| IVOD_ID |
17623 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17623 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T08:37:06+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T12:03:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:25:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528ea76b52104d1e2e9c135c52ee3446e49ab5b204f4a37948b9171d2cd03150e3ab5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議（事由：審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等7案。（僅詢答）） |
| 委員名稱 |
完整會議 |
| 委員發言時間 |
08:37:06 - 12:03:00 |
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1427.91 |
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1430.79 |
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請主任秘書報告出席委員人數 |
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1431.33 |
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1434.11 |
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報告委員會出席委員已足法定人數 |
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1434.73 |
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1436.17 |
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好 我們現在開始開會 |
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1436.17 |
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1439.37 |
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請議事人員宣讀上次的會議議事錄 |
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1463.43 |
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1466.47 |
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討論事項一 審查遺產及贈予稅法十二案 |
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1466.67 |
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1471.75 |
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一 本院委員吳秉若等十九人 委員郭育晴等十六人 委員林楚英等十六人 |
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1472.11 |
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1478.39 |
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委員王美慧等十七人 委員李坤城等十九人 委員郭國文等二十一人 分別擬具遺產及贈予稅法 |
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1478.59 |
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1480.35 |
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部分條文修正草案等六案 |
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1480.71 |
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1488.19 |
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二 本院委員賴慧元等十六人擬具遺產及贈予稅法第六條第十五條及第十七條之一條文修正草案 |
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1488.47 |
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1496.15 |
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三 本院委員王宏威等十八人 委員林思敏等十八人 分別擬具遺產及贈予稅法第十五條條文修正草案等二案 |
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1496.43 |
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1499.55 |
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四 本院委員張志倫等十七人擬具遺產 |
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1499.79 |
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1504.43 |
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遺產及贈予稅法第十五條及第十七條之一條文修正草案 |
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1504.75 |
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1512.47 |
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五 本院委員李彥秀等十六人擬具遺產及贈予稅法第十五條第十七條之一及第二十九條條文修正草案 |
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1512.83 |
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1519.43 |
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六 本院委員賴世寶等二十六人擬具遺產及贈予稅法第三十條及第四十一條條文修正草案案 |
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1519.95 |
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1522.19 |
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二 審查土地稅法九案 |
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1522.63 |
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1530.03 |
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一 本院委員李坤城等十八人 委員馬文君等二十人分別擬具土地稅法增訂第十七條之一條文草案等二案 |
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1530.39 |
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1535.35 |
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二 行政院含情審議 本院委員王美慧等十八人 委員傅坤琪等十九人 |
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1535.87 |
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1540.23 |
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委員李彥秀等十八人 委員林慶琦等十九人 委員賴世寶等四十一人 |
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1540.75 |
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1547.99 |
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委員鄭天才等十七人分別擬具土地稅法第十七條之一及第十九條條文修正草案等七案 |
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1548.31 |
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1552.59 |
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三 審查房屋稅條例九案 一 本院委員李坤城等十九人 |
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1553.26 |
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1558.74 |
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委員馬文君的二十一人分別擬具房屋稅條例增訂第五條之一條文草案等二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1559.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1567.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
二 行政院含情審議 本院委員王美慧等十九人 委員傅坤琪等十九人 委員李彥秀等十八人 委員林慶琦等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1568.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1576.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
委員賴世寶等四十一人 委員鄭天才等十七人分別擬具房屋稅條例第五條之一及第六條條文修正草案等七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1576.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1581.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
討論事項個案何必詢答 今晚由你楚嫣等五人說明提案要旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1582.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
財政部部長莊翠雲就行政院提案報告及回應委員提案後 既有委員林德福等十五人提出質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1590.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1595.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
軍經財政部部長及相關人員予以答覆 決議一說明及詢答完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1595.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1603.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
二 委員質詢未及答覆或請補充資訊 請相關部會於一周內以書面答覆 委員另要求起線者從其鎖定 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1603.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1607.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
三 討論事項一至三案均另責其繼續審查 宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1611.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
全國委員對於上次的一失誤有沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1615.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1617.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
好 我們一失誤確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1617.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1619.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
請醫生員宣讀今天的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1621.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1629.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
審查本院委員王世堅等十七人 委員呂玉琳等十六人 委員葉元芝等十七人 委員黃建豪等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1630.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
委員黃建豪等十九人 委員賴世寶等十八人 委員李燕秀等二十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1634.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1640.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
分別擬具海關進口稅責 部分稅責修正草案等七案 請詢答 宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1640.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1645.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
好 我們今天在現場的委員有吳秉瑞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1649.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1650.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
林德福委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1652.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1653.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1655.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1659.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
我們今天在現場的有我們財政部部長莊翠雲部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1661.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1663.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
我們財政部底下法治處的姚處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1665.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1671.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
國庫署的陳署長 副稅署的副署長李副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1672.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
國務署的彭署長歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1676.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1678.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
國有財產署的曾署長歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1682.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
我們財政資訊中心的張主任歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1683.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1687.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
我們經濟部產業發展署的周副署長歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1694.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
我們法務部法治司的副市長林副市長歡迎您 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1696.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1702.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
我們今天議程的安排是審查海關進口稅責部分稅責修正草案七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1703.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1708.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
請詢答 將先請提案的委員說明提案要旨之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1708.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1711.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
再請財政部長回應委員相關提案的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1711.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1715.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
請王世堅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1715.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1718.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
好 請呂玉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1718.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1721.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
請葉源之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1721.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1724.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
請黃建豪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1724.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1726.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
請賴氏堡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1739.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1741.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1742.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1748.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
那麼今天本席所提的就是針對因為ART |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1748.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1754.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
我們跟美國談的是要把汽車關稅要降為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1754.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1763.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
在這種情況之下其實對於國內的汽車業以及它的零主間業影響衝擊是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1763.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1768.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
那為了要想到這一部分的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1768.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1770.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
所以要特別提出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1770.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
竟然進口車都把它關稅降為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1774.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1777.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
那有關於關鍵零主間 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1777.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1781.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
比如說引擎以及相關的關鍵零主間 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1783.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
我們的關稅還是非常高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1786.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
那這一部分的關稅我們是不是應該降為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1786.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1789.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
否則的話那麼真的一時失啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
那把汽車進口汽車降為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1792.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1797.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
大概國內的汽車業以及它的零主間業 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1797.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1799.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
那大概會死一片 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1799.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1802.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
這個從業人員有人說八萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1802.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1804.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
有人說如果範圍再擴大的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1804.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
大概會有到幾十萬之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1807.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1811.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
這些我想就業市場也是我們應該去關心的一個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1812.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1817.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
所以在跟這個有關於這個跟美國談或者跟其他國家談 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1818.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1820.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
這個進口車要降關稅的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1821.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1823.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
我們是不是關鍵零主間 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1823.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1826.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
關鍵零主間也把它降為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1826.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1827.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
同步進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1827.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1831.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
如果因為現在美國的跟我們談到ART |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1831.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1832.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
還沒有生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1835.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
那還沒有生效之前就沒這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1835.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1837.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
但是一旦生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1841.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
那把進口的關稅美國進來的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1842.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1843.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
美國的車子 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1844.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
不管它什麼牌子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1846.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1848.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
日本的牌子 德國的牌子都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1848.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1849.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
那進來是零的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1850.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1853.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
我就主張我們的零主間 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1853.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1857.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
零主間的關稅應該同步調為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1857.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1860.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
這樣子的話才對國內廠商比較公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1860.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1863.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
那麼以上這個前進請各位指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1863.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1864.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
以支持 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1867.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
好 謝謝賴序寶委員的提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1867.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
接下來請財政部部長回應委員提案的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1878.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1881.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
主席 各位委員先進大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1881.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1884.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
今日貴委員會審查海關進口稅則 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1884.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1887.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
部分稅則修正草案總共有七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1887.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1890.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
那麼緊究上述的七案涉及調降小客車關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1890.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1893.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
以及汽車零主間關稅兩類 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1893.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1895.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
我們中整說明如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1895.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
有關調降小客車關稅部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1898.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1901.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
那麼小客車的關稅稅率是根據我國 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1901.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1905.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
九十一年加入世界貿易組織WTO的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1905.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1907.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
減讓承諾所訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1907.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1910.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
入會的第一年稅率調降到29% |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1910.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1914.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
並且分十年逐年調降到17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1916.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
稅率維持到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1916.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1919.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
那麼一百一十四年小客車的進口總值 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1919.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1922.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
大約是新台幣兩千一百零三億 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1922.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1925.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
關稅收入是三百六十八億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1925.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1927.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
經濟部在一百一十三年間 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1932.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
對於王委員事件等十七人所提的小客車關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1932.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1934.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
調降至免稅案 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1934.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
完成了稅市支出評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1937.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
調降關稅後 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1937.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1940 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
以國產車的產值不受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1940.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1943.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
而延續現況自然成長的樂觀情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
進口車市佔率完全替代國產車的悲觀情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1948.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1950.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
這兩種情境來做分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1952.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
採最終收入損失法 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1952.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1954.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
推估稅收的影響數 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1954.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1956.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
按照關稅貨物稅營業稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1956.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1957.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
營利事業所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1957.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1961.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
及個人綜合所得稅等各項稅目來計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1961.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1964.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
兩種情境均為稅收的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1964.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1971.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
稅收的競損大約是523億元到601億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1971.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1974.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
那麼經濟部在稅市支出評估報告中 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1974.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1975.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
也指出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1975.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1980.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
我國的車輛產業正值燃油車轉型為電動車的關鍵時刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1980.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1982.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
如果調降或取消關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1983.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1987.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
恐怕有國產車廠以及零主建廠關廠撤離之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1987.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1992.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
影響大約有847.74億元的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1992.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1996.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
以及8.26萬相關從業人員的生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1999.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
也會導致國產車的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1999.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
還有研發技術能量下滑 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2001.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2004.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
衝擊下世代車輛的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2004.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
綜合上述有關小客車關稅的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2008.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2009.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
除了對產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2009.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2013.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
以及相關從業人員的就業有重大影響之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2013.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2016.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
為了保留我國對外經貿談判的籌碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2017.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2018.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
現階段尚不宜推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2020.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2023.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
第二個有關調降汽車零主建的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2023.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2029.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
大院委員分別就9項汽車零主建調降到0%到8% |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2029.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2034.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
至於以及還有13項的零主建調降到免稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2034.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2039.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
包括了引擎汽缸化油氣噴油嘴離合器以及安全氣囊等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2039.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2043.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
那麼現行關稅的稅率為5%到17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2044.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2049.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
那上述的9項汽車零主建114年的進口總值有213億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2050.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2051.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
關稅收入是18億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2051.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2056.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
13項零主建114年的進口總值是135億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2056.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2058.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
關稅收入20億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2058.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2060.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
上述大院委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2060.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2063.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
經濟部也正在辦理稅師支出評估作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2064.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2066.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
那麼對於9項汽車零主建的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2066.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2069.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
經濟部的初步的估算 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2072.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
稅收淨損失大概8.26億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2072.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
針對13項汽車零主建的調降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2076.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
經濟部的初步的估算 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2077.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2081.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
大概預期進稅收約可增加0.52億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2081.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2085.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
但是稅師支出評估的作業還沒有完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2086.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2086.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2090.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
等到產業主管機關經濟部完成稅師支出評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2090.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2093.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
認為調降汽車零主建關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2093.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2096.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
對國內汽車產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2096.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2099.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
確屬必要可行以及有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2099.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2101.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
那麼本部會適時配合研議辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2101.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2102.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2102.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2104.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
敬請各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2104.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2106.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2108.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
謝謝我們部長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2108.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2110.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
對於提案內容的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2110.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2112.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
那我們現在開始尋答 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2112.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
先做以下的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2115.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
每位出席委員發言時間是8分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2115.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2117.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
必要時的延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2117.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2119.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
列席委員發言時間是4分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2119.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2122.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
我們今天上午10點截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2122.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2125.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
現在1登記的順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2125.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2128.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
請登記第一位的林德福委員開始質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2153.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2155.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2156.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
是不是我來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2157.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2159.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
這個財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2159.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2163.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
還有經濟部產業發展署的周副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2164.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2164.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2164.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
請周副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2172.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2173.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2173.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2173.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
部長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2173.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2174.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2174.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2177.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
因為受到中年油脂 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2177.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2179.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
這個問題的自來油影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2180.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2182.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
那很多的這些下游廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2183.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2185.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
他們要下架這些商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2185.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2186.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
這個牽連 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2187.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2188.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
非常的龐大 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2188.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2190.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
那有關於營利事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2190.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2194.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
這個商品這些報匯的損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2194.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2195.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
之類 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2195.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2197.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
目前財政部戶稅署 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2197.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2199.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
是否有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2199.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2201.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
相關的這些數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2201.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2203.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
委員報告對於有關營利事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2208.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
他的商品如果有報費損失的認列 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2208.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2209.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
大概有三種 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2209.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2212.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
一個就是會計師查核簽證報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2212.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2214.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
然後到時候再提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2214.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2216.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
然後再做核實認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2216.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2218.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
第二個就是由事業主管機關看著他 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2218.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2219.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
銷毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2219.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2221.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
然後他向事業主管機關拿到證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2221.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2223.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
到時候只要就可以核實認列 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2223.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2226.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
第三個就是他自行來做報備 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2226.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2227.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
那只要事實發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2227.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2229.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
30天以內都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2229.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2232.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
所以這上面這種方式都可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2232.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2233.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
向這個國稅局辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2233.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2235.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
那但是目前前面兩項 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2235.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2237.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
他是不需要向國稅局報備的 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2237.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2238.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
因此到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2239.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2241.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們的國稅局並沒有收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2242.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2245.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
有關相關產商提出來的相關資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2247.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
因為本行是希望說財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2247.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2248.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
對於這些受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2250.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
牽連的下游廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2252.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
要從寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2252.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2253.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
重塑 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2255.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
從簡的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2257.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
給予這些專業的一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2257.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2258.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
因為此次 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2259.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2260.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
中年油紙事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2260.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2262.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
一連串的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2262.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2264.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
就財政部目前 |
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2265.75 |
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你們掌握的狀況 |
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2265.91 |
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2269.71 |
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是否會對整體營利事業 |
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2269.87 |
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2270.75 |
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所得 |
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2271.15 |
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2272.15 |
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所得稅 |
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2272.47 |
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2273.23 |
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稅收 |
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2273.43 |
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2275.83 |
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造成顯著的這些稅損 |
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2276.69 |
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2279.01 |
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因為目前國稅局並沒有 |
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2279.01 |
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2281.65 |
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還沒有收到相關的具體的資料 |
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2281.85 |
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2283.93 |
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也就是說他必須在有關簽證的 |
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2285.57 |
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或者是經過主管機關的時候 |
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2285.57 |
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2287.05 |
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他可以在申報的時候 |
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2287.05 |
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2288.93 |
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也一併舉出證明文件 |
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2289.17 |
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2290.13 |
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那來報備的 |
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2290.49 |
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2291.65 |
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是主動來報備 |
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2292.53 |
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那目前並沒有 |
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2292.53 |
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2293.65 |
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那我相信我們 |
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2293.65 |
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2295.89 |
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國稅局在處理這個案子的時候 |
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2295.89 |
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2296.57 |
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一定是 |
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2297.57 |
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2298.65 |
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會核實 |
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2301.73 |
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而且會就協助廠商的一個立場 |
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2301.73 |
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2302.97 |
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來協助他們的 |
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2302.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2304.77 |
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我是希望說財政部 |
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2304.77 |
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2306.41 |
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你們要主動積極的 |
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2306.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2307.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
來發布 |
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2307.65 |
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2308.41 |
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因為 |
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2308.65 |
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2311.33 |
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受牽連的這些廠商太多太多了 |
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2312.45 |
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2314.49 |
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因為他下游以後很多 |
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2314.77 |
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2316.13 |
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你包括7-11啦 |
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2316.13 |
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2318.01 |
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包括很多那些 |
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2318.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2319.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
這個 |
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2319.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2322.19 |
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這些廠商啊 |
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2322.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2323.15 |
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幾乎啦 |
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2323.15 |
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2324.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
很多產品 |
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2324.27 |
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2326.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
都用到中聯的油 |
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2326.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2328.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
那些全部都要下架 |
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2328.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2330.11 |
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那下架當然會有 |
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2330.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2330.91 |
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會有影響 |
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2330.91 |
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2331.99 |
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會有衝擊啊 |
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2331.99 |
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2333.15 |
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會有損失啊 |
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2333.35 |
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2335.47 |
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啊你要是財政部你沒有公告 |
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2335.63 |
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2337.59 |
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你沒有去跟這些廠商 |
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2337.83 |
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2338.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
告知他們說 |
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2339.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2340.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
這個你可以來 |
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2340.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2341.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
要 |
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2341.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2342.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
等於是要 |
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2342.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2345.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
把它做一個程序上的廢掉 |
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2345.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2347.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
然後可以減稅等等 |
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2347.47 |
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2349.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
他們怎麼會主動積極的 |
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2349.79 |
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2351.51 |
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來知道這個事情 |
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2352.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2353.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
委員的建議 |
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2353.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2354.06 |
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我想您的建議 |
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2354.06 |
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2355.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我們會把他納入 |
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2355.06 |
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2356.46 |
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就是說對於這一次 |
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2357.78 |
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因為這個油品事件 |
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2357.78 |
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2360.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
而造成的相關的報廢水利 |
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2360.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
在申報營利事業所得稅的時候 |
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2362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2363.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
要怎麼樣認列損失 |
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2363.22 |
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2364.5 |
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我們來做一個宣導 |
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2364.5 |
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2365.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
你們一定要宣導啊 |
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2365.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2367.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
你要針對問題探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2367.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2368.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2369.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2370.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
然後來解決這個問題 |
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2370.94 |
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2372.5 |
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因為很多下游廠商 |
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2372.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2373.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
他莫名其妙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2375.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
受到這樣的衝擊影響 |
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2375.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2377.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
他也不會去伸張 |
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2377.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2379.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
但是你財政部要是有主動 |
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2380.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2381.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
積極的 |
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2381.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2382.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
來 |
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2382.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2384.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
這個發佈的話 |
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2384.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
那我相信他們一定會主動積極來申報 |
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2387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2389.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
但是一定要附和一些一定的程序 |
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2389.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2389.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
是的 |
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2389.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2391.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
我們會把這個部分 |
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2391.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2393.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
你不能我只知道抽稅 |
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2393.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
但是他們認列的損失 |
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2395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2397.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
因為他是很無辜的 |
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2398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2398.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
很多 |
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2399.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2400.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
這些 |
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2400.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2401.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
廠商是無辜的 |
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2401.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2403.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
那無辜他本身要有一套 |
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2404.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2404.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2405.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2406.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
這個 |
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2407.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2408.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
就是怎麼去核報 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2409.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2410.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
然後 |
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2410.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
減少他的損失 |
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2411.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2412.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
我是希望 |
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2412.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2414.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
財政部在最短時間裡面來發佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2414.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2415.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2417.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
我們這個部分會照委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2417.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2417.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
來 |
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2417.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2418.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
讓大家知道 |
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2418.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2420.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
就是說依照現行的規定 |
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2420.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2420.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
可以用什麼樣的方式來做 |
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2420.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2422.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
你最好在禮拜六以前就發佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2422.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2425.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
因為這個損失的廠商太多太多了 |
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2425.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
好 |
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2425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2426.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
謝謝 |
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2426.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2426.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
謝謝 |
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2426.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2427.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2427.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2429.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
因為國內智庫普遍看好 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2429.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2431.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
今年的整個經濟成長率 |
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2431.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2432.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
突破10% |
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2433.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2434.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
國花會六月 |
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2434.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
緊急對策的信號 |
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2436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2437.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
為 |
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2437.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2438.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
41分 |
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2438.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2441.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
那紅燈顯示景氣熱絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2441.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2442.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
此外 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2442.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2443.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2444.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
採購經理人指數 |
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2445.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2447.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
60.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2448.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2449.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
也還處於 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2449.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2450.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
擴張的階段 |
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2450.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2451.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
但外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2451.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2454.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
外界認為中東整個局勢有 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2454.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2456.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
高度不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2456.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2459.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
是下半年全球經濟的展望 |
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2459.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2460.83 |
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不可忽視的隱憂 |
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2461.51 |
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2462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
昨天 |
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2462.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
台灣的股市重挫 |
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2464.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2466.15 |
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2000年30點 |
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2466.31 |
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2467.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
收在 |
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2467.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2468.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
4萬1603點 |
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2468.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2469.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2469.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2471.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
財政部對於未來景氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2472.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2473.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
那個部長你有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2475.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
委員報告 |
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2476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
如同剛剛委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2478.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2479.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
我們的經濟的基本面 |
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2479.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2479.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2479.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2482.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
那我們的表現相當亮眼 |
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2482.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2483.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
對於經濟成長率 |
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2483.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2484.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
主總是公布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2484.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2486.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
大概預測今年是9.46 |
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2486.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
而國外還有國內的相關的一些智庫 |
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2489.28 |
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2490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
都認為台灣的經濟 |
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2490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2493 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
今年成長率會超過10% |
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2493.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2495.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
我們的出口還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2495.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
出口的數據以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2498 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2499.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
訂單都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2499.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2501.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
非常的亮麗這個成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2501.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2502.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
那我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2502.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2504.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
大家都會在這方面的努力 |
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2504.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2505.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
是 |
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2505.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2506.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2506.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2508.17 |
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股市這樣重挫 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2508.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2509.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
那你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2509.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2512.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
在整個尤其是國安基金是不是 |
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2512.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2513.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2514.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
有活進場的必要 |
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2515.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2515.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2516.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2517.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2517.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2519.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
當然股市的一個下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2519.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2520.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
有它的諸多因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2520.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2521.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
包括最近天 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2521.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2522.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
就美股也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2522.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2524.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
日股韓股都是下挫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2524.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
那同類股就主要是電子 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
跟半導體的一些下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2530.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
那我們在台股也是同類股的 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2530.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2531.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
只有這下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2532.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2533.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
那剛好也提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2533.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
就台灣的經濟面好 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2534.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2537.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
那經濟表現也相當亮眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2538.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2541.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
而且景氣的燈號也是連續紅燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2543.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
那麼對於台股的穩定是有幫助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2543.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2546.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
那當然您剛剛提到國安基金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2546.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2547.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
那國安基金的幕僚 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2547.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2550.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
我們還是持續會關注國際的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2550.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2551.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
還有台股的走勢 |
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2552.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2553.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
當然也要會觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2553.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2556.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
金管會有沒有提出相關的一些措施的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2557.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2559.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
那我想國安基金的進場 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2559.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2560.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
一定有它的一個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2560.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2562.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
而且必須要經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2562.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2564.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
國安基金委員會的決議才會進場 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2565.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2567.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
那目前國安基金的幕僚是持續的關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2567.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2569.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
有關股市的一些動向 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2569.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
以及相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2571.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
金管會如果有相關措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2573.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
它的一些成效 |
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2573.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2574.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
我們會按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2575.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2578.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
國安基金的條例來做觀察跟處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2578.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2579.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
這樣齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2579.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
根據媒體的報導 |
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2581.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2584.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
目前台灣整個市場國產車 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2584.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2585.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
占比差不多百分之五十一 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2585.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2587.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
約二十一萬輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2587.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2590.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
那二零二五年前三大進口來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2591.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
依序為日本百分之四十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2592.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2594.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
德國百分之二十六 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2595.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2596.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
與美國百分之六 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2596.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2600.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
那我請問我們財政部跟經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2601.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2604.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
那目前除了美方有明確要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2606.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
調降汽車關稅外 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2606.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2610.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
是我還沒有其他的國家或外國廠商會 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2610.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2613.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
主動要求調降我國汽車的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2614.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2615.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
部長有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2618.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
有關汽車的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2618.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2620.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
剛好我們在報告裡面提到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2620.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2623.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
我們加入WTO以後有關承諾的一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2623.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2625.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
那十七點五也維持到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2628.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
那我們跟台美在關稅談判的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2628.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2633.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
當然對於美方的進口車的關稅有一些協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2633.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2635.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
那對於其他國家的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2635.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2639.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
其實基本上關稅涉及到產業的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2639.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
那經濟部就非常重視也提出相關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2644.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
對於汽車產業要非常重 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2644.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2647.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
要注意這個如果全面下降的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2647.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2649.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
對汽車產業的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2649.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2651.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
那其他國家提出的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2651.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2652.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
未來其實可以作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2653.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2655.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
未來我們跟他們做相關談判的一些籌碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2656.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2657.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
我想這個是不是可以由經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2657.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2658.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
也再來做一些補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2658.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2659.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
那個經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2661.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2663.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
這個周副署長您有沒有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2664.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2665.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
產業部傳輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2671.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2672.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
整車進口關稅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2672.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2676.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
對於其他國家是不是也有一併調降的這樣的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2677.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
那其實是有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2677.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2679 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
外界非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2679.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
除了對美國以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2680.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2682.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
其他國家到底適不適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2682.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2685.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
例如說按照WTO的一些相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2685.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2687.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
是不是應該要併同適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
那經濟部的立場是 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
這一次台美關稅的協議是雙邊的協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2692.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2694.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
那僅適用在雙邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2695.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
那不適用在其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2696.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2697.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
那在WTO的規定裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2698.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2700.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
那裡面也有明確的提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2700.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
如果是屬於雙邊協議的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
是可以不適用到其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2704.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2707.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
因為那個很多立委提案說 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2707.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2709.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
希望降低整個汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2709.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2711.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
以及零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2711.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2712.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
進口的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2712.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2713.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
主要是減少民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2714.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2715.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
購車的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2715.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2719.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
更有助於未來CPTPP的談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2719.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2720.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
本席是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2722.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
海關進口稅則 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2722.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2725.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
減免汽車關稅完成立法後 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2726.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2727.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
財政部跟經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2727.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2730.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
要確保民眾購買汽車時 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2730.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2733.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
能夠享受到減稅的紅利 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2734.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2735.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2735.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2736.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2737.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
副署長你有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2738.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2741.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
是針對整車關稅降稅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2741.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2744.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
經濟部是認為在產業上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2744.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2745.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
在國家財政方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2745.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2747.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
還有包含雙邊協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2749.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
其實都會造成一些衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2749.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2751.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
那我們是認為現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2751.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2752.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
目前是暫時 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2752.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2754.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
不適合來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2754.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2757.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
相關的整車降稅的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2757.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2758.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
2758.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2759.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
那我請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
2759.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2761.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
根據經濟部掌握的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2761.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2763.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
我國汽車產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2763.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2766.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
這個年產值差不多五千億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2766.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2769.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
那工廠加速差不多有兩千七百家 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2769.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2772.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
受到美國關稅的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2772.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2773.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
美方要求我方 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2774.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2776.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
全面開放汽車市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2776.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2777.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
為了降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2778.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2780.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
對國內整個汽車產業的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2780.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2784.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
經濟部規劃了三十億元的專款 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2784.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2785.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2785.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2787.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
車型天下計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2787.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2788.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
預計協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2788.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2791.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
台灣這些汽車產業跨出內需 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2791.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2792.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
佈局全球 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2792.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2794.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
那車型天下計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
2795.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2797.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
出口專案由政府來補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2797.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2799.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
廠商一半的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2799.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2800.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
那我請問經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2801.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2803.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
到今年六月中旬公布後 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2803.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2806.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
目前有多少家廠商來申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2806.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2808.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
那三十億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2808.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2810.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
到底還剩多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2810.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2812.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
是不是你也做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2812.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2814.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
好跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2814.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2816.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
這個六月十五號我們公布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2816.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2818.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
車型天下的一個補助方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2818.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2820.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
那到八月底才截止 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2821.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
那到目前為止是有兩個案子來提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2824.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2827.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
所以這個提案之後還需要經過審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2827.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2830.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
才能確定最後的補助比例跟補助金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2830.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2833.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
那目前這三十億是還沒有支應出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2833.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2834.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
三十億還沒有支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2835.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2838.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
那我請問那個下年度會繼續編嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2838.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2842.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
這個是用韌性特別預算裡面匡列而度來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2842.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2845.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
我是希望說你們一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2845.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2848.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
就是針對這些確實有受到衝擊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2849.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
2851.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
要有一些支持他們的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
2852.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
2853.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
讓他們能夠永續 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
2853.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
2855.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
繼續能夠生存 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
2855.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
2858.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
那你也要定期跟我們財委會的委員來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
2859.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
2862.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
到底支用的情況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
2862.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
2864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
您到八月八月以後你們要來做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
2864.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
2868.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
好謝謝我們結束林德福委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
2868.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
2869.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
接下來請吳秉瑞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
2879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
2880.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
主席麻煩請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
2881.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
2882.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
2888.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
2889.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
2890.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
2893.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
是從去年的這個美國發布的對等關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
2894.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
2896.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
才開始引起的 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
2896.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
2899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
那後來因為被美國的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
2899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
2902.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
大法官宣告說這個對等關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
2902.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
2905.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
的課徵的時候是違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
2905.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
2907.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
所以現在還有一些在退還 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
2907.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
2909.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
那所以他們行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
2909.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
2912.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
美國行政機關就改用特別301對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
2912.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
2915.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
這個勞動的調查還有對於傾銷的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
2916.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
2918.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
所以就這個議題而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
2918.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
2920.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
你認為這個是不是跟美國談判之間的情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
2920.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
2921.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
有沒有變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
2923.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
2924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
2924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
2927.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
跟美國談判我們之前有所簽訂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
2927.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
2932.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
那在這一次美國的一個強迫勞動的調查301條款裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
2932.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
2934.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
那台灣是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
2934.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
2936.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
而且不疊加MFN |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
2936.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
2938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
