| IVOD_ID |
17587 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17587 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
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22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-13T08:33:44+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-13T17:33:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
08:59:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/3832c314c43c373d9d49b9c4fb7920ea659b5d59e96cfac46d94474d9c748abc78e84b1f203167995ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-13T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、衛生福利部政務次長林靜儀、行政院食品安全辦公室主任許輔列席就「校園食品安全把關機制及致癌油事件因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請教育部部長鄭英耀列席就「學生出缺勤管理及校園秩序維護政策亂象檢討與改善措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
三、審查教育部函為修正「高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘停聘或資遣辦法」部分條文及「公立高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法」第五條、第六條之一條文案。
四、審查
(一)國民黨黨團擬具「教育經費編列與管理法第三條條文修正草案」案。
(二)委員林德福等25人擬具「教育經費編列與管理法增訂第三條之二條文草案」案。
(………因系統字數上限，詳見議事日程)） |
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林委員宜瑾 |
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32375.94721875 |
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林委員宜瑾 |
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| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
1590.39 |
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1593.39 |
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報告委員會 出席委員已足法定人數現在開會 |
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1593.71 |
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1596.67 |
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現在先進行報告事項 |
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1596.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1599.83 |
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請議事人員宣讀上次的會議事錄 |
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1601 |
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1605.4 |
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立法院第11屆第5會期 教育局文化委員會第18次全體委員會議事錄 |
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1605.4 |
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1607.76 |
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時間中外民國1月5年6月29日 |
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1607.76 |
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1610 |
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上午90至下午13分 |
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1610.32 |
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1611.84 |
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1月5年7月1日 |
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1611.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
1614.16 |
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上午93分至下午30分30分 |
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1614.36 |
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1615.8 |
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1月5年7月2日 |
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1615.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
1618.24 |
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上午94分至下午8點 |
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1618.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
1620.36 |
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8時48分 |
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1620.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
1622.6 |
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地點本案清潔樓101會議室 |
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1623.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
1625 |
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出席委員羅志強委員等14人 |
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1625 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
1627.52 |
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類似委員許中信委員等13人 |
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1627.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
1629.92 |
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類似人員6月29日教育部政務次長 |
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1630.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
1632.28 |
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張廖萬尖率同有關人員 |
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1632.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
1635.08 |
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7月1日運動部部長李洋率同有關人員 |
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1635.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
1637.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
7月2日文化部部長李遠率同有關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
1638.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
1640.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
主席羅昭吉委員評委 |
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1641.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1642.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
6月29日報告事項 |
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1642.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
1645.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
宣讀上次會議室決定意識度確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
1645.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1646.34 |
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討論事項審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
1646.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
1648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
委員蘇欣田等20人擬居國民教育法 |
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1648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
1651.02 |
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第三條條文修正草案等十案 |
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1651.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1654.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
本日會議有羅志強委員等15人 |
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1654.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
1655.09 |
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提出質詢 |
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1655.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1656.53 |
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軍軍教育部政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
1656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1658.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
張廖萬尖及相關人員及其答復說明 |
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1658.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1660.29 |
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另一委員葛如鈞徐信穎 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1660.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1661.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
提出書面質詢決議 |
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1661.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1663.41 |
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一報告及詢答完畢 |
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1663.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1665.69 |
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二對於委員質詢要求提供相關資料 |
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1665.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1667.77 |
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及答復部分請相關機關 |
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1667.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1669.25 |
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儘速以書面答復 |
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1669.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1671.97 |
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三國民教育法部分條文相關修正草案 |
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1671.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1673.77 |
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定期繼續審查 |
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1673.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1675.57 |
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經表決通過提案一項 |
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1675.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1676.97 |
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通過臨時提案一項 |
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1676.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1678.25 |
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7月1日討論事項 |
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1678.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1681.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
繼續審查15年度中央政府總預算案 |
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1681.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1683.89 |
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有關運動部及首署單位預算案等6案 |
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1683.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1684.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
決議 |
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1684.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1687.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
115年度中央政府總預算案有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1687.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1689.49 |
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運動部及首署單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1689.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1691.73 |
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審查環境審查結果如下 |
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1691.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1693.37 |
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稅務部分第二款第1 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1693.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1694.49 |
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189項照列 |
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1694.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1695.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
第3款156 |
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1695.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1697.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
及157項均照列 |
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1697.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
第4款202項照列 |
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1699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1701.37 |
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第7款199 |
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1702.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1704.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
至200項均照列 |
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1704.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
1706.45 |
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稅出部分第18款第1項照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
1706.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
1709.01 |
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本項通過決議128項 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1709.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
1710.25 |
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第2項照列 |
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1710.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
1712.49 |
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本項通過決議48項 |
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1712.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1713.45 |
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第27款 |
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1713.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
1715.33 |
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知鄉市及縣市政府第9項 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1715.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
第1目的及第2目均照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1720.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
215年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
1720.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1722.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
有關運動部主管運動發展基金預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
1722.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
1724.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
審查環境審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1724.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1726.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
運動發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
1726.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1727.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
基金來源基金用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1727.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1729.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
本級短促均照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
1729.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1730.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
節繳公告無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1730.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1733.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
補官預算無類數通過決議25項 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1734.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1736.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
315年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1736.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1738.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
國家運動訓練中心預算案審查環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1738.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
擬具審查報告審 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1739.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1741.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1741.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1743.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
不需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1743.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1746.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
由羅昭級委員廳委補充說明審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
1746.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1748.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
業務總收入業務總支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1748.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
本期剩餘均照列節繳公告無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1751.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1753.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
轉投資計畫無類數固定資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1754.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1756.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
建設改良擴充照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1756.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1757.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
通過決議8項 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1757.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1759.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
415年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1759.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1763.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
國家運動科學中心預算案審查環境審 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1763.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1766 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
擬具審查報告提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1766 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1768.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
不需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1768.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1771.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
由羅昭級委員廳委補充說明審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1771.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1773.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
業務總收入業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1773.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1775.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
本期剩餘均照列固定資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1775.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1778.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
建設改良擴充照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1778.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1781.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
國庫增撥基金而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1781.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1783.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
通過決議13項 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1786.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
114年度及115年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1786.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1788.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
國家運動產業中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1788.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1790.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
發展中心預算案審查環境審 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1790.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1792.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
擬具審查報告提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1793.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1795.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
不需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1795.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1798.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
由羅昭級委員廳委補充說明審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1799.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1801.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
業務總收入業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1801.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1802.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
本期剩餘均照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1802.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
國庫增撥基金而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1807.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1809.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
國家運動產業發展中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1809.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1811.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
15年度預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1811.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1814.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
業務總收入業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1814.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1816.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
本期剩餘均照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1816.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1818.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1818.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1820.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
國庫增撥基金而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1820.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1821.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
通過決議5項 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1821.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1824.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
6對於委員質詢要求提供相關資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1824.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1826.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
或為其答覆部分請相關機關進俗 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1826.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1827.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
以順便答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1827.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1829.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
7在不影響文藝前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1829.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
授權議事責任1 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
115年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1835.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
審查報告及黨團協商之範例整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1835.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1837.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
8115年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1837.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
有關運動部及首署單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1843.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1843.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1844.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
運動部主管部分預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1845.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1847.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
運動發展基金互使單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1848.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
115年度行政法人國家運動訓練中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1851.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1854.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
國家運動科學中心預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1854.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1856.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
114年度及115年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1856.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
國家運動產業發展中心預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1860.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
全部審查完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1860.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
通過臨時提案2項 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1862.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1863.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
7月2日討論事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1863.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1866.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
繼續審查115年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1866.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1869.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
有關文化部及首署單位預算案等五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1869.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
決議115年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1874.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
有關文化部及首署單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1874.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1876.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
審查完整審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1880.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
第二款第196項至201項均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1880.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1885.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
第202項至204項均5類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1885.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1886.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
第205項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1886.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
第206項5類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1892.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
第三款第162項至171項均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1892.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1892.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
第四款 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1893.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1895.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
第208項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1895.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
本項通過決議項 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1897.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1901.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
第209項至218項均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1901.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
第7款 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1904.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
206項至216項均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1904.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
稅出部分第20款第1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1908.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
除第10目 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1908.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1909.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
暫照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1909.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
1912.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
事所屬非營業特種基金審議確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
1912.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
1913.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
在行調整外 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
1913.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
1915.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
簡略第5目第1節 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
1916.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
1918.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
1000萬元請以均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
1918.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
1919.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
本項提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
1920.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
1922.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
5案保留送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
1922.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
1924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
本項通過決議173項 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
1924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
1926.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
第二項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
1926.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
1927.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
本項通過決議25項 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
1927.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
1928.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
第三項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
1928.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
1930.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
本項通過決議13項 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
1930.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
1932.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
第4項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
1932.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
1934.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
本項通過決議3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
1934.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
1935.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
第5項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
1935.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
1936.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
本項通過決議4項 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
1936.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
1938.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
第6項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
1938.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
1939.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
本項通過決議3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
1939.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
1940.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
第7項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
1940.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
1941.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
本項通過決議1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
1941.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
1942.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
第8項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
1942.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
1944.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
本項通過決議2項 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
1944.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
1945.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
第9項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
1945.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
1947.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
本項通過決議4項 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
1947.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
1948.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
第10項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
1948.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
1950.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
本項通過決議1項 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
1950.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
1951.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
第11項照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
1951.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
1952.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
本項通過決議3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
1952.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
1953.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
第27款 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
1953.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
1954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
第11項 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
1954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
1956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
第1幕至第3幕均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
1958.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
1959.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
2015年度中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
1959.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
1960.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
有關文化部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
1960.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
1962.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
國立文化機構作業基金附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
1962.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
1963.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
單位預算審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
1963.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
1965.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
1965.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
1966.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
業務總收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
1966.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
1967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
1967.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
1968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
本期短促均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
1968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
1970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
絕繳公共進而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
1970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
1972.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
轉投資計劃無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
1972.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
1974.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
1975.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
1976.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
國庫增撥基金附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
1976.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
1977.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
照類通過決議2項 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
1977.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
1978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
3 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
1978.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
1980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
2015年度中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
1980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
1981.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
有關文化部主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
1981.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
1982.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
文化發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
1983.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
1985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
單位預算案審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
1985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
1987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
完畢審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
1987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
1988.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
基金來源基金用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
1988.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
1990.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
本期剩餘均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
1990.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
1991.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
絕繳公共進而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
1991.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
1992.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
通過決議項 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
1992.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
1993.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
4 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
1993.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
1995.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
2015年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
1995.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
1996.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
國家表演藝術中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
1996.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
1997.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
預算案審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
1997.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
1998.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
擬具審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
1998.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
1999.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
提請院會公解 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
1999.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2001.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
不需交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2001.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2003.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
院會討論時由羅昭吉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2004.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2007.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
庭委補充說明審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2007.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2007.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2008.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
業務總收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2008.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2009.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2009.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2010.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
本期短促均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2010.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
絕繳公共無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2011.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2013.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
轉投資計畫無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2013.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2015.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2015.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2018.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
國庫增撥基金附屬無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2018.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
通過決議3項 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2021.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
5 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2021.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
2015年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2022.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
國 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2023.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2024.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
文化內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2024.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2025.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
策紀念預算案審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2025.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2026.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
擬具審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2026.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2028.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
提請院會公解 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2028.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2029.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
不需交由黨團協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2029.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2030.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2030.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2033.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
由羅昭吉委員庭委補充說明審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2033.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2033.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2033.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2034.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
業務總收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2034.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2035.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2037.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
本期短促均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2037.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2039.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
絕繳公共進而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2039.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
轉投資計畫無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2043.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2043.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2045.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
國庫增撥基金附屬無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2045.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2046.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
通過決議2項 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2047.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2048.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2048.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2049.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
15年度行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2049.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2052.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2052.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2053.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
擬具審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2053.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2054.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
提請院會公解 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2054.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2056.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
不需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2056.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
由羅昭吉委員庭委補充說明審查結果如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2061.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
業務總收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2061.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2062.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
業務總支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2062.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
本期短促均照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2063.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
絕繳公共進而無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2066.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2067.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
轉投資計畫無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2067.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2069.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
固定資產建設改良擴充照類 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2069.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2071.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
國庫增撥基金附屬無類數 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2071.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
通過決議2項 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2072.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2074.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
7對於委員質詢要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2074.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2075.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
提供資料或會籍答覆部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2075.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2077.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
請相關機關技術以順便答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2077.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2079.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
8在不影響委員前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2079.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2080.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
授權意識人員1 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2080.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2083.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
115年度專案政府總預算案審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2083.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2085.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
與黨團協商作案例整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2085.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2087.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
915年度專案政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2087.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2089.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
有關文化部及首署單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2089.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2092.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2092.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2094.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
文化部主管部分預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2094.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2097.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2097.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
文化發展基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2100.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2103.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
115年度行政法整國家表演藝術中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2103.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2104.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
文化內容策經院 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2104.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2107.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2107.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2108.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
全部審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2108.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2109.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
10本會主審 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2109.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2112.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
中華民國115年度中央政府總預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2112.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2115.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
公務預算及非營業基金預算部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2115.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2117.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
均已審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2117.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2118.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
有關正式被稅出預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2118.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
隨同以上機關被審查結果調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2121.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
你具審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2125.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
韓副財政委員會審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2125.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
需交由黨團協商院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2130.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
由羅昭吉委員聽委補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2130.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2130.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2134.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2136.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
好在場委員未達一絕人數三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2136.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2139.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
議事錄我們稍後再進行確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2139.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
現在本次的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2145 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
議程是邀請教育部部長鄭英耀 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2145 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
衛生福利部政務次長林靜怡 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2151.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
行政院食品安全辦公室主任徐甫 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2151.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2156.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
列席就校園食品安全把關機制 |
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2156.88 |
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2159.96 |
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以及致癌郵事件的因應作為 |
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2159.96 |
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2163.6 |
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進行專題報告並被備詢 |
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2164.46 |
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2166.66 |
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邀請教育部部長鄭英耀 |
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2166.66 |
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2171.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
列席就學生出勤管理及校園秩序 |
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2171.54 |
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2173.62 |
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維護政策的亂象 |
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2173.62 |
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2177.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
檢討改善的措施進行專題報告 |
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2177.62 |
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2178.86 |
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並被質詢 |
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2179.49 |
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2182.13 |
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審查教育部含微修正 |
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2182.79 |
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2189.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘停聘或之前的辦法 |
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2189.55 |
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2191.55 |
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部分條文及公立 |
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2191.55 |
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2196.99 |
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高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法第五條 |
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2196.99 |
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2198.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
第六條之一條文案 |
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2199.95 |
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2206.19 |
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以及審查國民黨黨團擬具教育經費編列與管理法 |
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2206.19 |
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2209.03 |
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第三條條文修正等十四案 |
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2209.03 |
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2211.19 |
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委員羅志祥等十七人之提案 |
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2211.19 |
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2215.55 |
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因吾不復議同意書故不予審查 |
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2215.55 |
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2222.03 |
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審查委員葉元之等十九人擬具國民轉介教育條例草案 |
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2222.03 |
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2227.27 |
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審查委員范雲等十六人擬具學校公參法草案等十十案 |
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2227.31 |
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2230.19 |
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其中教育經費編列與管理法 |
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2230.19 |
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2235.27 |
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相關修正草案及國民轉介教育條例草案 |
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2235.27 |
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2237.75 |
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僅進行詢答 |
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2237.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2241.35 |
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首先介紹在場的委員羅志強委員 |
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2245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2248.47 |
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接著介紹與會的官員教育部部長鄭英耀 |
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2252.25 |
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2254.49 |
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國民級學生教育署署長彭富源 |
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2256.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2258.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
青年發展署署長陳雪玉 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2260.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2263.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
衛生福利部政務事長林靜怡 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2265.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2268.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
行政事實品安全辦公室主任徐甫 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2270.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2273.94 |
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司法院少年級嘉士廷副廳長黃季渝 |
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2276.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2277.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
保護參事汪南軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2279.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2283.51 |
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內政部警政署刑事警察局警政監蔡崑義 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2285.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2290.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
財政部國庫署財務規劃組組長黃曉薇 |
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2293.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2294.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
勞動部勞動力發展署 |
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2295.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2297.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
深特組科長黃靜怡 |
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2299.5 |
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2303.18 |
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環境部化學物質管理署組長林松景 |
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2305.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2308.35 |
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農業部農糧署副署長黃昭欣 |
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2315.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2320.15 |
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國家發展委員會社會發展處專門委員蘇愛娟 |
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2321.95 |
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2325.55 |
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行政院主計總署公務預算處專門委員王謙凱 |
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2327.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2331.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
行政院消費者保護署副署長陳興宏 |
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2333.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2338.22 |
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台中市南區信義國小教師會常務理事唐一國先生 |
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2340.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2341.77 |
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新北市 |
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2342.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2345.57 |
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清水高級中學家長代表楊先生 |
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2347.9 |
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2348.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
謝謝楊爸爸 謝謝 |
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2351.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2356.47 |
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其餘練習的機關代表請參與名單不再逐一介紹並列入公報紀錄 |
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2357.23 |
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2359.95 |
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現在進行提案說明 |
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2361.08 |
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2362.52 |
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請問有委員要提案說明嗎 |
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2364.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2367.03 |
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是不是請羅志祥委員擔任召委 謝謝 |
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2381.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2383.23 |
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請羅庭威委員提案說明 |
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2388.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2392 |
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教育經費編列與管理法第三條條文修正草案 |
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2392 |
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2394.24 |
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今天我們提案說明的很簡單 |
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2394.72 |
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2402.08 |
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主題的這個法案就是希望我們的訴求將國家的教育上面的投資基本門檻 |
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2402.08 |
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2404.8 |
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應該要繼續往上拉一點點 |
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2405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2407.76 |
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從23%調到24% |
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2408 |
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2412 |
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這一%就是要讓弱勢不要被 |
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2413.24 |
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2415.4 |
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缺乎到他們的權益 |
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2415.72 |
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2419.8 |
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甚至我們也不要偏鄉的學校被放生 |
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2419.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2426.6 |
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我們更希望老師有最低限度的專業發展空間不再年年被預算的邊緣化 |
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2427.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
依教育部自己估算提高這一% |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2429.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2432.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
大概每年增加400億的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2433 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2438.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
行政院最近幾年編列的特別條例非常的多 |
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2438.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2441.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
為什麼唯獨輪到教育這400億 |
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2441.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2443.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
就馬上說無力負擔 |
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2443.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2445.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
說穿了政府不是缺錢 |
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2446.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2450.04 |
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就是現階段看到他的優先順序裡 |
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2450.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2452.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
教育被放在最後 |
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2452.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2453.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
但是部長 |
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2454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
也要講給行政院院長卓榮泰聽 |
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2457.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2462.44 |
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憲法徵收條文第十條也有規定教育科學文化資金費 |
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2463.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2466.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
是國民教育經費為最優先的 |
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2467.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2468.4 |
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編列考量 |
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2468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2469.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
在現在的局勢 |
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2470.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2475.2 |
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我們更希望少子化能夠讓孩子都能夠更關鍵的獲得資源 |
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2475.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2480.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
產業的轉型AI的浪潮又把技能門檻一直往上推 |
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2480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2484.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
所以我們還用過去那種能撐就好的教育思維 |
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2484.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2485.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
來投資教育的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2486 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2488.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
就是把國家的競爭力 |
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2488.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2490.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
放任原地踏步 |
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2490.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2493.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
就是放任競爭力往下拉 |
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2493.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2495.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
台灣怎麼對待教育 |
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2495.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2498.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
世界就怎麼看待台灣的評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2498.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2499.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
台灣的未來 |
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2499.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2500.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
所以預算可以省 |
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2501.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
教育不能省 |
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2502.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2504.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
孩子的未來不能夠打折 |
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2504.16 |
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2505.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
這是我今天提案說明 |
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2505.6 |
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2506.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2518.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2519.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
好 提案說明完畢 |
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2520.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2522.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
接著我們有請 |
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2522.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
本次會議才一併報告 |
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2526.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
綜合詢答 |
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2527.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2529.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
現在進行報告 |
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2530.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2531.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
有請正義藥部長報告 |
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2531.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2533.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
時間8分鐘 |
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2541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2543.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
主席各位委員女士先生大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2544.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2545.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
今天要練習 |
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2545.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2550.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
貴委員會就校園食品安全把關機制及致癌郵件 |
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2552.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
應應作為等五項進行專題報告 |
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2554.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
進行各位委員引以指正 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2556.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
以立各項重要教育政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2559.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
以法制之規劃 |
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2559.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2562.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
以執行得以日益進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2566 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
首先針對校園食品把關及學生管理政策 |
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2566.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2567.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
分別說明如下 |
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2568.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2573.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
一有關校園食品安全把關機制及致癌郵事件應應作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2577.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
食品安全攸關學生健康與校園安全 |
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2578.01 |
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2581.21 |
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是本部推動校園午餐政策的重要工作 |
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2581.61 |
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2585.05 |
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本部除配合食品安全衛生主管機關 |
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2585.05 |
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2587.29 |
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辦理食安事件應變外 |
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2587.53 |
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2590.73 |
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平時及透過法規企業管理 |
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2591.21 |
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2592.25 |
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資訊公開 |
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2592.49 |
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2596.01 |
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跨部會合作及三級管理機制 |
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2596.09 |
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2600.17 |
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確保進入校園食品符合安全規劃 |
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2600.17 |
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2603.13 |
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以確保學生飲食安全 |
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2605.28 |
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2608.16 |
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衛福部食品食安署公佈 |
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2609.46 |
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2612.58 |
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疑涉致癌物污染有品事件 |
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2612.58 |
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2614.1 |
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本部於第一時間 |
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2614.1 |
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2616.66 |
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以校園食品事件處理作業標準 |
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2616.66 |
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2618.5 |
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啟動應變機制 |
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2618.5 |
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2620.66 |
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透過校園食材登錄平台 |
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2620.66 |
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2623.62 |
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快速比對校園使用情形 |
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2624.66 |
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2628.18 |
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並督導地方政府及學校立即清查 |
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2628.18 |
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2630.98 |
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預防性下降及持續追蹤 |
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2630.98 |
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2633.3 |
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全力降低食品安全風險 |
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2633.3 |
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2634.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
維護學生健康 |
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2635.88 |
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2640.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
有關學生出缺勤管理及校園秩序維護政策 |
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2640.6 |
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2641.56 |
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亂象前逃 |
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2642.46 |
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2643.74 |
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以改善措施 |
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2643.74 |
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2646.46 |
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依國民小學及國民中學學生 |
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2646.46 |
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2648.94 |
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講成準則第十二條規定 |
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2648.94 |
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2655.42 |
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學生單純出缺席狀況不得加以懲處 |
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2655.42 |
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2658.3 |
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且依國民小學及國民中學學生 |
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2659.03 |
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2661.43 |
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中學學生學習貧良辦法 |
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2661.43 |
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2663.75 |
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學生出缺勤情形 |
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2663.75 |
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2666.95 |
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業已納入學習貧良計算 |
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2666.95 |
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2670.71 |
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缺礦課情形嚴重將影響畢業資格 |
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2670.71 |
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2674.55 |
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再以懲處將導致重誤處分 |
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2674.55 |
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2678.39 |
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基於學生缺席礦課因素複雜多元 |
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2678.39 |
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2680.71 |
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學校應依學生行為樣態 |
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2680.71 |
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2683.75 |
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採取適當輔導以管教措施 |
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2683.75 |
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2686.95 |
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本部支持教師合理管教 |
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2687.03 |
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2691.99 |
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未來將持續強化專業分工協作管教措施 |
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2691.99 |
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2697.27 |
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也已決定增列經費補助學校辦理高關懷課程 |
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2697.27 |
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2699.67 |
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提供輔導管教資源 |
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2699.67 |
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2702.55 |
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後續將收集教育現場實務意見 |
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2702.55 |
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2705.03 |
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優化精進管教措施 |
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2705.03 |
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2709.83 |
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其次在相關重要法案審查以精進策略方面 |
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2709.83 |
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2712.07 |
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本部將參與大會 |
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2712.07 |
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2714.23 |
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建議積極推進各項工作 |
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2714.23 |
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2715.43 |
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說明如下 |
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2716.38 |
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2719.98 |
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推動校事會議兩法 |
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2719.98 |
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2723.9 |
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修正高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘 |
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2723.9 |
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2725.9 |
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停聘或支援辦法 |
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2725.9 |
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2731.18 |
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部分條文及公立高級中等以下學校教師 |
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2731.18 |
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2735.82 |
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成績考核辦法第五條第六條之一條文案 |
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2736.9 |
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2738.9 |
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新制實施的約半年 |
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2740.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2744.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
一五年五月三十一日指全級案件313案 |
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2744.86 |
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2747.82 |
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其中進入校事會議調查70案 |
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2747.82 |
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2749.34 |
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佔22% |
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2749.34 |
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2753.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
修法前期間一四年一月至五月 |
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2753.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2755.74 |
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全級案件586案 |
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2755.74 |
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2758.86 |
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進入校事會議調查484案 |
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2758.86 |
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2760.38 |
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佔82% |
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2760.38 |
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2762.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
分流為考核案件 |
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2762.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2763.82 |
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136案 |
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2763.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2765.82 |
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佔43% |
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2765.82 |
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2767.18 |
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不受理案件 |
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2767.26 |
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2771.34 |
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比例由原來18%提高至35% |
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2771.34 |
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2775.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
透過受理判斷與案件分流機制 |
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2775.34 |
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2778.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
進入校事會議調查案件明顯降低 |
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2778.94 |
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2782.46 |
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顯示制度已逐步發揮分流效果 |
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2782.46 |
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2784.54 |
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本部同步推動 |
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2784.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2787.5 |
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券前法律協助支持 |
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2788.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2790.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
強化家庭交易 |
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2790.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2792.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
維護合理管教權 |
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2793.13 |
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2796.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
完善校園職業安全機制 |
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2796.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2798.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
等四大支持配套 |
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2798.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
透過建立教師諮商與法律支持體系 |
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2802.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2805.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
強化家庭交易及親師合作 |
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2805.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2807.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
保障教師合理管教權益 |
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2807.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2810.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
並完善校園職業安全保障機制 |
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2810.89 |
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2814.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
兼顧學生受教權與教師工作權 |
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2814.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2819.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
全力營造友善安心且支持性的教育環境 |
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2821.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2823.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
有關教育經費編列以管理法 |
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2823.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2825.66 |
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不含條文修正草案 |
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2826.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2831.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
大院審議國民黨黨團委員林德虎等提案版本共15案 |
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2831.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2833.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
其中教育經費編列以管理法 |
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2833.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2835.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
修正草案第三條 |
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2835.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2836.31 |
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第三條之二 |
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2836.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2837.83 |
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第十條第十三條 |
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2837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2842.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
包括調高各級政府教育經費預算和計資下限比例 |
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2842.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
明定中央教育經費因分攤數而固定比例 |
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2847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2852.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
增列水電費及國產可塑元食材 |
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2852.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2857.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
不進入各級政府教育經費下限額度 |
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2857.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2859.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
強化教育經費籌編責任 |
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2859.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2863.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
及設立中央教育發展基金等修正建議 |
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2863.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2867.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
各項詳細內容請參閱書面報告 |
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2867.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
大院近年多次修法 |
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2870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2871.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
調高教育經費 |
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2871.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2873.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
預算法定下限 |
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2873.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2877.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
至全國公部門教育經費逐年穩定增加 |
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2877.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2880.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
有助於持續提升我國教育品質 |
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2880.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2882.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
本部競表卸成 |
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2882.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2884.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
為財化法修法後 |
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2884.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2886.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
大幅削減中央可應用制裁員 |
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2886.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2891.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
他明定基準以匡列中央因分攤之教育經費 |
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2891.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2895.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
中央財政恐造成排擠效應 |
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2895.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2896.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
影響 |
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2896.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2899.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
各部會政策之推動 |
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2899.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2900.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
教育經費之編列 |
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2900.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2903.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
本應在落實財政穩健 |
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2903.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2905.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
以公平分配的前提下 |
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2905.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2909.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
使能促進教育資源的永續健全發展 |
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2909.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2912.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
原仁於就政府整體資源配置 |
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2912.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
及各地方政府財政狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2914.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
予以考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2916.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
日後本部予將持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2921.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
就建立中央與地方教育經費銜接機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2921.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2923.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
落實教育經費之編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2923.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2925.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
強化監督及考核機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2925.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2928.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
確保教育經費合理分攤 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2928.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
2930.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
等事項努力精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
2930.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
2933.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
敬請各位委員及各界先進 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
2933.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
2936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
持續給予本部支持與指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
2936.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
2936.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
三 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
2936.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
2939.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
凝聚國民轉介教育條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
2939.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
2942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
本部針對葉燕姿委員等19人凝聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
2942.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
2944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
國民轉介教育條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
2944.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
2945.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
聲表謝存 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
2946.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
2949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
少年事件處理法108年修正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
2949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
2951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
落實兒童權力公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
2951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
2955.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
CRC強調行政先行 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
2955.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
2957.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
及去標準化 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
2957.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
2961.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
由教育、司法、社政、系統分工合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
2961.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
2963.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
並以少年偏差行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
2963.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
2965.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
預防及輔導辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
2965.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
2967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
由學校主動提供輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
2967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
2972.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
召開評估會議及訂定個別化輔導計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
2972.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
2975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
本部於學生輔導法督導各級學校建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
2975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
2977.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
三級輔導制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
2977.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
2980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
針對偏差行為、重大違規 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
2980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
2982.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
及適應困難學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
2982.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
2985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
結合學生輔導諮商中心、社政等 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
2985.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
2988.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
跨專業資源提供協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
2988.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
2990.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
並透過高光海課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
2990.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
2992.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
多元化中介教育措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
2992.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
2994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
及穩定就學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
2994.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
2996.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
協助學生持續就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
2996.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3000.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
113年修訂學生輔導法後 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3000.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3004.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
持續擴增專任輔導老師、專業輔導人員編制 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3004.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3008.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
及輔助協務人員強化校園輔導量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3008.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3012.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
最後,感謝各位委員關注校園食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3012.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3015.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
學生輔導管教、不適任教師處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3015.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3018.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
以及各項教育法制建置 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3018.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
本部將持續攜手 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3020.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3023.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
各地方政府與相關團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3023.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3025.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
審慎評估各方意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3025.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3027.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
落實推動各項政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3027.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3031.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
提供符合教師、家長及學生需求之優質教育環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3031.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
以上,謝謝各位委員進行指測 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3034.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3036.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
好,謝謝部長的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3037.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3040.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
請衛生福利部林慶儀次長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3040.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3041.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
報告時間5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3052.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
主席各位委員、女士、先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3052.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3056.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
今天大院第11屆第五會期教育及文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3056.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3058.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
召開第19次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3058.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3062.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
本部誠邀列席教校園食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3062.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
把關機制及致癌油事件因應作為提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3067.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
進行委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3067.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3072.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
一、大豆油本扁皮超標事件處理情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3072.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3076.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
食料屬於2026年6月30日接獲中聯油脂通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3076.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3079.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
其生產之大豆沙拉油自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3079.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3084.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
本扁皮8.1ppb超過法定限量2.0ppb |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3084.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3090.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
該批油品約1300公噸供應泰山福壽及福茂等業者使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3090.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3097.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
後續7月7日泰山自主檢驗調和油產品亦發現本扁皮超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3097.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3100.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
經追查後確認原料來源亦來自中聯公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3100.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3106.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
本部6月30日接獲通報後立刻啟動跨機關應變機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3106.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3108.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
要求中聯公司停止出貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3108.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3110.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
追查產品流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3110.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3114.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
並且辦理預防性下架回收及擴大抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3114.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3116.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
並依風險評估滾動調整管制措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3116.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3120.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
防止可能受影響的產品持續流通 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3120.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3121.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
事件處理期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3121.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
食藥署陸續召開專家學者食品業者及地方衛生局會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3129.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
檢視事件可能之原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3129.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3135.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
並要求業者加強產品檢驗原料管理及製程管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3135.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3138.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
並研議受影響產品下架回收範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3138.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3141.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
同時要求業者提供產品流向及退貨資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3141.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3145.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
以強化風險管理及掌握事件處理進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3146.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3148.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
食藥署已啟動擴大抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3148.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3153.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
針對相關食用油脂業者及場內產品加速檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3153.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3155.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
以確認產品安全性 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3155.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3157.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
並持續透過新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3157.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
記者會及官網公佈事件處理進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3160.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3161.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
以及產品流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3161.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3164.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
下架回收及抽驗結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3164.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3167.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
並於官網設置專區更新相關資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3167.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3169.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
提供民眾查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3169.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3171.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
確保資訊流通透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3171.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3174.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
在校園食品安全方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3177.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
食藥署每日公佈受影響產品及流向資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3177.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3180.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
供教育部運用校園食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3180.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3182.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
比對校園工餐資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3182.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3185.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
掌握疑似食用情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3185.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3187.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
並督導地方政府及學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3187.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3189.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
幼兒園全面清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3189.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3190.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
如有疑慮及停止使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3190.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3192.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
並預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3192.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3194.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
共同把關學生飲食安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3195.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
協調下游廠商從寬從優從速從減 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3199.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3200.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
辦理退貨機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3200.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3203.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
並協助校保團體進行團體訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3203.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3206.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
相關訴訟費用得由食品安全保護基金指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3207.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3209.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
以保障消費者權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3209.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3214.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
本案一食安法等規定依法裁處相關業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3214.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3218.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
目前本部裁處中聯公司1億6520萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3218.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3222.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
地方政府裁處福壽300萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3222.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3223.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
福茂300萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3223.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3226.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
泰山600萬元及南橋300萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3226.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
同時已請司法機關偵辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3233.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
由檢調食藥署及地方政府共同調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3233.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3235.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
釐清事件原因及責任歸屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3235.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3238.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
如查有違法情勢將依法就辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3239.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3241.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
二精進作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3241.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3242.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
本部將以本案為鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3242.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3245.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
持續精進食品安全管理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3246.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3248.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
一完善自主通報機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3248.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3250.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
明確通報時機與流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3250.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3253.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
強化異常事件及時通報及處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3253.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3255.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
二提升檢驗頻率及項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3255.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3257.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
針對高風險原料及產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3257.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3260.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
加強自主檢驗強化品質管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3260.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3263.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
三強化HACCP管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3263.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3265.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
落實食品安全管制系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3265.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3268.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
強化關鍵管制及風險管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3268.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3271.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
四提高查核及抽驗強度 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3271.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3274.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
加強高風險業者稽查抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3274.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3276.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
落實源頭管理及市場監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3276.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3279.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
五精進產品下架回收機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3283.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
檢討106年食品安全諮議會 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3283.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3285.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
訂定之食品違規案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3285.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3287.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
產品下架回收封存 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3287.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
銷毀階層之處理原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3289.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3292.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
以提升食品安全應變的效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3294.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
本部秉持資訊透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3297.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
風險管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3297.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3299.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
依法行政的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3299.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
迅速完成產品追查 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3302.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3305.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
擴大抽驗及依法究責等工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3305.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3309.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
未來本部將持續精進食品安全管理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3309.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3311.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
完善食品安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3311.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3314.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
完善食品安全事件通報機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3314.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3316.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
強化業者自主檢驗監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3316.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3319.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
落實實用油脂HACCP管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3320.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
加強政府查驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3325.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
查核抽驗及精進下架回收機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3325.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3327.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
全面提升食品安全管理效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3327.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
與政府監督量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
防範食品安全風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3331.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3332.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
守護國人健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3332.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3335.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
本部城大院各委員之指教及監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3335.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
在此進製謝陳 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3337.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3339.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
並其各位委員繼續予以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3339.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3339.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3341.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3343.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
好 謝謝林次長的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3344.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3347.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
現在有請行政院食品安全辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3347.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3348.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
徐福主任報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3350.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3351.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
時間四分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3356.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3359.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
主席 各位委員女士先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3359.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3362.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
今天桂園教育及文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3362.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3366.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
邀請就校園食品安全把關機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3366.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3368.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
及致癌油事件因應作為提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3368.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3370.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
敬請各位委員不吝指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3370.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3372.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
依校園食品把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3372.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3375.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
針對中聯公司供應部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3375.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3377.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
大豆沙拉有檢出 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3378.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3380.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
本填筆不符合規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3380.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3384.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
一案食安辦在事件發生後 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3384.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3386.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
立即督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3386.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3389.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
衛福部啟動應變機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3389.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3391.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
協調掌握經濟部教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3391.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3392.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
國防部法務部等相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3394.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3395.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
機關辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3395.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3398.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
那大概處理分成三階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3398.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3401.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
第一個階段大概在7月3日 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3401.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3404 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
衛福部公布下架名單的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3404 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
食安辦及主動聯繫教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3408.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
國教署 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3408.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3411.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
請運用校園食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3411.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3412.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
以 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3412.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3417.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
掌握校園疑似使用受影響產品情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3419.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3424.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
辦理足效確認督導學校幼兒園及團散業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3424.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3427.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
全面盤頂有品及相關製品使用情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3427.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3429.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
並立即下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3429.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3431.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
問題有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3431.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3435.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
那第二個階段是在大概7月5日到7月6日 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3435.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3441.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
開始公布受影響及下游的流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3441.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3443.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
之後同樣請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3443.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3446.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
國教署各個 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3446.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3449.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
縣市完成第一波的校園的清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3449.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3452.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
確認受影響的縣市以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3452.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3453.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
校數 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3453.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3455.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
截至目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3455.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3456.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3456.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3459.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
疑似使用受影響產品範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3459.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3461.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
具有20個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3461.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3465.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
623所學校以及258所幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3465.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3467.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
都已經立即停止使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3467.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3469.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3469.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
預防性的下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3470.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
措施確保學生安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3472.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
第三個階段是在上禮拜四7月9日 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3477.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3478.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
擴大這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3478.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3480.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3480.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3481.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
那所 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3481.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3483.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
實施的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3483.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3485.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
方式跟前面相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3485.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3487.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
持續聯繫確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3489.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3491.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
最新辦理情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3491.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3492.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3492.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3496.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
食安辦大概在7月7日的時候就跟高檢署 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3496.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3498.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
協同召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3498.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
有品質來物超標事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3503.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
查辦暨食品安全專案會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3503.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3506.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
啟動民生犯罪聯繫平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3506.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3509.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
建立中央與地方行政與檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3509.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3510.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
之間的聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3512.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3516.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
那在7月7日8日9日 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3516.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3518.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
在這個城市中 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3519.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
政委召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3525.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
相關的跨部會的這些聯繫事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3525.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
工作包含有跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3530 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
豆腐飼料穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3530 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3532 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
替代方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3532 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3534 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
飼料跟動物安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3534 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3536.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
有品跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3536.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3538 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
市售供應量 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3538 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3539.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3539.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3540 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3540 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3542.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
還有可能涉及的這個精進措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3546.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3549.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
校園的食安處理不法行為調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3549.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3550.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3550.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3552.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
消費者提起團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3552.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3553.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3554.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3554.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3557.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
持有品消費者下游通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3557.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
退換貨的事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3561.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
本件事因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3561.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
錯違大概有幾項 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3564.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3564.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3566.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
後續依照檢驗結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3566.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3567.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
擴大預防性下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3567.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3569.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
第二中央地方合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3569.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3571.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
協助消費者團體訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3571.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3572.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
第三 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3572.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3574.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
協請廠商從寬認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3574.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3576.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
重塑辦理消費者退貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3576.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3577.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
第四 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3577.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
徹查問題原因停工沒有期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3579.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3580.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
第五 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3580.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3582.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
啟動食安法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3582.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3584.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
杜絕不效業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3584.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3586.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
四 結語食安辦持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3586.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
協調督導衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3591.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
農業部經濟部教育部等各全責 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3591.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
機關推動食品安全管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3595.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
確保食品供應鏈的每一個環節 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3595.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3597.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
均符合衛生安全標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3597.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3599.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
食安資訊更透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3600.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3602.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
讓國人吃得安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3602.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3603.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3606.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3607.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
好 謝謝徐主任報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3607.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3609.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3611.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
我們現在先來處理義式路 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3611.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3614.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
上次會義式路有無錯誤跟遺漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3618.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3620.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
好 沒用 義式路確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3622.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3623.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
西域提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3623.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
機關代表除書面外 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3624.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3626.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
有無口頭補充報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3628.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3629.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
機關代表報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3629.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3631.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
相關書面資料請各位參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3631.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3632.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3633.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3634.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
現在進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3634.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
每位出席的委員質詢10分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3637.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
必要時延長2分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3639.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3642.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
練習的委員質詢的時間是5分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3642.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3645.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
發言登記截止時間為上午10點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3646.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3648.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
發言委員如有臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3648.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3651.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
請於4點半之前提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3651.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3655.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
我們與法案審查完畢以後再行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3657.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3662.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
出立提案時若提案委員均連署委員不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3662.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3665.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
我們照晚例不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3665.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3668.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
首先請登記第一位羅志祥委員質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3687.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3690.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
有請曾一耀部長跟林建宜次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3690.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3691.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3692.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3693.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3699.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3700.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3701.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3703.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
我想先請教次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3704.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3708.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
食用油品出現一級自癌物 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3709.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3712.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
本篇皮嚴重超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3713.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
那變成食安風暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
我看到連執政黨的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3717.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3720.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
都痛批衛福部食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3721.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3723.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
說要追究行政疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3723.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3726.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
然後認為你們的危機處理慢半拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3726.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3728.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3728.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3730.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
針對執政黨立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3730.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3732.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
這樣的一個質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3732.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3734.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
我想請問我們的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3734.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3736.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
你覺得衛福部有行政疏失嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3736.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3738.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3738.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3740.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
謝謝委員給我們這個時間說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3740.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3743.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
因為我們是6月30收到中聯通知堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3743.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3745.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3745.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3747.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
7月1號進行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3747.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3749.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
那制度上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3750.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3752.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
你不需要把報告念到 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3752.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3754.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
報告我看完 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3754.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3756.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
因為我們6月30接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3756.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3758.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
我直接做一塊結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3758.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3760.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
你認為沒有行政疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3760.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3762.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
剛剛提到的後續如何在廠商這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3762.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3764.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
連劉建國都要徹查行政疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3764.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3766.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
大家不要講不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3766.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3768.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
後續在廠商這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3768.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3770.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
他們什麼時候的通報程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3770.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3772.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
這邊的精進這個部分一定要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3772.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3774.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
人民的食安吞下肚 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3775.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3777.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
你以為你們執政黨立委都看不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3777.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3779.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
是幫劉建國爆區 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3779.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3781.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
來時間暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3781.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3783.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
請官員針對委員質詢的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3783.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3785.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
直接回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3785.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3787.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
麥克風檢查一下有沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3787.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3789.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
聲音怪怪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3787.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3789.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
請繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3788.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3790.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
我再重述問你一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3791.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3793.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
劉建國說要徹查行政疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3793.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3795.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
你認為你有行政疏失嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3795.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3797.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
我們會尊重委員這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3797.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3799.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
徹查 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3799.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
所以你到現在認為沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3801.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3803.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
委員你們要查我們就尊重委員的查 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3805.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3807.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
整篇的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3807.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3809.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
也完全沒有在追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3809.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3811.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
在檢討你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3811.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
自己衛福部的責任我看過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3813.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3815.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
委員我們6月30日 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3815.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3817.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
接到中聯通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3817.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3819.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
廠商發現問題之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3819.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
不要再跟我繼續倒帶了 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3821.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3823.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
我要繼續問問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3823.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3825.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3825.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3827.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
你部長自欠了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3827.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3829.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
道歉了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3829.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3831.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
我們對於這件事情我們當然自欠 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3831.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3833.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
因為它影響到消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3831.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3833.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
沒有行政疏失需要道歉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
來我告訴你連部長本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
都檢討誠意 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3841.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
公開道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3841.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3843.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
你在這邊你到底在嗷什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3845.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3847.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
民眾期待政府就是一個嚴格的把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3847.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3849.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
我們來看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3849.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3851.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
我要問你請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3852.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3854.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
請問現在有問題的遊品總量到底是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3858.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3860.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
現在我們在中聯這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3860.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3862.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
我們接獲的以及後續在 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3862.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3864.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
7月12日我們又 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3864.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3866.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
接到一批他們的通知所以目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3866.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3868.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
檢驗從4月份到6月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3868.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3870.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
中聯這邊檢驗到有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3870.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3872.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
有5批遊品但是我們4月到 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3872.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3874.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
5批 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3874.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3876.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
但是我們4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3876.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3878.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
我們4月到6月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3878.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3880.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
現在全部預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3880.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3882.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3882.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3884.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3884.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3886.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
第三遍多少量 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3886.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3888.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
預防性下架總共 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3888.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3890.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
2000 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3889.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3891.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
不好意思我要請媒體朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3891.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3893.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
跟所有的我們台灣民眾看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3893.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3895.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
這就是為福不次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3896.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3898.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
我們請 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3898.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3900.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
就請 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3900.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3902.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
我問你多少量 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3902.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3904.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
我繼續把報告再念一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3904.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3906.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
現在我們預防性下架的 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3906.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3908.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
包含預防性下架的 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3908.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3910.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
所有跟中聯有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3910.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3912.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
總共是27532.7公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3912.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3914.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
非常謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3914.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3916.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
您啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3917.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3919.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
光一個27000噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3920.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3922.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
我就要問個兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3923.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3925.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
沒關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3925.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3927.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
你要拖時間後面還有別的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3929.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3931.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
吵 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3930.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3932.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
為福不7月對外宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3932.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3934.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
到現在兩週 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3935.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3937.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
從1300噸變成2600噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3937.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3939.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
現在變成你口中27000噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3939.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3941.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3941.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3943.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
還會更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3943.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
目前在中聯我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3945.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3947.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
你預防性下架就可能有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3947.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3949.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
好像很了不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3949.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3951.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3951.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3953.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
總共27532 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3953.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3955.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
請問還會更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3955.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3957.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
目前我們的檢驗到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3957.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3959.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
沒有更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3959.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3961.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3961.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3963.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
從1300爆增到2600 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3963.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3965.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
現在變成可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3965.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3967.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
預防性下架27000噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3968.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3970.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
我告訴你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3970.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3972.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
全國民眾看著 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3972.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3974.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
食藥署這種慢半拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3974.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3976.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
荒腔走板的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3976.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3978.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
越查越多越查越離譜 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3978 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3980 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
來再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3979.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3981.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3981.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
業者的部分當然進入司法調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3985.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3984.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3986.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
我繼續問行政責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3986.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
行政院衛福部跟食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3988.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
有受到任何處分嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3990.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
有任何行政調查追溯政治責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3992.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3994.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
管理責任跟決策責任嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3994.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3996.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3996.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3998.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
目前為止有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3998.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
4000.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
你是問行政院還是問 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
4000.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
4002.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
行政院上級長官 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
4002.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
4004.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
如果行政的數字他要啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
4004.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
4006.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
我們現在持續都跟長官進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
4006.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
4008.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
今天早上行政院的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
4008.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
4010.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
還在跟長官報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
4010.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
4012.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
行政院開始啟動行政調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
4012.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
4014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
針對你們行政數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
4014.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
4016.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
我們開始啟動行政調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
4016.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
4018.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
這個委員你問我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
4018.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
4020.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
衛福部有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
4019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
4023.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
我們目前正在全力的把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
4023.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
4025.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
目前的食安狀況處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
4025.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
4027.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
讓民眾可以安心擁有 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
4027.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
4029.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
也沒進行行政數字調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
4030.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
4032.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
現在對於這些遊場我們進行的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
4032.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
4034.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
司法上的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
4034.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
4036.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
我告訴你不要講別的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
4036.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
4038.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
我幫劉建博報區啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
4037.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4039.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
講的是白幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4039.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4041.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
講的是白幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4041.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4043.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4043.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4045.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
結論很簡單又清楚又明白嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4046.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4048.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
你們並沒有負責任的意思啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4048.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4050.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
中央政府顯然認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4050.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4052.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
即便衛福部是食安法主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4054.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
就算現在民怨沸騰 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4056.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4058.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
又如何你奈我何啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4059.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4061.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
我們現在預防性下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4061.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
只要今天回答的太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
跟市長你這回答太多一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4067.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
報告唸一唸就結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4067.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
我們現在對於中聯這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4071.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
我們懷疑他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4071.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4073.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
除了預防性下降之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4073.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4075.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
在他能夠符合標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4075.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4077.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
我們不要讓他繼續宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4077.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4079.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
你這個報告連2.7萬都不敢寫進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4079.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4081.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
你一料都問了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4082.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4084.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
來 我要告訴市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4084.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4086.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
中央的紫外線 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4086.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4088.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
蔬食在哪裡 我來告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4088.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
4月業者自主查出問題之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4090.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4092.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
至少經歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4092.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4094.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
4次業者查驗鈔票 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4095.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4097.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
到6月底中央才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4097.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4099.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
你們結果是7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4099.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4101.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
只要求問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4101.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4103.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
原油跟分裝比下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4104.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4106.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
第二層產品是不處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4106.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4108.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
數百個加下游名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4108.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4110.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
不公開 這是我們第一時間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4110.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4112.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
危機處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4112.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4114.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
那是依照106年的食品的下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4114.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4116.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
來來來 所以剛剛報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4116.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4118.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
你的理由很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4118.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4120.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
來 我只告訴你 事實發生如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4120.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4122.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
民眾去公評嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4122.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4124.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
7月4號開始轉彎 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4124.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4126.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
擴大下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4126.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4128.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
然後就端出一個油製品成分 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4128.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4130.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
超過20%者需下降的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4130.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4132.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
到7月7號 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4132.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4134.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
再度大轉彎 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4134.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4136.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
全數預防性下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4137.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4139.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
我就光看你們今天通報後的決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4139.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4141.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
數天數遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4141.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4143.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
完全看著輿論風向走嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4143.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4145.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
先拖到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4145.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4147.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
夾高擠到什麼程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4147.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4149.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
拖不下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4149.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4151.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
拖不下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4153.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
我想請問 食安等不等同國安啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4156.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
各式各樣的都是國安 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4158.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4160.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4159.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4161.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
本國人民的生命安全啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4162.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
當然是我們家的大問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4166.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
結果 你們用這種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4166.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4168.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
來去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4169.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4171.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
買不買一瓶我來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4171.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4173.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
讓你們執政黨立委自己講 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4174.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4176.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
讓今天全國民眾來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4178.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4180.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
來 接下來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4180.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4182.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
我要請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4181.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4183.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4182.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4184.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4184.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
目前掌握的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4186.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
獨有流進學校數量是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4188.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
我們應應措施有完備嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4190.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4192.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4192.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4194.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
我們確實在7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4194.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4196.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
收到這樣一個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4196.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
馬上這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4198.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4200.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
國教署就從 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4200.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4202.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
我們的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4202.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4204.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
來 我更精確的問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4204.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4206.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
第一天馬上就收集到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4206.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4208.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
有1380所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4208.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4210.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
是有用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4210.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4212.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
中年這三家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4212.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
一個流品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4214.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4216.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4216.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4218.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
我們就請各地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4218.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
縣市政府開始教育局去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4220.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4222.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
查 那麼查的時候第一批 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4222.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4224.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
7月7號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4224.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4226.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
我們大概發現到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4226.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4228.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
有這五個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4228.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
有228個學校是有使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4230.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4232.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
全部下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4232.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4234.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
在這第一波 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4234.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4236.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
然後第二波到7月7號又公布第二波的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4236.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
我們這個7月9號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4238.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4240.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
再公布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4240.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4242.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
7月7號是232 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4242.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4244.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
的這個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4244.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4246.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
7月9號440個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4246.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4248.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
我們根據這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4248.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4250.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
又馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4250.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4252.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4253.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4255.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
去馬市長看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4257 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4259 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
至少願意回答問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4259.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
但是我要拜託今天部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4261.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4263.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
還有後面的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4264.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4266.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
你就知道今天食安問題有多大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4267.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4269.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
上千所學校也受牽連 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4270.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4272.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
教育部不是食安法主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4273.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4275.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
但是有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4275.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4277.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
為今天食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4277.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4279.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
衛福部把關不嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4279.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4281.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
今天已經竄到校園來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4281.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4283.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
部長你們擔保今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4283.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4285.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
我們學校的校園學生的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4285.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4287.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
不會受這個食油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4287.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4289.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
的安全問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4289.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4291.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
所波及影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4291.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4293.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
跟我們報告我們建立這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4293.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4295.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
確實每一天的一個食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4295.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4297.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
都透明公開而且要上網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4297.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4299.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
繼續努力啦謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4299.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4301.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
謝謝謝謝委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4301.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4303.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
我想請教你下一個問題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4303.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4305.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
這會求到教文委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4305.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4307.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
我其實一直在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4307.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4309.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
我們選區的學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4309.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4311.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
實際的訪談跟所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4311.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4313.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
那個情意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4313.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4315.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
過去有跟部長反映過教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4315.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4317.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4317.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4319.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
也有很多的校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4319.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4321.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
跟我反映有行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4321.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4323.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
大逃亡的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4323.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4325.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
行政業務越來越多排擠教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4325.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4327.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
心力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4327.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4329.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
也讓很多的老師不敢踏入教職 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4329.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4331.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
甚至許多學校連主任職都找不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4331.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4333.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
那我知道教育部有提出一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4333.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4335.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
支持增補行政能力的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4335.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4337.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
包括國中有增製學務能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4337.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4339.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
其他層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4339.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4341.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
也有類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4341.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4343.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
那我肯定教育部的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4343.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4345.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
但是我這邊有一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4345.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4347.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
我希望政府有意願來幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4347.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4349.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
但應該要真正落實政策的美意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4349.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4351.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
我遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4351.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4353.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
有些國中校長有這樣建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4353.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4355.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
他說國中美校是增製 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4355.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4357.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
一位人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4357.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4359.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
但實際上教育現場的行政能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4359.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4361.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
還是非常缺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4361.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4363.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
而且因為每個學校的學生人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4363.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4365.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
事情繁雜度不一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4365.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4367.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
全部所有學校都是以一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4367.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4369.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
來去編配 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4369.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4371.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
那對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4371.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4373.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
就是學生數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4373.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4375.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
校園規模比較大的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4375.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4377.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
他們就人力緊缺的問題比較嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4377.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4379.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
所以他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4379.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4381.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
認為說可不可以調整以學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4381.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4383.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
人數為基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4383.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4385.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
那學生數越多的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4385.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4387.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
可以有越多的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4387.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4389.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
比方說在學校的護理師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4389.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4391.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
也是用學生人數來評估的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4391.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4393.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
那我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4393.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4395.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
也是校長們的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4395.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4397.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
說綜合學校空間標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4397.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4399.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
跟教育現場的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4399.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4401.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
是否可以調整以實體班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4401.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4403.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
為計算標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4403.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4405.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
36班含以下的補一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4405.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4407.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
37班以上就可以有兩人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4407.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4409.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
我不知道部長可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4409.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4411.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
幫忙我們這些學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4411.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4413.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
教育現場的人力不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4413.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4415.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
可以這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4415.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4417.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
後盾跟幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4417.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4419.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
謝謝委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4419.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4421.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
這個教育品質包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4421.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4423.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
減少我們老師的一個行政壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4423.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4425.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
我想確實現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4425.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4427.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
的挑戰是比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4427.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4429.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
也跟委員報告去年我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4429.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4431.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
協務人力會增加是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4431.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4433.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
沒有我進來以後在年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4433.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4435.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
的預算並沒有編列這個我們內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4435.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4437.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
調整但是委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4437.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4439.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
我先謝謝你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4439.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4441.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
我說增加一個有幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4441.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4443.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
說明說委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4443.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4445.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
我們也會考慮在未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4445.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4447.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
我們希望在年度的預算能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4447.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4449.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
編進去然後能夠用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4449.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4451.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
班級考量他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4451.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4453.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
一個規模初步我們因為沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4453.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4455.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
預算我們沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4455.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
算是內部應試起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4457.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
也聽到也看到了這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4459.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4461.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
的一個聲音我先謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4461.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4463.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
那這個意見麻煩我們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4463.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4465.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
再研議一下我覺得校長提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4465.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4467.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
意見很有道理啦就是看學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4467.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4469.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
規模來去設計人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4469.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4471.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
的編排那另外也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4471.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4473.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
幫我們學生來這個請願 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4473.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4475.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
政府一直在宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4475.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4477.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
高中職跟五專前三年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4477.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4479.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
全面免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4479.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4481.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
這也是得正啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4481.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4483.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
減輕了很多青年學職跟家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4483.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4485.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
的負擔那這點我是給你肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4485.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4487.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
但是事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4487.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4489.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
同樣國中畢業去就讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4489.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4491.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
私立的學校私立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4491.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4493.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
高中職跟私立五專 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4493.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4495.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
其他平均的補助金額還是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4495.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4497.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
非常大的差別我舉個例子我這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4497.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4499.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
拿到資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4499.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4501.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
103年以來私立高中職 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4501.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4503.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
是最高每升每學期補助金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4503.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4505.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
從103年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4505.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4507.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
2萬2千800元調整到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4507.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4509.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
114年的2萬6千 |
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26萬 |
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1162元 |
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已經調漲了四次 |
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那學費因為私資人士 |
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變動學費更得提高可是 |
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五專每升 |
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每學期補助金額 |
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我們可以看到教育部拿到的資料 |
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103年 |
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平均每升只用一整 |
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學年不是一個學期 |
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103年平均每升 |
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每學年補助金額是 |
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1萬9千6百 |
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43元到114年 |
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變成1萬9千2百 |
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119元還縮水 |
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那五專是培育我們國家 |
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專業的人才那為了學生 |
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擁有專業技能也可以補上 |
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很多專業產業的缺口因為這邊 |
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時間有限 |
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我把這問題拋出來 |
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我希望教育部能夠給我一個報告 |
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這個部分你們覺得是不是 |
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能夠來幫助我們今天 |
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那個學生們 |
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來去在補助上變得 |
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是更公平然後讓他們 |
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同樣能夠接受到 |
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國家的得證讓年輕人 |
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在這個求學的階段 |
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可以得到更多的幫助 |
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謝謝委員提醒我想我們 |
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可以來研議因為高職的部分 |
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技高的部分它確實會因為 |
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類科補助的這個 |
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學費會不同那這個五專 |
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五專這個部分我們看怎麼樣 |
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來說等剛才委員所提的 |
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我們以實際性來研議 |
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然後來希望 |
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真正落實我們 |
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本來免學會的這個政策 |
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能夠照顧到我們 |
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最後我先謝謝部長反正這兩個 |
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部分都是我想請 |
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部裡面給我一個報告 |
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讓我們一起來研商 |
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最後我是給部長一個小小的建議 |
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一個建議 |
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6月29號我們在 |
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校事會議的時候我想部長 |
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應該知道在 |
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尤其在鐵拳教育這部片引起 |
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很多人關心教育現場 |
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問題的時候校事會議的改進 |
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跟檢討已經變成全國教師 |
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認為的重中之重 |
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我先不去細究今天你 |
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講所謂的這個請病假的過程 |
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我光講一件事情我希望部長 |
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以後你還是要把它放在 |
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心上 |
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在老師們覺得這麼 |
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重要的校事會議的改革 |
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的議程上立法院排了 |
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他已經不是尊重立法院 |
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的問題而已 |
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他也包括今天全國老師 |
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心心念念希望部長能夠 |
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在這個教育改革的 |
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現場立法院的現場 |
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能夠來展現出今天 |
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4658.68 |
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幫助老師 |
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來去解決教育現場困境 |
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的一個態度但是我覺得 |
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真的很遺憾你那天選擇 |
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的是去彰化陪候選人 |
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去視察但你認為視察 |
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也重要可是這兩 |
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件事情的輕重緩急 |
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我覺得部長第一個要給你提醒 |
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那第二個就是當然 |
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我也要必須說因為6月 |
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18號下午你請假的時候 |
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那時候是在羅庭威 |
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招偉旁邊那時候確實身體不舒服 |
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謝謝18號謝謝委員 |
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我也用這個機會澄清 |
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我知道你也講你請假 |
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是18號不是29號 |
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好沒關係可是我要這邊跟你 |
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部長你講兩件事 |
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第一個就是 |
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在當時6月18號我在 |
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羅庭威旁邊聽到你身體不適 |
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4704.68 |
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我們還請你多保重說對不對 |
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所以我心存感激其實那一天中午 |
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我要離開這個招偉 |
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跟您都有送我到門口 |
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部長先等我講完了 |
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4714.68 |
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我只是要把問題釐清給你建議 |
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我覺得基本上 |
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羅招偉那時候是一個 |
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也是一個體恤部長身體的狀況 |
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但是那時候確實在旁邊我的感覺 |
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是你只要身體的狀況 |
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沒改變的話基本上你會 |
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4726.68 |
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4728.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
在這種狀況之下你不會來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4728.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
所以羅招偉跟我們認知到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4730.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4732.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
你身體不舒服不來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4732.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4734.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
可是今天將心比心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4734.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4736.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
當立法院審查效勢會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4736.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4738.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
我們停留在你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4738.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4740.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
6月18號身體不舒服所以你沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4740.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4742.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
當然認為是身體不舒服沒來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4742.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4744.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
結果你到了彰化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4744.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4746.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
去陪著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4746.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4748.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
這個縣長的參選人來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4748.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4750.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
來去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4750.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4752.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
那這個東西基本上我覺得外界有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4752.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4754.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
誤議部長我覺得你還是可以把它放在心上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4754.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4756.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
但是真正重要的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4756.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4758.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
我還是提醒部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4758.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4760.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
那天是審查效勢會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4760.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4762.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
大家都那麼關心這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4762.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4764.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
就部長這個輕重緩急你選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4764.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4766.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
感謝委員的提醒當然是我也必須要澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4766.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4768.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4768.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4770.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
我們事實上也跟召偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4770.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4772.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
請假然後事實上也不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4772.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4774.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
用病假然後我也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4774.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4776.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
跟委員報告我到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4776.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4778.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
去你如果我有觀察到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4778.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4780.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
我特別會到偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4780.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4782.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
原來的農業縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4782.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4784.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
我不會到我比較受不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4784.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4786.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
時間到了我就給你一個簡單的見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4786.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4788.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
我要跟外界報告包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4788.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4790.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
那一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4790.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4792.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
底下不爭官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4792.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4794.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
謝一鳳委員也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4794.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4796.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
我辦公室特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4796.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4798.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
通知謝委員說我會到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4798.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4800.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
彰化去看地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4800.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4802.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
一切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4802.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4804.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4804.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4806.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
我只要到地方一定會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4806.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4808.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
地方縣市的教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4808.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4810.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4810.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4812.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
我是給你一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4813.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4815.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
輕重緩急還是要分啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4816.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4818.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
我相信到地方考察的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4818.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4820.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
是很彈性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4820.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4822.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
有各種時間可以安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4822.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4824.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
在校市會議的那個審查就那一天啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4824.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4826.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
所有老師睜大眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4826.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4828.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
再看就是那一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4828.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4830.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
身為教育部長大家在看說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4830.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
希望教育部長在那個會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4832.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4834.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
展現出當老師後盾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4834.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4836.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
態度這一點給部長參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4836.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4838.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
我也要跟委員報告感謝委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4838.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4840.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
一個關心確實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4840.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4842.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
這兩年來我進來教育部這兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4842.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4844.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
來沒有寒暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4844.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
我原來過去我一直以為我寒暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4848.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
可以去看學校希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4848.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
教學軟體能夠去改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4852.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
但是我們到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4852.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4854.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
我建議你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4854.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
我們現在立法院我們不再做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
不管是法案審查選民服務也沒什麼寒暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
我覺得尊重你的感受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
我的建議就這麼簡單以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
謝謝委員提醒謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4874.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4876.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
謝謝羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4880.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4880.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4882.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
動幾回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4881.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4883.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
好現在請羅廷瑋召會諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4887.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4889.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4889.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4891.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
有請教育部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4891.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4893.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
衛福部林靜怡政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4893.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4895.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
還有食安辦主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4895.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4897.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
請教育部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4897.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4899.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
林靜怡政次還有食安辦主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4902.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4904.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
委員好好部長好政次好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4906.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4908.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
主任好我先請教一下衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4908.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4910.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
顯強請問一下政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4910.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4912.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
像行政院召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4912.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4916.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
行政院院會跟縣市各個開會的時候你會在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4916.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
不一定部長通常是部長代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
部長出席好九日時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
部長說行政院會台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4924.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
副市長問什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4924.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4926.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
這些有品可以上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4926.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4928.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
那媒體就去詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4928.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4930.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
黃副市長你有說過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4930.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4932.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
黃副市長說我只有建議更嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4932.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
的風險管控還有源頭的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
全面下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
那我們再看到衛福部在會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
竟然補充說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4942.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
台中市沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4942.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
何時上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4946.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
只有說全面下架的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4946.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4948.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
大街來抹黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4948.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4950.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
小巷來澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4950.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4952.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
那我想部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4952.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4954.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
有沒有跟你說這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4954.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
我想麻煩你幫忙轉達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4958.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
請部長在所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4958.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4960.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
事實陳述的時候還是要特別注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4960.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4962.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
那不要有任何的抹黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4962.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4964.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
狀況因為我想現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4964.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
到底什麼是真什麼是假我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4968.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
更注重在官員在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4968.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4970.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
質詢的過程甚至是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4970.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4972.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
備詢的時候的一些解說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4972.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4974.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
還有記者會所提供的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4974.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4976.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
內容參據都會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4976.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4978.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
我們民眾能夠更了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4978.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4980.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
現況我們看到十二日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4980.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4982.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
時部長他在指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4982.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4984.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
下游的油品和上游的原油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4984.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4986.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
檢驗存在落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4986.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4988.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
同樣的事情不只一樁 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4988.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4990.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
但是因此 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4990.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4992.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
衛福部懷疑到中聯油紙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4992.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4994.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
檢體造假第一時間才不公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4994.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4996.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
所以才會擴大到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4996.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4998.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
四到六月的產品全數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4998.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
5000.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
預防性下降在對應十一日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
5000.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
5002.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
我們看到台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
5002.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
5004.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
地院裁定中聯油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
5004.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
5006.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
總經理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
5006.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
5008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
認罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
5008.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
5010.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
交保的理由是行使業務上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
5010.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
5012.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
登載不實的文書罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
5012.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
5014.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
顯然本案已經進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
5014.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
5016.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
甄審的一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
5016.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
5018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
我就尚未公開的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
5018.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
5020.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
不做任何的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
5020.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
5022.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
代院檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
5022.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
5024.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
以及衛部來做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
5024.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
5026.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
偵查告一段落以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
5026.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
5028.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
我們也希望政府應該向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
5028.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
5030.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
國人來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
5030.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
5032.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
那我想許主任我們在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
5032.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
5034.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
也要應該感謝檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
5034.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
5036.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
我們也要在第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
5036.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
5038.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
跟衛福部來配合才能挖掘最底層 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
5038.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
5040.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
我們現在才知道的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
5040.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
5042.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
黑暗資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
5042.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
5044.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
就如同食藥署在前身 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
5044.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
5046.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
食藥局的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
5046.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
5048.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
99年到100年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
5048.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
5050.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
跟我們的調查局一起合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
5050.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
5052.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
才能夠破獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
5052.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
5054.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
豎起食品摻雜衛爾岡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
5054.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
5056.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
尾藥案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
5056.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
5058.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
這也是當時食藥辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
5058.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
5060.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
成立的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
5060.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5062.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
作為跨部會的協調工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5062.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5064.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
我們也希望能夠幫助到幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5064.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5066.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
倒刊雜誌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5066.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5068.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5069.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
主長許超凱指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5071.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
這類食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5073.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5075.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
所製的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5075.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5077.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
業者都是採 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5077.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5079.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
核傳採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5079.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5081.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
考量黃豆季節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5081.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5083.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
性以及業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5083.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5085.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
會同時採購美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5085.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5087.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
巴西以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5087.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5089.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
目前國內多數的另有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5089.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5091.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
廠製成原料驗收 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5091.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5093.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
都是從出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5093.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5095.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
炸的毛油來做檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5095.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5097.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
以及後續的脫色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5097.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5099.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
過程均做的比中年油脂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5099.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5101.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
還要好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5101.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5103.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
可以研判 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5104.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
將這個疑慮的致癌物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5104.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5106.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
他的標準下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5106.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5108.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
至限量的一個標準下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5108.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5110.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
我們又看到9日呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5110.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
江志剛又說台糖五六月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5114.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
向福茂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5114.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
購入了中年油脂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5118.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
出炸的油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5117.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
自自家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
出炸油品來混合精煉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
所以製成了台糖大豆沙拉油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
以及烤酥油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
兩品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
我們看到台糖現在也有預防性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5131.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
一個下架作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5131.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
但11日我們又看到呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5135.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
石崇良表示10月8日以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5135.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5137.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
食藥署自我們三家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5137.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5139.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
煉油廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5139.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
大同意台糖常輝食業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5141.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5143.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
進行駐場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5143.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5145.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我想問一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5145.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5147.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
林次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5148.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5150.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
10月8日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5150.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5152.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
食藥署結網 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5151.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5153.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
7月8日 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5153.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5155.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
我們自三家煉油廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5155.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5157.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
大同意台糖常輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5157.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5159.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
是否由於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5159.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5161.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
檢調來做配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5161.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5163.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5163.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5165.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
現階段還有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5165.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5167.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
跟他們其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5167.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5169.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
時段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5169.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5171.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
共同使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5171.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
黃豆原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5173.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
與中蓮油是使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5175.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5177.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
同一批船的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5179.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5178.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5180.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5185.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5187.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
該抽驗30件的檢體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5187.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5189.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
化驗的報告出爐了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5189.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5191.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
是不是應該即時公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5192.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5194.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
沒有全部出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5194.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5196.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
目前已經出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5196.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5198.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
15件包含大同意常輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5198.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5200.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
這邊還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5200.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5202.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5202.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5204.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
報告出爐要即時公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5204.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5206.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
我們這邊因為持續都在驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5206.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5208.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
所以我們有新的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5208.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5210.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
我們都會再公布 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5210.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5212.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
我想自來獨有食藥署第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5212.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5214.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
定義戰犯是巴西進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5214.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5216.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
含水率過高的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5216.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5218.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
然後安排學者說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5218.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5220.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
巴西黃豆在原產地採收了後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5220.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5222.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
乾燥、蒸熏的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5222.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5224.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
恐出現熱損傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5224.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
而產生了BAP的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
然而從今年1到5月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5230.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
台灣從巴西進口的黃豆量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5232.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5234.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
總量達到59.9萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5234.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5236.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
該批大豆除了供應中年油脂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
還有可能三家的其他電油廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5242.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5244.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
大同意台糖常輝食業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5244.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5246.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
是否有少量供應其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5248.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5250.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
做醬油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5250.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5252.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
豆漿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
豆類製品的工廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5253.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5255.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
畢竟沙拉油在煉製的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5255.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5257.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
BAP的含量下降80%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5257.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5261.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
但其他豆類製品直接粉碎加工使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5261.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5263.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
我們都很想知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5263.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5265.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
市長有沒有其他的肉網之魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5265.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5267.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
醬油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5267.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5269.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
多乾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5268.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5270.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
醬油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5298.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5300.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
同一批黃豆來源的製品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5300.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5302.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5302.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5304.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
同一批黃豆來源的製品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5304.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5306.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
這個部分我們會另外後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5306.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5308.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
所以我要提醒嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5308.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5310.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
就是說現在國人會擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5310.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5312.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
同一批的黃豆如果有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5312.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5314.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
他做成醬油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5314.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5316.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
或者是加工類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5316.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5318.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
製成不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5318.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5320.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
我們還是鼓勵衛福部食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5320.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5322.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
應該去抽查檢驗嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5322.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5324.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
去了解雖然製成不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5324.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5326.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
但同一批的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5326.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5328.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5328.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5330.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
跟這些黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5330.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5332.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
同一批黃豆他用同樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5332.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5334.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
跟這個油一樣製成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5334.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5336.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
我們全面來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5336.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5338.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
跟您做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5338.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5340.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
所以你可以同意去做檢驗嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5340.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5342.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
我們確認一下是不是同一批黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5342.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5344.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
因為通常黃豆來源不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5344.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5346.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
我是具體的建議同一批黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5346.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5348.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
有不同的製品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5348.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5350.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
醬油都應該去檢驗看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5350.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5352.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
擴大去檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5352.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5354.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
我了解你說的製成不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5354.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5356.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
但是擴大檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5356.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5358.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
避免食安嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5358.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5360.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
那就是您所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5360.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5362.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
跟這一批黃豆有關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5362.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5364.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
我們全面清查一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5364.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5366.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我想巴西黃豆有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5366.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5368.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
美國黃豆是否也有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5368.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5370.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
我們也應該同樣的去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5370.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5372.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
倘若不是巴西黃豆的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5372.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5374.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
那我想對於貿易果斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5374.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5376.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
議策是否對貿易夥伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5376.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5378.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
有不盡之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5378.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5380.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
還是要謹慎處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5380.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5382.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
這個部分我只是提醒而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5382.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5384.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
美國黃豆我們也是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5384.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5386.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
最高的品質就是全面清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5386.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5388.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
不要有掛一漏萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5388.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5390.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
這個委員我們要再強調一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5390.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5392.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
就是我們現在辦專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5392.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5394.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
為什麼我們讓中聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5394.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5396.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
我們還沒有讓他能夠復工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5396.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5398.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
就是我們對於他在製造過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5398.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5400.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
應該要做品管的節點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5400.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5402.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
他還沒有辦法說服我們他有好的品管 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5402.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5404.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
這個部分麻煩我提醒一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5404.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5406.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
那現在我們看到有教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5406.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5408.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
在指出說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5408.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5410.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
BAP超標的案例其實非常罕見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5410.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5412.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
一般從油脂精煉的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5412.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5414.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
即便是毛油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5414.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5416.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
BAP的含量偏高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5416.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5420.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
脫膠、脫酸、脫色、脫臭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5420.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5422.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
完整的精煉程序以後理論上是可以把濃度下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5422.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5426.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
又說黃豆原料精萃取精煉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5426.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5430.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
就能把不試山酸乾油脂的部分拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5430.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5432.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
而BAP就是不試山酸乾油脂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5432.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5434.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
它就是這個部分的成分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5434.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5436.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
理論上可以程序降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5436.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5438.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
我要請問一下許主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5438.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5440.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
現在大豆自由出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5442.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5444.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
那大豆破了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5444.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5446.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
大豆破跑去哪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5446.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5448.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
有沒有製成飼料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5448.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5450.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
有沒有追蹤銷售 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5450.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5452.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
收回 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5452.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5454.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
這個全世界對於飼料的BAP的管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5454.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5456.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
所以現在會認為進入飼料供應鏈動物的飼養 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
經濟動物上面是沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
全世界沒有規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
但是我現在提出一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5470.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
我也請國人聽聽看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5470.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5472.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
有問題的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5472.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5474.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
這個BAP做成飼料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5474.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5478.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
供這些飼養動物來食用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5478.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5482.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
那我們再來吃這些飼養的動物 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5482.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5484.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
這個部分我們有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5484.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5488.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
所以我認為這個部分依照法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5488.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5490.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
黃豆有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5491.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5493.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
我們不管後面加工就是不可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5493.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5495.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
飼料管理法就規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5495.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5497.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
飼料不可以使用變質的原料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5497.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5499.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
目前大豆破的流向為何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5499.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5501.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
食安辦有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5502.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
大豆破大部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5504.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5506.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
進入飼料供應鏈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5506.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5508.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
這一批有問題的黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5508.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5510.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
所製成的大豆破 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5510.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5512.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
現在也是一樣做成飼料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5512.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5514.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
做成飼養動物的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5514.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5516.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
我們就會懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5516.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5518.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
雖然世界沒有定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5518.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5520.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
但是我們會不會有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5520.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5522.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
謝謝委員我補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5522.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5524.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
因為這些黃豆做成油 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5524.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5526.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
這個本篇皮是融在油裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5526.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5528.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
所以它在油的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5528.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
現在我們製造沙拉油的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5532.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
它被融出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5532.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5534.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
所以如果照學理上來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5534.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5536.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
它是不會再豆破那一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5536.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5538.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
我希望你們的推斷是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5538.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5540.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
但是我還是要再次提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5540.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5542.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
大豆破同一批黃豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5542.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5544.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
它所製成的是不是有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5544.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5546.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
這個部分你們應該加強一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5546.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5548.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
因為我們現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5548.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5550.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
對於整個民進黨的食安五環 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5550.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5552.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
已經徹底破功 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5552.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5554.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
我們感到非常非常的擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5554.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5556.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
我還是要針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5556.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
建議衛福部針對壟斷性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5560.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
大宗代工廠進行提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5560.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5562.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
頻率的無預警的製程抽驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5564.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5566.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
來列入不定期的抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5566.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5568.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
這個部分還要拜託食安班 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5568.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5570.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
要完全負責協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5570.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5572.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
統籌跨部會的食品管理作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5574.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5576.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
然後來做這個刑事的偵查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5576.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5578.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
配合調查局配合檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5578.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
這個部分要提醒一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
這個地方的抽查我們會跟地方衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5584.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
一起合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5584.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5586.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
主要抽查是地方衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5586.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5588.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
這個我還是要提醒你們要有一個角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5588.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
現在要再問教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
部長問直接的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5594.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
這起自來獨有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5594.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5596.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
進入到校園不是食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5596.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5598.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
是教育主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5598.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5600.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
教育部嚴重失職的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5600.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5602.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
事情早在4月就發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5602.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
但到現在已經擴及20個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5606.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
623所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5606.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5608.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
258所幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5608.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5610.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
結果教育部第一反應是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5610.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5612.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
地方政府第一線落實差額 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5612.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5614.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
請問中央主管機關的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5614.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
根本就是把監管私能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5618.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
甩脫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5618.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5620.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
交給我們第一線地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5620.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5622.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
我們是沒有辦法接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5622.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5624.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
教育部一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5624.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5626.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
滾動試盤之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5626.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5628.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
落實有疑慮就先下架的預防措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5628.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5630.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
以學生健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5630.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5632.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
為唯一的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5632.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5634.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
這句話聽起來很好聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5634.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5636.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
但我請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5636.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5638.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
以學生健康為唯一標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5638.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5640.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
那請你告訴國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5640.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5642.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
這幾個月教育部做了哪一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5642.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5644.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
對得起這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5644.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5646.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
你該不會要說有疑慮就先下架吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5647.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5649.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
那我問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5649.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5651.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
有疑慮就先下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5651.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
衛福部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5655.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
20%含量的可以繼續留存 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5655.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5657.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
在貨架上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5657.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5659.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
你能不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5659.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5661.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
我問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5661.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5663.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
你說有疑慮就先下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5663.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5665.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
衛福部說20%含量的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5665.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
可以留在貨架上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5669.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
你能不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5669.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5671.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
你先回答我你能不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5671.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
我們所有的下架規準 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5673.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5675.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
全部依據食藥署的公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5675.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
我們所有22個地方縣市教育技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5677.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5679.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
我們做預防性的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5681.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5683.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
衛福部說20%含量的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5683.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5685.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
不用下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5685.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
來教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5687.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5689.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
我們現在場面化大家這樣子講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5689.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5691.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
但是重點的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5691.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5693.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
政府公佈了問題產品的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5693.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5695.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
只是風險揭露第一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5695.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5697.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
真正關鍵是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5697.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5699.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
我們現在涉入致癌物質的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5699.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5701.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
教育部下一步作為要怎麼樣負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5701.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5703.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
你告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5703.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5705.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
有疑慮我們會請學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5705.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5707.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
地方縣市政府來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5707.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5709.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
學校把名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5709.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5711.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
全國國人一定都有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5711.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5713.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
