| IVOD_ID |
17620 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17620 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-27T10:00:15+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-27T15:53:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
05:52:45 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/3832c314c43c373d736c27b13f6e97370e1d510daad21019b5b204f4a37948b9bacfcb9031fea86d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-27T13:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查
(一) 委員范雲等16人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(二) 委員馬文君等17人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(三) 委員魯明哲等24人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(四) 委員王育敏等17人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(五) 委員洪孟楷等20人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(六) 委員黃健豪等20人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(七) 委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「學校供餐條例草案」案。
(八) 委員林倩綺等21人擬具「學校午餐及營養促進條例草案」案。
(九) 委員鍾佳濱等17人擬具「學校午餐法草案」案。
(十) 委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育法草案」案。
(十一) 委員張雅琳等17人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育法草案」案。
(十二) 委員柯志恩等21人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(十三) 委員陳培瑜等26人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(十四) 台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「高級中等以下學校及幼兒園午餐供餐法草案」案。
(十五) 委員王鴻薇等20人擬具「學校飲食健康促進法草案」案。
(十六) 委員葉元之等20人擬具「學校飲食健康促進法草案」案。
(十七) 委員陳秀寳等20人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案。
(十八) 委員林宜瑾等33人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案。
(十九) 委員劉建國等17人擬具「學校飲食教育法草案」案。
(二十) 委員徐巧芯等19人擬具「學校營養飲食供餐法草案」案。
(二十一) 委員邱鎮軍等25人擬具「高級中等以下學校供餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(二十二) 委員羅廷瑋等20人擬具「高級中等以下學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(二十三) 委員萬美玲等19人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案。
(二十四) 委員葛如鈞等17人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案。
(二十五) 委員吳沛憶等20人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育促進法草案」案。
(二十六) 委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案。
(二十七) 委員王美惠等19人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案。
(二十八) 委員陳菁徽等22人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案。
(二十九) 委員許宇甄等23人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案。
(三十) 委員張嘉郡等19人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案。
(三十一) 委員李彥秀等16人擬具「學校營養午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(三十二) 委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「高級中等以下學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(三十三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等18人擬具「學校供餐及飲食教育條例草案」案。
(三十四) 委員林月琴等29人擬具「學校供餐及飲食教育法草案」案。
(三十五) 委員游顥等17人擬具「學校營養午餐及食品安全衛生管理法草案」案。
(………因系統字數上限，詳見議事日程)） |
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好報告委員會 主席委員已足法定人數 |
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現在開會 |
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2797.11 |
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首先進行報告事項 請醫師為人宣讀上次會議思路 |
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另外 第十一屆第五會期 教育局文化委員會 |
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2801.35 |
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2804.11 |
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第22次全體委員會議 以思路時間 |
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2804.11 |
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2806.07 |
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中華民國1月15日 7月27日 |
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2806.07 |
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2808.63 |
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上午九十二分之九十四十七分 |
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2808.63 |
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2810.79 |
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地點本縣勤儉樓101會議室 |
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2811.39 |
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2813.31 |
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主席委員羅志強委員等11人 |
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2813.31 |
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2815.63 |
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類席委員曾振權委員等6人 |
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2815.63 |
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2818.67 |
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類席人員教育部部長鄭義耀等人 |
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2818.67 |
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2820.59 |
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主席羅昭吉委員庭委 |
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2820.87 |
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2821.55 |
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報告事項 |
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2822.94 |
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2825.46 |
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宣讀上次會議議事錄 決定議事錄確定 |
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2825.46 |
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2826.34 |
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討論事項 |
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2826.34 |
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2828.42 |
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繼續審查教育部含味修正 |
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2828.42 |
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2831.14 |
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高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘 |
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2831.14 |
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2834.86 |
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停聘或支援辦法 不問條文及公立 |
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2834.86 |
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2838.02 |
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高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法 |
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2838.02 |
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2840.22 |
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第五條 第六條之一條文案 |
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2840.82 |
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2843.18 |
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決議一 教育部含味修正 |
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2843.18 |
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2846.66 |
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高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘 |
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2846.66 |
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2849.22 |
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停聘或支援辦法 不問條文案 |
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2849.22 |
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2850.58 |
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本案審查完畢 |
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2850.58 |
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2852.38 |
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擬具審查報告連同 |
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2852.46 |
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2854.1 |
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通過之決議一項 |
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2854.1 |
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2855.7 |
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提報院會討論 |
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2855.7 |
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2857.38 |
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通知教育部更正 |
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2857.38 |
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2860.18 |
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不需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
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2860.18 |
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2862.5 |
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由羅昭吉委員庭委補充說明 |
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2862.5 |
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2863.78 |
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通過決議一項 |
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2863.78 |
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2865.78 |
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二 教育部含味修正 |
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2865.78 |
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2869.38 |
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公立高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法 |
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2869.38 |
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2871.62 |
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第五條 第六條之一條文案 |
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2871.62 |
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2873.26 |
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本案審查完畢 |
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2873.26 |
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2875.02 |
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擬具審查報告連同 |
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2875.02 |
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2876.22 |
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通過之決議一項 |
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2876.22 |
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2877.66 |
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提報院會討論 |
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2877.66 |
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2879.14 |
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通知教育部更正 |
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2879.14 |
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2882.34 |
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不需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
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2882.38 |
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2885.7 |
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由羅昭吉委員庭委補充說明 |
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2885.7 |
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2887.06 |
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通過決議一項 |
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2887.06 |
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2888.74 |
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通過提案一項 |
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2888.74 |
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2891.26 |
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經表決會通過附議案一案 |
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2891.26 |
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2892.26 |
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宣讀完畢 |
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2896.22 |
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2896.78 |
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好 |
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2897.47 |
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2898.87 |
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我們先確認醫師路 |
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2898.87 |
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2900.87 |
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請問上次會醫師路有錯過移動 |
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2905.72 |
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2906.56 |
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請問上次會醫師路有錯過移動 |
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2909.01 |
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2911.17 |
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主席因為我們今天9點的時候 |
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2911.17 |
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2913.25 |
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開的是22次會 |
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2913.25 |
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2916.05 |
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然後原先是下午的時候要開23次 |
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2916.05 |
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2917.49 |
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這是兩次會 |
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2917.49 |
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2919.93 |
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那現在10點不到50分 |
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2919.93 |
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2922.21 |
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我們再開的是23次會 |
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2922.21 |
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2923.05 |
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那醫院是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2923.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2924.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
那為什麼會做這樣改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2924.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2926.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
是因為剛剛在22次會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2926.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2929.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
有志強委員用臨時提案的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2929.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2932.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
來去變更了這個議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2932.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2933.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
那我還是要講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2933.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2936.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
這個因為按照我們委員會組織法 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2936.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
排這議程這個是輪值召委決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2940.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
所以基本上我們都是尊重召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2940.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
但是用這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2944.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
用臨時提案來去變更議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2944.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2947.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
這個真的是非常非常非常少會發生的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2947.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2949.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
非常非常少會發生的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2949.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
所以呢我還是必須要去提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2951.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2953.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
因為我希望說在我們教文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2953.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2956.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
其實可以盡量的去按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2956.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2959.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
很過往的這個很良好的理性討論的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2959.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2961.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
這些慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
2961.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2962.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
2963.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2964.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
用這樣子的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2964.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2966 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
其實真的是相當的罕見 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
2966 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2966.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
相當罕見 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2966.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2968.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
但是因為這個議事也已經通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2968.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2969.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
所以我們是尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
2969.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2971.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
那我提出來留下紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
2972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2975.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
好剛剛委員對於議程有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
2975.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
我們就是虛心指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2979.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
2979.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2980.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
那我們先處理議事錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
2980.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2983.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
那所以議事錄有無錯誤跟遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
2984.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
好沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2986.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
議事錄確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2987.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2991.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
順便也回應一下我們吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2991.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2994.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
非常感謝您非常理性的一個訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2994.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2995.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
本席聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2995.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2996.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
但也跟您特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2997.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
3000.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
本席有特別去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
3000.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
3000.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
過往 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
3001.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
3003.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
在立法院其他的委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
3003.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
3005.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
有沒有一日兩事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
3006.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
3007.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
3007.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
3009.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
經過調查是有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
3009.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
3013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
那有特別去調出相關的一個會議紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
3013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
3015.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
那會議如果委員有興趣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
3015.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
3016.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
我們也可以提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
3016.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
3017.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
那一日兩事會不是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
3017.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
3021.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
我是說用臨時提案的方式去辨證議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
3021.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
3022.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
這議事人員知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
3022.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
3024.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
這相當相當罕見 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
3024.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
3025.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
那因為有委員臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
3025.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
3026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
作為召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
3026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
3028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
我們不能不處以臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
3028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
3031.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
也希望說我們配委員可以體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
3031.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
3034.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
作為召委的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
3034.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
3035.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
這樣子的一個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
3035.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
3037.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
我有要執行的一個任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
3037.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
3038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
那待會 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
3038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
3039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
發言委員待會 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
3039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
3041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
您對於營養午餐的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
3041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
3041.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
3041.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
3042.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
待會一定會讓你充分發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
3042.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
3044.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
等我一下我把這個東西梳理完 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
3044.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
3045.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
3046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
3047.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
本次會議議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
3047.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
3051.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
繼續審查委員范雲等十六人 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
3051.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
3052.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
擬具學校公參法 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
3052.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
3053.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
草案事實案 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
3054.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
3056.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
委員廖偉祥等二十四人之提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
3058.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
3059.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
無不復議 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
3059.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
3060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
同意書 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
3061.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
3062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
不予審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
3063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
3065.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
首先介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
3065.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
3066.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
我們現場羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
3067.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
3069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
3069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
3070.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
3070.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
3071.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
蔡尊仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
3072.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
3073.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
范英委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
3073.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
3074.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
謝榮介委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
3076.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
3076.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
劉樹斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
3077.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
3078.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
柯志仁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
3079.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
3080.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
3081.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
3082.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
以及郭一新委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
3083.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
3083.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
3083.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
3084.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
葛如君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
3084.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
3086.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
接著介紹與會的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
3086.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
3087.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
教育部部長鄭英耀 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
3090.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
3091.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
國教署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
3091.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
3091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
彭富源 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
3093.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
3094.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
環境部化學署 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
3094.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
3095.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
主任秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
3095.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
3095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
倪秉雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
3096.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
3099.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
農業部農糧署副署長黃昭新 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
3103.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
3104.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
3105.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
3107.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
衛生福利部國民健康署研究人 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
3107.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
3108.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
麥陽俊 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
3110.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
3111.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
法務部專門委員邱黎芬 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
3112.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
3115.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
行政院主計總署公務預算處專務委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
3115.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
3116.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
張正輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
3117.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
3119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
其餘列席的機關代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
3119.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
3121.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
請參閱名單不在主意介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
3121.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
3122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
3125.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
3126.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
接著我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
3127.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
3129.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
進行法案的逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
3130.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
3132.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
討論時請參閱教育部提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
3132.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
3134.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
題彙討論版 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
3135.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
3137.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
書面資料並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
3137.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
3140.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
請機關代表到協商桌 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
3181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
3181.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
3182.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
3183.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
主席宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
3183.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
3186.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
繼續審查學校午餐及飲食教育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
3186.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
3188.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
相關草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
3188.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
3191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
本案經115年7月13日召開第五期 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
3192.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
3194.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
會期教育及文化委員會第十九次 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
3194.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
3196.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
全體委員會議審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
3196.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
3197.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
3197.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
3201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
含對應之個題案條文之修正動議保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
3201.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
3203.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
3203.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
3204.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
3204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
3205.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
3206.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
3209 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
現在繼續進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
3209.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
3210.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
從第五條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
3210.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
3212.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我們也非常感謝教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
3212.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
3213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
有提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
3214.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
3217.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
相關的版本建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
3217.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
3218.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
來讓我們來參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
3219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
3221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
那我們盡量還是以教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
3221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
3223.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
的這個建議文字來作為主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
3223.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
3225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
來做一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
3227.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
3228.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
好 那請 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
3228.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
3230.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
最關心一樣午餐法的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
3230.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
3231.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
范雲委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
3233.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
3234.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
好 我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
3235.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
3237.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
回來到這個教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
3237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
3239.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
那心情非常的沉重 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
3239.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
3241.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
我不知道為什麼教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
3241.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
3243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
今天會變成這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
3243.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
3247.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
剛剛吳沛委員的質疑非常的有正當性 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
3247.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
3249.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
那為什麼一個早上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
3249.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
3251.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
早上的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
3251.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
3254.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
把下午的議程用臨時變更的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
3254.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
3257.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
那如果本來準備下午要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
3257.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
3259.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
好好的審查營養午餐法的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
3259.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
3261.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
他不知道你變更了議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
3261.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
3263.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
他沒有看到外面的公告怎麼辦呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
3264.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
3265.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
那他的立委權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
3265.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
3267.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
不就因此受傷了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
3267.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
3269.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
那我特別要講的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
3269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
3271.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
我剛剛聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
3271.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
3273.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
早上教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
3274.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
3276.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
不僅不讓委員參與討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
3277.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
3279.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
就是強硬要停止討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
3279.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
3280.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
用表決的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
3281.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
3282.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
而我現在看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
3282.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
3283.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
就是表決的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
3284.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
3286.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
是贊成六人反對零人 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
3286.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
3288.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
這明顯的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
3288.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
3290.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
有非常多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
3290.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
3291.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
拒絕參與這個投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
3292.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
3293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
那我真的覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
3293.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
3295.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
3295.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
3298.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
為什麼在羅庭偉招委的主導下 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
3298.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
3299.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
會發生這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
3300.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
3302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我想我們在場就是陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
3302.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
3304.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
跟我跟柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
3304.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
3306.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
我們都經歷過不只一屆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
3306.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
3307.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
3307.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
3310.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
過去四年其實教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
3310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
3312.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
不管誰是多數或少數 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
3313.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
3314.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
都是好好討論 |
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3314.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
3316.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
彼此說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
3316.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
3319.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
幾乎沒有在動用表決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
3319.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
3320.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
唯一的一次表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
3321.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
3323.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
我記得大家也辯論了非常久 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
3323.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
3325.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
才有一次表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
3325.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
3327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
四年來只有一次表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
3327.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
3328.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
今天一個早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
3328.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
3330.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
就不只表決兩次 |
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3330.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
3331.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
針對提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
3331.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
3332.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
表決了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
3332.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
3334.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
還做一個副議案的政治動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
3334.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
3336.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
然後剛剛我聽到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
3336.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
3338.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
還有停止討論用表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
3338.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
3340.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
那我們的很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
3340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
3343.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
因為發現沒有辦法在場討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
3343.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
3345.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
所以用離席的方式抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
3345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
3347.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
我想問羅庭偉招委 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
3347.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
3350.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
為什麼你主持下的教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
3350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
3353.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
變成沒有辦法做全國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
3353.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
3355.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
老師學生的典範 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
3355.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
3357.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
自己都不能好好討論事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
3357.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
3358.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
不能讓不同的聲音出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
3358.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
3361.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
就動不動就用動政治表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
3361.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
3362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
那這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
3362.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
3365.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
我們怎麼樣做全國師生的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
3366.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
3367.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
就是不要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
3367.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
3370.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
範例了簡直就是惡例 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
3370.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
3372.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
就不同的意見不能好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
3372.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
3376.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
就是在做一種政治上的表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
3376.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
3378.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
為什麼過去教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
3378.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
3379.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
有很多時候有不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
3379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
3381.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
我們都能好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
3381.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
3382.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
不管是民進黨當召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
3382.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
3385.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
還是反對黨當召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
3386.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
3387.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
幾乎都不用表決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
3387.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
3390.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
那為什麼你羅庭偉擔任召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
3390.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
3393.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
就一天就是排個議程還可以臨時變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
3393.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
3395.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
不尊重委員的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
3395.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
3396.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
要表決的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
3396.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
3398.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
委員表示不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
3398.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
3400.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
你還禁止人家討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
3400.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
3401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
那羅庭偉你這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
3401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
3404.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
你能夠當教育文化委員會的召委嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
3404.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
3406.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
我質疑你根本就沒有資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
3406.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
3408.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
擔任教育文化委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
3408.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
3409.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
甚至是召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
3409.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
3410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
因為你所做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
3410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
3414.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
是對全國的老師跟學生的一種羞辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
3414.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
3417.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
民主政治就是要尊重不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
3417.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
3418.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
3418.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
3421.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
別的委員會有一些不好的做法就算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
3421.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
3423.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
我們教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
3423.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
3426.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
就應該要尊重教育的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
3426.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
3428.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
好好的討論好好的說理 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
3428.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
3430.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
不是濫用政治表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
3430.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
3432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
然後欺負人數比較少的一方 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
3432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
3434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
然後停止討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
3434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
3436.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
然後用表決的方式扼殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
3436.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
3438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
就是能夠出來的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
3438.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
3440.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
你作為教育文化委員會的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
3440.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
3441.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
你沒有覺得很羞愧嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
3444.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
3444.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
3447.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
3448.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
3448.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
3452.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
剛剛委員所提到的不是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
3452.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
3454.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
相關條例的一個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
3454.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
3456.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
我們是不予回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
3456.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
3458.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
但是我希望泛民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
3458.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
3461.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
還是要思考一下自己的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
3461.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
3462.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
還要再提嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
3463.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
3463.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
3464.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
3466.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
3467.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
3468.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
3468.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
3471.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
是在教育文化裡面是多數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
3471.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
3474.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
只是因為貴黨有兩位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
3475.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
3476.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
今天去了美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
3477.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
3479.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
特別不願意來參加我們的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
3480.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
3483 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
我想用貴黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
3483 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
3484 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
吳思瑤 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
3484 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
3485 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
他的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
3485 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
3487 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
你為什麼要在這邊毀謗他 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
3487 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
3488 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
他就是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
3488 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
3489 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
3489 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
3490 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
陳培宇 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
3490 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
3492 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
對我之前的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
3492 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
3494 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
他就是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
3494 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
3495 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
監督的範圍嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
3495 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
3496 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
3496 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
3498 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
我透過自費 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
3498 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
3500 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
帶著所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
3500 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
3501 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
去 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
3501 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
3502 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
3502 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
3505 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
來了解整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
3505 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
3507 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
日本在營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
3507 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
3509 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
宣法的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
3509.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
3511.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
我們有說他薪水小偷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
3511.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
3513.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
你韓國院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
3513.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
3514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
不是你們國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
3514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
3515.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
支持出來的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
3517.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
3518.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
3518.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
3519.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
3519.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
3520.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
給我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
3520.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
3521.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
國庭委 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
3521.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
3523.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
3523.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
3525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
國庭委 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
3525.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
3527.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
不願意開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
3527.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
3528.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
而現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
3528.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
3530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
韓國是在國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
3530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
3532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
是薪水小偷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
3532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
3533.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
3534.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
3535.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
3535.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
3536.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
3537.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
3538.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
3538.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
3539.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
不願意到場 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
3539.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
3540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
3540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
3542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
出國看棒球 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
3542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
3543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
而這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
3543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
3545.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
您還要再提 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
3545.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
3546.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
3546.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
3547.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
人民自有公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
3547.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
3548.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
棒球體育是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
3548.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
3549.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
全國都在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
3549.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
3551.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
監督的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
3551.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
3552.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
3552.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
3553.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
3553.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
3554.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
在這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
3554.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
3555.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
特別來幫委員護航 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
3555.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
3556.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
作為國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
3556.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
3557.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
是哪裡不錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
3557.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
3558.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
來簡單的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
3558.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
3559.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
不要雙標 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
3559.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
3561.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
別人出國考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
3561.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
3562.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
3562.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
3563.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
3563.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
3564.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
自己出國考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
3564.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
3565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
韓國瑜 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
3565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
3566.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
是國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
3567.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
3568.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
3568.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
3569.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
我們現在開會是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
3569.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
3570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
比如說有委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
3570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
3571.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
然後主席回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
3571.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
3572.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
大家就尊重彼此 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
3572.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
3574.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
不要說主席在講話的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
3574.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
3575.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
又在下面講 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
3575.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
3576.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
那這樣沒完沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
3576.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
3577.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
這邊又不是菜市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
3577.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
3578.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
主席濫用他的權力 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
3578.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
3579.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
在傷害不在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
3579.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
3580.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
3580.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
3581.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
你剛剛講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
3581.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
3582.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
他回應你 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
3582.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
3583.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
你一直插話 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
3583.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
3584.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
拜訪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
3584.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
3585.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
你聽不到他講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
3585.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
3587.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
我聽不到他講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
3587.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
3589.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
你聽他一直在那邊發話叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
3589.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
3590.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
你尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
3590.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
3591.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
拜訪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
3591.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
3593.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
請你不要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
3593.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
3596.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
你已經打擾其他委員的發言了 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
3596.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
3597.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
3597.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
3598.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
我第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
3598.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
3599.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
大家發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
3599.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
3600.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
另外就不要講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
3600.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
3601.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
就像你一開始講話的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
3601.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
3602.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
我那時候也聽了覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
3602.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
3603.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
很莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
3603.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
3604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
但我們也都沒有打岔你 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
3605.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
3606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
這跟主不主席無關 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
3606.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
3608.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
你剛剛發言沒有人打岔你 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
3608.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
3609.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
3609.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
3611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
你講完之後他做簡單回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
3611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
3612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
你就下面一直講 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
3612.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
3613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
那我們要聽他講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
3613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
3614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
還是聽你講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
3615.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
3617.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
我們這邊大家就是彼此尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
3617.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
3618.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
這是第一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
3619.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
3620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
3620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
3621.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
不是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
3621.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
3622.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
你沒有尊重他嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
3622.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
3623.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
那以後你講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
3623.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
3624.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
我們一直打岔你 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
3624.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
3625.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
你講得下去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
3628.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
3629.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
3629.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
3630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
那你等一下你可以再舉手嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
3630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
3632.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
你不要在人家講話的時候插嘴嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
3632.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
3634.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
你怎麼那麼喜歡插嘴咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
3634.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
3636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
國會外交這東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
3636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
3637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
上一次羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
3637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
3639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
他們排一個營養午餐的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
3639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
3641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
那也可以講這是國會外交啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
3641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
3643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
我還沒有講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
3643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
3644.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
外營委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
3644.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
3645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
3645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
3646.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
我在這邊宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
3646.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
3647.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
3647.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
3650.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
如果在遇到有委員繼續插嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
3650.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
3652.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
干擾會議進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
3652.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3654.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
以及其他的委員發言的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3654.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3655.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
那待會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
3655.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
我們可能麥克風統一放在前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3658.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
要發言的時候再來拿 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3658.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3659.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
好那我繼續講 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3659.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3660.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3660.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3661.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
他上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3661.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3663.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
我正要講他麥克風拿起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3665.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
我已經宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3667.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
他上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3667.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
如果你要這樣子的話不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3669.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
我們就放在前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3669.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3673.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
羅廷瑋上一次營養午餐考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3673.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3674.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
你也可以講是國會外交啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3674.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3676.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
國會議員去跟日本做交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
3676.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3677.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3677.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3679.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
那你們就罵他清水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3680.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
這是綠能你不能喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
你們的人去看棒球就國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
3684.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3686.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
為什麼標準都是民進黨在訂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3686.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
民進黨雙標怎麼嚴重到這種地步啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3690.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
第二個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3690.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
早上的會 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3692.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
發言委員你也沒有在現場嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3692.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
你如果有意見早上可以來表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3694.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
你沒有表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3695.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
然後現在我們已經進行到第二個會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3697.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3698.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
營養午餐你又去扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3698.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
早上的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3699.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3700.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
我也不知道為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3700.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
那這樣都扯不完 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3701.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
那前天事要不要扯一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3702.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
大前天上個禮拜事宜大家都在扯嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3704.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
現在不就在講營養午餐嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3706.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3707.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
而且校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3707.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3709.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
我覺得要講的話啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3709.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
校事會議已經往前一步了 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3711.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3712.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3713.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3713.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
教育部又會送一個新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3714.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
更精進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
辦法過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3716.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3717.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
我覺得很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3717.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3721.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
我不懂為什麼這個是對老師跟學生的羞辱耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3721.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
我覺得你這樣子講 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3724.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
才是羞辱老師跟學生吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3725.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3727.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
當初在訂校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3727.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3730.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
那什麼跟發言委員很好的人本基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3731.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3732.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
就抱著仇視心態啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3732.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3734.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
執行長講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3734.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3735.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
執行長講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3735.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3737.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
哎呀老師你被濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3737.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3740.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
最後如果被調查是有冤屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3740.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3742.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
也不會對你帶來任何實質的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3743.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
他這樣跟老師講耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
結果老師被調查了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
被扒三層皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3749.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
受到很多冤屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3749.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3751.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
有的老師還去看身心科 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3751.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3753.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
結果人本基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3753.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3755.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
執行長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3755.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3757.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
老師你也沒什麼實質的傷害啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3757.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3761.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
你也不用去改變原本的私生關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3761.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3763.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
站著講話不腰疼啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3763.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3765.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
這樣子仇視心態的基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3765.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3767.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
在主導我們教育的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3768.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
我不能接受啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
我覺得早上我非常感激召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3773.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
排這樣的一個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3773.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3776.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
而且我們校事會議的改革往前一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3777.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3780.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
教育部兩個月會送一個更新的版本過來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3780.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3782.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
這只會越來越好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3782.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3784.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
這過程當中我們也會持續監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3784.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3786.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
我不知道為什麼要去扯這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3786.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
我不知道發言人是不想要下次會議改革嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3789.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3790.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
還是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3790.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3792.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
這是簡單回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3792.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3795.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
我想說這個會議我們就討論營養午餐就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3795.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3798.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
那我們接下來請羅志祥委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3802.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3806.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
剛剛范語委員也有點到本人的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3806.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3808.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
但在這之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3808.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3813.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
我真的是還是給我們范語委員一點小小的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3813.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3815.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
一場教文的傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3815.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3818.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
我們今天早上雖然大家意見不相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3818.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3822.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
但是今天有委員拿著麥克風講話的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3822.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3825.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
就不會有一些沒有禮貌的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3825.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3827.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
拿麥克風出來插嘴啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3827.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3829.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
你剛剛講的那些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3829.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3831.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
你以為我們在幾下聽的認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3831.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3833.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
也不認同啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3834.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3836.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
請問有人插你的嘴嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3836.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3838.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
完全沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3838.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3840.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
主席講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3840.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3842.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
基本上也是回應你的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3843.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3847.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
所以最基本教文委員對彼此的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3847.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3849.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
請你不要來這裡破壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3849.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3851.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
高業元之委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3851.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3853.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
你也要插嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3853.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3855.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
我不知道為什麼今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3855.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3859.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
你還自稱你是教文的委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3859.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3861.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
那別人委員發言都不用尊重了 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
第二個我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
發言委員可能因為早上沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
他早上沒有來關心消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
下午突然發現消失會議很重要來關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
早上議程過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
所以你不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
我們沒有罵吳思瑤跟陳培渝是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
是吳思瑤罵吳思瑤是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
你都搞不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
是陳培渝罵陳培渝是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
第一個罵人家出國是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
是吳思瑤 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3890.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3892.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
照你的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3892.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
他們出去看球賽叫做國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3894.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
羅庭威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3896.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
為了營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3898.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3900.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3900.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
去向日本取經 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3902.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
去知道日本這個營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
最早實施的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3906.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3908.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
怎麼推動最優質的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3908.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
我不知道發言委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3910.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3912.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
那個記者會你有沒有出席啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3915.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3917.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
你們的民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3917.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3919.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
把羅庭威罵的什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3919.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3921.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
豬狗不如啊薪水小偷啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3921.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3923.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
怎麼可以去日本去考察營養午餐啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3923.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3925.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
我們不是拿 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3925.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3927.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
羅志強、羅庭威跟葉元智的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3927.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3929.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
說吳思瑤是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3929.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3931.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
我講的很簡單啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3931.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3933.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
你吳思瑤能夠把別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3933.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3935.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
出國考察罵成薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3935.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3937.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
那你今天去看棒球 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3937.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3939.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
陪沈柏楊拼到美國拼選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3939.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3941.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
難道別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3941.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3943.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
就不能說你是薪水小偷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3943.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3945.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
有這麼雙標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3945.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3947.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
我還是特別在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3947.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3949.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
罵吳思瑤是薪水小偷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3949.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3951.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
不是羅庭威、不是葉元智、不是羅志強 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3951.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3953.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
是吳思瑤自己啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3955.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3957.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
所以最後還是要回頭一句話啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3959.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3961.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
今天早上沒有來參加會議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3962.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3964.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
我覺得在這邊喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3964.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3966.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
一直在提之前的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3966.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3968.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
我覺得是很奇怪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3968.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3970.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
那再來講說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3970.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3972.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
這兩次的會議上午下午會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3972.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3975.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
既然上午我們已經把議程處理完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3975.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3977.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
也是讓官員們讓委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3977.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3979.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
有更多時間討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3979.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3982.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
所以不是臨時新增了什麼提案啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3982.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3985.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
只是希望能夠提前一點開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3985.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3987.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
怎麼了薪水小偷很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3987.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3989.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
提前開會也很辛苦啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3989.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3991.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
連提前開會都覺得做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3991.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3993.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
今天就是要沈淫洋五川法 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3993.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3995.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
跟孝世會議大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3995.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3997.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
教文委員不就是來這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3997.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3998.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
來出席這個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3998.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
4000.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
官員出席這個討論啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
4000.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
4002.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
那我今天我們早上的會 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
4002.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
4004.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
比較結束比較早 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
4004.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
4006.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
所以我也體恤大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
4006.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
4008.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
我覺得大家我們會去提前一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
4008.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
4010.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
這個又無限上綱啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
4010.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
4012.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
多一點時間討論有這麼困難嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
4012.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
4014.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
最後還是要講一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
4014.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
4016.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
抱歉啊我還是要在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
4016.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
4019.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
鄭重的感謝吳思堯跟陳培渝 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
4019.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
4021.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
當了他們口中的薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
4021.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
4023.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
吳思堯陳培渝沒有當薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
4023.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
4025.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
跑到國外去看球賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
4025.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
4027.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
今天孝世會議改革就停在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
4027.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
4029.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
動不了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
4030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
4032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
國庭委之前排孝世會議的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
4032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
4034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
辦法審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
4034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
4035.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
就是吳思堯跟陳培渝 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
4035.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
4037.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
在的時候把他擋掉的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
4037.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
4039.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
不讓這改革繼續走下去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
4039.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
4041.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
所以我還是肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
4041.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
4044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
吳思堯口中的薪水小偷吳思堯 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
4044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
4046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
今天到美國去看球賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
4046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
4049.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
讓我們的孝世會議改革可以往前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
4049.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
4051.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
讓老師們可以鬆一口氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
4051.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
4053.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
不用再被民進黨這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
4053.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
4055.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
來拖延霸凌謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
4057.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
4059.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
4059.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
4061.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
剛剛郭一群委員有先舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
4061.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
4063.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
不好意思我待會要先給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
4063.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
4065.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
待會我要先回應一下羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
4065.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
4067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
非常感謝羅志祥委員來還原事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
4067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
4069.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
我想有很多的往例 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
4069.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
4073.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
大家都希望能夠依照教育文化委員會的往例繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
4073.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
4075.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
但是對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
4075.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
4077.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
既然我辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
4076.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
4078.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
營養午餐的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
4078.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
4082.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
民進黨要用最高標準兩套標準來說我是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
4084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
4087.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
那今天用民進黨的魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
4087.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
4089.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
我要還給民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
4089.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
4092.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
也希望民進黨不要用兩套標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
4092.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
4094.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
別人出國考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
4094.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
4097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
營養午餐法說是薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
4097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
4099.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
自己出國考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
4099.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
4101.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
幫助沈柏楊成立後援會 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
4101.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
4103.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
看棒球 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
4104.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
4106.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
就說是國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
4106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
4108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
4107.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
4109.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
人民自有公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
4109.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
4111.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
心中自有一把尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
4110.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
4112.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
接著我們請國務卿委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
4113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
4115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
4116.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
4118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
我要再一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
4118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
4120.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
因為我想這個透過麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
4120.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
4122.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
校事會議其實我真的是第一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
4122.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
4126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
在我們的委員會提出質詢的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
4126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
4129.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
那我也多次的幫很多的老師發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
4129.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
4132.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
但是我一定要說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
4132.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
4134.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
就是包含過去我們所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
4134.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
4135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
就是案件分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
4135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
4138.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
這也是我給這個教育部的一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
4138.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
4140.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
那當然今天早上就是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
4140.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
4142.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
大概一個多小時之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
4142.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
4144.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
發生的這樣子的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
4144.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
4146.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
其實我要再次的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
4146.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
4150.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
當然召委你有依法可以確實調整這個會議的一個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
4150.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
4152.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
這個沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
4152.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
4154.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
但是程序上是不是也應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
4154.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
4156.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
有一個比較更正式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
4156.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
4158.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
變更跟通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
4158.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
4160.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
那今天的整個所有整天的一個議程是 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
4160.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
4164.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
上個禮拜五超過五點過後 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
4164.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
4166.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
我們所有的委員才收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
4166.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
4168.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
甚至有些委員都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
4168.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
4170.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
在六點之後才收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
4170.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
4173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
那這個其實我真的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
4173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
4175.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
跟召委建議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
4175.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
4177.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
是不是能夠給予行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
4177.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
4179.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
或者是我們的立法院全體的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
4179.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
4181.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
能夠有一個合理的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
4181.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
4183.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
準備跟安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
4183.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
4187.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
那不是用這種臨時變更議程的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
4187.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
4189.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
那我相信這樣子的一個臨時變更議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
4189.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
4191.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
其實是不利於我們整個所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
4191.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
4194.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
在會議當中的一個法案的充分討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
4194.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
4197.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
這個是我誠心的建議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
4197.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
4199.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
那基於所謂的剛剛范雲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
4199.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
4202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
我相信他是非常關心教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
4202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
4204.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
發生任何事情的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
4204.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
4206.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
那他自己本身也在教育文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
4208.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
4212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
這個這一塊其實耕耘了也非常非常久喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
4212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
4214.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
那過往其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
4214.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
4216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
雖然我是算新科立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
4216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
4219.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
但是過往我們都在教育文化委員會當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
4219.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
4221.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
我們都可以看到往例喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
4221.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
4223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
其實大家都可以充分的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
4223.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
4226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
今天非常的遺憾在校事會議的那件事情上 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
4226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
4228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
其實我們要二輪的來發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
4228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
4230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
甚至我們要請教育部有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
4230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
4234.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
到底針對校事會議哪一個部分需要更精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
4234.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
4235.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
需要更改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
4235.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
4237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
我們讓現場的老師不再恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
4237.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
4239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
我們讓校園當中的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
4239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
4243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
也不再備受所謂的權力不對等的一個對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
4243.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
4245.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
還是有一些所謂的不適任的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
4245.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
4247.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
我們又應該要怎麼樣來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
4247.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
4249.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
這個所謂的退場的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
4249.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
4251.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
會不會退回之後又回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
4251.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
4253.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
我們之前所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
4253.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
4255.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
匿名檢舉又來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
4255.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
4256.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
如果退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
4256.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
4257.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
然後接著下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
4257.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
4260.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
我們應該要怎麼樣往更好的方向去走 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
4260.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
4263.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
這個才是我們真正的一個目的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
4263.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
4266.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
那我想今天早上所發生任何的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
4266.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
4268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
所以我在這裡表達深切的遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
4268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
4270.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
那同時我還是要提醒召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
4270.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
4274.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
雖然您到8月底下一個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
4274.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
4276.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
也許就不是這個召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
4276.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
4278.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
不是羅庭委員囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
4278.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
4280.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
那但是還是要提醒啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
4280.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
4282.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
有任何的議程的變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
4282.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
4285.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
麻煩給予更多充足的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
4285.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
4286.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
給部會也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
4286.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
4287.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
給我們所有的委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
4287.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
4289.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
讓我們有充分的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
4289.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
4290.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
可以準備資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
4290.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
4293.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
可以準備讓法案的討論更加精緻 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
4293.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
4295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
而不是用很粗暴的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
4295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
4297.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
用表決說不准再討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
4297.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
4299.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
我們就不要再討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
4299.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
4300.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
我們直接表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
4300.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
4303.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
所以這為什麼是早上我們發生的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
4303.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
4304.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
我覺得非常的遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
4304.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
4306.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
我在這裡還是要表達我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
4306.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
4307.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
4308.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
4310.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
好謝謝我們郭一琴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
4310.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
4312.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
也跟郭一琴委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
4312.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
4315.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
可能大家都是這一屆當選 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
4315.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
4318.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
可能對議事規則不一定這麼熟悉 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
4318.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
4319.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
但是因為擔任召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
4319.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
4321.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
我有我的權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
4321.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
4323.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
所以也去特別研究一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
4323.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
4326.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
立法院議事規則第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
4326.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
4328.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
議事日程由秘書長編擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
4328.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
4331.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
經程序委員會審定後附議 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
4331.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
4333.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
除有特殊情形外 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
4333.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
4337.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
致辭於開會前兩日送達 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
4337.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
4341.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
所以禮拜五我特別來更改議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
4341.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
4345.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
這個部分是符合議事規則裡面所規範的 |
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4345.1 |
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4347.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
再者我也有提到 |
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4347.1 |
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4350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
這裡面有寫到除有特殊情形外 |
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4350.1 |
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4354.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
我們現在面對問題由致哀由 |
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4354.1 |
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4356.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
如此猖狂 |
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4356.1 |
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4357.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
從 |
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4357.75 |
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4359.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
吉白所學校 |
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4360.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
4363.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
到已經上升到幾千所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
4363.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
4366.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
問題由致哀由進入到校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
4366.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
4367.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
我們非常擔憂 |
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4367.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
4370.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
校事會議這幾天的新聞你可以去看看 |
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4370.18 |
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4372.18 |
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所以這是特殊情形 |
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4372.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
4375.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
也符合整個議事規則裡面的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
4375.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
4376.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
4377.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
4379.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
安排相關的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
4379.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
4381.52 |
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所以也請你體諒 |
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4381.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
4383.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
所有的東西都是照著規則來走 |
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4383.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
4384.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
我講 |
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4387.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
4388.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
4388.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
4390.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
所以我剛剛有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
4390.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
4391.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
我剛剛有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
4391.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
4393.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
不好意思我在發言當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
4393.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
4395.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
不好意思我在發言當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
4395.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
4396.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
我有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
4396.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
4400.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
昭偉的確依法有確實可以更改的一個權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
4400.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
4401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
4401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
4403.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
但是基本上謝謝你的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
4403.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
4404.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
但是先告訴您 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
4404.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
4405.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
也告訴所有的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
4405.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
4410.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
我是依照我的這相關的議事規則來進行 |
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4410.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
4413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
那您對於我這細節上處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
4413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
4415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
沒有辦法像您說的這麼完美 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
4415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
4416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
不好意思 |
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4416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
4419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
我想我只能說謝謝你的指教 |
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4419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
4421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
但是為了國人的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
4421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
4423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
為了孩子的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
4423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
4424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
為了校事會議教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
4424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
4426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
我想這有其必要性 |
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4428.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
4429.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
在者 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
4429.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
4432.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
我想要再特別的提醒我們現在所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
4432.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
4435.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
因為我們今天已經在開始審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
4435.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
4437.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
營養午餐相關的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
4437.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
4442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
那是不是請大家盡量專注在法案的焦點 |
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4442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
4445.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
那如果還要繼續討論到其他的議題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
4445.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
4449.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我想這個部分都會耽誤到整個營養午餐的推遲 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
4449.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
4451.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
而且也是不遲疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
4451.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
4453.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我們應該要趕緊的來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
4453.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
4455.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
因為致癌油的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
4455.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
4458.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
目前還持續的有可能影響到整個校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
4458.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
4459.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
所以是不是 |
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4459.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
4461.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
周圍召委我請接下來的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
4461.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
4464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
是專注在所有的營養午餐法案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
4464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
4465.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
配音委員可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
4466.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
4467.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
4468.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
4470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
發言委員可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
4470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
4474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
今天我開宗明義就說最關心營養午餐的發言委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
4474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
4476.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
這個部分我們是不是繼續往前推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
4478.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
4481.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
如果您還是有持續其他要講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
4481.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
4483.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
那我們先休息五分鐘 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
4487.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
4490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
我現在問的是主席周圍的一個公正性 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
4490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
4492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
你拿麥克風MARK在場的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
4492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
4494.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
不讓別人回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
4496.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
4498.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
這就是周圍的崩壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
4498.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
4500.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
破壞周圍化委會的傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
4500.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
4502.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
大家趕快討論到營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
4502.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
4505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
那你剛剛葉元之、羅志強罵我之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
4505.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
4507.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
待會我不能夠回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
4507.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
4509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
每個人都一人發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
4509.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
4511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
每個人都一人發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
4511.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
4513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
怎麼會有這種主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
4513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
4515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
這個問題真的很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
4515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
4517.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
怎麼會有這種主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
4517.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
4519.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
我沒看過這種主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
4519.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
4521.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
周圍化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
4521.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
4523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
我們沒看過這種周圍化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
4523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
4525.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
拜託你好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
4526.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
4528.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
如今周圍他主持的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
4528.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
4530.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
都很尊重大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
4530.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
4532.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
謝謝 |
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4532.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
4534.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
你不能有自己的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
4534.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
4535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
4535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
4537.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
但是只要兩套標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
4537.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
4539.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
我們有兩套標準 |
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4539.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
4541.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
4541.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
4543.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
陳培英不是周圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
4543.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
4545.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
你是周圍的時候出國被罵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
4545.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
4547.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
韓國一剛院長也有江啟臣 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
4547.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
4549.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
來幫忙主持院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
4549.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
4551.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
這亂比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
4550.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
4552.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
4556.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
4558.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
雲霧混珠 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
4558.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
4560.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
這樣的人沒有辦法當Joyful Heart委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
4585.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
4587.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
周圍化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
4587.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
4589.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
周圍化委員會拜拜成將 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
4589.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
4591.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
周圍拿著化科中拜科中 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
4591.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
4593.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
就放在在場公寓 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
4593.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
4595.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
以前周圍四年沒有這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
4595.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
4597.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
現在是越來越嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
4619.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
4621.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
謝謝 |
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4624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
4626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
謝謝 |
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4671.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
4673.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
4674.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
4676.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
4704.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
4706.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
4706.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
4708.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
4708.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
4710.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
謝謝 |
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4710.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
4712.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
4712.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
4714.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
謝謝 |
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4729.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
4731.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
謝謝 |
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4731.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
4733.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
4734.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
4736.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
謝謝 |
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4736.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
4738.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
4738.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
4740.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
4740.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
4742.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
4742.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
4744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
4744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
4746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
4746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
4748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
4748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
4750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
4750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
4752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
4752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
4754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
4754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
4756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
4756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
4758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
4758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
4760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
4760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
4762.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
4749.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
4751.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
萬美麟不是本委 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
4751.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
4753.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
不要這樣子又要扯本委 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
4753.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
4755.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
你連萬美麟不是本委你都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
4755.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
4757.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
就代表你不是教育文化委員會的本委嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
4759.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
4761.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
4764.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
4766.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
4766.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