而且還有2300 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
2938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
2941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
2231項產品是豁免 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
2941.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
2945.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
那這個部分其實跟當時談的一個比較好的一個結果是相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
2945.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
2946.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
那我想我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
2946.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
2951.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
台美談判也會持續的取得一個優惠的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
2951.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
2952.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
我相信相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
2952.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
2955.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
我現在的問題是你注意聽我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
2955.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
2958.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
我說我們這個車輛關稅的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
2958.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
2960.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
因為以前對等關稅的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
2960.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
2962.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
他要求我們要降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
2962.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
2965.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
那現在改成勞動條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
2965.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
2967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
301的調查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
2967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
2969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
美方還有做這樣的要求嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
2969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
2970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
這個狀況有沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
2970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
2972.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
我們談判的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
2972.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
2973.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
有沒有改變 |
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2973.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
2976.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
談判的基礎並沒有變動 |
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2976.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
2979.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
所以301條款對我們來說其實是相對優惠的 |
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2979.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
2981.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
301條款那個我有看新聞 |
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2981.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
2982.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
我了解 |
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2982.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
2985.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
我是意思說因為我們今天在談的是車子的車輛的關稅 |
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2985.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
2986.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
2986.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
2992.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
那因為這個議題開始遠深是因為我們跟美國之間為了這個對等關稅才引起的 |
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2992.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
2993.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
那所以政府很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
2993.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
2995.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
也都去做了談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
2995.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
2997.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
那談判的結果也都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
2997.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3000.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
可是現在談判的基礎已經從對等關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3000.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3001.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
變成特別301 |
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3001.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3003.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
尤其是勞動條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3003.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3005.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
這個改變上面的調查 |
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3005.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3007.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
那這個調查台灣沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3007.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3010.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
台灣基本上沒有特別去努力勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3010.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3012.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
除了極少數的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3012.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3015.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
是加班有沒有服務規範之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3015.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3016.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
其他人沒這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3016.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
那我的意思說那現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3019.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3022.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
這美國還在要求我們車輛的關稅要降嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3024.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3027.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
這個部分在談判的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3027.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3029.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
在301調查裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3029.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3031.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
我們是針對他的議題來提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3031.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3031.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3031.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3033.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
那ART已經簽了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3033.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3036.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
那未來如何在ART裡面所簽的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3036.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3037.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
如何來落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3037.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
這個部分之前行政院也提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
就一定要完成國內的相關的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3044.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
那至於美國在談判的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3044.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3047.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
有沒有再提出來這樣的一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3047.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3050.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
那我想這個是談判辦公室的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3050.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3051.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
所以你也不清楚就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3051.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3052.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3052.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3052.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3052.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3053.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
好那再來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3053.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3054.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
那如果是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3054.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3058.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
因為是對美國對等關稅開始一連串的衍生 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3058.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3061.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
那請問這個車輛降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3061.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3063.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
是針對美國的車呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3063.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3065.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
還是對全世界其他所有的車都是一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3065.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3068.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
當然在剛剛經濟部也說很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3068.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3069.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
在台美談判的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3069.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
那是對美國這是雙邊的一個談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
是對美國車進口就降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3077.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
那如果說海關進口稅則修正的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3077.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
是全面性的降 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3080.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
那是完全不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3080.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3081.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
所以今天的議題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3081.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3084.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
今天的議題是要動我們的國內法 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3084.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3085.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
去全面降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3085.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3085.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3085.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3089.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
所以跟你今天說要跟美國之間的這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3089.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3092.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
其實是沒有在完全一致的平台上 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3092.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3092.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
是不一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3092.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3094.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
因為台美是雙邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3094.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3095.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
只針對美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3095.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3097.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
其實美國車要來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3097.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3099.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
他的困擾還不只有關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3099.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3102.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
因為美國是要在美規做車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3102.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3105.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
台灣過去主要都是歐規車 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3105.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3107.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
所以美規跟歐規都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3107.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3110.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
這中間的差距事實上要做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3110.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
不然的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3114.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
美國的車子就算美國生產的車子 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3114.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3116.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
也很難這樣順利進到台灣來 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3116.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3118.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
又有其他非關稅壁壘 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3119.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3122.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
光是檢驗各方面都困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3122.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3124.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
那因為這個議題一直不確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3125.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
造成市場上的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3129.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
就是這一兩年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3131.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
車子的銷售情況都很不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3131.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3133.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
因為很多消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3133.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3135.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
他認為他再忍一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3135.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3136.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
他再等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3137.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3138.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
搞不好就降稅了 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3138.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3140.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
就可以省很多錢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3140.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3141.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
所以這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3141.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
變成是有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3143.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3145.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
為了想要省點錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3145.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3148.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
所以有一種消費遞延的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3148.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3149.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
部長你了解這種狀況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3150.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
沒有錯 委員說的確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3153.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
也就是說有持續這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3153.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3155.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
觀望的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3155.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3158.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
這個可以從我們的貨物稅跟特銷稅裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3158.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3159.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
好 那如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3159.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3161.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
這個事情我從去年就問到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3161.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3162.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
已經快要一年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3162.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3164.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
什麼時候才能夠定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3164.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3166.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
你不定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3166.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3168.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
這個狀況就沒辦法解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3168.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3169.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
還是你宣布說不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3169.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3171.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
你們要消費的就趕快消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3171.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3174.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
那這樣又變成欺騙國民的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3174.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3176.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
所以這個事情一直拖在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3177.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
對整個台灣的車界 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3180 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3181.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
是一件很不利的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3181.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3184.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
那個經濟部產發署的周副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3184.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3185.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
你也來幫忙回答這一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3186.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3188.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我的意思是這個一直不定 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3188.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3189.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
對台灣的車市 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3190.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3193.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
事實上是變成在銷售上有很大的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3194.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
是 跟委員報告確實如您所言 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3199.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
這個民眾觀望的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3199.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
在去年暑假以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3201.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
其實就很明顯的浮現 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3205.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
所以經濟部跟財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3205.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
在去年九月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3208.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
其實也透過大院的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3208.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
通過了貨物稅減稅的一個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3211.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
那目前整車汽車的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3217.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
新購汽車可以有五萬塊的減免貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3217.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
另外還有五萬的太舊換新減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3220.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
那個我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3220.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
因為那個是我們通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3223.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
我現在問你的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3223.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3224.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
我們針對問題好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3224.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3227.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
我說這個到底什麼時候才能定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3227.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3228.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
因為你一直不定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3228.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3229.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
這個狀況就會一直存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3229.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3232.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
是這個什麼ART的這個協議 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3232.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3235.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
因為涉及到美方他的法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3235.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
必須要做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
那目前我的了解是 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3240.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
還沒有完成調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3240.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3242.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
這個可能還是要回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3242.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
經貿談判辦公室那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3246.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
才有辦法知道最新的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3247.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3250.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
所以大家都是在憑空在等 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3250.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3252.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
人家一直問我 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3252.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3254.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
我也只能說還在談 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3254.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3255.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
不過跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3255.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3258.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
今年上半年這個整車 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3258.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3260.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
整車的這個不管是產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3260.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3261.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
或者是一個銷售的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3261.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
跟去年的同期比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
其實是有為福成長一到兩%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3266.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3267.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
一到兩% |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3267.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3270.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
問題是去年整個就衰退了不知道幾十% |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3270.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3273.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
去年應該是從四月份開始以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3273.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3274.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
開始衰退 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3274.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3275.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
對啊那衰退那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3275.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3277.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
今年跟去年比 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3277.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3279.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
你跟一個成績最差的年度比 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3279.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3280.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
然後還增加一兩%而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3280.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3282.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
所以其實很多人都在等 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3282.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3285.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
那大家也都在抱怨說 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3285.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3286.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
到底這個事情要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3286.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3288.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3287.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3288.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3288.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3290.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
我以前在縣政府服務的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3290.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3293.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
我們蘇貞昌縣長曾經說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3293.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3295.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
夾案也好 疑案也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3295.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3297.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
拖延案最不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3297.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3299.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
因為拖延就是不確定的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3300.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3302.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
好那先請你回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3302.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3304.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
再繼續問請教莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3304.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3306.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
這個因為美中貿易戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3306.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3308.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
對等關稅是從這邊來的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3308.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3310.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
其實我們台灣最大的課題是在避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3310.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3312.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
息產地嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3312.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3314.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
你那個時候在這邊講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3314.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
你要事前嚴防 事中嚴查 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
事後嚴罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3320.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
那請問你有做到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3320.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3322.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
確實我們海關在落實這個執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3322.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3324.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
而且我們也組成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3324.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
強查小組就是由各官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
官務長要率隊做強查的一個查 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3330.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
對高風險的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3330.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3332.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
我們要提高查的頻率 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3332.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3334.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
那也建立了違規太陽的資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3334.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3336.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
然後我們要做精準的打擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3336.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
都有做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
我跟你們報告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3342.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
我們報告查了三萬六千多筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3342.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3346.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
其中認為疑似違規轉運案件354筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3347.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3349.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
鬆開 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3348.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3350.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
啊這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3349.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3352.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
沒意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3351.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3353.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
財閥 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3374.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3376.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
也有罰到六十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3376.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3378.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
那你罰了最高六十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3378.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3380.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
那可就還有更低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3380.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3382.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
可能有罰兩萬塊錢三萬塊錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3382.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3384.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
如果是這樣的罰法 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3384.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3386.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
你這個叫做事後研罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3387.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3389.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
事後研罰就比我獲得的利益要小很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3390.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3392.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
那我當然會有一個誘因去違規啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3394.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3396.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
因為我改標 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3396.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3398.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
而且在自由貿易港區 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3398.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3400.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
我們本來就懷疑自由貿易港區 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3400.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3402.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
是最容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3402.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3404.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
因為沒有進到關內來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3404.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3406.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
沒有進到台灣來 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3406.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
所以在那個自由貿易港區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3410.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
改標是最方便的 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3410.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
只有你們到現在一年多了自由跟貿易港區 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3414.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
只有查獲兩件 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3414.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3416.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
所以你說你事中言查 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3416.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3418.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我很懷疑耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3421 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
委員報告這個數據其實也有些在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3424.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3426.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
19號也已經查到四萬多筆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3426.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3428.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
蘇美的貨物 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3428.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3430.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
查緝的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3430.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3432.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
移送的大概也有近399筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3432.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3434.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
那也查 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3434.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
裁處了231筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3438.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
那罰款大 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3438.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3440.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
5500 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3440.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
就多了31筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
剛剛我跟妳講200筆現在變成231筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3446.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
我們的嚴查以及他們的罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3446.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3448.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3448.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3450.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
應該也可以有二組作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3450.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3452.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
同時我們會對違規的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3452.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3454.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
建立資料庫其實會加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3454.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3456.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
他查得更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3456.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3458.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
我建議妳跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3458.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3460.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
經濟部橫向的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
委員為了要求嚴查這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3465.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
偽冒 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3465.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
洗禪地的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3469.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
那既然你們政策的宣示 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3469.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3471.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
事中要嚴查 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3471.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3473.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
事後要嚴罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3473.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3475.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
那所謂的嚴罰是什麼標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3475.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3477.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
是不是跟他們溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3477.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3479.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
嘴巴講得很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3479.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3481.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
結果落實的時候落實得很輕微 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3481.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3483.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
這個就是我們台灣目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3483.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3485.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
法令直擊上的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3485.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3487.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
各個地方各個層級的政府都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3488.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3490.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
明明關心說要去查場 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3491.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
查不查 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3495.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
查到了又怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3494.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3496.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
一樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3496.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3498.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
法令定了嚴格到執行面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3498.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3500.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
變得很輕忽啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3500.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3502.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
為了台灣我們大家要努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3502.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3504.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
我們台灣不會輕忽 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
謝謝我們結束吳秉瑞委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3509.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
接下來請賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3520.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3522.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3522.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3524.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
有請財政部的莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3524.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3526.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
還有經濟部產發署的周副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3534.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3536.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3536.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3538.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
兩位長官好 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3538.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3540.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
那現在Alt Art沒有生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3541.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3543.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3543.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
這個汽車進口汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
17.5叫回0 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3549.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
基本上就沒有這回事啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3549.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3551.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3552.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3554.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
財政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3554 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3560 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
目前來說當然還是依照我們海關進口稅則的稅率來克徵汽車關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3560 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3562 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
17.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3561.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
17.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3566.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3568.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
跟美國的Alt沒有生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3568.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3570.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
我們就一直維持不會降 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3570.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3572.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
這個稅率基本上是我們加入WTO以後承諾的一個稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
那如果跟台美談判的Alt的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
那剛剛也講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
它是屬於雙邊的一個協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
那所以只針對美車進口來做調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
所以這是雙邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
那至於汽車未來的關稅是否要調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
我們必須要全面的調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
必須要考慮國內的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
因為你本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
今天報告你把它講得像毒水猛獸說 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
哇這個數字快600 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3600.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
這個數字快600 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
這個數字快600億 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
數字800多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
這樣數字這麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
怎麼可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
你這是恐嚇老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3614.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3616.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
我們這個報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3616.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3618.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
除了這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3618.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3620.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
稅損的報告同時還要 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3620.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3622.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
考慮到這個國內汽車產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3622.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3624.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
好我跟妳講一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3625.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3627.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
先請那個中副處長講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3629.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3635.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
為了提升我們國內汽車產業的競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3637.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3639.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
整體的汽車進來有沒有降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3641.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3643.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
你知不知此關鍵領主稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3643.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3645.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
領主鍵都應該要降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3645.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3647.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
你可以看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3647.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
稅損只有8點多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3651.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
那麼13項的汽車領主鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3651.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3653.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
如果9項只有8點多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3653.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3655.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
如果針對13項 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3655.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3657.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
還要返還可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3657.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3659.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
你一定有的你可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3659.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3661.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
降關稅因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3661.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3663.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
車子的競爭力提高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3663.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3665.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
稅收還增加就是你們報告寫的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3665.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3667.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
副處長要講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3667.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3669.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3669.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
有關這個領主鍵降稅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3673.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
如果是屬於國內無產制的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3675.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3677.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
那這樣子從國外進來的領主鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3677.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3679.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
他降稅之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3679.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3681.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
對於國內車廠組裝的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3681.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3683.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
就會降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3683.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3685.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
自然就會讓他的消受量提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3685.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3687.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
那整車的這個消受量提高之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3687.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3689.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
對於他的這個領主鍵的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3689.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3691.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
其實也相對受益 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3691.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3693.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
所以按照我們稅評是OK |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3693.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3695.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
是會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3695.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3697.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
所以你支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3697.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3699.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
不管進口車有沒有降 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3699.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3701.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
我們領主關鍵領主鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3701.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3703.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
可以先降對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3703.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3705.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
但是整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3705.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3707.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
稅事支出評估的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3707.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3709.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
還在財政部的這個副評審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3709.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3711.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
從來沒有結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3711.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3713.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
所以還是要看到最後的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3714.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3716.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
你的報告寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3716.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3718.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
財政部長莊翠儀 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3718.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3720.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
你寫的13項 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3720.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3722.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
的氣車領主鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3724.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3726.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
調整關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3726.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3728.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
稅收增加0.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3728.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3730.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
報名就要去找我啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3730.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
同意吧就不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3732.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
我騎車現在因為還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
降關稅不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
因為美國那邊還沒搞定 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3738.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3740.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
但是我們領主鍵領13項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3740.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3742.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
先給他降為0 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3742.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3744.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
那不是好事嗎我的提案就是這個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3747.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3747.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3749.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
什麼時候可以最後出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3749.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3751.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
最後什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3751.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3753.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
什麼時候可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3753.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3755.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
什麼時候可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3755.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3757.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
什麼時候可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3761.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3763.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
多早時間副組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3763.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3765.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
兩個月內可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3765.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3767.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3767.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3769.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
因為我們7月22號收到財政部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3769.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3771.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
所以我們還需要一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3771.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3773.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
還多久嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3773.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3775.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
還多久嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3775.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3777.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
還多久是兩個月可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3777.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3779.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
我們盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
這個部長你的報告寫這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3785.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
13項 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3785.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
關鍵領主鍵如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3789.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
關稅降為0 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3789.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3791.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
稅收增加0.52億 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3792.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3794.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
你寫得這麼清楚就這麼好的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3794.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3796.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
報告就要去做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3796.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3798.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
好不好那個副組長求援吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3799.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3801.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3800.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3802.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
我請教一下那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3806.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
外界是廣播啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3806.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3808.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
為什麼官股要揭露國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3810 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3812 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
你說以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3812 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3814 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
我質詢你的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3814 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3816 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
你就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3816 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3818 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
這個因為它裡面啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3818 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3820 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
管理的亂七八糟啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3820 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3822 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
什麼裡面問題很大啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3822 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3824 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
什麼的問題很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3824 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3826 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
公司何其多 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3826 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3828 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
你為什麼偏偏什麼地方不介入就介入這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3827.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3829.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3828.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3830.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我對你一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3830.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3832.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
以後我們假設財政部及 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3832.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3834.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
法院公股 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3834.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3836.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
八大行庫要來是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3836.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3838.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
未來變成九大行庫有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3838.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3840.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
這個事情是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3842.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3844.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
當然按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3844.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3846.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
立法院的一個職權來做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3851.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3853.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
我們要去尊重立法院的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3853.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3855.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
以後就變成不是八大行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3855.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3857.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
是九大行庫喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3857.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3859.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
我們尊重立法院要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3859.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3861.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3861.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3863.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
可以來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3863.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3865.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
因為國務院管理法第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3865.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3867.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
訂得這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3867.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3869.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
死啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3869.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3871.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
什麼要來關股 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3871.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3873.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
什麼時候來 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3872.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3874.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
持股超過50% |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3874.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3876.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
它沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3875.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3877.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
政府此派公股代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3877.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3879.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
擔任董事長或總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3879.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3881.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3881.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3883.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
要求它就要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3883.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3885.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
國務院管理法第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3885.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3887.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
訂得這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3887.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3889.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
所以以後變成我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3889.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3891.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
泛公股八大行庫就能 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3891.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3893.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
改成九大行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3893.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3895.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
我這樣講沒有問題吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
3897.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
3899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
委員您已經把國務院管理法列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
3899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
3901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
立法院得要求嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
3901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
3903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
3903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
3905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
尊重立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
3905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
3907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
3907.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
3909.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
投石我就要問啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
3910.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
3912.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
完全問不出一個隨意人 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
3913.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
3915.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
這財政部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
3915.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
3917.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
你只有說問了我多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
3917.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
3919.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
3919.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
3921.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
我就拿多少洗翅 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
3921.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
3923.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
3922.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
3924.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
但是大家會想到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
3925.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
3927.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
應該是戰略性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
3929.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
3931.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
而且如果要清 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
3931.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
3933.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
因為它是一個最小的金庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
3934.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
3936.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
大家就會想到說你要推公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
3936.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
3938.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
你要病髒癮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
3938.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
3940.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
結果後來發現沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
3940.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
3942.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
後來發現說喔因為答案在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
3942.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
3944.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
機關槍框的存款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
3944.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
3946.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
主要圖利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
3946.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
3948.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
哪一個集團他們的代表人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
3948.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
3950.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
擔任副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
3950.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
3952.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
年薪上千萬以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
3954.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
3956.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
變成說變了啦半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
3956.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
3958.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
結果沒了病 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
3959.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
3961.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
只有做一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
3961.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
3963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
團隊特定集團啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
3964.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
3966.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
這個就圖利耐斯集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
3966.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
3968.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
就變這個樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
3968.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
3970.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
現在看到答案是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
3970.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
3972.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
大家看到看鬼不看魔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
3972.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
3974.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
答案顯開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
3973.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
3975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
答案顯開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
3975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
3977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
沒有什麼偽造的戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
3977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
3979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
什麼都沒有就是兩個字四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
3980.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
3982.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
圖或者六個字好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
3982.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
3984.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
圖利特定財團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
3984.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
3986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
把你的股份去押它 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
3986.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
3988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
給它當一個副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
3988.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
3990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
十四行上了董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
3990.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
3992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
現在總經理副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
3992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
3994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
坐領甘心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
3994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
3996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
就這樣子而已啊坐領高薪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
3996.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
3998.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
還不是甘心而已是高薪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4000.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
不想! |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4002.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4004.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
思想很難看勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4005.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4007.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
你做歷史罪人勒中部長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4007.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4009.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
你做這個決定很難看勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4010.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4012.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
委員齁我想在國票金這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4012.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4014.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4014.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
還有社會各界都有相關的一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4018.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
那當然我們知道各個意見被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4018.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4020.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
相關的一個原由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4020.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4022.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
我們也都了解齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4022.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4024.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
那我們已經一再說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4024.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4026.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
國票金控目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4026.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4028.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
關股指派的有關股權代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4028.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
他們首要的工作就是完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4030.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
他的公司治理提升疑運的一績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4032.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
那後續的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4034.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4036.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
那當然大家都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4036.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4038.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
沒有做沒有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
推翻我講的話嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4042.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
你要推翻我講的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4042.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4044.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
你今天背行要推翻我講的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4044.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
唉唉這是你的你沒有回答我啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
沒有戰略東西沒有就圖利而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
你圖利啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4054.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
圖利啊圖利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4054.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4056.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
我不懂圖利這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4056.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4058.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
不要隨便灌在我們同仁的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4058.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4060.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
隨便灌在我們同仁的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4060.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4062.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
你做這個是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4062.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4064.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
給他一個互董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4064.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
你有種就給他董事長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4066.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4068.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
你給他一個互董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4068.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4070.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
這是公司治理內部的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4070.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4072.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
什麼叫內部的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4072.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4074.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
董事都聽你的啊大家都了解啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4074.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4076.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4076.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4078.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
所以清清楚楚看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4078.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4080.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
你也沒有推動公共病 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4080.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4082.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
如果你繼續說來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4081.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4084 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
我揭露國廟禁設並彰影 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4085.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4087.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
給你長順 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4087.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4090.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
沒人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4089.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4091.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
現在看到的結果沒有這個東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4091.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4093.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
那我再問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4093.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4095.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
投信是何以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4095.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4097.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
所以今年底可以搞定是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4097.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4099.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
朝這個目標進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4099.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4101.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
確定目前已經在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4101.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4103.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
按照相關程序在做的當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4103.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4105.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
當然還要符合金管的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4105.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4107.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
我們也要除了董事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4107.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4109.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
先經過金管會要報金管會同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4109.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4111.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
所以目前來積極的進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4111.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4113.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
都按照程序在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4115.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4117.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
我需要給你個機會補考機會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4119.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
補考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4124.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
有關於國廟禁你們大拉的戒律之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4128.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
戒律之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
啊你的戰略目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4133.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
你可以寫個報告給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4133.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4135.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4157.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4159.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
謝謝我們結束賴世保委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4159.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4161.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
接下來請郭國文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4169.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4171.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
謝謝主席有請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4177.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4207.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4209.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
只有砍掉水舞跟遊樂設施而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4210.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4212.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
張國你去看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4212.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4214.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
導測荒謬的現象第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4215.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4217.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
我們去聽唱歌不用錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4217.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4219.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
自己唱歌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4219.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4221.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
卻要娛樂睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4221.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4223.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
還有在電影院看電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4223.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4225.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
不用睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4225.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4227.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
可是在MTV裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4227.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4229.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
看電影卻要睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4229.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4231.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
這非常的奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4231.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4233.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
更何況你去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4233.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4235.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
不論是這個密室逃脫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4235.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4237.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
還有包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4237.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4239.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
這個射擊場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4239.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4241.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
以至於包括這個高爾夫球 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4241.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4243.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
練習場高爾夫球我們會製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4243.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4245.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
不是因為地方有需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4245.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4247.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
不是禁止這個運動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4247.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4249.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
把這個運動當成奢侈睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4249.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
部長你有沒有聽我在講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
你還在一直講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
我以你這九項當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
我講白一點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4259.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
只有第八項那啪嗆鼓啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4259.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
賓果機啦電子遊樂機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
這一個才有娛樂睡的這個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4267.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
遇境於盡的這個意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4267.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4269.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
才在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4269.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4271.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
其他的啊都不應該啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4271.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4273.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
藉由各種公告的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4273.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4275.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
臨駕於立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4275.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4277.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
才會有的會知上啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4277.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4279.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
然後你去看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4279.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4281.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
總共我們好不容易情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4281.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4283.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
我們對社會講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4283.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4285.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
我們做娛樂睡的改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4285.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4287.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
結果哪有改到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4287.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4289.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
就只有改到我們當初只有講到的電影啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4289.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4291.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
跟職業表演而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4291.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4293.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
啊這個部分呢剩下的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4294.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4296.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
只有高爾夫球佔娛樂睡28% |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4296.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4298.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
72%的娛樂睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4298.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4300.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
既然是透過財政部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4300.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4302.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
公告情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4302.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4304.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
擴大解釋要徵收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4304.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4306.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
這根本欺騙社會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4307.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4309.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
啊財政部用行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4309.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4311.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
離駕於立法權嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4311.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4313.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
像這一種如果小鋼珠電子遊樂場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4313.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4315.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
我就比較沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4315.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4317.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
可是你其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4317.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4319.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
你還是照樣瞌睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4319.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4321.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
沒道理啊部長你到底有沒有清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4321.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4323.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
這種狀況啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4323.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4325.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
部長你欺騙國會欺騙社會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4325.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4327.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
沒有欺騙社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4327.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4329.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
怎麼沒有欺騙社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4329.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4331.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
娛樂睡法第二條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4331.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4333.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
有分三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4333.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4335.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
第一項裡面有三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4337.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4337.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
但是我們當初的最重要的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4341.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
是把舞廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4342.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
這照留下來瞌睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4346.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