我現在目前家長最關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5713.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5715.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
不是怎麼退貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5715.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5717.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
他們不是要那個小錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5717.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5719.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
他們現在關心的是孩子的健康風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5719.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5721.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
如何評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5721.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5723.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
那家長要不要協助他們長期追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5723.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5725.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
你們有沒有醫療 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5725.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5727.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
跟我們學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5727.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
後續照顧我們學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5731.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
好 待會我讓你說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5731.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5733.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
所以我今天要提出具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5733.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5735.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
完整方案跟配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5735.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5737.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
我希望教育部要講清楚說明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5737.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5739.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
請教育部儘速提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5739.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5741.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
健康照護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5741.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5743.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
還有制度改革的一個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5743.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5745.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
讓食安防線不會停留在事件發生後的補救 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5747.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5749.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
還有所謂我們要建立所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5749.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5751.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
預防追溯應變照護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5751.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5753.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
四大機制 請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5753.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5755.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
謝謝委員提醒 事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5755.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5757.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
這一定是中央跟地方要一起合作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5757.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5759.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
我們所有的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5759.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5761.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
每天所有的食材全部公開透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5761.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5763.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
登錄在這個食材上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5763.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5765.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
所以當7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5765.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5767.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
一公佈 食藥署一公佈的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5767.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5769.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5769.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5771.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
22個地方縣市全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5771.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5773.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
在平台裡面掃過一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5773.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5775.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
才發現有1380個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5775.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5777.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
學校用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5777.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5779.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
中年所提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5779.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5781.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
三家的油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5781.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5783.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
然後接著我們請22個地方縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5783.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5785.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
教育局處馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5785.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5787.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
學校裡面根據那個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5787.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5789.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
逐一的來做下架的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5789.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
我想我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5793.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
教育部在這個部分跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5793.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
是後續的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5797.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
剛才委員所提的 我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5797.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5799.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
也在思考 如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5799.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5801.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
學生有因為這兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5801.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5803.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5803.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5805.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
身體不適的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5805.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5807.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
家長是不是學校建立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5807.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5809.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
機制 讓怎麼樣來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5809.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5811.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
做一個比較 一個長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5811.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5813.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
我相信孩子不會現在感受到不適 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5813.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5815.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
我希望你針對623所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5815.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5817.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
258所幼兒園能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5817.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5819.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
針對他們來做一個長期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5819.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5821.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
我們中央跟地方來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5821.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5823.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
我想問我希望你具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5823.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
會後提供書面資料 你們要怎麼具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
來做這個相關的機制給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5829.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
我們來跟地方來看怎麼樣來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5829.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5831.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
有一個更好的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5831.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5833.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
大專院校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5833.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5835.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5835.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5837.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
他們雖然不是營養午餐的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5837.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5839.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
但是我們有沒有去關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5839.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5841.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
也有一些餐廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5841.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5843.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
所以大專院校也有可能因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5843.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5845.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
他周邊的飲食的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5845.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5847.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
所以所造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5847.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5849.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
有可能他們涉入到這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5849.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5851.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
學校沒有辦法所有的社區每一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5851.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5853.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
希望能夠關掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5853.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5855.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
學裡面的餐廳我們全部有追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5855.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5857.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
但是大學外的周邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5857.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5859.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
當然是可能仰賴衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5859.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5861.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
去做抽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5861.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5863.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
但是我希望現在還是要提醒大學的校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5863.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5865.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
應該要去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5869.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
不是我們事不關己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5873.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
但是關心學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5873.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
第一你可以承諾大專院校內的餐廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
那我們已經全面監察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
但是是不是也要了解一下大專院校外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5881.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
請大專院校好好的關心這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5881.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
請大專院校好好的關心這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5885.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
在食藥署所公佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5885.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5887.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
我們已經都全部做下校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5887.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5889.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
學生的安全健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5889.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5891.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
我跟委員的心情是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5891.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5893.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
我們一定要極力來維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5893.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5895.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
我們要掌握啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5895.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5897.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
反正大專院校還有我們國高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5897.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5899.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
其實我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5899.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5901.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
就這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5901.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5903.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
我們當然不捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5903.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5905.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
有一些不良廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5905.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5907.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
做了這樣一個壞的示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5907.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5909.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
但是國教署在第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5909.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5911.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
跟地方政府的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5911.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5913.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
應該可以肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5913.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5915.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
我只是要提醒你大學生也是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5915.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5917.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
這個部分一定要特別注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5917.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5919.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5919.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5921.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
我要有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5921.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5923.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
現在所有的官員回到座位上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5924.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5926.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5926.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5928.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
有請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5931.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5933.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
幫我邀請我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5933.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5935.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
信義國小教師會常務理事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5936.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5938.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
唐英國先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5937.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5939.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
請我們常理事上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5941.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5943.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
鼓掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5943.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
我們依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5945.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5947.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
我們現在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5947.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5949.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
委員的手冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5949.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
我們可以邀請社會的相關人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5951.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5953.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
來委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5953.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5955.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
來跟大家分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5955.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5957.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
今天我要邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5957.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5959.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
第一線的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5959.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5961.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
來跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5961.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5963.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
來跟大家講第一線的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5963.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5965.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
第一線的為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5965.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5967.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
也希望部長能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5967.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5969.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
好好地聽一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5969.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
老師他們現在的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
他們到底是怎麼樣在第一線奮戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5977.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5979.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
主席各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5979.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5981.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
各位長官現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5981.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5983.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
媒體先生小姐大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5985.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5987.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
感謝委員邀請我來分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5988.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
教育現場的第一線的真實情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5992.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5994.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
我是一名現職的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5994.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5996.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
國小老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5996.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5998.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
年資將近30年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5998.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
6000.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
但今天我並不是來為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
6000.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
6002.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
教師爭取權益的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
6002.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
6004.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
我是來替學生請命 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
6005.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
6007.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
替教育請命 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
6007.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
6009.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
因為教育如果失敗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
6009.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
6011.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
最後受害的不是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
6011.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
6013.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
而是整個國家的下一代 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
6015.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
6017.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
我先分享兩個真實的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
6017.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
6019.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
6019.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
6021.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
十年前我當導師的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
6021.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
6023.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
我有一個學生國小畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
6024.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
6026.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
6026.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
6028.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
他告訴我說老師我長大之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
6028.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
6030.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
也要像你一樣當一個國小老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
6032.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
6034.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
那我請他用力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
6034.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
6036.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
然後經過了三年的國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
6036.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
6038.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
三年的高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
6038.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
6040.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
他真的考上了教育大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
6040.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
6042.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
那再經過四年的鍛煉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
6042.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
6044.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
他去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
6043.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
6045.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
進入了教育實習的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
6047.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
6049.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
6048.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
6050.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
就在實習沒有多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
6051.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
6053.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
他因為提醒一個上課講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
6053.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
6055.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
比較大聲的一個女學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
6057.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
6059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
那個女學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
6058.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
6060.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
頭抬起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
6060.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
6062.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
就對他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
6062.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
6064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
看三小 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
6065.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
6067.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
6067.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
6069.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
我們大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
6069.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6071.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
這三個字有多麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6072.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6074.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
而且還是學生對老師說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6076.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6078.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
他認住了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6078.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6080.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
幾秒鐘之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6080.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6082.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
他就漫漫的離開那間教室 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6082.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6084.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
然後請假 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6085.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
回家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6085.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
整理思緒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6087.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6089.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
第三天回來學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6089.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6091.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
去教育處 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6090.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6092.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
辦理終止實習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6092.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6094.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
他不當老師了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6094.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6096.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
十年的教師夢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6096.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
當場夢飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6100.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6099.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6101.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
他不希望未來三十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6101.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6103.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
還在這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6104.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6106.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
教育環境下工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6107.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6109.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
我想這會不會是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6110.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6112.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
教師方的可能原因之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6113.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6115.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
第二個故事第二個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6116.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6118.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
有一位老師在上課的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6119.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6121.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
用電子黑板就是手滑式觸控式的那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6121.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6123.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
那可能有一點接觸不良 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6123.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6125.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
第一時間沒有滑出正確的畫面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6129.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6131.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
那有一個小男生立刻就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6133.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6135.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
你是幹什麼吃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6135.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6137.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
也是對老師這樣子說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6139.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6141.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6140.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6142.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
我們真正要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6142.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6144.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
為什麼現在越來越多的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6144.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6146.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
他會這樣子的對待老師呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6148.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6150.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
教師其實他就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6150.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6152.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
縮小版的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
各種孩子都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
而孩子最容易模仿的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6158.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6157.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6159.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
他的同宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6159.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6161.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
當少數學生可以羞辱老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6161.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6163.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
而沒有明確界限的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6163.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6165.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
其他孩子就會跟風模仿 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6166.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6168.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
老師原本準備了一場精彩的課 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6171.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6173.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
卻因為少數學生的干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6173.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
而不得不中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6174.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6176.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
真正受傷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6177.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6179.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
其實不是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6179.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6181.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
其實也不是那些嗆聲的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6183.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6185.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
真正受傷的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6185.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6187.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
是全班二十幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6187.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6189.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
認真學習的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6189.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6191.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
今天被浪費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6191.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6193.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
也不是一個老師的上課時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6194.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6196.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
而是一整個班級的學習時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6196.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6198.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
所以我要問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6198.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
那些守規矩願意學習的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6201.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6203.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
他們的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6203.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6205.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
又在哪呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6206.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6208.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
我再分享一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6208.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6210.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
有關於教室會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6210.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6212.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
為什麼會有防禦式教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6212.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6214.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
有一家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6214.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6216.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
他的教學理念比較開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6216.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6218.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
他常常幫女兒請三天的連假 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6220.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6222.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
全家出去做家庭式教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6223.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6225.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
這很好這沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6225.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6227.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
那回來之後是不是還要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6227.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6229.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
學校的功課給補上呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6230.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6232.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
但是他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6231.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6233.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
那老師依照班規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6233.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6235.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
將他的號碼只要班上沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6236.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6238.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
繳交作業整齊的號碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6238.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6240.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
他就會被記在班上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6240.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6242.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
記在黑板上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6242.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6244.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
等你繳交完了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6244.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6246.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
自己就可以上去把它擦掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6246.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6248.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
其實全國很多班級都是這麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6248.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6250.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
這沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6251.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6253.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
繳交的東西可能太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6253.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6255.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
他沒有及時補完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6255.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6257.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
因為是過了幾天之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6257.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6259.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
黑板上只剩他的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6259.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6261.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
只剩他的號碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6259.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6261.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
那他就覺得心裡不舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6261.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6263.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
跟他媽媽反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6263.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6265.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
媽媽就跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6266.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
老師快通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6266.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6268.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
他說是不是可以擦掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6268.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6270.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
老師就說可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6270.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
請他補交完就可以擦掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6273.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6275.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
那這樣一個堅持班規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6275.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6277.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
堅持教學理念的老師呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6279.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6281.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
就被媽媽指控為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6281.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6283.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
大靈大的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6284.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6286.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
這荒謬嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6288.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6290.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
請學生繳交作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6291.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6293.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
居然可以成為霸凌的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6293.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6295.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
但是更荒謬的在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6297.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6299.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
他告告告到了學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6299.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6301.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
上市會議還接受了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
這個老師還被送進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
上市會議做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6307.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6309.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
那所以最後當然沒有解聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6309.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6311.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
不續聘的那些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6311.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6313.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
但是他還是強迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6313.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6315.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
被接受兩個月的輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6317.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6319.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
那在這裡面當然就是身心煎熬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6320.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6322.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
收進了委屈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6323.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
那從那之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6327.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
很多老師就開始進行所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6327.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6329.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
防禦式教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
不是不想教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
不是不想管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
而是不敢管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
不是不願意要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
而是不敢要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
因為沒有人知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6343.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
下一個被送進上市會議的人會不會是自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6342.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6344.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
這就是教育現場的現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6344.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6346.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6345.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6347.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
請大家注意的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6347.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6349.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
老師他只是想保護自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6349.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6351.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
但真正失去的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6351.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6353.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
孩子的教育品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
如果老師因為害怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
而不敢管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
失去受教權的就是大多數安靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6361.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6363.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
努力守規矩的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6364.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6366.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
教育他從來就不只是教知識而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6368.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6372.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
他更是教尊重責任規矩與是非 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6373.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6375.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
那如果老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6375.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6377.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
連維持秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6377.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6379.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
連繳交作業的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6379.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6381.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
不要擔心被調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6381.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6383.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
那孩子到底要向誰學習呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6384.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
我記得前幾個月有個團體上街 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6386.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6388.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
教師團體上街表達訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6388.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6390.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
那我們教育部長回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6390.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6392.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
我記得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6392.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6394.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
部長說請他們回學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6394.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6396.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
把學生給教好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6398.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6400.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
那我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6400.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6402.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
向部長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6402.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6404.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
我們每個老師真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6404.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6406.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
都為你拿出最大的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6406.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6408.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
把學生教好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6408.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6410.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
但是老師們得到的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6410.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6412.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
和他們所被承擔的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6412.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6414.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
完全是不成比例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6415.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6417.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6416.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6418.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
沒有支持認真的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6420.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6422.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
政策沒有支持認真的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6424.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6426.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
德國教育學家福貝爾的名言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6427.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6429.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
他說 教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6429.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6431.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6430.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6432.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
喂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6431.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6433.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
與榜樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6433.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6435.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
那我認為教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6435.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6437.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
他不只是在教室裡近距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6437.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6439.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
學生跟老師之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6440.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6442.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
聽到摸到看到 |
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6442.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6444.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
才叫做教育才叫做模範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6444.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
政府官員的一言一行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6446.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6448.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
透過媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6448.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6450.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
也都是孩子們學習的榜樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
我們今天婚禮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6453.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6455.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
不是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6454.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6456.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6457.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6459.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
而是希望制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6459.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6461.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
真正保護大多數孩子的社交權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6465.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6469.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
我懇請各位正式基層教師的吶喊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6469.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6471.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
正式基層教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6471.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6473.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
教育的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6475 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6477 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
不要讓認真的老師含心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6477.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6479.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
不要讓認真的孩子失望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6480.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6482.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
因此 我誠懇建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6483.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6487.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
教師會議是否能夠儘快暫停示意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6488.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6490.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
全面檢討之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6490.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6492.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
該修就修 該廢就廢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6492.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6494.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
讓制度真正回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6494.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6496.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
保障學生社教權的初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6498.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6500.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
我的報告到此 謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6501.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6503.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
好 由請主席請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6503.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6505.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
唐老師 回去喔 那我們請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6505.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6507.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
請那個唐老師回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6507.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6509.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
那有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6515.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6517.13 |
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部長 最近有一則新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6517.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6519.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
國中生遲到被罰超客文 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6520.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6522.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
提國賠 求償140萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6522.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6524.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
你知道這件事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6524.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6526.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
我知道 我看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6526.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6528.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
我想 部長 我們一直在想 家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6528.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6530.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
跟學校教育差別到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6531.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6533.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
我認為學校教育在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6533.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6535.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
培養人格的一個場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6535.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6537.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
我們在學校端也要盡可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6537.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6539.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
將它教好 也希望它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6539.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6541.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
出了社會 能夠有所發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6541.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6543.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
但有沒有想過 你覺得學生畢業以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6543.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6545.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
就不關教育部的問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6545.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6547.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
它是內政部 法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6547.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6549.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
勞動部 衛福部的事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6549.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6551.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
我想 這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6551.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6553.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
難道就跟教育部沒有任何關係嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6553.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6555.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
在今天的書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6555.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6557.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
我們指出 區分 初缺席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6557.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6559.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
管理 獎懲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6559.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6561.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
是為了避免同一行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6561.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6563.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
重複處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6563.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6565.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
若無法使用 既警告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6565.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6567.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
明確的成竹手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6567.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6569.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
勸導 書面自省 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6569.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
等輔導措施 往往 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6573.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
面臨輔導成效不彰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6573.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
學生無所畏懼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
窘境 剛剛我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6579.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
唐老師也提到 第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6579.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6581.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
看到孩子 這麼直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6582.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6584.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
在言語上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6586.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
我們要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
教育部 如果今天提醒勸導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
學生一個不喜歡聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6591 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6593 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
說老師 言語羞辱他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6593 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6595 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
檢舉老師 最終面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6595 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6597 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
校事會議的壓力怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6596.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6598.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
書面自省 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6598.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6600.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
學生拒絕怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6601.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6603.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
有沒有解放 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6602.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6604.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6604.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6606.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
剛才這位老師的一個分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6606.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6608.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
我想我們的想法都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6608.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6610.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
確保學生的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6610.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6612.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
然後尊重老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6612.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6614.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
專業 守護老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6614.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6616.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
一個專業教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6616.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6618.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
我想我們的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6618.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6620.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
我們現在所有的法條規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6620.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6622.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
我們目標都是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6622.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6624.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
那剛才所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6624.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
我掩蓋所關心的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6628.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
也非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6628.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
法院已經判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6630.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6632.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
學生跟家長是敗訴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6632.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6634.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6634.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6636.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
但是過程他們是做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6636.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6638.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
第二個我也要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6638.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6640.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
還有這位老師 我們校事法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
6640.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6642.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
我們怎麼樣去處理不適任教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
6642.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6644.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
本來就是依據教事法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
6644.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6646.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
來訂定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
6646.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6648.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
那當然他有他的一個背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
6648.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
你不適任教師還是要有一定的處理機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6650.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6652.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6652.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6654.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
所以我們感謝委員的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6654.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6656.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
今年一月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6656.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6658.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
我們把過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6658.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6660.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
造成老師的恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6660.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6662.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
無謂的干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
6662.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
這裡邊降到最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6666.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
剛才也跟大會議院報告過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6666.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6668.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6668.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6670.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
一月份委員所支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6670.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6672.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
這個新的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6672.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6674.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
這個分流包含我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6674.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6676.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
這個老師主任平時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6676.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6678.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
怎麼樣去做好親師溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
6678.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6680.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
協助老師有更大的支持力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6680.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6682.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
這些已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
6682.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6684.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
數據告訴我們直接降了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6684.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6686.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
我知道你說降很多 |
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6686.92 |
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6688.92 |
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但是還是 |
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6688.92 |
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6690.92 |
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第一線無感 |
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6690.92 |
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6692.92 |
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針對我回應 |
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6692.92 |
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6694.92 |
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我先問你 如果書面自省學生拒絕 |
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6696.92 |
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如果他提醒 |
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6696.92 |
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6698.92 |
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勸導的時候 學生不喜歡聽 |
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6698.92 |
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6700.92 |
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直接說老師言語羞辱他 |
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6700.92 |
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6702.92 |
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去檢舉老師 |
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6702.92 |
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6704.92 |
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這方面有沒有什麼 |
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6704.92 |
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6706.92 |
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我想這一個部分就是我們第一條 |
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6706.92 |
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6708.92 |
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校長應該要承擔 我們在分流裡面 |
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6709.5 |
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6711.5 |
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這裡邊我們勿忘勿眾 |
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6711.5 |
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6713.5 |
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有教師代表 |
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6713.5 |
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6715.5 |
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有社會公正人士 |
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6715.5 |
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6717.5 |
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校長主持 所以這個部分 |
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6717.5 |
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6719.5 |
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就是我們希望在第一階段 |
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6719.5 |
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6721.5 |
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裡面就能夠講清楚 |
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6721.5 |
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6723.5 |
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能夠分流 |
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6723.5 |
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6725.5 |
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我今天提出來 你還是要想想 |
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6725.5 |
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6727.5 |
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如果今天書面的提醒 |
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6727.5 |
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6729.5 |
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請他自省 |
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6729.5 |
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6731.5 |
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勸導學生不喜歡 |
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6731.5 |
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6733.5 |
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不願意配合 我們要怎麼辦 |
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6733.5 |
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6735.5 |
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我們不可能強迫他 |
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6735.5 |
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6737.5 |
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部長你說對於長期 |
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6737.5 |
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6739.5 |
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老師的本力 |
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6739.5 |
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6741.5 |
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教育學專業的正當管教 |
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6741.5 |
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6743.5 |
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他是不法的 |
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6743.5 |
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6745.5 |
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我們學校所能採取的是特殊管教 |
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6745.5 |
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6747.5 |
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措施 如 |
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6747.5 |
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6749.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
帶回管教 規劃參加 |
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6749.5 |
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6751.5 |
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高關懷課程 心理輔導 |
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6751.5 |
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6753.5 |
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社會服務 還有其他的 |
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6753.5 |
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6755.5 |
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適性教育 這個執行的門檻 |
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6755.5 |
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6757.5 |
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還有實際的成效為何 |
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6757.5 |
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6759.5 |
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教育部有沒有具體的統計數據 |
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6761.27 |
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6763.27 |
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我想這個會後我們可以 |
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6763.27 |
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6765.27 |
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跟委員提供一個書面 |
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6765.27 |
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6767.27 |
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我相信這些東西 |
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6767.27 |
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6769.27 |
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具體的數據讓國人都擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6769.27 |
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6771.27 |
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讓教學現場都覺得 |
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6771.27 |
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6773.27 |
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可能沒有辦法 |
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6773.27 |
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6775.27 |
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讓我們能夠有更具體的 |
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6775.27 |
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6777.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
教育現況 |
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6777.27 |
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6779.27 |
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委員也很清楚 教學他是一個 |
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6779.27 |
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6781.27 |
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專業的工作 那你說現在要 |
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6781.27 |
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6783.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
特殊管教措施 難道就 |
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6783.27 |
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6785.27 |
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不會給我們的孩子貼標籤嗎 |
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6785.27 |
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6787.27 |
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都有個別的 |
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6787.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6789.27 |
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你們在說 議員的法案 |
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6789.27 |
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6791.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
我想會貼標籤 |
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6791.27 |
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6793.27 |
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那你學校自用來服務教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6793.27 |
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6795.27 |
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不會貼標籤嗎 |
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6796.1 |
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6798.1 |
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難道不會貼標籤嗎 |
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6798.1 |
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6800.1 |
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標籤的話 基本上從學校的立場 |
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6800.1 |
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6802.1 |
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我們應該把它降到最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6802.1 |
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6804.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
如果未有明顯改善初學期的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6804.1 |
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6806.1 |
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那再不得已 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6806.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6808.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
不能夠加以懲處的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6808.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6810.1 |
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學校到底能做什麼 我們今天就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6810.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6812.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
要探討這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6812.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6814.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
好 我想想 這陣子為什麼大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6814.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6816.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
所有家長全部爆炸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6816.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6818.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
初學期 跨課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6818.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6820.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
時到不能去學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6820.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6822.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
就有一個高中學生去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6821.79 |
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6823.79 |
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因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6823.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6825.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
學科成績當然受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6825.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6827.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
他畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6827.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6829.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
他可能超過跨課時數太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6829.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6831.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
這一個沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6831.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6833.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6833.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6835.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
我們現在要去 |
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6835.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6837.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
我們現在要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6837.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6839.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
我們現在要去 |
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6839.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6841.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
我們現在要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6841.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6843.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
我們現在要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6843.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6845.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
我們現在要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6845.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6847.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
我們現在要去 |
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6847.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6849.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
我們現在要去 |
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6849.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6851.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
我們現在要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6851.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6853.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
學科成績實數太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6853.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6855.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
這一個沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6855.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6857.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
有些學生就不在乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6857.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6859.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
他現在的所謂上場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6859.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6861.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
任何的教練比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6861.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6863.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
他不在乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6863.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6865.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
那我們要怎麼想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6865.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6867.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
我們要跟他願意受教的好學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6867.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6869.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
我們又要不得成主 |
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6869.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
又要維持自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6871.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6873.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
學校要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6873.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
一方面對學生不免日後又被批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6875.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
做這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6877.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
教學專業的一個輔導跟教導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6879.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6881.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
而且這裡邊我們也明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6881.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6883.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
這明文是不乏的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6883.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6885.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
部長我沒有要你跟我辯論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6885.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6887.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
你辯贏我也沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6887.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6889.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
我現在就問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6889.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6891.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
我們又要不得成主 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6891.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6893.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
又要維護秩序 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6893.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6895.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
我們到底要怎麼樣學校才可以好好的去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6895.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6897.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
我們又怕被批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6897.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6899.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
為放任缺課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6899.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6901.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
這樣的制度設計下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6901.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6903.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
我們教育部認為學校如何實際做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6903.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6905.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
報告中所說的兼顧學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6905.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6907.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6907.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6909.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
又支持教師輔導管教需求 |
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6909.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6911.47 |
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部長你教大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6911.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6913.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
在更一個現實的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6913.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6915.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
未來發生學生長期學課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6915.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6917.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
或者在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6917.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
6919.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
校園內外發生傷害的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
6919.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
6921.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
社會輿論第一個追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
6921.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
6923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
一定是學校為什麼沒有及早介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
6923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
6925.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
為什麼沒有採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
6925.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
6927.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
更積極的管理措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
6927.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
6929.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
所以今天我們在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
6929.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
6931.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
清水高級中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
6931.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
6933.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
發生的這個漢式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
6933.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
6935.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
我們都不捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
6936.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
6938.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
今天楊爸爸在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
6938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
6940.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
我們對於這些長期有問題的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
6940.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
6942.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
我們要怎麼樣實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
6942.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
6944.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
管教避免日後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
6944.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
6946.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
造成更大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
6946.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
6948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
部長出了事以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
6948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
6950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
教育部公開第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
6950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
6952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
替老師背書說他們依法行事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
6952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
6954.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
還是要回頭再檢討學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
6954.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
6956.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
機制不夠完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
6955.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
6957.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
報告中我們看到高關懷課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
6957.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
6959.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
對於高關懷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
6959.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
6961.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
違規情形重大的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
6961.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
6963.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
經學校相關會議議決後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
6963.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
6965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
以抽離式進行課程編班 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
6965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
6967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
如學生問題類型不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
6967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
6969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
以彈性分組教學模式安排課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
6969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
6971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
那請問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
6971.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
6973.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
面臨龐大的拒學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
6973.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
6975.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
拒絕學習喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
6975.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
6977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
還有情緒的困擾需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
6977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
6979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
現行的資源足夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
6979.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
6981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
我最後要問一句現在的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
6981.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
6983.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
不尊重時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
6983.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
6985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
不敬老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
6985.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
6987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
日後造成社會問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
6986.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
6988.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
會有整個社會一同承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
6988.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
6990.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
我們希望部長好好想一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
6990.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
6992.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
今天為什麼我會辦這個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
6992.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
6994.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
不只是家長不只是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
6994.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
6996.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
所有的委員大家都很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
6996.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
6998.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
也希望你能夠好好的檢討這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
6998.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7000.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
政策帶來的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7000.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7002.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
我們會跟家長團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7002.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7004.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
學生團體老師還有地方限制教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7004.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7006.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
整個來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7008.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7010.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
看怎麼樣有一個更以實具性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7010.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7012.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
這樣一個管教方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7012.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7014.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
我想我們一定是支持老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7014.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7016.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
這無庸置疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7016.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7018.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
我今天不只是用委員的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7018.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7020.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
我是用家長的身份在擔憂在跟你做溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7020.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7022.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
我希望你們真的好好想一想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7022.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
我同意老師現在面臨的挑戰確實是比以前大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7024.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
那我們一起來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7028.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7029.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7031.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
謝謝部長請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7032.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7034.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
謝謝陸章偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7048.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
好我們下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7049.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7051.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
柯森委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7055.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7057.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
好謝謝周偉我們是請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7057.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7059.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7064.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7066.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7065.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7067.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
部長今天題目非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7067.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7069.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
但是也都非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7069.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7071.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
但是時間非常的有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7071.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7073.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
我就延續剛剛羅章偉對於我們學生管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7073.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7075.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
還有包括我們校事會議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7075.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7077.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
我們再更精準的來問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7077.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7079.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7079.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7081.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
彭署長特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7081.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7083.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
我們在7月15號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7083.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7085.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
會對於校事會議的執行狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7085.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7087.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
部長會做出一個通和的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7087.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7089.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7089.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7091.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
所以你們現在已經有結論了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7091.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7093.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
剛才跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7093.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7095.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
我們這個委員會是一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7095.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7097.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
已經有報告了我們先看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7097.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7099.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
所以說目前為止在你們的閉門會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7099.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7101.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
當中你們顯然是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7101.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7103.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
要續推校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7103.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7105.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
但是就是校事團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7105.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7107.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
剛剛不管是我們剛剛有第一線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7107.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7109.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
老師來說他們當然希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7109.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7111.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
終極模擬是廢除但是很顯然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7111.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7113.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
你們是要維持校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7113.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7115.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
但是要讓各地方政府有調處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7115.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7117.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
機制這沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7117.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7119.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7119.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7121.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
地方政府調處的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7121.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7123.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
你們的部長的處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7123.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7125.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
還有局長都同意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7125.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7127.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
這是你們的共識嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7127.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7129.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
那為什麼我們在地方他們都認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7129.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7131.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
教育部應該讓他有個法律的位階 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7131.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7133.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
如果只是讓各地方來做調處的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7133.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7135.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
某種程度還是有非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7135.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7137.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7137.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7139.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
而且部長你上次還特別講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7139.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7141.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
很多時候就存有一些資訊的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7141.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7143.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
你們認為在1月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7143.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7145.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
其實已經做了非常多的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7145.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7147.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
包括匿名的處理等等之類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7147.19 |
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還有很多大小案的分流 |
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7151.19 |
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現在很多外界可能不太清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7151.19 |
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你可以問問一下所有在場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7153.19 |
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一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7155.19 |
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7157.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
他們認為如果資訊有些落差的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7157.19 |
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7159.19 |
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那一定是教育部的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7159.19 |
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7161.19 |
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沒有讓老師親自的一個理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7161.19 |
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7163.19 |
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而且最重要的是即使如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7163.19 |
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7165.19 |
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資訊很透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7165.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7167.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
但是老師在第一線仍然深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7167.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7169.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
感受教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7169.19 |
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7171.19 |
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會是他們永遠都會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7171.19 |
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7173.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
下一個會被送進去的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7173.19 |
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7175.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
所以還是沒有辦法解決他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7175.19 |
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7177.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7177.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7179.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
那怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
委員也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
他有他的時空上的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
特定的社會事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
所以才會1090 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
我懂部長我現在就要特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7192.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
現在也跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7192.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7194.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
因為你今天教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7194.55 |
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7196.55 |
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就是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7196.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7198.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
你還是要面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7198.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7200.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
老師這一個解辨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7200.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7202.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
沒有錯部長你拿到了一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7202.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7204.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
我們先把我們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7204.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7206.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
你講到一個很大的重點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7206.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7208.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
我們都維護學生百分之百的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7208.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7210.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7210.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7212.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
但是呢 教師會議如果只是單純處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7212.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7214.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
不適任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7214.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7216.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
而且非常嚴重的把他送進教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7216.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7218.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
沒有話講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7218.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7220.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
而且我們只要涉及教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7220.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7222.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
第14條到第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7222.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7224.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
你把他交給教師會議就處理就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7224.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
你現在最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
就是有一些班級精英 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7230.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
言語發生的侵蝕之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7230.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7234.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
全部把他送進教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7234.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
這才是個最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
所以你如果有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
其實從教育部的觀點我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7240.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7242.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
保護學生的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7242.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
我們更在意老師能不能安心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
去做好專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7248.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7248.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7250.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7250.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
有那麼多人的投訴家長都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7254.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
這老師不是任要解聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7254.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7256.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
所以我們才要前面分流說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7256.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
他沒有那麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
他只要老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7262.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
但是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7262.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7264.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
我也完全 我說實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7264.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7266.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
這教師會議不是在你任內搞出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7266.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7268.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
你現在就是要來收拾了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7268.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7270.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
這一點鬧議非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7270.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7272.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
覺得你也很委屈了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7272.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7274.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
我們就是要來解決事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7274.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7276.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
就像我來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7276.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7278.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
就像我剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7278.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7280.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
很多班級精英言語引發的誤解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7280.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7282.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
你是可以不用送進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7282.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7284.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
在過去的時候就是全部送進教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7284.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7286.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
你看有個最簡單的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7286.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7288.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
你在你的解聘辦法當做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7288.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7290.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
109年所公佈的只有3855個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7290.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7292.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
你知道113年你修正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7292.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7294.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
你增加到11696個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7294.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7296.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
洋洋灑灑的搞到校園裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7296.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7298.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
到今年你所修正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7298.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7300.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
次數更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7300.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7302.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
你反所有的部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7302.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7304.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
部長我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7304.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7306.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
你現在目前是匿名不受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7306.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7308.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
案件是有減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7308.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7310.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
但是校育現場的失序的混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7310.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7312.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
反檢舉必成案的陷阱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7312.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7314.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
很多時候還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7314.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7316.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
沒有辦法解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7316.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7318.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
監當小組整個就在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7318.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7320.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
不是教師的解聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7320.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7322.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
以前的就行屍有年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7322.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7324.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
就可以處理很多的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7324.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7326.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
現在我們要找一個最前面的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7326.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7328.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
然後大家已經雞飛狗跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7328.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7330.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
老師都不想留了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7330.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7332.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
你們又開始來告訴大家好我們來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7332.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7334.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
就來解決分流的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7334.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7336.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
就來解決我們有個調解的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7336.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7338.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
地方政府可以授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7338.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7340.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
你是中間已經耗了多少時間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7340.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7342.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
所有老師還待在這個地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7342.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7344.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
我都佩服他們的韌性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7342.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7344.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
部長難道不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7344.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7346.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
我們一夜通過的確實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7346.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7348.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
教育部怎麼樣來加強宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7348.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7350.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
還有22個地方縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7350.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7352.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
教育局處也怎麼樣去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7352.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7354.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
加強他們在地的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7354.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7356.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
你覺得到目前為止你做的這樣部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7356.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7358.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
就是我在等你7月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7358.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7360.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
完整的部分我只能告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7360.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7362.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
我們召集人台中市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7362.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7364.48 |
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校事會都減少了 |
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52% |
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7368.48 |
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你減少的部分 |
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你問在場的老師 |
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減少的部分是來自於 |
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老師根本就是根本不敢管 |
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不想管所以你的案件變慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
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變得減少真的是來自於 |
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數字的部分嗎你要看到數字背後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
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本質的問題老師不想管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
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7384.48 |
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不想得罪家長當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
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就沒有這些數字讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7386.48 |
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7388.48 |
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讓這整個校園變成什麼樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
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7390.48 |
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我想數字下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
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絕對不是個解放 |
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我同意不能直接用因果關係 |
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但是至少我們 |
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7398.48 |
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所有的data跟地方的 |
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7400.48 |
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一個座談它是往好的方向 |
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往好的方向 |
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7404.48 |
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就不會有一個鐵拳教育 |
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7406.48 |
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你發這麼多老師的患民 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
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7408.48 |
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第一線上的老師能夠 |
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7410.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
忍下來能夠安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
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如果是這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
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7414.48 |
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你真的也到各處去特別到彰化去 |
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7414.48 |
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7416.48 |
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你特別去問彰化教育處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7416.48 |
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問彰化的第一線老師 |
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7420.48 |
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你怎麼樣關心彰化沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
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我只是彰化我到金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7422.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7424.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
馬祖我到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7424.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7426.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
他們都有感受到校事會議的存在對老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7426.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7428.48 |
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真的是有覺得目前為止 |
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7430.48 |
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都不會是下一個嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7430.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7432.48 |
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你們問問第一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7432.48 |
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7434.48 |
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如果有的話我們這些老師就不會這麼沉重的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7434.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7436.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
更何況你剛所知道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7436.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7438.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
我們學生的初期管理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7438.48 |
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| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7440.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7442.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
這個部分的部分我們剛剛特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7442.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7444.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
周圍排的這個提案當然也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7444.48 |
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7446.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
根據我們目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
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7448.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
最有名的就是遲到被罰寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7448.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7450.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
然後要求償140萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7450.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7452.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
我想以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7452.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7454.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
教育的觀點來去看我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7454.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7456.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
教育部你們今天告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7456.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7458.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
報告當中你要持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7458.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7460.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
兼顧學生的權益支持老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7460.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7462.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
的輔導管教需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7462.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7464.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
我們一樣要問給老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7464.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7466.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
的所謂的感教需求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7466.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7468.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
底線到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7468.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7470.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
因為很多人會非常的擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7470.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
因為他們很擔心沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7474.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
而且張廖次長還特別說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7474.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
老師不需要懼怕對學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
正當的管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7480.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
老師不需要懼怕嗎你問在場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7480.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7482.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
老師現在就是非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7482.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7484.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
懼怕因為他們認為隨時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7484.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7486.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
做的哪一些的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7486.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7488.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
都有可能背訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7488.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7490.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
即使最後判他們一切無法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7490.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7492.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
無罪但是這整個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7492.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7494.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
的一個煎熬所以說大家就很 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7494.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7496.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
無奈而且剛有人提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7496.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7498.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
一個我們目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7498.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7500.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
高中職老師特別無奈他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7500.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7502.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
說目前為止畢業的下滑率 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7502.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7504.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
到90.3%沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7504.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7506.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
然後你告訴我們目前高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7506.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7508.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
生高中職有16510 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7508.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7510.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
個人是沒有拿到畢業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7510.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7512.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
可是你們告訴我們畢業不等於沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7512.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7514.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
完成高中學業你還是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7514.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7516.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
取得同等學歷去考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7516.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7518.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
而且你還可以再回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7518.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7520.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
高中你到了大學之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7520.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7522.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
你還是可以回到高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7522.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
有一位高中校長告訴我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7524.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7526.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
拿到高中畢業證書比拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7526.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7528.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
大學畢業證書還要困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7528.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7530.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
沒有人會再回來但是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7530.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7532.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
說實在的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7532.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7534.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
因為現在的很多的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7534.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
他即使放空他即使什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
都不做然後他沒有畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7538.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
他雖然可以往前走 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7540.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
但是這真的是我們教育的目的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
真的就是讓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
為了不敢管教不想管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
怕怒的所有其他的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7550.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
所以呢他乾脆全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7550.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7552.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
就把他的書交完然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7552.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
老師學生愛聽不聽隨便他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7554.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
反正沒有畢業證書他還可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
照樣往前走這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
真的到目前為止你認為教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
應該就是這樣子讓他自由放任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7562.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7564.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
完全不要讓老師有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7564.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7566.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
任何的這樣的管教權嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7566.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7568.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
部長這才是我們現在目前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7568.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
寬容成了我們台灣教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
慢性毒藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7574.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
這真的是一個校長非常非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7574.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7576.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
沉動的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7576.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7578.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
寬容成了我們台灣教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7578.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7580.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
慢性毒藥你看看 |
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7580.48 |
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7582.48 |
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不交作業缺考翹課 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7582.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7584.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
通知家長不來上課睡覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7584.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7586.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
拿不到畢業證書也不擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7586.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7588.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
這是我們目前的教育現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7588.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7590.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
部長這是我們要的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7591.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7593.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
當然不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7593.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7595.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
所以你給老師什麼樣的一個所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7595.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7597.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
大家所說的不要害怕去管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7597.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7599.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
老師能不害怕嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7599.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7601.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
你其實把數字降低了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7601.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7603.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
但是實質存在老師心裡的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7603.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7605.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
陰影隨時變成下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7605.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7607.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
可能會被調查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7607.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7609.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
這個問題沒有解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7609.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7611.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
部長如果你回到過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7611.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7613.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
不是任何老師用教師法這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7613.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7615.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
解聘的方法來所以這就是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7615.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7617.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
我們為什麼在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7617.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7619.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
要求把我們的解聘辦法退回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7619.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7621.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
修正的原因嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7621.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7623.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
你如果照你這個方法讓他過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7623.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7625.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
很多老師會跳腳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7625.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7627.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
所以你退回去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7627.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7629.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
如果以去年我進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7629.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7631.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
之前所有的這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7631.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7633.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
跟校園的執行情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7633.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7635.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
我告訴跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7635.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7637.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
如果沒有今天的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7637.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7639.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
只有更慘烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7639.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7641.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
誰造成這種慘烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7641.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7643.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
我們以前教育沒有這麼慘烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7643.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7645.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
因為藍蘇因為不具名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7645.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7647.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
很多的這些違反民主法制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7647.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7649.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
為什麼我們現在要討論到具名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7649.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7651.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
不具名這麼細節的技術問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7651.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7653.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
這只是我們在老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7653.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7655.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
他被告的時候你現在用一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7655.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7657.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
技術性的方法讓他比手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7657.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7659.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
但是更前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7659.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7661.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
我要討論一個綜合性的問題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7661.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7663.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
學校裡邊因為發生了這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7663.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7665.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
不幸的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7665.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7667.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
老師被社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7667.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7669.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
認為私私相護 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7669.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7671.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
連台中市政府要介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7671.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7673.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
都不得其辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7673.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
所以才會有這樣的一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7677.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
部長 我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7677.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7679.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
但是你有沒有覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7679.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7681.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
為了這件事情我們也不希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7681.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
從有慘事發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7685.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
為了這件事情引發更大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7685.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
一個機制出來之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7687.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7689.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
引發更大老師的這個恐慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7689.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
跟反彈你還是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
這個校事會的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
有解決問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7697.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
希望能夠贏善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7697.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
更友善的校園其實一定要合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
好 我最後問一句 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7703.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
部長 所以校事會議廢除時你還是你最終的目標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7704.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7706.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
這當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
如果他能夠回到正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
當親師合作 老師學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7711.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7713.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
家長大家彼此信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7713.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7715.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
能夠有一個更好的學習環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7715.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7717.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
我相信沒有人會反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7717.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7719.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
這時候就回到專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7719.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
校教評會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7721.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7723.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
針對不適任老師去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7723.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7725.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
所以目前來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7725.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7727.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
沒有辦法回到專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7727.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7729.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
教評會就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7729.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7731.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
還有很多更嚴重的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7731.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7733.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
來處理 是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7733.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7735.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
然後呢 所以說你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7735.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7737.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
所要降低我幫你釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7737.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7739.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
所以你現在要降低的就是有關親師之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7739.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7741.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
管教問題 在裡面的問題裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7741.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7743.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
你就不要再讓他進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7743.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
校事會議嘛 再可以做得到嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7745.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
對不對 只有一些非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7747.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
嚴重不適任的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7749.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
我們現在所要的奴役跟委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7751.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
我們現在所要的奴役跟委員所提的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7753.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
就可以這樣子嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7755.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
這個部分你要堅守住可是我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7757.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7759.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
聽聽地方老師的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7759.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7761.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
如果這個地方沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7761.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7763.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
辦法好好的讓老師覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7763.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7765.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
他的糾結權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7765.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7767.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
是可以受到保障的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7767.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7769.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
很多家長無理的這個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7769.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
是可以讓學校可以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
低階做處理的 我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7775.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
老師的恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7775.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7777.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
劉布主老師還是會繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7777.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
持續下去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7779.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7781.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
我這兩年一直在地方跑就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7781.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
傾聽家長的聲音 老師的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7783.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7785.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
我也希望各種團體的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7785.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7787.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
能夠讓學校能夠更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7787.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7789.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
我想這是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7789.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7791.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
一次性的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7791.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7793.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
我們就來看看在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7793.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7795.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
可以如何能夠回到我們最專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7795.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7797.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
最後我還是利用時間來問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7797.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7799.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
有關我們教育經費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7799.96 |
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7801.96 |
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你也很清楚求不能求孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7801.96 |
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7803.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
這一部分我比較遺憾的地方就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7803.96 |
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7805.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
才華法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7805.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7807.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
修法之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7807.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7809.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
很多的錢是下放給地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7809.96 |
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7811.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
但是呢這個部分來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7811.96 |
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7813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
中央是減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7813.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7815.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
3753億的收入喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7815.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7817.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
按比例來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7817.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7819.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
我們教育經費的分擔只要減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7819.96 |
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7821.96 |
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155億就可以了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7821.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7823.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
但是總計數硬要減少500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7823.96 |
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7825.96 |
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你就是告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7825.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7827.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
有345億的教育經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7827.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7829.96 |
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是超減的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7829.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
是超減的 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7831.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7833.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
怎麼可以用這個方法來這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7833.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
對我們的教育經費做這樣的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7835.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7837.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
所以我們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7837.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7839.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
跟所有的很多的民間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7839.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7841.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
教育團體來大聲的幾乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7841.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
我們應該明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7843.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7845.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
分擔12.9%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7845.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
底線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
你們教育部不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7851.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
拿財政紀律法來當擋箭牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7851.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
因為你是超減300多億喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
你要根據它 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
12.9%是不受任何法令來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
是這樣的 你不要拿這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
12.9%是我們的底線 有沒有辦法做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
跟委員報告喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
我們現在在努力的就是我們把財化法以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
中央包含行政一般 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
講補助有關教育這一個區塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
到地方去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
還有教育部這一塊到地方去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
我們希望把它如列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
讓地方縣市教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
能夠根據這個跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
我只告訴你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
但是董事長我就告訴你嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
因為原來它用來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
中央支持地方的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
7889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
當然你放回教育到地方去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
7889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
7891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
很清楚幫你算出來了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
7891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
7893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
你大概只要減少155億就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
7893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
7895.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
目前為止我們減到500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
7895.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
7897.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
我就跟你說你超減 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
7897.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
7899.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
我的底線很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
7899.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
7901.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
守住12.9%的一個底線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
7901.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
7903.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
因為財政紀律法在第七條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
7903.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
7905.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
你們常常拿出法 法律可以修 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
7905.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
7907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
7907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
7909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
教育紀律法的第七條不是財政憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
7909.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
7911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
它是一部普通法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
7911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
7913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
所以不能凌駕於其他法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
7913.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
7915.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
更不能阻止立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
7915.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
7917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
來做這樣一個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
7917.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
7919.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
所以我今天特別提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
7919.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
7921.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
任何保障教育經費比例的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
7921.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
7923.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
一概不得於來做這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
7923.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
7925.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
並沒有規定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
7925.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
7927.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
它並沒有這樣 所以部長請你看清楚喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
7927.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
7929.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
不應該是拒絕說法的一個藉口 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
7929.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
7931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
我現在只是很卑微的希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
7931.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
7933.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
擋住12.9% |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
7933.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
7935.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
我想教育經費的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
7935.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
7937.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
跟我們的目標是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
7937.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
7939.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
其實以前大家修財法法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
7939.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
7941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
不管中央跟地方怎麼拼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
7941.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
7943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
整個12.9%的底線 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
7943.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
7945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
還是要求中央應該來分擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
7945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
7947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
部長你就應該好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
7947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
7949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
跟行政院表達我們教育部的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
7949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
7951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
這些部分不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
7951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
7953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
轉嫁給地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
7953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
7955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
我還是強調減收300多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
7955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
7957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
這個部分是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
7957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
7959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
你應該替我們守住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
7959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
7961.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
不要每次都拿財化法來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
7961.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
7963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
財化法有很大的細緻 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
7963.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
7965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
地方縣市教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
7965.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
7967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
能夠一起合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
7967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
7969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
我們希望把這些的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
7969.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
7971.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
所有的資源能夠用在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
7971.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
7973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
該用在教育的不要被挪到其他地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
7973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
7975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
這是我們共同的目標 我剛剛調略了非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
7975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
7977.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
所以希望部長能夠大家共同來配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
7977.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
7979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
不要什麼事情都拿財化法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
7979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
7981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
然後把一箭打下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
7981.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
7983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
好像財化法是萬惡不赦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
7983.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
7985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
一來我們地方都沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
7985.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
7987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
我們是擔心原來屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
7987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
7989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
中央補助支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
7989.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
7991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
地方的教育經費不要被拿到其他地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
7991.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
7993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
當然是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
7993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
7995.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
所以你要把餅做大嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
7995.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
7997.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
12.9胖的部分裡面把它守住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
7997.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
7999.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
我們就可以守住 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
7999.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
目前來說我們還少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8001.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
356億 這點是要特別告訴部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8003.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8005.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8007.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8009.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
好 謝謝 請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8015.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8017.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
下一位陳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8021.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8023.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8025.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
那有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
當然楊雲委員被擋在外面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
才猛然的發現說天吶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
國民黨的計算公式有誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
導致於陳雪生跟陳玉真所負責的金門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
跟馬祖受到非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8072.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
非常嚴重的財務資源的排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8072.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8074.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
所以國民黨又荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8074.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8076.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
再提出自己的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8076.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8078.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
我要說目前新版的財化法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8078.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
它就是在一個沒有中央政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
跟地方政府好好溝通的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
在野黨硬行通過的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8086.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
結果行政院所有部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8086.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8088.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
幫忙忙著擦屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8088.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8090.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
所以編出了到現在還躺在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8090.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
立法院的預算 我的背景說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8094.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
是不是非常清楚 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8094.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
所以也就是說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8098.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
我們今天躺在桌上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8098.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8100.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
所有國民黨委員提案的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8100.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8102.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
包含教育經費編列的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8102.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8104.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
不論是基金或者是明白的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8104.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8106.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
寫出水電費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8106.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8108.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
或者是營養午餐的國產食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8108.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8110.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
這些都必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8110.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
透過修法要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8114.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
教育部要保障這個經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8114.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8116.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
而且要教育部買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8116.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8118.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
我會說在我剛說明的前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8118.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8120.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
我認為非常的不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8120.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
尤其水電費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8124.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
如果我們按照地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8124.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8126.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
第18條跟第19條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8126.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8128.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
這些各級學校的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8128.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8130.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
跟自治事項是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8130.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8132.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
歸地方政府所主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8132.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
所以包含各個地方現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
不論是候選人或是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
已經在當縣市首長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8140.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
這些人他們承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8140.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8142.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
要營養午餐買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8142.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8144.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
要給學生喝鮮奶喝豆漿 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8144.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8146.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
我認為所有照顧學生的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8146.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8148.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
我們當然全力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8148.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8150.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
可是如果沒有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8150.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8152.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
各個地方財力的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8152.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
甚至大開支票之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
現在回過頭來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8158.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
縮減了地方教育的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8158.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8160.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
甚至有所排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8160.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8162.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
在很多地方政府其實議員可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8162.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8164.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
要資料都要不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8164.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8166.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
而當現在國民黨委員在中央的立法院提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8166.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8168.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
要求教育部為水電費買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8168.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8170.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
為營養午餐買單的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8170.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8172.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
我會說請問教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8172.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8174.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
你們如何跟地方政府溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8174.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8176.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
不能地方政府大開政治支票 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8176.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8178.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
但是卻要教育部買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8178.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8180.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
而且前提是在一個不平等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8180.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8182.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
才華法修法的情況底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8182.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8184.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
來 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8186.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
各位確實因為當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8188.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
才華法以後這些水電費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8190.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
營養午餐 學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8192.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
的補助三張EQ等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8194.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
都已經都下到地方去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8197.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
所以從教育部的一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8199.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
我們當然希望能夠以後能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8201.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
這一個督促這些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8203.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
到地方去 地方應該善用這些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
確保這一個各種政策推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
一個教育品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
我想這是我們未來積極跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
合作要來提醒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8216.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
而且我覺得要強力的提醒跟討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8216.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8218.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
如果沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8218.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8220.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
但是最後卻透過在立法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8220.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
強行的非常惡修法的這個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8223.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8226.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
我認為對於中央教育部非常的不公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8226.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8228.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
也會排擠到教育部的其他預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8228.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8230.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
同時我要說現在委員的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8230.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
甚至提出要設立基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
但是一旦設計到基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
我會說他沒有說所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
自籌裁員關於這個基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
到底要如何成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
成立之後錢要從哪裡來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
其實也沒有說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8245.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
這個在財政紀律法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8245.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8246.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
我認為也是不允許的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8246.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8248.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
我不確定目前教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8248.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8250.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
跟相關的委員溝通的進度是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8252.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8253.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
關於基金的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8253.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8254.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
柯志銘委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8256.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
他要設立基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8258.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8262.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
那我會說目前按照他們提案的草案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8262.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8264.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
他根本沒有提出新增適當的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8264.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8266.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
但是卻要要求教育部去設立基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8266.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8267.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
以法來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8267.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
他不需要新增的非公部門裡邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8273.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
這一盒預算的金會裡邊來編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8273.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8275.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
所以我覺得這個部分也要溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8275.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8276.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
雖然今天只有詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8276.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8279.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
但是我們看到所有這些提案的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8279.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8282.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
如果最後所有的事情都要問責於教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8282.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
那我就問地方政府對於中學還有小學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8289.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
他們在地治法裡面所必去承擔的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8289.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8290.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
卻沒有去承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8290.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8292.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
我覺得這個會非常非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8292.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
甚至我認為教育部的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8294.16 |
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8295.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
如果因此受到排擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8295.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8297.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
那其實是所有的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8297.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8298.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
所有的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8298.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8299.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
所有的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8299.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8300.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
親師生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8300.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8302.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
大家共同承擔這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8302.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8304.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
當年國民黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8304.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8306.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
把民進黨的委員擋在門外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8306.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8308.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
惡修才化法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8308.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8310.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
這個後果其實是全民都在承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8310.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8312.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
尤其是教育這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8312.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8314.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
所以我要拜託教育部積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8314.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8316.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
當然今天只有詢答沒有處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8316.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8318.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
可是在後續處理之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8318.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8320.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
我認為教育部必須要先行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8320.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8323.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
跟相關提案的委員做溝通跟做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8323.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8326.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
當然地方政府目前如何在他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8326.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8328.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
新年度的預算當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8328.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
去處理相關的教育費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8330.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
我認為教育部也要去收集資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8332.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
不能政治支票開出去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8334.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
政治紅利都歸他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8336.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8338.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
但是最後要教育部買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8338.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8341.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
我再次強調非常不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
好 部長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
是的 我也跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
因為確實當這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
不管基於什麼原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8351.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
對學童的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8351.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
這個飲食的一個照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8355.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
但是我們也從地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8355.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8357.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
像去這個上個禮拜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8357.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
這個全國教育局處首長會議裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8363.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
也確實有教育局處首長這個反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8363.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
因為這個免費的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8367.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
已經造成縣市內的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8367.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8369.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
教育經會上推動的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8369.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
這一個景措就是有排擠的一個效益出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8375.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
那所以在這裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8375.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8379.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
怎麼樣讓地方真正的許多的教育資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8379.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8381.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
能夠妥善的用在孩子的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8381.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8383.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
學校教育的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8383.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8385.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
老師的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8385.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8387.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
我想我們會跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8387.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8389.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
有一個更積極的來這一個協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8389.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8391.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
看怎麼樣有一個訊息能夠更公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8391.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8395.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
而且在政策上能夠有更充分的價值的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8395.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8397.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
好 那部長請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8397.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8399.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
好 那部長請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8399.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8401.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
在開完教育局處首長會議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8401.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8403.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
不知道你們是不是有討論到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8403.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8405.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
營養午餐轉法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8405.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
因為羅廷瑋朝偉今天下午要排 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
關於這個部分的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8411.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
其實上一次我們就已經有討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8411.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8413.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
到底地方教育局處首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8413.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8417.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
他們所呈現出來在營養午餐轉法的態度是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8417.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8419.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
因為原來的裝潢資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8419.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8421.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
一直沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8421.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8423.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
也感謝委員的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8423.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8425.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
這一個諒解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8425.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8427.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
讓我們跟地方有更多的充分的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8427.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8431.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
溝通交換意見的一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8431.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
那這些年來確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8433.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
地方因為人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8435.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
因為編制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8437.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
因為經費上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8439.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8441.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
各個縣市的一個樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8441.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8443.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
包含偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8443.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8445.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
它確實是存有許多的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8445.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8447.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
所以比較沒有辦法有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8447.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8449.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
那在這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8449.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8451.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
當22個地方縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8451.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8453.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
都全部把它宣示為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8453.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8455.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
免費營養午餐的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8455.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8457.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
我想從教育部的一個立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8457.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8459.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
我們就是怎麼樣讓學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8459.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8461.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
能夠吃得健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8461.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8463.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
吃得安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8463.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8465.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
這裡邊我們從一個更高的一個位階來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8465.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8467.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
這個協助地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8467.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8469.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
做好這個食安的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8469.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8471.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
這個品質的一個管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8471.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8473.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8473.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8475.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
這是我們未來的一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8475.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8477.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
好 因為今天下午就要處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8477.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8479.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
我還是要先行點出一些困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8479.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8481.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
也讓部長參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8481.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8483.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
我已經在7月的會議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8483.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8485.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
我們收集到這些訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8485.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8487.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
我舉一個例子 當台北市的一餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8487.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8489.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
可能是70塊到80塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8489.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8491.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
可是到了台中可能價格又不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8491.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8493.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
到台南到高雄甚至到屏東 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8493.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8495.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
花蓮台東 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8495.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8497.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
就像部長說的22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8497.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8499.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
現在所有的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8499.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8501.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
的甲方全部都是地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8501.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8503.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
政府而費用又有如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8503.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
的差異的時候我會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
到底這個費用的差異是反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8509.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
了食材的差異還是反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8509.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8511.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
反應了人事成本的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8511.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8513.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
還是反應了城鄉差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8513.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8515.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
如果地方政府都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8515.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8517.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
把相關的數字如實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8517.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8519.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
告訴教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8519.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8521.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
未來如果家長發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8522.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8524.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
營養午餐是如此的不平等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8524.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8526.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
我們未來可能會再度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8526.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8528.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
看到在花蓮的孩子的餐桌上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8528.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8530.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
跟在台北孩子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8530.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8532.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
餐桌上會有非常大的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8532.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8534.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
甚至我講一個更可怕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8534.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8536.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
未來在花蓮的孩子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8536.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8538.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
營養午餐的廚餘桶裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8538.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8540.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
我們所看到的差異也會跟台北的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8540.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8542.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
孩子差很多 目前我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8542.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
甚至有六都裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8544.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8546.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
某一個縣市我就不說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8546.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8548.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
它標榜要讓他們的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8548.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8550.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
吃全台灣的海鮮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8550.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8552.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
全台灣的國產食材 這當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8552.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8554.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
不是壞事 可是如果這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8554.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8556.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
只是為了政治紅利而不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8556.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8558.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
考慮這些食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8558.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8560.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
到底適不適合放入營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8560.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8562.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
我會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8562.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8564.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
它最後會變成廚餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8564.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8566.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
最後我們台灣的營養午餐的廚餘桶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8566.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8568.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
會變成滿是國產 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8568.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8570.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
高級食材的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8570.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8572.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
營養午餐廚餘桶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8572.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8574.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
而這個事情不能只是讓地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8574.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8576.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
教育局處跟部長喊窮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8576.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8578.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
跟部長說我們要錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8578.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8580.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
然後甚至是讓他們的國民黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8580.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8582.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
在立法院提案修法 要部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8582.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8584.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
買單 我覺得這非常非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8584.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8586.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
所以這些營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8586.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8588.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
我光是舉出費用這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8588.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8590.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
的困境 我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8590.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8592.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
部長你應該要往下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8592.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8594.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
跟地方政府好好處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8594.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8596.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
他們不能報喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8596.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8598.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
不報憂 他們不能把鍋都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8598.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8600.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
甩給你 然後要你全部買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8600.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8602.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
我會說這非常非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8602.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8604.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
還有現在所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8604.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8606.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
營養午餐的裁員不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8606.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
食材出現了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8608.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8610.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
廚工的費用 還有所有的人事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8610.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8612.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
的費用 還有甚至午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8612.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8614.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
秘書 還有營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8614.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8616.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
目前就算在專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8616.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8618.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
裡面 未來我們要去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8618.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8620.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
我都不知道因地制宜要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8620.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8622.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
而且現在我再次說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8622.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8624.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
費用是地方政府要出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8624.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8626.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
而未來地方政府會不會因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8626.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8628.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
想要負擔食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8628.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8630.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
所以把營養師的扣打降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8630.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8632.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
把無密的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8632.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8634.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
壓到學校老師的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8634.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8636.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
甚至讓老師無償 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8636.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
的幫忙做這個事情 部長你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8638.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8640.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
無密的工作有多麼繁雜嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8640.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8642.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
所以我會說地方政府不能再 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8642.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
做這樣的事情 真的必須要做下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8646.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
好好跟地方政府溝通 還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8646.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
我們在修專法的時候也必須要考慮到這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8648.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
情況 再來現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
因為營養午餐它的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
過去在沒有專法之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8656.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
它其實是地方政府的行政選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8656.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8658.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
而在學校裡面我們也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8658.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
用代辦費來幫孩子們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8662.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
處理這個收費 也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8662.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
如果這些本質上的事情都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8666.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
處理 我真的不知道我們今天下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8666.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8668.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
要怎麼修專法 當然我希望下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8668.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8670.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
署長 國家署長你可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8670.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8672.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
跟全體的委員做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8672.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8674.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
到底你們在相關的局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8674.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8676.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
會議中 有哪些事情大家已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8676.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8678.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
有共識 而有哪些事情大家還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8678.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8680.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
共識必須要再積極討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8680.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8682.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
我也要先公開請求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8682.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8684.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
羅庭委員 下午在主持會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8684.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8686.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
我們上次沒有機會讓署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8686.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8688.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
好好的說 這一次我已經先具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8688.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8690.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
就提出了這些問題 更不要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8690.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8692.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
下午的營養午餐版本可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8692.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8694.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
有二三十個 大家對於費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8694.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8696.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
的分擔 對於成本 對於國產 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8696.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8698.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
食材 對於很多很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8698.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8700.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
事情的指引其實都沒有一個定見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8700.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8702.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
跟沒有共識喔 還有我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8703.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8705.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
現在國產食材這件事情我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8705.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8707.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
是最大的困境 署長我跟你報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8707.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8709.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
在蘇貞昌院長的時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8709.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8711.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
因為我們希望照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8711.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8713.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
國產食材 照顧更多的小農 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8713.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8715.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
我們希望讓孩子的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8715.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8717.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
大量的採用國產食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8717.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8719.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
所以當時教育部給了補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8719.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8721.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
行政院給了補助 可是如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8721.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8723.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
未來錢回到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
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必須要出 會不會他們 |
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8725.86 |
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8727.86 |
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就從國產食材這件事情去擠壓 |
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相關的成本 |
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8731.86 |
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然後讓孩子可能吃到更多進口 |
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食材 可是荒謬的是 |
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8735.86 |
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這樣的進口食材可能更是 |
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8735.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8737.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
國民黨立法委員們可能還要在相關 |
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8737.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8739.86 |
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的食安法裡面去修 要求 |
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8739.86 |
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8741.86 |
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地方要用國產食材 那我就 |
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8741.86 |
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8743.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
問 當有人說要 |
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8743.86 |
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8745.86 |
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這樣修法 99%都要是 |
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8745.86 |
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8747.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
國產食材 必須是現在制度 |
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8747.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8749.86 |
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規格 可是地方政府又不願花錢 |
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8749.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8751.86 |
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買單的時候 我真的不知道 |
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8751.86 |
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8753.86 |
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立了那個法跟實際上行政執行 |
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8755.86 |
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的困境落差會在哪裡 |
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8755.86 |
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8757.86 |
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會不會到最後所有的困境 |
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8757.86 |
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8759.86 |
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一樣 還是我們的學生在承擔喔 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8761.86 |
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部長我只是舉了這麼多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8761.86 |
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8763.86 |
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我希望我們在下午討論營養午餐的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8763.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8765.86 |
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可以針對這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8765.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8767.86 |
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讓部長跟署長好好的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8767.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8769.86 |
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好來部長可以請您簡單回應一下嗎 |
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8770.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8772.87 |
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我想確實怎麼樣確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8772.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8776.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
這個學童能夠吃的新鮮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8776.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8778.87 |
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吃的安全 吃的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8778.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8780.87 |
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這個大家的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
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目標都是一致的 |
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那所以過去這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
也透過這個平台 |
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8788.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
裡面 我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8788.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8790.87 |
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這個國產豬大概有 |
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99.9% |
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| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8794.87 |
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都是用了國產食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8794.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8796.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
我們在平台上都登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8796.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8798.87 |
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的非常清楚 包含 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8800.87 |
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這一次的一個食品安全 |
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8800.87 |
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8802.87 |
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我們能夠快速在這個平台裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8802.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8804.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8804.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
去找到這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8806.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8808.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
那我想在未來我們中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8808.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8810.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
跟地方一定要來共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8810.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8812.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
協力來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8812.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
好那最後再給我一點時間喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8814.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8816.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
謝謝主席 關於今天要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8816.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8818.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
關於校事會議的部分喔 剛剛我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8818.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8820.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
很多委員都已經表達了態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8820.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8822.87 |
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但是我要說 在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8822.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
目前我們在談這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
因為教育部現在送進來在各位委員手上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
版本其實是送立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
被查 那立法委員在什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8832.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
時候可以處理這個被查的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8832.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
如果按照立院職權行使法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8836.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
第62條 就是當我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8836.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8838.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
發現你們送進來的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8838.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8840.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
一 他有違母法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8840.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8842.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
跟母法有非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8842.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8844.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
漢格的時候 有非常大 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8844.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8846.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
荒謬錯誤的時候 立法院這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8846.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8848.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
可以要求退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8848.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8850.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
教育部 我們會要求你們更正或是要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8850.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8852.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
你們撤銷 就是當他有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8852.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8854.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
違反母法的時候 可是現在我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8854.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8856.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
教育部送進來的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8856.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8858.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
是針對 是在1月的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8858.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8860.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
針對相關的部分進行修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8860.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8862.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
而我們來回憶一下這個修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8862.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
最早是因為教師法在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8866.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
108年進行的修法 所以在109年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8866.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
把相關校事會議的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8868.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
提出來 所以回過頭來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8870.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
我不知道等一下我們在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8872.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8874.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
要處理的 到底是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8874.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8876.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
教育部今年在1月修法這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8876.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8878.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
送進立法院的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8878.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8880.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
我們覺得立法有立法委員覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8880.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8882.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
教育部版本出現了錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8882.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8884.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
還是大家根本要去否決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8884.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8886.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
109年校事會議的提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8886.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8888.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
甚至回溯到108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8888.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
因為要處理非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8892.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
不適任教師 而提出的教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8892.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
修法 我發現有法理上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8894.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
8896.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
一層一層往上推的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
8896.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
8898.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
我不確定教育部知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
8898.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
8900.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
等一下我們在教務委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
8900.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
8902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
後續如果要處理校事會議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
8902.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
8904.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
會發生哪些法理上層次的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
8904.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
8906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
但我就先提出來 這是一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
8906.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
8908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
再來 我非常認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
8908.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
8910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
我之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
8910.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
8912.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
從3年前進到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
8912.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
8914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
我就一直在跟教育部講一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
8914.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
8916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
我也不確定教育部現在的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
8916.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
8918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
但是我相信是在場大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
8918.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
8920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
共同的共識 就是要解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
8920.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
8922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
親師生的衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
8922.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
8924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
不能把所有的工作都壓在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
8924.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
8926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
學校老師身上 我當時就一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
8926.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
8928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
告訴部長 我們最關鍵是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
8928.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
8930.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
如果沒有處理家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
8930.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
8932.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
如果沒有處理家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
8932.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
8934.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
如果沒有因地制宜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
8934.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
8936.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
去處理家庭教育 其實所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
8936.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
8938.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
困境 所有的痛苦 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
8938.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
8940.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
是教育部的教師在承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
8940.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
8942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
是行政人員在承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
8942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
8944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
是所有在學校好好上課的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
8944.87 |
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8946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
孩子在承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
8946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
8948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
而所有我們發現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
8948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
8950.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
濫俗的狀況當中 確實有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
8950.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
8952.87 |
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是因為家庭教育出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
8952.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
8954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
那家庭教育出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
8954.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
8956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
過去相關在教育部的費用裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
8956.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
8958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
是歸中生教育司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
8958.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
8960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
而中生教育司我們發現這連續3年來相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
8960.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
8962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
預算 不論是因為受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
8962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
8964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
菜畫法沒有提升 還是過去可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
8964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
8966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
不在部長您的政策視野當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
8966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
8968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
所以說家庭教育現在是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
8968.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
8970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
認為最有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
8970.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
8972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
逐步化減校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
8972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
8974.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
親師生衝突 教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
8974.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
8976.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
必須要開始施力的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
8976.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
8978.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
唯有把家庭教育這一塊的量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
8978.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
8980.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
跟資源提升上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
8980.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
8982.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
才有可能間接的減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
8982.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
8984.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
學校老師在面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
8984.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
8986.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
家長的壓力 甚至未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
8986.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
8988.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
不論是第三方也好 甚至我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
8988.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
8990.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
更勇敢的去想像一個雙導師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
8990.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
8992.87 |
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的狀況 去減少老師的行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
8992.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
8994.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
負擔 減少老師的教學負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
8994.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
8996.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
減少老師的親師生溝通的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
8996.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
8998.87 |
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我認為都是教育部未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
8998.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9000.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
要去想像跟考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9000.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9002.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
如何更加協助學校老師這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9002.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9004.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
同時我也要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9004.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9006.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
校師會議這件事情的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9006.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9008.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
如果現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9008.87 |
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9010.87 |
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真的如同很多老師所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9010.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9012.87 |
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是老師在承擔 但我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9012.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9014.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
我也要再次提醒所有的委員跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9014.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9016.87 |
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部長 其實很多家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9016.87 |
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9018.87 |
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也在承擔這個困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9018.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9020.87 |
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他們可能也真的很想要好好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9020.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9022.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
做家庭教育 但是面對數位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9022.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9024.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
時代的孩子 面對不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9024.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9026.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
典範時代的 典範在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9026.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9028.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
做轉移的這個時代 其實很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9028.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9030.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
老師他面對教學方法也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9030.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9032.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
班級經營也好 親師生溝通也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9032.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9034.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
他們也更需要教育部的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9034.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9036.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
而學生也是 家長也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9036.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9038.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
所以拜託未來 我當然看到在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9038.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9040.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
教育部相關資料裡面有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9040.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9042.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
會健全家庭教育 但我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9042.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9044.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
這應該是未來部長您 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9044.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9046.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
重要的施政方向 如何讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9046.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9048.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
家庭教育的量能提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9048.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9050.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
讓老師有感 讓家長有感 讓學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9050.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9052.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
有感 我認為是部長未來您 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9052.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9054.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
非常重大的考驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9054.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9058.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
好 以上我是不是讓部長簡單回應一下家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9058.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9060.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
謝謝委員 我想我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9060.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9062.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
校事會議這個送 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9062.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9064.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
這個大宴備查 當然也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9064.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9066.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
希望能夠 我們委員能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9066.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9068.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
給我們一些指正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9068.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9070.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
假設我們有一些法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9070.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9072.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
上或者有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9072.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9074.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
自愛難行或者違反這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9074.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9076.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
法令的一個本意精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9076.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9078.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
我想我們都樂意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9078.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9080.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
這一個來從善如流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9080.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9082.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
那剛才委員特別提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9082.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9084.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
這個親師合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9084.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9086.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
這確實也是我們這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9088.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9090.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
應該說從開始在思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9090.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9092.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
校事會議怎麼調整我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9092.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9094.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
跟地方的一個座談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9094.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9096.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
裡面看到這個親師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9096.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9098.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
一定程度上的一個緊張 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9098.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9100.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
怎麼樣去讓親師合作才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9100.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9102.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
真正維護到小孩子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9102.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
學生的受教權 這確實是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
未來應該更積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
加強的一個重點 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
以上謝謝部長 謝謝主席 有點超過時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9112.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9114.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9114.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9116.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
委員謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9117.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9119.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
稍後再 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9118.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9120.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
院支委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9120.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9122.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
尋答完畢後 休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9125.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9127.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
現在有請院支委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9138.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
主席好 麻煩請部長 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9140.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9142.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9148.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
部長好 首先我非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9152.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
先跟召委感謝一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9152.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9154.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
今天特別有排 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9154.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
我的提案 就是國民轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9158.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
教育條例草案 這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9158.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9160.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
就是安心上學法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9160.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9162.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
我先講一下 我們當初提這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9162.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9164.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
案子最主要想要解決校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9164.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9166.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
安全的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9166.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9168.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
因為像幾年前在新北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9168.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9170.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
發生了土城的割井案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9170.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9172.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
還有我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9172.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9174.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
前一段時間也有新北市另外一個國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9174.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9176.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
有學生拿著呂棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9176.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9178.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
往另外一個學生的頭上敲下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9178.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9180.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
那個聲音非常清脆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9180.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9182.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
一不小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9182.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9184.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
可能就有生命的危險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9184.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9186.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
昨天我在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9186.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9188.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
也看到一個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9188.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9190.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
是好幾個學生在打架 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9190.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9192.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
打得非常兇狠 然後老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9192.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9194.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
要去勸架 老師完全都沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9194.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9196.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
甚至於其他學生還說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9196.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9198.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
老師小心 像這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9198.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9200.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
一個危險的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9200.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9202.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
在校園裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9202.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9204.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
其實如果只要一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9204.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9206.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
有一個的話 整個全校都會非常害怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9208.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9210.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
那我們為了要保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9210.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9212.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
善良的學生 我們為了要保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9212.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9214.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
老師能夠在學校好好的教書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9214.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9216.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
我們為了要保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9216.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9218.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
所有想要上課的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9218.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9220.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
在學校可以好好的上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9220.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9222.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
我覺得如果有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9222.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
特別危險的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9226.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
學生 比如說平常帶刀上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9226.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9228.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
比如說對其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9228.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9230.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
師生有生命安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9230.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
這一種學生 我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
要有一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9236.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
透過專家評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9236.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9238.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
強制他轉學 轉學到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9238.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9240.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
這個教育部另外設立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9240.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9242.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
專屬學校 而且加強資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9242.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9244.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
我覺得這個是為了要解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9244.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9246.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
教育現場現在失序的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9246.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9248.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
但很遺憾喔 看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9248.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9250.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
教育部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9250.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9252.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
完全都是用負面的角度來解讀這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9253.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9255.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
講了一個東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9255.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
說應該要行政先行 去標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9259.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
什麼叫行政先行 去標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9259.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9261.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9262.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9264.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
標籤化就是司法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9264.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9266.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
然後說在司法介入之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9266.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9268.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
應該要由教育 社政等行政體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9268.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9270.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
優先提供關懷與輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9270.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9272.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
避免兒少因為偏差的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9272.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9274.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
直接進入到司法程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9274.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9276.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
而承受負面標籤 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9276.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9278.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
Bia |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
其實你如果說用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
教育部你現在在報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9284.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
所提出來的那些所謂的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9284.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9286.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
比如說叫他上高關懷課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9286.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9288.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
比如說叫他去中途學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9288.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9290.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
這就給他標籤化了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9290.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
這就是標籤化了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
第二個行政先行就是沒有用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
現在教育部要去思考的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
怎麼樣在你所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
在加害的同學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
去標籤化的這個利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
以及教學秩序的這個利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
兩個出去平衡哪個重要嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9308.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
因為你不想要讓加害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9308.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
有標籤化 所以整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
教育市場就失序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
然後學生就應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9314.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9316.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
受害 你知道像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9316.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
一個學校只要有一個我剛剛講的那種學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9318.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
他怎麼樣才可以離開教學現場嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9320.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9322.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
有人被殺啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9324.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9326.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
有人受害啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9327.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9329.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
才有辦法離開 我們難道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9329.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
就要讓這個漢市持續在校園發聲嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9331.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9333.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
校...部長敢保證嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9333.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9335.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9335.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9337.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
部長我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9336.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9338.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
這個等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9338.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9340.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
等一下再跟你討論好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9340.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9342.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
部長先回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9342.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9344.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
因為今天特別有請到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9344.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
我們這個就剛剛我提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
國三生哥警案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9350.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
清水高中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9350.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9352.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
很不幸過世的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9352.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
楊同學的爸爸楊爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9354.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
到現場 我想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9356.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9358.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
請楊爸爸到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9357.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9359.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
我們備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9359.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9361.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
有請楊先生請到備詢台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9367.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9369.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
楊爸爸我跟您請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9369.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9371.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
以您的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9371.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9373.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
自身的案例您覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9373.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9375.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
以現在的教育體制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9375.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9377.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
楊同學有辦法被保護住嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9377.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9379.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
楊爸您可以 部長也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9379.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9381.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
也在台下 您看看有什麼話可以跟他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9382.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9384.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
其實以我現在來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9386.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
我兒子還是沒辦法被保護住 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9390 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9392 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9391.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9393.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
這兩個小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9393.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9395.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
就像 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9395.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9397.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
鐵拳教育的第六集一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9398.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9400.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
他們認為他們就是未成年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9402.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9404.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
他們有無底星星了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9405.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9407.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
更何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9407.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9409.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
劇中的那幾個小朋友都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9410.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
假裝的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9414.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
九十度驅逐光 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9414.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9416.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9416.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9418.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9418.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9420.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
他們是更離譜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9420.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9422.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
真的非常離譜的兩個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9423.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9425.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
結果咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9425.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9427.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
他們真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9428.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9430.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
兩個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9429.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9431.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
先後到清水高中喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9433.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9435.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9435.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9437.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
