| IVOD_ID |
17619 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17619 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-19,35,20-2 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[2] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-27T08:30:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-27T16:53:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
08:22:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/16eb79f0bb3b77db736c27b13f6e9737b1b57e8a8fefb5feb5b204f4a37948b950ea03f46a581f515ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議（事由：一、 繼續併案審查：
（一） 行政院函請審議「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（二） 本院國民黨黨團擬具「國防自主無人載具科技發展及採購條例草案」案。
（三） 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「強化國防自主暨無人機產業發展條例草案」案。
（四） 本院委員林楚茵等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
二、 併案審查：
（五） 本院委員陳素月等20人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（六） 本院委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（七） 本院委員林宜瑾等26人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（八） 本院委員吳思瑤等16人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（九） 本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（十） 本院委員賴士葆等43人擬具「國防戰略無人載具國外採購暨技術合作特別條例草案」案。
（十一） 本院委員賴士葆等44人擬具「無人載具產業升級發展條例草案」案。
（十二） 本院委員李坤城等18人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。
（十三） 本院委員鍾佳濱等21人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購暨產業創建特別條例草案」案。
（十四） 本院委員王定宇等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購暨產業創建特別條例草案」案。
(第十四案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文，則不予審查)(處理)） |
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親親 |
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我們再等一下 |
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因為那個還差法定出席委員人數還差四個 |
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黃會開始請主席報告出席人數 |
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報告聯席會出席委員16人已足法定人數 |
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那我們現在開會 |
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進行報告思想 |
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2019.39 |
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請宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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立法院第11屆第五會籍 |
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第一次聯席會議事錄 |
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時間115年7月16日 |
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2030.25 |
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地點紅樓101會議室 |
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主席人陳廷輝等40人 |
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2033.57 |
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2034.61 |
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請教委員1人 |
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2036.45 |
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2038.81 |
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2040.45 |
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國防部部長顧立雄等 |
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2040.45 |
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2042.53 |
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主席召集委員洪玉祥 |
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2042.53 |
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2043.33 |
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2044.13 |
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便要審查 |
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2045.61 |
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一 行政院含金選議 |
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2046.97 |
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國防自主無人載具 |
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2046.97 |
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2048.45 |
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2048.49 |
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2050.93 |
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2052.57 |
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國防自主無人載具 |
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2052.57 |
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2054.09 |
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2054.09 |
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2056.13 |
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2056.13 |
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2057.17 |
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強化國防自主 |
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2057.17 |
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2059.57 |
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暨無人機產業發展條例草案 |
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2059.57 |
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2061.77 |
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四 本院國民黨黨黨擬具 |
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2061.77 |
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2063.37 |
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國防自主無人載具 |
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2065.93 |
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2065.93 |
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2067.41 |
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談事項 和平詢答 |
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2067.41 |
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2068.89 |
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委員林楚英等33人 |
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2068.89 |
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2069.73 |
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提出質詢 |
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2069.73 |
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2071.33 |
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經由國防部部長顧立雄等 |
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2071.33 |
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2072.29 |
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2072.29 |
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2073.97 |
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2073.97 |
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2076.01 |
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其餘發言完畢 詢答結束 |
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2076.05 |
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2078.17 |
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委員劉美齡 林德福 林思明 |
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2078.17 |
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2080.21 |
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傅坤琦 張家俊及蘇晶全 |
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2080.21 |
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2082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
所提書面質詢列入紀錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2084.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
書面質詢和未及答復部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2084.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2086.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
請相關單位於一週內 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2086.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2087.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
以書面答復並複製本會 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2087.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2089.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
委員命委要求期限者重啟鎖定 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2089.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2091.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
決議 詢答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2091.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2092.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
另定期繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2092.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2093.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
散會 宣布完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2094.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
好 請問各位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2097.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
上次會議是有抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2098.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2100.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
好 沒有錯誤的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2100.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2101.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
我們醫師陸決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2102.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2104.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
那我們繼續進行討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2104.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2132.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2162.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2164.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2169.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
好 介紹一下在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2173.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
有陳廷飛委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2173.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2174.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2174.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2175.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
陳永康委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2175.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2177.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
鄭政前委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2178.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2179.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
然後出席的機關首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2179.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2181.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
經濟部政務次長何金昌 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2182.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2184.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
產發署副署長周宇新 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2185.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2187.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
標準局組長陳成章 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2188.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
國發會副處長陳雄華 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2193.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
行政院國藥方針基金管理委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2197.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
副執秘師名聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2200.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
國防部部長顧立雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2202.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2205.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
蘇丹部資通安全署主任秘書陳慧平 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
2208.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2211.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
川安部行政司決論紀政楊博文 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
2212.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2216.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
行政公公公準委會企劃處副處長陳仲佑 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2217.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2221.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
國科會工程技術發展處專委張嘉煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
2222.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2224.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
財政部副處長副署長雷立新 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2225.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2228.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
行政院主計總處專委陳台偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2231.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
法律部法制私參事料將限 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
2235.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2237.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
我們的莊嘉賓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
2245.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
本日議程排定審查行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
2248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
各黨團及各委員所提示案 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2253.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
其中行政院國民黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
2253.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
民眾黨黨團及委員鄰群等人之提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
2257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
於本會期7月16日詢答結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
2260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2264.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
之後院會又交付聯席委員會審查等實案 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2264.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
那麼今日合併審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
本次會議針對院會新交付審查頂十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2276.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
請提案委員說明提案的要旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2276.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2280.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
根據委員的這個提案說明順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2280.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
首先的話是有請賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2285.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
第二位莊嘉賓委員準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2285.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2287.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
第三位是賴瑞龍委員請準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2289.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
2294.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2296.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
診斷發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
2299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
2303 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
不用不用我們請賴世保委員自己做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
2307.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
2308.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
千萬不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
2311.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
2315.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
2316.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
2319.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
謝謝因為我的案子剛進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
2319.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
2321.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
所以有這個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
2321.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
2322.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
其實我是兩個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
2322.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2324.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
但是中心思想是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2325.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
那麼中心思想就是要讓無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2332.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
他的技術能夠在台灣能夠升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2333.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2334.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
旅遊如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2334.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
那麼第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2339.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
現在看到國防部提了這個特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2339.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2341.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
行政院提了這個特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2341.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2345.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
他就是要買二十億萬架的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2346.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
還有無人艇大概上千 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2348.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2352.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
上千架上千台的無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2352.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
可是你看到二十億萬架的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2359.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
基本上都是比較低階的 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2359.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2361.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
基礎層次是低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2362.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2364.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
那麼現在來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2364.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2365.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
來講就有一個現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2366.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2368.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
這個經濟部的核次長在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2369.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2371.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
在前一陣子來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2371.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2372.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
很大聲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2372.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2374.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
這個也垮垮而談 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2374.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2377.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
說我們無人機的產業發展得多好 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2378.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2379.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
我們去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2383.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
有一百多億的產值是前年的2.5倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2384.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
然後行政院剛通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2387.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2390.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
預算先跑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2390.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2391.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
就是未來的幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2391.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2394.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
要編了442億 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2394.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2397.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
來輔助這個無人機的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2398.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2399.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
所以你可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2399.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2401.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
這個政府就是行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2401.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2403.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
拼命在丟錢給現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2403.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2406.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我們的無人機的產業這些廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2406.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2410.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
廠商的幾家有267家之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2411.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2412.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
丟給他們什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2415.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2416.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
你們是甚麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2417.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
這個不就給殺不了就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2419.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2421.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
這不是訂單的就給錢就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2424.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
那為什麼全部給這個267家通通可以給嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2429.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
天女三花 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2429.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2431.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
267家通通給嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2432.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2434.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
我想不死的,你要認真講的話! |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2438.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
無人宰居的產業一定有一個龍頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2438.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2440.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
所以應該是幾家的龍頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2440.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2444.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
比如說我們中科院就很適合當這個龍頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2444.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2447.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
中科院就很適合來整個來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2447.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2449.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
他來主導,然後他帶著一串 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2451.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
這個才是一個發展無人機產業的一個實際的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2455.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2457.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2457.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2459.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
台灣目前無人機的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2459.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2463.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
所謂無人機產業,廠商有267家 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
267家是多 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2473.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
可是真正能夠整機來handle的沒有幾家了 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2473.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2476 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
就是說可以當頭的這幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2476.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2478.51 |
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好了,那這個結果會是怎麼樣? |
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2479.07 |
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2481.07 |
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如果按照這樣的邏輯來講的話 |
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2481.07 |
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2486.79 |
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那就少數幾家會拿到政府2100億的訂單 |
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2486.79 |
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2488.79 |
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因為他要發給其他的 |
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2488.86 |
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2492.3 |
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所以整個來講的話就會產生一個現象 |
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2492.3 |
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就是當這些龍頭只有少數幾家的時候 |
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2498.82 |
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其他的人就會講了幾個字 |
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2498.82 |
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2501.18 |
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我安安命,為什麼沒有我的份 |
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2501.8 |
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2503.84 |
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這是第一個我安安命 |
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2503.95 |
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2508.11 |
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第二個程度呢,要再分下去的時候 |
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2508.11 |
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2509.55 |
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也是有一些吃不到 |
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2509.55 |
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2512.51 |
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他不可能267家都吃到這個錢 |
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2512.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2514.51 |
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然後一樣,還安命 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2515.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2518.82 |
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但在這個之外,無人機產業之外 |
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2518.82 |
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2520.82 |
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比如說工具企業 |
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2520.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2523.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
比如說傳統的跟機器有關係的 |
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2523.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2526.27 |
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或者跟自動貨有關係的廠商 |
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2526.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2529.07 |
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也會講,為什麼我沒有呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2529.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2531.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2530.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2534.15 |
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我們這一次行政院給了21億 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2536.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2538.5 |
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這個無人宰巨 |
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2538.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2542.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
其實道地的天理,這個叫要錦上添花 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2543.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
我沒有吃到 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
經濟部不斷的強調 |
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2547.04 |
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2549.68 |
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我們現在多好,前陣子也看到自己那個新聞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2550.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2556.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
我們有廠商賣給少女阿嬤婆5千叫的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2556.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2560.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
然後最近又哪一家得到什麼國外的訂單 |
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2560.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2564.4 |
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就以我們來講,廠商都已經可以 |
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2564.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2569.16 |
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以現在的技術,賣給世界其他國家,也有外銷 |
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2569.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
這是經濟部一直強調的戰績 |
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2572.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2574.36 |
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說我們現在無人機產業發展的多好 |
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2574.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2577.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
可以變成第二座的富國神車 |
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2577.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2579.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
我們的同意,好不好? |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2579.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2581.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
那有必要再給它訂單嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2581.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2583.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
所以現在需要什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2588.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
現在的國內無人機產業最需要的就是什麼? |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2589.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2591.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
給它技術升級 |
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2592.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2596 |
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技術升級就是我這兩個提案的中性思想 |
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2596 |
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2598 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
我一個提案 |
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2597.41 |
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2600.57 |
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就是,促進無人機 |
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2601.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2603.49 |
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的產業發展條例 |
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2604.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
我的基本精神就比較過去 |
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2607.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2609.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
蔡英文 |
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2608.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2613.03 |
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還沒到總統之前,跟王金平院長共同推的 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2613.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2617.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
生物產生氣產業發展條例 |
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2617.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2620.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
裡面我的內容幾乎都跟他 |
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2622.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2624.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
Follow他的精神 |
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2625.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2627.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
所以台灣的生技產業也發展一陣子 |
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2627.73 |
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2631.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
當然生技產業到後來,最後一定要看到的成果 |
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2631.41 |
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2634.29 |
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這個成果好像是無論打誰,都不管怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2634.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2636.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
有一個條例在哪裡? |
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2636.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2638.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
所以我是根據 |
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2638.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2640.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
那個條例的精神,我提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2640.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
讓無人載具產業 |
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2644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
無人載具,不是無人機而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
無人機,無人亭 |
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2648.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2650.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
還有自動駕駛車輛等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2652.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2654.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
這些通通在我的範圍裡面 |
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2654.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2656.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
各位可以看我的條例 |
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2656.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2658.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
第一條就講得非常清楚 |
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2658.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2660.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
所以一個 |
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2659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2662.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
無人載具的產業發展條例 |
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2662.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
那就是希望 |
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2664.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2666.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
能夠我們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2666.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2668.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
要 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2667.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2669.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2669.27 |
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2673.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
在無人載具技術的申請方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2673.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2675.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
我們給他一些的補助 |
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2675.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2677.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
或者比如說利息的補貼 |
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2677.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2679.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
比如說租稅的減免等等 |
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2679.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2680.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
等等 |
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2680.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2682.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
這是一個案子 |
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2682.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2684.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
另外一個案子,一樣 |
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2684.27 |
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2686.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
他終於是這樣,就是要技術申請 |
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2686.42 |
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2688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
另外一個案子就是 |
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2688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2690.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
我們跟國外的先進國家 |
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2690.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2692.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
賣 |
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2691.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2693.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
這個無人機,無人載具 |
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2695.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2696.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
賣,無人機 |
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2697.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2699.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
拿刀,刀,刀,刀 |
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2699.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2700.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
一定要有一個 |
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2700.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2702.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
offset program |
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2702.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2703.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
就是工業合作 |
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2703.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
offset |
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2705.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2706.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
我們這裡面就 |
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2706.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2707.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
強制規定 |
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2708.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2709.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
我可以買100塊 |
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2709.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2711.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
你要給我買40塊以上 |
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2712.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2713.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
50塊60塊更好 |
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2713.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2714.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
什麼意思 |
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2714.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2716.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
你技術要移轉給我 |
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2716.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2718.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
要在我這裡深坑 |
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2719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2720.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
所以這兩個案子 |
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2720.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2722.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
其實我最希望的就是 |
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2722.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2724.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
台灣的無人機 |
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2724.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2725.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
賞蝴蝶 |
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2725.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2727.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
要利用這一次 |
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2728.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2730.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
我們新世界整個動起來 |
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2730.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2732.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
財運利益整個動起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2732.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2733.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
我們一起來 |
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2733.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2735.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
希望台灣的無人載具 |
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2735.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2737.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2737.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2739.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
技術能夠升級 |
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2739.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2740.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
所以我再強調一遍 |
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2740.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2741.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我強調就是 |
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2741.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2743.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
技術升級 |
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2743.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2744.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
至於說 |
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2744.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2745.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
你要這個錢 |
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2745.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2747.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
國務部要2100億 |
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2747.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2748.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
要特別預算 |
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2748.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2749.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
我們強調的是 |
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2749.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2750.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
年度預算 |
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2750.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2752.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
國務部常常一直在講說 |
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2752.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2753.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
哎呀,這會排擠其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2753.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2754.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2755.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2756.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2756.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2758.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
國防預算占GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2758.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2759.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
已經超過3% |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2759.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2761.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
但是賴總統說 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2761.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2762.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
在2030年 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2762.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2763.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
應該沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2763.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2765.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
要到達5% |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2765.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2767.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
現在是2026年結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2767.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2770.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
2027、2028、2029、2030 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2770.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2771.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
四年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2771.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2773.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
要增加3% |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2773.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2774.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
3%是什麼概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2774.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2776.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
我們現在GDP大概26兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2776.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2778.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
1%就是2600億 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2778.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2780.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
3%各位可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2780.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2782.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
所以3%是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2782.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2784.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
大概就將近8000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2784.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2785.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
8000億付給4年 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2785.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2786.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
所以1年 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2786.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2789.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
國防預算要增加2千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2791.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2792.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
何來排擠之所 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2794 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2795 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
所以這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2795 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2797 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
完全沒有必要放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2797 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2799 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
要特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2799 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2801 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
應該要回歸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2801 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2802 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2803.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2804.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
這部分來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2804.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
我是沒有提這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2807.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
我在強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2809.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2810.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
這個案子來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
你要我們的國防預算占GDP的 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2816.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
無法 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2816.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2818.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
你大概有8000億的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2818.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2819.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
未來的4年 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2819.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2821.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
8000億的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2821.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2823.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
所以1年大概平均2千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2824.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2825.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2825.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2826.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
不會排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2826.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2827.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
可能不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2827.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2828.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2828.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2829.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
也請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2831.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
特別是郭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2833.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2833.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2834.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
好好去稍微的 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2836.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2837.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2837.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2839.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
腦子稍微的轉一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2839.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2840.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
recept一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2840.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2842.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
我們願意實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2842.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
你要2千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2843.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2844.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
我們當然說2千4 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2844.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2845.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
就放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2845.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2846.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2846.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2847.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
我想這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2847.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2848.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
很快就會有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2848.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2850.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
按照實在的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2850.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2851.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
它總共就 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2852.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2853.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2853.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2854.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
扣掉名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2854.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2856.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
扣掉主管單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2856.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2857.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
扣掉實時日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2857.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2858.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
只有4條 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2859.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2860.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
裡面再扣掉1條 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2860.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2861.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2861.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
要審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2863.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
要定期的審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2863.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2865.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
這個本來就有審計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2865.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2867.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
這一條也是redundant |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2867.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2868.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
扣掉這個只有3條 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2868.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2869.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
3條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2871.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2872.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
就要了2千1百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2872.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2873.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2873.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2874.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
比較起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2874.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2875.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2875.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2876.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
黨團其他委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2876.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
其實相對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2878.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
都比較仔細 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2878.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2879.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
比較完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2879.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2881.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
我做簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2881.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
我也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2883.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
請各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2883.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
等一下協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
能夠把 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2886.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
這個真的要幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2890.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2890.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2893.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2893.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2894.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2895.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
比什麼都重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2895.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2896.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
2千1百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2896.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
2千4百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2897.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2898.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
甚至於更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2898.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2900.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
其實我們都可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2900.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2902.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
只要能夠達到技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2902.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2905.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2906.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2906.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2908.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
我們謝謝賴時保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2908.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2909.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
接下來我們請 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2909.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2910.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
宗家必因委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2910.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2911.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
提案要止 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2918.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2919.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2919.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2920.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
在場的委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2920.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2921.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
熱血的政府機構上 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2921.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2922.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
官員會長 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2922.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2923.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
公眾夥伴媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2923.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2924.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
記者女士先聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2924.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2926.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
今天我們在審理一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2926.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2928.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
攸關台灣未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2928.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2929.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2929.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2931.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
自我防衛的重要法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2932.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2933.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2933.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2935.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
大家已經談了很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2935.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2936.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2936.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2938.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
為什麼是經濟文化的主審 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2938.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2940.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
既然是經濟文化的主審 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2940.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2941.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
為什麼國防部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2941.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2943.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
要那麼的坐在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2944.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2945.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
而剛剛媒體朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2945.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2946.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
剛擰在外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2946.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2948.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
你們有去問經濟部長的意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2948.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2949.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
經濟部次長意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2949.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2950.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2950.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2953.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
你們要問國防部部長的意見啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2953.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2955.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
今天在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2955.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2956.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
除了政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2956.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2958.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
跟我們是經濟委員會的以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2958.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2959.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2959.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2960.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
在場的委員多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2960.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2962.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
是國防委員啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2962.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2963.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
我們的黃恩委員啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2963.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2965.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
我們的陳委員陳將軍啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2965.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2967.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
賴委員是財政的 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2967.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2968.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
我過去跟他在財政共事 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2968.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2969.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
他的確很專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2969.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2970.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
但是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2970.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
我們要討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
是國防的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2975.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2976.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
哪 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2976.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2977.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
大家很好奇啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2977.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2978.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
今天主席坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2978.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2979.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
政委坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2979.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2981.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
沒有對主席不敬的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2981.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2983.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
今天的議程是您排的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2983.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2984.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
我跟大家說啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2984.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2985.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2987.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
這裡媒體可以記錄下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
上週五 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2991.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
時間地點我保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2992.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
親眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2993.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2994.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2994.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2995.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2995.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2997.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
跟美國AIT的官員的對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2999.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
3000.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
大家認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
3000.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
3001.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
國民黨現在誰當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
3003.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
3004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
昨天那個舞台上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
3004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
3005.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
鄭麗雯主席嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
3005.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
3006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
3006.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
3009.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
國民黨現在是立法院當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
3009.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
3010.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
立法院誰當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
3011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
3012.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
是護崑區總罩當家嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
3012.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
3014.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
是韓國瑜院長當家嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
3014.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
3015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
3016.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
3018.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
是傅崑琪總罩當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
3019.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
3021.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
為什麼是傅崑琪總罩當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
3021.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
3022.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
3022.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
3023.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
立法院接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
3024.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
3025.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
今年度的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
3025.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
3026.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
什麼時候要過 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
3026.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
3028.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
不是韓院長說了算 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
3029.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
3030.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
3030.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
3031.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
3031.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
3032.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
這個重要的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
3032.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
3033.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
3033.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
3034.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
怎麼樣審 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
3035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
3037.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
也是副總召說的算術 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
3038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
3039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
副總召在上週五 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
3039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
3041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
當著美國在台協會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
3041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
3042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
3042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
3043.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
3043.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
3045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
依照國民黨副主席的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
3045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
是科長的層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3048.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3049.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3050.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3051.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3052.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3053.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
他會在他講那個日期 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3054.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3055.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
就一定會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3056.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3057.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3057.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3058.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3058.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3059.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
無人載具專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3060.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3061.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
一定會在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3061.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3062.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
主委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3062.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3064.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
會在8月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3064.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3065.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3067.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
天吶 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3067.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3068.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
立法院現在變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3068.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3069.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
副總召的橡皮圖章 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3070.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3071.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
我們的召委在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3071.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3072.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
只是個棋子 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3073.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
他今天在排了這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3077.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3078.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
三個委員會聯席 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3078.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3080.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
今天只有兩個委員會開會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3082.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3084.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
總召你回去再去檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3085.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3086.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
你親口跟我說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3086.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3088.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
一定要在今天主委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3090.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3091.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
一個重要的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3091.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3093.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
居然可以現實立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3093.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3094.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
我說到第一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3095.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
就是藍白在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3096.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3097.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
甲桿公爭拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3099.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3101.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
為什麼要在今天主委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3101.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
因為今天是7月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3103.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3105.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
根據我們的議事規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3106.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
立法院直選行司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3107.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3109.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
要冷凍期一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3109.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3110.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
什麼時候可以表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3110.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3111.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
今天主委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3111.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3112.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
交互裁決協章 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3112.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3114.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
8月28號星期五 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3117.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
本會期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3118.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3120.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
最後一個星期五就可以表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3120.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
為什麼集合在本會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
要表決這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3124.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3126.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
無人宅劇專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3126.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3128.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
就是要表態給人家看 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3128.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3129.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
既然這麼敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3130.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3131.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3132.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3134.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
今天要馬上出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3135.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3137.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
本席的條文幾條 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3137.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3139.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
本席的版本條文幾條 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3139.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3140.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
主席啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3140.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3141.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3141.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3142.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
你要在一天內出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3142.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3143.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
這就是趕工嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3144.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3145.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
為什麼要趕工 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3146.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3148.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
因為前面都在拖延啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3148.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3149.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
本席第一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3149.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3151.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
5月底已經提出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3152.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3154.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
被藍白丟包 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3156.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3157.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
各自在成選會 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3158.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3159.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
行政的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3159.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3160.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
6月就送來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3160.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3162.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
有交互審查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3162.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3163.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3163.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3165.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
一樣擱置在陳旭委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3165.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3166.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
一直到 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3166.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3167.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
我們苦口婆心 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3167.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3168.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
拜託在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3168.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3169.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
如果你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3169.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3170.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
行政院的版本不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3170.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3171.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3171.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3173.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
民進黨委員的版本不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3173.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3175.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
提出你們的法案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3176.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3177.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
先先來直 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3177.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
好不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3178.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3179.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
提出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3179.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3180.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3180.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3181.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
這就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3181.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3182.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
假趕工 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3182.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3183.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
真拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3183.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3184.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
後面趕的要死 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3184.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3186.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
前面拖的要命 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3189.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
有認真在審嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3190.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3192.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
5月底就提出了票擱置 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3192.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3193.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3193.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3194.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
6月送來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3194.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3195.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
放在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3197.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
7月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3198.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3199.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
27號了 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3199.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3200.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
才說他一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3200.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
要把14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3203.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
一天審完初委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3203.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3204.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
以便在8月的 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3204.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
最後一個星期五 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3207.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
來交互三讀表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3210.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
假趕工 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3211.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3212.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
真拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
送給我們的在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3215.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
你們主導國會的意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3215.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
主導到這種程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3219.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3219.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
那怎麼樣呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3220.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
我們給大家看 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3221.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3223.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
我要送給他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3223.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3224.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
就是在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3224.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3227.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
用行動證明自己造假 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3227.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3228.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
自我推翻 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3229.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3230.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
再賣出 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3230.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3231.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3231.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3234.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
2100億的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3235.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3236.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
2100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3238.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3239.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
國民黨的版本怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3240.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3241.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
不是賴委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3241.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3242.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
賴委員的是500億特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3243.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3245.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3245.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3246.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
不要用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3246.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3247.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
因為特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3247.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3249.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
是逾越了 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3249.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3250.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3250.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3252.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
逾越了行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3252.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3253.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
逾越了行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3253.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3254.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
他們的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3254.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3255.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
那我給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3255.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3257.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
6年的400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3257.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3258.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
每年400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3258.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3259.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
連續6年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3262.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3263.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3265.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3266.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
如果說行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3266.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3267.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
送特別預算來 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3267.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3269.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
是逾越了行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3269.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3270.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
你們行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3271.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3273.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
總統的任期只到2028 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3273.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3275.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
你送來的預算到什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3276.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3277.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
到2030 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3277.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3278.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3278.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
你這個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
特別預算本來就是跨年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3281.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3282.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
跨年度才需要特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3284.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
那 哪來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3284.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3285.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
6年2400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3286.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3287.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
每年編400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3287.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
請問這屆的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3290.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
幹到哪一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3291.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
幹到2028年 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3292.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
如果照這個邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3294.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3295.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3295.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
不能提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3296.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3297.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
超過賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3297.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3298.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
2028 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3298.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3299.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
這一屆的任期 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3299.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3301.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
那立法院更扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3301.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3303.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
可以直接指明 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3303.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
未來的6年 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3304.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
每年要編行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3306.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3308.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
編400億給無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3309.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3310.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
可笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3311.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3312.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
可笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3312.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3313.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3313.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3314.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
砍五毛給一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3314.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3315.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
就這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3315.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
表面上 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3317.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
給你2400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3317.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3319.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
比行政院的2100還多 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3320.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
但是事實上呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3321.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3322.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
放在這個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3322.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3323.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
不倫不類 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3325.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
用一個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3327.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
限定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3327.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
超越 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3329.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3329.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
本屆任期 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3331.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3332.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
未來6年 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3332.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3333.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
要求每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3333.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3334.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
行政院編400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3336.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3337.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
410年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3337.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3338.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
這樣有保證嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3338.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3339.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
我跟大家講 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3339.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3340.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
這個支票是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3341.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3342.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3342.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3343.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
國民黨已經有行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3343.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3344.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
來證明自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3344.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3345.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
造假 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3347.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3348.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
他連行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3348.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3351.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
6年無人載具的統籌計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3351.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3353.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
行政院的中長程計畫會浴框 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3353.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3355.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
還有442億 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3357.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
他已經犯話 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3357.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3358.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
要全山啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3359.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3360.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
要特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3360.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3361.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
你不給 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3361.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3362.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
你說給年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3362.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3364.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
放在年度預算的統籌心計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3364.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3365.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
440億 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3365.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3366.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
還沒省 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3367.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3368.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
就要三了 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3369.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3370.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
那大家能相信嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3370.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3372.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
能真心相信在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3372.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3373.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
相信藍白 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3373.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
是要讓台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3375.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
擁有無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3375.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3376.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
無人機來保衛自己的國家嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3377.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3378.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
見鬼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3380.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3381.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
見鬼啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3381.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3382.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
自我推翻 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3382.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3383.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
用自己的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3383.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3384.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
自己的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3384.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3386.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
來證明自己造假 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3388.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3389.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
根本不是要給 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3389.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3390.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
真心給國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3390.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3392.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
每年400億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3392.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3393.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3394.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3396.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
連現在編的440億 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3396.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3397.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
你都要三了 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3398.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
誰會相信你未來六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3400.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
每年會給行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3400.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3402.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
400億的無人載具的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3404.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
鬼扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3406.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3407.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
所以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3407.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3409.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
我用我們鄉親聽懂的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3409.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3410.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
什麼叫做特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3412.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
什麼叫做年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
如果你要買一棟透天柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
假設我在屏東 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
我買一間透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3418.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3419.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
要兩千一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3422.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我是不是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3422.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3423.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
有資備款 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3424.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3426.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
我是不是要跟銀行辦貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3426.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3428.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
我要跟承包商說 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3428.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3430.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
我兩千一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3430.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3431.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
我存好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3431.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
我這個透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
需要一段時間去 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
但是我一定時間到 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
照工程的進度來入錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3440.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3441.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3441.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3443.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
兩千一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3443.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3445.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
條例送給我們立法院審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3445.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3446.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
就算通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3446.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3448.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
這個額度到底最後是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3448.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3449.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
還可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3450.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3451.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
但是一旦確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3452.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3454.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
未來到2030年 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3454.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3455.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3455.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3457.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
這間透天一柱要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3457.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3459.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
我們就要教訓教走 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3459.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3461.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
你跟包商說 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3461.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3463.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
我這間房子要放兩千一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3463.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3465.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
你就要準備兩千一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3465.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3466.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
人家要跟你參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3467.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3468.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
沒送你去信 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3468.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3469.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
你說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3470.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3472.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
我要去一間透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3472.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3473.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
但是我一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3473.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3474.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
全系百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3475.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3477.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
但是一年四百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3477.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3478.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
我們沒有說尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3479.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3480.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
因為這條錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3480.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3481.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
是我們定人家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3482.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3483.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
有這樣的事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3485.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3486.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
我們的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3486.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3488.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
需要一個完整的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3489.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3490.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
他不是透天一柱啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3491.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3492.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
我剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3492.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3493.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
一棟透天柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3493.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3494.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
兩千一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3494.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3496.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
災難說太少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3496.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3498.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
我給你六座小木屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3498.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3499.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
一座四百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3501.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3502.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
你要每年一座 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3502.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
四百萬蓋個小木屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3505.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
還是要蓋一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3505.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3506.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
可以居住 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3506.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
真正長治久安的 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3508.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3509.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3511.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
我想一般鄉親都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3511.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3512.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
當然要一個透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3513.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3514.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
我怎麼說要一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3514.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3515.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
你給我蓋一個小木屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3515.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3517.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
蓋蓋蓋蓋蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3517.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3518.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
每年都蓋蓋蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3519.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3521.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
不是兩千四百億比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3521.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3523.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
那是假支票 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3526.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
所以我在這說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3528.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3529.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
我們不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3529.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
我們要的是一棟透天柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3531.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3534.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
我們不要六座小木屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3534.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3535.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
更何況如果把這個比喻 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3535.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
放在我們國皇上 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3538.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3539.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
我們要一座 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3539.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3541.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
可以抵擋敵人攻擊的碉堡 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3542.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3545.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
不是六座在沙灘上的野戰帳篷 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3546.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3547.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
國民黨的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3547.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3548.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
剛剛講的天花亂墜 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3549.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3551.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
說什麼年度預算比較能夠把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3551.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3553.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
說什麼產業需要償單 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3553.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3554.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
沒有錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3554.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3556.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
你跟營造廠下個單 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3556.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3558.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
我兩千一百萬給你蓋一個透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3558.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3560.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
他就會去掉工掉料啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3560.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3562.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
你跟他說我一年給你四百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3562.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
你給我蓋一個透天一柱 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3564.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3565.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
整隻去給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3567.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3568.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3570.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
今天的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3570.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
今天的法案審查很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3572.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3574.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3574.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3575.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
用來區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3576.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
特別預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3578.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
就是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3579.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3580.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
年度預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3580.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3581.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
沒有預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3581.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3582.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
就是假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3583.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3585.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
所以賴委員先離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3585.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3586.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
我要恭喜賴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3586.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3587.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
他的版本是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3588.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
多謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3591.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3592.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
五百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3592.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
就是真實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3594.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
國民黨現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3595.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3596.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
唯一的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3597.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3599.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
打算來回應整個社會國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3599.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3601.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
我們自我防衛的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3601.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3603.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
要給國防部採購無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3603.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3604.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
五百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3606.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3608.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
這不是砍五毛給一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3609.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
這是要五塊給一毛啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3612.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3614.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
我們要兩千一百億來建立國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3614.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3617.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
他說我給你五百億的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3617.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3618.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3619.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3620.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
聽看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3620.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3621.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
所以這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3621.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3622.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
我們要跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3625.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3628.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
六棟小木屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3628.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
換不到一座透天處 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3632.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3634.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
六座小木屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3634.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3635.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
換不到一座 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3635.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3636.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
透天處 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3640.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
我們很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3640.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
本席的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
也是以行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3645.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
兩千一百億去設算 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3645.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3646.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3646.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3648.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
賴世保委員他有兩套法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3649.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3651.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
他說這兩套他剛自己講 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3651.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3652.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
我說你要不要講兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3652.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3653.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
他說不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3653.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3654.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3654.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
這兩個併在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3655.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3656.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
其實就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3656.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3657.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
如果要這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3657.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3658.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
就用本席的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3658.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3661.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
本席版本就是有行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3661.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3663.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
兩千一百萬的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3663.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3664.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
特別預算額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3664.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3666.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
但是也有賴世保委員裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3666.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3667.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
他裡面寫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3667.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3670.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
他說無人載具產業要升級條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3671.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3672.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
本席的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3672.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3673.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
就把 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3673.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3676.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
無人載具未來這個產業要創建 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3676.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3678.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
他所需要的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3678.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3680.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
需要解套的行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3680.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3683.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
通通都放在同一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3683.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3685.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
如果賴委員待會再回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3685.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3687.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
我還是會跟他爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3687.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3688.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
他的兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3688.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3690.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
一個是特別預算五百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3690.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3692.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
一個是產業升級條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3692.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3695.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
如果他覺得是一槓的同一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3695.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3697.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
那請他來支持本席的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3697.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3698.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
本席的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3698.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3700.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
有兩千一百億的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3700.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3701.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
比他的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3701.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3702.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
符合國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3702.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3704.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
我們國家自主防衛的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3704.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3706.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
然後產業升級的部分我也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3706.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3708.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
內容應該不亞於他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3710.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3711.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
那至於其他的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3711.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3713.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
因為我們是做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3713.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3714.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
包括民眾黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3714.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3716.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
我就不便再說什麼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3716.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3718.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
所以我還是要呼籲一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3718.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3720.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
今天的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3720.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3721.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
召委主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3721.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
是要當副總到的棋子 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3724.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3727.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
根據他們在AIT官員面前的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3727.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3729.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
保證今天一定出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3729.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3730.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
我很好奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3730.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3732.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
為什麼要跟美國的AIT官員承諾這個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3734.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3735.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
要做給誰看 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3735.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3736.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
要做給誰看 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3738.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
而且一定要在8月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3742.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3744.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
本月份本會期這個星期 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3744.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3746.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
一定會三讀完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3746.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
講得信誓旦旦 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3749 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3751 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
似乎希望自己未來到美國去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3751 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3753 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
能得到多高的層級的接待嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3755 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3755.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
還是召委也得到了這樣的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3759.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
說只要今天出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3759.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3760.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
以後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3760.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
去其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3763.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
不知道哪一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3763.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3765.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
會得到比較高規格的接待 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3766.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3767.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
無人載機是為了台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3768.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3769.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
是為了自己的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3769.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3771.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
不是為了給誰看 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3772.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3773.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
是給人民看 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3773.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3774.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
給社會看 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3775.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3776.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
現在全社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3777.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
都在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3778.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3780.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
阿烏克蘭跟俄羅斯可以撐那麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3781.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3782.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
他們的國防部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3782.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3783.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
雖然剛被撤換掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3784.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3787.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
他所要堅持的一個轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3787.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3789.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
就是透過先進的科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3789.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3792.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
結合了新創的創業家 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3792.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3793.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
在美國是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3793.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3795.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
在烏克蘭義夫是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3795.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3796.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
我們的國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3796.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3799.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
這幾年用心用力的轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3799.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3800.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
從早期 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3801.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3803.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
我在2016年進行法庭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3803.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
國防部長那時候是我們的同事 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3805.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3807.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
那時候有一個前參謀總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3807.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3808.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
李喜明 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3809.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3810.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
李將軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3811.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3813.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
他提出了一個不對稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3813.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3814.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3814.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3817.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
他提出了台灣的勝算這本書 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3818.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3820.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
這本書我還看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3820.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
讀書小組去研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3821.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3822.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
他在那本書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3823.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3824.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
擔任過當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3825.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3827.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3828.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
參謀總長 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3828.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
他的前上將 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3832.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
他說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3832.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3834.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
我們要來因應不對稱的作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
這幾年國防部也應該有看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3840.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
未來不對稱作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3840.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
在台灣海島防衛的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3845.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
所以我們除了高富大的尖端武器之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3845.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3847.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
這些大型的武器載台 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3847.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3849.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
非但我們努力的充實之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3849.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
我們也發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3853.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
應該要趕快的來發展無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3853.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
就像烏克蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3856.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
現在能夠對抗俄羅斯 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3856.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3859.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
他們依似的就是這樣的新的科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3860.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3862.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
而且台灣絕對有這個能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3862.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3864.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
台灣比烏克蘭多一個優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3864.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3867.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
但是我們沒有他的作戰的實務經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3868.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3869.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3869.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3871.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
我們不希望向烏克蘭付出犧牲 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3871.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
慘痛的犧牲 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3872.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3874.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
換到真實的戰場經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3874.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3876.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
我們可以借鏡他的真實戰場經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3876.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3878.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
但是台灣有一項烏克蘭所沒有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3878.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3880.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
就是我們的先進晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3881.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3884.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
為什麼其他的民主先進同盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3884.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3886.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
要來尋求跟台灣合作無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3887.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3889.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
無人載具最關鍵的晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3889.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3890.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
就是現在烏克蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3890.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3891.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
買了大疆的硬核 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3894.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
要把晶片拆解掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3896.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3897.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3897.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3899.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
中國同時供應俄羅斯跟烏克蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3899.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3900.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
同一組大疆 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3901.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3902.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
的載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3903.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3904.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
兩軍對抗 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3904.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3906.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
用同一個國家的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3906.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3907.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
你可以相信嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3908.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3909.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
所以烏克蘭也記著了 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3909.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3911.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
尋求跟台灣的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3911.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
透過美國的先進設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3915.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
在台灣製造封裝的晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3916.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3917.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
未來結合台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3918.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3919.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
我們的模具充壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3920.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3922.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
結合我們的射出成型 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3922.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3924.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
結合我們的精密金屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3925.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
結合我們的小型引擎 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3926.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
這些都是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
鼎鼎永鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
世界隱形冠軍的傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3932.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
都在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3933.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3935.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
中部南部比比皆是 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3935.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3936.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
彰化有 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3936.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3937.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
不是只有台中有 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3937.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3938.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
高雄有 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3938.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3939.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
其實屏東也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3940.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
這些傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
這是看準了 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3944.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
這次的商機 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3944.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3946.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
都準備大顯身手 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3947.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3948.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
為什麼以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3948.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3950.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我們既然有這麼好的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3950.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3951.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
為什麼平不過大疆 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3952.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3953.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
大疆便宜啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3954.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
人家一萬塊的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3956.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
我們要做三萬塊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3957.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
世界市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3959.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
商用的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3962.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3963.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
民用的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3963.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3964.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
它當然價格取向 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3964.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
但是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3966.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
如果要面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3967.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
武力的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3969.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
我們不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3969.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3970.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
去買一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3970.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3972.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
中國大疆一萬塊的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3972.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3973.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
來改裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3974.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3975.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
我們包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3975.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3976.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
其他的民主同盟 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3976.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3977.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
為了抵抗 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3977.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3979.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
邪惡野心軸心的對抗 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3980.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3981.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
包括伊朗 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3981.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3982.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
我們會用什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3982.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3983.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
我們寧可花三萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3984.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3985.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
跟台灣買 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3985.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3986.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
上面的晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3987.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3989.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
是有國際合作認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3991.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3992.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
不管是不 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3993.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3994.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
U.S. |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3994.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
3995.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
還是Green U.S. |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
3996 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
3997.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
至少呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
3997.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
3999.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
是一個可信賴的晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4000.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4001.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
台灣現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4001.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4002.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
正站在一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4002.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4004.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
未來無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4004.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4006.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
要振臂高飛的一個產業時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4007.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4009.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
我們有先進的晶片的製造能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4009.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4012.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
我們有去紅供應鏈的安全保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4012.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4014.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
我們有傳統產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4014.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4015.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
各項 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4015.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4016.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
機器 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4016.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4017.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
設備的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4018.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4019.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4019.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4020.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
全世界在等著 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4020.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4022.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
跟台灣下單 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4023.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4024.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4024.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4025.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
未來台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4025.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4027.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
是只能夠當國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4027.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4029.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
整機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4029.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4030.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
零組件供應商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4030.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4033.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
還是台灣有能力自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4033.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4035.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
生產整機整座 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4035.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4036.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
的無人載具系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4038.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4039.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
法案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4039.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
至關重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4041.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4042.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
本席在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4042.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4043.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
從2017年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4043.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4045.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
參與了民用航空法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4045.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4047.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
遙控無人機專章的修法以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4048.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4050.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
我們就很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4050.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4052.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
現在已經不是2017 2018 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4052.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
空拍機 農噴機的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4056.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4058.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
現在的無人載具背負的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4058.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4061.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
是面對強大武力威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4061.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4063.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
的其他民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4063.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4065.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
我們必須透過無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4065.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
來構築我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4066.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4068.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
的金鐘罩鐵布山的防禦網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4069.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4070.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
而無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4070.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
剛好就是台灣的優勢所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4074.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4076.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
如果李喜明將軍出了一本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4076.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
叫台灣的勝算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4078.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
我們應該說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4078.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4080.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
無人載具就是台灣的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4081.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4082.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
所以剛剛有委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4084.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4087.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
2030年編了2100億的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4087.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4088.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
國防部中科院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4088.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4092.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
會不會浪子 虛職 浪費 舞弊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4094.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4095.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4095.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4097.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
美國的經驗值得參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4097.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4099.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
美國的無人機優勢計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4099.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4100.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
已經發展出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4100.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4102.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
應付快速迭代的採購方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4102.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4104.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
不會是一次批量的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4104.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4105.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
全部買齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4105.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4108.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
而是在這樣的一個預算架構之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4108.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4110.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
逐步的太選廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4111.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4113.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
給予優秀的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4113.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4114.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
獲選的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4114.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4115.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
更大的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4115.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4117.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
讓他能將最新的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4117.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4119.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
供應給我們第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4119.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4121.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
保衛國家安全的官兵手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4123.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4125.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
無人載具甚至在烏克蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4127.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
第一線的作戰官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4127.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4128.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
甚至可以得到點數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4129.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4131.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
他們可以都會小額的方式自行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4132.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4134.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
向無人機的製造商下單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4134.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4136.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
然後他們如果有擊殺成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4136.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
獲得的點數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4137.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4140.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
就可以換得新購無人機的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4142.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4143.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
這個才是厲害啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4144.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4146.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
烏克蘭在實際戰爭當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4146.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4148.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
讓第一線的官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4148.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4150.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
使用無人機擊殺二軍的官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4150.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4152.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
用他們自己買來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4152.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4153.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
跟民間採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4153.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4155.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
各式各樣創新的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4156.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4158.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
去抵抗俄羅斯的侵略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4158.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
成功的就點數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
點數多的還可以獲配 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4163.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4166.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
國防部配給他更多額的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4166.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4168.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
那麼他的供應商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4168.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4170.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
也就能夠持續的研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4170.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4171.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
更好的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4171.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4172.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
給烏軍使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4175.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
這些例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4175.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
也要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4177.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
那些口口聲聲說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4177.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4178.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4179.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4180.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
每年400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4180.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4182.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
65年年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4182.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
開這種假支票的在野黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
好好地回去研究一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4188.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
烏克蘭怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4188.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
台灣未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4190.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
不需要付出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4190.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4193.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
這樣實際戰爭慘痛的犧牲教訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4193.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4194.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
我們可以學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4194.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
美國怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
美國的英國快速迭代的優勢計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4198.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
我們可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4198.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4199.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4199.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4201.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
我們的前線官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4201.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4202.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
我們的國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4202.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4204.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
需要真正的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4204.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4205.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
不要假支票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4207.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
我要真採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4209.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4210.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
不要假支票 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4210.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
也希望未來的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4213.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
接下來召委主席的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4213.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
可以把727 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4217.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4217.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4219.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
這兩個魔術數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4219.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
從你的心中抹掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
那個換不到任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
民間人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
專業社團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
對本委員會審查法案品質的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4229.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4231.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4233.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
謝謝鍾嘉斌的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4236.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4238.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
本人沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4238.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4239.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
本都是獨立個體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4240.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4241.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
認識我的人大概知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4241.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4242.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
我都是很自主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4242.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4243.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
沒有受人控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4243.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4244.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4246.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4248.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
我只有中華民國的護照 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
我2000年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4250.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
1999年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4251.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4252.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
在擔任外商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4252.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
我去過的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4254.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4255.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
也沒有任何需要靠美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4260.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
所以這個請你放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4262.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4263.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4263.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4265.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
來自產業我就回產業而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4265.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4267.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
產業的世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4267.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4268.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
是不受這些的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4268.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4270.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
只要你有實力都可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4271.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
來接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4272.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4274.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
我們請賴瑞榮委員做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4282.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
今天我們來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4288.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
國防自主無人載具的採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4288.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
那我們也要再次的強調從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
二戰爭跟進行的中共戰爭都看得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4296.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
無人機無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4296.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4298.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
扮演重要的一個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4298.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4300.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
然後他對於不對稱的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4300.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4302.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4302.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4304.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
那這關乎到台灣的國家安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4304.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4306.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
也關乎到台灣的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4306.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
而從這幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4311.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
台灣的無人載具也大幅的成長的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4311.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4313.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
那這時候如果能夠透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4313.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4315.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
政府用一筆的預算支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4315.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4319.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
而且透過國防部的整個採購的訂單的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4319.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4322.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
他不僅能夠強化我們國防的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4322.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4324.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
嚇阻任何敵對勢力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4324.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4326.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
想要對台灣的一個威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4326.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4330.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
同時間也能夠讓台灣的本土的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4330.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4332.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
有那個機會升級的一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4332.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
同時因為有訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4333.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4334.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
穩定的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4334.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4336.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
而能夠讓我們的產業更穩健的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4336.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4339.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
所以我們也呼籲朝野的各政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4342.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
大家一起來支持我們的國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4342.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4344.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
一起來支持我們的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4344.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4347.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
能夠來通過行政院版本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4347.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4351.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
國防自主無人載具採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4351.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4353.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
那特別裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4353.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4355.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
我們也認為其實應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4355.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4357.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
以國防部為主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4357.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4360.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
主管機關應該以國防部為主軸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4360.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4362.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
因為這個的關鍵來自於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4362.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4366.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
國防部來自於國防的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4366.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4367.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
而且我們也認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4367.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4370.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
應該要一次透過特別預算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4370.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4371.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
一次編組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4371.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4375.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
讓我們用最快的時間能夠取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4375.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4377.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
無人機無人艇這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4377.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4379.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
讓台灣用最短的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4379.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4381.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
得到最強的一個戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4381.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4385.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
來嚇阻敵軍任何有侵略台灣的一個意圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4385.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4388.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
我想從過去不管是二戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4388.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4389.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
中東戰爭都看出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4389.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4391.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
無人機扮演了非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4391.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4393.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
以小及大成功的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4393.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4395.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
同時間這也是關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4395.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4397.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
在國防部的一層戰力裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4397.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4398.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
最好的一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4398.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4400.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
所以我們希望朝野能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4400.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4403.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
國防部這個行政院這樣的一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4403.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4404.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
支持國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4404.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4405.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
同時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4405.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4406.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
這樣的大量的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4406.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4408.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
一次用特別預算來編組的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4408.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4411.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
也能夠讓我們的業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4411.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4412.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
能夠用最短的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4412.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4414.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
能夠提升我們整體產業的實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4414.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4417.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
那這也是在公聽會上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4417.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4418.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
業者們的心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4418.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4420.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
也希望能夠一次編組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4420.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4422.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
而不是一次一次編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4422.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4424.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
那我們都會擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4424.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4425.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
一次一次編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4425.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4427.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
到底下一次他們預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4427.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4428.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
充滿了不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4428.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4431.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
這個不僅對於國防的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4431.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4434.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
籌組這樣的無人載具有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4434.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4436.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
同時間對我們的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4436.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4437.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
也是不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4437.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4440.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
也不利於我們產業整體的布局跟發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4440.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4442.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
那大家全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4442.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4444.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
都在支持無人載具的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4444.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4447.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
台灣更是具有一些優勢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4447.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4448.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
那我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4448.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4450.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
透過整個政府的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4450.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4451.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
全力的來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4451.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4453.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
一次用特別預算來編組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4453.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4454.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
來支持國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4454.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4456.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
同時一次編組來支持產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4456.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4458.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
那當然我們也再次的呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4458.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4461.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
除了這些無人機無人艇之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4461.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4463.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
另外也建議要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4463.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4465.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
加列一些其他的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4465.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4468.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
讓更多未來趨勢上面發展的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4468.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4471.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
我們能夠儘速的來補足進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4471.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4473.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
那未來這樣不對稱的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4473.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4475.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
我們需要更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4475.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4477.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
我們的無人機無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4477.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4479.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
一起來支持我們的國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4479.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
支持我們的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4482.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
那也希望在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4482.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4484.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
能夠把這樣的其他的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4484.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4485.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
也納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4485.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
避免未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4486.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4488.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
持續性的做一些修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4488.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4490.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
那我們最後還是要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4490.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4492.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
希望大家忠於國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4492.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4494.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
忠於人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4494.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4496.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
這個無人機無人艇無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4496.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4498.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
對台灣非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4498.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
同時間全世界民主國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4500.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
也都支持台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4502.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
唯一會反對大概只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
對台灣有侵略意圖的中共而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
唯一有支持台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4509.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
唯有支持我們的國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4509.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4511.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
唯有支持我們的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4511.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4512.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
唯有支持我們的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4512.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4515.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
我相信這是台灣人民共同的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4515.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4517.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
那也希望大家一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4517.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4518.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
支持我們的國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4518.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4520.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
支持我們的台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4520.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4523.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
支持我們的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4523.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4525.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
忠於國家忠於人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4525.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4527.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
希望各位朝野立委一起努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4529.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4529.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4529.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4530.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
來月龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4531.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4534.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
那麼現在進行足條討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4534.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4536.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
請議事人員宣讀所有條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4536.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4538.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
六月薛政東以及附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4538.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4540.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4540.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
宣讀完畢後再進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4543.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4545.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4546.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
法案名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4546.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4547.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4547.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4550.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
國防自主無人載具採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4550.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4551.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
國民黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4551.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4553.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
國防自主無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4553.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4556.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
科技發展及採購條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4556.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4557.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4557.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4559.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
強化國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4559.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4563.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
暨無人產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4563.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4565.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
委員林楚英委員陳樹月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4565.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4567.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
委員蔡玉宇委員林楚英 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4567.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4569.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
委員吳思陽委員賴瑞榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4569.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4571.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
委員李坤城等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4571.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4573.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
軍統行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4573.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4575.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
委員賴思寶等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4575.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4577.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
國防戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4577.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4580.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
國外採購技術合作特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4580.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4582.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
委員賴思寶等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4583.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4585.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
無人載具產業升級發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4585.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4587.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
委員鍾佳斌等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4587.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4592.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
國防自主無人載具採購技產業創建特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4592.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4593.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
委員王定宇等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4593.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4595.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
同委員鍾佳斌等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4596.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4598.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4599.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4604.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
提案第一條面對敵情威脅日益嚴峻及新型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4604.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4606.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
新型態戰爭趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4606.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4612.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
為建置國軍大量無人載具執行偵查及精準攻擊等任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4612.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
同時厚植國防產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4616.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
打造飛鴻供應鏈提升嚇阻能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4616.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4619.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
確保國家安全及國防自主能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4619.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4620.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4620.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4622.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
國民黨提議案第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4622.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4625.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
為因應新世代科技戰爭形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4625.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4628.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
強化臺灣國防支部對稱戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4628.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4632.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
推動軍民通用科技雙向轉移 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4632.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4637.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
引導民間卓越知識通訊與經濟機械產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4637.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4639.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
投入國防產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4639.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4643.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
落實國防自主與產業升級之雙重效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4643.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4645.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
並建立符合民主供應鏈標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4645.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4646.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4647.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
高風險供應鏈特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
臺灣民政黨團提案第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
為接軌先進空中交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
充實國防自主能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
廣納民間技術帶動臺灣無人機產業升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4665.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
協助本土業者利用產業垂直分工與產業聚落優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4665.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4672.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
進入國際可信任供應鏈和提升軍民通用技術及產業轉型發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4672.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4673.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4673.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4675.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
本條例為規定者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4678.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
委員林楚英 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4680.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
委員陳樹葉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4680.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
委員蔡玉宇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4682.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
委員林楚英 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4682.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4683.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
委員吳詩瑤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4686.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4688.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
委員宗教兵等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4688.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4689.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
軍同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4689.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4690.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
委員賴瑞榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4691.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4692.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
委員林楚英 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4693.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4694.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
第三句 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4694.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4700.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
同時發展軍民兩用科技建立自主生產能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4700.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4701.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
打造飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4701.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4702.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
提升嚇阻能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4702.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4703.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
發展民生經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4703.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4705.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
確保國家安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4705.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4709.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
國人生命財產安全及國防自主能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4709.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4710.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
與同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4710.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4712.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
委員賴思保等人提案第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4712.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4716.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
面對國防安全情勢日益嚴峻及新型態戰爭趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4716.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4719.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
為強化我國情報監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4719.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4722.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
精準打擊之多層嚇阻能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4722.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4727.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
並結合美國及其他國家之先進戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4727.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4729.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
服役技術移轉及工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4729.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4733.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
提升我國無人載具產業自主研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4733.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4737.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
產製及維修能量確保國家安全與國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4738.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
自主特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4742.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
委員賴思保等人提案第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4742.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4748.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
為促進我國無人載具產業技術自主產業升級及國際競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4748.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
推動無人機自動駕駛車輛無人水面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4752.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4756.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
及水下載具及相關智慧載具之研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4756.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4760.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
製造與商業應用成為帶動經濟轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4760.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4763.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
之關鍵產業特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4763.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
委員李昆城等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4765.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4772.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
拒守面對境外對勢力威脅日益嚴峻及其新型態戰爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4773.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4775.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
趨勢與同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4775.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
為因應國防安全威脅後時不對稱作戰能力與災防韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4787.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
建構我國無人載具自主及安全可信賴支供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4787.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4792.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
帶動居民通用技術及產業轉型發展特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4793.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4795.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
委員賴世保等人提案第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4795.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4798.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
無人載具產業發展依本條例之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4798.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4802.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
本條例未規定者適用其他有關法律之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4802.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4808.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
但其他法律規定較本條例更有利者適用最有利之法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4813.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
行政院提案第二條本條例之主管機關為國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4813.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4817.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
國民黨提案第二條本條例之主管機關為經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4817.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4821.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
本條例所稱主辦機關為經濟部國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4821.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
本條例涉及國防採購研發補助關鍵技術進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
資安審查及測試場域化設等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
由主管機關會同國防部及有關機關共同辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
民眾黨團提案第三條本條例之中央主管機關為經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4841.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
涉及國防運用事項為國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4841.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4843.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
地方主管機關為直轄縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4843.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
本條例及飛航安全空域管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
資通安全頻率使用政府採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4853.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
緊正消防防災農業海巡環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4854.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4859.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
關鍵基礎設施地方場域或其他目的事業事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4859.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4863.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
由中央各目的事業主管機關依全責辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4863.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4869.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
委員林楚英委員陳樹月委員蔡玉宇委員林依瑾委員吳思瑤委員賴瑞榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4869.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4872.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
委員李坤城委員鍾嘉斌等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4874.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
同行政院提案委員賴世寶等人提案第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
除第二項本條例所技術移轉工業合作及產業升級事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4885.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
由國防部會同經濟部辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4885.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4888.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
並得邀及國家科學及技術委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4888.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4893.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
國家中山科學研究院及相關法人業界協同推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4893.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4896.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
與同行政院提案委員賴世寶等人提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4896.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4902.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
本條例主管機關為經濟部並設五人載具產業發展推動委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4902.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4904.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
統籌跨部會協調事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4904.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4908.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
本條例所設四項依其業務性質 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4908.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4912.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
由交通部、國防部、農業部、環境部、國家科學及技術委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4912.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4917.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
財政部及其他中央目的事業主管機關依職長辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4917.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4922.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
本條例所稱中央主管機關為經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4922.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4925.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
設其國防軍用採購四項為國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4926.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
行政院提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
本條例所稱國防自主無人載具採購只主管機關及其所屬其官購部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
辦理經行政院核定採購第四條所訂項目之主要裝備系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
於其資源系統之獲得產自維修工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4947.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4950.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
國民黨提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4971.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
本條例所稱中央主管機關為經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4974.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4975.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
設其國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4975.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4980.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
行政院核定採購只主管機關及其所屬其官購部隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4980.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
辦理經行政院核定採購第四條所訂項目之主要裝備系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4988.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
於其資源系統之獲得產自維修工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4988.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4991.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
於其資源系統之獲得產自維修工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4991.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4994.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
於其資源系統之獲得產自維修工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4994.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4997.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
於其資源系統之獲得產自維修工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4973.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4975.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4975.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
二軍用商規無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4982.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
只以商用規格之零組件為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4982.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4985.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
依軍事需求進行適應性改良 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4985.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4987.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
並符合一定干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4988.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4994.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
抗干擾、抗電池脈衝及戰場存活率標準之無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4994.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4996.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
三軍民公用測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4996.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
5000.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
由國防部、會同地方政府及產業界共同設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
5000.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
5007.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
公軍方及民間業者共同使用之無人載具飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
5007.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
5010.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
航空及作戰模擬測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
5010.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
5012.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
視國防國產化比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
5012.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
5016.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
指無人載具於設計、製造、組裝及關鍵零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
5016.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
5020.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
供應過程中原自台灣本土廠商資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
5020.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
5021.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
指比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
5022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
臺灣民眾黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5025.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5025.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5030.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
本條例所指無人機指無人飛機、無人直升機、無人多懸翼機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5030.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5035.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
以及其他經交通部民用航空局公告者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5035.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5037.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
本條例所稱無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5037.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5042.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
指從事全機系統整合、飛行載具模組、動力模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5042.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5046.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
籌載模組、通訊模組、地面導控模組、飛控模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5047.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
與相關服務應用資產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5057.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
本條例所稱可信任供應鏈指無人機系統及其關鍵零組件原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5057.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
其來源供應及管理符合主管機關所訂製安全要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5069.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
並符合主管機關公告之可信任供應鏈分級認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5069.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5073.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
委員林楚英、委員陳樹月、委員蔡玉瑜、委員林怡錦、委員吳思堯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5073.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5077.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
委員賴瑞榮、委員李坤城、委員鍾嘉斌等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5077.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5079.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
軍統行政院提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5079.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5081.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
委員賴世保等人提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5081.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
本戰略所稱國防戰略無人載具採購指主管機關及其所屬機關構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5096.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
部隊辦理第四條所訂項目之主要裝備系統與其資源系統之獲得產製共同生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5096.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5105.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
維修工程訓練及與其一並取得之技術移轉與工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5105.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5112.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
前項採購以美國或與其他國家所產製或授權之裝備為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5112.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5118.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
其每以採購均應加付技術移轉及工業合作條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5118.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5120.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
委員賴世保等人提案第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5120.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5122.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
本條律用詞定義如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5122.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5127.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
一無人載具產業指研發設計製造整合測試及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5127.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5132.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
微運無人機自動駕駛車輛無人水面及水下載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5132.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5135.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
無人地面載具及其核心零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5135.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5140.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
感測模組、非控軟體、邊緣運算平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5140.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5147.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
遠端操控系統相關服務平台及其他金主管機關公告之智慧載具之產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5147.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5154.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
二無人載具公司指無人載具產業依公司法設立之公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5154.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5157.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
從事下列業務之一並經主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5158.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5160.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
機關審定者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5160.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5166.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
一研發製造無人機自動駕駛車輛無人水面及水下載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5166.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5169.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
核心零組件及創建技術平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5169.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5172.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
二受託開發製造生產節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5173.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5179.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
一目所列無人載具及其策略性無人載具產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5179.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5187.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
三無人機指無線電遙控自動程式控制或人工智慧自主控制方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5187.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5191.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
於空中飛行且不搭載駕駛員之航空機具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5191.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5196.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
四自動駕駛車輛指搭載系統駕駛系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5196.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
一SAA分級達level3以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5206.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
於特定或全區域路況下不需人工介入即可自行自主行駛之車輛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5206.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5212.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
無人水面及水下載具指以遠端操控或自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5214.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5220.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
導航方式於水面或水下航行且不需搭載駕駛員之船舶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5221.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5227.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
六核心零組件與系統指飛行控制器感測融合模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5227.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5233.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
邊緣AI運算單元高精度定位模組電池與動力系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5233.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5237.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
低延遲通訊模組及自動避障系統等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5237.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5244.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
七智慧載具創新技術平台指專門應用於無人載具之開發測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5244.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5251.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
驗證或受託製造具高度研發風行關鍵及創新性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5254.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5258.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
前項第二款無人載具公司之審定要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5258.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5264.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
應被文件程序審定之撤銷或廢止其他相關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5265.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
此次辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5267.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5273.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第二條本條例所稱無人載具只具備自動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5274.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5289.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
控航遙控或自主運作能力之無人飛行載具無人水面載具無人水下載具無人地面載具或其他經中央主管機關公告指定之載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5290.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5301.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
前項無人載具之範圍包含其關鍵零組件通訊模組次系統控制軟體系統者合集維修服務但不包含太空發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5302.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5307.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
法所定所定之發設載具及太空航距 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5310.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5311.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5316.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
行政院提案第四條本條例所定國防自主無人載具採購之項目如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5316.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5317.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5317.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5322.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
濱海偵測行無人機二濱海攻擊行無人機三自行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5323.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5330.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
小型自殺無人機國民黨團提案第十六條前條預算之支用以下列項目違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5330.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5331.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5331.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5340.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
軍用無人載具之採購產製維修工程及訓練二軍民共用場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5340.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5346.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
測試場域之設置及維運費用三產業聚落發展及中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5346.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5347.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5347.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5350.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
行政院提案第十六條本條例所定的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5350.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5351.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5351.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5360.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具及相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5363.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5364.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5366.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
委員陳樹月委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5367.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5376.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
委員林怡瑾委員吳思瑤委員李坤誠委員鍾佳斌等提案軍統行政院提案第四條委員蔡玉宇等人提案第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5377.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5380.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
申請註冊第四款無人載具相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5381.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具及相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5388.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5388.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5400.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5400.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5409.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5409.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5411.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5411.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5412.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5412.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5414.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5414.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5416.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5416.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
國內研發生產及製造之無人載具與相關系統並兼顧技術自主供應鏈安全及國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5419.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
委員您處因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5419.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5422.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
其他無人載具與同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5422.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5424.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
委員戴世保等人提案第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5424.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5428.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
本條例所訂國防戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5428.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5429.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5429.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
已具備下列一款或數款作戰能力之無人載具系統及其資源裝備為範疇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
依高空航空 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5439.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5444.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
高空長航時廣域情報監視及偵測能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5444.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5445.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5445.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5447.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
精準打擊目標定位或電子作戰能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5447.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
廣域海域或空域持續監控及反潛能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5453.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
四 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5453.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5457.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
有人無人協同作戰及任務自主能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5457.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
五 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5462.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
其他具備戰略價值之先進無人載具能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5462.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5467.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
前項各款所須知兼指揮管制與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5468.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5471.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
情偵測整合系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5471.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5478.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
衛星資料鏈地面管制戰及感測籌載得以並納入採購範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5479.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5481.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
才購置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5481.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5485.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
具體品項數量及優先順序由主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
建軍備戰需求聯邦技術可獲得性及國內產業產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5497.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
機場接能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5500.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5511.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
行政院提案第五條本條例所需經費上限為新臺幣2100億以特別預算方式編列及預算編制不受預算法第23條不得充經常性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5512.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5522.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
支出規定限制前項所需經費來源得以移用以前年度最寄剩餘或舉借債務方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5522.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5536.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
其年度舉借債務之額度不受公司公共債務法第五條第七項規定之限制中央政府總預算及本條本特別預算與本條例施行期間之舉債額度合計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5536.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5552.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
不得超過該期間總預算及特別預算稅出總額合計數之50%本條例施行期間中央政府舉借之一年以上公共債務未償餘額預算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5552.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5556.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
因依本公共債務法第五條第一項規定辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5556.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5558.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
國民黨提案第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5558.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5580.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
為建立長期穩健之無人載具產業發展及國防建設機制特殊特殊持續推動無人載具產業發展強化國防自主能量建構安全可信任之供應鏈體系及提升國際競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5580.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5583.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
中央政府應循每年預算程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5584.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5590.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
每年編制新臺幣400億元連續編列6年總額為新臺幣2400億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5590.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5596.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
委員林楚雲等人提案委員陳樹月等人提案委員蔡玉宇等人提案委員李怡菁等人提案委員吳思瑤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5598.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5600.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
等人提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5600.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5606.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
委員李坤城等人提案委員鍾嘉斌等人提案軍同行政院提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5607.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5609.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
委員賴瑞榮等人提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5609.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5615.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
拒守新臺幣為2400億元與同行政院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5616.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
委員賴世保等人提案第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
本條例所需經費上限為新臺幣500億元以特別預算方式編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5628.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
其預算編制不受預算法第23條不得充經償 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5629.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5642.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
支出規定之限制前項經費應依第五條第四項規定提撥不低於10%專攻技術移轉接收產業化及維修量能建立之用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5642.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
第四項同行政院提案第2項及第3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5647.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5649.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5649.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5658.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
中央主管機關國防部或目的事業主管機關得依本條例辦理各項產業扶植與採購需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5658.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
其所需經費以特別預算方式編列及預算編制不受預算法第23條規定之限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5668.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
非經立法院同意不得相互留用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5669.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5672.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
前項產業扶植與採購需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5672.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
之辦理採一年一期方式編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5678.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
期滿後續預算及期成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5678.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
經立法院同意後分期辦理預算籌編及審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5684.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5689.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
第3項及第4項同行政院提案第2項及第3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5691.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5693.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
行政院提案第6條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5693.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5698.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
本條例所列預算之執行審計機關應依法辦理審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5698.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5700.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
委員林楚英 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5700.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5701.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
委員陳樹月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5701.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5702.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
委員蔡玉瑜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5702.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5703.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
委員林怡瑾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5703.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5704.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
委員吳思堯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5704.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5705.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
委員賴瑞榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5706.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5707.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
委員李昆辰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5707.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
委員鍾佳斌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5709.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5709.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
軍同行政院提案第6條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5711.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5713.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5713.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5717.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
本條例所列預算之執行應依下列規定辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5717.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5721.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
1審計機關應依法辦理審計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5721.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5724.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
2主管機關應依預算法第63條辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5725.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5726.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
劉詠潔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5727.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
非經立法院同意不得留用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5734.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
主管機關應專案列管及考核本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5734.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5736.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
所列計畫之執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5736.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5739.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
並將執行進度及績效美會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5739.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5742.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
其向立法院提出專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5742.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5745.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
本機關及其上級機關應依法執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5745.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5747.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
並落實監督機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5747.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5749.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
本條例施行屆滿之日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5749.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5751.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
次年5月底前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5751.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
主管機關應就其 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5753.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5754.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
實施成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5754.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5756.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
作成總報告並送立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5759.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
委員國民黨提案第4條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5765.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
國防部應依量大駕聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5765.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5768.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
智慧化分布式支援則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5768.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5772.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
訂立無人載具防衛體系之中長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5772.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5773.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
發展目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5773.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5775.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
應每2年滾動檢討一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5775.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5779.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
並依臺海安全情勢變化及國際先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5780.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5782.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
國家之發展趨勢調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5782.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5785.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
經濟部應會同國防部每年向立法院提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5785.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5788.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
無人載具提升國防戰力產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5788.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5791.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
科技創新及經濟效益階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5791.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5792.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
性發展報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5794.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5796.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
臺灣民眾黨團提案第5條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5796.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5800.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
經濟部應會同相關機關每4年提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5800.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5802.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
無人產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5802.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5805.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
並每2年檢討修正涉及國防運用事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5805.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5807.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
應會同國防部進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5807.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5810.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
前項綱領應載明下列事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5810.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5813.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
1.產業發展綱領及關鍵技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5813.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5815.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
期效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5815.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5819.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
2.關鍵技術自主化及國產化目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5819.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5823.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
3.先進空中運輸及運用發展策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5823.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5826.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
4.可信任供應鏈推動策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5826.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5829.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
5.法規調適及跨部會分工事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5829.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5832.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
6.國內市場、國際市場及外銷目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5832.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5835.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
7.期仍採培育及產學合作策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5836.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5839.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
8.經費需求、財源規劃及預期效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5839.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5842.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
第一項所稱無人產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5842.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5847.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
應經國家無人機產業發展戰略特別委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5847.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5850.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
審議通過並經行政院核定後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5850.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5852.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
應送立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
國民黨提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
無人載具防衛體系之規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
應遵循分佈、分佈、分佈適任性原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
避免集中分佈或集中產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
1.無人載具之生產基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5872.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
應分佈於至少三個不同縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5872.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
不得集中於單一地理區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5878.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
以降低遭受集中打擊之風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5878.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
2.無人載具之戰備儲存 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5882.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
應分散於不同據點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5882.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
單一據點儲存量不得超過總佔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5887.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5889.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
儲存量至25% |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5889.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5891.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