高爾夫球是因為地方上的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4346.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4348.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
第三個部分讓你公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4348.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4350.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
你公告的權力那麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4350.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4352.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
你不應該符合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4352.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
你應該把它拿掉才對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4354.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
結果你保留了72% |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4356.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
的這個稅源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4358.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4360.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
公告的在我們的第二條第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4360.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4362.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
以前說娛樂睡是因為地方的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4362.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4364.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
所以地方很困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4364.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4366.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
當初我們在委員會討論就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4366.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4368.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
地方現在多了4000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4368.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4370.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
哪會有稅源的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4370.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4372.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
那理由已經不存在了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4372.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
委員我能說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4374.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4376.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
說啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4376.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4378.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
在第二條裡面的三項要課增 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4378.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4380.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
第一項裡面的第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4380.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4382.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
有提到財政部可以去公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4382.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4384.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
但是在同條文裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4384.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4386.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
的第三項也說我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4386.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4388.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
前面各款它也地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4388.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4390.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
也可以去授權去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4390.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4392.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
停徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4392.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4394.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
所以因此我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4394.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
第五條在做公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4396.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4398.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
地方政府怎麼可能停徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4398.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4400.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
我們上次在娛樂睡討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4400.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4402.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
項目都拿掉但是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4402.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4404.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
這個第三款那第三款由財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4404.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
來公告這個項目啊這項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4406.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4408.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
你還擴權啊你行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4408.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4410.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
你現在在立法權之上啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4410.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4412.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
也是請各地方政府提出意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4412.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4414.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
地方政府當然大家都不願意嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4414.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4416.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
我們上次最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4416.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4418.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
理由地方已經沒有所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4418.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4420.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
需要稅源的問題因為地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4420.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4422.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
的財政能力已經強化很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4422.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4424.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
所以說才會來檢討這個娛樂睡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4424.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4426.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
娛樂睡以前就不存在這個理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4426.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4428.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
所以當時第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4428.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4430.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
還是保留著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4430.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4432.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
給地方政府有一個授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4432.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4434.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4434.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4436.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
但是他是經財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4436.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4438.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
你是經過你財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4438.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4440.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
整理公告的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4440.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4442.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
是經過財政部整理公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4442.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4444.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
而且整理公告也是根據各地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4444.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4446.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
所建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4446.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4448.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
問地方政府誰要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4448.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4450.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
把稅源砍掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4450.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4452.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
我們在財政委員會最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4452.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4454.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
的部分就只有保留兩項而已嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4454.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4456.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
對啊那我想這個東西也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4456.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4458.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
這個公告內容也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4458.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4460.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
不能檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4460.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4462.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
我就是希望你檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4462.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4464.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
也可以適時的滾動檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4464.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4466.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
我真的要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4466.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4468.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
真的這是欺騙社會欺騙國會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4468.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4470.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
這個九項當中啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4470.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
我認為唯一有道理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4474.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
就是有第八項電子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4474.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4476.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
遊樂場而已啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4476.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4478.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
連高爾夫球練習場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4478.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4480.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
高爾夫球練習場高爾夫球之所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4480.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4482.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
我們要留下來睡醒是因為你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4482.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4484.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
我們要在地方的部分的財政考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4484.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4486.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
我們才放心捏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4487.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4489.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
不是嗎現在打高爾夫球 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4489.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4491.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
才超過一百萬人所以練習場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4491.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4493.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
而已耶你也在磕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4493.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4495.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
部長你既然已經說要回去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4495.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4497.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
那你就好好檢討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4497.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4499.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
一個月給本席一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4499.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4501.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
一個月一個月給本席一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4501.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4503.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4503.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4505.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
另外一個部分部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4505.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4507.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
我一樣要來檢討一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4507.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4509.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
統一發票上次你有答應本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4509.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4511.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
要重新檢討也是要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4515.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
也就是大獎下修小獎上修 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4518.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4520.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
你答應的很阿莎利喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4520.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4522.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4521.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4523.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
結果呢我們去問你們的稅務署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4523.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
稅務署說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4525.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
沒有時程規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4527.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
現在當然是稅務署新的署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4529.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
這條帳不應該算在他身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4533.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
不過他也要去面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4533.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4535.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
說沒有時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4535.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4537.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
好你去看喔馬上你們雲端發票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4537.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4539.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
一下子調成五百塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4542.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
你就有二十到四十萬組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4542.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4544.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
差那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4543.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
整個這個紙本的發票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4547.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
比例還高達三成三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4549.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
那三成三的人就不用調嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4553.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
今天你可以馬上兩百 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4553.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4555.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
改成五百 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4555.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4557.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
二十萬組變四十萬組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4557.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4559.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
那小獎上修的這個統一發票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4559.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4561.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
為什麼會遙遙無期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4561.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4563.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
那整個大獎下修的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4563.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4565.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
問也沒有時間表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4565.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4567.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4567.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4569.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
你要不要有一個具體的時間來回答本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4569.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4571.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4571.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4573.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
對整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4573.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4575.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
統一發票因應期待的民眾的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4576.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4578.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
好對委員的建議我們都很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4578.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4580.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
那目前已經在修正相關的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4580.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4582.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
那我們會盡快的提出來相關的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4582.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4584.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
可以跟本席的時間嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4584.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4586.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4586.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4588.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
上次說沒有時間表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4588.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4590.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
這是兩個多月的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4590.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4592.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
是我們是不是在給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4592.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4594.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4594.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4596.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4596.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4598.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
兩個月喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4598.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4600.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
好接下來還有一個很重要的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4602.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4604.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
這個部長現在AI時代的來臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4606.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
民間的朋友跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4610.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
宮古銀行在上次的數位轉型當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4612.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4614.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
落後民間的銀行大概15年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4615.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4617.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
國營銀行落後民間的這個銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4617.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4619.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
大概20年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4620.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4622.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
前面啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4621.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4623.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
來不及追後面又有第二波數位轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4623.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4625.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
AI又來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4626.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4628.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
你去看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
還不曉得在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4651.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4653.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
所以唯一宮古銀行現在比較強了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4653.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4655.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
是我們財經單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4655.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4657.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
給予授權的區塊鏈的金融服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4657.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4659.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
讓央行開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4659.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4661.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
要他們開辦黃金的RWA的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4661.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4663.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
這相對還有未來穩定幣的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4663.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4665.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
金管會授權給銀行的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4665.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4667.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
比較有空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4667.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4669.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
其他的我看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4670.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4671.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
很難耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4671.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4673.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4672.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4674.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
在你那裡有沒有決心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4676.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
前面輸了後面有沒有可能迎頭趕上啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4677.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4679.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
兩步做一步來達成啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4679.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4681.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4681.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4685.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
委員的督促宮古銀行要做這個數位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4685.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4687.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
然後跟時代的趨勢接軌上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4687.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4689.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
一直是我們督促宮古行庫在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4689.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4691.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4692.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4694.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
你們督促宮古銀行在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4694.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4696.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
我很想要知道你要怎麼督促 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4696.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4698.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4697.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4700.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4699.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4701.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
第二個人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4701.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4703.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
第三個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4703.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4705.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
第四個時程第五個研考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4705.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4707.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
有沒有可能列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4707.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4709.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
那什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4719.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4721.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4721.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4723.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
剛剛我講國營銀行更嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4723.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4725.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
不只財政部所屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4725.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4727.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
跟交通部所屬經濟部所屬很不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4727.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4729.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
我們擁有國營的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4729.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4731.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
現在是所有的部會當中最多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4731.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4733.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
三家國營銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4733.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4735.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
一家那個台九 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4735.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4737.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
現階段都變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4737.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4739.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
第一變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4739.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4741.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
人力銀行的跳板 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4741.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4743.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
人力訓練完以後就跑去民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4743.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4745.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
擁有宮古銀行或公家單位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4746.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4748.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
這個直立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4749.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
所有的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4751.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
給的這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4753.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4755.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
交通經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4755.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4757.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
還是屬於偏獨佔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4757.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4759.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
我們這些都是開放型的競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4760.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4762.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
所以相對的會更加的弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4762.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4764.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
以至於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4764.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4766.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
我們在一些市場的佔有率越來越低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4767.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4769.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
然後呢人員流失得越來越重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4769.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4771.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
本席直接建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4771.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4773.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
有沒有可能把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4773.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4775.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
國營銀行比照目前的宮古銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4775.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4777.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
四金二銀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4777.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4779.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
的薪酬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4779.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4781.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
進用獎金行銷盤性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4781.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4783.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
這樣處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4783.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4785.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
還有煙酒公司就比照中鋼台肥等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4785.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4787.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
由觀古主導的公司一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4787.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4789.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
來讓他有盤性經營的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4789.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4791.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
這兩個可能性有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4794.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4796.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
委員您很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4796.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4798.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
就是您剛剛講的金融銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4798.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4800.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
他是一個開放競爭的一個資源市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4800.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4802.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
那所以台土 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4802.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
台土尤其是台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
因為蘇銀他有政策的一些不同的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4808.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
那台土當然面臨這樣的一個情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4808.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4810.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4810.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4812.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
但是他就是國營他必須受國營 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4812.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4814.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
事業管理法的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4814.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4816.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
那因此他的薪資也會回到人種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4816.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4818.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
這個也就是一直在講我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4818.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4820.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
我們其實真的很期待他有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4820.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4822.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
可以不一樣的一個薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4822.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4824.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
然後我們也會持續的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4824.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4826.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
爭做這方面的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4826.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4828.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
對我就說你至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4828.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4830.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
在制度上做一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4830.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4832.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
有沒有鬆綁的哪些可能性可以比照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4832.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4834.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
市經二銀的這種可能性嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4834.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4836.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
是你一直在卡死說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4836.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4838.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
那個原來的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4838.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4840.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
有沒有可能調整或突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4840.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4842.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
的空間我們當然希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4842.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4844.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
吸引薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4844.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4846.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
而且要對他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4846.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4848.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
的晉升能夠突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4848.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4850.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
既有的一些所謂論資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4850.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4852.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
排輩等等的優秀人才要能夠留 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4852.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4854.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
你都知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4854.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4856.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
那為什麼都沒有突破呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4856.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4858.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
我們要不要想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4858.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4860.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
你還是要寫一份報告給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4860.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
你要怎麼突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4864.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
還有包括那個研究公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4864.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4866.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
兩邊一個是生產單位一個是服務單位啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4866.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4868.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4868.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4870.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
我們想一下辦法好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4870.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4872.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
這個問題不要大啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4872.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4874.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
我給你三個月啦好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4874.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4876.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
具體喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4876.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4878.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
具體的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4878.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4880.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4890.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4892.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
謝謝主席喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4892.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4894.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
有請那個我們財政部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4894.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4896.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4900.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4902.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4903.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4905.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4905.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4907.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
部長我想針對著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4907.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4909.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
這個301條款的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4909.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4911.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
跟台灣的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4911.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4913.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
的一個風險來跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4913.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4915.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
部長做一個探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4915.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4917.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4917.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4919.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
這個301條款的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4919.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4921.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
稅利已經出爐了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4921.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4923.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
那我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4923.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4925.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
台灣就是在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4925.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4927.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
強迫勞動這個項目裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4927.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4929.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4929.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4931.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
除了強迫勞動以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4931.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4933.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
台灣會不會還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4933.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4935.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
其他的理由被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4935.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4937.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
美國加徵關稅呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4937.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4939.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
那製造業這個產能過剩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4939.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4941.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
的調查什麼時候出爐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4942.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4944.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
製造業產能的調查什麼時候出爐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4944.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4946.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
這個還不算又要看美方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4946.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4948.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
美方最後的一個公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4948.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4950.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
那現在有關301 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4950.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4952.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
對301那個調款調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4952.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4954.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
的部分有關禁止強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4954.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4956.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
產品進口的這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4956.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4958.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
調查報告已經出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4958.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
而且我們獲得一個是相對優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
的一個稅率就是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4964.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
而且不疊加MFN |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4964.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4966.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
而且有2231 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4966.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4968.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
效產品是在獲名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4968.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
的範圍裡面那所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4971.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4973.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
這個部分其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4973.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4975.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
建築在我們原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4975.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4977.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
跟美方談的Art的一個基礎上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4977.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4979.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
我們提到一個相對的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4979.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4981.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
優惠的待遇那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4981.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4983.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
產能過剩這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4983.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4985.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
後續的調查我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4985.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4987.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
配合提供相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4987.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4989.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
的一些資料那未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4989.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4991.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
我想這個顯然就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4991.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4993.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4993.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4995.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
製造業的產能過剩這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4995.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4997.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
調查現在不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4997.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4999.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
那還有我們還沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4999.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5001.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
一個結構性產能過剩調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5001.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5003.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
的這個時程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5003.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5005.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
這一個在什麼時候公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5005.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5007.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5009.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5011.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
要看美方美方的進程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5011.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
我們這個部分不可能去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5015.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
我想部長我請問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5015.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5017.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
這個結構性產能的過剩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5017.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5019.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5019.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5021.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
這個調查我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5021.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5023.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
顯然很有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5023.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5025.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
機會我們的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5025.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5027.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
是不是會透過一些補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5027.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5029.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
的方式他這個調查內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5029.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5031.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
他有包含說你政府是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5031.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5033.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
透過補貼的方式融資的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5033.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5035.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
或是計劃經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5035.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5037.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
讓製造業在市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5037.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5039.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
條件不允許之下繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5039.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5041.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
生產可是在我們國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5041.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5043.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
對企業的一個護稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5043.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5045.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
優惠還有政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5045.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5047.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
的一個鼓勵融資方案裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5047.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
我們應該會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5049.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
繞在這個301條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5051.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
的調查範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5053.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5055.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5055.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5057.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
我想我們政府的各個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5057.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5061.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
都會為產業去爭取一個最好的一個待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5061.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5063.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
那也會在台美談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5063.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
已經取得的優惠條件上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
去做一些爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5071.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
我想這個是台美經貿談判辦公室一直在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5071.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5073.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
為什麼我會問你這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5073.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5076.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
就是說我們的政府不斷地就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5076.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5079.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
我們也不斷地在補貼產業啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5079.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
那看起來這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
我們沒有辦法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5083.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5085.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
自身一度外啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5085.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
所以我要問你的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5089.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
你覺得這個在後續上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5089.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5091.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
那個我們可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5091.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5093.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
面臨到什麼樣的一個挑戰啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5097.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5100.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
在這邊我們沒有辦法去預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5100.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5102.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
整個是在談判辦公室在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5102.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5104.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
跟美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5104.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5106.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
USTR在做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5106.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5107.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
以及協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5107.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5110.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
那我們也會配合提供相關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5110.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5113.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
為我們的產業爭取一個最好的一個待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5113.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5116.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
那至於剛剛委員提出了相關的一些細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5116.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5118.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
那未來我們要提供資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5118.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5120.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
或者是經濟部也需要提供相關資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5120.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5122.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
我們都會做充分的提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5123.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5128.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
好顯然問不到一個比較明確的一個面向啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5128.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5131.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
那部長在針對的貿易的防線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5131.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5133.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
我們延緩中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5133.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5137.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
就是中國獲得一個洗產地的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5137.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5139.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
那我們有提供獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5139.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5141.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
就是說在經濟部貿易署裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5141.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5143.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
我們時收華研是20% |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5143.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5146.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
每年的上限是180萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5146.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5149.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
那這個看起來財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5149.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5151.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
財政部條件比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5151.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5153.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
也是一樣20% |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5153.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5157.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
可是每案我們最高是到480萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5157.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5161.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
那這個現行的獎勵制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5161.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5164.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
這個捐給獎金的進額是20% |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5164.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5167.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
那每案到480萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5167.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5171.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
那貿易署時收的華研是20% |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5171.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5175.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
那其實就是說這個捐給的一個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5175.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5176.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
都是密件保存 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5176.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5178.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
禁止第三人的一個調驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5178.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5181.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
可是我們做了這麼努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5181.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5183.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
那你看我們不管是貿易署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5183.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5185.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
以裁罰的案件200件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5185.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5190.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
然後我們的裁罰總金額是4,643萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5190.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5193.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
那這個規定出爐以後查獲的案件數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5193.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5195.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
明顯有沒有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5195.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5197.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
那如果有成效的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5197.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5199.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
你是不是要再加強力道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5199.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5202.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
那我們是不是要更增加更多的一個誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5202.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5204.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
那如果成效不彰的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5204.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5207.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
是不是應該提高獎金的一個上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5208.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
那如果有成效不彰的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5208.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5210.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
我們是不是應該提高獎金的一個上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5209.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5210.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
部長你怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5210.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5211.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5211.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5215.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
大概我們因為實施強查的一個作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5215.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5218.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
所以幾乎都是我們主動去查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5218.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5220.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
當然檢舉的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5220.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5222.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
我們也訂了相關的獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5222.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5224.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
那在自由貿易港區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5224.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5226.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
是根據我們的財務罰鍰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5226.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5228.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
處理暫行條例裡面去做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5228.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5232.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
那另外在其他的是由貿易署去做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5232.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5234.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那金額的額度上當然有所不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5234.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
我想有關執行後的一些細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5237.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5240.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
是不是可以由我們署長來做補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5240.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5242.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
好 好 署長來請回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5242.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5245.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
署長我在這裡要特別跟你請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5245.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5248.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
就是說官務署可以不可以調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5248.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5250.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
就是獎金的一個上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5250.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5252.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
這個是有依據的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5252.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5254.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
如果我們的財務那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5254.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5257.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
懷疑處理的一個暫行條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5257.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5260.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
第三條的第二項跟第四條規定來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5260.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5264.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
可是這一部法律是在民國43年制定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5264.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5266.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
顯然已經超過70年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5266.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5270.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
你上一次修正的時候是20年前的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5270.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5276.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
那是不是應該進行這一部法律的一個通盤的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5276.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5277.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
那署長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5277.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5278.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
是 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5278.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5281.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
那個財務法緩條例是不是要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5281.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5285.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
那主要是看就是說如果是法緩的這個獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5285.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5287.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
它產生很大的一個效果的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5287.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5289.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
我們是可以來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5289.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5293.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
未來來修正這個財務法緩獎金的一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5293.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5296.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
但目前480萬來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5296.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5298.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
在最高額480萬枚案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5298.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5300.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
目前看起來是還夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5300.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5302.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
那主要剛剛部長也報告過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5302.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5306.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
目前在第一線上查獲的這些違規轉運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5306.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5310.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
幾乎都是海關自己主動依資權查獲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5310.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5312.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
目前我們提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5312.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5315.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
就是說相關的一個獎勵金的一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5315.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5318.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
只是鼓勵大家多來檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5318.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5321.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
來檢舉這些違規不法的一個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5321.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5322.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
那日後有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5322.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5324.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
我們有需要再調整的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5324.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5326.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
會朝這個方向來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5326.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5330.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
可是署長我們看到了衝刺了很多的一個水貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5330.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
那在我們官方的資料裡頭顯現的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5334.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5335.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
你現在告訴我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5335.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5339.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
這個華款的這個華金的一個制度面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5339.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5343.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
其實480萬的一個檢舉獎金是夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5343.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5346.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
可是為什麼普遍我們存在的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5346.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5352.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
你看有這麼多人這個抽的這個電子煙都是水貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5354.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5359.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
甚至就是說有很多的一個日用品的一個水貨衝刺在市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5360.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5362.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
那你要怎麼回答我這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5362.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5365.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
你告訴我說這個執行面是不錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5366.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5370.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
可是顯然跟我們現實的一個市場環境是不太一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5370.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5372.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
你看你進到那個電器行的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5372.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5376.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
他會問你說你要買水貨還是買公司貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5376.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5380.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
他們都是這樣子回那個先跟你這樣子招攬生意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5380.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5382.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
水貨比較便宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5382.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5385.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
可是水貨就是沒有售後服務沒有保固 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5390.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
是跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5390.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5392.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
海關依職權強查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5392.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5395.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
以及說鼓勵民眾來檢舉不法的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5395.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5397.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
我們雙軌都會進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5397.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5400.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
而且我們非常鼓勵民眾來檢舉不法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5400.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5404.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
那如果說真的有這個檢舉獎金不夠的問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5404.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5407.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
我們會檢討來適度做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5407.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5409.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
所以你看嘛你要修正了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5409.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
好 署長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5410.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
來 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5411.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5413.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
那個再請教你一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5413.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5415.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
虛擬資產專華通過了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5415.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5419.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
台灣的虛擬市場一下子變得很熱門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5419.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5423.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
許多外國的業者都陸續到台灣來開闊市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5423.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5428.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
那這個營業稅法跟不上新興商業的一個模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5428.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5431.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
我們台灣會不會變為一個避稅的天堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5431.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5432.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
你看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5432.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5438.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
那在未來就是說我們的這個TAS |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5438.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5444.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
他要攜手這個BIGO啟動金融機構數位資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5444.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5446.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
實務的一個轉型的論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5447.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5450.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
這個我們都看到了國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5450.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5453.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
國外的一個境外的一個電商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5453.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5456.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
他已經要來銷售電子業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5456.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5458.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
那你怎麼課稅他呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5458.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5461.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
他是自然人還是法人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5461.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5466.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
這個顯然是說好像是我們沒有一個好的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5466.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5470.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
我們好像是在協助他們在逃稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5471.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
委員對於有關虛擬資產的一個課稅議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5480.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
其實在金管會在研擬這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5480.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
財政部也都已參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5485.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
那虛擬資產它裡面未來它要如何課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5485.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5489.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
我們會依照現行的營業稅法還有所得稅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5489.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5490.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
來做課徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5490.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
那要按照它的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5494.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
譬如說是發行的或是買賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5494.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5495.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
以及它的定性是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5495.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5497.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
其實我們都有做過研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5497.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5499.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
那對於它這樣的一個態樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5499.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
那依照現行的稅法是足以來做課徵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
也就是說現行的稅法有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5509.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
那這樣的一個態樣它如何套到法律裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5509.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
其實是有試用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
它有很多課稅的一個灰色的地帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5513.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
灰色的地帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5513.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
我現在在講的就是這個灰色的地帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
到底有多少外國的業者來台落地招募那個客戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5521.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
你有沒有掌握到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5521.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
這些業者是不是算是見外的電商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
其實你是要脅迫他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5526.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5530.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
用你各種的一個方式讓他在台灣落地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5530.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5533.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
我們才有辦法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5535.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5536.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
扣到稅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5536.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5538.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
這個其實是重點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5540.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5541.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5541.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5542.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5542.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5544.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
謝謝我們結束賴慧如委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5544.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5546.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
接下來請林黛樺委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5550.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5551.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
好 有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5551.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5554.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
觀務署署長彭英偉彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5556.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5557.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5562.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
是 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5567.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
署長 在將近三個月前我針對EZ位有第一次的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5567.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5571.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
今天我在進行第二次的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5571.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5573.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5573.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5576.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
我在這個EZ位當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5576.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
人民是不是有這個預先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5582.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
透過跨境網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5582.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5585.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
跨境這個採購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5585.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5587.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
網購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5587.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5591.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
那我們的EZ位能不能做到事先的告知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5591.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5594.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
我買了這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5594.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5597.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
是不是會觸及相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5597.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5600.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
這個檢疫的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5600.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5603.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
或者是相關衛福部當中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5603.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5605.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
衛生的相關的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5605.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5608.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
這個我希望能夠有一個事先知情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5608.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
好 那我不知道你們現在有的進度如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5612.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
跟委員回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5612.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5614.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
上次委員質詢之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5614.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5616.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
我們觀務署立即做兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5616.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
因為在邊境管制上有一些輸出規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5622.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
或者是說要許可的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5622.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5624.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
這些都是屬於邊境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5624.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
其他的一個輸出主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
我們所謂的簽審機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5632.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
他的規定我們立即跟這些機關聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5632.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5634.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
請他們照委員的意思說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5634.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5636.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
需要提醒民眾的這些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5636.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5638.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
都跟我們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5638.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5642.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
第二件事情我們做了就跟觀望網路公司這邊來聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5642.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5644.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
就是說我們日後要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5644.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5645.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
依委員的這個指示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5645.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
我們要提醒民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5648.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
就是說你在買什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5648.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5649.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
東西的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5649.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5651.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
需要有一個提示的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5651.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
這邊目前兩院我們都已經在處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5659.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
那簽審機關那邊有回覆我們大概兩百七十幾項的一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5659.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5661.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
那以後會提醒民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5661.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5665.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
好來那你認為EC為你們給 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5667.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5669.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
這個觀望網路公司啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5669.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5670.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5671.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5675.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
Easyway這樣的通關便利程序是不是屬於你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5675.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5679.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
財政部下的這個通關的程序呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5679.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5680.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
法定程序呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5681.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5683.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
跟委員回報就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5683.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5688.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
我們的通關程序指的是說跟海關遞送報單等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5688.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5694.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
跟這個民眾要不要委託報關行去處理報關的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5694.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5696.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
我們是一向認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5696.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5701.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
前就是說民眾跟報關行之間的一個委任關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5701.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5703.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
並不是我們的通關一個行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5703.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5708.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
好所以你認為Easyway這件事情對人民的收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5708.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5711.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
不管是對報關業者對承攬業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5711.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5715.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
以及他們這些業者轉嫁給我所有的消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5715.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5717.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
這些都是民間的跟你沒有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5717.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5719.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
好那本席要質疑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5719.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5722.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
第一個你為了給Easyway這樣的通關便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5722.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5726.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
你今年二月的時候修改法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5726.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
讓他要求大家這個要做這個網路的這個網購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
一律要用這個Easyway |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
因為現在沒有按下Easyway委任確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5738.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
你的網購是不能進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5738.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
誰民間哪一個這個資訊業者可以有這樣的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
你政府給他一個附權了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
那第二個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
你們這個API的借接這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
誰有能力可以有API的借接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
你們給給關貿我公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5759.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
那你一般的民間的資訊公司可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5759.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5761.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
沒有你也沒給他這個權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5762.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5764.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
好所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5764.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5768.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
既然我沒有按下我就不能通關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5768.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5770.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
哇這知識體大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5770.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5772.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
是你們授權給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5772.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5774.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
所以Easyway你還認定他是民間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5775.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5777.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
這我本席不能認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5777.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5779.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
好那為什麼我不能認同的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5779.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5781.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
因為他現在亂收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5782.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5784.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
他現在收了兩筆喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5784.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5786.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