他們之前的行政處理一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9437.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9439.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
真的行政處理一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9440.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9442.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
你們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9441.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9443.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
很多都講說你們的行政處理做的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9445.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9447.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
為什麼行政處理變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
養了兩個殺人犯出來咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9450.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9452.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
這叫做你們的行政處理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9455.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
我不相信你們的行政處理是這種方式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9458.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9460.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
難道是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9460.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9462.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
應該這麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9462.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9464.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
你們只是讓他寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9464.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9466.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
超寫佛經、心經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9466.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9468.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
有用嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9469.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
如果有用的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9471.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9473.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
那我們以後的小孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9473.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9475.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
通通叫他們超寫佛經、心經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9475.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9477.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
每個都可以成仙成佛了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9476.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9478.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9478.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9480.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
他們超寫沒有用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9482.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9484.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
然後你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
只是就是所謂的行政處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
所謂的行政處理是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9490.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9492.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
我不知道 我真的不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9494.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9496.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
我們違規我們法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9497.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9499.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
闖紅燈違規都還要去上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9500.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
上完課還要考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9502.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9504.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
這些小朋友有沒有考試過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9504.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9506.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
你們有沒有跟他們上過法學的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9506.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9508.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9509.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9511.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
你跟我說你們法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9511.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9513.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
司法接不住 我要來接住嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9516.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9518.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
你認為我能夠怎麼接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9521.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9523.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
更何況今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9523.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9524.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
老師的教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9524.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9526.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
管理權沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9526.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9528.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
我兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9528.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9530.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
風氣鼓掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9531.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9533.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
就因為這樣子來上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
你沒有給老師管理權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
我兒子在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9540.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9542.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
當你們的管理權是這樣子對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9545.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
你這樣子 等於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
那以後你也不要去設所謂的風氣鼓掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9551.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
什麼鼓掌通不用了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9551.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
因為你老師都沒有管理權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9555.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9555.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9557.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
你那些學生有什麼管理權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9559.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
跟我說這個有什麼用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9562.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9564.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
你不付給老師管理權沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9567.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
晚安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9570.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9572.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
你們一直說不要標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9572.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9574.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
不要標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9573.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9575.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
這兩個小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9576.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9578.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
一直在標籤化自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9579.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9581.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
你們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9581.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9583.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
林生在那個學期 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9583.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9585.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
就至少超過50個警告嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9589.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9591.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
你們知不知道他們50支警告以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9591.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9593.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
缺礦課也好幾堂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9597.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9599.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
你們還要他們的教育權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9599.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9601.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
還要他們的人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9602.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9604.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
我不知道你們在講什麼東西啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9606.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9608.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
他們的售價權跟人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9608.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9610.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
結果害了那麼多學生的售價權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9614.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
晚安 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9614.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9616.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
安全也沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9616.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9618.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
為了這兩個小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9619.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9621.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
其他的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9621.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9623.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
人身安全沒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9623.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9625.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
他們也沒辦法受教了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9626.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9628.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
你知道他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9629.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9631.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
那一年的會考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9631.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9633.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
所有同學的成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9633.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9635.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
全部是落得一塌糊塗嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
不知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9639.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9641.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
他們接受多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9641.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9643.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
輔導教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9643.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9645.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
我所知道的5000人次以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9647.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9649.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
就這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9650.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9652.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
你們一直講他們的售價權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9652.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9654.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9654.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9656.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
老師連收書包什麼都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9658.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9660.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
你知道郭聲是哪時候拿刀嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
監察院講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9664.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
但才在他前一年的九月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9666.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9668.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
還是七月就開始拿刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9671.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9673.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
學校都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9673.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
然後在我的二嬸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
最後一庭他自己承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9679.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
他國一就拿刀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9682.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9684.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
有人知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9684.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9686.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
你這個學生你不標籤起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9686.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9688.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
誰能夠防得住這個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9691.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9693.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
你告訴我誰能夠防得住這個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9696.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9698.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
他從國一就開始拿刀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9702.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9704.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
我真的不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9706.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9708.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
其實我今天會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9708.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9710.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
我是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9711.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9713.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
真的校安問題大家去好好解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9716.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9718.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
不要再讓我跟我兒子一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9718.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9720.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
這樣子受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9720.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
我三年來這 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9722.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9724.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
快要三年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9724.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9726.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
我每天都睡不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9727.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9729.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
沒有人知道我的套 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9733.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
大家都說趕同身受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9733.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9735.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
你們去搜搜看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9735.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9737.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我不希望真的還有下一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9741.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9742.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
謝謝楊爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9745.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9747.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
那主席請請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9748.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9750.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
尤心部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9754.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9756.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9756.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9758.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9757.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9759.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
就是我覺得我是想要跟你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9759.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9761.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
很正面來討論這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9761.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9763.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
大家都不要有先入為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9763.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9765.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
那也可以理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9765.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9767.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
你希望說不要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9767.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9769.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
有一些學生標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9769.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9771.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
可以理解您的用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9771.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9773.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
但我覺得教育現場現在是要有所取捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
所以說到底應該要多站在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9778.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
加害者這邊考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9778.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9780.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
還是為了要維護整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9780.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9782.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
教育秩序的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9782.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9784.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
教育秩序又包括保護很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9784.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9786.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
善良的好學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9786.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9788.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
所以如果說我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9788.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9790.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
想要保護更多的善良學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9790.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9792.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
像陳如剛剛楊爸所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9793.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9795.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
班上只要有類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9795.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9797.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
郭南這種乾哥乾姐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9797.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9799.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
一個在班上全班成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9799.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9801.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
全部都沒有辦法得到好的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9801.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9803.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
為什麼因為大家很害怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9804.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9806.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
然後甚至生命也有威脅 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9807.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
9809.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
那你現在你的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9809.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9811.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
所提出來的所有的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9811.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
9813.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
完全沒有辦法解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9813.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9815.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
你看你們講了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9815.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9817.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
你說會根據學生輔導法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9817.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9819.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
加強輔導資源沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].start |
9819.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9821.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
輔導就是沒有用啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9821.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9823.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
然後另外你說會有詞揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9823.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9825.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
針對就學適應問題詞揮班這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9825.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9827.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
這些主要是針對錯學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9827.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9829.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
也不是針對這些有高風險的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9829.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9831.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
學生啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9831.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9833.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
然後其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9833.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9835.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
還有就是像最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9834.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9836.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
少年法庭裁定進入矯正教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9836.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9838.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
這個是他已經犯法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9838.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9840.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
他已經殺人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9840.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9842.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
那我想要解決的問題是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9842.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9844.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
我想要解決的問題就是他有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9844.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9846.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
但他還沒有到殺人的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9846.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9848.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
我們不能夠等到他殺人才離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9848.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9850.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
我們怎麼在他還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9850.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9852.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
犯法之前評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9852.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9854.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
他有極高的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9854.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9856.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
可能會做出傷害別人的事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9856.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9858.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
我們有個專家機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9858.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9860.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
然後強制他轉學到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9860.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9862.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
教育部所設立一個專屬的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9862.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9864.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
或機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9864.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9866.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
這個我們可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9866.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9868.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
技術性的問題我們可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9868.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9870.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
所以方向上你光是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9870.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9872.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
這個東西會標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9872.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9876.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
部長我都覺得你沒有用很正面的態度來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9876.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9878.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
看待我想要解決這個問題的心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9878.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9880.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
部長先讓你簡單回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9880.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9882.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9882.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9884.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
確實我想加害者的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9884.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9886.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
我們不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9886.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9888.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
他應該要對他的行為付出責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9888.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9890.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
或者我們講非行少年到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9890.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9892.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
還沒有當他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9892.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9894.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
真正到這個自人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9894.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9896.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
生命上的一些安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9896.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9898.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
危險的時候我們怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9898.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9900.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
學校的系統有一個更好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9900.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9902.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
處置的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9902.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9904.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
我想我們認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9904.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9906.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
來思考這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9906.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9908.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
然後找委員所說的學者專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9908.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9910.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
包括教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9910.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9912.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
我們來看怎麼樣來處理這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9912.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
9914.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
你現在就是沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
9914.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
9916.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
因為部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
9916.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
9918.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
我關心這個議題的言多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
9918.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
9920.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
委員希望有一個終界的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
9920.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
9922.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
9922.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
9924.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
可能是機構可能是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
9924.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
9926.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
或者可能是一個什麼樣的形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
9926.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
9928.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
我想我們認真思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
9928.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
9930.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
其實我有思考到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
9930.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
9932.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
我們最不要他標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
9932.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
9934.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
就是讓他轉學到那個專屬學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
9934.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
9936.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
那個學校也是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
9936.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
9938.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
可以正常上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
9938.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
9940.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
你也是上他喜歡的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
9940.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
9942.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
然後你加強輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
9942.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
9944.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
你找很會就是一些教育團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
9944.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
9946.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
應該他們都很有理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
9946.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
9948.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
我們因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
9948.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
9950.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
班級學校的一個教育裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
9950.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
9952.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
他這個班級統一的一個教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
9952.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
9954.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
統一的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
9954.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
9956.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
所以我們也感謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
9956.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
9958.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
這個大院過去有所謂的實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
9958.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
9960.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
有許多的home schooling |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
9960.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
9962.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
那對這些所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
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他可能學校的功課 |
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9966.91 |
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他找不到興趣也許讓他有一些 |
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更有是一個 |
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9970.91 |
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另類的一些學習的課程 |
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9972.91 |
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的一個我想這本來是我們 |
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9972.91 |
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9974.91 |
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對高官委員學生設計 |
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9974.91 |
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的一個初衷這個但是這一個 |
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9976.91 |
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9978.91 |
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如果還沒有等於說沒有辦法 |
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9980.91 |
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看起來我們還有許多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
9980.91 |
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9982.91 |
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校園的一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
9982.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
9984.91 |
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問題沒有辦法這個解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
9984.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
9986.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
我們來思考是不是有一個 |
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9986.91 |
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9988.91 |
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另類新的一個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
9990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
部長那個因為因為 |
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9990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
9992.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
我已經我們現在已經要進入休 |
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9992.91 |
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9994.91 |
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我其實我談這個議題談很多你應該也知道 |
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9994.91 |
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9996.91 |
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我很關心在這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
9996.91 |
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9998.91 |
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諮詢的時候也問過卓院長 |
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10000.91 |
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也跟你談過非常多次你們都沒有 |
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10000.91 |
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10002.91 |
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動所以我就直接立法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10002.91 |
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10004.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
那也謝謝召委排我們公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10004.91 |
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10006.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
然後今天巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10006.91 |
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10008.91 |
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接下來我們就可以直接處理法條 |
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10010.91 |
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那我是希望我們處理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10010.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10012.91 |
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條說教育部可以有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10012.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10014.91 |
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對岸來這邊你也可以提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10014.91 |
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10016.91 |
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你的看法出來也許你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10016.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10018.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
我的不夠成熟但我想要解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10018.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10020.91 |
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問題你可以提一個你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10020.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10022.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
更成熟的大家來集思廣益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10022.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10024.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
把問題解決不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10024.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10026.91 |
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就像楊爸講的他其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10026.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10028.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
他很難過他兒子已經回不來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10028.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10030.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
但他不希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10031.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10033.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
另外一個類似他兒子的狀況出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10033.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10035.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
不要有下一個楊爸爸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10035.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10037.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
所以楊爸爸今天願意來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10039.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
我也非常感謝他也讓部長知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10039.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10041.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
現行的機制就是沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10041.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10043.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
解決楊同學遇害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10043.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
的問題我們不要再下一個楊同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
10045.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10047.13 |
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部長可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
10047.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10049.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
好那部長這個拜託再積極一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10049.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10051.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
好謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
10051.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10053.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
然後再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10053.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10055.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
部長因為今天我們還有討論一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10055.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10057.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
就是有關於出缺席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10057.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10059.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
出缺席的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10061.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
我看到上上禮拜教育部是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10063.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
秀一個圖卡出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10065.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10067.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
特別有強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10067.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
學生遲到課不是沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10069.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10071.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
因為之前是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10071.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10073.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
有傳出來說遲到課不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10073.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10075.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
記警告後來有宣傳大波 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10075.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10077.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
教育部就出來說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10077.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10079.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
沒有記警告但是不是沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
因為學生遲到課也是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
為自己負責然後老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
人可依法管教學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
這個我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
蠻建議部長如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
你們部裡面有官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10093.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10095.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
你可以建議他到學校去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10095.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10097.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
擔任一日導師試試看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10097.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10099.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
你們的這個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10099.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10101.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
到底管不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10101.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10103.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
的了學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10103.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10105.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
第一個說通知家長都到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10105.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10107.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
孩子改善這個很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10107.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10109.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
老師講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10108.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10110.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
有些學生他就是習慣性的遲到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10110.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
或習慣性的缺課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10114.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
他每天早上都要去找那個家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10115.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10117.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
家長也很難找 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10116.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10118.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
找到家長也無所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10118.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10120.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
所以學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10120.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10122.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
很常會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10122.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10124.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
這種缺課的問題有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10124.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10126.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
也是家長不在乎所以用一支 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10126.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10128.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
教老師去通知家長什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10128.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10130.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
不用做了只要通知家長就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10130.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10132.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
所以這個是很不切實際 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10132.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10134.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
然後再來就是提醒勸導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10134.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10136.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
提醒勸導兇一點學生就回過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10136.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10138.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
投訴你然後不然的話你要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10138.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10140.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
他書面反省對你可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10140.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10142.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
要他書面反省他也可以告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10142.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10144.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
我不想我不想要書面反省怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10144.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10146.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
然後適當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10146.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10148.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
靜坐戰力反省一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10148.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10150.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
又回到剛剛講的現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10150.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10152.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
只要多管教學生兇了一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10152.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10154.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
就很容易被投入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10154.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10156.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
校事會議列入日常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10156.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10158.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
生活表現記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10158.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10160.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
老師拿一個小本本記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10160.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10162.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
下來也純記錄而已達不到什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10162.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10164.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
實質的效果 |
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10164.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10166.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
然後教育部講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10166.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10168.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
這個不用學生自己遲到 |
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10168.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10170.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
就是要負責啊對不對這個每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10170.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10172.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
要為自己的人生負責啊沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10172.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10174.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
然後講說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10174.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
初學期會列入管理 |
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10176.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10178.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
該科成績可能不及格可能影響 |
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10178.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10180.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
畢業資格但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10181.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10183.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
因為以前記過大家會比較緊張 |
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10183.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10185.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
原因是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10186.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10188.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
那個記過可能會留校查看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10188.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10190.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
可能會退學現在記過根本沒差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10190.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10192.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
十個大多二十個大多都沒有差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10192.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10194.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
那這 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10194.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10196.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
影響畢業資格我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10196.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10198.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
我們可以看一下影響畢業資格其實也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10198.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10200.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
蠻困難的為什麼呢因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10200.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10202.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
你國中三年的總糖數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10202.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10204.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
大概是四千兩百糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10204.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10206.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
你要缺課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10206.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10208.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
超過一千四百糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10209.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10211.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
你才拿不到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10211.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10213.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
等於是你一週可以缺課超過十糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10213.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10215.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
十糖以內都是合理的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10215.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10217.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
這個拿到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10217.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10219.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
門檻非常低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10219.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
那就算拿不到畢業證書啊就算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10221.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
缺課實在非常多拿不到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10223.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
也可以有休業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10225.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
休業證書照樣可以升學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10227.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
所以我現在不是要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10229.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
挑戰教育部講這個圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10231.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
我只是說你們所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10233.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
提出來的所有的管教方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10237.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
在一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10237.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10239.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
是完全沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10240.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
那完全沒有用會產生什麼狀況呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10242.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
破窗效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10243.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10245.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
只要班上有幾個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10245.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10247.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
是習慣性的缺課或遲到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10247.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10249.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
整個班就非常難帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10249.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10251.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
老師會很難帶這個班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10251.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10253.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
所以部長這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10253.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10255.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
部長可以去統計一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10254.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
你可以去統計一下不同的縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10258.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
每個學生平均 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10259.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10261.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
到了期末的時候因為缺課會預警嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10261.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10265.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
你去調查一下全班大概幾分之幾的要被預警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10266.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10268.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
我的了解大概五分之一到十分之一的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10268.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10270.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
因為缺課遲到被預警 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10272.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10274.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
所以這個是很嚴重的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10274.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10276.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
這個不是說教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10276.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10278.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
po一個圖表好像問題就解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10278.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10280.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
我真建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10280.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10282.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
教育部的官員當一日 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10282.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10284.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
導師試試看你去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10284.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10286.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
現在的教學現場是有多麼的難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10286.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10288.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
管理部長您了解這個狀況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10289.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
簡單簡單回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10293.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
我確實在這個現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10293.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10295.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
裡面有多少比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10295.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10297.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
學生這個缺課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10297.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
整班的這個我確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
比較陌生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10303.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
比較陌生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10303.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10305.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
我是跟你講你們提出來的那些方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10306.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10308.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
你們提出來的方法都沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10308.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10310.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
而且很多老師還覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10310.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10312.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
現在教育部在教老師怎麼去管學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10312.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10314.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
我想委員我必須要同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10314.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10316.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
委員一定程度的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10316.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10318.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
就是社會在快速的一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10318.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10320.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
那我們怎麼樣學校教育的管教辦完 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10320.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10322.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
也能夠以實際進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10322.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10324.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
這我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10324.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10326.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
這一個來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10326.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10328.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
要提辦法出來啦部長好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10328.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10330.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
大概什麼時候可以提一個辦法出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10330.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10332.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
我想我們還是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10332.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10334.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
這個家長老師學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10334.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10336.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
討論討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10336.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10338.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
然後真正做一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10338.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10340.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
缺合第一線上真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10340.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10342.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
實際的一個情況來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10342.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10344.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
其實你可以看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10344.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10346.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
你的那個教育部的臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10346.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10348.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
那天po那個圖表出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10348.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10350.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
下面有兩三千則留言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10350.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10352.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
你可以去看他們的留言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10352.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10354.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
那都很多我看好像都是一線老師的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10354.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10356.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
那也是你輿情收集的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10356.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10358.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
教育部不要說只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10358.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10360.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
只會po圖啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10360.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10362.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
應該社群不是只是在澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10362.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10364.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
收集輿情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10364.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10366.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
還有一個點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10366.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10368.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
最近大家在討論這個正向教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10369.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10371.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
正向教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10372.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
正向教育不是不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10376.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
正向教育非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10376.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10378.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
但是正向教育當初 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10378.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10380.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
一開始的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10380.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10382.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
是針對家庭教育就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10382.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10384.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
希望爸媽在對小朋友教育的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10384.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10386.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
要用正向教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10386.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10388.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
那如果放到學校一對多的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10390.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10392.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
你全部都用正向教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10392.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10394.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
同樣的也會面臨到教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10394.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10396.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
跟教育次序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10396.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10398.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
熟清熟重的一個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10398.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10400.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
我就舉這個教育部的範例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10400.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10402.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
你看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10402.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10404.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
不敢看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10404.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
右邊是你的範例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10408.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
有個同學大聲罵同學罵學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10410.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
老師一開始不能夠跟學生說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10414.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
老師一開始不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10414.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10416.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
制止他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10416.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
要用正向教育要怎麼說呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10418.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10420.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
老師要去跟同學說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10420.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
關於羅庭偉同學你大聲罵同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10422.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
罵學校這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
老師可以了解你對同學學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10428.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
很關心這是很好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10428.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
以後你還是要繼續關心同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10431.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10433.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
但是方法不對你可能會傷害別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10435.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10437.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
你不敢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10437.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10439.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
假設今天有一個同學他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10439.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10441.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
就是很惡意的亂罵同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10441.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10443.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
罵三字經講得很難聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10443.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10445.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
霸凌同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10446.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10448.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
拿著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10447.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
10449.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
老師碰到這一位同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10449.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10451.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
一開始的時候還要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10451.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10453.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
關於你霸凌同學這件事情呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10453.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10455.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10455.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10457.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
表示你關心同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10457.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10459.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
或他罵三字經問候人家媽媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10459.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10461.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
關於你問候人家媽媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10461.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10463.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
這件事情很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10463.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10465.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
表示你關心人家媽媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10466.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10468.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
這我覺得太不切實際了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10468.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10470.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
委員我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10470.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10472.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
有許多的案例他確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10472.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10474.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
教育的現場的困境就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10474.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10476.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
你不能用一個案例去解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10476.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10478.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
這個是你們的範例嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10478.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
就是說範例他自己一個情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10482.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
你給大家的範例人家就會造作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10482.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10484.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
人家也很怕被投訴啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10484.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
直接講說你直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10488.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
三字經甚至有許多的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10488.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10490.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
我想他一定有不同的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
10490.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
10492.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
10492.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
10494.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
當然這個因為你這個範例你是抽象的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
10494.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
10496.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
當然他要含色很多實際狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
10496.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
10498.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
但我講的也是罵同學的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
10498.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
10500.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
10500.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
10502.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
你說把正向教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
10502.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
10504.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
簡化成形式上的向上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
10504.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
10506.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
正向這其實是形式上正向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
10506.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
10508.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
你反而忽略了教育的內涵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
10508.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
10510.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
而且你這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
10510.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
10512.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
一開始的時候還肯定不當行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
10512.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
10514.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
背後的想像動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
10514.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
10516.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
這等於是有點主動幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
10516.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
10518.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
做錯事的孩子找藉口啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
10519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
10521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
另外我覺得一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
10521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
10523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
教育秩序的維護你忽略被罵同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
10523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
10525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
被影響者的感受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
10525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
10527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
其實你還是傷害了其他孩子的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
10527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
10529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
所以其實我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
10529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
10531.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
講的很多東西都是環環相扣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
10531.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
10533.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
就是我們現在所面臨到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
10533.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
10535.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
現在的教育現場是非常複雜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
10535.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
10537.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
跟以前已經很不一樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
10537.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
10539.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
造成教育現場的失序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
10541.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
10545.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
事實後針對我們這幾年教改 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
10545.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
10547.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
很多學者專家所提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
10547.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
10549.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
他們認為很好的教育方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
10549.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
10551.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
我覺得事實後好好的檢討一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
10551.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
10553.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
正向教育沒有說一定不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
10553.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
10555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
可是你檢討他的適用的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
10555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
10557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
或者是檢討他的執行方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
10557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
10559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
還有就是面對那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
10559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
10563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
加害者同學的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
10563.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
10565.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
是不是過度的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
10565.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
10567.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
然後另外就是老師的管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
10567.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
10569.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
是不是不斷的限縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
10569.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
10571.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
導致於老師面對學生沒有工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
10571.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
10573.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
造成現場的失序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
10573.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
10575.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
我覺得這個是一個整體的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
10575.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
10577.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
所以我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
10577.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
10579.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
因為有很多像校次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
10579.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
10581.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
我之前都跟部長討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
10581.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
10583.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
我今天都浪費時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
10583.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
10585.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
但是我覺得這個是整體的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
10585.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
10587.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
所以真心的很希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
10587.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
10589.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
我們就面對問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
10589.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
10593.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
把教育現場的失序問題好好導正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
10593.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
10595.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
因為我覺得現在的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
10595.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
10597.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
真的是還蠻嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
10597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
10599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
部長簡單回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
10599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
10601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
10601.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
10603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
我想以實俱進的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
10603.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
10605.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
不管老師的一個管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
10605.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
10607.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
專業管教權跟學生許多行為的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
10607.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
10609.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
特別在國民教育裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
10609.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
10611.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
10611.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
10613.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
我也完全同意委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
10613.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
10617.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
我們來看怎麼樣以實俱進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
10617.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
10619.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
是可以盡快好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
10619.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
10621.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
大概您什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
10621.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
10623.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
會給我們一個大概的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
10623.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
10625.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
我想我們一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
10625.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
10627.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
我跟學者專家請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
10627.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
10629.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
學者專業跟團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
10629.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
10631.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
包含學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
10631.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
10633.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
過去確實有以學生為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
10633.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
10635.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
學生的受教權不容挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
10635.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
10637.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
但是我們怎麼樣去保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
10637.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
10639.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
真正學習的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
10639.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
10641.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
或者有一些行為已經預約規範的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
10641.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
10643.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
我們怎樣把它導正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
10643.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
10645.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
我想這一個確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
10645.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
10647.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
它是一個需要一些時間 |
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10647.15 |
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10649.15 |
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我們來把它想一個比較清楚的 |
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10649.15 |
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10651.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
能夠歸納我們大家第一線上 |
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10651.15 |
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10653.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
特別老師們 |
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10653.15 |
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10655.15 |
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的一些建議學生的建議 |
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10655.15 |
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10657.15 |
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因為一樣的學生今天 |
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10657.15 |
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10659.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
因為有一位同學的干擾 |
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10659.15 |
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10661.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
讓他們沒有辦法安心學習 |
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10661.15 |
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10663.15 |
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我想這些我們都 |
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10663.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
10665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
一併把它納進來 |
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10665.15 |
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10667.15 |
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來研議看怎麼樣 |
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10667.15 |
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10669.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
有一個更適當的以實俱進的方法 |
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10669.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
10671.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
好謝謝希望部長盡快 |
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10671.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
10673.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
謝謝 |
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10675.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
10677.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
好謝謝部長請回 |
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10678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
10680.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
我們先休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
10680.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
10682.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
稍後有請 |
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10682.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
10684.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
一人之委員代理召委謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11019.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11021.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
好現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11021.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11023.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
請陳秀寶委員進行巡答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11033.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11035.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
謝謝主席請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11036.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11038.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
請政務部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11045.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11047.67 |
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部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11047.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11049.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
部長一開始想先就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11049.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11051.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
關於考生權益的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11051.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11053.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
來跟部長請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11053.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11055.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
今年度的分科測驗因為遇到颱風 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11055.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11057.67 |
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所以延遲到今天明天 |
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11057.67 |
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11059.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
就是13號14號來舉行 |
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11059.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11061.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
那本席想就這次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11061.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
應變措施跟部長來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11063.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
大考中心是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11065.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11067.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
7月7號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11067.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
對外說明 |
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11069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11071.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
對外說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11071.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
分科測驗會延期 |
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11073.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
7月8號的時候確定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11075.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
延期到7月13號到14號 |
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11077.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11079.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
那也說明說學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11079.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11081.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
如果住的地方有停班停課 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11081.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
交通道路中斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11083.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11085.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
交通奏組的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11085.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11087.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
怕影響到今天明天前往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11087.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11089.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
考場所以他們可以提前 |
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11089.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11091.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
依照實際的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11091.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11093.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
前往考區所在的 |
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11093.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11095.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
所在地準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11095.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11097.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
如果衍生出了住宿或交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11097.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11099.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
費用都可以來申請補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11099.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
那部長這有時候不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11101.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11103.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
這個延伸費用的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11105 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11107 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
這一次的颱風其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11107 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11109 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
影響最嚴重的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11109 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11111 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
就是週末 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11111 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11113 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
就是原本的考試時間11到12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11113 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11115 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
那大考中心叫考生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11115 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11117 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
在風災雨災最嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11117 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11119 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
11到12離開他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11119 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11121 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
住所那前往 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11121 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11123 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
考試的地方做準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11123 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11125 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
這個是不是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11125 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11127 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
這個公佈的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11127 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11129 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
我們所實施的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11129 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11131 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
這個時候沒有去考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11131 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11133 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
學生他就是因為他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11133 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11135 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
從他住的地方到考試的地方不方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11135 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11137 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
那您大考中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11137 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11139 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
建議他說是在風災雨災最嚴重的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11139 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
11141 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
最厲害的時候離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
11141 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
11143 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
11143.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
11145.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
我們這次的颱風 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
11145.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
11147.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
我們延遲了就是往後延了兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
11147.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
11149.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
就是6日變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
11149.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
11151.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
1、2嘛但是我們各考場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
11151.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
11153.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
如果說他有建築物受損 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
11153.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
11155.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
或是有積水的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
11155.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
11157.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
也許在星期一他還 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
11157.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
11159.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
沒有把考場恢復好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
11159.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
11161.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
那颱風過後其實我們中南部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
11161.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
11163.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
經常有所謂的紅颱風也就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
11163.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
11165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
有西南氣流這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
11165.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
11167.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
造成了這個豪大雨的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
11167.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
11169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
那還有偏遠地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
11169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
11171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
他們可能在這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
11171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
11173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
他們的交通可能還沒有恢復 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
11173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
11175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
那大考中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
11175.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
11177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
當初在做這個延期的決定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
11177.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
11179.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
有沒有去考慮到這些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
11180.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
11182.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
謝謝委員其實委員所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
11182.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
11184.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
大考中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
11184.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
11186.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
事實上我必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
11186.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
11188.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
為他們說他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
11188.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
11190.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
大考中心或者這個召聯會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
11190.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
11192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
事實上都有納進考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
11192.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
11194.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
委員剛才所說的譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
11194.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
11196.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
他不一定是星期六日才出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
11196.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
11198.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
他可能因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
11198.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
11200.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
星期四等7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
11200.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
11202.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
7月8號的時候是星期四 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
11202.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
11204.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
這時候一宣布的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
11204.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
11206.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
有一些考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
11206.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
11208.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
有的可能7月9號的時候就出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
11208.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
11210.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
因為像我昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
11210.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
11212.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
還特別在高雄兩個考區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
11212.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
11214.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
我都特別走了一趟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
11214.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
11216.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
還有我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
11216.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
11218.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
這個諸次長也在台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
11218.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
11220.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
地區我們也看到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
11220.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
11222.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
政府縣市首長也有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
11222.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11224.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
關心考區就是說我們昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
11224.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
11226.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
下午到考生下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
11226.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
11228.27 |
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4點要能夠看考場 |
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我們確定所有的考場 |
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考區全部都已經 |
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準備完畢委員所 |
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關心的那些在包含 |
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在昨天還有 |
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一些山區的這些 |
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這一個停止上班 |
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上課的我們都考區 |
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都足以打電話像 |
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以高雄六龜他是 |
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停止上班上課也是 |
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三位我們全部都 |
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打過電話只有已經 |
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全部到市區來準備要 |
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注視準備要考試 |
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只有一個在路上所以 |
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感謝委員的關心在這個部分 |
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招聯會事實上在過去 |
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也有處理過這個延後考試 |
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所以在整個事務 |
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跟所有的準備 |
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我想他們是相當程度的一個 |
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非常的熟悉 |
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也能夠掌握 |
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利用這個機會要特別感謝 |
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全國因應現在 |
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這兩天考試的所有的 |
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事務工作人員考區 |
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所有的這些 |
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夥伴也謝謝他們 |
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因為能夠考量 |
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這個氣候的關係 |
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包含考生 |
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我們在網路上也看到考生 |
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也覺得無奈因為甚至有的 |
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要已經規劃這兩天就要出國 |
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那他們也 |
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可以理解因為氣候上的關係 |
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還是考試為重了 |
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謝謝部長您的說明 |
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這個部分我是新華松教育部跟大考中心 |
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我們就這一次的這個 |
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因為颱風遇到颱風 |
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氣候的影響來延期 |
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考試的這個整個狀況 |
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我們也會來做一個參考 |
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來研擬就是說 |
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我們是不是明確的來 |
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訂定一個延期的辦法 |
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來供考生來參考 |
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譬如說我們在考試前多久 |
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如果有颱風來襲 |
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那考試我們就會順延多久 |
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我們訂一個標準出來 |
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讓學生比較有能夠掌握 |
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那學生家長跟老師也比較不會焦慮 |
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他們可以提早因應 |
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所以我這邊有建議就是說 |
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我們能不能夠明確的規範 |
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我們可以說有等級的颱風 |
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或是說雨量 |
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那我們來做一個分級的機制 |
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再來就是如果說 |
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有這個考場可能有 |
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會遇到我剛剛講的建築物 |
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有一些損害或者是淹水的部分 |
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我們應該考量 |
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讓考場有時間 |
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有這個彈性來恢復考場的安全 |
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那加上說 |
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我們南部有時候會遇到這樣的狀況 |
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其實這次的八威颱風 |
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其實剛開始我們覺得它會很嚴重 |
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所以我們就要鎖性 |
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鎖性其實雖然有淹水的地方 |
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有些攤販的地方 |
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但是沒有像之前幾次的颱風 |
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造成那麼大的損傷 |
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所以這次的考生算是說 |
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如果我們這麼短的時間延期 |
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也是讓他們可以順利的完成考試 |
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但是會希望說針對不同的地理特性 |
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我們是不是在 |
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這個延後考試的時間考量上 |
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也有一個機制 |
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來參考 |
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那加上剛剛部長您說 |
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就只有一位考生 |
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就是因為這個交通的狀況 |
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有點狀況 |
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那也希望說我們這個偏遠的考生的權益保障 |
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我們有思考到 |
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剛才您說的 |
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因為我們有提供住宿跟交通的補助 |
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但是如果說 |
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有的是比較特殊的 |
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是不是有一些專案可以來協助這些偏遠地區的考生 |
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是我想謝謝委員 |
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再次提醒 |
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確實整個昭聯會大考中心 |
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委員所提的這些都是他們在 |
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因應這個所謂的 |
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自然災害 |
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我這樣提議是希望說 |
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以後可以更明確 |
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我們事先訂出一個SOP |
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讓考生家長老師 |
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在提前知道說可能會遇到颱風的時候 |
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我們就先領個底子說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11446.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11448.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
大概會做一個怎樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
11448.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11450.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
延期的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
11450.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11452.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
這個我們可以思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11452.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11454.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
好那如果有相關的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11454.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11456.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
是不是一份報告給我辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11456.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11458.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11458.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
接下來我想請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11460.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
近期這個問題有品的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11462.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
引發社會的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11464.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
跟家長對於校園食品安全的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11466.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11468.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
高度的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11468.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11470.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
那首先對學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11470.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11472.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
校園一樣午餐有使用到問題有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11472.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11474.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
本席真的是覺得非常震驚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11474.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11476.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
也覺得是遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11476.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11478.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
但是在這個時候我還是要肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11478.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11480.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
我們校園食材登錄平台的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11480.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11482.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
就是因為有登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11482.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11484.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
我們校園公餐的訊息才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11484.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11486.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
很即時的提供這個追蹤查詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
11486.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11488.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
那教育部也很快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11488.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11490.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
有統計出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
11490.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11492.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
總共有20個縣市的623所的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11492.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11494.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
以及258所的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11494.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11496.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
有使用到或是疑似使用到問題有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11496.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11498.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
當然有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
11498.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11500.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
有問題我們就趕快下架及停用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11500.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11502.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
但是後續我們要如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11502.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11504.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
來守護校園的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11504.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11506.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
而且現在雖然是暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
11506.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
但是公幼已經開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11508.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11510.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
暑期的家托服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11510.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11512.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
表示說也是開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11512.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11514.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
公餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11514.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
未來的機制是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11516.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11518.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
那首先我在這邊要建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11518.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11520.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
為了降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11520.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11522.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
單一有品長期集中使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11522.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11524.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
帶來的潛在風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11524.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11526.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
是建議教育部這邊能夠建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11526.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11528.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
彈性採購的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11528.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
我們跟地方業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11532.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
政府及業者的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11532.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11534.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
我們是不是定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11534.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11536.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
那有時三個月還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11536.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11538.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
至少三個月或半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11538.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
我們更換營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11540.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11542.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
擁有種類的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11542.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11544.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
或定期的輪替 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11544.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11546.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
比較有效的來分散 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11546.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11548.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
降低食安風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11548.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11550.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
不要固定用同一種油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11550.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11552.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
同一種油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11552.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11554.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
其實針對近期引發的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11554.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11556.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
有爭議的進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11556.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11558.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
巴西的大豆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11558.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11560.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
在相關主管機關的新規範出爐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11560.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11562.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
一律沒有完全消除之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11562.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11564.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
是建議校園營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11564.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11566.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
應該採取預防性的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11566.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11568.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
我們在過渡期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11568.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11570.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
避免使用大豆油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11570.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11572.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
改採用其他有國家認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11572.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11574.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
來源明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11574.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11576.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
而且沒有爭議的烹調油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11576.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11578.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
用比較高的規格 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11578.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11580.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
我們來守護校園的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11580.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11582.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
大臣同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11583.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11585.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
還是署長你要回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11587.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11589.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
謝謝委員的指正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11589.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11591.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
彈性用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11591.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11593.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
當然我們可以跟這個地方來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11593.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11595.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11595.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11597.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
降低它可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11597.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11599.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
單一的一些風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11599.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11601.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
只要長期使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11601.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11603.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
它可能累積的麻煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11603.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11605.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
傷害可能很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11605.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11607.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
至於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11607.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11609.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
它是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11609.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11611.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
如果我們是不是要全面禁用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11611.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11613.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
我想這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11613.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11615.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
還得要斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11615.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11617.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
要確保的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11617.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11619.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
這個違法規定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11619.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11621.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
它不應該在學校園裡面出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11621.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11623.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
但是合法的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11623.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11625.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
我們好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11625.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11627.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
這個部分可能我們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11627.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11629.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
要相對要慎重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11629.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11631.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
要慎重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11631.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11633.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
因為是因為現在的這個期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11633.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
其實家長對於這個食安的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11637.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
會希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11637.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11639.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
是不是我們有更積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11639.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11641.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
更確實的一些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11641.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11643.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
我相信在地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11643.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11645.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
跟學校的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11645.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11647.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
他們一定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11647.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11649.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
跟委員所提的是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11649.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11651.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
一定會用更謹慎的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11651.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11653.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
來看待這個油品的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11653.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
剛才委員有提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11655.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11657.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
已經有產生問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11657.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
在餘力沒有消除前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11659.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11661.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
學校一定是不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11661.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
再讓它進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11663.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11665.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
謝謝部長 我還是要再提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11665.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11667.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
目前很多公立的幼兒園已經展開 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11667.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11669.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
暑期的家托服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11669.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11671.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
而且是開始供餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11671.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11673.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
但是校園食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11673.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11677.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
好像沒有把暑期飲食納入範疇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11677.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11679.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
所以這個部分是不是請教育部這邊清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11679.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11681.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
如果這個部分我們馬上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11681.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11683.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
這個是在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11683.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11685.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
我們馬上可以來提醒地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11685.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11687.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
等於說延拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11687.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11689.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
這個暑假延拖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11689.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11691.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
也應該要按照規定來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11691.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11693.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
所以說希望把整個食安的控管做得更周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11693.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11695.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
好 那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11695.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11697.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11697.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11699.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
部長 今年我們的校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11699.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11701.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
暴力衝突案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11701.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11703.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
累計超過了三萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11703.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11705.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
與此同時學生的自傷通報案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11705.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11707.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
也是創下歷史新高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11707.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11709.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
這些很沉重的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11709.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11711.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
其實都在跟我們發出警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11711.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11713.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
我們現在來我們的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11713.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11715.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
承受著前所未有的心靈的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11715.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11717.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
所以校園的輔導需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11717.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11719.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
其實是迫在眉睫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11719.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11721.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
但是當孩子發出求救訊號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11721.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11725.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
我們校園的第一道防線專門輔導教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11725.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11727.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
是面臨著人力吃緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11727.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11729.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
以及輔導量能荒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11732.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11734.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
根據基層的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11734.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11736.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
目前的專輔教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11736.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11738.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
他不僅是要面對日益龐大解複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11738.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11740.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
這是個案量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11740.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11742.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
還常常被指派去處理繁重的非核心行政事務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11742.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11744.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
像是各種的正力宣導成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11744.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11746.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
或是跟自傷無關的跨局處的評鑑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11746.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11748.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
或是繁瑣的行政報表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11748.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11750.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
當這些繁雜的雜物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11750.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11752.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
奪走老師大部分的時間跟精力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11752.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11754.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
他們還有多少時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11754.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11756.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
可以好好的坐下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11756.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
傾聽孩子們說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11760.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
其實我們都知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11760.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11762.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
孩子是我們國家的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11762.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11764.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
我們不希望在校園裡面的心靈扶手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11764.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11766.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
自己都先過老而倒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11766.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11768.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
所以在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11768.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11770.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
我要很誠懇的建議請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11770.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
11772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
我們要積極的研議推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
11772.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
11774.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
專輔教師行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
11774.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
11776.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
並且重新檢視明確規範他的工作職長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
11776.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
11778.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
務必要精簡整備那些非輔導專業的行政負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
11778.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
11780.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
那種專業回歸專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
11780.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
11782.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
因為只有降低專輔教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
11782.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
11784.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
這些額外的工作量 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
11784.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
11786.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
那些學生的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
11786.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
11788.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
那些學生的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
11788.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
11790.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
這些學生的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
11790.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
11792.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
這些額外的工作量才可以讓他們很專心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
11792.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
11794.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
從事心理輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
11794.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
11796.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
來能夠真正的接觸每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
11796.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
11798.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
需要被接觸的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
11798.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
11800.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
部長請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
11800.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
11802.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
是的我想陳務委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
11802.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
11804.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
我們去年大院通過的學生輔導法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
11804.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
11806.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
本來就是希望有更多的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
11806.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
11808.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
的心理輔導老師能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
11808.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
11810.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
來協助我們各階段教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
11810.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
11812.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
這些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
11812.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
11814.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
那我想讓他能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
11814.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
11816.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
發揮專業減少一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
11816.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
11818.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
不相干的行政工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
11818.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
11820.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
我們要協助他們去排除不是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
11820.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
11822.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
專業以外的工作落在他們身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
11824.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
11826.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
所以這個我們教育部這邊可以為他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
11826.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
11828.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
是我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
11828.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
11830.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
本來就是當時學生輔導法設置的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
11830.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
11832.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
11832.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
11834.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
我想我們也會跟地方來提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
11834.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
11836.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
學校一定要讓專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
11836.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
11838.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
心理輔導老師能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
11838.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
11840.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
請教育部這邊來協助來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
11840.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
11842.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
現在對於這些專輔教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
11842.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
11844.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
他們本身的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
11844.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
11846.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
他們所背負的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
11846.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
11848.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
如果不屬於自己的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
11848.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
11850.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
專業範疇的是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
11850.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
11852.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
協助他們來排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
11852.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
11854.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
我們跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
11854.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
11856.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
假設我們全面來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
11856.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
11858.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
到底現在心無老實他要兼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
11858.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
11860.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
什麼樣的行政工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
11860.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
11862.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
那我們再來跟地方看怎麼樣來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
11862.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
11864.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
讓他回到專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
11864.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
11866.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
本質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
11866.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
11868.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
那請教育部這邊把你們所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
11868.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
11870.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
目前的狀況跟你們預計 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
11870.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
11872.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
如何來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
11872.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
11874.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
也一份報告給我辦公室好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
11874.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
11876.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
好謝謝部長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
11879.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
11881.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
11882 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
11886 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
接下來請郭育勤委員進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
11896.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
11898.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
11899.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
11901.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
好有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
11900.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
11902.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
有請鄭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
11908.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
11910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
部長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
11910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
11912.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
我想最近中年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
11914.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
11916.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
有指的一個世界上很多家長非常擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
11916.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
11918.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
不過我們先來了解這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
11918.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
11920.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
整個所有的這個事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
11920.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
11922.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
時間軸喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
11922.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
11924.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
從4月開始這個中年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
11924.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
11926.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
有品出廠到5月13號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
11926.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
11928.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
南橋自行檢出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
11928.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
11930.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
那麼這個超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
11930.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
11932.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
但沒有依法通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
11932.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
11934.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
那他只有通知中聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
11934.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
11936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
中聯又自行復檢但是他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
11936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
11938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
開會仍然還是拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
11938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
11940.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
那這段時間其實都還 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
11940.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
11942.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
沒有曝光到了6月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
11942.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
11944.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
已經被地方衛生局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
11944.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
11946.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
給查獲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
11946.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
11948.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
那中聯跟這個福壽還有福茂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
11948.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
11950.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
台中還有泰山 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
11950.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
11952.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
在6月15號開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
11952.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
11954.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
這表示他們其實早已知情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
11954.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
11956.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
到最後6月30號才正式通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
11956.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
11958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
這整整延誤的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
11958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
11960.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
大概是48天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
11960.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
11962.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
48天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
11962.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
11964.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
好那雖然現在是正年暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
11964.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
11966.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
但是其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
11966.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
11968.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
有更多的家長其實是擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
11968.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
11970.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
在4月一直到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
11970.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
11972.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
6月底這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
11972.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
11974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
我的孩子到底有沒有吃進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
11974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
11976.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
這些有問題的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
11976.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
11978.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
11978.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
11980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
當然這個部分交易部最近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
11980.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
11982.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
清查最新的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
11982.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
11984.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
那全國已經有861所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
11984.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
11986.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
11986.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
11988.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
還有334所的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
11988.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
11990.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
肉園也曾經用到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
11990.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
11992.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
這個問題的有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
11992.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
11994.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
那我想交易部這部分第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
11994.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
11996.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
已經有要求要預防性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
11996.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
11998.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
一個下架那當然對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
11998.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12000.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
這個迅速的應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12000.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12002.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
還是要給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12002.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12004.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
但我現在想要談的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12004.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12006.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
交易部我們現在要做的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12006.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
事件發生之後的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12010.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
還是事件發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12010.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
前的預防我想發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12014.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
前的預防可能要重於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12014.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12016.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
事件發生之後的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12016.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12018.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
那如果每一次都是食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12018.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12020.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
公佈名單然後我們交易部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12020.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12022.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
再開始比對那這代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12022.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12024.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
我們的孩子可能早就已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12024.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12026.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
吃下肚了那我想在這邊我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12026.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
請教一下部長目前這個食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12030.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
公佈這些問題批號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12030.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12032.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
之後那交易部有沒有透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12032.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12034.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
地方政府學校在利用所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12034.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
這個校園食材登錄的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
一比一比的來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12040.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
比對那是已經做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12040.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12042.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
系統化的比對嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12042.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12044.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
還是目前還在人工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12044.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
比對因為只要是人工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
比對就可能會發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
所謂的時間差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
因為今天可能是有品明天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12054.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
可能是牛奶後天可能是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12054.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12056.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
蛋製品或者是農藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12056.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12058.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
殘留那這個部分我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12058.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
每一次都要重新的人工清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12062.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
教務認為這樣子的效率足夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12064.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12066.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12065.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
我想這個登錄平台本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12067.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
希望能夠掌握所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12071.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
信息每天的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12071.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12073.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
的營養午餐的一個食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12073.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12075.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
所以我們在7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12075.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12077.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
一有這樣一個消息的時候馬上能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12077.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
從這個登錄平台裡面就看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12081.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
有1380所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12083.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12085.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
他是用這個中年所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12087.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12091.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
用的這個三個廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12091.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12095.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
所以我們才進一步請這個地方教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12095.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12099.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
針對平台當中的每一品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12099.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12101.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
基本上他打的一些已經都說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12101.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12103.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
就能夠直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12103.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12105.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
所以我們已經有做到系統自動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12105.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12107.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
一個比對了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12107.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12109.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
這是我的問題有做到系統嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12109.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12111.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
目前還是用人工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12111.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12113.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
還是人工清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12127.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12129.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
這個部分是隨機嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12129.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12131.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
隨機嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12131.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
12133.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
這個是全面不是隨機 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
12133.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
12135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
那我再問一下剛剛署長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
12135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
12137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
因為現在我們有很多的學校的午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
12137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
12139.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
其實是供應商自行登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
12139.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
12141.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
是供應商自行登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
12141.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
12143.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
兩種如果是學校自辦的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
12143.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
12145.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
學校老師或相關人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
12145.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
12147.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
如果是外定團散 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
12147.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
12149.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
或是公辦民營 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
12149.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
12151.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
那個是委託的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
12152.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
12154.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
那我問一下教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
12154.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
12156.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
我們有沒有要求要多久之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
12156.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
12158.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
一定要完成登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
12158.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
12160.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
是一天一個小時幾個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
12160.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
12162.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
還是一天還是三天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
12162.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
12164.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
如果廠商延遲登錄的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
12164.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
12166.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
我們中央這邊有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
12166.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
12168.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
在第一時間知道哪一些學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
12168.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
12170.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
可能用到了所謂的問題的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
12171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
12173.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
12173.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
12175.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
登錄的時間是當日 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
12175.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
12177.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
如果延遲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
12177.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
12179.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
我們有相關的爬蟲機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
12179.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
12181.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
會去抓到哪些學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
12181.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
12183.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
我們會去要求跟警示他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
12183.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
12185.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
所以我們有一套爬蟲機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
12185.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
12187.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
會去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
12187.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
12189.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
包含縣市的中毒新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
12189.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
12191.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
我們都全天候24小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
12191.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
12193.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
爬蟲都在抓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
12193.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
12195.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
為什麼我要特別這樣子強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
12195.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
12197.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
這件事情喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
12197.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
12199.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
因為其實如果沒有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
12199.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
12201.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
即時去登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
12201.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
12203.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
或者是我們沒有發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
12203.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
12205.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
他延遲登錄的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
12205.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
12207.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
中間就可能會產生所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
12207.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
12209.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
空窗就像我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
12209.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
12211.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
如果這個延遲的這個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
12211.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
12213.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
這個空窗的時間我的孩子可能都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
12213.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
12215.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
已經吃下肚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
12215.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
12217.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
這是我要點出的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
12217.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
12219.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
那我再請問一下我們的教育部跟食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
12219.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
12221.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
還有農業部這邊有沒有建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
12221.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
12223.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
即時的串接 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
12223.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
12225.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
還是我們仍然是仰賴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
12225.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
12227.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
所謂的不管是公文也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
12227.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
12229.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
沒有也好來人工的通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
12229.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
12231.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
如果今天比方說我舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
12231.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
12233.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
如果今天我們的食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
12233.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
12235.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
他公佈了在凌晨的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
12235.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
12237.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
是公佈了問題的批號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
12237.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
12239.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
請問教育部這邊多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
12239.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
12241.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
可以直接通知學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
12241.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
12243.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
一個小時半天還是要一整天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
12244.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
12246.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
以這次為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
12246.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
12248.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
大概我們半小時就可以撈出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
12248.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
12250.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
撈出來是一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
12250.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
12252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
通知學校有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
12252.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
12254.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
這樣子的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
12254.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
12256.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
又是另外一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
12256.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
12258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
通知學校我們用各種管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
12258.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
12260.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
一下就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
12260.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
12262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
大概在半天之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
12262.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
12264.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
可以全國通知完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
12264.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
12266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
甚至可以更早 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
12266.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
12268.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
看他使用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
12268.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
12270.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
量或是品名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
12270.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
12272.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
我為什麼要特別提 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
12272.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
12274.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
這件事情的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
12274.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
12276.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
第一因為這次的遊品的影響層面很廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
12276.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12278.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
剛剛其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12278.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12280.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
有委員提到本來是從 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12280.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12282.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
六百多間學校其實現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12282.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12284.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
我們教育部已經更新到八百多間的學校了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12284.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12286.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12286.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12288.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
所以這個學校的數量有可能還在增加當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12288.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12290.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12290.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12292.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
是的 只要衛福部一公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12292.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12294.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
原來譬如說兩百二十兩百三十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12294.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12296.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
後來到四百零一到四百四十 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12296.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12298.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
一公佈我們馬上就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12298.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12300.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
用我們的系統馬上去抓取 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12300.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12302.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
所以我們可以找到現在我們看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12302.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12304.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
應該是八百六十一間的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12304.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12306.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
這個部分大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12306.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12308.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
經過了幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12308.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12310.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
可以告訴我嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12309.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12311.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
那個是在七月最後一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12311.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12313.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12313.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12315.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
上個禮拜颱風假之前我們收到的還是六百多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12315.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12317.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
對對我們就才七 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12317.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12319.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
大概在七月十號這個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12319.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12321.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
在撰寫的時候就是最後一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12321.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12323.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
四百四十的那個品名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12323.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12325.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
為什麼我要特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12325.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12327.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
這件事情剛剛我已經說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12327.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12329.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
其實真的完全完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12329.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12331.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
所謂的這個校園食材登錄的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12331.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12333.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
跟食藥署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12333.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12335.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
即時的通知的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12335.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12337.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
串接這一點我們請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12337.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12339.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
一定要掌握一定要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12339.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12341.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
第二個只要中央公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12341.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12343.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
的所謂的問題的批號我們的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12343.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12345.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
一定要馬上就警示學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12345.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12347.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
那還好現在因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12347.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12349.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
在暑假的期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12349.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12351.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
再來第三但是剛剛其實秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12351.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12353.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
有特別提到了有些幼兒園其實他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12353.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12355.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
現在還在上課當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12355.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12357.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
所以這個部分也麻煩我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12357.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12359.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
教育部這個部分一定要注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12359.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12361.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
再來我們要建立學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12361.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12363.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
校園高風險供應商的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12363.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12365.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
預警的名單不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12365.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12367.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
出了事才停用這個部分我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12367.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12369.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
有沒有辦法可以建立即時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12369.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12371.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
管理風險的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12372.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12374.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12375.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12377.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
供應商的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12405.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12407.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
現在在研議他就永遠不再被用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12407.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12409.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
好多久會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12409.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12411.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
這個機制這個可能在衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12411.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12413.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
最新的一些機制之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12413.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12415.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
整體的源頭面處理完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12415.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12417.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
之後目前已經在跟團善廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12417.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12419.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
食材供應業者去研處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12419.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12421.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
我們現在希望是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12421.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12423.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
源頭面更要管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12423.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
的緊實的同時我們也有一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12425.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12427.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
保障的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12427.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12429.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
就是他敢用他以後就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12429.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12431.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
完全沒有機會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12431.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12433.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
台灣的學校裡面運用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12433.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12435.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
大概什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12435.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12437.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
這個可能我們再配合衛福部的整個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12437.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12439.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12439.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12441.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12441.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12443.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
第二個我請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12443.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12445.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
就是關於所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12445.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12447.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
特教助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12447.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12449.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12451.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
行政院其實去年的年底我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12451.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12453.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
特別調高了高中小學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12453.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12455.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
導師的職務加級跟終點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12455.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12457.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12457.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12459.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
特教的加級去年六月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12459.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12461.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
核定但是延宕到今年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12461.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12463.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
二月才生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12463.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12465.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
才生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12465.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12467.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
近期我們更是正式的核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12467.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12469.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
可以修正回溯到九月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12469.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12471.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
但是關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12471.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12473.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
特教助理員其實分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12473.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
為兩類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12475.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12477.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
這個也是我一直以來一直在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12477.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12479.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
的第一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12479.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12481.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
其實是所謂的特教學生助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12481.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12483.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
第二類是特教教師助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12483.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12485.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
但是先前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12485.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12487.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
我們的調薪跟回溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12487.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12489.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
目前我們看到了只有特教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12489.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12491.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
學生助理員的部分特教 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12491.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12493.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
教師助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12493.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12495.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
完全被排除在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12495.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12497.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
那我想請教一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12497.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12499.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
同樣都是特教助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12499.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12501.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
請問兩位是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12501.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12503.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
都在特教班服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12503.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
是不是每天也都在陪伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12505.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
所謂的特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12507.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12509.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
需求的學生是不是也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12509.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
協助老師來處理學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12511.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12513.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
的教學安全的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12513.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12515.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
生活的輔導關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12515.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12517.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
這兩類的特教助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12517.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12519.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
這邊請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12519.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12521.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12521.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12523.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
委員這有一些在追溯之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12523.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12525.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
還有一些可能會被關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12525.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12527.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12527.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
這其實部長都非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12529.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12531.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
一直要我們跟委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12531.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12533.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
有相關團體或是各別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12533.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12535.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
那種身份的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12535.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12537.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
持續研議能夠給最多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12537.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12539.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
的照顧我們都跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12539.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12541.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
一起來處理因為這一次追溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12541.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12543.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
部長跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12543.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12545.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
我們也一起來協助我們也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12545.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12547.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
有出相關的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12547.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12549.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
我要提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12549.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12551.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
剛剛同樣都在特教的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12551.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
現場其實不應該有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12553.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12555.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
這種所謂的同工卻不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12555.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12557.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
仇的差別待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12557.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12559.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
有聽懂我的意思喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12559.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
那當然其實可能教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12561.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12563.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
會反應給我說沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12563.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12565.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
因為其實這個是兩個不同的法員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12565.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12567.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
一個就是特教學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12567.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12569.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
助理員他們是中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12570.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12572.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
國教署這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12572.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
四年三十億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12574.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12576.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
這樣子的一個特殊的專案補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12576.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12578.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12578.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12580.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
另外一個部分是法員不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
12580.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12582.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
所以因為兩者的法員不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12582.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12584.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
所以才會造成現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12584.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12586.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
有的人有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12586.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12588.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
有的人卻沒有辦法被回溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12588.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12590.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
這個部分其實我們還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12590.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12592.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
繼續的支持繼續的加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12592.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12594.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
請問一下接著下來我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12594.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12596.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
有沒有可能可以把這一塊給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12596.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12598.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
補足不要讓他們在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
12598.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12600.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
有所謂的那種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12601.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12603.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
落差啦心理上的一個落差啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12603.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12605.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12605.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12607.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
委員我們這一次處理的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12607.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12609.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
特教職務加急催促到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12609.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12611.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12611.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12613.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
那委員現在提到的可能現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12613.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12615.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
我們大概四年有一千六百位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12615.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12617.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
的這些特教助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
12617.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12619.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
那因為是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12619.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12621.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
一起來跟縣市努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12621.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12623.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
也是我們創製出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12623.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12625.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
這個我們會跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12625.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12627.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
那部長剛才講好好的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12627.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12629.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
當然這個部分因為是跟各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12629.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12631.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
的他們的預算的編列是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12631.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12633.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
但是問題是雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12633.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12635.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
兩者互不隸屬但是問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12635.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12637.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
兩者跟這些人都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12637.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12639.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
教育的現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
12639.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
12641.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
所以我們一個院內會跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
12641.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12643.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
一起來研習再回報委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12643.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12645.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
我再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12645.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12647.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
我想就算是法源不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12647.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12649.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
也不代表這個待遇就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12649.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12651.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
得要這樣子不公平啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12651.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12653.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
我想這個法規是人定的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
12653.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12655.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
也是教育部這邊可以設計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12655.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12657.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
所以我們希望就算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12657.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12659.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
在這個部分我們把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12659.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12661.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
特教教師助理員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
12661.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12663.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
也納入我們關心的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12663.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12665.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
我們一直不斷地在強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
12665.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12667.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
其實現在我們要留住 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12667.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12669.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
人才啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12669.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12671.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
但問題是在同工卻不同籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12671.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
這種不公平的待遇的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12675.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
其實還是留不住 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12675.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12677.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
人這是最大的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12677.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12679.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
那犧牲的可能就是需要被 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12679.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12681.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
幫助的這些特教生的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12681.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12683.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
好那我再 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12683.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12685.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
佔用一點點的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12685.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12687.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
不好意思請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12687.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12689.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
就是關於基隆幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12689.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12691.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
集體虐童案的一個事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12691.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12693.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
我想這個是讓人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12693.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12695.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
覺得非常觸目驚心的一個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12695.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12697.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
那已知受害的這個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12697.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12699.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
已經超過二十名短短的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12699.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12701.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
九天當中我們從監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12701.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12703.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
的畫面當中可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12703.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12705.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
超過五百段的施虐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12705.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12707.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
的一個片段那剛開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12707.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12709.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
這個基隆市政府他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12709.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12711.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
最初只有裁罰兩名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12711.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12713.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
教保員各四十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12713.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12715.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
還有所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12715.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12717.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
要停招一年負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12717.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12719.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
負責人僅罰了六萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12719.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12721.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
直到社會輿論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12721.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12723.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
譁然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12723.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12725.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
還有家長的震怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12725.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12727.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
市府才七月八號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12727.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12729.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
改口說要廢招 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12729.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12731.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
那將負責人的罰款提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12731.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12733.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
到八十四萬我想在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12733.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12735.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
這裡問一下根據我們中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12735.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12737.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
教保服務人員條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12737.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12739.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
勤貼重大者本來就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12739.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12741.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
直接廢招而不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12741.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12743.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
等到輿論發酵之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12743.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12745.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
這個部分我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12745.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12747.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
教育部有沒有掌握基隆市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12747.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12749.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
教育處他們在調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12749.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12751.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
的過程當中到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12751.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12753.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
是對法規的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12753.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12755.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
不足還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12755.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12757.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
處置慢半拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12757.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12759.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12759.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12761.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
謝謝委員這一個指正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12761.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12763.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
因為確實我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12763.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
12765.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
這個六二十八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
12765.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
12767.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
這些事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
12767.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
12769.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
出現以後我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
12769.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
12771.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
國教署就很快速的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
12771.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
12773.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
行文要這個基隆市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
12773.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
12775.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
要這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
12775.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
12777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
調查這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
12777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
12779.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
依法一定要這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
12779.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
12781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
把他查處清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
12781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
12783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
然後我們目前這 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
12783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
12785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
整個幼兒園的一個小孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
12785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
12787.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
會員以後他總共有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
12787.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
12789.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
五十八位這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
12789.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
12791.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
幼兒園也大概已經都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
12791.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
12793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
基隆市政府已經都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
12793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
12795.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
協助這個安置轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
12795.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
12797.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
到其他的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
12797.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
12799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
然後目前只有剩下一位還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
12799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
12801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
12801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
12803.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
這個是後續的安置 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
12803.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
12805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
後續的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
12805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
12807.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
12807.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
12809.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
國教署都與此在掌握中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
12809.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
12811.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
那當然這個事後整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
12811.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
12813.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
整個事件告一個段落 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
12813.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
12815.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
到底我們在整個流程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
12815.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
12817.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
我們未來會檢視他整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
12817.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
12819.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
這個處理的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
12819.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
12821.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
我們的說漏在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
12821.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
12823.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
因為我想教育部還是要承擔起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
12823.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
12825.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
中央督導地方的一個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
12825.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
12827.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
另外其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
12827.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
12829.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
包含這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
12829.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
12831.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
基隆市議長其實他也 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
12831.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
12833.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
特別提到了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
12833.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
12835.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
雖然有所謂的兒少處 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
12835.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
12837.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
但兒少處跟教育處的權責不分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
12837.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
12839.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
疊床駕屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
12839.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
12841.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
也導致所謂的這個事前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
12841.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
12843.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
內控失靈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
12843.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
12845.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
事中不斷的推諉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
12845.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
12847.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
這個部分請問部長我們有解放嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
12847.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
12849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
我們如何真實的來指導地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
12849.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
12851.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
我想未來地方上的復工 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
12851.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
12853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
本來復工還是要合作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
12853.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
12855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
那怎麼樣有這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
12855.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
12857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
漢閣這一個落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
12857.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
12859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
我想我們都會一併來這個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
12859.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
12861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
我想我們要的不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
12861.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
12863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
我們要的不是所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
12863.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
12865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
縣市首長的眼淚啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
12865.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
12867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
我們不是只有他看了影片之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
12867.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
12869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
都掉眼淚而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
12869.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
12871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
我們要的是真正有能力能夠預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
12871.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
12873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
而且來處理所謂的兒虐的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
12873.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
12875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
教學的前線的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
12875.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
12877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
教學本來就是一個利益良產 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
12877.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
12879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
希望有更多的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
12879.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
12881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
但是這個有落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
12881.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
12883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
我想我們教育部在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
12883.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
12885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
要拿出更堅定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
12885.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
12887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
而且要拿出更強硬的都倒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
12887.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
12889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
一個作為這個部分可以承諾我嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
12889.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
12891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
12891.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
12893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
好謝謝以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
12893.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
12895.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
謝謝委員執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
12896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
12898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
請補充回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
12898.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
12900.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
接下來請蔡村仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
12900.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
12902.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
12913.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
12915.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
12915.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
12917.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
12923.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
12925.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
12925.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
12927.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
剛剛有很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
12927.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
12929.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
都是針對進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
12929.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
12931.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
燃燒的一個獨有的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
12931.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
12933.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
跟那個部長做一個交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
12938.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
12940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
那我仍然 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
12940.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
12942.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
還是要在這裡再跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
12942.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
12944.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
12944.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
12946.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
這個是非常嚴重的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
12946.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
12948.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
對於校園來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
12948.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
12950.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
這是一個非常嚴重的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
12950.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
12952.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
因為教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
12952.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
12954.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
他是根據衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
12954.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
12956.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
那個食藥署7日公布了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
12956.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
12958.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
新增的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
12958.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
12960.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
有360家受到影響的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
12960.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
12962.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
12962.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
12964.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
232項的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
12964.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
12966.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
產品資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
12966.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
12968.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
12968.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
12970.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
運用在校園的一個食材登錄以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
12970.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
12972.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
竟然疑似 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
12972.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
12974.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
有623所的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
12974.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
12976.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
12976.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
12978.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
258所的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
12978.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
12980.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
那我要請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
12980.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
12982.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
12982.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
12984.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
在提供各地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
12984.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
12986.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
政府教育局處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
12986.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
12988.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
後續追蹤的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
12988.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
12990.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
12990.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
12992.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
能夠把這個後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
12992.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
12994.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
在整個獨有在學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
12994.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
12996.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
這個過程裡面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
12996.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
12998.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
這個報告相關的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
12998.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13000.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
什麼時候會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13003.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
13005.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
13005.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
13007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
事件一出生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
13007.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13009.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
依法線的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13009.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
我們7月1號就已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
13011.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
13013.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
前面透過這個登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13013.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
就已經找到學校用這三家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13015.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
13017.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13017.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
13019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
然後進一步我們跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
13019.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
趕快的就去清查那些品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
13021.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
13023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
所以7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
13023.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
13025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
國教署已經跟地方已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
13025.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
13027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
在平台裡面我們就掌握了所有的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
13027.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
那隨著 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
13029.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
13031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
剛才委員所提的這個7月7號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
13031.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
是這個食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
13033.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
裡面第二波公佈的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
13035.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
13037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
這個232的品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
13037.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
13039.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
我們馬上又 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
13039.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13041.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
這個根據一些新的證據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
13041.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
13043.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
又前面請地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
13043.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13045.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
13045.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
13047.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
那接著後面再有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13047.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
13049.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
第三波的公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
13049.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
13051.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
我們事實上是完全快速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
13051.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
13053.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
反應而且跟地方合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
13054.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
快速的在學校裡邊的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
13056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13058.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
營養午餐裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
13058.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
13060.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
全面下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
13060.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13062.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
有問題的這些有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
13062.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13064.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
那從7月1號的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
13064.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13066.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
一個支出的比對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
13066.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13068.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
一直到7月7號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13068.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13070.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
這個中間這個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13070.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13072.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
相差很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13072.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13074.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
這個就讓人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13074.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13076.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
就非常的非常的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13076.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13078.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
擔心那在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13078.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13080.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
我還要剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13080.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13082.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
有委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13082.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13084.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
我這裡有講到258所的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13084.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13086.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
那幼兒園目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13086.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13088.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
都還是在上課當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13088.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13090.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
那這個食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13090.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13092.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
本黨台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13092.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13094.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
對這個幼兒非常的一個注重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13094.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13096.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
所以我們一直認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13096.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13098.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
幼兒園必須納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13098.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13100.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
營養午餐的一個專法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13100.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13102.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
來做一個保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13102.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13104.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
就是幼兒所 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13104.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13106.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
必須是交易部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13106.76 |
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13108.76 |
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一定要守重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13108.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
13110.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
要來保護的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
13110.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
13112.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
那目前幼兒園都還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
13112.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
13114.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
上課當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
13114.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
13116.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
那在這個部分交易部要掌握多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
13119.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
13121.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
他說幼兒園現在上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
13121.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
13123.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
暑假延拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
13123.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
13125.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
暑假延拖的幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
13125.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
13127.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
那現在是達到了94% |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
13127.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
13129.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
的元素 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
13129.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
13130.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
13132.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
13134.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
那這些食物 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13134.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
13136.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
他們目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
13136.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
13138.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
營養午餐的這些食物呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
13138.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
13140.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
都有掌握住 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
13140.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
13142.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
是安全的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
13142.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
13144.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
現在暑假的部分幼兒園的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
13144.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
13146.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
大概有3032元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
13146.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
13148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
那國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
13150.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
小高中大概有40個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
13150.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
13152.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
暑假期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
13152.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
13154.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
他們有一些活動或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
13154.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
13156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
有些課會供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
13156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
13158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
那這個部分都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
13158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
13160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
有掌握住 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
13160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
13162.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
也要掌握是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
13162.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
13164.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
13164.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
13166.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
這個衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
13166.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
13168.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
從這裡可以看出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
13168.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
13170.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
衛福部在執行上是很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
13170.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
13172.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
一個失利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
13172.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
13174.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
這執行力是讓人家非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
13174.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
13176.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
13176.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
13178.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
所以剛剛衛福部也有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
13178.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
13180.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
從這個報告裡面也有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
13180.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
13182.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
致癌的一個致癌油 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
13182.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
13184.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
風暴從 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
13184.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
13186.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
1300公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
13186.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
13188.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
暴增到2600噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
13188.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
13190.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
那麼現在剛剛衛福部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
13190.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
13192.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
還有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
13192.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
13194.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
可能會達到27000噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
13194.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
13196.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
所以我們還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
13196.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
13198.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
我們的教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
13198.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
13200.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
對於校園的一個食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
13200.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
13202.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
一定要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
13202.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
13204.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
掌控 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
13204.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
13206.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
讓我們的學生讓我們的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
13206.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
13208.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
都能夠安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
13208.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
13210.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
所以教育部不要一直喊口號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
13210.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
13212.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
就是說一定要確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
13212.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
13214.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
學生的安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
13214.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
13216.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
安心就學家長安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
13216.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
13218.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
我們沒有喊口號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
13218.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
13220.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
沒有我是說你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
13220.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
13222.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
報告裡面都有一再的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
13222.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
13224.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
這樣的寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
13224.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
13226.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
當然做到最好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
13226.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
13228.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
我們就是在叮嚀教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
13228.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
13230.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
就是在口號必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
13230.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
13232.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
當事件發生以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
13232.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
13234.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
國教署跟地方的一個合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
13234.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
13236.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
我想應該可以肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
13236.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
13238.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
做這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
13238.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
13240.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
也讓委員知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
13240.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
13242.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
因為我們目前的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
13242.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
13244.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
有兩百多萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
13244.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
13246.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
那因為現在還好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
13246.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
13248.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
就是暑假期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
13248.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
13250.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
如果今天不是在暑假期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
13250.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
13252.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
是在課堂當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
13252.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
13254.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
那請問教育部你們有沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
13254.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
13256.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
危機處理的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
13256.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
13258.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
先想一下萬一這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
13258.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
13260.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
很僥倖的很幸運的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
13260.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
13262.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
這個獨有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
13262.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
13264.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
剛好是在暑假期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
13264.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
13266.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
如果是在課堂當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
13266.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
13268.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
那教育部你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
13268.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
13270.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
當然一發現所有的油品我們一定會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
13270.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
13272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
第一個時間全部下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
13272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13274.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
團散這裡邊我們事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
13274.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
13276.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
我相信就團散來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
13276.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
13278.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
他們也不願意提供的一個菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
13278.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
13280.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
這個油品是不健康不安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
13280.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
13282.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
我想這都是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
13282.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13284.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
我們在從 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13284.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13286.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
中央跟地方還有許多的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13286.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13288.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
裡面跟團散上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13288.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13290.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
都是有一個非常嚴謹的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13290.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13292.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
一個程序跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13292.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13294.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
定點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13294.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13296.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
我們希望能夠保持這樣的一個默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13296.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13298.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
那在這裡我還是要提醒教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13298.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13300.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
就是說教育部不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13300.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13302.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
跟著衛福部的一個滾動式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13302.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
教育部應該要化被動為主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13304.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13306.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
就是在校園的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13306.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
我們甚至都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
超前衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13312.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
來對於學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13312.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13314.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
這樣的一個食安的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13314.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13316.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
一個問題能夠超前來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13316.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13318.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
做一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13318.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13320.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
在這裡還是要跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13320.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
當然我們是肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13324.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
剛剛我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13324.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13326.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
還有國教署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13326.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13328.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
都有對於學校的一些處置的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13328.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13330.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
一個方式都有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13330.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13332.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
處置在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13332.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13334.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
我也是做肯定但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13334.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13336.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
我們還是要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13336.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13338.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
我們部長在學校的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13338.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13340.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
的問題我們都是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13340.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13342.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
重中之重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13342.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13344.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
嚴謹去處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13344.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13346.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13347.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13349.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13349.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
最後在6月29號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13351.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
北市曾經對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13353.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
極端氣候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13355.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
對於彰廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13357.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
提出營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13359.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13363.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
因為氣候的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13363.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13365.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
那麼營養午餐的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13365.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13369.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
要如何來保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13369.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13371.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
所以我們希望教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13371.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13373.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
能夠看見地灣的災情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13373.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13375.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
然後關心全國協同的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13375.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13377.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
營養健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13377.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13379.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
所以尤其這一次發生全國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13379.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13381.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
重大食安的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13381.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13383.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
雖然目前我剛剛講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13383.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13385.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
暑假期間還好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13385.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13387.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
那麼我們希望教育部能夠提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13387.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13389.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
一個危機處理的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13389.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13391.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
那不管是在氣候的變遷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13391.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13393.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
或者是食安的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13393.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13395.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
都有馬上有一套 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13395.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13397.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
一個危機處理的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13397.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13399.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
只要碰到問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13399.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13401.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
都能夠馬上來解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13401.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13403.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
我覺得這個是我們必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13403.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13405.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
要針對教育部來做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13405.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13407.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
確實我們怎麼去落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13407.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13409.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
定期跟不定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13409.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13411.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13411.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13413.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
生產線上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13413.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13415.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
源頭上的一個管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13415.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13417.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
雖然不是教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13417.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13419.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
一個權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13419.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13421.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
但是我想我們這個衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13421.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13423.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
他們也非常清楚在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13423.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13425.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
怎麼樣去跟地方的產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13425.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13427.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
能夠有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13427.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13429.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
更強的預防的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13429.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13431.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
我想我們跨部會一定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13431.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
合作的 需要的時候我們一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13433.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13435.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
也會來協助看怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13435.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13437.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
大家來做好這個食安的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13437.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13439.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
校園這個營養午餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13439.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13441.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
一個安全的管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13441.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13443.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
從這個事件來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13443.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
可以看出全台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13445.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13447.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
所有的民眾大概都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13447.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13449.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
吃到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13449.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13451.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