3.無人載具之操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5891.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5893.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
及指揮系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5893.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5896.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
應建立分散式備員架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5896.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5899.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
確保單點實能不致癱瘓整體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5900.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5901.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
作戰能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5902.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5904.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
國民黨提案第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5904.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5906.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
國防部應會同地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5906.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5908.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
於本條例施行後一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5908.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
於本條例第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5909.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5912.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
鎖定不同地理區域規劃至少三處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5912.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5914.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
均民共用測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5914.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5917.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
供軍方民間業者共同使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5917.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5919.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
進行無人載具之非控 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5920.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5921.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
航空 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5921.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5923.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
抗干擾及作戰模擬測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5923.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5925.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
臺灣民眾黨團提案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5925.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5928.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
經濟部應會同相關機關及地方主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5928.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5930.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
化設無人機測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5931.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5933.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
測試走廊及示範區 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5933.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5939.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
國防部應盤點適當軍事演習或軍事訓練場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5939.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5943.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
作為軍用無人機系統專門測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
於前二項場域進行創新實驗者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
中央主管機關得排除或調整部分法規限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
並建立飛行操作安全及性能資料回饋機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
作為法規修正及產業推動之依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5961.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
委員賴思堡等人提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5961.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5964.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
為加速無人載具產品商業化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5965.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5968.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
主管機關及各中央目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5968.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5972.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
應依據無人載具科技創新實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5972.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5976.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
輔導無人載具公司於指定尖離沙盒範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5976.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5978.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
進行實驗性飛行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5980.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5985.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
行駛或航行並建立配套之測驗場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5985.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5990.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
提供電池干擾測試環境適應測試及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5990.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5995.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
飛安驗證等服務主管機關及中央目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5995.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5997.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
事業主管機關對於無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
6003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
載具產品上市前所需通過之行事認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
6003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
6007.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
軟體驗證資安檢測飛航 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
6007.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
6012.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
四航審查等應訂定公開透明之流程及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
6012.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
6018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
藝人化審查制度並應建立專業審查能量及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
6018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
6022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
精進相關審查規範為強化無人載具技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
6022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
6027.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
引進及輿轉由政府捐助成立之技術輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
6027.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
6030.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
單位應配合提供技術輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
6030.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
6032.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
委員宗家兵的人提案第12條委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
6032.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
6036.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
應會同相關目的事業主管機關與本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
6036.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
6041.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
實施期限內積極化設或指定無人載具專屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
6041.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
6046.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
之入獄水域及空域實證測試場域並建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
6046.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
6051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
通訊導航及其他相關之基礎設施前相 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
6051.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
6057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
測試場域得跨越2以上直轄縣市行政區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
6057.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
6062.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
或其臨接海域並得以連接2以上場域之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
6062.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
6068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
測試走廊形態化設之委員會化設前兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
6068.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
6073.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
項測試場域或測試走廊時應會商該管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
6073.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
6077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
直轄縣市政府及相關目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
6077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
6082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
該管直轄縣市政府相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
6083.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
6087.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
機關應配合辦理第一項測試場域之設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
6087.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
6092.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
基準與管理及第二項創新實驗之申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
6092.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
6096.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
要件審查程序安全維護及風險控管計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
6096.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
6101.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
賠償損失局保險機制資訊安全規範實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
6101.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
6105.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
期間延展變更費止及其他應遵循事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
6105.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
6109.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
之辦法由委員會會同相關目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
6109.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
6110.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
6110.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
6112.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
委員王定宇等人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
6113.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
6118.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
第十一條除增加第二項於前項測試場域內進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
6118.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
6122.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
無人載具之創新實驗經中央目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
6122.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
6126.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
經中央主管機關會商相關目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
6126.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
6129.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
審查核准者與核准之期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
6129.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
6135.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
實驗期限及範圍內不得不受下列法律及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
6135.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
6140.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
其授權訂定之法規命令一部或全部之限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
6140.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
6145.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
依民用航空法有關航空汽車制製造登記檢驗人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
6146.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
6148.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
測驗及飛航管制製規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
6148.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
6153.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
二傳播法及船員法有關傳播檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
6153.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
6157.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
帳糧設備航行限制及人員配置制規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
6157.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
6163.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
三道路交通管理處罰條例及公路法有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
6164.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
6168.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
車輛檢驗、牌照登記、駕駛執照及行駛路線之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
6168.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
6178.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
四、電信管理法有關無線電頻率使用電信網路設置及設平器材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
6179.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
6185.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
管制規定五、其他經中央主管機關會商相關目的事業主管機關指定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
6185.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
6189.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
並公告排除適用之法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
6189.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
6193.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
與同委員宗嘉斌等人提案第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
6194.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
6196.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
國民黨團體案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
6196.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
6201.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
軍用無人載具資採購應訂定國產化比例目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
6201.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
6204.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
並依下列期程逐步提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
6204.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
6208.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
一、本條例施行後兩年內軍用商規無人機資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
6208.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
6211.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
國產化比例達50%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
6211.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
6216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
二、本條例施行後四年內軍用商規無人機資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
6216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
6219.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
國產化比例達80%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
6219.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
6225.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
無人停機地面無人載具資國產化比例達70%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
6225.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
6230.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
前項國產化比例之計算應以零組件產值佔比 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
6232.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
6236.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
產值佔整機產值之比例為基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
6236.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
6239.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
由經濟部會同國防部訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
6239.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
6240.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
定計算辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
6241.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
6243.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
國民黨提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
6243.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
6248.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
對投入無人載具關鍵化零組件國產化之優良業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
6248.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
6250.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
經濟部得卓與獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
6250.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
6252.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
前項獎勵得以下列方式為之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
6252.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
6253.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
一、捐補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
6253.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
6255.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
二、資金、技術、投資或授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
6255.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
6256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
三、優先採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
6256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
6259.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
四、提供融資及優惠利率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
6259.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
6265.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
前兩項獎勵時機對象條件基準及其他相關事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
6265.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
6269.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
由主管機關會商相關機關訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
6278.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
6280.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
委員宗嘉斌等人提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
6280.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
6285.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
為促進我國無人載具產業發展及提升國際競爭力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
6285.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
6288.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
委員會得辦理或補助下列事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
6288.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
6295.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
依無人載具及其關鍵零組件次系統之前瞻研發製造與 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
6295.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
6298.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
系統整合二產業所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
6299.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
6303.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
產業所專業人才之培訓延攬及產學合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
6303.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
6305.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
三、資金籌措信用保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
6306.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
6308.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
國內外市場脫銷之協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
6308.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
6311.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
四、自主檢驗測試國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
6312.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
6315.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
認證量能及共同測試平台之建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
6315.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
6318.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
五、供應鏈風險評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
6318.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
6321.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
韌性整合標準制定及國際合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
6321.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
6327.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
六、會商相關政府基金或目的事業主管機關進行投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
6327.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
6332.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
前項辦理或補助之對象申請資格審查基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
6332.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
6339.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
補助額度績效評估查核機制及其他因遵循事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
6339.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
6341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
由委員會訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
6341.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
6343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
6343.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
6346.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
同委員鍾嘉斌等人提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
6346.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
6348.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
國民黨提案第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
6348.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
6356.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
政府為特別輔助與中小企業及創新企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
6356.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
6361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
得由國家發展基金會共同民間資金共同投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
6361.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
6363.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
國民黨提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
6363.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
6369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
主管機關每年對無人載具相關預算之效益進行評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
6369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
6371.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
評估內容應包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
6371.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
6376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
一、無人載具採購預算之本土產業產值效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
6376.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
6381.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
二、創造之科技就業機會數量及薪資水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
6381.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
6387.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
三、衍生之名用商業化應用及外銷產值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
6387.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
6394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
評估報告應送立法院備查並得應邀列席報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
6394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
6396.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
國民黨提案第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
6399.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
6403.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
數位發展部應會同國防部於本條例施行後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
6403.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
6407.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
一年內制定無人載具治安標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
6407.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
6412.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
明定下列關鍵零組件不得使用原製 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
6412.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
6416.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
經行政院公告之高風險地區供應商之軟硬體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
6416.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
6423.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
一、飛行控制系統含其韌體與動力控制中樞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
6423.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
6426.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
二、通訊模組及資料鏈系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
6426.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
6431.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
三、影像感測器及其影像晶片處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
6432.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
6436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
四、導航定位系統晶片含導控軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
6436.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
6442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
五、電池管理系統前向高風險地區供應商之認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
6442.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
6444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
由行政院一、國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
6443.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
6446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
安全考量公告並定期檢討更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
6446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
6449.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
委員賴世保等人提案第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
6449.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
6454.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
無人載具公司所生產或進口之無人載具產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
6454.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
6458.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
其資訊安全防護韌體更新機制及資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
6460.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
6462.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
通訊加密標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
6462.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
6465.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
應符合主管機關公告之安全基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
6465.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
6467.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
並取得相應認證後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
6467.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
6471.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
使得於國內商業銷售或提供服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
6471.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
6475.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
使用具有資安疑慮之境外無人載具及其核心零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
6475.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
6478.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
於政府機關或關鍵基礎設施者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
6478.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
6480.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
意義通訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
6480.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
6486.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
安全管理法相關規定辦理主管機關得匯同國防部國家安全局公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
6486.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
6487.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
禁止或使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
6487.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
6490.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
或禁止使用之無人載具相關清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
6490.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
6494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
前二項相關安全基準認證程序及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
6494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
6497.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
禁止或限制使用之品項認定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
6497.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
6499.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
由主管機關匯同中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
6501.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6503.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
目的事業主管機關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6507.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
國民黨提案第十二條無人載具業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6507.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6509.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
欲申請國產化獎勵措施者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6509.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6513.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
應通過數位發展部匯同國防部建立之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6513.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6516.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
供應鏈安全認證認證內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6516.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6521.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
應包括一關鍵零組件來源之可追溯性聲明之機何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6521.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6525.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
二軟體原始碼及韌體資安檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6525.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6529.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
確保無二軟硬體後門或 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6529.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6534.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
未經授權資資料回傳機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6534.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6539.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
三供應鏈中斷風險評估及備援供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6539.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6543.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
雙規劃通過前項認證職業者數位發展部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6543.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
應發給有效期兩年之認證證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6549.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
並公告於官方網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6549.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6553.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
作為國際合作夥伴信任評估之參考依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6553.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6555.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
國民黨提案第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6555.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6559.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
主管機關應與國家安全與國際合作 |
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6559.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6563.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
救無人載具技術研發零組件供應及聯合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6563.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6567.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
測試驗證進行合作並依下列原則推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6567.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6572.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
一優先於以建立資安標準之國際夥伴 |
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6572.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6575.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
進行技術交流及聯合研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6575.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
二推動臺灣業者通過國際夥伴之供應鏈 |
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6580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6582.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
安全認證與標準 |
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6582.06 |
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6583.06 |
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與標準 |
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6583.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6586.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
制定創造外銷商機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6586.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6592.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
三提升臺灣在全球無人載具產業供應鏈之關鍵地位 |
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6592.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6594.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
國民黨提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6594.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6599.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
業者與供應鏈安全認證程序中提供虛偽資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6599.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
或經查或使用未經認證之高風險地區零組件者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6607.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
數位發展部應撤銷其認證資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6607.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
並通知主管機關終止其參與採購及國際化獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6615.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
措施之資格期限不少於三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6615.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6617.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
國民黨提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6617.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6621.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
經濟部應會同國防部於每年三月三十一日前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6621.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6623.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
向行政院及立法院提出 |
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6623.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6627.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
前一年度無人載具國防科技發展執行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6627.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6635.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
內容應包括無人載具各類別量產目標達成情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6635.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6637.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
二國產化比例之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6641.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6644.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
達成情形三供應鏈安全認證之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6644.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
核發及撤銷情形四採購執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
進行重大缺失及改善措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6651.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
國民黨提案第十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6653 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6657 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
採具採購案金額超過新臺幣一億元者主辦機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6657 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6661 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
應於絕標後三十日內向立法院提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6661 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6663 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
國民黨提案第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6663 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6668 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
主管機關應每三年委託獨立學術機構或研究單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6668 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6675 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
對臺灣無人載具防衛體系之整體戰略產業發展成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6675 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6678 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
及國際競爭力評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6678 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6682 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
評估報告於不涉及國防機密之範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6682 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6684 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
應公開發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6684 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6686 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6686 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6690 |
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行政院應設置國家無人機產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6690.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6692.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6692.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6696.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
行政院應設置國家無人機產業發展成效及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6696.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6698.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
國際競爭力評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6698.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6700.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6700.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6704.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
行政院應設置國家無人機產業發展成效及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6704.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6706.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
國際競爭力評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6706.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6708.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6708.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
行政院應設置國家無人機產業發展成效及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6712.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6714.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
國際競爭力評估報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6714.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6716.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6705.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6709.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
審議無人機產業發展剛領域重大政策事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6709.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6713.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
預有重大事件得召開臨時會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6713.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6715.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
委員會議之會議記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6715.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6719.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
應以刊載行政院網站之方式主動公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6719.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6723.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
內容應包括會議會議次別會議時間開會地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6723.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6727.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
主席出席委員按由議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6727.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6729.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
決議內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6728.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6730.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
委員會設 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6731.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6735.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
委員會自委員13人至17人其中一人為行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6735.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6739.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
為主任委員由行政院副院長兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6739.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6743.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
其餘委員由經濟部國防部交通部國家通訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6743.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6745.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
傳播委員會公共工程委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6745.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6747.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
委員會等相關機關首長兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6749.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6753.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
及由中央主管機關就立法院各黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6753.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6758.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
推薦之學者專家遴選之前向零聘之委員人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6758.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6762.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
不得少於委員總額人總額二分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6762.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6765.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
聘期為兩年期滿得續聘之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6770.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
聘期應聘期內因故改聘者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6770.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6775.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
其聘其志願聘委員聘其屆滿之日為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6775.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6778.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
委員會幕僚作業由經濟部辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6778.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6782.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
其組成任務及運作方式由行政院定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6782.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6785.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
委員宗嘉斌等人提案第三條行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6785.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6788.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
應設無人載具自主發展委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6788.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6792.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
簡稱委員會統籌協調無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6792.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6795.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
發展採購基本條例之相關政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6795.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6801.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
計畫與跨機關事項並就各機關推動情形進行管考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6801.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6807.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
委員會之組成任務運作方式及利益回避保密義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6807.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6810.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
國家安全查核機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6810.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6812.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
另由行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6812.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6814.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
由行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6816.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6819.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
王定宇委員提案第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6819.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6823.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
甄定第二項委員會制委員11人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6823.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6824.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
其中議人為主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6824.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6826.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
由行政院副院長兼任之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6826.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6829.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
5名委員由經濟部國防部交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6829.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6832.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
國家通訊川普委員會及公共工程委員會之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6832.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6834.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
機關首長兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6835.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6836.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6837.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6840.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
甄定第三項前項另外6名委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6840.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6843.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
由行政院院長就無人載具國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6843.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6848.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
資訊科技等領域之傑出實務經驗學術成就 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6848.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6852.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
知學者專家零聘之委員聘期兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6853.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6856.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
任期期滿得續聘資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6856.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6859.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
魚頭委員宗教兵等提案第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6860.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6862.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
臺灣民眾黨團體案第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6862.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6865.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
經濟部應會同相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6865.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6868.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
逐步推動無人機安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6868.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6871.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
融入我國飛航安全管理體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6871.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6873.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
建立一超市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6874.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6877.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
超市具飛行管理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6877.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6880.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
夜間飛行群飛及自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6880.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6883.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
飛行管理制度三遠端識別制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6883.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6886.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
事先進空中交通管理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6886.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6888.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
5電動垂直起降管理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6888.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6891.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
6其他無人機相關飛行運作制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6892.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6894.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6894.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6899.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
中央主管機關應優先整合我國製造的無人機系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6899.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6904.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
並參著國際成熟認證標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6904.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6907.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
依無人機用途及風險等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6908.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6912.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
其建立可信任供應鏈分級認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6912.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6915.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
前項分級認證制度軍用無人機系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6915.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6918.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
軍品及關鍵零組件之認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6918.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6924.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
由國防部辦理商業公共服務及其他非軍用無人機系統之認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6924.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6926.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
由經濟部辦理其認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6926.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6930.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
因依無人機用途及風險等其建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6930.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6935.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
至少包括符合資通安全可信任公共鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6936.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6941.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
可信任供應鏈及國家安全要求之軍品及關鍵零組件認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6941.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6946.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
以及適用於非軍用用途之簡化認證機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6946.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
前兩項認證標準適用範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
驗證程序及正面表列清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6954.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
由中央主管機關會商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6955.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6959.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
相關機關擬定並公開於網際網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6960.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6962.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
委員宗嘉斌等人提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6962.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6965.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
安委員會因會同相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6965.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6967.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
參酌國際認證標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6967.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6971.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
依無人載具之軟硬體設備用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6971.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6973.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
與國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6972.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6976.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
安風險等其建立公認認認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6977.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6981.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
認證制度前向供應鏈評鑑認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6981.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6983.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
以國防需求為目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6983.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6987.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
從事研發產製維修與軍事用品質供應鏈認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6987.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6991.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
由國防部辦理非署前列目的者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6991.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6995.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
由經濟部辦理前二項認證標準分級標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6997.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
7001.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
驗證程序評鑑業務及正面表列清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
7001.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
7005.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
由前向辦理機關會同相關機關擬定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
7005.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
7008.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
為促進產業與國際標準接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
7008.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
7013.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
得以外國政府或國際認證機構建立相互認證機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
7014.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
7017.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
前向評鑑及認證業務得委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
7017.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
7021.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
經認可之專業機關購法人或團體為之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
7023.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
7025.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
7025.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
7028.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
同委員鍾嘉斌等人提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
7028.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
7030.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
7031.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
7037.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
經濟部應會同相關機關規劃無人機所需之評普資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
7037.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
7044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
資料鏈通訊遠端識別及反制測試所需電波資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
7044.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
7050.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
必要時得建立試驗品評率及專用評率核配機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
7050.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
7052.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
國防部應會同相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
7052.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
7058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
依作戰需求建構軍用無人機所需之衛星通訊資料鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
7058.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
7064.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
專用網路電池評普及其他關鍵通訊基礎設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
7064.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
7067.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
以提升無人機制製組安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
7067.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
7070.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
抗干擾及持續作戰能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
7070.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
7072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
臺灣民眾黨團提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
7072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
7079.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
經濟部應以下列方式支持我國製造無人機及相關系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
7080.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
7082.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
臺灣民眾黨議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
7082.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
7084.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
國際市場預測與開拓二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
7084.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
7088.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
收集國際應用資料公布會參考三 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
7088.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
7093.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
協助產業聯盟爭取國際市場商機四 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
7093.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
7100.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
依產業創新條例及相關法令提供必要之租稅融資及投資協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
7100.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
7104.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
五盤點公共部門共通非軍用採購需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
7104.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
7110.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
前項第五款公部門與盤點非軍用採購需求時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
7110.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
7116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
應載明採購之產品系統與其相關資源系統產品之具體名稱數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
7116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
7122.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
預算金額全受其維持成本及預計執行年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
7122.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
7125.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
經濟部應匯統外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
7125.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
7129.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
經濟部國貿國際貿易主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
7129.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
7134.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
標準檢驗主管機關及相關機關協助無人產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
7135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
7140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
掌控掌握國際標準出口管制最終用途產品認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
7140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
7143.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
資安認證及市場準錄範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
7143.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
7149.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十一條無人機及其共通用品下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
7149.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
7154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
屬規格共通需求重複且適合集中採購者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
7154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
7159.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
應由主管採購機關或其指定之機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
7159.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
7163.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
依政府採購法及共同供應契約相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
7163.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
7167.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
以共同供應契約或其他集中採購方式辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
7167.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
7170.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
其共同規格安全標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
7170.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
7175.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
資安要求可信任供應鏈檢驗項目及維修服務項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
7175.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
7178.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
應匯統經濟部及相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
7181.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
7187.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十二條國防部應優先採購整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
7187.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
7191.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
和訓練使用我國製造低成本高性能無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
7191.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
7193.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
國防部應定期檢討做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
7194.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
7200.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
國戰需求及科技發展需求優先推動自主飛行群飛協同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
7200.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
7202.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
抗干擾導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
7204.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
7208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
模組化設計及快速量產能之建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
7208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
7216.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
國防部應每月更新可信任供應鏈及關鍵零組件認證清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
7216.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
7222.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
國防部於驗收後對廠商提供標的任由與契約規定不符 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
7222.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
7224.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
以律師得進行抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
7224.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
7230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
廠商應就該瑕疵保固及瑕疵擔保責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
7230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
7232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
委員賴世寶等人提案第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
7232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
7244.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
主管機關應會同國防部推動無人載具技術軍民共用化輔導具備軍事潛力之無人載具公司取得國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
7245.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
7249.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
採購資格並得就其研發之軍民雙用技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
7250.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
7253.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
及與額外研發補助或加速審定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
7253.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
7262.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
國防部得依國防採購法相關規定對國內自製且具關鍵戰術能力之無人載具產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
7262.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
7266.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
及與優先採購及長期供應合約 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
7266.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
7270.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
以形成穩定國內需求帶動產業量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
7271.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
7274.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
委員宗嘉賓等人提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
7274.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
7279.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
各級政府機關辦理無人載具及其系統之採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
7279.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
7286.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
屬基於國家安全或國防目的而需排除政府採購協定適用者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
7286.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
7288.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
得採購限制性招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
7288.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
7293.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
優先向國內廠商採購不受政府採購法第十九條規定之限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
7293.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
7298.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
前項以外之採購各級政府機關於不抵觸我國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
7299.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
7305.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
替截資條約或協定範圍內的優先向國內廠商採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
7305.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
7309.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
各級政府機關依前兩項辦理採購時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
7309.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
7312.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
得示國內產業技術發展程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
7312.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
7317.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
於招標文件中訂定合理之國產化比例要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
7317.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
7321.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
其訂定原則由委員會會同主管機關定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
7321.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
7324.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
7324.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
7327.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
同委員宗嘉賓等人提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
7328.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
7331.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
委員賴世保等人提案第十四第十七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
7331.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
7336.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
各級政府機關公立學校及公營事業採購無人載具產品或服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
7336.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
7339.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
應優先採購符合本條例規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
7339.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
7343.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
由國內無人載具公司製造且國產零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
7344.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
7346.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
使用比例達一定標準者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
7346.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
7349.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
其相關規範由主管機關公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
7349.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
7351.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
指主管機關應鼓勵無人載具公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
7351.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
7354.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
參與國際採購合作及外銷推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
7355.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
7361.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
並得委託貿易推廣機構提供市場進入輔導及輔助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
7361.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
7364.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
國民民眾黨提案第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
7364.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
7369.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
經濟部應建立無人機產業資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
7369.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
7374.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
定期收集會診及公布下列資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
7374.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
7375.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
一產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
7376.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
7381.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
產業鏈業者產品類型及主要應用領域 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
7381.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
7384.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
二關鍵零組件系統整合檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
7386.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
7389.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
驗證及維修服務量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
7389.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
7396.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
三關鍵技術自主發展技術成熟度量產備能度及驗證能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
7396.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
7400.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
四資安驗證可信任供應鏈驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
7400.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
7404.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
國際認證及標準接軌情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
7404.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
7406.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
五測試場域測試走廊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
7406.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
7410.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
四非安建及相關安全資料統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
7410.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
7415.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
六公務用途無人機只使用類型及安全管理情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
7415.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
7417.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
七無人機共同規格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
7417.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
7422.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
共同供應契約採購監督及維修服務情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
7422.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
7426.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
八人才供需訓練及證照情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
7426.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
7431.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
九出口市場國際合作及互通性標準情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
7431.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
7435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
前項資料涉及國家機密營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
7437.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
7442.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
營業秘密個人資料資通安全或執法安全者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
7442.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
7446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
應依相關法律保密或去識別化後公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
7446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
7449.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
臺灣民眾黨團體案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
7449.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
7453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
以詐區虛偽不實資料或其他不正方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
7453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
7460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
深得政府就無人產業所訂之補助獎勵投資融資或信用保證者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
7460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
7464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
中央主管機關應撤銷或廢止其受領資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
7464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
7466.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
並追回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
7466.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
7468.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
以撥付資全部或一部分款項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
7468.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
7472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
中央主管機關因前項情形受有損害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
7472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
7476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
得項行為人請求損害賠償 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
7476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
7477.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
若今查明為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
7479.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
7482.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
若今查明行為人系出於故意者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
7482.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
7484.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
中央主管機關得以侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
7485.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
7487.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
請結令請求損害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
7488.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
7491.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
而一倍至三倍至懲罰性賠償金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
7491.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
7494.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
第一項之行為人設及刑事責任者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
7494.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
7496.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
由中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
7496.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
7499.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
因移送檢查機關偵辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
7499.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
7506.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
易得依刑事申訴法之規定提起自述等其他救濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
7506.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
7508.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
委員宗教兵等人提案第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
7508.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
7513.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
委員會針對依本條例辦理之採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
7513.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
7516.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
及受由投資抵減獎勵或補助者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
7516.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
7519.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
因定期或不定期進行查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
7519.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
7523.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
其查核之項目基準程序及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
7523.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
7526.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
依徵循事項之辦法由委員會定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
7526.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
7529.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
前項查核涉及零組件產地溯源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
7529.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
7534.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
資訊安全檢測及系統係數規格者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
7534.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
7539.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
委員會得委託具公信力之第三方專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
7541.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
7545.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
驗證機構或法人辦理受查核之機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
7545.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
7549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
得標廠商或獎勵補助之營利事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
7549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
7553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
對於前兩項支查核或檢測不得規避 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
7553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
7557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
妨礙或拒絕並應主動提供供應鏈來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
7557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
7562.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
證明財務報表生產紀錄及其他相關佐證事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
7563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
7568.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
經查核發現有違反國本條例第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
7568.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
7571.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
國產化比例第九條資通安全規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
7571.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
7574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
或有其他違法違約情形者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
7574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
7578.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
委員會或主管機關得事情節輕重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
7578.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
7583.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
終止或解除契約追繳以撥付之補助款及依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
7585.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
7587.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
補徵疑抵減之稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
7587.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
7593.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
其涉及刑事責任者依法移送檢調機關就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
7593.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
7594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
7594.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
7597.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
委員王定宇等人提案第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
7597.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
7600.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
同委員鍾嘉斌等人提案第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
7600.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
7602.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
臺灣民眾黨提案第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
7602.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
7607.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
中央主管機關應會同相關機關與本條例公布後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
7607.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
7612.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
一年內完成一提出第一期無人機產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
7612.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
7617.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
二無人機安全融入空域管理體系之規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
7617.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
7621.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
三測試場域測試走廊及示範區之畫設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
7621.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
7626.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
中央主管機關應會同相關機關與本條例公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
7626.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
7631.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
施行後六個月內完成可信任供應鏈分級認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
7631.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
7634.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
之建立委員賴世寶等人提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
7634.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
7639.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
為促進無人載具產業升級從事第四條第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
7639.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
7644.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
第二款第一櫻木業務之無人載具公司投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
7644.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
7649.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
於同項第三款至第八款規定之研發與發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
7649.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
7651.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
支出得以百分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
7652.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
7655.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
得於支出金額百分之二十五限度內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
7655.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
7661.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
自有因那營利事業所得稅之年度起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
7661.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
7665.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
五年內抵減各年度因那營利事業所得稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
7665.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
7670.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
前項投資抵減其每一年度的抵減總額已不超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
7670.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
7675.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
該無人載具公司當年度因那營利事業所得稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
7675.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
7677.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
百分之五十為限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
7677.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
7681.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
但最後年度抵減金額不在此限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
7681.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
7685.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
第一項投資抵減之事用範圍核定機關申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
7686.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
7692.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
申請期限申請程序施行期限抵減率及其他相關事項之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
7692.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
7696.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
辦法由主管機關會同財政部定制委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
7696.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
7702.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
宗家兵等人提案第七條營利事業投資於無人載具之前瞻技術研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
7702.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
7708.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
先進製造設備測試儀器及資安防護設備之支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
7708.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
7711.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
得於支出金額百分之十二度內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
7711.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
7717.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
自當年度其五年內抵減各年度因那營利事業所得稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
7717.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
7722.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
前項投資抵減其每一年度得抵減總額已不超過營利事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
7722.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
7726.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
當年度因那營利事業所得稅額百分之三十為限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
7726.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
7731.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
營利事業就同意支出第一項規定抵減者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
7731.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
7737.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
不得重複適用產業創新條例或其他法律所訂研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
7739.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
7741.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
發展或設備投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
7741.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
7744.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
此字幕由 Amara.org 社群提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
7742.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
7748.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
投資資投資抵減其與其他投資抵減合併適用時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
7748.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
7756.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
每一年度合計抵減金額不得超過當年度因那營利事業所得稅額百分之五十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
7757.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
7761.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
委員王定理等人提案 同委員鍾嘉斌等人提案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
7763.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
7766.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
委員賴氏寶等是四人提案 第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
7793.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
7798.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
自有因那營利事業所得稅之年度起 抵減當年度因那營利事業所得稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
7798.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
7804.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
二 與支出金額百分之三限度內 自有因那營利事業所得稅之年度起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
7804.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
7807.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
三年內抵減各年度因那營利事業所得稅額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
7807.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
7813.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
前向無人載具公司與同一年度合併適用前向投資抵減及其他投資抵減時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
7813.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
7820.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
其當年度合計得抵減總額已不超過當年度因那營利事業所得稅額百分之五五十為限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
7820.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
7821.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
但最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
7821.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
7823.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
最後年度抵減金額不再呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
7823.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
7829.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
前向無人載具公司申請適用第一項投資抵減 因提出具一定效益之投資計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
7829.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
7833.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
經主管機關專業案核准 且與同一課稅年度已申請一次為限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
7833.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
7839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
前三項投資抵減之適用範圍 具一定效益之投資計畫 申請期限 申請程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
7839.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
7845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
當年度合計得抵減總額之計算 及其他相關事項之辦法 由主管機關會同財政部定資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
7845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
7848.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
委員賴氏寶等四十四人提案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
7848.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
7856.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
為鼓勵無人載具公司之創意或擴充 營利事業原始認股或應募屬該無人載具公司發行之股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
7856.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
7862.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
成為該公司居民普通達三年以上 且該無人載具公司為該認股或應募金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
7862.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
7867.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
依其他法律規定 申請免徵營利事業所得稅或股東投資抵減者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
7867.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
7871.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
得以其取得該股票之價款百分之二十限度內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
7871.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
7874.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
至其有因那營利事業所得稅之年度起五年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
7874.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
7881.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
抵減各年度因那營利事業所得稅而 其每一年度得抵減總額已不超過該營利事業當年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
7883.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
7886.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
因那營利事業所得稅而百分之五十違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
7886.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
7891.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
前項鎖定無人載具公司屬從事第四條第一項第二款第二目業務者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
7891.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
7897.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
已未上市未上櫃公司或自設立登記日期未滿十年至上市上櫃公司違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
7898.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
7908.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
第一項申請抵減之要件申請期限申請程序施行期限抵減率及其他相關事項之辦法由主管機關會同財政部定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
7908.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
7915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
文人大事保等事事人提案第八條個人與現金投資未上市或未上櫃之無人載具公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
7915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
7921.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
且對同一公司當年度投資金額達新台幣一百萬元以上並取得該公司之新發行股份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
7921.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
7928.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
持有期間達三年者得就投資金額百分之五十限度內自持有期間建滿三年之當年度起兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
7928.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
7934.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
自個人綜合所的稅額中減除每年得減除金額合計以新台幣五百萬元以違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
7934.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
7939.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
前項鎖定無人載具公司屬從事第四條第一項第二款第一目業務者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
7939.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
7945.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
以設立登記日期未滿十年至公司違憲屬從事同管第二目業務者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
7945.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
7952.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
以設立登記日期未滿五年至公司違憲第一項個人資資格條件申請期限申請程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
7952.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
7958.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
持有期間計算核定機關及其他相關事項之辦法由主管機關會同財政部定制委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
7958.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
7963.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
大事保等事事人提案第九條為鼓勵高階專業人員及技術投資人參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
7963.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
7968.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
無人載具公司之經營及研究發展並分享營運成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
7968.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
7974.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
無人載具公司高階專業人員因講求及技術投資人因技術入股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
7974.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
7981.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
而取得之新發行股票得選擇免以紀錄取得股票當年度因課稅所得而課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
7981.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
7987.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
已經決定不得並更但選擇免以紀錄取得股票當年度課稅者該股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
7989.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7996.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
轉讓或帳簿劃撥制開設之有價證券保管劃撥帳戶時應將全部轉讓價格或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7996.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
8003.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
撥轉日之時價作為該轉讓或撥轉年度之收益依所得稅法規定生計算所得並申報課徵所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
8005.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
8014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
高階專業人員或個人技術投資人因前項規定選擇免以紀錄取得股票當年度課稅自取得股票日起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
8014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
8020.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
持有股票且繼續於該公司任職或提供技術應用相關服務累計達兩年者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
8020.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
8025.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
於實際轉讓或帳簿劃撥制開設之有價證券保管劃撥帳戶時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
8025.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
8030.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
其全部轉讓價格高於股票取得之時價或價格者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
8030.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
8038.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
以股票取得之時價或價格作為該轉讓或撥轉年度之收益依所得稅法規定計算所得並申報課徵所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
8038.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
8047.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
第一項所稱高階專業人員只具備無人載具相關專業或技術且擔任無人載具公司執行長或經理人以上職務職人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
8047.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
8053.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
所徵技術投資人只與無人載具公司所需技術體操出資資技術入股投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
8053.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
8057.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
無人載具公司與高階專業人員或技術投資人取得股票當年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
8057.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
8064.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
因規定格式及文件資料送請主管機關認定使得適用第一項及第二項之獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
8064.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
8071.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
其認定結果並複製公司所在地址稅間積增機關第三項所定無人載具相關專業或技術範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
8071.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
8076.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
送請認定期限與程序及其他相關事項之辦法由主管機關訂資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
8076.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
8081.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
高階專業人員技術投資人取得股票緩刻與所得稅申報之程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
8081.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
8085.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
因提示文件資料及其他相關事項之辦法由財政部訂資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
8085.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
8088.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
委員大事把投資試驗提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
8088.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
8094.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
無人載具公司經董事會以董事三分之二以上之出席及出席董事過半數同意之決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
8094.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
8097.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
並經主管機關核准後得發行認股權證設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
8100.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
8101.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
認股權證設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
8102.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
8106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
認股權評證與前條之高階專業人員或技術投資人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
8106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
8113.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
依前項規定持有認股權證認股權評證者得以約定價格認購特定數量之股份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
8113.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
8115.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
其認購價格不得受公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
8116.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
8120.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
得不受公司法第140條不得第一票面金額之限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
8120.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
8127.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
文載具公司依前條第一項規定發行新股時不適用公司法267條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
8127.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
8131.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
高階專業人員或技術投資人持有認股權評證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
8131.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
8136.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
其認購取得股票之所得稅課徵及相關申報事項適用前條各項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
8136.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
8143.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
依第一項規定申請主管機關核准發行認股權評證之要件文件及其他相關事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
8143.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
8147.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
由主管機關訂製文代資保等事實人提案第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
8147.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
8153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
依其他法令享有租稅優惠者不得就同意事項重複享有本條例所訂製租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
8153.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
8160.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
文載具公司最近三年因違反環境保護勞工資通安全或飛航安全相關法律且情質也重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
8160.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
8166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
經過中央目的事業主管機關認定者不得依第五條及第六條規定申請租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
8166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
8171.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
並停止及追回違章行為所屬年度依前開規定申請所獲得之租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
8171.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
8177.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
依前項規定應停止及追回租稅優惠者財政部因停止或追回之處分確定後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
8177.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
8183.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
預計網站公開該無能載具公司之名稱文代資保等事實人提案第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
8183.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
8189.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
新創製無人載具公司其主要技術提供者為公立專科以上學校或公立研究機關構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
8189.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
8196.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
研究人員者不受教育人員任用條例第34條公務人員符法第14條第一項不得經營商業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
8196.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
8202.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
股本總額10%第二項及第15條兼任他向業務制限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
8202.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
8206.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
為應遵守公職人員利益衝突迴避法相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
8207.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
8213.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
前項所稱新創製無人載具公司只至設立登記登記日期未滿8年者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
8213.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
8219.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
第一項公立專科以上學校或公立研究機關構從事研究人員之認定得兼任職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
8219.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
8227.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
得兼任職務與數額技術作價投資比例之限制經營商業之資訊公開利益迴避監督管理查核及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
8227.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
8233.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
應遵循事項之辦法營運行政院會同考試人定知文代資保等事實人提案第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
8233.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
8237.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
為提升無人載具技術加強產官學和 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
8238.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
8241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
產官學研合作研究發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
8241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
8250.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
初期無人載具產業升級公立專科以上學校或公立研究機關構之研發人員經學校或該機關構同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
8250.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
8252.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
得到無人載具公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
8251.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
8255.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
研發諮詢委員或顧問委員代資保等事實人提案第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
8255.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
8260.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
高階專業人員或技術投資人第9條第1項第10條第4項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
8261.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
8264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
選擇名義紀錄取得股票當年度課稅者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
8264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
8271.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
無人載具公司應與股東轉讓或辦理帳簿劃撥年度之次年度1月31日以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
8271.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
8278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
依規定格式向該管稅金激增機關列單申報該已轉讓或辦理帳簿劃撥之股份資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
8278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
8282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
其未一線或未具實申報者稅間激增機關除現期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
8283.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
8286.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
責令補報外,按其因申報或短期之所得金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
8286.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
8291.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
處無人載具公司負責人10%之罰還,但最高不得超過新台幣50萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
8291.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
8293.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
最低不得低於新台幣5萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
8294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
8296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
遺跡自動申報者減半處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
8298.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
8303.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
無人載具公司經稅間激增機關現期責令補報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
8303.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
8307.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
藉其為補報者按其因申報或短期之所得金額處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
8307.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
8312.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
無人載具公司負責人15%之罰還,但最高不得超過新台幣100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
8312.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
8314.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
最低不得少於新台幣10萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
8314.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
8316.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
委員賴世寶等43人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
8316.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
8319.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
第五條,主管機關辦理本條例鎖定採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
8319.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
8324.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
因採購企業中訂定技術移轉及工業合作條款及工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
8324.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
8327.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
價值不得低於各該採購企業金額之40% |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
8328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
8331.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
前項技術移轉及工業合作因以建立下列能量為目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
8331.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
8335.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
1、關鍵次系統之國內產製及自主維修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
8335.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
8338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
包括光電與雷達感測器、衛星與資料鏈、 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
8338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
8344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
飛行控制與自主導航軟體、人工智慧目標辨識及抗干擾、 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
8344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
8345.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
抗衛星定位七變模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
8345.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
8349.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
2、國內共同生產、組裝、整合測試及後級維修能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
8349.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
8352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
3、工業飛鴻化及自動安全排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
8352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
8356.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
含有後門或二一模組織關鍵零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
8356.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
8359.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
主管機關應會同經濟部、國家科學及技術委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
8359.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
8362.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
協調國家中商科學研究院相關法人及國內廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
8362.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
8367.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
建立技術接收消化及產業化機制並培育相關人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
8367.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
8371.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
本條例所需經費應提撥不低於30% |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
8371.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
8375.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
專攻前三項技術移轉、接收產業化及維修能量建立之用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
8375.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
8377.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
委員張家斌等上11人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
8377.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
8381.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
以本條例之得標廠商及涉有租稅補助或政策優惠者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
8382.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
8386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
因落實生產過程之自動安全管控提供或生產之無人載具中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
8386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
8393.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
凡具備聯網資訊、資料運用、運算處理、電子控制、電力驅動或感測功能等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
8393.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
8398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
具自動安全疑慮之軟硬體、零組件及雲端資料運算服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
8398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
8402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
延續使用大陸地區產製或大陸地區廠牌之產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
8402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
8406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
亦不得由大陸地區人民、法人、團體或其他機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
8406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
8410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
所投資或具有實質控制權制器的提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
8410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
8417.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
前項規定之外,屬非電子無通信聯網功能且無自動安全疑慮之基礎機構件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
8417.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
8421.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
載具外殼或五金構件,經文物會或主管機關審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
8421.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
8425.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
確認國家安全風險者,得不受前項規定之限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
8426.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
8431.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
前項規定零組件之項目清單認定基準審查程序及其他應遵循 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
8431.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
8434.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
事項之辦法由委員會、會商相關機關訂資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
8434.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
8438.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
委員會定義等17人提案,同委員、宗家兵等21人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
8438.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
8441.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
委員宗家兵等21人提案第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
8441.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
8444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
委員會應會同交通部及相關目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
8444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
8448.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
以本條例施行日期3年內建置無人載具交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
8449.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
8453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
管理與運行監控系統以維護各類無人載具之運行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
8453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
8456.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
秩序及公共安全,經公告具一定條件之無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
8456.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
8460.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
應具備電子識別及與前項系統連線之功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
8460.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
8463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
並遵從交通管理及運行管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
8463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
8466.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
無人載具未遺前項規定連線或不遵從管制者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
8466.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
8470.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
文物會或場域管理機關得令期改善或暫停運行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
8470.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
8472.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
事項重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
8473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
8476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
安全事件時,其所有人或操作員應立即通報委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
8476.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
8479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
並妥善保存系統紀律與影像工查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
8479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
8483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
第一項系統是建置,第二項電子識別連線與運行管制規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
8483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
8487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
前項運行、正題運行要件與通報程序及其他應遵循 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
8487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
8491.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
事項的辦法由交通部會商委員會及相關目的事業主管機關訂製 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
8494.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
8496.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
委員王定以改施經驗提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
8497.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
8499.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
第十條,通報委員抓到兵等二十元提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
8499.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
8501.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
8500.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
8502.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
委員狀況並等二十元提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
8502.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
8506.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
第十三條,與本條例劃設至測試場域或測試的走廊內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
8506.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
8511.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
從事無人載具之風群、超視距、多機協同、敵我、識別或反制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
8511.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
8516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
含無線電頻率干擾及武器使用、測試者、音響委員會申請許可 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
8516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
8519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
前項申請涉及音響或反反制測試者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
8519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
8524.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
委員應會同國防部及國家通訊傳播委員會辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
8524.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
8526.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
設定數量以上無人載具之群飛系統者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
8527.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
8530.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
委員應會商、數位發展部並同辦理資當安全檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
8530.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
8535.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
第一項進階測試之名詞、定義及前二項之許可條件審查程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
8536.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
8540.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
此外,這項測試的行動將會進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
8540.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
8543.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
8543.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
8546.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
8546.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
8549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
8549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
8552.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
8552.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
8555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
8555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
8558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
8558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
8561.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
8561.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
8564.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
並將進行在未來的一年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
8537.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
8541.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
資安檢測基準、安全管理技術規範及其他應遵循事項是辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
8541.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
8545.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
由委員會商相關目的事業主管機關訂資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
8545.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
8548.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
委員會第五等17人提案第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
8548.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
8551.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
黨委員中交病等20人提案第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
8551.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
8552.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
咳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
8552.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
8554.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
文中交病等21人提案第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
8554.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
8556.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
為提升政府行政效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
8556.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
8558.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
降低人員執勤風險及強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
8558.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
8562.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
災防應變衛星各級政府機關應依其應務執掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
8562.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
8565.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
積極評估並導入人採菌應用於資安尋訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
8567.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
8569.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
災難收救環境與基礎設施監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
8569.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
8571.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
國土利用調查及其他公共事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
8571.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
8574.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
各機關應就推動情形逐年檢視盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
8574.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
8577.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
並彙整提報文人採菌自主發展委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
8577.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
8581.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
微弱時前向應用並充實專業操作能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
8581.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
8585.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
委員會應會統行政院人事行政總處及各目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
8587.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
8590.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
應將無人採菌之專業操作採購管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
8590.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
8592.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
非常安全及自動安全防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
8592.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
8595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
納入連度公務人員培訓計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
8595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
8598.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
各級政府機關對於所屬公務人員參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
8598.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
8602.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
前向培訓並取得無人採菌專業操作證照者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
8602.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
8606.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
得以得益權而獲得部分參訓費用之補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
8606.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
8609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
各機關亦得對於推動績效優良之所屬公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
8609.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
8611.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
得益公務人員考級法所訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
8611.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
8613.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
平時考獎勵予以去獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
8613.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
8615.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
一第一項所訂之連度推動計畫內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
8615.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
8618.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
逐年檢視之指標與程序及T3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
8619 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
8622 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
平和與獎勵之項目及轉機作業方式之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
8622 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
8625 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
由委員會會商相關機關定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
8625.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
8627.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
委員王立宇等17人提案第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
8627.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
8630.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
同委員鍾嘉斌等21人提案第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
8631.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
8633.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
委員王立宇等17人提案第17條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
8633.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
8636.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
施行期間屆滿前外年雙組管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
8636.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
8639.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
英惠同交通部海南委員會及相關目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
8639.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
8643.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
就第10條無人採菌交通管理及運行管理制度之實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
8643.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
8645.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
實施成效進行檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
8645.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
8648.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
因你加該制度納入民用航空法傳播法或 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
8648.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
8650.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
訂定專法制作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
8650.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
8653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
於本條例施行期間屆滿前完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
8653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
8656.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
前向法制作業以本條例施行期間屆滿前未完成者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
8657.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
8660.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
第10條相關規定得繼續施行至完成之日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
8661.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
8663.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
國民黨黨團提案第20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
8663.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
8666.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
有下列行為之一者處3年以上時間以下有期徒刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
8666.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
8668.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
並得並科新台幣1000萬元以下罰金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
8668.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
8670.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
1.破壞、毀損或非法侵入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
8670.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
8673.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
軍民共用測試場域或無人採菌生產設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
8673.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
8678.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
2.窃取或卸了無人採菌相關知機制機密技術資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
8678.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
8682.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
3.以不罰手段使無人採菌知識非控系統通訊模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
8682.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
8684.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
遭受未經授權之入侵或操控 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
8684.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
8686.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
國民黨黨團提案第21條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
8686.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
8688.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
違反本條例下列規定者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
8688.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
8690.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
依各款規處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
8690.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
8692.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
依違反第17條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
8692.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
8695.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
使用未經認證至高風險地區領土建貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
8695.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
8697.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
而獲取本條例獎勵授施者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
8697.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
8699.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
除以第19條撤銷至國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
8699.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
8704.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
並追繳已領取之獎勵款項並處不罰所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
8704.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
8706.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
一倍以上、三倍以下罰款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
8706.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
8708.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
而於資格審查或驗收程序中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
8708.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
8713.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
提供虛約資料者除新台幣100萬以上、500萬以下罰款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
8713.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
8715.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
國民黨黨團提案第22條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
8715.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
8718.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
本條例施行細則由中央主管機關會談國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
8718.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
8721.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
數位發展部於本條例公布後6個月內定支 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
8721.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
8723.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
台灣民進黨黨團提案第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
8723.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
8725.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
本條例施行細則由中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
8725.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
8727.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
擬定報警行政核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
8729.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
8730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
行政院提案第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
8730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
8732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
本條例及其特別預算施行期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
8732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
8737.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
自中華民國115年8月1日起至120年12月31日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
8737.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
8740.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
指本條例及其特別預算施行期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
8740.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
8742.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
屆滿德軍立法院同意延長之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
8742.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
8744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
委員林祖英等實施員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
8744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
8745.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
委員陳樹葉等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
8747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
8749.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
等實施員提案委員蔡毅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
8749.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
8751.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
等實施員提案委員李一景 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
8751.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
8753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
等實施員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
8752.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
8754.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
等實施員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
8753.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
8755.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
吳思瑤等實施員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
8755.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
8757.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
委員賴慧揚等17人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
8757.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
8759.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
委員李坤城等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
8759.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
8761.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
支第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
8762.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
8764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
金同行政院提案第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
8764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
8766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
國民黨黨團提案第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
8766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
8768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
本條例自公布後6個月施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
8768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
8772.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
實施期屆滿6年後本條例施效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
8772.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
8774.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
黨民眾黨黨團提案第17條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
8774.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
8776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
本條例自公布日施行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
8776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
8778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
委員賴慧揚等43人提案第8條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
8778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
8780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
本條例及其特別預算施行期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
8780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
8782.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
自中華民國116年1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
8783.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
8786.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
1月1日起至120年12月31日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
8786.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
8788.01 |
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本條例及其特別預算施行期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
8788.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
8790.01 |
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屆滿得盡立法案同意 |
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8790.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
8792.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
原常之委員賴慧揚等44人提案 |
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8794.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
8796.86 |
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第19條本條例自公布日施行 |
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8796.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
8798.86 |
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自中華民國130年12月31日 |
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8798.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
8800.86 |
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但第5條自第11條 |
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8800.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
8802.86 |
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施行期間自公布後 |
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8802.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
8804.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
次年1月1日起至 |
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8804.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
8806.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
中華民國130年12月31日 |
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8806.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
8808.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
委員宗家兵等21人提案 |
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8808.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
8810.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
第18條本條例及其特別預算 |
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8810.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
8812.86 |
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施行期間自中華民國115年 |
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8812.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
8814.86 |
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8月1日起至120年12月31日 |
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8814.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
8816.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
本條例及其特別預算 |
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8816.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
8818.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
施行期間屆滿得盡立法案 |
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8818.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
8820.86 |
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同意原常之委員王定宇等 |
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8820.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
8822.86 |
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17人提案第18條 |
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8822.86 |
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8824.86 |
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本條例自公布日起施行 |
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8824.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
8826.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
施行期間2年本條例施行期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
8826.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
8828.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
屆滿得盡立法案同意原常之 |
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8831.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
8832.24 |
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委員宗教 |
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8833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
8835.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
我們鄭政權 |
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8835.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
8837.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
黃建斌有許提名 |
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8837.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
8839.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
待會兒再示表方言等 |
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8839.7 |
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8841.7 |
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提案 |
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8865.28 |
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8867.28 |
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好休息五分鐘 |
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8867.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
8869.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
之後再回來主調審查謝謝 |
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8916.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
8924.36 |
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請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
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8926.74 |
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8928.74 |
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謝謝大家 |
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8975.98 |
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8977.98 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9006.07 |
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9008.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9010.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9020.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9022.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9022.07 |
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9024.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9024.07 |
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9026.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9028.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
謝謝大家 |
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9028.07 |
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9030.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9030.07 |
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9032.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9032.07 |
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9034.07 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9011.97 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9021.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9021.96 |
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9023.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9025.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9025.96 |
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9027.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9027.96 |
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9029.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9029.96 |
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9031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
謝謝大家 |
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9031.96 |
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9033.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9033.96 |
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9035.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9035.96 |
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9037.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9037.96 |
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9039.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9039.96 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9041.39 |
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9043.39 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9043.85 |
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9045.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9045.85 |
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9047.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9053.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9061.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9061.85 |
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9063.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9063.85 |
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9065.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9065.85 |
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9067.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9067.85 |
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9069.85 |
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謝謝大家 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9064.96 |
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9066.96 |
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9097.82 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9097.82 |
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9099.82 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9099.82 |
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9101.82 |
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謝謝大家 |
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9169.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
9171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
那一天兩個星期二完 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
9171.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
9173.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
好棒啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
9173.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
9175.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
但是我來不及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
9175.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
9177.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
8月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
9177.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
9179.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
8月2號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
9179.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
9181.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
9181.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
9183.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
禮拜天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
9183.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
9185.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
星期一星期二 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
9185.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
9187.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
下禮拜一我們排什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
9187.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
9189.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
下禮拜一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
9189.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
9191.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
應該也是考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
9191.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
9193.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
下禮拜一考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
9193.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
9195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
禮拜二沒什麼事吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
9195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
9197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
禮拜二應該沒什麼事吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
9197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
9199.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
禮拜二沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
9203.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
9205.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
我太我太 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
9206.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
9207.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
我來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
9207.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
9209.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
來你們的標本規例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
9211.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
9213.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
我們就是用這個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
9213.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
9215.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
然後大家能同在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
9215.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
9217.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
在那個候選人們一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
9217.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
9219.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
一起量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
9219.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
9221.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
一起合辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
9221.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
9223.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
這個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
9223.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
9225.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
我們跟你們吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
9225.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
9227.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
第二吃保持都沒有到分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
9227.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
9229.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
這個就沒有所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
9243.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
9245.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
9247.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
9249.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
9260.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
9262.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
9267.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
9269.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
9285.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
9287.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
好我們現在進行協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
9289.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
9291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
首先我們先進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
9291.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
9293.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
法案名稱的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
9293.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
9295.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
請經濟部先說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
9305.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
9307.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
五分鐘以內謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
9311.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
9313.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
各位委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
9313.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
9315.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
那我想經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
9315.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
9317.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
針對這一次的這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
9317.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
9319.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
那我們還是支持這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
9319.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
9321.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
希望委員能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
9321.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
9323.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
行政版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
9324.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
9326.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
行政所提的這個國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
9326.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
9328.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
無人載具的採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
9328.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
9330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
是因應整個國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
9330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
9332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
還有產業發展的這個需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
9332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
9334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
那以及建立整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
9334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
9336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
這個費用供應鏈的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
9336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
9338.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
9338.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
9340.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
韌性的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
9340.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
9342.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
那我們提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
9342.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
9344.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
因為國防自主的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
9344.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
9346.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
9346.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
9348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
那需要有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
9348.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
9350.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
這個編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
9350.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
9352.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
兩千一百億的這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
9352.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
9354.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
那可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
9354.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
9356.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
作為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
9356.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
9358.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
相關無人機的這個軍事的一個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
9358.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
9360.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
那我想產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
9360.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
9362.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
最重要的是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
9362.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
9364.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
能夠有一個長期穩定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
9364.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
9366.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
9366.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
9368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
那他們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
9368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
9370.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
來針對未來的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
9370.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
9372.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
研發還有量產的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
9372.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
9374.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
可以來做一個投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
9374.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
9376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
那希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
9376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
能夠用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
9378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
的方式能夠來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
9380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
9382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
整個產業的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
9382.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
9384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
那也配合整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
9384.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
9386.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
國防建軍的一個需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
9386.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
9388.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
那增加我們整個國防的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
9388.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
9390.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
一個防衛韌性的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
9390.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
9392.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
所以我們希望藉由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
9392.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
9394.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
這個編列特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
9394.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
9396.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
能夠給予產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
9396.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
9398.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
能夠有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
9398.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
9400.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
能夠長期穩定的一個訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
9400.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
9402.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
那他們也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
9402.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
9404.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
投入這個研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
9404.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
9406.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
以及做長期的一個投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
9406.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
9408.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
9408.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
9410.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
這個委員會這邊能夠來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
9410.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
9412.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
新的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
9412.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
9414.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
那至於其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
9414.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
9416.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
所提到這個產業發展的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
9416.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
9418.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
需要的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
9418.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
9420.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
條文的內容其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
9420.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
9422.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
已經在產業創新條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
9422.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
9424.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
也提供了許多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
9424.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
9426.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
一些租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
9426.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
9428.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
還有人才培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
9428.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
9430.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
甚至還有國際的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
9430.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
9432.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
以及銀行的融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
9432.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
9434.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
還有獎勵補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
9434.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
9436.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
9436.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
9438.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
這個政策工序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
9438.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
9440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
那所以我們在這邊還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
9440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
9442.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
希望這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
9442.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
9444.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
這邊能夠來支持新的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
9444.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
9446.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
9448.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
9450.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
委員有無意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
9453.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
9455.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
我們因為今天委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
9455.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
9457.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
聯席會比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
9457.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
9459.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
所以我們委員發言兩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
9458.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
9460.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
9459.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
9461.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
兩分重為線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
9461.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
9463.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
9463.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
9465.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
我是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
9465.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
9467.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
多達14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
9467.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
9469.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
那本席已經經過了一番的研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
9469.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
9471.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
建議可以用這個方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
9471.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
9473.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
不然的話這些條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
9473.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
9475.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
結構不一樣要一起審很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
9475.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
9477.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
他大概分成三類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
9477.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
9479.25 |
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一類就是純採購類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
9479.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
9481.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
大概以行政院版為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
9481.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
9483.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
一類是純產業發展類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
9483.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
9485.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
像民眾黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
9485.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
9487.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
賴斯堡委員的就是純產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
9487.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
9489.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
那另外一種是既有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
9489.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
9491.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
採購也有產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
9491.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
9493.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
像國民黨黨團的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
9493.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
9495.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
9495.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
9497.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
本席的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
9497.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
9499.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
還有大概就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
9499.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
9501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
這一類啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
9501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
9503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
我是建議有三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
9503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
9505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
夾一柄三種方式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
9505.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
9507.25 |
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一可能就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
9507.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
9509.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
一類一類來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
9509.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
9511.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
譬如說先處理純採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
9510.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
9512.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
再來處理純產業發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
9512.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
9514.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
再來處理兩種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
9514.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
9516.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
皆有的這是一種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
9516.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
9518.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
那一種就是以消去法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
9518.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
9520.95 |
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就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
9521.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
9523.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
純採購跟非純採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
9523.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
9525.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
那就分成兩類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
9525.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
9527.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
純採購的就是沒有長大產業發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
9527.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
9529.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
那綜合型的也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
9529.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
9531.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
第二種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
9531.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
9533.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
夾一柄柄類呢就是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
9534.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
9536.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
純產業發展的跟非純產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
9537.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
9539.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
那這樣子用邏輯上來分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
9539.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
9541.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
我們在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
9541.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
9543.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
才比較能夠將體力相近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
9543.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
9545.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
都在一起我再強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
9545.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
9547.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
這十四個版本基本上就三種類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
9547.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
9549.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
9549.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
9551.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
純採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
9551.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
9553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
二純產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
9553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
9555.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
三採購跟產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
9555.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
9557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
兼有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
9557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
9559.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
那我們的審查方式可以分一二三類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
9559.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
9561.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
就是分類審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
9561.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
9563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
那另外一種方式就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
9563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
9565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
採購的跟非純採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
9565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
9567.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
把它區分開來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
9567.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
9569.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
先審純採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
9569.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
9571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
非純採購的就另一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
9571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
9573.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
或者先審純產業發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
9573.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
9575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
那非純產業發展的通通放在一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
9575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
9577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
以上建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
9577.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
9579.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
好,請揚重音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
9579.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
9581.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
謝謝楊學民發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
9581.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
9583.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
我想今天大家不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
9585.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
9587.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
任何一個人都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
9587.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
9589.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
無人機成為我們台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
9589.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
9591.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
第二座的護國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
9591.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
9593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
我非常贊成剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
9593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
9595.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
這個經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
9595.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
9597.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
所做的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
9597.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
9599.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
他說無人機產業希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
9599.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
9601.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
是一個長期穩定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
9601.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
9603.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
預算非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
9603.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
9605.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
因此國民黨負責任的提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
9605.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
9607.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
國防自主無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
9607.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
9609.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
載具科技發展及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
9609.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
9611.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
採購條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
9611.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
9613.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
換句話說在整個採購國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
9613.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
9615.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
的安全我們全力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
9615.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
9617.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
產業的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
9617.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
9619.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
長長久久 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
9619.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
9621.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
我們必須要將產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
9621.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
9623.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
能夠成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
9623.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
9625.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
9624.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
9626.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
台灣的第二座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
9626.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
9628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
護國神山這非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
9628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
9630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
尤其在我們全國地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
9630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
9632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
特別在中部地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
9632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
9634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
我們已經準備就緒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
9634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
9636.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
我們希望能夠串聯起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
9636.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
9638.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
真正成為台灣的護國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
9638.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
9640.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
也創造了台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
9640.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
9642.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
一個光榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
9642.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
9644.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
這是非常重要所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
9644.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
9646.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
我在這邊建議因為國民黨的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
9647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
9649.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
第一條的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
9649.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
9651.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
按鈕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
9652.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
9656.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
也就是國防自主無人載具科技發展及採購條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
9656.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
9658.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
我們照著這個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
9660.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
9662.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
一條一條的來做審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
9662.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
9664.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
我覺得這個是很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
9664.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
9666.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
而且他是國防安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
9666.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
9668.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
以及經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
9669.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
9671.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
的一個發展能夠兼具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
9671.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
9673.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
以上建言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
9673.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
9675.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
好接下來我們請陳冠廷委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
9676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
9678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
9678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
9680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
其實剛才這個中交病委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
9680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
9682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
非常認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
9682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
9684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
希望說是用採購跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
9684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
9686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
非採購的這兩個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
9686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
9688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
去走會比較才可以把整個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
9688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
9690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
好好的審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
9690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
9692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
我還是要再提醒各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
9692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
9694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
我們剛才楊委員有提到是長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
9694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
9696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
等等的我們也同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
9696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
9698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
但是我們同時要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
9698.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
9700.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
很專注一件事情就是他可能不是長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
9700.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
9702.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
的威脅而已他可能短期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
9702.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
9704.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
馬上就要面臨威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
9704.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
9706.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
短期如果是明年可是後年可能我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
9706.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
9708.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
不知道對方會採取什麼樣的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
9708.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
9710.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
那變成說我們現在的採購必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
9710.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
9712.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
要因應短期迫切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
9712.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
9714.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
的威脅也要做因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
9714.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
9716.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
所以用採購跟非採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
9716.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
9718.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
這兩個方向來先去做審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
9718.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
9720.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
我覺得會會比較好因為發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
9720.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
9722.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
是為了長期面對長期的威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
9722.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
9724.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
但我們現在看到各個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
9724.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
9726.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
的報告也有可能是明年也有可能是後年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
9726.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
9728.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
那如果我們不具備這樣濱海作戰的能力的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
9728.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
9730.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
那等於是可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
9730.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
9732.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
會招致他們的等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
9732.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
9734.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
邀請他們說我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
9734.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
9736.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
沒有這個能力喔我們明年也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
9736.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
9738.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
後年也沒有所以這個部分請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
9738.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
9740.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
能夠我建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
9740.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
9742.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
是採取中嘉賓委員的這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
9742.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
9744.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
來去審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
9745.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
9747.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
好謝謝接下來請邱毅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
9749.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
9751.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
謝謝主席喔我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
9751.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
9753.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
剛剛幾位委員的發言我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
9753.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
9755.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
其實就可以非常清楚的知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
9756.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
9758.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
當時院會交下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
9758.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
9760.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
這幾個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
9760.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
9762.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
把它放在經濟委員會審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
9762.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
9764.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
荒謬性到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
9765.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
9767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
國防的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
9767.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
9769.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
主管機關主審單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
9769.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
9771.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
怎麼會是在經濟委員會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
9774.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
9776.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
國防戰略的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
9777.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
9781.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
國防的採購本來就應該在國防委員會去處理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
9781.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
9783.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
那產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
9784.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
9786.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
無人載具的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
9786.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
9788.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
在經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
9788.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
9790.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
這個一定是無可厚非而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
9790.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
9792.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
大家會全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
9792.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
9794.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
但是你現在台灣面臨到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
9794.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
9796.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
這個最迫切的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
9796.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
9798.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
是國防軍事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
9798.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
9800.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
採購上面對於台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
9800.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
9802.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
國防保衛上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
9802.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
9804.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
我們迫切需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
9805.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
9807.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
這些無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
9807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
9809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
9809.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
9811.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
那現在這麼多的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
9811.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
9813.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
這幾個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
9813.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
9815.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
單單條例名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
9815.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
9817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
單單立法定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
9817.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
9819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
單單阻止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
9819.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
9821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
就完全不相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
9822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
9824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
所以剛剛宗家兵建議的這三個方向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
9824.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
9826.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
9826.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
9828.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
分開做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
9828.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
9830.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
其實某一個程度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
9830.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
9832.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
也代表了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
9832.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
9834.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
中華民國立法院的荒謬之處啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
9837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
9839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
我擔任立法委員二十多年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
9839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
9841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
我從來沒有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
9841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
9843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
國防採購條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
9843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
9845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
是在經濟委員會去主審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
9845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
9847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
國防採購條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
9847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
9849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
跟發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
9849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
9851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
是放在一個條例裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
9851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
9853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
去審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
9853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
9855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
然後我們可以看到國民黨委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
9855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
9857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
版本賴世保委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
9857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
9859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
有國防戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
9859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
9861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
9861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
9863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
國外採購及技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
9863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
9865.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
合作特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
9865.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
9867.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
我要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
9867.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
9869.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
這個不是應該放在國防委員會去主審嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
9869.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
9871.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
怎麼會放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
9871.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
9873.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
經濟委員會咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
9873.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
9875.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
賴世保委員同時又提了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
9875.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
9877.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
無人載具產業升級發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
9881.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
9883.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
所以請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
9883.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
9885.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
英明、睿智的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
9888.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
9890.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
您一直講來自學術界 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
9890.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
9892.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
您一直講這個產業發展您是專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
9893.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
9895.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
就您的專業上來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
9896.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
9898.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
採購跟產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
9898.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
9900.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
我們要如何來審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
9900.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
9902.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
這麼多的不同的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
9904.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
9906.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
好我們現在請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
9907.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
9909.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
陳田飛國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
9910.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
9912.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
他要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
9912.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
9914.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
9914.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
9916.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
我想我在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
9916.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
9918.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
其實我們講得非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
9919.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
9921.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
我們無人機的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
9921.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
9923.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
基本上早就進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
9925.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
9927.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
而且在全國各地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
9927.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
9929.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
我們都有無人機的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
9932.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
9934.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
就光就台南來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
9934.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
9936.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
我們其實都一直在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
9937.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
9939.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
所以我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
9939.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
9941.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
產業發展是一個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
9941.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
9943.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
而且現在進行式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
9945.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
9947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
我不知道為什麼現在還要去談 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
9947.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
9949.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
9950.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
9952.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
這個早就在進行當中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
9952.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
9954.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
我們為什麼要把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
9954.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
9956.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
再拉回到原點呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
9956.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
9958.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
這個是一個很奇怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
9958.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
9960.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
9960.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
9962.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
重要的應該是要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
9962.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
9964.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
他們依循的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
9964.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
9966.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
當他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
9966.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
9968.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
9968.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
9972.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
出口或是要進口相關的一些物件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
9973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
9977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
要有一些採購特別條例的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
9978.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
9980.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
才能讓我們所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
9980.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
9982.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
產業發展可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
9982.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
9984.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
更邁進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
9985.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
9987.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
這是完全不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
9987.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
9989.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
可是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
9989.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
9991.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
9989.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
9991.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
9991.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
9993.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
跟採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
9993.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
9995.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
放在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
9995.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
9997.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
我不知道這怎麼審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
9997.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
9999.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
因為特別條例的方向 |
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10000.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
10002.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
10002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
10004.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
10003.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
10005.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
特別條例跟產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
10005.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
10007.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
這個是完全不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
10009.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
10011.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
所以我真的拜託說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
10011.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
10013.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
我們如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
10013.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
10015.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
為了無人機的發展好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
10016.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
10018.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
為了我們所有國防自主方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
10018.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
10020.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
有一個好的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
10024.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
10026.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
我們應該是要把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
10026.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
10028.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
10028.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
10030.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
好好地審慎處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
10030.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
10032.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
尤其國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
10032.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
10034.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
10034.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
10036.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
10036.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
10038.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
這個部分是攸關我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
10038.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
10040.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
未來國家國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
10040.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
10042.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
還有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
10042.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
10044.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
無人機的一個進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
10044.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
10046.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
發展非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
10046.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
10048.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
10048.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
10050.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
真的不能做這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
10049.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
10051.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
10051.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
10053.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
含糊不明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
10053.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
10055.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
然後不吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
10055.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
10057.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
如何去定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
10057.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
10059.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
我們的一個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
10061.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
10063.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
我們立法院不應該做這麼草率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
10063.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
10065.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
10065.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
10067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
這麼樣讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
10067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
10069.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
無所適從的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
10069.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
10071.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
10071.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
10073.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
甚至讓所有的行政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
10073.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
10075.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
覺得莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
10075.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
10077.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
甚至所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
10077.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
10079.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
國家的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
10079.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
10081.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
也面臨一個莫名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
10081.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
10083.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
奇妙的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
10083.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
10085.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
所以我們拜託主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
10085.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
10087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
我們要身兼一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
10087.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
10089.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
未來發展非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
10089.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
10091.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
重要的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
10091.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
10093.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
立法委員不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
10093.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
10095.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
如此草率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
10095.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
10097.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
面臨我們國家的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
10098.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
10100.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
好,接下來我們請這個林主任委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
10100.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
10102.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
10102.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
10104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
10104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
10106.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
我想其實我在質詢的時候也有講過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
10106.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
10108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
為什麼我們現在會審這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
10108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
10110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
無人載具的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
10110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
10112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
採購,那是因為在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
10112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
10114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
1.25兆的國防特別預算當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
10114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
10116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
整個無人機的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
10116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
10118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
整個被砍掉了4700億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
10118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
10120.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
當時我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
10120.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
10122.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
在野黨的委員也承受了非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
10122.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
10124.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
壓力,因為民眾是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
10124.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
10126.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
這個採購其實必須留下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
10126.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
10128.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
不應該全部砍掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
10128.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
10130.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
這也是為什麼後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
10130.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
10132.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
包括我相信國民黨民眾黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
10132.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
10134.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
委員也都相繼提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
10134.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
10136.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
版本希望能夠發展無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
10136.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
10138.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
載具,如果是這樣的狀況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
10138.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
10140.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
的話真的就如同前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
10140.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
10142.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
民進黨的幾位委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
10142.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
10144.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
第一個是當務之急的國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
10144.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
10146.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
採購,我們其實必須要強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
10146.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
10148.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
因為無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
10148.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
10150.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
在現在的靜態戰爭當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
10150.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
10152.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
真的就是像台灣這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
10152.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
10154.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
需要以小搏大非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
10154.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
10156.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
重要,甚至於連大國 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
10156.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
10158.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
在第一線也都是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
10158.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
10160.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
無人載具當做第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
10160.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
10162.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
去做不論是防衛或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
10162.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
10164.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
整個國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
10164.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
10166.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
自主提升的部分,那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
10166.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
10168.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
產業的發展,我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
10168.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
10170.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
其實不只是台南啦,包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
10170.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
10172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
桃園,包括宜蘭,其實現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
10172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
10174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
全國的各個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
10174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
10176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
都有超過275 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
10176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
10178.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
家的廠商,他們已經在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
10178.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
10180.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
無人載具的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
10180.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
10182.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
而發展的過程中需要的當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
10182.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
10184.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
就是穩定的訂單以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
10184.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
10186.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
政府的需求,那麼在國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
10186.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
10188.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
產業的部分,怎麼樣提供穩定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
10188.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
10190.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
訂單跟需求,那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
10190.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
10192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
就是產業發展非常重要的一環 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
10192.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
10194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
所以我還是認同就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
10194.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
10196.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
急需的採購,應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
10196.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
10198.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
要符合國防部的需求,我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
10198.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
10200.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
應該趕快來分這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
10200.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
10202.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
部分來審下去,那麼至於產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
10202.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
10204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
的發展,我相信沒有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
10204.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
10206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
敢說無人艇、無人艦、 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
10206.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
10208.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
無人機不重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
10208.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
10210.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
那麼在如何獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
10210.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
10212.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
國防上面的需求,以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
10212.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
10214.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
未來前進無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
10214.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
10216.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
的所無人載具當中的飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
10216.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
10218.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
台灣不能錯失 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
10218.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
10220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
那如何加入飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
10220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
10222.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
我想這個國防的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
10222.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
10224.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
需求一定是國防部需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
10224.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
10226.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
那麼經濟部就是給予協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
10226.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
10228.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
所以我也認同,採購跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
10228.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
10230.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
產業發展就是應該要分開來審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
10230.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
10232.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
我們今天才可能有進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
10233.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
10235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
好,接下來我們請賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
10235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
10237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
10238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
10240.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
謝謝主席,要一起更先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
10241.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
10243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
這個我們到底是現在是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
10243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
10245.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
案子趕快審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
10245.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
10247.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
還是說一直在這裡扯來扯去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
10247.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
10249.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
一直罵戰役黨,罵我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
10249.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
10251.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
只要戰役黨版本,一直罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
10251.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
10253.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
罵有什麼意義呢,請問各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
10253.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
10255.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
我們希望這個版本趕快往前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
10256.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
10258.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
對不對,趕快往前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
10258.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
10260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
不要忘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
10260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
10262.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
這是院會交辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
10262.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
10264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
下來的,我們講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
10264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
10266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
半天沒有辦法推翻院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
10266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
10268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
委員會不能推翻院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
10268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
10270.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
院會最大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
10270.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
10272.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
院會就通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
10272.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
10274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
就是經濟委員會主審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
10274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
10276.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
你口口揮,一直說國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
10276.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
10278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
要來替,還沒重新提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
10278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
10280.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
一直拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
10280.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
10282.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
對不對,不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
10282.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
10284.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
一直在扯這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
10284.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
10286.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
我們現在就來審第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
10286.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
10288.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
就是法案名稱,這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
10288.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
10290.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
大家是不是同意,不同意就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
10290.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
10292.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
要怎麼處理,還是要標管都沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
10293.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
10295.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
不要一直扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
10295.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
10297.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
然後就說,這就是這樣斷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
10297.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
10299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
請問經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
10299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
10301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
有沒有無人機產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
10301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
10303.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
沒有啊,不要隨便講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
10303.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
10305.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
沒有,根本就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
10305.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
10307.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
沒有無人機產業技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
10307.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
10309.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
升級發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
10309.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
10311.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
沒有這樣的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
10311.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
10313.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
不要隨便講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
10313.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
10315.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
我提交的有什麼不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
10316.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
10318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
我提的就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
10318.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
10320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
無人機產業技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
10320.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
10322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
升級再,升級然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
10322.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
10324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
深耕在台灣,包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
10324.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
10326.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
我們希望國外的廠商,來台灣設廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
10327.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
10329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
任何國外的,先進的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
10329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
10331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
無人艇,無人載具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
10331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
10333.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
技術,能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
10333.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
10335.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
移到台灣,投資台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
10336.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
10338.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
我們都給他,租賀的前年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
10338.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
10340.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
人才方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
10340.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
10342.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
什麼資源,等等的,比照升級條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
10342.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
10344.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
給他這樣的東西,這有什麼不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
10344.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
10346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
10346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
10348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
今天宏 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
10348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
10350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
宏委員當召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
10350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
10352.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
他主持的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
10352.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
10354.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
是有憑有據,院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
10354.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
10356.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
交下來,你再扯那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
10356.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
10358.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
一直說,啊,這個不應該在這裡審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
10358.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
10360.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
我們今天是要趕快給他審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
10360.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
10362.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
10362.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
10364.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
我們要法案名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
10364.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
10366.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
到底各位,是不是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
10366.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
10368.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
這個行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
10368.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
10370.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
那我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
10369.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
10371.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
這個發展無人機沒有人反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
10371.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
10373.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
發展無人載具,沒有人反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
10373.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
10375.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
但是我們反對,特別一算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
10376.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
10378.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
我們要編代年度一算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
10378.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
10380.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
就是這樣,差別在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
10380.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
10382.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
所以國民黨團團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
10382.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
10384.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
這個,科技發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
10384.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
10386.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
採購條例,也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
10386.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
10388.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
我這個都可以,這麼多版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
10388.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
10390.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
看大家怎麼整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
10390.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
10392.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
我覺得,與其在這裡一直檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
10392.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
10394.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
上個禮拜通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
10394.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
10396.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
上上禮拜通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
10396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
10398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
這個我們院會交辦下來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
10398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
10400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
請問各位你怎麼去否決他呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
10400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
10402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
你怎麼否決我們主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
10402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
10404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
洪主席的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
10404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
10406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
洪昭偉他的法定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
10406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
10408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
P位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
10408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
10410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
他現在就是,這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
10410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
10412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
你們到底又不要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
10412.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
10414.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
我們都要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
10414.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
10416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
你們不要是假裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
10416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
10418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
表面上要,事實上不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
10418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
10420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
一定來鬥爭而已,這個有什麼好鬥爭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
10420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
10422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
就是,你們兩千一,我們兩千四 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
10422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
10424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
給你,我們外加五百都給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
10424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
10426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
這麼快審,這麼快給他過法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
10426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
10428.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
不是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
10428.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
10430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
你會再,一定要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
10430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
10432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
一定要拿回國防委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
10432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
10434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
你又重新來喔,時間拖的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
10434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
10436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
八月底,不會刪喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
10436.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
10438.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
即便像中,這個要中委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
10438.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
10440.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
這個要中間廢委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
10440.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
10442.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
說什麼,今天出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
10442.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
10444.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
什麼,在八月底以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
10445.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
10447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
如果按照這個行程,也很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
10447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
10449.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
有什麼不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
10450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
10452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
各位你可以想一想,這趕快出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
10452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
10454.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
趕快有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
10453.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
10455.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
國防部長,難道你反對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
10455.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
10457.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
趕快給你錢,你去反對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
10457.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
10459.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
一定要特別條例,是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
10459.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
10461.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
是因為事先都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
10461.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
10463.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
想好了,還怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
10463.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
10465.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
是怎樣,就一定要特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
10465.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
10467.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
我去美國的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
10468 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
10470 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
美國的相關團隊,去要怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
10470 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
10472 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
清清楚楚,只要Bingo預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
10472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
10474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
特別預算,或者是一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
10474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
10476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
他們不care |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
10477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
10479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
主席都可以作證,他在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
10479.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
10481.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
他都有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
10480.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
10482.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
我們的揚權委員也一起都有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
10483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
10485.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
人家不會再用你特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
10485.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
10487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
還是這個一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
10487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
10489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
現在來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
10489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
10491.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
執政黨的委員制,卡在一直在糾結兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
10491.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
10493.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
第一個,一定要國防委員會審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
10495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
10497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
就院會叫下來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
10497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
10499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
第二個,一定要特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
10499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
10501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
國防部長一定要特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
10501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
10503.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
美國都說,一般預算都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
10503.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
10505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
只要變主預算,比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
10508.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
10510.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
這個案子給他過,就可以便利算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
10511.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
10513.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
好,謝一鳳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
10513.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
10515.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
兩分鐘好,拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
10515.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
10521.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
其實大家都沒有反對無人載具的相關條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
10521.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
10523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
我看了所有黨團的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
10523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
10527.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
當然,個別委員以及黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
10527.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
10529.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
從名稱開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
10529.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
10531.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
就有一點非常分歧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
10531.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
10533.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
那這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
10533.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
10535.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
就是說,如果大家都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
10535.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
10537.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
10537.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
10539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
不管是我們的國防以及產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
10539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
10541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
都有共同的幫助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
10541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
10543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
那我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
10543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
10545.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
是不是應該要儘速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
10545.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
10547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
在今天通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
10547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
10549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
就是說,如果大家有歧義的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
10549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
10551.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
我們是不是就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
10551.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
10553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
然後,等到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
10553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
10555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
讓案子出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
10555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
10557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
讓我們可以進一步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
10557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
10559.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
有進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
10559.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
10561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
不要再退回,因為如果退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
10561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
10563.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
對於整體的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
10563.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
10565.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
因為會有延宕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
10565.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
10567.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
這樣子的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
10567.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
10569.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
那是不是為了讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
10569.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
10571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
我們整體的產業發展以及國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
10571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
10573.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
都有保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
10573.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
10575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
是不是能夠儘速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
10575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
10577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
能夠在今日,然後能夠出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
10579.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
10581.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
喔,那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
10581.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
10583.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
第二輪發言再簡短一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
10583.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
10585.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
