| IVOD_ID |
17566 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17566 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
18 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第18次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-02T08:31:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-02T18:24:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
09:52:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 會議時間 |
2026-07-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第18次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部及所屬單位預算案。
二、繼續審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關直轄市及縣市政府一般性補助款文化部主管部分預算案。
三、繼續審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管國立文化機構作業基金附屬單位預算案。
四、繼續審查115年度中央政府總預算案有關文化部主管文化發展基金附屬單位預算案。
五、繼續審查115年度行政法人國家表演藝術中心、文化內容策進院、國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案。
【6月29日及7月1日、2日三天一次會】） |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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35470.46659375 |
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0.922 |
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SPEAKER_01 |
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羅委員廷瑋 |
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35488.79284375 |
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35503.37284375 |
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0.911 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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35503.37284375 |
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35505.26284375 |
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0.922 |
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SPEAKER_01 |
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羅委員廷瑋 |
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35505.26284375 |
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35507.10221875 |
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0.911 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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35506.91659375 |
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35509.12721875 |
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0.922 |
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SPEAKER_01 |
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羅委員廷瑋 |
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35508.23284375 |
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35521.14221875 |
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0.911 |
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SPEAKER_01 |
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羅委員廷瑋 |
| transcript.pyannote[3717].start |
35522.39096875 |
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35524.75346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3717].speaker_score |
0.911 |
| transcript.pyannote[3718].speaker |
SPEAKER_07 |
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李部長遠 |
| transcript.pyannote[3718].start |
35525.36096875 |
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35535.23284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3718].speaker_score |
0.96 |
| transcript.pyannote[3719].speaker |
SPEAKER_07 |
| transcript.pyannote[3719].speaker_name |
李部長遠 |
| transcript.pyannote[3719].start |
35535.45221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3719].end |
35564.20721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3719].speaker_score |
0.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
2010.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
2011.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
報告委員會 現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
2011.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
2013.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
本日會議議程是繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
2013.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
2017.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
115年度中央政府總預算有關文化部所屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
2017.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
2023.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
直轄市縣市政府一般性補助管文化部主管部份預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
2023.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
2027.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
國立文化機構作業基金及文化發展基金附屬單位預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
2027.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
2032.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
115年度行政法人國家表演藝術中心文化內容策進院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
2032.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
2035.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
國家電影及視聽文化中心預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
2039.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
2042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
首先先介紹在場的委員 羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
2046.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
2047.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
郭一行委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
2049.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
2050.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
柯志仁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
2055.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
2055.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
蔡村守委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
2058.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
2059.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
陳秀髮委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
2061.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
2062.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
郭榮鏡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
2063.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
2064.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
通曉林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
2066.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
2069.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
不好意思 剛剛柯志仁委員比較嬌小 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
2069.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
2070.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
所以被羅志祥擋到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
2070.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
2071.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
2073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
2076.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
介紹與會官員 文化部部長 李遠 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
2079.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
2080.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
政務市長 李靜慧 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
2082.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
2085.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
政務市長 王詩詩 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
2085.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
2085.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
2086.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
2088.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
政務市長 徐怡君 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
2092.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
2096.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
行政法人國家表演藝術中心 董事長楊奇文 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
2100.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
2104.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
行政法人文化內容策進院院長 王敏惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
2106.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
2110.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
國家電影及視聽文化中心 董事長 褚明仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
2112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
2115.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
行政院主計總處公務預算處專門委員 陳台偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
2119.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
2123.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
其他練習機關請參閱名單不再主義介紹並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
2127.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
2129.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
現在進行預算案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
2130.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
2132.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
文化部所屬單位預算提案制 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
2133.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
2135.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
總計287案 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
2136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
2137.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
基金預算案3案 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
2138.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
2140.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
行政法人提案預算案7案 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
2141.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
2145.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
進行討論前先說明一下我們的預算案的處理方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
2146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
2148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
委員所提預算提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
2149.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
2149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
稅務部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
2150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
2150.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
一來遠別 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
2151.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
2151.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
2152.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
2152.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
2153.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
2154.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
稅書部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
2154.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
2155.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
以機關別 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
2155.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
2156.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
以募 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
2157.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
2157.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
解 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
2157.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
2158.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
2159.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
2160.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
依序進行審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
2161.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
2162.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
各預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
2162.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
2165.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
與處理的委員所提增三提案後 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
2165.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
2167.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
其餘會涉及預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
2168.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
2168.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
2168.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
2169.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
均與照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
2170.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
2174.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
預算提案如改主決議或修正內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
2174.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
2178.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
請機關將修正內容經提案委員簽名提案後 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2179.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
同意後 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2181.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2183.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
送交主席臺並列入公報紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2183.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2186.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
考慮時請參閱提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2186.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2187.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
彙整表 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2187.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
及提案本 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2188.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2190.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
請議事人員宣讀預算書 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2190.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2191.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
提案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2191.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2193.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
並進行討論與協商時 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2193.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2194.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2195.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
如有新政府修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2195.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2196.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
文字之決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2196.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2198.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
請議事人員一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2200.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
好 我們現在休息兩分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2202.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2203.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
我們要下去換位置 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2279.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2279.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2280.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2282.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
我們現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2283 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2284.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
首先處理稅務部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2284.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2286.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
依款別以項為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2286.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2287.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
依序處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2288.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2294.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
第二款 罰款及賠償收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2294.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2295.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
196項 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2296.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
2296.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
中文 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
2297.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
2298.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
文化部提案案號 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
2298.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
2299.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
2300.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
2301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
請提案委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
2304.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
2306.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
2310.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
2312.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
如果沒有委員有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
2312.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
2313.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我們就照案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
2315.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
2316.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
對不起 預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
2322.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
2323.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
第四款 財產收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
2323.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
2325.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
第208項 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
2325.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
2326.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
文化部提案案號 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
2326.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
2327.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
2327.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
2327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
及第三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
2327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
2329.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
才審查的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
2330.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
2332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
請提案委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
2333.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
2334.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
葛如金委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
2337.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
2338.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
2338.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
2340.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
那本席所提的第二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
2340.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
2343.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
是關於藝術銀行的租金收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
2343.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
2345.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
那藝術銀行的核心內涵 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
2345.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
2347.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
其實就是政府購買我國的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
2347.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
2349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
尤其是新興藝術家的作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
2350.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
2352.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
本席自己也有非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
2353.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
2355.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
這個做藝術創作的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
2355.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
2357.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
不管是數位藝術 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
2357.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
2358.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
新媒體藝術 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
2358.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
2360.35 |
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那其實這樣的一個機制 |
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2360.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
2362.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
是值得鼓勵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
2362.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
2364.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
由政府來購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
2364.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
2365.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
2365.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
2366.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
我們再有一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
2366.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
2368.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
支出給政府部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
2368.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
2371.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
公司立法人團體或民間企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
2371.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
2373.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
藉此鼓勵潛力的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
2373.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
2375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
一起來提升我們台灣藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
2375.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
2377.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
跟藝術品的能見度 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
2377.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
2379.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
那這也是台灣唯一 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
2379.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
2382.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
一個以購置作品形式來 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
2382.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
2384.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
扶植潛力藝術家的一個公設機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
2385.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
2386.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
本席一直以來都非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
2386.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
2387.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
這樣的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
2388.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
2390.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
那也希望能夠當作他們的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
2390.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
2392.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
第一步或者一個墊腳石 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
2392.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
2394.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
那我們立法院韓國院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
2394.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
2396.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
還有我們立法院的相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
2396.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
2397.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
也非常支持啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
2397.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
2399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
所以在我們最近的幾個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
2399.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
2402.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
在很多的會議的場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
2402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
2404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
我們也都有使用文化銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
2404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
2405.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
這樣的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
2405.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
2407.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
租用文化銀行這樣的一些作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
2408.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
2409.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
那像我們教人委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
2410.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
2411.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
各位如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
2411.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
2412.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
目光往後看 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
2412.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
2414.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
其實這幅非常美麗的作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
2414.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
2416.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
就是由文化銀行來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
2416.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
2417.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
那但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
2417.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
2418.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
我們也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
2419.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
2421.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
本席像這個本席辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
2421.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
2424.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
像藝術銀行索取租賃的客戶名系 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
2424.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
2425.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
卻發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
2425.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
2429.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
民國113年到115年之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
2429.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
2431.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
那藝術銀行的租賃客戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
2431.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
2433.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
卻有逐年減少的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
2434.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
2437.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
從113年的78名客戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
2437.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
2441.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
下降到115年只剩下62名客戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
2441.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
2444.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
那單位希望能夠請這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
2444.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
2448.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
有負責像藝術這個藝術銀行的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
2448.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
2450.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
的這個相關的這個人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
2450.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
2451.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
2451.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
2452.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
2452.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2455.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
能不能說明一下客戶減少的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2455.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2456.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
那另外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2456.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2457.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
本席也收集了國外的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2457.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
好像英國的Government Art Collection |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2460.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
除了將收藏展示於政府的建築外 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2463.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2466.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
像我們的立法院的會議場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2470.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
他還會非常主動的將藝術品送到駐外使館 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2470.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2472.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
等等的場域展示 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2472.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
那這是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2473.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2475.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
那去提升我國藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2475.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2478.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
的國際知名度的一個非常好的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2479.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2480.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
那在此呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2480.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2482.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
也希望同步的提出給藝術銀行 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2483.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2484.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
作為相關的參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2484.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
或許我們已經在做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2486.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2487.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
或許做的還可以再更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2487.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2491.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
那也希望可以比照辦理去增加我們新興藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2491.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2491.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2491.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2493.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
或者是比較成熟的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2493.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2496.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
一起來去增加產品曝光的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2497.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2498.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
所以那既然我們預算已經編了 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2499.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2500.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
有一個這麼好的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2500.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2501.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
也運行了多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2502.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2504.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
但是如果這個相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2505.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
這個人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2506.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2507.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
租賃的客戶有下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2508.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2509.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
什麼樣的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2509.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2510.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
是租賃客戶下降了 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2511.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2512.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
但是租賃的作品增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2513.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2514.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
那相關的這個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2515.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2517.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
能不能請就待會稍微說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2518.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2518.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
那不過 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2518.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2519.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
整體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2519.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2520.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
預算的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2520.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2523.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
基於支持本土新興藝術的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2526.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
那本席同意此案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2526.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2528.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
那也請文化部於三個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2528.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2529.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
提供書面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2529.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
待會能夠簡要口頭說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2531.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2532.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
也許可以補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2532.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2533.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
但如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2533.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2535.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
進一步有些相關的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2535.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2537.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
還需要進一步的來了解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2537.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2539.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
請三個月內來提供書面的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
2539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2541.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
讓我們來一起追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
2541.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
後續辦理的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2542.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2543.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
2544.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
好 請主管集團回復 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
2549.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2551 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
謝謝各位委員剛才講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
2551 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2551.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
2551.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2553.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
我們對於那個視覺藝術 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2553.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2555.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
這一項是我們最重要的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2556 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2558.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
一個幫助這個年輕藝術家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2558.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2559.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
這個一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2559.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2560.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2560.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2562.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
我們會繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
2565.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2567.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
部發是補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
2567.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2567.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
2567.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2568.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
謝謝委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
2568.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2569.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
的 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
2569.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2571.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
關心藝術銀行的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
2571.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2573.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
那藝術銀行從102年 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2575.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2577.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
他購入的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2577.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2578.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2578.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2580.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
人次已經到達2000的人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2580.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2583.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那他累計作品流動量 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2583.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2586.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
也已經到達11367件次 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2587.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2588.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
那雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2588.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2590.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
可能客戶有逐年減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2590.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2593.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
但是他的出租的件數是逐年在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2593.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2597.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
他一直到114年的租金收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2597.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2598.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
已經超過370萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2599.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2599.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
那今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2599.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2601.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
他比110年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2601.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
他已經成長將近49.85% |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2605.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
的這個成長率 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2606.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2608.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
那到今年為 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2608.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2610.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
今年15年到5月為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2610.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
他的作品流通數 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2612.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2615.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
也已經到達679件次 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2615.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2617.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
那收入已經超過300萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2617.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2618.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
所以他是逐年在 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2618.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
逐步的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2619.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2622.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
那他現在除了租貸之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2622.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2624.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
他也拓展很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
2624.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2625.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
跟企業的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2625.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2626.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
像台積電 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2626.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2628.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
像台糖 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
2628.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2631.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
像他跟鳥巫書店合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2631.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2635.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
辦這個藝術形式耀眼的概念展 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
2635.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2638.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
然後也跟文資局合作辦展覽 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2638.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2640.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
那現在也跟高美館合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2640.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2643.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
辦他們的庫房的典藏展 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2643.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2644.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
2644.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2646.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
另外今年也在台中 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2646.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2648.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
參與台中藝博會的展出 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2648.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2650.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
那在藝博會上的反應也非常的好 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2651.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2652.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
所以謝謝委員的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2652.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2654.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
我們會在三個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
2654.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2655.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
再補充資料給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2655.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2656.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2657.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2659.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
其實我補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2660.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2661.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2661.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2662.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
我稍微簡要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2662.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2664.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
謝謝文化部相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2664.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2666.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
這個同仁官員的一些回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2666.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2667.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2667.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2669.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
相關資料我們三個月內提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2669.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2672.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
那剛剛你有提到一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2672.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2673.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
這個補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2673.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2678.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
應該說購入的作品的作者的人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2678.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2679.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
是2000人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2679.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2682.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
那這個待之後稍微補充數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2682.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2683.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
過來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2683.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2685.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
希望不要只是人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2685.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2687.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
因為人次應該意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2687.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2688.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
同一個人買了10件 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2688.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2690.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
那就是10人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2690.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2692.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
那這個這樣子我們會看不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2692.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2695.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
或許這個購入有過度集中 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2695.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2697.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
或者是希望能夠再分散的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2697.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
那當然我想在這個購入的策略上 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2699.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2701.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
我們也尊重專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2701.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2702.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
不過我想相關的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2702.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2705.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
我們也希望這個有比較完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2705.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
因為如果都是以件次以人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2710.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
我們可能會沒有辦法評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2710.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2713 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
因為我想這個藝術銀行有其中一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2713 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2715.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
應該要更加廣泛平均的 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2715.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2717.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
讓每一個更多的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2717.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2719.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
有更多這個均衡的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2719.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
讓各種不同類型的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2721.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2722.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
都有發展的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2722.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2724.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
這個我們也一起來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2724.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2725.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
謝謝謝謝回覆謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2728.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2729.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2730.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2732.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
那第二案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2732.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2734.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
我們其他的就 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2735.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2736.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
處理稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2736.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
稅入的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2738.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
我們預算招列 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2740.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
稅入處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2741.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2743.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
繼續處理稅出的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2743.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
處理時以幕或結為單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2747.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
依序由各提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2747.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
先就提案的內容進行說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2749.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2750.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
再由機關代表與答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
2750.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2753.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
然後再以幕或結做成決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2753.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2754.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
現在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2754.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2756.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
稅出部分第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2756.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2758.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
文化部通案部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2758.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
提案案號第四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2760.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2764.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2765.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
請提案委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2770.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2771.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2771.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2773.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
那委員不在的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2775.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2778.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
請問是新衛生隊是第幾款嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2778.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2779.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
第四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2779.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2780.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
第四案OK |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2782.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2783.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2783.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2784.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
如果委員不在的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2784.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2786.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
那我們就預算招列 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2788.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2789.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
我們繼續往下進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2791.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2792.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
接著 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2792.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2794.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
我們處理第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2794.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2795.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
文化部通案部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2795.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2797.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
派員出國計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2797.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2798.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
提案案號第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2805.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2806.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
蔡村總委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2806.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
請問一下今天是 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
只要是第一項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2810.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
我們就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2810.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2811.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
舉手來發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2811.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2812.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2812.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2816.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
正常我們是四到二十 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2816.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2817.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
但是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2817.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2819.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
計畫別不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2819.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2820.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
所以議事單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2820.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2823.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
他們有稍微先區隔 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2823.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2823.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2823.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2824.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
那所以現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2824.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2825.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
討論第二案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2825.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2826.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
第二案是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2826.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2827.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2827.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2828.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2828.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2829.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2829.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2830.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
我知道委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2830.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2831.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
待會就是第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2831.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2833.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
但我要再講一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2833.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2834.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
我們第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2834.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2835.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
原本是第一項全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2835.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2836.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
四到 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2836.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2839.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
四到十六案要一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2839.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2841.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
但是因為他的計畫別不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2841.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2842.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
所以我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2842.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2843.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
教文委員會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2843.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2845.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
我們的議事人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2845.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2846.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
他就是有做區隔 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2846.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2848.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
請大家稍微體諒一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2848.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2849.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
待會就會整體討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2849.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2850.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2850.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2851.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2852.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
我們再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2852.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2854.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
接著派人出國計畫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2854.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2855.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
是第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2855.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2857.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
蔡尊仲委員有要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2857.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2857.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2857.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2860.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2860.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2860.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2862.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
我針對這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2862.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
提出一個看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
2864.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2865.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2865.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2867.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
出國的一個經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2867.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2868.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
2870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2871.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
也是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2871.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
但是應該要有明確的一個目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2873.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
跟成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2875.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2875.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2875.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
尤其 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2875.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
我本人更支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2877.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
這個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2881.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
所以國際交流展會 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2881.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
合作計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2882.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
還有文化的輸出 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2884.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2885.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
我 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2885.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2887.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
個人是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2887.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2888.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2888.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2889.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2890.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2892.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
文化部能夠提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2892.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
出國的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2894.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
還有成果的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2894.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2896.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
應用的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2896.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
那這個本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2897.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2898.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
我就改為 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2898.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2899.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
出界異 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2901.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2902.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
改為出界異 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2902.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2903.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
順便 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2903.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2904.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2904.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
是不是請我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2906.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
主管機關回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2907.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2909.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
也請主管機關回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2909.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2910.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
你們的出國計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2910.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2911.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
大概是去哪一些國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2911.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2911.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
讓我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2916.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2917.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2917.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
那就是出國旅費是用於 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
像是 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2921.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
語訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2921.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2923.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
然後我們國家漫畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2923.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2924.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
籌備出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2924.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2928.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
還有像去法國比利時的漫畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2928.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2929.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
漫畫節 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2929.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2930.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
來做考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2930.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2931.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
還有我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2931.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2932.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2932.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2935.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
國家的鐵道博物館去京都等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2935.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2936.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
這些地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2936.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2937.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
那這些出國的旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2937.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2940.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
實際上的運用是針對業務需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2940.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2940.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2940.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2941.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
他的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2941.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2942.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
他派員的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2942.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2944.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
跟他的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2944.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2945.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
都會公布在 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2945.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2946.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
文化部的官網上 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2946.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2948.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
給公眾來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2948.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2950.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
這個監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2951.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2951.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2953.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2953.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2954.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2956.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
陳柔委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2956.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2957.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
他有給你答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2957.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2958.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
有討論過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2958.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2959.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
好 了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2959.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2961.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
再給我們書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2961.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2963.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
書面資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2963.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2964.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
有去中國大陸嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2966.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
可以去中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2968.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2969.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
但是這是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2969.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2970.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
國際的旅費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2970.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
還在審查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2973.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
那委員也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2973.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2975.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
像羅委員也有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2975.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2976.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
所以有去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2976.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2977.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
只是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2977.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2979.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
他們如果要去我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2979.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
譬如說去香港 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2981.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
去年要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2981.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2983.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
他們是不給我們簽證 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2983.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2985.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
因案而異 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2985.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2985.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2985.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2986.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
有的可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2986.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2987.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
有的不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2987.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2987.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
好 OK |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2987.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2990.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
那陳柔委員改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2990.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2991.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
第五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2991.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2992.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
那預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2992.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
接著處理第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2994.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2996.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
文化部通案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2996.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2996.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
通案 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2996.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2998.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
那媒體政策及業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2998.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2999.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
提案的案號 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2999.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
3001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
請大家稍微聽一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
3001.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
3002.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
是提案案號 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
3002.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
3005.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
六案到第十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
3005.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
3007.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
六案到第十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
3007.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
3009.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
我們請翁曉玲委員先發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
3009.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
3009.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
3009.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
3010.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
好 那麼這次針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
3010.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
3012.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
文化部的煤宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
3012.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
3013.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
那本來要強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
3013.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
3015.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
就是114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
3015.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
3017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
文化部的煤宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
3017.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
3018.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
是零元 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
3018.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
3019.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
那麼但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
3019.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
3020.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
我們看到其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
3020.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
3021.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
即便它是零元 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
3021.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
3022.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
3022.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
3023.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
事實上文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
3023.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
3024.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
3024.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
3025.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
整個的 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
3025.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
3027.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
這個煤宣的宣傳上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
3027.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
3028.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
3029.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
3030.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
有什麼打折扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
3030.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
3032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
或者是有什麼做不好的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
3033.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
3035.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
那麼他們透過新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
3035.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
3036.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
在他們給我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
3036.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
3038.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
說明裡面有講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
3038.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
3039.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
就是文化部在煤宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
3039.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
3040.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
全部刪除之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
3040.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
3041.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
他們就調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
3041.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
3043.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
他們的煤宣的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
3043.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
3045.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
透過新聞稿的發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
3045.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
3047.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
社群媒體間的口碑發酵 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
3047.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
3048.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
以及和 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
3048.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
3049.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
以及與海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
3049.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
3051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
合作單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
3051.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
3052.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
都有宣傳通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
3052.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
3055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
在海外強化活動的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
3055.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
3056.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
成果斐然 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
3056.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
3057.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
有目共睹 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
3057.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
3057.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
3057.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
3059.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
基於這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
3059.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
3059.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
3059.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
3061.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
文化部在沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
3061.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
3062.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
預算的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
3062.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
3064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
都可以做得這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
3064.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
3065.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
那麼又何必 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
3065.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
3066.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
今年在編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
3066.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
3069.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
高達4738萬的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
3069.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
3070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
所以本行認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
3070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
3071.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
這個是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
3071.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
3073.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
非必要的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
3073.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
3076.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
更何況現在我們的政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
3076.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
3077.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
3077.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3078.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
大幅的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3078.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3080.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
那麼我們已經舉債 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3080.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3082.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
4000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3082.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3084.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
所以在這樣的一個情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3084.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3085.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
煤宣費我再強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3085.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3087.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
它是個非必要支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3087.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3088.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
更何況憑著 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3088.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3089.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
我這個文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3089.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3091.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
這個李部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3091.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3093.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
他的這個自己的人脈 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3093.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3095.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
然後他自己的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3095.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3096.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
嗯 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3096.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3097.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3097.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3098.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
這個說明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3098.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3099.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
各方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3099.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3100.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
他本身他就是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3100.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3101.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
最好的新聞媒介 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3101.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3102.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3102.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
不需要再編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3103.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3104.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
任何的煤宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3104.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3105.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
好以上說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3111.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3112.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3113.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
還有沒有委員要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3113.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3114.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
不然我們就順著過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3116.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
對我剛好像忘記補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3117.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3120.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
我是全數刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3120.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3120.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3120.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3123.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
4738萬全數刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3123.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3124.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
好請提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3124.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3126.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
都在現場不要離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3126.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3128.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
在創新委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3129.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3129.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3130.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3132.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
針對這個煤宣費呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3132.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
我覺得煤宣費呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3133.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3135.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
不同於一般的一個補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3135.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3137.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
補助或公共服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3137.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
那可能呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3139.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
會涉及到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3139.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3140.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
政策的一個宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3140.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3141.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
還有活動的推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3141.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3142.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
媒體的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3142.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
色情的一個投放 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3144.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
還有內容的製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3146.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
專題報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3146.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
還有形象的一個包裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
如果沒有事前的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3150.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
清楚的揭露政策的一個目的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3152.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3153.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
採購方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3153.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
還有投放的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3155.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3156.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3156.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3156.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
受眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3156.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3157.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
還有績效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3157.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3158.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3158.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3159.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
驗收的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3159.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3160.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
例驗啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3160.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3163.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
我們立法院是很難以判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3163.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3164.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
這個支出呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3164.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3164.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
是否是 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3164.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3165.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3165.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3166.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3166.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3168.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
這個是不是有檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3168.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
而且有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3169.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3169.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
我覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3170.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3170.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
文化部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3170.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3173.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
作為一個文化政策的一個主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3173.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
更應該以高標準的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3175.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3177.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
落實來標示揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3177.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3179.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
那行政要中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3179.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3181.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
績效要能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3181.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3182.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
經得起檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3182.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3184.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
這是我的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3184.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3185.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
所以我維持呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3185.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3187.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
那個凍結一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3190.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3190.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3192.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
下一位01級委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3199.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
謝主席喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3200.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3201.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3201.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3203.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
由於歐小林委員這個提案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3204.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3206.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
然後我們本委 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3206.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3206.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3210.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
羅廷瑋委員跟羅志強委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3210.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3211.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
這個幫忙提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3212.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3216.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
我覺得這好像就是在跟台灣文化宣戰耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3216.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3217.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
這個惡劣到我都 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3217.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
搞不清楚說你們到底是哪一國的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3220.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3222.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
提案說要 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3222.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3223.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3224.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3225.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3225.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3226.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
梅宣會 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3226.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3228.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
梅宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3228.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3229.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
這個理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3229.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3230.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
我看這個提案理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3230.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3233.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
實在是很傲慢又愚蠢耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3236.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3238.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3238.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3240.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
歐委員有說喔說反正 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3240.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3241.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
去 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3243.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3244.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
梅宣會全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3244.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3245.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
之前全部被刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3245.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3246.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3246.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3249.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
現在沒有預算沒什麼大不了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3249.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3252.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
我覺得那這樣子就等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3252.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3255.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
壞到根本不願意讓台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3255.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
被世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3257.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
看見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3258.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3262.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
去年在沒有這個梅宣費的狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3262.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3264.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
文化部大阪世界博覽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3264.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3267.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
必須停止所有的宣傳耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3267.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3269.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
包括文化幣的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3269.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3271.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
黃牛防治的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3271.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
大家不是最 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3272.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3273.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
最在意嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3273.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
這個這個黃牛票啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3275.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3276.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
黃牛怎麼樣防弊嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3276.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3278.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
這樣的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3278.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3281.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
搶救寒冬的閱讀推廣的行銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3281.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
很多的基本的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3283.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3284.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
通通都不能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3284.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3287.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
是全國公民看不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3287.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
發起募款 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
才協助文化部把相關的工作繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3292.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3293.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3293.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3294.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
所以怎麼會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3294.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3296.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
什麼沒有影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3296.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
這個我完全不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3298.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3301.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
那文化需要每天細心的灌溉 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3301.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3304.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
那台灣今天的文化成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3304.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3304.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3304.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
3307.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
那麼多年累積的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
3307.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
3310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
文化是一天可以一觸可及的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
3310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
3312.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
那這些成果不進則退 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
3312.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
3315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
這些機會稍縱即逝 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
3315.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
3318.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
我們今天的作為是相關於決定十年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
3318.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
3322.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
世界看到台灣文化長什麼樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
3322.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
3323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
所以我拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
3323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
3325.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
國民黨高抬貴手 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
3326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
3329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
表現像是台灣的立委一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
3329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
3332.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
不要像是境外勢力來惡搞台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
3332.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
3332.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
3333.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
3334.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
羅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
3336.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
3337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
請問羅總委 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
3337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
3338.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
可以發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
3338.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
3339.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
是我發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
3340.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
3341.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
趙孫勳不是我嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
3341.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
3342.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
3342.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
3343.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
我剛舉手了 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
3343.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
3345.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
你剛不是說我發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
3345.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
3345.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
3345.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
3346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
3346.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
3347.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
3347.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
3349.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
等一下會再讓你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
3351.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
3352.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
好 那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
3352.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
3353.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
我先講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
3353.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
3354.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
等一下 等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
3354.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
3356.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
一警委員有點名的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
3356.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
3358.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
待會就在這邊宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
3358.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
3361.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
有點名我先宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
3361.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
3363.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
我沒有說我要做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
3363.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
3363.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
3366.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
3368.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
那可以我發言了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
3368.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
3370.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
現在宣告有點名的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
3370.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
3372.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
其他委員就可以打破順序 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
3374.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
3375.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
就可以重新再來回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
3375.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
3376.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
3376.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
3377.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
因為你點名他 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
3377.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
3378.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
你要讓他回覆啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
3378.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
3379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
這個就是他的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
3379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
3380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
我認證這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
3380.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
3381.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
請尊重主席啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
3381.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
3382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
我說現在宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
3382.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
3383.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
所以待會開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
3384.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
3386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
那可以先讓我發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
3386.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
3386.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
當然可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
3386.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
3387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
但是我要宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
3387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
3388.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
等我宣告完畢嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
3388.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
3389.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
好 我等你等你 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
3390.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
3392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
那你就不要點名嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
3392.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
3393.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
你點名人家當然要回覆一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
3393.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
3394.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
民主討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
3395.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
3396.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
國務卿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
3398.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
3399.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
我想這個文創產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
3399.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
3401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
或者是我們的國片 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
3401.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
3403.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
還有很多的獨立樂團 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
3403.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
3408.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
那影視是極度高度依賴宣傳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
3408.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
3411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
那我舉個例子來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
3411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
3413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
像這樣子一個荒謬的一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
3413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
3416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
等於是文化殺手的一種提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
3416.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
3418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
這要馬而豪又不給馬吃草 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
3418.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
3419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
我舉例 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
3419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
3421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
這很像是你開了一間店 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
3421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
3423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
在偏遠的地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
3423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
3426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
然後你需要發傳單 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
3426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
3427.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
你需要做廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
3427.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
3429.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
你可能要去街訪領區 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
3429.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
3430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
去跟人家拜託說 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
3430.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
3432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
我這邊開了一家店 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
3432.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
3433.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
歡迎大家來 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
3433.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
3434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
然後現在是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
3434.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
你這些都不用做 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
3436.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
3437.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
你也不用發傳單 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
3437.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
3438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
你也不用打廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
3438.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
3440.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
你也不用去跟街訪領區講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
3440.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
3441.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
你開了一家店 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
3441.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
3442.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
你要打折什麼都不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
3442.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3444.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
反正你店還活著啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
3444.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
3445.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
你店還開著啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
3445.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
3447.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
這是同樣的一種道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
3447.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
3449.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
我再舉另外一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
3449.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
3450.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
這有沒有點像說 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
3450.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
3452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
你手機看起來還好好的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
3452.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
3454.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
問題是我手機沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
3454.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
3456.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
辦法對外連接啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
3456.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
3458.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
我手機只有最基本的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
3458.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
3460.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
我連Wi-Fi的功能可能都壞掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
3460.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
3462.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
都沒有辦法做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
3462.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
3463.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
他說不會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
3463.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
3464.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
你手機還好的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
3464.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
3465.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
看起來還好的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
3465.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
3466.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
不用嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
3466.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
3468.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
不用再給你錢再去換手機嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
3468.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
3471.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
這這麼荒謬的一個提案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
3471.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
3473.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
我們一直不斷的在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
3473.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
3475.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
我們一直不斷的在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
3475.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
3478.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
台灣的影視產業是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
3478.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
3480.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
辛辛苦苦走到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
3480.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
3482.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
我每一次在我的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
3482.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
3484.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
我都會在包場電影請大家走進戲院 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
3484.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
3486.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
去支持我們的國片 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
3486.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
3489.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
需要的就是這些宣傳嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
3489.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
3491.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
我們要讓台灣的文化走出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
3491.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
3493.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
也是需要宣傳嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
3493.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
3495.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
現在全部大筆一刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
3496.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3498.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
變成文化殺手了耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
3498.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
3500.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
那很簡單嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
3500.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
3501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
我再舉一個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
3501.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
3503.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
立委在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
3503.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
3504.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
好好的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
3504.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
3505.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
活得好好的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
3506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3507.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
乾脆都不要助理好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3507.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3509.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
反正你一個人也能活嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3510.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3511.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
是這種道理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3512.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3514.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
不要這麼誇張啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3514.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3516.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
大家都坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3516.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3518.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
好好的在審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3518.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3519.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
大家都坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3519.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3521.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
希望台灣的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3521.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3523.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
能夠往外延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3524.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3529.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
我們需要的就是這些業務的宣導費 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3532.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
我不想點名誰啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3532.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3535.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
但我真的要表達嚴重的抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3535.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3537.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
我真的不知道全部砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3537.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3539.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
什麼叫做零元也能活 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3541.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3543.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
那你把助理都砍掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3543.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3545.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
你一個人也能好好的活在立法院啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3545.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3546.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
3546.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3547.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
這什麼道理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3551.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3552.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
我是周美 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3555.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3557.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
好 科政委員要回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3561.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3564.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
好 那麼剛剛你聽了前面兩位委員的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3564.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3565.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
我要講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3565.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3568.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
我們台灣的文化沒有被世界看見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3568.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3571.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
去年的是大阪的博覽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3571.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3573.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
我們台灣的同胞去了多少人 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3573.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3576.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
我們沒有被人家看見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3576.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3580.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
這跟業務宣傳的這個沒宣費有什麼正相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3580.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3581.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
沒有正相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3581.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3584.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
去年文化部一毛錢的沒宣費沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3584.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3586.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
照樣做得很好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3586.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3588.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
零元部長說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3588.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3592.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
有被沒有被宣傳出去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3592.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3594.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
媒體沒有報導嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3595.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3598.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
所以不要說什麼我們沒有被世界看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3598.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3600.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
台灣文化沒有被世界看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3600.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3601.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
那根本就扯謊 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3603.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
更何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3603.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3605.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3610.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
每年編了兩三百億的這個幾百數百億的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3610.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3614.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
各個業務單位他們本身就可以去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
業務宣導就是透過各方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
開記者會發新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
然後透過這種口碑的這個行銷都可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3624.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3626.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
為什麼一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3626.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3629.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
花錢去買廣告拍廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3629.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3632.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
而且還把這個沒宣費給特定的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3636.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3638.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
我認為這個是沒有必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3639.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3642.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
我今天在提案單裡面寫的清清楚楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3642.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3646.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
現在政府舉債四千多億是誰造成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3646.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3648.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
民進黨政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3648.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3650.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
左一個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3650.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3651.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
右一個特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3652.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3654.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
這些都不是老百姓的錢嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3655.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3658.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
政府公帑就應該要用在刀口上 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3659.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
我們不是文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
我們是文化保護者 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3666.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
我們希望能夠把這些錢真的用在 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3666.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
給更多的文化事業的推廣上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3671.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
給更多的文化團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3673.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
而不是讓文化部自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3675.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3677.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
不好好去做自己的政策宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3677.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3679.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
然後把這些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3679.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3681.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
就是圖利給特定的電視台 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3681.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
特定的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3683.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3684.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3684.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3686.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
所以以去年的例子來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3686.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3688.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
文化部沒有沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3688.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
照樣可以做業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3691.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
文化傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3693.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
因此今年的這筆錢我堅持一定要全刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3699.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
沒有必要浪費這個沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3704.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3706.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
好來,羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3707.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3709.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
你要講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3709.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3711.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
喔哈 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3710.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3712.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3713.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3717.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
其實我覺得文化部確實還蠻需要宣傳經費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3717.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3719.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
應該是非常需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3719.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
宣傳什麼性侵蟒小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3723.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
應該是蠻需要宣傳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3723.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3725.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
那宣傳怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3725.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3727.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
在我們所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3727.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3731.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
全國的影視創作團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3731.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3733.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
都這麼缺公帑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3733.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3735.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
缺國家資源的依註的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3735.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3737.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
光一部功夫 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3737.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3740.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
就可以補助1億5千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3740.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3742.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
所以這麼好的一個單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3742.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3744.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
錢這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3744.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3746.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
難怪我今天看到汪小林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3746.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3748.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
他的提案要全部刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3748.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3750.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
關鍵在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3750.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3753.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
不用隨便扣人家什麼愚蠢的帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3753.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3756.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
也不要扣人家什麼境外勢力的帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3756.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3758.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
我覺得文化部到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3758.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3761.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
針對我們這一個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3761.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3763.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
我們提出來很多的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3763.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3765.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
文化部到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3765.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3767.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
他有沒有著眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3767.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3769.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
自己本業的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3769.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3772.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
公平的來使用政府的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3772.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3775.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
汪小林委員提的一樣是個道理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3775.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3777.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
一樣是個道理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3778.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3780.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
即便說文宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3780.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3782.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
今天在汪小林的提案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3782.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3784.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
把它全刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3784.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3786.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
但是汪小林委員也指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3786.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3788.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
看起來文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3788.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3790.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
也沒有妨礙文化部今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3790.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3792.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
1億5千萬的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3792.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3794.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
也沒有妨礙文化部今天大力的宣揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
3794.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3796.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
鼓勵大家性侵毛小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
3796.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
3798.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
完全沒影響嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3798.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3800.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
業績這麼好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
3800.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3802.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
所以呢今天汪小林提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3802.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3804.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
他當然有他的道理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
3804.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3806.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
那我這邊也講我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3806.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3808.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
我的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3810.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
這個按照立法院預算中心的指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
3810.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3812.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
115年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
3812.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3815.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
沒宣費當中全球佈局策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3815.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3818.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
推展計畫國際跟兩岸區域佈局計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
3818.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3820.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
工作內容重疊 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3820.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3822.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
那加上5年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3822.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3825.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
文化部的沒宣費一直在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3825.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3830.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
111年度是36039000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3830.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3832.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
那到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
3832.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
3834.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
今年提出來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3834.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3836.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
4378萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3836.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3838.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
那考量文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3838.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3840.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].text |
這個過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].start |
3840.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3842.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].text |
所有的一些宣傳的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3842.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3844.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].text |
那我認為說依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3844.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3846.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
行政院主計處的 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3846.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3848.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
預算編制作業經濟措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3848.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3850.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
應該要從成本效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3850.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3852.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
的觀點全盤思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3852.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3854.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].text |
來檢討它的必要性跟合理性 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].start |
3854.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3856.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].text |
來檢討它的必要性跟合理性 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3856.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3858.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
減少不經濟的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3858.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3860.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
各個國家現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3860.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3862.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
財政上也應該要相當的節約 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3862.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3864.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
所以依節約原則我的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3864.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3866.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
減略2500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3866.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3868.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].text |
我最後還是要回頭一句話啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].start |
3870.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3872.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
這預算討論大家就各憑己見 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3872.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3874.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
去提出意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3874.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3876.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
不會是每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3876.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3878.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
不會哪一個意見是完全沒有它的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3878.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3880.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
那在這邊相互尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3880.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3882.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
不要動不動就扣人家什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3882.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3884.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
愚蠢境外勢力的帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3884.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3886.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
好好的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3886.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3888.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
這樣子才是預算的專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3888.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3890.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3889.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3891.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
柯政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3912.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3914.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
目前還沒有動 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3914.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3916.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
目前還沒有去動 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3918.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
對因為已經到下半年度了 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3920.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
所以目前是沒有動 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3922.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
因為我那時候所提出來有 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3924.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
有簡略但是文化部有來跟我討 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3926.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
有來跟我解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3928.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3930.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
像是你們剛剛結束了這些金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3930.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3932.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
我還是要說金曲獎這次辦得還蠻成功的 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3932.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3934.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
還有金鐘獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3934.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3936.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
的實際的一個支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3936.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3938.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
你們都把它當作是這個沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3938.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3940.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
你們都把它當作是沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3940.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3942.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
在這個裡面來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3942.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3944.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
所以如果說我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3944.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3946.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
真的覺得我們就是來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3946.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3948.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
我覺得大家捍衛自己的預算的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3948.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3950.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
應該列入清單像已經金曲獎 |
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3950.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3952.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
金鐘獎這個金馬獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3952.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3954.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
這三金我想在場的委員 |
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3954.57 |
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3956.57 |
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在這一塊當中其實是全力 |
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3956.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3958.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
來支持的那如果這些都是放 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3958.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3960.57 |
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在你們今天這一欄當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3960.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3962.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
的一些的宣傳的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3962.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3964.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
你們該把它列個清單出來這才是你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3964.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3966.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
自己你哈啵啦啦放在這邊然後再加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3966.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3968.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
其實委員我覺得大家是可以同理 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3968.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
因為委員有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3970.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3972.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
在過去當中真的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3972.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3974.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
發生這麼多一些政治事件當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3974.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3976.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
那有很多的團體裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3976.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3978.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
所用的經費是來自於文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3978.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3980.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
而且文化部裡面大家認為是不符合 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3980.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3982.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
我們所認知的一些的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3982.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3984.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
跟宣傳所以以至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3984.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3986.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
這些的情緒都會在這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3986.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3988.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
這個部分裡面來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3988.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3990.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
書發來做一個處理 |
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3992.57 |
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所以我認為你們如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3992.57 |
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3994.57 |
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是在這個我剛所重視的 |
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3994.57 |
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3996.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
這個金曲金鐘這個部分也 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3996.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3998.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
在宣傳裡面也在你們這個部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3998.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
4000.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
列出清單哪些是實際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
4000.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
4002.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
業務支出然後你們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
4002.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
4004.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
這個預算中心認為跟相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
4004.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
4006.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
過去幾年來中增加這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
4006.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
4008.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
我覺得應該有一個很完整的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
4008.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
4010.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
那這個說明完之後然後大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
4010.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
4012.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
來看看這個預算到底怎麼處理我覺得這 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
4012.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
4014.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
才是一個比較合理的討論啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
4017.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
4018.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
4019.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
4019.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
五分一二元 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
4023.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
4025.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
我這邊要呼籲客製衛員 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
4025.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
4027.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
因為這個文化部的美宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
4027.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
4029.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
之前我有跟你們關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
4029.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
4031.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
因為去年被刪到零之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
4031.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
4033.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
就是我很關注一個就是我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
4033.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
4035.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
這個書展書展的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
4035.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
4037.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
馬上就收到影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
4037.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
4039.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
所以那時候必須要有主辦單位他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
4039.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
4041.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
要來自籌另外去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
4041.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
4043.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
在大阪的這個世博 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
4043.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
4045.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
我們有一個文化台灣的這個展演 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
4045.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
4047.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
那當時因為美宣費被刪到 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
4047.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
4049.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
零同樣的是沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
4049.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
4051.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
在國外宣傳所以後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
4051.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
4053.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
也是由民間的藝文團體來發起 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
4053.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
4055.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
這個募資才有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
4055.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
4057.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
去支應然後另外因為我 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
4057.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
4059.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
一直很關切也希望文化部一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
4059.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
4061.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
去加強的就是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
4061.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
4063.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
打擊黃牛票這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
4063.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
4065.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
行為的宣導那過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
4065.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
4067.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
這個費用也是放在美宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
4067.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
4069.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
費裡面那去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
4069.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
4071.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
以去年來講我就覺得你們的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
4071.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
4073.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
非常的不足這個部分我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
4073.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
4075.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
都要去加強那還有另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
4075.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
4077.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
一個案件是我很關切是台北 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
4077.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
4079.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
時裝週這個是文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
4079.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
4081.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
部跟台北市文化局一起來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
4081.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
4083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
舉辦的那過去沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
4083.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
4085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
也要來宣傳台北時裝 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
4085.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
4087.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
週啊我覺得台北時裝週 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
4087.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4089.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
我們這幾年的宣傳明顯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4089.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4091.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
我覺得還不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4091.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4093.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
多很多台北的年輕人是關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4093.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
時尚卻不知道這個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4095.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4097.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
所以呢我在今天的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4097.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4099.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
說明裡面我覺得也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4099.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4101.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
不夠清楚我希望文化部要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4101.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4103.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
我們沒宣費實際在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4103.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4105.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
的這個項目一一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4105.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4107.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
把它羅列出來那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4107.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4109.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
對預算的監督這當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4109.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4111.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
立委的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4114.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
可以來去刪減或者是凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4114.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4116.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
可是如果當刪除像沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4116.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
宣費這一筆要把它刪除到 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4120.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
零我覺得有點不合 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4120.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4122.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
比例啦我還是希望說我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4122.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
具體的來討論就是到底說 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4124.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
針對哪一個宣傳的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4126.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
我們是認為這個不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4128.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
第一個你認為他不需要去宣傳嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4130.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
或第二個覺得不需要花 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4132.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4134.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
那麼多的經費宣傳那這可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4134.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4136.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
討論可是如果說我們現在都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4136.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4138.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
針對項目而是用通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4138.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
刪的方式通刪的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4140.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4142.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
我會覺得民眾也會不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4142.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4144.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
說到底立法院在審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4144.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
的過程是基於什麼樣的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4146.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
要把文化部的沒宣費刪除到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4148.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
所以在這一點我還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4150.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4152.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
在委員會可以充分的來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4152.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4154.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
那也請文化部要可能提出具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4154.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4156.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
的說明因為我個人是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4156.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4158.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
我剛剛講了這些幾個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4158.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
業務的宣傳是很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4160.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4162.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
因為主要是我們不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4162.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4164.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
只要辦活動而已我們要面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4164.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
台灣的群眾我們也要面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4166.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4168.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
國際的市場這些都需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4168.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4170.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
靠宣傳讓更多人知道這些資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4170.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4172.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
從而更加的認識台灣的文化 |
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這個要拜託文化部 |
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能夠再具體的把每一個項目說明清楚 |
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4185.39 |
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待會麻煩文化部具體的說明 |
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包括柯志恩委員也有提到 |
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4189.39 |
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金曲相關的獎 |
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4191.39 |
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我們都已經辦完活動了 |
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4191.39 |
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4193.39 |
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可是剛剛你們又說沒宣費 |
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沒有做任何的使用 |
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金曲獎也都辦完了 |
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4199.39 |
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4201.39 |
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所以到底是怎麼一回事你還要不要說明清楚 |
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麻煩待會統一回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
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再來葉原子委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
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我覺得因為沒宣費這樣狂烈 |
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確實大家會不知道說到底要用在哪裡 |
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那當然文化部的業務非常多 |
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包括像柯志恩委員剛剛講金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
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還有吳佩儀委員講的 |
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有書展或是打黃牛等等 |
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那因為這也都有各自的計畫 |
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也有可能各自計畫裡面 |
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也有各自的沒宣費 |
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4229.28 |
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例如說他一大筆錢在做金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4229.28 |
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4231.28 |
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那裡面做金曲獎的計畫裡面 |
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又有一部分是要去做金曲獎的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
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同樣的比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
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4237.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
書展的相關的活動裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
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4239.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
又有沒宣費藏在書展裡面的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
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所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
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是有必要說明這一整筆沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
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4245.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
到底他的用途是在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
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4247.28 |
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不然的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
講的很籠統的話大家可能真的不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
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4251.28 |
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說這個錢有沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
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4253.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
然後第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
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4255.28 |
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我也想要進一步想要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
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4257.28 |
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因為沒宣沒宣這其實非常抽象的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
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就是買媒體嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
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4261.28 |
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那請問是買什麼媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4263.28 |
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是電視網路戶外廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4265.28 |
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還是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
然後他達到的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4267.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4269.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
他有沒有針對你每一個目標群眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4269.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4271.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
去做宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4273.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
還是說為了買而買 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4275.28 |
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那我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4275.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4277.28 |
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就是你的溝通的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4279.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
你採用的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
還有你的通路這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4281.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
可不可以也稍微進一步說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4283.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4285.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4287.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4289.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
好現在又在增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4289.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4291.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
那葉原志委員希望能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4291.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4293.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
沒宣費實際的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4293.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4295.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
有這樣子的一個發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4295.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4297.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
有哪些媒體是否可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4297.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
列出清單提供一些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4299.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4301.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
數據給在場委員說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4301.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4303.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
那如果沒有辦法說服的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4303.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4305.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
我們待會就要來處理這一項提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4305.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4307.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
再來吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4308.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4310.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4310.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4312.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
台灣的外交困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4312.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4314.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
我想大家都非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4314.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4316.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
作為國會議員我們的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4316.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4318.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
我們的理念是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4318.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4320.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
想方設法的能夠讓國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4320.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4322.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
有台灣的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4322.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4324.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
所以為什麼這一屆包括韓國瑜院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4324.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4326.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
也正率領著跨黨派的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4326.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4328.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
議員們前往美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4328.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
不管是從事政治上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4330.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4332.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
我們理念的民主的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4332.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4334.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
或者是文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4334.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4336.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
國家軟實力的推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4336.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
這就是國會的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4340.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
跨黨派都應當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4340.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
讓文化作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4342.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4344.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
最有效的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4344.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4346.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
最有效的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4346.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4348.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
來為台灣發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4348.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4350.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
所以對於文化的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4350.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4352.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
尤其是文化外交的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4352.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4354.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
預算現在在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4354.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4356.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
面臨的國際處境上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4356.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4358.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
我相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4358.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4360.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
我也認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4360.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4362.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
我也長期觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4362.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4364.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
不管哪一黨派的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4364.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4366.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
在質詢台上都要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4366.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4368.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
文化部全力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4368.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4370.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
推動文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4370.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4372.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4372.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4374.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
但是為什麼在處理預算的當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4374.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4376.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
我們的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4376.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4378.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
卻提案要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4378.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4380.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
為難文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4380.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
推動文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4382.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4384.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
甚至是自我閹割 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4384.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
要讓自己國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4386.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
透過文化力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
讓台灣的實力被國際看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4390.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4392.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
的這一個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4392.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4394.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
經費就要大筆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4394.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
來刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4396.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4398.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
在我來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4398.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4400.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
台灣現在正是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4400.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4402.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
國力強大的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4402.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4404.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
台灣成為世界的關鍵字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4404.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4406.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
文化不能缺席 |
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4406.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4408.52 |
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剛剛大家有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4408.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4410.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
的有委員在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4410.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4412.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
在質詢跟質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4412.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4414.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
文化部可以說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4414.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
但我長期的理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4418.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
煤炫費不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4418.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4420.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
只有去購買媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4420.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4422.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
廣告而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4422.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4424.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
我們對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4424.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4426.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
搭著國際的Mega Event |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4426.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4428.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
譬如巴黎奧運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4428.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4430.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
東京奧運 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4430.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4432.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
例如我們的大阪世博 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4432.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
我這個真的非常感同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4436.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
深受喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4436.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4438.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
利用Mega Event組成文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4438.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4440.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
台灣隊到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4440.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4442.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
世界發聲其實就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4442.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4444.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
2016年那一屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4444.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4446.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
的立法院我們開始落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4446.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4448.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
為文化的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4448.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4450.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
那文化的煤炫除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4450.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4452.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
對外向國際發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4452.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4454.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
也是對內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4454.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4456.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
當我們要推動文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4456.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4458.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
政策讓文化的思維深入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4458.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4460.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
每一個國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4460.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4462.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
讓文化成為大家的日常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4462.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4464.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
的時候我們需要跟國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4464.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4466.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
來宣導宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4466.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4468.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
現在文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4468.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4470.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
有什麼樣子的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4470.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4472.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
有什麼樣的文化措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4472.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4474.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
包括大家都支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4474.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4476.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4476.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
我們需要透過跟國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
來宣揚現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4482.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
國家提供的各項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4482.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4484.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
文化資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4484.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4486.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
大家趕快來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4486.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4488.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
善用所以煤炫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4488.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4490.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
不只是在國際上為台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4490.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4492.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
發聲也是對內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4492.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4494.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
深植台灣國人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4494.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4496.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
文化力的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4496.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4498.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
的管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4498.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4500.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
所以說我看到委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4500.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4502.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4502.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4504.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
粗糙的以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4504.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4506.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
政府要堆結公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4506.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4508.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
共體時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4509.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4511.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
這樣的一個理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4512.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4514.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
這樣的一個理由你可以套在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4514.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4516.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
所有的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4516.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4518.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
我看到似乎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4518.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4520.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
要提案刪減煤炫費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4520.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4522.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
不是只針對文化部啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4522.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4524.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
就是這樣子的一個非常籠統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4525.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4527.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4527.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4529.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
任何一筆珍貴的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4529.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4531.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
又如同委員在提案當中講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4531.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4533.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
這個國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4533.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4535.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
煤炫為靈源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4535.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4537.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
依舊運作順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4537.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4539.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
大家應當都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4539.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4541.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
看到了多少我們的公民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4541.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4543.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
朋友為了文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4543.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4545.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
用募資的方式用明利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4545.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4547.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4547.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4549.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
欠的內度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4549.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4551.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
國家要用的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4551.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4553.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
沒辦法因人民出力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4553.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4555.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
然後現在反過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4555.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4557.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
頭來被立法委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4557.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4559.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
你們沒有這筆錢也可以活得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4559.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4561.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
好好的也可以推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4561.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4563.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
的有成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4563.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4565.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
這些立委不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4566.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4568.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
文化人多麼努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4568.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4570.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
在奔走 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4570.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4572.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
因為國會不挺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4572.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4574.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
文化沒有預算他們只好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4574.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4576.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
站出來所以說委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4576.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4578.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
這種提案的理由非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4578.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4580.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
籠統啊我倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4580.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4582.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
要請提案的委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4582.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4584.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
您認為補助浮濫哪一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4584.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4586.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
補助浮濫您 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4586.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4588.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
認為會引起民眾的負面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4588.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4590.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
評價哪一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4590.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4592.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
有什麼樣的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4592.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4594.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
讓您提出這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4594.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4596.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
指涉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4595.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4597.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
所以不要用一個意識形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4597.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
不好意思我認為這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4599.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4601.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
提案因為在其他部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4601.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4603.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
也有這樣的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4603.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4605.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
也是同樣的意識形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4605.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4607.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
看到沒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4607.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4609.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
廢就砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4609.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4611.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
看到黑影就開情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4613.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4615.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
看到這種讓台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4615.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4617.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
可以在國際發聲的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4617.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4619.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
就要自我閹割 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4620.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4622.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
所以如果委員惡意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4622.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4624.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
把這樣子的不明就裡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4624.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4626.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
刪減預算您刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4626.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4628.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
預算的理由拿不出具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4628.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4630.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
合理的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4630.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4632.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
我認為這樣真的就只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4632.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4634.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
淪為政治的意識形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4634.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4636.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
在為難自己的國家而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4637.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4639.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
如果台灣的文化聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4639.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4641.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
沒有辦法傳到世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4642.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4644.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
全世界只剩下中國的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4646.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4648.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
尤其非常諷刺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4648.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4650.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
中國新上路的民族團結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4650.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4652.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
促進什麼法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4653.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4655.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
正是讓世界各國都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4655.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4657.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
為台灣發聲的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4657.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4659.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
都在為這種中國假文化之名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4659.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4661.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
進行政治統戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4661.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4663.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
之時的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4663.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4665.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
台灣不能沒有國際的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4665.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
就在中國把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4667.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4669.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
惡法上路的這一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4670.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4672.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
我們自己的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4672.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4674.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
在文化部門砍這樣的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4674.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4676.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
是不是去附和了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4676.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4678.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
中國用文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4679.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4681.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
的這種施壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4681.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4683.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
不容許任何文化多元思維的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4685.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4687.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
這個當下正是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4687.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
要團結各種力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4689.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4691.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
各個部門向世界發聲的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4691.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
可是非常諷刺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4693.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4695.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
在教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4695.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4697.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
我們的委員要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4697.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4699.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
自我閹割我們的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4699.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
國際的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4701.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4703.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
我也是要請在部長回應的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4703.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4705.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
我還是認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4705.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4707.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
委員要刪減預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4707.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
的理由非常的籠統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
非常的抽象 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4713.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
我們不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4713.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4715.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
容許這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4715.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4717.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
抽象的理由籠統的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4717.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
就來大筆的封殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4721.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
我們自己的文化力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4721.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4723.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
所以我是非常誠懇的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4723.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4725.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
這個當下去看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4725.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4727.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
今天國際媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4727.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4729.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
都在focus中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4729.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
用意識形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4733.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
去綁架各種文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4734.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4736.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
多元的展現 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4736.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4738.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
而台灣的文化部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4738.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4740.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
在審議文化預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4740.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4742.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
要成為中國的應聲蟲嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4742.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4744.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
要讓全世界只剩下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4744.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4746.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
中國的聲音嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4746.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4748.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
我真的不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4748.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4750.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
我真的不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4750.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4752.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4752.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4754.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4754.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4756.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
我真的不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4756.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4758.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4758.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4760.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4760.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4762.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4762.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4764.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4764.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4766.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4766.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4768.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4768.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4770.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4770.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4772.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4772.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4774.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4774.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4776.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4776.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
不應當做任何的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4782.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
我認為這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4755.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4756.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
額... |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4756.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4758.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
燕之委員剛剛舉手了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4759.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4761.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
我真的不知道為什麼啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4761.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4763.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
大家現在只是在討論文化部的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4763.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4765.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
看有沒有亂用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4765.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4767.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
看有沒有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4767.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4769.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
用到不同的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4769.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4771.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
都可以扯到勞共去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4771.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4773.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
今天在場的所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4773.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4775.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
又變中共同路人了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4775.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4777.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
整個預算扯到說什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4777.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4779.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
什麼阻擋台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4779.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4781.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
為外宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4781.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4783.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
我覺得現在大家只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4783.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4785.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
一省而已耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4784.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4786.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
我們上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4786.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4788.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
吳思耀委員不在我們委員會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4788.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4790.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
在場有很多教育文化委員會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4790.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4792.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
我們文化部預算我們也沒這樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4792.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4794.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
也是一筆一筆看嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4794.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4796.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
文化部你只要提出你有必要的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4796.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4798.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
大家後來也都是該過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4798.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4800.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
也都是過了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4800.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4802.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
我記得上一次討論什麼Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4802.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4804.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
部分藍綠的委員都覺得Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4804.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4806.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
做得很差 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4806.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4808.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
一開始都提了很多案子都要刪很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4808.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4810.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
可是後來Taiwan Plus就解釋啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4810.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4812.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
然後什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4812.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4814.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
我們後來也都給他機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4814.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4816.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
我真的很不喜歡看到這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4816.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4818.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
大家就事論事的討論預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4818.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4820.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
然後那種紅帽子就扣上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4820.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4822.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
然後讓大家不敢去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4822.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4824.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
發表我們監督的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4824.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4826.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
我真的覺得非常遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4826.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4828.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
我認為啦大家就就事論事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4828.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4830.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
因為這筆錢看起來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4830.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4832.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
比較籠統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4832.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4834.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
還有文化部的各項計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4834.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4836.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
實際上計畫裡面也包含有沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4836.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4838.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
所以就請文化部說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4838.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4840.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
這個沒宣他到底要怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4840.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4842.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
使用其實如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4842.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4844.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
他的使用大家覺得OK |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4844.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4846.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
然後有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4846.07 |
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4848.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
而且沒有亂花那就通過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4848.07 |
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4850.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
對不對那如果有亂編 |
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4850.07 |
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4852.07 |
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就刪掉啊這不就是立法委員的職責嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4852.07 |
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4854.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
所以真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4854.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4856.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
不要什麼事情都無限上綱啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4856.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4858.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
都中共同路人以前我們在討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4858.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4860.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
合管法的時候說那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4860.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4862.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
只是讓核三研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4862.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4864.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
有法規鬆綁的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4864.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4866.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
然後民進黨就罵我們是要給老共 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4866.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4868.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
公台開後門就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4868.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4870.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
我們又變中共同路人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4870.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4872.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
那經德總統最後肯定我們在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4872.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4874.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
說在野黨通過合管法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4875.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4877.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
奇怪了民進黨立委說我們是中共同路人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4877.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4879.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
賴總統都肯定我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4879.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4881.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
難道賴總統肯定中共同路人嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4881.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4883.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
所以這種意識形態可不可以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4883.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4885.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
至少在我們教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4885.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4887.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
好不好那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4887.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4889.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
至少在我們教育文化委員會好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4889.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4891.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
大家不要一直搞意識形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4891.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4893.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
我們就就事論事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4893.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4895.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
好好的審預算謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4896.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4898.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4898.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4900.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
柯正委員因為剛翁曉玲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4900.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4902.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
在你前面你是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4902.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4904.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
我希望因為這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4904.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4906.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
聽了剛剛大家很多的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4908.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4910.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
我想待會討論也不會有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4910.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4912.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
具體的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4912.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4914.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
是不是我們這個案就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4914.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4916.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
保留宋協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4916.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4918.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
因為後面還有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4918.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4920.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
文化部的預算案需要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4920.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4922.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
所以希望說能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4922.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4924.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
進一步處理謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4924.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4926.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
柯正委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4930.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4932.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
我只是呼應那個葉原志委員的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4932.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
我們既然要讓這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
趕快過去然後我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
聚焦來討論我覺得太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
委員有太多擴大性的解讀了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4940.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4942.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
好好的審一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4942.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4944.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
四三七八這個預算中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4944.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4946.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
說跟過去比較起來真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4946.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4948.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
比較多所以我們就要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4948.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4950.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
是否能夠把它條列 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4950.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4952.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
清楚我不懂為什麼要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4952.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4954.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
延伸到說又是跟中共 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4954.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4956.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
然後又是中共昨天通過什麼法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4956.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4958.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
對不起中國大陸跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4958.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
完全無關我們今天審中華民國的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
我管中國大陸做些什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4964.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
我們又剛剛沒有跟他串聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4964.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4966.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
我們又剛剛沒有任何的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4966.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4968.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
什麼事情都要扯上中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4968.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
這是審預算的一個標準嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4970.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4972.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
所以說就很清楚的告訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4972.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4974.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
我們到底這些四千三百多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4977.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4979.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
到底是做到哪一些的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4979.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4981.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
精取精忠我們所在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4981.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4983.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
這個部分納入這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4983.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
那個所謂的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4985.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
剛剛佩儀所講的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4987.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4989.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
圖書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4989.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4991.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
書展的這個部分是不是也放在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4991.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4993.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
地方你們在國外的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4993.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
你們meta event到底花了多少時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4995.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
把它條列清楚我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4997.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4999.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
就可以知道到底有沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4999.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
5001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
要來審這筆預算不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
5001.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
5003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
動不動就去講那多多我們剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
5003.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
5005.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
完全不熟剛剛擺個不熟的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
5005.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
5007.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
完全放在我們的身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
5007.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
5009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
你要我們怎麼回應這完全不是審預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
5009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
5011.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
態度我都很生氣了趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
5011.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
5013.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
來看看四千三百多萬到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
5013.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
5015.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
需不需要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
5015.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
5017.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
換我講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
5017.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
5019.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
我都沒發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
5018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
5020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
5020.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
5022.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
5024.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
5026.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
比起吳思堯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
5026.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
5028.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
5028.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
5030.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
大方向論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
5030.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
5032.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
我都還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
5032.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
5034.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
可以默默的去聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
5034.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
5036.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
聽曲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
5035.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
5037.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
但是我還是再一次懇切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
5037.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
5039.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
5038.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
5040.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
林奕景委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
5040.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
5042.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
因為多次的用點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
5042.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
5044.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
然後人身攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
5044.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
5046.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
從前陣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
5046.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
5048.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
一直叫我羅公子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
5048.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
5050.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
一直要我去讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
5050.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
5052.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
我還是在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
5052.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5054.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5054.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5056.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
畢竟我是你比較晚進的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5056.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5058.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
學弟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5058.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5060.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
我還是拜託不要用這樣子的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5060.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5062.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
林奕景委員你也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5062.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5064.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
你的軟肋我不想在委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5064.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5066.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
給你出糗 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5066.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5068.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
如果你要這樣子多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5068.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5070.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
用扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5070.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5072.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
人身攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5072.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5074.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
然後愚蠢什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5074.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5076.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
這樣子的一個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5076.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5078.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
那我想後面對於你最基本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5078.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5080.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5082.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
我也大可不必 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5082.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5086.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我想我們都是中華民國的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5087.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5089.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
那之前你也有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5089.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5091.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
兩岸人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5091.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5092.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5092.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5094.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
那你也立刻把它拖掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5094.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
有機會你可以成為台灣國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5096.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5097.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5097.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5099.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
那很難過你放棄了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5099.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5101.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
所以現在你跟我還是一樣是中華民國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5101.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5103.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5103.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5105.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5105.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5107.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
國語行委員後待會你也可以再舉手沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5107.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5109.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
你還有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5109.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5111.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
軟肋啦但是尊重一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5111.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5113.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
你要一直人身攻擊別人的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5113.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
那大家就來好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5115.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5117.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
就事認識討論那剛國語行委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5117.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5119.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
跟這一個吳思堯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5119.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5121.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
所提到的是什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5121.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5123.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
的一個負面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5123.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5125.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
宣傳是什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5125.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
的一個不好的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5127.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5129.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
我想人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5129.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5131.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
心中是有一把尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5131.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5133.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
我們當然支持金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5133.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5135.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
我們當然支持好的文化策展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5135.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5137.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5137.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5139.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
不要忘記 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5139.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5141.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
我們還是有相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5141.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5143.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
上次每次我們都在討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5144.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5146.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5146.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5148.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
我們一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5148.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5150.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
文化部到底能不能講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5150.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5152.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
現階段每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5152.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5154.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
他們的補助內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5154.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5156.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
包括上次我跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5156.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5158.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5157.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5159.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
我跟葉人之委員在講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5159.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5161.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
性情毛小孩的音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5162.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5164.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
那有提到民利在募款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5165.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5167.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
如果這些錢沒有去補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5167.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5169.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5171.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
讓我們聽到不堪入耳的音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5174.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5176.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5176.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5178.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
這些特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5178.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
給特定的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5180.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5182.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
民利會更加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5184.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5186.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
可以不用這麼的嚴謹 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5186.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5188.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
去募這麼多款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5188.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
因為真正人民的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5192.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
花在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5192.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5194.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
我們共同的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5195.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5197.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5196.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5198.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
我們一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5198.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5200.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
我們現在是監督預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5200.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5202.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
我們現在是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5202.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5204.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
預算能夠花在刀口上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5204.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5206.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
不要這個時候就拿來扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5206.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5208.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
說我們是中共同路人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5208.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5210.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
你亂花錢的時候怎麼沒有講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5210.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5212.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
因為你亂花 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5212.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5214.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
反而 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5214.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5216.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
讓其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5216.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
對我們有任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5218.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5220.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
負面的攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5221.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
國際的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5223.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5225.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
更增加了這些跨出去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5226.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5228.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
主力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5243.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5245.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
Nah |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5244.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
國際委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5248.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5250.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5250.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5252.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
因為剛剛主席有說點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5252.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5254.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
被點名了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5254.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5256.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
因為你有提到我的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5256.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5258.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
從頭到尾其實我沒有扯到所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5258.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5260.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
大家對於所謂的主權的政治立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5260.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5262.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
我沒有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5262.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5264.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
但是我的意思是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5264.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5266.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
我沒有說到愚蠢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5266.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5268.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
我沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5268.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5270.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
我沒有說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5270.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5272.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
但我的意思是我們回過頭來看這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5272.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5274.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
我們回過頭來看這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5277.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5279.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
因為我們的文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5279.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5281.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
需要管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5281.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
需要走出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5283.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5285.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
需要走出台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5285.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5287.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
台灣其實大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5287.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5289.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
現在全世界都看見台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5289.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
我們反過來想一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5291.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5293.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
如果台灣本身就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5293.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5295.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
可以自我發光的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5295.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5297.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
我們願不願意再給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5297.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
更多的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
能夠更大放光芒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5302.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5304.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
如果願意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5304.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5306.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
大家好好的來審訊這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5306.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5308.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
我覺得這是我剛剛其實不斷的提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5308.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5312.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5312.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5314.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
因為我們的文創的展演 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5314.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5316.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5316.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5318.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
他是高度依賴宣傳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5318.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5320.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
那我想剛剛翁曉琳 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5320.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5322.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
委員也有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5322.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5324.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
我們有到大阪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5324.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5326.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
其實大阪跟我們的文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5326.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5328.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
我們大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5328.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5330.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
光是我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5329.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
萬博所有的展覽 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5331.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5333.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
獲得這麼多的好評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5335.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5337.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
這個真的不是空穴來逢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5337.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5339.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
不是你放在那裡他在深山裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5339.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5341.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
發光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5340.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5342.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
所有人都會來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5342.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5344.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
這個是真的需要宣傳的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5344.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5346.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
所以我再次的懇請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5346.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5348.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
這位黨委員我們好好的來審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5348.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5350.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
我們去年其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5350.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5352.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
已經把這個部分已經砍到零了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5353.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5355.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
已經砍到零了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5355.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5357.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
那你說沒關係砍到零他還是活得了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5359.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5361.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
那反過來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5361.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5363.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
他就算活得了他還是需要資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5363.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5365.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
我們是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5365.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5367.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5368.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5370.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
大家討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5370.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5372.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
你要就併動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5372.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5374.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
我們讓文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5374.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5376.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
讓台灣的文化好好的走出去好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5376.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5378.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5381.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5383.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5382.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5384.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5385.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5387.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
大家不需要掩耳盜鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5388.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5390.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
真的不需要掩耳盜鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5390.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5392.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
提案的委員在外交委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5392.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5394.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
同樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5394.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5396.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
也要大砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5396.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5398.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
外交部的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5399.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5401.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
為什麼是外交plus文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5402.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5404.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
為什麼是文化plus外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5404.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5406.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
大家心知肚明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5407.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5409.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
所以我說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5409.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
台灣正需要向世界發聲的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5411.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5413.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
為什麼有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5413.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5415.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
就要掐住自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5415.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5417.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
文化部的脖子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5417.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5419.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
不需要掩耳盜鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5419.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5421.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
文化就是主權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5421.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
文化就是台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5423.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5425.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5425.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5427.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
我們應當勇敢的透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5427.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5429.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
文化外交向世界論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5430.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5432.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
如同理查吉爾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5433.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5435.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
好萊塢巨星 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5435.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5437.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
昨天在中國推出的惡法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5437.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5439.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
他非常沉痛的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5439.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5441.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
一個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5444.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5446.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
抹除行為的制度化 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5447.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
這是一個惡法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5449.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
將不同的文化認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5451.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
加以抹除 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5453.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5455.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
與以制度化的惡法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5455.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
我要說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5457.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5459.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
大家要思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5462.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5464.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
這一個當下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5464.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5466.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
台灣要向世界傳達的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5466.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5468.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
立場是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5468.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5470.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
難道是我們的國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5472.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5476.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
在刪減自己的文化外交的預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5476.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5478.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
當世界各國在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5478.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5480.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
惡法通過的當下用具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5480.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5482.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
的行動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5482.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
歐洲議會也好大家用具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
的行動去反制的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5486.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5488.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
台灣的國會在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5488.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5490.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
審查文化預算確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5490.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5492.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
要刪減自己的文化預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5492.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
我要請大家思考這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5496.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
層面他不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5496.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5498.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
4738萬這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5498.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5500.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
數字歸為零 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5500.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5502.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
或是減列多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5502.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5504.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
他傳達的意義是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5504.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5506.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
台灣的國會挺不挺自己的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5506.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5508.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
做文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5510.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5512.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5512.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5514.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
要來附和這種文化抹除的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5517.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5519.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
不需要掩耳盜鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5519.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5521.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5522.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5524.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
在外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5524.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5526.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
也是同樣的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5526.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5528.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
同樣的文字政府因亮入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5528.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5530.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
為出蹲減公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5530.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5532.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
共體時間避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5532.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5534.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
不必要的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5534.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5536.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
沒宣費既非屬必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5536.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5538.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
的業務支出因因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5538.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5540.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
考量政府財政狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5540.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
而予以遵節同樣的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
也放在刪減外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
部的沒宣費上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5546.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5548.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
所以很多委員要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5549.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5551.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
不要扯到什麼主權議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5552.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5554.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
不需要掩耳盜鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5555.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5557.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
不要敢做不敢當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5559.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5561.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
剛剛我也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5563.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
提案的委員對於哪些案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5563.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5565.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
補助腐爛你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5565.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5567.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
哪些案子造成民眾負面評價 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5567.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5569.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
我也沒有聽到委員負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5569.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5571.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
的列出你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5571.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5573.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
合理的清單要刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5573.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5575.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
哪些筆預算補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5575.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5577.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
腐爛哪些筆你認為不應當補 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5579.6 |
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5581.6 |
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那如果這樣好啊我覺得 |
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5581.6 |
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5583.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
提案的委員也應當列出你的清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5583.6 |
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5585.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
讓大家來看看確實這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5585.6 |
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5587.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
可能不太妥當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5587.6 |
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5589.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
我們可以理性討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5589.4 |
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5591.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
那現在委員一直要文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5591.4 |
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5593.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
列出他們的細項補助也可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5593.4 |
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5595.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
但是提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5595.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5597.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
是不是要負責任的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5597.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5599.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
你指涉別人補助不公 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5599.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5601.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
補助腐爛是什麼內容呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5603.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5605.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
到底是哪些項目呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5605.96 |
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5607.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
你要刪減預算要有所依據啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5609.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
所以說我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5611.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5613.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
這一筆的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5614.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5616.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
合理的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5616.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5618.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
是我們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5618.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5620.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
局部的凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5620.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
我個人是主張連凍結都不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5622.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5624.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
我支持文化預算我支持文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5624.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5626.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
但如果要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5626.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5628.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
請他們提供文化部提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5628.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5630.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
資料讓委員再進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5630.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5632.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
參足最好的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5633.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5635.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
是當然保留是一種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5635.43 |
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5637.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
但是也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5637.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5639.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
我們採取局部凍結的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5639.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5641.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
然後讓文化部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5641.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5643.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
提出相關說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5643.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5645.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
再予以動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5645.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5647.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
我覺得這是合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5647.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5649.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
做法但是我還是很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5649.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5651.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
提案刪減的委員不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5651.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5653.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
用這種籠統的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5653.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5655.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
你自己沒有辦法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].start |
5655.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].end |
5657.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1722].text |
出來哪些筆補助的哪個團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].start |
5657.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].end |
5659.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1723].text |
一百萬不好該刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].start |
5659.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].end |
5661.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1724].text |
哪些補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].start |
5661.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].end |
5663.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1725].text |
補助活動造成負面觀感 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].start |
5663.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].end |
5665.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1726].text |
一百二十萬該刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].start |
5665.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].end |
5667.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1727].text |
自己提案的委員拿不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].start |
5667.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].end |
5669.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1728].text |
一直逼文化部文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].start |
5670.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].end |
5672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1729].text |
我覺得這就是機身彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].start |
5672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].end |
5674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[1730].text |
誕生機啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].start |
5673.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].end |
5675.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1731].text |
所以如果要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].start |
5675.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].end |
5677.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1732].text |
我覺得局部的凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].start |
5677.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].end |
5679.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1733].text |
然後提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].start |
5679.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].end |
5681.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1734].text |
使得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].start |
5681.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].end |
5683.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1735].text |
但是我還是希望我們既然是民主的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].start |
5683.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].end |
5685.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1736].text |
看看多數委員的意見是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
5685.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].end |
5687.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].text |
我認為這一筆不應當刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].start |
5687.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].end |
5689.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1738].text |
我支持文化的外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
5689.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].end |
5691.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].text |
要做得更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].start |
5691.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].end |
5693.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1740].text |
做得更廣做得更深入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].start |
5694.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].end |
5696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1741].text |
好 我先宣告那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].start |
5696.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].end |
5698.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1742].text |
待會葉元之委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].start |
5698.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].end |
5700.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1743].text |
再來郭奕勤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].start |
5700.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].end |
5702.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1744].text |
那謝謝郭奕勤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].start |
5702.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].end |
5704.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1745].text |
那有確定 你剛剛沒有講愚蠢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].start |
5704.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].end |
5706.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1746].text |
但是你有扣帽子扣文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
5706.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].end |
5708.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].text |
所以拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
5708.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].end |
5710.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].text |
盡量不要點名扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
5710.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].end |
5712.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
5712.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
5714.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
5714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
5716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].text |
下主席講話豐盛一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
5717.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5719.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
對於你的謾罵批評人身攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
5719.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
5721.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].text |
對不起我沒辦法很公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
5721.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].end |
5723.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
5723.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].end |
5725.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].text |
因為你點名直接批評攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
5725.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].end |
5727.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].text |
所以我無法對你公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
5727.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].end |
5729.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].text |
你沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
5732.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].end |
5734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
這個案子誰提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
5734.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].end |
5736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].text |
針對提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
5736.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].end |
5738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].text |
我們在監督的是政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
5738.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].end |
5740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].text |
那你如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
5740.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].end |
5742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].text |
有你的論述加強沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
5742.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
我們都有提到意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
5744.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].end |
5746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
5746.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].end |
5748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
5748.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].end |
5750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].text |
你不是管制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
5750.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].end |
5752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].text |
我們言論的人好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
5752.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].end |
5754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].text |
每一個委員有自己發言的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
5754.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].end |
5756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].text |
跟自己不用自己的語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
5756.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].end |
5758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].text |
你為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
5758.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].end |
5760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
不要做人身攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
5760.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
5762.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].text |
真的是夠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
5773.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].end |
5775.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].text |
我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
5775.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
5777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
公平確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
5777.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
5779.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].text |
我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
5779.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
你哪一次沒有點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
5781.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
所有的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
5783.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
不要去惡意的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
5785.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5787.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
5787.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5789.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
不要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
5789.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5791.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
跟其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
5791.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
跟其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
5793.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5795.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
5795.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
5797.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
其他委員的發言權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
5797.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
沒有權利一再的評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
5799.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
我沒辦法這樣公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
5801.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5803.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
我沒有壓抑自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
5803.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
作為主席我本身就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5805.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5807.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
維護知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
5807.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5809.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].text |
維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
5809.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
5811.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
在製造空服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
5811.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
5813.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
你叫做對我什麼至上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
5813.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5815.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
非常非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
5815.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
5817.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].text |
懇切的尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
5817.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
5819.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
的去要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
5819.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5821.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
去拜託是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
5821.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5823.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
不應該用扣帽子的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
5823.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5825.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
是不是不應該用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
5825.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
5827.41 |
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直接抹黑批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
5827.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
5829.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
5829.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].end |
5831.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
一直在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
5831.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].end |
5833.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].text |
你很威脅的議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
5833.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
5835.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].text |
你就說這個是叫做言論不自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