雖然你說這都不是消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5786.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5790.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
可是你不管對報關業者成難業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5790.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5794.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
全部轉嫁給這個這個我們的消費者喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5794.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5796.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
第一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5796.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5798.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
我夠了這個物品之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5798.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5800.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
我就必須有一個確認費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5800.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5802.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
每件就是3.5塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5802.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5804.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
你對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5804.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5807.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
你是對報關行你也對這個成難業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5807.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5809.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
不管你對這個業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5809.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5812.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
我們就俗稱這個這個這個報關的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5812.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5814.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
3.5塊每一件3.5塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5814.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5817.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
所以呢這個就是轉嫁給我消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5817.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5820.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
第二筆現在的業者好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5820.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
你們也先溯源的確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5822.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5824.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
溯源的確認費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5824.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5826.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
希望在你發貨的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5826.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5828.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
你這些什麼亞馬遜啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5828.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5832.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
或者這些國外的這些網路平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5832.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
其實你們都已經跟光茂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
光茂這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
光茂網路公司都已經接接了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5840.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
API接接了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5840.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
所以呢你們這些報稅的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5844.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
或者成難業者呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5844.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5846.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
你如果呢要用這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5846.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5848.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
這種溯源的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5848.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5850.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
這個服務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5850.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5852.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
你都要交給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5852.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5854.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
這個光茂公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5854.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5856.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
一個月2500 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5856.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5858.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
以後你要我確認的每一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5858.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5860.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
我加收每一件0.8塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
所以這是兩筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
一個叫做確認費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我買了這一部分之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
你要跟這些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
報稅的相關的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
要收一筆確認費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
再來API的溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
的服務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
服務費又分兩筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
一個每個月給他給光茂公司2500 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
再來確認費你只要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
經過你這邊服務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
再來加一筆0.8塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
哇然後這些全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
我給我所有消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
你知道這量體多大嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
署長你這應該知道每一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
你就用今天2026你給我2025年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
我們透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
網購的報關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5904.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
有多少件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5904.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5906.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
目前快遞貨物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5906.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5908.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
檢疫報單是6000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5908.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
多萬件那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5910.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
這個就是說民眾用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5912.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
EZ未來申報的大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5914.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
7成左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5916.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5918.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
6000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5918.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5920.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
甚至你有高達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5920.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5922.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
一年1億件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5922.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5924.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
所以幾乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5924.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5926.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
不管你6000萬或是我了解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5926.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5928.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
甚至有高達到1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5928.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5930.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
的這樣的一個紀錄不管好就用6000 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5930.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5932.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
萬就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5932 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5934 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
你知道這樣的轉嫁費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5934 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5936 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
剛才那一筆的轉嫁費用幾乎每一個業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5936 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5938 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
好不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5938 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5940 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
報關或每一個業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5940 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5942 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
大概一個月都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5942 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5944 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
送給光茂公司一台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5944 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5946 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
Benz |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5945.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5947.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
那這些費用都是誰繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5947.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5949.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
都是這些業者繳不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5949.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5951.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
都是我所有的消費者繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5952.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5954.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
這樣你還認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5954.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5956.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
光茂網路公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5956.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5958.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
他的EZ未來的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5958.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
不是你官方法定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5962.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
這個通關嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5964.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5966.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
組長你還說不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5966.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5968.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
這樣的費用可以他這樣亂收嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5970.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5972.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
所以我這邊強力要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5972.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5974.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
把這個權利收回政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5974.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5976.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
正式的編預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5976.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5978.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
你憑什麼把你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5978.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5980.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
這個通關的便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5980.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
因為科技進步嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
你外包給光茂公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5986.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
然後光茂公司可以這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5986.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
我的費用我自己定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5988.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
全部交換給我業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5990.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
你還用工具你還修法咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5994.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
你修的法可多了耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5994.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5996.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
你收過所有的通關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5996.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5998.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
系統你修了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5998.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
海關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6002.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
航運的空運的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6002.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6004.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
兩個法的這個快遞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6004.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6006.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
相關的辦法耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6007.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
還有海關稅則相關你都修耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6011.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
這樣還不是公權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6012.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6014.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
所以組長你認不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6015.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6017.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
跟委員回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6017.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6019.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
要不要檢討收回我官方自己做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
你就算要委託給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6023.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
那也可以是在官方委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6025.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
我正式的跟他簽約 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6027.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
我正式的編預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
裡面的費用我當然要管啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6031.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6033.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
組長那麼認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6033.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6035.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
要不要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6035.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6037.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
有關於說這十多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6037.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
這樣採取的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6039.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
要改當然這是一個重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6041.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6043.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
政策的一個變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6043.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6045.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
如同剛剛委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6045.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6047.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
所以你看我我的生命 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6047.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6049.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
白白白白的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6049.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6051.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
多收了多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6051.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6053.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
繳了多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6053.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6055.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
十多年來我多繳了多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6055.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6057.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
給光茂公司賺幣賺爆了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6057.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6059.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
那我想那個光茂公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6059.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6061.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
提出的這些一些服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6061.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6063.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
以及加值的一個服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6063.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6065.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
這些收費當然光茂公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6065.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6067.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
那邊都有付出相當的一個成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6067.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6069.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
的確如委員剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6069.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6071.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
目前有兩筆費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6071.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6073.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
一個是查詢的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6073.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6075.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
一個是確認的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6075.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6077.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
那我們都有找光茂公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6077.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6079.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
以及相關的業者來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6079.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6081.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
做談業者也提這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6081.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6083.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
是蠻久的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6083.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6085.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
強力要求EZ會收為公有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6085.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6087.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
那包括費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6087.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6089.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
包括溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6089.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6091.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
我在還沒有發貨前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6091.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6093.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
我訂了一個包裹我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6093.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6095.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
這個網路平台的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6095.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6097.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
他要發貨之前我就先確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6097.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6099.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
因為這個在API |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6099.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6101.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
光茂公司早就有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6102.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6104.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
只是你還把這個費用轉嫁給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6104.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6106.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
給消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6106.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6108.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6108.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6110.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
這也不是說光茂唯一可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6110.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6112.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
只要是通關網路公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6112.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6114.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
提出將EZ會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6114.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6116.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
通關系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6116.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6118.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
回歸公共基礎建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6118.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6120.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6120.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6122.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
這個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6122.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6124.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
一個月內提供出來好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6124.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6126.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
跟委員報告這是重大政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6126.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6128.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
你要多久 當然重大政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6128.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6130.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
要不然我幹嘛站在這邊執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6130.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6132.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
我全台灣所有網購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6132.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6134.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
你一個月六千萬見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6134.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6136.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
六千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6136.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6138.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
因為是重大政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6138.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6140.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
黃金十年嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6140.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6142.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
好三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6142.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6144.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
那我再講一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6144.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6146.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
在我的辦公室陳情的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6146.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6148.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
因為他買了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6148.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6150.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6150.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6152.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
買了一個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6152.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6154.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
這個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6154.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6156.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
洗牙的一個鑽石 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6156.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6158.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
的一個零件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6158.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6160.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
他本來要買這個洗牙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6160.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6162.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
機器我按錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6162.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6164.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
然後我進來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6164.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6166.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
並沒有顯示他會涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6166.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6168.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
這個相關的醫療器材法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6168.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6170.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
所以他進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6170.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6172.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
然後這個媽媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6172.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6174.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
他就突然接到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6174.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6176.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
我這個違反醫療相關器材法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6176.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6178.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
所以他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6178.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6180.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
經過了快三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6180.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6182.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
我剛才來的時候我還跟他打個電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6182.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6184.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
講的話哭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6184.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6186.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
他說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6186.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6188.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
這個報關函跟他講的好嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6188.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6190.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
我才誤買了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6190.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6192.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
這個刷牙機誤買成什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6192.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6194.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
鑽石的什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6194.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6196.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
這個零件的配件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6196.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6198.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6198.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6200.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
我竟然要被罰六萬到一百萬以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6200.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6202.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
他才花多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6202.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6204.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
八千塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6204.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
然後還跟他講說你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6208.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
因為違反你沒有拿出你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6208.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6210.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
醫療器材的許可證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6210.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
所以你會有減掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
可能還有刑罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
他整個人都快崩潰了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6216.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6218.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
所以你那種法規的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6218.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
那種預知 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6220.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
包括這個收費的轉嫁給我民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6224.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
是極端不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6224.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6226.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
三個月希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6226.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
希望能夠做一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6230.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6229.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6231.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
好謝謝我們結束林黛樺委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6231.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6233.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
接下來請劉淑冰委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6248.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6250.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
那有請莊部長還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6252.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6254.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
經濟部產發署的副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6254.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6256.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
請莊部長請周副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6261.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6263.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6263.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6265.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
好 部長好喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6264.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6266.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
未來我們看到台北的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6266.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6268.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
這個ART關稅協定如果上路的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6268.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6270.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
每次的汽車跟零組織的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6270.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6272.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
是必要面臨的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6272.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6274.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
那也是開啟今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6274.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6276.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
再有這個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6276.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6278.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
那我們以整個車子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6278.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6280.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
關稅來看的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6281.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6283.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
看到的一個數據是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6283.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6285.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
就是在歐盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6285.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6287.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
是10%韓國是8% |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6287.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6289.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
日本是0% |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6289.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6291.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
台灣還維持著17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6293.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6295.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6295.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6297.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
那我們可以看到剛才財政部已經也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6297.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6299.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
報告當中也寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6299.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6301.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
最重要財政部反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
關稅的降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
最重要的原因是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6308.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
每年會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6308.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6310.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
經濟部裡面呈現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6310.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6312.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
每年會有五六百億的稅損 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6312.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6314.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
還會把國產車的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6314.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6316.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
市長會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6316.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6318.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
八萬人的就業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6318.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6320.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
可是我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6320.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6322.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6321.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6323.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
經濟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6323.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6325.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
他也說到在因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6325.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6327.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
如果要生效的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6327.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6329.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
提到說依照中研院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6329.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6331.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
這樣的一個估計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6331.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6333.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
他說每車 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6333.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6335.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
如果降低為零的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6335.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6337.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
關稅降低為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6337.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6339.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
他最重要的產值對國內影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6339.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6341.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
只有1.94% |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6341.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6343.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
金融是40億而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6343.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
然後還提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6347.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
國內也有30億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6347.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6349.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
來做因應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6349.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6351.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
那比較強調的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6351.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6353.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
因為國外的一個 |
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高價的車 |
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跟平價的國產車事實上是有區隔的 |
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6359.76 |
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事實上我們國內的出口 |
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6359.76 |
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6361.76 |
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國產車出口還有競爭力 |
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那這邊就要提到是 |
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請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
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6367.33 |
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產發署的副署長來提供一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6367.33 |
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我國的出口到 |
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6369.33 |
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6371.33 |
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去年的出口到 |
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6371.33 |
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6373.33 |
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外國的情況是怎麼樣 |
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6373.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6375.33 |
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國家跟他的產值是怎麼樣 |
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6376.76 |
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6378.76 |
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是 跟委員報告 我們國內 |
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6378.76 |
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6380.76 |
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國內國產車廠的部分 |
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6380.76 |
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6382.76 |
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還是以內銷為主 大概接近 |
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6384.76 |
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84% 那外銷的部分 |
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6386.76 |
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只有16% |
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6388.76 |
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那以中東地區為主 |
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我這邊看到的資料是 |
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比如說是中東為主 |
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那他的這個外銷的出口 |
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是可以達到說6億美元 |
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大概有這麼多 |
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那我們可以看到如果是6億美元的情況 |
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6402.76 |
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他在17.5%的國內的 |
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就是國際的這個進口 |
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6406.76 |
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關稅 |
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6408.76 |
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外國車的進口關稅 |
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6408.76 |
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6410.76 |
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是17.5%的話 我們都還有這個競爭力 |
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那就可以吃到 |
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就可以發現到一個問題是 |
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6415.7 |
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6417.7 |
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這樣的一個情況之下 |
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6419.7 |
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最高的那個稅收到5、6百億 |
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6419.7 |
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6421.7 |
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其實最重要是墊高了我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6421.7 |
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6423.7 |
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進口車的買主他們的 |
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6425.7 |
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一個購買的 |
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6425.7 |
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6427.7 |
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一個價格 這樣的情況之下 |
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6427.7 |
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6429.7 |
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還合理嗎 |
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6430 |
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6432 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6432.88 |
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6434.88 |
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委員 我們提到就是 |
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6436.88 |
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關稅這個事情 第一個我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
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就是說17.5%是我們 |
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6438.88 |
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6440.88 |
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當時加入世貿組織的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
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6442.88 |
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的承諾訂定 |
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6444.88 |
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那第二個 跟台美之間的談判 |
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6444.88 |
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6446.88 |
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美車進口未來是零關稅 |
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6448.88 |
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這是雙邊的一個貿易談判 |
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6450.88 |
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的結果 所以只適用在 |
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6450.88 |
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6452.88 |
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美車進口 那至於其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
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6454.88 |
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進口的關稅當然是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
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6456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
我們目前的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6456.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6458.88 |
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但是部長我要跟你講 |
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6460.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
如果我要調降的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6460.88 |
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6462.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
這個部分除了稅損之外 |
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6462.88 |
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6464.88 |
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還有要考慮國內汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
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6466.88 |
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產業的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6466.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6468.88 |
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對 可是部長請你注意聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6468.88 |
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6470.88 |
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部長我現在的問題是要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6470.88 |
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6472.88 |
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因為我聽過了 我要跟你講的是 |
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6472.88 |
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6474.88 |
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17.5%的這個情況 |
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6474.88 |
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6476.88 |
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之下 我們國內市場還維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6476.88 |
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6478.88 |
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5乘1的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6478.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
市場率 這表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6482.88 |
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我們在國內市場因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6482.88 |
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6484.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
有高價車跟低價車的一個區別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6484.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6486.88 |
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所以還是會有51%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6486.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6488.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
這個差別在這 而且是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6488.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
我們還有可以到國外的這個出口的這個強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
所以在 可是問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6492.88 |
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6494.88 |
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你這個500、600億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6494.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6496.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
稅收基本上是以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6498.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6500.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
轉嫁到我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6500.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6502.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
進口車的買主身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6502.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6504.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
這才是最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6504.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6506.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
所以說 如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6506.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6508.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
適度的調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6508.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6510.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
是合理的 雖然有美國跟其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6510.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6512.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
因為最重要的競爭可能是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6512.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6514.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
美國車 日本車跟美國車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6514.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6516.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
的這個競爭當中 他們自由行的另外一個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6516.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6518.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
可是本身的高價車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6518.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6520.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
跟低價車 國內產車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6520.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
國內的車子就有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6524.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
差異性 你如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6524.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6526.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
這樣子就是凸顯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6526.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6528.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
財政部就是把那500、600億的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6528.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6530.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
直接是轉嫁到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6530.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6532.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
我們的消費者的買進口車的人的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6532.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6534.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6534.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6536.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
你不考慮要去做適度的調降嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6536.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6538.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
這才是最重要的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6540.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6542.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
部長你的回答呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6542.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6544.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
我的回答就是跟如同剛剛一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6544.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6546.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
除了稅損之外還要考慮國內汽車產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6546.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6548.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
還有我們的從業人口的生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6548.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6550.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
對 可是 |
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6550.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6552.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
部長你剛才都沒有聽到清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6552.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6554.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
不是只有稅損 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6554.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6556.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6556.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6558.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
沒有錯 但是問題是我剛才講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6558.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6560.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
經濟部這邊他有提出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6560.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6562.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
部長他提出來的 以美國的部分來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6562.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
他們事實上的影響 |
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6564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6566.73 |
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就只有1.2% |
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| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6568.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
的影響率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6568.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6570.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
就是說1.94%的汽車產值的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6570.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6572.73 |
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就只有影響到1.94% |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6572.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6574.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
以美國這邊來講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6574.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
那其他部分就讓他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6578.73 |
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歐美跟歐洲日本跟台灣 |
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跟日本來做 |
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歐洲日本跟美國來做競爭 |
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這部分我想 |
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我想要凸顯這個問題就是 |
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台灣的財政部這邊 |
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並沒有真正把這樣的落實 |
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去保護到我們 |
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購買進口車 |
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購買進口車 |
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的買主上面的他們這個利益 |
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即使是在 |
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包括國內的這個 |
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這個業者他們 |
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其實他們現在都還有競爭力的 |
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至少在出口外面是非常有競爭力的 |
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我要提供的是這一點 |
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另外的部分我們可以看到的是 |
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還有如果是要幫忙的 |
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國內的國產車有競爭力的話 |
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更重要的是要 |
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讓他在 |
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他的進口上面的關鍵 |
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零組件應該要 |
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6626.48 |
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讓他具備有 |
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更好的一個效果所以 |
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6630.48 |
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我們這次包括各個版本的 |
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修法當中就提到的是說 |
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6634.48 |
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關鍵零組件的一個進口 |
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的稅率應該是要 |
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6636.48 |
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6638.48 |
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降低的那財政部的態度是怎麼樣 |
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6640.29 |
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國內沒有產制的零組件 |
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他進口的話 |
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6646.29 |
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這個關稅是不是要調降 |
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6648.29 |
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目前經濟部正在做稅事支出評估的報告當中 |
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經濟部是支持的嗎 |
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還在這個過程當中 |
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6655.69 |
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經濟部是支持的嗎 |
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6658.7 |
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跟委員報告我們目前正在做稅事支出評估當中 |
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6660.49 |
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我看到的是 |
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6664.49 |
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要等到最後的數字定案 |
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但是那個數字定案我看到的是說 |
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6668.49 |
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其實 |
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6669.75 |
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有些部分他有些稅損 |
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但是事實上他還可能要增加的是 |
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有這個效果在 |
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6675.75 |
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如果他降低的時候包括的是他 |
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有的產值的部分會增加 |
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是吧 |
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6681.75 |
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如果無產制的關鍵零組件進口 |
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6683.75 |
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的這個關稅能夠調降的話 |
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對於整車 |
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6687.75 |
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整車的這個銷售會是 |
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6689.75 |
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提高那對於國內相關 |
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6691.75 |
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的零組件的產業也是會有一些 |
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正面的效應 |
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6695.75 |
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我知道你要有程序這樣出來沒有錯 |
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我們就看到繼續把這個程序刨完 |
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6699.75 |
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另外第三個問題是針對說 |
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6701.75 |
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重型的機車 |
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這部分我們看到 |
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在過去的這個大型 |
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6707.75 |
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重機的這個銷售量 |
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6707.75 |
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6709.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
暴跌整體去拖累到大型機車 |
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6711.75 |
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的銷售量到26.5% |
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6713.75 |
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那台灣的這個高關稅 |
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6713.75 |
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6715.75 |
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他阻擋了這個外國 |
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6717.75 |
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車廠 |
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6719.75 |
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尤其是他的關稅是 |
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6721.75 |
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達到18到20%比進口 |
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的小客車的17.5%還要 |
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6723.75 |
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6725.75 |
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高 |
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6725.75 |
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6727.75 |
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加上貨物稅還有銀碎稅 |
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6727.75 |
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6729.75 |
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等於說就是我們平常的 |
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6729.75 |
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6731.75 |
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重型機車的價格 |
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6731.75 |
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6733.75 |
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硬生生的就比國外的 |
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6733.75 |
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6735.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
這個價格要貴到1.5倍到2倍 |
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6735.75 |
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6737.75 |
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那在這個情況是不是 |
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6737.75 |
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6739.75 |
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因為國內這部分根本就沒有 |
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6739.75 |
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6741.75 |
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這個產業 |
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6741.75 |
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6743.75 |
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那是不是應該既然國內 |
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6743.75 |
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6745.75 |
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做不出來這部分是不是應該 |
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6745.75 |
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6747.75 |
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把進口大型重機的這個關稅 |
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6747.75 |
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6749.75 |
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應該要把它降低 |
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6749.75 |
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6751.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
不然你在保護誰因為我們並沒有 |
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6751.75 |
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6753.75 |
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這個產業 |
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6754.67 |
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6756.67 |
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跟委員報告我們國內還是有機車 |
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6756.67 |
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6758.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
業者在生產重型機車 |
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6759.38 |
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6761.38 |
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那這個產值是多少 |
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6761.29 |
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6763.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
可是這是整車的部分 |
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6763.29 |
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6765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
跟委員報告目前我手上沒有 |
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6765.29 |
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6767.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
數據我可以提供給您 |
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6767.29 |
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6769.29 |
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好這部分我們看到的是 |
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6769.29 |
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6771.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
如果 |
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6770.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6772.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
你本身的這個產值如果不夠大的話 |
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6772.84 |
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6774.84 |
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你這個保護的部分而且加上說 |
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6774.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6776.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
那個關稅的部分如果降低的話其實 |
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6776.84 |
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6778.84 |
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會形成一種競爭的部分 |
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6778.84 |
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6780.84 |
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那這部分就請 |
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6780.84 |
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6782.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
經濟部就再給市委本期 |
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6782.84 |
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6784.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
一個報告好不好關稅 |
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6786.84 |
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的部分重型機車還包括 |
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6786.84 |
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6788.84 |
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的是在剛才的前面的 |
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6789.97 |
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6791.97 |
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關於 |
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6791.12 |
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6793.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
在汽車的部分的整車的部分 |
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6793.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6795.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
到底到底影響如果是開放的話 |
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6795.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6797.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
因為 |
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6796.35 |
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6798.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
看起來經濟部長跟財政部還是有個不一樣的機車 |
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6798.35 |
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6800.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
跟委員報告喔 |
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6800.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6802.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
剛才您所提到我們經濟部公部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6802.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6804.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
所提到的這個對美 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
整車進口關稅調降以後這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6809.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
美制車的影響是不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6809.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6811.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
2%嘛那是最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6811.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6813.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
是因為我們只對於美制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6813.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6815.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
車開放降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6815.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6817.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
但是今天的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6817.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6819.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
是對於全球 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6819.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6821.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
所有國家的進口的車輛都降稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6821.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6823.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
所以這兩個情境是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6823.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6825.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
的那也就是剛才提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6825.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6827.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
對全球降稅的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6827.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6829.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
那會有提到這個所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6829.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6831.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
整體的稅損會到五六百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6831.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6833.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
我們好我剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6833.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6835.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
有提出來的就是希望維持到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6835.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6837.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
17.5%的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6837.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6839.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
本土的國產車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6839.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6841.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
本身跟高價的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6841.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6843.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
歐美車或是日本車還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6843.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6845.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
有些差異性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6845.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6847.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
這個部分也跟委員說明喔那其實進口車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6847.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6849.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
其實現在不見得全部都高價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6849.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6851.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
其實他們也有一些CC數比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6851.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6853.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
小的一些進口車那他的價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6853.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6855.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
跟國內的國產車價格其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6855.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6857.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
也是相當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6857.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6859.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
所以在整個如果進口車的這個關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6859.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6861.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
調降的話會衝擊到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6861.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6863.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
國產車的一些相關的銷量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6863.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6865.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
那你就把這個部分應該更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6865.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6867.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
因為現在看起來你的部分是在於說稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6867.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6869.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
還有包括是國內的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6869.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
可是國內部分請你把高價車跟低價車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
的差異性拉出來好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6873.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
讓本席可以知道讓全國的民眾知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6877.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
不然都以為說這17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6877.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6879.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
包括還有其他貨物稅的部分加起來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6879.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6881.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
高到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6881.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6883.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
如果說本來一部車是100 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6883.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6885.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
塊錢的話至少到160 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6885.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6887.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
幾塊的這樣的一個價格差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6887.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6889.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
跟其他日本跟韓國這是感覺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6889.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6891.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
非常大的差異性而且看起來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6891.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6893.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
如果你們有很充足的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6893.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6895.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
是要去對於國內的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6895.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
是做區別的待遇的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6897.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
那真的是對消費者是非常不公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6899.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6901.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
好就是在提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6901.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6903.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
本席知道在提供說明好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6904.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
謝謝我們結束劉樹斌委員的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6908.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
接下來請李坤城委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
謝謝主席我們請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6923.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6925.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6927.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6929.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6928.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6930.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
部長好這個請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6930.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6934.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
在今年二月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6934.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6936.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
那我們的這個行政院的副院長曾立軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6936.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
他有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6940.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
我們已經跟美方達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6940.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6942.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
這個台美對等貿易協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6942.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6944.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
那時候也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6944.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6946.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
這個未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6946.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6948.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6950.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6952.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
美規車的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6952.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6954.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
美規的小客車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6954.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6956.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
關稅會降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6956.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6958.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
那保留中小貨車為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6958.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6960.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
隨定的關稅以確保軍工韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6960.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6962.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
所以在二月份的時候就有提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6962.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6964.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
這個未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6964.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6966.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
美規的小客車關稅會降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6966.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6968.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
那可是他有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6968.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6970.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
因為這個還要等到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6970.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6972.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6972.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6974.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
美方完成301調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6974.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6976.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
因為後來這個對等關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6976.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6978.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
就有問題了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6978.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
那到了五月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6982.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
副院長又講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6982.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6984.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
這個要等到美方完成301的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6984.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6986.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6986.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6988.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
確定說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6988.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6990.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
那時候講說大概七月底啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6990.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6992.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
那台美的這個ART確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6992.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6994.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
取得優惠待遇之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6994.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6996.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
連同MOU送國會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6996.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6998.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
然後呢那時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6998.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
這個汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
美國進口汽車就零關稅在ART生效後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7004.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
然後呢配合相關的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7004.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7006.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
那就是我們今天講這個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7006.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7008.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
這個法相關的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7008.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7010.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
有可能會到零啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7010.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7012.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
然後呢這個是到七月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7012.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7014.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
然後這個在前幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7014.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7016.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
就上個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7016.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7018.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
這是7月24號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7018.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7020.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
那這個美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7020.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7022.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
按照這個301條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7022.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7024.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
他也調查出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7024.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7026.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
那台灣是獲得10% |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7026.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7028.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
而且不疊加MFN |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7028.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7030.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
台灣享有豁免的清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7030.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7032.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
那在這個豁免清單裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7032.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7034.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
這個因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7034.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7036.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
在他們調查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7036.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7038.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
這個有拿到了10% |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7038.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7040.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
而且不疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7040.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7042.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
MFN的這個優惠的稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7042.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7044.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
這個我們台灣的汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7044.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7046.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
工具機等這些傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7046.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7048.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
這些稅率呢是比日本韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7048.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7050.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
都還要好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7050.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7052.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
那既然呢這個談判是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7052.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7054.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
這個有給就有拿嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7054.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7056.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7056.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7058.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
我們拿到了這個10%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7058.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7060.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
這個優惠的一個匯率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7060.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7062.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
在這個汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7062.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7064.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
等等之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7064.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7066.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
那是不是呢我們也要有一個對等的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7066.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7068.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
至少在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7068.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7070.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
汽車的這個零組件的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7070.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7072.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
我們的關稅也要把它調成零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7075.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7077.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
委員我想這個部分是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7077.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7079.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
我們分開來談就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7079.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7081.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
我們跟美方之間簽了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7081.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7083.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
是我們雙邊之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7083.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7085.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
談判的一個協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7085.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7087.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
那當時的他是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7087.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7089.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
美方的這個所謂的一個貿易法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7089.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7091.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
的一個法源一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7091.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7093.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
那這個就所謂的國際緊急經濟權利法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7093.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7095.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
但是阿一帕這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7095.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7097.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
在最高法院他們已經判定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7097.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7099.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
就是說是有違不能做這個工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7099.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7101.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
那所以後來就開始用122條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7101.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7103.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
課10%的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7103.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7105.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
那12條款的臨時的課徵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7105.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7107.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
在7月24號戒止以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7107.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7109.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
那接下來就是301調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7109.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7111.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
出來了也就是所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7111.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7113.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