獨有的這個食品 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13451.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13453.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
更何況是我們的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13453.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13455.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
應該都逃不過的 那麼我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13455.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13457.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
就是類似這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13457.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13459.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
我們要做一個危機處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13459.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13461.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
我還是要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13461.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13463.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
今天教育部還有衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13463.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13465.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
各個行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13465.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13467.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
食品的安全辦公室等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13467.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13469.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
跨部會都有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13469.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13471.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
那麼本行中心的期望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13471.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13473.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
行政院 教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13473.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13475.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
還有相關部會 尤其是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13475.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13477.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
能夠切身的感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13477.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13479.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
食安的危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13479.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13481.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
關心並保障全國的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13481.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13483.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
校園食安 還有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13483.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13485.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
協同的一個營養健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13485.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13487.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
真的是我對教育部的一個期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13487.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13489.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
那下面這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13489.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13491.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
我們就回到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13491.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13493.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
那個學校的一個教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13493.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13495.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
我想今天這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13495.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13497.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
針對學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13497.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13499.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
學生出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13499.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13501.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
還有教師的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13501.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13503.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
停病的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13503.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13505.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
之前的一個辦法提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13505.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13507.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
一些跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
13507.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13509.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
做一個交流 那我想今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
13509.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13511.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
現在這個有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13511.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13513.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
校園的這樣一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13513.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13515.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
我把它定調為說108 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13515.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13517.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13517.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13519.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
做一個評鑑跟檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13519.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13521.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
那我要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13521.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13523.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
剛剛呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13523.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13525.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
有很多委員針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13525.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13527.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
那個家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13528.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
就是提告一個老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
這個他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13534.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
因為教學生要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13534.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13536.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
要求他七點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13536.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13538.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
要來學校 這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13538.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13540.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13540.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13542.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
都有跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13542.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13544.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
做一個交流的 在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13544.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13546.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
我只是要再跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13546.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13548.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
部長交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13548.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13550.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
一下 就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13550.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13552.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
人台中地院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13552.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13554.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13554.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13556.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
都說守時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13556.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13558.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
是為一般人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13558.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13560.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
應該基本的一個品格 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13560.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13562.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
跟教養 那在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13562.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13564.37 |
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我要跟部長分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13564.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13566.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
就是目前暑假期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13566.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13568.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
我們大家都在封 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13568.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13570.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
國際賽 國際的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13570.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13572.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
足球賽 那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13572.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13574.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
挪威 挪威的一個進球 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13574.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13576.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
機器 這個哈蘭德 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13576.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13578.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13578.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13580.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
結出了一個足球選手 他就說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13580.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
13582.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
他在11歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
13582.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
13584.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
到15歲的這個啟蒙的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
13584.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
13586.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
足球教練 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13586.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13588.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
這個教練叫做拜恩赫森 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13588.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13590.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
他說 他對於球隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13590.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13592.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
他只有三個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13592.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13594.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
第一就是要準時 第二就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13594.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13596.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
要盡全力 第三要守規矩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13596.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13598.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
那這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13598.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13600.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
三個這樣的要求 對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13600.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13602.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
這個選手他說他終身 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13602.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13604.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
受用 那在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13604.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13606.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
我就是要跟部長分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13606.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13608.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
這個不就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13608.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13610.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
學校最基本要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13610.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13612.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
我們學生應該有的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13612.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13614.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
品格 品格教育嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13614.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13616.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
還有我要跟部長分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13616.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13618.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
就是 有之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13618.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13620.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
我辦一個公聽會 有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13620.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13622.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
老師跟校長都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13622.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13624.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
目前學校最乖 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13624.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13626.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
最守秩序的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13626.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13628.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
運動校隊 那為什麼會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13628.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13630.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
運動校隊 一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13630.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
運動校隊他要有成就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13632.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
他就是要從他的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13634.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
品格教育來教取 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
不是教技術 技術是其次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13638.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
只要你一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13640.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
生活態度 學習精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13642.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
只要達到教練一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13644.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
一個要求 那麼這個學生一定會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13646.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
有成就 所以我們是要借用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13648.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
這樣的一個借鏡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13650.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
運動選手的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13652.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13654.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
嚴格的信念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13654.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13656.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
嚴格的信念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13656.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13658.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
可以得到 翻轉他一個人生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13658.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13660.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
所以在這裡我要跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13660.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13662.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
部長 我們教育不能再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13662.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13664.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
鬆綁了 因為呢 我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13664.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13666.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
教育鬆綁了 造成很多現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13666.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13668.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
目前學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13668.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13670.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
的一個 問題會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13670.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13672.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
這麼多 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13672.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13674.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
部長你對於人格 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13674.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13676.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
品格教育啊 我也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13676.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13678.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
上次在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13678.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13680.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
彰要次長的時候 我也一直在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13680.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13682.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
強調學校的 學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13682.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13684.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
品格教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13684.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13686.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
一定要加強 我要請那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13686.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13688.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
你表示一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13688.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13690.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
我想我的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13690.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13692.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
基本上我們的態度是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13692.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
學生在從小裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13696.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
養成良好的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13696.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
品格行為規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13700.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
我想那是一個國民教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13700.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13702.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
每一個國民裡邊我們期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13702.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13704.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
的一個教育的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13704.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
怎麼樣有一個剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
委員特別提到了這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
用挪威的這個準時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
盡全力然後守規矩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
我想那也都是我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
這一個國民教育裡邊一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
基本的一個對人才培育上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13720.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
一個這一個教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13720.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13722.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13722.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
所以我們也非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
台中地院對這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13728.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
這一個不當的一個控訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13728.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
本來老師就本以他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
專業指導學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13734.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
那我們也略見看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13734.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13736.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
台中地院對這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13736.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13738.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
學生家跟家長的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13738.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13740.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
不當的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13740.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13742.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
控訴啊這一個給以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13742.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13744.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
這一個等於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13744.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13746.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13746.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13748.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
要求部長對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13748.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13750.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
學校所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13750.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13752.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
現在目前有幾個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13752.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13754.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
還有禮儀廉恥 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13754.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
這樣的一個校訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
然後對於學生的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13760.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
品格教育尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13760.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
13762.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
上課之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
13762.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
13764.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
以前我們學校7點半上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
13764.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
13766.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
現在改成8點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
13766.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
13768.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
那以前7點半上課有很多遲到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
13768.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
13770.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
學生他7點45分才來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
13770.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
13772.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
中間還有15分鐘可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
13772.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
13774.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
做一個緩和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
13774.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
13776.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
那現在8點上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
13776.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
13778.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
8點10分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
13778.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
13780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
來學校8點10分就上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
13780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
13782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
那有多少的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
13782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
13784.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
都是遲到的那現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
13784.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
13786.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
有很多學生他迷戀 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
13786.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
13788.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
網路所以晚上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
13788.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
13790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
都不睡覺的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
13790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
13792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
那一大早不是遲到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
13792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
13794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
來到那個教室是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
13794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
13796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
那在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
13796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
13798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
13798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
13800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
有看到教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
13800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
13802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
教育部的書面報告有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
13802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
13804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
為了避免重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
13804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
13806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
處分那個寬課學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
13806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
13808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
所以上課總初期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
13808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
13810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
沒有達到三分之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
13810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
13812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
就拿不到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
13812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
13814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
問題呢拿不到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
13814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
13816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
但是可以拿到休業證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
13816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
13818.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
那目前的一個教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
13818.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
13820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
你們要拿到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
13820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
13822.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
拿到休業證書是可以考大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
13823.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
13825.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
那請問一下部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
13825.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
13827.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
那這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
13827.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
13829.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
對於你這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
13829.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
13831.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
這個評量的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
13831.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
13833.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
有效率嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
13832.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
13834.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
13834.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
13836.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
怎麼樣以實具性有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
13836.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
13838.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
對學生老師授予這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
13838.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
13840.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
更高的一個專業的一個管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
13840.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
13842.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
或者學生行為的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
13842.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
13844.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
我同意應該以實具性 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
13844.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
13846.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
但剛才委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
13846.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
13848.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
這高中生他沒有畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
13848.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
13850.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
他就可以用同等學歷來考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
13850.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
13852.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
這至少在這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
13852.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
13854.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
就我的記憶至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
13854.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
13856.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
超過二十年或者甚至三十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
13856.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
13858.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
以上了也就是說過去他一路 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
13858.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
13860.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
來那但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
13860.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
13862.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
比例沒有那麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
13862.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
13864.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
我同意我們怎麼樣以實具性來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
13864.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
13866.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
做檢討我講這是應該的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
13866.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
13868.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
13868.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
13870.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
13870.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
13872.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
我們要談到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
13872.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
13874.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
13874.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
13876.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
我在六月二十四號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
13876.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
13878.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
還有質詢到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
13878.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
13880.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
一個教師依法輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
13880.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
13882.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
跟管教學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
13882.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
13884.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
仍然必須就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
13884.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
13886.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
禁止對學生體罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
13886.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
13888.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
連隔說辱這個都沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
13888.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
13890.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
正當老師採取正當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
13891.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
13893.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
可以比例延遲的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
13893.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
13895.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
維持秩序的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
13895.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
13897.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
教育部必須給他一個制度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
13897.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
13899.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
制度的一個後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
13899.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
13901.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
做他的制度的一個後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
13901.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
13903.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
跟我們報告我們教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
13903.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
13905.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
教師解聘不續聘的這裡邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
13905.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
13907.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
法令的相關規定他已經明文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
13907.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
13909.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
老師本以這一個專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
13909.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
13911.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
來指的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
13911.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
13913.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
管教學生是不受罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
13913.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
13915.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
就是說法令上已經都有明文上的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
13915.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
13917.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
13917.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
13919.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
我也理解這樣一個法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
13919.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
13921.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
到這個第一線上的中小學 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
13921.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
13923.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
這個裡邊的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
13923.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
13925.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
難免會有一個效用上的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
13925.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
13927.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
13927.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
13929.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
這我想我們來提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
13929.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
13931.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
地方跟怎麼來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
13931.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
13933.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
第一線上的這些老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
13933.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
13935.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
我想這是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
13935.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
13937.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
那在教師法第八款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
13937.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
13939.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
也有很明定的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
13939.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
13941.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
如果老師已經進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
13941.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
13943.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
司法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
13943.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
13945.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
學校有義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
13945.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
13947.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
來幫他聘請律師來辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
13947.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
13949.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
那麼我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
13949.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
13951.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
教義部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
13951.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
13953.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
當然是最好不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
13953.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
13955.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
如果有這樣的一個現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
13955.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
13957.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
教義部是不是能夠來貫徹執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
13957.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
13959.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
就是說老師如果有進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
13959.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
13961.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
13961.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
13963.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
教義部有權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
13963.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
13965.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
所以要幫他聘請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
13965.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
13967.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
律師來幫他辯護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
13967.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
13969.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
在這個地方我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
13969.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
13971.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
教義部能夠執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
13971.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
13973.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
13973.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
13975.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
在我6月24號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
13975.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
13977.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
當了張廖次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
13977.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
13979.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
做了兩次的交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
13979.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
13981.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
就是說校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
13981.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
13983.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
為什麼會這麼亂言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
13983.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
13985.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
會這麼混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
13985.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
13987.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
事實上我就提出一個想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
13987.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
13989.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
就是說我們能不能設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
13989.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
13991.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
一個諮詢委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
13991.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
13993.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
這個諮詢委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
13993.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
13995.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
能夠先把所有申訴的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
13995.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
13997.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
在這個諮詢委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
13997.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
13999.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
做一個過濾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
14000.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
14002.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
校長還有當事人老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
14002.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
14004.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
都不知道這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
14004.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
14006.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
讓老師能夠安心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
14006.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
14008.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
教學讓校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
14008.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
14010.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
也能夠安心的治癒學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
14010.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
14012.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
不要一下子就進到學校來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
14012.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
14014.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
還要讓老師讓這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
14014.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
14016.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
校長老師來三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
14016.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
14018.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
做說明這樣子的話你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
14018.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14020.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
老師本身基於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14020.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14022.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
他的一個專業住址 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14022.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14024.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
他對於學生的一個管教是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14024.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14026.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
合理的時候還要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14026.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14028.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
這個三方來做這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14028.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14030.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
我覺得這個對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14030.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14032.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
老師還有校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14032.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14034.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
都是很大的一個傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14034.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14036.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
所以我在這裡已經第三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14036.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14038.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
提供教育部能不能成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14038.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14040.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
這樣一個諮詢委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14040.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14042.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
希望教育部能夠來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
14042.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
14044.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
評量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
14044.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
14046.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
是不是合適 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
14046.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
14048.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
諮詢委員會應該自在哪一個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
14048.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
14050.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
當然這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
14050.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
14052.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
教育部的前線我希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
14052.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
14054.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
考慮這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
14054.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
14056.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
諮詢委員會在這裡跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
14056.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
14058.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
部長做一個交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
14058.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
14060.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
謝謝委員的這個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
14060.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
14062.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
因為我們上個禮拜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
14062.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
14064.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
全國教育局處首長會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
14064.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
14066.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
確實有地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
14066.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
14068.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
比如說高雄市他建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
14068.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
14070.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
在還沒有進入這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
14070.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
14072.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
之前他們就可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
14072.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
14074.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
有第三方的一個調節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
14074.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
14076.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
這一個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
14076.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
14078.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
14078.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
14080.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
但是這個第三方會讓校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
14080.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
14082.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
跟老師都知道這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
14082.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
14084.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
這一個如果有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
14084.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
14086.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
軍師上或者管教上的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
14086.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
14088.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
是不是在全員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
14088.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
14090.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
不是由學校來認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
14090.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
14092.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
是由地方教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
14092.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
14094.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
來組這樣的調議委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
14094.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
14096.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
來直接來認定以免 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
14096.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
14098.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
造成學校的一些困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
14098.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
14100.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
我想這一個部分當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
14100.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
14102.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
我們都保留就是說我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
14102.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
14104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
本來大家就希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
14104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
14106.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
學生的授教權怎麼樣去維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
14106.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
14108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
然後也讓老師能夠充分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
14108.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
14110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
的花費他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
14110.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
14112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
專業的一個教學權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
14112.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
14114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
這個部分是大家的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
14114.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
14116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
都是一致的我們看怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
14116.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
14118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
讓這一個能夠有更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
14118.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
14120.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
保護老師就是在保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
14120.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
14122.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
學生的一個授教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
14122.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
14124.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
所以我們在這裡還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
14124.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
14125.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
教育部能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
14125.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
14127.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
希望軍師能夠有更多的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
14127.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
14129.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
能夠信任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
14129.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
14131.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
最後我要再跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
14131.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
14133.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
部長交流一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
14133.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
14135.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
我剛剛講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
14135.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
14137.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
學生沒有畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
14137.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
14139.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
但是他可以拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
14139.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
14141.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
那個結業證書仍然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
14141.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
14143.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
可以考大學但是這個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
14143.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
14145.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
很嚇人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
14145.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
14147.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
目前因為高三學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
14147.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
14149.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
總數因為少子化的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
14149.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
14151.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
減了三成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
14151.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
14153.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
但是沒有拿到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
14153.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
14155.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
僅拿到休業證書的一個人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
14155.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
14157.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
竟然是逆勢反增 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
14157.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
14159.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
全國高中畢業生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
14159.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
14161.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
降到88.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
14161.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
14163.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
畢業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
14163.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
14165.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
學生88.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
14165.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
14167.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
就有一成多的學生是拿不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
14167.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
14169.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
畢業證書就是說十個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
14169.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
14171.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
十個高中生有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
14171.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
14173.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
有一個學生他是拿不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
14173.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
14175.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
畢業證書但是他可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
14175.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
14177.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
拿結業證書去考大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
14177.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
14179.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
這個剛剛我跟校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
14179.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
14181.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
那個部長已經有做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
14181.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
14183.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
溝通了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
14183.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
14185.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
所以呢我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
14185.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
14187.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
這個是我們要參考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
14187.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
14189.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
這個制度到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
14189.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
14191.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
我們本來是留級制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
14191.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
14193.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
那現在改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
14193.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
14195.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
協分制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
14195.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
14197.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
這個協分制造成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
14197.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
14199.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
沒有辦法拿到畢業證書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
14199.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
14201.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
因為有很多學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
14201.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
14203.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
他沒有時間修協分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
14203.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
14205.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
那寒暑假還有很多課業 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
14205.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
14207.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
但是因為他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
14207.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
14209.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
協分制他必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
14209.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
14211.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
有一些課沒有過的或是沒有修的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
14211.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
14213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
他必須要利用寒暑假去修 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
14213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
14215.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
但是他沒有時間修 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
14215.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
14217.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
那也修不完而且有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
14217.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
14219.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
有修也沒有效果所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
14219.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
14221.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
他寧願因為現在可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
14221.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
14223.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
沒有畢業證書也沒有關係我仍然可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
14223.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
14225.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
考大學所以我們希望在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
14225.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
14227.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
這個制度上是不是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
14227.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
14229.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
要做一個通盤的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
14229.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
14231.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
應該要如何呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
14231.37 |
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讓這樣的一個 |
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14233.37 |
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問題不要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
14235.37 |
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14237.37 |
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有將近一成的學生 |
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14237.37 |
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14239.37 |
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沒有拿到畢業證書 |
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14239.37 |
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14241.37 |
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但是他可以考大學 |
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14241.37 |
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14243.37 |
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那個部長你的看法 |
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14243.37 |
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14245.37 |
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我想謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
14245.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
14247.37 |
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委員的一個提醒跟指正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
14248.72 |
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14250.72 |
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取消留級制度是在民國103年 |
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14253.07 |
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14255.07 |
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也就是說在那一個時空 |
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14255.07 |
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14257.07 |
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大家總覺得說 |
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14257.07 |
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14259.07 |
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不要用留級 |
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14259.07 |
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14261.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
留級的一個制度 |
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14261.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
14263.07 |
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來限制學生 |
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14263.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
14265.07 |
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許多的一些發展跟可能 |
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14265.07 |
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14267.07 |
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當然比較典範上 |
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14267.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
14269.07 |
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會希望能夠學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
14269.07 |
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14271.07 |
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學習前讓他有更大的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
14271.07 |
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14273.07 |
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但是當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
14273.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
14275.07 |
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103年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
14275.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
14277.07 |
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也十幾年到底要不要 |
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14277.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
14279.07 |
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有一個重新的思考 |
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14279.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
14281.07 |
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我想這個我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
14281.07 |
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14283.07 |
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是可以 |
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14283.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
14285.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
可以來討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
14285.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
14287.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
那我們希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
14287.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
14289.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
取消留級制的制度 |
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14289.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
14291.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
到底他的問題出在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
14291.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
14293.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
要如何來做一個調整 |
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14293.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
14295.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
我們也希望教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
14295.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
14297.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
能夠來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
14297.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
14299.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
全盤的考量 |
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14299.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
14301.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
所以 |
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14301.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
14303.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
因為高中12年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
14303.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
14305.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
教育他還是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
14305.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
14307.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
義務教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
14307.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
14309.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
適性養材 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
14309.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
14311.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
然後我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
14311.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
14313.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
不希望說有很多的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
14313.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
14315.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
他受到這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
14315.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
14317.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
福利但是他又 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
14317.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
14319.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
不認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
14319.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
14321.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
所以教育資源不應該是廉價 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
14321.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
14323.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
廉價的施捨 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
14323.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
14325.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
所以我們反對胡亂的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
14325.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
14327.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
齊頭式的假平等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
14327.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
14329.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
所以我們希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
14329.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
14331.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
還是能夠對於這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
14331.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
14333.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
制度能夠做一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
14333.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
14335.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
最後還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
14335.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
14337.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
有兩個地方反應上來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
14337.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
14339.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
就是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
14339.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
14341.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
在這個學期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
14341.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
14343.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
有把那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
14343.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
14345.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
中小學老師的一個終點會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
14345.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
14347.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
做一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
14347.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
14349.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
但是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
14349.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
14351.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
據我了解高中端沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
14351.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
14353.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
他們都有拿到新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
14353.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
14355.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
終點會的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
14355.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
14357.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
14357.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
14359.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
但是在國中端 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
14359.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
14361.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
國中以下的學校到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
14361.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
14363.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
還是拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
14363.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
14365.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
舊式的一個終點會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
14365.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
14367.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
那麼我們希望教育部能夠了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
14367.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
14369.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
14369.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
14371.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
這個應該當初在做一個調整的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
14371.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
14373.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
14373.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
14375.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
會計應該都有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
14375.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
14377.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
這樣的一個提報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
14377.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
14379.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
但是目前為止是沒有拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
14379.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
14381.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
還沒有拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
14381.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
14383.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
不知道部長知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
14383.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
14385.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
我想這個法令上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
14385.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
14387.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
已經都改變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
14387.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
14389.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
地方如果還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
14389.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
14391.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
這個補給老師我想我們再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
14391.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
14393.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
14393.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
14395.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
通知他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
14395.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
14397.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
趕快補正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
14397.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
14399.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
這是因為我幫忙反應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
14399.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
14401.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
14401.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
14403.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
目前部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
14403.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
14405.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
對於地方的視察都非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
14405.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
14407.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
也對地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
14407.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
14409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
的教育也非常的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
14409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
14411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
14411.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
14413.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
14413.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
14415.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
在7月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
14415.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
14417.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
在銀林辦了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
14417.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
14419.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
教育考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
14419.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
14421.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
在這裡誠懇的邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
14421.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
14423.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
部長還有署長能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
14423.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
14425.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
陪同一起到銀林來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
14425.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
14427.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
做一個考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
14427.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
14429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
希望部長能夠把 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
14429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
14431.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
時間排出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
14431.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
14433.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
14433.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
14435.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
我們還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
14439.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
14441.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
14441.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
14443.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
要檢討學分制還有重修機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
14443.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
14445.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
在兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
14445.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
14447.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
兩個月內針對108 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
14447.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
14449.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
課綱實施後各縣市高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
14449.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
14451.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
為畢業率飆高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
14451.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
14453.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
的一個線上提出一個專案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
14453.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
14455.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
調查並能夠研擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
14455.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
14457.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
如何重塑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
14457.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
14459.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
課堂的一個自信跟協力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
14459.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
14461.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
法官機制然後也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
14461.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
14463.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
教育部能夠重新評估教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
14463.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
14465.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
的補助是否合理化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
14465.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
14467.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
然後重新審 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
14467.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
14469.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
各項教育補助的一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
14469.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
14471.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
將資源引導到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
14471.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
14473.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
一個真正的獎益進取 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
14473.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
14475.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
然後扶持進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
14475.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
14477.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
建議付出跟收獲的一個相稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
14477.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
14479.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
一個真正的公平交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
14480.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
14482.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
麻煩教育部能夠提出這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
14482.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
14484.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
書論報告到評判 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
14484.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
14486.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
以上跟部長就交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
14491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
14493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
好 部長請出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
14502.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
14504.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
下一位01警委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
14511.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
14513.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
有請鄭部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
14520.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
14522.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
部長辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
14522.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
14524.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
就你今晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
14524.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
14526.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
我第九號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
14526.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
14528.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
教文委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
14529.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
14531.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
請問吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
14531.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
14533.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
加油啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
14533.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
14535.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
上週七號八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
14535.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
14537.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
一連兩天有在新的官 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
14537.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
14539.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
古板全國教育局處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
14539.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
14541.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
14541.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
14543.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
那會中大家都有持續對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
14543.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
14545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
校事會有提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
14545.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
14547.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
14547.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
14549.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
那彭署長也有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
14549.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
14551.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
這個新制上路後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
14551.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
14553.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
分析報告會在7月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
14553.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
14555.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
7月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
14555.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
14557.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
這個完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
14557.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
14559.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
到時候除了對照這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
14559.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
14561.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
舊版的這個同時起的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
14561.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
14563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
之後也會跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
14563.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
14565.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
政府就食物面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
14565.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
14567.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
的相關困難會交換意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
14567.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
14569.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
那針對校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
14569.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
14571.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
我在這裡有四點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
14571.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
14573.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
要跟教育部確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
14573.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
14575.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
第一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
14575.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
14577.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
我們是訂定辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
14577.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
14579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
本來就是行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
14579.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
14581.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
依法有據的權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
14581.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
14583.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
那今天立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
14583.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
14585.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
要求要退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
14585.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
14587.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
或者要求教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
14587.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
14589.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
修正校事會議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
14589.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
14591.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
這個相關辦法的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
14591.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
14593.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
14593.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
14595.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
我要請問部長就今天提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
14595.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
14597.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
這一案的委員或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
14597.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
14599.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
黨團他既然要介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
14599.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
14601.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
14601.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
14603.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
依法有據的權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
14603.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
14605.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
那他就應該要提出具體的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
14605.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
14607.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
跟要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
14607.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
14609.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
所以等一下請部長回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
14609.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
14611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
到底他提出具體的依據跟要求是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
14611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
14613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
14613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
14615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
既然7月15號我們就要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
14615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
14617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
校事會議的相關的分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
14617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
14619.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
14619.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
14621.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
那是否至少要等到7月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
14621.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
14623.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
這個具體的分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
14623.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
14625.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
這個報告之後我們再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
14625.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
14627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
在建立現有的基礎上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
14627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
14629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
讓校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
14629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
14631.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
的這個相關辦法可以定得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
14631.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
14633.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
那不然我們到底拿什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
14633.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
14635.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
當基礎做改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
14635.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
14637.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
那第三就目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
14637.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
14639.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
個縣市由教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
14639.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
14641.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
直接交辦給學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
14641.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
14643.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
的受理的這個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
14643.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
14645.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
檢舉案件的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
14645.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
14647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
平均現在是33% |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
14647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
14649.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
那其中有10個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
14649.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
14651.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
縣市是高於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
14651.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
14653.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
33%那有6個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
14653.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
14655.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
縣市是高於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
14655.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
14657.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
60%等於這6個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
14657.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
14659.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
有60%以上的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
14659.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
14661.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
監要檢舉案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
14661.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
14663.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
就直接交到學校去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
14663.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
14665.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
好 那那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
14665.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
14667.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
你認為是不是這樣的數據會偏高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
14667.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
14669.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
也不是我們希望的這個樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
14669.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
14671.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
好 那第四 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
14671.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
14673.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
教育部授權各縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
14673.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
14675.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
依據實際的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
14675.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
14677.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
那在校事會議前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
14677.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
14679.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
我們要開所謂的調處會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
14679.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
14681.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
好 那關於這個調處的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
14681.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
14683.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
教育部你該如何確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
14683.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
14685.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
各縣市未來一定會明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
14685.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
14687.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
來落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
14687.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
14689.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
很多問題請部長一一回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
14691.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
14693.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
確實這個校事會我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
14693.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
14695.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
14695.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
14699.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
我們確實是依據教師法第二十九條的一個授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
14699.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
14701.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
我們才訂定 那當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
14701.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
14703.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
在去年之前確實也造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
14703.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
14705.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
第一線上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
14705.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
14707.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
濫述紛紛擾擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
14707.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
14709.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
是是 所以我們馬上做了修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
14709.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
14711.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
很努力的跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
14711.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
14713.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
這個各地方縣市不同的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
14713.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
14715.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
做談 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
14715.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
14717.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
後來慢慢我對現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
14717.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
14719.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
一個掌握更清楚我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
14719.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
14721.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
做了這樣一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
14721.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
14723.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
所以也看到了確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
14723.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
14725.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
從去年相對時期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
14725.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
14727.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
跟今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
14727.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
14729.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
它的一個數量是大量的減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
14729.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
14731.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
我想這都是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
14731.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
14733.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
完好的方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
14733.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
14735.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
所以其實倒是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
14736.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
14738.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
委員剛才所提的如果對校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
14738.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
14740.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
要退回到底我們有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
14740.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
14742.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
委員有哪些具體的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
14742.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
14744.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
這個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
14744.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
14746.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
我想我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
14746.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
14748.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
這個悉心接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
14748.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
14750.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
委員是不是能夠直接跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
14750.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
14752.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
講的有一個比較清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
14752.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
14754.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
我們到底要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
14754.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
14756.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
就是要有具體的依據跟要求才可以幫你退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
14756.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
14758.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
或要求你修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
14758.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
14760.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
另外我們新的辦法裡面確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
14760.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
14762.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
也跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
14762.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
14764.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
我們看到過去有六個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
14764.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
14766.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
超過六十%都直接交下去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
14766.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
14768.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
這裡邊我們新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
14768.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
14770.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
辦法也做了一些規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
14770.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
14772.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
你要交下去必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
14772.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
14774.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
根據我們幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
14774.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
14776.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
譬如說它有沒有匿名 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
14776.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
14778.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
居民的你是不是有真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
14778.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
14780.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
查證它是真的當事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
14780.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
14782.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
這個人民跟它寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
14782.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
14784.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
是不是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
14784.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
14786.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
所有的東西我們都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
14786.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
14788.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
確認過以後你才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
14788.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
14790.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
轉請學校去辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
14790.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
14792.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
那這個部分我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
14792.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
14794.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
未來它都會降低我剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
14794.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
14796.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
特別也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
14796.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
14798.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
會跟其他委員報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
14798.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
14800.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
以我們來看新的辦法光 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
14800.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
14802.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
這一個台中市就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
14802.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
14804.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
降了一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
14804.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
14806.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
過去同一個年度裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
14806.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
14808.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
進入到校市會議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
14808.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
14810.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
一個件數今年到同一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
14810.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
14812.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
他已經減少了52% |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
14812.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
14814.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
就是說我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
14814.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
14816.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
他有一些縣市事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
14816.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
14818.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
他已經掌握到整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
14818.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
14820.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
新的辦法他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
14820.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
14822.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
精神所以對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
14822.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
14824.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
老師也干擾到明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
14824.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
14826.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
的減少那當然我們也期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
14826.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
14828.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
說有一些縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
14828.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
14830.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
如果還沒有反應過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
14830.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
14832.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
我們希望他應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
14832.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
14834.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
不應該要好好地去跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
14834.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
14836.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
14836.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
14838.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
我們現在所有的後端的data |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
14838.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
14840.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
證據我們事實上都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
14840.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
14842.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
包括這個所謂的建立這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
14842.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
14844.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
在校市會議前建立調處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
14844.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
14846.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
的機制這個各縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
14846.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
14848.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
要怎麼樣確保他遵從 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
14848.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
14850.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
14850.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
14852.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
確實是上個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
14852.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
14854.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
二禮拜三的會議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
14854.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
14856.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
局處所長會大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
14856.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
14858.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
是都認為說新的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
14858.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
14860.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
不要再改了已經夠好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
14860.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
14862.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
他們也認為能夠達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
14862.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
14864.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
保護學生的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
14864.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
14866.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
然後也能夠維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
14866.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
14868.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
老師的一個專業權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
14868.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
14870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
那怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
14871.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
14873.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
能夠確保到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
14873.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
14875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
縣市所以後來就是變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
14875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
14877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
高雄市說他們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
14877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
14879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
第三方的比紹勞資 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
14879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
14881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
糾紛的一個所謂勞資 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
14881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
14883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
的調處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
14883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
14885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
家長跟老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
14885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
14887.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
的一個調處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
14887.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
14889.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
台南市也有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
14889.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
14891.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
14891.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
14893.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
那叫做調和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
14894.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
14896.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
桃園市他是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
14896.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
14898.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
不要讓學校裡邊來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
14898.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
14900.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
來分案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
14900.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
14902.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
到底要不要進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
14902.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
14904.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
分案是教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
14904.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
14906.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
去分案這裡邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
14906.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
14908.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
是桃園市提出來但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
14908.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
14910.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
基本上大家討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
14910.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
14912.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
完以後還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
14912.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
14914.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
這三個縣市因為有你地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
14914.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
14916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
信那就尊重你們地方信 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
14916.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
14918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
所以他們有要弄這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
14918.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
14920.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
所謂的調處的機制就讓他們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
14920.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
14922.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
弄是就說讓他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
14922.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
14924.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
也去做做看但是至少大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
14924.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
14926.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
的共識是目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
14926.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
14928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
已經醫院委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
14928.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
14930.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
所支持的這個版本就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
14930.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
14932.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
暫時不要再動我們再繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
14932.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
14934.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
往下走大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
14934.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
14936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
好因為校市會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
14936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
14938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
的影響他是多面向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
14938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
14940.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
我們除了站在這個老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
14940.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
14942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
的角度來看我們其實也要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
14942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
14944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
換位思考學生的角度來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
14944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
14946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
看看這個相關的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
14946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
14948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
上個月中央社有一個報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
14948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
14950.08 |
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他指出說 |
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14950.08 |
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14952.08 |
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台北市有某高中的球隊學生 |
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14952.08 |
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他透過這個北市府 |
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14954.08 |
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的1999跟網路陳情 |
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可是這個球隊的 |
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14960.08 |
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總教練很快就拿到 |
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14960.08 |
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14962.08 |
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這個孩子的陳情資料 |
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14962.08 |
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14964.08 |
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甚至還拿這個來脅迫學生 |
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14964.08 |
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14966.08 |
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撤案那部長這個 |
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14966.08 |
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14968.08 |
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當然很明顯就是學生端的 |
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14968.08 |
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14970.08 |
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保障不足或者是有出現 |
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14970.08 |
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14972.08 |
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某些漏洞造成所謂的 |
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14972.08 |
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14974.08 |
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洩密事件所以 |
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14974.08 |
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14976.08 |
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就是要請教部長說 |
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14976.08 |
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14978.08 |
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如果每一個受害學生 |
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14978.08 |
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14980.08 |
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在投訴前他都還要 |
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14980.08 |
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14982.08 |
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擔心說會不會 |
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14982.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
14984.08 |
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個資被洩漏怎麼樣 |
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14984.08 |
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14986.08 |
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那這樣子 |
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14985.96 |
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14987.96 |
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這樣的問題就是說我們要怎麼樣 |
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14987.96 |
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14989.96 |
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防堵啦讓學生 |
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14989.96 |
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14991.96 |
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要去簡潔就是要去 |
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14991.96 |
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14993.96 |
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投訴之前其實是安心的 |
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14993.96 |
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14995.96 |
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這一點要請部長 |
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14995.96 |
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14997.96 |
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回答 跟委員報告 |
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14997.96 |
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14999.96 |
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我們在新的辦法裡針對 |
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14999.96 |
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15001.96 |
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我們就是要確保投訴者 |
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15001.96 |
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15003.96 |
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他如果記憶事實他是 |
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15003.96 |
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15005.96 |
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負責任具名的 |
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15005.96 |
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15007.96 |
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假設承辦單位有 |
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15007.96 |
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15009.96 |
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把他的名字把他的個資 |
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15009.96 |
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15011.96 |
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洩漏他是要負法律 |
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15011.96 |
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15013.96 |
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責任的也就是說 |
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15013.96 |
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15015.96 |
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我們事實上是以刑務法 |
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15015.96 |
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15017.96 |
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來究責的所以在新的 |
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15017.96 |
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15019.96 |
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辦法裡邊都有做這樣 |
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15019.96 |
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15021.96 |
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一個規範所以行政端接到 |
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15021.96 |
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15023.96 |
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這樣的學生的投訴他是 |
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15023.96 |
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15025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
絕對要負絕對保密責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
15025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
15027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
假設這個投訴是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
15027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
15029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
15029.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
15031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
實地都是具體的他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
15031.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
15033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
他應該要被保障的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
15033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
15035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
被保護的只要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
15035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
15037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
他的個資被洩漏 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
15037.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
15039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
他要負刑事責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
15039.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
15041.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
這邊我們在法令上也 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
15041.96 |
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15043.96 |
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都有明文規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
15043.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
15045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
好了解那教育部我們有說 |
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15045.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
15047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
7月15號就要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
15047.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
15049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
校市會議的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
15049.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
15051.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
分析報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
15051.96 |
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15053.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
本席要要求這個報告 |
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15053.96 |
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15055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
不該只是著重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
15055.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
15057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
減少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
15057.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
15059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
多少的投訴案件或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
15059.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
15061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
進入校市會議調查 |
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15061.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
15063.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
的案件數又降低了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
15063.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
15065.96 |
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我覺得我們其實是要了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
15065.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
15067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
學生端的實際需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
15067.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
15069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
那因為我們新制上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
15069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
15071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
那是不是有受到衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
15071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
15073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
我覺得這個是我們 |
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15073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
15075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
我們要了解的就是說 |
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15075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
15077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
雖然有改善可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
15077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
15079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
他有沒有受到新的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
15079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
15081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
我覺得我們要去各方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
15081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
15083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
了解對於校市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
15083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
15085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
會議的相關辦法的改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
15085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
15087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
才能做到真正的雙贏 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
15087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
15089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
部長你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
15089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
15091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
我講我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
15091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
15093.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
的態度是跟委員是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
15093.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
15095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
就是說還是回悟到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
15095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
15097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
不是任教師應該讓他離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
15097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
15099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
校醫現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
15099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
15101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
學生的受教權應該被保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
15101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
15103.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
但是老師的專業教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
15103.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
15105.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
跟專業的管教的一個權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
15105.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
15107.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
我們也應該要受權保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
15107.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
15109.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
老師也讓老師有專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
15109.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
15111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
一個自主權這個我想是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
15111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
15113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
非常肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
15113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
15115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
謝謝委員的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
15115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
15117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
因為今天是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
15117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
15119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
十三 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
15119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
15121.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
所以我們在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
15121.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
15123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
歸納一些意見我們大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
15123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
15125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
會把這一個明天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
15125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
15127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
十五號之前我們會盡快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
15127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
15129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
我們會盡快來公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
15129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
15131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
那其實想要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
15131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
15133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
部長討論一下這個其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
15133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
15135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
都有跟部長陸陸續續討論這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
15135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
15137.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
就是說之前我們教育部有宣佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
15137.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
15139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
這個兼任代課跟代理老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
15139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
15141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
的那個終點費要調漲 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
15141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
15143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
可是本土語的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
15143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
15145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
所謂的教學資源老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
15145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
15147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
的終點費卻沒有跟著調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
15147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
15149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
要我質詢過部長你之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
15149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
15151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
你就表達說這個應該要調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
15151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
15153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
所以有經過半年的時間 |
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15153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
15155.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
終於在上個月有拍板定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
15155.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
15157.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
那可是本席認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
15157.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
15159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
除了教學資源老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
15159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
15161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
他的終點費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
15161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
15163.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
需要調整以外我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
15163.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
15165.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
所有以終點費之心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
15165.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
15167.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
工作類列別 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
15167.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
15169.96 |
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我覺得教育部應該都有一致的動作 |
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才對像這次 |
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這個代課代理老師跟教學 |
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資源老師他分別調整 |
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的這個案例來講 |
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之前那個政部長你詢答 |
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的時候就有表達說其實調整 |
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終點費的精神就是要改善 |
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教師的待遇 |
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所以我們既然要調就要一起調 |
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不要調成A、B |
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再來還要走行政程序去調其他的 |
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所以部長距離您上次表達 |
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已經過了半年你覺得終點費 |
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15197.96 |
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要一併調整的機制你有建立了嗎 |
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其實我必須要 |
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跟委員坦白 |
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過去當通過 |
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這個終點費的時候 |
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從我過去的行政的一個經驗 |
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他是一體適用 |
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但是後來我發現我們在 |
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這個行政的一個 |
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體系裡面人事總處 |
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他確實有不同的規劃 |
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15223.3 |
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那這個部分我們會來 |
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15225.3 |
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建立共識希望以後像這個 |
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就由教育部能夠 |
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經過整個程序以後 |
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就一體適用我想這 |
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15233.3 |
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我們來簡化行政手續 |
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15233.3 |
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15235.3 |
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也能夠對各式各樣的 |
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老師有更大的支持 |
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而不要造成說這一邊的先過來 |
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那邊還要在那邊等 |
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我們還要再報這個行政院 |
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15245.3 |
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核定再一次我想這一個部分 |
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我們一定會來深切建立 |
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非常謝謝部長 |
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15251.3 |
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除了我們剛剛講的是政課時間 |
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的教師的終點費 |
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15255.3 |
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需要調整一次外 |
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15257.3 |
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還有就是所謂的非政課 |
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15259.3 |
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性質的終點費像什麼 |
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15261.3 |
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像第八節課 |
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15263.3 |
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或像寒暑假的輔導課 |
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15263.3 |
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15265.3 |
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或者重補修 |
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15267.3 |
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或者夜光天使的計畫 |
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15269.3 |
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還是課後的照顧班 |
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15271.3 |
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我的意思是說在現行的制度下 |
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15271.3 |
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15273.3 |
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當然這些是地方政府的權責 |
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15273.3 |
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15275.3 |
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也是需要地方政府來調整 |
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15275.3 |
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15277.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
可是現在就是說我們中央如果 |
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15277.3 |
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15279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
沒有一致的所謂的標準 |
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15279.3 |
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15281.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
那地方政府他就會 |
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15281.3 |
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15283.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
互相推諉他說中央政府又 |
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15283.3 |
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15285.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
沒講你會說你地方 |
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15285.3 |
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15287.3 |
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政府你必須要調整所以是不是 |
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15287.3 |
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15289.3 |
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能不能訂立一個 |
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15289.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
15291.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
比較一致的相關 |
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15291.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
15293.3 |
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的規範讓地方政府 |
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15293.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
15295.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
可以遵循也無所閃避 |
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15295.3 |
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15297.3 |
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然後你這邊 |
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15297.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
15299.3 |
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就是我們也可以就是 |
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15299.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
15301.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
所謂的非政課跟政課都一併 |
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15301.3 |
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15303.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
來調整只要終點費有調漲 |
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15303.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
15305.3 |
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的前例之下 |
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15305.3 |
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15307.3 |
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跟委員報告確實因為地方 |
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15307.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
15309.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
因地制宜他會發展許多不同 |
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15309.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
15311.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
的班別包括終點費 |
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15311.3 |
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15313.3 |
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有一些可能家長另外 |
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15313.3 |
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15315.3 |
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收的錢有一些我相信 |
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15315.3 |
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15317.3 |
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其實就地方來講 |
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15317.3 |
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15319.3 |
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他如果要比照 |
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15319.3 |
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15321.3 |
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辦理依照這樣他事實上法 |
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15321.3 |
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15323.3 |
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法延上是非常清楚我們在行政 |
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15323.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
15325.3 |
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的裁量跟行政的運作 |
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15325.3 |
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15327.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
這完全是沒有任何 |
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15327.3 |
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15329.3 |
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的一個阻礙的 |
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15329.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
15331.3 |
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那當然 |
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15330.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
15332.58 |
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就是說 |
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15331.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
15333.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
至少從教育部的立場 |
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15333.95 |
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15335.95 |
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就用到公家經費的 |
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15337.95 |
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能夠比照辦理那時候 |
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15337.95 |
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15339.95 |
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完全沒有 |
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15339.95 |
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15341.95 |
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自癌的那如果另外 |
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15341.95 |
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15343.95 |
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額外收錢要家長付費 |
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15343.95 |
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15345.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
另外學校裡面去 |
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15345.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
15347.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
訂定經過討論訂定一個費用 |
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15347.95 |
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15349.95 |
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或者甚至地方政府也 |
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15349.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
15351.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
都會訂定這樣一個所謂 |
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15351.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
15353.95 |
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的費用的一個支援辦 |
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15353.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
15355.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
我想我們是可以尊重 |
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15355.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
15357.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
好那另外就是說 |
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15357.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
15359.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
當然我的前提還是希望說 |
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15359.95 |
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15361.95 |
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這個調整是一致的啦 |
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15361.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
15363.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
因為這些課不管是 |
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15363.95 |
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15365.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
公家給的經費 |
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15365.95 |
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15367.95 |
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還是說這個家長 |
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15367.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
15369.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
自己付費的所謂的 |
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15369.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
15371.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
政課跟非政課都還是老師 |
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15371.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
15373.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
來受課老師來教 |
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15373.95 |
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15375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
所以如果說可以保障 |
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15375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
15377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
老師的權益當然是可以調整 |
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15377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
15379.95 |
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一致的是比較好那現在 |
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15379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
15381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
有教師團體認為說 |
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15381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
15383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
乾脆把這個教師終點費 |
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15383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
15385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
納入教師待遇條例 |
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15385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
15387.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
予以保障 |
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15387.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
15389.95 |
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那你對這個的看法如何 |
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那因為我們這次的主題 |
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有討論到這個教育經費的編列 |
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那所以本席認為說我們在 |
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討論中央地分的財源 |
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教育財源的分配的時候 |
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也釋權這個重新劃分 |
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的同時我們是不是也要 |
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一併跟地方政府來充分討論 |
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這件事情 |
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持平論終點會算是 |
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比較末梢的 |
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如果你在一個大法裡面去把 |
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終點會加進去明定成 |
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我看這個 |
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可能以後隨著經濟的發展 |
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15421.95 |
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社會的進步每天三不五時 |
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就要改為了終點會 |
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來改這個 |
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文化我看它確實有 |
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斟酌的一個 |
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15431.95 |
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空間 |
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15433.95 |
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教師團體當然教師團體 |
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15435.95 |
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有沒有說要把終點費的費用納 |
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進去這是這個可能還要 |
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再研究可是我的意思說它或許 |
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他們是認為說 |
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這個終點費是要一致性 |
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的終點費把它納入 |
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像是我剛剛提到了一些政客的部分 |
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可是跟委員報告因為我們 |
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地方制度法裡面是過往 |
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國民教育是屬於地方教育的 |
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前線所以 |
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有一些要因地制宜 |
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的如果變成由 |
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中央來直接 |
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15464.86 |
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入法 |
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它可能就有 |
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很難去兼顧到地方的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
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一個所謂因地制宜 |
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這當然我的意思說不是 |
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不行但是可能還是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
15476.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
中央請客地方買單 |
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的困境就對了到最後它切法 |
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變通或者彈性因地制宜 |
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這可能還要再增長 |
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好那最後本席在 |
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15486.86 |
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請教部長是說這個本土 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
15488.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
語的教學的向下 |
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15488.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
15490.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
紮根的問題喔之前那個 |
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15490.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
15492.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
黃恩勳來台灣的時候他用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
15492.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
15494.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
台語跟一個小朋友交談 |
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15494.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
15496.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
他叮嚀小朋友說你愛耳待 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
15496.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
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耳那這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
15500.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
其實掀起了學習本土語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
15502.86 |
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的討論啦那我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
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15504.86 |
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看囉我們除了國小到 |
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15504.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
15506.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
高中的本土語教學我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
15506.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
15508.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
下鄉張哥就是往幼兒園去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
15508.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
15510.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
好那我們現在看到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
15510.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
15512.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
根據教育部的資料其實我們有補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
15512.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
15514.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
這個教保的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
15514.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
15516.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
的課程本土語的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
15516.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
15518.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
我們有補助分別都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
15518.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
15520.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
從2023到2025 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
15520.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
15522.86 |
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都是300多間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
15524.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
那包括補助這個 |
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15524.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
15526.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
台灣的這個台語沉浸式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
15526.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
15528.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
教學計畫也都有300多間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
15528.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
15530.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
所以落在三四百 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
15530.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
15532.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
個元那可是全 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
15532.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
15534.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
台灣的教保機關是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
15534.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
15536.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
有6000多間所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
15536.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
15538.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
比例是不是也是太低了一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
15538.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
15540.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
那我知道國教署其實很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
15540.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
15542.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
在紮根這個本土教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
15542.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
15544.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
那好那力道 |
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15544.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
15546.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
我覺得應該還可以更大所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
15546.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
15548.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
那如果我們想要請教部長說我們要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
15548.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
15550.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
辦理這個本土 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
15550.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
15552.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
本土語的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
15552.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
15554.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
讓他元素可以持續增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
15554.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
15556.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
有沒有鼓勵的一些方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
15556.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
15558.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
那有沒有掌握像客家語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
15560.86 |
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或者原住民語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
15560.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
15562.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
或者這個他們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
15562.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
15564.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
沉浸式潛力性教肖學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
15564.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
15566.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
的計畫的開課狀況 |
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15566.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
15568.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
那這部分是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
15568.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
15570.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
部長還可以再 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
15570.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
15572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
加強一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
15572.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
15574.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
謝謝委員關心我們本土 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
15574.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
15576.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
本土語事實上就是國家語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
15576.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
15578.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
那我們在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
15578.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
15580.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
去年的全國教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
15580.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
15582.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
首長會議所有22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
15582.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
15584.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
的教育局處首長他們都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
15584.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
15586.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
簽了一個共同的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
15586.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
15588.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
我們幼兒園不管哪一班 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
15588.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
15590.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
開始會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
15590.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
15592.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
隨著他的區域地區性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
15592.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
15594.45 |
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比如說這個地區比較多都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
15594.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
15596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
講台語的那幼兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
15596.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
15598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
開始就要教台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
15598.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
15600.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
然後客家族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
15600.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
15602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
客家地區的就教客語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
15602.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
15604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
原住民部落的就教原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
15604.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
15606.45 |
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這是22個地方縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
15606.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
15608.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
教育局處首長都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
15608.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
15610.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
簽訂他們願意承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
15610.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
15612.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
來推動這個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
15612.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
15614.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
本土語言我想這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
15614.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
15616.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
那第二個教育部的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
15616.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
15618.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
我們有一些政策就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
15618.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
15620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
如果地方縣市他願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
15620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
15622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
開始有一些所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
15622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
15624.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
就是華語跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
15624.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
15626.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
本土語言的一個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
15626.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
15628.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
我們教育部也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
15628.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
15630.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
給以重點的進一步補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
15630.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
15632.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
那這個另外我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
15632.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
15634.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
私私培育裡面全國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
15636.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
15638.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
中小學老師有在培養中小時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
15638.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
15640.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
學的私私培育機構裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
15640.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
15642.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
我們也把本土語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
15642.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
15644.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
納為我們重點補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
15644.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
15646.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
就是說你這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
15646.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
15648.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
大學生或者研究生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
15648.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
15650.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
以後當老師本土語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
15650.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
15652.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
裡面不管你是用台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
15652.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
15654.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
或者客家語或者原住民語 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
15654.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
15656.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
或者民東語你有接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
15656.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
15658.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
比如說中等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
15658.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
15660.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
中級的中階的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
15660.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
15662.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
中級的這個認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
15662.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
15664.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
那我們隨著 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
15664.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
15666.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
這個人數比例我們會給你不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
15666.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
15668.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
經費的一些補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
15668.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
15670.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
我想我們是全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
15670.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
15672.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
那另外還有一些鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
15673.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
15675.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
這個地方縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
15675.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
15677.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
假設有一些退場的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
15677.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
15679.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
怎麼樣也能夠變成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
15679.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
15681.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
教學園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
15681.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
15683.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
類似Disney的主題教學館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
15683.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
15685.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
去發展地方的特色 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
15685.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
15687.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
我想這個我們都會給以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
15687.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
15689.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
地方的這些經費上的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
15689.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
15691.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
好謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
15691.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
15693.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
部長辛苦好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
15695.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
15697.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
15696.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
15698.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
請坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
15705.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
15707.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
下一位吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
15713.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
15715.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
好謝謝主席趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
15715.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
15717.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
15717.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
15719.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
現在也一點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
15720.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
15722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
部長很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
15722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
15724.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
我就請國教署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
15724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
15726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
有請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
15728.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
15730.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
署長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
15730.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
15732.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
最近的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
15732.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
15734.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
油品事件我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
15734.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
15736.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
有人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
15736.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
15738.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
是毒油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
15738.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
15740.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
但是也有人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
15740.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
15742.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
應該要講致癌油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
15742.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
15744.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
總之就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
15744.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
15746.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
問題油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
15746.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
15748.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
那不論這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
15748.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
15750.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
就是因為廠商的自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
15750.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
15752.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
發生一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
15752.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
15754.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
15754.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
15756.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
那又加上地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
15756.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
15758.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
出現這個督察不力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
15758.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
15760.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
15760.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
15762.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
就衍生了這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
15762.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
15764.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
這樣的一個風暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
15764.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
15766.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
但是我們今天在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
15766.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
15768.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
其實是帶著很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
15768.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
15770.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
家長的疑問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
15770.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
15772.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
大家最關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
15772.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
15774.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
還是想要了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
15774.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
15776.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
到底這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
15776.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
15778.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
由致癌油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
15778.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
15780.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
有沒有流向校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
15780.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
15782.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
那我們知道的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
15782.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
15784.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
像 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
15784.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
15786.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
第一波在公佈這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
15786.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
15788.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
問題油的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
15788.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
15790.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
說有257家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
15790.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
15792.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
15792.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
15794.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
教育部這邊呢也要求各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
15794.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
15796.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
做了第一波的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
15796.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
15798.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
校園清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
15798.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
15800.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
也確認了受影響的縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
15800.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
15802.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
跟學校數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
15802.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
15804.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
那請教一下署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
15804 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
15806 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
我們是用什麼樣的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
15806 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
15808 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
去做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
15809.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
15811.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
我們是用我們所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
15811.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
15813.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
石燈平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
15813.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
15815.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
就是校園食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
15815.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
15817.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
15817.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
15819.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
家長平日也都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
15819.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
15821.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
在這個平台上看到小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
15821.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
15823.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
吃的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
15823.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
15825.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
好 那麼我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
15825.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
15827.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
其實今天的報告也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
15827.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
15829.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
寫到7月7號 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
15829.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
15831.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
截止你們也有公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
15831.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
15833.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
了一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
15833.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
15835.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
就是有受到影響的縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
15835.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
15837.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
是哪些縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
15838.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
15840.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
7月7號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
15840.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
15842.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
那一天部長在局長會議的第一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
15842.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
15844.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
有講那時候是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
15844.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
15846.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
四個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
15846.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
15848.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
那雙北 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
15847.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
15849.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
基隆 台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
15849.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
15851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
那時候是165個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
15851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
15853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
那我知道的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
15853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
15855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
15855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
15857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
那個時候講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
15857.57 |
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15859.57 |
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第一層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
15859.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
15861.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
四家廠商的那個有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
15861.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
15863.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
到後來繼續有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
15863.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
15865.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
232個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
15865.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
15867.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
以及後來提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].start |
15867.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].end |
15869.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
401個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].start |
15869.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].end |
15871.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
後來又再提到440個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].start |
15871.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
15873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].text |
這個我們每次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
15873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
15875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].text |
主播都有第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].start |
15875.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].end |
15877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
第二層的產品也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].start |
15877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].end |
15879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].text |
在詳查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].start |
15879.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
15881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
那我現在就是想要請教主長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].start |
15881.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
15883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
因為我們是從校園食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].start |
15883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].end |
15885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
登錄平台去撈資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].start |
15885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].end |
15887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
所以我們也想要去做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].start |
15887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].end |
15889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].text |
確認就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].start |
15889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].end |
15891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6340].text |
每一個學校這個登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].start |
15891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].end |
15893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].text |
平台上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].start |
15893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].end |
15895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6342].text |
他是否如實的登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].start |
15895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].end |
15897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].text |
有沒有去了解過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].start |
15897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].end |
15899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].start |
15899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].end |
15901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].text |
在我們的餐廳 廚房 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].start |
15901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].end |
15903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6346].text |
管理的辦法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].start |
15903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].end |
15905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].text |
要登載的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
15905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].end |
15907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].text |
登載的項目如果有人這邊所看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].start |
15907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].end |
15909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].text |
那有沒有可能像 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].start |
15909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].end |
15911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].text |
現在PPT上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].start |
15911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].end |
15913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].text |
所顯示的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].start |
15913.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].end |
15915.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].text |
會不會有像那種沒有登錄的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
15917.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].end |
15919.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].text |
那我們現在如果使用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].start |
15919.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
15921.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].text |
他沒有登載我們擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].start |
15921.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
15923.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].text |
像這一次是沙拉油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].start |
15923.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].end |
15925.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].text |
我們直接用沙拉油也跟他提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].start |
15925.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].end |
15927.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6357].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].start |
15927.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].end |
15929.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6358].text |
所以其實你們有沒有發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].start |
15929.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].end |
15931.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].text |
有一些學校是沒有登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].start |
15931.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].end |
15933.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].text |
有一些學校他在登載時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].start |
15933.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].end |
15935.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
因為這一個是屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].start |
15935.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].end |
15937.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
一學期要登載一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].start |
15937.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].end |
15939.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
所以早上有委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].start |
15939.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
15941.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].text |
三個月是不是在油品的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
15941.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
15943.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
要做一點另外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].start |
15943.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].end |
15945.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].text |
一些處理這個我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
15945.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].end |
15947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].text |
會做一點這樣一方面的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
15947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].end |
15949.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
署長我就是提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].start |
15949.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
15951.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
其實家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].start |
15951.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].end |
15953.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
他最在意的或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
15953.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].end |
15955.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].text |
我們一般的民眾最在意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
15955.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
15957.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
他想要了解他到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
15957.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
15959.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
有沒有吃到滿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
15959.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
15961.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].text |
那校園的食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].start |
15961.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
15963.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
更是嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
15963.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].end |
15965.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
所以家長非常在乎這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
15965.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
15967.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].text |
所以我們也必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
15967.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
15969.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
在做把關的這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].start |
15969.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].end |
15971.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].text |
也要做自我要求要非常的嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].start |
15971.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].end |
15973.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].text |
所以呢我們希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].start |
15973.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].end |
15975.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].text |
這個既然我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].start |
15975.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
15977.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].text |
有要求所有的品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
15977.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
15979.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
都要登錄到平台裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].start |
15979.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].end |
15981.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].text |
一旦我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].start |
15981.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].end |
15983.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].text |
有一些學校如果沒有確實做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].start |
15983.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].end |
15985.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].text |
我們還是要有因應的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].start |
15985.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].end |
15987.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].start |
15987.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].end |
15989.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].text |
剛才你有提了我們會怎麼要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].start |
15989.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].end |
15991.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].text |
第一點我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].start |
15991.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].end |
15993.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].text |
當天一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].start |
15993.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].end |
15995.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].text |
登沒登的因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].start |
15995.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
15997.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
有一個自動的系統在他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].start |
15997.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].end |
15999.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].text |
這個我們的數位界他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].start |
15999.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].end |
16001.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].text |
稱為爬蟲會去找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].start |
16001.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].end |
16003.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].text |
沒有執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].start |
16003.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].end |
16005.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].text |
會列入考核 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].start |
16005.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].end |
16007.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].text |
好那我這邊就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].start |
16007.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].end |
16009.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].text |
希望教育部要全面盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].start |
16009.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].end |
16011.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].text |
各級學校還有幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].start |
16011.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].end |
16013.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].text |
他使用這個校園食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].start |
16013.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
16015.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].text |
登錄平台的一個實際情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].start |
16015.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
16017.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].text |
那一定要確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].start |
16017.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].end |
16019.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].text |
食用油調味料還有加工 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].start |
16019.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
16021.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
食品有沒有完整登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].start |
16021.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
16023.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
他的品牌製造商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].start |
16023.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].end |
16025.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].text |
供應商批號 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].start |
16025.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
16027.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
或者其他可以追溯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].start |
16027.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
16029.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].text |
資訊那提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
16029.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].end |
16031.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].text |
盤點的結果跟改善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
16031.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
16033.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
期限那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
16033.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].end |
16035.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
我也希望對於這些登錄不完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].start |
16035.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
16037.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
或者長期沒有落實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].start |
16037.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
16039.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
學校教育部應該要會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].start |
16039.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].end |
16041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
地方政府建立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].start |
16041.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
16043.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
督導集合跟定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].start |
16043.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
16045.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
追蹤的機制那積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].start |
16045.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
16047.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
的要求學校跟團善業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].start |
16047.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
16049.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
要做確實的登錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
16049.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
16051.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
不可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].start |
16051.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
16053.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].text |
只有用宣導或自行填報的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].start |
16053.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
16055.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
那我也希望這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].start |
16055.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
16057.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
兩週內可以給我一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].start |
16057.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
16059.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
報告好不好好的好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].start |
16059.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
16061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
那接下來是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].start |
16061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
16063.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
我想請那個衛福部的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].start |
16068.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
16070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].start |
16074.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].end |
16076.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
委員好次長好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].start |
16076.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].end |
16078.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
因為談到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].start |
16078.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
16080.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
問題有品的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].start |
16080.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
16082.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
很多人在乎的還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].start |
16082.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
16084.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
包括怎麼退費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].start |
16084.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].end |
16086.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
怎麼賠償 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].start |
16086.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
16088.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
那我也知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].start |
16088.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
16090.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
這個部分其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].start |
16090.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
16092.92 |
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也變成是一門學問 |
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16092.92 |
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16094.92 |
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因為我看到很多 |
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16094.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
16096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
民眾他們還有自製 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].start |
16096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
16098.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].text |
各類的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].start |
16098.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].end |
16100.92 |
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真的那個技術很厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].start |
16100.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].end |
16102.92 |
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但是我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].start |
16102.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].end |
16104.92 |
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也有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].start |
16104.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].end |
16106.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].text |
落入詐騙或者騙取 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].start |
16106.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].end |
16108.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].text |
個資這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].start |
16108.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].end |
16110.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].text |
那甚至呢我們也看到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].start |
16110.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].end |
16112.92 |
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像是7-11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].start |
16112.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].end |
16114.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].text |
他有委託 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].start |
16114.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].end |
16116.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].text |
聯華食品去製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].start |
16116.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].end |
16118.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].text |
這個鮮食 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].start |
16118.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].end |
16120.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].text |
那他這個受 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].start |
16120.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].end |
16122.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].text |
這個治癌有的波及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].start |
16122.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].end |
16124.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].text |
80多項那他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].start |
16124.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].end |
16126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].text |
很好因為有電子錢包 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].start |
16126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].end |
16128.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].text |
他可以採用會員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].start |
16128.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].end |
16130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].text |
主動退費所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].start |
16130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].end |
16132.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].text |
我看到7月8號9號 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].start |
16134.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].end |
16136.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].text |
行政院有召開一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].start |
16136.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].end |
16138.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].text |
各部會工作的協調會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].start |
16138.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].end |
16140.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].text |
那其中有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].start |
16140.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].end |
16142.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].text |
要協調衛福部經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].start |
16142.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].end |
16144.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].text |
還有行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].start |
16144.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].end |
16146.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].text |
消保處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].start |
16146.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].end |
16148.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].text |
對於國人持下架油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].start |
16148.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].end |
16150.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].text |
到通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].start |
16150.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].end |
16152.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].text |
退換貨的這個事宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].start |
16152.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].end |
16154.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].text |
所以在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].start |
16154.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].end |
16156.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].text |
我不曉得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].start |
16157.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].end |
16159.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].text |
目前的規劃是怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].start |
16159.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].end |
16161.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].text |
像至少我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].start |
16161.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].end |
16163.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].text |
連民眾都可以去結合財政部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].start |
16163.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].end |
16165.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].text |
電子發票整合服務平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].start |
16165.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].end |
16167.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].text |
去設計這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].start |
16167.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].end |
16169.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].text |
系統那我就不曉得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].start |
16169.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].end |
16171.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].text |
衛福部這個地方打算怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].start |
16171.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].end |
16173.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].text |
好謝謝委員現在我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].start |
16173.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].end |
16175.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].text |
之前的會議裡面陳時中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].start |
16175.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].end |
16177.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].text |
政委也才是就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].start |
16177.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].end |
16179.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].text |
我們盡量要減變從寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].start |
16179.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].end |
16181.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].text |
處理這是第一個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].start |
16181.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].end |
16183.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].text |
那第二個部分就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].start |
16183.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].end |
16185.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].text |
現在我們有兩個部分有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].start |
16185.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].end |
16187.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].text |
油品是查出他有超標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].start |
16187.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].end |
16189.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].text |
那一批就是下架回收 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].start |
16189.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].end |
16191.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].text |
但是因為我們發現四月到六月 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].start |
16191.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].end |
16193.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].text |
中聯的油品我們持續這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].start |
16193.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].end |
16195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].text |
已經到第三波了所以我們後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].start |
16195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].end |
16197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].text |
是決議從四月到六月中聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].start |
16197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].end |
16199.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].text |
這29批是全部預防性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
16199.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
16201.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
下架好那預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
16201.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
16203.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
的話呢那有一些還在做後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
16203.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
16205.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].text |
的檢驗所以是預防性下架的目的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].start |
16205.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
16207.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
避免如果說後續還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].start |
16207.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
16209.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
檢驗出來的問題那後續的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
16209.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
16211.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
有問題後續會有一些處理上更 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].start |
16211.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
16213.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
複雜也讓民眾能夠在現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
16213.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
16215.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
市面上可以比較安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
16215.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
16217.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
那至於說接下來這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].start |
16217.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
16219.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
現在的狀況就是民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
16219.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
16221.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
有疑慮我們就跟這些目前遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].start |
16221.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
16223.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
因為在中聯下面有泰山 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].start |
16223.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
16225.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
福茂跟福壽三家廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].start |
16225.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
16227.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
這三家廠商我們有跟他們說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].start |
16227.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
16229.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
就是他們現在都接受他們所有下游 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].start |
16229.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
16231.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
的這個退貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].start |
16231.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
16233.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
退貨之後後續這邊的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].start |
16233.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
16235.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
剛剛講到的賠償或者是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].start |
16235.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
16237.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
費用的部分那我們會再做一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].start |
16237.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
16239.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
細節的研議我們也目前是先要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].start |
16239.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
16241.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
廠商這邊目前是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].start |
16241.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
16243.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
要求廠商這邊他們要有跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].start |
16243.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
16245.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
同步的公開資訊那再來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].start |
16245.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
16247.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
在食安基金這邊後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].start |
16247.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
16249.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
也會有一些處理那請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].start |
16249.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
16251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
大家在意的關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].start |
16251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
16253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
要不要舉證那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].start |
16253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
16255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
查詢還有申請責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].start |
16255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
16257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
那會由消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].start |
16257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].end |
16259.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
這邊來提出嗎我們現在是盡量重寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].start |
16259.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
16261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
好所以是盡量重寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].start |
16261.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
16263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
對好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].start |
16263.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
16265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].text |
好謝謝次長謝謝謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].start |
16265.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
16267.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].text |
那接下來我還是要了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].start |
16267.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].end |
16269.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].text |
食安法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].start |
16269.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].end |
16271.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
修法方向因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].start |
16271.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
16273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
我們都知道這一次有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].start |
16273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
16275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
大家都注意到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
16275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].end |
16277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].text |
這個業者他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
16277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].end |
16279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].start |
16279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
16281.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
跟這個第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].start |
16281.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
16283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
檢驗他到底有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
16283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
16285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
通報的義務還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].start |
16285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
16287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
這一次的源頭關乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
16287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
16289.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
邊境的管理等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
16289.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
16291.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
其實大家也很關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
16291.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
16293.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
所以在這邊我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
16293.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].end |
16295.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
想要了解說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
16295.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
16297.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
因為我們現在檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
16297.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
16299.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
起來這個第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
16299.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
16301.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
檢驗呢目前看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
16301.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
16303.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
他不需要回報主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
16303.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
16305.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
機關他只需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
16305.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
16307.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
回報業者那麼我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
16307.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
16309.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
也看到關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
16309.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
16311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
這些吹哨者可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
16311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
16313.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
因為說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
16313.38 |
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違反營業秘密法違反員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
16315.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
16317.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
保密協定損害商譽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
16317.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
16319.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
或者是在食安法第五十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
16319.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
16321.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
第二項所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
16321.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
16323.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
的這一些他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
16323.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
16325.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
就會變成不敢吹哨那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
16325.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
16327.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
次長請教您這四個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
16327.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
漏洞嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
16329.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
16331.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
先跟我們補充這一次中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
16331.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
16333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
這次其實我們有收到包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
16333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
16335.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
過程中有南橋等等他們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
16335.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
16337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
做這樣子的他們有發現有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
16337.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
16339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
但是他們沒有來向主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
16339.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
16341.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
包含地方的衛生局或向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
16341.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
16343.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
我們報告他們只有在自己業內 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
16343.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
16345.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
所以這個我們不認為他是吹哨他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
16345.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
16347.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
反而是延遲這個部分我們先澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
16347.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
16349.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
那再來在食安法這邊當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
16349.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
16351.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
我們希望能夠來研議就是說要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
16351.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
16353.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
有強制的上傳報告以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
16353.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
16355.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
在他這邊在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
16355.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
16357.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
實驗室這邊我們也要研修 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
16357.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
16359.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
就是我們的第七條第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
16359.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
16361.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
的規定的執法規希望說能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
16361.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
16363.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
透過強制跟即時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
16363.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
16365.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
的上傳報告讓主管機關可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
16365.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
16367.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
第一時間就掌控跟了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
16367.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
16369.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
所以這個部分你們會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
16369.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
16371.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
食安法的部分去做修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
16371.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
16373.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
規劃從食安法修正食安法相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
16373.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
16375.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
的執法那大家提到的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
16375.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
16377.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
業者的自主檢驗的頻率 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
16377.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
16379.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
對所以業者檢驗的頻率我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
16379.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
16381.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
也跟我們報告我們現在看起來當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
16381.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
16383.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
過去這四年食藥署我們都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
16383.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
16385.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
有提供請地方我們有相關的專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
16385.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
16387.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
在驗但是自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
16387.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
16389.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
的頻率我們也認為太 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
16389.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
16391.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
時間拉太長而且自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
16391.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
16393.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
的頻率沒有因為這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
16393.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
16395.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
就是治沙拉有的這些廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
16395.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
16397.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
他的廠的批次或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
16397.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
16399.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
他的那個規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
16399.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
16401.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
並沒有一個區別那這個部分我們會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
16401.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
16403.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
後續會做一些調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
16403.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
16405.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
所以未來會做大小廠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
16407 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
16409 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
對因為其實有些廠可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
16409 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
16411 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
半年可能只出一兩次貨那像這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
16411 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
16413 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
他的大廠他可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
16413 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
16415 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
這個這段時間4月到6月他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
16415 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
16417 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
就出了29批貨所以因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
16417 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
16419 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
不同的廠我們會要求他有一些憑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
16419 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
16421 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
去商要做一些可能檢驗的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
16421 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
16423 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
也會令一些小廠吃不消 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
16423 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
16425 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
吧之前就是自主 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
16425 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
16427 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
的時候我們認為說他們在自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].start |
16427 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].end |
16429 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
希望他們自主檢驗那固定我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].start |
16429 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
16431 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
一些專案去調查可是這樣發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].start |
16431 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].end |
16433 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
這一次我們就明確的發現在這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
16433 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
16435 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
大量影響市場巨大的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
16435 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
16437 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
廠單純讓他們自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
16437 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
16439 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
而且評次不夠這樣子的話是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
16439 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
16441 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
會有一些漏洞的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
16441 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
16443 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
我想很多人都有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].start |
16443 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
16445 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
其實像現在受虐兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
16445 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
16447 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
其實醫院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
16447 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
16449 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
他就有主動通報的這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
16449 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
16451 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
義務我想修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
16451 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
16453 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
的方向應該也會往這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
16453 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
16455 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
方向吧我們會希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
16455 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
16457 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
讓廠商這邊第一我們有要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
16457 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
16459 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
他們要定期的上這個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
16459 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
16461 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
上來不能而且評次的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
16461 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
16463 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
自主檢驗我想這個評次不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
16463 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
16465 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
那另外一個部分就是說我們要能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
16465 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
16467 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
希望能夠在接下來在食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
16467 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
16469 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
的調整裡面能夠讓他們必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
16469 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
16471 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
有這個義務那但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
16471 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
16473 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
同時要能夠避免他為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
16473 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
16475 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
不敢為了檢驗到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
16475 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
16477 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
之後我會有問題我必須報上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
16477 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
16479 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
然後怕他們不敢驗所以這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
16479 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
16481 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
部分要同時來處理那邊境管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
16481 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
16483 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
的部分因為大家都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
16483 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
16485 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
那個乙型受體素 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
16485 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
16487 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
那個豬肉儀表板蠻不錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
16487 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
16489 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
謝謝我人肯定我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
16489 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
16491 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
那個豬肉儀表板因為每次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
16491 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
16493 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
講的時候我們都說上面有個很多人不看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
16493 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
16495 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
不過先跟委員說明喔其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
16495 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
16497 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
我們在這一次所說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
16497 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
16499 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
他其實是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
16499 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
16501 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
主要還是這一些煉油廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
16501 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
16503 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
他的HACCP他內部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
16503 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
16505 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
應該在整個自由過程他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
16505 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
16507 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
必須要有每一個我們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
16507 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
16509 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
每一個節點的把關那讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
16509 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
16511 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
他在這個過程裡面可以確保他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
16511 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
16513 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
產品的穩定跟確保產品能夠符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
16513 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
16515 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
規則好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
16515 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
16517 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
因為我想這個部分目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
16517 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
16519 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
消費者都非常的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
16519 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
16521 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
那也在關注我們未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
16521 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
16523 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
食安法的修法方向希望未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
16523 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
16525 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
不再有這樣的狀況出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
16525 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
16527 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
好謝謝衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
16527 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
16529 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
接下來我還是要請一下國教署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
16532.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
16534.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
有請署長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
16537.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
16539.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
好委員好 署長 |
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16539.18 |
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16541.18 |
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是這樣子的因為 |
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16541.18 |
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16543.18 |
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我們還是要來繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
16543.18 |
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16544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
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校事會議 |
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16545.18 |
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但是我覺得 |
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大家最近 |
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16549.18 |
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16551.18 |
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都在幫校事會議 |
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16551.18 |
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16553.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
去找原因 |
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16553.18 |
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16555.18 |
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找源頭因為校事會議 |
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16555.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
16557.18 |
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是109年 |
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16557.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
16559.18 |
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出現了對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
16559.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
16561.18 |
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是109年的 |
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16561.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
16563.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
但是這個問題加劇是在 |
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16563.18 |
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16565.18 |
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什麼時候 |
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16564.82 |
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16566.82 |
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加劇如果在 |
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16566.82 |
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16568.82 |
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第2個版本是在 |
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16568.82 |
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16570.82 |
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113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
16570.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
16572.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
那113年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
16572.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
16574.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
處理了兩件事 |
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16574.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
16576.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
在修法說明那邊有寫 |
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16576.82 |
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16578.82 |
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第一件事就是調查 |
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16578.82 |
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16580.82 |
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的時候全外聘 |
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16580.82 |
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16582.82 |
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第二件事是當時 |
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16582.82 |
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16584.82 |
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因為不當管教跟 |
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16584.82 |
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16586.82 |
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霸凌準則這邊的失對生 |
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16586.82 |
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16588.82 |
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的霸凌那麼現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
16588.82 |
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16590.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].text |
希望能夠合一不要變成 |
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16590.82 |
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16592.82 |
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兩個調查小組好所以113 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].start |
16592.82 |
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16594.82 |
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版本有把它合併好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
16594.82 |
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16596.82 |
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所以呢就是調查的成員 |
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16596.82 |
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16598.82 |
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的問題嘛一個調查 |
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16598.82 |
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16600.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
的成員對另外一個就是 |
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16600.82 |
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16602.82 |
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事項上的合併是 |
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16602.82 |
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16604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
變成原來在霸凌準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].start |
16604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].end |
16606.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
那邊統計的全部 |
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16606.82 |
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16608.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
跑到解併辦法是好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
16608.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
16610.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
那我們來看一下因為其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].start |
16610.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
16612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
16612.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].end |
16614.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
有排這樣的一個議題就是關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
16614.29 |
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16616.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].text |
學生出缺情的 |
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16616.29 |
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16618.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].text |
管理那其實 |
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16618.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
16620.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
這個也暴露出一個 |
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16620.29 |
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16622.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
問題就是管教的問題 |
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16623.05 |
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16625.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
因為我們都知道 |
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16625.05 |
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16627.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
這個事件簡單來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
16627.05 |
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16629.05 |
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就是學生常常遲到 |
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16629.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
16631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
那老師呢想了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
16631.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
16633.05 |
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一個辦法就叫他抄寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].start |
16633.05 |
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16635.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
課文但是對家長來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
16635.05 |
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16637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
他就去檢舉甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].start |
16637.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
16639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
還要求申請國賠 |
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16639.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
16641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
但是連法官 |
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16641.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
16643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
都看不下去認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].start |
16643.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].end |
16645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].text |
上課準時上學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
16645.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
16647.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
準時本來就是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
16647.05 |
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16649.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
該做的事情 |
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16649.05 |
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16651.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].text |
所以呢這個部分 |
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16651.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].end |
16653.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].text |
我們就回頭去看的時候我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].start |
16653.05 |
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16655.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
因為在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].start |
16655.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].end |
16657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
112年呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].start |
16657.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].end |
16659.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
有做一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].start |
16659.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].end |
16661.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].text |
那當時的理由我回頭去看 |
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16661.05 |
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16663.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].text |
是提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].start |
16663.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].end |
16665.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].text |
一罪不兩罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].start |
16665.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].end |
16667.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].text |
因為一罪不兩罰 |
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16667.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].end |
16669.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
所以呢112年的時候 |
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16669.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].end |
16671.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].text |
把這個國民小學及 |
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16671.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
16673.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].text |
國民中學學生獎 |
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16673.05 |
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16675.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].text |
成準則 |
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16675.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
16677.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].text |
去做了一個修法 |
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16677.05 |
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16679.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].text |
他說既然已經把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].start |
16679.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].end |
16681.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
學習納入了學習評量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].start |
16681.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
16683.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
缺礦課嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].start |
16683.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
16685.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
可能就會影響畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].start |
16685.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
16687.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].text |
資格因此 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].start |
16687.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
16689.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
就不再做記過或警告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].start |
16689.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
16691.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
的處分但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
16691.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
16693.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
我們可以發現過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].start |
16693.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
16695.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
如果有警告 |
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16696.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
16698.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
這樣的處分的時候他其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
16698.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
16700.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
有警示的作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
16700.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
16702.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
我至少知道說哎呦我被警告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
16702.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
16704.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
我要累計滿小過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
16704.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
16706.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
要大過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
16706.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
16708.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
所以呢現在修成這樣子 |
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16708.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
16710.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
之後就發現學生 |
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16710.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
16712.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
有恃無恐為什麼 |
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16712.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
16714.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
因為缺礦課要達 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
16714.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
16716.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
三分之一才有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
16716.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
16718.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
被打零分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
16718.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
16720.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
所以他只有到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
16720.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
16722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
最後期末終於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
16722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
16724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
要被退學無可挽救 |
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16724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
16726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
的時候他才知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
16726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
16728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
所以在這個部分 |
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16728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
16730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
我們發現說他也造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
16730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
16732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
了一個影響因為老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
16732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
16734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
他必須要有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
16734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
16736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
工具能夠去矯正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
16736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
16738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
要求學生的行為 |
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16738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
16740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
所以在這個地方我們又 |
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16740.16 |
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16742.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
看到113年 |
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16742.16 |
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16744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
2月的公佈 |
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16744.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
16746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
的這個正向管教 |
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16746.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
