| IVOD_ID |
17610 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17610 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-22T08:37:13+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-22T12:05:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:27:47 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528eeb0212237ce0bb1994111a39818cc9e9b5b204f4a37948b9f5c67a0f2c4583f65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查「遺產及贈與稅法」12案：（僅詢答）
(一) 本院委員吳秉叡等19人、委員郭昱晴等16人、委員林楚茵等16人、委員王美惠等17人、委員李坤城等19人、委員郭國文等21人分別擬具「遺產及贈與稅法部分條文修正草案」等6案。
(二) 本院委員賴惠員等16人擬具「遺產及贈與稅法第六條、第十五條及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員王鴻薇等18人、委員林思銘等18人分別擬具「遺產及贈與稅法第十五條條文修正草案」等2案。
(四) 本院委員張智倫等17人擬具「遺產及贈與稅法第十五條及第十七條之一條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員李彥秀等16人擬具「遺產及贈與稅法第十五條、第十七條之一及第二十九條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 本院委員賴士葆等26人擬具「遺產及贈與稅法第三十條及第四十一條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「土地稅法」9案：（僅詢答）
(一)本院委員李坤城等18人、委員馬文君等20人分別擬具「土地稅法增訂第十七條之一條文草案」等2案。【後1案如經院會復議，本次會議不予審查】
(二)行政院函請審議、本院委員王美惠等18人、委員傅崐萁等19人、委員李彥秀等18人、委員林倩綺等19人、委員賴士葆等41人、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人分別擬具「土地稅法第十七條之一及第十九條條文修正草案」等7案。【後5案如經院會復議，本次會議不予審查】
三、審查「房屋稅條例」9案：（僅詢答）
(一)本院委員李坤城等19人、委員馬文君等21人分別擬具「房屋稅條例增訂第五條之一條文草案」等2案。【後1案如經院會復議，本次會議不予審查】
(二)行政院函請審議、本院委員王美惠等19人、委員傅崐萁等19人、委員李彥秀等18人、委員林倩綺等19人、委員賴士葆等41人、委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人分別擬具「房屋稅條例第五條之一及第六條條文修正草案」等7案。【後5案如經院會復議，本次會議不予審查】
【7月22日及23日二天一次會】） |
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1379.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1381.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
請主任秘書報告出席委員人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
1383.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
1386.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
報告委員會出席委員以除法定人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
1388.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
1390.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
現在開始開會 請議事人員宣讀今日議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
1391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
1395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
一 審查遺產及贈予說法十二案警詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
1395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
1397.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
一 本院委員吳秉烈等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
1397.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1399.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
委員郭育晴等十六人 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
1399.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
1400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
委員林楚英等十六人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
1400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1402.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
委員王美慧等十七人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
1402.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1404.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
委員李坤城等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
1404.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
委員郭國文等二十一人分別擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
1407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1408.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
遺產及贈予說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
1408.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1410.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
部分條文修正草案等六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
1410.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1413.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
二 本院委員賴慧元等十六人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
1413.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1416.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
遺產及贈予說法第六條第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
1416.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1419.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
及第十七條之一條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
1419.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
三 本院委員王宏威等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
委員林思敏等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1423.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1427.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
分別擬具遺產及贈予說法第十五條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
1427.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1429.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
修正草案等二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1429.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1432.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
四 本院委員張志倫等十七人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1432.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
遺產及贈予說法第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
1433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1436.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
及第十七條之一條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
1436.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1439.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
五 本院委員李彥秀等十六人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
1439.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
遺產及贈予說法第十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1442.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
第十七條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1442.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1444.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
及第二十九條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1444.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1447.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
六 本院委員賴世寶等二十六人擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1447.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
遺產及贈予說法第三十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1452.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
及第四十一條條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1452.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1455.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
二 審查土地說法九案僅尋答 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1455.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
一 本院委員李坤城等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1459.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
委員馬文君等二十人 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1459.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
分別擬具土地說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1461.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
增訂第十九條 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
1461.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1464.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
十七條之一條文草案等二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1466.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
二 行政院韓琴審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1466.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1469.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
本院委員王美慧等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
1469.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1470.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
委員傅坤琦等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1470.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
委員李彥秀等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
委員林倩琦等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1476.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
委員賴世寶等四十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1476.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1478.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
委員鄭天才等十七人分別擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1478.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
土地說法第十七條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
及第十九條條文修正草案等七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1485.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
三 審查房屋稅條例九案僅尋答 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1490.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
一 本院委員李坤城等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1490.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1491.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
委員馬文君等二十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1491.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1493.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
分別擬具房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1493.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1497.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
條例增訂第五條之一條文草案等二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1497.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1499.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
二 行政院韓琴審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
1499.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
本院委員王美慧等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1502.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
委員傅坤琦等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1502.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1504.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
委員李彥秀等十八人 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1504.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1506.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
委員李倩琦等十九人 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1506.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1509.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
委員賴世寶等四十一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
1509.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1512.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
委員鄭天才等十七人分別擬具 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1512.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1514.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
房屋稅條例第十五條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1514.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
及第六條條文修正草案等七案 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1518.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1520.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1521.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1526.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
請立介紹在場委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1526.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1528.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
我們賴世寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1530.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1532.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
張志榮委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1533.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1534.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
林建基委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1535.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1536.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
林楚英委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1539.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
介紹一位政府官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1540.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
財政部莊翠玲部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1543.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
法治處姚寅處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1547.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1548.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
國庫署陳柏城署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1550.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1552.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
附稅署樓美中署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1553.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1554.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
官務署彭英偉署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1555.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1557.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
國會財政署曾國基署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1558.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1560.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
財政資料中心張文熙主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1564.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
台北國稅局協會美代理局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1567.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
北居國稅局李亞金局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
內政部地政司何俊達專門委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1575.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1578.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
國土管理署連委要專門委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1580.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1580.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1581.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1584.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
調布辦事檢察官楊時宇檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1585.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1589.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
台北市政府財政局莊翠玲會副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1593.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
稅監機政署林秀鳳副處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1595.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1596.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
新北市政府財政局 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1599.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
蔣僑明主任秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1601.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1604.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
台北市政府財政局莊翠玲會副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1603.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1606.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
地方稅務局許愚林副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1607.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1612.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
台中市政府地方稅務局麥林會代理副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1613.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1616.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
財政局梁奕新科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1617.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1620.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
台北市政府財政稅務局 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1620.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1621.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
李文文主任秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1623.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1626.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
台北市政府財政局莊翠玲會代理副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1624.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1627.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
財政局黃昇副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1628.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1633.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
宜蘭縣政府財政稅務局吳亦偉科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1636.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1639.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
新竹縣政府稅務局溫碧蓮副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1640.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1644.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
梁立森縣政府稅務局吳文林科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1645.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1646.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
洪英宗科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1648.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1651.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
彰化縣地方稅務局高成佑科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1653.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1654.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
黃柏佑科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1656.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1659.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
南投縣政府稅務局周兆維副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1661.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1664.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
雲林縣稅務局葉縣親主任秘書 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1665.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1669.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
嘉義縣財政稅務局王美藝副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1669.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1673.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
屏東縣政府財稅局洪維 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1675.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
捐科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1677.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1678.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
宋文林科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1680.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1683.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
台東縣稅務局賈維業科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1684.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
花蕾縣地方稅務局羅雲科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1688.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1692.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
澎湖縣政府稅務局劉瑞明科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1693.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1696.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
基隆市稅務局林素貞副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1697.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1700.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
新竹市稅務局黃桂梅副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1701.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1705.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
嘉義市政府財政稅務局李景和副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1706.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1710.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
連央縣財政稅務局陳義央副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1712.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1715.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
金門縣稅務局陳義央副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1719.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1722.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
金門縣稅務局陳義央副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1722.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
金門縣稅務局陳義央副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1732.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1735.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
江先生請提案委員說明提案要辭 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1735.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1740.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
然後再請財政部莊部長說明並為議員委員提案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1741.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
第一 我先跳過去 先後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1745.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1746.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
請郭一群委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1747.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1750.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
郭一群委員不在 請林楚英委員說明提案要辭 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1753.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1754.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1760.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1764.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
主席 各位委員 同仁 各位部會官員 大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1764.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1768.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
本席今天提出的遺產及正與稅部分條文修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1768.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
主要的原因是司法院憲法法庭去年宣判了 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1776.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
113年憲判第11號判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1776.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1782.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
明確指出現行的遺政稅法對於死亡前兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1782.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1787.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
贈予特定親屬的擬置遺產課稅責任規劃不清 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1788.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1794.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
過往甚至出現別人拿贈予 但是無辜繼承人買單的不公平現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1794.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1798.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
侵害了憲法保障的平等權與財產權 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1798.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1801.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
立法院必須在期限內完成修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1801.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1806.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
長期以來我們看到的是遺產稅在食物稽查上屢屢發生爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1806.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1811.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
特別是繼承人並未拿到被繼承人申請的贈予財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1811.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1818.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
卻要拿自己的繼承財產甚至於個人財產去繳納其他受證親屬的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1818.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1821.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
違背了輸稅公平的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1821.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1828.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
同時現行的法律對於配偶多年來對於家庭家計的實質經濟貢獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1828.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1830.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
缺少合理評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1830.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1832.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
在繳稅程序上 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1832.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1837.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
如分期繳納門檻或者是遺產存款繳稅等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1837.45 |
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1839.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
也有許多不合時宜的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1839.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1842.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
需要制度性的檢討與修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1842.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1845.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
因此本席特別提出了修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1845.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1850.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
就是以具體的行動回憶憲判意旨與人民的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1850.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1856.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
本席認同這部法律修正的核心就是以權責相符與租稅正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1856.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1864.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
所以說草案明確規定了你制裁遺產人的受證人應依比率來負擔納稅的義務 |
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1864.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1868.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
那麼本席也希望本席所提出的修正草案的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1868.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1871.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
雖然部分文字與正院版不相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1871.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1873.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
但是精神是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1873.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1876.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那希望院內的所有同仁能夠予以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1876.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1877.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1878.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1880.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
謝謝您所應委員說明提案要旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1880.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1882.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
請王美慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1882.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1883.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
王美慧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1883.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1884.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
王美慧委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1884.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1886.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
請李坤誠委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1886.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1887.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
李坤誠委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1887.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1888.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
李坤誠委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1888.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1889.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
請郭國文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1889.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1890.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
郭國文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1890.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1891.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
郭國文委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1891.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1892.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
請賴慧媛委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1892.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1893.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
賴慧媛委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1893.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
1894.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
賴慧媛委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
1894.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
1896.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
請王宏威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
1896.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
1897.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
王宏威委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
1897.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
1898.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
王宏威委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
1898.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
1899.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
請林思明委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
1899.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
1900.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
林思明委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
1900.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
1901.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
林思明委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
1901.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
1904.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
請張志文委員說明提案要旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
1907.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
1908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
1919.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
1921.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
好 謝謝主席各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
1921.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
1922.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
各位練習官員大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
1922.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
1926.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
那今天有關遺產證與稅的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
1926.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
1929.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
就是針對解決兩件問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
1929.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
1932.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
第一個 取得財產的人不一定繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
1932.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
1935.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
或是取得一筆財產的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
1935.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
1937.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
課稅 遺產 計算遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
1937.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
1941.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
或是配偶 計算這個配偶扣除我的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
1941.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
1945.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
卻不計算遺產等等的制度的一個矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
1945.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
1947.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
所以本席今天提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
1947.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
1949.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
遺產證與稅法第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
1949.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
1952.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
跟第17條之一的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
1952.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
1954.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
那修法的重點有兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
1954.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
1957.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
第一個 如果受證人不是繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
1957.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
1963.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
也應該負擔受證財產所增加的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
1963.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
1965.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
第二個 受證人如果是配偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
1965.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
1970.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
那他這筆這個兩年內被視為遺產的財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
1970.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
1975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
應該也要能主張夫妻設於財產分配請求權 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
1975.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
1976.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
1976.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
1981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
不管過去從113年的新聞有一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
1981.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
1985.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
就是陳姓男子名下的財產股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
1985.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
1988.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
贈送給他的妻子 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
1988.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
1993.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
然後在當年被認定是免課遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
1993.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
1995.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
那當陳姓男子過世的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
1995.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
1997.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
當時他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
1998.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2001.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
太太跟子女都拋棄繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2001.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2002.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
他六歲的失真子 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2002.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2006.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
繼承的財產是1567萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2006.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
可是當時卻要繳5735萬的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2010.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2012.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
相當的不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2012.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
以及我們當時有看到其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2014.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2016.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
在105年有一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2016.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2020.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
也被憲法法官判為是有點有事違憲的 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2020.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2025.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
比如說在當這個先生把名下的土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2025.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2027.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
贈送給妻子的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2027.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2030.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
當時是可以用贈予的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2030.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2034.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
來認定是贈予稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2034.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2037.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
可是當先生在同年死亡的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2037.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2038.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
他的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2038.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2041.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
會把兩年內所贈予的金額當成是遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2041.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2043.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
所以造成遺產大增 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2043.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2046.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
可是當時他卻不能使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2046.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2050.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
這個夫妻財產剩餘分配請求權的扣除 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2050.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2053.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
等於說他沒有贈予還比較好 |
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2053.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2055.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
贈予完了以後繳的遺產稅還比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2055.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2059.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
所以這都是大法官認為違憲的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2059.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2062.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
那希望今天的法令在大家的支持之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2062.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
有機會通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2064.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2066.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
也來建立更公平更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2066.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
更符合憲法要求的遺產稅制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2069.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2070.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2071.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2073.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
謝謝張志榮委員的提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2074.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2076.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
再來請李彥秀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2076.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2078.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
李彥秀委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2079.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2082.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
下一位請賴氏保委員做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2082.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2083.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2083.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2084.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2087.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2088.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
這位說沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2095.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2097.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
謝謝主席以及各位親戚 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2097.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
我這裡兩個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2103.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
一個是土地稅跟房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2103.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2105.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
我先講第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2105.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2109.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
就是有關於行政院修法提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2109.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2114.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
要授權地方政府對住宅法第四條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2114.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2119.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
新婚兩年內沒有小孩子的家庭持有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2119.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2123.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
全國單一自住的房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2123.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2127.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
屋根土地適當的減免房屋及地價稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2127.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2131.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
他提到的說大概100萬富以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2131.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2135.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
而且稅損50億到75億 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2135.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2138.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
這到底的是中央立法地方買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2138.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2143.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
這個詞舉不可取 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2143.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2144.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
部長不要這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2144.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2147.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
這個東西竟然中央政策針對少子化 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2147.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2149.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
少子化這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2149.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2150.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
大家都來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2150.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2152.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
現在來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2152.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2155.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
我們的出生人口你看破了80萬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2155.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2156.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
不到80萬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2156.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2158.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
過去呢這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2160.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2162.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
這個是40萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2163.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
40萬以上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
所以這個差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
現在來講就是等於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2171.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
這個情況這麼的一個嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2171.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2173.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
所以我認為應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2173.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2174.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
居然居然中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2174.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2177.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
這一部分的稅損中央來負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2177.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2179.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
不要再加給地方了 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2179.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2181.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
你這個這裡七折八扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2181.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2185.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
另外我的提案是把兩年改前三年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2185.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2189.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
這是有關於土地跟這個房屋稅這一部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2191.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2195.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
另外要跟數字稍微的修正一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2195.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2198.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
這個現在來講是出生人口不到8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2198.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2200.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
不是80萬不到8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2200.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2204.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
過去每年是40萬 |
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2204.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2206.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
那麼有關於這個移政稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2206.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2209.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
我是修30條跟41條 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2209.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2211.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
30條就明定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2211.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2214.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
遺產稅或者是這個正義稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2215.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2219.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
那麼無論因納的稅額在30萬元以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2219.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2221.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
是不是有30萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2221.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
因為現有的法律是要30萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2228.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
才能夠這個設定抵押權 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2228.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2231.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
給這個濟政機關辦理分析繳納 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2231.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2235.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
我把30萬元的這個限制把他門檻拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2235.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2237.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
另外41條呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2237.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2239.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
就提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2239.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2241.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
因稅的不動產設定抵押權 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2241.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
給稅政機關同意以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
可以申請主管稅政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2249.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
合法同意轉移證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2254.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
以便納稅應用人可以在繳清以前先 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2255.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2258.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
辦理這個產權的轉移登記了 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2258.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2262.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
並立即以設定抵押權的財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2262.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2264.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
籌措現金繳納 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2264.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2265.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
現在的一個情況就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2265.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2267.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
這個他有房地 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2267.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2270.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
有房子但是他沒有錢繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2270.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2272.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
這是一個比較大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2272.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2273.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
這是一個很嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2273.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2276.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
就是這個孩子從爸爸父母 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2277.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2280.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
這個遺傳道裡面有房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2281.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2283.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
要交稅可是沒有錢交 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2283.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2286.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
那你可以不可以讓他先過戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2286.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2288.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
然後他來以後去賣去交這個稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2288.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2290.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
否則的話卡在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2290.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2293.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
又去把他拍賣也是這個不好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2293.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2295.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
我想簡單的兩個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2295.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2297.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
請各位能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2298.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2300.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
一 個 例 啊 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2300.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
謝謝賴志寶委員所做的提案要子說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2303.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
再來請馬文君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2305.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2306.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
馬文君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2306.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2308.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
馬文君委員不在請傅崑琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2308.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
傅崑琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2309.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
傅崑琪委員不在請林憲琪委員做提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2313.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2314.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
兩分鐘謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2321.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
主席 福會同仁大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2323.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2328.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
那本席今天一併提出這個房屋稅條例及土地稅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2328.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2330.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
相關條文修正草案 |
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2330.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
那整個目的就是要從房屋與土地兩個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2338.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
來減輕婚育家庭的長期居住負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2338.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2342.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
那也因為我國少子女化的這個問題持續惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2342.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2346.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
對年輕家庭而言影響成家跟生育意願的 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2346.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2350.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
不是只有托育跟教育的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2350.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2354.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
房貸 房屋稅 地價稅以及日常生活的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2354.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2357.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
也都是每一年持續發生的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2357.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
因此本席這邊兩案均以符合住宅法規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2361.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2367.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
新婚兩年內或育有未成年子女之婚育家庭為對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2367.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2372.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
若家庭成員持有符合規定的全國單一自住房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2372.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2377.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
那該房這個房屋稅條例的修正的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2377.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2381.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
是授權地方政府來適度減免房屋稅 |
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那如果該房屋座落土地適用在自用住宅用地的稅率 |
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土地稅法修正草案則授權地方政府來適度減免地價稅 |
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考量房屋稅跟地價稅都是地方稅 |
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那麼本案由各縣市政府 直轄市 |
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依照當地人口的結構 小子女化的情形 |
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婚育家庭負擔以及地方財政的能力 |
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2410.78 |
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以自治條例來訂定減免期限 範圍以及基準和程序 |
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我們期望運用這個租稅的工具 |
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2418.78 |
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讓婚育家庭在居住支出上能夠獲得更長期穩定的一個支持 |
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那也讓地方政府能夠因地制宜來提出婚育政策 |
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小子女化的問題要從家庭的每一年持續負擔的居住成本來著手 |
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2428.78 |
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讓青年敢承受 願意安心養育下一代 |
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2437.78 |
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那麼以上兩案 敬請各位委員共同支持 |
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2439.78 |
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以上謝謝 |
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再來請政天才委員 |
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2444.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2447.85 |
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政天才委員不在 現在請財政部莊部長 |
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我還沒講 等一下 稍等一下 對不起 我自己忘掉了 |
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那我現在就對我的提案做簡單的說明 |
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這是對於這個 |
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移產 |
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2463.74 |
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這個課稅的這個提案 |
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那就是因為113年度的憲判是第11號 |
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| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2472.74 |
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判決現行的移產及證與稅部分條文規定抵觸憲法 |
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2472.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2476.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
外年保障憲法所規定的平等權及財產權的落實 |
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2476.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2480.74 |
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要限期修正條文 那現在就是提出這個修正 |
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| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
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那希望我們提案 大家能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2489.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
現在請財政部莊部長說明並回應委員提案內容 |
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2495.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2497.24 |
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主席 各位委員先進 大家早 |
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| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
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今天 貴委員會審查大院各位委員所擬具的 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2501.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2506.24 |
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移政稅法 土地稅法 房屋稅條例 相關條文的修正草案等28案 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2506.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2512.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
以及行政院所含情審議的土地稅法及房屋稅條例相關條文修正草案 |
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2512.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2514.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
以下請做簡要的報告 |
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| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
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首先就是大院各位委員所擬具的移政稅法的相關條文的修正草案 |
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2519.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2525.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
總共12案 那提案的內容和本部所含報的行政院版本大致相同 |
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2525.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2530.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
憲法法庭在113年憲判自第11號的判決指出 |
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2530.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2533.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
移政稅法第15條第一項第一款 |
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2533.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2538.98 |
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有關被繼承人死亡前兩年內證與配偶並入期遺產總額課徵 |
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2538.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2541.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
遺產稅的規定 就遺產稅的負擔 |
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2541.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2545.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
還有配偶剩餘財產差分配請求權扣除額的計算 |
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2545.98 |
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2547.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
欠缺明確的規範 |
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2547.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2550.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
應該在判決公告之期兩年內 |
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2550.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2553.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
以判決意旨檢討修正相關的規定 |
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2553.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2556.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
本部依照憲法法判決的 |
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2557.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2560.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
參考各界的建議還有委員的提案內容 |
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2560.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2563.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
擬具了移政稅法部分條文修正草案 |
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2563.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2566.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
含報行政院我們的修正重點如下 |
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2566.56 |
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2567.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
第一個 |
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2567.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2571.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
徵訂被繼承人死亡前兩年內證與特定的親屬 |
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2571.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2573.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
包含了被繼承人的配偶 |
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2573.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2576.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
各順序的繼承人及其配偶 |
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2577.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2581.67 |
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的財產要併入遺產總額課稅的遺產稅 |
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2581.67 |
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2585.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
而計算標準以各受證人為納稅義務人 |
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2585.67 |
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2589.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
並以受證財產為限負擔納稅的義務 |
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2589.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2594.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
第二個計算配偶剩餘財產差分配請求權的扣除數額時 |
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2594.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2598.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
被繼承人死亡前兩年內證與他配偶的財產 |
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2598.67 |
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2602.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
視為被繼承人現存財產並與計算 |
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2602.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2605.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
第三個是修正遺產稅納稅義務人的範圍 |
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2605.67 |
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2607.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
並徵訂被繼承人死亡後 |
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2607.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2612.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
才經過法院判決確定遺產全屬的案件的申報期間 |
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2612.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2615.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
及合客期間起算日的規定 |
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2617.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2622.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
第四個我們刪除了宜政稅因納稅額在新台幣30萬元以上 |
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2622.19 |
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2625.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
才可以申請分期繳納的限制規定 |
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| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2629.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
大院委員索尼的宜政稅法修正草案大多是 |
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2629.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2631.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
參著憲法判決的意旨 |
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2631.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2636.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
修正內容和散開本部函報行政院內容大致相同 |
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2636.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2640.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
另外部分委員提案修正宜政稅分期繳納的規定 |
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2640.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2645.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
也和本部刪除申請宜政稅分期繳納限制的意旨相同 |
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2645.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2650.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
因此建議行政院版本修正草案送大院審議後 |
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2650.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2652.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
並按審查 |
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2652.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2654.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
第二個部分就行政院含情審議 |
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| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2660.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
以及大院各委員所擬具的土地稅法及防污稅條例相關條文的 |
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2660.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2662.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
修正草案總共有18案 |
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2662.19 |
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2665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
那麼行政院版本的修法背景主要是 |
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2665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2668.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
一位因應少子女化的問題行政院推動 |
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2668.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2674.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
台灣人口對策新戰略家庭支持篇全方位來減輕婚育家庭的經濟負擔 |
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2674.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2680.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
本部基於租稅減壓的面向提出婚育家庭再減稅措施 |
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2680.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2687.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
因此我們的修正重點是授權地方政府對住宅法第四條規定的新婚兩年內 |
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2687.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2695.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
或預有未成年子女的婚育家庭成員所持有的全國單一自住房屋及其坐落土地 |
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2695.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
可以再適當減免房屋稅及地價稅 |
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2700.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2704.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
那麼預期的收益戶數大概是100萬戶以上 |
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2704.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2708.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
那麼減稅的利益大概是50到75億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2708.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2713.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
等到地方政府完成房屋稅及地價稅自治條例修法起實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2713.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2717.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
那麼大院各委員的版本大多數的委員提案 |
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2717.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
總共有12案與行政院的版本是相同的 |
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2721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2728.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
至於傅崑琦委員提案對於婚育家庭成員持有的全國單一自住房屋及其坐落土地 |
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2728.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2732.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
應予減免或免徵房屋稅及地價稅 |
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2732.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2735.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
以及全額補足稅收減少 |
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2736.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2740.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
以及賴委員士保所提案的對新婚三年內或 |
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2740.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2744.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
育有未成年子女的婚育家庭居住的住家用房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2745.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2749.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
以及他所坐落的住宅用地地方政府 |
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2749.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2753.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
應予減免房屋稅及地價稅減少稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2753.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2755.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
由中央政府負擔 |
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2755.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2759.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
我們考量住宅法已經有婚育家庭的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2759.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2766.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
基於保障婚育家庭基本生活需要以及房屋稅及地價稅是屬於地方稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2766.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
因此根據行政院的版本的修正草案地方政府可因地質疑 |
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2772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2776.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
決定是否要減免以及減免的幅度 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2776.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2782.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
暫無中央彌補稅收損失以及統一訂定減免比率的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2782.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
敬請各位委員指教並建請會議支持行政院版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2788.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2795.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2797.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
內政部的報告請大家自行參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2798.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2799.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
現在開始詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2799.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2801.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
先做一下宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2801.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2803.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
依每位住區委員發言時間8分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2803.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2805.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
必要時的延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2805.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2808.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
每位列席委員發言時間4分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2809.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2811.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
今天上午10點截止發言登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2811.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2816.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
現役登記順序請登記第一位林德福委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2829.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2838.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
謝謝主席還有莊部長以及各所有官員還有各縣市的副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2838.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2844.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
還有主秘以及這個副局長還有科長科座 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2846.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2848.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
首先是不是請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2848.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2850.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2856.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2857.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2857.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2858.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
莊部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2858.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2859.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
莊部長我請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2859.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2861.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
因為少子化是國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2861.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2865.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
那減稅政策大家我想都贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2865.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2870.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
這個我想所有的委員應該不會有人反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2870.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2876.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
但是房屋稅與地價稅屬於地方政府主要的財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2876.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2883.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
那本席認為少子化議題減稅政策不能夠中央請客 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2883.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2885.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
由地方來買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2886.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2894.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
本席我要請教我們今天所有由各地方的財政局的副局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2894.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2896.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
主秘科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2896.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
列席來代表我們地方政府的這些官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2901.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2903.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
請教你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2907.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
為了改善我國少子化的這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2914.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
減輕婚姻家庭經濟的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2914.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
支持房屋稅地價稅減免的稅收損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2918.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2921.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
那中央也應該要負擔起一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2921.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
那這些中央請客地方出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2930.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
請問我們所有今天的這些代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2930.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2931.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2932.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
贊同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2932.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2934.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
要是不贊同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2934.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
這個因為中央請客地方出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2938.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2938.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
不贊同的請舉手好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2941.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2942.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
幾乎都不贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2942.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2944.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
部長你有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2944.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2946.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
那我請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2946.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2947.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
謝謝你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2947.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2951.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
此次行政院版的房屋稅條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2951.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2956.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
以地這個土地的這些稅法的整個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2956.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2960.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
有沒有事先甄詢過地方政府的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2960.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2961.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2965.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
跟委員報告這個部分我們有先 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2965.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2967.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
了解地方政府的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2967.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
那我想各地方政府當然他們有考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2971.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
不過我在這裡還是必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2971.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2973.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
因為都是地方稅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2973.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2974.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
是地方稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2974.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2975.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
你不能中央請客地方出錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2975.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2979.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
最後會要我們這裡是授權地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2979.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2981.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
他們來決定是否減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2981.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2984.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
那如果要減免還要經過地方自治條例去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2984.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2988.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
所以必須要回到地方自治條例裡面去定 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2988.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2990.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
它是不是要減免以及減免的幅度 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2990.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2992.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
那至於稅收的部分我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2992.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2994.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
其實我們整個一整年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2994.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
這個是二十二縣市總金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
但是我們以看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2998.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3002.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
地價稅跟房屋稅來說是地方當然是一個裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3002.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3004.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
可是以裁劃法修正以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3004.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3008.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
地方政府的裁員已經比過去修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3008.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3011.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
修裁劃法修正已經增加了至少四千多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3011.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3017.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
我相信地方政府為了他解決他縣市裡面的少子化 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3017.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3020.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
希望他們能夠在縣市裡面生生不息 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3020.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3024.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
有更多的人口紅利一定也會支持這樣的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3024.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3027.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
以稅收來說其實是占了非常小的一個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3027.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3032.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
因為中央地方的裁劃法修正以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3032.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3036.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
已經達到統籌分配稅款 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3036.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3039.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
一百一十五年就有八千八百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3039.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3042.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
比往年增加百分之九十二點五 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3042.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3044.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
而今年的稅收狀況良好的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3044.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3048.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
還有第三期會就要統籌分配稅款的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3048.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3052.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
所以我們希望中央地方一起聯手來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3052.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3056.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
少子女化人口對策一起努力來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3056.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3061.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
而這個稅收減少對地方政府來說其實差異是很小的 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3061.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3063.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
那個部長你不管怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3063.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3067.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
你一定要徵詢過我們地方所有的財政這些官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3067.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3071.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
然後要問他們有沒有什麼意見跟看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3072.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3078.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
那你不能說我中央有一個政策要這樣來要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3078.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3081.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
但是地方你們要來付費 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3081.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3083.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
中央請客地方付錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3083.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3087.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
其實你應該要徵詢過多開幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3087.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3089.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
問大家的看法意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3089.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3094.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
你不是說你各縣市政府大家的做法不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3094.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3096.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
我認為這是一個國家的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3096.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3100.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
因為少子化的問題是國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3100.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3102.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
你不能把它完全推給地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
我相信我們是尊重地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3108.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
事前也有徵詢過地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3108.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
那你們有沒有開過會 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
第一個我們是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3114.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
我想附稅署有徵詢過意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3114.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
那當然地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3115.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3116.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
有徵詢過 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3116.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3118.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
所以我們是並不一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3118.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
所以我們用授權的方式由地方政府可以因地制宜來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
那麼同時在他們自治條例裡面去做修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
是否減免以及減免的幅度 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3131.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
這個部分我們也是對地方政府的一個尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3131.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3133.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
其實那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3133.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3136.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
因為我們都知道少子化是國安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3136.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3138.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
但是像這種問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3138.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3140.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
站在中央的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3140.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3143.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
你們應該就說我中央負擔多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3143.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3146.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
你們地方希望能夠配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3146.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3149.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
然後大家一致把這個問題來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3149.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3151.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
這是當下很嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3151.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3154.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
去年出生率十萬七千多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3154.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3158.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
