| IVOD_ID |
17517 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/17517 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-11T08:33:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-11T16:14:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
07:40:07 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/3832c314c43c373dd4144b3221bdf2eecf617752290a1f476dbd1a1f1ae50216a0f05c533d9661f35ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查
(一) 委員柯志恩等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員柯志恩等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員吳沛憶等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查
(一) 委員王鴻薇等24人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員許宇甄等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 國民黨黨團擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員翁曉玲等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員羅明才等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員葛如鈞等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 委員羅智強等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 委員賴士葆等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十) 委員林倩綺等23人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十一) 委員葉元之等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十二) 委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等21人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十四) 委員吳沛憶等21人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十五) 委員張雅琳等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十六) 委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十七) 委員吳思瑤等16人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
三、繼續審查
(一) 委員柯志恩等16人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員徐欣瑩等19人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案
四、審查
(一) 委員王鴻薇等25人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員葉元之等18人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員邱鎮軍等17人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員許宇甄等19人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員陳菁徽等16人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
……(因系統字數上限，詳參議事日程)） |
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SPEAKER_07 |
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陳委員培瑜 |
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27501.51221875 |
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27533.20346875 |
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0.97 |
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1651.37 |
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1651.87 |
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謝謝 |
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1660.06 |
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1660.82 |
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報告委員會 |
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1660.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
1663.26 |
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現在出席委員已足法定能數 |
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1663.26 |
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1663.82 |
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現在開會 |
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1664.53 |
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1665.87 |
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首先進行報告事項 |
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1665.87 |
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1667.67 |
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請醫事人員宣讀上次意識誤 |
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1668.84 |
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1673.84 |
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立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會意識度 |
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1673.84 |
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1679.34 |
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時間中華民國15年6月10日下午20 30分至50 30分 |
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1679.92 |
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1682.08 |
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地點本年清晨101會意識 |
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1682.08 |
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1684.32 |
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出席委員蔡村酬委員等13人 |
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1684.32 |
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1686.12 |
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內籍委員林茜吉委員等3人 |
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1687.15 |
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1691.75 |
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內籍人員運動部部長李洋率同有關人員主席羅昭基委員廷偉 |
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1691.75 |
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1692.55 |
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報告事項 |
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1693.32 |
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1695.62 |
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宣讀上次會意識入決定 |
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1695.62 |
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1696.52 |
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意識入決定 |
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1696.52 |
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1697.32 |
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討論事項 |
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1697.81 |
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1700.11 |
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繼續審查委員羅廷偉等21人 |
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1700.11 |
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1703.91 |
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擬具電子競技運動發展基本法草案等兩案 |
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1703.91 |
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1707.61 |
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本日會議有委員林怡錦等12人提出質詢 |
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1708.32 |
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1711.52 |
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京京運動部部長李洋及相關人員及其答復說明 |
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1711.52 |
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1714.42 |
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另有委員柯志仁林茜吉提出書面質詢 |
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1714.42 |
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1716.52 |
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決議1報告及尋討完畢 |
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1716.52 |
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1719.62 |
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2為對於委員質詢要求提供相關資料 |
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1719.62 |
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1722.92 |
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或會及答復部問請相關機關進述與書面答復 |
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1722.92 |
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1726.82 |
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3電子競技運動發展基本法草案相關草案 |
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1726.82 |
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1728.52 |
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另定期繼續審查 |
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1728.52 |
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1729.92 |
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通過臨時提案一項 |
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1729.92 |
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1730.72 |
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宣讀完畢 |
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1733.55 |
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1737.35 |
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請問各位委員上次會議思路有錯誤或遺漏 |
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1739.41 |
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1740.51 |
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好 意識路確定 |
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1741.92 |
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1746.62 |
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本日會議議程是審查委員柯志仁18人等你去 |
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1749.45 |
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1749.95 |
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可以啊 |
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1752.38 |
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1752.88 |
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可以 |
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1762.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1763.78 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
1763.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1765.58 |
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我們今天要先程序發言 |
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1765.58 |
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1768.68 |
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關於召委不不審預算 |
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1768.68 |
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1769.78 |
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值班考察這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
1769.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1771.38 |
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我們要提出嚴正的抗議 |
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1771.38 |
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1772.78 |
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我們手上有個清單 |
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1772.78 |
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1774.38 |
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是關於羅庭偉召委 |
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1774.38 |
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1776.68 |
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他必須負責的部會相關總預算 |
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1776.68 |
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1779.38 |
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到目前為止都沒有進行實質的審查 |
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1779.38 |
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1781.48 |
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那我們看到除了考察之外 |
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1781.48 |
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1783.88 |
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包含今天排的相關法案的議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1783.88 |
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1785.98 |
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其中很多民進黨委員的版本 |
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1785.98 |
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1787.78 |
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都還在複裔期當中 |
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1787.78 |
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1789.88 |
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那也都沒有因此也都沒有被放進來 |
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1789.88 |
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1791.78 |
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我們要表達沉重的抗議 |
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1791.78 |
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1793.28 |
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那我想跟大家報告一下 |
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1793.48 |
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1796.78 |
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目前羅庭偉委員所必須負責的部會預算有哪些呢 |
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1796.78 |
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1797.28 |
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第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
1797.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
1799.48 |
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文化部及所屬單位預算 |
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1799.68 |
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1802.48 |
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還有運動部所屬單位的預算 |
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1802.58 |
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1805.68 |
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當然文化部底下還有表議中心等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
1805.78 |
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1808.38 |
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那最後呢還有國家太空中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
1808.38 |
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1810.48 |
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國家災害防災科技中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
1810.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
1811.68 |
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還有國安會 |
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1813.95 |
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1814.85 |
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等等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
1814.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
1816.95 |
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然後甚至國家運動產業發展中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
1816.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
1818.45 |
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國家運動訓練中心 |
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1818.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
1820.25 |
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還有相關跟運動有關 |
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1820.25 |
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1822.45 |
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也就是文化部運動部和安會 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
1822.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
1824.55 |
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還有故宮這些等等哦 |
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1824.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
1826.75 |
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該是負責羅庭偉委員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
1826.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
1828.85 |
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由他負責都還沒有進行審查 |
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1828.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
1829.85 |
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那我不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
1830.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
1833.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
之前刻意提了言諱說要好好審查預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
1833.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
1834.15 |
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好好處理事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
1834.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
1835.85 |
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但是為什麼到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
1835.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
1838.05 |
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我們看從昨天的電競法 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
1838.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
1839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
相關一整天的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
1839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
1841.25 |
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然後到今天相關的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
1841.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
1842.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
民進黨委員的版本 |
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1842.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
1844.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
也都因為在複一期當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
1844.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
1846.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
沒有辦法被送進來實施審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
1846.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
1847.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
那我要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
1847.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
1850.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
一個負責任專任的召委所必須處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
1850.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
1852.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
當然是公平的對待每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
1852.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
1853.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
1853.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
1856.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
他應該都被照顧在相關的排程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
1856.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
1858.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
此外總預算的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
1858.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
1859.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
現在已經六月中了 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
1860.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
1863.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
距離行政院把總預算送進立法院來 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
1863.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
1864.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
已經快要300天了 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
1864.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
1865.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
而這麼長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
1865.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
1867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
不審總預算到底要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
1867.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
1870.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
所以我們今天雖然沒有辦法主張變更議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
1870.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
1872.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
但是在程序發言上 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
1872.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
1873.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
我們要再次拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
1873.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
1875.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
公開拜託召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
1875.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
1877.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
把您所負責相關部會的總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
1877.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
1879.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
開始進行實施審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
1879.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
1880.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
1883.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
1886.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
回應一下那個培育委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
1886.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
1888.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
可能委員沒有注意到 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
1888.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
1890.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
昨天會議是議事錄已經確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
1891.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
1893.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
我們就是6月11收件 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
1894.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
1896 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
相關大家的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
1896.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
1899.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
所以目前都在進行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
1899.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
1901.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
我們有自己的期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
1901.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
1903.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
也希望委員能夠尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
1903.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
1906.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
那至於不復議同意書 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
1906.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
1907.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
1908.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
1909.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
可能委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
1910.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
1912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
也要麻煩大家有個默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
1912.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
1913.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
因為上次葛如軍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
1914.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
1916.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
簽相關的法案的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
1916.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
1918.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
貴黨也不願意簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
1918.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
1919.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
不復議同意書 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
1920.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
1920.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
所以我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
1921.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
1925.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
那我們持續接下來的會議議程 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
1928.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
1930.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
本會議議程是審查委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
1930.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
1931.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
柯志恩等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
1931.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
1933.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
擬具高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
1933.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
1934.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
第20條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
1935.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
1937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
委員王宏威等24人 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
1937.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
1939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
擬具高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
1939.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
1941.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
第58條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
1942.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
1944.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
委員柯志恩等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
1944.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
1946.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
擬具大學法第35條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
1948.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
1950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
委員柯志恩等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
1950.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
1953.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
擬具專科學校法第44條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
1955.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
1956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
委員范雲等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
1956.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
1958.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
擬具學校公參法 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
1959.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
1960.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
等39案 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
1964.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
1965.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
委員柯志恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
1966.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
1967.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
吳立華 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
1967.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
1967.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
吳佩儀 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
1968.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
1969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
張亞玲 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
1969.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
1970.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
陳培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
1971.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
1971.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
吳思榮 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
1972.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
1973.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
1974.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
1975.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
因吳不復議同意書 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
1976.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
1977.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
故不予審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
1978.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
1980.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
首先介紹在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
1980.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
1981.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
陳培育委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
1983.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
1984.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
陳秀華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
1986.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
1987.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
林茜淇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
1988.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
1989.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
1990.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
1991.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
柯志恩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
1992.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
1993.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
接著介紹與會的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
1994.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
1995.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
教育部常務市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
1995.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
1996.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
朱俊章 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
1999.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
2002.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
財政部附稅署專門委員吳秀琳 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
2004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
2008.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
國防部人事參謀次長室 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
2008.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
2009.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
助理次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
2009.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
2010.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
薛柏楊 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
2013.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
2015.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
衛生福利部及社會救助 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
2015.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
2017.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
及社公司檢認市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
2017.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
2018.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
王彥琴 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
2020.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
2022.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
法務參事王南軍 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
2024.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
2027.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
農業部農糧署副署長黃昭興 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
2029.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
2033.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
環境部化學物質管理署主長林松景 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
2035.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
2038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
行政院足跡總處公務預算處 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
2038.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
2040.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
專門委員王淺凱 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
2045.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
2049.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
其餘列席的機關代表請參閱名單不再逐一介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
2049.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
2050.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
2051.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
2052.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
現在進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
2052.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
2054.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
請問有委員要提案說明嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
2058.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
2060.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
好 有請林謙奇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
2070.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
2073.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
好 謝謝我們主席羅昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
2073.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
2078.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
本席今天提出的這個高級中等教育法第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
2078.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
2081.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
還有專科學校法第44條的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
2081.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
2083.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
那麼主要的目的是在減輕學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
2084.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
2085.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
以及家庭就業的這個負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
2086.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
2088.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
來提升教育投資的可負擔性 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
2088.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
2093.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
讓青年不會因為經濟的因素而背負過重的這個債務 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
2093.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
2097.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那麼現行的制度雖然提供了就學協助學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
2097.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
2098.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
就學貸款來協助學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
2099.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
2100.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
來完成學業 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
2100.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
2103.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
只是貸款的利息還是由學生在負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
2103.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
2107.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
那麼實際上有學生也因為無力償還就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
2107.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
2110.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
而遭到金融機構申請強制執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
2110.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
2112.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
那麼甚至在投入職場後 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
2112.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
2115.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
就面臨薪資遭扣押的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
2115.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
2116.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
那麼相關的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
2116.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
2118.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
親人負債的來源當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
2118.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
2120.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
學貸更是比例很高的一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
2121.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
2123.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
那麼顯示這中間的許多年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
2123.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
2125.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
已經因為這樣子的一個壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
2125.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
2127.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
才產生一些經濟的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
2127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
2128.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
那另外一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
2129.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
2131.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
政府的就學貸款利息補貼支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
2131.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
2135.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
由民國96年的40億億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
2135.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
2138.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
來降至113年的20餘億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
2138.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
2140.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
那麼申請的人數也大幅減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
2140.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
2143.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
那麼整個財政負擔看起來已經比較趨緩 |
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2143.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
2147.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
那麼政府已經有進一步強化支持措施的空間 |
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2147.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
2149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
所以本案在明定學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
2150.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
2153.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
就學貸款利息由教育部來編列預算 |
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2153.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
2157.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
全額補助來降低青年就學跟畢業後的還款壓力 |
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2157.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
2160.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
讓學生能夠更專注在學習與職能的發展 |
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2161.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
2165.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
那這樣也能夠展現國家對教育投資跟青年發展的支持 |
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2165.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
2167.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
那麼以上的說明請各位來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
2168.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
2168.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
2171.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
2172.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
2173.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
2175.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
有請下一位羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
2184.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
2188.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
主席各位委員還有各位練習的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
2188.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
2193.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
那麼這次修正我們的高級中學教育法第58條 |
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2193.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
2197.62 |
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專科學校法第44條大學法第35條 |
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2198.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
2204.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
那我們希望由主管機關來編列預算負擔學貸的利息 |
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2204.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
2208.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
那現在申請學貸的在學生 |
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2208.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
2212.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
絕大部分是由政府補貼在學期間學貸利息 |
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2212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
2214.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
畢業後才開始複習 |
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2214.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
2219.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
但我們希望是能夠畢業後的利息也由政府來負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
2219.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
2225.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
讓高處社會的年輕人可以免於因為在學期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
2225.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
2228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
求學期間他所累積的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
2229.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
2231.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
然後跟物價飛漲的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
2231.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
2237.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
讓我們的年輕人一出社會就面臨過度沉重的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
2237.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
2239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那麼在本席的修法版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
2240.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
2245.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
也特別指出政府補助家庭所得5等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
2245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
2251.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
最低20%的經濟弱勢大專院校學生可免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
2251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
2255.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
這些在在都是希望能夠來去實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
2255.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
2257.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
賴清德總統自己講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
2257.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
2260.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
用國家的力量投資下一代 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
2260.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
2264.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
讓每個孩子都擁有公平發展的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
2264.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
2269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
讓孩子們出社會時都能夠輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
2269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
2273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
讓年輕人更輕盈邁向人生新階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
2273.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
2275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
勇敢追逐夢想 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
2275.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
2279.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
所以如果我們的政府希望讓我們的年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
2279.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
2282.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
現在真的很辛苦的年輕人可以輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
2283.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
2286.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
面對社會非常大的挑戰跟壓力的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
2286.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
2292.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
那我想今天我們所推動的修法工作就非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
2293.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
2294.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
那我也要特別提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
2294.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
2296.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
就是因為少子化 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
2296.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
2298.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
升級學代人數逐年下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
2298.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
2303.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
那根據教育部統計103年的懸念度 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
2303.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
2306.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
大概是57萬人次生代 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
2306.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
2308.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
那10年後113年度 |
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2309.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
2312.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
懸念度只剩下33萬人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
2312.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
2318.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
生代金額從233億元減少到114億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
2318.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
2322.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
那這相對也使得政府其實 |
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2322.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
2326.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
也有更多的經費可以用來放寬學代的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
2326.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
2333.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
那賴總統也提出要將學代利率從1.775%降為0.775% |
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2333.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
2335.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
那教育部預估再降1% |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
2336.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
2338.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
大概是每年投入15億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
2338.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
2342.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
所以如果我們今天能夠再更進一步的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
2343.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
2346.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
把它降到0其實也不會再超過多降1% |
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2346.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
2350.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
那因此增加的預算其實並不會超過15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
2351.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
2354.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
那這是為什麼我們今天希望能夠提出來的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
2354.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
2357.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
修法的重心 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
2357.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
2361.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
就是希望站在年輕人的視角 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
2361.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
2364.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
來看看他們所面臨的挑戰 |
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2364.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
2366.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
那作為政府的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
2366.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
2371.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
應該要成為年輕人最大的助力跟最強的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
2372.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
2375.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
所以也希望我們今天的修法能夠順利的通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
2376.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
2376.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
2378.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
2379.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
好謝謝羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
2380.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
2382.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
是不是請委員幫我們代理主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
2382.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
2384.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
好 徐以臻委員請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
2395.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
2397.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
主席 各位同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
2398.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
2400.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
本席這次提出大學法第35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
2400.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
2403.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
修文 條文的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
2403.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
2405.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
高級中等教育法第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
2405.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
2409.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
以及專科學校法第44條的條文修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
2409.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
2412.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
三案其修 核心的目的只有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
2412.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
2414.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
就是要透過本次的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
2414.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
2416.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
實質減輕我國青年學子負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
2416.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
2419.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
落實我國教育平權與青年發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
2420.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
2422.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
這次的提案有兩個主要的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
2422.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
2425.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
一是讓就讀大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
2425.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
2427.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
高中職以及專科的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
2427.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
2429.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
他們的就學貸款利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
2429.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
2432.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
應由政府編列預算全額補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
2432.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
2434.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
再來就是本金攤還 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
2434.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
2436.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
應資學生學業完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
2436.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
2440.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
服完兵役等滿兩年這次日期開始計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
2440.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
2441.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
就學貸款的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
2441.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
2443.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
是為了協助學生接受教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
2444.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
2446.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
落實教育平權所制定的重要措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
2447.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
2450.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
它本來就是要讓所有部分出生的學子 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
2450.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
2452.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
都能夠公平的享有受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
2453.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
2455.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
然而檢視現行的制度發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
2455.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
2457.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
對於正在就學中的學子 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
2457.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
2459.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
或者剛踏入社會的年輕人來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
2460.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
2461.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
就學貸款已經變成他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
2462.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
2464.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
一套社會的沉重負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
2464.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
2466.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
因為一出上門 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
2466.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
2468.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
在還沒有在我們腳步之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
2468.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
2470.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
就要開始面對房租 伙食費 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
2470.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
2473.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
通勤費 水電費等排山倒海 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
2474.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
2475.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
而來的經濟壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
2475.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
2477.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
而當前的年輕人在畢業後 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
2477.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
2480.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
面臨著極為沉重的生活成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
2480.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
2482.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
跟就業初期的低薪待遇的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
2482.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
2485.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
再加上近年來大環境的惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
2485.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
2488.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
國內的物價持續的攀升 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
2488.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
2490.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
通膨的壓力不斷的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
2490.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
2492.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
也讓我們的青青學子苦不堪言 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
2493.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
2495.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
看不到希望 看不到未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
2495.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
2497.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
而賴清德總統在上個月27號 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
2498.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
2499.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
有針對少子化的問題 |
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2499.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
2501.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
召開國安高層會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
2502.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
2504.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
並發布臺灣人口對策新戰略 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
2505.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
2508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
代表政府終於正視少子化問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
2508.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
2512.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
少子化問題是國家安全層級的危機 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
2512.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
2514.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
也知道學代其中 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
2514.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
2517.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
學代的壓力是其中一個來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
2517.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
2519.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
但是政府召開國安會議後 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
2519.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
2521.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
對於學代的減壓者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
2521.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
2524.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
利息減一趴 減嚴加一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
2524.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
2525.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
這部分我們認為是 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
2525.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
2528.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
杯水車薪遠遠不夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
2528.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
2529.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
政府必須展現 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
2529.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
2531.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
破釜沉舟的決心 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
2531.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
2533.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
唯有實質的免除利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
2533.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
2534.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
延長寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
2534.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
2535.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
學代制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
2535.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
2538.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
才能真正的發揮教育品權的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
2539.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
2541.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
希望今天大家一起來共同 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
2541.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
2544.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
支持這個修法的通過 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
2546.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
2549.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
好 我們請羅庭薇委員進行提案說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
2556.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
2558.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
好 今天審查高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
2558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
2560.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
大學法 專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
2560.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
2561.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
我們營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
2562.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
2563.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
還有最重要的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
2563.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
2565.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
所有學生團體一直不斷在關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
2566.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
2567.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
尤其是學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
2568.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
2569.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
我想我必須要跟大家說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
2571.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
2572.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
這個禮拜一啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
2573.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
2574.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
其實也有排考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
2575.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
2576.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
但不是我排的 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
2576.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
2578.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
我希望大家能夠將心比心 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
2579.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
2582.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
各個政黨在排期程的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
2583.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
2585.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
都是雙套標準的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
2585.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
2586.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
我覺得這個不太好 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
2587.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
2589.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
那我想執政黨有自己的執政壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
2589.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
2591.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
希望預算能夠趕快通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
2591.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
2593.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
在野黨有自己的期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
2593.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
2596.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
但執政黨只完成了自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
2597.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
2598.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
預算的審核之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
2599.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
2603.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
也沒有去幫忙處理相對應的民生問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
2604.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
2605.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
所以許多的學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
2606.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
2608.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
不斷的來拜訪拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
2608.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
2609.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
學代的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
2610.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
2611.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
學生的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
2612.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
2616.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
我們透過跟學生團體不斷的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
2616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
2617.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
我們相信 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
2618.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
2621.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
現在整個七年生活的成本增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
2622.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
2625.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
我們希望幫忙能夠降低生活的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
2626.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
2628.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
這都是有可能影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
2629.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
2630.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
日後 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
2631.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
2635.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
他們對於生活上遇到困難挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
2635.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
2637.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
甚至是未來成家立業 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
2639.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
2642.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
都有可能影響到整個生活的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
2642.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
2645.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
導致後續可能沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
2645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
2647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
更好的進入職場 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
2647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
2649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
更好的進入家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
2650.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
2651.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
也會影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
2652.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
2653.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
我們的出生率 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
2654.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
2655.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
林當18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
2656.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
2657.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
更於每個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
2658.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
2659.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
5000元 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
2659.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
2660.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
真的夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
2660.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
2662.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
所以我們現在面對問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
2662.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
2663.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
解決問題 |
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2663.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
2666.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我也很感謝學生團體不斷的在拜訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
2666.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
2668.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
國民黨許多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
2668.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
2670.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
所以今天也有許多的委員 |
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2670.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
2672.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
在很早之前就已經先提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
2672.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
2674.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
我們趕緊進入來排案 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
2674.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
2675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
來做審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
2675.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
2678.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
來幫學生來解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
2678.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
2680.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
2680.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
2681.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
我們希望明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
2681.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
2683.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
由主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
2683.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
2686.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
編列預算全額負擔就學貸款利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
2686.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
2690.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
並增訂經濟弱勢學生勉強學費之規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
2690.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
2691.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
2691.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
2692.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
同學也在反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
2692.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
2694.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
在申請學貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
2694.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
2696.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
還沒有下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
2696.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
2698.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
通過的這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
2698.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
2700.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
能不能給予幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
2701.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
2702.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
能不能夠落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
2702.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
2704.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
整個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
2704.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
2706.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
關心關懷的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
2706.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
2708.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
這個都是我們現在要關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
2708.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
2709.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
我們要來努力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
2709.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
2710.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
所以也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
2710.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
2712.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
大家能夠共同來 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
2712.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
2715.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
關注學生就業的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
2717.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
2718.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
2718.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
2720.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
還有就學過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
2720.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
2722.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
所增加的這些成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
2722.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
2724.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
所以今天特別排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
2724.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
2726.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
希望大家一起來為 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
2726.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
2728.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
這些學生來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
2728.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
2730.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
我想也要再一次的拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
2730.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
2732.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
我們所有期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
2732.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
2734.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
排列都有自己的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
2734.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
2736.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
我們尊重所有的委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
2736.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
2738.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
但也希望委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
2738.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
2740.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
能夠給予我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
2740.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
2741.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
這次法案的排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
2741.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
2742.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
有其必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
2742.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
2743.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
2755.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
2756.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
提案說明完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
2759.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
2760.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
本會議才一併報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
2760.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
2761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
綜合詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
2761.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
2762.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
現在進行報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
2762.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
2765.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
請教育部朱俊彰次長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
2766.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
2767.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
時間8分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
2775.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
2776.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
2776.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
2777.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
各位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
2777.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
2778.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
大家早 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
2778.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
2781.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
今日大院召開教育及文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
2781.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
2783.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
審查高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
2783.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
2784.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
第20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
2784.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
2786.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
第58條修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
2786.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
2788.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
大學法第35條修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
2788.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
2791.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
專科學校法第44條修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
2791.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
2793.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
今日的應邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
2793.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
2796.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
列席領聽委員寶貴的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
2796.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
2797.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
盛感榮幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
2797.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
2798.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
以下緊就本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
2798.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
2800.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
對於各項修正草案的整體回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
2800.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
2801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
提出報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
2801.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
2803.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
進行各位委員指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
2803.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
2804.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
有關委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
2804.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
2807.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
高級中等教育法第20條修法內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
2807.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
2808.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
主要涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
2808.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
2811.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
高級中等學校輔導主任的任用資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
2811.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
2812.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
在現行的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
2812.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
2814.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
是考量學生的輔導工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
2814.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
2815.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
具有高度的專業性 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
2815.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
2817.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
因此明令輔導主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
2817.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
2820.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
由專任的輔導教師來擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
2820.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
2822.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
以維持學生的受輔的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
2822.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
2825.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
及專業領導的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
2825.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
2827.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
在學生輔導工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
2827.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
2828.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
具有高度的專業性 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
2828.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
2830.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
涉及到心理的輔導維基處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
2830.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
2833.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
及特殊學生的一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
2833.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
2835.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
因此維持具有輔導專業背景的 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
2835.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
2838.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
專任輔導教師來擔任主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
2838.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
2842.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
確實有助於確保整個輔導品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
2842.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
2843.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
及專業的領導 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
2843.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
2847.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
在113年修正的學生輔導法 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
2847.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
2849.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
雖然規定學校的輔導主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
2849.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
2853.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
已由具輔導專業專長者 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
2853.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
2854.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
優先來任用 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
2855.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
2857.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
但立法背景主要是因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
2857.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
2860.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
國民中小學制度的特性 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
2860.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
2863.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
與高級中等教育法強調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
2863.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
2866.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
輔導專業的立法精神並無不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
2866.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
2868.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
第三 蔡... |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
2869.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
2871.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
教育部我們請以邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
2871.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
2874.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
地方政府及各級學校的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
2874.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
2875.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
進行研商 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
2875.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
2877.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
多數的一位代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
2877.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
2879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
認為高級中等學校輔導主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
2879.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
2881.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
能以由專業輔導教師來兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
2881.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
2885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
以維持輔導工作的專業品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
2885.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
2886.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
2886.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
2888.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
考量部分學校可能面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
2888.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
2890.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
能源配置的困難問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
2890.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
2892.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
本部將持續收集各界的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
2892.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
2894.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
並研議相關的配套措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
2894.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
2898.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
來兼顧學生的輔導品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
2898.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
2900.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
以及學校的食物需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
2900.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
2902.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
二 關於委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
2902.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
2904.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
高級中等教育法58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
2904.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
2905.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
大學法35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
2905.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
2907.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
專業學校法44條的修正內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
2907.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
2910.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
主要是涉及到學生就學學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
2910.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
2912.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
以及就學貸款等議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
2912.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
2916.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
在現行各項的多元的 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
2916.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
2918.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
助學措施的推動下 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
2918.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
2920.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
學生已經可以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
2920.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
2922.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
不同的教育階段獲得協助跟支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
2922.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
2924.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
在高級中等教育階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
2924.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
2928.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
從112學年度第二學期開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
2928.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
2930.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
已經實施了高中子免學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
2930.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
2932.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
在大專校園階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
2932.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
2934.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
這已經透過各類的學雜費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
2934.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
2937.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
拉近公司立學校的學費差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
2937.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
2939.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
及配套措施方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
2939.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
2941.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
大專校園若是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
2941.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
2943.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
就學計畫等等措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
2943.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
2945.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
精準投放照顧約 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
2945.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
2947.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
52%的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
2949.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
2954.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
同時也讓不同的學生獲得學費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
2954.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
2957.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
跟學習生活的一個支援 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
2957.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
2959.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
在現行的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
2959.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
2962.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
可以學習應應學生需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
2962.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
2964.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
做調整的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
2964.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
2966.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
精準投放支援來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
2966.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
2968.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
需要幫助跟突發 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
2968.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
2970.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
被雇的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
2970.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
2973.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
協助他們籌碼學位上的困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
2973.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
2976.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
我想這部分在現行的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
2976.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
2978.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
跟就學貸款都可以來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
2979.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
2981.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
那就委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
2981.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
2983.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
我們也做了以下的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
2983.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
2985.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
1.現行的助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
2985.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
2987.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
已經有相關的執法跟計畫作為參據 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
2987.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
2989.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
可以來因應政策跟經濟情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
2989.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
2991.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
做滾動的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
2991.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
2995.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
本部將持續的推動各項助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
2995.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
2997.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
就各項的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
2997.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
2999.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
實施的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
2999.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
3001.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
及學生的實際需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
3001.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
3003.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
滾動來修正法規命令、行政規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
3003.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
3005.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
及相關的助學計畫跟方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
3005.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
3007.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
來及時彈性回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
3007.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
3009.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
以及照顧學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
3009.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
3010.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
對於委員提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
3010.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
3012.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
家庭所的進而適用稅率 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
3012.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
3016.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
12%以內免納學雜費 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
3016.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
3018.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
家庭所的5等份 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
3018.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
3020.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
最低20%的免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
3020.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
3022.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
增訂拉進方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
3022.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
3024.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
助學退套入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
3024.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
3026.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
補助額度定期檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
3026.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
3028.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
不得低於前一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
3028.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
3030.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
就學貸款的生態資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
3030.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
3032.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
放寬至150萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
3032.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
3034.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
由教育部全額負擔利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
3034.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
3036.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
由主管機關負擔利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
3036.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
3038.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
寬限期放寬至2年 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
3038.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
3040.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
同樣的修法內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
3040.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
3042.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
以本部現行推動各項助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
3042.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
3044.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
以優先協助經濟相對弱勢的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
3044.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
3046.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
逐步擴大照顧對象的橫概範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
3046.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
3048.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
3048.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
3050.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
現行的授權執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
3050.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
3052.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
跟相關的授權計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
3052.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
3054.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
已經可以拉入來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
3054.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
3056.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
在今年5月27日 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
3056.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
3058.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
總統也宣布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
3058.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
3060.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
就代的改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
3060.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
3062.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
其中針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
3062.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
3064.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
在學期間的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
3064.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
3066.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
全面免利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
3066.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
3068.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
畢業後的寬限期 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
3068.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
3070.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
由一年延長為兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
3070.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
3072.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
畢業還款時的 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
3072.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
3074.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
貸款利息能夠再調降1% |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
3074.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
3076.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
這些都是已經在現行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
3076.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
3078.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
就學貸款辦法以及作為細則 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
3078.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
3080.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
就可以來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
3080.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
3082.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
第三委員建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
3082.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
3084.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
希望能夠針對電腦及 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
3084.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
3086.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
網路通訊使用費 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
3086.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
3088.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
等等貸款項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
3088.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
3090.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
以及增訂政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
3090.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
3092.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
應依學生家庭所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
3092.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
3094.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
或其他突發的經濟不利的情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
3094.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
3096.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
提供經濟不利處境的學生助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
3096.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
3098.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
等授權文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
3098.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
3100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
納入相關法律規的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
3100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
3102.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
與本部現行以 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
3104.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
3106.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
就就啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
3106.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
3108.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
就學貸款及學生輔導制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
3108.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
3110.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
所提的修正建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
3110.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
3112.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
核心的目標都是在於強化 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
3112.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
3114.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
對於學生的支持的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
3114.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
3116.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
照顧經濟不利處境的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
3116.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
3118.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
來維護學生的受教權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
3118.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
3120.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
本部的立場與委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
3120.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
3122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
3122.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
3124.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
那也希望能夠兼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
3124.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
3126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
在法治跟政策執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
3126.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
3128.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
3128.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
3130.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
那也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
3130.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
3132.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
能夠兼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
3132.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
3134.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
在法治跟政策執行的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
3134.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
3136.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
那也希望能夠兼顧在法治跟政策執行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
3136.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
3138.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
即時性跟彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
3138.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
3140.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
讓教育部無需透過修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
3140.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
3142.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
或是我們用 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
3142.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
3144.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
教授權性的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
3144.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
3146.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
就可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
3146.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
3148.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
更激動彈性的照顧我們的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
3148.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
3150.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
那教育部也會持續透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
3150.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
3152.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
學雜費減免各項的若是助學 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
3152.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
3154.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
計畫就學貸款等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
3154.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
3156.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
以及專業輔導的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
3156.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
3158.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
讓資源能夠更精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
3158.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
3160.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
的運用幫助真正有需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
3160.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
3162.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
學生以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
3162.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
3164.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
請主席及各位委員給予本部指導與支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
3164.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
3166.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
請祝各位委員身體健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
3166.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
3168.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
工作順利謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
3169.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
3171.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
好謝謝朱市長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
3171.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
3173.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
其餘提出書面報告機關代表除書面外 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
3173.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
3175.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
有無口同補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
3177.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
3179.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
機關代表報告完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
3179.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
3181.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
相關書面資料請各位參閱並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
3182.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
3184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
現在進行巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
3184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
3186.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
每位出席委員6分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
3186.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
3188.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
練習委員諮詢時間為4分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
3188.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
3190.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
均不再延長 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
3190.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
3192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
發言時間登記為上午10點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
3192.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
3194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
委員如果有臨時提案請於上午10點半之前提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
3194.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
3196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
並於法案審查完畢後再行處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
3196.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
3198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
處理提案直落提案的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
3198.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
3200.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
或者是連署的委員均不在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
3200.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
3202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
照軟例不處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
3202.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
3204.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
那首先請登記第一位柯志恩委員諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
3212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
3214.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
好我們謝謝周偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
3214.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
3216.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
我是不是可以請次長朱次長跟我們的彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
3218.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
3220.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
有請次長朱次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
3222.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
3224.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
3223.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
3225.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
走 等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
3233.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
3237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
好謝謝我想請問兩位或在場所有教育部的相關官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
3237.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
3239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
最近很夯的一部韓劇鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
3239.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
3241.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
看過的人請舉手一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
3243.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
3245.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
這麼少啊就只有彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
3245.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
3247.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
那你們教育部真的太不接地氣了 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
3247.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
3249.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
為什麼這部戲這麼樣子的夯 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
3249.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
3251.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
因為它雖然是韓國也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
3251.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
3253.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
戲劇非常漫畫式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
3253.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
3255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
可是它說出了非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
3255.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
3257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
目前校園老師的一個心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
3257.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
3259.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
很多人看完之後呢就覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
3259.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
3261.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
淒涼難過 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
3261.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
3263.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
但是又很爽 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
3263.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
3265.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
原因就是他們是多麼希望在這麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
3265.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
3267.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
惡劣的環境當中當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
3267.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
3269.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
自己壓抑這麼多那是一種心情的投射 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
3269.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
3271.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
希望有很多人能夠幫 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
3271.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
3273.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
他們來紓解來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
3273.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
3275.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
所以我覺得教育部的官員應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
3275.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
3277.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
不要把它當作只是一部劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
3277.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
3279.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
它反映了非常多的現實的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
3279.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
3281.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
人生啊然後呢特別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
3281.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
3283.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
我們在5月25號的時候我們高雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
3283.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
3285.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
發生了一件非常不幸的事件就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
3285.17 |
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有老師來墜樓 |
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而這個部分你們都完全顯示出 |
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他們目前所處的環境是相當 |
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不友善的那我想請問一下 |
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有關於老師的墜樓這件事情 |
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當中教育部內部有沒有 |
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因為這件事情引發 |
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3301.17 |
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上市會議純費的問題有沒有進行討論 |
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3303.06 |
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次長或是署長 |
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根本報告針對 |
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校事會議的調整在去年 |
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再不啟動一相關的 |
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討論之後在近年1月 |
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已經修正了我們我們都看到 |
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但是這個修正很顯然對於 |
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校園老師的壓力跟友善 |
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完全無解 |
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而且呢我說實在的從 |
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墜樓校事會議我真的 |
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覺得教育部應該有更積極的做法 |
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連部長都應該是寫 |
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舉例來說在你的 |
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網站上寫一個告全國 |
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老師的信件來撫慰他們這些 |
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老師的一個心情結果竟然 |
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都沒有而且最重要的是呢你們 |
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不但網站沒有教育部臉書 |
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老師5月25號墜樓5 |
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月28號你們墜樓的 |
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三天你們連發兩篇一篇是台 |
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美MOU行政記者會一個是 |
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0到18歲家庭支持 |
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然後呢留言很多 |
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如果有人小編上去看的話 |
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你會看到很多人就去請長官 |
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看看現在校園體系到底崩壞 |
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成什麼樣子老師被 |
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歧視被濫訴你們 |
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| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
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怎麼樣這些東西都是出現在 |
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你們教育部的網站你們就 |
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應該知道如果是你們語情調查 |
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你們就應該知道現在大家 |
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所關切的事情是什麼就 |
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應該做成回應啊而不是來自 |
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一些完全沒有的一些 |
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一些所謂行政的一個宣導 |
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而且呢我在針對這件事情之後 |
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呢就提出了幾項的建議 |
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給教育部三個月的時間 |
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這有很困難嗎我再說 |
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一次第一個呢我們就是 |
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完全希望能夠定一個全國一致的 |
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老師身心健康 |
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權益的保障因為每個縣市 |
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| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
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裡面他們的一些所謂的經費 |
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不一樣有些人有千萬但是 |
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呢還是很多老師還是排不上 |
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有些人是非常的拮据 |
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所以我們希望教育部能夠為了老師的 |
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身心能夠研製一個統一 |
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的標準第二個我們希望他 |
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能夠防範惡意的一個騷擾 |
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目前來說很多的霸凌 |
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的防治都聚焦在 |
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師對生的反範 |
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| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
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但是缺乏生對師 |
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或是家長對師的這個 |
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惡意的騷擾所以說呢根據韓國 |
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的一些經驗您看明確 |
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| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
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的規範受益的部分包括 |
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| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
3429.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
羞辱威脅惡意攻擊的標準的 |
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| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
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作業程序這些都是老師很希望 |
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能夠看到的然後第三個 |
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老師你也可以考慮一下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
去評估一下離線權 |
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很多家長老師下班 |
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| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
3441.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
之後呢還不斷地打電話連個最 |
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| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
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平毛的小事情也要打電話 |
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到了九點十點才打電話 |
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老師如果不回應的話反而 |
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| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
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就很容易讓老師被 |
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控制上的不重視學生的這樣 |
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的一個部分就不應該都有提到 |
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| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
這個部分嘛第四個我強調 |
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嚴重脫序的學生 |
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| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
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你應該提出安置跟 |
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輕職責任的一個給予啊 |
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所以說呢很多老師現在不敢 |
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管不能管跟不願管 |
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你讓這個老師的尊嚴蕩然無存 |
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| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
然後讓這些事情不斷在發生 |
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就要不毫無作為 |
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| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
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給予一個合理的一個輔導 |
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| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
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輔導的管教權有很困難嗎 |
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還有關稅消失回憶你如果現在 |
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| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
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不能廢的話你是不是有辦法有做 |
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| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
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一個第三方校園衝突的仲裁委員會 |
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你可以不願意捐款 |
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提供一些法律的協助啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
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不要每一件事情送到這個地方 |
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讓老師好站在那邊受到公審 |
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你知道對於老師對於有熱忱 |
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| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
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老師對這件事情來說他們 |
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| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
身心所受到的一個煎熬 |
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| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
3497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
交通難道視而不見嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
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你一月提出的修正 |
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匯錢匯很顯然很多老師不買 |
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那你不應該再做精進的做法嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
署長次長可不可以給我們一個 |
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更好更積極的做法 |
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3509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
3511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
謝謝委員我想分兩點不來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
3511.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
3513.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
在叫消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
3513.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
3515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
今年一月調整之後我們有對外 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
3515.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
3517.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
承諾在半年內我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
3517.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
3519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
收集現場做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
3519.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
3521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
目前初步收集的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
3521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
3523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
整個消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
3523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
3525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
送進去受理 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
3525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
3527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
之後整個比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
3527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
3529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
其實已經從先前82 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
3529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
3531.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
會進入消失會議現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
3531.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
3533.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
降到只有百分之二十二 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
3533.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
3535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
會在消失會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
3535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
3537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
你覺得二十二很少嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
3537.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
3539.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
已經從82降到 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
3539.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
3541.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
本來就是非常不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
3541.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
3543.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
剛開始八十幾的時候 |
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3543.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
3545.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
你就知道老師身心做到多大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
3545.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
3547.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
創傷你都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
3547.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
3549.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
無視於這樣的一個事實你們還告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
3549.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
3551.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
降到二十幾你覺得這是一個很好的功勞嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
3553.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
3555.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
我們會根據這段時間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
3555.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
3557.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
一個資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
3557.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
3559.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
也會再做持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
3559.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
3561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
很多事情真的不用進到消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
3561.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
3563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
如果之前能夠有個更有法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
3563.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
3565.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
措施上面讓很多可能是誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
3565.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
3567.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
可能需要溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
3567.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
3569.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
來做這樣的一個處理的話勢必可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
3569.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
3571.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
減低更多所以說這個部分裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
3571.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
3573.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
七月你剛說一月公佈的話六個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
3573.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
3575.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
收集請你能夠收集一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
3575.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
3577.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
更好的資料為什麼我要這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
3577.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
3579.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
因為我光光跟你提你報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
3579.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
3581.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
有關於高級中等教師教育法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
3581.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
3583.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
第二十條就是本人所提案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
3583.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
3585.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
你從頭告訴我你找的一堆的 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
3585.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
3587.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
老師各地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
3587.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
3589.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
對不起本人所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
3589.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
3591.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
是完全中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
3591.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
3593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
你完全是拿一般性的中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
3593.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
3595.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
來跟我處理這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
3595.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
3597.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
次長署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
3597.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
3599.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
我強調的是完全中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
3599.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
3601.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
裡面現在現實環境當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
3601.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
3603.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
所面臨的一些的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
3603.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
3605.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
我當然知道專業非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
3605.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
3607.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
的重要我訓練這麼多學生我怎麼知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
3607.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
3609.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
專業不重要但是今天跟我 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
3609.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
3611.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
陳情的就是完全中學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
3611.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
3613.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
老師因為國中跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
3613.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
3615.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
高中他們一個人要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
3615.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
3617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
國中跟高中的兩樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
3617.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
3619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
階段的事情然後你現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
3619.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
3621.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
完全比照高中的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
3621.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
3623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
專職的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
3623.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
3625.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
就是專輔的老師才有辦法兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
3625.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
3627.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
可是目前國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
3627.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
3629.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
的很多的老師的輔導主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
3629.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
3631.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
他有這樣的證照他也具有熱誠 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
3631.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
3633.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
而且根據我們現在國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
3633.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
3635.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
教育法第二十一條三項的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
3635.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
3637.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
或者甚至我們新修 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
3637.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
3639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
學生輔導法的規定都 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
3639.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
3641.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
告訴大家只要具有 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
3641.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
3643.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
這樣子的輔導的這個行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
3643.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
3645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
的專業性都可以我現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
3645.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
3647.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
專職完全中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
3647.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
3649.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
你不要拿一般的中學來跟我 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
3649.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
3651.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
討論這個狀況我們只希望在 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
3651.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
3653.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
完全中學當中給現有 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
3653.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
3655.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
的國中的輔導主任他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
3655.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
3657.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
處理的時候能夠保有他行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
3657.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
3659.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
上面的這樣子的彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
3659.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
3661.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
所以不要拿一般東西來你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
3661.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
3663.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
真的在這件事上有真的問過完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
3663.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
3665.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
中學這些輔導主任的看法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
3665.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
3667.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
有嗎你們找了這麼多人 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
3668.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
3670.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
如果我在地方看了這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
3670.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
3672.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
你有找過完全中學這些老師的看法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
3672.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
3674.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
是是跟委員回報兩點 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
3674.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
3676.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
剛剛提到這一點以及前面那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
3676.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
3678.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
教師會議或教師輔導管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
3678.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
3680.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
首先後面這一點的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
3680.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
3682.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
那我們會根據委員最近的 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
3682.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
3684.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
提案我們要考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
3684.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
3686.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
完全中學的特性邀請會議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
3686.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
3688.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
也是有邀請但是能不能更全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
3688.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
3690.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
會照委員的意思再邀 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
3690.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
3692.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
今天如果修法在 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
3692.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
3694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
實質討論上是不是給我們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
3694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
3696.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
剛剛有提到有比較完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
3696.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
3698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
的背道措施因為畢竟 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
3698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
3700.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
希望能夠專業來領導 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
3700.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
3702.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
專業這件事我完全無意 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
3702.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
3704.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
但是我現在討論的是現實的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
3704.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
3706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
現在的問題就是完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
3706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
3708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
中學不要拿那個一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
3708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
3710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
一般的法條沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
3710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
3712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
完全中學老師就面臨了一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
3712.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
3714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
身兼高中跟國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
3714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
3716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
那國中老師因為你們像這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
3716.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
3718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
過去之後破壞他 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
3718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
3720.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
過去長期以來可以當 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
3720.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
3722.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
輔導主任在專業上的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
3722.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
3724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
有他的需要以及在 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
3724.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
3726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
服務運作上有委員考慮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
3726.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
3728.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
這個就是我們來一起在研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
3728.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
3730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
下午的專案討論的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
3730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
3732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
法條上我們會詳細跟委員 |
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3732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
3734.52 |
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報告第二點是回到剛剛 |
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3734.52 |
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3736.52 |
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校事會議這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
3736.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
3738.52 |
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在1月12號修法之後有一個 |
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3738.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
3740.52 |
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非常重要的精神一個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
3740.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
3742.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
分流一個是減少 |
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3742.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
3744.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
匿名這個委員都知道那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
3744.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
3746.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
減量的非常大但這個不足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
3746.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
3748.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
因此委員剛剛直指問題是老師 |
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3748.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
3750.52 |
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的管教權管教權的部分涉及到 |
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3750.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
3752.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
學校電電輔導管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
3752.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
3754.52 |
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管教權的部分的 |
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3754.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
3756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
有辦法的注意事項這個由教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
3756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
3758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
學特斯跟國教署一起來定 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
3758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
3760.52 |
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我們會在一個月內就其中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
3760.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
3762.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
第23條24條 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
3762.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
3764.52 |
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所以我現在強調 |
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3764.52 |
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3766.52 |
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剛剛又發生這麼多的事件我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
3766.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
3768.52 |
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強調你們1月所提出來的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
3768.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
3770.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
還是沒有辦法降低目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].start |
3770.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[869].end |
3772.52 |
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來說校園裡面對老師的不友善跟 |
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3772.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[870].end |
3774.52 |
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壓力所以才會有這麼多校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].start |
3774.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[871].end |
3776.52 |
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老師的事件發生所以我才從 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].start |
3776.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].end |
3778.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[872].text |
目前來說老師的情緒 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].start |
3778.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].end |
3780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[873].text |
老師的投射在一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].start |
3780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].end |
3782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[874].text |
劇本單中裡面有這麼多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].start |
3782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].end |
3784.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[875].text |
怨氣所以呢你們剛剛說1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].start |
3784.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[876].end |
3786.52 |
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開始這樣到7月有6個月 |
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3786.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[877].end |
3788.52 |
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的時間能夠提出更 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].start |
3788.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].end |
3790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[878].text |
完善根據目前所 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].start |
3790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].end |
3792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[879].text |
校園裡面老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].start |
3792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].end |
3794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[880].text |
這樣一個不友善能夠提出來我 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].start |
3794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].end |
3796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[881].text |
等著然後我剛剛所提出的那5大項 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].start |
3796.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].end |
3798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[882].text |
3個月之內組長很顯然 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].start |
3798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[883].end |
3800.52 |
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是不需要到3個月更快的時間 |
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3800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].end |
3802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[884].text |
對我們每一項所提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].start |
3802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].end |
3804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[885].text |
這都是老師的心聲能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].start |
3804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].end |
3806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[886].text |
給我們的積極跟非常具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].start |
3806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].end |
3808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[887].text |
一個做法可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].start |
3808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].end |
3810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[888].text |
好沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].start |
3812.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].end |
3814.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[889].text |
好謝謝委員謝謝市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].start |
3815.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].end |
3817.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[890].text |
好有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].start |
3817.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].end |
3819.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[891].text |
校事會議還有校園霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].start |
3819.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].end |
3821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[892].text |
大家都非常關切所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].start |
3821.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].end |
3823.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[893].text |
也感謝委員引出 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].start |
3823.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].end |
3825.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[894].text |
我們鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].start |
3825.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].end |
3827.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[895].text |
為什麼會讓大家這麼關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].start |
3827.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].end |
3829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[896].text |
下禮拜一我們會舉辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].start |
3829.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].end |
3831.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[897].text |
相關的公聽會來檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].start |
3831.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].end |
3833.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[898].text |
校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].start |
3833.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].end |
3835.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[899].text |
那也希望讓最 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].start |
3835.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].end |
3837.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[900].text |
第一線老師來到委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].start |
3837.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].end |
3839.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[901].text |
來發聲下禮拜一 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].start |
3839.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].end |
3841.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[902].text |
也歡迎所有的委員能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].start |
3841.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].end |
3843.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[903].text |
一起來為現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].start |
3843.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].end |
3845.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[904].text |
校園狀況來發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].start |
3845.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].end |
3847.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[905].text |
感謝大家謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].start |
3847.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].end |
3849.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[906].text |
下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].start |
3849.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].end |
3851.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[907].text |
陳佩儀委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].start |
3854.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].end |
3856.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[908].text |
好謝謝主席有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].start |
3857.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].end |
3859.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[909].text |
有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].start |
3860.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].end |
3862.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[910].text |
好早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].start |
3862.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].end |
3864.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[911].text |
因著剛剛克志恩委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].start |
3864.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].end |
3866.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[912].text |
我就先直接往下說但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].start |
3866.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].end |
3868.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[913].text |
我想要先提醒大家一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].start |
3868.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].end |
3870.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[914].text |
制度之所以會改革其實確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].start |
3870.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].end |
3872.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[915].text |
是因為在現場發生了一些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].start |
3872.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].end |
3874.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[916].text |
不知道大家還記不記得豐原高中案 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].start |
3874.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].end |
3876.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[917].text |
是因為豐原高中案 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].start |
3876.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].end |
3878.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[918].text |
所以我們促成了三聘辦法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].start |
3878.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].end |
3880.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[919].text |
修訂也促成了校園霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].start |
3880.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].end |
3882.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[920].text |
防治準則的修訂當然也 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].start |
3882.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].end |
3884.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[921].text |
促成了校事會議這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].start |
3884.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].end |
3886.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[922].text |
可是為了預防再一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].start |
3886.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].end |
3888.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[923].text |
發生學生墜樓的悲劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].start |
3888.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].end |
3890.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[924].text |
現在我們看見是更多老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].start |
3890.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].end |
3892.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[925].text |
校園的悲劇但我要說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].start |
3892.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].end |
3894.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[926].text |
在校園裡面不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].start |
3894.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].end |
3896.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[927].text |
只有學生也不會只有老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].start |
3896.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].end |
3898.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[928].text |
他還有行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].start |
3898.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].end |
3900.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[929].text |
行政主管甚至大家不要忘記 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].start |
3900.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].end |
3902.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[930].text |
學生背後有家長所以當有 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].start |
3902.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].end |
3904.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[931].text |
家長的聲音老師的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].start |
3904.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].end |
3906.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[932].text |
學生的聲音還有所有行政的 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].start |
3906.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].end |
3908.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[933].text |
聲音是在校園裡面大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].start |
3908.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].end |
3910.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[934].text |
是共同在承擔這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].start |
3910.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].end |
3912.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[935].text |
壓力的時候我們就必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].start |
3912.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].end |
3914.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[936].text |
積極的提出一個我們辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].start |
3914.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].end |
3916.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[937].text |
一直在跟教育部溝通的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].start |
3916.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].end |
3918.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[938].text |
但是我想先來下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].start |
3918.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].end |
3920.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[939].text |
我想要先拜託教育部看到一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].start |
3920.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].end |
3922.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[940].text |
來下一張 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].start |
3922.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].end |
3924.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[941].text |
目前我們看到不管是全教產 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].start |
3924.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].end |
3926.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[942].text |
或是全教總 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].start |
3926.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].end |
3928.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[943].text |
或者是代理代課老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].start |
3928.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].end |
3930.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[944].text |
工會他們都已經正式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].start |
3930.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].end |
3932.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[945].text |
發出聲明對於老師們 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].start |
3932.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].end |
3934.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[946].text |
在學校所感受到的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].start |
3934.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].end |
3936.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[947].text |
也就是剛剛很多委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].start |
3936.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].end |
3938.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[948].text |
或者是等一下很多委員會要關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].start |
3938.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].end |
3940.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[949].text |
我不知道教育部怎麼看待 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].start |
3940.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].end |
3942.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[950].text |
這三個團體對於教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].start |
3942.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].end |
3944.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[951].text |
提出的沉重呼籲甚至是 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].start |
3944.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].end |
3946.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[952].text |
怒吼但我想你們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].start |
3946.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].end |
3948.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[953].text |
都有收起相關資料我就不再贅述 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].start |
3948.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].end |
3950.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[954].text |
可是我要講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].start |
3950.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].end |
3952.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[955].text |
我們看到這些聲音的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].start |
3952.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].end |
3954.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[956].text |
不要忘記背後還有家長的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].start |
3954.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].end |
3956.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[957].text |
還有學生的聲音還有行政主管的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].start |
3956.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].end |
3958.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[958].text |
甚至校事會議裡面會有 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].start |
3958.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].end |
3960.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[959].text |
所謂調查專家的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].start |
3960.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].end |
3962.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[960].text |
所以如果要把這麼多人的聲音都 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].start |
3962.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].end |
3964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[961].text |
放進考量裡頭我們到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].start |
3964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].end |
3966.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[962].text |
有哪些可能可以做我想要 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].start |
3966.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].end |
3968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[963].text |
試試看跟教育部談以下的解方 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].start |
3968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].end |
3970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[964].text |
來我們做了四件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].start |
3970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].end |
3972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[965].text |
的努力第一個我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].start |
3972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].end |
3974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[966].text |
持續跟教育部溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].start |
3974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].end |
3976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[967].text |
家庭教育這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].start |
3976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].end |
3978.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[968].text |
接下來我們試著想要嘗試提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].start |
3978.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].end |
3980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[969].text |
第三方專責機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].start |
3980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].end |
3982.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[970].text |
第三個就是關於教師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].start |
3982.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].end |
3984.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[971].text |
職業安全指引第四個 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].start |
3984.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].end |
3986.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[972].text |
就是教師的理線權 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].start |
3986.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].end |
3988.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[973].text |
第一個所謂家庭教育這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].start |
3988.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].end |
3990.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[974].text |
我相信教育部一定非常的清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].start |
3990.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].end |
3992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[975].text |
其實相關的預算在新版才化法通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].start |
3992.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].end |
3994.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[976].text |
之後放在教育部本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].start |
3994.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].end |
3996.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[977].text |
終身教育司的家庭教育預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].start |
3996.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].end |
3998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[978].text |
其實逐年下滑 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].start |
3998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].end |
4000.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[979].text |
但是家長對於家庭教育的 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].start |
4000.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].end |
4002.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[980].text |
需求卻逐年上升 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].start |
4002.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].end |
4004.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[981].text |
很多家長不知道如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].start |
4004.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].end |
4006.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[982].text |
面對數位原生世代的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].start |
4006.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].end |
4008.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[983].text |
很多家長也不知道如何去理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].start |
4008.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].end |
4010.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[984].text |
孩子們在學校的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].start |
4010.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].end |
4012.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[985].text |
因此把很多對於孩子的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].start |
4012.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].end |
4014.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[986].text |
錯誤的投射到老師身上 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].start |
4014.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].end |
4016.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[987].text |
就導致於他變成給老師的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].start |
4016.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].end |
4018.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[988].text |
可是如果回到家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].start |
4018.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].end |
4020.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[989].text |
這件事情我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].start |
4020.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].end |
4022.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[990].text |
我們教育部還有非常多事情可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].start |
4022.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].end |
4024.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[991].text |
包含應該精準的投入資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].start |
4024.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].end |
4026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[992].text |
還有擴編家庭教育的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].start |
4026.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].end |
4028.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[993].text |
甚至要多元 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].start |
4028.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].end |
4030.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[994].text |
擴大想像家庭教育的面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].start |
4030.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].end |
4032.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[995].text |
現在我們有家庭教育中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].start |
4032.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].end |
4034.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[996].text |
但是我們看到他們非常習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].start |
4034.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].end |
4036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[997].text |
辦一些課程跟活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].start |
4036.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].end |
4038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[998].text |
但是有沒有真的可以協助到 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].start |
4038.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].end |
4040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[999].text |
現場需要協助的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].start |
4040.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].end |
4042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1000].text |
還有資源如何精準的投放 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].start |
4042.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].end |
4044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1001].text |
最後我也要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].start |
4044.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].end |
4046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1002].text |
過去我看到教育部甚至還主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].start |
4046.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].end |
4048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1003].text |
要叫學校老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].start |
4048.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].end |
4050.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1004].text |
去對家長做家庭教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].start |
4050.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].end |
4052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1005].text |
這件事情來跟我們辦公室開會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].start |
4052.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].end |
4054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1006].text |
是講出這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].start |
4054.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].end |
4056.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1007].text |
我不知道次長你覺得有沒有很荒謬 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].start |
4056.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].end |
4058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1008].text |
當學校老師的壓力已經大到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].start |
4058.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].end |
4060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1009].text |
自己都沒有辦法承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].start |
4060.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].end |
4062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1010].text |
我們居然還要學校老師去協助家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].start |
4062.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].end |
4064.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1011].text |
做家庭教育這件事情請不要再發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].start |
4064.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].end |
4066.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1012].text |
所以關於家庭教育的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].start |
4066.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].end |
4068.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1013].text |
我就先說到這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].start |
4068.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].end |
4070.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1014].text |
我想把全部的部分都講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].start |
4070.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].end |
4072.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1015].text |
第二個第三方專責機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].start |
4072.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].end |
4074.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1016].text |
我要說的是現在也有很多學校老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].start |
4074.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].end |
4076.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1017].text |
或是學校行政端主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].start |
4076.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].end |
4078.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1018].text |
現在所有的司法狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].start |
4078.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].end |
4080.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1019].text |
發生在校園裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].start |
4080.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].end |
4082.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1020].text |
讓校園不再是純粹的教學機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].start |
4082.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].end |
4084.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1021].text |
但是第三方專責機構 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].start |
4084.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].end |
4086.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1022].text |
這件事情未來有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].start |
4086.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].end |
4088.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1023].text |
我認為在跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].start |
4088.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].end |
4090.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1024].text |
要拜託教育部開始進行研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].start |
4090.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].end |
4092.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1025].text |
當然這個程序當中必須公開公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].start |
4092.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].end |
4094.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1026].text |
確保所有人的相關權益都受到照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].start |
4094.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].end |
4096.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1027].text |
還有要有實名過篩的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].start |
4096.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].end |
4098.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1028].text |
不要讓很多的濫訴一再的發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].start |
4098.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].end |
4100.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1029].text |
同時要有專業人員的主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].start |
4100.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].end |
4102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1030].text |
還有政府資源的投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].start |
4102.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].end |
4104.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1031].text |
因為現場的濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].start |
4104.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].end |
4106.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[1032].text |
我知道你們已經透過一些修法去解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].start |
4110.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].end |
4112.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1033].text |
你剛剛也說相關案件也變低 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].start |
4112.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].end |
4114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1034].text |
但是未來相關的公正性 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].start |
4114.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].end |
4116.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1035].text |
如何確保我剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].start |
4116.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].end |
4118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1036].text |
家長的權益、學生的權益、老師的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].start |
4118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].end |
4120.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1037].text |
還有學校行政單位的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].start |
4120.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].end |
4122.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1038].text |
都必須要受到照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].start |
4122.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].end |
4124.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1039].text |
這件事情沒有辦法偏袒任何一方 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].start |
4124.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].end |
4126.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1040].text |
我們不希望當學生出事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].start |
4126.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].end |
4128.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1041].text |
我們就覺得校事會議很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].start |
4128.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].end |
4130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1042].text |
我們也不希望當老師出事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].start |
4130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].end |
4132.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1043].text |
我們就覺得校事會議不重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].start |
4132.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].end |
4136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1044].text |
我要說學校它是多元的角色所組成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].start |
4136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].end |
4138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1045].text |
沒有任何一個角色可以被偏袒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].start |
4138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].end |
4140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1046].text |
但是也沒有任何一個角色可以被忽略 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].start |
4140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].end |
4144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1047].text |
接下來我要講的是教師職業安全指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].start |
4144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].end |
4146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1048].text |
我們如果去看現行的職安法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].start |
4146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].end |
4150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1049].text |
如果要照顧到學校老師在職場被霸凌的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].start |
4150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].end |
4152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1050].text |
不論是師跟師之間的霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].start |
4152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].end |
4154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1051].text |
或是長官對老師的霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].start |
4154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].end |
4156.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1052].text |
甚至是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].start |
4156.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].end |
4158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1053].text |
如黃剛剛說的鐵錢教育裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].start |
4158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].end |
4160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1054].text |
目前我們看到相關的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].start |
4160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].end |
4162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1055].text |
只有第六條第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].start |
4162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].end |
4164.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1056].text |
有關於執行職務的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].start |
4164.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].end |
4166.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1057].text |
因為他人的行為遭受身體或精神不法侵害之遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].start |
4166.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].end |
4168.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1058].text |
也就是說目前職安法關於老師的部分只有這一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].start |
4168.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].end |
4170.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1059].text |
目前我們看到有教育業務單位指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].start |
4170.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].end |
4172.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1060].text |
各縣市在處理相關的事情會有自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].start |
4172.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].end |
4174.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1061].text |
但是我們要說自治事項是不是各縣市制度都有統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].start |
4174.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].end |
4176.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1062].text |
因為老師不會只有在單一縣市教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].start |
4176.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].end |
4178.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1063].text |
老師一定會掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].start |
4178.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].end |
4180.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1064].text |
所以如果現行的職安法相關的保障不周 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].start |
4180.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].end |
4182.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1065].text |
而老師的職業安全指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].start |
4182.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].end |
4184.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1066].text |
會有自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].start |
4184.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].end |
4186.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1067].text |
所以如果現行的職安法相關的保障不周 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].start |
4186.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].end |
4188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1068].text |
而老師的職業安全指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].start |
4188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].end |
4190.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1069].text |
會有自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].start |
4190.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].end |
4192.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1070].text |
所以如果現行的職安法相關的保障不周 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].start |
4192.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].end |
4194.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1071].text |
而老師的職業安全指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].start |
4194.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].end |
4196.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1072].text |
會有自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].start |
4196.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].end |
4198.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1073].text |
所以如果現行的職安法相關的保障不周 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].start |
4198.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].end |
4200.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1074].text |
而老師的職業安全又沒有辦法被保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].start |
4200.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].end |
4202.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1075].text |
各縣市制度又不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].start |
4202.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].end |
4204.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1076].text |
我們認為有沒有辦法不要經過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].start |
4204.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].end |
4206.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1077].text |
冗長的立法程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].start |
4206.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].end |
4208.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1078].text |
在教育部這邊提出老師的職業安全指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].start |
4208.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].end |
4210.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1079].text |
我認為這件事情是可以比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].start |
4210.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].end |
4212.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1080].text |
快速的保障老師的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].start |
4212.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].end |
4214.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1081].text |
同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].start |
4213.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].end |
4215.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1082].text |
不影響學生跟家長的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].start |
4215.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].end |
4217.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1083].text |
來最後一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].start |
4217.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].end |
4219.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1084].text |
教師離線權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].start |
4219.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].end |
4221.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1085].text |
離線權這件事情我相信是現在第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].start |
4221.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].end |
4223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1086].text |
老師的痛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].start |
4223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].end |
4225.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1087].text |
但是我也可以理解很多家長可能覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].start |
4225.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].end |
4227.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1088].text |
自己下班後才有時間打電話給老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].start |
4227.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].end |
4229.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1089].text |
但是我想教育部應該要有相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].start |
4229.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].end |
4231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1090].text |
規定協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].start |
4231.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].end |
4233.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1091].text |
老師當老師的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].start |
4233.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].end |
4235.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1092].text |
因為每一個人都需要休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].start |
4235.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].end |
4237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1093].text |
孩子們回到家需要休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].start |
4237.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].end |
4239.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1094].text |
所以我們希望孩子不要過度的補習 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].start |
4239.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].end |
4241.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1095].text |
家長下班後我們也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].start |
4241.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].end |
4243.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1096].text |
家長的主管不要打擾家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].start |
4243.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].end |
4245.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1097].text |
所以我們在勞動部有相關的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].start |
4245.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].end |
4247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1098].text |
確保每一個勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].start |
4247.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].end |
4249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1099].text |
離開職場之後他有好好的休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].start |
4249.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].end |
4251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1100].text |
一樣老師他某一個程度上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].start |
4251.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].end |
4253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1101].text |
也需要他也是勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].start |
4253.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].end |
4255.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1102].text |
他也需要被保障他的休息權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].start |
4255.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].end |
4257.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1103].text |
當然我們知道當學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].start |
4257.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].end |
4259.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1104].text |
遇到緊急事故的時候不得不聯絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].start |
4259.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].end |
4261.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1105].text |
老師的時候這個時候他有特殊的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].start |
4261.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].end |
4263.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1106].text |
但是正常的休息時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].start |
4263.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].end |
4265.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1107].text |
老師有權利不被打擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].start |
4265.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].end |
4267.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1108].text |
以上我提出四個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].start |
4267.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].end |
4269.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1109].text |
從教師理學院權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].start |
4269.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].end |
4271.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1110].text |
教師職業安全指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].start |
4271.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].end |
4273.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1111].text |
第三方專責機構跟教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].start |
4273.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].end |
4275.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1112].text |
持續協助家長做家庭教育這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].start |
4275.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].end |
4277.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1113].text |
我想請教育部這邊簡單回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].start |
4277.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].end |
4279.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1114].text |
好謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].start |
4279.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].end |
4281.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1115].text |
一個合理的管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].start |
4281.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].end |
4283.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1116].text |
不要讓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].start |
4283.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].end |
4285.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1117].text |
失去尊嚴或是覺得無力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].start |
4285.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].end |
4287.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1118].text |
但是也要避免學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].start |
4287.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].end |
4289.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1119].text |
學了恐懼或是受到傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].start |
4289.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].end |
4291.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1120].text |
我想這個拿捏 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].start |
4291.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].end |
4293.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1121].text |
確實是教育部未來我們會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].start |
4293.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].end |
4295.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1122].text |
學校跟地方住管機關來進一步的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].start |
4295.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].end |
4297.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1123].text |
一個合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].start |
4297.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].end |
4299.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1124].text |
一個管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].start |
4299.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].end |
4301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1125].text |
那另外在整個校事會議的處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].start |
4301.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].end |
4303.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1126].text |
剛剛也提到我們半年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].start |
4303.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].end |
4305.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1127].text |
會來做一些持續的精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].start |
4305.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].end |
4307.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1128].text |
跟檢討那對於老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].start |
4307.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].end |
4309.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1129].text |
支持跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].start |
4309.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].end |
4311.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1130].text |
激勵的措施陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].start |
4311.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].end |
4313.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1131].text |
講的我們可以朝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].start |
4313.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].end |
4315.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1132].text |
有安全指引甚至透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].start |
4315.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].end |
4317.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1133].text |
家庭教育來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].start |
4317.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].end |
4319.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1134].text |
那教育部我們先前已經有做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].start |
4319.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].end |
4321.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1135].text |
就是在行政減量這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].start |
4321.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].end |
4323.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1136].text |
那另外我們這邊都是希望透過事前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].start |
4323.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].end |
4325.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1137].text |
一個減壓跟事後的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].start |
4325.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].end |
4327.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1138].text |
支持預防來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].start |
4327.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].end |
4329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1139].text |
那最後委員提到了有關 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].start |
4329.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].end |
4331.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1140].text |
第三方的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].start |
4331.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].end |
4333.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1141].text |
仲裁機制這個部分也有跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].start |
4333.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].end |
4335.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1142].text |
有一些討論我想委員今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].start |
4335.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].end |
4337.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1143].text |
建議我們也會來持續的跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].start |
4337.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].end |
4339.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1144].text |
地方政府做一些磋商 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].start |
4339.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].end |
4341.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1145].text |
那離獻權這個部分回到一樣是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].start |
4341.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].end |
4343.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1146].text |
機制面怎麼跟老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].start |
4343.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].end |
4345.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1147].text |
的一個士氣的激勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].start |
4345.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].end |
4347.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1148].text |
我們從去年開始調整了老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].start |
4347.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].end |
4349.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1149].text |
一些相關的家計 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].start |
4349.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].end |
4351.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1150].text |
行政工作的獎金都是朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].start |
4351.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].end |
4353.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1151].text |
在做我想我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].start |
4353.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].end |
4355.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1152].text |
以各具委的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].start |
4355.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].end |
4357.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1153].text |
我們來努力謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].start |
4357.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].end |
4359.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1154].text |
我想我剛剛四個建議其實都不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].start |
4359.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].end |
4361.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1155].text |
即時可以促成的但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].start |
4361.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].end |
4363.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1156].text |
如果沒有累積這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].start |
4363.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].end |
4365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1157].text |
對於制度改革的決心我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].start |
4365.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].end |
4367.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1158].text |
很擔心現場除了老師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].start |
4367.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].end |
4369.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1159].text |
壓力其實家長也有壓力孩子們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].start |
4369.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].end |
4371.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1160].text |
也有壓力但是學校他應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].start |
4371.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].end |
4373.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1161].text |
一個學習的場合他是讓孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].start |
4373.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].end |
4375.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1162].text |
開拓視野也讓老師對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].start |
4375.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].end |
4377.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1163].text |
自己的職業有尊榮感甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].start |
4377.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].end |
4379.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1164].text |
讓家長安心的場域然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].start |
4379.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].end |
4381.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1165].text |
所有願意付出時間做行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].start |
4381.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].end |
4383.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1166].text |
的這些主管們他們也都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].start |
4383.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].end |
4385.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1167].text |
覺得可以安心的支持行政系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].start |
4385.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].end |
4387.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1168].text |
我想這不是一個容易的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].start |
4387.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].end |
4389.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1169].text |
所以我們很負責任提出解放也 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].start |
4389.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].end |
4391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1170].text |
希望持續跟教育部溝通我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].start |
4391.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].end |
4393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1171].text |
把這些聲音從制度面做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].start |
4393.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].end |
4395.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1172].text |
改革拜託教育部我們一起努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].start |
4395.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].end |
4397.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1173].text |
謝謝好謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].start |
4401.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].end |
4403.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1174].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].start |
4404.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].end |
4406.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1175].text |
下一位有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].start |
4406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].end |
4408.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1176].text |
葛如金委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].start |
4422.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].end |
4424.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[1177].text |
好謝謝主席有請主次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].start |
4430.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].end |
4431 |
| transcript.whisperx[1178].text |
晚安早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].start |
4431.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].end |
4433.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1179].text |
次長早喔這個最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].start |
4433.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].end |
4435.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1180].text |
台灣教育界不平靜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].start |
4435.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].end |
4437.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1181].text |
發生一些憾事 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].start |
4437.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].end |
4439.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1182].text |
宜蘭有女老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].start |
4439.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].end |
4441.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1183].text |
被丟鉛筆盒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].start |
4441.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].end |
4443.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1184].text |
導致被刺傷流血 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].start |
4444.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].end |
4446.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1185].text |
那有國小女老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].start |
4446.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].end |
4448.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1186].text |
這個被惡意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].start |
4448.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].end |
4450.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1187].text |
這個做了傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].start |
4450.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].end |
4452.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1188].text |
那反而是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].start |
4452.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].end |
4454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1189].text |
被校事會議認定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].start |
4454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].end |
4456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1190].text |
老師傷害學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].start |
4456.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].end |
4458.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1191].text |
那因為他本能的把他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].start |
4458.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].end |
4460.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1192].text |
推開喔那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].start |
4460.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].end |
4462.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1193].text |
換來了一個身屆的處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].start |
4462.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].end |
4464.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1194].text |
那還有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].start |
4464.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].end |
4466.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1195].text |
老師被捉弄弄壞桌椅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].start |
4466.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].end |
4468.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1196].text |
失去重心換來一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].start |
4468.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].end |
4470.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1197].text |
慘衰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].start |
4470.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].end |
4472.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1198].text |
那還有最令人不捨跟遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].start |
4472.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].end |
4474.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1199].text |
還有罪魯聲望的訊息 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].start |
4475.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].end |
4477.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1200].text |
那根據中小學校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].start |
4477.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].end |
4479.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1201].text |
協會調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].start |
4479.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].end |
4481.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1202].text |
發現近兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].start |
4481.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].end |
4483.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1203].text |
共有八十九所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].start |
4483.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].end |
4485.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1204].text |
學校回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].start |
4485.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].end |
4487.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1205].text |
教師遭學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].start |
4487.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].end |
4489.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1206].text |
攻擊受傷的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].start |
4490.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].end |
4492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1207].text |
那部分教師出現恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].start |
4492.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].end |
4494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1208].text |
焦慮失眠喔這些都 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].start |
4494.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].end |
4496.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[1209].text |
可能只是冰山一角 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].start |
4496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].end |
4498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1210].text |
那其實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].start |
4498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].end |
4500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1211].text |
教育部如果自己不努力啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].start |
4500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].end |
4502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1212].text |
變成民間的媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].start |
4502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].end |
4504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1213].text |
比你們還認真喔這就不好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].start |
4504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].end |
4506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1214].text |
親子天下的雜誌今年進行調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].start |
4507.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].end |
4509.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[1215].text |
有沒有看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].start |
4508.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].end |
4510.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1216].text |
有沒有看過這個調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].start |
4510.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].end |
4512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1217].text |
沒看過我現在讓你看喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].start |
4512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].end |
4514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1218].text |
市長這個數字啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].start |
4514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].end |
4516.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1219].text |
台灣國中小教師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].start |
4516.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].end |
4518.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1220].text |
幸福感分數滿分100分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].start |
4518.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].end |
4520.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1221].text |
老師給的平均分數 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].start |
4520.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].end |
4522.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[1222].text |
六十分啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].start |
4522.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].end |
4524.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1223].text |
不及格 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].start |
4524.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].end |
4526.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1224].text |
學校要重視的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].start |
4526.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].end |
4528.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1225].text |
師生不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].start |
4528.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].end |
4530.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1226].text |
學生的考試要及格啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].start |
4530.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].end |
4532.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1227].text |
老師的幸福感滿意度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].start |
4532.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].end |
4534.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1228].text |
也應該要及格最慘的是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].start |
4534.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].end |
4536.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1229].text |
有高達六成的教師表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].start |
4536.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].end |
4538.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1230].text |
五年內想要離開教職 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].start |
4538.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].end |
4540.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1231].text |
還有五成的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].start |
4540.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].end |
4542.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1232].text |
表示啊如果有重新選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].start |
4542.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].end |
4544.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1233].text |
職業的機會絕對不願意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].start |
4544.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].end |
4546.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1234].text |
再投入教職啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].start |
4546.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].end |
4548.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1235].text |
市長這是一個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].start |
4548.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].end |
4550.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1236].text |
教育政策徹底 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].start |
4550.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].end |
4552.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1237].text |
失敗的重大警訊啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].start |
4552.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].end |
4554.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1238].text |
假設一家公司裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].start |
4554.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].end |
4556.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1239].text |
有六成的員工表示五年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].start |
4556.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].end |
4558.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1240].text |
想離職啊這個企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].start |
4558.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].end |
4560.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1241].text |
還經營得下去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].start |
4560.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].end |
4562.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1242].text |
這樣的企業有幸福嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].start |
4562.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].end |
4564.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1243].text |
那要提升幸福感 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].start |
4564.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].end |
4566.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1244].text |
我們教育部啊竟然逆向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].start |
4566.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].end |
4568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1245].text |
操作啊口口聲聲說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].start |
4568.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].end |
4570.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1246].text |
要行政減量結果呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].start |
4570.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].end |
4572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1247].text |
第一線的老師啊淪為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].start |
4572.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].end |
4574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1248].text |
教育部政令宣導的免洗塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].start |
4574.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].end |
4576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1249].text |
隨便哪個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].start |
4576.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].end |
4578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1250].text |
只要做政令宣導都可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].start |
4578.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].end |
4580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1251].text |
使用一紙公文發出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].start |
4580.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].end |
4582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1252].text |
老師就要向學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].start |
4582.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].end |
4584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1253].text |
向家長做宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].start |
4584.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].end |
4586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1254].text |
反毒交通安全性平交易 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].start |
4586.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].end |
4588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1255].text |
反詐騙衛生保健 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].start |
4588.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].end |
4590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1256].text |
這些政策我們都認同啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].start |
4590.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].end |
4592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1257].text |
啊但是這通常 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].start |
4592.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].end |
4594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1258].text |
每一個都造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].start |
4594.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].end |
4596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1259].text |
行政的增量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].start |
4596.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].end |
4598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1260].text |
教育部口口聲聲行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].start |
4598.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].end |
4600.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1261].text |
對外有沒有幫第一線老師們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].start |
4600.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].end |
4602.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1262].text |
拒絕過任何一項政令宣導的業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].start |
4602.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].end |
4604.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1263].text |
有嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].start |
4605.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].end |
4607.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1264].text |
各位報告我們從去年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].start |
4607.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].end |
4609.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1265].text |
也在檢討整個行政減量的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].start |
4609.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].end |
4611.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1266].text |
那個部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].start |
4611.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].end |
4613.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1267].text |
那我們現在講的都是今年還有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].start |
4613.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].end |
4615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1268].text |
沒有關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].start |
4615.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].end |
4617.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[1269].text |
其實教育部今年四月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].start |
4618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].end |
4620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1270].text |
又有一個大宣布啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].start |
4620.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].end |
4622.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[1271].text |
這個事情次長您知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].start |
4622.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].end |
4624.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1272].text |
各位報告這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].start |
4624.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].end |
4626.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1273].text |
我們了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].start |
4626.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].end |
4628.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1274].text |
但是他並不是由第一線的老師來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].start |
4628.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].end |
4630.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1275].text |
是由我們學校的學員能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].start |
4630.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].end |
4632.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1276].text |
你先讓我說完喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].start |
4632.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].end |
4634.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[1277].text |
這個你們清新毒品問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].start |
4635.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].end |
4637.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1278].text |
說要脫衣快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].start |
4637.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].end |
4639.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1279].text |
你說教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].start |
4639.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].end |
4641.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1280].text |
到底現在是誰來負責啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].start |
4641.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].end |
4643.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1281].text |
你就是不是第一線老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].start |
4643.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].end |
4645.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1282].text |
那你說是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].start |
4645.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].end |
4647.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1283].text |
我們目前針對毒品在校園內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].start |
4647.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].end |
4649.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1284].text |
本來就有料一篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].start |
4649.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].end |
4651.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1285].text |
這一塊那脫衣篩檢是多一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].start |
4651.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].end |
4653.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1286].text |
檢查的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].start |
4653.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].end |
4655.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1287].text |
到底是誰誰執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].start |
4655.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].end |