禁止強迫勞動產品進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7113.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7115.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
這個調查出來台灣是獲得了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7115.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7117.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
10%的稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7117.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7119.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
而且不停加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7119.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7121.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
汽車零組件這個細項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7121.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7123.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
有沒有含汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7123.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7125.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
這是我們出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7125.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7127.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
出口的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7126.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7128.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
有阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7128.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7130.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
另外我們還有2000多項的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7130.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7132.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
的豁免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7132.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7134.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
這個所謂的10%那是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7134.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7136.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
出美到美國去的有含汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7136.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7138.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
有沒有10%的部分項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7139.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7141.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7141.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7143.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
有沒有含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7143.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
這是我們出美的這個部分汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7147.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7149.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
出美的汽車零組件是適用在232條款裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7149.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7151.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
目前是15%不疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7151.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7153.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
15%不疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7153.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7155.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
那所以這個不是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7159.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
10%是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7159.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7161.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
不是不在這個適用範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7161.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7163.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
所以我們目前還是15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7163.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7165.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
對 15%不疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7165.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7167.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
不是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7167.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7169.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
所以這是10%裡面沒有含這個汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7169.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7171.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
汽車零組件還是維持在15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7171.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7173.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
232條款以外的都不適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7173.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7175.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
所以汽車零組件的關稅就是15%了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7175.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7177.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
所以汽車零組件的關稅就是15%了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7177.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7179.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
所以汽車零組件的關稅就是15%了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7180.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7182.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
然後呢這個關稅15%還會再做任何的改變嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7182.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7184.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
會跟這個美國的301的調查會有任何的改變嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7184.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7186.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
會跟這個美國的301的調查會有任何的改變嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7188.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7190.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
我的理解應該就是在232的範疇內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7190.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7192.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
我的理解應該就是在232的範疇內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7192.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7194.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
那其實那就更簡單啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7194.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7196.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
就是因為本來要等到這個301的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7196.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7198.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
因為它有分是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7198.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7200.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
禁止強迫勞動的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7200.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7202.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
還有一個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7202.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7204.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
另外一個還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7204.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
產能過剩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7208.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
這兩個確定之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7208.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7210.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
我本來以為說這兩個確定之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7210.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
最後才確定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
我們蘇美這個汽車零組件的這個關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
是不是就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7218.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
10%結果現在就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7218.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7220.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
用232的這個條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7220.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7222.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
就是15%就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7222.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
那更簡單啦那我請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7226.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
那所以確定這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7226.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7228.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
拿到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7228.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7230.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
其實一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7230.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7232.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
在台麥就是說我們拿到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7232.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7234.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
那我們一樣相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7234.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7236.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
對等的我們要給這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7236.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7238.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
這個美國進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7238.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7240.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
這些汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7240.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7242.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
我們是不是也要相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7242.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
要把它減少要降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
對那當然這個最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7248.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
就要到ART生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7248.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7250.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
對啊就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7250.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
最後要送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7254.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
對不對所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7254.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7256.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
我們拿到15%輸入到美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7256.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
然後美國輸進來的汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
最後也是到零嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7260.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7262.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
目前談判的結果是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7262.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7264.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
對啊那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7264.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7266.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
我們今天在談這個海關稅者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7266.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7268.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
進口稅者這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7268.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
最後有關汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7272.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
就是會到零的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7272.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7274.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
這個修的海關進口稅者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7274.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7276.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
各委員所提的版本是全面性的降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7276.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7278.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7278.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7280.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
我們是雙邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7280.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
是針對美國進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7284.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
針對美國進口的這些零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7284.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7286.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7286.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7288.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
最後會降到零了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7288.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7290.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
最後就ART生效以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7290.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
我們隨同配合修正海關進口稅者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7294.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7294.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7296.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
那今天這個委員所提的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7296.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
並不是根據它出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7300.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
我先不管委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7300.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7302.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
現在是台美在談判嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7302.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7304.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
那我們跟他們談判是對等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7304.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7306.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
互惠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7306.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
那所以呢我們拿到15%過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7310.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
然後他們進來是零%就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7311.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7313.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
那談判目前ART裡面是這樣的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7313.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7315.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
對啊所以這個有關汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7315.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7317.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7317.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7319.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
我講汽車零組件最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7319.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7321.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
如果ART、MOU立法院都同意了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7321.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7323.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
生效了最後關稅就會降到零了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7323.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7325.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
那是指美國進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7325.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7327.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
對是指美國進口的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7327.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7329.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
是指美國進口的嘛因為我們現在是跟美國談嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7329.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7331.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
我現在都講美國的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7331.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7333.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
因為等一下講到這個美國車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7333.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7335.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
關稅要降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7335.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7337.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
我也是講美國車的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7337.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7339.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
我也是講美國製造的車啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7338.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7340.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
好那這個確定了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7340.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7342.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
那我接下來就問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7342.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7344.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
那現在就是大家更關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7344.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
就是美國車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
美國車進來最後關稅失稅也降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7351.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7353.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
在ART談判是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7353.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7355.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
是對美國車對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7355.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7357.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
小客車小客車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7357.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7359.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
只要是這個車子是在美國製造的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7359.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7361.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
就算他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7361.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7363.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
比如說他是雙B好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7363.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7365.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
或是說日本比較高檔的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7365.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7367.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
他只要是在美國製造的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7366.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7368.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
在美國製造的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7368.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7370.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
這個這個這個這個賣到台灣來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7370.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7372.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
他的關稅就是零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7372.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7374.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
17.5%的關稅就是變成零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7374.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7376.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
是是美國製造對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7376.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7378.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
這就確定嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7378.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7380.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
那所以大家就在期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7380.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
或是在等待就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7384.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
這個美國的進口車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7384.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7386.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
賣到台灣的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7386.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
到零那就是確定的事情嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7390.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7392.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
對如果等到ART經過大院審議以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7392.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7394.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
就是確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7394.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7396.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
那這個ART是現在已經算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7398.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7400.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
在行政的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7400.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7402.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
作業的部分的話算是完成了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7402.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7404.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
還是還要再等美方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7403.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7405.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
等美方因為他的做法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7405.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7407.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
因為他原來的那個REPA |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7407.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7409.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
並不對最高法院接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7409.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7411.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7411.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7413.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
要等美方的什麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7413.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7415.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
一個作業完成呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7415.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7417.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
美方完成這個法律的一個依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7417.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7419.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7419.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7421.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
那我們有掌握大概是什麼時間嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7421.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7423.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
這個目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7423.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7425.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
美國行政院的OTN |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7425.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7427.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
持續跟美國保持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7427.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7429.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
密切的一個溝通跟暢通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7429.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7431.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
我想這個部分他們都有所掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7431.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7433.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
也會繼續的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7433.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7435.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
那所以年底有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7435.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7437.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
年底有可能談判完成嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7437.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7439.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
這個部分在時程上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7439.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7441.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
不是我方可以做確定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7441.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7443.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7443.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7445.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
那現在有遇到什麼樣的一個阻礙嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7445.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7447.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
還是就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7447.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7449.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
反正就是談判需要花一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7449.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
這個是行政院OTN |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7453.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
那邊是在做處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7453.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
那經濟部這邊有掌握到什麼訊息嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7456.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7458.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
報告委員沒有 我這邊沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7458.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7460.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7460.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7462.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
現在我們要等這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7462.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7464.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
確定之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7465.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
送到行政院跟他們談完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7467.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7469.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7469.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7471.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
最後再送到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7471.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7473.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
立法院同意之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7473.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7475.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
汽車零組件是美國輸進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7475.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
汽車零組件還有美國車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7477.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
都是零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7479.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7481.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
關稅都是零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7481.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7483.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
這是確定的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7483.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
然後我們再跟著修海關進口稅者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7485.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7487.55 |
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那所以這個也不會受到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7487.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7489.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
美國的301調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7489.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7491.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
這個沒有影響就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7491.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
最後就要看ART什麼時候送進立法院通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7495.55 |
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所以說這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7495.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7497.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
就跟美國301調查沒有關係就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7499.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7501.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
我想ART的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7501.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7503.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
剛剛才還是就是他的法源依據的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7503.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7505.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
還是美方還是在尋求一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7505.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7507.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
合適的法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7507.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7509.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
對呀 所以我就問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7509.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7511.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
那跟這個美國301的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7511.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7513.16 |
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有關係嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7513.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7515.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
是不是有關聯 我想OTN那邊跟美方都會持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7515.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7517.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
他們在協商過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7517.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7519.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
這個也會影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7519.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7521.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
所以我就問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7521.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7523.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
那你們有沒有掌握說到底這兩者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7523.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7525.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
有沒有關係 還是就脫鉤了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7525.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7527.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
汽車零組件反正就是適用232 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7527.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7529.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
然後這個跟301調查就沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7529.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7531.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
我想在談判過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7531.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7533.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
也許都會提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7533.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7535.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
但是這個部分我們並不確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7535.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7537.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
因為是OTN在談判的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7537.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7539.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
那反正確定就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7539.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7541.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
只要ART確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7541.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7543.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
之後送來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7545.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
美國輸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7545.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7547.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
台灣的這個汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7547.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7549.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
還有美國車 美國製造的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7549.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7551.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
那關稅就是零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7551.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7553.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
這就是確定的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7553.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7555.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
只是說不知道哪時候ART可以跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7555.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7557.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
談完就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7557.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7559.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
對 法源依據確認以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7559.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7561.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
送大院審一通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7561.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7563.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7563.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7565.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
謝謝我們結束李昆辰委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7565.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7567.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
接下來請林思敏委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7573.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7575.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7575.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7577.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
有請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7577.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7579.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7583.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7585.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
部長早 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7585.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7587.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
先跟你探討那個新清安三點零的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7587.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7591.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
新清安所得認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7591.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
這個個人年所得上限200萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
採單一年度認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
這個認定呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
我個人認為是非常的僵化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
因為這樣可能會誤殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7605.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
因臨時獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7605.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7607.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
或者分紅而短賺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7607.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7609.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
短賺鈔票的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7609.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7611.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
或受新竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7611.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7613.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
而且我們民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7613.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7615.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
就是名下無房 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7615.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7617.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
也不等於弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7617.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7619.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
有專家或者民間團體認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7619.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7621.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
為此有防務者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7621.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7623.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
不代表沒有資產或購買力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7623.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7625.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
補助的對象若未全面檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7625.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7627.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
家戶的總資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7627.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7629.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
資源分配未必能夠精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7629.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7631.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
所以請問財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7631.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7633.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
有沒有機制避免誤殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7633.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7635.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
真正的首購主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7637.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7639.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
有沒有相關的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7639.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7641.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
我想委員我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7641.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7643.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
所訂的這個清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7643.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7645.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
也是在2.0執行過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7645.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7647.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
各界的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7647.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7649.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
然後以及大家認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7649.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7651.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
有質疑的地方所以我們訂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7651.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7653.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
3.0這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7653.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7655.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
我們的目的就是協助沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7655.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7657.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
自有住宅民眾購買房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7657.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7659.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
然後自住使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7659.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7661.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
來支持青年來實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7661.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7663.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
他購屋安心成家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7663.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7665.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
那麼對於我們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7665.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7667.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
協助的對象必須要做一些精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7667.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7669.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
也對高所得高知力的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7669.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7671.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
我覺得這不是我們主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7671.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7673.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
要去協助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7673.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7675.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
我想這個資源應該用在需要協助的上上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7675.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7677.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
我們認同啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7677.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7679.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
但是我剛才針對我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7679.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7681.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
我想部長你回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7681.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7683.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
因為你現在把上限設定在200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7683.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7685.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
這是一個很僵化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7685.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7687.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
一個限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7687.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7689.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
就是說很可能就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7689.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7691.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
誤殺我們這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7691.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7693.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
因為可能一個年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7693.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7695.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
他因為獎金的議題或者分紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7695.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7697.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
剛好他這個超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7697.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7699.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
那是不是你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7699.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7701.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
就變成說他就沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7701.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7703.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7703.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7705.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
就受到這個限制他就沒有辦法辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7705.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7707.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
這個新青安3.0的一個貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7707.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7709.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
所以這個就會誤殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7709.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7711.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
因為我們是以借款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7711.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7713.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
人的本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7713.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7715.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
如果他們是有配偶的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7715.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7717.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
那其實他可以在兩位中一位來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7717.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7719.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
那我至於您剛剛提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7719.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7721.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
因為特殊的某種特殊一次性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7721.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7723.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
收入讓他那一年的收入特別高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7723.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7725.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
我想這個個案的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7725.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7727.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
我們在執行的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7727.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7729.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
也會去收集各方的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7729.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7731.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
所以我想我們相關的配套還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7731.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7733.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
就是不要那麼僵化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7733.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
你這樣太僵化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7735.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
如果個案真的出現這種問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
這個年度有超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
就剛好因為分紅的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7743.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
我覺得委員您剛剛這樣一個提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7743.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7745.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
我們未來在因為我們的問答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7745.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7747.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
QA都出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7747.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7749.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
大家都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7749.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
在執行過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
有一些什麼樣的情況都可以隨時我們去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
那公國航空會反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7757.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
讓我們的相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7757.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7759.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
更切合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7759.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
更切合政策的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
讓我們的真正的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
政策可以落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
那委員您剛剛提到這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
那未來的實務發生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
我們再來看做一些探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
另外就第二個我剛才提到的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
有專家有民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
為持有防務者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
不代表說他就是一個弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
所以你補助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
如果沒有全面的檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
家戶的總資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
資源的分配未必能夠精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
所以財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
財政部你是不是要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
定一個避免誤傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
真正的守過渡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7799.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7801.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
第一個你剛剛有提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7801.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7803.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
如果我們只是單一的就用200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7803.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7805.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
來做設定反而 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7805.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7807.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
家戶可能很有錢的反而沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7807.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7809.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
那跟誤殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7809.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7811.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
可能就我們這個情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7811.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7813.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
應該是誤給了而不是誤殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7813.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7815.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
那我們其實有兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7815.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7817.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
第一個除了本人200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7817.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7819.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
年所得的之外還有他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7819.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7821.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
購買房屋的總價也有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7821.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7823.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
上限的一個限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7823.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7825.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
這個目的就是說你去買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7825.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7827.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
高總價的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7827.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7829.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
房屋表示他本身的資歷跟所得高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7829.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7831.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
那也不是這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7831.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7833.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
要做一個協助的一些對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7833.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7835.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
所以在這一次裡面我們除了所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7835.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7837.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
之外還有購買高房屋的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7837.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7839.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
總價以及加上年齡等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7839.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7841.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
這些也就是說在2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7841.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7843.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
執行過程當中各界的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7843.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7845.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7845.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7847.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
都把參考進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7847.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7849.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
所以委員您剛剛提到的一些大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7849.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7851.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
在這一次我們的機制裡面都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7851.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7853.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
把它設計各界當然也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7853.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7855.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
意見就是可能就是從某一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7855.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7857.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
點來說某一個點來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7857.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7859.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
但是要從全面來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7859.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7861.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
是謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7861.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7863.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
就是一定要針對這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7863.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7865.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
去做相關的一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7865.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7867.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
另外就是說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7867.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7869.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
星期三3.0如果貸款後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7869.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7871.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
因為借款人的婚姻關係消滅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7871.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7873.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
將停止超過新台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7873.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7875.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
1000萬元核貸額的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7875.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7877.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7877.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7879.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
這個是為了防止假結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7879.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7881.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
的一個貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7881.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7883.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
去怕他假結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7883.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
然後後來就離婚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
所以離婚就去認定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7887.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7889.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
這個利息就不補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7889.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7891.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
但是如果說夫妻是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7891.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7893.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
真的失和而離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7894.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7896.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
會不會就又錯殺了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7896.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7898.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
他是真的婚姻發生問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7898.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7900.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
但是你這個規定就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7900.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7902.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
反正你離婚婚姻關係消滅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7902.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7904.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
那我就把這個利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7904.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7906.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
我們就把你就不再這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7906.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7908.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
做利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7908.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7910.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
就不再是用清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7910.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7912.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
跟委員報告當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7912.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7914.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
就是說清安貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7914.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7916.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
最高額度1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7916.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7918.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
然後不超過八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7918.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7920.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
那為了鼓勵婚育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7920.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7922.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
所以假設我們就先講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7922.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7924.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
有新婚夫妻的話那他就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7924.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7926.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
最高額度可以在1200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7926.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7928.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
那因此我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7928.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7930.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
會有6年的相關的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7930.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7932.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
的一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7932.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7934.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
那在這個6年當中如果婚姻關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7934.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7936.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
比如說失和離婚6年當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7936.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7938.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
如果婚姻失和的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7938.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7940.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
婚姻關係失和 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7940.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7942.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
然後婚姻關係消滅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7942.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7944.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
那我們會從他們離婚之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7944.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7946.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
然後對於200萬的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7946.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7948.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
不再做補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7948.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7950.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
只是針對那200萬的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7950.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7952.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
那之前的不會去追溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7952.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7954.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
都是一律就是把他收回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7954.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7956.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
什麼叫做假離婚還假結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7956.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7958.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
因為你這個目的我們看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7958.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7960.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
就是說防止他為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7960.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7962.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
去結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7962.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7964.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
就會去貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7964.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7966.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
貸了款他就去離婚嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7966.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7968.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
所以看起來就是假離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7968.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7970.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
但是如果他是真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7970.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7972.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
他貸了款但是他們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7972.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7974.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
真正的婚姻而不是假的婚姻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7974.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7976.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
那這時候你又給他收回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7976.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7978.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
我想這個就鼓勵年輕人買房 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7978.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7980.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7980.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7982.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
的意義就上失了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7982.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7984.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
結婚是人生的大事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7984.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7986.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
買房也是人生的大事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7986.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7988.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
我不認為年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7988.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7990.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
會因為那多200萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7990.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7992.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
貸款去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7992.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7994.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
假結婚這些我認為不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7994.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7996.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
而且200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7996.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7998.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
他的利息協助其實也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7998.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8000.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8000.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8002.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
也不見得是他要考慮的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8002.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
因為我們認為應該從正面的思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
但是很有可能也會發生這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
這種事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
當然是很遺憾如果說兩人母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
跟同生活離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
你不認為是錯殺啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
我們在我們的不是沒有殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
我們也沒殺他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8018.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8020.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
是他失和了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8020.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
那之後沒有做這利息母親 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
也沒辦法勸和就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8028.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
好第二個我再做一個議題請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8028.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
部長我想我們金管會最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
就在7月17號首度召集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8034.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
本國銀行的獨立董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8034.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8036.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
把讀董 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8036.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8038.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
推上銀行治理的第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8038.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8040.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
主要是聚焦在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8040.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8042.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
讀董如何行使調查權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8042.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8044.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
來協助金融監理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8044.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8046.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
監理的重點包含第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8046.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8048.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
銀行的誠信文化與行為監理框架 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8050.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8052.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
第二強化讀董的職能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8052.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8054.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
那金管會也訂定讀董協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8054.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8056.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
及調查作業程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8056.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8058.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
以及第三推動全民金融 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8058.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
金管會希望透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8062.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
座談把讀董從形式上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8062.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8064.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
獨立的一個席次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8064.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8066.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
推向銀行治理的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8066.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
與控管的第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8068.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8070.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
讓董事會不只 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8070.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8072.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
看獲利也要對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8072.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8074.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
誠信文化治理品質以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8074.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
社會負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8076.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8078.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
所以請問部長你認為金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8078.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
第一次召集 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8080.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8082.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
我們本國銀行的獨立董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8082.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8084.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
討論關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8084.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8086.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
獨立銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8086.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8088.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
獨立董事銀行治理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8088.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8090.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
責任主要的原因是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
希望讀董能夠發揮這個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
在董事會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
能夠一起協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
做這個公司治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
所以到目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8104.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
所有的公股行庫在這三大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8104.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8106.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
監理議題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8106.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8108.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
讀董運作執行的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8108.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
未來會是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
本著金管會現在這個三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8114.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
原則去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8114.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
做這個監理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8118.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
公股事業當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8118.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
推薦的讀董當然在讀董應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
符合金管會的一些要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8124.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
一定也要去落實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8124.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8126.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8126.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
另外就是說部長是否也贊成在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8130.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
所有的公股行庫中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8130.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8132.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
配合推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8132.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8134.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
此一措施是否要維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8134.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8136.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
公股行庫讀董的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8136.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8138.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
監理的獨立性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8138.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8140.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
讀董就要獨立性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8140.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8142.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
對是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8142.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8144.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
那金管會也希望若是銀行涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8144.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8146.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
讀董等高階主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8146.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8148.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
這個疑涉及不法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8148.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8150.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
或者不當行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8150.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8152.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
讀董均可依程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8152.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8154.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
介入調查與釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8154.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8156.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
但公股行庫的董座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8156.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
總經理都是官派 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8158.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8160.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
財政部是否也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8160.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8162.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
放手讓公股行庫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8162.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8164.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
讀董進行必要的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8164.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8166.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
當然會一定會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8166.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8168.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
那我就問剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8168.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8170.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
賴司法委員也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8170.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8172.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
隨循的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8172.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8174.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
財政部取得國票金的經營權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8174.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8176.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
若是再來有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8176.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8178.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
獨立董事提出修改公司商城 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8178.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8180.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
廢除副董的職位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8180.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8182.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
財政部是否會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8182.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8184.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
我想這是內部公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8184.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8186.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
治理的一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8186.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8188.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
當然是要尊重公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8188.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8190.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8190.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8192.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
剛才賴委員也強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8192.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8194.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
財政部是我們最大的股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8194.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
國票金最大的股東 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
可以說就是代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8198.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
財政部就可以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8200.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8202.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
來代表這個公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8202.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8204.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
你總該有個立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8204.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8206.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
委員剛才不是提到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8206.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8208.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
讀董我們要尊重他的獨立性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8208.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8210.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
所以在公司治理裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8210.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8212.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
董事會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8212.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8214.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
不是 我要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8214.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8216.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
廢除副董的職位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8216.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
你是否會支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8218.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
我們要尊重公司的一個治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8222.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
現在你財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8222.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8224.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
這些讀董大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8224.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8226.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
都是你官派的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8226.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8228.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
所以你財政部要有個立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8228.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8230.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
你的態度是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8230.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8232.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
我們要尊重他的獨立性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8232.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8234.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
當然尊重獨立性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8234.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8236.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
是的 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8237.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8239.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
好 謝謝我們結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8239.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8241.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
林思敏委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8241.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8243.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
接下來請顏寬恒委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8250.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8252.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8252.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8254.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
主席各位歷史觀念大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8254.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8256.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
主席有請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8258.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8260.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8262.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8264.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8264.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8266.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
今天是審查海關進口稅者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8266.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8268.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
那汽車以及汽車零組件的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8271.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8273.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
我想許多委員都有提案建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8273.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8275.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
但是財政部都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8275.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8277.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
未納入參考意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8279.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8281.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
一據這個關稅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8281.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8283.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
第100條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8283.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8285.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
已簽署的台美對等貿易協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8287.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8293.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
美國製的小客車以及汽車零組件制協定生效日期均享 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8294.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8296.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
免關稅的一個待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
這個因為美方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
還有這個兩項301的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8306.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
完成之後才會決定最終效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8307.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8309.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
目前還有產能過剩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8310.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8312.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
調查結果報告還沒有公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8313.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8315.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
所以我們是要等到301調查結束之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8316.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8318.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
最後稅率公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8318.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8320.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
然後才將包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8320.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8322.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
ART |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8322.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8326.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
投資MOU以及這種衝擊影響評估的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8326.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8328.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
送到立法院來審議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8329.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8331.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
是這樣子嗎?部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8332.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8334.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8334.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8336.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
台美簽的一個ART還有MOU |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8336.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8338.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
這是我們雙邊的一個協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8338.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8340.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
那僅適用在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8340.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8342.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
那所簽的ART跟MOU |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8342.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8344.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
未來會送到大院來做審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8344.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8346.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
通過以後必須要經過大院審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8346.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8348.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
通過我們再配合修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8348.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8350.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
海關進口水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8350.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8352.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
但是也必須只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8352.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8354.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
我們要根據ART做基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8354.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8356.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
來修正美國進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8356.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8358.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
所以我們在等他的301調查報告結束之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8358.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8362.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
至於兩者之間的相關關聯性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8362.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8364.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
我想在我們OTN的經貿談判辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8364.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8366.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
會跟美方在做相關協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8366.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8368.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
會去做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8368.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8370.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
由於這個降稅措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8370.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8372.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
僅適用美國的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8372.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8374.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
所以來自於其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8374.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8376.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
進口的車輛還有汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8376.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8378.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
仍然要依照現行稅率來課徵關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8378.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8380.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
所以未來會導致國內整車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8380.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8382.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
進口的車輛及汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8382.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8384.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
仍然要依照現行稅率來課徵關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8384.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8386.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
所以未來會導致國內整車組裝產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8386.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8390.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
