| IVOD_ID |
171192 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171192 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-6-2 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-06T14:30:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-06T15:03:05+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:32:44 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:30:21 - 15:03:05 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議（事由：對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。） |
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30 |
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謝謝主席 |
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58 |
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60 |
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我請卓院長 |
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60 |
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62 |
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請卓院長備詢 |
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75 |
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77 |
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吳郝委員好 |
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77 |
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80 |
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卓院長 又是新的會期開始了 |
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80 |
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83 |
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也是一個嶄新的契機希望 |
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83 |
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84 |
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是 |
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84 |
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87 |
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我今天特地帶來 |
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87 |
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89 |
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這副弓箭要送給你 |
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89 |
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93 |
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有兩大意義 |
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93 |
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95 |
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第一個意義 |
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95 |
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99 |
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我就是希望你能夠更理解 |
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99 |
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102 |
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執政 施政 |
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102 |
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104 |
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就像拉弓射箭 |
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104 |
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107 |
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力道要恰到好處 |
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107 |
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109 |
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第二點 |
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109 |
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111 |
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我寄望你 |
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111 |
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114 |
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能夠為我們台灣 |
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114 |
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116 |
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射出 |
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116 |
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118 |
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濁魁三箭 |
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118 |
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121 |
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就像日本的安徽 |
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121 |
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123 |
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三箭一樣 |
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123 |
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125 |
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那麼 |
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125 |
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127 |
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新的會期開始 |
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127 |
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129 |
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跟在野黨的溝通非常重要 |
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129 |
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131 |
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我們不只明年度的預算 |
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131 |
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133 |
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還有追加預算等等 |
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133 |
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137 |
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如果我們能夠像 |
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137 |
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140 |
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拉箭射弓一樣 |
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140 |
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145 |
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這個力道要恰到好處 |
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145 |
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148 |
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弓就像政治手腕 |
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148 |
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153 |
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箭就像資源預算 |
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153 |
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156 |
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那麼弓拉得太鬆沒有力量 |
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156 |
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160 |
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施政無力拉得太緊 |
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160 |
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162 |
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斷掉了 |
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162 |
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164 |
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那就一事無成 |
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164 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
166 |
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這非常要緊 |
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166 |
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170 |
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所以要拉得恰到好處 |
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170 |
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172 |
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那麼其次 |
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172 |
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174 |
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我也希望說 |
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174 |
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176 |
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在新的會期 |
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176 |
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178 |
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你能夠再度 |
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178 |
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180 |
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拿出像你剛就任的時候 |
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180 |
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182 |
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那時候的熱情活力一樣 |
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182 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
184 |
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為我們台灣射出 |
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184 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
188 |
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像日本安倍晉三的三箭 |
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188 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
安倍三箭 |
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190 |
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193 |
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在我們台灣把握現在這個時機 |
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193 |
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196 |
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現在是我們台灣經濟實力 |
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196 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
198 |
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也最強盛的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
把握這個時機 |
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200 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
射出這三箭 |
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202 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
第一箭 |
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204 |
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209 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
我們成立主權基金進軍事件 |
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209 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
210 |
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第二箭 |
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210 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
213 |
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建立亞太資產管理中心 |
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213 |
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215 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
第三箭 |
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215 |
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220 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
結合揮達厚質AI產業 |
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220 |
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222 |
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我希望這三箭 |
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222 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
224 |
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你能夠在這個會期 |
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224 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
228 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
把握我們台灣最強盛的時候 |
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228 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
230 |
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能夠為我們整個國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
230 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
232 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
射出未來這三箭 |
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232 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
235 |
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所以我送給你這副弓箭 |
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235 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
238 |
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讓你放在你的院長室 |
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252 |
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273 |
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非常謝謝王委員的期許 |
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273 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
277 |
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跟你這個三支箭的含義 |
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277 |
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281 |
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我倒是希望行政立法兩院 |
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281 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
283 |
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我們能拿同一把弓箭 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
283 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
285 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
射同樣的一個把 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
285 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
這個才重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
286 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
如果我們的把是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
288 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
289 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
把先是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
289 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
291 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
但我們的目標就是一樣 |
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291 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
力道只有行政院來射都不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
296 |
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行政兩院一同射一把箭 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
射向同樣的把 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
298 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
299 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
讓台灣更進步 |
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299 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
300 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
我們兩千三百萬人不分哪個政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
