| IVOD_ID |
171189 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171189 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-6-2 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-06T10:30:59+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-06T10:46:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/854a20f1cd8ea8cad3444b308ae5d26b750e68c775a8b2a4b82e2e2ce10fd65e8618b4638536ef0d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:59 - 10:46:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議(事由:對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。) |
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0.826 |
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SPEAKER_02 |
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石部長崇良 |
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893.62971875 |
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893.96721875 |
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0.818 |
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SPEAKER_00 |
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鄭部長英耀 |
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893.96721875 |
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894.08534375 |
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0.826 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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王委員義川 |
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902.26971875 |
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915.28034375 |
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0.896 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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王委員義川 |
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915.49971875 |
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921.62534375 |
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0.896 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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王委員義川 |
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922.01346875 |
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932.30721875 |
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0.896 |
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SPEAKER_03 |
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王委員義川 |
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935.66534375 |
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935.96909375 |
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0.896 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].start |
0 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].end |
10.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[0].text |
好 謝謝副院長 我們現在請卓院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
10.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
12.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
請卓院長備詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
12.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
14.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
教育部長 一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
14.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
19.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
等一下看法務部或衛福部的題目 需要來上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
19.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
21.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
有需要來上來 好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
26.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
27.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
黃委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
27.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
32.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
好 院長 我今天最主要是要談校園的課題 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
32.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
36.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
接下來 院外防治法修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
36.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
42.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
會有一條叫做 持有電子煙 要罰錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
42.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
48 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
題目是這樣 就是說 持有電子煙要罰3到10萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
48 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
54.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
現在校園 部長還是院長 我們的校園準備好了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
55.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
58.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
卓委員關心 確實我們過去因為電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
58.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
64.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
我們在高級中等學校以下 就有處理的一個流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
64.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
69.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
但是因為當時我們從一個比較教育的一個觀點 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
69.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
72.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
來輔導學生能夠研擬這些煙毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
72.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
76 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
新的這個 遺害防治法 現在在立法院審議 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
76 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
78.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
它確實有這樣的一個規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
78.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
83 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
我們也會跟這一個 所有的學生家長團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
83 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
86.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
還有這個相關的地方 我們來看怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
86.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
89.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
還沒問好 問完了沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
89.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
94.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
這個部分我們也已經在進行 包含對用過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
94.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
96.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
因為我們擔心這一個煙毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
96.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
99.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
現在校園有放那個收集盒了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
101.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
104.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
這一個 未來大概我們會希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
104.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
106.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
在這裡邊先鼓勵同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
106.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
如果只有就能夠先能夠防他佼佼 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
111.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
我們有創一些收集盒嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
113.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
117.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
跟委員報告 我們已經先設計好回收盒 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
117.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
還沒開始喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
118.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
已經散布由各地縣市政府去配置點 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
125.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
主要是配置在衛生所跟我們公務體系比較相關的點去 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
130.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
133.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
OK好 最主要是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
133.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
我們這個電子煙 一開始當然是 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
因為它有防治法裡面新料 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
138.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
142.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
政府就會來設置相關的回收桶 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
142.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
這整個月是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
144.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
整個月之後 如果他通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
146.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
你歡迎通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
148.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
你如果持有的話就有法期 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
150.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
不只吸食 持有的話就有法期 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
152.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
好 問題來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
154.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
校園 小朋友一早電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
158.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
他可能是好奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
160.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
他早上第一次看電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
164.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
上課的時候 輸一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
164.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
166.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
校隔壁的輸一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
166.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
167.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
下課的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
167.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
170.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
一場場的判決 輸一顆 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
170.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
174.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
現在教育部認為這件事情要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
174.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
我想我們教育部當然這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
182.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
我們事實上現在每年都會入班去宣導 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
182.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
185.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
然後包含這裡面一定要讓同學知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
185.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
現在的法令它是禁止的 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
188.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
191.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
所以你基本上你如果持有你就變成已經違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
191.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
193.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
違法要怎樣 部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
193.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
195.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
那個現場違法 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
195.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
199.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
我們過去當然就是先 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
199.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
202.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
在法令還沒有通過之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
202.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
205.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
我們大概都老師就先幫我們採款 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
205.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
206.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
老師喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
206.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
208.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
我今天要問的就是老師啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
208.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
209.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
209.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
212.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
學校有一些是幫派份子啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
212.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
214.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
這個部長你也清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
214.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
216.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
國中高中有一些幫派份子 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
216.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
219.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
那孩子電子煙第一次到後面 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
219.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
222.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
到後面放在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
222.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
226.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
老師說你怎麼帶電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
226.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
228.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
我不能帶喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
228.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
232.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
