| IVOD_ID |
171188 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171188 |
| 日期 |
2026-10-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-6-2 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
6 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
2 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-10-06T09:49:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-10-06T10:20:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:30:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/854a20f1cd8ea8cace11a4bbdc24fc75750e68c775a8b2a4b82e2e2ce10fd65e22361ff6ef9879315ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪毓祥 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:49:11 - 10:20:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-10-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第6會期第2次會議（事由：對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。） |
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0 |
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黃毓祥委員質詢 |
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17.32 |
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18.72 |
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好 謝謝副院長 |
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18.72 |
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20.96 |
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好 那我們有請卓院長 |
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20.96 |
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22.96 |
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請卓院長備詢 |
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30 |
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32 |
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黃毓好 |
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32 |
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34 |
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好 院長好 |
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34 |
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38 |
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那我想今天第一個議題來講的話呢 |
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38 |
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42 |
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就是我們昨天的話呢 |
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42 |
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46 |
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過去接獲一堆的住外人員的一個爆料 |
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46 |
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50 |
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那我們開完這個黨團的記者會 |
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50 |
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我相信院長也看到 |
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52 |
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54 |
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我想先問院長 |
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54 |
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56 |
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其實我蠻敬佩院長的 |
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56 |
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60 |
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起碼院長是自費到日本去看棒球 |
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60 |
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64 |
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那應該您在你的公務行程裡頭 |
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64 |
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68 |
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應該有沒有帶家人啊什麼這些同行嗎? |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
68 |
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70 |
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公務行程 |
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70 |
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72 |
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如何? |
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72 |
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76 |
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如果有一些行程必定要帶家人的話 |
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76 |
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78 |
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那他會註明 |
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78 |
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80 |
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那我這兩年當中是沒有發生過這種事情 |
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80 |
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82 |
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OK 好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
82 |
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84 |
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那基本上來講的話呢 |
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84 |
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86 |
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我想在這一塊地方的話 |
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86 |
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88 |
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也就是說在這一個過去來講 |
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88 |
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90 |
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我們除了在8月揭露 |
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90 |
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94 |
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這個東沙的生態體驗營的活動等等 |
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94 |
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96 |
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當然這個監察院有認定 |
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96 |
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98 |
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是違反了這個立場法 |
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98 |
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100 |
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那接下來的話呢 |
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100 |
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102 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
102 |
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104 |
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我們再根據這樣子的爆料 |
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104 |
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106 |
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我們再往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
108 |
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110 |
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那當然除了這一個 |
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110 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
112 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
當然除了這一個 |
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112 |
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114 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
退資費 |
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114 |
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118 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
當然出差領退資費當然這個無可厚非了 |
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118 |
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120 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
但是這個有點誇張 |
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120 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
122 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
再下一頁 |
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122 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
126 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
那出國的碳數我們跟過去的委員長做比較 |
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126 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
128 |
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也是非常的誇張 |
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128 |
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132 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
當然可能有其任務的需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
132 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
但是這一個天數 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
134 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
136 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
實在是有點扯 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
136 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
138 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
從111年到這樣子的話 |
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138 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
不止的暴增 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
140 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
142 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
144 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
那為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
144 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
146 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
因為諮詢人士就爆料了 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
146 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
150 |
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這個是一個國家的一個高階的官員的訪團 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
150 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
154 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
那為什麼還有十幾歲的兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
154 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
156 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
包裝成這樣子的一個攝影 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
156 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
160 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
所以這個實際的外館的人看到 |
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160 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
162 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
有點shock |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
162 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
164 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
164 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
166 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
那往這邊的公帑 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
166 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
168 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
那往這邊的公帑 |
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168 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
170 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
食物交通接送 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
170 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
我們也不曉得 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
172 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
174 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
這個是不是真的有使用這樣的公費 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
174 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
176 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
176 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
178 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
那出席的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
178 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
180 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
這個都是人家調介 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
180 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
182 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
或者是住院的人提供的 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
182 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
那在這裡頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
186 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
各位可以看到上一張的 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
186 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
這個目前的照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
那手機在滑的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
190 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
192 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
我們就要想 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
192 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
既然都是號稱機密行程 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
194 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
不可以跟立法委員報告 |
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196 |
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198 |
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但是這樣子的話 |
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198 |
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200 |
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在使用手機的時候 |
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200 |
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202 |
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我就很懷疑 |
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202 |
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204 |
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是不是有國家機密的問題 |
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那我們做完這樣子的回覆的時候 |
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206 |
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210 |
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其實我是要請外交部次長 |
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210 |
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212 |
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其他兩位可以先請回 |
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212 |
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214 |
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我們也要問相關法律的問題 |
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214 |
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我只是想問調查的問題 |
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216 |
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218 |
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謝謝 |
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218 |
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220 |
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謝謝 |
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222 |
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224 |
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那是不是可以有時間讓委員長 |
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224 |
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自己說明當時或是 |
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226 |
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228 |
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現在他應該跟委員解釋 |
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228 |
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230 |
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沒關係我們先請外交部 |
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230 |
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就是說因為昨天外交部針對 |
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232 |
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234 |
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事情的一個回覆 |
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234 |
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236 |
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那我也覺得說應該就是 |
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236 |
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238 |
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組成一個獨立的調查 |
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238 |
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240 |
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那所以呢 |
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240 |
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242 |
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基本上我是有幾個建議 |
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242 |
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第一個 |
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244 |
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就是在做這個公務車 |
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246 |
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的一個使用的時候 |
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248 |
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250 |
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有沒有違反我們駐外機構 |
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250 |
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252 |
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公務車的車輛的 |
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252 |
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254 |
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換購跟管理的要點 |
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254 |
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256 |
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那如果以北美 |
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256 |
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258 |