今年可能八萬我看都還在邊緣 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3158.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3160.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
所以說這是當下很嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3160.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
你要解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3162.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3164.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
今天這個問題要攤開來 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3164.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3168.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
把這些財政局重要的官員全部找來 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3168.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3169.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
一次又一次開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3169.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3171.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
開到最後大家有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3171.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3174.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
然後中央負擔多少地方多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3174.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3177.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
那個這樣才能夠真正解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3177.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3182.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我希望說你這個要是沒有過去找這些來開過會 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3182.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3187.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
希望你財政部能夠邀請這些財政的這些官員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3187.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
就是開個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3191.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
然後一次一次讓大家能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3191.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
這個能夠取得一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3197.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
那個部長您的看法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3198.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3201.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
部長委員的建議我們也都有聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3201.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
我相信解決少子女化這樣的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3208.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
我們像中央地方都同樣都有體會 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3208.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3213.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
那我們也都希望各地方政府能夠共同一起來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3213.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3217.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
然後應地制宜來決定他們的相關的一些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3217.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
因此在我們的中央法規裡面是以授權地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3221.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
所以說你要不要你再你自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3224.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3224.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3226.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
那我相信地方政府一定也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3226.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3228.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
中央做好人那地方你要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3228.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3232.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
這沒有不是我們只是授權由地方政府決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3232.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
當然啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3236.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
對我想委員我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3236.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3239.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
中央地方都應該都會理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3239.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3243.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
然後也會希望他們的轄區裡面能夠有更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3243.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3246.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
生生不息的一個新生人口出生以及婚育家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3246.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3249.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
我想大家目標是相同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3249.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3251.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
這個我看是只有講一講 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3251.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3253.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
真正要落實要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3253.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3255.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
因為那是地方稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3255.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3258.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
那你過去省政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3258.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3260.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
那些錢也不是你中央的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3260.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3262.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
對不對也都是歸地方啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3262.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3265.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
對不對省政府直接是跟地方稀稀相關啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3265.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3267.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
不是中央啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3267.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3269.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
那你因為省政府廢掉以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3269.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3271.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
那些錢全部都歸中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3271.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3273.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
現在是下放地方而已啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3274.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3275.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3275.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
委員這次彩化法修正以後大幅的下降裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3279.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
光是營業稅地方只有地方就拿走95.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3284.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3287.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
中央只有4.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3287.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3291.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
所以彩化法修正以後情況已經有很大的改變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3291.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3292.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3292.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3295.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
好啦那個部長我希望喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3295.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3298.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
這個這個部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3298.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
不管是你這個房屋稅地價稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3304.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
要減免等等喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3304.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3308.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
希望你能夠找這些財政局的各單位喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3308.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3311.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
這個每一個縣市啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3311.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3312.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
多開幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3312.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3317.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
希望能夠到最後能夠取得一個大家可以接受的方式啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3317.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3322.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
這個我也希望財政部積極的去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3322.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3324.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
那第二個問題我請教喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3324.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3327.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
依房屋稅條例第五條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3327.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3330.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
全國單一自住房屋限值 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3330.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3333.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
在一定金額以下可享受 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3333.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3337.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
自住稅率1%的減免優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3337.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3339.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
那以六都為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3339.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3341.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
這個自住房屋限值啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3341.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3342.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
零頭去掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3342.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3345.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
台北市有267萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3345.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3347.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
新北市有235萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3347.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3349.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
桃園市有181萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3349.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3351.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
台中市有153萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3351.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3353.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
台南市有157萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3353.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
高雄市啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
有217萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
本席啊擔心房屋限值 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3360.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
這個檢討調整啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3360.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3362.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
新北市與台北市可能啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3362.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3365.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
很多家庭沒有辦法適應 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3365.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3367.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
沒有辦法適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3367.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
本席希望比照國民年金法第31條第四項的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3372.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3374.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
設定一個起始點 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3374.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3380.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
讓符合新法租稅減免的這些婚姻家庭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3380.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3383.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
在沒有房屋的權利下 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3384.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
不因為地方政府調整房屋限值 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3391.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
而影響減稅的資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3391.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3393.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3395.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
還有這個你的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3396.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3397.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3397.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3398.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3398.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3400.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
我們所以我們不是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3400.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3403.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
那個一定的金額不是用絕對值 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3403.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3404.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
而是用比較的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3404.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3406.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
也比如說直轄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3406.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3408.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
還有新竹縣市是取 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3408.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3412.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
第一百分之一戶以下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3412.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3413.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3413.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3415.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
就是說他佔前面的百分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3415.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3416.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
是以金額來比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3416.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3417.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
是以那個百分比 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3417.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3419.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
不是用您就剛剛提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3419.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3420.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
有絕對數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3420.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3422.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
如果這個金額整體調高 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3422.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3424.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
他的排序也會跟著調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3424.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3426.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
所以那另外其他縣市是取 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3426.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3428.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
百分之零點三 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3428.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3430.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
就前百分之零點三的 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3430.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3433.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
才不適用所謂的一定金額以下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3433.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3435.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
單一自住的這個優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3435.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3438.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
所以這個部分其實是非常的寬鬆 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3438.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3440.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
也能夠照顧到單一自住的 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3440.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3443.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
家庭的一個實際的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3443.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3445.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
那個金額不是一個尺的 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3445.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3446.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
而是它是會隨著 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3446.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3448.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
我們是按比例來計算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3448.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3450.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
就前百分之多少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3450.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3453.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
才會納入不適用的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3453.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3457.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
根據六都18歲以下的人口年齡統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3457.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3459.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
新北市差不多有52萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3459.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3461.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
台北市有34萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3461.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3463.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
那桃園有36萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3463.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3465.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
台中有44萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3465.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3467.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
台南也有24萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3467.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3468.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
高雄有35萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3468.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3471.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
財政部說預期受益的 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3471.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3473.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
戶數約有100萬戶以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3473.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3477.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
這個減稅利益也差不多50億到75億 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3477.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3479.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
那請問六都中實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3479.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3482.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
受費家庭分別有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3482.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3484.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
六都減稅後 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3484.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3486.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
這個替代的財源在哪邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3486.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3489.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
那個我請問那個我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3489.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3491.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
這個獲六都的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3491.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3492.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
首邊到底有沒有數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3492.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3494.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
可以做一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3494.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3496.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
以全國來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3496.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3498.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
目前估算50到70幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3498.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3500.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
其實以各縣市來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3501.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3504.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
連10億可能平均來設個未必 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3504.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
這個問題很大是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3505.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
請財政部會後提供書面資料給林德副委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3512.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
好啦你再提供一個數據給本席啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3512.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3514.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
謝謝謝謝委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3514.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
謝謝林德副委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3518.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
接下來請賴世保委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3530.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3532.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3532.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3534.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
以及各位先進有請財政部的莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3534.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3536.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3540.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3541.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3541.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3542.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
是部長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3542.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
我剛才提的說明你有聽對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3545.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3548.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
我想把兩年改成三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3548.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3551.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
然後呢這個第二個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3551.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3554.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
有關這一次因為是國安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3554.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3556.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
少子化這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3556.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3557.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
可不可以這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3557.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3559.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
這一部分就我們中央買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3559.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3560.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
幾十億而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3560.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3561.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
也沒有多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3561.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3562.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3564.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3566.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
第一個我們這個大概應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3566.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3570.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
跟住宅法是同樣的一個所謂婚姻家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3570.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3572.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
因為住宅法裡面有相關的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3572.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3574.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
那這個我們採取一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3574.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3576.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
因為同樣的就採取一致的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3576.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3579.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
如果跟委員報告為什麼會是兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3579.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3581.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
新婚家庭的兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3581.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3582.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
那另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3582.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3584.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
不要中央買單啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3584.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3585.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
不要地方買單啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3585.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3588.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
中央其實這個我們剛剛所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3588.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3590.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
減稅率大概50到75億 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3590.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3593.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
其實以現在的財力來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3593.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3595.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
遠遠比中 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3595.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3598.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
有很大的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3598.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3599.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
我剛剛也提過就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3599.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3601.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
才化法修正以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3602.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3604.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
所以你就是不對這份人啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3604.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3607.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
成長92.9% |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3607.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
而且這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3612.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
今年可能還有第三期的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3612.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3614.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
所以我想地方也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3614.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3616.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
和我們一起共同的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3616.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3619.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
不講你不要偷換概念好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3619.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
你不要偷換概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3621.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3622.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
我們都知道你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3622.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3624.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
我給地方4000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3624.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3626.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
問題你們拿回來一般補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3626.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3628.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
跟那個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3628.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
這個計畫型補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3631.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
拿回來2600多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3631.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3633.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
實際上你給地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3633.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3634.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
就增加1000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3634.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3635.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
這個這樣就算 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3635.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3636.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
第二個你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3636.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3638.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
要把持有改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3638.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3640.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
居住可以吧放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3642.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3643.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
這不一樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3643.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3644.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
這不一樣的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3644.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3645.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3645.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3646.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
所謂您所謂的居住 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3646.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3647.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
也許是房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3647.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3648.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
居住的意思就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3648.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3649.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
年輕的小孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3649.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3652.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
居住在他爸爸的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3652.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3653.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3653.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3655.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
這個叫居住 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3655.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3656.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
年輕人居住 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3657.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3658.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
他父親生生 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3658.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3659.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
他爸爸的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3660.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3661.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
他設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3661.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3663.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
第一個他如果說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3663.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3666.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
要先看他是不是屬於自用住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3666.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3667.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
自用 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3667.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3668.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
是不是自用住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3668.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3669.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
這個範圍就更大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3669.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3672.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
那我想要再重新評估一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3672.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3673.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
你們去評估一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3673.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3674.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
這個才有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3674.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3677.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
因為你要年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3677.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3680.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
你知道年輕人買房子不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3680.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3682.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
但是年輕人去住爸爸的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3684.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3686.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
仔細清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3686.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3689.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
爸爸或者媽媽的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3689.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3690.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3690.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3692.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我們給他這樣的一個減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3692.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3693.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
是合理的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3693.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3694.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
好我們再看 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3694.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3695.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
大家關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3695.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3697.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
你那個推出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3697.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3700.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
新清安的3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3700.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3703.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
其實外界很多的批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3703.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3705.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
第一個他們認為你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3705.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3708.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
替建商hold住 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3708.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3710.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
下跌中的房價 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3710.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3712.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
第二個你的排富 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3712.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3716.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
電債連鎖的200萬以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3716.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
等等沒有門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3717.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3718.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3718.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3720.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
三分之二的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3720.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3722.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
沒有達到平均薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3722.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3723.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
4.8萬喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3723.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3725.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
4.8萬是什麼概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3725.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3728.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
我乘以13.5個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3728.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3730.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
他大概還不到70萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3730.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3731.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我算70萬 |
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3731.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
夫妻兩個都這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3733.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3734.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
也就140萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3735.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3737.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
三分之二的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3737.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3739.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
根本達不到你的200萬的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3739.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3740.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3741.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3743.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
今天等於沒有門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3743.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3745.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
再來就是50歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3745.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
你把它放光到50歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3748.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
30年 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3749.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3752.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
房子80歲還在黃帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3752.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3754.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
你不覺得你這樣住 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3754.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3756.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3760.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
這個新清安3.0結果等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3760.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3763.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
把錢經濟部的放到市場裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3764.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3766.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
經濟部的老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3766.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3768.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
就會有下一張我所關心的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3768.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3770.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
變成變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3770.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3771.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
他會怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3772.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3773.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3775.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
我就炒房了 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3776.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3777.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
回不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3778.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
第一個新清安的政策目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3784.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
我們是協助沒有自有住宅的民眾購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3784.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3786.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
房屋自住使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3786.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3788.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
沒有所謂的替建商來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3788.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3790.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
hold住他的市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3790.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
我覺得沒有這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
我覺得我們是支持青年來實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3796.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
購屋安心成家的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3796.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
沒有變 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
那2.0的部分實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3802.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
近三年以來各界的相關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3802.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
我們都有聽取 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3804.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
所以在3.0的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3804.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
做了相關的一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3809.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
更精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3809.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3810.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3810.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3812.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
你回答我做了幾戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3812.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3814.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3814.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3816.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
我們也找了新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3816.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3818.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
超過17萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3818.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
總共金額放出去多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3824.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
核貸的大概是1兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3824.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
1兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3826.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
這一兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3826.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
然後你怎麼防止 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3831.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
他這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3831.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3833.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
他現在世代同堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3833.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3835.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
用這個去貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3835.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
然後把資金投入股市 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3838.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
你怎麼防止 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3838.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3839.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3839.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3840.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
有沒有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3840.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
你那種的反光股 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3843.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
因為財政不管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3843.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3844.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
反光股 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3846.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3847.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
啊 吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3848.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3850.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
我們記得新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3849.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3850.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
那麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3850.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3852.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
拿到的資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3852.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3853.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
你說這個沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3853.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3854.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
這個已經設定 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3854.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3855.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
他設定 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3855.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3856.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
不是設定 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3856.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3857.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
他一樣防止 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3857.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3858.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
譬如說我 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3859.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3860.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
我去買這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3860.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3862.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
是在我的名下 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3862.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3863.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
我可以再去借錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3863.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3866.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
我借錢投入股市 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3866.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
然後我借個100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3869.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
借個50萬都沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3869.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
我現在花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3870.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3872.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
我沒有看股市會漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3872.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3874.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
我把這個借的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3874.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3875.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
去股市裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3875.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3877.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
過一陣子很快就換掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3877.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
沒什麼二子 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3879.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
你告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3879.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
有沒有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3881.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3881.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
清安的第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3883.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
當然就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3883.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
他買房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3885.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
然後抵押設定 |
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3885.65 |
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3886.65 |
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那至於這個房子 |
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3886.65 |
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3888.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
能不能有足夠的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3888.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3889.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
那這個房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3889.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3890.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
我們可以去做二胎 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3890.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3891.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
那這個是 |
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3891.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3893.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
他會去審核的 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3893.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3894.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
會去審核 |
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3894.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3896.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
那至於他帶出來的金額 |
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3896.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
去做什麼樣的一個用途 |
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3898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3899.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
他只是帶了一個 |
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3899.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3901.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
新清安買了一間房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3901.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3902.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
對於他這個房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3902.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3903.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
後續的我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3903.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
還要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3906.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
這樣子的一個管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3906.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3908.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
說他不可以去買股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3908.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3909.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
不可以再做貸款 |
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3909.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3910.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3910.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3911.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
這個財產權 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3911.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3913.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
基本上是屬於他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3913.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3914.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
我們要做這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3914.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3915.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
一個限制的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3915.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3917.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
做這樣的一個限制的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3917.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
我覺得這已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3919.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
一個法律的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3919.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
因為財產權是他私人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3921.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
那只是政府在他 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3921.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3923.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
前期購買的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3923.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3925.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
給予相關的一些利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3925.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3927.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
減輕他一些負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3927.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3928.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3929.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
我們也算過這個金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3929.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3931.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
大概如果以6年補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3931.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3932.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
1000萬的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3932.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3933.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
政府相關的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3933.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3934.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
就是一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3934.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3935.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
就是22萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3935.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3936.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
限制他不准移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3936.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3937.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
不准貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3937.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3938.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
不准去買股票 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3938.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3940.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
我覺得這已經限制到 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3940.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3942.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
私人財產權的一個處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3942.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3943.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
利用 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3943.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3944.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
簡單來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3944.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3946.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
你的答案就是告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3946.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3948.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
政府沒有辦法防止 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3950.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
甚至於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3950.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
就你 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
Go A-O-E-T |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3953.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
Go |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3953.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
他愛怎麼樣就怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3957.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
他可以拿去做二代 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3957.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
拿資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3958.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
拿到的去炒股 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3960.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
你們也沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3962.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3963.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
不是有辦法沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3963.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3964.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3964.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3965.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
要不要這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3965.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3966.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3966.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3967.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
銀行在帶二胎的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3967.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3969.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
第一個利率一定會比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3969.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3970.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3970.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3971.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
他這個房子必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3971.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3973.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
有足夠的擔保價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3973.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3974.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
才可能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3974.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3975.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
這是銀行在貸款的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3975.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3978.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
本身就會做嚴格的審核的 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3978.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3979.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
我知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3979.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3981.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
但是可見得 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3981.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3983.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
目前來講就是可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3983.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3984.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
我們外界 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3984.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3987.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
所以外界的擔心是有道理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3987.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3989.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
外界的擔心是有道理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3989.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3990.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
這就是我要強調的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3990.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3991.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3991.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3992.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
你們去研究一下吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3992.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3993.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
當然委員這樣的擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3993.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3995.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
也是要呼籲這個客屋的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3995.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3997.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
另外你現在來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3997.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3999.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
投資要有審慎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3999.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4000.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
要有審慎的事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4000.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4002.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
請問你那個行政安 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4002.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4004.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
政府的利息補貼多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4004.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4005.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
政府的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4005.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4006.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
我們算過 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4006.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4008.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
以二十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4008.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4011.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
以他貸款一千萬來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4011.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4013.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
補貼大概是二十二萬五千 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4013.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4014.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
六年來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4014.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4016.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
他是貸一千萬的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4016.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4018.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
那麼他是二十二萬五千 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4020.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4022.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
就是他六年政府給予補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4022.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4024.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
全部十七萬戶乘過來多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4024.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4026.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
全部十七萬戶的 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4026.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4028.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
全部的金額我們要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4028.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4029.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
我們要再另外再加 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4029.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4032.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
十七萬戶乘以六萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4032.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4034.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
你剛剛講六萬還是六十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4034.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4035.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
什麼六萬還是六十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4035.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4036.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
你剛剛講六萬不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4038.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4041.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
我說他如果貸一千萬的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4041.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4044.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
六年我們就前三年利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4044.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4048.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
到一點就是說他的利率是用一點七七五 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4048.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4050.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
後面每一年調升半 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4050.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4052.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
所以整個六年來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4052.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4054.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
政府給予他的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4054.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4056.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
就是二十二萬五千 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4056.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4059.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
二十二萬乘以十七萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4059.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4061.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
這個帳就這樣算 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4061.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4063.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
難道不是十二十三十 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4063.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4064.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
就大概快四百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4064.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4065.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
但是每一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4065.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
不是都貸到一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4068.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
對啦我說平均嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4068.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4070.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
所以每一個人都貸到一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4070.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4074.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
等於六年我們政府要貼了大概四百億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4074.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4075.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4075.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4079.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
所以六年等於一年的話就等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4079.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4084.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
六年的話等於一年差不多七十億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4084.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
十七萬裡面百分之四十 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
百分之十七是低於貸款五百萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4093.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
五百萬到八百萬大概有百分之三十 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4093.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4096.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
所以超過的其實八百萬以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4096.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
百分之四十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4099.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
再問你一個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4099.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4103.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
最近這個股市減少這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4104.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4105.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
這些資金 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4106.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4108.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
這股市成交量 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4108.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4110.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
明顯的少於一兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4110.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4113.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
那這個東西原來都上兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4113.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4114.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
現在的低於一兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4114.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4115.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
這個資金跑去哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4115.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4117.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
你們有沒有追一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4118.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4120.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
有沒有跑去訪視有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4122.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4124.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
這個恐怕這個應該是金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4124.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
跟金行去追 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4126.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4127.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
不是財政部去追 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4127.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4129.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
你們沒有去注意到這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4129.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4132.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
最近這兩天的股市的成交量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4132.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
昨天來說是比較低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4135.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
昨天低了八千多億而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4137.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4141.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
昨天整體來看我們以七月份來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4141.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
整體的七月份是一兆三千 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4144.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
一兆三千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4148.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
七月份的十四天平均數是一兆三千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4148.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4151.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
那昨天五月二十一號是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4151.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4155.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
如果加上上市會新規是一兆零兩百一十八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4155.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4156.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
還是超過兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4156.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
九零九八千多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4158.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
我們這邊是看上市上櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4160.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4161.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
你是加上櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4161.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
全部為上市櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4162.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4163.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
你們去注意吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4163.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
我們希望你在資金的放出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4166.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4169.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
注意到對於整個的金融市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4169.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4173.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
因為現在政府的M1B又增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4173.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4175.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
所以要去控控一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4175.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4177.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
我認為財政部還是有這個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4177.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4178.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
謝謝委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4178.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4179.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4179.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4181.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
謝謝賴志邦委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4181.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4183.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
下一位請郭國文委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4189.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4190.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4190.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4191.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
有請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4191.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4192.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4198.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4199.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4199.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4202.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
我想要跟你探討一下今天的會議主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4202.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4205.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
關於居住減壓的房屋稅跟定價稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4205.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4209.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
來因應整個台灣這個少子化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4209.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4212.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
但行政院版本當中對外講得非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4212.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4217.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
就是說基本上會有百萬戶人這個收益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4217.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4218.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
超過百萬戶人收益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4218.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4222.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
而且這個稅減可能到五十到七十五億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4222.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4224.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
我真的不曉得這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4224.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4226.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
這個新聞稿可以寫這麼大的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4226.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4228.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
這怎麼寫出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4228.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
如果對照一下行政院版本是得適當減免的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4232.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
得耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4233.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4234.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
不是因耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4234.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4236.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
那你怎麼算得出來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4236.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4239.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
那你怎麼知道地方要不要減這個稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4239.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4242.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
那五十到七十五億要怎麼算出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4242.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4244.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
百萬戶要怎麼形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4244.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
這是一個非常非常大的問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4248.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4248.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
一來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4252.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
我也稍微換算了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4252.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4254.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
你透過稅減的方式當然是最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4254.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
這是減少這個地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4258.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
甚至公所亂發獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4258.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4260.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
沒有達到實質的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4260.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4263.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
如果你去從你的相對的統計來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4263.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4266.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
從自用住宅當中的定價稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4266.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4268.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
總共是七十一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4268.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4272.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
是善所有的定價稅當中的七點二percent |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4272.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4276.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
平均的美護定價稅是一七一五元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4276.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4279.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
台北市稍微高一點是五一四億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4279.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4283.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
新北桃園、新竹、台南、高雄平均在一千多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4283.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4285.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
其他都要一千以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4286.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4288.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
單用住宅的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4288.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4291.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
基本上的總共的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4291.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4294.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
你能夠減美他負擔的大概是約這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4295.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4297.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
這個區間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4297.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4300.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
那另外你從自用住宅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4300.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
總體的稅額是一一三億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4306.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
占全部房屋稅的大概11% |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4306.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4309.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
平均大概三千五 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4309.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4312.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
簡單講你如果把全國單一住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4312.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4314.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
最多的符合資格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4314.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4316.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
能夠少多少的絕對額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4316.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4317.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
約莫是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4317.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4321.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
是定價稅加房屋稅大概是五千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4322.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4327.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
我不曉得你這個五十到七十五億是怎麼估出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4327.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
這新聞稿不要寫得太誇張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4331.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
你如果要達到這個目標的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4331.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4332.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
你要改什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4332.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
也就是說得適當減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4337.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
應改成應減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4337.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4339.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
很多委員提出來是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4339.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4343.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
你這樣居住減壓的這個因應少子化政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4343.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4345.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
才能達到這個良法美意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4345.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4348.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
部長你嘛說一下解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4348.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4350.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4350.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4351.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4351.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
在這裡我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4357.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
在自住裡面總共有650萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4357.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4359.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
