iVOD / 171195

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IVOD_ID 171195
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171195
日期 2026-10-06
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-6-2
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 6
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第6會期第2次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-10-06T15:34:28+08:00
結束時間 2026-10-06T15:49:41+08:00
影片長度 00:15:13
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 張宏陸
委員發言時間 15:34:28 - 15:49:41
會議時間 2026-10-06T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第6會期第2次會議(事由:對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 來 我先請交通部長
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 來 請交通部長備詢
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 來 陳部長
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 其實我已經質詢這個議題好幾次了
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 就是我們的靜老塔
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 這個高鐵
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 它能不能搭高鐵
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 這個我相信上次你也
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 我有質詢過了
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 對 沒錯
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 進度到底如何
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 您關心的不只是高鐵
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 其實台鐵你也蠻關心的
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 台鐵已經完成了
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 台鐵我們步一步完成
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 現在已經完成了
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 那高鐵的部分是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 因為高鐵它的這個票價相對是比較高的
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 所以他們現在開放的都是可自動儲值的這個票卡
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 他們才有辦法來說
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 因為有時候如果是單一卡
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 如果假使裡面只有一千塊
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 他可能就不能用
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 所以目前是開放到這種程度
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 靜老卡也是可以儲值的
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 如果他也是可以儲值的
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 其實我們跟您上次質詢完之後
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 我們有跟高鐵公司有開過會
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 有討論這個議題
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 那我們會朝向未來
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 會朝向開放的方向
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 這個沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 但我們目前的運量坦白講是比較緊
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 所以高鐵公司是希望說明年7月之後
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 運量充足的時候
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 他們會朝這個方向來做
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 配合委員所質詢的方向
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 有一個我們先來說
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 其實各縣市現在靜老卡的點數
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 尤其明年有很多新的縣市首長
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 他們現在政見也都增加了
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 像新北
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 將把新北靜老卡
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 宜蘭
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 這個林國章
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 他也說每個月也是一千點
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 很多縣市都已經是在這樣了
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 其實是勢在必行
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 推台鐵可以搭靜老卡
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 我們的平溪莊溪我看到了
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 他其實都是坐火車進出的
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 坐火車去買東西
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 目前看起來不是問題
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 委員我在這邊也跟您承諾
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 這個方向我們會來做
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 只是說時間上面的問題
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 部長你說的我理解
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 完全不衝突
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 你當部長我已經質詢了幾次了
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 你現在就承諾你先建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 新的車廂我們再來開放
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 那難道你要等新的車廂來
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 你越晚建置是越花越多錢
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 你們給我的資料
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 2024年整個硬體費用7000萬
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 2025年變9400萬
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 早一點做替台灣省那麼多錢
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 委員這個建議相當好
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 我們就先來做
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 我們就會開放的話
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 跟台鐵是一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 你把硬體做好了
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 人家會找你
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 現在全台灣哪個縣市
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 對我知道
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 經過我很多的努力嘛
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 我印象中是還有
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 我印象中是還有
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 真的要跟部長拜託一下
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 這個我們先把它建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 到底能不能把它先把它建置好
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 委員您的建議相當好
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 那我就朝這個方向
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 把它先做起來
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 那以便未來我們真正要開放
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 可以馬上快速的來上線
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 這個我需要跟高鐵公司來討論一下
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 這個我不曉得
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 我需要跟他們討論一下
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 一定不會吧
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 應該也不會超過一年
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 很多長者去買進老票
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 他也是買啊
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 我覺得這個程序啊
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 差很多
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 系統也簡單多了
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 然後台灣號稱AI大國
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 這個只要想要做
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 我們當初面對COVID-19的時候
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 我們行政院幾天就可以寫出來這個
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 全台灣發口罩的
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 像這個
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 我真的我覺得我如果要做
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 我三個月內就可以把它做好了
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 這個應該不困難
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 這個應該不困難
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 所以也跟您報告
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 這個沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 我們會請他們
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 如果可以的話
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 趕快啟動這個硬體跟軟體的票務系統的整合
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 對
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 我拜託
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 就是先把票務系統
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 你先把它用好
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 那用好之後
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 你要開放隨時開放啊
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 不然永遠在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 你用好了之後
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 人家就可以去處理了
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 他如果願意讓他來做的
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 人家就可以馬上做了
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 台鐵也是同樣的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 因為我們當時花比較多的時間
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 他們要必須同意
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 那必須把他們的系統也納進來之後才有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 各縣市沒有人會不同意的
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 目前看起來大家同意的
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 都想要
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 現在大家都想要
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 能不能在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 能夠具體的說一下
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 能夠承諾
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 好我們會來做
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 這個沒有問題
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 因為畢竟他是上市櫃公司
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 政府如果要做就做
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 光谷是最多的吧
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 他還是有股票上市沒有錯
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 對啊