4768.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
4768.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
4770.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
羅志祥他們不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
4770.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
4772.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
你們就攻擊他們不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
4772.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
4774.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
不要再說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
4775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
4777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
上一次所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
4777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
4779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
業員職委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
4779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
4781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
你們就說業員職委員怎麼不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
4781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
4783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
一樣的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
4783.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
4785.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
上次到八點 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
4785.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
4787.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
我也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
4787.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
4789.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
你們就這樣攻擊他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
4790.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
4792.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
你們有時候也不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
4792.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
4794.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
我們也不會這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
4794.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
4796.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
我讓你再論述一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
4796.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
4798.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
但是回到我們的營養組參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
4807.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
4809.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
好 下一開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
4810.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
4812.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
好 我們休息冷靜五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
4813.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
4815.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
還是要尊重委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
4815.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
4817.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
那我再一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
4816.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
4818.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
4817.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
4819.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
禁告拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
4819.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
4821.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
宣告拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
4821.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
4823.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
我們就盡量的簡短發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
4823.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
4825.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
然後推進我們的營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
4827.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
4829.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
委員相互尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
4829.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
4831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
那待會吳佩儀委員發言的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
4831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
4833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
我也要禁告 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
4833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
4835.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
其餘的委員不可以干擾他的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
4835.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
4837.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
4837.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
4839.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
請佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
4839.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
4841.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
好 等一下這個營養午餐很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
4841.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
4843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
那我也有版本大家都很忠實 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
4843.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
4845.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
所以我盡快簡短講 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
4845.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
4847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
就是我還是要講說 剛剛在討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
4847.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
4849.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
為什麼我們在要求我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
4849.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
4851.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
要讓教育部來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
4851.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
4853.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
因為像這個校事會議我們都要求要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
4853.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
4855.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
那甚至我自己的爸爸媽媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
4855.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
4857.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
都是小學老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
4857.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
4859.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
所以教學現場我們真的需要讓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
4859.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
4861.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
壓力不要那麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
4861.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
4863.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
這個我們 其實我認為我們這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
4863.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
4865.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
跟其他議題不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
4865.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
4867.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
其實我們朝野大家共識性滿高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
4867.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
4869.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
但是在程序跟法律的 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
4869.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
4871.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
見解定義上面有所不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
4871.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
4873.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
那我剛剛提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
4873.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
4875.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
這之前其實質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
4875.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
4877.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
葉文志委員也贊同就是我們擔心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
4877.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
4879.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
如果退回之後他的法律效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
4879.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
4881.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
在沒有修正之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
4881.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
4883.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
他會不會毀掉上一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
4883.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
4885.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
就是還可以允許匿名檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
4885.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
4887.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
甚至沒有這個分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
4887.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
4889.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
我們擔心這個 但是我剛剛沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
4889.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
4891.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
獲得教育部的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
4891.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4893.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
這是為什麼我剛剛會是一再要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4893.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4895.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
請讓我再發言的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4895.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4897.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
但是沒關係 已經就是大家決議過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4897.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4899.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
但是我要拜託說 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4899.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4901.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
等一下營養午餐的時候 因為有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4901.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4903.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
是同樣的 就是我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4903.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4905.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
這個教育部 過去有沒有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4905.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4907.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
地方政府有協調討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4907.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4909.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
我希望讓他們明確的來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4909.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4911.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
我們才能夠進行這個法案比較明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4911.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
這個審議 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4915.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
好 謝謝吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4915.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4917.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
非常理性而且是專業的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4917.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4919.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
關心營養午餐 那也跟你們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4919.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4921.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
7月13日我們已經有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4921.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4923.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
一次會 那當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4923.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4925.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
有讓這個校事會議針對相關辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4925.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4927.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
有讓教育部來回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4927.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4929.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
那所以今天才會繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4929.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4931.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
以上簡單報告 那下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4931.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4933.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
我答應過要讓他發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4933.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4935.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
范雲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
謝謝昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
那我要先講 因為剛剛有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4942.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
質疑我沒有禮貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4942.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
那我要講 我的禮貌是 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4946.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
保留給尊重其他人的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4947.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4949.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
我們在場有柯志恩委員在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4949.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4951.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
他當昭偉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4951.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4953.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
我們有不禮貌插他的話嗎 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4953.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4955.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
外媒林委員 很多議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4955.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4957.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
我也跟他意見不一樣 我沒有插過 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4957.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4959.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
他當昭偉的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4959.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4961.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
上一屆四年 國民黨不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4961.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4963.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
誰當昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4963.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4965.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
都沒有發生這樣的事 我也 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4965.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4967.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
從來沒有被認為不禮貌過 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4967.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4969.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
所以我再講一下 |
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昭偉不管是誰當 |
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尊重大家發言的意見 |
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多數少數意見彼此說服 |
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這是教育文化委員會 |
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優良的傳統 有人不尊重 |
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我沒有辦法 |
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4983.66 |
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但是我有表達對教育文化委員會 |
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過去文化的一個珍惜 |
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我想不管我們誰當昭偉 |
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那都會有不同的意見 |
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4991.66 |
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不同黨派 有時候你是多數 |
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4991.66 |
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4993.66 |
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有時候我是多數 |
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4993.66 |
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我們是不是能夠 |
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4995.66 |
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4997.66 |
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處理教育問題的時候 |
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4997.66 |
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4999.66 |
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也能夠讓大家看到 |
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4999.66 |
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5001.66 |
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不分黨派 我們關心教育 |
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5001.66 |
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5003.66 |
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不同的意見都值得我們參考 |
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5005.66 |
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剛剛我為不在場的 |
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5007.66 |
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吳思瑤陳培講話 |
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因為我不忍心他們長期 |
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5009.66 |
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5011.66 |
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這麼關心教育問題 |
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5011.66 |
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那就在昭偉的口中 |
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5015.66 |
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把他講成是一個去看棒球 |
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5015.66 |
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5017.66 |
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然後拋下教育的人 |
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5017.66 |
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5019.66 |
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我覺得對他很不公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
5019.65 |
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5021.65 |
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就如同我剛剛休息的時候講 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
5021.65 |
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5023.65 |
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羅廷瑋被攻擊是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
5023.65 |
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5025.65 |
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是昭偉 沒有人可以帶主持 |
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5025.65 |
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5027.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
今天教育文化委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
5027.65 |
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5029.65 |
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或是任何一個委員會 |
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5029.65 |
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5031.65 |
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有人請假做國會外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
5031.65 |
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5033.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
我們都不會這樣攻擊 |
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5033.65 |
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5035.65 |
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韓國瑜院長我們也不攻擊 |
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5035.65 |
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5037.65 |
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因為江啟臣可以主持 |
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5037.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
5039.65 |
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我想這都是合理的事情 |
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5039.65 |
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5041.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
最後我要講的事情 |
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5041.65 |
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5043.65 |
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剛剛也有委員 |
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5043.65 |
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5045.65 |
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把不在場的人本做批評 |
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5045.65 |
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5047.65 |
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我覺得不管是人本 |
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5047.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
5049.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
全教種特教老師 |
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5049.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
5051.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
代理教師團體學生團體 |
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5051.65 |
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5053.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
他們都是為教育好 |
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5053.65 |
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5055.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
他們的意見都應該要 |
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5055.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
5057.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
被好好的討論 |
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5057.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
5059.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
為什麼可以把不在場的團體 |
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5059.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
5061.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
然後做攻擊 |
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5061.65 |
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5063.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
刻意指稱人本跟我很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
5063.65 |
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5065.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
我跟全教種也很好 |
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5065.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
5067.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
跟特教老師團體也很好 |
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5067.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
5069.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
跟代理教師也很好 |
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5069.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
5071.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
因為他們都提出很好的意見 |
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5071.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
5073.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
教育部本來就應該要 |
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5073.65 |
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5075.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
都能聽到仔細去思考 |
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5075.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
5077.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
就像教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
5077.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
5079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
我們民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
5079.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
5081.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
早上不代表大家不關心 |
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5081.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
5083.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
我沒有來也不代表不關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
5083.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
5085.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
我現在不在教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
5085.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
5087.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
可是我也來質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
5087.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
5089.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
部長也聽到我對教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
5089.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
5091.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
批判的意見 |
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5091.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
5093.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
我希望是不是能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
5093.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
5095.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
逐步去處理所謂的第三方機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
5095.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
5097.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
我覺得這都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
5097.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
5099.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
我們對教師會議關心的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
5099.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
5101.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
5101.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
5103.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
有委員每次拿了麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
5103.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
5105.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
都這樣扭曲別人的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
5105.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
5107.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
那我們要浪費時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
5107.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
5109.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
談這個相關的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
5109.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
5111.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
我也是不得已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
5111.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
5113.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
那最後營養午餐的這個專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
5113.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
5115.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
上一屆我非常早就提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
5115.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
5117.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
非常的重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
5117.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
5119.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
那可是我也希望大家要體會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
5119.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
5121.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
現在才劃法的狀況不明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
5121.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
5123.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
中央地方的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
5123.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
5125.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
要合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
5125.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
5127.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
那到底是誰買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
5127.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
5129.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
增加的人事經費應該是誰出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
5129.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
5131.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
我覺得這都是重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
5131.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
5133.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
5133.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
5135.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
那也再一次跟范委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
5135.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
5137.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
那因為我上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
5137.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
5139.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
擔任主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
5139.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
5141.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
我是排考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
5141.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
5143.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
所以沒有所謂沒人能夠代理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
5143.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
5145.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
相關的一個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
5145.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
5147.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
而且當時我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
5147.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
5149.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
非常要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
5149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
5151.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
國教署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
5151.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
5153.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
要親身去體驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
5154.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
5156.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
那國教署署長在羅志祥委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
5156.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
5158.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
詢答過程當中他也承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
5158.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
5160.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
他現場體驗到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
5160.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
5162.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
了解到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
5162.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
5166.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
看到的 跟過往他所取得的文獻資料不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
5167.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
5169.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
有其他的收穫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
5169.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
5171.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
所以有這一層的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
5171.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
5173.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
也希望您能夠體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
5173.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
5175.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
每一個人的安排相關的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
5175.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
5177.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
那最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
5177.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
5179.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
如果委員對於營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
5179.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
5181.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
誰來負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
5182.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
5184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
這麼的感興趣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
5184.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
5186.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
那我們事不宜遲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
5186.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
5188.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我們趕快推進好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
5189.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
5191.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
好 謝謝您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
5191.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
5193.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
那現在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
5193.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
5195.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
相關的一個裁劃法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
5195.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
5197.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
也已經都開始了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
5197.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
5199.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
那我們是不是趕快來推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
5199.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
5201.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
拜託委員 好嗎 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
5201.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
5203.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
那接下來我們第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
5203.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
5205.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
5205.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
5207.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
等三十八個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
5207.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
5209.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
以及委員柯志恩等人所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
5209.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
5211.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
5211.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
5213.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
接著我們來針對第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
5213.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
5215.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
開始討論 請委員舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
5220.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
5222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
好 大家可以看到這個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
5222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
5224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
羅廷瑋等柯志恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
5224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
5226.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
學校午餐及飲食條例的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
5226.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
5228.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
5228.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
5230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
然後來 最主要我們要參考的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
5230.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
5232.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
5232.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
5234.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
5234.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
5236.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
5235.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
5237.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
陳秀芭委員再來 柯志恩委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
5243.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
5245.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
陳秀芭委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
5245.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
5247.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
5247.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
5249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
呃 我們現在是在第五條嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
5249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
5251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
5251.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
5253.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
5281.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
5283.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
呃 因為規範學校本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
5283.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
5285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
是不是可以達成到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
5285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
5287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
飲食教育這個目標呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
5287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
5289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
我是比較怕有這個量能不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
5289.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
5291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
那飲食的均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
5291.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
5293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
使用國產豬以及在地食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
5293.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
5295.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
日式飲食文化等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
5295.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
5297.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
這些真正引領學校飲食目標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
5297.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
5299.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
應該都是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
5299.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
5301.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
而不是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
5301.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
5303.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
所以我會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
5303.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
5305.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
如果只是說我們規範是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
5305.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
5307.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
這個單位他這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
5307.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
5309.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
是不是來處理相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
5309.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
5311.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
是不足的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
5311.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
5313.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
需要用主管機關相關的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
5313.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
5315.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
來一起配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
5315.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
5317.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
5316.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
5318.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
這個部分請我們大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
5318.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
5320.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
同仁們再討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
5320.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
5322.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
另外本席也希望說在飲食教育的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
5322.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
5324.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
可以融入在地飲食文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
5324.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
5326.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
或是當地食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
5326.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
5328.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
所以我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
5328.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
5330.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
我的條文裡面有一個培養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
5330.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
5332.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
學生關懷在地飲食文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
5332.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
5334.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
並認識多元飲食文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
5334.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
5336.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
以提升學生對飲食之了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
5336.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
5338.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
5338.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
5340.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
我們有這樣子的項目放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
5340.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
5342.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
讓孩子對自己家鄉會有更多的認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
5342.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
5344.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
自己家鄉的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
5344.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
5346.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
不管是農特產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
5346.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
5348.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
還是我們有一些特殊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
5348.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
5350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
是在當地的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
5350.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
5352.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
不一樣的耕種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
5352.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
5354.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
所生產出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
5354.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
5356.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
這樣子的農產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
5356.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
5358.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
來增進孩子們對台灣的文化認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
5358.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
5360.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
所以我增進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
5360.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
5362.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
就是第三款這個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
5362.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
5364.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
也希望大家討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
5364.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
5366.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
是不是可以參彩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
5366.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
5368.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
5369.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
5371.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
科志人委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
5372.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
5374.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
好我想這第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
5374.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
5376.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
就是主要達到的這些目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
5376.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
5378.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
我說實在的我覺得教育部寫的已經非常的明確了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
5378.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
5380.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
但是為了讓它更細緻化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
5380.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
5382.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
我想在這個推動飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
5382.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
5384.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
教育的部分我們就增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
5384.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
5386.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
跟秀寶委員一樣就是有關於食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
5386.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
5388.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
純粹只是希望能夠讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
5388.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
5390.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
它的重點更能夠提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
5390.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
5392.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
就更能夠突出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
5392.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
5394.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
那這個部分裡面整個的宗旨跟精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
5394.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
5396.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
跟教育部其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
5396.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
5398.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
完全是吻合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
5398.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
5400.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
只是我們希望在這裡面的字詞上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
5400.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
5402.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
更增加像是尊重生命 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
5402.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
5404.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
自然環境跟勞動的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
5404.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
5406.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
然後在第四 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
5406.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
5408.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
項裡面就是第四條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
5408.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
5410.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
學習感恩息實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
5410.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
5412.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
我們覺得是如果能夠加入減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
5412.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
5414.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
食物浪費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
5414.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
5416.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
把它更明確的話或許也是一個考量的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
5416.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
5418.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
然後第七個就是我特別提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
5418.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
5420.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
了解地產地銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
5420.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
5422.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
在地食材與環境永續之關聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
5422.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
5424.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
5424.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
5426.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
多增加這幾個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
5426.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
5428.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
如果讓它這個目標能夠更明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
5428.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
5430.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
更簡單易了解的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
5430.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
5432.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
我覺得大家其實可以來做一個討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
5434.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
5436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
好 吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
5436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
5438.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
再來燕姿委員 再來郭奕勤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
5438.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
5440.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
再來吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
5440.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
5442.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
5442.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
5444.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
一樣我這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
5444.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
5446.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
是要特別舉出因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
5446.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
5448.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
我個人也是沒有第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
5448.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
5450.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
但是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
5450.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
5452.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
在第五條裡面列出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
5452.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
5454.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
六項飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
5454.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
5456.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
其實我是覺得支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
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因為這些都是很重要的教育目標 |
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但是 |
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5462.01 |
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有感於比較像宣示性的目標 |
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那我更期待是說 |
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讓學校知道要怎麼 |
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落實 |
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那我特別提出的 |
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5472.01 |
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是寫了一個叫第五章的 |
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飲食教育 |
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那特別把健康飲食 |
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5478.01 |
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食農教育 多元飲食文化 |
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5478.01 |
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5480.01 |
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剩食減量等等 |
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5482.01 |
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把它名列 |
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5482.01 |
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5484.01 |
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作為學校的一個具體的教育責任 |
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並且提出學校 |
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可以去設置飲食教育的 |
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專科教室 |
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那這兩個版本我認為是 |
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沒有衝突 |
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但是是互補的 |
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5498.01 |
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希望說補上食物端的需要 |
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5500.01 |
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反映現場的困難 |
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5502.01 |
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讓飲食教育不僅僅是 |
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5504.01 |
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宣示性的目標 |
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5506.01 |
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更能夠真正的在課程設計上面 |
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5508.01 |
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可以去做落實 |
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5510.01 |
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做以上的說明 |
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5510.98 |
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5512.98 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
5512.33 |
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5514.33 |
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葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
5515.32 |
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5517.32 |
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好 我們這個營養午餐法其實 |
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5517.32 |
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5519.32 |
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那個時候在討論的時候 |
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5519.32 |
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5521.32 |
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其實蠻多委員都提到飲食教育啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
5521.32 |
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5523.32 |
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那這個應該就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
5523.32 |
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5525.32 |
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應該有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
5525.32 |
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5527.32 |
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做的一件事情 不過在這個第五條這邊 |
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是寫說學校得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
5529.51 |
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5531.51 |
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透過 |
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5530.88 |
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5532.88 |
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辦理學校午餐推動飲食教育 |
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就得啦 得就是可做可不做 |
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所以寫了六點 |
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5538.88 |
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到時候沒做其實 |
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5540.88 |
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也沒什麼用 |
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5542.88 |
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那在我原本的版本裡面我是寫 |
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應 但是是指 |
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5546.88 |
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息時教育 因為這一塊 |
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5546.88 |
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5548.88 |
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我覺得息時這一塊是一個趨勢 |
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而且應該是必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
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5552.88 |
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要讓大家知道不能浪費食物 |
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5554.88 |
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所以我覺得看看有沒有 |
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5554.88 |
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5556.88 |
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大家可以討論一下 看怎麼折衷一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
5556.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
5558.88 |
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就是什麼東西是得什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
5558.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
5560.88 |
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就是應可以把它寫得更明確一點 |
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5560.88 |
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5562.88 |
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然後在飲食教育這一塊 |
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5562.88 |
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5564.88 |
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可以讓學校有一個比較確定的準則 |
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5564.88 |
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5566.88 |
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謝謝 |
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5569.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
5571.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
國學委員嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
5571.88 |
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5573.88 |
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對啊 在吳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
5574.97 |
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5576.97 |
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好 至於一個部分 |
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5576.97 |
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5578.97 |
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就是我們的教育部的版本 |
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5578.97 |
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5580.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
第五條當中 |
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5580.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
5582.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
其實學習感跟息時這一點 |
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5582.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
5584.97 |
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其實是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
5584.97 |
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5586.97 |
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那在我的版本 |
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5588.97 |
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因為我是放在第四條 |
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5588.97 |
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5590.97 |
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那在第四條的部分 |
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5590.97 |
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5592.97 |
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我是不是大家可以 |
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5592.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
5594.97 |
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參酌一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
5594.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
5596.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
有優先 我的版本有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
5596.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
5598.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
優先採用中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
5599.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
5601.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
農業主管機關認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
5601.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
5603.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
知在地優良農產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
5605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
那提升國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
5605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
5607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
農業跟學校飲食供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
5607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
5609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
的連結強化在地食材的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
5609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
5611.65 |
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那我想這個部分也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
5611.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
5613.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
視為這個所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
5613.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
5615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
我們午餐教育 |
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5615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
5617.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
的一環喔 那從源頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
5617.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
5619.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
來解決這樣子的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
5619.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
5621.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
以外喔 那是不是也可以 |
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5623.65 |
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參酌就是把這個當地在地 |
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5623.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
5625.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
的食材的運用這個部分也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
5625.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
5627.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
列進去 好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
5630.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
5632.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
5632.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
5634.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
這個食農教育我們都很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
5634.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
5636.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
那現在這個克志恩羅廷瑋版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
5636.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
5638.27 |
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修正動議其實就是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
5638.27 |
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5640.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
版的再多加一款 |
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5640.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
5642.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
那精神上面其實我都很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
5642.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
5644.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
不過我的問題是在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
5644.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
5646.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
因為食農教育法2022年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
5646.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
5648.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
頒布之後 其實那個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
5648.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
5650.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
這個食農教育法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
5650.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
5652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
其實都已經有寫明了 像這個均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
5652.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
5654.27 |
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營養啊 然後要徵洗食物啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
5654.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
5656.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
然後要有這個教育啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
5656.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
5658.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
等等 所以可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
5658.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
5660.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
就請庭外委員要說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
5660.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
5662.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
所以是說未來我們飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
5662.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
5664.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
就是等同於食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
5664.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
5666.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
這是同樣一件事 還是說這是分開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
5666.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
5668.27 |
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有什麼是目前你們覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
5668.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
5670.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
食農教育法還沒有訂到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
5670.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
5672.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
或是範圍沒有擴及的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
5672.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
5674.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
這部分我希望可以更明確一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
5674.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
5676.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
有點擔心說兩個法會疊床架物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
5682.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
5684.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
好 那是不是待會也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
5684.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
5686.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
大家可以就是說 |
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5686.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
5688.89 |
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盡量看我的 |
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5688.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
5690.89 |
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跟柯政委員的修正動力第五條 |
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5690.89 |
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5692.89 |
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其實我們跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
5692.89 |
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5694.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
教育部的建議文字沒有差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
5694.89 |
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5696.89 |
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再麻煩大家 那再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
5696.89 |
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5698.89 |
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范委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
5700.05 |
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5702.05 |
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那我還是要表達一下 |
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5702.05 |
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5704.05 |
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因為我從上一屆提出的時候 |
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5704.05 |
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5706.05 |
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就有放了那個 |
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5706.05 |
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5708.05 |
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息食的部分 還有多元 |
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5708.05 |
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5710.05 |
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飲食文化的部分 那我很高興 |
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5710.05 |
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5712.05 |
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在教育部的建議文字當中 |
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5712.05 |
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5714.05 |
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有放進去 因為我覺得 |
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5714.05 |
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5716.05 |
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這個對台灣的不管是多族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
5716.05 |
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5718.05 |
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或者是我們也有越來越多的 |
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5718.05 |
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5720.05 |
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國際生 那多元飲食文化 |
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5720.05 |
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5722.05 |
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很重要 那息食的部分也非常的 |
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5722.05 |
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5724.05 |
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重要 可以減少食物 |
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5724.05 |
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5726.05 |
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的浪費 那也能夠 |
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5726.05 |
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5728.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
讓剩食減量的部分 |
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5728.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
5730.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
從學校做起 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
5731.42 |
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5733.42 |
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好 蔡主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
5734.59 |
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5736.59 |
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好 謝謝主席 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
5736.59 |
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5738.59 |
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第五條呢 正會這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
5738.59 |
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5740.59 |
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七項 原則上我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
5740.59 |
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5742.59 |
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非常同意 也非常多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
5742.59 |
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5744.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
那剛剛柯知恩委員 |
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5744.59 |
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5746.59 |
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也提到了第七 |
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5746.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
5748.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
的這個部分呢 那我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
5748.59 |
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5750.59 |
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是覺得說 我們再把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
5750.59 |
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5752.59 |
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具體化 就是說 |
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5752.59 |
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5754.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
再把它 |
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5754.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
5756.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
內寫認識在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
5756.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
5758.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
在地地產地銷這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
5758.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
5760.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
能夠把它具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
5760.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
5762.59 |
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就是認識在地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
5762.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
5764.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
農漁系產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
5764.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
5766.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
把這個加進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
5766.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
5768.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
更具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
5768.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
5770.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
這個僅供參考 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
5771.8 |
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5773.8 |
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好 謝謝委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
5773.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
5775.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
我們把第七個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
5775.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
5777.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
也剛剛說的 大家列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
5777.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
5779.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
進去 那我想 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
5779.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
5781.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
訂這個的條文 也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
5781.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
5783.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
參考到 我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
5783.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
5785.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
志祥委員也印象很深刻啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
5785.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
5787.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
那我們也在這個日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
5787.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
5789.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
實際了解下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
5789.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
5791.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
發現他們對於這個地產地銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
5791.8 |
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5793.8 |
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的一個建議啊 這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
5793.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
5795.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
他們都很落實 讓孩子知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
5795.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
5797.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
那感恩息食這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
5797.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
5799.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
也是有助於處理源頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
5799.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
5801.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
不要浪費 不要多餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
5801.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
5803.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
的一些廚餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
5803.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
5805.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
造成後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
5805.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
5807.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
預算 要去消耗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
5807.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
5809.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
然後來處理廚餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
5809.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
5811.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
那所以 呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
5811.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
5813.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
署長應該跟我編列在同一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
5813.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
5815.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
日本的班級 那我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
5815.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
5817.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
當時對於廚餘的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
5817.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
5819.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
是非常少 所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
5819.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
5821.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
印象很深刻 也希望說這個部分放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
5821.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
5823.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
那是不是請教育部回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
5828.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
5830.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
謝謝昭偉 剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
5830.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
5832.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
呃 有七位人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
5832.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
5834.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
再加上昭偉有些補充 我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
5834.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
5836.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
很緊要的說明 首先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
5836.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
5838.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
這一個條文是經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
5838.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
5840.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
5840.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
5842.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
還有學校的一些專家所討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
5842.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
5844.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
結合現在的飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
5844.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
5846.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
以及我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
5846.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
5848.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
5848.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
5850.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
指導內容 也就是說結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
5850.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
5852.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
這課綱 跟我們所頒布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
5852.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
5854.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
飲食指導的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
5854.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
5856.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
用最有效的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
5856.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
5858.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
讓老師 學校知道怎麼推 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
5858.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
5860.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
5860.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
5862.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
這個在面向上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
5862.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
5864.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
盡量整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
5864.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
5866.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
讓老師可以覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
5866.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
5868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
他們可以做得不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
5868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
5870.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
那現在委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
5870.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
5872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
有增加第五條標題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
5872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
5874.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
就增加食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
5874.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
5876.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
以及內涵增加勞動成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
5876.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
5878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
減少食物浪費 以及地產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
5878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
5880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
地銷這幾個觀念 我跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
5880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
5882.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
做個報告一下 因為這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
5882.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
5884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
第一 剛才吳佩儀委員也關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
5884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
5886.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
到食農教育這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
5887.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
5889.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
這一部分有食農教育專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
5891.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
5893.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
那我們現在擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
5893.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
5895.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
如果我們現在列食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
5895.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
5897.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
那可能就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
5897.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
5899.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
有 從裡面可以看出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
5899.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
5901.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
環境教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
5900.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
5902.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
在裡面又可以看出食安教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
5902.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
5904.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
這些在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
5904.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
5906.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
而言 因為那些專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
5906.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
5908.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
可以有專門的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
5908.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
5910.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
我們整個可以在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
5910.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5912.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
教飲食教育 所以原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5912.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5914.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
用飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5914.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5916.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
老師覺得應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5916.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5918.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
教育界內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5918.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5920.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
算滿能接受 也是課綱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5920.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5922.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
以及歷來飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5922.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5924.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
指導的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5924.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5926.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
所以如果在其他專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5926.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5928.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
有提到的 是不是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5928.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
跟地方政府以及一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5932.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
專家老師覺得應該在那個專法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5932.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5934.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
有他推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5934.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
在本專法內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5938.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
是不是能夠盡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5938.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5940.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
著墨在我們學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5940.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5942.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
或是地方主管 教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5943.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5945.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
那此外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5944.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5946.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
像這一類觀念下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5947.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5949.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
包含感恩 惜食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5949.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5951.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
其實就是趙薇剛剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5951.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5953.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
那多提了減少食物浪費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5953.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5955.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
這一個其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5955.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5957.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
惜食這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5957.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5959.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
其實它是一整包 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5959.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5961.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
那在外加減少食物浪費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5961.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5963.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
這六個字的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5963.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5965.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
會變成它在技術上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5965.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5967.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
要做處理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5967.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5969.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
我建議 其實會讓學校的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5971.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5973.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
覺得說好像這個本來已經有整合了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5973.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5975.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
那如果再增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5975.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5977.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
惜食這個會有一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5977.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5979.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
在減少食物浪費上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5979.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5981.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
會有操作的彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5981.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5983.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
跟一個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5983.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5985.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
額外的可能的時候他們會擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5985.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5987.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
因為原來在惜食就已經處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5987.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5989.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
最後一個地產地銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5989.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5991.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
最後報告完就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5991.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5993.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
其實在原來第六點的實在來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5993.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5995.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
就已經有處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5995.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5997.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
如果在加 還有後面的剛才委員問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5997.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5999.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
要優先採用在第十六條會提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5999.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
6001.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
我們這個原來條文是有整合過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
6001.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
6003.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
用最 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
6003.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
6005.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
恰當的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
6005.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
6007.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
讓學校推的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
6007.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
6009.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
是他們的主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
6009.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
6011.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
可能我怕再提可能會一直外加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
6011.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
6013.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
這一點上怕增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
6013.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
6015.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
現在老師已經很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
6015.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
6017.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
來幫忙在外加太多的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
6017.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
6019.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
學校也已經非常辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
6019.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
6021.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
想要把它處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
6021.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
6023.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
那原來也答應這些事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
6023.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
6025.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
應該已經有在裡面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
6025.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
6027.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
大概以上做補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
6027.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
6029.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
好那我們就照教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
6029.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
6031.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
建議版本修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
6032.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
6034.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
6034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
6036.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
那請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
6035.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
6037.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
教育部內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
6040.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
6042.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
6041.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
6043.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
要讀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
6043.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
6045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
6044.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
6046.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
6046.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
6048.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
因為你們有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
6048.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
6050.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
麻煩你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
6050.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
6052.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
6052.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
6056.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
學校得透過辦理學校午餐推動飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
6057.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
6059.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
達成下列目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
6059 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
6061 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
6059.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
6061.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
奢取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
6061.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
6063.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
均衡營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
6063.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
6065.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
維持身心健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
6065.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
6067.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
6066.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
6068.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
培養用餐禮儀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
6068.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
6070.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
並養成良好飲食習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
6071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
6073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
6072.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
6076.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
促進對生命及自然環境之尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
6076.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
6078.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
四 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
6078.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
6080.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
學習感恩習實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
6080.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
6082.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
6081.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
6085.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
認識與尊重傳統及多元飲食文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
6086.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
6088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
六 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
6088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
6090.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
了解食材來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
6089.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
6091.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
生產加工食物選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
6092.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
6096.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
餐飲製備過程及食品衛生安全維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
6096.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
6098.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
6098.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
6100.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
6101.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
6103.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
6103.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
6105.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
6105.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
6107.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
那不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
6107.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
6109.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
因為醫師人員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
6109.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
6111.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
我們要處理這個補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
6111.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
6117.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
委員林怡錦針對上午本院第十一屆第五會期本會第二十二次會議向本會請假列入公報記錄以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
6117.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
6119.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
6119.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
6121.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
6121.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
6123.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
那第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
6123.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
6125.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
台灣民眾黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
6125.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
6127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
6127.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
6129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
等十個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
6129.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
6131.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
6131.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
6133.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
6133.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
6135.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
6135.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
6137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
6137.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
6139.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
6139.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
6141.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
6141.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
6143.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
6143.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
6145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
6145.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
6147.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
6147.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
6149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
6149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
6151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
6151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
6153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
6153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
6155.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
6155.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
6157.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
6133.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
6135.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
好請大家翻閱到第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
6140.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
6147.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
那我們的電視螢幕還是依照教育部的建議版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
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好來 |
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6149.2 |
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6151.2 |
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是不是請委員發言 |
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如果沒有的話我們就持續推進 |
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6155.8 |
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來柯志銘委員 |
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6155.8 |
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6157.8 |
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請委員我們盡量簡短發言 |
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6157.8 |
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是我第六條其實和教育部差不多 |
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但是我個人認為應該是增加 |
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6165.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
食材來源食品安全感恩息實 |
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就是增加這幾句 |
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6167.8 |
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6173.8 |
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我覺得這能夠讓這整個的條文看起來會更加的一個明確一點 |
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我簡單發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
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好是不是陳秀華委員 |
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6179.8 |
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拜託拜託我們請簡短發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
6179.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
6181.8 |
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謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
6181.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
6183.8 |
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這個部分我對教育部的建議文是沒有意見 |
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6187.8 |
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但是我要呼應一下柯志銘委員剛才所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
6187.8 |
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6191.8 |
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那這個食材來源以及相關的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
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我覺得在地的學文化這個我還是滿care |
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很希望說是可以有這個部分 |
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6199.8 |
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但是我尊重委員們的討論謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
6199.8 |
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6201.8 |
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好就我所知道不管是高雄或者是彰化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
6201.8 |
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這個農產品的產銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
6203.8 |
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6205.8 |
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也很值得被關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
6207.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
在地的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
6207.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
6209.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
柯志銘委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
6211.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
6213.36 |
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我還是要特別提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
6219.36 |
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就是說事實上羅廷瑋召委排的這個日本營養午餐的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
6219.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
6221.36 |
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真的是印象非常非常深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
6221.36 |
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6225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
其中也包括說今天怎麼去宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
6225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
6229.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
來去宣傳這個健康的一個飲食的一個習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
6229.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
6231.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
透過營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
6231.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
6233.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
所以他們有專責機構再來宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
6233.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
6235.36 |
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我還記得去參訪的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
6235.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
6237.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
他們的那個中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
6237.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
6239.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
中心有提出很多他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
6239.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
6243.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
真的很精美的一些明信片小物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
6243.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
6246.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
都是在宣傳他們在地的飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
6246.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
6249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
然後他們也會做成一些很有趣的宣傳片 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
6249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
6251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
我舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
6251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
6253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
那時候我們有看到他們做一個那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
6253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
6255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
怎麼去吃魚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
6257.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
6259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
秋刀魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
6259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
6261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
如何吃魚教孩子吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
6261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
6263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
教秋刀魚吃的步驟1 2 3 4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
6263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
6265.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
怎麼去吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
6265.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
6267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
教完以後在教之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
6267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
6269.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
其實那個魚都吃不完的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
6269.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
6271.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
小朋友不知道怎麼吃魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
6271.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
6273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
就吃不完但是教完以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
6273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
6275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
通通乾乾淨淨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
6275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
6277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
全部吃得乾乾淨淨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
6277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
6279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
那我跟羅廷瑋我們有直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
6279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
6281.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
跟小朋友一起吃營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
6281.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
6283.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
我不知道你的那一班是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
6283.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
6285.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
我們那一班我特別去看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
6285.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
6287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
全部吃得乾乾淨淨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
6287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
6289.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
所以也沒有任何所謂的那個剩食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
6289.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
6291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
那因此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
6291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
6293.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
我認為這個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
6293.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
6295.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
我們的這個相關的一個宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
6295.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
6297.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
不只是寄望這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
6297.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
6299.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
執行的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
6299.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
6301.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
我相信國教署署長那時候跟我們一起去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
6301.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
6303.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
應該也收穫很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
6303.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
6305.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
執行端的部分也非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
6305.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
6307.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
那怎麼樣讓營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
6307.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
6309.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
它不只是提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
6309.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
6311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
營養不只是提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
6311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
6313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
今天照顧也包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
6313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
6315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
怎麼樣是宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
6315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
6317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
健康的所謂的飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
6317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
6319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
以及包括我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
6319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
6321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
飲食的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
6321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
6323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
這是一個非常重要的著力點以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
6326.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
6328.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
6328.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
6330.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
我也發言一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
6330.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
6332.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
那也感謝秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
6332.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
6334.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
柯志恩委員還有我們羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
6334.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
6336.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
那我也是想要再呼應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
6336.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
6338.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
他們剛剛說的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
6338.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
6340.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
那我認為我們在上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
6340.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
6342.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
考察日本營養午餐的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
6342.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
6344.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
有一個很特別的案例跟大家分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
6344.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
6346.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
假設我拿秀寶委員的選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
6346.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
6348.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
假設您的選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
6348.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
6350.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
有產出一個蔬菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
6350.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
6352.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
非常量很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
6352.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
6354.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
可是孩子就不喜歡吃那個蔬菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
6354.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
6356.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
結果日本假設啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
6356.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
6358.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
因為小朋友不喜歡吃蔬菜嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
6358.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
6360.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
那結果日本他們就說針對這項蔬菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
6360.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
6362.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
他把它做成奶酥 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
6363.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
6365.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
變成奶酥的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
6365.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
6367.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
後面奶酥給孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
6367.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
6369.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
然後加入到這個蔬菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
6369.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
6371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
他們特別去調製這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
6371.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
6373.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
內容讓孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
6373.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
6375.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
一樣攝取到了這個蔬食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
6375.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
6377.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
但是用不同的方式來呈現料理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
6377.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
6379.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
所以我覺得在地食材的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
6379.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
6381.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
一個推廣跟運用跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
6381.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
6383.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
這個部分的即時廣義有其必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
6383.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
6385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
那以上簡單報告是不是請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
6385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
6387.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
就直接針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
6387.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
6389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
剛剛柯志恩委員在您的版本之上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
6389.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
6391.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
再多加那幾個字給予回應 |
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6391.86 |
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6393.86 |
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我們就直接推進 |
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6394.09 |
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6396.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
謝謝昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
6396.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
6398.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
剛剛柯委員所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
6398.09 |
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6400.09 |
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那各位可以請看我們現在畫面上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
6400.09 |
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6402.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
這一個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
6402.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
6404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
那這個專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
6404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
6406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
是學校的午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
6406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
6408.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
再加飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
6408.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
6410.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
所以飲食教育在這本專法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
6410.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
6412.9 |
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也有一個很重要的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
6414.4 |
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6416.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
第六條在提的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
6416.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
6418.4 |
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他特別對推飲食教育的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
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其中有一個方法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
6422.4 |
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不要讓學校自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
6422.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
獨立處理而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
6424.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
6426.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
要結合家庭社區民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
6426.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
6428.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
所以他是集中在飲食教育這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
6428.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
6430.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
整體已經說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
6430.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
6432.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
所以我們也是跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
6432.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
6434.4 |
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跟老師都處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
6434.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
6436.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
說如果推飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
6436.4 |
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6438.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
大概就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
6438.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
6440.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
這裡主要去談 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
6442.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
這一些一起來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
6442.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
6444.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
不再多談主題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
6444.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
6446.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
這樣其實已經整體性足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
6446.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
6448.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
那這裡多提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
6448.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
6450.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
我們大家怎麼結合重力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
6450.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
6452.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
大概是合力推動的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
6452.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
6454.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
比較不是涉及到推主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
6454.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
6456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
因為主題已經在上面有寫過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
6456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
6458.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
是不是尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
6458.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
6460.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
這個現場的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
6460.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
6462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
已經有在第五條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
6462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
6464.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
內容上已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
6464.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
6466.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
完整的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
6466.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
6468.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
第六條主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
6468.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
6470.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
在推的時候能夠結合一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
6470.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
6472.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
大家的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
6472.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
6474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
6474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
6476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
條文的分布上是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
6476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
6478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
第五條講的是主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
6478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
6480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
剛剛已經有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
6480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
6482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
第六條講的是結合重力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
6482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
6484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
而不是在這裡再多談一些主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
6484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
6486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
他已經講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
6486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
6488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
本專法是飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
6488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
6490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
所以在推飲食教育的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
6490.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
6492.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
應該要結合大家的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
6492.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
6494.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
就不再又外加一些主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
6494.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
6496.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
因為主題已經在第五條講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
6496.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
6498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
大家會確定第五條的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
6498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
6500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
也是大家在工作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
6500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
6502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
也認同這麼多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
6502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
6504.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
大家都在努力這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
6504.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
6506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
所以以上是跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
6506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
6508.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
還有一些專家請議之後的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
6508.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
6510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
請委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
6510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
6512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
再給我們指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
6512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
6514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
柯志銳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
6514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
6516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
在葉運志委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
6516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
6518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
這一條純粹為什麼要特別提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
6518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
6520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
食材來源跟食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
6520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
6522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
還有息食 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
6522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
6524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
我不曉得署長你說怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
6524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
6526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
呼應第五條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
6526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
6528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
已經在目標提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
6528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
6530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
我沒有看到你是哪一條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
6530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
6532.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
因為我們只是因為依目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
6532.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
6534.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
大家認為食材跟食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
6534.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
6536.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
是非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
6536.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
6538.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
所以反而是在這裡面去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
6538.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
6540.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
強化這樣的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
6540.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
6542.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
那我覺得這個強化概念跟教育部本身的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
6542.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
6544.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
一個版本裡面並沒有互相的違和 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
6544.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
6546.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
只是透過這幾個字句裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
6546.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
6548.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
更強化它的一個重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
6548.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
6550.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
那你剛剛說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
6550.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
6552.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
跟第五條裡面的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
6552.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
6554.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
已經完全詢問在食安跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
6554.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
6556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
食材的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
6556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
6558.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
在第五條哪個層面上面已經達到這樣的一個目標了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
6558.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
6560.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
6560.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
6562.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
那請委員看一下剛剛所通過的第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
6562.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
6564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
第五條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
6564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
6566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
6566.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
6568.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
可不可以上一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
6567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
6569.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
天府上一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
6570.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
6572.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
一開始就開宗明義說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
6572.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
6574.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
要推飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
6574.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
6576.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
所以第五條推飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
6576.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
6578.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
跟第六條都推飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
6578.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6580.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
第五條講推飲食教育的六件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
6580.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6582.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
第六條是增加推飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6582.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6584.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
是不要學校自己處理而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6584.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6586.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
好那第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6586.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6588.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
剛剛委員有請教到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6588.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6590.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
其實在食安在第六的尾巴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6590.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6592.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6592.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6594.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
所以內容上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6594.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6596.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
是放在第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6596.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6598.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
那大家也同意不要一直增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6598.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6600.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
因為已經滿完整了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6600.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6602.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
第六條是講要增加一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6602.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6604.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
大家合力的可能的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6604.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6606.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
大概是佈局上是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6606.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6608.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
請大家請各位委員再給我們指導參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6608.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6610.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6611.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6613.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
來 葉子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6615.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
我看這個第五條 第六條大概意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
是希望說辦理第五項目標的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
應該要一些做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6625.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
而且提到就是說會對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6625.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6627.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
合作的單位會進行一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6627.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6629.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
協助跟獎勵 大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6629.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6631.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
但是我覺得有些文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6631.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6633.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
訂的不是很清楚耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6633.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6635.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
因為他說應結合家庭與社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6635.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6637.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
及民間團體之能力及資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6637.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6639.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6639.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6641.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
請問社區跟民間團體要怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6642.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6644.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
這個會不會有重疊地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6644.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6646.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
或是有一些民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6646.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6648.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
也在社區裡面嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6648.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6650.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
所以你這樣訂的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6650.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6652.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
到時候學校因為前面有寫因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6652.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6654.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
那學校在辦活動的時候就會想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6654.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6656.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
那家庭的部分是什麼 那我還要去想一個社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6656.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6658.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