305 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
那我們是執政黨 |
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305 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
我們就再度釋出善意 |
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308 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
311 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
大家好好溝通政策預算 |
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311 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
313 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
請各部會的部長們 |
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313 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
315 |
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他們要加把勁 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
315 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
317 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
在會期這一開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
317 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
趕快去跟各個立委不分政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
都好好溝通 |
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322 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
323 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
時間暫停 |
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323 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
我請我們經濟部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
請經濟部長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
329 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
另外王委員一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
329 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
揮達我們已經盡力 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
讓它留在台灣 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
335 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
成為台灣產業動力的一部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
335 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
亞太自產中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
亞太自產管理中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
341 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
我們在高雄也有示範的場域 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
341 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
相當的成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
我正想把它複製到其他地方去 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
至於主權基金 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
那也是我們現在緊挪密鼓在籌備的一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
也請委員來支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
希望能夠做得像世界第一大 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
355 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
挪威的主權基金一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
355 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
那是很值得接地學習的 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
為他們國家創造更多 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
361 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
福國利民的福利政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
361 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
那個委部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
我非得問問你不可啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
GRAP要來併福潘大 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
372 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
這個案子不但送公平會 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
372 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
而且你的屬下的投審會 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
他們未來也要加入這個審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
那麼你下屬還有一個資策會 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
他們這些資策會的學者專家們 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
在六月份的科技法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
我就已經寫得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
我簡單一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
他認為GRAP並福潘大對競爭帶來的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
限制競爭帶來的傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
遠大於對整體經濟利益的提升 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
這麼簡單的一句結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
我相信這是你下屬的單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
你應該知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
那麼在這麼敏感 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
雖然延了兩個月大概10月下旬 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
這個公平會就要判出來啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
結果你就在上個禮拜 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
你也等不及的 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
你不但去參加這個所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
所謂的這個產業的說明會 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
他是論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
443 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
對論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
443 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
你是參加這個論壇 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
這個論壇表面上沒有一句話提到GRAP |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
但是裡面的內文繼續都是GRAP |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
我簡單講給你聽啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
你提到外商投資外送平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
帶動本地產業升級 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
外商平台就GRAP啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
判新的業者加入 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
然後回歸自由經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
政府避免過度介入 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
部長你是部長之追 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
476 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
你是部長之追 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
你是在暗示公平會 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
暗示說你屬下的投審會 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
不要審這個案子嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
荒唐 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
沒有這樣的情況啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
我沒有講這樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
最後這個媒體下的標 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
493 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
也變了 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
FuPanda都是外資啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
那現在就只有一個外資GRAP要來並 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
而且這個並 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
505 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
GRAP就是Uber |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
505 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
並了FuPanda |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
那就是壟斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
511 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
511 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
513 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
你非常清楚的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
513 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
現在我請問你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那你我請問你哪一家外資要來並 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
在台灣要做外送平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
520 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
你講你講還有哪一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
我沒有零 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
最後你們也不遠了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
這個說要借力 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
這種是你的話吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
新平台的優勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
GRAP要踏出東南亞的第一步 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
沒有這個事 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
我沒有講這個話 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
標題是這麼下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
那你跟小媒體抗議嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
因為我只是去致辭 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
我就離開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
所以後面講什麼我完全不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
551 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
你還沒離開之前你就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
551 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
你甚至還附和著說 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
先投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
若能進入市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
將有機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
創造更多市場機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
提供工作者更好的就業選擇 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
甚至協助企業拓展海外市場 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
571 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
你再怎麼忙 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
577 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
你至少也要了解一下這些GRAP |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
577 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
579 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
現在來做的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
579 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
這裡面與會就講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
同樣你說那是一個會 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
好那個與會裡面有一個吳德威 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
吳德威你應該知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
你應該知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
六年前2019年 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
他在耕斗雲聯網 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
這個董事長的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
違法引入中資 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
599 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
獵爆移動 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
599 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
601 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
你記不記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
601 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
當時被你們經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
603 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
605 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
投審司 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
605 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
受剪掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
這個人大大方方就坐在你旁邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
一起再跟你談GRAP的事 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
我現在請問你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
公平衛跟你比平行單位好 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
投審司是你下屬單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
你在上面的一舉手一投足 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
欸 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
他們都看得很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
你是在暗示他嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
沒有這樣沒有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
我跟你舉個例子 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
去年啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
那個要合併 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
星光金 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
台積金跟中信金正在競爭的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
中信金用盡各種方法請金管會的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
去參加他們我辦的 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
也是這種亂談 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
655 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
當時的金管會彭主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
655 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
657 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
是為了言辭拒絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
657 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
659 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
而且他沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
659 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
661 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
這才是正確的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
663 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
一張照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
就代表一切了 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
更何況你在那裡不只一張照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
673 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
你不只這張照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
673 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
675 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
你還講了一堆話 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
676 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
所以我不懂啊你這是什麼意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
682 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
那時間暫停我請公平衛陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
682 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
在這裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
公平衛陳主委在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
686 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
委員我請在這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
686 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
公平衛已經備詢了請 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
喔已經喔就你喔抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
來請 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
693 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
抱歉抱歉 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
你可以問問院長旁邊的主委陳主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
我想你在這一個論壇也有受到邀請 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
705 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