老師你很壞喔 我不能帶喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
232.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
235.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
我有吸食嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
235.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
237.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
老師你又壞了 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
237.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
240.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
我講話是幫派份子用這種口氣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
240.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
243.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
我們第一現場的老師要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
243.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
245.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
部長你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
245.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
248.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
我們教學現場的老師要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
248.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
所以也跟委員報告感謝委員的一個關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
251.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
256.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
我們確實在從這個月10月1號開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
256.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
259.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我們就地方全國的這個國中 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
259.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
262.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
因為我們高中本來就有校安這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
262.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
265.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
校安人員這個協創人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
265.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
267.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
那國中這一個部份過去是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
267.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
270.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
我知道你們在國中會加校安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
270.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
272.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
你們看這一張啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
272.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
275.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
校園裡頭會出現這些東西啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
275.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
277.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
他如果帶刀啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
277.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
279.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
帶槍啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
279.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
281.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
這你們就報警了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
281.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
抓蛤仔帶毒啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
283.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
287.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
他如果帶兵能 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
287.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
289.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
帶玩具槍 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
289.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
291.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
帶獨步器具 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
291.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
294.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
現在還帶另外一種叫電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
294.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
296.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
我現在畫的這一個九宮格啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
296.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
300.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
對教育部來說這要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
300.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
302.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
一定要界線是對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
302.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
303.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
第一個喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
303.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
307.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
不要去讓學校教學現場的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
307.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
309.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
去處理這條 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
309.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
312.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
老師現在沒辦法處理這 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
312.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
315.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
那孩子各自各樣啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
315.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
318.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
你要叫老師說來你的書包裡面有什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
318.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
319.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
我現在要跟你敲 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
319.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
320.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
現在老師沒有要做這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
320.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
322.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
這個要給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
322.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
325.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
問題是以前這有可能就在他的書包裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
325.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
327.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
在他的身上嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
327.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
329.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
來這個教育部現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
329.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
331.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
跟專科的老師說 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
331.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
333.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
你如果知道有同學 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
333.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
334.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
A同學說 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
334.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
335.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
跟老師說 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
335.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
337.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
那個B同學的包包裡頭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
337.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
338.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
有這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
338.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
341.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
老師怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
341.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
跟我們報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
346.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我們確實就是在國中這校安人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
346.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
349.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
增加兩千名的這個校安人力 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
349.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
351.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
就是希望來協助老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
351.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
353.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
當有學生有類似這樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
353.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
355.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
攜帶一些違禁品的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
355.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
358.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
能夠有校安人力能夠協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
358.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
360.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
到第一線上馬上來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
360.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
361.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
老師做這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
361.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
363.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
現在有這一張表 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
363.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
364.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
這張圖 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
364.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
367.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
就是高級中學以下 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
367.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
370.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
學校電子菸的處理流程 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
370.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
371.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
發現以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
371.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
373.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
你們的設計原來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
373.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
375.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
這電子菸就先保管 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
375.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
378.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
進行校安的通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
378.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
380.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
評估學生的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
380.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
383.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
那如果他確實這個電子菸裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
383.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
有這些毒品的成分體 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
有的沒的就沒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
387.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
388.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
就沒一樣的風險 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
388.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
389.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
你今天要把下身 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
叫他扣掉那個電子菸 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
393.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
394.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
這句話誰要開嘴 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
395.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
396.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
398.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
報告委員我分幾個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
398.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
399.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
學校衛生法只規定說 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
401.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
禁止吸菸禁止吸電子菸等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
405.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
他並沒有把它強制 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
407.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
現在我們在《菸害防治法》正在大院審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
411.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
會把這一件持有 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
411.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
當作一個違法的行為 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
再下來就是如果從 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
415.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
他被我們看到被老師看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
當然我們依法有據 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
418.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
420.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
未來卻可以把他沒收 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
420.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
422.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
或是他主動提來繳交 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
422.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
424.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
誰去把他沒收 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
424.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
425.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
現在如果是放在書包 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