可以嗎,好不好,來,莊嘉賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
10585.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
10587.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
再來是陳廷飛再邱毅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
10587.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
10589.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
謝謝,我們可以看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
10589.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
10591.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
條文對照表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
10591.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
10593.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
請賴市法委員看看第十頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
10593.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
10595.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
10595.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
10597.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
第六條,本條例所需經費上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
10597.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
10599.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
信貸幣500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
10599.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
10601.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
以特別預算方式編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
10601.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
10603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
這個應該不是AI寫的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
10603.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
10605.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
應該是賴委員自己起草的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
10605.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
10607.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
他可能一直忘掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
10607.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
10609.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
那我想我剛剛一直坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
10609.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
10611.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
我覺得每個發言的委員都很持平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
10611.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
10613.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
並沒有什麼咧,歐北妹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
10613.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
10615.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
我想這個大家都互相尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
10615.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
10617.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
那我再強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
10617.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
10619.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
如果說,我剛剛講的以A案來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
10619.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
10621.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
先審純採購,再審非純採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
10621.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
10623.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
那純採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
10623.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
10625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
有九個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
10625.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
10627.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
賴委員的版本也在這九個版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
10627.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
10629.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
非純採購的有五個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
10629.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
10631.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
賴委員也有一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
10631.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
10633.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
在這五個版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
10633.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
10635.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
如果你要用純,先審純產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
10635.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
10637.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
如果要用純,先審純產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
10637.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
10639.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
純產發的就兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
10639.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
10641.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
一個是民眾黨的版本,一個是賴事保委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
10641.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
10643.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
非純產業發展的有十二個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
10645.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
10647.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
那至於如果要不複雜一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
10647.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
10649.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
採取C案,那麼純採購的九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
10650.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
10652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
純產業發展的兩案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
10652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
10654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
混合型的三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
10654.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
10656.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
那個,周圍的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
10656.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
10658.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
我在給你建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
10658.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
10660.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
就是說,你們要有一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
10660.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
10662.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
你要用A案、B案、還是C案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
10662.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
10664.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
要先審純採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
10664.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
10666.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
再審非純採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
10666.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
10668.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
還是要先審純產業發展,再審非純產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
10668.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
10670.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
還是分三類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
10670.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
10672.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
純產採購的一類、混合型的一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
10672.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
10674.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
純產業發展的一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
10674.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
10676.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
那不管哪一種方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
10676.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
10678.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
賴委員都保養 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
10678.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
10680.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
因為不管用哪一種方法,他有兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
10680.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
10682.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
都可以審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
10682.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
10684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
好,再來,請問賴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
10686.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
10688.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
謝謝周圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
10688.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
10690.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
其實,我們要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
10690.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
10692.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
10692.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
10694.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
10694.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
10696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
無人機的整個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
10696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
10698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
可以要進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
10698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
10700.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
這是我們大家共同的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
10701.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
10703.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
尤其我一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
10703.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
10705.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
在台南的無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
10705.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
10707.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
陸續發展當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
10707.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
10709.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
他們現在在擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
10709.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
10711.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
就是一個法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
10711.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
10713.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
在採購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
10713.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
10715.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
所以為什麼我一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
10715.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
10717.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
10717.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
10719.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
跟採購本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
10719.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
10721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
就是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
10722.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
10724.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
所以,希望最快的速度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
10724.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
10726.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
不要把這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
10726.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
10728.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
好像卡在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
10728.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
10730.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
10730.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
10732.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
10732.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
10734.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
10734.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
10736.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
10736.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
10738.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
10738.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
10740.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
10740.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
10742.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
10742.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
10744.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
10744.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
10746.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
10746.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
10748.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
10748.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
10750.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
10730.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
10732.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
這個東跟西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
10732.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
10734.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
南跟北卡來卡去的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
10734.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
10736.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
造成彼此的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
10736.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
10738.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
所以,產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
10738.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
10740.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
現在就在做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
10741.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
10743.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
因為我們經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
10743.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
10745.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
我相信我跟易營 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
10745.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
10747.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
我們在經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
10747.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
10749.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
省了那麼久的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
10749.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
10751.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
我們經濟部的無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
10751.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
10753.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
所謂的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
10753.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
10755.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
我們一直在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
10755.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
10757.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
不是沒有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
10757.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
10759.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
那你今天在做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
10759.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
10761.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
單純的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
10761.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
10763.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
是不是就把我們整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
10763.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
10765.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
脈骨往後拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
10765.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
10767.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
這是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
10767.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
10769.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
我們應該要進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
10769.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
10771.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
再加上我們的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
10771.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
10773.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
10773.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
10775.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
為者那麼急 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
10775.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
10777.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
10776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
10778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
無人機的採購自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
10778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
10780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
有它一定的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
10780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
10782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
所以為什麼國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
10782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
10784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
它利用了那麼長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
10784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
10786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
做了討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
10786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
10788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
收集所有產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
10788.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
10790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
目前被 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
10790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
10792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
這個擋住 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
10792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
10794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
然後被礙於沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
10794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
10796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
通過的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
10796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
10798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
所以這是兩個完全不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
10798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
10800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
我們就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
10800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
10802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
趕快做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
10802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
10804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
趕快弄,讓我們無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
10804.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
10806.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
產業更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
10806.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
10808.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
10807.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
10809.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
不是像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
10809.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
10811.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
有委員說我們在拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
10811.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
10813.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
拉住進度這是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
10814.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
10816.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
好,確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
10816.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
10818.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
10818.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
10820.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
這個我還是回應一下剛剛賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
10820.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
10822.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
我在發言的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
10822.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
10824.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
你大概還沒有進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
10824.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
10826.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
所以你一進來就說我們亂罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
10826.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
10828.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
我們沒有否定您的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
10828.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
10830.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
也沒有亂罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
10830.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
10832.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
我講的是說國防採購跟發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
10832.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
10834.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
這是兩個不同的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
10834.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
10836.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
我談的是兩個不同的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
10836.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
10838.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
那剛剛賴委員您特別提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
10838.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
10840.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
你支持的是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
10840.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
10842.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
編列在一般的公務預算裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
10842.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
10844.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
你並不支持用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
10844.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
10846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
去編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
10846.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
10848.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
但是您自己的提案第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
10848.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
10850.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
你就講了本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
10850.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
10852.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
所需經費上限500億以特別預算方式編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
10854.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
10856.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
所以是提案的賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
10856.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
10858.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
打臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
10858.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
10860.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
現在發言的賴世保委員嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
10860.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
10862.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
您的態度是不是有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
10862.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
10864.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
很大的變動我並不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
10864.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
10866.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
但是您的條文的確是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
10866.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
10868.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
用特別預算編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
10868.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
10870.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
除非這是AI寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
10870.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
10872.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
除非這是造謠否則白紙黑字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
10872.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
10874.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
都在大家桌面上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
10874.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
10876.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
第二我們必須再一次提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
10877.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
10881.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
國民黨支持放在公務預算裡頭去編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
10881.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
10883.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
但是行政院的統籌型計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
10883.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
10885.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
無人機的預算442億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
10885.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
10887.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
你們放話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
10887.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
10889.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
要把它刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
10889.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
10891.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
受到社會大眾的關注之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
10891.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
10893.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
你們現在改採凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
10893.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
10895.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
但是放在公務預算裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
10895.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
10897.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
會有一個非常大的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
10897.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
10901.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
今年115年的年度總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
10901.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
10903.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
到目前為止這一刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
10903.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
10905.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
現在是7月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
10905.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
10907.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
7月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
10907.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
10909.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
7月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
10909.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
10911.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
115年的年度預算並還沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
10913.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
10915.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
所以未來的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
10915.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
10917.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
放在公務預算裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
10917.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
10919.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
10919.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
10921.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
如果照現在這樣國民黨不審總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
10921.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
10923.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
請問這一些公務預算如何通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
10923.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
10925.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
國防採購無人機的採購預算如何執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
10930.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
10932.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
這個是一個很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
10932.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
10934.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
甚至未來在審查總預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10934.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10936.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
這些公務預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10936.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10938.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
被你們大刀一砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10938.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10940.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10940.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10942.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
載具的預算有可能就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10942.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10944.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
莫名其妙就被砍掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10944.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10946.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
不知不覺的就被砍掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10946.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10948.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
放在特別預算裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10948.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10950.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
只要一砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10950.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10952.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
大家都看得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10952.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10954.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
那這是不是也是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10954.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10956.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
這個狸貓換太子的一個手段之一呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10956.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10958.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
基本上我們都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10958.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10960.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
國防採購應該要立刻審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
10960.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10962.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
支持無人載具的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10962.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10964.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
要立刻審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10964.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10966.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
但是要怎麼審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10966.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10968.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
這是兩個不同的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
10968.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
10970.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
這也是我們一直在強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
10970.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
10972.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
要兩個不同的概念要怎麼放在一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
10972.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
10974.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
這是今天要討論的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
10974.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
10976.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
好 我們發言的時候就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
10976.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
10978.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
賴世保委員、羅化德蘇賓委員、郭國仁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
10978.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
10980.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
再參議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
10980.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
10982.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
啊對不起 遺掉一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
10982.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
10984.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
10983.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
10985.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
10986.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
10988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
好你先講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
10988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
10990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
賴世保、羅蘇賓、郭國仁跟蔡英文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
10990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
10992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
因為你更會交付下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
10993.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
10995.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
我們依著程序在走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
10996.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
10998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
10997.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
10999.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
大家都認為無人機是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
10999.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
11001.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
而且無人機是目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
11001.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
11003.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
不對正作戰的核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
11004.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
11006.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
我們跟時間在賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
11006.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
11008.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
沒有理由在拖延時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
11008.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
11010.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
我們跟時間在賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
11010.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
11012.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
沒有理由在拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
11012.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
11014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
今天又會交付下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
11014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
11016.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
由主席所列出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
11016.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
11020.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
我們應該要一條一條的來審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
11020.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
11022.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
因為我們看到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
11022.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
11024.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
在政府部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
11024.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
11026.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
也就是這個六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
11026.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
11028.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
442億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
11028.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
11030.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
一年等於80億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
11030.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
11032.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
我們認為絕對是不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
11032.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
11034.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
所以沒有理由在主導這個條例趕快通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
11038.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
11040.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
我們不要再阻擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
11040.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
11042.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
今天大家都說非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
11042.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
11044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
所以我建請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
11044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
11046.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
既然剛剛所有的委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
11046.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
11048.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
都認為無人機非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
11048.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
11050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
更是我們護國神山的重要關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
11050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
11052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
所以請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
11052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
11054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
我們趕快從第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
11054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
11056.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
趕快來審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
11056.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
11058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
11058.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
11060.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
好,285 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
11060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
11062.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
謝謝林進長很多委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
11063.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
11065.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
11065.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
11067.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
你說怎麼會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
11067.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
11069.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
我過去沒有打臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
11069.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
11071.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
因為我的版本就放在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
11071.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
11073.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
行政院的特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
11073.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
11075.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
也放在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
11075.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
11077.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
行政院的特別條例跟國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
11077.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
11079.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
11079.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
11081.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
一般條例都放在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
11081.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
11083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
每一個委員有的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
11083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
11085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
有的一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
11085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
11087.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
產業方面的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
11087.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
11089.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
我沒有提預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
11089.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
11091.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
但是我就要提一個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
11091.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
11093.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
就放在一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
11093.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
11095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
這是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
11095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
11097.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
這有什麼說我否定我自己沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
11097.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
11099.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
但是把條例放在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
11099.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
11101.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
剛才中間的委員來指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
11101.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
11103.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
感謝指教,放在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
11103.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
11105.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
我沒有逃避,我就放在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
11105.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
11107.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
我的意思就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
11107.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
11111.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
但是我的跟國防部最大不一樣在哪裡 |
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11112.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
11114.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
國防部就是好不讓當意思賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
11115.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
11117.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
11117.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
11119.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
21萬架 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
11119.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
11121.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
剛接的只有2000架左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
11121.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
11123.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
我的條例是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
11123.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
11125.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
我買進來一定要技術申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
11125.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
11127.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
我一定要技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
11127.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
11129.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
Obset裡面最少40%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
11129.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
11131.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
沒有這個東西我就不買 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
11131.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
11133.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
我這是有條件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
11133.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
11135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
我放進來了一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
11135.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
11137.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
因為院會我原來是說需要分開兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
11137.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
11139.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
但院會已經交辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
11139.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
11141.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
那就是大家一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
11141.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
11143.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
各位與其糾結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
11143.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
11145.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
再說一定要分開兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
11145.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
11147.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
你不如趕快一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
11147.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
11149.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
因為總共行政院的就是七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
11149.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
11151.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
扣掉七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
11151.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
11153.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
扣掉條文的名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
11153.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
11155.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
主管單位14日期 |
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11155.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
11157.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
只剩四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
11158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
11160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
行政院分明只有四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
11160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
11162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
我們的加加減減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
11162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
11164.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
有共識就給他過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
11164.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
11166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
沒有共識就保留學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
11166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
11168.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
這樣才能夠往前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
11168.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
11170.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
至於說你一定要放在特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
11170.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
11172.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
放在什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
11172.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
11174.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
最後再來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
11174.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
11176.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
院會再來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
11176.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
11178.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
今天來講的話我們就很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
11177.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
11179.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
我的PM就是兩個一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
11179.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
11181.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
我一個是沒有預算的就只有一個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
11181.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
11183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
另外一個是500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
11183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
11185.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
是一定要技術 |
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11185.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
11187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
升級技術深耕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
11187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
11189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
的案子我沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
11189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
11191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
逃避怎麼會說我打臉過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
11191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
11193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
那什麼沒有啊那什麼都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
11193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
11195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
在這裡啊一直我的提案就很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
11195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
11197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
啊我就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
11197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
11199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
對我特別預算沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
11199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
11201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
但是我要技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
11201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
11203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
不一樣我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
11203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
11205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
我的就比國防部的高級一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
11205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
11207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
比較advanced一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
11207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
11209.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
我不能去背你啊我都背BGA |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
11209.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
11211.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
我要高級一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
11211.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
11213.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
第一個我要高級一點我要技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
11213.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
11215.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
我要吸引更多國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
11215.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
11217.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
高級的無人機的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
11217.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
11219.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
來台灣設廠我是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
11219.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
11221.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
我沒有逃避什麼逃避 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
11221.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
11223.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
但是因為院會交辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
11223.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
11225.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
要放在一起審我們就尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
11225.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
11227.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
這樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
11227.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
11229.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
11229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
11231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
有書兵委員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
11234.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
11236.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
11236.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
11238.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
本黨呢就已經有看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
11238.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
11240.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
國防部裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
11240.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
11242.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
非常重要的一個要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
11242.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
11244.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
自主國防自主的這個意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
11244.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
11246.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
在裡面我們可以看到國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
11246.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
11248.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
裡面他有強調一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
11248.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
11250.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
要除了後職國防產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
11250.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
11252.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
還打造飛鴻供應鏈那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
11252.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
11254.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
針對這個地方呢剛才大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
11254.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
11256.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
有提到的很多的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
11256.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
11258.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
包括說採購啦還包括產業但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
11258.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
11260.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
我們是唯一有兼顧到兩者的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
11260.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
11262.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
為什麼我們這樣說因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
11262.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
11264.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
這次的強調的如果是照著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
11264.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
11266.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
採購的部分去講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
11266.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
11268.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
就是國防的工業呢他未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
11268.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
11270.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
呢直到六年之後就是還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
11270.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
11272.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
只有採購而已但是我們終點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
11272.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
11274.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
是不希望是這個預算取向把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
11274.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
11276.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
2100億讓他變成說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
11276.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
11278.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
產業是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
11278.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
11280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
透過政府的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
11280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
11282.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
放上去尤其大家也可以確定我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
11282.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
11284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
當然已經覺得到說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
11284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
11286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
全世界的飛鴻的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
11286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
11288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
就是非共產國家他是願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
11288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
11290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
花錢去支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
11290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
11292.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
所以我們是不是能夠在這個期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
11292.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
11294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
之內把自己有自主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
11294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
11296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
工業產業拉出來就必須靠著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
11296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
11298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
11303.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
11305.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
民眾黨這邊所重視到的要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
11305.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
11307.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
用的是一個長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
11307.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
11309.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
的是一個市場驅動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
11309.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
11311.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
的力量那市場驅動的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
11311.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
11313.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
就必須要有產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
11313.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
11315.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
這邊是最重要的而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
11315.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
11317.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
如果產業發展很產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
11317.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
11319.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
竟然是作為要支持到國防的自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
11319.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
11321.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
產業那就必須要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
11321.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
11323.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
又放在我們的一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
11323.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
11325.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
預算來進行這是本黨第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
11325.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
11327.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
重要的差別第二個部分在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
11327.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
11329.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
於飛鴻供應鏈的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
11329.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
11331.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我們可以看到國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
11331.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
11333.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
國防部無情證院的這版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
11333.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
11335.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
它七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
11336.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
11338.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
它的七條版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
11338.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
11340.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
並沒有說這個飛鴻的供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
11340.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
11342.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
到底是怎麼去認證的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
11342.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
11344.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
本黨的部分包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
11344.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
11346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
還有很多在說你要達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
11346.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
11348.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
這個空域不就是我們現在缺少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
11348.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
11350.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
的在於他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
11350.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
11352.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
空域 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
11352.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
11354.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
11354.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
11356.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
空域的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
11356.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
11358.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
空域的部分的測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
11358.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
11360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
測試場式跟他的一個認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
11360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
11362.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
都需要有更具體的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
11362.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
11364.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
規劃那本黨是很負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
11364.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
11366.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
提出來這些相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
11366.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
11368.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
但所謂的飛鴻供應鏈不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
11368.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
11370.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
只是口號而是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
11370.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
11372.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
這樣子的一個很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
11372.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
11374.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
的怎麼樣把紅色供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
11374.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
11376.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
去除到飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
11376.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
11378.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
去掉飛鴻供應鏈上面的認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
11378.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
11380.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
這就是我們這邊所要強調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
11380.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
11382.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
有必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
11382.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
11384.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
好接下來我們請郭國恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
11389.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
11391.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
11391.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
11393.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
剛剛您聽那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
11393.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
11395.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
操演時間對話 親筆上有一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
11395.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
11397.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
雞同鴨講的那種感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
11397.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
11399.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
不過在過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
11399.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
11401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
還有一定的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
11401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
11403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
共識的部分就是本黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
11403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
11405.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
希望用特別預算的方式跟賴斯堡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
11405.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
11407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
委員是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
11407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
11409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
如果是這樣子是不是從有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
11409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
11411.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
面的部分來做切入 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
11411.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
11413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
剛剛楊瓊瑩委員說提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
11413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
11415.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
在產業發展在經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
11415.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
11417.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
的部分440而已好像太少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
11417.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
11419.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
其實如果再加上國務部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
11419.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
11421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
版本2100億加起來好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
11421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
11423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
也不會太少 更何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
11423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
11425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
不論從供給面也好從需求面也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
11425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
11427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
它有不同的面向可以形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
11427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
11429.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
一個共同目標 但切入點會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
11429.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
11431.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
有不同 因為國務部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
11431.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
11433.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
其實是從作戰需求的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
11433.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
11435.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
也就是從需求面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
11435.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
11437.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
來營造供給面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
11437.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
11439.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
達到採購的裝備跟形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
11439.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
11441.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
戰力的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
11441.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
11443.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
而經濟部的部分比較像是一個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
11443.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
11445.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
供應鏈跟技術與產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
11445.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
11447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
的部分 這樣的部分其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
11447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
11449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
不應該錯置也不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
11449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
11451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
混為一談 但國民黨跟民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
11451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
11453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
版本當中又含測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
11453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
11455.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
產業聚落出口市場還有一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
11455.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
11457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
公共採購老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
11457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
11459.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
老實說會把建軍的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
11459.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
11461.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
跟產業的扶植混在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
11461.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
11463.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
然後我們讓產業發展就交給經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
11463.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
11465.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
來處理 因為已經有無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
11465.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
11467.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
產業發展計畫了 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
11467.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
11469.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
這樣的情況底下讓經濟部去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
11469.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
11471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
發展產業需求讓國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
11471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
11473.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
來完成建軍的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
11475.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
11477.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
好 接下來請蔡議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
11479.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
11481.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
我負荷郭國恩委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
11481.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
11483.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
那如果朝野 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
11483.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
11485.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
的我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
11485.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
11487.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
大家的共識是在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
11487.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
11489.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
特別預算可以優先處理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
11489.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
11491.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
那我們可以立即處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
11491.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
11493.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
那基本上我還是要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
11493.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
11495.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
像國民黨版本所提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
11495.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
11497.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
用年度預算每年編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
11497.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
11499.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
400億這樣的一個架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
11499.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
11501.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
它永遠會卡在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
11501.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
11503.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
總預算到底什麼時候通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
11503.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
11505.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
那比方說我們在上禮拜一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
11505.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
11507.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
的時候 我們經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
11507.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
11509.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
有到這個我們嘉義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
11509.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
11511.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
這個亞創 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
11511.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
11513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
去做限定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
11513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
11515.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
一個匯寬 那這個亞創 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
11515.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
11517.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
目前它需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
11517.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
11519.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
包括說它裡面的一些設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
11519.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
11521.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
未來如果做無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
11521.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
11523.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
測試的一個場域的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
11523.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
11525.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
它是需要投入相關的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
11525.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
11527.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
所以它需要的預算差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
11527.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
11529.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
11億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
11529.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
11531.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
那這個預算行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
11531.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
11533.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
都已經同意就卡在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
11533.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
11535.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
總預算還沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
11535.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
11537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
那所以這樣一拖你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
11537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
11539.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
今年度已經拖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
11539.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
11541.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
7個多月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
11541.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
11543.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
事實上這樣的一個延宕都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
11543.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
11545.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
時間的浪費 所以我們對於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
11545.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
11547.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
你們用年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
11547.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
11549.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
預算來編列 那年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
11549.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
11551.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
沒有辦法通過也許不是因為無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
11551.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
11553.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
是其他的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
11553.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
11555.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
總是它會去卡住 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
11555.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
11557.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
一旦卡住的話就會造成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
11557.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
11559.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
產業它所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
11559.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
11561.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
一些預算的支持就會不見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
11561.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
11563.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
就是這麼簡單 所以我們還是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
11563.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
11565.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
大家如果支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
11565.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
11567.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
無人機產業的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
11567.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
11569.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
就用特別預算 而且既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
11569.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
11571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
剛剛這樣一輪的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
11571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
11573.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
特別預算既然有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
11573.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
11575.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
已經有共識的話 那我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
11575.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
11577.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
從這裡來開始審議吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
11579.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
11581.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
好 我們從第一條就開始好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
11581.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
11583.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
因為我告訴你我都看完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
11583.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
11585.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
名稱就是名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
11585.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
11587.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
11588.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
11590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
名稱的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
11593.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
11595.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
嗯 我就保留啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
11598.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
11600.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
不是 因為對我們本黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
11600.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
11602.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
對我們本黨來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
11602.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
11604.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
就是一樣啊 我就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
11604.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
11606.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
支持年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
11606.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
11608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
你這樣的主持 這樣的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
11608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
11610.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
叫做過水 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
11610.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
11612.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
名稱就有三種 我剛剛就講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
11612.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
11614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
是三個不同的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
11614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
11616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
那大家要不要討論 你都還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
11616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
11618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
討論你馬上就講說那三種不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
11618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
11620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
那就保留 那你就是在過水嘛 你很明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
11620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
11622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
就是在過水嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
11622.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
11624.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
不是 我們說第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
11624.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
11626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
我覺得這樣子講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
11626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
11628.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
我覺得這樣子對主席不公平啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
11628.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
11630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
我覺得這樣子對主席不公平啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
11630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
11632.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
剛剛我們審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
11632.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
11634.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
已經大家發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
11634.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
11636.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
這麼多次 然後主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
11636.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
11638.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
有說了大家各自的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
11638.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
11640.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
版本 主席也表示他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
11640.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
11642.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
民眾黨的名稱希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
11642.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
11644.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
是什麼 剛剛我也提出國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
11644.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
11646.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
的名稱是什麼 我支持國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
11646.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
11648.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
這就是這樣子啊 所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
11648.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
11650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
大家充分討論已經超過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
11650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
11652.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
快一個鐘頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
11652.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
11654.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
應該要針對於我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
11654.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
11656.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
進度第一條 到底要怎麼處理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
11658.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
11660.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
主席我支持用賴氏八五員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
11660.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
11662.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
特別預算的方式 有特別預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
11662.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
11664.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
都先審啦 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
11664.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
11666.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
賴氏八五有一個無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
11666.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
11668.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
升級發展 他兩個都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
11668.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
11670.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
先審他有特別預算的 那就是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
11671.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
11673.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
因為你已經都討論了 我就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
11673.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
11675.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
今天我們也不想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
11675.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
11677.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
大家充分共事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
11677.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
11679.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
你們要支持我這個案子 你們要支持五百億喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
11679.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
11681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
我就從兩千一百億砍成五百億喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
11681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
11683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
我是支持用特別預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
11683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
11685.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
賴氏八五員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
11685.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
11687.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
我支持賴氏八五員用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
11687.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
11689.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
他是說方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
11689.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
11691.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
不是支持你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
11691.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
11693.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
那我們現在是要談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
11693.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
11695.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
法案名稱嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
11695.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
11697.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
11697.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
11699.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
不要再講到其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
11699.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
11701.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
11701.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
11703.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
11703.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
11705.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
11705.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
11707.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
11707.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
11709.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
11709.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
11711.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
11711.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
11713.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
11713.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
11715.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
11715.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
11717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
11717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
11719.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
11719.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
11721.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
11721.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
11723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
11723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
11725.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
11725.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
11727.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
11706.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
11708.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
我們現在是第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
11708.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
11710.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
賴氏八五員的提案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
11710.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
11712.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
所以我們找說有沒有公約數嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
11712.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
11714.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
那如果公約數的話就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
11715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
11717.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
國防採購技術合作特別調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
11717.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
11719.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
國防採購技術合作特別調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
11719.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
11721.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
這個名稱很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
11720.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
11722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
這個名稱很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
11722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
11724.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
我們支持賴氏八五員的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
11724.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
11726.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
國外採購技術合作特別調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
11729.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
11731.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
主席啊 這個到了最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
11731.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
11733.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
每一個委員都有提案的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
11733.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
11735.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
每一個黨團也都有提案的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
11735.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
11737.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
剛進到委員會的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
11737.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
11739.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
目標不就是要整合出一個版本嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
11739.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
11741.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
到最後你只能刪除一個版本嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
11741.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
11743.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
這是大家都同意的事嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
11743.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
11745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
那今天大家支持不一樣的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
11745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
11747.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
但本席就是堅持國民黨黨團的版本啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
11747.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
11749.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
那今天大家各執一池堅持己見的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
11749.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
11751.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
不就是保留嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
11751.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
11753.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
這就是委員會的慣例啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
11753.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
11755.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
不就是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
11753.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
11755.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
所以我講今天本席的態度就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
11755.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
11757.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
我就是堅持國民黨黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
11757.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
11759.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
堅持民眾黨的版本啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
11759.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
11761.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
是啊 那就這樣了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
11760.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
11762.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
那要嘛我們可以在這邊一直講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
11762.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
11764.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
這樣子對於快速通過有沒有幫助嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
11764.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
11766.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
沒有就沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
11766.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
11768.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
法案明天已經一個鐘頭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
11768.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
11770.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
我們更時間賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
11770.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
11772.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
請主席做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
11771.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
11773.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
做裁決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
11778.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
11782.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
法案條名稱所有版本提案均保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
11787.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
11789.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
好我們接下來進行第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
11791.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
11793.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
進進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
11793.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
11795.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
11803.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
11805.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
好那跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
11805.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
11809.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
那我們這邊還是建立行政院版本的第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
11809.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
11811.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
那我們的理由是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
11811.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
11813.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
11813.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
11815.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
11815.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
11817.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
裡面的這個版本涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
11817.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
11819.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
就是說產業發展的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
11819.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
11821.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
我們已經有在產創條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
11821.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
11823.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
還有行政院的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
11823.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
11825.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
產業發展統修行計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
11825.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
11827.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
都已經有納入相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
11827.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
11829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
研發補助租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
11829.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
11831.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
人才培育跟資金協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
11831.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
11833.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
的一些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
11833.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
11835.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
那另外國防法裡面也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
11836.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
11838.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
這個針對工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
11838.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
11840.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
也有做一些規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
11840.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
11842.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
所以我們還是建立就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
11842.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
11844.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
是不是可以聚焦在無人機的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
11844.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
11846.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
國防採購上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
11846.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
11848.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
11848.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
11850.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
11849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
11851.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
請各位請問各位有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
11852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
11854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
從這邊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
11854.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
11858.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
其實剛剛因為幾位委員的表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
11858.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
11860.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
沒有錯我們要尋求共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
11860.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
11862.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
那因為呢尋求共識的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
11862.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
11864.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
就自己要先讓步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
11864.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
11866.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
如果大家各自堅持不讓步就絕對不會有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
11866.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
11868.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
所以雖然我有一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
11868.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
11870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
行政院有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
11870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
11872.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
那本黨團有很多人提出版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
11872.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
11874.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
但是我願意率先做一個示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
11874.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
11876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
為了尋求共識先讓步 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
11876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
11878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
我覺得賴斯巴爾委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
11878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
11880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
國防戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
11880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
11882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
國外採購及技術合作特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
11882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
11884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
的第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
11884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
11886.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
面對國防安全情勢日益嚴峻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
11886.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
11888.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
11888.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
11890.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
要強化我國的情報監視偵查及精準打擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
11890.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
11892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
等等等多重嚇阻能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
11892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
11894.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
並結合美國及其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
11894.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
11896.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
先進戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
11896.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
11898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
服務以技術移轉及工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
11898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
11900.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
提升我國無人載具產業自治組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
11900.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
11902.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
研發產製及維修能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
11902.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
11904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
確保國家安全與國防自治組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
11904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
11906.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
11906.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
11908.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
我支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
11910.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
11912.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
楊瓊瑩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
11912.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
11914.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
其實我們看到行政院的版本第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
11914.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
11916.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
跟我們國民黨的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
11916.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
11918.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
為意新世代 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
11918.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
11920.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
科技戰爭形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
11920.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
11922.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
強化台灣國防之不對稱的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
11922.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
11924.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
推動軍民通用科技雙向轉移 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
11924.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
11928.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
引導民間卓越的這個資通訊與精密機械產能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
11928.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
11930.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
投入國防產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
11930.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
11934.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
落實國防自主與產業升級之雙重效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
11934.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
11936.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
雙重效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
11936.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
11938.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
並建立符合民主供應鏈標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
11938.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
11940.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
排除了高風險供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
11945.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
11947.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
特制定本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
11947.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
11949.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
所以這個條例的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
11949.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
11951.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
我想比行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
11951.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
11953.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
更加的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
11953.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
11955.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
這個周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
11955.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
11957.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
所以我們敬請支持國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
11957.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
11959.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
第一條的一個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
11959.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
11961.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
11962.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
11964.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
謝謝瑩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
11967.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
11969.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
11969.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
11971.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
基本上我附議一下中嘉濱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
11971.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
11973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
11973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
11975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
真的賴世保委員的這個國防戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
11975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
11977.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
國外採購及 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
11977.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
11979.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
技術合作特別條例裡頭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
11979.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
11981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
第一條的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
11981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
11983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
我認為更加的完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
11983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
11985.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
11985.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
11987.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
11987.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
11991.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
更加精準的表達其實我們在國防戰略上面的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
11991.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
11993.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
那我附議中嘉濱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
11993.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
11995.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
我也希望能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
11995.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
11997.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
楊全英委員可能也忘記了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
11997.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
11999.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
你也是這個提案的共同提案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
11999.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
12001.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
所以你現在反而不支持這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
12001.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
12003.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
我也覺得怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
12005.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
12007.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
今天我們是在跟時間賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
12007.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
12009.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
我們要怎麼樣研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
12009.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
12011.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
能夠更周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
12011.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
12013.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
所以我請各位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
12013.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
12015.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
我們經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
12015.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
12017.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
不管國防委員會或者是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
12017.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
12019.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
12019.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
12021.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
大家都是非常的希望無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
12021.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
12023.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
能夠趕快去通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
12023.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
12025.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
所以我覺得再多的政治化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
12025.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
12027.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
對於無人機的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
12027.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
12029.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
或者是國防自主都沒有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
12031.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
12033.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
好 賴慧媛委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
12033.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
12035.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
12035.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
12037.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
我想我附議中嘉濱跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
12037.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
12039.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
邱毅穎委員的一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
12039.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
12041.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
那當然我也支持賴世保 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
12041.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
12043.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
委員在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
12043.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
12045.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
12045.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
12047.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
第一條法案的一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
12047.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
12049.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
那以上是表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
12049.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
12051.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
本席的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
12052 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
12054 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
賴世保完再呈答題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
12054 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
12056 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
我們謝謝大家的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
12056 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
12058 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
大家如果可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
12058 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
12060 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
用我的版本第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
12060 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
12062 |
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我當然很高興的接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
12062 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
12064 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
那就第一條按照我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
12064.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
12066.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
12066.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
12068.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
謝謝主席我們特別講爆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
12068.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
12070.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
就是說關於這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
12071.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
12073.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
這個條裡面還有一個很重要的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
12073.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
12075.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
就是要跟美國及其他國家合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
12075.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
12077.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
12077 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
12079 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
工業合作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
12079 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
12081 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
所以說我對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
12081 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
12083 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
中委員的說法我是認同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
12084.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
12086.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
好 王安祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
12086.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
12088.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
好 我說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
12088.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
12090.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
比如說黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
12090.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
12092.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
那因為我們這個版本基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
12092.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
12094.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
兼顧了這個國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
12094.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
12096.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
然後同時我們也在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
12096.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
12098.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
我們的條例裡面有講到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
12098.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
12100.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
我們協助這個大家都非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
12100.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
12102.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
重視台灣本地無人機產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
12102.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
12104.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
發展的升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
12104.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
12106.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
那因為現在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
12106.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
12108.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
這一次的無人機的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
12108.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
12110.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
有別於過去我們傳統上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
12110.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
12112.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
的那個FMX的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
12112.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
12114.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
那無人機裡面又發行軍規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
12114.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
12116.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
跟這個山規的軍用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
12116.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
12118.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
12118.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
12120.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
這個再考慮到我剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
12120.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
12122.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
這些版本裡面我們應該在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
12122.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
12124.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
我們第一條裡面是比較全面有涵蓋到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
12124.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
12126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
12125.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
12127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
12129.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
12131.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
好 還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
12133.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
12135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
目前看起來就是國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
12135.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
12137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
就是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
12137.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
12139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
版本 然後在民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
12139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
12141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
的版本的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
12141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
12143.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
12142.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
12144.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
其實就是軍民的通用技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
12144.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
12146.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
這個跟國民黨一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
12146.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
12148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
然後國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
12148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
12150.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
另外我們再加一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
12150.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
12152.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
所謂的非 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
12152.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
12154.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
民主供應鏈 或者是像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
12154.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
12156.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
行政院講的非宏供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
12156.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
12158.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
然後另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
12158.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
12160.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
進入這個國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
12160.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
12162.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
因為是產業發展嘛 我們要做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
12162.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
12164.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
輸出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
12164.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
12166.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
那賴世保委員的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
12166.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
12168.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
應該就是講了結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
12168.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
12170.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
美國其他先進戰略的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
12170.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
12172.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
各自有各自的支持者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
12175.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
12177.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
所以是不是請國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
12177.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
12179.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
可以表示一下意見 因為我們這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
12179.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
12181.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
執政黨支持賴世保委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
12181.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
12183.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
我很擔心我們顧部長回去行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
12183.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
12185.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
他交代不過去 他要表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
12192.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
12194.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
美國隊長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
12197.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
12199.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
主席 各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
12199.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
12201.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
第一點就是說 就法案的名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
12201.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
12203.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
我還是說明一下 因為他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
12203.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
12205.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
主要三個要素 第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
12205.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
12207.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
法案名稱討論過了 就第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
12207.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
12209.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
我只是因為後續要面對第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
12209.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
12211.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
因為他重點是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
12211.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
12213.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
國防自主這第一個 第二個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
12213.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
12215.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
採購 那採購的標 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
12215.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
12217.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
要有相關的標的 所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
12217.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
12219.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
在後面的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
12219.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
12221.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
應該有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
12221.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
12223.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
我現在在第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
12223.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
12225.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
相關的標的有做一個說明 然後另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
12225.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
12227.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
我們用特別條例 所以有特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
12227.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
12229.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
那我現在說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
12229.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
12231.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
第一條的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
12231.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
12235.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
會延續後面我們要採購的相關的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
12235.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
12237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
那這個延續相關的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
12237.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
12239.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
的部分就是我們著重於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
12239.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
12241.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
這個濱海健身型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
12241.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
12243.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
濱海攻擊型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
12243.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
12245.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
以及這個無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
12245.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
12247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
但國民黨的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
12247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
12249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
後面的提案的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
12249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
12251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
版本 他是將所有的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
12251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
12253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
都放進去 那相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
12253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
12255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
無人載具都放進去 因為無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
12255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
12257.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
的範圍非常的廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
12257.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
12259.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
不只是這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
12259.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
12261.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
我們現行的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
12261.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
12263.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
濱海健身型的跟濱海攻擊型 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
12263.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
12265.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
還有無人艇 那裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
12265.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
12267.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
還會涉及到地面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
12267.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
12269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
還有水下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
12269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
12271.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
還有各式可能發展的這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
12271.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
12273.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
這些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
12273.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
12275.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
所以我個人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
12275.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
12277.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
如果大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
12277.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
12279.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
把將所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
12279.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
12281.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
我們要採購的特定的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
12281.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
12283.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
項目跟未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
12283.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
12285.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
可能在發展出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
12285.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
12287.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
12286.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
12288.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
不同的這些無人載具項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
12288.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
12290.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
甚至將國內自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
12290.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
12292.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
跟國外採購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
12292.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
12294.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
全部都混在一起來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
12294.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
12296.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
這件事情的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
12296.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
12298.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
幾乎是完全沒有一個明確的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
12298.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
12300.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
在沒有明確的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
12300.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
12302.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
的情況之下 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
12302.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
12304.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
法案就會變得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
12305.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
12307.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
就國防部的立場 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
12307.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
12309.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
沒有辦法來確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
12309.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
12311.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
12311.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
12313.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
應該通過這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
12313.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
12315.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
對我們的作戰需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
12315.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
12317.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
以及未來我們可能的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
12317.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
12319.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
它到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
12320.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
12322.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
意義何在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
12322.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
12324.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
那如果說是著重於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
12324.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
12326.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
可能各種的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
12326.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
12328.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
發展的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
12328.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
12330.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
各種的產業發展的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
12330.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
12332.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
我想這個就屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
12332.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
12334.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
經濟部應該要做的關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
12334.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
12336.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
那我也一直在強調 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
12336.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
12338.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
國防部及國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
12338.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
12340.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
我們採購了特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
12340.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
12342.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
項目 我們就希望陷在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
12342.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
12344.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
項目裡面 那剛剛有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
12344.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
12346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
提到這個賴斯堡委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
12346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
12348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
第一條的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
12348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
12350.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
我想賴斯堡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
12350.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
12352.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
的第一條 他結合後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
12352.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
12354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
的條文 他著重的都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
12354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
12356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
在於其他的這些各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
12356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
12358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
可能比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
12358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
12360.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
我們來講不是屬於一二類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
12360.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
12362.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
的這些無人機 屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
12362.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
12364.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
大型的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
12364.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
12366.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
的無人機 那這個也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
12366.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
12368.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
又是另外一種型態 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
12368.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
12370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
那這種型態的這個無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
12370.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
12372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
是屬於我們放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
12372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
12374.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
不管是多扣過商購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
12374.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
12376.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
或軍購的項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
12376.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
12378.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
去設計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
12382.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
12384.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
國外的商購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
12384.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
12386.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
或者是軍購的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
12386.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
12388.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
我們會另外以其他的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
12388.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
12390.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
來補足 那我們強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
12390.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
12392.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
我們這一次的預算就強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
12392.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
12394.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
在這個特定的這幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
12394.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
12396.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
的這個無人機跟無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
12396.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
12398.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
然後強調在是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
12398.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
12400.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
要強化防衛韌性 所以要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
12400.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
12402.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
完全的光這個自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
12402.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
12404.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
的產制 那所以這 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
12404.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
12406.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
兩個的目的是相當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
12406.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
12408.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
不一樣的 希望有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
12408.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
12410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
明顯的一個區隔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
12410.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
12412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
那這個是廣布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
12412.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
12414.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
這個立場 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
12414.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
12416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
希望各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
12416.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
12418.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
12418.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
12420.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
將我們所提在的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
12420.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
12422.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
比較單純的這些採購項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
12422.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
12424.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
以特別條例的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
12424.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
12426.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
然後後續會將特別預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
12426.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
12428.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
送進來 那希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
12428.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
12430.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
各位委員能夠加以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
12431.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
12433.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
好 謝謝 接下來總教兵委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
12434.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
12436.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
好 我一向很敬重我們顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
12436.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
12438.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
過去在第十屆我們第九屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
12438.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
12440.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
我們是立法院的同事 但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
12440.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
12442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
我是覺得呢 我們在思考問題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
12442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
12444.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
不要陷入了大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
12444.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
12446.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
貓走大洞 小貓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
12446.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
12448.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
走小洞 這個大家聽過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
12448.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
12450.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
故事 愛因斯坦還是哪一個哲學家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
12450.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
12452.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
科學家 他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
12452.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
12454.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
大貓要走大洞 小貓走小洞 其實你有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
12454.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
12456.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
大洞 大貓小貓都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
12456.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
12458.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
鑽啊 那我來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
12458.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
12460.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
賴斯巴委員的提案 為什麼我會覺得他寫得也不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
12460.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
12462.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
呢 因為他在第一條的部分他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
12462.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
12464.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
為強化我國情報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
12464.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
12466.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
監視 偵查與精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
12466.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
12468.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
打擊 行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
12468.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
12470.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
說要偵查及精準攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
12470.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
12472.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
只差兩項 他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
12472.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
12474.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
12473.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
12475.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
行政院版沒有情報跟監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
12475.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
12477.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
那我所知道的沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
12477.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
12479.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
我長期在關注行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
12479.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
12481.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
預算 尤其在MQ9V |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
12481.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
12483.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
他就是屬於一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
12483.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
12485.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
比現在的高空預警機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
12485.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
12487.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
他更具有高空的一個偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
12487.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
12489.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
能力 他也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
12489.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
12491.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
監視能力也可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
12491.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
12493.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
情報的一個輸送 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
12493.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
12495.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
12494.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
12496.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
賴斯巴委員的這四個項目就像是大洞一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
12497.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
12499.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
那今天故長說 我只要兩項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
12499.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
12501.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
我只要一個小洞 你不要給我大洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
12501.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
12503.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
難道小貓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
12503.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
12505.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
可以鑽小洞 小貓不能走大洞嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
12505.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
12507.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
如果這個特別預算能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
12507.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
12509.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
給行政院獲制 那你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
12509.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
12511.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
拿去集中在買 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
12511.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
12513.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
偵查及精準攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
12513.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
12515.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
這也沒有妨礙啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
12515.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
12517.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
沒有妨礙啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
12517.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
12519.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
賴委員他比較寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
12519.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
12521.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
他說我給你的這個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
12521.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
12523.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
你可以去做情報監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
12523.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
12525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
這個是MQ9V的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
12525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
12527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
或者說偵查或精準打擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
12527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
12529.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
這就涉及到自殺無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
12529.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
12531.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
的一個作為 那這個也很不衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
12531.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
12533.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
倒是呢 我這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
12533.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
12535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
因為既然討論條文 我也不是完全無條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
12535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
12537.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
接受賴委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
12537.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
12539.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
我也是覺得這裡面有一個名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
12539.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
12541.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
很重要 一個叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
12541.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
12543.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
12543.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
12545.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
目前世界上各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
12545.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
12547.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
好像成為一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
12547.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
12549.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
但在法律條文當中它並沒有被定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
12549.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
12551.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
紅是哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
12550.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
12552.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
是PRZ是紅嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
12553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
12555.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
中國人民共和國是紅嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
12556.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
12558.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
越南是不是紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
12558.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
12560.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
我就不清楚越南是不是紅啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
12560.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
12562.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
今天不算算不算紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
12561.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
12563.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
這個我也不清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
12563.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
12565.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
倒是賴委員這邊寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
12565.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
12567.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
結合美國及其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
12567.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
12569.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
好 那如果我們把美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
12569.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
12571.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
放進去 美國絕對不是紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
12571.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
12573.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
那美國及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
12574.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
12576.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
其他同盟國家的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
12576.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
12578.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
加同盟兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
12578.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
12580.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
那我們就會確定呢 這個美國及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
12580.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
12582.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
其他同盟國家就符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
12582.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
12584.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
飛鴻供應鏈的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
12584.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
12586.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
因為基本上目前有跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
12586.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
12588.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
有同盟關係的 像日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
12588.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
12590.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
像菲律賓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
12590.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
12592.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
這些呢 都跟美國還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
12592.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
12594.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
那個我們的這個北約 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
12594.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
12596.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
它都是屬於啊 跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
12596.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
12598.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
有同盟關係的 那跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
12598.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
12600.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
同盟關係的目前沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
12600.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
12602.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
有所謂被認知為紅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
12602.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
12604.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
所以如果以這個條件來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
12604.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
12606.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
如果要把行政院版的飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
12606.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
12608.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
更精準的 不用法律名詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
12608.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
12610.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
去解釋 不用在條文裡面另外解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
12610.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
12612.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
我們把它放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
12612.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
12614.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
賴斯堡版本委員的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
12614.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
12616.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
結合美國及其他同盟國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
12616.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
12618.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
這樣的話 大概就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
12618.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
12620.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
滿足了飛鴻供應鏈的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
12620.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
12622.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
那至於其他的國防部擔心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
12622.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
12624.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
還有什麼 服以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
12624.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
12626.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
技術移轉及工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
12626.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
12628.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
這個其實也是給多一個選項嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
12628.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
12630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
所以我是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
12630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
12632.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
賴委員的版本可取之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
12632.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
12634.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
它是大洞 大貓小貓都可以鑽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
12634.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
12636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
行政院目前第一條的需求是小貓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
12636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
12638.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
你可以走大洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
12638.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
12640.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
所以事實上不用去排斥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
12640.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
12642.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
賴委員多了一個情報跟監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
12642.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
12644.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
未來採購的主導權還是在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
12644.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
12646.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
那至於飛鴻供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
12646.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
12648.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
是否能改以美國及其他同盟國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
12648.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
12650.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
這樣就很明確了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
12650.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
12652.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
以上建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
12653.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
12655.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
12654.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
12656.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
看起來那個國民黨團這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
12656.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
12658.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
還有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
12661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
12663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
12665.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
12667.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
再見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
12666.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
12668.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
王安祥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
12671.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
12673.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
12672.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
12674.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
王安祥委員有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
12674.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
12676.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
12675.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
12677.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
這也是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
12680.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
12682.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
國民黨團的體驗的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
12683.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
12685.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
12685.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
12687.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
按照國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
12687.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
12689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
12690.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
12692.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
那這樣好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
12692.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
12694.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
因為看起來就是有三個堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
12694.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
12696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
國民黨團 黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
12696.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
12698.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
另外台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
12698.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
12700.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
剛剛講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
12699.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
12701.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
最後你要再發表嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
12701.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
12703.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
12702.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
12704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
台灣民眾黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
12704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
12706.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
有它的一個堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
12706.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
12708.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
再來就是委員外事保這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
12710.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
12712.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
沒有他們都有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
12712.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
12714.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
他剛沒有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
12715.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
12717.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
12717.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
12719.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
所以基本上我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
12719.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
12721.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
這三個版本看起來也是沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
12721.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
12723.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
所以第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
12724 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
12726 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
這三個版本的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
12726 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
12728 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
均保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
12728 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
12730 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
行政院版的你們要不要說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
12731.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
12733.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
不是我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
12733.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
12735.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
你要保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
12735.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
12737.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
你要保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
12737.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
12739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
就會變成是全部保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
12739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
12741.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
今天主席就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
12741.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
12743.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
想要保留出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
12743.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
12745.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
這樣如何賴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
12748.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
12750.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
不用啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
12750.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
12752.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
他們立委有沒有要支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
12752.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
12754.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
12754.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
12756.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
12756.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
12758.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
12758.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
12760.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
第一條所有版本的提案均保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
12766.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
12768.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
進行第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
12769.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
12771.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
12777.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
12779.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
12779.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
12781.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
那個就並在一起就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
12783.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
12785.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
那是老委員的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
12785.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
12787.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
那個需要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
12788.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
12790.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
那是老委員你的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
12792.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
12794.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
12794.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
12796.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
他有一個無人宅居產業升級發展的第一條完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
12796.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
12798.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
12798.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
12800.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
那個第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
12801.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
12803.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
那個是單獨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
12803.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
12805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
這兩個分開啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
12805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
12807.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
這兩個案子嘛我提兩個案子嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
12807.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
12809.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
一個案子是這個國防部一個經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
12809.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
12811.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
現在就一起審查嘛就看大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
12811.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
12813.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
老委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
12814.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
12816.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
那個程序我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
12817.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
12819.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
現在賴事榜委員又說他提了兩個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
12819.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
12821.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
那兩個案子要分開審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
12821.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
12823.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
12823.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
12825.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
他是一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
12825.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
12827.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
你現在到底是要一起還是要分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
12827.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
12829.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
你是兩個不同的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
12829.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
12831.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
所以你就回到我剛剛講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
12831.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
12833.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
因為就一起審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
12833.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
12835.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
因為與會交保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
12835.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
12837.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
你的採購的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
12837.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
12839.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
一定是國防部嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
12839.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
12841.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
你的產業發展條例的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
12841.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
12843.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
一定是經濟部嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
12843.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
12845.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
你的兩個案子怎麼放在一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
12845.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
12847.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
你現在又說兩個要分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
12847.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
12850.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
我說不要分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
12851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
12853.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
到底是要一起還是要分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
12854.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
12858.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
我現在因為與會交辦下來要一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
12858.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
12860.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
就是你們強制表決亂搞嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
12860.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
12862.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
與會交辦下來要一起審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
12862.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
12864.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
你現在就完全打官了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
12866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
12868.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
國防採購一定是在國防部主管嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
12868.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
12870.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
現在就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
12870.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
12872.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
你現在第二條例就卡關了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
12872.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
12874.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
你現在又要一起又要分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
12874.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
12876.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
那到底是要怎麼審呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
12879.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
12881.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
來 政天才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
12881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
12883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
沒有 我現在是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
12883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
12885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
因為他這個根據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
12884.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
12886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
在那個第三頁的上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
12886.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
12888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
那委員他的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
12888.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
12890.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
有一個版本的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
12890.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
12891.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
那個也是一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
12891.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
12893.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
我只是要宣告這樣子而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
12893.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
12895.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
然後接下來才進到我們的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
12895.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
12897.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
所以不要誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
12897.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
12899.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
這樣清楚嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
12899.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
12901.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
現在到第二條嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
12901.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
12903.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
對 行政院版的第二條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
12903.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
12905.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
好 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
12905.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
12907.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
行政院版的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
12908.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
12910.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
對 保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
12912.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
12914.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
第一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
12914.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
12916.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
他在唸第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
12916.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
12918.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
不要緊張 第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
12917.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
12919.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
現在開始要進行是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
12921.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
12923.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
12923.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
12925.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
12924.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
12926.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
接下來我們進行的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
12926.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
12928.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
行政院版的第二條開始討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
12928.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
12930.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
就是你們手上的第三頁下半部這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
12931.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
12933.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
12933.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
12935.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
直接可以發言了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
12935.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
12937.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
可以 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
12937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
12939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
政天才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
12938.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
12940.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
有關這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
12940.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
12942.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
12942.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
12944.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
主管機關如果我們從這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
12944.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
12946.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
無論是行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
12946.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
12948.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
或是國民黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
12948.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
12950.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
或是民眾黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
12952.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
12954.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
如果我們從法律名稱來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
12955.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
12957.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
12957.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
12959.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
無人宰計 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
12959.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
12961.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
12961.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
12963.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
所以在這樣的一個前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
12963.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
12965.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
12965.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
12967.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
那當然就要由經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
12968.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
12970.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
哈哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
12970.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
12972.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
好對不起我笑太大聲了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
12972.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
12974.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
為什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
12974.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
12976.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
好我來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
12976.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
12978.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
因為要自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
12978.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
12980.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
慘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
12980.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
12982.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
生產啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
12982.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
12984.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
要自己生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
12984.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
12986.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
國防部有辦法自己生產嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
12987.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
12989.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
國防自主就是要自己生產啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
12990.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
12992.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
所以要由經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
12993.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
12995.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
12997.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
12999.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
這個行政院本來就有一個計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
13001.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
13003.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
無人宰計的一個計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
13004.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
13006.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
這個主管機關就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
13006.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
13008.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
那我們現在就是要把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
13011.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
13013.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
行政院的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
13013.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
13015.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
無人宰計的一個計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
13015.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
13017.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
提升為法律的位階 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
13018.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
13020.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
讓他能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
13019.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
13021.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
能夠有法律的一個地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
13021.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
13023.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
然後能夠預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
13023.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
13025.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
能夠非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
13025.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
13027.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
能夠確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
13028.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
13030.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
13029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
13031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
既然是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
13031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
13033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
我們應該就是要以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
13033.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
13035.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
國民黨團的提案或是民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
13035.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
13037.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
的提案的地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
13037.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
13039.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
有關主管機關的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
13041.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
13043.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
就是要由經濟部作為一個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
13043.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
13045.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
那國防部跟經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
13045.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
13047.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
這一個怎麼樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
13047.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
13049.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
如果按照國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
13049.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
13051.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
版本的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
13051.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
13053.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
經濟部跟國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
13053.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
13055.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
也都是主辦的一個機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
13055.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
13057.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
那怎麼樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
13057.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
13059.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
執行我們後面的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
13059.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
13061.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
就可以有更好的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
13061.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
13063.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
13063.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
13065.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
13066.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
13068.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
好 還是把五元在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
13070.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
13072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
我強調一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
13072.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
13074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
也感謝民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
13074.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
13076.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
先進的支持我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
13076.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
13078.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
然後要製造我的矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
13078.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
13080.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
實在一點都沒有矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
13080.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
13082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
因為今天在經濟委員會主審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
13082.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
13084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
就是經濟委員會主管單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
13084.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
13086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
13086.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
13088.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
然後你可以有一個國防採購專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
13089.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
13091.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
我的木板一直被放進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
13091.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
13093.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
就這麼簡單的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
13093.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
13095.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
這立法技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
13095.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
13097.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
黨黨在一起幾個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
13097.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
13099.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
民進黨委員都在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
13099.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
13101.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
老鳥也不是菜鳥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
13101.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
13103.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
都很清楚知道這個立法技術都可以處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
13103.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
13105.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
就是我的兩個案子可以變為一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
13105.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
13107.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
但是精神要都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
13107.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
13109.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
老鳥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
13108.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
13110.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
我這裡面就是在經濟部主導底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
13110.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
13112.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
13112.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
13114.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
第一個專章叫國防採購專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
13114.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
13116.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
或者國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
13116.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
13118.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
採購專章都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
13118.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
13120.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
裡面就把它放進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
13120.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
13122.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
那有什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
13122.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
13124.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
所以不需要說一定要扯這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
13124.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
13126.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
一定要分開兩個等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
13126.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
13128.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
13128.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
13130.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
我們是希望這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
13130.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
13132.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
越快通過越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
13132.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
13134.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
而且不要忘了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
13133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
13138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
國民黨的這個黨版是2400億喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
13138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
13141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
如果加上再500億就2900億喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
13142.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
13146.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
比這個國務長列的2100億多太多太多喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
13146.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
13149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
這個東西是不是讓案子早一點過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
13149.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
13151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
可能比這個比什麼都重要啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
13151.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
13153.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
13154.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
13156.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
我的兩個案子沒有矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
13156.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
13158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
沒有矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
13158.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
13160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
經濟部主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
13160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
13162.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
國防部的採購放在裡面的專章就夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
13164.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
13166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
好,接下來我們請劉書斌委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
13166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
13168.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
13167.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
13169.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
本黨的版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
13169.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
13172.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
現在針對行政院的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
13172.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
13174.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
我們是在第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
13174.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
13177.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
呼應到我們本黨的整個設計規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
13177.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
13180.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
是它要是一個軍民通用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
13180.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
13182.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
還是可以進到國際供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
13182.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
13183.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
我們已經講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
13185.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
13187.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
由一個這個產業呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
13187.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
13189.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
它的確是有發展的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
13189.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
13191.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
那這個產業的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
13191.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
13194.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
必須要是有強烈的這個民用的這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
13194.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
13196.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
包括跟支撐到軍軍的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
13196.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
13198.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
那所以呢我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
13198.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
13200.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
這個產業的為主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
13200.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
13202.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
跟國防自主在一起的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
13202.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
13204.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
內容上面就有兩個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
13204.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
13206.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
在中央的主管機關的部分在經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
13206.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
13208.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
那涉及到特別拉出來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
13208.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
13212.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
經濟國防的運用事項的話就是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
13212.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
13213.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
那當然它也有地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
13213.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
13214.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
大家可以看到說我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
13214.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
13217.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
委員他們自己的選區在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
13217.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
13218.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
在地方也非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
13218.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
13221.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
所以也是產業的一個大本營喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
13221.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
13223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
所以涉及到地方的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
13223.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
13224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
就是各縣市的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
13224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
13226.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
那這邊特別再講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
13226.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
13229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
把裡面的涉及到有關飛航的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
13229.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
13230.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
安全等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
13230.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
13232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
這邊就是還是有區域上面差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
13232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
13234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
也是把它做了一個區分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
13234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
13237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
那當然這邊不是沒有利可循喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
13237.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
13242.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
就在於說因為在文化資產的條例當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
13242.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
13243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
我們看一下喔 等我一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
13245.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
13247.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
在文化資產保存法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
13247.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
13249.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
就有這樣的一個情況 |
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中央機關機關是文化部 |
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但是在設 |
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而且有地方的這個主管機關喔 |
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在直轄市各縣市等等 |
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但是如果在文化資產的領域當中 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
它是涉及到自然地景跟自然 |
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紀念物的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
那中央的話就是為農業部 |
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那如果是海域的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
13271.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
這樣的一個文化資產的保護的地方 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
它的主管機關就是海巡署 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
所以我們是很認真的就 |
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13275.1 |
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13278.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
它可能的可能相關主管機關都負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
那個責任一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
13279.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
13280.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
包括中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
13280.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
13283.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
一起來把推動這樣的無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
13283.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
13285.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
包括無人機的國防的自主來去努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
13285.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
13286.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
請大家支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
13288.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
13289.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
好 終焦邊緣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
13291.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
13293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
剛聽完劉委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
13293.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
13294.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
你不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
13294.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
13296.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
因為你們是第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
13296.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
13297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
在講主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
13297.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
13298.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
國民黨團是第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
13298.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
13299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
再反過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
13299.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
13301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
國民黨第三條再講民事定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
13301.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
13303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
你們是第二條民事定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
13303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
13304.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
待會就會審到不用緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
13304.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
13306.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
那到底是在自管委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
13306.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
13309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
我在講二條講主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
13309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
13312.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
那主管機關目前大部分的條文本都在第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
13312.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
13314.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
那第二條當中我仔細看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
13314.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
13318.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
我還是願意再度的釋出一個好的善意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
13318.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
13320.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
就是我們能夠互相退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
13320.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
13322.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
才能夠有共識版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
13322.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
13325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
那我還是再次的提到賴志堡委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
13325.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
13328.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
他雖然寫本條例自主管機關為國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
13328.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
13329.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
他第一項是這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
13329.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
13330.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
大概大部分都是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
13330.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
13332.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
但是第二項他也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
13332.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
13337.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
本條例所訂之技術移轉工業合作及產業升級四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
13337.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
13339.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
由國防部會同經濟部辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
13339.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
13341.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
這個說得倒是沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
13341.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
13343.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
如果這樣條例除了採購之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
13343.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
13345.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
因為他的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
13345.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
13346.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
在賴委員的版本的第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
13346.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
13350.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
他就有包含未來希望能夠帶動產業的這樣的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
13350.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
13353.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
所以這時候由國防部來會同經濟部這是OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
13353.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
13357.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
不過我對於後半段就認為可以商榷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
13357.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
13360.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
並得邀集國家科學及技術委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
13362.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
13366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
部會來協同推動這也還可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
13366.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
13369.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
因為共同辦理跟協助推動這是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
13369.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
13374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
但是把國家中山科學研究院及相關法人業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
13374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
13376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
這個就是多此一舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
13376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
13378.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
因為在我們的立法例當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
13378.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
13382.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
在條文當中要明定主管機關之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
13382.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
13385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
在行政院如果其他部會可以參與的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
13385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
13387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
要以部會層級來表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
13387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
13389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
所以本條例他這裡所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
13389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
13391.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
由國防部會同經濟部辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
13391.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
13393.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
辦理什麼呢?辦理技術移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
13393.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
13395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
辦理工業合作辦理產業升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
13395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
13397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
這個堪稱隱蕩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
13397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
13401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
那如果還要再加上一個國科會來協助協同推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
13401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
13404.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
在立法例上來講同是部會等級這OK |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
13404.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
13408.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
但是你把一個法人放在這個條文裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
13408.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
13411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
就顯得有點不倫不類啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
13411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
13412.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
所以我是建議陳可能建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
13412.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
13416.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
雖然我肯定賴委員的提案內容的包容比較寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
13416.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
13417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
但是我還是要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
13417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
13420.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
如果要採用賴委員版本的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
13420.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
13422.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
不曉得國防部可不可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
13422.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
13423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
還有經濟部可不可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
13423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
13425.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
如果只是把他的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
13425.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
13429.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
經濟部放進去共同辦會同經濟部辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
13429.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
13431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
以及國科會協同推動放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
13431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
13434.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
不曉得國防部跟經濟部的意見態度怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
13434.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
13436.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
請主席處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
13439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
13440.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
13439.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
13441.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
我先表達我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
13441.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
13443.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
其實對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
13443.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
13446.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
因為我覺得你做一個產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
13446.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
13449.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
因為當時在這一個國防的自主的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
13451.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
13453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
我們的部長都說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
13453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
13456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
這個就是你要百分之百的國產化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
13456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
13457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
13457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
13459.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
國內自主產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
13459.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
13461.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
所以基本上來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
13461.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
13462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
我是覺得你這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
13462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
13464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
它就是為一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
13464.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
13466.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
需求規格當然是國防部開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
13466.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
13470.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
但是整個產業的研究升級發展的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
13470.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
13471.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
基本上你怎麼去促進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
13471.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
13473.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
這個國防規格的滿足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
13473.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
13475.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
那是經濟部要去主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
13475.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
13477.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
所以在這裡頭的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
13477.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
13479.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
本黨團當然就是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
13479.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
13480.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
我們那是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
13480.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
13483.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
但是你涉及國防運用是像是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
13484.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
13488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
所以這位是跟王定宇委員的也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
13488.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
13489.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
王定宇委員的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
13489.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
13491.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
中央主管機關是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
13491.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
13493.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
涉及國防等等採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
13493.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
13495.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
或者是我們講的事用是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
13495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
13498.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
那國民黨團的提案來講就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
13498.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
13500.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
只是在家主辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
13500.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
13501.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
所以你主辦的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
13501.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
13503.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
基本上主辦機關有經濟部國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
13503.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
13505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
這些都有法令可循 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
13505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
13507.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
所以我是覺得就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
13507.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
13509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
你要國產自製化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
13509.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
13512.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
從我們的研發升級跟產業輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
13512.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
13513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
那是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
13513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
13515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
眾多政府部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
13515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
13518.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
even包含軍事規格的制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
13518.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
13519.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
那可能是國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
13519.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
13522.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
那其他部會當然就為需求進來就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
13522.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
13523.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
我覺得就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
13523.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
13526.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
比較符合我們科技產業的這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
13526.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
13528.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
發展的一個條理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
13528.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
13529.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
13531.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
13533.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
現實的一個發展的一個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
13533.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
13534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
跟這個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
13534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
13536.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
謝一鳳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
13536.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
13537.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
主席不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
13537.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
13538.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
那個我覺得那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
13538.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
13540.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
如果周家斌委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
13540.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
13543.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
那這應該是給那個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
13543.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
13546.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
就是經濟部還有國防部來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
13546.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
13547.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
就是那個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
13547.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
13549.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
沒關係我先表達我的看法完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
13549.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
13551.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
好不好我再請他們說明謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
13552.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
13553.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
好啦經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
13560.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
13562.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
跟各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
13562.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
13565.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
因為院板其實我們的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
13565.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
13569.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
是最主要是這個國防自主的這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
13569.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
13573.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
然後來做這個無人機的這個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
13573.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
13575.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
建立國內的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
13575.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
13580.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
國防的一個軍事的一個這個能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
13580.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
13584.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
那所以如果把經濟部列為主管機關的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
13584.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
13585.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
事實上在實務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
13585.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
13588.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
我們也沒辦法幫國安部來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
13589.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
13591.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
要採購什麼樣的一些機型 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
13591.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
13595.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
所以這個部分也會牽涉到就是說未來分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
13595.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
13596.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
分工的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
13596.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
13599.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
所以我們還是建立委員會這邊能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
13599.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
13601.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
這個支持行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
13601.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
13604.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
以這個主管機關為國安部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
13604.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
13606.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
這樣的一個主張謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
13609.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
13612.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
好所以這一條看起來大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
13614.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
13616.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
國安部啊國安部要說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
13617.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
13619.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
沒有啊因為他沒有舉手啊經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
13624.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
13626.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
要發言是要舉手是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
13626.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
13628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
因為我們是不是委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
13628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
13631.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
沒有啊因為經濟部有剛跟我講說他想要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
13632.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
13634.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
13633.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
13635.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
那個我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
13635.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
13638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
國防部為主管機關就行政院的版本來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
13638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
13639.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
我想簡單明瞭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
13639.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
13642.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
因為我們是提出我們的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
13642.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
13643.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
我們周帶需求的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
13643.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
13645.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
所以當然以國防部為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
13645.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
13647.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
那至於其他的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
13647.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
13650.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
有關產業發展的部分為經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
13650.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
13652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
國防部的立場就是產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
13652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
13654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
跟我們現在要進行的國防採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
13654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
13657.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
而且以特別預算的方式來編列兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
13658.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
13660.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
13660.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
13662.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
沒有絕對的衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
13662.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
13664.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
但不需要將他放在我們的特別條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
13664.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
13666.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
所以我們的特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
13666.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
13668.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
很明白的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
13668.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
13670.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
我們要採購特定的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
13670.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
13672.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
而且這些特定的項目在特別條例通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
13672.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
13675.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
我們要提出這些特別預算的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
13675.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
13681.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
那至於剛剛有委員提到那個賴斯堡委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
13681.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
13686.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
提到這些有關技術移轉工業合作跟產業升級等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
13686.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
13688.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
那特別是就技術移轉跟工業合作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
13688.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
13691.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
因為我們的部分是屬於自主生產的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
13691.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
13696.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
所以不會涉及到相關的這些工業合作或技術移轉的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
13696.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
13699.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
因為我們是百分之百要在國內自治 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
13699.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
13703.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
至於廠商會私下就這個性能提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
13703.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
13704.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
不但會疊帶創新的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
13704.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
13706.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
跟國外產生技術合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
13706.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
13708.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
這不在屬於我們這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
13708.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
13711.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
應該要特別納列的一個範圍之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
13711.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
13714.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
這個要跟各位做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
13714.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
13717.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
那麼如果當然今天不再往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
13717.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
13720.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
我想賴委員所提案的這些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
13720.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
13723.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
事實上跟我們現在要採購的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
13723.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
13726.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
並不是屬於統一類型的這個項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
13726.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
13731.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
這個是屬於我們另外會編列在相關的預算裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
13733.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
