| IVOD_ID |
171542 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171542 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-6-22-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第6會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-22T09:51:32+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-22T10:05:56+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
葛如鈞 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:51:32 - 10:05:56 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第6會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請教育部部長鄭英耀、法務部、內政部警政署及衛生福利部列席就「毒品校園篩檢、毒品滲入校園現況及防制、科技查緝策略暨跨部會輔導戒治機制」進行專題報告，並備質詢） |
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| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
0 |
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18 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
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18 |
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20 |
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有請教育部政醫藥部長 |
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20 |
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26 |
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有請政醫藥部長 |
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26 |
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27 |
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各位你們好 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
27 |
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28 |
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部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
28 |
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31 |
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我想中華民國最關注教育的應該就是你了理論上 |
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31 |
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34 |
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那最近法國正在陷入暴動 |
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34 |
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36 |
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而且有很多的青年上街頭 |
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36 |
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38 |
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你知道最初的起因是什麼嗎 |
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38 |
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是因為來自於因為校舍還有這個專任教師的不足 |
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43 |
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45 |
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然後專任老師他必須要跑班 |
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45 |
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47 |
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然後時間上的一個不確定性 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
47 |
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50 |
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等等的許多這個無法提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
50 |
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52 |
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那包含這個營養午餐 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
52 |
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54 |
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等 等這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
54 |
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55 |
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謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
55 |
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56 |
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沒錯啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
56 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
59 |
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就是這是一個法國一所教區高中的學生抱怨 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
59 |
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60 |
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沒有老師上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
60 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
64 |
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本席相信我們的教育部應該不會讓這樣的情況發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
64 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
67 |
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畢竟你在8月31號的時候就有表示 |
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67 |
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71 |
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教師任聘率達99%不影響正常教學 |
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71 |
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73 |
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不過你也應該要知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
73 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
77 |
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您的這番發言在教育界引發軒然大波吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
77 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
78 |
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你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
78 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
79 |
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你剛剛好像很得意 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
79 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
84 |
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您知道這個所有人都沒辦法接受這個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
84 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
85 |
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你知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
85 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
90 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
我想委員的這一個也許修正一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
90 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
94 |
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有部分的老師這一個是不滿意我的這樣一個利潤 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
94 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
95 |
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不只部分啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
95 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
96 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
我直接告訴你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
96 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
101 |
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台灣教育產業工會九大教師公會指出 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
101 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
105 |
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部長您口中所說的聘任率達99%以上的背後 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
105 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
109 |
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是現場教師超終點應稱出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
109 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
113 |
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來開課跟跨領域配課產生的數字假象 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
113 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
116 |
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我剛剛講99%你好像還很得意 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
116 |
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117 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
這是非常糟糕的 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
117 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
120 |
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因為開學前夕如果教師招聘不足的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
120 |
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123 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
學校為了讓課表可以順利排定 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
123 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
128 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
會拜託現有的這個校內正式跟既有的代理教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
128 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
129 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
超終點 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
129 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
132 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
結果就是超官方報表上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
132 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
課課都有人上 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
135 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
聘任率99% |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
135 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
但實際上是建立在壓榨基層教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
血汗加班呈現出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
144 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
譬如說全國代理記憶代課教師產業工會的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
144 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
147 |
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就顯示這個數字真的很可怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
147 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
151 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
將近九成89.7%的受訪教師表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
151 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
153 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
本學期有超終點受課 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
153 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
157 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
其中63.1%更是強制派任 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
157 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
160 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
不得拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
160 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
161 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
部長知道這個數字嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
161 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
164 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
我看您現在也很驚嚇 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
164 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
165 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
沒有關係你慢慢看 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
165 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
168 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
進一步調查發現什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
168 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
171 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
被強制安排超終點的教師什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
171 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
172 |
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疲勞啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
175 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
疲勞程度平均達到4.12分 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
175 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
179 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
滿分5分已經幾乎快爆表了 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
179 |
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183 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
其中有38.6%置評最高等級5分 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
183 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