425.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
426.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
放在隱密的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
426.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
427.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
目前來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
427.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
429.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
我想整個氛圍大概很難 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
429.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
431.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
去對學生做身上上的碰觸 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
431.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
434.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
或是甚至說類似搜索 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
434.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
436.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
那我們也不可能像電視演的 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
436.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
437.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
鐵拳教育一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
437.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
有這樣的老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
438.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
439.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
所以我們希望教安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
439.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
441.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
未來我們現在雖然成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
441.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
442.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
所謂春輝小組 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
442.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
445.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
這應該是比較靜態的輔導措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
445.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
448.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
未來這個教安人員如何執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
448.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
451.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
在教育部把這個人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
451.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
452.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
人數人員配置之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
452.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
454.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
他會做一個教育行前的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
454.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
455.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
之前的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
455.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
458.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
部長這個院長講得很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
458.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
459.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
就是說這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
459.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
461.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
要請教安人員去執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
462.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
463.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
463.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
464.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
目前是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
464.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
465.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
我做導師嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
465.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
我知道你孩子扣地面 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
467.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
468.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
裡面有電子煙 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
468.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
469.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
469.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
470.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
我也有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
470.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
471.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
我也有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
472.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
474.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
我沒辦法去開口 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
474.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
老師沒去開這個口 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
475.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
478.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
說你電子煙拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
478.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
如果打到崩壞分子 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
481.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
他說老師你很壞喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
483.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
484.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
487.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
老師你不要增加老師的負擔 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
487.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
490.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
好那現在國家決定用校安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
490.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
492.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
那校安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
492.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
494.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
校安人員去跟他要的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
494.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
495.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
他會交出來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
496.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
497.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
他不交呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
498.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
499.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
部長你有沒有想到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
499.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
500.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
校安人員不交 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
500.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
501.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
在校園裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
502.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
505.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
如果這個校安人員的動作過當 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
505.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
506.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
過當 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
506.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
就是說你給我拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
508.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
509.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
不拿出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
509.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
校安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
510.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
513.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
他也不是警察也不是什麼都不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
513.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
後面喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
514.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
517.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
今天這個校安人員面臨 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
517.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
521.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
這個幫派分子海星的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
521.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
523.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
這個幫派分子海星的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
523.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
525.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
可能也是幫派分子 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
526.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
528.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
他會去派這個校安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
529.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
531.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
他也會去救這個校安人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
532.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
533.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
怎麼處理部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
534.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
535.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
部長你有什麼看法 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
536.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
537.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
537.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
540.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們在委員會審查過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
540.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
542.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
也有對這個來進行討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
542.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
543.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
那當時候大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
543.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
545.2 |
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我們的設計上就是 |
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545.2 |
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546.2 |
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如果這個 |
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547.2 |
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549.2 |
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老師沒有辦法暫時保管 |
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549.2 |
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550.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
因為他只是暫時保管 |
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550.2 |
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552.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
最後還是要有執法人員 |
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552.2 |
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553.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
執法人員就是有 |
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553.2 |
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556.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
暫時這招你做不到 |
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557.2 |
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560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
是由我們衛生局的機察人員 |
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560.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
562.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
就是電子煙害防災機察人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
562.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
564.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
或者是警察來協助 |
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564.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
566.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
然後最後把他做 |
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566.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
567.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
我們來講一下交易現場 |
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567.2 |
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568.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
我記一下 |
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568.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
570.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
假如說加印縣 |
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570.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
573.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
剛好今天早上5點通報 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
573.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
576.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
5點通報這個事情通報 |
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576.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
578.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
我們的衛生局的 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
578.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
沒有資料處理這個 |
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580.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
581.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
疲於奔命 |
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582.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
584.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
你說叫衛生處理不可能 |
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584.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
586.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
他可能是海邊的議題 |