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這個的話是公務車是處長 |
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258 |
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260 |
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負責管理 |
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260 |
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262 |
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涉及的可能還包含華府中心的主任 |
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262 |
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264 |
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副主任 |
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264 |
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266 |
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僱員然後另外還有 |
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266 |
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268 |
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美處的行政組 |
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268 |
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270 |
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因為他負責的是車輛的管理 |
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270 |
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272 |
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另外還有政治組 |
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272 |
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274 |
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因為對口是國務院 |
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274 |
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276 |
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所以我們的車牌掛的是 |
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276 |
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278 |
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EBA的車牌 |
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278 |
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280 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
另外的話還有我們的會計組 |
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280 |
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282 |
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因為你要查你的里程數 |
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282 |
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284 |
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藍調的使用費 |
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284 |
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286 |
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那另外可能 |
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286 |
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288 |
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也要詢問一下當時的余大使 |
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288 |
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290 |
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以及駐德國的 |
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290 |
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292 |
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謝志偉大使 |
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292 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
我們都希望外交部能夠 |
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294 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
秉持獨立調查的原則 |
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296 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
298 |
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那昨天部長 |
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298 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
在你們外交部的回覆的 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
302 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
新聞稿也回覆了 |
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302 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
304 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
那我是非常肯定的 |
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304 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
但是呢你可以告訴我 |
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306 |
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308 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
你們現在在內部 |
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308 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
310 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
會不會組成獨立的 |
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310 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
調查小組 |
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312 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
314 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
報告委員因為我們是昨天才 |
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314 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
這件事情 |
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316 |
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318 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
並沒有任何人向外交部 |
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318 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
提出檢舉 |
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320 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
昨天民眾黨開記者會 |
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322 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
324 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
之後我們已經召開會議 |
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324 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
326 |
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然後請我們外館釐清真相 |
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326 |
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328 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
這點已經開始在做了 |
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328 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
330 |
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那這個調查的程序要多久 |
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330 |
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332 |
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我們已經開始啟動了 |
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332 |
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334 |
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那調查程序我們就等 |
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334 |
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336 |
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外館給我們回報 |
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336 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
我們再來跟委員做報告 |
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338 |
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340 |
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好因為基本上來講的話 |
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340 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
342 |
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院長在早上對記者的 |
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342 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
回覆也是責成 |
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344 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
外交部嘛就這些 |
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346 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
公務使用的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
做詳盡獨立的一個調查 |
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350 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
352 |
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因為我覺得這一點是 |
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352 |
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354 |
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很重要如果真的調查 |
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354 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
沒有所謂的這種爆料的 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
情勢的事情 |
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358 |
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360 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
那當然就是還我們許家英委員的清白 |
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360 |
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362 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
但是如果有 |
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362 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
那我們也希望看到 |
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364 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
詳細的這些的 |
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366 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
調查的紀錄 |
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368 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
研究報告因為國人對這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
372 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
深惡痛絕 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
372 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
報告委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
剛才你提供資料 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
跟謝志偉大使那時候我也是駐化大使 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
所以應該在同時 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
許家英委員也有到法處來 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
並沒有所謂 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
攝影觀這個情形發生 |
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386 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
這個反正你就好好調查 |
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388 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
因為 |
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390 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
我們今天後的爆料是 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
如雪片般的飛 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
然後都有提供照片 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
396 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
還有提供私下的錄音 |
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398 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
我們只是沒有完全播放 |
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400 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
那所以基本上我還是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
你們勿枉勿重 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
然後好好地去調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
因為我自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
從進入產業接到 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
外商到產業工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
我每年非 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
我每天都會出國考察開會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
非常平凡 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
但我從來沒有帶什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
家人親戚 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
一起公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
我們早上到了美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
就是立刻開會 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
飛美國的話就12點多 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
早上到我9點半10點 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
我們就開會開完後 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
436 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我們可能再飛下一個地方開會等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
436 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
所以我是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
如果在我們民間產業人士都這麼拼命的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
440 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
我不希望看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
既失這樣的精神 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
那如果是自費 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
合乎這樣子的公務 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
使用規定合乎公務這樣使用規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
那就是把所有的 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
454 |
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調查的結果調查的單據 |
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454 |
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456 |
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里程數這些全部都查清楚 |
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456 |
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458 |
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好不好 |
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458 |
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460 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
以上這件事情就拜託外交部 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
460 |
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462 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
462 |
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464 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
好下一個的話 |
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464 |
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466 |
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我想從這邊 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
466 |
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468 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
我們來看的話就是說 |
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468 |
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470 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
想要請教院長的 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
470 |
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472 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
就是說在這個 |
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472 |
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474 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
追加預算裡面 |
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476 |
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478 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
我要把我們立法院的預算中心 |
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478 |
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480 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
說一下話 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
480 |
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482 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
也就是說根據 |
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482 |
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484 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
我們立法院預算中心 |
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486 |
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488 |
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預算法第二條的明文規定 |
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488 |
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490 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
在立法程序 |
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490 |
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492 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
而公佈才叫 |
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492 |
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494 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
法定預算 |
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494 |
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496 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
可是基本上 |
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496 |
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498 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
總統公佈115年度的 |
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498 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
總預算是在9月18號 |
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500 |
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502 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
可是你們9月3號 |
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502 |
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504 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
通過9月8號 |
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504 |
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506 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
就把追加預算函 |
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506 |
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508 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
函上立法院 |
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508 |
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510 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
所以我們預算中心才會說 |
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510 |
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512 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
這個是有事法性的問題 |
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512 |
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514 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
也就是說我115年度 |
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514 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
的總預算還沒有經過 |
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516 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
總統公佈還不構成法定 |
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518 |