會面臨結構性的一種不公平的競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8390.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8392.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
如果使用的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8392.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8394.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
並非來自美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8394.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8398.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
就要負擔5%到17.5%的進口關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8398.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8402.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
那可能使整體的生產成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8402.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8404.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
高於直接進口的整車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8404.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8406.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
所以這種關稅待遇上的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8406.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8410.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
一定會削弱國內汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8410.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8412.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
這種組裝產業的一個競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8412.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8414.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
對於台灣汽車製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8414.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8416.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
恐怕會造成不利的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8418.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8420.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
那這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8420.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
車價的組成稅制包含關稅、貨物稅還有營業稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
我們鄰近的國家相比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8429.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
中國大陸整車進口是15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8429.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
關稅15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
南韓是8% |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
那汽車龍頭就是日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
關稅是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8437.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
關稅是零 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8437.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8439.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
但是台灣我們還是17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8439.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
這個17.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
我們從政府長期維持這個17.5%的高關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8449.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
名義上就是要保護國內汽車產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8449.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8451.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
但是保護了幾十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8451.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8453.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
我們的核心技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8453.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8456.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
包括引擎、背負箱等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8456.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8458.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
還是高度依賴國外進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8458.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8461.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
我們沒有辦法自主的一個研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8461.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
以及我們的這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8467.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
所謂的製造量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8467.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8469.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
也沒有辦法符合我們自己的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8469.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8470.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8471.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8474.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
如果車價因為我們三種稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8474.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
貨物稅、關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
還有營業稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8481.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
加起來總共一部車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8481.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8484.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
就要負擔超過52.5%的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8484.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8486.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
100萬的這種國外產車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8486.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8488.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
就要負擔的稅是52萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8488.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
所以說這樣子的一個高稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
汽車的車價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8493.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
被墊得這麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8493.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8495.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
到最後還是我們國人承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8495.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
還是消費者承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8498.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
這些製造業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8498.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8500.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
廠商他並不會吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8500.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8503.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
還是轉嫁到我們這個百姓的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8503.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8505.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
除了說關稅的問題之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8505.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8507.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
還有貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8507.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8510.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
這個財政部說我們的貨物稅太舊換新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8510.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8512.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
可以減生5萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8512.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8513.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8513.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8517.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
現在普通的國產車都快要百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8517.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8519.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
八、九、十萬、一百多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8519.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8522.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
那25%的貨物稅就二十幾萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8522.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8524.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
加上這17.5%的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8524.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8527.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
你這5萬塊的第五額減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
北水車薪也不成比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8533.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
不只是整車的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8533.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8537.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
包括進口零組件的關稅也很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8537.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8539.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
像引擎變速箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8539.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
這些關鍵零件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8541.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8543.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
又面臨到17.5%的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8543.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
這些都應該降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8545.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8546.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
甚至於應該是免稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8546.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8548.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
這不是只有我們立委提案而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8548.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8550.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
經濟部也回應支持說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8550.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8553.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
對國內無法生產至關鍵汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8553.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8555.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
應實施零關稅政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8555.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
所以說我是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8557.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
財政部也應該要參考本院提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
還有我們經濟部的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8567.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
取消汽車零組件關稅的一個這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8567.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
這樣才有助於整個市場價格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8572.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
能夠更接近實際的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8572.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8573.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8573.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8575.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8575.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8579.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
有關國內沒有產自的汽車零組件的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8579.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8581.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
是不是要調降這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8581.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8584.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
經濟部正在辦稅市支出的評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8584.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8587.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
那等到稅市支出評估報告完畢以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8587.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8589.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
那如果認為是有必要而且可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8589.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8590.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
而且有效的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8590.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8592.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
我們再配合再做後續的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8592.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8594.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
後續等他報告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8594.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8596.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
再來研議剛剛可不可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8596.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8599.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
經濟部也說他們也正在做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8599.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8601.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
家庭在做有關稅市支出評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8601.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8603.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
其實我們眼光放遠一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8603.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
你調降關稅隨著進口車量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8609.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
這個價格下降還有市場需求的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8609.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
那進口車量可能會也是一定會提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8615.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
提升之後他帶動了我們公路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8617.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8620.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
公路使用養護費還有使用牌照稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8620.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8623.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
還有相關的規費等等也都會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8623.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8625.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
那進口車的市場擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8625.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8628.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
也會促進汽車銷售維護保養 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8628.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
還有相關服務業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
所以也是一樣創造就業機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8633.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8635.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
並且形成新的稅收來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8635.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
所以這個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
部長我剛剛聽你的說法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
還是有意願要來研議說對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8643.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8645.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
調降關稅甚至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8645.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8647.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
理應的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8648.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
我要說明我剛剛講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8650.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
國內沒有產製的汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8654.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
的關稅調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8654.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
目前經濟部正在做稅市支出評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8662.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
好我想這個部分我剩下利用一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8662.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
跟部長再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
因為這個IU所涉及的品項通路實在太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8670.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
那我之前也有建議衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8670.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8672.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
可以跟我們財政部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8672.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8676.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
提供民眾一個官方的食安載具查詢平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8676.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8680.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
讓民眾輸入載具號碼之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8680.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8682.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
就能夠知道自己什麼時候消費過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8682.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8684.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
什麼樣的自來油商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8684.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8687.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
但是這個衛福部的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8687.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8689.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
又在那邊扯來扯去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8689.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8692.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
說不是每個人都在用載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8692.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8693.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8694.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8696.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
我想你們不是也常常說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8696.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8698.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
這個載具的普及率很高嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8698.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8701.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
所以既然這樣為什麼做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8701.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8702.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
衛福部不願意做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8702.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8705.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
那財政部這邊願不願意挑起這個重擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8705.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8708.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
由我們財政部主動來研立這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8708.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8709.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
部長,願意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8710.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8713.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
您講的是食安的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8713.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8715.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
那食安的主管機關是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8716.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8717.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8717.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8720.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
那哪一些產品有什麼樣的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8720.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8722.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
它的製造也好加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8722.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8724.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
或這些販賣回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8724.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8727.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
這個財政部沒有這個權責來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8727.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8728.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
這樣的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8728.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8729.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
而且我們做的也不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8729.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8731.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
我們已經跟他要求了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8731.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8736.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
當然我們跟衛福部是可以做相關的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8736.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8739.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
但是衛福部先要把這個平台建置起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8739.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8743.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
然後我們再來看透過我們的載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8743.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8745.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
如何去來去做判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8746.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8747.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
因為我在消費的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8747.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8749.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
我可能只買了某一個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8749.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8751.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
那這個東西是不是屬於有問題的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8751.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8753.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
那個P號如何勾串 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8753.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8754.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
你可能沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8754.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8759.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
你沒有看過民間自主研發的那個載具Open |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8759.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8761.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
他們已經你只要輸入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8761.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8765.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
就可以查詢到自己購買過多少自然有的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8765.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8768.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
沒有道理民間可以做我們政府不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8768.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8772.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
這部分以科技的手段來落實食安溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8772.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8775.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
我認同用科技的手段來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8775.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
對於民眾食安有幫助的一個事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8779.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
但是民間可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8779.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8783.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
民間如何去負責財政部或衛福部要做的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8783.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8786.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
那它就是一個政府的一個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8786.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8788.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
那就不是說我隨便放就可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8788.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8791.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
不是所以我說建請說我請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8791.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8793.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
我們主動去要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8793.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8797.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
去要求跟衛福部一起來把這事情做好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8797.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8798.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
我們可以聯繫衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8798.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8799.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
看有沒有什麼需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8799.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8802.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
我們互相可以勾串的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8802.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8804.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
這是政府必須要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8804.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8806.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
而且要馬上要做的事情好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8806.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8807.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8807.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8810.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
那不是我想說還是要衛福部主責的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8811.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8813.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
他主責但是你要要求他嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8813.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
我們都要求啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
是我想委員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8819.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
對我會轉達委員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8822.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8824.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
好謝謝員工和委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8826.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
好部長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8827.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8829.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
接下來請李彥秀 委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8835.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8836.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8837.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8840.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
我是不是可以請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8840.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8842.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
好請陳政務莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8847.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8848.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8849.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8850.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8850.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8854.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
我長期在財委會都一直非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8854.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8858.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
我們現在全球最低說服制GNT的相關的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8858.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8861.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
整體的進度跟狀況已經不是只上談兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8861.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8865.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
現在全球有十多個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8865.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8868.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
已經完成他們國內的立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8868.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8869.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
包括越南啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8869.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
包括澳洲等亞洲有好幾個國家也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8877.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
那我們2026年開始面臨當地申報的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8877.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8878.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
那我要請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8878.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
就是說我們整體面對GNT |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8883.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
我們現在因應的進度相關的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8883.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8886.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
到底在哪一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8886.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8890.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
跟委員報告對於有關全球最低說服制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8890.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8893.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
財政部已經組成了一個工作小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8893.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8896.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
我們必須要對OECD最新發布的文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8896.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
還有其他OECD非屬於IF成員的GNT的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
他如何去檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8905.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
因為我們本身並不是屬於這個成員國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8905.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
那我們如果我們的實施必須要根據相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8911.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
他檢視的規則來做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8911.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8913.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
我們會持續的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8913.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
第一個我們有工作小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8917.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
而且我們會對於OECD所發布新的文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8917.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
都要隨時能夠掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
部長那我先請問你一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8923.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
我們GNT最主要的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8924 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8928 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
加入就是希望這15%的稅制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8928 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8930 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
我們加入的目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8930 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8932 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
希望稅留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8932.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8936.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
GNT最主要目的是避免我國的課稅權旁落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8936.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8938.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
是避免課稅權旁落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8938.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8941.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
就是應該讓我們可以課得到的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8941.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8944.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
不要讓他們為了減稅然後跑到其他國家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8946.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8948.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
那你剛剛成立工作小組我也認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8948.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8951.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
所以我剛一開始說好幾個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8951.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8954.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
都已經法規牌在那邊已經上路了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8954.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8955.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
所以我才問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8955.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8957.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
我們的問題到底出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8957.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8959.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
因為我們現在目前是課12% |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8959.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8963.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
剩下那3%我們當然不擔心的是課不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8963.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8966.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
所以你現在到底進度到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8968.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8970.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
不是你一直說我成立工作小組 |
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8970.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8972.67 |
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我知道你有成立工作小組 |
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8974.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8976.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
那但從今年年初開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8976.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8980.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
我們已經討論這個問題討論很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8980.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8984.11 |
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所以部長我們什麼時候會有更具體的進度出來 |
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8984.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8986.64 |
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我想這個部分我們會 |
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8986.64 |
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8988.64 |
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是在你這邊有問題嗎還是在行政院 |
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8988.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8990.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
不是在這邊有問題或在行政院 |
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8990.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8993.64 |
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而是我們這個部分必須要做審慎的研議 |
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8993.64 |
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8997.64 |
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而且目前來說我們在產創條例裡面 |
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8997.64 |
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9000.64 |
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已經有一個就是說他已經有一個要求 |
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9000.64 |
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就是如果沒有達到15%的話 |
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9005.64 |
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他必須按照15%來課這個稅 |
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9005.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9008.64 |
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這個部分其實對於國際集團 |
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9008.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9010.64 |
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那我就要跟你接著下去探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9010.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9012.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
就是說我們這個草案 |
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9012.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9016.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
114年度已經開始到討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9016.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9018.64 |
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從預告到現在已經一年半 |
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9018.64 |
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9021.64 |
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我同意這件事情應該審慎討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9021.64 |
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9025.64 |
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但是我們現在台灣我們有一個AMT |
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9025.64 |
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9031.64 |
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AMT並不是OECD國家合格當地補充的稅制 |
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9031.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9035.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
所以我們台灣的企業依法繳納了稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9035.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9038.64 |
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但是繳完之後我們也有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9038.64 |
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9042.64 |
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其他國家因為所得涵蓋的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9042.64 |
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9045.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
還有包括徵收不足的利潤為原則 |
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9045.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9047.64 |
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就是我們的IR跟UTPR |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9047.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9052.64 |
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同一筆金額可能會有需要做到補充課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9052.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9055.64 |
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所以同一筆所得的金額變成補充課稅 |
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9055.64 |
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9058.64 |
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這變成說企業在台灣繳的稅 |
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9058.64 |
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9060.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
變成沒有辦法抵繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9060.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9064.64 |
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白白的會流到國外就是說繳到其他國家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9064.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9065.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
這也不是我們願意看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9065.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9069.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
而變成是在本國的企業變成要雙重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9069.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9071.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
他負擔國內的稅制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9071.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9073.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
他又要負擔國外的稅制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9073.64 |
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9074.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
這是我們擔心的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9074.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9077.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
所以為什麼我急著這一年半的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9077.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9079.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
我們草案已經討論一年半 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9079.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9082.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
我也同意說你已經有專案小組原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9082.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9083.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
但我一直關心進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9084.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9086.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
保護台灣的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9086.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
讓稅你剛講的課稅權旁落的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9089.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9091.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
我們希望保護台灣企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9091.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9093.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
不要讓他在國內已經講的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9093.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9094.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
在國外又不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9094.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
在國外又被扣了稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9095.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9097.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
那我們也希望符合OECD國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9097.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9099.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
那稅制留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9101.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9103.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
所以我們才要趕快上路嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9103.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9105.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
我今天的質詢應該很善意吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9105.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9106.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9106.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9108.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
委員您提到的就是一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9108.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9109.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9110.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
最低稅付制避免是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9114.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
我們的課稅主權旁落國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9114.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9117.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
但是也要避免我們被重複課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9117.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
我們被重複課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9120.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
所以我們這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9120.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9121.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
關鍵是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9121.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9122.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
財務部長我問一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9122.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9124.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
我們的AMT在國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9125.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
是不是被國際認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9127.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9127.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9129.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
AMT是我們國內自己的稅分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9129.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9130.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9130.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9132.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
就是說我們收了很多稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9132.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9133.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
國外並不一定認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9133.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9134.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
所以有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9134.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
有同一家企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
他可能在台灣被收了稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
但在國外還是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
你沒有達到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9142.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
所以我要課你不足15%的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9142.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9143.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
有可能嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9143.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9147.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
所以我才關心這整件事情的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9147.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9149.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
所以委員您剛剛也提到一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9149.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9151.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
我們不能課稅權旁落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9151.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9153.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
同時也不能重複課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9153.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9154.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
所以我們才提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9154.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9157.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
我們因為不是OECD裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9157.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
RF的成員國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
所以他在檢視我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9161.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
課這個稅的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9161.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9163.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
他要不要承認我們課這個稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9163.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
才不會被人家去重複課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9168.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
這個就是我們要去檢視他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9168.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9169.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
對於這樣的國家如何去檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9169.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9170.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9170.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9171.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9171.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9174.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
但是他這個文件到目前都還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9175.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9176.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
還沒有發佈嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9176.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9179.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
這個檢視文件還沒有發佈啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9179.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9180.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
是我們的檢視文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9180.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9181.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
還是他們的檢視文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9181.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9182.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
他們的檢視文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9182.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9183.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
你說OECD國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9183.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
OECD對於不是RF成員國裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9188.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
他課徵所謂的相關的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9188.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9189.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9190.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9192.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
不管OECD國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9192.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9194.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
他有沒有承擔在其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9194.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
有可能成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
這有可能還是被課稅喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9200.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9202.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
這個是跟委員剛剛告告的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9202.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9203.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
他被重複課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9203.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9205.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
所以他要跟誰誰是申附啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9205.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9206.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9206.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9207.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
所以這就是我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9207.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9208.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
扣我們申附嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9208.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9210.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
我在國外被扣的時候拿回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9210.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9211.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
你已經扣我一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9211.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9214.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
所以一定要我們要避免這樣的一個情況嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9214.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9215.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9215.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9218.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
所以這就是現在我們在討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9218.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9219.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
談到的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9219.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9220.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
那當然這部分我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9220.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9222.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
那當然接受複查也不一定會過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9222.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9224.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
我這邊就有好幾個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9224.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9226.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
所以我才說我們趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9226.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9228.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
符合國際法規接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9228.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9230.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
然後也保護台灣的產業嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9230.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9231.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
那所以你還要多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9231.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9233.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
這個部分我們想盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9233.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9236.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
我們可以再把他一個研究成果出來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9236.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9237.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
再安排去來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9237.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9239.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
我覺得財政部在最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9239.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9242.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
包括上個禮拜我們討論的那個一陣稅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9242.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9244.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
大法官就是在最後關鍵兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9244.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
已經時間快到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9248.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
我們法案還沒送出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9248.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9249.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
還有我今天關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9249.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9252.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
我覺得我們很多重要的法規法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9252.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9256.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
速度都稍嫌慢了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9256.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9258.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
謝謝部長我今天很客氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9258.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9260.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
所以我覺得一陣稅法明天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9260.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9264.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
這對產業的影響衝擊是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9264.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9266.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
好一陣稅法明天就會提報院會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9266.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9267.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9267.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9268.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
好部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9268.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9269.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
這個也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9269.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9270.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
所以部長我要提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9270.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9273.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
我覺得我們的租稅優惠的結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9273.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9276.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
整體的結構是有點失靈的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9276.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9279.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
我是不是可以順便請一下我們經濟部發展署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9279.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9280.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
產業發展署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9280.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9281.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
為什麼這麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9281.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9283.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
我們產券條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9283.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9285.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
產業創新條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9285.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9287.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
舉得越多投資抵減的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9287.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
在租稅優惠有優惠的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9293.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
反而它其中稅率被壓得更低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9293.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9296.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
然後也觸發補稅門檻的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9296.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9297.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
也有可能上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9297.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9299.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
所以在GMT時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9299.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9303.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
反而成為未來會觸發補稅的未爆彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9303.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9305.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
這就是我剛才講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9305.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9306.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
它賺得越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9306.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9307.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
利潤越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9307.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9309.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
有時候在產業創新條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9309.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9312.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
因為它有很多的租稅優惠在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9312.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9313.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
反而相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9313.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
在GMT的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
有可能到其他國家去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
它可能觸發要補稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9319.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9319.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9320.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
部長你了解我的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9320.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9321.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
因為我們現在對於很多產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9321.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9324.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
我們有一些出稅的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9324.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9326.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
經濟部也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9326.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9328.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
那反而賺得越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9328.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9330.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
它反而在GMT |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9330.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9332.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
它有可能有補稅的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9332.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9336.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
那另外在我們的產業創新條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9336.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9338.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
第十條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9338.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9340.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
台版的經變法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9340.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9342.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
我們又要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9342.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9344.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
抵減稅的一些條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9344.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9348.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
最重要的是有效稅必須要達到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9348.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9349.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
才能夠抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9349.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9352.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
所以在產業創新條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9352.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9354.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
光是我講的這兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9354.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9355.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
它就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9357.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9359.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
我們一邊又要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9359.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9360.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
台灣經變法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9360.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9361.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
我們鼓勵企業就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9361.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9363.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
你一定要15%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9363.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9364.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
我們才能夠抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9364.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9366.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
但是在某一些企業裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9366.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9368.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
我們又講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9370.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
減得越多就是說賺得越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
然後我們有一些稅率的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
壓得越低反而有補稅的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
所以我要提一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9381.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
是上次我也提過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9381.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
就是說在國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
包括新加坡跟越南 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9386.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
他們已經迅速的針對GMT |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9386.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9389.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
他們有做了一些改變過去傳統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9389.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9392.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
租稅獎勵轉為現金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9392.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9394.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
我不再用租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9394.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9396.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
因為15%嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9396.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9397.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
所以我現在用現金補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9397.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9399.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
跟現金退稅的實質的誘因 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9399.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9401.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
來避免就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9401.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9403.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
剛才我講的產生條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9403.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9405.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
很低處的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9405.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9406.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
所以部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9406.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
我們這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9409.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
有沒有可能進行研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9410.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9411.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9411.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9413.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
這個就是我們財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9413.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9414.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
每次都會提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9414.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
各部會提出租稅優惠的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9416.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9418.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
我們都必須要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9418.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9420.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
或者是委員們的提案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9420.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9422.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
都提到財政紀律法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9422.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
一再提到的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9424.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9425.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
所以部長你這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9425.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
會放進去研議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9426.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9428.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
因為你現在還沒出來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9428.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9430.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
租稅優惠不可過渡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9430.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
我們一直有在強調這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9432.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9433.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
所以你講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9433.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
租稅優惠是過渡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9434.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9437.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
未來像新加坡跟越南的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9437.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9439.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
做法那當然這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9439.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9441.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
有關有些相關的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9441.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
補助的部分是屬於經濟部的一個權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9445.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9447.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
所以經濟部可不可以回應我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9449.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9450.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
是 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9450.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9452.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
目前我們產創條例第九條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9452.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9454.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
補貼的部分是政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9454.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9457.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
那目前是針對研發做補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9457.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9459.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
所以業者只要針對研發面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9459.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9461.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
有需要相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9461.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9462.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
那你這樣怎麼還是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9462.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9463.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
回應到我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9463.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9467.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
部長你很清楚整套矛盾在哪裡嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9467.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9468.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
你很知道整套矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9468.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9470.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
因為這個是一個跨部會的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9471.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9473.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
你GMP是一個跨部會的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9473.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9474.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
你剛剛說審慎研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9474.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9475.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
我們有專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9475.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9477.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
有把經濟部納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9477.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9479.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
這就是其他國家是跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9479.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9481.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
再去處理這整個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9481.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9483.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
那你現在有專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9483.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9484.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
是一個跨部會的專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9484.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9485.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
我也認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9486.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9487.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
所以我們才要解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9487.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9489.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
你有一年半的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9489.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
在研議這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
那居然現在經濟部還是回答說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9494.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
我們這個是針對研發的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9494.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9496.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
所以我們這整件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9496.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
有專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9497.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
但是沒有跨部會解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9499.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9501.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
這是我今天質詢的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9501.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9502.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
所以我有三個具體要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9502.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9504.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
我也不再用別人時間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9504.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9506.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
第一個我們想辦法加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9506.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9509.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
符合OECD標準的QDMTT |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9509.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9510.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
確保我們未來稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9510.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9512.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
百分之百可以留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9512.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9514.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
這是你我共同的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9514.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9516.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
第二在保護跨國企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9516.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9518.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
順利接軌GMP之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9518.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9519.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
我們要積極輔導企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9519.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9521.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
適用避風港的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9521.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9523.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
可以降低企業遵循成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9523.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9525.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
那第三經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9525.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9527.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
我認為經濟部應該即刻研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9527.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9528.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
把租稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9529.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9531.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
體檢專心為實質現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9531.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
也是比照新加坡跟越南的方式的防禦策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
我想這三個比較具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
當然是我個人的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
但是我非常期望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9545.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
這是一個跨部會的整體的政策問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9545.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9547.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
面對台灣有這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9548.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9551.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
跨國我們的護國群山 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9551.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9553.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
我覺得我們要想辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9553.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9555.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
跨部會來去解決這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9555.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9556.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
所以部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9556.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9558.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
可以再多給你一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9558.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9559.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
但是這個絕對不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9559.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9561.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
研議在小組裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9561.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9563.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
但是我今天我聽到經濟部的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9563.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9565.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
我覺得你們沒有跨部會的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9565.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9567.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
這是我覺得非常遺憾的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9567.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9568.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
所以GNT喊了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9568.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9570.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
我覺得還是只上作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9570.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9571.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
以上這是我今天的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9571.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9572.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9572.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9573.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9573.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9574.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
謝謝李安修委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9576.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9578.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
接下來請王世堅委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9596.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9597.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9597.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9599.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
我請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9600.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9601.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9607.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9608.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9608.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9610.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
莊部長辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9610.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9612.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
不過我看了這份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9612.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9615.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
我才斷然發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9615.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9617.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
我們財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9621.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9623.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
居然自認為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9623.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9626.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
經濟部的小弟就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9626.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9628.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
今天這麼重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9630.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9631.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
關於關稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9631.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9633.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
這個大家的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9635.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9641.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
經濟部只派了一位產業發展署副署長來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9641.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9643.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
這個不打緊喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9643.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9645.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
部長這完全不對稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9645.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9646.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
你是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9646.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9649.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
他派個副署長來不打緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9649.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9651.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
你看在這一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9652.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9654.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
你們的這一份財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9654.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9656.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
以你具名 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9656.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9658.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
部長具名的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9658.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9662.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
你們全部在幫經濟部講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9665.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9667.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
成舉何時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9667.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9670.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
財政部在關稅這一部分的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9672.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9676.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
竟然當經濟部的帥汗就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9677.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9679.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
什麼話來話去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9680.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9682.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
我誰跟你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9682.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9684.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
正式提案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9684.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9686.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
包括我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9686.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9688.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
我們今天總共 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9688.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9690.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
有七位委員先前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9690.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9694.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
這兩年多還針對關稅的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9695.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
我的最徹底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9697.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9699.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
我的為進口車關稅就是降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9699.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9703.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
所以你們第一筆就完全針對我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9703.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9707.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
你們在一個正式的財政部的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9707.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9709.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
就這三頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9710.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
就這三頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9712.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9714.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
在報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9715.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9719.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
等於有一整頁都通通在談我的這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9719.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9721.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
說我降到零這個嚴重性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9721.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9723.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9723.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9725.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
我先從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9725.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9727.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
經濟部你們的老大哥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9728.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9730.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
打起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9729.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9731.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9730.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9732.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
汽車關稅落 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9732.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9734.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
驟降 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9734.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9736.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
甚至像我說的說降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9736.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9738.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
他說會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9739.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9741.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
我們國產車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9741.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
的製造者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
這些廠商會撤離 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9747.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
他說影響啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9748.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9750.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
先前第一次他來報告的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9750.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9752.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
他說影響十幾萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9752.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9754.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
我糾正他以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9754.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9756.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
他今天把他這個數字降了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9756.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9758.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
他降到我講的實際數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9758.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9760.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
他說八萬多人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9760.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9762.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
他說八萬多人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9762.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9764.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9766.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
部長我上次就講了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9768.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9770.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
其實影響到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9770.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9772.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
我們國內的汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9772.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9774.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
製造業者你要分兩大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9774.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9776.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
一個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9776.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9778.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
整車的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9778.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9780.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
那個部分才一萬一千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9780.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9782.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9782.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9784.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我們的零主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9785.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9789.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
零主建將近八萬多人的從業人員裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9789.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9791.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
