| IVOD_ID |
171553 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171553 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-6-36-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第6會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-22T10:29:12+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-22T10:42:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/9f0219c4ec2537e6a37c49f422a9c095b08b3c7c707988bc0da12af8eb8a9ca7071eed9bfd46deff5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
莊瑞雄 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:29:12 - 10:42:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第6會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請銓敘部部長、法務部部長、農業部部長就「公務機關與公務人員於選舉期間違反公務人員行政中立法查辦情形」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【10月21日及22日兩天一次會】） |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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莊委員瑞雄 |
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SPEAKER_04 |
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陳委員昭姿 |
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蔡署長昇甫 |
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0 |
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5 |
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謝謝主席主席很英明 |
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5 |
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9 |
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也體會體恤大家每一個委員 |
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9 |
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11 |
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在在立法院的很多的活動 |
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11 |
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13 |
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像我們黨團的黨編 |
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13 |
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15 |
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我們就每天早上記者會 |
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15 |
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17 |
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也是在服務所有的媒體朋友 |
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17 |
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19 |
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感謝主席很英明 |
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19 |
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25 |
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我們請我們我看看 |
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25 |
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26 |
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你今天去就要問 |
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26 |
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28 |
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你拜這個你就要問農業部委 |
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28 |
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31 |
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別人叫去都不是農業部的好奇怪 |
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31 |
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33 |
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農業部黃次長 |
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33 |
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35 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
農業部黃次長 |
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35 |
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38 |
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今天你要收你農業部的 |
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38 |
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40 |
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你又不敢說出來 |
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40 |
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41 |
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他要來負責任 |
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41 |
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42 |
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好啦全序部好不好 |
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42 |
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44 |
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全序部師部長 |
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44 |
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46 |
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黃次長我就不用了 |
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46 |
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49 |
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黃次長剛上來都在給我們國會上課 |
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49 |
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50 |
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喝個水 |
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50 |
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51 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
這就不用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
51 |
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52 |
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好 |
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52 |
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53 |
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你喝你喝 |
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53 |
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56 |
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來那個農業部黃次長 |
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56 |
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57 |
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我先問你 |
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57 |
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62 |
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我看今天稍微排將的議程裡面 |
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62 |
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67 |
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就是對你們非公用的這個不動產 |
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67 |
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69 |
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去租給政黨來做造勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
69 |
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70 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
候選人來造勢 |
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70 |
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73 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
我們就聚焦在這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
73 |
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75 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
那我要請教的就是說 |
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75 |
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78 |
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我們一般只要非公用的 |
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78 |
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81 |
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甚至於其實很多都是公用的不動產 |
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81 |
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84 |
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我們照樣在做租借 |
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84 |
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88 |
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我看台北市以我個人為例 |
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88 |
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91 |
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我過去在當台北市黨部主委的時候 |
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91 |
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94 |
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那我們很多政黨的活動 |
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94 |
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96 |
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比如說我們要改選黨職 |
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96 |
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98 |
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我也都他們照樣 |
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98 |
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100 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
石牌國中我們照樣不照 |
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100 |
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102 |
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大安高說我們照樣不照 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
102 |
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104 |
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很多地方其實都會照 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
104 |
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105 |
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很正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
105 |
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106 |
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那重點是在於 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
106 |
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108 |
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我聽不懂的地方是 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
108 |
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110 |
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請你們釐清的地方 |
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110 |
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113 |
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是承招之委員排這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
113 |
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115 |
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我覺得讓你們講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
115 |
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116 |
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很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
116 |
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118 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
我的意思說行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
118 |
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121 |
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政府本來就要嚴守行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
121 |
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123 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
行政中立的核心就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
123 |
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125 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
有沒有公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
125 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
127 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
你有那公平對待嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
127 |
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129 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
你說民進黨來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
129 |
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131 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
你不做 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
131 |
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133 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
國民黨來做你就做 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
133 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
135 |
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民進黨會把你幹掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
135 |
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138 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
國民黨來租可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
台灣民眾黨來租不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
不可以這個承招之委 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
142 |
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144 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
一定把你屁屁叫 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
144 |
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145 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
我還會挺他 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
145 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
147 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
我會說為什麼國民黨租可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
147 |
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149 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
台灣民眾黨就不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