以115年來看有651萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4359.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4363.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
那單一自住裡面就有318萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4363.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4365.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
318萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4365.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
所以佔的比例是大概有百分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4371.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
單一自住佔了48.8%這樣的一個金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4371.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4372.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
那單一自住裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4372.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4374.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
如果他是婚喻家庭的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4374.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4376.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
那我們當然是用一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4376.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4378.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
就是說我們先去做這樣一個估算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4378.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
先是做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
我們相信呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4384.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
我們授權地方政府去做相關的一些減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4384.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
那地方政府也會意識到少子女化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4387.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
以及在他們自治條例裡面去做相關規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4391.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4392.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
所以我們有一個區間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4392.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4395.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
我們以一個最大的一個額度的估算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4395.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4399.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
少子化本來就應該是全國共同的命運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4399.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4402.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
是國家跟家庭也是中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4402.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4405.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
可是問題你如果是有這麼大的期待的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4405.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4408.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
你就條文上不要把它用得就用因就好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4409 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4410 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4410 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4412 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
我是想說這個條文在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4412 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4414 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
我想說先跟您對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4414 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4415 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4415 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4416 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4416 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4418 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
這個應該是要從這個角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4418 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4421 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
你才能貫徹這個中央的政策嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4421 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4423 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
那你授權的條款空間越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4423 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4426 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
你達到的目標基本上就越不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4426 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4429 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
那另外本席要預留多一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4429 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4432 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
來跟您對話有關這個新青安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4432 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4433 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4433 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4434 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
新青安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4434 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4436 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
你現在有這個新的版本出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4436 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4437 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
我們討論的非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4437 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4439 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
新青安的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4439 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4440 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
我總結來說啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4440 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4441 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
它最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4441 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4443 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
如果它今天都自助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4443 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4444 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
不會有什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4445.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4447.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
問題就是在他的投資行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4447.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4450.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
也就是說會造成央行第七次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4450.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4453.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
強烈的信用管制的一個很重要的關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4453.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4457.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
就是政府的政策左右互搏的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4459.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4461.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
那你現在改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4461.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4462.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
改了這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4462.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4464.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
新的新青安版本出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4464.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4465.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4465.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4466.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
這所謂新青安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4466.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4467.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4467.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4468.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
我們就看啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4468.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4470.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
這新青安2.0的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4470.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4472.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
你曾經在立法院的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4472.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4473.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
跟輿論的壓力當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4473.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4475.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
有去查違規的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4475.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4478.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
高達10449件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4478.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
違規率高達6.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4481.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4483.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
那違規的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4483.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4484.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
出租營業跟人頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4484.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4486.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
人頭的部分還比較少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4486.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4487.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
相對這三項當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4487.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4489.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
然後是不是還有其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4489.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4490.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
老實講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4490.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4491.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
相對而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4491.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4492.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
我認為寬鬆啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4492.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4495.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
但是我想要問你一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4495.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
未來的新青安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4497.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4498.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
類似的違規出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4498.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4499.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
違規事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4499.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4500.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
還會不會再出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4500.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4502.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
你有沒有把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4502.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4504.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
把10449件降為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4504.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4505.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4506.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4507.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4507.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4510.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
新青安就是2.0的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4510.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4514.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
其實它違規的是2579件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4514.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4516.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
那1萬多件包含是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4516.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4518.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
原來的青安的1.0的包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4518.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4519.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
2500多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4519.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4521.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
那我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4521.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
我們在其實新2.0執行的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4525.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
第一個我們後來再 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4525.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4527.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
就改了一生只有一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4527.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4528.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
一生只有一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4528.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4531.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
第二個要提自助的一個切結書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4531.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4532.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
因為在一開始實施的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4532.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4533.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
並沒有這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4533.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4534.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
所以你有把握新青安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4534.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
就不會再有違規事件是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
我們不是用保證的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
我們是用加強查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4541.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
加強查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4541.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4543.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
一定會加強去查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4543.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
制度上的源頭的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
就是要阻絕有可能的落洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
結果你還是要透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4549.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
事後的加強查核 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4549.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
才有補強的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4552.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
那不就是制度設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4552.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
還有它需要再精進的空間嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4555.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4555.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4557.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
你沒有把握嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4557.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
要意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4559.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
要告訴他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4559.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
新青安為什麼大家會這麼重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4563.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
不是反對新青安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4563.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4565.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
你現在是反對新青安的投資行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4565.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4567.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
會造成房市的波動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4567.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
還有信用管制的一個失衡嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
這是第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4573.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
好 第二個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4573.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4574.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
違規的事件可能會造成這種結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4574.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4576.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
還有第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4576.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4577.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
你只抓這些違規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4579.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4582.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
你有沒有辦法處理他這個投資的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4582.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4583.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
你看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4583.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4585.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
新青安當中到14年當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4585.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4588.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
高達2893件喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4588.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4590.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
其中是1835件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4590.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4593.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
因為轉售而獲利100萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4593.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4595.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
其中有5件不到2個月轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4595.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
大賺500萬元喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4598.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
簡單的講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4598.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
他只要自備款139萬喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4600.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
月繳7000多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4600.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
繳2個月就可以獲利550萬喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4607.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
在5年之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4607.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4608.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
雖然我們兩稅合一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4608.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4611.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
有比較高的稅率來遏止這樣的交易成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4611.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4613.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
增加他的交易成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4614.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4615.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
新青安的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4616.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4617.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4620.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
新青安的目的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4620.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
是自助嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4622.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4622.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4623.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4623.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4624.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4624.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4625.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
自助的定義是第幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4625.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4626.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4628.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4629.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
什麼自助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4629.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4630.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
第幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4631.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4632.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
第六年嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4632.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4634.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
才回歸稅率10%嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4634.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4635.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4635.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4637.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
來灑在那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4637.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4638.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
就簡單的講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4638.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4640.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
你對新青安目的是自助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4640.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4642.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
他的目標是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4642.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4644.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
也就是說在5年之內的交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4644.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4645.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
只要符合兩稅合一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4645.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4647.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
基本上都不是新青安裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4647.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4649.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
可以容許的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4649.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4651.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
但是你去看你的違規行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4651.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4653.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
你的違規行為當中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4653.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4655.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
你去查到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4655.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4656.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
使用5年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4656.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4657.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
總共呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4657.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4659.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
總共基本上只會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4659.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4661.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
平均追回來利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4661.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4662.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
1萬多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4662.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
包括舊青安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4663.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4666.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
收回金的2億5千多萬當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4666.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4668.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
只是平均一件的2.3萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4668.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4669.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4669.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4670.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
你去想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4670.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4672.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
新青安在5年之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4672.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4676.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
不符合自助原則的投機炒作行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4676.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4677.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
一來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4677.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4679.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
沒有禁止轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4679.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4680.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
二來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4680.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4681.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
沒有罰則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4681.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4682.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
三來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4682.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4683.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
獲利沒有損失 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4683.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4684.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
也簡單的講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4684.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4685.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4685.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4686.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
無禁止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4686.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4687.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
無罰則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4687.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4688.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
獲利無損 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4688.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4689.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
獲利無損 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4689.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4690.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
刪無的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4690.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
刪無的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4693.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
你改成青安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4693.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4694.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
他會不會轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4694.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4695.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
我再請問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4695.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4696.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
你有沒有把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4699.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4700.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
財產權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4700.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4701.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4701.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4702.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4702.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4704.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
委員在2.0的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4704.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4705.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
有這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4705.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4706.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
3.0已經注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4706.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4708.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
第一個我們告訴他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4708.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4709.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
你只有一生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4709.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4710.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
道德宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4710.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4711.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4711.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4712.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
沒有 就是一生只有一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4712.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
我們在代管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4713.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4714.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
一生只有一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4714.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4716.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
但是他照樣會轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4716.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
他要轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4717.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4718.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
第一個就有稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4718.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
那個房地合一稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4719.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
所以他還沒有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4721.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
你這個大的方向當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4723.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
你現在就應該符合自助本息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4725.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
剛剛那個請教你了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
第二個就是有差價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
除了稅之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4729.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
我直接了當跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4731.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
你在這個政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4731.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
他違反了自助的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4735.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
你就應該適當的行政處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4735.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
也就是說你這個規範當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4737.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
要加強這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4739.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
違反這個政策的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4739.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4741.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4741.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
是 對 有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4743.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
你要去思考這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
但是問題你3.0當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
有沒有這樣的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4747.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4749.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4749.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4751.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
第一你如果違規的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4751.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
會追回你的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4753.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4755.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
第二個追回利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4755.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
違規剛剛講過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
貸款條件會重新演繹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
重新合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4759.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
你還是只有利息的追回而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4761.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
他一樣可以破例了結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4763.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
破例無損 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
他一樣可以造成投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4770.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
他一樣可以造成房市的波動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4770.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4771.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4773.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
你還是會造成那個跟房市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4773.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
整個信用管制的左右互搏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
你沒有改變這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
委員 房屋買了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4781.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
我們第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4781.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4782.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
我們已經告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4782.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4784.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
醫生你只能貸一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4784.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4786.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
那你貸的人你要增值這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4786.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4788.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
你要轉售獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4788.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4790.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
你現在這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4790.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4791.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
要克服你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4791.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4792.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
你現在這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4792.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4793.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
是要克服你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4793.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4794.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
提早進入房市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4794.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4795.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
讓他減少利息的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4795.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4797.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
而擁有自住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4797.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4798.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
自住的房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4798.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4799.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
自住的房屋沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4799.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4800.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
對 自住的房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4800.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4803.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
那何以你不能把它強化說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4803.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4804.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
符合你財政部的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4804.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4806.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
六年收台自住五年之中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4806.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4808.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
有一些約束條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4808.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4809.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
本席跟你對話的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4809.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4812.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
就是減少投機炒作的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4812.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4814.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
你不去想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4814.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4816.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
這個部分我們都想過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4816.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4818.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
那個部長想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4818.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4819.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4819.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4820.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
想一想嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4820.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4821.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4821.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4823.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
謝謝國國委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4823.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4825.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
你只有追回利息沒有意思嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4826.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4828.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4829.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4831.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
這下位請到會員委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4835.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4836.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4836.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4838.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
那個請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4843.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4844.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4844.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4848.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
那個延續國務委員的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4848.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
是不是投機 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
新清安3.0會不會造成就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4852.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4854.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
我一對夫妻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4854.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
那我這對夫妻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
其實在我先生已經用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4860.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
那個我們有一棟房子了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4860.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
那這一棟房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
如果我在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4864.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
我另外再買一棟房子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4866.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
那這一棟房子是3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4872.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
那是不是適用在新清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4872.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
那當然是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
當然是的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4876.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
那等於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4876.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4880.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
等於說就是說我這個3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4880.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4882.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
我買到這一棟房子的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4882.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
我也一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4886.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
即使我買了6000萬的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4886.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
我這3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
我是可以用新清安3.0是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4891.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4892.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4892.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4896.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
夫妻如果夫已經有房子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4896.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4899.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
我們的所謂沒有自由住宅是本人配偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4899.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
其實未成年子女都沒有自己的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4902.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
所以先生已經有了一間房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4904.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4907.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
那麼太太就不能再申請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4907.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4909.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
買一間房子申請適用新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4909.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4911.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
你要買房子當然沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4911.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
只是你不能適用新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4912.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4915.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
第二個如果在台北市買 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4915.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
你這個房屋總價是6000萬的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4918.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
那也不能適用新清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4920.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
因為我們這一次的新清安對於協助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4922.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
我們必須是要能夠精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4924.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4927.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
也就是高所得高資歷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4927.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4931.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
並不是政府要給予協助補助的一個相關的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4931.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4936.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
所以就是說我如果要用在3.0的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4936.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
我在台北市一定是要總價是3500的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4939.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
我不能超過3500 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4941.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4943.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
對不超過3500的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4944.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4948.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
好 我想部長這個新清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4948.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4951.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
這個方案的四大核心的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4951.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4955.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
其實我們都不知道他是要拯救房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4955.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4956.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
還是居住正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4956.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4959.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
其實看了你這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4959.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4961.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
其實目的到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4961.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4962.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
我們就覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4966.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
就是有很多的一個疑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4966.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
到底是政策的一個宣示的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4970.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
到底是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4970.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
是為了讓年輕人有機會買到更好的房子 |
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還是說適用他們自己的房子 |
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還是協助我們民眾可以自購住宅 |
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還是在解救這個房屋的一個市場 |
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顯然看起來這一個整個政策 |
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好像很多的一個矛盾點 |
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接著這個矛盾點 |
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跟部長做一個探討 |
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為什麼你的年紀年齡限定在小於80歲 |
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你異色黃帶一路是不是要繳到就是說最後80歲 |
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這個80歲的上限確實可能導致 |
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就是很多借款人他可能一輩子都是背著一個黃帶 |
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如果我們用2024年國人的平均壽命是80.77 |
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你是不是用這樣子算出來的 |
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5029.96 |
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為什麼不設定就是說你為什麼 |
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5034.96 |
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為什麼是設定未滿50歲的那個青安的青 |
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而不是青年的青 |
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這個這個字你怎麼算的 |
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跟委員報告 |
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我們在年齡上是已不超過50歲 |
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不超過50歲 |
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5052.96 |
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另外就是80是指年齡加上貸款期限加起來不超過80 |
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這個也就是剛剛解決 |
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剛剛委員說到80歲還在背什麼樣的一個貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
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80幾歲還在背 |
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所以我們這個部分就第一個年齡是已未滿50歲 |
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那所謂青年青安 |
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也知道我們現在第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
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現在購屋年齡有向後趨勢的 |
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所以我們也就以低於50歲做一個門檻 |
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做一個門檻 |
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那這個部分其實在我們的2.0的時候 |
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我們就知道其實 |
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如果以50歲為門檻的話 |
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其實只有影響的是5.39% |
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5090.96 |
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換言之我們上次2.0的時候是94.6%的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
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5094.96 |
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都是50歲以下都符合所謂的一個青年的一個層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
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我們看年齡40歲以下占了73% |
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5102.96 |
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簡單的講就是說你你把它拉到那個就是80歲 |
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5105.96 |
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你就是要讓這整個新青安3.0 |
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他這整個政策受惠的人更多嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
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是不是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
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不是受惠的人更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
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是我們認為應該就是把我們的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5114.96 |
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5117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
用在更需要協助的朋友們身上 |
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所以我們當然也考慮他影響的層面 |
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所以把年齡定在50這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
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50以下我們也參考2.0當時實施的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
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以及各個年齡層購屋的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
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5131.96 |
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我們知道40歲以下的是占了73% |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
而50歲以下是占了94.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5135.96 |
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5137.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
所以這個部分我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
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5141.96 |
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就目前來說購屋的年齡大概是這樣子的一個大比例的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
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5147.96 |
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我們定一個年齡同時也讓他的年齡加上貸款期限不要超過80 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5147.96 |
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5151.96 |
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我覺得這個部分是當時我們經過跨部會的多方的討論出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5151.96 |
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5154.96 |
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我是覺得未滿50歲的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
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這個明顯是寬鬆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
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5160.96 |
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跟青年的定位實在是不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
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5165.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
我們再來談到了就是以收入為篩選標準的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5165.96 |
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5170.96 |
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那你所得不能超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5172.34 |
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5174.34 |
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不能超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5174.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5176.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
我請問一下戶稅署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5178.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5181.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
來你新到的我請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5181.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5183.77 |
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你的一個月的薪水多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5183.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5184.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5189.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
說實在我不是那麼具體記得那個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5189.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5190.11 |
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你還沒有領到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
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那你的所得那個有沒有超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5197.11 |
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你跟你先生的所得合起來有沒有超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5197.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5198.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
我跟我先生兩個人當然有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5198.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5199.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
我一個人應該沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5199.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5201.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
你一個人應該沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5201.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5205.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
我跟我原報說因為我真的沒有很注意我自己的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
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因為都入帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
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沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
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那相當就是說如果就是我們財政部限制聲帶的那個貸款人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
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所得不得超過200萬就相當是業薪是15到16萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5220.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
好署長你請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5221.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5223.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5226.11 |
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如果我的業薪是15到16萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
那業薪15萬的人也可以領取政府的一個補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5230.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
然後來申請這個新清安貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5233.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5236.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
那這樣子的話這個合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5240.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
在這個部分我們是以借款人本人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5240.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
本人的一個年所得來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
也就是說我們希望政府給予補助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
不要對於所謂的高財力高資歷者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
我們希望把補助的對象更為精準去需要協助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5257.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
所以我們把定為年所得低於200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5257.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
而且是以借款人本人並負是以家戶來補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5260.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5263.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
我覺得你這個200萬會不會定的太高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5263.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
為什麼不是100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
這個等於是幫富人開了一個後門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5271.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
讓富人也可以來用新清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5271.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5275.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
200萬如果各年所得就成為富人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5275.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5277.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
我覺得這個部分我們其實衡量過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5277.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5281.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
年所得的部分我們也計算過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5281.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5285.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
大概都是不超過200萬居於比例大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5285.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5289.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
那我想這個部分也是要協助需要買房子的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5289.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5291.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
我們來做一個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5291.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5297.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
年所得200萬的人用不到你的新清安3.0了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5297.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5300.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
對啊 用不超過200萬就不適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5300.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5302.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
你這個政策其實實在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5302.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5305.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
我不知道單一個人200萬是怎麼來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5305.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5311.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
如果你用主計總處公布的2024年家庭收支調查的結果顯示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5311.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5315.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
那他每一副平均是88.8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5315.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5318.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
那儲蓄的平均是27.6萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5318.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5324.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
那你如果考量就是皇太的支出應該占總支出的三分之一的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5324.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5326.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
那算出來是200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5326.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5328.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
你是不是用這樣的算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5328.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5329.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5329.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5331.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
可是我覺得這樣的算法的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5331.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5337.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
這個計算邏輯好像有很多很多的一個很奇怪的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5337.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5340.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
如果用勞動部公布的新鮮人的一個薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5340.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5344.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
大學畢業他的中位數每個人大概是3萬4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5344.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5346.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
那研究所是5萬1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5346.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5350.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
換算年薪所得大概就是40.8萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5350.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5352.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
或是61.2萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5352.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5356.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
部長如果要鼓勵年輕的年輕人買房的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5356.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5361.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
這個算出來的數字難道會比較不是比較合乎現況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5361.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5367.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
不會那您剛剛講的那些情況其實他都是符合新清安貸款的一個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5367.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5369.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
他就在我們的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5369.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5370.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
就在你的範圍內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5370.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5374.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
對可是問題是你的那個論舉太大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5374.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5377.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
有人說大有人說小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5377.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5383.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
部長有沒有真正的財政部真正的要支持年輕人結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5383.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5385.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
我們要鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5385.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5389.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
這個看起來不知道你是喊真的還喊假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5389.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5393.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
如果我們用內政部的一個調查的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5393.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5397.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
男生結婚的年齡大概是在31歲到35歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5397.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5401.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
女生大概是26歲到30歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5401.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5405.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
那這樣子的一個平均的話就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5405.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5411.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
他如果我們用剛才延續剛才就是說我們年輕人他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5411.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5413.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
拿到的一個薪資來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5413.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5415.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
那就說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5416.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5418.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
業薪中位數大概是58萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5418.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5422.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
那一年58萬三分之一就是19萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5422.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5426.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
那貸款的額度你上調到1200萬的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5426.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5429.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
假設你的寬限期是三年貸款是30年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5429.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5433.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
那這樣就表示說你到了第37個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5433.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
開始每個月要開始還本利大概就是4.7萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5440.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
那一年要還44萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5440.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5442.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
如果貸款40年的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5442.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5447.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
還那個還款本利跟那個他的本金大概是3.7萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5447.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5451.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
一年還有56萬多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5451.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
所以我覺得這個比財政部的三分之一還高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5455.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5461.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
部長我覺得大家對你的薪金3.0顯然都還有很多的一個餘率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5461.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
是不是我們可以重新再再試著再做一些檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5467.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5471.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
大家也都很期待新清安的清安3.0的推出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5471.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5472.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
我們現在已經推出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5472.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5476.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
在執行過程當中我們會持續關注辦理的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5476.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5478.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
謝謝委員的指教 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5478.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5479.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
謝謝賴會員委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5479.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5482.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
下一位委員請林大華委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5491.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5493.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
下一位請劉書斌委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5502.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5504.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
謝謝主席 求請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5505.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5506.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
請財政部專部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5511.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5512.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5512.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5513.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
好 部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5513.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5518.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
那8月1號開始就要實施清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5518.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5522.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
那請問清安3.0這項政策的目的是要雪中送炭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5522.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5526.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
幫助真正手購的青年還是在錦上添花 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5526.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5530.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
補貼本身就有能力購買的購物者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5532.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
請問清安政策從來就是協助沒有自有住宅的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
購買房屋自住使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5541.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
我們支持青年實現購物安心成家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5541.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5543.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
這樣的一個政策目標是沒有變的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5543.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5545.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
這個部分是一定 我覺得一定會再回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5545.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
因為我們看到是無自有住宅者嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
但是這部分我們做精準的一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5551.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5553.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
但是現在我們就要問一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5553.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5555.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
就是說如果一個人曾經買房 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5555.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
而且賣房也在獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
如今他在生代時他名下沒有房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
那他也是當時可以有住嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5565.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
那現行的規定當中還是可以申請清安對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5567.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
他曾經買的那個房子是用清安來帶的話賣掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5570.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5571.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
那這就不行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5571.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5572.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
不是不是 我不是問這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5572.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5574.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
他說他曾經買過房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5574.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5575.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
他曾經買 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5575.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5576.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5576.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5579.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
對啊 我沒有說這樣你憑在多家條件嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5579.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5580.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
是不是可以買 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5581.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5584.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
他曾經買他以前買那個房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5584.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5586.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
沒有用清安貸款的協助的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5586.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5588.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
那他把他這個房子賣掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5588.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5589.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
他現在重新買一件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5589.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5591.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
而他現在明明就是他名下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5591.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5594.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
本人配偶未成年子女都沒有房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5594.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5596.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
那麼他要申請清安的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5596.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5600.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
那就要看我們今天3.0所列的一個條件是不是符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5600.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5601.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
對 好 因為本人配偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5601.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5605.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
但是問題是他如果他的村長有呢這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5605.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5606.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
就其實沒有討到這裡嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5606.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5607.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
重點在於就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5607.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5609.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
這就是制度上面的漏洞嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5609.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5613.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
因為清安3.0認定的不是真正的手購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5613.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5615.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
而是只是目前無房 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5617.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
那曾經買賣過房地產的甚至還有獲利者呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
怎麼還能夠算是手購呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5623.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
還能夠申請清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5623.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5626.45 |
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這真正的目的是要幫助行政院的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5626.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5629.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
應該都是要幫助到手購者這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5629.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5631.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
所以甚至還可以排擠資源啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5631.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5635.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
所以想請財政部再考慮說這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5635.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5637.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
當然因為馬上就要上路啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5637.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5640.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
是不是說要未來再考慮說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5640.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5641.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
又等一下也要問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5641.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5643.45 |
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你的滾動式的一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5643.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5645.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
大概什麼時候要再做滾動式的檢討出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5645.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5647.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
那是不是要考慮到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5647.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5651.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
要把這種資源留給第一次在購屋的這個親民來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5651.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5653.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
那技術上面是可行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5655.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5658.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
剛剛您提我們現在就是清安就是一生只能帶一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5658.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5660.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
他之前也沒有用過清安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5660.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5663.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
那他今天可能因為職業的變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5663.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
他可能從北部調到南部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5667.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
然後他把台北房子賣掉去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5667.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5669.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
那我們也跟他說那你就因為你有獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5669.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5674.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
是不是獲利其實也你怎麼去我們怎麼如何去追查的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5674.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5675.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
他有該繳的稅也繳了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5675.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5678.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
那所以我們現在我覺得是可以去檢討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5678.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5681.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
他是沒有自有房屋的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5681.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5682.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
我們現在去協助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5682.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5684.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
而且他也只能試用一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5685.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5687.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
這是可能的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5687.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5689.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
但是更多的情況可能不是這種情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5689.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5692.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
我覺得適度的應該做技術性的把這樣的案子要做驅噴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5692.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5694.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
應該是要做滾動式的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5694.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5696.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
尤其把這種技術性的問題要把他討論到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5696.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5699.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
如果真的是有南到北的這個差異性要把他拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5699.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5702.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
這部分我想說應該我們可以透過其他方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5702.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5706.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
財政部就說這邊要把這種區別出來要做個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5706.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5709.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
上次應該在未來的檢討當中要出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5709.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5711.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
第二個我們在看到的是還有一個問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5711.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5713.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
你雖然已經有排富了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5713.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5716.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
但是在排富這邊有看到有個缺口是在於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5716.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5720.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
以過去在租金補貼跟社宅的資格補貼這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5720.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5722.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
都是用家戶所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5722.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5725.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
那這一次的部分是針對的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5725.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5727.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
針對是個人的部分就看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5727.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5730.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
可是個人部分如果他是有夫婦的Couple的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5730.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5732.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
他有一個是兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5732.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5735.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
他一個190萬他是另外兩個190萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5735.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5737.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
那實際的話就是北半 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5737.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5739.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
就是他還是有這個資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5739.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5740.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
但是他已經告訴我了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5740.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5742.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
甚至說你們有沒有考慮到他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5742.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
他的資產就是他資產的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5746.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5750.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
他可能會是說他有的是有其他的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5752.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5754.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
其他的這種這種資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5754.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5758.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
那個資產報告可以看到說他可能又有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5758.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5759.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
因為你只看到是新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5759.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5763.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
而不是看到他還有在其他的這個叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5765.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5769.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
就是那個一粒滾粒的這種高所得的資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5769.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5770.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
這部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5770.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5772.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
那這樣你們沒有把他算進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5772.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5774.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
你是不是應該考慮到說用家戶所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5774.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5776.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
而且是應該考慮到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5776.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5779.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
也要把他的資產的部分也把他放進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5780.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
其實我們這個3.0在推出之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5785.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
也經過多次的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5785.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5787.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
跨部會的多討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5787.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
那究竟要用個人或家戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5793.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
其實如果用家戶的話可能會走入所謂的婚姻懲罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5793.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5796.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
如果兩夫妻加起來超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5796.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5797.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
那可能就不適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5797.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5799.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
我想這不是我們原來政策的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5799.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5804.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