但是你沒有去嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
705 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
你為什麼沒有去 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
因為這個案子目前是在我們審查當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我是覺得不太妥當 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
713 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
是啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
713 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
715 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
你在審查不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
經濟部辭私我們國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
721 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
所有我們自己內資外資 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
721 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
在台灣的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
723 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
尤其 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
727 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
如果在公平衛這邊通過了 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
727 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
不管怎麼樣通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
729 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
不條件條 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
733 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
再來就是經濟部投審司要審 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
那個部長這樣你聽到了吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
他說他們正在審理中 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
他不宜參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
741 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
不是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
741 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
743 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
更何況你去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
743 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
745 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
你還講了這些肉麻的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
745 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
747 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
你有什麼好解釋嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
我沒有講什麼話 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
751 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
751 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
753 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
我就是一個開幕致詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
753 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
開幕致詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
開幕致詞就是講我剛剛講的這個嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
而且就是一般性的致詞 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
759 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
這個叫一般性 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
759 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
761 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
對你來講一般性啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
763 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
對業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
765 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
766 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
768 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
整個社會關注的 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
768 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
771 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
尤其對外送平台 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
771 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
773 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
還有這些小吃業者 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
774 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
775 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
775 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
777 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
引領氣派說 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
777 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
779 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
政府是不是能夠很公平的審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
779 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
781 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
幫他們擋住 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
781 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
784 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
因為去年Uber才來要併服潘塔 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
784 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
786 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
被公平衛 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
786 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
被拒絕了 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
790 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
現在他換個名字Grab |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
791 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
794 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
Grab就是Uber |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
795 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
他們兩個並沒有佔總市場95%以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
800 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
這當然是壟斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
801 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
802 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
803 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
這個當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
結論怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
你們自己判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
810 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
那你根本不應該去 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
810 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
813 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
因為你的外接跟你執掌的職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
813 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
815 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
你手握的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
816 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
818 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
遠大於公平位 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
819 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
820 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
那你這麼做 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
821 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
822 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
822 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
王委員容不容許我一句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
825 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
825 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
那個院長我同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
但是是不是我在講普通一句喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
830 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
然後你看這個Grab喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
830 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
831 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
他們多亂來 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
831 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
833 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
Grab在越南 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
833 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
836 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
他有非常不好的列行記錄 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
836 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
大家可以去查一查 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
843 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
然後他現在在台灣的總經理是滴滴出行的高層 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
843 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
845 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
滴滴出行也是一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
845 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
846 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
列行 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
846 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
851 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
那最糟糕的是Grab已經跟華為合作圖資 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
851 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
所以如果讓他們合併成功 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
我們台灣的圖資將呈現在華為在中共面前 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
860 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
這是另外一個國安問題耶 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
860 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
861 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
861 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
864 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
你好像不太當一回事 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
864 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
865 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
難道更扯的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
865 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
868 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
扯出一個說運出總工會的理事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
868 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
869 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
名字我就不提 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
869 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
873 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
他說他代表他們是18個外送工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
873 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
874 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
結果我們去查 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
874 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
875 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
根本鬼扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
875 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
878 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
真正的外送平台工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
878 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
881 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
外送的這些外送員 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
881 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
883 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
人家他們的工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
883 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
884 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
他們有工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
884 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
886 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
完全沒有被要求參加 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
886 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
889 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
這個傢伙說他們掌握18個工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
889 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
890 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
我去查了結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
890 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
893 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
這些工會根本叫做簡單講四個字 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
893 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
895 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
幽靈工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
895 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
896 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
真的工會 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
896 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
897 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
不要請 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
897 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
899 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
然後弄個假貨 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
899 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
901 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
這個假貨甚至 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
901 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
906 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
原來背後Grab答應要投資他們的運輸業 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
906 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
907 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
天啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
907 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
908 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
908 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
910 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
部長我跟你講喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
910 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
912 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
你搞不清楚狀況以前 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
912 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
913 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
至少 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
913 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
915 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
你的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
915 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
918 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
你的外間你要搞清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