5835.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
5837.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].text |
拿著主席的麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
5837.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5839.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
就可以無止盡的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
5839.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
5841.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
不用被時間限制嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
5841.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
5843.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].text |
我覺得真的大同一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
5843.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].end |
5845.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].text |
現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
5845.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].end |
5847.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
你就拿著麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
5847.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].end |
5849.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
我也沒有限制你的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
5849.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
你想講你就去講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5851.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5853.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
但作為主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5853.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5855.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
不要說什麼這是電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
5855.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
我本身就有義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5857.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
我接受你一個一個點名說話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5859.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5861.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
可是不代表你可以點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
5861.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5863.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
每一個委員說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5863.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5865.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
他難道講文化殺手你錯了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
5865.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5867.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
敢提案的委員為什麼不敢被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5867.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5869.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
提案把預算談的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
5869.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5871.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
不敢承認是文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5871.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
文化殺手錯了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5873.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5875.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
你用所有的統治詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5875.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5877.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
去承認所有的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
5877.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5879.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
國民黨從這一屆開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5879.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5881.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
哪一次不去這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5881.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5883.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
如果要想到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5883.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5885.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
繼續想都不讓停 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5885.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5887.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
我認同的主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
5887.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5891.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].text |
你敢把預算砍官不敢自己承認是文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].start |
5891.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].end |
5893.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1831].text |
還別人講不得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].start |
5893.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].end |
5895.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1832].text |
你要惡意砍光光 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].start |
5895.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].end |
5897.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1833].text |
到目前為止都在討論的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].start |
5897.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].end |
5899.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1834].text |
那別人不能評論嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].start |
5899.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].end |
5901.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1835].text |
只有你最大 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].start |
5901.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].end |
5903.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1836].text |
你不要去扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].start |
5903.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].end |
5905.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1837].text |
要動不動就說是中共同立人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].start |
5905.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].end |
5907.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1838].text |
不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].start |
5907.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].end |
5909.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1839].text |
不要言而道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].start |
5909.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].end |
5911.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1840].text |
請不要再評論了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].start |
5911.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].end |
5913.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1841].text |
要處理預算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].start |
5913.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].end |
5915.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1842].text |
主席可以處理預算了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].start |
5915.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].end |
5917.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1843].text |
我不認同你的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].start |
5917.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].end |
5919.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1844].text |
還是讓你可以有發言的任何機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].start |
5919.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].end |
5921.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1845].text |
你的消音 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].start |
5921.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].end |
5923.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1846].text |
有達到嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].start |
5923.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].end |
5925.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1847].text |
你不也是現在正在發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].start |
5925.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].end |
5927.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1848].text |
這就是你的言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].start |
5927.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].end |
5929.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1849].text |
你要停止我們就大家一起停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].start |
5929.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].end |
5931.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1850].text |
所以現階段你沒有停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].start |
5931.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].end |
5933.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1851].text |
你再要選委員停止的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].start |
5933.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].end |
5935.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1852].text |
你沒有停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].start |
5935.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].end |
5937.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1853].text |
我只是希望透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].start |
5937.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].end |
5939.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1854].text |
我的發言機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].start |
5939.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].end |
5941.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1855].text |
來呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].start |
5941.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].end |
5943.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1856].text |
今天在教文委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].start |
5943.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].end |
5945.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1857].text |
這麼惡意的攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].start |
5945.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].end |
5947.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1858].text |
教文委員會應該本做事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].start |
5947.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].end |
5949.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1859].text |
來監督執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].start |
5949.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].end |
5951.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1860].text |
好好地去把這個相關的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].start |
5951.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].end |
5953.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1861].text |
講清楚說明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].start |
5953.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].end |
5955.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1862].text |
讓國人能夠知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].start |
5955.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].end |
5957.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1863].text |
哪些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].start |
5957.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].end |
5959.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1864].text |
用在刀口 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].start |
5959.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].end |
5961.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1865].text |
哪些錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].start |
5961.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].end |
5963.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1866].text |
用在所謂的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].start |
5963.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].end |
5965.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1867].text |
性侵毛小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].start |
5965.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].end |
5967.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1868].text |
的音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].start |
5967.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].end |
5969.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1869].text |
我想國人都非常的公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].start |
5969.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].end |
5971.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1870].text |
我想國人都非常的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].start |
5971.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].end |
5973.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1871].text |
我們的錢到底花在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].start |
5973.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].end |
5975.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1872].text |
所以我也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].start |
5975.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].end |
5977.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1873].text |
今天我們要精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].start |
5977.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].end |
5979.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1874].text |
不要問A |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].start |
5979.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].end |
5981.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1875].text |
但是有浪費公帑之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].start |
5981.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].end |
5983.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1876].text |
我們就希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].start |
5983.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].end |
5985.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1877].text |
要講清楚說明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].start |
5985.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].end |
5987.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1878].text |
剛剛這個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].start |
5987.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].end |
5989.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1879].text |
但是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].start |
5989.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].end |
5991.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1880].text |
委員說哪一條補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].start |
5991.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].end |
5993.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1881].text |
是負面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].start |
5993.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].end |
5995.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1882].text |
各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].start |
5995.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].end |
5997.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1883].text |
委員已經不在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].start |
5997.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].end |
5999.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1884].text |
在的委員好好的討論預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].start |
5999.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].end |
6001.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1885].text |
可不可以提案委員已經不在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].start |
6001.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].end |
6003.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1886].text |
所以提案委員不在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].start |
6003.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].end |
6005.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1887].text |
所以委員後的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].start |
6005.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].end |
6007.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1888].text |
會委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].start |
6007.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].end |
6009.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1889].text |
他排排屁股就走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].start |
6009.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].end |
6011.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1890].text |
郭小林提案刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].start |
6011.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].end |
6013.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1891].text |
文化預算他不是文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].start |
6013.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].end |
6015.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1892].text |
他排排屁股走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].start |
6015.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].end |
6017.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1893].text |
他就敢做不敢當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].start |
6017.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].end |
6019.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1894].text |
文化殺手敢做不敢當 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].start |
6019.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].end |
6021.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1895].text |
他都排排屁股走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].start |
6021.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].end |
6023.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1896].text |
他這麼隨便的砍預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].start |
6023.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].end |
6025.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1897].text |
不敢負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].start |
6025.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].end |
6027.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1898].text |
敢提案不敢負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].start |
6027.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].end |
6029.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1899].text |
就落跑嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].start |
6029.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].end |
6031.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1900].text |
就落跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].start |
6031.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].end |
6033.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1901].text |
而且不要搞錯那是補助經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].start |
6033.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].end |
6035.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1902].text |
這筆是沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].start |
6035.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].end |
6037.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1903].text |
補助經費跟沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].start |
6037.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].end |
6039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1904].text |
是不同比的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].start |
6039.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].end |
6041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1905].text |
不要搞錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].start |
6041.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].end |
6043.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1906].text |
那是補助費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].start |
6043.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].end |
6045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1907].text |
那是補助費跟沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].start |
6045.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].end |
6047.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1908].text |
是不一樣的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].start |
6047.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].end |
6049.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1909].text |
因為有委員問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].start |
6049.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].end |
6051.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1910].text |
要砍預算也不要砍錯筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].start |
6051.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].end |
6053.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1911].text |
功課做好再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].start |
6053.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].end |
6055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1912].text |
提案的委員都落跑了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].start |
6055.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].end |
6057.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1913].text |
郭小林不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].start |
6057.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].end |
6059.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1914].text |
不是文化委員會的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].start |
6059.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].end |
6061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1915].text |
他提案都走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].start |
6061.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].end |
6063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1916].text |
已經一個多小時來審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].start |
6063.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].end |
6065.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1917].text |
那我覺得要不要叫郭小林 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].start |
6065.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].end |
6067.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1918].text |
他敢提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].start |
6067.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].end |
6069.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1919].text |
然後再處理的時候他不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].start |
6069.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].end |
6071.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1920].text |
那他有尊重文化委員會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].start |
6071.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].end |
6073.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1921].text |
他已經離開我們就好好來把 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].start |
6073.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].end |
6075.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1922].text |
他已經宣布他自己的一個選法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].start |
6075.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].end |
6077.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1923].text |
我們就好好來審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].start |
6077.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].end |
6079.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1924].text |
那我們就不予刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].start |
6079.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].end |
6081.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1925].text |
提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].start |
6081.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].end |
6083.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1926].text |
我們再不敢面對我們就全數保留吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].start |
6083.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].end |
6085.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1927].text |
我們不敢面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].start |
6085.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].end |
6087.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1928].text |
我們不要再扯到別人我們再看看這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].start |
6087.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].end |
6089.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1929].text |
我們到底要來審選多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].start |
6089.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].end |
6091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1930].text |
他是提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].start |
6091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].end |
6093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1931].text |
他已經發表他的結果了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].start |
6093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].end |
6095.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1932].text |
他正是這個案的提案委員他不是別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].start |
6095.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].end |
6097.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1933].text |
他是當事者他是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].start |
6097.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].end |
6099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1934].text |
砍光文化預算的文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].start |
6099.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].end |
6101.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1935].text |
不好意思我不重說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].start |
6101.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].end |
6103.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1936].text |
你們要對提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].start |
6103.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].end |
6105.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1937].text |
這樣子的一個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].start |
6105.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].end |
6107.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1938].text |
我當然只能夠說尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].start |
6108.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].end |
6110.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1939].text |
但是因為剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].start |
6110.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6112.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
回放我們的整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6112.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6114.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
直播就是有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6114.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6116.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
一邊提案委員一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6116.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6118.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
點名我羅廷瑋點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6118.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6120.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
羅志強那就順便一起批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6120.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6122.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
所以我作為被批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6122.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6124.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
的當下我會覺得不舒服 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6124.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6126.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
所以我要回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6126.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6128.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
沒關係我連署的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6128.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6130.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
但是你有批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6130.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6132.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
我就要回應就這麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6134.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6136.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
所以我現在也要講你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6136.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6138.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
你兩岸人民條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6138.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6140.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
你提了你又立可白又塗掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6140.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6142.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
你立可白立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6142.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6144.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
那你這話話說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6144.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6146.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
我會是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6146.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6148.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
你又不敢講嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6148.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6150.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
我講你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6150.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6152.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
我會是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6152.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6154.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
然後別人講的時候就不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6154.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6156.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6156.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6158.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
你到底會不會當事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6158.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6160.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
然後再來無視要委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6160.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6162.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
這個是補助這個是沒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6162.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6164.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
剛剛你的直播又清清楚楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6164.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6166.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
就搞錯了你砍錯預算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6166.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6168.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
你砍錯預算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6168.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6170.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
那你去砍補助費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6170.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
這是沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6172.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6174.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
簡略簡簡連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6174.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6176.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
簡略簡簡連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6176.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6178.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
是不是羅廷瑋委員連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6178.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6180.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
是不是羅志強委員連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6180.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6182.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
是不是羅志強委員連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6182.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6184.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
白紙黑字那麼清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6184.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6186.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
我就是講這個白紙黑字 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6186.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6188.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6188.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6190.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
沒有問題這是事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6190.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6192.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
為什麼我話殺手是事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6192.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6194.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
你是文化殺手是事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6194.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6196.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
你敢連署這種提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6196.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6198.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
羅廷瑋就是文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6198.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6200.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
是事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6200.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6202.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6202.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6204.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
如果你想要捍衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6204.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6206.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
那你為什麼要立可白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6206.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6208.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
那你就不要立可白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6208.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6210.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
那你就可以捍衛了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6210.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6212.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
我們支持你不要立可白 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6212.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6214.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
那你又說我不能管你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6214.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6216.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
當然我不能管你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6216.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6218.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
你又管別人的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6218.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6220.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
我現在在審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6220.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6222.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
我現在在審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6222.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6224.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
主席你到底會不會主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6224.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6226.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
你不尊重別人你自然得不到尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6226.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6228.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
最不尊重別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6228.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6230.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
人叫羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6230.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6232.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
最不尊重委員發言權利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6232.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6234.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
叫做羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6234.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6236.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
你不要正視著你是召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6236.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
你就可以無限制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6238.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
拿著麥克風做你愛評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6240.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6242.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
的事對於其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6242.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6244.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
的主相來進行評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6244.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6246.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6246.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6248.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
這樣子的召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6248.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6250.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
沒有辦法搞清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6250.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6252.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
預算要審哪一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6252.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6254.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
沒有辦法搞清楚你們的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6254.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6256.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
都砍錯預算了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6256.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6258.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
你自己做為連署的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6258.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6260.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
共同提案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6260.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6262.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
你不敢面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6262.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
你是文化殺手你不敢面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6264.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6266.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
先窩小鈴鬧好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6266.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6268.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
好我們休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6268.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6270.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
休息一下謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6293.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6295.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6309.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
先說一聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6311.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6313.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6314.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6316.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
去那邊這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6322.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
羅廷瑋還有美學給我的好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6326.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
再說一次是羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6328.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6330.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
在外國我剛才那個天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6330.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
一模一樣的比得上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6332.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6334.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
沒有美學還是國的好好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6334.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6336.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
不然國家要運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6336.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6338.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
不然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6338.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6340.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6340.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6342.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
沒有美學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6354.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6356.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
你剛才叫我坐前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6356.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6358.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
我不行我要跑廁所比較方便 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6358.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6360.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6360.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6362.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
也不是醫生說也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6362.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6364.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
就是又發燒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6434.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6436.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
我只告訴你們要怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6436.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6438.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
不然到時候就不想了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6658.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6660.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
不用再處理我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6660.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6662.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
個別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6662.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6664.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
每個產業師的每宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6664.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6666.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
就不用再做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6666.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6668.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
全部都在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6668.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6670.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
我們這4738 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6670.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6672.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
就已經包括所有的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6672.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6674.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6674.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6676.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
因為被硬塞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6676.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6678.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
所以變得好像我們在裸自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6788.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6790.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6833.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6835.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6851.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].end |
6853.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].start |
6856.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].end |
6858.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
好現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6858.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6862.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
好我們先請郭一群委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6864.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6866.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6864.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6866.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6866.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
好那我先解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].start |
6868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].end |
6870.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
因為這個簡列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6870.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
我們的元列數是4738萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6874.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
如果簡列4738萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6874.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6876.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
是等於全數簡列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6876.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].end |
6878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
對我來講其實就是文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].start |
6878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].end |
6880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
我先解釋我的原意是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6882.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
但我沒有特別指明誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].start |
6882.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
我還是要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].start |
6884.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6886.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
因為其實我們在下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6886.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6888.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
會用到這筆預算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].start |
6888.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].end |
6890.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
包含國際書展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].start |
6890.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].end |
6892.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
包含兒少書展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].start |
6892.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6894.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
包含文博會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6894.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6896.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
另外還有金錦獎跟金曼獎等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].start |
6896.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6898.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
那我想其實在今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6898.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6900.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
我們看到這麼多傑出優秀的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6900.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6902.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
一些不管是展演也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6902.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6904.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
金曲獎也好然後其實大家對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6904.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6906.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
台灣影視文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6906.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6908.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
或者是在我們所有的其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6908.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6910.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
一些展演的文化的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].start |
6910.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6912.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].start |
6912.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6914.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
全部簡列是有一點誇張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6914.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6916.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
也有點過分了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6916.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6918.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
我們平心而論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].start |
6918.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
真的不要給他一台車 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
然後不給他加油的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
連一滴油都不給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
那請問這台車到底要怎麼跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6928.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
那我想其實剛剛很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6928.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6930.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
也都表示了一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].start |
6930.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6932.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
那我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6932.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6934.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
我真的希望是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6934.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6936.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
可以就照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6936.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6938.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
我真的不希望因為去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6938.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6940.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
我們這筆預算已經是被砍到零了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6940.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6942.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
這如果要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6942.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6944.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
不會啊我砍到零你還是活得好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6944.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6946.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
而且還發光發熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].start |
6946.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6948.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
這很像我的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6948.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6950.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
如果我把它放到外地啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6951.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6953.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
他活得好好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6953.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6955.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
但他可能在整個所有的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6955.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6957.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
東檢西調靠鄰居的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6957.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6959.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
靠鄰居的幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].start |
6959.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6961.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
一天一餐這樣子給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6961.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6963.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
結果我說沒關係你活得好好的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6963.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6965.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
我一毛錢都不給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6965.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
我想這應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6967.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
任何身為父母的應該都做不到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].start |
6969.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
要馬兒好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6971.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
你還是要給馬兒吃草 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].start |
6973.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
這是我的原意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6975.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6977.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
那我希望等一下我發言完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6977.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6979.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
其實我們就請文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6979.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
請文化部來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6981.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6983.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
這筆預算的這個重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6983.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6985.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
就像我剛剛講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6985.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6987.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
他是一個可以原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6987.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6989.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
發光發熱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6989.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6991.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
如果靠月光 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6991.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6993.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
靠平常的日光 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6993.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6995.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
對他有光輝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6995.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6997.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
可是如果我們再多給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6997.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6999.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
一些補助多給他一些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6999.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
7001.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
他會不會更發光發熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
7001.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
7003.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
那這是我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
7005.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
7007.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
好我們今天這麼多案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
7007.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
7009.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
我也不知道要審到什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
7009.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
7011.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
那等一下就是看發言完 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
7011.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
7013.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
請主席才是是不是讓文化部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
7013.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
7015.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
表示意見那我的原意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
7015.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
7017.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
希望還是照列好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
7017.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
7019.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
好我們剛剛有宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
7020.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
7022.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
那兩位發言完 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].start |
7022.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
7024.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
再說所以我不能夠漏掉葉元之 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].start |
7024.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
7026.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].start |
7026.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
7028.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
應該剛剛有舉手啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].start |
7028.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
7030.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
後來草成一團我就那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].start |
7030.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
7032.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
我覺得回到這個預算本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
7032.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
7034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
不管提案委員是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
7034.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
7036.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
既然有那麼多委員對這 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
7036.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
7038.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
四千多萬有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
7038.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
7040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
那我覺得等一下就請文化部好好說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
7040.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
7042.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
這四千七百萬到底用在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
7042.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
7044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
那如果有必要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].start |
7044.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
7046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
大家就照列嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
7046.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
7048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
如果大家對這個預算有質疑的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
7048.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
7050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
就不管是凍結也好剪裂也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
7050.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
7052.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
這個是審查預算的ABC |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
7052.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
7054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
所以我希望說有些委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
7054.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
7056.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
我不知道是意識形態特別重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
7056.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
7058.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
還是特別怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
7058.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
7060.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
很喜歡政治鬥爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].start |
7060.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
7062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
老是喜歡潑髒水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
7062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
7064.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
好像只要提預算意見的一律都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].start |
7064.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
7066.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
好像跟中共唱和 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
7066.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
7068.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
我是希望今天審預算都不要再出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
7068.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
7070.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
這種扣帽子抹紅潑糞的言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
7070.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
7072.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
這樣才能夠維持我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
7072.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
7074.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
7074.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
7076.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
一貫的優良傳統 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].start |
7076.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
7078.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
就是就事論事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].start |
7078.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
7080.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
7080.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
7082.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
因為我不知道文化部是不是新聘吳士耀委員當發言人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
7082.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
7084.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
所以剛剛大家都在問文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].start |
7084.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
7086.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
結果是吳士耀一直在說明說這個錢怎麼用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
7086.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
7088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
我不知道吳士耀說的錢是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
7088.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
7090.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
真的就是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
7090.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
7092.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
就是這樣編的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].start |
7092.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
7094.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
所以請文化部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
7094.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
7096.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
但是因為你講了半天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
7096.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
7098.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
你一直在幫文化部解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].start |
7098.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
7100.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
我不知道你解釋的到底是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
7100.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
7102.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
因為我不知道你解釋的到底是不是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
7102.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
7104.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
這筆錢的用途 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
7104.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
7106.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
所以請文化部說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
7106.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
7108.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
到底這筆錢怎麼用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
7108.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
7110.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
7113.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
7115.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
7114.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
7116.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
7116.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
7118.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
我還是要尊重別人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
7118.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
7120.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
吳士耀委員你要發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
7119.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
7121.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
吳士耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
7122.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
7124.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
我們不要去限制別人的言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
7127.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
7129.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
7129.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
7131.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
其實我覺得是這樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
7131.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
7133.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
我剛剛去調出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
7133.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
7135.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
這是外交部翁曉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
7135.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
7137.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
7137.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
7139.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
7139.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
7141.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
這是行政院翁曉琳委員砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
7141.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
7143.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
行政院沒選費的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
7144.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
7146.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
這是陸委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
7147.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
7149.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
翁曉琳委員砍沒選的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
7149.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
7151.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
跟今天文化部砍沒選費的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
7151.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
7153.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
跟今天文化部砍沒選費的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
7153.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
7155.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
完全是複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
7156.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
7158.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
完全是複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
7158.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
7160.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
這就是無差別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
7160.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
7162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
砍預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
7162.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
7164.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
無差別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
7164.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
7166.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
對於政府的沒選費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
7167.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
7169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
看到沒選費就開清 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
7169.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
7171.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
看到沒選費就全砍全殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
7172.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
7174.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
所以說我們一直很理性的在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
7174.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
7176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
你針對不同部門的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
7176.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
7178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
不同預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
7178.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
7180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
有什麼樣意見你具體的提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
7180.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
7182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
我不能接受的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
7182.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
7184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
一個沒有在教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
7184.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
7186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
鑽研過認真過的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
7186.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
7188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
外委員會也有提案的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
7188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
7190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
可以因為我們也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
7190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
7192.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
羅志祥委員羅廷威委員幫他一起連署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
7192.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
7194.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
程序符合OK |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
7194.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
7196.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
可是對於這一項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
7196.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
7198.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
沒選費到底用在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
7198.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
7200.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
完全不清楚提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
7200.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
7202.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
只是複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
7202.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
7204.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
這樣子對於審查預算有負責任嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
7205.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
7207.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
然後我最後再補充一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
7207.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
7209.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
剛剛在講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
7209.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
7211.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
包括羅廷威教委一直在提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
7211.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
7213.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
某個補助案造成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
7213.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
7215.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
社會觀感不佳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
7215.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
7217.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
那個提案的預算在第260案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
7217.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
7219.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
在影視音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
7219.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
7221.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
產業發展計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
7221.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
7223.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
向下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
7223.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
7225.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
流行音樂輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
7225.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
7227.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
而且那一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
7227.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
7229.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
是108年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
7229.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
7231.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
的補助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
7231.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
7233.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
補助經費是70萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
7233.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
7235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
是一整張製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
7235.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
7237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
專輯裡面的其中一首 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
7237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
7239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
歌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
7239.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
7241.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
被認為也許在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
7241.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
7243.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
內容上有所不妥 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
7244.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
7246.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
但這是108年的一個補助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
7249.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
7251.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
現在是審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
7253.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
7255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
幾年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
7255.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
7257.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
108年跟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
7257.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
7259.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
拿這樣子的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
7259.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
7261.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
那如果你要再要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
7261.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
7263.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
行政部門文化部經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
7263.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
7265.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
也可以那請在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
7265.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
7267.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
對的預算項目上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
7267.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
7269.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
提出對的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
7269.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
7271.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
而那個補助費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
7271.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
7273.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
預算項目在預算書 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
7273.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
7275.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
的流行音樂產業發展計劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
7275.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
7277.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
是在影視音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
7278.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
7280.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
的預算裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
7280.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
7282.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
不在現在的沒宣費裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
7282.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
7284.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
所以這就是我說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
7284.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
7286.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
一個提案委員對於預算編在哪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
7286.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
7288.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
7288.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
7290.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
要砍也亂砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
7290.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
7292.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
砍錯人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
7293.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
7295.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
然後所有的提案都是複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
7295.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
7297.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
從外交部行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
7297.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
7299.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
陸委會再到文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
7301.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
7303.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
政府的嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
7303.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
7305.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
政府傳達的管道被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
7305.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
7307.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
掐住了脖子被摀住了嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
7307.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
7309.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
我們怎麼對國人宣傳政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
7309.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
7311.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
怎麼對外行銷台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
7312.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
7314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
不要掩耳盜鈴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
7314.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
7316.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
只是為了政治攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
7318.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
7320.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
攻擊執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
7320.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
團隊無差別的砍預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7322.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7324.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
就在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7325.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7327.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
我是真的覺得提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7327.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7329.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
真的你要砍預算認真一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7329.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7331.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
項目看對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7331.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7333.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
數目看準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7333.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
提案提在哪也要搞清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
所以我不能接受這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7338.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7340.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
為砍而砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7340.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7342.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
的提案我強力的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7342.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7344.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
我也請主席可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7344.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7346.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
依據我們的主席我再跟您 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7346.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7348.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
報告主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7348.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7350.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7350.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7352.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
請依據我們現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7352.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7354.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
我看多數的委員是希望照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7354.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7356.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
看看主席的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7356.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7358.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
沒關係我說我們多數委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7358.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7360.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
我是提醒主席可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7360.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7362.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
我個人強烈表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7362.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7364.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
因為如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7364.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7366.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
不能夠因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7366.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7368.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
現在年已經過半了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7368.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7370.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
好像這筆費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7370.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7372.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
用到的是下半年的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7372.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7374.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
的宣傳我覺得不能這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7375.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7377.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
因為我們該給國家的預算是整年度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7377.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7379.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
對不起我在發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7381.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7383.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
我哪裡講的是不合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7383.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7385.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
請你反駁啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7385.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7387.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
請你反駁啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7387.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7389.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
我哪裡講錯了不要不敢面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7390.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7392.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
所以說我真的覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7392.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7394.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
我們這一筆預算是一整年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7394.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
預算不能因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
只剩下下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
我們就認為我們留給下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
足夠的額度就好了不 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
可以這樣而且以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
這一筆預算項目就會留在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
可能今年保留兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
或是多少那對於每一年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
沒宣費去年就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7414.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
就是犯了這樣的錯所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7414.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7416.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
它那個基底合宜的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7416.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
合宜的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
的項目數字就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
一直被這樣子縮水 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
縮水下去該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
多少就是一整年度的預算我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
要看整年的文化外交 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7430.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
跟對內宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7430.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7432.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
的所需經費是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7433.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7435.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
所以請部長要回應之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7436.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7438.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
我覺得請提案的委員搞清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7438.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7440.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
砍錯地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7440.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
砍錯預算然後不敢面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7442.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7444.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
這才是我們委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7444.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7446.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
不嚴謹不專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7446.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7448.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
這才是問題所在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7448.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7450.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
請羅致陽委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7452.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7454.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7454.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7456.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
吳思耀委員又點名我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7456.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7458.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
根據被點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7458.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7460.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
只好來回應的這個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7460.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7462.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
我還是來回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7462.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7464.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
其實我還是謝謝吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7464.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7466.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
因為吳思耀委員每次發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7466.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7468.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
都會讓事情變得更清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7468.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7470.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
所以謝謝吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7470.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7472.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
那只是刀跟劍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7472.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7474.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
往哪邊打搞不太清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7474.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7476.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
剛吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7476.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7478.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
特別講翁曉玲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7478.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7480.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
她提案全山 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7480.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7482.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
運動化部的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7482.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7484.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
那不就證明一件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7484.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7486.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
請問運動部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7486.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7488.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
沒宣費刪了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7487.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7489.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
教育部的沒宣費刪了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7490.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7492.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
通通沒刪啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7491.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7493.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
好,不用擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7493.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7495.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
等我講完吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7495.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7497.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
你剛講話又沒插嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7497.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7499.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
你講那麼長都沒插嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7499.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7501.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
不要每次人家講話就插嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7501.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7503.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
吳思耀委員請不要干擾別人的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7503.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7505.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
剛剛葉元之委員也選擇最後不干擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7505.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7507.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
不要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7507.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7509.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
至少我沒有干擾你,不要干擾我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7509.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7511.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
還是謝謝吳思耀委員啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7511.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7513.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
我告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7514.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7516.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
預算的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7516.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7518.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
今天沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7518.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7520.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
文化部在使用過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7520.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7522.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
當然有公信力的問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7522.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7524.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
為什麼運動部跟教育部的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7524.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7526.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
在我們教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7526.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
我們能夠通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7528.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7530.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
照例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7530.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7532.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
因為我相信教育部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7532.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7534.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
因為我相信運動部啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7534.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7536.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
因為他沒有過去亂用的紀錄啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7536.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7538.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
就這麼簡單啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7539.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7541.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
吳思耀委員在做第二點陳情講得非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7541.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7543.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
他講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7543.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7547.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
文化部補助性侵犯毛小孩的音樂創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7547.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7549.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
他說這是108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7549.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7551.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7551.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7553.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
沒關係啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7553.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7555.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
多年前啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7554.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7556.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
我們在過去質詢的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7556.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7558.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
要的就是文化部的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7558.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7560.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
請問文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7560.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7562.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
有對此道歉嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7562.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7564.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
有對此說認真改善嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7564.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7566.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7566.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7568.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
從剛開始文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7568.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7570.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
還是在護航啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7570.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7572.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
到後來態度有軟一點點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7572.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7574.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
但這件事情我沒有看文化部的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7574.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7576.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
這叫做過往 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
過往文化部對過往 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7578.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
可能因為政經部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7580.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7582.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
留下的爛攤子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7582.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7584.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
他不想要去打政經部長的臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7584.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7586.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
但是如果你的態度沒有改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7586.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7588.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
這就累積到公信力的自傷嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7594.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
吳釗燮你講的是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7594.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7596.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
108年的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7596.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7598.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
抱歉啊 我在68案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7599.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7601.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
不要講功夫這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7601.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
我要特別講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7603.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7605.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
國家工坊得之不易啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7607.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7609.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
今天單單一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7609.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7611.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
票房不佳的功夫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7612.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7614.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
文化部就投了1.5億耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7616.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
任何的團體要拿到文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
100萬都很困難的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7620.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7622.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
你拿了1.5億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7622.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7624.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
我想請問到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7624.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7626.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
文化部有告訴我們怎麼檢討反省嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7626.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7628.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
沒有啊 到案68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7628.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7630.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
我會再拿出來講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7630.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7632.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
所以我還是感謝吳釗燮委員嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7632.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7634.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
你說 太久了不能追 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7634.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7636.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
最近的總可以講吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7636.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
最近的總可以講吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
那我就要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
不要 你不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
你待會要舉手再講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
我也不會插你的嘴嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
不用擔心嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7650.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
你不要點我的名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7650.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
我就不會回應你嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
你點我的名我只要回應你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7656.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
建立這個原則啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7656.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7658.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
對不對 來沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7658.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7660.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
請提案理由嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7660.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7662.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
參與連署理由嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7662.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7664.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
不要用我講的有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7664.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7666.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
又開始用插嘴打倒的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7666.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
是自己對自己的邏輯沒信心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7672.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
我還是回頭講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7672.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7674.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
光功夫這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7675.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7677.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
請文化不給什麼交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7677.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7679.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
我今天要衛生研的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7679.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7681.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
其他沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7681.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7683.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
拿到補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7683.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7685.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
影視創作團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7685.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7687.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
我也不是沒有接到其他沒有拿到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7687.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7689.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
補助的影視創作團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7689.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7691.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
1.5億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7691.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7693.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
光15的團體可以拿1000萬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7696.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7698.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
請問文化部能不能保證不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7698.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7700.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
這種事情再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7700.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7702.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
有保證過嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7701.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7703.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
如果沒有這種保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7703.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7705.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
說真的今天沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7705.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7707.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
翁曉盈講的也不能說沒道理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7708.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7710.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
文化部即便免費40 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7711.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7713.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
光復還可以補出1.5億啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7713.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7715.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
沒宣費40 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7715.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7717.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
今天還是一樣可以有很多事情做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7717.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7719.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
但做的好還是壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7719.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7721.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
心中只有一把尺啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7721.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
心中只有一把尺啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7723.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7725.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
所以回到沒宣費這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7725.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7727.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
我只要問一件事情啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7727.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7729.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
為什麼運動部為什麼教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7730.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7732.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
都沒宣費沒有砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7733.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7735.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
要不要自我反省一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7736.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
今天或者部長在這邊跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7739.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7741.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
說今天你願意為性侵犯毛小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7741.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7743.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
過去的錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7743.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7745.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
你跟我道歉保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7745.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7747.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
不是要跟我道歉啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7747.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7749.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
跟人民道歉保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7749.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7751.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
絕不再犯不會有這種事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7751.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7753.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
對於工夫這種獨佔1.5億的這種所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7753.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
獨佔的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7755.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
你可不可以跟我保證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7757.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
不會再有這種情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7760.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7762.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
那今天我們可以來告訴大家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7762.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
文化部運算我們可以好好的來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7764.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7766.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
看看秉持你願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7766.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7768.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
改正過往的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7768.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7770.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
我們對你的信任度高一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7770.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7772.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
第三個就是我要講的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7774.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7776.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
前面沒有公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7776.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7778.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
你的沒宣費的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7778.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7780.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
又沒有透明度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7781.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7783.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
這是為什麼葉原志委員一直在講的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7783.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7785.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
你透明總要做到嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7786.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7788.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
如果前面沒有公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7788.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7790.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
透明度又沒有做好的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7790.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7792.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
那說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7792.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7794.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
今天放了這個沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7795.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7797.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
既公信力站不住腳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7797.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7799.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
透明度也站不住腳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7799.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7801.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
我不會拿來說什麼今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7801.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7805.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
這個委員反對這個提案的委員是愚蠢啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7805.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7807.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
我不會用這種話來講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7807.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7809.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
可是拜託啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7809.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7811.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
立法委員監督預算是天職好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7812.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7814.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
我跟你講我的結論很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7814.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7816.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
尊重翁曉盈委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7816.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
今天提案在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7818.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7820.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
那就是保留嘛以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7821.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7823.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
好剛剛郭一行委員要舉手了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7823.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
我先講30秒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7825.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
那也補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7827.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7829.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
因為我在質詢的時候也有問 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7829.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7831.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
我們的文化部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7831.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7833.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
對於這108年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7833.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7837.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
這一案補助性侵毛小孩的這個補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7837.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7839.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
要不要追回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7839.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7841.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
他說他把這個音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7841.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7843.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
再拿給所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7843.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7845.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
再評估一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7845.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7847.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
所有的委員說沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7848.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7850.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
要繼續給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7850.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7852.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
所以不用收回 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7852.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7854.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
所以我當然擔心啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7854.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7856.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
我當然擔憂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7856.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7858.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
部長親自認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7858.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7860.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
拿回去再聽沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7859.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7861.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
所以以後會再發放的機率非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7861.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7863.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
好我短短的再說一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
因為其實我剛剛有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
因為這一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7871.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7873.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
編列的預算其實是攸關下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7873.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7875.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
我剛剛提到的那麼多的項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7876.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
那包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7878.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7880.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
我再強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7880.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7882.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
國際書展、兒少書展、時裝周、文博會、金鼎獎、金曼獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7882.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7884.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
那剛剛其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7884.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7886.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
兩位羅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7886.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7888.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
所提到的那個是後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7888.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
68跟260 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7892.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
那那個部分我們是不是等到那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7892.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7894.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
我們再來解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7894.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7896.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
就是你們剛剛的疑慮的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7896.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7898.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
如果說今天我們剛剛所提到的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7898.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7900.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
明年可能會用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7900.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7902.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
這筆費用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7902.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7904.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
我們是不是可以給文化部一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7904.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7906.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
如果真的今年做不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7906.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7908.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
明年再來修理他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7908.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7910.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7910.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7912.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
那我想這個部分我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7912.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7914.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
我支持還是原照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7914.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7916.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
因為去年已經砍到零了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7916.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7918.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
那今年是不是給他們一點點生活的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7918.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7920.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
那今年是不是給他們一點點生活的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7922.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7924.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7924.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7926.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
那剛剛至於兩位所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7926.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7928.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
那個是後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7928.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7930.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
後面是第68案跟260案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7930.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7932.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
我們後面再來討論那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7932.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7934.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7934.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7936.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
剛剛我所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7936.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7938.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
明年下半年還有明年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7938.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7940.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
這麼多重要的一個展覽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7940.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7942.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
跟這麼多重要的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7943.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7945.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
那需要這筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
我們給他們一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7949.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
讓他們好好做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7951.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
做不好我們明年一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7953.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
會在這個地方再繼續修理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7955.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
這樣子好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7957.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7959.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
那是不是可以請文化部來回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
不好意思因為有人聚首 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
30秒就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
我覺得我們這個審預算的程序變得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
變成民進黨的立委先說可不可以照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
然後我們再找文化部來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
那以後乾脆預算都不用審好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
就直接全部照列就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
應該我覺得SOP |
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7976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
應該是說大家先提出各自的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7980.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
然後文化部來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7980.4 |
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7982.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
如果文化部說明OK照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7982.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7984.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
如果不OK就動或刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7984.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7986.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
怎麼會變成說先照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7986.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7988.4 |
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你沒有照列你就是文化殺手 |
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7988.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
你就是什麼中共同務人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7990.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7992.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
我覺得真的是不要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7992.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7994.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
就是剛剛很多委員有問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7994.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7996.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
那就請文化部一次把問題說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7996.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7998.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
委員們會就事論事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7998.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
8000.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
該給的大家都會給好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
8003.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
8005.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
好是不是由部長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
8005.44 |
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8007.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
8007.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
8009.45 |
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我對剛才所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
8009.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
8011.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
幫我們講話的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
8011.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
8013.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
幫我們捍衛預算的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
8013.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
8015.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
謝謝你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
8015.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
8017.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
針對我們這個預算有疑慮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
8017.45 |
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8019.45 |
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我解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
8019.45 |
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8021.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
剛剛講到我們去年一整年都沒有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
8021.45 |
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8023.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
美宣可是我們還做得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
8023.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
8025.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
其實是一種讚美 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
8025.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
8027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
事實上我們真的是在沒有美宣的情況下做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
8027.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
8029.45 |
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那像我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
8029.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
8031.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
就寫FB寫到每天晚上都在寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
8031.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
8033.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
寫到我的同事跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
8033.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
8035.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
你不要再寫因為人家以為你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
8035.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
8037.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
沒事幹後來你不敢寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
8037.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
8039.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
只是舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
8039.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
8041.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
其實你們應該對我們文化部稍微小小的讚美一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
8041.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
8043.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
譬如金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
8043.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
8045.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
各位看到金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
8045.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
8047.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
辦這麼好是因為我們剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
8047.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
8049.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
在保留在影視音裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
8049.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
8051.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
有百分之被砍掉的百分之六十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
8051.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
8053.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
還有百分之四十的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
8053.45 |
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8055.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
我們就可以把金曲獎做這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
8055.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
8057.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
你只要給我們一點點錢我們就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
8057.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
8059.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
做得蠻好國片票房各位看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
8059.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
8061.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
今年上半年的票牌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
8061.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
8063.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
已經遠遠達到去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
8063.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
8065.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
國片票房整個都起飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
8065.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
8067.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
各位看到在文學獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
8067.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
8069.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
我們已經突破得到國際大獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
8069.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
8071.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
所以我在這裡非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
8071.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
8073.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
所有文化部的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
8073.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
8075.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
在這樣的預算下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
8075.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
8077.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
8077.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
8079.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
所以這是第一個謝謝所有讚美我們的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
8079.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
8081.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
其實我們沒有那麼差 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
8081.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
8083.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
第二因為我們預算沒有審 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
8083.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
8085.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
所以我們今年沒有辦法動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
8085.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
8087.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
任何一毛錢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
8087.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
8089.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
美宣費可是我們還是上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
8089.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
8091.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
非常努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
8092.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
8094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
第三有一個誤會就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
8094.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
8096.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
美宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
8096.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
8098.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
是買特定媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
8098.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
8100.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
跟那個等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
8100.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
8102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
其實完全誤會因為美宣費是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
8102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
8104.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
編的所有一整年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
8104.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
8106.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
需要宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
8106.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
8108.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
宣導的那個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
8108.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
8110.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
包括剛剛講到文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
8110.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
8112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
黃牛文博你不給我們錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
8112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
8114.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
我們就宣導的就變得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
8114.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
8116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
很沒有力道所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
8116.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
8118.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
大家是一個完全誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
8118.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
8120.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
那我想請王次講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
8120.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
8122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
一下我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
8122.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
8124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
這個錢其實還有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
8124.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
8126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
很多的錢是讚美去拼在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
8126.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
8128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
如果你不給我們的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
8128.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
8130.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
我們真的是非常辛苦謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
8132.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
8134.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
各位好我大概就直接補充一下我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
8134.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
8136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
這筆經費的內容這筆經費大概有幾個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
8136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
8138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
第一個它是全 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
8138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
8140.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
部本部全部各 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
8140.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
8142.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
各個單業務單位所需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
8142.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
8144.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
每一天都在這一筆所以為什麼會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
8144.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
8146.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
聽到很多不同的項目是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
8146.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
8148.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
它包括了所有的業務師不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
8148.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
8150.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
是在文知師文創師影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
8150.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
8152.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
師人文師全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
8152.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
8154.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
一發師全部都在裡面所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
8154.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
8156.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
他會有什麼活動呢他會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
8156.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
8158.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
大家的活動只要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
8158.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
8160.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
辦活動他就會動用這一 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
8160.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
8162.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
筆沒宣費所以沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
8162.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
8164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
是做什麼呢是做活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
8164.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
8166.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
本身的宣傳所以沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
8166.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
8168.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
的目標非常清楚譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
8168.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
8170.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
我們辦社區營造我們要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
8170.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
8172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
頒發獎項我們要辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
8172.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
8174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
文博會要辦時裝周 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
8174.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
8176.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
要辦書展所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
8176.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
8178.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
的內容都在這一筆費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
8178.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
8180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
裡面那第二件事是呢這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
8180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
8182.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
費用裡面除了包括部本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
8182.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
8184.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
原來的業務經費以外它也 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
8184.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
8186.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
包括了興建的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
8186.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
8188.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
管社的宣傳譬如說我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
8188.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
8190.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
今年多了國家鐵道博物館未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
8190.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
8192.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
多了國家兒童兒衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
8192.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
8194.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
館多了國漫館國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
8194.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
8196.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
漫畫博物館這些管社的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
8196.36 |
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8198.36 |
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活動跟籌備也全部來自於這一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
8198.36 |
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8200.36 |
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沒宣費用第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
8200.36 |
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8202.36 |
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剛剛提到的獎項的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
8202.36 |
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8204.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
我們所有的獎項都要靠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
8204.36 |
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8206.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
這個宣傳宣傳的意思是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
8206.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
8208.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
要徵案吧要跟大家說我們要頒這個獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
8208.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
8210.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
請你們推薦請你們報名 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
8210.36 |
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8212.36 |
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這些也都在這個沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
8212.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
8214.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
裡面而在金曲獎的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
8214.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
8216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
為什麼今年金曲獎有費用是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
8216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
8218.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
因為他是附屬單位附屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
8218.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
8220.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
有保留百分之四十的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
8220.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
8222.36 |
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所以金曲獎的確拿了那去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
8222.36 |
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8224.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
沒有刪掉的那附屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
8224.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
8226.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
的百分之四十沒宣費進行宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
8226.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
8228.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
但是問題是我們今年下半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
8228.36 |
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8230.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
還有金鐘獎金馬獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
8230.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
8232.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
這些獎項也還要宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
8232.97 |
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8234.97 |
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所以如果沒有通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
8234.97 |
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8236.97 |
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今年下半年就那是百分之四十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
8236.97 |
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8238.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
基本上就在上半年已經用完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
8238.97 |
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8240.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
所以我們其實是需要這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
8240.97 |
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8242.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
沒宣費的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
8242.97 |
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8244.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
第三件事是委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
8244.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
8246.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
關心的就是說我們有沒有拿這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
8246.97 |
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8248.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
筆費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
8248.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
8250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
去採購特定的沒宣團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
8250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
8252.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
那基本上是這樣因為他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
8252.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
8254.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
辦理的單位完全不同活動也完全不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
8254.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
8256.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
所以他沒有集中採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
8256.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
8258.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
或者媒體採購的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
8258.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
8260.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
因為自從這個媒體不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
8260.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
8262.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
禁止政府做新聞置入之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
8262.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
8264.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
我們的採購的分的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
8264.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
8266.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
就是分散的那尤其 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
8266.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
8268.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
現在社群基本上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
8268.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
8270.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
一個非常重要的關鍵所以大家會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
8270.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
8272.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
我們做很多什麼做很多圖卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
8272.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
8274.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
然後做很多點閱率的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
8274.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
8276.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
這些採購意思就是說讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
8276.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
8278.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
透過演算法比較有機會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
8278.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
8280.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
我們各項政策的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
8280.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
8282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
跟活動本身的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
8282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
8284.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
所以他的目的仍然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
8284.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
8286.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
做跟民眾相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
8286.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
8288.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
活動宣傳包括像 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
8288.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
8290.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
黃牛包括像頒獎這一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
8290.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
8292.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
跟民眾生活攸關的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
8292.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
8294.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
那最後一點是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
8294.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
8296.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
國外的部分也在這一筆沒宣費裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
8296.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
8298.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
大家都提到去年的大阪 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
8298.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
8300.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
市博但是大家可能不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
8300.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
8302.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
我們今年其實有辦歐洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
8302.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
8304.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
台灣文化年那為什麼大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
8304.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
8306.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
不知道因為我們沒有宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
8306.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
8308.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
那我們只能透過既有的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
8308.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
8310.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
賣既有的網絡跟既有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
8310.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
8312.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
的活動的人去宣傳但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
8312.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
8314.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
很明顯可以看到他的宣傳力道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
8314.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
8316.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
其實差別很大所以仍然非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
8316.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
8320.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
希望委員可以支持我們這一筆沒宣的費用以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
8324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
8326.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
好對不起我再確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
8326.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
8328.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
所以你的沒宣費到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
8328.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8330.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
沒有去動嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8330.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8332.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
沒有去做任何的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8332.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8334.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
本部的部分沒有因為去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8334.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8336.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
三到零那因為今年動之的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8336.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8338.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
預算是以去年的預算為基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8338.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8340.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
所以像我們最近剛辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8340.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8342.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
很好的這個金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8342.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8344.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
你也沒使用這個費用沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8344.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
有我剛有解釋了金曲獎是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8346.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8348.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
他是附屬單位附屬單位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8348.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8350.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
沒宣費去年三百分之六十 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8350.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8352.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
剩百分之四十所以金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8352.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8354.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
是用附屬單位的40% |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8354.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8356.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
所以跟這一個也無關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8356.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8358.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
沒有關係這是不本部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8358.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8360.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
不本部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8361.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8363.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
有委員要問問題嗎沒有我要繼續問喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8365.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8367.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8368.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8370.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8370.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
沒有去年大概多少國片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8374.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
上映今年大概多少國片 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8374.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8376.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8379.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8381.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
沒關係沒關係你慢慢了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8381.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8383.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
那第二個跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8384.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8386.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
我們文化部請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8386.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8388.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
你剛說真案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8388.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
有需要用到這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8390.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
沒宣費來廣遭真案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8392.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8394.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
對吧如果辦獎項的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8394.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8396.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
任何的獎項跟補助都需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8396.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8398.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
透過沒宣宣導嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8398.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8400.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
對嘛所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8400.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8402.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
也會用到這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8402.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8404.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
的一個真案沒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8404.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8406.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
所以也跟其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8406.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8408.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
補助當然不會我說真案啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8408.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8410.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
補助獎項不會用到補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8410.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8412.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
但是會用到沒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8412.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8414.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
來宣導有這樣子的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8415.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8417.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
不是補助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8417.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8419.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
補助案就是歸補助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8419.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8421.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
補助案沒有沒宣費的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8422.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8424.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8424.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8426.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
待會你那個資料要再補一下 |
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8426.25 |
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好 |
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8427.43 |
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8429.43 |
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好 |
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8428.34 |
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8430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
那有沒有委員要再提出問題 |
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8433 |
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8435 |
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好那我們就請委員提案 |
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8440.87 |
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8442.87 |
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好我的主張是 |
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8442.87 |
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8444.87 |
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趙烈給文化部門必要的 |
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8444.87 |
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8446.87 |
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資源去進行相關的 |
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8446.87 |
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8448.87 |
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媒體宣傳不管是對內 |
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8448.87 |
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8450.87 |
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進行政策的推廣或是 |
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8450.87 |
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8452.87 |
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對外來宣揚台灣的文化力 |
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8452.87 |
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8454.87 |
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我支持趙烈 |
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8456.12 |
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8458.12 |
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我也支持趙烈 |
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8458.12 |
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8460.12 |
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建議保留 |
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8461.12 |
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8463.12 |
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來陳佩儀委員 |
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8491.12 |
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8493.12 |
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那一看起來沒宣費 |
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8495.12 |
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也花了很多在這兩個館 |
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8495.12 |
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8497.12 |
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的籌備前期 |
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8499.12 |
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那因為我自己一直很關心這兩個館 |
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8499.12 |
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8501.12 |
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所以我剛剛聽到的時候我其實還蠻壓抑 |
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8501.12 |
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8503.12 |
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就謝謝文化部這麼用心 |
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8503.12 |
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8505.12 |
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在這兩個館籌備前期花了這麼多 |
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8505.12 |
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8507.12 |
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精力跟預算還有 |
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8507.12 |
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8509.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
時間去辦這樣的活動 |
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8509.12 |
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8511.12 |
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所以我支持趙烈 |
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8513.15 |
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8515.15 |
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這個主席 |
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8515.15 |
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8517.15 |
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我也是希望說文化部這筆美宣費 |
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8517.15 |
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8519.15 |
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因為如同我剛剛講的包括台北書展 |
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8519.15 |
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8521.15 |
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包括台北時裝週 |
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8521.15 |
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8523.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
包括我們打擊黃牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8523.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8525.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
演唱會的票詐騙情侶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8525.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8527.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
這些的宣傳都需要這些 |
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8527.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8529.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
美宣費那剛剛其實我們不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8529.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8531.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
黨派的委員都針對個別關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8531.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8533.15 |
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的案件希望可以來了解 |
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8533.15 |
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8535.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
文化部到底需要做哪些 |
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8535.15 |
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8537.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
宣傳的這些作為跟計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8537.15 |
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8539.15 |
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那因為現在提案的委員 |
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8539.15 |
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8541.15 |
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翁曉玲委員他不在所以我還是要講 |
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8541.15 |
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8543.15 |
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一下因為翁曉玲委員他提案是通三 |
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8543.15 |
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8545.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
文化部的文宣費 |
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8545.15 |
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8547.15 |
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是要刪除到零 |
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8547.15 |
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8549.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
那因為他這個提案不只針對文化部 |
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8549.15 |
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8551.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
外交部的美宣費也被他提案 |
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8551.15 |
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8553.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
要刪掉一億也是刪除到零 |
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8553.15 |
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8555.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
行政院的文宣費美宣費他也要刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8555.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
到零我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8557.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8559.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
我們要借鏡之前的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8559.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8561.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
就是我們審查預算可以針對 |
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8561.15 |
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8563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
個別的項目大家有意見都可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8563.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8565.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
討論但是如果是用通三 |
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8565.15 |
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8567.15 |
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的方式等於是你沒有看他 |
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8567.15 |
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8569.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
實際上的計畫是要做什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8569.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
這個我覺得不太符合我們教文會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8571.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8573.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
平常這個討論其實大家都針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8573.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
個案大家各自關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
我覺得都理性的監督討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8579.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
這都是可以的所以還是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8579.15 |
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8581.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
確實這些我們剛文化部提到這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8581.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8583.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
計畫我們希望他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8583.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8585.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
美宣今年的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8585.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8587.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
預算給你們但是你們要更加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8587.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
加緊加強的來做因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8589.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8591.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
這每一個事情像台灣的文學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8591.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8593.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
我們才在國際發光發熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8593.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
都需要文化部在做我們這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8595.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
創作者的後盾要拜託文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8597.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8599.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8598.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8600.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
我們現場那個冷氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8600.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8602.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
突然變得很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8603.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8605.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
會吵到委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8605.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8607.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
維持正常好不好好像開大冷氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8607.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8609.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
是要趕客人一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8609.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8611.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
好來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8611.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8613.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
秀芭委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8641.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
這麼豐富的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
交流的這些相關的內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
內容呈現但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
在國內他們事先 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
就是要出國之前他是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8653.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
的那他們在講這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8653.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8655.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
事情的時候我也覺得很疑惑 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8655.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8657.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
但是剛好今天沈玉舜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8657.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8659.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
說聽到您在說明才知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8659.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8661.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
其實我們這些相關的這些文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8661.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8663.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
上的交流一直都有只是因為 |
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8663.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8665.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
我們沒有美宣費我們沒辦法宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8665.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8667.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
甚至我們自己國人要到當地 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8667.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8669.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
去旅遊的時候看到了才知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8669.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8671.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
原來我們文化部有做這些事情可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8671.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8673.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
因為我們沒有辦法去宣傳他 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8673.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8675.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
也沒有辦法讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8675.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8677.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
國人去邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8677.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8679.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
國際的友人你們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8679.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8681.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
來參加可以來參訪所以這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8681.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8683.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
非常的可惜因為文化部 |
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8683.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8685.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
其實在做的各個面向的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8685.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8687.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
的交流一直都有在持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8687.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8689.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
但是礙於沒有美宣費的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8689.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8691.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
像部長自己都寫臉書寫到 |
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8691.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
大家以為說部長你閒閒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8695.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
沒事為什麼自己一直寫臉書因為沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8695.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8697.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
辦法沒有地方可以沒有辦法去宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8697.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
沒有經費所以我希望說同仁們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
可以看到說文化部 |
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8701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8703.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
真的是非常認真非常努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8703.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8705.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
來做他們的職責在他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8705.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
業務上都非常的認真 |
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8707.93 |
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8709.93 |
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能夠支持能夠把這一筆的 |
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8709.93 |
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8711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
美宣費能夠全數 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
照列以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8716.84 |
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8718.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
參選眾委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8719 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8721 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
我再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8721 |
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8723 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
我是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8723 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8725 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
那個美宣會那剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8725 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8727 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
所有委員所提的我也支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8727 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8729 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
但是基於監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8729 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8731 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
的一個一個職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8731 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8733 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
我覺得我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8733 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8735 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
還是要求文化部能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8735 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8737 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
提出一張總表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8737 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8739 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
把每一個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8739 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8741 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
的一個政策的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8741 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8743 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
還有金額採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8743 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8745 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
採購還有尾班的方式投判 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8745 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8747 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
的平台還有目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8747 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8749 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
所以我還是要受眾跟KPI的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8749 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8751 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
一個驗收把它做成一個表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8751 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8753 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
然後送到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8753 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8755 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
我們這個委員會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8755 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8757 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
讓我們了解文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8757 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8759 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
一個所有的美宣會的一個會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8759 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8761 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
所以我在這裡還是堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8761 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8763 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
動一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8765.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8767.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
好還有沒有其他委員有建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8767.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8769.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
剛剛羅市長委員有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8771.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8773.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
不好意思拿麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8774.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8776.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
我覺得今天也討論兩個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8776.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8778.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
既然沒辦法達成公司就保留吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8778.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8780.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8780.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8782.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
那再來柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8788.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
因為我們已經討論兩個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8790.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
文化部本身來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8792.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8794.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
我當初就是提到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8794.04 |
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8796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
預算中心它認為跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8796.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
過去比較起來它是增加非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8798.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8800.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
多文化部也來跟我 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8800.04 |
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8802.04 |
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溝通然後你也提出剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8802.04 |
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8804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
我所提到的這個部分剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
次長也特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
我覺得理性的監督來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8808.04 |
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8810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
文化部有非常多包括我們等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
要討論的包括你剛剛說的影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
文化司還有包括我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
可能更多的那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
沒宣費就是放在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
剛剛所提到幾個重要的大展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
然後也是提供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
我們大家宣傳的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
然後因為文化部提供出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
說我改成主決議但是我剛剛聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
到了這個蔡村雄委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
他也特別提到要離出的總表 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
然後也認為善盡一個監督的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
我想是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8837.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
做一個凍結上面的一個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8841.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
讓這個總表裡面讓委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8841.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8843.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
更清楚的了解我覺得這是一個監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8843.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8845.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
預算上所必要的那至於經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8845.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8847.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
多少額多少我覺得大家可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8847.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8849.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
這是我的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8853.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8857.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
好那有意見的分歧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8864.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8866.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
主席因為其實剛剛我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8866.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8868.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
幾位委員都有逐一表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8868.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8870.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
我們的意見我還是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8870.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8872.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
多數的委員是希望能夠照例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8872.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8874.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
但也尊重委員希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8874.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8876.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
再看到進一步的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8876.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8878.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
所以用凍結的方式但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8878.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8880.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
要跟村首委員拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8880.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8882.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
因為這一筆四千七百 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8882.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8884.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
多萬你如果凍結了一千就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8884.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8886.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
五分之一四分之一了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8886.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8888.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
是不是我們著凍兩百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8888.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8890.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
三百萬沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8890.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8892.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
但是我覺得是要讓他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8892.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8894.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
能夠合宜還是能夠運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8894.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8896.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
鼓勵大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8896.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8898.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
的內鬥想方設法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8898.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8900.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
去補沒有預算的缺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8900.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8902.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
那既然只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8902.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8904.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
善盡監督要提供完整的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8904.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8906.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
是不是兩百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8907.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8909.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
可以是大家可以接受的數字呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8909.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8911.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
看看部長的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8911.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8913.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8913.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8915.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
我我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8915.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8917.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
那個那是將到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8917.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8919.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
四百一成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8920.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8922.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
總是要一點監督的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8922.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8924.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
那部長你清楚嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8924.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8926.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
我很支持文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8926.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8928.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
所以文化部所有的活動我都去參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8928.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8930.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
村首委員你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8930.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8932.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
你四百我兩百那我們三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8932.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8934.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8934.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8936.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
讓他們可以做上我們可以達到監督的力量 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8936.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
看到我們想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8938.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8940.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
解讀的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8940.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8942.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
讓這個進度趕快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8942.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8944.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
走啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8944.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8946.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
我們就達成共識希望凍結三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8946.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
提供資料使得動支 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8948.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
提供書面資料使得動支 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8950.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8952.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8951.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8953.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
好現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8953.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8955.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
因為還是有委員提出不同的意見喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8956.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8958.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
所以我們基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8958.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8960.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8965.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8967.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
我們都講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8967.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8969.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
其實我們也不同意我們是希望照列的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8969.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8971.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
報告主席我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8971.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8973.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
這邊的委員都是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8973.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8975.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
照列的但是為了尊重村首委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8975.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8977.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
然後剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8977.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8979.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
那個知恩委員也說所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8979.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8981.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
採凍結的方式嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8981.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8983.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
所以金額也已經有個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8983.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
凍結三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8987.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
我覺得這才是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8987.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8989.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
尊重彼此的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8989.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8991.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
對不起現在再麻煩巫師要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8991.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8993.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
您說多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8995.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8997.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
個人是希望照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8997.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8999.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
但是剛剛尊重大家我們就是協調出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8999.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
9001.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
跟蔡村首委員跟知恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
9001.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
9003.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
是三百萬的凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
9003.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
9005.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
提出書面資料使得動支 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
9008.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
9010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
我覺得還是要尊重提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
9010.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
9012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
所以那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
9012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
9014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
召委要不要先休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
9014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
9016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
問問汪曉雲委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
9016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
9018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
9018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
9020.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
他如果真的這麼在意他就應該全程在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
9020.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
9022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
所有今天朝野的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
9022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
9024.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
教文委員都在這裡兩個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
9024.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
9026.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
為什麼不尊重在場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
9026.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
9028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
為什麼不尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
9028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
9030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
在場的所有教文本委的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
9030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
9032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
我們經過這麼多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
9032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
9034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
剛剛文化部也做了說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
9034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
9036.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
那主席你為什麼乾脆不表決呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
9036.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
9038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
為什麼還要等提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
9038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
9040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
而且兩個連署的委員也在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
9040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
9042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
教文委員會照往例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
9042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
9044.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
預算的部分很少在表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
9044.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
9046.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
主席教文委員會照往例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
9046.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
9048.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
只要是提案人不在通常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
9048.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
9050.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
您都照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
9050.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
9052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
我們昨天審總預算也都是這樣的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
9052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
9054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
對不對主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
9054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
9056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
提案委員不在就沒有處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
9056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
9058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
但是在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
9058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
9060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
那如果你要說完全提案委員都不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
9060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
9062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
昨天臨時提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
9062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
9064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
提案委員也不在啊我們簽署的也都還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
9064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
9066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
也還是處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
9066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
9068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
那我基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
9068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
9070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
我很簡單現在已經說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
9070.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
9072.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
有提案委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
9072.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
9074.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
要三百萬我尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
9074.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
9076.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
那還有沒有其他委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
9076.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
9078.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
9078.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
9080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
因為我們沒有表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
9080.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
9082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
我們基本上是共識決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
9082.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
9084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
所以基本上我要問一下安文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
9084.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
9086.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
沒有意見的話我們就要照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
9086.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
9088.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
剛剛提的三百萬凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
9091.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
9093.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
我有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
9094.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
9096.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
這個就不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
9098.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
9100.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
主席可以先休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
9100.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
9102.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
我們就先休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
9102.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
9104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
我們都會委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
9104.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
9106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
因為我們是共識決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
9106.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
9108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
不是多數決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
9108.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
9110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
共識決就是大家的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
9110.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
9112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
不能排除某些委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
9112.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
9114.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
你不要有趣意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
9114.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
9116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
講完話就走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
9116.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
9118.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
大家想想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
9118.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
9120.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
他都沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
9120.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
9122.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
還有第二輪可以去討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
9122.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
9124.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
讓主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
9124.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
9126.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
去跟提案委員來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
9126.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
9128.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
抱歉我要捍衛本港委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
9128.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
9130.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
今天的提案跟爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
9130.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
9134.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
那請主席休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
9134.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
9136.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
跟國小委員溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
9136.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
9138.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
有這麼困難嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
9138.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
9140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
那如果大家溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
9140.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
9142.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
為什麼要去找 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
9142.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
9144.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
為什麼要去找 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
9144.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
9146.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
如果他真的這麼在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
9146.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
9148.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
這件事情在這裡吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
9148.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
9150.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
我們都已經好不容易討論到這樣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
9150.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
9152.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
他為什麼自己快要自首表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
9152.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
9154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
可是以往的慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
9154.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
9156.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
現在教文委員都坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
9156.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
9158.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
就因為他 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
9158.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
9160.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
我們不希望打破以往慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
9160.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
9162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
所以目前為止我們先休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
9162.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
9164.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
提案委員不在是不予處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
9164.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
9166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
我再說一次以往的慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
9166.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
9168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
叫做如果提案的委員不在是不予處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
9168.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
9170.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
可是今天所有朝野的教文委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
9170.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
9172.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
都坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
9172.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
9174.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
主席你就決定採用一個人的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
9174.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
9176.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
這不叫共識嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
9176.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
9178.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
共識叫做剛剛已經三百萬凍結主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
9213.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
9215.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
村村委員藍冬及其 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
9268.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
9270.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
9274.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
9276.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
你們家一就來啊一不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
9276.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
9278.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
兩位小姐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
9348.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
9352.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
他這樣下去我們真的會被人家想了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
9352.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
9354.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
他會一直這樣打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
9354.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
9356.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
我說如果他真的這麼打你來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
9356.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
9358.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
你怎麼可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
9358.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
9360.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
他一定會打 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
9360.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
9362.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
9362.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
9364.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
9364.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
9366.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
9371.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
9373.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
9373.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
9375.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
9375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
9377.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
9377.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
9379.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
因為他講的是後面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
9379.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
9381.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
現在講的是主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
9382.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
9384.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
還有光源電視他們以前會在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
9384.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
9386.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
我想要在這一關去考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
9387.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
9389.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
這案子會不會顯得更難 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
9389.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
9391.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
因為他凍結了我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
9391.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
9393.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
他就打你來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
9395.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
9397.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
這樣我會來得及嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
9398.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
9400.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
9415.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
9417.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
9417.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
9419.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
9433.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
9435.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
9447.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
9449.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
兩間故港的成立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
9449.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
9451.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
兩間故港的成立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
9454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
9456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
9461.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
9463.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
9464.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
9466.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
如果我又有增加會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
9466.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
9468.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
第一次會有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
9468.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
9470.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
那是交通管理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
9470.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
9472.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
那就是陳樹月台的一個現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
9474.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
9476.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
不知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
9476.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
9478.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
我們都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
9478.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
9480.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
不然他管他別人的情緒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
9480.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
9482.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
這樣說我在板橋我就不看板橋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
9482.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
9484.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
9484.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
9486.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
看到中國去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
9486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
9488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
看這條拉過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
9488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
9490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
看這條拉過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
9490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
9492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
9492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
9494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
現場還不一定看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
9494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
9496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
9497.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
9499.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
9504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
9506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
全部的黑茶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
9506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
9508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
全部黑茶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
9510.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
9512.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
因為我剛才是我的女婿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
9512.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
9514.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
剛才是我的小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
9514.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
9516.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
我小孩來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
9516.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
9518.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
那天我們就討論消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
9522.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
9524.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
他來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
9524.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
9526.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
我小孩來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
9526.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
9528.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
來了好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
9528.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
9530.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
9530.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
9532.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
主長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
9532.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
9534.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
歡迎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
9534.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
9536.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
跟他談生意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
9536.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
9538.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
9538.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
9540.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
9542.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
9544.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
9579.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
9581.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
9581.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
9583.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
今天真的很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
9583.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
9585.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
還有電影的故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
9585.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
9587.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
還有公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
9587.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
9589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
台灣公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
9589.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
9591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
我們可能再多一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
9591.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
9593.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
因為我們要再生的話要多兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
9593.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
9595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
9595.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
9597.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
浪費人民的公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
9599.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
9601.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
我們想找一個人進場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
9602.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
9604.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
機會是一個圓形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
9605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
9607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
為什麼他們要跟你溝通的時候你不跟他們溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
9607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
9609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
為什麼他們要跟你溝通的時候你不跟他們溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
9609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
9611.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
是叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
9611.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
9613.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
他們沒有跟你們辦公室約嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
9613.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
9615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
確定都沒有約 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
9627.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
9629.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
文化部也不屑溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
9630.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
9632.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
文化部也不屑溝通嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
9632.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
9634.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
所以你們要部長等級才可以去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
9634.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
9636.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
所以你們要部長等級才可以去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
9636.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
9638.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
要部長等級嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
9638.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
9640.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
因為你就複製貼上什麼要刪就刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
9640.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
9642.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
因為你就複製貼上什麼要刪就刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
9642.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
9644.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
你不是只有刪文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
9644.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
9646.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
你要不要去看你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
9646.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
9648.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
你會三運算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
9648.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
9650.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
你不是只有三運算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
9650.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
9652.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
剛剛文化部在說明你人有在現場嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
9652.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
9654.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
文化部都說四千多萬什麼花你現在在聽嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
9654.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
9656.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
今天是北海道月神案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
9656.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
9658.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
我們等一下請文化部再報告一次給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
9658.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
9660.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
這些沒學費用到了哪裡去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
9660.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
9662.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
報告說你也在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
9662.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
9664.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
整個教文院你這個案子討論兩個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
9664.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
9666.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
請問你有在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
9666.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
9668.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
我們等一下讓文化部講給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
9668.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
9670.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
我們等一下讓文化部講給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
9670.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
9672.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
你們是立委嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
9672.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
9674.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
我們當然是立委啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
9674.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
9676.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
當然是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
9853.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
9855.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
9855.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
你是大屆人殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9857.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
你不知天上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9859.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9861.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
是非法思想的文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9861.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9863.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
濫用公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9863.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
你的標準在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9865.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
哪裏造成負面分擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9867.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
你可以提案質 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9869.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
你可以明擺公式講出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9871.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9873.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
你可以講出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9873.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9875.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
你沒有一條具體的講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9875.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9877.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
你沒有一條具體的講出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9877.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9879.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
你全部都是用一個非常rough的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9879.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9881.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
所以我就問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9881.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9883.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
你覺得哪一條是不對你就點出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9883.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9885.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
可是你到目前為止我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9885.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
沒有看到歐委員點出哪一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9887.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9889.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
可是剛剛所有坐在這裡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9889.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9891.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
只要認證都可以聽出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9891.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9893.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
文化部的報告已經講了沒學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9893.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9895.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
部分部的沒學費四千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9895.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9897.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
是用在哪些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9897.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9899.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
連金曲獎部分剛剛連部長都說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9899.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9901.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
可是很可惜歐委員不在現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
10055.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
10057.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
你跟陸委會你都是同一 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
10088.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
10090.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
10089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
10091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
你到現在沒有提出來耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
10108.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
10110.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
跟委員報告一下在等部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
10110.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
10112.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
部長現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
10112.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
10114.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
應該在洗手間好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
10114.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
10116.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
所以不是我們不開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
10116.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
10118.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
是等部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
10146.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
10148.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
10152.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
10154.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
好現在繼續改位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
10155.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
10157.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
好請多指教委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
10157.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
10159.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
10188.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
10190.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
請部長說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
10218.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
10220.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
10220.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
10222.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
10222.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
10224.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
10224.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
10226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
10226.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
10228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
10228.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
10230.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
10230.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
10232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
10232.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
10234.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
10234.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
10236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
10236.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
10238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
10238.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
10240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
10240.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
10242.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
10242.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
10244.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
10244.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
10246.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
10240.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
10242.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
歐小林委員完再羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
10243.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
10245.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
10245.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
10247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
剛剛部長自己也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
10247.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
10249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
在去年沒學費一毛錢都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
10249.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
10251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
情況之下他們都做得這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
10251.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
10253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
所以這更讓我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
10253.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
10255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
既然去年都能夠做得這麼好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
10255.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
10257.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
那麼為什麼今年還要花 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
10257.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
10259.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
四千七百三十八萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
10259.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
10261.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
去做沒學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
10261.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
10263.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
我知道其實部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
10263.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
10265.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
也很認真地想要為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
10265.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
10267.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
文化做好的這個宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
10267.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
10269.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
做沒學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
10269.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
10271.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
那麼在座的這個民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
10271.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
10273.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
每一個人都可以幫忙做沒學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
10273.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
10275.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
那既然是如此的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
10275.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
10277.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
那麼為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
10277.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
10279.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
非得一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
10279.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
10281.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
要花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
10281.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
10283.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
去做沒學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
10283.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
10285.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
要這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
10284.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
10286.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
花大筆錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
10286.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
10288.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
剛剛羅志祥委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
10288.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
10290.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
他本來他是簡列兩千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
10290.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
10292.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
那我是全山兩千多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
10292.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
10294.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
那麼如果說我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
10294.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
10296.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
要給文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
10296.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
10298.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
一些鼓勵一些肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
10298.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
10300.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
讓部長少寫幾篇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
10300.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
10302.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
這個臉書貼文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
10302.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
10304.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
那我也可以某種程度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
10304.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
10306.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
10306.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
10308.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
我本來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
10308.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
10310.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
全山四千七百三十八萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
10313.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
10315.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
那我們就三個四千七百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
10315.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
10317.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
讓這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
10317.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
10319.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
這個少辛苦一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
10319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
10321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
10322.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
10324.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
活動都已經包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
10324.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
10326.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
這活動的文宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
10326.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
10328.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
都已經是包含在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
10328.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
10330.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
各個補助的項目裡面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
10330.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
10332.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
所以即便是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
10332.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
10334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
你文化部沒有針對金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
10334.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
10336.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
金鐘獎去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
10336.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
10338.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
行銷可是我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
10338.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
10340.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
台視等等這些媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
10340.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
10342.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
都還是有宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
10344.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
10346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
所以這並不影響到你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
10346.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
10348.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
文化部的媒學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
10349.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
10351.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
10351.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
10353.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
請不要干擾別人的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
10353.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
10355.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
10355.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
10357.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
請不要干擾別人的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
10357.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
10359.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
10359.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
10361.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
請不要干擾別人的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
10361.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
10363.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
10363.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
10365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
請不要干擾別人的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
10365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
10367.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
他繼續發怒啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
10367.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
10369.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
你要發言你待會舉手發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
10369.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
10371.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
你不要干擾別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
10371.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
10373.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
你的格調就是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
10373.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
10375.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
我也很佩服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
10375.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
10377.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
我也沒有辦法我就是不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
10377.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
10379.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
至少吳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
10379.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
10381.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
從頭到尾也有說出一個具體的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
10381.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
10383.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
把美用比較高級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
10383.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
10385.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
吳小林 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
10385.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
10387.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
都是看仔細 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
10387.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
10389.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
剛剛羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
10389.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
10391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
又提了他的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
10391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
10393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
我想我們就可以綜合一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
10393.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
10395.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
我剛要舉手囉主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
10396.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
10398.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
好 羅志祥委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
10398.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
10400.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
不好意思我剛剛有宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
10400.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
10402.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
我剛剛有先宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
10402.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
10404.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
我先講幾個點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
10404.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
10406.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
第一個我的原則當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
10406.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
10408.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
我尊重提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
10408.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
10410.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
所以汪小林委員的提案必須尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
10410.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
10412.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
那第二個我也有自己的提案在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
10412.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
10414.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
雖然汪小林委員不是教文的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
10414.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
10416.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
我們教文委員當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
10416.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
10418.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
有一些意見的表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
10418.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
10420.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
我們剛剛也做了很多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
10420.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
10422.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
但是即便汪小林委員他的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
10422.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
10424.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
今天在這邊就算不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
10424.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
10426.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
還是有我的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
10426.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
10428.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
第七案可以作為一個處理的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
10428.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
10430.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
10430.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
10432.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
因為鑑於剛上午已經討論了非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
10432.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
10434.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
我這邊有一個具體的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
10434.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
10436.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
就是因為還有第二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
10436.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
10438.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
所以我可以把 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
10438.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
10440.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
這個簡列兩千五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
10440.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
10442.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
先把它改成凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
10442.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
10444.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
兩千五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
10444.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
10446.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
然後接下來我再請文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
10446.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
10448.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
你們說過你們有總表過來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
10448.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
10450.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
總表過來跟我溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
10450.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
10452.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
還有第二輪的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
10452.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
10454.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
跟文化部繼續溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
10454.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
10456.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
所以現在先 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
10456.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
10458.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
這個案子我是有這樣的提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
10458.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
10460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
那如果說文化部還是有什麼意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
10460.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
10462.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
也歡迎提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
10462.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
10464.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
因為我剛剛看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
10464.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
10466.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
不管是柯志銘委員蔡春柔委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
10466.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
10468.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
但是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
10468.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
10470.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
先講我的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
10470.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
10472.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
不管怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
10472.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
10474.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
三百兩千五百萬你都可以來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
10474.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
10476.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
因為我就是沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
10476.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
10478.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
剛剛我們討論的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
10478.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
10480.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
剛剛講幾個原則公信力跟透明度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
10480.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
10482.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
抱歉公信力我還沒被說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
10482.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
10484.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
原則兩案雖然是別的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
10484.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
10486.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
但累積的是文化部公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
10486.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
10488.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
但是第二個透明度的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
10488.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
10490.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
既然你們要補那把透明度補清楚以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
10490.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
10492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
我們再來溝通嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
10492.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
10494.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
那我剛剛看到今天柯志銘委員跟蔡春柔委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
10494.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
10496.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
他是從文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
10496.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
10498.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
所謂的運作的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
10498.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
10500.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
所以他給了所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
10500.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
10502.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
凍結三百萬的這個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
10502.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
10504.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
那這個出發點我覺得也有他的道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
10504.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
10506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
10506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
10508.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
也不能說因此汪小林委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
10508.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
10510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
出發點沒有道理或我的出發點沒有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
10510.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
10512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
所以如果大家覺得可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
10512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
10514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
我們在凍結數字上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
10514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
10516.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
大家可以提出一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
10516.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
10518.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
那我也請文化部先來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
10518.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
10520.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
跟汪小林委員的溝通跟我的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
10520.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
10522.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
因為終究還有第二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
10522.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
10524.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
所以即便說今天教文委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
10524.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
10526.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
我們這邊第一輪處理的話你本來就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
10526.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
10528.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
還是要溝通以上我的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
10528.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
10530.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
那大家提供參考謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
10534.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
10536.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
好陳佩儀委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
10564.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
10566.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
10594.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
10596.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
雖然過去教文委員會的慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
10596.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
10598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
不一定要表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
10598.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
10600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
大家可以協商大家可以有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
10600.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
10602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
但是今天這個題目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
10602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
10604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
看起來我認為不會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
10604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
10606.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
共識還有我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
10606.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
10608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
過去的立法院也從來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
10608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
10610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
不會有一個不休會的這一屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
10610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
10612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
而這一屆在張其凱 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
10612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
10614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
委員證實下是為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
10614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
10616.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
幫很多在野黨委員開 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
10616.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
10618.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
司法保護傘所以開啟了從來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
10618.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
10620.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
沒有的慣例叫做從來不休會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
10620.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
10622.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
既然院會本體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
10622.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
10624.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
可以打破很多的慣例我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
10624.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
10626.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
教文也可以打破慣例所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
10626.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
10628.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
再次重申我要求表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
10630.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
10632.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
這邊好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
10631.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
10633.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
我剛先舉手了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
10634.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
10636.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
10635.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
10637.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
在你之前那個郭一行有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
10637.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
10639.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
不好意思那是上一階段的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
10639.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
10641.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
我剛剛都有在注意看郭一行委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
10641.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
10643.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
這邊其實我也 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
10643.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
10645.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
10645.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
10647.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
就是剛剛陳佩儀委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
10647.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
10649.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
雖然這個在教文其實我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
10649.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
10651.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
表決這件事情幾乎是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
10651.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
10653.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
從來沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
10653.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
10655.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
但是我想既然大家對於這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
10655.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
10657.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
有這麼大的一個分歧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
10657.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
10659.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
那我是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
10659.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
10661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
要求也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
10661.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
10663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
召委來才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
10663.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
10665.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
如果有異議的話依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
10665.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
10667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
議事規則第32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
10667.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
10669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
我們有表示異議那是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
10669.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
10671.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
可以就進行表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
10671.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
10673.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
進行表決那 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
10673.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
10675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
我的主張是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
10675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
10677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
就是召列 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
10677.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
10679.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
那如果大家覺得要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
10679.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
10681.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
召列有異議那我們就來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
10681.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
10683.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
表決可以嗎好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
10687.81 |
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謝謝 |
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10691.64 |
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10693.64 |
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對啊 |
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10693.64 |
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那個秀二委員因為你又是在 |
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10695.64 |
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10697.64 |
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翁曉琳後面了 |
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10697.64 |
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10699.64 |
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沒有在她舉之前我就先 |
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10699.64 |
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10701.64 |
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好讓你先讓你先 |
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10702.35 |
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10704.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
謝謝主席喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
10704.35 |
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10706.35 |
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那其實剛才文化部跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
10706.35 |
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10708.35 |
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我們委員們的討論 |
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10708.35 |
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10710.35 |
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關於美宣費的運用業務宣導費的運用 |
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10710.35 |
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10712.35 |
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其實大家剛才已經有討論過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
10712.35 |
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10714.35 |
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但是剛才翁委員不在 |
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10714.35 |
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10716.35 |
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然後呢我 |
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10716.35 |
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10718.35 |
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在聽翁委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
10718.35 |
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10720.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
發言跟部長的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
10720.35 |
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10722.35 |
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我覺得這中間有一個誤解在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
10722.35 |
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10724.35 |
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部長說 |
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10724.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
10726.35 |
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我們去年的美宣費都被刪掉了 |
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10726.35 |
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10728.35 |
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但是我們依然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
10728.35 |
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10730.35 |
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用心的把業務做得很好 |
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10730.35 |
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10732.35 |
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您的很好是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
10732.35 |
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10734.35 |
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你們很用心你們態度很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
10734.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
10736.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
雖然沒有美宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
10736.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
10738.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
你們還是努力的不管是去募款的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
10738.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
10740.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
不管是在各方面 |
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10740.35 |
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10742.35 |
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或是你們自己本身去宣傳相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
10742.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
10744.35 |
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業務你們的很好是用心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
10744.35 |
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10746.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
在做到很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
10746.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
10748.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
但是翁委員的誤解是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
10748.35 |
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10750.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
沒有美宣費你們一樣能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
10750.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
10752.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
沒有美宣費你們一樣把業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
10752.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
10754.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
做得很圓滿他的誤解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
10754.35 |
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10756.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
在於你所說的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
10756.35 |
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10758.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
很好他說的是沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
10758.35 |
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10760.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
但是你們一樣能做事 |
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10760.35 |
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10762.35 |
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我想這是翁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
10762.35 |
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10764.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
翁小林委員對部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
10764.35 |
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10766.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
所表達的這個好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
10766.35 |
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10768.35 |
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是有誤解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
10768.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
10770.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
那我想這個都不用說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
10770.73 |
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10772.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
我們開車也要加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
10772.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
10774.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
你馬而跑也要馬而吃草 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
10774.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
10776.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
這個很基本很基本的道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
10776.73 |
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10778.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
我想您不是不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
10778.73 |
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10780.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
你只是一直要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
10780.73 |
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10782.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
部長所表達出來的用心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
10782.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
10784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
來去去解他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
10784.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
10786.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
沒有美宣費你們一樣能做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
10786.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
10788.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
當然文化部有比較大型的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
10788.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
10790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
活動媒體都會有那叫新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
10790.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
10792.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
那不是宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
10792.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
10794.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
那也不是媒體政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
10794.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
10796.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
那就是我們發了一個新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
10796.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
10798.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
但是媒體有揭露出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
10798.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
10800.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
那就是有新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
10800.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
10802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
但不是文化部的每一項活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
10802.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
10804.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
他都會發新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
10804.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
10806.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
都會有媒體願意報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
10806.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
10808.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
包括剛才我們討論到的兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
10808.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
10810.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
還是我們再來的我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
10810.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
10812.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
不管是我們的漫畫館的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
10812.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
10814.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
這個在這個事前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
10814.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
10816.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
這些相關的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
10816.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
10818.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
就不一定上媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
10818.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
10820.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
也不一定能夠做到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
10820.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
10822.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
有媒體願意去幫我們做這一切 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
10822.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
10824.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
這個都需要美宣費來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
10824.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
10826.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
所以翁委員您的誤解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
10826.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
10828.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
為什麼您會一直咬定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
10828.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
10830.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
就是部長說沒有錢也能做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
10830.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
10832.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
這是不可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
10832.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
10834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
不管在公單位不管在私人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
10834.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
10836.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
在任何的情況下都是不可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
10838.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
10840.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
在翁委員您回來委員會討論之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
10840.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
10842.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
其實我們跟書兵委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
10842.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
10844.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
跟村頭委員都有討論到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
10844.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
10846.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
凍結的這個額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
10846.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
10848.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
那個時候已經有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
10848.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
10850.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
就是凍結三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
10850.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
10852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
那我們執政黨的委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
10852.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
10854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
也同意就是說因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
10854.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
10856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
民眾黨委員他們要進這個監督之者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
10856.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
10858.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
所以他們提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
10858.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
10860.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
這個凍結的金額是三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
10860.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
10862.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
那個時候是大家有這個共識了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
10862.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
10864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
我也希望說我們是不是就朝這個共識走 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
10864.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
10866.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
10867.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
10869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
好來翁曉琳委員之後蔡村頭委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
10869.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
10871.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
再來那個吳佩奕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
10871.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
10873.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
好我要談的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
10873.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
10875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
首先我為什麼剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
10875.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
10877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
這兩個小時不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
10877.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
10879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
這一個半小時不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
10879.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
10881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
因為我在司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
10881.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
10883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
在審查這個稅務的這個審理法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
10883.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
10885.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
那裡是逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
10888.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
10890.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
所以我不是說跑去外面喝咖啡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
10890.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
10892.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
我同樣在司法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
10893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
10895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
我同樣在立法院裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
10898.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
10900.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
我去承擔我的這個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
10900.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
10902.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
我在司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
10902.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
10904.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
在審法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
10904.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
10906.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
回到剛剛講的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
10906.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
10908.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
我還是要講那個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
10908.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
10910.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
一個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
10910.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
10912.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
就是沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
10912.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
10914.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
它不是一個必要的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
10914.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
10916.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
更何況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
10916.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