187 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
處於極度疲勞的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
187 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
191 |
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我們要不要休息一下讓部長去找資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
191 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
好像是第一次聽到第一次看見 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
這個除超終點以外 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
199 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
教師更常被要求跨科跨年級配課 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
199 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
203 |
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例如特定的領域學科資訊深刻招不到人 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
203 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
206 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
要分給非專長的教師變成什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
206 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
208 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
我強制你來 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
208 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
210 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
可是你根本沒有這個專業背景 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
210 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
213 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
為了達到99%你一定要來 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
213 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
不得拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
214 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
216 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
這樣真的教學品質要怎麼顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
216 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
220 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
台灣特教工作的專業人員協會也表示 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
220 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
資源班招不到合格教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
225 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
就只能靠現職教師來應扛 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
225 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
導致一部分的課程遞節課 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
231 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
給面對6到8名的特教生 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
231 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
不只是老師的行政教學承受負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
236 |
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特教生應該有的個別化服務 |
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237 |
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也大打折扣 |
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237 |
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240 |
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請問部長當教師被迫超終點 |
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240 |
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244 |
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甚至還要面對不熟悉的專長領域的情況之下 |
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教師還有足夠的時間 |
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246 |
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249 |
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心力去批改作業輔導學生嗎 |
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249 |
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252 |
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您認為這些會不會影響到老師的教學品質呢 |
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252 |
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254 |
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謝謝委員提醒 |
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254 |
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258 |
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那我屆時這兩年五個月來 |
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258 |
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261 |
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對教育品質一直是我非常關心的 |
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261 |
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264 |
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那我要跟委員報告剛才所謂的 |
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264 |
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266 |
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這現狀是不是真的嘛 |
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266 |
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270 |
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那個民間團體所提供的 |
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270 |
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273 |
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跟我手邊我們公司派任的數據 |
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275 |
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89%超終點 |
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275 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
278 |
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我們小學小學各縣市 |
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278 |
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282 |
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所有的老師跟代理老師的比例 |
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282 |
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285 |
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我在這邊是會後我提供給我們 |
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285 |
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287 |
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但你不要問A答B |
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287 |
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289 |
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我這一題的問題是問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
289 |
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291 |
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這樣子有沒有影響到他們的教學品質 |
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這就是我們為什麼這將近五年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
294 |
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296 |
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我們跟地方協作 |
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296 |
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300 |
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希望他們提供不要控留太多的代理老師 |
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300 |
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303 |
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每一年這三年委員大概看到 |
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303 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
306 |
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至少都超過五千個正式區 |
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306 |
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310 |
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開給各地方代理老師能夠補正 |
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310 |
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312 |
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謝謝你啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
314 |
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沒關係資料再提供過來 |
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314 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
318 |
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但是有什麼資料就提供給全國大眾嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
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就提供給老師嘛 |
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320 |
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321 |
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是的可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
321 |
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323 |
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因為我們在這裡問了 |
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323 |
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326 |
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有這麼滿意的地方我們跟地方協作 |
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326 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
328 |
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中華民國有一個教育部 |
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328 |
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330 |
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就是你們中央在主管啊 |
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330 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
332 |
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做得好的人才方舟170億 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
334 |
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就這樣喊都是你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
337 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
然後做不好的我們現在看教師極度疲憊 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
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340 |
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你又說是這個要跟地方來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
我們都一起關心教師的疲憊好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
347 |
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所以我今天我送您一件T恤 |
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347 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
這件T恤就是極度疲憊好不好 |
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350 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
353 |
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希望你有空穿在身上感受一下 |
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353 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
355 |
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我們一起來處理好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
355 |
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357 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
那個部長我們來 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
357 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
委員很清楚這兩年來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
我對老師的一些權益的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
367 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
369 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
我是不疑的 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
369 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
但是我想我把這個當作 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
我來提醒我學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
383 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
所以我想跟著這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
383 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
也想要問啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
387 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
在教師需要操縱點 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
387 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
389 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
極度疲憊 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
389 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
又要維持運作的情況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
如果有人現在啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
說要推行雙導師的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
您覺得現階段可行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