918 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
920 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
不能碰就是不能碰 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
920 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
924 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
你不能說我禮貌性去致辭 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
924 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
926 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
他也是禮貌性的運用啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
926 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
929 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
然後你屬下單位就看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
930 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
931 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
誰敢審 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
931 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
932 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
我可以在這邊說明啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
932 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
933 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
我的立場是中立的 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
933 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
935 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
我完全沒有偏袒任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
935 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
936 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
公益 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
936 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
937 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
這叫公益 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
937 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
938 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
你那樣壟斷這個叫公益 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
938 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
939 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
939 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
940 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
他說中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
940 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
941 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
我中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
941 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
942 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
我一句話就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
942 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
945 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
我們經常會參加各種產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
945 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
947 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
各種不同的一個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
947 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
950 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
去總是希望國內各行各業產業能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
950 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
952 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
審核公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
952 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
954 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
而且很正面的去發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
954 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
957 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
那我跟公務長還有經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
957 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
959 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
在多少次的會議當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
959 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
961 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
我們認為台灣應該有一個公平的 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
961 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
964 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
一個社會的商業的環境 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
964 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
965 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
競爭的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
965 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
967 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
這個都是我們在內心 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
967 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
968 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
有的一個標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
968 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
969 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
所以如果你認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
969 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
972 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
我們認為公務長在當天的 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
972 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
974 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
舉手投足代表一個什麼樣的意義的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
974 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
977 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
那今天我在這裡再鄭重的說 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
977 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
979 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
對這個事情公評會 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
979 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
982 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
依照法律公平的去審理 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
982 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
984 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
政府沒有特別立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
984 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
985 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
沒有偏袒哪一邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
985 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
988 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
但是我們追求一個公平合理的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
988 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
990 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
以及商業環境的這個活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
990 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
992 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
是我們內心的爭議 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
992 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
995 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
我們一切就看月底審出來的結論是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
995 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
996 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
996 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
999 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
我希望這個結論不要讓 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
999 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
1003 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
我們整個社會產生有三疏的感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
1003 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
1006 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
再來我講一個比較輕鬆的話題 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
1006 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
1008 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
這個也是社會關注 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
1008 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
1010 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
我們台灣的罰單 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
1010 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
1013 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
我們這幾年來的罰單大量增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
1013 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
1018 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
去年我們開了1631萬件的罰單 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
1018 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
1019 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
那是日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
1019 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
1023 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
日本去年493萬件 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
1023 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
1025 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
我們的人口2300萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
1025 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
1028 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
日本1.2億人 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
1028 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
1031 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
日本的人口是我們的5倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
1031 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
1033 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
車輛是我們的3.4倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
1033 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
1037 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
結果他的罰單是我們三分之一不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
1037 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
1039 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
三分之一不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
1040 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
1043 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
然後我們比起10年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
1043 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
1047 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
我們總件數快速成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
1047 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
1056 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
從928萬件成長到將近兩倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
1056 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
1057 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
1631件 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
1057 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
1061 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
1.75倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
1061 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
1063 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
所以我覺得這不可思議 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
1063 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
1065 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
那你如果說罰單開了 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
1065 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
1068 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
如果能夠降低我們車禍死亡人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
1068 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
1070 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
減少車禍的傷亡等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
1070 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
1071 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
也還好 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
1071 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
1076 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
結果我們的車禍死亡人數都一直高居3000位 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
1076 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
1079 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
111年3064位 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
1079 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
1082 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
去年減到2800位 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
1082 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
1084 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
當然有進步 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
1084 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
1085 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
但是反觀日本 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
1085 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
1088 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
日本交通死亡人數就我講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
1088 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
1092 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
他的人口是我們的5倍 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
1092 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
1097 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
但是他車禍死傷亡人數是不到我們的八成 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
1097 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
1099 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
他才2500人而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
1099 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
1101 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
他我們的5倍人口 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
1101 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
1103 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
所以我覺得這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
1103 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
1105 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
如果說真的能夠改善交通也還好 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
1105 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
1108 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
還有交通部一向有速度的迷失 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
1108 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
1110 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