10918.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
10919.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
10921.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
10921.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
10923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
它的沒宣費是零元 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
10923.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
10925.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
仍然可以做業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
10925.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
10927.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
不需要浪費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
10927.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
10929.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
任何一毛錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
10929.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
10931.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
10931.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
10933.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
沒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
10933.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
10935.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我要再強調就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
10935.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
10937.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
剛剛陳培優委員有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
10937.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
10939.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
什麼兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
10939.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
10941.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
10941.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
10943.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
國家兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
10943.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
10945.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
還有漫畫館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
10945.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
10947.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
國家漫畫博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
10947.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
10949.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
當然都應該要開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
10949.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
10951.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
而這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
10951.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
10953.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
10954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
10956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
又插話了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
10956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
10958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
陳培優又插話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
10958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
10960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
他們下來都是這樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
10960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
10962.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
人家一直講話說一點都不尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
10961.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
10963.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
請不要這樣好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
10964.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
10968.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
剛剛講的這兩個館的活動該辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
10968.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
10970.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
那整個的活動的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
10970.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
10972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
應該是編在業務費底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
10972.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
10974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
怎麼可以說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
10974.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
10976.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
把這個活動的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
10976.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
10978.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
又把它匡列在沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
10978.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
10980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
這是完全不合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
10980.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
10982.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
也違反預算的編列原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
10982.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
10984.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
所以陳培優剛剛還點到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
10984.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
10986.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
文化部似乎有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
10986.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
10988.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
亂編預算的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
10988.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
10990.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
那這更說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
10990.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
10992.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
這沒宣費編下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
10992.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
10994.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
不知道是用在什麼地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
10996.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
10998.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
當然啦今天看起來很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
10998.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].end |
11000.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].text |
是認為說不該刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
11001.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
11003.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
只要凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
11004.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].end |
11006.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].text |
民主就是這樣少數服從多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
11006.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
11008.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
但是我必須說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
11008.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
11010.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
我堅持我的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
11010.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
11012.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
我堅持我的提案 |
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11012.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
11014.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
而且我的提案單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
11014.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
11016.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
可受公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
11017.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
11019.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
不像民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
11019.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
11021.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
你們提了什麼到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
11021.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
11023.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
你們有刪減什麼預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
11024.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
11026.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
11026.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
11028.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
從頭到尾護航到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
11029.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
11033.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
文化部的4738萬的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
11033.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
11035.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
在我看來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
11035.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
11037.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
就是一個不必要的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
11037.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
11039.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
直接由文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
11039.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
11041.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
自己去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
11041.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
11043.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
業務宣導即可 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
11049.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
11051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
我們剛剛說的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
11051.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
11053.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
村長委員在吳培怡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
11052.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
11054.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
好 我再表達我個人的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
11054.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
11056.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
11056.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
11058.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
我是凍結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
11058.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
11060.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
但是如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
11060.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
11062.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
要照類的話我一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
11062.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
11064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
堅持是反對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
11064.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
11066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
而且在這裡也要跟大家講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
11066.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
11068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
要尊重提案人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
11068.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
11070.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
所以我在這裡表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
11070.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
11072.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
11073.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
11075.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
吳培怡委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
11075.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
11077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
這個因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
11077.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
11079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
審查預算有直播 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
11079.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
11081.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
現在線上有很多關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
11081.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
11083.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
我們審查狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
11083.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
11085.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
關心我們台灣文化發展的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
11085.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
11087.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
所以我認為還是有必要來說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
11087.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
11089.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
11089.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
11091.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
當然有監督預算的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
11091.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
11093.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
我們也都就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
11093.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
11095.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
文化部具體的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
11095.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
11097.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
來提出我們的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
11097.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
11099.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
我們的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
11100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
11102.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
11101.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
11103.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
我們剛剛關心的這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
11103.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
11105.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
文化部有關於台北書展 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
11105.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
11107.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
要不要宣傳我認為要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
11107.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
11109.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
台北時裝中要不要宣傳我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
11109.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
11111.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
要啊我們受到這麼多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
11111.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
11113.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
經朋友反應陳情台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
11113.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
11115.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
的黃牛票演唱會的票 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
11115.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
11117.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
這些都被加價轉售 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
11117.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
11119.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
要怎麼樣來管理怎麼樣來監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
11119.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
11121.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
文化部要加強宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
11121.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
11123.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
以免民眾被詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
11123.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
11125.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
這些我都認為要做啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
11126.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
11128.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
那麼翁曉玲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
11128.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
11130.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
我真的必須要再次表達很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
11130.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
11132.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
很抱歉我努力保持比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
11132.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
11134.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
比較平緩的語氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
11134.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
11136.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
但是因為她的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
11136.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
11138.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
我都完全聽不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
11138.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
11140.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
你到底對哪一個業務有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
11140.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
11142.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
那麼原來我們赫然發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
11142.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
11144.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
翁曉玲不是只有刪文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
11144.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
11146.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
沒宣要刪到零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
11146.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
11148.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
他外交部的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
11148.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
11150.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
一億元也給人家刪到零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
11150.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
11152.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
行政院的沒宣費他也刪到零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
11152.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
11154.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
通通都用通刪的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
11154.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
11156.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
通刪的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
11156.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
11158.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
就是讓委員會中心主義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
11158.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
11160.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
專業的討論完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
11160.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
11162.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
淪喪了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
11162.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
11164.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
我們平常在這邊關心這麼多文化部的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
11164.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
11166.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
每次要求口頭報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
11166.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
11168.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
11168.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
11170.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
然後呢就在審查預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
11170.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
11172.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
一個外委的委員來用一個通刪的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
11172.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
11174.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
外委的委員也可以提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
11174.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
11176.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
可是你要通刪的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
11176.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
11178.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
我真的完全不能接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
11178.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
11180.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
因為你就通通我們中華民國這麼多公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
11180.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
11182.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
外交部的公務員文化部的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
11182.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
11184.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
大家都錯只有歐小林對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
11184.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
11186.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
這有可能嗎不符合大家的常識嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
11186.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
11188.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
再來委員你對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
11188.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
11190.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
預算法定預算的編列完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
11190.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
11192.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
沒有概念我們為什麼要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
11192.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
11194.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
要編預算因為法定預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
11194.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
11196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
同時包含了政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
11196.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
11198.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
單位法定業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
11198.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
11200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
的責任嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
11200.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
11202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
我要你編預算我明年可以來監督你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
11202.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
11204.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
執行率嘛你要不要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
11204.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
11206.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
這些必要的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
11206.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
11208.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
我明天才可以監督你你不編 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
11208.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
11210.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
預算你說一張部長自己發臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
11210.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
11212.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
誰自己發臉書我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
11212.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
11214.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
怎麼去監督行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
11214.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
11216.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
這是法定預算包含了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
11216.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
11218.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
法定業務這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
11218.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
11220.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
基本觀念怎麼會立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
11220.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
11222.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
自己來嚴格自己監督行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
11222.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
11224.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
的權利呢都不編 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
11224.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
11226.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
預算我們怎麼監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
11226.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
11228.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
我們委員會在這裡花這麼多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
11228.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
11230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
討論結果後來發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
11230.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
11232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
歐小林委員就到處去每個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
11232.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
11234.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
通三嘛通三通三 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
11234.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
11236.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
通三都沒有具體計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
11236.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
11238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].text |
都不了解你告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
11238.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
11240.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
打擊黃寮票不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
11240.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
11242.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
宣傳嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
11242.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
11244.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].text |
部長發一個臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
11244.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
11246.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
他剛剛問我的說我要回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
11246.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
11248.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].text |
我自己也會的就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].start |
11248.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
11250.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].text |
所以抱歉抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].start |
11250.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
11252.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].text |
因為我們教文會剛剛不同黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
11252.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
11254.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].text |
的我們都個別個別的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].start |
11254.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
11256.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
有所關心可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
11256.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
11258.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
通三通三這非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
11258.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
11260.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
不責任我沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
11260.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
11262.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
去接受非常不尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
11262.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
11264.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
我們委員會專業的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
11264.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
11266.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
歐小林委員不能夠打斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
11266.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
11268.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
所以就現在我們做出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
11268.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
11270.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
犯令大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
11270.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
11272.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
社會眼睛都在看我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
11272.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
11274.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
我們都希望可以好好地監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
11274.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
11276.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
好好地審查你要三減 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
11276.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
11278.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
卓三你要凍結都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
11278.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
11280.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
不是通三通三通三 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
11280.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
11282.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
那這個吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
11282.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
11284.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
還是可以繼續發言請 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
11284.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
11286.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
11287.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
11289.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
發言了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
11290.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
11292.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
11293.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
11295.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
好看到你們舉手了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
11295.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
11297.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
我先處理會議時間好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
11297.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
11299.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
好因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
11299.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
11301.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
今天我們才到第六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
11301.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
11303.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
總共有280幾案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
11303.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
11305.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
11305.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
11307.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
今天會議時間繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
11307.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
11309.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
議程所列事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
11310.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
11312.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
11312.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
11314.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
要均處理完畢為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
11314.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
11316.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
11316.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
11318.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
好不好今天把它給處理完 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
11319.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
11321.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
11321.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
11323.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
11323.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
11325.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
還沒吃飯時間沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
11325.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
11327.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
我想說怕你們如果有便當的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
11327.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
11329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
可以先發給官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
11329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
11331.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
那官員在旁邊的人都還可以先用便當沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
11331.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
11333.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
好我們繼續發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
11333.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
11335.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
那個陳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
11337.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
11339.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
11339.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
11341.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
我覺得就法定預算的部分真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
11341.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
11343.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
我不想再對翁曉瑩委員說話了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
11343.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
11345.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
但是我想要提醒其他所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
11345.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
11347.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
立法委員所有認真審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
11347.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
11349.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
預算不是只會刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
11349.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
11351.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
預算的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
11351.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
11353.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
過去我們在看一個行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
11353.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
11355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
措施做得好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
11355.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
11357.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
大家可能很習慣去看YouTube的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
11357.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
11359.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
點播數或者是FB的按讚數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
11359.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
11361.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
現在有Trade有IG |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
11361.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
11363.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
各式各樣社群媒體在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
11363.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
11365.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
非常多委員都會在質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
11365.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
11367.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
台上拿來作為素材 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
11367.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
11369.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
如果按照翁曉瑩委員的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
11369.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
11371.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
現在把所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
11371.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
11373.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
媒宣費都刪除讓按照部長剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
11373.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
11375.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
的說法他就開始熬夜寫臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
11375.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
11377.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
未來難道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
11377.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
11379.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
我們所有的委員要去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
11379.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
11381.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
部長您個人的臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
11381.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
11383.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
在沒有媒宣費的支持下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
11383.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
11385.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
獲得個多少個讚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
11385.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
11387.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
來確保你做得好不好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
11387.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
11389.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
請問這聽起來有沒有非常非常的荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
11389.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
11391.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
所以部長這個時候於是就要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
11391.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
11393.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
開始拜託次長拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
11393.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
11395.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
署長拜託底下的行政官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
11395.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
11397.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
甚至要拜託他的民間好友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
11397.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
11399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
拜託來幫我按讚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
11399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
11401.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
我在沒有預算的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
11404.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
11406.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
請問大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
11406.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
11408.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
讓部長自己熬夜寫自己個人的臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
11408.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
11410.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
作為媒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
11410.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
11412.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
這是一個中華民國的行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
11412.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
11414.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
委員的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
11414.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
11416.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
所以部長請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
11416.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
11418.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
請問您的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
11418.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
11420.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
在你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
11420.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
11422.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
11422.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
11424.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
11424.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
11426.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
11426.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
11428.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
11428.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
11430.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
11430.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
11432.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
你自己的臉書上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
11432.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
11434.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
這是一個中華民國的行政機關的首長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
11434.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
11436.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
應該要做的事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
11436.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
11438.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
而翁小林竟然還 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
11438.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
11440.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
口口聲聲說聽起來非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
11440.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
11442.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
合理所以剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
11442.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
11444.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
吳佩儀委員非常好心的教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
11444.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
11446.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
翁小林委員說這叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
11446.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
11448.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
法定職責也就是他本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
11448.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
11450.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
就要編列這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
11450.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
11452.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
而剛剛翁小林委員的說法完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
11452.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
11454.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
是情緒性的勒索 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
11454.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
11456.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
所以難道翁委員如果你對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
11456.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
11458.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
國家公共事務這麼有熱情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
11458.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
11460.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
我們是不是也可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
11460.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
11462.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
那不然你要把薪水減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
11462.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
11464.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
你用你一半的熱情來做你立法委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
11464.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
11466.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
工作要不要這樣說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
11466.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
11468.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
如果今天大家可以理性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
11468.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
11470.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
討論預算我相信翁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
11470.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
11472.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
你絕對可以就每一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
11472.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
11474.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
提出你的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
11474.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
11476.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
你覺得哪裡服編哪裡亂編 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
11476.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
11478.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
你都可以提出來但是在你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
11478.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
11480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
所有跨部會的刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
11480.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
11482.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
煤炫的預算體驗當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
11482.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
11484.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
完全看不到你具體指 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
11484.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
11486.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
出來的事項所以我感到非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
11486.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
11488.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
遺憾今天大家花這麼多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
11488.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
11490.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
在跟你討論我可以理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
11490.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
11492.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
剛剛國民黨委員不想被扣上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
11492.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
11494.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
紅帽子那我就問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
11494.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
11496.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
文化部這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
11496.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
11498.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
不論是對內或是對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
11498.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
11500.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
這件事情掐住一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
11500.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
11502.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
國家文化部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
11502.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
11504.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
對內對外的宣傳到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
11504.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
11506.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
對你翁小林有什麼好處 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
11506.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
11508.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
我就請你公開說明我點明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
11508.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
11510.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
你回答掐住一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
11510.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
11512.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
國家的文化部門對內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
11512.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
11514.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
說所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
11514.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
11516.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
爭獎比賽這件事情剛剛文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
11516.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
11518.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
部也說了不論是金會獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
11518.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
11520.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
經典獎經漫獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
11520.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
11522.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
所有的獎項要徵件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
11522.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
11524.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
這個也叫做沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
11524.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
11526.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
翁小林委員認為經典獎不用辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
11526.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
11528.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
經會獎不用辦了金曲獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
11528.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
11530.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
不用辦了所有的獎項所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
11530.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
11532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
這些鼓勵台灣本土創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
11532.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
11534.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
不論是音樂文學小說漫畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
11534.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
11536.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
繪本獎項都不用辦了因為沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
11536.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
11538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
沒宣費所以不用辦難道是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
11538.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
11540.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
嗎這就是翁小林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
11540.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
11542.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
想要看到台灣本土文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
11542.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
11544.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
發展的下場跟狀況嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
11544.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
11546.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
等到有一天所有的文化人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
11546.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
11548.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
告訴文化部門說好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
11548.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
11550.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
是你們行政院不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
11550.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
11552.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
我們請問大家會如何看待行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
11552.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
11554.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
看待立法院我覺得這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
11554.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
11556.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
非常非常荒謬至極的現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
11556.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
11558.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
而這就是翁小林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
11558.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
11560.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
還有國民黨甚至我要再次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
11560.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
11562.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
提醒之前陳玉真委員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
11562.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
11564.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
如何大筆一揮想要刪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
11564.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
11566.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
公共電視的預算而且是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
11566.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
11568.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
全部刪除這就是國民黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
11568.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
11570.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
委員你們在打的算盤嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
11570.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
11572.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
最後我要說文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
11572.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
11574.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
部門的沒宣跟提供資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
11574.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
11576.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
給一般的公民他是兩回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
11576.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
11578.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
所以文化部剛剛在翁小林 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
11578.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
11580.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
委員你不在的時候我刮鬍 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
11580.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
11582.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
沒有人說你去喝咖啡但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
11582.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
11584.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
我要再次提醒你你不在的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
11584.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
11586.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
文化部有說明所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
11586.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
11588.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
對於一般公民宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
11588.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
11590.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
包含提供資訊這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
11590.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
11592.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
他們剛剛也都說了但你不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
11592.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
11594.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
所以我也要說這都不是只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
11594.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
11596.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
沒宣那就算是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
11596.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
11598.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
FB透過各式各樣想要告訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
11598.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
11600.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
大家我們在做這些事情最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
11600.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
11602.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
以文化幣為例大家還記得文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
11602.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
11604.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
之前也是被國民黨委員刪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
11604.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
11606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
一塌糊塗因為他們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
11606.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
11608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
文化幣都被年輕人拿去買 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
11608.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
11610.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
書了齊心可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
11610.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
11612.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
他們要年輕人不要讀書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
11612.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
11614.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
所以大筆一揮文化部預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
11614.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
11616.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
三光光 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
11615.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
11617.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
那請問文化幣的使用觸及率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
11617.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
11619.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
到時候國民黨委員會不會拿到質詢台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
11619.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
11621.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
上來問為什麼觸及率 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
11621.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
11623.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
這麼低為什麼使用率這麼低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
11623.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
11625.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
文化部有沒有認真宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
11625.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
11627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
報告委員我們有宣傳但是沒宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
11627.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
11629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
費被刪光光所以部長繼續寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
11629.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
11631.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
臉書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
11631.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
11633.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
這就是立法院現在在發生的鬼故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
11633.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
11635.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
11637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
11639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
好那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
11639.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
11641.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
我知道我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
11640.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
11642.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
培育委員原本說沒有要找你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
11642.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
11644.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
聊結果他又點名你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
11644.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
11646.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
那依照剛剛宣告的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
11646.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
11648.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
有點名的話就是你可以先回 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
11648.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
11650.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
然後再下一個就是吳思亞委員跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
11650.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
11652.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
郭玉琴委員這一早宣告的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
11652.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
11654.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
11654.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
11656.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
剛剛不管是陳培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
11656.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
11658.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
還是吳佩奕他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
11658.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
11660.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
一直在強調所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
11660.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
11662.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
這個立委的法定職責是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
11662.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
11664.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
我要再三的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
11664.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
11666.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
立法委員的法定職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
11666.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
11668.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
11667.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
11669.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
就是要審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
11669.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
11671.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
而不是編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
11671.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
11673.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
後行預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
11675.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
11677.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
我再三強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
11677.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
11679.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
業務宣導是每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
11679.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
11681.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
政府部門都該做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
11683.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
11685.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
去年監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].start |
11686.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].end |
11688.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3924].text |
也是一毛錢的預算都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].start |
11689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].end |
11691.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3925].text |
審計部也是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].start |
11691.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].end |
11693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3926].text |
任何一毛錢的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].start |
11693.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].end |
11695.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3927].text |
財產申報處沒有任何的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].start |
11695.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].end |
11697.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3928].text |
他們照樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].start |
11697.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].end |
11699.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3929].text |
可以去做業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].start |
11699.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].end |
11701.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3930].text |
今天最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].start |
11701.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].end |
11703.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3931].text |
概念就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].start |
11703.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].end |
11705.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3932].text |
為什麼業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].start |
11705.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].end |
11707.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3933].text |
一定得要花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].start |
11707.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].end |
11709.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3934].text |
一定要請三立民事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].start |
11709.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].end |
11711.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3935].text |
去幫忙做宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].start |
11713.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].end |
11715.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3936].text |
我認為這是沒有必要的花費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].start |
11715.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].end |
11717.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3937].text |
沒有必要的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].start |
11719.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].end |
11721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3938].text |
今天民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].start |
11721.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].end |
11723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3939].text |
要後行文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].start |
11723.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].end |
11725.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3940].text |
後行民進黨政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].start |
11727.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].end |
11729.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3941].text |
濫用經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].start |
11729.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].end |
11731.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3942].text |
濫用預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].start |
11732.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].end |
11734.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3943].text |
那就 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].start |
11733.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].end |
11735.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3944].text |
做霸 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].start |
11735.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].end |
11737.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3945].text |
因為他們本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].start |
11737.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].end |
11739.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3946].text |
他們擔任立法委員的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].start |
11739.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].end |
11741.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3947].text |
就不是在審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].start |
11741.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].end |
11743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3948].text |
看緊人民的荷包 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].start |
11743.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].end |
11745.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3949].text |
而是為了要後行這個執政政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].start |
11746.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].end |
11748.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3950].text |
我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].start |
11748.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].end |
11750.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3951].text |
不要動不動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].start |
11750.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].end |
11752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3952].text |
就把立法委員的嚴審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].start |
11752.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].end |
11754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3953].text |
去扣上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].start |
11754.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].end |
11756.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3954].text |
紅帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].start |
11756.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].end |
11758.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3955].text |
去扣上好像是我們是貶低 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].start |
11758.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].end |
11760.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3956].text |
這些政府機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].start |
11760.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].end |
11762.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3957].text |
文化部一年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].start |
11763.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].end |
11765.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3958].text |
請問部長你們文化部一年的預算有多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].start |
11770.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].end |
11772.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3959].text |
不知道百分之一是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].start |
11773.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].end |
11775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3960].text |
將近三百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].start |
11775.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].end |
11777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3961].text |
三百億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].start |
11777.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].end |
11779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3962].text |
回答的時候麻煩拿麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].start |
11779.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].end |
11781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3963].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].start |
11781.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].end |
11783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3964].text |
文化部一年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].start |
11783.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].end |
11785.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3965].text |
將近三百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].start |
11786.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].end |
11788.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3966].text |
這麼多的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].start |
11788.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].end |
11790.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3967].text |
每個措施自己好把自己的業務做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].start |
11790.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].end |
11792.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3968].text |
把自己的業務說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].start |
11792.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].end |
11794.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3969].text |
那個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].start |
11794.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].end |
11796.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3970].text |
最好的業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].start |
11796.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].end |
11798.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3971].text |
它能夠達成的效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].start |
11798.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].end |
11800.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3972].text |
遠比花錢買廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].start |
11800.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].end |
11802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3973].text |
要來得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].start |
11802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].end |
11804.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3974].text |
更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].start |
11804.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].end |
11806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3975].text |
所以本席在這裡堅持的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].start |
11806.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].end |
11808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3976].text |
認為這四千 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].start |
11808.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].end |
11810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3977].text |
七百三十八萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].start |
11810.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].end |
11812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3978].text |
是沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].start |
11812.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].end |
11814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3979].text |
花費的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].start |
11814.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].end |
11816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3980].text |
不需要去花錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].start |
11816.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].end |
11818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3981].text |
買廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].start |
11818.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].end |
11820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3982].text |
做沒宣就這麼簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].start |
11820.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].end |
11822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3983].text |
但是我還是很肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].start |
11822.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].end |
11824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3984].text |
文化部的同仁們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].start |
11824.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].end |
11826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3985].text |
你們自己針對你自己的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].start |
11826.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].end |
11828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3986].text |
去做宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].start |
11828.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].end |
11830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3987].text |
盡心的去做宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].start |
11830.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].end |
11832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3988].text |
這是每一個文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].start |
11832.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].end |
11834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3989].text |
同仁都應該要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].start |
11834.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].end |
11836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3990].text |
文化部部長當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].start |
11836.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].end |
11838.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3991].text |
更應該要帶頭示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].start |
11839.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].end |
11841.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3992].text |
我和民進黨委員是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].start |
11841.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].end |
11843.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3993].text |
我今天我坐在這個位置上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].start |
11843.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].end |
11845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3994].text |
我很清楚知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].start |
11845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].end |
11847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3995].text |
立法委員的職責是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].start |
11848.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].end |
11850.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3996].text |
機關做的好我們給予獎賞 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].start |
11850.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].end |
11852.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3997].text |
我們給予支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].start |
11852.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].end |
11854.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3998].text |
但是機關如果沒有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].start |
11854.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].end |
11856.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3999].text |
的花費或是機關在過去的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].start |
11856.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].end |
11858.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4000].text |
不好該刪預算就該刪預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].start |
11858.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].end |
11860.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4001].text |
現在民進黨委員你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].start |
11860.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].end |
11862.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4002].text |
有提到哪些刪預算的項目嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].start |
11862.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].end |
11864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4003].text |
提出來啊大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].start |
11864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].end |
11866.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4004].text |
來看看啊都是凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].start |
11866.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].end |
11868.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4005].text |
嘛凍結意思是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].start |
11868.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].end |
11870.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4006].text |
之後一個月之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].start |
11870.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].end |
11872.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4007].text |
馬上就解凍了這個機關的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].start |
11872.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].end |
11874.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4008].text |
照用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].start |
11875.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].end |
11877.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
你們有善盡作為立法委員的職責嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].start |
11879.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].end |
11881.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4010].text |
坦白說真的很丟臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].start |
11883.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].end |
11885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4011].text |
好 呃有啦剛剛都有宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].start |
11885.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].end |
11887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4012].text |
一定會讓你們發言請放下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].start |
11887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].end |
11889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4013].text |
就是先宣告那個吳思堯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].start |
11889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].end |
11891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4014].text |
再來這個劉舒斌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].start |
11891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].end |
11893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4015].text |
再來 是你嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].start |
11894.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].end |
11896.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4016].text |
喔對不起是你先喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].start |
11896.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].end |
11898.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4017].text |
那先郭育晴再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].start |
11898.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].end |
11900.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4018].text |
那個吳思堯啊再來劉舒斌 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].start |
11903.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].end |
11905.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4019].text |
好你們兩個喬好就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].start |
11905.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
11907.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
你們兩個看誰先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].start |
11907.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
11909.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
再來劉舒斌然後再來吳立華 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].start |
11909.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].end |
11911.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
在你們講話之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].start |
11911.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].end |
11913.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4023].text |
我一個小小的提案你們參考看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].start |
11913.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].end |
11915.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
我們要不要先在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].start |
11916.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].end |
11918.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4025].text |
先保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].start |
11918.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].end |
11920.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4026].text |
然後我們先討論下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].start |
11920.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].end |
11922.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4027].text |
這個回過頭來再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].start |
11925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].end |
11927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
主席我剛剛提案表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].start |
11927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].end |
11929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4029].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].start |
11929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].end |
11931.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].start |
11931.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].end |
11933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
我還是這句話啦因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].start |
11933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].end |
11935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4032].text |
過往的網利都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].start |
11935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].end |
11937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
表決啦所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].start |
11937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].end |
11939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
你們要提案我尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].start |
11939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].end |
11941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4035].text |
但是我沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
11941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].end |
11943.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
處理啦因為照網利是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].start |
11943.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
11945.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
沒有在表決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
11945.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
11947.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
好所以你們要繼續發言嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
11947.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
11949.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
還是我要給你們建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].start |
11949.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
11951.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
你們要不要先保留在委員會裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
11951.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
11953.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
好啦我先講完這輪啦既然大家都要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
11953.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
11955.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
那麼講完啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
11956.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
11958.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
講完這一輪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
11958.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
11960.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
講完這一輪再決定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
11960.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
11962.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
那個就吳治耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
11962.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
11964.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
什麼樣子叫做認真審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
11964.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
11966.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
預算的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
11966.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
11968.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
什麼樣子叫做丟臉的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
11968.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
11970.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
就是翁曉琳給了我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
11970.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
11972.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
最好的負面示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].start |
11972.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
11974.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
丟臉的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
11974.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
11976.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
不認真審查預算只會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
11976.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
11978.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
亂砍預算的立委叫翁曉琳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].start |
11978.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
11980.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
我剛剛已經說了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].start |
11980.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
11982.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
我點到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].start |
11982.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
11984.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
其他委員有沒有認真提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
11984.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
11986.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
在審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].start |
11986.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
11988.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
委員在文化部的預算提了四個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
11988.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
11990.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
第六 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
11990.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
11992.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
第180 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].start |
11992.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
11994.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
第250 第270 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
11994.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
11996.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
你可能自己提了幾個案你不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
11996.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
11998.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
我幫你複習一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
11998.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
12000.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
你這第六跟250案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
12000.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
12002.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
都是要砍沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
12003.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
12005.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
理由我剛剛已經修出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
12005.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
12007.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
你刪減預算的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
12007.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
12009.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
沒有明確的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
12009.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
12011.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
就是複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
12011.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
12013.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
跟你在砍外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].start |
12013.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
12015.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
陸委會砍行政院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
12015.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
12017.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
預算沒宣費一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
12017.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
12019.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
複製再貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
12019.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
12021.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
這麼廉價 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
12022.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
12024.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
這麼隨便 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
12024.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
12026.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
這麼粗糙 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
12026.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
12028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
是你第六案跟第250案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
12028.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
12030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
刪減沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
12030.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
12032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
的提案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
12032.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
12034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
您第180案跟270案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
12034.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
12036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
12036.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
12038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
首長坐車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].start |
12038.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
12040.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
你也要全砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
12040.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
12042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
那您的提案內容呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
12042.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
12044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
大家也可以對照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
12044.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
12046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
180跟270案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
12046.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
12048.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
你的內容大致上也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
12048.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
12050.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
12050.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
12052.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
就是說賴清德總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
12052.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
12054.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
因為要做國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
12054.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
12056.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
所以呢要做國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
12056.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
12058.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
那就不要做文化了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
12058.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
12060.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
這翁曉玲的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
12060.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
12062.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
您自己去看您的提案內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
12062.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
12064.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
都是複製再貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
12064.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
12066.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
大家可以去比較看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
12066.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
12068.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
我們在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
12068.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
12070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
提的案的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
12070.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
12072.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
都有明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
12071.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
12073.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
該檢討該檢視該改善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
12073.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
12075.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
給文化部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
12075.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
12077.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
做理性的監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
12077.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
12079.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
我們每一個提案扎扎實實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
12079.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
12081.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
經得起檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
12081.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
12083.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
而不是翁曉玲只會複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
12083.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
12085.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
只會全砍全刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
12085.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
12087.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
而且不只 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
12087.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
12089.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
黨的國防現在還來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
12089.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
12091.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
黨文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
12091.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
12093.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
第二個翁委員從頭到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
12093.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
12095.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
就搞不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
12095.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
12097.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
小野部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
12097.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
12099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
王石思次長今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
12099.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
12101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
一整個早上已經恩賜的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
12101.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
12105.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
這一筆您要提全砍的沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
12105.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
12107.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
完全不涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
12107.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
12109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
採購媒體廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
12109.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
12111.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
完全不涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
12111.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
12113.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
置入新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
12113.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
12115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
完全不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
12115.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
12117.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
這一筆預算要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
12117.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
12119.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
支用的範圍因為沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
12119.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
12121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
也不是這樣做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
12121.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
12123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
部長跟次長解釋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
12123.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
12125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
一個上午這一筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
12125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
12127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
沒宣費是我們所有的管社 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
12127.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
12129.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
要做推廣活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
12129.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
12131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
我們的獎項要去徵件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
12131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
12133.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
請大家一起來文化參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
12136.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
12138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
是這些在國內對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
12138.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
12140.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
人民的文化政策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
12140.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
12142.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
推廣以及對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
12142.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
12144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
搭配國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
12144.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
12146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
我們怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
12146.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
12148.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
利用國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
12148.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
12150.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
來讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
12150.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
12152.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
文化能夠搭便車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
12152.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
12154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
能夠行銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
12154.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
12156.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
能夠讓世界看到台灣的文化力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
12156.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
12158.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
完全無涉於你說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
12158.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
12160.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
買三立買民視的廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
12160.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
12162.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
從來不是這一筆預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
12162.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
12164.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
也沒有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
12164.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
12166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
文化的部長已經講了一個早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
12166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
12168.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
你到現在還搞不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
12168.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
12170.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
然後你要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].start |
12170.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].end |
12172.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4147].text |
砍預算還是砍光光 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].start |
12172.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].end |
12174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4148].text |
誰在丟臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].start |
12174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].end |
12176.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4149].text |
誰在沒有認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].start |
12176.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].end |
12178.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4150].text |
審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].start |
12178.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].end |
12180.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4151].text |
最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].start |
12180.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].end |
12182.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4152].text |
剛剛講了一個事大家可以去幫他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].start |
12182.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].end |
12184.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4153].text |
repeat |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].start |
12184.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].end |
12186.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4154].text |
立法委員的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].start |
12186.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].end |
12188.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4155].text |
是審查預算不是編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].start |
12188.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].end |
12190.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4156].text |
對你終於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].start |
12190.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].end |
12192.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4157].text |
對了一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].start |
12192.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].end |
12194.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4158].text |
就不要一再的立法權侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].start |
12194.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].end |
12196.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4159].text |
行政權去提出一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].start |
12196.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].end |
12198.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4160].text |
前坑法案來讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].start |
12198.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
12200.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].text |
立法院凌駕行政院去編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].start |
12200.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].end |
12202.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4162].text |
預算所以我委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].start |
12202.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].end |
12204.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4163].text |
是學憲法學法律的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].start |
12204.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].end |
12206.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4164].text |
連法律都讀不通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].start |
12206.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].end |
12208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4165].text |
然後對文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].start |
12208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].end |
12210.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
更是外行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].start |
12210.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].end |
12212.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4167].text |
來這裡對於文化政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].start |
12212.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].end |
12214.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
說三道四 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].start |
12215.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].end |
12217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4169].text |
這才是丟臉的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].start |
12217.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].end |
12219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4170].text |
不認真的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].start |
12219.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].end |
12221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4171].text |
那麼最後跟主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].start |
12221.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].end |
12223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4172].text |
我們的民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].start |
12223.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].end |
12225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4173].text |
剛剛已經清楚的依照 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].start |
12225.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
12227.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].text |
議事規則32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].start |
12227.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
12229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].text |
我們對於主席才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].start |
12229.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
12231.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].text |
有意義我們認為這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].start |
12231.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
12233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
不要再無限制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].start |
12233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].end |
12235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4178].text |
這樣沒有對焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].start |
12235.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
12237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
一直這樣子漫談 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].start |
12237.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
12239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
因為文化部門的解釋提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].start |
12239.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].end |
12241.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
也聽不懂也不聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].start |
12241.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
12243.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
所以說我們依據議事規則32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].start |
12243.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
12245.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
我們要求進行表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].start |
12245.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
12247.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].text |
而我們的議案的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].start |
12247.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
12249.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
是預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].start |
12251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
12255.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
這是我們對於處理這筆預算的主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].start |
12255.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
12257.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
主席在講電話有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].start |
12257.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].end |
12259.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
我們要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].start |
12259.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
12261.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
我們希望能夠進行表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].start |
12263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
12265.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
這是我們對預算處理的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].start |
12265.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
12267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
不需要再無限制的這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].start |
12267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
12269.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
吳思瑤對我人生夠急 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].start |
12269.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
12271.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
請照順序好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].start |
12271.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
12273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
好像你還沒有講完是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].start |
12273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
12275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
你還要繼續攻擊我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].start |
12275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
12277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
現在下一位剛剛主席已經才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].start |
12277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
12279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
你不要這樣羅庭偉委員的才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].start |
12279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
12281.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
翁曉玲再大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].start |
12281.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
12283.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
也要尊重昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].start |
12283.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
12285.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
昭偉是你們家的羅庭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].start |
12285.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
12287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
下一位是郭育晴委員好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].start |
12287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
12289.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
請尊重下一位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].start |
12289.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
12291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
發言是郭育晴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].start |
12293.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
12295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
依照剛剛昭偉的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
12295.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
12297.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
只要點名到我就要回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].start |
12297.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
12299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
好謝謝主席可以輪到我講話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].start |
12299.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
12301.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
郭育晴委員基本上我有宣告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].start |
12301.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
12303.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
你點名他就要讓他講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].start |
12304.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
12306.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
那你現在可以先 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
12306.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
12308.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
那我是不是先麻煩你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].start |
12308.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
12310.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
不要再點他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
12310.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
12312.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
要不然我就真的要讓他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].start |
12312.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
12314.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
先完成我剛剛的宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
12314.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
12316.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
好我想真的不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
12316.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
12318.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
12319.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
12321.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
我想這個翁委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
12321.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
12323.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
翁委員對於這個文化審查的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].start |
12323.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
12325.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
開創了這個台灣憲政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].start |
12325.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
12327.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
跟這個不同大家看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
12327.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
12329.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
一種新的格局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
12329.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
12331.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
新的格局 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
12331.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
12333.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
那我想一般我們正常的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
12333.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
12335.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
尤其是我們的本委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
12335.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
12337.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
我們在審查預算其實我們看的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
12337.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
12339.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
項目查的是執行率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
12339.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
12341.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
我們講的是道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
12341.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
12343.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
然後再來我們來看看到底要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
12343.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
12345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
怎麼刪怎麼動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
12345.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
12347.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
或者是我們要怎麼樣支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
12347.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
12349.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
這個是正常的委員在做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
12349.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
12351.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
那我是本委的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
12351.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
12353.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
但是我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
12353.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
12355.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
有委員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
12355.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
12357.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
看顏色憑感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
12358.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
12360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
然後用通三的一種方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
12360.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
12362.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
也不針對項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].start |
12362.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
12364.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
那這樣子的一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
12364.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
12366.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
我覺得個人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].start |
12366.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
12368.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
基本上就是一種態度上的傲慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
12370.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
12372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
那我想這個對於文化上的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
12372.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
12374.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
成見喔這個已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
12374.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
12376.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
大到不願意坐下來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].start |
12376.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
12378.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
任何一場我剛剛特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
12378.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
12380.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
提到的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
12380.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
12382.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
所謂的政策的宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
12382.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
12384.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
煤炫的費用其實用在明年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].start |
12384.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
12386.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
國際書展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
12386.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
12388.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
兒少的書展時裝周 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
12388.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
12390.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
文博會金鼎獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
12390.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
12392.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
金曼獎還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
12392.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
12394.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
幾個重要場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
12394.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
12396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
的建制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
12396.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
12398.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
全部都要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
12397.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
12399.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
在這筆預算當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
12399.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
12401.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
那對於所謂的任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
12401.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
12403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
細項如果有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
12403.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
12405.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
可不可以真的針對問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
12405.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
12407.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
像我剛剛提到的那是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
12407.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
12409.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
68條還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
12409.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
12411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
260條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
12411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
12413.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
我想這用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
12413.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
12415.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
一個大刀大砍文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
12415.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
12417.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
根基的做法其實這 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
12417.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
12419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
不是在監督啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
12419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
12421.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
這是在對台灣辛辛苦苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
12422.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
12424.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
能夠到今天我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
12424.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
12426.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
長出來的軟實力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
12426.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
12428.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
我剛剛用文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
12428.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
12430.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
那我現在用優雅一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
12430.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
12432.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
我講是優雅的集體謀殺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
12434.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
12436.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
我想這不是一個立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
12436.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
12438.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
審預算的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
12439.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
12441.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
那如果按照這種邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
12441.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
12443.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
就是反正 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
12443.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
12445.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
死不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
12444.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
12446.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
沒有預算你們也可以活得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
12448.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
12450.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
剛剛也特別提到立法委員的職責是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
12452.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
12454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
他居然說不會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
12454.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
12456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
你們民進黨的委員每一個都可以當 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
12456.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
12458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
很好的宣傳啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
12458.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
12460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
我們的工作是在宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
12460.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
12462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
某個部會嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
12462.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
12464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
我想這個是邏輯上非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
12464.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
12466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
一個謬誤喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
12466.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
12468.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
那如果要用這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
12468.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
12470.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
12470.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
12472.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
自以為是的說國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
12472.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
12474.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
反正不用前進我們回到原始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
12474.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
12476.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
社會你不用吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
12476.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
12478.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
你也可以活得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
12478.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
12480.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
你只要喝水 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
12480.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
12482.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
或者是你只要呼吸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
12482.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
12484.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
你就可以繼續活下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
12484.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
12486.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
那我想我們任何部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
12486.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
12488.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
所有的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
12488.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
12490.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
拖到現在第三百零七天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
12490.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
12492.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
依舊卡在今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
12492.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
12494.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
這一條我個人認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
12494.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
12496.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
非常的荒謬啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
12497 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
12499 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
那我也支持其他我們民進黨的委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
12499 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
12501 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
剛剛所提議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
12501 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
12503 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
雖然教文從來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
12503 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
12505 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
沒有用過表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
12505 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
12507 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
這是一個特殊的慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
12507 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
12509 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
但是到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
12509 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
12511 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
我們好不容易我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
12511 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
12513 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
照列剛剛民眾黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
12513 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
12515 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
也說那沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
12515 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
12517 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
那我們大家有就三百凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
12517 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
12519 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
等到部會有完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
12519 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
12521 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
一些剛剛其實我們次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
12521 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
12523 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
也講得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
12523 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
12525 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
只是因為翁曉琳委員因為你在司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
12525 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
12527 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
你也辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
12527 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
12529 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
你不在但我們講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
12530.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
12532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
這個部分如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
12532.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
12534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
大家都還有期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
12534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
12536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
我們是不是就來用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
12536.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
12538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
第32條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
12538.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
12540.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
我們來表決好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
12540.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
12542.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
12542.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
12544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
翁曉琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
12544.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
12546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
她被點兩次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
12546.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
12548.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
12548.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
12550.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
我已經宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
12550.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
12552.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
就照我的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
12552.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
12554.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
讓我很快的再回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
12554.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
12556.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
我要講今天我們在這個會場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
12556.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
12558.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
上面我們大家都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
12560.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
12562.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
理性客觀的來討論審查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
12564.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
12566.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
每個人都有每個人的意見每個人的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
12567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
12569.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
但是我很不屑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
12569.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
12571.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
吳思堯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
12571.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
12573.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
動不動就是人身攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
12574.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
12576.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
你有好好去看過我的預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
12578.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
12580.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
12579.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
12581.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
我要講的是不要去給人家扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
12581.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
12583.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
12583.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
12585.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
砍了梅宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
12585.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
12587.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
就是文化殺手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
12587.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
12589.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
就是砍了文化根基 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
12590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
12592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
今天的梅宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
12592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
12594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
在文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
12594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
12596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
總經費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
12596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
12598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
千分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
12598.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
12600.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
不過就是九牛一毛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
12603.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
12605.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
我今天反對的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
12605.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
12607.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
文化部不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
12607.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
12609.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
花錢花大錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
12609.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
12611.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
12612.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
12614.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
做廣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
12614.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
12616.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
做梅宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
12616.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
12618.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
如果說他就是業務宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
12619.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
12621.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
自己做就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
12621.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
12623.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
就這麼簡單的邏輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
12625.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
12627.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
所有的民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
12628.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
12630.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
12629.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
12631.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
或者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
12630.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
12632.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
12632.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
12634.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
山那一點點的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
12634.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
12636.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
梅宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
12636.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
12638.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
好像是把文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
12638.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
12640.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
整個都廢了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
12640.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
12642.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
有這麼誇張嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
12642.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
12644.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
由此可見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
12644.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
12646.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
這筆梅宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
12646.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
12648.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
對於民進黨而言有多麼的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
12649.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
12651.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
對綠梅來講有多麼的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
12654.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
12656.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
我現在要講的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
12657.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
12659.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
今天的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
12659.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
12661.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
如果說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
12661.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
12663.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
要繼續這樣講下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
12663.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
12665.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
我們也可以繼續講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
12665.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
12667.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
我還是非常堅持我的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
12667.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
12669.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
我要說的就是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
12669.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
12671.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
不合理的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
12671.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
12673.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
我會一筆一筆挑出來包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
12673.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
12675.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
180案的為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
12676.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
12678.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
這個機關手掌用車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
12679.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
12681.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
你開了九年就要換一部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
12681.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
12683.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
210萬的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
12683.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
12685.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
這有什麼道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
12685.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
12687.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
我們之後我們會一個案子再來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
12691.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
12693.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
我最後要講就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
12693.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
12695.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
12696.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
12698.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
這個討論預算就罷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
12698.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
12700.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
你們一再一再的人身攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
12700.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
12702.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
一再一再的去給別人扣帽子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
12702.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
12704.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
沒有什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
12704.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
12706.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
我們今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
12706.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
12708.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
談話全國的民眾都在看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
12709.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
12711.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
大家心裡面都很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
12711.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
12713.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
公理自在人心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
12713.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
12715.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
我希望待會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
12715.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
12717.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
可能就可以繼續來討論這個案子了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
12717.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
12719.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
該表決就表決吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
12719.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
12721.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
主席我剛剛有說要表決喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
12721.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
12723.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
我剛剛有說要表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
12723.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
12725.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
不好意思我還是要讓他發言嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
12725.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
12727.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
那個蘇彬委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
12727.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
12729.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
剛剛那個吳思瑤委員你有被點名 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
12729.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
12731.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
你想要發言也可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
12731.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
12733.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
那先蘇彬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
12733.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
12735.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
12734.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
12736.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
我們今天在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
12736.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
12738.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
媒體政策跟業務宣導費當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
12738.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
12740.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
在休息之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
12740.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
12742.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
是有一些共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
12742.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
12744.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
12745.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
12747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
當初是有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
12747.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
12749.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
凍結的300萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
12749.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
12751.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
不過那個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
12751.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
12753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
並沒有把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
12753.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
12755.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
羅志強委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
12755.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
12757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
他還是要簡列2500萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
12757.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
12759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
這樣子的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
12759.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
12761.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
放進來那我們後來看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
12761.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
12763.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
的是在休息之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
12763.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
12765.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
由志強委員他也 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
12765.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
12767.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
直接的說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
12767.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
12769.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
他不是要用凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
12769.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
12771.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
他不是用簡列他要用凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
12771.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
12773.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
那凍結呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
12773.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
12775.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
就是要凍結2500萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
12775.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
12777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
那我在想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
12777.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
12779.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
既然剛才有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
12779.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
12781.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
最重要是針對說完全要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
12781.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
12783.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
要照列或是完全要刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
12783.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
12785.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
我們是不是可以做有效的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
12785.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
12787.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
來做能在形成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
12787.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
12789.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
像目前的共識是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
12789.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
12791.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
張書是300萬但是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
12791.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
12793.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
羅志強委員一直沒有就是他現在有新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
12793.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
12795.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
提案出現了我們是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
12795.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
12797.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
就他2500萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
12798.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
12800.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
凍結的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
12800.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
12802.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
再跟300萬的這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
12802.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
12804.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
來做一個妥協就可以達成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
12804.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
12806.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
維持到校文委員會裡面非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
12806.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
12808.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
一種共識決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
12808.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
12810.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
而標準就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
12810.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
12812.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
到底凍結的要解凍結的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
12812.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
12814.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
是什麼呢就是剛才已經也有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
12814.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
12816.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
就是村丑委員他所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
12816.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
12818.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
基於在野黨本身是一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
12818.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
12820.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
監督的立場就是在把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
12820.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
12822.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
原來的提案當中的第十案裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
12822.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
12824.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
的包括是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
12825.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
12827.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
文宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
12827.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
12829.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
業務費等的宣導費等的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
12829.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
12831.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
契約啊尾班採收對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
12831.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
12833.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
啊播放平台執行進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
12833.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
12835.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
績效指標等等這些把列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
12835.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
12837.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
那就可以解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
12837.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
12839.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
本身最重要的是要達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
12839.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
12841.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
是他希望能夠解凍把這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
12841.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
12843.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
在野黨委員所希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
12843.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
12845.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
有所質疑的不了解的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
12845.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
12847.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
能夠透過一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
12847.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
12849.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
一個解凍的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
12849.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
12851.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
條件就是凍結的條件把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
12851.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
12853.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
這樣子的一個意見然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
12853.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
12855.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
更重要的是把它完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
12855.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
12857.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
我提出來說我們應該可以就這部分來維持到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
12857.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
12859.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
我們很難得的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
12859.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
12861.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
教委委員一直都有一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
12861.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
12863.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
是說一直有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
12863.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
12865.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
在決策上面或是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
12865.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
12867.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
法案或是預算面都是用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
12867.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
12869.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
是盡可能是用共識決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
12869.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
12871.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
那這部分因為羅士祥 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
12871.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
12873.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
委員沒有處理我們就用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
12873.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
12875.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
凍結的方式就凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
12875.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
12877.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
兩千五百萬跟凍結三百萬當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
12877.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
12879.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
去做一個處理這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
12879.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
12881.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
我覺得這是可能比較合理的不然兩邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
12881.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
12883.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
實在差異太大了好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
12885.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
12887.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
12888.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
12890.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
那個蘇斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
12890.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
12892.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
我還是吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
12892.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
12894.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
隨我 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
12894.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
12896.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
吳立華委員歡迎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
12896.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].end |
12898.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].text |
還是你們要我先來處理這一案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].start |
12900.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].end |
12902.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4484].text |
對我就是想要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].start |
12902.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].end |
12904.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4485].text |
因為剛才羅照為主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].start |
12904.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].end |
12906.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4486].text |
你有宣告嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].start |
12906.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].end |
12908.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4487].text |
287案今天要全部處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].start |
12908.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].end |
12912.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4488].text |
可是我們6案就已經花了三個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].start |
12912.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].end |
12914.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4489].text |
所以這樣換算的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].start |
12914.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].end |
12918.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4490].text |
287案我剛剛換算了一下要六天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].start |
12920.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].end |
12922.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[4491].text |
不眠不休 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].start |
12922.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].end |
12924.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4492].text |
不眠不休六天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].start |
12924.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].end |
12926.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4493].text |
我願意為了這個六天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
12926.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].end |
12928.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].text |
對啊既然剛才有幾位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].start |
12928.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].end |
12930.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4495].text |
也提議說要不要表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].start |
12930.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].end |
12932.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[4496].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
12933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].end |
12935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].text |
對是不是來處理了好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].start |
12935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].end |
12937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4498].text |
所以我說處理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].start |
12938.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].end |
12940.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
吳立華委員你還要不要再發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
12940.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
12942.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].text |
他剛有點名你 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].start |
12942.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].end |
12944.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4501].text |
我是想要建議主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
12944.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].end |
12946.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
因為過去也沒有說在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
12946.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
12948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
點名誰誰就要接力講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
12948.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].end |
12950.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].text |
你可以選擇不講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
12950.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].end |
12952.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].text |
你不用評論我的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
12952.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].end |
12954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].text |
你不用評論我的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
12954.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].end |
12956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].text |
那如果這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
12956.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].end |
12958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].text |
因為你有特別去給人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
12958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].end |
12960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].text |
我說的人神攻擊抹黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].start |
12960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].end |
12962.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4510].text |
一早之音 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
12962.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].end |
12964.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].text |
有特別抹黑攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
12964.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].end |
12966.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].text |
然後啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].start |
12966.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].end |
12968.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4513].text |
我稍微參考啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
12968.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].end |
12970.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
因為我覺得這樣誰被點名了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
12970.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].end |
12972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
就要這樣無限次的接力下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
12972.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].end |
12974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
你可以不用回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
12974.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
12976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
可是我覺得這樣子這種組織方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
12976.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
12978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
就沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
12978.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
12980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
具體討論預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
12980.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
12982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
我們不能夠支持你的言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
12982.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
12984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
但尊重你的發言權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
12984.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
12986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
回到這個預算的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
12986.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
12988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
我們的黨團的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
12988.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
12990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
我們討論一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
12990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
12992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
要刪減的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
12992.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
12994.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
要嘛有些案子是在補助案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
12994.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
12996.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
不關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
12996.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
12998.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
或者是說什麼去買媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
12998.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
13000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
置入行銷也根本沒有用到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
13000.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
13002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
這筆預算也沒有進行這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
13002.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
13004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
業務所以提案的委員都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
13004.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
13006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
搞錯方向了所以我們覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
13006.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
13008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
說這樣子的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
13008.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
13010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
指鹿為馬的這種方式我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
13010.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
13012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
認為這筆預算要給文化部去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
13012.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
13014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
做必要的宣傳我們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
13014.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
13016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
是照列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
13016.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
13018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
那剛剛在前情提要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
13018.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
13020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
一下我們跟蔡宣仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
13020.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
13022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
也做成了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
13022.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
13024.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
協議共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
13024.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
13026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
如果用卓語凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
13026.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
13028.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
我們可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
13028.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
13030.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
所以剛剛那一輪是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
13030.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
13032.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
凍結三百萬可以接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
13034.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
13036.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
那看現在部長覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
13036.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
13038.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
就聽部長如果大家覺得凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
13038.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
13040.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
一部分的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
13040.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
13042.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
讓文化部提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
13042.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
13044.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
使得凍之是大家都可以接受的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
13044.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
13046.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
上一輪大家的共識是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
13046.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
13048.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
凍三百那看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
13048.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
13050.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
尊重部長覺得怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
13050.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
13052.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
的東西不會影響到你業務推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
13052.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
13054.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
又可以讓委員可以做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
13054.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
13056.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
13056.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
13058.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
13057.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
13059.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
500可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
13060.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
13062.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
教育部是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
13062.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
13064.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
13065.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
13067.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
我是立案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
13067.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
13069.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
我來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
13069.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
13071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
因為我現在還是講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
13071.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
13073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
其實還是有第二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
13073.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
13075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
那剛剛我覺得我重申一個原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
13075.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
13077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
提案委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
13077.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
13079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
我都會尊重 |
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13079.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
13081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
所以翁曉營委員的話其實還有第二輪的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
13081.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
13083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
那要怎麼去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].start |
13083.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
13085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
那跟黨團怎麼協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
13085.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
13087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
那是第二輪的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
13087.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
13089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
但在這邊大家既然已經一整個上午討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
13089.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
13091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
那我說過即便翁曉營委員的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
13091.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
13093.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
大家今天不把它討論進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
13093.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
13095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
就先放著話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
13095.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
13097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
仍然有我的案子在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].start |
13097.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
13099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
那我現在就先講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].start |
13099.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
13101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
我剛剛跟文化部稍微利用休息時溝通了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
13101.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
13103.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
那這樣子就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
13103.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
13105.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
教育部是凍結800萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
13105.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
13107.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
那我們就比照教育部先凍結800萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].start |
13107.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
13109.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
但是我要求兩件事情文化部跟我說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
13109.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
13111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].start |
13111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
13113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
先聽我講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].start |
13113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
13115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
都已經跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
13115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
13117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
文化部已經講好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].start |
13117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
13119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
那第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].start |
13119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
13121.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
我的疑慮我還是存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].start |
13121.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
13123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
第一個就是公信力的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].start |
13123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
13125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
我剛剛說過第二個是透明度的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].start |
13125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
13127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
那這兩個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
13127.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
13129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
麻煩文化部準備報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].start |
13129.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
13131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
然後我們再來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
13131.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
13133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
那因為還有第二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
13133.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
13135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
第二輪到時候我們再看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
13135.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
13137.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
的狀況再怎麼做進一步處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
13137.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
13139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
因為為了這個預算我們實在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
13139.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
13141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
已經增值太久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
13141.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
13143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
我們今天就大家可能找一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
13143.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
13145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
的地方處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
13145.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
13147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
那我剛剛也跟翁曉營委員談過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
13147.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
13149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
翁曉營委員他會在二輪你們再 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
13149.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
13151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
我最後再表達一下我的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
13151.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
13153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
我今天立場非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
13153.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
13155.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
文化部部長還有在座的各位委員還有各位的這個同仁們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
13155.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
13157.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
我是堅持要刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
13157.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
13159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
但是因為這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
13159.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
13161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
我還是尊重委員會最後的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
13161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
13163.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
那麼如果說最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
13163.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
13165.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
要改成凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
13165.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
13167.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
我的案子不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
13167.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
13169.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
我會在二輪的時候我會繼續提出全處刪除 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
13169.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
13171.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
因為這是一個非常重要的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
13171.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
13173.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
那麼今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
13173.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
13175.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
就是這個委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
13175.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
13177.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
認為說文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
13177.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
13179.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
沒宣費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
13179.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
13181.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
有必要不刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
13181.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
13183.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
用凍的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
13184.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
13186.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
我這邊就尊重稍微的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
13187.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
13189.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
好先跟大家特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
13189.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
13191.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
這不是召委能夠單一做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
13191.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
13193.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
13193.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
13195.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
也跟翁曉營委員特別講我們都一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
13195.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
13197.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
會尊重你的提案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
13197.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
13199.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
只是今天只是為了要推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
13199.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
13201.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
絕對不是否定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
13201.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
13203.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
絕對不是說拒絕委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
13203.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
13205.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
因為作為主席我們就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
13205.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
13207.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
持續推進討論請委員能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
13207.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
13209.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
諒解我不會做任何的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
13209.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
13211.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
那現階段最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
13211.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
13213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
其他的委員請提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
13213.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
13215.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
最終的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
13217.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
13219.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
我們是共識決 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
13219.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
13221.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
我是覺得三百啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
13221.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
13223.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
你是多少我們大家喬一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
13223.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
13225.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
你要這樣講是兩千五百 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
13225.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
13227.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
平均一除以二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
13227.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
13229.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
我們剛剛已經講到大家要凍結了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
13229.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
13231.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
我覺得今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
13231.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
13233.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
不要得寸進尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
13233.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
13235.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
不影響他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
13235.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
13237.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
我們一開始是三百耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
13237.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
13239.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
是你才得寸進尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
13239.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
13241.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
我們一開始上午跟蔡學友委員都達成到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
13241.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
13243.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
三百耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
13243.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
13245.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
拜託我們一開始都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
13245.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
13247.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
達成共識了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
13248.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
13250.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
跨黨派的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
13250.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
13252.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
不要一人推三 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
13253.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
13255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
好那我就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
13255.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
13257.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
因為為了這個繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
13257.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
13259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
我高血壓也現在很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
13259.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
13261.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
為了保命的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
13261.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
13263.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
我就同意這個凍結八百 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
13263.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
13265.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
希望你們幫我們解凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
13265.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
13267.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
我們會立刻寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
13267.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
13269.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
所有的資料給你們謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
13269.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
13271.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
好那部會說八百 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
13271.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
13273.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
13274.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
13276.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
好沒有意見那我們向下推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
13278.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
13280.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
好第一項文化不同案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
13280.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
13282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
媒體政策及業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
13282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
13284.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
宣導費提案號六到十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
13284.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
13286.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
審查結果八到九 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
13286.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
13288.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
案是改為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
13288.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
13290.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
13290.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
13292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
除以上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
13292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
13294.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
我們現在凍結八百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
13294.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
13296.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
13296.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
13298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
經委員同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
13298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
13300.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
才使得動之接著處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
13301.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
13303.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
第一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
13302.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
13304.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
文化部黑潮計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
13304.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
13306.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
提案號第十一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
13308.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
13310.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
劉樹斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
13312.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
13314.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
13314.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
13316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
這個案子是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
13316.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
13318.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
推展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
13318.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
13320.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
我們壯大台灣跟建議文化自信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
13320.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
13322.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
的黑潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
13322.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
13324.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
13323.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
13325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
黑潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
13325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
13327.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
這個部分經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
13327.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
13329.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
次長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
13329.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
13331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
之後其實我發覺到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
13331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
13333.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
做得蠻多的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
13333.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
13335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
是值得肯定的但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
13335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
13337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
在有些部分當中我想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
13337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
13339.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
提供的一些意見是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
13339.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
13341.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
曾經在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
13341.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
13343.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
計畫是2024到2027 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
13343.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
13345.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
那我們看到就是說有一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
13345.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
13347.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
是比較特殊就是林業公擠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
13347.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
13349.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
那這個部分2024的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
13349.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
13351.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
那這個部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
13351.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
13353.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
事實上是當初大家說有一些這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
13353.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
13355.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
一個疑義不過這些部分我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
13355.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
13357.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
的全部的疑問的發展之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
13357.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
13359.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
我是覺得這邊可能是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
13359.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
13361.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
他的審查透明度這邊審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
13361.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
13363.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
項目上面是需要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
13363.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
13365.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
讓大家知道說可以說是不是會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
13365.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
13367.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
有點那個政治宣傳的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
13367.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
13369.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
可是我覺得要化解疑義的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
13369.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
13371.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
就是說希望在他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
13371.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
13373.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
13373.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
13375.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
這個項目跟審查透明度能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
13375.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
13377.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
我覺得會再往這邊放下去發展我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
13377.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
13379.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
是可以接受的然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
13379.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
13381.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
還有一個問題是在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
13381.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
13383.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
他這個計畫真的是跨到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
13383.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
13385.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
目前在預算書裡面是跨到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
13385.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
13387.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
六項的內六個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
13387.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
13389.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
13389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
13391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
我是覺得可是因為預算書就是這樣規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
13391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
13393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
那沒有問題可是我是想說因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
13393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
13395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
市長你也說過其實你們在你們文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
13395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
13397.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
裡面是針對黑潮計畫好像有特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
13397.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
13399.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
一本的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
13399.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
13401.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
但是我是說能不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
13401.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
13403.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
對於委員們在審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
13403.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
13405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
是方便的話是不是可以針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
13405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
13407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
黑潮計畫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
13407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
13409.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
把它做一些簡略的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
13409.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
13411.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
再跟另外再附給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
13411.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
13413.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
也許就是先以教文委員會的委員為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
13413.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
13415.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
來去刷那不然的話其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
13415.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
13417.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
只有其他委員會的委員再跟你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
13417.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
13419.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
去要這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
13419.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
13421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
然後第三個部分我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
13421.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
13423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
在執行的成效這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
13423.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
13425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
你們有建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
13425.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
13427.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
我可能主決議啦那我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
13427.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
13429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
在執行成效這邊因為我看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
13429.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
13431.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
成效這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
13431.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
13433.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
因為成效這邊我想要具體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
13433.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
13435.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
的內容包括說他成效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
13435.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
13437.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
項目是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
13437.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
13439.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
你在對執行成效裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
13439.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
13441.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
檢核他的項目是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
13441.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
13443.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
還有他的KPI是什麼我希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
13443.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
13445.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
在這邊能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
13445.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
13447.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
更清楚的讓我們書面知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
13447.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
13449.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
知道的話我就是覺得會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
13449.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
13451.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
改成說像主決議的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
13451.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
13453.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
因為本來是想改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
13453.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
13455.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
主決議但是希望是說因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
13455.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
13457.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
還是有監督的情況我在想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
13457.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
13459.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
是不是我原來這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
13459.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
13461.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
24年度的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
13461.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
13463.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
是27億那我本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
13463.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
13465.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
是動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
13465.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
13467.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
是動10%那我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
13467.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
13469.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
是說我動1%就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
13471.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
13473.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
這樣子的方式動這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
13473.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
13475.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
2700啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
13475.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
13477.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
我現在200對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
13477.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
13479.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
10%是2700啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
13479.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
13481.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
那就是200多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
13481.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
13483.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
200多萬就好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
13483.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
13485.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
所以0.1%對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
13485.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
13487.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
你要動0.1% |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
13487.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
13489.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
我的意思就是說還是讓他覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
13489.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
13491.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
這個計畫不曉得能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
13491.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
13493.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
你要不要講個整數數字啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
13493.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
13495.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
200萬或是270萬這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
13495.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
13497.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
217變200 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
13497.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
13499.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
200對就是因為我看到他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
13499.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
13501.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
的確也真的做了蠻多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
13501.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
13503.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
包括楊雙子的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
13503.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
13505.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
的這個書的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
13505.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
13507.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
他可以擴展就是在過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
13507.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
13509.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
在出版業當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
13509.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
13511.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
是非常的究竟有誰做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
13511.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
13513.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
我覺得非常好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
13513.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
13515.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
13515.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
13517.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
文化部有沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
13518.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
13520.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
凍結200 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
13521.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
13523.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
我們裡面的預算我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
13523.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
13525.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
自行調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
13525.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
13527.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
不要調整啦你應該是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
13527.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
13529.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
想把說服委員去解凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
13529.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
13531.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
不要因為數目少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
13531.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
13533.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
就說我也不差這個錢我再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
13533.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
13535.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
不是不是我講錯對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
13535.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
13537.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
好啦好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
13537.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
13539.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
13539.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
13541.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
這個第11案我們凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
13541.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
13543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
200萬提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
13543.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
13545.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
後經委員同意喔才可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
13545.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
13547.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
使得凍之 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
13547.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
13549.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
13549.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
13551.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
13551.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
13553.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
好接著主委第一項文化不同案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
13553.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
13555.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
部分業務費喔案號案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
13555.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
13557.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
12案到16案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
13560.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
13562.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
12到16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
13561.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
13563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
好那大家都沒有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
13563.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
13565.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
那我先講了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
13567.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
13569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
我們現在呢要討論到的第12案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
13569.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
13571.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
請大家可以看一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
13571.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
13573.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
文化部在綜合規劃的業務呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
13573.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
13575.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
我們有新增辦理一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
13575.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
13577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
業務計畫叫做文化與AI |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
13577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
13579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
融合的這個創新計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
13579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
13581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
還有影視及 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
13581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
13583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
流行音樂策劃的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
13583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
13585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
工作計畫項目也新增了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
13585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
13587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
一個AI創新應用的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
13587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
13589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
服務計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
13589.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
13591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
那文化創意產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
13591.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
13593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
發展業務呢下面也新增 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
13593.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
13595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
了空總台灣當代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
13595.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
13597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
文化實驗場第三期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
13597.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
13599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
整體發展計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
13599.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
13601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
新增辦理之 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
13601.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
13603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
跨單位的人文驅動未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
13603.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
13605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
社會關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
13605.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
13607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
課題的研究跟發展的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
13607.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
13609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
總共有四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
13609.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
13611.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
是新興計畫喔四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
13612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
13614.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
那在這個預算案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
13614.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
13616.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
送本院審議前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
13616.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
13618.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
尚未獲行政院核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
13618.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
13620.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
就先行編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
13621.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
13623.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
違反了預算法的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
13623.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
13625.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
我覺得有檢討的一個必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
13625.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
13627.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
那其中我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
13627.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
13629.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
不管是空總台灣當代 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
13629.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
13631.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
文化實驗場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
13631.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
13633.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
人文驅動未來社會關鍵 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
13633.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
13635.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
課題皆為新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
13636.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
13638.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
但是文化部在115年度的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
13638.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
13640.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
預算未審查完前喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
13640.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
13642.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
分別已經完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
13642.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
13646.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
空總台灣當代文化實驗場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
13647.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
13649.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
還有我們相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
13649.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
13651.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
維運勞務的採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
13652.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
13654.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
以及完成了2026 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
13654.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
13656.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
人文驅動文化基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
13656.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
13658.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
當作協作的策展 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
13658.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
13660.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
藝文的勞務協構 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
13660.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
13661.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
協構案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
13661.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
13663.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
發包作業都已經完成了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
13664.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
13666.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
所以再者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
13666.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
13668.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
文化跟AI融合創新的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
13668.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
13670.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
都是新興產業的新興計畫喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
13670.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
13673.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
文化部竟然在114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
13673.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
13676.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
11月即進行設構 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
13676.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
13678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
設備的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
13678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
13680.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
招標作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
13680.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
13683.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
並於同年12月完成發包喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
13683.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
13685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
得標的負責人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
13685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
13687.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
曾涉及中華電信 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
13687.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
13690.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
採購、圍標、弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
13690.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
13692.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
我認為文化部要說清楚講明白 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
13692.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
13694.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
為什麼115年的新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
13694.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
13697.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
114年即先進行發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
13697.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
13700.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
預算沒有審查完成前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
13700.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
13703.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
發包所需的經費又何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
13703.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
13704.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
中哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
13706.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
13710.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
該標案發包的過程是否合乎法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
13710.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
13712.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
我認為在這一次文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
13712.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
13714.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
115年預算的編列跟執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
13714.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
13717.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
明顯違反了預算法的一個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
13718.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
13721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
而且有預算違法流用的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
13721.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
13724.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
我認為要實際的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
13724.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
13727.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
也請你們說出你們的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
13730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
13732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
如何去營資 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
13732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
13735.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
所以我這邊提業務費5000萬減劣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
13735.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
13738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
凍結5%這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
13738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
13739.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
所以我覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
13739.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
13741.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
為什麼會有辦法新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
13741.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
13743.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
然後說不能夠使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
13743.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
13745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
結果現在你們就被我們抓包了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
13745.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
13746.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
有使用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
13746.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
13747.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
好 請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
13748.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
13750.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
跟委員做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
13750.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
13752.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
剛剛委員提到這幾項計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
13752.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
13754.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
其中屬於新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
13754.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
13757.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
只有文化與AI融合的這支創新計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
13757.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
13758.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
其他案子空總 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
13758.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
13759.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
因為他是第三期計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
13759.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
13761.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
所以他其實是一個延續型的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
13761.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
13763.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
事實上他在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
13763.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
13764.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
因為我們原來就有第二期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
13764.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
13765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
所以他是第三期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
13765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
13767.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
他是屬於延續虛擬的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
13767.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
13769.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
另外在人文驅動的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
13769.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
13771.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
社會關鍵的議題的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
13771.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
13772.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
他是屬於科技計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
13772.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
13774.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
是由國科會這邊核定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
13774.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
13777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
所以他基本上都已經在完全審議之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
13777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
13779.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
我們才同意編列這個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
13779.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
13780.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
所以並沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
13780.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
13782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
我們在沒有同意之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
13782.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
13783.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
就編列預算的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
13783.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
13784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
那第二部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
13784.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
13786.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
剛剛委員有特別關切到的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
13786.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
13788.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
我們有一支計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
13788.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
13789.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
叫文化與AI融合 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
13789.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
13790.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
為什麼是新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
13790.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
13792.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
我們卻有一個採購的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
13792.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
13793.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
過年報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
13793.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
13795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
因為我們現在推動AI的相關預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
13795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
13797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
但是我們盤點了整個文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
13797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
13798.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
我們並沒有任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
13798.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
13800.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
跟AI有關的設備跟算力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
13800.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
13801.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
所以我們是在去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
13801.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
13803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
我們每一年其實都編列 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
13803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
13804.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
一個資訊設備的更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
13804.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
13806.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
跟整個系統的改善的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
13806.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
13808.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
所以我們去年在2014年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
13808.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
13809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
我們採購的計畫是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
13809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
13811.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
用文化部的資訊設備費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
13811.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
13814.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
來採購我們AI所需要的設備跟算力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
13814.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
13815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
只是他同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
13815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
13817.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
如果今年新興計畫通過的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
13817.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
13819.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
我們可以做為今年新興計畫之用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
13819.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
13821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
好那我們主要的用途是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
13821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
13822.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
那我們在115年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
13822.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
13823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
這個AI的融合的新興計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
13823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
13825.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
是沒有編列任何資本門 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
13825.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
13826.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
依照速發部的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
13826.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
13828.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
他本來就不可以編列設備費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
13828.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
13830.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
所以我們並沒有動用 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
13830.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
13831.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
115年的相關的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
13831.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
13833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
那另外剛剛委員有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
13833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
13834.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
我們的採購裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
13834.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
13836.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
負責人好像涉及到其他的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
13836.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
13838.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
但因為我們採購這家公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
13838.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
13840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
他基本上還是在工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
13840.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
13842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
他並沒有被列為拒絕的廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
13842.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
13844.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
所以我們是依照公開的採購的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
13844.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
13846.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
然後讓他們來競標 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
13846.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
13848.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
所以並沒有去涉及相關的弊案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
13848.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
13850.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
以上先跟委員做簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
13850.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
13852.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
好你們跟外美林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
13852.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
13854.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
在溝通的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
13854.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
13856.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
你們也跟他們講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
13856.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
13858.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
是整個標案的名稱物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
13858.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
13860.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
你們也跟他們講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
13860.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
13862.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
是整個標案的名稱物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
13862.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
13864.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
拿標案的名稱物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
13866.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
13868.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
來說服委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
13868.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
13870.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
13869.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
13871.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
很難有公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
13871.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
13873.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
剛剛你也有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
13873.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
13875.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
你說這一個空總台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
13875.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
13877.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
當代文化實驗場第三期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
13877.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
13879.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
他是延續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
13879.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
13881.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
但是人文驅動的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
13881.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
13883.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
你就是這就是新興的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
13883.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
13885.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
那我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
13885.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
13887.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
那你說是國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
13887.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
13889.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
那我要講說預算還沒有審你們不是都說不能動嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
13889.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
13891.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
結果你們現在又可以動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
13891.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
13893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
不管他是國科會還是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
13893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
13895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
你們就動了嘛這就是事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
13895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
13897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
再來你跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
13897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
13899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
外美林委員回答是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
13899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
13901.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
我跟你講外美林委員特別請我一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
13901.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
13903.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
監督這件事情你用物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
13903.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
13905.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
標案來告訴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
13907.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
13909.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
我認為說不過去啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
13909.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
13911.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
標案可以物質對不起我沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
13912.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
13914.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
我也請在場所有委員評評理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
13914.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
13916.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
他跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
13916.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
13918.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
回應是物質標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
13919.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
13921.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
你們相信嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
13921.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
13923.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
13923.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
13925.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
這一個所謂為標者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
13925.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
13927.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
他有所謂的採購弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
13927.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
13929.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
有疑慮啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
13929.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
13931.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
工程會沒有去阻擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
13931.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
13933.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
難道文化部在發報的過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
13933.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
13935.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
沒有去研究一下或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
13935.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
13937.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
發報後沒有去做探討嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
13937.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
13939.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
那現在我們點出了問題你給有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
13939.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
13941.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
為標的人去標到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
13942.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
13944.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
這不就是我們不監督的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
13944.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
13946.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
等於是放任這種事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
13946.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
13948.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
我不能夠接受所謂的標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
13948.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
13950.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
物質這幾個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
13950.1 |
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13952.1 |
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就想要呼攏帶過 |
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13953.84 |
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好所以 |
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13955.46 |
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13957.46 |
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我覺得這有必要 |
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13957.46 |
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13959.46 |
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要簡略跟凍結 |
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13968.84 |
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13970.84 |
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好其實 |
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13970.84 |
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13972.84 |
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兩個點我覺得為支持就是 |
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13972.84 |
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13974.84 |
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簡略凍結 |
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13974.84 |
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13976.84 |
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第一就是標案物質這個理由 |
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13976.84 |
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13978.84 |
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說真的很難接受 |
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13978.84 |
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13980.84 |
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那第二個 |
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13980.84 |
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13982.84 |
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知道政府其實我們人民對於所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
13982.84 |
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13984.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
政府的清廉跟所謂的 |
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13984.84 |
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13986.84 |
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守法的要求非常的高 |
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13986.84 |
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13988.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
那既然都有這個所謂的 |
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13988.84 |
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13990.84 |
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圍標的這種 |
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13990.84 |
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13992.84 |
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相關的一些爭議出現 |
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13992.84 |
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13994.84 |
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那我覺得 |
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13994.84 |
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13996.84 |
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應該要同意先於簡略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
13996.84 |
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13998.84 |
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並與凍結以上 |
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14000.67 |
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14002.67 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
14001.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
14003.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
那我們現在來處理這一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
14004.35 |
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14006.35 |
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第一項文化部五通案的部分業務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
14006.35 |
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14008.35 |
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提案案號第十二案到十六案 |
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14008.35 |
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14010.35 |
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改為主決議的有十三 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
14010.35 |
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14012.35 |
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十五 |
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14012.35 |
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14014.35 |
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另外因為我有提到第十二案 |
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14014.35 |
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14016.35 |
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有這個相關圍標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
14016.35 |
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14018.35 |
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人得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
14018.35 |
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14020.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
然後還有這個物質標案的一個 |
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14020.35 |
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14022.35 |
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現況 |
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14022.35 |
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14024.35 |
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所以要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
14024.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
14026.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
羅庭偉萬美齡我們共同來提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
14026.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
14028.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
是簡略五千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
14028.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
14030.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
凍結五趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
14034.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
14036.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
等一下稍後一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
14036.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
14038.66 |
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那個文化部門要說明一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
14038.66 |
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14040.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
因為剛剛什麼物質標案這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
14040.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
14042.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
請說明一下看實際的狀況 |
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14042.66 |
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14044.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
跟委員說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
14044.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
14046.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
這個一一五年的國科會的這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
14046.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
14048.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
文化與AI融合創新法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
14048.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
14050.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
他已經明定他不能購買設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
14050.66 |
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14052.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
所以我們是用一一四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
14052.66 |
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14054.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
我們文化部的結一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
14054.66 |
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14056.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
去為了應用一一五年的這一次計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
14056.66 |
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14058.66 |
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以及因為一一四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
14058.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
14060.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
我們文化部內都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
14060.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
14062.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
這個AI的算力 |
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14062.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
14064.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
所以我們才用生銀款去購買 |
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14064.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
14066.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
然後計畫名稱 |
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14066.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
14068.66 |
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只是跟我們一一五 |
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14068.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
14070.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
文化與AI融合創新計畫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
14070.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
14072.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
運算力支援硬體的 |
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14072.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
14074.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
設備採購案 |
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14074.66 |
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14076.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
那另外跟委員說明喔 |
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14076.66 |
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14078.66 |
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因為剛剛委員提到的 |
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14078.66 |
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14080.66 |
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雖然這一家有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
14080.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
14082.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
涉及圍標但是因為我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
14082.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
14084.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
採公開招標然後以 |
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14084.66 |
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14086.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
最低 |
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14086.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
14088.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
標準得標那來投標的有三家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
14088.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
14090.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
然後這一家是最低標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
14090.53 |
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14092.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
那他也沒有在工程會的 |
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14092.53 |
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14094.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
這個拒絕往來所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
14094.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
14096.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
我也沒辦法拒絕他來投標的這個事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
14099.08 |
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14101.08 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
14100.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
14102.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
他有涉及圍標的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
14102.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
14104.8 |
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弊案嘛但是你沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
14104.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
14106.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
這個資格拒絕他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
14106.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
14108.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
我知道所以我幫你拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
14108.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
14110.8 |
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所以我認為 |
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14110.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
14112.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
已經有被他標到了那有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
14112.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
14114.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
所以本為監督 |
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14114.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
14116.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
的一個事實我一定要想辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
14116.8 |
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14118.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
阻擋那你說工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
14118.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
14120.8 |
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招標的流程你沒辦法拒絕好沒關係 |
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14120.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
14122.8 |
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但我現在發現他也標到了 |
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14122.8 |
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14124.8 |
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我必須要處理啊再者我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
14124.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
14126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
看到說整個預算 |
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14126.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
14128.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
沒有通過中華民國 |
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14128.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
14130.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
中華民國沒辦法執行任何業務 |
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14130.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
14132.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
可是事實上你們就是透過了 |
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14132.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
14134.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
其他的行政程序去處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
14134.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
14136.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
發包也發包完成了 |
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14136.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
14138.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
現在發包完成了對不對 |
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14138.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
14140.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
也被他標到了嘛是對嘛 |
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14140.8 |
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14142.8 |
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所以還是可以運作 |
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14142.8 |
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14144.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
就正式的告訴全體 |
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14144.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
14146.8 |
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國人嘛這是事實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
14148.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
14152.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
所以有物質的一個狀況你跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
14152.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
14154.68 |
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對不起我沒辦法接受 |
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14154.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
14156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
有微標的人標到我沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
14156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
14158.68 |
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那你還是有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
14158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
14160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
我們還沒有審理預算 |
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14160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
14162.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
一方面有人喊說沒辦法動 |
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14162.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
14164.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
一方面沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
14164.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
14166.68 |
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實際上已經標出去了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
14166.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
14168.58 |
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這跟國人說明了嘛 |
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14169.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
14171.08 |
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所以喊窮都喊假的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
14174.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
14176.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
不好意思跟委員再做一個補充 |
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14176.11 |
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14178.11 |
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因為115年的這個 |
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14178.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
14180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
文化跟AI融合 |
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14180.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
14182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
編列2000多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
14182.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
14184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
這筆預算我們到目前是沒有動支的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
14184.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
14186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
依照規定是新興計畫所以我們沒有動支 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
14186.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
14188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
那剛剛委員提的是我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
14188.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
14190.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
114年採購一個設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
14190.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
14192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
但同仁呢他為了預期是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
14192.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
14194.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
可能會提供這個計畫使用 |
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所以他在招標的時候就寫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
這個計畫的名稱採購設備 |
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所以他並不是用150年的新興計畫 |
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所以這部分我們確實要檢討 |
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我們事實上是我們是買了這個設備 |
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是未來要支應這個計畫使用 |
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| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
但他並不是用這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
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因為這個計畫並沒有編列設備 |
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依照規定就是不能編列設備要由機關自己自籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
14212.11 |
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所以這部分我們是可以來檢討 |
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那你有承認他就是預先想到未來需要他去買了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
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不是不是因為本來那個計畫 |
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在114年速發部就已經通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
14220.11 |
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14222.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
所以通過之後就停我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
14222.11 |
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14224.11 |
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設備要自己自籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
14224.11 |
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14226.11 |
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然後那個今年度預算不可以用在設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
14226.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
14228.11 |
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要我們自己先採購設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
14228.11 |
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14230.11 |
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所以我們才會用我們自己的設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
14230.11 |
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14232.11 |
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所以文化部很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
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14234.11 |
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就他有自己的方法還是有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
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14236.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
支應未來的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
14236.11 |
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14238.11 |
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那事實上就是有去採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
14238.11 |
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有發包 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
14240.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
14242.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
你還是沒有辦法解釋我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
14242.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
14244.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
最後一項跟你問的一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
14244.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
14246.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
為標者有弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
14246.11 |
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14248.11 |
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現在被他標到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
14248.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
14250.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
那你說你阻擋不了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
14252.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
那你不能夠告訴立法委員我不能阻擋啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
14252.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
14254.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
他涉及為標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
14254.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
14256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
但他並沒有在工程會列這個拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
14256.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
14258.02 |
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我知道我都知道你講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
14258.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
14260.02 |
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所以工程會沒有要求你拒絕他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
14260.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
14262.02 |
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你沒有依據可以拒絕他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
14262.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
14264.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
那立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
14264.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
14266.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
用最高的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
14266.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
14268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
我覺得要有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
14268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
14270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
所以我先凍結後面想辦法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
14270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
14272.02 |
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再來討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
14272.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
14274.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
對不對我在守護的是納稅錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
14276.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
14278.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
那請問凍結的數額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
14278.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
14280.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
因為聽起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
14280.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
14282.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
聽起來好像 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
14282.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
14284.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
在理解上有一點落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
14284.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
14286.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
就是工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
14286.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
14288.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
確實如果對於一些招標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
14288.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
14290.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
採購案如果有明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
14290.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
14292.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
違法市政他就會被列為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
14292.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
14294.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
政府採購的黑名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
14294.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
14296.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
所以在各個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
14296.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
14298.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
部會要採購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
14298.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
14300.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
他就會橫向聯繫這一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
14300.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
14302.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
不能來投 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
14302.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
14304.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
但是這一家如果就剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
14304.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
14306.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
那立法部的說明是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
14306.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
14308.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
不是整個公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
14308.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
14310.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
是當中的人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
14310.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
14312.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
有過去的某個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
14312.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
14314.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
可能有類似被 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
14314.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
14316.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
什麼樣子的因為我真的不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
14316.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
14318.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
這個實際內容但是整個公司的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
14318.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
14320.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
運作沒有被排除在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
14320.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
14322.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
這個黑名單內然後被排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
14322.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
14324.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
在政府採購所以確實你們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
14324.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
14326.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
辦法在那個當下去預警 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
14326.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
14328.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
那現在就要回到這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
14328.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
14330.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
的執行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
14330.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
14332.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
那個昭偉想要做一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
14332.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
14334.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
來督促你們來檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
14334.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
14336.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
我覺得也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
14336.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
14338.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
只是說在金額的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
14338.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
14340.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
大家怎麼樣不影響這 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
14340.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
14342.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
整個我坦白講你們也是有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
14344 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
14346 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
這個叫做受害人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
14346 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
14348 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
他們真的也是有一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
14348 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
14350 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
受害者的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
14350 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
14352 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
所以是不是在凍結的金額上我們大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
14352 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
14354 |
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可以商量一下那主席剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
14354 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
14356 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
所說的主席的出發點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
14356 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
14358 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
給你們一點壓力去理解釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
14358 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
14360 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
這個事情但真的凍結的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
14360 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
14362 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
我覺得大家要商量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
14362.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
14364.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
否則讓整個案子因此而 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
14364.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
14366.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
沒有辦法進行這應該也不是主席的原意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
14369.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
14371.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
31億凍結1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
14371.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
14373.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
不會結束啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
14373.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
14375.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
14375.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
14377.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
你們還是可以解凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
14379.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
14381.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
這是200多萬的採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
14381.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
14383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
對對對200多萬的採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
14383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
14385.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
有任何外溢嘛所以我就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
14385.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
14387.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
提高了原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
14387.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
14389.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
200多萬的案子要動到1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
14389.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
14391.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
謝謝主席啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
14391.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
14393.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
其實我剛才聽文化部的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
14393.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
14395.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
他們因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
14395.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
14397.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
14397.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
14399.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
是國科會那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
14399.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
14401.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
說發出下來的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
14401.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
14403.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
他們115年的預算是不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
14403.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
14405.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
買設備的所以他們用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
14405.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
14407.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
114年的結餘款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
14407.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
14409.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
先去發包買了這個設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
14409.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
14411.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
那主席您 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
14411.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
14413.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