4657.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1288].text |
基本上都是由學校的深府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].start |
4657.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].end |
4659.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1289].text |
組長或是學安能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].start |
4659.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].end |
4661.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1290].text |
深府組長深府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].start |
4661.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].end |
4663.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1291].text |
組長是不是老師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].start |
4663.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].end |
4665.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1292].text |
所以很多是老師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].start |
4667.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].end |
4669.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1293].text |
再學校來講一般是老師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].start |
4669.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].end |
4671.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1294].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].start |
4671.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].end |
4673.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1295].text |
我們現在台灣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].start |
4673.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].end |
4675.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[1296].text |
變成一個文字遊戲的國度 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].start |
4676.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].end |
4678.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1297].text |
Energy不是Electricity |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].start |
4678.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].end |
4680.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1298].text |
深府組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].start |
4680.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].end |
4682.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1299].text |
不一定就是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].start |
4682.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].end |
4684.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1300].text |
我問了深府組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].start |
4684.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].end |
4686.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1301].text |
多數是老師兼任啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].start |
4686.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].end |
4688.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1302].text |
那脫衣篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].start |
4688.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].end |
4690.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1303].text |
到底誰負責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].start |
4690.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].end |
4692.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1304].text |
你說不是老師不是一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].start |
4692.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].end |
4694.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1305].text |
你說是深府組長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].start |
4694.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].end |
4696.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1306].text |
我問你深府組長是誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].start |
4696.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].end |
4698.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[1307].text |
老師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].start |
4698.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].end |
4700.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1308].text |
我們其實尊重專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].start |
4700.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].end |
4702.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1309].text |
但是我們也要尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].start |
4702.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].end |
4704.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1310].text |
一線老師我們所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].start |
4704.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].end |
4706.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1311].text |
教學人員的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].start |
4706.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].end |
4708.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1312].text |
我有說錯嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].start |
4708.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].end |
4710.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1313].text |
跟委員報告脫衣快篩跟料一塊篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].start |
4710.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].end |
4712.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1314].text |
都是篩檢不是疊加上去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].start |
4712.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].end |
4714.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1315].text |
任務第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].start |
4714.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].end |
4716.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1316].text |
深府組長他本來的職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].start |
4716.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].end |
4718.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1317].text |
大概就有這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].start |
4718.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].end |
4720.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1318].text |
在校園的一個反讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].start |
4720.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].end |
4722.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1319].text |
或推動工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].start |
4722.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].end |
4724.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1320].text |
但是並不是由第一線的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].start |
4724.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].end |
4726.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1321].text |
導師來執行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].start |
4726.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].end |
4728.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1322].text |
我們還要原來如此啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].start |
4728.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].end |
4730.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1323].text |
所以不是導師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].start |
4730.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].end |
4732.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1324].text |
就不是第一線老師這是教育部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].start |
4732.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].end |
4734.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1325].text |
官方定義嗎你現在要這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].start |
4734.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].end |
4736.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1326].text |
我並不是這麼說我是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].start |
4736.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].end |
4738.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1327].text |
是由深府組長這本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].start |
4738.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].end |
4740.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1328].text |
他的工作職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].start |
4740.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].end |
4742.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1329].text |
沒關係啦沒有去加重我們其他老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].start |
4742.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].end |
4744.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1330].text |
市長你很專業我們不要玩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].start |
4744.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].end |
4746.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1331].text |
文字遊戲回去您聽一下您自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].start |
4746.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].end |
4748.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1332].text |
的回答我想前線的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].start |
4748.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].end |
4750.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1333].text |
老師可能都會很狐疑啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].start |
4750.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].end |
4752.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1334].text |
沒關係你說這是他本來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].start |
4752.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].end |
4754.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1335].text |
職責來我們來請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].start |
4754.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].end |
4756.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[1336].text |
超級可怕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].start |
4756.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].end |
4758.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1337].text |
你們這樣的認知非常可怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].start |
4758.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].end |
4760.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1338].text |
校園內實施脫衣快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].start |
4760.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].end |
4762.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1339].text |
好你說脫衣篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].start |
4762.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].end |
4764.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1340].text |
跟尿衣篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].start |
4764.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].end |
4766.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1341].text |
本來就是要做的啊法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].start |
4766.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].end |
4768.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1342].text |
依序是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].start |
4767.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].end |
4769.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[1343].text |
教育部要不要守法法院依序是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].start |
4770.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].end |
4772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1344].text |
來請說市長請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].start |
4772.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].end |
4774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1345].text |
脫衣快篩的法院依序是來自於 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].start |
4774.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].end |
4776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1346].text |
毒防條例那脫衣快篩這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].start |
4776.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].end |
4778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1347].text |
目前我們是會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].start |
4778.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].end |
4780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1348].text |
先徵求學生跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].start |
4780.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].end |
4782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1349].text |
大家長的同意才會來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].start |
4782.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].end |
4784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1350].text |
實施好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].start |
4784.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].end |
4786.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[1351].text |
又改啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].start |
4785.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].end |
4787.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1352].text |
又改說法啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].start |
4787.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].end |
4789.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1353].text |
我們昨天才有大委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].start |
4789.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].end |
4791.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1354].text |
幾分鐘之內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].start |
4791.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].end |
4793.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1355].text |
從沒有退讓的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].start |
4793.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].end |
4795.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1356].text |
到立刻說好立刻退讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].start |
4796.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].end |
4798.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1357].text |
剛剛你才說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].start |
4798.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].end |
4800.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[1358].text |
尿衣脫衣本來就是要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].start |
4800.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].end |
4802.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1359].text |
這個可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].start |
4803.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].end |
4805.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1360].text |
一問有沒有法院依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].start |
4805.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].end |
4807.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1361].text |
你說可以啊結果咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].start |
4807.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].end |
4809.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1362].text |
再細問下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].start |
4809.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].end |
4811.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1363].text |
立刻改變說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].start |
4811.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].end |
4813.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1364].text |
法院依據就是不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].start |
4813.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].end |
4815.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1365].text |
採脫衣嘛你現在立刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].start |
4815.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].end |
4817.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1366].text |
又改說法了我們採的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].start |
4817.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].end |
4819.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1367].text |
經過他們的同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].start |
4819.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].end |
4821.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1368].text |
我就請教市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].start |
4821.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].end |
4823.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1369].text |
你要請每一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].start |
4823.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].end |
4825.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1370].text |
家長要請教同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].start |
4825.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].end |
4827.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1371].text |
你這些前線老師是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].start |
4827.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].end |
4829.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1372].text |
教書都不用教啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].start |
4829.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].end |
4831.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1373].text |
委員報告我們並不是做普篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].start |
4831.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].end |
4833.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1374].text |
我們是針對學校有列冊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].start |
4833.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].end |
4835.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1375].text |
特定人員才會去 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].start |
4835.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].end |
4837.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1376].text |
要求說做篩檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].start |
4837.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].end |
4839.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1377].text |
請問哪一個法院讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].start |
4839.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].end |
4841.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1378].text |
來挑學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].start |
4841.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].end |
4843.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1379].text |
哪一個法院讓你來挑學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].start |
4843.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].end |
4845.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1380].text |
葛如君同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].start |
4845.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].end |
4847.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[1381].text |
你下課來檢查一下脫衣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].start |
4849.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].end |
4851.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1382].text |
我是哪裡有問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].start |
4851.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].end |
4853.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1383].text |
所有的學生都在看著我啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].start |
4853.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].end |
4855.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1384].text |
我都在吐口水我是不是有吸毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].start |
4856.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].end |
4858.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1385].text |
是這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].start |
4858.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].end |
4860.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1386].text |
廖奕快篩是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].start |
4860.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].end |
4862.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1387].text |
毒防條例的法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].start |
4862.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].end |
4864.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1388].text |
對我就問你脫衣快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].start |
4864.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].end |
4866.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1389].text |
法院是什麼啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].start |
4866.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].end |
4868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1390].text |
要不要有法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].start |
4868.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].end |
4870.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1391].text |
當然要有法院所以我們目前是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].start |
4870.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].end |
4872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1392].text |
學生家長的同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].start |
4872.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].end |
4874.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1393].text |
法院在哪裡嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].start |
4874.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].end |
4876.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1394].text |
法院在哪裡你有同意就可以喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].start |
4876.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].end |
4878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1395].text |
那我請你同意了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].start |
4878.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].end |
4880.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[1396].text |
我可以抽你的血這樣是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].start |
4882.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].end |
4884.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1397].text |
我們如果你不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].start |
4884.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].end |
4886.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1398].text |
就直接扭斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].start |
4886.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].end |
4888.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1399].text |
這個部分是一個篩選的根據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].start |
4888.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].end |
4890.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1400].text |
法教務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].start |
4890.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].end |
4892.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1401].text |
教育部就是要守法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].start |
4893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].end |
4895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1402].text |
你教育部自己沒有優先來守法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].start |
4895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].end |
4897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1403].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].start |
4897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].end |
4899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1404].text |
法律程序完全沒有完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].start |
4899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].end |
4901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1405].text |
然後急著 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].start |
4901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].end |
4903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1406].text |
要九月毒品快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].start |
4903.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].end |
4905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1407].text |
我們絕對支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].start |
4905.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].end |
4907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1408].text |
去反毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].start |
4907.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].end |
4909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1409].text |
如果有好的法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].start |
4909.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].end |
4911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1410].text |
可以協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].start |
4911.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].end |
4913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1411].text |
校園安全的毒品什麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].start |
4913.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].end |
4915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1412].text |
的快篩我們也支持但是不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].start |
4915.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].end |
4917.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1413].text |
讓第一線老師來承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].start |
4917.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].end |
4919.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1414].text |
法律的風險啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].start |
4919.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].end |
4921.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1415].text |
對不對大法官 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].start |
4921.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].end |
4923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1416].text |
有解釋人格權身體權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].start |
4923.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].end |
4925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1417].text |
均受中華民國憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].start |
4925.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].end |
4927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1418].text |
第二十二條的保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].start |
4927.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].end |
4929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1419].text |
而且啊如果你們要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].start |
4929.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].end |
4931.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1420].text |
修改要點的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].start |
4931.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].end |
4933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1421].text |
之前有人問你們你們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].start |
4933.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].end |
4935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1422].text |
我們改個要點如果用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].start |
4935.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].end |
4937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1423].text |
要點就可以來侵害身體權 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].start |
4937.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].end |
4939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1424].text |
這就完全違反法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].start |
4939.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].end |
4941.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[1425].text |
保留的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].start |
4941.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].end |
4943.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1426].text |
剛剛我們質詢的過程啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].start |
4943.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].end |
4945.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1427].text |
聽得出一大堆的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].start |
4945.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].end |
4947.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1428].text |
請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].start |
4947.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].end |
4949.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1429].text |
好好地檢討一下不然這 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].start |
4949.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].end |
4951.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1430].text |
整個過程所有老師聽到你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].start |
4951.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].end |
4953.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1431].text |
這樣啊不要講六成五年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].start |
4953.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].end |
4955.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1432].text |
想離職啊可能變七成可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].start |
4955.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].end |
4957.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1433].text |
變八成啊本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].start |
4957.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].end |
4959.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1434].text |
具體要求教育部和法務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].start |
4959.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].end |
4961.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1435].text |
溝通必須讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].start |
4961.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].end |
4963.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1436].text |
毒品危害防治條例先 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].start |
4963.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].end |
4965.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1437].text |
修法通過法源完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].start |
4965.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].end |
4967.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1438].text |
以後再推動校園 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].start |
4967.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].end |
4969.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1439].text |
的拖曳篩檢不要讓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].start |
4969.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].end |
4971.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1440].text |
去承擔法律的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].start |
4971.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].end |
4973.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1441].text |
另外再推動修法的同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].start |
4973.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].end |
4975.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1442].text |
教育部也要和地方的教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].start |
4975.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].end |
4977.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1443].text |
來溝通研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].start |
4977.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].end |
4979.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1444].text |
補足校園的人力有必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].start |
4979.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].end |
4981.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1445].text |
徵聘學務人員來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].start |
4981.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].end |
4983.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1446].text |
校案的工作不要讓這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].start |
4983.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].end |
4985.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1447].text |
繁重的裁減的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].start |
4985.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].end |
4987.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1448].text |
規則不清法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].start |
4987.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].end |
4989.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1449].text |
不明還要全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].start |
4989.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].end |
4991.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1450].text |
落到老師的頭上請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].start |
4991.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].end |
4993.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1451].text |
可不可以當場承諾好我跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].start |
4993.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].end |
4995.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1452].text |
第一線的老師可以放心我跟完 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].start |
4995.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].end |
4997.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1453].text |
報告我從一開始就是強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].start |
4997.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].end |
4999.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1454].text |
這個不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].start |
4999.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].end |
5001.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1455].text |
拖曬或是尿液篩選 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].start |
5001.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].end |
5003.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1456].text |
都不會增加目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].start |
5003.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].end |
5005.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1457].text |
老師要他去執行這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].start |
5005.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].end |
5007.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1458].text |
由我們學校本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].start |
5007.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].end |
5009.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1459].text |
就在執行這個業務的申扶組 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].start |
5009.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].end |
5011.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1460].text |
或是校務學務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].start |
5011.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].end |
5013.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1461].text |
人員來進行我剛剛已經問您了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].start |
5013.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].end |
5015.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1462].text |
申扶組校務人員是不是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].start |
5015.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].end |
5017.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1463].text |
嘛他也說是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].start |
5017.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].end |
5019.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1464].text |
然後你又說不是老師來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].start |
5019.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].end |
5021.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1465].text |
是我是全國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].start |
5021.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].end |
5023.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1466].text |
學生家長聽您這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].start |
5023.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].end |
5025.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[1467].text |
講我到底有什麼考試啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].start |
5026.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].end |
5028.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1468].text |
我們不會增加其他老師的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].start |
5028.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].end |
5030.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1469].text |
第二個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].start |
5030.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].end |
5032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1470].text |
我們會只增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].start |
5032.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].end |
5034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1471].text |
被增加負擔的老師的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].start |
5034.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].end |
5036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1472].text |
不增加那些不會被 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].start |
5036.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].end |
5038.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1473].text |
增加負擔老師負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].start |
5039.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].end |
5041.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1474].text |
沒關係我讓您講完不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].start |
5041.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].end |
5043.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1475].text |
第二個我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].start |
5043.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].end |
5045.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1476].text |
操作之前一定會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].start |
5045.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].end |
5047.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1477].text |
現場執行的人員有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].start |
5047.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].end |
5049.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1478].text |
足夠的指引第三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].start |
5049.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].end |
5051.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1479].text |
不是普篩他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].start |
5051.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].end |
5053.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1480].text |
針對特定人員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].start |
5053.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].end |
5055.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1481].text |
一個學生才做 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].start |
5055.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].end |
5057.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[1482].text |
你知道這三點你漏講哪一個嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].start |
5058 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].end |
5060 |
| transcript.whisperx[1483].text |
要不要手法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].start |
5059.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].end |
5061.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1484].text |
要不要有法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].start |
5061.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].end |
5063.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1485].text |
要還是不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].start |
5063.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].end |
5065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1486].text |
在尿塞的部分已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].start |
5065.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].end |
5067.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1487].text |
我們今天一直 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].start |
5067.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].end |
5069.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1488].text |
我從頭到尾都在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].start |
5069.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].end |
5071.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1489].text |
家長跟學生同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].start |
5071.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].end |
5073.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1490].text |
我從頭到尾在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].start |
5073.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].end |
5075.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1491].text |
脫塞需不需要法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].start |
5075.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].end |
5077.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1492].text |
我們當然需要法源依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].start |
5077.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].end |
5079.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1493].text |
所以才會說需要家長跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].start |
5079.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].end |
5081.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1494].text |
學生同意可以操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].start |
5081.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].end |
5083.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1495].text |
我們請具體承諾可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].start |
5083.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].end |
5085.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1496].text |
我們會跟法務部針對法律的問題進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].start |
5085.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].end |
5087.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1497].text |
我爭取一點時間喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].start |
5087.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].end |
5089.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1498].text |
這個AI的方舟計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].start |
5089.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].end |
5091.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1499].text |
你們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].start |
5091.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].end |
5093.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1500].text |
之前被我們抓包 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].start |
5093.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].end |
5095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1501].text |
根本還沒通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].start |
5095.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].end |
5097.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1502].text |
大打廣告直接上雜誌 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].start |
5097.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].end |
5099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1503].text |
我們所知鎖不到結果反而 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].start |
5099.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].end |
5101.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1504].text |
雜誌上面八頁的報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].start |
5101.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].end |
5103.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1505].text |
然後我們看到5月22號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].start |
5103.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].end |
5105.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1506].text |
卓院長跟你們一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].start |
5105.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].end |
5107.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1507].text |
推了這個什麼催動人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].start |
5107.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].end |
5109.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1508].text |
計畫6月3號 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].start |
5109.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].end |
5111.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1509].text |
行政院網站正式公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].start |
5111.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].end |
5113.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1510].text |
AI人才方舟計畫我們很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].start |
5113.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].end |
5115.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1511].text |
想說已經拍板定案了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].start |
5115.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].end |
5117.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1512].text |
我們馬上再次所知要了解細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].start |
5117.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].end |
5119.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1513].text |
結果教育部跟我們答覆說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].start |
5119.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].end |
5121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1514].text |
行政院是原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].start |
5121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].end |
5123.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1515].text |
核定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].start |
5123.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].end |
5125.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1516].text |
整個計畫大幅要修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].start |
5125.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].end |
5127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1517].text |
完全沒有計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].start |
5127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].end |
5129.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1518].text |
的完整內容可以提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].start |
5129.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].end |
5131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1519].text |
哇 事情發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].start |
5131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].end |
5133.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[1520].text |
至此啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].start |
5133.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].end |
5135.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1521].text |
本來啊我們還想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].start |
5135.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].end |
5137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1522].text |
哇 這個是什麼很像詐騙集團的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].start |
5137.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].end |
5139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1523].text |
哇 現在詐騙 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].start |
5139.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].end |
5141.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1524].text |
真的本來只是詐騙者 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].start |
5141.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].end |
5143.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1525].text |
現在變詐騙的集團了喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].start |
5143.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].end |
5145.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1526].text |
這變成是一整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].start |
5145.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].end |
5147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1527].text |
團隊啊 欸恭喜 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].start |
5147.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].end |
5149.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[1528].text |
您中獎了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].start |
5149.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].end |
5151.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1529].text |
什麼時候領獎 不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].start |
5151.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].end |
5153.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1530].text |
啊中多少 不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].start |
5153.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].end |
5155.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1531].text |
先跟你說一百多億啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].start |
5155.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].end |
5157.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1532].text |
啊之後再說細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].start |
5157.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].end |
5159.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1533].text |
有這種的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].start |
5159.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].end |
5161.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1534].text |
我真的想喔 這樣子的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].start |
5161.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].end |
5163.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1535].text |
讓人很擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].start |
5163.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].end |
5165.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1536].text |
所以我具體請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].start |
5165.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].end |
5167.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1537].text |
到底什麼時候能完成所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].start |
5167.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].end |
5169.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1538].text |
大幅修正 什麼時候能上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].start |
5169.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].end |
5171.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1539].text |
廣告都做了 來請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].start |
5171.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].end |
5173.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1540].text |
官文報告行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].start |
5173.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].end |
5177.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[1541].text |
已經同意我們AI人才方舟計畫了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].start |
5180.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].end |
5182.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1542].text |
完整細節 沒給啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].start |
5183.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].end |
5185.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[1543].text |
多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].start |
5184.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].end |
5186.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1544].text |
什麼時候執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].start |
5186.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].end |
5188.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1545].text |
而且那個副長說明我們核定的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].start |
5188.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].end |
5190.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1546].text |
我時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].start |
5190.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].end |
5192.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1547].text |
什麼時候執行多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].start |
5192.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].end |
5194.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1548].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].start |
5194.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].end |
5196.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1549].text |
那目前是核定從今年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].start |
5196.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].end |
5198.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1550].text |
累計四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].start |
5198.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].end |
5200.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1551].text |
四年總共編定了117億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].start |
5200.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].end |
5202.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1552].text |
會不會改 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].start |
5202.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].end |
5204.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1553].text |
我們問了你們不敢講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].start |
5204.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].end |
5206.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1554].text |
不會跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].start |
5206.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].end |
5208.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1555].text |
執行什麼時候執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].start |
5208.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].end |
5210.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1556].text |
從現在就開始執行往後的四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].start |
5210.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].end |
5212.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1557].text |
現在已經在執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].start |
5212.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].end |
5214.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1558].text |
完全機關的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].start |
5214.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].end |
5216.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1559].text |
可以提供給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].start |
5216.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].end |
5218.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1560].text |
又來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].start |
5218.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].end |
5220.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1561].text |
我們絲索之都不能提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].start |
5220.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].end |
5222.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1562].text |
到這裡突然又都可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].start |
5222.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].end |
5224.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1563].text |
到底是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].start |
5224.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].end |
5226.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1564].text |
跟詐騙集團 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].start |
5226.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].end |
5228.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1565].text |
被抓包了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].start |
5228.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].end |
5230.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1566].text |
我可以給你錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].start |
5230.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].end |
5232.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1567].text |
不要這樣好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].start |
5232.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].end |
5234.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1568].text |
該提供的資訊提供清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].start |
5234.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].end |
5236.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[1569].text |
相關的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].start |
5235.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].end |
5237.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1570].text |
趕快提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].start |
5237.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].end |
5239.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1571].text |
提供給委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].start |
5239.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].end |
5241.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1572].text |
對不起主席我再爭取一點點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].start |
5241.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].end |
5243.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1573].text |
這個AI的公司協力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].start |
5243.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].end |
5245.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1574].text |
全世界都在拼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].start |
5245.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].end |
5247.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1575].text |
這個怎麼樣去結合 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].start |
5247.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].end |
5249.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1576].text |
這個公司協力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].start |
5249.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].end |
5251.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1577].text |
來提供學生更多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].start |
5251.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].end |
5253.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1578].text |
AI的能量 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].start |
5253.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].end |
5255.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1579].text |
一個月內書面提供給本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].start |
5255.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].end |
5257.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1580].text |
相關資訊我們也會提供給你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].start |
5257.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].end |
5259.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1581].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].start |
5259.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].end |
5261.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1582].text |
本席也整理了一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].start |
5261.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].end |
5263.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1583].text |
為經濟弱勢的學生要來爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].start |
5263.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].end |
5265.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1584].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].start |
5265.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].end |
5267.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1585].text |
因為他們現在真的沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].start |
5267.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].end |
5269.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1586].text |
學費、貸款、網路費、貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].start |
5269.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].end |
5271.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1587].text |
他們沒有錢去付AI的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].start |
5273.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].end |
5275.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1588].text |
免費學生方案有期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].start |
5275.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].end |
5277.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1589].text |
校園授權軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].start |
5277.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].end |
5279.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1590].text |
目前沒有付費公版的AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].start |
5279.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].end |
5281.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1591].text |
那有學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].start |
5281.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].end |
5283.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1592].text |
已經先領頭了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].start |
5283.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].end |
5285.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1593].text |
長庚大學做得很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].start |
5285.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].end |
5287.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1594].text |
1000個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].start |
5287.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].end |
5289.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1595].text |
有特定品牌的付費AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].start |
5289.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].end |
5291.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1596].text |
可以用兩個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].start |
5291.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].end |
5293.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1597].text |
其實也沒有編列補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].start |
5293.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].end |
5295.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1598].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].start |
5295.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].end |
5297.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1599].text |
也希望這個次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].start |
5297.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].end |
5299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1600].text |
站在AI平權的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].start |
5299.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].end |
5301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1601].text |
我們一起來推動兩個業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].start |
5301.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].end |
5303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1602].text |
就是說第一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].start |
5303.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].end |
5305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1603].text |
研議經濟弱勢的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].start |
5305.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].end |
5307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1604].text |
我們來做AI的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].start |
5307.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].end |
5309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1605].text |
不要讓他們的吃飯錢、便當錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].start |
5309.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].end |
5311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1606].text |
來用AI、買AI的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].start |
5311.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].end |
5313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1607].text |
那也研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].start |
5313.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].end |
5315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1608].text |
就是說這個大學的系所 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].start |
5315.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].end |
5317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1609].text |
進行AI工具的付費AI工具的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].start |
5317.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].end |
5319.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1610].text |
因為以前我們有版權軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].start |
5319.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].end |
5321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1611].text |
那教育部的AI或版權的AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].start |
5321.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].end |
5323.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1612].text |
這個來補助系所加強資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].start |
5323.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].end |
5325.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1613].text |
我剛剛是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].start |
5325.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].end |
5327.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1614].text |
希望真的要注重學生的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].start |
5327.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].end |
5329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1615].text |
那所以真的很投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].start |
5329.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].end |
5331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1616].text |
也請見諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].start |
5331.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].end |
5333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1617].text |
那教育部我還是要感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].start |
5333.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].end |
5335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1618].text |
你們管管有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].start |
5335.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].end |
5337.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1619].text |
然後這個也說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].start |
5337.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].end |
5339.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1620].text |
我們也聽到高教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].start |
5339.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].end |
5341.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1621].text |
有說新一年度的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].start |
5341.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].end |
5343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1622].text |
會編列大學的付費AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].start |
5343.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].end |
5345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1623].text |
所以這個我們也一直爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].start |
5345.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].end |
5347.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1624].text |
謝謝你們的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].start |
5347.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].end |
5349.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1625].text |
要變成大學的管管有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].start |
5349.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].end |
5351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1626].text |
大學的圖書館也要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].start |
5351.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].end |
5353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1627].text |
變成系系有AI、系管也有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].start |
5353.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].end |
5355.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1628].text |
變成師生人人有AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].start |
5355.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].end |
5357.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1629].text |
好不好,我們一起往這裡前進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].start |
5357.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].end |
5359.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1630].text |
最後我想對昨天運動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].start |
5359.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].end |
5361.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1631].text |
尋訪的內容做一個澄清 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].start |
5361.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].end |
5363.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1632].text |
昨天我轉述林怡錦委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].start |
5363.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].end |
5365.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1633].text |
她引用運動部的報告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].start |
5365.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].end |
5367.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1634].text |
制定前瞻性的法規命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].start |
5367.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].end |
5369.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1635].text |
來策略做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].start |
5369.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].end |
5371.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1636].text |
我當下在台下聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].start |
5371.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].end |
5373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1637].text |
把這句話解讀成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].start |
5373.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].end |
5375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1638].text |
是制定前瞻性的法規命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].start |
5375.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].end |
5377.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1639].text |
就是電競基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].start |
5377.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].end |
5379.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1640].text |
而策略做法就是行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].start |
5379.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].end |
5381.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1641].text |
所以我把這段話解讀為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].start |
5381.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].end |
5383.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1642].text |
沒有法律,部會就沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].start |
5383.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].end |
5385.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1643].text |
採取行政作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].start |
5385.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].end |
5387.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1644].text |
事後發現我和林怡錦委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].start |
5387.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].end |
5389.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1645].text |
是對於運動部報告的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].start |
5389.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].end |
5391.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1646].text |
有點各自解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].start |
5391.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].end |
5393.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1647].text |
林怡錦委員確實沒有表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].start |
5393.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].end |
5395.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1648].text |
沒有法律就無法行政的意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].start |
5395.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].end |
5397.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1649].text |
我要在此對大家表示歉意 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].start |
5397.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].end |
5399.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1650].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].start |
5398.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].end |
5400.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[1651].text |
謝謝市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].start |
5400.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].end |
5402.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[1652].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].start |
5402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].end |
5404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[1653].text |
麻煩市長有關方舟計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].start |
5406.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].end |
5408.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[1654].text |
相關的計畫內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].start |
5408.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].end |
5410.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[1655].text |
最後交給所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].start |
5412.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].end |
5414.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[1656].text |
完整的內容請交付所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].start |
5416.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].end |
5418.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[1657].text |
交給委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].start |
5418.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].end |
5420.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1658].text |
有關於公司協力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].start |
5420.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].end |
5422.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[1659].text |
相關的一些計畫籌備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].start |
5424.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].end |
5426.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1660].text |
剛剛委員有提到一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].start |
5426.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].end |
5428.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1661].text |
是否也可以一個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].start |
5428.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].end |
5430.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[1662].text |
彙整相關公司協力的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].start |
5435.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].end |
5437.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1663].text |
合作提供相關的AI |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].start |
5437.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].end |
5439.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1664].text |
給我們的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].start |
5439.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].end |
5441.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1665].text |
的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].start |
5441.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].end |
5443.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[1666].text |
是不是一個月內相關做一個測備 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].start |
5446.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].end |
5448.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1667].text |
也是一個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].start |
5448.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].end |
5450.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1668].text |
麻煩謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].start |
5457.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].end |
5459.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[1669].text |
下一位陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].start |
5462.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].end |
5464.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1670].text |
不好意思我們在郭育芹委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].start |
5464.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].end |
5466.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1671].text |
發言完畢以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].start |
5466.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].end |
5468.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[1672].text |
休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].start |
5470.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].end |
5472.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1673].text |
謝謝主席請助次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].start |
5473.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].end |
5475.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[1674].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].start |
5477.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].end |
5479.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[1675].text |
委員早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].start |
5478.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].end |
5480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1676].text |
次長早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].start |
5480.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].end |
5482.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1677].text |
教育部現行已經推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].start |
5482.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].end |
5484.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1678].text |
許多助學的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].start |
5484.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].end |
5486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1679].text |
包含學雜費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].start |
5486.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].end |
5488.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1680].text |
拉進公司立學校學雜費 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].start |
5488.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].end |
5490.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1681].text |
差距方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].start |
5490.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].end |
5492.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1682].text |
大專校園落實學生助學計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].start |
5492.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].end |
5494.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1683].text |
以及就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].start |
5494.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].end |
5496.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1684].text |
總編列的預算高達238.15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].start |
5496.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].end |
5498.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1685].text |
所有助學措施涵蓋率 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].start |
5498.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].end |
5500.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1686].text |
大概有52% |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].start |
5500.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].end |
5502.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1687].text |
教育部辦理這些助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].start |
5502.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].end |
5504.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1688].text |
目前也是以修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].start |
5504.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].end |
5506.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1689].text |
辦法的方式來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].start |
5506.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].end |
5508.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1690].text |
就是說以辦法的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].start |
5508.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].end |
5510.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1691].text |
是比較能夠及時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].start |
5510.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].end |
5512.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1692].text |
因應學生的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].start |
5512.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].end |
5514.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1693].text |
當我們的學生受到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].start |
5514.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].end |
5516.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1694].text |
大環境的變化家庭因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].start |
5516.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].end |
5518.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1695].text |
或是影響學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].start |
5518.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].end |
5520.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1696].text |
就學的事件的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].start |
5520.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].end |
5522.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1697].text |
教育部就能夠因應不同的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].start |
5522.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].end |
5524.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1698].text |
訂定這個助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].start |
5524.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].end |
5526.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1699].text |
來台性的因應各種情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].start |
5526.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].end |
5528.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1700].text |
因此本席提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].start |
5528.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].end |
5530.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1701].text |
增進政府因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].start |
5530.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].end |
5532.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1702].text |
學生家庭所得或其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].start |
5532.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].end |
5534.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1703].text |
突發經濟不利情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].start |
5534.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].end |
5536.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1704].text |
中經濟不利處境學生助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].start |
5536.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].end |
5538.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1705].text |
這樣一個概括性的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].start |
5538.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].end |
5540.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1706].text |
詳細遵循的事項辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].start |
5540.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].end |
5542.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1707].text |
就授權給教育部來訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].start |
5542.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].end |
5544.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1708].text |
那次長你覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].start |
5544.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].end |
5546.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1709].text |
這樣的修法內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].start |
5546.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].end |
5548.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1710].text |
是不是對於教育部推動助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].start |
5548.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].end |
5550.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1711].text |
是比較有利比較有彈性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].start |
5550.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].end |
5552.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1712].text |
是謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].start |
5552.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].end |
5554.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1713].text |
確實在目前的助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].start |
5554.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].end |
5556.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1714].text |
像以就代的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].start |
5556.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].end |
5558.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1715].text |
本來在大學法就有個授權的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].start |
5558.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].end |
5560.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1716].text |
所以教育部以往針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].start |
5560.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].end |
5562.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1717].text |
就代的一些經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].start |
5562.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].end |
5564.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1718].text |
生態的資格寬限期的長短 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].start |
5564.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].end |
5566.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1719].text |
甚至我們提供畢業後 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].start |
5566.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].end |
5568.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1720].text |
如果你的月薪沒有達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].start |
5568.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].end |
5570.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1721].text |
五萬塊你還可以申請 |
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先還繳本息都不用負擔 |
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這個部分從民國95年 |
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到115年 |
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是20年我們已經從3萬 |
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一路放到5萬甚至以後你多生個小朋友 |
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你大概可以多你的月薪 |
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6萬兩個就7萬 |
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所以這個部分都不用修法 |
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再授權辦法就可以做 |
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所以是授權的授權辦法 |
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所以教育部以往的各種不同發生的狀況 |
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隨時來做調整 |
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它是比較彈性的 |
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所以說以學代目前來講 |
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其實教育部能夠為學生做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1737].start |
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為學生設想的 |
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剛剛我講了這個涵蓋的雨天來到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1739].start |
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52%我想教育部這邊 |
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也陸續的在就各種 |
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方面各種面向滾動的檢討 |
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也希望說提供給我們 |
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學生更多 |
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更有力更全面的協助 |
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是嗎是沒有錯 |
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謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1747].start |
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5622.26 |
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接下來我想要針對近期發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1748].start |
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教師的壓力事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1749].start |
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有基層教師罪的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1750].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1750].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1750].text |
漢市來關心教學現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[1751].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1751].end |
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老師的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1752].end |
5632.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1752].text |
根據教育部校安通報中 |
| transcript.whisperx[1753].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1753].end |
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師長與學生衝突事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1754].start |
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這些衝突事件裡面的行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1755].start |
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是學生這個統計數字來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[1756].start |
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113年有297件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1757].start |
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5642.26 |
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114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].start |
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5644.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1758].text |
有477件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1759].start |
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但是115年到4月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1760].start |
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已經通報了200件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1761].start |
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等於一個月就有50件 |
| transcript.whisperx[1762].start |
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那師生衝突也就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1763].end |
5654.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1763].text |
教學現場是老師要面臨一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1764].start |
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很大的壓力之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].start |
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5658.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1765].text |
接下來老師的壓力跟困境要如何緩解 |
| transcript.whisperx[1766].start |
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本席覺得說這現在是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1767].start |
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目前要很積極處理的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[1768].start |
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那很多團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[1769].start |
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以及在野黨立委直指說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1770].start |
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校事會議是主因啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[1771].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1771].text |
即便說教育部現在有透過分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[1772].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1772].end |
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反而濫述這樣來踩煞車 |
| transcript.whisperx[1773].start |
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但是其中針對就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1774].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1774].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1774].text |
專業尊嚴受損或是防疫性教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[1775].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1775].end |
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這樣的影響是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1776].end |
5680.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1776].text |
一直就都存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1777].end |
5682.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1777].text |
那重視青師之間的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1778].end |
5684.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1778].text |
這個已經被摧毀 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1779].end |
5686.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1779].text |
這個信任感 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1780].end |
5688.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1780].text |
我們該如何去重建它 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1781].end |
5690.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1781].text |
我想這個需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1782].end |
5692.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1782].text |
很長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1783].end |
5694.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1783].text |
那如何讓制度回歸當初我們2020 |
| transcript.whisperx[1784].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1784].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1784].text |
推出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1785].end |
5698.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1785].text |
教師會議這個的原意就是為了要建立 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1786].end |
5700.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1786].text |
客觀制度化的這樣一個管道 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1787].end |
5702.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1787].text |
來踩除不適任的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1788].end |
5704.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1788].text |
那這就是我們在教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].start |
5704.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].end |
5706.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1789].text |
的新生就學的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1790].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1790].end |
5708.26 |
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那但是到今天這樣的狀況了 |
| transcript.whisperx[1791].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1791].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1791].text |
我覺得教育部應該有更積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1792].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1792].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1792].text |
作為喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1793].end |
5714.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1793].text |
但是這個同時我們必須要一起來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[1794].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1794].end |
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關心就是兒少的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1795].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1795].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1795].text |
根據媒體報導呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1796].end |
5720.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1796].text |
2025年高中以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1797].end |
5722.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1797].text |
親生的兒少 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1798].end |
5724.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1798].text |
創19年來的新高 |
| transcript.whisperx[1799].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1799].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1799].text |
自殺死亡人數來到60人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1800].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1800].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1800].text |
除了學習的壓力呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].start |
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5730.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1801].text |
其實兒少還面臨多種的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1802].start |
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那在這種情況下學校就變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[1803].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1803].end |
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像是一個壓力國 |
| transcript.whisperx[1804].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1804].end |
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可能學校這樣的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1805].end |
5738.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1805].text |
變成說不管是老師或是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1806].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1806].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[1806].text |
他每天想到去學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[1807].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1807].end |
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都是一件局部為堅 |
| transcript.whisperx[1808].start |
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就是很困難的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[1809].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1809].text |
加上目前喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1810].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1810].text |
親師生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1811].end |
5750.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1811].text |
之間這種高度的緊張的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].start |
5750.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].end |
5752.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1812].text |
互動關係我想發生的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].start |
5752.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].end |
5754.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1813].text |
會越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1814].end |
5756.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1814].text |
那其中本席在預算審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].start |
5756.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].end |
5758.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1815].text |
有提到說越來越多孩子會透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].start |
5758.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].end |
5760.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1816].text |
或者是AI聊天 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1817].end |
5762.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1817].text |
來紓解心中的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].start |
5762.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].end |
5764.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1818].text |
或是說他不知道去跟誰求助的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1819].end |
5766.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1819].text |
他跟線上AI的系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].start |
5766.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].end |
5768.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1820].text |
來求助 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1821].end |
5770.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1821].text |
但是國外也確實是發生說 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].start |
5770.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].end |
5772.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1822].text |
有生成是AI引導使用者自殺症的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].start |
5772.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].end |
5774.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1823].text |
但是目前我們並沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].start |
5774.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].end |
5776.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1824].text |
有相關應對的這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1825].end |
5778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1825].text |
這也是我們要去特別的關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].start |
5778.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].end |
5780.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1826].text |
那不快樂的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].start |
5780.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].end |
5782.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1827].text |
就不會教出快樂的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].start |
5782.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].end |
5784.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1828].text |
這是必然的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].start |
5784.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].end |
5786.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1829].text |
因此來教學現場老師面臨很多的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1830].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[1830].end |
5788.26 |
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例如剛才很多委員有提到過的 |
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政策執行的壓力 |
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或者說是第一線學生衝突的情緒 |
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還有繁重的行政 |
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業務的工作 |
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那如果教育部提出的方法 |
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跟配套沒有有效的緩解 |
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教學現場老師的壓力跟困境 |
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其實我們很難阻止 |
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這樣的悍事再發生 |
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那同時我再來 |
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我們從針對不同的 |
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世代價值觀的衝突來討論的話 |
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前些日子 |
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世新大學校長在畢業典禮上 |
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所說的這個 |
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如果你的時間你的情緒 |
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你的身體沒有管理好 |
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那你就趕快結束自己 |
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其實這樣的言論不僅是登上了 |
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這個脫口秀引起討論 |
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也引起了就是 |
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相關價值觀衝突 |
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這樣的很熱烈的討論 |
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就連輝達執行長黃澄勛 |
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就說亞洲父母養大的孩子 |
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這輩子都得看心理醫生 |
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次長您覺得說 |
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以像這樣子所討論的這些狀況 |
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您的想法呢 |
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是 |
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跟我們報告確實一個 |
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合理的管教權 |
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怎麼讓老師不會覺得 |
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沒有尊嚴或無力感 |
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但是也要同時避免讓學生 |
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陷於恐懼或受到傷害 |
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這中間拿捏本來就很不容易 |
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所以這塊陳主委講的 |
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這是需要一個長期的 |
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親師生的信任關係的建立 |
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這也是教育部一直以來在努力的 |
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空間包含我們提到的 |
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事前的減量 |
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行政的減量 |
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第二個部分是有一個合理的 |
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在執行管教權的一些阻卻的 |
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是有我們剛才提到如果老師是為了 |
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因應教室現場 |
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一些失控違法不法的行為 |
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老師是該 |
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必要的時候是可以採取一些詳細的 |
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方法來進行 |
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不會造成 |
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阻卻一些違法這是一該 |
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做的那最後是委員這邊特別提到 |
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給老師激勵 |
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跟支持的一個環境 |
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這也是個重點所以這個部分 |
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是我們持續在努力 |
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在精進的地方 |
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除了說剛才次長您所回答的部分 |
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不管是在行政上教學上 |
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或是直接第一線的是面臨 |
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學生的情緒上 |
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為什麼我還提到說 |
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老師的壓力兒少的壓力 |
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或者是說社會不同世代 |
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價值觀這個部分 |
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因為老師現在要承受的他 |
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他不只是本身自己的工作上 |
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那其實情緒這是 |
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一個互動這是一個互相 |
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的一個互動就是 |
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老師的情緒會影響到孩子同時 |
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學生的情緒 |
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也會影響到老師 |
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我們現在的孩子他 |
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面對的一些 |
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衝擊面對的事件其實比 |
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我們那時候成長的時候所要面對 |
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還要更多所以 |
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這樣的壓力加速在孩子身上你 |
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是不是也會覺得說我們的孩子 |
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需要有很強大的心理素質 |
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來面對這些是 |
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沒錯好那麼 |
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這樣子所有的總規 |
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不管是教師的心理壓力 |
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兒少的心理壓力還有不同 |
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的世代價值觀衝突的這樣的 |
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壓力加到我們的孩子身上 |
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加到老師身上的時候 |
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我們期待我們的孩子可以及早 |
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辨認自身的情緒以及 |
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同理他人所以我們會有一個 |
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社會情緒學習SEL |
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這樣的課程那其實 |
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在過去的教育我們是缺了這一塊 |
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所以到現在 |
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我們來重視我們的 |
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兒少就是我們的學生的同時 |
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我要請問次長我們的 |
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師長是不是也應該 |
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導入這樣的學習非常 |
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同意有快樂的老師才有 |
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快樂的學生怎麼讓 |
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老師能夠透過SEL來 |
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覺察管理然後重塑 |
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一些跟親師之間 |
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| transcript.whisperx[1940].end |
6008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1940].text |
的關係為什麼這非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].start |
6008.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].end |
6010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1941].text |
其實我們要教導我們的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].start |
6010.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].end |
6012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1942].text |
的同時其實我們的老師當他承受 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].start |
6012.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].end |
6014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1943].text |
這樣子不同的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].start |
6014.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].end |
6016.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1944].text |
多面向的壓力的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].start |
6016.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].end |
6018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1945].text |
我們也要讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].start |
6018.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].end |
6020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1946].text |
老師有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].start |
6020.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].end |
6022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1947].text |
一個學習跟成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].start |
6022.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].end |
6024.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1948].text |
以及對自我內心壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].start |
6024.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].end |
6026.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1949].text |
的一個紓解那我想這一 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].start |
6026.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].end |
6028.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1950].text |
塊我希望說教育部你們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].start |
6028.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].end |
6030.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1951].text |
很正式而且是有一個正向 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].start |
6030.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].end |
6032.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1952].text |
的積極的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].start |
6032.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].end |
6034.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1953].text |
針對這個部分我是不是可以要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].start |
6034.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].end |
6036.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1954].text |
你們盡快的對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].start |
6036.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].end |
6038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1955].text |
這一個方面你們有所規劃的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].start |
6038.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].end |
6040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1956].text |
是不是可以給我一份你們的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].start |
6040.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].end |
6042.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1957].text |
好那委員是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].start |
6042.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].end |
6044.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1958].text |
給我們三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].start |
6044.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].end |
6046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1959].text |
的時間我們有一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].start |
6046.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].end |
6048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1960].text |
好我們兩個月時間有一個比較完整的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].start |
6048.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].end |
6050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1961].text |
檢討跟未來的進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].start |
6050.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].end |
6052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1962].text |
作為跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].start |
6052.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].end |
6054.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1963].text |
好謝謝次長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].start |
6054.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].end |
6056.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[1964].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].start |
6056.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].end |
6058.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[1965].text |
請坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].start |
6062.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].end |
6064.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[1966].text |
下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].start |
6063.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].end |
6065.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[1967].text |
有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].start |
6065.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].end |
6067.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[1968].text |
各位親愛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].start |
6078.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].end |
6080.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1969].text |
謝謝主席有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].start |
6080.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].end |
6082.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[1970].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].start |
6086.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].end |
6088.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[1971].text |
晚安早 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].start |
6087.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].end |
6089.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1972].text |
好次長早安 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].start |
6089.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].end |
6091.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1973].text |
我想這個現行的助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].start |
6091.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].end |
6093.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1974].text |
其實我們已經有涵蓋了剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].start |
6093.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].end |
6095.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1975].text |
秀寶委員有特別提到將近 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].start |
6095.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].end |
6097.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1976].text |
百分之五十二那 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].start |
6097.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].end |
6099.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1977].text |
這其中大概可以受益 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].start |
6099.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].end |
6101.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1978].text |
超過這個五十多萬的一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].start |
6101.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].end |
6103.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1979].text |
那當然近期其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].start |
6103.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].end |
6105.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1980].text |
也看到了就是我們的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].start |
6105.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].end |
6107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1981].text |
推出這個台灣人口對策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].start |
6107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].end |
6109.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1982].text |
新戰略那同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].start |
6109.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].end |
6111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1983].text |
在學生學代的一個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].start |
6111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].end |
6113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1984].text |
利息也調降到百分之 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].start |
6113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].end |
6115.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1985].text |
零點七七五那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].start |
6115.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].end |
6117.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1986].text |
我們也把這個快遷期主動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].start |
6117.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].end |
6119.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1987].text |
延長到了兩年喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].start |
6119.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].end |
6121.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1988].text |
預計受惠的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].start |
6121.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].end |
6123.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1989].text |
可能會超過六十萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].start |
6123.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].end |
6125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1990].text |
這個數據應該是沒有錯的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].start |
6125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].end |
6127.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1991].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].start |
6127.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].end |
6129.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1992].text |
那我想這個也證明了其實我們不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].start |
6129.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].end |
6131.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1993].text |
等到修法修到天荒地老 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].start |
6131.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].end |
6133.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1994].text |
其實我們隨時就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].start |
6133.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].end |
6135.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1995].text |
因應現在的助學的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].start |
6135.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].end |
6137.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1996].text |
來做一個進行滾動式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].start |
6137.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].end |
6139.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1997].text |
這樣子的一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].start |
6139.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].end |
6141.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1998].text |
那我想這樣子是馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].start |
6141.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].end |
6143.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1999].text |
就可以來解決就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].start |
6143.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].end |
6145.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2000].text |
需要的學生他們的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].start |
6145.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].end |
6147.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2001].text |
關於這個學費的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].start |
6147.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].end |
6149.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2002].text |
上面的一個這樣子的一個負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].start |
6149.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].end |
6151.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2003].text |
那在這裡其實我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].start |
6151.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].end |
6153.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2004].text |
要強調一下其實我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].start |
6153.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].end |
6155.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2005].text |
執政黨的委員我們都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].start |
6155.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].end |
6157.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2006].text |
提我們各自的一個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].start |
6157.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].end |
6159.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2007].text |
但是非常的遺憾這個在野黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].start |
6159.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].end |
6161.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2008].text |
他們不復議我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].start |
6161.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].end |
6163.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2009].text |
這個同意書啦所以導致我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].start |
6163.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].end |
6165.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2010].text |
這個版本其實是沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].start |
6165.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].end |
6167.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2011].text |
今天一起來並按做進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].start |
6167.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].end |
6169.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2012].text |
這樣的一個討論在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].start |
6169.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].end |
6171.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2013].text |
小小的抗議一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].start |
6171.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].end |
6173.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2014].text |
但是我也要提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].start |
6173.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].end |
6175.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2015].text |
就是我們的這個委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].start |
6175.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].end |
6177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2016].text |
有很多的修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].start |
6177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].end |
6179.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2017].text |
那其實目標都非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].start |
6179.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].end |
6181.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2018].text |
也非常的一個務實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].start |
6181.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].end |
6183.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2019].text |
那我舉例來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].start |
6182.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].end |
6184.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2020].text |
包括條文其實我們有特別寫到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].start |
6184.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].end |
6186.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2021].text |
這個大學生的這個學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].start |
6186.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].end |
6188.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2022].text |
電腦跟網路其實他們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].start |
6188.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].end |
6190.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2023].text |
必需品那麼也主張將這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].start |
6190.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].end |
6192.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2024].text |
電腦以及周邊的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].start |
6192.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].end |
6194.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2025].text |
通訊的一個使用的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].start |
6194.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].end |
6196.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2026].text |
名文來納入這個學貸的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].start |
6196.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].end |
6198.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2027].text |
那另外我們也要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].start |
6198.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].end |
6200.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2028].text |
這個中央依據這個所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].start |
6200.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].end |
6202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2029].text |
或者是突發的經濟不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].start |
6202.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].end |
6204.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2030].text |
的狀況那像是家中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].start |
6204.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].end |
6206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2031].text |
的一些突發的一些狀況做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].start |
6206.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].end |
6208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2032].text |
精準的一個助學的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].start |
6208.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].end |
6210.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2033].text |
跟還款的一個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].start |
6210.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].end |
6212.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2034].text |
那但是現在問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].start |
6212.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].end |
6214.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2035].text |
我們看到這個在黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].start |
6214.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].end |
6216.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2036].text |
他們是想要把提案把所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].start |
6216.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].end |
6218.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2037].text |
這個包含全額的補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].start |
6218.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].end |
6220.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2038].text |
那另外還有免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].start |
6220.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].end |
6222.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2039].text |
排富甚至寬限期兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].start |
6222.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].end |
6224.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2040].text |
這些比較具體的文字跟數字 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].start |
6224.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].end |
6226.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2041].text |
全部寫在魔法裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].start |
6226.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].end |
6228.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2042].text |
那我們就開始擔心了就像我剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].start |
6228.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].end |
6230.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2043].text |
說的其實我們現行的這個助學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].start |
6230.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].end |
6232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2044].text |
措施其實是可以滾動式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].start |
6232.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].end |
6234.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2045].text |
彈性來做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].start |
6234.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].end |
6236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2046].text |
但一旦寫進了魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].start |
6236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].end |
6238.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2047].text |
請問我們的彈性在哪裡如果將 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].start |
6238.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].end |
6240.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2048].text |
來我們全球的物價劇烈的變動 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].start |
6240.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].end |
6242.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2049].text |
那這個法律已經寫死了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].start |
6242.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].end |
6244.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2050].text |
那我們是不是還能夠像現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].start |
6244.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].end |
6246.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2051].text |
一樣來做滾動式的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].start |
6246.58 |
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6248.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2052].text |
還是說我們每一次可能 |
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6248.58 |
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6250.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2053].text |
因為這樣子的問題又要在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].start |
6250.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].end |
6252.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2054].text |
又要來吵架然後又要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].start |
6252.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].end |
6254.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2055].text |
修法那我想這個公平性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].start |
6254.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].end |
6256.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2056].text |
到底在哪裡喔那我們委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].start |
6258.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].end |
6262.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2057].text |
各個就是執行長的委員我們提出的版本其實是精準投放 |
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6262.2 |
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6264.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2058].text |
那讓真正需要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].start |
6264.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].end |
6266.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2059].text |
經濟不利的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].start |
6266.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].end |
6268.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2060].text |
能夠給予這個所謂的還款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].start |
6268.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].end |
6270.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2061].text |
的一個協助那但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].start |
6270.2 |
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6272.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2062].text |
現在變成我們看到的這 |
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6272.2 |
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6274.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2063].text |
今天等一下我們可能會審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].start |
6274.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].end |
6276.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2064].text |
這些版本當中他們是齊頭式 |
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6276.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].end |
6278.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2065].text |
的補貼那我想呢 |
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6278.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].end |
6280.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2066].text |
這可能會變成所謂的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].start |
6280.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].end |
6282.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2067].text |
的錯置甚至會重疊 |
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6282.2 |
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6284.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2068].text |
那而無法去 |
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6284.2 |
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6286.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2069].text |
救急到那些突然 |
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6286.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].end |
6288.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2070].text |
遭逢變故的一些邊緣戶的一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].start |
6288.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].end |
6290.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2071].text |
這是我們比較擔憂 |
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6290.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].end |
6292.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2072].text |
這樣子的一個版本的問題在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].start |
6292.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].end |
6294.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2073].text |
我還是要建議請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].start |
6294.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].end |
6296.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2074].text |
這個教育部我們知不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].start |
6296.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].end |
6298.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2075].text |
這種所謂的原則性的立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].start |
6298.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].end |
6300.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2076].text |
我們應該是要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].start |
6300.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].end |
6302.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2077].text |
這樣子的一個狀況改成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].start |
6302.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].end |
6304.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2078].text |
像這一類的保障的一個 |
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6304.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].end |
6306.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2079].text |
文字在魔法當中 |
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6306.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].end |
6308.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2080].text |
細節是不是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].start |
6308.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].end |
6310.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2081].text |
還是回歸到我們原本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].start |
6310.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].end |
6312.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2082].text |
所謂的現行的一個助學 |
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6312.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].end |
6314.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2083].text |
的措施尤其是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].start |
6314.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].end |
6316.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2084].text |
近日就已經有特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].start |
6316.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].end |
6318.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2085].text |
說我們包含還款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].start |
6318.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].end |
6320.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2086].text |
這樣子的期限我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].start |
6320.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].end |
6322.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2087].text |
寬限期到兩年然後這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].start |
6322.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].end |
6324.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2088].text |
利息也降到了0.775 |
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6324.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].end |
6326.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2089].text |
我們是可以做滾動式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].start |
6326.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].end |
6328.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2090].text |
調整其實要寫進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].start |
6328.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].end |
6330.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2091].text |
魔法這個教育部覺得適當嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].start |
6330.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].end |
6332.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2092].text |
剛剛委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].start |
6332.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].end |
6334.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2093].text |
其實各位委員提的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].start |
6334.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].end |
6336.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2094].text |
希望能夠來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].start |
6336.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].end |
6338.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2095].text |
學生這個教育部絕對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].start |
6338.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].end |
6340.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2096].text |
會全力的來努力 |
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6340.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].end |
6342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2097].text |
我們的目的都是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].start |
6342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].end |
6344.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2098].text |
當然我們更期待的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].start |
6344.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].end |
6346.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2099].text |
像委員講的給我們一些彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].start |
6346.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].end |
6348.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2100].text |
以目前大學法專 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].start |
6348.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].end |
6350.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2101].text |
跟學校法跟高級中等教育法來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].start |
6350.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].end |
6352.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2102].text |
他在就學貸款這一塊 |
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6352.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].end |
6354.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2103].text |
本來就是有授權的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].start |
6354.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].end |
6356.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2104].text |
讓教育部訂所以在過去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].start |
6356.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].end |
6358.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2105].text |
20年教育部在就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].start |
6358.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].end |
6360.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2106].text |
我們做了很多的精進措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].start |
6360.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].end |
6362.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2107].text |
這樣就很有彈性包含 |
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6362.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].end |
6364.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2108].text |
剛剛講的一些比較屬於 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].start |
6364.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].end |
6366.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2109].text |
門檻式的是不是可以讓我們 |
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6366.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].end |
6368.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2110].text |
保留因應時事來做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].start |
6368.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].end |
6370.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2111].text |
調整我想這在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].start |
6370.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].end |
6372.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2112].text |
照顧學生應該是會更貼切 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].start |
6372.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].end |
6374.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2113].text |
好這個我們等一下其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].start |
6374.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].end |
6376.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2114].text |
應該也會進入很多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].start |
6376.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].end |
6378.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2115].text |
那第二個問題其實我相信大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].start |
6378.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].end |
6380.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2116].text |
最近都在追劇那追的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].start |
6380.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].end |
6382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2117].text |
這部劇我相信有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].start |
6382.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].end |
6384.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2118].text |
的教學現場有很多的共鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].start |
6384.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].end |
6386.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2119].text |
十集我也在昨天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].start |
6386.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].end |
6388.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2120].text |
看完了那當然這個戲中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].start |
6388.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].end |
6390.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2121].text |
是以稍微這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].start |
6390.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].end |
6392.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2122].text |
應該是說他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].start |
6392.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].end |
6394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2123].text |
雖然戲劇的成分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].start |
6394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].end |
6396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2124].text |
稍微有一點誇大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].start |
6396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].end |
6398.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2125].text |
但是我想這個在教育現場其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].start |
6398.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].end |
6400.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2126].text |
每天甚至時時刻刻都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].start |
6400.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].end |
6402.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2127].text |
發生的一個拉扯的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].start |
6402.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].end |
6404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2128].text |
那我想的校園的衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].start |
6404.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].end |
6406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2129].text |
我們看到三方都在受害 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].start |
6406.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].end |
6408.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2130].text |
那麼有熱忱但是被 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].start |
6408.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].end |
6410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2131].text |
非理性期待的這些老師們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].start |
6410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].end |
6412.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2132].text |
他們已經被壓垮了 |
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6412.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].end |
6414.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2133].text |
再來就是被霸凌的孩子 |
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6414.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].end |
6416.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2134].text |
不管是同儕之間的霸凌或 |
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6416.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].end |
6418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2135].text |
師生之間的一個霸凌其實他們 |
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6418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].end |
6420.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2136].text |
也面臨這樣子的一個現場 |
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6420.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].end |
6422.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2137].text |
的一個困境再來還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].start |
6422.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].end |
6424.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2138].text |
愛子心切卻溝通失控 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].start |
6424.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].end |
6426.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2139].text |
的一些家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].start |
6426.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].end |
6428.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2140].text |
我想當這個青師生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].start |
6428.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].end |
6430.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2141].text |
他們三方的衝突不斷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].start |
6430.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].end |
6432.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2142].text |
在教學現場發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].start |
6432.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].end |
6434.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2143].text |
我想校園已經變成是 |
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6434.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].end |
6436.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2144].text |
一個戰場了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].start |
6436.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].end |
6438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2145].text |
那如果這個教育部還記得的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].start |
6438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].end |
6440.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2146].text |
其實去年5月28號我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].start |
6440.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].end |
6442.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2147].text |
第一個在我們的委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].start |
6442.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].end |
6444.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2148].text |
提出消失會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].start |
6444.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].end |
6446.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2149].text |
受到很多一線老師他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].start |
6446.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].end |
6448.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2150].text |
求助這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].start |
6448.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].end |
6450.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2151].text |
委員那另外 |
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6450.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].end |
6452.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2152].text |
在8月7號其實我也再一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].start |
6452.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].end |
6454.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2153].text |
提出但是在這中間 |
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6454.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].end |
6456.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2154].text |
其實我也開了兩次的記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].start |
6456.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].end |
6458.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2155].text |
去呼應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].start |
6458.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].end |
6460.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2156].text |
就是我們是不是應該要把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].start |
6460.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].end |
6462.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2157].text |
所有的這個比方說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].start |
6462.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].end |
6464.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2158].text |
老師們的冤案要來做一個分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].start |
6464.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].end |
6466.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2159].text |
這是我提出的當時的建議 |
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6466.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].end |
6468.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2160].text |
那當然也非常的高興 |
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6468.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].end |
6470.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2161].text |
有聽到這個教育部也聽到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].start |
6470.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].end |
6472.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2162].text |
這個現場老師的一些求救的一些聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].start |
6472.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].end |
6474.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2163].text |
那我想在1月12號 |
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6474.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].end |
6476.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2164].text |
的時候其實我們也已經公佈 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].start |
6476.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].end |
6478.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2165].text |
這個刪除匿名檢舉這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].start |
6478.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].end |
6480.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2166].text |
的事件這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].start |
6480.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].end |
6482.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2167].text |
規定那到目前為止 |
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6482.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].end |
6484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2168].text |
我們有沒有收到來自校園現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].start |
6484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].end |
6486.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2169].text |
對於這個部分有沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].start |
6486.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].end |
6488.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2170].text |
的一些回應那如果沒有 |
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6488.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].end |
6490.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2171].text |
什麼時候可以把這些具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].start |
6490.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].end |
6492.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2172].text |
回應可以讓我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].start |
6492.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].end |
6494.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2173].text |
所以各位報告1月12號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].start |
6494.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].end |
6496.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2174].text |
我們修正了有關教職 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].start |
6496.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].end |
6498.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2175].text |
的辦法之後有承諾說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].start |
6498.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].end |
6500.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2176].text |
我們會來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].start |
6500.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].end |
6502.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2177].text |
收集這半年內現場的狀況會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].start |
6502.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].end |
6504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2178].text |
繼續做調整那剛剛也說明了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].start |
6504.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].end |
6506.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2179].text |
以目前來講整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].start |
6506.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].end |
6508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2180].text |
成案進入消失會議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].start |
6508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].end |
6510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2181].text |
案子有本來的八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].start |
6510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].end |
6512.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2182].text |
八成二現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].start |
6512.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].end |
6514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2183].text |
成案送到那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].start |
6514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].end |
6516.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2184].text |
消失會議只剩兩成二但這部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].start |
6516.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].end |
6518.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2185].text |
還是要再持續的精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].start |
6518.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].end |
6520.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2186].text |
努力包含剛剛委員這邊我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].start |
6520.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].end |
6522.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2187].text |
建議的安全防護機指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].start |
6522.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].end |
6524.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2188].text |
提供老師更好的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].start |
6524.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].end |
6526.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2189].text |
我想這部分都是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].start |
6526.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].end |
6528.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2190].text |
接下來在這半年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].start |
6528.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].end |
6530.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2191].text |
一個執行中 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].start |
6530.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].end |
6532.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2192].text |
有沒有一個比較具體的時程大概什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].start |
6532.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].end |
6534.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2193].text |
時候是學期末之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].start |
6534.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].end |
6536.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2194].text |
馬上就會來做是我們那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].start |
6536.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].end |
6538.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2195].text |
對外承諾就是半年1月12號 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].start |
6538.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].end |
6540.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2196].text |
就到7月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].start |
6540.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].end |
6542.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2197].text |
就會來把整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].start |
6542.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].end |
6544.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2198].text |
一個檢討好所以7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].start |
6544.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].end |
6546.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2199].text |
份可以提出一些檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].start |
6546.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].end |
6548.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2200].text |
那對於所謂的這個冤案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].start |
6548.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].end |
6550.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2201].text |
怎麼樣恢復老師的名譽這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].start |
6550.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].end |
6552.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2202].text |
因為他還是屬於在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].start |
6552.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].end |
6554.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2203].text |
你們公佈之前這個這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].start |
6554.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].end |
6556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2204].text |
我們怎麼處理這個部分上次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].start |
6556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].end |
6558.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2205].text |
委員會這邊也通過針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].start |
6558.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].end |
6560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2206].text |
於受暫時停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].start |
6560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].end |
6562.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2207].text |
的老師他的本心 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].start |
6562.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].end |
6564.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2208].text |
跟學術研究費是可以回補 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].start |
6564.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].end |
6566.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2209].text |
回來的那接下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].start |
6566.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].end |
6568.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2210].text |
是不是有更進一步的一個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].start |
6568.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].end |
6570.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2211].text |
措施我們也會在跟現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].start |
6570.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].end |
6572.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2212].text |
的老師在做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].start |
6572.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].end |
6574.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2213].text |
我想這個霸凌林榮忍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].start |
6574.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].end |
6576.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2214].text |
尤其是校園的霸凌那麼我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].start |
6576.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].end |
6578.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2215].text |
建立要更及時更安全的一個通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].start |
6578.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].end |
6580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2216].text |
的機制來接觸這個受傷的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].start |
6580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].end |
6582.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2217].text |
孩子尤其是學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].start |
6582.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].end |
6584.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2218].text |
那當然也希望能夠導致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].start |
6584.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].end |
6586.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2219].text |
他們偏差的行為再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].start |
6586.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].end |
6588.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2220].text |
我希望其實能夠從對立走到對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].start |
6588.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].end |
6590.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2221].text |
從對立走到對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].start |
6590.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].end |
6592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2222].text |
那我想大家要從 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].start |
6592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].end |
6594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2223].text |
輕師生大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].start |
6594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].end |
6596.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2224].text |
能夠放下防衛心我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].start |
6596.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].end |
6598.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2225].text |
以所謂的共同幫助孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].start |
6598.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].end |
6600.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2226].text |
為溝通的這個起點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].start |
6600.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].end |
6602.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2227].text |
那如何要讓我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].start |
6602.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].end |
6604.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2228].text |
機制變成讓這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].start |
6604.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].end |
6606.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2229].text |
認真教學的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].start |
6606.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].end |
6608.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2230].text |
成為他們的後盾那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].start |
6608.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].end |
6610.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2231].text |
捍衛他們的教學尊嚴這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].start |
6610.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].end |
6612.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2232].text |
也是非常的重要我想當老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].start |
6612.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].end |
6614.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2233].text |
的專業被尊重那麼當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].start |
6614.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].end |
6616.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2234].text |
家長的焦慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].start |
6616.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].end |
6618.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2235].text |
被理解學生的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].start |
6618.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].end |
6620.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2236].text |
被重視我想這才是一個健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].start |
6620.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].end |
6622.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2237].text |
安全的教學環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].start |
6622.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].end |
6624.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2238].text |
那我們真的要一起來努力好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].start |
6624.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].end |
6626.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2239].text |
是謝謝委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].start |
6626.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].end |
6628.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2240].text |
謝謝市長謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].start |
6628.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].end |
6630.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[2241].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].start |
6629.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].end |
6631.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2242].text |
謝謝請坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].start |
6630.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].end |
6632.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[2243].text |
一個過園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].start |
6632.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].end |
6634.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2244].text |
再次說明不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].start |
6635.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].end |
6637.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2245].text |
就是之前有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].start |
6637.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].end |
6639.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2246].text |
就是也沒有簽署 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].start |
6639.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].end |
6641.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2247].text |
我服務你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].start |
6641.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].end |
6643.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[2248].text |
好所以基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].start |
6642.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].end |
6644.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2249].text |
因為上一次已經有開了先例了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].start |
6644.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].end |
6646.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2250].text |
所以後面就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].start |
6646.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].end |
6648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2251].text |
在這部分也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].start |
6648.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].end |
6650.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2252].text |
國委員可以體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].start |
6650.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].end |
6652.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2253].text |
我們都希望說教文委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].start |
6652.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].end |
6654.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2254].text |
大家互相幫忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].start |
6654.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].end |
6656.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[2255].text |
但因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].start |
6656.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].end |
6658.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2256].text |
在野黨的委員也有提出法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].start |
6658.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].end |
6660.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2257].text |
因為沒有得到不 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].start |
6660.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].end |
6662.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2258].text |
不服意的部分所以也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].start |
6662.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].end |
6664.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2259].text |
開了先例以後可能就會照著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].start |
6664.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].end |
6666.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2260].text |
這樣子的部分繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].start |
6668.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].end |
6670.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2261].text |
一線前的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].start |
6670.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].end |
6672.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2262].text |
我們現在休息五分鐘 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].start |
6691.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].end |
6693.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[2263].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].start |
6694.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].end |
6696.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2264].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].start |
6981.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].end |
6983.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2265].text |
好現在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].start |
6983.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].end |
6985.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2266].text |
請吳沛義委員進行巡檔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].start |
6987.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].end |
6989.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2267].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].start |
6990.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].end |
6992.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2268].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].start |
6996.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].end |
6998.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2269].text |
我請教一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].start |
6998.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].end |
7000.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[2270].text |
我請教一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].start |
7003.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].end |
7005.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2271].text |
這個簡報的封面錯了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].start |
7005.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].end |
7007.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2272].text |
各位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].start |
7008.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].end |
7010.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2273].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].start |
7009.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].end |
7011.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2274].text |
前一陣子我們醫美診所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].start |
7011.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].end |
7013.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2275].text |
有發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].start |
7013.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].end |
7015.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2276].text |
竟然在很多的醫美診所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].start |
7015.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].end |
7017.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[2277].text |
裝設了針孔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].start |
7018.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].end |
7020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2278].text |
看起來是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].start |
7020.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].end |
7022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2279].text |
用物參測器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].start |
7022.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].end |
7024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2280].text |
結果原來裡面是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].start |
7024.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].end |
7026.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2281].text |
針孔攝影機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].start |
7027.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].end |
7029.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2282].text |
引起社會嘩然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].start |
7029.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].end |
7031.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2283].text |
很多女性也非常的驚恐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].start |
7031.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].end |
7033.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2284].text |
就擔心說自己是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].start |
7033.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].end |
7035.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2285].text |
第一個已經有影像被拍到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].start |
7035.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].end |
7037.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[2286].text |
然後第二個是非常的納悶說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].start |
7037.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].end |
7039.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2287].text |
既然要裝設這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].start |
7039.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].end |
7041.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2288].text |
為什麼要把它設成是這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].start |
7041.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].end |
7043.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2289].text |
隱藏式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].start |
7043.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].end |
7045.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2290].text |
為什麼要偽裝式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].start |
7045.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].end |
7047.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[2291].text |
然後讓我們更納悶的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].start |
7048.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].end |
7050.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2292].text |
後來發現原來在學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].start |
7050.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].end |
7052.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2293].text |
校園而且幾乎是同一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].start |
7052.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].end |
7054.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2294].text |
傳出了兩起 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].start |
7054.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].end |
7056.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2295].text |
第一個是在北教大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].start |
7056.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].end |
7058.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2296].text |
另外一起是在輔大 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].start |
7058.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].end |
7060.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2297].text |
那北教大這一案後來發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].start |
7060.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].end |
7062.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2298].text |
是有外人跑進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].start |
7062.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].end |
7064.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2299].text |
學校然後去在女廁所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].start |
7064.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].end |
7066.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2300].text |
裝設這個針孔攝影機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].start |
7066.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].end |
7068.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2301].text |
那學校也第一時間馬上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].start |
7068.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].end |
7070.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2302].text |
就通報了那後來這個人也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].start |
7070.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].end |
7072.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2303].text |
找到大概是兩天內我們警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].start |
7072.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].end |
7074.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2304].text |
就查緝到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].start |
7074.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].end |
7076.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2305].text |
所以學校的反應速度還算快 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].start |
7076.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].end |
7078.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2306].text |
不過他第一時間還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].start |
7078.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].end |
7080.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2307].text |
學生先發現的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].start |
7080.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].end |
7082.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2308].text |
這個我覺得我們學校的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].start |
7082.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].end |
7084.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2309].text |
警惕 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].start |
7084.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].end |
7086.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2310].text |
然後都要再更敏銳一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].start |
7086.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].end |
7088.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2311].text |
但是輔大這一案就讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].start |
7088.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].end |
7090.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2312].text |
我們更納悶了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].start |
7090.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].end |
7092.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2313].text |
因為後來發現說輔大的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].start |
7092.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].end |
7094.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2314].text |
偽裝成 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].start |
7094.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].end |
7096.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2315].text |
煙霧偵測器的監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].start |
7096.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].end |
7098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2316].text |
他是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].start |
7098.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].end |
7100.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[2317].text |
自己採購的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].start |
7102.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].end |
7104.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[2318].text |
為什麼學校要去採購這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].start |
7105.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].end |
7107.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2319].text |
隱藏式的監視器呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].start |
7107.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].end |
7109.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2320].text |
教育部有沒有去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].start |
7109.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].end |
7111.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2321].text |
針對輔大的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].start |
7111.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].end |
7113.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2322].text |
學校目前了解的狀況是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].start |
7113.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].end |
7115.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2323].text |
他是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].start |
7115.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].end |
7117.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2324].text |
建管的那個當下一整批採購的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].start |
7117.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].end |
7119.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2325].text |
就有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].start |
7119.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].end |
7121.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2326].text |
所以學校確實沒有盡到把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].start |
7121.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].end |
7123.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2327].text |
的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].start |
7123.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].end |
7125.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2328].text |
他在建這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].start |
7125.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].end |
7127.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2329].text |
管的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].start |
7127.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].end |
7129.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2330].text |
他就已經有一起採購進來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].start |
7129.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].end |
7131.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2331].text |
採購了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].start |
7131.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].end |
7133.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2332].text |
他這一種偽裝式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].start |
7133.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].end |
7135.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2333].text |
監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].start |
7135.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].end |
7137.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2334].text |
假裝是煙霧探測器結果是監視器 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].start |
7137.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].end |
7139.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2335].text |
他們裝了多少在學校裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].start |
7139.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].end |
7141.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2336].text |
我們會要把清查資料再提供給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].start |
7141.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].end |
7143.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2337].text |
到現在還沒查出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].start |
7143.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].end |
7145.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2338].text |
已經有要求學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].start |
7145.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].end |
7147.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2339].text |
跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].start |
7147.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].end |
7149.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2340].text |
在上週教育部已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].start |
7149.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].end |
7151.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2341].text |
正式發案給各級學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].start |
7151.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].end |
7153.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2342].text |
請學校校方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].start |
7153.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].end |
7155.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2343].text |
要針對於校內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].start |
7155.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].end |
7157.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2344].text |
所有有攝影鏡頭的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].start |
7157.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].end |
7159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2345].text |
甚至一些隱密的場所 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].start |
7159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].end |
7161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2346].text |
都要進行全面的清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].start |
7161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].end |
7163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2347].text |
相關的我們是請學校在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].start |
7163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].end |
7165.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2348].text |
兩週內完成清查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].start |
7165.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].end |
7167.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2349].text |
我們清查的結果我們是不是也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].start |
7167.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].end |
7169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2350].text |
跟我們兩週內對沒錯我今天就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].start |
7169.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].end |
7171.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2351].text |
要拜託教育部說因為之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].start |
7171.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].end |
7173.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2352].text |
校園傳出偷拍事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].start |
7173.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].end |
7175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2353].text |
所以不是第一起了就是外人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].start |
7175.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].end |
7177.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2354].text |
進去學校裡面裝攝影機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].start |
7177.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].end |
7179.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2355].text |
甚至高中也有發生過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].start |
7179.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].end |
7181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2356].text |
也有一些是有學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].start |
7181.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].end |
7183.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2357].text |
甚至學生自己裝攝也都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].start |
7183.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].end |
7185.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2358].text |
所以說我要拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].start |
7185.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].end |
7187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2359].text |
我們也已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].start |
7187.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].end |
7189.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2360].text |
請學校要來盤點清查了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].start |
7189.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].end |
7191.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2361].text |
兩週內會清查出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].start |
7191.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].end |
7193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2362].text |
那有清查出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].start |
7193.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].end |
7195.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2363].text |
還有這種偽裝式攝影機 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].start |
7195.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].end |
7197.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2364].text |
我們是不是要求全部要拆卸 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].start |
7197.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].end |
7199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2365].text |
對我們要求學校會同 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].start |
7199.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].end |
7201.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2366].text |
警方然後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].start |
7201.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].end |
7203.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2367].text |
全部拆掉然後再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].start |
7203.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].end |
7205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2368].text |
看看是不是那未來有沒有可能發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].start |
7205.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].end |
7207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2369].text |
他們學校要自己去採購這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].start |
7207.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].end |
7209.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2370].text |
監視器呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].start |
7208.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].end |
7210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2371].text |
我們在給學校請學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].start |
7210.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].end |
7212.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2372].text |
清查同時也有要求學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].start |
7212.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].end |
7214.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2373].text |
要針對於未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].start |
7214.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].end |
7216.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2374].text |
在擺放的位置他的外型 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].start |
7216.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].end |
7218.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2375].text |
那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].start |
7218.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].end |
7220.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2376].text |
這個你們都要去要求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].start |
7220.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].end |
7222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2377].text |
這個學校不應該去裝設 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].start |
7222.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].end |
7224.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2378].text |
假裝是煙霧探測器結果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].start |
7224.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].end |
7226.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2379].text |
監視器不明白為什麼要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].start |
7226.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].end |
7228.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2380].text |
這麼做既然不是為了偷拍 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].start |
7228.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].end |
7230.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2381].text |
為什麼要這樣子多多長長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].start |
7230.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].end |
7232.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2382].text |
這個教育部要拜託一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].start |
7232.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].end |
7234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2383].text |
這很重要學生的隱私 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].start |
7234.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].end |
7236.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2384].text |
再來是這個營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].start |
7236.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].end |
7238.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2385].text |
在去年討論才華法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].start |
7238.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].end |
7240.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2386].text |
就是我們非常多的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].start |
7240.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].end |
7242.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2387].text |
從中央現在分配到地方了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].start |
7242.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].end |
7244.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2388].text |
意思就是說地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].start |
7244.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].end |
7246.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2389].text |
他可以依照自己的政策需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].start |
7246.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].end |
7248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2390].text |
去編列他的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].start |
7248.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].end |
7250.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2391].text |
現在台北市在這個營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].start |
7250.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].end |
7252.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2392].text |
今年就已經宣布說要營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].start |
7252.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].end |
7254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2393].text |
過去我們是說免費的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].start |
7254.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].end |
7256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2394].text |
是補助給弱勢的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].start |
7256.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].end |
7258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2395].text |
現在台北市等於是免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].start |
7258.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].end |
7260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2396].text |
營養午餐普發了全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].start |
7260.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].end |
7262.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2397].text |
實施那台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].start |
7262.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].end |
7264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2398].text |
才華法修法之後一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].start |
7264.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].end |
7266.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2399].text |
我們台北市多拿了四百多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].start |
7266.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].end |
7268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2400].text |
那他營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].start |
7268.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].end |
7270.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2401].text |
全面免費的話一年大概是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].start |
7270.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].end |
7272.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2402].text |
要花費二十多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].start |
7272.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].end |
7274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2403].text |
如果以財政機率來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].start |
7274.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].end |
7276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2404].text |
這個財源其實是台北市是付得起的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].start |
7276.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].end |
7278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2405].text |
所以我覺得也尊重地方政府這樣的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].start |
7278.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].end |
7280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2406].text |
那隨之的我看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].start |
7280.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].end |
7282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2407].text |
各縣市很多地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].start |
7282.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].end |
7284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2408].text |
也開始跟上跟進 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].start |
7284.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].end |
7286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2409].text |
說他們也要來做全面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].start |
7286.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].end |
7288.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2410].text |
營養午餐的這個免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].start |
7288.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].end |
7290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2411].text |
那麼因為一方政府過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].start |
7290.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].end |
7292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2412].text |
也在議會通常地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].start |
7292.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].end |
7294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2413].text |
已經宣布一個政策一定是他們自己評估過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].start |
7294.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].end |
7296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2414].text |
財源就是說他有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].start |
7296.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].end |
7298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2415].text |
預算一定是有預算才有辦法去宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].start |
7298.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].end |
7300.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2416].text |
尤其是你是發布了不是說我在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].start |
7300.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].end |
7302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2417].text |
研議當中已經發布代表評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].start |
7302.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].end |
7304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2418].text |
過財源了所以看起來地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].start |
7304.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].end |
7306.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2419].text |
政府應該說他們有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].start |
7306.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].end |
7308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2420].text |
目前是負擔得起的我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].start |
7308.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].end |
7310.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2421].text |
目前有哪些縣市是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].start |
7310.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].end |
7312.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2422].text |
已經在實施全面營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].start |
7312.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].end |
7314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2423].text |
免費的跟我們報告目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].start |
7314.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].end |
7316.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2424].text |
22個縣市都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].start |
7316.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].end |
7318.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2425].text |
宣布要實施營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].start |
7318.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].end |
7320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2426].text |
22個全部都宣布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].start |
7320.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].end |
7322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2427].text |
那已經在實施了因為有些是過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].start |
7322.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].end |
7324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2428].text |
本來就免費的比如說桃園 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].start |
7324.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].end |
7326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2429].text |
他本來就在實施本來有10個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].start |
7326.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].end |
7328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2430].text |
縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].start |
7328.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].end |
7330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2431].text |
是免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].start |
7330.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].end |
7332.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2432].text |
但因為在財法法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].start |
7332.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].end |
7334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2433].text |
他們一方面他們經費足夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].start |
7334.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].end |
7336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2434].text |
成都委員講的第二個部分也因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].start |
7336.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].end |
7338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2435].text |
要提供更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].start |
7338.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].end |
7340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2436].text |
的一個福利所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].start |
7340.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].end |
7342.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2437].text |
現在22縣市22其實等於就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].start |
7342.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].end |
7344.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2438].text |
全國了對我們全國各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].start |
7344.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].end |
7346.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2439].text |
都已經宣布未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].start |
7346.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].end |
7348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2440].text |
就是我們孩童的學童的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].start |
7348.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].end |
7350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2441].text |
是免費那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].start |
7350.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].end |
7352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2442].text |
地方政府既然有裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].start |
7352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].end |
7354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2443].text |
有辦法支出我是希望說教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].start |
7354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].end |
7356.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2444].text |
我也要拜託你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].start |
7356.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].end |
7358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2445].text |
我們的預算應該要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].start |
7358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].end |
7360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2446].text |
去挹注在其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].start |
7360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].end |
7362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2447].text |
現在地方政府沒有裁員的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].start |
7362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].end |
7364.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2448].text |
或是不屬於地方政府的管轄例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].start |
7364.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].end |
7366.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[2449].text |
今天的學代 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].start |
7366.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].end |
7368.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2450].text |
我們我也有提案我覺得學代就很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].start |
7368.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].end |
7370.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2451].text |
這個學代就是你們教育部要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].start |
7370.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].end |
7372.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2452].text |
去把預算挹注在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].start |
7372.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].end |
7374.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2453].text |
什麼幫助學生減輕他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].start |
7374.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].end |
7376.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2454].text |
負擔然後例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].start |
7376.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].end |
7378.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2455].text |
這個托育然後例如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].start |
7378.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].end |
7380.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2456].text |
我們相關其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].start |
7380.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].end |
7382.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2457].text |
地方政府目前不是每個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].start |
7382.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].end |
7384.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2458].text |
都已經在宣布的我們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].start |
7384.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].end |
7386.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2459].text |
要多多來支持所以營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].start |
7386.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].end |
7388.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2460].text |
既然免費的地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].start |
7388.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].end |
7390.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2461].text |
已經有預算我們就不要去疊床 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].start |
7390.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].end |
7392.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2462].text |
駕屋好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].start |
7392.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].end |
7394.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2463].text |
那最後一點是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].start |
7394.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].end |
7396.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2464].text |
我要提醒因為今天我們也有這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].start |
7396.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].end |
7398.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2465].text |
營養午餐法當中有提到飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].start |
7398.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].end |
7400.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2466].text |
教育那最近因為我們台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].start |
7400.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].end |
7402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2467].text |
作家楊雙子他奪得到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].start |
7402.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].end |
7404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2468].text |
國際不客獎台灣漫遊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].start |
7404.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].end |
7406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2469].text |
這一本書其實裡面就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].start |
7406.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].end |
7408.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2470].text |
以台灣的食物為主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].start |
7408.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].end |
7410.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2471].text |
的那我想台灣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].start |
7410.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].end |
7412.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2472].text |
文學作品跟飲食相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].start |
7412.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].end |
7414.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2473].text |
的也很多我們在推 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].start |
7414.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].end |
7416.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2474].text |
飲食教育的時候應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].start |
7416.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].end |
7418.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2475].text |
把人文跟歷史也納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].start |
7418.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].end |
7420.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2476].text |
讓孩子也可以去透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].start |
7420.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].end |
7422.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2477].text |
食物認識到我們的文化跟歷史的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].start |
7422.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].end |
7424.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2478].text |
這一點我覺得很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].start |
7424.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].end |
7426.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2479].text |
也請你們可以一起來納入法庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].start |
7426.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].end |
7428.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2480].text |
我們未來努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].start |
7432.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].end |
7434.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[2481].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].start |
7438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].end |
7440.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2482].text |
下一位有請武士藥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].start |
7448.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].end |
7450.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2483].text |
有請朱次長有請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].start |
7450.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].end |
7452.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2484].text |
彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].start |
7456.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].end |
7458.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2485].text |
喂 啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].start |
7461.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].end |
7463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2486].text |
好 辛苦次長署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].start |
7463.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].end |
7465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2487].text |
辛苦大家喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].start |
7465.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].end |
7467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2488].text |
我是非常地遺憾立法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].start |
7467.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].end |
7469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2489].text |
亂象到現在任期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].start |
7469.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].end |
7471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2490].text |
已經過了一半 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].start |
7471.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].end |
7473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2491].text |
權力分立的原則還是持續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].start |
7473.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].end |
7475.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2492].text |
亂了套 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].start |
7475.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].end |
7477.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2493].text |
預算權是行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].start |
7477.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].end |
7479.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2494].text |
立法院是行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].start |
7479.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].end |
7481.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2495].text |
對於行政院送出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].start |
7481.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].end |
7483.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2496].text |
預算要監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].start |
7483.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].end |
7485.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2497].text |
要把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].start |
7485.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].end |
7487.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2498].text |
憲法規定的非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].start |
7487.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].end |
7489.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2499].text |
預算法也應當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].start |
7489.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].end |
7491.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2500].text |
看懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].start |
7490.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].end |
7492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2501].text |
所以說立法院不應當一再的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].start |
7492.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].end |
7494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2502].text |
用修法的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].start |
7494.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].end |
7496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2503].text |
來片面加碼預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].start |
7496.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].end |
7498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2504].text |
立法院該做的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].start |
7498.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].end |
7500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2505].text |
是符合憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].start |
7500.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].end |
7502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2506].text |
符合法規去審查預算才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].start |
7502.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].end |
7504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2507].text |
可是呢 下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].start |
7504.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].end |
7506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2508].text |
現在的立法院不當立法院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].start |
7506.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].end |
7508.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2509].text |
立法院是搶當行政院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].start |
7512.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].end |
7514.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2510].text |
預算拖延到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].start |
7514.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].end |
7516.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2511].text |
教科文的預算286天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].start |
7517 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].end |
7519 |
| transcript.whisperx[2512].text |
羅昭偉所負責的文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].start |
7519 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].end |
7521 |
| transcript.whisperx[2513].text |
運動部 故宮跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].start |
7521 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].end |
7523 |
| transcript.whisperx[2514].text |
國科會都還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].start |
7523 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].end |
7525 |
| transcript.whisperx[2515].text |
翻開預算書的第一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].start |
7525 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].end |
7527 |
| transcript.whisperx[2516].text |
連一筆都還沒有實質審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].start |
7527.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].end |
7529.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2517].text |
所以說預算如果不審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].start |
7529.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].end |
7531.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2518].text |
但是立委卻另一方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].start |
7531.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].end |
7533.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2519].text |
來增加政府預算的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].start |
7533.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].end |
7535.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2520].text |
違反憲法違反預算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].start |
7535.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].end |
7537.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2521].text |
違反財政紀律法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].start |
7537.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].end |
7539.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2522].text |
這些法規我們已經講了兩年多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].start |
7542.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].end |
7544.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2523].text |
所以立法院為什麼不審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].start |
7544.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].end |
7546.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2524].text |
然後一再的再提跟預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].start |
7546.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].end |
7548.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2525].text |
加碼相關的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].start |
7548.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].end |
7550.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2526].text |
就算通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].start |
7550.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].end |
7552.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[2527].text |
沒有預算怎麼執行呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].start |
7553.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].end |
7555.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2528].text |
我真的需要再一次來抗議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].start |
7555.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].end |
7557.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2529].text |
這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].start |
7558.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].end |
7560.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2530].text |
全力分立 被亂了套的亂象下眼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].start |
7562.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].end |
7564.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2531].text |
我更要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].start |
7564.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].end |
7566.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[2532].text |
反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].start |
7565.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].end |
7567.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[2533].text |
交委排案的差別待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].start |
7568.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].end |
7570.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[2534].text |
今天針對學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].start |
7571.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].end |
7575.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2535].text |
民進黨吳思瑤 郭育晴 吳立華 吳佩奕 張雅玲 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].start |
7575.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].end |
7577.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2536].text |
陳培宇委員所提出來的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].start |
7577.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].end |
7579.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2537].text |
因為仍在複裔期 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].start |
7579.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].end |
7581.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2538].text |
所以沒有辦法立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].start |