我去列舉了說 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
1110 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
1113 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
那十大會發生車禍的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
1113 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
1116 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
最大的車禍的原因就是駕駛人 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
1116 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
1118 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
恍神緊張心不在焉 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
1118 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
1121 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
恍神緊張心不在焉還有包括什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
1121 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
1124 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我們到處科技執法太多 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
1124 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
1126 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
你看我們罰單數這麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
1126 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
1130 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
讓駕駛人根本沒辦法完全安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
1130 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
1133 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
那當然交通部也做很多改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
1133 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
1135 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
尤其是對機車 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
1135 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
1140 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
你們要求我對車況對燈光煞車零件 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
1140 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
1141 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
你們要求這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
1141 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
1145 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
可是到現在為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
1145 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
1148 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
前十大噪音因素沒有一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
1148 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
1152 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
是因為說輪胎燈光煞車零件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
1152 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
1153 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
統統沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
1153 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
1154 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
統統沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
1154 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
1158 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
我們專欺負騎機車的小市民朋友們 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
1158 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
1161 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
他們好差好欺負 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
1161 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
1164 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
所以我認為對於機車的健檢 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
1164 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
1166 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
還不如我們怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
1166 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
1169 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
我們給道路健檢這才有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
1169 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
1172 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
道路到處有坑洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
1172 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
1174 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
凹凸不平上下崎嶇 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
1174 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
1177 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
這些比方說道路健檢我們該做的 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
1177 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
1182 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
現在22縣市很多地方都廣設行人庇護島 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
1182 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
1185 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
那有的行人庇護島高度不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
1185 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
1187 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
位置是在死角 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
1187 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
1190 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
這些反而發生了很多車禍 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
1190 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
1193 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
這個台北市我們光是在內湖 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
1193 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
1196 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
兩個禮拜內行人庇護島撞了四次 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
1196 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
1199 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
台中兩個月內發生16件 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
1199 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
1203 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
汽車左轉自撞撞到行人庇護島 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
1203 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
1205 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
在這些部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
1205 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
1208 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
那個院長是不是你可以責成部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
1208 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
1209 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
謝謝委員的提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
1209 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
1211 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
我請部長再來詳細說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
1211 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
1212 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
我認為我們應該檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
1212 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
1215 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
第一個是道路的設施 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
1215 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
1217 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
設施是不是能夠合理 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
1217 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
1218 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
再來是交通規則 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
1218 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
1221 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
是不是能夠有人性化的一個設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
1221 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
1224 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
或者是我們的號誌規劃的設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
1224 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
1226 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
是不是適當 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
1226 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
1227 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
這個都必須檢討下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
1227 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
1230 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
最後才是說國人的手法跟習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
1230 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
1232 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
我們要能來協助大家如何養成 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
1232 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
1235 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
對人民來講政府只有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
1235 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
1237 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
不管是22縣市政府說 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
1237 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
1239 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
為了地方自己收入罰單 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
1239 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
1243 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
中央政府有權來對這句話下個定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
1243 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
1247 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
簡單講先把罰單減量 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
1247 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
1249 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
不必要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
1249 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
1252 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
過度曲解的這樣的罰單 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
1252 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
1255 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
應該通令22縣市好好檢討 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
1255 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
1256 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
可不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
1256 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
1259 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
科技執法交通部有跟地方政府在檢討當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
1259 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
1261 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
我們有測出了幾處 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
1261 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
1262 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
是不是部長來說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
1262 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
1263 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
1263 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
1264 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
您剛剛所質詢的內容 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
1264 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
1268 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
其實我知道您相當關心這個交通的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
1268 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
1270 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
不過速度管理這一點是這個樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
1270 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
1274 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
就是說以瑞典臨死亡願景發起的國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
1274 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
1275 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
結果我知道了 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
1275 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
1276 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
抱歉我時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
1276 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
1277 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
1277 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
1280 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
那他們速度管理對他們來講是一個重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
1280 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
1281 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
你先請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
1281 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
1283 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
我知道你剛剛講的那些我都看過 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
1283 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
1285 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
我只是告訴你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
1285 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
1286 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
時間繼續 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
1286 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
1290 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
車速不是造貨最重要的原因 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
1290 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
1291 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
1291 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
1295 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
因為現在車子的性質都太好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
1295 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
1296 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
1296 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
1297 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
1297 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
1301 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
20年前監察院就糾舉過波波醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
1301 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
1304 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
結果這20年來不但波波醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
1304 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
1306 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