這邊要動的是他115年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
14413.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
14415.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
預算在執行的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
14415.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
14417.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
計畫執行的費用但他設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
14417.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
14419.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
已經採購了設備已經發包了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
14419.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
14421.76 |
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那你現在動了這個費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
14421.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
14423.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
跟他採購設備那是兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
14423.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
14425.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
你說你用立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
14425.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
14427.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
最高的職權來幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
14427.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
14429.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
他就是去擋這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
14429.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
14431.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
原則來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
14431.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
14433.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
來幫他擋這件事情沒有辦法擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
14433.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
14435.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
因為這是兩件事情您動的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
14435.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
14437.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
115年的執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
14437.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
14439.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
預算但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
14439.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
14441.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
他這個採購的是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
14441.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
14443.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
114年的結餘款去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
14443.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
14445.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
採購的設備所以也沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
14445.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
14447.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
去阻擋他這是兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
14447.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
14449.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
所以我會希望說主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
14449.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
14451.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
您看在說他本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
14451.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
14453.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
他當然他在這個處理的過程裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
14453.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
14455.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
他先用114年的結餘款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
14455.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
14457.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
去買了115年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
14457.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
14459.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
要用的設備當然這是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
14459.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
14461.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
他們本身在這個處理的過程沒有很 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
14461.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
14463.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
細緻但是他既然設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
14463.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
14465.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
已經買了那115年要執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
14465.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
14467.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
設備已經買了你又 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
14467.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
14469.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
把它執行的預算凍結了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
14469.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
14471.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
那買了這個設備等於就是放著 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
14471.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
14473.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
但是沒有辦法阻止他已經發生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
14473.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
14475.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
是已經這個已經得標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
14475.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
14477.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
已經採購到的這個設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
14477.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
14479.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
所以我想這個主席您在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
14479.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
14481.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
這個山洞的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
14481.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
14483.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
是不是可以再斟酌一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
14483.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
14485.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
我先問文化部文化部確定是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
14485.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
14487.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
114年的結餘款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
14487.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
14489.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
的設備有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
14489.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
14491.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
剩餘的部分來處理的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
14491.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
14493.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
因為我們本來就有編一個資訊設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
14493.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
14495.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
那就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
14495.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
14497.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
文化部就多編難怪會有結餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
14498.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
14500.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
沒有委員主要是因為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
14500.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
14502.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
之前都說錢不夠之前都跟我們講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
14502.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
14504.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
不能統三統三 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
14504.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
14506.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
會讓這個文化部被癱瘓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
14506.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
14508.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
現在就證明那個有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
14508.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
14510.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
結餘款任何工程都可能有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
14510.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
14512.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
結餘款所以確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
14512.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
14514.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
是用結餘款要被善用來購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
14514.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
14516.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
但是我還是要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
14516.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
14518.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
你們當時怎麼會用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
14518.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
14520.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
物質標案來說服 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
14520.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
14522.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
萬美齡我看不懂你過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
14522.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
14524.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
萬美齡那一關過不了我這一關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
14524.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
14526.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
那萬美齡他就跟我講我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
14526.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
14528.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
這邊都有萬美齡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
14528.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
14530.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
委員寫給我他認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
14530.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
14532.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
這個標案有很大的弊案的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
14533.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
14535.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
所以委員這邊都還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
14535.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
14537.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
有所疑慮你沒辦法說服我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
14537.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
14539.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
再 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
14540.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
14542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
這樣子的一個原則之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
14542.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
14544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
我們去提出了凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
14544.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
14546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
凍結不是不讓你用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
14546.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
14548.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
不是會有什麼樣的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
14548.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
14550.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
你們就會被癱瘓 而是你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
14550.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
14552.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
說服我我就讓你可以動用啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
14555.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
14557.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
沒關係啊你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
14557.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
14559.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
你們的理解跟我的理解方式不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
14559.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
14561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
我只能尊重啦但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
14561.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
14563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
你不可以說我都是錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
14563.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
14565.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
那問題我現在已經抓到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
14565.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
14567.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
因為剛剛有委員也證實了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
14567.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
14569.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
我們現在是說這間公司沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
14569.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
14571.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
問題是那個人有什麼問題是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
14572.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
14574.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
他掛名另外一家的董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
14576.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
14578.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
所以就證明他有連帶關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
14578.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
14580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
有裙帶關係嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
14580.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
14582.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
所以我在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
14582.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
14584.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
我的疑慮不是沒來由 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
14584.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
14586.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
今天我如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
14588.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
14590.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
完全他都清清白白我給他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
14590.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
14592.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
這個有可能有問題那可能我有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
14592.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
14594.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
失願沒有新聞看到他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
14594.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
14596.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
就是有裙帶關係啊他會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
14596.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
14598.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
透過B公司人頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
14598.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
14600.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
來處理這件事我會擔憂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
14600.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
14602.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
14602.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
14604.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
一方面14年有捷運 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
14604.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
14606.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
一方面你跟委員說物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
14606.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
14608.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
14607.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
14609.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
新興計畫你用別的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
14609.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
14611.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
來想辦法處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
14611.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
14613.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
最後你又跟我講阿這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
14613.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
14615.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
他只是那個人有問題這間公司沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
14615.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
14617.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
我沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
14617.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
14619.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
對不起所以今天我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
14619.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
14621.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
就直接講這個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
14624.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
14626.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
你們就直接講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
14626.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
14628.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
14628.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
14630.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
設備採購案是200多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
14630.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
14632.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
那是不是我們今年預算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
14632.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
14634.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
完全不能做採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
14634.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
14636.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
那是不是我也必須要承認說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
14636.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
14638.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
我們同仁用物質這是一個非常不恰當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
14638.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
14640.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
我們不是物質他們這樣的寫法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
14640.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
14642.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
我說實在我們是真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
14642.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
14644.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
跟這樣的委員說明是不當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
14644.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
14646.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
那所以是不是可以委員同意我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
14646.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
14648.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
可以凍結一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
14648.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
14650.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
就是一個金額比如說100萬或什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
14650.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
14652.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
讓我們來寫一個檢討報跟各委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
14652.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
14654.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
來說明我們整個流程跟改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
14654.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
14656.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
那115的預算性我們是絕對還沒有動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
14656.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
14658.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
這點請委員放心我們在沒有通過之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
14658.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
14660.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
我們是不會動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
14660.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
14662.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
所以也跟委員報告是的確有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
14662.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
14664.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
物質標案的說法來說服委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
14664.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
14666.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
這不是我在抹黑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
14666.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
14668.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
那你現在改口了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
14668.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
14670.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
那我在審理預算的時候你才改口 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
14670.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
14672.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
我要怎麼跟國人交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
14673.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
14675.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
我不能因為你改口了我現在說好那我放行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
14676.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
14678.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
就有這個過程啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
14679.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
14681.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
14680.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
14682.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
我認為這事情很多貓膩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
14684.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
14686.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
好那我們來處理預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
14688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
14690.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
好 減劣5000萬 凍結5% |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
14690.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
14692.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
有沒有委員會見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
14693.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
14695.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
14695.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
14697.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
好 委員請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
14697.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
14699.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
這個案子的本體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
14701.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
14707.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
萬美林委員跟召委質疑的這個採購案的本體是200多萬的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
14707.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
14709.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
那要去檢視這200多萬的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
14709.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
14711.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
採購預算的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
14711.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
14713.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
有沒有召委所擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
14713.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
14715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
就目前聽起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
14715.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
14717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
我認為既然他沒有排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
14717.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
14719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
在公權會的黑名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
14719.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
14721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
代表他這個公司本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
14721.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
14723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
是沒有問題的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
14723.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
14725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
因為是有問題的是另外一個公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
14725.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
14727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
這個要釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
14727.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
14729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
那召委擔心說另外一個公司會不會影響這個公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
14729.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
14731.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
基本上我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
14731.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
14733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
可能也有點過濾了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
14733.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
14735.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
但是回到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
14735.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
14737.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
這個案子本身是200多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
14737.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
14739.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
啊那個召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
14739.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
14741.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
您要凍3減5000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
14744.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
14746.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
這個案子的本體的採購是200多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
14746.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].end |
14748.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].text |
您要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].start |
14748.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
14750.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
這樣是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].start |
14750.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].end |
14752.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
幾倍25倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].start |
14753.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
14755.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
這個會影響到其他的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].start |
14755.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
14757.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
就這個採購案來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].start |
14757.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].end |
14759.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
剛剛講200多萬文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].start |
14759.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
14761.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
接受是說那凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].start |
14761.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
14763.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
100萬已經1分之1了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].start |
14763.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
14765.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
要不凍結150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].start |
14766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
14768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
讓他就這個採購案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].start |
14768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
14770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
提出檢視報告給召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].start |
14770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
14772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
給關心的委員這樣比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].start |
14772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
14774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
符合比例原則啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].start |
14774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
14776.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
270萬的採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].start |
14777.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
14779.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
你凍他150我覺得已經是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].start |
14779.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
14781.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
非常嚴厲的給他們壓力了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].start |
14781.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
14783.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
那要外溢到其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].start |
14785.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
14787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
一大包的預算的其他部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].start |
14787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
14789.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
我是覺得請主席是不是能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].start |
14789.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].end |
14791.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
再三思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].start |
14791.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
14795.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
再三思這真的是誠心的請求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].start |
14795.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
14797.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
再三思一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].start |
14797.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
14799.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
我想跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].start |
14799.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
14801.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
31億啦他是一筆很大的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].start |
14801.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
14803.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].start |
14803.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
14805.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
你們不能直接講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
14805.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
14807.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
200萬有問題就處理200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].start |
14807.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
14809.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
其他的也要一併檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].start |
14809.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
14811.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
我怎麼知道其他的有沒有我沒發現的弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].start |
14811.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
14813.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
14813.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
14815.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
我們常常在講喔我就拿營養午餐來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].start |
14815.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
14817.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
有人拿 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
14817.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
14819.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
比如說進口雞腿給我們的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
14819.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
14821.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
我們的孩子只能夠吃本土的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
14821.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
14823.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
只能夠吃營養的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].start |
14823.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
14825.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
抓到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].start |
14824.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
14826.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
我們就害怕這些人藉和上市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].start |
14826.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].end |
14828.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
我們就害怕這些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].start |
14828.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
14830.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
透過B公司又來處理營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].start |
14830.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
14832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
其實都一樣的概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
14832.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
14834.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
你現在在A公司有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].start |
14834.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].end |
14836.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
你告訴我你用B公司來標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].start |
14836.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
14838.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
標到了B公司沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].start |
14838.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
14840.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
說不過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].start |
14840.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
14842.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
委員我知道你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].start |
14842.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
14844.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
很辛苦你一直在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].start |
14844.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
14846.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
你們想要富行的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].start |
14846.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
14848.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
你這邊刪除的本體是整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
14848.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
14850.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
文化部的業務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].start |
14850.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
14852.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
因為一個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].start |
14852.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
14854.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
然後您刪減的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].start |
14854.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].end |
14856.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
是整個文化部的業務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].start |
14856.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
14858.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
您一直講31億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].start |
14858.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
14860.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
大家可能以為說這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].start |
14860.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
14862.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
本身這個計畫或是這個建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].start |
14862.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].end |
14864.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
本身是30億沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].start |
14864.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].end |
14866.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
我一再的強調是業務費整體有31億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].start |
14866.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
14868.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
那我看到了這一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].start |
14868.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
14870.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
太誇張 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].start |
14870.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
14872.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
然後還竟然敢跟委員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].start |
14872.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
14874.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
標案是物質啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].start |
14874.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
14876.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
怎麼可能標案物質呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].start |
14876.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
14878.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
經過這麼多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].start |
14878.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
14880.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
當然說法不當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].start |
14880.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
14882.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
剛剛已經有承認說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].start |
14882.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
14884.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
他們的確有這樣的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].start |
14884.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
14886.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
那我認為對委員要有一個交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
14886.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
14888.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
所以我們在本於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].start |
14888.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
14890.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
監督的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].start |
14890.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
14892.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
應該要好好來審視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
14892.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
14894.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
你今天跟我談不要簡略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
14894.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
14896.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
那我問你凍結呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
14895.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
14897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
凍結這個案子270萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
14897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
14899.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
你又不准我簡略 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
14899.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
14901.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
又不准我凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
14901.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
14903.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
你要我凍結150 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
14903.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
14905.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
因為這個案子的本體是270萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].start |
14905.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
14907.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
我0.1% |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
14907.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
14909.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
這個案子的本體是270萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
14909.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
14911.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
所以凍結150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].start |
14911.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
14913.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
已經是1%以上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].start |
14913.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
14915.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
張偉這個案子的本體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].start |
14915.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
14917.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
是270萬的採購案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].start |
14919.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
14921.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
那你要把他用整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
14921.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
14923.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
業務費來動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].start |
14924.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
14926.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
標的上我覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
14926.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
14928.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
比例原則也不正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
14928.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
14930.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
我解釋一下基本上他不是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
14930.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
14932.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
弊案了就他是標的過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
14932.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
14934.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
他不是一個是大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
14934.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
14936.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
貪污什麼什麼弊案他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
14936.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
14938.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
然後其實我們文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].start |
14938.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
14940.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
要追上政府的那個AI |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
14940.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
14942.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
在我們原來部門裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
14942.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
14944.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
只有資訊處可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
14944.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
14946.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
所以基本上我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
14946.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
14948.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
精心計畫不能動用其實我們心裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].start |
14948.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
14950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
是想趕快啟動AI |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
14950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
14952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
這方面的一些設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
14952.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
14954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
還有語料庫還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
14954.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
14956.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
那個產業所以其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
14956.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
14958.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
我們同仁非常急的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].start |
14958.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
14960.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
趕快先買設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].start |
14960.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
14962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
我知道 基本上他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
14962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
14964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
精心計畫不能動用你拿別的錢來用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].start |
14964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
14966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
精心計畫我不能動的原因是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].start |
14966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
14968.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
預算拖到現在沒有過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].start |
14968.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
14970.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
我們心裡蠻急的所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
14970.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
14972.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
你們有方法可以去發保 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
14972.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
14974.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
其實我們文化部很想追上AI的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
14974.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
14976.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
腳步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].start |
14976.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
14978.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].text |
請委員同情我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
14978.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
14980.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
文化部本來沒有AI這樣一個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
14980.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
14982.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
但是為了趕上政府AI這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
14982.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
14984.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
我們只能從國科會那邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
14984.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
14986.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
取得一些科技計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
14986.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
14988.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
然後也只有資訊部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
14988.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
14990.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
可以做這個事我們就先採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
14990.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
14992.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
設備然後希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
14992.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
14994.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
速度快一點沒有他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
14994.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
14996.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
涉及到弊案這一點請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
14996.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
14998.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
原諒我們沒有弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
14998.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
15000.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
只是剛才講到物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
15000.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
15002.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
事實上我們資訊處剛剛講到物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
15002.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
15004.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
對阿就是說你們一定要找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
15004.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
15006.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
一個問題他不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
15006.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
15008.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
標案的人是不是有違標的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
15008.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
15010.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
剛剛有講到他其中有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
15010.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
15012.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
15012.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
15014.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
那家公司本身沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
15014.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
15016.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
會不會有藉口上市會不會有A公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
15016.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
15018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
有問題哪有B公司嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
15018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
15020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
你要幫他背書就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
15020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
15022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
請我不要凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
15022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
15024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
我不是要幫他背書公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
15024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
15026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
做事情完全按照規定譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
15026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
15028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
他來標的人採最低標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
15028.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
15030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
然後三家都合法這點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
15030.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
15032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
我覺得你應該相信文化部的公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
15032.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
15034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
他不會去冒這個險 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
15034.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
15036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
他不是一個弊案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
15036.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
15038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
所以我剛剛講說我相信你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
15038.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
15040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
沒有理由沒有法院去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
15040.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
15042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
拒絕他因為工程會沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
15042.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
15044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
告訴你們他有名單嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
15044.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
15046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
可是現在我看到了他有藉口上市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
15046.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
15048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
可能性也已經確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
15048.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
15050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
標到了那他有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
15050.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
15052.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
違標的潛力我要來想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
15052.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
15054.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
辦法去透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
15054.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
15056.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
這件事情先暫緩 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
15056.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
15058.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
15057.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
15059.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
你要說服我為什麼我不要做這個動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
15059.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
15061.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
我要說服你就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
15061.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
15063.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
我們的業務費有31億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
15063.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
15065.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
遍佈在每個項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
15065.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
15067.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
然後我們發生這件事情也許我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
15067.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
15069.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
有錯誤但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
15069.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
15071.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
我覺得應該值得原諒的原因是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
15071.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
15073.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
同仁沒有在這裡面犯下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
15073.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
15075.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
任何嚴重的說貪瀆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
15075.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
15077.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
什麼什麼他不是這麼惡劣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
15077.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
15079.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
然後我再講我們為了要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
15079.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
15081.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
追上AI的這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
15081.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
15083.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
新興計畫沒辦法動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
15083.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
15085.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
已經過了半年了我們就用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
15085.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
15087.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
資訊處來先啟動 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
15087.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
15089.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
這個從頭到尾是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
15089.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
15091.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
我們努力工作不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
15091.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
15093.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
卡在這個有一點這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
15093.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
15095.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
跟他講到說標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
15095.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
15097.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
如果從公務員角度看他也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
15097.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
15099.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
按照規定其實我們公務員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
15099.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
15101.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
本身沒有一個想要去違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
15101.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
15103.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
好部長我一再強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
15103.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
15105.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
我沒有說公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
15105.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
15107.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
有做違法亂計的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
15107.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
15109.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
事情而是我看到了工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
15109.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
15111.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
會沒有把他變成黑名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
15111.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
15113.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
讓你們不小心標 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
15113.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
15115.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
這個人有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
15115.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
15117.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
所以我先幫你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
15117.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
15119.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
所謂的暫緩凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
15119.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
15121.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
都是預防後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
15121.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
15123.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
我們是不是提出計畫以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
15123.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
15125.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
我來瞭解他到底有多嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
15125.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
15127.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
我們細不探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
15129.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
15131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
所以你一開始就不應該用物質的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
15131.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
15133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
來說服委員不要做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
15133.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
15135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
物質標案我覺得這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
15135.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
15137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
說法真的太扯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
15137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
15139.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
好那再來現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
15139.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
15141.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
我還是要再說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
15141.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
15143.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
因為你們擔憂沒有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
15143.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
15145.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
所以要先採購 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
15145.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
15147.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
所以你們還是有辦法可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
15147.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
15149.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
政府不是完全沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
15149.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
15151.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
有所謂的疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
15151.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
15153.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
你們剛剛也證實了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
15154.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
15156.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
所以現在我問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
15156.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
15158.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
你覺得要多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
15159.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
15161.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
你覺得這家公司沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
15161.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
15163.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
你幫他講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
15163.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
15165.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
那你覺得要多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
15172.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
15174.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
其實我剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
15174.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
15176.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
所有的解釋都不是要幫那家公司解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
15176.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
15178.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
我只是要解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
15178.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
15180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
我們要追上AI之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
15180.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
15182.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
做了這個標案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
15182.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
15184.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
我覺得他不是一個弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
15184.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
15186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
不要把他升高到這麼高的一個弊案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
15186.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
15188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
要懲罰我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
15188.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
15190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
要減電 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
15190.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
15192.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
那我可不可以凍結700萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
15192.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
15194.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
就這麼接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
15195.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
15197.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
就凍一半150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
15197.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
15199.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
已經是很大的警示了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
15199.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
15201.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
就算我們剛才那個物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
15201.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
15203.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
有錯誤的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
15203.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
15205.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
我們還是可以寫一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
15205.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
15207.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
仔細的解釋這個事情好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
15207.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
15209.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
好 尊重部長的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
15214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
15216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
大概就是12到12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
15217.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
15219.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
你們有提案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
15219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
15221.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
你是16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
15221.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
15223.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
那主席我可以先建議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
15223.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
15225.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
是不是因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
15225.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
15227.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
討論了這麼久的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
15227.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
15229.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
15229.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
15231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
我們是不是就處理到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
15231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
15233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
這一幕的業務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
15233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
15235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
持續討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
15235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
15237.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
讓大家可以一個早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
15237.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
15239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
等一下是不是可以休息一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
15239.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
15241.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
吃個便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
15241.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
15243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
看是您要宣告兩點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
15243.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
15245.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
還是幾點回來再開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
15245.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
15247.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
讓大家時間上可以安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
15247.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
15249.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
我們可以先處理到這個業務費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
15249.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
15251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
因為看來可能還要釐清很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
15251.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
15253.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
那如果沒有這一幕提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
15253.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
15255.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
我們可以先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
15256.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
15258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
先離開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
15258.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
15260.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
到旁邊吃便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
15260.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
15262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
15262.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
15264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
不是不是 主席您是會在這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
15264.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
15266.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
處理完先休息午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
15266.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
15268.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
我們要知道您的議程安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
15268.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
15270.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
然後我們下午要幾點回就定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
15270.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
15272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
您讓我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
15272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
15274.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
好 那下午我們幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
15276.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
15278.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
您先宣告一下大家時間可以配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
15278.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
15280.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
好 我們到12到16案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
15280.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
15282.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
好 那下午我們幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
15282.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
15284.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
好 那我們幾點回來 您要不要也宣告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
15287.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
15289.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
大家方便安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
15289.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
15291.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
等一下 因為我還不確定我會討論到幾點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
15291.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
15293.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
我待會再宣告好不好 好 那現在就是到這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
15295.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
15297.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
好 羅政委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
15325.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
15327.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
那我提案簡略該項預算500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
15327.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
15329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
那16案我一併說好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
15329.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
15331.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
是國外旅費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
15331.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
15333.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
那一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
15333.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
15335.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
115年度文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
15335.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
15337.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
國外旅費預算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
15337.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
15339.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
1503萬3000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
15339.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
15341.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
交114年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
15341.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
15343.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
交115年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
15343.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
15345.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
交115年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
15345.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
15347.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
交115年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
15347.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
15349.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
交115年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
15349.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
15351.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
交115年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
15351.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
15353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
交115年度的519萬8000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
15353.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
15355.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
那合計數應該要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
15355.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
15357.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
相連金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
15357.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
15359.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
15359.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
15361.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
15361.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
15363.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
15363.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
15365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
15365.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
15367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
合計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
15367.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
15368.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
15368.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
15368.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
15368.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
15371.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
合計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
15371.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
15373.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
15373.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
15375.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
合計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
15375.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
15377.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
合計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
15377.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
15379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
第四 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
15379.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
15381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
15381.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
15382.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
訓練費用合計數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
15382.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
15386.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
已不超過該二科目114年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
15386.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
15388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
按合計數為原則 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
15388.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
15391.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
也提案簡列1000萬 那當然文化部有說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
15391.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
15395.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
115年預算加114年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
15395.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
15399.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
983萬5000是因為114年國外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
15399.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
15403.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
的旅費遭通山六成 但是我一樣還是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
15404.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
15406.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
這個理由並不夠充分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
15406.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
15406.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
15407.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
15407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
15408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
15409.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
15409.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
15414.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
過去我們根據預算尊節的原則 為納稅人來精打細算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
15415.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
15417.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
那在原來預算規模之下 事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
15418.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
15422.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
我們本來就是國內國外旅費都盡量能以尊節為主嘛 那既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
15422.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
15423.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
15423.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
15426.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
有這個基準的話 我們應該以這個基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
15426.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
15430.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
來評量文化部接下來國內外旅費的一個基準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
15430.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
15433.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
所以這是我的兩個簡列案 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
15435.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
15436.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
15437.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
15441.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
那因為我自己15案也有簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
15441.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
15443.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
大陸地區的旅費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
15444.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
15446.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
我是改組決議啦 但還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
15446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
15448.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
你們現在還是會去中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
15459.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
15462.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
港澳的旅遊景色還是調成成色等級啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
15463.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
15464.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
那我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
15465.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
15466.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
15467.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
15471.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
政府的政令就是現在說成色等級盡量避免不要前往 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
15472.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
15473.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
但是你們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
15473.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
15475.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
一直持續的想要往那邊走 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
15476.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
15477.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
這樣是不是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
15477.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
15478.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
我們賴政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
15479.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
15481.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
所做的決議有所違背 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
15481.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
15482.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
15482.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
15487.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
這個他們也一直在講啊 會有非法扣押 留置盤查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
15487.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
15488.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
結果你們還是想去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
15489.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
15491.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
希望我這個錢不要去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
15491.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
15492.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
我就覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
15493.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
15497.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
這個你們好像應該要檢討一下 怎麼會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
15497.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
15499.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
現在陸委會啊 整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
15499.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
15502.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
行政院的態度差這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
15502.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
15503.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
再麻煩一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
15504.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
15506.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
因為這個港澳的旅遊景色還是成色等級 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
15507.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
15508.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
那現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].start |
15508.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].end |
15509.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5684].text |
有沒有就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].start |
15511.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].end |
15512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5685].text |
我跟羅志祥委員的回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].start |
15514.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].end |
15515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5686].text |
就這個14跟16案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
15516.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].end |
15523.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].text |
跟委員報告一下 我們的國內旅費呢 事實上因為我們其實主要是讓我們以這個社區營造跟文資的預算來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].start |
15523.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].end |
15524.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5688].text |
的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
15524.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].end |
15528.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].text |
因為我們現在所有的社區跟地方創造 它其實都在分散在各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].start |
15528.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].end |
15529.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5690].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
15529.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].end |
15537.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].text |
基本上會編列比較高的國內旅費 是因為我們要陪同夜市到每個地方 其實希望能夠帶夜市去做實地的訪視跟協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].start |
15537.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].end |
15540.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5692].text |
夜市就是導師還有一些業者 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].start |
15540.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
15549.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5693].text |
對 我們希望帶著它到 比如說像我們有青年春落計畫或原住民的春落計畫 那因為我們每一年的補助案件都非常多 我們希望能夠帶著夜市到現場去做一些訪視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
15550.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].end |
15551.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].text |
給他們提供一些協助跟輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
15552.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
15555.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].text |
那所以這部分就會被我們同仁 其實會陪同相關的前往 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
15555.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].end |
15561.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
所以這塊部分呢 我們才會希望說能夠有足夠的國內旅費 因為包括我們還有離島等等的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
15562.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].end |
15569.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
那國外旅費的部分呢 主要是因為我們其實有非常多管鎖 我們都希望我們的管鎖呢 它現在是跟國際做國際的聯合策展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
15570 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
15579.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
那比如說昨天像我們史前款 作為一個鳥居籠帳的展 它事實上是跟日本做合作 那我們希望他們可以前期到日本去實際的跟他們做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
15579.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
15584.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
比較多好的調研 那回國之後可以一起做國際策展 依然是提升台灣整個的能見度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
15584.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].end |
15591.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].text |
所以我們才會在國外旅費跟國內旅費這邊編列相關 就業務推動部分來編列 所以可能看起來我也會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
15591.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
15598.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].text |
我們較之前有成長 那主要是因為我們現在相關的業務的推動上面 我們也希望它能更有對國際上面有一些交代 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
15599.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].end |
15603.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
你們會去帶葉斯出國 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
15604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
15614.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
這部分是國內的部分 國際的部分是跟國際很多博物館一起做聯合的策展 所以會一年到那邊可能一年是巡回到 再回到台灣來做聯合的策展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
15614.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
15619.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
所以出國到底有沒有 有當然有出國的 也有出國的 也有出國的 港澳有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
15619.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
15628.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
港澳的部分事實上 我們先編列這個預算 那有時候比如說我們會到國外帶著 會去參加音樂節 如果我們的業者有前往當地去參加音樂節 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
15628.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
15635.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
我們有時候為了了解他們實際在現場遇到的一些狀況 我們還是會派同仁必要的時候還是會前往去那邊了解狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
15636.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
15638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
那謝謝委員的提醒 如果當時他真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
15638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
15644.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].text |
可是如果委會就說現在有影響人身之安全 也是為了要保障你們的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
15645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].end |
15647.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].text |
那羅志祥委員呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].start |
15647.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
15651.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
我先就14 16案 我覺得沒有說服我啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
15651.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
15658.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
第一個 這個國內語非藏族的說法 那去年跟前年就 夜市就不需要去啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
15658.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
15664.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].text |
那事實上我要特別講的是 任何的機關 任何項目預算 一年增加四成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
15664.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
15671.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
那比例上就不是一個小的數字比例 那我覺得這個征服我認為是不合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
15671.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
15682.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].text |
所以 簡列500萬元是考慮 如果你就算有所增加 我覺得你要增加到所謂的40% 我認為是太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
15682.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
15691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
所以請那個文化部 你們自己提要簡列多少 我們再來討論一下 那至於國外旅費部分 其實到底也是相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
15691.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
15700.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
那去年我們從尊節的角度 有對國外旅費來進行所謂的刪減 來為我們的這個公帑來節省 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
15700.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
15708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
那今年就算你要有增加的需求 但我認為你增加將近快要一倍 將近90% |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
15708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
15714.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
比起去年 我覺得一樣是不合理的 所以這個簡列的部分我覺得有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
15714.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
15719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
但是要簡列多少的話 讓那個文化部來說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
15719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
15720.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
部長你覺得要簡列多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
15724.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
15727.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
不好意思 麻煩你麥克風要開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
15728.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
15729.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
15732 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
15741.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
我還是希望那個不要簡列 然後凍結一部分 因為剛剛已經 我們同仁有解釋 是因為我們的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
15741.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
15750.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
你雖然說我們是成長那個費用 可是基本上我們的業務的那個項目也成長蠻多 因為在國內 你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
15750.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
15756.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
我們要去很多離島原住民區 其實都是因為工作量變多了 他並不是去玩耍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
15756.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
15764.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
那剛剛講到文化交流 我們博物館不可能永遠在台灣自己站 一定要是跟國際之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
15764.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
15771.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
剛剛港澳之間 我們現在其實我們文化部還有預算編在港澳有人在那邊接應一些事情發生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
15771.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
15778.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
我們必須要做 所以那個也是固定的預算 以上就是我解釋 我們願意再寫更仔細一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
15778.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
15784.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
並不是為了成長而故意編這麼多 是我們真的業務變得很多 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
15784.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
15786 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
港澳那邊你有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
15786.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
15786.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
15786.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
15787.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
15788.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
15797.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
跟委員報告 就是雖然現在正式的公務人員在港澳是沒有 但是在地的雇員以及辦公室的維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
15797.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
15806.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
那這個費用是都還在繼續進行當中 那另外陸委會他們也是會派員前往港澳去視察 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
15806.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
15814.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
那另外有一些急難救助的這個業務的需要 因為民間健康型的這樣子的一個互動還是在進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
15814.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
15819.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
所以有一些急難救助的這個任務需求 也有這個拆旅費的這個必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
15819.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
15820.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
那剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
15820.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
15822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
所以你會用拆旅費去急難救助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
15822.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
15828.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
不是 就是為了這個目的 我們可能要去協助 因為他們還是會去參加像一些藝文的展演 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
15828.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
15837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
或者是一些類似博覽會這樣子不同的活動 所以台灣跟港澳的這個交流並沒有停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
15838.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
15841.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
是 那這是針對陸委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
15841.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
15848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
就委員所提到的 增加983萬5000元 增幅189.21% |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
15848.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
15850.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
這增幅實在是太可怕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
15850.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
15859.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
是 跟委員做報告 就是說陸委員提到的189 那當然是因為去年是被刪減的這樣子的一個弧度的這個母數計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
15859.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
15864.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
所以才有這樣子的一個數字 就是比較高額編列啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
15864.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
15866.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
沒關係 那委員他的說法 你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
15866.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
15874.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
那我再繼續解釋 就是2002年之後 疫情結束之後 事實上國際交流的這個能量是大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
15874.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
15883.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
我們累積了很多的這樣子的一個文化內容 那在疫情之後 大家都急著要出去 所以這個能量大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
15883.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
15888.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
所以我們也有做這樣子的一個增幅 但是增幅大概是 疫情之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
15888.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
15890.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
好幾年了 還在大爆發 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
15890.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
15899.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
對 因為大家都會先吸收他們自己國內的文化內容 就是每個國家先吸收完 他的才開始會有國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
15899.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
15909.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
那我們大概有一點增幅 增幅大概1.8左右 並沒 一般來講大概會增加3到5% 但是我們只編了增了1.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
15909.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
15911.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
所以沒有太高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
15911.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
15913.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
你講的好像疫情是兩年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
15913.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
15918.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
我簡單的回應 我覺得這理由 我覺得還是沒有說服我啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
15918.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
15926.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
那如果這樣的話 我就要請那個布里頭號 因為我們還有第二輪的那個協商嘛 那就保留送協商 我的建議是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
15928.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
15929.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
15929.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
15931.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
那我的案跟著你一起保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
15932.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
15934.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
好不好 那就這樣子 我們繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
15937.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
15942.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
好 補充宣告第四案改為主決議 接著處理第一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
15942.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
15944.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
欸 沒有 我們就說要休息了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
15945.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
15947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
對對對對對 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
15947.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
15954.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
那第一項文化部的通案部分業務費 第二項12到16審查結果 改為主決議為13 15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
15954.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
15959.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
那另外呢 12 14 16保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
15960.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
15960.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
15962.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
15964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
14也是你的嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
15964.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
15966.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
對對 保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
15966.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
15966.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
15968.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
15976.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
那接著我們在處理第一幕一般行政提案17到18之前 我們先休息吃個便當 我們預計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
15978.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
15980.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
1點半 繼續改為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
15992.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
15994.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
2點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
15994.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
15996.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
2點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
16001.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
16003.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
3點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
18706.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
18708.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
好 我們繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
18708.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
18718.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
不好意思 因為剛剛有人提議說再多15分鐘 因為便當比較好進食 所以我才慢了一些 因為有人提議說30分鐘不到吃便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
18722.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
18727.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
好 第一幕行政二號第17 18案 我們提案的委員請說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
18729.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
18731.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
再次任作委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
18732.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
18734.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
好 大家午安 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
18733.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
18743.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
我正在這個案子做一個說明 這個案子立法院的預算中心都指出 那文化部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
18743.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
18751.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
他主管預算不只是在本部 還分散在基金 行政法人 還有財團法人跟所屬機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
18752.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
18763.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
那文化部的經費大部分都是一大包 那如果沒有一個統一的管考表 立法院也很難來追蹤問題 是否是真正改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
18763.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
18774.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
所以呢 我希望文化部能夠提出管考表還有追蹤機制 那這個案子我仍然維持凍結200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
18775.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
18777.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
18778.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
18780.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
好 凍結200 那其他委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
18781.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
18783.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
沒有吼 那我們主管機關請回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
18783.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
18790.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
跟委員報告 我們是不是可以讓我們凍結的數目小一點 因為是這樣 因為上次我跟委員說明過 這個其實一般行政的維持費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
18790.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
18798.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
所以它會影響的是我們一般的普通的業務維持 所以如果可以凍結100 然後讓我們做書面的整理跟說明 這樣可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
18800.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
18802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
好 委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
18802.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
18812.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
那是不是就是書面報告 把跨機關 跨基金 跨法人的一個預算問題做一個管考表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
18812.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
18813.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
我們做個中整 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
18813.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
18824.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].text |
然後還有要名列那個預算中心的評估問題 跟責任單位 還有應對科目 改善措施 期繩跟議席的效益 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].start |
18824.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].end |
18832.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5792].text |
而且呢 也要說明是否修正補助 投資 績效 考核 還有內控 資訊公開跟利益衝突的一個防範機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].start |
18832.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].end |
18837.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
然後第四 提出每一季提供立法院追蹤的方式 這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].start |
18837.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].end |
18845.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5794].text |
好 不過跟委員說明 因為它是一般行政啦 所以它的那個追蹤的方式可能不會像專案這樣這麼清晰 但它一樣會有執行的追蹤可以提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
18845.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].end |
18848.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].text |
好 可以讓我們可以看得懂 然後可以監督這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
18848.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].end |
18849.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].start |
18849.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].end |
18850.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
18850.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].end |
18851.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
18852.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].end |
18853.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
好 還有委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
18856.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].end |
18857.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
18859.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].end |
18860.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
18861.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].end |
18862.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].text |
好 那我們來處理喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].start |
18864.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].end |
18869.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5803].text |
一般行政提案案號第17 18案審查結果 改為主決議17 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].start |
18869.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].end |
18875.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
那剛剛說凍結100萬嘛 凍結100萬 並針對各提案的要求 依審查會決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].start |
18875.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].end |
18880.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5805].text |
提出書面報告 然後再使得動知 接著處理第二幕 綜合規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
18880.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].end |
18884.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].text |
提案案號19到40 請吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].start |
18885.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].end |
18887.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
謝謝 大家辛苦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].start |
18887.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].end |
18891.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
我要請部長次長大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
18892.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].end |
18898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
認真 我在綜合規劃有四個案 我認為都是非常我重視的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
18898.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
18904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
也是我們在綜合規劃對於文化不管視覺或是表演藝術很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].start |
18904.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].end |
18909.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
在規劃面向的政策 請我透過預算案的提出喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
18909.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].end |
18911.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
希望文化部門要來精進喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
18911.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].end |
18914.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].text |
我的第20案主要是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
18915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].end |
18919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
思耀努力了這麼久 我們排除萬難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
18919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].end |
18925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
讓文化部可以回歸文化基本法 得以設置文化發展基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
18925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].end |
18930.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
文化發展基金一開始的規劃是要有58億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
18930.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].end |
18935.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].text |
要用於活化公共藝術 壯大公共媒體 以及強化文化發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
18936.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].end |
18942.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
但是讓這個基金催生了以後 我真的都覺得有點恨鐵不成鋼 但我知道有難度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
18943.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
18948.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
可是基金被催生了可以被合法設置了 我們排除跟財政紀律法的憾格 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
18948.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
18951.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
可是我們看看原定是希望有58億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
18951.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
18955.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
但是112年那時候剛上路的時候 稅入只編2.5億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
18955.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
18960.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
到現在審查115年度預算 稅入預算只有2.05億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
18960.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
18965.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
也就是我們自己文化部對文化發展基金編列的預算 沒有雄心壯志 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
18965.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
18969.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
我就是萎縮到剩下2億左右的規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
18969.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
18971.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
那我覺得怎麼協助大家能夠做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
18972.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
18974.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
我認為修法是一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
18974.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
18979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
當初我們試圖的希望在文化基本法24條提出修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
18979.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
18982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
我們匡列文化發展基金的財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
18982.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].end |
18987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
修法的方式幫助文化部 在國家預算各部會都在爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
18987.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
18992.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
我們可以爭取到更豐沛的預算投注於文化發展基金活化使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
18992.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
18993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
Why not? |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
18993.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
18996.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
文化部的修法的立場我現在沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
18997.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
18999.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
甚至我也建議小野部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
18999.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
19003.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
對不起 李遠部長 應當在善用行政院的文化發展會報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
19003.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
19007.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
再把文化發展基金這一個得來不易的文化新的財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
19007.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
19011.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
好好的去請那個跨部會來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
19011.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
19013.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
財源是什麼是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
19014.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
19016.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
沒有訂的話就沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
19017.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
19020.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
我們除了審查預算 刪減預算 凍結預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
19020.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
19023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
我立法委員我更要努力為文化部爭取預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
19023.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
19025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
這是我的第28案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
19025.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
19029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
我的第29案就是我之前因為擔任幹部的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
19029.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
19031.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
我離開文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
19031.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
19032.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
19032.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
19034.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
我轉戰司法法制委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
19034.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
19036.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
我深切的感受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
19036.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
19041.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
司法法制委員會我可以督導的是考試院跟人事總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
19041.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
19046.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
當我們希望能夠步步都是文化部落實文化主流化的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
19046.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
19050.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
我們就必須在公部門的每一個公務同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
19050.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
19054.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
他在受訓培育人才的時候都有文化的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
19054.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
19056.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
可是我赫然發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
19056.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
19061.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
不管是在考試院的一些政策能力的訓練培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
19061.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
19067.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
或者是人事總處的所有的公部門的這個能力的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
19067.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
19071.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
都比較缺乏文化治理能力的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
19072.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
19076.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
這是我在司法法制委員會兩年我所觀察的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
19076.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
19078.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
所以回歸文化基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
19078.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
19084.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
國家應自行或委託辦理文化藝術專業及行政人員之培育訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
19085.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
19088.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
請文化部要有更精進的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
19088.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
19090.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
當我問了考試院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
19090.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
19093.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
那個時候考試院的新任院長在接受我備詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
19093.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
19095.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
他也非常支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
19095.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
19097.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
那希望這個部門文化部來改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
19097.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
19098.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
30案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
19098.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
19099.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
19101.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
19103.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
是博物館這案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
19103.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
19105.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
對博物館政策白皮書 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
19105.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
19108.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
拖了一段時間我們終於上路了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
19108.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
19112.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
那博物館我們如何為我們的博物館增加財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
19112.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
19115.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
我們看看以法國羅浮宮的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
19115.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
19120.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
他們可以透過群眾募資來作為博物館替代性的財務工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
19120.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
19124.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
而不是博物館只能夠靠門票來自籌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
19124.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
19127.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
或者是依賴國家的預算支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
19127.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
19128.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
我要再說一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
19128.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
19132.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
我會發現思瑤在監督文化部門的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
19132.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
19133.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
我除了監督預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
19133.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
19137.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
我更要想方設法爭取國家的財源用在文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
19137.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
19139.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
而在博物館的面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
19139.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
19141.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
如果能夠學習國際的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
19141.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
19143.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
我們活化現在的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
19143.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
19147.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
以替代性財務的工具善用名利 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
19147.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
19152.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
我們其實是可以去爭取修法公益勸募條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
19152.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
19155.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
讓現在只能夠被動接受外界捐款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
19156.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
19158.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
而不能主動發起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
19158.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
19162.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
捐木的這個綁死的文化部門的作為也許可以打開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
19162.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
19166.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
這是公益勸募條例的修法方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
19166.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
19171.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
第二個我們進一步的來鼓勵民間捐贈文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
19171.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
19173.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
除了實體的物件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
19173.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
19177.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
譬如說順天把整批的那個畫作捐給國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
19177.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
19180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
除了實體的文化物件藝術品 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
19180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
19186.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
更可以讓他的捐贈的金額來計入基本所得的課稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
19186.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
19190.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
提升民間的捐贈意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
19190.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
19192.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
所以我對於這個提案是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
19192.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
19194.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
對於公益勸募條例也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
19194.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
19196.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
所得基本稅額條例也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
19196.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
19200.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
文化部門對於爭取替代性財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
19200.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
19202.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
我這裡是針對博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
19202.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
19203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
視覺藝術優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
19203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
19205.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
能不能夠來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
19205.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
19208.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
學學羅浮宮怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
19208.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
19210.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
最後一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
19210.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
19214.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].text |
聘用人員人事條例一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
19214.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
19216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
也就是這是我去司法法治委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
19216.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
19218.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
我獲得的新的學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
19218.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
19222.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
當我在質詢考試院的院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
19222.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
19228.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
他支不支持我們積極協調考試院跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
19228.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
19230.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
以文化專業人員為範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
19230.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
19233.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
去推動文化人員聘認條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
19233.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
19234.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
說了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
19234.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
19236.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
從來沒有進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
19236.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
19240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
以至於我們受限於現在的人事專業法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
19240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
19242.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
我們沒有辦法真的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
19242.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
19245.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
擴大對於文化專業人員的任用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
19245.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
19247.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
而現在國家的管社 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
19247.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
19249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
不管是從兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
19249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
19250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
漫畫館 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
19250.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
19251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
鐵道博物園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
19251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
19253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
這麼多新的文化管社 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
19253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
19255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
我們需要新的文化人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
19255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
19258.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
那麼在人事聘認條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
19258.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
19261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
要不要去制定它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
19261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
19262.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
去優化它 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
19262.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
19266.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
我得到考試院的立場是肯定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
19266.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
19267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
那這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
19267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
19270.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
文化部我們就要積極動起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
19270.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
19272.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
所以我的四個提案大家可以發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
19272.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
19274.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
在增加文化財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
19274.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
19277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
以及增加我們人事聘認的鬆綁 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
19278.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
19279.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
這是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
19280.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
19281.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
舉行動念 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
19281.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
19283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
還有增加人事鬆綁之餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
19283.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
19286.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
現有的公務同仁如何讓他有文化思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
19286.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
19289.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
這四個案都攸關我們綜合規劃重要的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
19289.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
19292.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
稍後請你們綜合回覆謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
19295.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
19298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
陳培育委員再來郭育芹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
19298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
19299.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
19299.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
19301.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
19301.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
19302.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
對不起對不起等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
19302.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
19304.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
秀寶委員有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
19304.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
19305.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
那就是陳培育委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
19305.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
19307.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
郭育芹委員陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
19307.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
19308.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
再來羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
19309.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
19310.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
19310.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
19311.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
這一幕我有三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
19311.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
19313.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
19 20 21 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
19313.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
19316.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
第一個我要提醒文化部剛剛部長早上說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
19316.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
19319.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
文化部想要急著用很多的AI |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
19319.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
19321.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
那我們本來也在關注很多AI的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
19321.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
19325.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
發現文化部可能對於AI有一些不同的理解跟想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
19325.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
19327.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
我覺得需要做一些溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
19327.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
19331.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
第一個現在台灣急需要自己有繁體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
19331.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
19333.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
中文語料的這個語言模型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
19333.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
19335.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
但是我們知道發展語言模型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
19335.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
19338.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
其實非常的耗費成本不可能讓文化部來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
19338.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
19342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
那到底文化部可以如何協助不同國家的語言模型 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
19342.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
19344.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
如果他們希望有繁中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
19344.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
19346.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
繁體中文的資料的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
19346.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
19348.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
到底文化部可以如何協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
19348.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
19350.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
當然那之前我們開了座談會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
19350.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
19352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
謝謝司藥委員也有一起參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
19352.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
19357.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
在這個座談會上其實我們找了不論是出版雜誌廣播影視新聞報紙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
19357.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
19360.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
大家都在說如何把繁中語料送上雲端 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
19360.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
19362.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
在雲端上的台灣不要被消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
19362.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
19366.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
這件事情文化部真的有其必要性跟角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
19366.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
19372.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
那目前我們知道國科會已經承諾願意編列預算協助製作這些語料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
19372.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
19374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
讓它變成是代語的模型可以讀取的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
19374.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
19376.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
可是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
19377.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
19382.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
國科會有提到也希望文化部自己要主動積極找業者去跟國科會對接 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
19382.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
19386.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
這個部分我們會持續的監督希望文化部可以有競速有角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
19386.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
19389.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
再來就是目前有很多創作比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
19389.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
19393.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
我們今天早上也講到很多台灣本土的創作者不論在哪個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
19393.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
19399.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
但是目前所有文化部的補助或是證件都沒有針對AI創作立出規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
19399.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
19401.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
也就是說如果今天有個創作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
19401.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
19406.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
他的寫小說裡面可能三分之一甚至超過二分之一是由AI來創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
19406.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
19408.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
但是我們卻沒有辦法辨識出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
19408.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
19410.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
那這樣的比賽還公平嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
19410.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
19413.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
還是說文化部有沒有可能考慮參考國外的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
19413.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
19415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
確實現在也有一些是AI的比賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
19415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
19420.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
那我覺得要把非AI的創作跟AI的創作分開來這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
19420.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
19423.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
我覺得對於創作者是比較公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
19423.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
19428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
那第三個我們看到文化部在去年的政令宣導圖文裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
19428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
19430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
自己也用了AI做內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
19430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
19432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
可是我們要提醒這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
19432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
19435.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
當文化部是主管所有的內容的主管機關的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
19435.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
19438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
對於使用AI來做政令宣導這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
19438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
19440.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
文化部自己內部有沒有相關的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
19440.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
19442.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
甚至是對於所有的標案廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
19442.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
19445.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
有沒有相關的審查跟把關機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
19445.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
19448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
相關的使用原則到底會是什麼標是規範又是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
19448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
19450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
如果文化部自己沒有角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
19450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
19455.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
那我想所有的標的廠商或者是補助的對象內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
19455.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
19458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
他們可能也就無上限的使用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
19458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
19461.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
那我覺得這個會是一個對內容的折損 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
19461.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
19463.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
第二個案子是20案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
19463.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
19465.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
20案是關於文化統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
19465.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
19468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
其實台灣要發展文化對外當然是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
19468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
19473.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
可是我們的基礎資料其實在建構上真的還有有待補強 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
19473.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
19476.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
包含說目前的文化統計文化參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
19476.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
19479.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
消費調查全國藝文活動資訊系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
19479.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
19481.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
這些系統目前其實都沒有對接起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
19481.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
19484.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
所以包含文化並怎麼使用文化消費趨勢是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
19484.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
19487.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
如果今天有所有的產業內容業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
19487.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
19490.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
或者是所有想要發展新產業的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
19490.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
19492.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
我們沒有這些基本的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
19492.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
19494.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
我覺得其實是很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
19494.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
19496.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
那另外如果從文化平權的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
19496.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
19497.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
如果沒有這些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
19497.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
19500.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
我們也不知道誰被排除在外了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
19500.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
19502.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
那一旦沒有辦法知道誰被排除在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
19502.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
19506.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
我們的文化平權政策就有可能打不到點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].start |
19506.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
19509.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
所以這個部分也是要提醒文化部持續的加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
19509.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
19511.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
最後一個21案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
19512.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
19513.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
有蠻多個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
19513.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
19517.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
但是我就簡單的說包含有性平安的文化界人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
19517.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
19520.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
都還是可以持續透過補助評審節目的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
19520.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
19521.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
參與公部門的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
19521.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
19523.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
我們希望文化部持續改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
19523.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
19526.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
再來就是國家蕭響樂團從2002年改制以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
19526.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
19529.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
其實跟國表藝三館關係不明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
19529.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
19531.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
那如果沒有相關的法規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
19531.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
19533.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
我覺得對於國表藝中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
19533.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
19536.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
或者是其他樂團的成員其實也都很不公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
19536.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
19540.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
這個部分我們還是希望文化部可以持續精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
19540.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
19544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
再來就是根據台北市藝術創作者職業工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
19544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
19546.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
做的性平調查發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
19546.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
19548.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
大部分的人都有經常性夜間工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
19548.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
19550.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
加班時數過高 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
19550.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
19554.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
那文化部如何協助並且鼓勵藝文團體建立職場申訴管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
19554.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
19556.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
或是改善藝文職場勞動環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
19556.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
19558.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
我覺得這都是未來還可以加強的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
19558.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
19560.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
21案我並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
19560.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
19562.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
前面兩個案我可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
19562.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
19564.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
19566.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
19568.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
19569.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
19571.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
過去為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
19572.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
19574.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
19602.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
19605.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
那只是說這個淨零的指引還有綠色標章 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
19605.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
19608.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
跟這個淨零的一個評估的一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
19608.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
19612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
那它需要一個比較長期的一個完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
19612.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
19616.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
然後跟後面一些美合的一些機制來持續的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
19616.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
19619.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
那我想這已經是國際的一個趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
19619.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
19623.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
那我們在這邊還是要請這個文化部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
19623.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
19627.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
說明一下就是目前這個淨零的一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
19627.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
19630.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
然後還有剛剛我所說的這些完備的一些機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
19630.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
19633.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
那怎麼樣能夠讓它真正的一個落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
19633.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
19636.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
在我們的文化產業當中來做一個發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
19636.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
19638.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
那這個部分其實我沒有堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
19638.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
19640.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
那可以改主決議沒問題好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
19644.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
19645.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
陳秀八委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
19646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
19648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
謝謝主席在這一幕我有兩個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
19648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
19650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
第一個案子是第27案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
19650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
19655.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
27案的部分是關於文化發展之評估與推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
19655.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
19658.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
對於這個藝文工作者的認定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
19658.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
19660.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
本席一直都在關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
19660.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
19664.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
但文化部來說明說剛開始你們卻覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
19664.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
19667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
基於創作跟職業制有藝文工作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
19667.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
19669.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
身分是以自我認定為原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
19669.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
19671.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
無需經過他人審查或認可 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
19671.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
19675.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
但是為什麼要去認可去認定他的身分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
19675.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
19678.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
是因為希望我們給這些藝文工作者有個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
19678.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
19684.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
那有保障的話我們必須透過藝文工會協會來開始處理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
19684.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
19690.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
必須要有一個認可就是他確認他是本身是藝文工作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
19690.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
19694.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
藉由藝文工作的工會相關的工會協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
19694.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
19697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
我們來與這些藝文工作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
19697.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
19700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
給予他們一些不管在工作上的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
19700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
19704.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
甚至於是勞健保一個工作身分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
19704.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
19706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
取得這樣子的一個基本的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].start |
19706.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
19709.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].text |
那如果你沒有一個身分的認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
19709.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
19714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
沒有一個透過藝文工協會的這個介入來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
19714.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
19718.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
那其實這些藝文工作者通常他們不管是在生活上工作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
19718.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
19721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
或者是在這個勞健保的身分上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
19721.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
19723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
就比較沒有辦法取得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].start |
19723.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
19725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
那文化部你們有說你們在今年的一月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
19725.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
19727.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
有辦理座單會及諮詢會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
19727.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
19733.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
會中整藝文領域的職業工會來產業工會代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
19733.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
19737.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
然後會來做討論出一個認定的模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
19737.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
19739.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
比較有公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
19739.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
19742.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
那後續本席是希望文化部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
19744.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
19748.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
對於如何研議如何制定認定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
19748.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
19752.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
這個部分來協助藝文工會協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
19752.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
19759.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
就是從的可以有一個認定藝文工作者身分的這樣一個流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
19759.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
19761.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
一個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
19761.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
19765.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
那這個部分等一下請我們文化部這邊再說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
19765.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
19768.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
那第二個案子是第32案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
19768.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
19774.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
第32案的部分主要是這個業務是我們關於文化活動資訊調查局統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
19774.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
19777.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
有新聞指出中國文化滲透 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
19777.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
19783.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
它是以媒體公司擔任中間人的角色來辦理網紅競賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
19783.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
19785.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
那我們這邊有網紅去參賽之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
19785.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
19790.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
他就邀請網紅撰寫美食旅遊這樣子包裝的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
19790.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
19792.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
讓我們去製作出來的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
19792.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
19796.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
讓我們一般的民眾以為說大陸就是生活非常的愜意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
19796.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
19799.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
那非常的輕鬆物價非常的便宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
19799.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
19802.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
那沒有去提到說國際間國際新聞都有揭露到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
19802.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
19807.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
大陸現在目前面對的高失業率低薪讓我這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
19807.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
19812.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
所以其實這種比較片面的就是以美食旅遊這樣包裝的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
19812.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
19817.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
讓民眾很難以瞭解中國現在他們所面對的這樣的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
19817.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
19820.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
而對中國的生活有嚮往 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
19820.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
19823.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
我覺得這樣子是會混淆到我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
19823.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
19827.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
對自己國家這個有認同這個動搖 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
19827.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
19831.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
那這個部分我會提這個案子是要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
19831.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
19839.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
文化部這邊你們對於這樣子的狀況應該要有一個相關的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
19839.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
19845.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
那文化部裡面有說明說現在有積極推動提升本土文化產業競爭力這個方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
19845.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
19849.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
那也會加強輔導國內影視文創內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
19849.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
19855.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
那也支持公廣集團來產製比較獨立多元的新聞及節目內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
19855.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
19860.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
就是比較正向而且是真實面的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
19860.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
19864.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
那這邊本席是要提醒文化部就是針對中國的文化滲透及文化統戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
19864.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
19868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
我們還是要研議相關的文化政策來提醒民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
19868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
19871.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
那這一題這個案子我可以改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
19871.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
19874.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
那也希望說這個部分請你們一定要重視喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
19876.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
19878.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
19878.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
19882.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
好的是案號38資安的管理凍結兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
19882.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
19885.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
但我現在願意改成組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
19885.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
19891.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
那查閱預算書發現這個114年度文化部的同一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
19891.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
19897.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
資訊系統維護安全管理預算編列是8178萬1000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
19897.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
19902.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
而今年編列預算增加了將近兩千萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
19902.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
19905.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
但預算的項目跟內容幾乎一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
19905.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
19910.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
文字沒變但是預算增加兩千萬我覺得這很難說服大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
19910.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
19914.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
那後來文化部也來說明說是有新增相關業務 |
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19914.33 |
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19920.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
包括配合數位部來辦理相關計畫流量管理搬機房等等 |
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19920.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
19923.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
那這一點我能接受所以改成組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
19923.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
19925.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
但還是要強調一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
19925.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
19929.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
政府部門編列預算提出預算需求的時候不應該過於隨意 |
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19929.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
19931.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
每一筆錢都是人民納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
19931.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
19936.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
支持合理使用但預算編籌的原則就是要透明化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
19936.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
19939.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
說明清楚新增開銷的用途跟效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
19939.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
19942.33 |
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不要說就是用複製貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
19942.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
19944.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
這樣子我覺得不夠嚴謹以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
19948.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
19953.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
好請各位主管機關回覆委員所提之提問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
19955.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
19959.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
好 委員好我大概做一個統一的回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
19960.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
19962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
次要委的部分針對大概幾個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
19962.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
19964.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
一個是裁員開拓的面向 |
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19964.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
19968.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
不管是這個文化發展基金會還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
19970.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
19974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
發展基金還是這個公益勸募 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
19974.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
19978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
就是讓博物館的部分變成可以接受公益的做法 |
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19978.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
19982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
這個部分其實我們算是有在推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
19982.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
19984.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
但的確進度很慢因為很困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
19984.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
19988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
就是像文化基金裡面我們在5G |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
19988.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
19992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
或者是無線頻率使用還有OTD平台課稅這個部分 |
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19992.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
19993.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
因為有其他的主管機關 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
19998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
所以一直很難說讓他們統一說把那個費用納入我們的收入 |
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19998.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
20001.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
那至於讓這個博物館接受勸募的這一塊 |
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20001.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
20003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
因為之前其實有做過協調 |
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20003.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
20006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
那衛福部基本上仍然會怕影響大眾等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
20006.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
20009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
不過那個部分如果博物館是用基金的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
20009.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
20011.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
或者是有基金會在後面的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
20011.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
20013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
那導致可以接受這個捐款 |
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20013.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
20015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
所以我們還是先用這個方法處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
20015.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
20017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
因為如果我們不這樣處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
20017.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
20019.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
沒有公益勸募條例的開放的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
20019.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
20023.16 |
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我們就算有捐款也是要繳到國庫去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
20023.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
20026.16 |
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也不能留在博物館中做使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
20026.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
20027.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
那至於課程的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
20027.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
20029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
我們就是跟人事處我們來做配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
20029.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
20032.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
我們來做針對不管是文化基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
20032.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
20034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
我們現在其實已經有的是跟語言相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
20034.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
20036.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
國家語言這一塊其實已經有提供一些課程 |
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20036.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
20039.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
但是在文化基本法跟所謂文化行政的這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
20039.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
20041.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
我們來跟人事處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
20041.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
20044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
人事總處來做合作來做這樣的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
20044.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
20049.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
那至於在這個人員聘任上的文化專業人員的人事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
20049.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
20050.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
聘任條例的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
20050.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
20052.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
我們來跟考試院協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
20052.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
20054.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
因為我們最近正在跟考試院協談的 |
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20054.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
20056.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
比較是我們文化行政出國的部分 |
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20056.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
20059.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
因為我們在國外住外的人員 |
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20059.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
20062.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
他因為沒有強迫的義務跟外交部不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
20062.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
20064.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
所以我們一直在商量說這件事要怎麼解決 |
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20064.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
20069.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
那另外就是裴議委員對於AI的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
20069.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
20072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
有一些詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
20072.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
20074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
第一個在AI語料庫的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
20074.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
20077.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
我們現在基本上在AI語料庫的提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
20077.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
20078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
是跟書發部合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
20078.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
20080.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
我們應該是所有提供資料裡面的第一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
20080.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
20083.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
就是我們現在已經提供超過百萬筆的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
20083.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
20086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
進入這個國家主權AI的這個要求的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
20086.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
20089.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
那現在比較大的問題是出現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
20089.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
20091.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
我們有些資料並沒有擁有他的著作權 |
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20091.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
20093.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
所以在著作權授權上面 |
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20093.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
20096.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
現在有用這個AI創新利用條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
20096.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
20098.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
希望能夠克服這個著作權的問題 |
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20098.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
20101.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
但在沒有著作權疑慮的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
20101.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
20102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
我們就是盡可能的提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
20102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
20106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
希望用這個方式讓繁中的內容可以上到雲端 |
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20106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
20108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
那至於在AI的創作規範上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
20108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
20110.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
這一題其實是高難度的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
20110.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
20112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
難度我們大概有兩個處理方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
20112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
20113.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
第一個處理方式就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
20113.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
20116.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
我們很專注在真人的創作權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
20116.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
20118.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
就基本上我們仍然只承認真人的著作權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
20118.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
20119.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
AI我們到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
20119.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
20122.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
承認他站在輔導協助應用的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
20122.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
20124.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
而且他必須做結識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
20124.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
20125.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
他在不結識的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
20125.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
20128.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
我們會認為那是一種詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
20128.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
20130.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
所以我們未來甚至是可以把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
20130.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
20132.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
我們的獎棍的獎金追回等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
20132.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
20134.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
那但是呢真正困難的事情是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
20136.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
他如果有使用AI我們知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
20136.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
20139.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
所以我們現在做的一個案子是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
20139.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
20141.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
如何用AI辨識AI |
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20141.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
20144.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
就是說如果大家提進來的創作的作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
20144.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
20147.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
他有使用AI在他沒有揭露的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
20147.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
20148.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
文化部能不能夠辨識 |
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20148.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
20150.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
所以現在正在做這個方案的研議 |
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20150.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
20152.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
希望能透過辨識來做這個區分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
20152.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
20156.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
那至於協助AI成為這個文化內容的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
20156.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
20159.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
這個工具之一這件事情 |
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20159.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
20160.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
的確有在進行 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
20162.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
但他還沒有辦法到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
20162.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
20164.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
我們讓創作人真人有一條 |
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20164.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
20166.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
這個獎金跟真文的路線 |
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20166.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
20168.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
然後讓AI有一條真文的路線 |
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20168.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
20169.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
然後讓AI有一條 |
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20169.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
20172.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
因為整個AI對於著作權的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
20174.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
跟對於創作權的這個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
20176.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
這個比例跟成分這件事情 |
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20176.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
20178.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
我想在全世界都還沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
20178.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
20179.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
發展出一套標準 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
20182.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
到目前來說我們要保障的是說 |
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20182.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
20185.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
即使利用AI他都不影響真人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
20185.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
20188.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
這個就業率不影響真人的薪資 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
20188.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
20190.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
我們現在比較在做的是還在這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
20191.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
20195.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
那在這個郭一群委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
20195.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
20198.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
在談到藝文工作者認定標準的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
20198.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
20200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
這個部分我們現在的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
20200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
20202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
的確是跟工協會來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
20202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
20205.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
原因是因為在已經發生的業務範圍裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
20205.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
20207.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
譬如像出版業像影視業 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
20207.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
20209.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
他只要有公司只要有受僱 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
20209.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
20210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
其實他就會進入所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
20210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
20211.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
藝文產業的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
20211.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
20213.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
那個部分的認定其實不太有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
20213.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
20215.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
現在有問題的會是出現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
20215.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
20216.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
自由業的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
20216.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
20218.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
他可能是斜槓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
20218.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
20220.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
他可能是在業餘的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
20220.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
20222.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
從事藝文創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
20222.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
20224.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
那因為這在藝文界是非常普遍的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
20224.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
20226.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
尤其在學校任職然後兼任藝文創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
20226.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
20229.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
所以他通常如果有另外一個職業身分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
20229.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
20231.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
他就會被另外一個職業身分認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
20231.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
20233.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
只有純粹的創作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
20233.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
20236.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
通常他會在新秀跟起步的階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
20236.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
20241.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
的那個時候才會是這個認定上難的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
20241.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
20243.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
那所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
20243.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
20245.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
第一個我們就是縮小他的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
20245.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
20248.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
盡可能的讓可被辨認的人被辨認出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
20248.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
20250.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
受到勞動法的基本保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
20250.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
20252.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
那針對不能辨認的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
20252.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
20254.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
我們再來跟工學會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
20254.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
20256.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
那如何讓他變成是職業工會的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
20256.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
20258.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
20261.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
20263.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
那是那個秀巴委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
20263.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
20265.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
20266.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
20268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
中國的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
20268.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
20270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
所謂內容統戰的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
20270.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
20272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
內容統戰的部分我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
20272.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
20274.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
除了剛剛委員提到的我們是增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
20274.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
20276.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
本土的內容的產制以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
20276.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
20278.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
我們能做到的現在的政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
20278.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
20280.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
是強化媒體識讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
20280.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
20282.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
就是說在這些內容裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
20282.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
20284.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
他具有他的背後的統戰意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
20284.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
20286.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
或者是他在媒體上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
20286.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
20288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
其實很多的時候他的內容是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
20288.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
20290.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
有錯誤的其實是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
20290.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
20292.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
類似詐騙的手段讓大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
20292.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
20294.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
誤認那這些媒體識讀的能力是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
20294.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
20296.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
我還不在政策上可以做強化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
20296.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
20298.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
大概是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
20298.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
20300.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
20300.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
20302.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
然後針對資訊的部分我想剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
20302.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
20304.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
羅委員已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
20304.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
20306.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
跟羅委員做解釋我所以這邊就 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
20306.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
20308.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
不再多做新的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
20308.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
20310.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
以上總和回答謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
20310.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
20312.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
好目前我們我是第22啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
20312.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
20314.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
也該做決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
20317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
20319.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
我是要委員請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
20319.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
20321.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
還是請謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
20321.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
20323.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
十四次長的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
20323.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
20325.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
我請部長還是要強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
20325.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
20327.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
督導我的四個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
20327.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
20329.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
都涉及跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
20329.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
20332.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
的協調請善用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
20332.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
20334.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
行政院文化匯報 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
20334.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
20336.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
的機制進行有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
20336.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
20338.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
跨部會協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
20338.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
20340.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
也請善用文化基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
20340.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
20342.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
的高位授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
20342.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
20344.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
讓我們能夠有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
20344.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
20346.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
底氣去跟各部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
20346.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
20348.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
來配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
20348.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
20350.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
文化發展基金我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
20350.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
20352.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
非常難當初催生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
20352.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
20354.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
它就很難但是完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
20354.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
20356.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
現在要協調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
20356.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
20358.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
跨部會就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
20358.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
20360.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
主計總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
20361.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
20363.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
當然數發部也會搶預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
20363.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
20365.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
5G市照的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
20365.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
20367.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
那個費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
20367.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
20369.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
但是主計總處是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
20369.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
20371.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
文化匯報的當然成員我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
20371.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
20373.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
部長不要放棄努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
20374.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
20376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
我也會持續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
20376.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
20378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
大家都在搶裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
20378.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
20380.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
文化不能輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
20379.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
20381.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
然後在博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
20381.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
20383.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
的那個部分博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
20383.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
20385.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
放寬修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
20385.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
20387.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
跨部會的溝通有兩個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
20387.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
20389.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
一個當然是財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
20389.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
20391.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
財政部不想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
20391.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
20393.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
給予優惠可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
20393.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
20395.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
我們在運動產業也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
20395.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
20397.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
其實在文化產業也 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
20397.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
20399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
逐步的能夠給予租稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
20399.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
20401.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
的優惠我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
20401.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
20403.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
再加把勁跟財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
20403.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
20405.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
部再溝通是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
20405.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
20407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
可能的然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
20407.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
20409.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
我們在博物館的勸募開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
20409.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
20411.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
公益勸募另外一個影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
20411.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
20413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
的部會叫做衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
20413.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
20415.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
衛福部會認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
20415.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
20417.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
現在的勸募團體都給社福 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
20417.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
20419.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
優先但同樣的 |
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20419.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
20421.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
文化不也應當優先嗎 |
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20422.98 |
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20424.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
所以說在這個博物館 |
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20424.98 |
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20426.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
的擴大財源的部分 |
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20426.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
20428.98 |
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我想衛福部跟財政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
20428.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
20430.98 |
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是我們要跨部會溝通的 |
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20430.98 |
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20432.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
另外我兩個案對於人事 |
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20432.98 |
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20434.98 |
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的包括 |
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20434.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
20436.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
聘任人事人員人事 |
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20436.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
20438.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
條例考試院願意做 |
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20438.98 |
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20440.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
也在找你那我們就跟考試院 |
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20440.98 |
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20442.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
一起來推進 |
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20442.98 |
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20444.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6339].text |
然後對於那個公務人力的訓練 |
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20444.98 |
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20446.98 |
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剛剛十四次長也說了我們會跟人事總處 |
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20446.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6341].end |
20448.98 |
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來強化這四個 |
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20448.98 |
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20450.98 |
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案都是要 |
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20450.98 |
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20452.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6343].text |
跨部會所以我是非常的 |
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20452.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].end |
20454.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6344].text |
與眾欣賞這幾個案子 |
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20454.98 |
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20456.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6345].text |
大概都追蹤了五到十年 |
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20456.98 |
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20458.98 |
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我相信大家是 |
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20458.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].end |
20460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6347].text |
有心要做有困難我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].start |
20460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].end |
20462.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6348].text |
來排除那我四個案子 |
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20462.98 |
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20464.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].text |
在藉由我審預算提出 |
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20464.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].end |
20466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6350].text |
我的提醒跟監督 |
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20466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].end |
20468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].text |
我可以改主決議但我會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].start |
20468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].end |
20470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6352].text |
持續監督謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].start |
20471.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].end |
20473.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6353].text |
陳秀八委員 |
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20473.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
20475.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].text |
謝謝主席剛剛二十七案這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].start |
20475.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
20477.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].text |
次長有回答但是 |
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20477.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].end |
20479.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6356].text |
我要強調一下說我這邊關心的 |
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20479.88 |
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20481.88 |
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主要就是這一些他本身 |
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20481.88 |
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20483.88 |
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他是自由自由 |
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20483.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].end |
20485.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].text |
工作者那他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].start |
20485.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6360].end |
20487.88 |
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可能不屬於任何一個很 |
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20487.88 |
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20489.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
可以直接認定的 |
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20489.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].end |
20491.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
這樣所以他會沒有辦法取得 |
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20491.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].end |
20493.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].text |
一些相關的公協會的 |
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20493.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
20495.88 |
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協助所以才要來協助他們 |
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20495.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
20497.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
認定他們的這些藝文 |
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20497.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].end |
20499.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6366].text |
工作者身份讓他們再取得 |
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20499.88 |
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20501.88 |
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一些政府的資源或者說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
20501.88 |
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20503.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
一些譬如說我剛剛講的這個勞健保 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].start |
20503.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
20505.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
的身份的話這個是 |
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20505.88 |
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20507.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
我們想要去協助他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
20507.88 |
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20509.88 |
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你們現在已經有開始慢慢在做就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].start |
20509.88 |
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20511.88 |
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跟相關的公協會做談跟諮詢了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
20511.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
20513.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
也希望說我們慢慢的就是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
20513.88 |
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20515.88 |
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那個那個 |
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20515.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
20517.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
範圍慢慢可以縮小 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
20517.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].end |
20519.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
比較去就是對這些 |
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20519.88 |
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20521.88 |
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可以協助 |
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20521.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
20523.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
的部分我們慢慢的離親 |
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20523.88 |
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20525.88 |
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那你剛剛這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].start |
20525.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].end |
20527.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].text |
回覆呢我會希望說後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].start |
20527.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].end |
20529.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].text |
你們有什麼進度的話再給 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].start |
20529.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
20531.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].text |
我報告那我這樣可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
20531.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
20533.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
謝謝 |
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20535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].end |
20537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].text |
好我們現在 |
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20538.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].end |
20540.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].text |
處理 |
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20540.87 |
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20542.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].text |
綜合規劃提案號19到40 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].start |
20542.87 |
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20544.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].text |
審查改為主決議 |
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20544.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].end |
20546.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].text |
19 22 22 |
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20546.87 |
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20548.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].text |
23 24 25 27 28 |
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20548.87 |
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20550.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].text |
29 33 |
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20550.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].end |
20552.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].text |
1還有26 |
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20552.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
20556.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
3233334536373839 |
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20556.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].end |
20558.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].text |
處理上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].start |
20559.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].end |
20561.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].text |
本幕有沒有委員要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].start |
20561.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].end |
20563.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].text |
簡略凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].start |
20565.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].end |
20567.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].text |
好沒有那我們就預算招列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].start |
20567.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].end |
20569.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].text |
接著處理第三幕 |
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20569.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].end |
20571.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].text |
文化資源業務 |
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20571.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].end |
20573.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].text |
提案號第41案至 |
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20573.59 |
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20575.59 |
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53案但是呢 |
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20575.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
20577.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].text |
只有13案喔 |
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20577.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
20579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].text |
所以請問是否就不要分解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].start |
20579.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].end |
20581.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].text |
整幕一併處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].start |
20583.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
20585.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
好同意喔 |
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20585.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
20587.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
那我們就我看一下 |
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20591.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].end |
20593.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].text |
這樣子我們就是到41到53喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].start |
20594.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
20596.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
好麻煩大家謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].start |
20598.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
20600.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
20600.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].end |
20602.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].text |
OK那我們到著來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
20602.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
20604.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
武力化委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
20609.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].end |
20611.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
謝謝主席 |
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20611.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
20613.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
在第三幕的部分 |
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20613.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
20615.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
我有兩案要說明 |
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20615.28 |
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20617.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
第44案跟第51案 |
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20617.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
20619.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
那 |
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20619.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
20621.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
這個部分呢可以改為 |
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20621.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
20623.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
主決議喔 |
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20623.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
20625.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
不過我還是說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
20625.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
20627.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
兩案一起講因為兩案 |
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20627.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
20629.28 |
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一個是營造 |
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20629.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
20631.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
社區營造及村落文化發展 |
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20631.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
20633.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
那另外一個是地方 |
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20633.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
20635.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
創生文化事業發展 |
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20635.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
20637.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
那這兩案其實最主要 |
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20637.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
20639.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
的原因都是在關心 |
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20639.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
20641.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
原住民族的傳統建物 |
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20641.28 |
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20643.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
的一個保存 |
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20643.28 |
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20645.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
因為過去按照我們 |
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20645.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
20647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
文化部文資局喔 |
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20647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
20649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
通常都必須要取得 |
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20649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
20651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
文資身份才有辦法 |
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20651.28 |
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20653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
進行下一階段 |
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20653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
20655.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
的不論是人才 |
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20655.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
20657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
培育或者是 |
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20657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
20659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].text |
修復等等喔但是 |
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20659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].end |
20661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].text |
我覺得這個部分對原住民族 |
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20661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
20663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
來講喔因為我們的 |
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20663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
20665.28 |
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建物可能於是 |
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跟時間賽跑所以 |
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如果要依照那樣的程序 |
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就是旷日廢時緩不濟急 |
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那很多都 |
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因為這樣子而流失 |
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所以我是覺得 |
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因為我們的這些 |
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傳統建物很多 |
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像是台灣盧凱族 |
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的石板屋它是 |
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具備實際居住的 |
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功能喔而且呢 |
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它也保有 |
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我們台灣的一個 |
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建築特色不過 |
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因為法令的一個沒有 |
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辦法支持技術沒有 |
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辦法支持經費的一個 |
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沒有辦法支持 |
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所以呢就很多 |
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就流失所以在這個 |
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地方我看到一個 |
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是有原住民村落文化 |
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發展計畫另外一個 |
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是有文化部推動 |
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博物館與地方文化 |
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館發展計畫那我 |
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特別是想說雖然 |
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我們有這幾個計畫不具 |
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文資保存的可以尋這個途徑 |
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但是可能審查人員沒有 |
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概念所以即便透過 |
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這個去申請很多都被打 |
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回票所以我還是希望 |
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說如果這個計畫 |
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能夠多跟審查委員溝通 |
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那或者是我更希望 |
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的是必須要建立一個 |
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長期且穩定的補助 |
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跟傳習制度 |
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就這些沒有文資 |
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保存身份的這些傳統 |
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建物所以我特別提出 |
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這樣的一個預算提案 |
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那也希望能夠得到一個 |
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比較完整的書面 |
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報告那我這兩案都可以改 |
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為主決議謝謝 |
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20763.63 |
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陳培育委員 |
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20767.83 |
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好謝謝主席這一幕我有兩案 |
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第一個是47藝術家住村 |
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大家都知道 |
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其實藝術家住村 |
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現在在文化部 |
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20777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
橫跨兩個司 |
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20777.83 |
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20779.83 |
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一個是藝發司第二個是 |
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文資司來看藝發司主責 |
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20783.83 |
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什麼呢主要是負責民間的 |
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藝術村還有地方政府 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
如果有住村計畫 |
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20789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
希望文化部給予補助還有協助 |
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20789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
20791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
整體的規劃文資司 |
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20791.83 |
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20793.83 |
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是負責管理公家博物館 |
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或者是文資的場所像是 |
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20797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
歷史建築如果一樣有住村業務 |
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20799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
就歸文資司可是如果 |
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20801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
講到現在這兩個司 |
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20803.83 |
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對於所謂住村藝術家的 |
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20803.83 |
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20805.83 |
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待遇我要說 |
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20805.83 |
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20807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
比起台灣相近 |
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20807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
20809.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
的日韓我們真的是非常非常 |
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20809.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
20811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
驚人的低例如說 |
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20811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
20813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
我們現在 |
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20813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
20815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
可能只補助少少少少的工作費 |
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20815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
20817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
甚至可能每個月 |
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20817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
20819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
提供不到1萬塊甚至還有 |
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20819.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
20821.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
一些是沒有薪水的狀況 |
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20821.83 |
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20823.83 |
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而在沒有薪水的狀況同時 |
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20823.83 |
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20825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
甚至還綁定藝術家 |
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20825.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
20827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
不得離開該管所 |
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20827.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
20829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
一定的時間材料費交通費 |
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20829.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
20831.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].text |
生活費要藝術家自掏腰包 |
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20831.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
20833.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].text |
更不要說其他的 |
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20833.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].end |
20835.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].text |
行政協助而在這樣的 |
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20835.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].end |
20837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
情況下我們甚至還要求 |
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20837.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
20839.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
藝術家要勞動 |
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20839.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
20841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
除相關滿意的藝術成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
20841.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].end |
20843.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].text |
我會說這相當的不合理 |
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20843.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].end |
20845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
我覺得要嘛就是 |
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20845.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
20847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
大家覺得住村藝術家的費用 |
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20847.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
20849.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
很高大家不想辦那也就算了 |
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20849.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
20851.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
可是辦了之後又給一個這麼低薪的狀況 |
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20851.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
20853.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
我覺得這是一個非常荒謬的現象 |
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20853.83 |
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20855.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
如果來參考日韓 |
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20855.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
20857.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
相較台灣是比較近的國家 |
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20857.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
20859.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
他們可能會協助的有哪些 |
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20859.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].end |
20861.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
提供住宿 |
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20861.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
20863.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
生活的必要津貼 |
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20863.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
20865.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
交通費來回機票 |
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20865.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
20867.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
創作媒材費甚至有一些還提供 |
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20867.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
20869.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
保險翻譯創作諮詢 |
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20869.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
20871.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
創作設備展覽空間 |
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20871.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
20873.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
如果回到剛剛思雅委員所說的 |
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20873.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
20875.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
很多博物館其實有機會做勸募 |
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20875.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
20877.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
我認為我們很多公家博物館 |
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20877.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
20879.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
或是文資場所或是這些地方的 |
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20879.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
20881.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
住村計畫的場所 |
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20881.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
20883.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
如果在相關住村藝術家 |
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20883.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
20885.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
計畫推展之下 |
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20885.83 |
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20887.83 |
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經費有困難也許真的 |
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20887.83 |
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20889.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
也可以變成一個勸募的主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
20889.83 |
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20891.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
所以我要說在裁員 |
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20891.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
20893.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
跟對藝術家的態度 |
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20893.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
20895.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
跟想像的這個平衡之下 |
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20895.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
20897.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
如何發展出更好的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
20897.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
20899.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
住村計畫我覺得是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
20899.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
20901.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
非常重要的業務進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
20901.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
20903.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
我們也希望可以持續跟文化部對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
20903.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
20905.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
20905.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
20907.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
再來5322是兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
20907.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
20909.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
其實從籌備處 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
20909.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
20911.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
開始到目前這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
20911.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
20913.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
我們知道籌備處已經辦了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
20913.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
20915.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
14場兒童座談會、諮詢會、工作方式集 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
20915.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
20917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
可是目前我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
20917.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
20919.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
都比較是單點單點性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
20919.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
20921.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
或者是單項的場館宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
20921.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
20923.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
可是對於國家兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
20923.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
20925.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
目前自己的發展定位跟願景 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
20925.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
20927.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
我們其實還是看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
20927.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
20929.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
一個比較具體的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
20929.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
20931.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
可是看著這個硬體建築逐漸完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
20931.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
20933.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
到底對於博物館的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
20933.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
20935.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
核心任務到底有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
20935.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
20937.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
而核心任務裡面還要包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
20937.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
20939.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
典藏、還要包含跟社會溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
20939.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
20941.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
還有包含歷史跟願景的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
20941.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
20943.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
20943.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
20945.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
還有如何跟社區共融這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
20945.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
20947.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
有太多太多的觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
20947.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
20949.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
我們都一直看不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
20949.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
20951.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
國家兒童未來館有比較長矩的進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
20951.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
20953.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
我們還是很擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
20953.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
20955.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
所以我還是希望持續監督在兒童未來館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
20955.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
20957.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
20957.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
20959.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
希望文化部在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
20959.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
20961.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
真的要持續的加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
20962.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
20964.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
這兩個案子我就併動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
20964.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
20966.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
阿烏培委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
20968.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
20970.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
好這一幕我的提案是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
20972.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
43、50跟52 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
20974.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
那我就就前兩案來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
20974.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
20976.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
第一個是這個在質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
20976.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
20978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
我有很關切的百大文化基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
20978.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
20980.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
這個我們是第一期舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
20980.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
20982.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
那也很感謝在台北市的七個基地當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
20982.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
20984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
有三處是在我的選區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
20984.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
20986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
中正萬華區 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
20986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
20988.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
所以我們就特別來關心說我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
20988.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
20990.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
執行的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
20990.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
20992.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
那我是還是有一點要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
20992.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
20994.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
因為我們選這種這個基地以我的這個選區為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].start |
20994.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].end |
20996.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
三個當中有一個是公立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].start |
20996.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
20998.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
一個就是市政府文化局的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].start |
20998.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].end |
21000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
然後轄下的一個是民間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
21000.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
21002.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
像這個小劇場那有一個是OT |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
21002.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
21004.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
叫古嶺街小劇場是雖然市立場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
21004.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
21006.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
但是民間團隊在營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
21006.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
21008.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
因為我們補助的經費是兩年五十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
21008.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
21010.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
其實我看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].start |
21010.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
21012.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
就是如果對於本來市府文化局 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
21012.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
21014.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
轄下場館來說其實兩年五十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
21014.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
21016.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
跟他們的業務經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
21016.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
21018.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
比起來其實不算是一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
21018.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
21020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
不算是一個非常大的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
21020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
21022.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
很錦上添花但是對民間團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
21022.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
21024.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
來講兩年五十萬可能就是很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
21024.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
21026.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
幫助所以還是希望說未來我們在選文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
21026.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
21028.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
基地的時候可以就這個資源的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
21028.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
21030.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
也可以納入評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
21030.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
21032.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
對民間團體這可能是很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
21032.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
21034.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
一筆注意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
21034.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
21036.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
那第二個是我們的計畫我們也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
21036.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
21038.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
這個行政院很很支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
21038.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
21040.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
希望可以跟觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
21040.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
21042.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
可以來合作把文化基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
21042.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
21044.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
也可以來去推廣他的觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
21044.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
21046.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
那這一點我覺得就要再多加強了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
21046.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
21048.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
因為我們文化部有一個文化地圖網站 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
21048.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
21050.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
之前是很久都沒有更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
21050.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
21052.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
最近開始在維護 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
21052.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
21054.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
但是我們現在看起來我們這個觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
21054.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
21056.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
因為我們請地方政府要提出這個路線 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
21056.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
21058.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
大部分的資訊都是在網站上面去呈現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
21058.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
21060.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
這個部分是不是交通部觀光署 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
21060.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
21062.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
跟我們文化部的協作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
21062.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
21064.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
還要再多加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
21064.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
21066.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
因為很像以我們台北市這些點都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
21066.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
21068.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
都真的很有觀光的潛力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
21068.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
21070.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
希望要來多加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
21070.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
21072.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
第二個五十案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
21072.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
21074.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
這個我們台灣建築文化中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
21074.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
21076.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
這也是過去思想委員很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
21076.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
21078.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
21078.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
21080.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
那我們現在未來希望活化地點選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
21080.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
21082.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
正好就是昭和樓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
21082.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
21084.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
那昭和樓是我過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
21084.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
21086.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
我是這個文資的提報人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
21086.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
21088.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
當時我是提報人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
21088.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
21090.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
所以有關於昭和樓後來被審定為文資 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
21090.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
21092.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
然後他後續的活化使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
21092.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
21094.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
我真的非常關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
21094.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
21096.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
所以本來一度有跟你們討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
21096.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
21098.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
那現在既然已經選定是建築文化中心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
21098.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
21100.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
我就希望說我們關於未來的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].start |
21100.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].end |
21102.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].text |
包含人力等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].start |
21102.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].end |
21104.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].text |
要提早來準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
21104.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].end |
21106.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
那這個部分未來是台博基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
21106.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].end |
21108.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].text |
是主體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].start |
21108.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].end |
21110.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].text |
那如果有需要的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].start |
21110.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].end |
21112.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].text |
要請文化部要來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].start |
21112.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].end |
21114.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].text |
以上說明,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
21113.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].end |
21115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
歐呆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].start |
21116.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].end |
21118.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].text |
再說吧委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
21120.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
21122.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].text |
謝謝主席,我在這邊的案子是第46案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
21122.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
21124.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].text |
46案的部分呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
21124.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
21126.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].text |
是博物館事業推展的這個業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].start |
21126.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
21128.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].start |
21128.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].end |
21130.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].text |
詳細的博物館許多場館是免費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].start |
21130.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].end |
21132.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].text |
入場,但是如果博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].start |
21132.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].end |
21134.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].text |
他是有套展的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].start |
21134.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].end |
21136.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].text |
是通常是另外需要收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
21136.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
21138.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
那麼如果是有育兒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
21138.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
21140.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
家庭,就是爸爸媽媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
21140.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
21142.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
帶著兩個小孩,三個小孩,這樣單次入場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].start |
21142.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].end |
21144.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].text |
花費可能都超過千元 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].start |
21144.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].end |
21146.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].text |
這也是一個蠻大的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].start |
21146.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].end |
21148.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].text |
所以我這邊提這個案子是想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].start |
21148.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].end |
21150.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].text |
希望說文化部你們來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].start |
21150.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].end |
21152.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].text |
對於育兒家庭是不是有更友善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].start |
21152.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].end |
21154.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].text |
一些相關的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
21154.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].end |
21156.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].text |
除了票價之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].start |
21156.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].end |
21158.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].text |
就是也希望說我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].start |
21158.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].end |
21160.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].text |
場館內會設置一些適合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
21160.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].end |
21162.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].text |
兒上使用的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].start |
21162.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].end |
21164.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].text |
我們要有,就是除了有友善 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].start |
21164.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].end |
21166.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
育兒家庭的這個票價 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].start |
21166.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].end |
21168.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].text |
的方案之外,我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].start |
21169.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].end |
21171.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
在我們的設施就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].start |
21171.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].end |
21173.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
兒子,兒童及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].start |
21173.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].end |
21175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
親子,觀眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
21175.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
21177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
如果有這樣子主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].start |
21177.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
21179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
服務對象的展示空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
21179.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].end |
21181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
比較有多感官互動的這個體驗設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
21181.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].end |
21183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].text |
也會比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].start |
21183.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].end |
21185.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].text |
讓家長願意帶孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].start |
21185.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
21187.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
來參展,來互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].start |
21188.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].end |
21190.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
我們也透過這樣多元探索的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].start |
21190.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].end |
21192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
來引導兒上學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].start |
21192.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].end |
21194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
所以這個部分我希望文化部能夠持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
21194.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].end |
21196.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].text |
推廣設置友善兒童的這個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].start |
21196.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
21198.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
而且我希望你們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
21198.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
21200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].text |
統整目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].start |
21200.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].end |
21202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
文化部想要下場館的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
21202.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].end |
21204.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
所有的兒上設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].start |
21204.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
21206.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
設置的設置情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].start |
21206.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
21208.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
以及有一些場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].start |
21208.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
21210.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
可能在這三方面的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].start |
21210.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].end |
21212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].text |
比較缺乏的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
21212.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
21214.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
未來你們規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
21214.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].end |
21216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
設置的這個期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].start |
21216.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].end |
21218.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].text |
那我想這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].start |
21218.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].end |
21220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].text |
關於票價的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].start |
21220.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].end |
21222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
友善的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].start |
21222.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].end |
21224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
可以從很多方面去規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].start |
21224.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].end |
21226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].start |
21226.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].end |
21228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].text |
如果是家庭爸爸媽媽帶小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].start |
21228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].end |
21230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].text |
帶一個小孩,帶兩個小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].start |
21230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].end |
21232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].text |
甚至帶三個小孩以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].start |
21232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].end |
21234.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].text |
打的折數會越來越高 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].start |
21234.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].end |
21236.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
這樣才是,第一個我們也友善就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].start |
21236.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].end |
21238.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].text |
這個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].start |
21238.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
21240.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].text |
鼓勵說家長他們願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].start |
21240.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].end |
21242.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].text |
孕育子女,然後一起帶子女來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].start |
21242.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
21244.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].text |
所以在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].start |
21244.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].end |
21246.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].text |
票價的方案上面我希望說你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].start |
21246.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].end |
21248.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
可以為這種這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].start |
21248.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
21250.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
就是有家裡面有小孩的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].start |
21250.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
21252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
這樣的家庭去做考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].start |
21252.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
21254.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].text |
那這等一下請你們說明一下,好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].start |
21258.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
21260.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
好,無視要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].start |
21261.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
21263.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
好,我有四個案喔,很簡單的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
21263.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
21265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
四十二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].start |
21265.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
21267.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
部長我會非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].start |
21267.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
21269.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
好多案都是博物館的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
21269.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
21271.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
是因為我們好不容易去年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
21271.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
21273.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
七月公告的博物館政策白皮書 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
21273.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
21275.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
我都是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
21275.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
21277.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
這個白皮書裡頭的執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
21277.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
21279.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
有沒有到位提出我的監督跟提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].start |
21279.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
21281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
四十二案就聚焦在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].start |
21281.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
21283.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
依據國務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].start |
21283.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
21285.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
對不起,ICOM |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
21285.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
21287.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
國際博物館協會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
21287.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
21289.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
世界各國都在做博物館的倫理規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
21289.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
21291.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
好,那台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
21291.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
21293.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
目前唯一在做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
21293.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
21295.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
我看到的是台南市立美術館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].start |
21297.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
21299.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
它有從業人員的倫理守則 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
21299.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
21301.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
那是我們的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].start |
21301.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
21303.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
可以來學習的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
21303.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
21305.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
所以說我們轄下的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
21305.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
21307.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
管社都還沒有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
21307.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
21309.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
倫理守則的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
21309.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
21311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
請部長來督促 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].start |
21311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
21313.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
這是第四十二案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].start |
21313.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].end |
21315.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
那第四十五案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].start |
21315.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].end |
21317.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
也是提醒喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].start |
21317.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
21319.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
博物館法二零一五年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].start |
21319.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
21321.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
修到現在其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
21321.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
21323.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
十一年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
21323.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
21325.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].text |
那剛剛講的依據博物館法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
21325.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
21327.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].text |
要每四年提出博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
21327.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
21329.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
政策白皮書,但是我們都有所拖延 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
21329.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
21331.06 |
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還有我們必須依法 |
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21331.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
21333.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
來辦理全國博物館論壇 |
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21333.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
21335.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
上一次的全國博物館論壇 |
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21335.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
21337.06 |
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到現在已經七年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].start |
21337.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].end |
21339.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].text |
我也認為應當 |
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21339.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
21341.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
更進一步的跟博物館界 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
21341.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
21343.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
的專業人士、文化人來對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
21343.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
21345.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
所以這是我的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
21345.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
21347.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
在第四十五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
21347.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
21349.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
然後後面呢,我第四十八案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
21349.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
21351.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
因為故宮喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
21351.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
21353.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
因為故宮喔,的國保館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
21353.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
21355.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
它有一個很大的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
21355.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
21357.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
就是對於文資修復 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
21357.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
21359.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
的跨管設的服務 |
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21359.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
21361.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
我也希望文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
21361.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
21363.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
能夠強化跟故宮 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
21363.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
21367.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
善用這個故宮國保館的硬體跟軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
21367.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
21369.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
跟最新的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
21369.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
21371.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
一起來研商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
21371.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
21373.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
建置一個國家級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
21373.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
21375.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
文資修復及人才培育的基地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
21375.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
21377.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
這個一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
21377.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
21379.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
我們應當跟故宮來合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
21379.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
21381.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
那第四十九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
21381.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
21383.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
就是台灣建築博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].start |
21383.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
21385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
或是建築文化中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
21385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
21387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
那已經推了十年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
21387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
21389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
我第一次質詢是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
21389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
21391.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
二零一七年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
21391.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
21393.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
真的是十年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
21393.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
21395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
我知道大家都在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
21395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
21397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
我也開了幾十場會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].start |
21397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
21399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
最後的一哩路 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
21399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
21401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
不管是選址相對的明確了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
21401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
21403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
但是它運作的方式跟機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
21403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
21405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
我們還是不放棄啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].start |
21405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].end |
21407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
我也相信會做出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
21407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
21409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
很好的成績 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
21409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
21411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].text |
我最近跟一些國際的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].start |
21411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
21413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
建築界的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
21413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
21415.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
互動他們都非常給予高度的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].start |
21415.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
21417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
所以我這四個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].start |
21417.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
21419.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
我提出我的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
21419.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
21421.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
那等一下看看大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
21421.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
21423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
有要病動嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
21423.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
21425.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
再做最後的處置謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].start |
21427.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
21429.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
好,那委員的發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
21429.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
21431.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
請主管機關回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].start |
21432.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
21434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
有關武力華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
21434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
21436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
關心英明忘記記憶傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].start |
21436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
21438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
這個部分我們會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].start |
21438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
21440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
我們公告的時候我們會去輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
21440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
21442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
我們部落來做相關的申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].start |
21442.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
21444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
那這部分會盡量來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].start |
21444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
21446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
那關於百拉基地區我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
21446.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
21448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
跟觀光署其實一直都密切的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
21448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
21450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
那包括其他部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
21450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
21452.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
包括環境部會、農業部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
21452.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
21454.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].text |
其實我們都一直經營努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].start |
21454.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
21456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
而且跟縣市政府也經營努力在做串聯 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].start |
21456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
21458.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
做相關的行銷推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
21458.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
21460.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
讓百拉基農園更容易被清淨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].start |
21460.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
21462.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
那陳憲法委員說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
21462.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
21464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
其實我們各博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].start |
21464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
21466.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
都基於建構友善兒童的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
21466.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
21468.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
包括科技的引入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
21468.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
21470.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
那至於票價友善的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
21470.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
21472.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
可能要針對不同的特產 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
21472.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
21474.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
可能再去規劃相關的比較友善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
21474.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
21476.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
一個家庭投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
21476.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
21478.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
這個部分可能我們會陸續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
21478.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
21480.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
朝這個方向來做努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].start |
21480.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
21482.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
那有關於博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].start |
21482.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
21484.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
包括我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].start |
21485.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
21487.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
那個建築博物館也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
21487.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
21489.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
為什麼其實這個部分其實都會配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
21489.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
21491.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
台博館也好跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
21491.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
21493.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
建築基金會來做相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
21493.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
21495.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
一個經費上的爭取跟努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
21501.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].end |
21503.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].text |
接續的回應沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].start |
21504.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].end |
21506.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].text |
還是都回應完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].start |
21509.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].end |
21511.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
同意市長回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].start |
21511.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].end |
21513.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].text |
這麼多委員只有一個市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
21513.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
21515.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
待會就不要再看我了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
21515.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].end |
21517.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].text |
你們就是一個部會自己轉交麥克風 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
21517.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
21519.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
就直接回答好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
21519.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
21521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
有關陳培育委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
21521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
21523.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