13734.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
喂喂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
13734.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
13736.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
我想就先講到這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
13736.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
13737.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
好 謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
13739.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
13740.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
終於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
13741.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
13743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
謝謝國防部的說明啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
13743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
13745.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
因為委員的版本大家各有堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
13745.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
13747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
那我今天率先都肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
13747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
13748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
其他委員的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
13748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
13749.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
雖然我已經做一些修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
13749.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
13753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
但是我還是要做其他的版本的一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
13753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
13757.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
剛剛政委有提到這個國防自主要放在經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
13757.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
13759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
這樣的紅論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
13759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
13761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
那這樣的話可能會涉及到205兵工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
13761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
13763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
是不是要交給經濟部來主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
13763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
13765.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
因為205兵工廠就是國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
13765.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
13767.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
三強槍炮彈藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
13767.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
13769.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
那這個如果是屬於國防自主的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
13769.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
13771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
那如果給經濟部的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
13771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
13773.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
這就不太 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
13772.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
13774.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
不太看起來怪怪的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
13774.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
13776.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
不過還好剛剛我們部長的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
13776.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
13778.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
已經把這個疑惑解除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
13778.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
13780.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
也就是說在我們自主產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
13780.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
13781.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
百分之百自治的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
13781.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
13783.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
當然還是由國防部來主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
13783.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
13786.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
那至於說未來目前行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
13786.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
13789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
要來採購的這個無人載具的類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
13789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
13791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
那麼是不是有包含了未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
13791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
13795.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
有可能全部在國內自主研發製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
13795.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
13797.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
這個我也是沒有把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
13797.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
13798.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
因為老實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
13798.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
13801.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
目前台灣的載具無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
13801.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
13804.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
整個系統生態系產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
13804.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
13807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
能夠全機整機外銷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
13807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
13810.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
大概要作為軍用的部分的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
13810.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
13812.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
其實是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
13812.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
13814.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
但是如果以目前我們要建構 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
13814.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
13816.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
我們自己國防戰略的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
13816.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
13818.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
很大的部分還是要借重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
13818.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
13821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
在美國的相關新創研發公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
13821.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
13824.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
還有在烏克蘭戰場實證的那些機型 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
13824.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
13826.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
可能是我們迫切需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
13826.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
13828.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
但是我這裡還是要提一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
13828.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
13832.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
在國民黨團他的主管機關是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
13832.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
13835.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
然後他還有主辦機關是經濟部跟國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
13835.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
13838.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
然後市設的採購研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
13838.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
13840.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
還要由主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
13841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
13844.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
會同國防部及有關主管機關共同辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
13844.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
13847.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
因為剛好今天因為這個立法體力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
13847.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
13850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
很罕見剛好我們法務部法制司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
13850.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
13852.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
有參事在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
13852.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
13853.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
那麼我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
13853.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
13855.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
在中央法規標準法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
13855.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
13857.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
這裡面所說的主管機關主辦機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
13857.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
13860.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
還有所謂的會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
13862.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
13864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
有關主管機關共同辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
13864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
13867.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
這些在條例上是否有辦法執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
13867.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
13869.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
不然看得我很亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
13869.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
13872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
到底主管機關主辦機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
13872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
13875.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
還有有關主管機關共同辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
13875.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
13877.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
這些名詞在我們條例上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
13877.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
13880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
是不是應該要有一個更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
13880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
13881.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
依照過去的寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
13881.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
13883.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
而不是說自己創造發明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
13883.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
13885.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
我們未來無法執行的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
13886.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
13888.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
13887.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
13888.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
更會遵守命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
13889.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
13892.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
那關於這一條的這個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
13892.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
13894.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
或主辦機關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
13894.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
13896.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
這個在中央法規標準法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
13896.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
13899.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
並沒有針對這個事項去做律定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
13899.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
13901.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
13901.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
13903.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
立法體力上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
13905.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
13907.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
我想因為這個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
13907.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
13911.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
涉及的這個事項分類類型很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
13911.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
13913.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
現在訂出一個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
13913.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
13915.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
因為它呼應的是後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
13915.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
13917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
後面有一些條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
13917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
13920.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
它分別會規範由主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
13920.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
13923.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
就是授權主管機關去做一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
13923.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
13925.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
那所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
13925.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
13927.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
在這一條的這個分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
13927.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
13930.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
必須要搭配後面幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
13930.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
13932.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
就是相關的這些機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
13933.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
13934.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
當他們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
13934.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
13936.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
在後面的對應條文上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
13936.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
13938.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
去規範的這個事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
13938.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
13940.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
各個機關是不是認為妥適 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
13940.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
13941.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
13941.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
13943.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
我是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
13943.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
13946.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
由涉及到的這幾個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
13946.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
13948.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
去盤點一下後面這些條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
13949.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
13952.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
去規範到他們職權的事項是不是妥適 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
13952.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
13954.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
這個部分我必須要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
13954.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
13956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
其他的這個主管機關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
13961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
13963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
13965.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
13966.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
你發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
13966.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
13968.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
我因為我一向都是表達說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
13968.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
13970.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
要先尊重其他的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
13970.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
13971.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
盡量的退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
13971.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
13972.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
13972.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
13974.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
我還是不得不對於民眾黨的版本呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
13974.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
13975.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
表示一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
13975.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
13978.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
實務上到底要怎麼去認定的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
13979.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
13980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
首先呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
13980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
13982.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
他在這裡第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
13982.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
13985.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
他說本條例之中央主管機關是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
13985.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
13986.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
13987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
13991.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
然後涉及國防運用事項為國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
13991.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
13993.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
還有地方主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
13993.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
13995.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
為直轄市縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
13995.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
13997.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
這個大概也是很罕見的立法例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
13997.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
13999.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
那後面的第二項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
13999.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
14001.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
那個就更特別了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
14001.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
14003.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
本條例涉及飛航安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
14003.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
14004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
空域管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
14004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
14005.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
資通安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
14005.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
14006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
頻率使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
14006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
14007.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
政府採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
14007.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
14008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
景鎮消防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
14008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
14009.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
災防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
14009.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
14010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
14010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
14011.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
海巡環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
14011.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
14013.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
關鍵基礎設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
14013.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
14015.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
地方場域及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
14015.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
14017.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
目的事業事項者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
14017.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
14020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
由中央各目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
14020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
14022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
依權則辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
14023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
14025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
關鍵就是依權則辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
14025.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
14027.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
如果是各相關的目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
14027.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
14029.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
依權則辦理根本不用寫嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
14029.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
14031.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
因為本來我們所有的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
14031.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
14033.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
他所處理的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
14033.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
14035.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
他不可能全部都在該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
14035.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
14037.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
部會的含色範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
14037.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
14039.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
難免有一些跑到內政部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
14039.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
14041.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
跑到NCC啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
14041.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
14043.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
跑到速發部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
14043.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
14045.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
跑到公共工程委員會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
14045.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
14047.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
公平委也會有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
14047.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
14048.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
農業部也會有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
14048.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
14049.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
海委會也會有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
14049.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
14051.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
那如果照這樣的體力條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
14051.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
14053.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
我們每條的一個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
14053.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
14055.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
後面都要把這些行不當當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
14055.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
14057.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
行政院的一級機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
14057.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
14059.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
二級機關通通寫上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
14061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
14063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
難道是這樣子寫法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
14063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
14065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
所以我是想今天列席的部會也很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
14065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
14067.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
可能這些機關都還沒列席咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
14067.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
14069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
我們來看一下這裡面今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
14069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
14071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
有NCC來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
14071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
14073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
這裡面講到說頻率的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
14073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
14075.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
有NCC嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
14075.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
14077.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
這裡面呢關於採購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
14077.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
14079.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
我有看到工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
14079.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
14081.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
那工程會要說明一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
14081.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
14083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
災防的部分今天內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
14083.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
14085.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
消防署有來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
14085.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
14087.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
那我們警政的部分警政署有來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
14087.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
14089.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
那農業部沒有看到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
14089.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
14091.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
海委會沒看到啊環境部沒看到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
14091.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
14093.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
所以說這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
14093.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
14095.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
如果今天要審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
14095.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
14097.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
真的要按照我們院會的交辦來審 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
14097.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
14101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
那各版本他所涉及到處到的內容的業務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
14101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
14105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
都要來讓我們了解一下未來能不能執行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
14105.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
14107.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
所以我常常剛剛一直聽到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
14107.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
14109.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
很多委員說這個很重要這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
14109.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
14111.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
要趕快趕快不能耽誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
14113.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
14115.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
這跟我們認真的把法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
14116.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
14118.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
定好是有密切的關係的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
14118.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
14120.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
你不會說你急著要品質都不顧吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
14120.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
14122.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
未來會不會致害難民都不顧吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
14122.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
14124.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
我們是立法院我們是立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
14124.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
14126.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
我們在審這些相關的法律案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
14126.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
14128.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
我們有既往的成立可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
14130.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
14132.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
這樣的寫法是否妥適 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
14132.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
14134.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
我不能說不妥適只是我覺得怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
14134.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
14138.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
那是不是相關的機關都應該在這裡說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
14138.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
14140.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
未來如果按照民主黨團的第三條通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
14140.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
14142.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
地方機關怎麼主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
14142.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
14145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
那試射的那些非常安全等等項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
14145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
14147.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
交通部民航局要不要來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
14148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
14150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
14149.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
14151.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
主席要建議主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
14151.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
14153.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
今天不是說只要有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
14153.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
14155.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
我們就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
14155.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
14158.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
應該要問清楚你們當時設計這個條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
14158.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
14161.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
你們的思考未來在運作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
14161.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
14163.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
是否能夠有效運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
14163.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
14165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
那如果不寫也可以那就不要寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
14165.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
14167.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
因為所有的作用法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
14167.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
14170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
他都會除了主管機關以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
14170.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
14172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
可能跟其他法律有進合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
14172.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
14175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
或者業務內容有相關相涉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
14175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
14177.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
那這些而且最好玩的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
14177.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
14179.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
你有沒有寫依權責處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
14179.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
14181.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
這五個字在行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
14181.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
14184.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
叫做最好用請本於權責辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
14184.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
14186.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
我們只要在地方政府服務的時候看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
14186.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
14188.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
問了半天最後一句話請本於權責辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
14188.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
14189.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
那我就白問了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
14189.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
14191.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
你叫我本於權責我就自己辦理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
14191.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
14194.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
哪需要再回到條文裡面去跟你會同共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
14195.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
14198.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
是不是請主席問一下是不是這些機關呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
14199.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
14202.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
民眾黨黨團的這些內容要相關機關來回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
14205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
14206.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
不能寫那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
14206.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
14209.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
趙薇很能問喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
14212.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
14213.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
趙薇很能問喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
14213.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
14216.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
我們不是立法局啦我們是立法院啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
14216.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
14218.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
我們不是立法局啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
14218.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
14220.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
我們是一次做主我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
14221.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
14223.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
怎麼會請他們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
14223.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
14225.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
14225.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
14231.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
我想說叫主席去問各機關我覺得我們今天在審查法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
14231.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
14236.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
尊重每一位委員所提出的意見以及行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
14236.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
14239.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
不行我們還是要做協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
14239.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
14245.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
這是我們在立法的過程當中的一個非常必要的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
14245.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
14249.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
我剛才說了我們大家都認為無人機非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
14250.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
14256.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
所以我們就今天現在是討論到第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
14256.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
14261.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
那主管機關單位行政部門以及各政黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
14261.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
14266.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
都有提出了說明了各自的意見是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
14266.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
14270.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
那要請主席來做採事謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
14271.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
14274.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
所以我剛就說行政院他們就是國防部嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
14274.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
14279.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
那國民黨團就是經濟部主管機關主辦當然是主經濟部跟國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
14279.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
14285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
那我們民眾黨團就是參考這個文化資產的這個保存法的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
14285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
14287.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
他變了兩個主管機關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
14288.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
14291.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
後面的話你如果說我們這個東西的話都有問過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
14291.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
14294.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
因為在後面的話你有交通局民航法規那些嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
14294.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
14296.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
因為是考慮到你的是非的場域等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
14296.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
14298.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
所以在後面會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
14299.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
14302.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
那如果像王定宇委員的話也是一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
14302.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
14304.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
就是中央主管機關是經濟部嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
14304.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
14305.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
國防軍是國防部嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
14305.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
14307.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
所以這次也是兩個主管機關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
14307.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
14310.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
就只有行政院是國防部而已就這樣子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
14312.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
14315.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
來那麼今天因為我看到飛航安全空運管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
14315.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
14317.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
有找交通部有找民航局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
14317.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
14321.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
我看到了頻率使用跟資通安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
14321.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
14323.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
看起來是一個觸發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
14323.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
14327.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
這個就請NCC交通部民航局訂資就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
14327.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
14329.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
那訂資NCC在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
14329.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
14331.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
要不要聽一聽看這個部分怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
14331.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
14334.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
NCC有沒有必要列進來管頻率使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
14334.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
14336.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
你說到政府採購今天有工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
14336.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
14338.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
我們的警政消防內政部有沒有人在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
14339.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
14341.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
農業農業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
14341.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
14343.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
喔我們就還沒通過請他來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
14343.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
14345.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
不是我們在立法涉及到其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
14345.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
14348.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
部會的時候你難道不請部會來保持意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
14348.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
14350.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
我們就事先徵詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
14350.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
14352.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
這邊才有議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
14352.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
14355.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
你並沒有支持民眾黨團的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
14355.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
14358.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
如果你是支持的話你就可以問他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
14358.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
14360.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
你又不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
14360.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
14362.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
你又不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
14362.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
14364.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
你不支持我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
14364.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
14366.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
14366.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
14368.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
賴氏保委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
14370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
14374.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
賴氏保委員的提案他有兩個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
14374.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
14378.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
他有先提後面等於是在修正前面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
14378.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
14380.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
基本上就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
14380.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
14382.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
14382.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
14384.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
我們就先保留好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
14384.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
14386.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
我再提第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
14386.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
14388.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
基本上就是我在修正前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
14388.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
14391.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
中委員有意見的部分以及他提到的相關的疑問的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
14391.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
14395.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
是不是請相關部會在協商前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
14395.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
14397.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
就是在黨團協商前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
14397.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
14402.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
那就是說把相關的報告或者是相關疑慮的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
14402.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
14406.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
能夠交給委員會每個委員好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
14406.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
14408.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
就是聯席委員會的每個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
14408.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
14411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
或者是交到那個就是委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
14411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
14413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
他自己提了都不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
14413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
14415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
所以要支持賴氏保 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
14415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
14418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
所以我們第二條按照全案都保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
14424.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
14426.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
我們進到第三條根據願板這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
14426.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
14428.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
下一頁就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
14434.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
14436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
到了名詞定義這邊了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
14436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
14438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
14439.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
14441.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
請進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
14453.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
14455.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
跟委員會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
14455.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
14458.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
我想行政院版本的第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
14458.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
14460.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
就是針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
14460.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
14462.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
國安部的這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
14462.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
14464.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
他們要針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
14464.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
14466.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
第四條所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
14466.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
14468.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
14468.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
14470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
採購的這些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
14470.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
14472.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
14472.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
14474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
做一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
14474.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
14476.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
律定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
14476.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
14478.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
其他委員的版本的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
14478.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
14480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
我們是我們的看法是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
14480.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
14482.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
14481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
14483.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
這個無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
14483.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
14485.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
這個類型非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
14485.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
14487.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
包括地面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
14487.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
14489.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
這個空中的還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
14489.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
14491.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
這個水下水面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
14491.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
14493.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
14493.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
14495.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
有很多的這些無人載具的用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
14495.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
14497.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
那其實這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
14497.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
14499.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
涉及到相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
14499.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
14501.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
這些法規包括民用航空法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
14501.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
14503.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
傳播法以及其他目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
14503.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
14505.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
事業主管機關的這個法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
14505.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
14507.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
所以他相關的這些零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
14507.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
14509.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
控制軟體等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
14509.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
14511.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
這些推動事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
14511.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
14513.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
我們在統籌型計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
14513.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
14515.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
也都已經有納進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
14515.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
14517.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
那相關的這些資安檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
14517.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
14519.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
或認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
14519.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
14521.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
還有這個無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
14521.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
14523.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
遙控無人機的這個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
14523.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
14525.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
這個費用的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
14525.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
14527.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
認定的部分目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
14527.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
14529.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
包括數位部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
14529.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
14531.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
這個工程會也都有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
14531.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
14533.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
一些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
14533.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
14535.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
另外就是說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
14535.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
14537.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
計轉跟工業合作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
14537.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
14539.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
在國防法也有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
14539.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
14541.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
14541.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
14543.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
所以我們是建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
14543.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
14545.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
還是採行這個行政委的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
14545.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
14547.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
然後聚焦在這個機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
14547.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
14549.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
14549.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
14551.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
還有那個國防部的這個裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
14551.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
14553.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
跟資源系統的這個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
14553.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
14555.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
14555.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
14557.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
好 邱毅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
14557.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
14559.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
14559.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
14561.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
國防部等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
14563.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
14565.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
是 主席 各位委員 我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
14565.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
14567.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
國防的採購一定要由國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
14567.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
14569.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
來主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
14569.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
14571.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
那麼然後接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
14571.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
14573.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
就是我們這一條例所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
14573.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
14575.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
這個國防自主無人採討的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
14576.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
14578.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
我們限定的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
14578.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
14580.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
就是主管機關跟所屬機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
14580.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
14582.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
構的部隊辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
14582.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
14584.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
來辦理這個行政合定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
14584.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
14586.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
採購我們第四條所訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
14586.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
14588.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
項目的相關的主要裝備系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
14588.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
14590.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
跟他的資源系統獲得產自 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
14590.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
14592.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
維修工程及訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
14592.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
14594.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
所以我想無論如果不以由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
14594.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
14596.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
經濟部來主辦或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
14596.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
14598.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
不管是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
14598.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
14600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
主管或經濟部來會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
14600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
14602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
這個國防部來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
14602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
14604.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
所以我想這個都不適宜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
14604.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
14606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
那我們的國防自主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
14606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
14608.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
無人採討的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
14608.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
14610.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
因為既然是特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
14610.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
14612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
所以採購的標的要明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
14612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
14614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
所以會在第四條裡面明定採購的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
14614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
14616.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
那至於國民黨黨團的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
14616.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
14618.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
相關的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
14618.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
14620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
特別是就無人採討的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
14620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
14622.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
他範圍拉了非常的廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
14622.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
14624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
幾乎將所有不管是無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
14624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
14626.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
14626.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
14628.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
還有地面的無人採討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
14628.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
14630.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
等等所有都包含在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
14630.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
14632.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
那這些包含這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
14632.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
14634.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
都會每一個具體的採購項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
14634.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
14636.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
事實上都要提出具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
14636.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
14638.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
預算案 不管是特別預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
14638.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
14640.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
或年度預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
14640.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
14642.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
這個都是要基於我們國防部本身的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
14642.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
14644.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
作戰需求我們的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
14644.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
14646.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
然後來提出相關的這個具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
14646.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
14648.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
14648.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
14650.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
這個採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
14650.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
14652.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
我們建案然後再提出我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
14652.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
14654.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
採購計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
14654.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
14656.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
那麼國民黨黨團他將所有的無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
14656.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
14658.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
這個載具都放進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
14658.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
14660.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
但事實上後面他並沒有明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
14660.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
14662.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
說明是哪些的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
14664.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
14666.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
14666.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
14668.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
具體的這個採購的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
14668.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
14670.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
所以我想這樣子的一個立法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
14670.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
14672.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
形式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
14672.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
14674.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
會侵犯到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
14674.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
14676.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
就基於我們國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
14677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
14679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
所了解的國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
14679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
14681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
跟我們國防部本身的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
14681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
14683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
專業所要訂出來的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
14683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
14685.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
的具體的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
14685.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
14687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
所以我還是懇請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
14687.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
14689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
大員能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
14689.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
14691.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
14691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
14693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
非常容易讓明瞭的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
14693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
14695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
14697.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
14699.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
特別是有關第二條跟第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
14701.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
14703.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
好謝謝國防部在秋運委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
14705.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
14707.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
謝謝主席我剛其實要表達的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
14707.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
14709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
這個第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
14709.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
14711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
談到國防採購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
14711.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
14713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
主席剛剛應該就是要請國防部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
14713.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
14715.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
14715.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
14717.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
發言才對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
14717.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
14719.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
怎麼會直接就請經濟部勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
14719.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
14721.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
就是我們一直在談這個邏輯錯亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
14721.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
14723.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
國防的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
14723.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
14725.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
國防的需求當然一定是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
14725.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
14727.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
最清楚最了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
14727.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
14729.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
怎麼會是經濟部出來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
14731.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
14733.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
那經濟部根本不知道你到底要採購什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
14733.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
14735.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
到底哪些是國防真正有需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
14735.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
14737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
14737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
14739.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
那接下來談到第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
14739.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
14741.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
國防部謝謝部長剛剛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
14741.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
14743.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
國防部部長的說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
14743.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
14745.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
但是其實各個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
14745.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
14747.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
談到的很多是商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
14747.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
14749.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
很多各個各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
14749.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
14751.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
不同的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
14751.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
14753.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
這個在產業發展條例裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
14753.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
14755.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
我們可以把它明定的非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
14755.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
14757.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
這個我也同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
14757.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
14759.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
但是在採購的部分上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
14759.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
14761.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
你把商規的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
14761.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
14763.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
通通都把它放進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
14763.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
14765.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
那甚至民眾黨黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
14765.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
14767.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
他只有談到無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
14768.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
14770.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
他只有天上飛的才有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
14770.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
14772.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
那水面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
14772.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
14774.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
水面的水面底下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
14774.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
14776.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
其他的自殺小艇等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
14777.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
14781.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
沒有在這個大的無人載具的範圍裡面喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
14781.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
14783.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
14784.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
14786.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
我還是不知道到底要怎麼樣去審這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
14786.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
14788.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
這個條例啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
14788.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
14790.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
好那我支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
14790.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
14792.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
第三條我是支持行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
14792.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
14794.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
版本喔這個還是要回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
14794.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
14796.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
國防部對於我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
14796.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
14798.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
國防需求戰略考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
14798.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
14800.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
的所有的採購案還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
14800.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
14802.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
應該回到國防部主管謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
14804.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
14806.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
14806.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
14810.98 |
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這個我要對國民黨團跟民眾黨團講個話啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
14810.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
14812.98 |
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他是先定義啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
14813.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
14815.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
先定義到底是什麼 |
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14815.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
14817.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
你們到底有包括哪些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
14817.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
14821.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
所以國民黨團講的是無人載具軍用商規軍民共用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
14823.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
14825.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
國產化的比例等等的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
14825.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
14827.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
民眾黨基本上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
14827.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
14829.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
也是把它定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
14829.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
14831.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
這個時候我怎麼沒有聽到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
14831.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
14833.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
民進黨委員要支持我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
14833.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
14835.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
我的版本很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
14835.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
14837.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
前面有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
14837.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
14839.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
第四條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
14839.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
14841.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
14841.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
14843.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
我定義的很清楚全部包括進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
14843.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
14845.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
你挑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
14845.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
14847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
然後這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
14847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
14849.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
這個特別條例裡面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
14849.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
14851.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
我裡面特別提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
14851.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
14853.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
前向最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
14853.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
14855.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
前向採購與美國或 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
14855.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
14857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
與其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
14857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
14859.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
所產製或授權的裝備為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
14860.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
14862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
而且每一個採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
14862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
14864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
要附加技術輸出及 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
14864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
14866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
工業合作條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
14867.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
14869.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
工業合作就是offset |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
14869.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
14871.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
14871.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
14873.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
我是認為我的完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
14873.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
14875.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
有名詞定義的基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
14875.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
14877.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
就跟國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
14877.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
14879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
民進黨團的基本上是接近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
14879.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
14881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
然後呢這裡面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
14881.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
14883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
要採購但是呢注意看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
14883.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
14885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
行政院版本跟我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
14885.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
14887.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
最大不一樣的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
14887.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
14889.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
行政院版本就是國內採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
14890.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
14892.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
國內採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
14892.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
14894.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
我的版本是什麼是upgrade |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
14894.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
14896.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
是高階的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
14896.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
14898.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
我高階才要跟國外採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
14898.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
14900.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
但是行政院版本不是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
14900.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
14902.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
他是低階的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
14902.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
14904.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
現在有喔你注意看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
14904.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
14906.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
他就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
14905.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
14907.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
14907.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
14909.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
我要跟美國買的就是高階嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
14909.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
14911.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
這裡面就是DCS了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
14911.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
14913.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
這裡面是商購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
14913.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
14915.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
或者軍購啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
14915.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
14917.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
我裡面採購他是軍購或是商購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
14917.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
14919.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
你直接把國內的廠商列為低階 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
14919.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
14921.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
我看國內的廠商會起來跟你抗議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
14921.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
14923.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
沒關係啦這個東西相對美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
14923.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
14925.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
當然我們低階嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
14925.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
14927.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
當然是啊怎麼不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
14927.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
14929.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
我已經講了我剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
14929.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
14931.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
提案說明已經講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
14931.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
14933.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
最早說明已經講了現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
14933.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
14935.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
國內的顧富廠買21萬架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
14935.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
14937.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
裡面只有2000架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
14937.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
14939.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
是高階其他都是低階啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
14939.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
14941.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
那所謂低階高階是什麼定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
14941.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
14943.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
當然有不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
14943.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
14945.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
不同的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
14944.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
14946.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
我Google在Google |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
14946.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
14948.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
我再去找全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
14948.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
14950.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
現在第一名第二名第三名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
14950.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
14952.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
無人機的要講他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
14952.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
14954.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
一個一個檔次的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
14954.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
14956.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
最高就是這個美國以色列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
14956.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
14958.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
烏克蘭啊這大家都很清楚嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
14958.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
14960.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
那裡面來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
14960.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
14962.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
他們都有實證經驗我們很多地方可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
14962.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
14964.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
那這一部分來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
14964.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
14966.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
才是我們真的需要採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
14966.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
14968.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
而 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
14967.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
14969.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
而不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
14969.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
14971.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
當然你低階啦國內廠商他們很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
14971.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
14973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
但是老實講你那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
14973.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
14975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
只是讓國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
14975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
14977.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
廠商是針對他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
14977.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
14979.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
謹上聽話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
14979.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
14981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
但是真的我們需要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
14981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
14983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
我們需要落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
14983.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
14985.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
我們的無人機產業的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
14985.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
14987.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
紮根我們歡迎國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
14987.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
14989.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
無人機的海岸的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
14989.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
14991.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
來台灣投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
14991.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
14993.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
我們現在全世界排名他排第15名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
14993.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
14995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
左右15到20名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
14995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
14997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
左右我們希望能夠排到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
14997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
14999.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
前5名我們希望創造 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
14999.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
15001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
大家都想說創造第二座的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
15001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
15003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
富國深山一定要往 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
15003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
15005.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
技術紮根技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
15005.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
15007.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
來我走這是我的提案跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
15007.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
15009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
行政院很大不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
15009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
15011.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
地方嘛這很清楚看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
15011.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
15013.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
行政院版本第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
15013.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
15015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
第三條第四條第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
15015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
15017.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
講的他要買的這幾項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
15017.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
15019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
局限制在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
15019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
15021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
這個這個濱海的監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
15021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
15023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
偵測型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
15023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
15025.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
濱海的攻擊型無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
15025.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
15027.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
小型自殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
15027.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
15029.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
15028.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
15030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
這個顧部長在前幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
15030.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
15032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
接受我的質詢的時候他還講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
15032.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
15034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
無人機大概就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
15034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
15036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
21萬架無人艇大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
15036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
15038.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
上千架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
15037.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
15039.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
上千台 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
15039.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
15041.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
就講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
15041.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
15043.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
就沒有了出這個字彙就沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
15043.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
15045.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
而且無人艇老實講現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
15045.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
15047.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
第一台都還沒出來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
15047.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
15049.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
你現在畫一個餅在那裡我們都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
15049.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
15051.02 |
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中科技無人艇還沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
15051.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
15053.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
一台也沒有啊誰有美國有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
15053.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
15055.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
所以我買的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
15055.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
15057.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
要跟這個地方買 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
15057.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
15059.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
然後技術輿轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
15059.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
15061.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
就是歡迎你們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
15061.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
15063.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
繼續支持第三條支持賴世報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
15063.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
15065.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
15065.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
15067.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
好那我們主持賴世報版本主持賴世報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
15067.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
15069.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
你要堅持喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
15069.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
15071.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
你不要叫我們支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
15071.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
15073.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
然後你自己又退說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
15073.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
15075.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
如果我們支持賴世報委員的第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
15075.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
15077.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
請賴委員你自己堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
15077.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
15079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
你要自己能夠支持你自己的版本啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
15079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
15081.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
我今天坐在這裡不是講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
15081.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
15083.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
要支持我的版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
15083.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
15085.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
從條文名稱到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
15085.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
15087.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
第三條你都沒有一條支持你自己的版本啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
15087.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
15089.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
你第三條我支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
15089.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
15091.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
我支持我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
15091.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
15093.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
其他的人不容易見啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
15093.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
15095.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
你從頭到尾都不敢支持你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
15095.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
15097.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
15097.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
15099.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
我一直講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
15099.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
15101.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
我的兩個條文我都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
15101.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
15103.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
其他人不容易見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
15103.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
15105.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
今天才有人請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
15106.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
15108.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
賴委員有兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
15108.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
15110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
沒有陳冠廷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
15110.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
15112.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
在解釋上就是後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
15112.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
15114.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
又以前面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
15114.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
15116.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
基本上就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
15116.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
15118.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
我們不是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
15118.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
15120.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
我們應該是要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
15120.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
15122.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
快速的完成這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
15122.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
15124.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
15123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
15125.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
無人載技能夠國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
15125.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
15127.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
這最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
15128.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
15130.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
現在的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
15130.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
15132.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
15132.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
15134.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
國民黨團的版本國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
15134.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
15136.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
民眾黨團的版本國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
15137.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
15139.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
國防自主就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
15140.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
15142.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
在國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
15142.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
15144.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
怎麼樣能夠讓他能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
15145.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
15147.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
產出非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
15147.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
15149.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
優質非常符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
15149.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
15151.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
現代的戰爭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
15151.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
15153.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
這些無人載技 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
15154.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
15156.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
基本上是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
15156.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
15158.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
如果我們看行政版本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
15158.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
15160.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
第一條也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
15160.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
15162.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
第三條第一計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
15163.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
15165.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
15165.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
15167.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
國防自主就是要自己做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
15167.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
15169.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
自己生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
15169.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
15171.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
我們投入相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
15171.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
15173.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
這些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
15173.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
15175.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
15174.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
15176.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
讓產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
15177.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
15179.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
不擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
15178.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
15180.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
不擔心做了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
15180.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
15182.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
然後沒人買 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
15183.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
15185.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
我們就是要讓產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
15187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
15189.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
國內的產業知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
15189.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
15191.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
有這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
15191.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
15193.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
你不要擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
15192.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
15194.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
企業界趕快往這個好好的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
15196.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
15198.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
15198.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
15200.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
在行政院的那個計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
15200.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
15202.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
無人載技的計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
15202.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
15204.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
也是為了國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
15205.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
15207.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
15212.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
15214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
所以在這樣的情形之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
15214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
15216.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
我認為國民黨團的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
15216.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
15218.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
15218.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
15220.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
做這樣非常好的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
15220.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
15222.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
希望大家能夠支持以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
15223.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
15225.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
好 請觀聽委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
15235.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
15237.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
15239.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
15241.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
15241.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
15243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
所以這不就代表說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
15243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
15245.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
你要支持我們行政院的版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
15245.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
15247.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
你代表要國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
15249.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
15251.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
15250.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
15252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
我只是很納悶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
15252.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
15254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
因為主要是政委員講的這幾個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
15254.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
15256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
針對我們的國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
15256.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
15258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
那說要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
15258.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
15260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
讓我們國內的企業知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
15260.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
15262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
我們可以長期能夠自己生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
15262.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
15264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
有預算等等的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
15264.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
15266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
那這樣子我們行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
15266.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
15268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
特別台會其實就有符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
15268.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
15270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
政委員的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
15270.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
15272.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
那這樣我們不是就慢慢有共識了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
15273.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
15275.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
好來 中文了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
15275.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
15277.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
好 那麼主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
15277.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
15279.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
因為今天這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
15279.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
15281.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
十四個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
15281.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
15283.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
那就是新創法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
15283.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
15285.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
過去會有一個大體討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
15285.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
15287.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
那因為今天主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
15287.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
15289.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
直接進入了法條名冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
15289.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
15291.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
沒有大體討論 現在問題出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
15291.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
15293.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
我本來想爭取說我們把它分類來審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
15293.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
15295.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
現在我們看到條次的對應不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
15295.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
15297.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
有的在第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
15297.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
15299.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
有的在第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
15299.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
15301.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
那如果你沒有看這個前後文的關照 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
15301.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
15303.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
大家現在在前後文後面打架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
15303.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
15305.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
後條文就不知道如何自圓其說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
15305.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
15307.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
我大概一個一個來跟大家說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
15307.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
15311.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
我當然這個條文我是支持我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
15311.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
15313.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
但是我去看比較其他委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
15313.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
15315.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
因為賴委員有兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
15315.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
15317.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
故且稱為賴委員A版 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
15317.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
15319.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
跟賴委員B版 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
15319.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
15321.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
那賴委員A版 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
15321.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
15323.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
他這裡面跟國防跟行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
15323.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
15325.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
跟本委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
15325.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
15327.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
跟我們其他 跟本席的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
15327.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
15329.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
15329.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
15331.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
15331.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
15333.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
第一 他是叫本條例所稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
15333.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
15335.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
國防戰略無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
15335.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
15337.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
他用戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
15337.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
15339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
行政院版叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
15339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
15341.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
國防自主無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
15341.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
15343.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
同樣都是採購喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
15343.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
15345.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
那接下來他指的是竹墾機關及所屬機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
15345.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
15347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
部隊辦理第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
15347.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
15349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
所以真的要了解這些條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
15349.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
15351.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
怎麼不一樣看第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
15351.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
15353.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
那第四條的內容我現在是不談 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
15353.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
15355.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
那我們來看這個條文內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
15355.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
15357.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
他講的喔 這裡面呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
15357.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
15359.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
鎖定之主要裝備系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
15359.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
15361.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
15360.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
15362.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
其資源系統自獲得產自一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
15365.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
15367.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
賴委員A版多了共同生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
15367.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
15369.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
好 那我就很好奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
15369.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
15371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
這個共同生產是怎麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
15371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
15373.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
後面的維修工程及訓練也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
15375.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
15377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
但是呢 賴委員A版多了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
15377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
15379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
集與其 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
15379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
15381.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
一併取得之技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
15381.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
15383.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
移轉與工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
15384.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
15386.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
看起來好像比較周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
15386.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
15388.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
但是在廣大的第二項看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
15388.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
15390.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
就出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
15390.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
15392.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
我就可以理解是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
15392.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
15394.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
賴委員認為戰略只有美國才叫戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
15394.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
15396.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
前項採購以美國或與 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
15396.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
15398.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
其他國家所產自或 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
15398.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
15400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
授權之裝備為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
15400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
15402.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
其每一採購案均應附加技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
15402.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
15404.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
移轉及工業合作條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
15404.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
15406.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
這個就錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
15406.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
15408.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
其實美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
15408.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
15410.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
他在研發很強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
15410.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
15412.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
整合很強 他不見得每個零組件都很強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
15414.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
15416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
有些如果他都很強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
15416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
15418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
晶片就不是我們台積電在拿第一名了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
15418.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
15420.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
其實美國他現在他有所偏 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
15421.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
15423.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
譬如說他的基礎工業能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
15423.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
15425.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
其實最近這20年來都逐漸的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
15425.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
15427.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
移轉到其他國家請人家代工生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
15427.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
15429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
所以美國在很多無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
15429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
15431.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
系統上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
15431.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
15433.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
他不是在每一個系統次系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
15434.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
15436.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
零組件都是最強的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
15436.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
15438.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
就講一個好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
15438.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
15440.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
現在無人載具當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
15440.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
15442.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
如果是以自殺型的來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
15442.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
15444.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
他的光電球 光電球你覺得美國最強嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
15444.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
15446.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
美國沒辦法大量生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
15446.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
15448.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
上萬顆的光電球 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
15450.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
15452.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
但是台灣有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
15452.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
15454.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
台灣的手機上的鏡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
15454.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
15456.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
大家都知道大立光很會生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
15456.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
15458.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
那大家分清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
15458.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
15460.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
不要把高階跟低階當作是一概而論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
15460.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
15462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
剛剛賴遠有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
15462.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
15464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
我們無人系統我們要獲制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
15464.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
15466.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
你看到我稍微往後看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
15466.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
15468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
15468.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
15470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
我們目前國防行政要的是兵海 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
15470.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
15472.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
艱爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
15471.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
15473.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
還有兵海攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
15474.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
15476.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
等同於耗材跟彈藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
15476.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
15478.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
什麼叫做小型自殺艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
15478.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
15480.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
自殺艇就是有去無回 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
15480.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
15482.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
在執行這些作戰任務的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
15482.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
15484.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
系統載具或者武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
15484.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
15486.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
基本上他就跟彈藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
15486.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
15488.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
耗材一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
15488.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
15490.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
有去無回你要求的只能達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
15490.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
15492.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
任務就好你不需要重複使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
15493.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
15495.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
幾千個小時啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
15495.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
15497.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
你不需要重複起降好多的架次啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
15497.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
15499.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
那這個時候你要求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
15499.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
15501.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
零組件的品質是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
15501.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
15503.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
可以讓他支撐完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
15503.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
15505.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
他的任務就行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
15505.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
15507.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
所以很清楚的美國的MQ9V |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
15507.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
15509.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
他是要多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
15509.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
15511.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
多次常時使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
15511.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
15513.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
他的鏡頭很精密 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
15513.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
15515.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
他的定位系統很準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
15515.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
15517.74 |
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但是他不可能用在所謂的FPEV |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
15517.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
15519.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
自殺型無人攻擊機上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
15519.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
15521.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
那這個時候有誰能夠生產這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
15521.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
15523.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
大量的裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
15523.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
15525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
最會大量生產的是中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
15525.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
15527.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
中國之外台灣是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
15527.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
15529.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
數一數二的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
15529.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
15531.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
所以當我們在講這些裝備的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
15531.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
15533.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
要跟賴委員A板交換一下意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
15533.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
15535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
這些採購啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
15535.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
15537.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
不見得美國能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
15537.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
15539.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
甚至我剛剛講的那種所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
15539.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
15541.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
所謂的FPEV使用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
15541.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
15543.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
這些光電球或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
15543.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
15545.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
偵查跟打擊合併的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
15545.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
15547.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
有去無回的這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
15547.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
15549.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
其實都是在東歐產製的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
15549.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
15551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
美國連自己本國都沒有產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
15551.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
15553.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
那他怎麼取得很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
15553.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
15555.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
他透過控股公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
15555.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
15557.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
直接把人家公司買下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
15557.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
15559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
那麼以後他的產線的生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
15559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
15561.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
就專攻美國軍用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
15561.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
15563.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
來供應他組裝使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
15563.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
15565.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
美國是這樣做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
15566.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
15568.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
那我們要如果要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
15568.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
15570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
我們有沒有能力跟美國一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
15570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
15572.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
去歐洲去東歐把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
15572.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
15574.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
光電球的工廠買下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
15574.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
15576.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
人家之所以目前能夠做得好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
15576.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
15578.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
不是我們做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
15578.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
15580.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
是因為人家已經系統規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
15580.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
15581.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
已經建立了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
15581.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
15583.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
所以他不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
15583.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
15585.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
他就可以有經濟效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
15585.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
15587.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
那無人載具這個很重要的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
15588.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
15591.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
他是要有考慮到他的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
15592.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
15594.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
我沒有做到最好的成本很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
15594.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
15596.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
那我就做比較便宜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
15597.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
15599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
品質不需要那麼高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
15599.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
15601.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
這個不是高階低階 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
15601.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
15603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
這是事才事所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
15603.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
15605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
我們要買的武器是這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
15605.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
15607.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
所以單單看第四條我們行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
15607.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
15609.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
這邊寫的兵海監偵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
15609.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
15611.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
那既然是監偵重複使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
15611.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
15613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
他其實還要有高空的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
15613.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
15615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
偵查能力要長時間的制空能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
15615.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
15617.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
但是你的兵海攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
15617.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
15619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
他就是有去無回的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
15619.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
15621.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
所以這些內容都放在第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
15621.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
15623.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
但是我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
15623.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
15625.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
過來其實民眾黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
15625.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
15627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
民眾黨版跟國民黨版的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
15627.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
15629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
這裡面其實沒有講得這麼具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
15629.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
15631.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
以國民黨版的第三條他的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
15632.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
15634.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
他就沒有那麼具體的寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
15634.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
15636.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
他要買什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
15636.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
15638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
他這裡面寫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
15638.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
15640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
就是把所有的無人載具的類型入門 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
15640.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
15642.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
都教訓你了包括懸異型、定義型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
15642.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
15644.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
垂直起降型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
15644.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
15646.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
這個大家都知道啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
15646.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
15648.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
然後呢無人機、水面、水下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
15648.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
15650.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
然後還有說增收型、後勤及作戰型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
15650.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
15652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
地面...這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
15652.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
15654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
15654.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
15656.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
只要不需要人員承載於機體本體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
15656.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
15658.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
這些都算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
15658.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
15660.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
那請問你這麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
15660.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
15662.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
你剛剛那樣的把所有無人載具可用於作戰的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
15662.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
15664.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
都都含進去了,那你有什麼漏掉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
15666.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
15668.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
倒是王定宇版本的他講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
15668.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
15670.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
他這裡面呢是比較簡略的提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
15670.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
15674.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
他包括飛行、水面、水下、地面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
15674.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
15676.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
然後呢主管機關公告指定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
15676.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
15678.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
那其他的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
15678.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
15680.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
包括什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
15680.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
15684.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
不包括太空發展法所定之發射載具與太空載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
15685.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
15687.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
這就很清楚這個版本他清楚知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
15687.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
15691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
他講的無人載具不能把太空發展所說的火箭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
15692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
15694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
我們講火箭有幾種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
15694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
15696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
陸軍打的火箭是要打一次有恤無悔的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
15696.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
15698.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
但是馬斯特的火箭是去了會回來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
15698.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
15700.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
這當然是不一樣的等同而論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
15700.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
15702.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
所以人家的版本講的很清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
15704.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
15706.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
行政院的版本講的很清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
15706.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
15708.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
我的版本講的很清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
15708.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
15710.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
賴世保委員的A版他在把它放在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
15710.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
15712.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
他放在他的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
15712.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
15714.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
第四條裡面呢我仔細看了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
15714.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
15716.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
原來他叫的戰略是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
15716.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
15718.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
高空長程長航時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
15718.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
15720.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
精準打擊電子作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
15720.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
15722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
這叫MQ9B |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
15722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
15724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
廣域海域或持續空域的監控跟反潛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
15724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
15726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
喔那這個更厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
15726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
15728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
這個空中預警要反潛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
15728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
15730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
有人或無人協同作戰或任務自主行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
15730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
15732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
這到底是哪一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
15732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
15734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
自他頂宗不算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
15734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
15736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
其他具戰略價值之先進無人宰菌能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
15736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
15738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
難怪賴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
15738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
15740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
一直認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
15739.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
15741.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
無人宰菌的使用有高階跟低階 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
15741.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
15743.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
因為他這裡面解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
15743.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
15745.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
就是他認為是高階的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
15745.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
15747.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
但是很清楚今天我們知道國防部他需要的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
15747.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
15749.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
他需要的是FPV啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
15749.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
15751.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
他需要的是當對岸的萬挺齊發的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
15751.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
15753.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
我們要有能力把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
15753.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
15755.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
摧毀把它監控摧毀啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
15755.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
15757.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
就因為主席沒有提供一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
15757.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
15759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
我們的大提討論的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
15759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
15761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
所以我們這些版本完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
15761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
15763.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
條是沒辦法對應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
15763.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
15765.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
所指的沒有辦法對應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
15765.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
15767.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
至於民眾黨版的部分呢他這裡寫的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
15767.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
15769.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
他這裡寫本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
15769.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
15771.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
我現在講的都是我們本條的內容喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
15771.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
15773.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
現在民眾黨版第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
15773.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
15775.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
跟第三條並在一起審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
15775.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
15777.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
他就要定義什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
15777.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
15779.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
本條例所生的無人機是指無人飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
15779.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
15781.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
無人直升機 無人多宣飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
15781.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
15785.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
其他的勒 其他經交通部民用航空局公告者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
15785.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
15787.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
15787.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
15789.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
我們國防要用的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
15789.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
15791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
還要先請民航局去公告才算數啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
15791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
15793.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
那國防部是不是要買什麼先進武器的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
15793.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
15795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
要先請民航局你公告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
15795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
15797.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
不然的話我還不能買 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
15797.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
15799.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
所以我們可以看得出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
15799.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
15801.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
這些內容充分顯現出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
15801.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
15803.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
各個版本有其不同的立法宗旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
15803.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
15805.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
所以呢他沒有辦法這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
15805.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
15807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
橫向的條字的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
15807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
15809.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
這是擺明的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
15809.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
15811.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
本席苦口薄心跟主席建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
15812.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
15814.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
既然連大題討論都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
15814.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
15816.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
就馬上進入了名稱跟條字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
15816.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
15818.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
條字在整合的時候有的條字是剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
15818.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
15820.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
不同的版本他的前後不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
15820.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
15822.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
但是根本的目的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
15822.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
15824.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
有的條字呢賴委員A版的跟行政院版的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
15824.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
15826.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
差一些些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
15826.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
15828.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
差很多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
15828.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
15830.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
你確定你第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
15830.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
15832.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
前項所提的採購以美國或其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
15832.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
15834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
為主一定要計數合作嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
15834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
15836.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
搞不好在這些內容上有的是美國要計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
15836.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
15838.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
移轉台灣的耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
15838.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
15840.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
不是台灣要移轉計數美國的耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
15840.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
15842.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
這一定把自己的本土產業矮化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
15842.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
15844.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
說我們買的東西一定要跟美國計數移轉才可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
15845.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
15847.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
那如果我們比較強還要分享給他嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
15848.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
15850.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
所以我是覺得今天我們在審這個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
15850.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
15852.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
大家口口聲聲說很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
15852.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
15854.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
口口聲聲說時間重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
15854.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
15856.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
但是到底我們對這些條例不同版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
15856.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
15858.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
各個內容有沒有去做個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
15858.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
15860.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
有沒有做個分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
15860.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
15862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
那委員主席要我們討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
15862.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
15864.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
我們要怎麼討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
15864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
15866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
所以單單是第三條現在卡關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
15866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
15868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
第三條第四條接下來各個版本分歧越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
15868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
15870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
從前面調制的名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
15870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
15872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
目的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
15872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
15874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
到後來的定義名詞定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
15874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
15876.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
到後來採購的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
15876.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
15878.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
後來就會開花了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
15878.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
15880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
我們後面不知道怎麼審 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
15880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
15882.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
所以我只不但告訴提醒主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
15882.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
15884.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
你要不要把它分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
15884.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
15886.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
不然的話我們不曉得今天我們要以哪一個類為優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
15886.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
15888.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
如果今天各位委員說我們國防採購為優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
15888.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
15890.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
那好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
15890.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
15892.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
那我們就把包括賴委員A版 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
15892.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
15894.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
特別預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
15894.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
15896.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
甚至包括國民黨當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
15896.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
15898.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
他用年度預算的他就能含採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
15898.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
15900.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
我們把他拉進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
15900.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
15902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
看看他們要的這些採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
15902.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
15904.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
是不是目前我們國防自主防衛所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
15904.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
15906.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
還是賴委員A版說要戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
15906.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
15908.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
戰略無...國防戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
15909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
15911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
你要用國防戰略、用國防自主我都可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
15911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
15913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
但是不要用高階跟低階 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
15913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
15915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
來忽略了我們本土產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
15915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
15917.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
在這些無人載具產業當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
15917.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
15919.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
某些品項我們是超越的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
15919.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
15921.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
我們是先進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
15921.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
15923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
我們先進不做技術高低 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
15923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
15925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
是因為我們的CP值高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
15924.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
15926.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
我們的CP值高所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
15926.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
15928.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
人家要跟我們採購因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
15928.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
15930.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
小哥大嘛這誰說的這黃仁勳說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
15931.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
15933.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
台灣小哥大嘛難道就是低階嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
15933.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
15935.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
不是是我們的東西物美價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
15935.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
15937.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
物美價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
15937.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
15939.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
而不是什麼物廉價美 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
15939.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
15941.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
這點我是建議主席再思考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
15941.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
15943.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
不然的話我們從第三條以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
15943.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
15945.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
會開始卡關啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
15945.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
15947.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
因為後面的條式都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
15947.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
15949.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
不知道怎麼審啦以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
15950.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
15952.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
謝謝主席就是說其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
15952.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
15954.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
各團團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
15954.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
15956.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
其實大家都是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
15956.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
15958.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
台灣能夠取得在無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
15958.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
15960.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
產業上面的關鍵的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
15960.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
15962.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
然後以及對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
15962.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
15964.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
產業發展有利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
15964.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
15966.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
這樣子的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
15966.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
15968.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
所以看來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
15968.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
15970.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
就是大家對於就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
15970.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
15972.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
第三條第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
15972.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
15974.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
都有不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
15974.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
15976.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
那我們是不是只有保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
15976.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
15978.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
因為這個東西其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
15978.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
15980.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
即便是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
15980.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
15982.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
王委員或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
15982.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
15984.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
那是不是先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
15984.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
15986.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
全部都保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
15986.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
15988.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
因為你剛才還支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
15988.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
15990.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
王委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
15990.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
15992.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
那王委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
15992.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
15994.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
他的裡面主管區關是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
15994.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
15996.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
跟國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
15996.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
15998.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
所以跟我們不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
15998.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
16000.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
所以是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
16000.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
16002.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
我們就這樣子先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
16002.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
16004.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
來 讓四包委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
16005.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
16007.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
16007.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
16009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
周瑋一直對我什麼低階高階 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
16009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
16011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
很有意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
16011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
16013.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
如果大家覺得有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
16013.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
16015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
我要強調喔 我絕對不會去小看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
16015.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
16017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
台灣的無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
16017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
16019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
特別是我們的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
16019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
16021.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
我們很強 大家都了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
16021.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
16023.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
可是就整機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
16023.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
16025.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
整個的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
16025.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
16027.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
沒什麼平衡了 我們這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
16027.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
16029.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
要離世界的標準還很遠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
16030.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
16032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
還很遠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
16032.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
16034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
這個東西你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
16034.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
16036.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
這個零組件很強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
16036.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
16038.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
沒有錯 但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
16038.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
16040.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
關鍵有一些零組件我們還是不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
16042.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
16044.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
我們早就可以賣得更多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
16044.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
16046.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
到目前為止我們一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
16046.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
16048.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
跟華戰還沒 華戰跟華戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
16048.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
16050.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
一個月可以賣到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
16050.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
16052.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
超過一萬架 現在都沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
16052.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
16054.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
採購一萬架已經了不起了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
16054.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
16056.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
那現在來講 按照國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
16056.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
16058.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
要採購二十一萬架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
16058.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
16060.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
不要忘了烏克蘭一個月就打掉二十一萬架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
16060.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
16062.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
烏克蘭一個月就打掉二十萬架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
16062.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
16064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
所以距離量產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
16064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
16066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
沒有量產 你要談什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
16066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
16068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
富國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
16068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
16070.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
很遠很遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
16070.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
16072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
所以這裡面來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
16072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
16074.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
這裡別忘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
16074.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
16076.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
請周圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
16076.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
16078.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
你喜歡看我的版本請你看清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
16078.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
16080.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
前第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
16080.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
16082.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
第三條的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
16082.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
16084.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
前項採購美國或其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
16084.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
16086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
所以你的東歐什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
16086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
16088.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
通通包括在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
16088.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
16090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
包括烏克蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
16090.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
16092.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
通通包括在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
16092.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
16094.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
那我另外一個版的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
16094.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
16096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
把它定義 我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
16096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
16098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
既然這麼又花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
16099.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
16101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
老實講這一部分老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
16101.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
16103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
我是很看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
16103.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
16105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
來講的話我是肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
16105.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
16107.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
民眾黨所提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
16107.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
16109.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
民眾黨提出來給的感覺是沒有上限的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
16109.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
16111.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
有需要的可以發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
16111.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
16113.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
我都支持他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
16113.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
16115.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
老實講這個錢更多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
16115.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
16117.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
這個來講兩千多一個不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
16117.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
16119.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
你要真的把台灣整聚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
16120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
16124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
這個整個的一個無人機的產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
16124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
16126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
包括它的整場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
16126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
16128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
我們就都很清楚了整場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
16128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
16130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
老實講這個能夠做整場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
16130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
16132.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
沒有幾家啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
16132.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
16134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
沒有幾家啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
16134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
16136.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
數的可以數的數的出來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
16136.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
16138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
這個手勢都數的數的出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
16138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
16140.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
距離說要變成富國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
16140.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
16142.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
要炸咧 所以這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
16143.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
16145.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
我覺得民眾黨提的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
16145.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
16147.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
錢多會好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
16147.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
16149.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
但是我們要審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
16149.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
16151.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
我們要看清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
16151.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
16153.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
每年度來編 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
16153.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
16155.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
每年度來審 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
16155.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
16157.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
一直下去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
16157.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
16159.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
兩千一不夠兩千四 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
16159.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
16161.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
兩千四不夠兩千五 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
16161.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
16163.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
三千都可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
16163.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
16165.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
但是呢就是要希望打造一座 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
16165.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
16167.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
台灣變成一個無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
16167.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
16169.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
產業相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
16169.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
16171.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
包括領主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
16171.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
16173.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
關鍵的領主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
16173.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
16175.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
老實講我們都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
16175.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
16177.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
我們有一些關鍵的領主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
16177.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
16179.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
我們都要來做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
16179.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
16181.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
更何況整齊的整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
16181.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
16183.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
來說的話 這樣的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
16183.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
16185.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
其實是非常少的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
16185.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
16187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
我同意現役論委員講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
16187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
16189.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
這一部分大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
16189.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
16191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
重掌記憶啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
16191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
16193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
第三條第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
16193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
16195.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
大家都一起看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
16195.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
16197.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
是不是我們就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
16197.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
16199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
第三第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
16199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
16201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
一起看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
16207.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
16209.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
不是你說沒沒沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
16209.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
16211.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
現在我們帶第三條請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
16211.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
16213.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
16213.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
16215.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
16215.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
16217.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
從頭一個鐘頭請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
16217.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
16219.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
那我講第三條可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
16219.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
16221.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
那我講第三條嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
16221.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
16223.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
先不要了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
16223.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
16225.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
先讓我講嘛 好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
16225.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
16227.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
對 個人發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
16230.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
16232.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
哇 你這個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
16232.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
16234.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
我全部都看過這樣子的結構 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
16234.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
16236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
16236.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
16238.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
因為各個黨團跟行政院等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
16238.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
16240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
甚至各委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
16240.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
16242.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
其實分下來的話就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
16243.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
16245.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
行政院版 國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
16245.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
16247.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
16247.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
16249.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
16249.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
16251.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
當然後面還有鍾嘉賓跟汪帝月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
16252.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
16254.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
那基本上來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
16254.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
16256.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
一開始的有些的目的就不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
16256.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
16258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
像我們跟國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
16258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
16260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
同樣的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
16260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
16262.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
就是放在一般的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
16262.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
16264.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
然後你的產業發展要支持國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
16266.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
16268.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
那行政院版當然你就是要特別調理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
16268.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
16270.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
Focus在這個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
16270.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
16272.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
那當然你從這個立法的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
16272.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
16274.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
你有特別調理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
16274.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
16276.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
當然就會有特別 就會有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
16276.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
16278.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
就會有採購項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
16278.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
16280.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
那是因為你從行政院的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
16280.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
16282.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
那我們如果從產業發展自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
16282.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
16284.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
去支持國防自主的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
16284.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
16286.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
我們就會從研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
16286.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
16288.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
國防部就是開需求規格 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
16288.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
16290.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
那這個東西放在年度預算的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
16290.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
16292.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
基本上本來就是按照你的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
16292.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
16294.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
分年度編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
16294.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
16296.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
所以你這整個法條寫下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
16296.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
16298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
本來也就不用去challenge別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
16298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
16300.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
你就是講你自己的理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
16300.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
16302.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
那這本來今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
16302.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
16304.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
就會今天本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
16304.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
16306.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
就會合格言而治 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
16306.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
16308.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
那基本上條目就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
16308.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
16310.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
16310.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
16312.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
因為我們又不是在做所有的東西都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
16312.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
16314.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
但是你如果到後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
16314.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
16316.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
包含像你的這些的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
16316.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
16318.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
是非的一個場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
16318.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
16320.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
或者是非農工業鏈國產化比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
16320.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
16322.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
很多等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
16322.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
16324.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
16324.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
16326.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
大概就差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
16326.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
16328.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
甚至你們的產創條例 升級投資等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
16329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
16331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
所以如果你把這些東西列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
16331.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
16333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
一定就是前面到這邊就會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
16333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
16335.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
但你後面很多東西就會相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
16338.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
16340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
所以我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
16340.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
16342.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
我們前面就在分歧的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
16342.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
16344.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
本來就是各家各個黨團各個有自己堅持的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
16344.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
16346.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
16346.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
16348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
那就是我們也聽懂也理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
16348.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
16350.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
16349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
16351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
阿你就是要有個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
16353.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
16355.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
就很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
16355.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
16357.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
其實很悲觀啦主席應該要樂觀正面能量啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
16357.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
16359.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
我很正面啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
16359.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
16361.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
如果說立法院說的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
16361.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
16363.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
只要黨團有不同的版本就沒有辦法討論出一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
16363.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
16365.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
那就不叫做立法院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
16365.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
16367.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
我們都在尋求共識當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
16368.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
16370.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
主席要加油要正向正能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
16370.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
16372.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
我來講你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
16372.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
16374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
你說這不是challenge |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
16374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
16376.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
這是提出版本當中的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
16376.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
16378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
造成我們審查上的取捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
16378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
16380.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
先談你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
16380.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
16382.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
剛剛賴斯巴委員口口聲聲說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
16382.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
16384.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
我們是要買整機的 要買先進的 要買戰略的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
16384.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
16386.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
貴黨團的版本是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
16386.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
16388.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
你看我們在看第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
16388.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
16390.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
像你們的名詞定義的第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
16390.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
16392.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
除了第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
16392.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
16394.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
是要京交通部民航局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
16394.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
16396.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
民用航空局公告之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
16396.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
16398.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
你這裡所說的無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
16398.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
16400.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
16401.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
16403.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
民眾黨團的版本是在談產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
16405.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
16407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
賴斯巴委員A板是要買採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
16407.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
16409.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
他採購採購先進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
16410.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
16412.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
但是要戰略的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
16412.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
16414.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
但是你們談的無人機產業包括什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
16414.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
16416.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
全機系統整合一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
16416.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
16418.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
飛行載具模組 飛行模組一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
16419.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
16421.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
動力模組一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
16420.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
16422.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
籌載模組一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
16422.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
16424.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
看要放炸彈還是要放偵測 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
16424.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
16426.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
通訊模組一個 地面導控一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
16426.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
16428.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
飛控模組一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
16428.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
16430.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
還好有相對應的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
16430.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
16432.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
這些是模組啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
16432.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
16434.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
這些台灣有沒有人能生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
16434.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
16436.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
有 有的台灣還能生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
16436.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
16438.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
不是整機啊 糟糕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
16438.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
16440.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
現在賴斯巴委員A板跟你的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
16440.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
16442.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
他講的是整機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
16442.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
16444.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
你講的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
16444.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
16446.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
產業當中的全系統跟次系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
16446.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
16448.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
那這怎麼整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
16447.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
16449.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
明明就是不一樣的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
16449.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
16451.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
一個談的產業發展 要談到次系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
16451.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
16453.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
那我們再來看一下國民黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
16454.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
16456.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
國民黨版本在第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
16456.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
16458.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
第三條第一項的第二款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
16458.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
16460.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
他這裡面還特別告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
16460.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
16462.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
16462.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
16464.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
是以商用規格為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
16464.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
16466.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
依軍事需求進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
16466.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
16468.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
適應性改良 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
16468.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
16470.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
並符合一定抗干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
16470.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
16472.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
抗電池脈衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
16472.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
16474.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
及戰場存活率標準植物輪載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
16476.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
16478.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
天啊 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
16478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
16480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
講的都對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
16479.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
16481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
但是這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
16481.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
16483.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
有指出任何東西嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
16483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
16485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
現在在軍用的載具上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
16485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
16487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
這些內容都是基本款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
16487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
16489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
要抗干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
16489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
16491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
要跳屏 要抗電池脈衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
16491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
16493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
不然就被人家暖殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
16493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
16495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
要有戰場存活率標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
16495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
16497.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
而且戰場存活率標準又不一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
16497.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
16499.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
自殺型的要什麼存活率標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
16498.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
16500.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
自殺型的要彈藥對方同歸於盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
16500.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
16502.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
還有什麼存活率標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
16502.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
16504.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
但是地面載具要去把商兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
16504.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
16506.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
從戰場拖回來的地面無人車 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
16506.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
16508.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
那是要有存活率標準啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
16508.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
16510.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
為什麼 你派一輛車去把商兵接回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
16510.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
16512.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
這要有存活率標準啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
16512.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
16514.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
這些條例看起來言之有理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
16514.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
16516.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
但是看不出他的立法的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
16518.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
16520.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
然後呢 我們再來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
16520.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
16522.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
剛剛 因為剛剛有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
16522.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
16524.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
第三條 第四條 賴委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
16524.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
16526.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
何必來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
16526.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
16528.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
我們來看一看 他的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
16529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
16531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
他的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
16531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
16537.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
他說前項各款所需之指揮管制與勤奸增整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
16537.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
16539.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
系統衛星系統鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
16539.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
16541.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
資料鏈 地面管制站 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
16541.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
16543.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
及感測籌載 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
16543.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
16545.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
得一併納入採購範疇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
16546.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
16548.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
夭壽啊 這個就是美國最先進的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
16549.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
16551.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
這美國最先進的美國的死神就是這個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
16552.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
16554.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
那請問 現在你跟美國買死神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
16554.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
16556.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
你說 根據我的條例的第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
16556.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
16558.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
每一採購案都要附加技術移轉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
16560.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
16562.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
都要有能夠工業合作條件嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
16562.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
16564.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
連以色列都不見得做得到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
16565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
16567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
MQ那一批目前有授權給以色列或烏克蘭生產嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
16567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
16569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
愛國者非但愛三行有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
16569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
16571.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
愛三行烏克蘭現在要爭取到美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
16571.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
16573.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
讓他在烏克蘭生產愛三行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
16573.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
16575.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
但是你抓MQ那一批 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
16575.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
16577.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
死神 有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
16578.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
16580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
連美國這個都不願意釋出來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
16580.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
16582.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
他掌握這些東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
16582.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
16584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
結果你的第三條這樣寫 第四條這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
16584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
16586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
對啊 啊以後我們只要跟美國買死神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
16586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
16588.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
先跟美國說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
16588.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
16590.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
欸你那個東西齁 全部的電子系統齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
16590.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
16592.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
你要給我技術移轉喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
16592.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
16594.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
不然我就不能買啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
16594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
16596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
那有沒有寫這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
16596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
16598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
沒寫這個條文我們下次買啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
16598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
16600.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
現在買了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
16599.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
16601.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
沒有這個條文也買啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
16601.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
16603.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
那你寫這個條文目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
16604.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
16606.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
沒有這個條文我們都已經買了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
16606.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
16608.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
美國也賣了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
16608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
16610.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
那所以我看啊如果第四條第四三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
16610.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
16612.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
合併在一起看不知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
16612.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
16614.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
還以為說喔這個很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
16614.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
16616.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
要幫助我們自主發展 錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
16616.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
16618.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
這第三條第四條合在一起看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
16618.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
16620.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
以後我們不能跟美國買死神了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
16621.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
16623.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
為什麼 因為第三條第四條在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
16623.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
16625.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
美國只要不肯移轉你死神的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
16625.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
16627.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
你就不能跟他買 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
16627.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
16629.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
所以這不是我覺得不同的版本背後的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
16629.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
16631.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
我們要是把他打穿滿腸來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
16634.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
16636.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
有其他檯面下的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
16636.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
16638.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
我們不希望一個國防採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
16638.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
16640.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
16640.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
16642.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
變成是給我們的國防採購穿小鞋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
16642.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
16644.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
幫我們的本土發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
16644.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
16646.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
帶金箍咒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
16646.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
16648.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
讓他們穿緊身衣不能好好的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
16648.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
16650.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
所以還是奉勸主席你現在說第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
16650.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
16652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
好我就講第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
16652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
16654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
有人說第四條一起看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
16654.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
16656.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
那版本的差異目的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
16656.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
16658.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
我就不曉得這些要怎麼整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
16658.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
16660.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
難怪你一開始就很灰心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
16660.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
16662.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
不可能整合嘛 因為你沒有分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
16662.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
16664.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
當然沒有辦法整合嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
16664.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
16666.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
沒有整合就要合格言而治保留出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
16666.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
16668.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
這樣算完成審查嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
16668.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
16670.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
到了議員會怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
16669.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
16671.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
我們委員會的目的就是承院會之命 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
16671.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
16673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
能夠幫大院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
16673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
16675.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
幫院會做比較細緻的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
16675.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
16677.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
所以我馬上讓給謝副委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
16677.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
16679.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
所以我還是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
16679.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
16681.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
我們今天好好的審查把這些問題都指出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
16681.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
16683.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
就算是最後主席要保留出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
16683.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
16685.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
都要讓這些爭點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
16685.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
16687.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
不同的版本的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
16687.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
16689.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
讓我們的社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
16689.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
16691.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
讓所有關心無人宅具產業的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
16691.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
16693.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
跟未來我們前線的作戰的官兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
16693.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
16695.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
他們知道他們迫切需要的武器裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
16695.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
16697.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
16697.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
16699.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
到底委員們知不知道他們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
16701.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
16703.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
哈哈哈哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
16702.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
16704.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
謝副委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
16708.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
16710.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
16713.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
16715.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
16714.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
16716.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
我雖然比較晚到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
16716.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
16718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
不過我看那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
16718.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
16720.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
從第二條開始這路就走不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
16721.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
16723.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
16723.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
16725.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
從前面就不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
16725.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
16727.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
但是從國防部那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
16729.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
16731.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
其實還是可以有整合的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
16731.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
16733.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
如果說主席今天只是想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
16733.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
16735.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
念完然後就過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
16735.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
16737.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
這也是一種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
16737.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
16739.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
但是如果從第二條來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
16739.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
16741.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
這個主管機關是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
16741.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
16743.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
那大概就是院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
16743.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
16745.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
跟我們許多民進黨的這個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
16745.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
16747.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
提出來的版本都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
16747.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
16749.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
那接下來但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
16749.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
16751.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
賴思保的他的提案也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
16751.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
16753.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
他第二條他這個515變號後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
16753.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
16755.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
這個主管機關是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
16755.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
16757.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
所以我是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
16757.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
16759.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
真的是要有一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
16759.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
16761.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
不是合個言耳制的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
16761.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
16763.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
老實講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
16763.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
16765.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
行政院版的版本比如說跟我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
16765.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
16767.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
還有我們民進黨許多委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
16767.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
16769.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
就是就特別條例的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
16770.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
16772.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
來這個好好來說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
16772.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
16774.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
因為至少是特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
16774.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
16776.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
然後也是用這個國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
16776.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
16778.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
是當主管機關我覺得如果從 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
16778.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
16780.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
這個脈絡來講的話大家比較好談 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
16780.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
16782.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
那其他像你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
16782.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
16784.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
你們這個民眾黨的版本國民黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
16784.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
16786.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
版本因為主管機關就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
16786.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
16788.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
而且我看是去軍事化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
16788.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
16790.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
就是以民用的為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
16790.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
16792.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
那就是另外一個系統了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
16792.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
16794.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
那基本上就是兩套系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
16795.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
16797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
基本上你要整合當然就不能整合嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
16797.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
16799.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
那所以你如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
16799.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
16801.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
按照這種方式不能整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
16801.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
16803.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
那今天就講完講完那就是送保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
16803.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
16805.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
那當然也可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
16805.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
16807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
因為那是你是主席你要這樣做你想要這樣子處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
16807.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
16809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
也是可以啊但是如果是真的想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
16809.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
16811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
來解決這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
16811.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
16813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
那我認為啦因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
16813.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
16815.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
其實這個期錄還沒有走得很遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
16815.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
16817.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
這個我們的原版 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
16817.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
16819.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
像我的版本跟賴世保的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
16819.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
16821.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
主管機關是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
16821.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
16823.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
是用特別條例的我們就這條路呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
16823.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
16825.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
就來走一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
16825.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
16827.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
然後其他的這個其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
16827.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
16829.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
版本是經濟部的發展民用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
16829.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
16831.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
這個還要這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
16831.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
16833.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
這個這個這個其他的入境的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
16833.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
16835.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
那其他的那再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
16835.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
16837.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
再來做這一個這個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
16837.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
16839.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
我覺得這樣子才不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
16839.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
16841.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
就是說你因為你弄在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
16841.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
16843.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
你根本沒辦法去解釋沒辦法去解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
16843.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
16845.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
但是如果把它分開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
16845.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
16847.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
國防部主導的特別條例的我們好好來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
16847.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
16849.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
我覺得會有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
16849.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
16851.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
真的會有共識出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
16851.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
16853.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
然後經濟部的呢這個以經濟部為主導的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
16853.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
16855.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
版本呢好好來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