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520 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
預算的時候 |
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520 |
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522 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
那你行政院是根據哪一條法律 |
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522 |
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524 |
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可以把刪除後 |
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524 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
尚未通過的預算案 |
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526 |
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528 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
先視同法定預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
530 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
哪一條法律 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
主席長 |
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534 |
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536 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
也可以回答沒關係 |
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536 |
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538 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
預算法它也沒有明文規定 |
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538 |
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540 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
追加預算提出的時程 |
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540 |
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542 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
它只有規定預算 |
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542 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
追加預算提出的一個條件 |
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544 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
那現在我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
546 |
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548 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
8月14三讀已經有確認 |
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548 |
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550 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
所以就 |
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550 |
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552 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
沒有喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
根據79條第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
上4月因重大事故 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
556 |
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558 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
經過超過法定 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
預算時得提出 |
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560 |
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562 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
追加預算 |
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562 |
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564 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
然後預算法第二條告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
566 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
經立法程序而 |
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566 |
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568 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
公佈者 |
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568 |
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570 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
成法定預算 |
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570 |
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572 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
我還沒公佈啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
572 |
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574 |
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9月18才公佈啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
然後你的回答是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
你有回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
你們是有回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
你們回答是怎麼回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
那邊你們呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
立法院三讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
通過了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
金額已徵明確 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
這是哪一個法律的要件 |
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596 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
報告委員預算法裡面 |
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598 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
剛剛主席長說的 |
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600 |
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602 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
它對追加預算提出 |
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602 |
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604 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
有四個要件 |
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604 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
它並沒有說一定要在哪一個程序 |
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606 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
之後才能去提出 |
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608 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
但今天追加 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
預算的時間提出 |
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612 |
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614 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
總預算的通過在後 |
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614 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
問題在大院 |
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616 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
不在行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
是你們延誤了351天才造成這個狀況 |
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620 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
況且 |
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622 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
追加預算的內容 |
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624 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
沒有在填補 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
扯不完 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
因為那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
它的簽証的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
就是你的這個法案幾個都不附屬 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
不公告不執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
636 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
所以如果現在主計處的回答就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
立法院三讀通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
總統還沒有公告 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
642 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
那就是示威法律了 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
正式法律了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
這是我們預算中心給你的第二波的回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
再回覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
650 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
報告委員追加預算我們提出的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
652 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
654 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
穩定民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
654 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
增加社福調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
沒有因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
660 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
預算被刪除之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
660 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
662 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
來填補原來的預算 |
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662 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
我從日期來看 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
666 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
從中到二級 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
668 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
670 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
9月18號如果我們公佈了 |
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670 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
672 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
你現在9月19號 |
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672 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
674 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
送都可以啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
674 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
676 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
676 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
678 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
你不急我們很急 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
678 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
680 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
現在已經剩下兩個月三個月 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
680 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
682 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
如果急的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
682 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
684 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
也是9月18號公佈之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
684 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
686 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
才送嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
686 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
我現在只是講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
這樣的天數才差十天 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
692 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
我們重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
692 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
要盡快把這幾項工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
696 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
能夠在追加預算通過之後做好 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
696 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
事先準備我都同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
700 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
但請遵照法定的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
700 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
我們遵照預算法裡面的 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
702 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
要件來提出這 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
704 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
706 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
相關6076億的追加預算 |
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706 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
但是符合預算法的四個要件 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
710 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
我現在不是說你不能提嘛 |
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710 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
我現在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
712 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
你就遵照程序從19號提 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
8號到19號 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
716 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
再請主席講說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
718 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
是不是一定要在總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
都完全單獨通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
如果公佈之後我們才有 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
依法才能夠提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
728 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
我剛剛已經唸了請回去看一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
728 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
預算法第二條跟79條第三款 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
好再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
我沒有否定你不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
提追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
740 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
我只是說你就19號 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
18號公佈之後提 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
沒有差 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
這五六天時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
我們那個時候根本不知道大院要什麼時候送到行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
752 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
把預算送過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
752 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
9月初的時候我們知道嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
754 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
我們都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
所以啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
760 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
9月18號這個我們不跟你吵 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
760 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
所以我是希望說未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
能夠先跟立法院溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
766 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
我們又不是你的立法局 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
766 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
768 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
768 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
770 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
8月14號 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
770 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
772 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
772 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
774 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
我們一直等到9月初還沒有看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
774 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
776 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
預算書的 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
776 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
778 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
你現在圖的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
778 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
780 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
這是零七十二億的追加的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
780 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
782 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
來院長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
782 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
784 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
你的名字叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
786 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我的名字 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
790 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
穩定民生社福加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
790 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
追加預算你的稱呼是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
794 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
還有提升待遇災後重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
794 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
796 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
強化國防還有提供兒童 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
796 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
成長今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
800 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
反正這個地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
800 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
802 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
802 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
穩定民生社福加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
強化國防等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
請問社福加碼多少錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
810 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
調整老農年金 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
810 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
812 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
65億及國民年金 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
812 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
814 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
215億 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
814 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
816 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
及其他六大社會社福 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
816 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
818 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
共有215億 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
818 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
820 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
215億 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
820 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