關心住村的部分的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
21523.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
21525.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
21525.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
21527.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
在住村的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
21527.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].end |
21529.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].text |
除了我們有要求民間團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].start |
21529.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].end |
21531.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
他們自己所經營的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].start |
21531.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].end |
21533.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].text |
藝術村 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].start |
21533.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].end |
21535.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
要提供基本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].start |
21535.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].end |
21537.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
這個零用金的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].start |
21537.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
21539.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
以及一些創作的費用之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].start |
21539.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
21541.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
我們在我們自己扶植的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
21541.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
21543.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
送我們的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
21543.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
21545.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
到國外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
21545.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
21547.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
這個住村到國外的藝術村 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
21547.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].end |
21549.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
去住村的時候我們給的藝術家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
21549.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].end |
21551.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
的這個費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
21551.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
21553.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
也會同步的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
21553.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
21555.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
調整經驗度會來提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
21555.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].end |
21557.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
一些些的經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
21557.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
21559.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
各館所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
21559.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].end |
21561.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
住村的計畫的部分因為各館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
21561.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
21563.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
他們對於住村的性質 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
21563.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
21565.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
以及辦理目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
21565.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
21567.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
有的都不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
21567.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
21569.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
所以他們所提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
21569.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
21571.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
資源有的會是生活費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
21571.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
21573.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
有的會是創作材料費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
21573.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
21575.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
會有一點點不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
21575.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
21577.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
為了維護藝術家的權益我們也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].start |
21577.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].end |
21579.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].text |
要求各館都要以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].start |
21579.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].end |
21581.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].text |
國家級的定位來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].start |
21581.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].end |
21583.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].text |
住村計畫所辦的宗旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].start |
21583.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].end |
21585.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].text |
跟他們的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].start |
21585.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].end |
21587.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].text |
除了希望他們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].start |
21587.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].end |
21589.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].text |
定期檢視住村的這個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].start |
21589.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].end |
21591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].text |
之外有關甄選辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].start |
21591.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].end |
21593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].text |
相關的配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].start |
21593.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].end |
21595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].text |
也都希望他們能夠滾動式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].start |
21595.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].end |
21597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].text |
調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].start |
21597.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].end |
21599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].text |
希望可以符合藝術家實際需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].start |
21599.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].end |
21601.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].text |
跟回應外界的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].start |
21601.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].end |
21603.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].text |
謝謝委員的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].start |
21606.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].end |
21608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].text |
有關於第53案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].start |
21608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].end |
21610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].text |
兒童博物館的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].start |
21610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].end |
21612.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].text |
我先報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].start |
21612.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].end |
21614.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].text |
簡單回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].start |
21614.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].end |
21616.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].text |
有關於那個典藏的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].start |
21616.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].end |
21618.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].text |
我們是一個以非物件導向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].start |
21618.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].end |
21620.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].text |
一個博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].start |
21620.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].end |
21622.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].text |
所以我們是規劃以教育取向的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].start |
21622.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].end |
21624.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].text |
收藏所以未來我們會持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].start |
21624.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].end |
21626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].text |
配合我們的展示的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].start |
21626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].end |
21628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].text |
會開始做我們的收藏 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].start |
21628.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].end |
21630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].text |
的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].start |
21630.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].end |
21632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].text |
那有關教育活動的部分我們未來會持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].start |
21632.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].end |
21634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].text |
按照跟著我們的定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].start |
21634.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].end |
21636.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].text |
去做社會溝通跟觀眾理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].start |
21636.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].end |
21638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].text |
跟使用者需求的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].start |
21638.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].end |
21640.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].text |
最後在專業人員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].start |
21640.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].end |
21642.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].text |
我們目前已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].start |
21642.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].end |
21644.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].text |
確實已經有跟各大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].start |
21644.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].end |
21646.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].text |
的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].start |
21646.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].end |
21648.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].text |
教育機構例如像 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].start |
21648.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].end |
21650.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].text |
清大的教育教育學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].start |
21650.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].end |
21652.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].text |
來做相關的合作的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].start |
21652.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].end |
21654.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].text |
未來也就是在兒童發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].start |
21654.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].end |
21656.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].text |
的部分他會給我們很有力的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].start |
21656.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].end |
21658.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].text |
所以謝謝委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].start |
21658.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].end |
21660.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].text |
督促我們會持續的努力謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].start |
21665.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].end |
21667.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].text |
好我們現在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].start |
21668.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].end |
21670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].text |
我41案是改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].start |
21670.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].end |
21672.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].text |
那請委員提案要凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].start |
21672.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].end |
21674.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].text |
多少還是要三列多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].start |
21676.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].end |
21678.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].text |
不好意思我稍微加快一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].start |
21678.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].end |
21680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].text |
請大家就直接說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].start |
21680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].end |
21682.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].text |
那我的四個案我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].start |
21683.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].end |
21685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].text |
你們還是要補一些書面資料給我好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].start |
21685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].end |
21687.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].text |
因為剛剛的回答實在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].start |
21687.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].end |
21689.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].text |
太簡略了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].start |
21689.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].end |
21691.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].text |
我的四個案改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].start |
21692.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].end |
21694.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].text |
我的案子呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].start |
21694.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].end |
21696.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].text |
我希望你們我剛剛講的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].start |
21696.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].end |
21698.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].text |
你們相關的這個兒童設施設置情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].start |
21698.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].end |
21700.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].text |
以及你們未來規劃設置的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].start |
21700.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].end |
21702.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].text |
要一份給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].start |
21702.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].end |
21704.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].text |
資料給我那我這份也可以改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].start |
21706.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].end |
21708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].text |
好其他還沒改組決議的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].start |
21708.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].end |
21710.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].text |
有一見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].start |
21711.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].end |
21713.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].text |
沒有意見要提案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].start |
21718.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].end |
21720.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].text |
沒關係啊你們提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].start |
21720.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].end |
21722.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].start |
21735.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].end |
21737.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].text |
改組決議41 42 45 46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].start |
21738.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].end |
21740.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].text |
48 49 44 44 51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].start |
21742.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].end |
21744.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].text |
我43 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].start |
21744.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].end |
21746.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].text |
改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].start |
21746.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].end |
21748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].text |
出以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].start |
21748.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].end |
21750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].text |
43跟50我是凍結20萬跟凍結10萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].start |
21750.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].end |
21752.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].text |
那我也改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].start |
21754.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].end |
21756.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].text |
43 50 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].start |
21756.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].end |
21758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].text |
改組決議好其他預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].start |
21758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].end |
21760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].text |
接著處理第四幕文化創意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].start |
21760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].end |
21762.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].text |
產業發展業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].start |
21762.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].end |
21764.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].text |
提案號第54到89案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].start |
21764.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].end |
21766.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].start |
21766.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].end |
21768.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].text |
你們要換位置我們休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].start |
21768.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].end |
21770.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].text |
好不好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].start |
21773.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].end |
21775.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].start |
21780.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].end |
21782.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].start |
21787.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].end |
21789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].start |
21789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].end |
21791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].text |
第二是化庫會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].start |
21791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].end |
21793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].text |
我們都把自己公司都弄小 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].start |
21793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].end |
21795.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].text |
公司嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].start |
21795.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].end |
21797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].text |
不知道啊就要鬧了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].start |
21797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].end |
21799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].text |
因為我怕他們是不是要刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].start |
21799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].end |
21801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].text |
因為裴雲裴雲呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].start |
21801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].end |
21803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].text |
沒有他說公司那個啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].start |
21803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].end |
21805.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].text |
我在猜他們誰是誰要刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].start |
21805.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].end |
21807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].text |
他們是小公司那些都要刪 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].start |
21807.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].end |
21809.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].start |
21809.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].end |
21811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].text |
公司的那個是哪一個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].start |
21811.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].end |
21813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].start |
21813.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].end |
21815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].text |
121 121 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].start |
21815.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].end |
21817.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].text |
121是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].start |
21818.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].end |
21820.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].text |
121 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].start |
21820.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].end |
21822.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].text |
就換位啊不然怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].start |
21823.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].end |
21825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].text |
就開幹啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].start |
21825.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].end |
21827.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].text |
不然就又來開幹 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].start |
21827.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].end |
21829.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].text |
就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].start |
21829.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].end |
21831.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].text |
那我們下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].start |
21831.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].end |
21833.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].text |
讓柏仁自己撤 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].start |
21833.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].end |
21835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].text |
我們下一個都過於我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].start |
21835.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].end |
21837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].start |
21837.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].end |
21839.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].text |
121啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].start |
21839.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].end |
21841.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].start |
21841.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].end |
21843.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].start |
21843.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].end |
21845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].start |
21845.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].end |
21847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].text |
對啊剪裂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].start |
21847.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].end |
21849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].text |
剪五千 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].start |
21849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].end |
21851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].text |
凍結30% |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].start |
21851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].end |
21853.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].text |
凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].start |
21853.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].end |
21855.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].text |
我們30% |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].start |
21855.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].end |
21857.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].text |
36億耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].start |
21857.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].end |
21859.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].text |
6億耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].start |
21859.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].end |
21861.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].text |
公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].start |
21861.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].end |
21863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].text |
我看一下你21億 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].start |
21863.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].end |
21865.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].text |
你就凍結了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].start |
21867.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].end |
21869.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].text |
6億耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].start |
21906.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].end |
21908.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].text |
公司的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].start |
21908.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].end |
21910.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].text |
我跟部長溝通一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].start |
21911.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].end |
21913.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].start |
21914.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].end |
21916.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].text |
他們要三分之一耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].start |
21916.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].end |
21918.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].text |
30% |
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21918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].end |
21920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].start |
21920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].end |
21922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].start |
21922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].end |
21924.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].start |
21924.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].end |
21926.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].start |
21926.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].end |
21928.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].start |
21928.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].end |
21930.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].start |
21930.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].end |
21932.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].start |
21932.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].end |
21934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].start |
21934.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].end |
21936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].start |
21936.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].end |
21938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].start |
21938.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].end |
21940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].start |
21940.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].end |
21942.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].start |
21942.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].end |
21944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].start |
21944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].end |
21946.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].start |
21919.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].end |
21921.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].start |
21921.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].end |
21923.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].start |
21923.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].end |
21925.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].start |
21925.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].end |
21927.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].start |
21927.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].end |
21929.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].start |
21929.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].end |
21931.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].start |
21931.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].end |
21933.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].start |
21933.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].end |
21935.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].start |
21935.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].end |
21937.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].start |
21937.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].end |
21939.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].start |
21939.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].end |
21941.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].start |
21941.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].end |
21943.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].start |
21943.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].end |
21945.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].start |
21945.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].end |
21947.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].text |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].start |
21926.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].end |
21928.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].start |
21949.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].end |
21951.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].start |
21955.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].end |
21957.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].start |
21970.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].end |
21972.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].start |
21973.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].end |
21975.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].text |
他講的公司就凍1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].start |
21977.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].end |
21979.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].text |
我們台灣公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].start |
21979.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].end |
21981.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].text |
公司1、4、1、2、1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].start |
21981.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].end |
21983.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].text |
他就凍1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].start |
21983.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].end |
21985.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].text |
他會含凍5.8% |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].start |
21985.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].end |
21987.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].text |
但我們就只有5% |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].start |
21988.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].end |
21990.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].text |
我們去打打就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].start |
21992.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].end |
21994.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].text |
他應該都還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].start |
21993.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].end |
21995.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].text |
你自己再小心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].start |
21995.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].end |
21997.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].text |
你自己再等 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].start |
21997.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].end |
21999.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].text |
我知道二輪就不想吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].start |
21999.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].end |
22001.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].text |
因為二輪有其他位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].start |
22001.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].end |
22003.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].start |
22006.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].end |
22008.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].text |
他們是在二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].start |
22008.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].end |
22010.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].text |
要先這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].start |
22010.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].end |
22012.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].text |
不要這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].start |
22012.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].end |
22014.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].text |
不要吃雞 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].start |
22014.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].end |
22016.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].text |
不要吃雞他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].start |
22017.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].end |
22019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].text |
你看看我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].start |
22019.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].end |
22021.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].text |
怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].start |
22021.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].end |
22023.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].start |
22033.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].end |
22035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].text |
我這月我們要想一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].start |
22035.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].end |
22037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].text |
我這月會不會有好影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].start |
22037.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].end |
22039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].text |
8、1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].start |
22039.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].end |
22041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].text |
你是堅持多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].start |
22041.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].end |
22043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].text |
他的比例太高 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].start |
22043.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].end |
22045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].text |
20%跟1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].start |
22045.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].end |
22047.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].text |
我這月不用動了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].start |
22052.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].end |
22054.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].start |
22055.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].end |
22057.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].text |
你們要一分一分的去打架 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].start |
22246.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].end |
22248.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].start |
22267.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].end |
22269.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].text |
請放下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].start |
22270.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].end |
22272.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].text |
請羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].start |
22277.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].end |
22279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].text |
我的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].start |
22279.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].end |
22281.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].text |
68案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].start |
22281.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].end |
22283.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].text |
我先陳明我的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].start |
22283.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].end |
22285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].text |
我的立場很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].start |
22285.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].end |
22287.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].text |
預算跟補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].start |
22287.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].end |
22289.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].text |
都是有排擠性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].start |
22289.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].end |
22291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].text |
即便說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].start |
22291.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].end |
22293.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].text |
透過國發院的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].start |
22293.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].end |
22295.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].text |
也是有排擠性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].start |
22295.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].end |
22297.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].text |
國發基金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].start |
22297.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].end |
22299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].text |
投資也有排擠性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].start |
22301.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].end |
22303.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].text |
一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].start |
22303.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].end |
22305.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].start |
22304.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].end |
22306.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].text |
文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].start |
22307.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].end |
22309.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].text |
九把刀的電影功夫 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].start |
22309.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].end |
22311.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].text |
投資的補助為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].start |
22312.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].end |
22314.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].text |
這部電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].start |
22314.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].end |
22316.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].text |
同時獲得文化部114年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].start |
22316.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].end |
22318.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].text |
第二梯次國產電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].start |
22318.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].end |
22320.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].text |
國內行銷補助300萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].start |
22320.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].end |
22322.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].text |
113年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].start |
22322.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].end |
22324.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].text |
第一梯次國產電影長片 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].start |
22324.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].end |
22326.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].text |
輔導金3500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].start |
22326.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].end |
22330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].text |
113年度補助入圍入選 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].start |
22330.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].end |
22332.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].text |
獲國內外重要影展獎項電影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].start |
22332.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].end |
22334.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].text |
以及下一部電影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].start |
22334.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].end |
22336.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].text |
補助金1500萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].start |
22336.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].end |
22338.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].text |
再加上文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].start |
22338.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].end |
22340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].text |
是由文策院執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].start |
22340.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].end |
22344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].text |
國發基金加強投資文化創意產業實施方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].start |
22344.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].end |
22346.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].text |
1億零70萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].start |
22347.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].end |
22349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].text |
光公開諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].start |
22349.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].end |
22351.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].text |
這部電影政府就給了超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].start |
22351.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].end |
22353.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].text |
1.5億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].start |
22354.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].end |
22356.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].text |
當然喔 |
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國發會的報告裡 |
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專門投資電影的文創專業 |
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他說這個投資 |
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其實最高拿到的 |
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就是1.5億元 |
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第二高的投資大概4000多萬 |
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也就是說連第一的一半都不到 |
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但是 |
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我們先不講說今天 |
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剛剛前面講的 |
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這件事情因為我直接說 |
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有些電影或是 |
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藝文團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].start |
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到今天 |
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文化部補助10萬20萬 |
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100萬都不容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].start |
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你光光針對這部電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].start |
22390.12 |
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政府就丟了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].start |
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1億5千萬 |
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我覺得這是直接 |
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瓜分也去 |
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今天等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7124].text |
剝奪了其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].start |
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更需要甚至更有潛力 |
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也更可能創造優良的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].start |
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影視作品的團體 |
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他得到政府補助的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].start |
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所以 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7130].text |
關鍵在於說這樣的一個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].start |
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你其實妨礙的是 |
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其他我們更熬熬待補 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].start |
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更需要幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7134].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7134].text |
甚至更有潛力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7135].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7135].text |
影視文化團體 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7136].text |
所以這件事情我覺得必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7137].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7137].text |
嚴肅處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7138].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7138].text |
我們再回到今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7139].end |
22432.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].text |
功夫的這部電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7140].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7140].text |
票房是4693萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7141].end |
22436.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].text |
根據文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7142].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7142].text |
上次質詢的回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].start |
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大概可以取回投資1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7144].text |
我不知道大家請說明1000萬拿到了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7145].text |
告訴我一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7146].text |
因為後面還被追蹤到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].start |
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可是根據國發會在113年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7148].text |
記報 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7149].text |
投資了10收資本2.65億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7150].text |
投資1億070萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7151].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7151].text |
換算出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7152].text |
出資比例38% |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7153].end |
22460.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].text |
補助金加上就高達 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7154].end |
22462.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].text |
58% |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7155].end |
22464.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].text |
等於國家出錢幫他拍電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7156].text |
那拍出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7157].end |
22468.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].text |
的電影慘虧也無需他承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7158].end |
22470.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].text |
跟我們投資深化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].start |
22470.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].end |
22472.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].text |
影視產業的內涵跟競爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7160].end |
22474.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].text |
我坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7161].end |
22476.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].text |
是不符合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7162].end |
22478.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].text |
那也對於補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7163].end |
22480.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].text |
不過新瑞導演的政策目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].start |
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22482.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].text |
也是背道而馳 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7165].end |
22484.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].text |
所以再加上國發會在文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].start |
22484.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].end |
22486.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].text |
要求下已經不接入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7167].end |
22488.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].text |
投資電影的相關資本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7168].end |
22490.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].text |
跟收益等資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7169].end |
22492.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].text |
我覺得你也背離了所謂的透明化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7170].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7170].text |
的這件事情 |
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22496.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].text |
因此在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7172].end |
22498.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].text |
文策院執行國發 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7173].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[7173].text |
基金文化投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7174].end |
22502.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].text |
有幾個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7175].end |
22504.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].text |
巨額預算沒有效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[7176].end |
22506.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].text |
同樣的人反覆拿補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].start |
22506.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].end |
22508.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].text |
投資欠把關這樣的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].start |
22508.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].end |
22510.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].text |
今天我覺得文化部必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].start |
22510.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].end |
22512.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].text |
要深刻的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].start |
22512.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].end |
22514.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].text |
跟深刻的反省 |
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22516.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].text |
因此在這邊我 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7182].text |
提案就是凍結 |
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20% |
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| transcript.whisperx[7184].text |
但是剛剛跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].start |
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22524.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].text |
部長有溝通過 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7186].end |
22526.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].text |
待會想聽一下部長怎麼回答這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].start |
22526.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].end |
22528.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].text |
我們再來看怎麼處理這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].start |
22528.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].end |
22530.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].start |
22529.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].end |
22531.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].text |
好,那這個待會我也要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].start |
22531.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].end |
22533.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].text |
這一案,那我們先繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].start |
22533.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].end |
22535.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].text |
依序往下,我是藥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].start |
22537.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].end |
22539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].text |
好,謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].start |
22539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].end |
22541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].text |
這一科目我們在審議的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].start |
22541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].end |
22543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].text |
文化創意產業發展業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].start |
22543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].end |
22545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].text |
那我有五個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].start |
22545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].end |
22547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].text |
但我都會聚焦在同樣的一個思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].start |
22547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].end |
22549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].text |
下,就是如何有效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].start |
22549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].end |
22551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].text |
透過政策的導入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].start |
22551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].end |
22553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].text |
讓所有的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].start |
22553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].end |
22555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].text |
人人都是文化消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].start |
22555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].end |
22557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].text |
我們都能夠讓文化生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].start |
22557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].end |
22559.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].text |
成為台灣人民的日常 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].start |
22559.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].end |
22561.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].text |
我這五個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].start |
22561.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].end |
22563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].text |
都是扣合著這樣子的一個思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].start |
22563.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].end |
22565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].text |
我第一案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].start |
22565.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].end |
22567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].text |
文化理金 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].start |
22567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].end |
22569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].text |
我們當時投入催生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].start |
22569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].end |
22571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].text |
在疫情期間上路了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].start |
22571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].end |
22573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].text |
18歲,每人一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].start |
22573.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].end |
22575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].text |
1200點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].start |
22575.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].end |
22577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].text |
到後來又不斷地擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].start |
22577.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].end |
22579.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].text |
13到15歲600元 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].start |
22579.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].end |
22581.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].text |
現在全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].start |
22581.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].end |
22583.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].text |
從2015年要到13到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].start |
22583.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].end |
22585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].text |
22歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].start |
22585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].end |
22587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].text |
所以說這是一個政府的得證 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].start |
22587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].end |
22589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].text |
總收益的人數可以到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].start |
22589.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].end |
22591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].text |
204萬的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].start |
22591.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].end |
22593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].text |
這就是讓我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].start |
22593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].end |
22595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].text |
國家來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].start |
22595.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].end |
22597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].text |
人人有文化理金、文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].start |
22597.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].end |
22599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].text |
人人都是文化消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].start |
22599.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].end |
22601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].text |
但是好的政策在執行上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].start |
22601.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].end |
22603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].text |
我依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].start |
22603.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].end |
22605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].text |
立法院預算中心的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].start |
22605.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].end |
22607.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].text |
我不曉得文化部有沒有自己的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].start |
22607.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].end |
22609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].text |
我認為我們文化幣的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].start |
22609.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].end |
22611.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].text |
我們要有自己的專業的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].start |
22611.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].end |
22613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].text |
好,這我是要求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].start |
22613.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].end |
22615.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].text |
但我目前沒有看到中華 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].start |
22615.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].end |
22617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].text |
我只能夠採用立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].start |
22617.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].end |
22619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].text |
這個預算中心,所統計的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].start |
22619.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].end |
22621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].text |
大概這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].start |
22621.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].end |
22623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].text |
執行的經驗會有大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].start |
22623.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].end |
22625.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].text |
51萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].start |
22625.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].end |
22627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].text |
將近24.79% |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].start |
22627.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].end |
22629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].text |
也就是1%的國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].start |
22629.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].end |
22631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].text |
他並沒有去領取文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].start |
22631.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].end |
22633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].text |
非常的可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].start |
22633.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].end |
22635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].text |
所以說到底是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].start |
22635.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].end |
22637.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].text |
有什麼樣的原因,他是因為城鄉落差嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].start |
22637.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].end |
22639.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].text |
推導,推廣不足嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].start |
22639.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].end |
22641.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].text |
或是我進一步去釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].start |
22641.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].end |
22643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].text |
目前的文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].start |
22643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].end |
22645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].text |
比較著重是實體消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].start |
22645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].end |
22647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].text |
那有一些確實比較偏鄉的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].start |
22647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].end |
22649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].text |
它變成有幣無電 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].start |
22649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].end |
22651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].text |
你有這個文化幣,它沒有電可以消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].start |
22651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].end |
22653.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].text |
如果你是在實體消費的面向上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].start |
22653.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].end |
22655.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].text |
所以對文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].start |
22655.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].end |
22657.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].text |
如何把這個得證 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].start |
22657.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].end |
22659.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].text |
能夠擴大更多的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].start |
22659.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].end |
22661.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].text |
它可以更便利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].start |
22661.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].end |
22663.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].text |
它可以更便利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].start |
22663.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].end |
22665.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].text |
它可以更便利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].start |
22666.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].end |
22668.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].text |
它可以更方便的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].start |
22668.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].end |
22670.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].text |
在它的生活的領域都能夠來支用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].start |
22670.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].end |
22672.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].text |
我覺得這個需要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].start |
22672.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].end |
22674.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].text |
或者是評估文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].start |
22674.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].end |
22676.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].text |
可以有特定的線上消費的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].start |
22676.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].end |
22678.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].text |
可不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].start |
22678.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].end |
22680.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].text |
這個請你們提出你們的檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].start |
22680.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].end |
22682.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].text |
這是第一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].start |
22682.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].end |
22684.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].text |
接下來第85案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].start |
22684.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].end |
22686.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].text |
對不起,我翻一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].start |
22685.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].end |
22687.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].text |
第85案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].start |
22687.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].end |
22689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].text |
那這85跟86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].start |
22689.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].end |
22691.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].text |
其實都是我在司法法治委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].start |
22691.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].end |
22693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].text |
跨部會所觀察到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].start |
22693.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].end |
22695.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].text |
要給文化部提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].start |
22695.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].end |
22697.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].text |
人人都是文化消費者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].start |
22697.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].end |
22699.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].text |
我們從公部門先行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].start |
22699.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].end |
22701.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].text |
公部門有哪些方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].start |
22701.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].end |
22703.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].text |
幫助大家有文化生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].start |
22703.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].end |
22705.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].text |
其實中央各機關員工文康活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].start |
22705.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].end |
22707.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].text |
就是一個方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].start |
22707.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].end |
22709.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].text |
但當我在監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].start |
22709.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].end |
22711.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].text |
人事總處的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].start |
22711.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].end |
22713.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].text |
我發現我們的文康活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].start |
22713.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].end |
22715.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].text |
都是重康樂輕文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].start |
22719.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].end |
22721.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].text |
所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].start |
22721.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].end |
22723.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].text |
我想這就是一個好的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].start |
22723.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].end |
22725.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].text |
不要讓我們的公務體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].start |
22725.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].end |
22727.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].text |
在文化政策中是外國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].start |
22727.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].end |
22729.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].text |
既然大家都去康樂了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].start |
22729.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].end |
22731.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].text |
大家都很善用文康活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].start |
22731.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].end |
22733.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].text |
那可不可以多一點文化的選擇呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].start |
22733.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].end |
22735.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].text |
所以說文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].start |
22735.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].end |
22737.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].text |
應當也擴大跟人事總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].start |
22737.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].end |
22739.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].text |
在藝文欣賞文化體驗活動裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].start |
22739.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].end |
22741.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].text |
能夠納入大家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].start |
22741.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].end |
22743.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].text |
文康活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].start |
22743.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].end |
22745.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].text |
就我跟人事總處質詢過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].start |
22745.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].end |
22747.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].text |
他們都覺得很好很好很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].start |
22747.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].end |
22749.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].text |
那些選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].start |
22749.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].end |
22751.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].text |
拜託文化部可以跨部會來溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].start |
22751.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].end |
22753.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].text |
這是85案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].start |
22753.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].end |
22755.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].text |
第86案一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].start |
22755.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].end |
22757.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].text |
同樣的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].start |
22757.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].end |
22759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].text |
擴大在國民旅遊卡裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].start |
22759.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].end |
22761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].text |
讓國民旅遊不會只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].start |
22761.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].end |
22763.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].text |
眾觀光輕文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].start |
22763.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].end |
22765.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].text |
輕藝文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].start |
22765.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].end |
22767.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].text |
一樣的邏輯可以操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].start |
22767.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].end |
22769.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].text |
我們對國民旅遊卡裡面合作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].start |
22769.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].end |
22771.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].text |
店家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].start |
22771.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].end |
22773.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].text |
增設藝文展演圖書出版 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].start |
22773.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].end |
22775.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].text |
或文化產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].start |
22775.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].end |
22777.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].text |
這是可行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].start |
22778.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].end |
22780.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].text |
所以這是我的第86案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].start |
22780.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].end |
22782.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].text |
再來第87案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].start |
22782.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].end |
22784.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].text |
我剛剛講過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].start |
22784.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].end |
22786.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].text |
我們公務部門的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].start |
22786.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].end |
22788.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].text |
員工這個叫做康樂活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].start |
22788.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].end |
22790.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].text |
再到我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].start |
22790.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].end |
22792.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].text |
呃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].start |
22793.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].end |
22795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].text |
再到這個國民旅遊卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].start |
22795.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].end |
22797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].text |
我的87案在順著 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].start |
22797.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].end |
22799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].text |
我們講到是企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].start |
22799.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].end |
22801.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].text |
企業都有職工福利金 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].start |
22804.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].end |
22806.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].text |
對不起這個是企業嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].start |
22806.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].end |
22808.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].text |
我看一下對不起這還是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].start |
22808.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].end |
22810.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].text |
我們的那個公務部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].start |
22810.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].end |
22812.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].text |
勞動界勞動界對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].start |
22812.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].end |
22814.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].text |
我們的企業沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].start |
22814.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].end |
22816.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].text |
我們的企業都有職工福利金 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].start |
22816.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].end |
22818.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].text |
依據職工福利金條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].start |
22818.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].end |
22820.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].text |
裡頭可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].start |
22820.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].end |
22822.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].text |
去鼓勵公司行號 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].start |
22822.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].end |
22824.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].text |
各個企業組織設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].start |
22824.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].end |
22826.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].text |
職工福利委員會來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].start |
22826.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].end |
22828.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].text |
職工福利的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].start |
22828.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].end |
22830.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].text |
事項那同樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].start |
22830.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].end |
22832.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].text |
邏輯在文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7335].start |
22832.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7335].end |
22834.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7335].text |
是不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].start |
22834.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].end |
22836.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].text |
所以這是在企業端 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].start |
22836.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].end |
22838.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].text |
如何讓職工福利委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].start |
22838.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].end |
22840.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].text |
也有文化的思維 |
| transcript.whisperx[7339].start |
22840.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7339].end |
22842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7339].text |
好再來88案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].start |
22842.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].end |
22844.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].text |
又更擴大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].start |
22844.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].end |
22846.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].text |
這是企業的ESG |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].start |
22846.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].end |
22848.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].text |
如何讓更大規模的上市上櫃 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].start |
22848.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].end |
22850.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].text |
公司的永續發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].start |
22850.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].end |
22852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].text |
現在確實依據UNESCO |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].start |
22852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].end |
22854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].text |
文化已經是ESG的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7346].start |
22854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7346].end |
22856.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7346].text |
另外第四支啊很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].start |
22856.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].end |
22858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].text |
一支 |
| transcript.whisperx[7348].start |
22858.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7348].end |
22860.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7348].text |
所以說依這個之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].start |
22860.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].end |
22862.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].text |
一直在提倡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7350].start |
22862.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7350].end |
22864.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7350].text |
員工福利藝文禮券 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].start |
22864.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].end |
22866.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].text |
補助辦法我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].start |
22866.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].end |
22868.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].text |
能夠文化部來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].start |
22868.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].end |
22870.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].text |
鼓勵企業的福委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].start |
22870.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].end |
22872.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].text |
他們的福利委員會投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].start |
22872.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].end |
22874.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].text |
藝文消費你鼓勵他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].start |
22874.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].end |
22876.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].text |
給予一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].start |
22876.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].end |
22878.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].text |
稅務優惠的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].start |
22878.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].end |
22880.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].text |
我認為這也是可行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].start |
22880.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].end |
22882.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].text |
所以我這幾個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].start |
22882.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].end |
22884.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].text |
從公部門的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].start |
22885 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].end |
22887 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].text |
康樂活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].start |
22886.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].end |
22888.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].text |
從私部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].start |
22888.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].end |
22890.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].text |
的員工福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].start |
22891.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].end |
22893.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].text |
國民旅遊卡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].start |
22893 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].end |
22895 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].text |
都是過當的偏重在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].start |
22895 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].end |
22897 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].text |
不能講過當 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].start |
22897 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].end |
22899 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].text |
比較偏重在觀光 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].start |
22899 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].end |
22901 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].text |
而親義文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].start |
22901 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].end |
22903 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].text |
所以五個項目我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].start |
22903 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].end |
22905 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].text |
只要部長Say Yes |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].start |
22905 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].end |
22907 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].text |
大家有一個整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].start |
22907 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].end |
22909 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].text |
跟公部門的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].start |
22909 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].end |
22911 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].text |
跟私部門的協作我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].start |
22911 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].end |
22913 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].text |
一定做得到這是所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].start |
22913 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].end |
22915 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].text |
文化產業都非常期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].start |
22915 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].end |
22917 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].text |
的事情所以做出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].start |
22917 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].end |
22919 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].text |
這個選項這個option我們提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].start |
22919 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].end |
22921 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].text |
了我相信就可以提振 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].start |
22921 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].end |
22923 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].text |
我們的文化消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].start |
22926.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].end |
22928.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].text |
好 國務卿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].start |
22927.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].end |
22929.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].text |
這個部分我有四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].start |
22929.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].end |
22931.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].text |
就是67 82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].start |
22931.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].end |
22933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].text |
還有83 84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].start |
22933.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].end |
22935.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].text |
那針對這個67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].start |
22935.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].end |
22937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].text |
案是這個空總 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].start |
22937.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].end |
22939.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].text |
他們當代文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].start |
22939.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].end |
22941.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].text |
實驗場域的第二期發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].start |
22941.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].end |
22943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].text |
的一個計畫那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].start |
22943.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].end |
22945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].text |
文化部這邊也有來跟我做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].start |
22945.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].end |
22947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].text |
一些說明那 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].start |
22947.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].end |
22949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].text |
目前所活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].start |
22949.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].end |
22951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].text |
應用的這個比例上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].start |
22951.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].end |
22953.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].text |
其實也有特別的更新 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].start |
22953.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].end |
22955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].text |
那唯有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].start |
22955.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].end |
22957.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].text |
部分是還在股基 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].start |
22957.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].end |
22959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].text |
修復的一些前置的作業可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].start |
22959.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].end |
22961.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].text |
還要再評估還要再進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].start |
22961.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].end |
22963.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].text |
所以這個部分我們有特別的堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].start |
22963.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].end |
22965.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].start |
22965.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].end |
22967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].text |
可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].start |
22967.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].end |
22969.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].text |
好那第82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].start |
22969.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].end |
22971.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].text |
案的部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].start |
22971.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].end |
22973.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].text |
義文消費促進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].start |
22973.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].end |
22975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].text |
振興的這樣子的一個推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].start |
22975.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].end |
22977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].text |
那我想也是跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].start |
22977.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].end |
22979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].text |
剛剛司法委員有特別提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].start |
22979.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].end |
22981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].text |
這個文化幣的部分那我想文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].start |
22981.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].end |
22983.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].text |
已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].start |
22983.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].end |
22985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].text |
成為我們要這個鼓勵青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].start |
22985.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].end |
22987.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].text |
他們來參與這個義文非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].start |
22987.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].end |
22989.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].text |
的一個政策的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].start |
22989.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].end |
22991.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].text |
那也請文化部這邊也說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].start |
22991.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].end |
22993.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].text |
一下目前這個文化幣的領取 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].start |
22993.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].end |
22995.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].text |
率跟他們使用的一個成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].start |
22995.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].end |
22997.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].text |
有沒有改善的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].start |
22997.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].end |
22999.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].text |
那要如何的來持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].start |
22999.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].end |
23001.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].text |
強化跟店家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].start |
23001.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].end |
23003.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].text |
店家的一個管理那防 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].start |
23003.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].end |
23005.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].text |
幣的一個機制還有宣傳的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].start |
23005.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].end |
23007.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].text |
推廣那讓青年能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].start |
23007.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].end |
23009.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].text |
願意使用那讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].start |
23009.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].end |
23011.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].text |
這個文化幣能夠發揮最大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].start |
23011.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].end |
23013.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].text |
一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].start |
23013.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].end |
23015.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].text |
那我想這就是大家比較關切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].start |
23015.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].end |
23017.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].text |
好那83跟84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].start |
23017.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].end |
23019.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].text |
那83的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].start |
23020.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].end |
23022.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].text |
一樣也是文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].start |
23022.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].end |
23024.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].text |
那我想還有很多的這個應用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].start |
23024.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].end |
23026.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].text |
還有政策的效益上其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].start |
23026.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].end |
23028.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].text |
還有很多精進的一些空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].start |
23028.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].end |
23030.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].text |
那文化部這邊也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].start |
23030.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].end |
23032.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].text |
特別來做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].start |
23032.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].end |
23034.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].text |
那我想可能還要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].start |
23034.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].end |
23036.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].text |
多納入更多元的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].start |
23036.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].end |
23038.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].text |
文化幣可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].start |
23038.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].end |
23040.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].text |
做使用的一些數位的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].start |
23040.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].end |
23042.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].text |
還有文化上的一個體驗 |
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那這個部分我們有特別堅持 |
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也可以改組決議 |
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那84案的一個部分 |
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就是關於青年席位的 |
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優惠的一個方案 |
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那我想這個青年席位的政策 |
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其實也有助於 |
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我們的青年在藝文活動參與的 |
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一個習慣 |
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那我想這個習慣的一個培養其實可能 |
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還是要長期而且是要有 |
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計畫性的那怎麼樣能夠 |
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讓 |
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目前大家在青年席位的 |
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一些成效跟這個 |
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售票的轉換的 |
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一個情形能夠 |
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有一個比較 |
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長期的一個效應這也是 |
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我比較關心的部分那等一下 |
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也可以請文化部這邊 |
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來做一下說明那這個部分 |
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我沒有特別的堅持好以上 |
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陳秀芭委員 |
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謝謝主席在這邊我的案子是 |
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第64案 |
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64案是關於文化創意產業 |
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推動與輔導的業務 |
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根據2024台灣文化 |
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創意產業發展年報 |
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的資料顯示 |
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在創意生活產業廣播 |
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電視產業產品設計 |
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23110.6 |
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23112.6 |
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產業以及電影產業 |
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這些公司相關的 |
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這個營業額下滑的公司數 |
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都超過了50% |
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那這些 |
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產業呢文化部不知道有沒有特別去 |
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留意並特別去了解說 |
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他們這是 |
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營業額下滑的原因 |
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其中廣播電視 |
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23130.6 |
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23132.6 |
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產業及電影產業文化部 |
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都有投入很多的資源在輔導 |
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以及在協助 |
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那有這樣的情況發生 |
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我是不是應該去 |
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23142.6 |
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了解說營業額下滑主要的原因在 |
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哪裡還有我們也應該要持續 |
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23146.6 |
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的拓展國際市場來增加 |
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23146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].end |
23148.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].text |
我國廣電及電影產業的銷售 |
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23148.6 |
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23150.6 |
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管道那我提這個案子主要是 |
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23152.6 |
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要提醒文化部就是說 |
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我們雖然有資源在投入 |
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在輔導但是相對的 |
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23158.6 |
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這些產業面臨到的問題 |
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23158.6 |
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23160.6 |
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我們是不是有跟這些產業有保持 |
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23162.6 |
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密切的交流我們只是有 |
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23164.6 |
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資源去輔導他但是他們面對到 |
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23166.6 |
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什麼有什麼困境是 |
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23168.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].text |
我們沒有理解到或是沒有 |
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注意到的這個部分還是要 |
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23172.6 |
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跟相關的產業 |
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23174.6 |
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透過比較 |
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23176.61 |
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一些密切的 |
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23178.61 |
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交流了解過後 |
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23178.61 |
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23180.61 |
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我們才能夠針對他們 |
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23180.61 |
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23182.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].text |
的需求來提供 |
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23182.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].end |
23184.61 |
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那這個我提供金額是300萬 |
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23184.61 |
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23186.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].text |
沒有堅持一定要動這個數 |
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23186.61 |
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23188.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].text |
那等一下請文化部這邊說明一下 |
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23195.22 |
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23197.22 |
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好謝謝主席我的案子是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7511].end |
23199.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].text |
第61案 |
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23201.22 |
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是針對 |
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23201.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].end |
23203.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].text |
文化創意產業 |
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23204.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].end |
23206.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].text |
產業發展業務裡面的 |
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23206.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].end |
23208.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].text |
業務費那我主要是針對 |
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23208.17 |
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23210.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].text |
在 |
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23210.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].end |
23212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].text |
今年的這個五月份的 |
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23212.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].end |
23214.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].text |
密室逃脫店的這個 |
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23214.17 |
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23216.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].text |
意外事件 |
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23218.17 |
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那最主要是涉及到沉浸式 |
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23218.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].end |
23220.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].text |
體驗產業 |
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23220.17 |
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23222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].text |
它是屬於 |
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23222.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].end |
23224.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].text |
我們的 |
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23224.17 |
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23226.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].text |
文化創意 |
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23227.54 |
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23229.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].text |
產業發展 |
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23229.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].end |
23231.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].text |
條例裡面的一個項目 |
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23233.54 |
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但是呢 |
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23235.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].text |
它有一個很大的問題是 |
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23235.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].end |
23237.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].text |
據到前年他們的一個 |
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23237.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].end |
23239.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].text |
調查產業的調查是說他們 |
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23239.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].end |
23241.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].text |
沒有專法的管理 |
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23241.54 |
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23243.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].text |
那這個跨域整合的縣市也都 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7533].end |
23245.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].text |
遇到了很大的困難 |
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23245.54 |
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23247.54 |
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發展好那最主要 |
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23249.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].text |
的是呢把他們認為 |
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23251.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].text |
說他們事實上是個娛樂 |
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23253.54 |
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娛樂業但是就 |
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23255.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].text |
我們對於 |
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23255.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].end |
23257.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].text |
沉浸式體驗產業來發展來看的話 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7540].end |
23259.54 |
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那它本身是具備有很多的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7541].end |
23261.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].text |
體才的這種在地化跟 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7542].end |
23263.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].text |
有些歷史事件 |
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23263.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].end |
23265.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].text |
還有在地的台會的這種影視 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7544].end |
23267.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].text |
的劇局 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7545].end |
23269.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].text |
還有包括的是 |
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23269.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].end |
23271.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].text |
這種影視 |
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23271.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].end |
23273.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].text |
音樂劇場的 |
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23273.54 |
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這樣的一個 |
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23277.54 |
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結合的整合性的一種輸出 |
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23279.54 |
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那它還具備了全球的 |
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23279.54 |
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競爭力但是就是因為 |
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目前 |
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我們跟文化部在詢問的 |
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結果他們 |
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的一個做法因為 |
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它涉及到的是在運用的部分 |
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23291.54 |
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23293.54 |
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它就有這個 |
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使用場地的部分 |
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23297.54 |
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它在屬於都市計畫 |
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23297.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].end |
23299.54 |
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都市計畫法的 |
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23299.54 |
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23301.54 |
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部分包括是處地的 |
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23301.54 |
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23303.54 |
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使用還在什麼D1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].start |
23303.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].end |
23305.54 |
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還有內那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].start |
23305.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].end |
23307.54 |
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消防跟艦管的部分 |
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23307.54 |
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23309.54 |
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都跟在 |
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23309.54 |
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23311.54 |
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現在的這種 |
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23311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].end |
23313.54 |
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KTV或者是電影院的場合 |
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23313.54 |
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23315.54 |
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是一樣的這個大規模 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].start |
23315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].end |
23317.54 |
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可是我們知道的這 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].start |
23317.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].end |
23319.54 |
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曾經是體驗產業它本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].start |
23319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].end |
23321.54 |
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是屬於一個預約制當中比較 |
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23321.54 |
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23323.54 |
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小型的人數可能是六到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].start |
23323.54 |
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23325.54 |
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十二人或是有時候會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].start |
23325.54 |
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23327.54 |
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多點但是都是實名制的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].start |
23327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].end |
23329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].text |
這樣的一個產業它 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].start |
23329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].end |
23331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].text |
變成說主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].start |
23331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].end |
23333.54 |
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是文化部但是卻缺 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].start |
23333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].end |
23335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].text |
缺乏了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].start |
23335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].end |
23337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].text |
詢問之後卻缺乏了對於說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].start |
23337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].end |
23339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].text |
它需要跟跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].start |
23339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].end |
23341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].text |
文化跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].start |
23341.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].end |
23343.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].text |
內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].start |
23343.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].end |
23345.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].text |
艦管的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].start |
23345.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].end |
23347.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].text |
消防的這一些部分甚至還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].start |
23347.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].end |
23349.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].text |
在發展上面有關經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].start |
23349.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].end |
23351.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].text |
的發展上面它都 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].start |
23351.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].end |
23353.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].text |
都並沒有一個整體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].start |
23353.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].end |
23355.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].text |
想要單體文化部作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].start |
23355.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].end |
23357.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].text |
主管機關的一個責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].start |
23357.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].end |
23359.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].text |
因為給我們寫的這樣建議是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].start |
23359.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].end |
23361.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].text |
建立產業自主管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].start |
23361.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].end |
23363.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].text |
做法然後強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].start |
23363.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].end |
23365.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].text |
業者風險控管及提升安全意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].start |
23365.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].end |
23367.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].text |
就是因為文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].start |
23367.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].end |
23369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].text |
它沒有準備要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].start |
23369.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].end |
23371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].text |
做好對要去承擔這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].start |
23371.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].end |
23373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].text |
跟跨部會協調的最主要責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].start |
23373.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].end |
23375.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].text |
那現在目前跟地方的聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].start |
23375.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].end |
23377.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].text |
上面是台北市可能有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].start |
23377.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].end |
23379.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].text |
但是在其他的二十一縣市上面它 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].start |
23379.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].end |
23381.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].text |
其實還差得很遠所以我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].start |
23381.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].end |
23383.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].text |
是說我會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].start |
23383.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].end |
23385.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].text |
目前我先等一下聽聽看文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].start |
23385.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].end |
23387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].text |
這邊的在第二次的一個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].start |
23387.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].end |
23389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].text |
回覆之後我們再看看是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].start |
23389.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].end |
23391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].text |
有一個更具體的要承擔一些這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].start |
23391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].end |
23393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].text |
一個主管機關尤其是對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].start |
23393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].end |
23395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].text |
產業它的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].start |
23395.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].end |
23397.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].text |
它還很具備了台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].start |
23397.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].end |
23399.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].text |
一個文化創意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].start |
23399.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].end |
23401.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].text |
讓台北的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].start |
23401.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].end |
23403.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].text |
產業呢它是不是也 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].start |
23403.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].end |
23405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].text |
能夠提供就是說作為主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].start |
23405.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].end |
23407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].text |
機關的一個承擔出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].start |
23407.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].end |
23409.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].start |
23411.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].end |
23413.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].text |
蔡正宗委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].start |
23413.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].end |
23415.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].text |
大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].start |
23415.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].end |
23417.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].text |
我有三個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].start |
23417.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].end |
23419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].text |
第一個案子是六十六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].start |
23419.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].end |
23421.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].text |
那個空總的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].start |
23421.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].end |
23423.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].text |
實驗場的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].start |
23423.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].end |
23425.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].text |
那空總既有文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].start |
23425.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].end |
23427.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].text |
實驗跨域創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].start |
23427.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].end |
23429.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].text |
跟藝術科技及 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].start |
23429.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].end |
23431.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].text |
公共運用的一個功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].start |
23431.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].end |
23433.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].text |
這不是不能支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].start |
23433.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].end |
23435.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].text |
但這個計畫呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].start |
23435.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].end |
23437.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].text |
還需要呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].start |
23437.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].end |
23439.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].text |
核定那空間的使用力呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].start |
23439.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].end |
23441.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].text |
也要有一致的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].start |
23441.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].end |
23443.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].text |
那文化部呢應該要提出計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].start |
23443.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].end |
23445.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].text |
來核定這樣的一個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].start |
23445.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].end |
23447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].text |
空間使用的一個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].start |
23447.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].end |
23449.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].text |
還有呢閒置 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].start |
23449.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].end |
23451.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].text |
是如何喉化空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].start |
23451.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].end |
23453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].text |
這樣的改善方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].start |
23453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].end |
23455.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].text |
我們希望呢文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].start |
23455.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].end |
23457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].text |
能夠提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].start |
23457.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].end |
23459.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].text |
那這個案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].start |
23459.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].end |
23461.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].text |
我是凍結五百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].start |
23461.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].end |
23463.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].text |
那第二個案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].start |
23463.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].end |
23465.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].text |
七十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].start |
23467.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].end |
23469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].text |
那七十案呢是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].start |
23469.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].end |
23471.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].text |
屬於文策院的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].start |
23471.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].end |
23473.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].text |
政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].start |
23473.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].end |
23475.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].text |
文策院呢是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].start |
23475.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].end |
23477.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].text |
政策的一個工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].start |
23477.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].end |
23479.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].text |
不是黑箱資金的水庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].start |
23479.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].end |
23481.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].text |
那文化部呢要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].start |
23481.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].end |
23483.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].text |
若要繼續來支持文策院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].start |
23483.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].end |
23485.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].text |
就要讓立法院能夠看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].start |
23485.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].end |
23487.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].text |
錢投到哪裡去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].start |
23487.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].end |
23489.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].text |
那成果又如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].start |
23489.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].end |
23491.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].text |
市府呢是集中在少數的一個對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].start |
23491.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].end |
23493.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].text |
那這個補助的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].start |
23493.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].end |
23495.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].text |
能夠更多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].start |
23495.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].end |
23497.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].text |
這個機會呢要公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].start |
23497.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].end |
23499.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].text |
那也要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].start |
23499.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].end |
23501.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].text |
更多的藝人呢有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].start |
23501.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].end |
23503.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].text |
能夠有政府的依靠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].start |
23503.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].end |
23505.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].text |
這是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].start |
23505.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].end |
23507.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].text |
強調跟堅持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].start |
23507.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].end |
23509.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].text |
所以這個案呢我凍結了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].start |
23509.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].end |
23511.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].text |
五千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].start |
23510.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].end |
23512.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].text |
那第三個案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].start |
23512.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].end |
23514.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].start |
23514.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].end |
23516.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].text |
就是文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].start |
23516.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].end |
23518.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].text |
文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].start |
23518.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].end |
23520.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].text |
這個呢我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].start |
23520.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].end |
23522.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].text |
相當支持啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].start |
23522.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].end |
23524.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].text |
但是文化部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].start |
23524.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].end |
23526.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].text |
不能只說年輕人有使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].start |
23526.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].end |
23528.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].text |
那還要說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].start |
23528.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].end |
23530.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].text |
是誰用得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].start |
23530.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].end |
23532.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].text |
那誰用不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].start |
23532.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].end |
23534.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].text |
那尤其呢是偏鄉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].start |
23534.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].end |
23536.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].text |
偏鄉的這些孩子呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].start |
23536.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].end |
23538.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].text |
他是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].start |
23538.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].end |
23540.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].text |
以公平原則來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].start |
23540.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].end |
23542.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].text |
他是不是真的用到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].start |
23542.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].end |
23544.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].text |
那如果用不到的話呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].start |
23544.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].end |
23546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].text |
那我們也要探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].start |
23546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].end |
23548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].text |
那到底是什麼因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].start |
23548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].end |
23550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].text |
那這些偏鄉的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].start |
23550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].end |
23552.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].text |
沒有辦法呢跟我們都會區的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].start |
23552.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].end |
23554.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].text |
共同這樣的一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].start |
23554.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].end |
23556.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].text |
跟一個平等 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].start |
23556.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].end |
23558.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].text |
那在這個部分呢也希望呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].start |
23558.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].end |
23560.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].text |
文化部能夠做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].start |
23560.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].end |
23562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].text |
那在這個案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].start |
23562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].end |
23564.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].text |
我是凍結三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].start |
23564.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].end |
23566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].text |
那以上三個案呢那我們就先 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].start |
23566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].end |
23568.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].text |
先聽文化部的一個解說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].start |
23568.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].end |
23570.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].text |
那個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].start |
23570.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].end |
23572.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].text |
那我們再來處理如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].start |
23572.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].end |
23574.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].text |
這個那個預算案如何來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].start |
23574.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].end |
23576.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].start |
23578.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].end |
23580.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].text |
準備意味著 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].start |
23581.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].end |
23583.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].text |
好我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].start |
23583.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].end |
23585.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].start |
23585.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].end |
23587.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].text |
我這邊有第五十九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].start |
23587.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].end |
23589.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].text |
還有第七十五案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].start |
23589.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].end |
23591.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].text |
五十九案是關於文化幣的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].start |
23591.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].end |
23593.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].text |
其實剛剛非常多委員就提到文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].start |
23593.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].end |
23595.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].start |
23595.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].end |
23597.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].text |
按照思量委員剛剛建議的那個數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].start |
23597.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].end |
23599.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].text |
將近四分之一的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].start |
23599.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].end |
23601.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].text |
是沒有領文化幣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].start |
23601.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].end |
23603.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].text |
那其實就回應到另外一個我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].start |
23603.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].end |
23605.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].text |
文化部已經討論很多年 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].start |
23605.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].end |
23607.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].text |
就是文化幣到底可不可以買電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].start |
23607.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].end |
23609.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].text |
甚至電子書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].start |
23609.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].end |
23611.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].text |
其實不是只有我們一般讀者在使用的電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].start |
23611.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].end |
23613.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].text |
它可能還包含有聲書 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].start |
23613.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].end |
23615.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].text |
還有無障礙版本的電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].start |
23615.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].end |
23617.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].text |
這樣的數位圖書 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].start |
23617.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].end |
23619.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].text |
它甚至可以有利於不同的族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].start |
23619.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].end |
23621.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].text |
還有不同的身體狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].start |
23621.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].end |
23623.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].text |
的讀者可以使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].start |
23623.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].end |
23625.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].text |
那但是文化部確實對文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].start |
23625.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].end |
23627.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].text |
可不可以購買 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].start |
23627.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].end |
23629.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].text |
電子書這件事情是有相關疑慮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].start |
23629.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].end |
23631.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].text |
你們的說法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].start |
23631.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].end |
23633.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].text |
會不會跑去買OTT平台啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].start |
23633.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].end |
23635.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].text |
音樂串流Spotify這種數位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].start |
23635.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].end |
23637.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].text |
消費喔可是我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].start |
23637.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].end |
23639.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].text |
這個相關的爭議應該還不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].start |
23639.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].end |
23641.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].text |
擴散到那裡去因為如果文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].start |
23641.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].end |
23645.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].text |
對於偏鄉的讀者 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].start |
23645.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].end |
23647.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].text |
或是偏鄉的年輕人在取用上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].start |
23647.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].end |
23649.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].text |
或在使用上確實有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].start |
23649.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].end |
23651.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].text |
那我認為逐步開放 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].start |
23651.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].end |
23653.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].text |
買電子書在文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].start |
23653.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].end |
23655.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].text |
這件事情是有其意義的也拜託文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].start |
23655.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].end |
23657.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].text |
持續考慮跟討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].start |
23657.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].end |
23659.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].text |
那我們看到相關文化幣的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].start |
23659.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].end |
23661.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].text |
有六成的文化幣用在六都 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].start |
23661.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].end |
23663.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].text |
所以也就是說文化金融性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].start |
23663.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].end |
23665.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].text |
這件事情確實是文化幣以後在推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].start |
23665.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].end |
23667.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].text |
要持續注意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].start |
23667.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].end |
23669.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].text |
再來我還有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].start |
23669.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].end |
23671.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].text |
目前文化部有一個文創園區的白皮書 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].start |
23671.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].end |
23673.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].text |
可是事實上是看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].start |
23673.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].end |
23675.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].text |
除了華山文創園區之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].start |
23675.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].end |
23677.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].text |
台中嘉義台南花蓮 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].start |
23677.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].end |
23679.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].text |
這四個地方的文創園區狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].start |
23679.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].end |
23681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].text |
其實越來越辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].start |
23681.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].end |
23683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].text |
那不論是生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].start |
23683.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].end |
23685.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].text |
台灣生活美學基金會在招商上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].start |
23685.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].end |
23687.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].text |
或者是到底是用什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].start |
23687.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].end |
23689.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].text |
發包的狀況其實看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].start |
23689.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].end |
23691.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].text |
每一個文創園區都沒有辦法吸引 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].start |
23691.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].end |
23693.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].text |
足夠多的人走進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].start |
23693.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].end |
23695.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].text |
看展也好消費也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].start |
23695.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].end |
23697.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].text |
那所以我認為在各個文創園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].start |
23697.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].end |
23699.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].text |
的特色論述招商策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].start |
23699.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].end |
23703.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].text |
活動策劃的方針都應該要重新檢討經營模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].start |
23703.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].end |
23705.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].text |
明明我們已經有白皮書了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].start |
23705.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].end |
23707.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].text |
可是看到真的是美下浴礦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].start |
23707.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].end |
23709.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].text |
再來就是空總台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].start |
23709.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].end |
23711.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].text |
當代文化實驗場第二期整體發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].start |
23711.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].end |
23713.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].text |
到現在為止已經第七年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].start |
23713.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].end |
23715.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].text |
可是一樣看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].start |
23715.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].end |
23717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].text |
有很多的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].start |
23717.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].end |
23719.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].text |
這個一樣要文化部持續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].start |
23719.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].end |
23721.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].text |
再來75案是關於文策 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].start |
23721.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].end |
23723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].text |
院我的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].start |
23723.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].end |
23725.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].text |
第一個是關於影視作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].start |
23725.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].end |
23727.81 |
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雖然像部長說這幾年在台灣票房 |
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越來越好可是背後的 |
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極高的 |
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23733.81 |
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風險我們看到越來越 |
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23733.81 |
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23735.81 |
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辛苦那今年我們看到文化 |
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部跟勞動部在相關的新聞 |
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23739.81 |
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事件發生之後立刻公布 |
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23739.81 |
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23741.81 |
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的一個新聞稿說會加強安全 |
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23741.81 |
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管理包含影視製作如果 |
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23743.81 |
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來拿補助啦 |
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那也要把職案的機制納入補助 |
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的規範那可是我會說 |
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這樣還不夠因為 |
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以我們辦公室來研究後發現 |
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23753.81 |
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23755.81 |
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文化部文策院加公共電視 |
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23755.81 |
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23757.81 |
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這三年來投資在影視產業 |
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23757.81 |
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23759.81 |
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的資金文策院 |
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23759.81 |
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23761.81 |
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跟公視各佔了20%到25% |
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23761.81 |
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23763.81 |
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也就是其實很重的分量 |
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23765.81 |
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那相關的補助跟投資 |
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23767.81 |
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的內容除了規範之外 |
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23767.81 |
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如何協助業者在 |
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23769.81 |
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23771.81 |
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投資方跟勞方 |
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23771.81 |
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23773.81 |
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大家都可以有一個均衡的情況下 |
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23773.81 |
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23775.81 |
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把職安的現場的 |
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23775.81 |
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23777.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].text |
風險佔到對的職安標準 |
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23777.81 |
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23779.81 |
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拉高我覺得這才是 |
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23779.81 |
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23781.81 |
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從事影視產業人的福利 |
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23781.81 |
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23783.81 |
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接下來我要說國家圖書館從 |
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23783.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].end |
23785.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].text |
2019年每一年都有發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].start |
23785.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].end |
23787.81 |
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台灣閱讀風貌跟全民閱讀力 |
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23787.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].end |
23789.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].text |
針對圖書館的服務 |
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23789.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].end |
23791.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].text |
利用作為統計的標的 |
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23791.81 |
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23793.81 |
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可是我們一直有在提醒文化部 |
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因為文策院自己也有做 |
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23795.81 |
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23797.81 |
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出版產業的報告 |
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23799.81 |
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文化部也好文策院也好或是 |
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23799.81 |
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23801.81 |
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國家圖書館其實你們手上都有 |
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23801.81 |
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23803.81 |
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相關閱讀的數據可是 |
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23803.81 |
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23805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].text |
如果各行其事沒有一個統一 |
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23805.81 |
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23807.81 |
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的報告其實對於呈現台灣閱讀的 |
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23807.81 |
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風貌還是有 |
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有所偏頗跟 |
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23811.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].end |
23813.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].text |
我覺得有點可惜所以我這邊還是 |
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23813.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].end |
23815.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].text |
希望文策院跟國圖 |
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23815.81 |
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23817.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].text |
還有文化部可以合作完善 |
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23817.81 |
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23819.81 |
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出版報告好 |
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23819.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].end |
23821.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].text |
第四幕就以上到這邊謝謝 |
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23825.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].end |
23827.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].text |
好謝謝主席 |
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23827.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].end |
23829.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].text |
我們先吳立華委員待會羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].start |
23829.75 |
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23831.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].text |
謝謝主席 |
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23831.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].end |
23833.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].text |
在這一幕我有兩案 |
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23833.75 |
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23835.75 |
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一個是第71案 |
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23835.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].end |
23837.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].text |
一個是第80案 |
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23837.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].end |
23839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].text |
那我也都可以改為 |
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23839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].end |
23841.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].text |
主決議但是我希望 |
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23841.75 |
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可以得到比較好的書面 |
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23845.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].text |
回應那在71 |
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23845.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].end |
23847.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].text |
案跟大家一樣都很 |
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23847.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].end |
23849.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].text |
關心文策院因為 |
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23849.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].end |
23851.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].text |
文策院設立以來我們 |
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23851.75 |
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23853.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].text |
其實有很多美好的想像 |
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23853.75 |
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23855.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].text |
跟期待 |
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23855.75 |
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23857.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].text |
那我們特別希望他能夠整合 |
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23857.75 |
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23859.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].text |
我們國家的資源帶動 |
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23859.75 |
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23861.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].text |
我們的藝文產業化跟國際化 |
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23861.75 |
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23863.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].text |
那能夠帶領 |
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23863.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].end |
23865.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].text |
台灣的文化品牌走向 |
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23865.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].end |
23867.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].text |
全球的市場 |
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23867.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].end |
23869.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].text |
所以簡單來講就是 |
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23869.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].end |
23871.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].text |
希望他就是 |
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23871.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].end |
23873.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].text |
藝文的經紀人跟 |
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23873.75 |
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23875.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].text |
投資銀行然後幫台灣 |
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23875.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].end |
23877.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].text |
的好故事能夠找資金 |
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23877.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].end |
23879.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].text |
找國際買家做 |
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23879.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].end |
23881.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].text |
文化創意包裝能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].start |
23881.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].end |
23883.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].text |
成為全球熱門商品 |
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23883.75 |
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23885.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].text |
那我個人是因為 |
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23885.75 |
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23887.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].text |
其實我們常常去 |
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23887.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].end |
23889.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].text |
接到一些陳情就是很多 |
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23889.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].end |
23891.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].text |
台灣的好故事 |
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23891.75 |
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23893.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].text |
像是原住民 |
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23893.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].end |
23895.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].text |
的故事等等但是 |
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23895.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].end |
23897.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].text |
他們就是很不主流 |
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23897.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].end |
23899.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].text |
特別需要 |
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23899.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].end |
23901.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].text |
很多的關注因為這些 |
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23901.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].end |
23903.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].text |
台灣在地的好故事其實 |
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23903.75 |
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23905.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].text |
我認為是非常值得 |
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23905.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].end |
23907.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].text |
走向國際所以這個 |
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23907.75 |
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23909.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].text |
部分常常覺得他們很 |
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23909.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].end |
23911.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].text |
辛苦所以我也希望說 |
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23911.75 |
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23913.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].text |
文策院在這個部分 |
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23913.75 |
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23915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].text |
能夠去主動的去 |
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23915.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].end |
23917.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].text |
積極的協助 |
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23917.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].end |
23919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].text |
輔導這是我們的一個 |
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23919.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].end |
23921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].text |
期待另外在第 |
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23921.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].end |
23923.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].text |
80案就是大家 |
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23923.75 |
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23925.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].text |
關心的文化幣那我們 |
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23925.75 |
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23927.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].text |
對文化幣其實大家都 |
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23927.75 |
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23929.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].text |
很支持覺得這是一個很棒 |
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23929.75 |
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| transcript.whisperx[7869].text |
的政策那時事以來呢 |
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23931.75 |
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23933.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].text |
對象是逐年的 |
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23933.75 |
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23935.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].text |
擴大但是呢 |
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23935.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].end |
23937.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].text |
他的實際領取情形 |
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23937.75 |
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23939.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].text |
卻逐年的 |
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23939.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].end |
23941.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].text |
就是越來越多人沒有在 |
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23941.75 |
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23943.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].text |
領取那我這個部分是 |
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23943.75 |
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23945.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].text |
特別支持的原因 |
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23945.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].end |
23947.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].text |
是因為其實很多 |
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23947.75 |
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23949.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].text |
原偏鄉的孩子 |
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23949.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].end |
23951.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].text |
處於弱勢文化不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].start |
23951.75 |
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23953.75 |
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地區的孩子有 |
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23953.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].end |
23955.75 |
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了這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].start |
23955.75 |
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23957.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].text |
文化幣他有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].start |
23957.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].end |
23959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].text |
去獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].start |
23959.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].end |
23961.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].text |
家裡沒有辦法提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].start |
23961.75 |
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23963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].text |
給他的這些藝文的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].start |
23963.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].end |
23965.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].text |
消費那但是他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].start |
23965.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].end |
23967.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].text |
到底是不是屬於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].start |
23967.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].end |
23969.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].text |
不去領取的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].start |
23969.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].end |
23971.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].text |
我們一直好像也得不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].start |
23971.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].end |
23973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].text |
一個實際的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].start |
23973.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].end |
23975.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].text |
但是我個人認為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].start |
23975.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].end |
23977.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].text |
應該他們是反而獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].start |
23977.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].end |
23979.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].text |
更多的機會可以出去獲得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].start |
23979.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].end |
23981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].text |
這些藝文消費那如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].start |
23981.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].end |
23983.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].text |
真的不領取的這些人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].start |
23983.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].end |
23985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].text |
絕大部分是來自於原偏鄉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].start |
23985.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].end |
23987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].text |
那有沒有可能其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].start |
23987.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].end |
23989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].text |
獲得的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].start |
23989.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].end |
23991.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].text |
那甚至是看到有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].start |
23991.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].end |
23993.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].text |
四分之一的人不領取 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].start |
23993.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].end |
23995.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].text |
有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].start |
23994.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].end |
23996.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].text |
有待用文化幣這樣的一個概念 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].start |
23996.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].end |
23998.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].text |
就是留給這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].start |
23998.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].end |
24000.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].text |
實在是文化不利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].start |
24000.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].end |
24002.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].text |
地方的這些對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].start |
24002.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].end |
24004.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].text |
讓他們有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].start |
24004.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].end |
24006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].text |
去獲得更多的一個文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].start |
24006.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].end |
24008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].text |
所以這個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].start |
24008.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].end |
24010.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].text |
希望得到一個清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].start |
24010.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].end |
24012.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].text |
書面報告那我就改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].start |
24012.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].end |
24014.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].start |
24016.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].end |
24018.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].text |
好改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].start |
24018.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].end |
24020.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].start |
24019.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].end |
24021.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].text |
好那個76案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].start |
24021.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].end |
24023.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].text |
也是文化幣本來是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].start |
24023.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].end |
24025.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].text |
凍結1%現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].start |
24025.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].end |
24027.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].text |
也同意改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].start |
24027.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].end |
24029.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].text |
剛剛其實都已經講過就是為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].start |
24029.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].end |
24031.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].text |
領取人數逐年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].start |
24031.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].end |
24033.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].text |
那這個文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].start |
24033.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].end |
24035.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].text |
部的整個的做法應該要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].start |
24035.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].end |
24037.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].text |
重新檢討但是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].start |
24037.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].end |
24039.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].text |
發放對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].start |
24039.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].end |
24041.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].text |
擴大但為領取率 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].start |
24041.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].end |
24043.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].text |
卻一直升高而且民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].start |
24043.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].end |
24045.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].text |
的消費習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].start |
24045.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].end |
24047.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].text |
逐漸朝線上發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].start |
24047.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].end |
24049.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].text |
所以我覺得文化部應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].start |
24049.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].end |
24051.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].text |
謀取更多適當多元的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].start |
24051.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].end |
24053.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].text |
藝文消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].start |
24053.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].end |
24055.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].text |
來達到振興藝文產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].start |
24055.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].end |
24057.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].text |
效果所以本來提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].start |
24057.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].end |
24059.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].text |
是凍結預算1% |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].start |
24059.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].end |
24061.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].text |
但文化部有說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].start |
24061.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].end |
24063.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].text |
114年領取率下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].start |
24063.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].end |
24065.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].text |
是因為示範13到15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].start |
24065.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].end |
24067.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].text |
歲科領文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].start |
24067.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].end |
24069.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].text |
但剛才凌晨 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].start |
24069.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].end |
24071.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].text |
藝文消費習慣還沒有建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].start |
24071.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].end |
24073.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].text |
上代建立那16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].start |
24073.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].end |
24075.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].text |
到22歲領取率過去相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].start |
24075.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].end |
24077.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].text |
而開放電子書OTT影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].start |
24077.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].end |
24079.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].text |
英利瑞串流平台等數位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].start |
24079.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].end |
24081.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].text |
型態的文化消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].start |
24081.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].end |
24083.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].text |
也涉及了整體資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].start |
24083.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].end |
24085.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].text |
配置產業影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].start |
24085.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].end |
24087.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].text |
這些議題還要一些通盤的準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].start |
24087.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].end |
24089.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].text |
所以同意改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].start |
24089.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].end |
24091.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].start |
24094.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].end |
24096.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].text |
好那我自己呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].start |
24096.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].end |
24098.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].text |
是60案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].start |
24098.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].end |
24100.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].text |
那我想60案的論述呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].start |
24100.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].end |
24102.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].text |
其實大同小異啦都跟所有的委員很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].start |
24102.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].end |
24104.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].text |
有關於文化成年禮金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].start |
24104.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].end |
24106.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].text |
常態化發放對象到13到22歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].start |
24106.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].end |
24108.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].text |
但是我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].start |
24108.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].end |
24110.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].text |
在這個立法院的預算評估指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].start |
24110.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].end |
24112.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].text |
這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].start |
24112.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].end |
24114.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].text |
112年度從11.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].start |
24114.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].end |
24116.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].text |
未領取的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].start |
24116.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].end |
24118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].text |
那提升到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].start |
24118.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].end |
24120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].text |
114年8月20 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].start |
24120.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].end |
24122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].text |
24.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].start |
24122.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].end |
24124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].text |
那我認為不管 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].start |
24124.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].end |
24126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].text |
文化部的說法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].start |
24126.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].end |
24128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].text |
那我們也看到現在青年文化的消費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].start |
24128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].end |
24130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].text |
線上串流數位閱讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].start |
24130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].end |
24132.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].text |
這個都有差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].start |
24132.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].end |
24134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].text |
所以很少會有這樣子的一個鼓勵的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].start |
24134.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].end |
24136.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].text |
結果越來越多人不領 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].start |
24136.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].end |
24138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].text |
所以到底是你們的補助沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].start |
24138.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].end |
24140.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].text |
吸引力還是實際跟不上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].start |
24140.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].end |
24142.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].text |
大家的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].start |
24142.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].end |
24144.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].text |
這部分你們真的要好好的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].start |
24144.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].end |
24146.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].start |
24146.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].end |
24148.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].text |
我覺得大家都還 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].start |
24148.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].end |
24150.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].text |
算是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].start |
24150.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].end |
24152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].text |
一起探討一起精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].start |
24152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].end |
24154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].text |
但是我想有一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].start |
24154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].end |
24156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].text |
我要跟進我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].start |
24156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].end |
24158.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].start |
24158.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].end |
24160.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].text |
羅志祥委員在68案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].start |
24160.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].end |
24162.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].text |
大家所看到的就加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].start |
24162.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].end |
24164.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].text |
投資文化創意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].start |
24164.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].end |
24166.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].text |
產業實施方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].start |
24166.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].end |
24168.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].text |
不管是文策院所執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].start |
24168.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].end |
24170.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].text |
國發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].start |
24170.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].end |
24172.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].text |
就委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].start |
24172.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].end |
24174.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].text |
羅志祥委員所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].start |
24174.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].end |
24176.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].text |
這個公伏這個補助1.5億 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].start |
24176.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].end |
24178.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].text |
那他這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].start |
24178.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].end |
24180.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].text |
這個公伏的票房呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].start |
24180.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].end |
24182.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].text |
僅為4693萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].start |
24182.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].end |
24184.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].text |
這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].start |
24184.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].end |
24186.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].text |
這個我尊重委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].start |
24186.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].end |
24188.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].text |
但是我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].start |
24188.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].end |
24190.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].text |
這真的是蠻誇張的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].start |
24190.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].end |
24192.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].text |
讓我也不能夠接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].start |
24192.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].end |
24194.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].text |
那不能夠接受哪裡呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].start |
24194.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].end |
24196.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].text |
我再加強這個論述請各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].start |
24196.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].end |
24198.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].text |
可以聽聽看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].start |
24198.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].end |
24200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].text |
在113年度的時候3月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].start |
24200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].end |
24202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].text |
我就已經質詢過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].start |
24202.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].end |
24204.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].text |
文化部投資都慘賠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].start |
24204.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].end |
24206.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].text |
而且把國發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].start |
24206.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].end |
24208.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].text |
當成是文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].start |
24208.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].end |
24210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].text |
小金庫我當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].start |
24210.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].end |
24212.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].text |
所知喔很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].start |
24212.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].end |
24214.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].text |
在文策院國發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].start |
24214.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].end |
24216.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].text |
相關的這些預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].start |
24217.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].end |
24219.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].text |
將投資項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].start |
24219.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].end |
24221.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].text |
預算金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].start |
24221.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].end |
24223.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].text |
還有績效一一列給我看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].start |
24223.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].end |
24225.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].text |
不看沒事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].start |
24225.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].end |
24227.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].text |
一看嚇一跳大家聽聽看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].start |
24227.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].end |
24229.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].text |
首先當然啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].start |
24229.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].end |
24231.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].text |
兩個單位我問文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].start |
24231.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].end |
24233.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].text |
文化部回答說投資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].start |
24233.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].end |
24235.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].text |
件數有99件文策院說68件 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].start |
24235.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].end |
24237.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].text |
我不知道文策院當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].start |
24237.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].end |
24239.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].text |
少了31件是跑到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].start |
24239.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].end |
24241.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].text |
我有質詢但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].start |
24241.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].end |
24243.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].text |
後面的數據我才真的嚇一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].start |
24243.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].end |
24245.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].text |
大家聽聽看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].start |
24245.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].end |
24247.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].text |
我隨便舉幾個例子我當時所知道的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].start |
24248.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].end |
24250.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].text |
當時整個文策院利用國發基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].start |
24250.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].end |
24254.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].text |
來投資相關的電影事業產業喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].start |
24255.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].end |
24257.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].text |
我的麻吉四個鬼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].start |
24258.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].end |
24260.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].text |
賠了823萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].start |
24261.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].end |
24263.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].text |
詐團員賠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].start |
24263.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].end |
24265.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].text |
897萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].start |
24265.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].end |
24267.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].text |
流麻溝15號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].start |
24267.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].end |
24269.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].text |
賠了997萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].start |
24269.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].end |
24271.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].text |
我的天堂城市 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].start |
24271.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].end |
24275.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].text |
賠了1169萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].start |
24276.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].end |
24278.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].text |
山中森林這部電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].start |
24278.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].end |
24280.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].text |
賠了1437萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].start |
24282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].end |
24284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].text |
他馬克老闆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].start |
24284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].end |
24286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].text |
賠了1782萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].start |
24286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].end |
24288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].text |
1782萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].start |
24288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].end |
24290.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].text |
賠還不是當時最多的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].start |
24290.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].end |
24292.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].text |
那我想專案投資是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].start |
24292.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].end |
24294.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].text |
獨有的一個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].start |
24294.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].end |
24296.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].text |
這沒有什麼不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].start |
24296.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].end |
24298.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].text |
我們一定支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].start |
24298.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].end |
24300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].text |
我們一定支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].start |
24300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].end |
24302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].text |
我們的國片可是我真的很納悶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].start |
24302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].end |
24304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].text |
有一句話常言道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].start |
24306.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].end |
24308.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].text |
投資有賺有賠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].start |
24308.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].end |
24310.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].text |
但每一案都慘賠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].start |
24311.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].end |
24313.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].text |
這個真的是完全不合理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].start |
24313.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].end |
24317.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].text |
所以怎麼會每個案子都慘賠的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].start |
24317.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].end |
24319.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].text |
還越投越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].start |
24319.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].end |
24321.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].text |
我想這個真的不想要說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].start |
24321.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].end |
24323.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].text |
今天絕對不是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].start |
24323.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].end |
24325.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].text |
公司這一案而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].start |
24325.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].end |
24327.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].text |
是有雪淋淋的這些潛力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].start |
24327.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].end |
24329.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].text |
我還是再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].start |
24329.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].end |
24331.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].text |
支持國片我們大家都願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].start |
24331.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].end |
24333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].text |
你可以繼續投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].start |
24333.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].end |
24335.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].text |
但是面對每一部片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].start |
24335.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].end |
24337.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].text |
都慘賠我們到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].start |
24337.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].end |
24339.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].text |
有什麼配套 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].start |
24339.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].end |
24341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].text |
告訴我們的國人你的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].start |
24341.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].end |
24343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].text |
我們沒有浪費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].start |
24343.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].end |
24345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].text |
這些後續的效益呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].start |
24345.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].end |
24347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].text |
當時給我的回應就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].start |
24347.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].end |
24349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].text |
沒有啦效黨沒多久啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].start |
24349.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].end |
24351.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].text |
有的還在驗現片啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].start |
24351.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].end |
24353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].text |
這個資料呢歡迎你補給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].start |
24353.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].end |
24355.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].text |
我希望他賺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].start |
24355.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].end |
24357.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].text |
我希望你們對於國片越多的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].start |
24357.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].end |
24359.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].text |
但是只給錢是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].start |
24359.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].end |
24361.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].text |
你們的政策有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].start |
24361.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].end |
24363.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].text |
是不是應該要其他的輔助 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].start |
24363.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].end |
24365.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].start |
24364.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].end |
24366.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].text |
當年度同一個質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].start |
24366.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].end |
24368.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].text |
我也一直在強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].start |
24368.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].end |
24370.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].text |
我們現在文化部台灣現在的兒童節目的自製比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].start |
24372.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].end |
24374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].text |
看到這支比例是8% |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].start |
24374.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].end |
24376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].text |
全球排名是倒數 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].start |
24376.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].end |
24378.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].text |
台灣的小朋友基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].start |
24378.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].end |
24380.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].text |
都是看兒童節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].start |
24379.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].end |
24381.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].text |
但是呢都在看玻璃 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].start |
24381.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].end |
24383.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].text |
碰碰舞baby shark |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].start |
24383.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].end |
24385.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].text |
這些都國外的節目那青衣社 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].start |
24385.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].end |
24387.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].text |
要嘛就韓國的要嘛就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].start |
24388.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].end |
24390.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].text |
All made |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].start |
24389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].end |
24391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].text |
這些兒童節目但是我們自製率 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].start |
24391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].end |
24393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].text |
這麼低的當下台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].start |
24393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].end |
24395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].text |
能不能有突破性兩年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].start |
24395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].end |
24397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].text |
或許你會告訴我8%變9% |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].start |
24397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].end |
24399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].text |
9%變10% |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].start |
24398.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].end |
24400.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].text |
我希望我們的這些文化內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].start |
24400.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].end |
24402.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].text |
是不是應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].start |
24402.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].end |
24404.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].text |
更迫切的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].start |
24404.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].end |
24406.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].text |
好好精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].start |
24406.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].end |
24408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].text |
錢花在刀口 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].start |
24408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].end |
24410.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].text |
不要再這樣子浪費公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].start |
24410.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].end |
24412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].text |
而且台灣的自製兒童節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].start |
24412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].end |
24414.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].text |
應該要 |
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更加的重視 |
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以上 |
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我們是不是請文化部回應 |
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謝謝大家指教 |
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我先回答文社院 |
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包括剛剛講到功夫 |
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還有很多電影都賠錢 |
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我來這邊 |
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趁這個機會稍微解釋一下 |
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當年那個文社院的成立其實是 |
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非常重要因為大家投資文創 |
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然後它其實有個最大的目的就是 |
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引進這個民間資金 |
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共同投資 |
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24446.02 |
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24448.02 |
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那電影這個產業如果沒有政府 |
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的扶持的話基本上 |
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他是沒有人敢拍因為 |
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他要拍一部賠一部 |
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所以從開始投資 |
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投資公司 |
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投資基金到後來 |
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24460.02 |
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開始慢慢專案投資 |
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24462.02 |
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我必須承認專案投資 |
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的風險非常大 |
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所以講到功夫 |
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24468.02 |
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我個人沒有經歷但是我想當年 |
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24470.02 |
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會這麼 |
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花這麼多的錢投資功夫可能就是 |
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因為當時他們看好這個 |
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九把刀然後他 |
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曾經好幾部電影都賣了好幾億 |
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24479.56 |
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24481.56 |
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然後他想用這部電影 |
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24481.56 |
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作為一個台灣好久沒有的 |
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好久沒有的功夫片 |
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他具有一種開創性 |
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24487.56 |
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24489.56 |
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以上是我後來去查資料他們 |
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24489.56 |
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24491.56 |
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為什麼這樣願意投資他 |
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24491.56 |
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24493.56 |
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後來這個結果的確令人 |
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這個非常傻眼所以 |
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24497.56 |
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我個人在這邊代表這個 |
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24497.56 |
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文社院投資這個功夫 |
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這個慘賠 |
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我個人道歉向所有 |
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24503.56 |
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24505.56 |
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這個關心台灣影視 |
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24505.56 |
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24507.56 |
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的還有這個納稅人道歉 |
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24507.56 |
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24509.56 |
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那我2024年 |
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24509.56 |
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五月來文化部2024年 |
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24511.56 |
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八月我向當時的 |
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24513.56 |
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24515.56 |
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國發基金主委劉主委 |
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24515.56 |
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24517.56 |
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爭取下一個一百億 |
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24519.56 |
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第二個一百億我跟他保證 |
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24519.56 |
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24521.56 |
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我們自己會看守 |
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24521.56 |
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24523.56 |
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這個一百億然後我 |
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24523.56 |
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24525.56 |
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增加兩次的審查機會 |
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24525.56 |
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24527.56 |
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然後讓這個錢不要 |
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24529.56 |
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不要再 |
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24529.44 |
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24531.44 |
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發生剛才講的那個情況 |
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24531.44 |
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24533.44 |
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那要怎麼改變呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].start |
24533.44 |
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24535.44 |
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第一我們慢慢減少 |
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24535.44 |
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24537.44 |
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專案投資慢慢增加 |
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24537.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].end |
24539.44 |
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回到過去這種投資 |
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24539.44 |
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24541.44 |
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股份有限公司或者是 |
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24541.44 |
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24543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].text |
投資基金增加 |
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24543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].end |
24545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].text |
投資基金這個基金就是 |
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24545.44 |
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24547.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].text |
國內外的基金最後 |
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24547.44 |
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24549.44 |
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這個基金也還是回來投資 |
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24549.44 |
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24551.44 |
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所有的文創產業 |
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24551.44 |
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24553.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].text |
然後經過這個 |
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24553.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].end |
24555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].text |
短短的幾個月其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].start |
24555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].end |
24557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].text |
專案投資慢慢減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].start |
24557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].end |
24559.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].text |
這個基金國內外基金 |
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24559.44 |
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24561.44 |
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跟公司的股份投資 |
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24561.44 |
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24563.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].text |
慢慢增加那我必須解釋 |
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24563.44 |
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24565.44 |
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一下我自己在文策院 |
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24565.44 |
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24567.44 |
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成立的時候就是憑藉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].start |
24567.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].end |
24569.44 |
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的召集人連續兩次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].start |
24569.44 |
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24571.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].text |
所以我有看到文策院 |
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24571.44 |
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24573.44 |
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的問題所以我特別請到 |
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24573.44 |
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24575.44 |
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我們的王十志次長去兼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].start |
24575.44 |
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24577.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].text |
文策院的董事長 |
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24577.44 |
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24579.44 |
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他並不是要去干預 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].start |
24579.44 |
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24581.44 |
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他是我看到問題很嚴重 |
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24581.44 |
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24583.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].text |
所以我希望請他去 |
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24583.44 |
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24585.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].text |
了解另外我也請到一個 |
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24585.44 |
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24587.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].text |
台灣民會院長來自我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].start |
24587.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].end |
24589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].text |
台灣最大的會計師事務所 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].start |
24589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].end |
24591.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].text |
那他在那邊的酬勞 |
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24591.44 |
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24593.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].text |
遠遠大過我們請他的 |
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24593.44 |
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24595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].text |
酬勞就是我在這裡 |
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24595.44 |
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24597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].text |
一方面道歉一方面也跟 |
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24597.44 |
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24599.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].text |
各位解釋說 |
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24599.25 |
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24601.25 |
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我們有很努力的 |
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24601.25 |
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24603.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].text |
開始重新面對 |
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24603.25 |
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24605.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].text |
所有的這個國發基金 |
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24605.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].end |
24607.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].text |
要如何投資國內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].start |
24607.25 |
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24609.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].text |
不同產業所以 |
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24609.25 |
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24611.25 |
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文策院已經七年了 |
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24611.25 |
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24613.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].text |
當年會宣布成立文策院 |
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24613.25 |
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24615.25 |
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是很想對台灣的 |
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24615.25 |
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24617.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].text |
文創產業產生這個 |
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24617.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].end |
24619.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].text |
挹注捲動民間 |
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這個這個資金 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8204].text |
那中間的屢次 |
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屢次的投資失敗 |
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24627.25 |
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也讓我們學會了 |
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24627.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].end |
24629.25 |
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所以他們用什麼方式是比較正確的 |
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24629.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].end |
24631.25 |
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我在這裡懇請大家 |
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24633.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].text |
這個預算不要把我砍太多 |
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24633.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].end |
24635.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].text |
看在我們改變的分上 |
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24635.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].end |
24637.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].text |
少砍一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].start |
24637.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].end |
24639.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].text |
事實上文策院的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].start |
24639.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].end |
24641.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].text |
也差不多剛剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].start |
24641.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].end |
24643.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].text |
砍太多實在是無法經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].start |
24643.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].end |
24645.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].start |
24645.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].end |
24647.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].text |
好 羅志漾委員先說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].start |
24648.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].end |
24650.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].text |
首先我要肯定部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].start |
24650.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].end |
24652.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].text |
因為面對過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].start |
24652.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].end |
24654.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].text |
決策如果有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].start |
24654.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].end |
24656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].text |
疏忽勇於認錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].start |
24656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].end |
24658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].text |
就是改進的起點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].start |
24658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].end |
24660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].text |
我剛剛一開始就說過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].start |
24660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].end |
24662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].text |
不是衝著九把刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].start |
24662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].end |
24664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].text |
這部功夫而來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].start |
24664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].end |
24666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].text |
而是因為那個補助實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].start |
24666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].end |
24668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].text |
金額太大以至於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].start |
24668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].end |
24670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].text |
它發生的排擠效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].start |
24670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].end |
24672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].text |
清奪了其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].start |
24672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].end |
24674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].text |
可能更好的影視作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].start |
24674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].end |
24676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].text |
新銳導演他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].start |
24676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].end |
24678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].text |
能夠透過政府的扶持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].start |
24678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].end |
24680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].text |
然後去創造出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].start |
24680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].end |
24682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].text |
在國際舞台 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].start |
24682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].end |
24684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].text |
發光發熱的真正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].start |
24684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].end |
24686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].text |
所謂的好作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].start |
24686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].end |
24688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].text |
所以這部片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].start |
24688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].end |
24690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].text |
不是因為這部片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].start |
24690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].end |
24692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].text |
它如果是自己花自己掏腰包 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].start |
24692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].end |
24694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].text |
去拍片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].start |
24694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].end |
24696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].text |
然後九把刀 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].start |
24696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].end |
24698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].text |
自己賠自己的錢慘賠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].start |
24698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].end |
24700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].text |
我一點意見都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].start |
24700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].end |
24702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].text |
但是今天用公帑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].start |
24702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].end |
24704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].text |
已經不只是用納稅人的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].start |
24704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].end |
24706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].text |
而是因為這納稅的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].start |
24706.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].end |
24708.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].text |
編出來本來是要補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].start |
24708.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].end |
24710.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].text |
更多新銳的導演 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].start |
24710.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].end |
24712.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].text |
更多有潛力的所謂的影視的團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].start |
24712.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].end |
24714.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].text |
但是這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].start |
24714.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].end |
24716.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].text |
被剝奪了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].start |
24716.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].end |
24718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].text |
所以這邊我還是肯定這個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].start |
24718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].end |
24720.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].text |
願意針對過去的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].start |
24720.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].end |
24722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].text |
那表示歉意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].start |
24722.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].end |
24724.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].text |
也同時提出了精進的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].start |
24724.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].end |
24726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].text |
因此在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].start |
24726.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].end |
24728.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].text |
我就是把我的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].start |
24728.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].end |
24730.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].text |
改為凍結一千萬元 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].start |
24730.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].end |
24732.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].text |
那希望能夠把相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].start |
24732.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].end |
24734.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].text |
精進報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].start |
24734.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].end |
24736.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].text |
能夠提到我的辦公室來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].start |
24736.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].end |
24738.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].text |
那這是我的一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].start |
24738.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].end |
24740.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].start |
24738.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].end |
24740.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].text |
好 那因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].start |
24742.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].end |
24744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].text |
提案是羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].start |
24744.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].end |
24746.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].text |
我尊重他的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].start |
24746.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].end |
24748.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].text |
的一個更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].start |
24748.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].end |
24750.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].text |
對於部長願意承認錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].start |
24750.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].end |
24752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].text |
我們還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].start |
24752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].end |
24754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].text |
一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].start |
24754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].end |
24756.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].text |
覺得難能可貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].start |
24757.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].end |
24759.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].text |
那也非常謝謝你 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].start |
24759.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].end |
24761.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].text |
願意去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].start |
24761.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].end |
24763.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].text |
面對問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].start |
24787 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].end |
24789 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].text |
又慘賠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].start |
24789 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].end |
24791 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].text |
才願意來改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].start |
24791 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].end |
24793 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].text |
那這兩年我們到底改進了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].start |
24793 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].end |
24795 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].text |
我們到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].start |
24794.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].end |
24796.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].text |
能夠防範人民的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].start |
24796.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].end |
24798.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].text |
不要浪費到什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].start |
24798.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].end |
24800.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].text |
沒有 所以我覺得這兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].start |
24800.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].end |
24802.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].text |
等於又是賠了人民的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].start |
24802.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].end |
24804.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].start |
24806.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].end |
24808.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].text |
我就現在我只能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].start |
24808.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].end |
24810.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].text |
我很勉強的接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].start |
24810.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].end |
24812.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].text |
但是我真的拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].start |
24812.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].end |
24814.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].text |
我不是要您的道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].start |
24814.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].end |
24816.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].text |
而已 這個絕對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].start |
24816.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].end |
24818.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].text |
我沒有贏 我要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].start |
24818.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].end |
24820.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].text |
更精進的方案 所以也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].start |
24820.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].end |
24822.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].text |
會後一定要讓我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].start |
24822.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].end |
24824.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].text |
我也要相關的知道你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].start |
24824.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].end |
24826.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].text |
精進方案 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].start |
24827.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].end |
24829.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].text |
好 那我也表達我剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].start |
24829.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].end |
24831.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].text |
8185868788 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].start |
24831.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].end |
24833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].text |
我改主權意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].start |
24833.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].end |
24835.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].text |
那剛剛是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].start |
24835.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].end |
24837.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].text |
自強委員跟羅昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].start |
24837.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].end |
24839.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].text |
是確定是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].start |
24839.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].end |
24841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].text |
兩個文策院的案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].start |
24841.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].end |
24843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].text |
是並動一千萬嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].start |
24843.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].end |
24845.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].text |
那部長可以接受嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].start |
24846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].end |
24848.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].text |
等一下 等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].start |
24848.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].end |
24850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].text |
我們先討論完 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].start |
24850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].end |
24852.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].text |
因為他這個68案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].start |
24852.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].end |
24854.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].text |
那我前面我自己有60案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].start |
24854.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].end |
24856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].text |
那待會再一起談 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].start |
24856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].end |
24858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].text |
蔡順同委員跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].start |
24858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].end |
24860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].text |
吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].start |
24862.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].end |
24864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].text |
因為我的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].start |
24864.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].end |
24866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].text |
70案是跟羅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].start |
24866.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].end |
24868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].text |
是同案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].start |
24868.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].end |
24870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].text |
那我的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].start |
24870.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].end |
24872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].text |
就跟羅委員並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].start |
24872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].end |
24874.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].start |
24875.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].end |
24877.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].text |
好 蔡順同委員講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].start |
24877.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].end |
24879.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].text |
那我們就吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].start |
24879.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].end |
24881.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].text |
好 就是雖然我個人蠻喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].start |
24881.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].end |
24883.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].text |
公佛這部片 我也是春風的粉絲 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].start |
24883.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].end |
24885.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].text |
但是 我也認同說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].start |
24885.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].end |
24887.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].text |
文策院在投資上面確實要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].start |
24887.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].end |
24889.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].text |
有所調整 所以我要再次提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].start |
24889.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].end |
24891.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].text |
因為提醒過文策院很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].start |
24891.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].end |
24893.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].text |
就是我們過去對音樂產業的 |
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24893.26 |
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24895.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].text |
投資是偏少 |
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24895.26 |
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24897.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].text |
而且是大量偏少的 這個比例 |
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24897.26 |
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24899.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].text |
上面請文策院真的要整體 |
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24899.26 |
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24901.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].text |
的來去平衡跟衡量 |
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24901.26 |
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24903.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].text |
好 這個是我也希望 |
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24903.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].end |
24905.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].text |
要列入今天的會議記錄 這個也 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].start |
24905.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].end |
24907.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].text |
要拜託部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].start |
24911.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].end |
24913.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].text |
好 那還有沒有委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].start |
24915.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].end |
24917.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].text |
主席我的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].start |
24917.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].end |
24919.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].text |
59案跟75案 |
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24919.66 |
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24921.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].text |
就並動 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].start |
24924.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].end |
24926.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].text |
好 委員所提的麻煩請幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].start |
24926.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].end |
24928.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].text |
一一的列下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].start |
24929.92 |
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24931.92 |
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可以啊 可以啊 可以啊 |
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24931.92 |
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24933.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].text |
謝謝主席 因為我的案子是64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].start |
24933.92 |
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24935.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].text |
那其實 |
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24936.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].end |
24938.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].text |
我覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].start |
24938.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].end |
24940.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].text |
我是肯定我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].start |
24940.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].end |
24942.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].text |
本身在這個業務上是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].start |
24942.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].end |
24944.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].text |
大家都非常努力與認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].start |
24944.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].end |
24946.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].text |
那我這個案子我改組 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].start |
24946.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].end |
24948.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].text |
決議 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].start |
24952.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].end |
24954.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].text |
好 那 村村委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].start |
24954.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].end |
24956.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].text |
對不起 對不起 蘇彬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].start |
24956.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].end |
24958.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].text |
再國語行委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].start |
24958.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].end |
24960.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].text |
我想請問 因為我剛才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].start |
24960.4 |
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24962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].text |
丟61案 可是還沒有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].start |
24962.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].end |
24964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].text |
文化部的這個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].start |
24964.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].end |
24966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].text |
回覆 是不是等一下會再 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].start |
24966.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].end |
24968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].text |
處理 那 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].start |
24968.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].end |
24970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].text |
沒有 只要你提出來 我就會要求他回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].start |
24970.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].end |
24972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].text |
OK 我剛才有提問啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].start |
24972.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].end |
24974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].text |
來 麻煩61的要記得回覆喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].start |
24974.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].end |
24976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].text |
不要沒回覆到 再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].start |
24976.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].end |
24978.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].text |
給你時間準備一下喔 村村委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].start |
24983.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].end |
24985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].text |
好 那那個 |
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24985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].end |
24987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].text |
66案喔 |
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24987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].end |
24989.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].text |
等一下請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].start |
24989.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].end |
24991.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].text |
說明一下 然後78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].start |
24991.19 |
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24993.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].text |
案 78 |
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24993.19 |
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24995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].text |
78案 這個呢 |
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24995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].end |
24997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].text |
可以改成主決議 |
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24997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].end |
24999.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].text |
但是呢 必須 |
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24999.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].end |
25001.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].text |
提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].start |
25001.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].end |
25003.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].text |
書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].start |
25003.19 |
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25005.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].text |
那66案呢 不好意思 是79 |
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25005.19 |
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25007.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].text |
案嗎 79案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].start |
25007.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].end |
25009.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].text |
對 那個文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].start |
25009.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].end |
25011.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].text |
文化幣的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].start |
25011.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].end |
25013.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].text |
可以改成主決議 |
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25013.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].end |
25015.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].text |
那有關於 |
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25015.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].end |
25017.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].start |
25017.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].end |
25019.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].text |
有一些書面 書面要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].start |
25019.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].end |
25021.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].text |
報告 需要改善的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].start |
25021.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].end |
25023.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].start |
25023.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].end |
25025.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].text |
報告過來喔 |
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25025.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].end |
25027.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].start |
25027.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].end |
25029.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].text |
這個文化部呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].start |
25029.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].end |
25031.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].text |
需要提出各支 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].start |
25031.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].end |
25033.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].text |
資安跟文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].start |
25033.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].end |
25035.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].text |
盡用成效的一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].start |
25038.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].end |
25040.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].text |
好 我的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].start |
25040.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].end |
25042.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].text |
剛剛就是除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].start |
25042.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].end |
25044.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].text |
67有改主決議 |
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25044.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].end |
25046.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].text |
那828384 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].start |
25046.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].end |
25048.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].text |
我都改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].start |
25048.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].end |
25050.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].start |
25052.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].end |
25056.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].text |
好 麻煩請依照委員剛剛所提主決議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].start |
25056.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].end |
25058.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].text |
一一的都列上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].start |
25058.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].end |
25060.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].text |
好 那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].start |
25060.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].end |
25062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].text |
我們現在要處理有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].start |
25062.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].end |
25064.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].text |
54到89案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].start |
25064.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].end |
25066.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].start |
25068.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].end |
25070.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].text |
喔對不起 六十一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].start |
25070.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].end |
25072.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].text |
六十一案要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].start |
25072.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].end |
25074.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].text |
還有村長委員你說幾案沒說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].start |
25075.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].end |
25077.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].text |
66嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].start |
25077.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].end |
25079.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].text |
66嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].start |
25079.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].end |
25081.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].text |
好 66跟6億麻煩請文化不說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].start |
25081.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].end |
25083.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].start |
25086.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].end |
25088.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].text |
我先說明那個密西陶托跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].start |
25088.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].end |
25090.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].text |
空總的事情就是劉樹斌委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].start |
25090.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].end |
25092.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].text |
跟蔡主持委員的詢問喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].start |
25092.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].end |
25094.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].text |
密西陶托這件事是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].start |
25094.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].end |
25096.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].text |
那事實上本來在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].start |
25096.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].end |
25098.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].text |
產業裡面的場地跟質安 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].start |
25098.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].end |
25100.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].text |
其實是有既有的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].start |
25100.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].end |
25102.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].text |
那但是因為密西陶托是一個新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].start |
25102.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].end |
25104.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].text |
模式形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].start |
25104.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].end |
25106.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].text |
所以呢現在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].start |
25106.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].end |
25108.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].text |
文化部呢會找包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].start |
25108.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].end |
25110.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].text |
勞動部 還有地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].start |
25110.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].end |
25112.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].text |
還有內政部 我們會有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].start |
25112.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].end |
25114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].text |
類似像宣導會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].start |
25114.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].end |
25116.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].text |
把這個到底在密西陶托裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].start |
25116.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].end |
25118.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].text |
要遵循的一些相關規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].start |
25118.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].end |
25120.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].text |
主要是定情化契約的指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].start |
25120.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].end |
25122.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].text |
會提供出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].start |
25122.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].end |
25124.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].text |
讓大家知道說在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].start |
25124.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].end |
25126.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].text |
新興的密西陶托的模式裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].start |
25126.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].end |
25128.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].text |
因為他是一個 其實他的確是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].start |
25128.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].end |
25130.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].text |
像委員說的 他是採全實名制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].start |
25130.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].end |
25132.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].text |
而且是小型 他比電影的人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].start |
25132.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].end |
25134.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].text |
更少 更能控制場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].start |
25134.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].end |
25136.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].text |
但是在這個模擬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].start |
25136.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].end |
25138.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].text |
就是虛實交錯的情境裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].start |
25138.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].end |
25140.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].text |
如何維持質安這件事情可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].start |
25140.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].end |
25142.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].text |
大家並不熟悉 所以我們會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].start |
25142.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].end |
25144.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].text |
勞動部一起 然後會找地方政府來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].start |
25144.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].end |
25146.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].text |
這樣子的協調跟宣導工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].start |
25146.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].end |
25148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].text |
那另外空總的部分是 |
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25148.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].end |
25150.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].text |
空總的部分其實現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].start |
25150.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].end |
25152.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].text |
他已經修好的地方的利用率 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].start |
25152.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].end |
25154.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].text |
是很高的 他幾乎已經修好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].start |
25154.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].end |
25156.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].text |
的地方利用率都是百分之百 都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].start |
25156.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].end |
25158.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].text |
一個空間很難求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].start |
25158.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].end |
25160.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].text |
那現在看到使用率還 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].start |
25160.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].end |
25162.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].text |
不好的地方是因為他基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].start |
25162.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].end |
25164.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].text |
還沒有進行完成古蹟修復 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].start |
25164.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].end |
25166.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].text |
所以在這幾個文創園區裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].start |
25166.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].end |
25168.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].text |
其實大家都面臨類似的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].start |
25168.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].end |
25170.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].text |
就是他一旦修好了之後 現在大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].start |
25170.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].end |
25172.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].text |
看到的像華山 這種就是他修好之後的利用狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].start |
25172.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].end |
25174.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].text |
那現在空總正在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].start |
25174.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].end |
25176.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].text |
修復當中 古蹟大樓馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].start |
25176.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].end |
25178.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].text |
會在七月的部分完成修復 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].start |
25178.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].end |
25180.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].text |
那另外花蓮的部分也大部分修好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].start |
25180.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].end |
25182.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].text |
所以花蓮文創園區也開始漸漸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].start |
25182.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].end |
25184.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].text |
有更多的使用率 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].start |
25184.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].end |
25186.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].text |
跟更多的團體進駐 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].start |
25186.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].end |
25188.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].text |
那在加創的部分也會進入新的一波 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].start |
25188.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].end |
25190.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].text |
修復 那主要是因為這些文創園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].start |
25190.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].end |
25192.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].text |
為什麼會交給文化部 都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].start |
25192.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].end |
25194.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].text |
因為他是所謂的文資 文化資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].start |
25194.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].end |
25196.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].text |
或者是他是一個歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].start |
25196.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].end |
25198.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].text |
建物 那基本上接收的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].start |
25198.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].end |
25200.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].text |
第一動都是要先編公務預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].start |
25200.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].end |
25202.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].text |
先把它修復成堪用的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].start |
25202.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].end |
25204.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].text |
他才會有接下來的營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].start |
25204.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].end |
25208.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].text |
跟這個復興跟商業模式的出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].start |
25208.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].end |
25210.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].text |
所以在花的時間會比較長 但是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].start |
25210.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].end |
25212.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].text |
目前為止每個園創園區的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].start |
25212.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].end |
25214.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].text |
都已經提出計畫並且在進行中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].start |
25214.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].end |
25216.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].text |
那委員關心的空總的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].start |
25216.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].end |
25218.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].text |
目前的確在今年是一個古蹟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].start |
25218.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].end |
25220.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].text |
修復計畫 那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].start |
25220.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].end |