7581.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].end |
7583.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2539].text |
交委讀後國民黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].start |
7583.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].end |
7585.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[2540].text |
就丟發了這些民進黨委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].start |
7588.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].end |
7590.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[2541].text |
學代三法有這麼急嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].start |
7591.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].end |
7593.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2542].text |
強著今天立案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].start |
7593.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].end |
7595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2543].text |
把其他的版本丟包了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].start |
7595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].end |
7597.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2544].text |
而且今天要逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].start |
7597.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].end |
7599.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2545].text |
如果通過了違憲的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].start |
7601.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].end |
7603.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2546].text |
然後我們民進黨的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].start |
7603.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].end |
7605.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[2547].text |
最終 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].start |
7604.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].end |
7606.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2548].text |
不見天日 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].start |
7606.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].end |
7608.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2549].text |
我們連搶救的機會都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].start |
7608.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].end |
7610.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2550].text |
我再說一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].start |
7610.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].end |
7612.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2551].text |
這些法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].start |
7612.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].end |
7614.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2552].text |
重要 但有比預算重要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].start |
7614.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].end |
7616.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2553].text |
應當先審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].start |
7616.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].end |
7618.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2554].text |
而不是搶牌法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].start |
7618.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].end |
7620.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2555].text |
我還是要再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].start |
7620.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].end |
7622.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2556].text |
下頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].start |
7621.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].end |
7623.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2557].text |
回到今天的版本學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].start |
7623.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].end |
7625.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2558].text |
行政部門擴大照顧學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].start |
7625.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].end |
7627.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2559].text |
幫助學習減負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].start |
7627.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].end |
7629.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2560].text |
我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].start |
7629.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].end |
7631.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2561].text |
覆蓋率達到52%的大專生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].start |
7631.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].end |
7633.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2562].text |
受惠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].start |
7633.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].end |
7635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2563].text |
我們的學雜費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].start |
7635.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].end |
7637.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2564].text |
每年投入的國家預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].start |
7637.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].end |
7639.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[2565].text |
280億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].start |
7639.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].end |
7641.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2566].text |
在教學貸款的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].start |
7641.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].end |
7643.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2567].text |
賴總統宣示的新的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].start |
7643.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].end |
7645.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2568].text |
在學期間免息 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].start |
7645.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].end |
7647.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2569].text |
還款的寬延期限 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].start |
7647.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].end |
7649.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2570].text |
延長到畢業後兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].start |
7649.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].end |
7651.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2571].text |
還款的利率也再降一趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].start |
7651.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].end |
7653.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2572].text |
每年增加的預算是15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].start |
7653.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].end |
7655.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2573].text |
所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].start |
7655.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].end |
7657.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2574].text |
這個280億跟15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].start |
7657.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].end |
7659.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2575].text |
是整體行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].start |
7659.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].end |
7661.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2576].text |
教育部在審著國家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].start |
7661.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].end |
7663.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2577].text |
財政紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].start |
7663.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].end |
7665.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2578].text |
政府做得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].start |
7665.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].end |
7667.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2579].text |
政府能做 政府願意做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].start |
7667.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].end |
7669.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2580].text |
政府行有餘力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].start |
7669.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].end |
7671.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2581].text |
行政權就可以上路 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].start |
7671.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].end |
7673.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2582].text |
我們編預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].start |
7673.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].end |
7675.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2583].text |
然後 有需要修法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].start |
7676.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].end |
7678.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2584].text |
次長 我們像之前的這個學雜費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].start |
7678.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].end |
7680.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2585].text |
高中職學費全免 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].start |
7680.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].end |
7682.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2586].text |
有需要修法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].start |
7682.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].end |
7684.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2587].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].start |
7684.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].end |
7686.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2588].text |
我們都是用計畫方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].start |
7686.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].end |
7688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2589].text |
或是根據既有的受惠辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].start |
7688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].end |
7690.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2590].text |
就可以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].start |
7690.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].end |
7692.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2591].text |
所以說行政權跟立法權的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].start |
7692.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].end |
7694.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2592].text |
非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].start |
7694.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].end |
7696.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2593].text |
行政院為了擴大照顧學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].start |
7696.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].end |
7698.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2594].text |
擴大照顧弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].start |
7698.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].end |
7700.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2595].text |
他編列預算修正相關的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].start |
7700.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].end |
7702.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2596].text |
法規就可以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].start |
7702.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].end |
7704.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2597].text |
而不是立法院在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].start |
7704.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].end |
7706.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2598].text |
搶功勞 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].start |
7706.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].end |
7708.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2599].text |
在這裡要割到尾 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].start |
7708.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].end |
7710.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2600].text |
在這裡要無視財政紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].start |
7710.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].end |
7712.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[2601].text |
一再的違憲加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].start |
7713.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].end |
7715.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[2602].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].start |
7714.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].end |
7716.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2603].text |
我們來看看今天提出來這些版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].start |
7716.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].end |
7718.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2604].text |
我要強調民進黨委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].start |
7718.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].end |
7720.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2605].text |
都被丟包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].start |
7719.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].end |
7721.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2606].text |
國民黨委員提出來的要加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].start |
7721.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].end |
7723.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2607].text |
再加碼家庭所得進額 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].start |
7723.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].end |
7725.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2608].text |
適用率稅率12%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].start |
7725.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].end |
7727.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2609].text |
就要免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].start |
7727.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].end |
7729.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2610].text |
家庭所得最後五等分最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].start |
7729.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].end |
7731.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2611].text |
20%就要免納學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].start |
7731.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].end |
7733.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2612].text |
加總起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].start |
7733.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].end |
7735.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2613].text |
上面的是要每年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].start |
7735.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].end |
7737.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2614].text |
400億的國家預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].start |
7737.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].end |
7739.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2615].text |
下面這個五等分要另外增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].start |
7739.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].end |
7741.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2616].text |
100億的國家預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].start |
7741.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].end |
7743.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2617].text |
加起來就要再膨脹 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].start |
7743.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].end |
7745.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2618].text |
500億的國家預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].start |
7745.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].end |
7747.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2619].text |
依據財政紀律法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].start |
7747.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].end |
7749.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2620].text |
依據預算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].start |
7749.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].end |
7751.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2621].text |
依據憲法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].start |
7751.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].end |
7753.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2622].text |
立委是不可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].start |
7753.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].end |
7755.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2623].text |
政府支出除非你找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].start |
7755.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].end |
7757.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2624].text |
合理的籌措裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].start |
7757.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].end |
7759.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2625].text |
而且要跟行政部門來商議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].start |
7761.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].end |
7763.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2626].text |
這500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].start |
7763.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].end |
7765.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2627].text |
教育部因為裁劃法我們已經少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].start |
7765.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].end |
7767.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[2628].text |
900多億的預算了一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].start |
7767.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].end |
7769.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2629].text |
怎麼在求錯呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].start |
7769.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].end |
7771.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2630].text |
所以我認為這些東西我真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].start |
7771.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].end |
7773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2631].text |
不樂見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].start |
7773.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].end |
7775.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2632].text |
立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].start |
7775.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].end |
7777.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2633].text |
說我們要擴大照顧學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].start |
7777.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].end |
7779.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2634].text |
很好我們都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].start |
7779.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].end |
7781.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2635].text |
可是讓行政部門在行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].start |
7781.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].end |
7783.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2636].text |
的權限裡頭去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].start |
7783.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].end |
7785.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2637].text |
一再的修法加碼加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].start |
7785.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].end |
7787.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2638].text |
立委不需要去求錯預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].start |
7787.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].end |
7789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2639].text |
立委只需要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].start |
7789.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].end |
7791.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2640].text |
來開支票 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].start |
7791.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].end |
7793.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2641].text |
我實在不能接受啊下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].start |
7793.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].end |
7795.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2642].text |
所以說支持學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].start |
7795.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].end |
7797.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2643].text |
權益各黨都一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].start |
7797.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].end |
7799.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2644].text |
我要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].start |
7799.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].end |
7801.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2645].text |
民進黨立委的版本不應當 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].start |
7801.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].end |
7803.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2646].text |
被丟包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].start |
7803.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].end |
7805.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2647].text |
我們該做的是進行原則性 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].start |
7805.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].end |
7807.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2648].text |
的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].start |
7807.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].end |
7809.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2649].text |
授權行政部門去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].start |
7809.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].end |
7811.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2650].text |
在學代三法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].start |
7811.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].end |
7813.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2651].text |
大學法35條增列第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].start |
7813.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].end |
7815.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2652].text |
政府因依學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].start |
7815.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].end |
7817.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2653].text |
家庭所得或其他的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].start |
7817.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].end |
7819.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2654].text |
狀況提供經濟不利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].start |
7819.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].end |
7821.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2655].text |
處境學生助學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].start |
7821.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].end |
7823.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2656].text |
措施其執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].start |
7823.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].end |
7825.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2657].text |
額度條件權利義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].start |
7825.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].end |
7827.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[2658].text |
由教育部定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].start |
7827.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].end |
7829.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2659].text |
高級中等教育法跟專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].start |
7829.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].end |
7831.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2660].text |
毅然 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].start |
7831.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].end |
7833.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2661].text |
民進黨委員的版本就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].start |
7833.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].end |
7835.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2662].text |
給予一個母法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].start |
7835.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].end |
7837.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2663].text |
授權原則性的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].start |
7837.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].end |
7839.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2664].text |
及執行的條件額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].start |
7839.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].end |
7841.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2665].text |
權利義務授權教育部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].start |
7841.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].end |
7843.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2666].text |
來進行你們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].start |
7843.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].end |
7845.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2667].text |
比較同意這樣子的作為啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].start |
7845.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].end |
7847.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2668].text |
是謝謝委員確實如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].start |
7847.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].end |
7849.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2669].text |
以就學貸款來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].start |
7849.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].end |
7851.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2670].text |
目前的三個法令本來就 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].start |
7851.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].end |
7853.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2671].text |
有一個授權辦法所以過去20年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].start |
7853.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].end |
7855.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2672].text |
教育部門就做了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].start |
7855.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].end |
7857.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2673].text |
就是這樣做嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].start |
7857.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].end |
7859.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2674].text |
所以我們期待如果有這樣的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].start |
7859.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].end |
7861.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2675].text |
我就舉一個例子喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].start |
7861.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].end |
7863.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2676].text |
我們最早的學貸是你畢業後1年就要開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].start |
7863.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].end |
7865.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2677].text |
繁款了然後我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].start |
7865.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].end |
7867.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2678].text |
在民國95年有特別去規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].start |
7867.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].end |
7869.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2679].text |
如果你的月收入沒有超過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].start |
7869.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].end |
7871.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2680].text |
3萬塊你可以都不要還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].start |
7871.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].end |
7873.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2681].text |
可以最多可以3年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].start |
7873.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].end |
7875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2682].text |
就是隨著整個經濟的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].start |
7875.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].end |
7877.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2683].text |
跟學生青年的負荷我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].start |
7877.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].end |
7879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2684].text |
已經變成說你月薪在5萬塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].start |
7879.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].end |
7881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2685].text |
以下你都可以來申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].start |
7881.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].end |
7883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2686].text |
連本金利息都不用還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].start |
7883.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].end |
7885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2687].text |
都在捨著學生的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].start |
7885.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].end |
7887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2688].text |
減輕學生的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].start |
7887.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].end |
7889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2689].text |
不管是在學期間或是他出出社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].start |
7889.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].end |
7891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2690].text |
緩緩的那個壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].start |
7891.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].end |
7893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2691].text |
所以行政權限該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].start |
7893.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].end |
7895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2692].text |
而且有財政的能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].start |
7895.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].end |
7897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2693].text |
的權衡我們一定做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].start |
7897.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].end |
7899.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2694].text |
做到能做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].start |
7899.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].end |
7901.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2695].text |
極致但立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].start |
7901.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].end |
7903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2696].text |
該做的就是原則性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].start |
7903.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].end |
7905.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2697].text |
修法授權行政部門去 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].start |
7905.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].end |
7907.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2698].text |
合理執行而如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].start |
7907.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].end |
7909.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2699].text |
認為行政部門執行的不到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].start |
7909.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].end |
7911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2700].text |
立法委員可以用的工具是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].start |
7911.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].end |
7913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2701].text |
就是審預算啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].start |
7913.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].end |
7915.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2702].text |
我在審預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].start |
7915.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].end |
7917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2703].text |
認為你這項高教司做的不夠好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].start |
7917.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].end |
7919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2704].text |
國教署做的不正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].start |
7919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].end |
7921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2705].text |
我可以用審預算的時候提出我的把關 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].start |
7921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].end |
7923.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2706].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].start |
7923.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].end |
7925.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2707].text |
但是現在預算不省啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].start |
7926.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].end |
7928.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2708].text |
在下面一個營養午餐我很快的結束 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].start |
7928.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].end |
7930.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2709].text |
營養午餐下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].start |
7930.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].end |
7932.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2710].text |
22個縣市全面宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].start |
7932.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].end |
7934.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2711].text |
營養午餐分兩類 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].start |
7934.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].end |
7936.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2712].text |
第一類是在才化法還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].start |
7936.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].end |
7938.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2713].text |
沒修正的時候有10個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].start |
7938.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].end |
7940.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2714].text |
縣市包括桃園在內 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].start |
7940.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].end |
7942.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2715].text |
就有10個縣市自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].start |
7942.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].end |
7944.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2716].text |
審註地方裁員是OK的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].start |
7944.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].end |
7946.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2717].text |
在才化法修正前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].start |
7946.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].end |
7948.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2718].text |
中央還沒有把 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].start |
7948.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].end |
7950.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2719].text |
這麼多更多的錢下放地方之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].start |
7950.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].end |
7952.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2720].text |
10個縣市就自己扛 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].start |
7952.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].end |
7954.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2721].text |
自己認為行有餘力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].start |
7954.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].end |
7956.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[2722].text |
地方願意自行買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].start |
7956.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].end |
7958.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2723].text |
才化法修正之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].start |
7958.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].end |
7960.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2724].text |
因為中央擴大了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].start |
7960.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].end |
7962.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2725].text |
以台北市每年增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].start |
7962.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].end |
7964.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2726].text |
給台北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].start |
7964.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].end |
7966.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2727].text |
多拿了460億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].start |
7966.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].end |
7968.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2728].text |
對不起470億新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].start |
7968.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].end |
7970.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2729].text |
可以每年多拿432億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].start |
7970.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].end |
7972.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2730].text |
所以地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].start |
7972.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].end |
7974.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2731].text |
認為在才化法新修之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].start |
7974.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].end |
7976.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2732].text |
它行有餘力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].start |
7976.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].end |
7978.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2733].text |
另外的12個縣市也全面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].start |
7978.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].end |
7980.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2734].text |
宣布營養午餐免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].start |
7980.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].end |
7982.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2735].text |
這告訴我們審註 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].start |
7982.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].end |
7984.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2736].text |
財政狀況是重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].start |
7984.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].end |
7986.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2737].text |
不管是中央或地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].start |
7986.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].end |
7988.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2738].text |
地方自己辦得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].start |
7988.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].end |
7990.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2739].text |
地方手腳負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].start |
7990.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].end |
7992.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2740].text |
他願意用地方的財力去買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].start |
7992.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].end |
7994.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2741].text |
營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].start |
7994.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].end |
7996.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[2742].text |
這就是現在的政策進行式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].start |
7997.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].end |
7999.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[2743].text |
但是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].start |
7999.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].end |
8001.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[2744].text |
我看到委員又要修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].start |
8002.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].end |
8004.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2745].text |
把地方自己能夠負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].start |
8004.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].end |
8006.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2746].text |
自己願意自行買單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].start |
8006.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].end |
8008.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2747].text |
卻要透過修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].start |
8008.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].end |
8010.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2748].text |
要強加又要中央去搶單 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].start |
8010.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].end |
8012.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2749].text |
這有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].start |
8012.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].end |
8014.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2750].text |
如果說這個營養午餐修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].start |
8014.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].end |
8016.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2751].text |
又被這樣片面 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].start |
8016.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].end |
8018.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2752].text |
增加了立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].start |
8018.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].end |
8020.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2753].text |
就是行政部門的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].start |
8020.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].end |
8022.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[2754].text |
會增加多少億每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].start |
8022.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].end |
8024.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2755].text |
138億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].start |
8024.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].end |
8026.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2756].text |
我們原本三張EQ |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].start |
8026.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].end |
8028.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2757].text |
每年願意給地方74億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].start |
8028.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].end |
8030.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2758].text |
現在反過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].start |
8030.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].end |
8032.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2759].text |
財劃法下放了預算之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].start |
8034.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].end |
8036.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2760].text |
再搭配在一黨委員提出的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].start |
8036.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].end |
8038.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2761].text |
又違憲又違反預算法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].start |
8038.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].end |
8040.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2762].text |
又違反財政紀律法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].start |
8040.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].end |
8042.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2763].text |
又將把中央的教育部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].start |
8042.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].end |
8044.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2764].text |
每年要再增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].start |
8044.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].end |
8046.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[2765].text |
138億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].start |
8048.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].end |
8050.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2766].text |
所以下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].start |
8050.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].end |
8052.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2767].text |
財劃法挖空了中央財源 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].start |
8052.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].end |
8054.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2768].text |
中央已經每年少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].start |
8054.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].end |
8056.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2769].text |
4165億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].start |
8056.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].end |
8058.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2770].text |
地方可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].start |
8058.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].end |
8060.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2771].text |
4000多億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].start |
8060.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].end |
8062.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2772].text |
如果我要再一次提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].start |
8062.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].end |
8064.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[2773].text |
今天的三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].start |
8065.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].end |
8067.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2774].text |
就是說今天的學貸三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].start |
8067.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].end |
8069.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2775].text |
跟營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].start |
8069.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].end |
8071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2776].text |
營養午餐法會增加中央138億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].start |
8071.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].end |
8073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2777].text |
然後學貸會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].start |
8073.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].end |
8075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2778].text |
增加400億加100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].start |
8075.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].end |
8077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2779].text |
是500億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].start |
8077.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].end |
8079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2780].text |
所以今天的這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].start |
8079.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].end |
8081.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[2781].text |
如果在立法院又倉促的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].start |
8080.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].end |
8082.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2782].text |
修正通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].start |
8082.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].end |
8084.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2783].text |
就今天教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].start |
8084.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].end |
8086.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2784].text |
又會增加教育部門行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].start |
8086.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].end |
8088.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[2785].text |
一年638億的預算支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].start |
8091.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].end |
8093.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[2786].text |
很可觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].start |
8092.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].end |
8094.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2787].text |
很可怕耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].start |
8094.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].end |
8096.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2788].text |
教育部今年的預算已經少了多少呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].start |
8096.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].end |
8098.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2789].text |
教育部部本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].start |
8098.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].end |
8100.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[2790].text |
因為財劃法的後遺症下業 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].start |
8101.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].end |
8103.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2791].text |
今年已經減少了892億的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].start |
8103.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].end |
8105.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2792].text |
部本部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].start |
8105.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].end |
8107.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2793].text |
如果今天一天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].start |
8107.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].end |
8109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2794].text |
學貸三法加上營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].start |
8109.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].end |
8111.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2795].text |
又要中央買單立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].start |
8111.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].end |
8113.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2796].text |
強行片面增加政府預算支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].start |
8113.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].end |
8115.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2797].text |
又會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].start |
8115.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].end |
8117.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2798].text |
638億一年 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].start |
8118.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].end |
8120.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2799].text |
國家會垮耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].start |
8120.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].end |
8122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2800].text |
財政紀律不復存在耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].start |
8122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].end |
8124.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2801].text |
這是嚴肅的課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].start |
8124.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].end |
8126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2802].text |
教育部門勇敢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].start |
8126.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].end |
8128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2803].text |
表達你們的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].start |
8128.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].end |
8130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2804].text |
照顧學生協助地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].start |
8130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].end |
8132.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2805].text |
我們每一天都在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].start |
8132.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].end |
8134.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2806].text |
我也要請在野黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].start |
8134.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].end |
8136.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2807].text |
三思再三思 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].start |
8136.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].end |
8138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2808].text |
今天一旦逐條審查通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].start |
8138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].end |
8140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2809].text |
又要增加638億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].start |
8140.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].end |
8142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2810].text |
教育部門的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].start |
8142.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].end |
8144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2811].text |
錢在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].start |
8144.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].end |
8146.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2812].text |
次長錢在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].start |
8147.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].end |
8149.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2813].text |
我們期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].start |
8149.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].end |
8151.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2814].text |
可以透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].start |
8151.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].end |
8153.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2815].text |
我們現在的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].start |
8153.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].end |
8155.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2816].text |
讓部裡面可以橫著 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].start |
8155.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].end |
8157.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2817].text |
財政跟學生的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].start |
8157.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].end |
8159.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2818].text |
來精準的照顧到有需要的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].start |
8161.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].end |
8163.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2819].text |
為加碼而加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].start |
8163.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].end |
8165.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2820].text |
立委當好立法院的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].start |
8165.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].end |
8167.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2821].text |
立法院不要搶當行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].start |
8167.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].end |
8169.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2822].text |
國家的財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].start |
8169.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].end |
8171.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2823].text |
這樣子真的會整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].start |
8171.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].end |
8173.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2824].text |
崩壞財政制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].start |
8173.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].end |
8175.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2825].text |
638億 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].start |
8175.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].end |
8177.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[2826].text |
今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].start |
8177.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].end |
8179.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2827].text |
四個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].start |
8178.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].end |
8180.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2828].text |
我真的覺得大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].start |
8180.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].end |
8182.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[2829].text |
三思再三思謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].start |
8183.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].end |
8185.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2830].text |
謝謝委員請坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].start |
8185.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].end |
8187.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2831].text |
也跟無校委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].start |
8187.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].end |
8189.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[2832].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].start |
8189.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].end |
8191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2833].text |
昨天一四五已經確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].start |
8191.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].end |
8193.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2834].text |
6月11開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].start |
8193.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].end |
8195.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2835].text |
我們今天中午就結案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].start |
8195.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].end |
8197.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[2836].text |
收件 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].start |
8197.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].end |
8199.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2837].text |
我想無校委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].start |
8199.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].end |
8201.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2838].text |
也要先確認一下一四五的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].start |
8201.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].end |
8203.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2839].text |
可能不太清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].start |
8203.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].end |
8205.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2840].text |
那請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].start |
8205.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].end |
8207.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2841].text |
那個無校委員喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].start |
8207.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].end |
8209.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2842].text |
黃偉哲市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].start |
8209.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].end |
8211.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2843].text |
你有時間讓我們審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].start |
8211.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].end |
8213.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2844].text |
不要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].start |
8213.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].end |
8215.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2845].text |
評論其他委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].start |
8215.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].end |
8217.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2846].text |
您沒有這樣子的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].start |
8217.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].end |
8219.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2847].text |
請不要在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].start |
8219.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].end |
8221.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2848].text |
每一天都要聽您 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].start |
8221.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].end |
8223.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2849].text |
過當的評論每一個立委的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].start |
8223.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].end |
8225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2850].text |
請尊重每個立委的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].start |
8225.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].end |
8227.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2851].text |
請您趕快排審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].start |
8227.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].end |
8229.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2852].text |
我們運動部文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].start |
8229.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].end |
8231.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2853].text |
我們運動部文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].start |
8231.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].end |
8233.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2854].text |
我們運動部文化部 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].start |
8233.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].end |
8235.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2855].text |
故宮國科會的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].start |
8235.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].end |
8237.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2856].text |
預算書第一頁都還沒有翻開 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].start |
8237.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].end |
8239.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2857].text |
預算書一筆都沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].start |
8239.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].end |
8241.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2858].text |
預算書一筆都沒有通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].start |
8241.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].end |
8243.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2859].text |
請停止評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].start |
8243.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].end |
8245.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2860].text |
每一個立委的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].start |
8245.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].end |
8247.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2861].text |
昨天陳培於委員也向您抗議過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].start |
8247.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].end |
8249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2862].text |
昨天陳培於委員也向您抗議過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].start |
8249.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].end |
8251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2863].text |
到此為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].start |
8251.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].end |
8253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2864].text |
眾委委員請不要召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].start |
8253.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].end |
8255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2865].text |
尊重每個委員好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].start |
8255.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].end |
8257.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2866].text |
召委請尊重每個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].start |
8257.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].end |
8259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2867].text |
好下個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].start |
8259.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].end |
8261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2868].text |
那為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].start |
8261.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].end |
8263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2869].text |
如果你上週 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].start |
8263.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].end |
8265.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2870].text |
不用去日本太營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].start |
8265.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].end |
8267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2871].text |
如果昨天不需要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].start |
8267.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].end |
8269.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2872].text |
你的電競基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].start |
8269.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].end |
8271.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2873].text |
如果今天不用排學 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].start |
8271.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].end |
8273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2874].text |
大法太營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].start |
8273.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].end |
8275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2875].text |
我們的所有預算都可以完成審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].start |
8275.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].end |
8277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2876].text |
我們的所有預算都可以完成審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].start |
8277.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].end |
8279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2877].text |
好夠了謝謝詳委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].start |
8279.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].end |
8281.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2878].text |
趕快排審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].start |
8281.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].end |
8283.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2879].text |
預算就是民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].start |
8283.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].end |
8285.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2880].text |
人民在等預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].start |
8285.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].end |
8287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2881].text |
人民在等預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].start |
8287.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].end |
8289.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2882].text |
預算拖了286天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].start |
8289.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].end |
8291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2883].text |
不要再拖預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].start |
8291.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].end |
8293.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2884].text |
不要再拖預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].start |
8293.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].end |
8295.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2885].text |
尤其教科文預算是 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].start |
8295.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].end |
8297.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2886].text |
重中之重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].start |
8297.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].end |
8299.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2887].text |
我再次懇請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].start |
8299.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].end |
8301.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2888].text |
我懇請我懇求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].start |
8301.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].end |
8303.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2889].text |
我懇求 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].start |
8303.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].end |
8305.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2890].text |
在野黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].start |
8305.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].end |
8307.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2891].text |
摩天委召委請照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].start |
8307.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].end |
8309.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2892].text |
學生請照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].start |
8309.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].end |
8311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2893].text |
弱勢請照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].start |
8311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].end |
8313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2894].text |
運動權請照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].start |
8313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].end |
8315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2895].text |
文化權請照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].start |
8315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].end |
8317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2896].text |
我們國科會的科技預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].start |
8317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].end |
8319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2897].text |
請讓我們的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].start |
8319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].end |
8321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2898].text |
可以審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].start |
8321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].end |
8323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2899].text |
預算已經拖了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].start |
8323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].end |
8325.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2900].text |
286天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].start |
8325.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].end |
8327.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2901].text |
年已經過半了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].start |
8327.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].end |
8329.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2902].text |
到底還要拖 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].start |
8329.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].end |
8331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2903].text |
多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].start |
8331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].end |
8333.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2904].text |
如果您有時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].start |
8333.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].end |
8335.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2905].text |
在這裡每一個委員的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].start |
8335.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].end |
8337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2906].text |
您都要評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].start |
8337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].end |
8339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2907].text |
把時間審下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].start |
8339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].end |
8341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2908].text |
我們審預算好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].start |
8341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].end |
8343.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2909].text |
把時間審下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].start |
8343.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].end |
8345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2910].text |
國家要預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].start |
8345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].end |
8347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2911].text |
人民要預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].start |
8347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].end |
8349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2912].text |
學生能夠看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].start |
8349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].end |
8351.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2913].text |
我們今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].start |
8350.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].end |
8352.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2914].text |
正是你們的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].start |
8352.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].end |
8354.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2915].text |
所以拜託無視要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].start |
8355.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].end |
8357.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[2916].text |
真的要拜託您不要誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].start |
8357.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].end |
8359.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[2917].text |
那對於無視要委員不斷的在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].start |
8361.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].end |
8363.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2918].text |
我們把他們的法案丟包 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].start |
8363.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].end |
8365.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2919].text |
我們也希望無視要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].start |
8365.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].end |
8367.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[2920].text |
不要兩套標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].start |
8368.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].end |
8370.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[2921].text |
上次在野黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].start |
8370.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].end |
8372.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2922].text |
有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].start |
8372.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].end |
8374.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[2923].text |
相關的法案你們也不復議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].start |
8375.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].end |
8377.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[2924].text |
不願意區籤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].start |
8377.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].end |
8379.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[2925].text |
所以丟包了其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].start |
8379.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].end |
8381.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[2926].text |
所以作為召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].start |
8381.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].end |
8383.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2927].text |
我們一定要非常公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].start |
8383.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].end |
8385.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2928].text |
既然民進黨已經開了先例 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].start |
8385.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].end |
8387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2929].text |
先不簽署別人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].start |
8387.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].end |
8389.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[2930].text |
不復議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].start |
8389.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].end |
8391.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2931].text |
所以我想我們就維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].start |
8391.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].end |
8393.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2932].text |
民進黨所開出的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].start |
8393.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].end |
8395.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[2933].text |
繼續保持這樣子的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].start |
8397.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].end |
8397.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[2934].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].start |
8398.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].end |
8400.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[2935].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].start |
8400.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].end |
8402.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2936].text |
非常可惜委員不願意聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].start |
8402.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].end |
8404.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[2937].text |
我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].start |
8404.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].end |
8406.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2938].text |
分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].start |
8406.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].end |
8408.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[2939].text |
一貫的就是不斷的雙套標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].start |
8412.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].end |
8414.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2940].text |
下面有請 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].start |
8414.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].end |
8416.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2941].text |
羅廷瑋委員來做質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].start |
8416.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].end |
8418.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[2942].text |
我們請羅志祥委員代理召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].start |
8430.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].end |
8432.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[2943].text |
請羅廷瑋委員巡達 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].start |
8436.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].end |
8438.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2944].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].start |
8438.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].end |
8440.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[2945].text |
有請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].start |
8442.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].end |
8444.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[2946].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].start |
8444.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].end |
8446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2947].text |
好次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].start |
8446.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].end |
8448.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2948].text |
首先先跟你請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].start |
8448.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].end |
8450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2949].text |
行政院已經核定調高教師1到7節的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].start |
8450.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].end |
8452.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2950].text |
終點費標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].start |
8452.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].end |
8454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2951].text |
我們不斷一直在倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].start |
8454.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].end |
8456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2952].text |
希望能夠幫老師爭取更多權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].start |
8456.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].end |
8458.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2953].text |
但是課後以及函署價並未同步調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].start |
8458.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].end |
8460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2954].text |
導致課內的終點費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].start |
8460.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].end |
8462.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[2955].text |
調高以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].start |
8461.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].end |
8463.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2956].text |
出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].start |
8463.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].end |
8465.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2957].text |
我們現在學習輔助的終點費 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].start |
8465.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].end |
8467.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2958].text |
偏低 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].start |
8467.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].end |
8469.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2959].text |
老師紛紛呼應 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].start |
8469.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].end |
8471.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2960].text |
我們也講了很多個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].start |
8471.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].end |
8473.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2961].text |
很多的老師不斷一直在私底下 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].start |
8473.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].end |
8475.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2962].text |
請我們繼續追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].start |
8475.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].end |
8477.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[2963].text |
請問這件事情什麼時候要辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].start |
8477.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].end |
8479.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2964].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].start |
8479.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].end |
8481.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2965].text |
因為課後的部分會涉及到家長的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].start |
8481.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].end |
8483.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2966].text |
所以我們先前也有跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].start |
8483.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].end |
8485.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2967].text |
地方家長這邊有做一些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].start |
8485.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].end |
8487.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2968].text |
但目前還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].start |
8487.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].end |
8489.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2969].text |
進一步的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].start |
8489.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].end |
8491.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2970].text |
什麼時候可以去做進一步的共識探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].start |
8491.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].end |
8493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2971].text |
因為老師的權益也很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].start |
8493.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].end |
8495.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2972].text |
對 老師的權益非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].start |
8495.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].end |
8497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2973].text |
這樣的一個付出我們也看到他的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].start |
8497.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].end |
8499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2974].text |
所以我們大概在6月9號開過第一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].start |
8499.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].end |
8501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2975].text |
跟縣市政府的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].start |
8501.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].end |
8503.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2976].text |
那共識度還 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].start |
8503.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].end |
8505.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2977].text |
需要再凝聚 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].start |
8505.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].end |
8507.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2978].text |
那我們7月還會再開一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].start |
8507.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].end |
8509.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2979].text |
那我們在這個暑假前 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].start |
8509.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].end |
8511.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2980].text |
會把縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].start |
8511.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].end |
8513.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2981].text |
甚至在地的家長的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].start |
8513.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].end |
8515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2982].text |
都設整完備之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].start |
8515.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].end |
8517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2983].text |
看看大家有更共識的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].start |
8517.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].end |
8519.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2984].text |
來處理到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].start |
8519.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].end |
8521.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[2985].text |
7月會再開第二次 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].start |
8521.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].end |
8523.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2986].text |
7月 加速進行 拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].start |
8523.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].end |
8525.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2987].text |
好不好 接下來要跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].start |
8525.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].end |
8527.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2988].text |
我們兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].start |
8527.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].end |
8529.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2989].text |
特別來拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].start |
8529.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].end |
8531.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2990].text |
我們來重視這相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].start |
8531.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].end |
8533.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[2991].text |
不管是校事會議 校園霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].start |
8535.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].end |
8537.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[2992].text |
我覺得師對生 生對師 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].start |
8538.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].end |
8540.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2993].text |
綜合的相關案件都應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].start |
8540.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].end |
8542.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2994].text |
予以尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].start |
8542.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].end |
8544.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2995].text |
公平處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].start |
8544.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].end |
8546.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[2996].text |
我們先來看PTT |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].start |
8546.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].end |
8548.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[2997].text |
我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].start |
8548.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].end |
8550.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2998].text |
有知名的網紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].start |
8550.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].end |
8552.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[2999].text |
所貼出的這一個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].start |
8552.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].end |
8554.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3000].text |
女老師被戳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].start |
8554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].end |
8556.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3001].text |
我們的屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].start |
8556.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].end |
8558.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3002].text |
反被逼離職 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].start |
8558.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].end |
8560.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3003].text |
我們可以看到這一個裡面的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].start |
8563.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].end |
8565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3004].text |
訪談五位同班學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].start |
8565.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].end |
8567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3005].text |
一致描述行為人士惡意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].start |
8567.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].end |
8569.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3006].text |
對不起 故意戳老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].start |
8571.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].end |
8573.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3007].text |
訪談五位同學生中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].start |
8573.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].end |
8575.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3008].text |
有三位提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].start |
8575.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].end |
8577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3009].text |
被行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].start |
8577.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].end |
8579.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3010].text |
有些問旁邊的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].start |
8579.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].end |
8581.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3011].text |
要不要戳老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].start |
8583.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].end |
8585.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3012].text |
眾上所述 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].start |
8585.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].end |
8587.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3013].text |
調查小組認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].start |
8587.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].end |
8589.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3014].text |
即使被行為人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].start |
8589.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].end |
8591.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3015].text |
是故意戳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].start |
8591.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].end |
8593.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3016].text |
行為人的屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].start |
8594.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].end |
8596.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3017].text |
甚至是直接啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].start |
8596.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].end |
8598.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3018].text |
這個我就不念了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].start |
8598.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].end |
8600.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3019].text |
身為老師還是不應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].start |
8600.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].end |
8602.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3020].text |
有傷害學生的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].start |
8602.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].end |
8604.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3021].text |
對於這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].start |
8605.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].end |
8607.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3022].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].start |
8607.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].end |
8609.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3023].text |
老師非常無奈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].start |
8609.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].end |
8611.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3024].text |
那你怎麼看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].start |
8611.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].end |
8613.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3025].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].start |
8613.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].end |
8615.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3026].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].start |
8615.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].end |
8617.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3027].text |
因為這是一三年的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].start |
8617.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].end |
8619.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3028].text |
所以我們會請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].start |
8619.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].end |
8621.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3029].text |
宜蘭縣政府這邊來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].start |
8621.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].end |
8623.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3030].text |
但是在今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].start |
8623.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].end |
8625.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3031].text |
一五年一月修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].start |
8625.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].end |
8627.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3032].text |
我們的教育體會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].start |
8627.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].end |
8629.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3033].text |
的辦法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].start |
8629.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].end |
8631.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3034].text |
對於如果在校事會的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].start |
8631.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].end |
8633.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3035].text |
有不當的主管機關是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].start |
8633.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].end |
8635.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3036].text |
退回學校去重啟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].start |
8635.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].end |
8637.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[3037].text |
你有沒有覺得不當 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].start |
8637.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].end |
8639.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3038].text |
這個部分我想因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].start |
8639.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].end |
8641.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3039].text |
這個審議結果你覺得合理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].start |
8641.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].end |
8643.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3040].text |
這部分要由主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].start |
8643.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].end |
8645.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3041].text |
他們可能要再去做一些審訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].start |
8645.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].end |
8647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3042].text |
跟重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].start |
8647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].end |
8649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3043].text |
那這個你有沒有覺得他應該重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].start |
8649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].end |
8651.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3044].text |
再做一個評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].start |
8651.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].end |
8653.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3045].text |
如果以我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].start |
8653.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].end |
8655.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3046].text |
因為這個案子這個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].start |
8655.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].end |
8657.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3047].text |
我沒有去看到他詳細的案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].start |
8657.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].end |
8659.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3048].text |
但如果以目前的這個部分來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].start |
8659.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].end |
8661.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3049].text |
確實主管機關有在審訊的必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].start |
8661.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].end |
8663.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3050].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].start |
8663.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].end |
8665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3051].text |
我們都要好好的重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].start |
8665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].end |
8667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3052].text |
這次校的體權教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].start |
8667.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].end |
8669.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3053].text |
到現在我們看到許多的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].start |
8669.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].end |
8671.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3054].text |
不斷的被放在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].start |
8671.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].end |
8673.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3055].text |
供大家來檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].start |
8673.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].end |
8675.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3056].text |
我們的校園到底怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].start |
8675.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].end |
8677.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3057].text |
我也要來讓你看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].start |
8677.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].end |
8679.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3058].text |
我們不要只看體權教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].start |
8679.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].end |
8681.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3059].text |
這樣子的一個韓劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].start |
8681.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].end |
8683.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3060].text |
我們來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].start |
8682.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].end |
8684.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3061].text |
真實各個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].start |
8684.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].end |
8686.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3062].text |
有沒有發生類似的問題他們怎麼來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].start |
8686.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].end |
8688.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3063].text |
我們來看下一個VDD |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].start |
8690.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].end |
8692.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3064].text |
台灣跟韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].start |
8692.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].end |
8694.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3065].text |
我想我們都有一個非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].start |
8694.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].end |
8696.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3066].text |
高相似度的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].start |
8696.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].end |
8698.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3067].text |
就是家長的投訴機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].start |
8700.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].end |
8702.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3068].text |
我們當然要給他們一個投訴機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].start |
8702.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].end |
8704.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3069].text |
但是有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].start |
8704.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].end |
8706.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3070].text |
去了解到是不是有失控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].start |
8706.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].end |
8708.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3071].text |
是不是有失公允 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].start |
8708.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].end |
8710.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3072].text |
那造成防禦性的教學蔓延 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].start |
8710.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].end |
8712.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3073].text |
教師的心理健康惡化 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].start |
8712.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].end |
8714.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3074].text |
所以韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].start |
8714.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].end |
8716.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3075].text |
在九年內 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].start |
8718.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].end |
8720.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3076].text |
網路的資料是寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].start |
8720.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].end |
8722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3077].text |
11600多名的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].start |
8722.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].end |
8724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3078].text |
遭家長以虐童的名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].start |
8724.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].end |
8726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3079].text |
來做檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].start |
8726.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].end |
8728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3080].text |
最終引爆2023年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].start |
8728.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].end |
8730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3081].text |
有教師自殺事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].start |
8730.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].end |
8732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3082].text |
促使立法回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].start |
8732.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].end |
8734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3083].text |
那台灣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].start |
8734.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].end |
8736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3084].text |
我想不用我再多說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].start |
8736.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].end |
8738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3085].text |
台灣的狀況近期也是非常的相似 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].start |
8738.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].end |
8740.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3086].text |
那我們看下一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].start |
8740.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].end |
8742.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3087].text |
在2023年他們的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].start |
8742.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].end |
8744.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3088].text |
的內容當中我們可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].start |
8744.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].end |
8746.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3089].text |
他們韓國修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].start |
8746.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].end |
8748.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3090].text |
的核心內容包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].start |
8748.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].end |
8750.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3091].text |
明文規定家長尊重教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].start |
8750.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].end |
8752.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3092].text |
的教育指導義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].start |
8753.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].end |
8755.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3093].text |
賦予校長處理家長投訴的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].start |
8757.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].end |
8759.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3094].text |
教師正當生活指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].start |
8759.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].end |
8761.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3095].text |
排除 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].start |
8762.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].end |
8764.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3096].text |
兒童福利法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].start |
8764.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].end |
8766.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3097].text |
不分禁止行為的適用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].start |
8766.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].end |
8768.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3098].text |
教師遭虐童檢舉時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].start |
8768.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].end |
8770.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3099].text |
禁止無正當理由的停止 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].start |
8770.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].end |
8772.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3100].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].start |
8772.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].end |
8774.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3101].text |
教育需立即的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].start |
8774.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].end |
8776.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3102].text |
迅速表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].start |
8778.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].end |
8780.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3103].text |
家長惡意投訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].start |
8780.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].end |
8782.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3104].text |
妨礙公務罪、誣告罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].start |
8782.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].end |
8784.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3105].text |
等納入侵害教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].start |
8784.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].end |
8786.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3106].text |
生活相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].start |
8786.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].end |
8788.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3107].text |
活動行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].start |
8787.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].end |
8789.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3108].text |
強化校長與教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].start |
8791.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].end |
8793.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3109].text |
他的應對機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].start |
8793.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].end |
8795.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3110].text |
擴大受害教師的保護跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].start |
8795.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].end |
8797.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3111].text |
復原資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].start |
8798.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].end |
8800.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3112].text |
我們上次有教師法三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].start |
8801.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].end |
8803.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3113].text |
將 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].start |
8802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].end |
8804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3114].text |
停聘 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].start |
8804.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].end |
8806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3115].text |
清白 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].start |
8806.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].end |
8808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3116].text |
本奉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].start |
8808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].end |
8810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3117].text |
研究加緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].start |
8810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].end |
8812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3118].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].start |
8812.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].end |
8814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3119].text |
我們看到其他的修法內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].start |
8813.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].end |
8815.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3120].text |
有沒有什麼我們可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].start |
8815.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].end |
8817.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3121].text |
我們可以參考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].start |
8817.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].end |
8819.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3122].text |
那您覺得呢? |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].start |
8819.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].end |
8821.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3123].text |
韓國的這個案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].start |
8821.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].end |
8823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3124].text |
我們在113年針對教師管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].start |
8823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].end |
8825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3125].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].start |
8825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].end |
8827.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3126].text |
有一個注意事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].start |
8827.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].end |
8829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3127].text |
裡面有針對說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].start |
8829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].end |
8831.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3128].text |
老師對於在教室發生一些不法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].start |
8831.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].end |
8833.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3129].text |
或是破壞的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].start |
8833.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].end |
8835.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3130].text |
他是可以採取一些必要的手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].start |
8835.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].end |
8837.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3131].text |
而且這些手段不會造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].start |
8837.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].end |
8839.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3132].text |
他因此受到阻罰 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].start |
8839.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].end |
8841.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3133].text |
有這樣的阻缺的事由 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].start |
8841.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].end |
8843.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3134].text |
我想這個部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].start |
8843.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].end |
8845.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3135].text |
做法也跟韓國的這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].start |
8845.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].end |
8847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3136].text |
是類似 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].start |
8847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].end |
8849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3137].text |
但是那個看起來就是一個指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].start |
8849.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].end |
8851.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[3138].text |
提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].start |
8850.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].end |
8852.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3139].text |
那有沒有辦法入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].start |
8852.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].end |
8854.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3140].text |
甚至有沒有機會在未來能夠更加完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].start |
8854.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].end |
8856.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3141].text |
這個我們是不是應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].start |
8856.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].end |
8858.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3142].text |
參考各個鄰近國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].start |
8858.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].end |
8860.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3143].text |
他們的做法我們來保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].start |
8860.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].end |
8862.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3144].text |
老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].start |
8862.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].end |
8864.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3145].text |
我也在這段時間不斷的在探尋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].start |
8864.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].end |
8866.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3146].text |
很多的家長團體也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].start |
8866.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].end |
8868.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3147].text |
教師團體也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].start |
8868.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].end |
8870.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3148].text |
我們不斷的了解他們意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].start |
8870.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].end |
8872.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3149].text |
其實我們也看到許多的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].start |
8872.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].end |
8874.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3150].text |
在反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].start |
8874.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].end |
8876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3151].text |
他們支持持續的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].start |
8876.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].end |
8878.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3152].text |
能夠讓公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].start |
8879.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].end |
8881.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3153].text |
這個部分能夠繼續的在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].start |
8881.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].end |
8883.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3154].text |
校園的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].start |
8883.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].end |
8885.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3155].text |
能夠真正的落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].start |
8885.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].end |
8887.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3156].text |
所以他們並不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].start |
8888.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].end |
8890.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3157].text |
也全然的接受現階段的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].start |
8890.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].end |
8892.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3158].text |
校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].start |
8893.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].end |
8895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3159].text |
所以我要再一次詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].start |
8895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].end |
8897.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3160].text |
你們一直在講你們在滾動式修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].start |
8897.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].end |
8899.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3161].text |
有沒有具體的修正版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].start |
8899.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].end |
8901.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3162].text |
還有公佈期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].start |
8901.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].end |
8903.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3163].text |
是 跟我們報告因為在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].start |
8903.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].end |
8905.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3164].text |
今年1月公佈之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].start |
8905.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].end |
8907.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3165].text |
我們有說有半年時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].start |
8907.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].end |
8909.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3166].text |
我們在7月份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].start |
8909.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].end |
8911.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3167].text |
會針對我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].start |
8911.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].end |
8913.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3168].text |
這半年以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].start |
8913.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].end |
8915.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3169].text |
7月有沒有大概具體幾號 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].start |
8916.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].end |
8918.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3170].text |
我們在7月中以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].start |
8919.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].end |
8921.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3171].text |
7月中會有一個分析檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].start |
8921.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].end |
8923.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3172].text |
7月中我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].start |
8923.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].end |
8925.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3173].text |
這個分析檢討真的要讓我們都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].start |
8925.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].end |
8927.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3174].text |
一下 那有沒有朝向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].start |
8927.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].end |
8929.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3175].text |
更進一步怎麼樣的一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].start |
8929.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].end |
8931.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3176].text |
比如說現階段教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].start |
8931.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].end |
8933.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3177].text |
還是對於匿名檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].start |
8933.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].end |
8935.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3178].text |
這個部分還是很有意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].start |
8935.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].end |
8937.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3179].text |
匿名檢舉能不能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].start |
8937.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].end |
8939.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3180].text |
有更公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].start |
8939.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].end |
8941.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3181].text |
一個做法 這部分可以回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].start |
8941.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].end |
8943.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3182].text |
一下嗎 好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].start |
8943.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].end |
8945.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3183].text |
我針對剛剛委員提點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].start |
8945.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].end |
8947.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3184].text |
的 我們接下來也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].start |
8947.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].end |
8949.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3185].text |
針對剛剛提到在教師管教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].start |
8949.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].end |
8951.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3186].text |
的部分 會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].start |
8951.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].end |
8953.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3187].text |
更明確的 是不是可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].start |
8953.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].end |
8955.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3188].text |
委員剛剛提示的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].start |
8955.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].end |
8957.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3189].text |
剛剛提示你說另外要參考的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].start |
8957.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].end |
8959.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3190].text |
我說教師會議的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].start |
8959.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].end |
8961.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3191].text |
你們要朝向哪裡修正 可不可以跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].start |
8961.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].end |
8963.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3192].text |
先預告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].start |
8962.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].end |
8964.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3193].text |
其實我們 現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].start |
8964.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].end |
8966.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3194].text |
刪除那個匿名檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].start |
8966.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].end |
8968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3195].text |
是不受理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].start |
8968.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].end |
8970.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3196].text |
也分流了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].start |
8970.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].end |
8972.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3197].text |
可是我聽到教師第一線的回饋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].start |
8972.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].end |
8974.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3198].text |
教師團體還是說他們還是實際有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].start |
8974.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].end |
8976.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3199].text |
匿名檢舉的狀況喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].start |
8976.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].end |
8978.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3200].text |
所以是不是溝通上有誤解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].start |
8978.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].end |
8980.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3201].text |
還是你的政策並沒有寫得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].start |
8980.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].end |
8982.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3202].text |
很完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].start |
8982.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].end |
8984.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3203].text |
我想我們會跟地方政府收集相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].start |
8984.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].end |
8986.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3204].text |
成案的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].start |
8986.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].end |
8988.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3205].text |
因為上次也有委員提到嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].start |
8988.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].end |
8990.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3206].text |
小朋友在網路上教大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].start |
8990.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].end |
8992.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3207].text |
老師不爽 可以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].start |
8992.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].end |
8994.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3208].text |
隨便檢舉他性評相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].start |
8994.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].end |
8996.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3209].text |
可是這個部分的網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].start |
8996.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].end |
8998.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3210].text |
檢舉的方式也還是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].start |
8998.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].end |
9000.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3211].text |
匿名的狀況啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].start |
9000.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].end |
9002.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3212].text |
那這個部分到底有沒有去修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].start |
9002.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].end |
9004.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3213].text |
可不可以朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].start |
9004.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].end |
9006.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3214].text |
7月的時候能夠有這樣更具體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].start |
9006.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].end |
9008.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3215].text |
我們一片再拉到我們的檢討分析裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].start |
9008.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].end |
9010.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3216].text |
我想老師的身心健康的權益保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].start |
9012.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].end |
9014.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3217].text |
家庭教育的加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].start |
9014.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].end |
9016.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3218].text |
是 離炫權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].start |
9016.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].end |
9018.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3219].text |
能夠更落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].start |
9018.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].end |
9020.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3220].text |
能夠有一個指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].start |
9020.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].end |
9022.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[3221].text |
甚至入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].start |
9022.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].end |
9024.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3222].text |
行政減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].start |
9024.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].end |
9026.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3223].text |
能不能入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].start |
9026.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].end |
9028.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3224].text |
這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].start |
9027.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].end |
9029.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[3225].text |
您的態度是如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].start |
9029.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].end |
9031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3226].text |
跟我們報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].start |
9031.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].end |
9033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3227].text |
法規面 作用法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].start |
9033.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].end |
9035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3228].text |
基本上大概都是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].start |
9035.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].end |
9037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3229].text |
讓他有些彈性來做調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].start |
9037.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].end |
9039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3230].text |
所以要不要入法這個事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].start |
9039.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].end |
9041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3231].text |
我們可以來評估研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].start |
9041.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].end |
9043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3232].text |
我希望你們要好好的具體的去研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].start |
9043.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].end |
9045.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3233].text |
那是不是能夠隨著 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].start |
9045.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].end |
9047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3234].text |
這一段時間到7月15的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].start |
9047.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].end |
9049.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3235].text |
能夠有一個研議報告讓我們知道一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].start |
9050.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].end |
9052.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3236].text |
7月15我們想知道你們的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].start |
9052.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].end |
9054.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3237].text |
那另外我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].start |
9054.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].end |
9056.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3238].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].start |
9056.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].end |
9058.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3239].text |
署長在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].start |
9058.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].end |
9060.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3240].text |
我們教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].start |
9060.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].end |
9062.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3241].text |
到日本考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].start |
9062.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].end |
9064.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3242].text |
我必須坦白講你有幾個舉動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].start |
9065.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].end |
9067.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3243].text |
我很感動 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].start |
9067.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].end |
9069.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3244].text |
我看著你跟我們一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].start |
9070.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].end |
9072.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3245].text |
蹲在那邊 近距離的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].start |
9072.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].end |
9074.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3246].text |
接觸孩童 去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].start |
9075.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].end |
9077.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3247].text |
他們的教學過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].start |
9077.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].end |
9079.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3248].text |
然後不斷的在做筆記 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].start |
9079.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].end |
9081.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3249].text |
在旁邊看我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].start |
9081.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].end |
9083.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3250].text |
我覺得真的是非常的動人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].start |
9084.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].end |
9086.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3251].text |
我也一直不斷的跟所有委員分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].start |
9086.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].end |
9088.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3252].text |
其實你是蠻認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].start |
9088.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].end |
9090.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[3253].text |
第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].start |
9090.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].end |
9092.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3254].text |
其實剛好我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].start |
9092.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].end |
9094.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3255].text |
享受校園營養午餐的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].start |
9094.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].end |
9096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3256].text |
我跟你分配在同一組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].start |
9096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].end |
9098.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3257].text |
我不知道你還記得嗎 我就坐在你後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].start |
9098.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].end |
9100.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3258].text |
我看著你不斷的在透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].start |
9100.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].end |
9102.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[3259].text |
翻譯軟體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].start |
9102.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].end |
9104.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3260].text |
跟孩子詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].start |
9104.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].end |
9106.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3261].text |
除了營養午餐之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].start |
9106.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].end |
9108.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3262].text |
你還記得你問一題嗎 你問上課時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].start |
9110.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].end |
9112.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3263].text |
幾點上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].start |
9112.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].end |
9114.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3264].text |
放學的時間 透過去訪談 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].start |
9115.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].end |
9117.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3265].text |
這些日本的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].start |
9117.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].end |
9119.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3266].text |
去了解我們的教學環境的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].start |
9120.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].end |
9122.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3267].text |
其實我也都在觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].start |
9122.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].end |
9124.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3268].text |
因為我們更希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].start |
9124.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].end |
9126.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3269].text |
你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].start |
9125.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].end |
9127.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3270].text |
有別於立法委員的重要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].start |
9127.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].end |
9129.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3271].text |
你是行政權的代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].start |
9129.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].end |
9131.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3272].text |
第一線去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].start |
9131.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].end |
9133.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3273].text |
執行的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].start |
9133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].end |
9135.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3274].text |
那我也想問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].start |
9135.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].end |
9137.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3275].text |
那你覺得營養午餐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].start |
9137.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].end |
9139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3276].text |
實際跟日本執行的政策當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].start |
9141.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].end |
9143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3277].text |
就我所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].start |
9143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].end |
9145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3278].text |
跟我們之前所接觸到的資料不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].start |
9145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].end |
9147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3279].text |
那你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].start |
9147.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].end |
9149.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3280].text |
我們看了兩種形態 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].start |
9149.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].end |
9151.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3281].text |
哪一種是在一個小學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].start |
9151.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].end |
9153.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3282].text |
他是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].start |
9153.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].end |
9155.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3283].text |
傳統我們聽的比較多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].start |
9155.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].end |
9157.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3284].text |
叫給食中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].start |
9157.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].end |
9159.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[3285].text |
另外我們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].start |
9159.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].end |
9161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3286].text |
東京的一個特別區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].start |
9161.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].end |
9163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3287].text |
它有23個特別區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].start |
9163.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].end |
9165.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3288].text |
是用區裡面的各校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].start |
9166.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].end |
9168.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3289].text |
但它不是給食中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].start |
9168.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].end |
9170.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3290].text |
是各校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].start |
9169.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].end |
9171.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3291].text |
自己來供應的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].start |
9171.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].end |
9173.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3292].text |
這個就跟我們一般文獻上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].start |
9173.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].end |
9175.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3293].text |
比較少談到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].start |
9175.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].end |
9177.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3294].text |
以為日本絕大多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].start |
9177.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].end |
9179.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3295].text |
或是比較多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].start |
9179.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].end |
9181.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3296].text |
是給食中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].start |
9181.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].end |
9183.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3297].text |
所以到實地之後發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].start |
9183.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].end |
9185.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3298].text |
還是有很多學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].start |
9185.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].end |
9187.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3299].text |
如我們也是學校自辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].start |
9187.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].end |
9189.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3300].text |
接著即便是給食中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].start |
9189.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].end |
9191.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3301].text |
它怎麼運作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].start |
9191.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].end |
9193.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3302].text |
給食中心的相關編制也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].start |
9195.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].end |
9197.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3303].text |
食安管理也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].start |
9196.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].end |
9198.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3304].text |
或是小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].start |
9198.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].end |
9200.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3305].text |
實際在吃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].start |
9200.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].end |
9202.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3306].text |
倒數 餐的倒數也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].start |
9202.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].end |
9204.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3307].text |
以及小朋友實際在教室內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].start |
9204.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].end |
9206.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3308].text |
飲食教育也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].start |
9206.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].end |
9208.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3309].text |
這些大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].start |
9208.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].end |
9210.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3310].text |
實際看了之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].start |
9210.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].end |
9212.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3311].text |
跟我們文獻所直接看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].start |
9212.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].end |
9214.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3312].text |
會有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].start |
9214.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].end |
9216.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3313].text |
相對照現場的實際情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].start |
9216.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].end |
9218.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3314].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].start |
9218.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].end |
9220.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3315].text |
所以你覺得有差距嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].start |
9220.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].end |
9222.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3316].text |
跟過往的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].start |
9222.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].end |
9224.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3317].text |
跟現場狀況有差距嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].start |
9224.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].end |
9226.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3318].text |
現場看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].start |
9226.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].end |
9228.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3319].text |
跟過往做個對照 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].start |
9228.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].end |
9230.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3320].text |
也可以看到過往很多團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].start |
9230.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].end |
9232.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3321].text |
去縣市自己去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].start |
9232.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].end |
9234.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3322].text |
他們可能會看到自己的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].start |
9234.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].end |
9236.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3323].text |
也許縣市的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].start |
9236.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].end |
9238.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3324].text |
我們會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].start |
9238.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].end |
9240.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3325].text |
縣市的角色 學校的角色 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].start |
9240.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].end |
9242.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3326].text |
以及甚至文部省的角色等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].start |
9242.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].end |
9244.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3327].text |
所以我覺得實際看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].start |
9244.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].end |
9246.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3328].text |
能夠更加的有所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].start |
9246.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].end |
9248.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3329].text |
在執行狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].start |
9248.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].end |
9250.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3330].text |
另外我們在看AI教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].start |
9250.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].end |
9252.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3331].text |
ICT教育的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].start |
9252.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].end |
9254.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3332].text |
對於他們的私生比 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].start |
9255.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].end |
9257.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3333].text |
你覺得呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].start |
9285.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].end |
9287.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3334].text |
各別化指導等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].start |
9287.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].end |
9289.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3335].text |
也做了一些現場的互動探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].start |
9289.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].end |
9291.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3336].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].start |
9291.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].end |
9293.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3337].text |
一個班將近20位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].start |
9293.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].end |
9295.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3338].text |
分成三組 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].start |
9297.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].end |
9299.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3339].text |
三組平均大概六個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].start |
9299.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].end |
9301.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3340].text |
小朋友左右六到七個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].start |
9303.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].end |
9305.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3341].text |
六到七個小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].start |
9305.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].end |
9307.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3342].text |
面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].start |
9306.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].end |
9308.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3343].text |
兩個老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].start |
9308.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].end |
9310.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3344].text |
一個主要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].start |
9310.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].end |
9312.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[3345].text |
一個輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].start |
9311.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].end |
9313.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3346].text |
還有一個大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].start |
9313.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].end |
9315.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3347].text |
學生 私生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].start |
9315.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].end |
9317.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[3348].text |
幫忙來做輔助協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].start |
9319.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].end |
9321.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3349].text |
這個私生比 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].start |
9320.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].end |
9322.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3350].text |
我們也嚇一跳 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].start |
9322.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].end |
9324.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3351].text |
幾乎是1比2 1比3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].start |
9325.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].end |
9327.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3352].text |
當然他們覺得私性教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].start |
9327.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].end |
9329.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3353].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].start |
9329.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].end |
9331.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3354].text |
分級 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].start |
9331.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].end |
9333.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3355].text |
甚至是能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].start |
9333.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].end |
9335.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3356].text |
高強度的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].start |
9334.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].end |
9336.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3357].text |
對陣來下藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].start |
9336.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].end |
9338.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3358].text |
甚至是因材施教 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].start |
9338.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].end |
9340.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3359].text |
我覺得這個都是我們帶行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].start |
9340.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].end |
9342.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3360].text |
帶國家署署長去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].start |
9343.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].end |
9345.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3361].text |
我們可以有所加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].start |
9345.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].end |
9347.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3362].text |
當然能不能達到1比2 1比3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].start |
9347.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].end |
9349.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3363].text |
對我們來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].start |
9349.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].end |
9351.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3364].text |
有很大的差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].start |
9351.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].end |
9353.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3365].text |
但是他們為什麼這麼的重視教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].start |
9353.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].end |
9355.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3366].text |
我覺得我們實際去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].start |
9354.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].end |
9356.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3367].text |
所以我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].start |
9356.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].end |
9358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3368].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].start |
9358.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].end |
9360.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3369].text |
包括不管是AI ICT |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].start |
9360.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].end |
9362.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3370].text |
我們看到地線的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].start |
9362.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].end |
9364.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3371].text |
然後我們也去拜訪了私校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].start |
9363.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].end |
9365.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3372].text |
剛剛那個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].start |
9365.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].end |
9367.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3373].text |
不是私校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].start |
9367.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].end |
9369.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3374].text |
也拜訪了私校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].start |
9369.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].end |
9371.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3375].text |
還有營養午餐的一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].start |
9371.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].end |
9373.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3376].text |
是不是有機會你也要如實的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].start |
9373.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].end |
9375.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3377].text |
跟不管部長 次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].start |
9375.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].end |
9377.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3378].text |
來轉達 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].start |
9377.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].end |
9379.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3379].text |
跟過往我們所看到的文獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].start |
9379.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].end |
9381.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3380].text |
我之前看到的文獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].start |
9381.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].end |
9383.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3381].text |
基本上也都是疫情前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].start |
9383.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].end |
9385.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3382].text |
有一段距離 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].start |
9385.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].end |
9387.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3383].text |
那我們希望實際的教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].start |
9387.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].end |
9389.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3384].text |
場域所遇到他們的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].start |
9389.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].end |
9391.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3385].text |
能夠如實的來跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].start |
9391.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].end |
9393.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3386].text |
次長 部長來反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].start |
9393.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].end |
9395.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3387].text |
尤其原本張廖萬間次長要跟我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].start |
9395.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].end |
9397.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3388].text |
但是他因故 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].start |
9397.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].end |
9399.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3389].text |
有請假 這部分希望你能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].start |
9399.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].end |
9401.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3390].text |
如實的轉達 讓他們知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].start |
9401.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].end |
9403.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3391].text |
我們在營養午餐的推進上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].start |
9403.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].end |
9405.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3392].text |
包括我們一直在講的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].start |
9405.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].end |
9407.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3393].text |
營養師的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].start |
9407.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].end |
9409.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3394].text |
他們的營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].start |
9409.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].end |
9411.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3395].text |
是不是也跟我們不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].start |
9412.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].end |
9414.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3396].text |
就是說原來我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].start |
9414.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].end |
9416.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3397].text |
認為日本可能有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].start |
9416.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].end |
9418.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3398].text |
依法用550比1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].start |
9418.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].end |
9420.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3399].text |
現場了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].start |
9420.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].end |
9422.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3400].text |
比例上倒還是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].start |
9422.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].end |
9424.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3401].text |
彈性 有一點彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].start |
9424.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].end |
9426.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3402].text |
但是委員可能稍微想要講到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].start |
9426.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].end |
9428.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3403].text |
營養教師這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].start |
9428.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].end |
9430.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3404].text |
營養教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].start |
9430.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].end |
9432.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3405].text |
他有雙證 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].start |
9432.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].end |
9434.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3406].text |
因此他進行營養業務時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].start |
9434.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].end |
9436.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3407].text |
他因為還有教師的license |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].start |
9436.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].end |
9438.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3408].text |
因此他在營養教育上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].start |
9438.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].end |
9440.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3409].text |
他是有這個權利的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].start |
9440.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].end |
9442.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3410].text |
營養教育他不是營養師喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].start |
9442.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].end |
9444.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3411].text |
他只是另外一個證書而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].start |
9444.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].end |
9446.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3412].text |
然後獲得營養教育的一個工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].start |
9446.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].end |
9448.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3413].text |
權利的授予 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].start |
9448.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].end |
9450.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3414].text |
那小朋友也多鼓勵他們吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].start |
9451.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].end |
9453.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3415].text |
家長無法提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].start |
9453.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].end |
9455.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3416].text |
飲食內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].start |
9455.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].end |
9457.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3417].text |
比如說他們就很堅持希望能夠提供魚類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].start |
9458.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].end |
9460.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3418].text |
因為學生回到家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].start |
9460.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].end |
9462.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3419].text |
不太會攝取魚類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].start |
9462.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].end |
9464.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3420].text |
那他們為了提供魚類 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].start |
9464.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].end |
9466.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3421].text |
就會有魚刺的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].start |
9466.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].end |
9468.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3422].text |
他們還特別教國小第一年級的小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].start |
9468.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].end |
9470.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3423].text |
要如何實用秋刀魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].start |
9470.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].end |
9472.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3424].text |
拍攝影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].start |
9472.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].end |
9474.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3425].text |
教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].start |
9474.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].end |
9476.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3426].text |
所以這個部分都是我們教學環境上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].start |
9476.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].end |
9478.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3427].text |
我們在做食農教育也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].start |
9478.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].end |
9480.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3428].text |
我們在做飲食禮儀的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].start |
9480.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].end |
9482.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3429].text |
介紹也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].start |
9482.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].end |
9484.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3430].text |
這都是值得我們參考的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].start |
9484.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].end |
9486.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3431].text |
我想當下我也跟署長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].start |
9486.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].end |
9488.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3432].text |
署長這個我也要希望你現場能夠承諾我 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].start |
9488.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].end |
9490.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3433].text |
我們不斷的在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].start |
9490.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].end |
9492.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3434].text |
在實用營養午餐的前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].start |
9492.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].end |
9494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3435].text |
可不可以做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].start |
9494.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].end |
9496.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3436].text |
簡單的飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].start |
9496.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].end |
9498.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3437].text |
我們今天攝取多少蛋白 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].start |
9498.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].end |
9500.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3438].text |
今天所吃的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].start |
9500.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].end |
9502.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3439].text |
它的故事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].start |
9502.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].end |
9504.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3440].text |
它的原產地在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].start |
9504.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].end |
9506.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3441].text |
能夠做基本的廣播 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].start |
9509.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].end |
9511.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3442].text |
分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].start |
9511.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].end |
9513.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3443].text |
或者是同學上台講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].start |
9513.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].end |
9515.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3444].text |
一分鐘用餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].start |
9515.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].end |
9517.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3445].text |
讓孩子知道他平常吃的東西的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].start |
9517.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].end |
9519.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3446].text |
學校也會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].start |
9519.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].end |
9521.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3447].text |
學生也會回到家裡跟家長分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].start |
9521.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].end |
9523.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3448].text |
家長也會安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].start |
9523.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].end |
9525.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3449].text |
營養午餐的內容他大概知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].start |
9525.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].end |
9527.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3450].text |
這個不用花到預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].start |
9526.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].end |
9528.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[3451].text |
那我們可不可以做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].start |
9528.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].end |
9530.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3452].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].start |
9530.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].end |
9532.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3453].text |
這因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].start |
9532.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].end |
9534.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3454].text |
委員講了之後我們也去思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].start |
9534.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].end |
9536.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3455].text |
他的運作的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].start |
9536.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].end |
9538.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3456].text |
這會涉及到22縣市跟9萬個班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].start |
9538.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].end |
9540.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3457].text |
那我們再看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].start |
9540.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].end |
9542.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3458].text |
怎麼樣可以讓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].start |
9542.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].end |
9544.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3459].text |
在行政不必加量 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].start |
9544.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].end |
9546.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3460].text |
這個我要強調不要找老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].start |
9546.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].end |
9548.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3461].text |
所以我們看到日本的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].start |
9548.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].end |
9550.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3462].text |
他們是有廣播 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].start |
9550.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].end |
9552.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3463].text |
廣播的聲音你一聽也知道是小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].start |
9552.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].end |
9554.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3464].text |
再來當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].start |
9554.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].end |
9556.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3465].text |
還有一個部分班長或者是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].start |
9556.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].end |
9558.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3466].text |
體育股長他們小朋友上台 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].start |
9558.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].end |
9560.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3467].text |
分享 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].start |
9560.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].end |
9562.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3468].text |
這也是訓練講話的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].start |
9562.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].end |
9564.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3469].text |
當然最直接的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].start |
9564.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].end |
9566.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3470].text |
也可以所謂的外散業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].start |
9566.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].end |
9568.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3471].text |
來錄音廣播內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].start |
9568.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].end |
9570.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3472].text |
然後來播放 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].start |
9570.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].end |
9572.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3473].text |
這個也都不用去麻煩老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].start |
9572.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].end |
9574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3474].text |
所以我覺得沒有人力的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].start |
9574.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].end |
9576.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3475].text |
也沒有所謂的預算的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].start |
9576.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].end |
9578.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3476].text |
我們看如何落實所以在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].start |
9578.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].end |
9580.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3477].text |
我們看到日本實際操作的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].start |
9580.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].end |
9582.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3478].text |
我也希望我們要有所改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].start |
9582.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].end |
9584.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3479].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].start |
9584.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].end |
9586.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3480].text |
謝謝委員我們現在整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].start |
9586.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].end |
9588.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3481].text |
會讓委員知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].start |
9588.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].end |
9590.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3482].text |
有一些經過探訪 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].start |
9590.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].end |
9592.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3483].text |
詳細了解之後的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].start |
9592.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].end |
9594.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3484].text |
那當然也一定會跟班長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].start |
9594.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].end |
9596.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3485].text |
做完整的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].start |
9596.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].end |
9598.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3486].text |
一個月內給我相關資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].start |
9598.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].end |
9600.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3487].text |
可以嗎 沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].start |
9600.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].end |
9602.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3488].text |
羅志祥委員也有參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].start |
9602.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].end |
9604.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3489].text |
我覺得大家都感覺非常有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].start |
9604.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].end |
9606.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3490].text |
也希望說實際帶回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].start |
9606.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].end |
9608.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3491].text |
我們有所改變好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].start |
9608.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].end |
9610.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[3492].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].start |
9626.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].end |
9628.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3493].text |
好謝謝我們下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].start |
9628.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].end |
9630.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3494].text |
有請羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].start |
9641.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].end |
9643.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3495].text |
有請彭署長跟朱次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].start |
9648.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].end |
9650.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3496].text |
謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].start |
9651.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].end |
9653.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3497].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].start |
9652.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].end |
9654.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3498].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].start |
9654.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].end |
9656.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3499].text |
我想先請教署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].start |
9657.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].end |
9661.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[3500].text |
在這邊我覺得我必須幫我們的召委羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].start |
9661.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].end |
9663.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3501].text |
幫他還一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].start |
9664.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].end |
9666.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3502].text |
我先講幾件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].start |
9666.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].end |
9668.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3503].text |
我想請問我們次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].start |
9668.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].end |
9670.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3504].text |
你知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].start |
9670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].end |
9672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3505].text |
立法院各委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].start |
9672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].end |
9674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3506].text |
其實在會期當中考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].start |
9674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].end |
9676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3507].text |
是很平常的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].start |
9676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].end |
9678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3508].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].start |
9678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].end |
9680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3509].text |
沒錯嘛 有分過出國考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].start |
9680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].end |
9682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3510].text |
國內考察都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].start |
9682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].end |
9684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3511].text |
對不對 不管是哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].start |
9684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].end |
9686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3512].text |
政黨擔任召委考察都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].start |
9686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].end |
9688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3513].text |
有的 國內的也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].start |
9688.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].end |
9690.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[3514].text |
這個出國的也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].start |
9690.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].end |
9692.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3515].text |
那作為立法政策行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].start |
9692.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].end |
9694.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3516].text |
你第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].start |
9694.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].end |
9696.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3517].text |
你現在要做實地的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].start |
9696.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].end |
9698.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3518].text |
包括國內的很多考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].start |
9698.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].end |
9700.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3519].text |
你也包括要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].start |
9700.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].end |
9702.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3520].text |
其他國家的經驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].start |
9702.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].end |
9704.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3521].text |
所謂的一個探求 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].start |
9704.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].end |
9706.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3522].text |
追究國際的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].start |
9707.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].end |
9709.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3523].text |
那我今天真的非常非常遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].start |
9710.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].end |
9712.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3524].text |
真的非常遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].start |
9712.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].end |
9718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3525].text |
羅廷瑋召委安排到日本的營養午餐的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].start |
9718.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].end |
9720.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3526].text |
我們非常感謝我們的署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].start |
9720.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].end |
9722.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[3527].text |
也有一起參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].start |
9722.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].end |
9724.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3528].text |
這個考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].start |
9724.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].end |
9726.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3529].text |
收獲勝風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].start |
9726.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].end |
9728.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3530].text |
待會我會一一來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].start |
9728.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].end |
9730.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3531].text |
收獲勝風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].start |
9729.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].end |
9731.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3532].text |
但是卻在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].start |
9730.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].end |
9732.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3533].text |
我們民進黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].start |
9733.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].end |
9735.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3534].text |
的攻擊之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].start |
9735.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].end |
9737.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3535].text |
變成薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].start |
9737.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].end |
9739.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3536].text |
第一件事我就要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].start |
9739.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].end |
9741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3537].text |
請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].start |
9741.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].end |
9743.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3538].text |
我想請問次長或署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].start |
9743.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].end |
9745.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3539].text |
這個日本的考察有拿到教育部的經費嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].start |
9745.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].end |
9747.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3540].text |
有用教育部的公費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].start |
9747.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].end |
9749.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3541].text |
來出國嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].start |
9749.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].end |
9751.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3542].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].start |
9751.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].end |
9753.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3543].text |
立法院的也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].start |
9753.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].end |
9755.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[3544].text |
羅廷瑋召委在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].start |
9756.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].end |
9758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3545].text |
公佈今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].start |
9758.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].end |
9760.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3546].text |
調查立委的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].start |
9761.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].end |
9763.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3547].text |
到日本考察的這個調查表 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].start |
9763.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].end |
9765.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3548].text |
第一章發出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].start |
9765.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].end |
9767.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3549].text |
上面就寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].start |
9767.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].end |
9769.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3550].text |
所有的經費請委員治理 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].start |
9769.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].end |
9771.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3551].text |
請委員自行負擔經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].start |
9772.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].end |
9774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3552].text |
包括機票住宿 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].start |
9774.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].end |
9776.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[3553].text |
甚至我相信署長您知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].start |
9778.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].end |
9780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3554].text |
我們到日本去吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].start |
9780.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].end |
9782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3555].text |
跟小朋友並桌吃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].start |
9782.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].end |
9784.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3556].text |
營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].start |
9783.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].end |
9785.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3557].text |
請問我們吃的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].start |
9785.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].end |
9787.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3558].text |
誰輸了錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].start |
9787.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].end |
9789.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3559].text |
也是立委自己出了錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].start |
9790.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].end |
9792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3560].text |
羅廷瑋召委還堅持要付費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].start |
9792.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].end |
9794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3561].text |
堅持要付費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].start |
9794.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].end |
9796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3562].text |
就抱歉這個是我們到人家學校吃的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].start |
9796.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].end |
9798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3563].text |
就按照他們的收費標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].start |
9798.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].end |
9800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3564].text |
我們所有委員就要出錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].start |
9800.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].end |
9802.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[3565].text |
就要付費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].start |
9803.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].end |
9805.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3566].text |
做到這個程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].start |
9805.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].end |
9807.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3567].text |
民進黨開記者會說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].start |
9807.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].end |
9809.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3568].text |
這用公費考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].start |
9809.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].end |
9811.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[3569].text |
薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].start |
9811.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].end |
9813.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[3570].text |
我想請教民進黨要不要道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].start |
9814.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].end |
9816.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3571].text |
我們先不講出國考察民進黨也有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].start |
9816.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].end |
9818.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3572].text |
拿公費的都有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].start |
9820.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].end |
9822.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3573].text |
民進黨不要跟我講說你沒有拿公費的書 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].start |
9822.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].end |
9824.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3574].text |
我考察過 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].start |
9824.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].end |
9826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3575].text |
你國內考察國外考察都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].start |
9826.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].end |
9828.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3576].text |
拿公費的也都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].start |
9829.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].end |
9831.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3577].text |
結果羅廷瑋委員從出發第一刻跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].start |
9831.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].end |
9833.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[3578].text |
這一場是自費 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].start |
9834.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].end |
9836.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3579].text |
自費去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].start |
9837.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].end |
9839.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3580].text |
結果民進黨竟然可以開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].start |
9839.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].end |
9841.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3581].text |
雙標到這種程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].start |
9841.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].end |
9843.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3582].text |
我這邊必須還給羅廷瑋 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].start |
9843.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].end |
9845.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3583].text |
一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].start |
9845.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].end |
9847.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3584].text |
那接下來我就要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].start |
9847.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].end |
9849.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3585].text |
我想請署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].start |
9850.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].end |
9852.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3586].text |
我必須說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].start |
9852.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].end |
9854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3587].text |
這次去我真的對署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].start |
9854.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].end |
9856.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3588].text |
我真的非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].start |
9856.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].end |
9858.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3589].text |
表示崇高的敬意 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].start |
9858.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].end |
9860.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3590].text |
因為整個過程我們看在眼裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].start |
9860.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].end |
9862.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[3591].text |
你非常認真在 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].start |
9862.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].end |
9864.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3592].text |
向日本來取經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].start |
9865.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].end |
9867.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[3593].text |
日本的營養午餐是專法吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3594].start |
9867.48 |
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9869.48 |
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對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].start |
9868.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].end |
9870.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3595].text |
他們實施了非常久 |
| transcript.whisperx[3596].start |
9870.99 |
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9872.99 |
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二三十年以上了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].start |
9874.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].end |
9876.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3597].text |
有個參考的價 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].start |
9876.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].end |
9878.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[3598].text |
1954 1968 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].start |
9879.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].end |
9881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3599].text |
所以他們是 |
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9881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].end |
9883.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3600].text |
是最早來做營養午餐專法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].start |
9884.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].end |
9886.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3601].text |
那第二個我們在實際考察過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].start |
9886.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].end |
9888.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3602].text |
我有幾樣東西我印象很深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].start |
9888.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].end |
9890.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3603].text |
就剛剛羅廷瑋委員也講到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].start |
9890.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].end |
9892.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3604].text |
我們有去跟日本的小學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].start |
9892.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].end |
9894.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3605].text |
一起吃營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].start |
9894.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].end |
9896.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3606].text |
吃營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].start |
9898.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].end |
9900.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3607].text |
我想問一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].start |
9900.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].end |
9902.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3608].text |
有一件事我印象很深刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].start |
9902.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].end |
9904.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3609].text |
請問我們台灣的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].start |
9904.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].end |
9906.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3610].text |
通常是幾菜幾湯幾主食 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].start |
9906.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].end |
9908.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3611].text |
原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].start |
9908.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].end |
9910.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3612].text |
三菜一湯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].start |
9910.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].end |
9912.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3613].text |
有時候有一水果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].start |
9912.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].end |
9914.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3614].text |
邊鄉地區還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].start |
9914.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].end |
9916.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3615].text |
可能的點心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].start |
9916.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].end |
9918.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3616].text |
然後牛奶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].start |
9918.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].end |
9920.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3617].text |
要看情況嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].start |
9920.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].end |
9922.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3618].text |
那我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].start |
9922.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].end |
9924.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3619].text |
去日本幾菜幾湯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].start |
9924.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].end |
9926.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3620].text |
我們這次去幾菜幾湯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].start |
9926.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].end |
9928.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3621].text |
一湯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].start |
9928.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].end |
9930.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3622].text |
然後有一個牛奶 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].start |
9930.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].end |
9932.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3623].text |
那天剛好有水果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].start |
9932.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].end |
9934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3624].text |
他說一年大概兩次水果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].start |
9934.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].end |
9936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3625].text |
剛好比較少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].start |
9936.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].end |
9938.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3626].text |
那我要特別講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].start |
9940.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].end |
9942.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3627].text |
這就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].start |
9942.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].end |
9944.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3628].text |
我們有在現場問為什麼他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].start |
9944.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].end |
9946.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3629].text |
所謂的菜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].start |
9945.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].end |
9947.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3630].text |
總相比像這麼少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].start |
9948.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].end |
9950.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3631].text |
他怎麼回答我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].start |
9949.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].end |
9951.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3632].text |
你要記得嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].start |
9971.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].end |
9973.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3633].text |
他們在做所謂的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].start |
9973.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].end |
9975.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[3634].text |
營養午餐的滿意度的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].start |
9977.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].end |
9979.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3635].text |
在九粒區 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].start |
9979.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].end |
9981.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3636].text |
幾乎是92 93%的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].start |
9981.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].end |
9983.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3637].text |
都是滿意的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].start |
9983.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].end |
9985.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3638].text |
現在署長你也看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].start |
9985.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].end |
9987.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3639].text |
我們去那我至少我做的那一班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].start |
9987.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].end |
9989.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3640].text |
我們是分開的那一班 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].start |
9989.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].end |
9991.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[3641].text |
我有特別觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].start |
9990.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].end |
9992.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3642].text |
小朋友是吃得乾乾淨淨的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].start |
9992.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].end |
9994.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3643].text |
所有的飯跟菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].start |
9994.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].end |
9996.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3644].text |
全部吃光光 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].start |
9996.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].end |
9998.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3645].text |
那我也直接問他們好不好吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].start |
9998.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].end |
10000.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[3646].text |
他們就當場跟我講很好吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].start |
9999.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].end |
10001.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3647].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].start |
10000.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].end |
10002.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3648].text |
我看到我們從日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].start |
10002.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].end |
10004.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3649].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].start |
10004.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].end |
10006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3650].text |
剛剛有講到秋刀魚的影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].start |
10006.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].end |
10008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3651].text |
他們在每個影食 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].start |
10008.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].end |
10010.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[3652].text |
他們做一些影片教小朋友幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].start |
10010.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].end |
10012.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3653].text |
教小朋友什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].start |
10012.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].end |
10014.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3654].text |
用影片教小朋友幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].start |
10014.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].end |
10016.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3655].text |
什麼撥刺 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].start |
10016.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].end |
10018.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3656].text |
讓他在整個食的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].start |
10018.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].end |
10020.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3657].text |
享受到魚肉的鮮美 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].start |
10020.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].end |
10022.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3658].text |
但是不會擔心到受到刺的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].start |
10022.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].end |
10024.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3659].text |
做了以後效果是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].start |
10024.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].end |
10026.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3660].text |
這個滿意度也滿高 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].start |
10026.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].end |
10028.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3661].text |
小朋友也是真的可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].start |
10028.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].end |
10030.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3662].text |
因為影片而真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].start |
10030.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].end |
10032.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3663].text |
享受到魚肉的食用過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].start |
10032.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].end |
10034.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3664].text |
還有一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].start |
10034.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].end |
10036.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3665].text |
他們的廚餘就變少了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].start |
10036.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].end |
10038.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3666].text |
相對的就會變少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].start |
10038.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].end |
10040.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3667].text |
所以就不會把魚刺挑出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].start |
10040.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].end |
10042.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3668].text |
所以就不會留下太多的魚肉在廚餘裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].start |
10042.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].end |
10044.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3669].text |
為什麼從這些細節開始講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].start |
10044.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].end |
10046.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3670].text |
我就要講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].start |
10046.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].end |
10048.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3671].text |
今天我去日本考察營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].start |
10048.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].end |
10050.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3672].text |
我特別感受到一個很強烈的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].start |
10050.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].end |
10052.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3673].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].start |
10053.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].end |
10055.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3674].text |
日本的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].start |
10055.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].end |
10057.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3675].text |
他不是單純把它當成所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].start |
10057.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].end |
10059.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3676].text |
社會福利或是照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].start |
10059.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].end |
10061.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3677].text |
他把它當成幾個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].start |
10061.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].end |
10063.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3678].text |
第一個飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].start |
10063.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].end |
10065.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3679].text |
第二個健康教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].start |
10065.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].end |
10067.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3680].text |
他被倡導說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].start |
10067.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].end |
10069.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3681].text |
糖尿病要從小學的營養午餐開始就交集 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].start |