149 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
150 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
你在欺負台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
150 |
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152 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
連我民進黨我都看不下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
152 |
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154 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
各政黨就這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
154 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
159 |
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大家這個是公平的來做一個對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
159 |
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162 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
那本案我想請教就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
162 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
165 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
我們2020年水利會改制以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
165 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
168 |
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你們到底這款長租跟短租 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
168 |
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171 |
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你們短租是規範還沒有建立是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
171 |
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174 |
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如果沒有建立的話我認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
174 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
175 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
核心問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
175 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
177 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
今天建立規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
177 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
178 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
這個第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
178 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
你講行政要有定時嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
181 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
183 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
我說假設這個案子是我 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
183 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
185 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
莊瑞雄來承辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
185 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
186 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
我做你們的少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
186 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
今天送我這裡來 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我會覺得這幾天沒有議 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
192 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
要看看我們不在用 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
192 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
我閒置的土地在那個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
195 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
197 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
我閒置土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
197 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
我非公用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
尤其是非公用的不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
我當然要活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
我可以賺一點錢是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
206 |
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為國庫或為機關來做一個進帳 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
206 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
209 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
這第一個我反而會肯認 |
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209 |
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212 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
但是有一個前提就是說 |
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212 |
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214 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
你不能夠給我租給國民黨 |
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214 |
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216 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
你也不能給我租給民進黨 |
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216 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
219 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
台灣民眾黨要給你租是不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
219 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
220 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
你就不要租 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
220 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
交易拜這個事 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
223 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
我第一個想法是 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
223 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
226 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
台灣民眾黨去做你們不要做議 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
226 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
227 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
有這個問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
227 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
230 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
因為基本上不管是農水署 |
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230 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
233 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
或者是他所屬的這個事業處 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
233 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
235 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
基本上都是屬於公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
235 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
237 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
我們絕對不會有這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
237 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
只偏向只能租給某個政黨的這種問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
所以基本上只要是我們公開招租 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
245 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
或者是說他要來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
245 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
248 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
因為今天這個案子會有點尷尬 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
248 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
251 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
剛好也就是像委員所說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
251 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
252 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
先回答三個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
252 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
255 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
我們一定沒有什麼顏色黨派之分 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
255 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
任何人來租都可以租 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
257 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
這是第一個回答 |
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257 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
258 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
第二個部分就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
258 |
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260 |
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這個案子有一點比較特別就是 |
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因為我們今年的四月份 |
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262 |
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才從桃園市政府這邊取得這塊土地 |
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所以我們現在也有一個委託案 |
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要進行長期租約的這樣的規劃 |
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274 |
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277 |
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剛好在這個節骨點上 |
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280 |
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一般的民眾來申請這個 |
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280 |
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282 |
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所謂的臨時的租用 |
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282 |
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285 |
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所以我們就依據他們現有的 |
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285 |
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289 |
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租用原則來處理 |
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289 |
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291 |
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剛剛就成如委員所說的 |
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291 |
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295 |
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在租用原則處理的法規方面 |
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295 |
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確實可能沒有考慮到 |
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297 |
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300 |
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所謂的長約短約這樣的部分 |
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300 |
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301 |
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這個後續我們會來做解決 |
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301 |
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302 |
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趕快制度把它完備 |
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302 |
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304 |
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程序上趕快去完備 |
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305 |
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307 |
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我建議 |
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307 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
310 |
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如果要成招之代表台灣民眾 |
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310 |
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311 |
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要申請的 |
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311 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
312 |
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時間比較貪心的 |
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312 |
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313 |
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快點的 |
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313 |
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314 |
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快點給他 |
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314 |
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316 |
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我們一律都是一視同仁 |
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316 |
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317 |
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大家都可以來 |
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317 |
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319 |
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成招之委員他也不會要求 |
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319 |
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323 |
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他也會要求公平對待 |
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323 |
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327 |
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就是說各個政黨他去申請的時候 |
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327 |
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329 |
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我是認為公平對待 |
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332 |
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那一把尺一定要嚴格來建立 |
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332 |
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335 |
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第二個就是說黃氏節去做 |
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335 |