16748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
管教措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
16748.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
16750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
那我們會發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
16750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
16752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].text |
我隨便唸幾個來聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
16752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
16754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].text |
告訴老師說要這樣子教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
16754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
16756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
就是如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
16756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
16758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].text |
跟學生溝通的時候呢要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].start |
16758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
16760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
同理心了解學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].start |
16760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
16762.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
讓學生覺得 |
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16762.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
16764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].text |
被了解了之後再給予他 |
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16764.16 |
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16766.16 |
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指正建議所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].start |
16766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
16768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
他要求老師可以這麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
16768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
16770.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
你的好朋友找你打電玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
16770.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
16772.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
你似乎很難拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
16772.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
16774.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
但是如果繼續用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
16774.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
16776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
太多時間玩電玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
16776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
16778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
你也知道會有很多問題發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
16778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
16780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
怎麼辦呢讓老師跟同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
16780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
16782.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
一起來幫助你 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
16783.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
16785.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
書長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
16785.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
16787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
如果一個老師他是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].start |
16787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
16789.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
對孩子講話才叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
16789.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
16791.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
做正向管教您覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
16791.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
16793.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
有效果嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
16793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
16795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
16795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
16797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
早上部長對包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
16797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
16799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
葉委員還有現在的吳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
16799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
16801.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
這一類的這個屬於管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
16801.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
16803.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
當時電電管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
16803.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
16805.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
辦法注意事項的第23條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
16805.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
16807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
裡面有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
16807.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
16809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
正向管教的事例 |
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16809.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
16811.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
那個時候是113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
16811.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
16813.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
2月有一波 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
16813.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
16815.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
是為了處理當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
16815.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
16817.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
擱緊案的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
16817.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
16819.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
那有做了一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
16819.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
16821.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
那這一條當時應該沒有特別去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
16821.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
16823.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].start |
16823.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
16825.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
類似這一個部長剛才提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
16825.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
16827.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
會與時俱進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
16827.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
16829.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
在這一兩個月內會在很頻繁 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
16829.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
16831.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
邀集各單位一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].start |
16831.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].end |
16833.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
演唱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
16833.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
16835.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
因為他會落入什麼呢正面表列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
16837.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
16839.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].text |
誒 家長會去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].start |
16839.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
16841.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
不在這裡面的管教方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
16842.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
16844.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
那就是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].start |
16844.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
16846.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
於是就可以來檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].start |
16847.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
16849.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
那調查委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
16849.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
16851.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
他也不知道要用什麼判準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
16851.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
16853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
所以會衍生很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
16853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
16855.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
檢舉濫述的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].start |
16855.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
16857.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
16857.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
16859.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
我們針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].start |
16859.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
16861.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
我們的這個正向管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
16861.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
16863.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].start |
16863.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
16865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
還有他的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].start |
16865.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
16867.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
到底要怎麼樣去公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
16867.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
16869.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
那他呢太限縮 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].start |
16869.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
16871.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
而且呢沒有去考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].start |
16871.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
16873.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
階段的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
16873.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
16875.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
幾歲的孩子適合什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
16875.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
16877.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
我想這個部分可能要全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
16877.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
16879.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
的來檢討因為他衍生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
16879.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
16881.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].text |
會生出的就是我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].start |
16881.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
16883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
會掛一漏萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].start |
16883.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
16885.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
那很容易變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
16885.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
16887.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
濫述檢舉的一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].start |
16887.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
16889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
來源所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
16889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
16891.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
請署長能夠特別的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].start |
16891.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
16893.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
注意那我在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
16893.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
16895.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
就是因為我也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
16895.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
16897.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
全國教育的局署長會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
16897.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
16899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
在七號八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
16899.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
16901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
剛剛開完嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
16901.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
16903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
那我在兩個禮拜前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
16903.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
16905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
我有特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
16905.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
16907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
去做一個靈體就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].start |
16907.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
16909.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
希望能夠研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].start |
16909.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
16911.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
這個第三方調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].start |
16911.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
16913.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
機制的一個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
16913.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
16915.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
跟期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
16915.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
16917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
我不曉得說在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
16917.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
16919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
全國教育局署長會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
16919.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
16921.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
你們有沒有收集到意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
16923.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].end |
16925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].text |
各位回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].start |
16925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].end |
16927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].text |
基本上這個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].start |
16928.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].end |
16930.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
一月十二號這個版本之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].start |
16930.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].end |
16932.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].text |
在去年十一月 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
16932.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
16934.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
就詢問過一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
16934.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].end |
16936.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].text |
是那在這次 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
16936.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
16938.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
也有詢問過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
16938.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
16940.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
是那主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
16940.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
16942.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
兩點第一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
16942.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
16944.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
這個第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
16944.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
16946.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
如果是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
16947.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].end |
16949.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].text |
事件要進來前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].start |
16949.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].end |
16951.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
就能夠有一個判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].start |
16951.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].end |
16953.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].text |
那像高雄市 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].start |
16953.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].end |
16955.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
就怕這樣處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].start |
16955.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].end |
16957.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
如果校內處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].start |
16957.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
16959.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
怕人家覺得好像會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].start |
16959.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
16961.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
不當的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
16961.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
16963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
所以他就研商了一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
16963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
16965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
第三方的來去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
16966.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
16968.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
調處的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
16968.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].end |
16970.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
另外有一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
16970.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].end |
16972.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
是在認定時的第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
16972.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
16974.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
那這種第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
16974.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
16976.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
目前比較多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
16976.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].end |
16978.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
大部分地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
16978.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
16980.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
比較願意來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
16980.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].end |
16982.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
還沒有那麼快直接去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
16982.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
16984.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
違背到所謂的民間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
16984.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
16986.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
的第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
16986.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
16988.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
目前的第三方有一種是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
16988.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
16990.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
分區型的第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
16990.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
16992.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
有一種是地方政府的第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
16992.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
16994.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
大部分都還 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
16994.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
16996.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
都還比較是地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
16996.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
16998.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
用他們願意承擔的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].start |
16998.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].end |
17000.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].text |
讓學校比較免於負荷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].start |
17000.53 |
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17002.53 |
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這種承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].start |
17002.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].end |
17004.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].text |
來幫忙學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].start |
17004.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].end |
17006.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].text |
我很想聽一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].start |
17006.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].end |
17008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].text |
有哪一些縣市的教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].start |
17008.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].end |
17010.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].text |
他是很樂意縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].start |
17010.53 |
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17012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].text |
做第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].start |
17012.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].end |
17014.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].text |
這一個涉及到我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].start |
17014.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].end |
17016.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].text |
一些討論的細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].start |
17016.53 |
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17018.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].text |
跟其實那一天的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].start |
17018.53 |
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17020.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].text |
那麼多人大概我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].start |
17020.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].end |
17022.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].text |
這個時間可能是會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].start |
17022.53 |
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17024.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].text |
那你可不可以大致講個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].start |
17024.53 |
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17026.53 |
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是五分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].start |
17026.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].end |
17028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].text |
二分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].start |
17028.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].end |
17030.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].text |
三分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].start |
17030.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].end |
17032.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].text |
這一個並沒有全部的局處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].start |
17032.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].end |
17034.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].text |
二十二位都有發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].start |
17034.53 |
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17036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].text |
那大概是對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].start |
17036.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].end |
17038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].text |
譬如說他覺得這個他能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].start |
17038.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].end |
17040.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].text |
處理好的他支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].start |
17040.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].end |
17042.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].text |
那有些認為在行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].start |
17042.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].end |
17044.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].text |
負荷上是不是用分區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].start |
17044.53 |
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17046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].text |
或是學校其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].start |
17046.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].end |
17048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].text |
機制上更能理解那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].start |
17048.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].end |
17050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].text |
現場大概都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].start |
17050.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].end |
17052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].text |
那在就都的發言比較明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].start |
17052.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].end |
17054.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].text |
那其他縣市就比較靈心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].start |
17054.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].end |
17056.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].start |
17056.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].end |
17058.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].text |
那署長最後我就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].start |
17058.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].end |
17060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].text |
希望您可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].start |
17060.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].end |
17062.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].text |
來重視這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].start |
17062.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].end |
17064.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].text |
因為要處理這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].start |
17064.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].end |
17066.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].text |
濫訴那其實有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].start |
17066.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].end |
17068.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].text |
兩個障礙就是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].start |
17068.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].end |
17070.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].text |
他要面對法服 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].start |
17070.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].end |
17072.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].text |
救濟要進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].start |
17072.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].end |
17074.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].text |
訴訟才能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].start |
17074.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].end |
17076.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].text |
啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].start |
17075.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].end |
17077.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].text |
你知道這個部分就很困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].start |
17077.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].end |
17079.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].text |
那另外在過程中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].start |
17079.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].end |
17081.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].text |
舉證也相當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].start |
17081.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].end |
17083.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].text |
不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].start |
17082.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].end |
17084.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].text |
這個是現在老師們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].start |
17084.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].end |
17086.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].text |
所面臨的這樣的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].start |
17086.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].end |
17088.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].text |
我們明知道他可能是濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].start |
17088.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].end |
17090.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].text |
但是他就會有兩道障礙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].start |
17090.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].end |
17092.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].text |
就是我剛剛講的要進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].start |
17092.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].end |
17094.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].text |
訴訟才有辦法啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].start |
17094.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].end |
17096.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].text |
那過程中舉證也很困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].start |
17096.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].end |
17098.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].text |
所以我上次兩個禮拜前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].start |
17098.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].end |
17100.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].text |
的靈體才會提到就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].start |
17100.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].end |
17102.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].text |
教育部應救保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].start |
17102.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].end |
17104.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].text |
教師這個依法的管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].start |
17104.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].end |
17106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].text |
權還有建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].start |
17106.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].end |
17108.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].text |
防止濫訴檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].start |
17108.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].end |
17110.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].text |
建立一個救濟完善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].start |
17110.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].end |
17112.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].text |
救濟制度我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].start |
17112.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].end |
17114.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].text |
是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].start |
17114.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].end |
17116.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].text |
那我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].start |
17116.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].end |
17118.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].text |
教育部能夠持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].start |
17118.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].end |
17120.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].text |
就是按照這個我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].start |
17120.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].end |
17122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].text |
要求來去做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].start |
17122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].end |
17124.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].text |
那之前呢我們也很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].start |
17124.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].end |
17126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].text |
剛才有不斷的聽到您說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].start |
17126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].end |
17128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].text |
因為一月公告的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].start |
17128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].end |
17130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].text |
我們有提出一個要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].start |
17130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].end |
17132.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].text |
就是試行半年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].start |
17132.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].end |
17134.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].text |
你們要提出一個分析 |
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17134.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].end |
17136.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].text |
的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].start |
17136.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].end |
17138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].text |
那您在全國的教育局處會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].start |
17138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].end |
17140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].text |
好像教育部也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].start |
17140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].end |
17142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].text |
7月15號會提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].start |
17142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].end |
17144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].text |
7月15號之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].start |
17144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].end |
17146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].text |
所以這個部分我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].start |
17146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].end |
17148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].text |
我們署裡面能夠儘早的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].start |
17148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].end |
17150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].text |
把這樣的一個結果公布出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].start |
17150.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].end |
17152.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].text |
讓大家能夠更安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].start |
17152.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].end |
17154.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].text |
那更公開更透明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].start |
17154.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].end |
17156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].text |
廣納更多人的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].start |
17156.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].end |
17158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].text |
聲音進來一起檢討好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].start |
17158.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].end |
17160.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].text |
謝謝召回的指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].start |
17160.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].end |
17162.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].text |
謝謝署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].start |
17162.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].end |
17164.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].start |
17164.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].end |
17166.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].start |
17167.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].end |
17169.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].text |
不好意思是不是徵求委員同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].start |
17169.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].end |
17171.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].text |
我們休息五分鐘因為時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].start |
17171.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].end |
17173.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].text |
有官員說兩個小時沒有上廁所 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].start |
17175.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].end |
17177.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].start |
17177.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].end |
17179.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].start |
17178.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].end |
17180.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].text |
沒有被叫到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].start |
17181.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].end |
17183.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].text |
那個官員又要自行上廁所 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].start |
17183.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].end |
17185.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].text |
再麻煩大家自行前往 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].start |
17185.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].end |
17187.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].text |
那我們就繼續質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].start |
17191.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].end |
17193.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].text |
下一位無事要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].start |
17196.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].end |
17198.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].text |
我先請衛福部林次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].start |
17200.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].end |
17202.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].start |
17210.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].end |
17212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].text |
委員晚安 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].start |
17212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].end |
17214.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].text |
次長辛苦了真的從上午到下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].start |
17214.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].end |
17216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].text |
明天立法院還有一整天 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].start |
17216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].end |
17218.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].text |
九院長會負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].start |
17218.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].end |
17220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].text |
到立法院的大會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].start |
17220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].end |
17222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].text |
接受各黨派的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].start |
17222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].end |
17224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].text |
食安專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].start |
17224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].end |
17226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].text |
我想我們都理性的監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].start |
17226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].end |
17228.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].text |
但是我非常遺憾喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].start |
17228.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].end |
17230.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].text |
當我們在致癌油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].start |
17230.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].end |
17232.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].text |
問題油的事情還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].start |
17232.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].end |
17234.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].text |
釐清還在應變 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].start |
17234.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].end |
17236.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].text |
今天赫然又出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].start |
17236.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].end |
17238.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].text |
鋪天蓋地的錯假 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].start |
17238.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].end |
17240.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].text |
訊息說毒蘋果來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].start |
17242.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].end |
17244.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].text |
我覺得這些錯假訊息的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].start |
17244.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].end |
17246.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].text |
傳送者非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].start |
17246.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].end |
17248.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].text |
奇心可疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].start |
17249 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].end |
17251 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].text |
不斷的興風作浪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].start |
17251 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].end |
17253 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].text |
在整個社會對於食安議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].start |
17253 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].end |
17255 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].text |
高度關鍵的這個當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].start |
17255 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].end |
17257 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].text |
居然又惡意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].start |
17257 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].end |
17259 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].text |
在社群上散播 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].start |
17259 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].end |
17261 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].text |
我想請您說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].start |
17261 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].end |
17263 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].text |
所謂社群上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].start |
17263 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].end |
17265 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].text |
散播的食藥署放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].start |
17265 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].end |
17269 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].text |
蘋果農藥分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].start |
17269 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].end |
17271 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].text |
殘留標準放寬了六倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].start |
17271 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].end |
17273 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].text |
也就是政府要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].start |
17273 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].end |
17275 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].text |
人民從美國進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].start |
17275 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].end |
17277 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].text |
吃到毒蘋果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].start |
17277 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].end |
17279 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].text |
是事實嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].start |
17279.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].end |
17281.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].text |
所以分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].start |
17281.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].end |
17283.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].text |
跟分普尼有什麼不同? |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].start |
17283.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].end |
17285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].text |
您請要跟大家刻意 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].start |
17285.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].end |
17287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].text |
這兩個是用在不一樣的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].start |
17287.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].end |
17289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].text |
我是不是請副署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].start |
17289.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].end |
17291.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].text |
快速的跟大家講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].start |
17291.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].end |
17293.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].text |
我看到社群上已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].start |
17293.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].end |
17295.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].text |
穿著一片 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].start |
17295.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].end |
17297.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].text |
我們這次訂的是分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].start |
17297.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].end |
17299.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].text |
安寧的寧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].start |
17299.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].end |
17301.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].text |
那這個是在國內本來就主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].start |
17301.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].end |
17303.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].text |
而不是分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].start |
17303.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].end |
17305.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].text |
那分普尼這個藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].start |
17305.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].end |
17307.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].text |
是在國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].start |
17307.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].end |
17309.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].text |
水旋劑是禁止使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].start |
17309.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].end |
17311.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].text |
它只是准許使用利劑 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].start |
17311.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].end |
17313.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].text |
所以它有一部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].start |
17313.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].end |
17315.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].text |
是被禁掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].start |
17315.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].end |
17317.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].text |
所以這兩個藥是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].start |
17317.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].end |
17319.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].text |
完全不一樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].start |
17319.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].end |
17321.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].text |
是完全不一樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].start |
17321.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].end |
17323.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].text |
而且政府是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].start |
17323.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].end |
17325.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].text |
基於科學把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].start |
17325.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].end |
17327.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].text |
而不是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].start |
17327.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].end |
17329.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].text |
美國與台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].start |
17329.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].end |
17331.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].text |
關稅協定 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].start |
17331.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].end |
17333.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].text |
而被迫放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].start |
17333.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].end |
17335.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].text |
也就是以美論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].start |
17335.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].end |
17337.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].text |
就是以美論現在又被操作了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].start |
17337.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].end |
17339.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].text |
所以品項不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].start |
17339.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].end |
17341.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].text |
分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].start |
17341.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].end |
17343.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].text |
分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].start |
17343.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].end |
17345.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].text |
兩者大不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].start |
17345.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].end |
17347.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].text |
而也沒有放寬標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].start |
17347.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].end |
17349.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].text |
六倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].start |
17349.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].end |
17351.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].text |
我們一切是基於科學的把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].start |
17351.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].end |
17353.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].text |
依據科學的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].start |
17353.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].end |
17355.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].text |
我想跟我們補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].start |
17355.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].end |
17357.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].text |
就是說我們其實因為有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].start |
17357.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].end |
17359.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].text |
台灣事實上是有各式各樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].start |
17359.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].end |
17361.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].text |
蔬果食品等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].start |
17361.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].end |
17363.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].text |
跟全世界在做貿易 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].start |
17363.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].end |
17365.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].text |
所以我們要進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].start |
17365.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].end |
17367.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].text |
進口出口依據不同的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].start |
17367.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].end |
17369.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].text |
不同的食用的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].start |
17369.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].end |
17371.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].text |
那它的相關的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].start |
17371.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].end |
17373.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].text |
以及不同的國家在種植物的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].start |
17373.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].end |
17375.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].text |
所用到的藥品等等不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].start |
17375.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].end |
17377.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].text |
所以其實定期我們在農藥的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].start |
17377.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].end |
17379.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].text |
農藥殘留標準的檢驗裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].start |
17379.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].end |
17381.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].text |
都是定期在驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].start |
17381.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].end |
17383.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].text |
所以說這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].start |
17383.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].end |
17385.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].text |
那我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].start |
17385.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].end |
17387.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].text |
目前社群上的這些惡意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].start |
17387.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].end |
17389.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].text |
傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].start |
17389.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].end |
17391.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].text |
你們依法規依食安法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].start |
17391.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].end |
17393.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].text |
可以搜證 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].start |
17393.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].end |
17395.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].text |
可以要求查處 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].start |
17395.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].end |
17397.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].text |
可以嚴格法辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].start |
17397.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].end |
17399.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].text |
而且可以要求平台下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].start |
17399.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].end |
17401.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].text |
目前進行的如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].start |
17401.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].end |
17403.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].text |
目前食藥署會發文針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].start |
17403.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].end |
17405.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].text |
就是有這些錯誤的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].start |
17405.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].end |
17407.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].text |
或者是蓄意散播謠言的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].start |
17407.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].end |
17409.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].text |
我們會發文給相關平台業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].start |
17409.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].end |
17411.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].text |
那如果大家有明確發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].start |
17411.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].end |
17413.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].text |
有蓄意要造謠的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].start |
17413.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].end |
17415.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].text |
也可以讓我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].start |
17415.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].end |
17417.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].text |
我想Meta |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].start |
17417.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].end |
17419.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].text |
目前為止似乎還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].start |
17419.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].end |
17421.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].text |
強制下架相關的文章 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].start |
17421.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].end |
17423.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].text |
你們要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].start |
17423.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].end |
17425.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].text |
我們依法有授權嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].start |
17425.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].end |
17427.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].text |
要求平台業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].start |
17427.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].end |
17429.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].text |
要負起他的社會責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].start |
17429.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].end |
17431.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].text |
不要讓這些錯假的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].start |
17431.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].end |
17433.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].text |
不斷的藉由平台的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].start |
17433.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].end |
17435.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].text |
這種無遠弗屆的傳播力 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].start |
17435.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].end |
17437.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].text |
我今天早上等了一個上午 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].start |
17437.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].end |
17439.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].text |
一直在刷 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].start |
17439.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].end |
17441.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].text |
已經轉傳到非常離譜的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].start |
17441.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].end |
17443.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].text |
所以我被迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].start |
17443.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].end |
17445.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].text |
在今天的質詢請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].start |
17445.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].end |
17447.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].text |
再一次的以正視聽好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].start |
17447.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].end |
17449.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].text |
謝謝委員我們新聞稿已經發了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].start |
17449.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].end |
17451.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].text |
那相關的這個跟平台聯繫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].start |
17451.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].end |
17453.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].text |
我們今天下午會立刻處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].start |
17453.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].end |
17455.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].text |
我們也呼籲所有的國人安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].start |
17455.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].end |
17457.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].text |
沒有毒蘋果這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].start |
17457.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].end |
17459.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].text |
沒有放寬分譜 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].start |
17459.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].end |
17461.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].text |
泥溜被標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].start |
17461.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].end |
17463.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].text |
這件事沒有政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].start |
17463.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].end |
17465.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].text |
為了跟美國的官稅談判 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].start |
17465.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].end |
17467.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].text |
ART的順利結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7102].start |
17467.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7102].end |
17469.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7102].text |
而犧牲了國人的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[7103].start |
17469.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7103].end |
17471.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7103].text |
都沒有這些事 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].start |
17471.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].end |
17473.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].text |
大家要能夠分辨這些錯假的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].start |
17473.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].end |
17475.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].text |
大家也彼此的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].start |
17475.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].end |
17477.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].text |
那我請署長彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].start |
17477.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].end |
17479.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].text |
是洗手間不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].start |
17482.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].end |
17484.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].text |
有請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].start |
17483.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].end |
17485.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].text |
自然你可能也稍後一下下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].start |
17487.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].end |
17489.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].start |
17490.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].end |
17495.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].text |
我非常仔細的針對這一次的校園食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].start |
17495.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].end |
17497.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].text |
我們的整個管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].start |
17497.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].end |
17499.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].text |
我去就法規面制度面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].start |
17499.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].end |
17502.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].text |
再去重盤檢視了一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].start |
17502.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].end |
17504.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].text |
在法規面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].start |
17504.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].end |
17506.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].text |
我們可以依據的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[7117].start |
17506.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7117].end |
17508.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7117].text |
有食品安全衛生管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].start |
17508.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].end |
17510.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].text |
在校園端 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].start |
17510.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].end |
17512.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].text |
我們有學校衛生法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].start |
17512.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].end |
17514.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].text |
可以來落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7121].start |
17514.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7121].end |
17516.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7121].text |
校園食品安全的管理責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].start |
17516.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].end |
17518.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].text |
我們另外還有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7123].start |
17518.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7123].end |
17522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7123].text |
學校餐廳廚房原生消費合作社 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].start |
17522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].end |
17524.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].text |
衛生管理辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].start |
17524.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].end |
17527.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].text |
進一步針對衛生管理制度來下手 |
| transcript.whisperx[7126].start |
17527.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7126].end |
17529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7126].text |
我們同樣可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].start |
17529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].end |
17532.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].text |
經由現在的學校午餐食物內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].start |
17532.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].end |
17534.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].text |
營養基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].start |
17534.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].end |
17536.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].text |
還有校園飲品點心販售範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].start |
17536.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].end |
17538.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].text |
等等行政規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].start |
17538.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].end |
17540.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].text |
所以在法制面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].start |
17540.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].end |
17542.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].text |
我可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].start |
17542.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].end |
17546.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].text |
面對任何可能衝擊學生安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].start |
17546.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].end |
17548.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].text |
食安在法制面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].start |
17548.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].end |
17550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].text |
校園目前是非常完備的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7136].start |
17550.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7136].end |
17554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7136].text |
也在這些法律的授權之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].start |
17554.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].end |
17556.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].text |
看看這個最左手邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].start |
17556.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].end |
17558.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].text |
就是這一次的教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].start |
17558.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].end |
17560.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].text |
校園食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].start |
17560.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].end |
17562.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].text |
它確實是發揮了作用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].start |
17562.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].end |
17564.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].text |
我們可以一筆一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].start |
17564.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].end |
17567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].text |
快速的透過食材登錄的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].start |
17567.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].end |
17569.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].text |
去追蹤流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].start |
17572.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].end |
17574.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].text |
所以這個系統是2020年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].start |
17574.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].end |
17576.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].text |
商務到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].start |
17576.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].end |
17578.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].text |
我想法規的完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].start |
17578.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].end |
17582.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].text |
制度還有這個平台的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].start |
17582.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].end |
17584.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].text |
有沒有順利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].start |
17584.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].end |
17587.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].text |
尤其在應變的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].start |
17587.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].end |
17589.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].text |
這是我最關切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].start |
17589.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].end |
17591.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].text |
而我這一次發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].start |
17591.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].end |
17596.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].text |
你們另外還新設了一個Line的通報小尖兵是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].start |
17596.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].end |
17597.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].start |
17597.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].end |
17599.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].text |
這個作用是補什麼制不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].start |
17603.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].end |
17605.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].text |
這個我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].start |
17605.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].end |
17607.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].text |
我們除了剛剛講的一些機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].start |
17607.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].end |
17609.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].text |
包含E-mail還有我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].start |
17609.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].end |
17611.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].text |
現實的直接的人工通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].start |
17611.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].end |
17613.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].text |
怕漏掉之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].start |
17613.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].end |
17614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].text |
我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].start |
17614.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].end |
17616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].text |
我們另外要做了一軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].start |
17616.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].end |
17618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].text |
所以說這一次在新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].start |
17618.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].end |
17620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].text |
作為現有的食材登錄平台裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].start |
17620.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].end |
17622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].text |
我們要快速的訂定一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].start |
17622.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].end |
17624.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].text |
方便學校發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].start |
17624.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].end |
17626.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].text |
任何可疑的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].start |
17626.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].end |
17630.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].text |
可以快速主動的透過這個Line的通報小尖兵的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].start |
17630.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].end |
17632.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].text |
可以回溯也可以回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].start |
17632.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].end |
17634.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].text |
給各地的縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[7170].start |
17634.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7170].end |
17636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7170].text |
包括教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].start |
17636.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].end |
17638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].text |
這個部分我在制度面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].start |
17638.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].end |
17640.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].text |
我是要給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].start |
17640.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].end |
17642.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].text |
您的反應夠快 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].start |
17642.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].end |
17643.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].text |
但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].start |
17643.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].end |
17645.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].text |
這就要有教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].start |
17645.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].end |
17648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].text |
我們有行政院的小寶處的同仁在這裡嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].start |
17649.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].end |
17651.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].text |
這一次來副處長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].start |
17651.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].end |
17653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].text |
這一次的食安的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].start |
17653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].end |
17655.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].text |
跨部會都要動起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].start |
17655.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].end |
17657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].text |
第一時間徹查下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].start |
17657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].end |
17659.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].text |
所有有淋濾的油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7182].start |
17660.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7182].end |
17661.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7182].text |
第二步 |
| transcript.whisperx[7183].start |
17661.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7183].end |
17663.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7183].text |
嚴格的法辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7184].start |
17663.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7184].end |
17664.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7184].text |
重罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].start |
17664.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].end |
17666.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].text |
不罰的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].start |
17666.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].end |
17668.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].text |
第三關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].start |
17668.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].end |
17670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].text |
也就是依據我們食安法有所授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].start |
17670.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].end |
17672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].text |
我們可以啟動食安基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].start |
17672.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].end |
17674.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].text |
協助廣大的消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].start |
17674.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].end |
17676.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].text |
除了退換貨之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].start |
17676.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].end |
17678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].text |
要可以經由 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].start |
17678.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].end |
17680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].text |
一個集體的訴訟來求償 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].start |
17680.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].end |
17682.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].text |
我不曉得現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].start |
17682.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].end |
17684.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].text |
行政院的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].start |
17684.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].end |
17686.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].text |
尤其在校園可能就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].start |
17686.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].end |
17688.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].text |
替各級學校一併來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].start |
17688.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].end |
17690.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].text |
集體求償的一個有效的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].start |
17690.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].end |
17692.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].text |
請問行政院目前的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].start |
17692.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].end |
17694.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].text |
是這個跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].start |
17694.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].end |
17696.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].text |
委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].start |
17696.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].end |
17698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].text |
提起消費團體訴訟這個區塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].start |
17698.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].end |
17700.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].text |
我們已經協調了國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].start |
17700.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].end |
17702.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].text |
兩個優良的消保團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].start |
17702.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].end |
17704.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].text |
也跟他們做過相關的一些協調協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].start |
17704.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].end |
17706.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].text |
他們都願意積極來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].start |
17706.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].end |
17708.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].text |
將來的團體訴訟的相關後續的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].start |
17708.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].end |
17710.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].start |
17710.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].end |
17712.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].start |
17712.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].end |
17714.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].start |
17714.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].end |
17716.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].start |
17716.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].end |
17718.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].start |
17718.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].end |
17720.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].start |
17720.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].end |
17722.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].text |
將來是多久的將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].start |
17718.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].end |
17720.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].text |
目前來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].start |
17720.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].end |
17722.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].text |
其實還是在目前來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].start |
17722.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].end |
17724.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].text |
因為有30件的申訴案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].start |
17724.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].end |
17726.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].text |
所以那部分我們還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].start |
17726.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].end |
17728.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].text |
持續的收集這些申訴的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].start |
17728.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].end |
17730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].text |
那將來的話會有一些相關的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].start |
17730.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].end |
17732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].text |
譬如說在104年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].start |
17732.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].end |
17734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].text |
其實那時候也發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].start |
17734.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].end |
17736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].text |
實名以由的相關的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].start |
17736.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].end |
17738.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].text |
所以我們會協調優良的消保團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].start |
17738.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].end |
17740.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].text |
那我們會訂出相關的一些規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].start |
17740.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].end |
17742.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].text |
譬如說我們會協請我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].start |
17742.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].end |
17744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].text |
教育部我們的國教署 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].start |
17744.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].end |
17746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].text |
來跟校園的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].start |
17746.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].end |
17748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].text |
受害的這些師生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].start |
17748.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].end |
17750.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].text |
做一些這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].start |
17750.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].end |
17752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].text |
詢問說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].start |
17752.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].end |
17754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].text |
然後做一些相關的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].start |
17754.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].end |
17756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].text |
我知道你們動作也很快 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].start |
17756.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].end |
17758.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].text |
已經有兩家優良的消保團體願意來承接 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].start |
17758.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].end |
17760.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].text |
那在這裡就把訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].start |
17760.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].end |
17762.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].text |
請彭署長還有我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].start |
17762.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].end |
17764.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].text |
這裡協助未來可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].start |
17764.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].end |
17766.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].text |
學生跟教職員員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].start |
17766.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].end |
17768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].text |
在內的校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].start |
17768.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].end |
17770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].text |
的集體訴訟的酋長可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].start |
17770.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].end |
17772.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].text |
會是一個重要必須要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].start |
17772.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].end |
17774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].text |
進行的法律的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].start |
17774.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].end |
17776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].text |
我想我們橫向聯繫請行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].start |
17776.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].end |
17778.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].text |
來快速來協助我們好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].start |
17778.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].end |
17780.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].text |
好下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].start |
17780.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].end |
17782.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].text |
剛剛武麗華委員有針對食安法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].start |
17782.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].end |
17784.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].text |
修法我想我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].start |
17784.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].end |
17786.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].text |
基本上是同意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].start |
17786.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].end |
17788.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].text |
我歸納出未來修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].start |
17788.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].end |
17790.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].text |
我們要補強這一次三級 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].start |
17790.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].end |
17792.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].text |
品管確實讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].start |
17792.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].end |
17794.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].text |
很疑惑四月 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].start |
17794.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].end |
17796.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].text |
發生但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].start |
17796.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].end |
17798.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].text |
中央政府到六月三十號 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].start |
17798.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].end |
17800.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].text |
才明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].start |
17800.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].end |
17802.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].text |
接獲到通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].start |
17802.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].end |
17804.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].text |
當然延至三級的品管 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].start |
17804.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].end |
17806.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].text |
的制度我們確實要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].start |
17806.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].end |
17808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].text |
法規面去強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].start |
17808.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].end |
17810.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].text |
所以我提出了這四點歸納 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].start |
17810.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].end |
17812.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].text |
也提供給你們未來在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].start |
17812.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].end |
17814.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].text |
修法要做參照 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].start |
17814.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].end |
17816.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].text |
當然強化源頭的控管 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].start |
17816.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].end |
17818.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].text |
我想衛福部已經看到問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].start |
17818.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].end |
17820.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].text |
第二個在製程端 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].start |
17820.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].end |
17822.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].text |
的嚴格審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].start |
17822.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].end |
17824.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].text |
有效的進行試驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].start |
17824.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].end |
17826.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].text |
抽驗如果有重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].start |
17826.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].end |
17828.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].text |
製程或原料的來源變更 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].start |
17828.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].end |
17830.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].text |
的話我想就你們也會納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].start |
17830.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].end |
17832.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].text |
第三個我也會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].start |
17832.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].end |
17834.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].text |
提高業者自主檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].start |
17834.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].end |
17836.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].text |
的頻率而且強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].start |
17836.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].end |
17838.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].text |
的通報上傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].start |
17838.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].end |
17840.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].text |
當然第三方的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].start |
17840.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].end |
17842.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].text |
義務我們引進第三方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].start |
17842.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].end |
17844.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].text |
檢驗機構的資格認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].start |
17844.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].end |
17846.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].text |
就可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].start |
17846.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].end |
17848.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].text |
杜絕廠商隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].start |
17848.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].end |
17850.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].text |
的這些疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].start |
17850.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].end |
17852.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].text |
我想我歸納出四大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].start |
17852.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].end |
17854.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].text |
的食安修法的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].start |
17854.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].end |
17856.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].text |
衛福部是不是都納入參照 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].start |
17856.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].end |
17858.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].text |
快速的啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].start |
17858.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].end |
17860.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].text |
會相關一起來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].start |
17860.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].end |
17862.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].text |
謝謝辛苦大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].start |
17862.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].end |
17864.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].text |
我想明天立法院還有一整天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].start |
17864.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].end |
17866.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].text |
專報謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].start |
17866.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].end |
17868.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].text |
不好意思部長李行克我請 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].start |
17868.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].end |
17870.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].text |
鄭部長我後面這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].start |
17871.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].end |
17873.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].text |
今天呢來部長辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].start |
17874.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].end |
17876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].text |
我今天後來發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].start |
17876.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].end |
17878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].text |
召委有另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].start |
17878.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].end |
17880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].text |
議案今天也排了審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].start |
17880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].end |
17882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].text |
對不起詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].start |
17882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].end |
17884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].text |
就是教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].start |
17884.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].end |
17886.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].text |
經費編列與管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].start |
17886.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].end |
17888.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].text |
那也有在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].start |
17888.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].end |
17890.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].text |
的委員明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].start |
17890.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].end |
17892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].text |
的入法修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].start |
17892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].end |
17894.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].text |
要求各級政府教育經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].start |
17894.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].end |
17896.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].text |
的預算合計 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].start |
17896.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].end |
17898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].text |
不應低於該年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].start |
17898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].end |
17900.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].text |
籌編十前三 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].start |
17900.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].end |
17902.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].text |
年決算稅入進額 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].start |
17902.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].end |
17904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].text |
和平均值的百分之二十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].start |
17904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].end |
17906.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].text |
從現有的百分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].start |
17906.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].end |
17908.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].text |
二十三的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].start |
17908.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].end |
17910.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].text |
提升一個百分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].start |
17910.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].end |
17912.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].text |
二十四 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].start |
17912.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].end |
17914.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].text |
問題這一個百分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].start |
17914.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].end |
17916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].text |
在中央的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].start |
17916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].end |
17918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].text |
支出就非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].start |
17918.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].end |
17920.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].text |
龐大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].start |
17919.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].end |
17921.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].text |
部長大概是將近四百億吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].start |
17923.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].end |
17925.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].text |
當然我不需要再贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].start |
17925.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].end |
17927.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].text |
對於財政紀律法第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].start |
17927.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].end |
17929.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].text |
第七條立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].start |
17929.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].end |
17931.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].text |
不能片面增加政府支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].start |
17931.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].end |
17933.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].text |
更不得增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].start |
17933.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].end |
17935.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].text |
固定的經費額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].start |
17935.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].end |
17937.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].text |
或比例的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].start |
17937.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].end |
17939.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].text |
我都不需要再贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].start |
17939.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].end |
17941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].text |
只是這些立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].start |
17941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].end |
17943.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].text |
一而再再而三的要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].start |
17943.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].end |
17945.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].text |
違法來修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].start |
17945.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].end |
17947.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].start |
17947.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].end |
17949.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].text |
部長這是我們的警訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].start |
17950.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].end |
17952.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].text |
這個表呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].start |
17952.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].end |
17956.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].text |
上一周的質詢我只做到ABCD啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].start |
17956.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].end |
17958.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].text |
現在又加了一個1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].start |
17958.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].end |
17960.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].text |
趙偉在拍照很好請記錄喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].start |
17961.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].end |
17963.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].start |
17963.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].end |
17965.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].text |
大學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].start |
17965.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].end |
17967.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].text |
高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7335].start |
17967.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7335].end |
17969.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7335].text |
專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].start |
17969.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].end |
17971.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].text |
也就是學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].start |
17971.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].end |
17973.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].text |
強制透過立委的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].start |
17973.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].end |
17975.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].text |
片面增加而且中央全負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7339].start |
17975.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7339].end |
17977.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7339].text |
一年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].start |
17977.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].end |
17979.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].text |
國庫一百到四百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].start |
17979.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].end |
17981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].text |
B就是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].start |
17981.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].end |
17983.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].text |
專法下午可能會逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].start |
17983.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].end |
17985.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].text |
每年強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].start |
17985.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].end |
17987.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].text |
要求中央買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].start |
17987.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].end |
17989.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].text |
又要增加國庫一百三十八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7346].start |
17989.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7346].end |
17991.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7346].text |
C幼兒教育及照顧法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].start |
17991.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].end |
17993.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].text |
又要求中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[7348].start |
17993.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7348].end |
17995.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7348].text |
地方負擔的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].start |
17995.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].end |
17997.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].text |
又強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7350].start |
17997.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7350].end |
17999.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7350].text |
得來入法中央又 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].start |
17999.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].end |
18001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].text |
大失血每年要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].start |
18001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].end |
18003.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].text |
四百到六百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].start |
18003.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].end |
18005.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].text |
第一呢國教向下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].start |
18005.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].end |
18007.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].text |
延伸而且是中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].start |
18007.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].end |
18009.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].text |
買單一次性的硬體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].start |
18009.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].end |
18011.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].text |
增加至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].start |
18011.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].end |
18013.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].text |
八十億而每年常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].start |
18013.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].end |
18015.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].text |
會增加國庫一百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].start |
18016.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].end |
18018.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].text |
到ABCDE |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].start |
18018.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].end |
18020.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].text |
今天最新的教育經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].start |
18020.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].end |
18022.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].text |
編列與管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].start |
18022.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].end |
18024.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].text |
又因為這個一個% |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].start |
18024.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].end |
18026.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].text |
的修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].start |
18026.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].end |
18028.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].text |
每年國庫又要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].start |
18028.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].end |
18030.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].text |
四百億所以ABCDE |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].start |
18030.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].end |
18032.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].text |
加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].start |
18032.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].end |
18034.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].text |
教育部每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].start |
18034.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].end |
18036.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].text |
要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].start |
18036.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].end |
18038.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].text |
一千一百三十八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].start |
18038.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].end |
18040.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].text |
到一千六百 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].start |
18040.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].end |
18042.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].text |
三十八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].start |
18042.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].end |
18044.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].text |
加上固定的硬體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].start |
18044.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].end |
18046.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].text |
八十億一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].start |
18047.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].end |
18049.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].text |
每年國家又要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].start |
18049.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].end |
18051.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].text |
有一千一百三十八到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].start |
18051.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].end |
18053.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].text |
一千六百三十八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].start |
18055.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].end |
18057.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].text |
教育部有錢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].start |
18059.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].end |
18061.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].text |
我們才華法我們一年教育部少了多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].start |
18065.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].end |
18067.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].text |
教育部少了九百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].start |
18069 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].end |
18071 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].text |
我們有不停教育嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].start |
18071 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].end |
18073 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].text |
夏業 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].start |
18072.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].end |
18074.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].text |
當我們的國家財政有餘裕 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].start |
18076.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].end |
18078.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].text |
我們來看看我從2017年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].start |
18080.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].end |
18082.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].text |
我們所編列的教育預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].start |
18083.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].end |
18085.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].text |
到2026年我來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].start |
18085.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].end |
18087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].text |
這十年間 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].start |
18087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].end |
18089.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].text |
我們total |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].start |
18089.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].end |
18091.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].text |
的教育的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].start |
18091.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].end |
18093.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].text |
是增加一千七百 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].start |
18093.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].end |
18095.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].text |
三十一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].start |
18095.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].end |
18097.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].text |
成長的比例是百分之七十九 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].start |
18097.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].end |
18099.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].text |
點四 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].start |
18099.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].end |
18101.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].text |
換言之成長了百分之八十 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].start |
18101.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].end |
18103.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].text |
這是當我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].start |
18103.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].end |
18105.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].text |
有餘裕 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].start |
18105.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].end |
18107.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].text |
我們一定大力投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].start |
18107.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].end |
18109.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].text |
在教育上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].start |
18109.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].end |
18111.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].text |
而這個權力是誰的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].start |
18111.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].end |
18113.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].text |
行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].start |
18113.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].end |
18115.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].text |
行政權可以合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].start |
18115.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].end |
18117.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].text |
去分配我對於國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].start |
18117.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].end |
18119.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].text |
預算的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].start |
18119.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].end |
18121.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].text |
這就是具體的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].start |
18122.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].end |
18124.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].text |
所以從2017到2025 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].start |
18124.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].end |
18126.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].text |
我們每一年都提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].start |
18128.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].end |
18130.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].text |
八年間增加一千七百三十一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].start |
18132.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].end |
18134.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].text |
比起剛剛委員他修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].start |
18134.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].end |
18136.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].text |
一個percent每年強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].start |
18136.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].end |
18138.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].text |
的四百 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].start |
18137.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].end |
18139.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].text |
我們其實能做的我們絕對大幅的超車 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].start |
18141.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].end |
18143.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].text |
而這當中唯一的一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].start |
18143.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].end |
18145.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].text |
我們的教育經費不減反增 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].start |
18145.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].end |
18147.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].text |
是哪一年呢部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].start |
18147.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].end |
18149.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].text |
就是我們受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].start |
18149.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].end |
18151.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].text |
才化法衝擊中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].start |
18151.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].end |
18153.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].text |
四千一百六十五億被搬走 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].start |
18153.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].end |
18155.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].text |
的那一年所以我們從 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].start |
18155.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].end |
18157.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].text |
2025國家的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].start |
18157.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].end |
18159.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].text |
投資來到3910 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].start |
18159.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].end |
18161.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].text |
億的史上新高 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].start |
18161.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].end |
18163.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].text |
被迫因為才化法錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].start |
18163.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].end |
18165.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].text |
搬到地方去了我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].start |
18165.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].end |
18167.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].text |
往下修變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].start |
18167.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].end |
18169.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].text |
三千四百一十億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].start |
18170.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].end |
18172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].text |
即便如此我們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].start |
18172.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].end |
18174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].text |
大幅成長了56.4% |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].start |
18174.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].end |
18176.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].text |
的教育投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].start |
18177.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].end |
18179.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].text |
所以我要說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].start |
18179.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].end |
18181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].text |
我們重視教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].start |
18181.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].end |
18183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].text |
我們加碼教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].start |
18183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].end |
18185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].text |
國家的財源合理分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].start |
18186.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].end |
18188.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].text |
教育部絕對拼了命的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].start |
18188.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].end |
18190.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].text |
去爭取預算這每一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].start |
18190.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].end |
18192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].text |
不就是你們爭取來的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].start |
18194.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].end |
18196.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].text |
我們要大聲的告訴社會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].start |
18198.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].end |
18200.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].text |
我們要告訴所有負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].start |
18200.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].end |
18202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].text |
這些立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7438].start |
18203.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7438].end |
18205.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7438].text |
修法不是那麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[7439].start |
18207.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7439].end |
18209.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7439].text |
你寫了一個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7440].start |
18209.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7440].end |
18211.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7440].text |
多一趴少一趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[7441].start |
18211.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7441].end |
18213.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7441].text |
可是對於整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7442].start |
18213.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7442].end |
18215.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7442].text |
預算權限就是行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7443].start |
18216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7443].end |
18218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7443].text |
我們難道有虧待預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7444].start |
18218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7444].end |
18220.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7444].text |
我們有虧待教育嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7445].start |
18220.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7445].end |
18222.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7445].text |
部長我時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7446].start |
18222.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7446].end |
18224.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7446].text |
我就停留在這一個頁面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7447].start |
18225.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7447].end |
18227.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7447].text |
你們好好去論述吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7448].start |
18227.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7448].end |
18229.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7448].text |
我們這十年前努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7449].start |
18229.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7449].end |
18231.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7449].text |
成長了80%的教育預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7450].start |
18231.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7450].end |
18233.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7450].text |
這是我們的用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7451].start |
18233.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7451].end |
18235.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7451].text |
因為陳主委所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[7452].start |
18235.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7452].end |
18237.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7452].text |
如果把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7453].start |
18237.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7453].end |
18239.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7453].text |
財務法以後這個教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7454].start |
18239.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7454].end |
18241.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7454].text |
跟行政院的一般補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7455].start |
18241.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7455].end |
18243.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7455].text |
用在補助地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7456].start |
18243.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7456].end |
18245.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7456].text |
這個整個我們今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7457].start |
18245.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7457].end |
18247.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7457].text |
事實上的預算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7458].start |
18247.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7458].end |
18249.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7458].text |
4300億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7459].start |
18249.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7459].end |
18251.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7459].text |
又史上新高了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7460].start |
18251.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7460].end |
18253.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7460].text |
如果沒有應援 |
| transcript.whisperx[7461].start |
18253.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7461].end |
18255.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7461].text |
等於切出去了將近900億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7462].start |
18255.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7462].end |
18257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7462].text |
所以我們才會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7463].start |
18257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7463].end |
18259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7463].text |
這個只有3400 |
| transcript.whisperx[7464].start |
18259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7464].end |
18261.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7464].text |
好我回到財劃法最後一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[7465].start |
18261.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7465].end |
18263.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7465].text |
要修這個法下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[7466].start |
18263.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7466].end |
18265.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7466].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7467].start |
18264.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7467].end |
18266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7467].text |
我們請在野黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7468].start |
18266.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7468].end |
18268.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7468].text |
不要持續冷凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[7469].start |
18268.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7469].end |
18270.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7469].text |
丟包了行政院版的財劃法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7470].start |
18273.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7470].end |
18275.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7470].text |
行政院版的財劃法216天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7471].start |
18275.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7471].end |
18277.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7471].text |
216天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7472].start |
18277.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7472].end |
18279.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7472].text |
216天被冷凍了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7473].start |
18281.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7473].end |
18283.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7473].text |
我們替國家人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[7474].start |
18283.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7474].end |
18285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7474].text |
孩童爭取教育預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7475].start |
18285.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7475].end |
18287.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7475].text |
但是中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7476].start |
18287.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7476].end |
18289.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7476].text |
一起來全責相扶 |
| transcript.whisperx[7477].start |
18289.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7477].end |
18291.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7477].text |
一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7478].start |
18291.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7478].end |
18293.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7478].text |
協助教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7479].start |
18293.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7479].end |
18295.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7479].text |
做得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7480].start |
18295.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7480].end |
18297.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[7480].text |
而根本就是回到財劃法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7481].start |
18298.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7481].end |
18300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7481].text |
今天委員們片面提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7482].start |
18300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7482].end |
18302.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7482].text |
教育經費編列的這個管理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7483].start |
18303.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7483].end |
18305.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7483].text |
片面的在修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7484].start |
18305.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7484].end |
18307.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7484].text |
卻無視於財政的根本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7485].start |
18307.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7485].end |
18309.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7485].text |
大法財劃法還躺在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7486].start |
18311.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7486].end |
18313.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7486].text |
如果如委員今天所提的這個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7487].start |
18314.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7487].end |
18316.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7487].text |
連水費電費這些依據地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7488].start |
18316.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7488].end |
18318.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7488].text |
都應當地方分擔的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].start |
18318.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].end |
18320.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].text |
還有營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[7490].start |
18320.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7490].end |
18322.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7490].text |
強制要中央買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[7491].start |
18323.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7491].end |
18325.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7491].text |
我覺得這才是真正的教育的災難 |
| transcript.whisperx[7492].start |
18327.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7492].end |
18329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7492].text |
這真的才是教育的災難 |
| transcript.whisperx[7493].start |
18329.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7493].end |
18331.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7493].text |
我剛剛整理了部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7494].start |
18332.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7494].end |
18334.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7494].text |
就這個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[7495].start |
18334.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7495].end |
18336.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7495].text |
教育委員會提出來的前坑肉桶 |
| transcript.whisperx[7496].start |
18336.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7496].end |
18338.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7496].text |
違反行政分立的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7497].start |
18338.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7497].end |
18340.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7497].text |
一年教育部制多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7498].start |
18340.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7498].end |
18342.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7498].text |
又要再支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].start |
18342.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].end |
18344.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].text |
1638億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7500].start |
18346.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7500].end |
18348.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7500].text |
我們真的很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[7501].start |
18348.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7501].end |
18350.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7501].text |
維持教育的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[7502].start |
18350.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7502].end |
18352.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7502].text |
我們要大方大聲的來說出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7503].start |
18352.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7503].end |
18354.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7503].text |
事實的真相 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].start |
18354.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].end |
18356.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].text |
我們辛苦了,一起加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].start |
18356.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].end |
18358.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].start |
18361.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].end |
18363.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].text |
好,請坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].start |
18369.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].end |
18371.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].text |
下一位許宗信委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].start |
18372.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].end |
18374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].text |
辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].start |
18380.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].end |
18382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].text |
有請政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].start |
18382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].end |
18384.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].text |
有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].start |
18388.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].end |
18390.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].start |
18389.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].end |
18391.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].text |
我們回家了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].start |
18390.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].end |
18392.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].text |
你辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].start |
18391.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].end |
18393.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].text |
阿美 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].start |
18396.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].end |
18398.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].text |
每日學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].start |
18400.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].end |
18402.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].text |
您非常辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].start |
18402.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].end |
18404.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].text |
我現在第三次進本院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].start |
18404.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].end |
18406.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].text |
委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].start |
18406.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].end |
18408.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].text |
那麼我第二次來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].start |
18408.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].end |
18410.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].text |
聽到委員講到政客 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].start |
18412.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].end |
18414.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].text |
我嚇一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].start |
18413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].end |
18415.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].text |
實在罵我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].start |
18415.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].end |
18417.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].text |
後來不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].start |
18417.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].end |
18419.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].text |
那我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].start |
18418.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].end |
18420.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].text |
也聽到委員講到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].start |
18420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].end |
18422.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].text |
鎖死是最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].start |
18423.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].end |
18425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].text |
我們教育就是最重鎖死的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].start |
18426.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].end |
18428.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].text |
所以我今天請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].start |
18431.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].end |
18433.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].text |
我外部委員,我還跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].start |
18433.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].end |
18435.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].text |
交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].start |
18435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].end |
18437.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].text |
才有辦法來跟各位現在質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].start |
18440.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].end |
18442.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].text |
這個便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].start |
18446.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].end |
18448.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].text |
這是我的早餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].start |
18448.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].end |
18450.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].text |
各位我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].start |
18449.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].end |
18451.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].text |
來這裡登記以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].start |
18451.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].end |
18455.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].text |
去參加我們行政院聘請了五個聯合國的人權的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].start |
18455.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].end |
18457.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].text |
必須要講英文的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].start |
18457.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].end |
18459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].text |
看我們台灣對婦女有沒有平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].start |
18459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].end |
18461.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].text |
所以我是必要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].start |
18463.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].end |
18465.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].text |
那麼我回來以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].start |
18465.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].end |
18467.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].text |
那麼在這裡我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].start |
18467.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].end |
18469.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].text |
我們委員會執行一職研會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].start |
18469.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].end |
18471.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].text |
我跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].start |
18471.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].end |
18473.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].text |
部長束褲 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].start |
18472.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].end |
18474.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].text |
我兩點還要在黨部去開 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].start |
18475.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].end |
18477.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].text |
我們國內住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].start |
18478.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].end |
18480.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].text |
年輕人住屋的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].start |
18480.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].end |
18482.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].text |
所以我一估這個便當我大概五點才吃得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].start |
18485.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].end |
18487.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].text |
所以我們以秀你 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].start |
18488.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].end |
18490.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].text |
台灣的他們的便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].start |
18490.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].end |
18492.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].text |
秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].start |
18493.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].end |
18495.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].text |
所以我們大家都為了台灣很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].start |
18496.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].end |
18498.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].text |
我為什麼這麼堅決今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].start |
18498.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].end |
18500.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].text |
即使黨部遲到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].start |
18500.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].end |
18502.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].text |
也要來跟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].start |
18502.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].end |
18504.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].text |
請教這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].start |
18504.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].end |
18506.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].text |
您對我們這個問題有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].start |
18507.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].end |
18509.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].text |
我們都仰賴 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].start |
18509.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].end |
18511.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].text |
下午員食材登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].start |
18512.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].end |
18514.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].text |
部長您對他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].start |
18514.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].end |
18516.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].text |
的效用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].start |
18516.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].end |
18518.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].text |
您有信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].start |
18519.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].end |
18521.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].text |
我對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].start |
18522.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].end |
18524.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].text |
我想我們在整個這樣一個平台的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].start |
18524.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].end |
18526.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].text |
的運作不是一艘一席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].start |
18526.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].end |
18528.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].text |
他當然我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].start |
18528.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].end |
18530.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].text |
有整合機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].start |
18530.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].end |
18532.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].text |
剛才署長也跟其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].start |
18532.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].end |
18534.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].text |
做報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].start |
18534.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].end |
18536.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].text |
我們基本上是利益良善 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].start |
18536.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].end |
18538.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].text |
而且大部分我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].start |
18538.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].end |
18540.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].text |
我們相信大部分人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].start |
18540.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].end |
18542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].text |
是遵守規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].start |
18542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].end |
18544.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].text |
的確有改善的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].start |
18544.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].end |
18546.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].text |
當我們食藥署7月1號 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].start |
18548.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].end |
18550.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].text |
針對問題有品的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].start |
18551.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].end |
18553.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].text |
我們這個平台調查出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].start |
18554.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].end |
18556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].text |
台中以北 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].start |
18556.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].end |
18558.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].text |
才有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].start |
18557.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].end |
18559.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].text |
那麼台中以南 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].start |
18559.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].end |
18561.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].text |
沒有發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].start |
18561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].end |
18563.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].start |
18562.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].end |
18564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].start |
18564.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].end |
18566.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].text |
17個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].start |
18566.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].end |
18568.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].text |
沒有調查出問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].start |
18568.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].end |
18570.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].text |
我看了非常高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].start |
18570.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].end |
18572.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].text |
公佈的品項是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].start |
18572.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].end |
18574.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].text |
有關聯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].start |
18574.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].end |
18576.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].text |
當我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].start |
18576.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].end |
18578.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].text |
7月9號食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].start |
18578.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].end |
18580.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].text |
針對產品跟業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].start |
18581.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].end |
18583.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].text |
這個時候我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].start |
18582.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].end |
18584.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].text |
比對出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].start |
18584.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].end |
18586.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].text |
就有360加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].start |
18586.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].end |
18588.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].text |
業者440項產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].start |
18588.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].end |
18590.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].text |
有問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].start |
18590.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].end |
18592.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].text |
所以疑似 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].start |
18592.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].end |
18594.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].text |
涉及20縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].start |
18594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].end |
18596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].text |
總共1195 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].start |
18596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].end |
18598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].text |
校跟員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].start |
18598.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].end |
18600.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].text |
這個數字都是您的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].start |
18600.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].end |
18602.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].text |
那表示你們的登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].start |
18602.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].end |
18604.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].text |
第三波 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].start |
18604.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].end |
18606.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].text |
食藥署公佈以後是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].start |
18606.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].end |
18608.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].text |
你們的登錄平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].start |
18608.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].end |
18610.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].text |
主要是針對業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].start |
18610.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].end |
18612.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].text |
跟產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].start |
18612.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].end |
18614.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].text |
有品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].start |
18614.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].end |
18616.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].text |
請問部長這個是什麼油做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].start |
18619.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].end |
18621.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].text |
橄欖油豬油 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].start |
18622.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].end |
18624.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].text |
油 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].start |
18624.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].end |
18626.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].text |
業者如果沒有主動去登錄沙通 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].start |
18626.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].end |
18628.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].text |
用什麼油 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].start |
18628.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].end |
18630.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].text |
你們根據這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].start |
18630.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].end |
18632.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].text |
是查不出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].start |
18632.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].end |
18634.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].text |
所以才會有第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].start |
18634.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].end |
18636.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].text |
17縣市沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].start |
18637.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].end |
18639.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].text |
20縣市疑似有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].start |
18640.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].end |
18642.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].text |
所以問題就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].start |
18642.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].end |
18644.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].text |
這就是我們要改進這個平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].start |
18645.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].end |
18647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].text |
確保學生安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].start |
18647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].end |
18649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].text |
食品安全最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].start |
18649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].end |
18651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].text |
要改進的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].start |
18651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].end |
18653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].text |
因為我們這個平台是針對食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].start |
18654.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].end |
18656.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].text |
不是針對產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].start |
18656.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].end |
18658.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].text |
牛是食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].start |
18658.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].end |
18660.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].text |
大米是食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].start |
18660.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].end |
18662.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].text |
那我們針對產品去登錄的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].start |
18664.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].end |
18666.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].text |
你就忽視了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].start |
18666.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].end |
18668.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].text |
它裡面重要的油品等等這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].start |
18669.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].end |
18671.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].text |
所以我們教育部在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].start |
18671.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].end |
18673.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].text |
是否需要進一步就這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].start |
18673.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].end |
18675.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].text |
再改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].start |
18674.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].end |
18676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].start |
18676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].end |
18678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].text |
我想這個學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].start |
18678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].end |
18680.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].text |
食安問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].start |
18680.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].end |
18682.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].text |
是不容這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].start |
18682.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].end |
18684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].text |
打折的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].start |
18684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].end |
18686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].text |
也跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].start |
18686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].end |
18688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].text |
第一批這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].start |
18688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].end |
18690.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].text |
食藥組公布它主要就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].start |
18690.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].end |
18692.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].text |
上品生產的製造來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].start |
18692.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].end |
18694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].text |
三家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].start |
18694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].end |
18696.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].text |
那後來它有相關的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].start |
18696.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].end |
18698.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].text |
這一個部分才會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].start |
18698.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].end |
18700.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].text |
有更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].start |
18700.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].end |
18702.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].text |
做這樣一個補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].start |
18702.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].end |
18704.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].text |
我想是有價值的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].start |
18704.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].end |
18706.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].text |
就是說以後到底它 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].start |
18706.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].end |
18708.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].text |
實際米、油這怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].start |
18708.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].end |
18710.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].text |
確保資訊能夠更精準的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].start |
18710.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].end |
18712.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].text |
掌握我想我們在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].start |
18712.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].end |
18714.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].text |
系統上來做一個更精準的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].start |
18714.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].end |
18716.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].text |
把握 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].start |
18716.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].end |
18718.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].text |
謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].start |
18719.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].end |
18721.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].start |
18720.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].end |
18722.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].text |
辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].start |
18721.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].end |
18723.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].text |
謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].start |
18728 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].end |
18730 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].text |
下一位有請吳沛憶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].start |
18736.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].end |
18738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].text |
謝謝主席有請教育部政醫藥部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].start |
18738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].end |
18740.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].text |
有請政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].start |
18740.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].end |
18742.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].start |
18745.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].end |
18747.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].start |
18775.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].end |
18777.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].start |
18805.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].end |
18807.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].start |
18835.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].end |
18837.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].start |
18865.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].end |
18867.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].start |
18867.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].end |
18869.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].start |
18869.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].end |
18871.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].start |
18871.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].end |
18873.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].start |
18873.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].end |
18875.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].start |
18875.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].end |
18877.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].start |
18877.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].end |
18879.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].start |
18879.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].end |
18881.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].start |
18881.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].end |
18883.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].start |
18883.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].end |
18885.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].start |
18885.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].end |
18887.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].start |
18887.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].end |
18889.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].start |
18889.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].end |
18891.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].start |
18891.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].end |
18893.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].start |
18893.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].end |
18895.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].start |
18895.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].end |
18909.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].start |
18909.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].end |
18911.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].start |
18911.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].end |
18913.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].start |
18913.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].end |
18915.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].start |
18915.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].end |
18917.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].start |
18917.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].end |
18919.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].start |
18919.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].end |
18921.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].text |
這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].start |
18921.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].end |
18924.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].text |
但是有 從我剛才跟其他委員報告的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].start |
18924.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].end |
18928.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].text |
有部分的 包含昨天 像今天還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].start |
18928.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].end |
18931.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].text |
停止上班上課的我們擔心 那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].start |
18931.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].end |
18934.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].text |
比如說以我去看的 六規 高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].start |
18934.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].end |
18936.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].text |
那學生基本上都出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].start |
18936.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].end |
18938.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].text |
只有一位我們當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].start |
18938.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].end |
18941.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].text |
昨天下午再去看的時候 就變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].start |
18941.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].end |
18944.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].text |
他已經在路上也回報 他是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].start |
18944.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].end |
18947.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].text |
所以今天可以如期的參加考試 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].start |
18947.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].end |
18950.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].text |
所以這裡邊所有的 包含學生提早出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].start |
18950.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].end |
18953.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].text |
他的交通跟住宿所有造成的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].start |
18953.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].end |
18957.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].text |
外加的這些的成本 大概我們召聯會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].start |
18957.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].end |
18959.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].text |
這個大考中心都會吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].start |
18959.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].end |
18962.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].text |
對 這個部分就是特別要跟教育部確認的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].start |
18962.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].end |
18966.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].text |
因為雖然風災造成的 受施的災害不大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].start |
18966.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].end |
18969.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].text |
但是因為延期 所以像很多人事的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].start |
18969.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].end |
18972.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].text |
我看現場很多 除了我們大考中心工作人員之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].start |
18972.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].end |
18975.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].text |
像監考人員很多也是我們一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].start |
18975.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].end |
18977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].text |
這個當然要謝謝他們幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].start |
18977.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].end |
18980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].text |
相關的費用 所以這個不是由個別學校來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].start |
18980.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].end |
18981.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].text |
沒有 沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].start |
18981.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].end |
18984.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].text |
不是由大考中心來前面吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].start |
18984.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].end |
18987.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].text |
好 這個就是要拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].start |
18987.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].end |
18989.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].text |
那接下來呢 也是大家很關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].start |
18989.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].end |
18992.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].text |
有品在校園裡面的安全的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].start |
18992.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].end |
18995.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].text |
因為教育部你們盤點出來給我們的數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].start |
18995.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].end |
18998.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].text |
20個縣市裡面 有受到影響的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].start |
18998.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].end |
19001.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].text |
高中以下的學校是861所 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].start |
19001.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].end |
19003.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].text |
那幼兒園334所 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].start |
19003.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].end |
19005.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].text |
以高中以下的這個學校來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].start |
19005.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].end |
19008.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].text |
這個佔了是22% 其實超過1% |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].start |
19008.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].end |
19011.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].text |
幼兒園也佔了5%是有受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].start |
19011.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].end |
19014.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].text |
就是說他們的食材裡面 有用到相關的油品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].start |
19014.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].end |
19016.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].text |
有1億的油品 這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].start |
19016.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].end |
19018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].text |
1%我覺得其實數字相當的高啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].start |
19018.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].end |
19020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].text |
所以大家當然是很關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].start |
19020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].end |
19022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].text |
教育部做了哪些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].start |
19022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].end |
19026.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].text |
你們說你們透過這個食材登錄的平台去比對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].start |
19026.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].end |
19029.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].text |
然後已經都進行預防性的下架了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].start |
19029.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].end |
19031.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].text |
這部分所謂的快速比對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].start |
19031.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].end |
19034.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].text |
你們是怎麼處理這個過程 流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].start |
19034.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].end |
19038.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].text |
是 這個處理的平台的快速比對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].start |
19038.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].end |
19040.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].start |
19040.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].end |
19042.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].text |
第一個就是我們一收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].start |
19042.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].end |
19045.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].text |
像譬如說7月1號我們一收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].start |
19045.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].end |
19050.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].text |
我們就用中聯 福茂 福壽 泰山 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].start |
19050.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].end |
19051.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].text |
還有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].start |
19052.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].end |
19054.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].text |
沙拉油 這些關鍵字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].start |
19054.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].end |
19056.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].text |
就直接不是只有品牌名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].start |
19056.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].end |
19058.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].text |
我們連油的名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].start |
19058.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].end |
19062.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].text |
也直接用關鍵字來擴大模糊收集 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].start |
19062.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].end |
19065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].text |
那一收集出來是1385項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].start |
19065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].end |
19070.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].text |
這1385項立即就跟有關線是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].start |
19070.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].end |
19073.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].text |
發送之後他們去查批號 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].start |
19073.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].end |
19077.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].text |
查批號是不是衛福部所公佈的那一天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].start |
19077.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].end |
19079.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].text |
那一個油品的批號 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].start |
19079.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].end |
19082.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].text |
類似這樣 我們查證的過程是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].start |
19082.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].end |
19085.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].text |
那個是第一層油 那四家中聯等三家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].start |
19085.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].end |
19089.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].text |
接著到7月5號 6號開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].start |
19089.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].end |
19091.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].text |
有下一層的商家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].start |
19091.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].end |
19093.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].text |
譬如說360家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].start |
19093.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].end |
19096.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].text |
原來講230年花了360 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].start |
19096.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].end |
19099.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].text |
360行政院覺得這個還不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].start |
19101.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].end |
19102.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].text |
用到他的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].start |
19102.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].end |
19105.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].text |
所以後來有232個產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].start |
19105.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].end |
19107.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].text |
或是401個產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].start |
19107.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].end |
19109.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].text |
以及440個產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].start |
19109.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].end |
19111.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].text |
我們就用那個產品就去去去撈 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].start |
19111.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].end |
19115.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].text |
就變成了剛剛講的這個數字 1195項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].start |
19116.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].end |
19120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].text |
所以這個也是剛好可以跟剛才許委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].start |
19120.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].end |
19122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].text |
第一次那個165 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].start |
19122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].end |
19124.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].text |
或是後來的228 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].start |
19124.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].end |
19128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].text |
是指那四家油品直接去搜尋 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].start |
19128.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].end |
19131.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].text |
那後來是就第二層的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].start |
19131.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].end |
19134.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].text |
他可能某個公司譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].start |
19134.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].end |
19136.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].start |
19136.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].end |
19140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].text |
有一家咖啡店他去買到了這個油 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].start |
19140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].end |
19143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].text |
那這個油他去可能做了什麼的那個什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].start |
19143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].end |
19145.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].text |
我們又去擴大去搜集 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].start |
19145.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].end |
19146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].text |
大概是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].start |
19146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].end |
19148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].text |
這個部分就是要拜託你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].start |
19148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].end |
19151.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].text |
因為現在我們全國也是進行的是預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].start |
19151.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].end |
19154.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].text |
也就是他產期生產在4到6月的 |
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不管你批次了 |
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我們也預防性就是說我們怕有漏掉 |
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怕說還沒有查出來結果之後查出來 |
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所以都先下架 |
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所以拜託你們務必密切的 |
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密切的跟地方政府保持聯繫 |
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19167.61 |
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第二個我們要滾動式的 |
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19167.61 |
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他為服務這裡發布到什麼程度 |
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我們都要提前預先的來做 |
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那再來除了這個停損以外 |
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就後續的 |
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19180.61 |
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大家在討論的是這個接下來的團體訴訟的球場 |
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19180.61 |
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因為這學生孩子 |
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因為現在剛好放暑假 |
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19187.61 |
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但是孩子倘若有吃到這樣的這個午餐 |
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19187.61 |
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他是受害者 |
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19191.61 |
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但這個油品不是孩子或家長去賣的 |
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所以目前在這個團體訴訟 |
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未來要球場的話 |
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19197.61 |
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我們教育部怎麼來協助呢 |
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這個跟委員報告 |
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關於球場這個部分 |
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因為受害者 |
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真的講如果是受害者的話 |
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絕對不是團散業者 |
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也不是學校 |
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而是學校的員工跟學生 |
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教職員工跟學生 |
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所以團體訴訟將來 |
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19219.78 |
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我們為請兩個優良消保團體進行團體訴訟的時候 |
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19219.78 |
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就會以這些受害的學生跟教職員工 |
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19225.78 |
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為所謂的請求權讓有的對象 |
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那由消保團體來進行後續的團體訴訟 |
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19230.78 |
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我看到7月9號就是上禮拜四 |
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我們有跟消保團體和衛福部 |
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有一起開了一個會 |
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所以你們是有特別註記說 |
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這個是含受害者 |
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就含學生跟教職員工 |
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那我今天就是特別想要來 |
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拜託教育部再去研擬 |
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19246.78 |
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因為2013年當時我們台北 |
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有一個舊案 |
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富衛鄉混油案 |
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當時這個地方政府 |
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他是由教育局 |
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19255.78 |
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然後連同學校 |
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因為他的採購人也是學校 |
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學校也是可能是採購方 |
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學校也可能成為訴訟的主體 |
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19264.78 |
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來進行團體訴訟 |
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19264.78 |
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19267.78 |
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是不是也有這一個軌或這一個方式 |
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請教育部去把這些過去的案例 |
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把它找出來 |
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19273.78 |
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因為其實我看是有相關案例的 |
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19275.78 |
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就是說因為你走消保的話 |
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19278.78 |
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你是說這個教職員或學生 |
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19280.78 |
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我們一起來團體訴訟 |
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19280.78 |
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19282.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].text |
但今天如果訴訟的主體是學校 |
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19282.78 |
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19284.78 |
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這可能在處理這個程序上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].start |
19284.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].end |
19285.78 |
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對家長來講 |
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19285.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].end |
19287.78 |
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其實可能會更方便一些 |
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19287.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].end |
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這個請你們去看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].start |
19288.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].end |
19290.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].text |
過去倘若有案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].start |
19290.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].end |
19291.78 |
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是怎麼樣再進行的 |
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19291.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].end |
19293.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].text |
盡量來協助這個權益的 |
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19293.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].end |
19295.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].text |
這個救濟跟保障 |
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19295.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].end |
19296.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].text |
好那我還有一點時間 |
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19296.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].end |
19299.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].text |
是我一定要跟這個部長來關切 |
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19299.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].end |
19300.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].text |
兩個議題我很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].start |
19300.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].end |
19301.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].text |
第一個是 |
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19301.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].end |
19303.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].text |
上次我們在這裡有質詢討論過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].start |
19303.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].end |
19305.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].text |
有關於這個委員有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].start |
19305.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].end |
19307.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].text |
要把國教來向下延伸 |
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19307.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].end |
19309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].text |
也就是五歲兒童 |
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19309.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].end |
19312.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].text |
要強迫入學幼兒園的這個提案 |
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19312.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].end |
19314.78 |
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那因為當時我就很擔心 |
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19314.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].end |
19317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].text |
說教授未來這會變成是大班要強迫入學 |
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19317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].end |
19320.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].text |
那在強迫入學上面學區的分發 |
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19320.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].end |
19322.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].text |
後續的作業要怎麼樣去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].start |
19322.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].end |
19324.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].text |
地方政府有沒有這個量能來承接 |
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19324.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].end |
19326.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].text |
以及我們現在的制度是否來得及 |
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19326.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].end |
19327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].text |
修改跟配套 |
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19327.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].end |
19329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].text |
所以當時我要求教育部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].start |
19329.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].end |
19333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].text |
你們一定務必要去跟地方政府的教育局處 |
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19333.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].end |
19334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].text |
來去開會討論 |
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19334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].end |
19336.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].text |
了解他們實務上的狀況 |
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19336.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].end |
19337.78 |
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你們有沒有去了解了 |
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19339.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].end |
19341.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].text |
確實我們上個禮拜二禮拜三的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].start |
19341.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].end |
19343.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].text |
全國教育局處所長會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].start |
19343.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].end |
19345.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].text |
這一個也是一個議題 |
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19345.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].end |
19347.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].text |
那地方也認為說 |
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19347.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].end |
19350.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].text |
在此時因為他有強迫性 |
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19350.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].end |
19353.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].text |
還有連動到我們所有的公司幼兒園 |
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19353.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].end |
19356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].text |
包含學校的扣車 |
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19356.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].end |
19358.13 |
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那是哪些縣市的教育局有來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7868].end |
19361.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].text |
是全國的嗎還是分區的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7869].end |
19363.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].text |
全國的地方縣市教育局 |
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19363.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].end |
19364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].text |
那當然這其中有 |
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19364.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].end |
19368.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].text |
因為基隆市他的處長 |
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19368.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].end |
19371.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].text |
因為這個額念的事件他請辭 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7873].end |
19373.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].text |
所以是派科長來 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7874].end |
19374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].text |
就是說其他的基本 |
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19374.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].end |
19375.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].text |
那他們表達的意見 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7876].end |
19379.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].text |
基本上就是說大家希望能夠評價幼兒園 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7877].end |
19381.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].text |
的這樣一個政策應該繼續推 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].start |
19381.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].end |
19385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].text |
因為它涉及到我們如果當國民教育向下延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].start |
19385.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].end |
19386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].text |
它有強迫性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].start |
19386.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].end |
19388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].text |
那我們學校的一個教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].start |
19388.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].end |
19391.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].text |
空間、師資、課程、教材都要有另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].start |
19391.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].end |
19393.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].text |
那會不會也因為這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].start |
19393.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].end |
19397.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].text |
衝擊到既有的私立的幼兒園等等的整體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].start |
19397.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].end |
19400.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].text |
大家的一個看法還是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].start |
19400.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].end |
19405.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].text |
我們還是先把現在對年輕人的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].start |
19405.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].end |
19408.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].text |
能夠向課後的延拖、寒暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].start |
19408.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].end |
19411.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].text |
然後這裡邊把它落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].start |
19411.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].end |
19413.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].text |
包含區域上的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].start |
19413.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].end |
19416.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].text |
這個幼托的這些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].start |
19416.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].end |
19418.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].text |
能夠讓它真正能夠到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].start |
19418.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].end |
19419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].text |
我想這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].start |
19419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].end |
19423.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].text |
我們大概那一天的一個會議結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].start |
19423.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].end |
19426.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].text |
所以地方政府對於國教向下延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].start |
19426.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].end |
19430.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].text |
五歲強迫入選是還有一些不同的意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].start |
19430.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].end |
19432.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].text |
這部分第一個是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].start |
19432.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].end |
19436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].text |
你們這個會議紀錄可不可以提供給我們委員會來參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].start |
19436.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].end |
19438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].text |
那我還是要拜託啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].start |
19438.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].end |
19440.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].text |
就是說在立法院修法以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].start |
19440.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].end |
19442.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].text |
請你們一定要跟地方政府多溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].start |
19442.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].end |
19444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].text |
也要去尊重地方的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].start |
19444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].end |
19447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].text |
那最後一點是因為今天的議程裡面排成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].start |
19447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].end |
19450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].text |
也是有關校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].start |
19450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].end |
19453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].text |
這個過去的這個教育部的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].start |
19453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].end |
19454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].text |
本來是被查 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].start |
19454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].end |
19457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].text |
我們委員會把它改成審查案今天要來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].start |
19457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].end |
19460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].text |
這個部分其實上次質詢我有提醒過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].start |
19460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].end |
19463.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].text |
因為我覺得還是要去釐清它在議事上面的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].start |
19463.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].end |
19467.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].text |
因為根據我們立法院職權刑事法第62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].start |
19467.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].end |
19469.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].text |
因為它是行政命令嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].start |
19469.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].end |
19471.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].text |
這個審查後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].start |
19471.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].end |
19474.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].text |
這個我們立法院是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].start |
19474.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].end |
19481.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].text |
只能決議、只能通知原定班知機關更正或者廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].start |
19481.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].end |
19482.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].start |
19482.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].end |
19484.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].text |
我們只能退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].start |
19484.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].end |
19486.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].text |
如果要更正也是原定機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].start |
19486.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].end |
19488.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].text |
今天也就是教育部你們要去更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].start |
19488.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].end |
19490.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].text |
我們沒有辦法像修法律律一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].start |
19490.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].end |
19492.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].text |
在這裡直接來去進行內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].start |
19492.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].end |
19495.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].text |
跟文字上面的修改跟修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].start |
19495.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].end |
19498.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].text |
所以說今天如果我們對於這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].start |
19498.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].end |
19501.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].text |
它是解拼辦法的這個修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].start |
19501.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].end |
19503.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].text |
我們今天在審的是修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].start |
19503.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].end |
19507.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].text |
如果說委員會把它退回的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].start |
19507.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].end |
19511.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].text |
那麼接下來這個解拼辦法會使用的是哪一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].start |
19511.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].end |
19514.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].text |
會變成是修正以前的舊制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].start |
19515.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].end |
19518.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].text |
如果我們把你們的解拼辦法的修正版退回以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].start |
19518.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].end |
19520.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].text |
那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].start |
19521.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].end |
19524.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].text |
這個解拼辦法是用哪一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].start |
19524.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].end |
19525.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].text |
是不是請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].start |
19525.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].end |
19527.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].text |
這個因為也有老師來問我這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].start |
19527.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].end |
19529.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].text |
我覺得還是要把它釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].start |
19529.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].end |
19530.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].text |
提供委員參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].start |
19530.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].end |
19533.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].text |
因為這個解釋的權責應該不是在教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].start |
19533.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].end |
19537.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].text |
但是這兩個月內我們要更正或廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].start |
19537.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].end |
19540.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].text |
那因為這一次的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].start |
19540.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].end |
19545.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].text |
僅限於115年1月份的這個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].start |
19545.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].end |
19547.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].text |
所以它內容是有限縮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].start |
19547.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].end |
19548.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].start |
19548.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].end |
19552.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].text |
依照教師法29條所授權的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].start |
19552.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].end |
19553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].text |
做修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].start |
19553.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].end |
19555.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].text |
然後之前的校事會議等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].start |
19555.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].end |
19558.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].text |
這個因為我們之前都有進行過這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].start |
19558.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].end |
19561.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].text |
法規命令的一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].start |
19561.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].end |
19564.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].text |
所以那個部分是沒辦法做修正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].start |
19564.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].end |
19565.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].text |
好這沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].start |
19565.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].end |
19567.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].text |
因為我們等一下還會進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].start |
19567.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].end |
19568.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].text |
只是說我這拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].start |
19568.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].end |
19570.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].text |
這個你們不是解釋單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].start |
19570.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].end |
19572.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].text |
但是你們是未來執行單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].start |
19572.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].end |
19575.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].text |
就現場發生的問題還是我們教育部來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].start |
19575.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].end |
19576.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].text |
所以我會比較擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].start |
19576.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].end |
19577.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].text |
為什麼擔心這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].start |
19577.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].end |
19580.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].text |
因為我們現在心智至少有幾個我覺得很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].start |
19580.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].end |
19581.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].text |
比如說我們不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].start |
19581.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].end |
19583.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].text |
就是我們不接受匿名檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].start |
19583.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].end |
19585.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].text |
有關於這個霸凌案件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].start |
19585.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].end |
19586.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].text |
然後我們要把它分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].start |
19586.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].end |
19587.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].text |
然後去篩選 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].start |
19587.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].end |
19589.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].text |
然後我們要有輔助人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].start |
19589.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].end |
19591.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].text |
假設現在我好不容易有這個心智 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].start |
19591.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].end |
19592.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].text |
當然心智一定要精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].start |
19592.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].end |
19594.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].text |
我也要求你們要去精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].start |
19594.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].end |
19595.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].text |
比如說未來要法律協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].start |
19595.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].end |
19597.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].text |
心理諮商輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].start |
19597.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].end |
19599.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].text |
這個專業協助給老師等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].start |
19599.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].end |
19601.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].text |
可是假設你這個心智被退回了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].start |
19601.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].end |
19602.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].text |
要改到舊版 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].start |
19602.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].end |
19604.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].text |
馬上要開始來匿名檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].start |
19604.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].end |
19605.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].text |
這個整個倒行逆施 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].start |
19605.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].end |
19606.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].text |
我會很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].start |
19606.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].end |
19608.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].text |
所以等一下務必要把它釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].start |
19608.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].end |
19609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].start |
19609.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].end |
19610.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].text |
謝謝議長 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].start |
19618.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].end |
19620.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].text |
宗家兵宗家兵宗家兵 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].start |
19621.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].end |
19623.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].text |
接下來有請洪孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].start |
19625.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].end |
19626.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].start |
19628.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].end |
19629.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].start |
19629.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].end |
19631.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].text |
不好意思 先請問一下洪孟凱委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].start |
19631.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].end |
19634.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].text |
有要請食安辦主任說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].start |
19634.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].end |
19635.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].text |
沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].start |
19635.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].end |
19636.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].text |
因為他還有院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].start |
19636.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].end |
19637.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].text |
要先讓你來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].start |
19637.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].end |
19638.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].text |
沒問題 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].start |
19638.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].end |
19639.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].start |
19640.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].end |
19641.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].text |
OK |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].start |
19644.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].end |
19648.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].text |
好 那請部長跟衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].start |
19649.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].end |
19650.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].text |
次長是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].start |
19650.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].end |
19652.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].text |
請林靜怡政務次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].start |
19652.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].end |
19655.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].text |
然後跟我們教育部政部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].start |
19658.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].end |
19660.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].text |
好 我先請教一下次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].start |
19660.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].end |
19661.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].text |
衛福部的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].start |
19661.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].end |
19662.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].text |
我們現在看到是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].start |
19662.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].end |
19663.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].text |
這兩天又爆發是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].start |
19663.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].end |
19665.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].text |
到底中聯4月到6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].start |
19665.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].end |
19667.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].text |
生產多少噸的食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].start |
19667.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].end |
19668.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].text |
我們有沒有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].start |
19668.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].end |
19671.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].text |
有 中聯我們總共29個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].start |
19671.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].end |
19675.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].text |
那它每一個槽是1300噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].start |
19675.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].end |
19678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].text |
所以全部目前是預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].start |
19678.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].end |
19681.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].text |
那整個如果是全部算起來的話是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].start |
19683.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].end |
19685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].text |
57萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].start |
19685.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].end |
19686.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].text |
2.7萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].start |
19686.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].end |
19687.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].text |
2.7萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].start |
19687.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].end |
19688.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].text |
2.7萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].start |
19688.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].end |
19690.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].text |
2.7萬噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].start |
19690.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].end |
19693.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].text |
2萬7千5百32.7公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].start |
19695.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].end |
19696.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].start |
19696.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].end |
19698.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].text |
這幾個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].start |
19698.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].end |
19699.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].text |
4月到6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].start |
19699.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].end |
19700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].text |
29個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].start |
19700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].end |
19701.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].text |
29個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].start |
19701.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].end |
19703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].text |
那我們看到新聞有報導是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].start |
19703.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].end |
19706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].text |
昨天石崇良部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].start |
19706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].end |
19708.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].text |
還講是說現在是預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].start |
19708.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].end |
19709.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].text |
13個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].start |
19709.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].end |
19711.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].text |
所以到底是現在預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].start |
19711.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].end |
19712.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].text |
13個批次還是29個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].start |
19712.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].end |
19714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].text |
我們29個批次裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].start |
19714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].end |
19715.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].text |
目前都請他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].start |
19715.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].end |
19718.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].text |
目前這29個批次全部都是預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].start |
19718.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].end |
19720.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].text |
那其中到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].start |
19720.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].end |
19723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].text |
有查到有問題的是5個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].start |
19723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].end |
19724.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].text |
5個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].start |
19724.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].end |
19729.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].text |
所以其實從一開始的1個批次2個批次到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].start |
19730.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].end |
19733.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].text |
5個批次未來會不會再增加不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].start |
19733.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].end |
19737.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].text |
但是現在所影響的食用油致癌的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].start |
19737.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].end |
19740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].text |
已經高達了不是1300噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].start |
19740.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].end |
19742.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].text |
是現在有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].start |
19742.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].end |
19745.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].text |
我們以最壞打算的話可能2萬多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].start |
19745.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].end |
19749.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].text |
那現在你現在幾個批次是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].start |
19749.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].end |
19750.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].text |
目前5個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].start |
19750.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].end |
19752.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].text |
那5個批次總量多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].start |
19752.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].end |
19755.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].text |
1桶是1萬1300 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].start |
19755.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].end |
19759.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].text |
所以現在這5個批次是5756.7公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].start |
19759.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].end |
19761.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].text |
所以至少現在食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].start |
19761.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].end |
19764.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].text |
衛福部確認的5000多公噸是有問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].start |
19764.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].end |
19767.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].text |
對這5000多公噸是必須下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].start |
19767.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].end |
19768.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].start |
19768.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].end |
19771.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].text |
市長那我請教到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].start |
19771.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].end |
19772.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].text |
源頭知道了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].start |
19772.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].end |
19773.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].text |
中聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].start |
19773.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].end |
19776.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].text |
對中聯為什麼會產生致癌油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].start |
19776.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].end |
19777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].text |
致呈的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].start |
19777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].end |
19778.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].text |
致呈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].start |
19778.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].end |
19780.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].text |
對他在致呈或呈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].start |
19780.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].end |
19783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].text |
目前在我們當然這個部分還會在後續再跟專家討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].start |
19783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].end |
19785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].text |
不過6月30收到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].start |
19785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].end |
19787.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].text |
目前為止我們看到媒體也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].start |
19787.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].end |
19789.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].text |
或說你們相關的食藥署的報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].start |
19789.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].end |
19793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].text |
都沒有講到說到底是源頭運輸致呈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].start |
19793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].end |
19795.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].text |
還是哪一個環節出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].start |
19795.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].end |
19798.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].text |
目前在6月30收到通知之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].start |
19798.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].end |
19801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].text |
我們在7月份跟專家的會議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].start |
19801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].end |
19804.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].text |
目前認為是他們在整個致呈過程中的品管 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].start |
19804.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].end |
19805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].start |
19807 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].end |
19808 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].text |
所以品管的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].start |
19808 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].end |
19809 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].start |
19809.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].end |
19811.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].text |
目前認為是品管就是不符合HHCP |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].start |
19811.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].end |
19813.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].text |
那這個過程裡面他有好幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].start |
19813.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].end |
19815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].text |
我們其實在品管上必須要設立的節點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].start |
19815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].end |
19817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].text |
那中聯這邊並沒有得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].start |
19817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].end |
19819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].text |
並沒有達到一定的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].start |
19819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].end |
19820.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].text |
好所以市長這樣很明顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].start |
19820.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].end |
19822.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].text |
這件事情是徹底的人禍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].start |
19824.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].end |
19826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].text |
因為品管如果說出了問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].start |
19826.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].end |
19827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].text |
然後還有檢驗沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].start |
19827.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].end |
19829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].text |
檢驗如果說他又知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].start |
19829.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].end |
19830.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].text |
然後他又造假 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].start |
19830.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].end |
19831.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].text |
這個相關的數據的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].start |
19831.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].end |
19832.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].text |
這是徹底的人禍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].start |
19832.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].end |
19833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].text |
是造假這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].start |
19833.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].end |
19835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].text |
目前就是讓檢調來做調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].start |
19835.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].end |
19837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].text |
是所以說我們現在要釐清的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].start |
19837.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].end |
19839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].text |
到底我們影響有多廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].start |
19839.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].end |
19840.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].text |
我們現在可以釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].start |
19840.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].end |
19842.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].text |
那4月以前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].start |
19843.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].end |
19844.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].text |
有沒有相關的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].start |
19844.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].end |
19845.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].text |
因為如果說你現在這樣講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].start |
19845.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].end |
19846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].text |
致呈有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].start |
19846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].end |
19847.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].text |
那我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].start |
19847.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].end |
19850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].text |
中聯他從過去到現在致呈了多少批 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].start |
19852.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].end |
19853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].text |
其實前年去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].start |
19853.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].end |
19856.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].text |
如果就您剛講致呈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].start |
19856.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].end |
19857.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].text |
我們最後一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].start |
19857.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].end |
19859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].text |
不管是地方政府或是中央部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].start |
19859.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].end |
19862.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].text |
我們去稽查中聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].start |
19862.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].end |
19863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].text |
是什麼時候的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].start |
19863.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].end |
19867.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].text |
這個部分我們其實111年到114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].start |
19867.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].end |
19869.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].text |
我們是有食藥署是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].start |
19869.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].end |
19872.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].text |
這一個實用油脂製造業稽查專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].start |
19872.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].end |
19874.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].text |
那地方縣市政府在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].start |
19874.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].end |
19876.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].text |
111年到114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].start |
19876.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].end |
19878.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].text |
所以2025年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].start |
19878.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].end |
19880.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].text |
所以中聯什麼時候被監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].start |
19880.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].end |
19882.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].text |
現在是三大系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].start |
19883.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].end |
19885.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].text |
全台灣三大系統業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].start |
19885.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].end |
19887.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].text |
如果說以實用油來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].start |
19887.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].end |
19889.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].text |
中聯算是其中之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].start |
19889.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].end |
19890.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].text |
他生產的一個實用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].start |
19890.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].end |
19892.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].text |
算是全台灣三分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].start |
19892.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].end |
19893.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].text |
那我們現在想要問的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].start |
19893.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].end |
19896.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].text |
只有4月5月6月有問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].start |
19896.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].end |
19897.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].text |
之前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].start |
19897.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].end |
19898.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].text |
如果說就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].start |
19898.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].end |
19900.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].text |
市長你剛剛告訴國人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].start |
19900.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].end |
19902.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].text |
是致呈的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].start |
19902.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].end |
19904.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].text |
那他用這樣的一個致呈方法多久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].start |
19904.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].end |
19905.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].text |
我們這樣子說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].start |
19905.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].end |
19908.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].text |
我們當然一開始會把他抓在4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].start |
19908.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].end |
19911.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].text |
是因為我們在6月30收到通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].start |
19911.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].end |
19913.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].text |
他是在4月4號的那一批 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].start |
19913.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].end |
19915.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].text |
你會抓到是因為4月4號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].start |
19915.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].end |
19916.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].text |
那也是南橋查出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].start |
19916.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].end |
19919.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].text |
南橋查出來這跟那個福壽 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].start |
19919.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].end |
19921.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].text |
福壽再往上講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].start |
19921.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].end |
19923.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].text |
所以我們拉似就是南橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].start |
19923.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].end |
19924.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].text |
他後來這樣一路找 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].start |
19924.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].end |
19926.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].text |
到6月30跟我們通報之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].start |
19926.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].end |
19927.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].text |
我們往前拉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].start |
19927.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].end |
19928.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].text |
那個是因為還有吹哨者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].start |
19928.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].end |
19930.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].text |
或是說他們這個上下游 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].start |
19930.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].end |
19931.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].text |
那不叫吹哨者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].start |
19931.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].end |
19933.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].text |
上下游廠商他們自己查出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].start |
19933.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].end |
19935.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].text |
那但是現在本席的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].start |
19935.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].end |
19936.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].text |
又更精進了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].start |
19936.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].end |
19937.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].text |
本席的問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].start |
19937.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].end |
19938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].text |
那這樣子我們食藥署 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].start |
19938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].end |
19939.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].text |
會不會能夠確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].start |
19939.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].end |
19941.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].text |
只有4月到5月6月嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].start |
19941.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].end |
19943.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].text |
那往前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].start |
19943.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].end |
19945.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].text |
他到底做假了多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].start |
19945.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].end |
19948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].text |
這個部分是不是做假 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].start |
19948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].end |
19950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].text |
他這邊做假的程度是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].start |
19950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].end |
19951.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].text |
這個部分我們現在檢調正在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].start |
19951.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].end |
19952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].text |
那我剛剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].start |
19952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].end |
19954.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].text |
111到114年的使用油脂 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].start |
19954.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].end |
19957.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].text |
這個部分專案其實查合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].start |
19957.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].end |
19958.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].text |
在當時不論是GHP |
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19958.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].end |
19960.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].text |
就是我們講的那個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].start |
19960.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].end |
19962.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].text |
我們資料裡面是204家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].start |
19962.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].end |
19964.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].text |
地方政府報上來都是合格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].start |
19965.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].end |
19966.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].text |
就是啊 所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].start |
19966.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].end |
19968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].text |
至少市長你剛剛跟我們講的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].start |
19968.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].end |
19970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].text |
從111年到114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].start |
19970.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].end |
19971.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].text |
我們的專案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].start |
19971.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].end |
19973.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].text |
那從114年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].start |
19974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].end |
19975.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].text |
是不是我們都可以合理懷疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].start |
19975.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].end |
19976.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].text |
他其實製程是有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].start |
19976.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].end |
19977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].text |
114年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].start |
19977.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].end |
19979.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].text |
現在我們在115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].start |
19979.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].end |
19981.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].text |
由地方衛生局給我們的資料裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].start |
19981.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].end |
19983.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].text |
目前都是合格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].start |
19983.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].end |
19984.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].start |
19985.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].end |
19986.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].start |
19987.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].end |
19988.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].start |
19988.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].end |
19989.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].text |
請跳一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].start |
19990.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].end |
19991.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].start |
19991.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].end |
19992.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].text |
剛剛市長也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].start |
19992.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].end |
19996.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].text |
這件事情不是只是像一開始爆發說1300噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].start |
19996.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].end |
19997.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].text |
雖然1300噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].start |
19997.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].end |
19998.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].text |
我們聽起來已經很大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].start |
19998.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].end |
19999.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].text |
很多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8163].start |
19999.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8163].end |
20002.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8163].text |
但原來現在有問題的叫做5000多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].start |
20002.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].end |
20003.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].text |
5000多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].start |
20003.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].end |
20005.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].text |
而且4月5月6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].start |
20005.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].end |
20007.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].text |
他其實生產了2萬多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8167].start |
20007.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8167].end |
20009.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8167].text |
其中現在被檢驗出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8168].start |
20009.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8168].end |
20011.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8168].text |
有5000多噸可能有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].start |
20011.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].end |
20012.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].text |
或說數據造假 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].start |
20012.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].end |
20013.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].text |
那還有多少沒有檢出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].start |
20013.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].end |
20014.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].text |
不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].start |
20015.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].end |
20017.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].text |
那我們比較focus在學童的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8173].start |
20017.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8173].end |
20018.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8173].text |
那我想請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].start |
20018.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].end |
20020.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].text |
過去就至少這三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8175].start |
20021.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8175].end |
20022.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8175].text |
5000多噸裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].start |
20022.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].end |
20024.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].text |
有流向多少是流到校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].start |
20025.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].end |
20027.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].text |
我們有沒有個數量統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].start |
20027.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].end |
20030.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].text |
跟我們報告這確實就我手邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8179].start |
20030.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8179].end |
20032.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8179].text |
我是比較不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8180].start |
20032.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8180].end |