波波牙醫大量的增長 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
1306 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
1307 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
那麼這嚴重的 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
1307 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
1309 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
危害了我們的台灣價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
1309 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
1312 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
台灣價值就是我們台灣每個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
1312 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
1315 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
每個世代都要有公平的就學權 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
1315 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
1316 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
1316 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
1317 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
教育權 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
1317 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
1320 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
公平的工作權 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
1320 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
1321 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
哪有這些波波醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
1321 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
1322 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
波波牙醫 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
1322 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
1324 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
因為他們在那樣子的國家受到的 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
1324 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
1326 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
我們台灣的醫師或牙醫 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
1326 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
1329 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
是我們台灣這些醫學教授們 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
1329 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
1331 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
大家手把手交出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
1331 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
1336 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
所以我們台灣的醫學品質是傲視世界 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
1336 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
1340 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
結果現在如果大量的波波牙醫波波醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
1340 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
1343 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
再繼續下去會嚴重的影響 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
1343 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
1346 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
降低了我們的醫療水準 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
1346 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
1348 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
所以我個人是認為這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
1348 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
1349 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
我認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
1349 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
1351 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
我認為說我們國外畢業生的學歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
1351 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
1355 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
應該改採要認名的 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
1355 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
1357 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
要列這個名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
1357 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
1359 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
哪一些學校可以去 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
1359 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
1361 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
那麼畢業生 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
1361 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
1362 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
國外畢業生 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
1362 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
1364 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
醫學系、牙醫學系 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
1364 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
1367 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
應該限定名額是我們國內招生名額的 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
1367 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
1369 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
十分之一才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
1369 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
1372 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
而且最重要我認為要揭露 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
1372 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
1374 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
在網站上 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
1374 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
1376 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
在醫院裡面要揭露波波牙醫 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
1376 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
1378 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
波波醫師的學歷 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
1378 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
1381 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
還有最後我們政府應該拿出態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
1381 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
1385 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
對波波醫師、波波牙醫設弱勢條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
1385 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
1388 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
大家不要再給他們有一條中南節性 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
1388 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
1391 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
在我們台灣要當牙醫師 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
1391 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
1395 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
大家就一步一步考試優秀的 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
1395 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
1396 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
然後去念醫學院 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
1396 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
1398 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
然後嚴格的受教 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
1398 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
1401 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
這樣才對不是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
1402 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
1405 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
是的我們認為台灣的醫療的服務量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
1405 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
1408 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
我們要維持這樣的品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
1408 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
1411 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
所以由台灣內部自己訓練而成的 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
1411 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
1413 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
任何的醫師、護理人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
1413 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
1415 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
都是我們珍惜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
1415 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
1417 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
但我們針對過去多少年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
1417 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
1421 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
有這些剛委員所說的波波牙醫這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
1421 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
1424 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
我們也去年以前也做了相當多的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
1424 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
1426 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
我們希望在一定的量 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
1426 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
1431 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
來讓他能夠把過去產生的這些能夠消化掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
1431 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
1433 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
一定的時間來解決這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
1433 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
1434 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
但是不會影響到本國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
1434 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
1435 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
新前的這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
1435 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
1437 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
新的我們就不要再以這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
1437 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
1439 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
我們設個落日條款好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
1439 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
1441 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
那個院長我時間有限 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
1441 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
1445 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
你請政部長請兩位部長好好回去研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
1445 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
1447 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
我剛剛講的落日條款 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
1447 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
1451 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
來落實我們台灣的價值 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
1451 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
1454 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
我們再不影響台灣本地的醫療品質的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
1454 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
1457 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
另外我們有這麼優秀、這麼良好 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
1457 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
1459 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
這麼嚴謹的醫療品質 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
1459 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
1461 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
每年一定的量、一定的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
1461 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
1464 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
現在是過度集十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
1464 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
1467 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
現在結果數字也超過十分之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
1467 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
1469 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
好,時間暫停,兩位部長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
1469 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
1472 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].text |
時間暫停,兩位部長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].start |
1472 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
1475 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
那個院長還有一件頭痛的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
1475 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
1477 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
就是關於勞動部 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
1477 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
1483 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
就是說這個我們在我們台灣的外籍人士突破百萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
1483 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
1485 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
那外籍移工也是 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
1485 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
1487 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
那麼外籍移工裡面逃逸的 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
1487 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
1490 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
現在竟然超過十萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
1490 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
1493 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
結果好像我們各級單位 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
1493 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
1496 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
移民署也好、勞動部也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
1496 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
1498 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
我們警政單位更是 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
1498 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
1501 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
因為警政單位已經太多任務要做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