10069.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].end |
10071.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3682].text |
就是要從飲食當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].start |
10071.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].end |
10073.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3683].text |
來去防治各種慢性病 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].start |
10074.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].end |
10076.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3684].text |
這次的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].start |
10076.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].end |
10078.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3685].text |
我們幾乎是從早 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].start |
10078.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].end |
10080.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3686].text |
然後到晚 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].start |
10080.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].end |
10082.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3687].text |
就在不斷的再去跟日本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].start |
10082.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].end |
10084.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3688].text |
各個單位來交流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].start |
10084.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].end |
10086.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3689].text |
也包括數學教育啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].start |
10086.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].end |
10088.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3690].text |
也包括說今天營養午餐資訊教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].start |
10088.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].end |
10090.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3691].text |
都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].start |
10090.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].end |
10092.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3692].text |
這是一個非常有意義的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].start |
10093.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].end |
10095.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3693].text |
國外的考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].start |
10095.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].end |
10097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3694].text |
那我就覺得說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].start |
10097.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].end |
10099.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3695].text |
自己受益甚豐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].start |
10099.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].end |
10101.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3696].text |
所以我必須在這邊也要透過這個質詢來告訴大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].start |
10101.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].end |
10103.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3697].text |
我們台灣既然要討論營養午餐的專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].start |
10103.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].end |
10105.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3698].text |
那當然要跟今天營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].start |
10105.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].end |
10107.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[3699].text |
法已經行之有年的日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].start |
10110.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].end |
10112.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3700].text |
來去參考他們立法的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].start |
10112.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].end |
10114.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3701].text |
這絕對是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].start |
10114.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].end |
10116.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3702].text |
有一個有品質立法應該做的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].start |
10116.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].end |
10118.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3703].text |
這我必須給羅庭偉委員一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].start |
10118.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].end |
10120.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3704].text |
還他一個公道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].start |
10120.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].end |
10122.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3705].text |
那下一個我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].start |
10122.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3706].end |
10124.34 |
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我們的次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].start |
10125.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].end |
10127.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3707].text |
如果大人害怕小孩 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].start |
10127.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].end |
10129.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3708].text |
這世界就完蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].start |
10130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3709].end |
10132.2 |
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請問這句話出處你知道是哪裡嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].start |
10132.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].end |
10134.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3710].text |
鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].start |
10134.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3711].end |
10136.2 |
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我剛剛看質詢說 |
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10136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3712].end |
10138.2 |
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你沒有看鐵拳教育 |
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10138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3713].end |
10140.2 |
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因為十個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].start |
10140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3714].end |
10142.2 |
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我會抽空來看 |
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10142.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].end |
10144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3715].text |
你要不要看我覺得這一點是尊重次長的判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].start |
10144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].end |
10146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3716].text |
但我要跟你講就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].start |
10146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].end |
10148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3717].text |
基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].start |
10149.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].end |
10151.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3718].text |
我們現在老師有很多恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].start |
10151.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].end |
10153.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[3719].text |
你知道吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].start |
10153.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].end |
10155.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3720].text |
有很多恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].start |
10155.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].end |
10157.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3721].text |
恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].start |
10156.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].end |
10158.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3722].text |
所謂的濫術 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].start |
10158.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].end |
10160.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[3723].text |
恐懼所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].start |
10160.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].end |
10162.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3724].text |
濫用檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].start |
10162.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].end |
10164.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3725].text |
恐懼網報 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].start |
10164.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].end |
10166.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[3726].text |
恐懼校內的一些霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].start |
10167.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].end |
10169.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3727].text |
恐懼一些所謂的少年犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].start |
10169.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].end |
10171.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3728].text |
運用所謂的少年保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].start |
10171.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].end |
10173.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[3729].text |
來去欺壓學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].start |
10175.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].end |
10177.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[3730].text |
當老師恐懼教育環境的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].start |
10179.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].end |
10181.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3731].text |
市場覺得受害者是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].start |
10181.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].end |
10183.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[3732].text |
而已嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].start |
10183.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].end |
10185.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3733].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].start |
10185.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].end |
10187.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3734].text |
不管是老師或學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].start |
10187.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].end |
10189.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3735].text |
如果校園讓天師生都感到恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].start |
10189.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].end |
10191.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3736].text |
這是我們必須要很嚴肅面對的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].start |
10191.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].end |
10193.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3737].text |
沒錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].start |
10193.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].end |
10195.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[3738].text |
我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].start |
10194.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].end |
10196.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3739].text |
多到老師都恐懼教育現場環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].start |
10197.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].end |
10199.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[3740].text |
這個世界就完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].start |
10199.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].end |
10201.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3741].text |
為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].start |
10200.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].end |
10202.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3742].text |
受害的不只是老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].start |
10202.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].end |
10204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3743].text |
受害的包括學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].start |
10204.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].end |
10206.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3744].text |
受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].start |
10206.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].end |
10208.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3745].text |
受害的是今天老師如果沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].start |
10208.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].end |
10210.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3746].text |
辦法好好教育的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].start |
10210.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].end |
10212.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3747].text |
國家也不會有未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].start |
10212.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].end |
10214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3748].text |
為什麼今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].start |
10214.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].end |
10216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3749].text |
雖然次長沒有看過鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].start |
10216.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].end |
10218.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3750].text |
裡面當然有很多戲劇化的手法 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].start |
10218.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].end |
10220.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3751].text |
那是另外的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].start |
10220.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].end |
10222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3752].text |
但是他為什麼引起這麼大的共鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].start |
10222.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].end |
10224.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3753].text |
次長你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].start |
10224.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].end |
10226.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3754].text |
我是有看到一些相關的評論 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].start |
10226.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].end |
10228.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3755].text |
主要是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].start |
10228.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].end |
10230.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3756].text |
某種程度是來自於 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].start |
10230.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].end |
10232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3757].text |
教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].start |
10232.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].end |
10234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3758].text |
一些觀察跟反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].start |
10234.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].end |
10236.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3759].text |
就是這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].start |
10236.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].end |
10238.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3760].text |
可能切合現在他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].start |
10238.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].end |
10240.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3761].text |
我跟次長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].start |
10241.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].end |
10243.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[3762].text |
裡面欺負啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].start |
10243.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].end |
10245.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[3763].text |
完完全全大家沒有任何陌生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].start |
10246.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].end |
10248.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3764].text |
全部發生在教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].start |
10248.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].end |
10250.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3765].text |
不只南韓獨有 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].start |
10250.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].end |
10252.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[3766].text |
台灣也是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].start |
10252.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].end |
10254.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3767].text |
其中一集講國會議員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].start |
10254.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].end |
10256.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3768].text |
兒子仗著父親的勢力 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].start |
10256.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].end |
10258.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[3769].text |
大齡學校同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].start |
10259.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].end |
10261.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3770].text |
那也有少年犯仗著法律的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].start |
10261.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].end |
10263.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3771].text |
在校園橫行霸道 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].start |
10264.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].end |
10266.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3772].text |
公然挑釁還傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].start |
10266.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].end |
10268.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3773].text |
惡毒傷害被害者家屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].start |
10268.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].end |
10270.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3774].text |
很多人看到就想到 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].start |
10270.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].end |
10272.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3775].text |
2023年新北校園的戈井案 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].start |
10274.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].end |
10276.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[3776].text |
毒品現在侵入校園的嚴重性與日俱增 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].start |
10278.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].end |
10280.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[3777].text |
大家看到裡面所有的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].start |
10281.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].end |
10283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3778].text |
影劇的情節 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].start |
10283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].end |
10285.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3779].text |
跟教育現場幾乎是一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].start |
10286.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].end |
10288.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[3780].text |
這才會產生強大的共鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].start |
10288.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].end |
10290.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3781].text |
我再講一集我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].start |
10291 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].end |
10293 |
| transcript.whisperx[3782].text |
更是幾乎百分之百命中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].start |
10294.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].end |
10296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3783].text |
他有一集講恐龍家長如何濫用檢舉制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].start |
10296.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].end |
10298.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3784].text |
長期壓迫老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].start |
10299.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].end |
10301.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3785].text |
市長你知道這在台灣也發生過一模一樣的事吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].start |
10303.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].end |
10305.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3786].text |
您知道吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].start |
10305.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].end |
10307.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3787].text |
有看到有類似的評論跟建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].start |
10307.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].end |
10309.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3788].text |
不是類似的評論跟建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].start |
10309.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].end |
10311.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[3789].text |
市長您是教育部的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].start |
10314.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].end |
10316.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3790].text |
你是學生的後盾你是老師的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].start |
10316.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].end |
10318.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3791].text |
你是教育現場必須走出這種所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].start |
10318.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].end |
10320.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3792].text |
惡質霸凌之風 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].start |
10323.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].end |
10325.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[3793].text |
的一個最強大的後盾 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].start |
10326.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].end |
10328.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3794].text |
媒體有報導 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].start |
10328.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].end |
10330.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3795].text |
有一位教學20年在台南市國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].start |
10330.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].end |
10332.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3796].text |
任教的謝姓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].start |
10333.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].end |
10335.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3797].text |
2024年4月因為關心學生的學習狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].start |
10335.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].end |
10337.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[3798].text |
在聯絡部寫下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].start |
10339.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].end |
10341.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3799].text |
數學是不是練習較少 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].start |
10341.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].end |
10343.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3800].text |
寫下這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].start |
10345.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].end |
10347.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[3801].text |
引發家長強烈反彈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].start |
10348.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].end |
10350.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[3802].text |
家長指控 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].start |
10349.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].end |
10351.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[3803].text |
老師的一句話會摧毀孩子的生命 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].start |
10355.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].end |
10357.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3804].text |
然後投訴到教育局 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].start |
10358.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].end |
10360.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[3805].text |
接著擴大成40多項投訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].start |
10361.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].end |
10363.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3806].text |
別人他午休時提醒學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].start |
10363.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].end |
10365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3807].text |
不要關燈 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].start |
10365.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].end |
10367.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3808].text |
練習寫練習卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].start |
10367.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].end |
10369.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[3809].text |
要保護眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].start |
10369.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].end |
10371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3810].text |
也變成說是侵害學生的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].start |
10371.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].end |
10373.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3811].text |
甚至3、4年前的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].start |
10373.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].end |
10375.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3812].text |
臉書貼文 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].start |
10375.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].end |
10377.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[3813].text |
都被翻出來檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].start |
10378.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].end |
10380.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3814].text |
2024年8月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].start |
10380.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].end |
10382.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3815].text |
校事會議調查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].start |
10382.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].end |
10384.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3816].text |
認定40多項投訴均無違規 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].start |
10385.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].end |
10387.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3817].text |
家長還是持續啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].start |
10387.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].end |
10389.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3818].text |
持續繼續濫述啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].start |
10389.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].end |
10391.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3819].text |
然後要求逐項說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].start |
10391.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].end |
10393.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3820].text |
投訴為什麼不成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].start |
10392.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].end |
10394.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3821].text |
在調查過程有無瑕疵 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].start |
10394.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].end |
10396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3822].text |
在沒有心事證的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].start |
10396.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].end |
10398.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3823].text |
同年12月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].start |
10398.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].end |
10400.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3824].text |
原本調查沒有任何違規的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].start |
10400.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].end |
10402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3825].text |
改成4項成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].start |
10402.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].end |
10404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3826].text |
老師難以接受問為什麼結果不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].start |
10404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].end |
10406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3827].text |
就調查委員跟他講 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].start |
10406.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].end |
10408.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3828].text |
你被投訴這麼多項 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].start |
10408.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].end |
10410.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[3829].text |
如果一項都沒有成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].start |
10410.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].end |
10412.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[3830].text |
家長會覺得我們只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].start |
10413.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].end |
10415.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[3831].text |
在 幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].start |
10415.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].end |
10417.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[3832].text |
暴斃老師啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].start |
10417.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].end |
10419.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3833].text |
因此還被學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].start |
10419.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].end |
10421.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3834].text |
計生屆一次考機打儀等考機獎金減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].start |
10421.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].end |
10423.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3835].text |
然後被列為追蹤名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].start |
10423.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].end |
10425.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3836].text |
撰寫5000字報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].start |
10425.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].end |
10427.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3837].text |
參加4小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].start |
10427.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].end |
10429.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3838].text |
演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].start |
10428.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].end |
10430.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3839].text |
最後訴願成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].start |
10430.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].end |
10432.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3840].text |
經歷8個月的投訴調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].start |
10432.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].end |
10434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3841].text |
4個月的考核會審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].start |
10434.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].end |
10436.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3842].text |
到10個月的訴訟 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].start |
10436.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].end |
10438.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3843].text |
2年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].start |
10438.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].end |
10440.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3844].text |
漫長程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].start |
10440.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].end |
10442.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[3845].text |
折磨到身心俱疲 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].start |
10444.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].end |
10446.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3846].text |
最後他已經不知該如何重返校園了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].start |
10449.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].end |
10451.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3847].text |
這位老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].start |
10451.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].end |
10453.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3848].text |
他撐過了這場磨爛 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].start |
10454.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].end |
10456.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[3849].text |
但是不像劇中的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].start |
10457.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].end |
10459.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3850].text |
他今天幾乎撐不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].start |
10459.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].end |
10461.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3851].text |
為什麼 機會一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].start |
10461.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].end |
10463.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3852].text |
如果你去看那一集你會發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].start |
10463.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].end |
10465.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3853].text |
一模一樣 完全一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].start |
10465.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].end |
10467.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3854].text |
他為什麼形成強大的共鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].start |
10467.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].end |
10469.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3855].text |
就是大家擔憂的是我們教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].start |
10470.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].end |
10472.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[3856].text |
對老師而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].start |
10473.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].end |
10475.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[3857].text |
已經是惡化到今天直教非常困難了 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].start |
10478.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].end |
10480.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3858].text |
在這種情況之下我們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].start |
10481.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].end |
10483.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3859].text |
非常有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].start |
10483.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].end |
10485.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3860].text |
要去解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].start |
10485.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].end |
10487.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3861].text |
那為什麼要舉這個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].start |
10487.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].end |
10489.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3862].text |
我要告訴 現在校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].start |
10489.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].end |
10491.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[3863].text |
就是有濫訴的情況 沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].start |
10492.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].end |
10494.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[3864].text |
就是有些濫訴的情況吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].start |
10496.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].end |
10498.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3865].text |
所以說我們在今年1月 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].start |
10498.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].end |
10500.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3866].text |
也針對校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].start |
10500.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].end |
10502.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3867].text |
也針對匿名檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].start |
10502.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].end |
10504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3868].text |
針對分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].start |
10504.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].end |
10506.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3869].text |
針對於相關的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].start |
10506.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].end |
10508.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3870].text |
輔佐人的部分我們都有做了調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].start |
10508.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].end |
10510.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3871].text |
也期待說在這半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].start |
10510.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].end |
10512.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3872].text |
我們收整現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].start |
10512.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].end |
10514.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3873].text |
一些狀況之後在今年7月中 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].start |
10514.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].end |
10516.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3874].text |
能夠再進行整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].start |
10516.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].end |
10518.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3875].text |
檢討分析看是不是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].start |
10518.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].end |
10520.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3876].text |
能夠再進一步精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].start |
10520.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].end |
10522.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3877].text |
是不是還有什麼不足的部分可以用來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].start |
10522.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].end |
10524.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3878].text |
讓整個一個校事會議制度能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].start |
10524.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].end |
10526.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3879].text |
完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].start |
10526 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].end |
10528 |
| transcript.whisperx[3880].text |
次長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].start |
10527.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].end |
10529.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3881].text |
校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].start |
10529.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].end |
10531.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[3882].text |
今天純粹是一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].start |
10532.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].end |
10534.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[3883].text |
改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].start |
10533.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].end |
10535.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[3884].text |
是非常必要 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].start |
10536.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].end |
10538.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[3885].text |
我們就有很多的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].start |
10538.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].end |
10540.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3886].text |
在教育現場不堪霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].start |
10540.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].end |
10542.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3887].text |
不堪濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].start |
10542.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].end |
10544.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[3888].text |
就選擇走上 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].start |
10543.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].end |
10545.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[3889].text |
我們最不樂見的路 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].start |
10546.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].end |
10548.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[3890].text |
這樣子去對老師的這種欺壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].start |
10549.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].end |
10551.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[3891].text |
我說過傷害的不是老師而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].start |
10553.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].end |
10555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3892].text |
傷害是整個教育現場跟環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].start |
10555.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].end |
10557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3893].text |
傷害是學生的受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].start |
10557.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].end |
10559.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[3894].text |
傷害是國家的未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].start |
10559.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].end |
10561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3895].text |
所以為什麼今天要嚴肅來討論這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].start |
10561.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].end |
10563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3896].text |
也希望教育部今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].start |
10563.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].end |
10565.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[3897].text |
真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].start |
10565.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].end |
10567.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[3898].text |
要肩膀扛起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].start |
10567.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].end |
10569.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[3899].text |
把我們老師扛起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].start |
10569.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].end |
10571.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3900].text |
不要讓老師獨自承受這樣一個黑暗的霸凌 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].start |
10571.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].end |
10573.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3901].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].start |
10573.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].end |
10575.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[3902].text |
是,謝謝委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].start |
10576.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].end |
10578.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[3903].text |
謝謝羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].start |
10579.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].end |
10581.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3904].text |
謝謝,謝謝市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].start |
10581.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].end |
10583.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[3905].text |
謝謝署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].start |
10585.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].end |
10587.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[3906].text |
下面有請蔡村酬委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].start |
10590.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].end |
10592.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[3907].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].start |
10600.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].end |
10602.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[3908].text |
謝謝,有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].start |
10608.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].end |
10610.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[3909].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].start |
10609.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].end |
10611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3910].text |
市長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].start |
10611.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].end |
10613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3911].text |
本席今天要請教市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].start |
10613.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].end |
10615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3912].text |
在教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].start |
10615.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].end |
10617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3913].text |
到底是怎麼樣來思考 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].start |
10617.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].end |
10619.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3914].text |
我們大學生的一個住宿的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].start |
10619.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].end |
10621.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3915].text |
一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].start |
10621.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].end |
10623.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3916].text |
教育部過去曾經 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].start |
10623.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].end |
10625.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3917].text |
也提出很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].start |
10625.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].end |
10627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3918].text |
多次提出計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].start |
10627.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].end |
10629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3919].text |
先是 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].start |
10629.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].end |
10631.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3920].text |
改善這個學生住宿的 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].start |
10631.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].end |
10633.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3921].text |
一個結心 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].start |
10633.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].end |
10635.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3922].text |
其實我也相信教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].start |
10635.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].end |
10637.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[3923].text |
是真的有在做 |
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但是我是覺得 |
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成效不彰 |
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所以市長你認為 |
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教育部應該要做出 |
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哪一些的一個改善 |
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的一個成果 |
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根本報告在宿舍的部分 |
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我們事實上 |
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在新宿舍運動是有四個做法 |
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第一個做法當然是改善 |
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目前 |
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宿舍在一些公共空間 |
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能夠讓學生 |
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能夠有更多的一些 |
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交流的環境 |
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第二個部分是 |
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我們也鼓勵學校來新建 |
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或是整建新的宿舍 |
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這塊我們是提供利息補貼 |
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第三個部分我們也 |
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結合在校外 |
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學校可能要新建新的宿舍 |
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不容易如果在校外可以找到 |
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合適的地點我們來補助 |
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他相關的 |
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一些住宿的補助 |
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最後就是說如果學生 |
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不管他是在校外 |
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在住宿的時候 |
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租金補貼這會有內政部三百億 |
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的租金補貼來進行如果是 |
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住校內宿舍會有教育部 |
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10701.87 |
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我們每個月補助五千 |
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10705.87 |
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針對低收中低收是補助七千 |
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來協助學生 |
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減輕住宿的負擔 |
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好那在一百一十二年 |
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監察院他有 |
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指出來 |
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教育部在推動新的宿舍 |
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的一個計畫的時候 |
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有沒有把校外 |
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校外租屋的學生宿 |
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納入盤點 |
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導致實際的 |
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住宿的需求 |
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被低估了 |
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指出部分學校的宿舍 |
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其實 |
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他的船位是 |
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很嚴重的切扣 |
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並沒有參與這樣的計畫 |
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校外先辦的 |
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10745.87 |
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學生社會住宅 |
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10747.87 |
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還有空船的補助 |
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10749.87 |
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成效不彰 |
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這是 |
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10753.87 |
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一百一十四年的監察院公告調查 |
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10753.87 |
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的一個報告 |
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10757.87 |
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案件的一個狀態 |
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10757.87 |
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10759.87 |
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已經結案那麼請問 |
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教育部有提出哪一些 |
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10761.87 |
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的一個改善的方案 |
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10765.87 |
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好跟我們報告就是說 |
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針對於校外 |
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10769.87 |
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能夠去找合理 |
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的空間作為學生 |
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10773.87 |
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的社會住宅這個部分 |
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10775.87 |
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確實他會遇到 |
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10777.87 |
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一個兩難的問題就是說 |
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10777.87 |
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10779.87 |
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如果這個位置這個空間 |
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10781.87 |
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很近房東他自己對外 |
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租就可以他其實不需要跟學校合作 |
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那會跟學校合作 |
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的可能那個地點就遠了一些 |
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10789.87 |
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那對於學生要住宿的醫院就會 |
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10789.87 |
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10791.87 |
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比較低好所以針對這個問題 |
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10791.87 |
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10793.87 |
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我們也非常感謝監察院也 |
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10793.87 |
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10795.87 |
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希望再部我們來做精進 |
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10795.87 |
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10797.87 |
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所以這個部分我們現在有在跟 |
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10799.87 |
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大學在談就是說 |
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10801.87 |
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他如果能夠去找到 |
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10801.87 |
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10803.87 |
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我們多給大學一些籌碼 |
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10803.87 |
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10805.87 |
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給他多一些經費的補助或是 |
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10805.87 |
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10807.87 |
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就是空床補貼 |
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10807.87 |
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10809.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4009].text |
然後透過一些比如說學校的 |
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10811.87 |
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任居服務讓他在交通方面 |
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10813.87 |
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那甚至在那個宿舍裡面 |
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10813.87 |
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10815.87 |
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有一些好的教學 |
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10817.87 |
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或是一些 |
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10817.87 |
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10819.87 |
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社群的公共空間的活動 |
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10819.87 |
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10821.87 |
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來吸引學生願意把那邊 |
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10821.87 |
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10823.87 |
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當成是一個他住宿的地點 |
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10823.87 |
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10825.87 |
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這些都是我們現在在提 |
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10825.87 |
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10827.87 |
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但是我也必須跟委員 |
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10827.87 |
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10829.87 |
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報告我們當時的 |
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10829.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].end |
10831.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4020].text |
剛剛講的有四肢健來講 |
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10831.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].end |
10833.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4021].text |
最 |
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10833.19 |
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10835.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4022].text |
我們的主會他是放到既有校舍 |
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10835.19 |
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10837.19 |
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的一個公共空間的調整 |
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10837.19 |
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10839.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4024].text |
目前大概有四分之一學校 |
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10839.19 |
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10841.19 |
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對但是你就是說現在校舍 |
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10841.19 |
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是有限嘛是有限 |
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10845.19 |
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所以有很多學生必須要到 |
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10845.19 |
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10847.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4028].text |
外面去租屋嘛是 |
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10847.19 |
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10849.19 |
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那我們就是要盡量來協助 |
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10849.19 |
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10851.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4030].text |
我們租屋的一個 |
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10851.19 |
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10853.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4031].text |
寄靈能夠盡量跟學校 |
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10853.19 |
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10855.19 |
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就是能夠靠近縮短這個 |
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10855.19 |
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10857.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4033].text |
交通的一個交通 |
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10857.19 |
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10859.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4034].text |
的一個時間交通業績 |
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10859.19 |
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10861.19 |
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對於學生的一個學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].start |
10861.19 |
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10863.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4036].text |
也就是他的一個 |
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10863.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].end |
10865.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4037].text |
產生的一個問題呢就會更少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].start |
10865.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].end |
10867.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4038].text |
那他們沒有後顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].start |
10867.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].end |
10869.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4039].text |
自由這個是我們教育部 |
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10869.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].end |
10871.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4040].text |
我們必須要努力的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].start |
10871.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].end |
10873.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4041].text |
對謝謝委員指導這塊我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].start |
10873.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].end |
10875.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4042].text |
校外的認居服務學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].start |
10875.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].end |
10877.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4043].text |
他也會去定期的去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].start |
10877.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].end |
10879.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4044].text |
周邊有些合理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].start |
10879.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].end |
10881.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4045].text |
好的房東好的地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].start |
10881.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].end |
10883.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4046].text |
透過資訊分享給學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].start |
10883.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].end |
10885.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4047].text |
讓他可以找到一個更好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].start |
10885.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].end |
10887.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4048].text |
校外住宿的房間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].start |
10887.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].end |
10889.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4049].text |
我們希望就是能多多能夠來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].start |
10889.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].end |
10891.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4050].text |
強化 |
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10891.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].end |
10893.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4051].text |
那最後呢我們要來問就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].start |
10893.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].end |
10895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4052].text |
新宿舍的一個計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].start |
10895.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].end |
10897.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4053].text |
一個辦理的情形 |
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10897.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].end |
10899.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4054].text |
那截至目前 |
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10899.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].end |
10901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4055].text |
在114年12月的一個資料 |
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10901.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].end |
10903.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4056].text |
有一些學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].start |
10903.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].end |
10905.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4057].text |
他是有申請有一些學校 |
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10905.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].end |
10907.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4058].text |
他是在申請當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].start |
10907.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].end |
10909.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4059].text |
或者是輔導當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].start |
10909.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].end |
10911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4060].text |
那沒有參加的學校 |
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10911.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].end |
10913.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4061].text |
也有將近46個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].start |
10913.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].end |
10915.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4062].text |
學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].start |
10915.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].end |
10917.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4063].text |
那麼目前呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].start |
10917.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].end |
10919.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4064].text |
完工的學校大概有16個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].start |
10919.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].end |
10921.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4065].text |
有18案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].start |
10921.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].end |
10923.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4066].text |
是不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].start |
10923.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].end |
10925.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4067].text |
目前因為宿舍的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].start |
10925.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].end |
10927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4068].text |
有時候會涉及到說可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].start |
10927.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].end |
10929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4069].text |
只能利用寒暑假的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].start |
10929.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].end |
10931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4070].text |
去做而且要騰龍 |
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10931.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].end |
10933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4071].text |
換鳥這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].start |
10933.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].end |
10935.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4072].text |
速度大概沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].start |
10935.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].end |
10937.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4073].text |
那麼快但是我們現在其實已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].start |
10937.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].end |
10939.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4074].text |
5.4萬床已經完成或在進行中了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].start |
10939.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].end |
10941.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4075].text |
大概佔整體的四分之一左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].start |
10941.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].end |
10943.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4076].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].start |
10943.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].end |
10945.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4077].text |
再來呢就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].start |
10945.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].end |
10947.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4078].text |
學生的註視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].start |
10947.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].end |
10949.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4079].text |
需求呢不能只有看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].start |
10949.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].end |
10951.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4080].text |
宿舍的一個申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].start |
10951.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].end |
10953.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4081].text |
然後呢我們必須要納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].start |
10953.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].end |
10955.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4082].text |
校外住屋學生 |
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10955.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].end |
10957.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4083].text |
還有資源不能憑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].start |
10957.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].end |
10959.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4084].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].start |
10959.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].end |
10961.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4085].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].start |
10961.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].end |
10963.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4086].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].start |
10963.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].end |
10965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4087].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].start |
10965.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].end |
10967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4088].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].start |
10967.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].end |
10969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4089].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].start |
10969.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].end |
10971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4090].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].start |
10971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].end |
10973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4091].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].start |
10973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].end |
10975.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4092].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].start |
10975.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].end |
10977.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4093].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].start |
10977.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].end |
10979.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4094].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].start |
10979.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].end |
10981.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4095].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].start |
10981.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].end |
10983.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4096].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].start |
10983.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].end |
10985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4097].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].start |
10985.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].end |
10987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4098].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].start |
10987.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].end |
10989.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4099].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].start |
10989.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].end |
10991.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4100].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].start |
10991.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].end |
10993.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4101].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].start |
10993.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].end |
10995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4102].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].start |
10995.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].end |
10997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4103].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].start |
10997.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].end |
10999.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4104].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].start |
10999.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].end |
11001.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[4105].text |
那些資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].start |
10986.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].end |
10988.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4106].text |
市長你有認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].start |
10988.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].end |
10990.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4107].text |
這個技術正義這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].start |
10990.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].end |
10992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4108].text |
謝謝委員官長確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].start |
10992.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].end |
10994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4109].text |
針對委員提出來的在都會區 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].start |
10994.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].end |
10996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4110].text |
高租金高缺口這些是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].start |
10996.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].end |
10998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4111].text |
優先要加強輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].start |
10998.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].end |
11000.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4112].text |
的對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].start |
11000.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].end |
11002.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4113].text |
宿舍是除了教室以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].start |
11002.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].end |
11004.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4114].text |
大概在學校待最久的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].start |
11004.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].end |
11006.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4115].text |
一個空間所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].start |
11006.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].end |
11008.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4116].text |
部裡面我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].start |
11008.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].end |
11010.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4117].text |
很重視也會根據委員這個建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].start |
11010.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].end |
11012.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4118].text |
來加強輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].start |
11012.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].end |
11014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4119].text |
那再來就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].start |
11014.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].end |
11016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4120].text |
因為現在房租 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].start |
11016.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].end |
11018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4121].text |
機高不下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].start |
11018.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].end |
11020.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4122].text |
物價也上漲了可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].start |
11020.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].end |
11022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4123].text |
有一些產生經濟困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].start |
11022.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].end |
11024.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4124].text |
的一個情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].start |
11024.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].end |
11026.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4125].text |
學生在校外租屋 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].start |
11026.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].end |
11028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4126].text |
的一個經費考量下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].start |
11028.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].end |
11030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4127].text |
他找到的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].start |
11030.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].end |
11032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4128].text |
黃色的品質有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].start |
11032.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].end |
11034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4129].text |
然後周邊的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].start |
11034.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].end |
11036.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4130].text |
也很便宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].start |
11036.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].end |
11038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4131].text |
基於學校又很遠所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].start |
11038.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].end |
11040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4132].text |
很擔心這個技術的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].start |
11040.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].end |
11042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4133].text |
問題那教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].start |
11042.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].end |
11044.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4134].text |
如何來關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].start |
11044.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].end |
11046.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4135].text |
並實質的協助這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].start |
11046.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].end |
11048.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4136].text |
保障這些學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].start |
11048.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].end |
11050.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4137].text |
基礎的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].start |
11050.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].end |
11052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4138].text |
謝謝委員的觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].start |
11052.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].end |
11054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4139].text |
這點確實是對弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].start |
11054.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].end |
11056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4140].text |
學生來講應該優先幫他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].start |
11056.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].end |
11058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4141].text |
解決的所以目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].start |
11058.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].end |
11060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4142].text |
如果你是低收入庫的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].start |
11060.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].end |
11062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4143].text |
學校是要提供免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].start |
11062.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].end |
11064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4144].text |
的住宿那如果是中低 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].start |
11064.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].end |
11066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4145].text |
收入的學生我們會提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].start |
11066.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].end |
11068.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4146].text |
優先的住宿 |
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11068.62 |
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當然在中低 |
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11072.62 |
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跟低收入以外同經濟弱勢的 |
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11072.62 |
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學生我們會跟 |
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學校這邊來建立一些 |
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11076.62 |
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11078.62 |
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追蹤過濟的機制 |
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11078.62 |
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11080.62 |
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比如說他們申請相關的講 |
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11080.62 |
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11082.62 |
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協助協助學授我們要詢問一下 |
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11082.62 |
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11084.62 |
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他是不是在住宿有沒有需要 |
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11084.62 |
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11086.62 |
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學校優先來協助 |
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11086.62 |
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11088.62 |
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甚至他在外面住任居的 |
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11088.62 |
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11090.62 |
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地方我們多一份關心多一份 |
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11090.62 |
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11092.62 |
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了解來提醒他安全 |
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11092.62 |
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11094.62 |
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我想這部分委員的建議我們 |
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11094.62 |
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11096.62 |
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會跟大學這邊來討論 |
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11096.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4161].end |
11098.62 |
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怎麼來經濟 |
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11098.62 |
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11100.62 |
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比較弱勢的學生 |
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11100.62 |
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11102.62 |
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我們為了教育要平等 |
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11102.62 |
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11104.62 |
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所以教育平等就是一切 |
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11104.62 |
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11106.62 |
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平等的基礎所以我們 |
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11106.62 |
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11108.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4166].text |
希望這些弱勢的學生能夠 |
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11108.62 |
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11110.62 |
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讓 |
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11110.62 |
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11112.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4168].text |
教育部能夠特別特別的 |
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11112.62 |
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來關心 |
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11114.62 |
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11116.62 |
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所以我們也很怕 |
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11116.62 |
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11118.62 |
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因為住屋在外面 |
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11118.62 |
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11120.62 |
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住屋的一個環境不良 |
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11120.62 |
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11122.62 |
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還有就是離了 |
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11122.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4174].end |
11124.62 |
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學校太遠這個交通問題 |
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11124.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4175].end |
11126.62 |
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所以在每年的九月 |
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11126.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4176].end |
11128.62 |
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九月的時候其實 |
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11128.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].end |
11130.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4177].text |
學生發生一些交通問題 |
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11130.62 |
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11132.62 |
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是特別的多 |
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11132.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].end |
11134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4179].text |
應該那個 |
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11134.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].end |
11136.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4180].text |
九月是一個熱點 |
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11136.62 |
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11138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4181].text |
的事情 |
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11138.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].end |
11140.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4182].text |
所以針對這個你們也必須要 |
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11140.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].end |
11142.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4183].text |
拿出一個政策出來 |
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11142.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4184].end |
11144.62 |
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就是能夠遏止讓這些學生能夠 |
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11144.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].end |
11146.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4185].text |
盡量的來 |
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11146.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].end |
11148.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4186].text |
我們剛剛有談到 |
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11148.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].end |
11150.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4187].text |
盡量離學校的一個距離 |
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11150.62 |
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11152.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4188].text |
越近越好這個交通 |
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11152.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].end |
11154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4189].text |
更方便然後又安全 |
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11154.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].end |
11156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4190].text |
是所以提醒我們 |
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11156.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].end |
11158.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4191].text |
在開學每一年 |
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11158.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].end |
11160.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4192].text |
學期初都會針對學校 |
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11160.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].end |
11162.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4193].text |
附近一些交通的熱點 |
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11162.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].end |
11164.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4194].text |
會由學校透過學長節 |
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11164.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].end |
11166.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4195].text |
或透過一些資訊 |
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11166.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].end |
11168.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4196].text |
來提醒學生要注意道路 |
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11168.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].end |
11170.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4197].text |
交通安全那為了提醒我們 |
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11170.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].end |
11172.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4198].text |
會繼續的人因為學生 |
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11172.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].end |
11174.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4199].text |
在就學期間 |
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11174.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].end |
11176.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4200].text |
他的安全他的安全 |
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11176.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].end |
11178.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4201].text |
是大家都關心的 |
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11178.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].end |
11180.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4202].text |
尤其是家長所以我們要讓 |
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11180.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].end |
11182.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4203].text |
家長很放心對於我們高教的 |
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11182.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].end |
11184.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4204].text |
一個問題都能夠很放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].start |
11184.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].end |
11186.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4205].text |
的把孩子教到 |
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11186.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].end |
11188.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4206].text |
各個學校來 |
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11188.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].end |
11190.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4207].text |
那次長你知道台灣民眾黨 |
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11190.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].end |
11192.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4208].text |
從上一屆就很關注 |
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11192.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].end |
11194.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4209].text |
照顧青年學子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].start |
11194.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].end |
11196.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4210].text |
讓學生有更好的一個生活 |
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11196.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].end |
11198.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4211].text |
的政策不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].start |
11198.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].end |
11200.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4212].text |
那個次長你知道台灣 |
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11200.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].end |
11202.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4213].text |
民眾黨的這樣的一個政策嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].start |
11202.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].end |
11204.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4214].text |
是在這一次大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].start |
11204.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].end |
11206.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4215].text |
法專家學校法跟高級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].start |
11206.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].end |
11208.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4216].text |
中等教育法的提案我們有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].start |
11208.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].end |
11210.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4217].text |
黨團的提案版本 |
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11210.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].end |
11212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4218].text |
是我們 |
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11212.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].end |
11214.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4219].text |
我們是很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].start |
11214.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].end |
11216.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4220].text |
關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].start |
11216.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].end |
11218.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4221].text |
居住正義還有住宿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].start |
11218.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].end |
11220.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4222].text |
還有住屋的貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].start |
11220.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].end |
11222.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4223].text |
還有一個好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].start |
11222.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].end |
11224.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4224].text |
住宿才能夠讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].start |
11224.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].end |
11226.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4225].text |
學生能夠安心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].start |
11226.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].end |
11228.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4226].text |
學習這是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].start |
11228.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].end |
11230.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4227].text |
我們台灣民眾黨的一個價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].start |
11230.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].end |
11232.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4228].text |
就是希望我們的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].start |
11232.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].end |
11234.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4229].text |
能夠讓他盡量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].start |
11234.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].end |
11236.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4230].text |
無後顧之憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].start |
11236.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].end |
11238.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4231].text |
那最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].start |
11238.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].end |
11240.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4232].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].start |
11240.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].end |
11242.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4233].text |
跟教育部做一個呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].start |
11242.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].end |
11244.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4234].text |
就是說我們不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].start |
11244.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].end |
11246.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4235].text |
也只有補助案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].start |
11246.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].end |
11248.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4236].text |
這些案件的管理 |
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11248.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].end |
11250.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4237].text |
而是要建立學生宿舍的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].start |
11250.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].end |
11252.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4238].text |
治理的一個制度 |
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11252.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].end |
11254.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4239].text |
那希望能夠在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].start |
11254.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].end |
11256.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4240].text |
兩週內能夠提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].start |
11256.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].end |
11258.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4241].text |
115年6月底 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].start |
11258.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].end |
11260.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4242].text |
最新的統計 |
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11260.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].end |
11262.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4243].text |
在兩個月內能夠提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].start |
11262.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].end |
11264.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4244].text |
全國大專院校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].start |
11264.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].end |
11266.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4245].text |
住宿的一個壓力跟盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].start |
11266.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].end |
11268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4246].text |
優先的改善名單 |
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11268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].end |
11270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4247].text |
以及對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].start |
11270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].end |
11272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4248].text |
為參議改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].start |
11272.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].end |
11274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4249].text |
消極的學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].start |
11274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].end |
11276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4250].text |
主動輔導還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].start |
11276.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].end |
11278.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4251].text |
那個管考的一個機制能夠提供給 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].start |
11278.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].end |
11280.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4252].text |
辦辦我們來做這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].start |
11280.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].end |
11282.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4253].text |
關心跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].start |
11282.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].end |
11284.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4254].text |
研討 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].start |
11284.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].end |
11286.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4255].text |
我們可能需要跟各個大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].start |
11286.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].end |
11288.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4256].text |
去做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].start |
11288.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].end |
11290.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4257].text |
了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].start |
11290.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].end |
11292.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4258].text |
三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].start |
11292.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].end |
11294.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4259].text |
讓我們稍微跟大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].start |
11294.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].end |
11296.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4260].text |
這邊能夠他們也要去做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].start |
11296.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].end |
11298.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4261].text |
盤查 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].start |
11298.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].end |
11300.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4262].text |
我們再等你們的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].start |
11300.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].end |
11302.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4263].text |
那個書面報告來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].start |
11302.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].end |
11304.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4264].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].start |
11307.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].end |
11309.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4265].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].start |
11309.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].end |
11311.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4266].text |
請坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].start |
11312.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].end |
11314.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4267].text |
下一位有請吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].start |
11321.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].end |
11323.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4268].text |
謝謝主席有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].start |
11328.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].end |
11330.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4269].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].start |
11330.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].end |
11332.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4270].text |
我們看到教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].start |
11332.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].end |
11334.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4271].text |
其實宣布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].start |
11334.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].end |
11336.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4272].text |
蠻多新的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].start |
11336.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].end |
11338.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4273].text |
特別是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].start |
11338.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].end |
11340.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4274].text |
長期以來訴求的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].start |
11340.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].end |
11342.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4275].text |
包括行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].start |
11342.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].end |
11344.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4276].text |
加急終點費等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].start |
11344.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].end |
11346.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4277].text |
我們看到這兩年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].start |
11346.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].end |
11348.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4278].text |
其實都有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].start |
11348.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].end |
11350.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4279].text |
長俗的進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].start |
11350.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].end |
11352.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4280].text |
不過我的看法是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].start |
11352.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].end |
11354.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4281].text |
因為我們政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].start |
11354.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].end |
11356.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4282].text |
的發布 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].start |
11356.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].end |
11358.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4283].text |
政策的擬定之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].start |
11358.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].end |
11360.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4284].text |
總是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].start |
11360.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].end |
11362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4285].text |
有一個充分的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].start |
11362.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].end |
11364.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4286].text |
能夠面面俱到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].start |
11364.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].end |
11366.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4287].text |
那麼可以的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].start |
11366.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].end |
11368.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4288].text |
理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].start |
11368.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].end |
11370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4289].text |
不能夠納入的理由是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].start |
11370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].end |
11372.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4290].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].start |
11372.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].end |
11374.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4291].text |
我是希望說如果能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].start |
11374.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].end |
11376.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4292].text |
做足就不會在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].start |
11376.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].end |
11378.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4293].text |
發布一個政策之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].start |
11379.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].end |
11381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4294].text |
對我們這些民代而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].start |
11381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].end |
11383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4295].text |
我們就會接到很多的電話詢問 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].start |
11383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].end |
11385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4296].text |
這個可不可以那個怎麼沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].start |
11385.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].end |
11387.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[4297].text |
那好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].start |
11387.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].end |
11389.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4298].text |
即便是如此 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].start |
11389.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].end |
11391.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4299].text |
我們也希望在政策的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].start |
11391.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].end |
11393.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4300].text |
一個發布也能夠有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].start |
11393.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].end |
11395.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4301].text |
所謂的修正期 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].start |
11395.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].end |
11397.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4302].text |
廣納意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].start |
11397.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].end |
11399.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4303].text |
趕快的把它調整進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].start |
11399.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].end |
11401.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4304].text |
所以我今天在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].start |
11401.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].end |
11403.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4305].text |
是因為六月八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].start |
11403.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].end |
11405.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4306].text |
接到這一紙公文 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].start |
11405.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].end |
11407.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4307].text |
就是特別對於上一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].start |
11407.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].end |
11409.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4308].text |
調高終點費的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].start |
11409.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].end |
11411.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4309].text |
落掉了教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].start |
11411.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].end |
11413.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4310].text |
支援工作人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].start |
11413.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].end |
11415.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4311].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].start |
11415.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].end |
11417.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4312].text |
我其實來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].start |
11417.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].end |
11419.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4313].text |
講了好幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].start |
11419.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].end |
11421.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4314].text |
終於終點費調高就比較遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].start |
11421.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].end |
11423.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4315].text |
就接到好多人打電話來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].start |
11423.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].end |
11425.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4316].text |
那非常高興就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].start |
11425.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].end |
11427.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4317].text |
一月二十八號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].start |
11427.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].end |
11429.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4318].text |
我也有接到公文你們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].start |
11429.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].end |
11433.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4319].text |
願意把教職人員納進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].start |
11433.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].end |
11435.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4320].text |
但是行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].start |
11435.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].end |
11437.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4321].text |
拍板定案核定函 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].start |
11437.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].end |
11439.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4322].text |
很久 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].start |
11439.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].end |
11441.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4323].text |
從一月二十八號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].start |
11441.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].end |
11443.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4324].text |
你們說會納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].start |
11443.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].end |
11445.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4325].text |
那五個月當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].start |
11445.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].end |
11447.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4326].text |
其實我們又接到好多好多的電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].start |
11447.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].end |
11449.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4327].text |
每天問我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].start |
11449.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].end |
11451.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4328].text |
到底什麼時候開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].start |
11451.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].end |
11453.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4329].text |
那現在是還有一些拉掉的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].start |
11453.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].end |
11455.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4330].text |
我還是要跟次長講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].start |
11455.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].end |
11457.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4331].text |
例如 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].start |
11457.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].end |
11459.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4332].text |
那一些課後老師的終點費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].start |
11459.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].end |
11461.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4333].text |
也沒有被納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].start |
11461.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].end |
11463.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4334].text |
所以我想要了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].start |
11463.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].end |
11465.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4335].text |
另外我也要跟您提 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].start |
11465.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].end |
11467.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4336].text |
因為我諮詢過很多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].start |
11467.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].end |
11469.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4337].text |
針對俗語教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].start |
11469.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].end |
11471.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4338].text |
他很特別他可能跟其他的本土語 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].start |
11471.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].end |
11473.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4339].text |
像閩南語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].start |
11473.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].end |
11475.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4340].text |
手語老師都不一樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].start |
11475.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].end |
11477.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4341].text |
因為我有舉過一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].start |
11477.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].end |
11479.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4342].text |
真實的例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].start |
11479.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].end |
11481.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4343].text |
像台中市有一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].start |
11481.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].end |
11483.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4344].text |
已經七十歲的俗語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].start |
11483.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].end |
11485.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4345].text |
因為找不到老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].start |
11485.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].end |
11487.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4346].text |
他一個人兼十八個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].start |
11487.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].end |
11489.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4347].text |
兼十八個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].start |
11489.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].end |
11491.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4348].text |
這樣的例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].start |
11491.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].end |
11493.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4349].text |
全國各縣市比一比皆是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].start |
11493.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].end |
11495.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4350].text |
所以我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].start |
11495.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].end |
11497.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4351].text |
針對俗語老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].start |
11497.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].end |
11499.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4352].text |
他們是很特殊的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].start |
11499.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].end |
11501.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4353].text |
他們的交通費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].start |
11501.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].end |
11503.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4354].text |
我覺得應該要去做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].start |
11503.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].end |
11505.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4355].text |
考量把它提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].start |
11505.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].end |
11507.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4356].text |
那針對課後老師什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].start |
11507.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].end |
11509.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4357].text |
會不會納入啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].start |
11509.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].end |
11511.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4358].text |
還有這個俗語老師的交通費也沒有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].start |
11511.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].end |
11513.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4359].text |
那請次長說明一下您的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].start |
11513.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].end |
11515.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4360].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].start |
11515.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].end |
11517.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4361].text |
在課後的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].start |
11517.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].end |
11519.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4362].text |
剛剛其實署長提到因為已經召開過一次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].start |
11519.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].end |
11521.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4363].text |
我們需要進一步來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].start |
11521.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].end |
11523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4364].text |
民居公司在七月 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].start |
11523.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].end |
11525.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4365].text |
會再開一次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].start |
11525.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].end |
11527.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4366].text |
對因為它是一道家長的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].start |
11527.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].end |
11529.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4367].text |
所以我們在這個負擔跟地方政府我們必須要有些討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].start |
11529.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].end |
11531.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4368].text |
那另外在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].start |
11531.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].end |
11533.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4369].text |
俗語教師的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].start |
11533.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].end |
11535.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4370].text |
我是請 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].start |
11535.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].end |
11537.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4371].text |
謝謝署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].start |
11537.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].end |
11539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4372].text |
謝謝召委所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].start |
11539.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].end |
11541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4373].text |
一俗語專任教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].start |
11541.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].end |
11543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4374].text |
或是教學資源老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].start |
11543.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].end |
11545.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4375].text |
這兩類其實我們對他的福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].start |
11545.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].end |
11547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4376].text |
非常的重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].start |
11547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].end |
11549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4377].text |
那透過跟委員一直有互動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].start |
11549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].end |
11551.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4378].text |
相關的包含福利或是應有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].start |
11551.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].end |
11553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4379].text |
給予的協助照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].start |
11553.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].end |
11555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4380].text |
我覺得應該要比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].start |
11555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].end |
11557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4381].text |
整包 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].start |
11557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].end |
11559.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4382].text |
那我想說在兩個禮拜內到委員辦公室 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].start |
11559.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].end |
11561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4383].text |
看看新學年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].start |
11561.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].end |
11563.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4384].text |
我們能不能對這一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].start |
11563.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].end |
11565.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4385].text |
老師做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].start |
11565.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].end |
11567.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4386].text |
特別跟委員約時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].start |
11567.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].end |
11569.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4387].text |
非常感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].start |
11569.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].end |
11571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4388].text |
謝謝次長署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].start |
11571.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].end |
11573.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4389].text |
把我們的聲音聽進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].start |
11573.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].end |
11575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4390].text |
那我相信透過廣播系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].start |
11575.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].end |
11577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4391].text |
應該很多的老師也都會非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].start |
11577.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].end |
11579.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4392].text |
感謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].start |
11579.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].end |
11581.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4393].text |
那我在這邊其實我要接下來談 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].start |
11581.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].end |
11583.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4394].text |
的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].start |
11583.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].end |
11585.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4395].text |
3月19號的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].start |
11585.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].end |
11587.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4396].text |
我以校正小組召集人的身份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].start |
11587.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].end |
11589.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4397].text |
我有去參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].start |
11589.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].end |
11591.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4398].text |
教育部你們跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].start |
11591.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].end |
11593.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4399].text |
大專學生的團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].start |
11593.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].end |
11595.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4400].text |
學生團體代表辦的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].start |
11595.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].end |
11597.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4401].text |
大學法修法的一個討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].start |
11597.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].end |
11599.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4402].text |
那在那個當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].start |
11599.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].end |
11601.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4403].text |
其實我們就聽到了很多學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].start |
11601.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].end |
11603.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4404].text |
他們對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].start |
11603.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].end |
11605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4405].text |
大學法修法的一些看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].start |
11605.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].end |
11607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4406].text |
跟訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].start |
11607.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].end |
11609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4407].text |
那我也在6月4號 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].start |
11609.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].end |
11611.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4408].text |
也就是上個禮拜呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].start |
11611.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].end |
11613.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4409].text |
也陪同這些學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].start |
11613.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].end |
11615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4410].text |
跟他們一起召開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].start |
11615.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].end |
11617.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4411].text |
一個大學法修法的一個記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].start |
11617.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].end |
11619.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4412].text |
那我把他們的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].start |
11619.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].end |
11621.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4413].text |
我這樣子快速的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].start |
11621.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].end |
11623.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4414].text |
念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].start |
11623.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].end |
11625.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4415].text |
他們希望能夠提高學代的生活費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].start |
11625.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].end |
11627.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4416].text |
書籍費住宿費的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].start |
11627.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].end |
11629.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4417].text |
他們希望可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].start |
11629.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].end |
11631.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4418].text |
建立一個學代開學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].start |
11631.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].end |
11633.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[4419].text |
預播的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].start |
11634 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].end |
11636 |
| transcript.whisperx[4420].text |
關於緊急紓困的住學金 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].start |
11636 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].end |
11638 |
| transcript.whisperx[4421].text |
他們希望可以擴大到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].start |
11638 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].end |
11640 |
| transcript.whisperx[4422].text |
學生的個人疾病意外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].start |
11640 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].end |
11642 |
| transcript.whisperx[4423].text |
那住學的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].start |
11642 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].end |
11644 |
| transcript.whisperx[4424].text |
希望能夠獨立 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].start |
11644 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].end |
11646 |
| transcript.whisperx[4425].text |
來增加一個科目叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].start |
11646 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].end |
11648 |
| transcript.whisperx[4426].text |
多元生理用品補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].start |
11648 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].end |
11650 |
| transcript.whisperx[4427].text |
那住學的措施希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].start |
11650 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].end |
11652 |
| transcript.whisperx[4428].text |
可以放寬不動產限額的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].start |
11652 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].end |
11654 |
| transcript.whisperx[4429].text |
回歸到看家庭所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].start |
11654 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].end |
11656 |
| transcript.whisperx[4430].text |
再來就是他們希望取消 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].start |
11656 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].end |
11658 |
| transcript.whisperx[4431].text |
這種針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].start |
11658 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].end |
11660 |
| transcript.whisperx[4432].text |
這些打工的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].start |
11660 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].end |
11662 |
| transcript.whisperx[4433].text |
宿舍夜間門禁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].start |
11662 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].end |
11664 |
| transcript.whisperx[4434].text |
因為他們認為這是一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].start |
11664 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].end |
11666 |
| transcript.whisperx[4435].text |
隱為的歧視 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].start |
11666 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].end |
11668 |
| transcript.whisperx[4436].text |
那再來就是學生住宿的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].start |
11668 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].end |
11670 |
| transcript.whisperx[4437].text |
希望可以依法簽戶籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].start |
11670 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].end |
11672 |
| transcript.whisperx[4438].text |
而不會影響到他的宿舍分貝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].start |
11672 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].end |
11674 |
| transcript.whisperx[4439].text |
那我們當然都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].start |
11674 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].end |
11676 |
| transcript.whisperx[4440].text |
5月27號總統行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].start |
11676 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].end |
11678 |
| transcript.whisperx[4441].text |
都有頒布一個新的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].start |
11678 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].end |
11680 |
| transcript.whisperx[4442].text |
不管是學代降息 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].start |
11680 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].end |
11682 |
| transcript.whisperx[4443].text |
緩緩款款 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].start |
11682 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].end |
11684 |
| transcript.whisperx[4444].text |
或者是住學的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].start |
11684 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].end |
11686 |
| transcript.whisperx[4445].text |
我們都看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].start |
11686 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].end |
11688 |
| transcript.whisperx[4446].text |
那是更高的層級 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].start |
11688 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].end |
11690 |
| transcript.whisperx[4447].text |
更高度的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].start |
11690 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].end |
11692 |
| transcript.whisperx[4448].text |
當然非常好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].start |
11692 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].end |
11694 |
| transcript.whisperx[4449].text |
那我這樣子念 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].start |
11694 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].end |
11696 |
| transcript.whisperx[4450].text |
我只是要表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].start |
11696 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].end |
11698 |
| transcript.whisperx[4451].text |
針對學代的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].start |
11698 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].end |
11700 |
| transcript.whisperx[4452].text |
我們有就學代款辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].start |
11700 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].end |
11702 |
| transcript.whisperx[4453].text |
針對住學的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].start |
11702 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].end |
11704 |
| transcript.whisperx[4454].text |
我們有弱勢學生的住學計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].start |
11704 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].end |
11706 |
| transcript.whisperx[4455].text |
我想要請教一下次長或高教師長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].start |
11706.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].end |
11708.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4456].text |
針對學生的這些訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].start |
11708.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].end |
11710.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4457].text |
我們可以就這兩個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].start |
11710.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].end |
11712.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4458].text |
就可以處理好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].start |
11712.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].end |
11714.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4459].text |
謝謝委員的指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].start |
11714.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].end |
11716.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4460].text |
確實在3月份 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].start |
11716.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].end |
11718.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4461].text |
在立法院跟同學談過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].start |
11718.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].end |
11720.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4462].text |
回去我跟廖司長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].start |
11720.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].end |
11722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4463].text |
我們也就邀請了這些學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].start |
11722.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].end |
11724.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4464].text |
請他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].start |
11724.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].end |
11726.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4465].text |
把他們收集來意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].start |
11726.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].end |
11728.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4466].text |
主一就是偽奴隸出來這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].start |
11728.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].end |
11730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4467].text |
我們都已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].start |
11730.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].end |
11732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4468].text |
很細緻的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].start |
11732.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].end |
11734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4469].text |
而且有些東西已經做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].start |
11734.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].end |
11736.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4470].text |
比如說第一個在調高學代的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].start |
11736.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].end |
11738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4471].text |
書籍費住宿費我們也去問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].start |
11738.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].end |
11740.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4472].text |
現在就是在收集學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].start |
11740.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].end |
11742.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4473].text |
各個學校大概平均是怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].start |
11742.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].end |
11744.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4474].text |
我們怎樣把這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].start |
11744.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].end |
11746.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4475].text |
貸款額度可以拉高 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].start |
11746.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].end |
11748.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4476].text |
現在已經在收集各個學校的資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].start |
11748.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].end |
11750.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4477].text |
這我們已經有承諾同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].start |
11750.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].end |
11752.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4478].text |
第二個在開學預撥的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].start |
11752.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].end |
11754.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4479].text |
一個機制現在學費是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].start |
11754.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].end |
11756.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4480].text |
預撥的但是像書籍費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].start |
11756.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].end |
11758.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4481].text |
其他的費用是沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].start |
11758.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].end |
11760.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4482].text |
這部分高教師已經在4月就 |
| transcript.whisperx[4483].start |
11760.37 |
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新聞給大學跟承代銀行 |
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就是全面都是幫學生 |
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都先預繳掉了 |
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11766.37 |
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11768.37 |
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學生不用再做任何預繳 |
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緊急紓困金這個部分 |
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我們現在在調查學校過去給哪些項目 |
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我們希望把它放進來 |
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11774.37 |
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那在生理多元實驗 |
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11776.37 |
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11778.37 |
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生理多元的用品 |
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這部分也已經正在修法 |
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11782.37 |
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要放進去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4494].start |
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11784.37 |
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那在助學措施放寬普通產限額 |
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這個部分我們現在 |
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也在像我們幾位委員都 |
| transcript.whisperx[4497].start |
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提到可以去參考家庭 |
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11792.37 |
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收戶連鎖的等等 |
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11792.37 |
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11794.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4499].text |
我們現在也在收集這個數據來判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].start |
11794.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4500].end |
11796.37 |
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大概放寬到哪一些對象 |
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11796.37 |
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11798.37 |
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那打工跟宿舍門禁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].start |
11798.37 |
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11800.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4502].text |
上次在立法院同學也有一些主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].start |
11800.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].end |
11802.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4503].text |
我們現在也在跟積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[4504].start |
11802.37 |
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11804.37 |
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在跟學校討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4505].start |
11804.37 |
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11806.37 |
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是不是可以更適度來尊重學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4506].start |
11806.37 |
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11808.37 |
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他們的一些訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4507].start |
11808.37 |
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11810.37 |
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那助書使依法來簽戶籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[4508].start |
11810.37 |
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11812.37 |
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這塊也跟內政部做過確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[4509].start |
11812.37 |
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11814.37 |
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是完全沒有問題 |
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11814.37 |
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11816.37 |
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那我們也有要求學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4511].start |
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11818.37 |
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這部分要配合辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4512].start |
11818.37 |
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11820.37 |
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以上報告 |
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11822.37 |
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所以都已經可以處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].start |
11822.37 |
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11824.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4514].text |
對我聽起來就是全部都可以處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].start |
11824.37 |
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11826.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4515].text |
現在總統的想法應該也是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].start |
11826.37 |
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11828.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4516].text |
我們面對這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].start |
11828.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].end |
11830.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4517].text |
的一個少子化的時代來臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].start |
11832.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].end |
11834.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4518].text |
非常嚴峻的挑戰 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].start |
11834.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].end |
11836.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4519].text |
所以每一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].start |
11836.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].end |
11838.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4520].text |
每一個孩子都是學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].start |
11838.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].end |
11840.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4521].text |
或者是國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].start |
11840.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].end |
11842.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4522].text |
珍貴的財產 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].start |
11842.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].end |
11844.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4523].text |
所以我覺得能夠幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].start |
11844.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].end |
11846.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4524].text |
孩子願意讀書的孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].start |
11846.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].end |
11848.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4525].text |
能夠幫助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].start |
11848.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].end |
11850.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4526].text |
順利的就學畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].start |
11850.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].end |
11852.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4527].text |
踏入社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].start |
11852.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].end |
11854.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4528].text |
為我們的國家奉獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].start |
11854.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].end |
11856.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4529].text |
我們都應該要全力支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].start |
11856.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].end |
11858.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4530].text |
所以我今天學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].start |
11858.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].end |
11860.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4531].text |
我們的招尾也有排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].start |
11860.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].end |
11862.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4532].text |
但是我們都很在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].start |
11862.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].end |
11864.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4533].text |
學生的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].start |
11864.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].end |
11866.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4534].text |
有沒有獲得回應跟改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].start |
11866.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].end |
11868.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4535].text |
那我聽起來是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].start |
11868.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].end |
11870.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4536].text |
我自己針對原住民的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].start |
11870.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].end |
11872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4537].text |
其實原教法的第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].start |
11872.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].end |
11874.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4538].text |
我也有提法案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].start |
11874.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].end |
11876.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4539].text |
我也有做預算提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].start |
11876.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].end |
11878.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4540].text |
那我背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].start |
11878.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].end |
11880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4541].text |
我再重新強調一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].start |
11880.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].end |
11882.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4542].text |
就是我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].start |
11882.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].end |
11884.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4543].text |
103年原教法的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].start |
11884.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].end |
11886.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4544].text |
我們有根據第十一條說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].start |
11886.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].end |
11888.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4545].text |
要逐年來修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].start |
11888.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].end |
11890.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4546].text |
所以當時原教經費的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].start |
11890.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].end |
11892.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4547].text |
把1.2調到了1.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].start |
11892.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].end |
11894.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4548].text |
可是現在又超過了12年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].start |
11894.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].end |
11896.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4549].text |
我們原住民的人口數 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].start |
11896.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].end |
11898.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4550].text |
也來到了2.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].start |
11898.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].end |
11900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4551].text |
又受到財化法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].start |
11900.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].end |
11902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4552].text |
撥給地方的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].start |
11902.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].end |
11904.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4553].text |
所以在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].start |
11904.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].end |
11906.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4554].text |
我有不斷的要求說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].start |
11906.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].end |
11908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4555].text |
我們應該要來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].start |
11908.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].end |
11910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4556].text |
如何把原住民教育經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].start |
11910.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].end |
11912.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4557].text |
要因應這些修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].start |
11912.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].end |
11914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4558].text |
跟我們的整個物價波動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].start |
11914.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].end |
11916.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4559].text |
要去做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].start |
11916.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].end |
11918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4560].text |
調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].start |
11918.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].end |
11920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4561].text |
也獲得大家的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].start |
11920.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].end |
11922.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4562].text |
那我的看法是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].start |
11922.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].end |
11924.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4563].text |
因為如果我們要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].start |
11924.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].end |
11926.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4564].text |
回到我們應該有的水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].start |
11926.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].end |
11928.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4565].text |
我是認為教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].start |
11928.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].end |
11930.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4566].text |
跟原民會七比三的分擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].start |
11930.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].end |
11932.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4567].text |
教育部恐怕要增加八億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].start |
11932.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].end |
11934.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4568].text |
原民會要增加四億 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].start |
11934.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].end |
11936.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4569].text |
那到底教育部增加的八億 |
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11936.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].end |
11938.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4570].text |
要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].start |
11938.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].end |
11940.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4571].text |
我的看法是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].start |
11940.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].end |
11942.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4572].text |
我希望原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].start |
11942.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].end |
11944.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4573].text |
學雜費全免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].start |
11944.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].end |
11946.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4574].text |
學雜費全免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].start |
11946.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].end |
11948.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4575].text |
大專生全免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].start |
11948.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].end |
11950.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4576].text |
為什麼我這樣講 |
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11950.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].end |
11952.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4577].text |
因為兩年前賴清德總統 |
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11952.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].end |
11954.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4578].text |
宣布私立大專高中的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].start |
11954.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].end |
11956.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[4579].text |
這個學費的減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].start |
11957.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].end |
11959.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4580].text |
一年是3.5萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].start |
11959.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].end |
11961.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4581].text |
一個學年 |
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11961.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].end |
11963.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4582].text |
然後呢經濟弱勢的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].start |
11963.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].end |
11965.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4583].text |
又可以加碼1.5萬 |
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11965.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].end |
11967.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4584].text |
也就是變成5萬 |
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11967.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].end |
11969.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4585].text |
可是市長我有不斷的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].start |
11969.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].end |
11971.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4586].text |
原住民的學生 |
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11971.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].end |
11973.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4587].text |
他是只能折一 |
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11973.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].end |
11975.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4588].text |
所以呢他還是 |
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11975.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].end |
11977.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4589].text |
維持他原來的原住民的 |
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11977.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].end |
11979.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4590].text |
這個補助 |
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11979.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].end |
11981.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4591].text |
而且原住民的弱勢學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].start |
11981.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].end |
11983.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4592].text |
也是只能折一 |
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11983.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].end |
11985.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4593].text |
不能重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].start |
11985.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].end |
11987.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4594].text |
為什麼我特別這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].start |
11987.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].end |
11989.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4595].text |
古有民訓不換寡換不均 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].start |
11989.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].end |
11991.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4596].text |
明明原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].start |
11991.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].end |
11993.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4597].text |
大學生跟一般的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].start |
11993.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].end |
11995.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4598].text |
大學生出債學率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].start |
11995.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].end |
11997.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[4599].text |
是相差38.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].start |
11998.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].end |
12000.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4600].text |
我們現在不細究是什麼造成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].start |
12000.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].end |
12002.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4601].text |
但是就是有這麼大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].start |
12002.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].end |
12004.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4602].text |
落差的原住民學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].start |
12004.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].end |
12006.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4603].text |
是離開大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].start |
12006.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].end |
12008.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[4604].text |
他讀不下去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].start |
12008.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].end |
12010.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4605].text |
所以這個部分我們本來是要彌平 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].start |
12010.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].end |
12012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4606].text |
結果呢那個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].start |
12012.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].end |
12014.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[4607].text |
一上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].start |
12014.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].end |
12016.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[4608].text |
又把那個Gap又拉大 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].start |
12017.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].end |
12019.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4609].text |
那我們還來不及觀察 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].start |
12019.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].end |
12021.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4610].text |
他未來造成的效應是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].start |
12021.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].end |
12023.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4611].text |
但是我一直強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].start |
12023.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].end |
12025.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4612].text |
我們應該就要來做這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].start |
12025.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].end |
12027.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4613].text |
不曉得市長您的看法如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].start |
12027.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].end |
12029.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4614].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].start |
12029.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].end |
12031.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4615].text |
確實委員先前提醒我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].start |
12031.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].end |
12033.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4616].text |
在要注意這一塊就是說在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].start |
12033.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].end |
12035.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4617].text |
弱勢的學生之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].start |
12035.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].end |
12037.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4618].text |
跟原住民之間的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].start |
12037.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].end |
12039.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4619].text |
不要也是互相互斥的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].start |
12039.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].end |
12041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4620].text |
有沒有可能互相搭配 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].start |
12041.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].end |
12043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4621].text |
來協助經濟弱勢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].start |
12043.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].end |
12045.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4622].text |
原住民學生這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].start |
12045.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].end |
12047.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4623].text |
給他一些照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].start |
12047.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].end |
12049.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4624].text |
所以高雅市也有在做一些評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].start |
12049.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].end |
12051.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4625].text |
看看是不是在我們原民補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].start |
12051.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].end |
12053.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4626].text |
是比較屬於齊頭式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].start |
12053.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].end |
12055.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4627].text |
那針對經濟弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].start |
12055.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].end |
12057.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4628].text |
這邊是不是可以做個協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].start |
12057.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].end |
12059.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4629].text |
所以我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].start |
12059.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].end |
12061.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4630].text |
要增加就是我個人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].start |
12061.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].end |
12063.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4631].text |
強調啦就是原住民學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].start |
12063.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].end |
12065.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4632].text |
學雜費就全免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].start |
12065.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].end |
12067.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4633].text |
因為你本來原教經費就要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].start |
12067.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].end |
12069.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4634].text |
我希望這一塊是必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].start |
12069.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].end |
12071.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4635].text |
要做那另外就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].start |
12071.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].end |
12073.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4636].text |
關鍵人才的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].start |
12073.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].end |
12075.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4637].text |
這個部分我非常的高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].start |
12075.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].end |
12077.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4638].text |
我講給許多人聽他們也很期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].start |
12077.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].end |
12079.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4639].text |
十年之後應該會看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].start |
12079.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].end |
12081.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4640].text |
不一樣的一個原住民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].start |
12081.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].end |
12083.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4641].text |
教育高教的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].start |
12083.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].end |
12085.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4642].text |
所以這個部分我還是強烈的訴求 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].start |
12085.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].end |
12087.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4643].text |
那最後一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].start |
12087.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].end |
12089.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4644].text |
就是我很關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].start |
12089.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].end |
12091.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4645].text |
我們原住民學生的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].start |
12091.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].end |
12093.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4646].text |
那我有一種學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].start |
12093.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].end |
12095.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[4647].text |
要講給市長聽就是大五生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].start |
12096.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].end |
12098.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4648].text |
原住民呢自從 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].start |
12098.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].end |
12100.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4649].text |
要去修所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].start |
12100.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].end |
12102.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4650].text |
教育學程他是完全不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].start |
12102.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].end |
12104.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4651].text |
四年畢業 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].start |
12104.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].end |
12106.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4652].text |
還有雙修的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].start |
12106.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].end |
12108.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4653].text |
又加上很多的原住民學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].start |
12108.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].end |
12110.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4654].text |
還要加足語認證 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].start |
12110.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].end |
12112.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4655].text |
種種的因素 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].start |
12112.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].end |
12114.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[4656].text |
我要講的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].start |
12113.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].end |
12115.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4657].text |
如果他是因為優秀的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].start |
12117.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].end |
12119.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4658].text |
結果遇到被迫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].start |
12119.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].end |
12121.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4659].text |
要有第五年我希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].start |
12121.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].end |
12123.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4660].text |
這個大五的部分學雜費的減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].start |
12123.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].end |
12125.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4661].text |
要繼續的比照前四年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].start |
12125.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].end |
12127.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4662].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].start |
12127.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].end |
12129.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4663].text |
我想我們會來了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].start |
12129.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].end |
12131.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4664].text |
這個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].start |
12131.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].end |
12133.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4665].text |
只要學生是一個正常的學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].start |
12133.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].end |
12135.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4666].text |
他願意去學政府就應該給他支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].start |
12135.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].end |
12137.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4667].text |
那我跟那個市長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].start |
12137.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].end |
12139.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4668].text |
其實這個議題在昨天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].start |
12139.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].end |
12141.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4669].text |
校正委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].start |
12141.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].end |
12143.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4670].text |
有被提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].start |
12143.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].end |
12145.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4671].text |
那沒有得到好的答案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].start |
12145.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].end |
12147.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4672].text |
所以我今天特別的提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].start |
12147.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].end |
12149.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4673].text |
提高學生的畢業率 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].start |
12149.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].end |
12151.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4674].text |
不能夠去懲罰優秀的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].start |
12151.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].end |
12153.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4675].text |
而且他是有條件的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].start |
12153.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].end |
12155.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4676].text |
他不是所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].start |
12155.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].end |
12157.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4677].text |
我希望趕快來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].start |
12157.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].end |
12159.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4678].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].start |
12159.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].end |
12161.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4679].text |
沒問題這點我們來支持這樣的同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].start |
12161.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].end |
12163.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4680].text |
那另外就是知識中心的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].start |
12163.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].end |
12165.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4681].text |
我也希望放在原教經費增加裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].start |
12165.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].end |
12167.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4682].text |
我希望他變成一個常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].start |
12167.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].end |
12169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4683].text |
我希望他變成一個常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].start |
12169.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].end |
12171.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4684].text |
我希望他變成一個常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].start |
12171.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].end |
12173.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4685].text |
我希望他變成一個常態性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].start |
12171.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].end |
12173.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4686].text |
目前很少族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].start |
12173.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].end |
12175.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4687].text |
有完成知識中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].start |
12175.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].end |
12177.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4688].text |
知識族群的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].start |
12177.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].end |
12179.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4689].text |
而且我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].start |
12180.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].end |
12182.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4690].text |
原住民的各族群的知識 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].start |
12182.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].end |
12184.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4691].text |
你應該要搭配 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].start |
12184.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].end |
12186.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4692].text |
課程教材啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].start |
12186.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].end |
12188.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4693].text |
這兩個不能脫鉤啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].start |
12188.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].end |
12190.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4694].text |
因為原住民的知識是在跟學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].start |
12190.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].end |
12192.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4695].text |
跟我們的時間在賽跑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].start |
12192.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].end |
12194.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4696].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].start |
12194.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].end |
12196.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4697].text |
我希望把他變成一個常態性的計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].start |
12196.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].end |
12198.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4698].text |
也能夠納入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].start |
12198.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].end |
12200.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4699].text |
我們原住民教育的中長程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].start |
12200.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].end |
12202.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4700].text |
讓他穩定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].start |
12202.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].end |
12204.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4701].text |
完成所有族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].start |
12204.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].end |
12206.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4702].text |
他的知識的採集 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].start |
12206.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].end |
12208.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4703].text |
以及轉化為課程教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].start |
12208.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].end |
12210.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4704].text |
這個是我們必然要走的路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].start |
12210.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].end |
12212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4705].text |
而且非常的辛苦好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].start |
12212.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].end |
12214.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4706].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].start |
12214.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].end |
12216.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4707].text |
我們這個發展計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].start |
12216.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].end |
12218.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4708].text |
也有跟考選部原民會合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].start |
12218.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].end |
12220.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4709].text |
這個知識中心我如果一下沒做 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].start |
12220.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].end |
12222.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4710].text |
原民會有在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].start |
12222.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].end |
12224.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4711].text |
我會跟他合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].start |
12224.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].end |
12226.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4712].text |
我很高興今天也有排午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].start |
12226.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].end |
12228.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4713].text |
但是午餐22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].start |
12228.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].end |
12230.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4714].text |
已經全面了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].start |
12230.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].end |
12232.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4715].text |
但是我只有一個以前遺留下來的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].start |
12233.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].end |
12235.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4716].text |
可能次長知道或不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].start |
12235.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].end |
12237.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4717].text |
很多學校的老師長年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].start |
12237.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].end |
12239.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4718].text |
針對那些付不出學雜費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].start |
12239.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].end |
12241.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4719].text |
午餐費學校帶說帶辦費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].start |
12241.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].end |
12243.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4720].text |
變呆帳啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].start |
12244.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].end |
12246.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4721].text |
最後都變成是老師導師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].start |
12246.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].end |
12248.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4722].text |
直接吸收 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].start |
12248.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].end |
12250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4723].text |
所以我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].start |
12250.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].end |
12252.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4724].text |
雖然我們未來午餐會全免 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].start |
12252.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].end |
12254.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4725].text |
但是還是有學雜費 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].start |
12254.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].end |
12256.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4726].text |
帶說帶辦費的呆帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].start |
12256.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].end |
12258.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4727].text |
我希望去研議一個合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].start |
12258.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].end |
12260.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4728].text |
可以避免轉嫁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].start |
12260.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].end |
12262.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4729].text |
這個給第一線導師的一個精進做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].start |
12262.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].end |
12264.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4730].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].start |
12263.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].end |
12265.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4731].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].start |
12265.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].end |
12267.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4732].text |
因為我們過去針對弱勢學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].start |
12267.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].end |
12269.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4733].text |
是有一些21億的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].start |
12269.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].end |
12271.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4734].text |
所以我們來瞭解一下狀況是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].start |
12271.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].end |
12273.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4735].text |
不要造成老師的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].start |
12273.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].end |
12275.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4736].text |
不要造成學校或者是老師的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].start |
12275.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].end |
12277.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4737].text |
現在我們的老師已經很珍貴了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].start |
12277.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].end |
12279.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[4738].text |
我們已經是要想方設法 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].start |
12281.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].end |
12283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4739].text |
回復我們老師的尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].start |
12283.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].end |
12285.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4740].text |
提升他們的待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].start |
12285.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].end |
12287.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4741].text |
改善他們的一個環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].start |
12287.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].end |
12289.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4742].text |
讓我們的老師能夠安心的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].start |
12289.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].end |
12291.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4743].text |
我們國家棟樑好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].start |
12291.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].end |
12293.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4744].text |
謝謝市長謝謝署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].start |
12293.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].end |
12295.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[4745].text |
謝謝召委主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].start |
12297.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].end |
12299.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[4746].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].start |
12299.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].end |
12301.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4747].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].start |
12306.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].end |
12308.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4748].text |
下一位議員之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].start |
12321.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].end |
12323.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4749].text |
謝謝主席麻煩請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].start |
12324.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].end |
12326.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[4750].text |
麻煩請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].start |
12329.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].end |
12331.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4751].text |
館委好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].start |
12331.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].end |
12333.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4752].text |
我相信次長剛剛早上你到教育文化委員會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].start |
12333.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].end |
12335.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4753].text |
你應該看到外面有一整排的記者 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].start |
12335.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].end |
12337.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4754].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].start |
12337.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].end |
12339.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4755].text |
我們教育文化委員會何時有那麼多記者過 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].start |
12340.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].end |
12342.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4756].text |
那為什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].start |
12342.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].end |
12344.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4757].text |
因為現在教育的議題是全國關注的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].start |
12344.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].end |
12346.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4758].text |
大家都很期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].start |
12346.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].end |
12348.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4759].text |
來到這邊碰到教育部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].start |
12348.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].end |
12350.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4760].text |
鄭應耀先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].start |
12350.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].end |
12352.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4761].text |
詢問他現在教育的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].start |
12352.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].end |
12354.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4762].text |
但是很遺憾的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].start |
12354.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].end |
12356.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4763].text |
今天我們羅廷瑋召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].start |
12356.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].end |
12358.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4764].text |
有關於教育部的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].start |
12358.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].end |
12360.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4765].text |
進行詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].start |
12360.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].end |
12362.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4766].text |
而且大家那麼關心教育現在所面臨到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].start |
12362.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].end |
12364.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4767].text |
現在已經是全國關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].start |
12364.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].end |
12366.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[4768].text |
但鄭應耀部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].start |
12365.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].end |
12367.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4769].text |
過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].start |
12366.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].end |
12368.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[4770].text |
請降 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].start |
12368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].end |
12370.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4771].text |
請問一下他是有什麼重要的事不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].start |
12371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].end |
12373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4772].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].start |
12373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].end |
12375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4773].text |
因為部長早上另外有行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].start |
12375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].end |
12377.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4774].text |
另外有行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].start |
12377.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].end |
12379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4775].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].start |
12379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].end |
12381.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4776].text |
那麼多委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].start |
12381.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].end |
12383.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4777].text |
一三四在開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].start |
12383.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].end |
12385.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4778].text |
這麼多委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].start |
12385.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].end |
12387.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4779].text |
其他委員會的部長主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].start |
12387.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].end |
12389.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4780].text |
都可以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].start |
12389.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].end |
12391.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4781].text |
只有我們鄭應耀部長在全國民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].start |
12391.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].end |
12393.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4782].text |
在關注教育問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].start |
12393.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].end |
12395.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4783].text |
希望他發表一些聲音的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].start |
12395.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].end |
12397.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[4784].text |
他不願意面對社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].start |
12397.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].end |
12399.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4785].text |
這什麼重要的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].start |
12399.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].end |
12401.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4786].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].start |
12401.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].end |
12403.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4787].text |
因為早上部長到行政院院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].start |
12403.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].end |
12405.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4788].text |
有教育部的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].start |
12405.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].end |
12407.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[4789].text |
教育部什麼重要的提案你講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].start |
12407.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].end |
12409.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4790].text |
什麼重要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].start |
12410.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].end |
12412.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[4791].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].start |
12411.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].end |
12413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4792].text |
什麼重要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].start |
12413.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].end |
12415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4793].text |
也是跟我們這次在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].start |
12415.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].end |
12417.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4794].text |
就學貸款相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].start |
12417.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].end |
12419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4795].text |
一個精進措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].start |
12419.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].end |
12421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4796].text |
那為什麼今天立法院就是在討論這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].start |
12421.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].end |
12423.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[4797].text |
然後他不願意來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].start |
12423.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].end |
12425.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[4798].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].start |
12424.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].end |
12426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4799].text |
我們現在部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].start |
12426.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].end |
12428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4800].text |
因為他在行政院院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].start |
12428.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].end |
12430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4801].text |
他必須去針對我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].start |
12430.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].end |
12432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4802].text |
跟委員的立場是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].start |
12432.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].end |
12434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4803].text |
什麼立場一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].start |
12434.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].end |
12436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4804].text |
今天雖然排的是學貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].start |
12436.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].end |
12438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4805].text |
雖然排的是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].start |
12438.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].end |
12440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4806].text |
但是大家很希望部長針對現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].start |
12440.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].end |
12442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4807].text |
教育的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].start |
12442.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].end |
12444.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4808].text |
包括教育現場失序的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].start |
12444.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].end |
12446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4809].text |
來對社會大眾說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].start |
12446.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].end |
12448.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4810].text |
結果用了一個他那麼重視這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].start |
12448.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].end |
12450.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4811].text |
你說學貸是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].start |
12450.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].end |
12452.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4812].text |
那麼重視那我們學貸三把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].start |
12452.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].end |
12454.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4813].text |
教育部有版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].start |
12454.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].end |
12456.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4814].text |
教育部有沒有版本嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].start |
12456.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].end |
12458.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4815].text |
有沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].start |
12458.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].end |
12460.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4816].text |
有沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].start |
12460.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].end |
12462.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4817].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].start |
12462.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].end |
12464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4818].text |
營養午餐法有沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].start |
12464.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].end |
12466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4819].text |
那就是不夠嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].start |
12466.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].end |
12468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4820].text |
就是因為不夠學生團體也覺得不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].start |
12468.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].end |
12470.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4821].text |
所以大家才覺得要入法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].start |
12470.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].end |
12472.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4822].text |
如果那麼重視的話你怎麼沒有立刻宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].start |
12472.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].end |
12474.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4823].text |
你具體的精進做為是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].start |
12474.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].end |
12476.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4824].text |
為什麼學生團體會覺得不夠呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].start |
12476.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].end |
12478.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4825].text |
市長啊大家都是明眼人 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].start |
12479.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].end |
12481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4826].text |
今天部長不願意來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].start |
12481.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].end |
12483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4827].text |
就是不想要面對社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].start |
12483.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].end |
12485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4828].text |
對於現在教育失序的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].start |
12485.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].end |
12487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4829].text |
我就問啦請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].start |
12487.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].end |
12489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4830].text |
教育部長這幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].start |
12489.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].end |
12491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4831].text |
這一兩個禮拜包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].start |
12491.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].end |
12493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4832].text |
有高雄的國小的不幸 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].start |
12493.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].end |
12495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4833].text |
老師的不幸事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].start |
12495.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].end |
12497.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4834].text |
包括一連串的教育失序的亂象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].start |
12497.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].end |
12499.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[4835].text |
部長出來講話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].start |
12499.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].end |
12501.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4836].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].start |
12501.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].end |
12503.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4837].text |
跟委員報告教育部是一體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].start |
12503.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].end |
12505.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4838].text |
部長有沒有出來講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].start |
12505.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].end |
12507.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4839].text |
那不然你來當部長好了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].start |
12507.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].end |
12509.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4840].text |
你可以說因為教育部是一體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].start |
12509.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].end |
12511.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4841].text |
所以部長就不用講話喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].start |
12511.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].end |
12513.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[4842].text |
他是教育部的大家長耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].start |
12514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].end |
12516.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4843].text |
他的態度可以影響整個教育政策耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].start |
12516.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].end |
12518.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4844].text |
所以大家想要知道他的聲音嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].start |
12521.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].end |
12523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4845].text |
今天一整天大家都在講那個鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].start |
12523.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].end |
12525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4846].text |
鐵拳教育啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].start |
12525.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].end |
12527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4847].text |
對沒有錯鐵拳教育很紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].start |
12527.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].end |
12529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4848].text |
也很多人Cue我去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].start |
12529.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].end |
12531.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4849].text |
因為他們都知道我長期在關注教育議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].start |
12531.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].end |
12533.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4850].text |
老師的權益很多人Cue我去看 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].start |
12533.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].end |
12535.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4851].text |
我也去看了可是市長你知道為什麼鐵拳教育會這麼紅嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].start |
12537.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].end |
12539.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4852].text |
是因為大家很有共鳴啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].start |
12539.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].end |
12541.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4853].text |
大家看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].start |
12541.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].end |
12543.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4854].text |
韓國他們因為很多也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].start |
12543.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].end |
12545.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4855].text |
政治真事他們把很多他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].start |
12545.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].end |
12547.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4856].text |
教育現場的失序狀況把它演出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].start |
12547.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].end |
12549.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4857].text |
然後他有一個英雄 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].start |
12549.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].end |
12551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4858].text |
教拳局的督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].start |
12551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].end |
12553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4859].text |
可以去解決這些教育亂象 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].start |
12553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].end |
12555.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4860].text |
當然這是戲劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].start |
12555.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].end |
12557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4861].text |
有一些在現實生活不太可能存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].start |
12557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].end |
12559.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4862].text |
可是問題是大家可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].start |
12559.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].end |
12561.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4863].text |
在現實上面的壓力已經不滿 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].start |
12561.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].end |
12563.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4864].text |
透過戲劇的方式得到抒發 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].start |
12563.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].end |
12565.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4865].text |
所以鐵拳教育才這麼紅啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].start |
12565.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].end |
12567.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4866].text |
但是為什麼我們這邊都沒有共鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].start |
12567.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].end |
12569.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4867].text |
因為台灣的教育跟韓國 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].start |
12569.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].end |
12571.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4868].text |
面臨到一樣的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].start |
12571.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].end |
12573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4869].text |
可是我們的鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].start |
12573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].end |
12575.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4870].text |
我們的教拳局在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].start |
12575.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].end |
12577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4871].text |
我們的部長在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].start |
12577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].end |
12579.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4872].text |
我們的任何教育部的官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].start |
12579.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].end |
12581.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4873].text |
可以跟我們的家長老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].start |
12581.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].end |
12583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4874].text |
學生講說你們的解決方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].start |
12583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].end |
12585.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4875].text |
是什麼嗎沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].start |
12585.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].end |
12587.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4876].text |
部長躲起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].start |
12586.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].end |
12588.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[4877].text |
我給你看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].start |
12589.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].end |
12591.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[4878].text |
這個等一下再秀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].start |
12591.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].end |
12593.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[4879].text |
這個就是那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].start |
12593.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].end |
12595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4880].text |
鐵拳你沒看過嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].start |
12595.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].end |
12597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4881].text |
這就是鐵拳教育的部長啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].start |
12597.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].end |
12599.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4882].text |
他說我們來建立一個不會再有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].start |
12599.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].end |
12601.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[4883].text |
老師因為投訴而死去的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].start |
12603.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].end |
12605.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[4884].text |
第五集啦第五集就是在演 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].start |
12606.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].end |