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337 |
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成招之委員去做 |
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337 |
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341 |
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你租金你也不能有差別對待 |
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341 |
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342 |
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這個是一定的 |
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342 |
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345 |
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因為我們的那個招租原則裡面 |
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345 |
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348 |
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他就是已經把這個租約的 |
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348 |
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352 |
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不同的類型的都已經明確規範了 |
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352 |
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354 |
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所以不會有相同 |
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354 |
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360 |
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我們是針對不同類型的費率 |
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360 |
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361 |
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會有不同的費率 |
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361 |
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364 |
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但是不會針對個人而有所差別 |
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364 |
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367 |
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其實你們在說這個問題的時候 |
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367 |
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369 |
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我覺得就坦蕩蕩 |
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369 |
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372 |
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不管哪一個政黨來打這一題 |
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372 |
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373 |
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都不會貪 |
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373 |
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376 |
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你就跟他說我每個政黨都公平對待 |
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376 |
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379 |
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我什麼人來我時間盡量把你們索地 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
379 |
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381 |
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我手腳盡量把你們索地 |
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381 |
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384 |
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我租金也不能說因為我是首長的朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
384 |
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385 |
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我減淡薄了 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
385 |
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386 |
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都不會 |
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386 |
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387 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
一致嘛 |
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387 |
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390 |
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那你讓一個閒置的土地在那個地方 |
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390 |
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393 |
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好像是民眾有需要 |
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393 |
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395 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
或者說候選人有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
395 |
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396 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
你覺得我們不會 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
我們怕被說違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
398 |
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399 |
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其實也不會 |
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399 |
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400 |
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部長我請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
400 |
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403 |
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我看你們全區部也有發過文 |
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403 |
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407 |
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你也覺得說你那個政黨 |
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407 |
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410 |
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跟政治團體在辦多年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
410 |
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411 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
你們說真的就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
411 |
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413 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
你覺得下校也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
415 |
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下校你覺得國小國中都可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
416 |
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418 |
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那像他們那個農業部員 |
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418 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
421 |
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裡面農水署說一塊沒在用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
421 |
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423 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
非公用的不動產區 |
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423 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
說這樣就違反行政中立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
我看這個問你什麼時候做來 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
427 |
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429 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
委員我覺得建議我們保訊會 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
429 |
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431 |
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應該請你來做一塊宣講團 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
433 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
這我是聽到一定有教的 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
433 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
434 |
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我不會跑掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
確實是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
435 |
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437 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
我們的行政中立法12條 |
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437 |
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440 |
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跟13條是分別規定不同的東西 |
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440 |
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442 |
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12條是說公務院員 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
佔領長理的行政資源 |
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444 |
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446 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
這不一定是選舉喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
任何政黨或什麼團體來申請的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
你都應該要一事不可有差別對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
453 |
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455 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
董事長這點 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
這就是你講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
457 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
用個案講到 |
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457 |
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459 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
你在講這個12條 |
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459 |
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460 |
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所以我只是跟你們講法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
你不能因為政黨或個人什麼東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
有差別對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
佔領行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
這就是12條 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
跟我們講就是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
所以以這個個案來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
跟以前很多政府部門的行政資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
有時候也是借場地給人家用 |
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478 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
你不可能一個政黨來解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
你給他一張也解決不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
這樣就違反了 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
12條的規範這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
但是這個問題其實也 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
487 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我在這個地方也特別要求我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
489 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
農業部來尤其農水署這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
你既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
你說常駐的部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
495 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
你如果有整個出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
那其實針對於 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
要給人民便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
給任何團體便利 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
我們的原則是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
對任何政黨政治團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
508 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
我們不做任何差別待遇的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
508 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
這種非公用的不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
你要去把它活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
不要在那裡做閒置 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
我也可以跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
我也要辦多少年 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
市長你去那邊也借一份 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
我六年了我要停車 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
市長你如果說不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
我會問你為什麼不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
錢讓你賺還不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
你也不可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
除非你說旁邊全部都是公務機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
我去跟你借那一塊影響我的辦公 |
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533 |
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535 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
或者進來人家會覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
535 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
哪一個政黨在挺誰 |
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537 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
挺這個團體的 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
538 |
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539 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
你就對任何政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
我們就不要去做差別待遇就好了 |
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541 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
543 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
但是那個短租的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
543 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
既然今天問題被提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
開始為了建立更完善的規範 |