1501 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
1508 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
要防詐、要抓毒、要一般的治安、要交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
1508 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
1510 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
根本沒有餘力 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
1510 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
1512 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
所以是不是那個部長在這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
1512 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
1515 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
越南政府他們已經計出方式了 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
1515 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
1517 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
他們計出一個方式就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
1517 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
1521 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
如果我允許你出國去工作的 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
1521 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
1523 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
你過了這個期限回來 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
1523 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
1526 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
他們要罰一億越南幣 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
1526 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
1528 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
他們計出這個法則 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
1528 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
1533 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
所以院長是不是你車程部長、勞動部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
1533 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
1537 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
他好好的去想想說這個部分怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
1537 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
1540 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
來做一個調整、來因應人家其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
1540 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
1542 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
他們都有好的對策了 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
1542 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
1543 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
1543 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
1544 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
那個部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
1544 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
1547 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
好,跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
1547 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
1551 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
其實在逃逸移工的問題或失聯移工的問題上 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
1551 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
1554 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
其實在2025年確實那時候是比較高峰 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
1554 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
1557 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
大概有到九萬五左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
1557 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
1559 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
那其實在這一年的時間裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
1559 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
1560 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
這一年的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
1560 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
1563 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
從今年上半年開始持續的在下降中 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
1563 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
1568 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
那目前這個累積的失聯移工的人數 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
1568 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
1570 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
大概已經低於九萬人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
1570 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
1571 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
低於九萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
1571 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
1573 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我手上的數字是十萬人 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
1573 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
1574 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
1574 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
1576 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
你說現在已經低於九萬人了 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
1576 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
1577 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
是已經低於九萬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
1577 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
1582 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
所以在今年我們整體在這個失聯移工的應對上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
1582 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
1583 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
其實是有一些成效的 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
1583 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
1585 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
當然我們還會再接再厲 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
1585 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
1587 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
因為我知道社會很關注這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
1587 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
1589 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
我們會再接再厲 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
1589 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
1592 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
所以我們現在包括也跟內政部、也跟移民署 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
1592 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
1595 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
我們其實接下來會有更多跨部會的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
1595 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
1598 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
尤其是針對這些非法仲介 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
1599 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
1602 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
針對這些非法仲介來去做強力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
1602 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
1604 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
來去做相關的查緝 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
1604 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
1606 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
這個部分我們跟劉部長這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].start |
1606 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
1609 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我們已經開了兩個部會開了跨部會的會議 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
1609 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
1611 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
劉部長我常常跟他討論政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
1611 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
1612 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
他沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
1612 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
1614 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
好OK那時間暫停 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
1614 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
1615 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
你們兩位部長請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
1615 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
1617 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
時間暫停內政部勞動部請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
1622 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
1624 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
金管會通知 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
1624 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
1626 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
麻煩請金管會主委備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
1628 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
1630 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
請 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
1640 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
1642 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
院長主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
1642 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
1644 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
我們用AI防詐是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].start |
1644 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
1649 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
但是不能讓身心障礙者變成可疑人物 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
1649 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
1653 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
事實上最近他們在做的就是要做影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
1653 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
1656 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
結果我們台灣身心障礙者 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
1656 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
1661 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
有120萬人裡面有35萬位是輪椅族 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
1661 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
1665 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
還有顏面商場的也有上萬位 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
1665 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
那他們幾乎完全攝影不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
1674 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
而且這個我們已經嚴重違反身心障礙者權利公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
1674 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
1675 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
也違反了主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
1675 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
1678 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
那時候你在金管會你要求銀行監控說 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
1678 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
1681 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
你要公平待客 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
1681 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
1683 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
你訂了一個公平待客原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
1683 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
1685 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
這不但違反身心障礙公約 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
1685 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
1689 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
也違反了你的公平待客原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
1689 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
1694 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
而且導入ATM的臉部防詐措施後 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
1694 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
1697 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
事實上這整件事很粗暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
1697 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
1699 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
事先也沒宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
1699 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
1703 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
那麼一下子全國現在有3萬3000多台 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
1703 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
1707 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
大概去年本來只裝了1%要影像的 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
1707 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
1710 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
現在已經高達7%有2500台 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
1710 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
1715 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
照他們的說法還要繼續增加到全部都不設 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
1715 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
1720 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
所以我覺得這不但是違反這兩大原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
1720 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
1726 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
而且這個也間接的歧視了身障者 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
1726 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
1730 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
所以這個部分我希望是不是你們能夠積極的 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
1730 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
1733 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
跟這些銀行監控公司好好談一談 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
1733 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
1736 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
就是這樣子要防詐也對 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
1736 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
1739 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
但是既然要攝影要影像 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
1739 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
1743 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