16855.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
16857.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
我覺得也會有共識出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
16857.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
16859.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
但是你如果硬要把它弄在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
16859.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
16861.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
這就是這個什麼我今天有聽到一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
16861.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
16863.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
就是藍草就是把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
16863.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
16865.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
同歸於盡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
16865.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
16867.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
16867.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
16869.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
什麼事情就沒辦法處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
16869.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
16871.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
所以我是建議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
16871.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
16873.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
是不是我們就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
16873.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
16875.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
國防部為主的特別條例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
16875.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
16877.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
好好來討論一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
16877.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
16879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
然後呢這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
16879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
16881.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
經濟部的民用為主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
16881.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
16883.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
然後來討論這樣子比較會聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
16883.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
16885.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
會有這個交疊共識產生出來 |
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16885.73 |
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16887.73 |
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謝謝 |
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16888.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
16890.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
16890.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
16892.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
因為我們之前已經就這個已經 |
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16893.04 |
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16895.04 |
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我剛剛也說明的很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
16895.04 |
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16897.04 |
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就是結構上就是長這個樣子 |
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16897.04 |
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16899.04 |
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那我也知道要怎樣 |
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16899.04 |
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16901.04 |
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結構上就是不一樣 |
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16901.04 |
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16903.04 |
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所以你不能把結構不一樣的東西把它合在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
16903.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
16905.04 |
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除非你是故意讓它談不成 |
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16905.04 |
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16907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
我沒有故意讓它談不成 |
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16907.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
16909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
這樣就是充分討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
16909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
16911.04 |
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那就是說大家一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
16911.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
16913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
有自己的堅持跟力量 |
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16913.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
16915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
我的意思是說相近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
16915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
16917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
脈絡相同的去討論 |
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16917.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
16919.04 |
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比較會有結果 |
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16919.04 |
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16921.04 |
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就是我剛才講的嘛以國防部為主的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
16921.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
16923.04 |
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是一個脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
16923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
16925.04 |
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那以這個經濟為主就是一個脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
16925.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
16927.04 |
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兩個分開來談我覺得比較會產生共識 |
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16927.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
16929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
那你如果要合在一起談 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
16929.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
16931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
就真的不會有共識啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
16931.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
16933.04 |
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好啦謝謝方偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
16933.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
16935.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
可能剛才那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
16935.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
16937.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
李委員還沒來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
16937.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
16939.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
那因為我們剛才討論到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
16939.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
16941.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
剛才賴世寶委員建議他兩個版本要合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
16941.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
16943.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
如果要支持賴委員版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
16943.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
16945.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
他兩個版本要合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
16945.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
16947.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
他就是以經濟部為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
16947.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
16949.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
然後設就是各部會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
16949.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
16951.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
專章這樣子的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
16951.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
16953.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
那所以不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
16953.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
16955.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
是不是就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
16955.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
16957.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
其他委員有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
16957.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
16959.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
這樣子的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
16959.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
16961.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
如果沒有同意我們就必須要往下走 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
16961.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
16963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
我們就是保留往下走 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
16963.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
16965.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
因為基本上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
16965.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
16967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
基本上我們在送出的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
16967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
16969.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
會做這個黨團的第一次協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
16969.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
16971.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
基本上我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
16971.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
16973.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
大家經過今天的充分討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
16973.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
16975.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
就會去compromise |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
16975.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
16977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
一些的版本出來好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
16978.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
16980.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
這兩句到第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
16983.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
16985.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
有些人還是可以compromise |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
16987.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
16989.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
16990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
16992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
請請他們機關第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
17002.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
17004.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
好 跟大會報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
17004.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
17006.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
那協商的版本就是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
17006.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
17008.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
國防部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
17008.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
17010.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
國防自主需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
17010.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
17012.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
要採購無人機的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
17012.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
17014.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
無人機跟自殺無人艇的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
17014.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
17016.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
那其他委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
17016.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
17018.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
包括像國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
17019.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
17021.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
黨團的這個提案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
17021.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
17023.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
有提到說測試場域跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
17023.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
17025.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
產業聚樂的這個相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
17025.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
17027.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
條文的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
17027.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
17029.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
這個部分我想我們已經也納入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
17029.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
17031.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
統籌型計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
17031.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
17033.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
那也有提到說對中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
17033.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
17035.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
要特別扶持的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
17035.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
17037.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
我想這個在中小企業發展條例裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
17037.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
17039.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
也都有相關的機制來做輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
17039.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
17041.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
那至於說還有提到一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
17041.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
17043.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
相關這個無人載具的軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
17043.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
17045.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
系統整合、維修、工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
17045.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
17047.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
還有訓練的這些事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
17047.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
17049.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
那這個部分是在行政版本第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
17049.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
17051.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
所訂的這個主要裝備系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
17051.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
17053.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
17053.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
17055.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
其的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
17055.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
17057.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
其支援系統的這個採購範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
17057.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
17059.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
所以我想考慮到這個行政版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
17059.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
17061.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
已經有明定優先採購的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
17061.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
17063.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
那我想可以集中資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
17063.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
17065.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
來推動重點裝備的籌獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
17065.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
17067.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
所以建議支持行政版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
17067.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
17069.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
17070.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
17072.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
安安國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
17076.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
17077.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
是主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
17077.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
17078.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
各位委員先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
17078.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
17080.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
我想第一個我想先說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
17080.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
17082.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
無人機如果單就無人機來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
17082.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
17084.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
我們一二三四五類 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
17084.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
17086.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
有各種不同類型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
17086.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
17088.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
我想我們這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
17088.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
17090.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
採購的第四條採購項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
17090.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
17092.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
在無人機的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
17092.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
17094.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
比較著重的是在一二類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
17094.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
17096.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
那在臺海黃蕙作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
17096.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
17098.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
是有很重要的這個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
17098.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
17100.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
那至於賴委員所提的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
17100.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
17102.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
我想是屬於另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
17102.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
17104.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
類型的這個無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
17104.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
17106.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
那各種的無人機本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
17106.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
17108.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
都有他的相關的在作戰面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
17108.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
17110.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
一個運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
17110.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
17112.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
那沒有什麼分成高階或低階的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
17112.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
17114.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
我想這一點先說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
17114.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
17116.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
因為每一種的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
17116.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
17118.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
在各種不同的作戰場域裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
17118.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
17120.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
都可以發揮充分的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
17120.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
17122.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
只要我們的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
17122.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
17124.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
得當的話這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
17124.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
17126.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
第二點我想任何的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
17126.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
17128.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
在訂定的時候都必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
17128.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
17130.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
要有他的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
17130.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
17132.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
也就是說你要訂這一條目的的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
17132.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
17134.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
那這個意義是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
17134.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
17136.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
那剛剛主席以及各位委員都已經講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
17136.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
17138.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
我們這個部分大概就分成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
17138.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
17140.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
國防採購跟產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
17140.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
17142.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
那我在之前的答詢也已經說過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
17142.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
17144.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
國防的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
17144.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
17146.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
是我們國防部自主來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
17146.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
17148.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
那麼產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
17148.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
17150.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
由經濟部來負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
17150.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
17152.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
17152.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
17154.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
那所以第四條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
17154.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
17156.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
我們就列舉了這個採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
17156.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
17158.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
的具體的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
17158.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
17160.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
那這樣子的一個立法如果通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
17160.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
17162.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
我們再請提出特別醫生公大員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
17162.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
17164.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
來審議這樣子才有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
17164.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
17166.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
訂這個條例的一個就國防採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
17166.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
17168.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
而言才有他的意義性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
17168.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
17170.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
那如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
17170.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
17172.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
大家認為國這個產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
17172.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
17174.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
無人機的產業發展或無人載機產發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
17174.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
17176.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
很重要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
17177.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
17179.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
國防部並沒有排除說你另外再訂一個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
17179.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
17181.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
那所以這個兩個條例是分開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
17181.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
17183.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
那現在要把這個兩個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
17183.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
17185.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
混在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
17185.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
17187.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
那已經各位委員先進都已經指教過很多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
17187.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
17189.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
那到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
17189.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
17191.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
我們的國防採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
17191.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
17193.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
這一個提出來的三類 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
17193.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
17195.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
這個濱海健身型無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
17195.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
17197.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
濱海攻擊型無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
17197.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
17199.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
這個濱海攻擊型無人機包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
17199.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
17201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
曾經是投彈式還有小型跟中型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
17201.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
17203.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
自殺的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
17203.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
17205.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
那還有第三個就是小型自殺無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
17205.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
17207.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
到底各位委員同不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
17207.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
17209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
我們進行這樣的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
17209.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
17211.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
這個要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
17211.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
17213.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
如果這個部分不講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
17213.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
17215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
國防部幾乎沒有辦法在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
17215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
17217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
做任何的應答 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
17217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
17219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
也就是說到底你們要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
17219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
17221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
專章也好你要同意先有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
17221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
17223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
特別條例也好我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
17223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
17225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
17224.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
17226.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
但是你一定要把我們的國防採購計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
17226.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
17228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
按照我們的專需先把它列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
17228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
17230.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
產業發展的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
17230.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
17232.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
你們要怎麼去定經濟部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
17232.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
17234.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
那這另外就定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
17234.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
17236.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
兩個事情麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
17238.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
17240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
麻煩就是不要混為一談 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
17240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
17242.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
那如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
17242.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
17244.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
一直在這邊我看討論到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
17244.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
17246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
為止我覺得始終 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
17246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
17248.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
沒有符合我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
17248.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
17250.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
所提的距離採購的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
17250.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
17252.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
那沒有辦法符合我們距離的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
17252.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
17254.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
採購項目就沒有辦法達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
17254.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
17256.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
我們一開始提出來的我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
17256.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
17258.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
現在透過國防自主來發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
17258.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
17260.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
我們的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
17260.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
17262.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
那特別是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
17262.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
17264.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
所現在提出的我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
17264.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
17266.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
我們的國內產業是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
17266.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
17268.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
有能力來進行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
17268.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
17270.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
那我們希望利用特別預算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
17270.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
17272.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
來一個大規 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
17272.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
17274.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
一個長單然後進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
17274.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
17276.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
迭代創新這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
17276.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
17278.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
立法的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
17278.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
17280.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
那希望各位還是希望各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
17280.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
17282.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
17283.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
17285.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
好 我們先到事發委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
17285.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
17287.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
等一下政天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
17287.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
17289.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
我發言之前是不是可以請中科院的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
17289.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
17291.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
跟我們講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
17291.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
17293.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
中科院有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
17293.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
17295.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
能力做整齊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
17295.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
17297.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
整個整合就是製造出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
17297.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
17299.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
可以來做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
17299.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
17301.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
你跟我們說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
17301.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
17303.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
可以嗎 因為這個對於化來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
17303.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
17305.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
我發現非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
17307.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
17309.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
來 請中科院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
17316.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
17318.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
在這邊很負責任的說中科院可以做整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
17321.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
17323.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
所以就是說中科院可以做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
17323.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
17325.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
那所以你現在要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
17325.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
17327.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
這個部長你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
17327.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
17329.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
你們要的錢是不是有一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
17329.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
17331.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
就是讓中科院來主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
17331.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
17333.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
跟業者來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
17333.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
17335.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
他們說民主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
17335.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
17337.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
你們做整齊是不是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
17338.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
17340.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
跟委員報告 我想中科院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
17340.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
17342.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
我們會另外有 他的有任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
17342.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
17344.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
相關文物 我們作戰需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
17344.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
17346.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
我們會用偽製的方式請中科院來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
17346.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
17348.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
我們這一次的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
17348.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
17350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
全部是公開採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
17350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
17352.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
戶數絕標開放給 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
17352.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
17354.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
所有國內有能力的廠商來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
17354.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
17356.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
那我們認為經過上行的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
17356.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
17358.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
我們國內的這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
17358.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
17360.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
廠商應該都就我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
17360.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
17362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
所需要的濱海健身型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
17362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
17364.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
濱海攻擊型無人機跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
17364.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
17366.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
小型的自殺無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
17366.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
17368.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
我們都要有這個能力來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
17368.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
17370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
這個是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
17370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
17372.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
要達到我們最後在暫時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
17372.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
17374.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
防衛任性從烏克蘭的經驗裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
17374.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
17376.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
我們需要能夠達到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
17376.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
17378.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
那這個部分如果說大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
17378.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
17380.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
一直只是在那個條文裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
17380.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
17382.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
去講說我們要去發展無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
17382.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
17384.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
我們要去如何如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
17384.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
17386.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
我們對這件事情從來沒有排斥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
17386.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
17388.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
那麼國防部就是要採購到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
17388.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
17390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
17390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
17392.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
我們要求的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
17392.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
17394.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
那在這一點如果說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
17394.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
17396.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
通過這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
17396.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
17398.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
那麼你們就通過其他的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
17398.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
17400.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
相關的產業發展的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
17401.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
17403.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
17402.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
17404.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
就沒有辦法符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
17404.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
17406.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
我們其中這一次的特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
17406.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
17408.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
的一個基本的宗旨嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
17408.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
17410.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
在這一點上面達到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
17410.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
17412.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
國防自主採購這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
17412.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
17414.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
相關符合我們現在認為在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
17414.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
17416.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
擦海防衛作戰相當重要的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
17416.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
17418.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
幾款的這個無人機跟無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
17418.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
17420.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
是非常重要還是請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
17420.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
17422.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
支持 好沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
17422.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
17424.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
我就正跟你講的來來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
17423.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
17425.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
那個院子可以請回來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
17425.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
17427.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
17426.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
17428.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
我沒有質詢的意思喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
17428.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
17430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
今天不是質詢今天是我們法案討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
17430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
17432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
但是就你提到的第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
17432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
17434.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
滴海兼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
17434.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
17436.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
兼真型無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
17436.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
17438.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
滴海攻擊型無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
17438.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
17440.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
小型自殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
17441.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
17443.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
17443.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
17445.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
這三項國力隊的產生可以做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
17446.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
17448.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
公開招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
17448.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
17450.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
無人體部分你要不要先講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
17450.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
17452.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
我所知道無人體沒有辦法有人做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
17452.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
17454.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
17454.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
17456.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
17456.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
17458.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
幾家大概幾家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
17457.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
17459.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
我想我不需要特別在這邊做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
17459.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
17461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
沒有用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
17461.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
17463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
我查了資料老方天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
17463.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
17465.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
關於這一部分能夠做的就算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
17465.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
17467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
不夠加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
17467.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
17469.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
差不多五家左右到十家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
17469.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
17471.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
17471.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
17473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
然後我們也都清楚剛才一直有委員在指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
17473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
17475.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
你隨便 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
17475.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
17477.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
Google一下都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].start |
17477.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].end |
17479.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
Google一下都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].start |
17479.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].end |
17481.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
台灣還是很多無人機的關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].start |
17481.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
17483.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].text |
零主機沒辦法做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
17483.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
17485.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].text |
比如說你抗鋼纜的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].start |
17485.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].end |
17487.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
肝腦的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].start |
17487.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].end |
17489.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].text |
抵抗它 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].start |
17489.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
17491.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
偷訊的模組這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].start |
17491.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
17493.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
高階的工業設計跟模擬的軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].start |
17493.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].end |
17495.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].start |
17495.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].end |
17497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
台灣還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].start |
17496.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].end |
17498.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].text |
Fall behind |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].start |
17498.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].end |
17500.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].text |
所以我們先來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].start |
17500.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].end |
17502.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].text |
我知道國民黨團跟民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].start |
17502.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].end |
17504.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].text |
他們要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].start |
17504.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].end |
17506.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].text |
整個來講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].start |
17507.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].end |
17509.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].text |
整個來講是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].start |
17509.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].end |
17511.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].text |
我們打造一個聚落 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].start |
17511.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].end |
17513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].text |
當然就跟部長剛剛點出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].start |
17513.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].end |
17515.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].text |
這不是你要的,你要的就是這幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
17516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].end |
17518.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].text |
NOT |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].start |
17517.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].end |
17519.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].text |
我只是跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].start |
17519.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].end |
17521.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].text |
我會替你擔心到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].start |
17521.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].end |
17523.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].text |
找不出問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].start |
17522.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].end |
17524.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].text |
世界標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
17524.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].end |
17526.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].text |
我看是國際標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].start |
17526.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
17528.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].text |
那就是另外一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].start |
17528.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
17530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].text |
如果是國內標的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].start |
17530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].end |
17532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].text |
我很擔心這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].start |
17533.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].end |
17535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].text |
我為了今天的審查會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].start |
17535.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].end |
17537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].text |
我還特別專程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].start |
17537.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].end |
17539.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].text |
跑去看了一家做物理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].start |
17540.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].end |
17542.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].text |
那一家沒有跟政府拿過一塊錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].start |
17543.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].end |
17545.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
他自己做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].start |
17545.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].end |
17547.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
整個流程我都看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].start |
17548.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].end |
17550.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
明白的民間的聲音都告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].start |
17550.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
17552.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].text |
我以為做了一點失敗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
17553.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
17555.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
就是真的能夠做整齊整合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].start |
17556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].end |
17558.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].text |
這是整齊交給你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
17559.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].end |
17561.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].text |
我去見他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
17561.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].end |
17563.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
留不及時間好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].start |
17563.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
17565.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
NOT |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].start |
17564.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].end |
17566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
台灣當然很強的半導體世界第一很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
17566.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].end |
17568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].text |
網路通訊很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
17568.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
17570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
ICP很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
17570.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
17572.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
可是就這一塊來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
17573.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
17575.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].text |
還是有一段距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].start |
17575.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
17577.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
否則的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
17577.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].end |
17579.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
我們的產量不應該說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
17579.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
17581.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].text |
這麼現在目前來講一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
17581.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
17583.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
去年營業額產值129億的公開發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].start |
17583.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].end |
17585.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].text |
比前年增加2.9倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].start |
17585.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].end |
17587.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].text |
這個都事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].start |
17587.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].end |
17589.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].text |
這是經濟部的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].start |
17589.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
17591.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].text |
也不需要我們經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
17591.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
17593.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
通過440億 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].start |
17593.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].end |
17595.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].text |
去扶持它 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].start |
17595.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].end |
17597.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].text |
如果這個那麼強 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].start |
17597.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].end |
17599.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].text |
也不需要政府的440億 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].start |
17599.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].end |
17601.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].text |
也不要這個2000多億根本不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].start |
17602.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].end |
17604.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].text |
NOT |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].start |
17604.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].end |
17606.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].text |
因為快到休息時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].start |
17606.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].end |
17608.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].text |
我先讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].start |
17608.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].end |
17610.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].text |
您需要回答嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].start |
17611.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
17613.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
你們如果不發言我就可以休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].start |
17613.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].end |
17615.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].text |
三十二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].start |
17615.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].end |
17617.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].text |
NOT |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].start |
17616.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].end |
17618.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].start |
17618.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].end |
17620.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].text |
我說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].start |
17620.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].end |
17622.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].text |
我們現在要購買的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].start |
17622.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].end |
17624.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].text |
12型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].start |
17624.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].end |
17626.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].text |
相關的這些國內能夠產生的人量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].start |
17626.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].end |
17628.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].text |
我們都已經有做過調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].start |
17628.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
17630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].text |
這是第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].start |
17630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
17632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].text |
第二點有關相關的這些無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].start |
17632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].end |
17634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].text |
本來就有迭代創新的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].start |
17634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
17636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
比如說你非控的軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].start |
17636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
17638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
你的通訊模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].start |
17638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].end |
17640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].text |
那如何進行迭代創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].start |
17640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
17642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
這是我們在採購的計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].start |
17642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
17644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].text |
所要關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
17644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].end |
17646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].text |
要求廠商進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
17646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
17648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
這樣的迭代創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
17648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].end |
17650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
無人體也是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].start |
17650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
17652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
所以我希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].start |
17652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
17654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
我們扶植國內的這個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].start |
17654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].end |
17656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
透過我們國防部作為最大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].start |
17656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
17658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
需求單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].start |
17658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
17660.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
製造一個長單的效應是我們現在努力的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].start |
17662.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
17664.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].start |
17663.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
17665.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
我現在補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
17665.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
17667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
剛才有人指教了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].start |
17667.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
17669.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].text |
說這個死神 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].start |
17669.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
17671.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
其他醫生都買不到這個技術給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].start |
17671.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
17673.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
為什麼要不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].start |
17673.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
17675.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
台美關係不是特別好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].start |
17675.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
17677.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
怎麼對這個都自己一點信心都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].start |
17677.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
17679.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
美國買不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].start |
17679.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
17681.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
說給我技術輿轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].start |
17681.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].end |
17683.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
其他國家也可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].start |
17683.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].end |
17685.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
所以我的條文裡面有其他國家啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].start |
17685.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
17687.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
為什麼我排除呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].start |
17687.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
17689.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
報告您提的這些有關MQ-9B |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].start |
17689.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
17691.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
或者是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].start |
17691.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].end |
17693.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
RQ-4的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].start |
17693.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
17695.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
應該RQ-4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].start |
17696.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
17698.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
MQ |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].start |
17698.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
17700.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].text |
不對我們改MQ-9啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].start |
17700.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].end |
17702.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].text |
還有其他的各種常識功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].start |
17702.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
17704.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].start |
17705.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
17707.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].start |
17706.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].end |
17710.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].text |
比較高高空的這些我們講的這些大型的中大型的這些無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].start |
17710.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].end |
17712.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].text |
我想這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].start |
17712.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].end |
17716.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].text |
不是在我們這一次採購的這個項目的範圍之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].start |
17716.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].end |
17720.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].text |
而比較像是賴委員所您所提出的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].start |
17720.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].end |
17722.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].text |
這些採購的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].start |
17722.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].end |
17726.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].text |
所以兩個的這個中指本來就是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].start |
17731.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].end |
17733.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].text |
好 今天才委員發言後休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].start |
17733.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].end |
17735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].text |
然後後續的我們就休息完再發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].start |
17738.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].end |
17740.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].text |
好好好好這一輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].start |
17745.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].end |
17747.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].text |
主席說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].start |
17747.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].end |
17751.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].text |
主席說要休息並不表示我們下午不能發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].start |
17751.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].end |
17753.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].text |
下午還是可以發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].start |
17754.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].end |
17756.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].text |
好 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].start |
17756.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].end |
17758.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].text |
第四條國防部的行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].start |
17760.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].end |
17762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].text |
第四條的第一計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].start |
17762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].end |
17764.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].text |
就跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].start |
17764.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].end |
17766.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].text |
這個法律名稱一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].start |
17767.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].end |
17769.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].start |
17770.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].end |
17772.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].text |
所以從 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].start |
17771.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].end |
17773.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].text |
如果我們從第一條到最後一條來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].start |
17775.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].end |
17777.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].text |
看不出國防自主了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].start |
17778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].end |
17780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].text |
如果要國防自主就一定要由經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].start |
17782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].end |
17784.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].text |
所以這個部分是這樣 基本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].start |
17785.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].end |
17787.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].text |
國防部需要怎麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].start |
17788.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].end |
17790.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].text |
國防部是需要怎麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].start |
17791.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].end |
17793.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].text |
無論再計 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].start |
17793.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].end |
17795.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].text |
好 今天就分享到這裏 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].start |
17795.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].end |
17797.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].start |
17797.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].end |
17799.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].text |
拜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].start |
17796.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].end |
17798.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].text |
國防部可以提供給經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].start |
17799.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].end |
17801.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].text |
經濟部在跟相關的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].start |
17803.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].end |
17805.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].text |
國內的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].start |
17805.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].end |
17807.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].text |
才能達到國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].start |
17807.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].end |
17809.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].text |
無論再計 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].start |
17809.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].end |
17811.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].start |
17811.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].end |
17813.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].text |
當然我們這個可以討論國防行政院的版本是直接列舉這三個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].start |
17819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].end |
17821.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].text |
那當然這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].start |
17821.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].end |
17823.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].text |
現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].start |
17823.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].end |
17825.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].start |
17826.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].end |
17828.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].text |
無論再計 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].start |
17827.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].end |
17829.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].text |
不但 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].start |
17829.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].end |
17831.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].text |
不斷的在更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].start |
17831.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].end |
17833.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].text |
不斷的在創新 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].start |
17833.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].end |
17835.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].text |
所以我們也不要小看我們的國內的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].start |
17835.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].end |
17837.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].text |
所以到底是不是要直接列舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].start |
17837.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].end |
17839.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].text |
大家可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].start |
17841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].end |
17843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].text |
是不是唯一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].start |
17843.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].end |
17845.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].text |
如果要列舉是不是要加個其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].start |
17847.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].end |
17849.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].text |
也可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
17848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
17850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
但是從整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
17850.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
17852.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
法律的整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
17852.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
17854.99 |
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國防自主 |
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17855.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
17857.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
無論再計才夠 |
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17857.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
17859.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
既然不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
17859.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
17861.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
國防採購無論再計 |
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17861.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
17863.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
既然不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
17863.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
17865.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
是國防自主無論再計 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
17865.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
17867.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
所以我們這個 |
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17867.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
17869.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
從行政院版本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
17868.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
17870.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
這幾條條文 |
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17870.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
17872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
就還難達到 |
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17872.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
17874.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
所以我是希望大家能夠 |
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17874.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
17876.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
能夠支持國民黨團的版本 |
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17876.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
17878.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
以上謝謝 |
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17882.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
17884.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
謝謝主席 |
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17884.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
17886.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
本黨的版本 |
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17886.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
17888.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
版本當中最重要的 |
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17888.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
17890.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
其實就跟國防部 |
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17890.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
17892.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
差異最大的 |
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17892.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
17894.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
呈現出來說 |
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17894.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
17896.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
黨跟國防部的差距 |
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17896.48 |
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17898.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
這在於說 |
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17898.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
17900.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
不希望說既然它是可以 |
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17900.48 |
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17902.48 |
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國防自主的 |
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17902.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
17904.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
而且還有未來的 |
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17904.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
17906.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
要變成非紅的或者說民主供應鏈的話 |
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17906.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
17908.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
絕對是要很深刻的去 |
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17908.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
17910.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
規劃它整個體系的一個發展 |
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17910.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].end |
17912.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
那因此不能再用 |
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17912.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
17914.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
這種方式的驅動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].start |
17914.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
17916.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
而是要用的是市場方面的驅動 |
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17916.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
17918.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].text |
這是最大差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].start |
17918.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
17920.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].text |
這方面沒有解決的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].start |
17920.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].end |
17922.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].text |
我們在國防部它未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].start |
17922.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].end |
17924.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
從到2030年的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].start |
17924.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
17926.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
這個前加劇之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].start |
17926.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
17928.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
可能都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
17928.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].end |
17930.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].text |
讓它自主的這樣的一個供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
17930.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].end |
17932.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
是呈現出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].start |
17932.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
17934.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
所以我們才會主張是用 |
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17934.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
17936.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
一般的年度預算來去進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
17936.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
17938.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
這樣的差異性之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].start |
17938.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
17940.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
後續的本黨裡面所呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
17940.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
17942.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
所以我們本黨的最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
17942.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
17944.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
雖然算是還是用無人機的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
17944.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
17946.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
但是沒有呈現到無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
17946.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].end |
17948.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
但是以這邊來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
17948.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
17950.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
無人機它就是要飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
17950.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
17952.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
然後要監測等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
17952.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
17954.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
它包括的從飛航測試認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
17954.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
17956.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
頻譜到出口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
17956.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
17958.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
整個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
17958.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
17960.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
跟它的制度都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
17960.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
17962.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
在這邊我們要呈現出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
17962.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
17964.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
所以如果大家不能夠正視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
17964.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
17966.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
17966.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
17968.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
或委員沒有正視這樣的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
17968.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
17970.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
我們不必信 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
17970.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
17972.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
大家就變成說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
17971.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
17973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
到時候就沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
17973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
17975.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
根本沒有辦法達到我們的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
17975.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
17977.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
更重要的是我們知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
17977.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
17979.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
在過去的這種無人機的產業當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
17979.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
17981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
我們的確有發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
17981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
17983.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
但是還有很多還沒有發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
17983.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
17985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
就是說比較在偵測 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
17985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
17987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
或是在遙測的這些能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
17987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
17989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
這些能力的部分都需要有些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
17989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
17991.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
更多的能量的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
17991.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
17993.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
更多的技術的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
17993.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
17995.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
但是我們中間也看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
17995.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
17997.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
有些的是弊案出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
17997.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
17999.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
或者說有些問題出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
17999.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
18001.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
所以我們要制度建立好對我們可常可久的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
18001.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
18003.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
18003.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
18005.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
而且這個產業是要去支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
18005.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
18007.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
是國防的這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
18007.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
18009.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
所有的整體的目標都往這邊去進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
18009.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
18011.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
因此是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
18011.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
18013.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
很嚴肅的在認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
18013.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
18015.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
去做這樣的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
18015.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
18017.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
希望大家能夠知道這樣子的一個弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
18017.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
18019.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
而不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
18019.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
18021.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
年度預算這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
18021.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
18023.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
去年或是今年115年是比較特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
18023.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
18025.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
但是大家也知道說好好審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
18025.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
18027.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
然後預算把它呈現出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
18027.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
18029.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
因為重要性已經出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
18030.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
18032.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
就把它好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
18032.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
18034.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
剛剛大家所擔憂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
18034.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
18036.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
特別預算的不行的反正國防預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
18036.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
18038.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
國防的支出這邊都是無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
18038.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
18040.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
是這麼重要的在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
18040.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
18042.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
不對稱的作用當中台灣又是更需要注重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
18042.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
18044.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
這個目標的話當然就會全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
18044.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
18046.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
18047.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
18049.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
18049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
18051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
18051.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
18053.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
18055.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
18057.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
18057.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
18059.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
那其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
18059.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
18061.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
不管是剛剛部長所講 顧部長所講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
18061.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
18063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
或是我們在國防委員會的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
18063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
18065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
其實部長都已經講得很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
18065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
18067.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
這個兼徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
18067.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
18069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
侵的無人機 攻擊侵的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
18069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
18071.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
還有自殺無人體 國內廠商是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
18071.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
18073.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
可以做 有這個能力可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
18073.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
18075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
那所以不要去懷疑國內廠商的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
18075.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
18077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
是第一個 |
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18077.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
18079.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
18079.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
18081.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
部長就直球對決了 |
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18083.69 |
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直球對決就是講說 |
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18083.69 |
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18085.69 |
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那現在國防部有這個需求的 |
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18085.69 |
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18087.69 |
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這三款嘛 剛剛講的 |
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18087.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
18089.69 |
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這個兵海增艦型 攻擊型 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
18089.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
18091.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
小型 這個自殺無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
18091.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
18093.69 |
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到底國民黨的代表 |
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18093.83 |
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18095.83 |
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民眾黨代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
18095.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
18097.26 |
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到底同不同意要買 |
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18097.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
18099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
到底同不同意要買 |
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18099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
18101.61 |
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那如果同意要買的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
18100.78 |
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好 那就OK了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
18102.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
18104.78 |
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那你們要去發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
18104.78 |
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18106.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
18106.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
18108.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
民用的 商用的 一樣去發展 |
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18108.78 |
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這沒有衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
18111.45 |
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18113.45 |
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國防部要的這三款 你們就不要了 |
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18114.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
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你們就不要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
18116.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
18118.63 |
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那要嘛 如果要的話就可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
18118.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
18120.63 |
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我說現在的問題 這是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
18120.63 |
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18122.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
最關鍵的問題嘛 國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
18122.63 |
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18124.63 |
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跟民眾黨要不要這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
18124.63 |
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18126.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
如果要的話 大家就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
18126.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
18128.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
繼續往下談了嘛 你們要商用民用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
18128.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
18130.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
那都可以 都可以繼續在發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
18130.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
18132.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
那沒有關係 你們要分五年六年十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
18132.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
18134.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
去發展都OK |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
18134.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
18136.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
扶持國內廠商都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
18136.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
18138.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
但是如果這三款你們不要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
18138.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
18140.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
那如果要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
18140.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
18142.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
如果要就可以繼續談嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
18142.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
18144.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
那國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
18144.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
18146.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
那最重要其實就是他要買這三樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
18146.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
18148.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
到底這一檔願不願意給 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
18148.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
18150.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
願不願意讓他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
18150.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
18152.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
就這麼簡單而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
18154.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
18156.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
張教編委 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
18156.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
18158.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
剛剛我們李委員說到重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
18159.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
18161.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
其實我們看到我們的條文第八頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
18163.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
18165.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
行政案板的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
18165.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
18167.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
跟國民黨的提案的第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
18167.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
18169.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
你拿來對照一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
18169.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
18171.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
你會發現 如果按照國民黨的提案的第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
18171.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
18173.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
他的一二三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
18174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
18176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
行政案板的那三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
18176.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
18178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
通通可以涵蓋在他裡面的第一款的軍用無人載具嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
18178.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
18180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
通通可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
18180.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
18182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
那為什麼不用國民黨團板呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
18182.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
18184.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
18184.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
18186.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
國民黨團板是用年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
18187.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
18189.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
年度預算在我們的武器獲制當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
18189.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
18191.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
本來國防部行政院就可以自主編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
18191.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
18193.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
所以如果要按照國民黨說用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
18193.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
18195.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
國民黨買用年度預算買 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].start |
18195.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].end |
18197.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].text |
根本不用再來這邊審特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].start |
18197.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].end |
18199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].text |
今天國防部之所以要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
18199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].end |
18201.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
送特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
18201.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].end |
18203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].text |
是因為要動用到年度預算以外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].start |
18203.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].end |
18205.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].text |
特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].start |
18205.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].end |
18207.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].text |
為什麼要動用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].start |
18207.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].end |
18209.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].text |
要有一定的長單 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
18209.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].end |
18211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
要跨越我們的預算年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].start |
18211.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].end |
18213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].text |
那這樣子呢人家才會願意來幫你生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
18213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
18215.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].text |
那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
18215.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
18217.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].text |
我們現在要肯定一下行政院板這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
18217.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
18219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].text |
的確是目前我們台海作戰最迫切需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].start |
18219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
18221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].start |
18221.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].end |
18223.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].text |
這三款都是在防衛台灣海峽的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].start |
18223.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].end |
18225.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].text |
前面第一款第二款都是兵海型 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].start |
18225.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].end |
18227.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].text |
從我們案上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].start |
18227.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].end |
18229.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].text |
或者說艦上發射出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
18229.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
18231.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
針箭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
18231.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
18233.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
攻擊型 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
18233.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
18235.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
然後對付所有渡海攻擊的船隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].start |
18235.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].end |
18237.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].text |
我們就要這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].start |
18237.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].end |
18239.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].text |
但是還不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].start |
18239.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].end |
18241.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].text |
因為目前的我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].start |
18241.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].end |
18243.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].text |
攻擊的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].start |
18243.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].end |
18245.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].text |
它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].start |
18244.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].end |
18246.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].text |
它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
18245.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].end |
18247.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].text |
炸藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].start |
18247.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].end |
18249.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].text |
當量有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].start |
18249.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].end |
18251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].text |
所以能夠承載比較大的彈頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
18251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].end |
18253.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].text |
是自殺無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].start |
18252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].end |
18254.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].text |
所以無人艇要用來對付 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].start |
18254.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].end |
18256.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
我們水面上大型的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].start |
18256.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].end |
18258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].text |
甚至還有水下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].start |
18258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].end |
18260.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
那這裡的無人艇因為它水上水下都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].start |
18260.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].end |
18262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
涵蓋在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].start |
18262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].end |
18264.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
那水下的無人載具當然要對付什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
18264.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
18266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
對付不要高價值的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].start |
18266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
18268.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
像對方的潛艇啊當然不能來威脅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
18268.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].end |
18270.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
所以我先肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
18269.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].end |
18271.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].text |
這三項是迫切需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].start |
18271.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].end |
18273.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].text |
來建置我們台海防衛武力的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].start |
18275.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
18277.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
但是它需要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].start |
18277.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].end |
18279.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
跨年度的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].start |
18279.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].end |
18281.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
來配置才不會排擠到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].start |
18281.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].end |
18283.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
我們國防部在年度預算當中所要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
18283.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].end |
18285.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].text |
獲制的其他的軍備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].start |
18285.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
18287.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
那如果按照國防部這個條款你用年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
18287.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
18289.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].text |
寫跟沒寫都一樣國防部都可以買啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].start |
18289.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].end |
18291.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
現在國防部要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
18291.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].end |
18293.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
我要買這幾項你要不要額外給我一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].start |
18293.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
18295.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
跨年度的特別預算讓我買 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].start |
18295.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
18297.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
就是這麼一句話而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].start |
18297.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
18299.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
但是我們還是呢要來看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].start |
18299.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].end |
18301.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].text |
剛剛有幾位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
18301.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
18303.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
指教的到底我們台海的防衛戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
18303.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].end |
18305.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
無人載具角色是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].start |
18305.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].end |
18307.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].text |
有人說你只要買了就好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].start |
18307.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].end |
18309.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].text |
買到高階的就可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].start |
18309.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].end |
18311.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
大錯特錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].start |
18310.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].end |
18312.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
就像說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].start |
18311.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].end |
18313.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
你會養狼狗你會繁殖狼狗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].start |
18313.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].end |
18315.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].text |
你會訓練狼狗嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].start |
18317.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].end |
18319.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].text |
訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].start |
18318.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].end |
18320.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].text |
跟資料庫是重要的無人載具很重要的一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].start |
18320.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].end |
18322.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].text |
舉例來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].start |
18322.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].end |
18324.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
你可以繁殖狼狗但是狼狗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].start |
18324.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].end |
18326.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].text |
沒辦法辨別是好人壞人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].start |
18327.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
18329.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].text |
如果不能辨識目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].start |
18329.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].end |
18331.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].text |
這個狼狗養起來你雖然能夠讓歹徒失去攻擊力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].start |
18331.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
18333.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].text |
他把好人咬傷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].start |
18333.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].end |
18335.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].text |
你還要賠他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].start |
18335.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].end |
18337.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
無人載具的攻擊他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].start |
18337.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
18339.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
只靠他裝備本身的性能而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].start |
18339.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
18341.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
這裡面還需要一個很長時間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].start |
18341.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
18343.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].text |
培養我舉例來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].start |
18343.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
18345.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
目前以無人艇來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].start |
18345.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
18347.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
目前的無人艇台灣能不能成造啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
18347.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
18349.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
剛剛賴委員說台灣有沒有能力可以知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].start |
18349.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
18351.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
我跟你保證我都去過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].start |
18351.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
18353.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
還不能製造 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
18353.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
18355.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
問題是製造後好不好用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
18355.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
18357.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
其實國防部這邊要思考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
18357.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
18359.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
基本上目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
18359.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
18361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
我們過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
18361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
18363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
達到目標去自殺型的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].start |
18363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
18365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
到達目標去之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].start |
18365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
18367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
你可以用衛星導航你可以用電磁波導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].start |
18367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
18369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
那當然後者有被偵測的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
18369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
18371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
你用衛星導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
18371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
18373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
也會被干擾的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
18373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
18375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
你用圖像導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
18375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
18377.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
這個好一點最後要能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
18377.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
18379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
這個過程當中要能夠避障 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].start |
18379.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
18381.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
要能夠鎖定目標你需要知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
18381.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
18383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
誰是目標誰不是目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].start |
18383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
18385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
總不能航不浪蕩看到水面艦艇就打吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
18385.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
18387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
打到自己的船怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
18387.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
18389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
要針對對方的艦艇打 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
18389.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
18391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
那對方的艦艇長什麼樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
18391.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
18393.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
有收集這個圖資嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].start |
18391.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
18393.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
其實不是買裝備而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].start |
18393.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].end |
18395.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
還要買整套的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].start |
18395.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].end |
18397.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
跟他背後的資源系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].start |
18397.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
18399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
這才是我們今天看到國防部行政院的版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].start |
18399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
18401.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
我們認為這個項目要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
18401.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
18403.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
但是這個項目背後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
18403.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
18405.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].text |
整套的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
18405.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
18407.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].text |
支撐這個作戰目標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
18407.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
18409.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
這些都要去獲制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
18409.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
18411.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].text |
我在講一個剛剛在談到反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].start |
18412.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
18414.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
反制無人機最大的問題是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].start |
18415.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
18417.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
你要是用被動雷達去偵測他的電磁波 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].start |
18417.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
18419.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].text |
你要知道他電磁波特徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].start |
18419.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].end |
18421.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].text |
現在無人機的導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].start |
18421.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
18423.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
控制用的都是4G |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
18423.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
18425.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
5G的一個頻道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
18425.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
18427.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
那現在我們台灣大家拿的手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
18427.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
18429.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
4G 5G的誰知道這個空中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
18429.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
18431.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
的電磁波是無人機發出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
18431.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
18433.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
所以首先反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
18433.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
18435.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
要先辨識哪些是目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
18435.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
18437.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
他要有大量的現存 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
18437.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
18439.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
在使用的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
18439.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
18441.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
他的電磁波特徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].start |
18441.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
18443.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
就像森納要知道鯨魚跟海豚 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
18443.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
18445.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
跟潛艇是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
18445.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
18447.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
你要有森納的生文資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
18447.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
18449.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
你沒有生文資料庫你怎麼知道你的目標在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
18449.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
18451.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
你要打誰呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
18451.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
18453.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
所以這些都不是一個所謂的裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
18453.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
18455.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
到底台灣能不能生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
18455.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
18457.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
裝備台灣有辦法生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
18457.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
18459.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
但是台灣生產的裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
18459.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
18461.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
有沒有辦法透過適當的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
18460.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
18462.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
跟資料庫能夠建置其他完成他的作戰目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].start |
18462.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
18464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
這才是我們在看這個國防預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
18464.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
18466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
我們甚至背後進一步要去追究的一個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
18466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
18468.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
所以反制無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
18468.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
18470.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
如果你沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
18471.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
18473.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
判斷他的電磁波特徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
18473.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
18475.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
你如何去發射干擾信號 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
18475.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
18477.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
你如何讓他強迫降落 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].start |
18477.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
18479.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
他會跳屏你怎麼知道他會跳什麼屏 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
18479.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
18481.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
現在的無人載具的干擾跟反干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
18481.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
18483.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
是個碟對碟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
18483.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
18485.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
我要怎麼去辨評 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].start |
18485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].end |
18487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
你要抓得到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
18487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
18489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
不然我跳屏跳屏你都抓不到我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
18489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
18491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].text |
你根本沒有辦法反制我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].start |
18491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
18493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
更不要說你如果最後不是用電磁波引導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
18493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
18495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
你是用其他的影像引導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].start |
18495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
18497.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
你連軟砂都做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].start |
18497.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
18499.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
所以這種情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
18499.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
18501.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
我們希望再來看看民眾黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
18501.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
18503.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
因為民眾黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
18503.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
18505.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
他是放在第二條當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].start |
18505.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
18507.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
有一個很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
18507.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
18509.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
我特別要指出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].start |
18509.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
18511.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
因為主席在這裡特別要跟主席來回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
18511.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
18513.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
因為你們這個部分說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].start |
18513.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
18515.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
最後一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].start |
18515.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
18517.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
本條例所稱可信任供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
18517.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
18519.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
指無人機系統即其關鍵的88888 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].start |
18519.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
18521.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
這些要符合主管機關公告之可信任供應鏈的分級認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].start |
18525.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
18527.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
這個是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
18527.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
18529.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
在美國就是GREEM U |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
18529.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
18531.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
SA |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
18530.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
18532.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
Blu USA |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
18532.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
18534.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].text |
Blu跟GREEM目前我所知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].start |
18534.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
18536.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
經濟部公園院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].start |
18536.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
18538.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
已經取得了Blu的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
18538.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
18540.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
GREEM認證授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].start |
18540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
18542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
未來這個Blu的均用等級 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
18542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
18544.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
我們還在爭取當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].start |
18544.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
18546.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
可能是金屬中心下去爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
18546.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
18548.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
不管是GREEM或是Blu |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
18548.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
18550.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
這些所謂可信任供應鏈的分級認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
18550.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
18552.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
我認為這的確是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
18552.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
18554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
但是問題是你這些寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
18554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
18556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
本條例所稱可信任供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
18556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
18558.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
這些東西要符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
18560.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
18562.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
關於這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].start |
18562.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
18564.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
如果我們Follow美國的GREEM或Blu |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].start |
18564.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
18566.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
那很抱歉啦這就不是我們主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].start |
18566.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
18568.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
他所能夠去左右的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
18568.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
18570.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
這個就是對方在左右的對方的規格怎麼開 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
18570.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
18572.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
你要怎麼跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
18572.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
18574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
所以其實把這些看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
18574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
18576.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
好像是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
18576.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].end |
18578.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].text |
很關鍵的這樣條文規定下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].start |
18578.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].end |
18580.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].text |
在執行上有沒有符合實況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].start |
18580.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].end |
18582.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
所以目前台灣連Blu跟GREEM |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].start |
18582.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].end |
18584.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].text |
都還要去跟美方取得授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
18584.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
18586.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
在我們國內去做一些共通規格的產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
18586.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].end |
18588.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].text |
那你在這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
18588.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
18590.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
你馬上寫進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
18590.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
18592.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
到底是在扶植本國的無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
18592.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
18594.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
還是在扼殺本國的無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
18594.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
18596.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
所以我是覺得這些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
18596.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
18598.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
都是可以來討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
18598.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].end |
18600.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].text |
其實我們是很希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].start |
18600.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].end |
18602.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
經濟部跟國防部他們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].start |
18602.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].end |
18604.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].text |
國防部需要獲制他們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].start |
18604.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].end |
18606.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
供有效使用的武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].start |
18606.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].end |
18608.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
那經濟部要想辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].start |
18608.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
18610.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
要想辦法讓國內可以繼續的產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].start |
18610.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
18612.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
不然的話以我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
18612.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
18614.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
以前台灣人要說是赤衛之島 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
18614.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
18616.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
為什麼我們是全世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
18616.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
18618.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
飛彈密度最高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
18618.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].end |
18620.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
但是從烏克蘭今天我們看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
18620.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].end |
18622.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
你只靠攔截飛彈這麼昂貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
18622.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
18624.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
容易耗損庫存 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
18624.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
18626.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
不容易補充的高價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
18626.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].end |
18628.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
或者高性能的軍備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
18628.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
18630.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
你很難支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
18630.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].end |
18632.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
對岸攻擊方用大量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
18632.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
18634.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
消耗式的持久攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
18634.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
18636.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
所以我們看到發展不對勢戰力當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
18636.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
18638.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
這些量多價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
18638.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
18640.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
而且可以自行持續生產補充的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
18640.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
18642.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
這就是我們目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
18642.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
18644.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
國防部為什麼一開始要開這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
18644.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
18646.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
特別預算去買這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
18646.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
18648.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
用這個長單來買這些內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].start |
18648.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].end |
18650.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].text |
這就是我們目的我們要能夠生產什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].start |
18650.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].end |
18652.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].text |
不是在靠飛彈愛國者飛彈來攔截對岸的攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].start |
18652.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].end |
18654.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].text |
我們要靠我們的這些無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].start |
18654.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].end |
18656.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].text |
靠人的兵海型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].start |
18656.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].end |
18658.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].text |
去消滅 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].start |
18658.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].end |
18660.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].text |
去對抗他們派來的船隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].start |
18660.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].end |
18662.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].text |
或其他的對海的跨海攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].start |
18662.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].end |
18664.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].text |
我們需要的是這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].start |
18664.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].end |
18666.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].text |
那如果國防部這個講清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].start |
18666.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].end |
18668.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].text |
大家支持了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].start |
18668.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].end |
18670.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].text |
希望大家就支持用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].start |
18670.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].end |
18672.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].text |
來支持購買這三種的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].start |
18672.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].end |
18674.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].text |
至於後面其他的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].start |
18674.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].end |
18676.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].text |
包括說他的一個可信賴供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].start |
18676.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].end |
18678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].text |
他的分級認證制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].start |
18678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].end |
18680.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].text |
目前我們的國產條例有分三級 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].start |
18680.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].end |
18682.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].text |
那我看國產的這三級可能不夠用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].start |
18682.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].end |
18684.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].text |
可能經濟部跟國防部還要努力的去發展其他的集數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].start |
18684.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].end |
18686.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].text |
不過因為民眾黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].start |
18686.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].end |
18688.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].text |
它重點在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].start |
18688.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].end |
18690.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].text |
不是在於我們軍備的獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].start |
18690.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].end |
18692.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].text |
武器的獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].start |
18692.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].end |
18694.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].text |
它重點在於產業的扶植 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].start |
18694.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].end |
18696.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].text |
所以這個的確對產業是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].start |
18696.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].end |
18698.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].text |
但是如果放在我們現在採購目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].start |
18698.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].end |
18700.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].text |
是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].start |
18699.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].end |
18701.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].text |
健全會完備我們的軍備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].start |
18701.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].end |
18703.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].text |
那這個條文寫進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].start |
18703.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].end |
18705.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].text |
不見得有幫助於國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].start |
18705.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].end |
18707.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].text |
可以迅速的獲得我們所需要的裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].start |
18707.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].end |
18709.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].text |
以上來跟我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].start |
18711.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].end |
18713.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].text |
主席來就教我們民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].start |
18713.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].end |
18715.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].text |
這樣的一個條文內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].start |
18715.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].end |
18717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].text |
有沒有思考到未來真的如果實行的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].start |
18717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].end |
18719.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].text |
會對我們產業造成什麼樣的負面影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].start |
18719.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].end |
18721.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].start |
18724.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].end |
18726.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].text |
你要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].start |
18726.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].end |
18728.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].text |
最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].start |
18728.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].end |
18730.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].text |
發言我們就休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].start |
18730.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].end |
18732.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].text |
我想這個飛鴻可信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].start |
18732.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].end |
18734.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].text |
當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].start |
18734.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].end |
18736.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].text |
我們在扶持國內產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].start |
18736.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].end |
18738.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].text |
一個非常重要的基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].start |
18738.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].end |
18740.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].text |
而且這一次是軍購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].start |
18740.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].end |
18742.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].text |
基本上很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].start |
18742.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].end |
18744.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].text |
三規居用的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].start |
18744.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].end |
18746.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].text |
所以我當然需要可信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].start |
18746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].end |
18748.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].text |
所以基本上這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].start |
18748.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].end |
18750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].text |
我想剛剛周委員說很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].start |
18750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].end |
18752.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].text |
這樣子可能會阻礙我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].start |
18752.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].end |
18754.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].text |
不是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].start |
18754.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].end |
18756.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].text |
基本上飛鴻可信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].start |
18756.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].end |
18758.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].text |
我想這一次我們檢查的時候還是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].start |
18761.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].end |
18763.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].text |
周委員你要先講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].start |
18763.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].end |
18765.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].text |
你講完再處理然後就休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].start |
18765.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].end |
18767.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].start |
18767.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].end |
18769.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].text |
國民黨版是第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].start |
18769.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].end |
18771.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].start |
18771.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].end |
18773.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].text |
剛剛所講的大家都是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].start |
18773.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].end |
18775.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].text |
無論機的產業不管是軍用民用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].start |
18775.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].end |
18777.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].text |
等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].start |
18777.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].end |
18779.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].text |
因為它試射了不只是軍用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].start |
18779.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].end |
18781.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].text |
它還試農工商都需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].start |
18781.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].end |
18783.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].text |
所以這是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].start |
18783.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].end |
18785.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].text |
重要的一個產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].start |
18785.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].end |
18787.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].text |
所以剛剛委員也同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].start |
18787.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].end |
18789.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].text |
也就是在國民黨第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].start |
18789.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].end |
18791.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].text |
第十六條裡頭的第一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].start |
18791.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].end |
18793.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].text |
軍用無人機載具之採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].start |
18793.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].end |
18795.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].text |
它的產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].start |
18795.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].end |
18797.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].text |
它的維修工程以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].start |
18797.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].end |
18799.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].text |
訓練其實剛剛說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].start |
18799.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].end |
18801.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].text |
國民黨就可以買了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].start |
18801.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].end |
18803.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].text |
所以我認為在法制的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].start |
18803.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].end |
18805.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].text |
跟規模的經濟的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].start |
18805.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].end |
18807.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].text |
我們更需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].start |
18807.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].end |
18809.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].text |
有穩定的這個法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].start |
18809.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].end |
18811.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].text |
充足的活水 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].start |
18811.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].end |
18813.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].text |
所以我們從早上九點到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].start |
18813.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].end |
18815.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].text |
現在討論到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].start |
18815.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].end |
18817.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].text |
我們唯一的目的就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].start |
18817.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].end |
18819.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].text |
所以我也希望說說大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].start |
18821.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].end |
18823.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].text |
共識點就是全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].start |
18823.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].end |
18825.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].text |
無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].start |
18825.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].end |
18827.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].text |
全力的支持國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].start |
18827.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].end |
18829.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].text |
的一個安全跟採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].start |
18829.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].end |
18831.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].text |
這是大家達成的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].start |
18831.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].end |
18833.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].text |
所以如果有大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].start |
18833.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].end |
18835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].text |
因為還有很多的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].start |
18835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].end |
18837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].text |
大家還有爭議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].start |
18837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].end |
18839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].text |
就是我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].start |
18839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].end |
18841.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].text |
就是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].start |
18841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].end |
18843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].text |
時間換取空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].start |
18843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].end |
18845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].text |
那好好的再去做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].start |
18845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].end |
18847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].text |
所以第四條討論到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].start |
18847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].end |
18849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].text |
快要兩點的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].start |
18849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].end |
18851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].text |
我的具體建議是不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].start |
18851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].end |
18853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].text |
就是保留中協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].start |
18854.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].end |
18856.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].start |
18855.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].end |
18857.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].text |
所以就是保留中協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].start |
18857.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].end |
18859.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].text |
好嗎 第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].start |
18859.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].end |
18861.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].text |
然後現在休息三十分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].start |
18861.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].end |
18863.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].start |
18866.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].end |
18868.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].text |
好懂意啊 好懂意哦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].start |
18874.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].end |
18876.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].text |
講話可以嗎 你還在問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].start |
18876.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].end |
18878.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].text |
你不頭腦的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].start |
18879.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].end |
18881.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].start |
18892.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].end |
18894.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].text |
一個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].start |
18894.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].end |
18896.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].text |
你的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].start |
18896.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].end |
18898.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].text |
不是你的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].start |
18898.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].end |
18900.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].text |
用特別預算編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].start |
18905.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].end |
18907.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].text |
下午再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].start |
18907.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].end |
18909.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].text |
下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].start |
18909.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].end |
18911.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].text |
所以你要回去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].start |
18911.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].end |
18913.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].text |
你要回去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].start |
18913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].end |
18915.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].text |
我們休息三十分鐘嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].start |
18915.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].end |
18917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].text |
我們就坐這裡嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].start |
18917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].end |
18919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].text |
下午茶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].start |
18919.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].end |
18921.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].text |
這個消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].start |
18921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].end |
18923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].text |
然後這一杯是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].start |
18925.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].end |
18927.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].start |
18927.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].end |
18929.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].text |
說出來有點水 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].start |
18929.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].end |
18931.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].start |
18933.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].end |
18935.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].text |
回去要再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].start |
18940.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].end |
18942.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].start |
18944.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].end |
18946.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].text |
還有三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].start |
18947.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].end |
18949.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].text |
又回來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].start |
18949.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].end |
18951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].text |
他剛坐這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].start |
18954.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].end |
18956.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].start |
18958.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].end |
18960.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].text |
拿走 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].start |
18993.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].end |
18995.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].text |
拿走 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].start |
18997.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].end |
18999.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].text |
OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].start |
19002.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].end |
19004.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].start |
19003.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].end |
19005.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].start |
19005.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].end |
19007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].text |
在這個茶會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].start |
19326.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].end |
19328.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].start |
19352.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].end |
19354.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].start |
19353.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].end |
19355.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].text |
要還人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].start |
19355.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].end |
19357.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].text |
要還人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].start |
19357.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].end |
19359.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].text |
這個穿橘色的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].start |
19361.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].end |
19363.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].text |
我有想到學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].start |
19363.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].end |
19365.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].text |
有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].start |
19365.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].end |
19367.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].text |
現在正在想著什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].start |
19385.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].end |
19387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].text |
不會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].start |
19393.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].end |
19395.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].start |
19396.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].end |
19398.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].text |
很好玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].start |
19400.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].end |
19402.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].start |
19407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].end |
19409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].start |
19409.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].end |
19411.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].text |
這裡有個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].start |
19415.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].end |
19417.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].text |
他們是講重新講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].start |
19426.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].end |
19428.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].start |
19429.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].end |
19431.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].start |
19430.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].end |
19432.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].start |
19433.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].end |
19435.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].text |
可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].start |
19453.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].end |
19455.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].start |
19455.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].end |
19457.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].start |
19457.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].end |
19459.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].text |
謝謝 |
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19555.55 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7101].text |
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| transcript.whisperx[7102].text |
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19561.55 |
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謝謝 |
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19561.55 |
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19563.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].text |
謝謝 |
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19563.55 |
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19565.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].text |
謝謝 |
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19545.8 |
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19547.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].start |
19548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].end |
19550.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].text |
不用緊張 |
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19550.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].end |
19552.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].text |
放心 |
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19552.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].end |
19554.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].text |
不會讓你們回去不能交代 |
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19554.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].end |
19556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].text |
真的 |
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19556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].end |
19558.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].text |
五百一十個是甚麼意義 |
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19558.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].end |
19560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].text |
你也沒有看裡面在裝 |
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19559.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].end |
19561.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].text |
但是以往對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].start |
19562.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].end |
19564.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].text |
我們不讓他們丟掉 |
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19563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].end |
19565.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].text |
我們在錄影中 |
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19565.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].end |
19567.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].text |
只要特別預算 |
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19567.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7117].end |
19569.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7117].text |
我就要 |
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19569.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].end |
19571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].text |
要多要少 |
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19571.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].end |
19573.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].text |
再來一次 |
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19570.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].end |
19572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].text |
你們要堅持 |
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19572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7121].end |
19574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7121].text |
你們要堅持 |
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19574.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].end |
19576.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].text |
堅持也是我比較的想法 |
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19576.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7123].end |
19578.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7123].text |
我知道,因為還沒講到金額 |
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19578.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].end |
19580.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].text |
特別是還沒講到金額 |
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19586.84 |
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19588.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].text |
好玩的這麼吃完飯 |
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19588.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7126].end |
19590.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7126].text |
希望你們也這麼吃 |
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19595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].end |
19597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].text |
你可能覺得 |
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19597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].end |
19599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].text |
有些內部的問題我覺得是最詳細的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].start |
19599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].end |
19601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].text |
我剛講到的那個 |
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19601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].end |
19603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].start |
19608.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].end |
19610.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].text |
我們要發放 |
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19610.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].end |
19612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].text |
讓他玩四個 |
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19612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].end |
19614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].text |
要上獎他有力量 |
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19614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].end |
19616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].text |
要選上次獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].start |
19616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].end |
19618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].text |
不會讓他停留 |
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19618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7136].end |
19620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7136].text |
要人家選到獎品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].start |
19620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].end |
19622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].text |
他不能打你 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].start |
19622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].end |
19624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].text |
這個最好 |
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19624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].end |
19626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].text |
獎品 |
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19626.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].end |
19628.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].text |
很不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].start |
19628.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].end |
19630.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].text |
這樣他會被迫問 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].start |
19630.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].end |
19632.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].text |
今天我要這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].start |
19632.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].end |
19634.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].text |
所以我講完這兩句 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].start |
19634.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].end |
19636.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].text |
這是一種吵架的提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].start |
19636.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].end |
19638.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].text |
表演吵架 |
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19638.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].end |
19640.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].text |
最後這麼精明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].start |
19640.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].end |
19642.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].text |
不會有很多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].start |
19642.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].end |
19644.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].text |
要不然 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].start |
19644.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].end |
19646.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].text |
你這麼愛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].start |
19646.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].end |
19648.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].text |
你這麼愛漂亮 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].start |
19648.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].end |
19650.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].text |
這個假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].start |
19650.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].end |
19652.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].text |
很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].start |
19652.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].end |
19654.67 |
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你是不是想當成 |
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你是不是想當成 |
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謝謝大家 |
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21230.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].end |
21232.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].start |
21232.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].end |
21234.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].start |
21234.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].end |
21236.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].start |
21236.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].end |
21238.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].start |
21238.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].end |
21240.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].start |
21240.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].end |
21242.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].start |
21242.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].end |
21244.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].start |
21244.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].end |
21246.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].start |
21231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].end |
21233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].start |
21232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].end |
21234.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].text |
好 我們現在會議繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].start |
21234.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].end |
21236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].text |
那我們現在進行到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].start |
21236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].end |
21238.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].start |
21238.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].end |
21240.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].text |
行政院版第五條這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].start |
21240.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].end |
21242.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].text |
也就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].start |
21244.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].end |
21246.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].text |
第十頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].start |
21246.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].end |
21248.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].text |
好 我們請這一個經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].start |
21248.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].end |
21250.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].text |
跟國防部分別說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].start |
21262.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].end |
21264.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].text |
報告委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].start |
21264.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].end |
21266.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].text |
這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].start |
21266.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].end |
21268.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].text |
行政院的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].start |
21268.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].end |
21270.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].text |
是整個經費採購的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].start |
21270.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].end |
21272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].text |
為兩千一百億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].start |
21272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].end |
21274.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].text |
那用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].start |
21275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].end |
21277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].text |
的方式來編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].start |
21277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].end |
21279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].text |
不受預算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].start |
21279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].end |
21281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].text |
第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].start |
21280.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].end |
21282.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].text |
這個限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].start |
21282.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].end |
21284.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].text |
其他委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].start |
21285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].end |
21287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].text |
也有各種不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].start |
21287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].end |
21289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].start |
21290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].end |
21292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].text |
這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].start |
21292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].end |
21294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].text |
包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].start |
21293.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].end |
21295.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].start |
21294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].end |
21296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].start |
21295.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].end |
21297.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].text |
呃 賴瑞榮委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].start |
21297.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].end |
21299.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].text |
呃 及這個李坤城委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].start |
21299.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].end |
21301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].text |
版本是兩千四百億元的特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].start |
21301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].end |
21303.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].text |
那其餘的版本都列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].start |
21303.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].end |
21305.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].text |
是列兩千一百億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].start |
21305.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].end |
21307.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].text |
特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].start |
21307.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].end |
21309.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].text |
那另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].start |
21309.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].end |
21311.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].text |
這個王定宇委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].start |
21311.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].end |
21313.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].text |
沒有訂這個經費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].start |
21313.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].end |
21315.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].text |
總的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].start |
21315.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].end |
21317.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].text |
那才一年一起編列特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].start |
21318.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].end |
21320.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].text |
那另外賴斯巴委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].start |
21320.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].end |
21322.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].text |
A是採500億元特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].start |
21322.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].end |
21324.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].text |
並提撥至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].start |
21324.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].end |
21326.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].text |
70%的辦理技術預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].start |
21326.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].end |
21328.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].text |
那另外國民黨版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].start |
21328.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].end |
21330.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].text |
則採6年每年400億元的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].start |
21330.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].end |
21332.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].text |
年度特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].start |
21332.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].end |
21334.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].text |
總額是兩千四百億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].start |
21334.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].end |
21336.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].text |
那我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].start |
21336.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].end |
21338.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].text |
是建立就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].start |
21338.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].end |
21340.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].text |
因為用特別預算的這個編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].start |
21340.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].end |
21342.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].text |
比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].start |
21342.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].end |
21344.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].text |
容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].start |
21343.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].end |
21345.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].text |
呃 有一個這個長期的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].start |
21345.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].end |
21347.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].text |
預算的一個來源喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].start |
21347.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].end |
21349.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].text |
比較不會受到預算的一個排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].start |
21349.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].end |
21351.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].text |
刪減或審查失成的一個延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].start |
21352.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].end |
21354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].text |
呃 以避免增加採購的一個不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].start |
21354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].end |
21356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].text |
那影響業者投入的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].start |
21356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].end |
21358.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].text |
所以 呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].start |
21358.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].end |
21360.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].text |
請各位委員來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].start |
21360.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].end |
21362.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].text |
這個行政院的版本 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].start |
21364.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].end |
21366.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].text |
我們請國防部 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].start |
21367.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].end |
21367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].text |
啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].start |
21369.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].end |
21371.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].text |
主席各位我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].start |
21372.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].end |
21373.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].text |
yo |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].start |
21373.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].end |
21374.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].text |
in |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].start |
21374.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].end |
21378.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].text |
條例我們還是一再的強調要有他的目的性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].start |
21379.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].end |
21382.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].text |
那我我們的就是一個特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].start |
21382.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].end |
21385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].text |
那目的就是要以特別預算方式來編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].start |
21385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].end |
21388.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].text |
那如果說不編入特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].start |
21389.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].end |
21392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].text |
不以特別條例然後編入特別預算的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].start |
21392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].end |
21396.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].text |
那每年應該要怎麼樣編列年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].start |
21396.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].end |
21397.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].text |
那就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].start |
21398.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].end |
21400.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].start |
21399.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].end |
21401.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].text |
的權責啊這個我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].start |
21402.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].end |
21404.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].text |
無待於立法再來明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].start |
21405.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].end |
21407.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].text |
這應該是很清楚的一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].start |
21409.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].end |
21411.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].text |
事情嘛而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].start |
21411.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].end |
21413.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].text |
說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].start |
21412.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].end |
21414.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].text |
國民黨團體案這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].start |
21414.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].end |
21418.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].text |
無人的宰居是包括所有的無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].start |
21418.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].end |
21420.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].text |
也沒有特定的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].start |
21420.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].end |
21422.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].text |
然後說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].start |
21422.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].end |
21425.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].text |
這個中央政府允許年度預算編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].start |
21426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].end |
21428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].text |
每年就編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].start |
21428.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].end |
21432.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].text |
我想所有的無人宰居我們到時候應該要編列多少這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].start |
21433.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].end |
21435.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].text |
這個應該是我們行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].start |
21437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].end |
21439.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].text |
本於我們光復的提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].start |
21439.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].end |
21441.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].text |
然後以及我們收斷許久 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].start |
21441.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].end |
21443.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].text |
就各種各樣的無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].start |
21443.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].end |
21447.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].text |
在年度預算我們都會有不同方式的不同金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].start |
21447.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].end |
21449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].text |
不同這個需求項目的編列嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].start |
21449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].end |
21451.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].start |
21450.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].end |
21452.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].text |
我想立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].start |
21453.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].end |
21455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].text |
直接下一個指導起訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].start |
21455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].end |
21457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].text |
就所有的無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].start |
21457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].end |
21459.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].text |
的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].start |
21459.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].end |
21461.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].start |
21460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].end |
21462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].text |
加上他在16頭所提出的其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].start |
21462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].end |
21466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].text |
兩款跟這個產業經濟盤有關的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].start |
21467.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].end |
21469.29 |
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就每年要編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].start |
21469.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].end |
21471.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].text |
就每年要編列410 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].start |
21471.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].end |
21473.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].text |
也就只編列410 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].start |
21473.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].end |
21475.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].text |
也只能准編列410 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].start |
21475.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].end |
21477.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].text |
那也要求要編列410 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].start |
21477.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].end |
21479.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].text |
那我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].start |
21479.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].end |
21481.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].text |
那到了立法院來以後立法院到底要如何審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].start |
21481.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].end |
21483.29 |
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這樣的年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].start |
21482.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].end |
21484.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].text |
我個人實在是完全無法理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].start |
21484.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].end |
21486.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].text |
我也沒辦法能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].start |
21488.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].end |
21490.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].text |
同意這樣的一個立法方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].start |
21490.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].end |
21492.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].text |
那說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].start |
21492.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].end |
21494.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].text |
這是合乎這個立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].start |
21494.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].end |
21496.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].text |
跟行政權這個分立 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].start |
21496.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].end |
21498.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].text |
行政院負責編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].start |
21498.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].end |
21500.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].text |
立法院負責審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].start |
21500.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].end |
21502.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].text |
這樣的一個非常基本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].start |
21502.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].end |
21504.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].text |
淺顯的一個道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].start |
21506.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].end |
21508.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].text |
謝謝國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].start |
21508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].end |
21510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].text |
好,求而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].start |
21511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].end |
21513.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].start |
21513.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].end |
21515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].text |
我想針對這個第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].start |
21515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].end |
21519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].text |
也看同步看到國民黨團的提案的第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].start |
21519.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].end |
21521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].text |
這個國民黨團的提案是要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].start |
21521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].end |
21523.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].text |
這個採購條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].start |
21524.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].end |
21526.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].text |
把它編列在年度預算裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].start |
21526.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].end |
21528.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].text |
那也 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].start |
21528.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].end |
21530.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].text |
我來是不是能夠再 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].start |
21530.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].end |
21532.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].text |
就教一下國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].start |
21532.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].end |
21534.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].text |
每年編列400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].start |
21534.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].end |
21536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].text |
的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].start |
21536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].end |
21538.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].text |
你每年只有400億可以花 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].start |
21539.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].end |
21541.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].text |
那如果國防部需要一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].start |
21541.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].end |
21543.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].text |
長單訂購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].start |
21543.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].end |
21545.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].text |
你今年的採購可能需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].start |
21545.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].end |
21547.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].text |
多一點的經費的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].start |
21547.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].end |
21549.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].text |
但是你這個年度只編列400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].start |
21549.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].end |
21551.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].text |
那你能不能採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].start |
21551.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].end |
21553.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].text |
你能不能動用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].start |
21553.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].end |
21555.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].text |
又或者你到第五年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].start |
21555.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].end |
21557.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].text |
你其實根本不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].start |
21557.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].end |
21559.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].text |
到400億的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].start |
21559.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].end |
21561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].text |
可是立法院立的法又規定你 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].start |
21561.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].end |
21563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].text |
必須要編列400億去採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].start |
21563.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].end |
21565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].text |
那請問你要採購什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].start |
21565.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].end |
21567.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].text |
你要買什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].start |
21569.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].end |
21571.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].start |
21570.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].end |
21572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].text |
過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].start |
21572.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].end |
21574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].text |
還是還再講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].start |
21574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].end |
21576.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].text |
當然立法委員這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].start |
21576.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].end |
21578.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].text |
我實在是沒有看過這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].start |
21578.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].end |
21580.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].text |
國防採購的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].start |
21580.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].end |
21582.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].start |
21582.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].end |
21584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].start |
21584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].end |
21586.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].start |
21586.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].end |
21588.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].start |
21588.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].end |
21590.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].start |
21590.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].end |
21592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].start |
21592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].end |
21594.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].start |
21594.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].end |
21596.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].start |
21596.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].end |
21598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].start |
21598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].end |
21600.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].start |
21600.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].end |
21602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].start |
21602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].end |
21604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].start |
21604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].end |
21606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].start |
21606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].end |
21608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].text |
那這個對於國防需求上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].start |
21591.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].end |
21593.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].text |
彈性不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].start |
21593.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].end |
21595.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].text |
自主性不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].start |
21595.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].end |
21597.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].text |
需求性也不見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].start |
21597.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].end |
21599.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].text |
那請問這樣的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].start |
21599.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].end |
21601.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].text |
到底有沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].start |
21601.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].end |
21603.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].text |
他是為了採購而採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].start |
21603.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].end |
21605.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].text |
還是真的是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].start |
21605.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].end |
21607.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].text |
符合現在現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].start |
21607.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].end |
21609.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].text |
台灣的國防需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].start |
21610.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].end |
21612.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].text |
來去做採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].start |
21612.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].end |
21614.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].text |
這個我想也要再次提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].start |
21614.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].end |
21616.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].text |
行政院版的2100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].start |
21616.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].end |
21618.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].text |
其實我們用特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].start |
21618.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].end |
21620.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].text |
特別預算去支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].start |
21620.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].end |
21622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].text |
今天早上我也提過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].start |
21622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].end |
21624.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].text |
特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].start |
21625.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].end |
21627.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].text |
特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].start |
21627.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].end |
21629.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].text |
每一個預算每一個採購項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].start |
21629.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].end |
21631.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].text |
其實都是清楚可見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].start |
21631.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].end |
21633.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].text |
那不會被呼嚨掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].start |
21633.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].end |
21635.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].text |
不會被含糊掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].start |
21635.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].end |
21637.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].text |
也可以非常清楚知道國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].start |
21637.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].end |
21639.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].text |
需要怎麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].start |
21639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].end |
21641.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].text |
這樣的採購編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].start |
21641.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].end |
21643.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].text |
所以我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].start |
21643.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].end |
21645.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].text |
不太懂國民黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].start |
21645.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].end |
21647.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].text |
奇案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].start |
21647.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].end |
21649.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].text |
這個我是不是能夠再請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].start |
21649.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].end |
21651.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].text |
也再說明一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].start |
21651.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].end |
21653.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].text |
好 請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].start |
21656.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].end |
21658.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].text |
國防部再次表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].start |
21658.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].end |
21660.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].start |
21659.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].end |
21661.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].start |
21661.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].end |
21663.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].text |
今天所列出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].start |
21663.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].end |
21665.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].text |
在第四條所列的採購項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].start |
21665.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].end |
21667.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].start |
21667.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].end |
21669.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].text |
非常的明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].start |
21669.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].end |
21671.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].text |
也非常明確的表示要用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].start |
21671.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].end |
21673.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].text |
這不表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].start |
21673.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].end |
21675.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].text |
我們所需要的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].start |
21675.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].end |
21677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].text |
只有這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].start |
21677.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].end |
21679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].text |
所以我們的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].start |
21679.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].end |
21681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].text |
範圍會包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].start |
21681.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].end |
21683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].text |
隨著這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].start |
21683.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].end |
21685.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].text |
我們的作戰需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].start |
21685.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].end |
21687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].text |
我們相關的建案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].start |
21687.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].end |
21689.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].text |
那個完整以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].start |
21689.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].end |
21691.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].text |
我們會再有提出其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].start |
21691.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].end |
21693.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].text |
一些需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].start |
21693.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].end |
21695.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].text |
像我們現在MQ-9B |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].start |
21695.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].end |
21697.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].text |
會再進行交裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].start |
21697.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].end |
21699.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].text |
那這個MQ-9B事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].start |
21699.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].end |
21701.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].text |
我們就是擺在我們的年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].start |
21701.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].end |
21703.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].text |
預算裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].start |
21703.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].end |
21705.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].text |
那我們還會有一些地面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].start |
21705.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].end |
21707.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].start |
21707.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].end |
21709.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].text |
甚至以之後如果這個成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].start |
21709.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].end |
21711.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].text |
我們還有水下的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].start |
21711.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].end |
21713.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].text |
這些都會放在我們相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].start |
21713.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].end |
21715.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].text |
做成建案之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].start |
21715.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].end |
21717.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].text |
提出相關的這些需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].start |
21717.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].end |
21719.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].text |
所以立法上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].start |
21719.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].end |
21721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].text |
給我們的一個授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].start |
21721.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].end |
21723.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].text |
一定是要明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].start |
21723.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].end |
21725.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].text |
我們現在明確的就是這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].start |
21725.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].end |
21727.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].text |
的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].start |
21727.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].end |
21729.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].text |
那這三款的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].start |
21729.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].end |
21731.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].text |
我們打算用特別預算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].start |
21731.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].end |
21733.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].text |
那其目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].start |
21733.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].end |
21735.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].text |
已經講過非常多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].start |
21735.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].end |
21737.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].text |
我就不再贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].start |
21737.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].end |
21739.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].text |
但是沒有辦法能夠想像說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].start |
21739.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].end |
21741.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].text |
所有的無人載具在立法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].start |
21742.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].end |
21744.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].text |
要求我們在行年度預算的程序的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].start |
21746.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].end |
21748.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].text |
會直接明定要求我們每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].start |
21748.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].end |
21750.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].text |
應該要編列多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].start |
21750.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].end |
21752.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].start |
21753.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].end |
21755.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].text |
在我來講這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].start |
21755.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].end |
21757.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].text |
無從想像的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].start |
21757.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].end |
21759.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].start |
21758.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].end |
21760.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].text |
他發生很多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].start |
21760.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].end |
21762.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].text |
第一個我們如果在那一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].start |
21762.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].end |
21764.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].text |
沒有就這個無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].start |
21764.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].end |
21766.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].text |
編組到400億有沒有違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].start |
21766.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].end |
21768.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].text |
第二個我們超過400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].start |
21768.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].end |
21770.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].text |
有沒有違法第三個立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].start |
21770.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].end |
21772.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].text |
砍掉剩下不足400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].start |
21772.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].end |
21774.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].text |
有沒有違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].start |
21775.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].end |
21777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].text |
我沒有辦法回答任何一個這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].start |
21779.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].end |
21781.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].text |
這樣的立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].start |
21781.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].end |
21783.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].text |
我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].start |
21782.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].end |
21784.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].text |
我沒有辦法能夠想像是有在促進無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].start |
21784.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].end |
21786.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].text |
對我們國防需求的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].start |
21786.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].end |
21788.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].text |
迫切性的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].start |
21788.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].end |
21790.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].text |
一個立法目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].start |
21794.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].end |
21796.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].text |
好中交病委有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7772].start |
21796.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7772].end |
21798.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7772].text |
那個鄭天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7773].start |
21803.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7773].end |
21805.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7773].text |
今天是立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7774].start |
21806.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7774].end |
21808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7774].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7775].start |
21807.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7775].end |
21809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7775].text |
我也再強調到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[7776].start |
21810.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7776].end |
21812.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7776].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7777].start |
21811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7777].end |
21813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7777].text |
都還沒有說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7778].start |
21813.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7778].end |
21815.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7778].text |
什麼叫國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[7779].start |
21815.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7779].end |
21817.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7779].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7780].start |
21819.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7780].end |
21821.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7780].text |
從第一條到最後一條看不到國防自主了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7781].start |
21823.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7781].end |
21825.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7781].text |
只看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7782].start |
21825.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7782].end |
21827.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7782].text |
這邊特別一算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7783].start |
21827.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7783].end |
21829.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7783].text |
這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7784].start |