12608.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[4885].text |
老師被濫訴啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].start |
12608.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].end |
12610.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4886].text |
前面還有一集是演說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].start |
12610.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].end |
12612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4887].text |
老師因為管教學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].start |
12612.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].end |
12614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4888].text |
學生不滿啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].start |
12614.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].end |
12616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4889].text |
故意營造說老師性騷擾他 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].start |
12616.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].end |
12618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4890].text |
但是其實沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].start |
12618.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].end |
12620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4891].text |
老師也因為這樣走上絕路啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].start |
12620.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].end |
12622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4892].text |
我之前就有諮詢過部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].start |
12622.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].end |
12624.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4893].text |
我說現在你們去看網路 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].start |
12624.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].end |
12626.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4894].text |
一堆學生在分享怎麼把 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].start |
12626.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].end |
12628.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4895].text |
討厭的老師趕走 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].start |
12628.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].end |
12630.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4896].text |
也許比較兇的老師也許管教比較淹的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].start |
12630.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].end |
12632.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4897].text |
怎麼趕走檢舉他性平就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].start |
12632.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].end |
12634.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4898].text |
因為性平很主觀 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].start |
12635.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].end |
12637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4899].text |
這些事情都發生在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].start |
12637.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].end |
12639.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4900].text |
我們的台灣的教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].start |
12639.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].end |
12641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4901].text |
是啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].start |
12641.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].end |
12643.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4902].text |
那我們的部長在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].start |
12643.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].end |
12645.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4903].text |
戲劇裡面的部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].start |
12645.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].end |
12647.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4904].text |
從去年開始我們就有一連串 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].start |
12647.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].end |
12649.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4905].text |
跟第一場戰舞跟加拿大跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].start |
12649.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].end |
12651.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4906].text |
最近幾天人家的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].start |
12651.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].end |
12653.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4907].text |
戲劇裡面的部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].start |
12653.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].end |
12655.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4908].text |
面對很多教育的現場問題的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].start |
12655.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].end |
12657.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4909].text |
自己站上第一線面對媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].start |
12657.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].end |
12659.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4910].text |
回答問題我們部長咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].start |
12659.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].end |
12661.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[4911].text |
你看一下我們部長在幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].start |
12662.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].end |
12664.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[4912].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].start |
12665.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].end |
12667.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4913].text |
上一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].start |
12666.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].end |
12668.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4914].text |
有一頁部長去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].start |
12668.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].end |
12670.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[4915].text |
去雲林的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].start |
12671.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].end |
12673.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4916].text |
啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].start |
12674.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].end |
12676.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4917].text |
我剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].start |
12676.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].end |
12678.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4918].text |
我注意沒有放啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].start |
12678.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].end |
12680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4919].text |
他去哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].start |
12680.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].end |
12682.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4920].text |
去彰化啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].start |
12682.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].end |
12684.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[4921].text |
這兩天去彰化參加民進黨辦的活動啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].start |
12684.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].end |
12686.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[4922].text |
跟農業部長陳俊濟啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].start |
12687.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].end |
12689.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[4923].text |
去參加民進黨辦的活動就很有時間啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].start |
12692.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].end |
12694.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4924].text |
後面的人你要不要直接來回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].start |
12694.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].end |
12696.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[4925].text |
要不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].start |
12695.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].end |
12697.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[4926].text |
要不要你直接來回答好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].start |
12698.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].end |
12700.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4927].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].start |
12700.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].end |
12702.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4928].text |
跟我們報告其實部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].start |
12702.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].end |
12704.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4929].text |
部長有時間去參加民進黨辦的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].start |
12704.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].end |
12706.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4930].text |
但是面對現在大家對教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].start |
12706.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].end |
12708.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4931].text |
眾不滿部長呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].start |
12708.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].end |
12710.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4932].text |
協尋部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].start |
12710.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].end |
12712.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4933].text |
連今天都不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].start |
12712.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].end |
12714.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4934].text |
那某種不願意出來面對國會 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].start |
12714.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].end |
12716.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[4935].text |
為什麼不願意出來面對媒體 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].start |
12718.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].end |
12720.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4936].text |
部長從去年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].start |
12720.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].end |
12722.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4937].text |
我們就一直帶著我們部裡面的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].start |
12722.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].end |
12724.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4938].text |
我們針對現場遇到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].start |
12724.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].end |
12726.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4939].text |
包含校事衛生問題 老師的管教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].start |
12726.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].end |
12728.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4940].text |
是喔 你真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].start |
12728.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].end |
12730.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4941].text |
都有真的自我感覺良好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].start |
12730.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].end |
12732.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4942].text |
今天大家就是要來問這個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].start |
12732.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].end |
12734.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[4943].text |
媒體也是要來問這個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].start |
12734.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].end |
12736.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[4944].text |
拜拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].start |
12735.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].end |
12737.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4945].text |
這樣的措施從今年 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].start |
12737.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].end |
12739.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4946].text |
就是不夠嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].start |
12739.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].end |
12741.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4947].text |
還是市長你覺得已經做得很好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].start |
12741.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].end |
12743.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4948].text |
我們希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].start |
12743.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].end |
12745.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4949].text |
如果很好了這幾天大家會炸鍋嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].start |
12745.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].end |
12747.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4950].text |
教育議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].start |
12747.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].end |
12749.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4951].text |
本來大家關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].start |
12749.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].end |
12751.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4952].text |
沒那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].start |
12751.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].end |
12753.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4953].text |
就除了我們教育委員會我們很多委員在關注之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].start |
12753.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].end |
12755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4954].text |
現在大家都在關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].start |
12755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].end |
12757.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4955].text |
結果部長咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].start |
12758.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].end |
12760.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4956].text |
我還是跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].start |
12760.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].end |
12762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4957].text |
部長從去年開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].start |
12762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].end |
12764.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4958].text |
你是次長你當然要這樣講嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].start |
12764.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].end |
12766.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4959].text |
因為他是一長官嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].start |
12766.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].end |
12768.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4960].text |
但是你們跟一般的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].start |
12768.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].end |
12770.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4961].text |
跟老師 跟學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].start |
12770.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].end |
12772.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4962].text |
跟家長的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].start |
12772.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].end |
12774.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4963].text |
差很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].start |
12774.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].end |
12776.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4964].text |
次長我不為難你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].start |
12776.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].end |
12778.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4965].text |
作為他是你的長官你當然要說他的好話 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].start |
12778.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].end |
12780.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4966].text |
但你越說其實越幫他扣分 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].start |
12780.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].end |
12782.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4967].text |
因為你越幫他擦脂裸粉 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].start |
12782.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].end |
12784.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4968].text |
大家的感受會覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].start |
12784.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].end |
12786.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4969].text |
你們怎麼感受 自我感覺這麼良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].start |
12786.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].end |
12788.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4970].text |
第一個啦 爛樹的問題趕快解決啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].start |
12790.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].end |
12792.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[4971].text |
你剛剛講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].start |
12792.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].end |
12794.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4972].text |
那個現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].start |
12794.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].end |
12796.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4973].text |
什麼 建案的只剩兩成 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].start |
12796.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].end |
12798.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4974].text |
投訴投訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].start |
12798.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].end |
12800.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4975].text |
最後進到消防會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].start |
12800.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].end |
12802.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4976].text |
消防委員去調查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].start |
12802.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].end |
12804.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[4977].text |
已經從八成二降到兩成二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].start |
12805.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].end |
12807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4978].text |
那這兩成之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].start |
12807.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].end |
12809.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[4979].text |
那這兩成之後的爛數是多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].start |
12810.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].end |
12812.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4980].text |
這是我們在這半年來的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].start |
12812.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].end |
12814.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4981].text |
我們在七月份中旬的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].start |
12814.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].end |
12816.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4982].text |
會有一個更明確的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].start |
12816.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].end |
12818.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4983].text |
的檢討分析到時候也可以跟委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].start |
12818.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].end |
12820.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4984].text |
做說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].start |
12820.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].end |
12822.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4985].text |
在消防會議一月份改革之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].start |
12822.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].end |
12824.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4986].text |
現在第一個兩成還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].start |
12824.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].end |
12826.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4987].text |
很多啦 第二 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].start |
12826.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].end |
12828.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4988].text |
兩成進去之後會不會兩成都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].start |
12828.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].end |
12830.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4989].text |
爛數 這才是最關鍵的 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].start |
12830.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].end |
12832.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4990].text |
問題嗎 所以你要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].start |
12832.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].end |
12834.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4991].text |
解決爛數的問題不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].start |
12834.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].end |
12836.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4992].text |
喜之之地講說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].start |
12836.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].end |
12838.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4993].text |
成案的只剩兩成不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].start |
12838.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].end |
12840.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[4994].text |
這爛數 這第一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].start |
12841.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].end |
12843.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[4995].text |
第二件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].start |
12844.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].end |
12846.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[4996].text |
一個老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].start |
12846.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].end |
12848.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[4997].text |
被捅 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].start |
12847.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].end |
12849.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[4998].text |
被學生捅屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].start |
12849.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].end |
12851.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[4999].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].start |
12850.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].end |
12852.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5000].text |
老師在寫黑板 一個女老師喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].start |
12853.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].end |
12855.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[5001].text |
屁股 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].start |
12854.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].end |
12856.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5002].text |
本人試著把學生推開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].start |
12856.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].end |
12858.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5003].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].start |
12858.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].end |
12860.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5004].text |
老師被處分 為什麼呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].start |
12860.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].end |
12862.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5005].text |
因為寫這個報告的人是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].start |
12862.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].end |
12864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5006].text |
即使被行為人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].start |
12864.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].end |
12866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5007].text |
故意戳行為人屁股 就學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].start |
12866.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].end |
12868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5008].text |
是故意戳行為人屁股 甚至是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].start |
12868.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].end |
12870.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5009].text |
戳中肛門 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].start |
12870.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].end |
12872.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5010].text |
但身為老師還是不應該有傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].start |
12872.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].end |
12874.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5011].text |
學生的行為 所以他被處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].start |
12875.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].end |
12877.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5012].text |
老師本人試著把學生推開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].start |
12877.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].end |
12879.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5013].text |
自衛士 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].start |
12880.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].end |
12882.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5014].text |
結果他被處分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].start |
12882.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].end |
12884.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[5015].text |
市長你覺得OK嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].start |
12883.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].end |
12885.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5016].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].start |
12885.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].end |
12887.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5017].text |
因為這部分我們會請宜蘭縣政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].start |
12887.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].end |
12889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5018].text |
你覺得OK嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].start |
12889.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].end |
12891.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5019].text |
如果從目前我看到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].start |
12891.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].end |
12893.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5020].text |
訊息來看確實有重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].start |
12893.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].end |
12895.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5021].text |
整理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].start |
12895.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].end |
12897.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5022].text |
那太誇張了嘛 這個就校事會議啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].start |
12897.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].end |
12899.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5023].text |
你們校事會議引進了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].start |
12899.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].end |
12901.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5024].text |
所謂的外部專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].start |
12901.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].end |
12903.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5025].text |
或者是什麼家長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].start |
12903.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].end |
12905.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5026].text |
這就是一個 據我了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].start |
12905.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].end |
12907.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5027].text |
是一個家長委員寫的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].start |
12907.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].end |
12909.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[5028].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].start |
12909.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].end |
12911.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5029].text |
在校事會的人才資料庫裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].start |
12911.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].end |
12913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5030].text |
我們也會有一些定期的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].start |
12913.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].end |
12915.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5031].text |
這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].start |
12915.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].end |
12917.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5032].text |
市長 這就是一個很大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].start |
12917.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].end |
12919.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5033].text |
這一種狀況非常多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].start |
12919.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].end |
12921.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5034].text |
只是因為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].start |
12921.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].end |
12923.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[5035].text |
有網路上能PO出來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].start |
12923.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].end |
12925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5036].text |
那你今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].start |
12925.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].end |
12927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5037].text |
校事會議為什麼變成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].start |
12927.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].end |
12929.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5038].text |
當初跟你們教育部一起推校事會議的人本基金會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].start |
12932.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].end |
12934.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5039].text |
有沒有仇私 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].start |
12934.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].end |
12936.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5040].text |
我看到你知道他講什麼嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].start |
12936.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].end |
12938.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5041].text |
他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].start |
12937.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].end |
12939.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5042].text |
哎呀 老師們也不要因為被濫訴啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].start |
12939.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].end |
12941.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5043].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].start |
12941.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].end |
12943.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5044].text |
失去了原本跟學生的關係嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].start |
12943.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].end |
12945.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5045].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].start |
12945.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].end |
12947.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5046].text |
校事會議調查完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].start |
12947.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].end |
12949.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5047].text |
如果老師沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].start |
12949.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].end |
12951.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5048].text |
也是還老師清白啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].start |
12951.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].end |
12953.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5049].text |
哇塞 站著講話不腰疼耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].start |
12954.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].end |
12956.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5050].text |
那就不要台北調查看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].start |
12957.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].end |
12959.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5051].text |
所有的老師雖然被調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].start |
12959.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].end |
12961.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5052].text |
最後還清白 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].start |
12961.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].end |
12963.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5053].text |
但是經歷四到六個月煎熬耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].start |
12963.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].end |
12965.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5054].text |
很多老師講說這個調查過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].start |
12965.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].end |
12967.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[5055].text |
就是羞辱 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].start |
12966.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].end |
12968.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5056].text |
被扒了好幾層皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].start |
12969.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].end |
12971.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5057].text |
而且我們校事會議一個最誇張的事情就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].start |
12971.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].end |
12973.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5058].text |
我之前也質詢過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].start |
12973.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].end |
12975.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5059].text |
行政院長卓榮泰啦 我不知道他有沒有重視啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].start |
12976 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].end |
12978 |
| transcript.whisperx[5060].text |
他也覺得不合理啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].start |
12978 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].end |
12980 |
| transcript.whisperx[5061].text |
但是校事會議依然沒有改革 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].start |
12980 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].end |
12982 |
| transcript.whisperx[5062].text |
就是所有的 我還沒講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].start |
12982 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].end |
12984 |
| transcript.whisperx[5063].text |
講到卓榮泰你就急著護航是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].start |
12984.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].end |
12986.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5064].text |
我們再進入 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].start |
12986.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].end |
12988.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5065].text |
我還沒有問問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].start |
12988.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].end |
12990.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5066].text |
我要問什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].start |
12990.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].end |
13000.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[5067].text |
請不吝點贊訂閱轉發打賞支持明鏡與點點欄目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].start |
12991.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].end |
12993.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5068].text |
我還沒問 我跟他講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].start |
12993.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].end |
12995.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5069].text |
所有的司法都是無罪推定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].start |
12995.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].end |
12997.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5070].text |
只有校事會議是有罪推定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].start |
12997.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].end |
12999.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5071].text |
他覺得合不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].start |
12999.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].end |
13001.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5072].text |
他還覺得不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].start |
13001.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].end |
13003.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5073].text |
老師被投訴之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].start |
13003.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].end |
13005.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5074].text |
所有老師要自己收集資料去自證自己無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].start |
13005.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].end |
13007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5075].text |
他還覺得不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].start |
13007.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].end |
13009.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5076].text |
老師被投訴之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].start |
13009.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].end |
13011.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5077].text |
所有老師要自己收集資料去自證自己無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].start |
13013.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].end |
13015.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5078].text |
他光收集資料就好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].start |
13015.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].end |
13017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5079].text |
最後證明無罪啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].start |
13017.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].end |
13019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5080].text |
結果呢 都不用被客了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].start |
13019.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].end |
13021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5081].text |
心情都受到影響了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].start |
13021.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].end |
13023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5082].text |
被扒了幾層皮之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].start |
13023.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].end |
13025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5083].text |
人本積極會的講說 這也是證明清白機會啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].start |
13025.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].end |
13027.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[5084].text |
你不要因為這樣難過嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].start |
13028.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].end |
13030.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5085].text |
校事會已經成為一個非常扭曲的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].start |
13030.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].end |
13032.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[5086].text |
對於老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].start |
13033.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].end |
13035.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5087].text |
充滿了仇恨 寧可錯殺一百不可放過一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].start |
13035.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].end |
13037.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5088].text |
充滿了仇恨 寧可錯殺一百不可放過一人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].start |
13037.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].end |
13039.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[5089].text |
所以才會造成這樣子爛數的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].start |
13041.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].end |
13043.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5090].text |
你們到底教育部知不知道問題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].start |
13043.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].end |
13045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5091].text |
我想跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].start |
13045.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].end |
13047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5092].text |
您講的這些事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].start |
13047.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].end |
13049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5093].text |
可能在去年12月以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].start |
13049.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].end |
13051.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5094].text |
在現場有可能發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].start |
13051.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].end |
13053.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5095].text |
但是在今年1月部裡面針對校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].start |
13053.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].end |
13055.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5096].text |
我們有做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].start |
13054.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].end |
13056.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5097].text |
不准立民選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].start |
13056.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].end |
13058.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5098].text |
案件的分流 輔導資訊的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].start |
13058.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].end |
13060.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5099].text |
不准立民選舉 案件的分流 輔導資訊的公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].start |
13060.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].end |
13062.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5100].text |
那甚至說調查報告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].start |
13062.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].end |
13064.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5101].text |
所謂的機關也可以再做一些審視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].start |
13064.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].end |
13066.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5102].text |
加強事後的監督 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].start |
13066.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].end |
13068.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5103].text |
是不是讓我們有這半 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].start |
13068.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].end |
13070.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5104].text |
你看這半年的事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].start |
13070.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].end |
13072.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5105].text |
有罪推進呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].start |
13072.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].end |
13074.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5106].text |
沒有所謂的有罪推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].start |
13074.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].end |
13076.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5107].text |
就是有罪推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].start |
13076.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].end |
13078.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[5108].text |
老師要自證自己無罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].start |
13079.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].end |
13081.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5109].text |
你是不是管國教的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].start |
13081.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].end |
13083.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5110].text |
我是督導高價 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].start |
13083.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].end |
13085.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5111].text |
但是對於校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].start |
13087.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].end |
13089.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5112].text |
有罪推進就是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].start |
13090.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].end |
13092.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5113].text |
我們沒有這樣子的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].start |
13092.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].end |
13094.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5114].text |
你沒有這個條文 現行做法就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].start |
13094.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].end |
13096.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5115].text |
不要不食人間煙火 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].start |
13096.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].end |
13098.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5116].text |
教育部最大的問題就是不食人間煙火 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].start |
13098.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].end |
13100.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5117].text |
從你的對答就知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].start |
13100.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].end |
13102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5118].text |
跟你講教育現狀就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].start |
13102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].end |
13104.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5119].text |
你就去檢討嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].start |
13104.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].end |
13106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5120].text |
你就改進嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].start |
13106.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].end |
13108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5121].text |
結果你一直跟我講沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].start |
13108.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].end |
13110.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5122].text |
半年來就是不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].start |
13110.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].end |
13112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5123].text |
而且我跟你講有罪推進就是沒有改 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].start |
13112.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].end |
13114.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5124].text |
有罪推進就是沒有改 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].start |
13114.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].end |
13116.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[5125].text |
就是會造成濫述 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].start |
13116.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].end |
13118.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5126].text |
沒有有罪推進這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].start |
13118.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].end |
13120.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5127].text |
如果有怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].start |
13120.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].end |
13122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5128].text |
有的話怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].start |
13122.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].end |
13124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5129].text |
條文沒有 但實際上就是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].start |
13124.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].end |
13126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5130].text |
那你要不要去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].start |
13126.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].end |
13128.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5131].text |
你要不要去了解現實的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].start |
13128.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].end |
13130.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5132].text |
你要不要去了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].start |
13130.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].end |
13132.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5133].text |
不要在那邊耍腿皮子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].start |
13132.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].end |
13134.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5134].text |
教育部就是一副雲淡風輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].start |
13134.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].end |
13136.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5135].text |
所以所有老師面對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].start |
13136.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].end |
13138.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5136].text |
這些困難的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].start |
13138.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].end |
13140.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5137].text |
教育部就是說條文沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].start |
13140.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].end |
13142.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5138].text |
隨便你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].start |
13141.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].end |
13145.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[5139].text |
你跟講鐵拳教育裡面的部長講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].start |
13145.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].end |
13147.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5140].text |
舉功道歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].start |
13147.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].end |
13149.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5141].text |
跟所有老師說對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].start |
13149.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].end |
13151.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5142].text |
讓所有的老師獨自面對教育的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].start |
13151.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].end |
13153.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5143].text |
而我們的教育部次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].start |
13153.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].end |
13155.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5144].text |
在說什麼沒有這一回事啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].start |
13155.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].end |
13157.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5145].text |
沒有這一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].start |
13157.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].end |
13159.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5146].text |
條文沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].start |
13159.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].end |
13161.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5147].text |
條文沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].start |
13161.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].end |
13163.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5148].text |
部長不敢來次長說條文沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].start |
13163.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].end |
13165.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5149].text |
現實狀況教育部就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].start |
13165.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].end |
13167.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5150].text |
假裝沒看到啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].start |
13167.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].end |
13169.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5151].text |
你們這半年有做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].start |
13169.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].end |
13171.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5152].text |
做幾分嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].start |
13171.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].end |
13173.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5153].text |
考試考滿分100分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].start |
13173.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].end |
13175.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5154].text |
你考20分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].start |
13175.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].end |
13177.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5155].text |
你希望你考100分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].start |
13177.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].end |
13181.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5156].text |
你一直以為考個20分在那邊講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].start |
13181.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].end |
13183.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5157].text |
有啦有20分啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].start |
13183.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].end |
13185.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5158].text |
有就好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].start |
13185.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].end |
13187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5159].text |
我希望你考100分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].start |
13187.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].end |
13189.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5160].text |
這半年來我們改革之後的一些成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].start |
13189.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].end |
13191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5161].text |
改革有成果的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].start |
13191.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].end |
13193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5162].text |
現在狀況會越來越糟嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].start |
13193.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].end |
13195.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5163].text |
會越來越糟嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].start |
13195.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].end |
13197.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5164].text |
我再跟你講一個啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].start |
13197.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].end |
13199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5165].text |
除了前一兩個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].start |
13199.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].end |
13201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5166].text |
高雄一個國小的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].start |
13201.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].end |
13203.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5167].text |
老師發生不幸事件之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].start |
13203.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].end |
13205.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[5168].text |
現在也還有另外一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].start |
13208.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].end |
13210.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5169].text |
高雄的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].start |
13209.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].end |
13211.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5170].text |
在網路上也是很紅 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].start |
13211.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].end |
13213.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[5171].text |
也很有名對教育很有貢獻 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].start |
13213.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].end |
13215.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[5172].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].start |
13215.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].end |
13217.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5173].text |
前幾天忽然發文問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].start |
13217.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].end |
13219.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5174].text |
請問學校的最高樓層是幾樓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].start |
13221.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].end |
13223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5175].text |
後來被衛生局勸去送醫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].start |
13223.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].end |
13225.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[5176].text |
這事情你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].start |
13225.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].end |
13227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5177].text |
我有在社群網上看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].start |
13227.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].end |
13229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5178].text |
所以有很多狀況你都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].start |
13229.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].end |
13231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5179].text |
但是你還是覺得你做得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].start |
13231.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].end |
13233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5180].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].start |
13233.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].end |
13235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5181].text |
一年內有三個老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].start |
13235.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].end |
13237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5182].text |
選擇最樓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].start |
13237.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].end |
13239.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[5183].text |
然後還有老師公然在網路發問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].start |
13240.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].end |
13242.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5184].text |
教育部覺得做得很好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].start |
13242.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].end |
13244.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5185].text |
都不知道發生什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].start |
13244.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].end |
13246.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5186].text |
教育部怎麼解決老師的情緒問題呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].start |
13246.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].end |
13248.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5187].text |
很簡單啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].start |
13248.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].end |
13250.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[5188].text |
就去上自殺防治演習啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].start |
13251 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].end |
13253 |
| transcript.whisperx[5189].text |
都上演習嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].start |
13253 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].end |
13255 |
| transcript.whisperx[5190].text |
反而上演習被罵 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].start |
13255 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].end |
13257 |
| transcript.whisperx[5191].text |
老師更覺得莫名其妙 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].start |
13257.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].end |
13259.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[5192].text |
那你可休息啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].start |
13260.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].end |
13262.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5193].text |
然後實際上的狀況我們來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].start |
13263.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].end |
13265.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5194].text |
老師的日常年度演習一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].start |
13266.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].end |
13268.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5195].text |
環境教育四小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].start |
13268.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].end |
13270.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5196].text |
交通安全四小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].start |
13270.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].end |
13272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5197].text |
特殊教育六小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].start |
13272.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].end |
13274.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5198].text |
自殺防治三小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].start |
13274.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].end |
13276.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[5199].text |
情緒教育兩小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].start |
13275.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].end |
13277.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[5200].text |
教育部有點用演習的方式來解決問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].start |
13280.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].end |
13282.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5201].text |
有沒有比較具體的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].start |
13282.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].end |
13284.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5202].text |
次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].start |
13284.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].end |
13286.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5203].text |
跟委員報告演習的目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].start |
13286.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].end |
13288.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5204].text |
不是為了演習而演習 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].start |
13288.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].end |
13290.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5205].text |
所以我也跟幾個師出我們都在講 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].start |
13290.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].end |
13292.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5206].text |
演習之後我們期待目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].start |
13292.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].end |
13294.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5207].text |
是希望老師能夠了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].start |
13294.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].end |
13296.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5208].text |
在校園內能夠有一個種子教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].start |
13296.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].end |
13298.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5209].text |
能夠來協助校園內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].start |
13298.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].end |
13300.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5210].text |
能夠落實我們這些交通安全環境教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].start |
13300.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].end |
13302.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5211].text |
那這部分怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].start |
13302.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].end |
13304.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5212].text |
不要造成現場第一線老師的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].start |
13304.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].end |
13306.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5213].text |
這點我們是可以再來斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].start |
13306.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].end |
13308.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5214].text |
做更好的安排 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].start |
13308.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].end |
13310.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5215].text |
希望委員讓我們把這半年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].start |
13310.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].end |
13312.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5216].text |
我們整理出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].start |
13312.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].end |
13314.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5217].text |
在7月中我們是不是跟委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].start |
13314.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].end |
13316.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5218].text |
在今年1月像社會改革的成果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].start |
13316.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].end |
13318.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5219].text |
我剛才其實要跟委員表達是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].start |
13318.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].end |
13320.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5220].text |
你的表達就是說法條沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].start |
13320.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].end |
13322.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5221].text |
所以現實狀況怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].start |
13322.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].end |
13324.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5222].text |
我哪知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].start |
13324.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].end |
13326.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5223].text |
你態度就這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].start |
13326.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].end |
13328.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5224].text |
沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].start |
13328.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].end |
13330.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5225].text |
大家都有看到我們的對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].start |
13330.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].end |
13332.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5226].text |
可受公評 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].start |
13332.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].end |
13334.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5227].text |
最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].start |
13334.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].end |
13336.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[5228].text |
請教一下國藥署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].start |
13336.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].end |
13338.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[5229].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].start |
13339.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].end |
13341.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[5230].text |
各位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].start |
13340.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].end |
13342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[5231].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].start |
13342.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].end |
13344.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5232].text |
現在因為各縣市都免費營養午餐了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].start |
13344.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].end |
13346.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5233].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].start |
13346.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].end |
13348.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5234].text |
現在有宣布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].start |
13348.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].end |
13350.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5235].text |
115宣言 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].start |
13350.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].end |
13352.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5236].text |
但是這裡面有一些漏網之魚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].start |
13352.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].end |
13354.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5237].text |
跟署長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].start |
13354.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].end |
13356.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5238].text |
因為有一些國中他是國立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].start |
13356.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].end |
13358.39 |
| transcript.whisperx[5239].text |
譬如說我們新北市板橋區 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].start |
13358.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].end |
13360.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[5240].text |
國立華僑高級中學他是國立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].start |
13361.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].end |
13363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5241].text |
那在新北市免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].start |
13363.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].end |
13365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5242].text |
他就沒有被照顧到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].start |
13365.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].end |
13367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5243].text |
就我們會後馬上要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].start |
13367.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].end |
13369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5244].text |
其實全國有十幾間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].start |
13369.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].end |
13371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5245].text |
都是國立的高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].start |
13371.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].end |
13373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5246].text |
對 都沒有調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].start |
13373.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].end |
13375.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5247].text |
好 那我講問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].start |
13375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].end |
13377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5248].text |
華僑國中免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].start |
13377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].end |
13379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5249].text |
怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].start |
13379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].end |
13381.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5250].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].start |
13381.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].end |
13383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5251].text |
那民路裡面有國立國小國立國中部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].start |
13383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].end |
13385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5252].text |
那國立國小沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].start |
13385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].end |
13387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5253].text |
國立國中部的部分目前是嘉義的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].start |
13387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].end |
13389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5254].text |
科研時中的國中部的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].start |
13389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].end |
13391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5255].text |
可能嘉義縣這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].start |
13391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].end |
13393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5256].text |
我們再會做一點了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].start |
13393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].end |
13395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5257].text |
那謝謝委員關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].start |
13395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].end |
13397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5258].text |
不是啦 我現在問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].start |
13397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].end |
13399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5259].text |
怎麼處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].start |
13399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].end |
13401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5260].text |
你是國立的那現在市立的人家要補助免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].start |
13401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].end |
13403.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5261].text |
那國立的你是不是就補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].start |
13403.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].end |
13405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5262].text |
不然的話怎麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].start |
13405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].end |
13407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5263].text |
大家都是在讀國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].start |
13407.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].end |
13409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5264].text |
只是因為學校是市立國立的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].start |
13409.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].end |
13411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5265].text |
有的就免費營養午餐 有的就沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].start |
13411.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].end |
13413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5266].text |
那怎麼叫教育平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].start |
13413.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].end |
13415.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5267].text |
教育平權不是你們一直在講的東西嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].start |
13415.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].end |
13417.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5268].text |
那既然華僑是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].start |
13417.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].end |
13419.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5269].text |
國立的那你就要照顧人家 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].start |
13419.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].end |
13421.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[5270].text |
所以是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].start |
13422.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].end |
13424.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5271].text |
國教署可以補助呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].start |
13424.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].end |
13426.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5272].text |
還是就讓他們成為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].start |
13426.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].end |
13428.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5273].text |
沒有人理的一群 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].start |
13428.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].end |
13430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5274].text |
不是啦 你要講啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].start |
13430.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].end |
13432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5275].text |
現在我們在了解是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].start |
13432.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].end |
13434.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[5276].text |
目前只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].start |
13434.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].end |
13436.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5277].text |
國立的嘉義科學時中的國中部沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].start |
13436.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].end |
13438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5278].text |
所以委員講的這個華僑 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].start |
13438.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].end |
13440.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5279].text |
是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].start |
13440.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].end |
13442.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5280].text |
是有 不過我們會後馬上了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].start |
13442.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].end |
13444.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5281].text |
華僑沒有 我跟政長講沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].start |
13444.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].end |
13446.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5282].text |
我問過了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].start |
13446.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].end |
13448.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5283].text |
為什麼每一個來這裡都喜歡先 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].start |
13448.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].end |
13450.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5284].text |
先否定呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].start |
13450.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].end |
13452.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5285].text |
不是 因為您 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].start |
13452.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].end |
13454.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5286].text |
事前有問我們 我們就先去了解了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].start |
13454.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].end |
13456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5287].text |
不用了解 我現在跟你講沒有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].start |
13456.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].end |
13458.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5288].text |
那你要怎麼處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].start |
13458.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].end |
13460.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5289].text |
如果沒有的話 我們會跟當地的地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].start |
13460.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].end |
13462.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5290].text |
一起來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].start |
13462.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].end |
13464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5291].text |
那一協助什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].start |
13464.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].end |
13466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5292].text |
如果地方政府沒有編譽算 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].start |
13466.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].end |
13468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5293].text |
那是國教署的編譽算是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].start |
13468.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].end |
13470.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5294].text |
跟委員報告 在國教法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].start |
13470.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].end |
13472.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5295].text |
第九條到第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].start |
13472.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].end |
13474.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5296].text |
有提到當地的各種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].start |
13474.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].end |
13476.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5297].text |
國中教育 國小教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].start |
13476.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].end |
13478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5298].text |
怎麼樣做分工 我們會依據那個來執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].start |
13478.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].end |
13480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5299].text |
這到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].start |
13480.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].end |
13482.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5300].text |
你講話我都聽不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].start |
13482.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].end |
13484.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5301].text |
我的問題很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].start |
13484.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].end |
13486.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5302].text |
勢力的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].start |
13486.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].end |
13488.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5303].text |
比如說新北市政府他們有補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].start |
13488.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].end |
13490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5304].text |
勢力的學校免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].start |
13490.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].end |
13492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5305].text |
其實因為新北市裡面也有國力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].start |
13492.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].end |
13494.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5306].text |
他就不是屬於新北市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].start |
13494.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].end |
13496.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5307].text |
國力的就沒有免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].start |
13496.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].end |
13498.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5308].text |
而且全國其實為數也不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].start |
13498.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].end |
13500.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[5309].text |
都國力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].start |
13500.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].end |
13502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5310].text |
那國教署的立場是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].start |
13502.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].end |
13504.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5311].text |
不理他們 還是說會協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].start |
13504.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].end |
13506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5312].text |
地方政府 那如果地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].start |
13506.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].end |
13508.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5313].text |
政府不理 那國教署是不是也就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].start |
13508.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].end |
13510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5314].text |
沒辦法還是怎麼樣 還是國教 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].start |
13510.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].end |
13512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5315].text |
署會願意編譽 就這麼簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].start |
13512.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].end |
13514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5316].text |
問題不要繞來繞去 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].start |
13514.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].end |
13516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5317].text |
就跟剛才 委員直接回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].start |
13516.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].end |
13518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5318].text |
就是我們會直接跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].start |
13518.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].end |
13520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5319].text |
協調 地方政府在我們協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].start |
13520.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].end |
13522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5320].text |
之後 通常在所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].start |
13522.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].end |
13524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5321].text |
政策裡面都會一起來完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].start |
13524.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].end |
13526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5322].text |
他們也會同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].start |
13526.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].end |
13528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5323].text |
你確定 委員時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].start |
13528.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].end |
13530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5324].text |
那也請署長會後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].start |
13530.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].end |
13532.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5325].text |
將相關的資料提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].start |
13532.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].end |
13534.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5326].text |
讓委員關心事項能夠得到回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].start |
13536.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].end |
13538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5327].text |
那也再一次跟委員特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].start |
13538.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].end |
13540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5328].text |
下禮拜一 有關相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].start |
13540.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].end |
13542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5329].text |
校園問題 我們會有公聽會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].start |
13542.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].end |
13544.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5330].text |
也邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].start |
13543.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].end |
13545.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5331].text |
委員可以出席 拜託委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].start |
13545.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].end |
13547.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[5332].text |
一起來發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].start |
13547.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].end |
13549.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[5333].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].start |
13549.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].end |
13551.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5334].text |
請回座 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].start |
13555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].end |
13557.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[5335].text |
接下來 徐欣瑩委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].start |
13567.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].end |
13569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5336].text |
好 謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].start |
13569.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].end |
13571.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[5337].text |
本席邀請教育部 朱長次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].start |
13571.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].end |
13573.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[5338].text |
有請 市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].start |
13575.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].end |
13577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5339].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].start |
13577.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].end |
13579.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5340].text |
市長 今天有蠻多的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].start |
13579.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].end |
13581.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5341].text |
首先 第一個就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].start |
13581.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].end |
13583.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5342].text |
有關就學貸款的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].start |
13583.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].end |
13585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5343].text |
因為本席時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].start |
13585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].end |
13587.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5344].text |
首先 我想先表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].start |
13587.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].end |
13589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5345].text |
我的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].start |
13589.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].end |
13591.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5346].text |
就是就學貸款的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].start |
13591.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].end |
13593.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5347].text |
我們希望是成為青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].start |
13593.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].end |
13595.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5348].text |
向上的階梯 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].start |
13595.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].end |
13597.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5349].text |
而不是人生起步的重擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].start |
13598.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].end |
13600.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[5350].text |
那我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].start |
13602.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].end |
13604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5351].text |
學生和家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].start |
13604.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].end |
13606.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5352].text |
需要的不是每年拆政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[5353].start |
13606.23 |
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13608.23 |
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他們需要的是穩定 |
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13608.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].end |
13610.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5354].text |
而且可預期的保障 |
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13610.23 |
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13612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5355].text |
所以本席 |
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13612.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].end |
13614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5356].text |
直接了當的來請教 |
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13614.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].end |
13616.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5357].text |
市長 那有關 |
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13616.23 |
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13618.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[5358].text |
這個高級中等教育法第58條 |
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13620.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].end |
13622.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5359].text |
教育部是否同意 |
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13622.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].end |
13624.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5360].text |
應該要明定貸款利息 |
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13624.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].end |
13626.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5361].text |
由中央主管機關 |
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13626.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].end |
13628.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5362].text |
來編列預算負擔 |
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13628.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].end |
13630.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5363].text |
以及身貸的資格 |
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13630.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].end |
13632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5364].text |
應該加入撫養負擔 |
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13632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].end |
13634.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5365].text |
教育部的立場 |
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13634.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].end |
13636.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5366].text |
是 謝謝委員的關心 |
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13636.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].end |
13638.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5367].text |
我們跟委員一樣 |
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13638.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].end |
13640.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5368].text |
都希望學貸不要成為 |
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13640.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].end |
13642.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5369].text |
學生畢業之後向上 |
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13642.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].end |
13644.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5370].text |
流動的一個重擔 |
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13644.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].end |
13646.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5371].text |
所以 我們期待的是說 |
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13646.1 |
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13648.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5372].text |
是不是可以在 |
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13648.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].end |
13650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5373].text |
目前在大學法 中央學校法 |
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13650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].end |
13652.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5374].text |
跟高級中學法 他正在學貸 |
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13652.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].end |
13654.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5375].text |
這個部分本來就有個授權的辦法了 |
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13654.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].end |
13656.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5376].text |
就有個授權的依據 |
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13656.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].end |
13658.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5377].text |
讓教育部去定辦法 |
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13658.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].end |
13660.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5378].text |
我們過去針對學貸的利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].start |
13660.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].end |
13662.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5379].text |
針對貸款的資格 |
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13662.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].end |
13664.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5380].text |
所以你們認同中央主管機關來 |
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13664.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].end |
13666.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5381].text |
編列整個貸款利息 |
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13666.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].end |
13668.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5382].text |
來負擔 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].start |
13668.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].end |
13670.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5383].text |
我們目前已經有宣布 |
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13670.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].end |
13672.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5384].text |
總統在27號已經有宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].start |
13672.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].end |
13674.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5385].text |
我們會調降還款利息1% |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].start |
13674.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].end |
13676.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5386].text |
所以沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].start |
13676.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].end |
13678.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5387].text |
沒有 不願意免利息就對了 |
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13678.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].end |
13680.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5388].text |
免息這一塊 |
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13680.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].end |
13682.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5389].text |
我們還是期待是說 |
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13682.1 |
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13684.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5390].text |
讓在 |
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13684.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].end |
13686.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5391].text |
我們是希望 |
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13686.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].end |
13688.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5392].text |
很多委員我相信都很希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].start |
13688.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].end |
13690.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5393].text |
等於是就是免利息的部分 |
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13690.1 |
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13692.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5394].text |
朝這個方向 |
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13692.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].end |
13694.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5395].text |
我們現在會 |
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13694.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].end |
13696.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5396].text |
比較希望說 |
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13696.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].end |
13698.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5397].text |
因為已經降1% |
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13698.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].end |
13700.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5398].text |
未來會再看整個財政 |
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13700.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].end |
13702.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5399].text |
跟學生需求 |
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13702.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].end |
13704.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5400].text |
來做處理 讓政府的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].start |
13704.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].end |
13706.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5401].text |
做更精準的通販 |
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13706.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].end |
13708.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5402].text |
其實我跟委員報告 |
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13708.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].end |
13710.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5403].text |
以目前學生畢業後的還款 |
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13710.1 |
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13712.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5404].text |
的一個人來講 |
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13712.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].end |
13714.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5405].text |
他其實有將近8成8 |
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13714.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].end |
13716.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5406].text |
的費用是在還本金 |
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13716.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].end |
13718.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5407].text |
利息大概只剩1成2 |
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13718.1 |
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13720.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5408].text |
那又降了之後 |
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13720.1 |
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13722.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5409].text |
有關就學貸款的部分 |
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13722.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].end |
13724.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5410].text |
本席這個聽了很多 |
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13724.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].end |
13726.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5411].text |
年輕人的意見 |
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13726.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].end |
13728.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5412].text |
所以我們是希望朝向 |
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13728.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].end |
13730.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5413].text |
第一個利息全免 |
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13730.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].end |
13732.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5414].text |
第二個就是他身貸的 |
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13732.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].end |
13734.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5415].text |
資格呢 家務所得可以 |
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13734.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].end |
13736.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5416].text |
從120萬提升到 |
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13736.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].end |
13738.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5417].text |
150萬 |
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13738.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].end |
13740.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5418].text |
那再來就是本席今天也有提 |
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13740.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].end |
13742.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5419].text |
一個修正動議就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].start |
13742.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].end |
13744.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5420].text |
本金的還款是不是可以 |
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13744.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].end |
13746.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5421].text |
從工作一年後延長到 |
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13746.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].end |
13748.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5422].text |
兩年後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].start |
13748.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].end |
13750.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5423].text |
等於給我們最重要就是給我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].start |
13750.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].end |
13752.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5424].text |
年輕人他在起步的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].start |
13752.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].end |
13754.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5425].text |
他其實也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].start |
13754.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].end |
13756.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5426].text |
他的經濟能力是最弱的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].start |
13756.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].end |
13758.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5427].text |
所以我們應該給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].start |
13758.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].end |
13760.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5428].text |
更寬限的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].start |
13760.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].end |
13762.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5429].text |
這個一個狀態 |
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13762.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].end |
13764.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5430].text |
然後再來就是就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].start |
13764.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].end |
13766.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5431].text |
我們還是希望朝向能夠免利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].start |
13766.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].end |
13768.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5432].text |
這個教育部 |
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13768.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].end |
13770.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5433].text |
是不是可以承諾就是說 |
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13770.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].end |
13772.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5434].text |
一個月內 |
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13772.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].end |
13774.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5435].text |
來向教育委員會提出 |
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13774.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].end |
13776.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5436].text |
我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].start |
13776.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].end |
13778.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5437].text |
高級中等教育法的 |
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13778.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].end |
13780.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5438].text |
第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].start |
13780.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].end |
13782.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5439].text |
他可以入法的項目清單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].start |
13782.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].end |
13784.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5440].text |
那再來就是區分哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].start |
13784.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].end |
13786.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5441].text |
應該入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].start |
13786.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].end |
13788.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5442].text |
哪些可以由執法處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].start |
13788.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].end |
13790.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5443].text |
哪些教育部人有疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].start |
13790.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].end |
13792.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5444].text |
是不是可以逐項的說明 |
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13792.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].end |
13794.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5445].text |
在一個月內提供給教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].start |
13794.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].end |
13796.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5446].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].start |
13796.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].end |
13798.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5447].text |
跟委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].start |
13798.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].end |
13800.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5448].text |
高級中等教育法58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].start |
13800.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].end |
13802.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5449].text |
因為高中已經全面免學費了 |
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13802.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].end |
13804.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5450].text |
但委員關係的可能是在大學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].start |
13804.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].end |
13806.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5451].text |
跟專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].start |
13806.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].end |
13808.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5452].text |
那沒關係這塊由我們來整理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].start |
13808.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].end |
13810.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5453].text |
哪一些是在我們目前授權辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].start |
13810.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].end |
13812.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5454].text |
或是我們的一些 |
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13812.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].end |
13814.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5455].text |
方案就可以處理的 |
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13814.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].end |
13816.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5456].text |
我們列個表提供給委員沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].start |
13816.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].end |
13818.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5457].text |
那接著今天因為也有談到 |
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13818.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].end |
13820.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5458].text |
營養午餐的 |
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13820.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].end |
13822.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5459].text |
本席也想很快的就是 |
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13822.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].end |
13824.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5460].text |
想了解我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].start |
13824.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].end |
13826.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5461].text |
教育部的立場就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].start |
13826.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].end |
13828.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5462].text |
對於營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].start |
13828.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].end |
13830.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5463].text |
我們相信教育部也認同 |
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13830.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5464].end |
13832.1 |
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學校的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].start |
13832.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].end |
13834.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5465].text |
它不只是一份便當 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].start |
13834.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].end |
13836.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5466].text |
它是一整套的校園治理制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].start |
13836.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].end |
13838.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5467].text |
所以我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].start |
13838.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].end |
13840.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5468].text |
看到教育部今天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].start |
13840.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].end |
13842.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5469].text |
報告裡面有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].start |
13842.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].end |
13844.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5470].text |
原本教育部每年有補助弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].start |
13844.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].end |
13846.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5471].text |
午餐21億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].start |
13846.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].end |
13848.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5472].text |
國產可溯源食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].start |
13848.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].end |
13850.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5473].text |
有38億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].start |
13850.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].end |
13852.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5474].text |
偏鄉中央廚房15億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].start |
13852.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].end |
13854.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5475].text |
那再加上新增的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].start |
13854.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].end |
13856.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5476].text |
營養師午餐執行秘書等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].start |
13856.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].end |
13858.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5477].text |
26億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].start |
13858.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].end |
13860.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5478].text |
總計超過100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].start |
13860.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].end |
13862.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[5479].text |
這個未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].start |
13861.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].end |
13865.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5480].text |
是要可能回歸地方負擔嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].start |
13865.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].end |
13867.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5481].text |
是因為在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].start |
13867.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].end |
13869.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5482].text |
裁放之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].start |
13869.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].end |
13871.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5483].text |
那個是財政收支劃分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].start |
13871.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].end |
13873.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5484].text |
那你中央定標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].start |
13873.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].end |
13875.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5485].text |
結果你把100億 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].start |
13875.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].end |
13877.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5486].text |
整個丟給地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].start |
13877.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].end |
13879.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5487].text |
那地方的財政又吃緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].start |
13879.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].end |
13881.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5488].text |
你又把壓力丟給學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].start |
13881.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].end |
13883.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5489].text |
會讓我們覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].start |
13883.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].end |
13885.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5490].text |
這個是中央出一張嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].start |
13885.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].end |
13887.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5491].text |
中央有理想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].start |
13887.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].end |
13889.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5492].text |
結果你地方來負帳單 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].start |
13889.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].end |
13891.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5493].text |
學校扛責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].start |
13891.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].end |
13893.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5494].text |
出了事情你就怪學校跟老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].start |
13893.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].end |
13895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5495].text |
這個不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].start |
13895.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].end |
13897.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5496].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].start |
13897.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].end |
13899.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5497].text |
因為目前據了解22縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].start |
13899.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].end |
13901.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5498].text |
已經都是全面營養午餐免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].start |
13901.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].end |
13903.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5499].text |
代表說在裁放法之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].start |
13903.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].end |
13905.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5500].text |
他們地方的支支 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].start |
13905.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].end |
13907.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5501].text |
財力是夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].start |
13907.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].end |
13909.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5502].text |
已經可以來支支在快 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].start |
13909.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].end |
13911.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5503].text |
那當然教育部我們會持續就 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].start |
13911.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].end |
13913.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5504].text |
整個營養午餐的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].start |
13913.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].end |
13915.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5505].text |
一些管控食安管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].start |
13915.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].end |
13917.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5506].text |
資訊的揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].start |
13917.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].end |
13919.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5507].text |
更緊密的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].start |
13919.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].end |
13921.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5508].text |
不會因為說有地方來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].start |
13921.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].end |
13923.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5509].text |
我們就不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].start |
13923.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].end |
13925.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5510].text |
但是確實在經費的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].start |
13925.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].end |
13927.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5511].text |
現在地方財力應該是可以支支 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].start |
13927.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].end |
13929.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5512].text |
那我們今天因為有要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].start |
13929.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].end |
13931.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5513].text |
整個營養午餐的專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].start |
13931.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].end |
13933.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5514].text |
是不是可以請教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].start |
13933.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].end |
13935.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5515].text |
也可以提出來這個會後提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].start |
13935.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].end |
13937.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5516].text |
四件事第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].start |
13937.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].end |
13939.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5517].text |
專法會送行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].start |
13939.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].end |
13941.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5518].text |
行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].start |
13941.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].end |
13943.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5519].text |
送立法院的具體時程嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].start |
13943.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].end |
13945.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5520].text |
好這第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].start |
13945.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].end |
13947.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[5521].text |
中央與地方裁員的分單表 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].start |
13949.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].end |
13951.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[5522].text |
一二三 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].start |
13949.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].end |
13951.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5523].text |
我們未來主員工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].start |
13951.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].end |
13953.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5524].text |
這個營養午餐我們還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].start |
13953.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].end |
13955.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5525].text |
我們中央可以來承擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].start |
13955.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].end |
13957.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5526].text |
那第三個午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].start |
13957.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].end |
13959.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5527].text |
執行秘書專職化或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].start |
13959.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].end |
13961.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5528].text |
教師兼任 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].start |
13961.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].end |
13963.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5529].text |
減售課的全國標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].start |
13963.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].end |
13965.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5530].text |
第四個營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].start |
13965.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].end |
13967.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5531].text |
廚工廚房設備和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].start |
13967.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].end |
13969.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5532].text |
偏鄉共餐的分年補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].start |
13969.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].end |
13971.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5533].text |
計畫這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].start |
13971.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].end |
13973.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5534].text |
是不是可以在一個月內向委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].start |
13973.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].end |
13975.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5535].text |
會提出可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].start |
13975.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].end |
13977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5536].text |
我請署長這邊跟委員說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].start |
13977.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].end |
13979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5537].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].start |
13979.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].end |
13981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5538].text |
提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].start |
13981.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].end |
13983.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5539].text |
最後可不可以請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].start |
13983.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].end |
13985.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5540].text |
在場的教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].start |
13985.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].end |
13987.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5541].text |
教育部是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].start |
13987.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].end |
13989.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5542].text |
提出全國營養師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].start |
13989.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].end |
13991.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5543].text |
午餐秘書廚工跟廚房的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].start |
13991.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].end |
13993.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5544].text |
設備盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].start |
13993.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].end |
13995.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5545].text |
提給教育委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].start |
13995.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].end |
13997.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5546].text |
那財政部今天也有來是不是提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].start |
13997.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].end |
13999.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5547].text |
中央地方的分單模式 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].start |
13999.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].end |
14001.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5548].text |
可不可以請主席才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].start |
14001.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].end |
14003.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5549].text |
再來就是衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].start |
14003.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].end |
14005.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5550].text |
能否提出這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].start |
14005.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].end |
14007.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5551].text |
請衛福部提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].start |
14007.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].end |
14009.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5552].text |
食安風險的稽查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].start |
14009.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].end |
14011.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5553].text |
以及異常通報制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].start |
14011.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].end |
14013.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5554].text |
那請農業部提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].start |
14013.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].end |
14015.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5555].text |
在地食材的穩定供應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].start |
14015.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].end |
14017.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5556].text |
與價格調節機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].start |
14017.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].end |
14019.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5557].text |
可不可以請主席才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].start |
14019.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].end |
14021.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5558].text |
這個是不是可以請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].start |
14021.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].end |
14023.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5559].text |
今天有來的四個部會送 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].start |
14023.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].end |
14025.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5560].text |
教育委員會可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].start |
14026.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].end |
14028.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5561].text |
主席可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].start |
14028.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].end |
14030.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5562].text |
委員應該時間到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].start |
14030.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].end |
14032.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5563].text |
但是委員所提的相關需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].start |
14032.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].end |
14034.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5564].text |
也希望我們相關部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].start |
14034.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].end |
14036.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5565].text |
應該給予正面的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].start |
14036.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].end |
14038.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5566].text |
是不是會後能夠提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].start |
14038.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].end |
14040.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[5567].text |
這些相關的籌備計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].start |
14040.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].end |
14042.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5568].text |
那請主席才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].start |
14042.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].end |
14044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5569].text |
另外有三個部會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].start |
14044.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].end |
14046.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5570].text |
因為時間在地方政府的設備盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].start |
14046.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].end |
14048.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5571].text |
是不是可以給我們比較長的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].start |
14048.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].end |
14050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5572].text |
兩個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].start |
14050.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].end |
14052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5573].text |
那就兩個月好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].start |
14052.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].end |
14054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5574].text |
盤點的話兩個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].start |
14054.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].end |
14056.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5575].text |
三個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].start |
14056.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].end |
14058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5576].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].start |
14058.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].end |
14060.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5577].text |
那請議委員的辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].start |
14066.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].end |
14068.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5578].text |
下一位張亞林委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].start |
14074.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].end |
14076.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5579].text |
我們有請朱次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].start |
14076.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].end |
14078.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[5580].text |
有請次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].start |
14080.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].end |
14082.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5581].text |
這一集抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].start |
14082.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].end |
14084.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[5582].text |
我可能要請國教署署長一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].start |
14089.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].end |
14091.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[5583].text |
有請署長謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].start |
14092.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].end |
14094.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5584].text |
好我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].start |
14094.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].end |
14096.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[5585].text |
昨天這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].start |
14095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].end |
14097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5586].text |
中小學校長協會有發布新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].start |
14097.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].end |
14099.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5587].text |
提到說教育現場有老師在教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].start |
14099.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].end |
14101.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5588].text |
或輔導的過程之中呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].start |
14101.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].end |
14103.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5589].text |
被學生咬傷抓傷撞傷甚至是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].start |
14103.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].end |
14105.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5590].text |
有牙齒斷裂了那我自己也有遇過 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].start |
14105.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].end |
14107.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5591].text |
處理過的相關的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].start |
14107.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].end |
14109.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5592].text |
是老師可能甚至有被打 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].start |
14109.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].end |
14111.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5593].text |
這樣子的一個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].start |
14111.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].end |
14113.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5594].text |
然後嘔吒等等的那最後老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].start |
14113.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].end |
14115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5595].text |
通常就是礙於教育人員的身份跟職責 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].start |
14115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].end |
14117.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5596].text |
他最後就不選擇不提 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].start |
14117.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].end |
14119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5597].text |
不會不報然後也不提告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].start |
14119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].end |
14121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5598].text |
然後就息事寧人 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].start |
14121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].end |
14123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5599].text |
那所以呢這個協會他們也做了一些調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].start |
14123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].end |
14125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5600].text |
就發現呢這兩年來教育人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].start |
14125.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].end |
14127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5601].text |
因為在教學或輔導期間受到攻擊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].start |
14127.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].end |
14129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5602].text |
事件呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].start |
14129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].end |
14131.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5603].text |
其實是不少十次以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].start |
14131.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].end |
14133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5604].text |
就有十七筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].start |
14133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].end |
14135.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5605].text |
這是九十個學校的回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].start |
14135.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].end |
14137.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5606].text |
其中十次以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].start |
14137.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].end |
14139.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5607].text |
有十七筆普通班的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].start |
14139.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].end |
14141.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5608].text |
有五十所 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].start |
14141.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].end |
14143.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5609].text |
那從這張表我想你就可以非常清楚的看見到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].start |
14143.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].end |
14145.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[5610].text |
我們教學現場老師們承受的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].start |
14146.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].end |
14148.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5611].text |
什麼樣子的一個狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].start |
14148.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].end |
14150.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5612].text |
什麼樣子的一個壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].start |
14150.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].end |
14152.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5613].text |
所以我想要了解就是說教育部現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].start |
14152.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].end |
14154.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5614].text |
有沒有去掌握我們全國教育人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].start |
14154.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].end |
14156.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5615].text |
因學生攻擊而受傷的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].start |
14156.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].end |
14158.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5616].text |
有沒有分職務分事件分受傷的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].start |
14158.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].end |
14160.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5617].text |
來做一個盤點呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].start |
14160.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].end |
14162.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5618].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].start |
14162.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].end |
14164.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5619].text |
好謝謝委員指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].start |
14164.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].end |
14166.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5620].text |
確實在目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].start |
14166.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].end |
14168.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5621].text |
我們學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].start |
14168.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].end |
14170.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5622].text |
大家都有校安通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].start |
14170.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].end |
14172.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5623].text |
不管是師對生或生對師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].start |
14172.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].end |
14174.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5624].text |
都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].start |
14174.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].end |
14176.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5625].text |
那這部分我們可以來做一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].start |
14176.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].end |
14178.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5626].text |
更細緻的分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].start |
14178.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].end |
14180.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5627].text |
來跟委員報告調查情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].start |
14180.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].end |
14182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5628].text |
那其次針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].start |
14182.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].end |
14184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5629].text |
老師在職場受到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].start |
14184.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].end |
14186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5630].text |
一些不法侵害 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].start |
14186.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].end |
14188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5631].text |
早上其實媒體朋友在問我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].start |
14188.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].end |
14190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5632].text |
在職安法雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].start |
14190.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].end |
14192.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5633].text |
已經有一些規範可是我們會跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].start |
14192.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].end |
14194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5634].text |
書團討論可能我們需要針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].start |
14194.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].end |
14196.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5635].text |
學校這個場域針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].start |
14196.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].end |
14198.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5636].text |
老師的這種安全指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].start |
14198.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].end |
14200.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5637].text |
應該要有積極的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].start |
14200.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].end |
14202.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5638].text |
是是是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].start |
14202.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].end |
14204.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5639].text |
我們會來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].start |
14204.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].end |
14206.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5640].text |
剛剛你提到的校安通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].start |
14206.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].end |
14208.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5641].text |
那最近也是台北市有個小學 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].start |
14208.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].end |
14210.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5642].text |
仍然國小的事件也是沸沸揚揚 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].start |
14210.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].end |
14212.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5643].text |
那據我所知家長會是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].start |
14212.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].end |
14214.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5644].text |
告訴我說他們去跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].start |
14214.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].end |
14216.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5645].text |
台北市教育局要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].start |
14216.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].end |
14218.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5646].text |
詢問的時候教育局是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].start |
14218.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].end |
14220.85 |
| transcript.whisperx[5647].text |
校安通報的統計會先到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].start |
14221.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].end |
14223.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[5648].text |
才會再轉告給他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].start |
14223.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].end |
14225.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5649].text |
那這是事實嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].start |
14225.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].end |
14227.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5650].text |
因為據我所知應該是同步進行吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].start |
14227.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].end |
14229.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5651].text |
這個是不是可以請次長再釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].start |
14229.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].end |
14231.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5652].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].start |
14231.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].end |
14233.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5653].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].start |
14233.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].end |
14235.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5654].text |
這個案子我們部裡面包含書裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].start |
14235.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].end |
14237.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5655].text |
也非常的關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].start |
14237.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].end |
14239.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5656].text |
那他其實已經有涉及到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].start |
14239.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].end |
14241.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5657].text |
一些危險的動作 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].start |
14241.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].end |
14243.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5658].text |
那我們會要求台北市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].start |
14243.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].end |
14245.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5659].text |
在七天內把 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].start |
14245.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].end |
14247.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5660].text |
過往他有通報過十次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].start |
14247.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].end |
14249.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5661].text |
那是不是同一個個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].start |
14249.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].end |
14251.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5662].text |
同一個行為等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].start |
14251.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].end |
14253.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5663].text |
那現在是有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].start |
14253.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].end |
14255.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5664].text |
處理情形調查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].start |
14255.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].end |
14257.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5665].text |
以及未來如何預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].start |
14257.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].end |
14259.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5666].text |
甚至我們部內如何用 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].start |
14259.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].end |
14261.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5667].text |
校安通報上類似情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].start |
14261.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].end |
14263.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5668].text |
也有所檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].start |
14263.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].end |
14265.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5669].text |
大概這兩層次都會做檢視 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].start |
14265.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].end |
14267.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5670].text |
好我想這個部分其實我是想要強調一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].start |
14267.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].end |
14269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5671].text |
就是說當學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].start |
14269.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].end |
14271.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5672].text |
我們這個校安通報的流程應該行之有年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].start |
14271.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].end |
14273.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5673].text |
對不對學校該怎麼進行通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].start |
14273.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].end |
14275.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5674].text |
教育局各立的縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].start |
14275.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].end |
14277.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5675].text |
應該如何協助學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].start |
14277.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].end |
14279.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5676].text |
啟動應變小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].start |
14279.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].end |
14281.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5677].text |
以及後續的三級處遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].start |
14281.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].end |
14283.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5678].text |
這應該都是地方縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].start |
14283.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].end |
14285.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5679].text |
應該要來協助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].start |
14285.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].end |
14287.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5680].text |
可是學校告訴我的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].start |
14287.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].end |
14289.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[5681].text |
會長告訴我的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].start |
14289.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].end |
14293.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5682].text |
台北市必須要等到教育部轉資這個校安通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].start |
14293.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].end |
14295.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5683].text |
我想這個可能就不是符合 |
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過去行之有年 |
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所以這部分要再麻煩國教署 |
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積極的來督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5687].start |
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因為這的確現場來說 |
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我要先講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5689].start |
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我們要照顧現場的學生 |
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也要保護老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5691].start |
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那這個孩子也要立刻的進行三級處遇 |
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好不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[5693].end |
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我要補充一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5694].start |
14315.83 |
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我們可能要釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5695].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5695].end |
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那教育部的同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[5696].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5696].text |
家長等等會有這樣的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5697].start |
14321.83 |
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| transcript.whisperx[5697].text |
其實不是這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5698].end |
14325.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5698].text |
地方政府在做為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].start |
14325.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].end |
14327.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5699].text |
他早就已經在處理了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5700].start |
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所以不帶通報後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5701].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5701].end |
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就還不要有所何定或是轉資 |
| transcript.whisperx[5702].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5702].text |
這個是歷來本來就依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].start |
14333.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].end |
14335.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5703].text |
在處置的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].start |
14335.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].end |
14337.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5704].text |
這個是教育局給他的回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].start |
14337.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].end |
14339.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5705].text |
說他來告訴我這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].start |
14339.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].end |
14341.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5706].text |
所以我希望你們來了解一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].start |
14341.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].end |
14343.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5707].text |
那再來一個部分就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5708].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5708].end |
14345.83 |
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因為其實協會也有講到就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5709].start |
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是不是可以針對學校的部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[5710].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[5710].text |
因為我們現在這個補償金 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].start |
14349.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].end |
14351.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5711].text |
慰問金基本上是公教一體 |
| transcript.whisperx[5712].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5712].end |
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可是對他們來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].start |
14353.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].end |
14355.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5713].text |
其實是非常困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].start |
14355.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5714].end |
14357.83 |
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因為其實公務人員不會面對到這麼多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].start |
14357.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].end |
14359.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5715].text |
可能現場的攻擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].start |
14359.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].end |
14361.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5716].text |
或傷害等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].start |
14361.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].end |
14363.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5717].text |
所以是不是可以針對這個慰問金辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].start |
14363.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].end |
14365.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5718].text |
把公務人員跟教育人員來脫鉤 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].start |
14365.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].end |
14367.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5719].text |
建立這個教育人員專屬的慰問補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].start |
14367.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].end |
14369.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5720].text |
跟支持制度呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].start |
14369.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].end |
14371.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5721].text |
市長您的看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].start |
14371.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].end |
14373.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5722].text |
這個部分還會涉及到跟學部的選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].start |
14373.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].end |
14375.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5723].text |
我們會很重視這樣的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].start |
14375.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].end |
14377.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5724].text |
我們跟學區不討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].start |
14377.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].end |
14379.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5725].text |
這是完全不一樣的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].start |
14379.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].end |
14381.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5726].text |
再來一個問題就是說疑似生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].start |
14381.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].end |
14383.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5727].text |
這個其實我一直在追啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].start |
14383.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].end |
14385.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5728].text |
就是說台北市的疑似生的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].start |
14385.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].end |
14387.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5729].text |
比其他的縣市人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].start |
14387.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].end |
14389.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5730].text |
比例都來的高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].start |
14389.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].end |
14391.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5731].text |
那台北市政府的回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].start |
14391.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].end |
14393.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5732].text |
給我們的回覆是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].start |
14393.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].end |
14395.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5733].text |
因為台北市的疑似生人數比較高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].start |
14395.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].end |
14397.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5734].text |
主要是因為孩子卡在幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].start |
14397.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].end |
14399.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5735].text |
大班生國小一年級這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].start |
14399.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].end |
14401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5736].text |
有些孩子在幼兒園時被鑑定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].start |
14401.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].end |
14403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5737].text |
到了要升小學重新鑑定的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].start |
14403.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].end |
14405.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5738].text |
還看不出到底屬於哪一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].start |
14405.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].end |
14407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5739].text |
帳別 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].start |
14407.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].end |
14409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5740].text |
所以呢他為了不要讓孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].start |
14409.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].end |
14411.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5741].text |
因為還沒有確定類別就失去特教資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].start |
14411.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].end |
14413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5742].text |
所以會讓他們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].start |
14413.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].end |
14415.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5743].text |
先接受特教之詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].start |
14415.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].end |
14417.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5744].text |
一年之後再重新鑑定 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].start |
14417.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].end |
14419.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5745].text |
那後來呢我們再發現這些資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].start |
14419.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].end |
14421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5746].text |
大概有六成都會被鑑定為特殊教育學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].start |
14421.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].end |
14423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5747].text |
那我想要釐清一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].start |
14423.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].end |
14425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5748].text |
就是說這個邏輯上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].start |
14425.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].end |
14427.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[5749].text |
我覺得有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].start |
14427.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].end |
14429.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5750].text |
荒謬的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].start |
14429.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].end |
14431.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5751].text |
就是說他會給他特教生的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].start |
14431.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].end |
14433.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5752].text |
那我想問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].start |
14433.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].end |
14435.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5753].text |
特教生的支持是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].start |
14435.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].end |
14437.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5754].text |
等於是說我們有給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].start |
14437.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].end |
14439.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5755].text |
IEP嗎我們有因為這樣子的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].start |
14439.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].end |
14441.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5756].text |
去縮減 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].start |
14441.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].end |
14443.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5757].text |
班級的人數嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].start |
14443.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].end |
14445.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5758].text |
我們有提供我們有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].start |
14445.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].end |
14447.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5759].text |
特教老師嗎如果都沒有的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].start |
14447.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].end |
14449.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5760].text |
那個支持到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].start |
14449.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].end |
14451.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[5761].text |
只是讓現場更混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].start |
14450.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].end |
14452.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5762].text |
剛剛委員所問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].start |
14452.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].end |
14454.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5763].text |
他是一次生跟非一次生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].start |
14454.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].end |
14456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5764].text |
大概有三個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].start |
14456.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].end |
14458.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5765].text |
剛才的捶詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].start |
14458.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].end |
14460.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5766].text |
我們會問這個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].start |
14460.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].end |
14462.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5767].text |
因為每個縣市在特定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].start |
14462.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].end |
14464.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5768].text |
他們的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].start |
14464.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].end |
14466.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5769].text |
或相關的認定上 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].start |
14466.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].end |
14468.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5770].text |
以及剛剛委員講在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].start |
14468.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].end |
14470.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5771].text |
跨級的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[5772].end |
14472.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5772].text |
有這樣的一個顧慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].start |
14472.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].end |
14474.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5773].text |
也有他們的考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].start |
14474.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].end |
14476.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5774].text |
但是剛剛委員的三問 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].start |
14476.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].end |
14478.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5775].text |
我們會來就教相關的縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].start |
14478.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].end |
14480.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5776].text |
7天內會跟委員回報 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].start |
14480.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].end |
14482.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5777].text |
好因為我想這個我自己看 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].start |
14482.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].end |
14484.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5778].text |
我覺得可能存在三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].start |
14484.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].end |
14486.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5779].text |
鑑定的速度不夠快跨階段的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].start |
14486.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].end |
14488.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5780].text |
也不夠細緻特教人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].start |
14488.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].end |
14490.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5781].text |
也沒有跟著學生的實際需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].start |
14490.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].end |
14492.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5782].text |
來去做增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].start |
14492.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].end |
14494.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5783].text |
所以這個部分的話請你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].start |
14494.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].end |
14496.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5784].text |
來了解一下這到底是做得好還是做得不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].start |
14496.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].end |
14498.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5785].text |
因為我想不管是普特龍和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].start |
14498.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].end |
14500.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5786].text |
一般生的孩子要好好被照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].start |
14500.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].end |
14502.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5787].text |
特教生的孩子的需求也要被好好照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].start |
14502.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].end |
14504.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5788].text |
沒有一個孩子應該要被 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].start |
14504.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].end |
14506.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5789].text |
這樣子失去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].start |
14506.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].end |
14508.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5790].text |
那最後一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].start |
14508.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5791].end |
14510.6 |
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再講普特龍和的現場 |
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14510.6 |
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我們在普特龍和的現場 |
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14512.6 |
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14514.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5793].text |
其實我們都非常清楚的知道我們少子化 |
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14514.6 |
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14516.6 |
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但是我們的特教生的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[5795].start |
14516.6 |
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14518.6 |
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其實是越來越高 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].start |
14518.6 |
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14520.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5796].text |
我們安置率高不代表龍和教育是成功的 |
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14520.6 |
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14522.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5797].text |
所以呢我希望就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].start |
14522.6 |
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14524.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5798].text |
我們現在的確是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].start |
14524.6 |
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14526.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5799].text |
給特教生有一些些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].start |
14526.6 |
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14528.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[5800].text |
特殊的IEP |
| transcript.whisperx[5801].start |
14528.6 |
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14530.6 |
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什麼的但是我希望我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5802].start |
14530.6 |
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14532.6 |
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計算特教老師的人力 |
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14532.6 |
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14534.6 |
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需求的時候 |
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14534.48 |
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14536.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5804].text |
不能夠只有 |
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14536.48 |
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14538.48 |
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就是說不能夠只有看這個學生數的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5806].start |
14538.48 |
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14540.48 |
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師生比等等的我們還要去 |
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14540.48 |
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14542.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5807].text |
來掌握到底他們平均 |
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14542.48 |
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14544.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5808].text |
負責多少學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].start |
14544.48 |
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14546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5809].text |
有多少IEP要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].start |
14546.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].end |
14548.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5810].text |
有多少鑑定評估 |
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14548.48 |
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14550.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5811].text |
多少情緒行為個案我覺得這些都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].start |
14550.48 |
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14552.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5812].text |
非常仔細的來講因為他們有時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[5813].start |
14552.48 |
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14554.48 |
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還要協助普通班 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].start |
14554.48 |
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14556.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5814].text |
所以這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].start |
14556.48 |
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14558.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5815].text |
我認為我們應該要來積極的掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].start |
14558.48 |
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14560.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5816].text |
我們才能夠去確保說我們的普特龍 |
| transcript.whisperx[5817].start |
14560.48 |
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14562.48 |
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和怎麼樣可以真正的做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].start |
14562.48 |
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14564.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5818].text |
普特龍和 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].start |
14564.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].end |
14566.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5819].text |
而不是彼此忍耐 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].start |
14566.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].end |
14568.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5820].text |
好嗎可以嗎這些資料是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].start |
14568.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].end |
14570.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[5821].text |
什麼時候也可以提供給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].start |
14570.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].end |
14572.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5822].text |
我們是不是一個月後提供給委員參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].start |
14572.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].end |
14574.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[5823].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].start |
14575.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].end |
14577.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[5824].text |
好下一位林謙奇委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].start |
14586.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].end |
14588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5825].text |
好謝謝我們主席劉少偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].start |
14588.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].end |
14590.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5826].text |
還有我們普院同仁大家好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].start |
14590.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].end |
14592.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5827].text |
那麼今天我就針對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].start |
14592.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].end |
14594.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5828].text |
教育現場的一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].start |
14594.47 |
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14596.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5829].text |
還有我們電競專班的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].start |
14596.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].end |
14598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5830].text |
健康維護來跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].start |
14598.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].end |
14600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5831].text |
教育部做一個請教那麼是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].start |
14600.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].end |
14602.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[5832].text |
請助次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].start |
14605.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].end |
14607.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5833].text |
委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].start |
14607.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].end |
14609.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5834].text |
好次長您好那首先本席要針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].start |
14609.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].end |
14611.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5835].text |
教師的職場安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].start |
14611.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].end |
14613.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5836].text |
還有校園的申訴制度跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].start |
14613.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].end |
14615.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5837].text |
教育現場的支持系統來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].start |
14615.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].end |
14617.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5838].text |
跟您就教那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].start |
14617.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].end |
14619.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5839].text |
最近大家都在看一部片 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].start |
14619.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].end |
14621.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5840].text |
可能你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].start |
14621.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].end |
14623.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5841].text |
也有人知道就是這個鐵拳教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].start |
14623.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].end |
14625.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5842].text |
是韓劇 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].start |
14625.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].end |
14627.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5843].text |
那裡面一句話讓大家感到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].start |
14627.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].end |
14629.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5844].text |
非常的震撼包括我 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].start |
14629.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].end |
14631.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5845].text |
也就是說劇中提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].start |
14631.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].end |
14633.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5846].text |
如果老師都害怕學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].start |
14633.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].end |
14635.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5847].text |
這個國家就完蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].start |
14635.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].end |
14637.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5848].text |
那我想這說出很多人現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].start |
14637.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].end |
14639.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5849].text |
的無奈 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].start |
14639.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].end |
14641.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5850].text |
我想最近從本席 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].start |
14641.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].end |
14643.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5851].text |
從最近的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].start |
14643.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].end |
14645.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5852].text |
事件看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].start |
14645.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].end |
14647.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5853].text |
其實整個社會現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].start |
14647.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].end |
14649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5854].text |
已經產生很大的變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].start |
14649.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].end |
14651.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[5855].text |
那麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].start |
14651.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].end |
14653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5856].text |
要在這邊做個提醒許多基層的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].start |
14653.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].end |
14655.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5857].text |
教師都感受到社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].start |
14655.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].end |
14657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5858].text |
的一個很大的變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].start |
14657.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].end |
14659.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5859].text |
那麼教育現場長期失控 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].start |
14659.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].end |
14661.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5860].text |
那麼家長濫訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].start |
14661.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].end |
14663.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5861].text |
那麼行政究責跟輿論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].start |
14663.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].end |
14665.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5862].text |
的壓力等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].start |
14665.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].end |
14667.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5863].text |
我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].start |
14667.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].end |
14669.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5864].text |
教育部應該都要有掌握 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].start |
14669.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].end |
14671.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5865].text |
對不對那所以本席要 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].start |
14671.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].end |
14673.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5866].text |
這個請教教育部兩個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].start |
14673.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].end |
14675.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5867].text |
那麼最近面對這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].start |
14675.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].end |
14677.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5868].text |
起教師輕生及重大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].start |
14677.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].end |
14679.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5869].text |
身心壓力的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].start |
14679.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].end |
14681.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5870].text |
你們是不是已經進行了全國性的盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].start |
14681.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].end |
14683.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5871].text |
那包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].start |
14683.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].end |
14685.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5872].text |
教師因為校事會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].start |
14685.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].end |
14687.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5873].text |
家長申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].start |
14687.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].end |
14689.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5874].text |
還有學生的一個衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].start |
14689.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].end |
14691.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5875].text |
跟管教衝突等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].start |
14691.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].end |
14693.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5876].text |
承受的心理壓力跟行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].start |
14693.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].end |
14695.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5877].text |
負擔你們有沒有具體的統計 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].start |
14695.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].end |
14697.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5878].text |
跟風險的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].start |
14697.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].end |
14699.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5879].text |
第二個部分是那老師如果遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].start |
14699.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].end |
14701.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5880].text |
高度衝突的班級那麼重大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].start |
14701.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].end |
14703.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5881].text |
學生行為問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].start |
14703.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].end |
14705.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5882].text |
跟家長不斷的申訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].start |
14705.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].end |
14707.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5883].text |
那目前教育部有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].start |
14707.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].end |
14709.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5884].text |
主動要求的介入還是最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].start |
14709.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].end |
14711.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5885].text |
都有導師任何學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].start |
14711.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].end |
14713.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5886].text |
學務主任自己在承擔呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].start |
14713.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].end |
14715.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5887].text |
是不是可以先請 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].start |
14715.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].end |
14717.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5888].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].start |
14717.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].end |
14719.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5889].text |
在這一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].start |
14719.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].end |
14721.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5890].text |
在今年1月我們提出了一個變革 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].start |
14721.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].end |
14723.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5891].text |
之後其中針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].start |
14723.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].end |
14725.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5892].text |
老師他們在行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].start |
14725.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].end |
14727.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5893].text |
在心理壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].start |
14727.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].end |
14729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5894].text |
除了給予一些法律輔導 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].start |
14729.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].end |
14731.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5895].text |
諮詢之外行政的減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].start |
14731.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].end |
14733.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5896].text |
當然我們在校事會議之間 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].start |
14733.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].end |
14735.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5897].text |
我們禁止所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].start |
14735.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].end |
14737.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5898].text |
立民選舉案件的分流 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].start |
14737.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].end |
14739.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5899].text |
增加輔佐人事後的監督等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].start |
14739.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].end |
14741.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5900].text |
就是希望能夠來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].start |
14741.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5901].end |
14743.61 |
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老師正在面對校事會議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].start |
14743.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].end |
14745.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5902].text |
無奈那我們那時候承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].start |
14745.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].end |
14747.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5903].text |
半年我們1月份實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].start |
14747.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].end |
14749.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5904].text |
那我們觀察半年之後在7月 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].start |
14749.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].end |
14751.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5905].text |
中我們會有一些檢討分析 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].start |
14751.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].end |
14753.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5906].text |
讓整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].start |
14753.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].end |
14755.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5907].text |
校事會議的一個機制可以更加 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].start |
14755.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].end |
14757.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5908].text |
完善或者說還有在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].start |
14757.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].end |
14759.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5909].text |
更精進的地方都是我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].start |
14759.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].end |
14761.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5910].text |
來處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].start |
14761.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].end |
14763.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5911].text |
我想這個校事會議已經長期 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].start |
14763.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].end |
14765.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5912].text |
大家所詬病 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].start |
14765.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].end |
14767.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5913].text |
你們裡面剛才提到的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].start |
14767.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].end |
14769.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5914].text |
比較小級的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].start |
14769.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].end |
14771.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5915].text |
作為當然從今年1月份你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].start |
14771.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].end |
14773.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5916].text |
開始應該要針對積極的作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].start |
14773.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].end |
14775.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5917].text |
然後你們也要去評估一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].start |
14775.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].end |
14777.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5918].text |
大家付出的在校事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].start |
14777.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].end |
14779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5919].text |
會議裡面的成本或因為校事 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].start |
14779.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].end |
14781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5920].text |
會議而引發的整個社會成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].start |
14781.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].end |
14783.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5921].text |
這個部分不是只有風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].start |
14783.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].end |
14785.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5922].text |
評估而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].start |
14785.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].end |
14787.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5923].text |
究竟這樣子的成本符不符合我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].start |
14787.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].end |
14789.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5924].text |
教育的本質我覺得要很大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].start |
14789.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].end |
14791.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5925].text |
一個處理所以教師的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].start |
14791.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].end |
14793.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5926].text |
身心健康不是只有個人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].start |
14793.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].end |
14795.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5927].text |
不是只依賴個人的調適 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].start |
14795.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].end |
14797.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5928].text |
那麼出現這麼多次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].start |
14797.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].end |
14799.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5929].text |
我剛才所講的個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].start |
14799.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].end |
14801.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5930].text |
那你們是不是應該建立一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].start |
14801.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].end |
14803.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5931].text |
相關的指引讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].start |
14803.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].end |
14805.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5932].text |
教育局處也能夠主動的介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].start |
14805.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].end |
14807.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5933].text |
你們應該做最大的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].start |
14807.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].end |
14809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5934].text |
而不是互推提供法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].start |
14809.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].end |
14811.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5935].text |
心理還有行政跟代理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].start |
14811.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].end |
14813.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5936].text |
人力的一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].start |
14813.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].end |
14815.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5937].text |
保護學生跟支持教師不衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].start |
14815.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].end |
14817.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5938].text |
但是沒有安全的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].start |
14817.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].end |
14819.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5939].text |
工作環境我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].start |
14819.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].end |
14821.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5940].text |
整個教育品質就會大打折扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].start |
14821.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].end |
14823.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5941].text |
是是好那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].start |
14823.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].end |
14825.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5942].text |
可不可以請你我知道你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].start |
14825.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].end |
14827.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5943].text |
可能7月會有一個結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].start |
14827.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].end |
14829.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5944].text |
那這個結果出來的時候是不是同步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].start |
14829.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].end |
14831.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5945].text |
可以讓本席的研究室這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].start |
14831.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].end |
14833.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5946].text |
有相關的這個報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].start |
14833.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].end |
14835.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5947].text |
另外補充我應該很 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].start |
14835.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].end |
14837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5948].text |
關心對老師的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].start |
14837.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].end |
14839.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5949].text |
支持制度事實上剛才提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].start |
14839.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].end |
14841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5950].text |
這邊如果萬一老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].start |
14841.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].end |
14843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5951].text |
在班級上遇到一些衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].start |
14843.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].end |
14845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5952].text |
或是破壞行為我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].start |
14845.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].end |
14847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5953].text |
在113年已經有讓老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].start |
14847.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].end |
14849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5954].text |
他可以有一些強制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].start |
14849.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].end |
14851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5955].text |
你們在113年已經有這樣子的相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].start |
14851.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].end |
14853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5956].text |
的這個規定然後這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].start |
14853.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].end |
14855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5957].text |
還層出不窮我想你們就同步 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].start |
14855.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].end |
14857.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5958].text |
的去研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].start |
14857.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].end |
14859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5959].text |
一下為什麼你們的規定在這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].start |
14859.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].end |
14861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5960].text |
還是有這麼大的這個衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].start |
14861.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].end |
14863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5961].text |
是是所以委員剛提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].start |
14863.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].end |
14865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5962].text |
可能要再更積極處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].start |
14865.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].end |
14867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5963].text |
然後時效上也必須 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].start |
14867.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].end |
14869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5964].text |
要更積極一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].start |
14869.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].end |
14871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5965].text |
要不然這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].start |
14871.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].end |
14873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5966].text |
常常碰到這樣一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].start |
14873.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].end |
14875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5967].text |
問題已經好幾年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].start |
14875.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].end |
14877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5968].text |
只是越來越大 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].start |
14877.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].end |
14879.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5969].text |
然後越來越重 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].start |
14879.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].end |
14881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5970].text |
我想這樣一個社會成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].start |
14881.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].end |
14883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5971].text |
其實還蠻值得大家來討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].start |
14883.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].end |
14885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5972].text |
那第二個部分是有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].start |
14885.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].end |
14887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5973].text |
這個電競專班本席這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].start |
14887.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].end |
14889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5974].text |
要提到一個健康防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].start |
14889.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].end |
14891.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5975].text |
的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].start |
14891.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].end |
14893.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5976].text |
那目前我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].start |
14893.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].end |
14895.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5977].text |
在這個做電子 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].start |
14895.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].end |
14897.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5978].text |
競技運動的發展基本法 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].start |
14897.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].end |
14899.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5979].text |
的一個修法的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].start |
14899.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].end |
14901.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5980].text |
那個法的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].start |
14901.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].end |
14903.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5981].text |
那麼電競又成為一個焦點 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].start |
14903.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].end |
14905.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5982].text |
那本席這邊針對健康防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].start |
14905.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].end |
14907.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5983].text |
其實是長期以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].start |
14907.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].end |
14909.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5984].text |
一直關心的這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].start |
14909.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].end |
14911.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5985].text |
2017年 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].start |
14911.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].end |
14913.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5986].text |
運動產業的發展條例也讓電競 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].start |
14913.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].end |
14915.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5987].text |
成為體育的一個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].start |
14915.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].end |
14917.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5988].text |
但是目前高值的電競專班 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].start |
14917.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].end |
14919.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5989].text |
都依附在設計科 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].start |
14919.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].end |
14921.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5990].text |
資料處理科等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].start |
14921.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].end |
14923.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5991].text |
那電競也從電腦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].start |
14923.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].end |
14925.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5992].text |
這個遊戲端轉 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].start |
14925.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].end |
14927.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5993].text |
向了手機 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].start |
14927.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].end |
14929.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5994].text |
所以很重要一點說電競選手 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].start |
14929.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].end |
14931.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5995].text |
的傷害往往不是只有 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].start |
14931.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].end |
14933.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5996].text |
傳統運動常看到的急性扭傷 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].start |
14933.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].end |
14935.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5997].text |
或肌肉撕裂 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].start |
14935.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].end |
14937.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5998].text |
而是長時間高頻率 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].start |
14937.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].end |
14939.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[5999].text |
還有低負荷的重複性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].start |
14939.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].end |
14941.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6000].text |
微創傷所以可能會出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].start |
14941.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].end |
14943.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6001].text |
這個彎道道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].start |
14943.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].end |
14945.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6002].text |
對不起 碗隧道的這個正後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].start |
14945.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].end |
14947.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6003].text |
群還有肌腱的退化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].start |
14947.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].end |
14949.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6004].text |
還有身心的壓迫那麼手遊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].start |
14949.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].end |
14951.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6005].text |
選手可能會因為長時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].start |
14951.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].end |
14953.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6006].text |
低頭造成頸椎壓力然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].start |
14953.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].end |
14955.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6007].text |
會因為雙手懸空的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].start |
14955.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].end |
14957.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6008].text |
操作導致筋膜疼痛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].start |
14957.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].end |
14959.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6009].text |
那麼大拇指肌 |
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14959.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].end |
14961.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6010].text |
的這個負荷 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].start |
14961.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].end |
14963.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6011].text |
甚至連國際的頂尖選手Faker |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].start |
14963.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].end |
14965.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6012].text |
都因為這樣子的傷而停賽 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].start |
14965.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].end |
14967.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6013].text |
所以這些問題不一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].start |
14967.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].end |
14969.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6014].text |
是明顯或即時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].start |
14969.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].end |
14971.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6015].text |
所以本席要請教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].start |
14971.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].end |
14973.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6016].text |
教育部三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].start |
14973.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].end |
14975.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6017].text |
第一個教育部是不是有盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].start |
14975.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].end |
14977.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6018].text |
目前高中職電競專班的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].start |
14977.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].end |
14979.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6019].text |
健康管理機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].start |
14979.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].end |
14981.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6020].text |
那第二個部分是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].start |
14981.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].end |
14983.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6021].text |
你們會不會要求電競專班正式納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].start |
14983.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].end |
14985.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6022].text |
生理防護的課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].start |
14985.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].end |
14987.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6023].text |
包括姿勢管理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].start |
14987.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].end |
14989.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6024].text |
手腕跟肩頸的保護 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].start |
14989.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].end |
14991.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6025].text |
那第三個部分是你們會不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].start |
14991.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].end |
14993.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6026].text |