所以我們用各借款人的個人的所得不超過200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5804.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
我想這個部分我們當時都有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5808.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
那至於要不要把其他資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5808.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5810.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
其他資產的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5810.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5812.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
他是波動性很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5812.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
而且是變動性也比較快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5818.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
所以這個部分並沒有把他記錄到這個裡面去計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5818.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
可是部長你這邊對於申請租屋的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5827.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
或者是社宅的條件你們都可以這樣做的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5827.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
那為什麼在你要對購屋的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
你們要付租的資金的成本是更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5835.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
你們竟然沒有這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5835.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5837.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
這部分不符合比例原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5837.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5839.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
部長你用這個理由來說服本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5839.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5840.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
我覺得是不接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5840.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5842.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
一般上路大眾也不能接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5844.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5847.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
我覺得這部分因為造成這個結果是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5847.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5849.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
實質的應該是在幫助的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5849.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5850.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
應該是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5850.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
因為你這個情況的話會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5854.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
好像是要幫助的是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5854.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
賣方的有房地產者他容易去脫售他的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5857.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5859.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
或是說容易去這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5859.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5861.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
這是不是順應到這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5861.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5863.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
所以這部分我覺得應該就考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5863.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5865.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
這部分應該就考慮到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5865.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
應該把他的所得跟家戶的所得跟資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5869.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
應該整體算進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5869.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
但是非常不符合這樣的一個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5873.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5874.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
是不是可以考慮進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5874.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5876.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
委員我還是要再說一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5876.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5880.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
清安政策的目的就是協助沒有自有住宅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5880.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5882.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
民眾購買房屋自住使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5882.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5885.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
我想這個部分我們非常明確是這樣的一個前提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5885.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5888.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
至於您講的租屋補貼或購買房屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5888.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5891.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
租屋跟購買房屋這兩者基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5891.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5894.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
本身也是不相同的一個經濟行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5896.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5901.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
這不是不同的經濟行為都在取得讓他有房租的錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5901.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5904.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
我這部分我希望說這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5904.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5907.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
財政部您必須要好好去針對這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5907.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5908.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
要去做個解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5908.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5911.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
就是要去理解說這事實上都有連動性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5911.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
因為你們所付出的在家是更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5913.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5914.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
而且是國家的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5914.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5916.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
那希望我們再繼續往下看這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5916.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5920.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
另外的一個情況是在於說對育兒的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5920.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5923.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
婚姻家庭這次也是一個有幫助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5923.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
但是他所涉及到的是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
這個所涉及到的金額的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5933.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
就是在於說婚姻的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5933.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5936.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
他的話是有新婚的那就一千二 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5936.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5938.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
那如果還育兒就不到一千五 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5938.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5942.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
可是這個對於需要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5942.71 |
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5944.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
需要在他的這個育兒出息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5944.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5947.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
要去降低每月還款壓力的者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5947.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
這個事實上是沒有辦法去幫助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
尤其是我們要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
他那個一千二一千五的最重要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5955.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
誰要去決定他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5957.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5960.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
能夠聲帶的額度是銀行還是在財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5961.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5963.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
這個貸款都是到銀行去辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5963.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5966.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
對銀行必須要根據金融的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5966.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
5P原則來審核貸款案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5970.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
那你這樣講來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5970.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5973.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
他如果能夠聲帶到高的這個額度的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5973.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5975.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
那是不是表示他是高所得的者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5975.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
是吧相對應的對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
不是我覺得這個部分我們在貸款的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5982.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
一定會我們要求銀行在貸款的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5982.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5985.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
民眾來聲帶的時候都要計算他每個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5985.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5988.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
對所以他基本上能夠還款的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5988.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5991.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
還款的金額導致所得的月高他才可能有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5991.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5994.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
他才可能會聲帶到更大的金額嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5994.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5996.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
如果是這樣的話就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5996.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5998.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
你可以發現到他的效果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5998.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
6000.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
就是讓更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
6001.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
6004.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
更多的房子是用高價額的話去做申購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
6004.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
6008.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
去拿到但是對於婚育最需要的婚育家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
6008.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
6009.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
他在育兒出席的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
6009.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
6013.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
他的每月的還款壓力並沒有去有什麼幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
6013.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
6015.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
而且這邊所看到的是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
6015.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
6017.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我們變成說這個低利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
6017.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
6019.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
是由政府的部分去提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
6019.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
6023.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
那政府的補貼呢是從哪裡拿出來這個補貼的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
6024.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
6025.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
是從? |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
6025.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
6028.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
利息的部分有半碼是由我們公股銀行自行吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
6028.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
6032.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
1.5碼是由住宅基金來做補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
6032.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
6034.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
對但是這些其實都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
6034.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
6039.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
尤其是社會內政部的住宅基金都是我們公共的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
6039.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
6041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
你這些部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
6041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
6044.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
那請問大概我們如果說以1130來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
6044.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
6046.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
我到底多了多少的這個資金呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
6046.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
6048.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
你知道嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
6048.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
6050.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
住宅基金我想是屬於內政部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
6050.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
6052.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
所以因為就是都是政府資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
6052.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
6054.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
所以我們的補助對象必須要是精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
6054.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
6056.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
因此在於購買房屋總價上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
6056.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
6058.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
也有一個上限的一個限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
6058.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
6060.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
對高資與高所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
6060.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
6062.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
部長你如果是婚姻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
6062.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
6064.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
因為你這是增加從1000到1500 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
6064.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
6067.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
都都是針對婚姻的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
6067.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
6068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
那這邊的增加部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
6068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
6070.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
但是你最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
6070.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
6072.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
他還是針對到高所得的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
6072.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
6074.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
所以我在想的是要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
6074.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
6076.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
部長你要強調的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
6076.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
6078.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
這個部分所造成的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
6078.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
6080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
是會造成高所得的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
6080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
6082.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
並沒有正在幫助到婚姻的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
6082.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
6084.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
所以這邊應該要說好好的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
6084.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
6086.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
我在想說是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
6086.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
6088.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
有一個我剛剛提出來那三點的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
6088.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
6090.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
是不是可以提出來一個說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
6090.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
6092.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
你們會做研議的報告部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
6092.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
6094.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
好謝謝喔謝謝子徐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
6094.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
6096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
那你提出書面補充好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
6096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
6098.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
謝謝謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
6100.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
6102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
好謝謝劉書斌委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
6102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
6104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
下一位請李坤城委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
6110.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
6112.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
6112.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
6114.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
我們請財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
6114.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
6116.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
6121.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
6123.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
6123.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
6125.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
這個新清安3.0的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
6125.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
6127.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
是8月1號開始上路嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
6129.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
6131.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
6131.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
6133.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
然後呢那其實我覺得裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
6133.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
6135.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
對於這個新婚夫妻來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
6135.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
6137.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
其實我也很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
6137.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
6139.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
就是說你們對於婚育的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
6139.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
6141.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
都與這個提高補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
6141.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
6143.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
你如果是在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
6143.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
6145.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
申請日的兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
6145.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
6147.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
完成婚姻登記的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
6147.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
6149.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
最高可以帶到1200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
6149.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
6151.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
這鼓勵新婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
6151.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
6153.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
那如果這個有未成年子女的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
6153.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
6155.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
就可以提高到1500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
6155.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
6157.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
這鼓勵生小孩啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
6157.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
6159.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
那有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
6159.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
6161.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
再請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
6161.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
6163.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
那現在就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
6163.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
6165.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
未成年的子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
6165.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
6167.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
有1500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
6167.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
6169.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
那包含就是說這個懷孕嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
6169.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
6171.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
是不是你只有領有這個媽媽手冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
6171.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
6173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
就是說那也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
6173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
6175.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
適用這個屬於這個未成年子女的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
6175.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
6177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
對是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
6177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
6179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
他是有媽媽手冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
6179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
6181.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
有媽媽手冊就可以嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
6181.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
6183.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
就是懷孕領有媽媽手冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
6183.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
6185.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
也可以這個提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
6185.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
6187.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
所以他在這個年代的時候就有這樣懷孕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
6187.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
6189.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
6189.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
6191.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
就是也可以適用到這個1500萬的額度嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
6191.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
6193.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
6193.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
6195.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
那請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
6195.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
6197.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
就是說我們當然是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
6197.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
6199.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
結婚之後就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
6199.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
6201.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
從此過著幸福美滿快樂的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
6201.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6203.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
又生小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6203.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6205.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
那萬一啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6205.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6207.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
如果說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6207.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6209.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
我們生帶了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6209.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6211.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
新鮮3.0之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6211.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6213.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
那如果萬一不幸夫妻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6213.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6215.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
那你們這個要怎麼算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6215.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6217.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
你們這個額度會墜回來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6217.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6219.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
利息會墜回來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6219.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6221.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
我想是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6221.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6223.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
因為他能夠帶到假設說新婚夫妻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6223.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6225.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
新婚夫妻先200萬嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6225.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6227.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
假設他能到1200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6227.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6229.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
表示他這個房子的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6229.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6231.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
因為我們的貸款額度還是不能超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6231.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6233.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
房屋的8成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6233.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6235.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6235.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6237.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
表示說這個房子的擔保品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6237.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6239.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
足以去讓他帶給他1200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6239.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6241.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
這個還是要有個前提 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6241.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6243.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
不是只有你有結婚就可以帶到1200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6243.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6245.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
這是增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6245.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6247.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
假設他帶了1200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6247.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6249.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
那如果說6年裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6249.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6251.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
這個6年有利息補貼情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6251.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6253.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
如果婚姻發生變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6253.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6255.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
譬如說他就離婚的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6255.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6257.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
那我們也只會就那200萬的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6257.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6259.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
從他婚姻關係消滅起 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6259.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6261.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
然後停止他這個利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6261.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6263.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
就是多的那200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6263.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6265.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
就是這200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6265.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
你說是因為我們是3加3嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
6年利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6271.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
那6年以後再離婚的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6271.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6273.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
那你如果超過6年之後離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6273.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
那6年以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
沒有關係的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
所以沒有受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
所以說如果只有6年之後再離婚的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6281.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
前面這6年的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6283.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
不會受到影響就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6285.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
那時候他有婚姻關係的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6287.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
額度也不會受到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6289.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6291.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6291.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6293.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
那如果離婚之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6293.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6295.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
那沒有房子的那一方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6295.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6297.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
還可以再去申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6298.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
離婚那當然他就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
我們在申請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
必須他本人跟配偶還有未成年之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6306.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
離婚之後嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6306.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
他就變成一個單身了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6310.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
或是單身或另外新婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6310.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6312.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
那就是用1000萬的額度再去申請就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6312.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
但是這個人本身要沒有帶過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
心情安喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
如果今天他是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
沒有帶過心情安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
然後他離婚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
然後他可以繼續再用這個新鮮的3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
那他就是單獨的一個個人嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
好這個講說是這個沒有小孩的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
如果有小孩的狀態咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6334.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
有小孩狀態我們是講是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6334.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6336.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
他遇有未成年子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6336.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
遇有未成年子女如果這房子裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
依然是有為這位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
屋主來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
撫育未成年子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
那當然他還是可以適用原來的未成年子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
的相關的貸款的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
那現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
會不會說就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
房子的所有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
跟孩子的接惑人是不同人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6356.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
那當然我們不能預期他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6360.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
未來的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6360.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6362.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6362.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6364.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
A跟B |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6364.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6366.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
A他是這個房子的所有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6366.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6368.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
但是B他擁有這個監護權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6368.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6370.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
那是B因為他有孩子的監護權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6370.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6372.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
那所以他可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6372.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6374.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
有這個心情安的這個貸款的這個優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6374.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
但是他沒有法治 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6376.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6378.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
對相關的細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6378.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6380.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
我想因為我們還是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6380.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6382.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
做詳細明確的一個問答集 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6382.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6384.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
來做回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6384.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6386.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
不是啦我現在問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6386.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6388.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
你說遇到這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6388.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6390.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
我說遇到這種情況怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6390.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6392.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
就是說你監護權跟你這個房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6392.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6394.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
所有權人是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6394.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6396.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
不一致的話那當然我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6396.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6398.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
因為原來我們1500就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6398.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6400.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
家庭居住的需求又 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6400.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6402.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
有未成年子女所以你在面積上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6402.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6404.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
可能需要空間上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6404.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6406.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
對我知道這個我都是鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6406.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6408.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
我是說萬一啦因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6408.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6410.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
總是會遇到這些問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6410.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6412.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
大家也會有這個疑問嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6412.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6414.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
我們會在問答集裡面未來會做詳細的一些規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6414.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6416.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
所以你現在還沒有一個答案就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6416.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6418.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
當然基本的原則是不變的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6418.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6420.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
所以我剛才問你遇到這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6420.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6422.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
就是說你房子的所有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6422.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6424.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
跟監護權人如果是不一樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6424.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6426.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
也就是說這個孩子不歸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6426.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6428.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
這個房屋主嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6428.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6430.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
房子歸到另外一方去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6430.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6432.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
那當然就1500萬的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6432.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6434.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
我們只就500萬的部分的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6434.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6436.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
來做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6436.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6438.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
所以就是說我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6438.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6440.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
比如說我是屋主用我的名字買的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6440.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6442.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
但是我沒有搶到這個孩子的監護權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6442.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6444.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
那所以說變成說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6444.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6446.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
我這個利息補貼就享受不到就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6446.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6448.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
對但是從那個發生變化以後啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6448.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6450.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6450.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6452.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
那所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6455.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6457.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
就是會遇到這種情況啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6457.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
就是說你不一定說你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
你用你的名字去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
聲帶心情安但是你最後沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
沒有這個監護權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
你們是以有沒有監護權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
有沒有監護權來判定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
有沒有做這個利息補貼就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
對對對是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
那所以就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
萬一遇到這種事情的話你還 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
你除了這個還要去搶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
這個孩子的監護權你才有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
有這個利息的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
那個設理我想這種婚姻發生這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
雙方都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
沒有就是說我們要把任何的問題都先想清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
相關的條款他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
之間互相的協議都應該會去考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
那你們那個分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6497.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
Q&A是哪個時候會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6497.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6499.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
就是說一定會遇到這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6499.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6501.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
我們已經有在籌備然後很快就會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6501.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6503.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
8月1號不是要上路了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6503.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6505.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
對可以啊也可以現在上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6505.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6507.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
那可以滾動的也不斷的去新增啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6507.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6509.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
或做一些調整都會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6509.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6511.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
我們會隨時做檢討調整這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6511.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6513.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
好那你們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6513.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6515.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
對於這個貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6515.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6517.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
房屋總價上限有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6517.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6519.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
上限的一個規定就是說你超過那上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6519.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6521.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
我就是不讓你貸嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6521.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6523.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
台北市3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6523.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6525.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
新北市新竹縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6525.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6527.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
2500萬其他縣市就是2000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6527.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6529.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
我只要房子總價超過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6529.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6531.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
我就不會讓你貸嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6532.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6534.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
好那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6534.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6536.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
訂這個價格是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6536.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6538.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
是有引導建商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6538.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6540.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
修正價格的用意在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6540.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6542.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
就是說你房子不要超過這個上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6542.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6544.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
如果超過這個上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6544.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6546.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
你就沒辦法用到這個新青愛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6546.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6548.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
有這個用意在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6548.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6550.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
我主要這樣的目的是為了讓就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6550.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6552.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
你有能力去買那麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6552.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6554.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
那個價錢的話那你表示你是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6554.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6556.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
高財力的高所得高資歷者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6556.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6558.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
那就不是政府要優先補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6558.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6560.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
一些對優先協助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6560.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6562.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
所以我們不需要有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6562.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6564.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
必須要有一個限制也就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6564.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6566.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
這個就是在我們2.0的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6566.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6568.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
社會有這樣的一些反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6568.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6570.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
所以我們這次就訂這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6570.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6572.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
那訂這個也是根據內政部相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6572.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6574.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
一些調查的數據裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6574.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6576.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
我們訂出這樣的一個數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6576.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6578.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
那這個會不會就是說讓建商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6578.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6580.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
知道說你房子如果超過這個總價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6580.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6582.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
這個新青愛就聲帶不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6582.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6584.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
那有沒有引導房價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6584.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6586.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
價格修正的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6586.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6588.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
這個用意在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6588.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6590.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
當然在討論過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6590.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6592.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
也有這樣的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6592.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
但是我們認為現在的一個房地產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6594.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6596.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
一個情況跟在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6596.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6598.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
推出2.0的時候情況已經有不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6598.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6600.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
而且信用管制也持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6600.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6602.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
央行的信用管制也還在持續當中 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
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那內政部也會對房地產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6604.14 |
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市場的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
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也會關注那必要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
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他們也都會加強查核以及跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6610.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6612.14 |
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政府一起去查辦有沒有炒作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
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房市的一個情況都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6616.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
去加強做這方面的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
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6618.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
這個部分在我們討論過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
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6620.14 |
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都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6622.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
那我再問一下這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
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就是說現在這個食品雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6624.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6626.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
因為我上次問過卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6626.14 |
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6628.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
他也認為說這個食品雲有很大的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6628.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6630.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
要做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6630.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6632.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
那我們現在有這個財政部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6632.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6634.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
電子發票系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6634.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6636.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
那我們這個電子發票系統跟這個衛福部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6636.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6638.14 |
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這個食品雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6638.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6640.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
這個鏈接的情況是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6640.66 |
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你說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6642.66 |
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6644.66 |
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在市面上就是有一種app |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6644.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6646.66 |
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它自己下載 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6646.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6648.66 |
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然後你平常就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
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6650.66 |
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發票可能都有存在那個app裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
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6652.66 |
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那你在下載一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6652.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6654.66 |
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它的使用有了一個程式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6654.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6656.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
它可以主動幫你掃出來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6656.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6658.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
那你到底買了哪些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
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6660.66 |
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還可以直接秀出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6660.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6662.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
但是目前我們雖然有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6662.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6664.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
電子發票系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6664.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6666.66 |
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但是好像沒有這個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6666.66 |
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6668.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
這個未來我們財政部這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6668.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6670.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
電子發票系統可不可以做像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6670.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6672.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
類似這種功能就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6672.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6674.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
你們當然是說廠商這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6674.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6676.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
勾勒了出來說到底哪些廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6676.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6678.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6680.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
其實買哪些這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6680.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6682.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
有或是說問題的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6684.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
也應該都是知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6684.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6686.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
因為你只要有買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6686.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6688.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
有買就會有發票嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6688.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6690.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
發票上面就有一個系統嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
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6691.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
報告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6691.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6693.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
我們的發票的一個系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6693.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6695.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
接接到衛福部的食品雲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6695.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6697.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
我們是根據衛福部它所提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6699.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
相關的廠商的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6699.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6701.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
然後我們每個月會給它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6701.67 |
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6703.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
我們就會每個月給它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6703.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
或隨時它要清蒸什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6707.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
我們都會給它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6707.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6709.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
那到食品雲裡面其實還有其他機關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6709.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6711.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
到進來以後它去做加值處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6711.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6713.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
那這個發票裡面你是可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6713.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6715.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
以這個桶編來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6715.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6717.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
它是買家的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6717.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6719.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
它是賣家的時候下手是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6719.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6721.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
那如何追溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6721.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
這個部分不是從這個發票單一就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6725.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
譬如說以油來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6725.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6727.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
它也有批次不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6727.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6729.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
到底哪一些有超標哪一些沒有超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6729.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
所以這些資料會整到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6733.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
衛福部那個食品雲就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6733.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6735.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
我們有借接過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6735.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6737.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
然後他們可以去做加值運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6737.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6739.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
沒有發揮多大的功效啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6739.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6741.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
就是說我們還要一個一個去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6741.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6743.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
我想衛福部這邊他們借接以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6743.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6745.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
會去做加值運用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6745.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
我現在再問你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
因為這個主院長自己都承認了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
這個食品雲還有很多精進的空間在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6753.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
那當然要精進還是要精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6753.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6755.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
民間做的都比我們還快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6755.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6757.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
謝謝李棍哲委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6757.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6759.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6759.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6761.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
下一位請林思敏委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6774.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6776.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6776.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6778.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6779.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6781.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6784.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6786.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6787.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6791.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
我們今天針對遺產及贈予稅法第15條的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6791.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6793.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
我想現行的這個第15條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6793.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6803.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
被繼承人死亡前兩年內的贈予配偶或法定繼承人等特定對象之財產需視為遺產 |
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6803.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6805.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
並入遺產總額課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6805.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
原本是為了防止被繼承人在死亡前移轉財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6811.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6813.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
規避遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6813.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6815.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
當然租稅漏洞要防堵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6817.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
但並沒有完善的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6817.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6821.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
因為某筆受證財產所增加的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6821.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6823.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
究竟應由受證人來負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6823.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6825.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
還是由全體繼承人來共同負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6825.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6827.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
產生爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6827.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6831.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
所以憲法法庭在113年的10月28號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6831.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6833.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
做出判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6833.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6837.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
第11號判決明確就指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6837.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6839.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
受證人是被繼承人的配偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6839.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6841.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
卻由其他繼承人來負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6841.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6843.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
受證人是被繼承人的配偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6843.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6851.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
卻由其他繼承人以自己繼承的財產來代替配偶負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6851.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6855.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
因受證財產所增加的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6855.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6859.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
等於要求沒有取得該筆遺產利益的繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6859.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6861.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
也需要承擔稅賦 |
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6861.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6865.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
這有違平等原則以及量能課稅的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6865.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6868.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
所以憲法法庭要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
6868.17 |
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6871.17 |
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要求因於兩年內來修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
6871.17 |
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6873.17 |
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那本席啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6873.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6876.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
以及我們許多的委員都陸續提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6877.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
那今天我們進行法案的審查啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
6880.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
這個巡達級審查 |
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6882.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
我想今天是115年的7月22號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6885.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
財政部目前的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6887.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
今天你的報告是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
6889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
已經提到行政院了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6891.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6893.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
去做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6893.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6895.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
那為什麼我本席比較好奇的就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
6895.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6898.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
為什麼財政部不能夠盡早提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6898.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6900.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
讓行政院盡早核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6900.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6903.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
將行政院的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6903.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6906.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
送到我們今天就送到立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6906.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6908.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
做弊案的一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6908.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6910.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
讓整個討論有更多的空間啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6910.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6911.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6912.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6915.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
財政部研議草案的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6915.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6917.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
我們也收集了各方的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6917.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6919.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
以及究竟要怎麼樣去更明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6919.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6922.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
一個在法條裡面定的更詳細 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6922.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6924.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
這個部分我們其實真的也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6924.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6925.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
花了一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6925.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6928.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
然後也要同各國稅局一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6928.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
那這個部分我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6930.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6933.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
我們也已經在今年初吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6933.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6935.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6935.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6938.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
那行政院的政委也已經審查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6938.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6940.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
那我相信行政院很快就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6940.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6942.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
請大院來做審議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6942.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6944.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
所以部長我們財政部在4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6944.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6947.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
就已經把修法版本送到行政院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6947.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6948.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6948.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
但行政院審了3個月到現在還沒進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6950.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6954.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
行政院當然也有我們法規會等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6954.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6955.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6957.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
已經大概都審議完畢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6957.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
是 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
對 審議完畢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
是 部長我想您講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
你4月送這一點我就肯定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
因為我們過去才看到好幾個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6969.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
對憲法法庭的判決要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6969.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
我們已經幾年內來提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
一直都到壓縣才提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
所以我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6977.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
我們希望未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6977.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6981.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
就有關於憲法法庭的判決要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6981.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6983.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
要做修法的這樣的一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6983.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6987.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
我們不管是各部會或者行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6987.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6988.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
儘速提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6988.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6991.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
而不是等到我們今天在巡達審查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6991.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6993.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
我們都還沒看到院板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6993.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6995.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
我想這很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6995.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6998.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
不是讓委員會去等院板進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6998.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6999.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
院板先進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6999.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
然後我們委員陸續提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7004.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
我想這個可能會比較這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7004.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7005.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
增加討論的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7005.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
讓版本修得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7008.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7008.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7009.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
謝謝委員我想這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7009.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7010.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
我給個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7010.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7011.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
命案審查可以讓他更周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7011.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7013.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
謝謝委員的指教 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7013.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7015.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
部長另外我們這個財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7015.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7018.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
去年9月推動網紅課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7018.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7020.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
截至今年6月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7020.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7024.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
有1242名網紅需辦理稅籍登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7024.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7026.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
累計繳納的營業稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7026.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7028.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
有5261萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7028.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
平均每個人大概4.2萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7031.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7035.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
那網紅直播主透過廣告的分潤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7035.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
會員的訂閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7037.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7039.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
抖內以及業配來取得收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7039.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
依法納稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7040.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7042.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
我想這個很好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7042.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7045.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
但是有網紅創作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7045.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7047.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
他表示他的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7047.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7050.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
真的沒有想像中那麼好賺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7050.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7052.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
普通的分潤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7052.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
就是業配之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7053.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7057.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
還要繳納平台的分潤的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7057.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
而在國外的平台分潤的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7060.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7062.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
就已經有抽成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7062.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7063.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
所以對他們來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7063.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7065.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
已經先被剝了一層皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7065.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7067.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
所以對創作者而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7067.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7070.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
同一筆分潤經過平台抽成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7070.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7073.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
境外預扣以及國內課稅後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7073.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7078.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
實際所得確實受到多層的減損 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7078.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7080.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
我想請問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7080.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
在我們現在人手易機的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7083.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
人人都有機會成為網紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7085.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
而網紅的型態也非常的多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7088.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7091.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
有遊戲類、歌唱類的直播主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7091.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7096.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
有帶貨、精品、拍賣類的直播主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7096.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7099.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
也有影片創作類、YouTube等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7099.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7102.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
對於網紅的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7102.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7105.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