21829.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7784].end |
21831.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7784].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7785].start |
21830.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7785].end |
21832.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7785].text |
剛才部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7786].start |
21833.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7786].end |
21835.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7786].text |
講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7787].start |
21835.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7787].end |
21837.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7787].text |
你說你用特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7788].start |
21838.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7788].end |
21840.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7788].text |
一算二還是要送來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7789].start |
21842.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7789].end |
21844.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7789].text |
一算二還是要送來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7790].start |
21844.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7790].end |
21846.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7790].text |
那你說立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7791].start |
21846.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7791].end |
21848.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7791].text |
砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7792].start |
21847.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7792].end |
21849.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7792].text |
本來就可以砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7793].start |
21850.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7793].end |
21852.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7793].text |
那法律還明確了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].start |
21852.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].end |
21854.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].text |
當然大家就不會砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7795].start |
21856.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7795].end |
21858.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7795].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7796].start |
21858.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7796].end |
21860.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7796].text |
國民黨團所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7797].start |
21861.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7797].end |
21863.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7797].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].start |
21863.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].end |
21865.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].text |
國民黨所談團提的還明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].start |
21867.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].end |
21869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].text |
一個年度多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].start |
21871.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].end |
21873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].text |
大家就去尊重立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].start |
21873.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].end |
21875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].text |
去尊重這個自己所提的法律案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7802].start |
21875.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7802].end |
21877.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7802].text |
所通過的法律案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7803].start |
21877.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7803].end |
21879.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7803].text |
也就不會有什麼砍不砍的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7804].start |
21880.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7804].end |
21882.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7804].text |
所以按照你剛才的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7805].start |
21883.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7805].end |
21885.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7805].text |
好像法律明定的還可以砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7806].start |
21886.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7806].end |
21888.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7806].text |
所以這個部分是一個矛盾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7807].start |
21890.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7807].end |
21892.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7807].text |
那另外就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].start |
21892.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].end |
21894.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7809].start |
21893.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7809].end |
21895.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7809].text |
這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7810].start |
21895.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7810].end |
21897.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7810].text |
產業跟國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[7811].start |
21898.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7811].end |
21900.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7811].text |
共同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].start |
21899.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].end |
21901.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].text |
是共同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].start |
21901.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].end |
21903.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].text |
所以不是只有你國防部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].start |
21905.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].end |
21907.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].text |
是包含產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7815].start |
21907.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7815].end |
21909.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7815].text |
你國防部認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].start |
21910.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].end |
21912.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].start |
21911.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].end |
21913.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].text |
是白玉太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].start |
21913.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].end |
21915.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].text |
每年是白玉太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].start |
21915.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].end |
21917.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].text |
當然不是只有你還有產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].start |
21919.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].end |
21921.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].text |
還有產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[7821].start |
21921.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7821].end |
21923.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7821].text |
是這樣的一個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].start |
21924.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].end |
21926.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].start |
21926.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].end |
21928.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].text |
如果你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].start |
21928.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].end |
21930.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].text |
行政院所分配的每年400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7825].start |
21932.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7825].end |
21934.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7825].text |
經濟部產業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].start |
21935.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].end |
21937.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].text |
中科院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].start |
21936.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].end |
21938.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].text |
跟國防部你認為你的不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].start |
21940.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].end |
21942.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].text |
你的年度預算也可以去編的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].start |
21944.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].end |
21946.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].text |
除了這個400億之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].start |
21946.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].end |
21948.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].text |
你還是一樣可以去編的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].start |
21948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].end |
21950.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].text |
所以沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].start |
21950.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].end |
21952.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].text |
反對你去編的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].start |
21953.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].end |
21955.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].start |
21956.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].end |
21960.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].text |
因為從頭到尾我們既然是談 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].start |
21960.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].end |
21962.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].text |
國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].start |
21962.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].end |
21964.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].text |
無人載技 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].start |
21964.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].end |
21966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].text |
那就是要跟產業一起結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].start |
21967.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].end |
21969.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].text |
所以必須要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].start |
21969.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].end |
21971.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].text |
經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].start |
21971.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].end |
21973.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].text |
跟產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].start |
21974.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].end |
21976.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].text |
共同的來去推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].start |
21976.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].end |
21978.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].start |
21979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].end |
21981.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].start |
21980.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].end |
21982.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].text |
中嘉賓委員完 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].start |
21982.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].end |
21984.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].text |
然後之後賴氏寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].start |
21984.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].end |
21986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].start |
21986.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].end |
21988.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].text |
剛剛讓不同的政黨的不同版本表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].start |
21988.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].end |
21990.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].text |
但是我徵詢了我們民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].start |
21990.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].end |
21992.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].text |
並沒有要表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].start |
21992.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].end |
21994.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].text |
他說他們並沒有編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].start |
21994.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].end |
21996.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].text |
所以這一題就不參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].start |
21996.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].end |
21998.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].text |
那我想那就很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].start |
21998.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].end |
22000.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].text |
目前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].start |
22000.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].end |
22002.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].text |
有14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].start |
22002.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].end |
22004.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].text |
那其中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].start |
22004.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].end |
22006.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].text |
有12個版本有要動資預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].start |
22006.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].end |
22008.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].text |
有兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].start |
22008.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].end |
22010.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].text |
並沒有要動資預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].start |
22010.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].end |
22012.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].text |
就是分別是賴氏寶委員的V版 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].start |
22012.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].end |
22014.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].text |
跟民眾黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].start |
22014.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].end |
22016.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].text |
那12個要動資預算的版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].start |
22016.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].end |
22018.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].text |
多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].start |
22018.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].end |
22020.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].text |
就是有11個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].start |
22020.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].end |
22022.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].text |
是主張使用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].start |
22022.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].end |
22024.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].text |
那剛剛攻聯了我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].start |
22024.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].end |
22026.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].text |
政委員的一番談話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].start |
22026.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].end |
22028.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].text |
我想呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].start |
22028.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].end |
22030.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].text |
之前我也稍微的在公聽會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].start |
22030.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].end |
22032.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].text |
有用這個方式讓大家理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].start |
22032.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].end |
22034.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].text |
一般民眾的確不能區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].start |
22034.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].end |
22036.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].text |
中央政府的年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].start |
22036.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].end |
22038.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].text |
跟特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].start |
22038.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].end |
22040.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].text |
怎麼樣去區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].start |
22040.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].end |
22042.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].text |
那我就打個比方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].start |
22041.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].end |
22043.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].text |
念大學的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].start |
22043.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].end |
22045.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].text |
跟爸爸要錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].start |
22045.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].end |
22047.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].text |
要買電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].start |
22048.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].end |
22050.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].text |
要4萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].start |
22050.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].end |
22052.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].text |
那因為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].start |
22052.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].end |
22054.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].text |
爸爸每個月給孩子1萬的生活費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].start |
22054.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].end |
22056.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].text |
要付房租要付伙食 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].start |
22056.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].end |
22058.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].text |
要付手機要付這些零花 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].start |
22058.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].end |
22060.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].text |
那每個月1萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].start |
22060.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].end |
22062.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].text |
要再買個電腦呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].start |
22062.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].end |
22064.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].text |
不另外跟爸爸請款不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].start |
22064.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].end |
22066.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].text |
結果爸爸一聽電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].start |
22066.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].end |
22068.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].text |
喔對不起他說我要3萬買電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].start |
22068.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].end |
22070.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].text |
爸爸說3萬太少啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].start |
22070.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].end |
22072.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].text |
現在呢晶片都漲價了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].start |
22072.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].end |
22074.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].text |
我給你4萬買電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].start |
22074.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].end |
22076.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].text |
但是呢請你從你每個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].start |
22076.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].end |
22078.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].text |
1萬元的零用錢自己扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].start |
22078.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].end |
22080.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].text |
請問如果就用我們一個月的零 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].start |
22080.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].end |
22082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].text |
每個月1萬塊的零用錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].start |
22082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].end |
22084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].text |
我還要另外去請款嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].start |
22084.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].end |
22086.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].text |
現在我們的年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].start |
22086.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].end |
22090.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].text |
就好比是固定中央政府要支出的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].start |
22091.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].end |
22093.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].text |
這些項目在國安部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].start |
22093.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].end |
22095.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].text |
都已經有律定要進行的軍備採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].start |
22096.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].end |
22098.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].text |
那麼無人載具這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].start |
22098.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].end |
22100.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].text |
為什麼要另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].start |
22100.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].end |
22102.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].text |
一筆完整的預算來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].start |
22102.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].end |
22104.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].text |
其實剛剛部長也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].start |
22104.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].end |
22106.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].text |
那如果說大家不健忘的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].start |
22106.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].end |
22108.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].text |
我願意再幫他複習一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].start |
22110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].end |
22112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].text |
其實以MQ9B來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].start |
22112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].end |
22114.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].text |
我們就是用年度預算採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].start |
22116.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].end |
22118.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].text |
那這個有沒有需要立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].start |
22118.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].end |
22120.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].text |
通過一個特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].start |
22120.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].end |
22122.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].text |
才能去購買啊沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].start |
22122.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].end |
22124.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].text |
因為行政權他基於國防需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].start |
22124.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].end |
22126.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].text |
他就可以編在年度預算去採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].start |
22126.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].end |
22128.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].text |
如果立法院有不同意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].start |
22128.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].end |
22130.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].text |
你大可在年度預算審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].start |
22130.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].end |
22132.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].text |
你去做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].start |
22132.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].end |
22134.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].text |
一些調整山或洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].start |
22135.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].end |
22137.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].text |
這個都可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].start |
22137.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].end |
22139.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].text |
但是MQ9B好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].start |
22140.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].end |
22142.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].text |
在野黨也並沒有認為不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].start |
22142.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].end |
22144.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].text |
所以我們很辛苦的千金萬武的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].start |
22144.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].end |
22146.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].text |
我們籌獲了這幾架珍貴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].start |
22149.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].end |
22151.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].text |
戰略價值的資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].start |
22151 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].end |
22153 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].text |
好那現在國防部很清楚的講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].start |
22153 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].end |
22155 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].text |
我現有的預算規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].start |
22155 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].end |
22157 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].text |
我額外的還需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].start |
22157 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].end |
22159 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].text |
去添購這三款的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].start |
22159 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].end |
22161 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].text |
那其他的無人載具呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].start |
22161 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].end |
22163 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].text |
其他無人載具目前按照國防部的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].start |
22163 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].end |
22167 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].text |
按照他們既有的年度預算的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].start |
22167 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].end |
22169 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].text |
他們可以來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].start |
22169 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].end |
22171 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].text |
能夠來進行支配 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].start |
22172.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].end |
22174.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].text |
但是為什麼這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].start |
22174.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].end |
22181.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].text |
需要一個2100億到2031年之前去執行完畢呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].start |
22181.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].end |
22183.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].text |
過去也講了很多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].start |
22183.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].end |
22187.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].text |
這三款就是台海防衛需要的大量裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].start |
22187.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].end |
22191.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].text |
而且是屬於很多是屬於消耗型的裝備 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].start |
22191.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].end |
22193.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].text |
而且這個消耗我們要有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].start |
22193.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].end |
22195.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].text |
自行產製補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].start |
22196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].end |
22198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].text |
不是像愛國者飛彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].start |
22198.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].end |
22200.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].text |
愛國者飛彈打完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].start |
22199.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].end |
22201.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].text |
就要再跟美國調 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].start |
22202 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].end |
22204 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].text |
但是呢如果這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].start |
22204.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].end |
22206.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].text |
在未來的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].start |
22206.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].end |
22208.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].text |
不管是演訓用掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].start |
22208.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].end |
22210.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].text |
還是真正的狀況發生用掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].start |
22210.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].end |
22212.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].text |
我們還有源源不斷的後勤能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].start |
22212.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].end |
22214.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].text |
來自主生產供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].start |
22214.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].end |
22217.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].text |
所以上午一直有委員關心這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].start |
22217.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].end |
22219.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].text |
到底我們本國有沒有產製能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].start |
22219.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].end |
22221.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].text |
我也可以很負責任的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].start |
22221.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].end |
22223.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].text |
就跟東科院的院長一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].start |
22224.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].end |
22226.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].text |
我們是有能力生產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].start |
22226.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].end |
22229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].text |
但是我們有沒有廠商現在要投產 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].start |
22229.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].end |
22230.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].text |
抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].start |
22230.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].end |
22235.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].text |
沒有整架整機要投產的這樣的一個完整的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].start |
22235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].end |
22238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].text |
因為投資產生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].start |
22238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].end |
22239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].text |
它要幾個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].start |
22239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].end |
22240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].text |
第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].start |
22241.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].end |
22243.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].text |
它的規模要夠大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].start |
22243.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].end |
22245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].text |
我才值得我去設置產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].start |
22245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].end |
22247.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].text |
我們很多人有能力做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].start |
22247.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].end |
22249.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].text |
但是呢因為規模不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].start |
22249.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].end |
22251.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].text |
我不會再去設置產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].start |
22251.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].end |
22252.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].text |
如果不設置產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].start |
22252.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].end |
22253.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].text |
我要跟別人share |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].start |
22254.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].end |
22255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].text |
像光電球 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].start |
22255.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].end |
22257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].text |
我們去跟東歐買 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].start |
22257.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].end |
22258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].text |
可以人家不賣你 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].start |
22258.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].end |
22260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].text |
人家現在大部分都供應給烏克蘭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].start |
22260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].end |
22262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].text |
他幹嘛要分他的工 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].start |
22263.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].end |
22265.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].text |
我再講一個很具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].start |
22265.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].end |
22268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].text |
現在烏克蘭使用的長程製造無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].start |
22268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].end |
22270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].text |
他用的噴射引擎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].start |
22270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].end |
22272.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].text |
是小型渦輪噴射引擎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].start |
22272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].end |
22275.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].text |
結果目前世界上過去有在生產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].start |
22275.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].end |
22277.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].text |
因為小型渦輪噴射引擎的市場很小 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].start |
22277.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].end |
22279.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].text |
航模的玩家在用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].start |
22280.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].end |
22283.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].text |
就偏偏的有台灣有一家工廠在生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].start |
22283.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].end |
22284.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].text |
而且還做得不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].start |
22284.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].end |
22285.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].text |
CP值很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].start |
22285.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].end |
22287.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].text |
所以後來烏克蘭透過其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].start |
22287.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].end |
22289.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].text |
來跟台灣進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].start |
22290.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].end |
22292.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].text |
可以說目前這個世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].start |
22292.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].end |
22295.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].text |
原來做航模的小型渦輪噴射引擎的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].start |
22295.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].end |
22297.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].text |
他現在全年的產量 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].start |
22297.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].end |
22300.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].text |
都全部給烏克蘭的需求給吃掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].start |
22301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].end |
22304.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].text |
那你說現在我們要他再生產供應給我們的國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].start |
22304.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].end |
22305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].text |
那他當然說好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].start |
22305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].end |
22307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].text |
那我要設置產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].start |
22307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].end |
22310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].text |
產線設置下去一年要一萬粒一萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].start |
22310.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].end |
22311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].text |
你吃得下來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].start |
22312.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].end |
22314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].text |
那我們國安部算一算可能啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].start |
22314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].end |
22316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].text |
可是我不是一年一萬顆啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].start |
22316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].end |
22319.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].text |
我六年我五年我可能需要這個量 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].start |
22319.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].end |
22321.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].text |
那你幫我建置產線好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].start |
22321.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].end |
22322.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].text |
我是打個比方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].start |
22322.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].end |
22323.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].text |
假設狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].start |
22323.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].end |
22324.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].text |
那人家才會願意生產啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].start |
22325.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].end |
22327.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].text |
我們的廠商是有能力生產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].start |
22327.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].end |
22329.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].text |
但是如果你沒有一個規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].start |
22329.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].end |
22332.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].text |
他不會再額外的去製造設置產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].start |
22332.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].end |
22334.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].text |
因為開發產線需要投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].start |
22334.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].end |
22338.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].text |
那這次單單指未來這種消耗型的這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].start |
22338.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].end |
22340.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].text |
他需要在國內有產製能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].start |
22340.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].end |
22342.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].text |
另外一個類似的就是晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].start |
22342.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].end |
22344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].text |
晶片你開模不要說開模 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].start |
22344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].end |
22345.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].text |
開模是慣用語啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].start |
22345.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].end |
22347.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].text |
這個主席一定更了解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].start |
22347.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].end |
22348.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].text |
沒有上萬顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].start |
22349.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].end |
22350.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].text |
誰會幫你開啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].start |
22351.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].end |
22352.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].text |
你的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].start |
22353.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].end |
22355.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].start |
22354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].end |
22356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].text |
封裝這些所有的生產過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].start |
22356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].end |
22359.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].text |
如果沒有幾萬顆幾十萬顆的晶片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].start |
22359.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].end |
22361.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].text |
沒有人會幫你生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].start |
22361.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].end |
22363.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].text |
所以國安部這邊需要這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].start |
22363.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].end |
22365.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].text |
為什麼晶片這麼重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].start |
22366.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].end |
22370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].text |
晶片越否認物專對政府來設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].start |
22370.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].end |
22371.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].text |
他會越輕巧 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].start |
22371.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].end |
22375.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].text |
當然目前以我們國內這些在設計無人載具的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].start |
22375.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].end |
22377.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].text |
他們用現有的晶片還是可以組裝成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].start |
22377.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].end |
22379.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].text |
達成任務的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].start |
22379.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].end |
22382.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].text |
但是可能他的系統就會比較龐大 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].start |
22382.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].end |
22384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].text |
晶片不能輕薄短小 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].start |
22384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].end |
22385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].text |
要做自殺型的任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].start |
22385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].end |
22387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].text |
最好將所有的功能all in one |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].start |
22387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].end |
22389.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].text |
在一個晶片上就是執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].start |
22389.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].end |
22391.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].text |
這樣的晶片設計開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].start |
22391.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].end |
22393.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].text |
需要什麼需要時間之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].start |
22393.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].end |
22396.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].text |
需要資金需要有未來的訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].start |
22396.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].end |
22399.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].text |
這三款無人載具我們所需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].start |
22400.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].end |
22404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].text |
額外國防部希望行政院期望透過立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].start |
22404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].end |
22408.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].text |
來提出一筆兩千一百億到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].start |
22409.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].end |
22412.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].text |
2031年可以執行的一筆長單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].start |
22412.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].end |
22413.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].text |
這就是目前的原因啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].start |
22413.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].end |
22415.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].text |
那如果我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].start |
22415.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].end |
22416.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].text |
不討論特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].start |
22417.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].end |
22419.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].text |
要用其他的方式年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].start |
22419.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].end |
22421.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].text |
根本不需要另外訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].start |
22421.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].end |
22424.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].text |
依現在我們中央政府的預算規模3兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].start |
22424.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].end |
22426.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].text |
就要裡面去挪去雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].start |
22426.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].end |
22428.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].text |
那是不是我們愛國者飛彈就少買了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].start |
22428.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].end |
22430.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].text |
我們的海馬仕就會少補充了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].start |
22431.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].end |
22435.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].text |
那這當然會影響到我們其他的戰備的一個準備嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].start |
22435.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].end |
22437.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].text |
所以當然是要額外買 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].start |
22437.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].end |
22439.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].text |
所以如果在野黨的委員口口聲聲說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].start |
22439.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].end |
22441.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].text |
要關心我們國防的自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].start |
22441.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].end |
22444.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].text |
要支持我們國內的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].start |
22444.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].end |
22448.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].text |
你就要給行政院一筆特別預算 |
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22448.36 |
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22452.36 |
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在2031年之前能夠支持產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].start |
22452.36 |
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22454.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].text |
他針對我們這三款的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].start |
22454.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].end |
22456.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].text |
消耗型的自主生產型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].start |
22456.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].end |
22459.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].text |
未來台海防衛迫切需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].start |
22459.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].end |
22463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].text |
讓他趕快展開設計研發跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].start |
22463.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].end |
22464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].text |
設線生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].start |
22464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].end |
22465.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].text |
這才是我們的正辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].start |
22465.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].end |
22468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].text |
今天在這邊多討論個幾小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].start |
22469.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].end |
22472.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].text |
不要影響到未來幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].start |
22472.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].end |
22474.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].text |
我們這邊差個兩三個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].start |
22474.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].end |
22475.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].text |
好好的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].start |
22475.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].end |
22477.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].text |
把他的這個立法立好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].start |
22477.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].end |
22479.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].text |
會讓我們的業界未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].start |
22479.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].end |
22481.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].text |
滿足我們國防部的戰備需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].start |
22481.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].end |
22483.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].text |
是很有大的幫助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].start |
22483.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].end |
22485.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].text |
所以我再次提醒主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].start |
22485.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].end |
22487.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].text |
我們目前有14個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].start |
22488.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].end |
22490.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].text |
除了賴世保委員的B版 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].start |
22490.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].end |
22491.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].text |
跟民進黨黨堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].start |
22492.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].end |
22495.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].text |
沒有涉及到預算的支用之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].start |
22495.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].end |
22496.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].text |
其他的12個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].start |
22496.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].end |
22498.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].text |
有11個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].start |
22498.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].end |
22499.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].text |
都是用特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].start |
22499.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].end |
22501.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].text |
所以我們再次的強調支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].start |
22501.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].end |
22504.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].text |
用行政院特別預算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].start |
22504.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].end |
22506.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].text |
編列2100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].start |
22506.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].end |
22507.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].text |
在2031年之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].start |
22507.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].end |
22509.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].text |
供給我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].start |
22509.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].end |
22510.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].text |
我們的軍隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].start |
22510.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].end |
22511.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].text |
我們的國軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].start |
22511.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].end |
22512.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].text |
可以購買這三款的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].start |
22512.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].end |
22513.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].start |
22514.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].end |
22516.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].text |
好 我們請賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].start |
22517.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].end |
22519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].text |
謝謝 我剛才以為說宗教病委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].start |
22519.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].end |
22521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].text |
會最後說支持賴世保的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].start |
22521.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].end |
22523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].text |
國保院 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].start |
22523.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].end |
22525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].text |
這個行政院2100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].start |
22525.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].end |
22527.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].text |
賴世保就500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].start |
22527.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].end |
22529.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].text |
但是賴世保的500億是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].start |
22529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].end |
22530.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].text |
唯一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].start |
22531.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].end |
22533.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].text |
技術分析 技術轉移的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].start |
22533.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].end |
22534.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].text |
第一個要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].start |
22534.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].end |
22535.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].start |
22536.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].end |
22538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].text |
第二個 政府採購 沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].start |
22538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].end |
22540.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].text |
政府採購技術移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].start |
22540.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].end |
22541.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].text |
這兩個要加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].start |
22542.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].end |
22543.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].text |
第二個要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].start |
22544.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].end |
22546.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].text |
其實第五條是重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].start |
22546.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].end |
22547.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].text |
最重要是第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].start |
22548.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].end |
22550.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].text |
行政院管制2100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].start |
22552.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].end |
22554.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].text |
在野黨 國民黨團就是2400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].start |
22556.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].end |
22558.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].text |
然後民進黨是沒有上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].start |
22559.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].end |
22560.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].text |
就這麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].start |
22560.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].end |
22561.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].text |
你們說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].start |
22561.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].end |
22563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].text |
你們的理由都不是理由啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].start |
22563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].end |
22564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].text |
你可以想 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].start |
22564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].end |
22565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].start |
22565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].end |
22566.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].text |
經濟部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].start |
22567.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].end |
22569.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].text |
剛通過一個不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].start |
22569.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].end |
22572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].text |
無人載具產業發展統籌性計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].start |
22572.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].end |
22573.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].text |
442億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].start |
22574.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].end |
22575.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].text |
他就根據一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].start |
22577.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].end |
22578.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].text |
來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].start |
22578.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].end |
22580.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].text |
沒有 他就根據一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].start |
22580.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].end |
22581.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].text |
他是有計畫的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].start |
22581.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].end |
22582.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].start |
22583.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].end |
22584.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].text |
剛才早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].start |
22584.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].end |
22586.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].text |
我們在休息之前不是早上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].start |
22587.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].end |
22588.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].text |
我不想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].start |
22588.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].end |
22589.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].text |
他就要那三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].start |
22589.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].end |
22590.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].text |
一個 間 什麼 間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].start |
22592.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].end |
22595.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].text |
檢查或者監測的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].start |
22595.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].end |
22596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].text |
自查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].start |
22596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].end |
22598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].text |
無人機 無人艇 三大箱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].start |
22599.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].end |
22600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].text |
這個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].start |
22600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].end |
22601.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].text |
在國民黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].start |
22601.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].end |
22602.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].text |
國民黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].start |
22602.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].end |
22604.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].text |
民眾黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].start |
22604.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].end |
22605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].text |
統統支持你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].start |
22605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].end |
22606.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].text |
現在問題就在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].start |
22606.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].end |
22608.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].text |
特別預算還是一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].start |
22610.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].end |
22611.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].text |
這個你現在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].start |
22611.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].end |
22612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].text |
啊 那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].start |
22612.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].end |
22613.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].text |
我要買愛國者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].start |
22613.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].end |
22614.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].text |
愛國者去買啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].start |
22615.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].end |
22616.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].text |
美國硬賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].start |
22616.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].end |
22617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].text |
我們可以有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].start |
22617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].end |
22618.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].text |
都有錢買啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].start |
22618.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].end |
22619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].start |
22619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].end |
22620.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].text |
賴總統說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].start |
22622.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].end |
22624.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].text |
到2030年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].start |
22624.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].end |
22626.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].text |
國民會算戰機VP要5% |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].start |
22627.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].end |
22628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].start |
22628.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].end |
22629.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].text |
這裡面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].start |
22629.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].end |
22630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].text |
就大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].start |
22630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].end |
22631.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].text |
空間啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].start |
22631.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].end |
22632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].text |
這幾年從 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].start |
22632.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].end |
22634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].text |
2027到2030 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].start |
22634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].end |
22635.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].text |
大概就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].start |
22635.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].end |
22636.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].text |
五六千億了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].start |
22637.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].end |
22638.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].text |
五六千億的空間啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].start |
22639.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].end |
22640.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].text |
一千五百億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].start |
22640.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].end |
22641.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].text |
甚至於可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].start |
22641.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].end |
22642.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].text |
高達兩千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].start |
22642.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].end |
22643.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].text |
就看你是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].start |
22643.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].end |
22644.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].text |
什麼時候編啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].start |
22644.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].end |
22645.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].text |
所以這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].start |
22645.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].end |
22646.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].text |
根本不是問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].start |
22646.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].end |
22647.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].start |
22647.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].end |
22648.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].text |
他要逐年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].start |
22648.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].end |
22649.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].text |
否則賴總統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].start |
22650.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].end |
22651.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].text |
只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].start |
22651.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].end |
22652.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].text |
就跳票喔 |
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22653.06 |
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22655.06 |
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他說要打機率VP給5% |
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22655.7 |
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22656.7 |
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他要打機率 |
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22656.7 |
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22657.7 |
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拜託你講 |
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22657.7 |
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22658.7 |
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我都沒跟你吵 |
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22658.7 |
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22659.7 |
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我說你吵我的 |
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22660.89 |
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22661.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵 |
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22661.89 |
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22662.89 |
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說你吵我的 |
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22662.89 |
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22663.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22663.89 |
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22664.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22664.89 |
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22665.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22665.89 |
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22666.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22666.89 |
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22667.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22667.89 |
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22668.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22668.89 |
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22669.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22669.89 |
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22670.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22670.89 |
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22671.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22671.89 |
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22672.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22672.89 |
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22673.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22673.89 |
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22674.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22674.89 |
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22675.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22675.89 |
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22676.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22676.89 |
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22677.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22677.89 |
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22678.89 |
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我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22678.89 |
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22679.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22679.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].end |
22680.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22680.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].end |
22681.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22681.89 |
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22682.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22682.89 |
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22683.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22683.89 |
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22684.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22684.89 |
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22685.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].text |
我都沒跟你吵我的 |
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22662.54 |
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22664.54 |
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這個賴總統說5% |
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22664.54 |
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22665.54 |
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那5%怎麼來的 |
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22665.54 |
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22666.54 |
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告訴我們呢 |
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22666.54 |
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22668.54 |
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國務院說就是要每年增加 |
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22668.54 |
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22670.54 |
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每年增加1、2千億 |
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22670.54 |
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22671.54 |
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要增加啊 |
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22671.54 |
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22673.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].text |
增加來跟你買愛國者 |
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22673.54 |
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22674.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].text |
為什麼沒錢 |
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22674.54 |
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22675.54 |
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當然你有錢啊 |
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22675.54 |
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22676.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].text |
所以 |
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22678.82 |
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22679.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].text |
所有的 |
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22679.82 |
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22680.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].text |
因為這個案子 |
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22680.82 |
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22682.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].text |
其實我的案子 |
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22682.82 |
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22683.82 |
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跟你們是 |
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22683.82 |
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22684.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].text |
要集同要講的 |
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22684.82 |
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22685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].text |
但不管怎麼樣 |
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22685.82 |
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22686.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].text |
也是有點關係 |
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22686.82 |
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22687.82 |
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也不是 |
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22687.82 |
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22688.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].text |
也不是 |
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22688.82 |
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22689.82 |
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完全沒有關係 |
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22690.86 |
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22692.86 |
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就是你的2千1百億 |
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22692.86 |
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22694.86 |
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你真的要買這三大項 |
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22694.86 |
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22696.86 |
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那就放民主運算 |
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22696.86 |
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22697.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].text |
這樣怕說 |
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22697.86 |
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22699.86 |
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這樣你還不買帳 |
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22699.86 |
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22700.86 |
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不買帳就 |
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22700.86 |
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22701.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].text |
老實講 |
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22702.76 |
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22703.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].text |
要是可以處理 |
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22703.76 |
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22704.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].text |
不是不能處理啦 |
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22704.76 |
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22705.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].text |
你就寫個 |
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22706.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].end |
22708.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].text |
大家有共識主決議 |
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22708.61 |
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22710.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].text |
為了什麼什麼什麼原因 |
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22710.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].end |
22711.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].text |
我們就 |
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22711.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].end |
22712.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].text |
來 |
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22712.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].end |
22713.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].text |
我們就 |
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22713.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].end |
22714.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].text |
見請 |
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22714.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].end |
22715.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].text |
這個有共 |
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22715.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].end |
22716.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].text |
什麼什麼 |
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22716.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].end |
22717.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].text |
2千4百億 |
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22717.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].end |
22718.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].text |
或者多少 |
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22719.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].end |
22720.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].text |
跟你寫上去 |
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22720.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].end |
22721.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].text |
三黨統統 |
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22721.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].end |
22723.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].text |
這個公示表決通過 |
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22723.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].end |
22724.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].text |
就一樣 |
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22724.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].end |
22726.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].text |
為什麼一定要年度預算 |
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22726.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].end |
22727.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].text |
我告訴你 |
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22727.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].end |
22728.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].text |
理由一 |
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22728.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].end |
22731.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].text |
因為國防預算是主念增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].start |
22733.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].end |
22734.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].text |
啦 |
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22734.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].end |
22735.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].text |
特別預算 |
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22735.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].end |
22736.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].text |
不應該常態化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].start |
22737.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].end |
22738.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].text |
特別預算 |
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22738.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].end |
22739.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].text |
你可以想啊 |
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22739.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].end |
22740.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].text |
包括前一陣子的潤性 |
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22740.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].end |
22741.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].text |
什麼的 |
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22741.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].end |
22742.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].text |
動不動就特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].start |
22742.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].end |
22743.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].text |
動不動就特別預算 |
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22743.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].end |
22744.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].text |
而且 |
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22744.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].end |
22745.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].text |
任何的特別預算 |
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22745.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].end |
22746.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].text |
幾乎國防部都有 |
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22746.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].end |
22747.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].text |
有跟他講 |
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22747.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].end |
22748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].text |
前一陣子的潤性 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].start |
22748.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].end |
22749.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].text |
拿了1千1百億啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].start |
22749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].end |
22750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].text |
任何時候 |
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22750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].end |
22751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].text |
國防部就要請啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].start |
22752.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].end |
22753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].text |
所以我是覺得 |
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22753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].end |
22754.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].text |
特別預算 |
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22754.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].end |
22756.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].text |
不要給他常態化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].start |
22756.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].end |
22757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].text |
這是第 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].start |
22757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].end |
22759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].text |
二點我要強調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].start |
22759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].end |
22760.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].text |
那麼 |
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22760.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].end |
22761.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].text |
有最後一點就是 |
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22761.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].end |
22762.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].text |
其實 |
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22762.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].end |
22764.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].text |
第五條就是重中之重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].start |
22764.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].end |
22765.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].start |
22765.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].end |
22766.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].text |
我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].start |
22767.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].end |
22768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].text |
我的版本就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].start |
22768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].end |
22770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].text |
可以給我技術輿準 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].start |
22770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].end |
22771.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].text |
不管跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].start |
22771.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].end |
22772.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].text |
或者不是美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].start |
22772.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].end |
22773.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].text |
跟哪一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].start |
22773.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].end |
22774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].text |
無人機搶我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].start |
22774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].end |
22775.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].text |
我跟他買 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].start |
22775.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].end |
22776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].text |
他還能給我技術輿準 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].start |
22776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].end |
22777.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].text |
給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].start |
22777.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].end |
22778.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].text |
我是 |
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22778.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].end |
22779.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].text |
OmeF |
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22779.67 |
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22780.67 |
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只有針對這個而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].start |
22781.85 |
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22782.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].text |
那另外一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].start |
22782.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].end |
22783.85 |
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你要買 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].start |
22783.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].end |
22784.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].text |
無人機 |
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22784.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].end |
22785.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].text |
兩種的無人機 |
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22785.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].end |
22786.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].text |
跟一個無人艇 |
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22786.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].end |
22787.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].text |
我們通通支持 |
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22787.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].end |
22788.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].text |
通通支持 |
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22788.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].end |
22789.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].text |
但是通常都預算 |
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22791.02 |
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22793.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].text |
你就筆照經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].start |
22793.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].end |
22794.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].text |
再寫個一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].start |
22794.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].end |
22797.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].text |
無人載具產業發展統籌型計畫 |
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22797.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].end |
22798.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].text |
你可以拿一個 |
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22798.02 |
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22801.02 |
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無人載具採購統籌型計畫就好了 |
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22801.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].end |
22802.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].text |
下期你 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].start |
22802.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].end |
22803.02 |
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5年還是幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].start |
22803.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].end |
22805.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].text |
你做些什麼計畫 |
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22805.02 |
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22806.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].text |
別忘了政府大筆預算 |
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22806.02 |
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22808.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].text |
基本上都有計畫的 |
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22808.02 |
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22809.02 |
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即便有的經過立法院 |
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22809.02 |
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22810.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].text |
有的不經過立法院 |
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22810.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].end |
22811.02 |
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都會有一個計畫 |
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22811.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].end |
22812.02 |
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不是沒有啦 |
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22812.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].end |
22813.02 |
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所以在這裡 |
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22813.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].end |
22814.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].text |
也是 |
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22814.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].end |
22815.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].text |
立法院 |
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22815.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].end |
22816.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].text |
也是可以幫忙 |
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22816.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].end |
22817.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].text |
不是不能幫忙 |
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22817.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].end |
22818.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].text |
我再強調一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].start |
22818.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].end |
22819.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].text |
我個人認為 |
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22819.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].end |
22822.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].text |
國安部要買的這三大內心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].start |
22822.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].end |
22824.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].text |
立法院沒有人反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].start |
22824.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].end |
22825.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].text |
立法院沒有人反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].start |
22825.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].end |
22827.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].text |
現在只有再一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].start |
22827.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].end |
22828.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].text |
你要放特別預算 |
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22828.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].end |
22830.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].text |
我們其實有不可 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].start |
22830.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].end |
22832.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].text |
我們希望放一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].start |
22834.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].end |
22835.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].text |
主席 |
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22835.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].end |
22836.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].text |
我的預算我已經講了 |
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22836.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].end |
22837.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].text |
N次了 |
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22837.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].end |
22838.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].text |
不要再再鬧了 |
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22838.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].end |
22840.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].text |
我的預算就是要採購 |
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22840.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].end |
22842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].text |
採購來技術升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].start |
22842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].end |
22844.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].text |
你的第六條是特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].start |
22844.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].end |
22845.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].text |
500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].start |
22845.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].end |
22847.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].text |
500億是特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].start |
22847.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].end |
22848.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].text |
對對對我知道 |
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22848.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].end |
22849.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].text |
我已經強調N變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].start |
22849.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].end |
22851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].text |
買來要技術預算 |
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22851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].end |
22852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].text |
你們同意我 |
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22852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].end |
22854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].text |
所以你是用特別預算買來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].start |
22854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].end |
22855.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].text |
買來要技術預算 |
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22855.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].end |
22857.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].text |
對對對技術升級 |
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22857.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].end |
22859.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].text |
買來技術預算就可以用特別預算 |
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22859.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].end |
22861.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].text |
買來國防保衛台灣 |
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22861.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].end |
22862.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].text |
就不能用特別預算 |
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22862.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].end |
22864.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].text |
買來國防保衛台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].start |
22865.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].end |
22866.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].text |
你的邏輯不通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].start |
22866.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].end |
22868.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].text |
我不是部長你真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].start |
22868.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].end |
22869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].text |
你的條文就不是這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].start |
22869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].end |
22870.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].text |
你的條文不是寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].start |
22870.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].end |
22872.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].text |
買來做技術預轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].start |
22872.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].end |
22876.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].text |
你是買來還不受預算法限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].start |
22876.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].end |
22877.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].text |
請你看清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].start |
22877.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].end |
22879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].text |
你的條文根本就不是這樣寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].start |
22879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].end |
22880.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].text |
不是啦你講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].start |
22880.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].end |
22881.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].text |
你一定要扯我的就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].start |
22881.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].end |
22884.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].text |
請你看一下第四頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].start |
22884.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].end |
22887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].text |
第四頁我的裡面就有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].start |
22887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].end |
22890.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].text |
前項採購應付加技術預轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].start |
22890.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].end |
22891.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].text |
及工業合作條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].start |
22891.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].end |
22893.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].text |
請看清楚我的第四頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].start |
22894.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].end |
22896.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].text |
你的條文就不是採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].start |
22896.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].end |
22897.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].start |
22897.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].end |
22899.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].text |
我們請一下這個羅叔兵尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].start |
22901.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].end |
22903.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].start |
22903.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].end |
22906.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].text |
剛才中嘉賓委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].start |
22906.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].end |
22908.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].text |
MQ9B的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].start |
22908.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].end |
22910.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].text |
在有的廠商台灣廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].start |
22910.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].end |
22911.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].text |
他自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].start |
22911.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].end |
22912.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].text |
我沒有這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].start |
22912.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].end |
22914.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].text |
我說無人載去台灣能生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].start |
22914.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].end |
22915.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].text |
我沒有說MQ9B台灣能生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].start |
22915.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].end |
22916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].text |
這差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].start |
22916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].end |
22918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].text |
但是你看說有一個 |
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22918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].end |
22919.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].text |
有一個 |
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22919.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].end |
22921.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].text |
而且它是烏克蘭的長程噴射轟炸機 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].start |
22921.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].end |
22924.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].text |
然後這個長程噴射轟炸機是被 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].start |
22924.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].end |
22925.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].text |
是用到有個機械 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].start |
22925.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].end |
22926.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].text |
是用到我們台灣的對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].start |
22928.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].end |
22930.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].text |
對小型渦輪噴射引擎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].start |
22930.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].end |
22931.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].text |
但是用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].start |
22931.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].end |
22932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].text |
那沒關係很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].start |
22932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].end |
22933.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].start |
22933.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].end |
22934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].text |
那他但是因為是用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].start |
22934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].end |
22936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].text |
我們台灣廠商的技術對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].start |
22937.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].end |
22938.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].text |
大家晚安 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].start |
22939.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].end |
22940.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].text |
對啊那非常好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].start |
22940.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].end |
22942.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].text |
我就就是要呼應這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].start |
22942.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].end |
22944.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].text |
因為這個廠商他並 |
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22944.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].end |
22946.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].text |
你看特別講到他並不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].start |
22946.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].end |
22947.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].text |
因為有政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].start |
22947.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].end |
22948.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].text |
或是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].start |
22948.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].end |
22949.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].text |
政府的資助 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].start |
22949.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].end |
22951.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].text |
是他自己本身自主的研發出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].start |
22951.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].end |
22952.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].text |
就讓你他的市場性 |
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22952.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].end |
22954.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].text |
就是有這樣的市場性 |
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22954.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].end |
22956.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].text |
所以人家看到的需求 |
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22956.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].end |
22957.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].text |
而且這個我剛才看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].start |
22957.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].end |
22959.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].text |
這個需求在於是長程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].start |
22959.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].end |
22960.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].text |
對不對 |
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22960.18 |
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22961.18 |
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那這個長程部分 |
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22961.18 |
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22962.18 |
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就在於說 |
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22962.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].end |
22963.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].text |
對那現在問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].start |
22963.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].end |
22964.2 |
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我們如果用到假定 |
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22964.2 |
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22968.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].text |
他自己是看他是全世界市場的需求 |
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22968.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].end |
22969.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].text |
那台灣如果是生產這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].start |
22969.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].end |
22971.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].text |
他根本就沒有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].start |
22971.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].end |
22972.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].text |
沒有一千到兩千公里 |
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22972.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].end |
22975.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].text |
他打到大陸去嗎 |
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22975.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].end |
22977.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].text |
所以這個地方所呈現出來 |
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22977.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].end |
22979.2 |
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你這個問的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].start |
22979.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].end |
22981.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].text |
莫斯科就是忽然就打到莫斯科 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].start |
22981.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].end |
22982.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].text |
我跟你們講 |
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22982.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].end |
22983.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].text |
我說的一樣講是說 |
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22983.2 |
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22985.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].text |
市場的出 |
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22985.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].end |
22986.2 |
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我們重點是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].start |
22986.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].end |
22987.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].text |
我們是國防自主 |
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22987.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].end |
22989.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].text |
然後還有所謂出口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].start |
22989.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].end |
22990.2 |
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這樣的一個需求 |
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22990.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].end |
22992.2 |
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那但是現在我們最重要的是 |
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22992.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].end |
22993.2 |
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要用這種 |
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22994.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].end |
22996.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].text |
能夠遏阻中共來侵犯我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].start |
22996.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].end |
22998.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].text |
而不是說你還在打回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].start |
22998.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].end |
22999.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].text |
打回去也許是 |
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22999.26 |
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23000.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].text |
可能可能 |
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23000.26 |
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23001.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].text |
這個是現在我們就才不阻 |
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23001.26 |
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23003.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].text |
這一定是先自己能夠防衛到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].start |
23003.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].end |
23004.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].text |
他們才可能打回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].start |
23004.26 |
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23005.26 |
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重點我要說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].start |
23005.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].end |
23008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].text |
因為我們的廠商就有這種能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].start |
23008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].end |
23010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].text |
他的出口需求是全世界的 |
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23010.26 |
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23011.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].text |
而且沒有經過國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].start |
23011.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].end |
23012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].text |
我們政府的這個支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].start |
23012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].end |
23013.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].text |
他就有這樣的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].start |
23013.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].end |
23014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].text |
這才是我們要說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].start |
23015.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].end |
23017.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].text |
自主的國防自主的產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].start |
23017.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].end |
23018.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].text |
最重要的達到目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].start |
23018.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].end |
23019.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].text |
因此 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].start |
23019.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].end |
23020.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].text |
博恩大本黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].start |
23020.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].end |
23021.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].text |
已經看到這個狀況了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].start |
23021.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].end |
23023.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].text |
所以我們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].start |
23023.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].end |
23024.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].text |
我們的提供出來就是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].start |
23024.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].end |
23026.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].text |
本身的自己的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].start |
23026.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].end |
23027.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].text |
可以達到就可以 |
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23027.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].end |
23029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].text |
就是你要有市場驅動力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].start |
23029.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].end |
23031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].text |
而不是要用預算去做 |
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23031.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].end |
23032.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].text |
做這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].start |
23032.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].end |
23034.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].text |
而不是用國家政府去預算去做這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].start |
23034.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].end |
23035.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].text |
那我們剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].start |
23035.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].end |
23036.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].text |
但是保衛部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].start |
23036.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].end |
23038.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].text |
我們本黨的利益是在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].start |
23038.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].end |
23039.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].text |
GDP本身就是已經要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].start |
23039.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].end |
23041.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].text |
我們呼應到說 |
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23041.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].end |
23042.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].text |
各國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].start |
23042.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].end |
23044.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].text |
各國對或是美國對我們需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].start |
23044.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].end |
23045.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].text |
美國的要求是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].start |
23045.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].end |
23047.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].text |
我們GDP要逐漸從3%變到5% |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].start |
23050.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].end |
23051.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].text |
這部分 |
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23051.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].end |
23052.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].text |
有這個必要的話 |
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23052.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].end |
23053.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].text |
當然會有懸石的 |
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23053.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].end |
23054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].text |
有必要的當然要去到 |
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23054.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].end |
23055.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].text |
但是現在重點是 |
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23055.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].end |
23056.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].text |
3%都還沒有到嘛 |
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23056.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].end |
23057.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].text |
對不對 |
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23057.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].end |
23058.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].text |
那3%這個情況重點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].start |
23058.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].end |
23059.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].text |
而且預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].start |
23059.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].end |
23061.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].text |
不要特別預算常態化 |
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23061.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].end |
23062.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].text |
這是我們最重要的 |
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23062.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].end |
23064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].text |
立法委員最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].start |
23064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].end |
23066.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].text |
維持我們財政紀律的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].start |
23066.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].end |
23067.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].text |
因此在這邊看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].start |
23067.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].end |
23068.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].text |
尤其是我們最近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].start |
23068.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].end |
23070.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].text |
因為AI的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].start |
23070.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].end |
23071.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].text |
我們的稅收有在增加嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].start |
23071.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].end |
23073.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].text |
這今年至少要增加一兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].start |
23074.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].end |
23075.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].text |
這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].start |
23076.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].end |
23077.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].text |
現在的財政收支這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].start |
23077.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].end |
23078.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].text |
的確是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].start |
23078.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].end |
23079.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].text |
不像說我們國際間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].start |
23079.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].end |
23080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].text |
對我們需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].start |
23080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].end |
23081.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].text |
我們絕對是有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].start |
23081.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].end |
23082.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].text |
會有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].start |
23082.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].end |
23083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].text |
會在國防預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].start |
23083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].end |
23084.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].text |
有這樣大幅的增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].start |
23084.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].end |
23086.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].text |
那這就是我們本黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].start |
23086.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].end |
23087.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].text |
用這樣的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].start |
23087.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].end |
23088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].text |
用所謂的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].start |
23088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].end |
23090.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].text |
用不提特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].start |
23090.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].end |
23092.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].text |
而是用一般的年度預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].start |
23092.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].end |
23093.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].text |
最重要的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].start |
23099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].end |
23100.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].start |
23100.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].end |
23102.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].text |
我想這一 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].start |
23107.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].end |
23109.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].text |
你講太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].start |
23109.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].end |
23110.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].text |
法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].start |
23110.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].end |
23111.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].start |
23111.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].end |
23114.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].text |
來你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].start |
23116.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].end |
23117.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].start |
23118.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].end |
23119.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].text |
這就說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].start |
23120.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].end |
23121.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].text |
剛剛賴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].start |
23122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].end |
23123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].text |
在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].start |
23123.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].end |
23124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].text |
我們的條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].start |
23124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].end |
23126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].text |
輪對照表第十頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].start |
23126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].end |
23128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].text |
的確目前審到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].start |
23128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].end |
23130.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].text |
行政院版第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].start |
23130.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].end |
23131.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].text |
對應到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].start |
23131.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].end |
23134.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].text |
賴氏寶版A版的第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].start |
23134.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].end |
23136.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].text |
那麼國民黨版呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].start |
23136.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].end |
23137.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].text |
他是放在第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].start |
23137.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].end |
23138.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].text |
這第十五條呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].start |
23138.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].end |
23139.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].text |
因為他寫是年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].start |
23139.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].end |
23141.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].text |
這就根本不用去討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].start |
23141.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].end |
23143.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].text |
因為十四個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].start |
23143.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].end |
23145.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].text |
扣掉沒有編預算的兩個版本 |
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包括劉淑冰委員講的 |
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民眾黨團之外 |
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另外十二個有編制預算的 |
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有十一個 |
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第一個 |
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都是主張用特別預算 |
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包括賴氏寶委員的A版 |
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那所以我們就不討論 |
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不用討論國民黨的年度預算 |
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那個根本沒有必要 |
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因為如果要用年度預算 |
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其實現在國防部 |
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實際上在執行的 |
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就是用年度預算執行的 |
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也是只是講項目 |
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送來由立法院進行預算審查 |
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並沒有需要用一個條例 |
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來交給我們審查 |
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其次 |
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就算是特別條例 |
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給予特別預算 |
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一定金額 |
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不管是兩千一百億 |
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兩千四百億 |
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最後根據條例的內容 |
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送來的預算書 |
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還是要經過立法院的審查 |
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所以我們政委員 |
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也是資深委員 |
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特別條例通過後 |
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訂的是預算上限 |
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行政院要籌編預算 |
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將預算案送到本院 |
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才能進行審議 |
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本院當然可以審議 |
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可以增三 |
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不可以三可以動 |
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但是就是不一定要照原數通過 |
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我想這很清楚 |
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不要這邊魚目混珠 |
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那麼至於賴委員A板的第六條 |
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為什麼要說 |
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23215.3 |
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他說他不只是金額變少 |
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他的限制 |
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23219.3 |
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他的限制要看哪裡 |
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23219.3 |
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23220.3 |
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他除了第二項 |
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23220.3 |
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23222.3 |
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他說前項經費 |
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23224.3 |
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應一第五條第四項提撥 |
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不低於百分之十 |
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23226.3 |
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23229.3 |
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專攻技術轉移轉接收 |
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23230.34 |
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23235.34 |
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及產業化及維修能量建立之用 |
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23235.62 |
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23237.62 |
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給的錢已經夠少了 |
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23237.87 |
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23239.87 |
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國防部行政院說要兩千一百億 |
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23240.87 |
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他說我給你五百億就好 |
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23242.87 |
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爸爸我要買個電腦要三萬 |
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23244.87 |
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不用啦一萬塊就好了啦 |
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23246.87 |
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而且還要加什麼限制 |
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23248.87 |
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還要加說你不要買整季的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].start |
23248.87 |
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23250.87 |
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你要自己買零件來組裝喔 |
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23250.87 |
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我們來看一看 |
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23253.87 |
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我們的條文對照表第56頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].start |
23254.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].end |
23257.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].text |
我們來看看賴世保委員A板的第五條 |
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23257.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].end |
23258.71 |
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他怎麼寫 |
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23258.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].end |
23259.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].text |
他一共四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].start |
23260.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].end |
23262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].text |
他第一項喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].start |
23263.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].end |
23266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].text |
他說他對於本條例的採購 |
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23266.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].end |
23269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].text |
在五百億上限五百億的採購當中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].start |
23269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].end |
23272.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].text |
他所訂定的技術移轉及跟業合作條款 |
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23272.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].end |
23274.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].text |
他的工業合作價值不得低於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].start |
23274.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].end |
23277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].text |
各採購契約金額的百分之四十 |
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23278.13 |
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23280.13 |
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這不是要讓國防部放手去採購啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].start |
23280.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].end |
23282.13 |
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這是給國防部穿小鞋啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].start |
23282.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].end |
23284.13 |
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你如果要確認你每一項採購 |
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23284.13 |
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23287.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].text |
都能達到這個採購金額的百分之四十 |
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23287.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].end |
23289.13 |
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你看看他的第二項 |
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23289.13 |
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23290.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].text |
他這裡面寫的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].start |
23290.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].end |
23291.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].text |
前項技術移轉及工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].start |
23291.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].end |
23294.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].text |
要建立下列能量為目標 |
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23294.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].end |
23295.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].text |
我們看到有三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].start |
23295.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].end |
23297.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].text |
這裡面的第三款呢 |
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23297.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].end |
23299.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].text |
寫的供應鏈非紅化很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].start |
23300.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].end |
23303.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].text |
連奈斯堡A本都要寫非紅供應鏈啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].start |
23303.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].end |
23305.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].text |
民眾黨的黨團還不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].start |
23305.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].end |
23306.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].text |
明明白白的承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].start |
23306.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].end |
23308.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].text |
還要拐彎抹角說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].start |
23308.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].end |
23309.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].text |
要怎樣怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].start |
23309.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].end |
23310.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].text |
要有什麼安全認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].start |
23310.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].end |
23311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].text |
就是非紅供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].start |
23311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].end |
23313.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].text |
非紅供應鏈奈斯堡A本都寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].start |
23313.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].end |
23315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].text |
供應鏈非紅化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].start |
23315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].end |
23316.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].text |
這個我們都覺得很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].start |
23316.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].end |
23318.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].text |
排除含有惡意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].start |
23318.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].end |
23319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].text |
後門過惡意的模擬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].start |
23319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].end |
23321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].text |
但是呢他的第一款跟第二款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].start |
23321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].end |
23322.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].text |
他說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].start |
23322.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].end |
23324.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].text |
這些關鍵的次系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].start |
23324.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].end |
23326.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].text |
的產製及自主維修 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].start |
23326.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].end |
23327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].text |
包括光電 |
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23327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].end |
23328.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].text |
雷達感測 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].start |
23328.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].end |
23329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].text |
衛星與自動鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].start |
23329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].end |
23330.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].text |
飛行控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].start |
23330.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].end |
23331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].text |
飛控 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].start |
23331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].end |
23332.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].text |
自主導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].start |
23332.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].end |
23333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].text |
人工智慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].start |
23333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].end |
23334.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].text |
目標研判 |
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23334.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].end |
23335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].text |
抗干擾 |
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23335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].end |
23336.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].text |
抗衛星定位 |
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23336.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].end |
23337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].text |
欺騙模組 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].start |
23337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].end |
23338.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].text |
很好啊 |
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23338.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].end |
23339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].text |
把現在無人宰具所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].start |
23339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].end |
23341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].text |
這些基本功夫都放進去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].start |
23341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].end |
23342.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].text |
老實說不放 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].start |
23342.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].end |
23344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].text |
我想國防部也不會去買 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].start |
23344.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].end |
23345.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].text |
不具備這些內容的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].start |
23346.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].end |
23347.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].text |
無人宰具啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].start |
23347.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].end |
23348.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].text |
問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].start |
23348.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].end |
23350.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].text |
這些是不是在短時間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].start |
23350.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].end |
23352.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].text |
台灣都具備有這三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].start |
23352.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].end |
23354.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].text |
的自主能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].start |
23354.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].end |
23357.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].text |
我們講到國防自主生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].start |
23357.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].end |
23359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].text |
不意味著全部的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].start |
23359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].end |
23361.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].text |
都是由我們自行開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].start |
23361.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].end |
23362.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].text |
這個連美國都做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].start |
23363.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].end |
23364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].text |
他要去跟人家買專利 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].start |
23364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].end |
23365.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].text |
買授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].start |
23365.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].end |
23366.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].text |
甚至有些零件 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].start |
23366.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].end |
23367.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].text |
要能夠對方供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].start |
23367.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].end |
23369.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].text |
但是只要是飛虹供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].start |
23370.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].end |
23372.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].text |
我們有辦法獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].start |
23372.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].end |
23374.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].text |
那就不妨礙我們自主生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].start |
23374.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].end |
23375.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].text |
這樣的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].start |
23375.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].end |
23377.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].text |
所以這裡寫得這麼嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].start |
23377.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].end |
23378.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].text |
他講的這三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].start |
23378.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].end |
23379.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].text |
這三款呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].start |
23379.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].end |
23380.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].text |
要在國內這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].start |
23380.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].end |
23383.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].text |
共同生產組裝跟整合測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].start |
23383.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].end |
23385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].text |
還有後勤維修能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].start |
23385.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].end |
23386.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].text |
講得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].start |
23387.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].end |
23388.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].text |
但是實務上呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].start |
23388.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].end |
23390.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].text |
我們看看最後一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].start |
23390.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].end |
23391.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].text |
他的第四項寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].start |
23391.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].end |
23393.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].text |
本條例所需經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].start |
23393.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].end |
23395.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].text |
還要提撥不低於10% |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].start |
23395.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].end |
23397.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].text |
專攻前三項技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].start |
23397.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].end |
23399.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].text |
移轉接收產業化及 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].start |
23399.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].end |
23401.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].text |
維修能量建立資用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].start |
23402.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].end |
23403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].text |
我要是跟我老爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].start |
23403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].end |
23404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].text |
念大的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].start |
23404.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].end |
23406.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].text |
跟我老爸要個買電腦4萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].start |
23406.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].end |
23407.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].text |
他給我下這麼多條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].start |
23407.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].end |
23408.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].text |
我看電腦就甭買啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].start |
23409.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].end |
23410.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].text |
這個是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].start |
23410.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].end |
23411.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].text |
也給我們就教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].start |
23411.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].end |
23413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].text |
法務部的參事 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].start |
23413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].end |
23415.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].text |
他這個應該條文上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].start |
23415.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].end |
23417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].text |
就算未來真的要送審 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].start |
23417.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].end |
23419.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].text |
沒有所謂的前三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].start |
23421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].end |
23422.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].text |
這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].start |
23422.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].end |
23424.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].text |
只有第一項第二項第三項跟第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].start |
23424.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].end |
23426.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].text |
第四項可以寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].start |
23426.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].end |
23428.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].text |
第二項之三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].start |
23429.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].end |
23431.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].text |
你要寫就寫第二項之三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].start |
23431.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].end |
23432.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].text |
或寫第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].start |
23432.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].end |
23433.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].text |
的這些技術移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].start |
23433.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].end |
23434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].text |
哪來的前三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].start |
23434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].end |
23435.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].text |
我就在那邊對半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].start |
23435.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].end |
23436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].text |
前三項是哪 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].start |
23436.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].end |
23437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].text |
前三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].start |
23437.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].end |
23438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].text |
前面那三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].start |
23438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].end |
23439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].text |
通通都是你這個第四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].start |
23439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].end |
23440.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].text |
要涵蓋的範圍嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].start |
23442.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].end |
23445.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].text |
所以我還是要建議在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].start |
23445.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].end |
23446.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].text |
如果真的有心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].start |
23447.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].end |
23449.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].text |
要建立我們國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].start |
23449.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].end |
23450.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].text |
防衛台海安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].start |
23451.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].end |
23454.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].text |
你們也希望產業能夠在過程當中獲益 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].start |
23454.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].end |
23457.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].text |
強化我們自主生產的量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].start |
23457.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].end |
23459.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].text |
也能夠在過程當中刺激 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].start |
23459.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].end |
23460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].text |
我們台灣的技術研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].start |
23460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].end |
23462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].text |
取得更多的自主研發能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].start |
23462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].end |
23463.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].text |
這都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].start |
23463.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].end |
23465.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].text |
但是這樣條文的寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].start |
23465.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].end |
23467.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].text |
根本就是適得其反 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].start |
23467.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].end |
23468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].text |
讓人家覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].start |
23468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].end |
23470.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].text |
這哪裡是要來幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].start |
23470.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].end |
23471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].text |
這是來找麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].start |
23471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].end |
23472.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].text |
再強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].start |
23472.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].end |
23473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].text |
這種條文寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].start |
23473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].end |
23475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].text |
哪裡是來幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].start |
23475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].end |
23476.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].text |
這是在找麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].start |
23483.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].end |
23484.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].start |
23485.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].end |
23486.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].text |
我公平了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].start |
23487.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].end |
23488.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].text |
這個早上這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].start |
23488.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].end |
23489.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].text |
把黑人說成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].start |
23489.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].end |
23490.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].text |
受寵若驚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].start |
23490.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].end |
23492.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].text |
某人會被人家接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].start |
23492.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].end |
23494.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].text |
說沒有那是把版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].start |
23494.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].end |
23495.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].text |
那是把版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].start |
23495.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].end |
23497.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].text |
這樣會把他 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].start |
23497.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].end |
23500.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].text |
左屁右打 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].start |
23500.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].end |
23501.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].text |
這個叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].start |
23501.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].end |
23503.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].text |
到底叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].start |
23503.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].end |
23504.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].text |
民捧暗殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].start |
23504.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].end |
23506.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].text |
實際上就是殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].start |
23506.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].end |
23507.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].text |
這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].start |
23507.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].end |
23508.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].text |
也不要把本質想 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].start |
23508.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].end |
23510.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].text |
自己都給打 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].start |
23510.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].end |
23511.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].text |
把版本推出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].start |
23511.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].end |
23512.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].text |
就是進得去考驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].start |
23512.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].end |
23513.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].text |
就是進得去考驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].start |
23515.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].end |
23516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].text |
我們一直主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].start |
23516.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].end |
23518.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].text |
國務部要多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].start |
23518.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].end |
23519.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].text |
你竟然還理了這生肖 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].start |
23519.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].end |
23520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].text |
我說你應該買 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].start |
23521.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].end |
23522.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].text |
就是一般預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].start |
23523.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].end |
23524.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].text |
那我提了500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].start |
23524.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].end |
23525.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].text |
就是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].start |
23525.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].end |
23526.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].text |
我要upgrade |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].start |
23526.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].end |
23528.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].text |
我要技術能夠升更的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].start |
23528.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].end |
23529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].text |
offset |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].start |
23529.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].end |
23530.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].text |
以及有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].start |
23530.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].end |
23531.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].text |
有這個鋪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].start |
23531.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].end |
23532.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].text |
但是offset |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].start |
23532.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].end |
23533.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].text |
等一下何車長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].start |
23533.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].end |
23534.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].text |
如果講不對你可以補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].start |
23535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].end |
23536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].text |
中路不怎麼樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].start |
23536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].end |
23537.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].text |
滴滴答答 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].start |
23537.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].end |
23539.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].text |
我們跟美國買了多了武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].start |
23539.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].end |
23541.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].text |
請問offset是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].start |
23543.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].end |
23544.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].text |
這都一大無主啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].start |
23545.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].end |
23547.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].text |
根本都不敢跟你跟美國要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].start |
23548.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].end |
23550.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].text |
第一個40%offset就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].start |
23550.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].end |
23551.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].text |
我跟你買100塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].start |
23551.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].end |
23553.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].text |
你要給我40塊的並單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].start |
23555.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].end |
23557.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].text |
買700億美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].start |
23557.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].end |
23558.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].text |
向美國買700億美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].start |
23559.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].end |
23560.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].text |
他有沒有給我們40%的並單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].start |
23560.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].end |
23561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].start |
23562.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].end |
23563.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].text |
當然沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].start |
23563.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].end |
23564.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].text |
怎麼會有呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].start |
23567.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].end |
23569.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].text |
我怎麼查就沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].start |
23569.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].end |
23571.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].text |
這個東西就是我們要落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].start |
23571.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].end |
23572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].text |
技術的升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].start |
23572.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].end |
23573.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].text |
我們跟美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].start |
23573.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].end |
23575.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].text |
一直買一直買一直買 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].start |
23575.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].end |
23576.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].text |
難道你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].start |
23576.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].end |
23577.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].text |
我當然我贊助我贊助 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].start |
23577.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].end |
23578.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].text |
我不服認 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].start |
23578.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].end |
23579.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].text |
台灣的晶片非常棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].start |
23579.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].end |
23581.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].text |
台灣的資訊工業非常棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].start |
23582.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].end |
23583.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].text |
台灣的晶片非常棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].start |
23583.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].end |
23584.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].text |
我們是工業王國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].start |
23585.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].end |
23586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].start |
23586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].end |
23588.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].text |
在軍工行業這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].start |
23590.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].end |
23592.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].text |
我們就買而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].start |
23592.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].end |
23593.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].text |
技術沒有生根啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].start |
23594.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].end |
23596.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].text |
美國跟我們反過來買嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].start |
23596.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].end |
23598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].text |
我們跟他買100億美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].start |
23598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].end |
23600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].text |
他要跟我們買40億美金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].start |
23600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].end |
23603.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].text |
其他的一些相關的零主件嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].start |
23603.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].end |
23604.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].text |
答案是沒有的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].start |
23604.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].end |
23605.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].text |
就是做的不好嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].start |
23605.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].end |
23607.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].text |
所以我的500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].start |
23607.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].end |
23609.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].text |
就是針對我買了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].start |
23611.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].end |
23613.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].text |
不管是美國或是其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].start |
23613.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].end |
23615.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].text |
你要跟我買相對應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].start |
23615.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].end |
23618.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].text |
買40%以上的交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].start |
23618.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].end |
23620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].text |
這個不是什麼挖坑啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].start |
23620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].end |
23621.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].text |
這個已經有這樣做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].start |
23621.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].end |
23623.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].text |
過去就這樣規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].start |
23623.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].end |
23625.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].text |
只是一直沒有落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].start |
23625.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].end |
23627.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].text |
黃志祺這個拜託當立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].start |
23627.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].end |
23629.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].text |
這個這個中委員你都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].start |
23629.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].end |
23630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].text |
老鳥不是菜鳥 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].start |
23630.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].end |
23631.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].text |
要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].start |
23631.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].end |
23634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].text |
那邊各部經濟部就有訂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].start |
23634.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].end |
23636.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].text |
只是沒有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].start |
23637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].end |
23638.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].text |
那不是我們失職嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].start |
23638.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].end |
23640.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].text |
我們沒有好好去監督啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].start |
23640.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].end |
23641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].text |
我們對外的武器採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].start |
23641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].end |
23642.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].text |
就應該跟他要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].start |
23642.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].end |
23644.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].text |
40%你要跟我買回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].start |
23645.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].end |
23647.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].text |
這個才是長久之道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].start |
23647.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].end |
23650.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].text |
才有辦法落實我們的金工產業嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].start |
23650.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].end |
23651.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].text |
阿婆就跟他講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].start |
23651.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].end |
23653.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].text |
我們也希望這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].start |
23653.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].end |
23654.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].text |
我們沒有失職 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].start |
23654.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].end |
23655.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].text |
我們國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].start |
23656.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].end |
23657.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].start |
23657.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].end |
23659.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].text |
國務部提出了那三大項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].start |
23660.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].end |
23663.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].text |
無人機兩種無人機一種無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].start |
23663.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].end |
23666.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].text |
這個錢能夠帶動台灣的金工產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].start |
23666.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].end |
23669.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].text |
能夠圖一門徑能夠上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].start |
23669.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].end |
23671.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].text |
否則的話我們就去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].start |
23671.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].end |
23673.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].text |
都跟台灣的金工產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].start |
23673.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].end |
23675.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].text |
真的去做整齊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].start |
23676.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].end |
23678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].text |
沒有幾個啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].start |
23678.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].end |
23680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].text |
所以我們第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].start |
23680.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].end |
23682.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].text |
其實第五條比較講到這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].start |
23682.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].end |
23684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].text |
都不用講太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].start |
23684.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].end |
23685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].text |
就是要特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].start |
23685.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].end |
23686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].text |
或是不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].start |
23686.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].end |
23688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].text |
你拿蔡英棠堅持不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].start |
23688.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].end |
23690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].text |
但是錢一定給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].start |
23690.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].end |
23692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].text |
你們編 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].start |
23692.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].end |
23694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].text |
你們編我們就給 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].start |
23694.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].end |
23697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].text |
特別預算就破壞資訊嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].start |
23697.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].end |
23699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].text |
這個你們把違章建築 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].start |
23699.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].end |
23700.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].text |
當作一般建築 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].start |
23701.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].end |
23704.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].text |
不要特別預算常態化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].start |
23704.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].end |
23706.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].text |
這是我們強調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].start |
23706.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].end |
23707.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].text |
哪一次特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].start |
23708.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].end |
23710.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].text |
沒有國防部的因子幾乎都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].start |
23710.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].end |
23712.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].text |
權責的任性就哪一天一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].start |
23713.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].end |
23714.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].text |
什麼什麼什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].start |
23714.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].end |
23715.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].text |
特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].start |
23715.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].end |
23716.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].text |
國防部就吃一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].start |
23716.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].end |
23717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].text |
國防部就吃一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].start |
23718.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].end |
23720.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].text |
現在你還特別要再吃這麼大塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].start |
23720.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].end |
23723.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].text |
我們就覺得放在年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].start |
23723.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].end |
23725.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].text |
監督力道也比較足啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].start |
23725.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].end |
23727.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].text |
這個特別預算就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].start |
23727.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].end |
23729.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].text |
這個特別預算就太特別了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].start |
23733.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].end |
23734.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].text |
來 聯署委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].start |
23735.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].end |
23736.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].start |
23736.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].end |
23737.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].text |
其實我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].start |
23737.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].end |
23738.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].text |
其實道第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].start |
23738.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].end |
23740.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].text |
就是一個深水區啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].start |
23740.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].end |
23742.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].text |
因為剛剛大家不論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].start |
23742.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].end |
23743.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].text |
國民黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].start |
23743.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].end |
23744.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].text |
或是民眾黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].start |
23744.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].end |
23745.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].text |
還包括我們民黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].start |
23745.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].end |
23747.46 |
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都已經有發言了 |
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23747.46 |
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23748.46 |
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那麼這個深水區 |
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23748.46 |
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23749.46 |
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其實就決定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].start |
23749.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].end |
23750.46 |
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接下來 |
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23750.46 |
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23754.46 |
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到底我們要不要來採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].start |
23754.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].end |
23756.46 |
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那要用什麼樣的方式採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].start |
23756.46 |
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23757.46 |
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以及採購之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].start |
23757.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].end |
23759.46 |
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什麼時候可以拿得到 |
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23759.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].end |
23761.46 |
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比如說如果真的就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].start |
23761.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].end |
23764.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].text |
如同國民黨跟民眾黨認為的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].start |
23764.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].end |
23768.46 |
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現在就是要進入年度預算 |
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23768.46 |
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23770.46 |
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那麼進入年度預算的時候 |
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23770.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].end |
23771.46 |
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你跟人家買東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].start |
23771.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].end |
23774.46 |
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那麼人家為什麼要先給你400億之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].start |
23774.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].end |
23777.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].text |
全部的東西就給你來使用 |
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23777.46 |
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23781.46 |
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我相信這個也是大家在面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].start |
23781.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].end |
23783.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].text |
我們現在討論這一題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].start |
23783.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].end |
23785.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].text |
其實最明確知道的嘛 |
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23785.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8854].end |
23788.46 |
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因為如果說回到年度預算 |
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23788.46 |
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23790.46 |
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那麼還是要回到老生常談 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].start |
23790.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].end |
23793.46 |
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就是我們現在2026年的年度預算 |
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23793.46 |
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23794.46 |
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還卡住 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].start |
23794.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].end |
23796.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].text |
那麼我相信在公聽會 |
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23796.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8859].end |
23798.46 |
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7月23號公聽會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].start |
23798.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].end |
23801.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].text |
廠商業者都講得非常的清楚跟明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[8861].start |
23801.46 |
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23804.46 |
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就是如果沒有一個穩定的預算 |
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23804.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].end |
23807.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].text |
那麼他們根本不敢下去做長單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].start |
23807.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].end |
23809.46 |
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所以為什麼我的版本 |
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23809.46 |
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23812.46 |
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跟行政院的版本會希望有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].start |
23813.95 |
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23816.95 |
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2100億為上限的特別預算 |
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23816.95 |
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23819.95 |
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那就是第一在採購的部分 |
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23819.95 |
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23821.95 |
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確定了就是有2100億 |
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23821.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].end |
23824.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].text |
那麼2100億到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].start |
23824.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].end |
23828.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].text |
他有機會應該是說一定可以跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].start |
23828.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].end |
23830.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].text |
美國買到這些武器 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].start |
23830.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].end |
23833.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].text |
那麼買到之後包含剛剛政天才委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].start |
23833.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].end |
23836.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].text |
特別提到的我們怎麼樣的國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].start |
23836.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].end |
23839.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].text |
那麼當然接下來剛剛這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].start |
23839.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].end |
23841.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].text |
國民黨的委員也有提到的希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].start |
23841.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].end |
23843.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].text |
技術轉移或等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[8876].start |
23843.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8876].end |
23845.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8876].text |
這個都是後續採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[8877].start |
23845.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8877].end |
23846.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8877].text |
我相信國防部這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].start |
23848.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].end |
23849.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].text |
會去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].start |
23849.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].end |
23851.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].text |
進一步的協商跟溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].start |
23851.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].end |
23853.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].text |
包括我們在採購的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].start |
23854.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].end |
23857.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].text |
有多少的部分可以記轉給我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].start |
23857.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].end |
23861.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].text |
無人產業的業者來未來做生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].start |
23861.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].end |
23864.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].text |
但是如果說你今天沒有一個穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].start |
23866.09 |
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23869.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].text |
的長單我覺得是坑殺業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].start |
23869.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].end |
23872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].text |
業者也講了就是你一下有一下沒有 |
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23872.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].end |
23875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].text |
然後以目前立法院的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].start |
23875.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].end |
23876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].text |
大家也不要騙人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].start |
23876.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].end |
23879.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].text |
這個預算能夠順利的編列下來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].start |
23879.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].end |
23882.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].text |
那麼業者敢去投資敢去生產嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].start |
23882.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].end |
23884.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].text |
甚至於我說實話連銀行可能都不 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].start |
23884.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].end |
23886.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].text |
就算業者想先去生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].start |
23886.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].end |
23889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].text |
銀行可能都不敢給你貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].start |
23889.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].end |
23891.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].text |
沒有訂單哪來貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].start |
23891.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].end |
23894.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].text |
這個到時候在銀行審核的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].start |
23894.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].end |
23896.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].text |
都會覺得你沒單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].start |
23897.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].end |
23898.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].text |
我還給你貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].start |
23898.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].end |
23900.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].text |
不要銀行到時候還出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].start |
23900.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].end |
23902.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].text |
超貸偽貸假貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].start |
23902.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].end |
23905.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].text |
所以講白了是回到這個整個社會上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].start |
23905.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].end |
23907.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].text |
邏輯就是用一個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].start |
23907.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].end |
23910.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].text |
他才能夠穩定的有訂單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].start |
23910.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].end |
23911.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].text |
然後我們也才能夠買得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].start |
23911.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].end |
23914.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].text |
所以這也是為什麼我相信今天我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].start |
23914.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].end |
23916.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].text |
這裡討論第五條的深水區 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].start |
23916.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].end |
23919.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].text |
我覺得用特別預算的方式才是最可行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].start |
23921.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].end |
23924.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].text |
還有新的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].start |
23924.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].end |
23926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].text |
我要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].start |
23926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].end |
23930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].text |
剛剛顧部長提到的那幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].start |
23930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].end |
23932.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].text |
是不是國民黨的委員能夠回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].start |
23932.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].end |
23935.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].text |
就你的公務預算每年編列400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].start |
23936.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].end |
23938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].text |
那如果編列不足的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].start |
23938.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].end |
23940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].text |
算不算違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].start |
23940.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].end |
23941.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].text |
如果編列超過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].start |
23941.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].end |
23942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].text |
算不算違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].start |
23942.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].end |
23945.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].text |
他的長單訂購 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].start |
23945.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].end |
23948.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].text |
他不一定今年需要可以付到400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].start |
23948.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].end |
23951.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].text |
或者是下一個年度需要多過400億的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].start |
23951.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].end |
23953.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].text |
預算要怎麼編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].start |
23954.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].end |
23957.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].text |
我們是不是可以請教偉大的國民黨的黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].start |
23957.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].end |
23959.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].text |
因為這法條是你們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].start |
23959.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].end |
23960.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].text |
這版本是你們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].start |
23960.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].end |
23962.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].text |
可不可以說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].start |
23962.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].end |
23964.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].text |
預算編列不足算不算違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].start |
23964.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].end |
23966.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].text |
預算編列超過算不算違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].start |
23966.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].end |
23968.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].text |
如果長單訂購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].start |
23968.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].end |
23970.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].text |
法律明定多少就是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].start |
23970.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].end |
23972.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].text |
為什麼我剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].start |
23972.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].end |
23974.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].text |
所以我一年只有400億可以花 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].start |
23974.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].end |
23976.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].text |
那我今年不需要用到400億的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].start |
23976.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].end |
23978.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].text |
我用編400億 |
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23978.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].end |
23980.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].text |
那編了要幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].start |
23980.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].end |
23982.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].text |
因為法律明定400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].start |
23982.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].end |
23984.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].text |
法律明定400億 |
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23986.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].end |
23988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].text |
那你應該問國防部 |
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23988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].end |
23990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].text |
國防部沒有要這樣編 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].start |
23990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].end |
23992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].text |
是你們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].start |
23992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].end |
23994.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].text |
法條是你們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].start |
23996.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].end |
23998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].text |
2100億 |
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23998.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].end |
24000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].text |
它有長單短單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].start |
24000.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].end |
24002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].text |
它不是一年執行完 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].start |
24002.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].end |
24004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].text |
這是特別採購特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].start |
24004.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].end |
24006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].text |
不是一年執行2100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].start |
24006.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].end |
24008.04 |
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我現在問的是說 |
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你把他明文化 |
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你等我問完你再講 |
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你把他明文化 |
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一年規定就是編列400億 |
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那如果不足的時候怎麼辦 |
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超過的時候算不算違法 |
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超過算不算違法 |
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好 第一個 |
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有禮貌一點 |
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剛才我已經講了 |
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24031.5 |
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剛才我已經講了 |
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24034.67 |
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法律明定一年400億 |
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24038.84 |
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24040.84 |
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老婆 |
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法律明定400億 |
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國防部如果認為 |
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我用不到400億一年 |
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當然在其他的產業 |
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因為這是 |
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國防自主 |
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24056.73 |
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無人宰計 |
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24056.31 |
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24058.31 |
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然後我們 |
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24057.84 |
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24059.84 |
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要讓產業 |
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24059.63 |
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24061.63 |
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能夠發展 |
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24061.23 |
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24063.23 |
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我們自己的無人宰計 |
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24064.91 |
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24066.91 |
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國防部用不到那麼多 |
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24066.91 |
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24068.91 |
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我們可以給我們的產業借 |
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24069.75 |
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所以一年就是編400億 |
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如果認為這400億不夠 |
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24080.18 |
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那就要先讓國防部 |
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先把大了第一劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].start |
24085.35 |
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24087.35 |
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你先聽清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].start |
24087.35 |
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24089.35 |
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國防自主產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].start |
24089.35 |
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24091.35 |
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你要先看 |
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24091.02 |
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24093.02 |
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你要先看這個法律名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].start |
24093.02 |
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24095.02 |
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行政法律名稱叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].start |
24095.02 |
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24097.02 |
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國防自主產業 |
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24097.38 |
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24099.38 |
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國防部他可以自己 |
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24099.38 |
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24101.38 |
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可以生產嗎 |
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24101.38 |
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24103.38 |
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他當然就要靠產業啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].start |
24103.98 |
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24105.98 |
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國防自主啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].start |
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24107.98 |
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什麼叫國防自主 |
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24109.98 |
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不是去買美國 |
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叫國防自主啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].start |
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24113.98 |
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那個直接寫就 |
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那就直接寫國防 |
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國防採購 |
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24119.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].text |
無人採購 |
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24119.98 |
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24121.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].text |
採購特別條例 |
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24121.98 |
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24123.98 |
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國防無人採購 |
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24123.98 |
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24125.98 |
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採購特別條例就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].start |
24125.98 |
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24127.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].text |
為什麼還要加個自主 |
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24127.98 |
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24129.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].text |
為什麼要加個自主 |
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自主就是要自己 |
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產生生產為主啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].start |
24135.23 |
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24137.23 |
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所以這個部分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].start |
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24139.41 |
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國防採購不能隨便到產業裡面 |
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24139.41 |
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24141.41 |
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去那個錢不能亂挪啊 |
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24141.41 |
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24143.41 |
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中文你要看得懂 |
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24143.41 |
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24145.41 |
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法律你要看得懂啊 |
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24145.41 |
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24147.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].text |
你要看清楚行政院現在就有這個計畫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].start |
24149.32 |
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24151.32 |
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這裡面就包含了國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].start |
24152.95 |
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24156.95 |
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非常重要的在行政院的所訂的產業 |
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24156.95 |
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24158.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].text |
這個無人採購的計畫裡面 |
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24158.95 |
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24160.95 |
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就是寫得很清楚 |
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24162.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].text |
國防自主 |
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24163.98 |
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24165.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].text |
那現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].start |
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24167.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].text |
我們要把它列為提升為法律的位階 |
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24167.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].end |
24169.98 |
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因為才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].start |
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24173.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].text |
不會因著不同的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].start |
24174.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].end |
24176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].text |
不同的經濟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].start |
24176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].end |
24178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].text |
不同的國防部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].start |
24178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].end |
24180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].text |
而產生預算的偏差 |
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24180.55 |
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24182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].text |
所以要特別以 |
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24183.22 |
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24185.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].text |
法律 |
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24186.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].text |
來民變 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].start |
24186.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].end |
24188.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].text |
這樣的話才會 |
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24188.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].end |
24190.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].text |
不會因為院長的變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].start |
24190.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].end |
24192.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].text |
國防部長的變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].start |
24193.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].end |
24195.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].start |
24194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].end |
24196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].text |
經濟部長的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].start |
24196.6 |
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24198.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].text |
我們現在就是用法律的位階 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].start |
24198.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].end |
24200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].text |
把它民變 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].start |
24200.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].end |
24202.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].text |
這個才能夠確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].start |
24202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].end |
24204.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].text |
所謂的國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].start |
24205.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].end |
24207.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].text |
無人宰計的這樣一個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].start |
24207.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].end |
24209.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].start |
24221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].end |
24223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].text |
我們就是年度預算我不編而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].start |
24223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].end |
24225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].text |
就按照你的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].start |
24225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].end |
24227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].text |
我支持年度的那種我不編 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].start |
24227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].end |
24229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].text |
最重要的民主黨的那種不編 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].start |
24229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].end |
24231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].text |
我年度預算幹嘛要編 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].start |
24231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].end |
24233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].text |
對啊對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].start |
24233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].end |
24235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].text |
我就年度預算就按照你的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].start |
24235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].end |
24237.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].text |
你要買你要追加就提出啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].start |
24240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].end |
24242.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].text |
討論這麼多就這差別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].start |
24243.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].end |
24245.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].text |
這個主席我覺得我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].start |
24245.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].end |
24247.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].text |
在委員會大家是朝野 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].start |
24247.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].end |
24249.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].text |
所以應該是這樣子的對應才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].start |
24249.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].end |
24251.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].text |
那第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].start |
24251.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].end |
24253.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].text |
沒有人會去反對 |
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24253.92 |
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24255.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].text |
國防的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].start |
24255.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].end |
24257.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].text |
自主加強預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].start |
24257.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].end |
24259.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].text |
沒有人會反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].start |
24259.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].end |
24261.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].text |
所以我們提出 |
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24261.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].end |
24263.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].text |
2400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].start |
24263.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].end |
24265.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].text |
有人反對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].start |
24267.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].end |
24269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].text |
對不對 |
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24269.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].end |
24271.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].text |
有人反對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].start |
24271.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].end |
24273.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].text |
你如果懂得這樣子就我們趕快去審 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].start |
24273.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].end |
24275.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].text |
沒有那個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].start |
24275.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].end |
24277.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].text |
如果你一年不需要400億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].start |
24277.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].end |
24279.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].text |
國防部長聽到他暈倒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].start |
24280.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].end |
24282.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].start |
24282.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].end |
24284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].text |
所以真一點就在於剛剛主席所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].start |
24284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].end |
24286.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].text |
所以我敬請主席來做裁示 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].start |
24290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].end |
24292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].text |
好我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].start |
24295.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].end |
24297.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].start |
24298.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].end |
24300.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].start |
24308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].end |
24310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].text |
好接下來我們進行第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].start |
24310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].end |
24312.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].text |
請經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].start |
24321.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].end |
24323.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].text |
報告聯席委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].start |
24323.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].end |
24325.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].text |
行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].start |
24325.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].end |
24327.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].text |
等有十個版本都規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].start |
24327.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].end |
24329.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].text |
這個本條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].start |
24329.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].end |
24331.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].text |
本條例所列預算的執行應依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].start |
24331.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].end |
24333.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].text |
辦理審計其中賴氏堡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].start |
24333.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].end |
24335.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].text |
等委員的版本A |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].start |
24335.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].end |
24337.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].text |
另外要求駐管機關每六個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].start |
24337.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].end |
24339.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].text |
向立法院提出專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].start |
24339.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].end |
24341.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].text |
黃定宇等委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].start |
24341.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].end |
24343.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].text |
則徵訂非經立法院同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].start |
24343.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].end |
24345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].text |
不得留用及定期提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].start |
24345.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].end |
24347.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].text |
執行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].start |
24348.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].end |
24350.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].text |
期滿總報告等監督機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].start |
24351.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].end |
24353.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].text |
行政部門這邊的建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].start |
24353.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].end |
24355.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].text |
是本條例所列的預算的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].start |
24363.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].end |
24367.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].text |
決算的審核問證的質詢以及專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].start |
24367.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].end |
24369.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].text |
等現行的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].start |
24369.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].end |
24371.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].text |
要求行政機關提供執行情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].start |
24371.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].end |
24373.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].text |
建立無需另立 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].start |
24373.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].end |
24375.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].text |
立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].start |
24377.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].end |
24381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].text |
令有關非經立法院同意不得留用的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].start |
24381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].end |
24383.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].text |
這個部分我們再看 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].start |
24383.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].end |
24385.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].text |
這個國安部這邊看是不是同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].start |
24385.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].end |
24387.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].text |
來做規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].start |
24387.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].end |
24389.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].start |
24389.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].end |
24391.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].start |
24390.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].end |
24392.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].start |
24395.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].end |
24397.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].start |
24399.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].end |
24401.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].text |
至少有一個條文第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].start |
24401.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].end |
24403.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].text |
第六條就 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].start |
24403.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].end |
24405.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].text |
前面吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].start |
24405.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].end |
24407.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].text |
你不堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].start |