然後再找一個民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6658.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6660.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
我覺得有點複雜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6659.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6661.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
那我原本我的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6661.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6663.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
是直接把它寫成就是家庭跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6663.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6665.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
社會人力資源 其實社會人力資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6665.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6669.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
就是韓瓜社區跟民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6669.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6671.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6671.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6673.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
定義可能我認為比較清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6673.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6675.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6676.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6678.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
好 那我們來看一下文字喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6681.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6683.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
針對葉志委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6683.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6685.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
我們簡短回應好不好 請教一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6685.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6687.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
我簡短回應 謝謝趙委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6687.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6689.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
所謂社區是指 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6689.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6691.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
他這個學校所在的包含鄰里等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6691.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6693.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
常常會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6693.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6695.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
相關的從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6695.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6697.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
種植到甚至到最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6697.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6699.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
在餐桌上 這樣子在社區上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6699.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6701.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
就能夠完成 所謂民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6701.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6703.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
是有時候我們會去跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6703.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6705.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
民間團體合辦一些比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6705.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6707.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
其他的活動 例如 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6707.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6709.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
會讓廚師能夠精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6709.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6711.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
廚藝 廚師來精進廚藝等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6711.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6713.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
那個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6713.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6715.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
有時候不一定是社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6715.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6717.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
直接跟孩子做了剛剛那個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6717.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6719.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
所以這裡可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6719.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
經由專家的提醒是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6723.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
多個面向可以在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6723.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6725.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
進行飲食教育 它的豐富度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6725.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6727.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
以第五條來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6727.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
它的六個面向蠻豐富的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6731.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
所以當時就有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6731.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
可以就近的結合社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6735.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
也可以結合專家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6735.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
民間的團體的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
所以說從整體的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
人力資源 應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
也是一個好方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
原來的建議是讓它 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
在好方向的同時稍微的提示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
清楚一點 讓學校在工作的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
有一個方向 以上補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6753.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6755.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
好 那我們是不是就先看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6756.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6758.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
我們的教育部的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6759.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6761.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
那請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
這個部分我們就依照教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6765.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6767.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
好 請教育部宣讀一下 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6768.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6770.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6770.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6772.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
學校依前條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6772.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6774.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
推動飲食教育時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6774.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6776.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
應結合家庭與社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6776.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6778.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
及民間團體之人力及資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6780.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6784.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
辦理健康飲食及建立正確飲食生活習慣等相關活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6786.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6788.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
主管機關對於推動飲食教育之學校機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6791.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6793.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
民間團體及人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6793.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6795.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
應予協助及獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6798.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6800.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
那是不是我們就依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6803.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6805.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
教育部的建議文字修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6805.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6809.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
那謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6808.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6810.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6810.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6812.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6812.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6814.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
委員柯志恩等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6814.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6816.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
第四條等11個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6816.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6818.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
以及委員羅庭瑋柯志恩等人所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6820.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6822.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
我們看到第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6825.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6827.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
這部分是不是直接請我們的教育部就說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6827.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6829.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
因為這比較單純 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6829.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6831.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6831.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6833.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
那因為委員的提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6833.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6835.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
剛才柯委員也說是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6835.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6837.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
是不是就請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6837.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6839.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
請召委確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6839.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6841.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6841.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6843.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
這個我代勞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6843.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6845.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
第七條學校與學期間學生到校日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6845.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6847.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
以供應學生午餐為原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6847.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6849.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
海鼠假期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6849.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6851.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
學校得勢需要供應學生午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6855.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6857.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6857.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6859.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
就照教育部修正的通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6859.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6861.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
教育部建議的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6861.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6863.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6862.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6864.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
我們持續推進喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6868.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6870.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
第八條台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6870.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6872.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
第八條等36個提案以及委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6872.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6874.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
羅庭瑋柯志恩等人所提的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6876.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6878.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
好第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6884.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6886.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
來柯志恩委員請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6886.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6888.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
我覺得第八條其實跟教育部也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6888.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6890.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
只是我覺得在第二項的最後幾句話上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6890.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6892.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
如果可以把它改的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6892.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6894.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
做一些文字修訂會更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6894.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6896.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
像我就可以念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6896.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6898.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
除依前項規定方式辦理外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6898.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6904.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
並得經學校午餐供應會或相關會議決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6904.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6906.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
以其他適當方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6909.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6911.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
我覺得文字的修正可以變成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6911.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6913.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
不曉得教育部的意見如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6913.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
我再說一次喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6917.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
並得經學校午餐供應會或相關會議決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6917.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
以其他適當方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
意指都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
只是文字比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
我覺得比較洗練一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6926.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6928.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
好 哲修馬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6928.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6930.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
部長您要回應是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6930.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6932.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
就柯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6932.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6934.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
他一次去掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6934.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
好 那請我們現場的螢幕稍微修整一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6938.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
教育部目前同意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6939.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6941.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
並得經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6943.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6947.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
並得經學校午餐供應會或相關會議決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6947.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6949.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
以其他適當方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6951.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6953.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
以其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6955.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6957.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
適當方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6958.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6960.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
辦理 OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6960.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6962.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
秀巴委員請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6962.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6964.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6964.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6966.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
這第八條嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6966.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6968.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
在我的部分呢對應是我的版本裡面是第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6968.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6970.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
那我在我的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6970.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6972.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
有針對第三項及第十項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6972.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6974.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
是希望說廚房及相關設備設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6974.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6976.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
跟修繕呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6976.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6978.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
應該先考量資源永續跟環境的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6978.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6980.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
另外也訂定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6980.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6982.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
要得設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6982.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6984.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
獨立用餐空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6984.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6986.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
的這個規定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6986.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6988.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
廚房的設備永續的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6988.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6990.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
本席就認為說這是蠻重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6990.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6992.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
那廚房的修繕及經費也會有一些影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6992.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6994.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
那這個部分是不是教育部你們可以參查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6994.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6996.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
那這個部分是不是教育部你們可以參查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6996.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
就是說在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6998.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
7000.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
就是廚房的設施設備的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
7000.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
7002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
那設置獨立用餐空間這個部分本席是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
7002.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
7004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
各校可以自行評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
7004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
7006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
因為有的學校的空間可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
7006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
7008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
因為有的學校的空間可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
7008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
7010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
有沒有辦法這樣子設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
7010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
7012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
這個我沒有堅持一定要入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
7012.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
7014.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
但是在廚房設備的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
7014.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
7016.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
是不是大家可以討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
7016.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
7018.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
7017.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
7019.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
7019.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
7021.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
那教育部是不是我們就利用這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
7023.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
7025.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
7025.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
7027.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
7031.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
7033.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
7033.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
7035.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
可以啊可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
7035.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
7037.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
你要納入我當然沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
7037.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
7039.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
剛剛修法委員的意見我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
7039.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
7041.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
修法委員意見是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
7041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
7043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
主實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
7042.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
7044.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
廚房的部分學校都要設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
7046.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
7048.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
7049.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
7051.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
7050.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
7052.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
是有的學校是有自設廚房 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
7052.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
7053.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
有的沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
7053.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
7055.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
那如果他是有自設廚房的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
7055.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
7059.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
所以這個廚房跟相關設備的這個修繕更新是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
7059.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
7061.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
就是考量是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
7061.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
7064.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
資源永續跟環境的安全這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
7068.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
7070.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
這個設計到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
7070.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
7072.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
委員是說對他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
7072.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
7074.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
做補助呢還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
7074.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
7076.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
7076.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
7080.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
主食東西的時候要注意資源永續的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
7080.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
7084.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
飲食或是餐桌的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
7084.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
7086.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
還設備的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
7086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
7088.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
廚具設備本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
7088.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
7090.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
我們有些補助是在第九條以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
7090.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
7092.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
7092.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
7094.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
如果要講補助是在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
7094.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
7096.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
那這邊比較講是整體的公餐形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
7096.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
7098.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
並且給高中一個彈性大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
7098.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
7100.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
7100.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
7102.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
那我來念一次喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
7102.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
7104.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
第八條學校供應學生午餐得以下列方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
7104.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
7106.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
一自設廚房供應學生午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
7106.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
7108.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
以下簡稱自辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
7110.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
7112.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
二 由鄰近學校供應學生午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
7112.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
7114.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
三 自設廚房委外辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
7114.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
7116.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
四 外訂和統餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
7119.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
7121.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
高級中等學校供應學生午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
7121.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
7123.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
除以前項規定之方式辦理外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
7123.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
7125.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
並得經學校午餐供應會或相關會議決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
7125.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
7127.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
以其他適當方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
7138.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
7140.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
7142.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
7144.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
7144.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
7146.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
好 我們今天剛剛所念的修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
7148.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
7150.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
好 第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
7155.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
7157.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
好 第九條就是我們今天重中之重了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
7157.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
7159.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
那也歡迎大家提出您的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
7161.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
7163.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
那我先請陳秀芳委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
7165.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
7167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
7167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
7169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
這個第九條的部分對應到我自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
7169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
7171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
是放在17條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
7171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
7173.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
那剛才我在第八條的時候講到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
7173.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
7175.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
廚房設備的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
7175.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
7177.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
那署長有回答說應該是放在第九條來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
7177.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
7181.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
因為相關的這個偏遠地區或者說一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
7181.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
7183.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
7184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
7188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
有些設備呢這個中央主管機關的補助是放在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
7188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
7192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
那在這裡呢我想要表達的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
7192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
7194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
我們學校飲食的辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
7194.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
7198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
其實主要還是仰賴各地方政府的高度自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
7198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
7200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
那因此呢我覺得相關的經費的細項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
7200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
7202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
如果在模仿上訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
7202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
7206.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
其實有時候跟各縣市政府他們本身的自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
7206.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
7212.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
跟他們跟學校之間他們有一些所需要調整的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
7212.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
7214.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
如果在模仿上訂定了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
7214.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
7218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
那如果他們有要做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
7218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
7222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
或是他們本身他們自己在經費上有餘裕想要做的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
7222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
7224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
是不是會就變成受限了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
7224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
7227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
那現在那個中央補助有關學校飲食的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
7227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
7229.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
主要還是有弱勢跟偏鄉為主喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
7229.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
7231.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
所以以這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
7231.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
7233.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
我是支持教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
7233.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
7235.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
7237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
7239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
好 再來柯志文委員再來郭議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
7241.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
7243.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
好 承儒大家知道喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
7243.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
7245.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
其實這整部的營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
7245.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
7247.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
就是第九條跟第十四條是最重要的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
7247.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
7249.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
那第九條來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
7249.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
7251.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
我們就是牽涉到裁員跟補助喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
7251.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
7253.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
我覺得真的只要有中央補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
7253.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
7255.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
我們地方都非常樂意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
7255.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
7257.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
但是實在是沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
7257.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
7259.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
所以我們來看看怎麼樣可以讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
7259.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
7261.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
所謂比較裁員缺乏的這個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
7261.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
7263.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
也能夠得到有好的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
7263.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
7265.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
所以第九條的第一項當中喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
7265.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
7267.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
除了由主管機關補助這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
7267.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
7269.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
其收費機制補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
7269.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
7271.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
7271.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
7273.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
我又增加了一個補助項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
7273.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
7275.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
以及其他相關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
7275.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
7277.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
所以我增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
7277.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
7279.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
在第一項部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
7279.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
7281.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
除了額度之外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
7281.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
7283.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
我還加入了補助項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
7283.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
7285.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
7285.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
7287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
然後第二項的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
7287.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
7289.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
其實是我們就增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
7289.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
7291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
前項學生午餐費之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
7291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
7293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
費額考量因素決定程序物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
7293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
7295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
及我這邊有特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
7295.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
7297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
增加的食材成本變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
7297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
7299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
因為這個部分呢就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
7299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
7301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
過去沒有提到但是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
7301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
7303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
食材成本的變動其實會影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
7303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
7305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
很多所以在第二項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
7305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
7307.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
裡面增加的食材成本的變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
7307.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
7309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
那第三項呢是跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
7309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
7311.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
完全一致喔第三項我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
7311.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
7313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
不要做任何的一個修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
7313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
7315.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
第五項也完全一致也不用做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
7315.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
7317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
修改我們增加的是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
7317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
7319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
重要就是第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
7319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
7321.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
我們特別增加的第四項就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
7321.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
7323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
前項補助的包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
7323.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
7325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
學生餐費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
7325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
7327.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
食材可塑食材與在地食材採用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
7327.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
7329.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
食材運銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
7329.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
7331.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
廚房設備營養師學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
7331.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
7333.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
執行秘書廚房人員及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
7333.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
7335.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
必要支持人力或措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
7335.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
7337.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
或許你們會認為這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
7337.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
7339.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
把它寫到這個法裡面有點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
7339.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
7341.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
有一點太過瑣碎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
7341.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
7343.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
但無論如何我只是要表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
7343.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
7345.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
這些的補助必須要包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
7345.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
7347.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
這些至於你是要放在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
7347.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
7349.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
地方或是額外用辦法我都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
7349.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
7351.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
但是我還是強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
7351.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
7353.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
這些補助必須要涵蓋這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
7353.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
7355.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
因為這才是整個讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
7355.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
7357.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
整部營養午餐得以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
7357.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
7359.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
順利還有呼應全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
7359.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
7361.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
營養師公會裡面大家的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
7361.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
7363.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
所以請教育部在這個精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
7363.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
7365.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
上面去給予最大的一個尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
7368.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
7370.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
好我們接下來是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
7370.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
7372.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
國籍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
7372.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
7374.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
這個部分我的版本是放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
7374.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
7376.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
這個第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
7376.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
7378.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
對應到我的這個第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
7378.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
7380.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
我要在這邊要特別說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
7380.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
7382.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
我看到部分委員提出的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
7382.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
7384.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
要中央地方各負擔1%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
7384.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
7386.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
這個主張這個有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
7386.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
7388.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
會產生的一個狀況就是像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
7388.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
7390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
台北市這些比較資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
7390.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
7392.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
比較多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
7392.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
7394.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
益住的這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
7394.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
7396.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
多會其實是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
7396.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
7398.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
不符合所謂的這個公平正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
7398.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
7400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
那從才化法修正之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
7400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
7402.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
其實才權已經給了地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
7402.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
7404.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
那理當其實應該也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
7404.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
7406.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
承擔事權的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
7406.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
7408.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
那這個時候如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
7408.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
7410.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
這個參費要由中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
7410.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
7412.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
在各分擔1% |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
7412.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
7414.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
那按照這樣子的一個邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
7414.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
7416.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
在各個縣市其實他們參費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
7416.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
7418.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
不一定的一個狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
7418.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
7420.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
我舉例來講如果是台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
7420.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
7422.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
國中75塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
7422.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
7424.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
那雲林縣國中50元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
7424.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
7426.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
那中央又要負責分擔這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
7426.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7428.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
台北市的學生大概37.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7428.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7430.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
那雲林縣的這個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7430.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7432.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
是25元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7432.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7434.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
那我想這個是會有一些公平性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7434.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7436.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
一個問題所以中央的這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7436.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7438.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
應該要精準的益住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7438.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7440.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
在這個偏遠跟弱勢的一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7440.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7442.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
來落實這個餐桌上的一個平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7442.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7444.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
那這是我對應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7444.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7446.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
我自己版本的第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7446.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7448.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7449.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7451.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7452.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7453.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7455.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7455.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7457.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7458.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7460.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
交一波回應謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7463.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7465.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
謝謝剛剛委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7465.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7467.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
其中我以柯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7467.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7469.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
這個版本跟大家做個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7469.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7471.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
柯委員剛才有舉出幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7471.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7473.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
項裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7473.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7475.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
應該要做什麼增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7475.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7477.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
以及剛才幾位委員有一些觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7477.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7479.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
統合起來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7480.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7482.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
首先在第一項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7482.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7484.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
增加項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7485.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7487.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
那這個其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7487.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7489.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
整體應該沒有特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
7489.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
7491.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
大礙我想柯委員應該也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7491.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7493.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
應該不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7493.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7495.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
特別著重在這點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7495.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7497.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7496.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7498.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
地方來商量應該是沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7498.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7500.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7500.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7504.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
在那個物價及食材成本變動這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7506.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7508.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
原來我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7508.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7510.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
相關的決定程序裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7511.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7513.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
是包含物價及食材成本變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7513.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7515.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
那本來就有含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7515.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7517.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
所以基本上委員要在明列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7517.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7519.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
當作本委員會重視的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7519.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
應該也不會有特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
問題本來是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7523.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7525.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
決定程序內要考量的項目之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7525.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
只是說程序跟項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7527.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7529.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
如果要分得更開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7529.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7531.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
那可能就會變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7531.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
可以把項目拉出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7533.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7535.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
倒是怕變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7535.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
7537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
只考慮這個的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
7537.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
7539.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
那我們可能要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
7539.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
7541.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
7542.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
7544.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
加一個等字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
7544.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
7546.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
前一項否則會變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
7547.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7549.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
你明列其一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7549.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
怕會有沒有排除其他的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
7551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
7553.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
7553.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
7555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
所以加一個等字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
7555.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
7557.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
怎麼順我們再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
7557.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
7559.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
有關到第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
7559.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
7561.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
接第四項要一起看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
7561.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7563.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
這裡的句子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7563.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
7565.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
主要的概念是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
7565.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
7567.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
中央主管機關依財力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
7567.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
7569.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
等等等來補助地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
7571.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
7573.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
然後再加上補助地方的什麼項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
7573.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
7575.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
在後面一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
7575.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
7577.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
有這麼多項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
7578.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
7580.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
7579.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
7581.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
那這裡報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
7581.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
7583.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
在115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
7584.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
7586.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
我們對委員講的這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
7586.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
7588.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
就會有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
7588.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
7590.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
比較無力感跟擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
7590.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
7592.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
7592.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7594.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
原來的討論中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
7594.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7596.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
向委員關心的國產食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7597.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7599.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
甚至偏鄉學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7600.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7602.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
補助以及弱勢學生的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
等等這三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7607.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
甚至到變相的廚房 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7607.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7609.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
營養師在114年以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7609.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7611.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7611.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7613.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
大概都合作的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7614.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7616.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
可是115年以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7616.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7618.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
剛剛委員有指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7618.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7620.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
就讓我們比較憂心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7618.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7620.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7620.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7622.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
我們舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7622.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7624.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
有幾個直轄市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7624.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7626.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
三項經費的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7626.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7628.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
隨便舉某一個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7628.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7630.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7628.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7630.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
弱勢學生的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7629.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7631.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
我們是移列過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7641.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7643.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
那也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7643.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7645.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
那個本來就要做這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7645.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7647.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
可是這邊又在寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7647.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7649.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
中央你又要再補一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7649.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7651.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
所以第一點上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7651.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7653.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
以移列的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7653.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7655.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
又要從母法要再增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7655.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7657.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
會有一點困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7657.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7659.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
所幸剛剛柯委員有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7659.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7661.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
覺得說文字或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7661.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7663.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
放半法還是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7663.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7665.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
都可以再斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7665.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7667.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
但精神上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
是不是有一些可以放半法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7669.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
因此這個回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7669.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7671.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
3月份部長帶領我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7671.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7673.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
去跟召委談到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7673.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
未來時事怎麼變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7675.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7677.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
也不一定很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
要不然在母法這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
講的是一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7681.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7683.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
要做什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7683.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7685.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
本委員會或立法院跟行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7685.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7687.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
高度講一個國家未來怎麼保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7687.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7689.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
孩子的吃跟各縣市的吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7689.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7691.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
那條文授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7691.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7693.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
定辦法讓這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7693.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7695.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
因為未來時可能會有點變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7695.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7697.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
由教育部跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7697.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7699.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
好好的會商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7700.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7702.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
所以這一些概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7702.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7704.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
定了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7704.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7706.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
留一個詞法當尾巴來做會商的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7706.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
當作一個母法授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
讓我們來操作這個細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7712.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
而不要在母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7712.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7714.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
定了一些可能目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7714.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
有多像在現況上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7718.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
我們如果講開來會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7718.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7720.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
跟現況的運作會有一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7720.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7722.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
不那麼的直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7722.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7724.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
好操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7724.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7726.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
是不是容許這個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7726.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7728.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
以上在最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7728.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7730.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
剛剛科委員所提版本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7730.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7732.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
三四項做一個更明確的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7732.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7734.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
以上補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7735.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7737.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
林志偉委員你要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7738.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7740.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7741.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7743.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
科委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7744.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7746.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
所以教育部是用你們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7746.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7748.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
對於我所增加的第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7748.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7750.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
你們未來需要用什麼樣的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7750.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7752.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
來呈現我們所關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7752.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7754.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
包括這 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7754.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7756.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
我剛剛所提到的這個項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7756.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7758.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
營養師廚房設備等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7758.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7760.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
這是大家最希望能夠看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7760.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7762.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
就是希望能夠在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7762.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7764.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
不管你用什麼方法總之要涵蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7764.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7766.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
這些的層面進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7766.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7768.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
因為這些層面進去才是會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7768.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7770.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
整個營養午餐有辦法動起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7770.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7772.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
有辦法執行起來在人力的各方面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7772.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
層次上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
所以你們現在打算是把它放在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7778.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
我比較關切的是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7778.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7780.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
我可以同意你說你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7780.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7782.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
你在這個魔法層次上面是做一個宣示性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7782.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7784.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
或者是比較是大方向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7784.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7786.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
但是你要用什麼方法來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7786.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7788.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
這項部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7788.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7790.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
你打算用什麼方法來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7791.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7793.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
為我們請看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7793.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7795.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7795.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7797.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
這個條文的倒數第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7799.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7801.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
倒數第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7801.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7803.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
各位文請看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7805.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7807.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7806.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7808.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
中央主管局長我們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7808.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7810.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
有一些責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7810.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7812.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
得以地方的財力集次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7812.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7814.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
學校地理位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7814.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7816.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
公餐這個等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7816.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7818.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
來補助主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7818.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7820.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
相關的像這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7820.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7822.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
弱勢經濟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7822.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7824.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
或是弱勢在偏鄉的這兩種弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7824.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7826.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7827.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7829.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
地方主管機關投入了資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7829.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7831.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7831.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
因為他有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7835.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
因為錢已經移過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7835.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7837.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
他如果不做可能要予以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7837.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7839.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
做一些沒有獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7839.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
有認真做的要予以獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
所以在整體的資源上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7845.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
因為以一列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7845.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7847.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
所以我們採你如果有照當時講好的一列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7847.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7849.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
來回到當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7849.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7851.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
74億有用出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7851.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7853.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
那我們應該要好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7853.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7855.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
予以獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7855.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7857.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
所以這一些縣市覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7857.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7859.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
他有把原來錢用得位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7859.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7861.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
然後他做的好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7861.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7863.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
更應該額外再給他獎勵金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7863.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7865.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
所以是兩種獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7865.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7867.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
一種是他做的好的還要額外給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7867.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7869.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
一種是在名義上給予這個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7869.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7871.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
重視學生午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7871.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7873.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
一個形象上的表揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7873.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7875.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
大概以上兩種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7875.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7877.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7877.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7879.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
署長的一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7879.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7881.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
可是因為這個第九條真的是自視體大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7881.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7883.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
所以召位本席是不是可以建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7883.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7885.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
所以這條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7885.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7887.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
第九條先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7887.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7889.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
其他我們往前推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7889.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7891.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
好這一條我們就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7891.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7893.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
我們繼續往前推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7893.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7895.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
下一條我們看到第十條委員林茜琪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7895.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7897.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
等二十一人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7897.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7899.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
第十八條等十七個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7899.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7901.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
以及委員羅廷瑋克志任題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7900.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7902.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
所提的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7902.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7904.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
好請委員舉手發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7904.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7906.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
如果沒有委員就發言我們請教育部直接來回應謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7921.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7923.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7925.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7924.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7926.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
各位我們請看第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7926.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7928.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
一個核心的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7928.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7930.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
第一項是在辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7930.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7932.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7932.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
這個相關的這個事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7936.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
要特別對偏鄉地區比較辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7936.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7938.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
這邊特別有講要怎麼幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7938.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7940.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
一個是實在上的幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7940.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7942.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
一個是在以往以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7942.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7944.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
我們對於太小的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7944.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7946.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
他在工作上需要很多的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7946.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
我們提供了一種以前以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7950.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
我們認為有效的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7950.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7952.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
就是用校群來實施的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7952.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
以上這第十條的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
特別是藉由以往成功的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
以及現實也在做的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
特別來列出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7962.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
可操作的務實的法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7970.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7972.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
好那有委員同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7972.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7974.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
那我們就照教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7976.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7978.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7979.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
第十條主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7983.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
會同農業主管機關協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7983.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7985.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
偏遠地區學校辦理學校午餐之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7987 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7989 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
啊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7991.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
8001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
在地食材供應事宜主管機關得協助偏遠地區學校推動校群實施聯合採購確保食材品質穩定減輕行政負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
8004.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
8007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
好修正通過照教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
8007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
8010.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
修正通過謝謝我們繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
8010.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
8012.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
第十一條台灣民眾黨提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
8012.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
8014.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
第五條第四十個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
8014.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
8018.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
以及委員羅庭瑋等人委員羅庭瑋柯志恩等人所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
8022.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
8024.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
好我們看到陳秀寶委員再來柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
8026.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
8028.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
8028.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
8032.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
在這一條十一條對我自己的版本是放在第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
8032.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
8035.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
那我也針對我自己的版本有提出一個再修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
8035.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
8041.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
將中央主管機關召開這會議更名為學校飲食及教育政策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
8041.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
8043.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
在條文裡面是這樣寫喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
8043.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
8045.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
教育部的建議條文是寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
8045.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
8049.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
中央主管機關為促進學校午餐品質及推動飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
8049.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
8052.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
應召開學校午餐工作諮詢會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
8052.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
8054.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
那我自己的版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
8054.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
8058.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
中央主管機關為推進學校飲食品質及飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
8058.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
8062.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
應組成學校飲食及教育政策會辦理事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
8062.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
8064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
這樣子的一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
8064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
8071.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
就是這樣子的更名會覺得比較能夠涵蓋會議辦理事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
8071.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
8077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
那本席也徵列了督導地方主管機關執行學校飲食公典一級 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
8078.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
8083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
飲食教育推動事項為中央主管機關權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
8083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
8088.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
學校的午餐的辦理其實高度仰賴地方政府的自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
8088.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
8091.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
所以需要中央主管機關來監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
8091.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
8096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
未來學校午餐的相關事項經費還是由中央與地方來分攤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
8096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
8103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
而且針對地方政府推動學校午餐事項也有應該有獎懲機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
8103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
8108.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
中央監督地方政府辦理情形也可以做相關的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
8108.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
8111.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
最後在會議組成成員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
8113.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
8118.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
本席也希望能夠有限制學校營養師的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
8118.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
8125.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
讓學校現場的聲音可以在這個午餐的這個工作的會議裡面提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
8125.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
8126.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
8129.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
8130.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
8134.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
8138.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
好 我在第一十一條裡面有關在第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
8138.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
8141.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
其實就是有關代表的成員部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
8141.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
8144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
我們就是這邊有地方主管機構代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
8144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
8149.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
我們很希望能夠加入限制學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
8149.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
8151.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
因為他代表他們在第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
8151.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
8155.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
他們應該比誰更清楚目前整個學校發展的真實的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
8155.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
8158.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
所以強力的建議說在這一款第四款當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
8158.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
8164.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
成員的部分裡面請包括限制學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
8164.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
8166.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
第二項 第二項對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
8167.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
8169.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
第二項的第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
8169.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
8170.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
8170.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
8171.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
國賓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
8171.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
8175.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
好 這個部分我的版本是對應到第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
8175.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
8178.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
那要求這個中央成立這個諮詢會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
8178.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
8182.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
我有特別強調也是在這個成員的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
8182.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
8185.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
是不是能夠納入家長跟學生的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
8185.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
8190.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
那這個部分我想這個布板的部分沒有把這個部分寫進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
8190.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
8194.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
那我想就是要納入使用者的心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
8194.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
8196.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
就是家長或者是學生的一個代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
8196.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
8200.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
和學生的一個代表才能夠確保這個公餐的透明化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
8200.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
8204.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
那避免這個營養午餐成為這個黑箱的一些決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
8204.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
8206.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
那這是我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
8206.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
8207.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
8209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
8211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
好 那請我們下一步回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
8212.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
8213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
8215.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
8217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
那這個條文開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
8217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
8221.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
會分11條是中央 12條是地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
8221.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
8223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
13條是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
8223.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
8224.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
結構上這樣之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
8224.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
8228.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
那就會開始去寫11條中央的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
8228.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
8232.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
要做什麼相關的這個工作項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
8232.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
8235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
以及他的人員代表屬性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
8235.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
8238.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
那這些人員代表是剛剛各位委員所提比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
8238.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
8243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
那裡面特別有點名是不是限職的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
8243.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
8245.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
目前寫的是營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
8246.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
8249.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
有兩位委員以上提到限職營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
8249.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
8253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
我們覺得可以照委員的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
8253.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
8256.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
但是那個委員也可以考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
8256.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
8259.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
那個可以寫在立法說明怎麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
8259.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
8263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
因為原來的寫法是保留一個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
8263.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
8266.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
讓營養師這個整個的邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
8266.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
8269.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
那中央的這一個層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
8269.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
8272.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
有沒有可能是有比較廣泛包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
8272.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
8276.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
營養的相關的學會的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
8276.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
8279.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
那他會不會是限職營養師等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
8279.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
8280.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
8280.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
8282.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
但是今天委員特別點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
8283.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
8285.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
8284.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
8286.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
就限職營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
8288.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
8291.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
立法的技術上應該也沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
8291.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
8294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
但是也可以寫在立法說明上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
8294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
8296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
給我們這樣的一個建議的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
8296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
8297.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
在臨派的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
8297.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
8299.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
臨選的時候可以這樣處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
8299.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
8302.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
那要不要寫在法條上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
8302.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
8305.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
讓這個稍微有點限縮嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
8305.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
8307.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
看要不要這樣處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
8307.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
8310.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
第二個面向的人是家長跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
8311.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
8314.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
學生我們覺得這個應該我們可以再來列進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
8314.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
8317.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
所以以上應該就是留待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
8317.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
8319.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
要不要加限職營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
8319.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
8322.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
看看提案的委員是直接在法條上寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
8322.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
8324.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
還是在立法說明這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
8324.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
8327.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
讓我們有一個方向保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
8327.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
8330.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
也是都是營養師學會的一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
8330.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
8333.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
看看哪一種會更滿足專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
8333.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
8335.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
尤其是營養的代表的來參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
8335.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
8337.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
看看委員的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
8337.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
8339.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
我覺得限職學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
8339.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
8342.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
我覺得會雖然說你提供一個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
8342.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
8343.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
可是這反而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
8343.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
8345.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
因為有時候營養學會一些專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
8345.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
8347.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
他並不是在第一線上處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
8347.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
8349.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
學校目前的一些的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
8349.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
8351.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
所以目前我們為什麼要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
8351.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
8353.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
限職學校營養師放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
8353.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
8355.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
就是希望能夠for這個 position |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
8355.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
8358.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
然後可以真的來替這個學校來做發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
8358.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
8361.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
如果把擴編到一個立法意志上面去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
8361.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
8364.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
反而搞不好又有一些的營養專家等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
8364.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
8365.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
沒在學校的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
8365.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
8368.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
這反而是失去我們當初寫這個最大的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
8368.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
8371.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
好 那我呼應到那個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
8372.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
8373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
科志人委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
8373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
8375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
限職營養師有其必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
8375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
8378.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
納入學校教師家長跟工商相關業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
8378.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
8380.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
專家學者的一個代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
8380.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
8382.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
限職營養師也有舉足輕重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
8382.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
8385.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
並且第一線實際的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
8385.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
8386.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
比較能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
8386.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
8388.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
我講一個觀點好嗎 不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
8388.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
8390.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
因為剛剛我有一個觀點可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
8390.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
8391.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
可以啊 可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
8391.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
8393.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
講清楚也讓趙薇比較踩事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
8393.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
8394.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
都說喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
8394.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
8396.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
限職營養師因為我最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
8396.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
8398.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
一些食安在邀請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
8398.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
8400.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
那麼一邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
8400.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
8403.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
他就會有公辦公營公辦民營外地團散 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
8403.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
8405.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
各種的營養師都要邀的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
8405.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
8407.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
那就叫限職學校營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
8407.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
8410.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
那這種限職學校一邀就要邀三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
8410.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
8413.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
可是原來的營養師相關的這個學會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
8413.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
8416.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
他們在統合完之後給我們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
8416.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
8419.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
那也是一種統合後的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
8419.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
8420.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
所以各有好處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
8420.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
8423.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
那你如果現在是叫學校營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
8423.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
8425.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
限職學校營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
8425.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
8427.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
往往我們常常在邀的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
8427.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
8429.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
一下邀三種公餐型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
8429.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
8430.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
他對他自己的很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
8430.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
8431.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
他對另外兩種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
8431.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
8433.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
有時候會跟我們講他沒把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
8433.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
8436.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
那這樣的時候定一個中央政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
8436.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
8438.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
這就是為什麼當時也有一些聲音說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
8438.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
8440.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
應該是整個營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
8440.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
8442.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
他們也是問過各種公餐型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
8442.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
8444.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
跟各種層級的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
8444.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
8446.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
各類型營養師都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
8446.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
8448.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
他問過之後來我們就會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
8448.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
8449.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
他講的是分析完的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
8449.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
8451.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
而不是某個型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
8451.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
8453.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
或是某個教育階段的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
8453.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
8454.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
他有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
8455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
8456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
我們也很為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
8456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
8457.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
所以當時也有考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
8458.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
8459.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
好陳秋芭委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
8460.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
8461.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
8461.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
8463.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
因為原本我跟柯志恩委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
8463.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
8465.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
表達的意見是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
8465.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
8467.92 |
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就是限職學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
8467.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
8468.92 |
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因為這是現場的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
8468.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
8471.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
但是剛才的署長所回答就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
8471.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
8475.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
是會採納的是中等過後的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
8475.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
8476.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
8476.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
8477.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
就是不只是學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
8477.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
8480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
可能也是餐飲的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
8480.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
8481.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
還是說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
8481.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
8482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
因為他公餐型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
8482.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
8483.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
8483.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
8484.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
有餐廳以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
8484.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
8485.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
甚至還有這個餐廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
8485.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
8486.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
所以營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
8486.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
8488.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
如果我們只是限職學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
8488.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
8489.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
除非這個額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
8489.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
8490.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
一來就要來四個會長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
8490.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
8492.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
因為他們常常表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
8492.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
8493.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
會很熟他們的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
8493.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
8495.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
但是別的型態的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
8495.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
8496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
他們都很客氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
8496.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
8497.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
不一定那麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
8497.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
8498.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
覺得他有代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
8498.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
8499.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
另外這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
8499.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
8500.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
我懂意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
8500.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
8501.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
我懂署長您的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
8501.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
8503.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
但是我們要怎麼能夠確保說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
8503.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
8505.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
學校的限職的意見是有納入的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
8505.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
8507.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
這個部分我們如何去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
8507.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
8508.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
對呀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
8508.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
8509.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
因為你如果說是營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
8509.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
8511.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
你剛剛所講營養公會是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
8511.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
8512.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
然後找出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
8512.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
8513.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
你剛才找的是個醫院的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
8513.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
8514.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
他也是營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
8514.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
8515.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
剛剛是醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
8515.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
8516.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
8516.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
8518.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
我們只要百分之百確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
8518.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
8520.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
他是在第一現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
8520.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
8522.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
學校的現場是可以被邀請來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
8522.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
8523.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
我們只要達到這個目標就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
8523.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
8524.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
不管你要怎麼樣使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
8524.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
8525.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
8525.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
8526.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
8526.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
8527.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
剛剛委員這個提醒就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
8527.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
8529.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
有一種以前委員給我們指導的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
8529.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
8530.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
立法技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
8530.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
8532.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
就在比較複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
8532.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
8535.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
或是有一點在附帶的決議性指控 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
8535.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
8536.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
我們有看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
8536.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
8537.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
可以寫在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
8537.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
8539.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
我們可以寫得比較完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
8539.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
8541.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
譬如說我剛剛講的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
8541.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
8542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我也完全清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
8542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
8544.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
但是委員的意思我更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
8544.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
8547.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
來的還是一定要對現職的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
8547.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
8549.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
現場的情形要很掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
8549.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
8551.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
不可以只是場域又不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
8551.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
8553.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
或是他不是現職人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
8553.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
8555.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
這個我們寫在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
8555.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
8557.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
是能夠充分表達委員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
8557.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
8559.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
但是現在如果一寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
8559.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
8561.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
現職學校營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
8561.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
8562.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
可能我們在找的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
8562.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
8565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
常常會變成要嘛找很多位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
8565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
8567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
才能夠滿足那個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
8567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
8570.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
但是寫在文法不好說明這個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
8570.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
8572.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
所以我們會寫在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
8572.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
8574.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
然後來達到委員的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
8574.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
8577.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
那我想說主席我翻一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
8577.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
8581.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
那個如果說有時候我們邀請來的名額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
8581.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
8584.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
他是有限制的沒有辦法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
8584.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
8587.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
每一種的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
8590.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
8593.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
狀況的營養師都邀請到的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
8593.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
8595.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
我只希望說能夠確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
8595.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
8600.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
學校午餐現場的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
8600.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
8602.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
是有被表達到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
8604 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
8606 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
好這樣子我提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
8606 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
8608 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
8608.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
8610.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
兩邊都有自己的一個欠解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
8610.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
8612.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
都非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
8612.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
8614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
那我們是不是再討論看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
8614.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
8616.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
那是不是就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
8616.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
8618.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
很簡單喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
8619.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
8621.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
你覺得有共識好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
8621.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
8623.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
那你提案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
8626.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
8628.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
對啊所以說你說限制學校營養代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
8628.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
8631.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
我覺得這個你真的覺得有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
8631.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
8634.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
我覺得寫到法條上應該是非常OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
8635.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
8637.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
限制學校營養是代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
8637.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
8639.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
8639.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
8641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
或者是這麼說因為第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
8641.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
8643.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
他主要是從中央的一個位階來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
8643.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
8645.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
所以他比較是政策導向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
8645.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
8649.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
那當然怎麼樣到時候這個營養的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
8649.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
8651.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
事實上也可以去延攬這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
8651.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
8653.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
喔有的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
8653.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
8655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
這是很怕學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
8655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
8657.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
很怕學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
8657.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
8659.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
因為你從地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
8659.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
8661.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
限制的實際在推動的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
8661.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
8663.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
8663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
8665.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
我就是很害怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
8665.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
8667.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
我就是很害怕到時候找到那些學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
8667.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
8669.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
所以我們為什麼強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
8669.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
8671.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
要限制學校這個意志是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
8671.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
8673.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
百分百說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
8673.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
8675.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
所以你如何讓這個法條上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
8675.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
8677.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
讓我們可以保證限制學校的營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
8677.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
8679.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
是能夠來發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
8679.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8681.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
我們要求就只有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8681.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8683.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
那至於你要把它放到什麼樣的層面上都可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8685.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
8687.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8686.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8688.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
蔡總委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8691.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8693.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
我贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8693.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8695.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
柯志恩委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8695.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8697.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
的一個提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8697.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8699.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
因為限制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8699.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
8701.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
限制的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8701.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
8703.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
他是真正的第一個聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8703.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
8707.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
現場的最基本基礎的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8707.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8711.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
來表達學校的一些狀況跟需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8711.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8713.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
所以在這裡我還是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8713.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8715.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
柯志恩委員的一個開幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8715.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8717.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
8717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
8719.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
好 部長還有署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
8720.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
8722.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
8723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
8725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
就是剛剛委員也覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
8725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
8727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
這其實是大家有共識啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
8727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
8729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
就是是限制的學校營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
8729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
8731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
不是限制的醫院營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
8731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
8733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
而且是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
8733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
8735.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
不要是學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8735.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
8737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
希望是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8737.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
8739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
那因為這一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8739.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
8741.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
其實滿完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8741.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
8743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
可是以法條來講要寫成這麼細緻不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8743.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
8745.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
我們寫在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8745.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
8747.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
完全會把委員的意思到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8747.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
8749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
會執行到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8749.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
8751.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
我只希望說能夠確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8751.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
8753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
就是現場的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8753.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
8757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
就學校午餐現場的這樣實況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8757.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
8760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
他們能夠去表達到他們的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
8762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
就是你確保這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
那其他的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8763.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
如果你做這個名額的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8765.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8767.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
或者說有什麼其他的方式的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8767.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8769.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