財政部是否有擬定一套標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7106.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7107.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7107.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7110.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
我想在對於因為現在整個數位化情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7110.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7113.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
那個商業的行為就越來越變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7113.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7115.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
跟傳統都有很大的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7115.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7118.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
尤其是網紅的交易模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7118.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7121.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
所以在營業稅跟所得稅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7121.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7125.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
財政部都已經訂了相關的一些作業規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7125.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7128.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
而且給予相關的一些輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7128.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7130.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
至於課稅的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7130.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7132.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
當然您剛剛提的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7132.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7134.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
有一些網紅的一些表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7134.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7136.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
我們在營業稅裡面必須也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7136.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7138.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
它的銷售額達到營業稅的起點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7138.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7139.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
才有可能課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7139.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7141.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
在個人所得的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7141.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7144.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
我們是歸類為執行業務的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7144.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7146.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
當然這個部分可以扣掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7146.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7149.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
它相關的成本費用都可以算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7149.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7151.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7151.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7153.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
在執行的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7153.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7156.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
如果有什麼需要我們再做協助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7156.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7159.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
我想我們的國稅局也很願意協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7159.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7160.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
所以部長我剛才問的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7160.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7163.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
對於網紅我們有沒有擬定一套標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7163.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7166.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
因為網紅有大網紅有小網紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7166.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7169.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
有些人可能他真的收入沒那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7169.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7171.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
我們有沒有認定的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7171.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7173.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
因為大跟小當然我們是看他那個收入的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7173.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7176.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
他的銷售額等等來做區隔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7176.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7178.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
我想這個部分是不是激增15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7178.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7179.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
可以由我們署長來做補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7179.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7180.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
好請署長來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7181.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
委員好我這裡做一點簡單的補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7184.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7189.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
因為事實上在網紅課稅有一個作業規範之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7189.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
我們都有交給過各國稅局要進行輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7192.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
那輔導的期限是在今年的6月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7196.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7199.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
所以這個過程中大概有將近半年多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7199.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7201.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
所以國稅局都會針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7201.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
不管是大小網紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7202.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7204.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
我們用各式各樣的宣導方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7204.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7207.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
甚至做個別的課程宣導來做輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7207.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7209.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
我問你一個小問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7211.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7216.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
就是有一些網紅他本身就是有營業登記的營業人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7217.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7221.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
在藉由透過社群媒體他自己又成為網紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7221.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7227.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
所以這些經營事讓經營的事業更廣為人知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7227.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7229.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
所以像這類情況會如何認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7229.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7232.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
原本已經在繳納營業稅的營業人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7232.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7238.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
是否會因為當了網紅而要再被多課網紅稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7238.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7240.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
他本身已經繳了營業稅了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7240.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7241.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7242.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7244.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
去直播帶賣他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7244.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7248.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
營業稅的課稅範圍一定都是有銷售貨物或勞務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7248.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
所以不管他今天是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7250.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7254.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
就算他如果已經原來是不是有辦登記的營業人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7254.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7258.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
那他如果有相關的銷售收入的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7258.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7261.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
就依照規定來繳納營業稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7261.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7263.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
不會多繳也不會重複繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7263.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7265.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
但是因為他網紅又有賺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7265.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7267.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
還是會扣他的網紅稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7267.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7269.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
那是因為他的銷售有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7269.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7270.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7271.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7271.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7272.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7272.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7273.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7273.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7275.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
另外我再最後一題請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7275.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7276.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7276.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7279.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
部長我們根據今天最新的這個報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7279.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7284.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
美國依據1970年的貿易法122條款對全球客車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7284.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7288.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
為期150天10%的暫時性關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7288.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7291.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
預計在24號後天就要到期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7291.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7297.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
那川普政府表明將改用貿易法的301條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7297.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
以為防止強迫勞動產品流通為由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7302.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7307.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
對這個全球60國徵收10%或15% |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7307.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7309.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
12.5%的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7309.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7310.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
那請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7310.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7314.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
對於美方預估對我國課徵要大概是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7314.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7316.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
目前我們有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7318.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7322.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
委員報告這個部分會由我們經貿辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7322.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7326.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
跟美方也都一直他們一直持續的在做密切聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7326.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7329.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
也就是說12條款在7月24號屆期以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7329.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7333.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
後續301條款包含那個強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7333.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7335.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
禁止強迫勞動產品的進口以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7335.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7338.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
那個什麼產能過剩的這個部分的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7338.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7341.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
那我們也持續我們經貿辦公室也持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7341.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7343.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
跟美方在做相關的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7343.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7345.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
跟掌握情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7345.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7347.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
相關都一定有他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7347.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7350.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
那相關的資料我們都需要我們提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7350.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7351.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
我們也都持續在提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7351.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7355.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
就是我們未來台灣大概會課徵一樣是10%嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7355.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7358.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
這個部分我想經貿辦公室可能因為掌握的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7358.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7361.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
比我們更為精確跟前進這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7361.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7363.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
你沒有跨部會去跟他了解一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7363.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7366.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
我們持續有在提供相關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7366.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7369.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
也就是說因為他們要去跟美方去做聯繫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7369.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7371.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
需要我們國內的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7371.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7373.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
屬於財政部的部分我們都一直在提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7373.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7375.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
一直到財政部的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7375.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7377.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
那我該問你說你有沒有掌握到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7377.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7379.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
大概我們的稅率會落在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7379.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
這個部分我沒有辦法在這邊說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7384.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7384.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7389.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
謝謝林思敏委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7389.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
接下來我們請林黛樺委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
林黛樺委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
林黛樺委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
下一位我們請吳秉睿召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7406.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7408.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
主席麻煩請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7408.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7410.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
來請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7416.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
莊部長剛剛聽你的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7416.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7419.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
土地稅跟這個房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7419.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7422.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
你是要授權地方政府對於婚育才 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7422.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7426.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
或是有出生子女的這個房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7426.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7428.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
跟土地稅可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7429.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
得為減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7431.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7433.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
那還要經過地方自治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7433.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7435.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
由地方的議會來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7436.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7440.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
那你這裡面的稅損你是估計50到70億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7440.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7442.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
那請問這個是怎麼算出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7442.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7444.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
因為既然是得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7444.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7446.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
那地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7446.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7448.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
地方的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7448.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7450.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
地方的議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7450.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7452.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
要自治條例來訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7452.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7454.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
他也不一定會訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7454.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
或是他訂定的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7454.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7456.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
你有給他規定嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7456.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7457.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
是沒有沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7457.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7460.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
我們第一個就是說是以單一自住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7460.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7462.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
也就是目前來說他是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7462.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7464.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
只有在全國自用住宅裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7464.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7466.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
只有單一的一戶的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7466.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7468.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
這樣的一個家庭裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7468.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7470.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
對我們的問題是你的稅損是怎麼算出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7470.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7472.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
我們稅損是用我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7472.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7474.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
單一自住裡面在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7474.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7476.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
114年是有315萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7476.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7478.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
115年有318萬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7478.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7480.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
我們以這樣的戶數之下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7480.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7482.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
做一個推估對的問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7482.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7484.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
地方政府要給他減免多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7484.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7486.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
也是不確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7486.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
地方議會要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7490.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
要不要訂這個自治條例給他減免也不確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7490.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7492.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
所以你怎麼算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7492.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7494.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7494.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7496.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
我們第一個當然是用一個最大的來估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7496.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7498.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
就是假設這樣為全免的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7498.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7500.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
來做估計的一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7500.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7502.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
好那我來跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7503.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7505.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
剛剛有很多委員提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7505.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7507.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
說這是叫中央請客地方買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7507.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7509.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
我要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7509.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7511.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
你的回答如果只有針對土地稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7511.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7513.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
跟這個房屋稅的減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7513.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7515.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7515.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7517.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
聽起來好像你在對這些婚育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7517.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7519.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
對這些年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7519.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7521.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
不怎麼友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7521.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7523.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
因為你還不願意補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7523.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7525.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
但是你要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7525.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7527.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
這個少子女化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7527.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7529.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
少子女對策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7529.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7531.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
他是套餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7531.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7533.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
有的要給錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7533.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7535.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
有的要給補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7535.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7537.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
他已經給了一大堆的福利政策跟補貼了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7539.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7541.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
這個只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7541.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7543.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
警上添花的一小部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7543.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
地方政府要不要減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7545.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
地方的議會要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7547.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7549.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
通過自治條例都還要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7549.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7551.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
未定之天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7550.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7552.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
所以好像在跟你講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7552.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7554.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
50億70億你也不肯負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7554.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7556.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
像中央政府很對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7556.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7558.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
這些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7558.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7560.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
我覺得你的回答針對問題是沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7560.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7562.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
但是我們要再拉高一個更高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7562.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7564.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
層次來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7564.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7566.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
中央政府對於這些年輕人跟婚姻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7566.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7568.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
有非常多的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7568.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7570.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
包括0到18歲一個月1萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7570.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7572.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7572.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7574.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
5千塊不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7574.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7576.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
然後你幾歲以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7576.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7578.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
還有一半要存 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7578.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7580.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
存在路數5千 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7580.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7582.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
05千不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7582.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7584.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
還是存2千5 02千5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7584.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7586.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
第一個就是說其實對於未成年子女 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7586.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7588.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
政府真的是如同委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7588.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7590.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
就是整套的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7590.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7592.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
這只是其中的一小項而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7592.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7594.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
包含有育兒津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7594.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7596.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
還有公托幼托的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7596.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7598.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
政府給予相關的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7598.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7600.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
剛才還有提到這次新的成長津貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7600.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
成長津貼是0到6歲的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7604.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
每一個孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7604.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
每個月5千塊是給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7608.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
家長6歲以後到18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7608.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7610.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
就一半2500 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7610.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7612.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
是給個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7612.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7614.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
然後2500是存到專戶去到他18歲滿的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7614.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7616.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
我知道我的意思是說我們在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7616.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7618.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
這是政府整體的一個支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7618.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7620.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
我們在看這個問題的時候要看政府整體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7620.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7622.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
那你在財政部考量你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7622.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7624.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
政策的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7624.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7626.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
這個別的委員講這個也有點道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7626.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7628.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
你中央政府給我規定讓我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7628.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7630.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
要對這些年輕人減稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7630.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7632.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
但是你給我強調一個得嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7632.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7634.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
所以你可以減可以補給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7634.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7636.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
但是我如果居住在地方縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7636.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7638.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
我舉個例子台北市有減 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7638.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7640.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
我新北市沒減 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7640.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7642.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
我心目中就多利益了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7642.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7644.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
為什麼我平平實實在在我面前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7644.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7646.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
會告別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7646.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
這個待遇差這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7650.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
但是如果用陰的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7650.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7652.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
你是擔心說他就被落實說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7652.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7654.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
讓你中央請客地方買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7654.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
所以你應該要少多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
就應該要補多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7660.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
過去地方都是用這樣的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7661.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
不過我跟你講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7663.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
這裡你還要再考量一個小問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7665.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
我不知道你有沒有考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7667.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
如果你這個減免你沒有上限的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7669.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
假設減多少你補多少的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7671.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
那我地方為了要選票我全部都給你免掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7673.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7675.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
我免得越多越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7675.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7677.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
所以會變成每一個地方的補助會不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7679.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7683.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
所以我是覺得你這個政策的思考可能要再周延一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7683.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7685.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
是不是如果地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7685.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7687.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
真的有訂這個單行條例的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7687.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7691.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
他能夠免得範圍最多到哪裡是不是也要訂一個門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7691.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7693.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
也要訂一個屋頂啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7693.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7695.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
這樣子你再來考量說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7695.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7697.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
要不要適當的中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7697.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7699.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
一起來負擔這個政策我們來補助一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7701.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7703.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
是不是合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7703.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
委員報告喔其實第一個在範圍上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7705.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7707.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
已經是以單一自住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7707.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7709.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
也就是說本人配偶及未成人之地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7709.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7711.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
全國只有一間房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7711.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7713.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
這樣的一個範圍裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7713.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7715.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
對於婚姻家庭可以自用住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7715.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7717.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
而這一類的家庭其實目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7717.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7719.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
房屋稅只有一排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7719.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7721.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
它比1.2基本的1.2還低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7721.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
我知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7723.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7725.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
然後自用住宅也是千分之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7725.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7727.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
已經是那個最低的地價稅是最低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7727.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7729.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
我的意思是說如果你沒有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7729.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
在這個範圍裡面去補多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7731.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7733.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
中央補多少的話我新北的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7733.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7735.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
政府我那些議員大家就全部都免掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7735.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7737.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
都免收啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7737.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7739.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
全部都中央補啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7739.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7741.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
所以我的意思是說你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7741.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7743.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
政策要考慮周一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7743.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7745.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
我沒有在這裡跟你講說你應該要怎麼確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7745.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
因為畢竟這是你財政部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
職權我是在這邊跟你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
互相切磋這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7753.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
所以要考量很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7753.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7755.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
中央政府其實給予很大的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7755.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7757.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
那在這一方面沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7757.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7759.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
你已經照顧了99分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7759.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7761.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
最後這一分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7761.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7763.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
有人跟你爭論好像變成你是對不起人一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7763.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
不要產生這樣的錯誤的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7765.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7767.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
跟這個印象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7767.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7769.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
謝謝委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7769.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7771.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
我覺得千萬不要造成這樣印象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7771.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7773.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
第二個也中央政府的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7773.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7775.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
也不適宜讓地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7775.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7777.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
每個地方的自治條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7777.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7779.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
定的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7779.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7781.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
居住在台灣沒有多大面積 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
所有的國人都是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7785.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
別的政府想要有的權益我也要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7787.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
別的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7789.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7791.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
有的權益我也要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7791.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7793.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
我舉個例子我們以前新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7793.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7795.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
林長車馬補助分一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7795.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7797.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
1500但台北市2500 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7797.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7799.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
桃園市2500被批評了很多年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7799.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7801.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
現在侯市長從戰如流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7801.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7803.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
宣布7月1號也調回2500 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7804.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7806.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
前面那幾年我們新北市的林長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7806.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7808.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
就比較小了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
也不能這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7812.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
所以其實如果地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7812.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
大家的標準如果不一樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7816.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
其實大家感受也不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7816.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
這個也是得考慮看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
最後就是談到今天這個大法官會議的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7824.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
違憲這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7824.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
就我念法律的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
它真正的根源在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
其實稅法有一個最基本最高的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
就是拿到錢的人繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7834.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7835.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
我做生意我營業稅也是因為我做了這個生意我賺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7837.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7839.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
所以我繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7840.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
我所得稅更是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7844.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
我有多少所得稅我才繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7844.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7846.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
但是因為你在遺產稅的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7847.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7849.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
你是採種的你字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7851.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7853.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7852.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7854.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
沒有收到錢的人有可能要繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7855.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7857.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
這個就是這一次被解釋為違憲的最根本原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7860.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7862.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
但是我上次有在這邊跟你提過喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7864.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7866.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
日本的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7865.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7867.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
是拿到遺產的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7868.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7870.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
繳稅喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7870.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7872.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
它不是你字整體喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7872.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7874.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7873.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7875.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
一個被繼承的人他有多少遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7875.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7877.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
可以被幾個人繼承怎麼分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7881.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7880.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7882.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
清清楚楚在日本沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7882.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7884.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7884.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7886.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
如果你要讓我遺產跟自由的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7886.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7888.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
這個長子我都跟他一起住喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7888.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7890.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
很孝順 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7890.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7892.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
我遺族裡面我要給他50% |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7893.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7895.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
小兒子跟小女兒我也很照顧他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7895.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7897.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
但是那個他們經濟已經不錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7897.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7899.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
我給他25% |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7900.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7902.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
各有25%三個人繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7903.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7905.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
我舉這樣的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7905.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7907.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7906.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
在日本就很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7910.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
那我就拿到了那三個小朋友拿到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7911.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7913.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
遺產該繳多少遺產他們去繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7914.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7916.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
台灣不是欸台灣你給的你字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7917.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7919.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
小兒子假設有一個小兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7919.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7921.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
說為什麼我是25% |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
不要繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7923.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7925.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
你那個案子就拖著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7926.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7928.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
然後怎麼財產怎麼分配怎麼分割 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7930.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7932.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
有時候都搞不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7932.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7934.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
我就不要分割啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7934.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7936.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
那去告啊到法院去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7935.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7937.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
誰收到多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
拿到多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7941.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7943.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
由他來繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7943.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7945.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
這樣子的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7947.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
日本已經實施非常多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7947.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7949.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
也沒什麼弊端 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7949.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7951.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
我們台灣你們說說因為過去的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7951.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7955.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
我們就是你是被繼承人的遺產種兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7955.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7959.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
所以我們現在隨著這樣衍生非常多繼承上的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7960.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7962.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
也衍生出這樣的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7962.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7964.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
你今天雖然針對大法官會議解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7964.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7966.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
本席也有提出修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7966.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7968.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
但這個都只是局部的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7968.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7970.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
這個根本原因不解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7970.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7972.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
將來還會出現極端的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7972.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7974.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
再申請大法官會議解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7974.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7976.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
大法官又再根據這個來考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7977.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7979.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
因為大法官的考量很清楚嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7979.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
沒有收到錢為什麼要繳遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7982.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7984.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
這是根本他認為違憲違反平等權的最大原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7986.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7988.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
所以你這個能不能考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7988.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7990.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
收到多少遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
結果由他收到的遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7995.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
繼承了他繼承多少遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7995.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
從他繼承的遺產裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7999.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
照遺產稅該繳的稅率去繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7999.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8001.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
你覺得這樣子是不是會比較清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8002.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8004.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
謝謝委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8004.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8006.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
委員上次也有提過這樣的提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8006.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8008.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
那我們知道第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8008.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8010.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
遺產稅的計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8010.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8012.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
當然回歸到繼承的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8012.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8014.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
在民法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8014.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8016.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
繼承一開始就是共同共有的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8016.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8018.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
除非他們去做遺產的協議分割 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8018.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8020.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
最不行的時候就判決分割 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8020.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8022.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
所以在共同共有的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8022.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8024.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
他其實沒有所謂的應有部分跟持分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8024.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8026.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
所以在我們課稅的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8026.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8028.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
共同共有也有應有部分也有持分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8028.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8030.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
只是共同共有的狀態之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8030.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8032.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
所以依照法律擬置 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8032.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8034.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
共同共有結束之前沒有辦法分割 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8034.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8036.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
所以如果說我們要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8036.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8038.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
個別繼承人取得多少遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8038.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8040.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
分別去計算遺產稅的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8040.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8042.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
整個題子我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8042.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8044.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
委員提過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8044.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8046.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
第一個就是我們可能會不會介入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8046.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8048.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
繼承人之間相互的協議分割 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8048.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8050.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
的一些狀態他們如果一直沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8050.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8052.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
能夠達成協議的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8052.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8054.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
我們的繼承遺產稅就沒有辦法開課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8054.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8056.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
所以這個部分如果我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8056.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8058.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
委員的建議我們願意來做一個研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8058.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8060.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
我們可以做一個研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8060.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8062.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
從整個遺產繼承的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8062.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8064.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
一直到後面遺產稅的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8064.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8066.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
我們可以做整體的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8066.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
日本就是照這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8068.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8070.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
已經執行非常多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8070.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8072.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
你去日本取經就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8072.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8074.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
我們也可以去收集其他國際上執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8074.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8076.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8076.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8078.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
照台灣這種制度的很少啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8078.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8080.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
這裡有一個最大的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8080.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
8082.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
明明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8081.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
8083.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
你們為什麼要把兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8083.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
8085.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
繼承人死亡之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8085.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
8087.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
兩年內的那個財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8087.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
8089.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
要把它再算回來是變成遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8089.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8091.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
就原因是因為你要找 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8091.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8093.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
財種而制度嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8093.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
8095.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
不然照理來講我生前已經處分了財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8095.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8097.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
照民法的原理我生前已經處分了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8097.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8099.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
財產就不是被繼承遺產啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8100.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
這個所以你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
你們要採這個制度會衍生非常多的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
要圓這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
8108.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
就會生很多的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8108.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
好好的研究一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8113.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
8115.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
好謝謝吳秉睿召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8115.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8117.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
接下來我們請顏寬恒委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8125.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
8127.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
主席各位烈士官大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8127.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
8129.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
主席有請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8129.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
8131.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
請莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8136.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
8138.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8138.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
8140.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8140.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
8142.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
這個少指明話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8142.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
的問題是台灣目前正在面臨的國安危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8146.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
8148.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
那我想在租稅優惠這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8148.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8150.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
財政部能夠展現積極主張的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8150.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
將減輕育兒家庭負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8152.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8154.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
視為財政部政策的核心目標之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8154.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8156.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
那我想這個在7月16行政院拍板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8156.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8158.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
訂案這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8158.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8160.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
這個新青江3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8160.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8162.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8162.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8164.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
代款上線1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8164.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8166.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
那其餘的包含這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8166.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8168.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
需未滿50歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8168.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8170.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
然後房屋購買總額2000至3500 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8170.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8172.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
那其餘的包含這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8172.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8174.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
需未滿50歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8174.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8176.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
那其餘的包含這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8176.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8178.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
要求不得2000至3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8178.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8180.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
那排富門檻就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8180.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8182.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
個人借款的捏索的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8182.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8184.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
不得超過200萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8184.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8186.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
那同時利率補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8186.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8188.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
這個分年退場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8188.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8190.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
然後5年寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8189.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8191.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
那放寬婚姻家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8191.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8193.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
還有新婚家庭的代款上線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8193.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
除了這個之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8194.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8196.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
部長有沒有要補充的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8196.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8197.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
沒有提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8197.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8199.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
是的謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8199.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8200.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
第一個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8200.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
不管我們對婚姻家庭做一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8202.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8204.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
跟補助跟鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8204.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8206.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
不管是從地價稅房屋稅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8206.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8208.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
我們希望能夠給予居住減壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8208.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8210.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
對於婚姻家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8210.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8212.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
那在清安3.0裡面也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8212.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8214.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
對於沒有自有住宅的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8214.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8216.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
我們來購買房屋來協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8216.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8217.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
做自住使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8217.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8220.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
我想這個部分這兩個政策目標都是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8220.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8222.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
好 那就婚姻家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8222.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8224.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
婚姻宅這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8224.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8225.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
我們先討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8225.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8227.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
上次在質詢的時候提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8227.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8229.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
婚姻宅新清安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8229.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8231.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
新清安的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8231.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8233.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
我有看到你們有在說明這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8233.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8235.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
有說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8235.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8237.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
意圖利用新婚資格拉高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8237.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8239.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
代款額度的投機者 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8239.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8241.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
你們會嚴加的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8241.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8243.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
然後一經查獲假結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8243.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8245.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
然後這個詐貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8245.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
詐取代款的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8247.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
這些代款會消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8249.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8251.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
會失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8250.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8252.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
那我想你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8252.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8254.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
我想提出問題說你們如何進行審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8254.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8256.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
就是說什麼樣的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8256.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8258.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
會被認定是假結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8258.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8260.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
你們要如何去發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8260.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8262.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8262.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8264.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
如果發現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8263.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8265.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
代款契約失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8265.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8267.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
那有沒有另外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8267.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8269.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
這個懲罰機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8269.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8271.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
還是只有代款失效 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8271.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8273.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
這部分其實財政部交代的不是很明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8273.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8275.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
那我先前有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8275.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8277.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
在這個新婚你們認定的新婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8277.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8279.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
期間兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8279.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8281.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
如果他離婚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8281.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8283.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
他確實真正結婚啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8283.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8285.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
但是他這兩年內離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8285.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8287.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
或者是發生任何一方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8287.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8289.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
發生事故上偶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8289.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8291.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
那代款額度要如何計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8291.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8293.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
這個可不可以趁這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8293.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8295.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
部長說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8292.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8294.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
委員對於新婚還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8294.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8296.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
又有未成年之餘的家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8296.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8298.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
他要買房子我們都可以最高的祝福 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8298.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
什麼離婚啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8300.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
上偶啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8302.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
這樣子我覺得我們都覺得會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8304.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8306.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
難過也滿遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8306.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
那3.0就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8308.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8310.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
我們講到實務上如果遇到這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8310.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8312.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
如果現在就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8312.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
我們現在就講說如果第一個他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8314.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
在離婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8316.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
那以後發生離婚的話我們講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8318.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
1200萬是當時是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8320.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
新婚兩年內他來買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8322.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
然後他的房子的代款的價 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8324.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8326.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
單保價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8326.07 |
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8328.07 |
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也可以能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8328.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
帶到1200萬才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8330.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
這個案子才會成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8332.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8334.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
那成立以後假設說他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8334.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8336.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
六年裡面就是政府協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8336.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
這個代款補助裡面他六年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8338.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
裡面很遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
發生了離婚的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8342.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