20033.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8180].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].start |
20033.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].end |
20034.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].text |
你要告訴我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8182].start |
20034.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8182].end |
20036.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8182].text |
有多少的油品總量 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].start |
20036.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].end |
20037.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].start |
20037.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].end |
20040.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].text |
部長你不覺得這重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].start |
20040.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].end |
20041.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].text |
過去這幾個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].start |
20041.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].end |
20042.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].text |
我們有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].start |
20042.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].end |
20044.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].text |
現在衛福部告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].start |
20044.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].end |
20046.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].text |
有問題的油叫做5000多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].start |
20046.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].end |
20048.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].text |
不是一開始1300噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].start |
20048.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].end |
20049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].text |
那我們想要問的是5000多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].start |
20049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].end |
20051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].text |
有多少已經被我們的學童吃掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].start |
20051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].end |
20053.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].text |
只要食藥署公布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8193].start |
20053.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8193].end |
20055.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8193].text |
我們馬上立即就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].start |
20055.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].end |
20057.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].text |
所以你知不知道現在有5000多噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].start |
20061.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].end |
20062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].text |
現在知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].start |
20062.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].end |
20063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].start |
20063.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].end |
20064.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].text |
現在知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8198].start |
20064.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8198].end |
20067.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8198].text |
我們今天討論了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].start |
20067.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].end |
20069.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].text |
然後經過我們衛福部的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].start |
20069.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].end |
20071.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].text |
到底有沒有跟教育部跟相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].start |
20071.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].end |
20073.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].text |
來去做一個勾稽或是釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].start |
20073.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].end |
20075.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].text |
我有的這個品項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].start |
20075.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].end |
20077.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].text |
這我們就全面下校 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].start |
20077.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].end |
20079.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].text |
這一個是我跟委員保證的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].start |
20079.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].end |
20081.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].text |
那我們學童到底吃了多少不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8206].start |
20081.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8206].end |
20082.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8206].text |
是不是現在沒有這個統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].start |
20086.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].end |
20088.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].text |
怎麼了這個問題不能問嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].start |
20088.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].end |
20089.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].start |
20089.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].end |
20090.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].text |
委員我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].start |
20090.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].end |
20091.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].text |
部長這個問題不能問嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].start |
20091.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].end |
20092.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].text |
可以問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].start |
20092.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].end |
20093.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].start |
20093.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].end |
20095.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].text |
今天小孩子他吃飯吃了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].start |
20095.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].end |
20097.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].text |
他裡邊到底含油量 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].start |
20097.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].end |
20099.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].text |
對不起我不是這方面的專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].start |
20099.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].end |
20101.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].text |
所以你要去統計啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].start |
20101.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].end |
20103.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].text |
所以你應該要統計所以應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].start |
20103.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].end |
20104.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].start |
20104.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].end |
20106.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].text |
我覺得這個問題有意義耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].start |
20107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].end |
20108.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].text |
有意義在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].start |
20108.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].end |
20109.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].text |
第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].start |
20109.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].end |
20111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].text |
今天是擠牙膏式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].start |
20111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].end |
20112.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].text |
一開始跟我們講1300噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].start |
20112.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].end |
20113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].text |
後來講是3P |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].start |
20113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].end |
20114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].text |
後來講5P |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].start |
20114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].end |
20116.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].text |
現在剛剛講了5000多公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].start |
20116.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].end |
20118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].text |
那5000多公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].start |
20118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].end |
20120.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].text |
如果沒有辦法理解或是掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].start |
20120.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].end |
20122.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].text |
我們的學童到底有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].start |
20122.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].end |
20123.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].text |
學童的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].start |
20123.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].end |
20125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].text |
絕對是我們所在意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].start |
20125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].end |
20126.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].text |
如果說你在意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].start |
20126.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].end |
20129.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].text |
那你就不會現在還講不出這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].start |
20129.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].end |
20130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].text |
再者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].start |
20130.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].end |
20131.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].start |
20131.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].end |
20132.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].text |
剛剛還有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].start |
20132.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].end |
20133.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].text |
委員昨天吃了什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].start |
20133.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].end |
20134.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].text |
剛剛還有委員在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].start |
20134.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].end |
20135.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].text |
到底有多少重量 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].start |
20135.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].end |
20136.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].text |
有沒有吃到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].start |
20136.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].end |
20137.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].text |
剛剛還有委員站在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].start |
20137.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].end |
20140.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].text |
部長你不用在那邊問A答B啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].start |
20141.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].end |
20142.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].text |
剛剛還有委員在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].start |
20142.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].end |
20144.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].text |
講說後續的球場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].start |
20145.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].end |
20147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].text |
如果你現在都還不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].start |
20147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].end |
20149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].text |
到底有學童吃了多少的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].start |
20149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].end |
20150.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].text |
致癌物質的油的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].start |
20150.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].end |
20151.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].text |
你要怎麼協助球場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].start |
20153.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].end |
20154.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].text |
你要怎麼協助球場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].start |
20154.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].end |
20156.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].text |
我們會配合這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].start |
20156.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].end |
20157.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].text |
衛福部是要裁員我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].start |
20157.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].end |
20158.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].text |
你要怎麼協助球場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].start |
20158.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].end |
20159.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].text |
是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].start |
20159.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].end |
20161.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].text |
一個多禮拜過去了耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].start |
20163.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].end |
20164.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].text |
一個多禮拜過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].start |
20164.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].end |
20165.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].text |
你今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].start |
20165.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].end |
20166.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].text |
我們今天開這個專案會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].start |
20167.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].end |
20168.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].text |
你難道不知道是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].start |
20168.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].end |
20170.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].text |
要問這相關的問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].start |
20170.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].end |
20171.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].text |
一個多禮拜過去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].start |
20171.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].end |
20173.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].text |
難道不知道應該要跟國小國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].start |
20173.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].end |
20174.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].text |
幼稚園來釐清說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].start |
20174.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].end |
20176.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].text |
到底我們有多少的致癌 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].start |
20176.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].end |
20177.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].text |
有已經流入校園了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].start |
20180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].end |
20181.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].text |
你現在是跟我裝無辜 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].start |
20181.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].end |
20182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].text |
在裝什麼無辜啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].start |
20182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].end |
20183.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].text |
我要跟委員報告是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].start |
20183.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].end |
20185.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].text |
食藥署公布的我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].start |
20185.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].end |
20187.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].text |
不合格的品項我們全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].start |
20187.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].end |
20189.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].text |
22個縣市都全部下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].start |
20189.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].end |
20191.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].text |
這個是我在學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].start |
20191.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].end |
20192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].text |
我確保他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].start |
20192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].end |
20193.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].text |
這一個不會再 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].start |
20193.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].end |
20194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].text |
你講的很好聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].start |
20194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].end |
20196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].text |
但是我現在就講是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].start |
20196.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].end |
20197.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].text |
連剛剛我問出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].start |
20197.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].end |
20199.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].text |
有5000多公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].start |
20199.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].end |
20200.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].text |
那我怎麼知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].start |
20200.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].end |
20201.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].text |
5000多公噸到底有沒有確實下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].start |
20201.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].end |
20202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].text |
對不起委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].start |
20202.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].end |
20203.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].text |
問我這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].start |
20203.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].end |
20204.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].text |
我沒有辦法回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].start |
20205.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].end |
20208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].text |
我問你有很標準的問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].start |
20208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].end |
20210.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].text |
這個問題難道不是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].start |
20210.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].end |
20212.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].text |
全國國人全國家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].start |
20212.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].end |
20213.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].text |
想要知道的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].start |
20213.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].end |
20215.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].text |
這就是我們教育部部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].start |
20215.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].end |
20217.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].text |
想要告訴國人的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].start |
20219.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].end |
20220.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].start |
20219.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].end |
20221.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].text |
為什麼本期間會特別再跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].start |
20223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].end |
20225.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].text |
因為這次中間你還去了哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].start |
20228.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].end |
20230.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].text |
這中間你還去地方服選 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].start |
20230.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].end |
20234.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].text |
連衛福部部長都知道避嫌 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].start |
20234.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].end |
20235.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].text |
就知道說6月30號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].start |
20235.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].end |
20240.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].text |
我爺爺要去聲明這個資訊是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].start |
20240.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].end |
20241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].text |
來什麼資訊不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].start |
20241.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].end |
20243.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].text |
我是8號確實身體有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].start |
20243.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].end |
20244.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].text |
有沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].start |
20244.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].end |
20247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].text |
我們主席也跟羅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].start |
20247.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].end |
20249.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].text |
還特地送我出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].start |
20249.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].end |
20251.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].text |
但是我19號我是請假 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].start |
20251.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].end |
20253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].text |
也經過委員同意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].start |
20253.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].end |
20255.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].text |
來 部長本期在講7月4號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].start |
20255.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].end |
20257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].text |
這一場活動在新竹 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].start |
20257.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].end |
20259.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].text |
是6月30號爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].start |
20259.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].end |
20261.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].text |
有品事件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].start |
20261.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].end |
20263.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].text |
本來你要跟衛福部長一起去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].start |
20263.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].end |
20265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].text |
衛福部長都知道要避嫌了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].start |
20265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].end |
20267.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].text |
衛福部長不去就換經濟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].start |
20268.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].end |
20269.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].text |
結果你還去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].start |
20269.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].end |
20270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].text |
我要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].start |
20270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].end |
20274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].text |
任何一個人只要他想要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].start |
20274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].end |
20276.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].text |
我們國家教育政策怎麼推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].start |
20276.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].end |
20278.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].text |
只要我實現允許 |
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20278.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].end |
20280.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].text |
我都樂意去分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].start |
20280.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].end |
20282.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].text |
所以那一天是誰邀請您去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].start |
20283.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].end |
20286.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].text |
是 這個台灣智庫的執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].start |
20286.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].end |
20288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].text |
台灣智庫執行長 是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].start |
20288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].end |
20289.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].text |
在哪邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].start |
20289.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].end |
20290.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].text |
台灣智庫執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].start |
20292.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].end |
20293.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].text |
貴姓大名 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].start |
20294.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].end |
20295.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].text |
莊執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].start |
20296.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].end |
20298.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].text |
這一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].start |
20299.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].end |
20301.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].text |
這樣 全民很不好講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].start |
20301.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].end |
20303.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].text |
想要了解教育政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].start |
20303.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].end |
20304.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].start |
20304.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].end |
20305.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].text |
只要我實現允許 我都樂意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].start |
20305.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].end |
20307.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].text |
當天是台灣智庫執行長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].start |
20307.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].end |
20309.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].text |
莊敬成執行長邀請您去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].start |
20309.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].end |
20310.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].start |
20310.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].end |
20312.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].text |
主動跟您電話聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].start |
20312.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].end |
20313.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].text |
跟我的命書聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].start |
20313.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].end |
20314.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].text |
跟您命書聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].start |
20314.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].end |
20315.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].start |
20315.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].end |
20316.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].text |
就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].start |
20316.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].end |
20318.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].text |
來 你看一下他上面的title是寫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].start |
20320.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].end |
20321.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].text |
他不是寫台灣智庫耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].start |
20322.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].end |
20325.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].text |
他是新竹市長候選人耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].start |
20326.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].end |
20328.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].text |
我任何去的行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].start |
20328.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].end |
20330.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].text |
今天是一個新竹市長候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].start |
20330.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].end |
20332.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].text |
然後結果就可以直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].start |
20332.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].end |
20334.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].text |
跟我們教育部的命書來聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].start |
20334.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].end |
20336.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].text |
然後教育部長就可以親自出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].start |
20337.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].end |
20338.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].text |
surprise |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].start |
20339.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].end |
20340.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].text |
真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].start |
20340.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].end |
20342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].text |
顛覆國人的認知 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].start |
20342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].end |
20343.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].text |
尤其是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].start |
20343.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].end |
20345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].text |
我們已經爆發6月30號已經爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].start |
20345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].end |
20347.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].text |
使用有危機之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].start |
20347.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].end |
20349.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].text |
大家都要釐清是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].start |
20349.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].end |
20350.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].text |
到底什麼狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].start |
20350.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].end |
20351.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].text |
結果我們教育部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].start |
20351.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].end |
20353.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].text |
居然還可以因為一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].start |
20353.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].end |
20355.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].text |
市長候選人邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].start |
20355.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].end |
20356.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].text |
然後你就可以出啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].start |
20356.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].end |
20358.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].text |
我的這個電話記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].start |
20358.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].end |
20360.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].text |
我事實上還當天打電話給市長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].start |
20360.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].end |
20361.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].text |
最後啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].start |
20361.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].end |
20363.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].text |
這個整個郵便一定要再重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].start |
20363.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].end |
20364.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].text |
你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].start |
20364.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].end |
20366.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].text |
最後啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].start |
20366.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].end |
20368.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].text |
你看很多的新聞啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].start |
20368.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].end |
20369.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].text |
我私底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].start |
20369.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].end |
20370.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].text |
很多的新聞啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].start |
20370.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].end |
20372.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].text |
都在講說這個不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].start |
20372.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].end |
20374.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].text |
休假的休息的一個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].start |
20374.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].end |
20375.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].text |
問我我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].start |
20375.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].end |
20376.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].text |
我到底哪裡可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].start |
20376.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].end |
20378.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].text |
很多的新聞都講是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].start |
20378.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].end |
20380.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].text |
民進黨新竹市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].start |
20380.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].end |
20381.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].text |
政策宣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].start |
20381.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].end |
20383.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].text |
基本的職責你來挑戰我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].start |
20383.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].end |
20384.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].text |
我來用話講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].start |
20384.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].end |
20385.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].text |
我不用挑戰你 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].start |
20385.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].end |
20386.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].text |
但是那是我的心理用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].start |
20386.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].end |
20387.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].text |
我下班的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].start |
20387.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].end |
20389.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].text |
來部長我們直接跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].start |
20389.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].end |
20390.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].text |
過去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].start |
20390.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].end |
20392.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].text |
政府時代的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].start |
20392.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].end |
20394.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].text |
怎麼對待我們的政務官的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].start |
20394.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].end |
20395.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].text |
過去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].start |
20395.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].end |
20397.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].text |
政府時代的時候也有教育部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].start |
20397.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].end |
20400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].text |
他只是出席一個初選 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].start |
20400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].end |
20401.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].text |
場合 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].start |
20401.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].end |
20402.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].text |
他還沒有上台分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].start |
20402.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].end |
20404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].text |
就已經被在野黨抨擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].start |
20404.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].end |
20407.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].text |
並且當時的行政院長還講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].start |
20408.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].end |
20410.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].text |
是自由公民的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].start |
20410.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].end |
20413.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].text |
但是法務部教育部國防部警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].start |
20413.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].end |
20415.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].text |
等單位應該保持行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].start |
20415.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].end |
20417.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].text |
不宜輔選 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].start |
20417.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].end |
20419.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].text |
這是當時國民黨執政時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].start |
20419.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].end |
20421.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].text |
馬政府的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].start |
20421.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].end |
20423.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].text |
對於政務官的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].start |
20423.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].end |
20425.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].text |
對於法務部教育部國防部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].start |
20425.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].end |
20428.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].text |
跟警政署單位應該保持行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].start |
20428.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].end |
20429.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].text |
不宜輔選 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].start |
20429.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].end |
20432.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].text |
現在是民進黨執政之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].start |
20432.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].end |
20435.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].text |
對於我們的教育的態度是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].start |
20435.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].end |
20436.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].text |
尤其是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].start |
20436.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].end |
20440.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].text |
尤其是在食安球爆發的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].start |
20440.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].end |
20442.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].text |
還用這樣子的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].start |
20442.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].end |
20444.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].text |
人民會看在眼裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].start |
20444.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].end |
20445.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].text |
人民看在眼裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].start |
20445.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].end |
20446.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].text |
所以最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].start |
20447.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].end |
20448.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].text |
不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].start |
20448.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].end |
20450.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].text |
目前到底有多少的食用有被吃掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].start |
20451.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].end |
20453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].text |
校園裡面消化多少食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].start |
20453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].end |
20455.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].text |
我們回收多少食用油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].start |
20455.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].end |
20456.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].text |
致癌的不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].start |
20456.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].end |
20459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].text |
衛福部現在講五千多公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].start |
20459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].end |
20461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].text |
教育部現在還沒有辦法掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].start |
20461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].end |
20462.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].text |
這就是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].start |
20462.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].end |
20465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].text |
我們掌握的就是食藥署公布的所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].start |
20465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].end |
20467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].text |
這個不好的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].start |
20467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].end |
20468.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].text |
有問題的油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].start |
20468.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].end |
20471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].text |
明天行政院長專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].start |
20471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].end |
20472.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].text |
本期還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].start |
20473.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].end |
20475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].text |
衛福部相關同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].start |
20475.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].end |
20476.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].text |
要給 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].start |
20476.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].end |
20478.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].text |
全國國人最清楚的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].start |
20478.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].end |
20482.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].text |
尤其是我們還有一個行政院的食品安全會報 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].start |
20482.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].end |
20483.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].text |
六個月開一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].start |
20483.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].end |
20485.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].text |
必要時候可以臨時召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].start |
20485.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].end |
20487.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].text |
這個部分也要考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].start |
20487.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].end |
20490.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].text |
是不是現在應該要建議行政院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].start |
20490.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].end |
20491.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].text |
以行政院長之之 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].start |
20491.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].end |
20494.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].text |
召集跨部會來做相關的會報 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].start |
20494.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].end |
20495.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].start |
20498.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].end |
20499.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].start |
20501.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].end |
20502.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].text |
部長有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].start |
20503.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].end |
20505.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].text |
林慶琦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].start |
20505.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].end |
20506.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].text |
王宏威 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].start |
20508.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].end |
20511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].text |
今天登記的質詢委員均已發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].start |
20511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].end |
20512.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].text |
巡達結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].start |
20512.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].end |
20515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].text |
對委員質詢的要求提供相關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].start |
20515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].end |
20519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].text |
為及時答覆的部分請相關機關進述以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].start |
20519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].end |
20521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].text |
另有委員張雅玲 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].start |
20521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].end |
20522.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].text |
傅坤琦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].start |
20522.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].end |
20523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].text |
吳宗憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].start |
20523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].end |
20524.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].text |
徐欣瑩 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].start |
20524.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].end |
20525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].text |
林建琦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].start |
20525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].end |
20526.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].text |
葛如君 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].start |
20526.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].end |
20527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].text |
提出書面質詢列入記錄刊登公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].start |
20527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].end |
20529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].text |
並請相關器官以書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].start |
20529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].end |
20532.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].text |
教育經費編列與管理法相關修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].start |
20532.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].end |
20535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].text |
及國民轉介教育條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].start |
20535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].end |
20537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].text |
立即審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].start |
20537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].end |
20538.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].text |
現在休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].start |
20538.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].end |
20540.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].text |
下午2點40分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].start |
20540.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].end |
20546.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].text |
繼續審查行政命令及學校公參法相關草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].start |
20546.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].end |
20550.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].text |
未涉及至機關代表可以先行離席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].start |
20550.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].end |
20551.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].start |
20608.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].end |
20612.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].text |
這是使用書 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].start |
22126.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].end |
22136.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].text |
請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].start |
22131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].end |
22133.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].text |
現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].start |
22133.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].end |
22135.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].text |
進行審查行政命令有兩案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].start |
22135.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].end |
22138.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].text |
首先審查教育部含微修正高級中等以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].start |
22138.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].end |
22142.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].text |
學校教師解聘不續聘停聘之前辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].start |
22142.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].end |
22144.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].text |
部分條文案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].start |
22144.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].end |
22147.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].text |
現在有委員提案一案請醫事人員宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].start |
22149.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].end |
22150.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].text |
提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].start |
22150.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].end |
22156.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].text |
教育部於2015年1月12日完成高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘停聘後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].start |
22156.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].end |
22159.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].text |
之前辦法部分條文修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].start |
22159.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].end |
22163.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].text |
經第五會起教育及文化委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].start |
22163.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].end |
22169.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].text |
能認為有待修正之處請教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].start |
22169.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].end |
22172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].text |
依立法院職權刑事法第62條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].start |
22172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].end |
22174.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].text |
提報立法院院會決議後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].start |
22175.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].end |
22177.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].text |
通知教育部更正該辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].start |
22177.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].end |
22179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].text |
提案人羅田偉、岳元之、蔡村仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].start |
22181.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].end |
22183.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].text |
羅志強宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].start |
22183.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].end |
22183.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].start |
22184.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].end |
22186.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].start |
22186.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].end |
22187.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].text |
提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].start |
22188.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].end |
22189.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].text |
現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].start |
22189.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].end |
22191.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].text |
有沒有什麼要表示意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].start |
22192.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].end |
22194.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].text |
請機關代表表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].start |
22219.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].end |
22221.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].text |
好,謝謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].start |
22221.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].end |
22225.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].text |
那召委所提的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].start |
22225.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].end |
22228.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].text |
按照立院職權刑事法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].start |
22228.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].end |
22229.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].start |
22230.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].end |
22234.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].text |
來處理這些因更正的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].start |
22234.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].end |
22238.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].text |
那早上也有委員提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].start |
22238.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].end |
22242.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].text |
為了讓教育部在做更正的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].start |
22242.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].end |
22244.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].text |
比較聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].start |
22244.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].end |
22246.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].text |
不會更正了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].start |
22246.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].end |
22250.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].text |
又沒有辦法滿足委員這邊的方向的指點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].start |
22250.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].end |
22255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].text |
是不是建請按照早上委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].start |
22255.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].end |
22257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].text |
是不是就更正的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].start |
22257.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].end |
22259.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].text |
直接給我們做指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].start |
22259.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].end |
22262.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].text |
這樣在整體方向的共識上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].start |
22262.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].end |
22263.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].text |
比較好處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].start |
22263.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].end |
22265.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].text |
以上補充報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].start |
22273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].end |
22275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].text |
不好意思,所以請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].start |
22276.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].end |
22278.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].text |
機關就現在的文字部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].start |
22283.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].end |
22284.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].text |
要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].start |
22286.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].end |
22288.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].start |
22288.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].end |
22291.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].text |
因為這一次兩個辦法的修正裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].start |
22291.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].end |
22294.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].text |
有關這個解聘辦法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].start |
22294.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].end |
22297.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].text |
有修正的重點有七個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].start |
22297.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].end |
22299.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].text |
就如我們書面報告所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].start |
22299.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].end |
22303.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].text |
那其中有一些像 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].start |
22303.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].end |
22306.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].text |
有一些修正的一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].start |
22306.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].end |
22308.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].text |
其實現在都已經在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].start |
22308.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].end |
22310.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].text |
而且是有成效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].start |
22310.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].end |
22315.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].text |
是不是能夠請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].start |
22315.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].end |
22316.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].text |
在提案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].start |
22316.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].end |
22318.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].text |
我們稍微做一點修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].start |
22318.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].end |
22319.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].start |
22319.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].end |
22321.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].text |
請給我一個修正的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].start |
22321.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].end |
22323.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].text |
因為早上好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].start |
22323.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].end |
22326.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].text |
早上部長在答詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].start |
22326.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].end |
22327.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].text |
也提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].start |
22327.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].end |
22331.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].text |
在我們全國教育局局長會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].start |
22331.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].end |
22333.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].text |
有提到授權地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].start |
22333.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].end |
22338.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].text |
對於調和或調處機制的一個架構的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].start |
22338.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].end |
22340.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].start |
22340.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].end |
22342.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].text |
所以在一字一條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].start |
22342.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].end |
22344.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].text |
我們似乎可以再做一些思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].start |
22344.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].end |
22348.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].text |
就由我們教育部來架構整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].start |
22348.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].end |
22351.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].text |
讓他能夠做好這個預防的一個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].start |
22351.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].end |
22356.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].text |
我想這個是委員們可以來思考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].start |
22356.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].end |
22357.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].text |
往這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].start |
22357.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].end |
22358.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].text |
所以不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].start |
22358.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].end |
22360.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].text |
因為依照文字上面寫說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].start |
22360.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].end |
22363.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].text |
請教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].start |
22364.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].end |
22366.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].text |
你的方法你去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].start |
22366.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].end |
22370.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].text |
就不要全部都需要更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].start |
22370.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].end |
22373.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].text |
因為有一些部分已經都 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].start |
22373.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].end |
22375.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].text |
修正重點都已經在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].start |
22375.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].end |
22377.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].text |
而且有效率了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].start |
22377.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].end |
22380.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].text |
所以是不是就那個部分同意備查 |
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22380.17 |
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就是不 |
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22382.87 |
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22384.87 |
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沒有爭議的部分 |
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22384.87 |
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我們就同意備查 |
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22385.87 |
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22386.87 |
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然後有爭議的部分 |
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22386.87 |
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我們退回教育部 |
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22388.87 |
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22390.87 |
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因為我們沒辦法逐條 |
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22390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].end |
22392.87 |
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我們就是整個備查 |
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22392.87 |
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22395.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].text |
跟整個退回要求重新訂正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].start |
22395.87 |
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22397.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].text |
再送院備查 |
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22397.87 |
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所以基本上的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].start |
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22400.87 |
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沒有所謂的保留 |
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22402.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].end |
22403.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].text |
部分條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].start |
22403.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].end |
22406.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].text |
跟召委報告好像法務部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].start |
22406.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].end |
22408.47 |
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好像有給我們一個以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8547].end |
22410.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].text |
有這樣的一個潛力的樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].start |
22410.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].end |
22412.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].text |
是不是能夠請法務部這邊提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8549].end |
22414.47 |
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歡迎提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8550].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[8550].text |
請問是汪南軍參事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].start |
22416.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].end |
22418.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].start |
22420.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].end |
22421.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].start |
22421.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].end |
22423.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].text |
是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].start |
22423.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].end |
22424.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].text |
跟召委報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].start |
22424.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].end |
22425.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].text |
有關這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].start |
22425.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].end |
22429.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].text |
基本上我們是看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].start |
22429.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].end |
22430.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].text |
立法院職權刑事法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].start |
22430.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].end |
22432.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].text |
六十二條的第一項規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].start |
22432.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].end |
22435.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].text |
似乎是行政命令交付委員會審查後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].start |
22435.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].end |
22437.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].text |
是要提報院會議決 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].start |
22437.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].end |
22439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].text |
那如果要退回的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].start |
22439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].end |
22440.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].text |
就是我們俗稱退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].start |
22440.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].end |
22442.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].text |
就是通資源訂班機關更正費紙的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].start |
22442.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].end |
22444.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].text |
還是要有一些要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].start |
22444.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].end |
22446.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].text |
就是違反或者是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].start |
22446.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].end |
22448.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].text |
變更或抵觸法律的狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].start |
22448.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].end |
22449.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].text |
有與院母法的授權範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].start |
22449.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].end |
22451.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].text |
或者是會變更法律效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].start |
22451.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].end |
22455.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].text |
那可能還是有比較有具體的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].start |
22456.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].end |
22457.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].start |
22458.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].end |
22460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].text |
就這部分能退回的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].start |
22460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].end |
22462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].text |
這樣子讓原訂班機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].start |
22462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].end |
22463.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].text |
可以做比較好的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].start |
22464.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].end |
22465.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].start |
22465.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].end |
22466.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].text |
請陳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].start |
22466.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].end |
22467.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].text |
謝召委喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].start |
22467.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].end |
22468.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].text |
您的這個提案啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].start |
22468.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].end |
22470.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].text |
其實本席認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].start |
22470.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].end |
22472.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].text |
現在的校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].start |
22472.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].end |
22474.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].text |
辦法目前的這個程序分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].start |
22474.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].end |
22476.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].text |
跟審議的機制呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].start |
22476.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].end |
22479.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].text |
如果以這個教師法第二十九條喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].start |
22479.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].end |
22481.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].text |
明確授權有訂立進去範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].start |
22481.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].end |
22484.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].text |
其實沒有逾越這個母法授權的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].start |
22484.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].end |
22485.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].text |
那校事會議呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].start |
22485.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].end |
22487.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].text |
因為涉及的是教師學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].start |
22487.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].end |
22489.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].text |
以及家長三方的權益喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].start |
22489.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].end |
22492.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].text |
那民進黨團我們在二十九號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].start |
22492.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].end |
22494.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].text |
我們有提出一個臨時提案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].start |
22494.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].end |
22497.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].text |
是有要求教育部在九月底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].start |
22497.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].end |
22499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].text |
針對第三方調查權等 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].start |
22499.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].end |
22502.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].text |
來這個機制來進行研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].start |
22502.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].end |
22503.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].text |
這是第一條喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].start |
22503.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].end |
22504.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].text |
那第二個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].start |
22504.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].end |
22506.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].text |
就是教育部應該跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].start |
22506.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].end |
22508.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].text |
就是就這個保障教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].start |
22510.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].end |
22513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].text |
的部分依法喔管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].start |
22513.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].end |
22515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].text |
依管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].start |
22515.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].end |
22518.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].text |
來建立防濫數及 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].start |
22518.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].end |
22520.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].text |
這個完善相對的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].start |
22520.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].end |
22521.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].text |
我意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].start |
22521.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].end |
22522.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].text |
我們在二十九號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].start |
22522.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].end |
22523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].text |
我們有提這個臨題喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].start |
22523.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].end |
22525.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].text |
就是希望教育部可以持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].start |
22525.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].end |
22527.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].text |
來蒐集各方的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].start |
22527.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].end |
22529.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].text |
那最為就是這個校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].start |
22529.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].end |
22531.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].text |
這個辦法檢討的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].start |
22531.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].end |
22533.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].text |
那其實您在提案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].start |
22533.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].end |
22535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].text |
其實您沒有很明確的指出說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].start |
22535.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].end |
22537.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].text |
他們有在哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].start |
22537.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].end |
22540.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].text |
這個辦法有去違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].start |
22540.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].end |
22543.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].text |
法律獲釋與願無法授權這個範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].start |
22543.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].end |
22544.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].text |
所以我想你這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].start |
22544.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].end |
22546.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].text |
如果沒有很實質的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].start |
22546.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].end |
22549.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].text |
那你要讓教育部來修正的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].start |
22549.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].end |
22551.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].text |
其實並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].start |
22554.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].end |
22555.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].text |
所以如果有問題的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].start |
22555.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].end |
22557.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].text |
請委員提出你的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].start |
22557.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].end |
22559.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].text |
我的意思是說我們在7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].start |
22561.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].end |
22563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].text |
6月29號的時候就提臨題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].start |
22563.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].end |
22566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].text |
就是希望說教育部在9月底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].start |
22566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].end |
22569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].text |
他們要做這個相關的依據的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].start |
22569.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].end |
22572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].text |
期程規劃以及這個整個辦法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].start |
22572.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].end |
22575.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].text |
修正的這個規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].start |
22575.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].end |
22577.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].text |
那是不是也等他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].start |
22577.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].end |
22579.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].text |
蒐集相關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].start |
22579.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].end |
22582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].text |
那以這個臨題的這個當初的這個結論就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].start |
22582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].end |
22583.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].text |
9月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].start |
22583.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].end |
22585.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].text |
之前提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].start |
22585.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].end |
22587.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].text |
然後我們再來根據這個部分大家來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].start |
22587.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].end |
22589.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].text |
以上謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].start |
22590.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].end |
22593.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].text |
好那請問教育部有要提出你的文字修正嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].start |
22604.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].end |
22606.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].text |
好我們現場休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].start |
23407.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].end |
23409.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].start |
23409.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].end |
23411.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].text |
現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].start |
23410.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].end |
23413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].text |
我們繼續來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].start |
23414.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].end |
23415.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].text |
委員提案第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].start |
23417.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].end |
23419.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].start |
23418.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].end |
23421.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].text |
提案的委員以及主管機關對說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].start |
23422.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].end |
23424.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].text |
我們現在要來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].start |
23424.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].end |
23426.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].text |
本案是否照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].start |
23428.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].end |
23429.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].text |
請問有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].start |
23430.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].end |
23432.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].text |
主席我們還是要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].start |
23432.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].end |
23434.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].text |
可不可以先見請先不要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].start |
23434.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].end |
23437.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].text |
我們先持續討論到因為這個案子本身現在提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].start |
23437.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].end |
23439.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].text |
就有問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].start |
23441.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].end |
23444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].text |
所以這不是有沒有意義的問題是這個提案本身就有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].start |
23445.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].end |
23446.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].text |
那除非我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].start |
23446.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].end |
23451.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].text |
張偉你可以指出他們現在送到立法院來備查的這個修法內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].start |
23451.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].end |
23453.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].text |
你覺得哪裡是有違反魔法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].start |
23453.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].end |
23456.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].text |
早上所有的委員都已經說過如果他沒有違反魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].start |
23456.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].end |
23458.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].text |
他就只是送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].start |
23458.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].end |
23461.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].text |
那我們為什麼要針對這個沒有違反魔法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].start |
23461.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].end |
23463.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].text |
教育部的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].start |
23463.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].end |
23466.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].text |
然後現在是羅庭偉張偉說要把他撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].start |
23466.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].end |
23468.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].text |
叫他們重新更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].start |
23468.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].end |
23471.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].text |
那我們覺得你的這個提案本身就是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].start |
23471.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].end |
23473.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].text |
那我們為什麼要針對有問題的提案來處理呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].start |
23478.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].end |
23479.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].text |
還有委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].start |
23492.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].end |
23493.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].text |
因為很明顯喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].start |
23493.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].end |
23498.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].text |
訂定辦法就是行政機關依法有據的權責啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].start |
23498.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].end |
23500.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].text |
訂定辦法就是行政機關的權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].start |
23500.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].end |
23503.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].text |
那如果今天你立法院要求要退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].start |
23503.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].end |
23506.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].text |
或要求這個教育部要修正這個相關辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].start |
23506.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].end |
23509.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].text |
那就對我覺得還是要問那依據是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].start |
23509.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].end |
23513.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].text |
他違反了哪個魔法的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].start |
23513.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].end |
23515.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].text |
那目的又是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].start |
23515.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].end |
23518.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].text |
那所以我覺得應該是有義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].start |
23518.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].end |
23520.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].text |
就是說張偉你排了這個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].start |
23520.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].end |
23523.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].text |
那你應該有義務要向 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].start |
23524.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].end |
23527.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].text |
教育部也要向全國的國人說明清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].start |
23527.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].end |
23532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].text |
那如果根據立法院職權行使法第62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].start |
23532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].end |
23538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].text |
行政命令經審查後發現有違反變更或抵觸法律者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].start |
23538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].end |
23543.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].text |
或因以法律規定事項而以命令訂知者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].start |
23543.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].end |
23550.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].text |
因提報院會經議決後通知原訂班知機關更正或廢止之 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].start |
23551.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].end |
23555.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].text |
所以請問還是要請教提案委員跟黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].start |
23555.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].end |
23559.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].text |
就是說你們今天審查這個相關辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].start |
23559.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].end |
23562.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].text |
到底哪個字抵觸了法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].start |
23562.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].end |
23564.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].text |
那如果你沒有辦法清楚點出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].start |
23564.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].end |
23566.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].text |
那我們今天討論的標的到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].start |
23566.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].end |
23570.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].text |
那我們在這裡討論這件事情的目的到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].start |
23570.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].end |
23574.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].text |
那還是說其實在野黨實際上就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].start |
23574.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].end |
23578.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].text |
只要求要廢除消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].start |
23578.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].end |
23582.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].text |
那如果是這樣那也請在野黨要負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].start |
23582.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].end |
23585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].text |
跟全國的家長跟學生大聲說出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].start |
23585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].end |
23587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].text |
你要廢除消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].start |
23587.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].end |
23588.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].start |
23590.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].end |
23592.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].text |
好跟委員特別報告剛剛的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].start |
23592.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].end |
23596.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].text |
很清楚的寫請教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].start |
23600.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].end |
23601.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].text |
主席謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].start |
23601.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].end |
23602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].text |
我先說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].start |
23602.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].end |
23606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].text |
你要叫教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].start |
23606.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].end |
23608.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].text |
看起來好像很有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].start |
23608.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].end |
23610.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].text |
就好像有一個小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].start |
23610.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].end |
23612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].text |
他教了他的作業部給老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].start |
23612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].end |
23614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].text |
老師看都不看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].start |
23614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].end |
23617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].text |
也不知道他是不是有寫錯字或是造錯句子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].start |
23617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].end |
23620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].text |
就退回告訴他重寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].start |
23620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].end |
23622.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].text |
問題是老師你改都沒有改 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].start |
23622.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].end |
23623.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].text |
你就叫我退回去重寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].start |
23623.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].end |
23624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].text |
這不是很莫名其妙嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].start |
23624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].end |
23628.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].text |
現在教育部送到立法院備查的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].start |
23628.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].end |
23630.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].text |
我不確定委員你看了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].start |
23630.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].end |
23631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].text |
羅庭瑋教委你看了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].start |
23631.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].end |
23634.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].text |
如果你看了之後你認為他有哪一條的寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].start |
23634.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].end |
23636.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].text |
他有違反教師法的母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].start |
23636.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].end |
23638.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].text |
那你找出錯誤了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].start |
23638.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].end |
23639.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].text |
你用紅筆把它圈起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].start |
23639.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].end |
23641.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].text |
退回去叫教育部修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].start |
23641.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].end |
23644.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].text |
我認為今天所有坐在這裡的民進黨委員都不會有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].start |
23644.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].end |
23646.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].text |
可是你現在是連改都不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].start |
23646.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].end |
23647.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].text |
紅筆連圈都沒有圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].start |
23647.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].end |
23649.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].text |
你就退回叫教育部重改 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].start |
23649.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].end |
23651.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].text |
那我不知道教育部退回去他要改什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].start |
23651.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].end |
23653.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].text |
除非就像剛剛李怡錦委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].start |
23653.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].end |
23656.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].text |
如果國民黨委員的認為就是全面廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].start |
23656.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].end |
23658.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].text |
而且是立刻全面廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].start |
23658.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].end |
23659.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].text |
校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].start |
23659.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].end |
23661.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].text |
那就請教委你勇敢講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].start |
23661.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].end |
23664.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].text |
你對全國的家長對全國的學生交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].start |
23664.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].end |
23666.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].text |
那你現在沒有講出來就叫人家退回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].start |
23666.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].end |
23667.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].text |
那請問他要改什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].start |
23667.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].end |
23669.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].text |
他改了十遍二十遍你都不會滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].start |
23669.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].end |
23672.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].text |
因為你沒有告訴他你覺得他錯在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].start |
23672.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].end |
23675.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].text |
再不用講的是你今天是立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].start |
23675.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].end |
23678.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].text |
他跟母法母法是什麼是教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].start |
23678.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].end |
23681.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].text |
校事會議是根據教師法當年修法而來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].start |
23681.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].end |
23683.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].text |
你也沒有告訴他他到底違反了教師法什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].start |
23683.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].end |
23685.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].text |
你現在退回去他到底要改什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].start |
23694.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].end |
23696.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].text |
好我們有請羅志祥委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].start |
23698.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].end |
23702.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].text |
首先按照我們立法院過去的那個往例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].start |
23702.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].end |
23706.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].text |
那關於這審查行政命令的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].start |
23706.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].end |
23713.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].text |
有時候處理是以逾越母法等這些理由來退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].start |
23713.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].end |
23717.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].text |
但也有曾經在九十五年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].start |
23717.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].end |
23723.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].text |
這個針對國民小學及國民中學班級編制及教職員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].start |
23723.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].end |
23725.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].text |
而編制準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].start |
23725.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].end |
23728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].text |
那人為以九十四年11月24日 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].start |
23728.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].end |
23731.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].text |
本委員會決議之理由確實修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].start |
23731.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].end |
23734.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].text |
罔顧民意及實際狀況故意退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].start |
23734.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].end |
23739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].text |
所以他也有不是從今天直接你們說的所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].start |
23739.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].end |
23744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].text |
違反法規那個逾越母法的這個部分來做退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].start |
23744.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].end |
23747.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].text |
那是以所謂的罔顧民意跟實際狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].start |
23747.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].end |
23751.64 |
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但我舉這個例子就是說基本上都有成立啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].start |
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可是不管怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8745].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[8745].text |
既然這個召委這邊有這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].start |
23756.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[8746].text |
那這個提案教育部也說明了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].start |
23759.64 |
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23761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].text |
說明了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].start |
23761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].end |
23767.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].text |
這個召委覺得這邊這個提案人覺得基本上他不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].start |
23767.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].end |
23769.64 |
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他希望還是按照他的提案來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].start |
23769.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].end |
23772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].text |
那回到我們今天的議事程序的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].start |
23772.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].end |
23774.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].text |
那既然沒有辦法達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].start |
23774.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].end |
23777.64 |
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那就請召委就直接就處理了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].start |
23777.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].end |
23779.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].text |
那民進黨立委也表達意見了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].start |
23779.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].end |
23783.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].text |
那這個提案民進黨立委也可以表達反對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].start |
23783.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].end |
23786.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].text |
那就可以立刻做意識上的處理以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].start |
23787.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].end |
23789.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].text |
好 首先先回應一下委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].start |
23789.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].end |
23793.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].text |
剛剛委員說我們連內文都沒有看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].start |
23793.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].end |
23798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].text |
都沒有任何的舉出錯誤就要求退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].start |
23798.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].end |
23800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].text |
我想我們已經辦過公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].start |
23800.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].end |
23806.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].text |
那也多次的質詢所有的委員在質詢的過程也都提出了建言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].start |
23806.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].end |
23810.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].text |
包括調和機制 包括許多的教師權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].start |
23810.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].end |
23814.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].text |
我想教育部應該比誰都更清楚他錯在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].start |
23814.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].end |
23819.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].text |
那今天早上也特別邀請了第一線的教師來到現場講解 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].start |
23819.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].end |
23825.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].text |
教師會議在執行的過程造成老師的負擔 濫述 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].start |
23825.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].end |
23828.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].text |
也希望能夠更明確的去修改相關的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].start |
23828.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].end |
23831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].text |
來接住所有第一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].start |
23831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].end |
23834.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].text |
所以我們再提出這第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].start |
23834.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].end |
23836.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].text |
我們希望部分條文修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].start |
23836.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].end |
23839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].text |
經第五期會期的教育文化委員會第17次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].start |
23839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].end |
23843.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].text |
全體委員會議認為有待修正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].start |
23843.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].end |
23846.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].text |
請教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].start |
23846.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].end |
23852.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].text |
依立法院職權新司法62條提報立法院院會決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].start |
23852.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].end |
23855.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].text |
通知教育部更正該辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].start |
23855.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].end |
23857.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].text |
我的提案非常清楚簡單明瞭 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].start |
23857.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].end |
23860.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].text |
也希望直接來處理 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].start |
23860.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].end |
23863.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].text |
那如果有委員有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].start |
23863.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].end |
23865.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].text |
也希望委員提出自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].start |
23865.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].end |
23868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].text |
再來相互探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].start |
23868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].end |
23870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].text |
然後如果沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].start |
23870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].end |
23873.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].text |
我們就待會要直接進行處理這一個提案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].start |
23873.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].end |
23874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].text |
有請哲學老委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].start |
23875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].end |
23876.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].text |
舒希 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].start |
23876.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].end |
23878.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].text |
我想我剛剛已經有發言過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].start |
23878.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].end |
23880.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].text |
但是我覺得還是要再講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].start |
23880.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].end |
23881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].text |
您有說你的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].start |
23881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].end |
23883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].text |
你覺得說教育部就是要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].start |
23883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].end |
23884.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].text |
但是我很想知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].start |
23884.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].end |
23886.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].text |
您是對這個辦法裡面的哪一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].start |
23886.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].end |
23889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].text |
哪一款哪一項您覺得需要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].start |
23889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].end |
23891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].text |
或者說您剛剛講的就是防濫數的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].start |
23891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].end |
23893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].text |
它不夠完備的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].start |
23893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].end |
23895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].text |
是不是也可以在你的提案裡面寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].start |
23895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].end |
23898.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].text |
您覺得說是在這個辦法裡面的防濫數機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].start |
23898.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].end |
23900.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].text |
不夠完備應該再怎麼改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].start |
23900.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].end |
23902.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].text |
是具體的點出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].start |
23902.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].end |
23903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].text |
但是我希望教育部知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].start |
23903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].end |
23905.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].text |
它有哪裡不夠精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].start |
23905.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].end |
23907.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].text |
哪裡需要再更完備一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].start |
23907.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].end |
23911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].text |
這個部分我希望說主席您可以很明確的表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].start |
23911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].end |
23913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].text |
因為其實我們自己身在教務 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].start |
23913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].end |
23914.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].text |
我們也非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].start |
23914.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].end |
23917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].text |
這個關乎到教師關於在學生關到家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].start |
23917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].end |
23918.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].text |
關到整個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].start |
23918.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].end |
23920.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].text |
關整個教育體制的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].start |
23920.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].end |
23921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].text |
我們都很希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].start |
23921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].end |
23925.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].text |
它是一個好的辦法協助到各個需要協助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].start |
23925.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].end |
23927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].text |
但是今天您提的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].start |
23927.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].end |
23929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].text |
我真的理解不出來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].start |
23929.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].end |
23932.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].text |
您希望教育部它本身它去修正的在哪一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].start |
23932.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].end |
23934.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].text |
到底是哪一條哪一款哪一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].start |
23934.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].end |
23936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].text |
或者是說哪一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].start |
23936.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].end |
23939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].text |
哪一個方法在使用的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].start |
23939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].end |
23941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].text |
沒有那麼貼近現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].start |
23941.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].end |
23943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].text |
是不是可以很具體的指出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].start |
23943.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].end |
23944.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].text |
讓教育部他們去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].start |
23944.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].end |
23948.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].text |
並且去依著他們所收集到的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].start |
23948.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].end |
23951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].text |
大家對這個來仔細的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].start |
23951.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].end |
23955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].text |
對教育部才是一個具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].start |
23955.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].end |
23958.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].text |
一個見解還有一個做法的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].start |
23958.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].end |
23960.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].text |
那您這樣說請教育部修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].start |
23960.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].end |
23963.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].text |
那到底它是要修正哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].start |
23963.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].end |
23964.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].text |
全部修正嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].start |
23965.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].end |
23967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].text |
每一條嗎每一款嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].start |
23967.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].end |
23969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].text |
這個部分我現在請主席這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].start |
23969.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].end |
23972.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].text |
您再理解一下您自己的體驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].start |
23972.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].end |
23974.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].text |
給出來的訊息到底是什麼以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].start |
23976.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].end |
23978.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].text |
好再一次回答所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].start |
23978.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].end |
23980.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].text |
我們已經辦過公聽會了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].start |
23980.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].end |
23982.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].text |
在公聽會所有的教師代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].start |
23982.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].end |
23986.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].text |
都非常清楚明確指出相關的教師會議辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].start |
23986.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].end |
23988.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].text |
有明確的疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].start |
23988.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].end |
23990.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].text |
罔顧民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].start |
23990.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].end |
23993.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].text |
也必須要相關的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].start |
23993.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].end |
23996.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].text |
那我們也透過好幾次的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].start |
23996.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].end |
23998.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].text |
所有的委員給予建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].start |
23998.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].end |
24003.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].text |
今天早上也邀請了我們第一線的教師來到現場講述 |
| transcript.whisperx[8837].start |
24003.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8837].end |
24006.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8837].text |
我們在第一線教學過程的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].start |
24006.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].end |
24008.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].text |
還有教師會議的濫述 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].start |
24008.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].end |
24014.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].text |
甚至多起我們很多教育現場的新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].start |
24015.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].end |
24019.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].text |
都可以讓教育部直接參考了解他們需要哪裡改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].start |
24020.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].end |
24023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].text |
那我想教育部如果還不知道自己錯在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].start |
24023.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].end |
24024.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].text |
還需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].start |
24025.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].end |
24027.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].text |
我們來給他指點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].start |
24027.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].end |
24029.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].text |
那我想之前的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].start |
24029.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].end |
24031.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].text |
我們就先到這裡告一段落 |
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24031.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].end |
24032.24 |
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謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].start |
24030.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].end |
24032.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].text |
早上的老師現場來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].start |
24033.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].end |
24035.95 |
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是不是都變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].start |
24036.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].end |
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都完全無效 |
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24037.91 |
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24040.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].text |
我想這個部分在我的提案已經很清楚說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8851].start |
24040.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8851].end |
24044.91 |
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我們希望依照立法委員資訊新司法第62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].start |
24044.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].end |
24047.91 |
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請教育部修正以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].start |
24047.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].end |
24049.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].text |
再送來立法院繼續備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8854].start |
24051.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8854].end |
24052.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8854].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8855].start |
24055.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8855].end |
24057.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8855].text |
我們就依順序吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].start |
24057.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].end |
24059.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].text |
郭一行委員陳佩儀委員吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8857].start |
24062.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8857].end |
24064.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8857].text |
我還是要附議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].start |
24064.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].end |
24067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].text |
剛剛其實我們的委員所提出來的 |
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24067.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8859].end |
24070.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8859].text |
到底要教育部回去修正什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].start |
24070.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].end |
24074.11 |
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那是修正哪一條你覺得有違反法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[8861].start |
24074.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8861].end |
24079.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8861].text |
有哪一條法規的命令是違反這個行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].start |
24079.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].end |
24083.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].text |
然後在哪一條需要有確實的一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].start |
24083.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].end |
24085.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].text |
再送回來我們的立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8864].start |
24085.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8864].end |
24087.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8864].text |
到底是哪一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].start |
24087.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].end |
24089.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].text |
所以如果沒有具體寫出來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8866].start |
24089.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8866].end |
24092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8866].text |
那現在到底我們是要修正哪一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8867].start |
24092.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8867].end |
24095.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8867].text |
還是對內容文字上的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].start |
24095.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].end |
24100.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].text |
還是對於所謂的辦法上面的行使上的一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].start |
24100.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].end |
24103.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].text |
其實我們現在從光這一個提案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].start |
24103.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].end |
24105.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].text |
其實我們是完全看不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].start |
24105.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].end |
24111.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].text |
可不可以再請這個提案的委員再更仔細的來敘述一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].start |
24111.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].end |
24112.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].start |
24116.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].end |
24118.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].text |
有舉手的委員請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].start |
24118.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].end |
24119.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].text |
陳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].start |
24122.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].end |
24125.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].text |
把羅廷瑋的委員的提案念一遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[8876].start |
24125.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8876].end |
24126.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8876].text |
提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8877].start |
24147.29 |
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24153.29 |
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請教育部1立院職權行使法第62條規定修正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].start |
24155.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].end |
24162.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].text |
再送立法院備查提報立法院議員會議決後通知教育部更正該辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].start |
24162.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].end |
24167.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].text |
提案人羅廷瑋 連署人葉元之 蔡川仇 還有羅志強 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].start |
24167.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].end |
24169.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].text |
這個是羅廷瑋委員你的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].start |
24169.42 |
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24174.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].text |
剛剛你也自己一直說立法院職權行使法第62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].start |
24174.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].end |
24176.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].text |
62條是怎麼寫的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].start |
24176.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].end |
24182.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].text |
他說行政命令經過審查之後發現有違反 變更或抵觸法律者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].start |
24182.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].end |
24186.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].text |
或應該以法律規定的事項而以命令定之者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].start |
24186.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].end |
24194.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].text |
應提報院會 經議決後通知原訂班之機關更正或廢止之 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].start |
24194.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].end |
24198.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].text |
所以我現在看不出來在羅委員的提案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].start |
24198.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].end |
24203.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].text |
一 完全沒有明白的書寫並且揭示 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].start |
24203.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].end |
24207.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].text |
到底教育部現在送來的這個草案裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].start |
24207.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].end |
24213.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].text |
有哪一條 哪一個字 哪一個版本 有違反 變更或抵觸法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].start |
24213.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].end |
24219.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].text |
所以我認為提案委員跟連署的委員並沒有負責任的對國人交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].start |
24219.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].end |
24223.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].text |
到底你們所認為違反命令的部分是哪一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].start |
24223.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].end |
24230.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].text |
再來我要說他必須要提報院會是因提報院會經議決後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].start |
24230.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].end |
24233.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].text |
所以也不是我們委員會今天可以處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].start |
24234.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].end |
24235.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].start |
24236.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].end |
24239.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].text |
你現在所寫的所謂待修正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].start |
24239.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].end |
24241.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].text |
其實跟法規要件也不合 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].start |
24241.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].end |
24244.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].text |
接下來我要再次提醒提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].start |
24244.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].end |
24246.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].text |
如果您所認為的不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].start |
24246.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].end |
24251.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].text |
如果到時候跟教育部所認為的還要再修正的又不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].start |
24251.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].end |
24254.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].text |
那是不是又要再一次在委員會再處理這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].start |
24254.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].end |
24260.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].text |
也就是如果委員你真的認為哪裡有所謂的違反抵觸的魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].start |
24260.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].end |
24262.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].text |
你應該要明白具體的指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].start |
24263.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].end |
24268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].text |
所以我完全看不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].start |
24268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].end |
24271.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].text |
接下來是如果你真的認為有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].start |
24271.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].end |
24275.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].text |
那就請你在這個提案裡面把錯的地方寫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].start |
24275.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].end |
24279.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].text |
最後我要提醒辦過公聽會辦過質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].start |
24279.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].end |
24285.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].text |
邀請現場老師來說明這些人沒有義務也沒有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].start |
24285.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].end |
24291.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].text |
幫羅庭委員在這一份不負責任的提案裡面背書 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].start |
24291.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].end |
24294.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].text |
我再強調一次公聽會的內容也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].start |
24294.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].end |
24296.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].text |
所有委員的質詢也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].start |
24296.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].end |
24303.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].text |
所有家長的發言都不可以拿來為這一份不負責任的提案背書 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].start |
24303.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].end |
24305.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].text |
請委員一碼歸一碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].start |
24305.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].end |
24308.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].text |
把你真的認為有抵觸法律的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].start |
24308.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].end |
24310.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].text |
清清楚楚的寫下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].start |
24310.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].end |
24315.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].text |
說出來讓教育部如果真的在院會處理後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].start |
24315.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].end |
24317.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].text |
他們必須要去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].start |
24317.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].end |
24318.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].text |
與理有據 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].start |
24318.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].end |
24321.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].text |
而且他知道您所要的東西到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].start |
24321.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].end |
24322.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].start |
24325.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].end |
24327.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].text |
好有請吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].start |
24327.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].end |
24330.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].text |
這個校事會議尤其這個解聘辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].start |
24330.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].end |
24332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].text |
其實我們都認為應該要修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].start |
24332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].end |
24333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].text |
也認為應該要精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].start |
24333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].end |
24335.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].text |
我們也都這樣要求教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].start |
24335.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].end |
24336.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].text |
但是因為我們今天坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].start |
24336.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].end |
24338.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].text |
我們是因為是立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].start |
24338.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].end |
24340.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].text |
才有辦法來進行相關的審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].start |
24340.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].end |
24343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].text |
所以我覺得我們還是要回到這個母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].start |
24343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].end |
24346.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].text |
尤其立法院的職權行使法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].start |
24346.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].end |
24348.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].text |
因為現在這個委員的提案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].start |
24348.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].end |
24353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].text |
特別來去援引了立法院職權行使法第62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].start |
24353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].end |
24356.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].text |
但是62條的規定就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].start |
24356.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].end |
24359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].text |
除非這個辦法他有違反法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].start |
24361.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].end |
24363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].text |
要教育部來更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].start |
24363.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].end |
24365.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].text |
或者是退回廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].start |
24365.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].end |
24367.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].text |
那麼所以按照現在我們尊重委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].start |
24367.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].end |
24369.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].text |
但是按照現在這個提案的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].start |
24369.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].end |
24371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].text |
我會無法進行審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].start |
24371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].end |
24376.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].text |
因為這個提案本身是違反立法院職權行使法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].start |
24376.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].end |
24378.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].text |
剛剛有講到說過去有其他的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].start |
24378.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].end |
24381.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].text |
但是其他委員會案例怎麼審 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].start |
24381.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].end |
24383.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].text |
或是過去怎麼審 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].start |
24383.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].end |
24385.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].text |
不代表我們現在就要這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].start |
24385.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].end |
24387.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].text |
我們還是要回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].start |
24387.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].end |
24389.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].text |
我會要求我們還是要回到母法 |
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另外還是尊重委員的提案 |
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只是說在這個提案內容文字當中 |
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我們看不出來這個如何的是依據 |
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立法院職權行使法第62條 |
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因為並沒有去提到違法的事項 |
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但是如果按照剛剛委員說要修正的文字 |
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就是說人認為有待修正之處 |
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請教育部依立法院職權行使法第62條規定 |
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修正後再送立法院備查 |
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提包立法院院會議決後 |
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通知教育部更正該辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8957].start |
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這個修正的文字 |
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我也認為也有問題 |
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因為按照你現在的文字 |
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你是說請教育部修正完 |
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送來備查 |
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修正完了這一份備查了之後 |
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還要再教育部再去更正 |
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按照你現在這個文字的寫法 |
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是這個樣子 |
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等於要做兩次的修正 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8967].text |
那到底是修正哪一個內容 |
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因為看起來我們應該是只要一次修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].start |
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24456.63 |
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所以這個文字落得也有問題 |
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24459.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].text |
如果還是堅持要這樣提案的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8971].end |
24462.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].text |
這個文字應該要把它修改 |
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24463.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].text |
否則這個程序會很奇怪 |
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已經立法院退回修完 |
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24469.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].text |
立法院備查之後還要再去更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8975].text |
這個不太對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].start |
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24472.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].text |
這個文字還等會還要再修改 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].start |
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24474.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].text |
那麼因為這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].start |
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24477.63 |
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如果還是委員堅持要做這樣的提案 |
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因為我認為這個是違背了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].start |
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24482.63 |
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我們立法院職權刑事法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].start |
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所以等一下如果堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].start |
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24485.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].text |
在沒有共識的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].start |
24485.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].end |
24487.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].text |
還要強行表決的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].start |
24487.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].end |
24489.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].text |
我會認為我沒有辦法去針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].start |
24489.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].end |
24493.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].text |
本身就違反立法院職權刑事法的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].start |
24493.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].end |
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去進行表議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].start |
24495.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].end |
24497.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].text |
因為我們是立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].start |
24497.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].end |
24499.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].text |
我們沒有辦法去違背法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].start |
24499.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].end |
24501.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].text |
我該怎麼樣去行使我的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].start |
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24503.63 |
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是由法律再規範我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].start |
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24504.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].text |
所以這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8992].end |
24505.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].text |
我認為還是要修改到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].start |
24505.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].end |
24507.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].text |
符合法律的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].start |
24507.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].end |
24509.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].text |
我們再來進行審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].start |
24509.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].end |
24510.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].text |
這樣應當比較合適 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8996].end |
24511.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].start |
24514.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].end |
24515.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].text |
好 還有委員要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].start |
24517.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].end |
24518.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].start |
24518.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].end |
24519.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].text |
鼓勵委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].start |
24520.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].end |
24522.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].start |
24522.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].end |
24524.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].text |
我這邊一樣的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[9002].end |
24526.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].text |
但是我就是要表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].start |
24526.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].end |
24528.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].text |
那個整個歷程 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[9004].end |
24530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].text |
因為我們關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].start |
24530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].end |
24532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].text |
校事會議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].start |
24532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].end |
24534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].text |
曾經兩個召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].start |
24534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].end |
24536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].text |
一個排過公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[9008].end |
24538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].text |
那另外一個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[9009].end |
24540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].text |
也排過專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[9010].end |
24542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].text |
那當時呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].start |
24542.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].end |
24544.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].text |
我們也做了很多的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[9012].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[9012].text |
像兩週前 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].start |
24546.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].end |
24548.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].text |
我就是特別做了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].start |
24548.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].end |
24550.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].text |
臨時提案跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].start |
24550.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].end |
24552.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].text |
就是具體的要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].start |
24552.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].end |
24554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].text |
九月要提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].start |
24554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].end |
24556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].text |
具體的關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].start |
24556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].end |
24558.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].text |
第三方調查機制的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].start |
24558.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].end |
24560.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].text |
或者期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].start |
24560.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].end |
24562.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].text |
的一個可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].start |
24562.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].end |
24564.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].text |
那另外也提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].start |
24564.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].end |
24566.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].text |
我們所最在意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].start |
24566.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].end |
24568.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].text |
就是教師的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].start |
24568.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].end |
24570.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].text |
管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].start |
24570.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].end |
24572.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].text |
還有呢 防止這個濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].start |
24572.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].end |
24574.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].text |
檢舉失衡提供一個完善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].start |
24574.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].end |
24576.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].text |
教師的救濟制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].start |
24576.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].end |
24578.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].text |
當時也有邀請說法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].start |
24578.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].end |
24580.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].text |
要來協助這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].start |
24580.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].end |
24582.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].text |
那在更早之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].start |
24582.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].end |
24584.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].text |
也有要求過說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].start |
24584.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].end |
24586.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].text |
這個一月初 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].start |
24586.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].end |
24588.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].text |
公告失刑上路的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].start |
24588.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].end |
24590.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].text |
這個版本呢 希望可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].start |
24590.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].end |
24592.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].text |
試行半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].start |
24592.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].end |
24594.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].text |
那七月十五號呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].start |
24594.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].end |
24596.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].text |
也可以給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].start |
24596.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].end |
24598.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].text |
提供一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].start |
24598.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].end |
24600.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].text |
這半年實施以來的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].start |
24600.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].end |
24602.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].text |
延期報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].start |
24602.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].end |
24604.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].text |
那早上聽到國教署教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].start |
24604.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].end |
24606.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].text |
也已經在七月七號八號的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].start |
24606.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].end |
24608.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].text |
全國教育局處長會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].start |
24608.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].end |
24610.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].text |
也都有去提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].start |
24610.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].end |
24612.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].text |
所以我不曉得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].start |
24612.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].end |
24614.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].text |
我們之前提的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].start |
24614.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].end |
24616.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].text |
我們還在眼巴巴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].start |
24616.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].end |
24618.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].text |
要等著 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].start |
24618.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].end |
24620.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].text |
看這一些分析報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].start |
24620.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].end |
24622.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].text |
要看到這一些有關相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].start |
24622.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].end |
24624.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].text |
教師輔導管教辦法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].start |
24624.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].end |
24626.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].text |
一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].start |
24626.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].end |
24628.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].text |
或者是我們老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].start |
24628.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].end |
24630.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].text |
一個救濟制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].start |
24630.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].end |
24632.63 |
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結果現在突然 |
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跑出來一個說 |
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要根據立法院的 |
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24638.63 |
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職權刑事法第六十二條 |
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24638.63 |
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來去做 |
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24642.63 |
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這樣的一個更正 |
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或廢止 |
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24646.63 |
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那它就會牽涉到所謂的 |
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24646.63 |
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那到底真的是因為 |
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有違法抵觸嗎 |
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那也很想聽聽看 |
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就是教育部法制 |
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單位這邊 |
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又或者是法務部這邊 |
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24660.63 |
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對這樣的一個看法 |
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24660.63 |
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24662.63 |
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如果在質詢當中 |
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24662.63 |
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24664.63 |
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已經很明確的表達說 |
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24664.63 |
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並無抵觸 |
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24666.63 |
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24668.63 |
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違法的部分 |
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24668.63 |
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24670.63 |
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那我就是不太曉得說 |
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24670.63 |
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24672.63 |
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我們等一下要表決 |
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24672.63 |
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24674.63 |
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不知道是什麼樣的一個狀態 |
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24674.63 |
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24676.63 |
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到底一能不能夠 |
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24676.63 |
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24678.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].text |
表決 |
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24678.63 |
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24680.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].text |
二那表決之後它的效果 |
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24680.63 |
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24682.63 |
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又是如何 |
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24682.63 |
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24684.63 |
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所以這個部分我也想說 |
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24684.63 |
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24686.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].text |
想聽一聽教育部這邊 |
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24686.63 |
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24688.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].text |
再給我們做一個說明 |
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24688.63 |
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24690.63 |
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謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].start |
24691 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].end |
24693 |
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好 財政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].start |
24692.65 |
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24694.65 |
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主席好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].start |
24694.65 |
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24696.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].text |
針對這個提案 |
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24696.65 |
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24698.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].text |
在這裡做個說明 |
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24698.65 |
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24700.65 |
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因為事實上我們已經辦了好幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].start |
24700.65 |
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24702.65 |
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有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].start |
24702.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].end |
24704.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].text |
校事會議的一些質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].start |
24704.65 |
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24706.65 |
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那有很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].start |
24706.65 |
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24708.65 |
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也提出很多的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].start |
24708.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].end |
24710.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].text |
看法 |
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24710.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].end |
24712.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].text |
我們都可以從這個質詢當中 |
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24712.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].end |
24714.65 |
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發現其實有很多瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].start |
24714.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].end |
24716.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].text |
然後造成老師身心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].start |
24716.65 |
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24718.65 |
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身心受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].start |
24718.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].end |
24720.65 |
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那我在這裡是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].start |
24720.65 |
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24722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].text |
要建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].start |
24722.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].end |
24724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].text |
譬如說我曾經就是有執行過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].start |
24724.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].end |
24726.65 |
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老師因為他在聯絡部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].start |
24726.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].end |
24728.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].text |
加了一計畫之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].start |
24728.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].end |
24730.65 |
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就受了四個月的一個濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].start |
24730.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].end |
24732.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].text |
讓老師身心疲乏 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].start |
24732.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].end |
24734.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].text |
那像 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].start |
24734.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].end |
24736.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].text |
像這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].start |
24736.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].end |
24738.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].text |
案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].start |
24738.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].end |
24740.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].text |
我們也有提出一個辦法來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].start |
24740.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].end |
24742.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].text |
你要如何來遏止 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].start |
24742.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].end |
24744.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].text |
這樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].start |
24744.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].end |
24746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].text |
能夠盡量讓校長還有老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].start |
24746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].end |
24748.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].text |
不要第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].start |
24748.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].end |
24750.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].text |
就受傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].start |
24750.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].end |
24752.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].text |
我也提供說我們可以建立一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].start |
24752.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].end |
24754.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].text |
執行委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].start |
24754.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].end |
24756.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].text |
讓這個濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].start |
24756.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].end |
24758.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].text |
不要第一時間就進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].start |
24758.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].end |
24760.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].text |
學校來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].start |
24760.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].end |
24762.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].text |
讓學校老師校長都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].start |
24762.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].end |
24764.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].text |
我被起訴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].start |
24764.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].end |
24766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].text |
那種心情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].start |
24766.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].end |
24768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].text |
而且他還會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].start |
24768.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].end |
24770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].text |
這是一個壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].start |
24770.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].end |
24772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].text |
那我覺得老師受傷就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].start |
24772.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].end |
24774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].text |
影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].start |
24774.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].end |
24776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].text |
孩子的一個受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].start |
24776.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].end |
24778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].text |
所以在這裡就要建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].start |
24778.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].end |
24780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].text |
因為我們已經聯繫做了三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].start |
24780.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].end |
24782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].text |
的相關的校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].start |
24782.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].end |
24784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].text |
的一個質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].start |
24784.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].end |
24786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].text |
那我看每一次來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].start |
24786.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].end |
24788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].start |
24788.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].end |
24790.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].text |
張廖次長來的時候就聽聽聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].start |
24790.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].end |
24792.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].text |
然後就跟那個國家署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].start |
24792.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].end |
24794.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].text |
講說這個記起來是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].start |
24794.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].end |
24796.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].text |
既然都有聽然後都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].start |
24796.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].end |
24798.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].text |
在記那是不是針對很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].start |
24798.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].end |
24800.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].text |
委員提出的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].start |
24800.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].end |
24802.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].text |
看法或者是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].start |
24802.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].end |
24804.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].text |
覺得應該要改善的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].start |
24804.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].end |
24806.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].text |
是不是教育部也要針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].start |
24806.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].end |
24808.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].text |
委員提出來的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].start |
24808.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].end |
24810.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].text |
看法你們也是要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].start |
24810.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].end |
24812.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].text |
一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].start |
24812.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].end |
24814.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].text |
在這裡我做這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].start |
24814.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].end |
24816.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].text |
一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].start |
24821.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].end |
24823.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].text |
好請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].start |
24824.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].end |
24826.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].text |
我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].start |
24826.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].end |
24828.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].text |
我很認真的去把母法教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].start |
24828.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].end |
24830.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].text |
拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].start |
24830.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].end |
24832.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].text |
不只是第29條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].start |
24832.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].end |
24834.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].text |
就是對於這個教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].start |
24834.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].end |
24836.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].text |
解聘不續聘停聘或自選程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].start |
24836.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].end |
24838.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].text |
相關辦法的29條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].start |
24838.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].end |
24840.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].text |
的母法授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].start |
24840.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].end |
24842.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].text |
我更嚴謹的把教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].start |
24842.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].end |
24844.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].text |
第4章整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].start |
24844.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].end |
24846.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].text |
從第14條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].start |
24846.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].end |
24848.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].text |
一直到30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].start |
24848.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].end |
24850.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].text |
我們當年在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].start |
24850.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].end |
24852.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].text |
2019年立法院在修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].start |
24852.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].end |
24854.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].text |
教師法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].start |
24854.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].end |
24856.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].text |
擔心當時的教評 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].start |
24856.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].end |
24858.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].text |
會失失相互 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].start |
24858.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].end |
24860.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].text |
然後沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].start |
24860.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].end |
24862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].text |
對於老師確實有不適任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].start |
24862.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].end |
24864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].text |
的狀況來加以處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].start |
24864.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].end |
24866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].text |
所以大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].start |
24866.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].end |
24868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].text |
那一屆的立法院是花了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].start |
24868.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].end |
24870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].text |
很多次的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].start |
24870.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].end |
24872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].text |
去修正了現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].start |
24872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].end |
24874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].text |
的教師法第4章 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].start |
24874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].end |
24876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].text |
的完整條文我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].start |
24876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].end |
24878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].text |
了14條到30條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].start |
24878.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].end |
24880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].text |
那現在呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].start |
24880.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].end |
24882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].text |
我認為立法、修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].start |
24882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].end |
24884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].text |
或者是責成行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].start |
24884.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].end |
24886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].text |
做行政命令的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].start |
24886.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].end |
24888.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].text |
都需要負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].start |
24889.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].end |
24891.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].start |
24891.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].end |
24893.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].text |
昭偉所提的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].start |
24893.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].end |
24895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].text |
就近似要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].start |
24895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].end |
24897.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].text |
教育部修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].start |
24897.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].end |
24899.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].text |
該辦法的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].start |
24899.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].end |
24901.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].text |
說穿了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].start |
24901.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].end |
24903.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].text |
就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].start |
24903.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].end |
24905.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].text |
修什麼你自己想 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].start |
24905.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].end |
24907.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].text |
修什麼你自己看著辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].start |
24908.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].end |
24910.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].text |
修什麼我叫你修你就修就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].start |
24910.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].end |
24912.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].text |
偏偏 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].start |
24912.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].end |
24914.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].text |
要委員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].start |
24914.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].end |
24916.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].text |
指出你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].start |
24916.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].end |
24918.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].text |
教師法14條有抵觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].start |
24918.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].end |
24920.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].text |
16條有抵觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].start |
24920.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].end |
24922.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].text |
18條有抵觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].start |
24922.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].end |
24924.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].text |
29條抵觸了第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].start |
24924.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].end |
24926.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].text |
或是第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].start |
24927.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].end |
24929.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].text |
這些指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].start |
24929.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].end |
24931.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].text |
立委要求教育部修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].start |
24931.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].end |
24933.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].text |
行政命令你至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].start |
24933.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].end |
24935.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].text |
OK我退萬不言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].start |
24935.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].end |
24937.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].text |
因為本來行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].start |
24937.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].end |
24939.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].text |
就是行政院的權限 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].start |
24939.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].end |
24941.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].text |
立委縱使 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].start |
24941.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].end |
24943.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].text |
不需要月組帶袍到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].start |
24943.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].end |
24945.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].text |
請教育部把 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].start |
24945.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].end |
24947.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].text |
行政命令該怎麼修該怎麼修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].start |
24947.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].end |
24949.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].text |
立委也許不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].start |
24949.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].end |
24951.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].text |
做到這因為這也不是立委的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].start |
24951.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].end |
24953.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].text |
權限但是至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].start |
24953.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].end |
24955.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].text |
立委要負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].start |
24955.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].end |
24957.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].text |
我請你修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].start |
24957.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].end |
24959.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].text |
因為你違反了教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].start |
24959.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].end |
24961.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].text |
的第幾條第幾項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].start |
24962.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].end |
24964.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].text |
第幾款 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].start |
24964.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].end |
24966.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].text |
這是負責任的立法院該做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].start |
24968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].end |
24970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].text |
而不是這麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].start |
24970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].end |
24972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].text |
漫不經心反正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].start |
24972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].end |
24974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].text |
我看不順眼或者是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].start |
24974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].end |
24976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].text |
認為你就是要修就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].start |
24977.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].end |
24979.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].text |
那我覺得我也不曉得我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].start |
24979.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].end |
24981.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].text |
議事人員很辛苦啊今天怎麼去登載 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].start |
24981.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].end |
24983.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].text |
這樣子的一個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].start |
24983.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].end |
24985.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].text |
內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].start |
24985.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].end |
24987.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].text |
所以大家做事情都要負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].start |
24987.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].end |
24989.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].text |
我們立法委員在修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].start |
24989.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].end |
24991.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].text |
立法的時候我們也要負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].start |
24991.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].end |
24993.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].text |
我們要提出我們對應的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].start |
24994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].end |
24998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].text |
那現在要求立法行政院修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].start |
24998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].end |
25002.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].text |
行政命令的立委提不出任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].start |
25003.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].end |
25009.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].text |
違逆母法抵觸母法的任何相次都提不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].start |
25008.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].end |
25010.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].text |
就一個我叫你修你就修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].start |
25013.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].end |
25015.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].text |
這個立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].start |
25015.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].end |
25017.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].text |
太無限擴張權力了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].start |
25018.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].end |
25024.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].text |
這個立法院也太自我的去踐踏了自己該履行的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].start |
25025.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].end |
25027.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].text |
我們再一次的懇求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].start |
25027.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].end |
25030.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].text |
提案的羅昭偉連署的幾位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].start |
25030.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].end |
25033.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].text |
你好歹指出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].start |
25033.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].end |
25036.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].text |
這一個之前辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].start |
25036.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].end |
25042.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].text |
從第一條到最後我現在看到的第62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].start |
25042.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].end |
25045.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].text |
哪一條抵觸母法該修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].start |
25045.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].end |
25047.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].text |
你至少把人家mark出來吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].start |
25049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].end |
25052.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].text |
你至少把抵觸母法的項目內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].start |
25053.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].end |
25055.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].text |
清楚說明吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].start |
25055.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].end |
25058.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].text |
否則我覺得今天在這裡講到半夜12點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].start |
25058.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].end |
25061.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].text |
還在做這種龜打牆 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].start |
25061.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].end |
25063.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].text |
因為提案的委員不負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].start |
25065.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].end |
25067.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].text |
所以與其 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].start |
25067.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].end |
25070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].text |
還在這邊直接這樣討論下去沒有聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].start |
25070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].end |
25073.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].text |
我真的建議主席應當具體的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].start |
25074.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].end |
25078.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].text |
這整個62條文裡頭的之前辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].start |
25078.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].end |
25080.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].text |
你認為哪一條哪一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].start |
25080.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].end |
25083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].text |
違反了教師法的哪一條哪一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].start |
25083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].end |
25085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].text |
這個才明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].start |
25085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].end |
25087.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].text |
你要教育部去修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].start |
25087.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].end |
25089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].text |
人家也才能夠聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].start |
25091.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].end |
25094.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].text |
否則你像空白的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].start |
25094.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].end |
25097.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].text |
那教育部也可以空白的交回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].start |
25097.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].end |
25100.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].text |
因為提案委員沒有講清楚你到底要我修哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].start |
25101.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].end |
25106.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].text |
我們聽了這麼多位委員大家表達的意見都非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].start |
25106.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].end |
25109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].text |
那為什麼提案委員就是迴避了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].start |
25109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].end |
25112.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].text |
自己該履行的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].start |
25113.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].end |
25115.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].text |
到底違反了魔法哪一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].start |
25115.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].end |
25118.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].text |
這個之前辦法哪一條哪一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].start |
25118.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].end |
25120.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].text |
是有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].start |
25120.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].end |
25122.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].text |
你真的拜託你要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].start |
25125.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].end |
25127.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].text |
我認為這是提案委員的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].start |
25128.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].end |
25132.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].text |
你指不出來你要教育部去修什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].start |
25135 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].end |
25137 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].text |
請提案委員要善盡自己立委的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].start |
25144.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].end |
25145.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].start |
25145.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].end |
25148.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].text |
我不確定我們等一下會得到什麼樣的會議結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].start |
25148.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].end |
25153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].text |
但如果按照剛剛蔡村仇委員你的發言邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].start |
25153.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].end |
25155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].text |
那我是不是就公開建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].start |
25155.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].end |
25159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].text |
如果提案人羅廷瑋委員只敢用嘴巴說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].start |
25159.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].end |
25161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].text |
不願意在提案上增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].start |
25161.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].end |
25164.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].text |
他認為教育部哪裡違反了魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].start |
25164.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].end |
25166.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].text |
哪裡牴觸了魔法的說明文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].start |
25166.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].end |
25169.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].text |
如果羅廷瑋委員不肯加 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].start |
25169.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].end |
25171.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].text |
那是不是蔡村仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].start |
25171.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].end |
25173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].text |
你就把你剛剛說的那麼一大段 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].start |
25173.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].end |
25177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].text |
甚至你認為要廢除校事會議的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].start |
25177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].end |
25179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].text |
你們就勇敢的寫在提案裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].start |
25179.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].end |
25183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].text |
讓教育部知道原來這個是羅廷瑋委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].start |
25183.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].end |
25185.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].text |
葉元智委員蔡村仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].start |
25185.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].end |
25189.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].text |
羅志強委員的提案就是希望廢除校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].start |
25189.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].end |
25191.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].text |
如果這是你們最終的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].start |
25191.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].end |
25195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].text |
這樣也比較可以完成你們的許願 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].start |
25195.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].end |
25198.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].text |
否則真的就會像剛剛我們所提醒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].start |
25198.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].end |
25201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].text |
當你現在考卷改都不改 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].start |
25201.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].end |
25203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].text |
你就丟回去叫人家重寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].start |
25203.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].end |
25205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].text |
你根本也難以預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].start |
25205.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].end |
25207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].text |
他又會寫什麼交回來給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].start |
25207.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].end |
25209.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].text |
而你到底會不會滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].start |
25210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].end |
25212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].text |
接下來我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].start |
25212.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].end |
25214.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].text |
我猜想在今天會議結束之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].start |
25214.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].end |
25217.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].text |
本黨今天所有在場發言提示 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].start |
25217.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].end |
25220.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].text |
關於這個提案非常荒謬的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].start |
25220.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].end |
25222.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].text |
可能又會被惡意的剪輯說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].start |
25222.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].end |
25224.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].text |
我們反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].start |
25224.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].end |
25226.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].text |
改革校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].start |
25226.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].end |
25228.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].text |
我們反對支持現場的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].start |
25228.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].end |
25230.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].text |
我要說我要先預告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].start |
25230.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].end |
25232.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].text |
這是一個非常惡意的指控 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].start |
25232.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].end |
25234.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].text |
我認為在立法院裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].start |
25234.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].end |
25238.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].text |
所有的討論都應該要好好的針對事情而討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].start |
25238.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].end |
25240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].text |
不是所有的事情你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].start |
25240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].end |
25242.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].text |
他現在不滿你的意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].start |
25242.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].end |
25244.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].text |
你就要全部廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].start |
25244.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].end |
25246.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].text |
如果你的提案是要全部廢除 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].start |
25246.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].end |
25248.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].text |
那我要提醒所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].start |
25248.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].end |
25250.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].text |
你們必須要回去修的是教師法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].start |
25250.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].end |
25254.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].text |
當年108年修法的第29條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].start |
25254.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].end |
25256.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].text |
而不是在這個行政辦法上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].start |
25256.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].end |
25258.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].text |
提出一個莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].start |
25258.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].end |
25261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].text |
不願意負責任說明理由的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].start |
25261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].end |
25263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].text |
就要教育部去做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].start |
25263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].end |
25265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].text |
讓你們滿意的地步 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].start |
25265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].end |
25268.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].text |
我認為這也不是現在的教育現場所要看見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].start |
25268.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].end |
25270.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].text |
在今天早上的質詢當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].start |
25270.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].end |
25272.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].text |
我們也看到羅庭薇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].start |
25272.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].end |
25274.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].text |
你不只提了老師的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].start |
25274.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].end |
25276.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].text |
你邀請了現場的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].start |
25276.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].end |
25278.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].text |
但你不要忘記了你自己也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].start |
25278.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].end |
25280.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].text |
學生的權益必須要被照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].start |
25280.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].end |
25282.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].text |
家長的權益也要被理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].start |
25282.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].end |
25286.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].text |
親師生共同相處的學校第一線現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].start |
25286.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].end |
25288.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].text |
需要更完整的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].start |
25288.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].end |
25290.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].text |
但如果你心中想的所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].start |
25290.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].end |
25293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].text |
更完整的配套是全面的廢除教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].start |
25293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].end |
25295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].text |
如果你有這樣的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].start |
25295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].end |
25298.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].text |
我們認為你有言論免責權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].start |
25298.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].end |
25299.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].text |
你有自由的言論權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].start |
25299.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].end |
25301.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].text |
你可以用力的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].start |
25301.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].end |
25304.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].text |
每一個人都可以為自己的主張負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].start |
25304.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].end |
25305.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].text |
而不是提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].start |
25305.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].end |
25308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].text |
不願意說明不敢說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].start |
25308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].end |
25310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].text |
不敢說清楚的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].start |
25310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].end |
25313.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].text |
就要叫教育部回去重新更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].start |
25313.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].end |
25316.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].text |
所以我再次提醒所有的提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].start |
25316.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].end |
25318.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].text |
如果你們真的覺得自己講的非常有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].start |
25318.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].end |
25322.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].text |
而且你也堅持這個事情要往下這樣做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].start |
25322.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].end |
25324.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].text |
就請你勇敢的寫在提案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].start |
25324.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].end |
25326.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].text |
未來納入公報 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].start |
25326.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].end |
25329.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].text |
請你為你自己的言論負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].start |
25329.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].end |
25331.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].text |
大家都看得非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].start |
25336.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].end |
25339.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].text |
在這裡要回覆一下前陪理委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].start |
25339.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].end |
25344.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].text |
我剛剛連一句廢除教師會議的話都沒有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].start |
25344.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].end |
25346.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].text |
所以不要扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].start |
25346.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].end |
25350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].text |
那我覺得教師會議我也沒有贊成要廢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].start |
25350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].end |
25353.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].text |
但是我們總是這種政策不能往回走 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].start |
25353.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].end |
25355.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].text |
那既然都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].start |
25355.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].end |
25357.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].text |
已經建立了設立了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].start |
25357.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].end |
25359.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].text |
當然有很多的一個瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].start |
25359.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].end |
25361.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].text |
這也不是我一個人講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].start |
25361.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].end |
25363.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].text |
我們開了好幾次的教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].start |
25363.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].end |
25366.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].text |
已經每一個委員幾乎都有針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].start |
25366.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].end |
25369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].text |
教師會議裡面的一些一些缺點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].start |
25369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].end |
25371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].text |
提出一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].start |
25371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].end |
25373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].text |
那我是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].start |
25373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].end |
25378.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].text |
針對有一些對於老師不公平的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].start |
25378.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].end |
25381.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].text |
或是說對老師比較有傷害性的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].start |
25381.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].end |
25387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].text |
一些事例呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].start |
25387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].end |
25389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].text |
我們來做一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].start |
25389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].end |
25393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].text |
至於我覺得我們這個教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].start |
25393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].end |
25394.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].text |
既然是訂了以後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].start |
25394.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].end |
25396.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].text |
讓他越走越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].start |
25396.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].end |
25400.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].text |
然後也不要讓老師受傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].start |
25400.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].end |
25402.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].text |
該保障的要保障對於學生的潛意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].start |
25402.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].end |
25404.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].text |
對老師的潛意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].start |
25404.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].end |
25406.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].text |
還有家長他希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].start |
25406.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].end |
25410.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].text |
他對於學生在學校裡面應該受的哪些照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].start |
25410.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].end |
25413.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].text |
我覺得我們都可以考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].start |
25413.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].end |
25416.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].text |
但是我們並沒有說我們要廢除那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].start |
25416.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].end |
25418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].text |
廢除教師會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].start |
25418.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].end |
25423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].text |
請裴禮委員跟你解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].start |
25429.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].end |
25431.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].text |
請歸巡委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].start |
25432.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].end |
25434.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].text |
在這裡再講清楚一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].start |
25434.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].end |
25436.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].text |
其實我們百分之百 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].start |
25436.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].end |
25440.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].text |
支持減輕教師會議對於現場的老師的一個內號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].start |
25440.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].end |
25446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].text |
但是根據立法院職權行使法第62條審查的一個精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].start |
25446.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].end |
25448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].text |
我想大家應該都非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].start |
25448.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].end |
25450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].text |
這是立法委員的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].start |
25450.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].end |
25453.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].text |
立法院如果認為行政命令有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].start |
25453.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].end |
25456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].text |
那要求這個教育部要更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].start |
25456.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].end |
25458.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].text |
那必須要明確的指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].start |
25458.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].end |
25460.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].text |
到底是哪一個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].start |
25460.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].end |
25463.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].text |
到底是哪一個部分違反了法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].start |
25463.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].end |
25466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].text |
或者是違反了所謂的這個魔法的授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].start |
25466.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].end |
25468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].text |
那像這樣子的一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].start |
25468.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].end |
25470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].text |
沒有把任何的條字寫在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].start |
25470.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].end |
25473.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].text |
其實是除了粗糙以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].start |
25473.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].end |
25475.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].text |
其實也是蠻不負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].start |
25475.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].end |
25477.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].text |
而且感覺就像是個空拋彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].start |
25477.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].end |
25481.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].text |
那上面是完全沒有列出條文的對照表 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].start |
25481.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].end |
25485.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].text |
那另外就是我們看到就是提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].start |
25485.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].end |
25486.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].text |
如果您是不滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].start |
25486.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].end |
25488.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].text |
到底是不滿哪一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].start |
25488.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].end |
25491.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].text |
然後要這個教育部回去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].start |
25491.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].end |
25495.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].text |
那這個做法有點像是剛剛其實培育委員也講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].start |
25495.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].end |
25498.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].text |
就是有點像是改考卷的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].start |
25498.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].end |
25500.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].text |
直接在考卷上直接打一個大XX |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].start |
25500.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].end |
25502.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].text |
也不跟他講說到底錯在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].start |
25502.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].end |
25504.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].text |
回去要改在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].start |
25504.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].end |
25507.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].text |
你要訂正你要訂正十次還是要訂正幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].start |
25507.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].end |
25509.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].text |
到底要訂正在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].start |
25509.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].end |
25511.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].text |
還是哪一個步驟算錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].start |
25511.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].end |
25514.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].text |
那我想這樣子的一個比較模糊的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].start |
25514.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].end |
25516.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].text |
其實真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].start |
25516.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].end |
25519.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].text |
我不曉得到底今天我們坐在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].start |
25519.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].end |
25522.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].text |
每一個委員其實都表達得非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].start |
25522.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].end |
25525.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].text |
那我想這個部分也是再次的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].start |
25525.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].end |
25526.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].text |
就是提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].start |
25526.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].end |
25531.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].text |
我們如果針對所謂的這樣子的一個要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].start |
25531.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].end |
25534.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].text |
到底要修正到哪一個步驟 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].start |
25534.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].end |
25537.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].text |
到底是要哪一個條文要來修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].start |
25537.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].end |
25539.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].text |
這個一定要寫得清楚明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].start |
25539.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].end |
25540.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].start |
25545.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].end |
25546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].text |
還有委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].start |
25557.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].end |
25558.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].start |
25561.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].end |
25563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].text |
我們來處理這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].start |
25565.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].end |
25566.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].start |
25566.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].end |
25567.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].text |
先回應一下委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].start |
25567.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].end |
25568.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].text |
跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].start |
25570.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].end |
25571.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].start |
25571.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].end |
25573.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].text |
非常感謝吳思達委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].start |
25573.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].end |
25577.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].text |
剛剛有提到行政命令是行政機關的主要權責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].start |
25577.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].end |
25579.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].text |
立法委員不應該越取代跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].start |
25579.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].end |
25581.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].text |
所以我覺得還是尊重一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].start |
25581.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].end |
25584.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].text |
我們現場主管機關有沒有要再發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].start |
25593.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].end |
25595.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].text |
好 主管機關沒意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].start |
25595.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].end |
25597.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].text |
那我們都是辦理了公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].start |
25597.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].end |
25599.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].text |
然後專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].start |
25599.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].end |
25601.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].text |
然後詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].start |
25601.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].end |
25603.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].text |
大家也都交流了很多的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].start |
25603.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].end |
25606.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].text |
現場不管是公聽會老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].start |
25606.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].end |
25609.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].text |
第一線全教總他們相關的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].start |
25609.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].end |
25611.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].text |
我相信你們應該也都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].start |
25611.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].end |
25614.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].text |
他們的一個相關條文需要哪裡更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].start |
25614.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].end |
25617.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].text |
那再來再透過每一次的詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].start |
25617.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].end |
25619.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].text |
很多的委員都有給予意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].start |
25619.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].end |
25621.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].text |
希望你們都可以納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].start |
25621.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].end |
25623.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].text |
所以在今天很明確的提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].start |
25623.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].end |
25625.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].text |
我們的第一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].start |
25625.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].end |
25629.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].text |
就是希望能夠請教一部修正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].start |
25630.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].end |
25632.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].text |
再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].start |
25632.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].end |
25635.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].text |
依立法委員職權刑事法第62條來規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].start |
25635.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].end |
25638.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].text |
當然有委員特別關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].start |
25638.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].end |
25640.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].text |
是不是有違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].start |
25640.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].end |
25643.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].text |
所以要求要有違反母法的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].start |
25643.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].end |
25644.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].text |
才可以來修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].start |
25644.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].end |
25647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].text |
我們已經多次再次的跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].start |
25647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].end |
25650.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].text |
95年有相關的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].start |
25651.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].end |
25653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].text |
教育文化委員會所做出的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].start |
25653.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].end |
25655.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].text |
當時是用罔顧名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].start |
25655.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].end |
25657.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].text |
以及實際的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].start |
25657.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].end |
25658.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].text |
故予以退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].start |
25659.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].end |
25660.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].text |
所以這是有潛力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].start |
25660.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].end |
25662.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].text |
並不是一定要違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].start |
25662.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].end |
25665.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].text |
而是跟實際的操作狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].start |
25665.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].end |
25668.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].text |
有實際的缺失 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].start |
25668.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].end |
25670.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].text |
希望能夠與退回修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].start |
25670.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].end |
25672.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].text |
再重新立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].start |
25672.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].end |
25675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].text |
那另外也調出了相關的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].start |
25675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].end |
25676.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].text |
94年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].start |
25677.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].end |
25679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].text |
我們在11月24號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].start |
25679.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].end |
25682.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].text |
舉行第11次全體委員會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].start |
25682.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].end |
25685.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].text |
當時是由洪秀柱擔任主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].start |
25685.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].end |
25688.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].text |
那這個部分他們也是在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].start |
25688.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].end |
25692.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].text |
教師申訴評議委員會組織及評議準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].start |
25692.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].end |
25694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].text |
這樣的一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].start |
25694.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].end |
25697.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].text |
那他們到那個時候下的結論也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].start |
25697.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].end |
25700.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].text |
為改善目前教師申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].start |
25700.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].end |
25703.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].text |
實際運作的缺失 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].start |
25703.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].end |
25706.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].text |
所以請教育部重新斟酌研擬後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].start |
25706.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].end |
25708.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].text |
再送本院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].start |
25708.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].end |
25711.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].text |
也都沒有提到一定要逾越母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].start |
25711.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].end |
25714.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].text |
那我想這個部分也請各位委員能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].start |
25714.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].end |
25717.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].text |
參考一下我所提出的潛力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].start |
25717.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].end |
25720.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].text |
他是可以依照潛力這樣子來處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].start |
25720.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].end |
25724.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].text |
那最後我想所有的委員對我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].start |
25724.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].end |
25725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].text |
都很有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].start |
25725.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].end |
25728.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].text |
我也非常感謝虛心指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].start |
25728.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].end |
25731.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].text |
那是不是也請委員直接提出你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].start |
25731.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].end |
25734.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].text |
那不要告訴別的委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].start |
25734.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].end |
25736.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].text |
你都給人家考卷打XX |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].start |
25736.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].end |
25737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].text |
直接不看 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].start |
25737.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].end |
25740.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].text |
那我想我們都已經做答了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].start |
25740.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].end |
25742.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].text |
您認為我們不及格 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].start |
25742.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].end |
25744.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].text |
那是不是也請民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].start |
25744.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].end |
25745.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].text |
也請你做答 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].start |
25745.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].end |
25748.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].text |
也請你在你的考卷寫上你的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].start |
25748.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].end |
25750.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].text |
那來告訴大家你的提案是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].start |
25750.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].end |
25751.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].text |
我們再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].start |
25751.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].end |
25753.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].text |
不要只是批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].start |
25753.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].end |
25756.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].text |
那都沒有辦法把這個事情持續的推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].start |
25756.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].end |
25758.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].text |
以上簡單的回憶 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].start |
25758.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].end |
25760.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].text |
接下來我們就要來處理提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].start |
25761.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].end |
25762.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].text |
第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].start |
25762.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].end |
25763.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].text |
請提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].start |
25763.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].end |
25764.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].text |
那我們剛剛都已經說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].start |
25764.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].end |
25767.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].text |
機關代表也多次詢問沒有表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].start |
25767.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].end |
25770.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].text |
那所以我們現在要來處理提案一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].start |
25770.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].end |
25773.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].text |
那本案是否照案通過或者要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].start |
25775.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].end |
25776.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].text |
請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].start |
25777.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].end |
25778.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].text |
有沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].start |
25778.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].end |
25780.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].text |
沒有意義的話我們要照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].start |
25781.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].end |
25782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].text |
有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].start |
25783.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].end |
25784.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].text |
有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].start |
25784.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].end |
25785.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].start |
25785.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].end |
25786.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].text |
有委員提出保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].start |
25788.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].end |
25789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].start |
25789.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].end |
25790.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].text |
有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].start |
25808.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].end |
25809.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].text |
我們休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].start |
25945.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].end |
25947.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].text |
好 我們現在正式開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].start |
25961.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].end |
25963.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].text |
好 現在處理第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].start |
25963.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].end |
25965.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].text |
那剛剛有委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].start |
25966.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].end |
25967.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].text |
針對第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].start |
25968.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].end |
25970.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].text |
保留送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].start |
25970.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].end |
25971.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].text |
請問有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].start |
25973.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].end |
25974.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].text |
好 有意義表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].start |
25977.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].end |
25978.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].text |
來 請清點人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].start |
25983.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].end |
25985.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].text |
好 出席委員八位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].start |
25987.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].end |
25988.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].text |
針對提案第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].start |
25989.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].end |
25991.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].text |
那因為沒有其他委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].start |
25991.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].end |
25992.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].text |
我們就只有這第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].start |
25993.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].end |
25994.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].text |
那請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].start |
25994.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].end |
25996.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].text |
有委員提案保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].start |
25996.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].end |
25999.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].text |
支持保留送院會處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].start |
25999.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].end |
26000.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].text |
請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].start |
26006.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].end |
26008.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].text |
主席你真的是愛怎麼自己家就怎麼家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].start |
26009.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].end |
26010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].text |
還有我想要主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].start |
26010.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].end |
26011.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].text |
為什麼現場有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].start |
26011.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].end |
26013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].text |
不知道哪一個委員辦公室的助理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].start |
26013.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].end |
26014.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].text |
一直在拍個別委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].start |
26014.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].end |
26016.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].text |
我們明明已經有Ivod了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].start |
26016.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].end |
26018.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].text |
我可不可以主張確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].start |
26018.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].end |
26022.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].text |
因為剛剛有委員一直在拍我們的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].start |
26022.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].end |
26023.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].text |
不知道怎麼回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].start |
26028.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].end |
26029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].text |
來 請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].start |
26029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].end |
26031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].text |
所以我想要請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].start |
26031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].end |
26032.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].text |
等一下 主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].start |
26032.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].end |
26033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].text |
主席我可以發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].start |
26033.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].end |
26035.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].text |
保留送院會處理的請表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].start |
26036.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].end |
26038.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].text |
主席你可不可以讓我們把話講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].start |
26038.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].end |
26041.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].text |
你現在就打算當一個蠻恨獨裁的主席嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].start |
26041.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].end |
26043.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].text |
就你自己說了算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].start |
26043.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].end |
26045.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].text |
所有委員的發言都不用參考跟討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].start |
26045.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].end |
26047.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].text |
如果今天國民黨委員這麼在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].start |
26047.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].end |
26048.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].text |
請問有人到了現場嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].start |
26048.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].end |
26049.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].start |
26049.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].end |
26050.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].text |
我們可不可以把你剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].start |
26050.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].end |
26052.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].text |
你突然保留送院會是怎麼回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].start |
26053.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].end |
26055.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].text |
所以是主席你自己說了算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].start |
26055.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].end |
26057.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].text |
麻煩請剛剛提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].start |
26057.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].end |
26059.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].text |
再次說明你的提案沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].start |
26063.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].end |
26066.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].text |
不好意思 我是說處理本提案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].start |
26066.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].end |
26068.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].text |
你的提議是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].start |
26071.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].end |
26073.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].text |
我們的提議是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].start |
26073.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].end |
26075.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].text |
請提案委員宰名 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].start |
26075.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].end |
26079.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].text |
有關現在在審議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].start |
26079.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].end |
26082.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].text |
高級中等以下學校教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].start |
26082.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].end |
26085.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].text |
解聘不續聘停聘或諮詢辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].start |
26085.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].end |
26087.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].text |
請提案委員指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].start |
26087.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].end |
26090.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].text |
哪些款項條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].start |
26090.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].end |
26094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].text |
違逆了母法教師法29條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].start |
26094.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].end |
26098.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].text |
我們具體要求提案委員要宰名 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].start |
26098.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].end |
26099.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].text |
重新提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].start |
26099.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].end |
26102.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].text |
否則這是一個不明不白 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].start |
26102.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].end |
26105.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].text |
這是一個完全不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].start |
26107.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].end |
26109.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].text |
完全不聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].start |
26109.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].end |
26112.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].text |
這是一個空白的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].start |
26113.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].end |
26116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].text |
所以對於這樣完全空白的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].start |
26116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].end |
26118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].text |
我們的具體要求是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].start |
26118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].end |
26122.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].text |
請提案委員重新提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].start |
26122.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].end |
26126.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].text |
針對違逆母法之處為哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].start |
26126.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].end |
26128.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].text |
宰名之後再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].start |