人家我們的零主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9791.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9793.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
超強的耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9794.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9796.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我們在出口光是到美國的就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9796.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9798.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
我們出口到美國的產品裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9798.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9800.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
我們台灣製造的產品裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9800.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9802.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
出口的第十大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9802.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9804.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
就是我們的汽車零主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9810.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9814.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
我們汽車零主建每一年的產值多少咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9814.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9816.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
我們零主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9817.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9819.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
高達一千三百二十九億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9819.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9821.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
一年啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9823 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9825 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
我們的汽車零主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9825 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9828 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
一年高達一千三百二十九億的出口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9828 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9830 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
完全不會受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9831.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9832.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
信口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9833.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9836.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
進口車關稅降到零的任何影響嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9838.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9840.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
甚至我們會更強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9840.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9842.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9844.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9843.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
經濟部的那個講法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
完全胡說八道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9850.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9852.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
我不怪經濟部那種講法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9853.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9855.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
本來經濟部就是比較天馬行空嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9857.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9859.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
但是你財政部不一樣咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9860.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9862.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
財政部是很務實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9862.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
沒毛錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9864.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9866.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
我們都要去算稅金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9866.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9868.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
不是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9868.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9870.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
你給我們的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9870.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9872.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
都是最詳實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9872.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9874.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
而且最確切的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9874.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9876.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
經濟部本來他去詳政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9878.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9880.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
一些發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9880.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9882.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
本來他就會比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9882.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9884.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
這種活潑式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9884.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9886.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
幻想式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9886.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9888.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
這個我不怪他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9887.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9889.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
但是他不對的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9889.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9891.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
你要糾正他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9892.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9894.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
不是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9894.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9896.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
怎麼你可以把他錯誤的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9896.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9898.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
我上次質詢都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9899.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9901.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
糾正過他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9903.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
結果那個錯誤數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9903.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9905.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
你又把他灌到這一次的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9906.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
誰女生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9907.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9909.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
要把進股車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9909.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9911.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
關稅降到零你說萬萬不可 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9911.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9913.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
因為那個你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9913.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9915.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
孔友國產車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9917.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9919.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
相繼撤離之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9919.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9923.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
影響約847元的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9923.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9925.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
及8.26萬位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9925.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9927.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
從業人員生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9927.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9929.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
我就說這個數字是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9929.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9931.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
8.26萬是我上次糾正過他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9931.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9933.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
他倒正了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9933.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9935.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
他本來說十幾萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9935.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9937.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
現在說8.26萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9937.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
但是我要跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
這些零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
8.26萬位從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9945.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
人家他們工作很勤奮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9945.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9947.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
他的工作完全不受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9950.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9952.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
影響的是像玉龍那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9954.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9956.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
我們保護他七十幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9956.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9958.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
這個阿斗保護他七十幾年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9958.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9962.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
我們還要保護這個阿斗保護多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9963.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9965.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
他也不失本業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9967.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9969.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
他也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9968.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9970.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
跑去做租賃啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9971.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9973.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
地下的錢莊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9973.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9975.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
有牌的地下的錢莊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9975.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9977.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
最大的就是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9976.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9978.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
嘿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9978.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
我們還在保護他什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9980.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9982.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
那女生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9982.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9984.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
你又說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9983.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
這點是我們自己財政部隊的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9986.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9988.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
這個我接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9988.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9990.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
你說這個關稅三百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9992.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9994.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
但是才三百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9994.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9996.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
你在報告裡面把它寫到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9996.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9998.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
這個不得了這個稅金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9998.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10000.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
是四百多億你給我你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10000.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10002.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
報告裡面的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10002.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10004.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
是說進稅損 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10004.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10006.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
523億至601 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10006.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10008.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
336億的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10008.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10010.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10010.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10012.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
膨脹到500多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10012.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10014.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
原因是什麼你把進口車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10014.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10016.07 |
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的貨物稅也算進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10017.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10019.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
嘿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10018.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10020.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
進口車我們的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10020.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10022.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
我的其他委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10022.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10024.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
寶貴的提案都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10024.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10026.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
只是說降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
進口車一樣要收貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
他現在進口的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
多少戶戶貨物稅以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
照說以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
降了關稅進口的量大增 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
進口增加多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
量我們照收那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
貨物稅呀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
所以沒有貨物稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
的問題我們談的是關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
所以我再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10051.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10053.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
進口車關稅降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10053.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10055.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
這是還我們全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10055.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10057.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10058.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10060.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
車輛消費者還他們一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10061.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10063.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
讓大家能夠跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10063.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10065.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
全世界各國的人一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10065.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10067.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
享用價廉物美的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10069.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10071.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
這個國外的車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10071.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10073.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
大家一起來評比嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10077.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
那至於說會不會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10077.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10079.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
我們國內汽車產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10079.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10081.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
我就是跟你說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10081.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10083.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
90%不影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10083.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10085.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
因為我們90%是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10085.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10087.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10087.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10089.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
我們的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10089.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10091.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
我們從 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10090.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10092.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
車燈離合器變速箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10092.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10094.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
氣囊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10094.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10096.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
我們這些都是世界各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10096.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10098.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
尤其先進國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10098.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10100.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
他們都熱切希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10100.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10102.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
熱切從我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10102.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10104.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
出口進口到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10104.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10106.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
他們國家去的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10106.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10108.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
所以這個部分產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10108.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10110.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
不受影響我希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10110.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10112.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10114.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10113.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10115.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
這個鼓起勇氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10115.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10117.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
大聲的跟經濟部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10117.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10119.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
你講的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10119.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10121.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
你要我財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10121.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10123.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
代你發言的這一些裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10123.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10125.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
有很多是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10125.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10127.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
謬誤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10127.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10129.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
你要大聲跟他這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10129.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10131.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
然後你針對財稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10131.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10133.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
你來跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10133.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10135.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
所有的提案的委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10135.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10137.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
你要這樣關稅這個是影響多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10137.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10139.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
這個我們來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10139.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10141.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
但是不要把整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10141.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10143.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
產業說他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10143.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10145.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
會從我們國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10145.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10147.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
消失會撤離會影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10147.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10149.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
多少從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10149.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
這個部分是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10153.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
經濟部一個錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10153.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10155.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
虛幻的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10155.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10157.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
這個部分大家要理清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10157.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10159.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10159.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10161.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
部長你的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
我想在這裡面有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
經濟部和財政部基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
我們都是行政團隊的議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
我們各有職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10172.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
在海關這個部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10172.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10174.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
關稅當然有海關進口稅則的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10174.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10176.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
但是關稅裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10176.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10178.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
除了稅收之外還有很重要一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10178.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10180.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
就是國內產業的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10180.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10182.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
的一些影響國內產業的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10182.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10184.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
影響目前的他的主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10184.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10186.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
機關就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10186.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10188.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
至於他的數字等等這個部分 |
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10188.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10190.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
我相信我們今天的經濟部代表 |
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10190.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10192.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
也在現場他也都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10192.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10194.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
聽到委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10194.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10196.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
部長我剛剛講的這些數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10196.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10198.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
他否認嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10198.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10200.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
那經濟部現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10200.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10202.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
副署長我講的這些數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10202.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10204.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
我說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10204.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10206.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
我們的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10207.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10209.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
零組件在我們國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10209.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10211.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
汽車業者將近九成內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10213.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10215.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
好可憐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10215.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10217.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
那個產銷的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10217.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10219.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
這個你否認嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10219.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10221.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
進口車關稅降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10221.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10223.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
或者降低不管降到多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10223.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10227.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
會影響我們國內的零組件嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10227.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10229.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
你認為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10229.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10231.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
零組件的部分確實也會受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10231.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10233.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
跟委員報告我們國內的汽車零組件產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10233.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10235.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
大概有超過兩成的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10235.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10237.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10236.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10238.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
用在國產車上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10238.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10240.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
那當然您剛才所提的這個出口的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10240.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10242.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
確實也接近八成左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10242.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10244.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10244.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10246.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
王這八坨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10246.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
變高魚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10248.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10250.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
我們國內其他整車業者的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10250.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10252.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
我們高達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10252.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10254.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
一千三百二十九億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10254.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10256.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
輸往美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10256.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10258.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
輸往美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10258.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10260.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
不過內銷的這些零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10260.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10262.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
還是有七八百億的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10263.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10265.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10265.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10267.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10267.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10269.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
你把那個提供給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10269.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10271.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
我有出口的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10269.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10271.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
你說我們自己國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10272.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10274.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
內銷的七八百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10274.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10276.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
你把這個金額提供給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10279.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10281.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
我們零組件業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10281.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10283.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
八萬五千人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10283.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10285.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
這一次你們有接受我上次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10285.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10287.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
你們有更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10287.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10289.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
你就看你們上一次經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10289.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
委託財政部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10293.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
還有經濟部正式出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10293.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10295.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10293.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10295.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
會影響我們汽車業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10295.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10297.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
十幾萬從業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10297.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10299.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10299.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10301.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10300.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10302.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
抱歉後主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10302.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10304.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10304.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
文言聳聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10308.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10310.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
另外四個字我就不講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10310.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10312.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
因為我剛剛已經講過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10312.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10314.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
胡說八道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10313.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10315.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10314.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10316.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
跟委員更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10316.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10318.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
是六百億國內的產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10318.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10320.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
你把數字給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10320.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
美國的1329億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10327.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
我們出口過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10327.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
再請經濟部把相關的資料提供給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
跟我們財委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
我也非常想了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10337.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
接下來請許中信委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10346.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10348.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
我們有請財政部專屬部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10353.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10355.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10355.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10357.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10357.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10359.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
我今天講話如果比較大聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10361.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10363.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
我要講給民進黨聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
給大家聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10365.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10367.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
進口小汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10367.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10369.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
不能再降關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10372.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10374.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
文言聳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10374.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10376.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
黨票三個字是你們進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10377.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
但是你這個正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10379.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10381.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
大大壟壟的我阿南苦教英雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10383.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10385.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
所以講我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
很輕盈剛才這裡輸掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
被副輸掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10388.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10390.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
英雄法典 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10390.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10392.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
部長你有沒有被副輸掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10392.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10394.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
被輸掉比較專業你自己講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10395.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10397.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
我愛你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
你也裝得我有差過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10399.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10401.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10401.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10403.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
有其他這個廣播體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10403.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10405.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
就是靠我們作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10405.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10407.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
中立的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10406.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10408.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
輸掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10408.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10410.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10411.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10413.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
今天見得好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10412.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10414.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
點播客 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10414.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10416.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
粉絲公稅順六百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10416.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
空一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10420.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
我一年你不夠專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10421.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10423.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
你不去請教經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10427.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10429.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
Singip and Tech |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10431.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
我們為了要補助小汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10432.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10434.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
17點5的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10435.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10437.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
None Give |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10438.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10440.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
None Give |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10441.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10443.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
很多東西敢做人關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10450.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10452.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
Tech |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10451.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10453.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
就是17點5的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10454.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10456.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
今天我們民主黨的委員競選提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10458.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10460.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
你如果說民主黨提出我不會收起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10460.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10462.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
民進黨定員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10463.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10465.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
我來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10467.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10469.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
人回票跟你接齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10469.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
你給我拿這個花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10473.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
變形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10473.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10475.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
我給你拿這個花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10476.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10478.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
英空才 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10478.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10480.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
汽車上官的主角者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10481.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10483.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
弟弟小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10483.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10485.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
我們整個台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10485.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10487.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
直接叫汽車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10487.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10489.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10488.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10490.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
有所關的這個人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10490.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10492.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
隆重16萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10494.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10496.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
兩萬兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10496.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10498.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
六百這兩人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10499.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
來得爆炸37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10501.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10503.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
你阿南庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
幫我們支持整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10505.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10507.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
你英空 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10509.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10511.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
三個老鄧民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10511.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10513.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
結果今天民進黨提出政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10514.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10516.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
經營家來這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10516.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10518.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
辱罵我們的國務院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10518.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10520.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10519.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10521.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
對家國務院還非常驚動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10522.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10524.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
如果沒有這裡的國務院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10526.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10528.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
所以說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10528.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10530.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
我要向部長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10530.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10532.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
你的孫孩報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10532.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10534.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
什麼事都會報銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10534.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10536.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
不是說孫六百空英年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10537.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10539.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
對台灣的孫孩非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10539.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10541.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10541.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10543.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
小汽車進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10543.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10545.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
萬萬不可 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
尤其現在台灣河野山 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
差別這麼惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10550.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10552.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
我一定來向你請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10553.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10555.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
一三歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10557.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
有要求的六百而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10557.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
八分之九十四不必六 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10561.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
一三歲嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10561.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10563.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
所以是平戶差距產生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10565.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10567.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
六趴角碎人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
一三歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10569.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10571.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10571.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10573.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
河定一三歲的時間拖很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10573.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
10575.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
打死他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10574.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10576.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
這種狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10576.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10578.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
你這個小汽車還免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10578.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10580.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
這樣吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10582.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
平戶差距又不再惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10583.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10585.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
所以說今天如果國民黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10585.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10587.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
拿出這個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10588.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10590.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
但是今天民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10590.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10592.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
拿出這個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10593.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10595.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
我認為他們準備不來接情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10596.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10598.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
我認為他們準備不來接情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10598.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
所以說各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10600.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10602.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
我敢跟我一報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10601.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10603.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
我們應該要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10603.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10605.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
是叫德國合作發展電動車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10607.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10609.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
別人流流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10609.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10611.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
他們來台灣設計的發展電動車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10611.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10613.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
我們台灣做電動車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10613.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10615.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
剛才不會做馬桶而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
主要德國的電動車來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
導致我們台中所有的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
10620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
10622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
叫我們的半導體電子設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
10624.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
10626.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
這個德國牌台灣設計的電動車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
10628.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
10630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
絕對會拼過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
10630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
10632.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
中國的電動車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
10632.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
10634.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
國中你知不知道中國的電動車現在一台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
10634.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
10636.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
在中國不多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
10636.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
10638.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
他們的價錢其實蠻低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
10638.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
10639.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
也銷到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
10639.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
10640.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
十萬台幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
10641.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
10643.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
一台十萬台幣請你開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
10643.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
10645.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
中國電動車介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
10648.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
10650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
那是違反世界貿易組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
10650.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
10652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
你如果根據世界貿易組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
10652.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
10654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
你是要議題適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
10654.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
10656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
讓中國電動車進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
10656.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
10658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
我請問我們台灣的車業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
10658.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
10660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
什麼人說的到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
10660.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
10662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
一台十萬台幣電動車 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
10662.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
10664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
還不停在南京走到海上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
10664.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
10666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
中國大陸的整車沒有同意進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
10666.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
10668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
那是違反世界貿易組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
10668.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
10670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
南京的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
10670.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
10672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
我給部長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
10672.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
10674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
所以說各位今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
10674.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
10676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
交易聽到發起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
10676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
10678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
10677.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
10679.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
所以各位我說的是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
10679.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
10681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
民進黨你如果要執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
10681.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
10683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
你這個政權不能丟下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
10683.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
10685.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
拜託謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
10684.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
10686.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
10685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
10687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
好謝謝許中信委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
10687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
10689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
我們接下來請陳奕臻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
10701.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
10703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
10703.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
10705.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
我們請這個官務署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
10705.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
10707.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
部長休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
10707.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
10709.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
請官務署彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
10711.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
10713.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
10712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
10714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
10714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
10716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
你知道小三通的這個碼頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
10716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
10718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
當然還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
10718.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
10720.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
機場不歸你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
10720.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
10722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
不管是客運碼頭還是貨運碼頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
10722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
10724.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
那整個我們小三通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
10724.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
10726.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
新的碼頭又成立以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
10726.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
10728.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
整個的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
10728.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
10730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
客運的流量暴漲很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
10730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
10732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
10732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
10734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
是報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
10734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
10736.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
我們有掌握一些數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
10736.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
10738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
的確是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
10738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
10740.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
我們這個小三通碼頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
10740.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
10742.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
我查過我們的相關數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
10742.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
10744.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
我們金門現在是隸屬高雄關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
10744.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
10746.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
那115年上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
10746.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
10748.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
上半年在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
10748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
10750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
水頭碼頭金門水頭碼頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
10750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
10752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
通關人數已經突破108萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
10752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
10754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
10754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
10756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
那你看基隆關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
10756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
10758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
我們來看基隆關是54萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
10759.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
10761.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
我們是基隆關的兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
10761.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
10763.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
你知道吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
10763.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
10765.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
台中關呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
10765.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
10767.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
台中港還有航空站 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
10767.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
10769.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
出國的114萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
10769.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
10771.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
就是金門小三通碼頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
10771.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
10773.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
的這個通關人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
10773.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
10775.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
基本上跟台中關是一樣多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
10775.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
10777.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
這個數據你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
10776.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
10778.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
10778.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
10780.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
我們現在的這個金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
10780.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
10782.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
是屬於隸屬高雄關下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
10783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
10785.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
那這個人員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
10786.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
10788.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
目前金門那邊派駐的海關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
10788.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
10790.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
大概是36人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
10791.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
10793.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
36位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
10794.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
10796.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
總共編制人員多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
10797.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
10799.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
金門關派駐36位嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
10801.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
10803.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
是36位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
10805.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
10807.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
是客運還是貨運的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
10807.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
10809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
10809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
10811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
全部36位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
10811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
10813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
委員提到了這個可能是旅客的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
10813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
10815.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
10815.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
10817.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
我說的是客運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
10817.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
10819.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
貨運現在的貨運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
10819.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
10821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
金門港這個廖羅碼頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
10821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
10823.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
貨運的進出口量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
10823.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
10825.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
應該也是相當高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
10825.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
10827.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
那我們先來講不管客運或是貨運 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
10827.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
10829.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
你們這個在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
10829.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
10831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
整個金門水新的旅運道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
10831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
10833.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
你也去過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
10833.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
10835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
我去的時候還沒有開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
10835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
10837.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
我們下個禮拜就要做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
10837.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
10839.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
開始一個城儀式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
10839.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
10841.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
已經開始營運了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
10841.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
10843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
但是它比原來的這個新道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
10843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
10845.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
比原來的旅客中心大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
10845.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
10847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
多了大概3.5倍的這個面積 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
10847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
10849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
那最近你有沒有常看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
10849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
10851.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
很多新聞啊包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
10851.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
10853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
隨身帶什麼小動物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
10853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
10855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
或者攜帶可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
10855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
10857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
毒品啊什麼這一類新聞最近都有吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
10858.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
10860.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
有看到這一類的新聞嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
10860.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
10862.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
10862.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
10864.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
所以你不會覺得你們我們金門關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
10864.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
10866.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
就是高雄關派駐在金門的是屬於一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
10866.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
10868.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
客嘛對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
10868.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
10870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
這個客的人loading太重了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
10870.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
10872.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
是一個客 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
10872.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
10874.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
一個客啦我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
10875.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
10877.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
低限的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
10877.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
10879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
我們原則上都是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
10879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
10881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
優先優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
10881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
10883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
一定要補足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
10883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
10885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
你不會覺得現在整個loading非常重嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
10885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
10887.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
負擔壓力很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
10887.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
10889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
尤其貨物也很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
10889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
10891.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
然後這也是一個國門嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
10891.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
10893.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
那它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
10892.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
10894.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
客運來講跟台中是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
10894.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
10896.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
但它的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
10896.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
10898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
就是你的人數你的官員各方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
10898.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
10900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
比不上台中的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
10900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
10902.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
編制嘛我們事實上比基隆關的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
10902.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
10904.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
進出的那個貨的人還多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
10904.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
10906.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
進出的人還多嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
10906.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
10908.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
那所以你不會覺得當地實在是負擔太大嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
10908.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
10910.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
這樣而且他們還要休息嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
10910.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
10912.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
休假回台灣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
10912.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
10914.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
是不是那這樣子這個關卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
10914.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
10916.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
怎麼守呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
10916.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
10918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
是就特別感謝委員對海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
10918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
10920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
人力不足這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
10920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
10922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
一直關切啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
10922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
10924.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
海關的loading很重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
10924.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
10926.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
我們人力不足的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
10926.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
10928.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
我們目前都有在盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
10928.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
10930.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
各關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
10930.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
10932.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
情況然後我們會跟人種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
10932.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
10934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
那邊來提出一些海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
10934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
10936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
好那你針對金門關的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
10936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
10938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
你有做出怎麼樣相對應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
10938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
10940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
的這個的做法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
10940.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
10942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
目前基隆關這邊金門的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
10942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
10944.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
我們現在移環 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
10944.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
10946.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
計集啦就是說有缺 |
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的部分像今年我們就補 |
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了兩個就是說官員 |
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少了兩個我們先用約聘 |
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10954.92 |
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顧人力就即時來補足啦 |
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10954.92 |
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10956.92 |
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那未來還是會 |
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10958.92 |
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試整個人力的因為海關 |
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10960.92 |
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是一個這個工作是很重要的嘛 |
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10962.92 |
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約聘只是協助嘛它不是 |
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10962.92 |
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10964.92 |
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真正可以執行很多這個公務的行為 |
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可能做一些 |
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10966.69 |
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10968.69 |
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協助啦那你金門關的人員 |
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10968.69 |
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10970.69 |
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事實上是很不夠的你不覺得嗎 |
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是那他跑 |
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10972.69 |
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10974.69 |
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兩個地方水頭馬頭跟料 |
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10974.69 |
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10976.69 |
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算也是在金門算是距離 |
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10976.69 |
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10978.69 |
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最遠的兩個地方嘛是那你這個 |
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10978.69 |
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10980.69 |
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人力的編制有沒有打算跟我們金門關 |
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10980.69 |
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10982.69 |
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再多編一點的呢 |
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10984.69 |
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我們會檢討啦那也跟 |
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10984.69 |
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10986.69 |
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委員報告我們現在 |
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10986.69 |
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10988.69 |
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是人力缺額的部分我們必須 |
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10988.69 |
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10990.69 |
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要靠官務特考考進 |
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10990.69 |
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10992.69 |
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來之後我們要受訓今年的話 |
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10992.69 |
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10994.69 |
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我們九月的時候會 |
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10994.69 |
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10996.69 |
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新進的一批海關 |
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10996.69 |
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10998.69 |
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官員會投入到 |
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10998.69 |
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11000.69 |
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整個茶氣的行列裡面 |
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11001.96 |
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11003.96 |
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我針對金門關 |
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11003.96 |
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11005.96 |
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第一個你人力不足的部分 |
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11005.96 |
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11007.96 |
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如果不夠真的不夠 |
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11007.96 |
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11009.96 |
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短期內我當然OK你要什麼編 |
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11009.96 |
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11011.96 |
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約聘僱啦這一類的人來協助 |
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11011.96 |
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11013.96 |
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但長期這個人力 |
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11013.96 |
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11015.96 |
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不足的事情還是要解決嘛 |
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11015.96 |
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11017.96 |
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就是說是不是整個組織 |
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11017.96 |
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11019.96 |
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的部分金門關是不是可以幫 |
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11021.96 |
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我們提升呢 |
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11021.96 |
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11023.96 |
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他的地位在提升因為他現在是高雄關 |
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11023.96 |
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11025.96 |
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事實上也沒有那麼方便 |
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而且他的這個 |
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11027.96 |
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11029.96 |
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人流物流事實上也是蠻大的 |
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11029.96 |
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11031.96 |
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現在貨物也好 |
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11031.96 |
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11033.96 |
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貨物也好在就是 |
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11033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
兩岸之間的錯誤 |
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11035.96 |
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11037.96 |
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然後這個人流 |
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11038.34 |
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11040.34 |
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這個大概小山東的旅客大概還是不會停 |
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11040.34 |
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11042.34 |
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還會繼續增加嘛 |
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11042.34 |
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11044.34 |
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除非你們就打算說 |
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11044.34 |
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11046.34 |
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就讓那個關卡比較 |
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11046.34 |
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11048.34 |
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鬆啊鬆散不會不會 |
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11048.34 |
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11050.34 |
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跟委員報告 |
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11050.34 |
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11052.34 |
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跟委員報告金門 |
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11052.34 |
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11054.34 |
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這部分因為小山東人數最多 |
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11054.34 |
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11056.34 |
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的部分 |
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11056.34 |
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11058.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
這個人力的部分我們一定會優先 |
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11058.34 |
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11060.34 |
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補足 |
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11060.34 |
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11062.34 |
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回答到現在沒有告訴你要補多少人 |
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11062.34 |
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11064.34 |
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然後你整個組織編制有沒有打算幫 |
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11064.34 |
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11066.34 |
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金門關提高他的地位啊 |
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11066.81 |
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11068.81 |
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那這樣子編制才會多嘛 |
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11068.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11070.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
那如果我也跟您提過 |
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11070.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11072.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
如果是人事總處那邊有意見 |
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11072.81 |
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11074.81 |
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我們看我們明天明天可以做什麼寫 |
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11074.81 |
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11076.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
我們也可以 |
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11076.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11078.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
一起請人事總處來開會的確 |
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11078.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11080.81 |
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現場就是人不足 |
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11080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
loading非常的重嘛 |
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11083.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11085.38 |
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了解那這部分我們會來規劃啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11085.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11087.38 |
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是 |
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11087.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11089.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
但是因為這個整個編制 |