822 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
佔3.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
822 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
穩定民生其中 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
4213億 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
佔了69.3% |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
830 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
接近7成 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
830 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
832 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
其中都是能源嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
832 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
834 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
中油增資中油撥補台電撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
834 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
836 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
所以說 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
836 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
國防的維持區相關嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
840 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
另外強化國防佔了24% |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
840 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
842 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
那我現在的問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
842 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
844 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
真正在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
844 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
846 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
社福加碼是 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
846 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
848 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
佔了3.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
848 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
850 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
其他 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
850 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
852 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
你的中油增資撥補台電撥補 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
852 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
這些總共佔了將近7成 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
856 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
強化國防 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
856 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
佔了24% |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
860 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
860 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
862 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
所以你的社福加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
862 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
864 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
我把提升大運 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
864 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
866 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
災後重建 兒少成長今天都給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
866 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
868 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
雙方你算進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
868 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
870 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
提升大運111億 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
870 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
872 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
災後重建70 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
872 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
874 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
兒少成長今天3億 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
874 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
876 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
的全資金準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
876 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
878 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
那個加起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
878 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
880 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
也差不多才將近 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
880 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
882 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
300多接近 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
882 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
884 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
400億 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
884 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
886 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
穩定民生 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
886 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
888 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
6千多億才佔 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
888 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
890 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
400億的社福加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
890 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
892 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
穩定物價是穩定全民的生活 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
892 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
894 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
穩定社會的經濟 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
894 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
896 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
你不能把它割裂為 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
896 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
898 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
跟某一些人無關 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
898 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
900 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
那我們特別加重在 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
900 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
902 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
社福加碼是在全民之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
902 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
904 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
加重這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
904 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
906 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
那是往上加才對 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
906 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
908 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
穩定民生那個叫做 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
908 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
910 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
替錯誤的能源政策買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
910 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
912 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
這個是比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
912 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
914 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
現實的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
914 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
916 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
現實的說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
916 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
918 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
我現在的問題就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
918 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
920 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
我們常常又會用一個手段 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
920 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
922 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
一個手法就是情緒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
922 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
924 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
勒索 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
924 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
926 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
勤勒 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
926 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
928 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
也就是說你們立法院最好在 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
928 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
930 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
11月底是趕快申過這樣子的 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
930 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
932 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
做交易算 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
932 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
934 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
所以我們趕快在9月初送出 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
934 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
936 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
如果不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
936 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
938 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
不通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
938 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
940 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
社福加碼就不見 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
942 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
944 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
你用一個3.25%的 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
944 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
946 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
去綁架其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
946 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
948 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
7成的% |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
948 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
950 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
是其中一部分不是綁架 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
950 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
952 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
所以我們才急著把社交用家 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
952 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
954 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
我舉一個例子給你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
954 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
956 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
老公跟老婆說 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
956 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
958 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
我要拿家用錢去買菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
958 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
960 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
買飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
960 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
962 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
老公也想買車 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
962 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
964 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
把買車的錢包進去 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
966 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
968 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
然後呢接下來呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
968 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
970 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
老婆說哇 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
970 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
972 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
怎麼買菜錢膨脹那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
972 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
974 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
結果一看 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
974 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
976 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
除了買菜多了一些買車的 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
978 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
980 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
老婆就說啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
980 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
982 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
菜錢可以給 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
982 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
984 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
我可以給 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
984 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
986 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
家庭民生生計所需 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
986 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
988 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
但買車的錢是不是可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
988 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
990 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
說清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
990 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
992 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
當然你講的理由都很好 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
992 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
994 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
市場很遠啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
994 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
996 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
我要去集散市場買啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
996 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
998 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
所以我需要車啊摩托車載不了那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
998 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
聽起來都沒有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
1002 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
但是買菜 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
1002 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
1004 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
要買菜錢先給 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
1004 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
1006 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
車子我們可以再商量 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
1006 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
1008 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
沒有不讓你買 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
1008 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
1010 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
商量看是要多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
1010 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
1012 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
買什麼樣的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
1012 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
1014 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
結果呢老公跑出去 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
1014 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
1016 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
跟大家抱怨啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
1016 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
1018 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
我母親賺錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
1018 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
1020 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
我老婆連飯錢都不給 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
1022 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
1024 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
他們都餓死我 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
1024 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
1026 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
我這裡工苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
1026 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
1028 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
我沒辦法吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
1028 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
1030 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
再算起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
1030 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
1032 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
菜籍占3.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
1036 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
1038 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
油跟電是每天都要用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
1038 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
1040 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