我其實沒有很大的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8769.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
但是必須是確定有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8771.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8773.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
收集到學校的聲音的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8778.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8780.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
好,那是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
請國家署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
我們就依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8784.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8786.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
剛剛委員就說我們會寫一個立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8786.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8788.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
再給委員們看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8788.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8790.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
依法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8790.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8792.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
那我們先等你的依法說明寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8792.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8794.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8794.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8796.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
那我就先往下進行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8796.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8798.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
待會再回來這裡喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8800.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8802.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
你現在寫出來嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8803.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8805.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8804.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8806.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
委員限職學校營養師的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8806.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8808.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
如果條文沒有特別改 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8808.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8810.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
但是立法說明要完成委員這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8810.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
一個遴選的對象的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8812.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8814.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
我們把它寫一下,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8816.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8818.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
在會議結束前我寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8819.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8821.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
好,那我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8821.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8823.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
處理下一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8826.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8828.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
第12條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8828.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8830.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
民眾黨黨團提案第6條第 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8830.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8832.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
37個提案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8832.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8834.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
以及委員羅庭瑋等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8834.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8836.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
委員羅庭瑋柯志恩等人所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8836.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8838.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
修正動議,請委員舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8839.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
第11條跟第12條就是相對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8841.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
第10條是中央嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8845.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
第12條嘛就是有關於地方嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8845.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8847.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
所以我們就是加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8847.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8849.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
地方限職學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8849.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8851.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
好不好,這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8851.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
所以我們在第12條裡面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8855.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
我們還是強調需要限職的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8855.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8857.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
所以我們就加入地方限職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8857.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8861.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
那你如果要用立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8861.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
或是如何的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8865.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
反正我們就闡述我們自己非常重要的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8865.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8867.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
好,秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8868.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8870.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
謝謝主席,12條對應到我自己的辦事第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8870.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8872.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
那一樣我自己有提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8872.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8874.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
就是希望加學校的武昌輔導會議名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8874.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8878.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
是不是改為學校飲食及教育推動會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8878.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8880.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
比較能夠涵蓋這個會議討論的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8880.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8882.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
加上這個針對會議成員對象呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8882.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8888.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
能夠再增加民間相關機構團體及現任學生代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8888.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8890.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
合計不少於成員的1% |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8890.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8892.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
那推動飲食、教育除了食材認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8892.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8894.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
也要結合在地食材認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8894.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8896.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
那推動飲食、教育除了食材認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8896.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
也要結合在地食材運用及在地飲食文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8900.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
如果有民間相關的機構團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8900.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8902.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
尤其是與在地人也比較深的團體加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8902.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8904.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
本席覺得對學校飲食推動也是會有注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8904.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8906.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
另外跟剛才的第11條一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8906.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8908.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
我希望說能夠增加限制學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8908.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8910.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
讓學校辦理相關飲食的事項的現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8910.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
現場的現況可以及時反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8914.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
所以這個部分請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8914.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8916.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
因為我想大家對學校營養師的提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8916.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8918.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
有所提及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8918.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8920.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
那我現在就先講到這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8920.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8922.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
其實反應喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8922.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8924.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
所以這個部分請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8924.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8926.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
因為我想大家對剛才的那一條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8926.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8928.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
討論就是說可以在立法說明裡面 |
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8928.01 |
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8930.01 |
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你們要怎麼樣在技術上克服 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8930.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8932.01 |
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我是都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8932.01 |
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8934.01 |
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只是希望確保在學校現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8934.01 |
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8936.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
現況的聲音是可以表達的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8936.01 |
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8938.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8936.96 |
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8938.96 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8938.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8940.13 |
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國際委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8940.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8942.54 |
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好第12條同樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8942.54 |
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8944.54 |
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就是我的第7條的一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8944.54 |
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8946.54 |
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是也要納入這個學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8946.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8948.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
家長代表及學生代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8948.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8950.54 |
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之人數不得少於三分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8950.54 |
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8952.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
任意性別之人數不得少於三分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8952.54 |
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8954.54 |
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就是有這一條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8954.54 |
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8956.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
這個部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8956.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8958.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8960.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8962.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
教育部請回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8966.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8968.49 |
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剛剛委員就12條有3個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8968.49 |
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8970.49 |
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第一個意見是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8970.49 |
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8972.49 |
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科委員希望就剛剛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8972.49 |
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8974.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
限職學校營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8974.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8976.49 |
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還再清楚一點加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8976.49 |
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8978.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
地方的是該地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8978.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8980.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
類似這樣這個我們在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8980.49 |
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8982.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
那至於另外兩個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8982.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8984.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
一個是陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8984.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8986.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8987.91 |
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8989.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
學生家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8989.91 |
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8991.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
這其實國委員有提 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8991.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8993.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
這個我們比照上一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8993.91 |
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8995.91 |
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家長跟學生的地方也很在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8995.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8997.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
我想應該不成問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8997.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8999.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
那至於比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8999.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
9001.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
原來的比例講的是性別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
9003.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
9005.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
那現在就要就單一的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
9005.55 |
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9007.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
屬性喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
9007.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
9009.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
做一個一定比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
9009.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
9011.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
這個因為事前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
9011.55 |
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9013.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
跟地方在這個觀念上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
9013.55 |
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9015.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
沒有特別討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
9015.55 |
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9017.55 |
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那不是很清楚在地方上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
9017.55 |
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9019.55 |
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那目前已經是更多的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
9019.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
9021.55 |
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是由地方來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
9021.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
9023.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
9023.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
9025.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
來處理可能他自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
9025.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
9027.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
不管責任感或是想要承擔的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
9027.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
9029.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
會更多那這個是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
9029.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
9031.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
從以後我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
9031.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
9033.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
相關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
9033.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
9035.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
不管是行政的說明要求上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
9035.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
9037.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
大家一起來互動共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
9037.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
9039.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
那目前因為之前沒有特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
9039.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
9041.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
和他們談過這個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
9041.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
9043.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
會不會這個時候地方政府會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
9043.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
9045.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
沒有討論過怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
9045.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
9047.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
會有不周延的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
9047.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
9049.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
讓他們怕怕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
9049.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
9051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
這一點上懇請兩位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
9051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
9053.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
就納入的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
9053.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
9055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
可以但比例的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
9055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
9057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
是不是給我們再談心一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
9057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
9059.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
好可以謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
9059.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
9061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
那至於最後第三題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
9061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
9063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
是有關民間的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
9063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
9065.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
那這裡秀寶委員剛才有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
9065.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
9067.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
民間的相關機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
9067.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
9069.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
那因為現行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
9069.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
9071.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
9071.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
9073.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
有提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
9073.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
9075.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
教育衛政農政社政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
9075.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
9077.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
單位代表家長團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
9077.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
9079.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
9079.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
9081.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
那因為委員成員的屬性很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
9081.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
9083.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
那因為民間代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
9083.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
9085.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
有時候地方政府在邀約民間代表的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
9085.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
9087.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
民間代表的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
9087.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
9089.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
相關性質很多的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
9089.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
9091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
有時候地方政府怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
9091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
9093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
一是怪一漏萬 二是邀了誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
9093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
9095.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
誰沒邀 好像會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
9095.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
9097.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
額外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
9097.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
9099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
不一定是專業的這樣考慮的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
9099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
9101.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
就是他會有額外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
9101.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
9103.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
9103.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
9105.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
那我們目前寫的是典型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
9105.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
9107.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
一定要參加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
9107.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
9109.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
這裡是寫應要參加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
9109.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
9111.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
因此如果他要再加邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
9111.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
9113.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
是不是當地地方政府在運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
9113.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
9115.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
我舉個例子可能當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
9115.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
9117.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
有一些民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
9117.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
9119.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
他是長年來對他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
9119.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
9121.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
農教育一直有關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
9121.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
9123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
他要邀他進來讓他的這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
9123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
9125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
中推行農教育的時候有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
9125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
9127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
一起來幫忙的力量那我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
9127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
9129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
那如果寫成應的話別的縣市他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
9129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
9131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
在這個主要的人員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
9131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
9133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
剛剛好了又要再加民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
9133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
9135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
怕會也比較原來沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
9135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
9137.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
談那是不是以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
9137.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
9139.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
就家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
9139.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
9141.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
跟學生以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
9141.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
9143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
地方縣執這個把寫在立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
9143.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
9145.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
說明這兩大點我們來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
9145.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
9147.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
9147.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
9149.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
那因為剛剛葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
9149.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
9151.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
跟羅志祥委員有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
9151.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
9153.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
也是擔心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
9153.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
9155.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
怪異漏腕請我要特別再強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
9155.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
9157.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
納入所有的一些各方代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
9157.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
9159.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
都希望說能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
9159.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
9161.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
不管是透過寫入法案或是立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
9161.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
9163.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
說明把他說清楚講明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
9163.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
9165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
9165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
9167.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
剛剛有委員跟我十眼色 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
9167.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
9169.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
跟上一條差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
9169.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
9171.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
所以是不是就把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
9171.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
9173.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
持續也是先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
9173.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
9175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
那你們在立法說明的部分寫清楚講明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
9175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
9177.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
來說服我們所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
9177.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
9179.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
我們再來討論這兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
9179.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
9181.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
這兩條先暫時保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
9181.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
9183.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
那我們繼續往下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
9183.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
9185.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
也謝謝羅志祥委員跟葉元之委員的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
9185.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
9187.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
9187.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
9189.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
9189.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
9191.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
發便當因為不好意思因為12點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
9191.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
9193.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
9193.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
9195.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
在這邊繼續審查我們的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
9195.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
9197.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
法案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
9197.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
9199.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
所以可能旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
9199.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
9201.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
的同仁可以先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
9201.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
9203.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
用一下便當不要客氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
9203.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
9205.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
9205.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
9207.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
志祥委員也可以先用便當沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
9207.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
9209.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
大家邊用邊討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
9209.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
9211.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
大家今天的會議非常的順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
9211.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
9213.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
也非常的融洽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
9215.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
9217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
14條好玩就差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
9217.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
9219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
我們照著柯志恩委員的節奏 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
9219.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
9221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
那他對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
9221.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
9223.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
營養午餐法非常的著墨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
9225.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
9227.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
好來第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
9227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
9229.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
9229.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
9231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
等34個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
9231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
9233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
以及委員陳秀寶、詹爾琳等委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
9233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
9235.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
羅廷瑋、柯志祥等人所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
9236.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
9238.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
9247.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
9249.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
陳秀寶委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
9249.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
9251.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
9251.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
9253.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
這就是第13條對應到我自己的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
9253.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
9255.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
是在第8條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
9255.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
9257.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
那這一條呢本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
9257.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
9259.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
一樣有納入現任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
9259.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
9261.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
家長及現任學生代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
9261.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
9263.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
9263.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
9265.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
在學校端的會議本席認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
9265.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
9267.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
一樣是需要參考學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
9267.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
9269.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
意見因為使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
9269.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
9271.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
這個飲食的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
9271.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
9273.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
9273.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
9275.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
所以學生的意見我覺得說對整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
9275.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
9277.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
飲食的內容對飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
9277.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
9279.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
飲食的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
9279.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
9281.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
對於減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
9281.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
9283.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
這個學生對於食物的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
9283.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
9285.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
這個不滿意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
9285.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
9287.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
這樣子的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
9287.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
9289.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
應該是可以降低所以我覺得納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
9289.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
9291.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
學生的意見來參考是非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
9291.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
9293.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
9293.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
9295.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
所以說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
9295.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
9297.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
這個現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
9297.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
9299.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
我想學生在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
9299.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
9301.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
吃的好不好吃的對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
9301.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
9303.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
不只是家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
9303.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
9305.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
非常的關心他就怕學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
9305.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
9307.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
如果說飲食的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
9307.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
9309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
餐飲的內容提供沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
9309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
9311.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
讓學生是可以接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
9311.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
9313.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
他們會覺得說怕小孩吃不飽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
9313.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
9315.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
吃得不夠健康但在學校端 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
9315.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
9317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
他們也很擔心學生不吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
9317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
9319.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
因為這個廚餘的產生的量會比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
9319.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
9321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
大所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
9321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
9323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
納入這個家長或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
9323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
9325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
學生代表的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
9325.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
9327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
蠻重要的以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
9329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
9331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
好蔡製作委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
9336.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
9338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
針對陳秀寶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
9338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
9340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
委員剛剛所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
9340.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
9342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
就是要有學生代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
9342.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
9344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
9344.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
9346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
有學生代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
9346.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
9348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
不但要有學生代表而也限量的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
9348.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
9350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
人數也不得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
9350.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
9352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
少於成員的總數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
9352.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
9354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
四分之一然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
9354.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
9356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
學生都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
9356.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
9358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
納入進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
9358.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
9360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
以上我要補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
9360.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
9362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
我的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
9362.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
9364.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
好柯志銳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
9364.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
9366.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
好那游委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
9366.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
9368.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
有提出同意教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
9368.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
9370.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
那請教育部回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
9370.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
9372.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
如果沒有我們就會往下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
9374.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
9376.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
好感謝各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
9376.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
9378.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
這一條因為跟地方政府還有學校的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
9378.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
9380.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
專業夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
9380.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
9382.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
有商量過這樣執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
9382.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
9384.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
一直以來都蠻順利剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
9384.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
9386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
家學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
9386.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
9388.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
歷來學生的這個聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
9388.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
9390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
其實一直都學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
9390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
9392.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
很在意包含滿意度調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
9392.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
9394.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
或是把導師反應等等都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
9394.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
9396.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
那現在這應該是一個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
9396.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
9398.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
那他比較是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
9398.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
9400.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
需要去有一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
9400.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
9402.77 |
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那學生的這個不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
9402.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
9404.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
時間或是對這個議題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
9404.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
9406.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
著墨可能也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
9406.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
9408.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
透過家長整體的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
9408.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
9410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
應該也會滿周延所以歷來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
9410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
9412.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
學校大概大體上是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
9412.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
9414.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
這樣的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
9414.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
9416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
那是會懇請委員也來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
9416.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
9418.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
做這樣的一個整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
9418.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
9420.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
給我們同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
9420.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
9422.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
那真正有一種像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
9422.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
9424.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
國教法裡面有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
9424.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
9426.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
學生意見的時候國教法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
9426.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
9428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
那他是針對有比較小的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
9428.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
9430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
像國小跟國中不是高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
9430.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
9432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
國教法裡面有一種情形是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
9432.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
9434.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
9435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
9437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
他是如果在特定的議題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
9439.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
9441.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
他是可以邀他練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
9441.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
9443.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
當時近年我們本委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
9443.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
9445.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
審議很在意學生意見時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
9445.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
9447.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
監眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
9447.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
9449.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
學校如果你要出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
9449.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
9451.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
變成在出席人員相關的壓力上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
9451.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
9453.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
學生又有課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
9453.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
9455.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
那麼有些特定的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
9455.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
9457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
要學生反應時有做這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
9457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
9459.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
在國教法第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
9459.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
9461.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
可以邀請他們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
9461.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
9463.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
9463.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
9465.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
所以兼顧學生的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
9465.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
9467.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
剛才有報告有兩種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
9467.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
9469.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
有一種是現況其實在滿意度調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
9469.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
9471.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
家長反應跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
9471.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
9473.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
導師反應已經處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
9473.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
9475.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
第二種是仿照國教法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
9475.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
9477.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
可以應邀練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
9477.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
9479.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
應邀請他來練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
9479.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
9481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
以上是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
9481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
9483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
讓原來條文也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
9483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
9485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
得到縣市跟基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
9485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
9487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
討論同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
9487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
9489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
那有一些是不是我們寫在立法說明那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
9489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
9491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
如果要特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
9491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
9493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
就議題來邀請學生時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
9493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
9495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
可做應邀練習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
9495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
9497.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
仿照國教法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
9498.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
9502.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
好 那我們是不是就叫教育部的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
9503.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
9505.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
可以我可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
9505.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
9507.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
9507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
9509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
來第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
9537.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
9541.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
專一性別成員人數不得少於成員總數1% |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
9541.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
9545.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
學校午餐公益會或相關會議委員名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
9545.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
9547.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
應公開於網際網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
9547.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
9549.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
每學習至少應開會兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
9551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
9553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
我們依教育部建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
9553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
9555.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
9555.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
9557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
下一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
9558.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
9560.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
第14條台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
9560.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
9562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
黨團提案等9條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
9562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
9564.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
等40個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
9564.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
9566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
以及委員羅庭瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
9566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
9568.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
委員羅庭瑋柯志恩等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
9568.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
9570.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
委員柯志恩等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
9570.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
9572.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
所提個別的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
9574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
9576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
9581.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
9583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
好 我們柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
9583.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
9585.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
跟陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
9585.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
9587.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
我想跟你們提個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
9587.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
9589.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
我們是不是休息五分鐘上個廁所一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
9591.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
9593.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
休息五分鐘 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
9602.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
9603.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
9604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
9605.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
9609.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
9610.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
我們先看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
9615 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
9616 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
9629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
9630.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
趕快去問一下你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
9630.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
9631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
9631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
9632.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
9632.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
9633.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
結帳了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
9635.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
9637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
這個提問是那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
9637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
9639.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
因為有些配合時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
9639.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
9640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
然後就討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
9640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
9641.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
比如說他們是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
9641.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
9642.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
9642.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
9643.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
沒有提前到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
9646.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
9647.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
最後一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
9649.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
9651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
這一個是機關內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
9651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
9653.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
機關內家人家單位的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
9667.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
9669.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
反正是學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
9669.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
9671.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
所以是機關內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
9671.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
9673.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
地方機關內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
9673.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
9675.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
這個就是學校內的社會內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
9675.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
9677.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
這個就差很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
9677.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
9678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
比較不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
9678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
9679.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
有看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
9679.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
9681.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
接觸的人很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
9681.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
9683.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
你上次幾個沒有什麼機會通到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
9683.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
9685.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
就是我們上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
9685.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
9687.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
我們上次看的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
9687.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
9689.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
也沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
9689.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
9691.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
所以這次反而特別看多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
9691.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
9693.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
雖然我看到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
9693.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
9695.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
這個是累的鑰匙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
9695.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
9696.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
9696.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
9697.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
其實還蠻鐵人俗成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
9697.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
9698.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
因為我們先去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
9698.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
9699.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
逛完城 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
9699.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
9700.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
然後再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
9700.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
9701.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
9701.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9702.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
我本來是有逛完城的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9702.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9703.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
中央市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9703.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9704.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9704.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9705.89 |
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我就是看台階 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9705.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9706.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
都有黨照部裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9706.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9708.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
青色或是石立面青少子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9708.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9710.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
他們已經有地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9710.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9711.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
還不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9711.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9712.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
青年少年委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9712.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9714.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
他吃的挺好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9714.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9715.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
他吃的挺好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9715.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9716.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
他挑過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9716.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
那個代表現在發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9719.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
就不會太離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9719.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9721.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
但是學校曾經的就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9721.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9722.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9722.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9723.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
那長榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9723.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9724.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
是長榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9724.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9725.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
就像那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9725.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9728.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
他們要聽一屆的警告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9728.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9729.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9729.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9730.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9730.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9731.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
也差不多15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9731.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9732.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
但這問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9732.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9734.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
我們起飛的當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9734.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9736.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
在當地在打雷在下雨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9736.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9737.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
我們還在機場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9737.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9739.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9749.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9750.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
我們還在機場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9750.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9751.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9751.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9752.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9752.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9753.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9753.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9754.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9754.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9755.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9755.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9756.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9756.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9757.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9757.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9758.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9758.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9759.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9759.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9760.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9760.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9761.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9761.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9762.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9762.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9763.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9763.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9764.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9764.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9765.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9765.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9766.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9766.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9767.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9767.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9768.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9768.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9769.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9769.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9770.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9770.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9771.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9771.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9772.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9772.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9773.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9773.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9774.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
9774.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
9775.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
9775.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
9776.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9776.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
9777.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9777.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9751.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9752.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9752.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9753.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9754.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9754.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9755.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9756.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9756.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9757.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9757.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9758.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9758.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9759.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9759.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9760.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9760.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9761.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9762.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9762.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
9764.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9764.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9766.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9766.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9767.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9768.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9768.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9769.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9770.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9770.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
9771.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9772.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9772.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
9773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9773.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9774.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9774.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9775.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9776.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9776.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9777.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9778.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9778.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9780.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
等了兩個多小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9753.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9754.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
我給你外星人吃飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9754.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9755.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
你們不吃飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9755.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9756.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9757.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
先吃吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9757.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9758.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9758.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9759.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
好累 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9761.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9762.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
我自己來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9768.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9769.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
我覺得可以投 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9769.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
9770.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
你不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9774.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9776.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
我以為你說是指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9776.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9777.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
我以為說是指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9777.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9778.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
你沒有搞那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9778.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9779.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9779.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9780.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
你們沒有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9780.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9781.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
我們是考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9781.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9782.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
做這個陸續是指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9782.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9783.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
沒有 這個是指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9783.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9784.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
我們還有一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
9784.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9785.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
我們還有一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
9785.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9786.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
那哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
9786.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9787.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
這不是指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9787.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
9788.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
這你們還有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9788.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
9789.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
我還有一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9789.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9790.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
我還有一份插圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
9790.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9791.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
插圖對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
9792.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9793.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
沒有 我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9793.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9794.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
還有太多東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
9794.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9795.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
有的時候太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9795.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9796.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
太細的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9796.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9797.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
不是 你太細的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9797.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9799.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
你還能再自行去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9799.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9801.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
我們讓它可以過關一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9801.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
我們說都太細了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9803.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
還真是 |
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9803.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9804.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
是一模一樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9806.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9807.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
對 |
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9807.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9808.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9808.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9809.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9809.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9810.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9810.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9811.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
不管是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9811.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9812.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
事實上這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9812.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9813.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
你不能放在法規裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9813.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9814.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
因為這個真的太細 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9814.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9815.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
所以如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9815.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9816.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
一個商位大法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9816.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9817.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9817.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9818.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
我剛剛也有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9818.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9819.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
對 |
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9819.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9820.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9820.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9821.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
有些要在行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9821.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9822.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9822.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9823.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9824.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
你這個商位大法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9824.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9825.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
實際上是細 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9825.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
人家講法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
之前到時候這個都不能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9828.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
這只是最大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9828.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
但是這個不是最大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9830.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
這是大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9830.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9831.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9831.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9832.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
這大問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9832.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
我懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9834.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
你們再調一台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9834.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
但是如果可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
我覺得還是要彼此合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9846.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
好 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9848.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9848.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9850.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
大家都差不多回到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9851.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
好 我們第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9852.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9853.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9853.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9854.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
剛剛有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9854.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9855.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
陳秀馬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9855.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9856.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
真的飯都吃不下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9859.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9859.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9860.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9861.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9861.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
我就提出再修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9863.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
我想這是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9863.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9864.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
再修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9864.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9865.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9865.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9866.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
大家可以討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9866.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9869.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
有關營養師人力的配置上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9869.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9870.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
那我所提出來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9870.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9871.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
在第一項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9871.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9873.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
在第一款第一項的部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9873.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9874.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9874.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9876.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
應設置專責單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9876.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9878.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
並至少制營養師二人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9878.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9881.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
統籌規劃全國學校營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9881.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9882.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
供應管理與飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9882.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9884.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
教育相關的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9884.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9885.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
這是提出的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9885.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9886.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
第二個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9886.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9887.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
地方主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9887.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9889.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
應設置專責單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9889.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
那後面其實是跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9892.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
都是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9892.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9895.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
然後並至少設置營養師二人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9895.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
離島縣市主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9900.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
應至少制營養師一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9900.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9902.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
那第三款是沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9902.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9904.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
然後第四款的部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9904.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9905.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
第一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9905.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9907.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
學校有下列情形之一者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9907.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9910.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
應該至少制營養師一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9910.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
那我們看第一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9912.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
自辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9912.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9914.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
學生人數達550人以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9914.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9916.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
我知道這要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9916.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9917.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
目前算起來應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9917.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
199個人吧差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
那第二就是自辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9924.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
且供應本地級他校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9924.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9926.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
那第三就是委辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9926.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9928.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
委外辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9928.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9930.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
學生人數達1100人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9930.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9934.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
那第四幕就是外訂和統餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9934.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
學生人數合計達3300人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9937.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9938.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
應配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9938.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9941.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
這個應配置或跨校合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9941.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9942.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
然後第五幕就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9942.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9944.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
然後第五幕就是前款第一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9944.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9946.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
或第二幕學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9946.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9948.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
學生人數達1500人以上者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9948.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9950.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
應至少制營養師二人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9950.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9952.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
那第六幕就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9952.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9954.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
第四款第三幕之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9954.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
超過前述學生人數規模者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9960.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
依依工餐人數、工餐校數、工餐型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9960.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9963.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
及業務量足及增至營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9963.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
其增至基準由中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9970.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
開會商相關主管機關來訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9970.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9971.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
是非常的繁瑣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9971.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9973.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
但我覺得就是在大家最關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9973.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9975.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
在整部營養午餐推動當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9975.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9977.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
這整個人力配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9977.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9980.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
如果人力配置沒有辦法用專輒或是足夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9980.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9983.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
其實對於我們整個營養午餐的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9983.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9984.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
是有很大的問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9984.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9985.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
所以以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9989.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9990.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
好,秀包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9991.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9992.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9992.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9995.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
在這個地方的14條呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9995.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9998.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
對於我自己的版本是第11條 |
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9998.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
10001.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
那我的11條的條文內容是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
10001.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
10006.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
各主管機關應指定專責單位並制營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
10006.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
10009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
樂觀能辦理學校飲食業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
10009.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
10014.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
學校以10公尺人數為500人以下者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
10014.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
10018.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
應由地方主管機關考量學校校數、班級數及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
10018.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
10022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
分佈距離定員而數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
10023.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
10026.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
跨校聯合制營養師至少一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
10026.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
10030.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
超過500人者每滿500人制營養師一人為原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
10030.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
10038.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
為滿500人,於是為達250人者的事業務需求增至一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
10038.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
10042.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
那我們在學校衛生法第23條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
10042.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
10044.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
第一項、第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
10044.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
10047.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
裡頭的條文規定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
10047.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
10049.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
10049.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
10054.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
學校以10公尺人數40班以上者的至少制營養師一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
10054.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
10056.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
但如果我們以班來算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
10056.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
10058.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
其實現在對這個人數很難進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
10058.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
10060.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
因為大的學校、小的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
10060.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
10062.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
所以一般的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
10062.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
10065.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
就用班來算的話是比較不進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
10065.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
10069.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
所以說現在都會希望用人數為單位來計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
10069.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
10071.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
那我自己本身我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
10071.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
10073.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
條文裡面是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
10073.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
10077.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
營養師的比例是500學生比1有一個營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
10077.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
10079.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
那教育部是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
10079.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
10082.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
有來說明說是說現在目前日本的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
10082.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
10085.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
是550個學生比1個營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
10085.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
10087.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
那這個比例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
10087.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
10089.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
我也可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
10089.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
10091.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
但是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
10091.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
10093.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
我們如何協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
10093.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
10095.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
目前我們如何協助營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
10095.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
10098.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
執行他們的業務相關的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
10098.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
10101.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
我希望教育部這邊也要非常的清晰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
10101.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
10105.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
因為這個有關我們孩子飲食的衛生及安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
10105.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
10107.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
10107.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
10110.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
我希望說教育部對於我們相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
10110.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
10112.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
執行業務的相關配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
10112.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
10114.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
要必須明確 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
10116.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
10118.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
好 吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
10119.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
10121.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
10121.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
10123.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
第14條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
10123.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
10126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
我這邊對應的是第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
10126.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
10129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
那我的版本是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
10129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
10131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
明定中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
10131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
10136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
要設置專責單位跟最低營養師人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
10136.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
10139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
然後來做一個區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
10139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
10141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
就是自辦 委外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
10141.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
10145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
或者外訂中央廚房的一個配置門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
10145.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
10147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
那規範大型的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
10147.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
10153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
要增至偏遠與非山非市跨校服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
10153.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
10156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
營養師的職長 中央的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
10156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
10160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
以及偏鄉離島交通住宿的加級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
10160.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
10164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
那跟教育部版的這個若干人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
10164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
10166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
然後來相較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
10166.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
10168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
或者是多數工餐型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
10168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
10172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
是用得志來講應該是更具保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
10172.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
10175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
那如果沒有營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
10175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
10178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
那這部法要求的菜單 食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
10178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
10181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
特殊需求照顧 飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
10181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
10183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
跟平台的督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
10183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
10186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
會很容易落到現在我們看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
10186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
10189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
就是教師或行政人員的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
10189.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
10193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
所以我是想說教育部版這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
10193.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
10196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
他看到的就是自辦午餐以外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
10196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
10200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
委外 外訂或中央廚房的共餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
10200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
10203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
只寫說得志營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
10203.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
10205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
那工商型態不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
10205.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
10208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
專業責任的話也不會消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
10208.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
10211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
那外訂的餐盒呢 更需要學校端 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
10211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
10215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
要有人審查菜單 契約跟食安的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
10215.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
10218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
所以我在這邊建議中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
10218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
10221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
地方主管機關設置專責單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
10221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
10223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
並配置營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
10223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
10226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
那建議委外1100人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
10226.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
10230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
外訂合計3300人的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
10230.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
10233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
達到這個門檻就配置或合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
10233.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
10236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
那我的版本也對自辦學校主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
10236.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
10241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
550人一名 1100人或40班以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
10241.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
10243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
得增設人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
10243.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
10247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
那對原住民族地區偏遠離島或飛山飛市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
10247.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
10250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
那就要依他的距離 校數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
10250.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
10253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
跟班級數增設或合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
10253.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
10256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
比起那個跨校數的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
10256.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
10258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
就是不要超過四校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
10258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
10261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
所以我這邊特別就是要請教育部說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
10261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
10266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
那目前的方案會需要增加多少營養師的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
10266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
10269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
預估的經費規模會是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
10269.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
10271.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
10271.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
10274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
那學校有下列情形之一者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
10274.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
10278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
應至少就是設置營養師一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
10278.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
10281.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
那自辦午餐學生人數要550人以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
10281.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
10285.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
自辦午餐且供應本校及他校學生午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
10285.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
10287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
那還有委外辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
10287.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
10289.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
學生人數達1100人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
10289.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
10292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
或者是前款第一幕或第二幕學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
10292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
10295.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
學生人數達1100或1500人以上者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
10295.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
10298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
應至少設置營養師兩人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
10298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
10301.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
那1500的話是營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
10301.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
10303.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
他們也有來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
10303.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
10306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
我是營養師全聯會他們是希望1500啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
10306.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
10309.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
那他們是自己預估會增加300人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
10309.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
10311.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
經費會多3億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
10311.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
10312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
10312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
10316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
我是希望說先聽一下教育部這邊做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
10316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
10317.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
10318.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
10320.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
好 國務卿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
10320.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
10324.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
好 那這個部分我對應到的是第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
10324.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
10329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
那這個部分我特別有講到就是學校班級數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
10329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
10330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
如果是20班以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
10330.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
10333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
應至少是營養師一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
10333.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
10337.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
那60班以上者應至少是營養師兩人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
10337.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
10340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
那如果班級數未達20班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
10340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
10343.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
如有設置就是廚房之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
10343.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
10346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
也應該至少是營養師一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
10346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
10348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
那班級數未達20班之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
10348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
10351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
應跨校聯合聘任營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
10351.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
10356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
那其設置的標準由中央主管機關考量學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
校數班級數及分部的距離定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
那我想這個部分還是要針對目前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10369.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
也擔心這個營養師的全國分配的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10369.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10372.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
極度的比較不平衡的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10372.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10374.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
那希望能夠這個降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10374.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10377.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
那希望每間學校至少都有一些專業的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10377.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10379.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
能夠來把關這個食安的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10379.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10381.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
那推動我們的飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10381.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10384.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
那剛剛其實吳立華委員有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10384.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10385.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
我也想要聽聽看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10385.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
如果說我們把這樣子的設置營養師的一個條件門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
那把它設定之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
那我們大概會增加多少的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
10395.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10399.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
那預計會多多少的這個營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10399.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10401.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
也想請教育部這邊來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10401.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10402.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10402.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10404.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
好 請驗證委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
10408.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
10411.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
因為那個我們現在學校營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
10411.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
10413.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
全國各縣市通通都免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
10414.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
10416.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
所以其實家長現在對於營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
10416.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
10418.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
到底吃的營不營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
10418.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
10420.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
健不健康 安不安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
10420.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
10422.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
更加的重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
10422.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
10425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
然後這一次發生這個問題油的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
10425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
10428.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
就是很多問題油的食品都已經流向學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
10428.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
10430.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
其實家長也都非常的擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
10430.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
10432.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
那時候教育部在追查這些問題油的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
10432.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
10437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
其實他們是會看一個這個食材登錄網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
10437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
10440.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
但是食材登錄網到底登的確不確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
10440.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
10442.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
其實那個也是一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
10442.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
10444.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
好 第二個問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
10444.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
10446.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
其實如果要叫老師去登的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
10446.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
10447.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
老師也很忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
10447.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
10449.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
老師除了要登這個食材登錄網 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
10449.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
10450.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
還有什麼三張EQ |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
10450.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
10452.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
一大堆行政作業要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
10452.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
10454.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
那我最有發現就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
10454.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
10456.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
有營養師的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
10456.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
10458.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
他做得特別好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
10458.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
10461.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
不只是在登錄這一塊行政作業流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
10461.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
10464.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
然後甚至於就是從食材的把關到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
10464.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
10467.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
廚房去盯廚房的製作等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
10467.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
10469.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
有營養師的學校都做得特別好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
10469.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
10471.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
所以我至 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
10470.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
10472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
我現在要提一個修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
10472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
10474.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
我是覺得我是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
10474.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
10476.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
不要死 有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
10475.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
10477.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
班級數的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
10477.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
10478.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
你現在比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
10478.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
10481.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
我就以羅平偉這個版本來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
10481.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
10484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
40班以上要有一個營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
10484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
10486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
那39班呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
10486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
10487.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
39班的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
10488.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
10490.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
也需要營養師把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
10490.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
10491.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
然後自辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
10491.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
10494.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
公餐人數達550人以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
10494.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
10496.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
那如果是500人呢 400人呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
10496.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
10498.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
那現在難道他們不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
10500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
10502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
營養師嗎 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
10502.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
10504.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
我會建議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
10504.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
10505.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
我們不要用人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
10505.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
10508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
我覺得建議應該是每個學校都應該要有營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
10508.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
10511.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
不分人數多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
10511.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
10512.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
應該都要吃的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
10512.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
10514.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
特別是免費營養午餐之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
10514.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
10516.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
那當然教育部也可以講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
10516.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
10519.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
如果不要有人數限制的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
10519.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
10521.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
那這樣預算可以增加多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
10521.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
10526.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
然後那我是了解地方政府其實也都蠻願意配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
10526.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
10527.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
10528.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
10529.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
因為母法一直沒過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
10530.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
10533.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
所以就沒有一個依據去跟地方政府的財政啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
10533.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
10536.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
主計單位去爭取營養師的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
10536.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
10539.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
所以也希望這個可以趕快過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
10539.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
10542.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
然後教育部也可以講一下大概是多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
10542.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
10543.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
10544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
10545.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
好 請教育部回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
10549.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
10550.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
10550.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
10554.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
再配合剛剛柯市長委員是有一個新的修正動議整體說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
10554.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
10560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
那首先這個條文原來的設計有包含機關要治多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
10560.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
10562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
然後學校治多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
10562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
10566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
那學校各種工餐型態怎麼來幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
10566.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
10569.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
那再來就是營養師的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
10570.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
10573.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
好 那以這幾個結構來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
10574.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
10576.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
柯政委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
10576.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
10579.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
就有提到前面幾項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
10579.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
10582.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
職責的部分就沒有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
10582.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
10584.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
那這個是在原來相關的法規中有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
10584.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
10589.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
我們只是讓營養師工作的時候不要覺得好像可以一直外加給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
10589.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
10593.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
而且有一個按照原來法規的一個職長範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
10593.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
10596.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
所以職長的部分我們原來有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
10596.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
10599.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
接著我就分別就幾個核心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
10599.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
10602.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
尤其是人數做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
10603.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
10604.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
就機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
10604.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
10606.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
原來是要治幾個人這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
10607.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
10612.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
好 那因為有很多大小的規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10612.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
10615.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
各縣市可能在台灣的確非常的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
10616.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
10621.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
以台北市 新北市跟離島連江縣來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10626.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
那麼他的範圍 工作的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10626.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10629.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
跟他所轄的學生數差異很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
10629.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
10634.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
一個新北市常常他的數值是全國的五分之一 六分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10635.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10640.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
那連江縣一個縣市 整個縣市的學生數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
10641.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
10643.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
所以整體而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10643.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10647.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
我們原來想的是尊重地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10647.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
10650.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
在他要列相關的人數時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
10650.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
應該要有所尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10651.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10654.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
那所以現在如果定名要擠人的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10654.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
10658.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
恐怕跟原來地方政府看到是尊重的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10658.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
10661.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
會有一點點跟他們原來設想不一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
10661.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
10664.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
那這個再請委員再參考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
10664.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
10667.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
就是縣市的規模實在差異非常的大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10667.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
10669.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
再來就是講到學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
10673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
學校現在有數種公餐型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10673.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
10675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
委員都講得非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10675.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
那目前教育部原版本是對自辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10679.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
10681.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
跟供應他校的也是自辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10682.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10686.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
整體而言大概都比較是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10688.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10694.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
所以公家的我們對於在投入人力上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
10694.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
10696.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
可能原來他本來一直以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
10696.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
10699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
都是政府機關應該要協助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
10699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
10705.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
所以對非比較直接是公辦公營這一類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
10705.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
10707.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
或是公辦公營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
10707.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
10708.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
10709.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
10711.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
我們他校供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
10711.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10714.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
但都本質上他是公校供應公辦公營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
10715.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
這個我們有協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10718.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10719.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
10720.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
10723.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
目前委員這邊提到的委外辦午餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
或是外定團散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10727.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10729.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
在前面法律可以通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
10729.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10731.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
其實就是公辦民營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10731.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10733.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
跟外定團散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10734.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10736.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
就是這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10736.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10741.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
那麼基本上跟公辦公營的屬性就有點差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10741.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10742.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
在原來的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10742.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10746.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
這個因為是原來是廠商得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10746.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10749.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
所以地方政府在談這件事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10749.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10753.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
那會有整體在學生繳費之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
10753.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
10756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
廠商來招攬招標之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10756.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10759.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
就應該有一些他整體的考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10759.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10760.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
他也應該有負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10760.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10762.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
他因負擔之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10762.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
所以原來我們負擔的是200人左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10768.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
那如果照委員所提的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10768.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10770.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
應該會加到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10771.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10773.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
683人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10773.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
就是照3跟4如果再外加進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10780.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
可能會加到將近680到700人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10781.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10783.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
就再外加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10783.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10788.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
那當然我們以一位營養師年薪或相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10788.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10790.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