你就要調到拍得到他坐著 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
1743 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
1746 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
他不用動也應該拍得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
1746 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
1749 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
否則就不要來這一套好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
1749 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
1752 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
是委員這個我們都有在考慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
1752 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
1755 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
所以這部分因為我們現在只是先做一些示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
1755 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
1756 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
我們收集很多意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
1756 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
1759 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
香港委員提到都是我們未來調教的重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
1759 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
1762 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
事先還在鼓勵的信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
1762 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
1763 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
我現在還在努力裝潢 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
1763 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
1764 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
在鼓勵的信心 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
1764 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
1766 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
我希望在執行的過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
1766 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
1770 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
高度、角度、準度都要注意得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
1770 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
1774 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
避免王委員所說的發生這種不愉快的反應 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
1774 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
1778 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
我們有35萬位輪椅族的朋友們 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
1778 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
1780 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
這一點要謹記在心 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
1780 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
1785 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
我們一定會照顧到所有的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
1785 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
1787 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
好,時間暫停你請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
1787 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
1789 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
時間暫停,請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
1789 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
1793 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
院長,我最後要跟你談最頭痛的問題了 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
1794 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
1796 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
就是關於死刑犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
1796 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
1799 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
那麼我們37位死刑犯 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
1799 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
1803 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
總算老天懲罰病逝了兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
1803 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
1805 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
那你一上任有槍決一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
1805 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
1807 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
但是現在等於還有34位 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
1807 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
1812 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
34位那麼上回政部長也跟我說對 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
1812 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
1816 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
因為現在要請檢察組長是不是要提出上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
1816 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
1822 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
有啦,兩年來提出兩件上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
1822 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
1824 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
兩位死刑犯上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
1824 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
1826 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
所以,部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
1826 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
1829 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
兩年來才提出兩位上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
1829 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
1835 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
也就是說檢察總統根據那麼多的狀況證據之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
1835 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
1838 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
以他那麼專業的法律見解 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
1838 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
1840 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
他也一年一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
1840 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
1842 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
等於兩年兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
1842 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
1844 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
本來我還盡量 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
1844 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
1846 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
五位不是兩位 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
1846 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
1848 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
五位你覺得五位比兩位多 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
1848 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
1850 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
五位就我跟你講的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
1850 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
1854 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
三位是因為憲法當時解釋的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
1854 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
1856 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
他就同意啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
1856 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
1858 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
所以,對,另外有三位 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
1858 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
1861 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
但是那個不是檢察總長提起上訴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
1861 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
1862 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
1862 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
1864 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
那個是檢察總長提起上訴的 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
1864 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
1868 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
好,你認為五位就很光榮嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
1868 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
1870 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
沒有,就是要嚴格審核 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
1870 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
1872 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
要審核他那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
1872 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
1874 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
我們稍微在這個總質詢的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
1874 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
1876 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
說一年槍斃一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
1876 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
1878 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
我就說那 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
1878 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
1882 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
三十五位槍斃完我們在座可能都坐谷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
1882 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
1884 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
現在更慘 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
1884 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
1886 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
現在原來不是一年要槍斃一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
1886 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
1890 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
一年要提起一位的非常上訴 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
1890 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
1893 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
等於就擺明了就是拖延就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
1893 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
1895 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
一年才上訴一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
1895 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
1898 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
非常上訴又好幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
1898 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
1900 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
非常上訴的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
1900 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
1903 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
還不曉得怎麼樣搞不好他平反啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
1903 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
1905 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
還放他出去咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
1905 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
1906 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
1906 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
1910 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
那現在我們連一年槍斃一位 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
1910 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
1912 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
也等不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
1912 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
1915 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
我真搞不懂這叫什麼司法正義 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
1915 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
1918 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
所以院長我再一次提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
1918 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
1923 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
這些主張廢死的人就是集體的輸尉 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
1923 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
1925 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
他們我送他們八個字啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
1925 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
1927 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
假仁假義 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
1927 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
1929 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
歧視道明 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
1930 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
1932 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
我希望你把這 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
1936 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
1938 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
再再合法承諾一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
1938 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
1941 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
那我們就可以把他死掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
1942 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
1944 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
司法在這個這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
1944 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
1948 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
當初原始金地憲法沒有主張廢死啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
1948 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
1953 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
美國日本中國現在都還在執行死刑 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
1953 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
1956 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
他們的國家都比我們強比我們大 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
1956 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
1959 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
我們也不要再現象清雷了 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
1959 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
1961 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
我們就要繼續執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
1961 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
1963 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
謝謝 |