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548 |
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549 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
這個合理啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
我是認為這個合理啦 |
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550 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
市長你會不會看 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
市長你起來我要聽你講一下 |
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553 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
是那個委員指導的完全正確 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
事實上我們應該都要這樣來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
我才會教你指導 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
這我用腳踏夫想也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我腳踏夫想就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
哪一個政黨來我就公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
哪一個政治團體來我就公平對待 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
這個問題我就百思不得其解 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
我第一個想法是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
一個閒置的非公用的一個土地 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
577 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
租給政治團體或者租給候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
577 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
579 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
你有錢人賺 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
579 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
你不賺 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
你說不然我怕人家說 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
天下有這個公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
剛才的事情都很怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
我們的標準就很一致嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
這公務機關我在對待的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
我公家機關我就秉持著 |
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592 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
我公平的原則來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
我公正的原則來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
我甚至會要求你們不要給人家刁難 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
以後看到台灣民眾黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
尤其是看到陳昭之委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
這麼可愛這麼專業 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
對你們這麼好的 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
他來就給他時間盡量談心一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
這樣不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
但是我覺得整個要大家講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
全局部長剛剛也講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
你就只要機關你秉承公平公正 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
621 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
向來都一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
621 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
標準都一致 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
全世界舉世皆然 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
靠那個都不中 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
在我這個學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
我現在在上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
什麼你要給我做一件教學 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
在那裡給我發動算動算 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
我學生要學生你給我影響到 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
那當然不行啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
如果沒有這些狀況的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
639 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
你這個土地放在裡面要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
639 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
你不做人要做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
可以做人我們裡面土地可以有收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
不然你們講活化再講什麼活化 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
但本席還是要求就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
該有被質疑的這些規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
我們不清楚的 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
651 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
就把它定清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
651 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
653 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
就不會飛了 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
653 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
不然你跟黃次長一直在上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
一直在講沒有任何犯罪事實 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
660 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
他就說一波你知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
660 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
661 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
你就含色不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
661 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
662 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
沒有犯罪事實你叫法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
662 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
他怎麼給你回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
665 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
那就必須要跟你講一些原理原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
665 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
講一些給你聽 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
教理說是要問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
672 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
所以本席要求該建立起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
672 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
674 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
有缺漏的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
674 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
675 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
我們就把它補齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
675 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
678 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
對以後所有的政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
678 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
對於公家機關的這種非公用的不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
要去做一個租界 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
687 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
如何給他們便利性 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
687 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
不要去做差別待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
我覺得建立一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
以這一次來看的話 |
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691 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
今天排這個專報 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
有它的一個實意 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
697 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
是我們會要求所有的管理處 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
697 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
建立一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
699 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
然後更細緻的這個規列 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
699 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
700 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
更細緻的把它創造起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
700 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
以後大家也可以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
以前農業部去我們批評就這間 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
707 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
所以整個大家越訂越清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
707 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
這是好事 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
各政黨各縣市 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
不管是中央或者地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
大家把制度把它講清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
比較不會遇到選舉大家在揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
717 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
717 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
謝謝加油 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
莊大委員有所不知 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
農田水利署他們自己有個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
年租金15萬以內 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
才可以進行促租 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
727 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
所以不用公開 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
727 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
一先違法再簽 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
731 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
要就違法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
731 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
733 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
剛才讓你們動心應對 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
733 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
735 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
蕉姨讓他們去檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
735 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
如果這條民眾黨來 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
739 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
它跟你反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
739 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
我把你們出門 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
741 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我替你出聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
741 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
不是嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
743 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
非公共不動產 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
743 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
有人先打破這個辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
他們要檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
747 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
他們去檢討沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
747 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
不管誰來執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
749 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
我們想台灣社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
749 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
751 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
大家就是一個很公平 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
751 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
753 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
一個很公正公平的機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
753 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
不然我站那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
755 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
我給你質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
755 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
我剛才是說小金剛 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
757 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
不好意思他的綽號 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
757 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
我都叫出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
761 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
就是說你們的辦法先違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
761 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
有所不知 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
我最尊敬的詐委 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
765 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
我已經結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
765 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
766 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
言行一致最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
766 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
768 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
法條跟做法一致最重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
768 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
769 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
769 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
770 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
謝謝莊大委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
770 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
771 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
我可以離開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
771 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
772 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
好謝謝 |