整個獎金這樣看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10790.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
我們目前是用106萬估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10793.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10794.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
用大數很快的估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10794.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10797.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
因為等一下業委員也有提一個全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10797.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10799.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
我們就用100萬來估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10800.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
類似這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10801.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
只差6萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10803.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
但是會更高的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10803.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10806.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
會比我現在講的用100萬來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10806.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10808.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
很快的大數來估會更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10808.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10810.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
那大數來估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10811.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
200人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10812.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10813.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
就2億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10814.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10817.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
1000人就10億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10818.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
全部的學校3800多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10822.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
就38億了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10822.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10824.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10824.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10825.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
所以剛剛業委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10825.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10827.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
那個就是38億到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10827.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10829.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
因為我用100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10829.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10830.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
不是用106萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10830.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10832.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
可能會到40億左右等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10833.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10837.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
好 以上是學校層級這個人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10842.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10845.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
對 剛剛有講是大概683人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10845.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10847.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
大概就7.23億了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10847.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10849.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
用106萬來估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10849.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10851.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
大概7.23億再外加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10851.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10854.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
原來我們估的是2.3億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10854.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10855.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
2.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10857.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10858.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
原來我們估的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10858.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10860.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
抱歉 2.78億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10860.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10862.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
如果再加 增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10862.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10865.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
可能會再外加7.23億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10866.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
但是這一整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10871.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
委員剛剛也有詳細問到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10871.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10872.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
原來談這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10872.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10874.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
是因為有跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10874.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10877.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
那麼大家也有一些商量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10877.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10879.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
那要外加三跟四 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10879.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10881.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
我們要說一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10881.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10883.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
營養師在我很多次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10884.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10886.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我感覺到營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10886.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10888.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
是對我們學校工餐上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10888.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10890.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
一個不管在營養或食安上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10890.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10891.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
非常重要的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10891.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10894.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
我們是非常肯定他們的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10894.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10896.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
那現在就怎麼樣那個情況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10896.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10898.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
比較能夠幫忙學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10898.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10899.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
幫忙地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10899.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10901.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
那個合理的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10901.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10902.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
再加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10903.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10905.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
不管是空辦民營或是外定團散 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10905.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10908.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
也本來有民間廠商的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10908.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10910.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
那這些怎麼樣來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10910.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
是不是本來我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10913.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10915.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
做的這個有一些得的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10915.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10917.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
就是來保留彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10917.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10919.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
讓地方一起來考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10919.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10921.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
營養師的專業貢獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10921.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10922.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
其實很有價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10922.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10923.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
但是地方的財力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10923.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10925.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
怎麼來應付 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10925.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10928.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
這個負荷得了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10928.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10931.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
以及在真實的情境上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10931.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
怎麼在現實之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10935.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
它的整體規格差異很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10935.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
我舉一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10939.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10944.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
以現在全台灣的小小校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10944.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10947.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
將近有一千校六班的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10947.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10949.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
所以如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10951.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
他們也是跟其他學校一起共餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10957.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
那不管是他採工辦公營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10961.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
公辦民營它本來就是他校公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10961.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
那它有一些事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
它不是那麼直接要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10968.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
那是不是行政減量上的這種方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10968.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10970.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
它應該有很多工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10970.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10973.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
是集中在那整個群長的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10973.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10977.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
或是聯合後那個中心的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10977.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10979.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
其實也是幫忙學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10979.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10983.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
不必再特別去關心這個很行政的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10984.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10985.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
不是行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10985.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10986.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
我們應該是源頭上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10987.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
他們沒有這個行政的這麼大的負荷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10990.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10991.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
這也是我們一直在想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10991.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10993.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
怎麼用群的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10993.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10995.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
前面有講到聯合的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10995.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10996.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
讓學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10997.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10999.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
有一些事是連辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10999.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
11001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
它都不必一定要特別辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
11001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
11003.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
所以是不是這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
11003.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
11004.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
我們是好好商量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
11004.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
11006.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
讓委員這邊可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
11006.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
11007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
可以給我們一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
11010.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
11012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
好 有委員提案保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
11012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
11015.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
好 我們就本條文保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
11020.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
11023.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
第15條 台灣民眾黨黨團提案等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
11023.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
11026.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
第10條及第11條等39個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
11026.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
11028.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
以及委員羅廷瑋柯志恩等人所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
11028.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
11029.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
11030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
11032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
提醒討論 請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
11032.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
11033.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
取消討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
11036.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
11038.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
11038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
11039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
蔡選手委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
11041.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
11043.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
陳秀寶委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
11044.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
11045.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
11047.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
11050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
針對第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
11050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
11053.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
這一個 飲料 直銜秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
11053.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
11057.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
在這裡 我建議就是要讓它專任化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
11057.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
11060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
不要由老師來兼職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
11060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
11062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
11062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
11063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
也許會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
11063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
11065.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
這樣會增加一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
11065.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
11067.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
又增加一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
11067.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
11069.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
這個監會 增加議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
11069.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
11071.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
所以會增加監會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
11071.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
11073.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
事實上我在這裡可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
11073.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
11075.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
就是由職員來兼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
11075.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
11077.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
或者是說以公待職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
11077.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
11078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
這樣子來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
11078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
11081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
不要再讓老師來兼這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
11081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
11082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
午餐秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
11082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
11085.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
讓他們的行政量太大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
11085.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
11088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
然後來影響學生的一個受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
11088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
11090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
11092.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
11094.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
好 謝謝陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
11095.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
11096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
11096.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
11098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
在就第15條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
11098.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
11101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
對應我自己的版本是放在第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
11101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
11103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
11103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
11106.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
我的條文裡面有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
11107.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
11109.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
條文裡面有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
11111.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
11114.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
除務人員的資格條件設置人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
11114.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
11116.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
教育訓練及相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
11116.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
11120.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
由各該主管機關定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
11120.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
11123.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
還有對應到我自己的第13條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
11123.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
11126.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
學校應設置飲食直行秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
11126.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
11129.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
負責學校飲食的這個相關的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
11129.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
11132.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
那前項的飲食直行秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
11132.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
11134.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
得由學校教職員兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
11134.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
11138.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
學校應依規定減少其授課結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
11138.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
11140.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
其設置人數及其相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
11140.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
11143.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
由各該主管機關定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
11143.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
11145.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
本席覺得說除務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
11145.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
11147.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
因為是需要是各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
11147.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
11150.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
辦理學校飲食的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
11150.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
11152.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
所以進行相關配置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
11152.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
11154.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
也應該要因地制宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
11154.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
11156.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
11156.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
11157.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
本席沒有覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
11157.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
11159.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
要把它直接固定在母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
11159.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
11162.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
所以授權給主管機關來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
11162.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
11164.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
那飲食直行秘書的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
11164.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
11166.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
如果是兼任呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
11166.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
11168.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
因為飲食直行秘書的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
11168.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
11169.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
如果要落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
11169.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
11171.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
本席覺得說也應該要減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
11171.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
11173.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
他本身的授課時數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
11173.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
11177.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
對學校的飲食相關事項推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
11177.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
11180.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
比較有辦法去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
11180.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
11182.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
那目前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
11182.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
11184.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
我們的飲食直行秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
11184.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
11187.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
百分之41以上是由教師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
11187.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
11190.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
那如果說是改為組長職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
11190.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
11192.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
也會遇到說寒暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
11192.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
11194.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
能在需要上班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
11194.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
11196.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
但是沒有業務執行這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
11196.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
11198.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
所以這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
11198.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
11202.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
其實我是尊重教育部這邊的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
11202.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
11204.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
但是就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
11204.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
11206.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
我是很建議說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
11206.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
11208.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
應該給地方的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
11208.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
11212.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
有因地制宜他們的這個權限跟彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
11212.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
11217.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
不要就是說直接很硬的規定在母法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
11219.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
11221.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
下一位吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
11221.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
11223.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
再來柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
11223.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
11225.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
對不起我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
11225.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
11227.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
11251.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
11253.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
好 吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
11253.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
11255.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
11255.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
11260.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
這一條對應我是在第13條跟第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
11260.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
11262.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
那主要我的版本是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
11262.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
11266.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
把這個共產執行秘書它的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
11266.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
11269.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
聘認、業務跟薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
11269.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
11273.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
還有學校出工的勞動基準法的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
11273.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
11276.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
工時的工資、教育訓練、人力的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
11276.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
11278.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
以及中央的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
11278.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
11280.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
一併地把它寫進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
11280.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
11282.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
那至於這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
11282.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
11284.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
我們也會提供一些的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
11284.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
11288.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
讓制度跟勞動條件能夠更真完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
11288.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
11290.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
那至於午餐秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
11290.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
11292.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
是不是一定要專職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
11292.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
11294.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
或者是一律要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
11294.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
11297.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
一定要組長化或專職化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
11297.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
11299.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
那我個人認為這個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
11299.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
11301.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
可以大家來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
11301.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
11303.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
但是我特別強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
11303.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
11306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
就是各校公餐的規模跟寒暑假的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
11306.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
11308.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
不盡相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
11308.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
11310.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
那在這種情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
11310.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
11312.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
我們也會在這個情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
11312.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
11314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
去承擔這種採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
11314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
11317.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
食安、帳務跟廠商的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
11317.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
11319.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
這個責任太重了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
11319.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
11321.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
那儲物人員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
11321.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
11323.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
本席就是原來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
11323.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
11326.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
有曾經提出說人數的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
11326.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
11328.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
但是尊重啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
11328.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
11331.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
就是考量地方規模跟財政的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
11331.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
11333.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
是可以依照教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
11333.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
11335.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
由地方來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
11335.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
11337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
那最重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
11337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
11339.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
要有最低的安全基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
11339.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
11342.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
那避免長期以過少的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
11342.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
11344.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
來供應大量的餐食 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
11344.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
11345.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
那以上做這樣的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
11345.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
11346.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
11345.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
11346.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
國務卿會員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
11347.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
11348.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
11348.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
11349.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
那這一條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
11349.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
11351.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
其實我對應到的自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
11351.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
11354.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
是第11條跟第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
11354.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
11355.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
11355.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
11359.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
其實我是提倡設置這個專責的學校飲食秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
11359.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
11362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
也就是說這個不版所稱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
11362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
11364.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
這個執行秘書的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
11364.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
11366.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
但是因為他們在處理事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
11366.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
11367.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
其實非常繁瑣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
11367.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
11370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
那如果說這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
11370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
11371.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
不管是這個原住民啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
11371.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
11373.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
偏遠啊或離島地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
11373.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
11375.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
他的學生比例非不得已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
11375.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
11376.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
非不得已喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
11376.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
11378.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
必須要有所謂的這個專任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
11378.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
11380.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
或是兼任的一個方式喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
11380.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
11381.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
那我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
11381.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
11383.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
或者是由老師來做兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
11383.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
11385.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
那也應該要大幅的減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
11385.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
11387.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
他授課的結束啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
11387.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
11390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
然後來確保他能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
11390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
11392.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
這個老師的負擔不要那麼的重喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
11392.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
11394.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
這是我主要的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
11394.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
11398.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
第11條跟第12條對應到的條文的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
11398.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
11399.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
11401.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
11402.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
11403.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
11405.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
那請下一步回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
11409 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
11410 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
謝謝趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
11412.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
11414.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
市會的委員所發言的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
11415.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
11417.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
這個內容中我跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
11417.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
11420.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
第一個是專兼任這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
11420.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
11423.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
專兼任這個剛剛陳委員已經有分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
11423.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
11425.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
就是說專任的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
11425.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
11428.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
他會涉及到寒暑假的沒有工餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
11428.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
11430.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
他卻要到學校整整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
11430.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
11432.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
大概有三個月的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
11432.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
11433.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
不一定合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
11433.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
11435.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
所以在諮詢現場的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
11435.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
11437.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
也不一定那麼支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
11437.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
11438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
11438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
11440.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
所以有委員說專任這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
11440.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
11442.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
那就有人想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
11442.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
11444.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
用別的方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
11444.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
11445.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
包含地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
11445.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
11446.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
最近也有想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
11446.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
11449.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
譬如說剛剛郭委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
11450.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
11452.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
地方狀況很不一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
11452.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
11454.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
那最近地方政府因為有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
11454.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
11456.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
4165億的挹注之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
11456.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
11458.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
紛紛有一些比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
11459.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
11461.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
對於地方上的因為經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
11461.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
11463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
更彈性之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
11463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
11465.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
有一些更彈性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
11465.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
11467.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
作為來應應地方的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
11467.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
11469.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
所以的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
11469.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
11471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
以我們目前第15條的寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
11471.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
11473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
就是在我們去會商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
11473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
11475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
地方政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
11475.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
11477.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
他們就會有一些比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
11477.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
11479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
在近期內比較好的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
11479.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
11481.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
甚至授課結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
11481.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
11483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
再多減一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
11483.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
11485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
來讓學校可以滿足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
11485.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
11487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
接近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
11487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
11489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
更多的時間應該讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
11489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
11491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
專任的那個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
11491.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
11492.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
但是又不會衝擊到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
11492.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
11493.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
海鼠下又要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
11494.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
11496.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
好所以地方政府的確有在想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
11498.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
11500.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
那現在其實地方政府在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
11500.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
11504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
局長7月7號7月8號的會議中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
11504.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
11506.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
我們提到一個很大的議題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
11506.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
11508.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
大家來想新的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
11508.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
11512.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
有一些可以從源頭就減量的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
11514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
11516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
包含聯合行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
11516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
11518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
包含用新的科技或AI |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
11518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
11522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
讓行政在源頭時就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
11522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
11524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
不必再有一些學校內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
11525.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
11527.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
而不是講先給他有行政工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
11527.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
11529.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
才叫他找人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
11529.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
11531.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
所以第15條我們覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
11531.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
11533.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
可能可以尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
11533.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
11535.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
目前的發展方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
11535.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
11537.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
是不是讓我們跟地方多談一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
11537.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
11539.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
我們有些從源頭來減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
11542.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
11544.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
有一些從真正他們在資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
11544.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
11546.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
可以挹注老師上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
11546.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
11548.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
再多給他談性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
11548.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
11550.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
以目前的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
11550.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
11552.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
那我們就有這樣的設想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
11552.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
11554.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
來幫忙地方給他這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
11554.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
11556.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
權力來多幫忙學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
11556.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
11558.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
那以上還有對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
11558.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
11560.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
儲公的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
11560.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
11562.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
那我也這邊做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
11562.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
11564.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
儲公的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
11565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
11567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
目前是大概1比250 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
11568.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
11570.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
但是地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
11570.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
11572.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
因為就學生人數已經慢慢變少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
11572.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
11574.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
所以分分也有做一些調節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
11574.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
11576.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
但是現在就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
11576.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
11578.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
如果我們母法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
11578.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
11580.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
有寫人數的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
11580.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
11582.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
就如現在的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
11582.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
11584.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
可能有些你寫得太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
11584.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
11586.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
那他可能就改不了變少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
11586.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
11588.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
因為財主單位可能會有法律上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
11588.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
11590.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
看到你是那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
11590.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
11592.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
你要變少的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
11592.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
11594.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
變成有一點談性不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
11594.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
11596.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
因此在目前我們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
11596.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
11598.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
在第15條2項講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
11598.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
11600.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
儲物人員這相關的一些事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
11600.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
11602.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
就是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
11602.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
11604.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
由地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
11604.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
11606.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
他有他自治的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
11606.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
11608.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
來尊重他們是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
11608.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
11610.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
所以寫人數會有未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
11610.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
11612.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
因應不及變化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
11612.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
11614.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
地方政府現在也有很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
11614.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
11616.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
談性在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
11616.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
11618.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
地方上的需求是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
11618.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
11620.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
容我們來跟地方一起努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
11620.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
11622.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
包含新時代的一個聯合行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
11622.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
11624.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
讓還有AI進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
11624.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
11626.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
讓源頭減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
11626.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
11628.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
這些都是一個新的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
11628.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
11630.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
也一併請委員參考說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
11630.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
11632.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
以目前的條文讓我們來跟地方一起努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
11632.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
11634.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
剛剛柯委員有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
11634.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
11636.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
先保留一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
11636.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
11638.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
因為有一些可能在細節討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
11638.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
11640.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
還有地方政府或是學校我們要多尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
11640.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
11642.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
是會給我們一點機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
11642.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
11644.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
在跟縣市有一點討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
11645.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
11647.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
好 那我想我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
11647.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
11649.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
上個會期我也多次開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
11649.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
11651.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
有關於學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
11651.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
11653.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
秘書相關的行政能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
11653.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
11655.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
教師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
11655.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
11657.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
然後還有可以減受課結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
11657.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
11659.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
能力的一個支持跟經費的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
11659.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
11661.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
我想 我記得葉原子委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
11661.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
11663.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
也非常的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
11663.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
11665.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
所以我們對這個部分是非常的重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
11665.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
11667.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
那也感謝蔡村手委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
11667.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
11669.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
對於這個除工 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
11669.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
11671.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
相關的人力的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
11671.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
11673.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
他們該有的一些保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
11673.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
11675.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
跟權益也一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
11675.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
11677.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
所以這個部分我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
11677.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
11679.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
都有其必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
11679.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
11681.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
但是我們為求能夠更加完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
11681.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
11683.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
那是不是我們就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
11684.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
11686.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
好嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
11686.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
11688.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
好 下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
11709.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
11711.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
好 我們一樣是以教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
11711.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
11713.98 |
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這個部分 |
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11713.98 |
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11715.98 |
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來做一個參考 |
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11715.98 |
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11717.98 |
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那其實我自己的修正動議的 |
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11717.98 |
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11719.98 |
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版本跟教育部沒有 |
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11719.98 |
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11721.98 |
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相差太遠 |
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11721.98 |
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11723.98 |
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但是我們最主要是 |
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11723.98 |
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11725.98 |
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有在第一項的部分 |
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11725.98 |
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11727.98 |
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有加學校工餐 |
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11727.98 |
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11729.98 |
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還有健康因素 宗教或健康因素 |
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11729.98 |
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11731.98 |
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之飲食需求 |
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11731.98 |
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11733.98 |
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那第二項我是學校工餐 |
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11733.98 |
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11735.98 |
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應醫組中央主管機關 |
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11735.98 |
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11737.98 |
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按參別所訂之食物內容 |
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11737.98 |
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11739.98 |
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那請國教組待會回應 |
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11739.98 |
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11741.98 |
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那最後一段我有在增加 |
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11741.98 |
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11743.98 |
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學校工餐不得使用含基因改造 |
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11743.98 |
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11745.98 |
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生鮮食材及初級加工品 |
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11749.67 |
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11751.67 |
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那學校工餐不得使用 |
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11751.67 |
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11753.67 |
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法律禁止使用或經主管機關 |
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11753.67 |
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11756.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
目的 事業主管機關依法公告命令 |
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11756.67 |
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11759.67 |
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或通知不得用於學校工餐 |
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11759.67 |
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11761.67 |
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應停止使用 暫停供應 |
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11761.67 |
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11763.67 |
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限期回收 |
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11763.67 |
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11767.67 |
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採行其他必要管制的食品 |
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11767.67 |
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11769.67 |
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食材 原料或其製品 |
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11769.67 |
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11771.67 |
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這部分也是 |
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11771.67 |
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11773.67 |
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因應到 不管是我們對於 |
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11773.67 |
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11775.67 |
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這個 |
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11775.67 |
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11777.67 |
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基改食品 |
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11777.67 |
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11779.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
或是相關的 有疑慮的食材 |
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11779.67 |
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11781.67 |
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甚至是最近 |
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11781.67 |
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11783.67 |
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食用油的部分 |
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11783.67 |
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11785.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
都是希望能夠更明確的寫在法規 |
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11785.67 |
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11787.67 |
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能夠來 |
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11787.67 |
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11789.67 |
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讓我們的孩子 |
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11789.67 |
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11791.67 |
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在營養午餐 |
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11791.67 |
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11793.67 |
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保障最基本的要求 |
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11793.67 |
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11795.67 |
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就是飲食的安全 |
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11795.67 |
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11797.67 |
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這個部分也把它一併列入 |
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11797.67 |
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11799.67 |
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也希望國教組能夠回應 |
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11799.67 |
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11801.67 |
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我想這個 我們都很關心 |
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11801.67 |
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11803.67 |
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食用油 致癌油 |
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11803.67 |
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11805.67 |
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流入校園的一個問題 |
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11805.67 |
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11807.67 |
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所以我們會把一些法令寫進去 |
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11807.67 |
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11809.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
以上 再來就是我們陳秀寶委員 |
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11813.1 |
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11815.1 |
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謝謝主席 |
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11815.1 |
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11817.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
我想對於 |
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11817.1 |
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11819.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
我們的學生 |
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11819.1 |
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11821.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
在學校使用的餐飲 |
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11821.1 |
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11823.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
的這個衛生 營養以及健康 |
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11823.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11825.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
是大家都 |
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11825.1 |
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11827.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
非常非常關心的 |
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11827.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11829.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
但是以現在的狀況 |
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11829.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11831.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
是說 我們是透過契約內容 |
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11831.1 |
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11833.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
的方式 要求學校飲食 |
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11833.1 |
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11835.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
更新食材及廠商 |
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11835.1 |
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11837.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
使用國產肉品 國產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11837.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11839.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
生鮮蔬菜 |
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11839.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11841.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
這四年來其實百分之百我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11841.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11843.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
孩子們都是使用到我們的國產豬肉 |
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11843.1 |
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11845.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
那透過契約的方式 |
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11845.1 |
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11847.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
是可以保障學校 |
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11847.1 |
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11849.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
校園飲食的安全 |
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11849.1 |
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11851.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
那如果說我們發生了一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11851.1 |
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11853.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
我們就把它入法 |
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11853.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11855.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
包括禁用的藥品 |
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11855.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11857.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
或是說現在的油的事件 |
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11857.1 |
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11859.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
你變成是不是每一次 |
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11859.1 |
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11861.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
有狀況發生之後 就要去 |
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11861.1 |
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11863.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
修改一次 那如果說 |
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11863.1 |
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11865.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
我們透過其他的方式 |
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11865.1 |
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11867.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
不管是在契約的 |
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11867.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11869.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
這個規範呢 或是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11869.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11871.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
在我們一些相關執行的辦法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11871.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
我們可以很即時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
很迅速的去回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
現況 然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
馬上做修正 我想對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
我們學童的 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
學生的飲食的健康 |
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11883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
的保障的效率 |
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11885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
會比較好 比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
那根據學生衛生法第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
我們的裡面 |
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11891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
有規定說 學校供應 |
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11893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
膳食其實才應優先採用 |
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11895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
中央農業主管機關 |
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11897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
認證之在地優良農業產品 |
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11899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
11901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
並且只使用含基因改造 |
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11901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
11903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
生鮮食材及其初期 |
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11903.57 |
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11905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
加工品 |
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11905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
11907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
就是說 其實我們在相關的 |
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11907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
11909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
規範裡面 相關的辦法裡面 |
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11909.57 |
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11911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
以及契約裡面 都可以 |
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11911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
11913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
有很即時 而且 |
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11913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
11915.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
很彈性的這些相關 |
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11915.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
11917.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
的規範呢 去規範這些 |
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11917.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
11919.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
供應商 這些 |
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11919.57 |
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11921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
食材的供應呢 |
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11921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
11923.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
都要用最安全的 |
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11923.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
11925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
最健康的食材來提供給我們的 |
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11925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11927.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
孩子 那本席 |
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11927.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
這條條文裡面 |
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11929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11931.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
我一樣是有甄定 |
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11931.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
學校飲食 鼓勵使用在地 |
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11933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11935.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
食材及推廣地方飲食的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11935.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11937.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
那當然大家可以討論 |
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11937.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11939.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
一下 那本席 |
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11939.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
還是覺得說 現況學校飲食 |
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11941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
11943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
已經透過契約的方式來指定 |
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11943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11945.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
使用國產肉品 國產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11945.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
農產品 就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11949.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
不需要再特地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11949.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
新增相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11953.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
也避免會有掛業熱腕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11953.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11955.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
那教育部呢 針對沒有使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11955.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
國產熱品定有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11959.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
罰則 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11959.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11961.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
就只有我們在契約裡面 我們透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11961.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11963.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
契約的內容 我們去完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11963.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
即時的去更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11967.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
規範廠商 規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11967.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11969.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
公餐食材廠商的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11969.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11971.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
應該遵守的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11971.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11973.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
我想這樣子來保障學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11973.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11975.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
的飲食安全是最 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11975.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11977.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
即時最彈性的 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11984.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11986.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
好 來 我們武林法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
針對這個第16條呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11994.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
我個人的版本對應的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11994.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11996.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
第9條跟第10條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11996.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11998.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
那這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11998.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
12000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
特別就是 要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
12000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
12002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
回應的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
12002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
12004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
要求營養基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
12004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
12006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
每三年做通盤檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
12006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
12008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
然後明定主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
12008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
12010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
得會同農業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
12010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
12012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
鼓勵採用在地食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
12012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
12014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
發展地方飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
12014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
12016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
特色 以及訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
12016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
12018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
補助規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
12018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
12020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
希望能夠回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
12020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
12022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
像原住民族的傳統作物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
12022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
12026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
地產地銷 跟文化飲食的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
12026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
12028.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
那這一條呢 其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
12028.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
12030.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
國產可溯源是基本要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
12030.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
12032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
那我是希望可以再往前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
12032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
12034.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
走到在地跟文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
12034.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
12036.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
那特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
12036.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
12038.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
推動多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
12038.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
12040.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
其實在原住民族地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
12040.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
12042.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
可以看到的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
12042.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
12044.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
就是傳統作物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
12044.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
12046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
傳統作物是離孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
12046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
12048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
最近的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
12048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
12050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
但是最難進入學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
12050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
12052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
那像小米 樹豆 芋頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
12052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
12054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
很多的校園都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
12054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
12056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
種在校園裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
12056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
12058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
那是地方的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
12058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
12060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
也是民族的味覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
12060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
12062.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
但是我們希望主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
12062.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
12064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
能夠去突破 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
12064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
12066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
跟農業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
12066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
12068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
看怎麼樣去鼓勵採用在地的食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
12068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
12070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
這個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
12070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
12072.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
我覺得個人版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
12072.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
12074.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
非常重視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
12074.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
12076.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
12076.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
12078.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
仍舊有很多的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
12078.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
12080.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
沒有校聘的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
12080.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
12082.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
那我這邊是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
12082.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
12084.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
還是希望請教育部能夠說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
12084.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
12086.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
到底是由合聘營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
12086.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
12088.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
主管機關營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
12088.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
12090.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
還是廠商的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
12090.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
12092.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
來負責這個督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
12092.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
12094.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
及執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
12094.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
12096.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
這個第二項的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
12096.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
12098.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
那這個部分我是希望不要留下責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
12098.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
12100.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
一個真空 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
12100.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
12102.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
那這個部分做這樣的一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
12102.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
12104.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
12105.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
12107.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
好 郭一級衛員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
12107.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
12111.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
好 這第16條對應到我的第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
12111.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
12113.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
那原則上其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
12113.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
12115.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
看這個教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
12115.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
12117.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
版本其實因為我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
12117.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
12119.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
比較尚未法 其實沒有把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
12119.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
12121.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
很多比較細節的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
12121.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
12123.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
寫在上面 但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
12123.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
12125.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
其中我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
12125.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
12127.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
有特別寫到應優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
12127.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
12129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
採用在地可溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
12129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
12131.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
之農產品 那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
12131.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
12133.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
我看到布板是寫國產在地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
12133.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
12135.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
那這個部分我們是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
12135.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
12137.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
把它改成所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
12137.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
12139.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
應該是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
12139.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
12141.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
在地可溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
12141.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
12143.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
把國產改成在地這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
12143.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
12145.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
12147.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
12149.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
好 那剛剛有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
12152.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
12154.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
很專業的提出這個學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
12154.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
12156.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
其實有部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
12156.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
12158.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
已經納入了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
12158.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
12160.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
那也跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
12160.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
12162.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
那我們可以繼續往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
12162.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
12164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
稍微看一下第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
12164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
12166.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
那在教育部的第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
12166.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
12168.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
學校衛生法第22條、23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
12168.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
12170.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
第1項、第2項、第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
12170.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
12172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
之2、第23條之3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
12172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
12174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
第27條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
12174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
12178.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
於學校供應學生午餐部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
12178.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
12180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
自本條文施行起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
12181.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
12183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
第23條之1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
12183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
12187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
自本條例14條施行起均不再適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
12187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
12189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
所以它就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
12189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
12191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
有特別明定為什麼要設定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
12191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
12193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
在這個營養午餐的法案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
12193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
12195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
就是因為我們有特別就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
12195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
12197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
開始要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
12197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
12199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
用營養午餐相關的法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
12199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
12201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
12201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
12203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
那學校衛生法這部分就停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
12203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
12205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
所以才會我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
12206.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
12208.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
立即點是在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
12208.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
12210.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
也跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
12210.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
12212.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
那再來教育部請回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
12214.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
12218.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
剛剛委員有幾個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
12218.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
12220.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
那我可能快的跟大家做個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
12220.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
12222.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
第一點是原民 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
12222.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
12224.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
剛剛委員講了原民作物這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
12224.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
12226.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
那我們剛剛在第10條有報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
12226.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
12228.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
有一個在地食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
12228.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
12232.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
那現在因為在地跟那個可塑園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
12232.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
12234.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
有時候在很偏鄉的地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
12234.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
12236.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
怕那個比較偏鄉地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
12236.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
12240.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
要怎麼樣可以做到可塑園或是章 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
12240.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
12242.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
那會有一些跟農業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
12242.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
12244.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
農業主管機關有一些彈性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
12244.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
12246.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
協助的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
12246.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
12248.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
所以目前我們在第10條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
12248.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
12250.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
或第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
12250.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
12252.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
就試圖去整合這樣的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
12252.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
12254.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
讓有一些可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
12254.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
12256.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
在地採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
12256.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
12260.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
跟要去處理可塑園食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
12260.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
12262.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
這兩個可以得到兼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
12262.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
12264.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
第二個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
12266.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
12268.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
12267.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
12269.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
在立法技術上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
12269.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
12271.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
如果現在我們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
12273.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
12275.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
要新訂在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
12275.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
12277.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
可能會有原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
12277.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
12279.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
已經立法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
12279.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
12283.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
它其實是沒有在整個國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
12283.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
12285.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
引起有一些什麼紛擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
12285.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
12287.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
那現在如果在本次立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
12287.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
12289.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
又要再做一次處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
12289.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
12291.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
可能在相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
12291.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
12293.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
有關的國際的整體運作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
12293.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
12295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
是不是會衝擊過大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
12295.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
12297.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
可是我們原來就有條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
12297.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
12299.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
像學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
12299.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
12301.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
然後我們也有契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
12301.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
12303.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
可以做比較嚴明的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
12303.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
12305.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
是不是有一些條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
12305.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
12307.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
我們是可以跟學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
12307.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
12309.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
整合在一起運用即可 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
12309.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
12311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
都是法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
12311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
12313.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
那我們不動的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
12313.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
12315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
可以綜合處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
12315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
12317.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
大家委員關心的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
12317.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
12319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
再加上有契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
12319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
12321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
可以在臨時及時的應用上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
12321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
12323.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
也比較大的來做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
12323.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
12325.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
跟契約可以寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
12325.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
12327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
比較完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
12327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
12329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
整體立法技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
12329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
12331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
在因應國際的發展上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
12331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
12333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
我們用這兩法就有一些課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
12333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
12335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
是用這樣的方式來整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
12335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
12337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
去往前進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
12338.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
12340.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
最後一點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
12340.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
12342.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
有關營養師這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
12342.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
12344.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
12344.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
12346.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
營養師有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
12346.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
12348.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
不管是人數或是相關的進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
12348.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
12350.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
相關議題的探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
12350.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
12352.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
因為剛剛有談到可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
12352.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
12354.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
保留在詳詳細細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
12354.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
12356.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
跟地方政府或是有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
12356.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
12358.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
營養師的有關協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
12358.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
12360.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
好好地來就教起義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
12360.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
12362.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
還有地方的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
12362.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
12364.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
是不是吳委員所提的那一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
12364.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
12366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
我們併同那邊一起做商量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
12366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
12368.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
以上三點補充完畢 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
12369.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
12371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
12370.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
12372.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
那 還沒 我也有一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
12374.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
12376.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
好 教育部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
12376.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
12378.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
也有一些建議啦 我想的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
12378.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
12380.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
大家都希望能夠更加完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
12381.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
12383.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
那是不是我們就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
12384.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
12386.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
12386.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
12388.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
那 接著我要來宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
12388.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
12390.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
補充宣告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
12390.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
12392.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
委員葉元之等人提出第十四條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
12392.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
12394.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
修正動議一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
12394.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
12396.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
那 再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
12397.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
12399.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
我們要處理第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
12400.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
12402.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
12402.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
12404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
黨團提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
12404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
12406.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
等三十八個提案以及委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
12406.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
12408.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
羅廷瑋 柯志恩等人所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
12408.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
12410.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
12410.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
12412.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
請委員舉手發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
12413.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
12415.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
好 募集 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
12415.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
12417.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
村村委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
12419.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
12421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
好 這裡針對第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
12421.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
12423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
12423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
12425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
12425.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
12427.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
教育部的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
12427.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
12429.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
辦理學校午餐採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
12429.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
12431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
的契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
12431.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
12433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
這個契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
12433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
12435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
是不是這個範本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
12435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
12437.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
應該要明定供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
12437.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
12439.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
供應廠商還有食材供應商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
12439.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
12441.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
跟售托供應業者之 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
12441.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
12443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
食品的安全通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
12443.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
12445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
產品的責任保險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
12445.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
12447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
還有原料來源 產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
12447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
12449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
流向以及追溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
12449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
12451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
追蹤資料之提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
12451.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
12453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
停止使用後供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
12453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
12455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
妥善留存後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
12455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
12457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
隔離保管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
12457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
12459.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
配合依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
12459.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
12461.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
封存回收還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
12461.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
12463.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
替代供餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
12463.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
12465.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
損害賠償終止後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
12465.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
12467.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
解除契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
12467.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
12469.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
理約保證及保證金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
12469.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
12471.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
處理及違規退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
12471.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
12473.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
12473.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
12475.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
在這裡做個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
12475.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
12477.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
12481.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
12483.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
好 那嗨木也有一間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
12485.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
12487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
12487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
12489.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
12489.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
12491.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
第17條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
12491.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
12493.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
對應到我的版本是第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
12493.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
12495.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
12495.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
12497.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
我是將公平採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
12497.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
12499.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
書面契約 契約規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
12499.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
12501.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
範本 專戶管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
12501.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
12503.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
跟收支公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
12503.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
12505.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
整合在這個一條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
12505.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
12507.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
那形成從採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
12507.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
12509.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
到財務公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
12509.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
12511.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
完整治理鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
12511.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
12513.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
然後明定不得有無正當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
12513.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
12515.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
理由的差別對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
12515.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
12517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
那教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
12517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
12519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
是另外就政府採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
12519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
12521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
適用的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
12521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
12523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
寫得比較清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
12523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
12525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
那學校午餐採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
12525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
12527.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
它的專業度很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
12527.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
12529.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
那中央訂定契約範本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
12529.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
12531.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
是可以保護學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
12531.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
12533.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
這個部分是本席非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
12533.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
12535.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
但是範本不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
12535.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
12537.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
只有採購法的刑事條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
12537.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
12539.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
希望可以把食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
12539.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
12541.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
營養師的工作權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
12541.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
12543.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
食材的替換 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
12543.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
12545.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
過敏原追溯抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
12545.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
12547.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
以及共餐違約責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
12547.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
12549.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
跟價格調整的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
12549.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
12551.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
都能夠寫清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
12551.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
12553.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
那另外針對我關心的原篇箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
12553.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
12555.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
我希望配合教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
12555.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
12557.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
版本的第十條允許 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
12557.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
12559.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
這些學校聯合採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
12559.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
12561.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
還有跨行政區合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
12561.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
12563.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
那不能讓標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
12563.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
12565.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
範本反而增加了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
12565.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
12567.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
小校的一個行政門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
12567.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
12569.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
所以以上的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
12571.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
12573.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
好 還有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
12576.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
12578.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
然後請教育部說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
12578.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
12580.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
好 謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
12580.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
12582.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
各位委員剛剛所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
12582.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
12584.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
在回應這一條的精神上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
12584.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
12586.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
大概都是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
12586.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
12588.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
採購或是一些公正的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
12588.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
12590.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
公平的這個原理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
12590.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
12592.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
來讓學校得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
12592.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
12594.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
12594.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
12596.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
那這裡剛剛委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
12596.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
12598.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
像委員剛剛有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
12598.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
12600.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
要在正常的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
12600.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
12602.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
不能夠行差別對待的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
12602.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
12604.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
12604.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
12606.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
7月內就食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
12606.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
12608.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
或是養生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
12608.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
12610.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
或是養殖 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
12610.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
12612.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
這個因為是在7月裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
12612.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
12614.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
我們可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
12614.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
12616.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
是不是那一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
12616.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
12618.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
是在7月來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
12618.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
12620.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
至於差別對待這一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
12620.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
12622.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
因為在採購法是非常的嚴正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
12622.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
12624.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
12624.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
12626.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
只要按照採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
12626.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
12628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
大概他得到的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
12628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
12630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
會比起我們額外寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
12630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
12632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
會來得周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
12632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
12634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
所以我們這邊不太敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
12634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
12636.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
採購法之外外加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
12636.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
12638.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
所以採購法精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
12638.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
12640.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
一定要確實遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
12640.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
12642.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
這個放出全國接准 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
12642.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
12644.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
也很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
12644.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
12646.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
不管廠商或是學校工作時的准據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
12646.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
12648.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
大家有一個一致的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
12648.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
12650.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
那我們在相關的專法之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
12650.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
12652.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
如果在有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
12653.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
12655.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
額外的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
12655.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
12657.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
那種關心可能要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
12658.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
12660.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
機關間要做一個確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
12660.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
12662.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
免得我們這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
12662.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
12664.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
要求或關心會被在採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
12664.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
12666.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
相關的條文中的適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
12666.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
12668.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
要有做一個完整的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
12668.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
12670.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
所以我個人建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
12670.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
12672.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
是不是還是我們國家的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
12672.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
12674.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
就按照採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
12674.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
12676.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
會比較嚴明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
12676.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
12678.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
那至於在下一層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
12679.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
12681.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
契約的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
12681.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
12683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
按照本法學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
12683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
12685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
相關授權執法行政措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
12685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
12687.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
地方自治條例等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
12687.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
12689.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
他的整個周延性跟可操作性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
12689.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
12691.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
會受到法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
12691.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
12693.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
跟授權執法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
12693.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
12695.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
12695.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
12697.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
至於他的內涵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
12697.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
12699.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
要嚴正在食安上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
12699.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
12701.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
過敏原處理等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
12701.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
12703.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
也比較能夠得到保障的處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
12703.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
12705.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
但是委員所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
12705.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
12707.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
我們會跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
12707.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
12709.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
去努力契約的面向上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
12709.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
12711.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
去檢視食安的包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
12711.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
12713.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
採法過敏原的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
12713.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
12715.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
或是特殊情形的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
12716.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
12718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
學生飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
12718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
12720.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
有沒有關照到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
12720.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
12722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
這個我們在這一波 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
12722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
12724.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
會做那個層次的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
12724.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
12726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
母法上是不是按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
12726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
12728.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
我們聽了很多委員的建議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
12728.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