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11089.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11091.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
擴大的問題會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11091.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11093.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
整個組織編制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11093.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11095.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
問題這個可能知識比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11095.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11097.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
現在政府 |
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11096.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11098.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
海關這個部分如果你組織不擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11098.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11100.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
現在政府給你這麼多的這個任務 |
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11100.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11102.47 |
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不只是以金門來講這個 |
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11102.47 |
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11104.47 |
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人的部分啊貨的部分還有 |
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11104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
包括進口的很多啊之前說馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
還有一顆顆戳查對不對 |
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11108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
進口的東西要檢查有一些進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
我們就不要再說什麼黃豆這一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11114.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
的事情就這麼多東西你們人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11114.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
都不足的情況下那個後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11118.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
後端這個整個社會成本 |
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11118.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11120.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
會付出很多所以這個你 |
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11120.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11122.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
你事實上應該要大力的爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11123.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11125.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
一定會的我們都已經團結過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11125.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11127.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
講很久啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11126.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11128.53 |
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好我跟你說來短期內 |
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11129.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11131.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
一個禮拜可以給我嗎 |
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11131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
就是金門小山通海關能源這個配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
你看到到底怎麼樣怎麼樣加派人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11135.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
輪調的支援機制 |
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11137.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
然後你三個月內給我一個深格成立 |
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11139.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
金門分關的可行性的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11141.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
解決這個 |
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11143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11145.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
這麼多人但是讓他組織實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11145.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11147.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
就是 |
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11146.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11148.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
大人穿小孩的衣服那種那種處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11148.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11150.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
好嗎 |
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11150.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11152.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
短期的部分可不可以給我們兩個禮拜 |
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11152.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11154.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
的時間 |
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11154.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11156.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
謝謝 |
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11156.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11158.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
經濟部今天有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11160.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11162.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
請周副署長 |
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11164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
都沒有派沒有派個次長過來 |
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11166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
至少我們要問一下這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
林副署長知道金門在哪裡嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11170.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
我知道距離台灣多遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
但是我沒有去過你沒去過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
你出過國嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11176.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
有出過國沒有去過金門沒去過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
那經濟部怎麼樣制定對金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
有利的政策像這個產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
對這個金門的也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
非常的重要啊金門距離台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
大概是200公里 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
距離大陸大概是1公里 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11190.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11192.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
200公里 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11192.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11194.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
1 200公里 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11194.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
想看你們對經濟部對這個金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11198.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
這個產業發展有怎麼樣的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11198.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
因為我們產發署是主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
11200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
製造業那當然金門的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11204.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
製造業相對沒有那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11204.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11206.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
可是有很多在地的特色產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11206.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11208.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
我們產發署其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
11208.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11210.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
對金門的在地的特色產業其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11210.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11212.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
也做一些輔導的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
11212.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11214.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
過去陸陸續續有做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11214.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11216.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
我們這裡有幾個提供你參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
11216.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11218.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
就是金門雖然是外島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
11218.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11220.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
距離台灣這麼遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11220.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11222.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
但它距離中國大陸是很近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11222.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11224.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11224.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11226.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
我們基本產業當然是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11226.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11228.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
沒有那麼的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11228.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11230.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
但是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11230.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11232.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
在金門這個特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11232.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11234.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
這個位置事實上我們從國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11234.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11236.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
看到一些成功的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11236.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11238.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
在新加坡的羅佛和新加坡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11238.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11240.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
有一個經濟特區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11240.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11242.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
就是新加坡跟馬來西亞之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11242.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11244.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
這兩個主權獨立國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11244.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11246.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
是會共同的經濟利益來打造 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11246.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11248.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
一個互利的節點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11248.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11250.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
就是優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11250.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11252.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
佈局就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11252.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11254.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
去過吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11254.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11256.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
新加坡去過吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11256.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11258.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
羅佛在新加坡就馬來西亞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11258.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11260.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
南邊距離新加坡很近的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11260.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11262.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
這兩個國家簽訂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11262.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11264.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
相關的一些為了共同的經濟利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11264.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11266.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
做了一個羅佛跟新加坡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11266.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11268.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
經濟特區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11268.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11270.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
這個東西制度鬆綁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11270.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11272.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
所以我覺得我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11272.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11274.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
產發署也要幫我們思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11274.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11276.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
這個制度的鬆綁通關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11276.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11278.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
這個鬆綁可以帶來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11278.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11280.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
邊境有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11280.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11282.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
可以帶來很大的經濟活力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11282.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11284.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
那針對這個以下幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11284.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11286.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
請你們去幫我們思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11286.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11288.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
第一個就是在物流的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11288.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11290.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
這個製造業物流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11290.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
基本現在是一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
物流的這個港口 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
在兩岸之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11298.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
海關總署當然知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11298.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11300.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
那經濟部如果不知道的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11300.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11302.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
可能要多費一點心力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11302.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
跨境電商的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
數位金融低碳人員低碳人員是環境部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11308.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
所以對於智慧人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11308.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11310.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
智慧物流的部分還有跨境電商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11310.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11312.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
這應該跟你們經濟部比較有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11313.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11315.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
是物流跟電商的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11315.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11317.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
幫我們研議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11317.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11319.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
下列這個四個組 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11319.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11321.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
其中兩個是你們跨境電商跟智慧物流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11321.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11323.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
幫我們研究一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11323.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11325.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
這個金門經濟發展試點的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11325.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11327.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
讓它從一個外導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11327.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11329.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
可以變成一個節點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11329.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
是不是可以給我們一份報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
好我們稀罕研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11333.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11335.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
我們帶回去研究因為是我們商業署的主政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11335.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
我知道因為本來想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11339.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
今天市長會來好那什麼時候給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11340.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11342.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
可不可以委員給我們三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11343.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11345.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11344.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11346.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
兩個月好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11348.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11352.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
希望兩個月之內有機會讓副署長去金門走一走 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11354.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11356.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
好不然我們就辦一次考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11356.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11358.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
也邀請紀委會一起去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11358.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11360.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
來我們結束陳玉真委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11360.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11362.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
接下來請羅明柴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11370.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11372.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
主席二人出列席官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11372.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11374.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
最後請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11375.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11377.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
雙部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11376.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11378.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
還有國務署彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11379.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11381.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
中部長彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11382.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11384.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11384.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11386.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11387.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11389.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
總理好你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11389.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11391.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
時間過得很快啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11391.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11393.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
快到中午了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
我記得以前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
大概幾十年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
在這邊中午的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
就雖然開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
但也算開開心心的吃午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
有胡曲漳便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
有台鐵的便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
還有青島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11412.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
最著名的雞腿便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11412.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11414.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
你喜歡吃哪一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
我很久沒有吃便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
在這邊吃便當了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
你有沒有覺得我現在也 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
民視都齊順順 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11425.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11427.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
我要出去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11427.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11429.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
在立法院開會也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11429.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11431.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
以前還有多樣性的選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11432.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11434.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
現在只有一種選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11434.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11436.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11436.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11438.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
燙青菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11438.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11440.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
上面用導油鍋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11440.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11442.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
蒜蓉導油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11442.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11444.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
然後玉米都是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11444.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11446.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
只要碰到毒油的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11447.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11449.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
陰影什麼都不敢吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11450.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11452.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11452.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11454.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
這個油的事情啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11454.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
到現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11458.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
水落石出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11458.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
國人可以安心的吃飯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11461.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11463.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
光務署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11463.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11465.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
過去在非洲豬瘟的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11465.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11467.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
扮演了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11467.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11469.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11470.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11472.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
境外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11472.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11474.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
鄭國神山的一個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11474.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11476.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
每一隻豬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11476.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11478.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
死豬什麼豬進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11478.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11480.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
通通在境外就攔截 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11480.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11482.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
所以台灣這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11482.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11484.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
好像沒有非洲豬瘟了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
我們對於這個豬肉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
非常的嚴格的查緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
光務署非常的嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
那在去年吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
去年曾經在台中有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
那也在防疫上做了相當的徹底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
有一小段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
整體的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
整體還是不錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
那現在的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
那油呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
為什麼油在光務署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
你沒有辦法在前面要進來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11514.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
全面就把它擋住 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11514.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
那我已經說的很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
第一個就是說這個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
在進口的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11522.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
他後續的產製的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11522.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
自己調整了相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
規律然後後面產製的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11528.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
又沒有做好相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11528.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
一些應該要做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
那這個部分說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
那海關這個部分對於進口的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
比如說黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
他們都必須要經過相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
檢驗以後也就是由食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
跟防檢局檢驗以後海關才會放行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
所以這有不同的職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
海關有海關的職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
檢疫機關有檢疫機關的職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11550.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
所以海關也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11550.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11552.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
有一個他的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11552.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11554.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
在那個地方啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11554.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11556.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
就工作分配上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11556.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11558.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
那我請問一下彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11557.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11559.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11561.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
截至目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11561.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11563.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
國內的油到底有沒有毒啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11563.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11565.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
那不能吃啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11566.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11568.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
我都有在吃啊報告委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11568.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11570.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
你都在吃我吃到不敢吃了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11570.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11572.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
有人說已經四個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11572.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11574.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11574.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11576.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
還有提到說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11576.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11578.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
其實四年前就發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11578.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11580.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
這個毒油的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11580.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
11582.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
通通蓋牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
11583.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
11585.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
那署長你身為第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
11585.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
11587.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
的從業人員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
11587.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
11589.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
當然我知道責任不在你們啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
11589.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
11591.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
就主要是另外兩個其他的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
11591.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
11593.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
你不會想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
11594.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
11596.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
對於自己安全健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
11596.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
11598.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
會有很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
11598.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
11600.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
11600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
11602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
你們家有沒有家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
11602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
11604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
11604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
11606.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
你家裡有家人有沒有小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
11606.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
11608.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
11609.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
11611.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
不會在每天在外食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
11611.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
11613.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
吃便當的時候想到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
11613.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
11615.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
11615.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
11617.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
那家裡的小孩如果每天都是吃這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
11617.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
11619.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
毒食毒油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
11619.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
11621.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
會影響到他們一輩子的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
11621.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
11623.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
11623.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
11625.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
你不會怕嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
11625.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
11627.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
報告委員那政府機關對於食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
11627.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
11629.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
一定會落實去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
11629.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
11631.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
嚴格的執行這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
11631.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
11633.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
不會妥協的事情啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
11632.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
11634.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
是你講的很漂亮啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
11634.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
11636.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
可是你能保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
11636.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
11638.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
我們現在外面沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
11638.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
11640.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
燉吃午餐在外食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
11640.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
11642.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
足可以吃的都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
11642.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
11644.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
沒問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
11644.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
11646.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
就是今天我在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
11646.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
11648.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
11648.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
11650.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
這些美食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
11650.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
11652.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
或到路邊攤去吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
11652.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
11654.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
你可以保證我不會吃到毒油嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
11656.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
11658.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
11657.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
11659.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
11661.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
11663.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
11663.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
11665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
要我保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
11665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
11667.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
11667.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
11669.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
你不能保證可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
11669.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
11671.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
大家都覺得你是海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
11671.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
11673.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
第一線你如果都攔截下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
11673.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
11675.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
就不會有毒油流進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
11675.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
11677.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
11677.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
11679.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
這次毒油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
11679.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
11681.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
事件應該不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
11681.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
11683.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
發生在進口端的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
11683.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
11685.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
據衛福部他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
11685.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
11687.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
調查報告應該是在製程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
11687.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
11689.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
製程喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
11689.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
11691.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
第一天開始就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
11691.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
11693.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
11692.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
11694.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
隨便甩鍋給巴西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
11695.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
11697.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
巴西的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
11698.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
11700.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
其二也不是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
11700.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
11702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
現在有此一說是製程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
11702.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
11704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
11704.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
11706.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
因為國內的有進來就是兩中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
11707.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
11709.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
11709.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
11711.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
一個是大同意嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
11711.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
11713.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
佔百分之多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
11711.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
11713.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
來那個金布之道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
11714.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
11716.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
跟委員報告百分之五十 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
11716.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
11718.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
五十 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
11718.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
11720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
11720.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
11722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
百分之三十五 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
11722.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
11724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
那你應該進來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
11724.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
11726.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
源頭就把它管制好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
11726.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
11728.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
結果現在他剛講說是製程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
11728.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
11730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
11730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
11732.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
兩個製程不一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
11732.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
11734.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
跟委員報告這個當然從美國跟巴西的大豆來源不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
11734.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
11736.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
他的品質也不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
11736.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
11738.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
但是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
11738.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
11740.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
雖然不同但是可以透過製程的方式來去做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
11740.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
11742.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
11742.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
11744.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
針對昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
11744.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
11746.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
衛福部食藥署的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
11746.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
11748.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
是針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
11748.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
11750.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
不管是豆子的來源也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
11750.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
11752.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
或者是這個製程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
11752.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
11754.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
其實都有一些他相關的問題存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
11754.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
11756.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
對齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
11756.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
11758.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
那我們就從那個製程來說好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
11758.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
11760.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
大同意他用的是法國的機器 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
11760.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
11762.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
所以他是用真空抽取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
11762.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
11764.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
11764.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
11766.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
現在問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
11766.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
11768.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
出在中聯的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
11769.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
11771.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
他占了市場百分之三十五趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
11771.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
11773.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
但是你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
11773.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
11775.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
以前我們都講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
11775.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
11777.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
四金黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
11777.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
11779.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
四金黃豆換金油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
11779.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
11781.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
結果他現在因為公益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
11781.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
11783.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
11783.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
11785.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
投機取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
11785.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
11787.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
變成三金的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
11787.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
11789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
就要炸出一金的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
11789.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
11791.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
問題出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
11793.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
11795.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
大豆其實是會酸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
11796.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
11798.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
那酸他為了要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
11799.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
11801.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
省成本啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
11801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
11803.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
就加入了化學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
11803.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
11805.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
鹼性酸鹼中和 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
11805.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
11807.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
中和 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
11807.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
11809.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
所以那個漏斗下來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
11809.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
11811.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
中和了以後可能百分之五 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
11811.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
11813.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
還是百分之十的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
11813.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
11815.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
他就把它漏掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
11815.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
11817.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
可是為什麼三金的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
11817.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
11819.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
變一金的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
11818.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
11820.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
就是很簡單嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
11820.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
11822.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
減多加一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
11822.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
11824.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
減性啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
11824.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
11826.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
這些化學品多加了一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
11826.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
11828.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
所以變成加了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
11828.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
11830.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
改變你稍微有狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
11831.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
11833.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
那個毒油的本篇皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
11833.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
11835.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
就跑出來了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
11835.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
11837.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
你可能比較清楚啊是不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
11838.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
11840.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
跟委員報告這個這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
11840.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
11842.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
並沒有那麼清楚因為整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
11842.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
11844.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
整個調查報告是由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
11844.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
11846.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
衛福部這邊來負責那檢調也 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
11846.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
11848.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
已經進入了所以我們經濟部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
11848.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
11850.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
是沒有進到場內去做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
11851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
11853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
好啦我覺得你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
11853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
11855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
大家速度要快一點到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
11856.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
11858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
時不安心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
11858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
11860.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
現在很多外國的朋友以前都台灣是美食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
11860.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
11862.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
美食王國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
11862.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
11864.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
現在進來也不敢吃啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
11865.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
11867.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
你看那個黃人勳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
11867.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
11869.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
最近都沒有去夜市啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
11870.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
11872.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
拆了蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
11871.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
11873.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
吃吃的還對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
11873.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
11875.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
雞排也不能吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
11875.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
11877.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
害我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
11877.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
11879.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
現在如果再這一萬點沒一萬點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
11879.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
11881.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
我們再吃雞排我現在想的都想要吐出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
11884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
11886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
真的啊這個食品安全的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
11886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
11888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
人人有責啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
11888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
11890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
經濟部也想想辦法啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
11890.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
11892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
你們幫幫忙嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
11892.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
11894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
你們要有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
11894.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
11896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
製造的過程啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
11896.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
11898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
去了解一下看看是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
11898.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
11900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
11900.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
11902.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
那另外再請一下莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
11903.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
11905.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
那也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
11905.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
11907.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
我在這個市是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
11906.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
11908.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
莊部長沒有直接的關係啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
11908.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
11910.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
但我就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
11910.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
11912.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
海關的部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
11912.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
11914.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
11913.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
11915.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
有沒有辦法來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
11915.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
11917.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
來源的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
11917.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
11919.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
最近要多加強管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
11919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
11921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
海關他有他的職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
11921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
11923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
當然他也會根據各個貨品的主管機關的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
11923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
11925.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
然後由各主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
11925.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
11927.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
該查驗的查驗該檢疫的檢疫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
11927.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
11929.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
不合規定的海關就不會放行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
11929.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
11931.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
上次說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
11931.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
11933.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
發芽的馬鈴薯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
11933.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
11935.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
要一顆一顆檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
11935.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
11937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
現在真的有這樣檢查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
11937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
11939.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
這個部分應該是屬於農業部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
11939.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
11941.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
這邊在做處理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
11941.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
11943.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
是在農業部那邊做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
11943.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
11945.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
農業部都跟海關沒關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
11945.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
11947.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
進來不都是海關第一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
11947.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
11949.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
各有分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
11950.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
11954.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
好啦你們能提供一些多年的寶貴經驗喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
11954.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
11956.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
站在國民的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
11956.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
11958.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
你們一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
11958.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
11960.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
酸請羅司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
11960.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
11962.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
然後多多給予 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
11962.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
11964.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
建言好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
11964.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
11966.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
是的謝謝委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
11965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
11967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
另外一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
11967.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
11969.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
看到最近的股市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
11971.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
11973.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
暴起暴落 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
11973.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
11975.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
那最近一直跌啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
11975.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
11977.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
今天好像跌破四萬點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
11977.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
11979.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
部長為什麼股市會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
11979.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
11981.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
跌跌不休啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
11982.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
11984.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
因為美股 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
11984.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
11986.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
還有日韓股也都下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
11986.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
11988.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
然後對有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
11988.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
11990.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
不確定的預期所以會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
11990.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
11992.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
下跌的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
11992.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
11994.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
我覺得台灣的股市也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
11994.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
11996.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
韓國的股市也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
11997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
11999.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
最後大概都是變成割韭菜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12000.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12002.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
因為我大概十幾天前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12002.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12004.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
就美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12004.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12006.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
華爾街的那個消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12007.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12009.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
他們就偷偷有個訊息說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12009.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12011.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
全部要賣股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12012.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12014.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
而且他們這個一致性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12015.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12017.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
你們發現一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12017.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12019.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
股市的上漲下跌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12019.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12021.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
這一次的歷史經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12021.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12023.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
真正發動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12023.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12025.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
炒股的是美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12025.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12027.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
美國的聲音你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12028.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12030.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
我是一樣跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12034 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12036 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
好謝謝我們結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12036 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12038 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
羅明財委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12038 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12040 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
接下來蘇星權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12040 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12042 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
蘇星權蘇星權委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12042 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12044 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
接下來請楊瓊英委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12057.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12059.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
謝謝主席楊瓊發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12059.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12061.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
邀請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12061.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12063.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12066.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12068.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12067.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12071.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
部長我們最近的陳情案件很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12071.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12073.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
我們也看到媒體報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12073.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12076.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
國稅局也碰到這樣子的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12076.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12079.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
收到欠稅通知才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12079.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12081.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
自己是繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12081.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
包括稅務局也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12087.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
很多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12087.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12089.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
都是這樣子去碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12089.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12091.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
既然我們是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12091.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
有為的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12095.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
更應當要解決目前的社會面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12095.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12097.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
我也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12097.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12099.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
實務上發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12099.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12101.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
他是順位繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12101.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12103.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
他全數去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12103.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12105.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
拋棄繼承之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12105.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
有很多是長年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12107.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12109.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
他並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12109.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12111.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
跟這個被繼承人他有來往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12111.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12113.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
他是第三順位的繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12113.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12115.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
他必須要等到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12115.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12117.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
寄單紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12117.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12119.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
他收到欠稅通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12119.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12121.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
或者是使用牌照稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12121.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12123.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
的一個繳款書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12123.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12125.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
他才驚覺的發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12125.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12127.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
我竟然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12127.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12129.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
這個法定的繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12129.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12131.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
目前碰到有很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12131.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12133.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
這樣的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12133.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12135.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
甚至也因為如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12135.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12137.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
而讓他在這個法定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12137.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12139.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
三個月的拋棄權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12139.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12141.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
他已經錯失了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12141.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12143.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
所以這個被繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12143.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12145.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
死亡之後他的名下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12145.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12147.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
這個車輛他仍舊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12147.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12149.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
還是在領牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12149.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
所以後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12151.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12153.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
這個開徵的使用牌照稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12153.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12155.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
他必須是要由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12155.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12157.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
繼承人去做負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12157.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12159.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
甚至也可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12159.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12161.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
移送這個行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12161.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12163.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12163.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12165.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
所以當人民在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12165.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12167.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12167.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12169.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
催款通知書 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12169.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12171.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
才知道自己本身在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12171.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12173.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
法律的地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12173.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12175.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
已經是改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12175.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12177.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
那我們就反映了相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12177.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12179.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12179.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
跨機關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12183.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
的訊息通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12183.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12185.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
跟權益告知機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12185.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
他有所斷點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12189.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
有所不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12189.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12191.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
所以讓民眾在不知情的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12191.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
他必須要去承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12195.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
這個法律的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12195.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12197.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
所以要跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12197.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
來討論 既然他已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12201.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
成為一個機關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12201.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12203.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
經常碰到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12203.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
也是一個社會所產生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
面向情境跟問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
那麼是不是應該要全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12211.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12211.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12213.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12213.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12215.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
現行的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12215.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12217.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
欠稅跟繼承案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12217.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12219.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
通知的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12219.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12221.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
我們是不是要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12221.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12223.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
跨單位的一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12223.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12225.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12225.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12227.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12227.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12229.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
委員提出這樣的一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12229.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12231.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
也就是委員的重點應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12231.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
前面順位的繼承都拋棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12233.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
繼承了 但是後順位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12235.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12237.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
的人卻不知道 他不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12237.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12239.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
因為沒有來往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12239.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12241.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
然後就收到有關要繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12241.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12243.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
的一些通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12243.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12245.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
我想這個部分如果是 林委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12245.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12247.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
有很多 我們來了解一下看看在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12247.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12249.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
機制上能不能有一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12249.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12251.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
看看讓民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12251.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
可以有一個比較合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12255.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
權益上的一個維護 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12255.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
所以部長 這個也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12257.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12259.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
因為在末端你們收稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12259.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
已經碰到這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12261.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
所以就是整個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12263.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
繼承案件的通知機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12265.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12267.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
因為人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12267.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12269.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
他有這個權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12269.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12271.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
法定三個月我可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12271.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12273.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
去做拋棄 但是我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12273.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
不知情啊 因為我跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
這個繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
他沒有來往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
他不知道他已經拋棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12281.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12283.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
他沒有辦法不可考啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12283.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12285.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
除非他去問他 但是他沒有來往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12285.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12287.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
沒有辦法問 只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12287.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12289.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
唯一等到收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12289.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12291.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
稅單 他才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12291.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12293.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
我的法律位階 法律地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12293.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12295.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
我改變了 我是繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12295.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12297.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
那這個已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12297.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12299.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
人民的生活當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12299.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12301.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
很頻繁的碰到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12301.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12303.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
所以我具體要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12303.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12305.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
是不是你們應該跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12305.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12307.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
戶政啊 法院啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12307.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12309.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
交通部啊 財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12309.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12311.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
跨部會的去研討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12311.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12313.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
建立一個繼承案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12313.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12315.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
這個通知機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12315.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12317.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
讓人民基本的一個權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12317.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12319.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
能夠得到一個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12322.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12324.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
也謝謝委員提這樣的一個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12324.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12326.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
那也希望委員能夠把手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12326.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12328.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
有關的個案也提供給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12328.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12330.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
然後我們一起來做這方面的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12330.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12332.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
這個已經是媒體已經披露的 我還要提供你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12332.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12334.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
這個 所以這個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12334.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12336.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
你們去研議好不好 怎麼樣讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12336.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12338.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
大家不會因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12338.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12340.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
不知 而變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12340.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12342.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
是一個法律的風險人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12342.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12344.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
好不好 你們去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12344.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12346.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
謝謝 謝謝委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12346.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12348.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
好 謝謝我們結束楊瓊英 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12348.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12350.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
委員的質詢 我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12350.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12352.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
發言的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12352.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12354.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
對不起 來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12354.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12356.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
林健祺 林健祺 林健祺委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12356.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12358.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
葉原之 葉原之 葉原之委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12358.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12360.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
我們今天 |
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12360.53 |
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登記發言的委員均 |
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已詢答完畢 |
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本日會議做如下的決議 |
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說明及詢答完畢 |
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委員質詢未及答覆 |
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或請補充資訊 |
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請財政部在一周之內 |
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以書面答覆 |
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委員另要求其憲者 |
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重啟鎖定 |
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第三 有關海關進口 |
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稅則部分修正草案 |
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7案 均 |
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另擇其繼續審查 |
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本日會議議程已進行完畢 |
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尚有不在場的委員 |
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補提書面質詢 |
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一併列入記錄刊登公報 |
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並請議事人員 |
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協助處理 我們今天散會 |
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大家辛苦了 謝謝 |
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