25222.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].text |
修復完之後 當然這些空間就會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].start |
25222.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].end |
25224.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].text |
可以被更加的善用 也提高利用率 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].start |
25224.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].end |
25226.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].text |
以上補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].start |
25229.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].end |
25231.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].start |
25231.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].end |
25233.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].text |
劉書變委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].start |
25261.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].end |
25263.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].start |
25271.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].end |
25273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].text |
我這邊就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].start |
25273.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].end |
25275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].text |
針對我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].start |
25275.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].end |
25277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].text |
是凍結是兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].start |
25277.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].end |
25279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].text |
那我覺得因為要看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].start |
25279.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].end |
25281.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].text |
這必須需要比較多的協商的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].start |
25281.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].end |
25283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].text |
那而且真的是值得去投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].start |
25283.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].end |
25285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].text |
去關注這個產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].start |
25285.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].end |
25287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].text |
而且他們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].start |
25287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].end |
25289.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].text |
因為文化部是主管機構 所以想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].start |
25289.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].end |
25291.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].text |
比較富比較大 所以我會想說還是凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].start |
25291.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].end |
25293.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].text |
大概四百萬 這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].start |
25294.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].end |
25296.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].text |
好 有委員提自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].start |
25296.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].end |
25298.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].text |
OK 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].start |
25300.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].end |
25302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].text |
有委員提一千 有委員提四百 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].start |
25302.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].end |
25304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].text |
好 待會再討論要不要合併並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].start |
25304.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].end |
25306.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].text |
好 我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].start |
25308 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].end |
25310 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].text |
好 還有沒有 存受委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].start |
25311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].end |
25313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].text |
好 針對那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].start |
25313.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].end |
25315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].text |
66案 那我們希望文化部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].start |
25315.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].end |
25317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].text |
提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].start |
25317.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].end |
25319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].start |
25319.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].end |
25321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].text |
順便報告 就是整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].start |
25321.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].end |
25323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].text |
計畫的一個進度跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].start |
25323.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].end |
25325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].text |
合併的內容 還有空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].start |
25325.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].end |
25327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].text |
使用跟閒置的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].start |
25327.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].end |
25329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].text |
還有使用人次跟公共 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].start |
25329.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].end |
25331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].text |
禁用採購 還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].start |
25331.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].end |
25333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].text |
執行的期程 都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].start |
25333.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].end |
25335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].text |
自用跟契約承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].start |
25335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].end |
25337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].text |
這個順便報告完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].start |
25337.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].end |
25339.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].text |
那我就凍結一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].start |
25343.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].end |
25345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].text |
好 一千四百 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].start |
25345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].end |
25347.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].text |
一百 要不要討論待會並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].start |
25347.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].end |
25349.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].text |
再一起說 來 我知道委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].start |
25349.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].end |
25351.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].text |
對於處理預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].start |
25351.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].end |
25353.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].text |
我的建議是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].start |
25353.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].end |
25355.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].text |
因為志強委員有提 存受委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].start |
25355.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].end |
25357.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].text |
跟疏兵委員都有提 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].start |
25357.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].end |
25359.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].text |
那各有不同的數額 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].start |
25359.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].end |
25361.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].text |
那我覺得我們就取其高者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].start |
25361.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].end |
25363.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].text |
就是這一整幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].start |
25363.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].end |
25365.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].text |
我們就凍結一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].start |
25365.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].end |
25367.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].text |
但是他們去協調這幾個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].start |
25367.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].end |
25369.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].text |
該做的這個自己去著語調度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].start |
25369.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].end |
25371.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].text |
我覺得就是給文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].start |
25371.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].end |
25373.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].text |
一個很重的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].start |
25373.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].end |
25375.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].text |
並動一千萬 我們就取其高者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].start |
25375.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].end |
25377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].text |
那是不是真的大家的同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].start |
25377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].end |
25379.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].text |
我個人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].start |
25379.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].end |
25381.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].text |
都該主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].start |
25381.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].end |
25383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].text |
好 右委員提一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].start |
25383.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].end |
25385.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].text |
一千一千四百 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].start |
25385.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].end |
25387.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].text |
一百 待會大家一起討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].start |
25390.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].end |
25392.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].text |
要不要並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].start |
25392.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].end |
25394.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].text |
所以我建議就是 並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].start |
25394.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].end |
25396.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].text |
取其高者嘛 就是一整幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].start |
25396.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].end |
25398.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].text |
並動一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8533].start |
25406.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8533].end |
25408.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8533].text |
我是六十岸了齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8534].start |
25411.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8534].end |
25413.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8534].text |
那因為我六十岸呢 只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8535].start |
25413.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8535].end |
25415.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8535].text |
一百啦齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8536].start |
25418.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8536].end |
25420.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8536].text |
是不是跟羅志祥委員協調一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8537].start |
25420.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8537].end |
25422.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8537].text |
我們是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8538].start |
25422.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8538].end |
25424.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8538].text |
把他給夾在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].start |
25425.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].end |
25427.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].start |
25426.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].end |
25428.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].start |
25429.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].end |
25431.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].text |
但是我講真的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8542].start |
25431.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8542].end |
25433.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8542].text |
我不是針對文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].start |
25433.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].end |
25435.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].text |
你看我還特別為了你 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].start |
25435.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].end |
25437.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].text |
調出113年的質詢稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].start |
25437.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].end |
25439.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].text |
跟你講說這真的太過分了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].start |
25439.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].end |
25441.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].text |
113年就虧到現在了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].start |
25441.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].end |
25443.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].text |
這不是今年第一起虧 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].start |
25443.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].end |
25445.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].text |
虧好幾年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].start |
25445.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].end |
25447.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].text |
所以志祥委員是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].start |
25447.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].end |
25449.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].text |
再加個三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].start |
25449.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].end |
25451.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].text |
一千三 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].start |
25452.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].end |
25454.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].text |
一千三 我沒有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].start |
25454.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].end |
25456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].text |
一千五兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].start |
25456.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].end |
25458.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].text |
志祥委如果我們都取其 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].start |
25458.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].end |
25460.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].text |
沒有我跟志祥委商量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].start |
25460.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].end |
25462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].text |
因為大家都取其高者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].start |
25462.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].end |
25464.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].text |
那你剛剛是一百嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].start |
25464.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].end |
25466.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].text |
那他是一千 取其高者也不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].start |
25466.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].end |
25468.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].text |
變成一百加一千變一千三 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].start |
25468.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].end |
25470.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].text |
那我們這樣商量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].start |
25470.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].end |
25472.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].text |
不會啦 就是因為我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].start |
25472.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].end |
25474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].text |
幾個案子委員提案就是並動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].start |
25474.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].end |
25476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].text |
但是案子都列在並動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].start |
25476.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].end |
25478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].text |
這個項目裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].start |
25478.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].end |
25480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].text |
我覺得都達到 您的一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].start |
25480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].end |
25482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].text |
也在這個一千萬裡頭 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].start |
25482.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].end |
25484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].text |
真的 我是再次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].start |
25484.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].end |
25486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].text |
拜託可不可以這樣子處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].start |
25486.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].end |
25488.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].text |
我表達我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].start |
25488.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].end |
25490.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].text |
我真的覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].start |
25492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].end |
25494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].text |
就是無效委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].start |
25495.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].end |
25497.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].text |
如果我跟你同黨 我一定覺得你真的超認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].start |
25499.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].end |
25501.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].text |
你真的很努力在捍衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].start |
25501.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].end |
25503.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].text |
你應該覺得我很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].start |
25503.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].end |
25505.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].text |
就一千萬啦 就一件文化預算真的很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].start |
25505.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].end |
25507.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].text |
不是因為我們兩個人的藍綠質別 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].start |
25507.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].end |
25509.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].text |
而是我們站的角度不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].start |
25509.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].end |
25511.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].text |
因為您畢竟執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].start |
25511.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].end |
25513.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].text |
在野黨的監督還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].start |
25513.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].end |
25515.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].text |
非常的謹慎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].start |
25515.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].end |
25517.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].text |
當然啦 所以我們取其高啊 就是一千萬啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].start |
25517.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].end |
25519.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].text |
請主席採取啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].start |
25519.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].end |
25521.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].text |
我懇求志祥委員幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].start |
25521.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].end |
25523.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].text |
提升到一千三 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].start |
25523.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].end |
25525.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].text |
取其高啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].start |
25525.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].end |
25527.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].text |
那志祥委員看怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].start |
25528.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].end |
25530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].start |
25530.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].end |
25532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].text |
就是一千三百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].start |
25532.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].end |
25534.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].text |
跟一千三 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].start |
25534.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].end |
25536.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].text |
我一千一 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].start |
25536.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].end |
25538.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].text |
就是他的一千加您的一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].start |
25539.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].end |
25541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].text |
一千一 一千三 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].start |
25541.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].end |
25543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].text |
我這個真的 欸 周圍你自己的案是一百捏 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].start |
25543.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].end |
25545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].text |
啊你現在變三百 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].start |
25545.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].end |
25547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].text |
你會替案是動一百捏 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].start |
25547.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].end |
25549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].text |
志祥委員會為了我改一千三嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].start |
25549.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].end |
25551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].text |
他一千啊 他會為了我改一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].start |
25551.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].end |
25553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].text |
沒有啊 志祥委員沒有 他剛剛講了一千啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].start |
25553.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].end |
25555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].text |
他如果沒有為了我改一千三 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].start |
25555.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].end |
25557.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].text |
那我就認了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].start |
25556.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].end |
25558.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].text |
就沒有啊 就沒有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].start |
25559.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].end |
25561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].text |
好啦 取其中嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].start |
25561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].end |
25563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].text |
一千二好了啦 可以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].start |
25564.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].end |
25566.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].text |
那就一一五零了 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].start |
25566.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].end |
25568.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].text |
一千三跟一千一 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].start |
25568.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].end |
25570.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].text |
給周圍尊重啦 一一五零啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].start |
25570.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].end |
25572.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].text |
可以啦 一一五零啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].start |
25572.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].end |
25574.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].text |
真的 文化律師很辛苦啦 好 謝謝啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].start |
25574.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].end |
25576.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].text |
我們現場就一一五零了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].start |
25576.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].end |
25578.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].text |
但是我還是要提醒文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].start |
25578.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].end |
25580.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].text |
還有第二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].start |
25580.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].end |
25582.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].text |
該逃的逃不過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].start |
25582.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].end |
25584.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].text |
趕緊跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].start |
25584.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].end |
25586.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].text |
做一個解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].start |
25586.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].end |
25588.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].text |
你們要怎麼進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].start |
25588.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].end |
25590.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].text |
如果在這段時間你們的精進方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].start |
25590.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].end |
25592.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].text |
沒有生出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].start |
25593.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].end |
25595.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].text |
我想不是只有我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].start |
25595.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].end |
25597.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].text |
別的委員也不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].start |
25597.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].end |
25599.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].text |
輕易的放過這一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].start |
25599.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].end |
25601.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].text |
監督的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].start |
25601.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].end |
25603.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].text |
而且是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].start |
25603.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].end |
25605.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].text |
歷歷在目賠錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].start |
25605.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].end |
25607.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].text |
這麼誇張的慘賠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].start |
25607.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].end |
25609.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].text |
所以委員的堅持會在第二輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].start |
25609.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].end |
25611.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].text |
再次出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].start |
25611.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].end |
25613.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].text |
不是不報 只是時候未到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].start |
25613.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].end |
25615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].text |
所以今天我可以先退 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].start |
25615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].end |
25617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].text |
一千一百五十動結 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].start |
25617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].end |
25619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].text |
但是麻煩你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].start |
25619.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].end |
25621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].text |
第二輪之前請給予我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].start |
25621.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].end |
25623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].text |
最慎重的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].start |
25623.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].end |
25625.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].text |
跟進 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].start |
25624.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].end |
25626.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8634].text |
更新方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].start |
25626.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].end |
25628.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8635].text |
好 第54案到89案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].start |
25629.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].end |
25631.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8636].text |
改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].start |
25644.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].end |
25646.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8637].text |
還有89案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].start |
25646.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].end |
25650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8638].text |
那我們本幕合併動結 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].start |
25650.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].end |
25652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8639].text |
一千一百五十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].start |
25652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].end |
25654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8640].text |
提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].start |
25654.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].end |
25656.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8641].text |
而且要經由委員同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].start |
25656.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].end |
25658.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8642].text |
才可以使得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].start |
25658.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].end |
25660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8643].text |
現在處理第五幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].start |
25660.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].end |
25664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8644].text |
影視流行音樂發展業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].start |
25664.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].end |
25668.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8645].text |
第一節提案號是90-118 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].start |
25680.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].end |
25682.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8646].text |
好 好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].start |
25683.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].end |
25685.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8647].text |
我想跟大家拜託一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].start |
25685.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].end |
25687.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8648].text |
我們休息五分鐘好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].start |
25686.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].end |
25688.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8649].text |
不好意思 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].start |
25689.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].end |
25691.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8650].text |
我們待會從後發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].start |
26128.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].end |
26130.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8651].text |
好 現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].start |
26137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].end |
26139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8652].text |
我們從90案到118案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].start |
26139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].end |
26141.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8653].text |
從後面開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].start |
26142.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].end |
26144.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8654].text |
Nah |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].start |
26144.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].end |
26146.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8655].text |
沒關係啊 沒關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].start |
26146.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].end |
26148.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8656].text |
陳佩玉委員先 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].start |
26148.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].end |
26150.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8657].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].start |
26150.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].end |
26152.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8658].text |
這邊我只有一案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].start |
26152.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].end |
26154.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8659].text |
是125公共電視的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].start |
26154.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].end |
26156.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8660].text |
那其中第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].start |
26156.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].end |
26158.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8661].text |
關於公共電視之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].start |
26158.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].end |
26160.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8662].text |
有一些問題都已經解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].start |
26160.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].end |
26162.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].text |
但是還有一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].start |
26162.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].end |
26164.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8664].text |
就是關於小公視的自治率 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].start |
26164.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].end |
26166.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8665].text |
我們當然知道逐年提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].start |
26166.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].end |
26168.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8666].text |
我們都還是希望可以持續加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].start |
26168.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].end |
26170.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8667].text |
希望未來有越來越多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].start |
26170.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].end |
26172.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8668].text |
相關產業人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].start |
26172.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].end |
26174.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8669].text |
然後也有把這樣的節目送到小公視上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].start |
26174.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].end |
26176.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8670].text |
那所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].start |
26176.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].end |
26178.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8671].text |
一來溝通後我們可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].start |
26178.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].end |
26180.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8672].text |
125案 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].start |
26185.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].end |
26187.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8673].text |
陳佩玉委員提醒你一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].start |
26187.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].end |
26189.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8674].text |
不好意思 那你的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].start |
26189.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].end |
26191.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8675].text |
就超出範圍了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].start |
26191.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].end |
26193.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8676].text |
待會你可以這一案就不用講 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].start |
26193.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].end |
26195.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8677].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].start |
26195.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].end |
26197.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].text |
我們是90到118 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].start |
26197.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].end |
26199.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].text |
案你是125 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].start |
26200.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].end |
26202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8680].text |
就是我們一樣列入記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].start |
26202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].end |
26204.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8681].text |
但是就是先跟你講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].start |
26204.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].end |
26206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8682].text |
因為我剛以為已經處理到後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].start |
26206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].end |
26208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].text |
沒關係 沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].start |
26209.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].end |
26211.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8684].text |
好 吳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].start |
26214.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].end |
26216.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].text |
恩仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].start |
26218.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].end |
26220.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[8686].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].start |
26224.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].end |
26228.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].text |
好 我有兩個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].start |
26228.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].end |
26230.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].text |
第一個是102的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].start |
26230.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].end |
26232.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].start |
26232.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].end |
26234.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].text |
黃油票的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].start |
26234.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].end |
26236.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].text |
這樣的一個防治案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].start |
26236.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].end |
26238.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].start |
26238.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].end |
26240.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].text |
那個黃油票 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].start |
26240.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].end |
26242.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].text |
的確是讓民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].start |
26242.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].end |
26244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].text |
真的是很有感 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].start |
26244.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].end |
26246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].text |
在文化消費的一個問題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].start |
26246.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].end |
26248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].text |
我們希望文化部能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].start |
26248.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].end |
26250.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].text |
能夠做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].start |
26250.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].end |
26252.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8699].text |
比較有魄力的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].start |
26252.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].end |
26254.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8700].text |
不要只有先試 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].start |
26254.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].end |
26256.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].text |
那必須提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].start |
26256.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].end |
26258.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].text |
那個查緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].start |
26258.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].end |
26260.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].text |
平台合作還有制度的改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].start |
26260.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].end |
26262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].text |
希望都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].start |
26262.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].end |
26264.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].text |
做到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].start |
26264.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].end |
26266.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].text |
那這個案子我是先凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].start |
26266.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].end |
26268.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].text |
200萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].start |
26268.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].end |
26270.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].text |
那第二個案是108 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].start |
26270.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].end |
26272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].text |
案 那108案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].start |
26272.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].end |
26274.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].text |
的是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].start |
26274.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].end |
26276.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].text |
案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].start |
26276.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].end |
26278.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].text |
案內影視基地的一個影印 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].start |
26278.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].end |
26280.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].text |
那影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].start |
26280.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].end |
26282.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].text |
基地它最主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].start |
26282.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].end |
26284.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].text |
能夠使用能夠影印 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].start |
26284.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].end |
26286.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].text |
而且能夠帶動產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].start |
26286.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].end |
26288.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].text |
那不能變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].start |
26288.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].end |
26290.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].text |
只蓋然後不影印 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].start |
26290.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].end |
26292.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8719].text |
那這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].start |
26292.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].end |
26294.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].text |
其實我個人是相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].start |
26294.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].end |
26296.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].text |
有興趣的 我覺得這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].start |
26296.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].end |
26298.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].text |
就是屬於地方創生的一環 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].start |
26298.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].end |
26300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].text |
可以帶動地方的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].start |
26300.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].end |
26302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].text |
一個經濟的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].start |
26302.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].end |
26304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].text |
一個經濟的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].start |
26304.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].end |
26306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].text |
繁榮 這個是我看好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].start |
26306.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].end |
26308.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].text |
那也希望說能夠真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].start |
26308.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].end |
26310.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].text |
我們不要提出那個基地的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].start |
26310.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].end |
26312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].text |
招商還有制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].start |
26312.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].end |
26314.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].start |
26314.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].end |
26316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].text |
委運成本的一個報告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].start |
26316.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].end |
26318.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].start |
26318.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].end |
26320.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].text |
我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].start |
26322.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].end |
26324.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8734].text |
凍結1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].start |
26324.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].end |
26326.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].text |
那等一下先 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].start |
26326.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].end |
26328.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].text |
聽說明之後再來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].start |
26329.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].end |
26331.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].text |
1 2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].start |
26332.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].end |
26334.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].text |
好 我們下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].start |
26338.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].end |
26340.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].text |
好 那另外一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].start |
26340.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].end |
26342.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8740].text |
是Taiwan Plus的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].start |
26342.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].end |
26344.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].text |
不是不能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].start |
26344.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].end |
26346.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].text |
但是在國際傳播還要看境外 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].start |
26346.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].end |
26348.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8743].text |
境外的一個觸及 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].start |
26348.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].end |
26350.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8744].text |
還有留存跟觀眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].start |
26350.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].end |
26352.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8745].text |
觀看跟轉換 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].start |
26352.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].end |
26354.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8746].text |
而不是說只有平台的存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].start |
26354.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].end |
26356.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[8747].text |
那我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].start |
26356.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].end |
26358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8748].text |
文化部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].start |
26358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].end |
26360.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8749].text |
會同公視能夠提出一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].start |
26360.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].end |
26362.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8750].text |
很完整的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].start |
26362.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].end |
26364.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8751].text |
績效報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].start |
26364.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].end |
26366.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].text |
那在天下雜誌的一個調查裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].start |
26366.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].end |
26368.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].text |
也有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].start |
26368.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].end |
26370.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].text |
其實有2.6億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].start |
26370.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].end |
26372.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8755].text |
的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].start |
26372.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].end |
26374.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].text |
2.6億次的一個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].start |
26374.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].end |
26376.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].text |
觀看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].start |
26376.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].end |
26378.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].text |
觀看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].start |
26378.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].end |
26380.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].text |
有達到97% |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].start |
26380.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].end |
26382.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].text |
但是它的流量還有下載 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].start |
26382.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].end |
26384.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].text |
確實不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].start |
26384.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].end |
26386.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].text |
兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].start |
26386.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].end |
26388.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].text |
那在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].start |
26388.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].end |
26390.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].text |
我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].start |
26390.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].end |
26392.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].text |
這一個Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].start |
26392.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].end |
26394.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8766].text |
還是有他們努力的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].start |
26394.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].end |
26396.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].text |
那在國外 |
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事實上是前些 |
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台灣在那個國外 |
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是沒有那個聲音 |
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26402.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8771].end |
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還有編輯是沒有被 |
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26404.68 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8772].text |
外國人看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].start |
26406.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].end |
26408.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].text |
那在這個部分我們希望能夠加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].start |
26408.68 |
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26410.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].start |
26410.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].end |
26412.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].text |
這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].start |
26412.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].end |
26414.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].text |
文化部的解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8777].end |
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我們再來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].start |
26416.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].end |
26418.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].text |
那個監會 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].start |
26419.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].end |
26421.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].text |
好 下一位陳許若鮑委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].start |
26421.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].end |
26423.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8780].text |
謝謝主席 在這邊我有兩個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].start |
26423.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].end |
26425.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].text |
第一個案子是第98案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].start |
26425.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].end |
26427.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8782].text |
98案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].start |
26427.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].end |
26429.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].text |
就是關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].start |
26429.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].end |
26431.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].text |
影視音政策規劃不住與 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].start |
26431.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].end |
26433.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].text |
跨域整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].start |
26433.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].end |
26435.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].text |
我國的藝文工作者到中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].start |
26435.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].end |
26437.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].text |
發展後呢 常常必須用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].start |
26437.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].end |
26439.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].text |
配合中國政府的管制措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].start |
26439.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].end |
26441.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].text |
甚至會發表一些傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].start |
26441.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].end |
26443.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].text |
我國民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].start |
26443.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].end |
26445.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].text |
這個國家情感的這個言論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].start |
26445.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].end |
26447.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].start |
26447.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].end |
26449.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].text |
我這邊提這個案子是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].start |
26449.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].end |
26451.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].text |
文化部這邊可以對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].start |
26451.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].end |
26453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].text |
相關的文化藝術講座規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].start |
26453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].end |
26455.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].text |
進行檢討 甚至我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].start |
26455.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].end |
26457.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].text |
來研議補助申請資格的限制及 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].start |
26457.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].end |
26459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].text |
追討的機制 來為我國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].start |
26459.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].end |
26461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].text |
民眾之國家情感 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].start |
26461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].end |
26463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].text |
那文化部這邊有說明說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].start |
26463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].end |
26465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].text |
產業界不會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].start |
26465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].end |
26467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].text |
為中國市場來調整產製 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].start |
26467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].end |
26469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].text |
內容 也沒有將中國市場立為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].start |
26469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].end |
26471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].text |
是主要的收入來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].start |
26471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].end |
26473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].text |
但是它是一個會納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].start |
26473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].end |
26475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].text |
潛在回收的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].start |
26475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].end |
26477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].text |
我國影視內容在中國發行及宣傳上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].start |
26477.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].end |
26479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].text |
就只能由中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].start |
26479.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].end |
26481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].text |
公司的主導 我們很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].start |
26481.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].end |
26483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].text |
介入銷售方向的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].start |
26483.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].end |
26485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].text |
我也理解說這是產業難以掌握的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].start |
26485.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].end |
26487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].text |
因素 但是這邊還是要提醒文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].start |
26487.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].end |
26489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].text |
就是說我們文化部補助的影視內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].start |
26489.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].end |
26491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].text |
在中國宣傳都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].start |
26491.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].end |
26493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].text |
以矮化我國的方式來進行的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].start |
26493.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].end |
26495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].text |
恐怕會對國際間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].start |
26495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].end |
26497.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].text |
傳遞錯誤的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].start |
26497.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].end |
26499.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].text |
例如我們台灣出產的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].start |
26499.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].end |
26501.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].text |
我們未來到那邊去上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].start |
26501.58 |
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26503.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].text |
上市結果它會變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].start |
26503.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].end |
26505.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].text |
中國台北 中國台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].start |
26505.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].end |
26507.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].text |
這樣子在國際間 我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].start |
26507.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].end |
26509.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].text |
我們的國際間的這個訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].start |
26509.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].end |
26511.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].text |
也會是錯誤的 也會讓我們的民眾質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].start |
26511.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].end |
26513.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].text |
預算的使用是否合適 |
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26513.58 |
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26515.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].text |
所以我希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].start |
26515.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].end |
26517.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].text |
文化部除了持續辦理拓展 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].start |
26517.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].end |
26519.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].text |
國際市場業務之外 |
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26519.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].end |
26521.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].text |
我們也去研議有不當言論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].start |
26521.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].end |
26523.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].text |
這個檢討機制 |
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26523.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].end |
26525.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].text |
那第114案的部分呢 |
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26526.3 |
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26528.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].text |
是關於發展國際數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].start |
26528.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].end |
26530.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].text |
或相關的業務 |
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26530.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].end |
26532.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].text |
近年旅遊傳出國際影視音平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].start |
26532.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].end |
26534.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].text |
售購影視音公司的這個消息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].start |
26534.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[8836].text |
顯見 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8837].end |
26538.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8837].text |
在國際間不管是影視音平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].start |
26538.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].end |
26540.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].text |
或是影視音公司都是有合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].start |
26540.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].end |
26542.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].text |
壯大的這個趨勢 |
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26542.3 |
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26544.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].text |
所以我提這個案子也是希望說 |
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26544.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].end |
26546.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].text |
文化部這邊應該要因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].start |
26546.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].end |
26548.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].text |
國際的這個影視音產業的變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].start |
26548.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].end |
26552.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].text |
那滾動式的檢討我國影視音推廣的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].start |
26552.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].end |
26554.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].text |
文化部這邊有說明說 |
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26554.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].end |
26556.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].text |
黑潮計畫大量投入本土的這個內容產製 |
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26556.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].end |
26558.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].text |
也有透過文策院 |
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26558.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].end |
26560.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].text |
跟國內的電信合作 |
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26560.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].end |
26562.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].text |
組建這個影視基金 |
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26562.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].end |
26564.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].text |
來激起壯大影視的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].start |
26564.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].end |
26566.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8850].text |
那在國際市場的開發部分呢 |
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26566.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8851].end |
26568.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8851].text |
希望文化部也要 |
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26568.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].end |
26570.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8852].text |
應該持續透過各種管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].start |
26570.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].end |
26572.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8853].text |
來協助影視產業 |
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26572.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8854].end |
26574.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8854].text |
銷售我們本土優良的這個影視作品 |
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26574.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8855].end |
26576.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8855].text |
那等一下請文化部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].start |
26576.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].end |
26578.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8856].text |
再說明一下 |
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26578.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8857].end |
26580.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8857].text |
目前國際市場你們開發的情形 |
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26580.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].end |
26582.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8858].text |
以上 |
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26584.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8859].end |
26586.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8859].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].start |
26585.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].end |
26587.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8860].text |
這個部分 |
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26587.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8861].end |
26589.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8861].text |
我是100跟106 |
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26589.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].end |
26591.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8862].text |
那第100案的部分 |
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26591.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].end |
26593.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8863].text |
文化部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8864].start |
26593.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8864].end |
26595.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8864].text |
已經有來跟我說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].start |
26595.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].end |
26597.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8865].text |
就是針對這個黃牛的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8866].start |
26597.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8866].end |
26599.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8866].text |
案件的改善 |
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26599.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8867].end |
26601.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8867].text |
那已經有跟這個 |
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26601.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].end |
26603.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8868].text |
地方政府還有內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].start |
26603.19 |
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26605.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8869].text |
還有售票的一些平台建立一些合作的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].start |
26605.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].end |
26607.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8870].text |
那我想可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].start |
26607.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].end |
26609.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8871].text |
這個部分還要再更積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].start |
26609.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].end |
26611.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8872].text |
包含就是 |
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26611.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].end |
26613.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8873].text |
防治的一些措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].start |
26613.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].end |
26615.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8874].text |
還有執行的一個效果 |
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26615.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].end |
26617.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8875].text |
那來保障這個民眾公平買票 |
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26617.8 |
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的權益還有整個 |
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26619.8 |
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26621.8 |
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所有的市場的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].start |
26621.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].end |
26623.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8878].text |
那這個部分我沒有堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].start |
26623.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8879].end |
26625.8 |
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本來是凍結80萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].start |
26625.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].end |
26627.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8880].text |
我可以改組決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].start |
26627.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8881].end |
26631.38 |
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好那第106的部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].start |
26631.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].end |
26633.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8882].text |
籌建影視廳中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].start |
26633.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].end |
26635.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8883].text |
二期的一個場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].start |
26635.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].end |
26637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8884].text |
那原本好像這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].start |
26637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].end |
26639.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8885].text |
其實有稍微的落後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].start |
26639.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].end |
26641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8886].text |
就是這樣子的一個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].start |
26641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].end |
26643.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8887].text |
那不過文化部也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].start |
26643.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].end |
26645.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8888].text |
來提到他們的一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].start |
26645.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].end |
26647.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8889].text |
那核定之後會加速這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].start |
26647.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].end |
26649.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8890].text |
推動的一些工程 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].start |
26649.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].end |
26651.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8891].text |
那我想這個二期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].start |
26651.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].end |
26653.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8892].text |
場館的修正計畫跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].start |
26653.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].end |
26655.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8893].text |
核定其實還蠻重要的因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].start |
26655.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].end |
26657.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8894].text |
還是有一些包含我們要確保這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].start |
26657.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].end |
26659.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8895].text |
典藏的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].start |
26659.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].end |
26661.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8896].text |
還有就是相關的一個設施 |
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26661.38 |
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26663.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8897].text |
那也希望這個部分還是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].start |
26663.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].end |
26665.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8898].text |
積極希望能夠如期的完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].start |
26665.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].end |
26667.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8899].text |
好那這個部分我也可以 |
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26667.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].end |
26669.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8900].text |
改組決議喔好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].start |
26671.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].end |
26673.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8901].text |
好我是藥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].start |
26676.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].end |
26678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8902].text |
好謝謝主席本幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].start |
26678.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].end |
26680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8903].text |
有兩案我先講103案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].start |
26680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].end |
26682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8904].text |
是接著剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].start |
26682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].end |
26684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8905].text |
有幾位委員關心黃牛票 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].start |
26684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].end |
26686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8906].text |
的查緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].start |
26686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].end |
26688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8907].text |
那我是非常具體的提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].start |
26688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].end |
26690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].text |
我們在文創 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].start |
26690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].end |
26692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8909].text |
就是我們的文創法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].start |
26692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].end |
26694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].text |
文化創意產業發展法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].start |
26694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].end |
26696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].text |
修法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].start |
26696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8912].end |
26698.04 |
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因為有法律的授權我們抓 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].start |
26698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8913].end |
26700.04 |
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黃牛檢舉黃牛就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].start |
26700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].end |
26702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].text |
底氣有法律的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].start |
26702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].end |
26704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].text |
所以檢舉案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].start |
26704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].end |
26706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].text |
的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].start |
26706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].end |
26708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8917].text |
但是對應於調查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].start |
26708.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].end |
26710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].text |
建樹跟實質的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].start |
26710.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].end |
26712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8919].text |
地方政府的採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].start |
26712.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].end |
26714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].text |
的建樹卻是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].start |
26714.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].end |
26716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].text |
大幅的就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].start |
26716.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].end |
26718.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].text |
比例上是偏低啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].start |
26718.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].end |
26720.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8923].text |
所以我去了解了問題的癥結 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].start |
26720.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].end |
26722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8924].text |
又是一個跨部會的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].start |
26722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].end |
26724.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].text |
又是一個跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].start |
26724.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].end |
26726.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8926].text |
需要去協調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].start |
26726.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].end |
26728.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].text |
我就說文化會報是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].start |
26728.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].end |
26730.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].text |
報告部長喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].start |
26730.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].end |
26732.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].text |
我看到的困難當中是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].start |
26732.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].end |
26734.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].text |
現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].start |
26734.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].end |
26736.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].text |
即便檢舉黃牛案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].start |
26736.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].end |
26738.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].text |
但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].start |
26738.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].end |
26740.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].text |
需要去追查那個帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].start |
26740.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].end |
26742.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].text |
那追查帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].start |
26742.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].end |
26744.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].text |
的時候金管會卻 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].start |
26744.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].end |
26746.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].text |
不停我們啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].start |
26746.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].end |
26748.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].text |
金管會他用銀行法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].start |
26748.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].end |
26750.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].text |
第48條第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].start |
26750.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].end |
26752.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].text |
的客戶保密的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].start |
26752.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].end |
26754.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].text |
義務來阻 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].start |
26754.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].end |
26756.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].text |
卻於我們文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].start |
26756.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].end |
26758.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].text |
部門可以去調閱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].start |
26758.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].end |
26760.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].text |
查緝這個帳號持有人 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].start |
26760.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].end |
26762.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].text |
的資訊因為他說要保 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].start |
26762.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].end |
26764.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].text |
賬個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[8946].start |
26764.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8946].end |
26766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8946].text |
那現在在銀行法48條第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8947].start |
26766.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8947].end |
26768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8947].text |
裡頭他還有金管會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8948].start |
26768.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8948].end |
26770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8948].text |
的一個函文他是限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8949].start |
26770.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8949].end |
26772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8949].text |
於司法監察稅務 |
| transcript.whisperx[8950].start |
26772.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8950].end |
26774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8950].text |
等機關有調查權 |
| transcript.whisperx[8951].start |
26774.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8951].end |
26776.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8951].text |
我覺得這就是跨部會的協調啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8952].start |
26776.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8952].end |
26778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8952].text |
我們把對於查緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8953].start |
26778.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8953].end |
26780.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8953].text |
黃牛也作為一個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8954].start |
26780.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8954].end |
26782.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8954].text |
調查權需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8955].start |
26782.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8955].end |
26784.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8955].text |
伸張的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8956].start |
26784.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8956].end |
26786.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8956].text |
我們來跟金管會溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8957].start |
26786.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8957].end |
26788.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8957].text |
有何不可否則每當 |
| transcript.whisperx[8958].start |
26788.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8958].end |
26790.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8958].text |
地方政府或是警政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[8959].start |
26790.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8959].end |
26792.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8959].text |
要幫忙查查的時候就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8960].start |
26792.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8960].end |
26794.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8960].text |
卡在金管會這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8961].start |
26794.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8961].end |
26796.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8961].text |
其實他還不是到法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[8962].start |
26796.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8962].end |
26798.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8962].text |
層級他其實是一個函文 |
| transcript.whisperx[8963].start |
26798.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8963].end |
26800.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8963].text |
而已我覺得一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8964].start |
26800.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8964].end |
26802.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8964].text |
硬起來否則我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8965].start |
26802.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8965].end |
26804.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8965].text |
有了法律的授權執法沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8966].start |
26804.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8966].end |
26806.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8966].text |
伸張居然是卡在跨部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8967].start |
26806.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8967].end |
26808.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8967].text |
的溝通我覺得這個讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[8968].start |
26808.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8968].end |
26810.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8968].text |
黃牛犯他們持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].start |
26810.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].end |
26812.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].text |
猖狂我想這個大家都不樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].start |
26812.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].end |
26814.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].text |
所以我的案是第103 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].start |
26814.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].end |
26816.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].text |
案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].start |
26815.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].end |
26817.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].text |
另外第99案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8973].start |
26817.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8973].end |
26819.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8973].text |
就是在影視音產業的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].start |
26819.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].end |
26821.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].text |
在中國推出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].start |
26821.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].end |
26823.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].text |
會台政策之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].start |
26823.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].end |
26825.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].text |
很多影視界的人都站出來講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].start |
26825.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].end |
26827.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].text |
他們往中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].start |
26827.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].end |
26829.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].text |
套養殺之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].start |
26829.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].end |
26831.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].text |
先給甜頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].start |
26831.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].end |
26833.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].text |
然後引你上鉤 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].start |
26833.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].end |
26835.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].text |
然後榨乾你吃乾抹淨用完就丟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].start |
26835.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].end |
26837.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].text |
已經很多人受害了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].start |
26837.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].end |
26839.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].text |
所以文化部能做什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].start |
26839.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].end |
26841.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].text |
我們不能永遠只是說反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].start |
26841.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].end |
26843.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].text |
就是那種道德勸說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].start |
26843.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].end |
26845.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].text |
這種喊話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].start |
26845.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].end |
26847.57 |
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不要進入中國市場 |
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26847.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].end |
26849.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].text |
這種自我審查不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].start |
26849.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].end |
26851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].text |
除了這些之外更具體 |
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26851.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].end |
26853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].text |
的建立起一個法律支援的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].start |
26853.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].end |
26855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].text |
系統幫助我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].start |
26855.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].end |
26857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].text |
這些可能承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].start |
26857.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].end |
26859.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].text |
高風險當然前端預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].start |
26859.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].end |
26861.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].text |
提醒大家有這個風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].start |
26861.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].end |
26863.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].text |
的意識能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].start |
26863.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].end |
26865.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].text |
不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].start |
26864.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].end |
26866.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].text |
就不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].start |
26866.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].end |
26868.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].text |
如果要去你要搞清楚跟你合作方 |
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26868.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].end |
26870.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].text |
到底是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].start |
26870.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].end |
26872.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].text |
可信賴的合作方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].start |
26872.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].end |
26874.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].text |
所以第一個預防機制第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].start |
26874.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].end |
26876.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].text |
對於已經發生權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].start |
26876.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].end |
26878.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].text |
受損的這些影視音的創造者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].start |
26878.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].end |
26880.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].text |
如何創作者如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].start |
26880.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].end |
26882.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].text |
給予必要的法律支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].start |
26883.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].end |
26885.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].text |
那當然回到剛剛源頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].start |
26885.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].end |
26887.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].text |
剛剛文策有很多委員在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].start |
26887.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].end |
26889.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].text |
好像投入了一些投融資 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].start |
26889.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].end |
26891.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].text |
的補助好像國片 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].start |
26891.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].end |
26893.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].text |
大家可能沒有賺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].start |
26893.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].end |
26895.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].text |
我還是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].start |
26895.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].end |
26897.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].text |
台灣的市場確實有它 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].start |
26897.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].end |
26899.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].text |
先天上的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].start |
26899.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].end |
26901.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].text |
我一向不再以川普賺錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].start |
26901.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].end |
26903.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].text |
來看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].start |
26903.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].end |
26905.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].text |
投資的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].start |
26905.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].end |
26907.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].text |
大家觀點不同但是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].start |
26907.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].end |
26909.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].text |
還是從一個很深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].start |
26909.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].end |
26911.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].text |
的從中國一再的放 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].start |
26911.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].end |
26913.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].text |
一台措施就是它知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].start |
26913.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].end |
26915.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].text |
很多人想要資金的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].start |
26915.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].end |
26917.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].text |
扶治 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].start |
26916.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].end |
26920.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].text |
那台灣自己對於本土影視音的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].start |
26920.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].end |
26922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].text |
我覺得還是真的做得不夠啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].start |
26922.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].end |
26924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].text |
這是很沉痛的一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].start |
26924.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].end |
26926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].text |
我也知道很難解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].start |
26926.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].end |
26928.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].text |
但請部長再 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].start |
26928.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].end |
26930.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].text |
責怪一下我們的影視相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].start |
26930.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].end |
26932.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].text |
跨部會的幫忙包括跟陸委會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].start |
26932.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].end |
26934.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].text |
來協同這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].start |
26935.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].end |
26937.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].text |
承擔風險的影視音創作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].start |
26937.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].end |
26939.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].text |
我覺得文化部責無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].start |
26939.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].end |
26941.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].text |
所以我的兩個案子等一下請你們來回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].start |
26946.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].end |
26948.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].text |
各位記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].start |
26948.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].end |
26950.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].start |
26950.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].end |
26952.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].text |
本席在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].start |
26952.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].end |
26954.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].text |
有一共有兩個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].start |
26954.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].end |
26956.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].text |
第94案是關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].start |
26956.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].end |
26958.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].text |
AI演員資料庫的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].start |
26958.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].end |
26960.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].text |
本席在5月7號的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].start |
26960.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].end |
26962.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].text |
的時候有向部長提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].start |
26962.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].end |
26964.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].text |
在AI影視化的浪潮之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].start |
26964.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].end |
26966.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].text |
我們結合AI資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].start |
26966.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].end |
26968.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].text |
的建立將必無可避 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].start |
26968.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].end |
26970.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].text |
既然無法全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].start |
26970.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].end |
26972.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].text |
禁止我們就應該要避免 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].start |
26972.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].end |
26974.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].text |
藝文工作者在不平等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].start |
26974.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].end |
26976.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].text |
的條件之下被迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].start |
26976.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].end |
26978.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].text |
簽訂不平等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].start |
26978.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].end |
26980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].text |
臉啊 聲音啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].start |
26980.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].end |
26982.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].text |
數位分身啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].start |
26982.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].end |
26984.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].text |
等等的這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].start |
26984.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].end |
26986.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].text |
不平等的授權合約 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].start |
26986.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].end |
26988.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].text |
政府其實就要建立一套合法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].start |
26988.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].end |
26990.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].text |
授權而且可追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].start |
26990.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].end |
26992.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].text |
可分任可撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].start |
26992.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].end |
26994.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].text |
可集體談判的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].start |
26994.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].end |
26996.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].text |
來保障藝文工作者的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].start |
26996.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].end |
26998.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].text |
因此當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].start |
26998.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].end |
27000.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].text |
5月7號的時候本席在當場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].start |
27000.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].end |
27002.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].text |
有提出要求文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].start |
27002.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].end |
27004.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].text |
要趕快主動積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].start |
27004.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].end |
27006.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].text |
邀集演藝人員公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].start |
27006.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].end |
27008.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].text |
配音人員公會等等相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].start |
27008.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].end |
27010.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].text |
團體來開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].start |
27010.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].end |
27012.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].text |
其實我們當時提出算很早 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].start |
27012.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].end |
27014.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].text |
我們看到像中國大陸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].start |
27014.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].end |
27016.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].text |
現在有非常多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].start |
27016.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].end |
27018.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].text |
這種道用啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].start |
27018.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].end |
27020.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].text |
用低價的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].start |
27020.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].end |
27022.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].text |
來使用人的臉或 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].start |
27022.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].end |
27024.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].text |
聲音有非常多的演藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].start |
27024.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].end |
27026.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].text |
人員本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].start |
27026.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].end |
27028.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].text |
有非常多的邀約 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].start |
27028.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].end |
27030.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].text |
現在沒有工作了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].start |
27030.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].end |
27032.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].text |
台灣我們是一個民主的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].start |
27032.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].end |
27034.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].text |
而且我們很科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].start |
27034.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].end |
27036.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].text |
我們怎麼樣來把這件事情做得更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].start |
27036.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].end |
27038.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].text |
這個是我們有動機的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].start |
27038.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].end |
27040.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].text |
也是大家一致的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].start |
27040.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].end |
27042.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].text |
所以當時我們就要求文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].start |
27042.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].end |
27044.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].text |
去做一個這樣的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].start |
27045.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].end |
27047.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].text |
來瞭解AI影視音產業的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].start |
27047.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].end |
27049.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].text |
和他們共同研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].start |
27049.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].end |
27051.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].text |
我們到底怎麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].start |
27051.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].end |
27053.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].text |
5月7號我們真的是非常非常早 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].start |
27053.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].end |
27055.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].text |
那我之所以要做得離 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].start |
27055.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].end |
27057.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].text |
部長比較近 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].start |
27057.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].end |
27059.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].text |
我就是要來感謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].start |
27059.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].end |
27061.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].text |
就是文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].start |
27061.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].end |
27063.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].text |
我們要給予肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].start |
27063.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].end |
27065.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].text |
就是說特別感謝李遠部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].start |
27065.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].end |
27067.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].text |
本席當時所提出的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].start |
27067.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].end |
27069.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].text |
部長不僅當場允諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].start |
27069.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].end |
27071.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].text |
而且已經逐步 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].start |
27071.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].end |
27073.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].text |
在實踐了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].start |
27073.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].end |
27075.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].text |
在115年的6月4號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].start |
27075.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].end |
27077.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].text |
邀集影視產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].start |
27077.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].end |
27079.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].text |
製作AI技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].start |
27079.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].end |
27081.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].text |
經紀公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].start |
27081.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].end |
27083.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].text |
台北市電影電視演藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].start |
27083.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].end |
27085.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].text |
職業工會台北市配音 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].start |
27085.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].end |
27087.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].text |
人員職業工會以及法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].start |
27087.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].end |
27089.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].text |
專家召開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].start |
27089.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].end |
27091.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].text |
我相信是非常有歷史性意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].start |
27091.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].end |
27093.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].text |
的一個諮詢會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].start |
27093.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].end |
27095.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].text |
就法律定位與個案授權的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].start |
27095.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].end |
27097.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].text |
勞資雙方平衡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].start |
27097.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].end |
27099.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].text |
期約訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].start |
27099.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].end |
27101.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].text |
以及台灣影視音資料庫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].start |
27101.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].end |
27103.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].text |
還有主權AI建置的提議等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].start |
27103.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].end |
27105.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].text |
多個面向來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].start |
27105.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].end |
27107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].text |
討論我們演藝人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].start |
27107.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].end |
27109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].text |
數位分身的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].start |
27109.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].end |
27111.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].text |
授權以及其相關權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].start |
27111.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].end |
27113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].text |
還有他的人權的一些議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].start |
27113.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].end |
27115.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].text |
那我想未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].start |
27115.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].end |
27117.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].text |
或許他會成為另外一種產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].start |
27117.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].end |
27119.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].text |
也是我們軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].start |
27119.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].end |
27121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].text |
照三運動說不定也是很重要的一環 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].start |
27121.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].end |
27123.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].text |
可能有AI分身 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].start |
27123.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].end |
27125.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].text |
有AI經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].start |
27125.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].end |
27127.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].text |
甚至有AI演藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].start |
27127.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].end |
27129.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].text |
那怎麼樣在這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].start |
27129.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].end |
27131.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].text |
讓我們演藝人員反而可以得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].start |
27131.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].end |
27133.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].text |
更大的未來的成長空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].start |
27133.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].end |
27135.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].text |
我相信我們做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].start |
27135.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].end |
27137.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].text |
我相信文化部也會希望做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].start |
27137.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].end |
27139.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].start |
27139.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].end |
27141.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].text |
在這個部會的這個案子呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].start |
27141.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].end |
27143.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].text |
這個部分的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].start |
27143.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].end |
27145.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].text |
也希望未來持續文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].start |
27145.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].end |
27147.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].text |
可以參採藝文工作者提出的各項建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].start |
27147.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].end |
27149.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].text |
那本席也將持續追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].start |
27149.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].end |
27151.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].text |
後續辦理情形跟這個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].start |
27151.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].end |
27153.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].text |
所以在第九十四案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].start |
27153.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].end |
27155.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].text |
預算的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].start |
27155.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].end |
27157.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].text |
由於文化部已經主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].start |
27157.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].end |
27159.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].text |
以及與藝文工作者展開對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].start |
27159.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].end |
27161.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].text |
而且是在這麼有意義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].start |
27161.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].end |
27163.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].text |
一個日子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].start |
27163.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].end |
27165.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].text |
六月四號這樣的一個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].start |
27165.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].end |
27167.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].text |
我相信啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].start |
27167.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].end |
27169.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].text |
就是一個非常非常重要的展開 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].start |
27169.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].end |
27171.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].text |
有明確的辦理進度我們已經理解到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].start |
27171.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].end |
27173.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].text |
那也發文讓我們辦公室有了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].start |
27173.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].end |
27175.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].text |
所以本席同意第九十四案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].start |
27175.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].end |
27177.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].text |
就改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].start |
27177.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].end |
27179.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].text |
那另外還有一個很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].start |
27179.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].end |
27181.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].text |
剛剛也有許多委員提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].start |
27181.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].end |
27183.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].text |
是本席有提第104案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].start |
27183.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].end |
27185.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].text |
相關的主題呢就是關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].start |
27185.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].end |
27187.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].text |
都想防治黃牛的議題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].start |
27187.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].end |
27189.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].text |
是一個道與魔之爭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].start |
27189.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].end |
27191.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].text |
事實上魔高一尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].start |
27191.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].end |
27193.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].text |
道一定要高一丈 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].start |
27193.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].end |
27195.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].text |
那我們藝文表演的票券 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].start |
27195.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].end |
27197.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].text |
的這個實名制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].start |
27197.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].end |
27199.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].text |
相關的議題真的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].start |
27199.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].end |
27201.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].text |
那目前文化部的補助方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].start |
27201.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].end |
27203.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].text |
是針對主辦單位和售票平台的業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].start |
27203.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].end |
27205.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].text |
給予辦理票券 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].start |
27205.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].end |
27207.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].text |
實名制所支出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].start |
27207.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].end |
27209.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].text |
臨時人力費 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].start |
27209.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].end |
27211.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].text |
設備租借費 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].start |
27211.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].end |
27213.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].text |
以及場地的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].start |
27213.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].end |
27215.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].text |
還有這個所謂的人的認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].start |
27215.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].end |
27217.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].text |
之類的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].start |
27217.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].end |
27219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].text |
但本席也希望能夠在此 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].start |
27219.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].end |
27221.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].text |
提醒文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].start |
27221.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].end |
27223.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].text |
黃牛票的防治 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].start |
27223.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].end |
27225.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].text |
其實不是只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].start |
27225.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].end |
27227.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].text |
查臉查人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].start |
27227.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].end |
27229.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].text |
看證件 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].start |
27229.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].end |
27231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].text |
抱歉黃牛啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].start |
27231.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].end |
27233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].text |
其實是在用科學的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].start |
27233.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].end |
27235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].text |
在破壞我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].start |
27235.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].end |
27237.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].text |
藝文產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].start |
27238.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].end |
27240.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].text |
那他用他的魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].start |
27240.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].end |
27242.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].text |
我們的魔法也不能輸啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].start |
27242.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].end |
27244.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].text |
不能他用電燈我們用蠟燭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].start |
27244.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].end |
27246.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].text |
那就不對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].start |
27246.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].end |
27248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].text |
事實上黃牛的這種做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].start |
27248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].end |
27250.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].text |
我們如果只用抓的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].start |
27250.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].end |
27252.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].text |
會抓不勝抓 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].start |
27252.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].end |
27254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].text |
那單一的實體啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].start |
27254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].end |
27256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].text |
是用這個黃牛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].start |
27256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].end |
27258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].text |
用一台電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].start |
27258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].end |
27260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].text |
他去創建數千數萬個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].start |
27260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].end |
27262.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].text |
虛假的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].start |
27262.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].end |
27264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].text |
或者AI機器人的帳號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].start |
27264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].end |
27266.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].text |
某種程度啦算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].start |
27266.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].end |
27268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].text |
惡意的去破壞或者入侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].start |
27268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].end |
27270.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].text |
售票的系統去壟斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].start |
27270.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].end |
27272.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].text |
多數的票源 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].start |
27272.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].end |
27274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].text |
那因此文化部所制定的實名制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].start |
27274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].end |
27276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].text |
的補助要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].start |
27276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].end |
27278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].text |
如果我們只是在講個資 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].start |
27278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].end |
27280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].text |
在查身份我覺得可能會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].start |
27280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].end |
27282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].text |
撞到一堵牆啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].start |
27282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].end |
27284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].text |
不管是個資的保護也好等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].start |
27284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].end |
27286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].text |
那這條路當然我們也可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].start |
27286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].end |
27288.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].text |
不要放棄找犯法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].start |
27288.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].end |
27290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].text |
但是另外一條路我們真的可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].start |
27290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].end |
27292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].text |
就是跟本土 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].start |
27292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].end |
27294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].text |
廠商的科技研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].start |
27294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].end |
27296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].text |
以及外國廠商的科技技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].start |
27296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].end |
27298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].text |
來合作一併納入這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].start |
27298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].end |
27300.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].text |
補助跟研議的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].start |
27300.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].end |
27302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].text |
可能才能夠真正的從源頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].start |
27302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].end |
27304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].text |
去杜絕黃牛啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].start |
27304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].end |
27306.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].text |
用科技的手段去壟斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].start |
27306.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].end |
27308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].text |
票源的事件喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].start |
27308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].end |
27310.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].text |
那我舉個例子喔目前國外已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].start |
27310.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].end |
27312.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].text |
廠商開發出像World ID |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].start |
27312.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].end |
27314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].text |
這種技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].start |
27314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].end |
27316.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].text |
它不僅能夠在保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].start |
27316.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].end |
27318.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].text |
個資不流出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].start |
27318.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].end |
27320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].text |
個人隱私的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].start |
27320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].end |
27322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].text |
用zero knowledge的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].start |
27322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].end |
27324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].text |
零知識去證明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].start |
27324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].end |
27326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].text |
購票者是一個人類 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].start |
27326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].end |
27328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].text |
而且是一個單一的人類 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].start |
27328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].end |
27330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].text |
他是唯一的人類 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].start |
27330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].end |
27332.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].text |
以確保每位真正的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].start |
27332.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].end |
27334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].text |
一位只能獲得一張票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].start |
27334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].end |
27336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].text |
當然你系統上可以設定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].start |
27336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].end |
27338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].text |
那在AI的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].start |
27338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].end |
27340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].text |
能夠以科技技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].start |
27340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].end |
27342.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].text |
去可靠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].start |
27342.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].end |
27344.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].text |
不侵犯隱私的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].start |
27344.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].end |
27346.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].text |
去證明一個賬號的背後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].start |
27346.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].end |
27348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].text |
是真實而且唯一的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].start |
27348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].end |
27350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].text |
已經做得到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].start |
27350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].end |
27352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].text |
以前做不到現在已經做得到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].start |
27352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].end |
27354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].text |
而且成熟了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].start |
27354.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].end |
27356.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].text |
那未來啊我們還要挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].start |
27356.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].end |
27358.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].text |
就用同樣類似的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].start |
27358.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].end |
27360.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].text |
去辨別出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].start |
27360.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].end |
27362.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].text |
人類授權的AI |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].start |
27362.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].end |
27364.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].text |
人類授權的小龍蝦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].start |
27364.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].end |
27366.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].text |
因為未來現在黃牛用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].start |
27366.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].end |
27368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].text |
機器人在搶票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].start |
27368.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].end |
27370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].text |
可是未來我們每一個人都有合法的代理人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].start |
27370.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].end |
27372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].text |
難道我用AI去搶票 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].start |
27372.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].end |
27374.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].text |
我也要被擋嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].start |
27374.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].end |
27376.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].text |
我也要被抓嗎我也要被罰嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].start |
27376.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].end |
27378.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].text |
所以這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].start |
27378.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].end |
27380.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].text |
盜摩之間的相鬥 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].start |
27380.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].end |
27382.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].text |
對方用的是科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].start |
27382.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].end |
27384.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].text |
不能只用傳統的方式去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].start |
27384.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].end |
27386.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].text |
所以數位平台科學的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].start |
27386.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].end |
27388.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].text |
需要文化部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].start |
27388.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].end |
27390.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].text |
努力跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].start |
27390.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].end |
27392.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].text |
那所以本席透過預算提案的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].start |
27392.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].end |
27394.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].text |
才是希望能夠來提醒文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].start |
27394.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].end |
27396.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].text |
除了補助主辦單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].start |
27396.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].end |
27398.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].text |
和售票平台以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].start |
27398.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].end |
27400.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].text |
也應該研議編列預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].start |
27400.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].end |
27402.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].text |
去補助本土廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].start |
27402.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].end |
27404.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].text |
對於實名制科技的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].start |
27404.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].end |
27406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].text |
研發應用以及平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].start |
27406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].end |
27408.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].text |
業者和外國廠商 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].start |
27408.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].end |
27410.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].text |
已經應用起來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].start |
27410.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].end |
27412.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].text |
實名制科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].start |
27412.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].end |
27414.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].text |
或者人類驗證 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].start |
27414.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].end |
27416.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].text |
真人驗證的科技的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].start |
27416.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].end |
27418.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].text |
相關去做合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].start |
27418.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].end |
27420.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].text |
那整體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].start |
27420.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].end |
27422.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].text |
因為這個議題真的太重要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].start |
27422.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].end |
27424.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].text |
但是我想這個科技的解決方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].start |
27424.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].end |
27426.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].text |
還是希望能夠在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].start |
27426.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].end |
27428.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].text |
這裡提一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].start |
27428.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].end |
27430.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].text |
但是預算的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].start |
27430.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].end |
27432.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].text |
我想我們也有過交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].start |
27432.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].end |
27434.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].text |
那也希望文化部能夠參採 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].start |
27434.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].end |
27436.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].text |
那本席不堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].start |
27436.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].end |
27438.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].text |
同意將本案改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].start |
27438.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].end |
27440.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].start |
27443.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].end |
27445.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].text |
好 再來羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].start |
27445.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].end |
27447.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].text |
我的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].start |
27447.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].end |
27449.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].text |
110案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].start |
27449.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].end |
27451.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].text |
TimePlus |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].start |
27451.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].end |
27453.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].text |
TimePlus發展國際數位傳播的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].start |
27453.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].end |
27455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].text |
預算規模是相當宏大 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].start |
27455.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].end |
27457.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].text |
但是很抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].start |
27457.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].end |
27459.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].text |
政策收效甚微 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].start |
27459.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].end |
27461.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].text |
引發各式的負面事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].start |
27461.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].end |
27463.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].text |
連招審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].start |
27463.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].end |
27465.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].text |
監察院 立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].start |
27465.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].end |
27467.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].text |
立法院預算中心指正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].start |
27467.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].end |
27469.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].text |
連媒體都爆了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].start |
27469.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].end |
27471.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].text |
有許多的問題揭露出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].start |
27471.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].end |
27473.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].text |
那文化部從110年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].start |
27473.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].end |
27475.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].text |
到113年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].start |
27475.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].end |
27477.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].text |
58億預算執行之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].start |
27477.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].end |
27479.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].text |
不但沒有積極改正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].start |
27479.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].end |
27481.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].text |
的有效作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].start |
27481.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].end |
27483.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].text |
那續編並執行114到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].start |
27483.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].end |
27485.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].text |
117年預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].start |
27485.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].end |
27487.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].text |
40億的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].start |
27487.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].end |
27489.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].text |
仍然呈現自動改動 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].start |
27489.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].end |
27491.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].text |
自行改動績效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].start |
27491.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].end |
27493.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].text |
檢討問題不明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].start |
27493.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].end |
27495.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].text |
定位目標混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].start |
27495.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].end |
27497.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].text |
這些政策執行不利的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].start |
27497.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].end |
27499.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].text |
包括沒有看到各種問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].start |
27499.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].end |
27501.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].text |
的自我介入檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].start |
27501.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].end |
27503.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].text |
改善的作為跟平和 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].start |
27503.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].end |
27505.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].text |
而且到底我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].start |
27505.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].end |
27507.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].text |
Taiwan Plus它是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].start |
27507.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].end |
27509.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].text |
承擔公共功能還是承擔對外宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].start |
27509.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].end |
27511.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].text |
如果是要能向國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].start |
27511.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].end |
27513.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].text |
傳達台灣觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].start |
27513.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].end |
27515.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].text |
那台灣觀點又是誰來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].start |
27515.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].end |
27517.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].text |
Taiwan Plus執行到現在有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].start |
27517.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].end |
27519.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].text |
幾個問題第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].start |
27519.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].end |
27521.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].text |
Taiwan Plus執行三年後審計部就 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].start |
27521.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].end |
27523.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].text |
報告觀看來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].start |
27523.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].end |
27525.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].text |
緊急中亞洲與美洲 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].start |
27525.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].end |
27527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].text |
APP下載人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].start |
27527.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].end |
27529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].text |
遠低於計畫編列設定目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].start |
27529.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].end |
27531.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].text |
那監察院的調查指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].start |
27531.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].end |
27533.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].text |
Taiwan Plus人力管控 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].start |
27533.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].end |
27535.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].text |
不佳離職率高 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].start |
27535.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].end |
27537.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].text |
邊踩失衡對於國內 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].start |
27537.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].end |
27539.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].text |
及國際新聞之選題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].start |
27539.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].end |
27541.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].text |
標準差異顯著 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].start |
27541.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].end |
27543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].text |
也曾發生新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].start |
27543.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].end |
27545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].text |
焦點失準的情形影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].start |
27545.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].end |
27547.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].text |
新聞的公信力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].start |
27547.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].end |
27549.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].text |
而監察院調查每天早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].start |
27549.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].end |
27551.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].text |
選稿主持會議的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].start |
27551.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].end |
27553.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].text |
住在紐西蘭的顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].start |
27553.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].end |
27555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].text |
他沒有來過台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].start |
27555.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].end |
27557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].text |
不會講中文也看不懂中文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].start |
27557.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].end |
27559.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].text |
而不只是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].start |
27559.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].end |
27561.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].text |
審計部跟監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].start |
27561.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].end |
27563.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].text |
包括立法院預算中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].start |
27563.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].end |
27565.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].text |
也指出Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].start |
27565.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].end |
27567.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].text |
的網站瀏覽人數及APP |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].start |
27567.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].end |
27569.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].text |
下載案均未曾達標 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].start |
27569.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].end |
27571.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].text |
而文化部乾脆113年 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].start |
27571.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].end |
27573.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].text |
起就把APP |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].start |
27573.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].end |
27575.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].text |
下載數的績效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].start |
27575.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].end |
27577.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].text |
測掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].start |
27577.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].end |
27579.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].text |
也不見為盡改成比較容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].start |
27579.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].end |
27581.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].text |
達成的追蹤數 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].start |
27581.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].end |
27583.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].text |
去年罷免立委期間Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].start |
27583.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].end |
27585.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].text |
的主管E.D. Mu |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].start |
27585.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].end |
27587.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].text |
更離職痛批質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].start |
27587.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].end |
27589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].text |
Taiwan Plus受政治力干預 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].start |
27589.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].end |
27591.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].text |
無法有理性 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].start |
27591.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].end |
27593.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].text |
新聞工作的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].start |
27593.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].end |
27595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].text |
凡此種種我要特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].start |
27595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].end |
27597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].text |
提醒你發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].start |
27598.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].end |
27600.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].text |
不是一個單位這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].start |
27600.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].end |
27602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].text |
Taiwan Plus也是算集大成了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].start |
27602.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].end |
27604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].text |
蠻了不起的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].start |
27604.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].end |
27606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].text |
就是基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].start |
27606.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].end |
27608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].text |
四方炮火批評不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].start |
27608.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].end |
27610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].text |
你可以看到這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].start |
27610.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].end |
27612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].text |
也不容易啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].start |
27612.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].end |
27614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].text |
那無論第一期跨年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].start |
27614.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].end |
27616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].text |
之後跟第二期跨年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].start |
27616.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].end |
27618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].text |
預算執行至今 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].start |
27618.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].end |
27620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].text |
文化部以及Taiwan Plus改 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].start |
27620.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].end |
27622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].text |
錯檢討的能力我看不到啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].start |
27622.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].end |
27624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].text |
空有高額預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].start |
27624.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].end |
27626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].text |
空洞的期待文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].start |
27626.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].end |
27628.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].text |
並沒有辦法真正面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].start |
27628.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].end |
27630.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].text |
改革也看不到效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].start |
27630.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].end |
27632.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].text |
那不僅能維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].start |
27632.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].end |
27634.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].text |
數位內容經營能力不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].start |
27634.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].end |
27636.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].text |
社群影響力低落的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].start |
27636.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].end |
27638.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].text |
現狀也增加很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].start |
27638.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].end |
27640.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].text |
的負面印象也嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].start |
27640.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].end |
27642.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].text |
背離計畫的初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].start |
27642.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].end |
27644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].text |
Taiwan Plus從中央社到現在公視 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].start |
27644.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].end |
27646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].text |
接手又來跟我說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].start |
27646.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].end |
27648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].text |
我當然理解公視想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].start |
27648.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].end |
27650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].text |
避免以前的錯誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].start |
27650.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].end |
27652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].text |
但是問題是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].start |
27652.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].end |
27654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].text |
做到了嗎如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].start |
27654.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].end |
27656.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].text |
今天只有單一的單位對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].start |
27656.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].end |
27658.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].text |
Taiwan Plus有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].start |
27658.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].end |
27660.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].text |
那可能單一單位有所偏誤 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].start |
27660.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].end |
27662.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].text |
可是已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].start |
27662.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].end |
27664.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].text |
編了兩次跨年度預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].start |
27664.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].end |
27666.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].text |
就擠滿了審計部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].start |
27666.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].end |
27668.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].text |
監察院立委立法院預算中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].start |
27668.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].end |
27670.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].text |
的滿滿的糾正 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].start |
27670.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].end |
27672.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].text |
跟檢討那各個公視 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].start |
27672.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].end |
27674.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].text |
來說明的時候表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].start |
27674.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].end |
27676.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].text |
Taiwan Plus在國外露出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].start |
27676.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].end |
27678.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].text |
有所進步但也坦言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].start |
27678.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].end |
27680.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].text |
當初設定AP下來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].start |
27680.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].end |
27682.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].text |
KPI比較難達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].start |
27682.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].end |
27684.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].text |
那不是刁難公視 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].start |
27684.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].end |
27686.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].text |
我用這個現狀來比喻 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].start |
27686.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].end |
27688.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].text |
當初發展國際數位傳播計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].start |
27688.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].end |
27690.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].text |
要推Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].start |
27690.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].end |
27692.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].text |
就是想得清楚了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].start |
27692.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].end |
27694.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].text |
規劃好的預算嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].start |
27694.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].end |
27696.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].text |
這樣的花錢方式對人民負責嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].start |
27696.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].end |
27698.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].text |
總而言之 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].start |
27698.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].end |
27700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].text |
發展國際數位傳播計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].start |
27700.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].end |
27702.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].text |
在預算計畫提出跟續編支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].start |
27705.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].end |
27707.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].text |
這個計畫就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].start |
27707.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].end |
27709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].text |
說明清楚跟程序不符的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].start |
27709.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].end |
27711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].text |
而後續執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].start |
27711.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].end |
27713.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].text |
又有許許多多的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].start |
27713.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].end |
27715.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].text |
失誤所以我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].start |
27715.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].end |
27717.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].text |
真的認為啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].start |
27717.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].end |
27719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].text |
我們現在是不是應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].start |
27719.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].end |
27721.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].text |
好好的想想看Taiwan Plus的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].start |
27721.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].end |
27723.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].text |
成效到底如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].start |
27723.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].end |
27725.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].text |
那我想待會聽完 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].start |
27725.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].end |
27727.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].text |
我們主管機關回答之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].start |
27727.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].end |
27729.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].text |
另外我要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].start |
27729.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].end |
27731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].text |
即便這麼多問題Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].start |
27731.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].end |
27733.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].text |
的錯還沒停下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].start |
27733.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].end |
27735.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].text |
等你們說明完我再跟你們講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].start |
27735.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].end |
27737.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].text |
後面還有很多的一些奇怪的事情發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].start |
27737.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].end |
27739.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].text |
大家看主管機關要怎麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].start |
27739.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].end |
27741.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].text |
告訴大家已經被大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].start |
27741.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].end |
27743.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].text |
盯上了Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].start |
27743.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].end |
27745.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].text |
沒有改進還不斷的捅樓子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].start |
27745.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].end |
27747.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].text |
到底發生什麼事情以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].start |
27748.25 |
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27750.25 |
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好 |
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27750.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].end |
27752.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].text |
我做最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].start |
27752.16 |
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27754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].text |
那首先因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].start |
27754.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].end |
27756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].text |
也感謝吳思耀委員剛剛有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].start |
27756.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].end |
27758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].text |
這個對於 |
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27758.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].end |
27760.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].text |
影片補助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].start |
27761.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].end |
27763.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].text |
我也想補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].start |
27763.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].end |
27765.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].text |
60題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].start |
27764.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].end |
27766.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].text |
60文化創意產業發展業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].start |
27766.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].end |
27768.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].text |
還是要再多念兩句 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].start |
27768.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].end |
27770.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].start |
27770.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].end |
27772.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].text |
我們那個文化部文化資產 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].start |
27772.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].end |
27774.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].text |
園區台中酒廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].start |
27774.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].end |
27776.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].text |
復興路台中酒廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].start |
27776.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].end |
27778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].text |
有關於這一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].start |
27778.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].end |
27780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].text |
我還是認為在我們的文化創意產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].start |
27780.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].end |
27782.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].text |
發展的一個業務還是有待精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].start |
27783.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].end |
27785.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].text |
那我希望我們會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].start |
27785.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].end |
27787.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].text |
部長應該跟我討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].start |
27787.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].end |
27789.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].text |
那個台中酒廠的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].start |
27789.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].end |
27791.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].text |
資產園區的一個活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].start |
27791.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].end |
27793.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].text |
我認為還有待加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].start |
27793.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].end |
27795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].text |
因為有關於台北文山 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].start |
27795.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].end |
27797.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].text |
還有高雄博二 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].start |
27797.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].end |
27799.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].text |
這一類的這個文化的產業園區 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].start |
27799.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].end |
27801.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].text |
台中還有很大的一個進步空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].start |
27801.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].end |
27803.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].text |
那我們也希望透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].start |
27803.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].end |
27805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].text |
討論甚至有必要的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].start |
27805.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].end |
27807.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].text |
我可能會再辦一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].start |
27807.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].end |
27809.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].text |
一個會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].start |
27809.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].end |
27811.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].text |
那我希望我們會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].start |
27811.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].end |
27813.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].text |
討論甚至有必要的話我可能會再辦考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].start |
27813.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].end |
27815.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].text |
實地的參訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].start |
27815.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].end |
27817.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].text |
我希望這個文山跟博二的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].start |
27817.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].end |
27819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].text |
的一個成功應該要再拉到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].start |
27819.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].end |
27821.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].text |
台中也會有類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].start |
27821.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].end |
27823.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].text |
文山華山對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].start |
27823.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].end |
27825.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].text |
華山對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].start |
27825.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].end |
27827.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].text |
跟博二喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].start |
27827.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].end |
27829.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].text |
有這樣子的相關學習的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].start |
27829.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].end |
27831.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].text |
空間我們一起來加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].start |
27831.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].end |
27833.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].text |
那90的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].start |
27833.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].end |
27835.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].text |
我想影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].start |
27836.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].end |
27838.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].text |
影視及流行音樂的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].start |
27838.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].end |
27840.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].text |
這又關係到現在雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].start |
27840.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].end |
27842.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].text |
是在討論這一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].start |
27842.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].end |
27844.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].text |
的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].start |
27844.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].end |
27846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].text |
影視師那我想影視局 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].start |
27846.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].end |
27848.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].text |
也在辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].start |
27848.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].end |
27850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].text |
不管是涉及補助投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].start |
27850.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].end |
27852.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].text |
公共媒體一個重大場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].start |
27852.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].end |
27854.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].text |
我想這都是高度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].start |
27854.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].end |
27856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].text |
社會的檢視的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].start |
27856.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].end |
27858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].text |
預算項目喔那今天早上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].start |
27858.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].end |
27860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].text |
也為了這件事情也一直不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].start |
27860.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].end |
27862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].text |
在吵就是我們在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].start |
27862.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].end |
27864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].text |
108年補助到這個性侵 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].start |
27864.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].end |
27866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].text |
毛小孩的這個音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].start |
27866.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].end |
27868.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].text |
也都是在出自於這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].start |
27868.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].end |
27870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].text |
所以我們都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].start |
27870.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].end |
27872.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].text |
現在的審查標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].start |
27872.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].end |
27874.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].text |
計畫目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].start |
27874.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].end |
27876.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].text |
成果標示 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].start |
27876.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].end |
27878.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].text |
都應該要再好好的檢視喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].start |
27878.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].end |
27880.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].text |
因為早上我也提到喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].start |
27880.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].end |
27882.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].text |
部長也在講在質詢的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].start |
27882.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].end |
27884.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].text |
也都回應說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].start |
27884.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].end |
27886.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].text |
對於性侵毛小孩這個音樂 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].start |
27886.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].end |
27888.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].text |
拿回去再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].start |
27888.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].end |
27890.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].text |
做一個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].start |
27890.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].end |
27892.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].text |
那評審是說沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].start |
27892.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].end |
27894.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].text |
不會追回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].start |
27894.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].end |
27896.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].text |
那尤其我上次質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].start |
27896.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].end |
27898.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9503].text |
也提到當事者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].start |
27898.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].end |
27900.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9504].text |
創作者喔公開承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].start |
27900.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].end |
27902.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9505].text |
自己剽竊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].start |
27903.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].end |
27907.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9506].text |
這個國外的相關的一些影音作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].start |
27907.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].end |
27909.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9507].text |
那沒有想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].start |
27909.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].end |
27911.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9508].text |
文化部竟然還幫他講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].start |
27911.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].end |
27913.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9509].text |
沒有啊你們認為沒有剽竊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].start |
27913.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].end |
27915.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9510].text |
我覺得這也蠻特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].start |
27915.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].end |
27917.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9511].text |
就是連創作者都 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].start |
27917.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].end |
27919.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9512].text |
自己說我自己是剽竊了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].start |
27919.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].end |
27921.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9513].text |
那文化部竟然還說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].start |
27921.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].end |
27923.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9514].text |
評審覺得沒有剽竊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].start |
27923.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].end |
27925.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9515].text |
我覺得這樣子的一個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].start |
27925.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].end |
27927.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9516].text |
讓全民沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].start |
27927.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].end |
27929.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9517].text |
所以我們都希望喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].start |
27929.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].end |
27931.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9518].text |
這樣子的一個補助金額相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].start |
27931.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].end |
27933.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9519].text |
我們沒有要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].start |
27933.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].end |
27935.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9520].text |
不准補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].start |
27935.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].end |
27937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9521].text |
我們希望的是能夠更謹慎的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].start |
27937.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].end |
27939.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9522].text |
更加強相關的審查標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].start |
27939.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].end |
27941.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9523].text |
以及後續的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].start |
27941.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].end |
27943.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9524].text |
可以讓全民 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].start |
27943.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].end |
27945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9525].text |
能夠接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].start |
27945.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].end |
27947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9526].text |
所以再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].start |
27947.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].end |
27949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9527].text |
我們Taiwan Plus的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].start |
27949.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].end |
27951.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9528].text |
一個國際傳播成效喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].start |
27951.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].end |
27953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9529].text |
我想每一年我們都在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].start |
27953.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].end |
27955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9530].text |
它的成效真的讓全民 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].start |
27955.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].end |
27957.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9531].text |
全民 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].start |
27957.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].end |
27959.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9532].text |
都沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].start |
27959.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].end |
27961.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9533].text |
甚至很多的節目也有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].start |
27961.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].end |
27963.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9534].text |
讓人家捏一把冷汗 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].start |
27963.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].end |
27965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9535].text |
我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].start |
27965.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].end |
27967.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9536].text |
應該要好好的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].start |
27967.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].end |
27969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9537].text |
我們也沒有看到實際的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].start |
27969.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].end |
27971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9538].text |
所以現在又有委員提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].start |
27971.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].end |
27973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9539].text |
相關的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].start |
27973.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].end |
27975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9540].text |
再來就是黃牛的部分我有寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].start |
27975.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].end |
27977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9541].text |
我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].start |
27977.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].end |
27979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9542].text |
跨部會的一個合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].start |
27979.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].end |
27981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9543].text |
目前看起來還是沒有做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].start |
27981.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].end |
27983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9544].text |
所以剛剛有其他委員也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].start |
27983.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].end |
27985.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9545].text |
很明確的黃牛問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].start |
27985.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].end |
27987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9546].text |
沒有辦法處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].start |
27987.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].end |
27989.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9547].text |
我們要講的是現在已經有法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].start |
27989.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].end |
27991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9548].text |
但是實際有了檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].start |
27991.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].end |
27995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9549].text |
但是沒有實際開罰的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].start |
27995.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].end |
27997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9550].text |
那導致黃牛根本沒有辦法降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].start |
27997.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].end |
27999.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9551].text |
民眾對於黃牛的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].start |
27999.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].end |
28003.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9552].text |
還是非常非常的不滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].start |
28004.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].end |
28006.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9553].text |
我覺得這個文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].start |
28006.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].end |
28008.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9554].text |
責無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].start |
28008.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].end |
28010.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9555].text |
我想我自己在最近也接到很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].start |
28010.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].end |
28012.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9556].text |
民眾對於黃牛的一些相關事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].start |
28012.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].end |
28014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9557].text |
他們都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].start |
28014.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].end |
28016.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9558].text |
完全沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].start |
28016.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].end |
28018.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9559].text |
所以被動式的在查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].start |
28018.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].end |
28020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9560].text |
那被動式的在鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].start |
28020.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].end |
28022.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9561].text |
廠商補助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].start |
28022.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].end |
28024.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9562].text |
做實名制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].start |
28024.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].end |
28026.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9563].text |
這樣子的一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].start |
28026.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].end |
28028.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9564].text |
有待精進是不是能夠改變新的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].start |
28028.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].end |
28030.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9565].text |
或者是編列更大的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].start |
28030.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].end |
28032.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9566].text |
預算數來補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].start |
28032.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].end |
28036.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9567].text |
廠商他們應該要多一點來使用實名制的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].start |
28036.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].end |
28040.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9568].text |
也希望文化部應該要有一個精進的策略 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].start |
28041.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].end |
28043.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9569].text |
那最後我也要提醒這個文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].start |
28043.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].end |
28045.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9570].text |
那講到這個售票機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].start |
28045.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].end |
28051.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9571].text |
我們相關的售票的一個系統平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].start |
28051.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].end |
28053.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9572].text |
雖然都是民間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].start |
28053.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].end |
28055.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9573].text |
但是文化部能不能夠協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].start |
28055.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].end |
28059.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9574].text |
因為優化這些售票平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].start |
28059.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].end |
28061.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9575].text |
或者是跟業者好好的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].start |
28061.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].end |
28065.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9576].text |
售票平台每次售票都當機 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].start |
28065.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].end |
28067.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9577].text |
那甚至售票平台後續 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].start |
28067.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].end |
28069.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9578].text |
退票的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].start |
28069.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].end |
28073.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9579].text |
都非常非常的時間拉很長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].start |
28073.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].end |
28075.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9580].text |
延宕 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].start |
28075.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].end |
28077.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9581].text |
像最近我接到的檢舉案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].start |
28077.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].end |
28079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9582].text |
就是最退票的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].start |
28079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].end |
28081.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9583].text |
它符合資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].start |
28081.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].end |
28083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9584].text |
但是退票大概要14到30天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].start |
28083.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].end |
28085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9585].text |
那國際的一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].start |
28085.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].end |
28087.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9586].text |
售票平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].start |
28087.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].end |
28089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9587].text |
大概都是7天以內 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].start |
28089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].end |
28091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9588].text |
我覺得這個部分也有待 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].start |
28091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].end |
28093.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9589].text |
文化部作為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].start |
28093.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].end |
28095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9590].text |
是不是能夠幫忙協助精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].start |
28095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].end |
28097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9591].text |
那跟業者多溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].start |
28097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].end |
28099.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9592].text |
我也希望文化部待會一併說明以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].start |
28107.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].end |
28109.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9593].text |
好,有請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].start |
28115.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].end |
28117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9594].text |
影視在這邊先做初步的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].start |
28117.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].end |
28119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9595].text |
那針對一個各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].start |
28119.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].end |
28121.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9596].text |
其實都有關注到在黃牛防治的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].start |
28121.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].end |
28123.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9597].text |
實際上在法規過了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9598].start |
28123.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9598].end |
28125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9598].text |
我們其實有跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].start |
28125.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].end |
28127.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9599].text |
還有相關的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].start |
28127.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].end |
28129.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9600].text |
有持續在保持聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].start |
28129.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].end |
28131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9601].text |
也從執行的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].start |
28131.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].end |
28133.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9602].text |
持續在完備我們整個檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].start |
28133.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].end |
28135.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9603].text |
或者是在查處部分的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].start |
28135.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].end |
28137.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9604].text |
那在我分兩個面向來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].start |
28137.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].end |
28139.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9605].text |
一個是關於委員關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].start |
28139.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].end |
28141.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9606].text |
檢舉案的處理的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].start |
28141.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].end |
28143.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9607].text |
實際上我們跟內政部警政署 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].start |
28143.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].end |
28145.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9608].text |
其實都是有在做即時的溝通跟處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].start |
28145.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].end |
28147.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9609].text |
那其實也會提供相關的法律諮詢服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].start |
28147.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].end |
28149.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9610].text |
讓地方政府在整個採取的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].start |
28149.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].end |
28151.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9611].text |
能夠更加的迅速 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].start |
28151.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].end |
28153.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9612].text |
那剛有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].start |
28153.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].end |
28155.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9613].text |
其實任何檢舉案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].start |
28155.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].end |
28157.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9614].text |
他其實需要去追查票的來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].start |
28157.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].end |
28159.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9615].text |
因為他畢竟涉及被採取人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].start |
28159.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].end |
28161.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9616].text |
就是被檢舉人的一個權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].start |
28161.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].end |
28163.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9617].text |
他必須確認人別這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].start |
28163.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].end |
28165.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9618].text |
那其實跟警管會之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].start |
28165.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].end |
28167.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9619].text |
我們過去也曾經有過溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].start |
28167.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].end |
28169.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9620].text |
後續也會依照委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].start |
28169.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].end |
28171.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9621].text |
只是我們其實會持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].start |
28171.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].end |
28173.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9622].text |
我們會再跟他們去做一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].start |
28173.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].end |
28175.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9623].text |
看在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].start |
28175.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].end |
28177.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9624].text |
警管會這邊是不是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].start |
28177.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].end |
28179.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9625].text |
其他放寬的可能我們會持續討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].start |
28179.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].end |
28181.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9626].text |
但是實際上在目前的查處過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].start |
28181.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].end |
28183.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9627].text |
其實除了警管會的賬戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].start |
28183.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].end |
28185.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9628].text |
就是銀行賬戶之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].start |
28185.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].end |
28187.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9629].text |
其實我們也是跟售票平台這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].start |
28187.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].end |
28189.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9630].text |
都有在即時合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].start |
28189.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].end |
28191.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9631].text |
意思是說地方政府其實他可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].start |
28191.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].end |
28193.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9632].text |
票號序號這一塊去追查到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].start |
28193.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].end |
28195.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9633].text |
最原始的一個購票人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].start |
28195.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].end |
28197.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9634].text |
他其實是有多管道可以去做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].start |
28197.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].end |
28199.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9635].text |
或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].start |
28199.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].end |
28201.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9636].text |
手機的部分也可以試著去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].start |
28201.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].end |
28203.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9637].text |
跟相關的單位去調到人別 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].start |
28203.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].end |
28205.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9638].text |
那這一下我們其實一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].start |
28205.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].end |
28207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9639].text |
在跟地方政府了解他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].start |
28207.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].end |
28209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9640].text |
在採取的時候需要的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].start |
28209.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].end |
28211.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9641].text |
協助那也會跟其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].start |
28211.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].end |
28213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9642].text |
相關單位來做一些處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].start |
28213.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].end |
28215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9643].text |
那包括說在其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].start |
28215.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].end |
28217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9644].text |
黃金房這其實一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].start |
28217.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].end |
28219.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9645].text |
是價價轉售是一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].start |
28219.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].end |
28221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9646].text |
那其他有所謂的不正方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].start |
28221.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].end |
28223.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9647].text |
那不正方式其實售票平台在第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].start |
28223.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].end |
28225.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9648].text |
他其實一旦在熱門演唱會開賣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].start |
28225.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].end |
28227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9649].text |
有任何異常情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].start |
28227.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].end |
28229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9650].text |
其實都會第一時間將相關的記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].start |
28229.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].end |
28231.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9651].text |
移送我們我們也就會立刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].start |
28231.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].end |
28233.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9652].text |
第一時間先行通報後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].start |
28233.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].end |
28235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9653].text |
也會正式的來移送內政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].start |
28235.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].end |
28237.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9654].text |
警政署那另外在剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].start |
28237.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].end |
28239.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9655].text |
委員們提到的其他的精進方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].start |
28239.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].end |
28241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9656].text |
我們其實有持續在努力包括在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].start |
28241.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].end |
28243.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9657].text |
實名制的處理上面也會回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].start |
28243.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].end |
28245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9658].text |
委員的意見其實委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].start |
28245.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].end |
28247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9659].text |
現在售票平台大概我們其實在定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].start |
28247.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].end |
28249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9660].text |
都會跟他們做一些討論跟諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].start |
28249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].end |
28251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9661].text |
那他們其實也都有持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].start |
28251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].end |
28253.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9662].text |
在精進他們因為畢竟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].start |
28253.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].end |
28255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9663].text |
是非常演唱會非常熱門的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].start |
28255.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].end |
28257.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9664].text |
他們自己也都有在開發一些科技工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].start |
28257.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].end |
28261.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9665].text |
那來能夠提高他們的一個服務效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].start |
28261.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].end |
28263.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9666].text |
那接下來我們也會再關注一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].start |
28263.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].end |
28265.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9667].text |
業界的需求那我們來事實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].start |
28265.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].end |
28267.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9668].text |
看看能夠做什麼樣的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].start |
28267.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].end |
28270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9669].text |
那同時也跟我們有跟主要的場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].start |
28270.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].end |
28273.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9670].text |
還有主辦單位都會當我們知道有那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].start |
28273.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].end |
28275.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9671].text |
演唱會的訊息的時候其實我們會主動 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].start |
28275.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].end |
28277.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9672].text |
因為現在其實各國並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].start |
28277.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].end |
28279.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9673].text |
做強制實名制的這樣的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].start |
28279.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].end |
28281.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9674].text |
但是我們其實也觀察市場的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].start |
28281.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].end |
28283.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9675].text |
實名制其實在台灣來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].start |
28283.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].end |
28285.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9676].text |
是算是有效能夠稍微降低 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].start |
28285.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].end |
28287.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9677].text |
黃牛的情形所以我們有跟各大場館 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].start |
28287.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].end |
28289.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9678].text |
還有主辦單位我們都會在第一時間去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].start |
28289.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].end |
28291.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9679].text |
跟他們做一些討論希望他們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].start |
28291.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].end |
28293.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9680].text |
採取實名制那場館也會配合我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].start |
28293.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].end |
28295.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9681].text |
就是在檔期的協商上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].start |
28295.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].end |
28297.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9682].text |
其實會提供一些相關的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].start |
28297.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].end |
28299.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9683].text |
來共同促進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].start |
28299.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].end |
28301.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9684].text |
那同時間其實另外一個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].start |
28301.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].end |
28303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9685].text |
執行兩年多來觀察到的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].start |
28303.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].end |
28305.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9686].text |
是其實現在國內有非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].start |
28305.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].end |
28307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9687].text |
的一些所謂的黃牛票的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].start |
28307.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].end |
28309.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9688].text |
它其實很大部分程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].start |
28309.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].end |
28311.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9689].text |
其實我們都會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].start |
28311.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].end |
28313.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9690].text |
其實很大部分程度其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].start |
28313.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].end |
28315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9691].text |
大概是會是所謂的詐騙訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].start |
28315.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].end |
28317.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9692].text |
那接下來我們也透過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].start |
28317.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].end |
28319.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9693].text |
其實打詐平台的一個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].start |
28319.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].end |
28321.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9694].text |
還有跟社群平台之間的一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].start |
28321.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].end |
28323.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9695].text |
一旦我們發現有這些疑似 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].start |
28323.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].end |
28325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9696].text |
特別的訊息的帳號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].start |
28325.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].end |
28327.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9697].text |
其實我們也都有建立了管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].start |
28327.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].end |
28329.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9698].text |
能夠將資訊提供那希望是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].start |
28329.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].end |
28331.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9699].text |
從這個各個面向能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].start |
28331.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].end |
28333.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9700].text |
再強化我們在這個文創法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].start |
28333.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].end |
28335.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9701].text |
實質一條通過之後的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].start |
28335.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].end |
28337.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9702].text |
相關處置 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].start |
28337.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].end |
28339.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9703].text |
那剛剛主席有提到的關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].start |
28339.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].end |
28341.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9704].text |
這個部分我們其實也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].start |
28341.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].end |
28343.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9705].text |
如果有相關的訊息我們會再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].start |
28343.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].end |
28345.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9706].text |
跟主辦單位還有生發平台做溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].start |
28345.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].end |
28347.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9707].text |
因為主要可能會涉及一些消費爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].start |
28347.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].end |
28349.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9708].text |
有些部分可能需要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].start |
28349.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].end |
28351.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9709].text |
民間的一個處理方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].start |
28351.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].end |
28353.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9710].text |
那另外有委員提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].start |
28353.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].end |
28355.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9711].text |
關於案內的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].start |
28355.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].end |
28357.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9712].text |
案內其實我們採取的其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].start |
28357.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].end |
28359.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9713].text |
他當時也是回應影視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].start |
28359.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].end |
28361.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9714].text |
一個場景製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].start |
28361.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].end |
28363.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9715].text |
實景製作的一個需求而開始的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].start |
28363.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].end |
28365.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9716].text |
那我們其實這兩年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].start |
28365.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].end |
28367.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9717].text |
其實以奇事採逐步建設 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].start |
28367.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].end |
28369.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9718].text |
建設加上製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].start |
28369.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].end |
28371.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9719].text |
服務並進的方式來持續的推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].start |
28371.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].end |
28373.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9720].text |
那當然各個委員也都會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].start |
28373.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].end |
28375.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9721].text |
關心說是不是能夠接續 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].start |
28375.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].end |
28377.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9722].text |
能夠在完善整個影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].start |
28377.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].end |
28379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9723].text |
基礎服務之後能夠外擴到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].start |
28379.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].end |
28381.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9724].text |
其他地方的效應 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].start |
28381.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].end |
28383.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9725].text |
那這一項因為是由台南市政府在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].start |
28383.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].end |
28385.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9726].text |
那他目前也我們也已經請他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].start |
28385.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].end |
28387.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9727].text |
大概從去年開始就要思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].start |
28387.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].end |
28389.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9728].text |
跟規劃所謂的促餐的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].start |
28389.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].end |
28391.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9729].text |
那他們現在也正在辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].start |
28391.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].end |
28393.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9730].text |
相關的促餐案當中我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].start |
28393.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].end |
28395.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9731].text |
持續的來關注也會希望他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].start |
28395.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].end |
28397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9732].text |
能夠回應除了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].start |
28397.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].end |
28399.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9733].text |
在回應影視服務需求之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].start |
28399.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].end |
28401.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9734].text |
能夠也真正做到能夠帶動 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].start |
28401.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].end |
28403.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9735].text |
周邊的一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].start |
28403.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].end |
28405.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9736].text |
那另外有幾位委員有提到關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].start |
28405.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].end |
28407.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9737].text |
藝人就是有負中國市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].start |
28407.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].end |
28409.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9738].text |
的這些的一個相關注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].start |
28409.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].end |
28411.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9739].text |
我們其實一直也都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].start |
28411.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].end |
28413.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9740].text |
在關注也委員們也都一直有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].start |
28413.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].end |
28415.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9741].text |
提醒我們那我們其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].start |
28415.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].end |
28417.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9742].text |
目前其實包括我們跟委員會之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].start |
28417.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].end |
28419.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9743].text |
當然都一定是有一定的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].start |
28419.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].end |
28421.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9744].text |
合作跟聯繫那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].start |
28421.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].end |
28423.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9745].text |
後續還是會以強化風險提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].start |
28423.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].end |
28425.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9746].text |
然後當然還有就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].start |
28425.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].end |
28427.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9747].text |
我們一貫以來其實是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].start |
28427.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].end |
28429.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9748].text |
透過強化我國影視內容的體質 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].start |
28429.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].end |
28431.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9749].text |
還有鼓勵去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].start |
28431.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].end |
28433.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9750].text |
佈局全球這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].start |
28433.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].end |
28435.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9751].text |
來做一個加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].start |
28435.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].end |
28437.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9752].text |
那我們剛剛提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].start |
28437.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].end |
28439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9753].text |
如果相關的一些規範或要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].start |
28439.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].end |
28441.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9754].text |
我們也會滾動的持續來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].start |
28441.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].end |
28443.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9755].text |
來檢討跟檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].start |
28443.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].end |
28445.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9756].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].start |
28445.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].end |
28447.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9757].text |
也稍微回應一下就是在國際平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].start |
28447.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].end |
28449.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9758].text |
的部分我們大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].start |
28449.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].end |
28451.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9759].text |
一直以來其實透過影視局還有我們一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].start |
28451.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].end |
28453.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9760].text |
相關的影視補助資源大概都會從 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].start |
28453.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].end |
28455.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9761].text |
透過市場獎的參與還有鼓勵國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].start |
28455.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].end |
28457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9762].text |
合資合制這一塊來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].start |
28457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].end |
28459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9763].text |
能夠更大一點的來提增 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].start |
28459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].end |
28461.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9764].text |
我們的國際影視影視作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].start |
28461.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].end |
28463.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9765].text |
的國際能見度那這個也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].start |
28463.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].end |
28465.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9766].text |
持續的在透過影視局還有文策院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].start |
28465.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].end |
28467.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9767].text |
的共同努力我們會持續的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].start |
28467.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].end |
28469.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9768].text |
進行以上先簡要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].start |
28469.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].end |
28471.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9769].text |
說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].start |
28473.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].end |
28475.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9770].text |
好我們繼續謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].start |
28477.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].end |
28479.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9771].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].start |
28479.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].end |
28481.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9772].text |
TOMBUS報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].start |
28481.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].end |
28483.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9773].text |
TOMBUS的績效指標的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].start |
28483.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].end |
28485.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9774].text |
事實上在那個根據 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].start |
28485.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].end |
28487.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9775].text |
最新的英國跟日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].start |
28487.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].end |
28489.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9776].text |
報告顯示就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].start |
28489.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].end |
28491.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9777].text |
官網還有APP的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].start |
28491.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].end |
28493.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9778].text |
觀眾使用習慣在持續下滑 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].start |
28493.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].end |
28495.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9779].text |
那社群媒體和 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].start |
28495.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].end |
28497.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9780].text |
OTD平台的使用習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].start |
28497.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].end |
28499.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9781].text |
是持續在提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].start |
28499.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].end |
28501.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9782].text |
那所以就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].start |
28501.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].end |
28503.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9783].text |
TOMBUS希望對焦國際的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].start |
28503.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].end |
28505.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9784].text |
出達更多的國際觀眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].start |
28505.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].end |
28507.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9785].text |
善用納稅人的每一分錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].start |
28507.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].end |
28509.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9786].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].start |
28509.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].end |
28511.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9787].text |
所以我們在那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].start |
28512.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].end |
28514.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9788].text |
跨平台的影音觀看次數的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].start |
28514.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].end |
28516.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9789].text |
已經超過了4.8億次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].start |
28516.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].end |
28518.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9790].text |
跨平台的影音觀看時數 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].start |
28518.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].end |
28520.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9791].text |
的部分超過1100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].start |
28520.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].end |
28522.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9792].text |
小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].start |
28522.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].end |
28524.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9793].text |
跨平台的總追蹤人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].start |
28524.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].end |
28526.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9794].text |
超過180萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].start |
28526.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].end |
28528.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9795].text |
當然這些還不夠我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].start |
28528.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].end |
28530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9796].text |
持續的努力以上向委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].start |
28530.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].end |
28532.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9797].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].start |
28535.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].end |
28537.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9798].text |
好請多謝向委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].start |
28540.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].end |
28542.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9799].text |
謝謝我們相關單位的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].start |
28542.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].end |
28544.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9800].text |
我這邊直接講我一個具名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].start |
28544.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].end |
28546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9801].text |
檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].start |
28546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].end |
28548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9802].text |
我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].start |
28548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].end |
28550.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9803].text |
這具名的檢舉當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].start |
28550.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].end |
28552.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9804].text |
Taiwan Plus的總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].start |
28552.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].end |
28554.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9805].text |
請問現在人在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].start |
28554.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].end |
28556.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9806].text |
現在華府 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].start |
28556.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].end |
28558.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9807].text |
他從今年4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].start |
28558.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].end |
28560.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9808].text |
我先講好啊他的職稱叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].start |
28560.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].end |
28562.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[9809].text |
總編輯總編輯不是特派記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].start |
28564.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].end |
28566.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9810].text |
他從今年4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].start |
28566.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].end |
28568.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9811].text |
返回美國進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].start |
28568.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].end |
28570.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9812].text |
長達3個月的海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].start |
28570.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].end |
28572.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9813].text |
遠距工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].start |
28572.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].end |
28574.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9814].text |
這檢舉信具名檢舉信指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].start |
28574.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].end |
28576.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9815].text |
公視員工並無長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].start |
28576.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].end |
28578.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9816].text |
達3個月遠距 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].start |
28578.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].end |
28580.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9817].text |
海外工作的潛力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].start |
28580.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].end |
28582.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9818].text |
正常公務員出差 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].start |
28582.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].end |
28584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9819].text |
也就是最多兩週 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].start |
28584.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].end |
28586.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9820].text |
那中間是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].start |
28586.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].end |
28588.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9821].text |
涉及了植物特權的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].start |
28588.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].end |
28590.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9822].text |
濫用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].start |
28590.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].end |
28592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9823].text |
而檢舉人也指出啊台灣跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].start |
28592.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].end |
28594.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9824].text |
美國時差晝夜顛倒 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].start |
28594.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].end |
28596.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9825].text |
那總編輯實質管理時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].start |
28596.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].end |
28598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9826].text |
大幅縮小 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].start |
28598.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].end |
28600.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9827].text |
也無法落實都島的植物 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].start |
28600.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].end |
28602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9828].text |
我詢問過文化部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].start |
28602.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].end |
28604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9829].text |
你們有回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].start |
28604.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].end |
28606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9830].text |
你們證實啊總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].start |
28606.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].end |
28608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9831].text |
曹育芬他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].start |
28608.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].end |
28610.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9832].text |
遠距工作時間是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].start |
28610.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].end |
28612.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9833].text |
4月20號到7月10號 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].start |
28612.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].end |
28614.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9834].text |
沒錯吧對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].start |
28614.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].end |
28616.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9835].text |
所以我想總編輯現在當然還在美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].start |
28616.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].end |
28618.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9836].text |
我今天要講一件什麼事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].start |
28618.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].end |
28620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9837].text |
非常有趣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].start |
28620.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].end |
28622.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9838].text |
你知道監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].start |
28622.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].end |
28624.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9839].text |
在對於Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].start |
28624.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].end |
28626.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9840].text |
在提起所謂的檢討裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].start |
28626.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].end |
28628.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9841].text |
有一樣東西是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].start |
28628.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].end |
28630.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9842].text |
本來指他的紐西蘭的顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].start |
28630.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].end |
28632.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9843].text |
在海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].start |
28632.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].end |
28634.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9844].text |
來去主持編採會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].start |
28634.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].end |
28636.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9845].text |
他來去表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].start |
28636.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].end |
28638.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9846].text |
這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].start |
28638.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].end |
28640.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9847].text |
基本上跟現在所謂的我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].start |
28640.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].end |
28642.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9848].text |
新聞台的編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].start |
28642.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].end |
28644.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9849].text |
的實務是不合的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].start |
28644.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].end |
28646.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[9850].text |
可是結果我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].start |
28647.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].end |
28649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9851].text |
你現在可好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].start |
28649.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].end |
28651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9852].text |
紐西蘭的顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].start |
28651.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].end |
28653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9853].text |
今天你把他拿掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].start |
28653.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].end |
28655.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9854].text |
但是你請了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].start |
28655.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].end |
28657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9855].text |
到美國3個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].start |
28657.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].end |
28659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9856].text |
遠距工作的總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].start |
28659.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].end |
28661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9857].text |
那麼Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].start |
28661.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].end |
28663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9858].text |
被炮轟之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].start |
28663.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].end |
28665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9859].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].start |
28665.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].end |
28667.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9860].text |
大家都在盯著你改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].start |
28667.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].end |
28669.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9861].text |
結果你的改革第一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].start |
28669.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].end |
28671.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9862].text |
你是總編輯去年7月上任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].start |
28671.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].end |
28673.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9863].text |
今年就跑到美國3個月遠距工作去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].start |
28674.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].end |
28676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9864].text |
我問文化部你們只說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].start |
28676.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].end |
28678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9865].text |
這是你們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].start |
28678.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].end |
28680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9866].text |
這個朝總編 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].start |
28680.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].end |
28682.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9867].text |
總編輯的所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].start |
28682.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].end |
28684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9868].text |
簽訂的委任契約 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].start |
28684.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].end |
28686.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9869].text |
然後依照內部管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].start |
28686.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].end |
28688.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9870].text |
程序奉簽核准 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].start |
28688.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].end |
28690.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9871].text |
這回答跟沒回答差別在哪裡我看不太出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].start |
28690.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].end |
28692.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9872].text |
也是廢話一句 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].start |
28692.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].end |
28694.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9873].text |
那麼另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].start |
28694.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].end |
28696.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9874].text |
我就要問了那請問是誰排版 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].start |
28696.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].end |
28698.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9875].text |
簽准的那總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].start |
28698.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].end |
28700.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9876].text |
這個狀況是特例嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].start |
28700.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].end |
28702.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9877].text |
那你也告訴我公視跟Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].start |
28702.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].end |
28704.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9878].text |
有內部員工允許員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].start |
28704.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].end |
28706.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9879].text |
長期遠距海外工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].start |
28706.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].end |
28708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9880].text |
特別還是總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].start |
28708.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].end |
28710.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9881].text |
那公廣集團跟中央社 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].start |
28710.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].end |
28712.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9882].text |
尤其像中央社 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].start |
28712.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].end |
28714.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9883].text |
中央社就是負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].start |
28714.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].end |
28716.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9884].text |
很多海外的新聞業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].start |
28716.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].end |
28718.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9885].text |
他也只有駐點記者在海外工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].start |
28718.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].end |
28720.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9886].text |
中央社總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].start |
28720.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].end |
28722.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9887].text |
你可以想像他派到海外去做三個月的工作嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].start |
28722.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].end |
28724.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9888].text |
可以去遠距工作嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].start |
28725.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].end |
28727.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9889].text |
那請問這不是一能設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].start |
28727.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].end |
28729.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9890].text |
什麼是一能設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].start |
28730.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].end |
28732.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9891].text |
人都在海外遠距工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].start |
28732.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].end |
28734.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9892].text |
你們回覆我辦公室說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].start |
28734.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].end |
28736.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9893].text |
他遠距工作期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].start |
28736.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].end |
28738.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9894].text |
持續參與每日編採 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].start |
28738.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].end |
28740.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9895].text |
會議、人事招募會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].start |
28740.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].end |
28742.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9896].text |
新節目籌備等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].start |
28742.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].end |
28744.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9897].text |
等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].start |
28744.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].end |
28746.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9898].text |
那還說是當前全球 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].start |
28746.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].end |
28748.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9899].text |
媒體食物管理的趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].start |
28748.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].end |
28750.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9900].text |
這叫善用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].start |
28750.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].end |
28752.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9901].text |
通訊科技進行遠距 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].start |
28752.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].end |
28754.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9902].text |
辦公跟跨國任務調度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].start |
28754.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].end |
28756.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[9903].text |
這是常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].start |
28756.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].end |
28758.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9904].text |
我還是要跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].start |
28758.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].end |
28760.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[9905].text |
他叫總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].start |
28759.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].end |
28761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9906].text |
他叫總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].start |
28761.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].end |
28763.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9907].text |
他不是駐點記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].start |
28764.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].end |
28766.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9908].text |
有哪家台灣的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].start |
28766.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].end |
28768.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9909].text |
要參與每日編採會議、人事招募會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].start |
28768.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].end |
28770.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9910].text |
新節目籌備的總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].start |
28770.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].end |
28772.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9911].text |
接任沒多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].start |
28772.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].end |
28774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9912].text |
就可以跑到搬到美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].start |
28774.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].end |
28776.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9913].text |
去遠距工作三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].start |
28776.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].end |
28778.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9914].text |
你講一個例子給我聽嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].start |
28777.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].end |
28779.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9915].text |
除非只是證明總編輯是花瓶沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].start |
28779.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].end |
28781.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9916].text |
不需要他在這邊的意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].start |
28783.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].end |
28785.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9917].text |
所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].start |
28785.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].end |
28787.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9918].text |
你為什麼所謂的善用通訊科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].start |
28787.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].end |
28789.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9919].text |
進行遠距辦公跟跨國任務調度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].start |
28789.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].end |
28791.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9920].text |
那你怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].start |
28791.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].end |
28793.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9921].text |
他為什麼不在台灣常駐 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].start |