那也就從離婚以後對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8344.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
他200萬那個部分的利息補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8346.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
我們就停止了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8348.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
那至於上偶我們真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8350.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
也不希望發生這樣的一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8352.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
如果真的發生很不幸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8354.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
發生這種意外上偶等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8356.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8358.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
情況下我相信我們也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8358.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8360.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
從人道的部分來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8360.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8362.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
這樣的一個事情我覺得我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8362.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8364.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
現在先不要去說萬一上偶了怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8364.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8366.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
我想這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8366.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8368.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
會讓人很難過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8368.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8370.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
我們只是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8370.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8372.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
大家祝福他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8372.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
然後政府給予一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8374.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8376.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
那如果很遺憾的發生婚姻的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8376.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
一個變化的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8378.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8380.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
只有在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8380.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8382.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
而且他又當時因為這樣的一個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8382.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8384.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
和給了相關比較多的一個額度的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8384.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8386.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
我們也從那個之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8386.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8388.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
利息停止給予一些協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8388.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8390.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8390.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8392.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
因為這個實務上一定會遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8392.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8394.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
這實務上一定會遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8394.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8396.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
實務上遇到的時候銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8396.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8398.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
在處理的時候他們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8398.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8400.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
合情合理尤其像上偶那個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8400.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8402.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
我覺得沒有人希望發生這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8402.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
那一定會經濟上也可能產生一些變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8404.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8406.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
如果發現假結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8406.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8408.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
一定會這個研辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8408.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8410.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
會處理會取消他的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8410.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8412.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
那如果是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8413.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8415.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
結婚之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8415.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8417.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
然後發生了離婚的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8417.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8419.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
那經過你也會取消他的貸款優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8419.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8421.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
優惠的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8421.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8423.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
但是如果發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8423.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8425.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
如果發生了任何一方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8425.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8427.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
發生事故 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8426.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8428.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
這是確實發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8428.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8430.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
這種情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8430.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8432.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
因為你剛剛沒有很明確的說你會怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8432.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8434.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
符合人道的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8434.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8436.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
當然我們要援助他政府要協助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8436.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8438.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
但是確實發生這個事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8438.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8440.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
所以你是要取消他的這個優惠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8440.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8442.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8441.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8443.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
讓他優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8445.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8445.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
沒有人說你只是多帶了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8449.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
那個兩百萬或五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8449.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8451.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
那個部分取得了一個利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8451.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8453.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
的一個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8453.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8455.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
這個是要讓民眾安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8455.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8457.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
那沒有人會希望說他安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8457.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8459.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
說配偶死了以後我要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8459.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8461.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
沒有不去理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8461.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
實務上因為我們都實務上確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8465.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
是常常發生因為很多這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8465.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8467.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
情況不管是生病 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8467.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8469.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
不管是這個交通事故 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8469.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8471.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
都會有這種情況的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8471.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8473.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
所以一旦發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8473.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8475.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
發生他的經濟可能就我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8475.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8477.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
一定會基於人道的立場來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8477.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8479.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8479.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8481.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
這個約會並不會因此的消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8481.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8483.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
部長的意思就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8483.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8485.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
發生這樣的不幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8485.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8487.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
所以我們政府只要查明屬實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8487.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8489.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
這個不幸發生了但是我們政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8489.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8491.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
會給你協助不會取消他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8491.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8493.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
這個優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8493.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8495.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
部長我再強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8495.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8497.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
因為就銀行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8497.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8499.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
受信審核標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8499.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8501.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
來看如果你把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8501.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8503.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
放在這個天花板就200萬以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8503.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8505.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
200萬以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8505.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
然後要去帶1500的房貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8507.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
以婚姻債為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8509.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
如果沒有其他的擔保 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8511.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8513.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
那你的收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8513.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8515.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
不到200萬幾乎無法通過核貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8515.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8517.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
幾乎無法通過核貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8517.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8519.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
如果在台北市就更不用講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8519.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8521.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
縱使你要購買3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8521.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8523.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
的這些物件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8523.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8525.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
你的收入根本不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8525.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8527.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
你200萬以內的收入根本不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8527.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8529.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
通過銀行他這個收支比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8529.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8531.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
還有還款能力的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8531.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8533.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
所以這個東西就是我們在政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8533.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
規劃上的一個內在矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8537.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
的一個內在矛盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8537.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8539.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
你行政院一方面把貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8539.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8541.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
拉高然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8541.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8543.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
一方面要設下200萬的天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8543.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8545.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
然後嚴格的受信 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8545.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8547.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
封控之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8547.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
到底吃不吃得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8549.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8551.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
看得到吃不吃得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8551.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
實務上你們有沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8553.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8555.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
在制定這個政策之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8555.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
有沒有實務上去計算說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8557.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8559.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
這個核貸機率跟這個影響評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8559.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8561.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
那我想時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8561.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
所以我再請教一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8565 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8567 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
我們以這個千安3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8567 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8569 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
如果針對白手起家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8569 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8571 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
親人來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8571 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8573 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
即便他努力的加班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8573 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8575 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
提升收入然後按時繳納 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8575 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8577 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
高額所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8577 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8579 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
但是會因為他的年收入超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8579 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8581 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
200萬的這個天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8581 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8583 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
所以就被排除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8583 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8585 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
被排除在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8585 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8587 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
縱使他的收入剛好在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8587 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8589 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
200萬以下190萬左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8589 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8591 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
那在沒有父母資產的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8591 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8593 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
一個父母資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8593 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8595 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
後盾的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8595 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8599 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
你要湊齊前面的這個兩成到三成的自備款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8599 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8601 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
這也是非常的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8601 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8603 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
就算如果假設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8603 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8605 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
今天自備款籌到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8605 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8607 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
那在目前銀行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8607 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8609 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
一個嚴格的封控之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8609 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8611 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
是有辦法帶到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8611 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8613 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
這個金額嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8613 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8615 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
部長你可以做到這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8615 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8617 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
你有深入了解有去計算過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8617.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8619.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
部長委員報告我們在3.0提出之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8619.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
我們是經過多次的會商 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8621.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
而且是跨部會以及跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8623.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8625.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
公股行一起討論出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8625.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8627.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
各項金額的一些計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8627.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
我想我也可以用我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8629.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
是不是會後用書面跟委員做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8631.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
報告那我還是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8633.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
這個政策的目的就是協助沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
自有住宅的民眾來購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
房屋自住使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8641.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
那我想民眾在買房子的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8641.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8643.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
他也會評估他自己的財力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8643.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
以及他可以可能貸款的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8645.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
額度以及他所需要的一些區位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
這都是必須要相互的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
一個去搭配的然後銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8651.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
在核貸的時候也會看他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8653.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8655.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
的收入情形以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8655.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8657.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
幫他計算你如果帶這樣款的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8657.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
每個月的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8661.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
還有本息開始繳的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8661.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
會要怎麼樣所以政府只是在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8665.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
部分來做一些利息補貼通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8665.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8667.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
寬限期的這個五年讓在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8667.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8669.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
期間他繳利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8669.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8671.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
本金先不做攤還那如果有餘款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8671.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8673.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
的話事實上是可以去提前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8673.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8675.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
還款然後減輕寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8675.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8677.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
借滿以後他可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8677.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8679.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
降低他本利這樣攤還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8679.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8681.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
的一個金額我想這個部分都必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8681.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8683.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
搭配而且貸款人他自己在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8683.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8685.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
申貸的時候也要評估自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8685.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8687.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
財力去買哪個區位的房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8687.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8689.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
對啦其實兩百萬如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8689.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8691.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
兩百萬的所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8691.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8693.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
如果在中南部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8693.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8695.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
費六都其他的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8695.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8697.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
或許是相對的優渥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8697.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8699.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
但是如果在雙北六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8699.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8701.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
這些城市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8701.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8703.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
其實他扣除掉高額的所得稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8703.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8705.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
這些扣除之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8705.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8707.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
實質購買率其實是有限的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8707.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8709.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
購買率是相當有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8709.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8711.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
所以說以全國統一的兩百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8711.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8713.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
元單一所得做為排富天花板 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8713.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8719.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
你們有經過各地區的一個房價負擔能力的計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8721.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8723.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
還有房價所得比 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8723.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8725.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
以及這個房貸負擔率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8725.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8727.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8727.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8729.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
都有經過資料收集然後做過計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8729.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8731.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
所以兩百萬天花板是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8731.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8733.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
經過計算之後才訂出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8733.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8735.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
那如果假設就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8735.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8737.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
確實購屋主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8737.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8739.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
他因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8739.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
在兩百萬所得之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8743.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
但是他沒有辦法帶到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8743.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8745.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
他的能夠得到政府政策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8745.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8747.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
一個優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8747.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8749.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
那這樣子的情況我們要怎麼去協助他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8749.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8751.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
那我不知道您所謂他又在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8751.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8753.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
兩百萬以內然後又不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8753.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8755.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
政府貸款情況是怎麼個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8755.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8757.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
所以還是個案嘛還是碰到才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8757.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8759.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
是是是的那個案情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8759.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8761.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
我們當然看個案情況來做相應的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8761.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8763.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8763.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8765.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
我想說我們最主要這些提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8765.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8767.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
都是要希望能夠透過這個租稅優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8767.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8769.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8769.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8771.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
鼓勵青年尤其是手購主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8771.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8773.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
對不對 |
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8773.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8775.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
所以這個部分我想我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8775.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8777.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
財政部還是要全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8777.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8779.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
那後續我們提到的部分再請你把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8779.46 |
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8781.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
這些資料給我們報告室 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8781.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8783.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
好我們用書面補充給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8783.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8785.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8785.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8787.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
謝謝員官和委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8787.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8789.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
下一位質詢委員李彥秀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8789.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8791.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
李彥秀委員質詢完結束之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8791.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8793.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8797.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8805.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8807.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
委員好部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8807.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8809.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
我們今天討論一正稅法的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8809.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8811.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
其實最主要是在113年度的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8811.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8813.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
有一個憲法法庭的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8813.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8815.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
有關於凝聚遺產的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8815.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8817.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
要求我們要兩年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8817.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8819.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
要修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8819.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8821.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
我們現在是用作業原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8821.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8823.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
在處理對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8823.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8825.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
好我們現在就來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8825.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8827.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8827.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8829.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8829.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8831.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8831.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8833.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8833.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8835.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8835.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8837.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8837.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8839.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8839.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8841.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8841.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8843.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8843.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8845.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8845.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8847.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8847.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8849.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8849.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8851.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
我們現在就來討論這個案件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8824.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8827.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
部長兩年時間有一點久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8827.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8829.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
我們有沒有行政院板 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8831.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8833.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
已經報行任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8833.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8835.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
政務委員審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8835.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8839.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
我們應該就會報到大院來進行審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8840 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8842 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
這個草案作業原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8842 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8844 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
放得有一點久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8844 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8848 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
我用一個作業原則來處理這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8848 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8850 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
憲法法庭在兩年內已經判 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8850 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8853 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
在最後時間已經到才來送這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8853 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8855 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
我覺得是不妥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8855 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8857 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
但是我還是就到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8857 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8859 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
就問題的最核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8859 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8861 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
我看這整件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8861 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8864 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
憲法法庭最後的判決跟精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8864 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8866 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
我想來跟部長討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8866 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8868 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
就是說上次在上次質詢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8868 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8870 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
另外一次的答詢我有跟你討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8870 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8873 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
就是說我們這一次修法的方向是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8873 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8876 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
情緒有一個案子在新聞上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8876 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8878 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
我們就看到大老婆的復仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8878 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8880 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
我簡稱大老婆的復仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8880 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8882 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
精神上其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8882 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8885 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
財產歸誰最後遺產誰拿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8885 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8887 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
就是誰來付稅就要跟著誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8887 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8889 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
這是我們最主要這次修法的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8889 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8890 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8891.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8893.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
委員說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8893.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8895.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
上次我有質詢過就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8895.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
我被懲刑有一個繼承被繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8898.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8902.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
這個死亡人他當時在身前有蹲腳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8902.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8904.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
購買上百張的保單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8904.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8907.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
這個保單的薪額高達1.6億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8907.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8909.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
那他在死亡之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8909.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8910.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
我上次講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8910.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
死亡之前這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8912.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8915.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
他把他的保險的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8915.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8917.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
他指定給 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8918.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8922.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
這個廟宇他其實他不是財團法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8922.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8924.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
他沒有被登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8924.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8927.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
就是一般的譬如說是很有名的廟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8927.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8929.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
但他沒有登記成財團法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8929.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8930.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
所以這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8930.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8932.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
當時在接受復查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8932.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8936.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
就是他有懲刑復查的時候就被駁回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8936.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8939.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
因為他不適用這個財團法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8939.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8943.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
跟有登記正式的廟宇才有機會免稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8943.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8945.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
那這個案子其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8945.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8947.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
當然後來這個案子和解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8947.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8949.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
就是陳情人到最後覺得算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8949.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8952.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
反正爸爸本來就想捐給廟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8952.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8953.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
他就多繳了稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8953.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8955.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
但是這整件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8955.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8957.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
並不符合我們這一次修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8957.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8959.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
我們的修法方向是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8959.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8961.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
遺產誰拿誰就該付稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8961.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8963.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
不管這個單位最後是免稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8963.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8965.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
那是另外一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8965.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8967.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
所以我想請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8967.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8969.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
如果未來有類似的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8970.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8972.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
再有一件類似的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8972.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8974.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
走到憲法法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8974.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
那財政部對這件事情的看法如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
既然我們現在認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
財產歸誰拿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8983.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
付稅就應該跟著誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
那你怎麼去看待這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8988.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8990.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
因為這個案子最後是和解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8990.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8992.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
這個家屬還負擔了起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8992.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
所以我多繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8993.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8995.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
沒關係我幫廟宇多繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8995.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8997.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
但是這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8997.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8999.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
跟我們現在修法的方向是相違背的 |
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我想問部長的意見是什麼 |
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是委員上次有質詢這一個個案 |
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我想我們附稅署也去所了解 |
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那是不是由我們附稅署來 |
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這個部分來做一個說明 |
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因為我今天時間有限 |
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好委員好 |
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就委員剛剛提的那個案子 |
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陳如委員了解的 |
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那因為他是 |
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談個案 |
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今天我們 |
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其實部長 |
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部長署長 |
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9025.91 |
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我沒有要跟你談個案 |
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9026.91 |
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是是 |
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9028.91 |
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我覺得這是一個納稅義務人 |
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9028.91 |
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9030.91 |
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跟受益人的錯誌 |
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9030.91 |
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9031.91 |
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對 |
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9031.91 |
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9032.91 |
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我們現在的精神是 |
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9032.91 |
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9033.91 |
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以財產歸誰拿 |
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9036.91 |
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誰就要就那部分來繳稅 |
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9036.91 |
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9037.91 |
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那我是指說 |
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9040.91 |
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未來如果再有類似的案子的話 |
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9040.91 |
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9042.91 |
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我們現在憲法已經解釋 |
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9042.91 |
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9044.91 |
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你剛剛也說我們修法的方向是 |
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9044.91 |
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9045.91 |
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錢歸誰拿 |
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9045.91 |
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9046.91 |
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那遺產歸誰拿 |
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9046.91 |
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9047.91 |
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誰就要該繳稅 |
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9047.91 |
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9049.91 |
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那類似這樣的案子 |
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9049.91 |
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9050.91 |
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其實是納稅義務人 |
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9050.91 |
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9052.91 |
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跟受益人的錯誌 |
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9054.08 |
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9056.08 |
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那未來有類似的案子 |
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9056.08 |
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9058.08 |
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到底應該誰來負擔這個稅收 |
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9059.81 |
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9061.81 |
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我再問你精神跟方向 |
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9061.81 |
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9063.81 |
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既然我們今天修法的方向是這樣子 |
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9063.81 |
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9064.81 |
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錢歸誰拿 |
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9064.81 |
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9065.81 |
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誰就該繳稅 |
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9065.81 |
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9068.81 |
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因為我們今天修法的內容是說 |
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9068.81 |
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9071.81 |
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他生前兩年內的證語 |
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9071.81 |
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9073.81 |
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那如果他今天兩年內證語 |
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9073.81 |
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9075.81 |
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因為我們是特定的對象 |
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9075.81 |
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9077.81 |
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譬如說包括他的配偶 |
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9077.81 |
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9080.81 |
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或者他的原來順位的繼承人 |
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9080.81 |
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9081.81 |
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那如果是在一個廟宇 |
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9081.81 |
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9083.81 |
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這個廟宇剛好又不是財團法人 |
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9083.81 |
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9084.81 |
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只是一般的廟宇 |
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9084.81 |
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9085.81 |
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沒有被登記 |
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9085.81 |
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9087.81 |
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那該誰誰繳 |
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9088.1 |
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9092.1 |
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因為那個就不會列入兩年內的繼承 |
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9092.1 |
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9095.1 |
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就是不會是擬製的遺產 |
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9095.1 |
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9096.1 |
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因為我們擬製的遺產 |
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9096.1 |
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9099.1 |
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是針對他生前兩年內 |
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9099.1 |
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9101.1 |
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證語特定親屬的 |
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9101.1 |
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9102.1 |
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還有包括這一些 |
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9102.1 |
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但他算是遺產喔 |
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9104.1 |
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9105.1 |
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他算是遺產 |
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9105.1 |
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9106.1 |
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那如果是兩年內的話 |
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9106.1 |
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9108.1 |
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他還是算遺產 |
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9108.1 |
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9109.1 |
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我們兩年內 |
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9110.07 |
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9112.07 |
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兩年內的證語是 |
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9112.07 |
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9113.07 |
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我們依照15條 |
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9113.07 |
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9116.07 |
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宜政稅法15條的規定 |
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9116.07 |
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9118.07 |
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他是證語特定人的 |
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9118.07 |
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9119.07 |
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就是有關係的 |
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9119.07 |
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9120.07 |
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那主要也是 |
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9120.07 |
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9122.07 |
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他算遺產嗎 |
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9122.07 |
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9124.07 |
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那如果三年他算遺產嗎 |
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9124.68 |
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9126.68 |
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他如果三年不要講兩年 |
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9126.68 |
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9127.68 |
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三年他算遺產嗎 |
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9127.68 |
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9129.68 |
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對 因為他那個案子 |
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9130.68 |
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如果委員不談個案 |
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9132.68 |
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但是委員知道那個個案 |
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9135.68 |
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是因為他是涉及保險的問題 |
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9137.68 |
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那是有另外一個層面的問題 |
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9137.68 |
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9139.68 |
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如果他單純的只是證語 |
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9139.68 |
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9140.68 |
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沒關係 不管是保險 |
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9140.68 |
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9141.68 |
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就不會進入 |
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9141.68 |
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9142.68 |
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我今天只是講 |
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9142.68 |
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9143.68 |
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我沒有要 |
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9143.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9144.68 |
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因為這個個案其實已經和解 |
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9144.68 |
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9146.68 |
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我沒有要處理個案 |
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9146.82 |
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9148.82 |
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但是我的意思是說 |
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9148.82 |
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9150.82 |
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按照這個精神 |
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9150.82 |
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9152.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
不管他是兩年內或三年內 |
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9152.82 |
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9154.82 |
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或五年之間 |
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9154.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9156.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
因為我們追剿一層 |
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9156.82 |
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9157.82 |
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五年之間 |
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9157.82 |
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9159.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
如果有類似這樣的狀況的話 |
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9159.82 |
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9160.82 |
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我們精神應該是 |
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9160.82 |
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9162.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
遺產歸誰 |
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9162.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9166.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
這個稅賦就應該是誰來負擔 |
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9166.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9168.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
不管他是不是裁判法人 |
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9168.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9170.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
或是沒有登記成裁判法人 |
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9170.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9171.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
廟宇 |
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9171.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9173.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
或者是有一個第三方的受益人 |
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9173.82 |
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9174.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
因為我們有 |
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9176.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9177.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
另外有證語稅 |
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9177.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9179.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
證語稅也就是補充 |
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9179.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9181.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
為了避免他會規避 |
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9181.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
遺產稅的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9183.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
所以基本上 |
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9183.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
他如果是證語一般的人 |
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9186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
不管他今天是兩年內一年內 |
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9188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9189.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
那都沒有問題 |
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9189.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
不會被拉回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9191.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
如果是保險 |
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9191.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9193.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
如果類似是用保險的方式 |
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9193.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
用短假的方式 |
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9194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9195.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
那怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9195.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9196.85 |
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那我們就看說 |
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因為那個是另外一個議題 |
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也就是說 |
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他並不是發生 |
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並不是單純的證語 |
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他因為要看保險 |
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他要指定受益人 |
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對 指定受益人 |
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如果他今天指定受益人裡面 |
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是屬於我們這個特種 |
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就是指定的這些特定的親屬 |
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包括配偶 |
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包括他的各社會機制 |
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如果是一般的人 |
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他就是證語稅 |
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就是一般的證語稅 |
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所以是廟宇的話 |
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也一樣是課廟宇 |
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證語稅嗎 |
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就是課證語稅 |
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9232.85 |
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證語稅跟遺產稅的稅率是一樣的 |
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9232.85 |
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9235.85 |
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不會在他被繼承人死亡的時候 |
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9238.85 |
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再拉回來做擬製的遺產 |
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我是這樣認定 |
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部長 我的建議是這樣 |
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9246.97 |
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大法官點名說 |
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9248.97 |
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我們應該是回歸到 |
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9248.97 |
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9249.97 |
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遺產歸誰 |
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就是誰來去繳稅 |
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邏輯上 |
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我的看法是 |
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不管他受益人 |
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9256.97 |
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包括保險單也好 |
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9256.97 |
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9258.97 |
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受益人哪怕是財團法人 |
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9260.97 |
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或外面的公益團體 |
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9262.97 |
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我都認為說 |
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9263.97 |
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他不應該是 |
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9264.97 |
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因為已經捐出去了 |
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9265.97 |
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有指定第三方 |
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9267.97 |
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他不應該是有繼承人 |
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9267.97 |
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9268.97 |
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來去繳那個 |
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9268.97 |
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9270.97 |
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繳那個遺產稅的部分 |
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9270.97 |
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9272.97 |
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因為他沒有實質所得 |
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9272.97 |
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9273.97 |
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我的精神是這樣 |
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9273.97 |
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9275.97 |
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我今天答詢我的重點在這裡 |
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9275.97 |
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9277.97 |
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所以我覺得在 |
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9277.97 |
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9280.97 |
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總遺產稅制當中的架構當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9280.97 |
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9281.97 |
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針對實質取得 |
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9281.97 |
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9283.97 |
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包括保險給付的部分 |
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9283.97 |
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9285.97 |
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還有非繼承受益人的部分 |
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9285.97 |
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9287.97 |
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到底設計分擔比例 |
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9288.97 |
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這個遺產分擔比例 |
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9290.97 |
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稅賦或者是代位酋長 |
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9290.97 |
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9291.97 |
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我們應該有一個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9291.97 |
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9293.97 |
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補救機制在裡面討論才對 |
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9293.97 |
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9295.97 |
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包括剛才我講的那個個案 |
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9295.97 |
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9297.97 |
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其實應該是做這樣的思考才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9297.97 |
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9298.97 |
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就是說應該是 |
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9298.97 |
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9300.97 |
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回歸到大法官的解釋 |
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9300.97 |
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9301.97 |
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遺產歸誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9301.97 |
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9302.97 |
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哪怕他是財團法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9302.97 |
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9303.97 |
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哪怕是公益團體 |
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9303.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9305.97 |
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或者是他沒有被登記成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9305.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9307.97 |
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財團法人的妙語 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9307.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9309.97 |
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我都覺得他不應該把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9309.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9310.97 |
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遺產稅制回歸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9312.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9314.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
回歸到總額裡面 |
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9314.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9315.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
繼承人來去負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9315.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9317.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
這是我要提的精神的部分 |
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9317.85 |
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9319.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
另外一個我要跟部長討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9319.85 |
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9320.85 |
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就是最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9320.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9321.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
最近包括在高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9321.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9323.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
有發布一個新聞就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9323.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9325.85 |
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未來包括出售繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9325.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9327.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
包括贈予的房地產的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9327.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9329.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
我這邊就有一個個案就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9329.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
我們現在就是稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9330.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9332.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
我們從繼承的稅率部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9332.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9335.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
我們會從45%調到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9335.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9337.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
有一個新就就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9337.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
買賣的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9339.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
這個部分我是肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9339.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9341.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
對納稅人來說當然是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9341.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9343.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
但是我這邊有一個個案就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9343.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9345.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
在土地繼承的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9345.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9347.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
財政部112年有一個韓市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9347.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
就是未來繼承的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
我有一個案例就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9353.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
有一個106年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9353.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9356.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
有一個父親在106年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9356.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9358.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
購置一個房地產 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9358.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9360.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
那106年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9360.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9362.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
父親過世了母親繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9362.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9364.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
那107年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9364.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
這個賈君繼承之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
113年他房子出售 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9370.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
後來他就被罰了稅款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9370.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9373.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
重點就是因為105年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9373.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9376.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
我們發布1月1號有房地合一稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9376.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9379.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
如果假設中間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9379.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9382.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
賈母是在105年之前過世 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9384.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9386.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
105年過世 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9386.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9388.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
他在105年就繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9388.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9390.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
同樣一個房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9390.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9392.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
他是不是就沒有房地合一稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9392.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9394.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
他就符合用舊制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9395.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9396.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
對不對 |
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9396.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9397.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9397.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9399.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
您剛剛提的那個保險的那個準授 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9399.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9401.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
然後又正宇的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9401.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9402.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
還有這個個案 |
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9402.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9404.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
是不是我們是會後請副稅署 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9404.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
跟您做一個說明好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
我提的不是個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9412.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
我提的是一個精神的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9412.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9415.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
到底新舊制的認定怎麼去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9415.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9418.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
我提的是一個憲法它的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9418.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9420.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
是不是有違反平等原則的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9420.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9421.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
公平性的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9421.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9424.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
我覺得這個是應該你們去做思考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9424.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9425.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
因為同一個房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9425.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9426.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
同一個家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9426.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9428.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
他沒有買賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9428.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9429.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
中間沒有買賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9429.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9431.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
自從母親又繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9431.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
父親的房子中間母親繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
然後最後兒子繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
他如果早期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
他如果母親過世的更早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
他就直接是兒子繼承 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9441.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
就沒有房地合一稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9441.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
他就符合用舊制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
所以我提的是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
是一個精神上的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
而不是一個繼承幾次的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9450.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9452.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
他不是因為買賣而獲利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9452.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9453.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
你了解我意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9453.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9454.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