訂定電競專班 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].start |
14993.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].end |
14995.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6027].text |
最低的健康防護指引 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].start |
14995.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].end |
14997.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6028].text |
要求學校不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].start |
14997.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].end |
14999.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6029].text |
只有競賽訓練喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].start |
14999.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].end |
15001.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6030].text |
而是要建立學生對健康的監測 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].start |
15001.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].end |
15003.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6031].text |
傷害的通報跟必要轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].start |
15003.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].end |
15005.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6032].text |
的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].start |
15005.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].end |
15007.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6033].text |
是不是請次長這邊做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].start |
15007.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].end |
15009.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6034].text |
回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].start |
15009.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].end |
15011.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6035].text |
目前我們確實沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].start |
15011.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].end |
15013.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6036].text |
針對高中職電競專班 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].start |
15013.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].end |
15015.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6037].text |
這些是進行盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].start |
15015.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].end |
15017.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6038].text |
那由委員再提醒之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].start |
15017.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].end |
15019.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6039].text |
我們會依照委員的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].start |
15019.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].end |
15021.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6040].text |
盤點完之後跟運動部這邊來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].start |
15021.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].end |
15023.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6041].text |
怎麼樣在運動的防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].start |
15023.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].end |
15025.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6042].text |
跟選手身心健康這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].start |
15025.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].end |
15027.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6043].text |
來予以協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].start |
15027.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].end |
15029.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6044].text |
好謝謝次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].start |
15029.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].end |
15031.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6045].text |
那本席非常關心這個運動防護 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].start |
15031.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].end |
15033.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6046].text |
的部分然後電競又因為是一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].start |
15033.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].end |
15035.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6047].text |
在這個領域比較新的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].start |
15035.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].end |
15037.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6048].text |
概念所以既然我們承認 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].start |
15037.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].end |
15039.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6049].text |
電競是運動產業的一員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].start |
15039.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].end |
15041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6050].text |
所以謝謝你這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].start |
15041.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].end |
15043.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6051].text |
回應那我們對於運動科學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].start |
15043.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].end |
15045.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6052].text |
在電競專班這個部分的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].start |
15045.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].end |
15047.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6053].text |
一個課程跟處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].start |
15047.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].end |
15049.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6054].text |
我想教育部這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].start |
15049.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].end |
15051.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6055].text |
繼續來跟運動部來做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].start |
15051.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].end |
15053.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6056].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].start |
15058.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].end |
15060.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6057].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].start |
15060.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].end |
15062.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6058].text |
今天登記的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].start |
15063.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].end |
15065.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6059].text |
質詢已經發言完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].start |
15065.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].end |
15067.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6060].text |
詢答結束對委員質詢時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].start |
15067.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].end |
15069.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6061].text |
要求提供相關資料以及未及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].start |
15069.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].end |
15071.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6062].text |
答覆的請相關機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].start |
15071.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].end |
15073.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6063].text |
儘速以書面答覆另由委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].start |
15073.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].end |
15075.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6064].text |
附關起01緊急出書面資料列入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].start |
15075.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].end |
15077.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6065].text |
記錄刊登公報並請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].start |
15077.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].end |
15079.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6066].text |
相關機關以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].start |
15079.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].end |
15081.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6067].text |
書面答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].start |
15082.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].end |
15084.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6068].text |
繼續進行法案逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].start |
15084.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].end |
15086.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6069].text |
威力於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].start |
15087.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].end |
15089.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6070].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].start |
15088.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].end |
15090.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6071].text |
討論喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].start |
15091.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].end |
15093.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6072].text |
準備協商的場地 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].start |
15093.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].end |
15095.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6073].text |
那我也希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].start |
15095.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].end |
15097.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6074].text |
先休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].start |
15097.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].end |
15099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6075].text |
我們休息到下午2點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].start |
15099.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].end |
15101.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6076].text |
然後繼續來進行法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].start |
15101.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].end |
15103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6077].text |
逐條審查大家先行用餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].start |
15103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].end |
15105.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6078].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].start |
19837.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].end |
19839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6079].text |
好現在繼續開會補充介紹 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].start |
19839.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].end |
19841.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6080].text |
下午來練習的教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].start |
19841.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].end |
19843.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[6081].text |
張廖萬堅 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].start |
19847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].end |
19849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6082].text |
現在進行法案逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].start |
19849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].end |
19851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6083].text |
請醫師人員宣讀條文並進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].start |
19851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].end |
19853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6084].text |
討論與協商討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].start |
19853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].end |
19855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6085].text |
如果有新的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].start |
19855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].end |
19857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[6086].text |
請一併宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].start |
19860.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].end |
19862.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6087].text |
討論時請參閱教育部提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].start |
19867.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].end |
19869.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6088].text |
題彙討論版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].start |
19869.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].end |
19871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6089].text |
書面資料並列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].start |
19871.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].end |
19873.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6090].text |
請宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].start |
19876.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].end |
19878.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[6091].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].start |
19877.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].end |
19879.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6092].text |
高級專等教育法第20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].start |
19879.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].end |
19881.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6093].text |
委員科生等18人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].start |
19881.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].end |
19883.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6094].text |
第二項第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].start |
19883.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].end |
19885.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6095].text |
修正美由校長林聘居有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].start |
19885.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].end |
19887.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6096].text |
古島熱誠及專業職能教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].start |
19887.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].end |
19889.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6097].text |
兼任職級為修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].start |
19889.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].end |
19891.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6098].text |
委員吳佩奕等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].start |
19891.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].end |
19893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6099].text |
第二項第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].start |
19893.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].end |
19895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6100].text |
末修正美由校長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].start |
19895.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].end |
19897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6101].text |
第一學生古島法第九條第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].start |
19897.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].end |
19899.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6102].text |
林聘居居一位修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].start |
19900.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].end |
19902.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6103].text |
委員科生等19人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].start |
19902.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].end |
19904.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6104].text |
第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].start |
19904.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].end |
19906.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6105].text |
末增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].start |
19906.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].end |
19908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6106].text |
高級中等學校之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].start |
19908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].end |
19911.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6107].text |
特別包含國民教育及高級中等教育學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].start |
19911.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].end |
19914.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6108].text |
學校得用縣議學生古島法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].start |
19914.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].end |
19916.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6109].text |
及其相關規定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].start |
19916.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].end |
19918.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6110].text |
領域為修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].start |
19918.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].end |
19920.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6111].text |
委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].start |
19920.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].end |
19922.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6112].text |
同委員克志安等19人提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].start |
19932.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].end |
19934.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6113].text |
高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].start |
19934.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].end |
19936.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6114].text |
吳佩奕等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].start |
19936.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].end |
19938.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6115].text |
增訂第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].start |
19938.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].end |
19940.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6116].text |
學校就學代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].start |
19940.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].end |
19942.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6117].text |
自立學校教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].start |
19942.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].end |
19944.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6118].text |
編譯部長宣誘古島學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].start |
19944.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].end |
19946.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6119].text |
相關規定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].start |
19946.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].end |
19948.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6120].text |
委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].start |
19948.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].end |
19950.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6121].text |
第一項中等正經學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].start |
19950.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].end |
19952.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6122].text |
代表律師教育科 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].start |
19952.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].end |
19954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6123].text |
政府編譯部長宣誘古島學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].start |
19954.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].end |
19956.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[6124].text |
各個學生並自學會完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].start |
19957.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].end |
19959.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6125].text |
第一項中等教育實習科 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].start |
19959.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].end |
19961.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6126].text |
學校實習完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].start |
19961.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].end |
19963.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6127].text |
任後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].start |
19963.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].end |
19965.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6128].text |
回到公司請院長請法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].start |
19965.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].end |
19967.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6129].text |
按月他們請求委修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].start |
19967.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].end |
19969.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6130].text |
委員許立貞等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].start |
19969.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].end |
19971.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6131].text |
同委員郭慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].start |
19971.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].end |
19973.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6132].text |
同委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].start |
19973.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].end |
19975.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6133].text |
同委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].start |
19975.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].end |
19977.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6134].text |
同委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].start |
19977.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].end |
19979.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6135].text |
同委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].start |
19979.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].end |
19981.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6136].text |
同委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].start |
19981.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].end |
19983.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6137].text |
同委員羅慶威等提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].start |
19984.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].end |
20001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6138].text |
現在進行高級中等教育法第20條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].start |
20001.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].end |
20003.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6139].text |
逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].start |
20003.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].end |
20005.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6140].text |
第20條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].start |
20005.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].end |
20007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6141].text |
由委員柯志恩等18人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].start |
20007.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].end |
20009.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[6142].text |
委員柯志恩等19人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].start |
20011.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].end |
20013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6143].text |
委員吳佩奕等18人及 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].start |
20013.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].end |
20015.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6144].text |
羅廷瑋17人等4個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].start |
20015.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].end |
20017.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6145].text |
提案說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].start |
20017.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].end |
20019.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6146].text |
委員有沒有現場補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].start |
20019.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].end |
20021.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6147].text |
或者是有意見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].start |
20023.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].end |
20025.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6148].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].start |
20024.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].end |
20026.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6149].text |
都沒有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].start |
20026.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].end |
20028.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6150].text |
那我表達意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].start |
20028.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].end |
20030.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6151].text |
20條因為其實有許多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].start |
20030.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].end |
20032.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6152].text |
有4個委員提出版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].start |
20032.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].end |
20034.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6153].text |
也希望說能夠在繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].start |
20034.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].end |
20036.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6154].text |
政黨協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].start |
20036.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].end |
20038.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6155].text |
能夠再來好好的談 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].start |
20038.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].end |
20040.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6156].text |
所以今天有接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].start |
20040.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].end |
20042.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6157].text |
其他的委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].start |
20042.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].end |
20044.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[6158].text |
是希望能夠保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].start |
20047.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].end |
20049.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6159].text |
好那現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].start |
20049.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].end |
20051.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6160].text |
如果大家都沒有意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].start |
20051.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].end |
20053.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[6161].text |
我們是不是就保留送協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].start |
20055.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].end |
20057.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6162].text |
好審查結果免於重複宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].start |
20057.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].end |
20059.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6163].text |
在不影響條文文藝的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].start |
20059.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].end |
20061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6164].text |
前提下文字調適 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].start |
20061.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].end |
20063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6165].text |
標點符號為統一體力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].start |
20063.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].end |
20065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6166].text |
那授權議事人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].start |
20065.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].end |
20067.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6167].text |
處理列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].start |
20067.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].end |
20069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6168].text |
本案逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].start |
20069.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].end |
20071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6169].text |
均已處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].start |
20071.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].end |
20073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6170].text |
做以下的宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].start |
20073.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].end |
20075.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6171].text |
高級中等教育法第20條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].start |
20075.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].end |
20077.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6172].text |
條文修正相關修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].start |
20078.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].end |
20080.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6173].text |
我們全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].start |
20081.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].end |
20083.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6174].text |
要送 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].start |
20083.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].end |
20085.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6175].text |
已全部審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].start |
20085.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].end |
20087.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6176].text |
那併案擬具審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].start |
20087.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].end |
20089.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6177].text |
提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].start |
20089.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].end |
20091.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6178].text |
那本案須交由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].start |
20091.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].end |
20093.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6179].text |
黨團後續的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].start |
20093.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].end |
20095.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6180].text |
那院會討論時 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].start |
20095.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].end |
20097.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6181].text |
由羅召集委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].start |
20097.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].end |
20099.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6182].text |
庭委來補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].start |
20102.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].end |
20104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6183].text |
好 這一案先這樣處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].start |
20104.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].end |
20106.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6184].text |
我們到時候再來協商的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].start |
20106.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].end |
20108.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6185].text |
再來繼續討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].start |
20109.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].end |
20112.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6186].text |
好 繼續進行高級中等教育法第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].start |
20112.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].end |
20114.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6187].text |
條文修正逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].start |
20114.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].end |
20116.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6188].text |
第58條條文修正由委員王宏輝等 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].start |
20116.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].end |
20119.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6189].text |
24人等11個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].start |
20119.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].end |
20121.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6190].text |
以及委員陳秀寶等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].start |
20121.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].end |
20124.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6191].text |
委員羅廷瑋 徐心穎等人所提 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].start |
20124.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].end |
20126.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6192].text |
修正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].start |
20126.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].end |
20128.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6193].text |
請問提案委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].start |
20130.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].end |
20132.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6194].text |
有沒有要補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].start |
20135.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].end |
20137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6195].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].start |
20136.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].end |
20138.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6196].text |
也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].start |
20138.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].end |
20140.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6197].text |
那我們請相關的部會機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].start |
20141.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].end |
20143.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6198].text |
請說 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].start |
20147.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].end |
20150.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6199].text |
我們現在是高級中等教育法第58條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].start |
20154.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].end |
20156.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6200].text |
這個第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].start |
20156.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].end |
20158.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[6201].text |
委員 不好意思 剛剛有問 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].start |
20159.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].end |
20161.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6202].text |
現在已經換機關了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].start |
20161.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].end |
20163.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6203].text |
不好意思 還是先請機關先講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].start |
20163.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].end |
20165.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6204].text |
抱歉 因為剛剛問的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].start |
20165.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].end |
20167.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6205].text |
委員剛好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].start |
20167.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].end |
20169.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6206].text |
是不是先請機關說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].start |
20169.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].end |
20171.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6207].text |
再請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].start |
20179.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].end |
20181.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6208].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].start |
20181.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].end |
20183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6209].text |
這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].start |
20183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].end |
20185.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6210].text |
是配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].start |
20185.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].end |
20187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6211].text |
整體學生的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].start |
20187.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].end |
20189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6212].text |
國家發展的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].start |
20189.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].end |
20191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6213].text |
以及現行 其實在政策上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].start |
20191.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].end |
20193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6214].text |
也已經初步這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].start |
20193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].end |
20195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6215].text |
那我們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].start |
20195.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].end |
20197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6216].text |
可以並同 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].start |
20197.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].end |
20199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6217].text |
大學還有專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].start |
20199.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].end |
20201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6218].text |
並同一起來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].start |
20201.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].end |
20203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6219].text |
那麼它有它的一致性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].start |
20203.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].end |
20205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6220].text |
那建請委員會參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].start |
20205.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].end |
20207.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6221].text |
補充完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].start |
20208.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].end |
20210.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6222].text |
好 那接下來請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].start |
20210.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].end |
20212.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[6223].text |
委員有沒有要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].start |
20213.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].end |
20215.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[6224].text |
好 國務卿委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].start |
20215.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].end |
20217.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6225].text |
好 第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].start |
20217.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].end |
20219.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6226].text |
那最主要是這個高中時刻 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].start |
20219.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].end |
20221.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6227].text |
課程已經高度依賴這個數位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].start |
20221.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].end |
20223.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6228].text |
資訊 那如果沒有把那個電腦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].start |
20223.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].end |
20225.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6229].text |
的資訊納入 我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].start |
20225.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].end |
20227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6230].text |
特別在我的版本裡面其實也有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].start |
20227.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].end |
20229.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6231].text |
這個啦 雖然今天沒有並案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].start |
20229.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].end |
20231.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6232].text |
但是實際上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].start |
20231.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].end |
20233.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6233].text |
對於所謂的弱勢學生比較容易 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].start |
20233.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].end |
20235.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6234].text |
面臨所謂的這個數位的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].start |
20235.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].end |
20237.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6235].text |
落差 那我當然也是主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].start |
20237.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].end |
20239.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6236].text |
可以這個明文化 那保障這一類 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].start |
20239.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].end |
20241.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6237].text |
的這個基本的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].start |
20241.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].end |
20243.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6238].text |
條件可以得到一個支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].start |
20243.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].end |
20245.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6239].text |
那另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].start |
20245.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].end |
20247.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6240].text |
就是目前還款的這個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].start |
20247.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].end |
20249.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6241].text |
的這個協助還是依賴這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].start |
20249.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].end |
20251.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6242].text |
行政的措施喔 所以如果將這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].start |
20251.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].end |
20253.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6243].text |
還款的協助措施也納入本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].start |
20253.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].end |
20255.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6244].text |
模法來授權的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].start |
20255.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].end |
20257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6245].text |
一個範圍 應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].start |
20257.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].end |
20259.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6246].text |
也可以比較有延續性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].start |
20259.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].end |
20261.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6247].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].start |
20263.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].end |
20265.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6248].text |
好 謝謝 再來陳秀芭委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].start |
20265.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].end |
20267.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6249].text |
謝謝主席喔 在第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].start |
20267.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].end |
20269.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6250].text |
的這部分呢 我提的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].start |
20269.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].end |
20271.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6251].text |
就主要就是針對學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].start |
20271.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].end |
20273.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6252].text |
在新增加在電腦通訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].start |
20273.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].end |
20275.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6253].text |
網路通訊使用費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].start |
20275.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].end |
20277.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6254].text |
以及還有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].start |
20277.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].end |
20279.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6255].text |
還款協助措施喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].start |
20279.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].end |
20281.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6256].text |
希望說我們協助到學生的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].start |
20281.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].end |
20283.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6257].text |
除了說他本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].start |
20283.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].end |
20285.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6258].text |
在貸款的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].start |
20285.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].end |
20287.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6259].text |
還有後續整個還款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].start |
20287.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].end |
20289.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6260].text |
的協助 我們是有方案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].start |
20289.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].end |
20291.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6261].text |
因為每個學生的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].start |
20291.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].end |
20293.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6262].text |
狀態不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].start |
20293.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].end |
20295.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6263].text |
那所以說我們相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].start |
20295.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].end |
20297.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6264].text |
還款協助措施 對他日後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].start |
20297.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].end |
20299.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6265].text |
他本身對這個還款的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].start |
20299.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].end |
20301.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6266].text |
我想這個這樣的協助也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].start |
20301.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].end |
20303.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6267].text |
很必要的喔 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].start |
20305.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].end |
20307.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6268].text |
羅志強委員 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].start |
20310.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].end |
20312.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6269].text |
我想喔 今天我們這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].start |
20312.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].end |
20314.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6270].text |
尤其是就學貸款喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].start |
20314.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].end |
20316.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6271].text |
本黨提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].start |
20316.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].end |
20318.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6272].text |
希望能夠喔 就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].start |
20318.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].end |
20320.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6273].text |
免利率的這個部分 我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].start |
20320.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].end |
20322.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6274].text |
引一段話喔 大家知道這件事的重要性喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].start |
20322.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].end |
20324.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6275].text |
現下就業環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].start |
20324.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].end |
20326.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6276].text |
不佳 不僅是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].start |
20326.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].end |
20328.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6277].text |
應屆大學生面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].start |
20328.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].end |
20330.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6278].text |
畢業及失業的窘境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].start |
20330.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].end |
20332.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6279].text |
那剛畢業12年的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].start |
20332.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].end |
20334.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6280].text |
學生有很多數在求職 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].start |
20334.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].end |
20336.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6281].text |
沒有收入 就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].start |
20336.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].end |
20338.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6282].text |
零利率 可以幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].start |
20338.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].end |
20340.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6283].text |
學生及家庭減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].start |
20340.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].end |
20342.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6284].text |
生活壓力喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].start |
20342.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].end |
20344.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6285].text |
這句話其實是現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].start |
20344.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].end |
20346.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6286].text |
總統在2009年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].start |
20346.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].end |
20348.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6287].text |
擔任立委的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].start |
20348.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].end |
20350.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6288].text |
拜訪當時的教育部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].start |
20350.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].end |
20352.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6289].text |
鄭瑞城所提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].start |
20352.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].end |
20354.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6290].text |
所以我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].start |
20354.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].end |
20356.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6291].text |
是希望當時他是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].start |
20356.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].end |
20358.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6292].text |
要求把就學貸款利率調為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].start |
20358.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].end |
20360.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6293].text |
零啦 來延緩這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].start |
20360.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].end |
20362.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6294].text |
還款期限3年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].start |
20362.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].end |
20364.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6295].text |
讓大學生安心就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].start |
20364.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].end |
20366.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6296].text |
那事實上我們是更進一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].start |
20366.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].end |
20368.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6297].text |
希望能夠落實這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].start |
20368.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].end |
20370.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6298].text |
賴總統最近講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].start |
20370.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].end |
20372.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6299].text |
讓年輕人輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].start |
20372.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].end |
20374.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6300].text |
這樣的一個主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].start |
20374.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].end |
20376.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6301].text |
那更何況近年來由於少子化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].start |
20376.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].end |
20378.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6302].text |
我們的學生的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].start |
20378.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].end |
20380.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6303].text |
大幅的下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].start |
20380.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].end |
20382.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6304].text |
那就學貸款的申請人數也大幅下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].start |
20382.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].end |
20384.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6305].text |
所以這時候我認為教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].start |
20384.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].end |
20386.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6306].text |
還是行有餘力能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].start |
20386.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].end |
20388.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6307].text |
擴大透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].start |
20388.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].end |
20390.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6308].text |
減輕學貸的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].start |
20390.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].end |
20392.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6309].text |
這樣的一個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].start |
20392.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].end |
20394.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6310].text |
能夠來幫助我們的年輕人出社會以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].start |
20394.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].end |
20396.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6311].text |
真真正正可以做到輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].start |
20396.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].end |
20398.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[6312].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].start |
20403.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].end |
20405.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6313].text |
好 謝謝 還有委員嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].start |
20405.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].end |
20407.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6314].text |
我是要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].start |
20407.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].end |
20409.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6315].text |
好 這個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].start |
20409.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].end |
20411.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6316].text |
因為比較遺憾的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].start |
20411.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].end |
20413.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6317].text |
剛剛秀寶委員是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].start |
20413.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].end |
20415.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6318].text |
修正動力的東西提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].start |
20415.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].end |
20417.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6319].text |
因為我們六位委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].start |
20417.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].end |
20419.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6320].text |
版本 執政黨版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].start |
20419.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].end |
20421.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6321].text |
並沒有被排進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].start |
20421.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].end |
20423.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6322].text |
所以我們只能夠用修正動力的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].start |
20423.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].end |
20425.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6323].text |
內容就如剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].start |
20425.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].end |
20427.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6324].text |
修正文字是秀寶委員有跟大家說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].start |
20427.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].end |
20429.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6325].text |
但是這個差別 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].start |
20429.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].end |
20431.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6326].text |
就在這個利息的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].start |
20431.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].end |
20433.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6327].text |
這一次呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].start |
20433.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].end |
20435.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6328].text |
我們在新的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].start |
20435.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].end |
20437.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[6329].text |
第一個我要講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].start |
20439.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].end |
20441.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6330].text |
對於我們的就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].start |
20441.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].end |
20443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6331].text |
目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].start |
20443.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].end |
20445.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6332].text |
有申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].start |
20445.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].end |
20447.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6333].text |
大概是17.5萬人受賄 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].start |
20447.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].end |
20449.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6334].text |
大概占 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].start |
20449.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].end |
20451.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6335].text |
17% 就是有申請的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].start |
20451.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].end |
20453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6336].text |
都享有我們現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].start |
20453.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].end |
20455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6337].text |
就學貸款的優惠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].start |
20455.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].end |
20457.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6338].text |
而現在我們在 |
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20457.02 |
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今年9月開始 |
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我們已經公布的政策 |
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是三個面向 |
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第一個 在學期間全面免息 |
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20465.02 |
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20467.02 |
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第二個 還款的期限呢 |
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20467.02 |
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20469.02 |
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寬限的期限延長至畢業後兩年 |
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20469.02 |
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20471.02 |
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第三個還款的利率 |
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降1% |
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20473.02 |
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20475.02 |
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到0.775% |
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20475.02 |
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20477.02 |
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這是這一次 |
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20477.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6349].end |
20479.02 |
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行政院所提出來的方案 |
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20479.02 |
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20481.02 |
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而比較過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6351].start |
20481.02 |
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20483.02 |
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長年對於貸款的優惠 |
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20483.02 |
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20485.02 |
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或是期限的展延 |
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20485.02 |
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20487.02 |
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都是動用我們 |
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20487.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6354].end |
20489.02 |
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行政部門 |
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20489.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6355].end |
20491.02 |
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在相關的配套 |
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20491.02 |
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20493.02 |
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資法裡頭 |
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20493.02 |
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20495.02 |
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執行的方案 |
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20495.02 |
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20497.02 |
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在相關的配套資法裡頭執行就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6359].start |
20497.02 |
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20499.02 |
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它不需要 |
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20499.02 |
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20501.02 |
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細緻到 |
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20501.02 |
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20503.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6361].text |
把比例 把執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].start |
20503.02 |
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20505.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6362].text |
面向強制入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6363].start |
20505.02 |
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20507.02 |
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所以過去的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].start |
20507.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].end |
20509.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6364].text |
我們的行政辦法可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].start |
20509.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].end |
20511.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6365].text |
編列相關的對應的預算 |
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20511.71 |
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20513.71 |
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這是原本的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6367].start |
20513.71 |
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20515.71 |
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那現在在一黨的委員們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].start |
20515.71 |
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20517.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6368].text |
所提案的幾個版本 |
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20517.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].end |
20521.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6369].text |
它就跟過去往常的做法是不同的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].start |
20521.71 |
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20523.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6370].text |
它特別要用修法的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].start |
20523.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].end |
20525.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6371].text |
把它定死 |
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20525.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].end |
20527.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6372].text |
所以我覺得在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].start |
20527.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].end |
20529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6373].text |
這個做法上 是不是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].start |
20529.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].end |
20531.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6374].text |
用修法 我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].start |
20531.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].end |
20533.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6375].text |
有待相確 我個人是保留的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].start |
20533.71 |
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20535.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6376].text |
而且不應當 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].start |
20535.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].end |
20537.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6377].text |
用 我一再的強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].start |
20537.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].end |
20539.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6378].text |
我們用片面修法的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].start |
20539.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].end |
20541.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6379].text |
去增加政府預算的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].start |
20541.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].end |
20543.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6380].text |
去侵害了行政權限的預算權 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].start |
20543.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].end |
20545.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6381].text |
我想這真的要再三審酌 |
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20548.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].end |
20550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6382].text |
那 所以個人是反對強制入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].start |
20550.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].end |
20552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6383].text |
那如果要入法的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].start |
20552.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].end |
20554.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6384].text |
那就請參賽 |
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20554.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].end |
20556.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6385].text |
執政黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].start |
20556.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].end |
20558.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6386].text |
我們六位委員 今天的案子沒有排進來 |
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20558.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].end |
20560.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6387].text |
但是剛剛 |
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20560.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].end |
20562.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6388].text |
陳修法委員的文字 修正動議的文字 |
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20562.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6389].end |
20564.72 |
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就是我們共同的意見 |
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20564.72 |
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20566.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6390].text |
他以一個原則性的 |
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20566.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].end |
20568.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6391].text |
修法文字 |
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20568.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].end |
20570.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6392].text |
授權行政部門來執行 |
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20570.72 |
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20572.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6393].text |
所以針對 |
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20572.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].end |
20574.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6394].text |
還款協助措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].start |
20574.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].end |
20576.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6395].text |
跟其他因金遵循的方向等等 |
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20577.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].end |
20579.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6396].text |
然後政府可以依學生家庭所得 |
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20579.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].end |
20581.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6397].text |
或經濟特殊的狀況 |
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20581.49 |
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20583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6398].text |
去做必要的處理 |
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20583.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].end |
20585.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6399].text |
授權教育部門 |
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20585.49 |
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20587.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6400].text |
去處置就好 |
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20587.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].end |
20589.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6401].text |
所以我對於這個修法 |
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20589.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].end |
20591.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6402].text |
如果真的要放 |
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20591.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].end |
20593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6403].text |
請參賽陳修法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].start |
20593.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].end |
20595.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6404].text |
我們民進黨級委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].start |
20595.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].end |
20597.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6405].text |
修正文字 修正動議 |
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20597.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].end |
20599.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6406].text |
那執政幾位委員 |
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20599.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].end |
20601.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6407].text |
現在強行入法 |
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20601.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].end |
20603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6408].text |
細節把它入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].start |
20603.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].end |
20605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6409].text |
我真的個人表達反對的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].start |
20605.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].end |
20607.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6410].text |
請大家公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].start |
20610.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].end |
20612.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[6411].text |
吳立華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].start |
20612.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].end |
20614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6412].text |
謝謝主席召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].start |
20614.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].end |
20616.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6413].text |
我一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].start |
20616.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].end |
20618.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6414].text |
我發言是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].start |
20618.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].end |
20620.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6415].text |
那個版本沒有進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].start |
20621.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].end |
20623.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[6416].text |
那我這邊也沒有去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].start |
20624.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].end |
20626.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6417].text |
這個修正動議 |
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20626.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].end |
20628.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[6418].text |
但是我已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].start |
20630.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].end |
20632.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6419].text |
早上的質詢當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].start |
20632.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].end |
20634.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6420].text |
有特別就這一些細項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].start |
20634.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].end |
20636.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6421].text |
來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].start |
20636.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].end |
20638.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6422].text |
跟教育部做質詢關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].start |
20638.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].end |
20640.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6423].text |
那我是 |
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20641.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].end |
20643.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6424].text |
意見是表達是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].start |
20643.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].end |
20645.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6425].text |
不論是關於學貸的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].start |
20645.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].end |
20647.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6426].text |
或者是做助學的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].start |
20647.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].end |
20649.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6427].text |
現在 |
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20649.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].end |
20651.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6428].text |
如果就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].start |
20651.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].end |
20653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6429].text |
辦法或弱勢學生的助學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].start |
20653.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].end |
20655.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6430].text |
計畫辦法 |
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20655.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].end |
20657.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6431].text |
能夠去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].start |
20657.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].end |
20659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6432].text |
那我是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].start |
20659.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].end |
20661.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6433].text |
因為項目可能會越來越多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].start |
20661.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].end |
20663.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6434].text |
就像每一次 |
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20663.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].end |
20665.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6435].text |
一發布什麼政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].start |
20665.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].end |
20667.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6436].text |
我們就會接到一堆電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].start |
20667.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].end |
20669.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6437].text |
說辣掉什麼 辣掉什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].start |
20669.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].end |
20671.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6438].text |
那其實我也是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].start |
20671.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].end |
20673.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6439].text |
如果最快速的方法 |
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20673.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].end |
20675.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6440].text |
就是我們保留一個彈性 |
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20675.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].end |
20677.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6441].text |
要求行政單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].start |
20677.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].end |
20679.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6442].text |
能夠就現有的這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].start |
20679.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].end |
20681.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6443].text |
辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].start |
20681.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].end |
20683.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6444].text |
很快速的去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].start |
20683.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].end |
20685.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6445].text |
那我想這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].start |
20685.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].end |
20687.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6446].text |
也是大家所樂見的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].start |
20687.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].end |
20689.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6447].text |
所以我在這邊做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].start |
20689.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].end |
20691.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6448].text |
這樣的一個意見表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].start |
20691.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].end |
20693.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[6449].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].start |
20692.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].end |
20694.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6450].text |
好 江若琳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].start |
20699.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].end |
20701.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6451].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].start |
20701.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].end |
20703.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6452].text |
那因為這個部分我也有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].start |
20703.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].end |
20705.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6453].text |
那我自己的想法也是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].start |
20705.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].end |
20707.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6454].text |
因為其實我覺得大家都是考量到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].start |
20707.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].end |
20709.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6455].text |
學生現場需要協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].start |
20709.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].end |
20711.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6456].text |
然後大家其實都很照顧學生的一些權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].start |
20711.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].end |
20713.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6457].text |
也很照顧到家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].start |
20713.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].end |
20715.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6458].text |
那我自己也是提了比較原則性的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].start |
20715.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].end |
20717.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6459].text |
因為畢竟助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].start |
20717.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].end |
20719.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6460].text |
可能會隨著時間的滾動 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].start |
20719.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].end |
20721.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6461].text |
會有變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].start |
20721.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].end |
20723.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6462].text |
所以我會認為這些定地於子法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].start |
20723.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].end |
20725.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6463].text |
或是用計畫方式來做滾動的調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].start |
20725.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].end |
20727.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6464].text |
會比我們定在魔法上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].start |
20727.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].end |
20729.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6465].text |
會有靈動性也會更積極 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].start |
20729.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].end |
20731.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6466].text |
所以我自己會希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].start |
20731.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].end |
20733.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6467].text |
我們就是把它定在原則性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].start |
20733.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].end |
20735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6468].text |
魔法上面就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].start |
20735.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].end |
20737.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6469].text |
讓我們未來都會更有彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].start |
20737.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].end |
20739.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6470].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].start |
20741.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].end |
20743.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6471].text |
好 那委員都發言完 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].start |
20743.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].end |
20745.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6472].text |
那換我了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].start |
20745.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].end |
20747.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6473].text |
好 蔡卓仲委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].start |
20751.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].end |
20753.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6474].text |
我贈過那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].start |
20753.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].end |
20755.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6475].text |
高級中等教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].start |
20755.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].end |
20757.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6476].text |
教育法第二條及第五十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].start |
20757.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].end |
20759.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6477].text |
那因為呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].start |
20759.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].end |
20761.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6478].text |
沒有把我們的法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].start |
20761.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].end |
20763.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6479].text |
弄進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].start |
20763.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].end |
20765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6480].text |
因為這個有連動性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].start |
20765.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].end |
20767.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6481].text |
所以我還是在這裡做一個表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].start |
20767.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].end |
20769.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6482].text |
那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].start |
20769.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].end |
20771.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6483].text |
中等 高級中等教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].start |
20771.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].end |
20773.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6484].text |
已經是十二年國民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].start |
20773.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].end |
20775.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6485].text |
基本教育的一環了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].start |
20775.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].end |
20777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6486].text |
那學生仍然有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].start |
20777.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].end |
20779.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6487].text |
在雜會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].start |
20779.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].end |
20781.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6488].text |
還有實習會 書籍會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].start |
20781.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].end |
20783.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6489].text |
住宿會跟生活會 保險會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].start |
20783.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].end |
20785.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6490].text |
及其他的救學成本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].start |
20785.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].end |
20787.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6491].text |
政府支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].start |
20787.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].end |
20789.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6492].text |
不應該只有停留在免協會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].start |
20789.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].end |
20791.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6493].text |
那第十五十八條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].start |
20791.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].end |
20793.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6494].text |
修正的部分除了明定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].start |
20793.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].end |
20795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6495].text |
慚喊期 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].start |
20795.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].end |
20797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6496].text |
利息由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].start |
20797.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].end |
20799.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6497].text |
主管機關按年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].start |
20799.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].end |
20801.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6498].text |
編列的一個預算戶單外 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].start |
20801.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].end |
20803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6499].text |
也要求中央主管 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].start |
20803.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].end |
20805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6500].text |
機關定期的一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].start |
20805.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].end |
20807.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6501].text |
申請資格跟家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].start |
20807.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].end |
20809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6502].text |
所得的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].start |
20809.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].end |
20811.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6503].text |
還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].start |
20811.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].end |
20813.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6504].text |
斟酌了一個物價的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].start |
20813.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].end |
20815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6505].text |
變動 還有其他救學相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].start |
20815.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].end |
20817.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6506].text |
的一個費用水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].start |
20817.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].end |
20819.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6507].text |
家庭的撫養的戶單還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].start |
20819.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].end |
20821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6508].text |
學生的救學需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].start |
20821.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].end |
20823.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[6509].text |
來做一個調整 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].start |
20826.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].end |
20828.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[6510].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].start |
20829.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].end |
20831.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6511].text |
好像現在有修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].start |
20831.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].end |
20833.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[6512].text |
正在應了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].start |
20833.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].end |
20835.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[6513].text |
可以先給我嗎 我先唸吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].start |
20837.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].end |
20839.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[6514].text |
喔 幹嘛去喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].start |
20839.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].end |
20841.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6515].text |
謝謝 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].start |
20843.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].end |
20845.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6516].text |
好啊 那我先補充說明我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].start |
20846.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].end |
20848.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[6517].text |
那我想跟春秋委員所提的一樣喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].start |
20850.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].end |
20852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6518].text |
大學生絕對不會只有救學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].start |
20852.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].end |
20854.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6519].text |
生活中的所有支應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].start |
20854.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].end |
20856.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6520].text |
雜費學習 費書籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].start |
20856.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].end |
20858.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6521].text |
費住宿 費生活 費學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].start |
20858.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].end |
20860.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6522].text |
保險海外 研修 重讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].start |
20860.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].end |
20862.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6523].text |
相關的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].start |
20862.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].end |
20864.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6524].text |
其實都是每一次對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].start |
20864.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].end |
20866.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6525].text |
學生生涯當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].start |
20866.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].end |
20868.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6526].text |
必要的 而且是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].start |
20868.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].end |
20870.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6527].text |
累積的 也會讓他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].start |
20870.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].end |
20872.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[6528].text |
生活負擔非常的重 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].start |
20872.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].end |
20874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6529].text |
那我想 所有的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].start |
20874.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].end |
20876.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6530].text |
都有各自的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].start |
20877.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].end |
20879.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6531].text |
但是都希望給孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].start |
20879.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].end |
20881.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6532].text |
給學生更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].start |
20880.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].end |
20882.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6533].text |
但中間的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].start |
20882.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].end |
20884.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6534].text |
可能有的人是希望用執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].start |
20884.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].end |
20886.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6535].text |
有人覺得不行 一定要保障在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].start |
20886.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].end |
20888.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6536].text |
入法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].start |
20888.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].end |
20890.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6537].text |
所以可能大家各有所見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].start |
20890.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].end |
20892.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6538].text |
那沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].start |
20892.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].end |
20894.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6539].text |
我們是不是就應該送 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].start |
20894.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].end |
20896.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6540].text |
保留院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].start |
20898.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].end |
20900.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6541].text |
這原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].start |
20904.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].end |
20906.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6542].text |
好 請發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].start |
20906.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].end |
20908.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6543].text |
吳時涯委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].start |
20908.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].end |
20910.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6544].text |
我想再補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].start |
20910.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].end |
20912.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6545].text |
如果要強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].start |
20912.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].end |
20914.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6546].text |
入魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].start |
20914.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].end |
20916.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6547].text |
他會造成哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].start |
20916.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].end |
20918.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6548].text |
負面的效益 我可能還是要補充一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].start |
20918.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].end |
20920.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6549].text |
我剛剛沒有提及 大家再思考一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].start |
20920.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].end |
20922.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6550].text |
就是說 政府的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].start |
20922.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].end |
20924.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6551].text |
一定是視國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].start |
20924.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].end |
20926.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6552].text |
裁員的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].start |
20926.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].end |
20928.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6553].text |
國家裁員有餘裕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].start |
20928.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].end |
20930.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6554].text |
那就來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].start |
20930.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].end |
20932.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6555].text |
各種貸款 各種就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].start |
20932.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].end |
20934.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6556].text |
協助的放寬跟加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].start |
20934.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].end |
20936.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6557].text |
所以第一個一定要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].start |
20936.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].end |
20938.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6558].text |
看國家的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].start |
20938.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].end |
20940.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6559].text |
所以如果說入魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].start |
20940.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].end |
20942.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6560].text |
那國家裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].start |
20942.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].end |
20944.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6561].text |
有餘裕要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].start |
20944.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].end |
20946.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6562].text |
一定要回頭再來修魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].start |
20946.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].end |
20948.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[6563].text |
他反而 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].start |
20947.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].end |
20949.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[6564].text |
更不效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].start |
20949.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].end |
20951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6565].text |
在行政權可以做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].start |
20951.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].end |
20953.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6566].text |
他編預算就可以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].start |
20954.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].end |
20956.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6567].text |
所以說如果強制入魔法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].start |
20956.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].end |
20958.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6568].text |
真的反而會讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].start |
20958.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].end |
20960.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6569].text |
幫助學生的美意 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].start |
20960.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].end |
20962.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[6570].text |
被法綁死了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].start |
20963.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].end |
20965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6571].text |
第二個 我們政府要做的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].start |
20965.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].end |
20967.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6572].text |
精準去幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].start |
20967.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].end |
20969.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[6573].text |
需要的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].start |
20970.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].end |
20972.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6574].text |
而不是全面性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].start |
20972.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].end |
20974.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6575].text |
這要回到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].start |
20974.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].end |
20976.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6576].text |
國家的裁員的可行性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].start |
20976.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].end |
20978.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6577].text |
以現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].start |
20978.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].end |
20980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6578].text |
在就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].start |
20980.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].end |
20982.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6579].text |
行政院所宣布的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].start |
20982.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].end |
20984.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6580].text |
三個提升的方案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].start |
20984.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].end |
20986.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6581].text |
預估 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].start |
20986.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].end |
20988.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6582].text |
每年會增加的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].start |
20988.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].end |
20990.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6583].text |
新增預算是15億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].start |
20990.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].end |
20992.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6584].text |
這是教育部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].start |
20992.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].end |
20994.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6585].text |
審酌今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].start |
20994.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].end |
20996.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6586].text |
在新的裁判法修正之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].start |
20996.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].end |
20998.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6587].text |
然後再編明年的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].start |
20998.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].end |
21000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6588].text |
可以調派的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].start |
21000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].end |
21002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6589].text |
可行的裡頭可以做到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].start |
21003.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].end |
21005.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6590].text |
那如果以在立黨委員所提的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].start |
21005.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].end |
21007.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6591].text |
他會增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].start |
21007.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].end |
21009.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6592].text |
政府的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].start |
21009.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].end |
21011.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6593].text |
就貸款這一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].start |
21011.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].end |
21013.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6594].text |
每年至少會再加倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].start |
21013.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].end |
21015.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6595].text |
增加15、16億 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].start |
21015.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].end |
21017.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6596].text |
所以依據財政紀律法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].start |
21017.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].end |
21019.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6597].text |
立法委員如果要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].start |
21019.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].end |
21021.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6598].text |
增加政府預算制支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].start |
21021.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].end |
21023.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6599].text |
需要兩件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].start |
21023.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].end |
21025.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6600].text |
第一個 跟行政部門商議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].start |
21025.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].end |
21027.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6601].text |
第二個 要找出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].start |
21027.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].end |
21029.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6602].text |
妥適合理之裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].start |
21029.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].end |
21031.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6603].text |
顯然在立黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].start |
21031.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].end |
21033.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6604].text |
的這個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].start |
21033.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].end |
21035.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6605].text |
剛剛教育部門早上的詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].start |
21035.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].end |
21037.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6606].text |
等一下也可以讓次長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].start |
21037.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].end |
21039.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6607].text |
來回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].start |
21039.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].end |
21041.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6608].text |
應當是沒有跟行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].start |
21041.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].end |
21043.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6609].text |
有充分的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].start |
21043.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].end |
21045.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6610].text |
那在裁員合理的裁員在哪裡呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].start |
21045.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].end |
21047.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6611].text |
提案的委員顯然可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].start |
21047.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].end |
21049.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6612].text |
也沒有這樣子的權力跟能力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].start |
21049.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].end |
21051.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6613].text |
去提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].start |
21051.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].end |
21053.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6614].text |
合適之裁員補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].start |
21053.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].end |
21055.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6615].text |
所以真的依法論法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].start |
21055.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].end |
21057.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6616].text |
我們都不應當來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].start |
21057.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].end |
21059.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6617].text |
為了入法而入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].start |
21059.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].end |
21061.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6618].text |
而造成實質幫助學生的利益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].start |
21061.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].end |
21063.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6619].text |
他反而更不效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].start |
21063.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].end |
21065.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6620].text |
所以請大家多多的斟酌 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].start |
21065.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].end |
21067.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6621].text |
我們在場委員這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].start |
21067.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].end |
21069.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[6622].text |
我想立法秀寶 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].start |
21072.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].end |
21074.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6623].text |
預期 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].start |
21074.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].end |
21076.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6624].text |
思想 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].start |
21076.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].end |
21078.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6625].text |
我們都表達是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].start |
21077.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].end |
21079.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6626].text |
如果要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].start |
21079.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].end |
21081.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6627].text |
本來是維持現行條文就可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].start |
21081.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].end |
21083.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6628].text |
那如果要改 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].start |
21083.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].end |
21085.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6629].text |
行政院的這個58條的建議文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].start |
21085.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].end |
21087.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6630].text |
是不是再讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].start |
21087.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].end |
21089.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6631].text |
這個教育部回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].start |
21089.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].end |
21091.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6632].text |
我們再做再商量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].start |
21091.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].end |
21093.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6633].text |
再做最終的決定好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].start |
21093.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].end |
21095.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6634].text |
因為好像沒有回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].start |
21095.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].end |
21097.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6635].text |
你要回應嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].start |
21097.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].end |
21099.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6636].text |
可以啊可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].start |
21099.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].end |
21101.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6637].text |
張委跟各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].start |
21101.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].end |
21103.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6638].text |
就是說因為各位可以看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].start |
21103.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].end |
21105.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6639].text |
現行法58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].start |
21105.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].end |
21107.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6640].text |
他事實上已經有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].start |
21107.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].end |
21109.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6641].text |
有關就學代管的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].start |
21109.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].end |
21111.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6642].text |
額度項目權利入籍 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].start |
21111.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].end |
21113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6643].text |
其他應遵循事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].start |
21113.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].end |
21115.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6644].text |
由中央主管機關定資 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].start |
21115.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].end |
21117.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6645].text |
所以過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].start |
21117.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].end |
21119.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6646].text |
不管是委員關心的寬限期的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].start |
21119.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].end |
21121.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6647].text |
或是利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].start |
21121.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].end |
21123.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6648].text |
由政府來補貼多少的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].start |
21123.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].end |
21125.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6649].text |
事實上我們都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].start |
21125.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].end |
21127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6650].text |
就學代管辦法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].start |
21127.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].end |
21129.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6651].text |
就可以來實施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].start |
21129.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].end |
21131.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6652].text |
剛剛委員有提出來關心學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].start |
21131.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].end |
21133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6653].text |
未來的繁榮負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].start |
21133.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].end |
21135.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6654].text |
我們在兼顧學生的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].start |
21135.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].end |
21137.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6655].text |
跟我們整個財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].start |
21137.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].end |
21139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6656].text |
我想教育部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].start |
21139.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].end |
21141.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6657].text |
我們可以根據現行的法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].start |
21141.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].end |
21143.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6658].text |
就可以朝委員你們提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].start |
21143.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].end |
21145.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6659].text |
期待我們就可以來操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].start |
21145.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].end |
21147.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6660].text |
所以是不是可以讓我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].start |
21147.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].end |
21149.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6661].text |
以現行法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].start |
21149.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].end |
21151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6662].text |
我們以在斟酌整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].start |
21151.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].end |
21153.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6663].text |
財務狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].start |
21153.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].end |
21155.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6664].text |
學生還要再負擔0.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].start |
21155.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].end |
21157.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6665].text |
未來如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].start |
21157.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].end |
21159.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6666].text |
在學生的一個負擔部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].start |
21159.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].end |
21161.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6667].text |
我們再持續的做精進 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].start |
21161.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].end |
21163.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6668].text |
這樣其實不用修法也可以做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].start |
21163.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].end |
21165.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6669].text |
這樣會不會讓我們有多一些彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].start |
21165.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].end |
21167.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6670].text |
包含寬限期也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].start |
21167.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].end |
21169.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6671].text |
寬限期事實上我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].start |
21169.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].end |
21171.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6672].text |
也是可以直接在就學代管辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].start |
21171.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].end |
21173.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6673].text |
在目前的法規授權就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].start |
21173.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].end |
21175.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6674].text |
做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].start |
21175.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].end |
21177.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6675].text |
行政單位有一些彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].start |
21177.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].end |
21179.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[6676].text |
以上的補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].start |
21182.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].end |
21184.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[6677].text |
好,我們都這樣委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].start |
21185.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].end |
21187.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6678].text |
我想在座不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].start |
21187.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].end |
21189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6679].text |
朝野的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].start |
21189.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].end |
21191.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6680].text |
還有我們在座的官員包括朝委 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].start |
21191.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].end |
21193.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6681].text |
我想出發點都是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].start |
21193.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].end |
21195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6682].text |
因為我們已經真實看到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].start |
21195.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].end |
21197.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[6683].text |
年輕人的困境跟處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].start |
21198.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].end |
21200.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6684].text |
我們需要為他們分擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].start |
21200.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].end |
21202.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6685].text |
政府有這個責任跟義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].start |
21202.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].end |
21204.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6686].text |
那今天說實在的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].start |
21204.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].end |
21206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6687].text |
今天這個修法本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].start |
21206.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].end |
21208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6688].text |
那其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].start |
21208.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].end |
21210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6689].text |
窮也不能窮學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].start |
21210.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].end |
21212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6690].text |
苦也不能苦青年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].start |
21212.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].end |
21214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6691].text |
所以我覺得行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].start |
21214.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].end |
21216.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6692].text |
可以把它當做一個非常正面的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].start |
21216.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].end |
21218.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6693].text |
就我們大家一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].start |
21218.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].end |
21220.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6694].text |
把年輕人扛起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].start |
21220.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].end |
21222.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6695].text |
這一點我覺得非常的重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].start |
21222.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].end |
21224.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6696].text |
那過去其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].start |
21224.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].end |
21226.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6697].text |
類似的狀況也很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].start |
21226.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].end |
21228.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6698].text |
我們希望能夠在現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].start |
21228.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].end |
21230.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6699].text |
尤其在少子化的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].start |
21230.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].end |
21232.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6700].text |
你也發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].start |
21232.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].end |
21234.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6701].text |
那親屬總統也很重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].start |
21234.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].end |
21236.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6702].text |
他提出很多的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].start |
21236.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].end |
21238.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6703].text |
那當然那些政策提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].start |
21238.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].end |
21240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6704].text |
坦白講哪一樣政策提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].start |
21240.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].end |
21242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6705].text |
沒有國家預算的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].start |
21242.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].end |
21244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6706].text |
沒有所謂國家經費的問題都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].start |
21244.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].end |
21246.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6707].text |
但是我們切重時弊 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].start |
21246.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].end |
21248.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6708].text |
覺得最需要幫助的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].start |
21248.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].end |
21250.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6709].text |
我們應該要提出幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].start |
21250.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].end |
21252.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6710].text |
那我覺得有時候我也必須講一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].start |
21252.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].end |
21254.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6711].text |
自己的感慨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].start |
21254.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].end |
21256.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6712].text |
在野黨立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].start |
21256.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].end |
21258.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6713].text |
在為民生再去爭取的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].start |
21258.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].end |
21260.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6714].text |
經常是走在最前面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].start |
21260.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].end |
21262.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6715].text |
那走到最前面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].start |
21262.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].end |
21264.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6716].text |
常常也是面臨到包括我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].start |
21264.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].end |
21266.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6717].text |
執政黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].start |
21266.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].end |
21268.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6718].text |
有很多的一些指教 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].start |
21268.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].end |
21270.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6719].text |
包括說當時還稅於民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].start |
21270.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].end |
21272.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6720].text |
還假於民 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].start |
21272.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].end |
21274.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6721].text |
發現都是在野黨立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].start |
21274.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].end |
21276.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6722].text |
今天為民之先苦民所苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].start |
21276.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].end |
21278.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6723].text |
我們提出了很多的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].start |
21278.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].end |
21280.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6724].text |
當時甚至抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].start |
21280.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].end |
21282.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6725].text |
我在還稅於民爭取的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].start |
21282.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].end |
21284.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6726].text |
有可能是有理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].start |
21284.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].end |
21286.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6727].text |
可是一旦最後通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].start |
21286.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].end |
21288.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6728].text |
發現執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].start |
21288.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].end |
21290.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6729].text |
包括執政黨跟執政黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].start |
21290.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].end |
21292.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6730].text |
也是歡天喜地在慶祝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].start |
21292.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].end |
21294.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6731].text |
所以這是真的造福人民的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].start |
21294.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].end |
21296.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6732].text |
一個善舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].start |
21296.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].end |
21298.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6733].text |
跟一個公益之舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].start |
21298.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].end |
21300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6734].text |
所以我覺得有些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].start |
21300.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].end |
21302.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6735].text |
其實我們應該要把時間線拉長 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].start |
21302.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].end |
21304.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6736].text |
今天回到最根本的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].start |
21304.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].end |
21306.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6737].text |
今天以國民黨黨版來說的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].start |
21306.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].end |
21308.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6738].text |
貸款利息由政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].start |
21308.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].end |
21310.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6739].text |
編列預算全額補貼 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].start |
21310.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].end |
21312.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6740].text |
到底有沒有辦法實現 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].start |
21312.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].end |
21314.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6741].text |
今天賴清德總統自己揭示的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].start |
21314.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].end |
21316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6742].text |
讓年輕人輕裝上陣 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].start |
21316.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].end |
21318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6743].text |
減少年輕人出社會的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].start |
21318.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].end |
21320.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6744].text |
他面臨學代的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].start |
21320.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].end |
21322.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6745].text |
這樣一個強大的財務壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].start |
21322.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].end |
21324.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6746].text |
所以這樣的進步立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].start |
21324.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].end |
21326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6747].text |
我認為說相關單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].start |
21326.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].end |
21328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6748].text |
應該還是要以正面態度看待 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].start |
21328.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].end |
21330.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6749].text |
當然有不同意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].start |
21330.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].end |
21332.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6750].text |
其實本來就是我們今天審查討論的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].start |
21332.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].end |
21334.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6751].text |
大家交換意見的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].start |
21334.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].end |
21336.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6752].text |
那如果真的有意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].start |
21336.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].end |
21338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6753].text |
大家沒有辦法立刻達成共識的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].start |
21338.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].end |
21340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6754].text |
其實我們委員會審查也是第一階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].start |
21340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].end |
21342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6755].text |
那到時候保留做院會再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].start |
21342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].end |
21344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6756].text |
我們還是有很多交換意見的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].start |
21344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].end |
21346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6757].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].start |
21350.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].end |
21352.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[6758].text |
我還沒講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].start |
21352.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].end |
21354.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[6759].text |
各位行為員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].start |
21355.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].end |
21357.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6760].text |
我想現在的這個目前的學代 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].start |
21357.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].end |
21359.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6761].text |
其實已經有這個授權辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].start |
21359.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].end |
21361.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6762].text |
其實讓教育部來制定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].start |
21361.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].end |
21363.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6763].text |
那剛剛其實我們多數 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].start |
21363.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].end |
21365.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6764].text |
執政黨委員跟行政部門的一些意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].start |
21365.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].end |
21367.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6765].text |
如果召委或是主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].start |
21367.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].end |
21369.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6766].text |
有不同意的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].start |
21369.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].end |
21371.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6767].text |
那我認為這一條是不是就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].start |
21371.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].end |
21373.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6768].text |
好 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].start |
21375.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].end |
21377.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6769].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].start |
21377.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].end |
21379.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6770].text |
我發言啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].start |
21379.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].end |
21381.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6771].text |
因為先不主持 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].start |
21381.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].end |
21383.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6772].text |
那我想也是因為許多的學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].start |
21383.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].end |
21385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6773].text |
一直不斷的在倡議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].start |
21385.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].end |
21387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6774].text |
那我想這個部分還是希望政府能夠看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].start |
21387.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].end |
21389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6775].text |
我們當然相信政府現在目前的制定政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].start |
21389.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].end |
21391.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6776].text |
已經有在做部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].start |
21391.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].end |
21393.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6777].text |
但是就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].start |
21393.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].end |
21395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6778].text |
沒有呼應到整個學生團體的一個需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].start |
21395.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].end |
21397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6779].text |
所以學生團體甚至也召開記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].start |
21397.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].end |
21399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6780].text |
希望我們能夠協助這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].start |
21399.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].end |
21401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6781].text |
所以今天才會在討論這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].start |
21401.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].end |
21403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6782].text |
那能夠幫他們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].start |
21403.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].end |
21405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6783].text |
能夠爭取更多的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].start |
21405.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].end |
21407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6784].text |
但是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].start |
21407.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].end |
21409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6785].text |
我想要拋出一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].start |
21409.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].end |
21411.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[6786].text |
也希望教育部好好想一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].start |
21411.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].end |
21413.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[6787].text |
有一個議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].start |
21413.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].end |
21415.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[6788].text |
他提出排2 |
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21417.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].end |
21419.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6789].text |
那我認為有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].start |
21419.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].end |
21421.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6790].text |
不管是教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].start |
21421.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].end |
21423.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6791].text |
比較狀況非常糟糕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].start |
21423.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].end |
21425.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6792].text |
同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].start |
21425.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].end |
21427.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6793].text |
有沒有這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].start |
21427.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].end |
21429.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6794].text |
甚至他違法那當然就是一定 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].start |
21429.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].end |
21431.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6795].text |
所謂排2的內容裡面 |
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21431.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].end |
21433.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6796].text |
有一些樣態是不是有機會如果是排2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].start |
21433.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].end |
21435.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6797].text |
能夠把他納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].start |
21435.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].end |
21437.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6798].text |
我想這也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].start |
21437.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].end |
21439.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6799].text |
民眾所能夠樂見的 |
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21439.22 |
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21441.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[6800].text |
因為如果有一些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].start |
21444.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].end |
21446.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[6801].text |
二列的二 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].start |
21445.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6802].end |
21447.96 |
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對不起因為您的眼神 |
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21447.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].end |
21449.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6803].text |
我覺得你好像嚇到我 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].start |
21449.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].end |
21451.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6804].text |
對不起我以為是你沒有知 |
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21451.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].end |
21453.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6805].text |
對不起對不起 |
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21453.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].end |
21455.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6806].text |
我想說你怎麼會用那個眼神看我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].start |
21455.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].end |
21457.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6807].text |
我講的太扯了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].start |
21457.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].end |
21459.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[6808].text |
原來是文字上大家還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].start |
21461.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].end |
21463.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[6809].text |
當然有違規違法 |
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21465.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].end |
21467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6810].text |
甚至是旅圈不聽影響上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].start |
21467.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].end |
21469.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6811].text |
甚至就是整個造成 |
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21469.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].end |
21471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6812].text |
教育現場的困境的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].start |
21471.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].end |
21473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6813].text |
這個政府不應該去 |
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21473.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].end |
21475.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6814].text |
幫助這樣子的學生 |
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21475.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].end |
21477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6815].text |
那能不能有這個排2的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].start |
21477.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].end |
21479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6816].text |
能夠把他 |
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21479.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].end |
21481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6817].text |
列入到我們不應該去 |
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21481.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].end |
21483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6818].text |
讓他享受後續的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].start |
21483.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].end |
21485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6819].text |
優惠福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].start |
21485.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].end |
21487.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[6820].text |
我覺得這也可以給孩子一個警惕 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].start |
21487.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].end |
21489.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6821].text |
因為我們也有另外一個教育二列的現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].start |
21489.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6822].end |
21491.82 |
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就是學生不怕 |
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21491.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].end |
21493.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[6823].text |
記警告不怕記 |
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21494.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].end |
21496.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6824].text |
當然大學的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].start |
21496.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].end |
21498.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6825].text |
有所謂的退學 |
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21498.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].end |
21500.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6826].text |
當然這個部分我都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].start |
21500.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].end |
21502.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6827].text |
只是我說像這種 |
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21502.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].end |
21504.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6828].text |
福利優惠有沒有機會也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].start |
21504.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].end |
21506.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6829].text |
排2的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].start |
21506.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].end |
21508.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6830].text |
出來我也希望請我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].start |
21508.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].end |
21510.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6831].text |
我們的教育部的主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].start |
21510.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].end |
21512.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6832].text |
應該能夠納入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].start |
21512.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].end |
21514.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[6833].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].start |
21514.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].end |
21516.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6834].text |
好 剛剛有委員提出保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].start |
21516.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].end |
21518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6835].text |
送院會處理 |
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21518.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].end |
21520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6836].text |
我想今天大家都非常的認真 |
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21520.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].end |
21522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6837].text |
而且都提出各自見解 |
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21522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].end |
21524.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6838].text |
因為沒有太多的交集 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].start |
21524.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].end |
21526.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6839].text |
所以我們就保留送院會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].start |
21528.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].end |
21530.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6840].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].start |
21558.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].end |
21560.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[6841].text |
這次由羅召集委員庭委做補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].start |
21570.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].end |
21572.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6842].text |
好 繼續進行大學法第35條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].start |
21572.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].end |
21574.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6843].text |
逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].start |
21574.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].end |
21576.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6844].text |
第35條條文修正有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].start |
21576.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].end |
21578.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[6845].text |
委員柯志恩等16人等16個提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].start |
21580.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].end |
21582.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6846].text |
以及委員陳秀寶等人所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].start |
21582.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].end |
21584.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[6847].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].start |
21584.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].end |
21586.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[6848].text |
以及委員吳思瑤 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].start |
21587.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].end |
21589.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6849].text |
所提出的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].start |
21589.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].end |
21591.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6850].text |
以及委員羅庭委所提出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].start |
21591.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].end |
21593.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6851].text |
修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].start |
21593.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].end |
21595.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[6852].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].start |
21596.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].end |
21598.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[6853].text |
請委員發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].start |
21598.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].end |
21600.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[6854].text |
謝謝 我們陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].start |
21602.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].end |
21604.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6855].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].start |
21604.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].end |
21606.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6856].text |
在這個部分第35條的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].start |
21606.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].end |
21608.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6857].text |
我提的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].start |
21608.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].end |
21610.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6858].text |
跟剛才的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].start |
21610.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].end |
21612.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6859].text |
高級中等學教育法的第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].start |
21612.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].end |
21614.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6860].text |
一樣就是要加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].start |
21614.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].end |
21616.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6861].text |
現在學生他們在學習上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].start |
21616.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].end |
21618.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6862].text |
相關的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].start |
21618.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].end |
21620.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6863].text |
像電腦網路通訊使用費 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].start |
21620.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].end |
21622.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6864].text |
以及我們後續的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].start |
21622.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].end |
21624.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6865].text |
還款協助措施這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].start |
21624.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].end |
21626.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6866].text |
都應該要我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].start |
21626.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].end |
21628.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6867].text |
有個辦法來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].start |
21628.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].end |
21630.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6868].text |
另外在下面我也在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].start |
21630.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].end |
21632.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6869].text |
加了就是比較特殊的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].start |
21632.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].end |
21634.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6870].text |
政府應該依學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].start |
21634.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].end |
21636.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6871].text |
家庭所得或其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].start |
21636.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].end |
21638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6872].text |
突發經濟不利情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].start |
21638.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].end |
21640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6873].text |
提供經濟不利處境學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].start |
21640.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].end |
21642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6874].text |
助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].start |
21642.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].end |
21644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6875].text |
其助學條件額度權利義務及其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].start |
21644.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].end |
21646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6876].text |
應遵循事項之 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].start |
21646.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].end |
21648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6877].text |
辦法由教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].start |
21648.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].end |
21650.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6878].text |
定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].start |
21650.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].end |
21652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6879].text |
那其實從剛才的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].start |
21652.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].end |
21654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6880].text |
58條到現在我們要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].start |
21654.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].end |
21656.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[6881].text |
講的第35條大學法第35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].start |
21659.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].end |
21661.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6882].text |
我一直從今天早上的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].start |
21661.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].end |
21663.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6883].text |
到現在我就一直強調說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].start |
21663.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].end |
21665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6884].text |
訂定一個概括性的條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].start |
21665.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].end |
21667.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6885].text |
就是授權給 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].start |
21667.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].end |
21669.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6886].text |
教育部這邊來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].start |
21669.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].end |
21671.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6887].text |
訂相關的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].start |
21671.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].end |
21673.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6888].text |
辦法不要直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].start |
21673.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].end |
21675.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6889].text |
用法律去明遞各種的樣態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].start |
21675.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].end |
21677.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6890].text |
這樣子才能 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].start |
21677.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].end |
21679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6891].text |
能夠讓相關的措施相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].start |
21679.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].end |
21681.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6892].text |
辦法更靈活我們如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].start |
21681.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].end |
21683.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6893].text |
直接把所有的樣態寫在裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].start |
21683.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].end |
21685.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6894].text |
讓整個助學措施將化 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].start |
21685.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].end |
21687.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6895].text |
有什麼不一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].start |
21687.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].end |
21689.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6896].text |
形態增加的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].start |
21689.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].end |
21691.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6897].text |
會有來不及應變然後必須要 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].start |
21691.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].end |
21693.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6898].text |
再等待修法這樣子的一個空窗 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].start |
21693.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].end |
21695.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6899].text |
反而是去 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].start |
21695.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].end |
21697.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6900].text |
協助學生救學的初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].start |
21697.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].end |
21699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6901].text |
所以這個部分我是就原有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].start |
21699.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].end |
21701.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6902].text |
條文來做提一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].start |
21701.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].end |
21703.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[6903].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].start |
21704.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].end |
21706.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[6904].text |
好 國新委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].start |
21709.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].end |
21711.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6905].text |
好 這邊其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].start |
21711.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].end |
21713.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6906].text |
我的版本沒有被 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].start |
21713.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].end |
21715.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6907].text |
納入不過剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].start |
21715.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].end |
21717.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6908].text |
echo一下這個修法委員他提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].start |
21717.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].end |
21719.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6909].text |
修正動議那剛剛有特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].start |
21719.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].end |
21721.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6910].text |
提到這個數位學習其實已經是一個常態 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].start |
21721.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].end |
21723.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6911].text |
的那電腦跟網路的 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].start |
21723.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].end |
21725.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6912].text |
這樣子的一個基本學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].start |
21725.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].end |
21727.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6913].text |
的一個配備其實我們也希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].start |
21727.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].end |
21729.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6914].text |
提案能夠進入所謂的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].start |
21729.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].end |
21731.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6915].text |
貸款的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].start |
21731.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].end |
21733.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6916].text |
另外就是我們把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].start |
21733.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].end |
21735.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6917].text |
這個還款的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].start |
21735.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].end |
21737.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6918].text |
還款協助的一個措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].start |
21737.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].end |
21739.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6919].text |
這個授權讓這個教育部能夠針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].start |
21739.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].end |
21741.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6920].text |
就是職場初期 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].start |
21741.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].end |
21743.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6921].text |
的一些青年提供更具有 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].start |
21743.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].end |
21745.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6922].text |
韌性的一個支持的一個機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].start |
21745.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].end |
21747.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6923].text |
那在這個地方其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].start |
21747.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].end |
21749.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6924].text |
我比較主張是原則入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].start |
21749.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].end |
21751.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6925].text |
那就是民進政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].start |
21751.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].end |
21753.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6926].text |
照顧弱勢的一個責任但是呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].start |
21753.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].end |
21755.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6927].text |
比整個所有這個條文裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].start |
21755.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].end |
21757.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6928].text |
我看到其他人的版本就是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].start |
21757.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].end |
21759.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6929].text |
那些具體的數字寫在那個上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].start |
21759.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].end |
21761.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6930].text |
可能會比較具有彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].start |
21761.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].end |
21763.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6931].text |
因為我們可能會隨著物價 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].start |
21763.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].end |
21765.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6932].text |
的波動還來做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].start |
21765.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].end |
21767.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6933].text |
滾動式的一個調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].start |
21767.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].end |
21769.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6934].text |
那所以我不傾向把這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].start |
21769.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].end |
21771.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6935].text |
具體的數字放在這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].start |
21771.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].end |
21773.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[6936].text |
好以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].start |
21772.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].end |
21775.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[6937].text |
好我是藥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].start |
21777.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].end |
21779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6938].text |
好謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].start |
21779.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].end |
21781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6939].text |
這個提案一樣民進黨的六位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].start |
21781.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].end |
21783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6940].text |
的版本都被排除沒有列進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].start |
21783.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].end |
21785.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6941].text |
我們不得已只好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].start |
21785.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].end |
21787.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6942].text |
用修正動議的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].start |
21787.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].end |
21789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6943].text |
來提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].start |
21789.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].end |
21791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6944].text |
那條文的爭點大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].start |
21791.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].end |
21793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6945].text |
是四項 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].start |
21793.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].end |
21795.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6946].text |
第一項就是就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].start |
21795.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].end |
21797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6947].text |
的免利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].start |
21797.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].end |
21799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6948].text |
那這個部分如果就這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].start |
21799.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].end |
21801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6949].text |
版本加進來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].start |
21801.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].end |
21803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6950].text |
如果通過的話是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].start |
21803.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].end |
21805.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[6951].text |
增加政府支出是七億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].start |
21806.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].end |
21808.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6952].text |
我先就裁員的部分來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].start |
21808.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].end |
21810.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6953].text |
第二塊是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].start |
21810.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].end |
21812.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6954].text |
有兩個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].start |
21812.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].end |
21816.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6955].text |
一個是對於調整免納學費的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].start |
21816.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].end |
21818.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6956].text |
柯志文委員所提的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].start |
21818.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].end |
21820.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6957].text |
家庭所得進額適用稅率12% |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].start |
21820.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].end |
21822.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6958].text |
的這一類的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].start |
21822.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].end |
21824.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6959].text |
那他大概含擴率會高達 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].start |
21824.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].end |
21826.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6960].text |
九成以上的大學學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].start |
21826.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].end |
21828.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6961].text |
所以這樣的話預算增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].start |
21828.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].end |
21830.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6962].text |
的是挺高的政府的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].start |
21830.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].end |
21832.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6963].text |
一年大概會增加四百億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].start |
21832.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].end |
21834.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6964].text |
好我想教育部門等一下可以說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].start |
21834.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].end |
21836.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6965].text |
一下那如果是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].start |
21836.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].end |
21838.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6966].text |
羅庭薇委員的提案呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].start |
21838.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].end |
21840.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6967].text |
還包括其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].start |
21840.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].end |
21842.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6968].text |
的提案譬如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].start |
21842.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].end |
21844.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6969].text |
一人之委員都是把 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].start |
21844.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].end |
21846.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6970].text |
家庭所得用五等分的最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].start |
21846.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].end |
21848.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6971].text |
百分之二十來調整免納 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].start |
21848.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].end |
21850.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6972].text |
學費的標準的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].start |
21850.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].end |
21852.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6973].text |
增加政府裁員的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].start |
21852.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].end |
21854.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6974].text |
就小一點但也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].start |
21854.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].end |
21856.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6975].text |
一個可觀的數字每年 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].start |
21856.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].end |
21858.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6976].text |
大概增加一百億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].start |
21858.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].end |
21860.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6977].text |
那第四個爭點就在 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].start |
21860.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].end |
21862.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6978].text |
對於哪些學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].start |
21862.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].end |
21864.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6979].text |
學生他可以來辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].start |
21864.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].end |
21866.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6980].text |
就學貸款的這個資格 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].start |
21866.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].end |
21868.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6981].text |
就是家庭所得總額 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].start |
21868.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].end |
21870.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6982].text |
的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].start |
21870.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].end |
21872.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6983].text |
標準好是一百五十萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].start |
21872.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].end |
21874.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6984].text |
以上以下好三級黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].start |
21874.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].end |
21876.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6985].text |
有這樣的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].start |
21876.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].end |
21878.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6986].text |
但是因為現在我們能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].start |
21878.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].end |
21880.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6987].text |
適用的就學貸款的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].start |
21880.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].end |
21882.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[6988].text |
的額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].start |
21882.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].end |
21884.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6989].text |
是一百二十 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].start |
21884.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].end |
21886.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6990].text |
二十萬左右嘛對 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].start |
21886.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].end |
21888.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6991].text |
一二零還一二八一二零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].start |
21888.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].end |
21890.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6992].text |
一二零一二零那如果說 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].start |
21890.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].end |
21892.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6993].text |
真的還有需要的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].start |
21892.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].end |
21894.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6994].text |
他其實也可以去走弱勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].start |
21894.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].end |
21896.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6995].text |
所需要的特殊的那個路徑 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].start |
21896.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].end |
21898.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6996].text |
所以政府在現行的政策教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].start |
21898.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].end |
21900.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6997].text |
是盡可能都幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].start |
21900.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].end |
21902.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6998].text |
只要有需要有貸款需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].start |
21902.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].end |
21904.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[6999].text |
的我們都可以用各種行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].start |
21904.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].end |
21906.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7000].text |
工具幫助他可以帶得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].start |
21906.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].end |
21908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7001].text |
減輕他的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].start |
21908.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].end |
21910.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7002].text |
所以現在呢來討論的幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].start |
21910.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].end |
21912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7003].text |
國民黨級委員所提的提案 |
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21912.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7004].end |
21914.61 |
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還是會回到 |
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21914.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].end |
21916.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7005].text |
我們雖然要增加對於學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].start |
21916.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].end |
21918.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7006].text |
的照顧但是在預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].start |
21918.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].end |
21920.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7007].text |
的增加的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].start |
21920.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].end |
21922.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7008].text |
還有是不是一定要用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].start |
21922.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].end |
21924.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7009].text |
強制入法的方式還是授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].start |
21924.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].end |
21926.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7010].text |
行政部門在財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].start |
21926.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].end |
21928.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7011].text |
有餘裕的時候就可以隨時 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].start |
21928.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].end |
21930.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7012].text |
機動的來做他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].start |
21930.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].end |
21932.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7013].text |
更快速更可以精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].start |
21932.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].end |
21934.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7014].text |
的照顧到需要的學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].start |
21934.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].end |
21936.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7015].text |
他會優於強制的入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].start |
21936.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].end |
21938.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7016].text |
法所以民進黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].start |
21938.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].end |
21940.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7017].text |
的幾位的提案我們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].start |
21940.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].end |
21942.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[7018].text |
參採一個原則性的入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7019].start |
21944.05 |
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21946.05 |
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那都是希望給行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].start |
21946.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7020].end |
21948.05 |
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更大的彈性快速 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].start |
21948.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7021].end |
21950.05 |
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及時精準的照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].start |
21950.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].end |
21952.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7022].text |
需要被擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].start |
21952.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].end |
21954.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7023].text |
照顧的學生反而真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].start |
21954.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].end |
21956.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7024].text |
為了入法而入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].start |
21956.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].end |
21958.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7025].text |
可能會去延宕了政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].start |
21958.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].end |
21960.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7026].text |
上路的效益喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].start |
21960.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].end |
21962.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7027].text |
所以這個部分我們都保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].start |
21962.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].end |
21964.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7028].text |
對於幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].start |
21964.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].end |
21966.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7029].text |
在業黨委員提案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].start |
21966.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].end |
21968.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7030].text |
內容那如果要真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].start |
21968.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].end |
21970.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7031].text |
要講是柯志銘委員的版本要走 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].start |
21970.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].end |
21972.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7032].text |
還是羅庭偉教委的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].start |
21972.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].end |
21974.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7033].text |
要走這恐怕大家也還沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].start |
21974.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].end |
21976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7034].text |
共識啦所以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].start |
21976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].end |
21978.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7035].text |
我是認為這個條文都應當 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].start |
21978.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].end |
21980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7036].text |
審討一下如果真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].start |
21980.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].end |
21982.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7037].text |
要修請參採行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].start |
21982.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].end |
21984.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7038].text |
跟我們幾位委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].start |
21984.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].end |
21986.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7039].text |
共同討論出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].start |
21986.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].end |
21988.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7040].text |
一個原則性的條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].start |
21988.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].end |
21990.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7041].text |
條文已經在題彙討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].start |
21990.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].end |
21992.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7042].text |
版本裡頭來列出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].start |
21992.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].end |
21994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7043].text |
政府應依學生家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].start |
21994.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].end |
21996.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7044].text |
所得或其突發 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].start |
21996.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].end |
21998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7045].text |
經濟不利情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].start |
21998.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].end |
22000.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7046].text |
提供經濟不利處境 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].start |
22000.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].end |
22002.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7047].text |
學生助學措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].start |
22002.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].end |
22004.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7048].text |
其助學條件額度權力義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].start |
22004.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].end |
22006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7049].text |
及其他因進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].start |
22006.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].end |
22008.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7050].text |
事項之辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].start |
22008.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].end |
22010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7051].text |
由教育部定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].start |
22010.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].end |
22012.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7052].text |
我想這樣的文字是非常的周延 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].start |
22012.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].end |
22014.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7053].text |
而且可行而且真的可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].start |
22014.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].end |
22016.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7054].text |
有效照顧到學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].start |
22016.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].end |
22018.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[7055].text |
以上報告謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].start |
22018.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].end |
22020.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7056].text |
好我們要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].start |
22021.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].end |
22023.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7057].text |
好謝謝教委主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].start |
22023.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].end |
22025.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7058].text |
那一樣原本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].start |
22025.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].end |
22027.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7059].text |
有版本但是現在用修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].start |
22027.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].end |
22029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7060].text |
那針對這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].start |
22029.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].end |
22031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7061].text |
意見其實跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].start |
22031.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].end |
22033.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7062].text |
前面的幾位講的都差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].start |
22033.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].end |
22035.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7063].text |
我是增加了第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].start |
22035.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].end |
22037.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7064].text |
那就是再給他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].start |
22037.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].end |
22039.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7065].text |
做一個原則性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].start |
22039.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].end |
22041.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7066].text |
的明確的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].start |
22041.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].end |
22043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7067].text |
就是政府可以依學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].start |
22043.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].end |
22045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7068].text |
家庭所得或其他經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].start |
22045.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].end |
22047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7069].text |
狀況提供經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].start |
22047.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].end |
22049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7070].text |
不利處境的學生助學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].start |
22049.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].end |
22051.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7071].text |
的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].start |
22051.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].end |
22053.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7072].text |
那至於助學的條件額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].start |
22053.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].end |
22055.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7073].text |
權力義務跟其他因遵行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].start |
22055.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].end |
22057.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7074].text |
的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].start |
22057.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].end |
22059.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7075].text |
就是定一個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].start |
22059.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].end |
22061.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7076].text |
另定之那我還是延續 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].start |
22061.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].end |
22063.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7077].text |
剛剛說法既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].start |
22063.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].end |
22065.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7078].text |
學代也好助學也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].start |
22065.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].end |
22067.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7079].text |
現行就已經有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].start |
22067.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].end |
22069.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7080].text |
那這個部分還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].start |
22069.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].end |
22071.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7081].text |
教育部能夠就我們所關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].start |
22071.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].end |
22073.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7082].text |
的目前學生所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].start |
22073.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].end |
22075.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7083].text |
等等都能夠把它 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].start |
22075.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].end |
22077.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7084].text |
完備由教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].start |
22077.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].end |
22079.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7085].text |
那我自己是有增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].start |
22079.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].end |
22081.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7086].text |
不一樣的條文就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].start |
22081.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].end |
22083.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7087].text |
如果涉及到原住民的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].start |
22083.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].end |
22085.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7088].text |
由教育部會同中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].start |
22085.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].end |
22087.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7089].text |
原住民組主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].start |
22087.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].end |
22089.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7090].text |
要共同定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].start |
22089.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].end |
22091.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7091].text |
做這樣的意見表達謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].start |
22092.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].end |
22094.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[7092].text |
好蔡宣照委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].start |
22096.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].end |
22098.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7093].text |
好 主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].start |
22099.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].end |
22101.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7094].text |
大學生法第35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].start |
22101.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].end |
22103.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7095].text |
那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].start |
22103.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].end |
22105.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7096].text |
台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].start |
22105.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].end |
22107.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7097].text |
也有檔本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].start |
22107.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].end |
22109.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7098].text |
在這裡再做一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].start |
22109.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].end |
22111.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7099].text |
那大學生就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].start |
22111.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].end |
22113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7100].text |
貸款制度的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].start |
22113.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].end |
22115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7101].text |
是要有一個魔法依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[7102].start |
22115.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7102].end |
22117.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7102].text |
大學生面臨的一個學會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7103].start |
22117.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7103].end |
22119.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7103].text |
住宿生活會還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].start |
22119.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].end |
22121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7104].text |
畢業初期就業的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].start |
22121.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].end |
22123.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7105].text |
壓力如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].start |
22123.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].end |
22125.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7106].text |
就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].start |
22125.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].end |
22127.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7107].text |
保障不足將會影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].start |
22127.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].end |
22129.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7108].text |
侵略的一個生學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].start |
22129.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].end |
22131.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7109].text |
就業成家還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].start |
22131.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].end |
22133.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7110].text |
那個職業的一個選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].start |
22133.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].end |
22135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7111].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].start |
22135.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].end |
22137.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7112].text |
這個就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].start |
22137.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].end |
22139.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7113].text |
自貸款日 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].start |
22139.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].end |
22141.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7114].text |
自償還期 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].start |
22141.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].end |
22143.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7115].text |
期算日前之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].start |
22143.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7116].end |
22145.47 |
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例行應該由 |
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22145.47 |
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22147.47 |
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各主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].start |
22147.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].end |
22149.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7118].text |
按年編列預算來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].start |
22149.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].end |
22151.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7119].text |
負擔是把盛行的一個制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7120].start |
22151.47 |
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22153.47 |
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中最直接影響 |
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22153.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7121].end |
22155.47 |
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學生負擔的部分提升到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].start |
22155.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].end |
22157.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7122].text |
魔法的一個層次 |
| transcript.whisperx[7123].start |
22159.37 |
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22161.37 |
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教育部呢 |
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22161.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].end |
22163.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7124].text |
也應該要定期的一個檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].start |
22163.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].end |
22165.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7125].text |
就學貸款申請資格 |
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22165.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7126].end |
22167.37 |
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還有他的家庭所得 |
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22167.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7127].end |
22169.37 |
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的一個標準 |
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22169.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].end |
22171.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7128].text |
並且要斟酌物價的一個 |
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22171.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].end |
22173.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7129].text |
變動積住成本還有 |
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22173.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].end |
22175.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7130].text |
家庭扶養一個 |
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22175.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7131].end |
22177.37 |
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負擔的一個調整 |
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22177.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].end |
22179.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7132].text |
就學貸款的一個制度能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].start |
22179.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].end |
22181.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7133].text |
回應到社會經濟 |
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22181.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].end |
22183.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7134].text |
的一個變化 |
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22183.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].end |
22185.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7135].text |
所以呢大學的學貸 |
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22185.37 |
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22187.37 |
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不是一般商業的一個貸款 |
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22187.37 |
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22189.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7137].text |
而是國家來協助 |
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22189.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].end |
22191.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7138].text |
協助學生完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].start |
22191.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].end |
22193.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7139].text |
高等教育的一個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].start |
22193.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].end |
22195.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7140].text |
一個制度學生呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].start |
22195.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].end |
22197.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7141].text |
善未進入殘還期 |
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22197.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].end |
22199.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7142].text |
以前由主管機關 |
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22199.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].end |
22201.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7143].text |
來負擔利息 |
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22201.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].end |
22203.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7144].text |
符合教育評審還有人才 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].start |
22203.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].end |
22205.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7145].text |
培育的本質我想讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].start |
22205.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].end |
22207.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7146].text |
學生能夠安心他就能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].start |
22207.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].end |
22209.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7147].text |
前逸以後來求學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].start |
22209.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].end |
22211.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7148].text |
這是我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].start |
22211.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].end |
22213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7149].text |
要給予學生的一個保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].start |
22213.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].end |
22215.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7150].text |
以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].start |
22226.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].end |
22228.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7151].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].start |
22228.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].end |
22230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7152].text |
原志委員要不要讓他們先回應你 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].start |
22230.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].end |
22232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7153].text |
再看著他們的回應再 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].start |
22232.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].end |
22234.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[7154].text |
再繼續說您的說法好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].start |
22234.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].end |
22236.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7155].text |
好來我們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].start |
22237.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].end |
22239.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7156].text |
趙委還有各位委員針對剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].start |
22239.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].end |
22241.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7157].text |
所提的幾項措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].start |
22241.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].end |
22243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7158].text |
裡頭那確實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].start |
22243.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].end |
22245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7159].text |
那個有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].start |
22245.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].end |
22247.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7160].text |
免學費的這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].start |
22247.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].end |
22249.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7161].text |
的基準的一個設定 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].start |
22249.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].end |
22251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7162].text |
確實會增加我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].start |
22251.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].end |
22253.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7163].text |
一個財政上面的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].start |
22253.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].end |
22255.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7164].text |
支出那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].start |
22255.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].end |