它比較像是菜錢飯錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
1040 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
1042 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
我當然知道嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
1042 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
1044 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
我說你都講的很好聽嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
1044 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
1046 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
我的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
1046 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
1048 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
我沒有不給你啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
1048 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
1050 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
我就說既然 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
1050 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
1052 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
社福支出是優先 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
1052 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
1054 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
那幹嘛要綁在一起 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
1054 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
1056 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
然後用這樣情緒勒索 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
1056 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
1058 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
我看我就很討厭啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
1058 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
1060 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
1060 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
1062 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
不是綁在一起是增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
1062 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
1064 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
那你說分開說啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
1064 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
1066 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
如果你的追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
1066 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
1068 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
是只有社福支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
1068 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
1070 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
加上你其他那些重建天天等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
1070 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
1072 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
400多億的 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
1072 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
1074 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
我們追加預算我馬上審啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
1074 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
1076 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
我馬上通過啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
1076 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
1078 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
這也是一種勒索啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
1078 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
1080 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
哪有 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
1080 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
1082 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
你說分高啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
1082 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
1084 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
反正你的多比增資 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
1084 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
1086 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
電價你說不漲了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
1086 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
1088 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
電價你都不漲了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
1088 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
1090 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
物價如果不穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
1090 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
1092 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
電價如果不穩定 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
1092 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
1094 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
全民都會受到傷害 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
1094 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
1096 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
你們電價委員會不是不漲嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
1096 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
1098 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
連土都不漲啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
1098 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
1100 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
對那是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
1100 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
1102 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
我們送出了這個追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
1102 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
1104 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
然後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
1104 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
1106 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
你們電價的基準計算公示 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
1106 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
1108 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
有行政院立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
1108 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
1110 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
要給你多比預算這一條公示嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
1110 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
1112 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
因為這是你們審議委員會 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
1112 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
1114 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
做的決議 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
1114 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
1116 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
電價計算公示裡頭有做一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
1116 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
1118 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
因為他們知道說 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
1118 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
1120 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
所以立法院沒有不給 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
1120 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
1122 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
你就要調漲電價 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
1122 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
1124 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
我要看那個審議委員會的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
1124 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
1126 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
我沒有辦法做決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
1126 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
1128 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
報告委員每一週的油價 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
1128 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
1130 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
現在已經吸收了 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
1130 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
1132 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
中油吸收了超過200億元 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
1132 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
1134 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
每一週都在想說 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
1134 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
1136 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
要不要調調或不調 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
1136 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
1138 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
所以我說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
1138 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
1140 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
大家可以請罰官 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
1140 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
1142 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
把油價給凍結下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
1142 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
1144 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
所以說是有一個追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
1144 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
1146 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
能夠讓中油的能源能夠正常 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
1146 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
1148 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
這個我們幫你追加預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
1148 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
1150 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
可以好好討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
1150 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
1152 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
我只是說這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
1152 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
1154 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
我覺得請分開 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
1154 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
1156 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
好好地審慎處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
1156 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
1158 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
再來 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
1158 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
1160 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
我也想問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
1160 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
1162 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
普發1萬對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
1162 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
1164 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
之前副總召也在問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
1164 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
1166 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
為什麼不能普發2萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
1166 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
1168 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
我當然也不是這樣看這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
1168 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
1170 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
我稍微去把你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
1170 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
1172 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
我們把我們的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
1172 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
1174 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
從110年統計了5年 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
1174 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
1176 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
我們的稅入決算 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
1176 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
1178 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
跟稅出決算的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
1178 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
1180 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
其實再加上 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
1180 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
1182 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
我們超增稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].start |
1182 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
1184 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
1184 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
1186 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
我們可以看到110年的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].start |
1186 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
1188 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
稅入扣稅出的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].start |
1188 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
1190 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
有正的 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].start |
1190 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
1192 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
2979億 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].start |
1192 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
1194 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
111年是4993億 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].start |
1194 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
1196 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
112年是2796億 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
1196 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
1198 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
113年是3597億 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
1198 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
1200 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
114年 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
1200 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
1202 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
其實我們的稅入扣稅出 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
1202 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
1204 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
基本上平均都有 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].start |
1204 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
1206 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
3000億到4000億 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].start |
1206 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
1208 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
5000億左右之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].start |
1208 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
1210 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
平均大概落在3000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].start |
1210 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
1212 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
我們超增稅收的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].start |
1212 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
1214 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
大概普遍也都是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].start |
1214 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
1216 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
3000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].start |
1216 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
1218 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
今年可能更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].start |
1218 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
1220 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
這個時候我們就看 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].start |
1220 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
1222 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
這5年我們的GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
1222 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
1224 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
從21.77兆升到 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
1224 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
1226 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
28.72兆增加6.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
1226 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
1228 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
成長是32% |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
1228 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
1230 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
我們的稅入的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].start |
1230 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].end |
1232 |
| transcript.whisperx[572].text |
在這5年當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].start |
1232 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].end |
1234 |
| transcript.whisperx[573].text |
也大概增加約33% |
| transcript.whisperx[574].start |