24407.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].end |
24409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].text |
不是 我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].start |
24409.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].end |
24411.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].text |
來來來 我是呼籲我前面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].start |
24411.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].end |
24413.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].text |
強調技術輿轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].start |
24413.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].end |
24415.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].text |
六個報告技術輿轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].start |
24415.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].end |
24417.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].text |
以及採購進度以及工業合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].start |
24417.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].end |
24419.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].text |
就Obset這個相關金塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].start |
24419.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].end |
24421.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].text |
這個我不堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].start |
24421.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].end |
24423.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].text |
大家同意第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].start |
24423.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].end |
24425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].text |
第二條願保沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].start |
24425.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].end |
24427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].text |
審計意見就好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].start |
24427.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].end |
24429.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].text |
民眾黨團又沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].start |
24429.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].end |
24431.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].text |
你們根本沒有講到預算 你們哪有保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].start |
24431.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].end |
24433.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].text |
你們的版本根本沒有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].start |
24435.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].end |
24437.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].text |
第六條就是講那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].start |
24437.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].end |
24439.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].text |
預算是執行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].start |
24439.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].end |
24441.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].text |
你們的條例根本沒有預算要執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].start |
24443.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].end |
24445.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].text |
不是這樣子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].start |
24446.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].end |
24448.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].text |
等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].start |
24451.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].end |
24453.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].text |
等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].start |
24453.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].end |
24455.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].text |
那個第六條是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].start |
24455.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].end |
24457.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].text |
有特別預算才有這一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].start |
24457.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].end |
24459.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].text |
第一條就保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].start |
24459.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].end |
24461.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].text |
國眾兩黨沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].start |
24461.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].end |
24463.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].text |
特別預算所以沒有這一條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].start |
24463.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].end |
24465.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].text |
所以這一條要保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].start |
24467.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].end |
24469.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].text |
沒有這一條所以要保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].start |
24469.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].end |
24471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].text |
國眾兩黨沒有的我們都不要審 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].start |
24471.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].end |
24473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].text |
直接保留啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].start |
24473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].end |
24475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].text |
這已經不一樣了不一定啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].start |
24475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].end |
24477.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].text |
因為我沒有特別預算所以我當然不會寫這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].start |
24478.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].end |
24480.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].text |
我是連都預算所以我當然不會寫這個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].start |
24480.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].end |
24482.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].text |
好啦主席還是要講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].start |
24482.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].end |
24484.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].text |
因為我看到你們後面的第五條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].start |
24485.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].end |
24487.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].text |
來主席我講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].start |
24487.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].end |
24489.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].text |
你們的第五條你們還定義叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].start |
24489.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].end |
24491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].text |
發展綱領啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].start |
24491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].end |
24493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].text |
那麼其實呢其他以特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].start |
24493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].end |
24495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].text |
提出的都是採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].start |
24495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].end |
24497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].text |
行政員版本本條例所列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].start |
24497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].end |
24499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].text |
是執行審計機關因依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].start |
24499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].end |
24501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].text |
辦理審計這是再明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].start |
24501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].end |
24503.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].text |
不過的道理那至於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].start |
24503.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].end |
24505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].text |
賴氏寶委員的A板因為他一直心繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].start |
24505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].end |
24507.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].text |
說什麼技術移轉等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].start |
24507.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].end |
24509.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].text |
看起來很好意事實上很詭計 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].start |
24509.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].end |
24511.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].text |
他就堅持要加第二項那我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].start |
24511.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].end |
24513.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].text |
有尊重啦但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].start |
24513.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].end |
24515.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].text |
那個第四民眾黨團的第五條呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].start |
24515.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].end |
24517.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].text |
他這裡寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].start |
24517.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].end |
24519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].text |
經濟部應每四年提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].start |
24519.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].end |
24521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].text |
無人機產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].start |
24521.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].end |
24523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].text |
每兩年檢討修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].start |
24523.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].end |
24525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].text |
涉及國防運用事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].start |
24525.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].end |
24527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].text |
應會同國防部進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].start |
24527.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].end |
24529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].text |
那為什麼我再提說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].start |
24529.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].end |
24531.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].text |
今天主席一直沒有分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].start |
24531.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].end |
24533.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].text |
就會造成我們這個困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].start |
24533.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].end |
24535.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].text |
其實這個條文如果嚴格來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].start |
24537.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].end |
24541.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].text |
看起來似乎國家要提出一個這個無人機產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].start |
24542.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].end |
24544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].text |
或者無人機你們是不是無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].start |
24544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].end |
24546.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].text |
我是認為是無人載具產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].start |
24547.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].end |
24549.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].text |
訂出一個無人載具產業的發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].start |
24549.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].end |
24551.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].text |
不是壞事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].start |
24552.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].end |
24554.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].text |
但是由於砸了你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].start |
24554.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].end |
24556.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].text |
你們的版本就是有點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].start |
24556.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].end |
24558.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].text |
突然天外廢了一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].start |
24558.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].end |
24560.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].text |
叫我們看了說有一個發展綱領不錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].start |
24560.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].end |
24562.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].text |
但是沒地方擺啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].start |
24562.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].end |
24564.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].text |
我們今天討論到目前大家有討論爭議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].start |
24564.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].end |
24566.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].text |
都跟這個沒有關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].start |
24566.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].end |
24568.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].text |
所以這一條好像是天外廢了一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].start |
24568.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].end |
24570.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].text |
讓我們不知道如何面對示好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].start |
24570.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].end |
24572.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].text |
而且這裡面還說喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].start |
24572.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].end |
24574.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].text |
最後一項寫第一項所稱無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].start |
24574.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].end |
24576.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].text |
無人機產業發展綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].start |
24576.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].end |
24578.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].text |
應依國家無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].start |
24578.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].end |
24580.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].text |
發展戰略特別委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].start |
24580.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].end |
24582.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].text |
我知道你們設一個戰略特別委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].start |
24582.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].end |
24584.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].text |
我看過喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].start |
24584.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].end |
24586.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].text |
還兵經行政院核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].start |
24586.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].end |
24588.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].text |
應送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].start |
24588.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].end |
24590.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].text |
哇這個就是大學問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].start |
24590.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].end |
24592.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].text |
最近聽說國民黨有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].start |
24592.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].end |
24594.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].text |
建言說要將國統綱領 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].start |
24594.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].end |
24596.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].text |
繼續來發揚光大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].start |
24596.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].end |
24598.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].text |
要將國統會恢復運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].start |
24598.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].end |
24600.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].text |
老實說啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].start |
24600.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].end |
24602.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].text |
當年的國統綱領在總統府那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].start |
24602.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].end |
24604.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].text |
的宣示李登輝前總統在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].start |
24604.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].end |
24606.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].text |
1991年也沒有送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].start |
24606.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].end |
24608.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].text |
立法院來弄一個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].start |
24608.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].end |
24610.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].text |
什麼什麼綱領啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].start |
24610.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].end |
24612.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].text |
所以呢有見於處 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].start |
24612.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].end |
24614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].text |
我是覺得既然如此民眾黨黨團的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].start |
24614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].end |
24616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].text |
提案呢其實是可以分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].start |
24616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].end |
24618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].text |
就不用處理我們就認真的來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].start |
24618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].end |
24620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].text |
那個第六條那至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].start |
24620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].end |
24622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].text |
國民黨的更可笑啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].start |
24622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].end |
24624.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].text |
他說第四條國防部應依 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].start |
24624.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].end |
24626.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].text |
量大價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].start |
24626.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].end |
24628.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].text |
智慧化分布式的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].start |
24628.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].end |
24630.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].text |
這講得不錯嘛定定無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].start |
24630.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].end |
24632.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].text |
無人載具防衛體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].start |
24632.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].end |
24634.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].text |
之中長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].start |
24634.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].end |
24636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].text |
發展目標這個很適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].start |
24636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].end |
24638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].text |
在年度預算的時候放在主決議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].start |
24638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].end |
24640.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].text |
並且以兩年滾動檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].start |
24640.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].end |
24642.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].text |
一次並依台海安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].start |
24642.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].end |
24644.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].text |
情勢變化及國際先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].start |
24644.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].end |
24646.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].text |
國家之發展趨勢調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].start |
24646.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].end |
24648.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].text |
這個太像我們在審 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].start |
24648.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].end |
24650.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].text |
立法院在審行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].start |
24650.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].end |
24652.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].text |
年度預算的主決議文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].start |
24652.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].end |
24654.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].text |
然後經濟部應會同國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].start |
24654.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].end |
24656.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].text |
每年向立法院提出無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].start |
24656.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].end |
24658.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].text |
提升國防戰力產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].start |
24658.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].end |
24660.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].text |
科技創新及經濟效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].start |
24660.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].end |
24662.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].text |
階段性的發展報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].start |
24662.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].end |
24664.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].text |
我是建議啊國民黨黨團團你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].start |
24664.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].end |
24666.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].text |
這個條文其實可以放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].start |
24666.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].end |
24668.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].text |
我們年度預算審的時候放在主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].start |
24668.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].end |
24670.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].text |
還比較相稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].start |
24670.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].end |
24672.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].text |
放在一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].start |
24671.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].end |
24673.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].text |
放在一個這樣的一個專法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].start |
24673.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].end |
24675.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].text |
感覺上有點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].start |
24675.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].end |
24677.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].text |
有點有點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].start |
24677.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].end |
24679.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].text |
好像位階上不太對稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].start |
24679.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].end |
24681.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].text |
一個私下的建議謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].start |
24684.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].end |
24686.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].start |
24687.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].end |
24689.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].text |
拜拜拜拜拜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].start |
24689.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].end |
24691.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].text |
其實各位都誤會了因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].start |
24691.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].end |
24693.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].text |
這個預算當然你就會寫到第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].start |
24693.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].end |
24695.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].text |
年度預算就不會有這幾條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].start |
24695.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].end |
24697.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].text |
就這樣子所以也因為在前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].start |
24697.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].end |
24699.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].text |
這邊的不同所以我們第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].start |
24699.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].end |
24701.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].text |
也是一樣保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].start |
24702.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].end |
24704.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].text |
然後接下來的話就是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].start |
24704.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].end |
24706.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].text |
也不能講說因為行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].start |
24706.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].end |
24708.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].text |
條文到這邊就 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].start |
24709.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].end |
24711.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].text |
差不多結束因為他直接就跳到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].start |
24711.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].end |
24713.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].text |
最後面那個實施的日期了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].start |
24713.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].end |
24715.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].text |
但是在這裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].start |
24715.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].end |
24717.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].text |
來講的話基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].start |
24721.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].end |
24723.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].text |
這個是回到我們早上談的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].start |
24723.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].end |
24725.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].text |
啊不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].start |
24725.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].end |
24727.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].text |
我們就提我們的版本我們的版本我們現在已經把它整了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].start |
24727.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].end |
24729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].text |
把它整了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].start |
24729.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].end |
24731.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].text |
整成是這樣因為就像後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].start |
24731.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].end |
24733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].text |
中嘉賓委員後面也是一樣有些是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].start |
24733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].end |
24735.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].text |
也只有你的這一個到產 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].start |
24735.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].end |
24737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].text |
因為行政院版也沒有行政院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].start |
24737.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].end |
24739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].text |
也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].start |
24739.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].end |
24741.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].text |
不是啊你就一條一條我已經幫你們整理好了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].start |
24741.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].end |
24743.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].text |
所以就一條一條來就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].start |
24743.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].end |
24745.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].start |
24745.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].end |
24747.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].text |
經紀人會這邊開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].start |
24750.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].end |
24752.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].text |
你要有一個follow的一個順序嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].start |
24752.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].end |
24754.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].text |
對啊所以現在就是第14頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].start |
24754.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].end |
24756.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].text |
第14頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].start |
24758.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].end |
24760.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].text |
國民黨的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].start |
24760.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].end |
24762.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].text |
國民黨的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].start |
24762.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].end |
24764.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].text |
跟台灣民眾黨團的第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].start |
24766.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].end |
24768.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].text |
我跟甘迷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].start |
24769.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].end |
24771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].text |
沒有國統抗聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].start |
24771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].end |
24773.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].text |
來來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].start |
24775.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].end |
24777.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].text |
五決一就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].start |
24777.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].end |
24779.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].text |
五決一了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].start |
24780.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].end |
24782.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].text |
好那就是兩個版本我們都保留啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].start |
24784.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].end |
24788.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].text |
再來是國民黨黨團的提案的第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].start |
24792.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].end |
24794.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].text |
要不要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].start |
24795.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].end |
24797.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].text |
這你們現在看起來就是要馬上又過水過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].start |
24797.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].end |
24799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].text |
來我請教一下國民黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].start |
24799.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].end |
24801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].text |
是不是能夠請國民黨說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].start |
24801.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].end |
24803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].start |
24803.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].end |
24805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].text |
國防部應依量大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].start |
24805.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].end |
24807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].text |
價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].start |
24807.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].end |
24809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].text |
智慧化分布式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].start |
24809.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].end |
24811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].text |
資源擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].start |
24811.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].end |
24813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].text |
分布式資源擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].start |
24813.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].end |
24815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].text |
訂定無人載具防衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].start |
24815.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].end |
24817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].text |
體系之中長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].start |
24817.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].end |
24819.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].text |
發展目標並 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].start |
24819.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].end |
24821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].text |
每兩年滾動檢討一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].start |
24821.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].end |
24823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].text |
請問這是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].start |
24823.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].end |
24825.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].text |
來那個國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].start |
24826.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].end |
24828.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].text |
不是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].start |
24828.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].end |
24830.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].text |
那個就是保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].start |
24830.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].end |
24832.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].text |
就你兩個性質不同嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].start |
24832.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].end |
24834.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].text |
來我請教我可不可以請教一下國民黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].start |
24836.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].end |
24838.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].text |
國民黨黨團你們寫這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].start |
24838.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].end |
24840.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].text |
這個是要怎麼執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].start |
24840.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].end |
24842.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].text |
是要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].start |
24842.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].end |
24844.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].text |
這個國防部能不能回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].start |
24844.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].end |
24846.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].text |
什麼叫做量大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].start |
24846.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].end |
24848.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].text |
價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].start |
24848.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].end |
24850.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].text |
智慧化分布式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].start |
24853.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].end |
24855.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].text |
請問這是要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].start |
24855.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].end |
24857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].text |
啊那寫條文的人是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].start |
24857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].end |
24859.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].text |
可以說來說明一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].start |
24859.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].end |
24861.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].text |
我們才要摔下頭皮什麼人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].start |
24861.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].end |
24863.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].text |
量大價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].start |
24863.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].end |
24865.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].text |
就是心扉指甲 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].start |
24865.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].end |
24867.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].text |
就比較簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].start |
24867.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].end |
24869.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].text |
就小到大就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].start |
24869.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].end |
24871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].text |
分布式就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].start |
24871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].end |
24873.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].text |
這個去中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].start |
24873.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].end |
24875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].text |
我不是亂講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].start |
24875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].end |
24877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].text |
尊重你的寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].start |
24877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].end |
24879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].text |
你也要量大價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].start |
24879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].end |
24881.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].text |
要求不買嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].start |
24881.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].end |
24883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].text |
國防的採購一定是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].start |
24883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].end |
24885.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].text |
需求是什麼就買什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].start |
24885.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].end |
24887.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].text |
怎麼會寫量大價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].start |
24887.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].end |
24889.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].text |
不 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].start |
24887.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].end |
24889.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].text |
分布式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].start |
24889.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].end |
24891.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].text |
他已經念過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].start |
24891.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].end |
24893.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].text |
然後決議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].start |
24893.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].end |
24895.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].text |
他已經念過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].start |
24895.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].end |
24897.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].start |
24897.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].end |
24899.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].text |
這一條沒討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].start |
24899.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].end |
24901.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].text |
現在不是要討論這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].start |
24902.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].end |
24904.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].text |
現在到第幾條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].start |
24904.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].end |
24906.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].text |
到第15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].start |
24906.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].end |
24908.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].text |
第15後的第 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].start |
24908.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].end |
24910.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].text |
國民黨團的第5條了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].start |
24911.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].end |
24913.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].text |
好啦那沒關係那我現在回來第4條請教一下可以嗎主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].start |
24915.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].end |
24917.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].text |
為什麼不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].start |
24917.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].end |
24919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].text |
立法院這是什麼決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].start |
24919.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].end |
24921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].text |
請問你們誰要調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].start |
24921.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].end |
24923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].text |
這是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].start |
24923.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].end |
24925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].text |
你剛剛也在會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].start |
24925.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].end |
24927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].text |
你如果沒有在會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].start |
24927.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].end |
24929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].text |
你也在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].start |
24929.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].end |
24931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].text |
對啊你已經從頭到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].start |
24931.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].end |
24933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].text |
那個主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].start |
24933.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].end |
24935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].text |
有注意覺得你沒聽到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].start |
24935.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].end |
24937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].text |
請說明一下什麼是量大價廉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].start |
24937.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].end |
24939.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].text |
分布性嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].start |
24939.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].end |
24941.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].text |
對我剛剛已經念完保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].start |
24941.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].end |
24943.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].text |
主席啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].start |
24942.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].end |
24944.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].text |
你要這樣子念的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].start |
24944.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].end |
24946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].text |
你就直接每一條就念保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].start |
24946.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].end |
24948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].text |
我們不要在這裡花一整天的時間嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].start |
24948.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].end |
24950.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].text |
你除了掛水以外你還是放水嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].start |
24951.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].end |
24953.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].text |
胡搞路瞎搞 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].start |
24954.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].end |
24956.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].text |
我給你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].start |
24956.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].end |
24958.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].text |
你這樣練過就算了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].start |
24958.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].end |
24960.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].text |
幫我們幹什麼東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].start |
24960.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].end |
24962.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].text |
我給你的財政委員會好一點啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].start |
24962.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].end |
24964.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].start |
24966.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].end |
24968.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].text |
你不要跟別人比啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].start |
24968.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].end |
24970.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].text |
誰是財政委員會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].start |
24970.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].end |
24972.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].text |
今天我們本來就是要認真討論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].start |
24972.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].end |
24974.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].text |
以前全專條例不就是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].start |
24974.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].end |
24976.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].text |
全專條例怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].start |
24977.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].end |
24979.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].text |
你們還不是拿全專條例來當你們的戰績 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].start |
24980.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].end |
24982.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].text |
沒人啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].start |
24982.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].end |
24984.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].text |
來國民黨農村提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].start |
24984.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].end |
24986.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].text |
十五月幾下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].start |
24986.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].end |
24988.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].text |
請說明主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].start |
24989 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].end |
24991 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].text |
請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].start |
24990.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].end |
24992.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].text |
白習剛剛的提問請說明請回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].start |
24993.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].end |
24995.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].text |
剛剛賴志寶委員回答了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].start |
24995.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].end |
24997.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].text |
聽不懂請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].start |
25001.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].end |
25003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].text |
我不是國防部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].start |
25003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].end |
25005.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].text |
我也不是經濟部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].start |
25005.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].end |
25007.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].text |
我們一定要回答你 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].start |
25007.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].end |
25009.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].text |
這個已經念過去的一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].start |
25009.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].end |
25011.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].text |
已經是保留的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].start |
25011.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].end |
25013.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].text |
你要回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].start |
25012.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].end |
25014.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].text |
立委彼此尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].start |
25014.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].end |
25016.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].text |
我們是監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].start |
25016.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].end |
25018.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].text |
這樣吵架就沒有意思了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].start |
25018.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].end |
25020.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].text |
我們是監督行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].start |
25020.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].end |
25022.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].text |
我們是有權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].start |
25022.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].end |
25024.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].text |
要求行政部門做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].start |
25024.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].end |
25026.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].text |
所以你再兇再怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].start |
25026.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].end |
25028.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].text |
再尖銳都應該去針對行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].start |
25028.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].end |
25030.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].text |
針對立委之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].start |
25030.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].end |
25032.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].text |
老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].start |
25032.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].end |
25034.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].text |
這打通詐詐累累的只是在搞這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].start |
25034.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].end |
25036.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].text |
沒有意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].start |
25036.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].end |
25038.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].text |
吵架沒有意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].start |
25038.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].end |
25040.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].text |
吵架沒有意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].start |
25040.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].end |
25042.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].text |
沒有意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].start |
25046.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].end |
25048.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].text |
這個就是阿爸啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].start |
25048.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].end |
25050.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].text |
人家在提問你們就直接第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].start |
25050.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].end |
25052.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].text |
第七條第八條就過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].start |
25052.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].end |
25054.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].text |
這就是阿爸嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].start |
25054.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].end |
25056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].text |
這是阿爸嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].start |
25056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].end |
25060.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].text |
我們還在進行國民黨黨堂提案第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].start |
25060.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].end |
25062.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].text |
這變成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].start |
25063.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].end |
25065.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].text |
國民黨黨堂的第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].start |
25067.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].end |
25069.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].text |
國民黨說明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].start |
25070.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].end |
25072.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].text |
這也不用說明啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].start |
25073.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].end |
25075.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].text |
那我來問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].start |
25076.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].end |
25078.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].text |
這個第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].start |
25078.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].end |
25080.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].text |
現在講台灣調寶第十五頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].start |
25080.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].end |
25082.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].text |
我知道現在我們的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].start |
25082.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].end |
25084.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].text |
辛吉盧粉希望趕快能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].start |
25084.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].end |
25086.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].text |
早點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].start |
25086.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].end |
25088.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].start |
25088.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].end |
25090.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].start |
25090.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].end |
25092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].text |
無人載具防衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].start |
25092.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].end |
25094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].text |
體系之規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].start |
25094.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].end |
25096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].text |
應遵循分布式任性原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].start |
25096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].end |
25098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].text |
我想念到這裡沒有人反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].start |
25098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].end |
25100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].text |
避免集中部署或集中生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].start |
25100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].end |
25102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].text |
我想這也沒有人想要集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].start |
25102.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].end |
25104.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].text |
部署跟集中生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].start |
25104.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].end |
25106.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].text |
俄羅斯也不會這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].start |
25106.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].end |
25108.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].text |
但是第一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].start |
25108.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].end |
25110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].text |
無人載具自生產基地應分布於至少三個不同縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].start |
25110.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].end |
25112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].text |
不得集中於單一地理區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].start |
25112.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].end |
25114.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].text |
以降低遭受集中打擊之風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].start |
25114.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].end |
25116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].text |
講得很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].start |
25116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].end |
25118.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].text |
但是不知道怎麼定義啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].start |
25119.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].end |
25121.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].text |
單一地理區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].start |
25121.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].end |
25123.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].text |
屏東跟高雄算不算單一地理區 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].start |
25124.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].end |
25126.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].text |
台南高雄屏東算不算單一地理區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].start |
25126.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].end |
25128.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].text |
那如果分布在台南屏東 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].start |
25128.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].end |
25130.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].text |
高雄三個縣市不同縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].start |
25130.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].end |
25132.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].text |
這樣有沒有算達成這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].start |
25132.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].end |
25134.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].text |
所規定的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].start |
25134.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].end |
25136.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].text |
還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].start |
25136.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].end |
25138.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].text |
這個單一地理區域是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].start |
25138.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].end |
25140.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].text |
我是覺得法律條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].start |
25140.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].end |
25142.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].text |
如果是寫原則性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].start |
25142.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].end |
25144.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].text |
指導是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].start |
25144.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].end |
25146.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].text |
法律條文顯成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].start |
25146.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].end |
25148.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].text |
我們真的不曉得未來如何去認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].start |
25148.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].end |
25150.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].text |
他的有沒有依法執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].start |
25150.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].end |
25152.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].text |
第二款無人載具自戰備 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].start |
25152.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].end |
25154.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].text |
儲存因分散於不同據點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].start |
25154.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].end |
25156.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].start |
25157.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].end |
25159.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].text |
不要說是我們顧部長當部長啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].start |
25160.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].end |
25162.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].start |
25161.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].end |
25163.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].text |
也不用像烏克蘭以前的蘇發部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].start |
25163.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].end |
25165.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].text |
去當國防部長的樣子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].start |
25165.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].end |
25167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].text |
任何只要看過好萊塢電影的都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].start |
25167.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].end |
25169.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].text |
戰備儲存怎麼可能不分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].start |
25170.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].end |
25172.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].text |
至於單一儲存存量 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].start |
25172.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].end |
25174.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].text |
不得超過總戰備存量的25% |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].start |
25174.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].end |
25176.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].text |
我就不曉得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].start |
25176.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].end |
25178.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].text |
1%是怎麼推算出來的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].start |
25178.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].end |
25180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].text |
第一個條文喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].start |
25180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].end |
25182.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].text |
要訂定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].start |
25182.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].end |
25184.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].text |
主要能夠明確可以執行之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].start |
25184.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].end |
25186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].text |
要告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].start |
25186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].end |
25188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].text |
那為什麼不是1% |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].start |
25188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].end |
25190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].text |
為什麼不是1% |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].start |
25190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].end |
25192.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].text |
為什麼是1% |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].start |
25188.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].end |
25190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].text |
無人載具第三款無人載具操作及指揮系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].start |
25190.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].end |
25192.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].text |
因建立分散式備援架構 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].start |
25192.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].end |
25194.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].text |
從頭到尾都是分散分散再分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].start |
25196.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].end |
25198.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].text |
確保單點施效不致癱瘓整體作戰能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].start |
25199.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].end |
25201.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].text |
這個有需要寫嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].start |
25201.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].end |
25203.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].text |
哪一個人當國防部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].start |
25203.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].end |
25205.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].text |
會去把無人載具做集中式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].start |
25205.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].end |
25207.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].text |
缺乏韌性的分布 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].start |
25207.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].end |
25209.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].text |
所以這個好比在我們挑溫協啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].start |
25209.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].end |
25211.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].text |
本預算之執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].start |
25211.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].end |
25213.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].text |
必須太陽從東邊升起來才可以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].start |
25213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].end |
25215.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].text |
太陽從東邊升起來不就是我本來就應該如此的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].start |
25215.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].end |
25217.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].text |
還需要你挑溫協 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].start |
25217.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].end |
25219.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].text |
本預..本..本條例之執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].start |
25219.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].end |
25221.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].text |
必須是太陽從東邊升起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].start |
25223.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].end |
25225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].text |
所以我們是覺得今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].start |
25225.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].end |
25227.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].text |
好我們來一度懷疑說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].start |
25227.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].end |
25229.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].text |
這個賴委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].start |
25229.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].end |
25231.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].text |
A版的部分感覺上之前前幾條看起來有點道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].start |
25231.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].end |
25233.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].text |
到國民黨的版本終於知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].start |
25233.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].end |
25235.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].text |
為什麼國民黨黨團版本出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].start |
25235.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].end |
25237.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].text |
要趕快由賴斯堡委員推出AV兩版 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].start |
25237.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].end |
25239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].text |
因為國民黨黨團版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].start |
25239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].end |
25241.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].text |
說的也是一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].start |
25244.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].end |
25246.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].text |
出師表啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].start |
25246.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].end |
25248.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].text |
靈表剔氣不知所云啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].start |
25248.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].end |
25250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].text |
寫這些理所當然的事情放在條文裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].start |
25250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].end |
25252.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].text |
你一個主決意就可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].start |
25252.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].end |
25254.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].text |
立法院常常這種主決意啊理所當然的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].start |
25254.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].end |
25256.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].text |
再重申一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].start |
25256.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].end |
25258.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].text |
放在條文完全沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].start |
25258.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].end |
25260.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].text |
本席建議這第五條根本拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].start |
25261.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].end |
25263.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].text |
來賴斯堡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].start |
25265.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].end |
25267.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].text |
我再回過來我覺得我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].start |
25267.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].end |
25269.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].text |
憲政大家能夠坐在這裡就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].start |
25269.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].end |
25271.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].text |
我們的憲法給我們這樣的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].start |
25271.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].end |
25273.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].text |
我們職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].start |
25273.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].end |
25275.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].text |
就是來監督行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].start |
25275.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].end |
25277.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].text |
所以我就請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].start |
25277.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].end |
25279.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].text |
我覺得這個答案不是叫國民黨團來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].start |
25279.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].end |
25281.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].text |
國民黨團提案已經寫出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].start |
25281.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].end |
25283.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].text |
不是叫我們回答我們沒有當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].start |
25283.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].end |
25285.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].text |
請顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].start |
25285.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].end |
25287.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].text |
表達意見第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].start |
25287.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].end |
25289.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].text |
你能不能夠接受你告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].start |
25289.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].end |
25291.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].text |
Yes No 就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].start |
25291.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].end |
25293.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].text |
你可以接受我們就過不能接受我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].start |
25293.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].end |
25295.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].text |
就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].start |
25295.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].end |
25297.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].text |
太陽從後面升出來你能不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].start |
25297.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].end |
25299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].text |
太陽從後面升出來你能不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].start |
25299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].end |
25301.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].text |
國民黨團要具體報復主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].start |
25301.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].end |
25303.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].text |
我具體要求顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].start |
25303.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].end |
25305.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].text |
要跟我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].start |
25305.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].end |
25307.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].text |
你的國民黨團立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].start |
25307.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].end |
25309.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].text |
可以接受國民黨團第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].start |
25309.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].end |
25311.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].start |
25310.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].end |
25312.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].start |
25317.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].end |
25319.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].text |
主席 各位委員我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].start |
25319.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].end |
25321.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].text |
條文不是我們國防部定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].start |
25321.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].end |
25323.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].text |
我只是提出我個人從物資上看的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].start |
25323.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].end |
25325.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].text |
一些疑點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].start |
25325.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].end |
25327.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].text |
第一點就是說無人載具包含的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].start |
25327.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].end |
25329.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].text |
甚廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].start |
25328.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].end |
25330.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].text |
生產基地指的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].start |
25331.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].end |
25333.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].text |
是指每個關鍵的零組件的生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].start |
25333.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].end |
25335.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].text |
還是整機的生產 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].start |
25335.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].end |
25337.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].text |
那還有所有的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].start |
25337.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].end |
25339.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].text |
無人載具那個範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].start |
25339.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].end |
25341.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].text |
這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].start |
25341.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].end |
25343.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].text |
那這個所謂的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].start |
25343.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].end |
25345.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].text |
是指單一的無人載具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].start |
25345.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].end |
25347.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].text |
還是指每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].start |
25347.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].end |
25349.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].text |
項目的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].start |
25349.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].end |
25351.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].text |
我並不是瞭解他的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].start |
25351.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].end |
25353.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].text |
那第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].start |
25353.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].end |
25355.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].text |
無人載具的戰備儲存 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].start |
25355.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].end |
25357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].text |
有關於單一據點的儲存量不可以超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].start |
25357.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].end |
25361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].text |
我個人覺得我們戰備的這個儲存量 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].start |
25361.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].end |
25363.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].text |
要多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].start |
25363.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].end |
25365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].text |
這個我們不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].start |
25367.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].end |
25369.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].text |
在立法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].start |
25370.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].end |
25372.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].text |
公開的來對我們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].start |
25372.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].end |
25374.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].text |
任何有關我們相關部署 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].start |
25374.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].end |
25376.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].text |
上面的一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].start |
25376.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].end |
25378.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].text |
我們的我們應該要怎麼樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].start |
25378.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].end |
25380.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].text |
一個部署我們國防部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].start |
25380.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].end |
25382.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].text |
本以我們的專業來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].start |
25382.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].end |
25384.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].text |
那至於無人載具是操作指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].start |
25386.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].end |
25388.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].text |
及指揮系統應建立什麼什麼什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].start |
25388.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].end |
25390.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].text |
確保單年我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].start |
25390.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].end |
25392.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].text |
這樣子的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].start |
25393.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].end |
25395.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].text |
我必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].start |
25395.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].end |
25397.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].text |
這個有規範跟沒規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].start |
25398.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].end |
25400.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].text |
沒有規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].start |
25399.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].end |
25401.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].text |
跟有規範的意義在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].start |
25401.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].end |
25403.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].start |
25403.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].end |
25405.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].text |
就我來看任何的條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].start |
25405.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].end |
25407.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].text |
任何的立法都要有其 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].start |
25407.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].end |
25409.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].text |
規範的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].start |
25409.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].end |
25411.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].text |
的規範性的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].start |
25411.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].end |
25413.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].text |
那我沒有辦法能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].start |
25413.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].end |
25415.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].text |
這些規範的目的的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].start |
25415.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].end |
25417.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].text |
是在什麼地方我沒有辦法能夠理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].start |
25420.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].end |
25422.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].start |
25422.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].end |
25424.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].text |
好所以部長應該也沒辦法確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].start |
25427.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].end |
25429.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].start |
25430.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].end |
25432.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].text |
主席我其實針對第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].start |
25432.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].end |
25434.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].text |
認為有疑義的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].start |
25434.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].end |
25436.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].text |
是在於基於國安 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].start |
25436.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].end |
25438.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].text |
的需求喔我們這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].start |
25438.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].end |
25440.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].text |
無人載具現在國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].start |
25440.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].end |
25442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].text |
提出來的是要求分佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].start |
25442.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].end |
25444.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].text |
至少三個不同的縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].start |
25444.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].end |
25446.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].text |
然後不得集中於單一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].start |
25446.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].end |
25448.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].text |
的區域首先呢就像 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].start |
25448.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].end |
25450.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].text |
剛剛顧部長提到的無人載具是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].start |
25450.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].end |
25452.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].text |
指無人機無人艇 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].start |
25452.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].end |
25454.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].text |
啊等等的全部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].start |
25454.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].end |
25456.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].text |
那你 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].start |
25455.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].end |
25457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].text |
無人機無人艇或等等你說不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].start |
25457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].end |
25459.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].text |
應分佈於至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].start |
25459.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].end |
25461.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].text |
三個不同的縣市喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].start |
25461.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].end |
25463.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].text |
那我們都知道其實很多我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].start |
25463.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].end |
25465.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].text |
國防的設備跟布點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].start |
25465.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].end |
25467.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].text |
其實這是國家機密吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].start |
25467.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].end |
25469.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].text |
如果說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].start |
25469.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].end |
25471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].text |
因為這一條訂定了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].start |
25471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].end |
25473.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].text |
那是不是要到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].start |
25473.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].end |
25475.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].text |
說明公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].start |
25475.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].end |
25477.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].text |
那這可不是大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].start |
25477.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].end |
25479.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].text |
大大的跟我們的敵國 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].start |
25479.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].end |
25481.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].text |
告訴他說我這邊有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].start |
25481.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].end |
25483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].text |
無人機喔而且有什麼樣的無人機喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].start |
25483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].end |
25485.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].text |
我這邊有無人艦喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].start |
25485.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].end |
25487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].text |
然後我分佈在什麼樣的地方喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].start |
25487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].end |
25489.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].text |
然後我現在這個所謂無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].start |
25491.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].end |
25493.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].text |
載具的所謂儲存 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].start |
25493.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].end |
25495.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].text |
那他說不可以在同樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].start |
25495.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].end |
25497.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].text |
據點嘛單一又 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].start |
25497.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].end |
25499.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].text |
存量不可以超過25% |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].start |
25499.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].end |
25501.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].text |
那為了驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].start |
25501.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].end |
25503.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].text |
是不是有欺騙國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].start |
25503.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].end |
25505.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].text |
然後國會的立法所以要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].start |
25505.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].end |
25507.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].text |
顧部長來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].start |
25507.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].end |
25509.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].text |
所以這不是把我們的戰力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].start |
25509.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].end |
25511.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].text |
分佈點以及他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].start |
25512.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].end |
25514.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].text |
到底他的戰備在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].start |
25514.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].end |
25516.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].text |
啊不都見光被看到了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].start |
25516.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].end |
25518.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].text |
但是我們也知道我們因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[9598].start |
25518.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9598].end |
25520.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9598].text |
國防需求我們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].start |
25520.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].end |
25522.28 |
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地方的布點他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].start |
25522.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].end |
25524.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].text |
第一線面對的壓力很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].start |
25524.28 |
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25526.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].text |
所以他可能會密集度高一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].start |
25526.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].end |
25528.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].text |
那有一些地方可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].start |
25528.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].end |
25530.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].text |
他因為地形的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].start |
25530.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].end |
25532.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].text |
可能會有一些天然的屏障 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].start |
25532.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].end |
25534.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].text |
他的密集度可能會低一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].start |
25534.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].end |
25536.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].text |
那因為現在有一個25% |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].start |
25536.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].end |
25538.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].text |
在這裡我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].start |
25538.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].end |
25540.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].text |
這樣子合理嗎我真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].start |
25540.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].end |
25542.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].text |
在一個國防委員的立場我認為這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].start |
25542.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].end |
25544.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].text |
的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].start |
25545.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].end |
25547.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].text |
看似要均衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].start |
25547.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].end |
25549.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].text |
發展但事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].start |
25549.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].end |
25551.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].text |
是不是在幫中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].start |
25551.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].end |
25553.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].text |
或我們的敵國來對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].start |
25553.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].end |
25555.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].text |
洩密這是會有強烈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].start |
25555.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].end |
25557.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].text |
我認為國安上面的危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].start |
25557.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].end |
25559.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].text |
所以我覺得萬萬不可這不 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].start |
25559.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].end |
25561.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].text |
應該是保留啊這應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].start |
25561.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].end |
25563.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].text |
就是直接讓他不要立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].start |
25563.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].end |
25565.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].text |
才對啊不然我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].start |
25565.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].end |
25567.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].text |
所有無人載具不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].start |
25567.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].end |
25569.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].text |
全都漏了嗎那這個到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].start |
25569.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].end |
25571.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].text |
為誰而立法我真的強烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].start |
25571.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].end |
25573.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].text |
的懷疑如果要過這一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].start |
25573.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].end |
25575.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].text |
條到底是中國叫你 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].start |
25575.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].end |
25577.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].text |
公佈這些東西還是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].start |
25577.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].end |
25579.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].text |
敵國要你幹這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].start |
25579.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].end |
25581.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].text |
為什麼要讓我們的國防全都漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].start |
25581.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].end |
25583.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].text |
你到底為誰而立法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].start |
25583.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].end |
25585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].text |
為了中華民國立法還是為了中華 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].start |
25585.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].end |
25587.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].text |
人民共和國立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].start |
25587.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].end |
25589.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].text |
造謠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].start |
25589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].end |
25591.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].start |
25591.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].end |
25593.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].start |
25593.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].end |
25595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].text |
你說我造謠那你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].start |
25595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].end |
25597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].text |
是不是就向國防全都漏你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].start |
25597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].end |
25599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].text |
真話25%是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].start |
25599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].end |
25601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].text |
國防部長他自然會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].start |
25601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].end |
25603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].text |
這不能公開他自然會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].start |
25603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].end |
25605.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].text |
這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].start |
25604.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].end |
25606.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].text |
你現在立法叫他不能公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].start |
25606.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].end |
25608.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].text |
你是要他公然違法是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].start |
25608.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].end |
25610.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].text |
你現在腳在哪個地方啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].start |
25610.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].end |
25612.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].text |
你這什麼意思啊我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].start |
25612.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].end |
25614.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].text |
你才是遊愛國安的你到底是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].start |
25614.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].end |
25616.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].text |
中華人民共和國派來的是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].start |
25616.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].end |
25618.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].text |
你領誰的薪水啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].start |
25618.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].end |
25620.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].text |
這裡面是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].start |
25620.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].end |
25622.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].start |
25622.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].end |
25624.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].start |
25624.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].end |
25626.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].start |
25626.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].end |
25628.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].start |
25628.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].end |
25630.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].start |
25630.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].end |
25632.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].start |
25632.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].end |
25634.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].start |
25634.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].end |
25636.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].start |
25636.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].end |
25638.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].start |
25638.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].end |
25640.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].start |
25640.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].end |
25642.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].start |
25642.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].end |
25644.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].start |
25644.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].end |
25646.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].start |
25646.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].end |
25648.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].text |
你發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].start |
25627.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].end |
25629.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].text |
你今天上我們國防部的今天前線 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].start |
25629.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].end |
25631.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].text |
你幹嘛回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].start |
25631.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].end |
25633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].text |
我告訴你你自己戴著頭上包好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].start |
25633.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].end |
25635.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].text |
只會抹紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].start |
25635.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].end |
25637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].text |
還穿得這麼紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].start |
25637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].end |
25639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].text |
來先休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].start |
25639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].end |
25641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].text |
我穿的紅但是我不像 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].start |
25641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].end |
25643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].text |
我當時還民共和國的民間委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].start |
25643.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].end |
25645.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].text |
你會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].start |
25645.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].end |
25647.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].text |
你會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].start |
25647.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].end |
25649.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].text |
你現在聽到紅了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].start |
25650.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].end |
25652.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].text |
謝謝三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].start |
25656.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].end |
25658.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].text |
謝謝三分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].start |
25659.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].end |
25661.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].text |
我穿一身紅怕人家抹紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].start |
25661.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].end |
25663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].text |
我穿一身紅怕人家抹紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].start |
25663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].end |
25665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].text |
因為我效忠於我的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].start |
25665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].end |
25667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].text |
不像你你敢穿紅的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].start |
25667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].end |
25669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].text |
你根本就在你頭上擴紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].start |
25680.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].end |
25682.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].text |
下一條更誇張 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].start |
25682.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].end |
25684.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].text |
對呀 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].start |
25684.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].end |
25686.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].text |
這種立法品質實在是不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].start |
25692.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].end |
25694.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].text |
不省不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].start |
25718.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].end |
25720.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].start |
25725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].end |
25727.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].text |
德文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].start |
25727.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].end |
25729.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].text |
德 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].start |
25729.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].end |
25731.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].text |
目的是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].start |
25731.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].end |
25733.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].text |
自我形成道德 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].start |
25733.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].end |
25735.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].text |
跟英不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].start |
25735.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].end |
25737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].text |
德 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].start |
25748.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].end |
25750.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].text |
因為這樣就是會2027 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].start |
25751.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].end |
25753.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].start |
25753.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].end |
25755.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].start |
25755.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].end |
25757.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].start |
25757.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].end |
25759.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].start |
25759.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].end |
25761.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].start |
25761.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].end |
25763.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].start |
25763.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].end |
25765.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].start |
25765.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].end |
25767.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].start |
25767.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].end |
25769.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].start |
25769.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].end |
25771.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].start |
25771.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].end |
25773.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].start |
25773.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].end |
25775.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].start |
25775.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].end |
25777.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].start |
25777.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].end |
25779.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].start |
25752.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].end |
25754.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].start |
25754.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].end |
25756.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].start |
25756.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].end |
25758.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].start |
25758.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].end |
25760.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].start |
25760.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].end |
25762.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].start |
25762.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].end |
25764.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].start |
25764.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].end |
25766.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].start |
25766.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].end |
25768.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].start |
25768.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].end |
25770.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].start |
25770.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].end |
25772.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].start |
25772.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].end |
25774.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].start |
25774.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].end |
25776.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].start |
25776.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].end |
25778.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].start |
25778.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].end |
25780.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].start |
25756.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].end |
25758.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].text |
你會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].start |
25761.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].end |
25763.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].start |
25764.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].end |
25766.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].text |
一次就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].start |
25774.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].end |
25776.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].start |
25779.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].end |
25781.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].text |
很特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].start |
25781.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].end |
25783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].text |
很特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].start |
25783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].end |
25785.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].text |
很特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].start |
25785.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].end |
25787.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].text |
很特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].start |
25787.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].end |
25789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].text |
一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].start |
25790.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].end |
25792.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].start |
25792.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].end |
25794.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].text |
因為我們這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].start |
25793.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].end |
25795.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].text |
大概他們撐不了一個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].start |
25795.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].end |
25797.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].text |
他們大概撐不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].start |
25797.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].end |
25799.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].text |
館長撐不了一個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].start |
25799.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].end |
25801.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].text |
你看志偉有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].start |
25801.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].end |
25803.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].text |
馬上要那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].start |
25803.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].end |
25805.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].text |
但是我5點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].start |
25805.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].end |
25807.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].start |
25807.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].end |
25809.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].text |
5點可以刷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].start |
25808.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].end |
25810.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].text |
4點可以刷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].start |
25810.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].end |
25812.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].text |
4點可以刷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].start |
25813.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].end |
25815.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].text |
4點可以刷嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].start |
25816.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].end |
25818.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].text |
4點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].start |
25821.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].end |
25823.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].text |
4點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].start |
25826.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].end |
25828.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].text |
你的狗叫太大聲了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].start |
25828.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].end |
25830.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].text |
你的狗叫太大聲了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].start |
25830.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].end |
25832.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].text |
你的狗叫太大聲了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].start |
25835 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].end |
25837 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].start |
25857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].end |
25859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].start |
25860.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].end |
25862.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].start |
25862.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].end |
25864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].start |
25864.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].end |
25866.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].start |
25866.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].end |
25868.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].text |
好等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].start |
25872.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].end |
25874.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].start |
25875.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].end |
25877.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].start |
25883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].end |
25885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].text |
好啦我就覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].start |
25885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].end |
25887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].text |
他們也無心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].start |
25887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].end |
25889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].text |
無心要出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].start |
25889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].end |
25891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].text |
就把他念完每個都跟他反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].start |
25891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].end |
25893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].text |
就這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].start |
25893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].end |
25895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].text |
最後只能有一個條碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].start |
25895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].end |
25897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].text |
我們只要互遞心講就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].start |
25898.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].end |
25900.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].text |
我們現在把東西調退一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].start |
25909.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].end |
25911.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].text |
好根據剛剛的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].start |
25911.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].end |
25913.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].text |
國民黨黨同提案的第5條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].start |
25913.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].end |
25915.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].text |
看起來是沒有達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].start |
25915.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].end |
25917.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].text |
所以我們也是先於保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].start |
25920 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].end |
25922 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].text |
那接下來我們一併討論的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].start |
25922 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].end |
25924 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].text |
國民黨團提案第6條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].start |
25924 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].end |
25926 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].start |
25926 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].end |
25928 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].text |
賴氏保委員的第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].start |
25928 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].end |
25930 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].text |
宗家兵委員第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].start |
25930 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].end |
25932 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].text |
以及王定宇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].start |
25932 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].end |
25934 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].text |
提案的第11條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].start |
25934 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].end |
25936 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].text |
主要這邊大概就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].start |
25936 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].end |
25938 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].text |
針對這個測試的一個場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].start |
25938 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].end |
25940 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].text |
針對這個測試的一個場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].start |
25940 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].end |
25942 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].text |
針對這個測試的一個場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].start |
25942 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].end |
25944 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].text |
那麼請經濟部跟國防部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].start |
25944 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].end |
25946 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].text |
那麼請經濟部跟國防部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].start |
25948.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].end |
25950.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].text |
就這些版本的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].start |
25951.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].end |
25953.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].start |
25952.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].end |
25954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].text |
可不可行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].start |
25954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].end |
25956.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].text |
那個等一下對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].start |
25956.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].end |
25958.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].text |
國民黨的第6條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].start |
25958.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].end |
25960.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].text |
因為他談的是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].start |
25960.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].end |
25962.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].text |
要去設立測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].start |
25962.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].end |
25964.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].text |
所以應該是要請國防部回答才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].start |
25964.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].end |
25966.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].text |
這跟經濟部沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].start |
25966.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].end |
25968.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].text |
因為我們的版本就是經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].start |
25968.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].end |
25970.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].text |
就國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].start |
25972.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].end |
25976.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].text |
規劃無人機的測試場域是經濟部規劃嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].start |
25976.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].end |
25978.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].text |
對啊我們這邊是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].start |
25978.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].end |
25980.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].text |
應該是交通部也有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].start |
25981.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].end |
25983.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].text |
那交通部有來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].start |
25983.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].end |
25985.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].text |
我是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].start |
25985.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].end |
25987.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].text |
我是不是要說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].start |
25987.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].end |
25989.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].text |
就是說有關剛提到這幾條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].start |
25989.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].end |
25991.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].text |
事實上在我們的無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].start |
25991.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].end |
25993.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].text |
事實上在我們的無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].start |
25993.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].end |
25995.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].text |
發展統籌型計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].start |
25995.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].end |
25997.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].text |
都已經有納進來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].start |
25997.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].end |
25999.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].text |
那目前也已經有盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].start |
25999.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].end |
26001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].text |
多處無人載具的測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].start |
26001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].end |
26003.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].text |
那後續是由交通部跟國防部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].start |
26003.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].end |
26005.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].text |
按照最新的盤點的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].start |
26005.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].end |
26007.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].text |
跟場域的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].start |
26007.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].end |
26009.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].text |
還有實際的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].start |
26009.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].end |
26011.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].text |
持續來規劃建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].start |
26011.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].end |
26013.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].text |
那這個部分其實行政院副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].start |
26013.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].end |
26015.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].text |
也有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].start |
26015.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].end |
26017.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].text |
這個跨部會的一個專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].start |
26017.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].end |
26019.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].text |
會議來統籌協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].start |
26019.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].end |
26021.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].start |
26021.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].end |
26023.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].text |
目前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].start |
26023.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].end |
26025.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].text |
既然已經有這樣的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].start |
26025.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].end |
26027.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].text |
然後再加上說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].start |
26027.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].end |
26029.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].text |
目前我們還有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].start |
26029.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].end |
26031.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].text |
無人載具科技創新實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].start |
26031.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].end |
26033.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].text |
也可以來提供監理殺核 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].start |
26033.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].end |
26035.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].start |
26035.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].end |
26037.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].text |
如果業界有需要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].start |
26037.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].end |
26039.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].text |
也可以來跟經濟部這邊來申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].start |
26039.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].end |
26041.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].text |
那我們會做跨部會的一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].start |
26041.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].end |
26043.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].text |
那等於核准期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].start |
26043.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].end |
26045.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].text |
及場域內來適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].start |
26045.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].end |
26047.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].text |
經核准的這個法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].start |
26047.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].end |
26049.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].text |
調試 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].start |
26049.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].end |
26051.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].text |
那如果有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].start |
26051.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].end |
26053.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].text |
另外立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].start |
26053.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].end |
26055.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].start |
26058.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].end |
26060.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].text |
好 國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].start |
26064.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].end |
26066.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].text |
主席 各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].start |
26066.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].end |
26068.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].text |
那個我想第一個國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].start |
26068.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].end |
26070.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].text |
提案的說國防部要會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].start |
26070.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].end |
26072.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].text |
地方政府 我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].start |
26072.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].end |
26074.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].text |
就這個部分我們難以想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].start |
26074.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].end |
26076.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].text |
就是說國防部有任何的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].start |
26076.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].end |
26078.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].text |
可以來就這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].start |
26078.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].end |
26080.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].text |
涉及到跨中央各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].start |
26080.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].end |
26082.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].text |
的這個部分單純 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].start |
26082.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].end |
26084.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].text |
由國防部來會同地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].start |
26084.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].end |
26086.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].text |
來就本條例第五條所定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].start |
26086.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].end |
26088.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].text |
不同地理區域來規劃至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].start |
26088.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].end |
26090.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].text |
三處經用共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].start |
26090.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].end |
26092.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].text |
共用測試的這個場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].start |
26092.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].end |
26094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].text |
沒有 我想這涉及到相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].start |
26094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].end |
26096.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].text |
多的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].start |
26096.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].end |
26098.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].text |
這是行政院層級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].start |
26098.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].end |
26100.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].text |
部分不可能由國防部直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].start |
26100.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].end |
26102.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].text |
跟地方政府來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].start |
26102.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].end |
26104.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].text |
那有關這個民眾黨團所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].start |
26104.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].end |
26106.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].text |
國防部應盤點適當軍事演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].start |
26106.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].end |
26108.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].text |
或軍事線作為軍用無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].start |
26108.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].end |
26110.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].text |
系統專門測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].start |
26110.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].end |
26112.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].text |
我想這個部分如果說是國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].start |
26112.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].end |
26114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].text |
專門作為軍用測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].start |
26114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].end |
26116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].text |
我認為也不以立法的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].start |
26116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].end |
26118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].text |
來覓定在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].start |
26118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].end |
26120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].text |
這個是並不適當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].start |
26120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].end |
26122.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].text |
立法的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].start |
26123.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].end |
26125.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].text |
國防部就表示意見到這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].start |
26127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].end |
26129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].start |
26129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].end |
26131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].text |
請中央辯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].start |
26131.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].end |
26133.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].text |
主席我們現在看到條文最大表第16、17了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].start |
26133.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].end |
26135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].text |
我真的也是很 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].start |
26135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].end |
26137.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].text |
訝異 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].start |
26137.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].end |
26139.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].text |
我的版本第12條的測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].start |
26139.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].end |
26141.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].text |
居然跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].start |
26140.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].end |
26142.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].text |
國民黨的第6條和民眾黨的第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].start |
26142.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].end |
26144.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].text |
放在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].start |
26144.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].end |
26146.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].text |
其實內容是大相徑庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].start |
26146.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].end |
26148.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].text |
剛剛邱委員問我說這個測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].start |
26148.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].end |
26150.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].text |
你怎麼有測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].start |
26150.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].end |
26152.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].text |
這就是主席在上午的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].start |
26152.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].end |
26154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].text |
並沒有做分流的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].start |
26154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].end |
26156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].text |
我是第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].start |
26156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].end |
26158.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].text |
但是第12條第一項就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].start |
26158.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].end |
26160.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].text |
委員會因會同相關目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].start |
26160.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].end |
26162.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].text |
與本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].start |
26162.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].end |
26164.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].text |
施行期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].start |
26164.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].end |
26166.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].text |
好 什麼委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].start |
26166.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].end |
26168.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].text |
沒天沒老的蹦出來一個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].start |
26168.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].end |
26170.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].text |
我剛剛不小心剛剛部部長把這個委員會說成是以為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].start |
26170.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].end |
26172.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].text |
我要求國防部做這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].start |
26172.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].end |
26174.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].text |
沒有 這個委員會要看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].start |
26174.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].end |
26176.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].text |
我的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].start |
26176.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].end |
26178.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].text |
條文對到第28條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].start |
26178.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].end |
26180.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].text |
我的條文第三條就寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].start |
26180.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].end |
26182.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].text |
行政院因設無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].start |
26182.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].end |
26184.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].text |
載具自主發展委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].start |
26184.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].end |
26186.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].text |
簡稱委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].start |
26186.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].end |
26188.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].text |
你總不能簡稱無人委員會吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].start |
26188.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].end |
26190.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].text |
無人委員會就沒有人來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].start |
26190.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].end |
26192.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].text |
簡稱委員會 這個委員會統籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].start |
26192.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].end |
26194.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].text |
協調無人載具產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].start |
26194.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].end |
26196.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].text |
採購及本條例之相關政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].start |
26196.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].end |
26198.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].text |
協調這些政策計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].start |
26198.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].end |
26200.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].text |
以及跨機關事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].start |
26200.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].end |
26202.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].text |
並就各機關推動進行管考 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].start |
26202.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].end |
26204.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].text |
它就像是一個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].start |
26204.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].end |
26206.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].text |
層級的這個專案小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].start |
26206.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].end |
26208.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].text |
只是說有條文明文規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].start |
26209.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].end |
26211.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].text |
訂定這樣的一個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].start |
26211.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].end |
26213.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].text |
委員會之組成任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].start |
26213.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].end |
26215.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].text |
運作方式及利益回避 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].start |
26215.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].end |
26217.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].text |
看到沒有 保密義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].start |
26217.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].end |
26219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].text |
國家安全查核機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].start |
26219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].end |
26221.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].text |
由行政院另以辦法定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].start |
26221.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].end |
26223.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].text |
本席的版本很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].start |
26224.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].end |
26226.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].text |
本席的版本不只是支持行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].start |
26226.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].end |
26228.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].text |
那三款無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].start |
26228.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].end |
26230.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].text |
兩千一百億的特別預算採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].start |
26230.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].end |
26232.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].text |
本席的版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].start |
26232.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].end |
26234.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].text |
也認為行政院應該有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].start |
26234.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].end |
26236.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].text |
中央層級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].start |
26236.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].end |
26238.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].text |
行政院層級的協調機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].start |
26238.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].end |
26240.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].text |
這個委員會要做什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].start |
26240.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].end |
26242.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].text |
這個委員會要做的事情就在我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].start |
26242.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].end |
26244.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].text |
目前條文對照表第十六頁的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].start |
26244.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].end |
26246.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].text |
第十二條的測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].start |
26246.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].end |
26248.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].text |
這個測試場域看起來也在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].start |
26248.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].end |
26250.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].text |
跟國民黨的第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].start |
26250.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].end |
26252.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].text |
民主黨的第五條 第七條也很像 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].start |
26252.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].end |
26254.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].text |
他這裡寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].start |
26254.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].end |
26256.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].text |
委員會應該要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].start |
26256.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].end |
26258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].text |
積極的化設或指定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].start |
26258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].end |
26260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].text |
無人載具專屬的入獄水域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].start |
26260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].end |
26262.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].text |
及空域的實證測試場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].start |
26264.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].end |
26266.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].text |
為什麼 因為目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].start |
26266.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].end |
26268.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].text |
我們無人載具產業他們遇到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].start |
26268.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].end |
26270.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].text |
很多水域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].start |
26270.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].end |
26272.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].text |
有航空法 空域有航空法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].start |
26272.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].end |
26274.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].text |
入獄還有所謂的道恩條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].start |
26274.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].end |
26276.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].text |
這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].start |
26276.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].end |
26278.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].text |
那前項的測試第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].start |
26278.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].end |
26280.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].text |
我的第二項寫前項的測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].start |
26280.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].end |
26282.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].text |
得跨越二以上直轄 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].start |
26282.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].end |
26284.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].text |
市縣市行政區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].start |
26284.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].end |
26286.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].text |
或其鄰接的海域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].start |
26286.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].end |
26288.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].text |
我跟大家報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].start |
26288.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].end |
26290.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].text |
目前長城的無人載具如果從 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].start |
26290.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].end |
26292.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].text |
路上要飛到海上他有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].start |
26292.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].end |
26294.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].text |
所以我們高屏西 高雄跟屏東 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].start |
26294.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].end |
26296.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].text |
他的空域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].start |
26296.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].end |
26298.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].text |
目前如果是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].start |
26298.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].end |
26300.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].text |
民用的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].start |
26300.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].end |
26302.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].text |
是屬於農噴機也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].start |
26302.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].end |
26304.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].text |
空拍機也好 分別由高雄市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].start |
26304.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].end |
26306.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].text |
跟屏東市政府來核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].start |
26306.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].end |
26308.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].text |
那我一個高屏西上的空域到底是要跟誰申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].start |
26308.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].end |
26310.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].text |
我跨兩個縣市我要跟誰申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].start |
26310.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].end |
26312.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].text |
這都是目前產業界遇到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].start |
26312.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].end |
26314.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].text |
所以我們才認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].start |
26314.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].end |
26316.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].text |
為了發展無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].start |
26316.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].end |
26318.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].text |
像這樣的測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].start |
26318.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].end |
26320.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].text |
不管是入海空 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].start |
26320.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].end |
26322.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].text |
我們應該有一個行政院層級的協調機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].start |
26322.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].end |
26324.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].text |
來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].start |
26324.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].end |
26326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].text |
就這樣的測試狼套來畫設 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].start |
26326.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].end |
26328.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].text |
而且這個委員會在畫設的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].start |
26328.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].end |
26330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].text |
他要去會商相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].start |
26330.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].end |
26332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].text |
地方政府是基於這樣的思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].start |
26332.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].end |
26334.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].text |
我們尊重現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].start |
26334.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].end |
26336.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].text |
民用航空法當中的無人機專章 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].start |
26336.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].end |
26338.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].text |
所設定的空域主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].start |
26338.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].end |
26340.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].text |
地方主管機關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].start |
26340.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].end |
26342.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].text |
權限我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].start |
26342.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].end |
26344.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].text |
不要受制於這個不然的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].start |
26344.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].end |
26346.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].text |
我從高屏西高雄管還是屏東管 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].start |
26346.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].end |
26348.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].text |
我從高屏西 |
| transcript.whisperx[9972].start |
26348.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9972].end |
26350.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9972].text |
出海口出到小琉球 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].start |
26350.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].end |
26352.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].text |
請問我出那個港面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].start |
26352.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].end |
26354.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].text |
我會經過什麼我會經過交通部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].start |
26354.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].end |
26356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].text |
那個航港局他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9976].start |
26356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9976].end |
26358.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9976].text |
管理的這個漁港交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].start |
26358.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].end |
26360.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].text |
港觀光港那我要不要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].start |
26360.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].end |
26362.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].text |
跟他申請所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].start |
26362.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].end |
26364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].text |
這個條文當中很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].start |
26364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].end |
26366.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].text |
的是在講測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].start |
26366.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].end |
26368.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].text |
需要有一個委員會行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].start |
26368.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].end |
26370.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].text |
層級的來協調各相關主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].start |
26370.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].end |
26372.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].text |
機關這是有實務上的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].start |
26372.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].end |
26374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].text |
但是我們看國民黨跟民主黨是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].start |
26374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].end |
26376.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].text |
他說國防部應會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].start |
26376.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].end |
26378.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].text |
剛剛顧問說了國防部要怎麼去會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].start |
26378.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].end |
26380.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].text |
而且是怎麼針對他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].start |
26380.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].end |
26382.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].text |
第五條所定的不同地理區域 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].start |
26382.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].end |
26384.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].text |
規劃至少三處的居民共用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].start |
26384.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].end |
26386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].text |
測試場所怎麼把 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].start |
26386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].end |
26388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].text |
這個測試場所的義務規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].start |
26388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].end |
26390.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].text |
給國防部按照第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].start |
26390.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].end |
26392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].text |
的方式來設置這根本就是莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].start |
26392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].end |
26394.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].text |
本末倒置的事情我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].start |
26394.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].end |
26396.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].text |
是要幫助產業解除智庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].start |
26396.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].end |
26398.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].text |
解除束縛不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].start |
26398.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].end |
26400.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].text |
莫名其妙要求國防部去做他跟他 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].start |
26400.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].end |
26402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].text |
一個戰備訓練無關的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].start |
26402.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].end |
26404.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].text |
所以國民黨這個版本跟本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].start |
26404.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].end |
26406.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].text |
的電視要看放在一起我真的覺得莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].start |
26407.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].end |
26409.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].text |
這就是因為我們版本沒有分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].start |
26409.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].end |
26411.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].text |
造成了本席的條文跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].start |
26411.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].end |
26413.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].text |
國民黨那個版本第五條的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].start |
26413.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].end |
26415.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].text |
串在一起我的應該跟第三條串 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].start |
26415.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].end |
26417.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].text |
在一起再來講民眾黨團好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].start |
26417.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].end |
26419.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].text |
也是一樣經濟部應會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].start |
26419.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].end |
26421.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].text |
同相關主管機關去劃設 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].start |
26421.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].end |
26423.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].text |
無人機測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].start |
26423.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].end |
26425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].text |
測試走廊及示範區好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].start |
26425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].end |
26427.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].text |
那怎麼做如果真的要認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].start |
26427.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].end |
26429.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].text |
來講本席的寫法很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].start |
26429.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].end |
26431.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].text |
現在遇到什麼問題遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].start |
26431.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].end |
26433.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].text |
跨入海空的問題遇到跨 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].start |
26433.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].end |
26435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].text |
縣市轄在區的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].start |
26435.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].end |
26437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].text |
這些才是真正問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].start |
26437.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].end |
26439.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].text |
那麼如果民眾黨的版本都要寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].start |
26439.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].end |
26441.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].text |
還不如用我的版本還有寫國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].start |
26441.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].end |
26443.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].text |
應盤點適當的軍事演習或軍事 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].start |
26443.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].end |
26445.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].text |
訓練場所作為軍用無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].start |
26445.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].end |
26447.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].text |
測試的系統的專門測試場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].start |
26447.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].end |
26449.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].text |
國防部要怎麼去測試他的軍用無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].start |
26449.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].end |
26451.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].text |
還要你立法給他全責嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].start |
26452.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].end |
26454.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].text |
還需要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].start |
26455.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].end |
26457.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].text |
我們都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].start |
26456.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].end |
26458.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].text |
我甚至有跟他們說好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].start |
26458.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].end |
26460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].text |
如果真的國防部要去測哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].start |
26460.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].end |
26462.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].text |
最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].start |
26461.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].end |
26463.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].text |
到菲律賓到蘇比克灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].start |
26463.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].end |
26465.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].start |
26465.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].end |
26467.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].text |
因為台灣的空域水域啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10031].start |
26467.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10031].end |
26469.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10031].text |
無線電池波訊號太複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[10032].start |
26469.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10032].end |
26471.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10032].text |
我們很難去測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].start |
26471.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].end |
26473.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].text |
要一個乾淨的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].start |
26473.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].end |
26475.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].text |
菲律賓哇海域很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].start |
26475.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].end |
26477.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].text |
我們乾脆到哪裡去測 |
| transcript.whisperx[10036].start |
26477.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10036].end |
26479.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10036].text |
到菲律賓去測 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].start |
26479.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].end |
26481.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].text |
那國防部到菲律賓去測 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].start |
26481.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].end |
26483.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].text |
還要你這個條例准他嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10039].start |
26481.21 |
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我們目前的國防戰備有他的高度機密性跟機動性 |
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26483.21 |
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26485.21 |
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你還把這個寫下來 |
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26485.21 |
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26487.21 |
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表面上是說國防 |
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26487.21 |
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26489.21 |
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國防部要匯同地方政府 |
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26491.21 |
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荒謬 |
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26491.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[10044].end |
26493.2 |
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民眾黨的版本說經濟部要匯同地方 |
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26493.2 |
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然後國防部呢 |
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26497.2 |
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還要演習場試運 |
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26497.2 |
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26499.2 |
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還要呢有這個部分的授權 |
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其實啊如果國防部 |
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26503.2 |
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真的需要他們在軍事要在 |
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26503.2 |
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26505.2 |
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基地條例裡面他們自然 |
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26505.2 |
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26507.2 |
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的去去籌措調度 |
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26507.2 |
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26509.2 |
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我們要解決的不是裝模作樣 |
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26509.2 |
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26511.2 |
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去限制我們的國防發展 |
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而是要真正的去讓產業 |
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它是目前遇到的限制得以排除 |
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26517.2 |
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所以我的條文是要 |
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26519.2 |
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排除現在的不當限制 |
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26521.2 |
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國眾兩黨呢是要額外加諸 |
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26523.2 |
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國防部在戰備訓練以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].start |
26523.2 |
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26525.2 |
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莫名其妙的任務 |
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26525.2 |
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26527.2 |
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我覺得呢是很大的差別不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].start |
26527.2 |
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26529.2 |
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本席反對國民黨跟民眾黨的版本 |
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26531.94 |
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26533.94 |
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前王安祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].start |
26533.94 |
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26535.94 |
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剛剛那個中委員說了說了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].start |
26535.94 |
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26537.94 |
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把國民黨跟民眾黨都混在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].start |
26537.94 |
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26539.94 |
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那我解釋一下民眾黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10067].start |
26539.94 |
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26541.94 |
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那第一項跟第二項 |
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26543.94 |
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基本上就是我們現在所謂的測試場域 |
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26545.94 |
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還有測試場域 |
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26547.94 |
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跟示範區的一個制度 |
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26547.94 |
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26549.94 |
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所以經濟部這邊 |
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26549.94 |
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26551.94 |
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剛剛次長也說了現在已經有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].start |
26551.94 |
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26553.94 |
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過去的一些斷地 |
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26555.94 |
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以供可以執行 |
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26555.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].end |
26557.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].text |
那國防部這邊我們寫的是盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].start |
26557.94 |
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26559.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].text |
盤點還有一些測試的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].start |
26559.94 |
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26561.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].text |
那中委員說了我覺得菲律賓也是非常好的一個場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].start |
26561.94 |
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26563.94 |
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我們只是說盤點而已 |
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26563.94 |
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26565.94 |
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沒有盤點而已啦 |
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26565.94 |
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26567.94 |
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那基本上剛剛中委員講到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].start |
26567.94 |
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26569.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].text |
我們都寫在第三項裡面 |
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26569.94 |
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26571.94 |
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也就是說如果在測試的時候 |
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26571.94 |
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26573.94 |
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會有一些法律上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].start |
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26575.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].text |
適用的問題 |
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26575.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].end |
26577.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].text |
所以中央疾管得排除或調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].start |
26577.94 |
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26579.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].text |
部分法規的限制 |
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26579.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].end |
26581.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].text |
所以剛剛中央疾管講了我們通通都在 |
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26581.94 |
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26583.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].text |
我們的第三項裡面 |
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26583.94 |
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26585.94 |
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而且我們也除了這個 |
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排除之外呢 |
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26587.94 |
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26589.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].text |
法規裡面還特別寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].start |
26589.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].end |
26591.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].text |
有關於飛行操作安全性能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].start |
26591.94 |
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26593.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].text |
回饋的一個機制 |
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26593.94 |
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26595.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].text |
那作為日後法規的修正 |
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26595.94 |
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26597.94 |
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或者是真正推動的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].start |
26601.33 |
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26603.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].start |
26603.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].end |
26605.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].text |
因為看起來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].start |
26605.33 |
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26607.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].text |
但是保安有沒有救你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].start |
26607.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].end |
26609.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].text |
OK好了 |
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26609.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10100].end |
26611.05 |
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我還是希望部長能夠表個態啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].start |
26611.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].end |
26613.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].text |
這個這一條 |
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26613.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].end |
26615.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].text |
什麼場域之類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].start |
26615.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].end |
26617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].text |
剛才美國部長中央病院 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].start |
26617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].end |
26619.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].text |
自己的血量落到一地 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].start |
26619.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].end |
26621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].text |
你比較一下跟民眾黨沒有差很多 |
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26621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].end |
26623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].text |
所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].start |
26625.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].end |
26627.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].text |
我覺得每一個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].start |
26627.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].end |
26629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].text |
因為我們都尊重每一個委員的提案 |
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26629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].end |
26631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].text |
不管你喜不喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].start |
26631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].end |
26633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].text |
尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].start |
26633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].end |
26635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].text |
然後提出來的話應該首先問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].start |
26635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].end |
26637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].text |
行政部門的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].start |
26637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].end |
26639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].text |
畢竟他大關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].start |
26639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].end |
26641.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].text |
我們先問一下可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].start |
26641.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].end |
26643.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].text |
部長要不要針對這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].start |
26643.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].end |
26645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].text |
有關於倡議的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].start |
26645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].end |
26647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].text |
有關於國民黨團、民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].start |
26647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].end |
26649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].text |
還有其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].start |
26649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].end |
26651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].text |
那麼你到底你的看法怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].start |
26651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].end |
26653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].text |
不要列你表示一些意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].start |
26655.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].end |
26657.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].start |
26656.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].end |
26658.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].text |
部長你要回答嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].start |
26660.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].end |
26662.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].text |
部長您回答之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].start |
26662.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].end |
26664.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].text |
他剛剛有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].start |
26664.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].end |
26666.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].text |
他前面有回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].start |
26667.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].end |
26669.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].text |
讓我收回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].start |
26669.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].end |
26671.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].text |
我只是講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].start |
26671.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].end |
26673.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].text |
比較一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].start |
26673.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].end |
26675.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].text |
你們現在中委一直罵民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].start |
26675.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].end |
26677.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].text |
你要看一下你們兩個人的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].start |
26677.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].end |
26679.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].text |
我看我老半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].start |
26679.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].end |
26681.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].text |
老實講沒有差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].start |
26682.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].end |
26684.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].text |
我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].start |
26684.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].end |
26686.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].text |
我請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].start |
26686.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].end |
26688.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].text |
我還是要請教一下顧部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].start |
26688.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].end |
26690.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].text |
國民黨團的提案寫了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].start |
26690.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].end |
26692.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].text |
要規劃至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].start |
26692.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].end |
26694.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].text |
三處軍民共用 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].start |
26694.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].end |
26696.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].text |
測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].start |
26696.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].end |
26698.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].text |
供軍方及民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].start |
26698.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].end |
26700.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].text |
業者共同使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].start |
26701.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].end |
26703.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].text |
請問那什麼叫軍民共用 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].start |
26703.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].end |
26705.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].text |
是軍為主、民為輔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].start |
26705.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].end |
26707.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].text |
還是民為主、軍為輔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].start |
26707.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].end |
26709.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].text |
然後這個測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].start |
26709.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].end |
26711.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].text |
還要進行無人載具的 |
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26711.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].end |
26713.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].text |
飛控、航空 |
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26713.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].end |
26715.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].text |
抗干擾跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].start |
26715.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].end |
26717.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].text |
作戰模擬測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].start |
26719.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].end |
26721.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].text |
就國防安全來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].start |
26721.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].end |
26723.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].text |
作戰模擬測試可以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].start |
26723.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].end |
26725.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].text |
民間業者的前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].start |
26725.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].end |
26727.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].text |
去做作戰模擬測試嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].start |
26729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].end |
26733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].text |
那特別寫作戰模擬測試的用意是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].start |
26734.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].end |
26736.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].text |
把它明定在你們的法條裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].start |
26736.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].end |
26738.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].text |
又要規劃三處的測試場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].start |
26738.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].end |
26740.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].text |
然後又把測試的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].start |
26742.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].end |
26744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].text |
跟對象都要把它寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].start |
26746.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].end |
26748.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].text |
為的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].start |
26748.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].end |
26750.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].text |
是要讓誰知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].start |
26749.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].end |
26751.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].text |
是要讓誰看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].start |
26751.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].end |
26753.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].text |
是要洩漏什麼樣的國家機密 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].start |
26753.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].end |
26755.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].text |
或者是欠著這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].start |
26755.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].end |
26757.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].text |
直接把國防安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].start |
26757.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].end |
26759.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].text |
直接洩漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].start |
26760.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].end |
26762.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].text |
寫這個法條的用意是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].start |
26762.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].end |
26764.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].text |
其實這個來問國防部長沒道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].start |
26764.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].end |
26766.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].text |
因為這法條不是他寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].start |
26766.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].end |
26768.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].text |
但是我問國民黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].start |
26768.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].end |
26770.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].text |
也問不出一個所以然來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].start |
26770.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].end |
26772.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].text |
因為你們這個法條也不知道從哪裡來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].start |
26772.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].end |
26774.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].text |
到底是不是你們自己寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].start |
26774.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].end |
26776.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].text |
不知道會不會是有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].start |
26776.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].end |
26778.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].text |
交給你們的我覺得這是大有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].start |
26778.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].end |
26780.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].text |
那有人交給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].start |
26780.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].end |
26782.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].text |
是誰交給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].start |
26783.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].end |
26785.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].text |
從哪裡來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].start |
26785.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].end |
26787.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].text |
為什麼寫這樣的法條內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].start |
26787.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].end |
26789.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].text |
這個大家就要好好的去探究一下了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].start |
26790.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].end |
26794.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].text |
特別把作戰模擬測試都寫進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].start |
26796.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].end |
26798.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].text |
這個大有文章啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].start |
26798.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].end |
26800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].text |
國民黨如果你願意說明的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].start |
26800.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].end |
26802.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].text |
我們其實很想聽聽你的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].start |
26808.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].end |
26810.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].start |
26809.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].end |
26811.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].text |
請說明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].start |
26811.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].end |
26813.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].text |
作戰模擬測試沒有辦法說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].start |
26813.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].end |
26815.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].text |
為什麼把他寫進法條裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].start |
26815.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].end |
26817.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].text |
不然這個法條文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].start |
26817.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].end |
26819.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].text |
從哪裡來的也可以說明一下吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].start |
26819.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].end |
26821.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].text |
你們哪一個法案助理寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].start |
26821.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].end |
26823.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].text |
還是這個是傅崑錡委員交給你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].start |
26823.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].end |
26825.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].text |
傅崑錡委員從哪裡拿來的這個文字內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10193].start |
26825.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10193].end |
26827.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10193].text |
是不是有特定人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[10194].start |
26831.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10194].end |
26833.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10194].text |
交代特定人士交給你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10195].start |
26833.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10195].end |
26835.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10195].text |
請說明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10196].start |
26835.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10196].end |
26837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10196].text |
能不能說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10197].start |
26837.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10197].end |
26839.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10197].text |
來叫審查法案是沒有意思的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10198].start |
26839.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10198].end |
26841.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10198].text |
請你看一下王定宇委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10199].start |
26842.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10199].end |
26847.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10199].text |
積極化設指定無人載具專屬的秘密學育空域 |
| transcript.whisperx[10200].start |
26847.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10200].end |
26849.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10200].text |
實證測試成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[10201].start |
26849.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10201].end |
26851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10201].text |
建設通訊導航 |
| transcript.whisperx[10202].start |
26851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10202].end |
26853.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10202].text |
他是誰寫的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10203].start |
26853.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10203].end |
26855.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10203].text |
是不是老公叫他寫的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10204].start |
26855.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10204].end |
26857.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10204].text |
我的降刑就沒有意義啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10205].start |
26857.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10205].end |
26859.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10205].text |
這樣罵就沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].start |
26859.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].end |
26861.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].text |
來行政部門來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10207].start |
26861.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10207].end |
26863.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10207].text |
你直接跳進來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10208].start |
26863.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10208].end |
26865.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10208].text |
我沒有說老公叫你寫的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10209].start |
26865.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10209].end |
26867.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10209].text |
直接就說是老公叫你寫的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10210].start |
26867.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10210].end |
26869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10210].text |
原來這個法條也是老公叫你們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10211].start |
26869.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10211].end |
26871.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10211].text |
感謝你寫答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10212].start |
26871.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10212].end |
26873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10212].text |
老公叫你寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10213].start |
26873.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10213].end |
26875.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10213].text |
老公今天叫求你寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10214].start |
26875.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10214].end |
26877.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10214].text |
你寫答案了我的一號 |
| transcript.whisperx[10215].start |
26877.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10215].end |
26879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10215].text |
法條是老公交給你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10216].start |
26879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10216].end |
26881.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10216].text |
沒有意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10217].start |
26881.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10217].end |
26883.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10217].text |
這是中國共產黨交給你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10218].start |
26883.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10218].end |
26885.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10218].text |
原來這就是老公交給你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].start |
26885.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].end |
26887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].text |
所以你們坐在牢裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10220].start |
26887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10220].end |
26889.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10220].text |
我寫錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].start |
26889.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].end |
26891.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].text |
我覺得是需要影響啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].start |
26893.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].end |
26895.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].text |
不該影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].start |
26895.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].end |
26897.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].text |
法條要針對行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[10224].start |
26897.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10224].end |
26899.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10224].text |
怎麼會針對立委提示攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10225].start |
26899.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10225].end |
26901.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10225].text |
這沒有意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].start |
26901.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].end |
26903.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].text |
今天是朝野寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].start |
26903.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].end |
26905.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].text |
今天不是蘇明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].start |
26905.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].end |
26907.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].text |
這是你們寫的我才跟你們提出詢問啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10229].start |
26907.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10229].end |
26909.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10229].text |
我也不知道是誰寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10230].start |
26909.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10230].end |
26911.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10230].text |
所以你們叫法條是哪裡來的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10231].start |
26911.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10231].end |
26913.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10231].text |
你們會寫作戰模擬嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].start |
26913.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].end |
26915.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].text |
請維持自信 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].start |
26915.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].end |
26917.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].start |
26917.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].end |
26919.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].text |
法條針對國民黨黨團第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10235].start |
26919.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10235].end |
26921.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10235].text |
台灣民進黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].start |
26921.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].end |
26923.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].text |
提案的第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].start |
26923.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].end |
26925.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].text |
委員賴氏堡提案第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].start |
26925.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].end |
26927.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].text |
中央辯提案第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].start |
26927.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].end |
26929.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].text |
王定宇提案第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].start |
26929.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].end |
26931.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].text |
我們全部又沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].start |
26931.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].end |
26933.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].text |
我們予以保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].start |
26936.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].end |
26938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].text |
接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].start |
26938.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].end |
26940.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].start |
26940.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].end |
26942.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].text |
接下來我們進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].start |
26942.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].end |
26944.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].text |
請你不要就直接跳過好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].start |
26944.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].end |
26946.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].text |
這是關乎國家安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].start |
26946.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].end |
26948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].text |
這是關乎國家安全非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].start |
26948.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].end |
26950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].text |
我們進行第20 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].start |
26950.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].end |
26952.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].text |
關乎國家安全非常重要的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].start |
26952.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].end |
26954.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].start |
26955.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].end |
26957.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].text |
接下來我們看第20頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].start |
26957.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].end |
26959.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].text |
進行國民黨黨團提案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].start |
26963.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].end |
26965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].text |
請經濟部跟國安部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].start |
26965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].end |
26967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].text |
就國產化這一條的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].start |
26967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].end |
26969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].text |
一見謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].start |
26974.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].end |
26976.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].text |
好跟聯席會議報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].start |
26976.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].end |
26978.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].start |
26979 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].end |
26981 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].text |
這一條經濟部的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].start |
26981 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].end |
26983 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].text |
我們認為無人機的種類 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].start |
26983 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].end |
26985 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].text |
相當多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].start |
26985 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].end |
26987 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].text |
各型載具的國產化比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].start |
26987 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].end |
26989 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].text |
各有不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].start |
26989 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].end |
26991 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].text |
而且國產化的條件 |
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26991 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].end |
26993 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].text |
還涉及到技術的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].start |
26993 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].end |
26995 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].text |
疊帶的速度還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].start |
26995 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].end |
26997 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].text |
市場等不確定的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].start |
26997 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].end |
26999 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].text |
如果以同一的標準 |
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26999 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].end |
27001 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].text |
用明定的比例方式 |
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27001 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].end |
27003 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].text |
來立法恐怕會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].start |
27003 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].end |
27005 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].text |
執行上的難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].start |
27004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].end |
27006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].text |
規劃過延 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].start |
27006.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].end |
27008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].text |
也會造成後續採購的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].start |
27008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].end |
27010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].text |
的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].start |
27009.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].end |
27013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].text |
並缺乏按照實際情形彈性調整的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].start |
27013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].end |
27015.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].text |
故建議不需要立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].start |
27015.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].end |
27017.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].start |
27018.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].end |
27020.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].text |
來國安部謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].start |
27024.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].end |
27026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].text |
主席各位我想剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].start |
27026.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].end |
27028.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].text |
經濟部也說明了現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].start |
27028.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].end |
27030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].text |
第七條講的軍用無人載具的範圍特別廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].start |
27030.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].end |
27032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].text |
我就以MQ9V為例好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].start |
27032.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].end |
27034.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].text |
我們對外對媒採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].start |
27034.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].end |
27036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].text |
MQ9V如果按照您 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].start |
27036.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].end |
27038.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].text |
這樣子的規範說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].start |
27038.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].end |
27040.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].text |
MQ9V的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].start |
27040.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].end |
27042.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].text |
這些無人機有一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].start |
27042.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].end |
27044.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].text |
的這個國產化的比例要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].start |
27044.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].end |
27046.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].text |
多少我不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].start |
27047.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].end |
27049.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].text |
我們有時間的可能性嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].start |
27049.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].end |
27051.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].text |
那我不太清楚在這裡講的所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].start |
27053.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].end |
27055.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].start |
27054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].end |
27058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].text |
在第一款跟第二款又提到所謂的軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].start |
27058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].end |
27060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].text |
我想這個概念上面來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].start |
27060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].end |
27064.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].text |
應該已經沒有所謂的軍用商規這個概念了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].start |
27064.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].end |
27066.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].text |
我們要買的就是軍規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].start |
27067.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].end |
27069.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].text |
我不太清楚這裡所講的軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].start |
27069.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].end |
27071.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].text |
所指的含義是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].start |
27071.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].end |
27073.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].text |
也許過往 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].start |
27073.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].end |
27075.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].text |
是拿過往說我們曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].start |
27075.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].end |
27077.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].text |
曾經以軍用商規為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].start |
27077.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].end |
27079.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].text |
但是現在以無人載具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].start |
27079.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].end |
27081.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].text |
這個應用上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].start |
27081.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].end |
27083.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].start |
27084.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].end |
27086.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].text |
沒有什麼軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].start |
27086.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].end |
27088.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].text |
就我們做戰需求來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].start |
27088.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].end |
27090.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].text |
我們所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].start |
27090.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].end |
27092.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].text |
無人載具的需求都是以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10308].start |
27092.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10308].end |
27094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10308].text |
認為符合做戰需求的軍規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10309].start |
27094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10309].end |
27096.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10309].text |
做處罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[10310].start |
27102.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10310].end |
27104.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10310].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10311].start |
27106.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10311].end |
27108.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10311].text |
都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].start |
27108.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].end |
27110.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].text |
真開心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].start |
27109.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].end |
27111.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10314].start |
27110.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10314].end |
27112.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10314].text |
我個人看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10315].start |
27112.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10315].end |
27114.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10315].text |
我代表主席看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10316].start |
27114.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10316].end |
27116.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10316].text |
我是覺得說因為國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10317].start |
27116.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10317].end |
27118.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10317].text |
當時都是在一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[10318].start |
27118.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10318].end |
27120.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10318].text |
審這個就是說我們希望是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10319].start |
27120.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10319].end |
27122.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10319].text |
國產化的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10320].start |
27122.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10320].end |
27124.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10320].text |
經濟部的話也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10321].start |
27124.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10321].end |
27126.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10321].text |
我們很多都在支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10322].start |
27126.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10322].end |
27128.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10322].text |
就是說就這個法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10323].start |
27128.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10323].end |
27130.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10323].text |
法案的話就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10324].start |
27130.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10324].end |
27132.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10324].text |
假設這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10325].start |
27132.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10325].end |
27134.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10325].text |
領主建化國產化的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10326].start |
27134.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10326].end |
27136.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10326].text |
就是到底我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[10327].start |
27136.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10327].end |
27138.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10327].text |
因為我不是國民黨團的提案者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10328].start |
27138.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10328].end |
27140.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10328].text |
我相信他們對於國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10329].start |
27140.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10329].end |
27142.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10329].text |
在國防自主這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10330].start |
27142.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10330].end |
27144.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10330].text |
可能需要你跟經濟部配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[10331].start |
27144.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10331].end |
27146.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10331].text |
真的確實盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10332].start |
27146.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10332].end |
27148.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10332].text |
因為過去我們看到很多國產化的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10333].start |
27148.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10333].end |
27150.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10333].text |
是更高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].start |
27150.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].end |
27152.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].text |
跟主席報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10335].start |
27152.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10335].end |
27154.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10335].text |
因為這個是國民黨黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10336].start |
27154.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10336].end |
27156.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10336].text |
國民黨黨團在一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[10337].start |
27156.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10337].end |
27158.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10337].text |
定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].start |
27158.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].end |
27160.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].text |
無人宰居的時候他是把所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].start |
27160.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].end |
27162.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].text |
無人宰居都包括進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].start |
27162.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].end |
27164.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].text |
所以我們NQ9B也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].start |
27164.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].end |
27166.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].text |
屬於他定義的無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[10342].start |
27166.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10342].end |
27170.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10342].text |
我是順著國民黨的立法的邏輯往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10343].start |
27170.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10343].end |
27172.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10343].text |
推演到這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10344].start |
27172.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10344].end |
27174.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10344].text |
來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10345].start |
27174.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10345].end |
27176.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10345].text |
經用無人宰居的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].start |
27177.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].end |
27179.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].text |
這個不是我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10347].start |
27179.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10347].end |
27181.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10347].text |
國防部提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10348].start |
27181.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10348].end |
27183.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10348].text |
那個堅爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[10349].start |
27184.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10349].end |
27186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10349].text |
兵海堅爭型的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].start |
27186.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].end |
27188.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].text |
兵海攻擊型的無人機跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].start |
27188.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].end |
27190.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].text |
小型自殺無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].start |
27190.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].end |
27192.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].text |
這三款的範圍而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[10353].start |
27192.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10353].end |
27194.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10353].text |
再回溯回去看看國民黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].start |
27194.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].end |
27196.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].text |
對於無人宰居的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10355].start |
27196.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10355].end |
27198.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10355].text |
在他的名詞定義裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].start |
27198.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].end |
27200.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].text |
他是所有的無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].start |