26128.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].end |
26130.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].text |
這樣才負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].start |
26130.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].end |
26133.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].text |
我們不能讓這種空白 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].start |
26133.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].end |
26134.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].text |
授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].start |
26134.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].end |
26135.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].text |
我不知道怎麼形容 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].start |
26135.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].end |
26138.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].text |
就是空白的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].start |
26138.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].end |
26140.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].text |
粗枝濫造的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].start |
26141.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].end |
26143.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].text |
這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].start |
26143.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].end |
26145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].text |
提案的委員自己不覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].start |
26145.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].end |
26147.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].text |
自己寫這個提案很心虛嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].start |
26147.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].end |
26149.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].text |
所以我具體請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].start |
26149.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].end |
26151.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].text |
針對這個辦法裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].start |
26151.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].end |
26154.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].text |
哪些條文跟母法底處 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].start |
26155.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].end |
26157.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].text |
回到職權行使法62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].start |
26157.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].end |
26159.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].text |
你應當宰名 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].start |
26159.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].end |
26162.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].text |
這才是一個合宜的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].start |
26162.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].end |
26164.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].text |
否則我們無從討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].start |
26165.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].end |
26167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].text |
你就算送到院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].start |
26167.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].end |
26169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].text |
也是無從討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].start |
26169.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].end |
26171.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].text |
因為你是一個完全空白 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].start |
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不明不白的提案 |
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26178.98 |
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好 報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].start |
26178.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].end |
26180.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].text |
還是要請委員直接就 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].start |
26180.98 |
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26182.98 |
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針對我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].start |
26182.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].end |
26184.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].text |
直接來議事程序處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].start |
26184.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].end |
26187.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].text |
委員不應該是提出自己的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].start |
26187.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].end |
26189.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].text |
然後要求其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].start |
26189.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].end |
26191.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].text |
要來照你的模式來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].start |
26191.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].end |
26193.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].text |
我們是針對議事程序處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].start |
26193.98 |
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26195.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].text |
所以基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].start |
26195.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].end |
26197.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].text |
我們的提案已經寫出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].start |
26197.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].end |
26199.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].text |
如果您不滿意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].start |
26199.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].end |
26202.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].text |
您可以直接提出您自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].start |
26202.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].end |
26204.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].text |
但您不可以提出方案說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].start |
26204.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].end |
26206.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].text |
這個委員不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].start |
26206.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].end |
26208.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].text |
所以請他再改正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].start |
26208.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].end |
26210.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].text |
那這個部分我們沒辦法去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].start |
26210.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].end |
26213.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].text |
你議事程序沒辦法去要求其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].start |
26213.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].end |
26215.98 |
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而是要直接處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].start |
26215.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].end |
26216.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].text |
要照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].start |
26216.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].end |
26217.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].text |
還是修成通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].start |
26217.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].end |
26218.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].text |
還是要保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].start |
26218.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].end |
26220.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].text |
以上簡單跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].start |
26223.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].end |
26225.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].text |
您要要求教育部修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].start |
26225.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].end |
26229.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].text |
您就提出哪些部分教育部違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].start |
26229.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].end |
26232.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].text |
你寫出來有這麼困難嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].start |
26232.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].end |
26233.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].text |
如果你自己寫不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].start |
26233.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].end |
26236.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].text |
就是因為你沒有辦法說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].start |
26236.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].end |
26239.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].text |
因為他並沒有違逆母法之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].start |
26239.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].end |
26242.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].text |
您沒有辦法自圓其說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].start |
26242.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].end |
26245.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].text |
您沒有辦法自圓其說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].start |
26245.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].end |
26247.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].text |
您沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].start |
26247.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].end |
26249.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].text |
現在是2026年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].start |
26249.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].end |
26252.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].text |
現在是2026年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].start |
26252.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].end |
26254.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].text |
教育部重新斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].start |
26254.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].end |
26257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].text |
羅經緯教委您活在哪一個時空 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].start |
26257.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].end |
26259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].text |
決議的理由確實需要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].start |
26259.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].end |
26262.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].text |
罔顧民意之實際狀況予以退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].start |
26262.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].end |
26265.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].text |
這個是當時94年95年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].start |
26265.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].end |
26267.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].text |
他們並沒有寫到要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].start |
26267.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].end |
26269.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].text |
逾越母法為前提 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].start |
26269.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].end |
26271.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].text |
才可以退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].start |
26271.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].end |
26274.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].text |
要求教育部重新修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].start |
26274.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].end |
26276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].text |
主席我想要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].start |
26276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].end |
26280.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].text |
你現在犯了兩個非常大的法理上的錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].start |
26280.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].end |
26283.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].text |
但我想我們都是新科的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].start |
26283.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].end |
26285.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].text |
我們可以一起學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].start |
26285.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].end |
26287.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].text |
我就提出我們的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].start |
26287.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].end |
26289.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].text |
第一個你剛剛已經說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].start |
26289.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].end |
26290.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].text |
在你念的兩個版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].start |
26290.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].end |
26291.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].text |
20年前的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].start |
26291.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].end |
26293.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].text |
其實他們都很明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].start |
26293.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].end |
26295.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].text |
而且很勇敢的說出自己的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].start |
26295.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].end |
26298.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].text |
叫做背離民意等等等也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].start |
26298.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].end |
26300.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].text |
還有就是罔顧教師現場權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].start |
26300.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].end |
26302.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].text |
可是委員主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].start |
26302.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].end |
26304.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].text |
你看一下你自己的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].start |
26304.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].end |
26305.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].text |
你連民意兩個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].start |
26305.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].end |
26307.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].text |
或者是教訓權益什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].start |
26307.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].end |
26308.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].text |
你都不敢寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].start |
26308.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].end |
26310.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].text |
你就寫了一堆完全不知道說什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].start |
26310.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].end |
26312.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].text |
要不要我再念一次給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].start |
26312.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].end |
26314.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].text |
你認為有待修正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].start |
26314.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].end |
26316.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].text |
是誰認為有待修正呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].start |
26316.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].end |
26317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].text |
要修正哪些東西呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].start |
26317.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].end |
26319.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].text |
然後通知教育部更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].start |
26319.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].end |
26321.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].text |
所以吳思耀委員的提案的建議內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].start |
26321.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].end |
26323.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].text |
根據您的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].start |
26323.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].end |
26324.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].text |
我們要說的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].start |
26324.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].end |
26326.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].text |
請你認為有問題的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].start |
26326.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].end |
26328.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].text |
就寫出來放在提案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].start |
26328.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].end |
26331.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].text |
我們可以再來根據你所更正過的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].start |
26331.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].end |
26332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].text |
來進行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].start |
26332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].end |
26333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].text |
這是第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].start |
26333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].end |
26337.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].text |
第二個我認為你完全在糟蹋民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].start |
26337.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].end |
26341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].text |
現場有這麼多委員對於你剛剛說要處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].start |
26341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].end |
26344.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].text |
表達有意義有看法有不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].start |
26344.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].end |
26346.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].text |
你就決定打算不處理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].start |
26346.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].end |
26347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].text |
就決定硬要表決嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].start |
26347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].end |
26349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].text |
就你一個人說了算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].start |
26349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].end |
26350.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].text |
請問在委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].start |
26350.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].end |
26353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].text |
我們連最基本的民主程序都沒有辦法落實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].start |
26353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].end |
26356.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].text |
我不知道原來召委的權力有這麼大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].start |
26356.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].end |
26359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].text |
這麼無限擴張這麼獨裁這麼集權 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].start |
26359.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].end |
26362.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].text |
有這樣的一個國民黨的羅庭偉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].start |
26362.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].end |
26364.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].text |
擔任教育文化委員會的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].start |
26364.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].end |
26366.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].text |
是誰把教育文化委員會的氣氛現在變成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].start |
26366.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].end |
26368.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].text |
就是你羅昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].start |
26368.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].end |
26369.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].text |
所以我再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].start |
26369.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].end |
26373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].text |
如果你跟蔡村丑委員你們兩個現在都還在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].start |
26373.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].end |
26375.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].text |
你們認為你們說的非常有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].start |
26375.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].end |
26377.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].text |
不論是背離民意也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].start |
26377.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].end |
26380.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].text |
或是你們認為沒有理解到現場老師的痛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].start |
26380.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].end |
26382.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].text |
那你們就勇敢的寫在提案裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].start |
26382.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].end |
26384.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].text |
為你們自己的言論負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].start |
26384.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].end |
26386.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].text |
為你們自己的提案負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].start |
26386.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].end |
26389.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].text |
未來讓歷史上大家回過頭來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].start |
26389.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].end |
26391.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].text |
當你有多麼兩個認真的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].start |
26391.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].end |
26393.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].text |
他們勇於為自己的言論負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].start |
26393.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].end |
26395.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].text |
留下文字在提案裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].start |
26395.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].end |
26398.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].text |
而不是現在一個不清不楚的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].start |
26398.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].end |
26401.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].text |
不知道讓教育部改什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].start |
26401.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].end |
26404.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].text |
然後你現在甚至粗暴蠻橫的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].start |
26404.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].end |
26406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].text |
直接送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].start |
26406.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].end |
26407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].text |
我覺得非常非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].start |
26407.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].end |
26409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].text |
非常非常的獨裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].start |
26409.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].end |
26410.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].text |
在教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].start |
26410.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].end |
26411.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].text |
在台灣的民主法治社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].start |
26411.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].end |
26414.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].text |
不應該在立法院發生這樣的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].start |
26415.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].end |
26418.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].text |
剛剛陳培有委員說保留嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].start |
26419.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].end |
26421.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].text |
那所以我們就接著請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].start |
26421.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].end |
26423.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].text |
就直接處理我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].start |
26423.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].end |
26424.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].text |
沒關係沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].start |
26425.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].end |
26428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].text |
那我們現在就來處理委員提案第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].start |
26428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].end |
26431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].text |
剛剛有我們要來請機關說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].start |
26431.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].end |
26433.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].text |
機關也沒有表示任何的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].start |
26434.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].end |
26437.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].text |
那現在我們要來處理委員提案第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].start |
26437.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].end |
26439.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].start |
26438.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].end |
26439.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].text |
這案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].start |
26440.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].end |
26442.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].text |
修正通過或者是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].start |
26443.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].end |
26445.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].text |
那我們要來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].start |
26445.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].end |
26448.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].text |
剛好陳培委員提案保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].start |
26448.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].end |
26449.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].text |
請問保留有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].start |
26454.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].end |
26456.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].text |
沒關係你提案就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].start |
26456.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].end |
26457.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].text |
保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].start |
26457.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].end |
26459.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].text |
是保留在委員會喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].start |
26459.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].end |
26460.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].text |
昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].start |
26460.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].end |
26461.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].text |
我要再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].start |
26461.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].end |
26462.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].text |
是保留在委員會喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].start |
26462.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].end |
26464.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].text |
保留在委員會是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].start |
26464.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].end |
26466.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].text |
他根本就是一個違法荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].start |
26466.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].end |
26467.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].text |
自己的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].start |
26467.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].end |
26468.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].text |
沒關係好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].start |
26468.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].end |
26469.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].text |
所以我不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].start |
26469.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].end |
26470.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].text |
那我們請點人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].start |
26470.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].end |
26472.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].text |
我不是為了反對消失會議的改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].start |
26472.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].end |
26473.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].text |
我們自始至終都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].start |
26473.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].end |
26475.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].text |
但是這個提案非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].start |
26475.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].end |
26476.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].text |
完全不說出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].start |
26476.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].end |
26477.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].text |
到底到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].start |
26477.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].end |
26478.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].text |
在這個前提之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].start |
26478.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].end |
26480.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].text |
我們要求保留放在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].start |
26480.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].end |
26483.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].text |
等待羅庭偉委員自己去更改提案文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].start |
26483.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].end |
26484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].text |
那請問陳安祖習 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].start |
26484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].end |
26486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].text |
那有委員提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].start |
26486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].end |
26487.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].text |
保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].start |
26487.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].end |
26490.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].text |
那支持保留在委員會的請舉手投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].start |
26498.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].end |
26500.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].text |
你們提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].start |
26500.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].end |
26503.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].text |
國民黨沒有半個委員在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].start |
26503.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].end |
26505.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].text |
你覺得你會什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].start |
26505.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].end |
26510.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].text |
你都不需要請你們國民黨的委員來一場表達對您的支持嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].start |
26510.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].end |
26511.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].text |
一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].start |
26511.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].end |
26512.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].text |
連國民黨委員都沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].start |
26512.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].end |
26513.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].text |
現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].start |
26513.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].end |
26515.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].text |
我們都沒有要來聽你的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].start |
26515.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].end |
26516.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].text |
保留的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].start |
26516.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].end |
26517.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].text |
然後你就硬要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].start |
26517.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].end |
26518.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].text |
那請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].start |
26518.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].end |
26520.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].text |
不贊成保留反對的請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].start |
26520.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].end |
26522.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].text |
在場沒有任何一個國民黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].start |
26522.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].end |
26524.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].text |
要來挺羅庭偉的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].start |
26524.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].end |
26525.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].text |
也一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].start |
26525.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].end |
26526.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].text |
我要主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].start |
26526.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].end |
26527.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].start |
26527.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].end |
26528.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].text |
根本是我們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].start |
26528.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].end |
26529.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].text |
不應該去表決這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].start |
26529.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].end |
26531.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].text |
我們現場舉手投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].start |
26531.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].end |
26536.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].text |
贊成保留在委員會裡面的一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].start |
26536.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].end |
26538.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].text |
不贊成反對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].start |
26539.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].end |
26540.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].text |
投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].start |
26540.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].end |
26541.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].text |
也一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].start |
26541.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].end |
26543.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].text |
等一下主席等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].start |
26543.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].end |
26544.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].start |
26544.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].end |
26545.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].text |
請稍等主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].start |
26545.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].end |
26546.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].start |
26546.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].end |
26547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].text |
因為剛剛有請你們表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].start |
26547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].end |
26550.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].text |
那是不是你可以再提議一次重新表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].start |
26555 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].end |
26556 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].start |
26556 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].end |
26557 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].text |
因為我也沒有說你可以發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].start |
26557 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].end |
26558 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].text |
甚至你也尊重我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].start |
26558 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].end |
26560 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].text |
請你發言的時候再發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].start |
26561.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].end |
26564.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].text |
你為什麼就是為了表決而表決呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].start |
26564.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].end |
26568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].text |
你為什麼不能夠就你自己的提案講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].start |
26568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].end |
26570.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].text |
哪些這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].start |
26570.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].end |
26573.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].text |
哪些跟魔法抵觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].start |
26573.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].end |
26574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].text |
你要把它宰民 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].start |
26574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].end |
26577.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].text |
它才是一個合宜的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].start |
26578.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].end |
26581.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].text |
你為什麼不願意完備您的提案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].start |
26581.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].end |
26584.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].text |
要針對一個毫不完備的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].start |
26584.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].end |
26585.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].text |
就硬要表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].start |
26585.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].end |
26587.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].text |
更何況你們國民黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].start |
26587.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].end |
26589.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].text |
沒有半個人在場啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].start |
26591.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].end |
26593.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].text |
沒有半個人在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].start |
26593.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].end |
26595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].text |
關心校事會議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].start |
26596.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].end |
26598.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].text |
國民黨的委員到哪裡去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].start |
26599.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].end |
26601.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].text |
然後張偉一個人就要這樣盲幹 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].start |
26603.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].end |
26604.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].start |
26604.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].end |
26606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].text |
委員是不是可以請尊重一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].start |
26606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].end |
26608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].text |
主席請你發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].start |
26608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].end |
26609.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].text |
再繼續發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].start |
26609.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].end |
26612.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].text |
就會提出校事會議的分析報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].start |
26612.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].end |
26613.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].text |
我們剛剛已經說得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].start |
26613.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].end |
26616.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].text |
所以我們認為要等7月15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].start |
26616.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].end |
26618.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].text |
教育部的分析報告提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].start |
26618.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].end |
26620.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].text |
麻煩請委員自行提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].start |
26620.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].end |
26623.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].text |
那如果委員也自行提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].start |
26623.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].end |
26625.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].text |
那我們沒有認為哪個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].start |
26625.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].end |
26629.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].text |
我們目前要照第一案來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].start |
26629.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].end |
26631.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].text |
要提案的人是你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].start |
26631.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].end |
26633.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].text |
我們的議事程序只能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].start |
26633.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].end |
26635.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].text |
上案通過 修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].start |
26635.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].end |
26637.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].text |
或者是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].start |
26637.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].end |
26638.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].text |
那委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].start |
26638.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].end |
26640.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].text |
您的提案不可以要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].start |
26640.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].end |
26642.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].text |
其他委員一樣怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].start |
26642.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].end |
26645.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].text |
那我也再一次的跟所有的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].start |
26645.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].end |
26647.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].text |
以及其他委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].start |
26647.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].end |
26650.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].text |
94年95年已經有多次審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].start |
26650.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].end |
26651.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].text |
相關的行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].start |
26651.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].end |
26653.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].text |
都是有下結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].start |
26653.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].end |
26657.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].text |
因為現場的實際狀況違背民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].start |
26657.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].end |
26659.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].text |
那相關的辦法應該教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].start |
26659.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].end |
26663.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].text |
重新修正再送回立法院審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].start |
26663.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].end |
26667.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].text |
那以上是我們這個提案的主旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].start |
26667.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].end |
26668.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].text |
那所以還是拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].start |
26668.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].end |
26670.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].text |
如果委員您覺得不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].start |
26670.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].end |
26672.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].text |
您可以提出您自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].start |
26672.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].end |
26675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].text |
但您不可以提案要求別的委員怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].start |
26675.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].end |
26678.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].text |
那剛剛有再一次請我們的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].start |
26678.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].end |
26680.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].text |
請提出修正文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].start |
26680.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].end |
26682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].text |
也多次的詢問主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].start |
26682.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].end |
26685.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].text |
沒有意願要提出修正文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].start |
26686.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].end |
26690.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].text |
所以我們是不是就直接推進我們的議事程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].start |
26691.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].end |
26694.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].text |
繼續處理我們委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].start |
26695.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].end |
26698.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].text |
那剛剛委員有對於投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].start |
26699.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].end |
26700.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].text |
有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].start |
26700.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].end |
26702.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].text |
那所以是不是要重新投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].start |
26704.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].end |
26708.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].text |
主席這個針對就是把這一個提案保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].start |
26708.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].end |
26710.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].text |
我要求重新表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].start |
26710.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].end |
26711.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].start |
26712.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].end |
26713.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].text |
收到指令 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].start |
26713.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].end |
26715.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].text |
只要有委員提出議事程序的指令 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].start |
26715.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].end |
26717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].text |
我們能接收的我們一定全力協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].start |
26717.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].end |
26718.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].text |
請點人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].start |
26724.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].end |
26725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].text |
在場8位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].start |
26726.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].end |
26727.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].text |
現場提案一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].start |
26727.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].end |
26729.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].text |
第一案我們有委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].start |
26729.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].end |
26731.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].text |
所以我們要來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].start |
26731.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].end |
26734.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].text |
本案是否照案通過修正通過或者是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].start |
26734.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].end |
26738.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].text |
那有委員提案保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].start |
26738.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].end |
26740.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].text |
那不用送出院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].start |
26740.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].end |
26742.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].text |
那我們針對這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].start |
26743.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].end |
26745.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].text |
現階段要來投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].start |
26746.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].end |
26748.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].text |
請舉手投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].start |
26749.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].end |
26752.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].text |
贊成本提案保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].start |
26752.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].end |
26754.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].text |
不用送出院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].start |
26755.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].end |
26756.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].text |
贊成者請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].start |
26761.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].end |
26762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].text |
好 七位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].start |
26763.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].end |
26765.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].text |
反對者請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].start |
26766.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].end |
26767.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].text |
好 一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].start |
26768.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].end |
26769.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].start |
26770.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].end |
26771.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].text |
下一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].start |
26772.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].end |
26773.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].text |
贊成者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].start |
26774.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].end |
26775.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].text |
為多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].start |
26775.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].end |
26776.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].text |
本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].start |
26777.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].end |
26779.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].text |
通過保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].start |
26781.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].end |
26782.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].text |
接著 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].start |
26788.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].end |
26789.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].text |
下一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].start |
26789.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].end |
26790.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].text |
含微修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].start |
26790.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].end |
26793.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].text |
高級中等以下學校教師解聘不續聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].start |
26793.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].end |
26794.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].text |
停聘或支援辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].start |
26794.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].end |
26795.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].text |
部分條文案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].start |
26795.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].end |
26796.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].text |
連同 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].start |
26799.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].end |
26801.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].text |
另定期繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].start |
26801.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].end |
26802.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].text |
接著我們要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].start |
26802.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].end |
26803.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].text |
第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].start |
26805.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].end |
26806.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].text |
請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].start |
26807.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].end |
26808.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].start |
26812.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].end |
26813.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].text |
我們接著繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].start |
26814.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].end |
26816.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].text |
審理第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].start |
26816.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].end |
26818.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].text |
繼續審查教育部含微修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].start |
26818.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].end |
26821.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].text |
公立高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].start |
26821.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].end |
26822.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].text |
第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].start |
26822.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].end |
26823.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].text |
第二條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].start |
26823.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].end |
26824.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].text |
條文案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].start |
26824.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].end |
26825.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].text |
現在有委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].start |
26825.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].end |
26826.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].text |
一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].start |
26826.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].end |
26827.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].text |
請醫師人員宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].start |
26829.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].end |
26836.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].text |
教育部以一五年一月十二日完成公立高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].start |
26836.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].end |
26837.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].text |
第六條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].start |
26837.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].end |
26838.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].text |
條文修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].start |
26838.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].end |
26842.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].text |
經第五會期教育局文化委員會第十七次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].start |
26842.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].end |
26845.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].text |
能認為有待修正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].start |
26845.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].end |
26848.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].text |
請教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].start |
26848.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].end |
26852.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].text |
依立法院職權行使法第六十二條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].start |
26852.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].end |
26854.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].text |
提報院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].start |
26854.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].end |
26858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].text |
立法院議員會議決後通知教育部更正該辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].start |
26858.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].end |
26859.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].text |
提案人羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].start |
26859.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].end |
26861.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].text |
連署人葉元之蔡村仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].start |
26861.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].end |
26862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].text |
羅志強 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].start |
26862.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].end |
26863.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].text |
宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].start |
26864.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].end |
26867.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].text |
好我們接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].start |
26867.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].end |
26870.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].text |
我們是不是就請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].start |
26870.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].end |
26871.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].text |
那我是提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].start |
26871.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].end |
26873.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].text |
那我的意見大概就差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].start |
26873.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].end |
26875.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].text |
跟上一案都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].start |
26875.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].end |
26879.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].text |
那我們依據九十四年九十五年所提議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].start |
26879.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].end |
26881.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].text |
他並沒有違背母法的前提 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].start |
26881.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].end |
26883.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].text |
但是與現場教學狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].start |
26883.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].end |
26885.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].text |
實際違反了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].start |
26885.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].end |
26887.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].text |
有一些缺失 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].start |
26887.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].end |
26888.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].text |
也罔顧民意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].start |
26888.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].end |
26889.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].text |
希望呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].start |
26889.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].end |
26892.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].text |
我們教育部修正後再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].start |
26892.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].end |
26894.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].text |
以上簡單的提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].start |
26894.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].end |
26897.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].text |
那也請器官代表表示意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].start |
26905.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].end |
26907.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].text |
謝謝召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].start |
26907.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].end |
26910.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].text |
那在考核辦法配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].start |
26910.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].end |
26914.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].text |
一月十二號修正解騙辦法的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].start |
26914.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].end |
26916.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].text |
那麼做了第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].start |
26916.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].end |
26918.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].text |
第六條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].start |
26918.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].end |
26920.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].text |
比較完整的配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].start |
26920.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].end |
26925.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].text |
那如果在立法院的職權行使法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].start |
26925.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].end |
26928.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].text |
那委員這邊有就 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].start |
26928.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].end |
26930.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].text |
比較有違反了母法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].start |
26930.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].end |
26932.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].text |
給我們指導 |
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26932.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].end |
26935.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].text |
那麼在未來修正的就比較能聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].start |
26935.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].end |
26937.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].text |
那麼在送備查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].start |
26937.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].end |
26939.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].text |
也不要能夠通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].start |
26939.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].end |
26941.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].text |
那是不是再請委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].start |
26941.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].end |
26944.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].text |
再給我們一個比較明確的指導方向之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].start |
26944.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].end |
26947.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].text |
那我們更具體的來做更正補充完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].start |
26950.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].end |
26952.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].text |
不好意思所以有提案的修正文字嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].start |
26955.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].end |
26957.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].start |
26957.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].end |
26959.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].text |
接著我們要來處理本提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].start |
26960.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].end |
26963.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].text |
詐案通過 修正通過 或者是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].start |
26964.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].end |
26966.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].text |
主席可以發言嗎 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].start |
26967.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].end |
26969.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].text |
可以發言了 好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].start |
26970.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].end |
26972.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].text |
現在處理的這個提案 |
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26972.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].end |
26974.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].text |
我要再唸一次給大家聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].start |
26973.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].end |
26977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].text |
提案 教育部於115年1月12日完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].start |
26977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].end |
26980.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].text |
公立高級中等以下學校教師成績考核辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].start |
26980.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].end |
26984.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].text |
第五條 第六條之一條文修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].start |
26984.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].end |
26986.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].text |
經第五會期教育局文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].start |
26986.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].end |
26988.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].text |
第17次全體委員會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].start |
26988.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].end |
26990.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].text |
仍認為有待修正之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].start |
26990.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].end |
26992.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].text |
請教育部修正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].start |
26993.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].end |
26995.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].text |
再送立法院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].start |
26995.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].end |
26997.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].text |
依立法院職權刑事法第62條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].start |
26997.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].end |
26999.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].text |
提報立法院院會會議議決後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].start |
26999.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].end |
27001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].text |
通知教育部更正辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].start |
27001.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].end |
27003.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].text |
一樣 邏輯錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].start |
27003.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].end |
27005.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].text |
一樣 沒有指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].start |
27005.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].end |
27007.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].text |
委員您認為哪裡應該要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].start |
27007.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].end |
27009.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].text |
而且我再一次說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].start |
27009.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].end |
27011.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].text |
你剛剛不斷引用20年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].start |
27011.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].end |
27013.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].text |
在教文化委員會曾經發生的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].start |
27013.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].end |
27015.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].text |
但是先不管當時的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].start |
27015.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].end |
27017.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].text |
跟現在的情況一不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].start |
27017.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].end |
27019.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].text |
但是至少當時提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].start |
27019.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].end |
27021.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].text |
勇敢的說出他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].start |
27021.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].end |
27023.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].text |
要嘛就是背離名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].start |
27023.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].end |
27025.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].text |
要嘛就是沒有理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].start |
27025.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].end |
27027.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].text |
現場老師的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].start |
27027.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].end |
27029.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].text |
可是我現在手上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].start |
27029.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].end |
27031.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].text |
羅廷維委員做主題案的這份提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].start |
27031.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].end |
27033.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].text |
甚至連自己的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].start |
27033.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].end |
27035.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].text |
自己認為哪裡應該要更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].start |
27035.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].end |
27037.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].text |
要給教育部什麼指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].start |
27037.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].end |
27039.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].text |
完全說不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].start |
27039.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].end |
27041.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].text |
我也非常好奇到底是為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].start |
27041.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].end |
27043.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].text |
而連署人葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].start |
27043.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].end |
27045.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].text |
蔡春筹委員 羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].start |
27045.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].end |
27047.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].text |
一樣在今天很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].start |
27047.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].end |
27049.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].text |
都沒有聽到更進一步的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9972].start |
27049.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9972].end |
27051.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9972].text |
我也要再次提醒主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].start |
27051.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].end |
27053.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].text |
也提醒今天所有在場的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].start |
27054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].end |
27056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].text |
如果校事會議是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].start |
27056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].end |
27058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].text |
現在在黨委員他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9976].start |
27058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9976].end |
27060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9976].text |
他們自己是最關心的一群人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].start |
27060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].end |
27062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].text |
他們認為自己在校事會議上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].start |
27062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].end |
27064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].text |
是所有跟教師站在一起的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].start |
27064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].end |
27066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].text |
那就我就問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].start |
27066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].end |
27068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].text |
今天下午國民黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].start |
27068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].end |
27070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].text |
教文化委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].start |
27070.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].end |
27072.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].text |
葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].start |
27071.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].end |
27073.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].text |
葛如軍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].start |
27073.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].end |
27075.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].text |
謝龍介委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].start |
27075.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].end |
27077.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].text |
柯志恩委員 羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].start |
27077.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].end |
27079.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].text |
我們沒有看到你們的發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].start |
27079.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].end |
27081.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].text |
我們沒有看到你們出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].start |
27081.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].end |
27083.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].text |
我們沒有看到你們持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].start |
27083.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].end |
27085.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].text |
在修法的版本內容上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].start |
27085.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].end |
27087.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].text |
關注這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].start |
27087.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].end |
27089.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].text |
我們更不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].start |
27089.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].end |
27091.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].text |
葉元之委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].start |
27091.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].end |
27093.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].text |
羅志強委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].start |
27093.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].end |
27095.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].text |
為什麼要簽羅庭委員這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].start |
27095.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].end |
27097.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].text |
完全沒有說明的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].start |
27097.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].end |
27099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].text |
所以我要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].start |
27099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].end |
27101.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].text |
這是一個應該要撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].start |
27101.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].end |
27103.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].text |
或者是主席您自己說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].start |
27103.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].end |
27105.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].text |
到底要叫一部更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].start |
27105.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].end |
27107.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].text |
什麼內容的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].start |
27123.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].end |
27125.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].text |
好 還有委員要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].start |
27128.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].end |
27130.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].text |
其實剛剛主席在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].start |
27130.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].end |
27132.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].text |
一直不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].start |
27132.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].end |
27134.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].text |
這個補充說明的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].start |
27134.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].end |
27136.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].text |
主席自己也已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].start |
27136.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].end |
27138.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].text |
講到重點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].start |
27138.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].end |
27140.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].text |
您今天提的兩個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].start |
27140.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].end |
27142.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].text |
並沒有違反 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].start |
27142.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].end |
27144.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].text |
立法院職權刑事法62條所載 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].start |
27144.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].end |
27146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].text |
有違逆 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].start |
27146.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].end |
27148.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].text |
母法教師法29條之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].start |
27148.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].end |
27150.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].text |
其實剛剛張偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].start |
27150.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].end |
27152.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].text |
你已經多次說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].start |
27152.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].end |
27154.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].text |
並沒有違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].start |
27156.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].end |
27158.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].text |
你已經非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].start |
27158.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].end |
27160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].text |
自己提案都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].start |
27160.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].end |
27162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].text |
並沒有違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].start |
27162.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].end |
27164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].text |
你剛剛講了很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].start |
27164.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].end |
27166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].text |
但是很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].start |
27166.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].end |
27168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].text |
您用了一個民國95年 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].start |
27168.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].end |
27170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].text |
20多年前立法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].start |
27170.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].end |
27172.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].text |
所謂的什麼慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].start |
27172.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].end |
27174.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].text |
我們真的不清楚那個時候的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].start |
27174.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].end |
27176.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].text |
時空當下發生了什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].start |
27176.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].end |
27178.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].text |
但是立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].start |
27178.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].end |
27180.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].text |
就應當依法守法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].start |
27180.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].end |
27182.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].text |
我們依據的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].start |
27182.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].end |
27184.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].text |
就是職權刑事法62條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].start |
27184.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].end |
27186.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].text |
所以當年20多年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].start |
27188.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].end |
27190.53 |
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沒有依法 |
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那為什麼 |
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27191.32 |
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27193.32 |
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20多年後的2026年 |
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27193.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].end |
27195.32 |
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我們要依循20幾年前 |
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27195.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].end |
27197.32 |
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錯誤的做法 |
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27197.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].end |
27199.32 |
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然後要持續的 |
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27199.32 |
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27201.32 |
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無法炮製呢 |
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27201.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].end |
27203.31 |
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我覺得這是我一個很大的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].start |
27204.85 |
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27206.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].text |
所以剛剛主席自己在補充說明 |
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27206.85 |
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你已經提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10040].start |
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27210.85 |
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不管剛剛的提案 |
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第一案或是現在的第二案 |
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確實都沒有 |
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27214.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10043].end |
27216.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10043].text |
違反母法之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[10044].start |
27216.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10044].end |
27218.85 |
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換言之你也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10045].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[10045].end |
27220.85 |
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並沒有要求教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10046].start |
27220.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10046].end |
27222.85 |
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依法要予以廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[10047].start |
27222.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10047].end |
27224.85 |
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或是修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10048].start |
27224.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10048].end |
27226.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10048].text |
之處的可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[10049].start |
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可行行 |
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27231.05 |
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您比誰都還清楚不過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10051].start |
27231.05 |
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27233.05 |
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因為你剛剛已經多次說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10052].start |
27233.05 |
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27235.05 |
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所以早知如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[10053].start |
27235.05 |
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27237.05 |
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你為什麼硬要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10054].start |
27237.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10054].end |
27239.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10054].text |
還是要針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10055].start |
27239.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10055].end |
27241.05 |
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不明不白 |
| transcript.whisperx[10056].start |
27240.47 |
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27242.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10056].text |
違反法規的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10057].start |
27242.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10057].end |
27244.47 |
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又要做處理呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10058].start |
27245.89 |
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27247.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10058].text |
所以這個案子跟上面的一個案子一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10059].start |
27247.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10059].end |
27249.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10059].text |
民進黨團的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].start |
27249.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].end |
27251.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].text |
依舊是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10061].start |
27251.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10061].end |
27253.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10061].text |
如果委員指正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].start |
27253.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].end |
27255.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].text |
出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10063].start |
27255.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10063].end |
27257.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10063].text |
能夠指明哪些條文違反了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].start |
27260.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].end |
27262.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].text |
母法授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].start |
27262.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].end |
27264.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].text |
那我們當然應當來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].start |
27264.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].end |
27266.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].text |
如果您沒有辦法宰民 |
| transcript.whisperx[10067].start |
27266.22 |
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27268.22 |
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而且你剛剛也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10068].start |
27268.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10068].end |
27270.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10068].text |
沒有違反母法之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[10069].start |
27270.22 |
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27272.22 |
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那就代表這個提案完全不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10070].start |
27272.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10070].end |
27274.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10070].text |
不正當 |
| transcript.whisperx[10071].start |
27274.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10071].end |
27276.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10071].text |
這個提案也不應當拿來這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10072].start |
27276.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10072].end |
27278.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10072].text |
一定要來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].start |
27278.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].end |
27280.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].text |
所以我補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10074].start |
27280.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10074].end |
27282.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10074].text |
我只是用您剛剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].start |
27282.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].end |
27284.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].text |
話術來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].start |
27284.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].end |
27286.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].text |
您自己而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].start |
27289.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].end |
27291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].start |
27291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].end |
27293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].text |
我想再補充說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10079].start |
27293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10079].end |
27295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10079].text |
那剛剛我很清楚的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10080].start |
27295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10080].end |
27297.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10080].text |
我是引用94年95年 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].start |
27297.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].end |
27299.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].text |
當時所做的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10082].start |
27299.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10082].end |
27301.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10082].text |
他們直接提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10083].start |
27301.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10083].end |
27303.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10083].text |
為改善目前教師申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].start |
27303.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].end |
27305.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].text |
實際的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].start |
27305.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].end |
27307.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].text |
的缺失 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].start |
27307.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].end |
27309.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].text |
反正請教育部重新斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].start |
27309.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].end |
27311.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].text |
研擬後再送本院備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].start |
27311.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].end |
27313.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].text |
當時的時工背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[10089].start |
27313.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10089].end |
27315.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10089].text |
並沒有提及有無違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10090].start |
27316.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10090].end |
27318.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10090].text |
我是在講解當時的時空背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].start |
27320.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].end |
27322.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].text |
第二個95年這一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].start |
27322.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].end |
27324.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].text |
是給予國民小學 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].start |
27324.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].end |
27326.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].text |
國民中學班級編制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].start |
27326.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].end |
27328.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].text |
及教職員原額編制的準則 |
| transcript.whisperx[10095].start |
27328.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10095].end |
27330.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10095].text |
他所提到的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].start |
27330.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].end |
27332.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].text |
是罔顧民意及實際狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].start |
27332.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].end |
27334.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].text |
故予以退回 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].start |
27334.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].end |
27336.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].text |
那兩案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].start |
27336.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].end |
27338.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].text |
都是沒有提及 |
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27338.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10100].end |
27340.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10100].text |
有無違背母法 |
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27340.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].end |
27342.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].text |
所以是有潛力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].start |
27342.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].end |
27344.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].text |
但如果委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].start |
27344.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].end |
27346.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].text |
真要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].start |
27346.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].end |
27348.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].text |
我們在審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].start |
27348.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].end |
27350.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].text |
高級中的以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].start |
27350.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].end |
27352.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].text |
學校教師解聘不續聘停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].start |
27352.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].end |
27354.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].text |
之前的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].start |
27354.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].end |
27356.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].text |
部分條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].start |
27356.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].end |
27358.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].text |
是否有違反母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].start |
27358.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].end |
27360.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].start |
27359.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].end |
27361.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].text |
我們都不可以直接下定論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].start |
27361.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].end |
27363.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].text |
有跟無 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].start |
27363.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].end |
27365.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].text |
我們畢竟不是大法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].start |
27366.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].end |
27368.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].start |
27367.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].end |
27369.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].text |
經過全國教師公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].start |
27369.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].end |
27371.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].text |
總聯合會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].start |
27371.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].end |
27373.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].text |
他們不斷的在倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].start |
27373.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].end |
27375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].text |
其授權的母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].start |
27375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].end |
27377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].text |
教師法相關的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].start |
27377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].end |
27379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].text |
第一條立法目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].start |
27379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].end |
27381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].text |
就揭示的立法精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].start |
27381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].end |
27383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].text |
是以法律保障教師的工作權 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].start |
27383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].end |
27385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].text |
以及專業地位 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].start |
27385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].end |
27387.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].text |
使教師能夠在程序正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].start |
27387.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].end |
27389.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].text |
以及專業自主的環境中 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].start |
27389.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].end |
27391.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].text |
從事教育工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].start |
27391.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].end |
27393.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].text |
以達到成為國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].start |
27393.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].end |
27395.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].text |
培育人才的重要使命 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].start |
27395.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].end |
27397.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].text |
所以我們現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].start |
27397.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].end |
27399.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].text |
為什麼要來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].start |
27399.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].end |
27401.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].text |
相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].start |
27401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].end |
27403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].text |
高級中等以下學校教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].start |
27403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].end |
27405.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].text |
解聘不續聘停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].start |
27405.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].end |
27407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].text |
之前辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].start |
27407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].end |
27409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].text |
就是因為他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].start |
27409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].end |
27411.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].text |
這些相關的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].start |
27411.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].end |
27413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].text |
已經影響到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].start |
27413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].end |
27415.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].text |
教師續聘的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].start |
27415.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].end |
27417.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].text |
應該要受法律的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].start |
27417.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].end |
27419.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].text |
的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].start |
27419.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].end |
27421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].text |
所以他們都清楚明確的指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].start |
27421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].end |
27423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].text |
這些法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].start |
27423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].end |
27425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].text |
這些辦法已經侵害到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].start |
27425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].end |
27427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].text |
他們的工作權 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].start |
27427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].end |
27429.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].text |
我想這些不管是教師會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].start |
27429.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].end |
27431.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].text |
不管是總聯合會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].start |
27431.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].end |
27433.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].text |
不管是台教產 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].start |
27433.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].end |
27435.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].text |
不管是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].start |
27435.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].end |
27437.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].text |
教育產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].start |
27437.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].end |
27439.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].text |
相關的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].start |
27439.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].end |
27441.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].text |
都不斷的在倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].start |
27441.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].end |
27443.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].text |
我想教育部都比我們更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].start |
27443.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].end |
27445.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].text |
這些法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].start |
27445.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].end |
27447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].text |
哪些應該要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].start |
27449.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].end |
27451.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].text |
在更新以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].start |
27451.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].end |
27453.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].text |
再請立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].start |
27453.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].end |
27455.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].text |
備查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].start |
27454.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].end |
27456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].text |
我想這個部分也跟大家一併說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].start |
27456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].end |
27458.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].text |
我想不需要在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].start |
27458.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].end |
27460.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].text |
特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].start |
27460.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].end |
27462.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].text |
甄婕典在其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].start |
27462.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].end |
27464.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].text |
自己提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].start |
27464.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].end |
27466.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].text |
還是要請委員自行提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].start |
27467.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].end |
27469.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].text |
接著我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].start |
27470.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].end |
27472.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].text |
因為剛剛議事人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].start |
27472.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].end |
27474.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].text |
有提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].start |
27474.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].end |
27476.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].text |
配合第一案已經暫時 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].start |
27476.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].end |
27478.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].text |
保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].start |
27478.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].end |
27480.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].text |
我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].start |
27480.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].end |
27482.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].text |
第二個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].start |
27482.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].end |
27484.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].text |
我們在處理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].start |
27484.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].end |
27486.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].text |
也只能夠繼續定期審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].start |
27486.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].end |
27488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].text |
以上跟所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].start |
27488.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].end |
27490.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].text |
特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].start |
27490.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].end |
27492.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].text |
所以我們宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].start |
27492.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].end |
27494.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].text |
教育部韓圍修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].start |
27494.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].end |
27496.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].text |
公立高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].start |
27496.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].end |
27498.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].text |
教師成績考核辦法第五條第六條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].start |
27498.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].end |
27500.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].text |
條文案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].start |
27500.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].end |
27502.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].text |
定期再繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].start |
27506.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].end |
27508.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].text |
接著我們法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].start |
27508.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].end |
27510.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].text |
法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].start |
27509.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].end |
27511.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].text |
討論已經協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].start |
27511.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].end |
27513.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].text |
我們繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].start |
27513.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].end |
27515.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].text |
法案主條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].start |
27515.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].end |
27517.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].text |
請議事人員宣讀新增的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].start |
27517.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].end |
27519.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].text |
提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].start |
27518.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].end |
27520.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].text |
以及進行討論協商時 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].start |
27520.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].end |
27522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].text |
如果有新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].start |
27522.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].end |
27524.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].start |
27524.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].end |
27526.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].text |
一併宣讀討論時請參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].start |
27526.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].end |
27528.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].text |
教育部提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10193].start |
27528.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10193].end |
27530.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10193].text |
提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10194].start |
27530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10194].end |
27532.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10194].text |
會的討論版本書面資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[10195].start |
27532.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10195].end |
27534.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10195].text |
並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[10196].start |
27534.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10196].end |
27536.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10196].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[10197].start |
27540.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10197].end |
27542.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10197].text |
宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[10198].start |
27545.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10198].end |
27547.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10198].text |
請問一下要宣讀多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[10199].start |
27554.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10199].end |
27556.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10199].text |
我先去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10200].start |
27556.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10200].end |
27558.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10200].text |
請問主席要宣讀多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[10201].start |
27560.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10201].end |
27562.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10201].text |
是一樣午餐法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10202].start |
27564.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10202].end |
27566.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10202].text |
因為有三四十個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10203].start |
27568.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10203].end |
27570.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10203].text |
請問要宣讀多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[10204].start |
27571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10204].end |
27573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10204].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10205].start |
27578.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10205].end |
27580.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10205].text |
主席也沒有喊休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].start |
27580.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].end |
27582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].text |
那我們就簡單看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10207].start |
27582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10207].end |
27584.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10207].text |
等一下如果要做營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10208].start |
27584.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10208].end |
27586.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10208].text |
現場一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10209].start |
27586.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10209].end |
27588.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10209].text |
國民黨委員一樣都沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10210].start |
27589.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10210].end |
27592.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10210].text |
一樣 不要把自己最關心要午餐的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10211].start |
27592.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10211].end |
27593.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10211].text |
上一次先行離會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10212].start |
27593.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10212].end |
27594.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10212].text |
這一次沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10213].start |
27594.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10213].end |
27596.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10213].text |
這就是現在國民黨委員的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[10214].start |
27604.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10214].end |
27607.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10214].text |
好 我們現在繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10215].start |
27610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10215].end |
27611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10215].text |
學校共產法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10216].start |
27613.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10216].end |
27614.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10216].text |
草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10217].start |
27618.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10217].end |
27619.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10217].text |
學校午餐集 |
| transcript.whisperx[10218].start |
27620.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10218].end |
27624.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10218].text |
飲食教育條例相關草案繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].start |
27624.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].end |
27628.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].text |
本案前經114年11月27日召開第四會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[10220].start |
27628.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10220].end |
27632.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10220].text |
教育及文化委員會第八次全體委員會審查的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].start |
27632.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].end |
27633.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].text |
法案名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].start |
27633.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].end |
27636.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].text |
趙委員柯志恩等21人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].start |
27636.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].end |
27638.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].text |
委員陳培宇等26人提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10224].start |
27639.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10224].end |
27642.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10224].text |
第二 各章張明君不予採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[10225].start |
27642.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10225].end |
27645.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10225].text |
第三 第一條暫時保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].start |
27645.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].end |
27647.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].text |
第二條修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].start |
27647.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].end |
27649.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].text |
現在進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].start |
27653.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].end |
27658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].text |
好 跟委員報告他已經在宣讀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10229].start |
27658.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10229].end |
27661.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10229].text |
我們可以進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10230].start |
27664.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10230].end |
27666.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10230].text |
法庭的指揮不適評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10231].start |
27666.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10231].end |
27669.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10231].text |
除非在立法制推動時相對化 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].start |
27669.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].end |
27671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].text |
文化組織及其他各族群眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].start |
27671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].end |
27672.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].text |
是有權適應化之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].start |
27672.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].end |
27674.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].text |
就要解決它事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[10235].start |
27674.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10235].end |
27676.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10235].text |
要求中央委員組織及其他各族群眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].start |
27676.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].end |
27677.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].text |
就要阻藏免於誇解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].start |
27677.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].end |
27679.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].text |
而是用大致推理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].start |
27679.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].end |
27680.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].text |
適應化及規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].start |
27680.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].end |
27684.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].text |
其其人家是有權適應化 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].start |
27684.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].end |
27685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].text |
學校共產法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].start |
27685.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].end |
27687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].text |
阻阻適應化 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].start |
27687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].end |
27689.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].text |
進行阻藏適應化 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].start |
27689.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].end |
27692.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].text |
應用主項和思想是更好極 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].start |
27692.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].end |
27694.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].text |
推動文化及其他各族群眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].start |
27694.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].end |
27696.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].text |
提起民意的思想與消耗思想 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].start |
27696.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].end |
27697.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].text |
我們相當重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].start |
27727.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].end |
27729.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].text |
法定人數不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].start |
27730.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].end |
27732.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].text |
好 我們現在處理第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].start |
27732.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].end |
27734.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].text |
因為第一條上次是暫時保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].start |
27735.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].end |
27737.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].text |
請問由委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].start |
27741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].end |
27742.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].text |
請問由委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].start |
27742.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].end |
27743.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].text |
請問由委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].start |
27744.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].end |
27745.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].text |
請問由委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].start |
27745.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].end |
27748.6 |
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上一次保留是不是就持續保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].start |
27748.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].end |
27750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].text |
我們應該是順著 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].start |
27750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].end |
27752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].text |
繼續下面討論條文吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].start |
27752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].end |
27753.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].text |
是這樣沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].start |
27753.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].end |
27755.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].text |
我剛剛有跟醫事人員確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].start |
27755.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].end |
27757.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].text |
是不是就直接照第三條來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].start |
27757.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].end |
27758.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].text |
但醫事人員還是提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].start |
27758.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].end |
27761.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].text |
希望從第一條來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].start |
27761.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].end |
27762.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].text |
那委員可以提案保留 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].start |
27767.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].end |
27769.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].text |
不是 醫事人員說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].start |
27769.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].end |
27771.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].text |
為什麼上一次保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].start |
27771.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].end |
27774.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].text |
為什麼你要我們再重新討論一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].start |
27777.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].end |
27778.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].text |
我報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].start |
27778.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].end |
27781.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].text |
上一次的保留是保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].start |
27781.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].end |
27783.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].text |
所以這一次在審的時候 |
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27783.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].end |
27785.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].text |
我們還是照順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].start |
27785.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].end |
27787.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].text |
一條文順序從第一條再開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].start |
27787.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].end |
27789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].text |
那如果說要再保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].start |
27789.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].end |
27791.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].text |
那我們就是再往後再看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].start |
27792.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].end |
27795.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].text |
因為我的理解是接下去討論不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].start |
27796.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].end |
27798.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].text |
因為他的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].start |
27798.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].end |
27799.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].text |
因為是保留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].start |
27799.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].end |
27802.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].text |
所以重啟委員會的審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].start |
27802.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].end |
27804.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].text |
就又再重新開啟第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].start |
27805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].end |
27808.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].text |
所以這依程序不就應該從 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].start |
27808.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].end |
27809.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].text |
第三條開始嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].start |
27811.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].end |
27814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].text |
因為如果你第一條上次就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].start |
27814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].end |
27816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].text |
現在再回來重新討論一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].start |
27817.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].end |
27818.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].text |
有必要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].start |
27822.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].end |
27823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].text |
好 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].start |
27823.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].end |
27825.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].text |
那委員建議我們從第三條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].start |
27826.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].end |
27828.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].text |
因為第一條應該還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].start |
27828.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].end |
27830.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].text |
就是上次討論了很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].start |
27830.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].end |
27831.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].text |
就沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].start |
27832.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].end |
27834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].text |
所以我們應該就往下面的條文吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].start |
27834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].end |
27834.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].start |
27835.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].end |
27838.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].text |
那我們就第二條因為已經通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].start |
27841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].end |
27841.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].start |
27842.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].end |
27844.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].text |
從第三條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].start |
27844.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].end |
27845.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].text |
第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].start |
27851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].end |
27853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].text |
第三條台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].start |
27853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].end |
27855.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].text |
第三條等36個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].start |
27855.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].end |
27857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].text |
以及委員柯志恩等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].start |
27857.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].end |
27859.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].text |
所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].start |
27859.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].end |
27861.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].text |
我們來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].start |
27861.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].end |
27863.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].text |
那柯志恩委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].start |
27863.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].end |
27865.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].text |
相關的條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].start |
27865.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].end |
27867.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].text |
都發給大家請大家參閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].start |
27867.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].end |
27870.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].text |
我們簡單來講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].start |
27870.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].end |
27873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].text |
已經整合相關委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].start |
27874.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].end |
27875.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].text |
那也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].start |
27875.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].end |
27878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].text |
就不會要照原本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].start |
27878.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].end |
27879.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].text |
36個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].start |
27880.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].end |
27882.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10308].start |
27883.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10308].end |
27885.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10308].text |
各個委員有共識都已經將 |
| transcript.whisperx[10309].start |
27885.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10309].end |
27888.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10309].text |
最大的共識的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10310].start |
27888.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10310].end |
27890.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10310].text |
提供給所有的委員來參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[10311].start |
27891.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10311].end |
27892.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10311].text |
我們看到第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].start |
27904 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].end |
27905.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].text |
欸欸欸我我對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].start |
27905.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].end |
27907.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].text |
我有我的這個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10314].start |
27907.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10314].end |
27908.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[10314].text |
我自己的就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10315].start |
27910.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10315].end |
27911.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10315].text |
就行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10316].start |
27912.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10316].end |
27914.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10316].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10317].start |
27918.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10317].end |
27920.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10317].text |
不好意思我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10318].start |
27920.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10318].end |
27921.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[10318].text |
直接看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10319].start |
27921.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[10319].end |
27923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10319].text |
柯志恩委員的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10320].start |
27923.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10320].end |
27925.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10320].text |
還有民進民眾黨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10321].start |
27925.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10321].end |
27926.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10321].text |
版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10322].start |
27926.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10322].end |
27928.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10322].text |
那還有教育部的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10323].start |
27928.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10323].end |
27929.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10323].text |
建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10324].start |
27929.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10324].end |
27931.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10324].text |
那第三條請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10325].start |
27931.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10325].end |
27932.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10325].text |
舉手發言謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10326].start |
27933.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10326].end |
27934.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10326].text |
就行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10327].start |
27935.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10327].end |
27937.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10327].text |
我是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10328].start |
27937.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10328].end |
27940.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10328].text |
因為第三條其實相對簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[10329].start |
27940.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10329].end |
27942.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10329].text |
那那個我就覺得就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10330].start |
27942.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10330].end |
27944.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10330].text |
依照教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10331].start |
27944.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10331].end |
27946.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10331].text |
這樣來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10332].start |
27946.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10332].end |
27946.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10332].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10333].start |
27947.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10333].end |
27947.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10333].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].start |
27949.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].end |
27950.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].text |
那還有沒有委員要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[10335].start |
27952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10335].end |
27953.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10335].text |
恭喜委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10336].start |
27957.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10336].end |
27957.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10336].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10337].start |
27958.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10337].end |
27958.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10337].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].start |
27959.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].end |
27962.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].text |
第三條這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].start |
27962.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].end |
27964.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].text |
就部門有要求這個學校依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].start |
27964.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].end |
27966.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].text |
辦理午餐跟食慾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].start |
27966.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].end |
27968.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].text |
那這個跟我的第三條的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[10342].start |
27968.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10342].end |
27969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10342].text |
相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[10343].start |
27969.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10343].end |
27970.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10343].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10344].start |
27970.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10344].end |
27972.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10344].text |
其實我剛剛附議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10345].start |
27972.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10345].end |
27973.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10345].text |
那個林一己委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].start |
27973.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].end |
27974.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].text |
我們就尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[10347].start |
27974.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10347].end |
27976.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10347].text |
就是照這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10348].start |
27977.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10348].end |
27978.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10348].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10349].start |
27979.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10349].end |
27981.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10349].text |
那個修法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].start |
27983.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].end |
27984.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].text |
一順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].start |
27985.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].end |
27986.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].start |
27986.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].end |
27988.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].text |
這條在我自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10353].start |
27988.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10353].end |
27991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10353].text |
我是有加上各級主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].start |
27991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].end |
27992.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].text |
因為我覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10355].start |
27992.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10355].end |
27996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10355].text |
如果學校午餐及飲食教育的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].start |
27996.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].end |
27999.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].text |
在政策面及經費部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].start |
27999.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].end |
28000.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].text |
也是有賴中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].start |
28000.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].end |
28003.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].text |
及地方主管機關來協助學校處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].start |
28003.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].end |
28005.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].text |
所以我才會在我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10360].start |
28005.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10360].end |
28007.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10360].text |
這個學校的前面的加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].start |
28007.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].end |
28009.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].text |
各級主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].start |
28009.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].end |
28010.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].text |
那因為教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10363].start |
28010.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10363].end |
28012.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10363].text |
建議的條文是只有寫學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].start |
28012.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].end |
28014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].text |
那我是建議這樣子加 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].start |
28014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].end |
28016.18 |
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但是如果教育部覺得說 |
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28016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].end |
28017.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].text |
他們的學校 |
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28017.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10367].end |
28019.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10367].text |
寫上學校這樣的量能是足夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].start |
28019.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].end |
28020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].text |
我沒有意見 |
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28020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].end |
28020.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].start |
28025.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].end |
28026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].text |
陳培喻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].start |
28026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].end |
28026.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].text |
謝謝 |
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28026.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].end |
28027.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].start |
28027.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].end |
28028.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].start |
28028.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].end |
28029.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].text |
第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].start |
28029.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].end |
28032.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].text |
我其實跟修法委員有一樣的擔心 |
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28032.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].end |
28035.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].text |
因為我知道教育局處會議上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].start |
28035.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].end |
28038.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].text |
或者是因為現在22個縣市的營養午餐 |
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28038.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10378].end |
28039.07 |
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都是免費 |
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28039.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10379].end |
28040.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10379].text |
如果我們的條文 |
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28040.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].end |
28042.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].text |
現在還是寫原本的學校 |
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28042.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].end |
28043.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].text |
我其實會有一些擔心 |
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28043.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].end |
28045.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].text |
所以我也想要懇請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].start |
28045.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].end |
28048.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].text |
待會是不是在每一個委員都發言後 |
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28048.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].end |
28049.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].text |
讓國教署來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].start |
28049.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].end |
28051.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].text |
目前教育部的版本裡面 |
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28051.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].end |
28053.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].text |
雖然原本是寫學校 |
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28053.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].end |
28058.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].text |
但是這個版本是在22個縣市都宣布免費之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].start |
28058.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].end |
28060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].text |
所以拜託教育部公開說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].start |
28060.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].end |
28062.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].text |
現在如果這樣寫的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].start |
28062.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].end |
28064.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].text |
會不會對學校造成困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].start |
28064.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].end |
28066.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].text |
未來我們在依法行政的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].start |
28066.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].end |
28068.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].text |
會不會是學校去承擔這麼多的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].start |
28068.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].end |
28069.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].start |
28069.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].end |
28069.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].start |
28071.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].end |
28072.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].text |
好 務事要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].start |
28075.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].end |
28077.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].text |
我進入我的條文之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].start |
28077.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].end |
28080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].text |
我是想先建議一下主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].start |
28080.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].end |
28083.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].text |
因為今天的版本有40個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].start |
28084.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].end |
28087.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].text |
那非常多的委員並不在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].start |
28087.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].end |
28090.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].text |
所以我們是不是能夠在程序上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].start |
28090.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].end |
28094.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].text |
就以在場的委員的版本來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].start |
28094.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].end |
28095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].text |
好 我覺得應該是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].start |
28095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].end |
28097.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].text |
因為譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].start |
28097.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].end |
28099.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].text |
您一直在講柯志文委員的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].start |
28099.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].end |
28101.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].text |
但柯志文不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].start |
28102.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].end |
28104.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].text |
你們其他委員不在場的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].start |
28104.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].end |
28106.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].text |
我們很難去兼顧他的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].start |
28108.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].end |
28109.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].text |
如果重視條文的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].start |
28109.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].end |
28110.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].text |
應當會在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].start |
28110.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].end |
28113.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].text |
所以我是希望就我們應當 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].start |
28113.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].end |
28117.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].text |
就進行有在場討論的委員的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].start |
28117.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].end |
28119.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].text |
那回到條文第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].start |
28119.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].end |
28122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].text |
我個人的提案第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].start |
28122.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].end |
28125.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].text |
我也主張在主體上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].start |
28125.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].end |
28128.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].text |
應當是學校及各級主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].start |
28128.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].end |
28130.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].text |
這是第一個主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].start |
28130.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].end |
28131.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].start |
28132.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].end |
28133.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].text |
學校及主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].start |
28133.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].end |
28135.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].text |
應依本條例規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].start |
28135.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].end |
28137.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].text |
辦理學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].start |
28137.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].end |
28140.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].text |
我是建議把午餐改為公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].start |
28141.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].end |
28143.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].text |
因為我認為這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].start |
28143.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].end |
28144.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].text |
也許這個法所明定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].start |
28144.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].end |
28146.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].text |
不是只有午餐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].start |
28146.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].end |
28149.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].text |
也許未來擴及其他的公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].start |
28149.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].end |
28150.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].text |
吳委員不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].start |
28150.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].end |
28151.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].text |
是第三條嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].start |
28151.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].end |
28153.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].text |
第三條 是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].start |
28153.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].end |
28155.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].text |
所以辦理學校公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].start |
28155.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].end |
28158.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].text |
及推動飲食教育工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].start |
28158.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].end |
28159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].text |
這是我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].start |
28159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].end |
28160.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].text |
所以第一個主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].start |
28160.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].end |
28163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].text |
學校及各級主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].start |
28163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].end |
28164.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].text |
第二個學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].start |
28164.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].end |
28168.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].text |
我具體建議應當改成學校公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].start |
28168.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].end |
28170.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].text |
供應餐食 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].start |
28170.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].end |
28172.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].text |
學校公餐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].start |
28172.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].end |
28173.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].text |
這是我的兩個主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].start |
28176.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].end |
28179.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].text |
不好意思 我補充報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].start |
28179.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].end |
28181.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].text |
我也覺得滿冤枉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].start |
28181.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].end |
28183.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].text |
這個修正動議是我寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].start |
28183.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].end |
28185.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].text |
名字我簽最大 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].start |
28185.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].end |
28186.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].text |
結果他們醫次人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].start |
28186.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].end |
28188.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].text |
給我列柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].start |
28188.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].end |
28189.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].text |
為主題案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].start |
28189.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].end |
28190.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].text |
這其實是我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].start |
28190.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].end |
28190.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].text |
但沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].start |
28190.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].end |
28192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].text |
還是跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].start |
28192.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].end |
28194.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].text |
不管是主題案人是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].start |
28194.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].end |
28195.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].text |
哪怕是柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].start |
28195.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].end |
28197.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].text |
我也很清楚在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].start |
28197.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].end |
28198.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].text |
我跟蔡順丞委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].start |
28198.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].end |
28200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].text |
也都是提案委員之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].start |
28200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].end |
28201.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].text |
連署委員之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].start |
28201.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].end |
28202.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].text |
所以我們在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].start |
28202.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].end |
28204.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].text |
這個版本也是等同於 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].start |
28204.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].end |
28207.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].text |
就是我們在處理我們的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].start |
28207.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].end |
28209.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].text |
所以我們已經整合了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].start |
28209.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].end |
28212.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].text |
幾乎三十幾位的委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].start |
28212.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].end |
28214.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].text |
就是以這份修正動議為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].start |
28214.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].end |
28216.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].text |
以上做簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].start |
28216.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].end |
28218.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].text |
那也拜託醫次人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].start |
28218.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].end |
28219.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].text |
下次問我一下名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].start |
28219.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].end |
28220.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].text |
我比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].start |
28220.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].end |
28222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].text |
怎麼會寫他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].start |
28222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].end |
28223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].text |
他簽我的主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].start |
28223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].end |
28225.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].text |
我已經很懊惱了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].start |
28225.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].end |
28225.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].text |
但沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].start |
28225.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].end |
28227.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].text |
這虧底就讓給他了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].start |
28228.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].end |
28228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].text |
NONE |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].start |
28229.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].end |
28231.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].text |
那個吳佩穎委員不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].start |
28232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].end |
28234.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].text |
這個第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].start |
28234.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].end |
28236.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].text |
有一些版本裡面有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].start |
28236.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].end |
28239.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].text |
文字是學校公參及飲食教育計畫 |
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28239.49 |
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28242.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].text |
但教育部版的建議文字是沒有 |
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28242.29 |
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28243.69 |
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那我覺得這可以討論 |
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28243.69 |
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28245.49 |
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因為之前我們在問的時候 |
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28245.49 |
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28248.09 |
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有一些學校的課程計畫 |
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28248.09 |
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28250.49 |
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就是對現場的老師來說 |
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28250.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].end |
28252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].text |
就是會造成更多的文書 |
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28252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].end |
28253.89 |
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作業跟行政負擔 |
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28253.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].end |
28254.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].text |
就是又要叫他寫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].start |
28254.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].end |
28255.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].text |
又要寫計畫這樣 |
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28255.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].end |
28258.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].text |
所以是不是一定有這個必要性 |
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28258.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].end |
28261.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].text |
然後以及說這個對我們在實質上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].start |
28261.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].end |
28263.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].text |
這個公參跟飲食教育是不是 |
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28263.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].end |
28265.89 |
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真的是有所幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].start |
28265.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].end |
28268.89 |
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是不是一定要寫這個計畫的文字 |
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28268.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].end |
28270.49 |
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這個我覺得是可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].start |
28270.49 |
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28271.89 |
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我的建議是說 |
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28271.89 |
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28274.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].text |
看起來沒有說非要不可的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].start |
28274.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].end |
28276.89 |
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是建議還是依照這個教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].start |
28276.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].end |
28278.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].text |
但可以讓大家一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].start |
28281.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].end |
28283.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].text |
主席想補充發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].start |
28283.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].end |
28286.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].text |
我想要呼應一下剛才吳思達委員的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].start |
28286.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].end |
28288.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].text |
我要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].start |
28288.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].end |
28290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].text |
如果真的這麼在意的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].start |
28290.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].end |
28292.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].text |
他們應該今天要在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].start |
28292.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].end |
28294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].text |
但很可惜現在國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].start |
28294.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].end |
28296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].text |
只有羅庭委員在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].start |
28296.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].end |
28297.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].text |
葉原子委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].start |
28297.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].end |
28298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].text |
葛如君 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].start |
28298.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].end |
28299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].text |
謝龍介 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].start |
28299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].end |
28300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].text |
柯芝恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].start |
28300.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].end |
28301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].text |
羅志強都不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].start |
28301.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].end |
28302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].text |
所以我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].start |
28302.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].end |
28303.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].text |
如果委員主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].start |
28303.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].end |
28306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].text |
你堅持用你們所謂整合好的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].start |
28306.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].end |
28307.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].text |
進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].start |
28307.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].end |
28310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].text |
我覺得對於今天所有全程出席的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].start |
28310.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].end |
28312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].text |
非常非常的不公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].start |
28312.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].end |
28315.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].text |
那當然大家的版本都在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].start |
28315.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].end |
28317.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].text |
而且我們人也在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].start |
28317.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].end |
28319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].text |
我們不是只有版本在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].start |
28319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].end |
28321.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].text |
就算主席覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].start |
28322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].end |
28324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].text |
這樣討論很浪費時間很花時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].start |
28324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].end |
28326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].text |
但我想主席你既然都要排案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].start |
28326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].end |
28328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].text |
是不是就尊重今天有出席的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].start |
28328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].end |
28331.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].text |
請讓我們回到各自的版本來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].start |
28331.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].end |
28333.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].text |
那當然我們最後尊重教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].start |
28333.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].end |
28335.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].text |
跟大家今天所有出席的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].start |
28335.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].end |
28337.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].text |
我們可以寫定一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].start |
28337.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].end |
28339.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].text |
而不是讓您單獨的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].start |
28339.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].end |
28341.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].text |
就以您或者是柯芝恩的版本為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].start |
28341.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].end |
28343.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].text |
以上我覺得我們還是要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].start |
28343.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].end |
28345.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].text |
每一個出席的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].start |
28345.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].end |
28347.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].text |
才是實質的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].start |
28347.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].end |
28348.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].text |
當然有版本很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].start |
28348.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].end |
28350.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].text |
可是如果對於文字也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].start |
28350.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].end |
28352.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].text |
對於實行的細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].start |
28352.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].end |
28354.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].text |
對於未來行政的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].start |
28354.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].end |
28356.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].text |
有任何的關注任何的擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].start |
28356.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].end |
28358.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].text |
我認為都應該要逐條的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].start |
28358.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].end |
28360.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].text |
出席說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].start |
28360.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].end |
28362.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].text |
所以我拜託公開呼籲主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].start |
28362.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].end |
28364.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].text |
請不要以您所謂手上這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].start |
28364.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].end |
28366.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].text |
為今天討論的主要內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].start |
28371.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].end |
28373.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].text |
曾俊仲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].start |
28375.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].end |
28377.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].text |
針對那個第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].start |
28377.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].end |
28379.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].text |
稍微再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].start |
28379.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].end |
28381.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].text |
剛剛應該是施遙委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].start |
28381.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].end |
28383.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].text |
有提到用公參 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].start |
28383.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].end |
28385.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].text |
那這個我個人也贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].start |
28385.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].end |
28387.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].text |
那在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].start |
28387.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].end |
28389.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].text |
在修正動議這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].start |
28389.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].end |
28391.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].text |
這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].start |
28391.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].end |
28393.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].text |
有提到一個實龍教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].start |
28393.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].end |
28395.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].text |
那我覺得這個實龍教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].start |
28395.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].end |
28397.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].text |
對學生來講也是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].start |
28397.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].end |
28399.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].text |
所以在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].start |
28399.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].end |
28401.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].text |
有補充一些有關於學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].start |
28401.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].end |
28403.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].text |
一些需要接受的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].start |
28403.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].end |
28405.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].text |
還有他的一個健康的一個依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].start |
28405.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].end |
28407.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].text |
我個人是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].start |
28407.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].end |
28409.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].text |
應該把它納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].start |
28409.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].end |
28411.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].text |
更清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].start |
28411.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].end |
28413.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].text |
這些依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].start |
28413.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].end |
28415.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].start |
28417.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].end |
28419.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].text |
好 還有委員有提案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].start |
28421.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].end |
28423.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].text |
我們請下一步說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].start |
28427.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].end |
28429.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].text |
謝謝昭委 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].start |
28429.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].end |
28431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].text |
就剛剛所有委員所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].start |
28431.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].end |
28433.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].text |
有四個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].start |
28433.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].end |
28435.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].text |
很快跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].start |
28435.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].end |
28437.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].text |
第一個問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].start |
28437.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].end |
28439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].text |
各級主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].start |
28439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].end |
28441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].text |
部長剛才有特別說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].start |
28441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].end |
28443.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].text |
這個因為在2025 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].start |
28443.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].end |
28445.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].text |
我們在提這個建議版本的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].start |
28445.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].end |
28447.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].text |
只有10縣市是免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].start |
28447.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].end |
28449.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].text |
到今天在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].start |
28449.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].end |
28451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].text |
就如其他委員也觀察到的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].start |
28451.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].end |
28453.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].text |
是22縣市全面實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].start |
28453.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].end |
28455.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].text |
那早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].start |
28455.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].end |
28457.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].text |
所有委員都有注意到未來的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].start |
28457.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].end |
28459.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].text |
可能跟地方政府還有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].start |
28459.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].end |
28461.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].text |
需要介入或是關心的 |
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28461.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].end |
28463.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].text |
所以這個我們建議可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].start |
28463.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].end |
28465.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].text |
放主管機關在前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].start |
28465.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].end |
28467.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].text |
第二點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].start |
28467.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].end |
28469.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].text |
有關公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].start |
28469.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].end |
28471.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].text |
午餐這一些字眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].start |
28471.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].end |
28473.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].text |
那以現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].start |
28473.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].end |
28475.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].text |
法條是寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].start |
28475.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].end |
28477.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].text |
學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].start |
28477.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].end |
28479.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].text |
及飲食調理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].start |
28479.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].end |
28481.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].text |
那我們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].start |
28481.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].end |
28483.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].text |
以學校其實都已經很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].start |
28483.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].end |
28485.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].text |
現行大體上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].start |
28485.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].end |
28487.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].text |
在整體公餐或整部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].start |
28487.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].end |
28489.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].text |
相關的作業中 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].start |
28490.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].end |
28492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].text |
基本上也比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].start |
28492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].end |
28494.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].text |
是回到條例的本文 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].start |
28494.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].end |
28496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].text |
還有他的主旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].start |
28496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].end |
28498.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].text |
以及他的標題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].start |
28498.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].end |
28500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].text |
所以我們建議是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].start |
28500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].end |
28502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].text |
讓學校的老師不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].start |
28502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].end |
28504.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].text |
工作的夥伴不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].start |
28504.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].end |
28506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].text |
我們還是回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].start |
28506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].end |
28508.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].text |
本條例的主旨還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].start |
28508.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].end |
28510.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].text |
午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].start |
28510.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].end |
28512.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].text |
第三點配以委員有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].start |
28512.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].end |
28514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].text |
裡面有要寫計畫等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].start |
28514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].end |
28516.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].text |
的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].start |
28516.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].end |
28518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].text |
這可能會比較不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].start |
28518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].end |
28520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].text |
學校在公餐這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].start |
28520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].end |
28522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].text |
最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].start |
28522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].end |
28524.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].text |
相關的招標或相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].start |
28524.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].end |
28526.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].text |
處理上已經有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].start |
28526.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].end |
28528.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].text |
很辛苦的過程了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].start |
28528.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].end |
28530.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].text |
那可能不用再特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].start |
28530.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].end |
28532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].text |
額外再寫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].start |
28532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].end |
28534.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].text |
此外如果涉及到飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].start |
28534.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].end |
28536.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].text |
不管是課程或相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].start |
28536.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].end |
28538.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].text |
本來就有課程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].start |
28538.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].end |
28540.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].text |
所以我們建議不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].start |
28540.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].end |
28542.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].text |
再特別請學校還要再特別寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].start |
28542.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].end |
28544.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].text |
計畫所以以上三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].start |
28544.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].end |
28546.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].text |
不管各級主管教育機關或學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].start |
28546.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].end |
28548.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].text |
不要再寫計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].start |
28548.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].end |
28550.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].text |
大概做這樣的三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].start |
28550.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].end |
28552.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].text |
至於第四點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].start |
28552.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].end |
28554.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].text |
委員這邊有提案說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].start |
28554.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].end |
28556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].text |
病得結合這個後段 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].start |
28556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].end |
28558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].start |
28558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].end |
28560.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].text |
懇請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].start |
28560.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].end |
28562.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].text |
在第一段主旨的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].start |
28562.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].end |
28564.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].text |
就是第一條主旨時會提過一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].start |
28564.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].end |
28566.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].text |
等一下在第五條的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].start |
28566.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].end |
28568.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].text |
也會再提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].start |
28568.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].end |
28570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].text |
類似飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].start |
28570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].end |
28572.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].text |
是不是這一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].start |
28572.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].end |
28574.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].text |
就不要重複讓學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].start |
28574.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].end |
28576.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].text |
不要讓學校擔心說好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].start |
28576.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].end |
28578.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].text |
一直不管是第一條第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].start |
28578.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].end |
28580.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].text |
等一下第五條好像一直要學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].start |
28580.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].end |
28582.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].text |
要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].start |
28582.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].end |
28584.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].text |
提醒他沒有好多事情要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].start |
28584.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].end |
28586.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].text |
其實這一條實在處理的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].start |
28586.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].end |
28588.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].text |
做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].start |
28588.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].end |
28590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].text |
午餐的這件事的主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].start |
28590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].end |
28592.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].text |
包含主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].start |
28592.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].end |
28594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].text |
和學校其他講事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].start |
28594.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].end |
28596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].text |
的部分是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].start |
28596.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].end |
28598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].text |
不要一直讓學校已經在辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].start |
28598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].end |
28600.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].text |
這個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].start |
28600.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].end |
28602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].text |
幫忙學生的整體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].start |
28602.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].end |
28604.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].text |
的午餐的協助了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].start |
28604.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].end |
28606.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].text |
不用在這邊再重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].start |
28606.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].end |
28608.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].text |
在主體之外再提事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].start |
28608.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].end |
28610.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].text |
以上補充謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].start |
28611.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].end |
28613.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].text |
好 還沒委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].start |
28616.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].end |
28618.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].text |
好 那有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].start |
28620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].end |
28622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].text |
對於這一個條文有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].start |
28622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].end |
28624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].text |
那大家都有自己的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].start |
28624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].end |
28626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].text |
那我們就是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].start |
28626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].end |
28628.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].text |
送院會協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].start |
28630.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].end |
28632.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].text |
好 第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].start |
28633.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].end |
28635.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].text |
第四條台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].start |
28635.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].end |
28637.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].text |
第四條等第十七個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].start |
28637.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].end |
28639.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].text |
以及委員羅廷維等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].start |
28639.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].end |
28641.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].text |
所提修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].start |
28641.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].end |
28643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].text |
不好意思因為我剛剛有抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].start |
28643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].end |
28645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].text |
那真的是我寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].start |
28645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].end |
28647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].text |
那所以這部分提案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].start |
28647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].end |
28649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].text |
應該是以我為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].start |
28649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].end |
28651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].text |
那也希望說這個部分跟大家特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].start |
28651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].end |
28653.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].text |
那我們來看到第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].start |
28655.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].end |
28657.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].text |
第四條本條條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].start |
28658.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].end |
28660.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].text |
那麻煩大家可以給予意見謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].start |
28662.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].end |
28664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].text |
教育部的條文版本是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].start |
28664.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].end |
28666.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].text |
本條例所稱學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].start |
28666.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].end |
28668.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].text |
指高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].start |
28669.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].end |
28671.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].text |
這叫一部建議的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].start |
28673.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].end |
28675.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].text |
NOT |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].start |
28674.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].end |
28676.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].start |
28676.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].end |
28678.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].text |
陳培瑋請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].start |
28678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].end |
28680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].start |
28680.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].end |
28682.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].text |
主席我想要先問一下剛前一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].start |
28682.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].end |
28684.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].text |
因為你很快速的就說保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].start |
28684.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].end |
28686.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].text |
在處理可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].start |
28687.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].end |
28689.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].text |
教文過去在幾次在審 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].start |
28689.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].end |
28691.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].text |
逐條的時候其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].start |
28692.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].end |
28694.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].text |
可能我們在一些文字上都可以先進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].start |
28694.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].end |
28696.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].text |
如果真的在文字討論上都沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].start |
28696.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].end |
28698.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].text |
才會送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].start |
28698.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].end |
28700.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].text |
但如果主席今天的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].start |
28700.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].end |
28702.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].text |
是採取每一條只要大家發言完 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].start |
28702.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].end |
28704.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].text |
連文字都不看 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].start |
28704.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].end |
28706.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].text |
也不談我們就送保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].start |
28706.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].end |
28708.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].text |
是這樣嗎等一下就會是這樣嗎我先問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].start |
28708.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].end |
28710.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].text |
先回應陳培瑋委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].start |
28710.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].end |
28712.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].text |
跟您報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].start |
28712.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].end |
28714.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].text |
沒有我們一定要尊重委員可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].start |
28714.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].end |
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剛剛在問大家有沒有意見的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].start |
28716.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].end |
28718.38 |
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那也沒有委員舉手 |
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28718.38 |
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要處理那所以 |
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28720.38 |
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28722.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].text |
因為大家意見不太一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].start |
28722.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].end |
28724.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].text |
所以我們就院會處理 |
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28724.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].end |
28726.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].text |
送協商所以我剛剛有第二次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].start |
28726.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].end |
28728.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].text |
詢問大家有沒有意見那那時候你們沒有舉手 |
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28728.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].end |
28730.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].text |
不好意思所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].start |
28730.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].end |
28732.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].text |
剛剛就這樣處理了好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].start |
28732.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].end |
28734.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].text |
接下來我們在處理第四條的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].start |
28734.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].end |
28736.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].text |
也請大家盡情的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].start |
28736.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].end |
28738.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].text |
然後對於這個文字上有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].start |
28738.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].end |
28740.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].text |
建議都可以說那我先 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].start |
28740.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].end |
28742.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].text |
就我的這個國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].start |
28742.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].end |
28744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].text |
跟民眾黨我們整合的會診 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].start |
28744.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].end |
28746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].text |
版本跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].start |
28746.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].end |
28748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].text |
從我們的這個修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].start |
28748.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].end |
28750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].text |
我們本條例所稱學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].start |
28750.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].end |
28752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].text |
公餐指學校辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].start |
28752.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].end |
28754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].text |
提供知學校午餐晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].start |
28754.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].end |
28756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].text |
寒假暑假 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].start |
28756.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].end |
28758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].text |
期間的公餐替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].start |
28758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].end |
28760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].text |
公餐以及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].start |
28760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].end |
28762.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].text |
經中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].start |
28762.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].end |
28764.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].text |
公告之餐食 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].start |
28764.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].end |
28766.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].text |
這是我們整合所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].start |
28766.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].end |
28768.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].text |
的版本那也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].start |
28768.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].end |
28770.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].text |
大家能夠參考那基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].start |
28770.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].end |
28772.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].text |
也不離教育部建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].start |
28772.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].end |
28774.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].text |
條文然後那我們是以他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].start |
28774.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].end |
28776.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].text |
作為底稿來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].start |
28776.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].end |
28778.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].text |
修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].start |
28778.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].end |
28780.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].text |
請大家參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].start |
28788.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].end |
28790.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].text |
請參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].start |
28789.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].end |
28791.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].start |
28791.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].end |
28793.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].text |
我還是先說一下我的版本 |
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28793.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].end |
28795.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].text |
跟一樣要希望教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].start |
28795.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].end |
28797.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].text |
希望主席留時間讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].start |
28797.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].end |
28799.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].text |
國教署回答目前我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].start |
28799.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].end |
28801.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].text |
現在寫的教育部的版本寫的比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].start |
28801.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].end |
28803.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].text |
簡單是指高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].start |
28803.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].end |
28805.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].text |
那事實上學校樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].start |
28805.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].end |
28807.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].text |
很多元所以在我的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].start |
28807.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].end |
28809.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].text |
其實提到了不同樣態的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].start |
28809.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].end |
28811.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].text |
包含公私立的高級中等學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].start |
28811.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].end |
28813.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].text |
學校型態的實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].start |
28813.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].end |
28815.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].text |
就是只公辦公營的實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].start |
28815.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].end |
28817.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].text |
教育或者是私立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].start |
28817.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].end |
28819.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].text |
實驗教育學校或是原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].start |
28819.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].end |
28821.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].text |
特殊教育學校其他金主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].start |
28821.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].end |
28823.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].text |
習慣認定適用的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].start |
28823.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].end |
28825.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].text |
那幼兒園的部分可能也 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].start |
28825.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].end |
28827.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].text |
會有涉及因為有非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].start |
28827.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].end |
28829.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].text |
多的國小裡面有設置幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].start |
28829.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].end |
28831.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].text |
所以這個部分待會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].start |
28831.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].end |
28833.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].text |
要拜託主席留時間讓國教署 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].start |
28833.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].end |
28835.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].text |
說明那另外我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].start |
28835.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].end |
28837.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].text |
現在在所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].start |
28837.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].end |
28839.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].text |
羅庭瑋委員的版本裡面其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].start |
28839.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].end |
28841.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].text |
把午餐晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].start |
28841.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].end |
28843.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].text |
寒暑假期間的公餐特定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].start |
28843.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].end |
28845.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].text |
甚至還有替代公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].start |
28845.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].end |
28847.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].text |
都包含進去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].start |
28847.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].end |
28849.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].text |
這個部分我其實也有一些擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].start |
28849.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].end |
28851.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].text |
在才化法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].start |
28851.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].end |
28853.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].text |
當然非常多的裁員都到地方去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].start |
28853.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].end |
28855.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].text |
但是地方政府是不是有認知到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].start |
28855.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].end |
28857.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].text |
他們在跟召開 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].start |
28857.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].end |
28859.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].text |
開會的過程當中如果這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].start |
28859.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].end |
28861.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].text |
是今天才提出來的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].start |
28861.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].end |
28863.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].text |
是不是地方政府都清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].start |
28863.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].end |
28865.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].text |
未來他們要負擔學生們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].start |
28865.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].end |
28867.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].text |
的用餐並不會只有午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].start |
28867.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].end |
28869.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].text |
還包含晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].start |
28869.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].end |
28871.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].text |
寒暑假期間的公餐或是替代 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].start |
28871.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].end |
28873.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].text |
公餐這個部分也要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].start |
28873.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].end |
28875.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].text |
國教署公開說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].start |
28875.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].end |
28877.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].text |
最後三個我要補充說明的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].start |
28877.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].end |
28879.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].text |
我剛剛所謂的大家沒有意見是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].start |
28879.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].end |
28881.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].text |
我們本來以為其實是要回過頭來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].start |
28881.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].end |
28883.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].text |
在電視螢幕上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].start |
28883.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].end |
28885.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].text |
大家要去看逐個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].start |
28885.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].end |
28887.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].text |
要怎麼調整跟修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].start |
28887.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].end |
28889.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].text |
可是很快主席就記錄到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].start |
28889.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].end |
28891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].text |
好保留可是我要提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].start |
28891.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].end |
28893.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].text |
到底是保留送出委員會 |
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28893.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].end |
28895.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].text |
日後再協商還是 |
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28895.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].end |
28897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].text |
保留等到委員會之後我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].start |
28897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].end |
28899.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].text |
逐條進行review跟 |
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28899.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].end |
28901.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].text |
文字的協商因為確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].start |
28901.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].end |
28903.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].text |
條文很多然後很多事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].start |
28903.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].end |
28905.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].text |
我認為地方政府的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].start |
28905.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].end |
28907.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].text |
可能也還沒有收集完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].start |
28907.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].end |
28909.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].text |
所以我是不是就可以先行建議 |
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28909.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].end |
28911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].text |
我希望今天我們後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].start |
28911.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].end |
28913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].text |
可能大家在文字上沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].start |
28913.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].end |
28915.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].text |
在做法上還沒有共識的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].start |
28915.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].end |
28917.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].text |
應該還需要留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].start |
28917.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].end |
28919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].text |
裡面我們可以就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].start |
28919.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].end |
28921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].text |
整個法案全部都走完 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].start |
28921.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].end |
28923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].text |
之後再回頭來看 |
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28923.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].end |
28925.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].text |
然後再一次的委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].start |
28925.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].end |
28927.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].text |
再review如果再沒有共識的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].start |
28927.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].end |
28929.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].text |
才是送 |
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28929.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].end |
28931.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].text |
委員會出去協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].start |
28931.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].end |
28933.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].text |
以上我的建議是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].start |
28936.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].end |
28938.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].text |
好對不起主席還沒講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].start |
28938.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].end |
28940.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].text |
那我要再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].start |
28940.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].end |
28942.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].text |
今天所有在場的委員都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].start |
28942.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].end |
28944.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].text |
民進黨的委員當然我們看到蔡春雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].start |
28944.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].end |
28946.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].text |
跟羅庭的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].start |
28946.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].end |
28948.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].text |
可是很可惜不要把關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].start |
28948.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].end |
28950.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].text |
兒少營養午餐全役的葉元之 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].start |
28950.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].end |
28952.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].text |
委員還有葛如君 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].start |
28952.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].end |
28954.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].text |
謝龍介柯芝恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].start |
28954.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].end |
28956.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].text |
也都沒有來不知道他們去哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].start |
28956.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].end |
28958.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].text |
我認為要關心營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].start |
28958.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].end |
28960.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].text |
就請坐下來在很多細節上一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].start |
28960.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].end |
28962.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].text |
討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].start |
28962.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].end |
28964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].text |
好請吳教員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].start |
28964.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].end |
28966.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].text |
因為條文非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].start |
28966.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].end |
28968.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].text |
我看到第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].start |
28968.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].end |
28970.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].text |
多數的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].start |
28970.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].end |
28972.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].text |
會載民 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].start |
28972.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].end |
28974.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].text |
就是學校公餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].start |
28974.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].end |
28976.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].text |
各級學校大概會列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].start |
28976.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].end |
28978.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].text |
而還包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].start |
28978.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].end |
28980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].text |
從幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].start |
28980.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].end |
28982.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].text |
也列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].start |
28982.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].end |
28984.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].text |
然後公立學校私立學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].start |
28984.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].end |
28986.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].text |
也列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].start |
28986.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].end |
28988.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].text |
實驗學校也列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].start |
28988.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].end |
28990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].text |
原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].start |
28990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].end |
28992.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].text |
也載民 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].start |
28992.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].end |
28994.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].text |
然後特殊教育學校也載民 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].start |
28994.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].end |
28996.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].text |
那教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].start |
28996.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].end |
28998.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].text |
就非常的簡要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].start |
28998.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].end |
29000.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].text |
本條例所稱學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].start |
29000.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].end |
29002.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].text |
只高級中等以下的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].start |
29003.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].end |
29005.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].text |
那教育部為什麼選擇一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].start |
29005.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].end |
29007.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].text |
一個非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].start |
29007.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].end |
29009.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].text |
寒闊的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].start |
29009.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].end |
29011.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].text |
來處理它 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].start |
29011.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].end |
29013.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].text |
那您的意思是包括了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].start |
29013.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].end |
29015.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].text |
多數委員所提的這些學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].start |
29015.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].end |
29017.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].text |
都在規範的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].start |
29017.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].end |
29019.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].text |
學校內涵裡面嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].start |
29020.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].end |
29022.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].text |
好我擔心會不會漏掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].start |
29023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].end |
29025.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].text |
所以這個要請主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].start |
29025.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].end |
29027.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].text |
做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].start |
29029.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].end |
29031.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].text |
好請我們的主管機關說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].start |
29031.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].end |
29033.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].start |
29035.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].end |
29037.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].start |
29037.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].end |
29039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].text |
剛剛召委等 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].start |
29039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].end |
29041.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].text |
我們包含召委的版本跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].start |
29041.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].end |
29043.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].text |
發言的委員總共可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].start |
29043.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].end |
29045.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].text |
歸納至少有三點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].start |
29045.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].end |
29047.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].text |
我們要回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].start |
29047.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].end |
29049.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].text |
第一個是對學校的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].start |
29049.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].end |
29051.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].text |
那一般在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].start |
29051.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].end |
29053.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].text |
我們本委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].start |
29053.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].end |
29055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].text |
對學校的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].start |
29055.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].end |
29057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].text |
建築各個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].start |
29057.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].end |
29059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].text |
那麼有兩種呈現的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].start |
29059.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].end |
29061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].text |
有一種是直接在法條內 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].start |
29061.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].end |
29063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].text |
有一種是寫在立法的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].start |
29063.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].end |
29065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].text |
那以往我們對於學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].start |
29065.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].end |
29067.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].text |
不管是學校衛生法以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].start |
29067.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].end |
29069.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].text |
在學校這兩個字的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].start |
29069.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].end |
29071.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].start |
29071.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].end |
29073.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].text |
它有一個比較明確的定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].start |
29073.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].end |
29075.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].text |
就是它未含幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].start |
29075.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].end |
29077.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].text |
以及非學校形態的實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].start |
29077.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].end |
29079.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].text |
那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].start |
29079.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].end |
29081.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].text |
在上一次也有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].start |
29081.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].end |
29083.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].text |
軍警少年校正學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].start |
29083.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].end |
29085.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].text |
的相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].start |
29085.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].end |
29087.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].text |
也有做一點說明說他們公參形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].start |
29087.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].end |
29089.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].text |
比較特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].start |
29089.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].end |
29091.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].text |
因此我們以往有的體力會寫在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].start |
29091.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].end |
29093.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].text |
立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].start |
29093.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].end |
29095.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].text |
一是它未含幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].start |
29095.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].end |
29097.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].text |
二它沒有含學校形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].start |
29097.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].end |
29099.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].text |
實驗教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].start |
29099.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].end |
29101.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].text |
以及像軍事警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].start |
29101.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].end |
29103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].text |
以及少年校正學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].start |
29103.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].end |
29105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].text |
等它非屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].start |
29105.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].end |
29107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].text |
本條例規範的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].start |
29107.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].end |
29109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].text |
因為公參形態比較特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].start |
29109.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].end |
29111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].text |
那個會予以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].start |
29111.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].end |
29113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].text |
立法說明這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].start |
29113.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].end |
29115.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].text |
予以做說明跟排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].start |
29115.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].end |
29117.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].text |
那麼第二點是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].start |
29118.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].end |
29120.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].text |
北宇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].start |
29120.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].end |
29122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].text |
他問了一個非常清楚的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].start |
29122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].end |
29124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].text |
在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].start |
29124.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].end |
29126.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].text |
召委跟科生委員等 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].start |
29126.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].end |
29128.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].text |
所提的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].start |
29129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].end |
29131.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].text |
有擴大了本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].start |
29131.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].end |
29133.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].text |
可能要公參的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].start |
29133.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].end |
29135.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].text |
面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].start |
29135.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].end |
29137.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].text |
包含晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].start |
29138.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].end |
29140.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].text |
韓屬醬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].start |
29139.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].end |
29141.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].text |
甚至替代性公參 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].start |
29142.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].end |
29144.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].text |
這一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].start |
29144.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].end |
29146.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].text |
陳北宇委員很清楚的詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].start |
29146.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].end |
29148.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].text |
是否有跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].start |
29148.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].end |
29150.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].text |
有一些討論溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].start |
29150.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].end |
29152.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].text |
抱歉因為這一個是剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].start |
29152.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].end |
29154.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].text |
看到的版本我要非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].start |
29154.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].end |
29156.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].text |
坦率的說是還沒有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].start |
29156.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].end |
29158.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].text |
地方政府就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].start |
29158.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].end |
29160.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].text |
委員所提案的第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].start |
29160.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].end |
29162.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].text |
進行進一步的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].start |
29162.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].end |
29164.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].text |
會商那以目前初 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].start |
29164.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].end |
29166.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].text |
看到的文字現行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].start |
29166.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].end |
29168.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].text |
各縣市公參的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].start |
29169.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].end |
29171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].text |
情況可能以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].start |
29171.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].end |
29173.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].text |
晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].start |
29173.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].end |
29175.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].text |
替代性公參這兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].start |
29175.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].end |
29177.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].text |
非常會比較少中 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].start |
29178.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].end |
29180.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].text |
那以韓屬醬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].start |
29180.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].end |
29182.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].text |
這一個在以往我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].start |
29182.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].end |
29184.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].text |
做弱勢照顧時就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].start |
29184.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].end |
29186.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].text |
剩餘經費可能在有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].start |
29186.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].end |
29188.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].text |
縣市在韓屬醬可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].start |
29188.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].end |
29190.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].text |
會有一些經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].start |
29190.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].end |
29192.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].text |
來做處理譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].start |
29192.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].end |
29194.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].text |
餐券但是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].start |
29194.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].end |
29196.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].text |
像晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].start |
29196.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].end |
29198.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].text |
那個就會變成是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].start |
29198.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].end |
29200.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].text |
留校的才比較有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].start |
29200.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].end |
29202.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].text |
算不是那麼普遍 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].start |
29202.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].end |
29204.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].text |
替代性公參這個在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].start |
29204.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].end |
29206.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].text |
定義上又更為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].start |
29206.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].end |
29208.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].text |
比較新可能要請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].start |
29208.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].end |
29210.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].text |
在於說給我們指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].start |
29210.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].end |
29212.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].text |
那以就這整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].start |
29212.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].end |
29214.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].text |
第二項來講以地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].start |
29214.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].end |
29216.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].text |
政府可能這個要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].start |
29216.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].end |
29218.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].text |
22縣市的形態因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].start |
29218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].end |
29220.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].text |
目前剛聽到會比較多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].start |
29220.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].end |
29222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].text |
那麼也是多增加來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].start |
29222.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].end |
29224.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].text |
讓學校可能也比較辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].start |
29225.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].end |
29227.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].text |
可能這個要給我們時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].start |
29227.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].end |
29229.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].text |
跟地方好好的做一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].start |
29229.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].end |
29231.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].text |
也讓我們多聆聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].start |
29231.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].end |
29233.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].text |
意見以上補充謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].start |
29236.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].end |
29238.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].text |
好那所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].start |
29238.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].end |
29240.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].start |
29240.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].end |
29242.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].text |
看螢幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].start |
29242.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].end |
29244.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].text |
因為委員說看螢幕嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].start |
29244.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].end |
29246.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].text |
那我們就照螢幕上面的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].start |
29248.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].end |
29250.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].text |