1234 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].end |
1236 |
| transcript.whisperx[574].text |
大概跟我們的GDP成長的幅度 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].start |
1236 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].end |
1238 |
| transcript.whisperx[575].text |
差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].start |
1238 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].end |
1240 |
| transcript.whisperx[576].text |
那我把政府的稅出 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].start |
1240 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].end |
1242 |
| transcript.whisperx[577].text |
算了一下 增加約40% |
| transcript.whisperx[578].start |
1242 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].end |
1244 |
| transcript.whisperx[578].text |
我們的政府很厲害 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].start |
1244 |
| transcript.whisperx[579].end |
1246 |
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花的錢在邊運算的時候 |
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1246 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].end |
1248 |
| transcript.whisperx[580].text |
賺的錢成長比例還要高 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].start |
1250 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].end |
1252 |
| transcript.whisperx[581].text |
這公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].start |
1252 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].end |
1254 |
| transcript.whisperx[582].text |
我想要問院長 行政院到底有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].start |
1254 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].end |
1256 |
| transcript.whisperx[583].text |
一個財政紀律的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].start |
1256 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].end |
1258 |
| transcript.whisperx[584].text |
就是說政府的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].start |
1258 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].end |
1260 |
| transcript.whisperx[585].text |
沒有 我現在是問你標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].start |
1260 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].end |
1262 |
| transcript.whisperx[586].text |
公事 我們學理工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].start |
1262 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].end |
1264 |
| transcript.whisperx[587].text |
就是你們這個支出的上限 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].start |
1264 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].end |
1266 |
| transcript.whisperx[588].text |
有沒有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].start |
1266 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].end |
1268 |
| transcript.whisperx[589].text |
到底是多少的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].start |
1268 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].end |
1270 |
| transcript.whisperx[590].text |
棒的 你不能說 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].start |
1270 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].end |
1272 |
| transcript.whisperx[591].text |
我才賺3塊 然後你花4塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].start |
1274 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].end |
1276 |
| transcript.whisperx[592].text |
我們民意出的 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].start |
1276 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].end |
1278 |
| transcript.whisperx[593].text |
明年的中央政府總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].start |
1278 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].end |
1280 |
| transcript.whisperx[594].text |
稅出稅入達到平衡 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].start |
1280 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].end |
1282 |
| transcript.whisperx[595].text |
3兆9,260是平衡的 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].start |
1282 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].end |
1284 |
| transcript.whisperx[596].text |
我們並沒有超越 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].start |
1284 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].end |
1286 |
| transcript.whisperx[597].text |
所以這個是因為我們的GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[598].start |
1286 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].end |
1288 |
| transcript.whisperx[598].text |
增加了 我們是因為整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].start |
1288 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].end |
1290 |
| transcript.whisperx[599].text |
經濟發展 政府必須做更多的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].start |
1290 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].end |
1292 |
| transcript.whisperx[600].text |
本身的投資跟協助民間的投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].start |
1292 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].end |
1294 |
| transcript.whisperx[601].text |
都要政府來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].start |
1294 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].end |
1296 |
| transcript.whisperx[602].text |
政策性的引導 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].start |
1296 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].end |
1298 |
| transcript.whisperx[603].text |
才會更加的向民間的發展起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].start |
1300 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].end |
1302 |
| transcript.whisperx[604].text |
我的財務的概念跟投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].start |
1302 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].end |
1304 |
| transcript.whisperx[605].text |
企業經營也不會比各位差 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].start |
1304 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].end |
1306 |
| transcript.whisperx[606].text |
我現在想問的 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].start |
1306 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].end |
1308 |
| transcript.whisperx[607].text |
就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].start |
1308 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].end |
1310 |
| transcript.whisperx[608].text |
你們常常講 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].start |
1310 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].end |
1312 |
| transcript.whisperx[609].text |
你這個普發1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].start |
1312 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].end |
1314 |
| transcript.whisperx[610].text |
到底怎麼算的 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].start |
1314 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].end |
1316 |
| transcript.whisperx[611].text |
因為我們會有既有的稅入 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].start |
1316 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].end |
1318 |
| transcript.whisperx[612].text |
稅出 超收真收的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].start |
1318 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].end |
1320 |
| transcript.whisperx[613].text |
那超收的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].start |
1320 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].end |
1322 |
| transcript.whisperx[614].text |
基本上我們當然都得 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].start |
1322 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].end |
1324 |
| transcript.whisperx[615].text |
我明年可以不用舉債 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].start |
1324 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].end |
1326 |
| transcript.whisperx[616].text |
再來我一定要是還債 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].start |
1326 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].end |
1328 |
| transcript.whisperx[617].text |
看你是還長債還短債 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].start |
1328 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].end |
1330 |
| transcript.whisperx[618].text |
還是還本 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].start |
1330 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].end |
1332 |
| transcript.whisperx[619].text |
接下來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].start |
1332 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].end |
1334 |
| transcript.whisperx[620].text |
你這個才會納入到稅季的 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].start |
1334 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].end |
1336 |
| transcript.whisperx[621].text |
年度稅季的剩餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].start |
1336 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].end |
1338 |
| transcript.whisperx[622].text |
年度的稅季剩餘 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].start |
1338 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].end |
1340 |
| transcript.whisperx[623].text |
年度的稅季剩餘才往下去說 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].start |
1340 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].end |
1342 |
| transcript.whisperx[624].text |
大部分我們過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].start |
1342 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].end |
1344 |
| transcript.whisperx[625].text |
就是特別條例的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].start |
1344 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].end |
1346 |
| transcript.whisperx[626].text |
不管是風災水災 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].start |
1346 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].end |
1348 |
| transcript.whisperx[627].text |
或者是相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].start |
1348 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].end |
1350 |
| transcript.whisperx[628].text |
一些的一個預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].start |
1350 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].end |
1352 |
| transcript.whisperx[629].text |
特別預算來使用 |
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1352 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].end |
1354 |
| transcript.whisperx[630].text |
我覺得問題是說這每一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].start |
1354 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].end |
1356 |
| transcript.whisperx[631].text |
都有一個市值 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].start |
1356 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].end |
1358 |
| transcript.whisperx[632].text |
我想要知道的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].start |
1358 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].end |
1360 |
| transcript.whisperx[633].text |
你們的參數%數是怎麼定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].start |
1360 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].end |
1362 |
| transcript.whisperx[634].text |
詳細數是 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].start |
1362 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].end |
1364 |
| transcript.whisperx[635].text |
不是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].start |
1364 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].end |
1366 |
| transcript.whisperx[636].text |
我們在第一次跟總統報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].start |
1366 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].end |
1368 |
| transcript.whisperx[637].text |
明年做總預算的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].start |
1368 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].end |
1370 |
| transcript.whisperx[638].text |
是沒有1萬塊的 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].start |
1370 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].end |
1372 |
| transcript.whisperx[639].text |
這個主俱跟財政應該清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].start |
1372 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].end |
1374 |
| transcript.whisperx[640].text |
隨便一個回答 |
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1374 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].end |
1376 |
| transcript.whisperx[641].text |
我們本來 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].start |
1376 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].end |
1378 |
| transcript.whisperx[642].text |
還債還的金額是比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].start |
1378 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].end |
1380 |
| transcript.whisperx[643].text |
我們認為只要符合公債法 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].start |
1380 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].end |
1382 |
| transcript.whisperx[644].text |
就可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].start |
1382 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].end |
1384 |
| transcript.whisperx[645].text |
所以少還了大概200多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].start |
1384 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].end |
1386 |
| transcript.whisperx[646].text |
另外把增加的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].start |
1386 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].end |
1388 |
| transcript.whisperx[647].text |
大概600多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].start |
1388 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].end |
1390 |
| transcript.whisperx[648].text |
600、700億 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].start |
1390 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].end |
1392 |
| transcript.whisperx[649].text |
另外我們在舉金還救 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].start |
1392 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].end |
1394 |
| transcript.whisperx[650].text |
沒有增加實質的債務 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].start |
1394 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].end |
1396 |
| transcript.whisperx[651].text |
我們現在是2370億左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].start |
1396 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].end |
1398 |
| transcript.whisperx[652].text |
這不會很難用 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].start |
1398 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].end |
1400 |
| transcript.whisperx[653].text |
再花1萬塊不用舉債 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].start |
1400 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].end |
1402 |
| transcript.whisperx[654].text |
我答應過公司產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].start |
1402 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].end |
1404 |
| transcript.whisperx[655].text |
我希望政府就跟我們產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].start |
1404 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].end |
1406 |
| transcript.whisperx[656].text |
跟我們公司是一樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].start |
1406 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].end |
1408 |
| transcript.whisperx[657].text |
事實上來講你應該是要有一個參數 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].start |
1408 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].end |
1410 |
| transcript.whisperx[658].text |
參數你可以去調 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].start |
1410 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].end |
1412 |
| transcript.whisperx[659].text |
我賺的錢超過多少金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].start |
1412 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].end |
1414 |
| transcript.whisperx[660].text |
所以我就要決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].start |
1414 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].end |
1416 |
| transcript.whisperx[661].text |
我多少起碼是不用借錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].start |
1416 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].end |
1418 |
| transcript.whisperx[662].text |
我們在網上決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].start |
1418 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].end |
1420 |
| transcript.whisperx[663].text |
我們沒有實質增加債務 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].start |
1420 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].end |
1422 |
| transcript.whisperx[664].text |
先聽我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].start |
1422 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].end |
1424 |
| transcript.whisperx[665].text |
我就是減少不用舉債 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].start |
1424 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].end |
1426 |
| transcript.whisperx[666].text |
再來的話我決定我要還債的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].start |
1426 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].end |
1428 |
| transcript.whisperx[667].text |
還本還是還利 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].start |
1428 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].end |
1430 |
| transcript.whisperx[668].text |
再來的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].start |
1430 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].end |
1432 |
| transcript.whisperx[669].text |
我才會有剩餘的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].start |
1432 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].end |
1434 |
| transcript.whisperx[670].text |
剩餘的部分一樣還是一定的比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].start |
1434 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].end |
1436 |
| transcript.whisperx[671].text |
我是要留作風險的準備金 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].start |
1436 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].end |
1438 |
| transcript.whisperx[672].text |