28793.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].end |
28795.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9922].text |
來處理每日編採 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].start |
28795.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].end |
28797.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9923].text |
來善用通訊科技 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].start |
28797.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].end |
28799.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9924].text |
跟美國的單位協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].start |
28799.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].end |
28801.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[9925].text |
你倒過來想啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].start |
28801.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].end |
28803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9926].text |
所以每天都要開編採會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].start |
28803.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].end |
28805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9927].text |
你不在台灣管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].start |
28805.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].end |
28807.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9928].text |
台媒有時差耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].start |
28807.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].end |
28809.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9929].text |
那我想請問是大家配合總編 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].start |
28810.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].end |
28812.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9930].text |
新聞能夠配合你的時差嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].start |
28813.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].end |
28815.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[9931].text |
跟美國單位洽接的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].start |
28816.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].end |
28818.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9932].text |
反而不能視訊會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].start |
28818.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].end |
28820.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9933].text |
不能出差 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].start |
28820.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].end |
28822.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9934].text |
一週兩週 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].start |
28822.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].end |
28824.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9935].text |
一定要到遠距工作三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].start |
28824.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].end |
28826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9936].text |
薪水多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].start |
28826.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].end |
28828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9937].text |
17萬2190元 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].start |
28828.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].end |
28830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9938].text |
跟次長的薪水一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].start |
28830.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].end |
28832.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9939].text |
那我想請問次長我也可以跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].start |
28832.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].end |
28834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9940].text |
現在海外我們通訊工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].start |
28834.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].end |
28836.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[9941].text |
這麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].start |
28835.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].end |
28837.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9942].text |
這麼容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].start |
28837.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].end |
28839.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9943].text |
次長就去美國工作三個月啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].start |
28839.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].end |
28841.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9944].text |
可以這樣做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].start |
28841.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].end |
28843.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9945].text |
可以這樣做嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].start |
28843.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].end |
28845.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[9946].text |
角色分工混淆不清喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].start |
28846.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].end |
28848.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9947].text |
所以我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].start |
28847.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].end |
28849.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9948].text |
就剛前面講Times Pass都已經備 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].start |
28850.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].end |
28852.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9949].text |
監察院明確的檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].start |
28852.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].end |
28854.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9950].text |
就是講紐西蘭顧問的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].start |
28854.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].end |
28858.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9951].text |
對台灣社會脈絡掌握有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].start |
28858.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].end |
28860.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9952].text |
針對重大國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].start |
28860.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].end |
28862.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9953].text |
跟本土事件時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].start |
28862.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].end |
28864.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9954].text |
出現判斷不一的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].start |
28864.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].end |
28866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9955].text |
然後身在紐西蘭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].start |
28866.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].end |
28868.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9956].text |
外籍顧問主導編採會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].start |
28868.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].end |
28870.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9957].text |
會影響判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].start |
28871.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].end |
28873.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9958].text |
結果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].start |
28873.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].end |
28875.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9959].text |
你會檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].start |
28875.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].end |
28877.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9960].text |
檢討是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].start |
28876.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].end |
28878.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9961].text |
不用這個外籍顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].start |
28878.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].end |
28880.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9962].text |
然後呢該不會把總編輯拍到國外去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].start |
28880.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].end |
28882.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9963].text |
這個是哪門子檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].start |
28882.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].end |
28884.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9964].text |
今天不是說今天我提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].start |
28884.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].end |
28886.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9965].text |
坦白講我提案對Times Pass |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].start |
28886.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].end |
28888.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9966].text |
我是抱持著 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].start |
28888.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].end |
28890.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9967].text |
很大的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].start |
28890.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].end |
28892.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9968].text |
這麼多年下來只呈出這麼多問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].start |
28892.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].end |
28894.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9969].text |
再三說要改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].start |
28894.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].end |
28896.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9970].text |
也不是一個單位說你們有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].start |
28896.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].end |
28898.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9971].text |
改進改進到最後結果 |
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28898.75 |
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28900.75 |
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結果呢 |
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28900.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].end |
28902.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9973].text |
結果背道而馳 |
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28903.38 |
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28905.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9974].text |
所以在這邊 |
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28905.38 |
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28907.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9975].text |
本席為什麼今天的提案 |
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28907.38 |
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28909.38 |
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簡略 |
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28909.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].end |
28911.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9977].text |
兩千萬元凍結百分之五十 |
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28911.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9978].end |
28913.79 |
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就是希望我們 |
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28913.79 |
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28915.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[9979].text |
Times Pass |
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28915.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].end |
28917.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9980].text |
你再大家都在盯著你的時候 |
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28917.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].end |
28919.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9981].text |
你自己總編輯 |
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28919.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].end |
28921.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9982].text |
還要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].start |
28921.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].end |
28923.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9983].text |
犯這樣的一個很奇怪的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].start |
28923.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].end |
28925.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9984].text |
那請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].start |
28925.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].end |
28927.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9985].text |
你如何讓社會公眾對於Times Pass |
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28927.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].end |
28929.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9986].text |
有信任度以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].start |
28933.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].end |
28935.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9987].text |
好我們不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].start |
28935.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].end |
28937.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[9988].text |
要不要再回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].start |
28939.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].end |
28941.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9989].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].start |
28941.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].end |
28943.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9990].text |
曹副執行長兼總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].start |
28943.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].end |
28945.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9991].text |
他是 |
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28945.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].end |
28947.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9992].text |
他的遠距工作 |
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28947.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].end |
28949.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9993].text |
是 |
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28949.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].end |
28953.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9994].text |
他的申請是經過公示的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].start |
28953.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].end |
28955.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9995].text |
還有規章上千 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].start |
28955.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].end |
28957.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9996].text |
合可 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].start |
28957.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].end |
28959.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9997].text |
所以這個整個程序是合規 |
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28959.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].end |
28961.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9998].text |
他並沒有所謂的 |
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28961.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].end |
28963.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9999].text |
特權的問題 |
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28963.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].end |
28965.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10000].text |
然後 |
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28965.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].end |
28967.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10001].text |
曹副總編輯 |
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28967.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].end |
28969.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10002].text |
曹副執行長 |
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28969.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].end |
28971.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10003].text |
他在他有豐富的國際採訪經驗 |
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28971.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].end |
28973.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10004].text |
而且有國際人脈 |
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28973.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].end |
28975.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10005].text |
我們在今年二月的時候 |
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28975.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].end |
28977.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10006].text |
新任的信務部經理就任 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].start |
28978.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].end |
28980.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10007].text |
所以我們希望 |
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28980.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].end |
28982.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10008].text |
Times Pass能夠跨出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].start |
28982.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].end |
28984.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10009].text |
讓我們的影響力 |
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28984.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].end |
28986.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10010].text |
還有我們的國際連結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].start |
28986.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].end |
28988.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10011].text |
能夠深化海外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].start |
28988.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].end |
28990.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10012].text |
一些網絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].start |
28990.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].end |
28992.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10013].text |
這是我們最重要的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].start |
28992.27 |
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28994.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10014].text |
所以他在這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].start |
28994.27 |
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28996.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10015].text |
遠距工作是被賦予 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].start |
28996.27 |
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28998.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10016].text |
重大的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].start |
28998.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].end |
29000.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10017].text |
那這些工作呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].start |
29000.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].end |
29002.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10018].text |
也都達成了一定的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].start |
29002.27 |
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29004.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10019].text |
這是跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].start |
29004.27 |
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29006.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[10020].text |
報告的謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].start |
29008.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10021].end |
29010.77 |
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我很快回應啊 |
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29010.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].end |
29012.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10022].text |
先不要講能不能說服我 |
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29012.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].end |
29014.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10023].text |
我覺得讓所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].start |
29014.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].end |
29016.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10024].text |
我們所有的公眾因為今天反正是直播嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].start |
29016.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].end |
29018.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10025].text |
大家聽聽看這個到底成不成 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].start |
29018.74 |
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29020.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10026].text |
照理說總編輯都拍到海外去快一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].start |
29022.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].end |
29024.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10027].text |
可見每個新聞媒體的做法都有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].start |
29025.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].end |
29027.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10028].text |
只要你出一國際新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].start |
29026.89 |
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29028.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10029].text |
中央市的總編輯第一個先拍到海外去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].start |
29028.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].end |
29030.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10030].text |
千萬不能待在台灣 |
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29030.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10031].end |
29032.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10031].text |
待在台灣就是獅子 |
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29033.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10032].end |
29035.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10032].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].start |
29036.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].end |
29038.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10033].text |
你今天把它任務做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].start |
29038.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].end |
29040.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10034].text |
你在這邊主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].start |
29040.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].end |
29042.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10035].text |
所有的總編輯台 |
| transcript.whisperx[10036].start |
29042.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10036].end |
29044.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10036].text |
他就是今天整個的新聞業務最核心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].start |
29047.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].end |
29049.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[10037].text |
整個台灣所有的編輯業務是圍著他轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].start |
29051.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].end |
29053.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10038].text |
就你告訴我最核心的業務我分給別人經理來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10039].start |
29053.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10039].end |
29055.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10039].text |
我總編輯跑到國外三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[10040].start |
29058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10040].end |
29060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10040].text |
那你跟我講一句是因為內部簽合過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10041].start |
29060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10041].end |
29062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[10041].text |
那你回答跟沒回答的差別到底在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10042].start |
29064.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10042].end |
29066.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10042].text |
我看不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10043].start |
29066.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10043].end |
29068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10043].text |
這是我的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10044].start |
29068.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10044].end |
29070.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10044].text |
如果說真的有意見的話就保留吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10045].start |
29075.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10045].end |
29077.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[10045].text |
好 部長先回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10046].start |
29078.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10046].end |
29080.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10046].text |
關於那個Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[10047].start |
29080.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10047].end |
29082.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10047].text |
我覺得我來文化部之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10048].start |
29082.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10048].end |
29084.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10048].text |
整個了解Taiwan Plus的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10049].start |
29084.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10049].end |
29086.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10049].text |
它會形成 |
| transcript.whisperx[10050].start |
29086.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10050].end |
29088.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10050].text |
Taiwan Plus始終從中央社 |
| transcript.whisperx[10051].start |
29088.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10051].end |
29090.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10051].text |
移到這個公共廣播集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10052].start |
29090.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10052].end |
29092.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10052].text |
它從頭到尾它的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10053].start |
29092.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10053].end |
29094.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10053].text |
這個定位沒有很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10054].start |
29094.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10054].end |
29096.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10054].text |
原來想像中我們有一個頻道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10055].start |
29096.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10055].end |
29098.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10055].text |
可以對國外發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[10056].start |
29098.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10056].end |
29100.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10056].text |
但是當你決定之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10057].start |
29100.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10057].end |
29102.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10057].text |
一下子沒有這麼多人才的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10058].start |
29102.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10058].end |
29104.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10058].text |
就大量用了外籍記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10059].start |
29104.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10059].end |
29106.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10059].text |
短期的訓練 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].start |
29106.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].end |
29108.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[10060].text |
那大家又覺得外籍記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10061].start |
29109.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10061].end |
29111.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10061].text |
報導東西又跟台灣沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].start |
29111.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].end |
29113.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[10062].text |
所以在大家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10063].start |
29114.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10063].end |
29116.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10063].text |
指責下最近大量 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].start |
29116.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].end |
29118.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10064].text |
更換主管據我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].start |
29118.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].end |
29120.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10065].text |
新聞部跟節目部都更換了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].start |
29120.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].end |
29122.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10066].text |
經理那兩個經理我都認識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10067].start |
29122.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10067].end |
29124.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10067].text |
就是公共電視原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10068].start |
29124.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10068].end |
29126.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10068].text |
一些資深的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10069].start |
29126.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10069].end |
29128.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10069].text |
的記者離開公共電視 |
| transcript.whisperx[10070].start |
29128.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10070].end |
29130.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10070].text |
再找回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10071].start |
29130.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10071].end |
29132.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10071].text |
我覺得曹育芬的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10072].start |
29132.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10072].end |
29134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10072].text |
我覺得我用判斷對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].start |
29134.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].end |
29136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10073].text |
也是因為在更換這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10074].start |
29136.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10074].end |
29138.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10074].text |
更換外籍主管的過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].start |
29138.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].end |
29140.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10075].text |
他們大概找不太到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].start |
29140.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].end |
29142.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10076].text |
合適的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].start |
29142.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].end |
29144.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10077].text |
整國籍的編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].start |
29144.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].end |
29146.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10078].text |
就屈就吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10079].start |
29146.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10079].end |
29148.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10079].text |
我覺得如果給我一點時間的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10080].start |
29148.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10080].end |
29150.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10080].text |
我真的很想去重新把台灣PLUS |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].start |
29150.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].end |
29152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10081].text |
定位 |
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29152.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10082].end |
29154.44 |
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因為你要了解到當初在中央社做不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10083].start |
29154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10083].end |
29156.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10083].text |
又遇到公網集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].start |
29157.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].end |
29159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10084].text |
好像也沒有辦法完全管到他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].start |
29159.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].end |
29161.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10085].text |
因為他連上班都不在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].start |
29162.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].end |
29164.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10086].text |
他的確是一個災難 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].start |
29165.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].end |
29167.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10087].text |
的確是個災難 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].start |
29167.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].end |
29169.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10088].text |
我覺得給我們一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10089].start |
29169.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10089].end |
29171.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10089].text |
我們再重新去了解這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10090].start |
29171.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10090].end |
29173.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10090].text |
組織我們可不可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].start |
29173.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].end |
29175.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10091].text |
組織的改變或者定位的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].start |
29175.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].end |
29177.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10092].text |
徹底解決他的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].start |
29177.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].end |
29179.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10093].text |
否則我們會一直繞在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].start |
29179.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].end |
29181.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10094].text |
外籍的記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10095].start |
29181.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10095].end |
29183.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10095].text |
然後把它換掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].start |
29183.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].end |
29185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10096].text |
百分之四十 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].start |
29185.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].end |
29187.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10097].text |
又換回本國記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].start |
29187.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].end |
29189.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10098].text |
我覺得我們是在裡面一直繞 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].start |
29189.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].end |
29191.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[10099].text |
我跟部長補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10100].start |
29192.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10100].end |
29194.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10100].text |
部長你剛剛說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].start |
29194.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].end |
29196.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10101].text |
我其實還是要肯定你 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].start |
29196.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].end |
29198.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10102].text |
就是你的用詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].start |
29198.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].end |
29200.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10103].text |
說真的還蠻直白的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].start |
29200.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].end |
29202.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[10104].text |
可是這新的一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].start |
29203.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].end |
29205.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10105].text |
我既然是災難一場 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].start |
29205.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].end |
29207.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10106].text |
我都覺得我的提案算是客氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].start |
29207.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].end |
29209.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10107].text |
十億 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].start |
29209.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].end |
29211.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10108].text |
我才減列兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].start |
29211.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].end |
29213.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[10109].text |
已經是客氣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].start |
29213.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].end |
29215.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10110].text |
我覺得真的如果這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].start |
29215.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].end |
29217.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10111].text |
你做不好先減列兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].start |
29217.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].end |
29219.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10112].text |
主要是先給個警惕 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].start |
29219.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].end |
29221.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10113].text |
真的做不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].start |
29221.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].end |
29223.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10114].text |
真的主管機關也要下定決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].start |
29223.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].end |
29225.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10115].text |
還要不要把這個公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].start |
29225.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].end |
29227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10116].text |
花在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].start |
29227.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].end |
29229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10117].text |
當然我只減列兩千萬不是把預算全砍 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].start |
29229.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].end |
29231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10118].text |
就代表說今天還是願意相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].start |
29231.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].end |
29233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10119].text |
部長那部長再來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].start |
29233.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].end |
29235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10120].text |
努力看看可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].start |
29235.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].end |
29237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10121].text |
很好部長已經認知到過去做法就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].start |
29237.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].end |
29239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10122].text |
定位不清造成的整個結構性 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].start |
29239.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].end |
29241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10123].text |
的一些一連串 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].start |
29241.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].end |
29243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10124].text |
很多的失誤都夾在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].start |
29243.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].end |
29245.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10125].text |
我還是跟部長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].start |
29245.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].end |
29247.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10126].text |
跟部長說部長你也懂媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].start |
29247.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].end |
29249.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10127].text |
非常懂媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].start |
29249.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].end |
29251.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10128].text |
我不知道是不是我的嘗試不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].start |
29251.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].end |
29253.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10129].text |
我真的是沒有看過一個總編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].start |
29253.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].end |
29255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10130].text |
可以外派三個月的我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].start |
29255.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].end |
29257.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10131].text |
真沒見過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].start |
29257.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].end |
29259.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10132].text |
總編輯位置有多重要你也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].start |
29259.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].end |
29261.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10133].text |
對總編輯不能坐任台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].start |
29261.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].end |
29263.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10134].text |
做為核心的骨幹這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].start |
29263.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].end |
29265.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10135].text |
我是不能理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].start |
29269.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].end |
29271.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10136].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].start |
29272.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].end |
29274.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10137].text |
我想說到Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].start |
29274.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].end |
29276.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10138].text |
我們大家都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].start |
29276.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].end |
29278.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10139].text |
監督的職責確實他在表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].start |
29278.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].end |
29280.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10140].text |
不夠達到我們原始的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].start |
29280.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].end |
29282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10141].text |
預期他的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].start |
29282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].end |
29284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10142].text |
確實如部長所說的他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].start |
29284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].end |
29286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10143].text |
定位要明確否則 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].start |
29286.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].end |
29288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10144].text |
恐怕未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].start |
29288.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].end |
29290.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10145].text |
都會面對到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].start |
29290.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].end |
29292.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10146].text |
他整個失衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].start |
29292.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].end |
29294.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10147].text |
或者是方向不明的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].start |
29294.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].end |
29296.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10148].text |
但我覺得我對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].start |
29296.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].end |
29298.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10149].text |
Taiwan Plus的督導跟期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].start |
29298.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].end |
29300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10150].text |
這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].start |
29300.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].end |
29302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10151].text |
一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].start |
29302.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].end |
29304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10152].text |
對於剛剛說的這一位編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].start |
29304.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].end |
29306.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10153].text |
他是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].start |
29306.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].end |
29308.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10154].text |
有常識在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].start |
29308.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].end |
29310.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10155].text |
的合理性我覺得那是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].start |
29310.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].end |
29312.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10156].text |
另外一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].start |
29312.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].end |
29314.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10157].text |
部長應當去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].start |
29314.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].end |
29316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10158].text |
當然就我出錢因為我不知道這一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].start |
29316.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].end |
29318.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10159].text |
我也是第一次聽到那個羅委員講到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].start |
29318.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].end |
29320.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10160].text |
作為一個像國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].start |
29320.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].end |
29322.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10161].text |
發聲的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].start |
29322.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].end |
29324.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10162].text |
他有派駐在外的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].start |
29324.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].end |
29326.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10163].text |
去強化國際鏈接 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].start |
29326.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].end |
29328.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10164].text |
我聽起來也沒有覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].start |
29328.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].end |
29330.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10165].text |
是不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].start |
29330.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].end |
29332.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10166].text |
但是他是不是長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].start |
29332.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].end |
29334.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10167].text |
在外的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].start |
29334.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].end |
29336.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10168].text |
他的工作績效的表現 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].start |
29336.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].end |
29338.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10169].text |
這是我比較在乎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].start |
29338.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].end |
29340.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10170].text |
所以說我覺得部長去了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].start |
29340.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].end |
29342.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10171].text |
這顯然您應當也沒有了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].start |
29342.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].end |
29344.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10172].text |
督導到這一位編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].start |
29344.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].end |
29346.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10173].text |
的工作狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].start |
29346.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].end |
29348.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10174].text |
但是我不會就我因為我目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].start |
29348.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].end |
29350.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10175].text |
沒有完整的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].start |
29350.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].end |
29352.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10176].text |
我也真的覺得要像國際發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].start |
29352.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].end |
29354.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10177].text |
有必要在外 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].start |
29354.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].end |
29356.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10178].text |
在國際間去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].start |
29356.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].end |
29358.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10179].text |
我基本上沒有覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].start |
29358.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].end |
29360.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10180].text |
這不對我坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].start |
29360.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].end |
29362.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10181].text |
我沒有辦法判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].start |
29362.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].end |
29364.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10182].text |
因為他是一個像國際發聲的平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].start |
29364.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].end |
29366.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10183].text |
我沒有辦法判斷那交給 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].start |
29366.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].end |
29368.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10184].text |
部長您去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].start |
29368.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].end |
29370.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10185].text |
是不是在他的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].start |
29370.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].end |
29372.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10186].text |
表現跟他的長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].start |
29372.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].end |
29374.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10187].text |
的工作服務的據點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].start |
29374.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].end |
29376.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10188].text |
上是不是可以再做更合宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].start |
29376.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].end |
29378.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10189].text |
的調整我想羅委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].start |
29378.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].end |
29380.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10190].text |
也是提出這樣子的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].start |
29380.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].end |
29382.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10191].text |
我覺得這個個人的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].start |
29382.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].end |
29384.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[10192].text |
您當去了解但是對於Taiwan Plus |
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29386.96 |
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的 |
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29386.87 |
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29388.87 |
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長期以來真的在我們手上 |
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29388.87 |
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29390.87 |
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去建置了這個平台 |
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那個表現我也是 |
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29392.87 |
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29394.87 |
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一句話我覺得恨鐵不成鋼 |
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29397.3 |
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29399.3 |
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我即使是執政黨委員我也期待 |
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29399.3 |
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29401.3 |
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Taiwan Plus能夠達到我們 |
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給預算給這個組織 |
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給使命 |
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的目標 |
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29409.95 |
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所以我們回到預算的處理 |
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29409.95 |
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29411.95 |
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我跟志祥委員溝通商量一下 |
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29411.95 |
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29413.95 |
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您的提案是 |
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29413.95 |
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29415.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10206].text |
簡列兩千萬沒關係我先 |
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29415.95 |
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29417.95 |
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沒關係啦那我先表達像這樣 |
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29417.95 |
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29419.95 |
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因為這是兩千萬 |
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29421.95 |
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而且現在其實已經七月了 |
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29423.95 |
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其實他的動支 |
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29425.95 |
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實在是也是很大的那個 |
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29426.83 |
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29428.83 |
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我個人是覺得刪減部分 |
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29428.83 |
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29430.83 |
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凍結部分讓你們給警惕 |
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29430.83 |
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29432.83 |
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我個人提案 |
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29432.83 |
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29434.83 |
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我可以接受刪一千萬 |
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29434.83 |
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29436.83 |
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動一千萬 |
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29436.99 |
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29438.99 |
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這是我的建議 |
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29438.99 |
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29440.99 |
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我也很想給Taiwan Plus一點嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[10219].start |
29440.99 |
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29442.99 |
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的監督所以刪一千萬 |
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29442.99 |
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29444.99 |
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動一千萬是我個人 |
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29444.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].end |
29446.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10221].text |
那看看大家的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10222].start |
29447.9 |
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29449.9 |
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好我先講我個人 |
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29449.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].end |
29451.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10223].text |
當然還要尊重委員會委員會還有其他委員 |
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29451.9 |
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29453.9 |
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剛剛文化部也來溝通 |
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29453.9 |
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29455.9 |
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我先直接說啦今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].start |
29455.9 |
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29457.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10226].text |
剛剛部長非常直白的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].start |
29457.9 |
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29459.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10227].text |
Taiwan Plus的問題這一點我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10228].start |
29459.9 |
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29461.9 |
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肯定的好所以因此 |
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29461.9 |
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29463.9 |
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我個人可以接受剛剛文化部 |
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29463.9 |
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29465.9 |
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來跟我溝通的就是 |
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29465.9 |
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29467.9 |
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簡列一千跟所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].start |
29467.9 |
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29469.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10232].text |
凍結一千那希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[10233].start |
29469.9 |
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29471.9 |
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你就做好你今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[10234].start |
29472.93 |
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29474.93 |
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該改就改改不掉就停 |
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29474.93 |
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29476.93 |
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就這樣子真的沒辦法做 |
| transcript.whisperx[10236].start |
29476.93 |
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29478.93 |
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就停損但是能改 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].start |
29478.93 |
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29480.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10237].text |
就好好改但是我先講是我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].start |
29480.93 |
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29482.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10238].text |
那其他委員什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].start |
29482.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].end |
29484.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10239].text |
讓其他委員繼續來表達以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].start |
29487.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].end |
29489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10240].text |
好因為我剛剛沒有溝通剛好我們兩個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].start |
29489.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].end |
29491.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10241].text |
居然想法是一樣我覺得我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10242].start |
29491.28 |
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29493.28 |
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可以接受就是刪一千 |
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29493.28 |
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29495.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10243].text |
動一千真的是給 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].start |
29495.28 |
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29497.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10244].text |
Taiwan Plus拜託大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].start |
29497.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].end |
29499.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10245].text |
做出成績我們很期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].start |
29499.28 |
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29501.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10246].text |
我們給支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].start |
29501.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].end |
29503.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10247].text |
好我也支持好動一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].start |
29503.28 |
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29505.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10248].text |
刪一千然後看看 |
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29505.49 |
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29507.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10249].text |
其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].start |
29506.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].end |
29508.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10250].text |
好這個我補充發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].start |
29508.92 |
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29510.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[10251].text |
因為你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].start |
29510.77 |
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29512.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[10252].text |
沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].start |
29513.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].end |
29515.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[10253].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].start |
29514.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].end |
29516.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10254].text |
我是印象很深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].start |
29516.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].end |
29518.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10255].text |
Taiwan Plus絕對不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].start |
29518.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].end |
29520.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10256].text |
今天第一天講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].start |
29520.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].end |
29522.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10257].text |
上次審預算也為了這件事情吵很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].start |
29522.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].end |
29524.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10258].text |
我想大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].start |
29524.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].end |
29526.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10259].text |
勾起一下回憶Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].start |
29526.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].end |
29528.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[10260].text |
的問題太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].start |
29529.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].end |
29531.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10261].text |
所以之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].start |
29531.22 |
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29533.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10262].text |
部長還非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].start |
29533.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].end |
29535.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[10263].text |
的努力捍衛那個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].start |
29535.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].end |
29537.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10264].text |
那我想這一次第二次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].start |
29538.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].end |
29540.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10265].text |
部長也覺得真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].start |
29540.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].end |
29542.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[10266].text |
沒有那個臉再繼續捍衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].start |
29543.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].end |
29545.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10267].text |
可是我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].start |
29545.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].end |
29547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10268].text |
我們真的要討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].start |
29547.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].end |
29549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10269].text |
這真的實在是太誇張 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].start |
29549.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].end |
29551.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10270].text |
誇張到我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].start |
29551.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].end |
29553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10271].text |
沒辦法跟人民交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].start |
29553.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].end |
29555.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10272].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].start |
29555.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].end |
29557.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10273].text |
我們先給 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].start |
29557.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].end |
29559.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[10274].text |
村州委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].start |
29559.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].end |
29561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10275].text |
其實我們對Taiwan Plus |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].start |
29561.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].end |
29563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10276].text |
真的是愛之深 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].start |
29563.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].end |
29565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10277].text |
責之切 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].start |
29565.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].end |
29567.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10278].text |
那我就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].start |
29568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].end |
29570.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10279].text |
我這邊是凍結兩千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].start |
29570.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].end |
29572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10280].text |
那就跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].start |
29572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].end |
29574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10281].text |
那個羅偉一樣就凍結一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].start |
29574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].end |
29576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10282].text |
那麼希望我們文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].start |
29576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].end |
29578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10283].text |
真的是在這個部分要加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].start |
29578.43 |
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29580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10284].text |
不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].start |
29580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].end |
29582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10285].text |
辜負 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].start |
29582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].end |
29584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10286].text |
都是台灣人民的納稅錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].start |
29584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].end |
29586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10287].text |
那一分 |
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29586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].end |
29588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10288].text |
每一分錢我們都是要花在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].start |
29588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].end |
29590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10289].text |
刀口上啦那請文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].start |
29590.43 |
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29592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10290].text |
在這個部分確實 |
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29592.43 |
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29594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10291].text |
是要做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].start |
29594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].end |
29596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10292].text |
一個改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].start |
29596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].end |
29598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10293].text |
謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].start |
29598.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].end |
29600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10294].text |
所以那個村村委員是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].start |
29600.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].end |
29602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10295].text |
那個病動一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].start |
29602.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].end |
29604.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10296].text |
不是一千加一千喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].start |
29606.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].end |
29608.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[10297].text |
變一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].start |
29608.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].end |
29610.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10298].text |
凍結一千 |
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29610.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].end |
29612.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10299].text |
一千加一千是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].start |
29612.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].end |
29614.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10300].text |
對啊對啊 |
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29614.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].end |
29616.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10301].text |
OK好 我們陳培喻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].start |
29616.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].end |
29618.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10302].text |
不好意思他剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].start |
29618.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].end |
29620.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10303].text |
對啊對啊 |
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29620.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].end |
29622.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10304].text |
他說病動一千 |
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29622.21 |
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29624.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10305].text |
沒有我剛剛問他是不是一千加一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].start |
29624.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].end |
29626.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10306].text |
蔡委員是要病動一千還動兩千 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].start |
29627.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10307].end |
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他是要動一千 |
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29629.73 |
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所以我剛剛問他是不是一千加一千 |
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29631.73 |
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他說對啊對啊 |
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29635.73 |
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我們先陳培喻委員 |
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29635.73 |
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29637.73 |
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沒關係他的發言你要尊重 |
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29637.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10312].end |
29639.73 |
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我剛剛問過人家嘛好不好再麻煩你 |
| transcript.whisperx[10313].start |
29639.73 |
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好 那個 |
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29641.73 |
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我就呼籲一下吳思亞委員說的 |
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就是動一千然後 |
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摔一千這樣 |
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那也謝謝部長有自己的 |
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想法跟說明啦 |
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那我是不是就也順便加碼就是 |
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之後的凍值 |
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29657.73 |
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是不是可以不需要請委員會同意 |
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是有教書面報告來就同 |
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就先可以了這樣好不好 |
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29663.73 |
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我就先提這個提議謝謝 |
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29665.84 |
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29667.84 |
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我們把預算處理我覺得要明確 |
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29667.84 |
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29669.84 |
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因為這一幕是包括影視 |
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29669.84 |
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音曲很多項 |
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但是剛剛我們聚焦的是 |
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29673.84 |
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29675.84 |
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羅志強委員他很明確的提出TaiwanPlus |
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29675.84 |
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的精進方案我們也支持 |
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29679.84 |
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所以刪跟動其實我認為 |
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29679.84 |
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29681.84 |
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是針對TaiwanPlus不要誤殺 |
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29681.84 |
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29683.84 |
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其他的影視音的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10334].start |
29683.84 |
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29685.84 |
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業務啦所以我覺得 |
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29685.84 |
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29687.84 |
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應當事就是TaiwanPlus |
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29687.84 |
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29689.84 |
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刪一千又動一千 |
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29689.84 |
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這樣好正確啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].start |
29691.84 |
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29693.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10338].text |
那第二件事情是我也呼嚇 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].start |
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29695.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10339].text |
再結合一下剛剛培育委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10340].start |
29695.84 |
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因為我像我自己 |
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29697.84 |
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29699.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10341].text |
從剛剛早上到現在每一案 |
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29699.84 |
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29701.84 |
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我提出監督然後經過說明 |
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29701.84 |
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29703.84 |
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那我多數是改成主決議 |
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29703.84 |
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29705.84 |
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可是我的主決議我個人 |
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29705.84 |
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29707.84 |
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我都是循我們過去的往例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10346].start |
29707.84 |
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29709.84 |
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書面報告來使得凍值 |
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29709.84 |
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29711.84 |
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書面報告來就可以凍值 |
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29713.84 |
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後來我是剛剛突然才發現主席 |
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29713.84 |
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29715.84 |
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好像在宣讀的時候才試的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].start |
29715.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10350].end |
29717.84 |
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都是每一筆都是變成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].start |
29717.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10351].end |
29719.84 |
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都是變成要審查之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].start |
29719.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].end |
29721.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10352].text |
才能凍值好我要跟主席 |
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29721.84 |
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29723.84 |
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做一下意見的交換 |
| transcript.whisperx[10354].start |
29723.84 |
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29725.84 |
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今年度比較特別 |
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29725.84 |
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29727.84 |
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因為今年度我們現在在審的其實是 |
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29727.84 |
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29729.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10356].text |
就去年該審完的預算 |
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29729.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].end |
29731.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10357].text |
照理講已經年終了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10358].start |
29731.84 |
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29733.84 |
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所以說如果今天主席對於 |
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29733.84 |
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29735.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10359].text |
所有的主決議您的才是 |
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29735.84 |
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29737.84 |
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第一個您的才是不是我個人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].start |
29737.84 |
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29739.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10361].text |
提案那我們可以溝通 |
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29739.84 |
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29741.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10362].text |
好我個人是認為書面報告 |
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29741.84 |
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29743.84 |
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就可以凍值在這個當下這一年的 |
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29743.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].end |
29745.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10364].text |
預算要特別這樣處理是有原因的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].start |
29745.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].end |
29747.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10365].text |
因為已經七月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].start |
29747.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].end |
29749.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10366].text |
如果說每一個案子主決議 |
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29749.84 |
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29751.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10367].text |
非常多每一案都要經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].start |
29751.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].end |
29753.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10368].text |
教育文化委員會同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].start |
29753.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].end |
29755.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10369].text |
審查再凍值 |
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29755.84 |
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29757.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10370].text |
其實有一點它等於是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].start |
29757.84 |
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29759.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10371].text |
實質的刪減 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].start |
29759.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].end |
29761.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10372].text |
因為已經剩下半年可以用了 |
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29762.8 |
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29764.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10373].text |
然後你半年之後每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].start |
29764.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].end |
29766.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10374].text |
今天有幾百個案四百多個案 |
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29766.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].end |
29768.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10375].text |
我看改成主決議大概也超過四百案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].start |
29768.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].end |
29770.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10376].text |
每一個案都要再送進 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].start |
29770.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].end |
29772.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10377].text |
教文會再審查 |
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29772.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10378].end |
29774.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10378].text |
再同意再同值那真的就是 |
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29776.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10379].text |
實質刪減了所以我請主席 |
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29776.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].end |
29778.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10380].text |
就是在您今天的才是 |
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29778.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].end |
29780.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10381].text |
的部分我們回到過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].start |
29780.8 |
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29782.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10382].text |
我們的慣例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].start |
29782.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].end |
29784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10383].text |
主決議它確實分兩種 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].start |
29784.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].end |
29786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10384].text |
一種是專案報告之後使得凍值 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].start |
29786.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].end |
29788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10385].text |
那個是特別高level的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].start |
29788.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].end |
29790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10386].text |
可是今天大家經過 |
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29790.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].end |
29792.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10387].text |
討論之後都接受他們的 |
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29792.68 |
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29794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10388].text |
說明所以像我覺得 |
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29794.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].end |
29796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10389].text |
我的理解包括我自己的提案都是 |
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29796.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].end |
29798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10390].text |
我改成主決議 |
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29798.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].end |
29800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10391].text |
提出書面報告就可以凍值 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].start |
29800.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].end |
29802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10392].text |
這是我真的要懇請主席 |
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29802.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].end |
29804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10393].text |
因為今年的狀況也特別不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].start |
29804.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].end |
29806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10394].text |
要不然四百多案 |
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29806.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].end |
29808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10395].text |
我們來不及審 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].start |
29808.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].end |
29810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10396].text |
它等於是實質的刪減 |
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29810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].end |
29812.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10397].text |
這個事情姿勢挺大 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].start |
29815.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].end |
29817.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10398].text |
主決議分兩種一種是要專案報告 |
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29817.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].end |
29819.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10399].text |
之後才能夠精同意 |
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29819.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].end |
29821.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10400].text |
對不對分兩個層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].start |
29821.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].end |
29823.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10401].text |
一個是專案報告或 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].start |
29823.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].end |
29825.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10402].text |
書面報告一個是 |
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29825.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].end |
29827.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10403].text |
送來就可以凍值或者是審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].start |
29827.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].end |
29829.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10404].text |
之後才可以凍值 |
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29829.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].end |
29831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10405].text |
我們今天多數都是書面 |
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29831.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].end |
29833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10406].text |
報告之後使得凍值 |
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29833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].end |
29835.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10407].text |
這真的是要懇請主席 |
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29835.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].end |
29837.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10408].text |
要重新去恢復我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].start |
29837.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].end |
29839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10409].text |
原始的主張就我的 |
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29839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].end |
29841.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10410].text |
每一個案子我都是書面報告 |
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29841.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].end |
29843.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10411].text |
之後就可以凍值否則真的是 |
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29843.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].end |
29845.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10412].text |
實質刪減因為現在已經一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].start |
29845.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].end |
29847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10413].text |
我們下個會期也不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].start |
29847.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].end |
29849.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10414].text |
也不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].start |
29849.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].end |
29851.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10415].text |
全部光排這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].start |
29851.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].end |
29853.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10416].text |
四百多個案子審查再凍值 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].start |
29853.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].end |
29855.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10417].text |
就年底了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].start |
29855.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].end |
29857.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10418].text |
這個一定要跟主席做這樣子的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].start |
29857.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].end |
29859.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10419].text |
所以您可以統合在中正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].start |
29859.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].end |
29861.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10420].text |
把上面的這些主決議的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].start |
29861.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].end |
29863.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10421].text |
再做一個清楚的釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].start |
29863.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].end |
29865.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10422].text |
這懇請主席聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].start |
29865.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].end |
29867.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10423].text |
我的這個建議謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].start |
29868.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].end |
29870.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10424].text |
好首先因為有委員提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].start |
29870.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].end |
29872.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10425].text |
這個部分的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].start |
29872.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].end |
29874.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10426].text |
所以我特別跟大家講解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].start |
29874.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].end |
29876.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10427].text |
我們在這個裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].start |
29876.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].end |
29878.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10428].text |
都很詳細的登記哪一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].start |
29878.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].end |
29880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10429].text |
改成主決議那我都會正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].start |
29880.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].end |
29882.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10430].text |
都會在念除以上個案之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].start |
29884.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].end |
29886.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[10431].text |
合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].start |
29886.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].end |
29888.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10432].text |
凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].start |
29887.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].end |
29889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10433].text |
凍結完依凍結的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].start |
29889.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].end |
29891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10434].text |
該凍結的要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].start |
29891.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].end |
29893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10435].text |
要經書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].start |
29893.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].end |
29895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10436].text |
經委員同意才可凍值 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].start |
29895.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].end |
29897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10437].text |
這個是我早上的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].start |
29897.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].end |
29899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10438].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].start |
29899.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].end |
29901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10439].text |
不會有委員擔心的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].start |
29901.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].end |
29903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10440].text |
主決議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].start |
29903.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].end |
29905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10441].text |
還要再提出書面報告以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].start |
29905.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].end |
29907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10442].text |
再經由委員同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].start |
29907.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].end |
29909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10443].text |
我們只針對被凍結的案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].start |
29909.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].end |
29911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10444].text |
所以不會有四百多案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].start |
29911.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].end |
29913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10445].text |
我只要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].start |
29913.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].end |
29915.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10446].text |
我們只針對被凍結的案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].start |
29915.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].end |
29917.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10447].text |
所以不會有四百多案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].start |
29917.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].end |
29919.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10448].text |
這個跟委員先做一個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].start |
29919.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].end |
29921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10449].text |
釐清不要誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].start |
29921.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].end |
29923.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10450].text |
因為一有誤會的話大家就沒有再聚焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].start |
29923.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].end |
29925.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10451].text |
沒有我們凍結案哪有到幾百案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].start |
29929.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].end |
29931.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10452].text |
我們先你算一下我們凍結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].start |
29931.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].end |
29933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10453].text |
到幾有幾百案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].start |
29933.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].end |
29935.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10454].text |
基本上今天最多的凍結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].start |
29935.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].end |
29937.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10455].text |
就早上那個六案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].start |
29937.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].end |
29939.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10456].text |
八百而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].start |
29939.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].end |
29941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10457].text |
那再來第二個要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].start |
29941.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].end |
29943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10458].text |
我們當然知道已經到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].start |
29943.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].end |
29945.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10459].text |
年終了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].start |
29945.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].end |
29947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10460].text |
已經有一些預算已經需要使用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].start |
29947.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].end |
29949.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10461].text |
可是問題是大家要特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].start |
29949.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].end |
29951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10462].text |
知道今天凍結的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].start |
29951.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].end |
29953.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10463].text |
都是幾億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].start |
29953.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].end |
29955.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10464].text |
預算凍結百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].start |
29955.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].end |
29957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10465].text |
凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].start |
29957.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].end |
29959.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10466].text |
沒有到是過半的沒有到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].start |
29959.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].end |
29961.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10467].text |
直接會癱瘓不諱的這一點也跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].start |
29961.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].end |
29963.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10468].text |
做一個特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].start |
29963.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].end |
29965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10469].text |
就我所了解目前可能凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].start |
29965.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].end |
29967.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10470].text |
案數大概可能因為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].start |
29967.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].end |
29969.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[10471].text |
合併凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].start |
29968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].end |
29970.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[10472].text |
所以大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].start |
29971.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].end |
29973.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10473].text |
可能不到十案吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].start |
29973.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].end |
29975.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10474].text |
不到十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].start |
29975.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].end |
29977.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10475].text |
我覺得大家還是確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10476].start |
29977.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10476].end |
29979.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10476].text |
你很詳細我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[10477].start |
29979.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10477].end |
29981.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10477].text |
因為剛剛我們突然 |
| transcript.whisperx[10478].start |
29981.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10478].end |
29983.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10478].text |
像我覺得Taiwan plus這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10479].start |
29983.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10479].end |
29985.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10479].text |
我可以認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].start |
29985.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].end |
29987.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10480].text |
量分層次嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].start |
29987.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].end |
29989.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10481].text |
專案報告或書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].start |
29989.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].end |
29991.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10482].text |
然後經同意之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].start |
29991.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].end |
29993.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10483].text |
使得凍結或者是送來報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].start |
29993.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].end |
29995.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10484].text |
就可以凍結其實它是四個層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].start |
29995.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].end |
29997.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10485].text |
沒關係誰案我們這一案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].start |
29997.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].end |
29999.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10486].text |
但我覺得之前的是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].start |
29999.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].end |
30001.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10487].text |
都是我們正常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].start |
30001.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].end |
30003.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10488].text |
理解就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].start |
30003.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].end |
30005.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10489].text |
送書面報告就可以凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].start |
30005.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].end |
30007.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10490].text |
這今年的狀況特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].start |
30007.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].end |
30009.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10491].text |
我建議是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].start |
30009.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].end |
30011.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10492].text |
現在我們處理這一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].start |
30011.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].end |
30013.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10493].text |
Taiwan plus是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].start |
30013.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].end |
30015.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10494].text |
經同意之後使得凍結我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].start |
30015.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].end |
30017.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10495].text |
這是給他非常高規格的嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].start |
30017.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].end |
30019.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10496].text |
的要求就這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].start |
30019.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].end |
30021.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10497].text |
因為Taiwan plus對不起你說這一案要怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].start |
30021.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].end |
30023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10498].text |
凍結我同意是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].start |
30023.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].end |
30025.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10499].text |
最高規格的要經 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].start |
30025.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].end |
30027.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10500].text |
審查同意才得凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].start |
30027.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].end |
30029.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10501].text |
這是最高規格我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].start |
30029.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].end |
30031.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10502].text |
但是之前的那些案我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].start |
30031.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].end |
30033.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10503].text |
在這個大家討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].start |
30033.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].end |
30035.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10504].text |
的過程當中我的感受我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].start |
30035.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].end |
30037.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10505].text |
覺得送書面報告就可以凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].start |
30037.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].end |
30039.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10506].text |
好不好跟自己做這樣的偷偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].start |
30039.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].end |
30041.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10507].text |
我們現在計算出來喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].start |
30041.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].end |
30043.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10508].text |
早上大概凍結的是17個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].start |
30043.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].end |
30045.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10509].text |
沒有到400案喔請您放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].start |
30045.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].end |
30047.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10510].text |
那再來第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].start |
30047.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].end |
30049.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10511].text |
因為我主決議的話我們就確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].start |
30049.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].end |
30051.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10512].text |
就是經主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].start |
30051.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].end |
30053.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10513].text |
的部分書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].start |
30053.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].end |
30055.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10514].text |
就可以使得凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].start |
30055.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].end |
30057.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10515].text |
但這17案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].start |
30057.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].end |
30059.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10516].text |
不好意思我也已經做了宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].start |
30059.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].end |
30061.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10517].text |
就是要經 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].start |
30061.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].end |
30063.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10518].text |
書面報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].start |
30063.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].end |
30065.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10519].text |
同意才使得凍結我不能再 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].start |
30065.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].end |
30067.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10520].text |
更改 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].start |
30067.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].end |
30069.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10521].text |
會議還沒結束前是可以更改的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].start |
30069.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].end |
30071.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10522].text |
因為我們真的沒有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].start |
30071.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].end |
30073.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10523].text |
你們的每一個宣讀是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].start |
30073.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].end |
30075.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10524].text |
沒有大家一起討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].start |
30075.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].end |
30077.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10525].text |
我已經做宣告了就不能夠回頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].start |
30077.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].end |
30079.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10526].text |
在討論了不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].start |
30079.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].end |
30081.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10527].text |
我們即使在下一次會議確認一事入都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].start |
30081.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].end |
30083.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10528].text |
調整所以我們現在提出更正 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].start |
30083.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].end |
30085.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10529].text |
你提出你的更正但不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].start |
30085.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].end |
30087.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10530].text |
那你要接受大家的意見啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].start |
30087.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].end |
30089.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10531].text |
我再提出更正你個人就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].start |
30089.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].end |
30091.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10532].text |
因為我早上已經宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].start |
30091.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].end |
30093.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10533].text |
有些委員都已經離開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].start |
30093.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].end |
30095.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10534].text |
他們都已經有得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].start |
30095.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].end |
30097.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10535].text |
這樣子的一個他們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].start |
30097.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].end |
30099.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10536].text |
能夠更謹慎的去面對這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].start |
30099.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].end |
30101.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[10537].text |
我們都坐在這裡審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].start |
30103.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].end |
30105.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10538].text |
17個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].start |
30105.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].end |
30107.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10539].text |
我覺得也是會因為你真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].start |
30107.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].end |
30109.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[10540].text |
就等於實質刪減了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].start |
30110.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].end |
30112.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10541].text |
真的等於實質刪減了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].start |
30112.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].end |
30114.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10542].text |
因為要送來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].start |
30114.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].end |
30116.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10543].text |
報告還要再審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].start |
30116.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].end |
30118.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10544].text |
再同意即使是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].start |
30118.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].end |
30120.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10545].text |
17個案子請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].start |
30120.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].end |
30122.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10546].text |
蕉瑋你要排幾次的會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].start |
30122.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].end |
30124.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10547].text |
而且下個會期的蕉瑋是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].start |
30124.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].end |
30126.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10548].text |
他要把他的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].start |
30126.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].end |
30128.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10549].text |
我們不是專案報告使得動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].start |
30128.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].end |
30130.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10550].text |
我們是書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].start |
30130.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].end |
30132.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10551].text |
精美的那你就變得審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].start |
30132.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].end |
30134.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10552].text |
你就得審查你就得排案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].start |
30134.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].end |
30136.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10553].text |
要要要你需要排 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].start |
30136.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].end |
30138.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10554].text |
一個預算會議審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].start |
30138.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].end |
30140.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10555].text |
然後那些書面報告的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].start |
30140.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].end |
30142.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10556].text |
才可以動這是需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].start |
30142.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].end |
30144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10557].text |
我負責的部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].start |
30144.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].end |
30146.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10558].text |
基本上我們都是下這一個決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].start |
30146.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].end |
30148.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10559].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].start |
30148.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].end |
30150.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10560].text |
往前推的運動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].start |
30150.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].end |
30152.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10561].text |
跟國科會故宮其實蠻多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].start |
30152.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].end |
30154.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[10562].text |
都是這樣子的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].start |
30154.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].end |
30156.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10563].text |
好那因為今天我所理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].start |
30156.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].end |
30158.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10564].text |
我們文化部的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].start |
30158.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].end |
30160.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10565].text |
被凍結的數是比過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].start |
30160.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].end |
30162.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10566].text |
比教育部運動部都多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].start |
30164.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].end |
30166.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10567].text |
所以從這個會議上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].start |
30166.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].end |
30168.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10568].text |
我們要釐清這個處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].start |
30168.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].end |
30170.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10569].text |
我們非常理性在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].start |
30170.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].end |
30172.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10570].text |
溝通喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].start |
30172.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].end |
30174.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10571].text |
因為文化部今天被凍結的17個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].start |
30174.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].end |
30176.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10572].text |
比我們教育部比我們運動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].start |
30176.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].end |
30178.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10573].text |
都還要多案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].start |
30178.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].end |
30180.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10574].text |
而且金額更高 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].start |
30180.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].end |
30182.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10575].text |
我們先確認數字好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].start |
30181.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].end |
30183.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10576].text |
那這個案子就是1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].start |
30183.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].end |
30185.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10577].text |
剛剛講嘛砍1000動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].start |
30185.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].end |
30187.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10578].text |
但我是請您要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].start |
30187.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].end |
30189.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10579].text |
之前的那17個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].start |
30189.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].end |
30191.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10580].text |
我們再確認一下大家共同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].start |
30191.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].end |
30193.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10581].text |
還沒散會之前都可以做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].start |
30193.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].end |
30195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10582].text |
還沒有散會之前對於主席的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].start |
30195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].end |
30197.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10583].text |
才是有疑義我們都可以提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].start |
30197.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].end |
30199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10584].text |
當然你可以提啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].start |
30199.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].end |
30201.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10585].text |
對我們都可以那主席請 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].start |
30201.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].end |
30203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10586].text |
採納我們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].start |
30204.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].end |
30206.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10587].text |
那也可以聽聽其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].start |
30206.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].end |
30208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10588].text |
因為真的變成實質刪減了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].start |
30208.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].end |
30210.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10589].text |
那真的變成實質刪減了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].start |
30210.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].end |
30212.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[10590].text |
因為今年的狀況特殊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].start |
30212.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].end |
30214.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10591].text |
你還要下會期再排案再排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].start |
30214.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].end |
30216.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10592].text |
然後一案一案17案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].start |
30216.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].end |
30218.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10593].text |
那你要開幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].start |
30220.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].end |
30222.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[10594].text |
真的真的文化預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].start |
30224.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].end |
30226.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10595].text |
得來不易到現在都還沒有1% |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].start |
30226.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].end |
30228.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10596].text |
的國家政府總預算的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].start |
30228.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].end |
30230.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10597].text |
這是我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].start |
30230.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].end |
30232.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10598].text |
那您聽聽其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].start |
30233.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].end |
30235.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10599].text |
好我們就96先處理的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].start |
30235.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].end |
30237.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10600].text |
我還是要再提出說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].start |
30237.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].end |
30239.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10601].text |
我剛剛看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].start |
30239.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].end |
30241.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10602].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].start |
30241.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].end |
30243.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10603].text |
他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].start |
30243.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].end |
30245.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10604].text |
31000動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].start |
30245.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].end |
30247.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10605].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].start |
30247.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].end |
30249.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10606].text |
90 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].start |
30249.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].end |
30251.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10607].text |
110案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].start |
30251.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].end |
30253.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10608].text |
他110案是31000動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].start |
30253.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].end |
30255.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10609].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].start |
30255.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].end |
30257.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10610].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].start |
30258.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].end |
30260.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10611].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].start |
30260.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].end |
30262.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10612].text |
90案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].start |
30262.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].end |
30264.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10613].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].start |
30264.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].end |
30266.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10614].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].start |
30266.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].end |
30268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10615].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].start |
30268.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].end |
30270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10616].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].start |
30270.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].end |
30272.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10617].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].start |
30272.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].end |
30274.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10618].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].start |
30274.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].end |
30276.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10619].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].start |
30276.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].end |
30278.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10620].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].start |
30278.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].end |
30280.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10621].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].start |
30280.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].end |
30282.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10622].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].start |
30282.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].end |
30284.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10623].text |
90案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].start |
30284.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].end |
30286.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10624].text |
那我自己的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].start |
30261.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].end |
30263.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[10625].text |
我是動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].start |
30263.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].end |
30265.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10626].text |
你是動100啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].start |
30265.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].end |
30267.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10627].text |
動100 對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].start |
30267.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].end |
30269.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[10628].text |
唉 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].start |
30270.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].end |
30272.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[10629].text |
來順著委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].start |
30272.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].end |
30274.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10630].text |
我再確認一下我剛剛那個是動 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].start |
30274.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].end |
30276.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10631].text |
1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].start |
30276.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].end |
30278.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10632].text |
動1000啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].start |
30278.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].end |
30280.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10633].text |
我一直擔心說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].start |
30280.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].end |
30282.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10634].text |
我1000萬加 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].start |
30282.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].end |
30284.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10635].text |
羅偉1000萬變2000萬不是吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].start |
30284.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].end |
30286.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10636].text |
1000萬嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].start |
30286.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].end |
30288.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10637].text |
沒關係你只要講清楚就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].start |
30288.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].end |
30290.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10638].text |
但是我不怕你放回放 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].start |
30290.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].end |
30292.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10639].text |
我剛剛是真的問你是不是1000加1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].start |
30292.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].end |
30294.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10640].text |
你說對啊對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].start |
30294.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].end |
30296.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10641].text |
那你現在正式宣告好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].start |
30296.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].end |
30298.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10642].text |
那我就是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].start |
30298.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].end |
30300.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10643].text |
個人動1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].start |
30301.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].end |
30303.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10644].text |
病動1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].start |
30303.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].end |
30305.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10645].text |
好大家文字還是要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].start |
30305.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].end |
30307.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10646].text |
我個人動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].start |
30307.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].end |
30309.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10647].text |
這個的話就 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].start |
30309.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].end |
30311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10648].text |
沒有病動兩個字的話我們就是拉開 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].start |
30311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].end |
30313.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10649].text |
分開談好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].start |
30313.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].end |
30315.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10650].text |
我們是一直病動嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].start |
30315.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].end |
30317.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10651].text |
我知道他後面補病動所以我提醒大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].start |
30317.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].end |
30319.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10652].text |
個人動跟病動要講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].start |
30319.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].end |
30321.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10653].text |
主席我的98案114案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].start |
30321.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].end |
30323.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10654].text |
主決議改成主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].start |
30326.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].end |
30328.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10655].text |
好把它登記起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].start |
30328.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].end |
30330.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10656].text |
那我這邊100再加上去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].start |
30330.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].end |
30332.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[10657].text |
我個人動 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].start |
30334.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].end |
30336.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10658].text |
好那現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].start |
30336.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].end |
30338.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10659].text |
有刪除1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].start |
30338.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].end |
30340.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10660].text |
簡列1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].start |
30341.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].end |
30343.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10661].text |
動結1001 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].start |
30343.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].end |
30345.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[10662].text |
潘博遠有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].start |
30344.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].end |
30346.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10663].text |
我們再確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].start |
30346.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].end |
30348.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10664].text |
刪減1000再動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].start |
30348.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].end |
30350.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10665].text |
是110案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].start |
30350.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].end |
30352.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10666].text |
針對台灣PLUS嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].start |
30352.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].end |
30354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10667].text |
那昭偉另外額外在100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].start |
30354.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].end |
30356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10668].text |
針對影視音這裡的動結100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].start |
30356.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].end |
30358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10669].text |
你們可以去調整嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].start |
30358.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].end |
30360.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10670].text |
對不對是這樣子的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].start |
30360.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].end |
30364.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[10671].text |
是啊 還是昭偉您的也是要針對台灣PLUS |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].start |
30366.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].end |
30368.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10672].text |
是別的案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].start |
30368.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].end |
30370.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10673].text |
那我要跟他分開來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].start |
30370.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].end |
30372.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10674].text |
那如果這樣釐清的話就針對台灣PLUS |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].start |
30372.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].end |
30374.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10675].text |
刪1000動1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].start |
30374.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].end |
30376.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10676].text |
然後羅昭偉這個針對影視 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].start |
30376.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].end |
30378.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10677].text |
流行業發展業務動結 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].start |
30378.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].end |
30380.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[10678].text |
100萬這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].start |
30380.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].end |
30382.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10679].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].start |
30381.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].end |
30383.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10680].text |
那剛剛台灣PLUS我覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].start |
30383.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].end |
30385.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10681].text |
經同意以後使得動之我接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].start |
30385.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].end |
30387.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10682].text |
但其他的案子我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].start |
30387.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].end |
30389.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10683].text |
就是書面報告就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].start |
30389.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].end |
30391.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[10684].text |
就回到我剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].start |
30391.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].end |
30393.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[10685].text |
看其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].start |
30394.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].end |
30396.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[10686].text |
45億動100 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].start |
30397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].end |
30399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10687].text |
你自己提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].start |
30399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].end |
30401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10688].text |
沒有大家支持文化嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].start |
30401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].end |
30403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10689].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].start |
30403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].end |
30405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10690].text |
手下已經留情了但是真的要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].start |
30405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].end |
30407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10691].text |
給改善計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].start |
30407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].end |
30409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10692].text |
但現階段你要我在這邊處理說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].start |
30409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].end |
30411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10693].text |
書面報告就可以直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].start |
30411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].end |
30413.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[10694].text |
動之對不起我不接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].start |
30414.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].end |
30416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10695].text |
因為我剛剛已經講的很清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].start |
30416.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].end |
30418.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10696].text |
每一年你補助的國片 |
| transcript.whisperx[10697].start |
30418.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10697].end |
30420.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10697].text |
每一年喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].start |
30420.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].end |
30422.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10698].text |
你賠的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].start |
30422.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].end |
30430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10699].text |
賠823萬賠897萬賠997萬賠1169萬賠1437萬賠1782萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].start |
30430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].end |
30432.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10700].text |
再加羅志祥委員今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].start |
30432.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].end |
30434.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10701].text |
今年度所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].start |
30434.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].end |
30436.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[10702].text |
該影片又賠更多錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].start |
30436.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].end |
30438.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[10703].text |
我們要的是金金計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].start |
30440.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].end |
30442.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10704].text |
那你告訴我你書面報告一來就可以動 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].start |
30442.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].end |
30444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10705].text |
那萬一我不同意你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].start |
30444.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].end |
30446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10706].text |
金金計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].start |
30446.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].end |
30448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10707].text |
那不是等於又打水漂 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].start |
30448.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].end |
30450.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10708].text |
對人民沒有辦法交代嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].start |
30449.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].end |
30451.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10709].text |
那你提出更好的方案你明天提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].start |
30451.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].end |
30453.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10710].text |
你六日提出來給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].start |
30453.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].end |
30455.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10711].text |
我都一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].start |
30455.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].end |
30457.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10712].text |
等待你但如果你要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].start |
30457.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].end |
30459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10713].text |
拖到半年後提出來那是你的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].start |
30459.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].end |
30461.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10714].text |
權益嘛所以我每一次做決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].start |
30461.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].end |
30463.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10715].text |
的時候我都講不要因為被動100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].start |
30463.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].end |
30465.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10716].text |
覺得閒錢少 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].start |
30465.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].end |
30467.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10717].text |
那你就不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].start |
30467.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].end |
30469.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10718].text |
想辦法跟我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].start |
30469.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].end |
30471.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10719].text |
稍微我現在在討論不是金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].start |
30471.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].end |
30473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10720].text |
的多寡是今年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].start |
30473.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].end |
30475.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10721].text |
已經壓縮到過了半年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].start |
30477.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].end |
30479.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10722].text |
那您自己的這一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].start |
30479.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].end |
30481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10723].text |
因為我們剛剛講的是那 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].start |
30481.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].end |
30483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10724].text |
1000萬大家有共識嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].start |
30483.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].end |
30485.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[10725].text |
那稍微的這個100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].start |
30486.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].end |
30488.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10726].text |
我尊重招偽要動啊但我覺得需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].start |
30488.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].end |
30490.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[10727].text |
就是整幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].start |
30491.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].end |
30493.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[10728].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].start |
30494.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].end |
30496.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10729].text |
那就書面報告時的動機還是稍微也堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].start |
30496.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].end |
30498.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[10730].text |
他要審查才能動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].start |
30501.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].end |
30503.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10731].text |
對阿對阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].start |
30503.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].end |
30505.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10732].text |
然後羅委員的是110 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].start |
30507.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].end |
30509.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10733].text |
110 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].start |
30509.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].end |
30511.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10734].text |
所以我們是分開的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].start |
30511.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].end |
30513.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10735].text |
他處理他那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].start |
30513.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].end |
30515.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[10736].text |
我處理影視音的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].start |
30515.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].end |
30517.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10737].text |
稍微的意思是他是這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].start |
30517.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].end |
30519.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10738].text |
好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].start |
30519.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].end |
30521.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10739].text |
那他自己寫的他的第幾案我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].start |
30521.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].end |
30523.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[10740].text |
對阿就分開啊分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].start |
30523.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].end |
30525.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10741].text |
稍微稍後一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].start |
30525.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].end |
30527.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10742].text |
招偽的是第90案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].start |
30529.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].end |
30531.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10743].text |
招偽的是第 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].start |
30531.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].end |
30533.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10744].text |
等一下招偽的是那個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].start |
30533.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].end |
30535.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10745].text |
我們就各做各的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10746].start |
30535.43 |
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羅志祥委員做他的110案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].start |
30537.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].end |
30539.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10747].text |
那我做我的90案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].start |
30539.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].end |
30541.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[10748].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].start |
30545.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].end |
30547.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10749].text |
好啦那招偽您的這一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].start |
30547.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].end |
30549.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10750].text |
您要專案報告時的動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].start |
30549.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].end |
30551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10751].text |
沒有書面報告金委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].start |
30551.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].end |
30553.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10752].text |
同意後動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].start |
30553.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].end |
30555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10753].text |
好那這個案現在開始大家都理解到 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].start |
30555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].end |
30557.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10754].text |
我們等一下會勝出 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].start |
30557.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].end |
30559.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10755].text |
好那這個招偽有獎金 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].start |
30559.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].end |
30561.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10756].text |
45億動100 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].start |
30561.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].end |
30563.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10757].text |
我們沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].start |
30563.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].end |
30565.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10758].text |
那之前那我剛剛跟您請示的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].start |
30565.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].end |
30567.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10759].text |
之前那十幾案的處理呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].start |
30567.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].end |
30569.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10760].text |
因為我們真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].start |
30569.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].end |
30571.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10761].text |
基本上其他的委員都離開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].start |
30571.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].end |
30573.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10762].text |
我想當時大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].start |
30573.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].end |
30575.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[10763].text |
還是會安心這樣子的一個宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].start |
30576.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].end |
30578.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10764].text |
那我們大家文化部門大家就要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].start |
30578.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].end |
30580.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10765].text |
你們等於今天的動幾案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].start |
30580.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].end |
30582.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10766].text |
都是被實質刪減的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].start |
30582.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].end |
30584.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10767].text |
如果您要說這是實質刪減的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].start |
30584.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].end |
30586.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10768].text |
我尊重您的言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].start |
30586.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].end |
30588.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10769].text |
但我剛剛講的第一它不是400案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].start |
30588.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].end |
30590.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10770].text |
第二17案還減1案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].start |
30590.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].end |
30592.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10771].text |
17案還減1案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].start |
30592.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].end |
30594.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10772].text |
因為我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].start |
30594.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].end |
30596.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10773].text |
第一幕的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].start |
30596.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].end |
30598.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10774].text |
來你只要給我看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].start |
30598.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].end |
30600.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10775].text |
這是我的意見我的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].start |
30600.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].end |
30602.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10776].text |
18案減1案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].start |
30602.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].end |
30604.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10777].text |
17案減1案總共是17案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].start |
30604.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].end |
30606.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10778].text |
17案我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].start |
30606.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].end |
30608.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10779].text |
是要經書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].start |
30608.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].end |
30610.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[10780].text |
經委員同意使得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].start |
30611.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].end |
30613.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[10781].text |
因為我可以舉個例子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].start |
30616.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].end |
30618.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10782].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].start |
30618.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].end |
30620.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10783].text |
譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].start |
30620.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].end |
30622.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10784].text |
有很多如果要往前翻啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].start |
30622.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].end |
30624.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10785].text |
我不好意思我不是故意的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].start |
30624.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].end |
30626.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10786].text |
我剛好拿到我手上翻到這一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].start |
30626.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].end |
30628.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10787].text |
像那個志祥委員你的76案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].start |
30628.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].end |
30630.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10788].text |
你自己寫的就是書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].start |
30630.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].end |
30632.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10789].text |
就得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].start |
30632.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].end |
30634.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10790].text |
我換言之說每一個委員在上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].start |
30634.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].end |
30636.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10791].text |
審查的每一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].start |
30636.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].end |
30638.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10792].text |
剛剛有的委員就是這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].start |
30638.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].end |
30640.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10793].text |
羅志祥委員的案子他也寫提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].start |
30640.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].end |
30642.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10794].text |
就得動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].start |
30642.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].end |
30644.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10795].text |
可是主席您的從頭到尾17個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].start |
30644.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].end |
30646.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10796].text |
都是要審查之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].start |
30646.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].end |
30648.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10797].text |
才能動之 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].start |
30648.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].end |
30650.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10798].text |
跟提出報告後就得動之是不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].start |
30650.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].end |
30652.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10799].text |
那今天還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].start |
30652.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].end |
30654.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10800].text |
今天還沒有散會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].start |
30654.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].end |
30656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10801].text |
所以我才發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].start |
30656.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].end |
30658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10802].text |
那我們的案子呢我們再跟您提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].start |
30658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].end |
30660.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10803].text |
這樣的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].start |
30661.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].end |
30663.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[10804].text |
我們是病動的是決意制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].start |
30664.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].end |
30666.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10805].text |
那我們做在現場的委員都不是委員嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].start |
30666.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].end |
30668.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10806].text |
不是啊因為已經決議完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].start |
30668.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].end |
30670.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10807].text |
就不要回過頭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].start |
30670.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].end |
30672.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10808].text |
因為會議還沒有結束啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].start |
30672.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].end |
30674.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10809].text |
在今天會議還沒有結束裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].start |
30674.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].end |
30676.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10810].text |
裡頭我們發現這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].start |
30676.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].end |
30678.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10811].text |
您宣讀上的跟我們的理解不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].start |
30678.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].end |
30680.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[10812].text |
我們提出來討論不行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].start |
30682.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].end |
30684.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10813].text |
可以你可以討論後面的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].start |
30684.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].end |
30686.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10814].text |
前面的已經宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].start |
30686.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].end |
30688.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10815].text |
那是您個人的宣告跟我們的理解不同啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].start |
30688.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].end |
30690.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10816].text |
我就代表這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].start |
30690.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].end |
30692.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10817].text |
我想這個經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].start |
30692.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].end |
30694.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10818].text |
團議的經過已經大家協商的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].start |
30694.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].end |
30696.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10819].text |
來我先處理一下事情喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].start |
30696.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].end |
30698.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10820].text |
我們現在因為待會呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].start |
30698.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].end |
30700.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10821].text |
主席我是這個echo5c |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].start |
30700.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].end |
30702.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10822].text |
因為剛剛cio說echo5c |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].start |
30702.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].end |
30704.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10823].text |
不好意思因為我要先處理事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].start |
30704.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].end |
30706.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10824].text |
因為我們待會要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].start |
30706.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].end |
30708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10825].text |
給大家用餐喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].start |
30708.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].end |
30710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10826].text |
那有需要便當的話可以來登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].start |
30710.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].end |
30712.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10827].text |
那我們今天的話呢是採 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].start |
30712.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].end |
30714.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10828].text |
登記制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].start |
30714.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].end |
30716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10829].text |
我們就不主動採買 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].start |
30716.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].end |
30718.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[10830].text |
因為有些人不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].start |
30718.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].end |
30720.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10831].text |
那我們不要浪費錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].start |
30720.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].end |
30722.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10832].text |
那有要登記便當的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].start |
30722.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].end |
30724.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10833].text |
麻煩跟我們議事人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].start |
30724.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].end |
30726.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10834].text |
我們是建議就趕快審查吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].start |
30726.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].end |
30728.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10835].text |
但是剛剛是要我們最後可以再處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].start |
30728.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].end |
30730.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10836].text |
那是你的言論自由 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].start |
30730.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].end |
30732.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10837].text |
有人學堂低有人要吃便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].start |
30732.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].end |
30734.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10838].text |
議事人員請我要宣告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].start |
30734.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].end |
30736.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[10839].text |
尊重一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].start |
30737.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].end |
30739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10840].text |
不需要為了一個便當在那邊吵架吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].start |
30739.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].end |
30741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10841].text |
所以我說大家登記制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].start |
30741.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].end |
30743.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10842].text |
你有需要的話你記得來登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].start |
30743.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].end |
30745.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[10843].text |
我們不要一次性採買這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].start |
30748.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].end |
30750.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10844].text |
還要登記制好快喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].start |
30751.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].end |
30753.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10845].text |
阿不然你要全部買嗎現場全部買嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].start |
30753.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].end |
30755.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10846].text |
阿如果沒吃有剩10怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].start |
30758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].end |
30760.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10847].text |
好還是請委員提案不要登記制也沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].start |
30762.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].end |
30764.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10848].text |
委員有要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].start |
30765.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].end |
30767.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10849].text |
我們趕快審 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].start |
30767.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].end |
30769.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10850].text |
審完就不需要放飯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].start |
30769.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].end |
30771.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10851].text |
我們加快審了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].start |
30771.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].end |
30773.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10852].text |
那就登記制嘛好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].start |
30773.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].end |
30775.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10853].text |
不要我登記制你也要有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].start |
30775.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].end |
30777.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[10854].text |
有意見你又不願意提出你的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].start |
30777.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].end |
30779.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[10855].text |
好陳培議委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].start |
30779.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].end |
30781.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10856].text |
因為我對訂便當沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].start |
30781.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].end |
30783.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10857].text |
我覺得不要讓大家去登記訂便當真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].start |
30783.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].end |
30785.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10858].text |
我們加速審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].start |
30785.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].end |
30787.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10859].text |
那委員會可以採買一定的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].start |
30787.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].end |
30789.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10860].text |
莊惠他們都很有經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].start |
30789.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].end |
30791.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10861].text |
大概什麼樣的數量有需要的人可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].start |
30791.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].end |
30793.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10862].text |
你要官員這裡去登記便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].start |
30793.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].end |
30795.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10863].text |
大家審這個很怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].start |
30795.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].end |
30797.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10864].text |
沒關係阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].start |
30797.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].end |
30799.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10865].text |
所以你提案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].start |
30799.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].end |
30801.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10866].text |
那有吳思耀委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].start |
30801.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].end |
30803.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10867].text |
不需要登記制 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].start |
30803.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].end |
30805.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10868].text |
那我們就請議事人員依照過往的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].start |
30805.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].end |
30807.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10869].text |
我們就直接採買 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].start |
30807.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].end |
30809.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10870].text |
依照吳思耀委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].start |
30809.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].end |
30811.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10871].text |
我們繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].start |
30811.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].end |
30813.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10872].text |
莊惠你很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].start |
30813.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].end |
30815.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10873].text |
什麼時候你都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].start |
30815.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].end |
30817.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10874].text |
你可以才是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].start |
30817.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].end |
30819.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10875].text |
依照吳思耀委員意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].start |
30819.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].end |
30821.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10876].text |
我只跟您提醒不要讓官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].start |
30821.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].end |
30823.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10877].text |
現在審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].start |
30823.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].end |
30825.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10878].text |
我不講便當的問題我想要趕快審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].start |
30825.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].end |
30827.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10879].text |
好我趕快審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].start |
30827.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].end |
30829.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[10880].text |
我們趕快審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].start |
30828.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].end |
30830.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[10881].text |
我們趕快審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].start |
30831.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].end |
30833.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10882].text |
人家提醒我我做家這樣子你也不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].start |
30833.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].end |
30835.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10883].text |
我們趕快審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].start |
30835.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].end |
30837.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[10884].text |
拜託不要這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].start |
30837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].end |
30839.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10885].text |
陳培宇委員請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].start |
30839.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].end |
30841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10886].text |
好因為剛剛這個是我提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].start |
30841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].end |
30843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10887].text |
那如果按照委員你剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].start |
30843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].end |
30845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10888].text |
那些不在的委員說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].start |
30845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].end |
30847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10889].text |
不能被推翻可是因為剛我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].start |
30847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].end |
30849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10890].text |
志祥委員也在嘛那現在在場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].start |
30849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].end |
30851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10891].text |
就是下午進到會場繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].start |
30851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].end |
30853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10892].text |
審查預算的吳佩宇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].start |
30853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].end |
30855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10893].text |
蔡春筹委員秀寶 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].start |
30855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].end |
30857.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10894].text |
玉琴委員CIA委員志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].start |
30857.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].end |
30859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10895].text |
還有我本人陳培宇委員也都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].start |
30859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].end |
30861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10896].text |
主席你也在那假設那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].start |
30861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].end |
30863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10897].text |
離開不論是去做什麼其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].start |
30863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].end |
30865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10898].text |
公務或者是其他個人事務的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].start |
30865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].end |
30867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10899].text |
他們如果對這件事情有任何意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].start |
30867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].end |
30869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10900].text |
我也不確定他們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].start |
30869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].end |
30871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10901].text |
可不可以即時趕快表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].start |
30871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].end |
30873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10902].text |
在我們今天散會之前所以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].start |
30873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].end |
30875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10903].text |
我在建議我們剛剛那個提議可不可以先暫時 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].start |
30875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].end |
30877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10904].text |
保留如果到散會前 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].start |
30877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].end |
30879.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10905].text |
再委員回來那我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].start |
30879.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].end |
30881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10906].text |
再來討論但是我會先希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].start |
30881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].end |
30883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10907].text |
主席可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].start |
30883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].end |
30885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10908].text |
參考一下我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].start |
30885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].end |
30887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10909].text |
CIA委員剛剛那個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].start |
30887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].end |
30889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10910].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].start |
30889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].end |
30891.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10911].text |
就是書面報告就得動機 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].start |
30891.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].end |
30893.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10912].text |
好那 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].start |
30893.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].end |
30895.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[10913].text |
我們今天這樣書幕OK啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].start |
30896.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].end |
30898.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[10914].text |
那我們就來處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].start |
30900.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].end |
30902.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[10915].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].start |
30902.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].end |
30904.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[10916].text |
好那我因為我們這一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].start |
30905.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].end |
30907.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10917].text |
我們還有下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].start |
30907.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].end |
30909.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10918].text |
下一節啦我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].start |
30909.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].end |
30911.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[10919].text |
整幕一起處理啦我們繼續往下討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].start |
30914.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].end |
30916.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10920].text |
改為主決議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].start |
30916.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].end |
30918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10921].text |
9194 9798 100 104 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].start |
30918.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].end |
30920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10922].text |
105 106 107 109 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].start |
30920.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].end |
30922.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[10923].text |
114 118 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].start |
30924.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].end |
30926.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10924].text |
還有我的99 99103 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].start |
30926.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].end |
30928.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[10925].text |
主決議謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].start |
30929.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].end |
30931.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[10926].text |
99103 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].start |
30931.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].end |
30933.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10927].text |
99103 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].start |
30933.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].end |
30935.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[10928].text |
還有陳培喻的125 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].start |
30937.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].end |
30939.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[10929].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].start |
30940.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].end |
30942.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10930].text |
125主席謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].start |
30942.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].end |
30944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10931].text |
好 處以99103 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].start |
30944.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].end |
30946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10932].text |
125 改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].start |
30946.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].end |
30948.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[10933].text |
處以上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].start |
30949.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].end |
30953.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[10934].text |
我們繼續把這個第五幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].start |
30954.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].end |
30956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10935].text |
討論完第二節 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].start |
30956.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].end |
30958.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[10936].text |
整幕再一起來討論數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].start |
30959.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].end |
30961.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10937].text |
那第二節影視及 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].start |
30961.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].end |
30963.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10938].text |
流行音樂推動的輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].start |
30963.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].end |
30965.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10939].text |
提案號是119-134 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].start |
30965.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].end |
30967.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10940].text |
請繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].start |
30967.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].end |
30969.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[10941].text |
好 羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].start |
30971.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].end |
30973.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10942].text |
我的提案121 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].start |
30973.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].end |
30975.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10943].text |
剛剛跟文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].start |
30975.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].end |
30977.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10944].text |
已經有達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].start |
30977.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].end |
30979.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10945].text |
所以我就改為凍結1000萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].start |
30979.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].end |
30981.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[10946].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].start |
30986.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].end |
30988.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[10947].text |
其他委員還有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].start |
30989.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].end |
30991.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[10948].text |
陳培喻委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].start |
30996.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].end |
30999.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10949].text |
我們是到第幾案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].start |
30999.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].end |
31001.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[10950].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].start |
31003.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].end |
31005.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10951].text |
119-134 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].start |
31005.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].end |
31007.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10952].text |
我的提案是 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].start |
31007.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].end |
31009.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10953].text |
126 129 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].start |
31009.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].end |
31011.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10954].text |
那我就129來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].start |
31011.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].end |
31013.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10955].text |
這個我真的要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].start |
31013.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].end |
31015.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10956].text |
公視來注意有沒有一個紀錄片真實邊緣 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].start |
31015.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].end |
31017.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10957].text |
這個內容是有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].start |
31017.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].end |
31019.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10958].text |
在這個影視行業 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].start |
31019.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].end |
31021.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10959].text |
這個性騷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].start |
31021.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].end |
31023.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10960].text |
這個內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].start |
31023.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].end |
31025.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10961].text |
但是公視在 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].start |
31025.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].end |
31027.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10962].text |
做社群行銷的時候在IG上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].start |
31027.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].end |
31029.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10963].text |
有二次剪輯了一個宣傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].start |
31029.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].end |
31031.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10964].text |
影片 |
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的剪輯的方式 |
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去除掉原本這個敘事的脈絡 |
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而且因為原片它是有一個 |
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敘事剪輯的手法 |
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所以它就是讓 |
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當中的一個備受訪者 |
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特別的被辨識 |
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然後被標註 |
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也造成二次的傷害 |
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這個個案之後 |
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31053.59 |
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我們紀錄片的從業人員職業公會 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].start |
31053.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10976].end |
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有要求 |
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未來公視在做 |
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31057.59 |
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31059.59 |
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紀錄片的這個行銷 |
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31059.59 |
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31061.59 |
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當你需要做二次剪輯的時候 |
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31061.59 |
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必須要有第一個 |
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| transcript.whisperx[10981].end |
31065.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10981].text |
讓創作團隊要有知情權 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].start |
31065.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10982].end |
31067.59 |
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因為你們這個剪輯連導演都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].start |
31067.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].end |
31069.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10983].text |
沒有經由人家同意然後受訪者也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[10984].start |
31069.59 |
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再來在合約裡面 |
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31073.59 |
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未來要有明確的規範 |
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31073.59 |
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31075.59 |
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所以這個我有提出一個凍結案 |
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31075.59 |
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31077.59 |
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這個我認為這個問題 |
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31077.59 |
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31079.59 |
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不是只是個案而已很嚴重 |
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31081.59 |
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所以紀錄片公會已經講了 |
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31081.59 |
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31083.59 |
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這不是第一次發生了請你們務必 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].start |
31083.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10991].end |
31085.59 |
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務必未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].start |
31085.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].end |
31087.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10992].text |
不要再有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].start |
31087.59 |
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31089.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10993].text |
錯誤因為這個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].start |
31089.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].end |
31091.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10994].text |
我要告訴部長這個你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].start |
31091.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].end |
31093.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10995].text |
後來算下架可是這個 |
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31093.59 |
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31095.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10996].text |
造成受訪者二次傷害的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[10997].start |
31095.59 |
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31097.59 |
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他已經有超過一千次的 |
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31097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].end |
31099.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10998].text |
分享跟一千次的儲存 |
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31099.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[10999].end |
31101.59 |
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導致於這個受訪者在 |
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31101.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].end |
31103.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11000].text |
真實生活當中走在路上 |
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31103.59 |
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31105.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11001].text |
開始有人會認出他來 |
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31105.59 |
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31107.59 |
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問他說你是不是 |
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31107.59 |
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31109.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11003].text |
有這樣子的經歷這個對他 |
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31109.59 |
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31111.59 |
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本人造成莫大的這個心理 |
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31113.59 |
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的負擔跟傷害所以這個我要拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].start |
31113.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[11006].end |
31115.59 |
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一下一定要重視這個事情 |
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31120.2 |
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31122.2 |
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好我有三個案子 |
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31124.2 |
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那首先我先來談 |
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31124.2 |
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31126.2 |
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123案 |
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31128.2 |
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123案是公視基金會 |
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31130.2 |
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的一個營運治理 |
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31132.2 |
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那公共媒體它最重要是 |
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31132.2 |
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31134.2 |
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治理的穩定還有 |
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31136.2 |
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獨立運作跟行政中立 |
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31136.2 |
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31138.2 |
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那依公共 |
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31140.2 |
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電視法第13條 |
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31140.2 |
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31142.2 |
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公視基金會設董事會 |
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31142.2 |
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31144.2 |
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及監察 |
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監察人會議 |
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他呢這個 |
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31150.03 |
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31152.03 |
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這個應該這些人 |
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31154.03 |
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產生之後呢 |
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31156.03 |
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應該由行政院來提名 |
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31156.03 |
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31158.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11024].text |
然後提交審查委員會 |
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31158.03 |
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31160.03 |
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基因全體委員會 |
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31162.03 |
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三分之二以上 |
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31164.03 |
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同意後並請 |
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31166.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11028].text |
行政院長能夠來聘認 |
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31166.03 |
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31168.03 |
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那在這裡 |
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31168.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11030].end |
31170.03 |
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我們希望就是說 |
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31170.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11031].end |
31172.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11031].text |
聘認了以後我們希望 |
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31172.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11032].end |
31174.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11032].text |
文化部部長能夠帶著 |
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31174.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11033].end |
31176.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11033].text |
這個名單來到立法院 |
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31176.03 |
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31178.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11034].text |
來做一個溝通那因為 |
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31178.03 |
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31180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11035].text |
我們 |
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31180.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11036].end |
31182.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11036].text |
要求行政部門能夠 |
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31182.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11037].end |
31184.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11037].text |
提前來充分 |
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31186.03 |
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的一個溝通明記 |
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31186.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].end |
31188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11039].text |
跨黨派跟社會多元的一個 |
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31188.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11040].end |
31190.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11040].text |
共識那確保公共 |
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31190.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11041].end |
31192.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11041].text |
媒體的一個治理 |
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31192.03 |
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31194.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11042].text |
不被任何單一 |
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31194.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].end |
31196.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11043].text |
政黨或是單一部會或是 |
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31196.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].end |
31198.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11044].text |
單一政治力量的一個壟斷 |
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31198.03 |
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31200.03 |
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所以呢在這裡呢 |
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31200.03 |
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31202.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11046].text |
我呼籲李部長能夠率先 |
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31202.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].end |
31204.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11047].text |
來建立這樣的一個制度 |
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31204.03 |
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31206.03 |
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那未來呢不管是哪一個 |
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31206.03 |
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31208.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11049].text |
政黨來執政的時候呢 |
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31208.03 |
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31210.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11050].text |
這個制度建立以後呢 |
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31210.03 |
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31212.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11051].text |
那以後呢就沒有在 |
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31212.03 |
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31214.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11052].text |
這麼多的意見 |
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31214.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].end |
31216.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11053].text |
我們就循著這個制度來走 |
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31216.03 |
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31218.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11054].text |
這是 |
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31218.03 |
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31220.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11055].text |
我的看法 |
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31220.03 |
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31222.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11056].text |
這是123案 |
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31222.03 |
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31224.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11057].text |
然後 |
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31231.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].end |
31233.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11058].text |
然後132案 |
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31233.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].end |
31235.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11059].text |
是針對央管國際傳播 |
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31237.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11060].text |
任務的一個重要 |
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31237.06 |
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31239.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11061].text |
但是國際傳播呢不能只靠 |
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31239.06 |
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31241.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11062].text |
編預算必須來看到 |
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31241.06 |
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31243.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11063].text |
塑狀還有平台 |
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31245.06 |
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跟轉型的一個成果 |
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31245.06 |
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31247.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11065].text |
所以我們希望呢文化部能夠 |
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31247.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].end |
31249.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11066].text |
提出完整的一個數位的轉型 |
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31249.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].end |
31251.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11067].text |
跟財務報告 |
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31251.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].end |
31253.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11068].text |
那這個案子呢我是凍結300萬 |
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31253.06 |
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31255.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11069].text |
那那個另外 |
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31255.06 |
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31257.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11070].text |
134案呢是 |
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31257.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].end |
31259.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11071].text |
國營中心保存的一個影視 |
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31259.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].end |
31261.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11072].text |
記憶值得 |
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31261.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].end |
31263.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11073].text |
是值得支持的 |
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31263.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].end |
31265.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11074].text |
那這個國營中心它負責的是 |
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31265.06 |
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31267.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11075].text |
視聽的一個等長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].start |
31267.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].end |
31269.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11076].text |
修復數位化推廣公共交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].start |
31269.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].end |
31271.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11077].text |
的一個任務既有文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].start |
31271.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].end |
31273.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11078].text |
保存的一個必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].start |
31273.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].end |
31275.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11079].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].start |
31275.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].end |
31277.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11080].text |
在這裡呢我們也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].start |
31277.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].end |
31279.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11081].text |
支持的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].start |
31279.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].end |
31281.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11082].text |
那這個案呢我是凍 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].start |
31281.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].end |
31283.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11083].text |
300萬那我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].start |
31283.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].end |
31285.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11084].text |
聽說明之後呢我們再來結議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].start |
31285.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].end |
31287.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11085].text |
以上的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].start |
31288.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].end |
31290.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11086].text |
好 回應委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].start |
31293.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].end |
31295.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[11087].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].start |
31295.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].end |
31297.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11088].text |
好 這個部分我是三個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].start |
31297.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].end |
31299.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11089].text |
127、128跟131 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].start |
31299.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].end |
31301.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11090].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].start |
31301.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].end |
31303.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11091].text |
在127 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].start |
31303.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].end |
31305.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11092].text |
的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].start |
31305.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].end |
31307.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11093].text |
那還是支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].start |
31307.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].end |
31309.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11094].text |
這個台語台製 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].start |
31309.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].end |
31311.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11095].text |
的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].start |
31311.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].end |
31313.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11096].text |
那包含戲劇、綜藝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].start |
31313.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].end |
31315.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11097].text |
還有這個兒少跟藝文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].start |
31315.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].end |
31317.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11098].text |
那我想這個台語台其實也肩負了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].start |
31317.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].end |
31319.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11099].text |
非常重大的一個任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].start |
31319.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].end |
31321.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11100].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].start |
31321.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].end |
31323.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11101].text |
王航部這邊其實也有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].start |
31323.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].end |
31325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11102].text |
跟我們做說明喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].start |
31325.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].end |
31327.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11103].text |
那這個部分我改主決議沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].start |
31327.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].end |
31329.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11104].text |
那128的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].start |
31329.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].end |
31331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11105].text |
我想小公事其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].start |
31331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].end |
31333.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11106].text |
我們都對它期待很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].start |
31333.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].end |
31335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11107].text |
期待很深 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].start |
31335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].end |
31337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11108].text |
那我也從過去一直到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].start |
31337.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].end |
31339.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11109].text |
其實都很注意這個小公事的一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].start |
31339.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].end |
31341.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11110].text |
尤其是我們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].start |
31342.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].end |
31344.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11111].text |
自製的這個兒童節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].start |
31344.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].end |
31346.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11112].text |
我們知道其實要投入的資源很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].start |
31346.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].end |
31348.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11113].text |
那尤其是兒少相關的一個節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].start |
31348.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].end |
31350.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11114].text |
在自製的整個所有的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].start |
31350.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].end |
31352.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11115].text |
不管目前還是幕後其實它比一般的節目 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].start |
31352.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].end |
31354.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11116].text |
更難製作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].start |
31354.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].end |
31356.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11117].text |
那這個部分當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].start |
31356.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].end |
31358.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11118].text |
有精進的一個空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].start |
31358.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].end |
31360.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11119].text |
但我想這個小公事其實也 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].start |
31360.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].end |
31362.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11120].text |
很用力的在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].start |
31362.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].end |
31364.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11121].text |
那也很努力的在往前推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].start |
31364.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].end |
31366.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11122].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].start |
31366.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].end |
31368.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11123].text |
要給予一些鼓勵啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].start |
31368.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].end |
31370.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11124].text |
所以這個部分我就不堅持凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].start |
31370.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].end |
31372.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11125].text |
那也改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].start |
31372.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].end |
31374.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11126].text |
那在131的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].start |
31374.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].end |
31376.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11127].text |
有提到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].start |
31376.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].end |
31378.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11128].text |
台語影視人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].start |
31378.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].end |
31380.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11129].text |
那這個部分其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].start |
31380.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].end |
31382.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11130].text |
也有來跟我做一些說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].start |
31382.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].end |
31384.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11131].text |
那我想呢之後就是這些人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].start |
31384.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].end |
31386.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11132].text |
他們進入業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].start |
31386.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].end |
31388.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11133].text |
的這個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[11134].start |
31388.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11134].end |
31390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11134].text |
或者是直接在業界從事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11135].start |
31390.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11135].end |
31392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11135].text |
跟台語相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11136].start |
31392.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11136].end |
31394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11136].text |
不管是在節目的製作或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11137].start |
31394.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11137].end |
31396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11137].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11138].start |
31396.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11138].end |
31398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11138].text |
產學的一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11139].start |
31398.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11139].end |
31400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11139].text |
那如果有後續更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11140].start |
31400.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11140].end |
31402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11140].text |
一些人才的追蹤跟回饋的一些機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[11141].start |
31402.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11141].end |
31404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11141].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11142].start |
31404.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11142].end |
31406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11142].text |
也請 |
| transcript.whisperx[11143].start |
31406.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11143].end |
31408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11143].text |
文化部這邊也特別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11144].start |
31408.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11144].end |
31410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11144].text |
來做一下這個後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11145].start |
31410.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11145].end |
31412.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11145].text |
一些影視發展的一個量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[11146].start |
31412.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11146].end |
31414.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11146].text |
那這個部分也有跟我做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11147].start |
31414.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11147].end |
31416.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11147].text |
這個部分我可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].start |
31416.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].end |
31418.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11148].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11149].start |
31418.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11149].end |
31420.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11149].text |
不用再經由什麼我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[11150].start |
31420.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11150].end |
31422.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11150].text |
直接改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11151].start |
31422.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11151].end |
31424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11151].text |
然後有一些經驗的報告來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].start |
31424.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].end |
31426.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11152].text |
就可以了好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11153].start |
31430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11153].end |
31432.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11153].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11154].start |
31431.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11154].end |
31433.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[11154].text |
還有委員要提案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].start |
31433.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].end |
31435.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[11155].text |
那我們現在就一起來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11156].start |
31445.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[11156].end |
31447.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[11156].text |
不好意思要登記一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].start |
31447.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].end |
31449.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[11157].text |
等他寫一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].start |
31451.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].end |
31453.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[11158].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11159].start |
31457.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11159].end |
31459.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11159].text |
現在要幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11160].start |
31460.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11160].end |
31462.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11160].text |
不用說明天 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].start |
31462.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].end |
31464.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[11161].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11162].start |
31465.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11162].end |
31467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11162].text |
現在怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].start |
31467.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].end |
31469.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11163].text |
我不知道在幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11164].start |
31469.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11164].end |
31471.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11164].text |
現在在登記便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[11165].start |
31471.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11165].end |
31473.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11165].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11166].start |
31472.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[11166].end |
31474.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[11166].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].start |
31474.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].end |
31476.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11167].text |
第119到134 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].start |
31476.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].end |
31478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11168].text |
改為主決議的有119 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].start |
31478.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].end |
31480.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[11169].text |
122 124 125 127 128 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].start |
31482.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].end |
31484.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11170].text |
123還沒有做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].start |
31486.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].end |
31488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11171].text |
沒有啊我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].start |
31488.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].end |
31490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11172].text |
我先把它改成主決議的先念 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].start |
31490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].end |
31492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11173].text |
我的沒有念你 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].start |
31492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].end |
31494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11174].text |
119 122 124 125 127 128 131 133 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].start |
31494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].end |
31496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11175].text |
那123的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].start |
31496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].end |
31498.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11176].text |
麻煩請文化部來回覆一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].start |
31511.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].end |
31513.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[11177].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].start |
31521.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].end |
31523.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[11178].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].start |
31524.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].end |
31526.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11179].text |
好那個關於委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].start |
31526.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].end |
31528.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11180].text |
蔡委員這邊有提到的三個關注的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].start |
31528.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].end |
31530.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11181].text |
之前其實在會前 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].start |
31530.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].end |
31532.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11182].text |
也有向委員的辦公室還有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].start |
31532.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].end |
31534.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11183].text |
做過說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].start |
31534.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].end |
31536.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11184].text |
那關於公視的部分其實我們有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].start |
31536.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].end |
31538.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11185].text |
持續的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].start |
31538.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].end |
31540.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11186].text |
那委員希望我們能夠多加溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].start |
31540.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].end |
31542.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11187].text |
跟多加協調我們也繼續會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].start |
31542.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].end |
31544.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11188].text |
持續努力的多加溝通協調 |
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那另外剛剛委員有提到對於 |
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央廣的數位轉型的部分我們在 |
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會前的時候有接同團隊 |
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去向委員這邊做一下說明 |
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那委員其實很希望央廣能夠面對數位轉型 |
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的一個狀態 |
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能夠有一些新的作為跟做法 |
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那能夠增加一些 |
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自籌那這一項 |
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央廣這邊他其實是肩負了一個 |
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與一般商業媒體經營 |
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定位不同他其實是有一定 |
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的一個國際傳播任務那這一項 |
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央廣其實近年來也已經持續 |
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在針對因為其實國際廣播 |
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形勢的發展他有一些轉變 |
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確實對於央廣的 |
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一些在廣播業務的拓展上造成 |
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壓力所以其實央廣近年 |
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其實也針對短促的情形他們 |
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也有持續的在力行各項的節流 |
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措施包括其實 |
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他央廣其實有二十種語言 |
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的這樣子的團隊優勢他 |
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其實也會尋求國內民間企業的合作 |
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來尋尋爭取跨平台的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11215].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11215].text |
授權收益那我們也會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[11216].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11216].end |
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委員的關注跟指示央廣 |
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這邊內部一定會在持續的去 |
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尋求各種可能開拓 |
| transcript.whisperx[11219].start |
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裁員的方式還有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11220].start |
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整個廣播人才跟國際傳播 |
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任務的落實上面再繼續努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11222].start |
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那另外委員同時 |
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也詢問到我們的行政法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11224].start |
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也就是電影中心這一塊 |
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那一樣是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11226].start |
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其實電影中心他其實有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11227].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11227].end |
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對於影視廳文化的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[11228].start |
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的一個公共任務那希望影視廳 |
| transcript.whisperx[11229].start |
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中心能夠更加的重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11230].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11230].text |
自己的不管是在會員 |
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人數的一個維持還有 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11232].text |
影廳上作因為其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11233].start |
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影視廳中心是有一個 |
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場館在的希望他能夠繼續 |
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在影廳上作的部分做努力 |
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那這一項除了會員說明 |
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的部分我們也中心 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11238].text |
這一塊未來其實他的會員 |
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人數他其實是有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[11240].start |
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邊際效應的狀況啦但是其實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11241].start |
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過去到現在他也持續增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[11242].start |
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到了三千人以上 |
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那也會持續的在持續 |
| transcript.whisperx[11244].start |
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成長那其實會員還是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11245].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11245].text |
看黏著度他其實目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[11246].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11246].end |
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的基本會員黏著度其實也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11247].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11247].text |
蠻這幾年也都維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11248].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11248].text |
的蠻好的就是基本會員943 |
| transcript.whisperx[11249].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11249].text |
人進屆會員200 |
| transcript.whisperx[11250].start |
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2420人 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11251].text |
其實總共3000多人他大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[11252].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11252].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11252].text |
這幾年能夠儘量的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11253].end |
31674.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11253].text |
維持這個黏著度讓這個會員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11254].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11254].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11254].text |
人數不要往下掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11255].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11255].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11255].text |
那其他的相關的工作包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[11256].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11256].text |
權力盤點還有電影 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].start |
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31682.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11257].text |
說話的工作還有他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11258].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11258].text |
場館營運上作率的部分因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11259].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11259].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11259].text |
影星藝中心他為處 |
| transcript.whisperx[11260].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11260].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11260].text |
新莊那其實他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11261].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11261].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11261].text |
電影其實主要會是以國片或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11262].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11262].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11262].text |
藝術片的為主所以這一項他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11263].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11263].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11263].text |
會持續在努力增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[11264].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11264].text |
他的放映內容來累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].start |
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31698.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11265].text |
常態的觀眾那謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11266].start |
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的一個支持我們會持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11267].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11267].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[11267].text |
再繼續努力謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].start |
31704.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11268].end |
31706.73 |
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好那經過你的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11269].start |
31706.73 |
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| transcript.whisperx[11269].text |
解釋說明 |
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31710.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11270].text |
那132案跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].start |
31710.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].end |
31712.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11271].text |
134案那我就改 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].start |
31712.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].end |
31714.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11272].text |
為主決議 |
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31714.73 |
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31716.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11273].text |
那123案 |
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31716.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].end |
31718.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11274].text |
123案我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].start |
31718.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].end |
31720.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[11275].text |
為止凍結一億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].start |
31728.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].end |
31730.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11276].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].start |
31734.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].end |
31736.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11277].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].start |
31747.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].end |
31749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11278].text |
那我們補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].start |
31749.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].end |
31751.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11279].text |
126129132134改為主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].start |
31754.1 |
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31756.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[11280].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11281].end |
31759.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[11281].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11282].start |
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好啊那先 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11283].end |
31764.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11283].text |
羅志祥委員先等等好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].start |
31764.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].end |
31766.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[11284].text |
先部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].start |
31772.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11285].end |
31774.45 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].start |
31775.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].end |
31777.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11286].text |
我想跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].start |
31778.52 |
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31780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11287].text |
委員解釋一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11288].start |
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那個公共 |
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31782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].end |
31784.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11289].text |
廣播集團的那個 |
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31786.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11290].text |
剛剛您提到那個公共 |
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31786.52 |
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31788.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11291].text |
廣播集團的董事 |
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的那個成立 |
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的方式是由行政院 |
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提名然後由 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[11295].end |
31796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11295].text |
各政黨推派按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].start |
31796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].end |
31798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11296].text |
政黨比例推派評審 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].start |
31798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].end |
31800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11297].text |
委員所以每一任 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].start |
31800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].end |
31802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11298].text |
的評審委員都不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].start |
31802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].end |
31804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11299].text |
都由那一屆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].start |
31804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].end |
31806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11300].text |
各政黨的政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].start |
31806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].end |
31808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11301].text |
來推薦那個公共 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].start |
31808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].end |
31810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11302].text |
人士然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].start |
31810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].end |
31812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11303].text |
表決以前是四分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].start |
31812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].end |
31814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11304].text |
三通過所以造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].start |
31814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].end |
31816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11305].text |
非常好幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].start |
31816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].end |
31818.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11306].text |
都要一千天才 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].start |
31818.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].end |
31820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11307].text |
過了後來就修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].start |
31820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].end |
31822.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11308].text |
三分之二後來發現三分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].start |
31822.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].end |
31824.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11309].text |
二還是有問題因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].start |
31824.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].end |
31826.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11310].text |
只要有人不同意他就過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].start |
31826.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].end |
31828.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11311].text |
不了所以這次有八 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].start |
31828.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].end |
31830.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11312].text |
位委員同時辭職 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].start |
31830.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].end |
31832.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11313].text |
以後我們全部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].start |
31832.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].end |
31834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11314].text |
案子就停在原地 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].start |
31834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].end |
31836.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11315].text |
然後其實我有努力去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].start |
31836.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].end |
31838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11316].text |
在選拔這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].start |
31838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].end |
31840.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11317].text |
董事人選的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].start |
31840.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].end |
31842.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11318].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].start |
31842.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].end |
31844.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11319].text |
有接受各界的建議所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].start |
31844.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].end |
31846.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11320].text |
你可以看到我們的那個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].start |
31846.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].end |
31848.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11321].text |
名單基本上是代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].start |
31848.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].end |
31850.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11322].text |
各界各行各業並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].start |
31850.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].end |
31852.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11323].text |
政黨色彩所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].start |
31852.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].end |
31854.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11324].text |
我要溝通的就是大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].start |
31854.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].end |
31856.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11325].text |
有一個誤會說哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].start |
31856.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].end |
31858.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11326].text |
政黨執政他就會推出 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].start |
31858.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].end |
31860.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11327].text |
他想要的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].start |
31860.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].end |
31862.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11328].text |
那我這次名單其實很 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].start |
31862.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].end |
31864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11329].text |
很驚愕請大家考驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].start |
31864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].end |
31866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11330].text |
而且大家可以看我的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].start |
31866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].end |
31868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11331].text |
名單真的沒有政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].start |
31868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].end |
31870.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11332].text |
色彩那為什麼不要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].start |
31870.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].end |
31872.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11333].text |
經過那個政黨協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].start |
31872.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].end |
31874.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11334].text |
的原因就是如果這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].start |
31874.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].end |
31876.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11335].text |
一開以後會變成是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].start |
31876.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].end |
31878.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11336].text |
以後公共電視的董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].start |
31878.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].end |
31880.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11337].text |
兩個政黨協商完畢以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].start |
31880.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].end |
31882.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11338].text |
就產生了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].start |
31882.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].end |
31884.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11339].text |
那剛好就違背了原來最早 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].start |
31884.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].end |
31886.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11340].text |
講好是政黨協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].start |
31886.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].end |
31888.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11341].text |
後派評審委員來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].start |
31888.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].end |
31890.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11342].text |
評審這個制度就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].start |
31890.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].end |
31892.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11343].text |
還是要回到公共電視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].start |
31892.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].end |
31894.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11344].text |
最早最初始的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].start |
31894.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].end |
31896.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11345].text |
當年要設立這個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].start |
31896.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].end |
31898.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11346].text |
這個遊戲規則的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].start |
31898.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].end |
31900.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11347].text |
那個超然我想我只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].start |
31900.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].end |
31902.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11348].text |
尊重最早開始的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].start |
31902.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].end |
31904.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11349].text |
制度以上給您報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].start |
31904.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].end |
31906.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11350].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].start |
31908.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].end |
31910.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11351].text |
特別拜託委員支持這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].start |
31910.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].end |
31912.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11352].text |
是因為我們目前的公視董事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].start |
31912.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].end |
31914.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11353].text |
的候選有兩位是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].start |
31914.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].end |
31916.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11354].text |
重要的體育選手那我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].start |
31916.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].end |
31918.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11355].text |
委員一直很希望體育跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].start |
31918.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].end |
31920.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11356].text |
文化可以結合所以在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].start |
31920.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].end |
31922.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11357].text |
提名裡面部長特別提名了兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].start |
31922.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].end |
31924.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11358].text |
體育選手所以非常希望委員可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].start |
31924.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].end |
31926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11359].text |
支持我們不要動到一億因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].start |
31926.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].end |
31928.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11360].text |
這樣公視真的會很難運作謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].start |
31928.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].end |
31930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11361].text |
好那個對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].start |
31930.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].end |
31932.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11362].text |
那個榮臻市的人選 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].start |
31932.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].end |
31934.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11363].text |
我們都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].start |
31934.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].end |
31936.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11364].text |
有關於彭正寧 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].start |
31936.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].end |
31938.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11365].text |
李志凱這兩位運動選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].start |
31938.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].end |
31940.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11366].text |
我都相當支持包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].start |
31940.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].end |
31942.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11367].text |
黃毅寧這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].start |
31942.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].end |
31944.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11368].text |
那個在我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].start |
31944.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].end |
31946.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11369].text |
那個意見相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].start |
31946.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].end |
31948.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11370].text |
有他的名氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].start |
31948.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].end |
31950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11371].text |
這個部分我都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].start |
31950.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].end |
31952.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11372].text |
問題但是呢因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].start |
31952.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].end |
31954.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11373].text |
因為你看明天中選會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].start |
31954.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].end |
31956.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11374].text |
就是要投票了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].start |
31956.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].end |
31958.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11375].text |
中選會他也還是一樣到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].start |
31958.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].end |
31960.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11376].text |
來啊那我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].start |
31960.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].end |
31962.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11377].text |
我覺得是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].start |
31962.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].end |
31964.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11378].text |
一直沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].start |
31964.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].end |
31966.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11379].text |
產生包括監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].start |
31966.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].end |
31968.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11380].text |
都調查都提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].start |
31968.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].end |
31970.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11381].text |
公視的董監 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].start |
31970.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].end |
31972.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11382].text |
延任案他也覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].start |
31972.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].end |
31974.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11383].text |
應該要糾正這個行政部行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].start |
31974.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].end |
31976.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11384].text |
跟文化部不能夠長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].start |
31976.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].end |
31978.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11385].text |
做事公視都藉董監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].start |
31978.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].end |
31980.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11386].text |
做來延練 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].start |
31980.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].end |
31982.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11387].text |
那沒有辦法來積極辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].start |
31982.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].end |
31984.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11388].text |
有所謂的公共化專業化就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].start |
31984.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].end |
31986.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11389].text |
辦法來發揮他的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].start |
31986.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].end |
31988.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11390].text |
那我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].start |
31988.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].end |
31990.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11391].text |
本黨很就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].start |
31990.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].end |
31992.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11392].text |
很堅持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].start |
31992.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].end |
31994.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11393].text |
就是說希望部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].start |
31994.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].end |
31996.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11394].text |
你能夠帶著這個名單到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].start |
31996.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].end |
31998.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11395].text |
來這沒有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].start |
31998.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].end |
32000.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11396].text |
沒有反對然後呢我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].start |
32000.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].end |
32002.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11397].text |
監委能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].start |
32002.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].end |
32004.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11398].text |
再一次提名然後呢來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].start |
32004.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].end |
32006.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11399].text |
這樣的趕快把這個公視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].start |
32006.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].end |
32008.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11400].text |
的這個董監能夠產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].start |
32008.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].end |
32010.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11401].text |
那讓公視能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].start |
32010.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].end |
32012.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11402].text |
來很快的運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].start |
32012.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].end |
32014.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11403].text |
要不然呢你看現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].start |
32014.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].end |
32016.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11404].text |
你編了21億但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].start |
32016.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].end |
32018.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11405].text |
這董監是並沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].start |
32018.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].end |
32020.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11406].text |
沒有產生啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].start |
32020.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].end |
32022.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11407].text |
但是經費還是那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].start |
32022.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].end |
32024.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11408].text |
還是那麼多那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].start |
32024.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].end |
32026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11409].text |
這個運作就是我個人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].start |
32026.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].end |
32028.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11410].text |
就是有問題那在這個地方呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].start |
32028.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].end |
32030.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11411].text |
我是請部長能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].start |
32030.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].end |
32032.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11412].text |
從善如有考慮看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].start |
32032.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].end |
32034.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11413].text |
可以來到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].start |
32034.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].end |
32036.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11414].text |
跟大家做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].start |
32036.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].end |
32038.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11415].text |
協調這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].start |
32038.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].end |
32040.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11416].text |
這是我們本黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].start |
32040.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].end |
32042.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11417].text |
堅持的一個立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].start |
32042.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].end |
32044.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[11418].text |
我是善如 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].start |
32044.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].end |
32046.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11419].text |
跟村長委員補充說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].start |
32046.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].end |
32048.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[11420].text |
我的理解啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].start |
32049.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].end |
32051.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11421].text |
沒有人比文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].start |
32052.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].end |
32054.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11422].text |
跟公視更想要趕快組成新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].start |
32056.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].end |
32058.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[11423].text |
董監事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].start |
32057.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].end |
32059.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11424].text |
他們是最想的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].start |
32059.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].end |
32061.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11425].text |
因為新的董監事會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].start |
32061.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].end |
32063.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11426].text |
的人是沒有底定 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].start |
32063.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].end |
32065.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11427].text |
很多運作就很難順暢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].start |
32066.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].end |
32068.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11428].text |