了解了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9454.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
委員的精神出發點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9456.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9457.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
基於合理性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9457.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9458.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
我們都接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9458.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9460.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
然後我們來跟委員做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9460.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9463.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
我覺得你們應該在一個總架構之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9463.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9465.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
去想一下這個問題怎麼去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9465.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9466.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9468.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
謝謝委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9468.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9470.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
現在休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9547.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9548.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
不是有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9635.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9636.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9782.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9783.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
請大家回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9787.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9788.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9788.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9791.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
下一位請王世堅委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9804.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9807.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
我請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9807.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9814.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9815.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9815.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9816.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
部長你辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9817.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
我今天兩個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9820.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9824.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
第一個問題就是關於國票金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9824.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9828.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
國票金控是我們所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9829.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9833.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
公民營金控當中規模最小的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9834.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9838.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
那它不但規模規模不但最小 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9838.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
它獲利也最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9845.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
但是它卻有著很奇怪的這種不當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9847.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
這種人事開銷就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9850.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9853.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
它竟然設有副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9853.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9859.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
而這位副董事長年薪還高達兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9860.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
部長我曾經問過說我們公股的金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9866.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
不管是台銀金、兆豐金、合庫金、華南金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9871.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
人家他們的董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9875.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9878.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
像台灣銀行金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9879.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9880.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
台銀金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9881.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9883.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
董事長年薪才三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9884.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9887.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
就即便是第一金、華南金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9887.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9888.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
人家也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9889.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9892.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
大概三百萬到五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9893.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9895.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
這個最小的國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9896.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9898.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
還不是董事長喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9898.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
光副董事長就年薪兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
這不是很奇怪嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9904.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9905.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
更何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9906.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9907.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
更大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9909.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9912.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
更劃利更高的這些大金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9915.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
都沒有設副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9918.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9923.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
偏偏全國公民營裡面最小的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9924.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9927.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
他獨獨只有他設副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9927.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9929.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
那你們給我的答覆是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9929.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9931.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
另外還有一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9931.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
還有一個問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
我們長年持有國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
那我們的股份也高過民股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9939.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9939.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
要不然這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9942.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
為了整頓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9942.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9946.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
那是不是我們公股來併掉這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9947.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9949.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
整個國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9949.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9951.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
那你們的答覆也是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9951.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9953.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
沒有那個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9953.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9954.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
沒有那個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9954.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9956.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
你們的答覆很簡單啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9956.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9957.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
你們的答覆我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9957.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9958.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9959.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9964.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
這個國票金非本部直屬投資事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9964.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9965.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
你就答覆說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9965.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9968.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
這個不是你們直屬的投資事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9968.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9969.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9970.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9972.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
不是你直屬的投資事業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9972.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9978.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
但是是由你財政部旗下的這些公股行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9978.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9980.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
他們去持有這些股份啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
那就是當初買這些股份而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
買來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9986.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
不想要買什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9986.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
然後現在我們股份也那麼大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
把它收回自己管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9992.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
你們也不肯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9994.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9996.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
那這不是很奇怪嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9996.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9997.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
所以我首先問你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9997.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9998.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
10000.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
為什麼要設副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
10000.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
10002.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
為什麼這麼高薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
10003.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
10005.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
其他金剛都沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
10005.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
10006.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
就只有他有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
10007.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
10009.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
這不是很奇怪嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
10009.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
10010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
而且聘了這一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
10010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
10013.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
還並不是什麼有名的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
10013.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
10015.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
財經學者專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
10016.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
10017.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
獨龍不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
10018.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
10019.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
竟然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
10021.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
10023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
這個我就不提 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
10023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
10024.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
那你的看法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10026.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
10027.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
10027.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
10028.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
有關國票金控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10028.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
他有關副董事長的一個設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10033.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
第一個他在章程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
10033.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
10034.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
本身就有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10034.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10036.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
必要時得設置副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
10036.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
10038.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10038.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10039.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
然後他選任方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10039.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
10041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
也必須依照公司法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
10041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
我想這個部分在章程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10045.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
本身他必須有相關的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10045.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
10047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
第二個國票金是從100年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
10050.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
他就根據章程設有副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
10050.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
10052.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
而這一任的副董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
10052.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
10053.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
當時的一些設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10053.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
10055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
也是經過他們公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10055.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
10057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
依照公司法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10057.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
10060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
經過相關的程序以後完成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10060.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10061.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
我想這是他們公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10061.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
10064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
他現在是由我們公股在掌控的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10065.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
是 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10065.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
那這個所謂的人事章程不能更改嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
10069.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
10071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
有公股也有民股是共治的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
10071.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
10073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
我想這個國票金裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
10073.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
10074.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
不是全部都是公股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
10074.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
10075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
也還有民股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
10075.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
10078.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
但是我們公股在控制不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
10078.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
10080.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
這裡面還有民股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
10080.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10082.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
那都沒辦法去更改嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
10082.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10083.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10084.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
目前是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
10084.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
10089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
那後續當然會基於他們公司經營策略的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10092.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
後續如果他們以公司治理的一個規範去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10094.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10096.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
好啦 你說我請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
10096.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10098.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
你就是要求他們去改善嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10098.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10099.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10099.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10101.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
那要多久吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10101.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10103.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
要多久可以解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10103.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10105.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
另外我們是不是請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10105.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10106.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
我們持有股份 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10106.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10110.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
我們像公股的兆豐金第一金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10110.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10113.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
看他們願不願意來並調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
10113.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
10114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
這個國票金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10117.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
它有很多確實是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10118.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10119.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10119.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10121.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
更有能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10121.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10123.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
像我們公股有這麼多有能力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10123.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10125.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
經營的那麼好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10125.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10129.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
用那個台銀金控也可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10129.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10132.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10134.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
你看吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10133.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10134.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
我想謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10134.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10136.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
不是要做個整頓嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10136.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
謝謝委員的指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10140.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
當然當然這個公司應該要提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10140.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
第一個要把他的公司治理上軌道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10146.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
然後要提升他的一個經營績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10146.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
那我想這個部分應該要先去推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
至於後續的下一步呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10154.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
我們當然要兼顧到所謂的相關的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10154.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10155.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
市場的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10155.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10158.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
還有員工的權益都必須要去考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10158.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
那我想委員這個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
我們也會納入演義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
然後另外我想我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
其實在公股的部分提升經營績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10166.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10169.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
我們目前來說有市家金控的投信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10169.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10171.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
會在已經在推動所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10171.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10172.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
我們把它合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10172.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10174.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
然後併為一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10174.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10176.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
然後讓這個市場的規模可以更大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10176.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10178.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
這是持續我們在做推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10178.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
那國票金未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10182.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
我們先把那個公司治理讓上軌道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10182.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10184.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
然後提升他的營運績效 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10185.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10186.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10186.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10187.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
一併考量啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10187.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10188.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10188.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10189.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10189.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10193.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
因為國票金還有其他出的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10193.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10195.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
我今天是來不及敘述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10195.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10199.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
那我覺得乾脆避其功於一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10199.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
那就是由我們找我們公股的行戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
既然我們現在股份已經高於民股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
那是不是乾脆就由我們把它合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10213.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
因為很清楚當初副董事長這樣的職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10213.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10216.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
完全是百分之百的酬庸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10216.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10221.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
他的工作只有董事長因故不能執行職務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10221.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10223.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
那個副董事長來代理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10223.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10227.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
那麼舉凡那麼多年的經營裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10227.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10231.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
那董事長不能視察實務那個事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10232.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10233.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
根本沒幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10233.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10236.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
而且台北市就這麼一丁點大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10236.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10238.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
他公司就在台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10238.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10242.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
有什麼需要說副董事長代轉給董事長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10242.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10244.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
然後年薪是兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10244.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10248.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
這看在所有不管是公營行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10248.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10251.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
民營行庫裡面這個都不成體統 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10251.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10252.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10252.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10253.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
後部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10253.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10254.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10254.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10257.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
不能說這個不是你們直屬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10257.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10259.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
這個投資不能這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10259.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10261.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
因為他畢竟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10261.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10265.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
他畢竟是你旗下公股行庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10265.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
他們去持股的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
我們會積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
我們時間內就要迎來現在新清安的3.0版 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
這是非常好的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10277.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
我看民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10279.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10282.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
那個很多民間要購屋者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10282.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10284.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
他們都因應期盼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10284.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10286.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
尤其是青年購屋族 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10286.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10288.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
不過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10288.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10289.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
我們在限制說清安貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
現在額度一樣就是一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10294.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
那我們有加分寓宅加兩百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10297.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
那育兒宅可以到一千五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10301.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10304.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
但是在台北市的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10304.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10306.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
我覺得有這兩個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10306.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
蠻傷腦筋的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
就是說你所得上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10314.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
那你限兩百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10314.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
還有我們貸款的總額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
10320.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
雖然有略高於其他縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
10320.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
10323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
但是台北市的房價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
10323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
10326.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
那麼待會您可以看列出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
10326.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
10330.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
很多的地方多數地方平均價格幾乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
10330.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
10333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
是外縣市的兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
10333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
10336.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
甚至是中南部的三倍之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
10337.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
10339.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
10341.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
10342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
每平層交價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
10342.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
10344.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
不管新舊屋平均下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
10344.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
10347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
台北市是八十一萬八 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
10347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
10350.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
新北市四十五萬二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
10351 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
10354 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
等於將近兩倍之高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
10354 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
10358 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
那如果說跟桃園台中相比 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
10358 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
10361 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
那等於是將近三倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
10361 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
10365 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
所以你增加給他能夠的貸款的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
10365 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
10367 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
就多那麼一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
10367 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
10371 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
那這個額度是不是可以適度再提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
10371 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
10374 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
否則同樣的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
10374 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
10378 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
同樣你們設限貸款的總金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
10378 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
10381 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
那麼在台北買的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
10381 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
10383 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
大概就是只能買個小套房 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
10383 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
10385 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
沒辦法家裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
10385 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
10387 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
別說三代同堂了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
10387 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
10392 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
要這個生兒育兒兩代住一起都困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
10392 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
10395 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
那另外一點就是說關於婚育宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
10395 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
10398 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
你們有增加他兩百萬的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
10398 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
10399 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
貸款額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
10399 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
10402 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
那育兒宅增加到五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
10402 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
10405 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
增加又增加三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
10405 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
10406 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
10407.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
10408.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
寬限期了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
10409.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
10410.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
我們就此 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
10411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
10415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
比方說我們比方一對年輕的夫妻要結婚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
10415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
10418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
他來買這樣子的育兒宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
10418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
10420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
以這個名義來買 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
10420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
10423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
新婚那一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
10423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
10425.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
懷孕生小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
10425.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
10429.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
那小孩六歲以前最需要照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
10429.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
10430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
花費也最多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
10430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
10433.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
這樣加起來也要七年啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
10433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
10438.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
所以我認為說我們如果硬性規定只能五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
10438.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
10440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
比照一般都是五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
10440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
10443.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
我們將是為得不足啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
10443.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
10445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
所以我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
10445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
10446.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
就不差那麼一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
10446.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
10450.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
應該真正要育兒的新婚夫妻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
10450.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
10454.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
是不是我們應該放寬這個寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
10454.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
10457.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
把五年再放寬兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
10457.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
10459.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
因為這是比較特殊的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
10459.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
10461.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
現在我們少子化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
10461.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
10464.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
少子化到非常嚴重的國安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
10464.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
10465.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
10467.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10468.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
10468.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
我想這個我們3.0是經過多次會議討論結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10471.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10474.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
那您剛剛提到的婚育宅的寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10474.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10477.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
我想剛剛我們也提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10477.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10479.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
其實對於少子化這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10479.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10481.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
政府是整套政策在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10481.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
所以我們有一個人口對策的新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10483.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10486.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
裡面包含對育兒家庭的公托 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10486.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
托育補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10487.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10489.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
育兒補助以及成長經貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10489.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10492.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
是有許多用現金直接給予補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10492.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10493.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10493.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
可以強化他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10495.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
你回去好好研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10497.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10500.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
差那兩年差非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10500.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10503.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
這個也要考慮他們的財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10503.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10508.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
如果有辦法通過審核條件來貸款到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10508.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10511.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
他們也都有償還能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10511.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10513.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
不差那兩年的寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10513.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10514.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
謝謝王委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10514.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10517.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
那就請財政部研究完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10517.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10519.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
再跟王委員書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10519.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10520.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
我們也書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10520.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10522.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
是謝謝謝謝委員指教謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10523.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10526.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
下一位請羅明財委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10536.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10538.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
主席各位主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10538.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10542.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
主席可不可以請陳志全部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10543.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10547.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10547.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10548.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
官務署彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10549.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10550.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10550.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10551.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
部長你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10552.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10553.51 |
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委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10554.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
在十年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10554.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10557.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
台灣股市的市值大概多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10564.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10566.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
大概幾兆市值應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10566.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10569.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
大概不到不到20兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10569.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10571.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
那現在的市值是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10574.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10576.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
大概160兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10576.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10577.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
那我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10577.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10578.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
就第四兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10578.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10581.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
增加稅搶棍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10581.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10584.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
去年增加稅大概是變多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10585.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10587.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
您說去年是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10587.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10589.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
去年114年還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10589.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10590.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
是114 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10590.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10593.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
114年的增加稅是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10593.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10594.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10596.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10600.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
114年我們的增加稅收起的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10600.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10602.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
增加稅是收了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10602.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10603.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
我們再查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10603.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10608.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
大概是變3800億左右吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10608.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10612.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
114年我們是編了2694億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10612.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10615.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
那時收是2928億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10615.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10617.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
大概3000 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10617.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10619.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
那請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10619.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10621.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
今年的部分增加稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10621.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10624.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
其實目前為止已經多少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10624.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10628.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
目前為止增加稅到我們6月底的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10628.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10633.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
增加稅是收了3336億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10633.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10634.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10635.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
那預估這樣算起來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
如果沒有太大變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
增加稅今年的稅率應該有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
增加稅今年如果我們大概現在出估的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10647.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
可能會超過6000億吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10649.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
全年會超過6000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
那6000簡直大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10656.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
那我算了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10656.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
應該是每個人分6000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10659.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10661.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
那6000簡直大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10661.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
那我算了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10663.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10666.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
應該是每個人普發現金1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10666.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10667.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
是OK的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10667.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10669.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
有錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10669.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10675.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
我想政府的財政要考慮整體的一個韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10675.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10677.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
跟國家建設的一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10677.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10678.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
韌性也很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10678.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10680.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
你大概三四年前的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10680.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10681.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
那還要考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10681.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10682.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
舉債的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10682.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10683.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
還有舉債 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10683.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10685.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
大概抓五年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10685.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10688.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
五年前的時候稅率大概是變多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10688.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10690.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
一整年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10690.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10692.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
我們要再看一下實際的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10692.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10694.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
那跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10694.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10696.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
其實在財化法修了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10696.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10699.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
我們的營業稅本來的收入是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10699.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10701.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
小英總統那個時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10701.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10703.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
變成只有1、200億了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10703.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10704.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
小英那個時期的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10704.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10706.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
大概是大概1兆8吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10706.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10708.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
2兆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10708.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10710.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
那我們現在已經成長到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10710.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10712.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
快3兆多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10712.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10714.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
成到2千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10714.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10716.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
所以其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10717.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10719.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
錢很多啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10720.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10722.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
因為稅率增加很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10722.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10724.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
那我剛剛提的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10725.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10731.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
既然現在K型化的社會結構已經到來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10731.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10733.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
一般的基層民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10733.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10735.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
真的熬熬待哺啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10737.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10739.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
真的賺錢的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10739.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10741.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
AI啊 半導體啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10741.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10742.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
那些電子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10742.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10744.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
那些傳統的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10744.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10748.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
大概很多類股已經跌破了20年線 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10748.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10751.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
所以本席一直主張多多來照顧年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10751.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10753.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
多多來照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10756.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
辛苦的 一般的大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10756.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10758.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
普發獻金以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10758.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10759.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
勢在必行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10760.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10763.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
你不做 地方都在做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10763.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10765.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
今天有很多地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10765.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10767.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
稅務單位啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10767.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10769.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
大概陸陸續續幾年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10769.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10774.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
發5千、發6千、發8千的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10774.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10777.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
大概有幾個地方已經開始普發獻金了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10779.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10782.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
我想這個部分要跟您說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10782.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10784.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
政府的收入是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10784.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10787.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
當然要做資源最妥善的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10787.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10791.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
對於未成年人或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10791.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10793.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
我先講那個中小微企業好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10793.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10797.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
政府已經要提出中小微企業轉型升級的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10797.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10800.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
那在這裡面我們對於傳統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10800.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10802.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
除了要支持它轉型升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10802.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10805.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
然後AI化、運用化、職人工智慧化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10805.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10808.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
要讓它跟上這個整個的一個產業鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10808.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10809.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
這個部分要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10809.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10812.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
那對於所謂的青年們的一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10812.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10814.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
政府也是全面向的在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10814.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10816.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
多方面的來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10816.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10818.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
包含企業的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10818.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10820.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
然後有在一個職業環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10820.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10822.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
因為我時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10822.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10825.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
地方政府剛剛說要遞假稅、房屋稅減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10825.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10827.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
通通要做加補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10827.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10828.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
可是卻在發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10828.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10829.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10829.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10833.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
財政的資源是要做一個非常有效的運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10833.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10835.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
部長 去年普發獻金以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10835.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10838.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
滿意度跟支持度大概是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10839.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10841.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
這個部分基本上對普發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10841.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10844.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
財政部跟相關部會都努力在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10844.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10846.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
讓我們整個發放作業非常的順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10846.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10849.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
部長 去年度普發現金一萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10849.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10851.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
滿意度多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10853.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10857.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
這個部分領取率達到99.16% |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10857.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10859.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
領取99.幾啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10859.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10861.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
那滿意度呢 支持度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10861.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10865.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
面向來做讓它非常的順暢的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10865.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10866.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
請旁邊的署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10866.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10868.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
部長 今天問題都沒有回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10868.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10870.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
我給你幾分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10870.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10873.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
你趕快把剛剛問的問題回答我一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10873.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10874.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10874.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10875.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
剛剛委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10875.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10881.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
我們有做客服的服務的滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10881.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10882.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10882.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10883.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
是98點多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10883.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10885.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
98點多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10885.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10889.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
98 表示民眾對於普發現金有他殷切期盼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10889.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10890.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
再繞回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10890.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10892.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
剛剛講說地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10892.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10895.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
每個地方都有發普發現金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10895.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10897.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
5000 8000 情況是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10899.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10903.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
地方政府應該看他們自己的財力負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10903.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10905.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
來看誰來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10905.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10907.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
像新竹市有發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10907.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10909.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
來新竹發多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10908.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10909.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
3000是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10909.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10911.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
來 有發的上來一下好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10912.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10913.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
時間暫停一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10920.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10922.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
請上來 那棚屋也有發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10922.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10923.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
彰化有發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10926 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10928 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
部長 有發的你有沒有統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10928 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10929 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
他們都不敢上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10929.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10931.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
地方政府他們在發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10931.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10932.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
為什麼他們不敢上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10932.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10933.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
地方財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10933.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10934.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
那不敢上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10934.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10935.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
為什麼不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10935.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10936.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
因為剛剛他們都舉手說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10936.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10939.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
要補助三五億的老人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10939.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10941.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
那兩件嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10941.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10942.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
你該做的做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10942.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10944.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
對小孩照顧照顧嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10944.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10946.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
對老人也要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10946.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10948.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
地方要發的情況是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10950.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10954.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
地方財政單位都在這邊嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10954.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10956.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
我想他們可以做說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10956.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10958.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
那部長你請他們有發的上來講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10958.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10960.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
那要委員請啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10960.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
不是我請啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10961.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10962.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
我請啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10962.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10963.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
那個趙委請一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10963.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10965.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
有發的請他上來一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10965.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10966.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
你要指定哪一個縣市啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10966.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10968.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
都不能哪一個縣市全部都來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10968.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10971.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
他大概有發的大概有八個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10971.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10972.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
那你講哪一個縣市啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10972.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10974.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
棚屋有發啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10974.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10975.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
彰化啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10975.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10977.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
新竹啊苗栗以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10977.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10978.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
全部都要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10978.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10979.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
對都上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10979.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10981.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
彰化縣地方稅務局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10981.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10983.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
高層右科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10983.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10985.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
黃柏右科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10988.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10990.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
然後還有哪裡棚屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10990.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10991.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
劉瑞明科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10991.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10992.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10992.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10993.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
新竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10996.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
苗栗右科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10997.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10998.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
請上來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10999.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
11001.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
你有來練習我點到明請你上台啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
11003.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
11006.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
你看我請他們上來就花了快五分鐘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
11006.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
11008.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
沒有你本來就沒有那麼多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
11008.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
11009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
剩下一分鐘多而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
11009.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
11010.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
11011.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
11012.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
趕快上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
11016.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
11018.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
請問一下你們花這個錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
11019.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
11020.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
11020.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
11021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
支持度很高啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
11021.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
11022.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
有沒有什麼需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
11022.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
11023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
不好意思因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
11023.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
11025.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
發彰化發我們不是縣裡面有發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
11025.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
11027.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
我們是公所他們本身在發的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
11027.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
11029.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
公所花多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
11029.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
11031.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
我們我們知道花壇是他有發 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
11031.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
11032.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
發六千這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
11032.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
11033.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
11034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
11037.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
一定是有需要才花嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
11039.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
11041.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
最主要中央不一萬塊不花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
11041.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
11043.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
變成就你們地方自己來花啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
11045.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
11047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
另外還有誰有花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
11052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
11054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
部長啊你們以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
11054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
11056.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
剛剛彰化縣是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
11056.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
11058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
縣政府沒有發的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
11058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
11060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
花壇相公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
11060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
11061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
新竹市應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
11061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
11063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
對啊變成就是地方都有在花嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
11065.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
11067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
好啦時間關係啦你們把那個表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
11067.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
11069.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
給我好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
11069.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
11071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
那我最後講一句話就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
11071.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
11073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
因為中央都不花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
11073.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
11075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
所以地方就沒有辦法要去花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
11075.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
11077.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
那我覺得該花就花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
11077.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
11079.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
因為有很多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
11079.68 |
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是嗷嗷待哺啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
11081.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
11083.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
有的孤獨老人啦其實我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
11083.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
11085.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
談論還有疑政稅的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
11085.68 |
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11087.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
那孤獨老死掉了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
11087.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
11089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
這些以後理財怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
11089.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
11091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
孤老孤老就是他剩下他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
11091.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
11093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
自己一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
11093.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
11095.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
那今天講到疑政稅的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
11096.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
11098.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
很多東西都還沒問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
11098.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
11100.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
謝謝啦因為你書面給我好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
11100.78 |
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11102.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
對書面那以後你還有很多資訊的機會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
11102.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
11104.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
對我還在還遇得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
11104.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
11106.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
11106.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
11108.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
好下一位諮詢委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
11108.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
11110.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
請鄭政權委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
11110.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
11112.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
鄭政權委員不在請莊家斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
11115.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
11117.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
四分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
11124.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
11126.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
主席在場委員先見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
11126.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
11128.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
列席的政府央視長官員會長公眾夥伴媒體記者女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
11128.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
11130.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
有請莊部長跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
11130.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
11132.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
附稅署的樓署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
11132.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
11134.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
請財政部莊部長附稅署樓署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
11139.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
11141.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
11141.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
11143.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
因為時間有限我很快的來請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
11143.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
11145.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
總預算延宕會不會影響到長照新制的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
11145.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