27200.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].end |
27202.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].text |
所有的無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].start |
27202.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].end |
27204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].text |
都要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].start |
27204.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].end |
27206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].text |
如果按照他的要求都要有一個國產化的比例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10360].start |
27206.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10360].end |
27208.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10360].text |
讓我們很多外購的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].start |
27208.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].end |
27210.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].text |
是不可能做到這個程度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].start |
27210.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].end |
27212.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[10363].start |
27212.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10363].end |
27214.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10363].text |
可能是透過軍購還是透過商購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].start |
27214.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].end |
27216.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].text |
所以我要講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].start |
27216.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].end |
27218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].text |
我的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].start |
27218.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].end |
27220.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].text |
順著國民黨他立法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10367].start |
27220.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10367].end |
27222.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10367].text |
意旨一直往下延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].start |
27222.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].end |
27224.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].text |
會產生非常嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].start |
27224.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].end |
27226.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].text |
我只是特別舉這樣的例子做說明而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].start |
27226.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].end |
27228.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].text |
稍等一下我請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].start |
27229.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].end |
27231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].text |
那你這個軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].start |
27231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].end |
27233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].text |
這個MQ9B是包括在軍用商規嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].start |
27234.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].end |
27236.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].text |
是包括在軍用商規嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].start |
27239.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].end |
27241.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].text |
這個就是我沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].start |
27241.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].end |
27243.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].text |
因為我不是立法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].start |
27243.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].end |
27245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].text |
是我嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].start |
27245.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].end |
27247.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].text |
可是他的頭是冠軍用無人宰居 |
| transcript.whisperx[10378].start |
27247.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10378].end |
27249.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10378].text |
軍用商規有沒有包括MQ9B |
| transcript.whisperx[10379].start |
27249.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10379].end |
27251.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10379].text |
那我現在的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].start |
27251.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].end |
27253.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].text |
就是在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].start |
27253.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].end |
27255.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].text |
那要請國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].start |
27255.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].end |
27257.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].text |
來幫我解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].start |
27257.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].end |
27259.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].text |
什麼叫做軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].start |
27263.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].end |
27265.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].text |
因為我們知道MQ9B |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].start |
27265.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].end |
27267.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].text |
是FMS喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].start |
27267.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].end |
27269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].text |
他不是DCS喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].start |
27269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].end |
27271.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].text |
不是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].start |
27271.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].end |
27273.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].text |
國民黨黨團的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].start |
27273.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].end |
27275.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].text |
並沒有在界定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].start |
27275.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].end |
27277.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].text |
軍售的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].start |
27277.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].end |
27279.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].text |
國內採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].start |
27279.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].end |
27281.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].text |
因為現在這個講是商售 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].start |
27281.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].end |
27283.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].text |
不是軍購喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].start |
27283.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].end |
27285.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].text |
所以這邊講是軍售 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].start |
27285.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].end |
27287.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].text |
那請問一下國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].start |
27287.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].end |
27289.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].text |
我想我們不是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].start |
27289.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].end |
27291.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].text |
我現在請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].start |
27291.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].end |
27293.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].text |
國民黨團的哪一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].start |
27293.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].end |
27295.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].text |
再對應到第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].start |
27295.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].end |
27297.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].text |
在談軍用商規這個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].start |
27299.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].end |
27301.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].text |
是不是指國內採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].start |
27303.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].end |
27305.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].text |
在哪裡可以看得出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].start |
27312.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].end |
27314.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].text |
而且標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].start |
27314.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].end |
27316.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].text |
國民黨你這裡有一個矛盾的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].start |
27316.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].end |
27318.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].text |
你早上才講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].start |
27318.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].end |
27320.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].text |
你要的偵查用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].start |
27320.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].end |
27322.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].text |
這個無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].start |
27322.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].end |
27324.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].text |
自殺式的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].start |
27324.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].end |
27326.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].text |
以及無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].start |
27326.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].end |
27328.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].text |
基本上是對國內採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].start |
27328.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].end |
27330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].start |
27330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].end |
27332.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].text |
沒有MQ9B的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].start |
27332.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].end |
27334.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].text |
對呀 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].start |
27334.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].end |
27336.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].text |
我的標的沒有含MQ9B |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].start |
27336.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].end |
27338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].text |
但貴黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].start |
27338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].end |
27340.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].text |
版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].start |
27340.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].end |
27342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].text |
排除哪些無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].start |
27343.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].end |
27345.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].text |
就是貴黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].start |
27345.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].end |
27347.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].text |
如果大家再回去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].start |
27347.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].end |
27349.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].text |
貴黨的無人載具的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].start |
27349.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].end |
27351.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].text |
在名詞定義是包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].start |
27351.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].end |
27353.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].text |
懸翼型、定翼型、垂直起降型等無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].start |
27353.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].end |
27355.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].text |
包含水面、水下無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].start |
27355.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].end |
27357.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].text |
是無人體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].start |
27357.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].end |
27359.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].text |
包含增收型、後傾型 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].start |
27359.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].end |
27361.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].text |
以及作戰型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].start |
27361.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].end |
27363.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].text |
地面無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].start |
27363.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].end |
27365.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].text |
其操作或飛航不需人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].start |
27365.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].end |
27367.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].text |
承載於機具本體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].start |
27367.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].end |
27369.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].text |
所以它包括天上飛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].start |
27369.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].end |
27371.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].text |
水上航行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].start |
27371.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].end |
27373.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].text |
水下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].start |
27373.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].end |
27375.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].text |
乃至於地面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].start |
27375.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].end |
27377.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].text |
都含在你們的無人載具範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].start |
27377.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].end |
27379.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].text |
很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].start |
27379.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].end |
27381.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].text |
報告很廣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].start |
27381.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].end |
27383.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].text |
沒有,我只要跟你強調一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].start |
27383.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].end |
27385.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].text |
軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].start |
27385.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].end |
27387.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].text |
雇雲失意,它是DCS嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].start |
27387.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].end |
27389.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].text |
它不是FMS嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].start |
27389.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].end |
27391.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].text |
那你MQ9B是FMS啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].start |
27391.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].end |
27393.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].text |
這個東西大家都很清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].start |
27393.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].end |
27395.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].text |
怎麼不是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].start |
27395.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].end |
27397.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].text |
這是comment to comment |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].start |
27397.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].end |
27399.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].text |
我沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].start |
27399.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].end |
27401.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].text |
那可能要麻煩公務大委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].start |
27401.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].end |
27403.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].text |
在電影裡面把軍用商規稍微定義一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].start |
27407.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].end |
27409.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].start |
27408.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].end |
27410.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].text |
字幕製作人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].start |
27411.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].end |
27413.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].text |
其他的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].start |
27414.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].end |
27416.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].text |
沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].start |
27416.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].end |
27418.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].text |
好吧,現在就當留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].start |
27419.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].end |
27421.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].text |
接下來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].start |
27421.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].end |
27423.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].text |
我們進到第21頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].start |
27423.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].end |
27425.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].text |
主要合併討論國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].start |
27425.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].end |
27427.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].text |
提案第8條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].start |
27427.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].end |
27429.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].text |
中央邊緯提案第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].start |
27429.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].end |
27431.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].text |
黃定野提案第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].start |
27432.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].end |
27434.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].text |
這是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].start |
27434.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].end |
27436.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].text |
講補助跟研發交易補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].start |
27438.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].end |
27440.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].text |
那差別看起來就是中央邊是委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].start |
27440.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].end |
27442.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].text |
其他的的話應該都是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].start |
27445.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].end |
27447.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].text |
來,請進進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].start |
27454.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].end |
27456.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].text |
好,報告各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].start |
27456.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].end |
27458.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].text |
那這一條最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].start |
27458.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].end |
27460.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].text |
是講到相關無人機的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].start |
27460.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].end |
27462.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].text |
輔導的這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].start |
27462.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].end |
27464.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].text |
那我們目前這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].start |
27464.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].end |
27466.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].text |
對無人載具的這個業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].start |
27466.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].end |
27468.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].text |
已經可以依照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].start |
27468.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].end |
27470.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].text |
這個產創條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].start |
27470.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].end |
27472.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].text |
這個包括第9條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].start |
27472.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].end |
27474.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].text |
有研發補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].start |
27474.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].end |
27476.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].text |
第10條也有研發投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].start |
27476.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].end |
27478.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].text |
第10條之一也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10476].start |
27478.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10476].end |
27480.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10476].text |
針對智慧機械 |
| transcript.whisperx[10477].start |
27480.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10477].end |
27482.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10477].text |
AI |
| transcript.whisperx[10478].start |
27481.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10478].end |
27483.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10478].text |
等設備的這個投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[10479].start |
27483.69 |
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27485.69 |
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還有第30條 |
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27485.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].end |
27487.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].text |
國發機也可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].start |
27487.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].end |
27489.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].text |
一些投資 |
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27489.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].end |
27491.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].text |
那另外相關人才培訓市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].start |
27491.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].end |
27493.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].text |
測試證證以及供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].start |
27493.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].end |
27495.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].text |
整合的這些事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].start |
27495.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].end |
27497.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].text |
都已經納入無人載具產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].start |
27497.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].end |
27499.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].text |
發展統籌型的這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].start |
27499.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].end |
27501.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].text |
以及現行產業輔導的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].start |
27501.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].end |
27503.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].text |
來推動,那實務長已經可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].start |
27503.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].end |
27505.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].text |
提供業者所需要的這個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].start |
27505.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].end |
27507.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].text |
那另外工程會也已經有訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].start |
27507.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].end |
27509.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].text |
遙控無人機採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].start |
27509.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].end |
27511.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].text |
那另外這個指引,以分級的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].start |
27511.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].end |
27513.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].text |
將非宏級國產化民主建 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].start |
27513.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].end |
27515.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].text |
納入採購的一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].start |
27515.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].end |
27517.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].text |
可實質鼓勵國產化優良的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].start |
27517.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].end |
27519.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].text |
建立物需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].start |
27519.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].end |
27521.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].text |
另外的立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].start |
27521.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].end |
27523.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].start |
27528.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].end |
27530.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].text |
阿光,對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].start |
27529.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].end |
27531.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].text |
我稍微再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].start |
27531.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].end |
27533.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].text |
剛剛有提到軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].start |
27533.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].end |
27535.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].text |
那我當然再看了一下國民黨黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].start |
27535.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].end |
27537.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].text |
它的第三條,確實有提到軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].start |
27537.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].end |
27539.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].start |
27539.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].end |
27541.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].text |
是指以商用規格之零組件為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].start |
27541.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].end |
27543.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].text |
依軍事需求進行適應性改良 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].start |
27543.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].end |
27545.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].text |
並符合一定抗干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].start |
27545.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].end |
27547.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].text |
抗電池、脈衝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].start |
27547.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].end |
27549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].text |
及戰場存活力 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].start |
27549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].end |
27551.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].text |
標準的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].start |
27551.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].end |
27553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].text |
那我這邊只要說明一下,就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].start |
27553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].end |
27555.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].text |
軍用商規的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].start |
27555.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].end |
27557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].text |
在這裡所定義的,還是要以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].start |
27557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].end |
27559.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].text |
軍事需求來作為一個基礎的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].start |
27559.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].end |
27561.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].text |
如果是這樣子講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].start |
27561.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].end |
27563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].text |
那麼有關於所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].start |
27563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].end |
27565.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].text |
符合一定抗干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].start |
27565.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].end |
27567.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].text |
抗電池、脈衝及戰場存活率 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].start |
27567.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].end |
27569.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].text |
標準的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].start |
27569.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].end |
27571.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].text |
在我們來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].start |
27571.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].end |
27573.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].text |
我們都還是要以我們的作戰需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].start |
27573.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].end |
27575.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].text |
採取我們認為適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].start |
27575.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].end |
27577.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].text |
我們作戰需求的軍規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].start |
27577.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].end |
27579.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].text |
所以有關相關於所謂的商用規格 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].start |
27579.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].end |
27581.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].text |
之零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].start |
27581.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].end |
27583.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].start |
27582.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].end |
27584.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].text |
沒有辦法能夠充分的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].start |
27584.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].end |
27586.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].text |
什麼叫做以商用規格之零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].start |
27586.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].end |
27588.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].text |
為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].start |
27588.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].end |
27590.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].text |
因為所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].start |
27590.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].end |
27592.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].text |
我們所軍規所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].start |
27592.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].end |
27594.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].text |
這些無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].start |
27594.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].end |
27596.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].text |
我們都還是希望符合我們的軍規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].start |
27596.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].end |
27598.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].text |
那以後我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].start |
27598.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].end |
27600.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].text |
依照我們的軍事需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].start |
27600.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].end |
27602.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].text |
我們也採購相關的這些無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].start |
27602.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].end |
27604.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].text |
所以還是回到剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].start |
27604.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].end |
27606.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].text |
那個所謂的本條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].start |
27606.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].end |
27608.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].text |
事情後多久之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].start |
27608.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].end |
27610.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].text |
軍用商規的無人機的國產化 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].start |
27610.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].end |
27612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].text |
比例是多少的這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].start |
27612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].end |
27614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].text |
我們在國防部的立場上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].start |
27614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].end |
27616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].text |
我們沒有辦法確切的能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].start |
27616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].end |
27618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].text |
充分的去理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].start |
27618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].end |
27620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].text |
這樣子的一個特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].start |
27620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].end |
27622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].text |
一個所謂的軍用商規無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].start |
27622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].end |
27624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].text |
在他的定義之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].start |
27624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].end |
27626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].text |
所能夠所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].start |
27626.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].end |
27628.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].text |
國產化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].start |
27628.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].end |
27630.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].text |
這個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].start |
27630.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].end |
27632.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].text |
指的是不是一定是現以對國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].start |
27632.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].end |
27634.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].text |
採購的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].start |
27634.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].end |
27636.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].text |
那如果說是現以國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].start |
27636.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].end |
27638.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].text |
採購也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].start |
27638.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].end |
27640.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].text |
符合我們現在國防自主採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].start |
27640.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].end |
27642.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].text |
所要發展的這個項目的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].start |
27642.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].end |
27644.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].text |
我可能要麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].start |
27644.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].end |
27646.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].text |
國民黨的版本在軍用商規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].start |
27646.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].end |
27648.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].text |
無人機的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].start |
27648.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].end |
27650.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].text |
就是指為了記憶國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].start |
27650.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].end |
27652.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].text |
採購而所發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].start |
27652.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].end |
27654.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].text |
這些所謂的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].start |
27654.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].end |
27656.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].text |
但是合乎我們軍事需求 我想這樣可能會比較清楚一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].start |
27656.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].end |
27658.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].text |
那另外剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].start |
27658.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].end |
27660.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].text |
獎勵補助的這些相關的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].start |
27660.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].end |
27662.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].text |
應該不是在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].start |
27662.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].end |
27664.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].text |
這個國防部所應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].start |
27664.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].end |
27666.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].text |
要的一個權責範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].start |
27666.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].end |
27668.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].text |
那這個部分以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].start |
27669.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].end |
27671.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].start |
27674.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].end |
27676.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].text |
我還是想要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].start |
27676.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].end |
27678.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].text |
因為這個是國民黨黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].start |
27678.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].end |
27680.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].text |
我還是想要具體請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].start |
27680.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].end |
27682.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].text |
第八條整個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].start |
27682.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].end |
27684.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].text |
念完 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].start |
27684.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].end |
27686.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].text |
我想請教你們補助的對象會是綠油油嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].start |
27689.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].end |
27691.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].text |
你直接寫補助業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].start |
27691.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].end |
27693.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].text |
還有資金投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].start |
27693.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].end |
27695.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].text |
還有授權 還有優先採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].start |
27695.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].end |
27697.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].text |
然後提供融資及優惠利率 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].start |
27697.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].end |
27699.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].text |
所以這些都做完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].start |
27699.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].end |
27701.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].text |
這個業者是不是就是綠油油? |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].start |
27702.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].end |
27704.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].text |
請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].start |
27704.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].end |
27706.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].text |
你覺得他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].start |
27706.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].end |
27708.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].text |
你喜歡的時候就說他是這個優良業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].start |
27708.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].end |
27710.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].text |
你不喜歡他的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].start |
27710.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].end |
27712.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].text |
你就說他是綠油油 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].start |
27712.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].end |
27714.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].text |
然後就說是經濟部 毒後他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].start |
27714.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].end |
27716.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].text |
還優先採購他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].start |
27716.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].end |
27718.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].text |
還資金幫助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].start |
27718.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].end |
27720.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].text |
還授權 還補助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].start |
27720.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].end |
27722.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].text |
還優惠融資 什麼都來囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].start |
27722.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].end |
27724.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].text |
那這是不是綠油油? |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].start |
27723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].end |
27725.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].text |
請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].start |
27727.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].end |
27729.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].text |
這個不用回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].start |
27730.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].end |
27732.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].text |
這很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].start |
27732.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].end |
27734.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].text |
因為我們要釐清被補助的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].start |
27734.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].end |
27736.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].text |
被你認定優良的補助業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].start |
27736.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].end |
27738.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].text |
是不是每一個都是綠油油? |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].start |
27739.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].end |
27741.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].text |
就說明書啊 這是你們寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].start |
27741.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].end |
27743.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].text |
你可以回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].start |
27742.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].end |
27744.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].text |
不然叫副坤起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].start |
27744.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].end |
27746.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].text |
這副坤起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].start |
27747.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].end |
27751.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].text |
我們今天在審查這個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].start |
27751.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].end |
27753.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].text |
各個委員 各個黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].start |
27753.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].end |
27755.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].text |
依法去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].start |
27755.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].end |
27759.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].text |
提出大家的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].start |
27759.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].end |
27761.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].text |
今天行政部門坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].start |
27761.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].end |
27763.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].text |
我們要討論的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].start |
27763.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].end |
27765.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].text |
提出法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].start |
27765.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].end |
27767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].text |
在委員方面 在行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].start |
27767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].end |
27769.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].text |
要怎麼樣去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].start |
27769.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].end |
27771.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].text |
能不能達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].start |
27771.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].end |
27773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].text |
尤其現在討論到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].start |
27773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].end |
27775.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].text |
第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].start |
27775.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].end |
27777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].text |
我相信所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].start |
27777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].end |
27779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].text |
一定都是全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].start |
27779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].end |
27781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].text |
投入無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].start |
27781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].end |
27785.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].text |
關鍵領主建國產化的優良業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].start |
27785.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].end |
27789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].text |
經濟部卓語講著 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].start |
27789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].end |
27791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].text |
這個是我們每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].start |
27791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].end |
27793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].text |
在經濟委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].start |
27793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].end |
27797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].text |
大家都非常非常的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].start |
27797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].end |
27799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].text |
所以今天提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].start |
27799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].end |
27801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].text |
應當是大家全力的來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].start |
27801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].end |
27803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].text |
我們的無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].start |
27803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].end |
27805.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].text |
無人載具 零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].start |
27805.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].end |
27807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].text |
讓我們國內的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].start |
27807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].end |
27811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].text |
可以精進 可以升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].start |
27811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].end |
27813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].text |
所以因此不管在捐助 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].start |
27813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].end |
27815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].text |
或者是資金技術投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].start |
27815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].end |
27817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].text |
或者是授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].start |
27817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].end |
27819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].text |
或者是應該要優先採購國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].start |
27819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].end |
27821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].text |
或者是要提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].start |
27821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].end |
27823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].text |
融資的優惠利率 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].start |
27823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].end |
27825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].start |
27825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].end |
27827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].text |
不管是在民進黨的委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].start |
27827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].end |
27829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].text |
大家的方向精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].start |
27829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].end |
27831.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].text |
都是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].start |
27831.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].end |
27833.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].text |
我們都要得到支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].start |
27833.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].end |
27835.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].text |
以上我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].start |
27835.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].end |
27837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].text |
請主席做裁決 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].start |
27838.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].end |
27840.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].text |
好來 宗教評 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].start |
27839.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].end |
27840.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].start |
27841.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].end |
27843.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].text |
好 因為條次我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].start |
27843.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].end |
27845.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].text |
版本的第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].start |
27845.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].end |
27847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].text |
又跟國民黨的第8條放在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].start |
27847.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].end |
27849.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].text |
那我必須說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].start |
27849.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].end |
27851.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].text |
上週的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].start |
27851.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].end |
27853.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].text |
真的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].start |
27853.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].end |
27855.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].text |
能夠有些積極性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].start |
27855.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].end |
27857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].text |
建設性方案提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].start |
27857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].end |
27859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].text |
有提出說 我們要去注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].start |
27859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].end |
27861.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].text |
有在2018年 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].start |
27861.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].end |
27863.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].text |
有通過了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].start |
27863.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].end |
27865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].text |
無人載具科技創新實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].start |
27865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].end |
27867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].text |
其實我後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].start |
27867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].end |
27869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].text |
再去看了這個無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].start |
27869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].end |
27871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].text |
科技創新實驗條例之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].start |
27871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].end |
27873.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].text |
我覺得在我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].start |
27873.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].end |
27875.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].text |
版本當中第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].start |
27875.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].end |
27877.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].start |
27875.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].end |
27877.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].text |
可以被這樣的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].start |
27877.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].end |
27879.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].text |
只要稍微的修改既有的條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].start |
27879.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].end |
27881.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].text |
就可以吸納 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].start |
27881.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].end |
27883.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].text |
所以剛剛經濟部的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].start |
27883.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].end |
27885.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].text |
我是可以原則接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].start |
27885.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].end |
27887.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].text |
那麼如果是這樣的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].start |
27887.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].end |
27889.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].text |
國民黨的第8條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].start |
27889.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].end |
27891.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].text |
其實也是建議國民黨團可以回去看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].start |
27891.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].end |
27893.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].text |
我們這是新創法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].start |
27893.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].end |
27895.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].text |
那新創法要建立一個新的法律體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].start |
27895.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].end |
27897.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].text |
它會遇到很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].start |
27897.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].end |
27899.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].text |
可能需要的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].start |
27899.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].end |
27901.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].text |
壓力測試一個環評 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].start |
27901.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].end |
27903.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].text |
那如果單純的放在採購上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].start |
27903.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].end |
27905.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].text |
那麼對於產業輔導部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].start |
27905.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].end |
27907.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].text |
如果以現有的產業輔導相關的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].start |
27909.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].end |
27911.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].text |
稍微修改就能納入的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].start |
27911.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].end |
27913.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].text |
我會覺得可以用既有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].start |
27913.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].end |
27915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].text |
條例來進行修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].start |
27915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].end |
27917.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].text |
所以我的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].start |
27917.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].end |
27919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].text |
我的部分我會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].start |
27919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].end |
27921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].text |
個人先表達我的版本這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].start |
27921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].end |
27923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].text |
可以保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].start |
27923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].end |
27925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].text |
不是保留出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].start |
27925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].end |
27927.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].text |
因為未來的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].start |
27927.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].end |
27929.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].text |
無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].start |
27929.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].end |
27931.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].text |
它的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].start |
27931.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].end |
27933.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].text |
創新科技實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].start |
27933.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].end |
27935.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].text |
它未來有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].start |
27935.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].end |
27937.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].text |
在後續我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].start |
27937.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].end |
27939.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].text |
相關和現在無人載具的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].start |
27939.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].end |
27941.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].text |
我們是進行調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].start |
27941.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].end |
27943.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].text |
因為它的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].start |
27943.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].end |
27945.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].text |
編類就是在經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10697].start |
27945.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10697].end |
27947.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10697].text |
這在2018年是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].start |
27947.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].end |
27949.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].text |
那至於剛剛這個第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].start |
27949.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].end |
27951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].text |
之前的第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].start |
27951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].end |
27953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].text |
我就看到了這個不禁想到網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].start |
27953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].end |
27955.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].text |
現在新鮮人社會新鮮人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].start |
27955.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].end |
27957.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].text |
求職期間有個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].start |
27957.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].end |
27959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].text |
有人問社會新鮮人你剛出校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].start |
27959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].end |
27961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].text |
你現在做工作找得怎麼樣不錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].start |
27961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].end |
27963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].text |
我有個工作啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].start |
27962.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].end |
27964.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].text |
月入20萬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].start |
27964.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].end |
27966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].text |
週休5天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].start |
27967.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].end |
27969.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].text |
然後呢福利很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].start |
27969.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].end |
27971.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].text |
人家問啊你是做什麼的做夢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].start |
27972.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].end |
27974.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].text |
這個第七條啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].start |
27974.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].end |
27976.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].text |
什麼508070 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].start |
27976.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].end |
27978.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].text |
這個百分比我真的不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].start |
27978.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].end |
27980.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].text |
它的所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].start |
27980.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].end |
27982.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].text |
40依據物理基礎在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].start |
27983 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].end |
27985 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].text |
就連美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].start |
27985 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].end |
27987 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].text |
口口聲聲有委員說美國的無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].start |
27987 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].end |
27989 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].text |
發展很好他們也不可能去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].start |
27989 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].end |
27991 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].text |
訂出這種50啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].start |
27991 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].end |
27993 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].text |
80啊70啊連軍用 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].start |
27993 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].end |
27995 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].text |
都做不到你要管軍用商規的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].start |
27995.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].end |
27997.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].text |
所以我是覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].start |
27997.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].end |
27999.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].text |
剛剛這個第七條已經保留了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].start |
27999.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].end |
28001.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].text |
我尊重我們楊瓊英委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].start |
28001.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].end |
28003.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].text |
第一條也保留保留得好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].start |
28003.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].end |
28005.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].text |
這條根本沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].start |
28005.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].end |
28007.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].text |
那至於第八條呢可能也跟本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].start |
28007.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].end |
28009.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].text |
版本的第十條一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].start |
28009.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].end |
28011.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].text |
可以參考無人載具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].start |
28011.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].end |
28013.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].text |
科技礦星科技實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].start |
28013.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].end |
28015.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].text |
去用那個條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].start |
28015.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].end |
28017.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].text |
條例那個版本呢來進行修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].start |
28017.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].end |
28019.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].text |
以上建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].start |
28019.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].end |
28021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].text |
好因為我們沒辦法單獨保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].start |
28021.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].end |
28023.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].text |
某一個委員的版本在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].start |
28023.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].end |
28025.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].text |
所以我們就一併出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].start |
28026.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].end |
28028.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].text |
沒有條啦沒有條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].start |
28029.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].end |
28031.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].text |
沒有條沒有條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].start |
28032.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].end |
28034.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].text |
好所以我們現在這邊的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].start |
28034.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].end |
28036.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].text |
就是針對國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].start |
28036.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].end |
28038.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].text |
提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].start |
28038.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].end |
28040.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].text |
中央兵提案第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].start |
28040.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].end |
28042.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].text |
人黨第四三條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].start |
28045.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].end |
28047.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].text |
好接下來我們進行第 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].start |
28047.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].end |
28049.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].text |
二十二頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].start |
28049.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].end |
28051.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].text |
國民黨黨團提案第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].start |
28051.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].end |
28053.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].start |
28053.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].end |
28055.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].text |
請進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].start |
28057.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].end |
28059.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].text |
請進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].start |
28062.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].end |
28064.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].text |
這個這個經濟不能回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].start |
28064.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].end |
28066.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].text |
好奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].start |
28068.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].end |
28070.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].text |
好報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].start |
28070.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].end |
28072.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].text |
那這一條其實國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].start |
28072.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].end |
28074.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].text |
已經有多項的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].start |
28074.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].end |
28076.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].text |
方案已經在支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].start |
28076.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].end |
28078.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].text |
包括加強投資中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].start |
28078.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].end |
28080.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].text |
實施方案加強投資策略性 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].start |
28080.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].end |
28082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].text |
服務業實施方案加強投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].start |
28082.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].end |
28084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].text |
策略性製造業實施方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].start |
28084.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].end |
28086.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].text |
等跟民間的資金共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].start |
28086.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].end |
28088.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].text |
投資中小級新創企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].start |
28088.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].end |
28090.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].text |
的方案建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].start |
28090.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].end |
28092.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].text |
不需要令立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].start |
28092.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].end |
28094.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].start |
28093.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].end |
28095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].text |
國發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].start |
28108.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].end |
28110.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].text |
主席各位委員大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].start |
28110.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].end |
28112.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].text |
那國發基金這邊說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].start |
28112.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].end |
28114.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].text |
因為國發基金本來就是依照產業創新條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].start |
28114.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].end |
28116.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].text |
而設置的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].start |
28116.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].end |
28118.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].text |
所以國發基金的宗旨就是在協助產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].start |
28118.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].end |
28120.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].text |
那剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].start |
28120.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].end |
28122.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].text |
經濟部次長也有報告過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].start |
28122.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].end |
28124.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].text |
就是國發基金現在投資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].start |
28125.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].end |
28127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].text |
包括直接投資還有跟部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].start |
28127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].end |
28129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].text |
之間合作的白衣投資以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].start |
28129.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].end |
28131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].text |
創業天使投資方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].start |
28131.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].end |
28133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].text |
目前都可以投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].start |
28133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].end |
28135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].text |
從事無人載具科技事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].start |
28136.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].end |
28138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].text |
而且經濟部這邊也有中小企業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].start |
28138.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].end |
28140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].text |
本來就是在協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].start |
28140.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].end |
28142.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].text |
中小企業跟新創企業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].start |
28142.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].end |
28144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].text |
所以建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].start |
28144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].end |
28146.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].text |
不需要令立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].start |
28146.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].end |
28148.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].text |
以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].start |
28150.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].end |
28152.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].text |
完 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].start |
28151.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].end |
28153.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].text |
來 還是保衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].start |
28153.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].end |
28155.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].start |
28154.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].end |
28156.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].text |
這個你們兩位長官你不要膝蓋是粉令啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].start |
28156.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].end |
28158.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].text |
看到在那一檔就想給他抬了一下狗 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].start |
28158.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].end |
28160.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].start |
28160.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].end |
28162.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].text |
得啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].start |
28162.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].end |
28164.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].text |
各位得啊他不是陰啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].start |
28164.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].end |
28166.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].text |
可得可不得啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].start |
28166.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].end |
28168.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].text |
這只是一個宣示性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].start |
28168.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].end |
28170.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].text |
我讓中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].start |
28170.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].end |
28172.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].text |
有機會參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].start |
28172.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].end |
28174.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].text |
我們的金公業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].start |
28174.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].end |
28176.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].text |
這是一個藝術啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].start |
28176.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].end |
28178.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].text |
是一個技術啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].start |
28178.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].end |
28180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].text |
啊千萬你們好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].start |
28180.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].end |
28182.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].text |
好像是有不適合這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].start |
28182.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].end |
28184.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].text |
會有這麼嚴重嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].start |
28184.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].end |
28186.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].start |
28185.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].end |
28187.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].text |
第九頭就幫助中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].start |
28187.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].end |
28189.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].text |
讓中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].start |
28189.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].end |
28191.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].text |
有機會參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].start |
28192.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].end |
28194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].text |
如果我們要把金公產業變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].start |
28194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].end |
28196.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].text |
變成我們的富國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].start |
28196.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].end |
28198.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].text |
第二次富國神山的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].start |
28198.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].end |
28200.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].text |
有機會 只有你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].start |
28200.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].end |
28202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].text |
你根本多難得啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].start |
28202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].end |
28204.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].text |
他得你可不要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].start |
28204.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].end |
28206.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].text |
根本現在有這麼嚴重嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].start |
28206.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].end |
28208.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].text |
另外我要提一個不要忘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].start |
28208.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].end |
28210.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].text |
神劑部在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].start |
28210.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].end |
28212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].text |
112年度跟113年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].start |
28212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].end |
28214.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].text |
的決算報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].start |
28214.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].end |
28216.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].text |
都寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].start |
28216.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].end |
28218.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].text |
都寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].start |
28219.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].end |
28221.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].start |
28221.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].end |
28223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].text |
簡單來講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].start |
28223.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].end |
28225.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].text |
我們正在發展國防產業的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].start |
28225.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].end |
28227.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].text |
英國 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].start |
28228.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].end |
28230.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].text |
同時能夠帶動 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].start |
28230.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].end |
28232.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].text |
國內的民間產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].start |
28232.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].end |
28234.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].text |
現在目前為止機械不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].start |
28234.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].end |
28236.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].text |
神劑部112年113年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].start |
28236.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].end |
28238.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].text |
神劑報告都寫得這麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].start |
28238.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].end |
28240.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].text |
你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].start |
28240.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].end |
28242.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].text |
獎勵廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].start |
28243.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].end |
28245.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].text |
我內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].start |
28245.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].end |
28247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].text |
公告的列管軍品 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].start |
28247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].end |
28249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].text |
未能夠結合國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].start |
28249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].end |
28251.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].text |
資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].start |
28251.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].end |
28253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].text |
事先把機會賜給 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].start |
28253.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].end |
28255.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].text |
這個商機啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].start |
28255.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].end |
28257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].text |
這個廠商 且獎勵廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].start |
28257.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].end |
28259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].text |
參與之配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].start |
28259.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].end |
28261.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].text |
尚未完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].start |
28262.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].end |
28264.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].text |
這個東西很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].start |
28264.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].end |
28266.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].text |
112年已經有這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].start |
28266.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].end |
28268.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].text |
就職報告 神劑部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].start |
28268.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].end |
28270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].text |
113年一樣就代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].start |
28270.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].end |
28272.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].text |
國防部理都不理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].start |
28272.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].end |
28274.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].text |
國防部在發展國防產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].start |
28274.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].end |
28276.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].text |
拼命要前去發展的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].start |
28276.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].end |
28278.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].text |
我們都支持啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].start |
28278.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].end |
28280.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].text |
但是我們也希望你來帶動 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].start |
28280.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].end |
28282.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].text |
民間的產業 帶動經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].start |
28282.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].end |
28284.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].text |
所主管的這些產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].start |
28284.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].end |
28286.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].text |
那第八 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].start |
28286.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].end |
28288.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].text |
現在機械廠第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].start |
28288.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].end |
28290.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].text |
就是這個意思啊 第九條就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].start |
28289.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].end |
28291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].text |
中小企業這次得了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].start |
28291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].end |
28293.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].text |
有這麼嚴重嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].start |
28294.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].end |
28296.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].text |
有這麼嚴重嗎 各位你一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].start |
28296.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].end |
28298.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].text |
一定要把他殺掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].start |
28298.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].end |
28300.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].text |
這個不是因啦 是得啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].start |
28300.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].end |
28302.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].text |
得你可以不要理他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].start |
28302.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].end |
28304.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].text |
得 但是一個宣示性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].start |
28304.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].end |
28306.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].text |
所代表我們這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].start |
28306.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].end |
28308.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].text |
我們要重視中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].start |
28308.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].end |
28310.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].text |
讓中小企業也有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].start |
28310.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].end |
28312.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].text |
參與我們的無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].start |
28312.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].end |
28314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].text |
宅具的相關產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].start |
28314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].end |
28316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].text |
就這麼一點點的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].start |
28316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].end |
28318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].text |
意思而已 然後你們要把他殺掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].start |
28318.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].end |
28320.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].text |
實在是莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].start |
28321.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].end |
28323.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].text |
莫名其妙很多啦 我在要跑邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].start |
28324.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].end |
28326.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].text |
根本沒有必要啦 因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].start |
28326.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].end |
28328.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].text |
國發經濟本來就是個機制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].start |
28328.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].end |
28330.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].text |
不寫這一條中小企業傳產要加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].start |
28330.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].end |
28332.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].text |
無人宅具是都可以的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].start |
28332.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].end |
28334.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].text |
其實我們看了後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].start |
28334.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].end |
28336.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].text |
建議主席啊 後面國民黨團的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].start |
28336.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].end |
28338.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].text |
其實也沒有人可以來代表做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].start |
28338.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].end |
28340.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].text |
可以做回應了 那賴斯巴爾委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].start |
28340.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].end |
28342.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].text |
放了自己AB版他也不講 那就專門 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].start |
28342.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].end |
28344.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].text |
幫國民黨團講這個版本 我也有點失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].start |
28344.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].end |
28346.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].text |
本來想跟他好好的對話他的AB版 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].start |
28346.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].end |
28348.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].text |
因為畢竟我的版本跟他的B版 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].start |
28348.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].end |
28350.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].text |
也有相容之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].start |
28350.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].end |
28352.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].text |
所以建議主席啊 我看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].start |
28352.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].end |
28354.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].text |
國民黨的提案是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].start |
28354.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].end |
28356.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].text |
問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].start |
28355.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].end |
28357.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].text |
他有沒有 他們國民黨團沒有說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].start |
28357.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].end |
28359.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].text |
不然的話我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].start |
28359.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].end |
28361.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].text |
符合召委的期待 我們速速進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].start |
28363.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].end |
28365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].text |
不要聯網喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].start |
28365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].end |
28367.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].text |
只要碰到我的條文我都幫我QD |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].start |
28367.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].end |
28369.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].text |
不要這樣子亂聯網喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].start |
28369.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].end |
28371.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].text |
只要碰到 但是我投石 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].start |
28371.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].end |
28373.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].text |
我是國民黨團議員 當然要幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].start |
28373.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].end |
28375.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].text |
國民黨團講話 這天經地義的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].start |
28375.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].end |
28377.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].text |
像你現在在幫民進黨團講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].start |
28377.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].end |
28379.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].text |
一樣的意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].start |
28380.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].end |
28382.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].text |
這個 大家這一條有爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].start |
28382.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].end |
28384.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].text |
我也覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].start |
28385 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].end |
28387 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].text |
國發親親 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].start |
28387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].end |
28391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].text |
我們政府來說明年有一千億要為小 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].start |
28391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].end |
28393.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].text |
為小型企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].start |
28394.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].end |
28396.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].text |
然後新創條例大家新創 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].start |
28397.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].end |
28399.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].text |
是 要大家說全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].start |
28401.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].end |
28403.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].text |
那有什麼理由來反對這個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].start |
28404.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].end |
28406.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].text |
他得 可以有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].start |
28406.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].end |
28408.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].text |
如果 我們經常會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].start |
28408.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].end |
28410.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].text |
世界之光的一個產生啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].start |
28412.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].end |
28414.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].text |
那為什麼這個還有爭議呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].start |
28414.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].end |
28416.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].text |
那政府本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].start |
28416.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].end |
28418.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].text |
跟民間本來做合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].start |
28418.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].end |
28420.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].text |
全力的支持啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].start |
28420.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].end |
28422.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].text |
這有什麼問題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].start |
28422.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].end |
28424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].text |
所以主席 請做一決啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].start |
28424.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].end |
28426.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].text |
好 或簡單一句啦 主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].start |
28427.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].end |
28429.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].text |
第九條跟第八條最大的差別 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].start |
28429.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].end |
28431.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].text |
有人法律不好就算了啦 中文也不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].start |
28431.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].end |
28433.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].text |
第八條好歹有對投入無人宅具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].start |
28433.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].end |
28435.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].text |
啪啪啪啪 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].start |
28435.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].end |
28437.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].text |
經濟部可以怎麼樣怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].start |
28437.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].end |
28439.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].text |
這一條只有主持沒有受持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].start |
28439.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].end |
28441.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].text |
那不住誰 共同投資什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].start |
28441.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].end |
28443.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].text |
第九條在第八條之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].start |
28443.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].end |
28445.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].text |
第十條之前沒有受持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].start |
28445.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].end |
28447.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].text |
那好歹你要寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].start |
28447.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].end |
28449.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].text |
對於投入無人宅具產業 政府得得的共同投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].start |
28449.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].end |
28451.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].text |
所以這個條文不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].start |
28451.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].end |
28453.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].text |
托克斯放屁 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].start |
28453.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].end |
28455.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].text |
根本也不曉得他的受益者是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].start |
28455.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].end |
28457.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].text |
中小企業在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].start |
28457.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].end |
28459.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].text |
到處都中小企業 你這裡是無人宅具 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].start |
28459.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].end |
28461.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].text |
你至少第八條還有寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].start |
28461.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].end |
28463.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].text |
對投入無人宅具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].start |
28463.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].end |
28465.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].text |
可以有什麼樣的一個作為獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].start |
28465.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].end |
28467.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].text |
這一條連受持是誰都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].start |
28467.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].end |
28469.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].text |
所以這個不是法律不好啦 這是中文不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].start |
28470.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].end |
28474.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].text |
你要把這個投入無人宅具加進去你就支持嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].start |
28474.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].end |
28476.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].text |
那我支持你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].start |
28476.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].end |
28478.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].text |
不會 我都保留 因為我們要支持的很多都保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].start |
28478.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].end |
28480.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].text |
不用在這邊 我建議都保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].start |
28482.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].end |
28484.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].text |
保留好 再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].start |
28484.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].end |
28486.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].text |
國民黨團提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].start |
28493.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].end |
28495.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].text |
第十條 部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].start |
28497.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].end |
28499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].text |
如果沒有一件你出手保留也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].start |
28499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].end |
28501.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].text |
因為這還難行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].start |
28504.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].end |
28506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].text |
好 那這一條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].start |
28506.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].end |
28508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].text |
經濟部這邊說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].start |
28508.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].end |
28510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].text |
所列的這些評估的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].start |
28510.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].end |
28512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].text |
其實我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].start |
28512.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].end |
28514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].text |
這個無人宅具財政法案投入計畫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].start |
28514.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].end |
28516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].text |
已經有績效廣考 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].start |
28516.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].end |
28518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].text |
跟成果檢討的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].start |
28518.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].end |
28520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].text |
並可以彙整產值就業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].start |
28520.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].end |
28522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].text |
跟其他的這些可量化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].start |
28522.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].end |
28524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].text |
成果來供立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].start |
28524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].end |
28526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].text |
參考 那建立無需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].start |
28526.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].end |
28528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].text |
立法規範 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].start |
28528.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].end |
28530.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].start |
28530.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].end |
28532.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].text |
那我們討論還是保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].start |
28532.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].end |
28534.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].text |
評估還是很重要 好 再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].start |
28534.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].end |
28536.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].text |
國民黨團提案第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].start |
28536.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].end |
28538.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].text |
跟賴世寶提案第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].start |
28540.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].end |
28542.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].text |
建制部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].start |
28543.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].end |
28545.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].text |
這一條跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].start |
28545.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].end |
28547.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].text |
那這個有關這些無人宅具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].start |
28547.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].end |
28549.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].text |
治安標準跟高風險供應鏈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10965].start |
28549.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10965].end |
28551.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10965].text |
一個管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10966].start |
28551.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10966].end |
28553.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10966].text |
目前這個數位部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10967].start |
28553.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10967].end |
28555.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10967].text |
已經 數畫部已經會同相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10968].start |
28555.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10968].end |
28557.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10968].text |
機關依照資通安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[10969].start |
28557.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10969].end |
28559.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10969].text |
跟國家安全的相關規定來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[10970].start |
28559.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10970].end |
28561.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10970].text |
另外政府機關辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10971].start |
28561.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10971].end |
28563.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10971].text |
遙控無人機採購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10972].start |
28563.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10972].end |
28565.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10972].text |
也可以按照工程會的遙控無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10973].start |
28565.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10973].end |
28567.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10973].text |
採購作業指引及各案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10974].start |
28567.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10974].end |
28569.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10974].text |
這個契約納入治安與非供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[10975].start |
28569.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10975].end |
28571.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10975].text |
非供應鏈的這個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].start |
28571.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].end |
28573.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].text |
那建立也無需立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[10977].start |
28573.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10977].end |
28575.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10977].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10978].start |
28576.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10978].end |
28578.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10978].text |
數畫部陳慧品主密 |
| transcript.whisperx[10979].start |
28581.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10979].end |
28583.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10979].text |
我看你們的書面報告都是尊重大院嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10980].start |
28583.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10980].end |
28585.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10980].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].start |
28585.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].end |
28587.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].text |
好 那也就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].start |
28588.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].end |
28592.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].text |
好 再來我們進行國民黨團提案的第12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].start |
28600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].end |
28602.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].text |
好 那第12條說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].start |
28603.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].end |
28606.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].text |
這個國防部在辦理軍用無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10985].start |
28606.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10985].end |
28608.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10985].text |
無人載具的這個採購及 |
| transcript.whisperx[10986].start |
28608.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10986].end |
28610.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10986].text |
政府機關辦理公務無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10987].start |
28611.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10987].end |
28613.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10987].text |
載具的這個採購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10988].start |
28613.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10988].end |
28615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10988].text |
應該按照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10989].start |
28615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10989].end |
28617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10989].text |
現行採購的規範及各案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10990].start |
28617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10990].end |
28619.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10990].text |
契約要求辦理非供應鏈的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].start |
28619.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].end |
28621.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].text |
管理 那民用無人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].start |
28621.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].end |
28623.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].text |
載具那則應該按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].start |
28623.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].end |
28625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].text |
它產品的類型 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].start |
28625.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].end |
28627.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].text |
重量用途還有使用的情境 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].start |
28627.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].end |
28629.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].text |
分別符合適用的這個商品檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].start |
28629.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].end |
28631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].text |
非常安全或 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].start |
28631.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].end |
28633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].text |
資通安全的這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].start |
28633.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].end |
28635.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].text |
另外數畫部也已經成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].start |
28635.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].end |
28637.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].text |
無人機資安聯合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].start |
28637.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].end |
28639.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].text |
驗測實驗室辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].start |
28639.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].end |
28641.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].text |
無人機資安檢測及相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11002].start |
28642.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11002].end |
28644.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11002].text |
的認驗證的這個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].start |
28644.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].end |
28646.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].text |
那通過檢測的這個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11004].start |
28646.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11004].end |
28648.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11004].text |
的資訊也已經公佈在官方網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[11005].start |
28648.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11005].end |
28650.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11005].text |
所以我們也是建立不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].start |
28650.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].end |
28652.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].text |
立法規範 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11007].start |
28652.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11007].end |
28654.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11007].text |
好 數畫部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11008].start |
28654.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11008].end |
28656.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11008].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11009].start |
28655.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11009].end |
28657.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11009].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11010].start |
28658.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11010].end |
28660.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11010].text |
好 接下來國民黨同體案第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11011].start |
28662.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11011].end |
28664.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11011].text |
好 那第13條這邊說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11012].start |
28665.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11012].end |
28667.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11012].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11013].start |
28672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11013].end |
28674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11013].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11014].start |
28695.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11014].end |
28697.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11014].text |
那另外協助業者也接軌國際市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11015].start |
28697.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11015].end |
28699.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11015].text |
那現行的計畫及合作機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11016].start |
28699.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11016].end |
28701.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11016].text |
已經可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[11017].start |
28701.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11017].end |
28703.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11017].text |
讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11018].start |
28703.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11018].end |
28705.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11018].text |
產業及國際情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11019].start |
28705.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11019].end |
28707.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11019].text |
來做談進的這個推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[11020].start |
28707.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11020].end |
28709.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11020].text |
建立無需 |
| transcript.whisperx[11021].start |
28709.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11021].end |
28711.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11021].text |
立法規範 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11022].start |
28713.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11022].end |
28715.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11022].text |
好 所以一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11023].start |
28715.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11023].end |
28717.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11023].text |
就是保留 那我們一併加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].start |
28717.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].end |
28719.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].text |
所以針對國民黨團體案第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11025].start |
28719.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11025].end |
28721.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11025].text |
第17條 第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11026].start |
28721.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11026].end |
28723.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11026].text |
第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11027].start |
28724.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11027].end |
28726.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11027].text |
經濟部簡單回應就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[11028].start |
28726.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11028].end |
28728.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11028].text |
是建立 因為這個在統籌營相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11029].start |
28728.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11029].end |
28730.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11029].text |
計畫裡面 還有現行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11030].start |
28730.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11030].end |
28732.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11030].text |
相關的附繞機制都已經有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11031].start |
28732.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11031].end |
28734.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11031].text |
所以我們是建立無需立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11032].start |
28734.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11032].end |
28736.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11032].text |
規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[11033].start |
28735.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11033].end |
28737.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11033].text |
好 一樣一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11034].start |
28737.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11034].end |
28739.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11034].text |
接下來我們進行台灣民眾黨團體案第4條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11035].start |
28739.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11035].end |
28741.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11035].text |
委員宗嘉兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[11036].start |
28743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11036].end |
28745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11036].text |
提案的第3條跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11037].start |
28745.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11037].end |
28747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11037].text |
委員王定義提案的第4條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11038].start |
28747.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11038].end |
28749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11038].text |
主要是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].start |
28749.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].end |
28751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].text |
成立這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11040].start |
28751.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11040].end |
28753.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11040].text |
戰略發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11041].start |
28753.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11041].end |
28755.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11041].text |
特色特別委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11042].start |
28755.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11042].end |
28757.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11042].text |
或者是像這個無人載具自主發展委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].start |
28757.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].end |
28759.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].text |
等等 請經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].start |
28759.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].end |
28761.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].text |
好 那這個部分經濟部說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11045].start |
28761.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11045].end |
28763.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11045].text |
那目前行政已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11046].start |
28764.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11046].end |
28766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11046].text |
這個核定的統籌型計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].start |
28766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].end |
28768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].text |
那副院長也定期會召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[11048].start |
28768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11048].end |
28770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11048].text |
無人載具的產業發展及 |
| transcript.whisperx[11049].start |
28770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11049].end |
28772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11049].text |
管理的機制跨部會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].start |
28772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].end |
28774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].text |
專案會議來統籌協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].start |
28774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].end |
28776.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].text |
推動無人載具的國防自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].start |
28776.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].end |
28778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].text |
產業發展及民主供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].start |
28778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].end |
28780.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].text |
等相關的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].start |
28780.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].end |
28782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].text |
目前的行政協調的機制主導的層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].start |
28782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].end |
28784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].text |
跟參與的成員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].start |
28784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].end |
28786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].text |
都足以來推動相關的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].start |
28786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].end |
28788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].text |
並有監察管制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].start |
28788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].end |
28790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].text |
管考的這個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].start |
28790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].end |
28792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].text |
建立不需要立法 吝嗇委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].start |
28792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].end |
28794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].start |
28794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].end |
28796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].text |
我只問一個簡單問題 現在現行的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].start |
28796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].end |
28798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].text |
有外聘的學友專家 人數那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].start |
28798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].end |
28800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].text |
有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11064].start |
28800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11064].end |
28802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11064].text |
我們在一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].start |
28802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].end |
28804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].text |
院會是沒有 下面才有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].start |
28804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].end |
28806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].text |
OK 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].start |
28806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].end |
28808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].text |
了解現況 那一樣一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].start |
28809.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].end |
28811.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].text |
接下來的話 台灣民眾黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].start |
28811.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].end |
28813.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].text |
提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].start |
28813.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].end |
28815.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].text |
委員中家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].start |
28815.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].end |
28817.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].text |
對不起 台灣民眾黨團提案的第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].start |
28819.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].end |
28821.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].text |
好 那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].start |
28821.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].end |
28823.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].text |
超市劇的飛行 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].start |
28823.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].end |
28825.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].text |
跟夜間飛行 群飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].start |
28825.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].end |
28827.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].text |
自主飛行 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].start |
28826.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].end |
28828.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].text |
等的這些無人機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].start |
28828.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].end |
28830.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].text |
飛航管制的制度已經由 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].start |
28830.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].end |
28832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].text |
交通部民航局 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].start |
28832.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].end |
28834.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].text |
按照民用航空法及相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].start |
28834.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].end |
28836.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].text |
法規來辦理 並已經納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].start |
28836.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].end |
28838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].text |
統籌型計畫 持續檢討進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].start |
28838.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].end |
28840.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].text |
建立不需立法來規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].start |
28840.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].end |
28842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].text |
以上 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].start |
28842.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].end |
28844.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].text |
一樣的提案保留 接下來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].start |
28844.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].end |
28846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].text |
我們看台灣民眾黨團提案第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].start |
28846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].end |
28848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].text |
委員中家賓提案第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].start |
28848.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].end |
28850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].text |
王定宇提案的第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].start |
28850.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].end |
28852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].text |
主要是在供應鏈分級認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].start |
28852.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].end |
28854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].text |
跟可信鏈供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].start |
28855.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].end |
28857.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].text |
那進一步說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].start |
28857.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].end |
28859.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].text |
國安部採購軍用無人機或 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].start |
28859.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].end |
28861.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].text |
公務機關採購民用無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].start |
28861.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].end |
28863.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].text |
應依現行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].start |
28863.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].end |
28865.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].text |
這個軍事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].start |
28865.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].end |
28867.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].text |
跟公務的採購規範及 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].start |
28867.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].end |
28869.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].text |
個案契約要求來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].start |
28869.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].end |
28871.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].text |
非用供應鏈的這個管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].start |
28871.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].end |
28873.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].text |
那至於民用無人機 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].start |
28873.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].end |
28875.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].text |
並由這個經濟部標準檢驗局 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].start |
28875.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].end |
28877.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].text |
跟交通部的民航局以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].start |
28877.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].end |
28879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].text |
速發部來分別辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].start |
28879.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].end |
28881.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].text |
善民檢驗 非常安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].start |
28881.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].end |
28883.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].text |
以及自通安全的相關的檢測 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].start |
28883.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].end |
28885.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].text |
另外經濟部也已經將外國 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].start |
28885.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].end |
28887.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].text |
政府及國際認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].start |
28887.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].end |
28889.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].text |
認證的這個機構合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].start |
28889.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].end |
28891.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].text |
納入統籌型計畫中 並 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].start |
28891.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].end |
28893.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].text |
支持公務員推動GreenUS |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].start |
28893.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].end |
28895.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].text |
的驗證機制 協助業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].start |
28895.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].end |
28897.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].text |
接軌國際市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].start |
28897.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].end |
28899.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].text |
因此建立無需立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].start |
28900.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].end |
28902.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].start |
28903.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].end |
28905.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].text |
對於這個供應鏈的分級認證制度呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].start |
28905.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].end |
28907.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].text |
這個是要另案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].start |
28908.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].end |
28910.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].text |
好好的來討論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].start |
28910.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].end |
28912.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].text |
那因為今天那麼多版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].start |
28912.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].end |
28914.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].text |
很多版本聚焦在採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].start |
28914.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].end |
28916.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].text |
那討論到其他的包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].start |
28916.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].end |
28918.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].text |
本席剛剛的前面14條我已經表達了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].start |
28918.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].end |
28920.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].text |
我的版本我是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].start |
28920.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].end |
28922.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].text |
有必要但是可以跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].start |
28922.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].end |
28924.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].text |
無人載具 創新科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].start |
28924.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].end |
28926.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].text |
實驗條例來共同做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].start |
28926.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].end |
28928.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].text |
那麼至於後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].start |
28928.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].end |
28930.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].text |
第三條也好第十條也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].start |
28930.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].end |
28932.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].text |
本席的版本 剛有說了不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].start |
28932.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].end |
28934.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].text |
單獨條文保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].start |
28934.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].end |
28936.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].text |
我是會傾向後面我的條文的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].start |
28936.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].end |
28938.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].text |
而今天溢出了採購方案的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].start |
28938.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].end |
28940.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].text |
就是保留在本委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].start |
28940.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].end |
28942.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].text |
我們另日我們會再有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].start |
28942.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].end |
28944.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].text |
來進行 所以我雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].start |
28944.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].end |
28946.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].text |
對於民眾黨團的版本 |
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28946.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11134].end |
28948.05 |
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我並沒有認同是可以 |
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28948.05 |
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28950.05 |
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同意 但是呢 |
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28950.05 |
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28952.05 |
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我也可以接受它保留 |
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28952.05 |
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28954.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11137].text |
但是我的部分是保留在 |
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28954.05 |
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28956.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11138].text |
委員會 並只說明 |
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28958.61 |
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28960.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11139].text |
也是整個版本喔 |
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28961.5 |
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28963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11140].text |
就是你的整個版本而已 |
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28963.5 |
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28965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11141].text |
那其他的版本我們就是送 |
| transcript.whisperx[11142].start |
28966.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11142].end |
28968.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11142].text |
OK 就是你的版本留在委員會 |
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28968.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11143].end |
28970.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11143].text |
OK 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11144].start |
28972.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11144].end |
28974.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11144].text |
好 所以這一個 |
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28974.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11145].end |
28976.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11145].text |
一樣這邊都是保留 |
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28979.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11146].end |
28981.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11146].text |
好 接下來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[11147].start |
28981.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11147].end |
28983.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11147].text |
台灣民眾黨團提案第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].start |
28990.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].end |
28992.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].text |
經濟部說明有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11149].start |
28992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11149].end |
28994.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11149].text |
這一條裡面涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11150].start |
28994.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11150].end |
28996.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11150].text |
這個網路通訊 |
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28996.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11151].end |
28998.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11151].text |
評估的規劃以及相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].start |
28998.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].end |
29000.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].text |
基礎設施涉及到速發部 |
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29001.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11153].end |
29003.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11153].text |
指無線電 |
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29003.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11154].end |
29005.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11154].text |
頻率規劃與 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].start |
29005.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].end |
29007.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].text |
核配 還有NCC |
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29007.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11156].end |
29009.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11156].text |
國家通訊傳播委員會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].start |
29009.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].end |
29011.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].text |
通訊傳播及設評器材的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].start |
29011.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].end |
29013.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].text |
管理 以及交通部國防部 |
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29013.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11159].end |
29015.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11159].text |
等相關機關的這個權責 |
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29015.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11160].end |
29017.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11160].text |
目前均已經有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].start |
29017.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].end |
29019.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].text |
法規及機制可以依循 |
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29019.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11162].end |
29021.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11162].text |
辦理 建立無需 |
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29021.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].end |
29023.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].text |
立法規範 以上 |
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29025.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11164].end |
29027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11164].text |
所以這個保留 |
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29027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11165].end |
29029.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11165].text |
看起來大家都想保留 |
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29029.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11166].end |
29031.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11166].text |
所以我們現在就從 |
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29031.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].end |
29033.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].text |
第33月開始 |
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29033.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].end |
29035.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].text |
到後面 |
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29035.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].end |
29037.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].text |
其他的法案的部分 |
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29039.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].end |
29041.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].text |
等等等等35月不行喔 |
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29041.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].end |
29043.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].text |
35月是國防採購喔 |
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29043.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].end |
29045.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].text |
這個不是產業輔導喔 |
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29045.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].end |
29047.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].text |
我這邊是不是主席 |
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29047.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].end |
29049.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].text |
好 好 好 那我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].start |
29049.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].end |
29051.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].text |
台灣民眾黨團的第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].start |
29051.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].end |
29053.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].text |
第十條 |
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29053.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].end |
29055.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].text |
一直到台灣民眾黨團的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].start |
29055.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].end |
29057.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].text |
第十一條保留 |
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29058.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].end |
29060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].text |
然後接下來我們進行的是 |
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29061.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].end |
29063.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].text |
台灣民眾黨團第十二條國防採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].start |
29063.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].end |
29065.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].text |
委員外事保 |
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29065.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].end |
29067.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].text |
提案第十六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].start |
29067.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].end |
29069.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].text |
鍾嘉斌提案的第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].start |
29069.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].end |
29071.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].text |
以及王定宇傳譯的第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].start |
29073.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].end |
29075.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].start |
29097.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].end |
29099.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].start |
29126.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].end |
29128.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].text |
好 鍾委員 |
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29128.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].end |
29130.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].text |
雖然本席的第八條 |
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29130.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11189].end |
29132.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11189].text |
我剛才也建議本席的本案全案 |
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29132.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11190].end |
29134.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11190].text |
保留在委員會 |
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29134.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11191].end |
29136.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11191].text |
但是不代表我認同台灣民眾黨的第十二條 |
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29136.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11192].end |
29138.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11192].text |
因為這裡面都加 |
| transcript.whisperx[11193].start |
29138.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11193].end |
29140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11193].text |
國防部應如何 國防部應如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[11194].start |
29140.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11194].end |
29142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11194].text |
國防部應如何 國防部應如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[11195].start |
29142.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11195].end |
29144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11195].text |
這些都是強加 |
| transcript.whisperx[11196].start |
29144.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11196].end |
29146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11196].text |
一些不切實際的採購要求 |
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29146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11197].end |
29148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11197].text |
國防部現在最需要的 |
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29148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11198].end |
29150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11198].text |
不是應如何按照這些法令去採購 |
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29150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11199].end |
29152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11199].text |
是 |
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29152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11200].end |
29154.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11200].text |
需要怎麼樣 |
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29154.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11201].end |
29156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11201].text |
要受到既有的傳統的採購的限制 |
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29156.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11202].end |
29158.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11202].text |
這是國防部不需要的 |
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29158.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11203].end |
29160.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11203].text |
寫了這麼多原則性的內容 |
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29160.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11204].end |
29162.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11204].text |
完全對國防部沒有任何的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[11205].start |
29162.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11205].end |
29164.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11205].text |
所以呢 本席反對 |
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29164.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11206].end |
29166.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11206].text |
第十二條 |
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29166.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11207].end |
29168.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11207].text |
那至於第十六條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11208].start |
29168.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11208].end |
29170.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11208].text |
這個代事保委員的B板呢 |
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29170.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11209].end |
29172.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11209].text |
跟本席的內容是稍微相近 |
| transcript.whisperx[11210].start |
29172.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11210].end |
29174.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11210].text |
但是看代委員怎麼判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[11211].start |
29174.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11211].end |
29176.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11211].text |
是不是要留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11212].start |
29176.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11212].end |
29178.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11212].text |
大家以後一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11213].start |
29178.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11213].end |
29180.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11213].text |
不然的話本席是反對民眾黨團第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11214].start |
29184.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11214].end |
29186.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11214].text |
好 保留 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11215].start |
29188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11215].end |
29190.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11215].text |
接下來 第30的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].start |
29190.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].end |
29192.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].text |
那至於保委員的第17條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11217].start |
29206.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11217].end |
29208.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11217].text |
36月 |
| transcript.whisperx[11218].start |
29209.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11218].end |
29211.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11218].text |
好 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].start |
29211.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].end |
29213.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].text |
這個有關公務機 |
| transcript.whisperx[11220].start |
29213.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11220].end |
29215.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11220].text |
公務部門採購需求的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[11221].start |
29215.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11221].end |
29217.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11221].text |
還有國際市場的開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].start |
29217.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].end |
29219.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].text |
以及產業外銷輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[11223].start |
29219.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11223].end |
29221.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11223].text |
等措施已經納入統籌型計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].start |
29221.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].end |
29223.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].text |
那各政府機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11225].start |
29223.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11225].end |
29225.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11225].text |
公立學校跟公營事業辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].start |
29225.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].end |
29227.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].text |
無人機的採購 也可以按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].start |
29227.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].end |
29229.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].text |
政府採購法 以及工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].start |
29229.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].end |
29231.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].text |
訂定的遙控無人機採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].start |
29231.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].end |
29233.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].text |
作業指引來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].start |
29233.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].end |
29235.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].text |
具有非榮及國產零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[11231].start |
29235.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11231].end |
29237.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11231].text |
使用的規範 建立不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11232].start |
29237.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11232].end |
29239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11232].text |
訂立法規範 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].start |
29240.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].end |
29242.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].text |
好 一樣保留送委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11234].start |
29242.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11234].end |
29244.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11234].text |
接下來 台灣民眾黨團第13條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11235].start |
29247.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11235].end |
29249.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11235].text |
好 那第13條有關無人機的產業盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[11236].start |
29249.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11236].end |
29251.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11236].text |
技術能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[11237].start |
29251.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11237].end |
29253.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11237].text |
檢測的驗證 測試場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[11238].start |
29253.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11238].end |
29255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11238].text |
人才培訓 公務無人機的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[11239].start |
29255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11239].end |
29257.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11239].text |
共同供應企業以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[11240].start |
29257.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11240].end |
29259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11240].text |
國際合作等相關的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11241].start |
29259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11241].end |
29261.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11241].text |
都已經納入統籌型計畫來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[11242].start |
29262.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11242].end |
29264.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11242].text |
但是因為資料涉及到營業秘密 |
| transcript.whisperx[11243].start |
29264.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11243].end |
29266.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11243].text |
國防機閩的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11244].start |
29266.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11244].end |
29268.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11244].text |
個人的資料等 |
| transcript.whisperx[11245].start |
29268.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11245].end |
29270.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11245].text |
考量資訊集中的治安風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[11246].start |
29270.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11246].end |
29272.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11246].text |
且不宜對外公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[11247].start |
29272.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11247].end |
29274.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11247].text |
建立不需要訂立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[11248].start |
29274.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11248].end |
29276.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11248].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].start |
29276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].end |
29278.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].start |
29277.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].end |
29281.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].text |
因為我們已經有寫說說你會有涉及國防機密等等會去識別的話公佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11251].start |
29281.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11251].end |
29283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11251].text |
好 但這還是一律保留啦 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].start |
29285.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].end |
29287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].text |
再來的話 台灣民眾黨團第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].start |
29287.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].end |
29289.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].text |
鍾嘉斌提案的第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].start |
29289.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].end |
29291.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].text |
王定宇提案第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].start |
29293.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].end |
29295.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].text |
法治的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].start |
29296.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].end |
29298.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].text |
好 那這一條就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].start |
29298.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].end |
29300.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].text |
有關機關辦理採購補助獎勵投融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].start |
29300.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].end |
29302.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].text |
或信用保證等作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].start |
29302.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].end |
29304.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].text |
如發現資格不符 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].start |
29304.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].end |
29306.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].text |
虛偽造假 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].start |
29306.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].end |
29308.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].text |
或其他違法的情事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].start |
29308.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].end |
29310.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].text |
在政府採購法 產創條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].start |
29310.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].end |
29312.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].text |
以及相關的法令都定有查核跟處分的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].start |
29312.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].end |
29314.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].text |
那補助案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].start |
29314.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].end |
29316.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].text |
都可以按照產創條例的第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].start |
29316.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].end |
29318.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].text |
第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].start |
29318.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].end |
29320.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].text |
授權訂定的補助辦法及 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].start |
29320.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].end |
29322.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].text |
契約規定辦理查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].start |
29322.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].end |
29324.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].text |
停止撥款 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].start |
29324.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].end |
29326.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].text |
或廢止補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].start |
29326.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].end |
29328.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].text |
並追回款項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].start |
29328.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].end |
29330.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].text |
政府採購法的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].start |
29329.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].end |
29333.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].text |
也可以按照政府採購法及契約規定辦理履約查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].start |
29334.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].end |
29336.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].start |
29336.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].end |
29338.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].start |
29338.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].end |
29340.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].start |
29340.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].end |
29342.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].start |
29342.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].end |
29344.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].start |
29344.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].end |
29346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].start |
29346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].end |
29348.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].start |
29348.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].end |
29350.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].start |
29350.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].end |
29352.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].start |
29352.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].end |
29354.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].start |
29354.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].end |
29356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].start |
29356.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].end |
29358.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].start |
29358.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].end |
29360.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].start |
29360.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].end |
29362.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].start |
29342.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].end |
29344.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].text |
政府採購法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].start |
29344.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].end |
29346.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].text |
及技術規格查核等四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].start |
29346.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].end |
29348.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].text |
應由採購機關、補助機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].start |
29348.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].end |
29350.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].text |
以及各目的事業主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11292].start |
29350.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11292].end |
29352.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11292].text |
按照權責辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11293].start |
29352.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11293].end |
29354.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11293].text |
數位發展部也 |
| transcript.whisperx[11294].start |
29354.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11294].end |
29356.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11294].text |
數發部既有的無人機資安檢測及認證機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].start |
29356.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].end |
29358.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].text |
也可就資安 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].start |
29358.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].end |
29360.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].text |
提供協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].start |
29360.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].end |
29362.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].text |
涉及到炸機偽造文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].start |
29362.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].end |
29364.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].text |
或使公務人員登載不實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].start |
29364.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].end |
29366.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].text |
等情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].start |
29366.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].end |
29368.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].text |
則可按照刑法等相關規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].start |
29368.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].end |
29370.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].text |
來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].start |
29370.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].end |
29372.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].start |
29372.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].end |
29374.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].text |
請求法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].start |
29374.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].end |
29376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].text |
好,一樣保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].start |
29376.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].end |
29378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].text |
接下來的話我們看第四十頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].start |
29378.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].end |
29380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].text |
台灣民眾黨團提案第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].start |
29381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].end |
29383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].text |
好,那這一條有關無人機的產業發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].start |
29383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].end |
29385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].text |
空域的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].start |
29385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].end |
29387.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].text |
測試場域以及可信任供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].start |
29387.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].end |
29389.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].text |
等相關的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].start |
29389.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].end |
29391.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].text |
已經納入統籌型計畫推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].start |
29391.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].end |
29393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].text |
並由相關機關應照權責辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].start |
29393.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].end |
29395.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].text |
建立無需立法規範,以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].start |
29396.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].end |
29398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].text |
好,一樣保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].start |
29398.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].end |
29400.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].text |
接下來的話,第四十頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].start |
29400.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].end |
29402.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].text |
委員拉士堡的第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].start |
29402.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].end |
29404.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].text |
鍾家斌提案第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].start |
29404.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].end |
29406.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].text |
王定穎提案的第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].start |
29406.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].end |
29408.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].text |
租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].start |
29408.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].end |
29410.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].text |
這個我提醒市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].start |
29410.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].end |
29412.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].text |
這個是鼓勵廠商投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].start |
29412.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].end |
29414.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].text |
無人機產業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].start |
29414.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].end |
29416.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].text |
你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].start |
29416.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].end |
29418.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].text |
緊正回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].start |
29418.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].end |
29420.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].text |
你不要看到在野黨就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].start |
29420.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].end |
29422.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].text |
不要,不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].start |
29422.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].end |
29424.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].text |
鼓勵廠商給他一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].start |
29424.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].end |
29426.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].text |
你不要管廠商不投不投意 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].start |
29426.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].end |
29428.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].text |
就是鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].start |
29428.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].end |
29430.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].text |
你不要等明天人家性質做很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].start |
29430.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].end |
29432.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].text |
說經濟部反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].start |
29432.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].end |
29434.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].text |
這個廠商投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].start |
29434.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].end |
29436.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].text |
不獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].start |
29436.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].end |
29438.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].text |
廠商投入無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].start |
29438.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].end |
29440.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].text |
小心喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].start |
29440.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].end |
29442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].text |
好,跟我們報告,並不是說經濟部反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].start |
29442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].end |
29444.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].text |
是現有的機制就已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].start |
29444.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].end |
29446.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].text |
這些獎勵的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].start |
29446.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].end |
29448.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].text |
我們提高啦,比你現在好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].start |
29448.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].end |
29450.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].text |
好,我說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].start |
29450.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].end |
29452.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].text |
就是現有的產創條例第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].start |
29452.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].end |
29454.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].text |
我們就研發支出的投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].start |
29454.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].end |
29456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].text |
已經提供這些獎勵的誘運 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].start |
29456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].end |
29458.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].text |
那第十條是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].start |
29458.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].end |
29460.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].text |
投資抵減多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].start |
29460.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].end |
29462.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].text |
目前是15% |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].start |
29462.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].end |
29464.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].text |
15%我25%啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].start |
29464.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].end |
29466.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].text |
我比你多啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].start |
29466.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].end |
29468.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].text |
對不對,我比你多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].start |
29468.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].end |
29470.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].text |
用你剪輯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].start |
29470.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].end |
29472.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].text |
另外就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].start |
29472.56 |
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29476.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].text |
也有針對研發跟設備的支出提高抵減率 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].start |
29476.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].end |
29478.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].text |
你們是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].start |
29478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].end |
29480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].text |
就20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].start |
29480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].end |
29482.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].text |
20億可以做投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].start |
29482.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].end |
29484.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].text |
可以做這個投資抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].start |
29484.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].end |
29486.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].text |
好,而且研發支出與設備的投資的性質 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].start |
29486.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].end |
29488.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].text |
跟現行的優惠不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].start |
29489.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].end |
29491.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].text |
建立回歸這個產創條例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].start |
29491.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].end |
29493.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].text |
來做整體的一個檢討 |
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29493.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].end |
29495.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].text |
產創不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].start |
29495.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].end |
29497.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].text |
不宜針對個別的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].start |
29497.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].end |
29499.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].text |
條例來另一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].start |
29499.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].end |
29501.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].text |
不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].start |
29501.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].end |
29503.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].text |
這樣講就要給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].start |
29503.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].end |
29505.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].text |
變成第二座的福國神山 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].start |
29505.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].end |
29507.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].text |
現在還說不要對各個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].start |
29507.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].end |
29509.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].text |
千萬不要對他,市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].start |
29509.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].end |
29511.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].text |
你膝蓋是粉印喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].start |
29514.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].end |
29516.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].text |
中間那邊委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].start |
29516.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].end |
29518.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].text |
沒問題,因為我已經表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].start |
29518.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].end |
29520.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].text |
我的案子跟賴時寶有重疊的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].start |
29520.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].end |
29522.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].text |
但是我認為我要全案保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].start |
29522.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].end |
29524.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].text |
因為我需要更多的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].start |
29524.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].end |
29526.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].text |
來跟剛剛說的無人載具科技創新實驗條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].start |
29526.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].end |
29528.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].text |
來做個整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].start |
29528.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].end |
29530.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].text |
事實上我也看了賴委員的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].start |
29530.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].end |
29532.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].text |
其實經濟部長說的也沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].start |
29532.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].end |
29534.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].text |
這些既有的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].start |
29534.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].end |
29536.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].text |
既有的法制都具備 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].start |
29536.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].end |
29538.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].text |
只是是不是要做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].start |
29538.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].end |
29540.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].text |
我是覺得有討論餘地 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].start |
29540.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].end |
29542.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].text |
那現在賴時寶委員要保留我們就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].start |
29542.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].end |
29544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].text |
楊全委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].start |
29544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].end |
29546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].text |
我覺得這個條文很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].start |
29546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].end |
29548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].text |
因為我也是提案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].start |
29547.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].end |
29549.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].text |
在我們目前所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].start |
29549.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].end |
29551.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].text |
是15%而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].start |
29551.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].end |
29553.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].text |
那我們今天的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].start |
29553.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].end |
29555.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].text |
所以行政部門我們大家討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].start |
29555.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].end |
29557.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].text |
答不成就是送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].start |
29557.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].end |
29559.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].text |
我們再繼續討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].start |
29559.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].end |
29561.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].text |
但是不要沒有看到內容就認為不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].start |
29561.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].end |
29563.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].text |
我認為需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].start |
29563.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].end |
29565.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].text |
他只有15%根本沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].start |
29565.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].end |
29567.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].text |
真的充分去協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].start |
29567.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].end |
29569.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].text |
而且在我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].start |
29569.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].end |
29571.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].text |
潛量投資的抵減 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].start |
29571.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].end |
29573.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].text |
你剛才說是21% |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].start |
29573.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].end |
29575.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].text |
那你21%的標準是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].start |
29575.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].end |
29577.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].text |
我提的是公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].start |
29577.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].end |
29579.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].text |
該無人載具公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].start |
29579.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].end |
29581.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].text |
當年度因賴營利事業所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].start |
29581.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].end |
29583.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].text |
而50%違憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].start |
29583.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].end |
29585.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].text |
那你有一個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].start |
29585.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].end |
29587.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].text |
那你今天20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].start |
29587.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].end |
29589.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].text |
到底你們的比例是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].start |
29590.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].end |
29592.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].text |
喜歡的多一點不喜歡少一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].start |
29592.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].end |
29594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].text |
還是多少額度怎麼樣比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].start |
29594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].end |
29596.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].start |
29595.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].end |
29597.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].text |
不能如此我們是把比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].start |
29597.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].end |
29599.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].text |
訂的很清楚說50% |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].start |
29599.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].end |
29601.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].text |
以內嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].start |
29601.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].end |
29603.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].text |
所以不能一句話就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].start |
29603.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].end |
29605.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].text |
這個沒有必要你們現在已經有你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].start |
29605.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].end |
29607.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].text |
哪裡有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].start |
29606.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].end |
29608.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].text |
比例也不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].start |
29608.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].end |
29610.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].text |
你的內容也不一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].start |
29611.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].end |
29613.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].text |
那個主席很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].start |
29613.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].end |
29615.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].text |
跟我們報告就是我們的20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].start |
29615.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].end |
29617.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].text |
是全部都可以來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].start |
29617.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].end |
29619.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].text |
投資體檢他沒有一個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].start |
29619.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].end |
29621.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].text |
的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].start |
29621.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].end |
29623.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].text |
這個更奇怪他完全沒有比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].start |
29623.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].end |
29625.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].text |
沒有一個規矩 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].start |
29625.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].end |
29627.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].text |
你要把那個定出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].start |
29627.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].end |
29629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].text |
對啊營利事業所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].start |
29629.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].end |
29631.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].text |
所以我們一定有怎麼可能20億都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].start |
29631.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].end |
29633.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].text |
沒有那個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].start |
29633.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].end |
29635.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].text |
沒有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].start |
29635.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].end |
29637.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].text |
還是項目多少還是金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].start |
29637.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].end |
29639.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].text |
多少20億都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].start |
29639.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].end |
29641.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].text |
那不是你隨便你要講多少就多少嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].start |
29641.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].end |
29643.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].text |
他如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].start |
29643.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].end |
29645.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].text |
這個採購設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].start |
29645.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].end |
29647.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].text |
或是採購一些研發設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].start |
29647.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].end |
29649.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].text |
都可以來做投資體檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].start |
29649.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].end |
29651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].text |
所以也沒有額度的限制也沒有比例的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].start |
29651.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].end |
29653.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].text |
20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].start |
29653.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].end |
29655.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].text |
總Total20億但是20億每一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].start |
29655.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].end |
29657.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].text |
來的沒有金額的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].start |
29657.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].end |
29659.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].text |
也沒有比例的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].start |
29659.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].end |
29661.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].text |
就最高20億最高20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].start |
29661.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].end |
29663.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].text |
但是要拿憑證來核銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].start |
29663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].end |
29665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].text |
我們還是希望了解內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].start |
29665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].end |
29667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].text |
我們希望多支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].start |
29667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].end |
29669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].text |
所以這條很重要通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].start |
29672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].end |
29676.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].text |
建議不一定立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].start |
29678.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].end |
29680.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].text |
不要保留在紀錄協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].start |
29685.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].end |
29687.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].text |
在43開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].start |
29687.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].end |
29689.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].text |
一直跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].start |
29690.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].end |
29692.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].text |
58月的上面都是賴世保委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].start |
29694.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].end |
29696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].start |
29696.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].end |
29698.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].text |
體驗好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].start |
29701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].end |
29703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].text |
是不是我們這個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].start |
29703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].end |
29705.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].start |
29706.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].end |
29708.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].text |
賴委員講到這個生技產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].start |
29709.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].end |
29711.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].text |
跟無人機產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].start |
29711.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].end |
29713.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].text |
就是要比照來生技產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].start |
29713.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].end |
29715.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].text |
那我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].start |
29714.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].end |
29716.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].text |
認為就是說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].start |
29716.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].end |
29718.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].text |
業者他已經可以按照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].start |
29718.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].end |
29720.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].text |
產創條例來這個做 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].start |
29720.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].end |
29722.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].text |
一些投資體檢跟設備的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].start |
29722.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].end |
29724.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].text |
一個採購的一個體檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].start |
29724.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].end |
29726.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].text |
所以我們是建立就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].start |
29726.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].end |
29728.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].text |
這個部分不需要再令立法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].start |
29731.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].end |
29733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].start |
29736.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].end |
29738.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].start |
29738.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].end |
29740.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].text |
所以就是從那個第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].start |
29740.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].end |
29742.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].text |
沒有啦就從這個他的第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].start |
29742.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].end |
29744.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].text |
一直到第 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].start |
29744.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].end |
29746.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].text |
賴世保委員的第 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].start |
29747.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].end |
29749.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].start |
29750.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].end |
29752.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].start |
29753.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].end |
29755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].start |
29755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].end |
29757.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].text |
六到十三條啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].start |
29757.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].end |
29759.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].text |
這邊就全部保留就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].start |
29759.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].end |
29761.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].text |
還有第十八 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].start |
29763.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].end |
29765.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].text |
六到十三對還有到第十八 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].start |
29767.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].end |
29771.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].text |
好接下來的話我們進行到第58月 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].start |
29772.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].end |
29774.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].text |
福岸市委員宗教 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].start |
29774.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].end |
29776.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].text |
邊的20元提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].start |
29776.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].end |
29778.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].text |
王定義提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].start |
29778.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].end |
29780.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].text |
資安的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].start |
29779.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].end |
29781.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].text |
法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].start |
29782.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].end |
29784.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].text |
我是7月對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].start |
29786.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].end |
29788.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].text |
57月的另外第五條也是保留啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].start |
29794.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].end |
29796.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].text |
然後接下來是58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].start |
29796.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].end |
29798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].text |
宗教邊提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].start |
29798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].end |
29800.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].text |
跟王定義提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].start |
29800.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].end |
29802.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].text |
宗教邊委員已經表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].start |
29802.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].end |
29804.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].text |
他要全案保留了所以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].start |
29804.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].end |
29806.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].text |
就保留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].start |
29806.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].end |
29808.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].text |
對啊因為我念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].start |
29808.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].end |
29810.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].text |
就是王定義也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].start |
29810.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].end |
29812.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].start |
29816.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].end |
29818.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].text |
賴世保委員的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].start |
29819.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].end |
29821.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].text |
這個就根本狗屁不通啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].start |
29821.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].end |
29823.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].text |
所以這個莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].start |
29823.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].end |
29825.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].text |
連最後第四項條文都沒有寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].start |
29826.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].end |
29828.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].start |
29827.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].end |
29829.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].text |
不要把自己這樣割啦連的話都講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].start |
29829.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].end |
29831.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].text |
靠追蹤耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].start |
29837.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].end |
29839.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].text |
好所以接下來我稍微念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].start |
29839.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].end |
29841.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].text |
從第58月開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].start |
29841.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].end |
29843.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].text |
就是委員宗教邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].start |
29843.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].end |
29845.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].text |
提案第九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].start |
29845.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].end |
29847.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].text |
王定義提案的第八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].start |
29847.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].end |
29849.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].text |
接下來宗教邊委員提案的第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].start |
29849.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].end |
29851.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].text |
王定義委員的第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].start |
29853.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].end |
29855.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].text |
再來宗教邊提案的第十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].start |
29855.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].end |
29857.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].text |
王定義委員的第十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].start |
29858.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].end |
29860.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].text |
以及宗教邊提案第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].start |
29860.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].end |
29862.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].text |
王定義等提案的第十四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].start |
29865.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].end |
29867.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].text |
還有到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].start |
29867.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].end |
29869.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].text |
委員王定義提案的第 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].start |
29870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].end |
29872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].text |
第十七 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].start |
29876.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].end |
29878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].text |
到這邊全部都 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].start |
29878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].end |
29880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].text |
保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].start |
29880.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].end |
29882.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].text |
然後接下來的話是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].start |
29883.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].end |
29885.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].text |
國民黨團體案的第二十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].start |
29891.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].end |
29893.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].text |
第二十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].start |
29896.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].end |
29898.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].text |
第二十一條應該是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].start |
29901.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].end |
29903.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].text |
稍微念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].start |
29910.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].end |
29912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].text |
好第二十條這個是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].start |
29912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].end |
29914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].text |
然後國民黨團體案的第 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].start |
29914.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].end |
29916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].text |
二十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].start |
29916.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].end |
29918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].text |
以及第二十一條正正準委的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].start |
29918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].end |
29920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].text |
修正動議一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].start |
29923.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].end |
29925.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].start |
29924.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].end |
29926.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].text |
國民黨團體案的第二十二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].start |
29926.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].end |
29928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].text |
實施細則台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].start |
29928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].end |
29930.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].text |
實施細則這一個應該是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].start |
29932.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].end |
29934.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].text |
好接下來的話到這邊是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].start |
29934.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].end |
29936.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].text |
行政院的第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].start |
29936.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].end |
29938.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].text |
國民黨團體案的第二十三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].start |
29938.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].end |
29940.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].text |
台灣民眾黨的第十七 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].start |
29940.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].end |
29942.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].text |
以及包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].start |
29944.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].end |
29946.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].text |
我一直念到後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].start |
29946.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].end |
29948.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].text |
當然等委員宗嘉兵到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].start |
29948.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].end |
29950.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].text |
委員王定義提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].start |
29950.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].end |
29952.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].text |
那主要是這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].start |
29952.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].end |
29954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].text |
跟這個實施期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].start |
29954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].end |
29956.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].text |
所以我想這個也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].start |
29956.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].end |
29958.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].text |
一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].start |
29963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].end |
29967.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].text |
好我們請一併宣讀協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].start |
29967.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].end |
29969.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].text |
宣讀協商結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].start |
29970.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].end |
29972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].text |
除討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].start |
29972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].end |
29974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].text |
第十三案委員宗嘉兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].start |
29974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].end |
29976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].text |
國光之族文宰劇採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].start |
29976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].end |
29978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].text |
產業創建特別條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].start |
29978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].end |
29980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].text |
入定及繼續審查外 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].start |
29980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].end |
29982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].text |
區各案之條名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].start |
29982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].end |
29984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].text |
法說條文及修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].start |
29984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].end |
29986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].text |
均保留算命會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].start |
29986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].end |
29988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].text |
處理商業協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].start |
29991.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].end |
29993.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].text |
不然抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].start |
29994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].end |
29996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].text |
我把它念錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].start |
29996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].end |
29998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].start |
29998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].end |
30000.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].text |
抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].start |
30001.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].end |
30003.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].text |
抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].start |
30002.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].end |
30004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].text |
我覺得好歹也坐一天嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].start |
30004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].end |
30006.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].text |
有一個公司就一個公司就沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].start |
30006.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].end |
30008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].text |
最後一條能不能有公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].start |
30008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].end |
30010.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].text |
最後一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].start |
30010.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].end |
30012.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].text |
行政部門講的不對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].start |
30012.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].end |
30014.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].text |
你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].start |
30014.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].end |
30016.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].text |
那個特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].start |
30016.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].end |
30018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].text |
預算期間從115年8月以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].start |
30018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].end |
30020.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].text |
8月就搞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].start |
30021.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].end |
30023.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].text |
所以這個是明顯的不對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].start |
30023.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].end |
30025.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].text |
這個這個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].start |
30026.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].end |
30028.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].start |
30032.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].end |
30036.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].text |
好請問各位同仁照剛剛宣讀的協商結論通過全有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].start |
30038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].end |
30040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].text |
通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].start |
30040.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].end |
30042.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].start |
30055.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].end |
30057.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].start |
30057.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].end |
30059.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].text |
需不需要加油黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].start |
30059.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].end |
30061.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].text |
輸加油黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].start |
30061.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].end |
30063.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].text |
問候討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].start |
30063.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].end |
30065.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].text |
有本席說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].start |
30065.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].end |
30067.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].text |
本次會議事例受權 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].start |
30067.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].end |
30069.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].text |
由主席核定後確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].start |
30069.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].end |
30071.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].text |
審查通過之條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].start |
30071.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].end |
30073.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].text |
相關法制用以受權 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].start |
30073.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].end |
30075.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].text |
主席及議事人員整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].start |
30075.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].end |
30077.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].text |
本日議程處理完 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].start |
30077.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].end |
30079.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].text |
謝謝大家先散會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].start |
30084.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].end |
30086.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].start |
30086.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].end |
30088.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].start |
30086.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].end |
30088.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].start |
30091.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].end |
30093.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].start |
30094.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].end |
30096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].text |
不要空包蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].start |
30096.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].end |
30098.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].text |
不要空包蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].start |
30098.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].end |
30100.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].text |
不要假資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].start |
30100.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].end |
30102.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].text |
不要空包蛋 |