還是我要投資我未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].start |
1438 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].end |
1440 |
| transcript.whisperx[673].text |
因為我未來要擴產 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].start |
1440 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].end |
1442 |
| transcript.whisperx[674].text |
未來要產生設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].start |
1442 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].end |
1444 |
| transcript.whisperx[675].text |
剩下的哪些多少比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].start |
1444 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].end |
1446 |
| transcript.whisperx[676].text |
我是要來發給股東的公司的鼓勵 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].start |
1448 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].end |
1450 |
| transcript.whisperx[677].text |
我意思說 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].start |
1450 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].end |
1452 |
| transcript.whisperx[678].text |
政府有沒有這樣子的一個模型 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].start |
1452 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].end |
1454 |
| transcript.whisperx[679].text |
一個公式 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].start |
1454 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].end |
1456 |
| transcript.whisperx[680].text |
你不能每次都是憑感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].start |
1456 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].end |
1458 |
| transcript.whisperx[681].text |
現在憑感覺一定有 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].start |
1458 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].end |
1460 |
| transcript.whisperx[682].text |
我也大部分贊成 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].start |
1460 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].end |
1462 |
| transcript.whisperx[683].text |
我們第一個是要依法 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].start |
1462 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].end |
1464 |
| transcript.whisperx[684].text |
必須先還債 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].start |
1464 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].end |
1466 |
| transcript.whisperx[685].text |
Finance的model跟公司 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].start |
1466 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].end |
1468 |
| transcript.whisperx[686].text |
我想要問說政府在做這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].start |
1468 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].end |
1470 |
| transcript.whisperx[687].text |
不要憑感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].start |
1470 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].end |
1472 |
| transcript.whisperx[688].text |
為什麼要憑感覺 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].start |
1472 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].end |
1474 |
| transcript.whisperx[689].text |
來我問你審計部說我們上半年 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].start |
1474 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].end |
1476 |
| transcript.whisperx[690].text |
超徵多少金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].start |
1476 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].end |
1478 |
| transcript.whisperx[691].text |
4000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].start |
1478 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].end |
1480 |
| transcript.whisperx[692].text |
4000多億 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].start |
1480 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].end |
1482 |
| transcript.whisperx[693].text |
審計部說的其實第一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].start |
1482 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].end |
1484 |
| transcript.whisperx[694].text |
他是用115年的預算案數 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].start |
1484 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].end |
1486 |
| transcript.whisperx[695].text |
但是通過的預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].start |
1486 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].end |
1488 |
| transcript.whisperx[696].text |
是才 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].start |
1488 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].end |
1490 |
| transcript.whisperx[697].text |
整體的稅客收入是3兆零 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].start |
1490 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].end |
1492 |
| transcript.whisperx[698].text |
807億 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].start |
1492 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].end |
1494 |
| transcript.whisperx[699].text |
8月為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].start |
1494 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].end |
1496 |
| transcript.whisperx[700].text |
他其實是 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].start |
1496 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].end |
1498 |
| transcript.whisperx[701].text |
你來告訴我數字時間不夠了 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].start |
1498 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].end |
1500 |
| transcript.whisperx[702].text |
我們達到的預算數 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].start |
1500 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].end |
1502 |
| transcript.whisperx[703].text |
是67.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[704].start |
1502 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].end |
1504 |
| transcript.whisperx[704].text |
所以沒有所謂的超徵的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].start |
1504 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].end |
1506 |
| transcript.whisperx[705].text |
目前預算都還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].start |
1506 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].end |
1508 |
| transcript.whisperx[706].text |
執行當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].start |
1508 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].end |
1510 |
| transcript.whisperx[707].text |
目前來說只達到預算數的67.7% |
| transcript.whisperx[708].start |
1510 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].end |
1512 |
| transcript.whisperx[708].text |
稅客收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].start |
1512 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].end |
1514 |
| transcript.whisperx[709].text |
所以你覺得不會超徵 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].start |
1514 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].end |
1516 |
| transcript.whisperx[710].text |
我們股市已經快上5萬了 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].start |
1516 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].end |
1518 |
| transcript.whisperx[711].text |
昨天的成家 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].start |
1518 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].end |
1520 |
| transcript.whisperx[712].text |
基本上是1兆多 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].start |
1520 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].end |
1522 |
| transcript.whisperx[713].text |
我們會按照預算數來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].start |
1522 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].end |
1524 |
| transcript.whisperx[714].text |
實收數跟預算數來做 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].start |
1524 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].end |
1526 |
| transcript.whisperx[715].text |
我剛剛也跟你講過去的歷史 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].start |
1526 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].end |
1528 |
| transcript.whisperx[716].text |
我們每一年超徵的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].start |
1528 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].end |
1530 |
| transcript.whisperx[717].text |
基本上都到3、4千億以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].start |
1530 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].end |
1532 |
| transcript.whisperx[718].text |
所以基本上來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].start |
1532 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].end |
1534 |
| transcript.whisperx[719].text |
是夠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].start |
1534 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].end |
1536 |
| transcript.whisperx[720].text |
所以很多人特別預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].start |
1536 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].end |
1538 |
| transcript.whisperx[721].text |
支應國際形勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].start |
1538 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].end |
1540 |
| transcript.whisperx[722].text |
支應各種災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].start |
1540 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].end |
1542 |
| transcript.whisperx[723].text |
扣掉環照 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].start |
1542 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].end |
1544 |
| transcript.whisperx[724].text |
扣掉你未來投資支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].start |
1544 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].end |
1546 |
| transcript.whisperx[725].text |
你這些比預算出來是多少之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].start |
1546 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].end |
1548 |
| transcript.whisperx[726].text |
你才不會被人家質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].start |
1548 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].end |
1550 |
| transcript.whisperx[727].text |
為什麼可以普發1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].start |
1550 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].end |
1552 |
| transcript.whisperx[728].text |
你們普發1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].start |
1552 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].end |
1554 |
| transcript.whisperx[729].text |
就是怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].start |
1554 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].end |
1556 |
| transcript.whisperx[730].text |
我們在野黨發錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].start |
1556 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].end |
1558 |
| transcript.whisperx[731].text |
哪裡就說我們窮排 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].start |
1558 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].end |
1560 |
| transcript.whisperx[732].text |
委員你也要算收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].start |
1560 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].end |
1562 |
| transcript.whisperx[733].text |
你要算支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].start |
1562 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].end |
1564 |
| transcript.whisperx[734].text |
所以我說你的公司你的家權 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].start |
1564 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].end |
1566 |
| transcript.whisperx[735].text |
要弄出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].start |
1566 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].end |
1568 |
| transcript.whisperx[736].text |
你要讓大家可以清楚的看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].start |
1568 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].end |
1570 |
| transcript.whisperx[737].text |
有多少比例是用在環照 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].start |
1570 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].end |
1572 |
| transcript.whisperx[738].text |
多少比例是投資 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].start |
1572 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].end |
1574 |
| transcript.whisperx[739].text |
投資未來這個東西未來又可以增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].start |
1574 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].end |
1576 |
| transcript.whisperx[740].text |
幫政府收掉錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].start |
1576 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].end |
1578 |
| transcript.whisperx[741].text |
兩三年當中每一年稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].start |
1578 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].end |
1580 |
| transcript.whisperx[742].text |
稅收跟支出的金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].start |
1580 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].end |
1582 |
| transcript.whisperx[743].text |
很清楚的擺在委員面前 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].start |
1582 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].end |
1584 |
| transcript.whisperx[744].text |
不是,我的意思是回答我那個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].start |
1584 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].end |
1586 |
| transcript.whisperx[745].text |
你現在下來之後人家才不會質疑你 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].start |
1586 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].end |
1588 |
| transcript.whisperx[746].text |
為什麼是普發1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].start |
1588 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].end |
1590 |
| transcript.whisperx[747].text |
為什麼不能普發1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].start |
1590 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].end |
1592 |
| transcript.whisperx[748].text |
為什麼不能普發2萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].start |
1592 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].end |
1594 |
| transcript.whisperx[749].text |
為什麼不能普發1萬6800塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].start |
1594 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].end |
1596 |
| transcript.whisperx[750].text |
1萬6800塊不是更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].start |
1596 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].end |
1598 |
| transcript.whisperx[751].text |
一路發啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].start |
1598 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].end |
1600 |
| transcript.whisperx[752].text |
我剛剛跟委員報告過啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].start |
1600 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].end |
1602 |
| transcript.whisperx[753].text |
不只台北升起來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].start |
1602 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].end |
1604 |
| transcript.whisperx[754].text |
台北上公台北打的環站是比較好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].start |
1604 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].end |
1606 |
| transcript.whisperx[755].text |
課稅收入的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].start |
1606 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].end |
1608 |
| transcript.whisperx[756].text |
我的意思就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].start |
1608 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].end |
1610 |
| transcript.whisperx[757].text |
你要給我一個金額 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].start |
1610 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].end |
1612 |
| transcript.whisperx[758].text |
不然你永遠陷入 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].start |
1612 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].end |
1614 |
| transcript.whisperx[759].text |
大家在花菜吃的價錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].start |
1614 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].end |
1616 |
| transcript.whisperx[760].text |
你那1萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].start |
1616 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].end |
1618 |
| transcript.whisperx[761].text |
你都沒出道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].start |
1618 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].end |
1620 |
| transcript.whisperx[762].text |
你那1萬也有道理 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].start |
1620 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].end |
1622 |
| transcript.whisperx[763].text |
你要有個柿子嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].start |
1622 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].end |
1624 |
| transcript.whisperx[764].text |
那乾脆我再加碼一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].start |
1624 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].end |
1626 |
| transcript.whisperx[765].text |
我們兩個折中1萬6800塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].start |
1626 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].end |
1628 |
| transcript.whisperx[766].text |
大家台灣一定發嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].start |
1628 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].end |
1630 |
| transcript.whisperx[767].text |
那你把錢從哪裡來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].start |
1630 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].end |
1632 |
| transcript.whisperx[768].text |
錢我就幫你算好啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].start |
1632 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].end |
1634 |
| transcript.whisperx[769].text |
我也可以算一本帳給你 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].start |
1634 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].end |
1636 |
| transcript.whisperx[770].text |