11147.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
另外我們加薪抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
11147.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
11149.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
應該有成效分析來一力調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
11149.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
11151.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
我們先看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
11151.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
11153.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
我們長照三年齡啟動預算擴增 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
11153.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
11155.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
稅收挹注長照基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
11155.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
11157.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
增加了一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
11157.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
11159.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
我們的卓院長說長照三年預算突破千億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
11159.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
11161.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
但是我們仔細看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
11161.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
11163.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
總預算到目前今年度的還沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
11163.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
11165.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
會不會不利於長照三年齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
11165.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
11167.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
新增相關計畫的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
11167.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
11169.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
總預算補充部長請你這邊要幫忙到收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
11169.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
11171.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
才能夠進入到長照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
11171.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
11173.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
你覺得有沒有受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
11174.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
11176.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
財政部責收的財源是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
11176.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
11178.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
要分配到長照基金當然分配進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
11178.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
11180.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
長照推動衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
11180.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
11182.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
那當然預算我們希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
11182.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
11184.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
盡快審議通過現在都已經接近 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
11184.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
11186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
七月底了才能夠讓相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
11186.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
11188.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
市政計畫能夠順利推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
11188.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
11190.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
所以因為預算沒有審查通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
11190.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
11192.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
所以這些事情都還沒有發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
11193.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
11195.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
發生的事情還是繼續在發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
11195.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
所以那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11197.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11199.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
到底說總預算沒有過會不利嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11199.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11201.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
我問的說會不會不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11201.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11203.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
當然總預算不過對於政府的施政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11203.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11205.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
絕對會是有影響的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11205.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11207.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
所以這是總體的影響跟稅收有沒有收到沒有關聯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11207.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11209.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
在稅收的部分我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11209.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11211.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
稅收還是依法的收取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11211.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11213.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
是依法課徵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11213.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11215.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
所以總預算沒有通過依法課徵的還是照收 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11215.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11217.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
只是要用的時候不一定能夠用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11217.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11219.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11219.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11221.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
我們另外一個課題就是加薪減稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11221.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11223.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
加薪是老闆幫員工加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11223.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11225.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
所以政府幫老闆減稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11225.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11227.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
那在去年底的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11227.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11229.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
我提說加薪減稅的政策好像推動了兩年多成效不彰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11229.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11231.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
那時候我另外提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11231.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11233.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
是不是能夠說如果員工的勞退提撥率提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
11233.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11235.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
那我們就提高他的減儲率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11235.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11237.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
或者說如果你老闆幫勞工的退休提撥提高了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11237.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11239.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
他可以用來抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11239.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11241.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
還能讓渡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11241.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11243.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
那些研究的可行方法我們在想很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11243.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11245.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
但是到底是怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11245.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11247.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11247.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11249.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
我們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11249.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11251.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
我們在想很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11251.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11253.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
但是到底現在問一個問題往下一頁看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11253.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11255.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
到底目前中小企業加薪抵稅的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11255.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11257.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
從2024年開始試用之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11257.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11259.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
我們也刪除了這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11259.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11261.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
比較限制的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
11261.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11263.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
減儲率把它提高175% |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
11263.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11265.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
然後減儲率200% |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11265.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11267.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
甚至中小企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11267.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11269.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
不是大企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
11269.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11271.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
甚至他幫員工加薪3% |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
11271.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11273.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
我們就給他其他信保的融資額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
11273.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11275.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
好那足跡總署說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
11275.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11277.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
去年有三城市的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
11277.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
11279.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
已經幫員工調薪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
11279.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
11281.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
被受惠的員工有超過四城 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
11281.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
11283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
那今年也有超過三城的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
11283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
11285.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
廠商幫員工調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
11285.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
11287.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
請問部長你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
11287.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
11289.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
這表示我們加薪抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
11289.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
11291.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
已經產生效果了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
11292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
11294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
因為薪水增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
11294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
11296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
他的成本費用都會提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
11296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
11298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
所以這個可以讓他的稅賦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
11298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
11300.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
可以有多一些減向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
11300.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
11302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
支出可以做一些加成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
11302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
11304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
那另外就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
11304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11306.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
還有我們的經濟成長的果實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
11306.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
因為企業願意分享給員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
11308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11310.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
而給他們做相關的加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
11310.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11312.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
部長我要問的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
11312.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
你們有沒有因為看到足跡總署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11316.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
這些統計資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
11316.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11318.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
你們認真去看一看說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
11318.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
是不是真的我們那個加薪抵稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
11320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
11322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
有企業主幫員工加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
11322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
然後用此來跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
財政部說我要抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
有沒有 有申請租稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
又會有854家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11332.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
那適用加薪的人數有3萬4千多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11332.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
總額度加薪達到6億多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
稅損跟員工的加薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
有沒有去做個比較 譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
我們因此少受的稅可能少受個20億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11342.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
但是受惠的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11342.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11344.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
多了200億的薪資所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11344.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11346.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
有沒有這樣一個去評估過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11346.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
這個部分因為稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
這個數多因素去做減 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
不是只有這一項而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
我是說稅損他拿來抵稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11356.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
抵掉了多少稅你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11356.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
他這個不是用抵稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
他是在成本費用裡面去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
成本費用 成本費用去做加成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11364.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
減除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11364.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
那加成的減除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
那就比較複雜來稅我們往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11368.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11370.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
所以呢我們去問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11370.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11372.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
官方統計呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11372.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11374.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
34.8%的工資有調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11374.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11376.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
25年薪高但是有人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11376.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11378.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
這是因為最低工資調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11378.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11380.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
這不是我們加薪抵稅造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11380.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11382.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
部長有沒有辦法去證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11382.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11384.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
我們加薪抵稅是有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11386.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11388.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
我們這邊的統計數字是要扣除掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11388.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11390.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
因為基本工資調薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11390.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11392.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
但是政策沒有效你們怎麼去衡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11392.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11394.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
我們認為這個加速已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11394.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11396.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
到了500多家那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11396.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11398.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
經濟顧問可以繼續的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11398.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11400.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
但是我是說你說是綜合嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11400.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11402.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
所以我們看不出是不是加薪抵稅嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11402.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11404.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
有可能是基本工資調高嘛我們還有最後的結論主席站起來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11404.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11406.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
是不是請你們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11406.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11408.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
加薪抵稅的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11408.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11410.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
有沒有加到基層勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11410.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11412.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
去盤點一下是不是基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11412.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11414.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
低薪勞工有被加到薪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11414.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11416.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
所以說這個加薪的稅損跟他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11416.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11418.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
重所稅和營業稅的增長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11418.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11420.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
有沒有成效我不用現在回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11420.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11422.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
你們回去就這兩個我們的疑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11422.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11424.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
幫我們做一個分析好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11424.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11426.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
可以讓我們標準這個政策是不是真的有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11426.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11428.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11428.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11430.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
部長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11430.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11432.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
謝謝部長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11432.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11434.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11434.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11436.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
謝謝宗教病委員下一位諮詢委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11436.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11438.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
林茜琪委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11438.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11440.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
林茜琪委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11440.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11442.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
林楚英委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11442.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11444.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
林楚英委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11444.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11446.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
蘇青泉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11446.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11448.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
蘇青泉委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11448.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11450.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
張志仁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11450.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11452.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
張志仁委員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11452.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11454.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
下一位請許中信委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
11454.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11456.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
四分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11467.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11469.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
我們有請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11469.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11471.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11475.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11477.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11477.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11479.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11478.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
有四個小問題要請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11481.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11483.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
我們繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11483.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11485.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
申報遺產稅的期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11485.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11487.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
依法定有多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11489.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11491.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
六個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11490.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11492.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
有沒有可能加三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11493.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11495.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
可以延長三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11496.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11498.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
那我們遺產稅申報以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11500.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11502.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
國稅局多久會核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11502.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11504.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
盡快做核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11504.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11506.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
而且我們現在也有一些幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11506.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11508.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
查相關的財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11508.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11510.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
的一個系統來做幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11512.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11514.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
我們最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11514.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11516.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11517.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11519.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
遺產稅申報超過六個月以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11521 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11523 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
甚至超過一年以後核定的案件有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11524.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11526.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
跟委員報因為手邊沒有這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11526.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11528.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
細項的統計資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11528.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11530.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
我們是不是會後把相關的統計資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11530.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
您所提的問題我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11534.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
提供給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11534.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11536.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
因為手上沒有這個這個些項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11536.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
手邊的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11538.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11540.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
部長手上沒有但是你腦中有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11542.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
腦中有很多很多的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11546.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
但是這個真的是因為你們不敢在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11546.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11548.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
跟委員會報告是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
11548.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
11550.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
是因為預期的太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
11550.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
11552.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
民怨世奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
11552.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
11554.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
11554.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
11556.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
所以本席是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
11557.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
11559.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
被交代了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
11559.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
11561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
要替報稅人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
11561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
11563.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
納稅人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
11563.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11565.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
來訴說他們的痛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
11566.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11568.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
11568.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11570.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
最近三年申報遺產稅超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
11570.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11572.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
六個月甚至超過一年沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
11572.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11574.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
核定的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11579.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11581.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11581.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11583.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
申報遺產稅的案件裡面大概有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11583.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
百分之九十四的大概都還沒有到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
11585.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11587.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
課徵遺產稅的門檻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
11587.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11589.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
大概是百分之六需要課徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
11589.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11591.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
那至於這個期限超過六個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11591.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11593.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
月以及超過一年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
11593.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11595.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
核定的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
11595.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11597.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
我們是不是會後再提會後提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
11597.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11599.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
有沒有後面的幕僚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11599.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11601.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
可以提供數字啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
11601.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11603.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
跟委員報告我們這裡因為那個是在各國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11603.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11605.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
稅局我們可以做統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11605.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11607.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
但是跟委員報告我們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11607.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11609.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
其實很多遺產稅的申報案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11609.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11611.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
都是櫃台化案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11611.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11613.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
也就是納稅人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11613.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11615.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
或者代理人到國稅局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11615.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
來申報他立馬就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11617.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
拿到免稅證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11621.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
就可以去辦理後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11621.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
繼承登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
所以其實有很多還是櫃台化案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11627.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
然後另外有的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11627.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11629.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
核客的案件呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11629.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11631.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
其實就像部長剛剛有跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11631.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11633.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
九成四以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
11633.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
11635.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
九成四是免稅的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
11635.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
11637.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
所以六%是要繳稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
11637.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
11639.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
那跟委員報告就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
11639.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
11641.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
六%要課稅的往往他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
11641.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
11643.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
遺產是非常的複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
11643.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
11645.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
所以那需要一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
11645.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
11647.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
包括要跟繼承人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
11647.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
11649.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
他要提一些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
11649.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
11651.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
然後我們國稅局要進行查證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
11651.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
11653.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
所以往往在核客的時候是需要一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
11653.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
11655.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
十長六個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
11656.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
11658.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
都沒辦法核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
11658.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
11660.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
很多案件都沒有辦法在六個月內核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
11662.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
11664.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
所以甚至超過一年了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
11665.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
這造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
11666.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
11668.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
人民財產沒辦法分割 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
11669.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
11671.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
沒辦法移轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
11673.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
11675.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
是跟委員報告其實這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
11675.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
11677.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
我們國稅局也要請國稅局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
11677.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
11679.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
去做所有的遺產稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
11679.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
11681.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
申報案件我們其實都會列管 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
11681.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
11683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
不但列管我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
11683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
11685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
如果說納稅人有什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
11685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
11687.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
我們也會協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
11687.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
11689.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
有沒有辦法改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
11690.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
11692.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
元宴何在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
11691.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
11693.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
因為他太有錢太多遺產 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
11694.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11696.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
某些案件是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
11696.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11698.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
某些案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
11698.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11700.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
台灣貧富差距變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
11700.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11702.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
財富累積在少數人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
11703.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
11705.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
變成遺產稅的申報核定的期間沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
11705.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11707.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
依法的期間內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
11707.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11709.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
來完成核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
11710.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
11712.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
這是貧富差距造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
11712.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11714.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
那所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
11714.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
這個原因使得我們現在必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
11716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11718.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
想辦法來克服 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
11718.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11720.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
有沒有其他方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
11720.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11722.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
如果有的話用書面來提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
11722.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11724.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
因為我跟召委都是法律人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
11724.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
11726.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
我們非常守時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
11726.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11728.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
11730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
謝謝舉重性委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
11732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
下一位資訊委員請陳玉蓁委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
11745.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11747.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
謝謝主席請那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
11747.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11749.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
請財政部莊部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
11752.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11756.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
我們今天討論這個土地稅法和房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
11756.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11758.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
這個應應少子民化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
11758.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11760.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
減輕家庭負擔的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
11760.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11762.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
這個本席是支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
11762.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11764.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
但是我想再跟您再次討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
11764.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11766.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
11766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
房屋稅的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
11768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
尤其有關這個離島地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
11770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
特別是我們金門地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
11772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
這個住稅不正義的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
11774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
那之前提過嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
您知道我要問什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
11779.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11781.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
委員曾經也都很關切這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
11781.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11783.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
這個就是房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
11783.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11785.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
就是現在房屋稅它有規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
11785.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11787.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
一定要設戶籍嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11787.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11789.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
是的房屋稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
11789.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11791.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
土地稅也是地價稅也是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11791.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11793.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
那戶籍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
11793.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11795.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
設戶籍的目的是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11795.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11797.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
為了避免說你事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11797.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11799.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
不是自用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11799.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
那我舉幾個例子喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11803.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
金門鄉親住在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11803.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
但是也會回金門因為金門是郊嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11805.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
台灣是可能旅居的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11807.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11809.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
那他的戶籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11809.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11811.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
在金門他台灣住的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11811.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11813.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
也就不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
享有這個自...他的確是自用住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
卻沒有辦法享有自用住宅這個稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
這個是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
另外一種還有比如說單身的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
一位這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11823.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
原來的比如說嘉義人好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
那嘉義人到金門去工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
那他也只有一戶房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11831.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
你在問什麼吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11833.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11835.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
比如說嘉義人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11835.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11837.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
如果到金門去工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11837.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11839.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
那你也只有一戶房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11839.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11841.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
但是你為了因為坐飛機要往返 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11841.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11843.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
你必須戶口是在金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11843.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11845.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
但你的房子在嘉義好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11845.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11847.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
那你是嘉義人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11847.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11849.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
你到金門去工作公務人員好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11849.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
那你戶籍是在金門因為你常常來來往往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11853.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
金門很多事情那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11853.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11855.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
但是你事實上是住在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11855.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
你在金門工作你的戶口是在嘉義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
那你嘉義也只有一戶房子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11861.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
你是單身你也沒有辦法享有自用住宅這個稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11861.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11863.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
這個就變成是你們把那個形式的這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11863.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11865.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
沒有追究這個實質的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11865.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11867.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
我們這種自用住宅這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11867.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11869.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
如果在我提過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11869.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11871.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
單身只有一戶的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11871.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
這些異地派遣的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11875.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
需要跨縣市照顧父母的青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11875.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11877.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
這些都不是為了他們都不會炒房 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11877.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11879.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
一戶單身 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11880.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11882.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
我聽過很多次了你們這個進步到怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
因為你房屋社這個目的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
要避免那些屯房的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
很多房地產炒作的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
那你當然他沒有實際 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
居住有炒房意圖你就讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
比較高的房屋稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
地方的這個部分就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
這個事實上有這樣的情形尤其離島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
這種情形很多不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
金門籍的人在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
或是台灣籍我說比如 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
嘉義戶口人在金門這個都會遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
有很多公務人員也是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
金門工作也是遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11911.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11913.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11913.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11915.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
我不是提過很多次了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11915.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11917.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
我想自住 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11917.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11919.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
不管是地價稅原來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11919.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11921.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
這樣規定了所以我們讓房屋社 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11921.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11923.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
跟地價稅是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11923.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11925.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
所以我提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11925.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11927.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
另外就是說除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11927.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11929.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
您剛剛提到這種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11929.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11931.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
他的戶籍是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11931.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11933.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
嘉義所以他嘉義這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11933.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11935.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
房子他戶籍在金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11935.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
因為他在金門工作如果你戶籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11939.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
在嘉義你機票上每個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11939.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11941.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
往返就相對他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11941.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11943.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
考慮到福利措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11943.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
就是基本行的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
各方面福利措施的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
那我想這個部分還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11951.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
回歸到自住的話我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11951.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
房屋跟土地讓他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
一致性的設計只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11957.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
為了讓你查核方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11957.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11959.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
你們省下查核的力氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11959.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11961.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
但是這個情況下全民需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11961.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
這些人需要負擔比較大的成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11963.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11965.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
所以沒有其他的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11965.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11967.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
就實際查核比如說我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11967.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11969.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
金門房屋稅地方稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11969.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11971.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
我們金門我們可以查核我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11971.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11973.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
請他切結是不是確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11973.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11975.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
有這樣的事實這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11975.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11977.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
有時候是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
你的目的是為了避免炒房 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
他實際上是有自住 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11983.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
應該有在說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11983.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11985.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
所以地方政府願意來承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11985.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11987.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
這些東西這是房屋稅是地方稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11987.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11989.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
收像剛你們在解免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11989.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11991.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
這些東西中央買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11991.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11993.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
中央請客地方買單這個少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11993.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11995.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
實際化因為房屋稅也是地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11995.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11997.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
就沒收了這個我們也是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11997.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11999.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
但是對於實際有需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11999.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
12001.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
這樣的人我們是不是有其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
12001.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
12003.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
方法也可以由政府進行一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
12003.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
12005.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
的查核比如說地方政府他願意配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
12005.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
12007.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
也是可以啊你變成形式主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
12007.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
12009.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
就是一定要戶口設在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
12009.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
12011.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
那你對你就沒有理解到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
12011.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
12013.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
這種住在外島的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
12013.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
12015.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
他就是戶口戶口這個東西對他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
12015.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
12017.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
就是有不一樣的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
12019.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
12021.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
我提過很多而且我已經提出修法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
12021.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
12023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
我這次已經在離島 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
12023.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
12025.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
今天這條例已經提出修法了那部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
12025.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
12027.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
這個應該沒問題吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
12027.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
12029.69 |
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這在離島建設 |
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是是是對有關房屋稅這個部分 |
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有關外島居民這個房屋稅房屋 |
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的這個因為我不是說他 |
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我們說的是我們也是確實他 |
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要自住好嗎也是以後 |
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就是沒有草房玉土因為我們 |
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也不希望有草房但是呢 |
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我們有地方我們付給地方政府 |
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查核的這個權利用切結 |
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嘛地方像我們金門地區 |
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要查核有沒有人住在那裡是 |
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很容易的事情並不是一個很 |
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大的負擔如果地方願意承擔這個東西 |
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是不是給我們這個法源依據嗎 |
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您了解我的意思嗎就離島建設就針對外保嘛離島嘛 |
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那你台灣其他縣市政府要不要做 |
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我不知道但是針對離島這個部分 |
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是不是給讓離島居民是有這樣的 |
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因為離島地區 |
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因為離島地區 |
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居民都很少誰也沒有住在什麼地方是一定查得到的 |
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您了解我意思嗎然後公園也會依法去查核嘛 |
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所以用切結這個方式嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
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所以我現在先把法源打開啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
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當然我想委員是為這個金門地區的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
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找想但是因為他是有跨區 |
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跨到本島來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
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那跟本島的稅收就會有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
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就會有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
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我想這個部分我想應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
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所以在離島建設條例說你們應該不反對嘛 |
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平衡的考量要平衡的考量 |
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所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
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那你怎麼解決這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
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的確是很多人有這個問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
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你怎麼來解決這個我問很多次啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
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我們先從金門地區開始解決起嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
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那其他各縣市的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
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如果其他更新人沒有這個問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
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那當然是另外的事情 |
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當然其他各縣市也會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
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他們的立法委員會想辦法幫他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
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除了立法委員之外 |
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那這個又涉及到地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
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我想地方政府也可以表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
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針對金門地區嘛 |
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就是離島地區我們提出這樣的訴求 |
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我們就講離島地區就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
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其他地方政府要不要做他們去考慮嘛 |
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但是你在法院上要打開嘛 |
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所以我先打開法院嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
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12143.68 |
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然後讓各地地方政府他可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
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自己決定他願不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
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配合竊竭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12150.39 |
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去做這樣的查核功夫啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
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12152.39 |
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那離島這是做得到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
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好嗎 那這個法院這個應該沒有什麼議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
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可能要徵詢各地方政府的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12158.02 |
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你可以徵詢一下其他各地方政府的意見嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
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好不好 那我因為這問題已經問很多次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
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那請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
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12164.02 |
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特別重視一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
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反應的蠻多的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
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就是要福利也要自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
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不是福利 是有東西不是福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12172.02 |
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我跟你們報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
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12174.02 |
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有東西不是福利 比如說坐飛機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12176.02 |
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有時候不是福利有時候是基本權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
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比如說坐飛機 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12180.02 |
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到台灣來 這個交通是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12182.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
基本權益的基本權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12184.02 |
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涉及在那裡有一些基本的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
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12186.02 |
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它不一定等於是福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
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12188.02 |
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那你不能讓人家 |
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| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12190.02 |
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被迫他要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12193.43 |
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選擇嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12195.43 |
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只為了行政機關他查核上的方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
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行政機關就是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12199.43 |
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辯明嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12201.43 |
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你真正這個法律的目的是禁止人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
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12204.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
草房嘛 避免囤房嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12206.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
草高房價嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12208.38 |
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那如果事實上他單身又只有一戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
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那是不是就可以 |
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12212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
很明顯知道這個不是草房意圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
全國這個也是有總歸戶的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
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12216.38 |
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是這個地方也應該要考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12218.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
老百姓實際的需求嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12219.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12221.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
那個我講過很多次啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12221.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12223.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
我這次已經提出修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12225.22 |
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是 我也希望部長這個部分可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12225.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
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支持啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12229.22 |
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那另外一個部分有關金門縣的財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
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12231.22 |
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的這個部分啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12231.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
12233.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
就是我們金九公司當然是我們金門的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
12235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
地方的經濟母啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
12237.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
那也是中央的納稅大戶啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12237.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
12239.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
我想國庫署也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12239.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12241.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
我們之前 以前菸酒專賣的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12241.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
12243.22 |
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那我們這個財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
12243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
12245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
都自給自足 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
12245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
12247.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
那後來變成菸酒稅以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
12247.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
12249.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
每一年繳很多稅給中央政府嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12249.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
12251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
對吧 |
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這個您知道吧 沒問題吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
12255.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
不是附稅署啦 國庫署才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
12255.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
每一年繳很多稅嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
12257.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
12259.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
那每一年繳很多稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12259.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
12261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
裁判法的這個38之一條有一個法定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
12263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
補償義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
12263.5 |
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12265.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
他規定說如果修法導致地方收入減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12265.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
12267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
中央要籌措替代財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12267.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
12269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
結果變成有菸酒稅以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12269.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
12271.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
原本金門縣沒有不用繳的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12271.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
這個菸酒稅變成我們多繳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12273.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
12275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
我們金門縣一年多繳了幾十億給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12275.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
12277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
這個我們台北的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12277.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
12279.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
中央政府嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12280.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12282.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
所以之前裁判法都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12282.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12284.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
都有說要把金馬地區的這個菸酒稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
80%分配給各該縣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
這個我想行政院裁判法的版本也有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12288.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
行政院不分黨派執政的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12290.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
國庫署知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12292.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
都有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12294.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
那現在這個法條還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12298.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12300.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
裁判法還沒有修以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12300.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12302.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
那這個部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12302.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12304.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
怎麼樣給我們實質爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12304.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12306.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
國庫署署長有沒有什麼想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12308 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12310 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
實質爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12310 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12312 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
你知道我在說什麼吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12312 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12314 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
金門縣金門縣金門縣金門縣金門縣一年繳很多稅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12314.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12316.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12318.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
因為菸酒稅法依照規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12318.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12320.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
就是要繳菸酒稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12320.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
沒錯啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12322.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12324.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
那以前不用繳是專賣時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12326.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
那後來修法以後你讓金門縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12326.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12328.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
減少收入啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12328.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12330.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
增加支出啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12330.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
按照裁判法38之一條你要想辦法跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12334.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
回歸我們的正義啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12334.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12336.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
我們裁判法這一次114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12336.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12338.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
年底修正其實是在做裁員的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12338.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12340.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
跟這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12340.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12342.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
您剛剛提的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12342.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12344.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
菸酒稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12344.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12346.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
的有沒有受到影響其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12346.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12348.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
是兩回事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12348.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12350.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
那因為菸專賣這已經是很久以前的事了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12350.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12352.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
對啊20年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12352.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
那轉型爭議也好久以前啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12354.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
你們不是一樣在爭取嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12356.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12358.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
金門縣的轉型爭議在這裡啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12357.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12361.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
裁劃法是通過的是行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12361.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12363.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
不是是國民黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12363.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
在國民黨的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
所以我這是在補題這一條可以支持的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
這裁劃法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12371.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
修正是依照國民黨版本通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12371.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12373.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
謝謝喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12373.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
那個這部分請財政部用書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12375.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12377.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12379.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12381.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12381.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12383.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
謝謝陳先生委員的質詢下一位請葉源之委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12383.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12385.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
葉源之委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12385.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12387.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
葉源之不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12387.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12389.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12388.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12390.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
今日發言登記委員已經尋答完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12390.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12392.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
本次會議做如下決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12392.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12394.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
一說明及尋答完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12394.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12396.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
二委員質詢為其答覆或請補充資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12396.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12398.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
請相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12398.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12400.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
與州內以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12400.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12402.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
委員另要求其 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12402.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12404.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
憲者充其所定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12406.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12408.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12408.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12410.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
遺產及政與稅法修正法案第12案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12410.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12412.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
土地稅法修正法案9案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12412.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12414.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
房屋稅法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12414.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12416.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
房屋稅條例修正法案9案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12416.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12418.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
均令擇期繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12419.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
本次會議審議進行完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
團結不在場委員補題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
順便質詢一畢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12427.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
並請議事人員協助處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12427.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
現在宣布散會 |