那我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].start |
29249.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].end |
29251.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].text |
T E |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].start |
29251.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].end |
29253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].text |
委員有沒有什麼建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].start |
29254.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].end |
29256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].text |
我主席好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].start |
29256.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].end |
29258.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].text |
如果按照署長剛剛的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].start |
29258.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].end |
29260.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].start |
29260.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].end |
29262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].text |
你說根據學校的這個定義其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].start |
29262.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].end |
29264.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].text |
是在其他的相關辦法都寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].start |
29264.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].end |
29266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].text |
那其他委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].start |
29266.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].end |
29268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].text |
所擔心的這些事情如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].start |
29268.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].end |
29270.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].text |
就這個寫法沒有意見大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].start |
29270.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].end |
29272.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].text |
覺得可以的話我基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].start |
29272.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].end |
29274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].text |
沒有太多的意見那只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].start |
29274.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].end |
29276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].text |
說現在這個寫法也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].start |
29276.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].end |
29278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].text |
因為高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].start |
29278.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].end |
29280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].text |
他的主責其實在地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].start |
29280.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].end |
29282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].text |
政府對吧署長他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10965].start |
29282.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10965].end |
29284.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10965].text |
很多行政措施的主責是在地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10966].start |
29284.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10966].end |
29286.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10966].text |
政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[10967].start |
29287.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10967].end |
29289.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10967].text |
發行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10968].start |
29291 |
| transcript.whisperx[10968].end |
29293 |
| transcript.whisperx[10968].text |
以三千八百多個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10969].start |
29293 |
| transcript.whisperx[10969].end |
29295 |
| transcript.whisperx[10969].text |
高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[10970].start |
29295 |
| transcript.whisperx[10970].end |
29297 |
| transcript.whisperx[10970].text |
高中部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10971].start |
29297 |
| transcript.whisperx[10971].end |
29299 |
| transcript.whisperx[10971].text |
教育部大概占三分之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[10972].start |
29299 |
| transcript.whisperx[10972].end |
29301 |
| transcript.whisperx[10972].text |
那國中小部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10973].start |
29301 |
| transcript.whisperx[10973].end |
29303 |
| transcript.whisperx[10973].text |
地方政府的學校大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[10974].start |
29303 |
| transcript.whisperx[10974].end |
29305 |
| transcript.whisperx[10974].text |
占九成九大概是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10975].start |
29305 |
| transcript.whisperx[10975].end |
29307 |
| transcript.whisperx[10975].text |
好所以看起來確實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].start |
29307 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].end |
29309 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].text |
地方政府如果都溝通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10977].start |
29309 |
| transcript.whisperx[10977].end |
29311 |
| transcript.whisperx[10977].text |
也都沒有意見那我認為第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10978].start |
29311 |
| transcript.whisperx[10978].end |
29313 |
| transcript.whisperx[10978].text |
如果按照這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10979].start |
29313 |
| transcript.whisperx[10979].end |
29315 |
| transcript.whisperx[10979].text |
也沒有意見的話我個人沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10980].start |
29315 |
| transcript.whisperx[10980].end |
29317 |
| transcript.whisperx[10980].text |
那不過就是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].start |
29316.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].end |
29318.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].text |
羅庭瑋委員的版本裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].start |
29318.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].end |
29320.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].text |
就是這個修正動議我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].start |
29320.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].end |
29322.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].text |
大家才看到這個修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].start |
29322.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].end |
29324.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].text |
我不確定委員是不是有堅持一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10985].start |
29324.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10985].end |
29326.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10985].text |
放進來如果有的話我覺得是要提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10986].start |
29326.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10986].end |
29328.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10986].text |
討論的就是你的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10987].start |
29328.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10987].end |
29330.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10987].text |
第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[10988].start |
29330.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10988].end |
29332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10988].text |
那我對於這個電視上的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10989].start |
29332.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10989].end |
29334.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10989].text |
如果教育部覺得OK我沒有意見看其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10990].start |
29334.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10990].end |
29336.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10990].text |
好是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].start |
29336.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].end |
29338.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].text |
目前螢幕上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].start |
29338.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].end |
29340.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].text |
教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].start |
29340.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].end |
29342.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].text |
版本寫上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].start |
29342.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].end |
29344.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].text |
那是不是也請委員參佐一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].start |
29344.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].end |
29346.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].text |
我們國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].start |
29346.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].end |
29348.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].text |
跟民眾黨整合的一個版本的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].start |
29354.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].end |
29356.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].text |
大家參考一下如果沒有拿到的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].start |
29367.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].end |
29369.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].start |
29369.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].end |
29371.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].text |
那現場呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].start |
29371.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].end |
29373.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].text |
有教育部的版本那也有委員所提議的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].start |
29375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].end |
29377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].text |
版本可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[11002].start |
29377.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11002].end |
29379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11002].text |
那是不是有委員提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].start |
29379.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].end |
29381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].text |
要以教育部的版本來通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11004].start |
29381.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11004].end |
29383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11004].text |
同意用教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11005].start |
29383.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11005].end |
29385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11005].text |
好有委員提議要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].start |
29385.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].end |
29387.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].text |
教育部的版本那有委員有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11007].start |
29389.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11007].end |
29391.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11007].text |
好請參眾委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11008].start |
29392.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11008].end |
29394.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11008].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11009].start |
29394.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11009].end |
29396.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11009].text |
我剛剛看到這個修正動議裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11010].start |
29396.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11010].end |
29398.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11010].text |
有談到這個晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11011].start |
29398.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11011].end |
29400.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11011].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11012].start |
29400.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11012].end |
29402.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11012].text |
在銀林縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11013].start |
29402.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11013].end |
29404.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11013].text |
其他縣市我是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[11014].start |
29404.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11014].end |
29406.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11014].text |
那銀林縣呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11015].start |
29406.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11015].end |
29408.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11015].text |
他小學呢他都會有所謂的夜光天使 |
| transcript.whisperx[11016].start |
29408.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11016].end |
29410.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11016].text |
那這個夜光天使 |
| transcript.whisperx[11017].start |
29410.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11017].end |
29412.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11017].text |
小朋友就留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11018].start |
29412.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11018].end |
29414.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11018].text |
比較弱勢的小朋友留到晚上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11019].start |
29414.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11019].end |
29416.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11019].text |
八點 |
| transcript.whisperx[11020].start |
29416.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11020].end |
29418.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11020].text |
那這個晚餐呢如果說也依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[11021].start |
29418.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11021].end |
29420.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11021].text |
我們的午餐的這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11022].start |
29420.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11022].end |
29422.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11022].text |
的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11023].start |
29422.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11023].end |
29424.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11023].text |
辦法來規範這個晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].start |
29424.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].end |
29426.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].text |
我覺得也是對學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[11025].start |
29426.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11025].end |
29428.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11025].text |
也是一種保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[11026].start |
29428.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11026].end |
29430.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11026].text |
所以像有一些 |
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29430.33 |
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晚餐他是 |
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29432.33 |
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跟著學习一起做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11029].start |
29434.33 |
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29436.33 |
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所以這個晚餐是不是可以 |
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29436.33 |
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29438.33 |
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在 |
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29441.07 |
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29443.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11031].text |
第四條跟委員報到 |
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29443.07 |
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29445.07 |
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因為我們的版本有寫晚餐 |
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29445.88 |
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29447.88 |
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對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11034].start |
29447.4 |
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29449.4 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11035].start |
29449.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11035].end |
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那因為有委員提案 |
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29451.4 |
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要用教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11037].start |
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版本那也有委員 |
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29455.4 |
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29457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11038].text |
對於自己的版本有一些意見 |
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29457.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].end |
29459.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].text |
那所以我們就本案 |
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29459.4 |
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29461.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11040].text |
保留送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11041].start |
29462.6 |
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29464.6 |
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主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11042].start |
29463.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11042].end |
29465.7 |
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等一下我都要立刻在你講完話之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].start |
29465.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].end |
29467.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].text |
我現在都要高度關注你的每一句講話的句點 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].start |
29467.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].end |
29469.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].text |
然後我要馬上舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[11045].start |
29469.7 |
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29471.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11045].text |
請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11046].start |
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29473.7 |
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我剛剛有一個建議我先說謝謝主席參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].start |
29473.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].end |
29475.7 |
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我剛剛有建議就是說我們每一個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11048].start |
29475.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11048].end |
29477.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11048].text |
要回去看對 雙螢幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11049].start |
29477.7 |
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29479.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11049].text |
對 跨螢幕 但是第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].start |
29479.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].end |
29481.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].text |
我要建議是不是根據教文過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].start |
29481.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].end |
29483.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].text |
還蠻常在這種大部分案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].start |
29483.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].end |
29485.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].text |
修法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].start |
29485.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].end |
29487.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].text |
我們其實很多條文會在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].start |
29487.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].end |
29489.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].text |
看完之後再回來在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].start |
29489.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].end |
29491.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].text |
再review一遍我舉一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].start |
29491.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].end |
29493.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].text |
例子 之前在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].start |
29493.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].end |
29495.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].text |
柯志恩委員當招委 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].start |
29495.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].end |
29497.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].text |
的那個會期喔 學府法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].start |
29497.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].end |
29499.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].text |
其實他橫跨了兩個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].start |
29499.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].end |
29501.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].text |
那也是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].start |
29501.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].end |
29503.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].text |
專府人員的心思也好或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].start |
29503.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].end |
29505.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].text |
專府人員的師生筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].start |
29505.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].end |
29507.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].text |
其實地方政府跟中央政府真的花 |
| transcript.whisperx[11064].start |
29507.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11064].end |
29509.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11064].text |
很多的時間討論而且不同專業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].start |
29509.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].end |
29511.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].text |
老師進來也有不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].start |
29511.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].end |
29513.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].text |
所以我們真的花了非常非常多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].start |
29513.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].end |
29515.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].text |
在委員會裡面處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].start |
29515.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].end |
29517.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].text |
尤其是涉及到修大法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].start |
29517.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].end |
29519.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].text |
那當時學府法還只是修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].start |
29519.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].end |
29521.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].text |
還不是立新法 但現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].start |
29521.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].end |
29523.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].text |
不論是所謂的公參法或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].start |
29523.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].end |
29525.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].text |
營養午餐法anyway |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].start |
29525.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].end |
29527.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].text |
它其實是一個新的法 所以我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].start |
29527.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].end |
29529.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].text |
不是要再次懇請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].start |
29529.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].end |
29531.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].text |
我們不要就直接宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].start |
29531.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].end |
29533.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].text |
送出委員會之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].start |
29533.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].end |
29535.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].text |
送協商 我真的想要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].start |
29536.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].end |
29538.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].text |
我們整部法案走完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].start |
29538.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].end |
29540.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].text |
大家再回來review一次文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].start |
29540.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].end |
29542.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].text |
真的有高度 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].start |
29543.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].end |
29545.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].text |
沒有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].start |
29545.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].end |
29547.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].text |
或者是地方政府跟中央政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].start |
29547.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].end |
29549.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].text |
還沒有搞定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].start |
29549.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].end |
29551.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].text |
我們再送到協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].start |
29551.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].end |
29553.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].text |
我現在就舉一個例子喔主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].start |
29553.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].end |
29555.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].text |
你看你手上這一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].start |
29555.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].end |
29557.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].text |
你們今天提出來的修正動議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].start |
29557.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].end |
29559.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].text |
不論是你的簽名比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].start |
29559.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].end |
29561.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].text |
還是客製人委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].start |
29561.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].end |
29563.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].text |
佔了你的提案人的位置喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].start |
29563.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].end |
29565.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].text |
在你們的版本裡面 你們的第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].start |
29567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].end |
29569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].text |
寫的叫做公參 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].start |
29569.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].end |
29571.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].text |
但是到了第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].start |
29571.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].end |
29573.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].text |
寫的是學校午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].start |
29574.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].end |
29576.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].text |
那如果按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].start |
29576.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].end |
29578.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].text |
剛剛蔡村丑委員提到雲林的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].start |
29578.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].end |
29580.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].text |
那第四條跟第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].start |
29580.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].end |
29582.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].text |
就打架了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].start |
29582.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].end |
29584.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].text |
撞牆了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].start |
29584.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].end |
29586.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].text |
你知道我意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].start |
29586.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].end |
29588.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].text |
就變成你要求要供晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].start |
29588.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].end |
29590.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].text |
供寒暑假的公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].start |
29590.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].end |
29592.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].text |
還有替代公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].start |
29592.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].end |
29594.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].text |
可是當你第五條的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].start |
29594.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].end |
29596.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].text |
你又說在吃飯的時候還要推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].start |
29596.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].end |
29598.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].text |
飲食教育啊食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].start |
29598.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].end |
29600.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].text |
可是只有午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].start |
29600.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].end |
29602.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].text |
那我不懂假設未來真的第四條通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].start |
29602.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].end |
29604.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].text |
晚餐 寒暑假的公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].start |
29604.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].end |
29606.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].text |
替代公餐 這邊就不用管 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].start |
29606.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].end |
29608.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].text |
食農教育也不用管營養教育喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].start |
29608.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].end |
29610.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].text |
這樣聽起來很怪對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].start |
29610.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].end |
29612.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].text |
所以我才會說我們光是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].start |
29612.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].end |
29614.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].text |
自己提出來的修正動力就發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].start |
29614.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].end |
29616.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].text |
文字上的bug |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].start |
29616.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].end |
29618.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].text |
更何況未來所有三十幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].start |
29618.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].end |
29620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].text |
版本通過後如果我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].start |
29620.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].end |
29622.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].text |
不在委員會裡面在逐條針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].start |
29622.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].end |
29624.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].text |
文字或是前後的寫法做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].start |
29624.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].end |
29626.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].text |
我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].start |
29626.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].end |
29628.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].text |
送出去協商其實真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].start |
29628.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].end |
29630.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].text |
不是好事因為在協商的現場可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].start |
29630.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].end |
29632.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].text |
更沒有時間大家針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].start |
29632.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].end |
29634.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].text |
這麼多細節而且在協商的現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].start |
29634.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].end |
29636.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].text |
通常也不會是教文的本委 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].start |
29636.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].end |
29638.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].text |
可能會是三長去處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].start |
29638.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].end |
29640.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].text |
那根據我過去當三長的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].start |
29640.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].end |
29642.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].text |
我認為所有的教文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].start |
29642.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].end |
29644.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].text |
今天都已經出席這麼多人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].start |
29644.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].end |
29646.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].text |
我們就好好的在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].start |
29646.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].end |
29648.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].text |
把有問題的部分我們就先留在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].start |
29648.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].end |
29650.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].text |
教文委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].start |
29650.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].end |
29652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].text |
我覺得會是更專業而且 |
| transcript.whisperx[11134].start |
29652.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11134].end |
29654.87 |
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更認真的修法那我們再把 |
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高度爭議的部分送 |
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出委員會我覺得這是比較好的做法 |
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謝謝主席謝謝 |
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好所以委員具體的建議 |
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是希望照 |
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往例然後我們就是保留 |
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再回過頭來 |
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對因為我們走完這麼 |
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多條一定會發現前前後後 |
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的文字寫法調整啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11145].start |
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這樣或者是今天我們的公開 |
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修法現場可能有地方政府回頭 |
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看了之後發現要許我那條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].start |
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我沒有辦法買單他們可能就打電話 |
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跟教育部抗議啊所以我們 |
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就冒冒然的送出去 |
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委員會最後是留到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11152].end |
29691.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].text |
所謂的幹部協商我認為其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11153].start |
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這樣對地方政府也好對教育部也好 |
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29695.64 |
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對於所有的在處理營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11155].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11155].text |
的人我覺得都有點可惜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11156].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11156].end |
29699.64 |
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我們不如就在委員會裡面好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].start |
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主張然後整部反而回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].start |
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一定要再review過一次這是 |
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我的建議既然既然你都排案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11160].start |
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你這麼在意這個事情所以裴委員我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].start |
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29709.64 |
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具體的問就是說你希望照 |
| transcript.whisperx[11162].start |
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29711.64 |
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往例嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].start |
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29713.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].text |
對但是那個慣例並不是指一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11164].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11164].text |
按照慣例而是我背後的邏輯跟論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[11165].start |
29715.66 |
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是這樣的好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11166].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11166].end |
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那我就回應你一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].start |
29719.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].end |
29721.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].text |
因為剛剛我在處理消失會議相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].start |
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29723.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].text |
辦法的時候你叫我不要追溯 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].start |
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29725.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].text |
20年前相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11170].end |
29727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].text |
我剛剛我們新人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].start |
29727.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].end |
29729.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].text |
有新傾向那個比較慣例我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].start |
29729.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].end |
29731.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].text |
要以現階段審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].start |
29731.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].end |
29733.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].text |
我的風格 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].start |
29733.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].end |
29735.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].text |
就是要直接處理拖了十幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].start |
29735.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].end |
29737.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].text |
二十年沒辦法處理的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].start |
29737.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].end |
29739.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].text |
我要推進那委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].start |
29739.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].end |
29741.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].text |
委員擔心送到三長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].start |
29741.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].end |
29743.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].text |
三長不太了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].start |
29743.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].end |
29745.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].text |
我相信我跟蔡尊仲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].start |
29745.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].end |
29747.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].text |
我會代表國民黨我會要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].start |
29747.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].end |
29749.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].text |
國民黨三長一定要讓我全程 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].start |
29749.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].end |
29751.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].text |
陪同那送院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].start |
29751.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].end |
29753.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].text |
處理相信蔡尊仲委員的認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].start |
29753.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].end |
29755.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].text |
也一定會代表民眾黨到時 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].start |
29755.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].end |
29757.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].text |
三長的討論一定會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].start |
29757.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].end |
29759.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].text |
有我跟蔡尊仲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].start |
29759.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].end |
29761.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].text |
那我們一定會在這段時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].start |
29761.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].end |
29763.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].text |
送院會協商處理的冷凍期 |
| transcript.whisperx[11189].start |
29763.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11189].end |
29765.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11189].text |
那持續的收集更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11190].start |
29765.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11190].end |
29767.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11190].text |
意見所以請委員不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11191].start |
29767.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11191].end |
29768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11191].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11192].start |
29769.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11192].end |
29771.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11192].text |
主席我可以再回應你嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11193].start |
29771.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11193].end |
29773.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11193].text |
既然你都回應我了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11194].start |
29773.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11194].end |
29775.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11194].text |
保留送院會協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11195].start |
29775.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11195].end |
29777.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11195].text |
可以啊可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11196].start |
29777.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11196].end |
29779.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11196].text |
我還是要再次主張喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11197].start |
29779.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11197].end |
29781.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11197].text |
你剛剛用前面你那個我說你很慌 |
| transcript.whisperx[11198].start |
29781.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11198].end |
29783.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11198].text |
沒有提案這件事情說嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11199].start |
29783.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11199].end |
29785.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11199].text |
你說你那個叫慣例喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11200].start |
29785.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11200].end |
29787.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11200].text |
慣例指的是發生的頻率高低 |
| transcript.whisperx[11201].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11201].end |
29789.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11201].text |
而且主席我剛剛其實在第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[11202].start |
29789.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11202].end |
29791.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11202].text |
我說前例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11203].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11203].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11203].text |
你說慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11204].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11204].end |
29793.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11204].text |
那對不起更正前例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11205].start |
29793.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11205].end |
29795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11205].text |
那你剛剛說是慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11206].start |
29795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11206].end |
29797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11206].text |
而且我要說在我們剛剛討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11207].start |
29797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11207].end |
29798.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11207].text |
我要再一次跟你對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[11208].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11208].end |
29798.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11208].text |
我改正 |
| transcript.whisperx[11209].start |
29798.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11209].end |
29800.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11209].text |
你剛剛在處理這個提案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11210].start |
29800.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11210].end |
29802.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11210].text |
其實我剛剛公開建議你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11211].start |
29802.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11211].end |
29804.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11211].text |
我說如果你認為當時那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11212].start |
29804.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11212].end |
29806.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11212].text |
那些委員的寫法說什麼被離民意也好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11213].start |
29806.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11213].end |
29808.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11213].text |
還是沒有聽地方的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[11214].start |
29808.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11214].end |
29810.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11214].text |
你覺得這個寫法很厲害很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[11215].start |
29810.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11215].end |
29812.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11215].text |
你把它一念再念一念再念 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].start |
29812.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].end |
29814.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].text |
那我當時建議你說你就寫進你自己的提案裡頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11217].start |
29814.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11217].end |
29816.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11217].text |
然後這個提案會留在公報裡頭嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11218].start |
29816.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11218].end |
29818.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11218].text |
就留下歷史記錄啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].start |
29818.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].end |
29820.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].text |
大家不會只有看逐字稿嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11220].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11220].end |
29821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11220].text |
對不對 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11221].end |
29822.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11221].text |
那我講的是這個意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].start |
29822.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].end |
29825.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].text |
那我現在講的是為了法案本身的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11223].start |
29825.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11223].end |
29828.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11223].text |
這件事情我想要一再的論述這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].start |
29828.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].end |
29832.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].text |
因為主席光是你自己今天才提出來的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11225].start |
29832.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11225].end |
29837.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11225].text |
你的第四條跟第五條寫了就發生漢革了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].start |
29837.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].end |
29839.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].text |
光是這麼簡單的事情我們就找到了bug |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].start |
29839.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].end |
29842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].text |
那你認為你真的認為每一條全部都送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].start |
29842.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].end |
29845.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].text |
然後我們在所謂三長協商院長協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].start |
29845.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].end |
29849.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].text |
是要請韓院長跟各黨的三長陪著我們一條一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].start |
29849.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].end |
29851.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].text |
然後用三十幾個版本來看嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11231].start |
29851.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11231].end |
29854.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11231].text |
那我現在更好奇的是你到時候送出去要協商的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[11232].start |
29854.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11232].end |
29856.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11232].text |
你到底是要送哪個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].start |
29856.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].end |
29858.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].text |
你是要送你今天手上這個修正動議版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11234].start |
29858.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11234].end |
29860.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11234].text |
還是教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11235].start |
29860.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11235].end |
29863.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11235].text |
還是這三十幾個版本後後這一疊再送出去協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11236].start |
29863.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11236].end |
29864.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11236].text |
我不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[11237].start |
29864.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11237].end |
29866.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11237].text |
我真心不懂那請主席回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11238].start |
29866.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11238].end |
29869.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11238].text |
還是你覺得到時候你就送你自己說這個修正動議版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11239].start |
29869.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11239].end |
29870.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11239].text |
可是我剛剛就說了嘛 |
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29873.79 |
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我現在談的到這個第四條第五條就發生了bug耶 |
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29874.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11241].end |
29876.79 |
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那主席你回答我或是醫事人員你可以教主席嗎 |
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29876.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11242].end |
29879.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11242].text |
到時候送出去在幹部三長協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11243].start |
29879.79 |
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29880.79 |
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韓院長坐在那邊協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11244].start |
29880.79 |
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29881.79 |
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到底是協商哪一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11245].start |
29890.76 |
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29892.76 |
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修正動議都會保留 |
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29894.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11246].end |
29896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11246].text |
好來我們就繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[11247].start |
29896.3 |
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29898.3 |
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主席你沒有回答我你要送哪個版本出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11248].start |
29899.63 |
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29901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11248].text |
我們修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].start |
29901.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].end |
29904.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].text |
剛剛醫事人員有提到都會保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].start |
29904.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].end |
29908.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].text |
那基本上我們跟民眾黨高度的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[11251].start |
29908.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11251].end |
29911.51 |
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就是今天的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].start |
29911.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].end |
29915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].text |
那我想委員對於我們的版本有所指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].start |
29915.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].end |
29917.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].text |
我們也都非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].start |
29917.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].end |
29920.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].text |
也希望委員能夠提出更多的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].start |
29920.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].end |
29922.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].text |
讓我們的版本越來越好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].start |
29922.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].end |
29927.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].text |
那所以我們也會透過院會協商處理的過程機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].start |
29927.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].end |
29932.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].text |
還有冷凍期一個月內再持續的跟大家彙整更多的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].start |
29932.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].end |
29935.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].text |
到時院會協商處理的時候會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].start |
29936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].end |
29938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].text |
再納入各方的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].start |
29938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].end |
29941.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].text |
好所以主席那我跟您再次確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].start |
29941.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].end |
29944.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].text |
我們透過院會送協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].start |
29944.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].end |
29946.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].text |
也是有這樣子的一個機制存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].start |
29946.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].end |
29950.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].text |
好那既然醫事人員都已經代替您給我答案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].start |
29950.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].end |
29953.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].text |
就是說修正動議會一併送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].start |
29953.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].end |
29955.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].text |
那以上我的論述我想問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].start |
29955.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].end |
29958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].text |
教育部的版本也會被送出去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].start |
29958.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].end |
29960.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].text |
還有所有這些提案委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].start |
29960.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].end |
29963.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].text |
這麼一點二三十個版本也會被送出去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].start |
29963.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].end |
29964.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].start |
29965.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].end |
29967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].text |
主席我想知道剛才您說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].start |
29967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].end |
29973.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].text |
你們在協商的時候民眾黨跟國民黨會有高度的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].start |
29973.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].end |
29977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].text |
那我們民進黨的委員七個人坐在這邊一個字一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].start |
29977.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].end |
29980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].text |
為我們的條文為了我們每一個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].start |
29980.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].end |
29982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].text |
是不是用的得當是不是在這個法條裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].start |
29982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].end |
29985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].text |
是不是有很真切的去表達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].start |
29985.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].end |
29987.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].text |
我們都很認真的在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].start |
29987.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].end |
29990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].text |
但是被您保留出去之後您告訴我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].start |
29990.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].end |
29993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].text |
因為國民黨跟民眾黨有高度的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].start |
29993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].end |
29995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].text |
那是不是我們的聲音就被忽略掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].start |
29995.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].end |
29997.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].text |
那我們現在在討論什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].start |
29998.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].end |
29999.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].start |
29999.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].end |
30001.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].text |
您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].start |
30001.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].end |
30003.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].start |
30003.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].end |
30005.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].start |
30005.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].end |
30007.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].start |
30007.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].end |
30009.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].start |
30009.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].end |
30011.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].start |
30011.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].end |
30013.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].start |
30013.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].end |
30015.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].start |
30015.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].end |
30017.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].start |
30017.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].end |
30019.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11292].start |
30019.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11292].end |
30021.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11292].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11293].start |
30021.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11293].end |
30023.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11293].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11294].start |
30023.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11294].end |
30025.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11294].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].start |
30025.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].end |
30027.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].text |
請問您的論述是怎麼做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].start |
29999.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].end |
30000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].text |
好請一併回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].start |
30000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].end |
30002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].text |
而且主席現在你再跟醫事人員討論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].start |
30002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].end |
30004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].text |
我要再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].start |
30004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].end |
30006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].text |
剛剛秀寶委員提的是一個非常關鍵的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].start |
30006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].end |
30008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].text |
請大家現在看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].start |
30010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].end |
30012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].text |
4點53分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].start |
30012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].end |
30014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].text |
從今天下午2點40分開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].start |
30014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].end |
30016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].text |
不算是校事會議的提案修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].start |
30016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].end |
30018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].text |
或者是現在坐在這裡談營養午餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].start |
30018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].end |
30020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].text |
請問國民黨的委員誰出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].start |
30020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].end |
30022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].text |
除了你擔任主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].start |
30022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].end |
30024.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].text |
擔任召委之外請問誰出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].start |
30024.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].end |
30026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].text |
葉源之 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].start |
30026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].end |
30028.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].text |
邪洵葉源之 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].start |
30028.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].end |
30030.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].text |
柯志恩我邪洵柯志恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].start |
30030.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].end |
30032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].text |
我邪洵葛如君 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].start |
30032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].end |
30034.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].text |
謝龍建呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].start |
30034.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].end |
30036.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].text |
平常也不愛來謝龍建算了我差點忘記他了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].start |
30036.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].end |
30038.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].text |
這些人請問你們在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].start |
30038.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].end |
30040.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].text |
你剛剛用一個非常蠻橫的說法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].start |
30040.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].end |
30042.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].text |
你沒有回答我到底要送什麼版本出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].start |
30042.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].end |
30044.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].text |
然後你只跟我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].start |
30044.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].end |
30046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].text |
藍白有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].start |
30046.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].end |
30048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].text |
所以難道最後協商的版本是藍白 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].start |
30048.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].end |
30050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].text |
然後我們今天所有這些民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].start |
30050.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].end |
30052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].text |
坐在這裡幫你們背書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].start |
30052.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].end |
30054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].text |
何其的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].start |
30054.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].end |
30056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].text |
就算你地方政府大部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].start |
30056.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].end |
30058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].text |
你們認為所有地方首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].start |
30058.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].end |
30060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].text |
多數超過是藍白 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].start |
30060.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].end |
30062.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].text |
加起來的執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].start |
30062.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].end |
30064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].text |
所以你們說了算 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].start |
30064.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].end |
30066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].text |
那請問你們還要甚至還要修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].start |
30066.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].end |
30068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].text |
修荒謬的法什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].start |
30068.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].end |
30070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].text |
水電費啦牛奶費啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].start |
30070.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].end |
30072.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].text |
到時候國產食材費還要交一部買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].start |
30072.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].end |
30074.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].text |
請問這樣的說法難道民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].start |
30074.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].end |
30076.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].text |
的意見都不用參採嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].start |
30076.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].end |
30078.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].text |
我覺得非常非常的荒謬所以你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].start |
30078.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].end |
30080.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].text |
剛剛第一次在回答我的問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].start |
30080.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].end |
30082.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].text |
你還是沒有公開回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].start |
30082.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].end |
30084.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].text |
我的問題請問到時候送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].start |
30084.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].end |
30086.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].text |
韓國院長面前協商的版本是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].start |
30086.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].end |
30088.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].text |
版本如果真的按照你所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].start |
30088.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].end |
30090.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].text |
你只送出去今天你們藍白這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].start |
30091.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].end |
30093.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].text |
一下就被我發現寫錯修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].start |
30093.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].end |
30095.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].text |
或者是你只送 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].start |
30095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].end |
30097.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].text |
教育部的版本我都覺得非常非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].start |
30097.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].end |
30099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].text |
所以主席你要不要公開回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].start |
30099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].end |
30101.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].text |
你不願意在整部法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].start |
30101.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].end |
30103.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].text |
討論後留在教文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].start |
30103.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].end |
30105.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].text |
逐條再次review |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].start |
30105.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].end |
30107.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].text |
你不願意參考你的前輩 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].start |
30107.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].end |
30109.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].text |
柯之恩的做法就算他今天沒有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].start |
30109.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].end |
30111.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].text |
他當時在修學府法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].start |
30111.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].end |
30113.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].text |
我們橫跨了會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].start |
30113.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].end |
30115.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].text |
我們橫跨了非常非常多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].start |
30115.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].end |
30117.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].text |
大家甚至在某一個條文上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].start |
30117.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].end |
30119.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].text |
關於專府人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].start |
30119.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].end |
30121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].text |
薪資我們花了兩三個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].start |
30121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].end |
30123.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].text |
這件事情主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].start |
30123.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].end |
30125.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].text |
這個叫做優良的慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].start |
30125.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].end |
30127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].text |
這個叫做負責任的立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].start |
30127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].end |
30129.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].text |
這個叫做兼顧行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].start |
30129.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].end |
30131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].text |
跟立法之間平衡的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].start |
30131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].end |
30133.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].text |
該做的事情今天立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].start |
30133.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].end |
30135.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].text |
沒有大到你坐在這裡修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].start |
30135.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].end |
30137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].text |
地方政府就要買單或是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].start |
30137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].end |
30139.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].text |
要買單這叫做侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].start |
30139.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].end |
30141.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].text |
行政權而且你不是只有侵害中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].start |
30141.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].end |
30143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].text |
的行政權你甚至認為你大到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].start |
30143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].end |
30145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].text |
可以指揮地方政府全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].start |
30145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].end |
30147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].text |
聽你的話用你的版本去做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].start |
30147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].end |
30149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].text |
沒有這樣的事情主席那今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].start |
30149.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].end |
30151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].text |
所有出席的民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].start |
30151.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].end |
30153.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].text |
情何以堪我們所有的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].start |
30153.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].end |
30155.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].text |
就決定你就決定丟包了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].start |
30155.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].end |
30157.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].text |
你剛回答沒有回答我主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].start |
30157.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].end |
30159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].text |
請你公開說清楚你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].start |
30159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].end |
30161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].text |
不願意在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].start |
30161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].end |
30163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].text |
逐條談完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].start |
30163.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].end |
30165.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].text |
逐條再次在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].start |
30165.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].end |
30167.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].text |
review是為了什麼原因請你公開說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].start |
30167.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].end |
30169.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].text |
二如果你堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].start |
30169.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].end |
30171.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].text |
要送出去協商你到底會送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].start |
30171.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].end |
30173.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].text |
什麼版本三請你公開說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].start |
30173.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].end |
30175.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].text |
如果你們國民黨今天真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].start |
30175.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].end |
30177.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].text |
這麼在意營養午餐的修法請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].start |
30177.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].end |
30179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].text |
哪個國民黨委員出席我再次點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].start |
30179.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].end |
30181.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].text |
柯志恩葉元之葛羅軍謝龍介 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].start |
30181.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].end |
30183.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].text |
出席了嗎說明了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].start |
30183.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].end |
30185.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].text |
參與討論了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].start |
30185.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].end |
30187.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].text |
還有羅志強委員大安區 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].start |
30187.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].end |
30189.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].text |
委員小孩命不是命一樣午餐吃不用在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].start |
30189.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].end |
30191.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].text |
是這樣嗎葉元之委員來自板橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].start |
30191.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].end |
30193.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].text |
謝龍介來自台南柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].start |
30193.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].end |
30195.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].text |
來自高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].start |
30195.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].end |
30197.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].text |
然後你還好意思大聲跟我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].start |
30197.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].end |
30199.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].text |
這個是你們藍版有共識的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].start |
30202.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].end |
30204.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].text |
請主席公開回答我剛剛提問了所有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].start |
30208.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].end |
30210.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].text |
跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].start |
30210.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].end |
30212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].text |
因為我們希望能夠加速 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].start |
30212.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].end |
30214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].text |
推進的原因是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].start |
30214.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].end |
30216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].text |
我們看到目前在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].start |
30216.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].end |
30218.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].text |
營養午餐法已經討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].start |
30218.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].end |
30220.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].text |
了數十年我們希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].start |
30220.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].end |
30222.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].text |
持續的推進並且是有效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].start |
30222.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].end |
30224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].text |
推進那有鑒於最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].start |
30224.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].end |
30226.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].text |
的食安問題營養午餐的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].start |
30226.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].end |
30228.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].text |
一些關係大家也都 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].start |
30228.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].end |
30230.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].text |
很關注那希望透過立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].start |
30230.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].end |
30232.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].text |
的方式能夠來保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].start |
30232.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].end |
30234.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].text |
委員擔心會有丟包別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].start |
30234.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].end |
30236.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].text |
的版本這個部分不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].start |
30236.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].end |
30238.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].text |
因為修正動議是跟著 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].start |
30238.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].end |
30240.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].text |
各委員提案的版本一並 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].start |
30240.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].end |
30242.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].text |
進入到下一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].start |
30242.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].end |
30244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].text |
那委員有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].start |
30244.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].end |
30246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].text |
有特別關心這個教育部建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].start |
30246.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].end |
30248.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].text |
那建議文字的部分就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].start |
30248.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].end |
30250.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].text |
議事人員再三確定因為他 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].start |
30250.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].end |
30252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].text |
不是版本他不是院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].start |
30252.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].end |
30254.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].text |
只是建議文字所以他 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].start |
30254.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].end |
30256.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].text |
不會出現在這個黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].start |
30256.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].end |
30258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].text |
協商的一個部分那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].start |
30258.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].end |
30260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].text |
我也要跟委員特別報告因為修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].start |
30260.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].end |
30262.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].text |
的部分國民黨跟民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].start |
30262.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].end |
30264.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].text |
雖然是高度 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].start |
30264.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].end |
30266.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].text |
控制但是我們是以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].start |
30266.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].end |
30268.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].text |
教育部建議文字為基底 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].start |
30268.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].end |
30270.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].text |
來做一個發想 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].start |
30270.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].end |
30272.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].text |
那以上是特別跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].start |
30272.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].end |
30274.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].text |
說明不會丟包委員自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].start |
30274.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].end |
30276.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].text |
的版本那也歡迎委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].start |
30276.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].end |
30278.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].text |
再透過委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].start |
30279.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].end |
30281.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].text |
另外的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].start |
30281.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].end |
30283.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].text |
自己可以再跟其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].start |
30283.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].end |
30285.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].text |
來整合版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].start |
30286.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].end |
30288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].text |
我們七個人我們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].start |
30288.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].end |
30290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].text |
都在這裡我們很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].start |
30290.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].end |
30292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].text |
的逐字在審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].start |
30292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].end |
30294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].text |
那你為什麼要我們很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].start |
30294.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].end |
30296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].text |
的發言之後我們很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].start |
30296.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].end |
30298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].text |
的對每一個字每一個條我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].start |
30298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].end |
30300.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].text |
還在發言可不可以等我發言完 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].start |
30303.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].end |
30305.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].text |
我建議你可以整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].start |
30305.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].end |
30307.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].text |
啊你就很氣憤 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].start |
30307.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].end |
30309.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].text |
你剛剛建議我我的提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].start |
30309.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].end |
30311.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].text |
寫得不夠好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].start |
30311.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].end |
30313.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].text |
啊我就不能夠說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].start |
30313.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].end |
30315.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].text |
那你自己提版本這樣子好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].start |
30315.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].end |
30317.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].text |
又很奇怪所以我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].start |
30317.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].end |
30319.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].text |
將心比心嘛你建議我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].start |
30319.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].end |
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啊我不採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].start |
30321.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11450].text |
那我讓你講完啊我建議你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].start |
30323.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].end |
30325.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].text |
我也沒有強制啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].start |
30325.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11452].text |
這個不是有強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].start |
30327.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].end |
30329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].text |
嘛好不好我只是要告訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].start |
30329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].end |
30331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].text |
你你也不要一直提到不用提柯志恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].start |
30331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].end |
30333.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].text |
他們柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].start |
30333.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].end |
30335.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].text |
多次我建議你不採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].start |
30335.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].end |
30337.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].text |
我們七個人建議你都不採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].start |
30337.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].end |
30339.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].text |
我們現在坐在這裡做什麼國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].start |
30339.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].end |
30341.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].text |
所有的委員還有民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].start |
30341.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].end |
30343.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].text |
提案的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].start |
30343.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].end |
30345.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].text |
一直努力的在整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].start |
30345.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].end |
30347.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].text |
這裡面有葉元之的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].start |
30347.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].end |
30349.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].text |
他一直跟我們開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].start |
30349.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].end |
30351.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].text |
也有謝榮介委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].start |
30351.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].end |
30353.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].text |
也有柯志恩委員也有葛如君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].start |
30353.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].end |
30355.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].text |
大家一同努力把它整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].start |
30355.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].end |
30357.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].text |
版本今天我們希望透過整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].start |
30357.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].end |
30359.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].text |
的版本彙整來跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].start |
30359.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].end |
30361.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].text |
共同討論以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].start |
30361.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].end |
30363.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].text |
簡單的跟大家特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].start |
30363.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].end |
30365.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].text |
那接著我們要來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].start |
30365.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].end |
30367.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].text |
沒有主席我要我剛剛在你發言的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].start |
30367.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].end |
30369.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].text |
我就舉手而且我很有禮貌不敢打斷你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].start |
30369.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].end |
30371.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].text |
我手一直舉著我可以發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].start |
30371.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].end |
30373.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].text |
我認為你沒有打斷我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].start |
30373.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].end |
30375.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].text |
發言是是是所以我一定要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].start |
30375.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].end |
30377.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].text |
讓你發言謝謝主席這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].start |
30377.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].end |
30379.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].text |
會議程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].start |
30379.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].end |
30381.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].text |
好我還是要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].start |
30382.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].end |
30386.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].text |
為什麼我要點名這些沒有來的委員我敢點名我就敢說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].start |
30386.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].end |
30388.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].text |
我們沒有辦法接受的是你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].start |
30388.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].end |
30390.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].text |
這個修正動議是今天才提出來的其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].start |
30390.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].end |
30392.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].text |
連教育部國家組也是今天才看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].start |
30394.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].end |
30396.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].text |
食安事件我相信大家都關心喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].start |
30396.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].end |
30398.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].text |
其實不用說誰關心誰不關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].start |
30398.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].end |
30400.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].text |
但我要說的是如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].start |
30400.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].end |
30402.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].text |
這個修正動議主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].start |
30402.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].end |
30404.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].text |
你剛剛公開的說是藍白 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].start |
30404.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].end |
30406.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].text |
高度共識所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].start |
30406.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].end |
30408.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].text |
你的做法是選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].start |
30408.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].end |
30410.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].text |
快速出委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].start |
30410.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].end |
30412.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].text |
而且你認為這樣的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].start |
30412.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].end |
30414.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].text |
才符合國人關心食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].start |
30414.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].end |
30416.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].text |
那我要說你以為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].start |
30416.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].end |
30418.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].text |
你解決了一個問題但我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].start |
30418.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].end |
30420.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].text |
會擔心會製造更多的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].start |
30420.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].end |
30422.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].text |
光是這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].start |
30422.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].end |
30424.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].text |
地方政府沒有看過教育部沒有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].start |
30424.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].end |
30426.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].text |
我不知道未來在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].start |
30426.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].end |
30428.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].text |
協商的時候如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].start |
30428.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].end |
30430.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].text |
在那之前所有地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].start |
30430.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].end |
30432.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].text |
政府針對今天要送出去的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].start |
30432.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].end |
30434.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].text |
提出什麼意義請問誰要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].start |
30434.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].end |
30436.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].text |
負責藍白的這些提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].start |
30436.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].end |
30438.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].text |
的委員也好你們認為有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].start |
30438.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].end |
30440.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].text |
高度共識的委員也好真的可以去跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].start |
30440.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].end |
30442.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].text |
地方政府解釋嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].start |
30442.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].end |
30444.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].text |
還是到時候你們要丟包說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].start |
30444.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].end |
30446.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].text |
誰叫教育部沒有院白你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].start |
30446.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].end |
30448.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].text |
只有建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].start |
30448.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].end |
30450.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].text |
這麼不負責任的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].start |
30450.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].end |
30452.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].text |
其實一句政治口水可能就把所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].start |
30452.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].end |
30454.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].text |
過去教育部跟各級 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].start |
30454.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].end |
30456.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].text |
地方政府在這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].start |
30456.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].end |
30458.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].text |
上的努力一筆給抹煞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].start |
30458.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].end |
30460.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].text |
我再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].start |
30460.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].end |
30462.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].text |
我沒有說誰的修正動議好或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].start |
30462.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].end |
30464.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].text |
不好剛剛對你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].start |
30464.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].end |
30466.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].text |
第四條跟第五條提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].start |
30466.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].end |
30468.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].text |
建議的是我不是陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].start |
30468.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].end |
30470.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].text |
我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].start |
30471.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].end |
30473.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].text |
你還是沒有回答我第四條跟第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].start |
30473.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].end |
30475.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].text |
那你就回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].start |
30475.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].end |
30477.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].text |
第四條跟第五條你這個寫法你自己沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].start |
30477.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].end |
30479.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].text |
發現了嗎我現在提醒你你要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].start |
30479.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].end |
30481.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].text |
發現然後你回答我嘛再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].start |
30482.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].end |
30484.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].text |
我不確定主席你有沒有參加過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].start |
30484.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11528].text |
所謂的三長加韓國瑜院長的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].start |
30486.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].end |
30488.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].text |
我們桌上今天所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].start |
30488.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].end |
30490.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].text |
這些厚厚的資料到時候就送到委員會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].start |
30490.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].end |
30492.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].text |
然後我們要所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11532].end |
30494.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].text |
三長一條一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11533].end |
30496.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].text |
是不是到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].start |
30496.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].end |
30498.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].text |
真的就像用剛剛秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].start |
30498.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].end |
30500.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].text |
擔心的最粗暴的方法就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].start |
30500.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].end |
30502.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].text |
用所謂藍白的協議然後就通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].start |
30502.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].end |
30504.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].text |
然後逼教育部買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].start |
30504.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].end |
30506.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].text |
更不要說後續會不會有多少的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].start |
30506.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].end |
30508.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].text |
你們會逼著教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].start |
30508.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].end |
30510.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].text |
要來承擔逼國教署也來承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].start |
30510.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].end |
30512.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].text |
但是明明開出免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].start |
30512.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].end |
30514.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].text |
政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].start |
30514.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].end |
30516.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].text |
紅利支票的是現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].start |
30516.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].end |
30518.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].text |
地方首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].start |
30518.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].end |
30520.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].text |
這件事情難道不用拿委員會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].start |
30520.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].end |
30522.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].text |
討論嗎我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].start |
30522.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].end |
30524.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].text |
過去教委委員會就算我只有進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].start |
30524.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].end |
30526.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].text |
來立法院三年我們在非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].start |
30526.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].end |
30528.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].text |
多有爭議的法案上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].start |
30528.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].end |
30530.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].text |
不論是人力的爭議或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].start |
30530.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].end |
30532.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].text |
資源的爭議預算的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].start |
30532.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].end |
30534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].text |
或者是中央地方分工的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].start |
30534.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].end |
30536.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].text |
大家真的要坐下來好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].start |
30537.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].end |
30539.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].text |
我們不要因人費言 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].start |
30539.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].end |
30541.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].text |
也不要因人費事我剛剛雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].start |
30541.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].end |
30543.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].text |
點名客製人委員今天沒有出席可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].start |
30543.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].end |
30545.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].text |
我也從來沒有否定在學府法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].start |
30545.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].end |
30547.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].text |
國民黨民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].start |
30547.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].end |
30549.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].text |
大家坐下來認真討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].start |
30549.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].end |
30551.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].text |
關於一筆一筆的錢怎麼算關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].start |
30551.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].end |
30553.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].text |
跟社工之間有沒有什麼進合 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].start |
30553.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].end |
30555.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].text |
大家是坐下來實質討論的我到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].start |
30555.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].end |
30557.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].text |
不用談參我都可以舉出一些例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].start |
30557.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].end |
30559.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].text |
所以我要說的是那樣的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].start |
30559.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].end |
30561.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].text |
花時間的討論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].start |
30561.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].end |
30563.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].text |
極其重要而且極其有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].start |
30563.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].end |
30565.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].text |
的如果你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].start |
30565.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].end |
30567.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].text |
我覺得今天快速把它的推出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].start |
30567.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].end |
30569.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].text |
送到委員送到三長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].start |
30569.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].end |
30571.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].text |
跟韓國的院長面去協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].start |
30571.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].end |
30573.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].text |
就是所謂的快速解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].start |
30573.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].end |
30575.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].text |
那我要問你真的覺得這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].start |
30575.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].end |
30577.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].text |
就可以快速解決問題嗎會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].start |
30577.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].end |
30579.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].text |
其實製造並且創造 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].start |
30579.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].end |
30581.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].text |
更多的問題其實沒有辦法解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].start |
30581.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].end |
30583.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].text |
的所以我認為你既然都已經要排 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].start |
30583.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].end |
30585.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].text |
審既然認為你是最注重 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].start |
30585.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].end |
30587.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].text |
這件事情的人那就好好的談 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].start |
30587.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].end |
30589.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].text |
吧不是只有看電視上的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].start |
30589.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].end |
30591.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].text |
看完就說好你看陳培芸我有看了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].start |
30591.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].end |
30593.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].text |
我看了我看了然後好送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].start |
30594.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].end |
30596.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].text |
沒有這回事的主席不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].start |
30596.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].end |
30598.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].text |
這麼粗暴不要這麼蠻悍 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].start |
30598.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].end |
30600.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].text |
不要這麼獨裁不要不理會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].start |
30600.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].end |
30602.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].text |
委員會的程序今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].start |
30602.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].end |
30604.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].text |
我們所有人坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].start |
30604.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].end |
30606.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].text |
我真的覺得我很像在陪 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].start |
30606.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].end |
30608.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].text |
公子您讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].start |
30611.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].end |
30613.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].text |
我真的覺得我很像在陪您讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].start |
30613.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].end |
30615.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].text |
陪公子讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].start |
30615.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].end |
30617.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].text |
所有人在意的事情你一聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].start |
30617.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].end |
30619.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].text |
不吭不說不回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].start |
30619.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].end |
30621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].text |
你說了就算 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].start |
30621.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].end |
30623.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].text |
你要送就送 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].start |
30623.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].end |
30625.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].text |
我現在就公開要求呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].start |
30625.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].end |
30627.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].text |
那海院長要不要來看一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].start |
30627.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].end |
30629.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].text |
你們國民黨的召委是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11598].start |
30629.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11598].end |
30631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11598].text |
對待營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11599].start |
30631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11599].end |
30633.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11599].text |
是這樣關心食安的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11600].start |
30634.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11600].end |
30636.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11600].text |
我真的覺得今天所有出席的民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11601].start |
30636.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11601].end |
30638.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11601].text |
在陪你們這些公子讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11602].start |
30638.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11602].end |
30640.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11602].text |
陪你們這些不出席的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11603].start |
30643.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11603].end |
30645.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11603].text |
然後你們說關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11604].start |
30645.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11604].end |
30647.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11604].text |
這是何其荒謬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11605].start |
30648.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11605].end |
30650.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11605].text |
我們不要再叫文創造這樣的氛圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[11606].start |
30650.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11606].end |
30652.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11606].text |
今天我們都已經坐下來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11607].start |
30652.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11607].end |
30654.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11607].text |
上一次我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11608].start |
30654.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11608].end |
30656.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11608].text |
讓國教署長在你們離席之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11609].start |
30656.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11609].end |
30658.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11609].text |
我們讓他說明了五分多鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[11610].start |
30658.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11610].end |
30660.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11610].text |
在跟地方政府溝通上發現的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[11611].start |
30660.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11611].end |
30662.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11611].text |
在跟地方政府溝通上發現的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[11612].start |
30662.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11612].end |
30664.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11612].text |
請大家看一看署長手上有多少資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[11613].start |
30664.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11613].end |
30666.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11613].text |
署長花了多少力氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11614].start |
30666.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11614].end |
30668.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11614].text |
在處理這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[11615].start |
30668.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11615].end |
30670.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11615].text |
但可能過去幾個月幾年來的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11616].start |
30670.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11616].end |
30672.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11616].text |
就會被這一本薄薄的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11617].start |
30674.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11617].end |
30676.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11617].text |
立刻在第一頁就被發現寫錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[11618].start |
30676.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11618].end |
30678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11618].text |
前面一條跟後面一條發生漢革的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11619].start |
30678.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11619].end |
30680.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11619].text |
提案人叫做柯知恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[11620].start |
30680.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11620].end |
30682.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11620].text |
羅廷瑋跟蔡春仇 |
| transcript.whisperx[11621].start |
30682.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11621].end |
30684.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11621].text |
的這一份版本說是高度藍白共識的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11622].start |
30684.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11622].end |
30686.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11622].text |
過去署長跟部長的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11623].start |
30688.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11623].end |
30690.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11623].text |
預算人員的努力法制人員的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11624].start |
30690.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11624].end |
30692.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11624].text |
地方教育署長的努力就被一筆抹上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11625].start |
30693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11625].end |
30695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11625].text |
這是你所謂的解決食安問題的方法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11626].start |
30695.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11626].end |
30697.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11626].text |
這是你所謂照顧中小學生食安的方法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11627].start |
30697.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11627].end |
30699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11627].text |
這是你認為有效率的方法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11628].start |
30699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11628].end |
30701.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[11628].text |
我一點都不這麼認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11629].start |
30704.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11629].end |
30706.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11629].text |
我很樂意 |
| transcript.whisperx[11630].start |
30706.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11630].end |
30708.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11630].text |
因為營養午餐因為食安 |
| transcript.whisperx[11631].start |
30708.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11631].end |
30710.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11631].text |
因為地方教育局處的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[11632].start |
30710.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11632].end |
30712.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11632].text |
因為國教署的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[11633].start |
30712.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11633].end |
30714.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11633].text |
因為我們詐欺這件事情而坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[11634].start |
30714.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11634].end |
30716.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11634].text |
像是在陪公子讀書一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11635].start |
30716.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11635].end |
30718.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11635].text |
陪你待到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11636].start |
30718.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11636].end |
30720.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11636].text |
未來每一個禮拜你輪到召委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11637].start |
30720.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11637].end |
30722.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11637].text |
我相信你會繼續排 |
| transcript.whisperx[11638].start |
30721.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11638].end |
30723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11638].text |
我們就繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[11639].start |
30723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11639].end |
30725.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11639].text |
讓國人看看我們的羅廷瑋召委選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[11640].start |
30725.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11640].end |
30727.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11640].text |
用這樣的方法對待營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11641].start |
30730.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11641].end |
30732.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11641].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11642].start |
30732.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11642].end |
30734.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11642].text |
那也跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11643].start |
30734.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11643].end |
30736.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11643].text |
黨團協商或者是院長協調的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11644].start |
30736.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11644].end |
30738.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11644].text |
機關部會都可以提出建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11645].start |
30738.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11645].end |
30740.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11645].text |
來加以修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[11646].start |
30740.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11646].end |
30742.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11646].text |
公語會的委員都會現場來做參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[11647].start |
30742.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11647].end |
30746.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11647].text |
那委員比較擔心的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11648].start |
30746.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11648].end |
30748.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11648].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[11649].start |
30748.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11649].end |
30750.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11649].text |
因為剛剛委員也有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11650].start |
30750.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11650].end |
30752.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11650].text |
是直接照教育部版本通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11651].start |
30754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11651].end |
30756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11651].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11652].start |
30756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11652].end |
30758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11652].text |
那所以只是因為有其他的委員也有其他的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11653].start |
30758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11653].end |
30760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11653].text |
所以我們在目前為止沒辦法整合起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11654].start |
30760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11654].end |
30762.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11654].text |
所以就想說送院會協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11655].start |
30762.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11655].end |
30764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11655].text |
並沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11656].start |
30764.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11656].end |
30766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11656].text |
要用透過非常強硬的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[11657].start |
30766.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11657].end |
30768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11657].text |
那這個也是因為你們有前 |
| transcript.whisperx[11658].start |
30768.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11658].end |
30770.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11658].text |
有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[11659].start |
30770.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11659].end |
30772.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11659].text |
希望照教育部版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11660].start |
30772.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11660].end |
30774.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11660].text |
看得出來現場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11661].start |
30774.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11661].end |
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也是非常用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11662].start |
30776.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11662].end |
30778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11662].text |
希望能夠有推進的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11663].start |
30778.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11663].end |
30780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11663].text |
那希望能夠把營養午餐法持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11664].start |
30780.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11664].end |
30782.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11664].text |
再有所精進喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11665].start |
30782.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11665].end |
30784.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11665].text |
所以我想這個部分也跟大家做一個特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11666].start |
30784.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11666].end |
30786.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11666].text |
那所以我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[11667].start |
30786.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11667].end |
30788.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11667].text |
並不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11668].start |
30788.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11668].end |
30790.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11668].text |
陪誰修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11669].start |
30790.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11669].end |
30792.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11669].text |
你們大家都很認真喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11670].start |
30792.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11670].end |
30794.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11670].text |
但是也有教育部建議文字嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11671].start |
30794.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11671].end |
30796.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11671].text |
那可能就是因為沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11672].start |
30796.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11672].end |
30798.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11672].text |
只透過教育部建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11673].start |
30798.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11673].end |
30800.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11673].text |
那其他的委員有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11674].start |
30800.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11674].end |
30802.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11674].text |
那所以我們就有需要再協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11675].start |
30802.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11675].end |
30804.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11675].text |
所以透過保留送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11676].start |
30804.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11676].end |
30806.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11676].text |
大家再透過協商的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[11677].start |
30806.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11677].end |
30808.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11677].text |
再生產出更多的一些共識之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[11678].start |
30808.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11678].end |
30810.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11678].text |
在協商的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[11679].start |
30810.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11679].end |
30812.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11679].text |
我們可能有一些共識然後把它定掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11680].start |
30812.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11680].end |
30814.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11680].text |
如果沒有共識的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[11681].start |
30814.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11681].end |
30816.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11681].text |
最後才送院會表決處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11682].start |
30816.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11682].end |
30818.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11682].text |
所以我們跟大家特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11683].start |
30818.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11683].end |
30820.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11683].text |
不是直接表決喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11684].start |
30820.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11684].end |
30822.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11684].text |
我們是送院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11685].start |
30822.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11685].end |
30824.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11685].text |
那到時候山長像剛剛委員也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11686].start |
30824.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11686].end |
30826.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11686].text |
他很擔心山長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11687].start |
30826.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11687].end |
30828.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11687].text |
不了解這個法案啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11688].start |
30828.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11688].end |
30830.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11688].text |
所以希望說有教文的陪同 |
| transcript.whisperx[11689].start |
30830.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11689].end |
30832.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11689].text |
我想蔡市長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11690].start |
30832.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11690].end |
30834.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11690].text |
跟我也都在這邊現場同意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11691].start |
30834.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11691].end |
30836.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11691].text |
山長在協商的過程我們都願意陪伴 |
| transcript.whisperx[11692].start |
30836.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11692].end |
30838.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11692].text |
來說明我們的院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11693].start |
30838.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11693].end |
30840.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11693].text |
這是應該要把它說清楚講明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[11694].start |
30840.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11694].end |
30842.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11694].text |
那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11695].start |
30842.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11695].end |
30844.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11695].text |
剛剛委員對於我們的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11696].start |
30844.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11696].end |
30846.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11696].text |
有這個用字遣詞啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11697].start |
30846.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11697].end |
30848.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11697].text |
有相互憨格 |
| transcript.whisperx[11698].start |
30848.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11698].end |
30850.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11698].text |
這是委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11699].start |
30852.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11699].end |
30854.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11699].text |
評斷啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11700].start |
30854.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11700].end |
30856.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11700].text |
那我們當然尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[11701].start |
30856.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11701].end |
30858.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11701].text |
那基本上呢還是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11702].start |
30858.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11702].end |
30860.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11702].text |
委員如果您覺得這個有憨格的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11703].start |
30860.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11703].end |
30862.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11703].text |
您覺得有不同的是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11704].start |
30862.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11704].end |
30864.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11704].text |
你也可以提出你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11705].start |
30864.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11705].end |
30866.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11705].text |
我們就直接推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11706].start |
30866.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11706].end |
30868.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11706].text |
那現在教育部主管機關要建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11707].start |
30868.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11707].end |
30870.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11707].text |
要發言喔請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11708].start |
30870.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11708].end |
30872.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11708].text |
謝謝趙偉都很尊重我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11709].start |
30872.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11709].end |
30874.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11709].text |
那我這個主管機關的部分有幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11710].start |
30874.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11710].end |
30876.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11710].text |
剛剛有跟包含蔡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11711].start |
30876.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11711].end |
30878.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11711].text |
還有相關提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11712].start |
30878.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11712].end |
30880.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11712].text |
說明目前第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11713].start |
30880.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11713].end |
30884.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[11713].text |
那委員提案增列第二項這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11714].start |
30885.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11714].end |
30887.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11714].text |
那因為它非常的涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11715].start |
30887.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11715].end |
30889.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11715].text |
地方政府尤其是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[11716].start |
30889.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11716].end |
30891.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11716].text |
剛剛蔡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11717].start |
30891.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11717].end |
30893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11717].text |
有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11718].start |
30893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11718].end |
30895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11718].text |
夜光天使 |
| transcript.whisperx[11719].start |
30896.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11719].end |
30898.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11719].text |
夜光天使現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11720].start |
30899.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11720].end |
30901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11720].text |
全國我們高中以下的班 |
| transcript.whisperx[11721].start |
30901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11721].end |
30903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11721].text |
有九萬多個班 |
| transcript.whisperx[11722].start |
30904.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11722].end |
30906.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11722].text |
他是756班 |
| transcript.whisperx[11723].start |
30906.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[11723].end |
30908.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[11723].text |
算是不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[11724].start |
30908.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[11724].end |
30910.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[11724].text |
不多的班但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11725].start |
30911.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11725].end |
30913.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11725].text |
如果以他現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11726].start |
30913.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11726].end |
30915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11726].text |
他在進行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11727].start |
30915.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11727].end |
30917.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11727].text |
我們所有師長們都滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[11728].start |
30917.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11728].end |
30919.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11728].text |
應應學生的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[11729].start |
30919.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11729].end |
30921.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11729].text |
那麼因為他也相對比較偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11730].start |
30923.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11730].end |
30925.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11730].text |
他不太能夠用中午的那個廚房 |
| transcript.whisperx[11731].start |
30927.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11731].end |
30929.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11731].text |
繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[11732].start |
30928.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11732].end |
30930.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11732].text |
所以他公餐要靈活一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[11733].start |
30930.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11733].end |
30932.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11733].text |
比較能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11734].start |
30932.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11734].end |
30934.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11734].text |
幫忙學校能夠運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11735].start |
30934.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11735].end |
30936.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11735].text |
也能夠幫忙這些比較辛苦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11736].start |
30936.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11736].end |
30938.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11736].text |
家庭的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11737].start |
30938.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11737].end |
30940.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[11737].text |
所以這個是指晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11738].start |
30941.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[11738].end |
30943.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[11738].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[11739].start |
30943.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11739].end |
30945.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11739].text |
替代公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11740].start |
30945.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11740].end |
30947.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11740].text |
有提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11741].start |
30946.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11741].end |
30948.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11741].text |
可能會更讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[11742].start |
30948.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11742].end |
30950.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11742].text |
基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11743].start |
30950.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11743].end |
30952.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11743].text |
我們的基層的夥伴已經很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11744].start |
30952.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11744].end |
30954.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11744].text |
看到這個恐怕他 |
| transcript.whisperx[11745].start |
30954.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11745].end |
30956.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11745].text |
就會變成比較多的延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[11746].start |
30957.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11746].end |
30959.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11746].text |
這就會讓我們的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[11747].start |
30959.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11747].end |
30961.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11747].text |
現在已經很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11748].start |
30961.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11748].end |
30963.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[11748].text |
然後又有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11749].start |
30963.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11749].end |
30965.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11749].text |
四條的第二項這樣的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11750].start |
30967.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11750].end |
30969.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11750].text |
然後如果是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11751].start |
30969.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11751].end |
30971.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11751].text |
以教文委員的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[11752].start |
30971.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11752].end |
30973.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11752].text |
那老師也不一定知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[11753].start |
30974.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11753].end |
30976.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11753].text |
然後在協商的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[11754].start |
30976.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11754].end |
30977.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11754].text |
我怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11755].start |
30977.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11755].end |
30979.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11755].text |
昭偉其實也很理解現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11756].start |
30980.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11756].end |
30982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11756].text |
這樣對本委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11757].start |
30982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11757].end |
30984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11757].text |
長期以來一直解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[11758].start |
30984.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11758].end |
30986.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[11758].text |
不管行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[11759].start |
30987.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11759].end |
30989.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11759].text |
或是老師很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11760].start |
30990.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11760].end |
30994.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11760].text |
怎麼樣幫他們可以化解一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11761].start |
30994.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11761].end |
30996.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11761].text |
已經很辛苦的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11762].start |
30996.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11762].end |
30998.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11762].text |
讓他更容易的留在職場上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11763].start |
30998.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11763].end |
31000.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11763].text |
甚至我們也讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[11764].start |
31000.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11764].end |
31002.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11764].text |
可以更解決他的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11765].start |
31003.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11765].end |
31005.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11765].text |
為難之處 |
| transcript.whisperx[11766].start |
31005.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11766].end |
31007.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11766].text |
但是這個第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[11767].start |
31007.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11767].end |
31009.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11767].text |
第二項我看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11768].start |
31009.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11768].end |
31011.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11768].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11769].start |
31008.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11769].end |
31010.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11769].text |
一方面也沒有跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[11770].start |
31010.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11770].end |
31012.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11770].text |
好好的了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11771].start |
31012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11771].end |
31014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11771].text |
這樣的一個條文會不會讓他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11772].start |
31014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11772].end |
31016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11772].text |
很錯愕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11773].start |
31016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11773].end |
31018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11773].text |
二方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11774].start |
31017.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11774].end |
31019.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11774].text |
我深深覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[11775].start |
31019.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11775].end |
31021.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11775].text |
基層老師看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11776].start |
31021.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11776].end |
31023.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[11776].text |
可能他會不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[11777].start |
31023.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11777].end |
31025.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11777].text |
這個是十幾位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11778].start |
31025.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11778].end |
31027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11778].text |
或是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11779].start |
31027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11779].end |
31029.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11779].text |
甚至地方政府最後就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11780].start |
31030.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[11780].end |
31032.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[11780].text |
拋錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[11781].start |
31032.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11781].end |
31034.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11781].text |
大委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11782].start |
31034.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11782].end |
31036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11782].text |
院會那邊去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[11783].start |
31036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11783].end |
31038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11783].text |
我怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11784].start |
31036.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11784].end |
31038.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11784].text |
會造成對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11785].start |
31038.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11785].end |
31040.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11785].text |
院裡面的誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11786].start |
31040.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11786].end |
31042.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11786].text |
這個文字真的讓我們的基層老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[11787].start |
31043.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11787].end |
31045.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11787].text |
可能真的會很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11788].start |
31046.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11788].end |
31048.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11788].text |
那地方也會覺得這個延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[11789].start |
31048.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11789].end |
31050.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11789].text |
跟現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[11790].start |
31050.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11790].end |
31052.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11790].text |
的工作差異很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[11791].start |
31052.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11791].end |
31054.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11791].text |
如果拿這個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11792].start |
31054.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11792].end |
31056.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11792].text |
要進到大委員會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11793].start |
31056.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11793].end |
31058.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11793].text |
協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11794].start |
31058.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11794].end |
31060.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11794].text |
我覺得這個可能會對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11795].start |
31060.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11795].end |
31062.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11795].text |
召委會不會很不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[11796].start |
31064.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11796].end |
31066.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11796].text |
您長期這麼關心基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[11797].start |
31066.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11797].end |
31068.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11797].text |
那你再看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11798].start |
31068.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11798].end |
31070.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11798].text |
目前這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11799].start |
31072.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11799].end |
31074.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11799].text |
午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11800].start |
31073.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11800].end |
31075.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11800].text |
還有晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11801].start |
31075.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11801].end |
31077.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11801].text |
海鼠架公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11802].start |
31077.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11802].end |
31079.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11802].text |
然後再拉了一個替代公餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11803].start |
31079.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11803].end |
31081.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[11803].text |
可能請召委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11804].start |
31082.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11804].end |
31084.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11804].text |
還有蔡委員也在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11805].start |
31084.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11805].end |
31086.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11805].text |
另外在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11806].start |
31085.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11806].end |
31087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11806].text |
掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[11807].start |
31087.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11807].end |
31089.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11807].text |
給我們機會跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[11808].start |
31089.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11808].end |
31091.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11808].text |
溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[11809].start |
31091.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11809].end |
31093.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11809].text |
我們長期的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[11810].start |
31093.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11810].end |
31095.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11810].text |
會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[11811].start |
31094.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11811].end |
31096.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11811].text |
可能會要非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[11812].start |
31096.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11812].end |
31098.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11812].text |
用力跟地方跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11813].start |
31098.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11813].end |
31100.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11813].text |
學校來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11814].start |
31100.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11814].end |
31102.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11814].text |
說有這樣的一個文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11815].start |
31102.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11815].end |
31104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11815].text |
那我們站在原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11816].start |
31104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11816].end |
31106.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11816].text |
我們覺得這樣的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11817].start |
31108.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11817].end |
31110.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11817].text |
可能跟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11818].start |
31110.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11818].end |
31112.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11818].text |
學校已經這麼努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11819].start |
31112.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11819].end |
31114.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11819].text |
還要再這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11820].start |
31114.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11820].end |
31116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11820].text |
他們不知道這個拿去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11821].start |
31116.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11821].end |
31118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11821].text |
在大會那邊說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11822].start |
31118.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11822].end |
31120.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11822].text |
這個可能他們會不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[11823].start |
31119.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11823].end |
31121.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11823].text |
這一點可能會對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11824].start |
31121.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11824].end |
31123.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11824].text |
所有今天參與的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11825].start |
31123.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11825].end |
31125.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11825].text |
包含召委跟提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11826].start |
31125.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11826].end |
31127.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11826].text |
可能會有誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11827].start |
31127.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11827].end |
31129.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[11827].text |
我把這個原則跟大家報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11828].start |
31132.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11828].end |
31134.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11828].text |
好謝謝我們國家署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11829].start |
31134.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11829].end |
31136.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11829].text |
特別說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11830].start |
31136.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11830].end |
31138.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11830].text |
所以我再次的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11831].start |
31140.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11831].end |
31142.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11831].text |
我們提案委員的版本跟修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11832].start |
31142.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11832].end |
31144.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11832].text |
會一併送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[11833].start |
31144.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11833].end |
31146.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11833].text |
我們今天不是照 |
| transcript.whisperx[11834].start |
31146.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11834].end |
31148.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11834].text |
我們現在的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11835].start |
31148.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11835].end |
31150.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11835].text |
照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11836].start |
31150.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11836].end |
31152.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11836].text |
所以請看著直播的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11837].start |
31152.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11837].end |
31154.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11837].text |
還有國教署教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11838].start |
31154.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11838].end |
31156.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11838].text |
不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11839].start |
31156.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11839].end |
31158.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11839].text |
今天我們不是照這個版本就直接通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11840].start |
31158.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11840].end |
31160.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11840].text |
我們還有後續的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[11841].start |
31160.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11841].end |
31162.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11841].text |
那個程序叫做院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11842].start |
31162.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11842].end |
31164.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11842].text |
那也會由我親自來主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11843].start |
31164.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11843].end |
31166.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[11843].text |
相關的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11844].start |
31167.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11844].end |
31169.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11844].text |
院會協商的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[11845].start |
31169.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11845].end |
31171.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11845].text |
協商的部分我會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11846].start |
31171.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11846].end |
31173.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11846].text |
院會協商可能就要三長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11847].start |
31173.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11847].end |
31175.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11847].text |
我也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11848].start |
31175.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11848].end |
31177.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11848].text |
一定要建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11849].start |
31177.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11849].end |
31179.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11849].text |
三長一定要讓我們參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[11850].start |
31179.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11850].end |
31181.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11850].text |
還是心心念念要特別拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11851].start |
31181.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11851].end |
31183.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11851].text |
教育部如果覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[11852].start |
31183.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11852].end |
31185.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11852].text |
自己的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[11853].start |
31185.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11853].end |
31187.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11853].text |
這麼棒的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[11854].start |
31187.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11854].end |
31189.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11854].text |
還是趕快出院版 |
| transcript.whisperx[11855].start |
31189.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11855].end |
31191.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11855].text |
趕快出教育部自己的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11856].start |
31191.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11856].end |
31193.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11856].text |
這個部分是最能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11857].start |
31193.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11857].end |
31195.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11857].text |
貼近大家現場的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[11858].start |
31195.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11858].end |
31197.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11858].text |
那我想剛剛因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11859].start |
31197.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11859].end |
31199.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11859].text |
今天不是說不要過這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11860].start |
31199.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11860].end |
31201.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11860].text |
教育部也很堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11861].start |
31201.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11861].end |
31203.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11861].text |
自己的版本可能會比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[11862].start |
31203.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11862].end |
31205.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11862].text |
用字譴詞比較不會這麼的讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11863].start |
31205.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11863].end |
31207.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11863].text |
擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[11864].start |
31207.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11864].end |
31209.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11864].text |
那我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[11865].start |
31209.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11865].end |
31211.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11865].text |
所以我們所通過的是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11866].start |
31211.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11866].end |
31213.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11866].text |
協商處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11867].start |
31213.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11867].end |
31215.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11867].text |
並不是照案通過任何一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11868].start |
31215.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11868].end |
31217.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11868].text |
這以上簡單跟大家報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11869].start |
31218.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11869].end |
31220.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11869].text |
主席我有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[11870].start |
31220.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11870].end |
31222.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11870].text |
我很乖我等到你講完我都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11871].start |
31222.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11871].end |
31224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11871].text |
把手放下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11872].start |
31224.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11872].end |
31226.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11872].text |
我就跟你講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11873].start |
31226.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11873].end |
31228.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11873].text |
只要你大家照議事程序規則你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11874].start |
31228.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11874].end |
31230.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11874].text |
舉手你沒有打斷別人我們一定會尊重你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11875].start |
31230.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11875].end |
31232.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11875].text |
讓你講話請放心好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11876].start |
31232.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11876].end |
31234.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11876].text |
好接下來陳培育委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11877].start |
31235.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11877].end |
31237.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11877].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11878].start |
31237.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11878].end |
31239.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11878].text |
謝謝署長剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11879].start |
31239.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11879].end |
31241.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11879].text |
謝謝署長剛剛針對那個午餐晚餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[11880].start |
31241.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11880].end |
31243.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11880].text |
寒假的部分先提出你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11881].start |
31243.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11881].end |
31245.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11881].text |
的建議跟第一線參考意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11882].start |
31245.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11882].end |
31247.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11882].text |
我也想要舉一個例子目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[11883].start |
31247.83 |
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我們在看到其實雙北的老師 |
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在營養午餐最近 |
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有一些新聞是這樣說的 |
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說那個學生營養午餐免費 |
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然後課後班 |
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的學生也要留下來把飯吃完 |
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再回家也就是所有 |
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的小孩都免費了可是當 |
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所有的小孩都免費要留下來吃飯的時候 |
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就衍生出了另外一個問題就是 |
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老師要留下來陪小孩吃飯 |
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那老師要留下來陪小孩吃飯 |
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過去有的導師他 |
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如果孩子已經放學了沒有留下來吃飯 |
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導師就可以先走他可以自己去處理午餐 |
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他自己愛花多少錢愛去吃 |
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多少東西這是老師的自由 |
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那因為老師要留下來陪孩子們吃飯 |
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所以就有縣市政府說那我們就來 |
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幫老師出錢吧這樣一餐不論 |
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是多少錢可是對老師來說 |
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這個出吃飯的錢不是 |
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關鍵重點而是說老師 |
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原本的課後休息時間就因為 |
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就消失了嘛他必須要陪孩子 |
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一定要吃完午餐再走 |
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那就產生了很多的爭議 |
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我的意思就是說剛剛署長其實 |
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在講的就是這件事情光是 |
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陪孩子留下來吃一樣午餐這件事情 |
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其實很多老師第一線老師 |
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已經把基層的聲音 |
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反應給很多縣市政府了 |
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而這個聲音就像剛剛署長 |
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所說的未來如果通過的版本 |
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是沒有經過委員會的教文委員細緻的討論 |
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只有留到協商去 |
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真的我們所有的立法委員 |
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都會被誤會 |
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甚至不了解議事程序的人 |
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如果去翻開今天的議事物 |
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相關公報發現天啊 |
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全部都是民進黨委員坐在現場 |
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聽好喔全部都是民進黨委員坐在現場 |
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所以難道是民進黨委員 |
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要迫害現場老師做出這個決議嗎 |
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當然不是我剛剛的說法跟建議 |
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非常的清楚請主席再聽一次 |
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既然你都說了有冷凍期 |
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一個月那主席你不要放在那裡 |
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冷凍太可惜了不要把它冰起來 |
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你這麼熱情這麼熱心這麼想要 |
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解決這個問題這一個月不要 |
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冰起來主席 |
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在未來這一個月你至少還有兩次 |
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兩個禮拜會輪到你當召委 |
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這兩個禮拜當中你可以 |
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你包起來134134都排營養午餐 |
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你有六次的機會 |
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可以好好的逐條審查 |
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然後我們再回來 |
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review所有的版本 |
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等到所有版本期益最小 |
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分針最小留到協商現場 |
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那個是最有效率的 |
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也就是說我們把前面這一個月 |
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冷凍期拿來做在委員會 |
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裡面該做的事情 |
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真的是比較好的做法 |
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那我認為我這個建議 |
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真的是本著良心也本著 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11954].text |
希望這個法案最後 |
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送出去的內容真的是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11956].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11956].text |
一兼顧地方跟中央的分工 |
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二兼顧裁員跟人力 |
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三兼顧教師 |
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家長還有學生的權益 |
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最後兼顧一個 |
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負責任的立法委員可以做的事情 |
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所以主席不要冷凍一個月 |
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太可惜了雖然 |
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現在夏天很熱但不要冷凍 |
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我們那一個月裡面主席你有兩周 |
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你一三四一三四 |
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貓起來排 |
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反正你們國民黨都延會了嘛 |
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你們因為要開司法保護傘 |
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貓起來延會了那你就開開好開慢 |
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我們就陪你做好做滿 |
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我們陪你一起討論國民黨不來柯志銘不來 |
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謝榮介不來葉仁芝不來 |
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葛如君不來沒關係 |
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我們來陪你談然後就一條一條 |
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談我真的再次強烈 |
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建議公開呼籲拜託 |
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主席懇求主席 |
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不要這麼草率的 |
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把所有沒有辦法經過主條 |
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討論的東西全部丟報到協商去 |
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那個真的不是一個好的處理 |
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民生法案 |
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而且試射這麼多學生權益 |
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不要忘了他有幼兒園 |
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他有小學六年國中三年 |
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還有高中這麼多學生 |
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31461.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11988].end |
31463.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11988].text |
三千多所中小學的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[11989].start |
31463.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11989].end |
31465.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[11989].text |
不應該在我們教文被這樣對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[11990].start |
31468.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11990].end |
31470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11990].text |
好說到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11991].start |
31470.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11991].end |
31472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11991].text |
我還是呼應 |
| transcript.whisperx[11992].start |
31472.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11992].end |
31474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11992].text |
我們培育委員真的處理民生法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11993].start |
31474.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11993].end |
31476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11993].text |
我們也希望行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11994].start |
31476.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11994].end |
31478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11994].text |
應該要負責任提出自己的願板 |
| transcript.whisperx[11995].start |
31478.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11995].end |
31480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11995].text |
不要讓我們等了等 |
| transcript.whisperx[11996].start |
31480.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11996].end |
31482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11996].text |
還是等不到就一直持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11997].start |
31482.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11997].end |
31484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11997].text |
放在這邊冷凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[11998].start |
31484.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11998].end |
31486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11998].text |
那剛剛委員有提議就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11999].start |
31486.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11999].end |
31488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[11999].text |
我還有排案的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12000].start |
31488.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12000].end |
31490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12000].text |
那我也是覺得時間不太夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[12001].start |
31490.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12001].end |
31492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12001].text |
所以我也很希望說未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12002].start |
31492.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12002].end |
31494.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12002].text |
能夠有各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[12003].start |
31494.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12003].end |
31496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12003].text |
你擦花了 我應該擦水對不起我等一下再舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[12004].start |
31496.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12004].end |
31498.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12004].text |
這樣不行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12005].start |
31499.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12005].end |
31501.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12005].text |
我都讓你完整論述你都不讓我論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[12006].start |
31504.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12006].end |
31506.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12006].text |
當然我可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[12007].start |
31506.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12007].end |
31508.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12007].text |
你說的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[12008].start |
31508.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12008].end |
31510.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12008].text |
不要冷凍期一個月繼續排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[12009].start |
31510.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12009].end |
31512.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12009].text |
但是我也要回應一下委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12010].start |
31512.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12010].end |
31514.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12010].text |
因為其他還有運動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12011].start |
31514.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12011].end |
31516.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12011].text |
那文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12012].start |
31516.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12012].end |
31518.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12012].text |
有相關的一些專案報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12013].start |
31518.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12013].end |
31520.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12013].text |
那包括我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12014].start |
31520.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12014].end |
31522.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12014].text |
國民體育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12015].start |
31522.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12015].end |
31524.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12015].text |
在還沒有處理兒童工作證 |
| transcript.whisperx[12016].start |
31524.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12016].end |
31526.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12016].text |
之前相關的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12017].start |
31526.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12017].end |
31528.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12017].text |
是不是有一個配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[12018].start |
31528.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12018].end |
31530.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12018].text |
來協助處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12019].start |
31530.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12019].end |
31532.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12019].text |
那上次我還有提到這個電競專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12020].start |
31532.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12020].end |
31534.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12020].text |
那這些都是我很關注的一些法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12021].start |
31534.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12021].end |
31536.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12021].text |
所以我自己的時間也都不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[12022].start |
31536.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12022].end |
31538.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12022].text |
那委員既然這麼支持我 |
| transcript.whisperx[12023].start |
31538.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12023].end |
31540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12023].text |
希望我能夠持續的排審喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12024].start |
31540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12024].end |
31542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12024].text |
是不是也麻煩委員幫我 |
| transcript.whisperx[12025].start |
31542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12025].end |
31544.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12025].text |
建議一下民進黨黨團是不是就直接把 |
| transcript.whisperx[12026].start |
31544.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12026].end |
31546.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12026].text |
下週的排審也都丟給羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[12027].start |
31546.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12027].end |
31548.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12027].text |
讓我來處理 我會讓你看到我滿滿的誠意 |
| transcript.whisperx[12028].start |
31548.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12028].end |
31550.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12028].text |
我一定會讓你看到我持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[12029].start |
31550.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12029].end |
31552.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12029].text |
不會放棄堅持的一個理念 |
| transcript.whisperx[12030].start |
31552.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12030].end |
31554.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12030].text |
我會繼續排給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[12031].start |
31554.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12031].end |
31556.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12031].text |
那我的時間是真的不夠用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12032].start |
31556.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12032].end |
31558.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12032].text |
所以我必須要透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12033].start |
31558.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12033].end |
31560.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12033].text |
我能夠擔任召委的時候來推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[12034].start |
31560.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12034].end |
31562.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12034].text |
那以上簡單的跟您報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12035].start |
31562.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12035].end |
31565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12035].text |
那因為裴委員您多次發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12036].start |
31565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12036].end |
31567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12036].text |
然後剛剛又還有打斷我的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12037].start |
31567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12037].end |
31570.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12037].text |
那比較沒有尊重這個議事程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[12038].start |
31570.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12038].end |
31573.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12038].text |
那所以我就先交給蔡村守委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12039].start |
31573.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12039].end |
31574.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12039].text |
因為他有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[12040].start |
31574.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12040].end |
31576.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12040].text |
而且他沒有這麼多次發言 不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[12041].start |
31578.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12041].end |
31580.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12041].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12042].start |
31580.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12042].end |
31583.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12042].text |
那那個針對剛剛署長呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12043].start |
31583.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12043].end |
31586.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12043].text |
對於這個學校的午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[12044].start |
31586.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12044].end |
31588.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12044].text |
那有關於晚餐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12045].start |
31588.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12045].end |
31590.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12045].text |
那是月光天使 |
| transcript.whisperx[12046].start |
31590.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12046].end |
31592.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12046].text |
那通常這個月光天使 |
| transcript.whisperx[12047].start |
31592.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12047].end |
31594.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12047].text |
他是留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12048].start |
31594.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12048].end |
31596.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12048].text |
然後他有他一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12049].start |
31596.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12049].end |
31598.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12049].text |
不是他們班的導師留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12050].start |
31598.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12050].end |
31600.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12050].text |
因為他是前部的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[12051].start |
31600.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12051].end |
31602.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12051].text |
留部分的學生留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12052].start |
31602.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12052].end |
31604.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12052].text |
還有他主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[12053].start |
31604.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12053].end |
31606.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12053].text |
他的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12054].start |
31606.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12054].end |
31608.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12054].text |
這個月光天使的主任還有老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[12055].start |
31608.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12055].end |
31610.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12055].text |
來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12056].start |
31610.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12056].end |
31612.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12056].text |
但是沒有關係 我覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12057].start |
31612.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12057].end |
31614.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12057].text |
我們署長的一個說明也很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[12058].start |
31614.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12058].end |
31616.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12058].text |
可能就是說會造成學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[12059].start |
31616.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12059].end |
31618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12059].text |
很多的一個困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[12060].start |
31618.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12060].end |
31620.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12060].text |
那這個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12061].start |
31620.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12061].end |
31622.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12061].text |
我也同意就用那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12062].start |
31622.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12062].end |
31624.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12062].text |
教育部的那個條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[12063].start |
31624.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12063].end |
31626.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12063].text |
的一個版本來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12064].start |
31626.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12064].end |
31628.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12064].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12065].start |
31631.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12065].end |
31633.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12065].text |
這樣子我一個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12066].start |
31633.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12066].end |
31635.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12066].text |
那個村長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12067].start |
31635.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12067].end |
31637.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12067].text |
因為其實他們剛剛也有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12068].start |
31637.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12068].end |
31641.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12068].text |
第四條照教育部的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12069].start |
31641.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12069].end |
31643.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[12069].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[12070].start |
31644.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12070].end |
31646.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12070].text |
國教署長也有開口 |
| transcript.whisperx[12071].start |
31646.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12071].end |
31648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12071].text |
說怕有誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12072].start |
31648.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12072].end |
31650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12072].text |
那他們的文字比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[12073].start |
31650.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12073].end |
31652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12073].text |
可以有這個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12074].start |
31652.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12074].end |
31654.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12074].text |
是不是我們也不要這麼堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12075].start |
31654.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12075].end |
31656.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12075].text |
第四條我認為是可以照 |
| transcript.whisperx[12076].start |
31656.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12076].end |
31658.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[12076].text |
教育部建議修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[12077].start |
31658.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12077].end |
31660.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12077].text |
教育部版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12078].start |
31660.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12078].end |
31662.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12078].text |
建議文字修正好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12079].start |
31662.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12079].end |
31664.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12079].text |
那我們兩個沒意見配合大家嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12080].start |
31665.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12080].end |
31667.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12080].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12081].start |
31668.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12081].end |
31670.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12081].text |
教育部的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[12082].start |
31670.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12082].end |
31672.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12082].text |
是本條例所稱學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[12083].start |
31672.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12083].end |
31674.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12083].text |
指高級中等以下學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[12084].start |
31674.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12084].end |
31676.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12084].text |
那這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12085].start |
31676.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12085].end |
31678.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12085].text |
因為剛剛有委員也特別提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12086].start |
31678.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12086].end |
31680.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12086].text |
那是要以教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12087].start |
31680.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12087].end |
31682.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12087].text |
建議修正文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[12088].start |
31682.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[12088].end |
31684.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[12088].text |
那我們就第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[12089].start |
31684.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[12089].end |
31686.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[12089].text |
修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12090].start |
31686.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[12090].end |
31688.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[12090].text |
照教育部建議的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[12091].start |
31691.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[12091].end |
31693.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[12091].text |
好我們繼續往下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[12092].start |
31697.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12092].end |
31699.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12092].text |
好現在來到了第五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[12093].start |
31699.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12093].end |
31701.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12093].text |
那第五條因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[12094].start |
31701.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12094].end |
31703.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12094].text |
第五條又重新開始計算我們的發言次數了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12095].start |
31703.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12095].end |
31705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12095].text |
那就請我們的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12096].start |
31705.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12096].end |
31707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12096].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12097].start |
31707.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12097].end |
31709.53 |
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議員委員不好意思因為你舉手比較慢 |
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31709.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12098].end |
31711.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12098].text |
所以我要先給陳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12099].start |
31711.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12099].end |
31713.53 |
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因為她現在就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12100].start |
31713.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12100].end |
31715.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12100].text |
重新發言計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[12101].start |
31715.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12101].end |
31717.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12101].text |
那陳佩玉委員在發言之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[12102].start |
31717.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12102].end |
31719.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12102].text |
我就還是要拜託我們不要打斷她 |
| transcript.whisperx[12103].start |
31719.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12103].end |
31721.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12103].text |
講話的這個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[12104].start |
31721.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12104].end |
31723.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12104].text |
因為她也答應我們不會打斷我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12105].start |
31723.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12105].end |
31725.53 |
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那如果你打斷我們的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[12106].start |
31725.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12106].end |
31727.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12106].text |
那可能我就沒辦法照醫師程序繼續主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12107].start |
31727.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12107].end |
31729.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12107].text |
那我可能就要先給其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12108].start |
31729.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12108].end |
31731.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12108].text |
來做一個發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12109].start |
31731.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12109].end |
31733.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12109].text |
那也請陳佩玉委員能夠體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[12110].start |
31733.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12110].end |
31735.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12110].text |
因為處理這個醫師程序的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12111].start |
31735.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12111].end |
31737.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12111].text |
我想大家都還是希望盡可能的公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[12112].start |
31737.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12112].end |
31739.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12112].text |
那因為你剛剛有 |
| transcript.whisperx[12113].start |
31739.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12113].end |
31741.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12113].text |
稍微打斷到我我覺得這樣子是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12114].start |
31741.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12114].end |
31743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12114].text |
再次提醒你 |
| transcript.whisperx[12115].start |
31743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12115].end |
31745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12115].text |
那以上這個我們陳佩玉委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12116].start |
31748.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12116].end |
31750.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12116].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[12117].start |
31752.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12117].end |
31754.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12117].text |
我先說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12118].start |
31754.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12118].end |
31756.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12118].text |
所以從現在開始只要是羅廷瑋主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[12119].start |
31756.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12119].end |
31758.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12119].text |
所主持的任何會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12120].start |
31758.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12120].end |
31760.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12120].text |
我們就會有發言次數的限制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12121].start |
31760.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12121].end |
31762.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12121].text |
或者是有發言時間的限制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12122].start |
31762.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12122].end |
31764.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12122].text |
我要先請主席單位一併回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[12123].start |
31764.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12123].end |
31766.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12123].text |
那回到第五條這件事情之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[12124].start |
31766.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12124].end |
31768.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12124].text |
我想要針對剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[12125].start |
31768.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12125].end |
31770.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12125].text |
沒辦法發言的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12126].start |
31770.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12126].end |
31772.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12126].text |
我要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[12127].start |
31772.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12127].end |
31774.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12127].text |
之前羅廷瑋委員其實已經騙過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12128].start |
31774.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12128].end |
31776.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12128].text |
吳立華委員兩次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12129].start |
31776.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12129].end |
31778.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12129].text |
所以吳立華委員就給了兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[12130].start |
31778.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12130].end |
31780.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12130].text |
因為你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12131].start |
31780.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12131].end |
31782.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12131].text |
拿去開全院委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12132].start |
31782.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12132].end |
31784.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12132].text |
你覺得你的權益受損 |
| transcript.whisperx[12133].start |
31784.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12133].end |
31786.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12133].text |
所以你請吳立華給你兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[12134].start |
31786.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12134].end |
31788.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12134].text |
吳委員非常善良 |
| transcript.whisperx[12135].start |
31788.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12135].end |
31790.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12135].text |
非常好心給了你兩天 |
| transcript.whisperx[12136].start |
31790.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12136].end |
31792.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12136].text |
可是當時也沒有看到名牌預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[12137].start |
31792.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12137].end |
31794.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12137].text |
所以我要公開的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12138].start |
31794.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12138].end |
31796.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12138].text |
吳立華委員會有他自己的排案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12139].start |
31796.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12139].end |
31798.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12139].text |
會有他自己的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[12140].start |
31798.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12140].end |
31800.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12140].text |
既然各自擔任章委就有自己的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[12141].start |
31800.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12141].end |
31802.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12141].text |
實在是沒有必要公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[12142].start |
31802.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12142].end |
31804.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12142].text |
討拍要吳立華委員還要讓時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12143].start |
31804.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12143].end |
31806.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12143].text |
給你這是極其的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[12144].start |
31806.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12144].end |
31808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12144].text |
如果你真的覺得你很急 |
| transcript.whisperx[12145].start |
31808.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12145].end |
31810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12145].text |
不夠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12146].start |
31810.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12146].end |
31812.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12146].text |
那不就落實了我剛剛所說的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12147].start |
31812.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12147].end |
31814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12147].text |
你其實沒有審慎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12148].start |
31814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12148].end |
31816.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12148].text |
在評估原來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12149].start |
31816.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12149].end |
31818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12149].text |
營養午餐需要花這麼多時間討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[12150].start |
31818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12150].end |
31820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12150].text |
所以你就決定用送出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[12151].start |
31820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12151].end |
31822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12151].text |
這個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12152].start |
31822.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12152].end |
31824.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12152].text |
最後落得去所謂的院長協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[12153].start |
31824.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12153].end |
31826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12153].text |
我真的覺得不是最好的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12154].start |
31826.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12154].end |
31828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12154].text |
再來我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12155].start |
31828.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12155].end |
31830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12155].text |
之所以沒有院板其實當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[12156].start |
31830.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12156].end |
31832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12156].text |
教育部跟國教署早在非常非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[12157].start |
31832.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12157].end |
31834.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12157].text |
早之前就已經說明了他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12158].start |
31834.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12158].end |
31836.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12158].text |
持續在跟地方政府開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12159].start |
31836.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12159].end |
31838.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12159].text |
我在三年前進到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[12160].start |
31838.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12160].end |
31840.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12160].text |
前面幾次質詢我就已經談到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12161].start |
31840.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12161].end |
31842.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12161].text |
關於營養午餐當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[12162].start |
31842.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12162].end |
31844.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12162].text |
我也不敢貿然的要求專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12163].start |
31844.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12163].end |
31846.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12163].text |
主要的原因我們不是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[12164].start |
31846.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12164].end |
31848.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12164].text |
專法有其必要跟有其重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[12165].start |
31848.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12165].end |
31850.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12165].text |
但是我想舉一個非常簡單的例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[12166].start |
31850.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12166].end |
31852.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12166].text |
以我自己所在的社區 |
| transcript.whisperx[12167].start |
31852.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12167].end |
31854.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12167].text |
一條路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12168].start |
31856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12168].end |
31858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12168].text |
無所學校可能就有五種收費方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12169].start |
31858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12169].end |
31860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12169].text |
五種公餐模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[12170].start |
31860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12170].end |
31862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12170].text |
那不過就是一個台北市的一條路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12171].start |
31862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12171].end |
31864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12171].text |
而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[12172].start |
31864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12172].end |
31866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12172].text |
而光是台北市一條路上的這五所學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[12173].start |
31866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12173].end |
31868.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12173].text |
就有不同的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[12174].start |
31868.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12174].end |
31870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12174].text |
更不要說整個台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[12175].start |
31870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12175].end |
31872.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12175].text |
更不要說整個台灣22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[12176].start |
31872.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12176].end |
31874.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12176].text |
所以我會說當時我們辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[12177].start |
31874.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12177].end |
31876.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12177].text |
不斷的在這三年之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12178].start |
31876.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12178].end |
31878.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12178].text |
跟教育部溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[12179].start |
31878.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12179].end |
31880.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12179].text |
從國產食材從食材登入 |
| transcript.whisperx[12180].start |
31880.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12180].end |
31882.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12180].text |
到飲食教育到食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[12181].start |
31882.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12181].end |
31884.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12181].text |
到營養師的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[12182].start |
31884.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12182].end |
31886.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12182].text |
到出宮怎麼算 |
| transcript.whisperx[12183].start |
31886.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12183].end |
31888.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12183].text |
然後到團善業者之間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[12184].start |
31888.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12184].end |
31890.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12184].text |
或者是公辦公營民辦民營 |
| transcript.whisperx[12185].start |
31890.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12185].end |
31892.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12185].text |
等等的或者不同學校的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[12186].start |
31892.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12186].end |
31894.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12186].text |
我隨便就可以舉出十個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[12187].start |
31894.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12187].end |
31896.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12187].text |
我認為是教育部要持續跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[12188].start |
31896.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12188].end |
31898.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12188].text |
溝通收集意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12189].start |
31898.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12189].end |
31900.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12189].text |
在意見收集非常充分之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12190].start |
31900.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12190].end |
31902.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12190].text |
我認為我們才有資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[12191].start |
31902.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12191].end |
31904.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12191].text |
做一個負責任的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12192].start |
31904.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12192].end |
31906.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12192].text |
而不是把所有你以為你所想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[12193].start |
31906.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12193].end |
31908.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12193].text |
都是對的全部丟包給 |
| transcript.whisperx[12194].start |
31908.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12194].end |
31910.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12194].text |
國教署或是丟包給地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[12195].start |
31910.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12195].end |
31912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12195].text |
所以我要說他們從來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12196].start |
31912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12196].end |
31914.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12196].text |
沒有像你所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12197].start |
31914.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12197].end |
31916.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12197].text |
不在營養午餐這個議題上努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[12198].start |
31916.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12198].end |
31918.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12198].text |
我對面的科長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12199].start |
31918.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12199].end |
31920.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12199].text |
我就不要講他的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[12200].start |
31920.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12200].end |
31922.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12200].text |
他非常的認真踏實 |
| transcript.whisperx[12201].start |
31922.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12201].end |
31924.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12201].text |
接下這份工作以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12202].start |
31924.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12202].end |
31926.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12202].text |
他對於營養午餐在第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[12203].start |
31926.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12203].end |
31928.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12203].text |
不論是跟團善業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[12204].start |
31928.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12204].end |
31930.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12204].text |
不論是跟家長團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[12205].start |
31930.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12205].end |
31932.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12205].text |
不論是跟教師團體跟地方政府的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[12206].start |
31932.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12206].end |
31934.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12206].text |
花掉他非常非常多的力氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12207].start |
31934.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12207].end |
31936.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12207].text |
但是他沒有放棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[12208].start |
31936.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12208].end |
31938.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12208].text |
他今天依然坐在我們教文委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12209].start |
31938.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12209].end |
31940.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12209].text |
聽著每一個委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12210].start |
31940.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12210].end |
31942.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12210].text |
看著每一個委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12211].start |
31942.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12211].end |
31944.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12211].text |
這就是我們教育部同仁最辛苦的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[12212].start |
31944.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12212].end |
31946.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12212].text |
因為教育的失誤他試射中央跟地方的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[12213].start |
31946.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12213].end |
31948.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12213].text |
所以講了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[12214].start |
31948.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12214].end |
31950.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12214].text |
而且我每一次都要換不同的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12215].start |
31950.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12215].end |
31952.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12215].text |
就是因為我想要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12216].start |
31952.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12216].end |
31954.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12216].text |
我充滿了誠意跟拜託的心情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12217].start |
31954.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12217].end |
31956.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12217].text |
想要請求主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[12218].start |
31956.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12218].end |
31958.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12218].text |
我要再次的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12219].start |
31958.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12219].end |
31960.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12219].text |
雖然你剛剛已經宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12220].start |
31960.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12220].end |
31962.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12220].text |
但是主席回頭不晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[12221].start |
31962.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12221].end |
31964.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12221].text |
沒有很難踩下煞車 |
| transcript.whisperx[12222].start |
31964.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12222].end |
31966.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12222].text |
等一下從第五條開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[12223].start |
31966.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12223].end |
31968.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12223].text |
我真的建議只要沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[12224].start |
31968.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12224].end |
31970.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12224].text |
只要還沒有蒐集好地方政府的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[12225].start |
31970.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12225].end |
31972.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12225].text |
我真的認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[12226].start |
31972.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12226].end |
31974.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12226].text |
我們不是不審 |
| transcript.whisperx[12227].start |
31974.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12227].end |
31976.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12227].text |
而是留在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12228].start |
31976.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12228].end |
31978.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12228].text |
整部法案回過頭來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12229].start |
31978.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12229].end |
31980.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12229].text |
再逐一討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[12230].start |
31980.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12230].end |
31982.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12230].text |
光是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[12231].start |
31982.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12231].end |
31984.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12231].text |
到底要不要供晚餐這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12232].start |
31984.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12232].end |
31986.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[12232].text |
其實你也發現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12233].start |
31986.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[12233].end |
31988.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[12233].text |
要不是我們再給署長一次說明的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12234].start |
31990.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12234].end |
31992.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12234].text |
讓蔡村丑委員得以 |
| transcript.whisperx[12235].start |
31992.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12235].end |
31994.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12235].text |
反轉過來說好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12236].start |
31994.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12236].end |
31996.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[12236].text |
他可以接受教育部的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12237].start |
31996.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12237].end |
31998.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12237].text |
我不知道到時候我們原來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12238].start |
31998.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12238].end |
32000.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12238].text |
如果送進委員會會發生什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12239].start |
32000.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12239].end |
32002.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12239].text |
這就是我剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12240].start |
32002.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12240].end |
32004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12240].text |
為什麼留在委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[12241].start |
32004.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12241].end |
32006.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12241].text |
讓委員會中心主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[12242].start |
32006.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12242].end |
32008.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12242].text |
發揮他的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[12243].start |
32008.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12243].end |
32010.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12243].text |
一直是民進黨團不管在哪一個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12244].start |
32010.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12244].end |
32012.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12244].text |
在哪一個會期在哪一個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12245].start |
32012.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12245].end |
32014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12245].text |
甚至是預算案上我們所積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[12246].start |
32014.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12246].end |
32016.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12246].text |
主張的如果今天委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12247].start |
32016.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12247].end |
32018.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12247].text |
淪為過水送送送 |
| transcript.whisperx[12248].start |
32018.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12248].end |
32020.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12248].text |
協商協商協商送送送 |
| transcript.whisperx[12249].start |
32020.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12249].end |
32022.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12249].text |
協商協商協商那我們今天真的不需要坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[12250].start |
32022.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12250].end |
32024.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12250].text |
而且主席請你放眼看去 |
| transcript.whisperx[12251].start |
32024.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12251].end |
32026.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12251].text |
今天有多少教育部的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[12252].start |
32028 |
| transcript.whisperx[12252].end |
32030 |
| transcript.whisperx[12252].text |
陪同大家出席在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[12253].start |
32030.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12253].end |
32032.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12253].text |
我相信他們想要聽到的是真的實質的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[12254].start |
32032.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12254].end |
32034.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12254].text |
然後發現了很大的bug |
| transcript.whisperx[12255].start |
32034.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12255].end |
32036.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12255].text |
再拜託國教署回去跟地方政府討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[12256].start |
32036.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12256].end |
32038.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12256].text |
地方政府再把意見送回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12257].start |
32038.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12257].end |
32040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12257].text |
我們可以有非常非常多時間討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[12258].start |
32040.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12258].end |
32042.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12258].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[12259].start |
32041.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12259].end |
32043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12259].text |
針對第五條我當然有我的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12260].start |
32043.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12260].end |
32045.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12260].text |
如果時間允許我當然願意談 |
| transcript.whisperx[12261].start |
32045.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12261].end |
32047.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12261].text |
但我更想談的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12262].start |
32047.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12262].end |
32049.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12262].text |
拜託主席我再次拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[12263].start |
32049.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12263].end |
32051.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12263].text |
在謝龍介委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12264].start |
32051.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12264].end |
32053.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12264].text |
柯志恩委員葉元植委員葛如君委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12265].start |
32053.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12265].end |
32055.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12265].text |
羅志強委員都沒有出席 |
| transcript.whisperx[12266].start |
32055.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12266].end |
32057.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12266].text |
今天這個下午 |
| transcript.whisperx[12267].start |
32058.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12267].end |
32060.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12267].text |
我真的不認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[12268].start |
32060.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12268].end |
32062.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12268].text |
我們就只是說大家沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[12269].start |
32062.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12269].end |
32064.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12269].text |
送出去協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[12270].start |
32064.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12270].end |
32066.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12270].text |
這是一個好的做法不這是一個最不好的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12271].start |
32066.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12271].end |
32068.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12271].text |
我認為也罔顧了今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[12272].start |
32068.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12272].end |
32070.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12272].text |
沒有出席的這些國民黨委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[12273].start |
32070.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12273].end |
32072.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12273].text |
非常可惜搞不好他們跟我是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12274].start |
32072.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12274].end |
32074.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12274].text |
有共識的他們搞不好也認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[12275].start |
32074.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12275].end |
32076.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12275].text |
留在委員會裡面好好的整本談完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12276].start |
32076.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12276].end |
32078.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12276].text |
再review一遍才是更好的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12277].start |
32078.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12277].end |
32080.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[12277].text |
以上謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[12278].start |
32080.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12278].end |
32082.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12278].text |
謝謝你真的感謝你還剩一分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[12279].start |
32082.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12279].end |
32084.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12279].text |
可以讓我處理事情喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12280].start |
32084.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12280].end |
32086.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12280].text |
先回應一下待會讓你發言喔不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[12281].start |
32086.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12281].end |
32088.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12281].text |
那我們沒有次數的限制喔一定讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[12282].start |
32088.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12282].end |
32090.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12282].text |
暢所欲言但是剛剛是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[12283].start |
32090.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12283].end |
32092.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12283].text |
你有打斷別人的程序發言喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12284].start |
32092.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12284].end |
32094.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12284].text |
不是你有打斷我的發言喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12285].start |
32094.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12285].end |
32096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12285].text |
所以我有跟你講解所以我請蔡眷佐委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12286].start |
32096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12286].end |
32098.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12286].text |
先發言並不是不讓你發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12287].start |
32098.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12287].end |
32100.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12287].text |
但我們在處理的剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[12288].start |
32100.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12288].end |
32102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12288].text |
這個第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[12289].start |
32102.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12289].end |
32104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12289].text |
也不是大家有異議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12290].start |
32104.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12290].end |
32106.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12290].text |
而是大家都有同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[12291].start |
32106.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12291].end |
32108.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12291].text |
比如說剛剛有好像民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12292].start |
32108.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12292].end |
32110.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12292].text |
說要照教育部的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[12293].start |
32110.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12293].end |
32112.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12293].text |
那所以國民黨跟民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[12294].start |
32112.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12294].end |
32114.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12294].text |
也都同意的所以剛剛是一致認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[12295].start |
32114.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12295].end |
32116.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12295].text |
就以教育部的文字來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12296].start |
32116.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12296].end |
32118.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12296].text |
所以就直接照 |
| transcript.whisperx[12297].start |
32118.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12297].end |
32120.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12297].text |
教育部的修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12298].start |
32120.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12298].end |
32122.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12298].text |
這跟您以上報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12299].start |
32122.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12299].end |
32124.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12299].text |
並沒有說一意孤行喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12300].start |
32124.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12300].end |
32126.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12300].text |
這是有共識的情況去處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12301].start |
32126.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12301].end |
32128.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[12301].text |
那不好意思我現在先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12302].start |
32131.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[12302].end |
32133.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[12302].text |
呃...會議時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12303].start |
32135.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12303].end |
32137.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12303].text |
下午會議時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12304].start |
32137.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12304].end |
32139.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12304].text |
我們繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[12305].start |
32139.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12305].end |
32143.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12305].text |
學校午餐及飲食教育條例的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12306].start |
32143.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[12306].end |
32145.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[12306].text |
我們到處理完畢為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[12307].start |
32145.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[12307].end |
32147.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[12307].text |
反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[12308].start |
32147.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[12308].end |
32149.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[12308].text |
好反對請點人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[12309].start |
32150.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12309].end |
32152.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12309].text |
柯志恩沒來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12310].start |
32152.99 |
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葉元之沒來啊 |
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32156.99 |
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羅志強葛如君憲龍界在哪裡 |
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站出來啊 |
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反對 |
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然後等一下羅廷瑋就會去剪影片說 |
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民進黨反對修 |
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民進黨不支持學生的食安 |
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民進黨不顧小孩 |
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抗議抗議抗議 |
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我們希望能夠 |
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32174.48 |
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處理到完畢為止為止 |
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繼續加油 |
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32178.48 |
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來為大家審查 |
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那現在呢 |
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主席請處理我們的反對 |
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32184.48 |
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主席請處理我們的反對 |
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32186.48 |
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我要處理你的反對 |
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32188.48 |
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所以我請點人數要投票了嘛 |
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32190.48 |
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主席真的很沒有人性耶 |
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32192.48 |
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我只要五點多從台南坐車 |
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32195.97 |
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七點多在這邊簽到 |
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32197.97 |
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來看大家都陪同到現在 |
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32197.97 |
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32199.97 |
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搞整天你還要搞到晚上嗎 |
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32201.43 |
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32203.43 |
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對不起我早上有沒有比你早 |
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32203.43 |
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32205.43 |
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重點是我們不敢陪同 |
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32205.43 |
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32207.43 |
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我第二名表 |
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32207.43 |
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32209.43 |
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第二名講話的你第幾個 |
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32209.43 |
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32211.43 |
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我台南來的 |
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32210.47 |
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32212.47 |
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不管不管你自己要講時間 |
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32214.47 |
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誰比較早我比你還早你 |
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32216.47 |
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怎麼不說主席那我抗議 |
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32218.47 |
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我沒人的抗議所以 |
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現在要來表決了嘛我 |
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32222.47 |
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沒有說一定要到十二點啊 |
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32222.47 |
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32224.47 |
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我現在是不是問你們意見 |
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32226.47 |
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這個東西可以好好的 |
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32228.47 |
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責其在審 |
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32230.47 |
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那為什麼一定要在現在 |
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我覺得你處理 |
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32232.47 |
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32234.47 |
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還要延後 |
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32234.47 |
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32236.47 |
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這個開會我也覺得很納悶 |
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32236.47 |
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32238.47 |
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你這種處理方式 |
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32240.47 |
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你不是說 |
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32241.84 |
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32243.84 |
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你覺得沒有人性 |
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32245.84 |
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但我希望這個趕快能夠推進 |
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32247.84 |
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沒有人性 |
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32249.84 |
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謝謝你啦這是你的建議啦 |
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32251.84 |
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你覺得工作太累那您可以去休息 |
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32253.84 |
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但是您不可以說想要繼續做的人 |
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32255.84 |
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說沒有人性 |
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32257.84 |
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我不是你們國民黨的其他的同仁 |
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就都不來 |
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好會議時間我們 |
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主席我要先提醒你一件事喔 |
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32267.42 |
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你做一件很大的錯誤喔 |
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因為已經超過五點半你才要處理中意 |
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32271.42 |
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照理說你剛剛會議 |
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32273.42 |
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我剛才就被你們插花 |
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我們來看一下會議記錄 |
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裡面是哪五點半 |
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32279.42 |
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照理說你只要過了五點半 |
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你就不能處理動議 |
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在立院執行十法裡面 |
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主席敲過了敲過了 |
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你根本就在犯法 |
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好我知道最後讓我講幾句話嘛 |
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29分的時候要處理結果被你們拖到 |
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所以就沒辦法處理喔 |
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這個我 |
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我也要抗議啦你國民黨都沒來 |
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柯志恩有來 |
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李源直有來葛如君有來謝榮介 |
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羅志祥有來然後我們這些民進黨的 |
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陪你在這邊陪羅高子讀書啦 |
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謝謝啦 |
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那我也不能處理動議了啦 |
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那不好意思因為超過了 |
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30分 |
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那很可惜剛剛29分 |
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我要經典人數 |
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要準備投票的時候 |
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那透過委員的發言 |
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那超過這個時間我們只好尊重 |
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那今天我們就只好 |
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擇期再審 |
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審查結果免於重複宣讀 |
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啊對不起對不起 |
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抱歉抱歉抱歉 |
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學校午餐及飲食 |
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教育條例相關草案定期 |
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繼續審查 |
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報告委員會今日議程處理完畢現在散會 |
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