12730.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
目前我們這個版本也是歸納自委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
12730.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
12732.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
是不是照這個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
12732.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
12734.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
是最大的共識 以上補充 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
12737.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
12739.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
好 還有委員有建議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
12742.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12744.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
第十七條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12748 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12750 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12751.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
陳總委員 那您覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12759.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12761.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
麻煩你拿麥克風 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12763.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12765.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
我們國家署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12765.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12767.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
有說明啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12767.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12769.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
接著說按照教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12769.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12771.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
運行委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12774.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12776.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
我剛剛看到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12776.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12778.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
有部分的委員還有我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12778.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12780.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
因為這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12780.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12782.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
我是對應到我自己的十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12782.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12784.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
那就是依照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12784.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12786.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
會計法跟相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12786.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12788.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
辦理他的收支明細是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12788.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12790.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
應該要每學期結束後兩個月之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12790.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12792.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
公告 這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12792.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12794.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
我看有部分的其他的委員好像也 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12794.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12796.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
特別提到 那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12796.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12798.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
教育部有什麼樣的一個回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12798.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12800.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
還是說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12800.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12802.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
要放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12802.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12804.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
這個條文其實我們現行就要再處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12804.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12806.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
也是放在了二十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12806.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12808.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
是不是有關的項目的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12808.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12810.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
在那邊統整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12810.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12812.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
這邊講採購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12812.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12814.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
好 沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12814.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12816.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
好 那我們就照教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12819.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12821.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
好 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
12821.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12825.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
第十條 學校應以公開公平之程序辦理學校午餐採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
12825.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12827.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
不得要求廠商提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
12827.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
12829.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
資訊學校活動或措施所需資金費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
12831.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12833.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
或設備等其他回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
12833.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12835.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
學校辦理學校午餐採購之契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
12835.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
12837.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
應以中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
12837.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12839.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
應以採用中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
12839.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
訂制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
12841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
12843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
範本委員者報請主管機關備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
12843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
12845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
請向範本由中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12845.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
訂制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
12847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
12849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
公立學校應依政府採購法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12849.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
辦理學校午餐採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12851.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12853.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
實力學校應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12853.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12855.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
實力學校符合該法第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
12855.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
第一項規定者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
12859.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
一同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12860.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12862.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
好 那我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12862.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
12864.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
修正通過照教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12864.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
12866.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
12867.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
12869.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
第十八條 台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12869.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
12871.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12871.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
12873.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
等三十七個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12873.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12875.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
以及委員羅廷瑋柯志恩等人所提修正提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12877.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
12879.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
我們看第十 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
12879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
12881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
12881.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
12883.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
12882.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
12884.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
我先講第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12884.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
12886.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
我們基本上只是多增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
12886.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
12888.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
應辦理學校公餐相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
12888.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
12890.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
的一個衛生訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
12890.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
12892.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
那當然我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
12892.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
12894.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
第二段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12894.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
12896.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
12896.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
12900.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
地方主管機關稽查學校公餐辦理的情形喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
12900.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
12902.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
那這個部分 那最後一段我們有在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12904.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
12908.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
主管機關或學校之西學校公餐之所使用的食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12908.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
12910.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
食材原料或其供應鏈發生重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12910.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
12912.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
突發性的食品衛生安全事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12912.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12916.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
或有危害學生健康公餐安全疑慮時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12916.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
12918.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
應立即相互通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12918.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
12920.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
並通報學校所在地的衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12920.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
12922.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
涉及外部公餐作業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12925.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12929.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
並應通知該場所所在的衛生主管機關必要時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12929.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12933.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
並應通知相關目的事業主管機關喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12933.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12935.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12935.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12937.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
及學校應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12937.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12939.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
其權責辦理清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12939.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
12941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
追溯及資料比對 |
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12941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
並視情形採取停止使用或供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
妥善留存隔離保管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12948.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12951.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
替代公餐及其他必要措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12951.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12957.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
有關供應廠商、食材供應商或受託公餐業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12957.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
應以相關法令契約停止供應及辦理回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12965.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
依法應與封存者由衛生主管機關辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12965.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12967.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
這個部分也跟所有的委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12968.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12970.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
我想我們希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12970.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12972.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
就像這一次的食用油問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12972.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12974.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
相關的主管機關有責任義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12974.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12977.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
要趕緊跨部會來做通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12977.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12979.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
第一線來通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12979.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
那也把它入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12982.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
來讓我們所有的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12982.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12984.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
這個所在的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12984.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12986.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
能夠在第一時間馬上知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12986.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12988.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
第一時間馬上下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12988.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
第一時間馬上留存相關的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12992.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
這個部分所以我把它立法在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12992.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12994.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
那也是因應這一次的食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12994.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12996.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
自燃油的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12996.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12998.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
也跟大家特別懇求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12998.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
13000.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
這個部分應該要列入到法案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
13000.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
13002.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
13002.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
13004.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
好 參選委員在陳水火保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
13005.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
13007.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
好 那正在剛剛我們羅昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
13007.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
13009.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
所提的這些食品入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
13009.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
13011.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
13011.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
13013.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
尤其是最近這個毒油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
13013.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
13015.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
讓人心惶惶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
13015.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
13017.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
所以我本人同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
13017.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
13019.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
羅昭偉的一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
13019.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
13021.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
13023.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
13025.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
好 秀寶委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
13025.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
13027.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
13027.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
13029.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
在學校衛生法裡面就有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
13029.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
13031.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
中央指揮機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
13031.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
13033.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
應定期會同執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
13033.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
13035.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
是縣市政府稽查學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
13035.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
13037.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
辦理情形便派人訪視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
13037.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
13039.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
13039.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
13041.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
我們的食品衛生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
13041.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
13043.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
食品安全衛生管理法裡面也有寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
13043.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
13045.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
13045.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
13047.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
食品業者之純業人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
13047.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
13049.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
作業場所設施衛生管理平保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
13049.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
13051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
制度均應符合食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
13051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
13053.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
治療好衛生的這個規範準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
13053.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
13055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
那教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
13055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
13057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
建議條文第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
13057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
13059.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
對應到我自己的版本是在第9條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
13059.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
13061.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
以及第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
13061.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
13063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
那其實內容是大同小異 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
13063.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
13065.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
大家就針對學校飲食的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
13065.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
13067.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
衛生管理及食品進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
13067.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
13069.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
相關的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
13069.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
13071.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
13071.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
13073.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
學校應加強廚房及其他餐飲場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
13073.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
13075.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
之衛生管理每周 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
13075.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
13077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
應至少檢查學校廚房一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
13077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
13079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
並與記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
13079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
13081.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
保存三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
13081.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
13083.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
那還有主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
13083.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
13085.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
應該每學年至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
13085.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
13087.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
一次有衛生及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
13087.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
13089.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
農業主管機關抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
13089.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
13091.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
學校食品及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
13091.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
13093.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
源頭端的農產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
13093.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
13095.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
並 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
13096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
13098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
就是農產品的這個衛生及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
13098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
13100.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
安全的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
13100.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
13102.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
就是為了這個學校的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
13102.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
13104.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
飲食的健康來把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
13104.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
13106.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
那對於就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
13106.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
13108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
定期稽查法是學校飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
13108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
13110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
來符合食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
13110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
13112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
安全衛生管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
13112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
13114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
這個相關的準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
13114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
13116.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
規範這邊我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
13116.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
13118.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
可以支持教育部的條文但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
13118.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
13120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
我想知道說學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
13120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
13122.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
你們所訂的這個稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
13122.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
13124.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
這個稽查的結果是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
13124.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
13126.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
會進其公布我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
13126.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
13128.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
你們有稽查那有結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
13128.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
13130.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
也是要讓關心的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
13130.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
13132.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
家長知道你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
13132.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
13134.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
稽查的結果以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
13138.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
13140.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
我們花園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
13140.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
13142.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
好關於第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
13142.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
13144.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
我這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
13144.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
13146.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
其實基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
13146.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
13148.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
支持教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
13148.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
13150.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
但是我需要聽一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
13150.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
13152.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
因為我自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
13152.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
13154.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
的版本是比較在意的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
13154.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
13156.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
因為有提到主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
13156.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
13158.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
要匯同衛生農業主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
13158.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
13160.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
機關那這個如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
13160.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
13162.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
教育衛生農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
13162.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
13164.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
他各用一套表單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
13164.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
13166.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
然後在不同的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
13166.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
13168.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
重複的查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
13168.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
13170.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
我不曉得這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
13170.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
13172.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
因為我們理想上是希望匯同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
13172.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
13174.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
稽查就有統一的檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
13174.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
13176.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
項目結果的共享 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
13176.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
13178.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
跟一次的改善追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
13178.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
13180.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
所以這個部分想要了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
13180.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
13182.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
那第二個就是說也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
13182.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
13184.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
提到就是這些廚房 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
13184.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
13186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
老舊的部分那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
13186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
13188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
發現廚房老舊冷藏通風 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
13188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
13190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
排水這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
13190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
13192.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
那主管機關呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
13192.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
13194.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
是不是不能只要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
13194.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
13196.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
限期改善因為我們最終 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
13196.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
13198.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
還是希望安全所以是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
13198.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
13200.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
要連結第八條的一個設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
13200.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
13202.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
補助那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
13202.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
13204.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
關於人員訓練他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
13204.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
13206.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
對象時數跟方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
13206.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
13208.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
可以放在此法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
13208.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
13210.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
但是要不要提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
13210.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
13212.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
什麼公假待班或 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
13212.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
13214.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
線上課程等等那希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
13214.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
13216.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
就是不要增加這種未經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
13216.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
13218.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
補償的這種工作負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
13218.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
13220.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
那希望先做一聽一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
13220.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
13222.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
教育部的說明謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
13223.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
13225.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
好 工學委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
13226.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
13228.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
沒有對不起對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
13228.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
13230.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
那我也可以講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
13230.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
13232.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
13232.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
13234.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
那個部版的這個第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
13234.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
13236.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
是對應到我的第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
13236.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
13238.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
那我們理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
13238.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
13240.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
其實是一致的就要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
13240.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
13242.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
每週要檢查廚房還有其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
13242.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
13244.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
飲食的一個場所並 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
13244.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
13246.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
做紀錄那面對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
13246.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
13248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
校園食物中毒的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
13248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
13250.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
事件也應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
13250.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
13252.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
就是每學年要至少跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
13252.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
13254.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
農業或者是衛生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
13254.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
13256.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
單位來抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
13256.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
13258.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
那我想這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
13258.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
13260.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
就是我的方向是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
13260.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
13262.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
那等一下就是剛剛武林華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
13262.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
13264.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
所提到的再請教一部來做一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
13264.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
13266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
說明好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
13267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
13269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
好 不好意思我再補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
13269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
13271.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
我想說日本跟韓國的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
13271.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
13273.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
都顯示學校午餐具有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
13273.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
13275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
教育 營養 學生安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
13275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
13277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
特殊性 跟一般的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
13277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
13279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
食品安全法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
13279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
13281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
的處理我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
13281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
13283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
一般食品安全法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
13283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
13285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
它主要規範是食品製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
13285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
13287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
檢驗流通追溯下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
13287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
13289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
及業者的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
13289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
13291.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
但是學校午餐專法則進一步處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
13291.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
13293.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
食品進入校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
13293.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
13295.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
由誰檢驗 誰管理 驗收 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
13295.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
13297.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
通報 停止使用 誰來處理決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
13297.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
13299.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
如何安排誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
13299.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
13301.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
替代共餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
13301.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
13303.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
如何告知家長 營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
13303.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
13305.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
學校 教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
13305.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
13307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
各應該負的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
13307.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
13309.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
所以韓國在整個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
13309.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
13311.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
重大校園食安事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
13311.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
13313.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
全面強化學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
13313.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
13315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
的一個相關法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
13315.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
13317.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
正說明一般食安法與學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
13317.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
13319.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
午餐專法的必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
13319.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
13321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
是相互銜接的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
13321.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
13323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
不是拿來相互取代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
13323.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
13325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
我覺得這兩者我要在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
13325.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
13327.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
跟所有的委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
13327.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
13329.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
我覺得它有其特殊性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
13329.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
13331.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
就是營養午餐的這個地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
13331.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
13333.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
跟它的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
13333.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
13335.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
跟一般的食品的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
13335.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
13337.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
這部分也跟所有的委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
13337.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
13339.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
那再來我們請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
13343.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
13345.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
剛剛有八位委員所提的這些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
13345.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
13349.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
其實在春秋委員這邊所提之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
13349.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
13351.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
變得還包含朝委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
13351.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
13353.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
內容展變得更豐富多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
13355.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
13357.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
那現在我分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
13357.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
13359.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
兩個面向跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
13359.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
13361.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
第一個就是原來的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
13361.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
13365.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
是就相關既有機制強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
13365.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
13367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
那這一次委員給我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
13367.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
13369.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
更加強了這一次食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
13369.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
13371.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
有的這個問題的因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
13371.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
13375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
這是目前所特別加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
13375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
13377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
是羅委員跟蔡委員特別加這個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
13377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
13379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
那其他委員也都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
13379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
13383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
我先就目前的設計跟大家做個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
13383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
13385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
是不是有一些條文其實有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
13385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
13387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
只是說它現況怎麼運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
13387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
13389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
各位委員想要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
13389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
13391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
有沒有附和委員的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
13391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
13393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
例如前面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
13393.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
13395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
13395.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
13397.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
是在講學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
13397.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
13399.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
第二三項開始講學校跟主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
13400.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
13402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
所以學校主管機關怎麼查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
13402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
13404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
在前三項有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
13404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
13406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
簡單的講學校每週 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
13407.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
13409.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
主管機關美學年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
13409.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
13411.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
有些縣市美學期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
13411.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
13413.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
大概就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
13413.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
13415.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
學校是每週 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
13414.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
13416.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
各主管機關法律要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
13416.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
13418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
從學校衛生法到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
13418.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
13420.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
大概就是美學年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
13420.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
13422.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
有些縣市用自治條例變成美學期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
13422.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
13424.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
那剛剛委員有問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
13424.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
13426.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
是怎麼樣去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
13426.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
13428.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
是會同去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
13428.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
13430.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
不會分別去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
13430.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
13432.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
以前的法規是這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
13432.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
13434.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
我們也這樣運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
13434.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
13436.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
現在的法規也是依以前運作以來很有效果的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
13436.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
13438.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
是會同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
13438.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
13440.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
那但藉由一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
13438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
13440.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
我們學校的食品的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
13440.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
13442.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
進用的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
13442.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
13444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
跟管制的相關的作業規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
13444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
13446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
其實目前學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
13446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
13448.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
在強度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
13448.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
13450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
相對是很強的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
13450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
13452.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
比起有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
13452.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
13454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
當食藥署宣布什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
13454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
13456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
學校我們一清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
13456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
13458.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
我們有時候是直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
13458.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
13460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
就先直接下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
13460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
13462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
所以在整個管控的特殊性上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
13462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
13464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
跟昭偉講的是很像的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
13464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
13466.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
跟外面的食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
13466.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
13468.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
有時候我們直接下架的強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
13468.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
13470.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
跟地方政府確認之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
13470.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
13472.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
我們直接宣布就先處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
13472.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
13474.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
有時候的確有他的特殊性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
13474.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
13476.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
那現況也是這樣運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
13476.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
13478.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
跟昭偉報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
13478.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
13480.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
最後就是回應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
13480.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
13482.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
剛剛有幾個可能一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
13482.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
13484.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
確認要不要放上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
13484.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
13486.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
13486.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
13488.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
一二三四五 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
13488.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
13490.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
第六項昭偉剛剛所念的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
13490.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
13492.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
很用心想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
13494.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
13496.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
共產廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
13495.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
13497.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
工業廠商等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
13497.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
13499.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
他們一知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
13499.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
13501.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
有什麼狀況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
13501.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
13503.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
應該要立即通知學校跟主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
13503.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
13505.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
13504.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
13506.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
要馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
13507.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
13509.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
通知了這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
13508.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
13510.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
跟以近況來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
13510.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
13512.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
的確這個是新訂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
13513.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
13515.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
以目前我們的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
13515.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
13517.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
我們是透過我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
13517.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
13519.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
整個智慧雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
13519.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
13521.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
處理出來的通報學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
13521.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
13523.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
要求他趕快就細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
13523.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
13525.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
做了解然後回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
13525.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
13527.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
然後該下架就立即做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
13527.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
13529.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
那委員講的這一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
13529.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
13531.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
是連廠商自己就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
13531.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
13533.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
應該有責任要主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
13533.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
13535.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
那這個我們可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
13535.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
13537.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
只是說條文的意旨上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
13537.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
13539.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
因為會涉及到中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
13539.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
13541.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
還有一些主管機關包含食藥署等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
13541.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
13543.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
這個文字我沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
13543.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
13545.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
這麼快在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
13545.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
13547.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
就覺得好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
13547.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
13549.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
因為剛看到是不是可以允許 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
13549.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
13551.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
食藥署或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
13551.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
13553.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
衛福部的夥伴也確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
13555.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
13557.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
那昭偉所提的分號後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
13557.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
13559.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
涉及到外部工餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
13559.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
13561.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
作業場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
13561.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
13565.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
這個就會有涉及到學校級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
13565.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
13567.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
有關的作業上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
13567.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
13571.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
不一定是學校能夠利用契約直接掌握的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
13572.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
13574.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
這個時候是不是也食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
13574.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
13576.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
有些相關規範也聽聽他們的高見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
13576.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
13578.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
13579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
13581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
昭偉所提的第六項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
13581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
13583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
我們覺得方向上可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
13583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
13585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
在支持度上應該會獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
13585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
13587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
大家的包含其他委員看看是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
13587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
13589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
可以有沒有我們漏思考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
13589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
13591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
沒有的話其他的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
13591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
13593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
是不是我們建請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
13593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
13595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
衛福部要稍微再確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
13595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
13597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
有沒有在目前其實有些法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
13597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
13599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
包含相關的食品衛生法已經有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
13599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
13601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
這個就沒有把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
13601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
13603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
是不是可以請食藥署或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
13603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
13605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
衛福部說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
13605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
13607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
好那這樣子我請食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
13607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
13609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
我們衛福部稍微看一下法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
13609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
13611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
可以現在回令嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
13611.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
13613.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
好你們先看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
13613.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
13615.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
跟委員特別報告基本上聽起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
13615.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
13617.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
國教署是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
13617.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
13619.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
認同這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
13619.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
13621.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
但文字上要不要馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
13621.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
13623.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
定調再給他們一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
13623.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
13625.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
13627.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
13629.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
我是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
13629.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
13631.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
也給你們不要現在就馬上決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
13631.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
13633.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
食藥署跟衛福部你們回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
13633.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
13635.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
再討論一下我們先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
13636.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
13638.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
我們先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
13638.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
13640.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
你們回去好好討論一下在用字潛質上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
13640.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
13642.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
能不能更加完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
13642.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
13644.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
有關於我今天先不逼你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
13644.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
13646.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
馬上申出版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
13646.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
13648.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
剛剛國教署有說這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
13648.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
13650.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
大致可以認同但是分號後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
13650.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
13652.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
有關於外部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
13653.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
13655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
在這個公餐的作業場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
13655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
13657.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
要通報當地主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
13657.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
13659.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
衛生主管機關這部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
13659.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
13661.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
用字潛質你們看怎麼因應怎麼寫會更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
13662.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
13664.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
報告召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
13664.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
13666.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
剛剛不管是分號前或後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
13666.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
13668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
還是請食藥署都可以一起看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
13668.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
13670.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
以及像剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
13670.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
13672.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
秀華委員等等還有包含幾會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
13672.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
13674.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
有提到說有一些結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
13674.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
13676.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
要公告出來這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
13676.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
13678.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
也都蠻有價值的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
13678.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
13680.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
所以這兩點上是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
13680.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
13682.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
也建請食藥署整體還有我們同仁這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
13682.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
13684.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
以及跟中規司這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
13684.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
13686.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
會有涉及到學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
13686.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
13688.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
整體的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
13688.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
13690.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
是不是允許我們兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
13690.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
13692.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
不要說分號前分號後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
13692.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
13696.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
還有裡面有提到告知家長這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
13696.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
13698.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
也是一個很好的觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
13698.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
13700.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
但是怎麼運作因為這個文字寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
13700.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
13702.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
比較多而且是地方政府原來沒看過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
13702.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
13704.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
所以要再確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
13704.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
13706.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
那個吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
13709.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
13711.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
第18條因為有些部分要請衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
13711.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
13713.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
來幫忙看那我就也特別提 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
13713.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
13715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
是因為修正動議版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
13715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
13717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
裡面有提到食品良好衛生規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
13717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
13719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
準則那要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
13719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
13721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
衛福部來跟國教署兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
13721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
13723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
對齊一下那就是到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
13723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
13725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
按照這個準則需要做到哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
13725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
13727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
事情多做哪些事我覺得要具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
13727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
13729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
的來表列那像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
13729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
13731.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
比如說像是在我們有一些偏鄉小校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
13731.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
13733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
這個他們有沒有辦法來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
13733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
13735.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
然後比如說每週要檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
13735.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
13737.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
一次是按照GHP |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
13737.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
13739.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
的這個規範去做檢查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
13739.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
13741.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
這個國教署請務必跟衛福部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
13741.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
13743.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
你們要討論細節要把它再 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
13743.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
13745.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
更具體一點因為如果這個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
13745.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
13747.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
真的訂下去了這涉及到現場執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
13747.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
13749.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
13751.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
13753.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
我再提醒一下我們現場所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
13753.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
13755.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
官員我們所提的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
13755.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
13757.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
13757.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
13759.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
除了我剛剛所提到的分號後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
13759.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
13761.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
有講主管機關學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
13761.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
13763.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
辦理我下面還有下一段第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
13763.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
13765.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
所訂事件的涉及食品食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
13765.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
13767.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
還有學校供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
13767.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
13769.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
廠商食材供應廠商這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
13769.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
13771.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
配合追溯的部分不得規避 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
13771.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
13773.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
妨礙拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
13773.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
13775.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
供應廠商食材供應廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
13775.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
13777.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
這個部分的相關我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
13777.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
13779.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
有相關的法令我都有寫在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
13779.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
13781.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
比較完整文字比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
13781.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
13783.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
剛剛我只有提到前面這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
13783.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
13785.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
還沒有提到也跟你們稍微 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
13785.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
13787.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
說明一下請你們這個部分都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
13787.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
13789.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
拿回去再討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
13789.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
13791.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
讓他更加完善第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
13791.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
13793.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
我們就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
13796.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
13798.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
因為他們說文字要再更精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
13798.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
13800.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
但是這個方向你們可以認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
13802.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
13804.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
可以可以可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
13805.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
13807.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
我再用一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
13807.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
13809.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
因為我的提案是特別針對在第十六條裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
13809.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
13811.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
也就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
13811.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
13813.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
處公 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
13813.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
13815.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
你們剛剛做成的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
13815.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
13817.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
還是一樣先做保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
13817.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
13819.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
13819.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
13821.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
你關心處公的部分我們是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
13821.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
13823.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
處公營養師都是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
13823.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
13825.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
因為那個部分就是用字上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
13825.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
13827.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
大家還有一些細節的琢磨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
13827.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
13829.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
因為我認為說因為以往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
13829.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
13831.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
像我讀書的時候我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
13831.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
13833.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
六十七號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
13833.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
13835.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
現在一般的班級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
13835.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
13837.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
三十五個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
13837.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
13839.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
三十個這個左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
13839.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
13841.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
所以以往沒有很清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
13841.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
13843.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
所以我還是訂定在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
13843.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
13845.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
處公跟營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
13845.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
13847.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
我覺得這個對學校來講是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
13847.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
13849.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
對家長來講很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
13849.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
13851.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
所以我希望保留之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
13851.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
13853.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
各單位可能還要趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
13853.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
13855.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
去研議出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
13855.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
13857.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
這是我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
13857.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
13859.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
13871.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
13873.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
第十九條謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
13887.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
13889.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
好有委員舉手嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
13889.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
13891.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
沒有的話我們就讓教育部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
13891.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
13893.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
請針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
13893.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
13895.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
13895.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
13897.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
修正動議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
13897.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
13899.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
那我也是寫的是以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
13899.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
13901.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
教育部為基底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
13901.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
13903.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
那有增加幾個字喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
13903.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
13905.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
比如說第二段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
13905.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
13907.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
學校得隨時派員或委託代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
13907.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
13909.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
至工餐作業場所來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
13909.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
13911.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
那食品衛生管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
13911.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
13913.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
13913.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
13915.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
發現有衛生不良情形者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
13915.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
13917.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
應立即通報工餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
13917.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
13919.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
作業場所所在地的衛生主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
13919.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
13921.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
機關依食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
13921.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
13923.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
衛生管理法及相關規定處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
13923.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
13925.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
情節重大或有危害學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
13925.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
13927.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
學生健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
13927.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
13929.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
或工餐安全疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
13929.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
13931.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
應該通知該校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
13931.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
13933.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
主管機關喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
13933.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
13935.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
這個部分也是跟所有的委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
13935.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
13937.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
我們希望能夠訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
13937.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
13939.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
不定時且 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
13939.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
13941.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
可以去做抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
13941.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
13943.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
查驗的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
13943.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
13945.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
來隨時保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
13945.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
13947.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
當然也附有一些彈性喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
13947.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
13949.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
學校可以隨時派員或委託代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
13949.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
13951.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
這個部分來讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
13951.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
13953.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
臨時的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
13953.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
13955.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
機查能夠更加的順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
13955.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
13957.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
所以也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
13957.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
13959.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
為了這個學生的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
13959.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
13961.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
健康啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
13961.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
13963.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
這個部分來跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
13963.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
13965.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
那是不是請教育部直接回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
13969.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
13971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
謝謝昭偉,這裡有兩點不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
13971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
13973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
第一點是格式上的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
13973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
13975.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
原來是一項,昭偉這邊是兩項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
13975.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
13977.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
13977.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
13979.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
應該都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
13979.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13981.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
昭偉這邊是把規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
13981.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13983.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
這個句號之後切成第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
13983.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
接著第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
13985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
比較特別的地方是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
13987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13989.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
原來我們在整個的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13989.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13991.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
是按照現行法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13991.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13993.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
有一些他到場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13993.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
或是到工餐作業場所了解之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
13995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
他是跟當地所在地的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
13997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13999.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
衛生主管機關來按照相關法規處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13999.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
14001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
14001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
14003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
委員這邊會有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
14003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
14005.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
一些跟該校主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
14005.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
14007.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
就是學校主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
14007.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
14009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
就是教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
14009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
14011.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
所以這個後段增加了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
14011.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
14013.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
這個情節重大危害學生等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
14013.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
14015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
這個要跟教育局通報這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
14015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
14017.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
原則上昭偉可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
14017.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
14019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
認為這個不影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
14019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
14021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
前段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
14021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
14023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
他是增加通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
14023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
14025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
當情節重大的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
14025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
14027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
現在就是情節重大跟有危害學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
14027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
14029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
這一些之餘的定調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
14029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
14031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
會讓學校在相關執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
14031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
14033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
或是有關委辦團隊執行時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
14033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
14035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
如果他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
14035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
14037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
依這個情節重大與否 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
14037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
14039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
要判斷可能會衍生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
14039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
14041.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
相關判斷上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
14042.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
14044.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
做了跟沒做的後遺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
14044.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
14046.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
要就責的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
14046.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
14048.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
所以原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
14048.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
14050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
是整個收歸為整個衛生機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
14050.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
14052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
他本來就在處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
14052.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
14054.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
這樣的一個規範中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
14054.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
14056.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
所以更新委員是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
14056.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
14058.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
要考慮第二項的最末段 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
14058.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
14060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
這個有沒有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
14060.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
14062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
執行上會讓學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
14062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
14064.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
或是學校主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
14064.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
14066.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
就教育局這個體系上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
14066.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
14068.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
整體在運作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
14068.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
14070.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
會有多加的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
14070.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
14072.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
所以現在這麼容易去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
14072.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
14074.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
而且判斷上又會跟衛生單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
14074.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
14076.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
有一些整體要確認的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
14076.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
14078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
那這樣子增加的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
14078.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
14080.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
可能學校辦午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
14080.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
14082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
其實已經很用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
14082.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
14084.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
又還要做這一部分處理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
14084.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
14086.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
似乎是原來一般比較沒有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
14086.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
14088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
項目是不是統籌在衛生單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
14088.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
14090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
以上補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
14090.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
14092.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
好 那謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
14092.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
14094.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
國教署署長 我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
14094.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
14096.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
署長的說法沒有錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
14096.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
14098.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
他也是擔心學校沒有這個人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
14098.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
14100.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
但是我也擔心衛生單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
14100.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
14102.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
沒有這個人力 那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
14102.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
14104.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
那到底誰要去做稽查臨時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
14104.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
14106.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
的這個抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
14106.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
14108.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
那這個部分 我是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
14108.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
14110.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
學校因為也有簽訂合約的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
14110.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
14112.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
那他也有責任要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
14112.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
14114.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
所以他委託代表比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
14114.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
14116.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
家長會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
14116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
14118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
比如說限職的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
14118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
14120.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
這部分我覺得細節大家可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
14120.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
14122.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
但是為什麼會訂這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
14122.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
14124.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
就是希望說要有一個抽查機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
14124.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
14126.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
那當然我能夠體諒國教署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
14126.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
14128.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
真的 老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
14128.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
14130.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
工作很多了 所以不可以再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
14130.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
14132.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
委託老師再處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
14132.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
14134.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
所以我特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
14134.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
14136.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
開宗明義就寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
14136.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
14138.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
委託代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
14138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
14140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
所以家長會的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
14140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
14142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
或者是特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
14142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
14144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
有沒有什麼樣的一個機關可以去協助處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
14144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
14146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
的部分 也希望國教署能夠在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
14146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
14148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
這個文字上大家能夠把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
14148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
14150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
更加完善 但是目的不要改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
14150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
14152.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
14152.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
14154.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
張委剛剛所提我們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
14154.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
14156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
了解 我們現在同時也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
14156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
14158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
特別就是剛剛說明是注意到最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
14158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
14160.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
一句 是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
14160.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
14162.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
情節重大會有危害學生健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
14162.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
14164.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
公三治癒者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
14164.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
14166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
並應通知該校主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
14166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
14168.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
那這裡是以往所沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
14168.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
14170.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
這次多出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
14170.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
14172.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
那我們剛才建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
14172.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
14174.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
因為這個涉及到一些判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
14174.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
14176.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
其實本來這整體衛生單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
14176.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
14178.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
不管就這一次遊品的整體的查查通 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
14178.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
14180.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
或是公告 其實衛生單位都 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
14180.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
14182.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
一直以來都掌握在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
14182.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
14184.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
這個專業上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
14184.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
14186.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
目前增加這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
14186.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
14188.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
會延伸學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
14188.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
14190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
以及學校教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
14190.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
14192.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
要多所增加這個情節重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
14192.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
14194.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
等等的判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
14194.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
14196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
增加後續的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
14196.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
14198.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
原來這些事都是衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
14198.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
14200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
就一併處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
14200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
14202.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
至於前面整體學校派員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
14202.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
14204.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
或是委託代表這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
14204.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
14206.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
跟委員的文字是相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
14206.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
14208.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
現在我們比較擔心的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
14208.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
14210.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
最後那兩句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
14210.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
14212.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
是比較沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
14213.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
14215.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
14215.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
14217.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
怎麼認定這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
14217.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
14219.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
當然我覺得要更加完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
14219.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
14221.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
我還是這樣建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
14221.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
14223.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
教育部我也尊重你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
14223.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
14225.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
我當然不能直接這個文字就處理掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
14225.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
14227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
那我們是不是也保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
14227.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
14229.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
但是我拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
14229.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
14231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
我們的這個目標看起來許多在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
14231.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
14233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
大家也都可以認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
14233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
14235.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
但是能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
14234.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
14236.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
文字上大家再折衷一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
14236.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
14238.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
讓他有保留這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
14238.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
14240.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
彈性讓你們有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
14240.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
14242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
可以進入到這個部分去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
14242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
14244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
檢核這個部分我請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
14244.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
14246.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
待會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
14246.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
14248.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
這個也要麻煩我們衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
14248.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
14250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
食藥署這個部分你們給一點意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
14250.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
14252.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
那一併的來列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
14252.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
14254.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
好這部分我們就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
14255.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
14257.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
14258.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
14260.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
第二條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
14260.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
14262.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
我們台灣民眾黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
14262.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
14264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
14264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
14266.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
也看到有國民黨黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
14266.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
14268.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
14268.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
14270.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
等三十四個提案以及委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
14270.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
14272.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
羅提瑋柯志恩等人所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
14275.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
14277.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
第二十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
14279.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
14281.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
好我們請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
14280.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
14282.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
陳秀白委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
14285.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
14287.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
這個二十條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
14287.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
14289.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
對應到我自己的版本是第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
14289.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
14291.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
但我對教育部的這個建議條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
14291.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
14293.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
我是沒有什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
14293.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
14295.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
但我這邊要表達一下說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
14295.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
14297.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
相關的團體我這邊有接到他們的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
14297.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
14299.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
就是希望在校園食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
14299.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
14301.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
可以提供相關統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
14301.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
14303.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
14303.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
14305.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
例如營養食人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
14305.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
14307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
餐費食用食材統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
14307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
14309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
讓關心學校飲食狀況的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
14309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
14311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
可以看到目前學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
14311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
14313.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
飲食的這個整個的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
14313.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
14315.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
那之前裴委員在主辦的座談會上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
14315.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
14317.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
國教署有代表說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
14317.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
14319.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
在一百一十六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
14319.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
14321.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
平台升級之後可以上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
14321.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
14323.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
我想知道一下說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
14323.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
14325.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
目前這個一百一十六年平台升級之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
14325.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
14327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
上線的這個期程是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
14327.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
14329.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
還是說是可以提早的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
14329.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
14331.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
14331.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
14333.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
好 還有沒有委員要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
14333.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
14335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
好 國際委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
14335.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
14337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
好 布板的第二十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
14337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
14339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
對應到我的版本是第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
14339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
14341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
就是強制在公開的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
14341.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
14343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
登載這個食材跟供應商的一些資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
14343.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
14345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
那我也傳達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
14345.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
14347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
這個許多家長的擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
14347.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
14349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
我想這個部分的這個行政作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
14349.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
14351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
其實對家長來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
14351.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
14353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
其實是非常重要的一個透明的交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
14353.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
14355.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
那透過一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
14355.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
14357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
科技的管理讓所有人能夠及時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
14357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
14359.98 |
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把這個午餐的一個內容跟過敏原 |
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14359.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
14361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
從源頭來確保這個食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
14361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
14363.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
的一個可靠的來源 |
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14363.98 |
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14365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
那這個部分也是對應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
14365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
14367.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
目前大家希望的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
14367.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
14369.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
能夠有一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
14369.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
14371.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
資訊跟這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
14371.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
14373.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
14373.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
14375.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
那就針對以上來做表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
14375.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
14377.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
意見 那這個布板的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
14377.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
14379.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
條文內容其實我沒有太大意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
14379.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
14381.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
14385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
14387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
來 吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
14387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
14389.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
這個修正動議比布板的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
14389.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
14391.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
是多了滿多項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
14391.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
14393.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
那我這樣看起來有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
14393.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
14395.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
應該是已經在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
14395.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
14397.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
所以是等會可以請國教署說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
14397.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
14399.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
哪些 其實現行就已經在辦理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
14399.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
14401.02 |
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那如果已經現行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
14401.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
14403.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
就已經在辦理的還有沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
14403.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
14405.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
一定要寫到這個法條裡面來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
14405.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
14407.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
我覺得可以討論 那剛剛前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
14407.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
14409.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
有幾點保留的 是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
14409.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
14411.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
如果國教署 如果教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
14411.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
14413.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
如果你們有建議修改的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
14413.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
14415.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
要不要就是先提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
14415.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
14417.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
等一下回來比較好討論呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
14417.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
14419.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
14419.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
14421.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
好 那教育部是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
14421.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
14423.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
蔡市長委員請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
14425.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
14427.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
14427.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
14429.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
第20條 這個教育部的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
14429.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
14431.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
版本 第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
14431.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
14433.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
第一款 那我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
14433.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
14435.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
再把 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
14435.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
14437.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
再細緻化一點 學校在辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
14437.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
14439.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
學校的工商 應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
14439.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
14441.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
從中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
14441.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
14443.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
指定的一個公開資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
14443.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
14445.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
系統平台來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
14445.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
14447.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
登載當日工商所使用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
14447.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
14449.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
一個 全部的一個食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
14449.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
14451.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
跟原料之品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
14451.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
14453.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
那供應商呢 及其他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
14453.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
14455.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
中央主管機關公告的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
14455.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
14457.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
資訊呢 屬加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
14457.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
14459.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
食品的包裝食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
14459.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
14461.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
後調味料者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
14461.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
14463.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
並應該呢 要登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
14463.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
14465.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
在商品及名稱的一個製造商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
14465.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
14467.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
既有呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
14467.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
14469.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
驗證或素顏標章者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
14469.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
14471.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
應該呢 要都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
14471.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
14473.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
14473.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
14475.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
該標章的一個資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
14475.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
14477.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
那在這個平台呢 事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
14477.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
14479.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
有很多家長是非常肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
14479.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
14481.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
但是呢 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
14481.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
14483.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
14483.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
14485.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
更細緻的把一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
14485.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
14487.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
比較重要的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
14487.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
14489.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
品項能夠再把它加進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
14489.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
14491.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
讓這一個平台能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
14491.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
14493.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
更完善 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
14496.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
14498.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
好 那請教育部回應好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
14499.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
14501.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
蘇彬瑋也要講話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
14501.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
14503.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
你用眼神在跟我舉手喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
14503.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
14505.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
來 請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
14505.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
14507.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
好 因為我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
14507.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
14509.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
教育部在辦理學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
14509.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
14511.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
我站到 事實上現在都有像 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
14511.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
14513.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
包括三張一度 還有每天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
14513.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
14515.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
他們的工藝的食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
14515.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
14517.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
其實都有放上去啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
14517.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
14519.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
那更重要的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
14519.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
14521.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
也是因為有這樣的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
14521.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
14523.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
現在 剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
14523.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
14525.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
就一個多月前爆發的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
14525.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
14527.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
石油 毒油的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
14527.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
14529.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
那個危機的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
14529.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
14531.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
我們看到那個次長他也很快的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
14531.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
14533.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
就已經都掌握了他們現在的下游的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
14533.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
14535.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
所以我想這件事情是非常好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
14535.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
14537.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
那當然也是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
14537.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
14539.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
這個制度能夠再繼續的維持下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
14539.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
14541.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
那只是說我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
14541.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
14543.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
因為我們民眾黨跟國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
14543.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
14545.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
有提前在修正的動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
14545.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
14547.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
是不是在這個內容上面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
14547.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
14549.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
我們在檢視之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
14549.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
14551.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
再可能就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
14551.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
14553.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
他是非常完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
14553.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
14555.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
精簡為要 他算是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
14555.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
14557.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
營養午餐的一個專把的基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
14557.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
14559.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
能夠再把它更精簡的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
14559.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
14561.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
把它落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
14561.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
14563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