我們目前這個幼兒園來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
它事實上就是兩位老師的編輯 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
我們台灣只有幼兒園嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
407 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
我們沒有國小嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
407 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
我們沒有國中嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
我們沒有大專院校嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
不要這樣子問AW |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
不要啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
同事給你準備了 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
415 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
417 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
你看了可能也覺得很荒謬啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
417 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
我們講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
他講的不是幼兒園啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
你知不知實這個說法嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
雙導師現階段可行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
我們現在各教育階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
您內心的專業來回答好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
您連主管教育的您都答不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
436 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
拿一個幼兒園來推脫 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
436 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
我要談的是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
我們當然從總體的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
這個教育的一個能量跟投入 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
現階段可不可行嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
雙導師制啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
雙導師制我們當然可以來研究啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
我們可以來研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
我們已經教師荒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
你不先處理教師荒的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
你要直接來研議 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
雙導師呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
這句話我給你一個讚 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
就是事實啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
但是以我們現在數據編 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
我是希望我們讓數據講話 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
所以數據講話就是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
我在這邊跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
台北市的國小代理老師10%而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
台中是18.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
您要不要看這10%超中點 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
超到什麼程度啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
您給他們多少薪水 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
要不要看清楚啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
484 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
這個教師真的夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
484 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
我同意委員所關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
這10%的代理教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
真的就可以處理我們缺老師的問題嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
有些小型學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
它確實在特定類科是不行 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
但是不能 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
499 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
你剛剛已經說出真話了 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
499 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
我們很珍惜 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
但是地方政府也很努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
所以我們要講的就是這個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
就是脫離現實 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
508 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
雙導師就是脫離現實 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
508 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
您說要數字嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
我們看數字啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
其實提出這個想法的人啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
三年來只來教文委員會兩次質詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
這個人提出的政策 |
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517 |
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518 |
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我們根本就不應該考慮 |
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518 |
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522 |
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所以回來解決教師極度疲勞的問題 |
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522 |
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525 |
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所以教育部有沒有開始統計盤點 |
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525 |
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527 |
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超中點還有跨領域 |
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527 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
什麼叫跨領域 |
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528 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
529 |
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跨領域本來是很好聽啊 |
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529 |
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531 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
這個跨領域叫做 |
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531 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
我不是數學的老師 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
我是教國文的 |
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534 |
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536 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
我可能得要去扛數學的課 |
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536 |
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538 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
這個跨非專長領域 |
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538 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
還有年級配課的情況 |
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540 |
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542 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
你們有沒有什麼時候 |
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542 |
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543 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
有沒有開始盤點 |
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543 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
什麼時候可以提供給大眾 |
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547 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
跟各位委員報告 |
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549 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
那這樣的一個盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
高中階段大概是5.8節 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
那國中小階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
會跟各縣市一起來盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
一個月內提供相關資訊給我好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
然後剛剛部長手上看起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
一些資料是我沒有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
也盡快提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
還有一個議題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
我還是要追著問 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
569 |
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571 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
接下來和教育部長討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
接下來要推行校園毒品快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
575 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
納入拓篩的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
575 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
那依據教育部公布現行的這個追要點 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
目前的毒品藥液快篩的實施對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
是針對五類特定人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
根據教育部發的新聞稿 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
原則上修法以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
587 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
未來納入毒品推一塊篩的篩點對象 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
也只會比照尿篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
同樣是這五類人員不會擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
那部長剛剛我們有提到 |
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597 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
就是說教育部接下來要推行的 |
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600 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
就是有關校園毒品防治的這個方向 |
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603 |
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605 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
那本席也要再請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
605 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
有人要說在校園實施毒品快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
是一件噁爛的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
還說這個侵犯人權具有法律爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
請問您認同這樣的一個想法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
我想從教育的觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
我們是基於保護學生 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
希望如果他不小心有染到 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
能夠早期被發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
而且接受一些教育或者輔導相關的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
部長您不要沒有答到我的問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
我說有人說這很噁爛 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
有人說侵犯人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
你認同這個說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
我們有一些政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
我們有一些制度的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
所以您不說認同也不說認同 |
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643 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
就是說尊重他 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
他的一個說法讓我們提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
怎麼樣去確保學生不要被標籤化 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
又能夠得到教育的一個 |
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652 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
654 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
你站中間沒有問題啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
654 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
但是我們還是要持續問啦 |
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656 |
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659 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
因為這個人叫做鋪馬 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
659 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
661 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
這也是我們在立法院的同事 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
661 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
他在那個時候2014年 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
他就說新北市要做的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
刮號幫他刮號尿篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
就是比這個A政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
672 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