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586.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
588.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
可能是山頂的筆記 |
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588.2 |
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590.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
就是這件事情 |
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590.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
院長我剛講完這個 |
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592.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
我們每次下課都在幹人家的事 |
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594.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
597.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
警察會先叫我去幹人家的事 |
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597.2 |
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599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
校園因為有學生 |
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599.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
601.2 |
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那學生這個校園裡頭的 |
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601.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
603.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
學生的人權 |
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603.2 |
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605.2 |
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學生的這些事情 |
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605.2 |
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607.2 |
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我希望院長這個 |
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607.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
610.2 |
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是不是看什麼人來整合 |
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610.2 |
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612.2 |
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因為這個跟教育部有關 |
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612.2 |
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613.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
衛福部也有關 |
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613.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
614.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
首先說當然我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
614.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
616.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
院外防治法修法之後 |
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616.2 |
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618.2 |
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我們一定會要求校園裡面 |
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618.2 |
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620.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
加強對學生宣導說 |
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620.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
621.2 |
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以後是不能持有 |
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621.2 |
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623.2 |
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這個一定要先灌輸 |
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623.2 |
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624.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
這先處理 |
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624.2 |
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626.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
現場我在傳調 |
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626.2 |
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629.2 |
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不要讓學校的老師 |
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629.2 |
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630.2 |
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增加負擔 |
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630.2 |
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633.2 |
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現在的老師很可憐 |
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633.2 |
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636.2 |
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有的教育部再來再去 |
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636.2 |
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638.2 |
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老師小學老師也很可憐 |
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638.2 |
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640.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
禮拜三的外婆都在處理 |
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640.2 |
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642.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
我想教育部長也很清楚 |
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642.2 |
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645.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
這個先不要消失會議的事情 |
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645.2 |
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646.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
你也很清楚 |
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646.2 |
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647.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
所以不要讓第一線的老師 |
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647.2 |
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648.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
增加負擔 |
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648.2 |
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651.2 |
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第二個就是校安人員 |
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651.2 |
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653.2 |
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校安人員會不會以後 |
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653.2 |
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656.2 |
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成為校安問題 |
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656.2 |
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658.2 |
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校安人員也有不適任的 |
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658.2 |
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659.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
退場機制 |
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659.2 |
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662.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
我們現在對校安人員的進場 |
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662.2 |
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665.2 |
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進場有什麼機制 |
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665.2 |
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666.2 |
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跟委員報告 |
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666.2 |
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668.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我們現在目前規劃的 |
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668.2 |
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671.2 |
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校安人員當然有地方來聘聘 |
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671.2 |
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674.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
但是他至少在聘聘的過程 |
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674.2 |
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675.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
他有一些規範 |
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675.2 |
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678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
譬如說教育人員任用條例 |
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678.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
681.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
違反37條裡邊的相關規定 |
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681.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
682.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
他是不行的 |
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682.2 |
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685.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
當然他也必須要在應聘之前 |
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685.2 |
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687.2 |
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前三個月有一些警察 |
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687.2 |
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689.2 |
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所謂的良民證類似等等的 |
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689.2 |
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690.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
許多積極的 |
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690.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
692.2 |
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跟預防的一些條件 |
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692.2 |
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694.2 |
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第二個就是進來以後 |
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694.2 |
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696.2 |
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我們也這一個半年 |
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697.2 |
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699.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
我來解釋問題 |
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699.2 |
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702.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
校安人員在五年前 |
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702.2 |
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704.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
涉及性傷 |
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704.2 |
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707.2 |
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後來緩起訴 |
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707.2 |
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709.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
不起訴緩起訴 |
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709.2 |
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711.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
他有沒有可能成為校安人員 |
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711.2 |
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714.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
以目前這個教育人員任用條例 |
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714.2 |
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716.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
假設他是輕微的 |
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716.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
719.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
他變成在四年後 |
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719.2 |
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721.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
過四年以後他是具有資格 |
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721.2 |
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724.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
但是我想那都是消極的條件 |
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724.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
727.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
我們學校在遴選校安人員 |
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727.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
730.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
他一定是會有一個更積極的期待 |
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730.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
734.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
譬如說這個人他是有一些法律的背景知識 |
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734.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
737.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
他有一些心理輔導等等相關的專業 |
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737.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
738.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
他也知道怎麼樣 |
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738.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
740.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
部長我告訴你 |
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740.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
742.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
我剛剛舉那個 |
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742.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
744.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
一般校安人員這都沒問題 |
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744.2 |
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746.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
很多人願意來投入 |
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746.2 |
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748.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
第一個就有可能 |
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748.2 |
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752.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
因為我剛剛講光電子煙扣地 |
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752.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