所以站在文化部的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].start |
32068.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].end |
32070.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11429].text |
站在公視基金會的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].start |
32070.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].end |
32072.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11430].text |
都希望能夠完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].start |
32072.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].end |
32074.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11431].text |
人事案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].start |
32075.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].end |
32077.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11432].text |
那行政部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].start |
32077.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].end |
32079.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11433].text |
文化部再提名 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].start |
32079.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].end |
32081.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11434].text |
新一批的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].start |
32081.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].end |
32083.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11435].text |
董監事的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].start |
32083.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].end |
32085.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11436].text |
是早已經提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].start |
32085.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].end |
32087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11437].text |
現在反而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].start |
32087.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].end |
32089.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[11438].text |
要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].start |
32089.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].end |
32091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11439].text |
文化部有具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].start |
32091.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].end |
32093.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[11440].text |
請立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].start |
32094.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].end |
32096.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11441].text |
趕快針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].start |
32096.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].end |
32098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11442].text |
第八屆董監事的審查會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].start |
32098.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].end |
32100.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[11443].text |
要趕快組成啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].start |
32100.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].end |
32102.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11444].text |
反而是立法院的這一個審查會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].start |
32102.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].end |
32104.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11445].text |
目前沒有組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].start |
32104.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].end |
32106.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11446].text |
所以立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].start |
32106.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].end |
32108.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11447].text |
自己的委員會沒有組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].start |
32108.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].end |
32110.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11448].text |
就沒有辦法審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].start |
32110.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].end |
32112.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11449].text |
現在公視基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].start |
32112.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].end |
32114.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11450].text |
已經送出來的新任董監事的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].start |
32114.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].end |
32116.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11451].text |
所以其實現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].start |
32116.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].end |
32118.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11452].text |
的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].start |
32118.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].end |
32120.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11453].text |
解鄰還需系鄰人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].start |
32120.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].end |
32122.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11454].text |
是在立法院的這個董監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].start |
32122.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].end |
32124.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11455].text |
審查委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].start |
32124.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].end |
32126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11456].text |
所以最要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].start |
32126.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].end |
32128.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11457].text |
是要求我們立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].start |
32128.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].end |
32130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11458].text |
的董監事人 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].start |
32130.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].end |
32132.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11459].text |
審查會要組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].start |
32132.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].end |
32134.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11460].text |
跟村長委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].start |
32134.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].end |
32136.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11461].text |
他們的公視該提名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].start |
32136.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].end |
32138.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11462].text |
名單已經送了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].start |
32138.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].end |
32140.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11463].text |
已經提了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].start |
32140.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].end |
32142.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11464].text |
所以五月份的時候五月五號 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].start |
32142.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].end |
32144.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11465].text |
文化部再一次行文 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].start |
32144.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].end |
32146.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11466].text |
給立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].start |
32146.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].end |
32148.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11467].text |
趕快立法院各黨派 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].start |
32150.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].end |
32152.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11468].text |
組成這個審查委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].start |
32152.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].end |
32154.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11469].text |
現在是卡在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].start |
32153.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].end |
32155.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11470].text |
所以他們其實是受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].start |
32156.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].end |
32158.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11471].text |
公視的新任董監事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].start |
32158.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].end |
32160.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11472].text |
會沒有辦法組成因為他們沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].start |
32160.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].end |
32162.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11473].text |
有審查委員會組成他們就沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].start |
32162.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].end |
32164.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[11474].text |
審查他的董監事名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].start |
32164.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].end |
32166.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11475].text |
所以我們立法院是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].start |
32166.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].end |
32168.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11476].text |
造成延宕的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].start |
32168.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].end |
32170.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11477].text |
怎麼現在反過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].start |
32170.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].end |
32172.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11478].text |
要來凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].start |
32172.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].end |
32174.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11479].text |
刪減公視基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].start |
32174.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].end |
32176.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[11480].text |
的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].start |
32178.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].end |
32180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11481].text |
我可以把這一份文給村長委員看 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].start |
32180.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].end |
32182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11482].text |
這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].start |
32182.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].end |
32184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11483].text |
現在要 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].start |
32184.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].end |
32186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11484].text |
問題是立法院要組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].start |
32186.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].end |
32188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11485].text |
所以我是很懇切的跟村長委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].start |
32188.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].end |
32190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11486].text |
我這個文可以讓你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].start |
32190.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].end |
32192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11487].text |
是因為我們台台的審查會沒有組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].start |
32192.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].end |
32194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11488].text |
以至於他們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].start |
32194.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].end |
32196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11489].text |
把他們已經送出來的名單沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].start |
32196.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].end |
32198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11490].text |
審查所以剛剛我們跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].start |
32198.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].end |
32200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11491].text |
那個羅志強委員也 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].start |
32200.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].end |
32202.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[11492].text |
也做了溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].start |
32202.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].end |
32204.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11493].text |
羅志強委員這個部分是提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].start |
32204.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].end |
32206.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11494].text |
一千萬的凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].start |
32206.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].end |
32208.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11495].text |
那我把具體的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].start |
32208.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].end |
32210.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[11496].text |
跟村手姐報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].start |
32210.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].end |
32212.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11497].text |
現在的難題是我們立法院沒有組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].start |
32212.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].end |
32214.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11498].text |
是我們在凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].start |
32214.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].end |
32216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11499].text |
我們在凍結人士 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].start |
32216.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].end |
32218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11500].text |
現在在說我們要凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].start |
32218.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].end |
32220.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11501].text |
我們這個是立法院要組成 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].start |
32220.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].end |
32222.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11502].text |
審查會才能夠去審他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].start |
32222.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].end |
32224.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11503].text |
已經提出來的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].start |
32224.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].end |
32226.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11504].text |
他們已經提出來啦他們在等著這個委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].start |
32226.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].end |
32228.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11505].text |
的組成啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].start |
32228.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].end |
32230.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11506].text |
不好意思吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].start |
32230.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].end |
32232.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11507].text |
點名我嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].start |
32232.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].end |
32234.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11508].text |
我是說剛剛你已經協調好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].start |
32234.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].end |
32236.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11509].text |
那個鄭重委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].start |
32236.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].end |
32238.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11510].text |
你要跟羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].start |
32238.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].end |
32240.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11511].text |
要求證一下他的訴求啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].start |
32240.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].end |
32242.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11512].text |
就是吳思耀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].start |
32242.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].end |
32244.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11513].text |
你要交委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].start |
32245.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].end |
32247.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11514].text |
你要提供資訊給他你私下講 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].start |
32247.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].end |
32249.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11515].text |
不要拿麥克風講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].start |
32249.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].end |
32251.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11516].text |
就是讓其他委員發言啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].start |
32251.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].end |
32253.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11517].text |
你要私底下提供資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].start |
32253.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].end |
32255.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11518].text |
我跟你講我的原則很 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].start |
32255.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].end |
32257.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11519].text |
簡單我跟文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].start |
32257.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].end |
32259.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11520].text |
不知鏡的協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].start |
32259.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].end |
32261.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11521].text |
那是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].start |
32260.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].end |
32262.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11522].text |
我並不要干涉影響到其他委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].start |
32262.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].end |
32264.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11523].text |
我並不要干涉影響到其他委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].start |
32264.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].end |
32266.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11524].text |
我並不要干涉影響到其他委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].start |
32266.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].end |
32268.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11525].text |
所以不要拿我跟文化部的協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].start |
32268.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].end |
32270.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11526].text |
然後作為去說服其他委員的一個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].start |
32270.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].end |
32272.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11527].text |
然後作為去說服其他委員的一個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].start |
32272.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].end |
32274.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11528].text |
那這一點抱歉我不接受以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].start |
32280.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].end |
32282.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11529].text |
好 村長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].start |
32282.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].end |
32284.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11530].text |
那我們繼續維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].start |
32284.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].end |
32286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11531].text |
圓案嗎 是 1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].start |
32286.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].end |
32288.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11532].text |
1000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].start |
32288.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].end |
32290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11533].text |
1億 1億 1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].start |
32290.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].end |
32292.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11534].text |
沒事沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].start |
32292.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].end |
32294.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11535].text |
我們委員他有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].start |
32294.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].end |
32296.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11536].text |
要準備的事情比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].start |
32296.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].end |
32298.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11537].text |
沒事沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].start |
32298.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].end |
32300.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11538].text |
故意讓你們嚇一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].start |
32300.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].end |
32302.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11539].text |
你讓我們的精神都變好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].start |
32302.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].end |
32304.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11540].text |
謝謝你 我們都很認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].start |
32304.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].end |
32306.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11541].text |
在傾聽你的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].start |
32306.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].end |
32308.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[11542].text |
好 那這一幕我們來處理囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].start |
32310.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].end |
32312.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11543].text |
第五幕 影視級流行音樂發展業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].start |
32312.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].end |
32314.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11544].text |
第五幕 影視級流行音樂發展業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].start |
32314.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].end |
32316.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11545].text |
第二節 我們從119到134 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].start |
32316.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].end |
32318.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11546].text |
第二節 我們從119到134 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].start |
32318.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].end |
32320.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11547].text |
那剛剛已經主決議的宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].start |
32320.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].end |
32322.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11548].text |
我就不講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].start |
32322.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].end |
32324.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11549].text |
那第五幕 合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].start |
32324.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].end |
32326.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11550].text |
現在有兩個案子 一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].start |
32326.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].end |
32328.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11551].text |
動1000萬 一個是動1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].start |
32328.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].end |
32330.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11552].text |
我們大家商量一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].start |
32330.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].end |
32332.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11553].text |
還有我的100 還有您的100 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].start |
32332.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].end |
32334.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11554].text |
我的100因為我們要整體放在這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].start |
32334.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].end |
32336.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11555].text |
共同處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].start |
32336.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].end |
32338.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11556].text |
那等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].start |
32338.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].end |
32340.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11557].text |
我們先處理簡略的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].start |
32340.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].end |
32342.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11558].text |
簡略的是第一節 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].start |
32342.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].end |
32344.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11559].text |
05 發展國際數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].start |
32344.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].end |
32346.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11560].text |
1000萬 簡略 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].start |
32347.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].end |
32349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11561].text |
好 第二 我們在處理動節的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].start |
32349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].end |
32351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11562].text |
那目前有確定的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].start |
32351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].end |
32353.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11563].text |
其中包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].start |
32353.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].end |
32355.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11564].text |
第一節05 發展國際數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].start |
32355.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].end |
32357.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11565].text |
第一節05 發展國際數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].start |
32357.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].end |
32359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11566].text |
1000萬 再加我的100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].start |
32359.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].end |
32361.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11567].text |
1000 100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].start |
32361.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].end |
32363.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11568].text |
那剛剛有委員提出1億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].start |
32363.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].end |
32365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11569].text |
123案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].start |
32365.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].end |
32367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11570].text |
我們尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].start |
32367.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].end |
32369.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[11571].text |
那是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].start |
32369.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].end |
32371.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[11572].text |
一起加列在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].start |
32374.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].end |
32376.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11573].text |
那我個人意見就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].start |
32376.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].end |
32378.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11574].text |
我支持前面的1000加100 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].start |
32378.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].end |
32380.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11575].text |
你們花了很多時間討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].start |
32380.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].end |
32382.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11576].text |
那再請村委員好好思索一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].start |
32382.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].end |
32384.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11577].text |
因為你剛剛提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].start |
32384.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].end |
32386.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11578].text |
要動節的這個理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].start |
32388.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].end |
32390.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11579].text |
其實我們立法院是阻卻人家行使人士同意權 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].start |
32390.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].end |
32392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11580].text |
目前是卡在這裡啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].start |
32392.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].end |
32394.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11581].text |
要去動節公視基金會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].start |
32394.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].end |
32396.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11582].text |
我覺得這說不過去啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].start |
32398.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].end |
32400.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11583].text |
請村委員可以理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].start |
32402.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].end |
32404.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11584].text |
那我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].start |
32404.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].end |
32406.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11585].text |
如果文化部能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].start |
32406.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].end |
32408.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11586].text |
就是到立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].start |
32408.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].end |
32410.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11587].text |
來做一個協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].start |
32410.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].end |
32412.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11588].text |
然後我們再從各黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].start |
32412.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].end |
32414.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11589].text |
再連線出那個審查委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].start |
32414.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].end |
32416.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11590].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].start |
32416.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].end |
32418.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11591].text |
那這樣子就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].start |
32418.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].end |
32420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11592].text |
讓他順利的產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].start |
32420.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].end |
32422.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11593].text |
我的前提是希望這個公視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].start |
32422.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].end |
32424.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11594].text |
能夠順利產生動監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].start |
32424.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].end |
32426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11595].text |
要跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].start |
32426.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].end |
32428.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11596].text |
這個我們現在的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].start |
32428.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].end |
32430.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11597].text |
是依法提出的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[11598].start |
32430.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11598].end |
32432.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11598].text |
我們不能介入媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[11599].start |
32432.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11599].end |
32434.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11599].text |
公媒的董事選舉的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11600].start |
32434.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11600].end |
32436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11600].text |
所以我們不能帶著大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11601].start |
32436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11601].end |
32438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11601].text |
去來立法院拜會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11602].start |
32438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11602].end |
32440.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11602].text |
因為那就是政治介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[11603].start |
32440.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11603].end |
32442.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11603].text |
因為黨政是退出 |
| transcript.whisperx[11604].start |
32442.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11604].end |
32444.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11604].text |
媒體這個是法律所明定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11605].start |
32444.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11605].end |
32446.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11605].text |
所以我們是依照這個程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[11606].start |
32446.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11606].end |
32448.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11606].text |
來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[11607].start |
32448.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11607].end |
32450.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11607].text |
所以沒有辦法執行這樣程序要請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11608].start |
32450.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11608].end |
32452.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11608].text |
見諒因為這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11609].start |
32452.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11609].end |
32454.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11609].text |
依法律執行的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[11610].start |
32454.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11610].end |
32456.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11610].text |
那這樣子的話明天中選會為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11611].start |
32456.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11611].end |
32458.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11611].text |
可以要投票啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11612].start |
32458.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11612].end |
32460.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11612].text |
中選會是人事同意權 |
| transcript.whisperx[11613].start |
32460.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11613].end |
32462.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11613].text |
是立法院行使的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11614].start |
32462.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11614].end |
32464.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11614].text |
不要這樣子說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11615].start |
32464.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11615].end |
32466.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11615].text |
人家沒空去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11616].start |
32466.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11616].end |
32468.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11616].text |
委員家有幾件通告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11617].start |
32468.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11617].end |
32470.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11617].text |
好啦那我們休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[11618].start |
32470.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11618].end |
32472.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11618].text |
休息一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11619].start |
32472.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11619].end |
32474.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11619].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[11620].start |
32474.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11620].end |
32476.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11620].text |
人事同意權是立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11621].start |
32476.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11621].end |
32478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11621].text |
直接行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[11622].start |
32478.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11622].end |
32480.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11622].text |
公共電視基金會的董監視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11623].start |
32480.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11623].end |
32482.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11623].text |
是透過委員會來行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[11624].start |
32482.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11624].end |
32484.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11624].text |
立法院不能夠政治 |
| transcript.whisperx[11625].start |
32484.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11625].end |
32486.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11625].text |
介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[11626].start |
32855.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11626].end |
32857.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11626].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11627].start |
32856.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11627].end |
32858.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[11627].text |
現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11628].start |
32858.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11628].end |
32860.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11628].text |
好我們繼續處理這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11629].start |
32860.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11629].end |
32862.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11629].text |
那剛剛有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11630].start |
32862.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11630].end |
32864.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11630].text |
有提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11631].start |
32865.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11631].end |
32867.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11631].text |
一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[11632].start |
32867.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11632].end |
32869.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11632].text |
掰掰 |
| transcript.whisperx[11633].start |
32868.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11633].end |
32870.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11633].text |
ㄟㄟ |
| transcript.whisperx[11634].start |
32870.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11634].end |
32872.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11634].text |
那我們繼續來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11635].start |
32883.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11635].end |
32885.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11635].text |
那我們是不是就持續的推進了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11636].start |
32885.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11636].end |
32887.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[11636].text |
有委員提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11637].start |
32890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11637].end |
32892.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11637].text |
我支持那個原本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11638].start |
32892.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11638].end |
32894.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[11638].text |
一千加一百的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11639].start |
32895.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11639].end |
32897.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11639].text |
我支持這是我的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11640].start |
32897.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11640].end |
32899.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11640].text |
我支持一千加一百的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11641].start |
32900.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11641].end |
32902.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11641].text |
好我複裔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11642].start |
32902.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11642].end |
32904.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11642].text |
謝謝主席我複裔這個一千加一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11643].start |
32904.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11643].end |
32906.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11643].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11644].start |
32906.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11644].end |
32908.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11644].text |
我想說你怎麼一直笑得很開心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11645].start |
32908.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11645].end |
32910.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11645].text |
你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11646].start |
32910.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11646].end |
32912.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11646].text |
你現在感冒好了就身體比較健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[11647].start |
32912.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11647].end |
32914.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11647].text |
我感冒還沒好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11648].start |
32914.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11648].end |
32916.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11648].text |
謝謝主席關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11649].start |
32916.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11649].end |
32918.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11649].text |
你今天看起來很活力 |
| transcript.whisperx[11650].start |
32918.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11650].end |
32920.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11650].text |
我也複裔一下就是一千加一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11651].start |
32920.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11651].end |
32922.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[11651].text |
好那春秋委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11652].start |
32927.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11652].end |
32929.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11652].text |
那我的就是凍結一億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11653].start |
32929.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11653].end |
32931.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11653].text |
好繼續凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11654].start |
32931.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11654].end |
32933.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11654].text |
好來羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11655].start |
32936.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11655].end |
32938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11655].text |
我覺得關於公視 |
| transcript.whisperx[11656].start |
32938.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11656].end |
32940.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11656].text |
董監事言論的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11657].start |
32940.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11657].end |
32942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11657].text |
大概在這邊已經辯論 |
| transcript.whisperx[11658].start |
32942.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11658].end |
32944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11658].text |
一百輪也差不多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11659].start |
32944.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11659].end |
32946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11659].text |
那我也不想要再重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[11660].start |
32946.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11660].end |
32948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11660].text |
可是今天既然蔡孫中委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11661].start |
32948.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11661].end |
32950.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11661].text |
有她的一個提案的堅持的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[11662].start |
32950.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11662].end |
32952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11662].text |
我表示尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[11663].start |
32952.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11663].end |
32954.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11663].text |
那沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[11664].start |
32954.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11664].end |
32956.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11664].text |
就保留鬆懈上也是一個選項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11665].start |
32956.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11665].end |
32958.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[11665].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11666].start |
32958.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11666].end |
32960.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11666].text |
好那是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11667].start |
32960.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11667].end |
32962.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11667].text |
我們就照剛剛委員尊重委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11668].start |
32962.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11668].end |
32964.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11668].text |
我們就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11669].start |
32964.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11669].end |
32966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11669].text |
一億一千 |
| transcript.whisperx[11670].start |
32966.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11670].end |
32968.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[11670].text |
一百萬的凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11671].start |
32969.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11671].end |
32971.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[11671].text |
有要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11672].start |
32971.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11672].end |
32973.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11672].text |
那既然那個羅委員這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[11673].start |
32973.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11673].end |
32975.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11673].text |
不然就是保留鬆懈上吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[11674].start |
32975.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11674].end |
32977.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11674].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11675].start |
32977.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11675].end |
32979.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11675].text |
那所以我們是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[11676].start |
32979.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11676].end |
32981.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11676].text |
但是是哪一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11677].start |
32981.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11677].end |
32983.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11677].text |
我們是不是這一幕能處理的還是處理掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[11678].start |
32983.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11678].end |
32985.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11678].text |
就是說一千加一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11679].start |
32985.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11679].end |
32987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11679].text |
可以先整幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11680].start |
32987.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11680].end |
32989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11680].text |
沒關係我知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11681].start |
32989.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11681].end |
32991.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11681].text |
他的案子是跟志祥委員是同一案嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11682].start |
32991.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11682].end |
32993.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11682].text |
那你覺得可以再說嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11683].start |
32993.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11683].end |
32995.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11683].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11684].start |
32995.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11684].end |
32997.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11684].text |
這一幕就是凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11685].start |
32997.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[11685].end |
32999.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[11685].text |
一千一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11686].start |
33000.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11686].end |
33002.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11686].text |
那他單項那一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11687].start |
33002.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11687].end |
33004.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11687].text |
保留鬆懈上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11688].start |
33006.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11688].end |
33008.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11688].text |
那可能有一點點再釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11689].start |
33008.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11689].end |
33010.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11689].text |
主席的一百是一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11690].start |
33010.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11690].end |
33012.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11690].text |
那個案很清楚嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11691].start |
33012.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11691].end |
33014.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11691].text |
那志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11692].start |
33014.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11692].end |
33016.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11692].text |
志祥委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11693].start |
33016.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11693].end |
33018.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11693].text |
那這樣子因為志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11694].start |
33018.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11694].end |
33020.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11694].text |
跟尊重委員是同一個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[11695].start |
33020.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11695].end |
33022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11695].text |
那還是說這一幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11696].start |
33022.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11696].end |
33024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11696].text |
就是說第九十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11697].start |
33024.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11697].end |
33026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11697].text |
第一百一十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11698].start |
33026.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11698].end |
33028.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11698].text |
然後尊重委員是哪一案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11699].start |
33028.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11699].end |
33030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11699].text |
第一二三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11700].start |
33030.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11700].end |
33032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11700].text |
三案保留鬆懈上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11701].start |
33032.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11701].end |
33034.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11701].text |
其他就是照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[11702].start |
33034.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11702].end |
33036.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[11702].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11703].start |
33035.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11703].end |
33037.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11703].text |
對啊對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11704].start |
33037.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11704].end |
33039.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11704].text |
等一下等一下我討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11705].start |
33039.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11705].end |
33041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11705].text |
因為你很聰明我們要了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11706].start |
33041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11706].end |
33043.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11706].text |
你的用意是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[11707].start |
33043.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11707].end |
33045.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11707].text |
因為其他的幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11708].start |
33045.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11708].end |
33047.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[11708].text |
其他案子不要受影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[11709].start |
33046.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11709].end |
33048.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11709].text |
就是主席要動一百萬的九十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11710].start |
33048.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11710].end |
33050.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11710].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11711].start |
33050.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11711].end |
33052.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11711].text |
要動一千萬的一百一十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11712].start |
33052.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11712].end |
33054.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11712].text |
跟蔡宣仇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11713].start |
33054.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11713].end |
33056.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11713].text |
要動一億的一百二十三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11714].start |
33056.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11714].end |
33058.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11714].text |
三案保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11715].start |
33058.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11715].end |
33060.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11715].text |
鬆懈上就這三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11716].start |
33060.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11716].end |
33062.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[11716].text |
那其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11717].start |
33063 |
| transcript.whisperx[11717].end |
33065 |
| transcript.whisperx[11717].text |
這一幕的其他部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11718].start |
33065 |
| transcript.whisperx[11718].end |
33067 |
| transcript.whisperx[11718].text |
就大家都沒有意見改主決議的改主決議了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11719].start |
33067 |
| transcript.whisperx[11719].end |
33069 |
| transcript.whisperx[11719].text |
就應當是這樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11720].start |
33069 |
| transcript.whisperx[11720].end |
33071 |
| transcript.whisperx[11720].text |
這是這不是誰聰明不聰明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11721].start |
33071 |
| transcript.whisperx[11721].end |
33073 |
| transcript.whisperx[11721].text |
這就是符合真實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11722].start |
33074.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11722].end |
33076.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11722].text |
我比較憨慢我了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11723].start |
33076.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11723].end |
33078.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11723].text |
你等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11724].start |
33084.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11724].end |
33086.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[11724].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11725].start |
33086.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11725].end |
33088.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11725].text |
那你要稍微再改一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11726].start |
33088.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11726].end |
33090.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11726].text |
好來剛剛宣告的主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11727].start |
33090.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11727].end |
33092.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11727].text |
我就不再宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11728].start |
33092.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11728].end |
33094.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11728].text |
那現在九十一二三 |
| transcript.whisperx[11729].start |
33095.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11729].end |
33097.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[11729].text |
一 |
| transcript.whisperx[11730].start |
33096.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11730].end |
33098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11730].text |
百一 |
| transcript.whisperx[11731].start |
33098.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11731].end |
33100.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11731].text |
三案保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11732].start |
33100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11732].end |
33102.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[11732].text |
除以上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11733].start |
33102.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11733].end |
33104.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[11733].text |
預算照列 |
| transcript.whisperx[11734].start |
33106.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11734].end |
33108.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11734].text |
主席你的一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11735].start |
33108.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11735].end |
33110.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11735].text |
要不然就動了就做成決議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11736].start |
33110.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11736].end |
33112.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11736].text |
沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11737].start |
33112.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11737].end |
33114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11737].text |
因為我現在看到您的標的是四十五億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11738].start |
33114.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11738].end |
33116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11738].text |
就是全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11739].start |
33116.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11739].end |
33118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11739].text |
我現在看到您提案的細項 |
| transcript.whisperx[11740].start |
33118.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11740].end |
33120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11740].text |
是你把四十五億都保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[11741].start |
33120.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11741].end |
33122.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11741].text |
對啊因為我想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11742].start |
33122.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11742].end |
33124.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11742].text |
沒有沒有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11743].start |
33124.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11743].end |
33126.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11743].text |
我剛剛很愚蠢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11744].start |
33126.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11744].end |
33128.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11744].text |
我沒有看到您的大魔王 |
| transcript.whisperx[11745].start |
33128.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11745].end |
33130.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11745].text |
我完全不覺得你很愚蠢 |
| transcript.whisperx[11746].start |
33130.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11746].end |
33132.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[11746].text |
所以說再釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11747].start |
33132.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11747].end |
33134.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11747].text |
因為主席您的標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11748].start |
33134.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11748].end |
33136.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11748].text |
是動整個四十五億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11749].start |
33136.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11749].end |
33138.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11749].text |
我們剛剛討論了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[11750].start |
33138.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11750].end |
33140.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11750].text |
沒有沒有不是我提案我們現在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11751].start |
33140.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11751].end |
33142.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11751].text |
不要一直推給別人我們再一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[11752].start |
33142.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11752].end |
33144.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11752].text |
做成一個共同的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11753].start |
33144.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11753].end |
33146.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11753].text |
因為主席您的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11754].start |
33146.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11754].end |
33148.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11754].text |
標的是整目的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[11755].start |
33148.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11755].end |
33150.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[11755].text |
四十五億 |
| transcript.whisperx[11756].start |
33151.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11756].end |
33153.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11756].text |
那我們同意那你這一億就先動一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11757].start |
33153.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11757].end |
33155.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[11757].text |
先讓他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[11758].start |
33156.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11758].end |
33158.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11758].text |
然後另外把羅志祥委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11759].start |
33158.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11759].end |
33160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11759].text |
一百一十案跟那個蔡選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[11760].start |
33160.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11760].end |
33162.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11760].text |
委員的一百二三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11761].start |
33162.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11761].end |
33164.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11761].text |
然後志祥委員這邊的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11762].start |
33164.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11762].end |
33166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11762].text |
十億為本的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11763].start |
33166.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11763].end |
33168.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11763].text |
村長委員的那一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11764].start |
33168.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11764].end |
33170.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11764].text |
凍結一億嘛這樣有沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[11765].start |
33170.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11765].end |
33172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11765].text |
你們文化部的同仁看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11766].start |
33172.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11766].end |
33174.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[11766].text |
是這樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11767].start |
33174.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11767].end |
33176.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11767].text |
就是零一嘛OK |
| transcript.whisperx[11768].start |
33176.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11768].end |
33178.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11768].text |
那您的大象要凍結一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11769].start |
33178.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11769].end |
33180.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[11769].text |
就先先先先可以通過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11770].start |
33181.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11770].end |
33183.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11770].text |
我們要理因為不能處理錯處理錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[11771].start |
33183.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11771].end |
33185.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11771].text |
會差天跟地我們剛剛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11772].start |
33185.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11772].end |
33187.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[11772].text |
討論就整組還了了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11773].start |
33190.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11773].end |
33192.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11773].text |
那次長你有沒有再清楚說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11774].start |
33192.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11774].end |
33194.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11774].text |
顯然那個主席很懷疑我說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11775].start |
33194.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11775].end |
33196.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11775].text |
來次長你說一下他可能比較會聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[11776].start |
33196.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11776].end |
33198.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11776].text |
就是依照剛剛的討論應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11777].start |
33198.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11777].end |
33200.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11777].text |
主席的九十案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11778].start |
33200.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11778].end |
33202.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11778].text |
凍一百 |
| transcript.whisperx[11779].start |
33202.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11779].end |
33204.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11779].text |
然後有正義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11780].start |
33204.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11780].end |
33206.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11780].text |
一百一 |
| transcript.whisperx[11781].start |
33206.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11781].end |
33208.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11781].text |
難得我們兩個人都沒和同樣想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11782].start |
33208.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11782].end |
33210.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11782].text |
我看清楚我及早發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[11783].start |
33210.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11783].end |
33212.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11783].text |
這兩案是保留協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11784].start |
33212.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11784].end |
33214.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[11784].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11785].start |
33214.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11785].end |
33216.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[11785].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11786].start |
33215.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11786].end |
33217.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11786].text |
請主席才是我想這樣才是剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[11787].start |
33217.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11787].end |
33219.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11787].text |
符合大家的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11788].start |
33223.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11788].end |
33225.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11788].text |
好保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11789].start |
33225.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11789].end |
33227.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[11789].text |
一百一一二三 |
| transcript.whisperx[11790].start |
33228.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11790].end |
33230.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11790].text |
本幕合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[11791].start |
33230.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11791].end |
33232.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11791].text |
簡列剛剛已經宣告完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11792].start |
33232.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11792].end |
33234.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11792].text |
那 |
| transcript.whisperx[11793].start |
33234.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11793].end |
33236.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[11793].text |
那要還有簡列嗎就不要啦因為你不是要協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[11794].start |
33238.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11794].end |
33240.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[11794].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11795].start |
33240.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11795].end |
33242.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[11795].text |
除以上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11796].start |
33242.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11796].end |
33244.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11796].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11797].start |
33245.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11797].end |
33247.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11797].text |
我們凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11798].start |
33247.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11798].end |
33249.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[11798].text |
合併凍結一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11799].start |
33249.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[11799].end |
33251.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[11799].text |
對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11800].start |
33250.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11800].end |
33252.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11800].text |
就是這樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11801].start |
33252.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11801].end |
33254.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11801].text |
你不簡列了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11802].start |
33254.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11802].end |
33256.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11802].text |
他那案有簡列的你要送保留協商啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11803].start |
33256.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11803].end |
33258.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11803].text |
因為要送協商所以就沒有簡列的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[11804].start |
33258.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11804].end |
33260.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11804].text |
對對對主席非常的聰明 |
| transcript.whisperx[11805].start |
33260.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11805].end |
33262.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11805].text |
很好啊不然我們要再簡列 |
| transcript.whisperx[11806].start |
33262.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11806].end |
33264.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11806].text |
又要再送協商嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11807].start |
33264.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11807].end |
33266.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11807].text |
沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11808].start |
33266.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11808].end |
33268.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11808].text |
你是一二一還是一一零你是一一零吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[11809].start |
33275.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11809].end |
33277.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[11809].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[11810].start |
33276.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11810].end |
33278.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[11810].text |
好啦一二一也一起送協商啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11811].start |
33286.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[11811].end |
33288.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[11811].text |
所以你現在一一零不用送協商了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11812].start |
33291.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11812].end |
33293.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[11812].text |
好了好了好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11813].start |
33294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11813].end |
33296.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[11813].text |
好重新宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11814].start |
33297.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11814].end |
33299.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11814].text |
保留送協商的有一二一 |
| transcript.whisperx[11815].start |
33299.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11815].end |
33301.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11815].text |
一二三 |
| transcript.whisperx[11816].start |
33301.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11816].end |
33303.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11816].text |
除以上個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11817].start |
33303.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11817].end |
33305.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11817].text |
我們簡列第一節零五 |
| transcript.whisperx[11818].start |
33305.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11818].end |
33307.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11818].text |
發展國際數位傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[11819].start |
33307.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11819].end |
33309.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11819].text |
一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11820].start |
33309.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11820].end |
33311.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[11820].text |
然後凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11821].start |
33311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11821].end |
33313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11821].text |
一千一百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11822].start |
33313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11822].end |
33315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11822].text |
其中包含第一節零五 |
| transcript.whisperx[11823].start |
33315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11823].end |
33317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11823].text |
發展國際數位傳播一千萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[11824].start |
33317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11824].end |
33319.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11824].text |
提出書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11825].start |
33319.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11825].end |
33321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11825].text |
經委員同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[11826].start |
33321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11826].end |
33323.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[11826].text |
使得凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11827].start |
33328.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11827].end |
33330.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[11827].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[11828].start |
33330.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11828].end |
33332.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11828].text |
接著處理第六幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[11829].start |
33332.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11829].end |
33334.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11829].text |
人文及出版業務提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11830].start |
33334.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11830].end |
33336.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11830].text |
案號是一三五到一五三 |
| transcript.whisperx[11831].start |
33336.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11831].end |
33338.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11831].text |
只有十九案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11832].start |
33338.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11832].end |
33340.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11832].text |
所以請問是否就不要分級我們整幕一併處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[11833].start |
33340.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11833].end |
33342.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11833].text |
有個意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[11834].start |
33342.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11834].end |
33344.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11834].text |
解決剛剛一直都沒解決的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11835].start |
33344.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11835].end |
33346.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11835].text |
羅志祥委員算程序發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[11836].start |
33346.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11836].end |
33348.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11836].text |
來來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11837].start |
33348.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11837].end |
33350.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11837].text |
剛剛一直在講說到底這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[11838].start |
33350.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11838].end |
33352.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11838].text |
是不是這個書面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11839].start |
33352.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11839].end |
33354.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11839].text |
報告要經同意後才能 |
| transcript.whisperx[11840].start |
33354.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11840].end |
33356.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11840].text |
凍結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11841].start |
33356.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11841].end |
33358.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11841].text |
那我的建議是說因為主席前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[11842].start |
33358.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11842].end |
33360.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11842].text |
已經宣告了就照主席的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11843].start |
33360.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11843].end |
33362.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11843].text |
那後面就照 |
| transcript.whisperx[11844].start |
33362.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11844].end |
33364.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11844].text |
那個吳思耀委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[11845].start |
33364.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11845].end |
33366.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11845].text |
就是說書面報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[11846].start |
33366.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11846].end |
33368.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11846].text |
那個提出後就可以凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[11847].start |
33368.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11847].end |
33370.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11847].text |
那前面已經宣告就不要再把宣告改了 |
| transcript.whisperx[11848].start |
33370.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11848].end |
33372.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11848].text |
我呼籲羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11849].start |
33372.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11849].end |
33374.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11849].text |
同意謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11850].start |
33374.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11850].end |
33376.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[11850].text |
同意謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[11851].start |
33378.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11851].end |
33380.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11851].text |
好謝謝羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11852].start |
33380.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11852].end |
33382.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11852].text |
感謝協商喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11853].start |
33382.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11853].end |
33384.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11853].text |
那也拜託我們現場的所有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11854].start |
33384.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11854].end |
33386.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11854].text |
在對調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11855].start |
33386.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11855].end |
33388.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11855].text |
位置之前我們等待一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[11856].start |
33388.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11856].end |
33390.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11856].text |
拜託大家都可以協商啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[11857].start |
33390.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11857].end |
33392.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11857].text |
但是也給我們一個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[11858].start |
33392.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11858].end |
33394.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[11858].text |
大家提出自己的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11859].start |
33394.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11859].end |
33396.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11859].text |
我們不要全贏也不要全輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[11860].start |
33398.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11860].end |
33400.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[11860].text |
我們不要全贏也不要全輸 |
| transcript.whisperx[11861].start |
33409.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11861].end |
33411.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[11861].text |
好來現在的案子喔大家注意聽喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11862].start |
33413.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11862].end |
33415.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11862].text |
一三五案到一五三案 |
| transcript.whisperx[11863].start |
33415.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11863].end |
33417.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11863].text |
人文及出版業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[11864].start |
33417.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11864].end |
33419.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[11864].text |
請委員有提案的請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[11865].start |
33425.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11865].end |
33427.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11865].text |
好謝謝我們從後面喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11866].start |
33427.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11866].end |
33429.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[11866].text |
陳培裕委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[11867].start |
33428.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11867].end |
33430.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11867].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[11868].start |
33430.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11868].end |
33432.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11868].text |
我的編號一三八 |
| transcript.whisperx[11869].start |
33432.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11869].end |
33434.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11869].text |
在講國家語言的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[11870].start |
33434.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11870].end |
33436.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11870].text |
主要是因為有非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[11871].start |
33436.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11871].end |
33438.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11871].text |
來申請國家語言的戲劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[11872].start |
33438.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11872].end |
33440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11872].text |
也好或相關的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[11873].start |
33440.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11873].end |
33442.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11873].text |
但是在活動戲劇表演當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[11874].start |
33442.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11874].end |
33444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11874].text |
其實真的使用國家語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[11875].start |
33444.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11875].end |
33446.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11875].text |
例如說台語啊客家語 |
| transcript.whisperx[11876].start |
33446.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11876].end |
33448.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11876].text |
尤其是台語的部分其實比例非常低 |
| transcript.whisperx[11877].start |
33448.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11877].end |
33450.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11877].text |
那我們會覺得拿這個補助可是你在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11878].start |
33450.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11878].end |
33452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11878].text |
整體表演例如說30分鐘的表演 |
| transcript.whisperx[11879].start |
33452.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11879].end |
33454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11879].text |
你可能只講了5分鐘不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11880].start |
33454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11880].end |
33456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11880].text |
那我們會覺得這個不符合相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11881].start |
33456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11881].end |
33458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11881].text |
比例原則所以我們有提醒文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11882].start |
33458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11882].end |
33460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11882].text |
要多加注意跟觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[11883].start |
33460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11883].end |
33462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11883].text |
那再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11884].start |
33462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11884].end |
33464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11884].text |
國家語言這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[11885].start |
33464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11885].end |
33466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11885].text |
因為它不是只有台語有它的客語還有原住民語 |
| transcript.whisperx[11886].start |
33466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11886].end |
33468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11886].text |
新住民語言這些都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11887].start |
33468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11887].end |
33470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11887].text |
如何去擴充這個使用的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[11888].start |
33470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11888].end |
33472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11888].text |
我認為文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11889].start |
33472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11889].end |
33474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11889].text |
也是要積極的努力這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11890].start |
33474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11890].end |
33476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11890].text |
一百三十八再來一百三十九 |
| transcript.whisperx[11891].start |
33476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11891].end |
33478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11891].text |
文化部在部長上任之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[11892].start |
33478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11892].end |
33480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11892].text |
辦了經會獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11893].start |
33480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11893].end |
33482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11893].text |
那累積了這兩年的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[11894].start |
33482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11894].end |
33484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11894].text |
我們其實有一些建議跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[11895].start |
33484.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11895].end |
33486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11895].text |
提醒我就不在這裡贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[11896].start |
33486.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11896].end |
33488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11896].text |
但是我要拜託文化部持續的把 |
| transcript.whisperx[11897].start |
33488.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11897].end |
33490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11897].text |
更多元跟豐富的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[11898].start |
33490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11898].end |
33492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11898].text |
納入經會獎當中我以舉韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[11899].start |
33492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11899].end |
33494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11899].text |
為例當韓國在 |
| transcript.whisperx[11900].start |
33494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11900].end |
33496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11900].text |
培養可以跨向 |
| transcript.whisperx[11901].start |
33496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11901].end |
33498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11901].text |
全世界的繪本畫家的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11902].start |
33498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11902].end |
33500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11902].text |
他們不會只有教內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[11903].start |
33500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11903].end |
33502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11903].text |
創作的課也不會只講過世 |
| transcript.whisperx[11904].start |
33502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11904].end |
33504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11904].text |
企劃他們甚至會談 |
| transcript.whisperx[11905].start |
33504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11905].end |
33506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11905].text |
著作權談印刷談 |
| transcript.whisperx[11906].start |
33506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11906].end |
33508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11906].text |
裝針談國內外 |
| transcript.whisperx[11907].start |
33508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11907].end |
33510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11907].text |
市場趨勢受眾讀者 |
| transcript.whisperx[11908].start |
33510.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11908].end |
33512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11908].text |
分析跨域行銷 |
| transcript.whisperx[11909].start |
33512.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11909].end |
33514.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11909].text |
或者是數位內容的創作課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[11910].start |
33514.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11910].end |
33516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11910].text |
也就是不會只有創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[11911].start |
33516.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11911].end |
33518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11911].text |
本身需要被理解這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[11912].start |
33518.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11912].end |
33520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11912].text |
文化部已經承諾未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11913].start |
33520.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11913].end |
33522.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11913].text |
會把更多種類的課程納入繪本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11914].start |
33522.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11914].end |
33524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11914].text |
學校那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11915].start |
33524.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11915].end |
33526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11915].text |
的是我們希望所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[11916].start |
33526.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11916].end |
33528.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11916].text |
台灣的經會獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11917].start |
33528.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11917].end |
33530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11917].text |
經辦獎金領獎金典獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11918].start |
33530.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11918].end |
33532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11918].text |
這些所謂的被國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[11919].start |
33532.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11919].end |
33534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11919].text |
的評審制度所選出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[11920].start |
33534.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11920].end |
33536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11920].text |
的好書都必須要納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[11921].start |
33536.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11921].end |
33538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11921].text |
採購因為過去都非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11922].start |
33538.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11922].end |
33540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11922].text |
消極我們覺得很可惜文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[11923].start |
33540.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11923].end |
33542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11923].text |
部也承諾會積極的改進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11924].start |
33542.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11924].end |
33544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11924].text |
希望後續要持續精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11925].start |
33544.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11925].end |
33546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11925].text |
再來141案當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[11926].start |
33546.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11926].end |
33548.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[11926].text |
我們主要是看到在市面上 |
| transcript.whisperx[11927].start |
33550 |
| transcript.whisperx[11927].end |
33552 |
| transcript.whisperx[11927].text |
有非常多紙書跟電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11928].start |
33552 |
| transcript.whisperx[11928].end |
33554 |
| transcript.whisperx[11928].text |
都直接可以找到是簡體 |
| transcript.whisperx[11929].start |
33554 |
| transcript.whisperx[11929].end |
33556 |
| transcript.whisperx[11929].text |
字的中文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11930].start |
33556 |
| transcript.whisperx[11930].end |
33558 |
| transcript.whisperx[11930].text |
他沒有經過申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[11931].start |
33558 |
| transcript.whisperx[11931].end |
33560 |
| transcript.whisperx[11931].text |
ISBM的過程他就直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[11932].start |
33560 |
| transcript.whisperx[11932].end |
33562 |
| transcript.whisperx[11932].text |
出版上架到電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11933].start |
33562 |
| transcript.whisperx[11933].end |
33564 |
| transcript.whisperx[11933].text |
採購平台或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11934].start |
33564 |
| transcript.whisperx[11934].end |
33566 |
| transcript.whisperx[11934].text |
到一般的書店去 |
| transcript.whisperx[11935].start |
33566 |
| transcript.whisperx[11935].end |
33568 |
| transcript.whisperx[11935].text |
當有很多作者對不起很多讀者 |
| transcript.whisperx[11936].start |
33568 |
| transcript.whisperx[11936].end |
33570 |
| transcript.whisperx[11936].text |
很多家長很多老師買來之後發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[11937].start |
33570 |
| transcript.whisperx[11937].end |
33572 |
| transcript.whisperx[11937].text |
例如說跟孩子們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11938].start |
33572 |
| transcript.whisperx[11938].end |
33574 |
| transcript.whisperx[11938].text |
交到在台灣叫教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11939].start |
33574 |
| transcript.whisperx[11939].end |
33576 |
| transcript.whisperx[11939].text |
但在中國可能不是而這些出版社 |
| transcript.whisperx[11940].start |
33576 |
| transcript.whisperx[11940].end |
33578 |
| transcript.whisperx[11940].text |
他們在出版這些書的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[11941].start |
33578 |
| transcript.whisperx[11941].end |
33580 |
| transcript.whisperx[11941].text |
完全沒有進行內容的轉譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[11942].start |
33580 |
| transcript.whisperx[11942].end |
33582 |
| transcript.whisperx[11942].text |
就直接讓這些書進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11943].start |
33582 |
| transcript.whisperx[11943].end |
33584 |
| transcript.whisperx[11943].text |
台灣的兒童讀者面前 |
| transcript.whisperx[11944].start |
33584 |
| transcript.whisperx[11944].end |
33586 |
| transcript.whisperx[11944].text |
目前文化部在這件事情的把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[11945].start |
33586 |
| transcript.whisperx[11945].end |
33588 |
| transcript.whisperx[11945].text |
非常非常的消極甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[11946].start |
33588 |
| transcript.whisperx[11946].end |
33590 |
| transcript.whisperx[11946].text |
沒有相關的法源作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[11947].start |
33590 |
| transcript.whisperx[11947].end |
33592 |
| transcript.whisperx[11947].text |
依據去協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[11948].start |
33592 |
| transcript.whisperx[11948].end |
33594 |
| transcript.whisperx[11948].text |
讀者當讀者看到這樣的書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11949].start |
33594 |
| transcript.whisperx[11949].end |
33596 |
| transcript.whisperx[11949].text |
那目前文化部的機制是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11950].start |
33596 |
| transcript.whisperx[11950].end |
33598 |
| transcript.whisperx[11950].text |
跟業者業界講好希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[11951].start |
33598 |
| transcript.whisperx[11951].end |
33600 |
| transcript.whisperx[11951].text |
業界成立所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11952].start |
33600 |
| transcript.whisperx[11952].end |
33602 |
| transcript.whisperx[11952].text |
自律平台可是自律平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[11953].start |
33602 |
| transcript.whisperx[11953].end |
33604 |
| transcript.whisperx[11953].text |
這件事情對於業界來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[11954].start |
33604 |
| transcript.whisperx[11954].end |
33606 |
| transcript.whisperx[11954].text |
可能是那麼一回事可是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11955].start |
33606 |
| transcript.whisperx[11955].end |
33608 |
| transcript.whisperx[11955].text |
對於讀者來說因為辦公室為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[11956].start |
33608 |
| transcript.whisperx[11956].end |
33610 |
| transcript.whisperx[11956].text |
我們絕對收到超過十件 |
| transcript.whisperx[11957].start |
33610 |
| transcript.whisperx[11957].end |
33612 |
| transcript.whisperx[11957].text |
以上這樣的陳情告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11958].start |
33612 |
| transcript.whisperx[11958].end |
33614 |
| transcript.whisperx[11958].text |
在市面上賣的書在電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[11959].start |
33614 |
| transcript.whisperx[11959].end |
33616 |
| transcript.whisperx[11959].text |
平台上賣的書就直接是統戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[11960].start |
33616 |
| transcript.whisperx[11960].end |
33618 |
| transcript.whisperx[11960].text |
的同書家長們老師們 |
| transcript.whisperx[11961].start |
33618 |
| transcript.whisperx[11961].end |
33620 |
| transcript.whisperx[11961].text |
認為情何以堪但文化部依然 |
| transcript.whisperx[11962].start |
33620 |
| transcript.whisperx[11962].end |
33622 |
| transcript.whisperx[11962].text |
至今沒有作為就只叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[11963].start |
33622 |
| transcript.whisperx[11963].end |
33624 |
| transcript.whisperx[11963].text |
業者成立自律平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[11964].start |
33624 |
| transcript.whisperx[11964].end |
33626 |
| transcript.whisperx[11964].text |
這件事情我們真的沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[11965].start |
33626 |
| transcript.whisperx[11965].end |
33628 |
| transcript.whisperx[11965].text |
接受我們已經開過三次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11966].start |
33628 |
| transcript.whisperx[11966].end |
33630 |
| transcript.whisperx[11966].text |
溝通會議文化部還是非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[11967].start |
33630 |
| transcript.whisperx[11967].end |
33632 |
| transcript.whisperx[11967].text |
消極所以我還是要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[11968].start |
33632 |
| transcript.whisperx[11968].end |
33634 |
| transcript.whisperx[11968].text |
提出強烈的監督要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[11969].start |
33634.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11969].end |
33636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11969].text |
今天我們可以改組決議但不 |
| transcript.whisperx[11970].start |
33636.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11970].end |
33638.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11970].text |
代表文化部在這個議題上可以讓步 |
| transcript.whisperx[11971].start |
33638.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11971].end |
33640.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11971].text |
這個事情我要再次的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[11972].start |
33640.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11972].end |
33642.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11972].text |
接下來我們談到關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[11973].start |
33642.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11973].end |
33644.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11973].text |
圖書的定價這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[11974].start |
33644.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11974].end |
33646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11974].text |
定價制度這件事情我們知道文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11975].start |
33646.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11975].end |
33648.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11975].text |
已經在研議相關的法案我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[11976].start |
33648.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11976].end |
33650.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11976].text |
後續的進度可以快速的推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[11977].start |
33650.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11977].end |
33652.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11977].text |
還有再來楊雙子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11978].start |
33652.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11978].end |
33654.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11978].text |
書得獎之後其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[11979].start |
33654.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11979].end |
33656.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11979].text |
大家開始想像有一個台灣的IP |
| transcript.whisperx[11980].start |
33656.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11980].end |
33658.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11980].text |
在其他的範圍可能性 |
| transcript.whisperx[11981].start |
33658.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11981].end |
33660.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11981].text |
的擴張這個部分也要拜託文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[11982].start |
33660.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11982].end |
33662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11982].text |
部加油再來文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[11983].start |
33662.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11983].end |
33664.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11983].text |
推出的電子書祭祀戒約 |
| transcript.whisperx[11984].start |
33664.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11984].end |
33666.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11984].text |
這件事情但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[11985].start |
33666.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11985].end |
33668.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11985].text |
祭祀戒約有沒有影響到原來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11986].start |
33668.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11986].end |
33670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11986].text |
電子書銷售也是我們所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11987].start |
33670.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11987].end |
33672.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11987].text |
我們還是希望文化部持續關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[11988].start |
33672.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11988].end |
33674.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11988].text |
那在電子書祭祀戒約還有相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11989].start |
33674.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11989].end |
33676.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11989].text |
機制我就不再贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[11990].start |
33676.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11990].end |
33678.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11990].text |
還有很多精進的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[11991].start |
33678.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11991].end |
33680.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11991].text |
再來我要幫林景文發言142 |
| transcript.whisperx[11992].start |
33680.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11992].end |
33682.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11992].text |
跟146他在提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[11993].start |
33682.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11993].end |
33684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11993].text |
楊雙子的書出版之後現在得了大獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[11994].start |
33684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11994].end |
33686.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11994].text |
那面對國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[11995].start |
33686.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11995].end |
33688.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11995].text |
訴說台灣的故事那現在甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[11996].start |
33688.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11996].end |
33690.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11996].text |
有英國的出版社在考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[11997].start |
33690.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11997].end |
33692.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11997].text |
要把楊雙子的台灣漫遊錄的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[11998].start |
33692.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11998].end |
33694.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11998].text |
變成有食譜的跟有插圖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[11999].start |
33694.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11999].end |
33696.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[11999].text |
那國際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12000].start |
33696.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12000].end |
33698.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12000].text |
有很多類似的案子例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12001].start |
33698.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12001].end |
33700.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12001].text |
像丹布朗的書秘密中的秘密 |
| transcript.whisperx[12002].start |
33700.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12002].end |
33702.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12002].text |
就以捷克為故事舞台 |
| transcript.whisperx[12003].start |
33702.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12003].end |
33704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12003].text |
那甚至掀起布拉格觀光熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[12004].start |
33704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12004].end |
33706.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12004].text |
那台灣既然有這麼一部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12005].start |
33706.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12005].end |
33708.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12005].text |
得獎的小說未來文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12006].start |
33708.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12006].end |
33710.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12006].text |
如何在這個機制上發揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[12007].start |
33710.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12007].end |
33712.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12007].text |
IP的多元跟應用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12008].start |
33712.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12008].end |
33714.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12008].text |
就算文化部不是自己組擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[12009].start |
33714.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12009].end |
33716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12009].text |
有沒有辦法透過委託案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12010].start |
33716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12010].end |
33718.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12010].text |
補助案或者是標案等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[12011].start |
33718.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12011].end |
33720.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12011].text |
讓這個IP楊雙子這本書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12012].start |
33720.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12012].end |
33722.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12012].text |
可以持續的發光發熱 |
| transcript.whisperx[12013].start |
33722.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12013].end |
33724.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12013].text |
然後進而影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12014].start |
33724.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12014].end |
33726.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12014].text |
更多台灣優秀的文學家作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[12015].start |
33726.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12015].end |
33728.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12015].text |
可以因此被看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[12016].start |
33728.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12016].end |
33730.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12016].text |
好 以上 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[12017].start |
33732.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12017].end |
33734.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12017].text |
吳佩儀委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12018].start |
33762.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12018].end |
33764.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12018].text |
不過呢 文化部這一個目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[12019].start |
33764.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12019].end |
33766.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12019].text |
BFT計畫 這可以說是我們台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12020].start |
33766.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12020].end |
33768.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12020].text |
圖書版權輸出最重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12021].start |
33768.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12021].end |
33770.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12021].text |
一個計畫 我看了一下我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12022].start |
33770.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12022].end |
33772.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12022].text |
每一年選書當中 文學 |
| transcript.whisperx[12023].start |
33772.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12023].end |
33774.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12023].text |
及風雲玄類的這個六十本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12024].start |
33774.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12024].end |
33776.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12024].text |
當中 是全一本的比例不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12025].start |
33776.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12025].end |
33778.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12025].text |
三分之一 以今年來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12026].start |
33778.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12026].end |
33780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12026].text |
我們一月公告的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12027].start |
33780.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12027].end |
33782.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12027].text |
這個補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[12028].start |
33782.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12028].end |
33784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12028].text |
就是全一本 三十本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[12029].start |
33784.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12029].end |
33786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12029].text |
只有八本 其他都是摘一本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12030].start |
33786.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12030].end |
33788.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12030].text |
就是部分的翻譯 所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12031].start |
33788.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12031].end |
33790.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12031].text |
我還是要拜託文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12032].start |
33790.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12032].end |
33792.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12032].text |
對全一本的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12033].start |
33792.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12033].end |
33794.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12033].text |
我想這個資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[12034].start |
33794.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12034].end |
33796.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12034].text |
是很值得我們去投入的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12035].start |
33796.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12035].end |
33798.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12035].text |
因為外國出版社其實對全一本的出版 |
| transcript.whisperx[12036].start |
33798.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12036].end |
33800.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12036].text |
他們興趣會比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[12037].start |
33800.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12037].end |
33802.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12037].text |
希望我們可以能夠更積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12038].start |
33802.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12038].end |
33804.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12038].text |
來去支持 讓台灣的文學 |
| transcript.whisperx[12039].start |
33804.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12039].end |
33806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12039].text |
可以被世界看見以及讀到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12040].start |
33806.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12040].end |
33808.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12040].text |
我們這麼精彩的文學 |
| transcript.whisperx[12041].start |
33808.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12041].end |
33810.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[12041].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[12042].start |
33811.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12042].end |
33813.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12042].text |
好 陳村厚委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12043].start |
33813.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12043].end |
33815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12043].text |
我的案是150億案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12044].start |
33815.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12044].end |
33817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12044].text |
那我來做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[12045].start |
33817.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12045].end |
33819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12045].text |
中央社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12046].start |
33819.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12046].end |
33821.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12046].text |
至於四聚國家通信 |
| transcript.whisperx[12047].start |
33823.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12047].end |
33825.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12047].text |
通信社及公共新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[12048].start |
33825.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12048].end |
33827.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12048].text |
服務功能 那相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[12049].start |
33827.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12049].end |
33829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12049].text |
監柱呢 有其那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12050].start |
33829.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12050].end |
33831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12050].text |
它的制度的一個必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[12051].start |
33831.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12051].end |
33833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12051].text |
因為最近 近年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12052].start |
33833.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12052].end |
33835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12052].text |
營運短促 |
| transcript.whisperx[12053].start |
33835.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12053].end |
33837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12053].text |
那駐外成本 還有新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[12054].start |
33837.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12054].end |
33839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12054].text |
的產出 人力的配置 還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[12055].start |
33839.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12055].end |
33841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12055].text |
自所收入及政府補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[12056].start |
33841.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12056].end |
33843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12056].text |
依存度 |
| transcript.whisperx[12057].start |
33843.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12057].end |
33845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12057].text |
都應該要受檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[12058].start |
33845.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12058].end |
33847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12058].text |
那文化部應該要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[12059].start |
33847.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12059].end |
33849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12059].text |
公共任務成本的一個揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[12060].start |
33849.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12060].end |
33851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12060].text |
還有財務的一個改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[12061].start |
33851.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12061].end |
33853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12061].text |
跟內容的一個績效的一個指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[12062].start |
33853.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12062].end |
33855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12062].text |
那這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[12063].start |
33855.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12063].end |
33857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12063].text |
我是凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[12064].start |
33857.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12064].end |
33859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12064].text |
一千萬 那等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12065].start |
33859.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12065].end |
33861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12065].text |
聽了說明之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12066].start |
33861.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12066].end |
33863.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12066].text |
我再來處理 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12067].start |
33866.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12067].end |
33868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12067].text |
好 下一位陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12068].start |
33868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12068].end |
33870.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12068].text |
謝謝主席 在這邊我的案子是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12069].start |
33870.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12069].end |
33872.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12069].text |
第137案及143案 |
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33872.3 |
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137案的部分 |
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33874.3 |
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33876.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12071].text |
是關於我們國家語言發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[12072].start |
33876.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12072].end |
33878.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12072].text |
其實最近 |
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| transcript.whisperx[12073].text |
不是最近 就一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[12074].start |
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33882.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12074].text |
最近起呢 因為整個AI |
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33882.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12075].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[12075].text |
的發展 那很多國際 |
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33884.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12076].end |
33886.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12076].text |
科技公司的執行長 頻繁的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12077].start |
33886.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12077].end |
33888.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12077].text |
來台 那其實在新聞的影片當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[12078].start |
33888.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12078].end |
33890.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12078].text |
我們都可以看到 他們其實很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[12079].start |
33890.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12079].end |
33892.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12079].text |
時候是用台語在交談 |
| transcript.whisperx[12080].start |
33892.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12080].end |
33894.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12080].text |
也引發就是說 很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[12081].start |
33894.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12081].end |
33896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12081].text |
民眾對這個台語使用的熱潮 |
| transcript.whisperx[12082].start |
33896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12082].end |
33898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12082].text |
也會覺得說 因為他們旅居在外的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12083].start |
33898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12083].end |
33900.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12083].text |
在外發展的 其實他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12084].start |
33900.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12084].end |
33902.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12084].text |
回到國內 甚至說其實他們平常在 |
| transcript.whisperx[12085].start |
33902.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12085].end |
33904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12085].text |
討論的時候 用到台語的機率 |
| transcript.whisperx[12086].start |
33904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12086].end |
33906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12086].text |
是非常的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[12087].start |
33906.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12087].end |
33908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12087].text |
那因為這樣子的 形成一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12088].start |
33908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12088].end |
33910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12088].text |
台語的熱潮的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[12089].start |
33910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12089].end |
33912.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12089].text |
本席以希望文化部應該思考如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[12090].start |
33912.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12090].end |
33914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12090].text |
藉著這個風潮來推廣台語的使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12091].start |
33914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12091].end |
33916.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12091].text |
那我們會這邊也要來說明說 目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[12092].start |
33916.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12092].end |
33918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12092].text |
有辦理這個培育台語家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[12093].start |
33918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12093].end |
33920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12093].text |
的計畫 今年預計辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[12094].start |
33920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12094].end |
33922.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12094].text |
三場的這個拼台語巡迴展 |
| transcript.whisperx[12095].start |
33922.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12095].end |
33924.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12095].text |
也會邀請頓會青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[12096].start |
33924.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12096].end |
33926.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12096].text |
創作者來分享台語學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[12097].start |
33926.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12097].end |
33928.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12097].text |
本席覺得說 文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12098].start |
33928.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12098].end |
33930.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12098].text |
是國家語言保存的主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[12099].start |
33930.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12099].end |
33932.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12099].text |
是一個應該 訂定 |
| transcript.whisperx[12100].start |
33932.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12100].end |
33934.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12100].text |
目標來提升台語的使用度 |
| transcript.whisperx[12101].start |
33934.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12101].end |
33936.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12101].text |
針對不同的年齡層 |
| transcript.whisperx[12102].start |
33936.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12102].end |
33938.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12102].text |
不同的族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[12103].start |
33938.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12103].end |
33940.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12103].text |
不同的使用者 |
| transcript.whisperx[12104].start |
33940.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12104].end |
33942.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12104].text |
我們來訂不一樣的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[12105].start |
33942.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12105].end |
33944.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12105].text |
而且不一樣的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12106].start |
33944.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12106].end |
33946.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12106].text |
就是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12107].start |
33946.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12107].end |
33948.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12107].text |
不同的目標 不同的提升的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[12108].start |
33948.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12108].end |
33950.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12108].text |
那來作為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12109].start |
33950.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12109].end |
33952.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12109].text |
推動台語附贈計畫的這個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[12110].start |
33952.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12110].end |
33954.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12110].text |
那我再呼應一下 剛才培育委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12111].start |
33954.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12111].end |
33956.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12111].text |
就是關於這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12112].start |
33956.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12112].end |
33958.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12112].text |
簡體字版的同書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12113].start |
33958.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12113].end |
33960.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12113].text |
其實之前我是質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12114].start |
33960.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12114].end |
33962.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12114].text |
教育部的時候有問過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12115].start |
33962.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12115].end |
33964.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12115].text |
就很多又有數不完是在教 |
| transcript.whisperx[12116].start |
33964.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12116].end |
33966.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12116].text |
筆順的 筆畫的 認圖的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12117].start |
33966.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12117].end |
33968.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12117].text |
認字的圖卡 那其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12118].start |
33968.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12118].end |
33970.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12118].text |
要找繁體字的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12119].start |
33970.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12119].end |
33972.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12119].text |
很少 很難找 |
| transcript.whisperx[12120].start |
33972.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12120].end |
33974.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12120].text |
但是網路上很容易就可以買到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12121].start |
33974.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12121].end |
33976.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[12121].text |
簡體字的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12122].start |
33977.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12122].end |
33979.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12122].text |
我當時有請教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12123].start |
33979.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12123].end |
33981.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12123].text |
也是去 |
| transcript.whisperx[12124].start |
33981.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12124].end |
33983.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12124].text |
就是來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12125].start |
33982.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12125].end |
33984.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12125].text |
推廣 就是有這樣子的出版社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12126].start |
33984.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12126].end |
33986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12126].text |
願意來出版這樣的同書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12127].start |
33986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12127].end |
33988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12127].text |
提供給我們的孩子來使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12128].start |
33988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12128].end |
33990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12128].text |
但是好像這個是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12129].start |
33990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12129].end |
33992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12129].text |
因為它不是沒有市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[12130].start |
33992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12130].end |
33994.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12130].text |
那到底為什麼我們沒有去發展出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12131].start |
33994.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12131].end |
33996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12131].text |
就是這樣子繁體字的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12132].start |
33996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12132].end |
33998.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12132].text |
我們的同書來讓家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12133].start |
33998.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12133].end |
34000.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12133].text |
買給孩子使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[12134].start |
34000.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12134].end |
34002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12134].text |
讓孩子閱讀 是不是說我們文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12135].start |
34002.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12135].end |
34004.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12135].text |
這邊也要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12136].start |
34004.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12136].end |
34006.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12136].text |
請我們的相關的出版業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[12137].start |
34006.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12137].end |
34008.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12137].text |
來研議研發 |
| transcript.whisperx[12138].start |
34008.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12138].end |
34010.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12138].text |
就是說可以適合我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[12139].start |
34010.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12139].end |
34012.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12139].text |
的孩子所使用的這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[12140].start |
34012.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12140].end |
34014.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12140].text |
繁體字的版本 還有適合我們國情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12141].start |
34014.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12141].end |
34016.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12141].text |
適合我們的用詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[12142].start |
34016.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12142].end |
34018.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12142].text |
適合我們生活習慣的這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[12143].start |
34018.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12143].end |
34020.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12143].text |
的同書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12144].start |
34020.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12144].end |
34022.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12144].text |
140案的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12145].start |
34022.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12145].end |
34024.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12145].text |
是關於出版世界是福島 |
| transcript.whisperx[12146].start |
34024.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12146].end |
34026.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12146].text |
裡面的公共出借權 |
| transcript.whisperx[12147].start |
34026.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12147].end |
34028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12147].text |
的這個業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[12148].start |
34028.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12148].end |
34030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12148].text |
那辦理公共出借權第二階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[12149].start |
34030.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12149].end |
34032.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12149].text |
事辦計畫 我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[12150].start |
34032.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12150].end |
34034.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12150].text |
第二期 |
| transcript.whisperx[12151].start |
34034.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12151].end |
34036.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12151].text |
就是114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[12152].start |
34036.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12152].end |
34038.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12152].text |
9月到12月的補償金 |
| transcript.whisperx[12153].start |
34038.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12153].end |
34040.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12153].text |
完成發放 |
| transcript.whisperx[12154].start |
34040.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12154].end |
34042.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12154].text |
高達1800多萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[12155].start |
34042.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12155].end |
34044.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12155].text |
有超過4000位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12156].start |
34044.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12156].end |
34046.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12156].text |
著作者以及221家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12157].start |
34046.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12157].end |
34048.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12157].text |
這個出版社是受惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[12158].start |
34048.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12158].end |
34050.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12158].text |
也較第一期的發放數是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12159].start |
34050.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12159].end |
34052.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12159].text |
增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12160].start |
34052.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12160].end |
34054.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12160].text |
那既然我們公共出借權的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[12161].start |
34054.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12161].end |
34056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12161].text |
推動以來是廣受民眾好評 |
| transcript.whisperx[12162].start |
34056.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12162].end |
34058.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12162].text |
也讓許多著作人及 |
| transcript.whisperx[12163].start |
34058.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12163].end |
34060.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12163].text |
出版社受惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[12164].start |
34060.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12164].end |
34062.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12164].text |
所以你們來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12165].start |
34062.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12165].end |
34064.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12165].text |
今年編列的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12166].start |
34064.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12166].end |
34066.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12166].text |
2200萬也已經全數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12167].start |
34066.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12167].end |
34068.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12167].text |
申請完畢喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12168].start |
34068.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12168].end |
34070.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12168].text |
表示說這個公共出借權的這個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[12169].start |
34070.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12169].end |
34072.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12169].text |
辦理成效是很優異的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12170].start |
34072.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12170].end |
34074.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12170].text |
我想請教一下說未來有沒有擴大辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12171].start |
34074.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12171].end |
34076.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12171].text |
的這個規劃 等一下也請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12172].start |
34076.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12172].end |
34078.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[12172].text |
說明喔 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12173].start |
34081.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12173].end |
34083.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12173].text |
好 郭局委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12174].start |
34083.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12174].end |
34085.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12174].text |
好 這個部分我是136 |
| transcript.whisperx[12175].start |
34085.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12175].end |
34087.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12175].text |
跟153喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12176].start |
34087.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12176].end |
34089.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12176].text |
那136的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12177].start |
34089.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12177].end |
34091.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12177].text |
就是國家語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12178].start |
34091.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12178].end |
34093.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12178].text |
研究發展中心的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[12179].start |
34093.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12179].end |
34095.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12179].text |
其實還沒有完成法制的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12180].start |
34095.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12180].end |
34097.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12180].text |
作業啦 那基本上在 |
| transcript.whisperx[12181].start |
34097.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12181].end |
34099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12181].text |
這個語言能力的一個認證還有家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[12182].start |
34099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12182].end |
34101.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12182].text |
還有社區的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12183].start |
34101.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12183].end |
34103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12183].text |
推廣的機制其實還是有待 |
| transcript.whisperx[12184].start |
34103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12184].end |
34105.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12184].text |
要再更精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[12185].start |
34105.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12185].end |
34107.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12185].text |
那雖然文化部這邊有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12186].start |
34107.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12186].end |
34109.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12186].text |
報告喔 但是我想還是請 |
| transcript.whisperx[12187].start |
34109.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12187].end |
34111.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12187].text |
文化部這邊還是說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12188].start |
34111.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12188].end |
34113.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12188].text |
就是國家語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12189].start |
34112.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12189].end |
34114.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12189].text |
研究發展中心的一個設置的一個進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[12190].start |
34114.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12190].end |
34116.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12190].text |
那另外就是將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12191].start |
34116.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12191].end |
34118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12191].text |
還是要再 |
| transcript.whisperx[12192].start |
34118.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12192].end |
34120.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12192].text |
繼續的這個強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[12193].start |
34120.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12193].end |
34122.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12193].text |
跟地方的一些合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[12194].start |
34122.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12194].end |
34124.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12194].text |
能夠完成這個推廣還有追蹤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12195].start |
34124.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12195].end |
34126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12195].text |
一個成效啊 我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12196].start |
34126.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12196].end |
34128.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12196].text |
其實還蠻重要的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12197].start |
34128.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12197].end |
34130.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12197].text |
那在100 |
| transcript.whisperx[12198].start |
34131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12198].end |
34133.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12198].text |
153的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12199].start |
34133.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12199].end |
34135.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12199].text |
是國家漫畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[12200].start |
34135.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12200].end |
34137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12200].text |
博物館的籌備 |
| transcript.whisperx[12201].start |
34137.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12201].end |
34139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12201].text |
跟營運的一個狀況喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12202].start |
34139.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12202].end |
34141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12202].text |
那還有另外就是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[12203].start |
34141.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12203].end |
34143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12203].text |
於我們的典藏的業務還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[12204].start |
34143.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12204].end |
34145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12204].text |
典藏的空間不足的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12205].start |
34145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12205].end |
34147.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12205].text |
這樣子的一個現象 |
| transcript.whisperx[12206].start |
34147.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12206].end |
34149.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12206].text |
那雖然也有來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12207].start |
34149.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12207].end |
34151.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12207].text |
做說明但是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12208].start |
34151.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12208].end |
34153.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12208].text |
我想未來應該要如何來提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[12209].start |
34153.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12209].end |
34155.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12209].text |
這個展覽的內容還有怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12210].start |
34155.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12210].end |
34157.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12210].text |
來精進那個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12211].start |
34157.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12211].end |
34159.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12211].text |
典藏的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12212].start |
34159.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12212].end |
34161.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12212].text |
政策跟空間上的一個優化 |
| transcript.whisperx[12213].start |
34161.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12213].end |
34163.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12213].text |
這個部分還是等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12214].start |
34163.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12214].end |
34165.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12214].text |
可以請這邊來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[12215].start |
34165.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12215].end |
34167.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12215].text |
一下喔 那有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[12216].start |
34167.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12216].end |
34169.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12216].text |
特別堅持一定要凍結喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12217].start |
34169.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12217].end |
34171.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12217].text |
本來是凍結這個80萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[12218].start |
34171.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12218].end |
34173.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12218].text |
那這個部分等一下說明之後我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12219].start |
34173.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12219].end |
34175.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12219].text |
再一併來處理 好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12220].start |
34178.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12220].end |
34180.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[12220].text |
好 安門委員有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[12221].start |
34183.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12221].end |
34185.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[12221].text |
好 我自己是135案喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12222].start |
34188.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12222].end |
34190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12222].text |
我想我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[12223].start |
34190.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12223].end |
34192.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12223].text |
對於這個中央通訊社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12224].start |
34192.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12224].end |
34194.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12224].text |
國家語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12225].start |
34194.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12225].end |
34196.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12225].text |
發展中心籌備 |
| transcript.whisperx[12226].start |
34196.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12226].end |
34198.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12226].text |
還有中央通訊社捐助等 |
| transcript.whisperx[12227].start |
34198.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12227].end |
34200.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12227].text |
事項人文及出版 |
| transcript.whisperx[12228].start |
34200.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[12228].end |
34202.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[12228].text |
推廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12229].start |
34202.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12229].end |
34204.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12229].text |
閱讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[12230].start |
34203.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12230].end |
34205.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12230].text |
產業出版 |
| transcript.whisperx[12231].start |
34205.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12231].end |
34207.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12231].text |
文學創作國家語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[12232].start |
34207.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12232].end |
34209.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12232].text |
公共資訊傳播 |
| transcript.whisperx[12233].start |
34209.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12233].end |
34211.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12233].text |
我想都要兼顧產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12234].start |
34211.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12234].end |
34213.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12234].text |
永續跟公共性 |
| transcript.whisperx[12235].start |
34213.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12235].end |
34215.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12235].text |
近年來我們在文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[12236].start |
34215.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12236].end |
34217.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12236].text |
預算的審議書店 |
| transcript.whisperx[12237].start |
34217.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12237].end |
34219.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12237].text |
出版的補助文學 |
| transcript.whisperx[12238].start |
34219.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12238].end |
34221.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12238].text |
講助那以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[12239].start |
34221.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12239].end |
34223.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12239].text |
國家語言政策均被納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[12240].start |
34223.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12240].end |
34225.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[12240].text |
公共的討論但特定的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[12241].start |
34226.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12241].end |
34228.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12241].text |
出版活動或者是文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[12242].start |
34228.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12242].end |
34230.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12242].text |
工作者呢 人被 |
| transcript.whisperx[12243].start |
34230.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12243].end |
34232.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12243].text |
置於政治工坊的一個脈絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[12244].start |
34232.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12244].end |
34234.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12244].text |
所以文化部更應該公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[12245].start |
34234.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12245].end |
34236.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12245].text |
資料說明補助的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12246].start |
34236.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12246].end |
34238.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12246].text |
審查標準的時候呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12247].start |
34238.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12247].end |
34240.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12247].text |
以及受益的分佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[12248].start |
34240.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12248].end |
34242.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12248].text |
我們都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[12249].start |
34242.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12249].end |
34244.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12249].text |
能夠支持文化工作者 |
| transcript.whisperx[12250].start |
34244.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12250].end |
34246.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12250].text |
但是不要用支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12251].start |
34246.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12251].end |
34248.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12251].text |
文化工作者的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[12252].start |
34248.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12252].end |
34250.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[12252].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12253].start |
34250.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12253].end |
34252.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12253].text |
讓我們看到這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12254].start |
34252.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12254].end |
34254.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12254].text |
沒有加以多做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[12255].start |
34254.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12255].end |
34256.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12255].text |
受益的平均 |
| transcript.whisperx[12256].start |
34256.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12256].end |
34258.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12256].text |
讓大家都能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[12257].start |
34258.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12257].end |
34260.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12257].text |
語錄均沾喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12258].start |
34260.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12258].end |
34262.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12258].text |
我想令出版產業也面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[12259].start |
34262.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12259].end |
34264.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12259].text |
實體書店喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12260].start |
34264.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12260].end |
34266.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12260].text |
經營困難數位閱讀的成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12261].start |
34266.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12261].end |
34268.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12261].text |
版權輸出的不足喔 翻譯人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[12262].start |
34268.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12262].end |
34270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12262].text |
以及國際通路 |
| transcript.whisperx[12263].start |
34270.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12263].end |
34272.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12263].text |
有限的一個問題 所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[12264].start |
34272.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12264].end |
34274.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12264].text |
預算大幅的增加卻為建立成效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12265].start |
34274.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12265].end |
34276.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12265].text |
指標恐難真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[12266].start |
34276.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12266].end |
34278.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12266].text |
來協助到產業轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[12267].start |
34278.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12267].end |
34280.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12267].text |
予以凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[12268].start |
34280.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12268].end |
34282.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12268].text |
那100萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[12269].start |
34282.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12269].end |
34284.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12269].text |
那也希望說文化部能夠就這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12270].start |
34284.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12270].end |
34286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12270].text |
好好的來做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12271].start |
34286.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12271].end |
34288.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12271].text |
策劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[12272].start |
34288.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12272].end |
34290.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12272].text |
成效指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[12273].start |
34290.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12273].end |
34292.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12273].text |
讓產業真正能夠轉型 |
| transcript.whisperx[12274].start |
34292.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12274].end |
34294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12274].text |
讓實體書店能夠真正被支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12275].start |
34294.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12275].end |
34296.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12275].text |
讓這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[12276].start |
34296.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12276].end |
34298.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12276].text |
國家語言政策也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12277].start |
34298.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12277].end |
34300.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12277].text |
文學的漫畫講助 |
| transcript.whisperx[12278].start |
34300.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12278].end |
34302.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12278].text |
能夠真正的讓大家語錄均沾 |
| transcript.whisperx[12279].start |
34302.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12279].end |
34304.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12279].text |
我想這個東西都是我們現在很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[12280].start |
34304.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12280].end |
34306.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[12280].text |
所以提出此案 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12281].start |
34308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[12281].end |
34310.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[12281].text |
好 請部長回 |
| transcript.whisperx[12282].start |
34310.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12282].end |
34311.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12282].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[12283].start |
34311.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12283].end |
34313.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12283].text |
我想說人文出版這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12284].start |
34313.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12284].end |
34315.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12284].text |
我想這幾年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12285].start |
34315.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12285].end |
34318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12285].text |
大家非常明顯看到我們的進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[12286].start |
34318.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12286].end |
34320.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12286].text |
包括我們的文化幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12287].start |
34320.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12287].end |
34322.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12287].text |
幫助書店可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[12288].start |
34322.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12288].end |
34324.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12288].text |
包括獨立書店可以維持營運 |
| transcript.whisperx[12289].start |
34324.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12289].end |
34326.79 |
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我們在書店 |
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34326.79 |
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34328.79 |
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借書的補償金 |
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34328.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12291].end |
34330.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12291].text |
作者可以得到 |
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34330.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12292].end |
34332.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12292].text |
那個回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[12293].start |
34332.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12293].end |
34334.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12293].text |
還有剛剛提到 |
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34334.79 |
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34336.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12294].text |
繪本學校 其實我們也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12295].start |
34336.79 |
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34338.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12295].text |
課程裡面不只只有教繪本 |
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34338.79 |
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34340.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12296].text |
我們還有教著作權 |
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34340.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12297].end |
34342.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12297].text |
還有教行銷印刷 |
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34342.79 |
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34344.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12298].text |
第一屆繪本學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[12299].start |
34344.79 |
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34346.79 |
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已經有作品 |
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34346.79 |
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34348.79 |
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被全世界最大的 |
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34348.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12301].end |
34350.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12301].text |
版權買走了 |
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34350.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12302].end |
34352.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12302].text |
整個英語版權 |
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34352.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12303].end |
34354.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12303].text |
所以基本上我們在很短時間內 |
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34354.79 |
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34356.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12304].text |
已經看到了 |
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34356.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12305].end |
34358.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12305].text |
這個人文出版方面的 |
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34358.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12306].end |
34360.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12306].text |
那個快速的改變 |
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34360.79 |
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34362.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12307].text |
尤其是楊雙子得獎以後 |
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34362.79 |
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34364.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12308].text |
他讓台灣的這個 |
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34364.79 |
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34366.79 |
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書的那個 |
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34366.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12310].end |
34368.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12310].text |
在國際上得獎的概率 |
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34368.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12311].end |
34370.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12311].text |
突然提高很高 |
| transcript.whisperx[12312].start |
34370.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12312].end |
34372.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12312].text |
所以剛剛提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12313].start |
34372.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12313].end |
34374.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12313].text |
用他這個台灣漫遊做IP |
| transcript.whisperx[12314].start |
34374.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12314].end |
34376.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12314].text |
這件事情我們非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[12315].start |
34376.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12315].end |
34378.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12315].text |
我甚至於單獨跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[12316].start |
34378.79 |
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34380.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12316].text |
楊雙子見了面 |
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34380.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12317].end |
34382.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12317].text |
跟他講說這個IP太重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[12318].start |
34382.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12318].end |
34384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12318].text |
因為他可以轉譯成漫畫 |
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34384.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12319].end |
34386.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12319].text |
電影電視 |
| transcript.whisperx[12320].start |
34386.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12320].end |
34388.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12320].text |
等等喔 他也都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[12321].start |
34388.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12321].end |
34390.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12321].text |
所以在跨域方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[12322].start |
34390.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12322].end |
34392.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12322].text |
我們也做了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[12323].start |
34392.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12323].end |
34394.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12323].text |
希望文學作品 |
| transcript.whisperx[12324].start |
34394.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12324].end |
34396.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12324].text |
漫畫繪本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12325].start |
34396.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12325].end |
34398.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12325].text |
可以因為跨域之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12326].start |
34398.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12326].end |
34400.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12326].text |
可以跟影視動畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[12327].start |
34400.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12327].end |
34402.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12327].text |
結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[12328].start |
34402.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12328].end |
34404.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12328].text |
這是我一開始整體來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[12329].start |
34404.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12329].end |
34406.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12329].text |
還有一些細節我想請 |
| transcript.whisperx[12330].start |
34406.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12330].end |
34408.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12330].text |
請那個師長來解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[12331].start |
34409.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[12331].end |
34411.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[12331].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12332].start |
34411.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12332].end |
34413.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12332].text |
好 針對135題的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12333].start |
34413.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12333].end |
34415.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12333].text |
委員提到有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[12334].start |
34415.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12334].end |
34417.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12334].text |
就是關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[12335].start |
34417.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12335].end |
34419.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12335].text |
閱讀推廣出版產業的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12336].start |
34422.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12336].end |
34424.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12336].text |
就是要兼顧到創作自由產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[12337].start |
34424.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12337].end |
34426.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12337].text |
永續跟公共性 |
| transcript.whisperx[12338].start |
34426.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12338].end |
34428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12338].text |
還有要公開資料說明補助的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12339].start |
34428.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12339].end |
34430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12339].text |
審查標準這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12340].start |
34430.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12340].end |
34432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12340].text |
那文化部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12341].start |
34432.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12341].end |
34434.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12341].text |
我們為了支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12342].start |
34434.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12342].end |
34436.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12342].text |
出版產業的發展還有國家語言政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[12343].start |
34436.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12343].end |
34438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12343].text |
公共資訊傳播等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[12344].start |
34438.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12344].end |
34440.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12344].text |
我們也推動了包含像 |
| transcript.whisperx[12345].start |
34440.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12345].end |
34442.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12345].text |
出版振興方案還有匯聚台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12346].start |
34442.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12346].end |
34444.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12346].text |
文化黑潮計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[12347].start |
34444.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12347].end |
34446.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12347].text |
國家語言發展方案等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[12348].start |
34446.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12348].end |
34448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12348].text |
來扶持創作能量跟人才賠率 |
| transcript.whisperx[12349].start |
34448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12349].end |
34450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12349].text |
那也推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12350].start |
34450.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12350].end |
34452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12350].text |
還有協助出版業的行銷國際 |
| transcript.whisperx[12351].start |
34452.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12351].end |
34454.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12351].text |
並透過就是各項語言的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12352].start |
34454.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12352].end |
34456.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12352].text |
附贈來推動國家語言的承傳 |
| transcript.whisperx[12353].start |
34456.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12353].end |
34458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12353].text |
那上面的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12354].start |
34458.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12354].end |
34460.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12354].text |
我們也有一些執行的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[12355].start |
34460.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12355].end |
34462.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12355].text |
譬如說像我們第一屆的新秀獎勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[12356].start |
34462.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12356].end |
34464.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12356].text |
我們獲得獎勵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12357].start |
34464.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12357].end |
34466.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12357].text |
30名 |
| transcript.whisperx[12358].start |
34466.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12358].end |
34468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12358].text |
獲得獎勵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12359].start |
34468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12359].end |
34470.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12359].text |
30名的新秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[12360].start |
34470.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12360].end |
34472.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[12360].text |
已經有4件 |
| transcript.whisperx[12361].start |
34472.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12361].end |
34474.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12361].text |
已經出版了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12362].start |
34474.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12362].end |
34476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12362].text |
簽約的已經有6件了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12363].start |
34476.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12363].end |
34478.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12363].text |
準備簽約也有12件 |
| transcript.whisperx[12364].start |
34478.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12364].end |
34480.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12364].text |
再來就是針對獎勵文學創作的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12365].start |
34480.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12365].end |
34482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12365].text |
到115年我們也核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[12366].start |
34482.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12366].end |
34484.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12366].text |
到115年我們已經核定了395件 |
| transcript.whisperx[12367].start |
34484.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12367].end |
34486.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12367].text |
其中有99件 |
| transcript.whisperx[12368].start |
34486.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12368].end |
34488.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12368].text |
我們也已經出版了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12369].start |
34488.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12369].end |
34490.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12369].text |
48件我們也獲得了出版的合約 |
| transcript.whisperx[12370].start |
34490.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12370].end |
34492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12370].text |
影視合約還有線上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12371].start |
34492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12371].end |
34494.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12371].text |
一個平台連載 |
| transcript.whisperx[12372].start |
34494.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12372].end |
34496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12372].text |
甚至還有舞台劇的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12373].start |
34496.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12373].end |
34498.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12373].text |
形式的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[12374].start |
34498.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12374].end |
34500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12374].text |
像就是剛獲得不可獎的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12375].start |
34500.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12375].end |
34502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12375].text |
楊雙子的台灣漫遊錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[12376].start |
34502.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12376].end |
34504.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12376].text |
也是獲得這個獎助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12377].start |
34504.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12377].end |
34506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12377].text |
再來我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[12378].start |
34506.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12378].end |
34508.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12378].text |
在漫畫的輔導鏡的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12379].start |
34508.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12379].end |
34510.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12379].text |
也發行了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12380].start |
34510.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12380].end |
34512.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12380].text |
也補助了將近就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12381].start |
34512.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12381].end |
34514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12381].text |
850本的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12382].start |
34514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12382].end |
34516.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12382].text |
針對就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12383].start |
34516.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12383].end |
34518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12383].text |
公共圖書提供圖書戒約 |
| transcript.whisperx[12384].start |
34518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12384].end |
34520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12384].text |
服務的時候也保障到作者的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[12385].start |
34520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12385].end |
34522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12385].text |
鼓勵文化的創作 |
| transcript.whisperx[12386].start |
34522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12386].end |
34524.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12386].text |
所以我們辦理了第二階段的公共租借權 |
| transcript.whisperx[12387].start |
34524.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12387].end |
34526.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12387].text |
第一期的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[12388].start |
34526.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12388].end |
34528.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12388].text |
我們其實也發於了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12389].start |
34528.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12389].end |
34530.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12389].text |
23家的出版社超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12390].start |
34530.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12390].end |
34532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12390].text |
2500位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12391].start |
34532.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12391].end |
34534.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12391].text |
著作人總共是1410萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[12392].start |
34534.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12392].end |
34536.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12392].text |
那第二期我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[12393].start |
34536.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12393].end |
34538.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12393].text |
就是發於了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12394].start |
34538.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12394].end |
34540.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12394].text |
221家的出版社超過4000位 |
| transcript.whisperx[12395].start |
34540.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12395].end |
34542.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12395].text |
著作人總共是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12396].start |
34542.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12396].end |
34544.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12396].text |
1847萬那以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12397].start |
34544.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12397].end |
34546.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12397].text |
這些獎補助其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[12398].start |
34546.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12398].end |
34548.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12398].text |
我們已經有將相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[12399].start |
34548.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12399].end |
34550.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12399].text |
的資訊公開在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12400].start |
34550.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12400].end |
34552.32 |
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文化部的獎補助的資訊網 |
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34552.32 |
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34554.32 |
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也都有明定審查的一個標準 |
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34554.32 |
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34556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12402].text |
跟評分那我們也會按照 |
| transcript.whisperx[12403].start |
34556.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12403].end |
34558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12403].text |
規定就是公布審查委員的 |
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34558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12404].end |
34560.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12404].text |
名單跟效率還有評估 |
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34560.32 |
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34562.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12405].text |
等資訊那委員 |
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34562.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12406].end |
34564.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12406].text |
希望我們訂立相關的 |
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34564.32 |
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34566.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12407].text |
成效指標的部分我們也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12408].start |
34566.32 |
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34568.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12408].text |
持續的努力 |
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34570.48 |
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34572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[12409].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12410].start |
34571.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12410].end |
34573.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12410].text |
那 二號委員發言陳秘委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[12411].start |
34576.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12411].end |
34578.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12411].text |
所以司長你還是沒有回答到我的問題 |
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34578.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12412].end |
34580.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12412].text |
還是我們請部長說清楚嗎 |
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34582.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12413].end |
34584.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12413].text |
還沒講完喔 |
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34584.09 |
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34586.09 |
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不好意思你的斷點 |
| transcript.whisperx[12415].start |
34586.09 |
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34588.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12415].text |
剛剛有講到我的我問一下 |
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34588.09 |
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34590.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12416].text |
我剛剛有問說你們會不會規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[12417].start |
34590.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12417].end |
34592.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12417].text |
擴大辦理關於這個出借權 |
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34592.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12418].end |
34594.09 |
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的計畫 |
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34594.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12419].end |
34596.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12419].text |
這個部分會擴大辦理而且我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12420].start |
34596.09 |
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34598.09 |
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就是甚至是數位的 |
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34598.09 |
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34600.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12421].text |
公共出借權的部分我們都在考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[12422].start |
34603.26 |
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34605.26 |
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好那請依陳培育委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12423].start |
34605.26 |
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34607.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12423].text |
回答 |
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34607.26 |
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34609.26 |
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那針對陳培育委員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12425].start |
34610.96 |
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34612.96 |
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我們就是有關於台語的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12426].start |
34612.96 |
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34614.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[12426].text |
那個就是使用比例的部分 |
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34614.96 |
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34616.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[12427].text |
我們在所有的要點 |
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34616.96 |
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34618.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[12428].text |
都有規定就是 |
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34618.96 |
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34620.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[12429].text |
名定就是使用語言的 |
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34620.96 |
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34622.96 |
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使用比例那像學習家庭 |
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34624.05 |
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34626.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12431].text |
像縣市推動那個台語家庭的補助我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[12432].start |
34626.05 |
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34628.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12432].text |
像學習家庭就有規定 |
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34628.05 |
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34630.05 |
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要百分之六十 |
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34630.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12434].end |
34632.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12434].text |
那文化家庭就規定百分之九十 |
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34632.05 |
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34634.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12435].text |
那除此之外我們也會 |
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34634.05 |
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34636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12436].text |
委託就是包含像那個輔導團隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[12437].start |
34636.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12437].end |
34638.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[12437].text |
來陪伴實地的訪視 |
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34640 |
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34642 |
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就實行的情形我們會就 |
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34642 |
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34644 |
| transcript.whisperx[12439].text |
語言使用比例等等給予專業意見 |
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34644 |
| transcript.whisperx[12440].end |
34646 |
| transcript.whisperx[12440].text |
然後希望能夠得到一個 |
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34646 |
| transcript.whisperx[12441].end |
34648 |
| transcript.whisperx[12441].text |
預期的成效還有整體的語言的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12442].start |
34648 |
| transcript.whisperx[12442].end |
34650 |
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一個提升的專業 |
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34650 |
| transcript.whisperx[12443].end |
34652 |
| transcript.whisperx[12443].text |
然後再來就是針對 |
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34652 |
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34654 |
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委員提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12445].start |
34654 |
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34656 |
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的會本的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12446].start |
34660.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12446].end |
34662.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12446].text |
有關於委員希望能夠在我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12447].start |
34662.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12447].end |
34664.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12447].text |
會本及圖文學校的部分增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[12448].start |
34664.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12448].end |
34666.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12448].text |
包含像市場分析全球趨勢等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12449].start |
34666.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12449].end |
34668.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12449].text |
這樣的課程我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12450].start |
34668.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12450].end |
34670.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12450].text |
委員意見納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[12451].start |
34670.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12451].end |
34672.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12451].text |
那再來就是有關於就是 |
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34672.32 |
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34674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12452].text |
就是 |
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34674.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12453].end |
34676.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12453].text |
就是 |
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34676.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12454].end |
34678.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12454].text |
就是 |
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34678.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12455].end |
34680.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12455].text |
就是 |
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34680.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12456].end |
34682.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12456].text |
就是 |
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34682.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12457].end |
34684.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12457].text |
就是 |
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34684.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12458].end |
34686.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12458].text |
就是 |
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34686.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12459].end |
34688.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[12459].text |
就是 |
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34676.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12460].end |
34678.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12460].text |
就是 |
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34678.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12461].end |
34680.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12461].text |
就是 |
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34680.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12462].end |
34682.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12462].text |
就是 |
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34682.7 |
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34684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12463].text |
就是 |
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34684.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12464].end |
34686.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12464].text |
就是 |
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34686.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12465].end |
34688.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12465].text |
就是 |
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34688.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12466].end |
34690.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12466].text |
就是 |
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34690.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12467].end |
34692.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12467].text |
就是 |
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34692.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12468].end |
34694.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12468].text |
就是 |
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34694.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12469].end |
34696.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12469].text |
就是 |
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34696.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12470].end |
34698.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12470].text |
就是 |
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34698.7 |
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34700.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12471].text |
就是 |
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34700.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12472].end |
34702.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12472].text |
就是 |
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34702.7 |
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34704.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12473].text |
就是 |
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34678.04 |
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34680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12474].text |
就是 |
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34680.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12475].end |
34682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12475].text |
就是 |
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34682.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12476].end |
34684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12476].text |
就是 |
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34684.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12477].end |
34686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12477].text |
就是 |
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34686.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12478].end |
34688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12478].text |
就是 |
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34688.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12479].end |
34690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12479].text |
就是 |
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34690.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12480].end |
34692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12480].text |
就是 |
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34692.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12481].end |
34694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12481].text |
就是 |
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34694.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12482].end |
34696.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12482].text |
就是 |
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34696.04 |
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34698.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12483].text |
就是 |
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34698.04 |
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34700.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12484].text |
就是 |
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34700.04 |
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34702.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12485].text |
就是 |
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34702.04 |
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34704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12486].text |
就是 |
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34704.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12487].end |
34706.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[12487].text |
就是 |
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34680.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12488].end |
34682.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12488].text |
就是 |
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34682.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12489].end |
34684.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12489].text |
就是 |
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34684.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12490].end |
34686.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12490].text |
就是 |
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34686.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12491].end |
34688.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12491].text |
就是 |
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34688.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12492].end |
34690.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12492].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12493].start |
34690.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12493].end |
34692.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12493].text |
只不過是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12494].start |
34692.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12494].end |
34694.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12494].text |
就是 |
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34694.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12495].end |
34696.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12495].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12496].start |
34696.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12496].end |
34698.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12496].text |
就是 |
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34698.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12497].end |
34700.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12497].text |
就是 |
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34700.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12498].end |
34702.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12498].text |
就是 |
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34702.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12499].end |
34704.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12499].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12500].start |
34704.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12500].end |
34706.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12500].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12501].start |
34706.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12501].end |
34708.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[12501].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12502].start |
34700.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12502].end |
34701.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12502].text |
活動的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[12503].start |
34705.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12503].end |
34707.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[12503].text |
再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12504].start |
34707.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12504].end |
34709.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12504].text |
委員提到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12505].start |
34709.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12505].end |
34712.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12505].text |
檢體自轉繁體的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12506].start |
34712.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12506].end |
34716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12506].text |
因為現在的業界還是期待說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12507].start |
34716.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12507].end |
34720.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12507].text |
這個部分能夠希望以自律來取代管制的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12508].start |
34720.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12508].end |
34725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12508].text |
那我們也針對這個部分也進行相關的研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12509].start |
34725.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12509].end |
34727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12509].text |
也希望能夠朝向就是 |
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34727.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12510].end |
34733.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12510].text |
是不是有像比照遊戲軟體分級管理這種辦法來增列法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[12511].start |
34733.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12511].end |
34737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12511].text |
然後協助民間團體來成立第三公正單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[12512].start |
34737.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12512].end |
34739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12512].text |
強化他的一個強制力 |
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34739.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12513].end |
34743.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12513].text |
不過因為業者還是希望政府來低度管理的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12514].start |
34743.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12514].end |
34746.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12514].text |
這個部分我們希望就是委員也給我們一些時間 |
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34746.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12515].end |
34749.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12515].text |
能夠跟業者做一些充分的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[12516].start |
34750.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12516].end |
34753.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[12516].text |
那再來有關於就是圖書折扣秩序研議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12517].start |
34754.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12517].end |
34758.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12517].text |
目前已經規劃圖書折扣秩序立法議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[12518].start |
34758.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12518].end |
34761.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12518].text |
會納入在115年的全國文化會議來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[12519].start |
34761.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12519].end |
34765.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12519].text |
那近期我們也會開始來辦理全國的公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12520].start |
34768.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12520].end |
34770.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12520].text |
再來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12521].start |
34773.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12521].end |
34774.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12521].text |
針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[12522].start |
34778.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[12522].end |
34780.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[12522].text |
權益版增加的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12523].start |
34780.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[12523].end |
34782.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[12523].text |
因為目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[12524].start |
34783.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12524].end |
34786.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12524].text |
原來的BFP我們1.0其實權益本只有7本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12525].start |
34786.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12525].end |
34789.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12525].text |
那目前在2.0的部分已經增加到130本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12526].start |
34789.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12526].end |
34792.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12526].text |
那由於翻譯需要一定的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[12527].start |
34792.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12527].end |
34796.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12527].text |
我們在權益本純文字的部分就是文學非文學部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12528].start |
34796.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12528].end |
34800.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12528].text |
我們已經有48位的議者在進行翻譯 |
| transcript.whisperx[12529].start |
34800.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12529].end |
34803.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12529].text |
那包會本跟漫畫部分也需要43位 |
| transcript.whisperx[12530].start |
34803.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12530].end |
34805.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12530].text |
其實這樣的翻譯能量來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[12531].start |
34805.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12531].end |
34809.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12531].text |
我們目前來要增加其實是比較困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[12532].start |
34809.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12532].end |
34811.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12532].text |
那未來我們希望有空間的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12533].start |
34811.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12533].end |
34813.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12533].text |
我們會進行加強跟調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[12534].start |
34817.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12534].end |
34819.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[12534].text |
再來針對中央社的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12535].start |
34820.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[12535].end |
34822.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[12535].text |
中央社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12536].start |
34829.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12536].end |
34831.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12536].text |
向委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12537].start |
34831.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12537].end |
34833.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12537].text |
我們特別做了這個準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[12538].start |
34833.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12538].end |
34835.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12538].text |
有關委員提出的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[12539].start |
34835.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12539].end |
34837.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12539].text |
我們特別提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12540].start |
34837.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12540].end |
34841.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12540].text |
我們中央社真的很自立自強 |
| transcript.whisperx[12541].start |
34841.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12541].end |
34843.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12541].text |
在政府的三個公廣集團當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[12542].start |
34843.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12542].end |
34847.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12542].text |
我們的這個獲得的補助現在是不到50% |
| transcript.whisperx[12543].start |
34847.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12543].end |
34851.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12543].text |
只有47.8%以去年來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[12544].start |
34851.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12544].end |
34854.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12544].text |
那相對於公視還有60%幾 |
| transcript.whisperx[12545].start |
34854.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12545].end |
34856.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12545].text |
央廣超過80% |
| transcript.whisperx[12546].start |
34856.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12546].end |
34858.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12546].text |
所以相對之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12547].start |
34858.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12547].end |
34860.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12547].text |
我們的自籌比例也是非常高 |
| transcript.whisperx[12548].start |
34860.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12548].end |
34862.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12548].text |
一年比一年高 |
| transcript.whisperx[12549].start |
34862.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12549].end |
34864.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12549].text |
也就是我們很自立自強 |
| transcript.whisperx[12550].start |
34864.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12550].end |
34866.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12550].text |
很努力的去做獨立經營 |
| transcript.whisperx[12551].start |
34866.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12551].end |
34868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12551].text |
那其實中央社在政府的立定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12552].start |
34868.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12552].end |
34872.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12552].text |
我們的社會目標是在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[12553].start |
34872.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12553].end |
34876.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12553].text |
也就是說服務國內外的媒體提供新聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[12554].start |
34876.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12554].end |
34879.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12554].text |
尤其是對國際能夠發送 |
| transcript.whisperx[12555].start |
34879.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12555].end |
34881.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12555].text |
讓國際間能夠認識台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12556].start |
34881.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12556].end |
34884.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12556].text |
而且跟國際的通訊社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12557].start |
34884.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12557].end |
34888.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12557].text |
跟國際媒體能夠讓他們更進一步的了解台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12558].start |
34888.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12558].end |
34890.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12558].text |
所以在這個之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12559].start |
34890.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12559].end |
34893.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12559].text |
我們應該盡我們所有力氣去做新聞發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[12560].start |
34893.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12560].end |
34896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12560].text |
但是大家提供委員也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12561].start |
34896.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12561].end |
34898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12561].text |
最近這四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[12562].start |
34898.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12562].end |
34900.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12562].text |
國際間的通貨膨脹 |
| transcript.whisperx[12563].start |
34900.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12563].end |
34904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12563].text |
平均幾個城市都在15%到20%之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12564].start |
34904.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12564].end |
34906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12564].text |
通貨膨脹非常的快 |
| transcript.whisperx[12565].start |
34906.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12565].end |
34908.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12565].text |
但是近25年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12566].start |
34908.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12566].end |
34912.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12566].text |
我們中央社獲得政府補助都在3億上下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12567].start |
34912.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12567].end |
34916.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12567].text |
就是在3億、3億、2億9這樣飄 |
| transcript.whisperx[12568].start |
34916.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12568].end |
34918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12568].text |
所以等於都沒有成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12569].start |
34918.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12569].end |
34922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12569].text |
但國際間通膨4年就漲了將近15%到20%之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[12570].start |
34922.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12570].end |
34924.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12570].text |
所以其實真的很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[12571].start |
34924.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12571].end |
34926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12571].text |
因為物價會波動 |
| transcript.whisperx[12572].start |
34926.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12572].end |
34928.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12572].text |
所以不是說我們不努力啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[12573].start |
34928.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12573].end |
34930.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12573].text |
那其實我們也提出一個數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[12574].start |
34930.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12574].end |
34932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12574].text |
既然要做一個國家通訊社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12575].start |
34932.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12575].end |
34933.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12575].text |
在海外的駐點 |
| transcript.whisperx[12576].start |
34933.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12576].end |
34936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12576].text |
我也希望委員們能支持我們海外駐點放大 |
| transcript.whisperx[12577].start |
34936.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12577].end |
34938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12577].text |
因為我們已經列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12578].start |
34938.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12578].end |
34940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12578].text |
就國際間的這些通訊社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12579].start |
34940.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12579].end |
34943.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12579].text |
你看這個美聯社住在國94國 |
| transcript.whisperx[12580].start |
34943.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12580].end |
34945.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12580].text |
海外駐點235個 |
| transcript.whisperx[12581].start |
34945.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12581].end |
34947.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12581].text |
即使新華社有145個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[12582].start |
34947.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12582].end |
34949.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12582].text |
184個駐點 |
| transcript.whisperx[12583].start |
34949.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12583].end |
34951.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12583].text |
中央社現在是30個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[12584].start |
34951.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12584].end |
34952.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12584].text |
36個駐點 |
| transcript.whisperx[12585].start |
34952.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12585].end |
34955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12585].text |
39位人力在海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[12586].start |
34955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12586].end |
34956.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12586].text |
這是很精實 |
| transcript.whisperx[12587].start |
34956.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12587].end |
34958.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12587].text |
也就是說如果我們要真的做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12588].start |
34958.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12588].end |
34961.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12588].text |
新聞、國際傳播的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[12589].start |
34961.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12589].end |
34963.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12589].text |
還需要其實海外能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[12590].start |
34963.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12590].end |
34965.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12590].text |
增加他們的這個配備啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[12591].start |
34965.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12591].end |
34967.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12591].text |
或實力給予比較大的支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[12592].start |
34967.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12592].end |
34969.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12592].text |
而我們同仁也很努力喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12593].start |
34969.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12593].end |
34971.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12593].text |
我們說這個過去這一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[12594].start |
34971.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12594].end |
34974.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12594].text |
我們的國際新聞也常常獲得肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[12595].start |
34974.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12595].end |
34976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12595].text |
不管是國際的專訪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[12596].start |
34976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12596].end |
34978.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12596].text |
海外的獨家專訪等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[12597].start |
34978.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12597].end |
34980.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12597].text |
甚至於我們的影音新聞上去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12598].start |
34980.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12598].end |
34982.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12598].text |
已經到了亞洲電視獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12599].start |
34982.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12599].end |
34984.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12599].text |
還有這個亞洲影音創意大獎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12600].start |
34984.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12600].end |
34986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12600].text |
都有入圍的作品喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12601].start |
34986.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12601].end |
34988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12601].text |
也就是說已經都獲得國際水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[12602].start |
34988.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12602].end |
34990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12602].text |
也到了一個受肯定程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[12603].start |
34990.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12603].end |
34992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12603].text |
這些還是誠摯的希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[12604].start |
34992.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12604].end |
34993.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12604].text |
委員能夠幫忙喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12605].start |
34993.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12605].end |
34996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12605].text |
就是盡量鼓勵我們好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12606].start |
34996.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12606].end |
34997.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[12606].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[12607].start |
35002.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12607].end |
35003.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12607].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12608].start |
35003.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12608].end |
35004.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12608].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12609].start |
35004.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12609].end |
35007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12609].text |
這邊國漫館來補充一下喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12610].start |
35007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12610].end |
35009.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12610].text |
有關剛才那個委員有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[12611].start |
35009.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12611].end |
35013.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12611].text |
關於目前國漫館的展覽的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12612].start |
35013.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12612].end |
35014.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12612].text |
那去年的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12613].start |
35014.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12613].end |
35017.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12613].text |
其實我們也很積極地辦了九檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12614].start |
35017.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12614].end |
35019.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12614].text |
跟台灣漫畫相關的展覽 |
| transcript.whisperx[12615].start |
35019.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12615].end |
35022.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12615].text |
而且還有一檔是跟日本合作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12616].start |
35022.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12616].end |
35023.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12616].text |
國際交流展覽 |
| transcript.whisperx[12617].start |
35023.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12617].end |
35024.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12617].text |
那今年的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12618].start |
35024.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12618].end |
35027.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12618].text |
其實我們也是回應到時事啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[12619].start |
35027.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12619].end |
35030.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12619].text |
就是也辦理了一個棒球的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12620].start |
35030.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12620].end |
35031.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12620].text |
一個漫畫的特展 |
| transcript.whisperx[12621].start |
35031.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12621].end |
35035.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12621].text |
那還有一個星期漫畫的一個特展喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12622].start |
35035.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12622].end |
35038.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12622].text |
那後續也一直在積極地在規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[12623].start |
35038.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12623].end |
35044.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12623].text |
所有跟現在相關的這個展覽的一個內容喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12624].start |
35044.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12624].end |
35047.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12624].text |
那目前也在規劃跟民俗有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[12625].start |
35047.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12625].end |
35049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12625].text |
跟女性議題有關的一些展覽 |
| transcript.whisperx[12626].start |
35049.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12626].end |
35051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12626].text |
也都在籌備當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[12627].start |
35051.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12627].end |
35053.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12627].text |
那有關於典藏的部分喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12628].start |
35053.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12628].end |
35057.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12628].text |
就是目前我們從籌備一開始到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[12629].start |
35057.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12629].end |
35059.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12629].text |
已經有五千多件的藏品喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12630].start |
35059.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12630].end |
35061.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12630].text |
那準藏品也有六千多件 |
| transcript.whisperx[12631].start |
35061.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12631].end |
35065.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12631].text |
那可是因為我們之前的這個典藏政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[12632].start |
35065.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12632].end |
35067.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12632].text |
可能重新再做檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[12633].start |
35067.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12633].end |
35070.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12633].text |
所以我們現在也在六月的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12634].start |
35070.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12634].end |
35071.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12634].text |
我們已經完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12635].start |
35071.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12635].end |
35075.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12635].text |
整個我們從國漫館籌備處的文物收藏的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[12636].start |
35075.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12636].end |
35079.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12636].text |
還有收藏審議會的一個設置要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[12637].start |
35079.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12637].end |
35081.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12637].text |
跟受證的作業要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[12638].start |
35081.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12638].end |
35085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12638].text |
那同時我們也針對這個國家漫畫博物館 |
| transcript.whisperx[12639].start |
35085.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12639].end |
35088.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12639].text |
籌備處的一些圖書資料的收藏政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[12640].start |
35088.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12640].end |
35092.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12640].text |
也都已經研擬完成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[12641].start |
35092.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12641].end |
35096.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12641].text |
所以後續我們會繼續把這一些法制完備之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12642].start |
35096.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12642].end |
35098.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12642].text |
就可以來做典藏的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[12643].start |
35098.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12643].end |
35100.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12643].text |
那典藏的空間的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12644].start |
35100.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12644].end |
35106.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12644].text |
目前我們也有跟國美館來借用典藏庫房來做保存喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12645].start |
35106.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12645].end |
35110.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12645].text |
那因為國美館的庫房其實是符合這個國際標準的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12646].start |
35110.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12646].end |
35113.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12646].text |
那另外的就是我們準藏品的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12647].start |
35113.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12647].end |
35114.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12647].text |
空間的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[12648].start |
35114.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12648].end |
35119.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12648].text |
那另外的部分我們也跟這個台南的台石博來借用空間來做暫存 |
| transcript.whisperx[12649].start |
35119.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12649].end |
35121.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[12649].text |
那以上補充報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12650].start |
35124.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12650].end |
35128.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12650].text |
所以針對這個外藝本要提升全藝本的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[12651].start |
35128.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12651].end |
35130.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12651].text |
很困難沒有辦法提高 |
| transcript.whisperx[12652].start |
35130.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12652].end |
35132.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12652].text |
能不能請部長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[12653].start |
35132.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12653].end |
35136.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[12653].text |
因為我不是聽得很懂剛剛這個無法無法努力的理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[12654].start |
35141.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12654].end |
35144.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12654].text |
剛剛有提到外藝本的問題就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12655].start |
35144.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12655].end |
35148.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12655].text |
外藝的人才沒有那麼快可以培養出這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[12656].start |
35148.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12656].end |
35150.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12656].text |
外藝的速度比較慢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12657].start |
35150.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12657].end |
35153.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12657].text |
那我們其實有委託文學館 |
| transcript.whisperx[12658].start |
35153.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12658].end |
35156.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12658].text |
一直在開這種外藝的工作法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12659].start |
35156.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12659].end |
35161.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12659].text |
包括外籍人士我們也鼓勵他來台灣受訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[12660].start |
35161.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12660].end |
35165.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12660].text |
本國我們也盡量訓練這些外藝的人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[12661].start |
35165.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12661].end |
35168.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12661].text |
所以這個部分我們想加快腳步做 |
| transcript.whisperx[12662].start |
35168.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12662].end |
35171.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[12662].text |
因為由楊雙子得獎就看出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12663].start |
35173.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12663].end |
35175.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12663].text |
外藝是非常非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12664].start |
35175.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12664].end |
35176.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[12664].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12665].start |
35176.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12665].end |
35178.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12665].text |
這個要加快腳步來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[12666].start |
35178.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12666].end |
35180.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12666].text |
是很困難也需要人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[12667].start |
35180.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12667].end |
35182.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12667].text |
所以才需要你們來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[12668].start |
35182.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12668].end |
35183.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12668].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12669].start |
35188.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12669].end |
35189.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12669].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[12670].start |
35189.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12670].end |
35192.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12670].text |
以下這個問題我想要直接請部長回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[12671].start |
35192.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12671].end |
35194.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12671].text |
部長我想說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12672].start |
35194.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12672].end |
35196.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12672].text |
我們現在遇到的困境是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12673].start |
35196.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12673].end |
35199.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12673].text |
當我手上拿著一本簡體字的同書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12674].start |
35199.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12674].end |
35203.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12674].text |
如果我把它上架到實體書店或電子書的書店 |
| transcript.whisperx[12675].start |
35203.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12675].end |
35206.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12675].text |
那家長跟老師就會知道我買的是簡體字的同書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12676].start |
35206.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12676].end |
35208.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12676].text |
所以它沒有經過任何台灣出版社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12677].start |
35208.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12677].end |
35211.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12677].text |
它只有透過進口商 |
| transcript.whisperx[12678].start |
35211.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12678].end |
35213.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12678].text |
所以上架之後家長在買的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12679].start |
35213.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12679].end |
35216.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12679].text |
他會知道我買的是一個內容沒有被確認過 |
| transcript.whisperx[12680].start |
35216.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12680].end |
35219.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12680].text |
所以如果這裡面有任何統戰的認知作戰的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[12681].start |
35219.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12681].end |
35221.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12681].text |
家長跟老師會知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[12682].start |
35221.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12682].end |
35223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12682].text |
好吧我衰因為我買到簡體字的書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12683].start |
35223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12683].end |
35225.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12683].text |
可是現在部長現在狀況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12684].start |
35225.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12684].end |
35229.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12684].text |
本來這本簡體書要進到台灣的繁體書的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12685].start |
35229.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12685].end |
35231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12685].text |
一它必須要申請ISBM |
| transcript.whisperx[12686].start |
35231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12686].end |
35233.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12686].text |
必須要把內容送交給文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12687].start |
35233.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12687].end |
35235.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12687].text |
然後文化部你們看了內容之後覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[12688].start |
35235.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12688].end |
35237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12688].text |
something wrong有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[12689].start |
35237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12689].end |
35239.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12689].text |
然後你們可能就予以駁回 |
| transcript.whisperx[12690].start |
35239.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12690].end |
35242.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12690].text |
可是現在不到20%的出版社 |
| transcript.whisperx[12691].start |
35242.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12691].end |
35244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12691].text |
真的有把書送進來審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[12692].start |
35244.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12692].end |
35246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12692].text |
沒關係台灣認為自己是一個言論自由的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[12693].start |
35246.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12693].end |
35250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12693].text |
所以當這樣的書他沒有送ISBM給你們審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[12694].start |
35250.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12694].end |
35252.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12694].text |
他就把簡體書轉印成繁體書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12695].start |
35252.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12695].end |
35254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12695].text |
送到成品、送到博客來 |
| transcript.whisperx[12696].start |
35254.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12696].end |
35256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12696].text |
送到所有的平台上的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12697].start |
35256.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12697].end |
35258.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12697].text |
他甚至可能被採購進圖書館 |
| transcript.whisperx[12698].start |
35258.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12698].end |
35261.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12698].text |
然後你們文化部跟我說無法可管 |
| transcript.whisperx[12699].start |
35261.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12699].end |
35262.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12699].text |
你們當發現的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12700].start |
35262.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12700].end |
35265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12700].text |
你們只能一違反兩岸人民條例讓他下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[12701].start |
35265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12701].end |
35268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12701].text |
而且那還是當人民有檢舉的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12702].start |
35268.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12702].end |
35271.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12702].text |
那現在電子書的平台更可怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[12703].start |
35271.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12703].end |
35272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12703].text |
部長我跟你報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12704].start |
35272.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12704].end |
35274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12704].text |
remu也好cobo也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12705].start |
35274.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12705].end |
35276.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12705].text |
現在所有電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12706].start |
35276.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12706].end |
35279.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12706].text |
簡體字的童書、簡體字的小說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12707].start |
35279.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12707].end |
35281.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12707].text |
裡面藏著任何認知作戰的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[12708].start |
35281.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12708].end |
35284.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12708].text |
他完全不需要送你們文化部審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[12709].start |
35284.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12709].end |
35287.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12709].text |
直接電子書零成本上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[12710].start |
35287.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12710].end |
35290.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12710].text |
現在的簡體字轉繁體字的技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[12711].start |
35290.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12711].end |
35292.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12711].text |
30秒就可以完成一本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12712].start |
35292.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12712].end |
35293.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12712].text |
然後直接上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[12713].start |
35293.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12713].end |
35295.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12713].text |
有多少家長跟老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[12714].start |
35295.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12714].end |
35298.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12714].text |
在完全不知道他是中國的書的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[12715].start |
35298.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12715].end |
35299.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12715].text |
他買了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12716].start |
35299.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12716].end |
35301.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12716].text |
他下載付費的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12717].start |
35301.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12717].end |
35304.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12717].text |
他發現他是一本這樣的電子書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12718].start |
35304.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12718].end |
35305.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12718].text |
所以部長我一直在告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[12719].start |
35305.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12719].end |
35307.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12719].text |
文化部已經講超過一年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12720].start |
35307.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12720].end |
35309.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12720].text |
但是文化部就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12721].start |
35309.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12721].end |
35310.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12721].text |
好啦你們找業者談了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12722].start |
35310.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12722].end |
35312.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[12722].text |
業者說他們會自律 |
| transcript.whisperx[12723].start |
35313.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[12723].end |
35316.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[12723].text |
然後所以文化部可以不用有角色嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12724].start |
35316.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[12724].end |
35317.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[12724].text |
可是我要提醒部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12725].start |
35317.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[12725].end |
35319.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[12725].text |
為什麼我這麼著急這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12726].start |
35320.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12726].end |
35323.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12726].text |
當所有部會、所有民間團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[12727].start |
35323.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12727].end |
35325.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12727].text |
大家努力在防止認知作戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[12728].start |
35325.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12728].end |
35327.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12728].text |
滲透的這些事情的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12729].start |
35327.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12729].end |
35329.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[12729].text |
文化部竟然置身事外 |
| transcript.whisperx[12730].start |
35330.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[12730].end |
35332.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[12730].text |
而且就從同書開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[12731].start |
35333.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12731].end |
35335.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12731].text |
那當我們教育部還在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[12732].start |
35335.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12732].end |
35336.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12732].text |
試讀中國的教材的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12733].start |
35336.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12733].end |
35338.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12733].text |
我們部長還因此被貼上 |
| transcript.whisperx[12734].start |
35338.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12734].end |
35339.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12734].text |
玩列台獨分子 |
| transcript.whisperx[12735].start |
35339.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12735].end |
35341.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12735].text |
那請問文化部跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[12736].start |
35341.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12736].end |
35343.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12736].text |
難道不用一起攜手努力嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12737].start |
35343.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12737].end |
35344.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12737].text |
試讀中國這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12738].start |
35344.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12738].end |
35346.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12738].text |
已經不是只有台灣要做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12739].start |
35346.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12739].end |
35349.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12739].text |
全世界國家現在都在面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[12740].start |
35349.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12740].end |
35351.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12740].text |
當中國用各式各樣的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[12741].start |
35351.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12741].end |
35353.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12741].text |
在做滲透認知作戰的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12742].start |
35353.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12742].end |
35355.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12742].text |
沒有一個部會可以置身事外 |
| transcript.whisperx[12743].start |
35355.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12743].end |
35356.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12743].text |
而從同書這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12744].start |
35356.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12744].end |
35358.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12744].text |
文化部到現在依然認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[12745].start |
35358.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12745].end |
35361.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12745].text |
自己不需要任何法制的角色跟規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[12746].start |
35361.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12746].end |
35362.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12746].text |
我們現在就先讓業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[12747].start |
35362.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12747].end |
35364.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12747].text |
做自律平台就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12748].start |
35364.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12748].end |
35366.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12748].text |
而這個自律平台是怎麼產生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12749].start |
35366.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12749].end |
35367.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12749].text |
部長我再跟你報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12750].start |
35367.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12750].end |
35368.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12750].text |
三次的座談會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12751].start |
35368.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12751].end |
35371.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12751].text |
都是因為也有業者跑來告訴我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[12752].start |
35371.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12752].end |
35373.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12752].text |
培育我們很希望跟文化部對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[12753].start |
35373.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12753].end |
35375.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12753].text |
但是文化部決定撒手一管 |
| transcript.whisperx[12754].start |
35375.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12754].end |
35376.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12754].text |
他們就說好吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[12755].start |
35376.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12755].end |
35378.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12755].text |
那我們自己先來自律我們自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[12756].start |
35378.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12756].end |
35379.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12756].text |
部長你聽懂了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12757].start |
35379.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12757].end |
35380.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12757].text |
這個邏輯是這樣來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12758].start |
35380.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12758].end |
35382.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12758].text |
而不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[12759].start |
35382.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12759].end |
35384.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12759].text |
我非常的激動部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12760].start |
35384.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12760].end |
35385.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12760].text |
我要告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[12761].start |
35385.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12761].end |
35389.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12761].text |
是7月1號中國通過那個荒謬的法規之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[12762].start |
35389.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12762].end |
35392.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12762].text |
請問我們真的還要繼續置身事外嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12763].start |
35392.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12763].end |
35395.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12763].text |
當所有的家長跟老師在努力防堵這樣的書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12764].start |
35395.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12764].end |
35397.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12764].text |
進入孩子們的日常生活的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12765].start |
35397.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12765].end |
35399.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12765].text |
文化部沒有任何法制規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[12766].start |
35399.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12766].end |
35400.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12766].text |
沒有任何態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[12767].start |
35400.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12767].end |
35402.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12767].text |
我沒有辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[12768].start |
35402.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12768].end |
35404.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12768].text |
今天所有的文化部的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[12769].start |
35404.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12769].end |
35407.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12769].text |
我都希望全力的支持並且捍衛到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[12770].start |
35407.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12770].end |
35408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12770].text |
但這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12771].start |
35408.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12771].end |
35411.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12771].text |
我要拜託部長我親自跟您報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12772].start |
35411.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12772].end |
35412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12772].text |
它就是這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[12773].start |
35412.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12773].end |
35413.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12773].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12774].start |
35413.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12774].end |
35415.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[12774].text |
我先請問一下培育委員你是第幾案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12775].start |
35420.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12775].end |
35422.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12775].text |
沒有很多案但是最激動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[12776].start |
35422.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12776].end |
35423.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12776].text |
沒事沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[12777].start |
35423.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12777].end |
35424.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12777].text |
是141 |
| transcript.whisperx[12778].start |
35424.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12778].end |
35426.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12778].text |
141喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[12779].start |
35426.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12779].end |
35428.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12779].text |
好那我真的覺得你很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[12780].start |
35428.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12780].end |
35430.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12780].text |
我也覺得這應該要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[12781].start |
35430.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12781].end |
35434.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[12781].text |
你要不要就直接凍結讓他事後給你報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12782].start |
35434.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12782].end |
35436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12782].text |
我先說我 |
| transcript.whisperx[12783].start |
35436.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12783].end |
35438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12783].text |
我覺得如果部長清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[12784].start |
35438.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12784].end |
35440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12784].text |
為什麼我這麼在意這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[12785].start |
35440.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12785].end |
35443.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12785].text |
而且部長我認為你可以要求你的幕僚 |
| transcript.whisperx[12786].start |
35443.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12786].end |
35444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12786].text |
回去跟你報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[12787].start |
35444.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12787].end |
35445.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12787].text |
到底我們辦公室開了幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[12788].start |
35445.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12788].end |
35448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12788].text |
我今天所有提案我都可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12789].start |
35448.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12789].end |
35450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12789].text |
但是我要拜託部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12790].start |
35450.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12790].end |
35452.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12790].text |
這件事情就是這麼嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[12791].start |
35452.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12791].end |
35454.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12791].text |
當我們努力向世界發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[12792].start |
35454.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12792].end |
35456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12792].text |
當我們今天還在炒煤炫費的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12793].start |
35456.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12793].end |
35459.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12793].text |
文化部真的不要在這件事情上再次置身事外 |
| transcript.whisperx[12794].start |
35459.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12794].end |
35460.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12794].text |
尤其是電子書上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[12795].start |
35460.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12795].end |
35462.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12795].text |
它是零成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12796].start |
35462.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12796].end |
35464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12796].text |
而且世界的人自己都在告訴自己零成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[12797].start |
35464.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12797].end |
35466.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12797].text |
而當有人要賺這個方便財的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[12798].start |
35466.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12798].end |
35469.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12798].text |
甚至如果有人他是要刻意配合中國 |
| transcript.whisperx[12799].start |
35469.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12799].end |
35470.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12799].text |
部長你還記得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12800].start |
35470.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12800].end |
35473.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12800].text |
2020年有一本書叫等爸爸回家 |
| transcript.whisperx[12801].start |
35473.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12801].end |
35475.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12801].text |
他就上架全台灣各大書店 |
| transcript.whisperx[12802].start |
35475.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12802].end |
35479.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12802].text |
它裡面是多麼讚頌武漢歌頌武漢 |
| transcript.whisperx[12803].start |
35479.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12803].end |
35481.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12803].text |
而2020為什麼要出這本書 |
| transcript.whisperx[12804].start |
35481.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12804].end |
35482.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12804].text |
大家還記得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[12805].start |
35482.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12805].end |
35485.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12805].text |
因為2019出現了COVID-19 |
| transcript.whisperx[12806].start |
35485.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12806].end |
35487.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12806].text |
所以中國努力在做大外宣 |
| transcript.whisperx[12807].start |
35487.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12807].end |
35488.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12807].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12808].start |
35488.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12808].end |
35489.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12808].text |
那本書當然現在已經查證 |
| transcript.whisperx[12809].start |
35489.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12809].end |
35490.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12809].text |
我有感受到你的憤怒 |
| transcript.whisperx[12810].start |
35490.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12810].end |
35491.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12810].text |
但是這個沒有停 |
| transcript.whisperx[12811].start |
35491.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12811].end |
35493.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12811].text |
我也覺得是不是就請部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[12812].start |
35493.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12812].end |
35494.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12812].text |
我們加速推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[12813].start |
35494.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12813].end |
35496.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12813].text |
但是你要面對委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12814].start |
35496.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12814].end |
35499.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12814].text |
你是不是就面對委員的提案正面回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[12815].start |
35499.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12815].end |
35500.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12815].text |
如果不行的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[12816].start |
35500.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12816].end |
35502.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12816].text |
委員是不是就趕快決定要不要凍結 |
| transcript.whisperx[12817].start |
35502.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12817].end |
35504.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12817].text |
沒有我都說了我可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12818].start |
35504.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12818].end |
35505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12818].text |
沒關係你尊重你 |
| transcript.whisperx[12819].start |
35505.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12819].end |
35506.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12819].text |
那你的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[12820].start |
35506.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12820].end |
35507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12820].text |
對我改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12821].start |
35507.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12821].end |
35508.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12821].text |
我全部都可以改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12822].start |
35508.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12822].end |
35510.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12822].text |
所以你現在他要改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12823].start |
35510.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12823].end |
35511.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12823].text |
幫他直接登記 |
| transcript.whisperx[12824].start |
35511.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12824].end |
35512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12824].text |
那他要改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12825].start |
35512.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12825].end |
35514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12825].text |
你要回應他讓他滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[12826].start |
35514.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12826].end |
35515.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12826].text |
還是覺得他已經改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[12827].start |
35515.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12827].end |
35516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12827].text |
不用回應他這麼滿意 |
| transcript.whisperx[12828].start |
35516.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12828].end |
35518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12828].text |
那你決定好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12829].start |
35518.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12829].end |
35519.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12829].text |
那我們加速推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[12830].start |
35519.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12830].end |
35520.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[12830].text |
拜託拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[12831].start |
35522.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[12831].end |
35523.39 |
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一定要回應啊 |
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你要回應委員的需求啊 |
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這一點我其實我個人 |
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也有感覺到譬如說 |
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剛剛講到監體制的同輸 |
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還有透過那個網路那個平台 |
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大量的中國同輸過到台灣來 |
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這個事情我其實滿清楚 |
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而且我們不斷的在尋找 |
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過去的一些法令可能真的 |
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沒有辦法去阻止這一些 |
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我其實自己滿清楚 |
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中國整個統戰的那個過程是 |
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非常快速的 |
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那我想我們要比照 |
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目前其他部門能夠找到的法令 |
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包括除了兩岸人民條例之外 |
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