我們也幫他刮號 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
672 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
673 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
毒品非法化 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
673 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
675 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
就要把他抓起來編 |
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675 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
677 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
他說比這樣的做法是更噁爛 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
677 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
尿篩是一件噁爛的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
682 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
那老實說這種做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
682 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
684 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
你們已經在推了 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
684 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
尿篩已經在推了 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
那現在我們又進一步希望能夠遏止 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
所以我們來做拓篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
692 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
那結果最近不要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
692 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
這是2014年 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
2026年就在這個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
696 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
還是這個月 |
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696 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
他在專訪的時候就講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
701 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
說這個不是要用唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
701 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
703 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
而是用問卷的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
703 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
找出哪些孩子 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
有施用毒品以後來做轉介 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
707 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
您認同嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
707 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
709 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
他說不是用唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
709 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
要用問卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
713 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
問卷可能比唾液更有效 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
713 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
715 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
我想問第一線的部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
715 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
719 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
問卷可以問出孩子有沒有吸毒嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
719 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
721 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
我想問卷會比唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
721 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
這已經不是什麼言論是有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
這是對的還是不對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
他說不是用唾液而是用問卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
731 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
您贊成這樣的說法嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
731 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
我想問卷有它一定的一個效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
我們沒有說沒效 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
但是他說不是用唾液而是用問卷 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
因為我們目前學校的一個做法就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
我們針對那五項有可能的一個同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
我們並不是捕塞 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
747 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
我們是做一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
747 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
所以現在有人說不是用唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
752 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
有人也可能會說這種快篩 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
752 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
效應快篩是噁爛的 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
您贊成用唾篩還是反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
760 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
很明確的講一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
760 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
以我目前來講我們是 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
因為畢竟這個人現在在選 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
767 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
選一個很重要的城市的市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
767 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
769 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
淵海黃氏 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
769 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
772 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
淵海黃氏他是因為這個唾液 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
772 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
776 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
確實是比這個尿篩更快速 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
776 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
778 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
而且不會造成困擾 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
778 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
781 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
效益也一致的一樣的一個精準 |
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781 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
785 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
所以對學校的一個教育的角度來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
785 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
他是比較好的相對的一個好的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
789 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
可能也比問卷好 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
789 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
所以我想各種方法一起共同努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
794 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
畢竟現在這個上試驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
794 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
795 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
蛋液脫酪子 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
795 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
新型態毒品真的是滲透的很嚴重 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
802 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
本席相信部長絕對不會跟這些網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
802 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
到底是同一個人還是不同一個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
我們現在有點分不出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
這個覺得好像毒品跟藥品的 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
809 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
英文都是drug |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
809 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
811 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
所以就好像把它混在一起講 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
811 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
814 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
我相信部長也不會認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
814 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
816 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
說在校園實施毒品快篩的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
816 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
817 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
校園毒品是零容忍 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
817 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
818 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
這個態度是非常堅定 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
818 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
819 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
但是因為他就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
819 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
821 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
校園實施毒品快篩的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
821 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
是將學生犯罪者嫌疑化 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
這個噁爛的詞都出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
那如果部長確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
831 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
校園毒品篩檢納入拓塞 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
831 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
833 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
是要推行的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
833 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
837 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
而沒有要採納這位沈柏楊候選人 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
837 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
所提出的問題一大堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
841 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
這種是不是又要找警察要上課 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
841 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
843 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
這方法如果有用早就有用了 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
843 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
847 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
那就麻煩教育部會同法務部 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
847 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
849 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
一同加速修法推動修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
849 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
851 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
因為拓塞現在法院還是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
851 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
852 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
852 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
那相信立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
856 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
在立法院裡面請委員能夠支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
856 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
好不好 趕快提出來 可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
859 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
已經在立法院了 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
859 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
861 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
請委員也到時候審查的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
861 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
862 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
可以支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
862 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
864 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
謝謝部長 謝謝主席 |