22257.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7165].text |
也請委員做審討 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].start |
22257.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].end |
22259.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7166].text |
針對其他像蔡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].start |
22259.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].end |
22261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7167].text |
蔡委員所提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].start |
22261.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].end |
22263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7168].text |
目前我們在學期間 |
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22263.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].end |
22265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7169].text |
貸款 |
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22265.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7170].end |
22267.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7170].text |
的人數大概是23萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].start |
22267.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].end |
22269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7171].text |
他的利息全部都已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].start |
22269.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].end |
22271.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7172].text |
由政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].start |
22271.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].end |
22273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7173].text |
來負擔那這個也是定在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].start |
22273.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].end |
22275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7174].text |
我們的就學辦法所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].start |
22275.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].end |
22277.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7175].text |
只要透過相關的就學 |
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22277.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].end |
22279.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7176].text |
貸款的辦法 |
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22279.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].end |
22281.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7177].text |
其實這些行政作為就可以達到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].start |
22281.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].end |
22283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7178].text |
跟委員提案所達成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].start |
22283.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].end |
22285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7179].text |
的目的所以剛才像 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].start |
22285.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].end |
22287.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7180].text |
私藥委員幾位委員所建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].start |
22287.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].end |
22289.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7181].text |
用規範性原則性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7182].start |
22289.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7182].end |
22291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7182].text |
文字再透過授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7183].start |
22291.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7183].end |
22293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7183].text |
辦法的方式來執行這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7184].start |
22293.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7184].end |
22295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7184].text |
可以及時的來回應整個社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].start |
22295.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].end |
22297.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7185].text |
的一個需求以上補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].start |
22299.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].end |
22301.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7186].text |
好那補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].start |
22302.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].end |
22304.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7187].text |
吳立華委員也有修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].start |
22304.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].end |
22306.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7188].text |
我們大學法35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].start |
22306.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].end |
22308.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[7189].text |
一併討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].start |
22309.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].end |
22311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7190].text |
跟張委員報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].start |
22311.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].end |
22313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7191].text |
就是說我再補充一塊就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].start |
22313.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].end |
22315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7192].text |
剛剛我們幾位委員提到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].start |
22315.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].end |
22317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7193].text |
其實這條修法有兩個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].start |
22317.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].end |
22319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7194].text |
一個就是有關就學貸款一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].start |
22319.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].end |
22321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7195].text |
就有關全免學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].start |
22321.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].end |
22323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7196].text |
就學貸款來講目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].start |
22323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].end |
22325.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7197].text |
委員提的版本有關於 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].start |
22325.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].end |
22327.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7198].text |
寬限期的延長以及 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].start |
22327.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].end |
22329.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7199].text |
貸款的學生在學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].start |
22329.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].end |
22331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7200].text |
的期間免利息 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].start |
22331.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].end |
22333.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7201].text |
報告蔡村仇委員剛剛提的這個都 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].start |
22333.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].end |
22335.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7202].text |
已經目前在五二七 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].start |
22335.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].end |
22337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7203].text |
之後就已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].start |
22337.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].end |
22339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7204].text |
那個已經推動了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].start |
22339.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].end |
22341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7205].text |
都推動了現在唯一的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].start |
22341.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].end |
22343.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7206].text |
還要希望保留給行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].start |
22343.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].end |
22345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7207].text |
斟酌是剛剛羅志祥 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].start |
22345.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].end |
22347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7208].text |
跟趙偉這邊提到的全面免 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].start |
22347.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].end |
22349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7209].text |
利息的部分雖然我們現在是調降 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].start |
22349.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].end |
22351.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7210].text |
一趴那羅委員趙偉這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].start |
22351.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].end |
22353.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7211].text |
是希望能夠在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].start |
22353.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].end |
22355.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7212].text |
是不是可以全免我們是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].start |
22355.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].end |
22357.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7213].text |
期待說是不是我們可以用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].start |
22357.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].end |
22359.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7214].text |
因為我們現在就學貸款已經有授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].start |
22359.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].end |
22361.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7215].text |
辦法了讓我們行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].start |
22361.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].end |
22363.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7216].text |
可以依照學生的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].start |
22363.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].end |
22365.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7217].text |
一個需求跟財政狀況我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].start |
22365.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].end |
22367.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7218].text |
做滾動的調整我想這第一個說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].start |
22367.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].end |
22369.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7219].text |
第二個說明就是免 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].start |
22369.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].end |
22371.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7220].text |
那學費這一塊包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].start |
22371.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].end |
22373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7221].text |
柯志恩委員跟趙偉這邊提的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].start |
22373.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].end |
22375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7222].text |
我們是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].start |
22375.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].end |
22377.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7223].text |
用第三項剛剛其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].start |
22377.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].end |
22379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7224].text |
有委員也提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].start |
22379.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].end |
22381.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7225].text |
是不是一樣也像就學貸款 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].start |
22381.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].end |
22383.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7226].text |
一樣用一個授權辦法讓我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].start |
22383.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].end |
22385.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7227].text |
去參酌像趙偉提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].start |
22385.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].end |
22387.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7228].text |
的按照家庭收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].start |
22387.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].end |
22389.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7229].text |
五等份的後百分之二十 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].start |
22389.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].end |
22391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7230].text |
我們可以參考那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].start |
22391.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].end |
22393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7231].text |
來定一些有關於學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].start |
22393.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].end |
22395.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7232].text |
所以減免要全免或是減免多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].start |
22395.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].end |
22397.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7233].text |
用這個授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].start |
22397.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].end |
22399.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7234].text |
辦法不能讓教育部一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].start |
22399.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].end |
22401.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7235].text |
有一些斟酌的空間 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].start |
22401.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].end |
22403.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7236].text |
依照我們的時事變更來做處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].start |
22403.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].end |
22405.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7237].text |
所以如果可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].start |
22405.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].end |
22407.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7238].text |
我們是期待說委員是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].start |
22407.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].end |
22409.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7239].text |
支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].start |
22409.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].end |
22411.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7240].text |
那個行政部門以這樣的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].start |
22411.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].end |
22413.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7241].text |
來照顧學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].start |
22413.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].end |
22415.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[7242].text |
以上報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].start |
22415.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].end |
22417.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[7243].text |
好,一人之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].start |
22418.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].end |
22420.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[7244].text |
好,那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].start |
22420.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].end |
22421.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7245].text |
剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].start |
22421.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].end |
22423.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7246].text |
市長其實有講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].start |
22423.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].end |
22425.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7247].text |
就是有關於免除學費跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].start |
22425.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].end |
22427.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7248].text |
學貸利息減免的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].start |
22427.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].end |
22429.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7249].text |
其實行政機關都要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].start |
22429.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].end |
22431.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7250].text |
只是現在差別是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].start |
22431.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].end |
22433.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7251].text |
做多做少的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].start |
22433.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].end |
22435.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7252].text |
做多做少牽涉到預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].start |
22435.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].end |
22437.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7253].text |
我是覺得如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].start |
22437.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].end |
22439.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7254].text |
行政機關也想要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].start |
22439.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].end |
22441.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7255].text |
因為現在我們整個政府的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].start |
22441.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].end |
22443.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7256].text |
對於教育的方向是教育平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].start |
22443.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].end |
22445.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7257].text |
所以才會有補助學費這一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].start |
22445.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].end |
22447.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7258].text |
既然要做其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].start |
22447.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].end |
22449.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7259].text |
我們把它入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].start |
22449.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].end |
22451.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7260].text |
在大學法裡面做明定的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].start |
22451.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].end |
22453.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7261].text |
它更能夠彰顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].start |
22453.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].end |
22455.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7262].text |
我們現在政府想要做教育平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].start |
22455.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].end |
22457.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7263].text |
這件事情,所以我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].start |
22458.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].end |
22461.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7264].text |
這個次長講的其實跟我們要推的法案沒有衝突 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].start |
22461.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].end |
22463.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7265].text |
把它入法,其實我是覺得更 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].start |
22463.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].end |
22466.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7266].text |
代表我們對這個事情更加重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].start |
22466.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].end |
22468.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7267].text |
那第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].start |
22467.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].end |
22469.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7268].text |
做多做少就牽涉到預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].start |
22469.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].end |
22471.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7269].text |
那其實預算如果夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].start |
22471.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].end |
22473.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7270].text |
當然我們是希望給學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].start |
22473.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].end |
22475.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7271].text |
更好的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].start |
22475.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].end |
22477.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7272].text |
一定就是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].start |
22477.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].end |
22479.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7273].text |
不要讓學生畢業就背一堆學貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].start |
22479.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].end |
22481.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7274].text |
然後背債出社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].start |
22481.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].end |
22483.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7275].text |
其實壓力蠻大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].start |
22483.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].end |
22485.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7276].text |
那預算的部分其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].start |
22485.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].end |
22487.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7277].text |
我 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].start |
22487.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].end |
22489.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7278].text |
呼應一下剛剛羅志祥委員所講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].start |
22489.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].end |
22491.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7279].text |
常常就是我們在推東西的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].start |
22491.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].end |
22493.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7280].text |
都會說沒有預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].start |
22493.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].end |
22495.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7281].text |
像前一段時間國民黨團 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].start |
22495.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].end |
22497.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7282].text |
也有召開一個記者會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].start |
22497.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].end |
22499.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7283].text |
說我們想要推那個未來帳戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].start |
22499.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].end |
22501.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7284].text |
去照顧年輕的爸媽 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].start |
22501.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].end |
22503.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[7285].text |
0到15歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].start |
22504.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].end |
22506.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7286].text |
一個月5000塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].start |
22506.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].end |
22508.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7287].text |
0到6月再加強托育 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].start |
22508.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].end |
22510.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7288].text |
然後托育一年好像4萬塊等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].start |
22510.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].end |
22512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7289].text |
那個時候民進黨就罵我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].start |
22512.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].end |
22514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7290].text |
就是說財政機率呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].start |
22514.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].end |
22516.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7291].text |
錢在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].start |
22516.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].end |
22518.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7292].text |
難道錢花了就能解決燒紙化的問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].start |
22518.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].end |
22520.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7293].text |
就一直在批評 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].start |
22520.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].end |
22522.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7294].text |
結果每兩天賴清德總統就宣布了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].start |
22522.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].end |
22524.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7295].text |
0到18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].start |
22524.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].end |
22526.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7296].text |
一個月5000塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].start |
22526.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].end |
22528.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7297].text |
花的錢是差不多,而且錢又出現了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].start |
22528.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].end |
22530.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7298].text |
然後就可以解決燒紙化的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].start |
22530.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].end |
22532.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7299].text |
所以有時候我們覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].start |
22532.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].end |
22534.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7300].text |
為什麼同樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].start |
22534.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].end |
22536.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7301].text |
國民黨自來黨提,就問題一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].start |
22536.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].end |
22538.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7302].text |
執政黨提,一樣的東西就沒問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].start |
22538.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].end |
22540.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7303].text |
所以我還是希望說我們可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].start |
22542.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].end |
22544.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7304].text |
仔細的去思考說這個事情該不該做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].start |
22544.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].end |
22546.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7305].text |
如果該做的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].start |
22546.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].end |
22548.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7306].text |
我相信行政部門就能夠找到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].start |
22548.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].end |
22550.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7307].text |
預算嘛,那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].start |
22550.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].end |
22552.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7308].text |
也可以請教育部去跟行政院去爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].start |
22552.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].end |
22554.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7309].text |
該做我們就做啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].start |
22554.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].end |
22556.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[7310].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].start |
22555.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].end |
22557.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[7311].text |
好,羅思祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].start |
22557.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].end |
22559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7312].text |
我也是呼應一下葉元之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].start |
22559.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].end |
22561.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7313].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].start |
22561.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].end |
22563.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7314].text |
有時候在野黨確實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].start |
22563.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].end |
22565.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7315].text |
在接觸很多民生議題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].start |
22565.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].end |
22567.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7316].text |
我們會有比執政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].start |
22567.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].end |
22569.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7317].text |
可能有更多的一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].start |
22569.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].end |
22571.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7318].text |
前瞻性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].start |
22571.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].end |
22573.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7319].text |
所以大家可以看到像燒紙化問題的嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].start |
22573.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].end |
22575.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7320].text |
也是在野黨我們不斷去提出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].start |
22575.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].end |
22577.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7321].text |
其實今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].start |
22577.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].end |
22579.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7322].text |
嚴格來講,今天包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].start |
22579.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].end |
22581.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7323].text |
學貸跟學費的減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].start |
22581.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].end |
22583.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7324].text |
當你能夠去減輕 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].start |
22583.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].end |
22585.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7325].text |
年輕人出社會的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].start |
22585.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].end |
22587.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7326].text |
其實也是呼應了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].start |
22587.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].end |
22589.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7327].text |
賴清德總統後來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].start |
22589.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].end |
22591.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7328].text |
所掖式的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].start |
22591.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].end |
22593.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7329].text |
他要來去挽救 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].start |
22593.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].end |
22595.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7330].text |
燒紙化危機的,他是正相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].start |
22595.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].end |
22597.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7331].text |
那為什麼剛剛特別講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].start |
22597.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].end |
22599.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7332].text |
我覺得在場的官員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].start |
22599.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].end |
22601.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7333].text |
或執政黨委員也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7334].start |
22601.93 |
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其實可以稍微 |
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22603.93 |
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22605.93 |
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稍微記取一下過去發生的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[7336].start |
22605.93 |
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那每次在野黨提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7337].start |
22607.93 |
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很多前瞻性的想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7338].start |
22609.93 |
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那都是第一時間先用財政預算 |
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先用不要立法 |
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22615.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7340].text |
先用各種的程序理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].start |
22615.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].end |
22617.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7341].text |
來開始攻擊、批評或是阻擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[7342].start |
22617.93 |
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22619.93 |
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可是等到最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7343].start |
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22621.93 |
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就發現說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].start |
22621.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].end |
22623.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7344].text |
賴總統自己都從善如流 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].start |
22623.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7345].end |
22625.93 |
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我們提了很多政見、政策 |
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22625.93 |
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22627.93 |
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他都採用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].start |
22627.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].end |
22629.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7347].text |
或是我們被罵過以後的政見 |
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22629.93 |
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22631.93 |
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等到真的通過,前面我講環歲雲、環家鳴 |
| transcript.whisperx[7349].start |
22631.93 |
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22633.93 |
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都是一樣的事情 |
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22633.93 |
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22635.93 |
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我最後就看到 |
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22635.93 |
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22637.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7351].text |
執政黨委員歡欣鼓舞 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].start |
22637.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7352].end |
22639.93 |
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簡直是在放鞭炮 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].start |
22639.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7353].end |
22641.93 |
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一樣在慶祝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].start |
22641.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].end |
22643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7354].text |
那同樣今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].start |
22643.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].end |
22645.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7355].text |
從年輕人的角度,我們當然知道財政部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7356].start |
22645.93 |
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22647.93 |
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會有一些預算要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].start |
22647.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].end |
22649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7357].text |
必須要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].start |
22649.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].end |
22651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7358].text |
可是大家有沒有想過,今天政府我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].start |
22651.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].end |
22653.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7359].text |
財政的膨脹的速度 |
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22653.93 |
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22655.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7360].text |
現在膨脹的速度已經 |
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22655.93 |
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22657.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7361].text |
一年的預算是3兆,還不含特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].start |
22657.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].end |
22659.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7362].text |
那過去已經是將近 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].start |
22659.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].end |
22661.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7363].text |
快要成長了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].start |
22661.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].end |
22663.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7364].text |
40%、50%都有以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].start |
22663.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].end |
22665.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7365].text |
那這種情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].start |
22665.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].end |
22667.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7366].text |
難道不能夠為我們的年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].start |
22667.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].end |
22669.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7367].text |
多增加一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].start |
22669.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].end |
22671.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7368].text |
那這個什麼方式,這是我們今天可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].start |
22671.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].end |
22673.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7369].text |
可是我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].start |
22673.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].end |
22675.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7370].text |
贊成剛剛我們葉原子委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].start |
22675.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].end |
22677.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7371].text |
講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].start |
22677.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].end |
22679.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7372].text |
今天修進法律,它其實會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].start |
22679.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].end |
22681.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7373].text |
增加我們行政機關來去 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].start |
22681.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].end |
22683.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7374].text |
執行的積極性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].start |
22683.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].end |
22685.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7375].text |
那這積極性,這是第一個重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].start |
22685.93 |
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22687.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7376].text |
那第二個重點是 |
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22687.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].end |
22689.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7377].text |
它也會讓我們大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].start |
22689.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].end |
22691.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7378].text |
我們政府、立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].start |
22691.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].end |
22693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7379].text |
跟我們的行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].start |
22693.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].end |
22695.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7380].text |
重視今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].start |
22695.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].end |
22697.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7381].text |
年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].start |
22697.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].end |
22699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7382].text |
社會負擔問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].start |
22699.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].end |
22701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7383].text |
所以這個它就有不只是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].start |
22701.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].end |
22703.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7384].text |
在法律、在所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].start |
22703.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].end |
22705.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7385].text |
政策推動上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].start |
22705.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].end |
22707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7386].text |
階勢的積極性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].start |
22707.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].end |
22709.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7387].text |
它同時也有所謂的宣示性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].start |
22709.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].end |
22711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7388].text |
那這是為什麼今天我們要提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].start |
22711.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].end |
22713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7389].text |
這個學代三法,希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].start |
22713.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].end |
22715.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7390].text |
能夠來減輕年輕人負擔的一個初衷 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].start |
22715.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].end |
22717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7391].text |
那我真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].start |
22717.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].end |
22719.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7392].text |
真誠的希望,不要又是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].start |
22719.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].end |
22721.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7393].text |
變成以前的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].start |
22721.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].end |
22723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7394].text |
那很多理由到最後發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].start |
22723.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].end |
22725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7395].text |
都不存在,最後一樣是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].start |
22725.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].end |
22727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7396].text |
來跟進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].start |
22727.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].end |
22729.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7397].text |
那當然晚跟進總比 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].start |
22729.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].end |
22731.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7398].text |
從頭到尾不跟進好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].start |
22731.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].end |
22733.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7399].text |
所以就算是晚跟進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].start |
22733.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].end |
22735.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7400].text |
那我們也是一樣保持肯定 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].start |
22735.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].end |
22737.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7401].text |
所以這是以上我覺得還是要補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].start |
22737.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].end |
22739.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7402].text |
一下葉原志委員所說的,以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].start |
22742.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].end |
22744.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7403].text |
是不是因為大家都發言一輪 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].start |
22744.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].end |
22746.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7404].text |
讓我先發言再發言第二輪好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].start |
22747.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].end |
22749.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7405].text |
那我想這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].start |
22749.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].end |
22751.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7406].text |
我們之前也有做詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].start |
22751.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].end |
22753.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7407].text |
那我印象也很深刻,當時在討論五等份的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].start |
22753.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].end |
22755.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7408].text |
後二十 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].start |
22755.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].end |
22757.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7409].text |
趴,這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].start |
22757.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].end |
22759.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7410].text |
當時其實教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].start |
22759.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].end |
22761.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7411].text |
並沒有很直接的回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].start |
22761.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].end |
22763.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7412].text |
這個部分,所以剛剛市長的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].start |
22763.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].end |
22765.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7413].text |
覺得採用五等份的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].start |
22765.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].end |
22767.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7414].text |
最低百分之二十是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].start |
22767.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].end |
22769.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7415].text |
比較,這個框架內的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].start |
22769.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].end |
22771.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7416].text |
同學比較可以接受的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].start |
22773.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].end |
22775.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7417].text |
委員報告就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].start |
22775.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].end |
22777.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7418].text |
因為如果我們把 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].start |
22777.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].end |
22779.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7419].text |
這樣的標準寫在法裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].start |
22779.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].end |
22781.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7420].text |
他們有兩個,對,但是你們大概也會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].start |
22781.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].end |
22783.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7421].text |
我們可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].start |
22783.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].end |
22785.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7422].text |
這樣子的五等份的分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].start |
22785.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].end |
22787.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7423].text |
請向這個部分,這樣是不是可以放在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].start |
22787.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].end |
22789.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7424].text |
我們如果用一些授權的原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].start |
22789.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].end |
22791.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7425].text |
但是我們立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].start |
22791.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].end |
22793.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7426].text |
去寫說我們可以參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].start |
22793.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].end |
22795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7427].text |
收支所的或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].start |
22795.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].end |
22797.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7428].text |
家庭所的五等份 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].start |
22797.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].end |
22799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7429].text |
沒關係,我大概知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].start |
22799.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].end |
22801.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7430].text |
因為我原本的說法就是說你們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].start |
22801.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].end |
22803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7431].text |
幫助大學生的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].start |
22803.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].end |
22805.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7432].text |
所分的這個項目 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].start |
22805.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].end |
22807.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[7433].text |
我認為不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].start |
22807.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].end |
22809.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7434].text |
紮實,所以當時我們提出了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].start |
22809.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].end |
22811.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7435].text |
用五等份的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].start |
22811.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].end |
22813.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7436].text |
所以今天我是特別 |
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22813.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].end |
22815.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7437].text |
希望能夠入法,但 |
| transcript.whisperx[7438].start |
22815.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7438].end |
22817.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7438].text |
你是正面回應說會參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[7439].start |
22817.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7439].end |
22819.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7439].text |
這個方向,但是我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7440].start |
22819.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7440].end |
22821.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7440].text |
擔憂,但沒關係,至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[7441].start |
22821.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7441].end |
22823.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7441].text |
有開始有共識,有交集 |
| transcript.whisperx[7442].start |
22823.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7442].end |
22825.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7442].text |
就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7443].start |
22825.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7443].end |
22827.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7443].text |
五等份,後二十趴 |
| transcript.whisperx[7444].start |
22827.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7444].end |
22829.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7444].text |
那也希望說後續能夠真正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7445].start |
22829.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7445].end |
22831.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7445].text |
落實到學童他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7446].start |
22831.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7446].end |
22833.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7446].text |
還童他們,對不起,大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7447].start |
22833.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7447].end |
22835.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7447].text |
已經不是學童,大學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7448].start |
22835.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7448].end |
22837.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7448].text |
他們的需求跟他們的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[7449].start |
22837.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7449].end |
22839.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7449].text |
所以我們是真的遇到蠻多 |
| transcript.whisperx[7450].start |
22839.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7450].end |
22841.07 |
| transcript.whisperx[7450].text |
其實我坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[7451].start |
22841.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7451].end |
22843.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7451].text |
也不是執政黨委員不認真 |
| transcript.whisperx[7452].start |
22843.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7452].end |
22845.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[7452].text |
是有時候他們也有執政黨的包袱 |
| transcript.whisperx[7453].start |
22847.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7453].end |
22849.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7453].text |
所以有一些他沒辦法通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7454].start |
22849.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7454].end |
22851.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7454].text |
沒辦法幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[7455].start |
22851.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7455].end |
22853.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7455].text |
同學的時候他有他的困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[7456].start |
22853.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7456].end |
22855.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7456].text |
那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7457].start |
22855.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7457].end |
22857.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7457].text |
許多的學生團體他就跑來拜託我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7458].start |
22857.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7458].end |
22859.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7458].text |
跑來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7459].start |
22859.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7459].end |
22861.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7459].text |
一直陳情,一直陳情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7460].start |
22861.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7460].end |
22863.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7460].text |
但是我聽說私底下也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7461].start |
22863.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7461].end |
22865.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7461].text |
學生團體在講,有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7462].start |
22865.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7462].end |
22867.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[7462].text |
執政黨委員也認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[7463].start |
22867.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7463].end |
22869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7463].text |
好,但是我們希望能夠把他的事情促成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7464].start |
22869.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7464].end |
22871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7464].text |
那沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[7465].start |
22871.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7465].end |
22873.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7465].text |
今天所有的委員各自有各自的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7466].start |
22873.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7466].end |
22875.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7466].text |
但利益良善,大家都希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7467].start |
22875.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7467].end |
22877.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7467].text |
是為了孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7468].start |
22877.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7468].end |
22879.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7468].text |
那是不是我就 |
| transcript.whisperx[7469].start |
22879.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7469].end |
22881.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7469].text |
因為剛剛有委員在講,我們是不是就 |
| transcript.whisperx[7470].start |
22881.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7470].end |
22883.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7470].text |
保留一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7471].start |
22883.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7471].end |
22885.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7471].text |
送院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7472].start |
22885.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7472].end |
22887.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[7472].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7473].start |
22886.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7473].end |
22888.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7473].text |
吳教委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7474].start |
22888.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7474].end |
22890.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7474].text |
好,謝謝昭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7475].start |
22890.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7475].end |
22892.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7475].text |
這個部分我想我們大家再釐清一下下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7476].start |
22894.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7476].end |
22896.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7476].text |
如果說昭偉可以同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[7477].start |
22897.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7477].end |
22899.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[7477].text |
把剛剛您所說的五等分的那個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7478].start |
22901.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7478].end |
22903.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7478].text |
用教育部建議的修正條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7479].start |
22903.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7479].end |
22905.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7479].text |
條文本文是用原則性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7480].start |
22905.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7480].end |
22907.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7480].text |
概括性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7481].start |
22907.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7481].end |
22909.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7481].text |
修法第三項的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7482].start |
22909.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7482].end |
22911.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7482].text |
但是把昭偉還有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7483].start |
22911.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7483].end |
22913.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7483].text |
像葉任志委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7484].start |
22913.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7484].end |
22915.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7484].text |
五等分的罪貌 |
| transcript.whisperx[7485].start |
22915.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7485].end |
22917.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7485].text |
20%的擴大照顧的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7486].start |
22917.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7486].end |
22921.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7486].text |
放在第35條的立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7487].start |
22921.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7487].end |
22923.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7487].text |
那也是一個相當 |
| transcript.whisperx[7488].start |
22923.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7488].end |
22925.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7488].text |
高效力的來擇程 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].start |
22925.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].end |
22927.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7489].text |
行政部門來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7490].start |
22927.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7490].end |
22929.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7490].text |
來落實啦,我覺得如果可以的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7491].start |
22929.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7491].end |
22931.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7491].text |
這個部分大家有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7492].start |
22931.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7492].end |
22933.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7492].text |
那我覺得今天也許 |
| transcript.whisperx[7493].start |
22933.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7493].end |
22935.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7493].text |
這一條可以不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7494].start |
22935.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7494].end |
22937.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7494].text |
送學商,可以直接 |
| transcript.whisperx[7495].start |
22937.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7495].end |
22939.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7495].text |
達成一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7496].start |
22939.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7496].end |
22941.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7496].text |
那我覺得審條文審法案就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7497].start |
22941.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7497].end |
22943.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7497].text |
我們一直在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7498].start |
22943.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7498].end |
22945.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7498].text |
立法委員可以提 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].start |
22945.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].end |
22947.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7499].text |
我們有質詢權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7500].start |
22947.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7500].end |
22949.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[7500].text |
我們可以審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[7501].start |
22949.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7501].end |
22951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7501].text |
我們可以透過各種提案的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7502].start |
22951.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7502].end |
22953.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7502].text |
去跟行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7503].start |
22953.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7503].end |
22955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7503].text |
對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].start |
22955.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].end |
22957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7504].text |
讓行政部門把好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].start |
22957.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].end |
22959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7505].text |
政策擴大照顧的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].start |
22959.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].end |
22961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7506].text |
福祉能夠落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].start |
22961.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].end |
22963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7507].text |
但是即便是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].start |
22963.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].end |
22965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7508].text |
提出修法的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].start |
22965.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].end |
22967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7509].text |
也是應當跟行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].start |
22967.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].end |
22969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7510].text |
共同研商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].start |
22969.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].end |
22971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7511].text |
在裁員可行的方式之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].start |
22971.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].end |
22973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7512].text |
那大家一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].start |
22973.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].end |
22975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7513].text |
推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].start |
22975.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].end |
22977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7514].text |
那顯然如果說在行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].start |
22977.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].end |
22979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7515].text |
我們認為現有的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].start |
22979.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].end |
22981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7516].text |
真的是還需要商著的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].start |
22981.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].end |
22983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7517].text |
那強制入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].start |
22983.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].end |
22985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7518].text |
我想這個就真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].start |
22985.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].end |
22987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7519].text |
大家還需要一點時間來匯聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].start |
22987.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].end |
22989.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7520].text |
那至少在大學法35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].start |
22989.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].end |
22991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7521].text |
的這一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].start |
22991.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].end |
22993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7522].text |
剛剛你聽到羅家維所提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].start |
22993.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].end |
22995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7523].text |
對於參考主計總處 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].start |
22995.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].end |
22997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7524].text |
公告家庭收支調查報告之 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].start |
22997.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].end |
22999.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[7525].text |
家庭所得五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].start |
23000.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].end |
23002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7526].text |
的五等分為的最末 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].start |
23002.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].end |
23004.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7527].text |
20%的部分能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].start |
23004.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].end |
23006.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7528].text |
來用立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].start |
23006.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].end |
23008.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7529].text |
責成行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].start |
23008.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].end |
23010.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7530].text |
未來來進行處理跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].start |
23010.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].end |
23012.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7531].text |
調配然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].start |
23012.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].end |
23014.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7532].text |
甚至可以因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].start |
23014.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].end |
23016.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7533].text |
其他突發的經濟不利的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].start |
23016.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].end |
23018.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7534].text |
擴大保障學生的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].start |
23018.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].end |
23020.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7535].text |
我是想在主席才是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].start |
23020.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].end |
23022.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7536].text |
要交付協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].start |
23022.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].end |
23024.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7537].text |
保留之前再爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].start |
23024.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].end |
23026.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7538].text |
一下如果能夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].start |
23026.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].end |
23028.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7539].text |
修正條文能不能夠參照 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].start |
23028.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].end |
23030.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7540].text |
教育部所提的這個方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].start |
23030.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].end |
23032.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7541].text |
我再爭取一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].start |
23032.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].end |
23034.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[7542].text |
那這樣今天大家應當有一些比較正面的進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].start |
23038.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].end |
23040.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[7543].text |
好還有委員有意見嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].start |
23041.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].end |
23043.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[7544].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].start |
23042.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].end |
23044.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7545].text |
那我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].start |
23044.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].end |
23046.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7546].text |
知識體大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].start |
23046.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].end |
23048.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7547].text |
這件事情趁有共識我還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].start |
23048.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].end |
23050.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7548].text |
能夠趁共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].start |
23050.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].end |
23052.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7549].text |
繼續追擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].start |
23052.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].end |
23054.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7550].text |
為學生的福利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].start |
23054.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].end |
23056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7551].text |
然後能夠最大化 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].start |
23056.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].end |
23058.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[7552].text |
所以有一些更細節的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].start |
23060.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].end |
23062.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7553].text |
我覺得今天還需要更多的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].start |
23062.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7554].end |
23064.23 |
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我們再想想 |
| transcript.whisperx[7555].start |
23064.23 |
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23066.23 |
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所以就保留吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].start |
23066.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].end |
23068.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[7556].text |
送院會協商謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].start |
23069.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].end |
23071.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7557].text |
這是蠻可惜的主席不再思考一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].start |
23071.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].end |
23073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7558].text |
我們都講成這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].start |
23073.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].end |
23075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7559].text |
我們都有共識了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].start |
23075.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].end |
23077.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7560].text |
而且是參採您的意見的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].start |
23077.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7561].end |
23079.63 |
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啊你又不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].start |
23079.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].end |
23081.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7562].text |
啊從頭我們的意見你都覺得不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].start |
23081.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].end |
23083.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7563].text |
我再商量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].start |
23083.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].end |
23085.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7564].text |
不會不會說他不要 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].start |
23085.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].end |
23087.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7565].text |
所以我也要參考你們的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].start |
23087.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].end |
23089.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7566].text |
我不能夠自己決定一定要過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].start |
23089.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7567].end |
23091.63 |
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所以就是院會保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].start |
23091.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].end |
23093.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7568].text |
那因為我是覺得要寫在左邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].start |
23093.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].end |
23095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7569].text |
您是覺得要寫在右邊那就不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].start |
23095.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].end |
23097.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7570].text |
左邊是寫在法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].start |
23097.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].end |
23099.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7571].text |
行政部門剛剛也說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].start |
23099.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].end |
23103.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7572].text |
剛剛是您的發言說說明也可以參採不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].start |
23103.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].end |
23105.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7573].text |
不是我是先詢問他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].start |
23105.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].end |
23107.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7574].text |
他是不是可以參採 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].start |
23107.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].end |
23109.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[7575].text |
那趁有共識我更覺得可以立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].start |
23110.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].end |
23112.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[7576].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].start |
23111.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].end |
23115.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7577].text |
你也公司法剛剛的說法不敢辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].start |
23115.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].end |
23117.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7578].text |
你剛剛說的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].start |
23117.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].end |
23119.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7579].text |
你剛剛說的不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].start |
23119.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].end |
23121.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7580].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].start |
23121.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].end |
23123.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7581].text |
你跟剛剛說的不太一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].start |
23123.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].end |
23125.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7582].text |
我是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].start |
23125.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].end |
23127.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7583].text |
對對對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].start |
23127.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].end |
23129.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7584].text |
好吧那保留大概就 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].start |
23130.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].end |
23132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7585].text |
好休息三分鐘教育部再好好跟剛剛那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].start |
23132.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].end |
23134.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7586].text |
趙偉他本來說的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].start |
23134.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].end |
23136.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[7587].text |
可以再溝通一下好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].start |
23270.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].end |
23272.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7588].text |
好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].start |
23285.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].end |
23287.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[7589].text |
一個立法說明一個附帶 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].start |
23289.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].end |
23291.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7590].text |
好我們現在繼續開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].start |
23291.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].end |
23293.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7591].text |
還在休息時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].start |
23294.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].end |
23296.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7592].text |
直接開會好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].start |
23296.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].end |
23298.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7593].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].start |
23301.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].end |
23303.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7594].text |
一起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].start |
23305.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].end |
23307.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7595].text |
所以你們現在是又在提出修正動議嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].start |
23307.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].end |
23309.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7596].text |
一個是專科學校法一個是大學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].start |
23309.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].end |
23311.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7597].text |
這個是附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].start |
23311.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].end |
23313.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7598].text |
是建議說是不是用附帶決議的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].start |
23313.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].end |
23315.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7599].text |
再加上立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].start |
23315.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].end |
23317.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7600].text |
那這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].start |
23317.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].end |
23319.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7601].text |
先處理35條大學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].start |
23319.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].end |
23321.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7602].text |
那因為剛剛郭一群委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].start |
23321.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].end |
23323.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[7603].text |
又有提出了修正附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].start |
23326.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].end |
23328.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[7604].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].start |
23327.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].end |
23329.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7605].text |
就是新增的附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].start |
23329.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].end |
23331.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7606].text |
新增的新增的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].start |
23331.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].end |
23333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7607].text |
新增的附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].start |
23333.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].end |
23335.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7608].text |
跟趙偉報告一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].start |
23335.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].end |
23337.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7609].text |
我們現在35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].start |
23337.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].end |
23339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7610].text |
除了剛剛有建議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].start |
23339.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].end |
23341.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7611].text |
我們在立法說明加上說會參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].start |
23341.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].end |
23343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7612].text |
家庭物等費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].start |
23343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].end |
23345.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7613].text |
跟那個累積稅率以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].start |
23345.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].end |
23347.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7614].text |
我們是不是另外再有個附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].start |
23347.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].end |
23349.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7615].text |
來課則我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].start |
23349.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].end |
23351.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7616].text |
科與行政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].start |
23351.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].end |
23353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7617].text |
應該要依照這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].start |
23353.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].end |
23355.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7618].text |
再來做審酌那我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].start |
23355.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].end |
23357.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7619].text |
未來的一些學費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].start |
23357.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].end |
23359.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7620].text |
就會更有依據朝委我們建議的方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].start |
23359.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].end |
23361.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7621].text |
當然我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].start |
23361.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].end |
23363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7622].text |
第35條調文修正草案的附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].start |
23363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].end |
23365.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7623].text |
還是要調文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].start |
23365.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].end |
23367.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7624].text |
有確定逐條通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].start |
23367.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].end |
23369.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7625].text |
才有附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].start |
23369.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].end |
23371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7626].text |
那也看到我們現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].start |
23371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].end |
23373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7627].text |
所提的附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].start |
23373.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].end |
23375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7628].text |
那因為剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].start |
23375.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].end |
23377.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7629].text |
休息的時候有稍微在討論一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].start |
23377.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].end |
23379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7630].text |
那也要跟大家特別報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].start |
23379.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].end |
23381.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7631].text |
因為我想這個部分還是要在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].start |
23381.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].end |
23383.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7632].text |
跟更多的委員達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].start |
23383.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].end |
23385.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[7633].text |
好我想這個知識體大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].start |
23385.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].end |
23387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7634].text |
不是我們現在可以馬上決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].start |
23387.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].end |
23389.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7635].text |
那我想我們還是政黨協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].start |
23389.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].end |
23391.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7636].text |
再處理謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].start |
23391.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].end |
23393.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7637].text |
那是不是就保留送約會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].start |
23393.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].end |
23395.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7638].text |
等一下主席再商量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].start |
23397.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].end |
23399.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7639].text |
我們在場的委員有幾位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].start |
23400.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].end |
23402.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7640].text |
我們都努力認真在這裡審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].start |
23402.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].end |
23404.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7641].text |
然後我們講完 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].start |
23404.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].end |
23406.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7642].text |
然後你都說還要跟更多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].start |
23406.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].end |
23408.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7643].text |
那我們在場的委員的意見你都不參差一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].start |
23408.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].end |
23410.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7644].text |
而且剛剛教育部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].start |
23410.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].end |
23412.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7645].text |
不管是修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].start |
23412.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].end |
23414.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7646].text |
然後入這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].start |
23414.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].end |
23416.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7647].text |
說證說明的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].start |
23416.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].end |
23418.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[7648].text |
或者是1加1再補強一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].start |
23419.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].end |
23423.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[7649].text |
附帶決議都是參採了主席您的建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].start |
23424.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].end |
23426.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[7650].text |
所以我們其實都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].start |
23428 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].end |
23430 |
| transcript.whisperx[7651].text |
我們都支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].start |
23430 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].end |
23432 |
| transcript.whisperx[7652].text |
我們都支持您這邊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].start |
23432 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].end |
23434 |
| transcript.whisperx[7653].text |
的原則性的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].start |
23434 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].end |
23436 |
| transcript.whisperx[7654].text |
大家難得有這個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].start |
23436 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].end |
23438 |
| transcript.whisperx[7655].text |
所以我一再都強調說執政黨委員不是不做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].start |
23438 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].end |
23440 |
| transcript.whisperx[7656].text |
他們都是很不合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].start |
23440 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].end |
23442 |
| transcript.whisperx[7657].text |
對不起這句話講真的不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].start |
23442 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].end |
23444 |
| transcript.whisperx[7658].text |
什麼叫執政黨不做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].start |
23444 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].end |
23446 |
| transcript.whisperx[7659].text |
對不起我受回 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].start |
23446 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].end |
23448 |
| transcript.whisperx[7660].text |
我們都很認真在共同討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].start |
23448 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].end |
23450 |
| transcript.whisperx[7661].text |
那也有幫忙協助處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].start |
23450 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].end |
23452 |
| transcript.whisperx[7662].text |
是啊所以如果能夠有這個好的共識的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].start |
23452 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].end |
23454 |
| transcript.whisperx[7663].text |
我想跟您解釋不是我們不附議 |
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23454 |
| transcript.whisperx[7664].end |
23456 |
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那我們現在可以決定嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].start |
23456 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].end |
23458 |
| transcript.whisperx[7665].text |
我們才跟著不附議才沒有進來 |
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23458 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].end |
23460 |
| transcript.whisperx[7666].text |
就請你不要誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].start |
23460 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].end |
23462 |
| transcript.whisperx[7667].text |
那個法案沒關係啊我們已經坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].start |
23462 |
| transcript.whisperx[7668].end |
23464 |
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就是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].start |
23464 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].end |
23466 |
| transcript.whisperx[7669].text |
但是你們的修正動議很豐富 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].start |
23466 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].end |
23468 |
| transcript.whisperx[7670].text |
就是在幫忙發聲嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].start |
23468 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].end |
23470 |
| transcript.whisperx[7671].text |
所以那一段我們已經都用修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].start |
23470 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].end |
23472 |
| transcript.whisperx[7672].text |
我們已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].start |
23472.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].end |
23474.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[7673].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].start |
23474.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].end |
23476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7674].text |
反正就已經在進入條文了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].start |
23476.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].end |
23478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7675].text |
前情不用再提要了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].start |
23478.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].end |
23480.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7676].text |
OKOKOK |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].start |
23480.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].end |
23482.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[7677].text |
參賽您的建議可不可以就這樣過 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].start |
23483.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].end |
23485.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7678].text |
真的真的真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].start |
23485.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].end |
23487.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7679].text |
其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].start |
23486.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].end |
23488.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7680].text |
我們尊重您的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].start |
23488.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].end |
23490.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7681].text |
我只能講說真的不是我一個人能決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].start |
23490.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].end |
23492.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7682].text |
所以這個部分還請委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].start |
23492.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].end |
23494.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7683].text |
我們在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].start |
23494.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].end |
23496.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7684].text |
那因為小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].start |
23496.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].end |
23498.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[7685].text |
對不起大學生的這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].start |
23500.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].end |
23502.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7686].text |
知識體大 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].start |
23502.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].end |
23504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7687].text |
然後我想很多的團體一直在特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].start |
23504.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].end |
23506.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7688].text |
給予很多委員的期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].start |
23506.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].end |
23508.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7689].text |
所以這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].start |
23508.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].end |
23510.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7690].text |
那這樣委員會的討論是不是大家就是坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].start |
23510.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].end |
23512.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7691].text |
那沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].start |
23512.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].end |
23514.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7692].text |
我們先請羅志祥委員他有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].start |
23514.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].end |
23516.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7693].text |
首先第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].start |
23516.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].end |
23518.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7694].text |
當然我覺得大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].start |
23518.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].end |
23520.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7695].text |
有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].start |
23520.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].end |
23522.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7696].text |
尤其在這個學代也好學費減免也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].start |
23522.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].end |
23524.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7697].text |
給我們學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].start |
23524.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].end |
23526.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7698].text |
多一點幫助跟鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].start |
23526.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].end |
23528.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7699].text |
那我看現在大概就是意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].start |
23528.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].end |
23530.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7700].text |
是用立法還是用立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].start |
23530.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].end |
23532.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7701].text |
來處理這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].start |
23532.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].end |
23534.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7702].text |
但是我要特別講一下就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].start |
23534.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].end |
23536.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7703].text |
事實上我覺得以所謂的那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].start |
23536.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].end |
23538.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7704].text |
立法例來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].start |
23538.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].end |
23540.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7705].text |
立法說明其實並不適宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].start |
23540.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].end |
23542.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7706].text |
去把一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].start |
23542.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].end |
23544.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7707].text |
政策明確化來在立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].start |
23544.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].end |
23546.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7708].text |
立法說明當然就想為什麼要立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].start |
23546.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].end |
23548.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7709].text |
他去講問題的意識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].start |
23548.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].end |
23550.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7710].text |
然後包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].start |
23550.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].end |
23552.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7711].text |
達成的目的政策的目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].start |
23552.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].end |
23554.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7712].text |
現行制度有什麼要改變的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].start |
23554.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].end |
23556.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7713].text |
還有歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].start |
23556.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].end |
23558.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7714].text |
的一個原由 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].start |
23558.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].end |
23560.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7715].text |
所以他其實通常是比較抽象性 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].start |
23560.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].end |
23562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7716].text |
因此如果說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].start |
23562.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].end |
23564.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7717].text |
今天從政策的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].start |
23564.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].end |
23566.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7718].text |
我們要以法律作為政策後盾的角度 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].start |
23566.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].end |
23568.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7719].text |
來講的話他應該還是要修進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].start |
23568.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].end |
23570.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7720].text |
法條裡面我覺得這才是正辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].start |
23570.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].end |
23572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7721].text |
所以這倒是跟政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].start |
23572.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].end |
23574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7722].text |
覺得召委有沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].start |
23574.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].end |
23576.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7723].text |
我覺得有共識是好事但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].start |
23576.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].end |
23578.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7724].text |
以立法手段來講我個人還是認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].start |
23578.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].end |
23580.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7725].text |
用法律條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].start |
23580.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].end |
23582.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7726].text |
來規範是比較合宜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].start |
23582.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].end |
23584.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7727].text |
當然也尊重我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].start |
23584.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].end |
23586.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7728].text |
其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].start |
23586.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].end |
23588.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7729].text |
所以光這個放在哪個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].start |
23588.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].end |
23590.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7730].text |
既然也有大家不太相同的意見的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].start |
23590.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].end |
23592.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7731].text |
那我覺得主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].start |
23592.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].end |
23594.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7732].text |
用保留的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].start |
23594.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].end |
23596.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7733].text |
我覺得也是一個處理的方式以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].start |
23596.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].end |
23598.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7734].text |
我另外跟現場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].start |
23598.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].end |
23600.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7735].text |
另外報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].start |
23600.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].end |
23602.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7736].text |
我們現在不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].start |
23602.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].end |
23604.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7737].text |
只有要不要入法跟要不要入在說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].start |
23606.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].end |
23608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7738].text |
我們現在是剛剛才處理到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].start |
23608.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].end |
23610.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7739].text |
要不要五等分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].start |
23610.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].end |
23612.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7740].text |
後二十八還有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].start |
23612.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].end |
23614.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7741].text |
文字細節包括我寫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].start |
23614.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].end |
23616.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7742].text |
免納資學費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].start |
23616.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].end |
23618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7743].text |
教育部編列預算免於 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].start |
23618.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].end |
23620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7744].text |
免於繳納註冊時 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].start |
23620.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].end |
23622.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7745].text |
要撥經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].start |
23622.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].end |
23624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7746].text |
其實這些細部的文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].start |
23624.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].end |
23626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7747].text |
也是在我入法的時候我比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].start |
23626.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].end |
23628.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7748].text |
很希望精準 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].start |
23628.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].end |
23630.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7749].text |
來處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].start |
23630.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].end |
23632.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7750].text |
所以剛剛教育部只是承諾了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].start |
23632.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].end |
23634.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7751].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].start |
23634.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].end |
23636.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7752].text |
我的需求的三分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].start |
23636.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].end |
23638.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7753].text |
所以這也是我不敢立即 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].start |
23638.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].end |
23640.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7754].text |
馬上答應 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].start |
23640.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].end |
23642.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[7755].text |
因為剛剛只有五等分放到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].start |
23642.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].end |
23644.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7756].text |
立法說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].start |
23644.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].end |
23646.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7757].text |
所以我覺得這個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].start |
23646.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].end |
23648.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7758].text |
我不敢答應要保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].start |
23648.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].end |
23650.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[7759].text |
謝謝吳市長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].start |
23650.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].end |
23652.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7760].text |
謝謝主席我再補充說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].start |
23652.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].end |
23654.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7761].text |
大學法三十五條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].start |
23654.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].end |
23656.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7762].text |
有三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].start |
23656.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].end |
23658.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7763].text |
第一項大家都同意不動 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].start |
23658.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].end |
23660.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7764].text |
第二項就是要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].start |
23660.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].end |
23662.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7765].text |
政府為協助學生就讀大學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].start |
23662.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].end |
23664.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7766].text |
應辦理哪些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].start |
23664.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].end |
23666.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7767].text |
會增加一個電腦及 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].start |
23666.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].end |
23668.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[7768].text |
網路通訊使用費 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].start |
23669.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].end |
23671.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7769].text |
這個要增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].start |
23671.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].end |
23673.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[7770].text |
然後呢上面這些費用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].start |
23675.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].end |
23677.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7771].text |
貸款條件額度權利義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[7772].start |
23677.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7772].end |
23679.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7772].text |
跟還款協助措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[7773].start |
23679.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7773].end |
23681.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7773].text |
及其他應遵行 |
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23681.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7774].end |
23683.09 |
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事項之辦法由教育部定制 |
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23683.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7775].end |
23685.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7775].text |
這是第二項的修正文字非常明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[7776].start |
23685.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7776].end |
23687.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7776].text |
第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7777].start |
23687.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7777].end |
23689.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7777].text |
要增修的文字我還是 |
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23689.09 |
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23691.09 |
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因為都已經在題彙討論的 |
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23691.09 |
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23693.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7779].text |
版本很清楚但我還是 |
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23693.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7780].end |
23695.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7780].text |
要再花一點時間來說明 |
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23695.09 |
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23697.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7781].text |
有助於大家理解 |
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23697.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7782].end |
23699.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7782].text |
第三項的文字是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7783].start |
23699.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7783].end |
23701.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7783].text |
政府應依學生家庭 |
| transcript.whisperx[7784].start |
23701.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7784].end |
23703.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7784].text |
所得或其他突發 |
| transcript.whisperx[7785].start |
23703.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7785].end |
23705.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7785].text |
經濟不利情況提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[7786].start |
23705.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7786].end |
23707.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7786].text |
經濟不利處境學生助學 |
| transcript.whisperx[7787].start |
23707.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7787].end |
23709.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7787].text |
措施其助學條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7788].start |
23709.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7788].end |
23711.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7788].text |
額度權利義務及其他應遵行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7789].start |
23711.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7789].end |
23713.09 |
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事項之辦法由教育部定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[7790].start |
23713.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7790].end |
23715.09 |
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這個是謀法增訂第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7791].start |
23715.09 |
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23717.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7791].text |
的條文所以才會 |
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23717.09 |
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23719.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7792].text |
因為增訂的這第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7793].start |
23719.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7793].end |
23721.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7793].text |
我們到底 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].start |
23721.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].end |
23723.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7794].text |
這些應遵行事項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7795].start |
23723.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7795].end |
23725.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7795].text |
內涵是什麼我們把它放在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7796].start |
23725.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7796].end |
23727.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7796].text |
立法說明它是一個延伸 |
| transcript.whisperx[7797].start |
23727.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7797].end |
23729.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7797].text |
而且它一樣就是入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].start |
23729.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].end |
23731.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7798].text |
的法律效力好我們來看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].start |
23731.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].end |
23733.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7799].text |
在立法說明裡頭為了增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].start |
23733.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].end |
23735.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7800].text |
第三項我們增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].start |
23735.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].end |
23737.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7801].text |
的文字是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7802].start |
23737.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7802].end |
23739.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7802].text |
立法說明的第二點 |
| transcript.whisperx[7803].start |
23739.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7803].end |
23741.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7803].text |
為了落實教育平權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7804].start |
23741.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7804].end |
23743.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7804].text |
避免學生因家庭所得或 |
| transcript.whisperx[7805].start |
23743.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7805].end |
23745.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7805].text |
其他經濟不利情形而影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[7806].start |
23745.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7806].end |
23747.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7806].text |
其受教權原增訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[7807].start |
23747.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7807].end |
23749.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7807].text |
第三項就剛剛講的第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].start |
23749.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].end |
23751.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7808].text |
對不對那明定政府要做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7809].start |
23751.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7809].end |
23753.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7809].text |
事情是什麼請 |
| transcript.whisperx[7810].start |
23753.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7810].end |
23755.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[7810].text |
看下半段 |
| transcript.whisperx[7811].start |
23756.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7811].end |
23758.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[7811].text |
另立辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].start |
23758.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].end |
23760.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7812].text |
具以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].start |
23760.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].end |
23762.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7813].text |
以及時因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].start |
23762.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].end |
23764.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7814].text |
國內家庭所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7815].start |
23764.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7815].end |
23766.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7815].text |
的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].start |
23766.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].end |
23768.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7816].text |
例如參潮足跡總處公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].start |
23768.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].end |
23770.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7817].text |
家庭收支調查報告之家庭所得 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].start |
23770.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].end |
23772.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7818].text |
五等分位這就是主席您的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].start |
23773.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].end |
23777.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7819].text |
然後這些東西都很清楚的依附於增訂第三項 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].start |
23777.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].end |
23779.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7820].text |
然後擴充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7821].start |
23779.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7821].end |
23781.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7821].text |
在立法說明的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].start |
23781.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].end |
23783.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7822].text |
文字裡頭它其實是入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].start |
23783.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].end |
23785.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7823].text |
母法而且有說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].start |
23785.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].end |
23787.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[7824].text |
很清楚這第一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[7825].start |
23788.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7825].end |
23790.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7825].text |
所以也達到了主席希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].start |
23790.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].end |
23792.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[7826].text |
責成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].start |
23792.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].end |
23794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7827].text |
教育部門往這個方向去推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].start |
23794.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].end |
23796.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7828].text |
的政策方向達到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].start |
23796.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].end |
23798.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7829].text |
第二個如果委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].start |
23798.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].end |
23800.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7830].text |
們覺得這個還不夠我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].start |
23800.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].end |
23802.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[7831].text |
剛剛也簽署了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].start |
23802.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].end |
23804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7832].text |
通過這個修正條文的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].start |
23804.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].end |
23806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7833].text |
附帶決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].start |
23806.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].end |
23808.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7834].text |
1加1 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].start |
23808.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].end |
23810.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7835].text |
1 plus 1會更有利 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].start |
23810.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].end |
23812.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7836].text |
更有效力的去責成 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].start |
23812.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].end |
23814.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7837].text |
行政部門做 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].start |
23814.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].end |
23816.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[7838].text |
所以我覺得有入母法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].start |
23818.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].end |
23820.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7839].text |
然後有補強了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].start |
23820.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].end |
23822.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7840].text |
修正動議這都彰顯 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].start |
23822.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].end |
23824.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7841].text |
立法院教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].start |
23824.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].end |
23826.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7842].text |
跨黨派委員對於照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].start |
23826.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].end |
23828.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7843].text |
學生的這個努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].start |
23828.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].end |
23830.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[7844].text |
真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].start |
23830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].end |
23832.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7845].text |
還是要補充說明啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].start |
23832.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].end |
23834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[7846].text |
我們不厭其煩溝通嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].start |
23835.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].end |
23837.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7847].text |
那看主席是這樣的說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].start |
23837.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].end |
23839.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[7848].text |
夠不夠清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].start |
23839.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].end |
23841.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7849].text |
還是您覺得還是沒有辦法決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].start |
23841.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].end |
23843.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7850].text |
我覺得是非常清楚啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].start |
23847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].end |
23849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7851].text |
召委跟各位委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].start |
23849.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].end |
23851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7852].text |
就是說其實我各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].start |
23851.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].end |
23853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7853].text |
的版本的提案都非常的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].start |
23853.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].end |
23855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7854].text |
仔細包含說連 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].start |
23855.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].end |
23857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7855].text |
免納學費之後要由教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].start |
23857.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].end |
23859.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7856].text |
來編列預算補助學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].start |
23859.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].end |
23861.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7857].text |
而且應該在註冊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].start |
23861.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].end |
23863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7858].text |
時就先減免等於說不要讓學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].start |
23863.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].end |
23865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7859].text |
還要先繳之後我們再 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].start |
23865.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].end |
23867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7860].text |
補給他那這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].start |
23867.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].end |
23869.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7861].text |
都都是學生團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].start |
23869.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].end |
23871.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7862].text |
來跟我們溝通那我也跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].start |
23871.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].end |
23873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7863].text |
目前我們政府各類的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].start |
23873.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].end |
23875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7864].text |
學雜費減免從低收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].start |
23875.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].end |
23877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7865].text |
到申請障礙學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].start |
23877.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].end |
23879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7866].text |
甚至到原住民我們都是採取 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].start |
23879.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].end |
23881.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7867].text |
就先預扣起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].start |
23881.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].end |
23883.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7868].text |
不會讓學生負擔所以委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].start |
23883.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].end |
23885.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7869].text |
可以放心就是說如果我們將來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].start |
23885.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].end |
23887.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7870].text |
再執行這一條我們一樣在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].start |
23887.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].end |
23889.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7871].text |
委員關心的不要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].start |
23889.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].end |
23891.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7872].text |
學生先繳先繳我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].start |
23891.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].end |
23893.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7873].text |
再補給他這個部分我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].start |
23893.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].end |
23895.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7874].text |
都已經在繳費的當下就 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].start |
23895.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].end |
23897.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7875].text |
先幫學生都預扣掉了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].start |
23897.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].end |
23899.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7876].text |
所以這個部分我們是有 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].start |
23899.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].end |
23901.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7877].text |
現行規定可以參考啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].start |
23901.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].end |
23903.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7878].text |
所以希望說委員可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].start |
23903.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].end |
23905.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7879].text |
放心說再不再執行這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].start |
23905.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].end |
23907.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7880].text |
因為在其他的學雜費減免 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].start |
23907.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].end |
23909.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7881].text |
都有類似的操作 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].start |
23909.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].end |
23911.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[7882].text |
不會增加學生的負擔也跟委員補充 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].start |
23920.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].end |
23922.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7883].text |
好我想AQ一下就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].start |
23922.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].end |
23924.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7884].text |
剛剛思雅委員有特別說到 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].start |
23924.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].end |
23926.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7885].text |
我想這個第35條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].start |
23926.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].end |
23928.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7886].text |
既然其實我們已經把這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].start |
23928.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].end |
23930.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7887].text |
的一個整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].start |
23930.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].end |
23932.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7888].text |
算是概化性的非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].start |
23932.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].end |
23934.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7889].text |
重要的一個方向寫在 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].start |
23934.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].end |
23936.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7890].text |
35條上那這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].start |
23936.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].end |
23938.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7891].text |
所謂的這個立法說明其實他 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].start |
23938.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].end |
23940.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7892].text |
也是在這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].start |
23940.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].end |
23942.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7893].text |
架構當中去補強 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].start |
23942.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].end |
23944.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7894].text |
就是剛剛這個趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].start |
23944.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].end |
23946.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7895].text |
您的這個修法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].start |
23946.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].end |
23948.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7896].text |
內容跟這樣子的一個條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].start |
23948.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].end |
23950.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7897].text |
那大家其實都往這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].start |
23950.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].end |
23952.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7898].text |
再往前進了那後面我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].start |
23952.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].end |
23954.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7899].text |
再就是另外再 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].start |
23954.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].end |
23956.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7900].text |
提了一個就是我們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].start |
23956.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].end |
23958.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7901].text |
附帶決議我想這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].start |
23958.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].end |
23960.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7902].text |
一加一啦那我相信這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].start |
23960.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].end |
23962.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7903].text |
絕對是有非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].start |
23962.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].end |
23964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7904].text |
重要的一個指標性的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].start |
23964.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].end |
23966.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7905].text |
第35條我們的立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].start |
23966.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].end |
23968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7906].text |
的一個精神啦那我想大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].start |
23968.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].end |
23970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7907].text |
既然都是非常關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].start |
23970.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].end |
23972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7908].text |
這樣子的一個狀況跟這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].start |
23972.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].end |
23974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7909].text |
問題那其實大家也都往這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].start |
23974.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].end |
23976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7910].text |
方向去調整那我相信這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].start |
23976.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].end |
23978.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7911].text |
方向其實應該其他的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].start |
23978.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].end |
23980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7912].text |
應該也都同意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].start |
23980.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].end |
23982.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7913].text |
那現在就是看趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].start |
23982.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].end |
23984.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[7914].text |
您的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].start |
23986.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].end |
23988.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7915].text |
跟郭委員報告因為剛剛還是有其他委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].start |
23988.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].end |
23990.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7916].text |
表達出不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].start |
23990.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].end |
23992.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7917].text |
不是只有我啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].start |
23992.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].end |
23994.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[7918].text |
不好意思不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].start |
23994.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].end |
23996.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[7919].text |
好那因為大家委員都非常 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].start |
23997.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].end |
23999.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7920].text |
積極的表達自己的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].start |
23999.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].end |
24001.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7921].text |
那也因為有不同的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].start |
24001.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].end |
24003.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7922].text |
所以做主席我還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].start |
24003.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].end |
24005.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7923].text |
要跟大家說聲我們就是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].start |
24005.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].end |
24007.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7924].text |
松院會處理那再來整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].start |
24007.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].end |
24009.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7925].text |
大家的意見到時候政黨協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].start |
24009.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].end |
24011.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7926].text |
那郭議員所 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].start |
24011.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].end |
24013.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7927].text |
提出的附帶決議一併保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].start |
24013.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].end |
24015.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7928].text |
那我們都尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].start |
24015.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].end |
24017.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7929].text |
大家的意見所以一併保留到時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].start |
24017.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].end |
24019.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7930].text |
一併再來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].start |
24019.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].end |
24021.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7931].text |
審查結果免於重複宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].start |
24021.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].end |
24023.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7932].text |
再不影響條文文以前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].start |
24023.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].end |
24025.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7933].text |
文字條次及標點符號 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].start |
24025.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].end |
24027.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7934].text |
為統一體例授權 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].start |
24027.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].end |
24029.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7935].text |
醫治人員處理列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].start |
24029.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].end |
24031.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7936].text |
本案逐條已處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].start |
24031.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].end |
24033.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7937].text |
作以下宣告大選法第35條條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].start |
24033.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].end |
24035.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7938].text |
相關修正草案以全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].start |
24035.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].end |
24037.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7939].text |
審查完畢並按擬據 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].start |
24037.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].end |
24039.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7940].text |
審查報告提起 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].start |
24039.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].end |
24041.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7941].text |
院會公決本案 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].start |
24041.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].end |
24043.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7942].text |
須交由政黨協商院會 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].start |
24043.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].end |
24045.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7943].text |
討論時由羅召集委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].start |
24045.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].end |
24047.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[7944].text |
庭委補充說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].start |
24047.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].end |
24049.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[7945].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].start |
24050.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].end |
24052.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7946].text |
另外我要補充說 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].start |
24052.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].end |
24054.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[7947].text |
補充宣告 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].start |
24056.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].end |
24058.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7948].text |
我要補充宣告剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].start |
24058.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].end |
24060.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[7949].text |
高級中等教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].start |
24061.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].end |
24063.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7950].text |
委員羅庭委第58條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].start |
24063.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].end |
24065.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7951].text |
也有提出修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].start |
24065.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].end |
24067.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7952].text |
一併列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].start |
24067.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].end |
24069.37 |
| transcript.whisperx[7953].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].start |
24070.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].end |
24072.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7954].text |
現在繼續進行專科學校法第40條 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].start |
24072.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].end |
24074.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7955].text |
條文修正逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].start |
24074.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].end |
24076.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7956].text |
第40條條文修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].start |
24076.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].end |
24078.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7957].text |
有委員柯志恩等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].start |
24078.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].end |
24080.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7958].text |
等16個提案以及委員陳秀寶等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].start |
24080.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].end |
24082.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7959].text |
委員吳思瑤等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].start |
24082.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].end |
24084.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7960].text |
還有委員羅庭委等人 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].start |
24084.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].end |
24086.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7961].text |
所提的修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].start |
24086.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].end |
24088.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7962].text |
那現在是不是請大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].start |
24088.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].end |
24090.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[7963].text |
發表意見謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].start |
24096.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].end |
24098.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7964].text |
委員吳立華 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].start |
24098.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].end |
24100.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7965].text |
也有提出這個修正動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].start |
24100.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].end |
24102.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7966].text |
這個我一併唸出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].start |
24102.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].end |
24104.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7967].text |
那再來我們先 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].start |
24104.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].end |
24106.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[7968].text |
翻到這個第44條謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].start |
24107.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].end |
24109.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7969].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].start |
24115.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].end |
24117.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[7970].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].start |
24117.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].end |
24119.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7971].text |
好我們看到大家的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].start |
24119.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].end |
24121.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[7972].text |
請大家舉手謝謝吳思瑤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].start |
24121.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].end |
24123.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7973].text |
其實專科學校法跟剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].start |
24123.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].end |
24125.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7974].text |
大學法35條是完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].start |
24125.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].end |
24127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7975].text |
一致的狀況啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].start |
24127.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].end |
24129.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7976].text |
因為大學法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].start |
24129.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].end |
24131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7977].text |
跟專科學校一樣在高教 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].start |
24131.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].end |
24133.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7978].text |
的部分所以條件上 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].start |
24133.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].end |
24135.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7979].text |
如果說主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].start |
24135.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].end |
24137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7980].text |
都覺得說這沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].start |
24137.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].end |
24139.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7981].text |
那我覺得我也 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].start |
24139.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].end |
24141.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7982].text |
喜字如驚了啦否則講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].start |
24141.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].end |
24143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7983].text |
一堆主席之後也沒有尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].start |
24143.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].end |
24145.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[7984].text |
我們的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].start |
24145.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].end |
24147.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7985].text |
那這樣既然都一樣的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].start |
24147.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].end |
24149.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7986].text |
剛剛大學法保留了那專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].start |
24149.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].end |
24151.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7987].text |
就一併保留吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].start |
24151.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].end |
24153.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[7988].text |
應該也不太可能有什麼突破了 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].start |
24155.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].end |
24157.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7989].text |
不會啦不會說不聽你意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].start |
24157.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].end |
24159.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7990].text |
就同意保留嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].start |
24159.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].end |
24161.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7991].text |
相同的狀況 |
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24161.66 |
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24163.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7992].text |
因為也不好意思說大學的 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].start |
24163.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].end |
24165.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7993].text |
保留這個沒保留也很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].start |
24165.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].end |
24167.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7994].text |
那我們就保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].start |
24167.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].end |
24169.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7995].text |
送院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].start |
24169.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].end |
24171.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7996].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].start |
24171.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].end |
24173.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7997].text |
保留歸保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].start |
24173.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].end |
24175.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7998].text |
吳思瑤委 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].start |
24175.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].end |
24177.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[7999].text |
我還是提醒一下因為保留歸保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].start |
24177.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].end |
24179.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8000].text |
但是因為我的文字可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].start |
24179.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].end |
24181.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8001].text |
有一個部分很重要就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].start |
24181.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].end |
24183.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8002].text |
涉及原住民部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].start |
24183.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].end |
24185.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8003].text |
有教育部會同中央原住民組 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].start |
24185.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].end |
24187.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8004].text |
主觀機關定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].start |
24187.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].end |
24189.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8005].text |
就是不要落掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].start |
24189.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].end |
24191.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8006].text |
這段話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].start |
24191.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].end |
24193.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8007].text |
這很重要對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].start |
24193.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].end |
24195.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8008].text |
不好意思剛剛沒看到你舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].start |
24195.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].end |
24197.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8009].text |
那就保留送院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].start |
24200.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].end |
24202.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8010].text |
繼續進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].start |
24202.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].end |
24204.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8011].text |
對不起保留送院會協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].start |
24204.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].end |
24206.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8012].text |
那委員吳思瑤等人所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].start |
24206.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].end |
24208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8013].text |
附帶決議一併保留處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].start |
24208.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].end |
24210.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8014].text |
審查結果免於重複宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].start |
24210.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].end |
24212.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8015].text |
在不影響條文文藝前提下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].start |
24212.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].end |
24214.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8016].text |
文字條及標點符號 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].start |
24214.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].end |
24216.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8017].text |
為統一體例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].start |
24216.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].end |
24218.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8018].text |
授權議事人員整理列入紀錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].start |
24218.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].end |
24220.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8019].text |
本案逐條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].start |
24220.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].end |
24222.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8020].text |
已經均已處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].start |
24222.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].end |
24224.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8021].text |
作以下宣告專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].start |
24224.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].end |
24226.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8022].text |
第44條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].start |
24226.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].end |
24228.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8023].text |
條文修正相關的修正長按 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].start |
24228.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].end |
24230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8024].text |
以全部審查完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].start |
24230.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].end |
24232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8025].text |
並按你具審查報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].start |
24232.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].end |
24234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8026].text |
提請院會公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].start |
24234.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].end |
24236.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8027].text |
本案須交由政黨協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].start |
24236.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].end |
24238.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8028].text |
院會表決時由羅召集委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].start |
24238.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].end |
24240.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8029].text |
聽為補充說明以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].start |
24242.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].end |
24244.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8030].text |
好我們另外進入到下一個環節 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].start |
24246.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].end |
24248.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8031].text |
繼續審查學校營養 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].start |
24248.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].end |
24250.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8032].text |
學校午餐及飲食 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].start |
24250.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].end |
24252.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8033].text |
教育條例相關的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].start |
24252.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].end |
24254.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8034].text |
本案前經 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].start |
24254.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].end |
24256.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8035].text |
114年11月27日 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].start |
24256.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].end |
24258.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8036].text |
召開第四會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].start |
24258.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].end |
24260.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8037].text |
教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].start |
24260.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].end |
24262.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8038].text |
第八次全體委員會決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].start |
24262.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].end |
24264.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8039].text |
審查結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].start |
24264.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].end |
24266.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8040].text |
法案名稱照委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].start |
24266.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].end |
24268.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8041].text |
柯志恩等21人委員陳培瑜 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].start |
24268.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].end |
24270.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8042].text |
等26人提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].start |
24270.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].end |
24272.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8043].text |
各章章明均不予採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].start |
24272.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].end |
24274.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8044].text |
第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].start |
24274.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].end |
24276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8045].text |
暫時保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].start |
24276.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].end |
24278.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8046].text |
第二條修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].start |
24278.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].end |
24280.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8047].text |
現在進行逐條審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].start |
24289.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].end |
24291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8048].text |
好我們先翻開這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].start |
24291.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].end |
24293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8049].text |
各個委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].start |
24293.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].end |
24295.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8050].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].start |
24297.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].end |
24299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8051].text |
那剛剛有宣告說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].start |
24299.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].end |
24301.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8052].text |
第二條修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].start |
24303.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].end |
24305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8053].text |
那現在我們就看第三條吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].start |
24305.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].end |
24307.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8054].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].start |
24307.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].end |
24309.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8055].text |
還要再把暫保留再處理一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].start |
24309.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].end |
24311.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8056].text |
是嗎 好好好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].start |
24311.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].end |
24313.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8057].text |
主席我可以程序發言一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].start |
24313.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].end |
24315.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8058].text |
可以可以 等我一下 我先釐清一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].start |
24315.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].end |
24317.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8059].text |
程序發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].start |
24318.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].end |
24320.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8060].text |
優先 好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].start |
24320.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].end |
24322.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8061].text |
OK OK 好請說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].start |
24322.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].end |
24324.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8062].text |
是我想提議在場的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].start |
24324.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].end |
24326.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8063].text |
大家商量一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].start |
24326.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].end |
24328.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8064].text |
學校營養午餐及飲食教育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].start |
24328.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].end |
24330.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8065].text |
現在在手上有39案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].start |
24332.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].end |
24334.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8066].text |
39個案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].start |
24334.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].end |
24338.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8067].text |
那要修的條文大概有20幾條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].start |
24338.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].end |
24340.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8068].text |
那如果以上一個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].start |
24340.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].end |
24342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8069].text |
上一個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].start |
24342.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].end |
24344.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8070].text |
我記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].start |
24344.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].end |
24346.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8071].text |
雖然那個時候我不在教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].start |
24346.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].end |
24348.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8072].text |
但是大家在審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].start |
24348.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].end |
24350.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8073].text |
光 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].start |
24350.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].end |
24352.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8074].text |
條文名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].start |
24352.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].end |
24354.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8075].text |
第一條跟第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].start |
24354.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].end |
24356.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[8076].text |
好像就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].start |
24356.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].end |
24358.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[8077].text |
搞了一整個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].start |
24358.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].end |
24360.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8078].text |
兩次會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].start |
24360.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].end |
24362.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8079].text |
那因為我是又 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].start |
24362.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].end |
24364.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8080].text |
剛剛修這個學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].start |
24364.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].end |
24366.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8081].text |
條文是四個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].start |
24366.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].end |
24368.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8082].text |
但是看到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].start |
24368.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].end |
24370.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8083].text |
討論起來的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].start |
24372.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].end |
24374.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8084].text |
我們努力的在共識上去達成共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].start |
24374.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].end |
24376.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8085].text |
但都沒有辦法共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].start |
24376.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].end |
24378.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8086].text |
那四個條文的法都這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].start |
24378.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].end |
24380.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8087].text |
那這個有20幾個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].start |
24380.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].end |
24382.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8088].text |
39案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].start |
24384.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].end |
24386.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8089].text |
的營養午餐條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].start |
24386.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].end |
24388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8090].text |
我是建議教育部要多花一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].start |
24388.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].end |
24390.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8091].text |
跟委員們再溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].start |
24390.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].end |
24392.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8092].text |
否則我們現在就逐條下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].start |
24392.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].end |
24394.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8093].text |
不光一個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].start |
24394.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].end |
24396.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8094].text |
可能就講三個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].start |
24396.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].end |
24398.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8095].text |
然後結論主席的才是還是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].start |
24398.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].end |
24400.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8096].text |
沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].start |
24400.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].end |
24402.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[8097].text |
那我覺得這樣子委員會的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].start |
24402.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].end |
24404.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[8098].text |
似乎就沒有太大的意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].start |
24406.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].end |
24408.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8099].text |
所以我是個人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].start |
24408.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].end |
24410.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8100].text |
就如同我們在場委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].start |
24410.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].end |
24412.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8101].text |
我們都很希望時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].start |
24411.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].end |
24413.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8102].text |
在沒有共識的議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].start |
24413.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].end |
24415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8103].text |
還有其他奇異過大的議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].start |
24415.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].end |
24417.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8104].text |
大家都 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].start |
24417.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].end |
24419.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8105].text |
現在省點力氣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].start |
24420.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].end |
24422.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8106].text |
省點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].start |
24422.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].end |
24424.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8107].text |
我們把時間應當用在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].start |
24424.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].end |
24426.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8108].text |
我們很急的預算案上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].start |
24426.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].end |
24428.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8109].text |
趕快來審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].start |
24428.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].end |
24430.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8110].text |
所以說我們提議說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].start |
24430.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].end |
24432.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8111].text |
我們現在要審查的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].start |
24432.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].end |
24434.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8112].text |
學校公參法草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].start |
24434.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].end |
24436.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8113].text |
等等相關的修正草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].start |
24436.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].end |
24438.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8114].text |
那因為有鑑於地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].start |
24438.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].end |
24440.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8115].text |
第18條、第19條的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].start |
24440.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].end |
24442.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8116].text |
當中很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].start |
24442.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].end |
24444.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8117].text |
我想這個修法有一個很重要的核心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].start |
24444.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].end |
24446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8118].text |
就在中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].start |
24446.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].end |
24448.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8119].text |
對於營養午餐費的分擔上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].start |
24448.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].end |
24450.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8120].text |
其實連中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].start |
24450.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].end |
24452.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8121].text |
都沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].start |
24452.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].end |
24454.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8122].text |
所以今天立委在這邊討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].start |
24454.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].end |
24456.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8123].text |
討論完 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].start |
24456.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].end |
24458.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8124].text |
我們都會問行政部門一件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].start |
24458.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].end |
24460.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8125].text |
你們跟地方政府溝通了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].start |
24460.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].end |
24462.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8126].text |
所以這個法不是只有營養午餐法本身 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].start |
24462.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].end |
24464.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8127].text |
還跟地方制度法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].start |
24464.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].end |
24466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8128].text |
相關的規定裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].start |
24466.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].end |
24468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8129].text |
營養午餐為地方自治的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].start |
24468.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].end |
24470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8130].text |
而且現在22個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].start |
24470.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].end |
24472.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8131].text |
他們運作的機制不一啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].start |
24472.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].end |
24474.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8132].text |
我會希望教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].start |
24474.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].end |
24476.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8133].text |
中央政府跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].start |
24476.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].end |
24478.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[8134].text |
持續的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].start |
24479.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].end |
24481.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8135].text |
再來進行我們營養午餐的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].start |
24481.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].end |
24483.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8136].text |
否則每一條卡住 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].start |
24483.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].end |
24485.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8137].text |
每一條花時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].start |
24485.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].end |
24487.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8138].text |
沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].start |
24487.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].end |
24489.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8139].text |
因為爭議真的很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].start |
24489.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].end |
24491.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8140].text |
所以我是具體的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].start |
24491.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].end |
24493.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8141].text |
我們剛剛也完成學代三法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].start |
24493.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].end |
24495.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8142].text |
我們希望未來的時間是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].start |
24495.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].end |
24497.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8143].text |
保留給審查預算,預算優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].start |
24497.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].end |
24499.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8144].text |
拖了286天 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].start |
24499.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].end |
24501.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8145].text |
所以我正式我們武力華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].start |
24501.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].end |
24503.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8146].text |
陳秀寶委員、郭玉琴委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].start |
24503.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].end |
24505.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8147].text |
跟吳思瑤委員我們提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].start |
24505.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].end |
24507.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8148].text |
今天的會議到此為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].start |
24507.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].end |
24509.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8149].text |
相關的法案審查我們另定期來審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].start |
24509.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].end |
24513.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8150].text |
我們具體提出這個議案請主席來公決 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].start |
24515.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].end |
24517.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8151].text |
好,是不是處理這個動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].start |
24517.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].end |
24519.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8152].text |
是優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].start |
24519.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].end |
24521.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8153].text |
但是我還是讓我先回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].start |
24521.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].end |
24523.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8154].text |
那我還是要再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].start |
24523.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].end |
24525.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8155].text |
剛剛有一些法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].start |
24525.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].end |
24527.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8156].text |
並沒有說差距很大 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].start |
24527.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].end |
24529.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8157].text |
就是因為看到差距 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].start |
24529.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].end |
24531.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8158].text |
已經快要完成可以進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].start |
24531.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].end |
24533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8159].text |
入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].start |
24533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].end |
24535.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8160].text |
所以很多的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].start |
24535.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].end |
24537.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8161].text |
就希望說應該要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].start |
24537.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].end |
24539.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8162].text |
以學生權益最大化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8163].start |
24539.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8163].end |
24541.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8163].text |
然後把它給入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].start |
24541.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].end |
24543.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8164].text |
所以剛剛也有參酌其他的委員意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].start |
24543.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].end |
24545.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8165].text |
所以我們休會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].start |
24545.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].end |
24547.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8166].text |
那休會的時候我們休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8167].start |
24547.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8167].end |
24549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8167].text |
去做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8168].start |
24549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8168].end |
24551.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8168].text |
那其實委員還是要尊重很多委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].start |
24551.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].end |
24553.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8169].text |
所以我希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].start |
24553.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].end |
24555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8170].text |
吳思瑤委員很關切 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].start |
24555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].end |
24557.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8171].text |
那這真的不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].start |
24557.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].end |
24559.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8172].text |
召委能夠單一獨斷來決定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8173].start |
24559.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8173].end |
24561.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8173].text |
我們還是有尊重其他委員的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].start |
24561.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].end |
24563.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8174].text |
那再來第二個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8175].start |
24567.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8175].end |
24569.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8175].text |
很可惜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].start |
24569.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].end |
24571.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8176].text |
因為營養午餐要進入足條討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].start |
24571.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].end |
24573.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8177].text |
然後就被強制的休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].start |
24573.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].end |
24575.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8178].text |
我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8179].start |
24575.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8179].end |
24577.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8179].text |
我覺得很可惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[8180].start |
24577.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8180].end |
24579.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8180].text |
因為有一些委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].start |
24579.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].end |
24581.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8181].text |
大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8182].start |
24580.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8182].end |
24582.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8182].text |
焦點沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].start |
24582.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].end |
24584.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8183].text |
只是焦點不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].start |
24584.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].end |
24586.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8184].text |
你的焦點可能是中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].start |
24586.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].end |
24588.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8185].text |
如何分錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].start |
24588.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].end |
24590.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8186].text |
可是今天我記得羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].start |
24590.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].end |
24592.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8187].text |
我們都有在提到實農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].start |
24594.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].end |
24596.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8188].text |
飲食文化禮儀 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].start |
24597.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].end |
24599.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8189].text |
這個部分我相信是比較有共識的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].start |
24599.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].end |
24601.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8190].text |
我們應該來試著討論看看 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].start |
24601.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].end |
24603.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8191].text |
很可惜就有人提出動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].start |
24603.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].end |
24605.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8192].text |
要強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[8193].start |
24605.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8193].end |
24607.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8193].text |
我們就要休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].start |
24606.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].end |
24608.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8194].text |
那對於營養午餐的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].start |
24608.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].end |
24610.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8195].text |
我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].start |
24609.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].end |
24611.79 |
| transcript.whisperx[8196].text |
沒有討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].start |
24611.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].end |
24613.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8197].text |
就要求要散會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8198].start |
24613.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8198].end |
24615.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8198].text |
這個部分很可惜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].start |
24615.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].end |
24617.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8199].text |
我只能說在處理動議之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].start |
24617.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].end |
24619.91 |
| transcript.whisperx[8200].text |
我們還是有可以發言的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].start |
24623.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].end |
24625.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8201].text |
吳非議委員先發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].start |
24630.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].end |
24632.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8202].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].start |
24632.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].end |
24634.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8203].text |
這個我要附議吳思雅委員的提議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].start |
24634.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].end |
24636.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8204].text |
因為當前面的幾個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].start |
24636.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].end |
24638.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8205].text |
如同焦委剛所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8206].start |
24638.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8206].end |
24640.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8206].text |
其實大家共識的程度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].start |
24640.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].end |
24642.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8207].text |
蠻高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].start |
24642.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].end |
24644.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8208].text |
但是經過討論之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].start |
24644.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].end |
24646.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8209].text |
最後仍然是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].start |
24646.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].end |
24648.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8210].text |
就是說在委員會沒有結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].start |
24648.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].end |
24650.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8211].text |
沒有辦法達成共識的狀況 |
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24650.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8212].end |
24652.95 |
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那現在營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8213].start |
24652.95 |
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24654.95 |
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因為我自己已經有提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8214].start |
24654.95 |
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24656.95 |
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特別針對剛焦委所講到的這個飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].start |
24656.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].end |
24658.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8215].text |
這個也是我非常重視的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].start |
24658.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].end |
24660.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8216].text |
其實首篇的這個提案有39個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].start |
24660.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].end |
24662.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8217].text |
那上個會期我們也在教委會嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].start |
24662.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].end |
24664.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8218].text |
這討論的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].start |
24664.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].end |
24666.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8219].text |
連到這個文字的細節 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].start |
24666.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].end |
24668.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8220].text |
其實大家的意見很多都不相同 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].start |
24668.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].end |
24670.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8221].text |
那其中我也最關切的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].start |
24670.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].end |
24672.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8222].text |
我們真的是希望這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].start |
24672.95 |
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24674.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8223].text |
營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].start |
24674.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].end |
24676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8224].text |
大家等待很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].start |
24676.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].end |
24678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8225].text |
立下去之後是實務上要可以推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].start |
24678.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].end |
24680.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8226].text |
所以我們也要拜託教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].start |
24680.95 |
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24682.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8227].text |
是要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].start |
24682.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].end |
24684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8228].text |
真的要跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].start |
24684.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].end |
24686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8229].text |
而且就我所知光台北新北 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].start |
24686.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].end |
24688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8230].text |
就不同縣市的狀況真的都不大一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].start |
24688.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8231].end |
24690.95 |
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就是趕快來跟地方政府討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].start |
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24692.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8232].text |
除了補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8233].end |
24694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8233].text |
補助是其中一項而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].start |
24694.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].end |
24696.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8234].text |
像我們剛剛講的飲食教育要去推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].start |
24696.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].end |
24698.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8235].text |
若是到地方政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].start |
24698.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].end |
24700.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8236].text |
要請他,我希望法律下去就要有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].start |
24700.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].end |
24702.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8237].text |
有執行,有效果,有成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].start |
24702.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].end |
24704.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8238].text |
可以趕快來規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].start |
24704.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].end |
24706.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8239].text |
所以我也是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].start |
24706.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].end |
24708.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8240].text |
讓教育部先去跟地方政府溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].start |
24708.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].end |
24710.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8241].text |
休息不是說躺平 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].start |
24710.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].end |
24712.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8242].text |
不是說教育部也不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].start |
24712.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].end |
24714.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8243].text |
這次假設沒盡到足條都不動 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].start |
24714.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].end |
24716.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8244].text |
一定要趕快去跟地方政府溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].start |
24716.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].end |
24718.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8245].text |
我們是希望這個法案是有進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].start |
24718.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].end |
24720.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8246].text |
有辦法往前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].start |
24720.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].end |
24722.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8247].text |
才希望說跟地方政府的溝通要先做到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].start |
24722.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].end |
24724.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8248].text |
再來去討論立法技術 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].start |
24724.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].end |
24726.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8249].text |
細節文字的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].start |
24726.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].end |
24728.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8250].text |
所以我再次呼籲吳思瑤委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].start |
24728.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].end |
24730.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8251].text |
我希望可以等教育部跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].start |
24730.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].end |
24732.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8252].text |
溝通完整之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].start |
24732.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].end |
24734.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8253].text |
我們再來進行這個法案的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].start |
24737.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].end |
24739.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8254].text |
好,羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].start |
24743.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].end |
24745.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8255].text |
當然還是尊重我們這個委員提起的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].start |
24745.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].end |
24747.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8256].text |
提出的散會動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].start |
24747.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].end |
24749.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8257].text |
但是既然都覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].start |
24749.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].end |
24751.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8258].text |
營養午餐法大家在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].start |
24751.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].end |
24753.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8259].text |
這個審查過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].start |
24753.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].end |
24755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8260].text |
可能要花蠻多的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].start |
24755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].end |
24757.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8261].text |
跟審查的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].start |
24757.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].end |
24759.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8262].text |
那也這麼難得大家已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].start |
24759.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].end |
24761.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8263].text |
到這個地方來,那是不是我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].start |
24761.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].end |
24763.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8264].text |
今天還是可以考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].start |
24763.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].end |
24765.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8265].text |
就是我們今天用一個下午時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].start |
24765.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].end |
24767.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8266].text |
法案能夠往前推進到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].start |
24767.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].end |
24769.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8267].text |
什麼程度就往前推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].start |
24769.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].end |
24771.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8268].text |
那如果說真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].start |
24771.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].end |
24773.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8269].text |
推進到多走個兩步 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].start |
24773.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].end |
24775.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8270].text |
那最後還有很多溝通要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].start |
24775.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].end |
24777.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8271].text |
那其實也不妨害說今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].start |
24777.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].end |
24779.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8272].text |
這個我覺得執政黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].start |
24779.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].end |
24781.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8273].text |
所提的一個想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].start |
24781.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].end |
24783.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8274].text |
當然我還是要講啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].start |
24783.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].end |
24785.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8275].text |
尊重啦,因為這個是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].start |
24785.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].end |
24787.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8276].text |
本來提出程序上的一個動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].start |
24787.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].end |
24789.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8277].text |
就是立委的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].start |
24789.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].end |
24791.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8278].text |
所以這點是尊重,以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].start |
24796.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].end |
24798.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8279].text |
我從那個順序啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].start |
24798.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].end |
24800.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8280].text |
剛剛,就是那個劉樹斌委員先 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].start |
24805.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].end |
24807.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8281].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].start |
24808.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].end |
24810.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8282].text |
營養午餐法應該是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].start |
24810.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].end |
24812.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8283].text |
上個會期就已經有到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].start |
24812.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].end |
24814.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8284].text |
逐條討論了,那包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].start |
24814.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].end |
24816.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8285].text |
他的法案名稱其實也確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].start |
24816.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].end |
24818.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8286].text |
那在一月份的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].start |
24818.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].end |
24820.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8287].text |
委員會會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].start |
24820.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].end |
24822.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8288].text |
已經,我記得是彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].start |
24822.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].end |
24824.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8289].text |
已經就說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].start |
24824.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].end |
24826.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8290].text |
不好意思,名稱到底有沒有通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].start |
24828.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].end |
24830.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8291].text |
不好意思,怎麼次長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].start |
24830.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].end |
24832.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8292].text |
沒有,啊,祖密說有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].start |
24833.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].end |
24835.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8293].text |
有有有,已經名稱確定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].start |
24835.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].end |
24837.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[8294].text |
來,我們以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].start |
24837.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].end |
24839.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8295].text |
我們以教文委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].start |
24839.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].end |
24841.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8296].text |
對不起,讓你論述前我們先確認一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].start |
24841.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].end |
24843.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8297].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].start |
24845.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].end |
24847.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[8298].text |
名稱有三了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].start |
24847.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].end |
24849.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8299].text |