我想 可以達到他最大的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
14563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
14565.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
就是我今天這樣發言的一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
14565.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
14567.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
14568.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
14570.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
14569.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
14571.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
安門委員有其他建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
14571.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
14573.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
沒有我們請教一部回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
14573.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
14575.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
剛剛劉委員講到精簡為要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
14575.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
14577.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
所以其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
14577.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
14579.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
我們的目前第20條的寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
14579.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
14581.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
就是大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
14581.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
14583.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
能做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
14582.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
14584.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
然後在相關應做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
14584.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
14586.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
我們都全部包納在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
14586.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
14588.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
用比較精簡的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
14588.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
14590.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
就處理我們要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
14590.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
14592.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
但是有一些很操作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
14592.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
14594.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
我們建議 其實今天這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
14594.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
14596.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
要檢視的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
14596.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
14598.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
一時之間 我舉個例子 我要分享跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
14598.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
14600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
也不容許這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
14600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
14602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
像我們現在跟衛福部相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
14602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
14604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
Tipson |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
14604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
14606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
或是有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
14606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
14608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
飛登不可 飛察不可等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
14608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
14610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
飛機不可 其實都有在相連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
14610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
14612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
那也有一些爬蟲的機制在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
14612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
14614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
但是因為這些細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
14614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
14616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
大概我覺得在這裡說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
14616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
14618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
就會多餘 因為他已經在操作中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
14618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
14620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
就如剛才我伯爺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
14620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
14622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
伯爺所提到 其實有一些已經在運作中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
14622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
14624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
那我就不在這邊特別講細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
14624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
14626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
但有一些如果真要規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
14626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
14628.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
其實我們可以放到紙法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
14628.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
14630.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
包含事情細則這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
14630.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
14632.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
那母法我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
14632.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
14634.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
盡量把大的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
14634.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
14636.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
讓委員會這邊同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
14636.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
14638.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
那有一些細節 容我們在操作面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
14638.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
14640.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
跟委辦團隊 衛福部等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
14640.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
14642.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
甚至中央的食安辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
14642.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
14644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
以及地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
14644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
14646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
大家來做一個專業的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
14646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
14648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
這是第一大點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
14648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
14650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
就目前我們看到條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
14650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
14652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
原來我們寫兩項 目前看起來才超過五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
14652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
14654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
看是不是可以朝這樣的一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
14654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
14656.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
14657.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
14659.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
剛剛有幾個像陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
14659.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
14661.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
都有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
14662.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
14664.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
有聽到我們做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
14664.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
14666.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
我們的食材通路平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
14666.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
14668.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
會做一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
14667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
14669.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
公布的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
14669.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
14671.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
像營養師人數參費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
14671.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
14673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
現在115學年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
14673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
14675.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
因為有新的一個局面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
14675.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
14677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
各縣市提供了免費午餐之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
14677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
14679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
有很多的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
14679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
14681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
我們會予以統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
14681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
14683.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
然後公告這些訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
14683.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
14685.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
讓全民一起來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
14685.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
14687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
這個的確會在我們那裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
14687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
14689.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
會在115學年來處理完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
14688.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
14690.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
至於郭委員感謝來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
14690.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
14692.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
我們也會照郭委員平時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
14692.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
14694.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
一直監督的面向來落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
14694.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
14696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
剛剛輝宇委員有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
14696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
14698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
前面如果有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
14698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
14700.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
不要這麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
14700.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
14702.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
可以先明確的免得忘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
14702.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
14704.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
可以做一點比較明確的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
14704.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
14706.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
像剛剛有一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
14706.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
14708.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
剛剛有跟召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
14710 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
14712 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
報告最後一句 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
14712 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
14714 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
14715.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
14717.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
第19條最後一句 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
14717.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
14719.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
是不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
14718.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
14720.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
就把那個主詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
14721.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
14723.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
原來第二項的主詞是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
14723.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
14725.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
這個衝擊學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
14725.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
14727.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
他也沒辦法那個判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
14727.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
14729.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
是不是事權統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
14729.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
14731.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
就衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
14730.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
14732.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
他來救衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
14732.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
14734.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
救情節重大什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
14734.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
14736.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
他可以通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
14735.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
14737.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
他的該校的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
14737.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
14739.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
就是教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
14739.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
14741.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
就衛生主管機關統籌事權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
14741.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
14743.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
發現比較嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
14743.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
14745.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
要趕快橫向跟教育局講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
14745.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
14747.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
那個事權也統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
14747.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
14749.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
然後要達到召委的這個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
14749.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
14751.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
也有人做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
14751.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
14753.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
也不至於讓學校無法判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
14753.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
14755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
沒關係那你又回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
14755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
14757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
提到19條了嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
14757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
14759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
14759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
14761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
郭委員在議程上說要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
14761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
14763.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
沒有我尊重嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
14763.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
14765.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
那要不要回到19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
14765.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
14767.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
讓他提出文字給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
14767.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
14769.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
就如說前面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
14769.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
14771.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
如果你們有建議文字是不是先出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
14771.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
14773.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
我們等一下回過頭來的時候比較好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
14773.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
14775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
那你們先寫好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
14775.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
14777.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
14778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
14780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
好那第20條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
14780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
14782.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
現場委員有沒有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
14783.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
14785.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
有沒有什麼建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
14788.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
14790.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
第20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
14794.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
14796.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
14801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
14803.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
14802.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
14804.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
我個人是覺得跟我的版本差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
14806.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
14808.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
所以我是希望說能夠保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
14811.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
14813.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
村長委員你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
14813.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
14815.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
村長委員麻煩你們拿麥克風謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
14817.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
14819.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
同意保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
14819.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
14821.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
14821.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
14823.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
也請大家的同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
14823.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
14825.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
因為我們各自的見解建議不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
14825.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
14827.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
我個人同意保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
14827.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
14829.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
我也要問其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
14829.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
14831.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
那請中醫部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
14831.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
14833.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
你們也提建議修改的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
14833.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
14835.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
你們有建議修改文字嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
14835.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
14837.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
如果你們有建議修改文字就來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
14837.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
14839.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
14839.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
14841.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
好謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
14841.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
14843.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
目前因為這個委員所提的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
14843.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
14845.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
20條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
14845.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
14847.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
因為有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
14847.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
14849.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
要去判斷或是跟委員說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
14849.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
14851.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
其實已經有在做的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
14851.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
14853.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
然後有一些要細細的檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
14853.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
14855.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
包含像加工品 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
14855.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
14857.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
或是調味料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
14857.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
14859.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
這一些可能都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
14859.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
14861.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
有一些整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
14861.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
14863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
地方政府的包含有些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
14863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
14865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
工作人員要登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
14865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
14867.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
可能要細細的跟委員報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
14867.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
14869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
六班的學校的人或很多學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
14869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
14871.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
他做得到這一些嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
14871.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
14873.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
這一些可能理想上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
14873.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
14875.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
我們希望怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
14875.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
14877.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
但是食物工作者可能我們也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
14877.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
14879.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
尊重他們工作的辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
14879.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
14881.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
這個我先保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
14881.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
14883.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
教育部今天寫的出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
14883.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
14885.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
就今天啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
14885.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
14887.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
不行的話我們就到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
14887.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
14889.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
院會協商的時候我還是會以尊重的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
14889.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
14891.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
因為我們也不敢說搶過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
14891.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
14893.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
到時候地方也會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
14893.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
14895.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
無法實行的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
14895.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
14897.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
好20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
14898.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
14900.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
14900.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
14902.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
14904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
14906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
學校辦我的版本是學校辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
14906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
14908.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
學校午餐之收支應設專戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
14908.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
14910.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
專管專用其收支保管運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
14910.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
14912.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
其適用之會計法的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
14912.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
14914.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
規定辦理學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
14914.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
14916.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
應於每學期結束後兩個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
14916.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
14918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
將學校午餐收支明細公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
14918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
14920.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
在學校網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
14920.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
14922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
跟主管機關指定的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
14922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
14924.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
跟系統這部分不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
14925.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
14927.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
教育部可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
14927.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
14929.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
這個很單純 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
14932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
14934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
14933.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
14935.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
郭新聞人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
14935.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
14937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
好這21條就是對應到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
14937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
14940.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
我剛剛其實有在前面提到第14條的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
14940.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
14943.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
就是學校辦理公餐應成立專戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
14943.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
14945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
其收支帳戶處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
14945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
14947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
依會計法及相關規定辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
14947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
14949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
收支明細應至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
14949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
14951.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
於每學期結束後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
14951.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
14953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
兩個月內公告之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
14953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
14955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
那就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
14955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
14957.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
這個部分剛剛其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
14957.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
14959.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
這個署長有特別提到是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
14959.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
14961.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
14961.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
14963.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
好我們配一位人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
14963.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
14965.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
這一條我看起來教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
14965.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
14967.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
跟這個修正動議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
14967.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
14969.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
版本內容是差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
14969.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
14971.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
因為我沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
14972.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
14974.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
14976.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
14978.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
陳委員我們簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
14978.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
14980.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
簡單回應就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
14980.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
14982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
我同意剛剛我們召委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
14982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
14984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
提了把這個21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
14984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
14986.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
在細 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
14986.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
14988.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
細項再用兩項來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
14988.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
14990.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
14990.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
14992.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
同意我們那個羅召委的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
14992.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
14994.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
14994.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
14996.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
那教育部你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
14996.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
14998.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
還是要照你的版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
14998.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
15000.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
原來我們的最後那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
15000.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
15002.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
網際網路是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
15002.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
15004.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
15004.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
15006.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
他去融合可以是學校的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
15006.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
15008.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
也可以是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
15008.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
15010.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
指定的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
15010.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
15012.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
總之他要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
15012.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
15014.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
那現在委員就是直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
15014.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
15016.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
把他寫出來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
15016.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
15018.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
他可能是放在自己的網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
15018.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
15020.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
也可能是放在主管機關的網站這樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
15020.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
15022.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
那我們原來是整理自各位委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
15022.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
15024.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
15024.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
15026.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
那我們微調一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
15026.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
15028.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
就是你的基底網際網路四個字刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
15029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
15031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
然後改成公告之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
15031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
15033.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
主管機關指定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
15033.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
15035.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
網站或系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
15035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
15037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
15037.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
15039.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
15039.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
15041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
還是直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
15041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
15043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
委員你講我的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
15043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
15045.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
你的版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
15044.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
15046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
先刪掉網際網路四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
15046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
15048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
但是你這個會少掉學校自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
15048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
15050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
公開到他的網站就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
15050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
15052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
那學校網際網路刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
15052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
15054.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
然後我們打上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
15054.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
15058.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
學校網站或主管機關指定之網站或系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
15059.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
15061.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
15062.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
15064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
15064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
15066.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
我們再唸一次喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
15066.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
15068.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
公開於學校網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
15069.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
15071.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
沒有其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
15072.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
15074.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
前面比較像他的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
15074.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
15076.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
因為我沒有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
15076.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
15078.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
正合正合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
15078.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
15080.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
我們依教育部的基底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
15080.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
15082.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
公開於學校網站或 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
15084.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
15086.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
主管機關指定之網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
15088.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
15090.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
或系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
15090.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
15092.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
或系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
15094.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
15096.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
好我們照這樣子的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
15096.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
15098.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
15100.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
15105.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
第21條學校1第8條第一項規定之方式辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
15105.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
15108.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
因成立專務其收支帳戶處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
15108.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
15110.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
依會計法及相關規定辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
15110.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
15118.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
收支明細因至少每學期結束後兩個月公開於學校網站或主管機關指定之網站或系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
15120.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
15122.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
好修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
15126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
15128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
好第22條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
15128.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
15130.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
15130.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
15132.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
15131.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
15133.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
15133.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
15135.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
15135.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
15137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
15137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
15139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
15139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
15141.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
15141.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
15143.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
15143.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
15145.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
15145.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
15147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
15147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
15149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
15149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
15151.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
15151.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
15153.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
15153.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
15155.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
15155.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
15157.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
15157.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
15159.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
台灣民眾黨團體案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
15137.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
15139.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
那這個部分我也要跟所有的委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
15140.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
15144.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
本條我建立的這樣子的一個情況有稍微增加一些啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
15144.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
15146.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
那是因為希望我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
15146.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
15148.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
我們不要只有處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
15148.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
15150.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
處罰當然一定沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
15150.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
15152.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
重罰都沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
15152.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
15154.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
但是我們也希望有相關的機校獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
15154.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
15156.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
或者是責任認定的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
15156.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
15158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
所以這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
15158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
15160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
我想我也在提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
15160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
15162.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
有關於主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
15162.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
15164.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
15164.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
15166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
15166.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
15168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
教育食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
15168.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
15170.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
機校優良之學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
15170.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
15172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
機關機構團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
15172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
15176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
廠商或人員得以獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
15176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
15180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
學校供應廠商食材供應商或受託工商業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
15180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
15182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
違反本條例或依本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
15182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
15184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
授權訂定知法規命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
15184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
15186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
至法規者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
15188.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
15190.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
主管機關因事勤儉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
15190.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
15192.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
違規勤儉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
15192.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
15194.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
命其限期改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
15194.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
15196.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
或採取其他必要措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
15196.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
15198.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
限期未改善勤儉重大者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
15198.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
15200.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
其相關法令及區域處理署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
15200.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
15202.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
第十七條第五項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
15202.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
15204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
或第六項所訂之情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
15204.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
15206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
依各該規定來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
15206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
15208.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
主管機關或學校認定的學校人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
15208.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
15210.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
辦理本條例四項責任時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
15210.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
15212.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
因其職責範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
15212.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
15214.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
斟酌審酌其 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
15214.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
15216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
已禁法定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
15216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
15218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
已禁法定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
15218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
15220.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
職務應有之 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
15220.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
15222.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
注意義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
15222.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
15224.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
違反義務之情節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
15224.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
15226.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
故意或過失可歸則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
15226.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
15228.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
15227.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
15229.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
及因果關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
15229.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
15231.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
學校人員一 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
15231.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
15233.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
以依規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
15233.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
15235.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
旅行通報清查督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
15235.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
15237.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
查核或其他因進義務者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
15237.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
15239.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
不得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
15239.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
15241.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
僅因食品衛生安全事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
15241.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
15243.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
或其他不利結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
15243.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
15245.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
發生或因廠商供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
15245.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
15247.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
資訊系統或其他非 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
15248.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
15250.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
其所得控制之事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
15250.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
15252.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
禁與規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
15252.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
15254.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
這部分我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
15254.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
15256.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
文字上很清楚就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
15256.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
15258.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
我們當然也要審慎的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
15258.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
15260.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
機關也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
15260.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
15262.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
機構也好 廠商也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
15262.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
15264.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
他相關有沒有因進之職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
15264.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
15266.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
那如果他因進之職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
15266.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
15268.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
那基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
15268.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
15270.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
我們也應該給予 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
15270.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
15272.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
一部分的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
15272.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
15274.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
15274.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
15276.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
那也希望說他審酌有沒有法定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
15276.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
15278.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
或職務上的注意義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
15278.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
15280.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
如果有違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
15280.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
15282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
那當然我們還是要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
15282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
15284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
探究這個因果關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
15284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
15286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
那也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
15286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
15288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
可以獲得大家支持 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
15288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
15290.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
有沒有其他委員有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
15298.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
15300.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
我想詢問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
15300.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
15302.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
15302.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
15304.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
20 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
15304.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
15306.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
現在是21條 22條 |
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15306.69 |
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15308.69 |
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他就是 |
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15308.69 |
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15310.69 |
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主管機關或者是業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
15313.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
15315.25 |
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那你優良者當然是給他鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
15315.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
15317.25 |
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那不優良者就是 |
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15317.25 |
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15319.25 |
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給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
15319.25 |
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15321.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
15321.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
15323.25 |
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限期改善或是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
15323.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
15325.25 |
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真的不行那有相關法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
15325.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
15327.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
的刑罰或者是食品衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
15327.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
15329.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
的那些內容就會基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
15329.25 |
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15331.25 |
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就會去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
15332.47 |
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15334.47 |
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那如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
15334.47 |
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15336.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
這個專法等於說是在營養武餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
15336.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
15338.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
下面的 本來就有很多相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
15338.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
15340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
執法 那是不是有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
15340.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
15342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
要請就像有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
15342.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
15344.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
到底要罰多少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
15344.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
15346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
內容的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
15346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
15348.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
因為本來相關法律就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
15348.47 |
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15350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
有了 是不是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
15350.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
15352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
要這樣子的去把它那麼具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
15352.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
15354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
迷的呈現出來 是不是合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
15354.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
15356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
是不是就依照有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
15356.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
15358.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
目前在保留 尤其在食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
15358.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
15360.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
15360.47 |
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15362.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
跟契約裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
15362.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
15364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
廠商你約的這個部分就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
15364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
15366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
呈現出來 我提供這個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
15366.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
15368.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
或是說請國家署這邊就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
15368.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
15370.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
也就相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
15370.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
15372.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
這些事情在處理的時候 目前的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
15372.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
15374.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
法規 雖然沒有母法 但是已經都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
15374.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
15376.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
在實施的部分 是不是可以做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
15376.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
15378.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
說明 那我們大家知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
15378.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
15380.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
目前的實施現狀是不是不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
15380.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
15382.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
還是就真的要必須要在我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
15382.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
15384.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
部專法當中把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
15385.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
15387.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
把它立下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
15390.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
15392.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
陳秀寶委員在吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
15393.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
15395.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
謝謝主席 22條在我自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
15395.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
15397.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
版本裡面 對應是21條 其實我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
15397.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
15399.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
條文跟教育部條文是大同小異 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
15399.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
15401.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
我也可以支持教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
15401.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
15403.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
條文 只是我在想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
15403.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
15405.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
我們辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
15405.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
15407.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
成績比 成校 成校比較優異的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
15407.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
15409.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
學校 教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
15409.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
15411.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
是不是可以考慮收集成校教家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
15411.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
15413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
的案例來提供給各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
15413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
15415.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
學校作為辦理學校飲食的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
15415.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
15417.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
依循參考 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
15418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
15420.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
其實教育部寫的也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
15420.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
15422.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
也是對的啦 沒有錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
15422.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
15424.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
15424.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
15426.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
比較文字比較少啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
15426.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
15428.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
我是覺得不夠完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
15428.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
15430.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
我自己個人意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
15430.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
15432.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
沒關係啦 但是還是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
15432.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
15434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
爭取大家的同意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
15434.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
15436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
但如果真的不行的話是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
15436.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
15438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
保留大家修改文字 像剛剛這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
15438.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
15440.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
整合一下意見 吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
15440.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
15442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
這一條就是教育部版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
15442.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
15444.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
跟修正動議版本 其實我看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
15444.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
15446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
精神是一樣的 精神是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
15446.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
15448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
一致的 就是對辦的好 我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
15448.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
15450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
給獎勵 然後也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
15450.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
15452.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
相關的這些機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
15452.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
15454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
不過因為就是修正動議的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
15454.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
15456.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
裡面的文字 有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
15456.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
15458.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
看起來那個主體是學校呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
15458.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
15460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
還是可能會不會落到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
15460.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
15462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
成半人 我還是會建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
15462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
15464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
這一條是不是以教育部的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
15464.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
15466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
為主 因為我們應該是主體是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
15466.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
15468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
學校 我們去規範學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
15468.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
15470.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
然後呢 就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
15470.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
15472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
也是保障學校去做我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
15472.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
15474.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
他們應該要去做的事 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
15474.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
15476.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
以二十二條教育部文字來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
15476.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
15478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
就是以學校 如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
15478.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
15480.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
辦理優異的學校 我們給他獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
15480.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
15482.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
那辦理不好的 要去溢儲的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
15482.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
15484.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
溢儲也是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
15484.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
15486.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
我是建議以學校為主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
15486.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
15488.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
應該是會比較恰當 因為精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
15488.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
15490.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
看起來是一致的 所以在文字上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
15490.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
15492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
是不是還是以教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
15492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
15494.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
為主 那倘若 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
15494.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
15496.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
覺得說有不足的地方 看哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
15496.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
15498.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
再把它修改加進來 這是我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
15503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
15505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
好 請教育部回應好不好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
15507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
15509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
謝謝趙斐 這些各位委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
15509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
15511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
那基本上這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
15511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
15513.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
跟地方政府學校有所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
15513.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
15515.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
洽商之後 也綜合委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
15515.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
15517.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
版本 用這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
15517.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
15519.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
母法的文字跟高度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
15519.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
15521.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
比較能夠容納各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
15521.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
15523.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
情勢 那現在委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
15523.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
15525.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
提的這個版本 那可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
15525.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
15527.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
到第二項之前跟原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
15527.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
15529.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
我們的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
15529.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
15531.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
比較一致 到第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
15531.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
15533.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
之後就講到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
15533.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
15535.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
就講到人怎麼樣怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
15535.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
15537.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
這一般而言 其實學校在辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
15537.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
15539.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
這個工作都很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
15539.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
15541.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
我們覺得學校都 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
15541.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
15543.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
在這個架構內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
15543.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
15545.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
完成很多事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
15545.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
15547.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
已經很辛苦 那我們在母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
15547.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
15549.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
特別就人的部分要指明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
15549.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
15551.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
怎麼樣怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
15551.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
15553.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
一般在母法上 然後也看學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
15553.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
15555.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
我們歷來的溝通上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
15555.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
15557.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
比較沒有那麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
15557.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
15559.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
我們也肯定他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
15559.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
15561.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
付出 比較不這樣子去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
15561.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
15563.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
訂定這個母法 那至於有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
15564.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
15566.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
精神上 我有注意到委員的最後一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
15566.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
15568.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
其實是想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
15568.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
15570.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
有一些不能夠去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
15570.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
15572.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
規則 那些辦的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
15572.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
15574.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
這一類可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
15574.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
15576.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
我們一些行政的指導去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
15576.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
15578.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
可是寫在母法上 他就會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
15578.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
15580.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
講這件事 他就會顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
15580.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
15582.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
另外一件事 這有時候會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
15582.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
15584.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
對我們這些工作的夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
15584.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
15586.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
不好 那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
15586.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
15588.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
學校要依法來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
15588.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
15590.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
他是一個學校為主體 再來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
15590.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
15592.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
我們會覺得 就學校部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
15592.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
15594.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
我們來一起跟他互動會比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
15594.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
15596.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
那以上就22條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
15596.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
15598.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
整個立法的精神跟中間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
15598.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
15600.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
我們怎麼做出這兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
15600.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
15602.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
項 以及相關的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
15602.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
15604.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
請召委再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
15604.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
15606.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
幫我們做指導 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
15606.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
15608.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
我覺得你講的也沒有錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
15608.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
15610.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
那是不是這個部分 如果真的這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
15612.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
15614.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
15613.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
15615.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
可以 但是不要放在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
15615.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
15617.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
你把立法說明寫在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
15618 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
15620 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
大家可以討論了 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
15620 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
15622 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
那我先保留啦 待會你盡量調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
15623.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
15625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
那也勞煩我們後勤部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
15625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
15627.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
我們所有的同仁 盡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
15627.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
15629.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
調一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
15630.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
15632.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
好 這條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
15640.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
15642.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
好 第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
15642.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
15644.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
林建琪等21人提案25條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
15644.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
15646.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
等14個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
15646.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
15648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
以及委員柯志恩等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
15648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
15650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
羅廷瑋所提出的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
15650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
15652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
那我的版本就基本上是建立在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
15652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
15654.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
教育部的這個基礎上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
15654.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
15656.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
但是我有再增加第二項 同法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
15656.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
15658.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
第23條之一規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
15658.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
15660.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
於前項範圍內 至本條例第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
15660.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
15662.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
施行起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
15662.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
15664.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
不再適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
15664.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
15666.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
本條例施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
15666.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
15668.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
依學校衛生法及其 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
15668.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
15670.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
相關法定規定之法規命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
15670.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
15672.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
行政規則或 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
15672.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
15674.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
所謂之處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
15674.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
15676.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
企劃之契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
15676.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
15678.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
於不抵觸本條例之範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
15678.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
15680.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
繼續有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
15680.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
15682.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
15682.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
15684.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
再來中央主管機關因於本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
15684.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
15686.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
公佈後一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
15686.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
15688.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
完成相關法規命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
15688.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
15690.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
行政規則之檢討 修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
15690.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
15692.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
或廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
15692.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
15694.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
那這個部分我也是希望定一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
15695.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
15697.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
要求啦 希望說能夠在一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
15697.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
15699.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
趕緊將 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
15699.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
15701.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
施行細則來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
15701.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
15703.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
請問委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
15705.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
15707.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
好 各位委員沒有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
15707.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
15709.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
那我們請主管機關回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
15710.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
15712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
來 你要不要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
15715.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
15717.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
15717.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
15719.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
15719.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
15721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
我們既然在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
15721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
15723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
武參法這部分已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
15723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
15725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
一個規定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
15725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
15727.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
而且我們也去對過他跟學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
15727.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
15729.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
15729.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
15731.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
每一條項的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
15731.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
15733.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
都已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
15733.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
15735.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
對應了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
15735.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
15737.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
然後另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
15737.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
15739.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
來講就是我們學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
15739.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
15741.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
這個共產法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
15741.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
15743.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
立法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
15743.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
15745.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
的相關執法我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
15745.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
15747.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
授權的一些法規我們都在半年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
15747.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
15749.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
必須要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
15749.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
15751.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
所以好像沒有必要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
15751.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
15753.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
針對第三項的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
15756.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
15758.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
我尊重教育部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
15758.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
15760.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
但是我跟委員特別報告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
15760.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
15762.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
因為第14條是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
15764.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
15766.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
所以目前還沒有依照原本你們的14條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
15766.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
15768.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
如果依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
15768.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
15770.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
教育部的14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
15770.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
15772.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
那基本上這裡的23條也要依照教育部的23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
15772.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
15774.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
可是目前14條保留的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
15774.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
15776.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
我們不能夠推斷就一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
15776.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
15778.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
都用你們的版本都OK啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
15780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
15782.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
可能會有些微差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
15782.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
15784.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
15784.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
15786.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
剛剛委員沒有意見嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
15787.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
15789.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
都還在討論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
15789.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
15791.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
剛剛委員都沒有意見啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
15791.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
15793.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
我也不敢定案就一定要啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
15793.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
15795.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
所以我們先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
15795.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
15797.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
那回過頭來再看的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
15797.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
15799.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
再處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
15801.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
15803.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
好第24條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
15803.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
15805.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
台灣民眾黨第 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
15805.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
15807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
22條等40個提案以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
15807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
15809.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
委員羅廷瑋柯志恩等人所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
15809.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
15811.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
修正動議我們看到第24條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
15812.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
15814.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
24條基本上就是照 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
15816.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
15818.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
教育部定制啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
15818.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
15820.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
15819.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
15821.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
沒有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
15821.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
15823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
我們就照修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
15823.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
15825.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
照教育部版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
15825.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
15827.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
好第25條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
15829.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
15831.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
15831.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
15833.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
23條等40個提案以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
15833.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
15835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
委員羅廷瑋柯志恩等人所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
15835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
15837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
15837 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
15839 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
25條的部分呢我們是希望本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
15839 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
15841 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
自公佈後6個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
15841 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
15843 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
實行啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
15842.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
15844.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
那第14條第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
15844.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
15846.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
自公佈後一年實行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
15846.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
15848.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
15847.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
15849.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
教育部的版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
15849.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
15851.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
本條例除第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
15851.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
15853.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
自公佈後一年實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
15855.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
15857.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
一年實行外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
15857.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
15859.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
自公佈日時實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
15859.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
15861.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
除第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
15861.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
15863.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
自公佈後一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
15863.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
15865.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
實行外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
15865.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
15867.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
自公佈日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
15867.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
15869.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
15869.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
15871.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
有點落孔令喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
15871.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
15873.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
那委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
15873.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
15875.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
這個教育部版是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
15875.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
15877.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
除了第14條以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
15877.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
15879.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
其他都是公佈後就實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
15879.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
15881.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
那修正動議是說除了14、15要等一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
15881.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
15883.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
其他呢還要等6個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
15883.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
15885.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
那其實一般應該都是說行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
15885.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
15887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
會比較慢委員提案會比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
15887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
15889.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
但這個倒過來其實行政部門是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
15889.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
15891.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
我除了14條以後其他我公佈就要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
15891.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
15893.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
實行了那這個我們當然尊重委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
15893.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
15895.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
但是等一下請聽一下教育部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
15895.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
15897.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
那應該是因為你現在14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
15897.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
15899.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
跟這些是連動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
15899.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
15901.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
所以剛剛23其實不是我們沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
15901.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
15903.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
所以我們是要聽教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
15903.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
15905.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
目前的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
15905.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
15907.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
因為看起來本來你們版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
15907.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
15909.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
會比較快開始上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
15909.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
15911.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
15911.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
15913.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
那不是說不相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
15913.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
15915.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
教育部啦因為他的公佈日 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
15915.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
15917.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
實行他也沒講公佈日什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
15917.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
15919.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
他也可以講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
15919.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
15921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
3年或5年後我們之前消防法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
15921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
15923.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
就有這個尷尬時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
15923.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
15925.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
尷尬不是誰對誰錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
15925.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
15927.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
尷尬所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
15927.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
15929.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
所以我才會設了一個6個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
15929.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
15931.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
最給你的準備期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
15931.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
15933.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
可是你這個還是公佈後6個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
15933.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
15935.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
這樣反而更慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
15935.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
15937.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
應該是公佈後就失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
15937.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
15939.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
沒關係沒關係那所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
15940.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
15942.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
你待會講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
15941.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
15943.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
這一條你就直接我們來看文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
15943.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
15945.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
來把它處理掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
15946.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
15948.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
我是希望你能夠給我更明確的時間你什麼時候要公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
15950.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
15952.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
15952.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
15954.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
我們不教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
15955.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
15957.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
比較有一個安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
15958.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
15962.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
沒有這個法律公佈這個是有規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
15962.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
15964.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
對但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
15964.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
15966.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
有依照那個公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
15966.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
15968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
公佈後3天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
15968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
15970.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
總統公佈後3天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
15971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
15973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
所以你們基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
15973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
15975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
就接受只要總統公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
15975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
15977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
你們就開始實行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
15978.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
15980.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
因為有把那個特定條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
15980.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
15982.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
特定條文有訂定那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
15982.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
15984.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
施行的日子之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
15984.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
15986.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
其他就是公佈後就施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
15986.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
15988.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
好沒關係有就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
15988.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
15990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
那我們是不是就照教育部的修正文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
15990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
15992.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
製作過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
15995.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
15997.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
只要你們有可以更快我們都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
15997.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
15999.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
15999.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
16001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
署長署長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
16002.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
16004.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
好就照總統公佈就開始施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
16004.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
16006.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
16007.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
16011.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
好第25條本條例除第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
16011.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
16013.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
自公佈後一年施行外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
16013.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
16015.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
自公佈日施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
16017.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
16019.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
16018.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
16020.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
16019.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
16021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
16021.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
16023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
照按修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
16023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
16025.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
照教育部文字喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
16025.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
16027.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
那請大家回過頭看剛才暫時保留的第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
16027.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
16029.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
教育部是否已經將委員關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
16029.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
16031.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
限職營養師事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
16031.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
16033.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
納入立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
16033.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
16035.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
請提出謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
16044.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
16046.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
16045.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
16047.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
16047.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
16049.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
來麻煩你是不是要將立法說明說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
16049.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
16051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
然後把它打到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
16055.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
16057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
16056.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
16058.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
好秀出來一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
16058.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
16060.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
來我們休息三分鐘讓你秀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
16060.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
16062.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
上個廁所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
16062.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
16064.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
立法說明給委員看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
16066.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
16068.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
還是要印給大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
16069.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
16071.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
16071.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
16073.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
好放一幕好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
16073.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
16075.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
那我們等他執行一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
16077.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
16079.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
有哪些是要保留的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
16895.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
16897.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
您是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
16897.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
16899.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
16899.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
16901.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
好我們現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
16902.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
16904.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
不好意思因為我們先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
16904.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
16906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
11條嘛因為剛剛我有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
16906.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
16908.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
有這個食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
16908.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
16910.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
的官員因為中聯有紙的案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
16910.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
16912.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
他們要另外去經濟部開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
16912.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
16914.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
所以他們對於我們第 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
16914.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
16916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
18 19條有一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
16916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
16918.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
文字的部分我讓他先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
16918.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
16920.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
發言讓他先離席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
16920.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
16922.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
因為中聯有紙那個案也蠻重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
16922.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
16924.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
那待會會讓他先可以離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
16924.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
16926.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
請麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
16927.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
16929.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
好針對第18 19的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
16929.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
16931.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
16957.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
16959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
有危害公參衛生安全之虞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
16959.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
16961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
那要通知這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
16961.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
16963.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
之外還要通知各校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
16963.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
16965.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
所在的衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
16965.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
16967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
那在這裡跟主席還有各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
16967.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
16969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
報告一下因為這個在我們食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
16969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
16971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
的第七條的第五項裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
16971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
16973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
本來就有這一條食品業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
16973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
16975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
在發試驗產品有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
16975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
16977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
危害衛生安全之虞時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
16977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
16979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
要主動停止製造加工販賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
16979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
16981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
辦理回收而且通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
16981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
16983.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
16983.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
16985.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
直轄市縣市的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
16985.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
16987.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
所以這個部分在我們食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
16987.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
16989.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
裡面已經有很明確的規定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
16989.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
16991.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
所以在這一個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
16991.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
16993.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
有關於通知學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
16993.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
16995.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
所在的衛生主管機關這裡是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
16995.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
16997.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
不用再重複再寫因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
16997.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
16999.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
食材供應商就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
16999.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
17001.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
食安法所規定的食品業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
17001.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
17003.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
那再來後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
17003.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
17005.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
這裡有關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
17005.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
17007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
相關法令要辦理回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
17007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
17009.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
採取必要措施依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
17009.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
17011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
辦理封存者呢由 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
17011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
17013.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
衛生主管機關辦理這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
17013.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
17015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
也在我們食安法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
17015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
17017.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
第41條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
17017.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
17019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
的第 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
17019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
17021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
1項第4款裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
17021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
17023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
對於違反我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
17023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
17025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
一些衛生標準或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
17025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
17027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
有毒有害人體健康呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
17027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
17029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
17029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
17031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
17031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
17033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
得命食品業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
17033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
17035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
暫停作業及販賣並 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
17035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
17037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
封存產品所以對於產品的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
17037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
17039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
封存這個也在我們食安法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
17039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
17041.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
有很明確的規定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
17041.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
17043.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
所以是在建議在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
17043.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
17045.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
也就是可以有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
17045.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
17047.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
就不用在這裡再重複的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
17047.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
17049.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
再寫一次好這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
17049.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
17051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
有關於第18條以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
17051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
17053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
17053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
17055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
在第19條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
17055.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
17057.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
那有關於學校就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
17057.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
17059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
發現這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
17059.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
17061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
餐盒作業場所有衛生不良情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
17061.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
17063.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
要通知公善作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
17063.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
17065.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
場所的這個衛生主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
17065.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
17067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
機關依食安法來規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
17067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
17069.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
來處理這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
17069.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
17071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
也是原來教育部就有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
17071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
17073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
版本這個我們沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
17073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
17075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
是那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
17075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
17077.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
剛才這個有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
17077.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
17079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
於如果是情節重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
17079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
17081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
危害學生健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
17081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
17083.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
要通知教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
17083.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
17085.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
剛才國教組這邊是表示希望是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
17085.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
17087.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
由地方衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
17087.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
17089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
通知這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
17089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
17091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
學校當地的教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
17091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
17093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
我想這個部分可能就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
17093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
17095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
要去跟地方要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
17095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
17097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
比較良好的溝通之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
17097.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
17099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
再來施行以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
17099.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
17101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
回憶一下我覺得第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
17101.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
17103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
尊重國教組的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
17103.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
17105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
那由衛生主管機關來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
17105.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
17107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
然後通報學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
17107.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
17109.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
讓學校來作為主要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
17109.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
17111.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
派員稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
17111.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
17113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
壓力也大到底派誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
17113.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
17115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
那怎麼執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
17115.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
17117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
施行細則也很壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
17117.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
17119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
很大所以就依照衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
17119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
17121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
的相關SOP這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
17121.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
17123.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
我們也尊重但是我們訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
17123.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
17125.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
就是一定要有人可以做抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
17126.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
17128.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
有相關主管機關負責抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
17128.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
17130.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
19條這個部分我也回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
17130.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
17132.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
謝謝我們食藥署的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
17132.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
17134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
那待會您就3點可以先離席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
17134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
17136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
去這個經濟部那邊處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
17136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
17138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
中年遊子相關的議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
17144.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
17146.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
好那待會19條部分我們再回過頭再說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
17146.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
17148.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
先回到11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
17148.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
17150.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
好那不好意思那醫事人員請我們要補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
17150.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
17152.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
委員吳思瑤為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
17154.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
17156.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
哦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
17155.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
17157.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
為客出席本院第11屆第5會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
17157.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
17159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
起本會第22次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
17159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
17161.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
及第23次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
17161.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
17163.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
特予請假列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
17165.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
17167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
好回到第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
17167.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
17169.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
來我們繼續討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
17175.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
17177.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
17177.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
17179.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
好請下一步說明一下你的立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
17179.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
17181.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
17183.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
17185.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
17185.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
17187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
那我們請看一下教育部版本的母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
17187.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
17189.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
那母法文字裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
17189.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
17191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
有一點是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
17191.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
17193.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
能夠架接在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
17193.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
17195.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
那一點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
17195.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
17197.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
大家請看文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
17197.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
17199.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
裡面已經有寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
17200.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
17202.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
好生日子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
17202.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
17204.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
17204.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
17206.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
那架接過來我們就是為了考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
17206.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
17208.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
17208.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
17210.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
這就是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
17210.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
17212.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
有三位委員要求的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
17212.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
17214.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
好以上補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
17218.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
17220.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
其實我也很大問題為什麼就已經寫在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
17220.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
17222.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
又不願意寫在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
17222.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
17224.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
17224.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
17226.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
剛剛有跟召委報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
17226.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
17228.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
因為這裡面會涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
17228.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
17230.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
營養的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
17230.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
17232.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
他如果現場直接寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
17232.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
17234.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
縣職學校營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
17234.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
17236.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
我們每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
17236.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
17238.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
三種光山形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
17238.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
17240.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
他一個人沒有辦法代表其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
17240.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
17242.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
那就三個人都代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
17242.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
17244.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
如果這樣的話光營養師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
17244.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
17246.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
代表可能有三席以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
17246.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
17248.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
那我們這整個還有好多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
17248.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
17250.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
像剛剛中央的衛福農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
17250.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
17252.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
環境採購機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
17252.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
17254.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
所以他的席次就變多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