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 但我覺得那個不是理由
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 難道高鐵就不要賺錢
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 報告報告
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 我有更多的人
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 報告委員我相信高鐵也會很歡迎這樣子的政策方向
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 會讓您繼續脾氣很好
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 那再來
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 這個我們太阪輕軌關於社後支線的這件事
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 這個你非常的清楚
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 這你應該也非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 那他們現在
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 又報了他們的計畫上來了
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 未來再建什麼的
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 就是表示需要建
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 就會核准
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 中央的錢已經準備好了
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 白紙黑字
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 他這個
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 就給他回這樣的公文
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transcript.whisperx[315].text 那我們整個修正的計畫
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transcript.whisperx[316].text 裡面我們回覆他們的韓文裡面
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transcript.whisperx[317].text 其實也都有提到這個部分
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 那目前他寫過來的
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 還是寫說
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 保留到查
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 也就是說未來新建的可能性
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 目前他是只有寫到這邊
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 對啦
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transcript.whisperx[325].text 所以我希望你們白紙黑字
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transcript.whisperx[326].text 能夠把它寫清楚
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transcript.whisperx[327].text 回到文寫清楚
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transcript.whisperx[329].text 好謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[335].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[337].text 目前新辦的進度如何
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transcript.whisperx[338].text 感謝委員的關心跟協助
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transcript.whisperx[339].text 我們在8月份已經通過新北市
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transcript.whisperx[340].text 政府一個都市設計審議
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transcript.whisperx[341].text 現在陸續在辦建造執照的申請
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transcript.whisperx[342].text 另外新建工程
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transcript.whisperx[343].text 是在我們內政部國土署的協助下
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transcript.whisperx[344].text 今年8月5號已經辦理第一次公告招標
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transcript.whisperx[345].text 9月22號開標
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transcript.whisperx[346].text 因為投標的產生沒有達到三家流標
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transcript.whisperx[347].text 後來我們在9月24號辦理第二次公告
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transcript.whisperx[348].text 剛好是今天10月6號開標
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 那目前是沒有產生參加投標
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transcript.whisperx[350].text 所以我們就會在10月底第三次開標
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transcript.whisperx[351].text 對我特別要請教部長
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transcript.whisperx[352].text 就是因為幾次流標了
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 所以希望部長
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transcript.whisperx[354].text 跟國土署這邊能夠充分的協調一下
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transcript.whisperx[355].text 看能不能再盡快
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transcript.whisperx[356].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[357].text 我們會去協商一下
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transcript.whisperx[358].text 好 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[359].text 那最後我請卓院長
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transcript.whisperx[360].text 好 麻煩請再請卓院長備詢
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transcript.whisperx[361].text 張委員謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[362].text 卓院長 就剛剛我說的
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transcript.whisperx[363].text 這個進勞卡搭高鐵的這個
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transcript.whisperx[364].text 其實我也在總諮詢的時候
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transcript.whisperx[365].text 也請教過卓院長
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transcript.whisperx[366].text 那時候卓院長也是相當支持
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transcript.whisperx[367].text 那你覺得我剛剛說的這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[368].text 先把它建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[369].text 這樣有沒有道理
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transcript.whisperx[370].text 在新車廂到之前
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transcript.whisperx[371].text 我們把該做的準備工作能夠做好
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transcript.whisperx[372].text 甚至我們跟這個進勞卡原來設想的功能
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transcript.whisperx[373].text 也能夠把它融合在裡面
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transcript.whisperx[374].text 能夠鼓勵年長者多多出來活動
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transcript.whisperx[375].text 對他的健康有益
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transcript.whisperx[376].text 往這個方向講
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transcript.whisperx[377].text 那至於說這個進勞卡要怎麼去使用
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transcript.whisperx[378].text 我想有必要在做內容使用上
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transcript.whisperx[379].text 要不要做一些比較善意合理的規範
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transcript.whisperx[380].text 我們再來討論
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transcript.whisperx[381].text 但先把這個建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[382].text 它的這個軟體設計
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transcript.whisperx[383].text 我覺得是應該交通部會跟高鐵公司來協調
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 請高鐵公司儘量來配合
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transcript.whisperx[385].text 這個要拜託院長
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transcript.whisperx[386].text 其實高鐵它有一些理由都不好意思在這邊講
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transcript.whisperx[387].text 你知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[388].text 這個講出來其實蠻好笑的理由
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transcript.whisperx[389].text 那我覺得就不在這邊講
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transcript.whisperx[390].text 但真的就是拜託院長
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transcript.whisperx[391].text 這個其實一個很簡單
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transcript.whisperx[392].text 也花不了多少錢
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transcript.whisperx[393].text 那可以馬上做的事情
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transcript.whisperx[394].text 那大家院長你也認同
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transcript.whisperx[395].text 那部長也認同
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transcript.whisperx[396].text 現在就是只有時效性的問題了
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transcript.whisperx[397].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[398].text 所以能不能拜託院長
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transcript.whisperx[399].text 把握這次新車廂要進來的這個時間
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transcript.whisperx[400].text 會讓班次更充裕
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transcript.whisperx[401].text 讓服務能夠更貼近人性的話
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transcript.whisperx[402].text 我們就來規範這個事情的發展性
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transcript.whisperx[403].text 好 我就拜託院長
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transcript.whisperx[404].text 就像剛剛部長說的這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[405].text 我們先把它建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[406].text 我們就建置完成
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transcript.whisperx[407].text 其實後面的事情
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transcript.whisperx[408].text 我說真的
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transcript.whisperx[409].text 如何使用這個各縣市政府
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transcript.whisperx[410].text 它會去處理
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transcript.whisperx[411].text 也讓我們的長者有多一個選擇
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transcript.whisperx[412].text 他平時也就可以來用了
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 我覺得這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[414].text 這樣子把禁錨卡發揮到更高的一個效果
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transcript.whisperx[415].text 好的 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[416].text 我一再提醒這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[417].text 那就拜託院長
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[419].text 謝謝張委員