第三會期,第三次全體會議一思路 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].start |
24852.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].end |
24854.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8300].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].start |
24854.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].end |
24856.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8301].text |
可是這裡不是有寫陳培育委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].start |
24856.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].end |
24858.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8302].text |
提案通過嗎,對啊對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].start |
24858.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].end |
24860.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8303].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].start |
24861.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].end |
24863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8304].text |
我們這裡的第一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].start |
24863.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].end |
24865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8305].text |
給我的版本就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].start |
24865.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].end |
24867.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8306].text |
法案名稱照委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].start |
24867.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].end |
24869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8307].text |
柯志恩等21人,及委員陳培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].start |
24869.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].end |
24871.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8308].text |
等26人,提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].start |
24871.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].end |
24873.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8309].text |
所以是有進度的喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].start |
24873.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].end |
24875.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8310].text |
是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].start |
24875.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].end |
24877.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8311].text |
所以他叫做學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].start |
24877.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].end |
24879.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8312].text |
共產法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].start |
24879.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].end |
24881.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8313].text |
不是,高級中等學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].start |
24881.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].end |
24883.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8314].text |
好,不好意思,我念一個全名 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].start |
24883.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].end |
24885.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8315].text |
高級中等學校也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].start |
24885.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].end |
24887.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8316].text |
也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].start |
24887.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].end |
24889.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8317].text |
我們調出柯志恩 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].start |
24890.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].end |
24892.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8318].text |
顯然大家對於名稱是怎麼通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].start |
24892.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].end |
24894.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8319].text |
有一段時間 |
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24894.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].end |
24896.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8320].text |
有一段時間幫大家回憶一下 |
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24896.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].end |
24898.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8321].text |
沒關係,你看陳培育嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].start |
24901.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].end |
24903.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8322].text |
學校午餐及飲食教育條例朝案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].start |
24907.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].end |
24909.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8323].text |
這是名稱,當時通過的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].start |
24909.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].end |
24911.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8324].text |
所以也跟次長報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].start |
24911.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].end |
24913.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8325].text |
次長,對我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].start |
24913.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].end |
24915.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8326].text |
但次長您剛剛有提到可能名稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].start |
24915.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].end |
24917.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8327].text |
這個部分都還沒有定案 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].start |
24918.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].end |
24920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8328].text |
好,那蘇彬委員不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].start |
24920.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].end |
24922.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[8329].text |
第二條也有修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].start |
24924.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].end |
24926.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8330].text |
第二條也有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].start |
24929.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].end |
24931.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8331].text |
只有第一條保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].start |
24931.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].end |
24933.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8332].text |
來來來,我跟大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].start |
24933.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].end |
24935.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8333].text |
因為時間真的很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].start |
24935.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].end |
24937.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8334].text |
這件事情也拖很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].start |
24937.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].end |
24939.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[8335].text |
再一次我重複 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].start |
24938.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].end |
24940.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8336].text |
我還是會處理動議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].start |
24940.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].end |
24942.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8337].text |
我一定尊重委員,讓大家充分表達論述 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].start |
24942.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].end |
24944.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8338].text |
法案名稱,趙委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].start |
24944.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].end |
24946.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8339].text |
柯志恩還有陳培育委員等 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].start |
24946.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].end |
24948.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8340].text |
26人,提案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].start |
24948.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].end |
24950.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8341].text |
確定喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].start |
24949.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].end |
24951.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[8342].text |
來,各張章明,均不予採納 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].start |
24954.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].end |
24956.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[8343].text |
然後第一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].start |
24956.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].end |
24958.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8344].text |
暫時保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].start |
24958.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].end |
24960.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8345].text |
第二條,修正通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].start |
24962.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].end |
24964.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8346].text |
來我們請那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].start |
24966.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].end |
24968.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[8347].text |
第二條來,哪一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].start |
24969.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].end |
24971.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[8348].text |
對不起對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].start |
24971.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].end |
24973.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8349].text |
第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].start |
24972.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].end |
24974.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8350].text |
喔,那可能要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].start |
24974.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].end |
24976.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8351].text |
醫事人員念一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].start |
24976.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].end |
24978.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8352].text |
我們是請醫事人員念一下第二條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].start |
24980.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].end |
24982.57 |
| transcript.whisperx[8353].text |
好,我們念完就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].start |
24982.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].end |
24984.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[8354].text |
那個,劉書彬永遠繼續發言喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].start |
24985.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].end |
24987.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[8355].text |
第二條,本條例所稱主管機關在中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].start |
24989.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].end |
24993.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[8356].text |
在中央為教育部,在此為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止,為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].start |
24994.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].end |
24997.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8357].text |
在縣市為縣市政府以下解稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].start |
24997.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].end |
24998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8358].text |
我們文字看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].start |
24998.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].end |
24999.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8359].text |
主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].start |
24999.69 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].end |
25004.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8360].text |
主管機關掌理學校午餐與飲食教育之規劃推動及監督等事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].start |
25004.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].end |
25009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8361].text |
本條例所訂事項涉及中央各目的事業主管機關執掌者 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].start |
25009.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].end |
25013.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8362].text |
由中央各目的事業主管機關辦理,其權責劃分如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].start |
25013.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].end |
25023.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8363].text |
一、衛生福利主管機關學校午餐營養與均衡飲食廚房與校園飲食衛生安全之規劃推動及監督事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].start |
25023.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].end |
25029.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8364].text |
二、農業主管機關學校午餐食材師源頭端抽檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].start |
25029.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].end |
25033.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[8365].text |
監督及輔導供應國產農產品對動事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].start |
25034.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].end |
25042.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8366].text |
三、環境主管機關預防具食品安全風險疑慮之毒性以關注化學物質 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].start |
25042.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].end |
25046.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8367].text |
流入學校午餐食品鏈及處於在利用之推動事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].start |
25046.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].end |
25054.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8368].text |
四、其他學校午餐及飲食教育相關事項由各各中央目的事業主管機關一職權辦理 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].start |
25054.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].end |
25055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8369].text |
四、第一… |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].start |
25055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].end |
25056.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8370].text |
喔,沒有了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].start |
25056.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].end |
25058.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8371].text |
以上宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].start |
25060.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].end |
25062.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8372].text |
其實教育部也有建議版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].start |
25062.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].end |
25064.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8373].text |
所以有些有先通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].start |
25064.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].end |
25066.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8374].text |
謝謝我們前召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].start |
25066.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].end |
25068.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8375].text |
那請劉書賓委員繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].start |
25068.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].end |
25070.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[8376].text |
好,謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].start |
25071.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].end |
25073.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8377].text |
因為在上個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].start |
25073.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].end |
25077.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8378].text |
有經過至少大概兩次的一個逐條討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].start |
25077.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].end |
25079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8379].text |
那我們這過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].start |
25079.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].end |
25082.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8380].text |
經歷了非常大的一個變化 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].start |
25082.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].end |
25086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8381].text |
因為至少在1月中旬在審理的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].start |
25086.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].end |
25089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8382].text |
當初是有十幾…十九個縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].start |
25089.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].end |
25091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8383].text |
他們是說變成… |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].start |
25091.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].end |
25093.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8384].text |
通通變成營養午餐是免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].start |
25093.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].end |
25095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8385].text |
當初還有三個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].start |
25095.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].end |
25096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8386].text |
可是到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].start |
25096.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].end |
25098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8387].text |
大概前一個月都已經知道是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].start |
25098.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].end |
25100.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8388].text |
包括新北、嘉義 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].start |
25100.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].end |
25102.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8389].text |
通通都已經有變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].start |
25102.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].end |
25104.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8390].text |
就是22縣市通通都已經是變成 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].start |
25104.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].end |
25108.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8391].text |
縣市來去營養午餐免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].start |
25108.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].end |
25111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8392].text |
那從1月份到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].start |
25111.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].end |
25113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8393].text |
已經將近到5個月的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].start |
25113.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].end |
25115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8394].text |
叫…我記得是彭署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].start |
25115.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].end |
25117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8395].text |
國家署這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].start |
25117.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].end |
25119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8396].text |
有跟…就一直在…當初就有說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].start |
25119.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].end |
25123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8397].text |
就是要跟地方政府要做的是協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].start |
25123.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].end |
25125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8398].text |
那在協商的過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].start |
25125.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].end |
25126.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8399].text |
我想這時間應該有些進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].start |
25126.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].end |
25128.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[8400].text |
可以請彭署長來做一下報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].start |
25129.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].end |
25131.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8401].text |
那第二個部分就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].start |
25131.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].end |
25133.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8402].text |
現在既然已經是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].start |
25133.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].end |
25135.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8403].text |
地方政府通通都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].start |
25135.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].end |
25137.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8404].text |
變成是營養午餐免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].start |
25137.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].end |
25139.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8405].text |
可是在有些部分的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].start |
25139.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].end |
25141.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8406].text |
會涉及到的是它的費用這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].start |
25141.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].end |
25143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8407].text |
我們…也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].start |
25143.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].end |
25145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8408].text |
它變成有些全國一致性的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].start |
25145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].end |
25147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8409].text |
除了費用之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].start |
25147.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].end |
25149.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8410].text |
那其實費用裡面最重要的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].start |
25149.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].end |
25151.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8411].text |
一個食材啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].start |
25151.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].end |
25153.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8412].text |
那食材部分可能像現在的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].start |
25153.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].end |
25155.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8413].text |
包括現在有的… |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].start |
25155.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].end |
25157.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8414].text |
草擬的版本當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].start |
25157.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].end |
25159.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8415].text |
也是由各縣市來去收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].start |
25159.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].end |
25161.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8416].text |
就是各家長等等收費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].start |
25161.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].end |
25163.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8417].text |
可是另外還有很重要的費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].start |
25163.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].end |
25165.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8418].text |
是在設備啦還有人力部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].start |
25165.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].end |
25167.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8419].text |
我想這部分可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].start |
25167.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].end |
25169.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8420].text |
看看交易部或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].start |
25169.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].end |
25171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8421].text |
現在目前的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].start |
25171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].end |
25173.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8422].text |
到底說這部分是不是也應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].start |
25173.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].end |
25175.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8423].text |
有一些統一的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].start |
25175.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].end |
25177.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8424].text |
是非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].start |
25177.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].end |
25179.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8425].text |
那第二個部分我剛才涉及到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].start |
25179.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].end |
25181.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8426].text |
人力部分就是包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].start |
25181.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].end |
25183.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8427].text |
午餐秘書、營養師、還有廚工 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].start |
25183.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].end |
25185.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8428].text |
他其實都應該有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].start |
25185.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].end |
25187.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8429].text |
相關的設置就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].start |
25187.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].end |
25189.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8430].text |
各縣市也許他們有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].start |
25189.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].end |
25191.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8431].text |
財力上面的差距但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].start |
25191.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].end |
25193.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8432].text |
在於對於說應該在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].start |
25193.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].end |
25195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8433].text |
什麼樣的規範當中就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].start |
25195.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].end |
25197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8434].text |
應該有相關的人力配置還包括 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].start |
25197.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].end |
25199.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8435].text |
設備的配置當中呢其實這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].start |
25199.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].end |
25201.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8436].text |
可能就會因為它的財力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].start |
25201.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].end |
25203.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8437].text |
差異性要由 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].start |
25203.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].end |
25205.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8438].text |
交易部來做統一規範因為每一個學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].start |
25205.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].end |
25207.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8439].text |
在各縣市的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].start |
25207.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].end |
25209.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8440].text |
所應該得到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].start |
25209.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].end |
25211.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8441].text |
一個營養跟他的健康的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].start |
25211.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].end |
25213.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8442].text |
品質的保障是一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].start |
25213.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].end |
25215.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8443].text |
所以這部分我建議是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].start |
25215.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].end |
25217.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8444].text |
交易部應該就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].start |
25217.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].end |
25219.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8445].text |
這個部分能夠提出來一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].start |
25219.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].end |
25221.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8446].text |
全國適用性的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].start |
25221.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].end |
25223.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8447].text |
或是說一個指引等等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].start |
25223.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].end |
25225.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8448].text |
但是因為透過我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].start |
25225.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].end |
25227.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8449].text |
要訂定的是一個營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].start |
25227.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].end |
25229.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8450].text |
整個這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].start |
25229.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].end |
25231.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8451].text |
這個算法嘛所以這部分我想是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].start |
25231.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].end |
25233.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8452].text |
交易部責無旁貸的工作要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].start |
25233.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].end |
25235.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8453].text |
進行那我會提供這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].start |
25235.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].end |
25237.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8454].text |
方向尤其是彭 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].start |
25237.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].end |
25239.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8455].text |
書長您已經在日本有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].start |
25239.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].end |
25241.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8456].text |
有去做考察了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].start |
25241.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].end |
25243.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8457].text |
那特別是你就是要說日本在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].start |
25243.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].end |
25245.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8458].text |
1968年就有這樣子的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].start |
25245.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].end |
25247.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8459].text |
午餐專法是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].start |
25247.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].end |
25249.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8460].text |
也可以就您的這個意見當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].start |
25249.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].end |
25251.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8461].text |
去提到說以日本的這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].start |
25251.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].end |
25253.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8462].text |
經驗來看他們對於全國 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].start |
25253.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].end |
25255.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8463].text |
一致性那尤其是本來日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].start |
25255.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].end |
25257.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8464].text |
他本來在1968年的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].start |
25257.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].end |
25259.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8465].text |
也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].start |
25260.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].end |
25262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8466].text |
也是有個別收費但是現在已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].start |
25262.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].end |
25264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8467].text |
變成東京都來趕花是全部的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].start |
25264.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].end |
25266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8468].text |
都變成午餐都已經免費了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].start |
25266.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].end |
25268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8469].text |
我想這樣一個經驗也可以給台灣做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].start |
25268.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].end |
25270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8470].text |
很重要的一個參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].start |
25270.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].end |
25272.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8471].text |
指教謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].start |
25273.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].end |
25275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8472].text |
謝謝書兵委員我想你也有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].start |
25275.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].end |
25277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8473].text |
了解日本的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].start |
25277.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].end |
25279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8474].text |
所以你也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].start |
25279.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].end |
25281.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8475].text |
那我們下一位剛剛吳思亞委員有舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].start |
25287.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].end |
25289.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[8476].text |
好好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].start |
25288.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].end |
25290.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[8477].text |
葉元之委員謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].start |
25292.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].end |
25294.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8478].text |
因為我們那個條文很多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].start |
25294.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].end |
25296.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8479].text |
但是上一次開會的時候其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].start |
25296.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].end |
25298.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8480].text |
也會往前推進啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].start |
25298.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].end |
25300.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8481].text |
尤其像我們現在是要討論到第三條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].start |
25300.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].end |
25302.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8482].text |
以我的條文就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].start |
25302.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].end |
25304.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8483].text |
希望各級主管機關跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].start |
25304.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].end |
25306.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8484].text |
學校可以訂定計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].start |
25306.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].end |
25308.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8485].text |
那為什麼要訂定計畫就是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].start |
25308.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].end |
25310.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[8486].text |
在營養午餐這個可以更 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].start |
25310.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].end |
25312.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8487].text |
做得更好嘛那大家都是為了這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].start |
25312.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].end |
25314.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8488].text |
營養午餐學生好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].start |
25314.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].end |
25316.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8489].text |
吃的健康吃的營養啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].start |
25316.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].end |
25318.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8490].text |
然後甚至於食農教育其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].start |
25318.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].end |
25320.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8491].text |
所以其實如果繼續討論的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].start |
25320.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].end |
25322.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8492].text |
還是可以往前推進那當然我們也 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].start |
25322.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].end |
25324.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8493].text |
尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].start |
25324.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].end |
25326.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8494].text |
吳思亞委員他的動議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].start |
25326.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].end |
25328.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8495].text |
這個也是他的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].start |
25328.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].end |
25330.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8496].text |
只是說可以請吳思亞委員再想一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].start |
25330.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].end |
25332.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8497].text |
然後第二個剛剛吳佩儀委員講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].start |
25332.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].end |
25334.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8498].text |
是建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].start |
25334.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].end |
25336.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8499].text |
行政機關跟地方政府討論完 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].start |
25336.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].end |
25338.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8500].text |
討論完之後再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].start |
25338.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].end |
25340.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8501].text |
但我覺得如果是這樣的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].start |
25340.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].end |
25342.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8502].text |
也要請行政機關壓一個日期啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].start |
25342.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].end |
25344.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8503].text |
不然的話每一次都用這個理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].start |
25344.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].end |
25346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8504].text |
然後不開會不討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].start |
25346.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].end |
25348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8505].text |
那一下時間就過了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].start |
25348.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].end |
25350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8506].text |
所以等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].start |
25350.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].end |
25352.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8507].text |
可不可以請行政機關說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].start |
25352.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].end |
25354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8508].text |
假設等一下要散會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].start |
25354.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].end |
25356.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8509].text |
已經有委員提散會動議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].start |
25356.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].end |
25358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8510].text |
假設要散會的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].start |
25358.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].end |
25360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8511].text |
那行政機關什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].start |
25360.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].end |
25362.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8512].text |
可以跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].start |
25362.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].end |
25364.19 |
| transcript.whisperx[8513].text |
各縣市政府討論好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].start |
25365.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].end |
25367.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8514].text |
討論好一個比較明確的共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].start |
25367.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].end |
25369.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8515].text |
再來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].start |
25369.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].end |
25371.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8516].text |
把這個講清楚大家比較好做決定啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].start |
25371.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].end |
25373.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[8517].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].start |
25375.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].end |
25377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8518].text |
我們下一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].start |
25377.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].end |
25379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8519].text |
好劉書斌委員請等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].start |
25379.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].end |
25381.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8520].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].start |
25381.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].end |
25383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8521].text |
陳佩玉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].start |
25383.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].end |
25385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8522].text |
對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].start |
25385.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].end |
25387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8523].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].start |
25387.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].end |
25389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8524].text |
其實我們剛剛回憶到上一次討論是11月 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].start |
25389.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].end |
25391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8525].text |
那剛剛劉書斌委員有講了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].start |
25391.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].end |
25393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8526].text |
時間點我覺得那個時間點 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].start |
25393.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].end |
25395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8527].text |
現在看起來我覺得很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].start |
25395.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].end |
25397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8528].text |
就是從1月份開始由 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].start |
25397.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].end |
25399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8529].text |
某一個縣市開始宣布一樣午餐免費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].start |
25399.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].end |
25401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8530].text |
之後我認為到目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].start |
25401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].end |
25403.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8531].text |
為止其實國教署也好或是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].start |
25403.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].end |
25405.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8532].text |
各自要面對的其實不是只有食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[8533].start |
25405.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8533].end |
25407.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8533].text |
健不健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[8534].start |
25407.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8534].end |
25409.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8534].text |
也不是只有食農教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[8535].start |
25409.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8535].end |
25411.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8535].text |
營養教育要不要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[8536].start |
25411.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8536].end |
25413.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8536].text |
因為這個試設的成本很少 |
| transcript.whisperx[8537].start |
25413.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8537].end |
25415.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8537].text |
成本大部分來自哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[8538].start |
25415.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8538].end |
25417.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8538].text |
來自於所有的營養午餐食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].start |
25417.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].end |
25419.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8539].text |
還有所有的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].start |
25419.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].end |
25421.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8540].text |
那目前為止據我所知喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].start |
25421.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].end |
25423.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8541].text |
就我們辦公室一直在跟相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8542].start |
25423.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8542].end |
25425.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8542].text |
老師們家長團體們討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].start |
25425.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].end |
25427.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[8543].text |
其實最大的困境是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].start |
25426.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].end |
25428.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8544].text |
以台北市我的孩子所在台北市為例 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].start |
25428.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].end |
25430.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8545].text |
現在如果台北市綁定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].start |
25430.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].end |
25432.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8546].text |
是75塊或是73塊90塊都好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].start |
25432.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].end |
25434.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8547].text |
但是如果個別的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].start |
25434.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].end |
25436.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8548].text |
學校家長會對於這個費用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].start |
25436.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].end |
25438.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8549].text |
或是對於相關的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].start |
25438.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].end |
25440.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8550].text |
是有疑義的過去在個別學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].start |
25440.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].end |
25442.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8551].text |
招標各自學校可以決定的情況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].start |
25442.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].end |
25444.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8552].text |
其實家長會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].start |
25444.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].end |
25446.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8553].text |
還有學生的權利跟聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].start |
25446.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].end |
25448.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8554].text |
是很清晰的但是現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].start |
25448.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].end |
25450.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8555].text |
一旦變成所有的地方縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].start |
25450.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].end |
25452.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8556].text |
都是所謂大甲方的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].start |
25452.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].end |
25454.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[8557].text |
其實我認為很多的問題根本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].start |
25454.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].end |
25456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8558].text |
都還沒有討論清楚包含我剛剛說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].start |
25456.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].end |
25458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8559].text |
那個費用的拆分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].start |
25458.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].end |
25460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8560].text |
那那個費用光是國產食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].start |
25460.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].end |
25462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8561].text |
三張EQ這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].start |
25462.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].end |
25464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8562].text |
我相信都還有很多事情要討論喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].start |
25464.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].end |
25466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8563].text |
甚至之前我們還有發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].start |
25466.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].end |
25468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8564].text |
有的縣市食材登錄平台是不是也沒有要再用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].start |
25468.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].end |
25470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8565].text |
甚至有些縣市開始把某一些食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].start |
25470.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].end |
25472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8566].text |
給拿掉了國產食材拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].start |
25472.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].end |
25474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8567].text |
其實這都是所有今天在場 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].start |
25474.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].end |
25476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8568].text |
會參與營養午餐的委員所擔心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].start |
25476.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].end |
25478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8569].text |
所以我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].start |
25478.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].end |
25480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8570].text |
如同剛剛有委員建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].start |
25480.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].end |
25482.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[8571].text |
是不是讓國教署這邊先花一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].start |
25483.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].end |
25485.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8572].text |
說明從各縣市宣布免費營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].start |
25485.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].end |
25487.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8573].text |
到目前為止喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].start |
25487.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].end |
25489.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8574].text |
這四五個月期間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].start |
25489.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].end |
25491.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8575].text |
各個縣市政府現在到底收集回來狀況有哪些 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].start |
25491.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].end |
25493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8576].text |
那還需要地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].start |
25493.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].end |
25495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8577].text |
跟中央政府討論的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].start |
25495.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].end |
25497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8578].text |
還有哪些還有我們剛剛說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].start |
25497.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].end |
25499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8579].text |
不論是食材登錄平台或是三張EQ |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].start |
25499.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].end |
25501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8580].text |
或是儲公的人力、營養師的人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].start |
25501.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].end |
25503.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8581].text |
或是食農教育後續的分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].start |
25503.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].end |
25505.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8582].text |
因為我要請大家注意喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].start |
25505.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].end |
25507.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8583].text |
當時在喊營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].start |
25507.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].end |
25509.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8584].text |
修法的時候其實沒有那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].start |
25509.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].end |
25511.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[8585].text |
縣市是用 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].start |
25511.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].end |
25513.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8586].text |
所謂免費的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].start |
25513.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].end |
25515.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8587].text |
所以每一個家長所繳的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].start |
25515.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].end |
25517.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8588].text |
在學校來說它叫做代辦費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].start |
25517.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].end |
25519.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8589].text |
但是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].start |
25519.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].end |
25521.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8590].text |
代辦費這三個字不可能再出現囉 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].start |
25521.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].end |
25523.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8591].text |
因為所謂大的甲方就叫做各縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].start |
25523.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].end |
25525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8592].text |
所以如果我們現在沒有搞清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].start |
25525.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].end |
25527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8593].text |
各縣市政府跟中央 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].start |
25527.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].end |
25529.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8594].text |
教育部這邊合作狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].start |
25529.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].end |
25531.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8595].text |
或是還有期益的狀況還有分歧的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].start |
25531.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].end |
25533.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8596].text |
我覺得我們一條一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].start |
25533.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].end |
25535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8597].text |
審下去會非常的荒謬、可笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].start |
25535.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].end |
25537.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8598].text |
因為所有地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].start |
25537.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].end |
25539.17 |
| transcript.whisperx[8599].text |
他們今天不可能有時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].start |
25539.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].end |
25541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8600].text |
在線上聽直播 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].start |
25541.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].end |
25543.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8601].text |
但是如果我們立法院硬要通過的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].start |
25543.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].end |
25545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8602].text |
到後來是各地方縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].start |
25545.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].end |
25547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8603].text |
沒有辦法承擔、沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].start |
25547.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].end |
25549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8604].text |
負荷的可能是人力、可能是資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].start |
25549.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].end |
25551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8605].text |
可能是財力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].start |
25551.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].end |
25553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8606].text |
那該怎麼辦?而且不要忘記了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].start |
25553.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].end |
25555.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8607].text |
當各個縣市都是用免費的方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].start |
25555.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].end |
25557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8608].text |
在照顧孩子們的營養午餐的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].start |
25557.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].end |
25559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8609].text |
還有地區的差異 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].start |
25559.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].end |
25561.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8610].text |
天箱的差異而這些該怎麼辦? |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].start |
25561.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].end |
25563.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8611].text |
前一輪在蘇院長的時代 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].start |
25563.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].end |
25565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8612].text |
好不容易用各個地方的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].start |
25565.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].end |
25567.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[8613].text |
營養午餐的廚房解決了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].start |
25567.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].end |
25569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8614].text |
好像吃得比較不好的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].start |
25569.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].end |
25571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8615].text |
好不容易我們的國產食材 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].start |
25571.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].end |
25573.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8616].text |
也都99%進入孩子們的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].start |
25573.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].end |
25575.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8617].text |
而那個時候的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].start |
25575.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].end |
25577.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8618].text |
跟現在截然的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].start |
25577.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].end |
25579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8619].text |
我想在進行主調之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].start |
25579.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].end |
25581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8620].text |
還是要拜託主席是不是就給教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].start |
25581.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].end |
25583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8621].text |
國教署多一些時間來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].start |
25583.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].end |
25585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8622].text |
現在所收集到的一些狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].start |
25585.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].end |
25587.73 |
| transcript.whisperx[8623].text |
好,以上,謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].start |
25588.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].end |
25589.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8624].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].start |
25590.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].end |
25593.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8625].text |
不好意思,他剛剛有先舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].start |
25594.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].end |
25596.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8626].text |
你第二輪了嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].start |
25597.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].end |
25597.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[8627].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].start |
25598.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].end |
25599.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8628].text |
國衛生委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].start |
25600.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].end |
25602.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8629].text |
我相信大家都非常重視 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].start |
25602.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].end |
25604.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8630].text |
這個學校營養午餐的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].start |
25604.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].end |
25606.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8631].text |
那我們當然也希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].start |
25606.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].end |
25608.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8632].text |
能夠建立全國一致的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].start |
25608.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].end |
25610.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8633].text |
一個公餐的體系 |
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來保障孩子們在學校 |
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營養午餐攝取的時候的 |
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健康跟安全 |
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不過大家都知道從台北市宣布 |
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營養午餐免費之後 |
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各個縣市的福利競賽 |
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就展開了 |
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包含現在其實總共 |
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又有12個縣市其實 |
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他們也就是推動這個 |
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免費的營養午餐的這樣子的一個政策 |
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可是 |
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我想這個當然是一個 |
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美意然後減輕這個家長們 |
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的一個負擔不過中央跟地方 |
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之間的一個溝通 |
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到底到什麼樣的一個程度 |
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那大家都會說這個免費 |
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的最貴那我們當然也 |
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擔心這個免費的午餐 |
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可能衍生之後的一些問題 |
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像近期大家都知道像台中 |
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就發生了30個學生要平均 |
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分9顆貢丸 |
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那還要抽籤才能決定誰能吃 |
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那這個公平性的一個問題 |
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那台北市的國中 |
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他們可能一餐是 |
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75塊錢那其他的縣市也許是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8663].start |
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50等等 |
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這個不一樣的一個標準 |
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25675.76 |
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那會不會有公平性的問題還有 |
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所謂的這個剩食的一個黑洞 |
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25679.76 |
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還有人力分配的一個失衡的一個狀況 |
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我想這個中央有沒有來做 |
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跟地方上的一個盤點 |
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跟追蹤那到 |
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25688.4 |
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目前為止其實我們可能還是 |
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25690.4 |
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需要再跟更多的這個地方 |
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來做溝通那才 |
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25694.4 |
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劃法之前跟才劃法之後 |
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25694.4 |
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25696.4 |
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其實像這樣子的一個問題 |
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25698.4 |
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地方的這個事權到底分配 |
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的部分就是 |
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25702.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[8678].text |
錢拿走了但是問題是他們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8679].start |
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25704.4 |
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這個事權的部分有沒有一起來分擔 |
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那我想這個部分其實也是 |
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我們會有一些 |
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25710.4 |
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考量那如果在這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[8683].start |
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都還沒有特別的 |
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25714.4 |
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一些最新的一個追蹤的 |
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25715.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].end |
25717.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8685].text |
如果今天要進入這樣的一個主條 |
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25717.04 |
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25719.04 |
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我相信應該又會像剛剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].start |
25719.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].end |
25721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8687].text |
其實我們那個學貸算法一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].start |
25721.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].end |
25723.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8688].text |
即使大家的方向一致但最後還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8689].start |
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25725.04 |
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又是保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].start |
25725.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].end |
25727.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8690].text |
那我覺得這個時間上的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].start |
25727.04 |
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25729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8691].text |
意義可能真的就比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].start |
25729.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].end |
25731.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8692].text |
比較沒有這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].start |
25731.04 |
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25733.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[8693].text |
一個共識啦 以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].start |
25740.12 |
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25742.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8694].text |
郭 吳市長委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].start |
25742.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].end |
25744.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8695].text |
我想我們這個程序的動力 |
| transcript.whisperx[8696].start |
25744.12 |
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25746.12 |
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也是要優先處理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].start |
25746.12 |
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25748.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8697].text |
但我們還是要說明清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].start |
25748.12 |
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25750.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8698].text |
也比較不好意思 |
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因為我在場可能是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8700].end |
25754.12 |
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比較資深一點點就是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].start |
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25756.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8701].text |
介事比較多其實我是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].start |
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25758.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[8702].text |
立法院第一個提一案五三專法的立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8703].start |
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但是這兩屆以來 |
| transcript.whisperx[8704].start |
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25764.27 |
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有很多新生的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].start |
25764.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].end |
25767.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8705].text |
第一個就是才幻法的修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].start |
25768.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].end |
25770.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8706].text |
中央跟地方的裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].start |
25770.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].end |
25772.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8707].text |
有一個翻天覆地的改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].start |
25772.2 |
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25774.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8708].text |
所以中央原本來補助地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].start |
25774.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].end |
25776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8709].text |
不管三張EQ |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].start |
25776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].end |
25778.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8710].text |
不管是偏鄉不管是弱勢孩童 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8711].end |
25780.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8711].text |
每年撥補的74億 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].start |
25780.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].end |
25782.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8712].text |
現在的狀況嬰兒才華法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8713].start |
25782.2 |
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25784.2 |
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就改變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].start |
25784.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].end |
25786.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8714].text |
移給地方之後 |
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25788.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8715].text |
現在22個縣市從才華法前後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].start |
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25790.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8716].text |
修才華法前有10個縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].start |
25790.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].end |
25792.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8717].text |
自行地方買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].start |
25792.43 |
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25794.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8718].text |
全額地方補貼 |
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25796.43 |
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到修才華法後又有12個縣市加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[8720].start |
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25798.43 |
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所以整個 |
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25800.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8721].text |
財政的狀況跟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].start |
25800.43 |
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25802.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8722].text |
學校營養午餐現場的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].start |
25802.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].end |
25804.43 |
| transcript.whisperx[8723].text |
執行狀況也不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].start |
25805.27 |
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25807.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8724].text |
另外還有一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[8725].start |
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25809.27 |
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當然也是 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8726].end |
25811.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8726].text |
營養午餐大家我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].start |
25811.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].end |
25813.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8727].text |
不斷的跟地方在地的團體 |
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25815.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8728].text |
溝通對話之後 |
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25815.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].end |
25817.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8729].text |
大家有一些新生的事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].start |
25817.27 |
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25819.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8730].text |
認為還需要再 |
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25819.27 |
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25821.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8731].text |
精進跟研議 |
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25823.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8732].text |
教育部原本我們都期待教育部要有布辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].start |
25824.56 |
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25826.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8733].text |
這是重要的一個法案 |
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朝野都很重視 |
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25830.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8735].text |
那我所知道教育部的布辦也修了六次七次 |
| transcript.whisperx[8736].start |
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25832.56 |
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只是真的因為才華法上路之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].start |
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25834.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8737].text |
而又 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8738].end |
25836.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8738].text |
stop了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[8739].end |
25838.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8739].text |
所以這件事情需要中央跟地方 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8740].end |
25840.56 |
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好好再溝通好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].start |
25840.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].end |
25842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8741].text |
所以我們立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].start |
25842.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[8742].end |
25844.56 |
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我們修法不能夠 |
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自外於中央的 |
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財政跟地方的執行 |
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25848.56 |
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25850.56 |
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現場的狀況我們不能無視 |
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25850.56 |
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所以說為了法案好 |
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討論也要有品質 |
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討論也希望能夠聚焦 |
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25857.2 |
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那顯然就前面的會期討論 |
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光明稱 |
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25863.62 |
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25865.62 |
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光明稱 |
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25865.62 |
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25867.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8752].text |
光明稱 |
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25867.62 |
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25869.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8753].text |
光明稱 |
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25869.62 |
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25871.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8754].text |
光明稱 |
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25871.62 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8755].text |
光明稱 |
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25873.62 |
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25875.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8756].text |
光明稱 |
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25875.62 |
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25877.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8757].text |
光明稱 |
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25877.62 |
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25879.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8758].text |
光明稱 |
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25879.62 |
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25881.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8759].text |
光明稱 |
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25881.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].end |
25883.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8760].text |
光明稱 |
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25883.62 |
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25885.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8761].text |
光明稱 |
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25885.62 |
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25887.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8762].text |
光明稱 |
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25887.62 |
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25889.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8763].text |
光明稱 |
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25889.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].end |
25891.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[8764].text |
光明稱 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].start |
25877.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].end |
25879.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[8765].text |
如果沒有國家的預算我們怎麼有支應地方 |
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25882.15 |
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25884.79 |
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營養午餐的費用呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].start |
25885.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8767].end |
25887.11 |
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所以還是我們的修正動議是真的也覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[8768].start |
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不對不起 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].start |
25889.11 |
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25891.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8769].text |
我們的那個程序上的動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].start |
25891.11 |
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25893.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8770].text |
請主席能夠來處理 |
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25893.11 |
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25895.11 |
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我們都希望讓法案有品質的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].start |
25895.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].end |
25897.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8772].text |
然後審預算還是我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].start |
25897.11 |
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25899.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8773].text |
眼前最重要的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].start |
25899.11 |
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25901.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[8774].text |
這是上會期就要交的作業 |
| transcript.whisperx[8775].start |
25901.11 |
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25903.11 |
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我們這會期要趕快來趕進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8776].start |
25903.11 |
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25905.11 |
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我想大家都有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].start |
25905.78 |
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25907.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8777].text |
補充報告一下還是跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[8778].start |
25907.78 |
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25909.78 |
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我們下個禮拜就要審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8779].start |
25909.78 |
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25911.78 |
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所以現階段 |
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25911.78 |
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25913.78 |
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已經在排的議程我希望大家就尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[8781].start |
25913.78 |
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25915.78 |
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我尊重你說要審預算 |
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25915.78 |
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25917.78 |
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我下禮拜就會排 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].start |
25917.78 |
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25919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8783].text |
可是我現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].start |
25919.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].end |
25921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8784].text |
不讓我討論說要審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].start |
25921.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[8785].end |
25923.78 |
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那我們現在是不是待會再提一個臨時動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[8786].start |
25926.22 |
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25928.86 |
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我們這個休息 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].start |
25930.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].end |
25932.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8787].text |
我們現在馬上審預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].start |
25932.1 |
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25934.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8788].text |
也做不出來阿 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].start |
25934.1 |
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25936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8789].text |
醫事人員就是等下個禮拜嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].start |
25936.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].end |
25938.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8790].text |
所以我要拜託大家現在是排 |
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25938.1 |
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25940.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8791].text |
營養午餐就聚焦在營養午餐好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8792].start |
25943.71 |
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25945.71 |
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我有我的排法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8793].start |
25945.71 |
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25947.71 |
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所以你們又要再講那我又要提到武麗華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].start |
25947.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].end |
25949.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8794].text |
你有沒有好奇這三周 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].start |
25949.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].end |
25951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8795].text |
都是我來當召委為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].start |
25951.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].end |
25953.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8796].text |
因為講好換好時間嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].start |
25953.71 |
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25955.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8797].text |
那你們換了你們先審 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].start |
25955.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].end |
25957.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8798].text |
然後我換到後面我再來審 |
| transcript.whisperx[8799].start |
25957.71 |
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25959.71 |
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結果講好了然後結果我排到後面突然又說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].start |
25959.71 |
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25961.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[8800].text |
你不審預算我跟你換時間欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].start |
25965.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].end |
25967.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8801].text |
這一周排有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].start |
25967.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].end |
25969.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8802].text |
他們說要因意思路 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].start |
25969.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].end |
25971.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8803].text |
叫我等一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].start |
25971.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].end |
25973.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8804].text |
不要這樣子啦就真的有要排嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].start |
25976.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].end |
25978.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8805].text |
我就覺得說我連跟你換個時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].start |
25978.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].end |
25980.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8806].text |
結果你後面都要搞我 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].start |
25980.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].end |
25982.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8807].text |
說哎呀你都不排預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].start |
25982.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].end |
25984.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8808].text |
結果我前三周讓你當召委後三周我當召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].start |
25984.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].end |
25986.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8809].text |
我後三周在處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].start |
25986.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].end |
25988.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8810].text |
拜託啦齁 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].start |
25990.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].end |
25993.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[8811].text |
那個陳秀寶委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].start |
25995.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].end |
25997.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8812].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].start |
25997.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].end |
25999.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8813].text |
其實我原本都非常的關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].start |
25999.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].end |
26001.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8814].text |
我們的孩子在學校一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].start |
26001.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].end |
26003.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8815].text |
午餐的問題我自己本身也有提我的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].start |
26003.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].end |
26005.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8816].text |
但是剛才有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].start |
26005.27 |
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26007.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8817].text |
在問教育部說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].start |
26007.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].end |
26009.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8818].text |
好啊那你跟地方溝通你什麼時候可以溝通好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].start |
26009.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].end |
26011.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8819].text |
其實跟地方溝通不管是經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].start |
26011.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].end |
26013.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[8820].text |
還是事權這個分攤不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].start |
26014.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].end |
26016.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8821].text |
教育部很認真去溝通地方就一定給 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].start |
26016.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].end |
26018.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8822].text |
結論一定給回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].start |
26018.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].end |
26020.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8823].text |
今天他去跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].start |
26020.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].end |
26022.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8824].text |
縣市政府的教育處教育局說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].start |
26022.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].end |
26024.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8825].text |
那教育處教育局還是兩手一攤說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].start |
26024.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].end |
26026.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8826].text |
我可能沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].start |
26026.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].end |
26028.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8827].text |
那就停頓了你必須再找時間再去 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].start |
26028.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].end |
26030.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8828].text |
講一次這不是教育部 |
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26030.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].end |
26032.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8829].text |
覺得說我今天來跟你談就一定有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].start |
26032.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].end |
26034.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8830].text |
結果可以帶回來所以你要告訴 |
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26034.46 |
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26036.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8831].text |
你要教育部講出來說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].start |
26036.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].end |
26038.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8832].text |
你什麼時候可以溝通完成你什麼時候可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].start |
26038.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].end |
26040.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8833].text |
跟各縣市政府的教育處教育局講好 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].start |
26040.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].end |
26042.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[8834].text |
這個不是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].start |
26043.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].end |
26045.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8835].text |
所以教育部是沒有辦法去掌握到這個進度 |
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26045.1 |
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26047.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8836].text |
所以他們很努力的在做這個部分的 |
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26047.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8837].end |
26049.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8837].text |
協商很努力的在做這個討論 |
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26049.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].end |
26051.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8838].text |
但是只要縣市政府他們 |
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26051.1 |
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26053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8839].text |
沒有給出他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].start |
26053.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].end |
26055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8840].text |
要做的整個章程 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].start |
26055.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].end |
26057.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8841].text |
沒有給出他們要做的整個分攤的承諾的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].start |
26057.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].end |
26059.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8842].text |
那其實教育部是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].start |
26059.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].end |
26061.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8843].text |
辦法得到這個樣子結論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].start |
26061.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].end |
26063.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8844].text |
所以其實雖然 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].start |
26063.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].end |
26065.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8845].text |
我們在這個彩化法之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].start |
26065.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].end |
26067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8846].text |
已經有十個縣市包括我自己的彰化縣 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].start |
26067.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].end |
26069.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8847].text |
就是已經免費的提供一樣午餐了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].start |
26069.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].end |
26071.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[8848].text |
那在彩化法之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].start |
26071.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].end |
26073.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[8849].text |
很多縣市也覺得說他們是有把握 |
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26073.74 |
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就是可以來這樣子處理之後 |
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他們也都陸續的宣布說他們的 |
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營養午餐的政策就是可以 |
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每份提供給孩童 |
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26083.74 |
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那這樣子的情況之下 |
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到底這相關的事權 |
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26085.74 |
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26087.74 |
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到底相關的這個怎麼處理 |
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怎麼大家去分攤比例其實 |
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其實政府我想還沒有 |
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很明確的給出他們 |
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教育部這邊可以 |
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覺得說是很有把握的 |
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這樣子的回應的時候 |
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其實我們在這個時候來審我們來 |
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去討論說我們在法規裡面 |
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法條裡面所規範的 |
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每一個部分其實也很難 |
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有一個很正確的 |
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一個這個定論那 |
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尤其剛才我們在 |
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審我們學代的 |
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這個部分的話其實 |
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這麼有共識的情況之下 |
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還是要送保留那我想我們今天 |
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26125.94 |
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針對我們的營養午餐我們的學校午餐 |
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26125.94 |
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在在討論的 |
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過程裡面是不是也可能就是 |
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即便是非常的相近 |
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已經大家覺得說是同樣的方向了 |
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26135.94 |
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但是也可能因為是文字上 |
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還是大家的想法上 |
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26139.94 |
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有一點出入然後又把它送保留 |
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26139.94 |
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26141.94 |
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就這樣子的效率 |
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26141.94 |
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26143.94 |
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我覺得也不是很 |
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在這個整個 |
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26147.94 |
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法條的討論上是有進度可言 |
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26149.94 |
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所以這邊我也不應我們 |
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26150.58 |
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26152.58 |
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思想委員提的這個散會動議如果是大家 |
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沒有 |
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哲奇在審對不起 |
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哲奇在審因為如果說 |
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26158.6 |
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沒有在這個方面 |
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很明確共識我們可能就是跟像剛剛一樣 |
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雖然大家的方向很接近了 |
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大家的意思已經很接近了 |
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26167.19 |
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26169.19 |
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但是 |
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26171.91 |
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還是保留 |
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26173.91 |
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那既然一直要送保留每一條都保留 |
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永遠都在原地 |
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26177.91 |
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其實也不會有進展的 |
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26179.91 |
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謝謝 |
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26179.91 |
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26181.91 |
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謝謝委員都還沒有討論就說一定會保留 |
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26181.91 |
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26183.91 |
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我們也試試看嘛 |
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26183.91 |
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26185.91 |
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我們最後 |
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26185.5 |
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26187.5 |
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法不一樣嘛大家討論看看嘛 |
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26187.5 |
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26189.5 |
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今天我連一條都還沒進去 |
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26189.5 |
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討論的時候你馬上就說 |
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一定會保留 |
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26195.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8908].text |
這個我覺得太強人所難 |
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26195.5 |
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26197.5 |
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那最後我來宣告啦 |
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26197.5 |
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26199.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[8910].text |
劉淑冰委員羅志強委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8911].start |
26199.5 |
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26201.5 |
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羅庭薇委員發言完畢 |
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26201.5 |
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26203.5 |
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以後我們就處理動議 |
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26203.5 |
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26205.5 |
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以上謝謝 |
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26205.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].end |
26207.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8914].text |
謝謝主席我剛才在第一回合 |
| transcript.whisperx[8915].start |
26207.87 |
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26209.87 |
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發言的時候已經有提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8916].start |
26209.87 |
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26211.87 |
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現在22個縣市都 |
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26211.87 |
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26213.87 |
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已經說營養午餐要免費了 |
| transcript.whisperx[8918].start |
26213.87 |
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26215.87 |
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那但是對於有一個非常 |
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26215.87 |
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26217.87 |
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大的兩個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].start |
26217.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].end |
26219.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8920].text |
時間壓力是在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].start |
26219.87 |
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26221.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8921].text |
下一個學年度 |
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26221.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].end |
26223.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8922].text |
真正開學在9月可是真的學年度 |
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26223.87 |
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26225.87 |
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開始是從8月1號開始 |
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26225.87 |
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26227.87 |
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8個月要開始到距離現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8925].start |
26227.87 |
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26229.87 |
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就是不到2個月時間 |
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26229.87 |
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26231.87 |
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那2個月時間 |
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26231.87 |
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26233.87 |
| transcript.whisperx[8927].text |
就有那個必要性在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].start |
26234.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].end |
26236.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8928].text |
要趕快就新的學年度開始的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].start |
26236.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].end |
26238.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[8929].text |
應該就 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].start |
26239.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].end |
26241.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8930].text |
有一些全國一致性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].start |
26241.13 |
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26243.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8931].text |
內容包括的是飲食教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].start |
26243.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].end |
26245.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8932].text |
要怎麼要怎麼在進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].start |
26245.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].end |
26247.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8933].text |
還包括的是對人力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].start |
26247.13 |
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26249.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8934].text |
部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].start |
26249.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].end |
26251.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[8935].text |
廚工營養師舞弊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].start |
26251.94 |
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26253.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8936].text |
怎麼樣的去有一定的架構 |
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26253.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].end |
26255.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8937].text |
怎麼樣的規範這也是要進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].start |
26255.94 |
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26257.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8938].text |
好那第二個部分 |
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26257.94 |
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26259.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8939].text |
有個時間壓力在於說現在 |
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26259.94 |
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26261.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8940].text |
已經進到6月了我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].start |
26263.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].end |
26265.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[8941].text |
就要編定116年度的 |
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26268.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].end |
26270.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8942].text |
預算了所以 |
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26270.24 |
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26272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8943].text |
這部分也是因為才化法已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].start |
26272.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].end |
26274.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8944].text |
確定了的確地方的 |
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26274.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].end |
26276.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8945].text |
政府他的裁員是多了但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8946].start |
26276.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8946].end |
26278.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[8946].text |
在於有些部分在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[8947].start |
26279.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[8947].end |
26282.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[8947].text |
偏鄉的低收入戶的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8948].start |
26282.9 |
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26284.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8948].text |
這些需要過去在 |
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26284.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8949].end |
26286.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8949].text |
由中央在補助的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8950].start |
26286.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8950].end |
26288.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8950].text |
可是這些部分是不是因為 |
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| transcript.whisperx[8951].end |
26290.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8951].text |
地方政府的裁員政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[8952].start |
26290.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8952].end |
26292.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8952].text |
他是有沒有cover到這些部分 |
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26292.9 |
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26294.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8953].text |
並沒有做相關的規定 |
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26294.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8954].end |
26296.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8954].text |
所以這邊我還是覺得 |
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26296.9 |
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26298.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8955].text |
等一下如果有什麼樣的一個上會動議之前 |
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26298.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8956].end |
26300.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8956].text |
可能還是要請 |
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26300.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8957].end |
26302.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8957].text |
國教署國前署這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[8958].start |
26302.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8958].end |
26304.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8958].text |
應該針對從去年 |
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26304.9 |
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年底或是從今年年初到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8960].start |
26306.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8960].end |
26308.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8960].text |
現在4 5個月以來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8961].start |
26308.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8961].end |
26310.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[8961].text |
對跟地方政府他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[8962].start |
26311.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8962].end |
26313.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8962].text |
協商的過程絕對沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[8963].start |
26313.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8963].end |
26315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8963].text |
可能是這通過的動靜啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[8964].start |
26315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8964].end |
26317.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8964].text |
就是就他們現在已經了解到 |
| transcript.whisperx[8965].start |
26317.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8965].end |
26319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8965].text |
已經溝通的部分要做一個先做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[8966].start |
26319.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8966].end |
26321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8966].text |
事實上面的一個了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[8967].start |
26321.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8967].end |
26323.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8967].text |
之後我們才知道下一部 |
| transcript.whisperx[8968].start |
26323.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8968].end |
26325.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8968].text |
甚至今天如果做一些什麼上會 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].start |
26325.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].end |
26327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8969].text |
動議或什麼之類的都要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].start |
26327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].end |
26329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8970].text |
那下一步要開會之前我剛才已經 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].start |
26329.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].end |
26331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8971].text |
提出來了兩個時間性就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].start |
26331.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].end |
26333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8972].text |
要編項年度總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[8973].start |
26333.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8973].end |
26335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8973].text |
第二部分是新的選項度就要開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].start |
26335.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].end |
26337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8974].text |
這兩個時間壓力是非常大的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].start |
26337.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].end |
26339.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[8975].text |
就應該要對說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].start |
26340.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].end |
26342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8976].text |
所以事實上我們在7月底之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].start |
26342.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].end |
26344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8977].text |
應該有對有些想法做法出現 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].start |
26344.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].end |
26346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8978].text |
那在這種情況下是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].start |
26346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].end |
26348.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8979].text |
要請國前署這邊要針對說 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].start |
26348.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].end |
26350.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8980].text |
下一次的有些方向的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].start |
26350.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].end |
26352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8981].text |
是不是能夠在這次會議當中有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].start |
26352.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].end |
26354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8982].text |
指引讓他們方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].start |
26354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].end |
26356.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8983].text |
委員會要做審議的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].start |
26356.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].end |
26358.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[8984].text |
有更明確的進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].start |
26358.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].end |
26360.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[8985].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].start |
26364.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].end |
26366.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8986].text |
在 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].start |
26366.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].end |
26368.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[8987].text |
羅志祥委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].start |
26374.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].end |
26376.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8988].text |
不羈魁步無以自遷離 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].start |
26376.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].end |
26378.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8989].text |
那當然每個法案的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].start |
26378.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].end |
26380.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8990].text |
討論都有他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].start |
26380.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].end |
26382.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8991].text |
溝通的困難性 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].start |
26382.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].end |
26384.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8992].text |
但法案的溝通跟審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].start |
26384.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].end |
26386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8993].text |
不就是一步一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].start |
26386.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].end |
26388.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8994].text |
的慢慢的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].start |
26388.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].end |
26390.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8995].text |
然後最後達成目標嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].start |
26390.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].end |
26392.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8996].text |
就像今天我們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].start |
26392.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].end |
26394.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8997].text |
營養午餐的專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].start |
26394.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].end |
26396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8998].text |
事實上上個會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].start |
26396.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].end |
26398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[8999].text |
就已經有一些進展了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].start |
26398.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].end |
26400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9000].text |
進展就是一個好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].start |
26400.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].end |
26402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9001].text |
開端那今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].start |
26402.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].end |
26404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9002].text |
我們就繼續讓他有進展 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].start |
26404.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].end |
26406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9003].text |
那慢慢的就會把它完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].start |
26406.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].end |
26408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9004].text |
那所以今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].start |
26408.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].end |
26410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9005].text |
既然我們的本來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].start |
26410.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].end |
26412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9006].text |
這個會議結束時間是五點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].start |
26412.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].end |
26414.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9007].text |
你居然多討論一條兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].start |
26414.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].end |
26416.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9008].text |
都是往前走一步兩步啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].start |
26416.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].end |
26418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9009].text |
可是當然還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].start |
26418.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].end |
26420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9010].text |
我要強調啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].start |
26420.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].end |
26422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9011].text |
我當然是希望說能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].start |
26422.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].end |
26424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9012].text |
這個三會動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].start |
26424.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].end |
26426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9013].text |
可以先收回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].start |
26426.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].end |
26428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9014].text |
讓我們能夠討論到五點半 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].start |
26428.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].end |
26430.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9015].text |
那你們就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].start |
26430.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].end |
26432.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9016].text |
其實不管是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].start |
26432.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].end |
26434.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9017].text |
你在擇期就是三會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].start |
26434.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].end |
26436.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9018].text |
在動議上就是三會啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].start |
26436.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].end |
26438.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9019].text |
當然理由是一回事啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].start |
26438.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].end |
26440.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9020].text |
一樣尊重還是先講尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].start |
26440.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].end |
26442.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9021].text |
可是當然就很可惜啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].start |
26442.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].end |
26444.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9022].text |
我個人就是表達遺憾啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].start |
26444.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].end |
26446.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9023].text |
營養午餐專法今天我們可以往前 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].start |
26446.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].end |
26448.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9024].text |
再往前多走兩步 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].start |
26448.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].end |
26450.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9025].text |
當然像之前會期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].start |
26450.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].end |
26452.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9026].text |
也就是討論兩條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].start |
26452.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].end |
26454.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9027].text |
那也就是進展兩條嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].start |
26454.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].end |
26456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9028].text |
可見當然有困難嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].start |
26456.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].end |
26458.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9029].text |
可是如果說因為困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].start |
26458.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].end |
26460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9030].text |
我們就先把困難的先往前多走兩步呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].start |
26460.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].end |
26462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9031].text |
所以真的還是再呼籲啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].start |
26462.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].end |
26464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9032].text |
能不能再考慮一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].start |
26464.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].end |
26466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9033].text |
當然如果真的要處理這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].start |
26466.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].end |
26468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9034].text |
擇期今天三會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].start |
26468.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].end |
26470.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9035].text |
擇期再討論的動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].start |
26470.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].end |
26472.35 |
| transcript.whisperx[9036].text |
那我們也只能尊重啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].start |
26481.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].end |
26483.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9037].text |
五招尾巴還是因為我剛剛有宣告耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].start |
26484.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].end |
26486.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9038].text |
有宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].start |
26486.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].end |
26488.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9039].text |
就是我講完就要處理動議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].start |
26488.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].end |
26490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9040].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].start |
26490.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].end |
26492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9041].text |
要不然您剪短好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].start |
26492.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].end |
26494.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9042].text |
不用剪短 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].start |
26494.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].end |
26496.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9043].text |
沒關係就尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].start |
26496.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].end |
26498.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9044].text |
那不好意思我站著啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].start |
26498.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].end |
26500.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[9045].text |
坐比較久 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].start |
26500.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].end |
26502.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9046].text |
還是希望啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].start |
26502.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].end |
26504.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9047].text |
懇請我們執政黨委員能夠收回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].start |
26504.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].end |
26506.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9048].text |
我們的這一個動議啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].start |
26506.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].end |
26508.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9049].text |
我們還是希望能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].start |
26508.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].end |
26510.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9050].text |
那我也是可以給我一點理由嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].start |
26510.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].end |
26512.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9051].text |
沒有列入公報沒有關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].start |
26513.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].end |
26515.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9052].text |
可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].start |
26515.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].end |
26517.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9053].text |
因為我有點不好意思啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].start |
26517.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].end |
26519.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9054].text |
我其實早上的質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].start |
26519.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].end |
26521.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9055].text |
我有準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].start |
26521.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].end |
26523.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9056].text |
這個營養午餐的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].start |
26523.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].end |
26525.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9057].text |
但是我刻意不講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].start |
26525.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].end |
26527.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9058].text |
我只講學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].start |
26527.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].end |
26529.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9059].text |
下午來討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].start |
26529.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].end |
26531.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9060].text |
我是真的很想討論我自己也蠻遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].start |
26531.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].end |
26533.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9061].text |
但是真的時間因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].start |
26533.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].end |
26535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9062].text |
已經四點了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].start |
26535.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].end |
26537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9063].text |
我很想參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].start |
26537.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].end |
26539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9064].text |
可是因為我自己也有來自花蓮 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].start |
26539.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].end |
26541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9065].text |
秀林鄉的鄉親 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].start |
26541.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].end |
26543.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9066].text |
在紅樓201等我開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].start |
26543.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].end |
26545.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9067].text |
所以我是希望說能不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].start |
26545.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].end |
26547.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9068].text |
夠擇期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].start |
26547.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].end |
26549.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9069].text |
其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].start |
26549.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].end |
26551.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9070].text |
因為我當召委啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].start |
26551.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].end |
26553.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9071].text |
吳召委跟我其實我們有一些默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].start |
26553.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].end |
26555.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9072].text |
我剛剛就講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].start |
26555.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].end |
26557.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9073].text |
其實你交代我我也都盡力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].start |
26557.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].end |
26559.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9074].text |
達到嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].start |
26560.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].end |
26562.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9075].text |
那我也是拜託委員啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].start |
26562.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].end |
26564.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9076].text |
我是希望能夠繼續討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].start |
26564.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].end |
26566.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9077].text |
但是我也願意為了你休息半個小時 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].start |
26566.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].end |
26568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9078].text |
你先去處理201的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].start |
26568.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].end |
26570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9079].text |
因為201鄉親我知道他們有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].start |
26570.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].end |
26572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9080].text |
需求啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].start |
26572.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].end |
26574.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9081].text |
我們等你但是營養午餐真的很重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].start |
26574.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].end |
26576.33 |
| transcript.whisperx[9082].text |
今天修到12點我都願意陪大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].start |
26578.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].end |
26580.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9083].text |
我馬上處理動議你就可以走了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].start |
26580.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].end |
26582.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9084].text |
但我真的是拜託說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].start |
26582.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].end |
26584.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9085].text |
執政黨的委員是不是抽 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].start |
26584.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].end |
26586.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9086].text |
回動議讓我講完話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].start |
26586.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].end |
26588.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9087].text |
我們就要處理但真的拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].start |
26588.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].end |
26590.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9088].text |
一定要現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].start |
26590.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].end |
26592.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9089].text |
討論一條是一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].start |
26592.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].end |
26594.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9090].text |
如果你跟我講說要再繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].start |
26594.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].end |
26596.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9091].text |
討論中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].start |
26596.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].end |
26598.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9092].text |
討論多少次了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].start |
26598.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].end |
26600.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9093].text |
從114年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].start |
26600.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].end |
26602.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9094].text |
又拖了多久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].start |
26602.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].end |
26604.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9095].text |
就是讓他進入到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].start |
26604.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].end |
26606.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9096].text |
這樣子的死循環 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].start |
26606.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].end |
26608.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9097].text |
日本的營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].start |
26608.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].end |
26610.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9098].text |
已經這麼多年了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].start |
26610.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].end |
26612.53 |
| transcript.whisperx[9099].text |
台灣還不跟進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].start |
26612.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].end |
26614.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9100].text |
現在有委員提到台中的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].start |
26614.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].end |
26616.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9101].text |
OK沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].start |
26616.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].end |
26618.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9102].text |
一個貢丸湯 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].start |
26618.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].end |
26620.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9103].text |
九個貢丸30幾個人分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].start |
26620.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].end |
26622.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9104].text |
OK沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].start |
26622.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].end |
26624.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9105].text |
有這樣的事情我們就是要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].start |
26624.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].end |
26626.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9106].text |
所以要有討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].start |
26626.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].end |
26628.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9107].text |
有討論才有辦法處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].start |
26628.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].end |
26630.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9108].text |
再來就說到才華法又說到地方跟中央的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].start |
26630.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].end |
26632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9109].text |
我呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].start |
26632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].end |
26634.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9110].text |
執政黨委員你抽回嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].start |
26634.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].end |
26636.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9111].text |
現在只要討論到錢的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].start |
26636.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].end |
26638.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[9112].text |
我們保留在委員會內 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].start |
26639.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].end |
26641.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9113].text |
我們繼續討論到現在後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].start |
26641.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].end |
26643.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9114].text |
比如說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].start |
26643.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].end |
26645.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9115].text |
儲公的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].start |
26645.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].end |
26647.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9116].text |
比如說我們營養師權益的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].start |
26647.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].end |
26649.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9117].text |
比如說我們食農教育的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].start |
26649.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].end |
26651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9118].text |
把沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].start |
26650.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].end |
26652.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9119].text |
爭議的部分先處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].start |
26652.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].end |
26654.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9120].text |
可是這個時候把它全部都 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].start |
26654.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].end |
26656.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[9121].text |
不要討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].start |
26656.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].end |
26658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9122].text |
那我覺得這是非常讓我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].start |
26658.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].end |
26660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9123].text |
很遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].start |
26660.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].end |
26662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9124].text |
我等這一刻等這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].start |
26662.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].end |
26664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9125].text |
換我當召委我要來做這件事的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].start |
26664.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].end |
26666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9126].text |
還是不讓我討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].start |
26666.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].end |
26668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9127].text |
所以我覺得這樣子我沒辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].start |
26668.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].end |
26670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9128].text |
那如果你要說才華法的部分的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].start |
26670.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].end |
26672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9129].text |
那我要講的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].start |
26672.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].end |
26674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9130].text |
才華法也有可扣一般性補助款 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].start |
26674.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].end |
26676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9131].text |
讓地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].start |
26676.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].end |
26678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9132].text |
沒有辦法得到原本的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].start |
26678.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].end |
26680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9133].text |
一些權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].start |
26680.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].end |
26682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9134].text |
那一來一回中央其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].start |
26682.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].end |
26684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9135].text |
在整體的總預算還是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].start |
26684.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].end |
26686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9136].text |
是有餘裕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].start |
26686.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].end |
26688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9137].text |
那你要跟我講中央沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].start |
26688.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].end |
26690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9138].text |
那怎麼突然又可以0到18歲 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].start |
26690.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].end |
26692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9139].text |
每個月5000 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].start |
26692.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].end |
26694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9140].text |
你跟我講說中央沒有錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].start |
26694.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].end |
26696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9141].text |
然後他又願意提出一堆特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].start |
26696.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].end |
26698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9142].text |
但是這個特別條例怎麼沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].start |
26698.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].end |
26700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9143].text |
營養午餐特別條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].start |
26700.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].end |
26702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9144].text |
就是有沒有心要處理小朋友的營養午餐的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].start |
26702.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].end |
26704.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9145].text |
所以我真的是拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].start |
26705.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].end |
26707.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9146].text |
我們委員是不是這個動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].start |
26707.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].end |
26709.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9147].text |
不要去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].start |
26709.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].end |
26711.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9148].text |
是不是抽回 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].start |
26711.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].end |
26713.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9149].text |
那最後決定權還是保留在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].start |
26713.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].end |
26715.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9150].text |
我們提動議的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].start |
26715.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].end |
26717.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9151].text |
主席我們以剛剛學代三法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].start |
26718.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].end |
26720.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9152].text |
都有共識的事情你不讓他往前推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].start |
26723.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].end |
26725.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9153].text |
那您剛剛是不是收回我們在學代 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].start |
26725.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].end |
26727.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9154].text |
在大學法第35條的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].start |
26727.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].end |
26729.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9155].text |
大家都相對有明確的共識的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].start |
26729.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].end |
26731.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9156].text |
你個人覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].start |
26731.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].end |
26733.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9157].text |
還要再跟其他委員討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].start |
26733.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].end |
26735.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9158].text |
所以我們會對於您的主持風格 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].start |
26735.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].end |
26737.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9159].text |
沒有把握耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].start |
26737.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].end |
26739.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9160].text |
謝謝 真的是這樣子啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].start |
26739.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].end |
26741.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9161].text |
那更何況營養午餐把我們講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].start |
26741.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].end |
26743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9162].text |
39案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].start |
26743.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].end |
26745.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9163].text |
20幾個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].start |
26745.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].end |
26747.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9164].text |
20幾個條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].start |
26752.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].end |
26754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9165].text |
然後討論要有品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].start |
26754.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].end |
26756.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[9166].text |
要有效率 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].start |
26757.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].end |
26759.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9167].text |
彩化法確實是一個新生的事物 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].start |
26759.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].end |
26761.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9168].text |
讓整個原本大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].start |
26761.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].end |
26763.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9169].text |
對於營養午餐的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].start |
26763.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].end |
26765.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9170].text |
好的政策的破壞 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].start |
26765.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].end |
26767.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9171].text |
都受到了一個很大的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].start |
26767.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].end |
26769.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9172].text |
而這個影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].start |
26769.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].end |
26771.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9173].text |
不是中央政府願意面對到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].start |
26771.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].end |
26773.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9174].text |
這種受到的衝擊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].start |
26774.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].end |
26776.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[9175].text |
教育部也是受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].start |
26777.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].end |
26779.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9176].text |
教育部這一年部本部的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].start |
26779.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9177].end |
26781.81 |
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少了八九百億 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].start |
26782.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].end |
26784.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[9178].text |
他們是受害者 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].start |
26785.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].end |
26787.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9179].text |
但是我們努力的想方設法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].start |
26787.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].end |
26789.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9180].text |
讓孩子的營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].start |
26789.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].end |
26791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9181].text |
吃的好吃的健康 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].start |
26791.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].end |
26793.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9182].text |
吃的有文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].start |
26793.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].end |
26795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9183].text |
吃的有在地特色 |
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26795.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].end |
26797.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9184].text |
那需要很多要跟地方政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].start |
26797.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].end |
26799.47 |
| transcript.whisperx[9185].text |
來好好討論的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].start |
26801.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].end |
26803.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9186].text |
那為了討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].start |
26803.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].end |
26805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9187].text |
然後每一條都保留 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].start |
26805.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].end |
26807.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9188].text |
那種討論就是過水 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].start |
26807.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].end |
26809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9189].text |
那種討論就是沒有實質 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].start |
26809.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].end |
26811.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9190].text |
沒有回到那個Hardcore |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].start |
26811.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].end |
26813.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9191].text |
我們剛剛在大學法 |
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26813.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].end |
26815.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9192].text |
在專科學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].start |
26815.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].end |
26817.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9193].text |
在高級中等學校教育法裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].start |
26817.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].end |
26819.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9194].text |
已經看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].start |
26819.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].end |
26821.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9195].text |
只是覺得大家時間都很寶貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].start |
26821.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].end |
26823.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9196].text |
我們執政黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].start |
26823.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].end |
26825.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9197].text |
六位都坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].start |
26825.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].end |
26827.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[9198].text |
我們認真看待審查的每一個法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].start |
26829.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].end |
26831.77 |
| transcript.whisperx[9199].text |
但我們更希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].start |
26832.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].end |
26834.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9200].text |
人民等了半年多 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].start |
26834.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].end |
26836.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9201].text |
287天的預算能夠趕快被審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].start |
26836.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].end |
26838.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9202].text |
這還是我們眼前教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].start |
26838.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].end |
26840.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9203].text |
應當承擔的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].start |
26840.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].end |
26842.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9204].text |
所以是不是就處理我們的動議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].start |
26842.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].end |
26844.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9205].text |
我們是具體希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].start |
26844.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].end |
26846.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9206].text |
為了後續針對營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].start |
26846.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].end |
26848.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9207].text |
行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].start |
26848.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].end |
26850.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9208].text |
來跟立法部門交換意見的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].start |
26850.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].end |
26852.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9209].text |
能夠更對焦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].start |
26852.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].end |
26854.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9210].text |
而且他們對焦的內容是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].start |
26854.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].end |
26856.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9211].text |
已經跟地方政府取得共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].start |
26856.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].end |
26858.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9212].text |
這樣的法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].start |
26858.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].end |
26860.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9213].text |
才能推進 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].start |
26860.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].end |
26862.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9214].text |
我們委員自己矇著眼睛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].start |
26862.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].end |
26864.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9215].text |
不跟地方政府對話 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].start |
26864.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].end |
26866.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9216].text |
我們無視於社會的現況 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].start |
26866.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].end |
26868.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9217].text |
我們無視於教育現場的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].start |
26868.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].end |
26870.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9218].text |
為修而修 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].start |
26870.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].end |
26872.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9219].text |
為快而快 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].start |
26872.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].end |
26874.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9220].text |
我認為那樣才是不負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].start |
26874.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].end |
26876.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9221].text |
所以我們的動議其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].start |
26876.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].end |
26878.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9222].text |
這種程序上的動議應當是即刻處理的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].start |
26878.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].end |
26880.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9223].text |
我們也很有耐心坐在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].start |
26880.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].end |
26882.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9224].text |
來交換大家的意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].start |
26882.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].end |
26884.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9225].text |
那是不是請主席您剛剛也說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].start |
26884.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].end |
26886.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9226].text |
那動議要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].start |
26886.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].end |
26888.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9227].text |
我們的要求是請行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].start |
26888.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].end |
26890.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9228].text |
再跟地方政府先行溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].start |
26890.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].end |
26892.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9229].text |
再把版本能夠匯聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].start |
26892.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].end |
26894.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9230].text |
然後我們擇期再來審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].start |
26894.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].end |
26896.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9231].text |
營養午餐專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].start |
26896.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].end |
26898.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9232].text |
我想這樣會更有效能 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].start |
26898.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].end |
26900.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9233].text |
更有品質也更負責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].start |
26900.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].end |
26902.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9234].text |
好 那因為剛剛有宣告了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].start |
26902.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].end |
26904.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9235].text |
就是我講完話以後要處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].start |
26904.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].end |
26906.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9236].text |
那因為武力華委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].start |
26906.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].end |
26908.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9237].text |
剛剛有說希望能夠表達一些建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].start |
26908.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].end |
26910.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9238].text |
我也有讓你發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].start |
26910.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].end |
26912.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9239].text |
那吳釋迦委員也有再補充發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].start |
26912.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].end |
26914.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9240].text |
所以現在葛如軍委員說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].start |
26914.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].end |
26916.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9241].text |
不公平他也要發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].start |
26916.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].end |
26918.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9242].text |
那不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].start |
26918.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].end |
26920.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9243].text |
葛如軍委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].start |
26922.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].end |
26924.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9244].text |
謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].start |
26924.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].end |
26928.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9245].text |
我想這個有能力的人找方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].start |
26928.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].end |
26930.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9246].text |
沒有能力的人找藉口 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].start |
26931.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].end |
26933.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9247].text |
這個有意願的人找方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].start |
26933.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].end |
26935.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9248].text |
沒有意願的人找藉口 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].start |
26937.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].end |
26939.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9249].text |
滿地都是藉口啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].start |
26939.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].end |
26943.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9250].text |
今天我想真的不要審 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].start |
26943.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].end |
26945.51 |
| transcript.whisperx[9251].text |
千百個理由可以不要審 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].start |
26946.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].end |
26949.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9252].text |
但是我們真的可以不要審嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].start |
26949.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].end |
26951.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9253].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].start |
26951.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].end |
26953.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9254].text |
我們覺得剛剛都已經聽過很多例子了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].start |
26953.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].end |
26955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9255].text |
我想我不用再復述 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].start |
26955.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].end |
26957.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9256].text |
那我就幾個點啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].start |
26957.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].end |
26959.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9257].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].start |
26959.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].end |
26961.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[9258].text |
方才柳樹斌委員也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].start |
26962.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].end |
26964.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9259].text |
吳釋迦委員也提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].start |
26964.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].end |
26966.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[9260].text |
就是說這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].start |
26967.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].end |
26969.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9261].text |
的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].start |
26969.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].end |
26971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9262].text |
那我覺得還是是不是請主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].start |
26971.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].end |
26973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9263].text |
說不定如果待會還是看主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].start |
26973.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].end |
26975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9264].text |
我覺得您的風格很棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].start |
26975.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].end |
26977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9265].text |
就是勇於認識的風格 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].start |
26977.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].end |
26979.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[9266].text |
那看有沒有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].start |
26981.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].end |
26983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9267].text |
要不要請這個教育部官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].start |
26983.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].end |
26985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9268].text |
也說明一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].start |
26985.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].end |
26987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9269].text |
不然因為我們營養午餐法已經審那麼長時間了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].start |
26987.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].end |
26989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9270].text |
怎麼每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].start |
26989.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].end |
26991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9271].text |
好像跟昨天前天上個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].start |
26991.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].end |
26993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9272].text |
上上個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].start |
26993.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].end |
26995.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9273].text |
怎麼一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].start |
26995.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].end |
26997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9274].text |
怎麼每次的理由都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].start |
26997.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].end |
26999.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9275].text |
跟地方的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].start |
26999.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].end |
27001.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9276].text |
那溝通的情況到底開了幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].start |
27001.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].end |
27003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9277].text |
找了誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].start |
27003.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].end |
27005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9278].text |
那誰的意見是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].start |
27005.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].end |
27007.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9279].text |
如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].start |
27007.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].end |
27009.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9280].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].start |
27009.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].end |
27011.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9281].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].start |
27011.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].end |
27013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9282].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].start |
27013.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].end |
27015.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9283].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].start |
27015.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].end |
27017.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9284].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].start |
27017.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].end |
27019.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9285].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].start |
27019.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].end |
27021.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9286].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].start |
27021.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].end |
27023.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9287].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].start |
27023.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].end |
27025.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9288].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].start |
27025.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].end |
27027.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9289].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].start |
27027.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].end |
27029.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9290].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].start |
27029.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].end |
27031.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9291].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].start |
27031.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].end |
27033.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9292].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].start |
27033.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].end |
27035.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9293].text |
那如果有我們不同黨派的憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].start |
27035.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].end |
27037.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9294].text |
我們大家也都努力回去溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].start |
27020.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].end |
27022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9295].text |
可以讓官員回應一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].start |
27022.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].end |
27024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9296].text |
開了幾次會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].start |
27024.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].end |
27026.05 |
| transcript.whisperx[9297].text |
找了幾個憲事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].start |
27026.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].end |
27028.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9298].text |
這個溝通的情況如何 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].start |
27028.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].end |
27030.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9299].text |
是可以講 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].start |
27030.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].end |
27032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9300].text |
那另外呢 我也稍微表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].start |
27032.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].end |
27034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9301].text |
那另外呢 我也稍微表達一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].start |
27034.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].end |
27036.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9302].text |
就是說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].start |
27037.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].end |
27039.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[9303].text |
要等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].start |
27038.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].end |
27040.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9304].text |
說要等誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].start |
27040.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].end |
27042.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9305].text |
等發生什麼事才來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].start |
27042.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].end |
27044.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9306].text |
全民也在等很多事啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].start |
27046.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].end |
27048.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9307].text |
全民也在等不附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].start |
27048.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].end |
27050.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9308].text |
什麼時候要附屬啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].start |
27050.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].end |
27052.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9309].text |
全民也在等該通過的法律案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].start |
27052.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].end |
27054.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9310].text |
什麼時候要通過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].start |
27054.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].end |
27056.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9311].text |
全民也在等 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].start |
27056.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].end |
27058.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9312].text |
這個什麼時候該編的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].start |
27058.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].end |
27060.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9313].text |
怎麼沒有編啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].start |
27060.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].end |
27062.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9314].text |
我覺得營養午餐就是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].start |
27062.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].end |
27064.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9315].text |
我覺得營養午餐就是營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].start |
27064.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].end |
27066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9316].text |
學生的權益就是學生的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].start |
27066.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].end |
27068.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9317].text |
大家如果真的要來扯這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].start |
27068.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].end |
27070.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9318].text |
我想真的不是全民之福啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].start |
27070.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].end |
27072.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9319].text |
我想 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].start |
27072.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].end |
27074.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9320].text |
除了剛剛跟主席表達建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].start |
27074.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].end |
27076.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9321].text |
就是說看主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].start |
27076.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].end |
27078.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9322].text |
有沒有想法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].start |
27078.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].end |
27080.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9323].text |
那處理動議之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].start |
27080.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].end |
27082.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9324].text |
因為動議他們是說擇其在意嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].start |
27082.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].end |
27084.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9325].text |
其中一個理由是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].start |
27084.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].end |
27086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9326].text |
剛剛吳思量委員也表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].start |
27086.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].end |
27088.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9327].text |
劉樹斌委員也表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].start |
27088.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].end |
27090.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[9328].text |
我也表達 三黨都表達 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].start |
27090.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].end |
27092.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9329].text |
都認同啊 要地方溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].start |
27092.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].end |
27094.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9330].text |
那但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].start |
27094.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].end |
27096.01 |
| transcript.whisperx[9331].text |
這個是不是教育部官員有沒有要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].start |
27096.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].end |
27098.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9332].text |
那既然大家關心這個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].start |
27098.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].end |
27100.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9333].text |
我覺得今天我們能夠有一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].start |
27100.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].end |
27102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9334].text |
更多的資訊跟結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].start |
27102.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].end |
27104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9335].text |
被記錄下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].start |
27104.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].end |
27106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9336].text |
這個也才真正有利於後續的審查進度 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].start |
27106.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].end |
27108.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9337].text |
不然的話 好像有一個理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].start |
27108.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].end |
27110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9338].text |
然後說擇其在審 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].start |
27110.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].end |
27112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9339].text |
我覺得這會讓民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].start |
27112.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].end |
27114.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9340].text |
覺得很奇怪 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].start |
27114.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].end |
27116.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9341].text |
就是說 大家都記得啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].start |
27116.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].end |
27118.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9342].text |
吳思量委員是很資深啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].start |
27118.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].end |
27120.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9343].text |
雖然看不出來 因為保養的很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].start |
27120.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].end |
27122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9344].text |
真的很資深啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].start |
27122.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].end |
27124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9345].text |
可是這最早提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].start |
27124.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].end |
27126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9346].text |
營養午餐法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].start |
27126.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].end |
27128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9347].text |
為什麼現在要來擇其在意 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].start |
27128.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].end |
27130.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9348].text |
大家也會搞不清楚 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].start |
27130.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].end |
27132.49 |
| transcript.whisperx[9349].text |
所以這個我也稍微提議一下 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].start |
27133.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].end |
27135.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9350].text |
我還是要再 因為剛剛有點我名喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].start |
27135.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].end |
27137.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9351].text |
還是要回應一下 我們下禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].start |
27137.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].end |
27139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9352].text |
就會審預算 已經排了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].start |
27139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].end |
27141.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9353].text |
那有人說 你為什麼不上禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].start |
27141.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].end |
27143.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9354].text |
我跟大家報告 我光下禮拜要排預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].start |
27145.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].end |
27147.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9355].text |
都有公務人員跟我講 義式路還沒有印好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].start |
27147.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].end |
27149.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9356].text |
給他們一點時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].start |
27149.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].end |
27151.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9357].text |
而且我們收案截止日 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].start |
27151.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].end |
27153.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9358].text |
還要有跟委員溝通的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].start |
27153.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].end |
27155.55 |
| transcript.whisperx[9359].text |
有的要改主決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].start |
27155.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].end |
27157.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9360].text |
所以才讓你們有更充分的溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].start |
27157.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].end |
27159.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[9361].text |
下禮拜才處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].start |
27160.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].end |
27162.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9362].text |
不會不排 請職業黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].start |
27163.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].end |
27165.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9363].text |
安心 放心 我們會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].start |
27166.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].end |
27168.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9364].text |
我還是再次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].start |
27168.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].end |
27170.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9365].text |
你們難道都不會好奇 怎麼會羅庭偉當了三個禮拜召委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].start |
27170.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].end |
27174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9366].text |
你如果都覺得我的主持風格不喜歡 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].start |
27174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].end |
27176.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9367].text |
那你也會想一下 怎麼三個禮拜都看到羅庭偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].start |
27176.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].end |
27178.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9368].text |
就是因為你們跟我換時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].start |
27178.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].end |
27180.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9369].text |
換了時間就尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].start |
27180.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].end |
27182.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9370].text |
你們換了時間 你們先完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].start |
27182.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].end |
27184.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9371].text |
結果笑說被換時間的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].start |
27184.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].end |
27186.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9372].text |
哈哈你都沒有 你都沒做 你不努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].start |
27186.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].end |
27188.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9373].text |
那我也覺得很納悶 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].start |
27188.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].end |
27190.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9374].text |
奇怪 我願意配合換時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].start |
27190.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].end |
27192.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9375].text |
結果你換了我時間以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].start |
27192.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].end |
27194.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[9376].text |
突然就落井下石 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].start |
27197.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].end |
27199.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9377].text |
大家有換時間的默契 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].start |
27199.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].end |
27201.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9378].text |
所以換了時間默契以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].start |
27201.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].end |
27203.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9379].text |
我再來排時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].start |
27203.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].end |
27205.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9380].text |
如果你真的要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].start |
27205.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].end |
27207.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9381].text |
我們是不是還有一個默契 禮拜一都是考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].start |
27207.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].end |
27209.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9382].text |
現在都在講說召委排考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].start |
27209.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].end |
27211.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9383].text |
以後禮拜一都不要考察 沒關係啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].start |
27211.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].end |
27213.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9384].text |
委員們也一直拜託排禮拜一考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].start |
27213.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].end |
27215.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9385].text |
那以後我當召委都不准考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].start |
27215.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].end |
27217.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9386].text |
我們也來監督誰來辦考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].start |
27217.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].end |
27219.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9387].text |
不要這樣子嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].start |
27219.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].end |
27221.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[9388].text |
每次都雙標 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].start |
27223.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].end |
27225.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9389].text |
一堆委員打電話來給我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].start |
27225.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].end |
27227.95 |
| transcript.whisperx[9390].text |
一定也有執政黨的委員打給我 我不要講名字啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].start |
27229.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].end |
27231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9391].text |
說你當召委禮拜一辦考察好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].start |
27231.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].end |
27233.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9392].text |
給我們好做事 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].start |
27233.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].end |
27235.31 |
| transcript.whisperx[9393].text |
大家一個體諒 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].start |
27236.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].end |
27238.03 |
| transcript.whisperx[9394].text |
羅庭偉辦考察 羅庭偉薪水小偷 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].start |
27239.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].end |
27241.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9395].text |
打電話來拜託的時候不是這樣子的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].start |
27243.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].end |
27245.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9396].text |
現在又嫌棄我 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].start |
27245.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].end |
27247.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9397].text |
沒關係 給你嫌棄 檯面上嫌棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].start |
27247.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].end |
27249.27 |
| transcript.whisperx[9398].text |
但不要雙標 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].start |
27249.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].end |
27251.41 |
| transcript.whisperx[9399].text |
不要私底下打電話來拜託召委排考察啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].start |
27254.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].end |
27256.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9400].text |
要鬧這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].start |
27256.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].end |
27258.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9401].text |
以後我呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].start |
27258.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].end |
27260.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9402].text |
所有教育文化委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].start |
27260.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].end |
27262.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[9403].text |
誰都不准排考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].start |
27261.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].end |
27263.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9404].text |
哪個人排考察就抵制他 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].start |
27263.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].end |
27265.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9405].text |
唾棄他 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].start |
27266.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].end |
27268.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9406].text |
我們看下個禮拜誰排考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].start |
27270 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].end |
27272 |
| transcript.whisperx[9407].text |
不是嘛 你說沒有時間嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].start |
27272 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].end |
27274 |
| transcript.whisperx[9408].text |
趕快審預算嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].start |
27274 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].end |
27276 |
| transcript.whisperx[9409].text |
一定要戳破你們之間委員的一些默契嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].start |
27276 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].end |
27278 |
| transcript.whisperx[9410].text |
一定要這樣子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].start |
27281.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].end |
27283.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9411].text |
對啦 對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].start |
27283.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].end |
27285.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9412].text |
就不尊重別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].start |
27285.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].end |
27287.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9413].text |
武力華委員的預算都審完了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].start |
27287.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].end |
27289.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9414].text |
會期還沒結束 尊重我的排案嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].start |
27289.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].end |
27291.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9415].text |
我有我的tempo嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].start |
27291.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].end |
27293.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9416].text |
我就跟你講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].start |
27293.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].end |
27295.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9417].text |
現在學生也說他們有困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].start |
27295.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].end |
27297.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9418].text |
讓我先讓學生的事情處理嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].start |
27297.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].end |
27299.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9419].text |
營養午餐遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].start |
27299.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].end |
27301.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9420].text |
貢丸湯只有九顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].start |
27301.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].end |
27303.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9421].text |
我要處理營養午餐嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].start |
27303.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].end |
27305.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[9422].text |
這也是民生議題啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].start |
27308.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].end |
27310.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9423].text |
教育部門是不是要說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].start |
27310.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].end |
27312.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9424].text |
剛剛那個如軍委員請教育部門回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].start |
27312.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].end |
27314.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9425].text |
不是啦 真的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].start |
27314.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].end |
27316.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9426].text |
是不是有機會大家也簽個名一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].start |
27316.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].end |
27318.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9427].text |
以後禮拜一都不要考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].start |
27318.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].end |
27320.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[9428].text |
全部禮拜一大家都來開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].start |
27322.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].end |
27324.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9429].text |
不要委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].start |
27324.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].end |
27326.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[9430].text |
明明就執政黨委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].start |
27326.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].end |
27328.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[9431].text |
一直在那邊講別人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].start |
27328.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].end |
27330.59 |
| transcript.whisperx[9432].text |
然後自己在那邊偷偷的辦考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].start |
27332.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].end |
27334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9433].text |
這我真的呼籲啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].start |
27334.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].end |
27336.21 |
| transcript.whisperx[9434].text |
委員不要雙標啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].start |
27336.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].end |
27338.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9435].text |
好 我們針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].start |
27337.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].end |
27339.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9436].text |
本日有委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].start |
27341.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].end |
27343.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[9437].text |
Tiano |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].start |
27343.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].end |
27345.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9438].text |
行政人員宣讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].start |
27351.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].end |
27353.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9439].text |
針對本日會議議程繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].start |
27353.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].end |
27355.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9440].text |
委員歡迎等16人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].start |
27355.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].end |
27357.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9441].text |
擬具學校公參法查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].start |
27357.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].end |
27359.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9442].text |
等相關修正查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].start |
27359.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].end |
27361.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9443].text |
建於地方制度法第18條 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].start |
27361.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].end |
27363.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9444].text |
第19條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].start |
27363.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].end |
27365.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9445].text |
國中小學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].start |
27365.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].end |
27367.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9446].text |
營養午餐為地方自治事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].start |
27367.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].end |
27369.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9447].text |
然各地方縣市相關 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].start |
27369.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].end |
27371.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9448].text |
午餐運作機制不一 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].start |
27371.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].end |
27373.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9449].text |
能有待中央地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].start |
27373.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].end |
27375.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9450].text |
溝通協調 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].start |
27375.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].end |
27377.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9451].text |
你請做成如下決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].start |
27377.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].end |
27379.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9452].text |
本日會議進行到此為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].start |
27379.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].end |
27381.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9453].text |
相關法案審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].start |
27381.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].end |
27383.61 |
| transcript.whisperx[9454].text |
定期審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].start |
27383.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].end |
27387.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[9455].text |
提案人吳立華 吳思堯 陳秀寶 郭議前宣讀完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].start |
27391.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].end |
27393.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[9456].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].start |
27392.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].end |
27394.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[9457].text |
那有沒有意義 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].start |
27394.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].end |
27396.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[9458].text |
好 有意義喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].start |
27398.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].end |
27400.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[9459].text |
我們先清點人數喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].start |
27409.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].end |
27411.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[9460].text |
沒關係 劉樹斌委員不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].start |
27418.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].end |
27420.23 |
| transcript.whisperx[9461].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].start |
27419.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].end |
27421.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9462].text |
在場出席委員10人不按主席喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].start |
27422.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].end |
27424.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[9463].text |
現在開始表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].start |
27426.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].end |
27428.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9464].text |
贊成提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].start |
27429.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].end |
27431.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[9465].text |
請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].start |
27435.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].end |
27437.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9466].text |
好來 1 2 3 4 5 6 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].start |
27437.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].end |
27439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9467].text |
好 6位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].start |
27439.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].end |
27441.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[9468].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].start |
27440.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].end |
27442.83 |
| transcript.whisperx[9469].text |
反對請舉手 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].start |
27443.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].end |
27445.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9470].text |
樹斌委員你也可以提 舉手啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].start |
27445.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].end |
27447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9471].text |
只是不會列入而已啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].start |
27447.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].end |
27449.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[9472].text |
可以表達他的意願啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].start |
27449.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].end |
27451.89 |
| transcript.whisperx[9473].text |
對不對 1 2 3 4 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].start |
27453.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].end |
27455.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9474].text |
好 4位 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].start |
27455.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].end |
27457.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9475].text |
那我也舉個手啦 雖然我不能夠表決 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].start |
27457.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].end |
27459.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9476].text |
但是表達一下我的意願 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].start |
27459.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].end |
27461.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9477].text |
很可惜沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].start |
27461.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].end |
27463.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9478].text |
繼續為小朋友營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].start |
27463.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].end |
27465.45 |
| transcript.whisperx[9479].text |
來推進喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].start |
27468.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].end |
27470.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[9480].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].start |
27469.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].end |
27471.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9481].text |
表決結果贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].start |
27471.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].end |
27473.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[9482].text |
這一次的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].start |
27473.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].end |
27475.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9483].text |
程序提動議喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].start |
27475.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].end |
27477.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[9484].text |
那多數本案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].start |
27480 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].end |
27482 |
| transcript.whisperx[9485].text |
在場出席委員10人不按主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].start |
27482 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].end |
27484 |
| transcript.whisperx[9486].text |
贊成者6人 反對者4人 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].start |
27484 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].end |
27486 |
| transcript.whisperx[9487].text |
我們現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].start |
27486 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].end |
27488 |
| transcript.whisperx[9488].text |
贊成者多數本案通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].start |
27490.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].end |
27492.97 |
| transcript.whisperx[9489].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].start |
27492.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].end |
27494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9490].text |
學校午餐及 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].start |
27494.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].end |
27496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9491].text |
飲食教育條例草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].start |
27496.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].end |
27498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9492].text |
相關草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].start |
27498.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].end |
27500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9493].text |
只能定期 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].start |
27500.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].end |
27502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9494].text |
繼續審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].start |
27502.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].end |
27504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9495].text |
報告委員會今天議程處理完畢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].start |
27504.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].end |
27506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9496].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].start |
27506.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].end |
27508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9497].text |
那我還是要講一下請列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].start |
27508.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].end |
27510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9498].text |
陳培文要求列入公報記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].start |
27510.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].end |
27512.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9499].text |
剛剛不是只有民進黨委員要求主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].start |
27512.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].end |
27514.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9500].text |
讓國教署進行說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].start |
27514.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].end |
27516.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9501].text |
因為連剛剛劉樹斌委員都說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].start |
27516.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].end |
27518.15 |
| transcript.whisperx[9502].text |
從1月開始到現在 |
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各縣市的狀況 |
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各位委員你們不好奇嗎 |
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地方政府在跟中央政府之間開會 |
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不會只有才華法的問題 |
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相關的這些法規適應的問題 |
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他都不想聽嗎 |
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但主席決定滿恨的就處理 |
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臨時動議這件事 |
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