17254.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
17256.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
所以他的情況變比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
17256.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
17258.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
就變成因為這個三席四席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
17258.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
17260.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
那整個會變成三倍五倍的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
17260.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
17262.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
二三十個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
17262.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
17264.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
來開這個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
17264.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
17266.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
那如果他們三個出席然後他們只能夠有一票呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
17266.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
17268.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
三個人來決定他們一票呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
17268.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
17270.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
一般開這個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
17270.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
17272.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
不會用投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
17272.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
17274.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
這個是諮詢會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
17274.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
17276.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
諮詢會多一點席次有差嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
17276.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
17278.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
所以他可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
17278.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
17280.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
用應列席的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
17280.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
17282.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
如果用出席的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
17282.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
17284.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
當時候裡面有些相關的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
17284.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
17286.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
都會跟我們也要爭取他的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
17286.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
17288.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
人數額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].start |
17288.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
17290.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].text |
其實這一些我們比較需要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
17290.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
17292.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
一個營養師能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
17292.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
17294.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
統整各種工商型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
17294.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
17296.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
剛才很多的反應主要集中在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
17296.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
17298.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
營養師來說明的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].start |
17298.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
17300.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
能夠把所有全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
17300.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
17302.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
可能各樣的工商型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
17302.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
17304.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
能夠提供意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
17304.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
17306.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
不管讓中央或地方在做這個統整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
17306.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
17308.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
政策決定的時候比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
17308.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
17310.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
有一個完整意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
17310.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
17312.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
謝謝建英 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
17312.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
17314.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
好有沒有委員要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
17317.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
17319.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
好國際委員沒見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
17319.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
17321.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
那吳佩儀委員沒見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
17321.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
17323.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
村長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
17327.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
17329.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
我沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
17331.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
17333.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
修法委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
17333.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
17335.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
17334.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
17336.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
吳釗偉有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
17337 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
17339 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
就依教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
17339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
17341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
17341.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
17343.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
不好意思因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
17343.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
17345.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
柯志文委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
17345.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
17347.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
立法說明他會擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
17346.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
17348.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
所以我建議保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
17348.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
17350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
要不要請他來現場開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
17350.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
17352.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
他在高鐵上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
17352.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
17354.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
不要啦不要這樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
17354.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
17356.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
雲端開會法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
17360.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
17362.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
那我們先保留謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
17364.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
17366.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
好第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
17368.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
17370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
請立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
17370.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
17372.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
謝謝釗偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
17372.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
17374.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
有類似的意思我唸一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
17374.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
17376.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
就是為考量符合現場的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
17376.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
17378.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
專家學者已納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
17378.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
17380.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
現職學校營養師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
17382.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
17384.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
所以你也是把他寫在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
17384.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
17386.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
不願意寫在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
17386.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
17388.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
就剛剛跟釗偉有報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
17388.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
17390.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
他也理解跟柯委員有報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
17390.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
17392.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
他能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
17392.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
17394.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
整體的考慮是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
17394.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
17396.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
他各種公參形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
17396.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
17398.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
通常我們有時候請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
17398.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
17400.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
他都很客氣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
17400.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
17402.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
其他的公參形態他不一定這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
17402.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
17404.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
所以釗偉知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
17404.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
17406.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
17406.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
17408.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
專家的形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
17408.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
17410.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
確認之後帶來整體的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
17410.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
17412.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
但是一定是要找來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
17412.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
17414.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
現場的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
17415.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
17417.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
這種經驗的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
17416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
17418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
只是這個條文上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
17418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
17420.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
如果變成明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
17421.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
17423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
那他會有一點失之彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
17423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
17425.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
17426.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
17428.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
17429.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
17433.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
我們現在在講第12條的立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
17434.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
17436.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
這個好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
17436.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
17438.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
17438.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
17440.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
梅裕瑋請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
17468.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
17470.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
17470.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
17472.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
因為他沒有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
17472.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
17474.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
所以我們沒辦法討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
17474.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
17476.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
其實我們在講初期大家是有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
17476.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
17478.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
是不是教育部可以趕快聯繫一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
17478.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
17480.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
討論提案委員沒有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
17480.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
17482.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
其實我們這邊是有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
17482.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
17484.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
如果確實有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
17484.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
17486.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
那我是建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
17486.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
17488.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
保留在委員會等這個提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
17488.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
17490.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
下一次初期的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
17490.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
17492.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
我們可以再一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
17490.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
17492.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
好非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
17492.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
17494.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
感謝委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
17494.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
17496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
也跟委員特別報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
17496.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
17498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
通過的條文有共識的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
17498.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
17500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
也是可以修協商的收入有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
17500.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
17502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
也是可以修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
17502.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
17504.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
這補充報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
17505.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
17507.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
17509.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
17511.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
因為基本上教育部的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
17512.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
17514.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
看起來有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
17514.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
17516.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
有自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
17516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
17518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
17519.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
17521.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
科委員這邊的疑慮也是有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
17523.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
17525.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
那是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
17529.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
17531.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
還有委員其他有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
17534.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
17536.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
17536.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
17538.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
17538.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
17540.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
17540.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
17542.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
17542.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
17544.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
17544.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
17546.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
17546.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
17548.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
17548.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
17550.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
17550.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
17552.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
17552.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
17554.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
17554.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
17556.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
17556.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
17558.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
17558.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
17560.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
17560.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
17562.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
17534.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
17536.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
17536.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
17538.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
17538.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
17540.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
17540.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
17542.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
17542.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
17544.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
17544.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
17546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
17546.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
17548.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
17548.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
17550.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
17550.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
17552.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
17552.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
17554.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
17554.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
17556.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
17556.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
17558.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
17558.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
17560.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
17560.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
17562.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
17562.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
17564.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
有意見的請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
17538.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
17540.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
這現場是有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
17548.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
17550.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
或者就是說因為我們現場大家是有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
17550.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
17552.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
大家都沒意見我們是不是希望通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
17552.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
17554.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
提安委員有意見他之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
17554.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
17556.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
在協商的時候他可以再提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
17556.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
17558.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
就像我剛剛說的啦通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
17558.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
17560.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
17559.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
17561.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
也是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
17561.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
17563.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
去處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
17563.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
17565.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
那我們就先通過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
17566.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
17568.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
17569 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
17571 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
17571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
17573.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
村村委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
17582.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
17584.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
如果大家都沒有達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
17584.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
17586.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
可以保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
17587.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
17589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
喔好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
17589.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
17591.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
17591.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
17593.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
那每個人都有自己的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
17593.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
17595.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
我也不宜直接做出決定了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
17595.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
17597.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
我們現場委員不是剛才都有共識了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
17597.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
17599.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
那沒有他表達有意義了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
17601.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
17603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
他不是表達有意義他是以為我們沒共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
17603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
17605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
他剛才也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
17605.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
17607.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
依照教育部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
17607.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
17609.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
那村村委員你可以再回應一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
17609.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
17611.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
你覺得是誤會大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
17611.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
17613.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
有共識還是你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
17613.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
17615.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
有一些差別大家可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
17615.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
17617.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
再討論那我們就先 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
17617.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
17619.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
對不起喔因為剛剛我剛好在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
17619.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
17621.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
跟我的助理聊天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
17621.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
17623.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
不是聊天是討論討論啦不是聊天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
17623.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
17625.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
在討論所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
17625.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
17627.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
你剛剛在問我的時候我也不大清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
17627.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
17629.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
在問我什麼啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
17629.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
17631.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
我才 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
17631.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
17633.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
然後我剛剛注意看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
17633.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
17635.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
那這個就是我們民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
17635.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
17637.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
有提出的那個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
17637.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
17639.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
那個條文啦我們民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
17639.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
17641.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
也有提出啦所以我要跟大家說抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
17641.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
17643.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
因為剛剛在討論沒有注意聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
17643.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
17645.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
所以當然是我們自己提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
17645.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
17647.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
我們當然也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
17647.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
17649.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
同意說要跟各位抱歉不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
17649.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
17651.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
我不守信用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
17651.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
17653.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
那你現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
17653.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
17655.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
我現在保留啊因為大家沒有共識嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
17655.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
17657.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
那怎麼保留啊不是同意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
17657.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
17659.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
還是說保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
17659.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
17661.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
17660.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
17662.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
Nah |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
17662.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
17664.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
我們沒有共識啊那就先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
17664.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
17666.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
繼續往下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
17671.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
17673.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
我們回到18條因為食藥署有給意見了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
17674.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
17676.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
18條19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
17676.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
17678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
18條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
17679.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
17681.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
看起來好像就食藥署也是認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
17683.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
17685.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
國家署的建議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
17686.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
17688.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
這就逃不掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
17700.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
17702.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
好我們將這個相關修正的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
17702.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
17704.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
那我自己的版本修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
17704.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
17706.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
那可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
17706.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
17708.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
剛剛食藥署有提到這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
17708.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
17710.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
因為食安法有規範了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
17713.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
17715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
17715.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
17717.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
我們就依照教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
17724.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
17726.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
喔可以請醫師人員幫我們唸嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
17726.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
17728.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
17728.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
17730.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
請醫師人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
17734.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
17736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
17764.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
17766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
17766.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
17768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
17768.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
17770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
17770.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
17772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
17772.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
17774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
17774.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
17776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
17776.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
17778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
17778.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
17780.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
17780.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
17782.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
17782.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
17784.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
17784.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
17786.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
17786.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
17788.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
17788.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
17790.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
17790.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
17792.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
我們就先來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
17779.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
17781.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
農業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
17781.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
17783.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
抽驗學校食品與源頭端 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
17783.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
17785.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
農產品之衛生安全及品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
17785.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
17787.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
請事項之管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
17787.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
17789.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
相關人員之衛生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
17789.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
17791.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
訓練進修與 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
17791.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
17793.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
研習督導項目方法稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
17793.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
17795.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
及其他相關事項之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
17795.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
17797.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
辦法由中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
17797.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
17799.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
匯商中央衛生福利及農業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
17799.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
17801.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
17801.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
17803.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
中央主管機關應定其 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
17803.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
17805.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
會同地方主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
17805.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
17807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
稽查學校午餐辦理情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
17807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
17809.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
並派員輔導訪視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
17809.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
17811.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
及稽查項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
17811.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
17813.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
校數執行方式及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
17813.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
17815.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
相關事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
17815.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
17817.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
由中央主管機關匯商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
17817.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
17819.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
中央主管機關訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
17820.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
17822.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
17823.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
17825.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
17827 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
17829 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
我們請食尚署再講一次好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
17829.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
17831.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
剛剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
17832.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
17834.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
好我們教育部回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
17840.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
17842.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
剛剛如果用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
17843.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
17845.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
教育部的文字我們大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
17845.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
17847.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
就是其實是中和各委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
17847.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
17849.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
剛剛食藥署他有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
17849.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
17851.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
兩個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
17851.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
17853.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
第一個意見是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
17852.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
17854.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
分號後因為已經有食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
17854.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
17856.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
所以具體的講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
17856.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
17858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
分號後不建議訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
17859.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
17861.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
這第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
17861.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
17863.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
第二點分號前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
17862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
17864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
其實原來的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
17864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
17866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
被委員拆開了兩個通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
17866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
17870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
現在就講你們的修正文字就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
17870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
17872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
對啊所以我們沒意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
17872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
17874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
但是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
17874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
17876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
招委又問食藥署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
17876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
17878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
17878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
17880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
沒有啦我們現在只是在等時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
17882.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
17884.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
教書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
17885.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
17887.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
你再說一次好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
17887.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
17889.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
教育部的修正文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
17890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
17892.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
教育部的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
17892.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
17894.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
教育部的修正文字食藥署有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
17895.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
17897.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
沒有嘛現在這個18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
17898.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
17900.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
食藥署沒有意見就 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
17900.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
17902.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
剛剛有說明過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
17902.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
17904.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
不好意思因為剩兩分鐘要放你走 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
17904.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
17906.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
你就直接告訴我18條你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
17906.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
17908.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
OK啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
17908.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
17910.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
教育部的版本就是送進來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
17910.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
17912.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
教育部的版本我們本來就沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].start |
17912.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].end |
17914.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
沒有意見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].start |
17914.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].end |
17916.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
我私底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].start |
17916.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
17918.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].text |
我檯面上問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
17918.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
17920.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].text |
剛剛我提的這個版本你說食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].start |
17920.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].end |
17922.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
都有規範了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].start |
17922.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].end |
17924.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].text |
對不管是自主通報或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].start |
17924.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
17926.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
下架回收封存 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].start |
17926.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
17928.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].start |
17928.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].end |
17930.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
那我們是不是就依教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].start |
17930.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].end |
17932.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].start |
17932.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].end |
17934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].text |
其他委員有意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].start |
17936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].end |
17938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].start |
17939.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].end |
17941.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].text |
不要再動時間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].start |
17941.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].end |
17943.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].text |
沒意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].start |
17943.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].end |
17945.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].text |
好那我要宣告有委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].start |
17945.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].end |
17947.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].text |
有的話要舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].start |
17948.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].end |
17950.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].text |
好請遵守委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].start |
17954.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].end |
17956.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].text |
因為這個剛好是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].start |
17956.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].end |
17958.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].text |
有關於校園的一個食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
17958.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].end |
17960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].text |
的問題然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].start |
17960.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].end |
17962.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].text |
又因為最近這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].start |
17962.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].end |
17964.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].text |
獨有的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].start |
17964.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].end |
17966.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].text |
一個問題讓家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].start |
17966.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].end |
17968.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].text |
都非常的不安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
17968.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].end |
17970.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].text |
所以我是覺得是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].start |
17970.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
17972.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].start |
17972.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
17974.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].start |
17974.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].end |
17976.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].start |
17976.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].end |
17978.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].text |
委員有信心一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].start |
17978.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].end |
17980.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].text |
保留還是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].start |
17979.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].end |
17981.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].text |
是不是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].start |
17981.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].end |
17983.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].start |
17983.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].end |
17985.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].start |
17985.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].end |
17987.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
三點了喔我先讓食藥署先離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].start |
17988.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].end |
17990.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].start |
17990.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
17992.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].text |
我來跟所有的委員溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
17993.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
17995.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
我們休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].start |
17994.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].end |
17996.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].text |
我來跟委員溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
17996.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].end |
17998.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].text |
因為配一委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
17998.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].end |
18000.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
真的非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].start |
18000.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
18002.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
非常有理性在誠意探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].start |
18002.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].end |
18004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
這件事情那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
18004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].end |
18006.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].text |
一群委員希望說我能夠儘量能夠以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
18006.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
18008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
教育部就以教育部的文字好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
18008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
18010.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
給我一點時間好嗎我來討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
18010.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
18012.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].text |
我們休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].start |
18051.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
18053.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
我們休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
18053.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].end |
18055.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
我們休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
19331.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
19333.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].text |
還是要拜託議事組可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
19333.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
19335.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
幫忙聯絡召委喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].start |
19335.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].end |
19337.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].text |
因為剛剛還休息但是沒有宣告時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].start |
19337.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].end |
19339.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].text |
我們全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].start |
19339.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].end |
19341.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].text |
包括教育部的部長署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].start |
19341.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
19343.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].text |
然後全部的人在這邊已經空等了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
19343.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
19345.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
超過二十分鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].start |
19346.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].end |
19348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].text |
那麼現在是因為國民黨的委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].start |
19348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].end |
19350.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].text |
所以召委在等時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].start |
19351.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].end |
19353.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].text |
等他們回到院區來才要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].start |
19353.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].end |
19355.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].text |
要來強行表決嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].start |
19355.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].end |
19357.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].text |
我們現在什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].start |
19357.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].end |
19359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].text |
整間的人在這邊空號時間呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].start |
19361.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].end |
19363.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].text |
可不可以拜託議事組的人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].start |
19363.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].end |
19365.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].text |
因為已經十分鐘前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].start |
19365.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
19367.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
召委就傳話說在廁所了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].start |
19368.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].end |
19370.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].text |
這個應該在廁所的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].start |
19370.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].end |
19372.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].text |
很少見會這麼久才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].start |
19372.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].end |
19374.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].text |
我們已經在這邊空等二十分鐘喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].start |
19374.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].end |
19376.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].text |
拜託大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].start |
19407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].end |
19409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].text |
好 老人回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].start |
19409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].end |
19411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].text |
這樣有望開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].start |
19411.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].end |
19413.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].text |
我們已經在這邊空等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].start |
20008.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].end |
20010.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].text |
現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].start |
20010.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
20012.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].text |
不好意思 討論的過程總是比較繁複的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].start |
20014.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
20016.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].text |
那我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].start |
20015.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].end |
20017.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].text |
第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].start |
20017.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
20019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
我們剛剛還在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].start |
20019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
20021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
因為食藥署有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].start |
20021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].end |
20023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].text |
也尊重教育部的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].start |
20023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
20025.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
我們是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].start |
20025.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
20027.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].text |
依教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
20027.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].end |
20029.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
20030.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
20032.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
20031.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].end |
20033.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
第十八條 修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].start |
20033.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
20035.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
依教育部建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].start |
20036.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
20038.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
好 接下來我們要處理第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].start |
20039.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].end |
20041.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
我們再請國教署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].start |
20041.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
20043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
署長是不是再麻煩您 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].start |
20043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
20045.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
針對您剛剛的提案 我覺得說有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].start |
20045.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
20047.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
那是不是您再跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].start |
20047.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
20049.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
分享一下 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
20056.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
20058.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].start |
20058.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
20060.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].text |
是在召委的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].start |
20060.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
20062.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
條文下 我們讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].start |
20062.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
20064.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
更完備他怎麼操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].start |
20064.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
20066.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
那我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].start |
20066.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
20068.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
最後這邊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].start |
20069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
20071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
包抄位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].start |
20071.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
20073.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
抱歉喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].start |
20073.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].end |
20075.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
那我就直接 因為我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].start |
20075.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].end |
20077.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
如果文字上要呈現的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].start |
20077.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
20079.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
麻煩就好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].start |
20079.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
20081.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
先呈現了 您請看一下 大概就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].start |
20081.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
20083.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
上面在加該衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].start |
20083.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].end |
20085.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
任 清潔重大等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].start |
20085.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
20087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
所以有一個機關可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].start |
20087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
20089.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
原來就是他的權責在工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].start |
20089.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
20091.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].text |
只要橫向讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].start |
20091.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].end |
20093.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].text |
教育局知道 大概是這樣 |
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20093.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
20095.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].start |
20096.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
20098.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].start |
20098.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].end |
20100.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].text |
原本委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].start |
20102.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].end |
20104.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].text |
這個應該衛福部也說他們對教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].start |
20104.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].end |
20106.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].text |
修正文字沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].start |
20106.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].end |
20108.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].text |
所以我這條我同意沒意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].start |
20110.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].end |
20112.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].start |
20111.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].end |
20113.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].text |
請醫事人員宣讀一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].start |
20114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].end |
20116.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].text |
第十集我打好 因為文字比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].start |
20117.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].end |
20119.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].text |
多一點喔 要麻煩一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].start |
20119.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].end |
20121.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].text |
第十九條學校採外訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].start |
20122.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].end |
20124.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].text |
合同參者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].start |
20124.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].end |
20126.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].text |
廠商應符合食品安全管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].start |
20126.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].end |
20128.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].text |
系統準則之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].start |
20128.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].end |
20130.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].text |
學校的隨時派員或委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].start |
20130.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].end |
20132.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].text |
代表到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].start |
20132.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].end |
20134.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].text |
到場了解食品衛生管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].start |
20134.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].end |
20136.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].text |
作業發現有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].start |
20138.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].end |
20140.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].text |
發現有衛生不良情形者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].start |
20140.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].end |
20142.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].text |
應立即通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].start |
20145.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].end |
20147.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].text |
所在地主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].start |
20147.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].end |
20151.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].text |
依食品安全衛生管理法及相關規定辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].start |
20151.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].end |
20153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].text |
該衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].start |
20153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].end |
20158.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].text |
任情節重大有危害學生健康或公差安全之虞者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].start |
20158.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].end |
20161.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].text |
應通知該校主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].start |
20161.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].end |
20163.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].start |
20166.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].end |
20168.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].start |
20167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].end |
20169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].text |
我是原本是提學校啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].start |
20169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].end |
20171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].text |
那可以派代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].start |
20172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].end |
20174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].text |
來做集合啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].start |
20174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].end |
20176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].text |
那您的建議就是交給衛生主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].start |
20178.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].end |
20180.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].text |
原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].start |
20180.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].end |
20182.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].text |
如果沒有加這個紅字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].start |
20182.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].end |
20184.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].text |
會變成是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].start |
20184.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].end |
20186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].text |
要處理情節重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].start |
20186.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].end |
20188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].text |
等等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].start |
20188.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].end |
20190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].text |
要判定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].start |
20190.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].end |
20192.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].text |
我們這個只是就前面的句子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].start |
20192.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].end |
20194.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].text |
本來地方衛生主管機關就已經處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].start |
20194.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].end |
20196.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].text |
他處理完 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].start |
20196.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].end |
20198.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].text |
其中他碰到了情節重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].start |
20198.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].end |
20200.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].text |
要趕快橫向通知教育局這樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].start |
20200.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].end |
20202.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].text |
所以是接著您的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].start |
20202.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].end |
20204.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].text |
去完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].start |
20204.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].end |
20206.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].text |
誰來做那件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].start |
20206.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].end |
20208.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].text |
把那個認定是順著原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].start |
20209.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].end |
20211.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].text |
衛生局不用讓學校重新認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].start |
20211.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].end |
20213.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].text |
去判斷這重不重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].start |
20224.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].end |
20226.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].text |
有把這個文字補上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].start |
20226.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].end |
20228.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].text |
那就一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].start |
20228.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].end |
20230.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].text |
我對不起我還是要問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
20230.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
20232.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
20233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
20235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
配委員你看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
20235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
20237.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].text |
我這個剛剛休息討論完是不是很順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].start |
20237.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
20239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
所以討論是需要等待的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].start |
20239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
20241.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
20241.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
20243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
那相信這樣子就順暢許多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].start |
20243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
20245.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
沒有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
20245.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
20247.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
那我們是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
20247.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
20249.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
教育部修正文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].start |
20249.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
20251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
照教育部修正文字通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
20256.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
20258.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
好我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].start |
20257.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
20259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
不好意思我先看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].start |
20264.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
20266.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
不是我的不是我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].start |
20266.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
20268.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
嚇我一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].start |
20278.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
20280.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].start |
20280.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
20282.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].start |
20281.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
20283.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
那不好意思因為我們要回過頭來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].start |
20283.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
20285.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].start |
20285.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
20287.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].start |
20287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
20289.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
本案114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].start |
20289.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
20291.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
11月27日召開第四會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].start |
20291.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
20293.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
教育文化委員會第八次全體會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].start |
20293.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
20295.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
我們的第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].start |
20296.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
20298.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
暫保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].start |
20298.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
20300.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
所以我們要回到第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].start |
20303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
20305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
好第一條台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].start |
20305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
20307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
第一條等40個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].start |
20309.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
20311.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
來我們請所有的同仁回到第一條謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].start |
20317.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
20319.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
好請提案委員舉手發言謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].start |
20333.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].end |
20335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
好那個因為我們第一條台灣民眾黨的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].start |
20335.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
20337.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
是不是請民眾黨先發言一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].start |
20340.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
20342.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
委員慢慢來我等你喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].start |
20357.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
20359.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].start |
20359.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
20361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].text |
第一條呢台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].start |
20361.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].end |
20363.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].text |
提出是為了要提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].start |
20363.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].end |
20365.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
學校工餐品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].start |
20365.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
20367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
建議飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].start |
20367.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
20369.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
教育與刺激學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
20369.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].end |
20371.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].text |
健康飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
20371.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].end |
20373.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
以及學生健全身心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].start |
20373.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
20375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
發展特制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].start |
20375.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
20377.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
本法有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
20377.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
20379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
學校工餐以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].start |
20379.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
20381.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
飲食教育相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
20381.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
20383.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
事項優先續用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
20383.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
20385.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
本法之規定本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
20385.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
20387.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
20386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].end |
20388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
規定者適用其 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
20388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
20390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
其他相關法律之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
20390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
20392.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
這是本黨所提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
20397.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
20399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
20398.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
20400.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
還有委員要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
20404.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
20406.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
好沒有委員要發言喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
20406.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
20408.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
那我先講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
20408.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
20410.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
第一條呢我們這邊的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
20411.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
20413.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
20414.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
20416.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
因為沒有修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
20416.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
20418.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
20418.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
20420.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
那我用我的版本講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
20420.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
20422.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
20441.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
20443.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
20442.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
20444.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
基本上有一些跟教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
20444.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
20446.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
有相似啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
20446.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
20448.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
但是我還是希望能夠微調一些文字就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
20448.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
20450.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
20450.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
20452.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
健全校園公餐食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
20452.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
20454.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
營養管理的資訊公開機制啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
20454.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
20456.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
當然這邊又提到我們在剛剛在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
20456.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
20458.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
飲食教育跟食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
20458.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
20460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
20460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
20462.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
那也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
20462.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
20464.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
提供健康營養安全衛生飲食之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
20464.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
20466.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
身心健全發展尊重自然環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
20466.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
20468.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
的教育目的這個是我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
20468.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
20470.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
20469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
20471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
20473.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
20475.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
我的立法目的是提升學校午餐的品質之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
20475.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
20477.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
那也希望平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
20477.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
20479.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
城鄉差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
20479.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
20481.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
健全公餐的食安治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
20481.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
20483.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
營養管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
20483.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
20485.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
資訊公開的核心喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
20485.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
20487.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
並將整個飲食教育食農教育納入到健康飲食的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
20487.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
20489.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
一個制度裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
20489.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
20491.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
那我也支持說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
20491.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
20493.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
基本上我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
20493.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
20495.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
有一些學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
20495.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
20497.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
第二三條相關學校供應午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
20497.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
20499.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
的膳食的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
20499.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
20501.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
營養午餐健康的飲食教育的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
20501.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
20503.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
但食農教育法有關的食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
20503.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
20505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
其實在地產銷的一個永續飲食的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
20505.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
20507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
政策方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
20507.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
20509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
以及食品安全衛生管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
20509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
20511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
對食品安全管理的風險基本的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
20511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
20513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
但是本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
20513.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
20515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
作為營養午餐以及飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
20515.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
20517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
20517.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
20519.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
事項的優先適用的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
20519.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
20521.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
可供後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
20521.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
20523.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
公餐人力採購食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
20523.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
20525.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
財務以及資訊公開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
20525.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
20527.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
規範來做一個具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
20527.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
20529.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
整體法源喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
20529.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
20531.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
所以審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
20531.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
20533.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
我也是參考了這個現行規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
20533.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
20535.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
分散於這個學校衛生法第二十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
20535.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
20537.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
至第二十三條之三 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
20537.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
20539.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
學校安全衛生管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
20539.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
20541.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
以及政府採購法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
20541.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
20543.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
勞動法制來訂定這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
20543.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
20545.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
專法的一個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
20545.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
20547.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
來整個統整公餐飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].start |
20547.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].end |
20549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
食安人力採購財務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].start |
20549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
20551.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
以及資訊公開責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].start |
20551.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].end |
20553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
那也跟大家特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
20553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
20555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
日本的這個營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
20555.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
20557.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
跟韓國的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
20557.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
20559.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
那也是專法處理學校公餐的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
20559.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
20561.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
營養衛生行政處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
20561.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
20563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
所以我是希望說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].start |
20563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
20565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
營養午餐專法它有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
20565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
20567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
跨制度的整合需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
20567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
20569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
當然不要說都是分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
20569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
20571.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
這是我的一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
20572.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
20574.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
下一步回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
20576.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
20578.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
這個版本有非常多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
20578.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
20580.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
有一些想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
20580.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
20582.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
所以當時因為各委員的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
20582.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
20584.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
說明之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
20584.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
20586.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
請我們去整理一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
20586.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
20588.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
那我們把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
20589.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
20591.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
20591.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
20593.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
你們有一個建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
20593.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
20595.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
20595.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
20597.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
因為那時候有授權我們再去多聽一下委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
20597.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
20599.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
那委員的心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
20599.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
20601.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
都讓我們知道之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
20601.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
20603.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
我們就修出這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
20603.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
20605.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
並且增加第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
20605.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
20607.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
是趙委員的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
20607.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
20609.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
這樣看可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
20622.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
20624.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
20623.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
20625.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
20637.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
20639.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
20639.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
20641.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
一起委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
20644.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
20646.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
那委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
20649.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
20651.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
20651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
20653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
20652.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
20654.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
那我們就依教育部版本通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
20655.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
20657.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
宣讀一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
20663.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
20665.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
20664.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
20666.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
為提升學校午餐品質及平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
20666.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
20668.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
城鄉差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
20668.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
20670.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
並推動飲食教育培養學生健康飲食觀念 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
20670.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
20672.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
認識在地多元飲食文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
20672.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
20674.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
具備自然及永續環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
20674.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
20676.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
知能特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
20677.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
20679.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
學校午餐及飲食教育事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
20679.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
20681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
優先適用本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
20681.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
20683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
本條例為規定者適用其他法律式規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
20683.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
20685.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
20686.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
20688.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
我們宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
20687.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
20689.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
依教育部的版本通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
20690.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
20692.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
修正文字通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
20692.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
20694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
教育部貢獻很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].start |
20694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].end |
20696.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].text |
這個建議文字非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].start |
20696.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].end |
20698.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].text |
非常感謝教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
20696.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].end |
20698.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
現在來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
20700.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].end |
20702.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].text |
依教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].start |
20702.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].end |
20704.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].text |
現在本案所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].start |
20705.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].end |
20707.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].text |
本案保留條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].start |
20707.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].end |
20709.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].text |
有第九條、第十一條、第十二條、第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
20709.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].end |
20711.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
第十五條、第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].start |
20711.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].end |
20713.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].text |
第十二十條、第二十二條、第二十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
20713.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
20715.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].text |
含對應之各提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
20715.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
20717.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].text |
條文及修正動議全部送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
20717.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
20719.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].text |
審查結果 |
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20719.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
20721.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
免於重複宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].start |
20721.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].end |
20723.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].text |
在不影響條文文藝前的前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].start |
20723.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].end |
20725.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].text |
文字、條字以及標點符號為統一體力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].start |
20725.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].end |
20727.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].text |
授權議事人員整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].start |
20727.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].end |
20729.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].text |
列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
20729.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
20731.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
本日新增之修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
20731.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
20733.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
立法說明等相關書面資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
20733.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
20735.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
均列入紀錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].start |
20740.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].end |
20742.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].text |
我們要送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].start |
20742.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].end |
20744.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].text |
由意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].start |
20743.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].end |
20745.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].text |
有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].start |
20745.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].end |
20747.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].text |
請點人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].start |
20760.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].end |
20762.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].text |
送院會協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].start |
20762.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].end |
20764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].text |
我們就照程序嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
20764.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].end |
20766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].text |
還會有協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].start |
20766.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].end |
20768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].text |
是不是可以保留在我們的委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].start |
20768.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].end |
20770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].text |
因為今天有很多的提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
20770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].end |
20772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].text |
包括柯政委員他人也不在啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].start |
20772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].end |
20774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].text |
柯政委員我會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].start |
20774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].end |
20776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
黨內的一些一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].start |
20776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].end |
20778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].text |
你們會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].start |
20778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].end |
20780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
對我們會充分的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].start |
20780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].end |
20782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
到時候院會協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].start |
20782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].end |
20784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
我答應過委員我會積極的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
20784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
20786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
再把它整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].start |
20786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
20788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
今天我們有這麼多的版本都用教育部來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
20788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].end |
20790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
我希望事不宜遲 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
20790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].end |
20792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].text |
我們已經進入到我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].start |
20792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].end |
20794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].text |
整體的文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].start |
20794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
20796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
這個法案裡面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].start |
20796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].end |
20798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
實用有的問題太嚴重我們要趕快處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].start |
20798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].end |
20800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].start |
20800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].end |
20802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
在場主席委員八人不含主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
20802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].end |
20804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].text |
主席還是讓我們發言一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].start |
20804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
20806.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
就是說因為我覺得營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
20806.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
20808.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].text |
因為我們也都有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].start |
20808.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].end |
20810.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
所以我覺得這一個案其實我們大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
20810.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].end |
20812.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
共識性也是高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].start |
20812.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
20814.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
我們都希望要趕快把它定得更明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].start |
20814.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
20816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
那麼但是我們的主張是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].start |
20816.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
20818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
今天保留就是還沒有共識的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].start |
20818.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].end |
20820.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].text |
因為我們好不容易其實今天很多條都是有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
20820.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
20822.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
沒有共識保留的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
20822.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].end |
20824.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
我認為應該要留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].start |
20824.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].end |
20826.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].text |
再好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].start |
20826.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].end |
20828.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].text |
至少一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].start |
20828.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].end |
20830.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
為什麼因為像剛剛光是第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].start |
20830.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].end |
20832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
就其實我們現場委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].start |
20832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].end |
20834.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
大家都是有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].start |
20834.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].end |
20836.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].text |
可是因為提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].start |
20836.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].end |
20838.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].text |
修正動議的提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].start |
20838.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].end |
20840.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].text |
他仍不在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].start |
20840.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].end |
20842.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].text |
那透過傳話說他有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].start |
20842.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].end |
20844.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
那麼我覺得因為他畢竟人沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].start |
20844.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].end |
20846.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].text |
但是我們也尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].start |
20846.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
20848.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].text |
他的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].start |
20848.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].end |
20850.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].text |
所以我覺得比較恰當做法應當是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].start |
20850.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
20852.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].text |
下一次委員會這個提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].start |
20852.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].end |
20854.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].text |
他有出席的時候因為他的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].start |
20854.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].end |
20856.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
提出來現場我們還可以進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].start |
20856.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
20858.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
我覺得這是委員會中心主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].start |
20858.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
20860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
他的核心原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].start |
20860.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
20862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].text |
並不是說因為這位委員他是國民黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].start |
20862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
20864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
黨團處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].start |
20864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
20866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
因為我們也希望可以跟他討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
20866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
20868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
因為也許他提出來的理由我們可能是認同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].start |
20868.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
20870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
但是我會先知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].start |
20870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
20872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
他的依據是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
20872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
20874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
但是我們今天關於剛剛這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
20874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
20876.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
我們今天沒有辦法討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
20876.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
20878.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
因為我們只聽到傳話說不在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
20878.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
20880.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
他有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
20880.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
20882.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
可是我們在場委員他那一條我們是有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].start |
20882.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
20884.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
所以比較合理的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].start |
20884.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
20886.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
應該是說等他有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].start |
20886.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
20888.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
提案委員他有出席的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
20888.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
20890.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
我們在委員會這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
20890.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
20892.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
針對他有意見的部分我們來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
20892.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
20894.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
因為我們剛剛每個人都有發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
20894.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
20896.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
我們有意見我們有發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
20896.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
20898.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
現在你就把他送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].start |
20898.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
20900.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
像光是剛剛那一條等於我們在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
20900.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
20902.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
沒有討論到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].start |
20902.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
20904.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
所以我的建議我的提案是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
20904.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
20906.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
我們應該保留的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
20906.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
20908.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
20908.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
20910.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
20910.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
20912.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
我請問你一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].start |
20912.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
20914.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
就保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].start |
20914.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].end |
20916.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
他說11 12有應該要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].start |
20916.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].end |
20918.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].start |
20918.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
20920.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
我剛剛其實已經把原文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].start |
20920.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
20922.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
然後我是傳給柯志恩他說尊重在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
20922.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
20924.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
好那個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
20924.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
20926.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].text |
11 12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
20926.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
20928.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].text |
但我的意思是說今天還有其他的一些條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
20928.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
20930.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
是我們有很多的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
20930.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
20932.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].text |
11 12的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].start |
20932.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
20934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
我們尊重你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].start |
20934.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
20936.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
我現在就照你的說11 12的文字先調出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].start |
20939.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
20941.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].text |
不只11 12啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].start |
20941.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].end |
20943.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].text |
委員我就跟你請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].start |
20943.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
20945.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
你要不要處理11 12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
20945.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
20947.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
如果不要的話那我就不處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
20947.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
20949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
你要我現在馬上處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
20949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
20951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
11 12如果要處理當然可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
20951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
20953.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
如果現場委員沒有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
20953.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
20955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
但不是我啊我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
20955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
20957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
今天除了11 12我們還有很多的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
20957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
20959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
是在場提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
20959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
20961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
甚至不在場的提案委員他們都不在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
20961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
20963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
那你如果是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].start |
20963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
20965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
我是希望能夠保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
20965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
20967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
因為其實周偉你還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
20967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
20969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
權力可以排案在8月底之前你其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
20969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
20971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
還有多次可以排案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
20971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
20973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
那我覺得讓大家都到的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
20973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
20975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
其實大家一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
20975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
20977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
那個時候大家才會有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
20977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
20979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
而不是現在我就決定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
20979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
20981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
我要送院會去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
20981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
20983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
送院會去處理的時候其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
20983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
20985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
那不在場的這些委員的意見呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].start |
20985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
20987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
他們的提案的重點呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
20987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
20989.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
這些東西有沒有辦法被實質的納入進去討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
20989.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
20991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
我覺得這個已經失去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
20991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
20993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
委員會的中心思想了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
20993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
20995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
20995.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
20997.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
好 胡理華委員請簡單發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
20997.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
20999.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
謝謝主席齁 那我也代表一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].start |
20999.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
21001.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
那個陳培宇委員跟吳思堯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
21001.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
21005.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
因為他們也很想參與討論也都有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
21005.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
21007.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
他們要來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
21007.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
21011.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
不是啊 就是因為禮拜五的晚上突然臨時變更議程啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].start |
21011.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].end |
21013.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
他的機票買什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
21013.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
21015.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
我如果沒改的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
21015.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
21017.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].text |
是 那我們的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].start |
21017.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
21021.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
既然今天都有版本的委員不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
21021.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
21023.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
那也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].start |
21023.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
21027.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
就是在這樣的一個保留在委員會之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].start |
21027.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
21029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
我們也很樂意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
21029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
21031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
下一次您也可以再排一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
21031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
21033.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
讓我們可以充分的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
21033.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
21035.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
我只是針對沒有來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].start |
21035.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
21037.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
有版本的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
21037.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
21039.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
因為今天對他們來講真的是太唐突了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].start |
21039.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
21041.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
21041.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
21043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].start |
21043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
21045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
下次不要去這麼多天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].start |
21045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
21047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
21049.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
21051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
蘇彬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].start |
21051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
21053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
好 謝謝主席齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].start |
21053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
21055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
因為剛才有要說要討論的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
21055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
21057.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
應該是在有保留的嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
21057.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
21059.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
剛才都討論過說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
21059.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
21061.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
我們亂一輪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
21061.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
21063.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].text |
那是現在還有保留的部分對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].start |
21063.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
21065.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
還是都沒有保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].start |
21065.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
21067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
都沒有保留的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
21067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
21069.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
那就應該可以送出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].start |
21069.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
21071.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
除非是還有保留的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
21071.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
21073.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
那就是還在委員會裡面再做一次政黨協商啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].start |
21073.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
21075.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
不然都沒有表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
21075.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
21077.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
會啊會再做政黨協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
21077.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
21079.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
在委員會裡面做政黨協商就好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
21079.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
21081.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
應該是這樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
21081.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
21083.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
好現在清點人數完畢喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
21083.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
21085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
八人不含主席現在開始表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
21085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
21087.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
21086.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
21088.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
我們現在要送出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].start |
21090.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
21092.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
欸 等一下 我確定一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].start |
21094.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
21096.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
因為剛剛有意義嘛 要保留嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].start |
21106.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
21108.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
好 我們贊成保留送委員會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
21108.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
21110.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
21110.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
21112.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
對不起 更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
21112.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
21114.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
我們現在舉手投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
21114.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
21116.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
贊成保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
21116.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].end |
21118.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].text |
送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].start |
21118.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].end |
21120.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].text |
也就是要出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].start |
21120.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].end |
21122.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
請舉手投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].start |
21124.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].end |
21126.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].text |
好 四位 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
21126.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
21128.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
21128.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].end |
21130.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].text |
要保留在委員會內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
21130.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
21132.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
不要送出委員會的 請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
21134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
21136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
好 四位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
21136.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
21138.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
21140.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
21142.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
表決結果 在場委員八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
21142.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
21144.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
贊成者四人 反對者四人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
21144.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].end |
21146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].text |
贊成者與反對者同數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].start |
21146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].end |
21148.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].start |
21149.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].end |
21151.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].text |
我們本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].start |
21151.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].end |
21153.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
要來做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].start |
21153.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].end |
21155.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
我贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].start |
21155.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
21157.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
保留送出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].start |
21157.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
21159.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
那來院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
21159.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
21161.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
所以 贊成者五人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
21162.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
21164.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
反對者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
21164.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
21166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
四人 贊成者多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
21166.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].end |
21168.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
本案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
21169.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].end |
21171.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
本案逐條均已處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
21171.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
21173.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
作以下宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
21173.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
21175.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
學校午餐及飲食教育條例相關查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
21175.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].end |
21177.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
已全部審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
21177.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
21179.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
並按擬據審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
21179.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].end |
21181.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
提醒院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
21181.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
21183.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
本案是否需交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
21186.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
21188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
好 由委員提要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
21188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
21190.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
本案需交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
21190.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
21192.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
謝謝 院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
21192.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
21194.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
由羅召集委員 庭委補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
21195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
21197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
21197.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
21199.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
21199.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
21201.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
本次會議議程處理完畢 現在散會 |