你的錢都算不出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].start |
1636 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].end |
1638 |
| transcript.whisperx[771].text |
這兩三年特別運算支出的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].start |
1638 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].end |
1640 |
| transcript.whisperx[772].text |
都不算,因應國際情勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].start |
1640 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].end |
1642 |
| transcript.whisperx[773].text |
因應各個債後重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].start |
1642 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].end |
1644 |
| transcript.whisperx[774].text |
那你只算我們增加的稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].start |
1644 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].end |
1646 |
| transcript.whisperx[775].text |
我沒有說增加的稅收 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].start |
1646 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].end |
1648 |
| transcript.whisperx[776].text |
不要搞錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].start |
1648 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].end |
1650 |
| transcript.whisperx[777].text |
我剛剛已經幫你上課了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].start |
1650 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].end |
1652 |
| transcript.whisperx[778].text |
所以我就說 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].start |
1652 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].end |
1654 |
| transcript.whisperx[779].text |
把公事參數調出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].start |
1654 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].end |
1656 |
| transcript.whisperx[780].text |
你就可以比較有理直氣壯 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].start |
1656 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].end |
1658 |
| transcript.whisperx[781].text |
不然說實在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].start |
1658 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].end |
1660 |
| transcript.whisperx[782].text |
我們本性應該理得的 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].start |
1660 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].end |
1662 |
| transcript.whisperx[783].text |
那個1萬塊喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].start |
1662 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].end |
1664 |
| transcript.whisperx[784].text |
講白就是在花期 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].start |
1664 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].end |
1666 |
| transcript.whisperx[785].text |
這是以前的我的經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].start |
1666 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].end |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[786].text |
只是提供給你們參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].start |
1668 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].end |
1670 |
| transcript.whisperx[787].text |
再來最後的時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].start |
1670 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].end |
1672 |
| transcript.whisperx[788].text |
我想要替馬潘安西 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].start |
1676 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].end |
1678 |
| transcript.whisperx[789].text |
因為馬潘安西的這個災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].start |
1678 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].end |
1680 |
| transcript.whisperx[790].text |
因為我很關心,我也不是花蓮人 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].start |
1680 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].end |
1682 |
| transcript.whisperx[791].text |
我也不是,我只是覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].start |
1682 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].end |
1684 |
| transcript.whisperx[792].text |
我是以前高雄氣爆的受災戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].start |
1684 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].end |
1686 |
| transcript.whisperx[793].text |
所以我很理解 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].start |
1686 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].end |
1688 |
| transcript.whisperx[794].text |
受災戶的一個心情 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].start |
1688 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].end |
1690 |
| transcript.whisperx[795].text |
那這邊的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].start |
1690 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].end |
1692 |
| transcript.whisperx[796].text |
我們特別運算也編了 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].start |
1692 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].end |
1694 |
| transcript.whisperx[797].text |
也開始做執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].start |
1694 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].end |
1696 |
| transcript.whisperx[798].text |
那我在上個會期我當任經紀人會 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].start |
1696 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].end |
1698 |
| transcript.whisperx[799].text |
招尾的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].start |
1698 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].end |
1700 |
| transcript.whisperx[800].text |
我5月4號去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].start |
1700 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].end |
1702 |
| transcript.whisperx[801].text |
6月29號我有去考察 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].start |
1702 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].end |
1704 |
| transcript.whisperx[802].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].start |
1704 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].end |
1706 |
| transcript.whisperx[803].text |
往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].start |
1706 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].end |
1708 |
| transcript.whisperx[804].text |
再用一點時間播放一下當地的新生 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].start |
1712 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].end |
1714 |
| transcript.whisperx[805].text |
有聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].start |
1716 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].end |
1718 |
| transcript.whisperx[806].text |
那可能是趙靈跟吉森 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].start |
1718 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].end |
1720 |
| transcript.whisperx[807].text |
這個政策好像在我 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].start |
1720 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].end |
1722 |
| transcript.whisperx[808].text |
那個狀態性中正在浮現到 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].start |
1722 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].end |
1724 |
| transcript.whisperx[809].text |
6年,6、10萬 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].start |
1724 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].end |
1726 |
| transcript.whisperx[810].text |
10萬,那是一公尺 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].start |
1726 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].end |
1728 |
| transcript.whisperx[811].text |
10萬我們幹嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].start |
1728 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].end |
1730 |
| transcript.whisperx[812].text |
或是請大家看字幕 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].start |
1730 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].end |
1732 |
| transcript.whisperx[813].text |
該徵收的不徵收 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].start |
1732 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].end |
1734 |
| transcript.whisperx[814].text |
徵收,自用徵收,加購,這是強制百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].start |
1734 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].end |
1736 |
| transcript.whisperx[815].text |
剛剛我隨便抽一顆雜拋起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].start |
1736 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].end |
1738 |
| transcript.whisperx[816].text |
大概只有半個手掌 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].start |
1738 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].end |
1740 |
| transcript.whisperx[817].text |
那麼浮滿,那個離譜的 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].start |
1740 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].end |
1742 |
| transcript.whisperx[818].text |
代表我們的作物沒有辦法往下長 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].start |
1742 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].end |
1744 |
| transcript.whisperx[819].text |
像現在這個地又硬又黏又濕 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].start |
1744 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].end |
1746 |
| transcript.whisperx[820].text |
某種程度上可以說是它是黏土 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].start |
1746 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].end |
1748 |
| transcript.whisperx[821].text |
這樣的東西怎麼去種 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].start |
1748 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].end |
1750 |
| transcript.whisperx[822].text |
那你現在看這一塊 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].start |
1750 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].end |
1752 |
| transcript.whisperx[823].text |
大概兩米多啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].start |
1752 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].end |
1754 |
| transcript.whisperx[824].text |
應該是超過接近三米 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].start |
1754 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].end |
1756 |
| transcript.whisperx[825].text |
讓土不要流進來 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].start |
1756 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].end |
1758 |
| transcript.whisperx[826].text |
就是靠疊沙包啦等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].start |
1758 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].end |
1760 |
| transcript.whisperx[827].text |
還有一個就是一直不斷地去清淤 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].start |
1760 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].end |
1762 |
| transcript.whisperx[828].text |
要蓋多少沙包才可以阻擋 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].start |
1762 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].end |
1764 |
| transcript.whisperx[829].text |
這根本沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].start |
1764 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].end |
1766 |
| transcript.whisperx[830].text |
土石還在這邊啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].start |
1766 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].end |
1768 |
| transcript.whisperx[831].text |
你們一直把Diva加高 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].start |
1768 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].end |
1770 |
| transcript.whisperx[832].text |
Diva加高之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].start |
1770 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].end |
1772 |
| transcript.whisperx[833].text |
我們會安全嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].start |
1772 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].end |
1774 |
| transcript.whisperx[834].text |
你們有沒有考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].start |
1774 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].end |
1776 |
| transcript.whisperx[835].text |
我們蘑菇蝦 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].start |
1776 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].end |
1778 |
| transcript.whisperx[836].text |
還有五條蜥 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].start |
1778 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].end |
1780 |
| transcript.whisperx[837].text |
這個蜥都很光大 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].start |
1780 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].end |
1782 |
| transcript.whisperx[838].text |
你把Diva弄得那麼高 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].start |
1782 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].end |
1784 |
| transcript.whisperx[839].text |
你們有想到讓五條蜥的水 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].start |
1784 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].end |
1786 |
| transcript.whisperx[840].text |
流出去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].start |
1786 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].end |
1788 |
| transcript.whisperx[841].text |
之前經濟部建會推給農糧署 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].start |
1788 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].end |
1790 |
| transcript.whisperx[842].text |
後來又跟我們說 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].start |
1790 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].end |
1792 |
| transcript.whisperx[843].text |
因為過來所屬於零件機具 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].start |
1792 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].end |
1794 |
| transcript.whisperx[844].text |
又不能算到農機具 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].start |
1794 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].end |
1796 |
| transcript.whisperx[845].text |
1月回復要補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].start |
1796 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].end |
1798 |
| transcript.whisperx[846].text |
3月回復補助非常不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].start |
1798 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].end |
1800 |
| transcript.whisperx[847].text |
中央補助了我們35萬重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].start |
1800 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].end |
1802 |
| transcript.whisperx[848].text |
門窗都不夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].start |
1802 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].end |
1804 |
| transcript.whisperx[849].text |
923到現在已經幾個月了 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].start |
1804 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].end |
1806 |
| transcript.whisperx[850].text |
還有很多的住宅 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].start |
1806 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].end |
1808 |
| transcript.whisperx[851].text |
大愛知識新災民的心聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].start |
1808 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].end |
1810 |
| transcript.whisperx[852].text |
再往下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].start |
1810 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].end |
1812 |
| transcript.whisperx[853].text |
這個是我在去考察的 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].start |
1812 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].end |
1814 |
| transcript.whisperx[854].text |
民旅村再往下 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].start |
1814 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].end |
1816 |
| transcript.whisperx[855].text |
這邊的話我這一張投影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].start |
1816 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].end |
1818 |
| transcript.whisperx[856].text |
我會再發給公共工程會 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].start |
1818 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].end |
1820 |
| transcript.whisperx[857].text |
農業部跟經濟部 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].start |
1820 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].end |
1822 |
| transcript.whisperx[858].text |
拜託這些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].start |
1822 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].end |
1824 |
| transcript.whisperx[859].text |
到現在都還沒有完全的解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].start |
1824 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].end |
1826 |
| transcript.whisperx[860].text |
不管是農民的生計 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].start |
1826 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].end |
1828 |
| transcript.whisperx[861].text |
因為現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].start |
1828 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].end |
1830 |
| transcript.whisperx[862].text |
還有一些災後的補助 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].start |
1830 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].end |
1832 |
| transcript.whisperx[863].text |
我們都希望迅速到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].start |
1832 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].end |
1834 |
| transcript.whisperx[864].text |
好不好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].start |
1834 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].end |
1836 |
| transcript.whisperx[865].text |
謝謝各位我們剛剛災民的各種聲音跟意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].start |
1846 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].end |
1848 |
| transcript.whisperx[866].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].start |
1848 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].end |
1850 |
| transcript.whisperx[867].text |
謝謝宏偉委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].start |
1850 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].end |
1852 |
| transcript.whisperx[868].text |
謝謝卓院長 |