753.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
我拿出來 |
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753.2 |
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755.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
光講這句話 |
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755.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
758.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
這校安人員本身也有風險 |
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758.2 |
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760.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
因為他有可能說完 |
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760.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
762.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
那個阿弟仔下課的時候 |
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762.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
765.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
叫他們把幫拜分子到門口等 |
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765.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
766.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
找那個校安人員 |
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766.2 |
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768.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
說你今天是在幫我們生氣什麼 |
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768.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
771.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
這個校安人員也有風險 |
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771.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
773.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
校安人員本身也有風險 |
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773.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
第二個是校安人員如果過去的紀錄 |
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776.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
779.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
在我們現在消極的條件之下 |
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779.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
781.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
你積和不到他 |
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781.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
782.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
後來事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
782.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
784.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
講說他又在學校裡頭 |
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784.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
785.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
又搞這些事情 |
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785.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
786.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
後來才發現說 |
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786.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
787.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
原來他五年前 |
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787.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
789.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
六年前七年前 |
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789.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
792.2 |
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曾經也做過同樣的事情 |
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792.2 |
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795.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
我要談的是說請這個部裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
795.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
798.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
對這些資格恐怕這個重新 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
798.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
800.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
讓我們家庭放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
800.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
801.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
家長放心 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
801.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
802.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
謝謝委員提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
802.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
804.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
我想這我們一定會 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
804.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
806.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
這一個跟地方教育局處 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
806.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
808.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
地方政府有這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
808.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
812.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
非常密切的意見上的一個共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
812.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
815.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
另外一個就是剛才委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
815.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
818.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
其實我們現在特別在中學 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
818.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
國高中 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
819.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
823.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
大概學校裡邊都跟地方的派出所 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
823.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
都有一個緊急的熱線 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
827.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
829.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
也就是說學校有一些比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
829.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
830.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
如委員所提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
830.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
833.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
這些比較重大的或者偶發的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
833.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
834.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
事實上 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
834.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
836.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
你說的就是地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
836.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
838.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我是希望今天院長提的 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
838.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
841.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
因為有一些狀況是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
841.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
843.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
地方的家長 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
843.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
847.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
他可能就是地方的惡霸 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
848.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
850.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
你怎麼申訴申訴到不去 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
850.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
854.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
從這個惡霸出來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
854.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
857.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
給教育局縣市教育局壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
857.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
859.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
處理不來 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
859.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
861.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
我們的老師在第一教學現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
861.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
863.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
有時候要回去找 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
863.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
所以我最後具體建議兩件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
865.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
866.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
866.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
第一個讓教師能夠檢查 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
869.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
871.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
教育部要成立一個專責 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
871.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
874.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
不管你們單位機構還是系統 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
874.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
878.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
接受教的中小學老師 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
878.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
880.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
你要支援他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
880.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
現在的狀況是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
881.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
中小學老師在學校裡頭投訴無門 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
885.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
888.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
來教育部的email都關頭信息 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
888.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
889.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
回來回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
889.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
你去問地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
891.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
892.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
地方就說沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
892.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
893.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
查完就沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
893.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
要給第一線的老師資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
895.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
897.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
而且要由中央來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
897.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
不要透過地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
898.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
900.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
透過地方會有很複雜 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
900.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
綿密的關係在 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
901.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
這第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
902.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
第二個 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
903.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
905.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
校安要進場處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
905.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
我剛剛提的那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
906.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
907.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
包括電子業務 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
907.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
908.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
包括相關的東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
908.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
910.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
因為是在校園裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
910.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
912.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
不是在那一般的社會 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
912.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
要去建立一個可執行的機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
915.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
916.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
否則的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
916.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
你們那個流程表畫得再好 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
918.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
最後那個老師不敢出口出手 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
921.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
校安人員就不敢問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
923.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
你的電子業務告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
925.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
他就不敢開口的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
927.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
這個機制現場無法執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
929.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
931.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
就不好了啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
931.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
933.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
以上把這個 |