iVOD / 171187

Field Value
IVOD_ID 171187
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171187
日期 2026-10-06
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-6-2
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 6
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第6會期第2次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-10-06T09:17:46+08:00
結束時間 2026-10-06T09:49:06+08:00
影片長度 00:31:20
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 洪孟楷
委員發言時間 09:17:46 - 09:49:06
會議時間 2026-10-06T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第6會期第2次會議(事由:對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 好 仔細謝謝 麻煩請總統太院長
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 請 總院長回席
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 請
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 洪委員好
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 院長好 院長
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 2026年剩兩個多月的時間
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 那過去四年啊
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 我們年度台灣都會選出年度代表字
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 2022年我們就回顧一下
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 2022年年度代表字是
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 您知道嗎
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 長 萬物皆長物價上漲的長
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 2023年年度代表字是缺
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 缺水缺電的缺
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 2024年年度代表字叫貪
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 貪官枉法貪官無力的貪
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 2025年叫做罷
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 大罷免大惡罷的罷
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 到2026年還剩兩個多月的時間
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 院長有沒有心目中你認為
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 今年台灣年度代表字會是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 拼
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 拼啊
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 大家都很拼
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 很拼拼什麼
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 拼經濟拼科技拼發展
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 然後有拼政治
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 因為我看您六日也是趴趴走
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 為很多民進黨的候選人來服選
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 不過沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 大家都有分工
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 院長來
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 很多人講是說可能跟民眾的感受
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 不一定那麼一致
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 因為很多人講說有可能2026年
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 年度代表字會是毒啊
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 毒 毒價的毒
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 因為之前毒品駕車事件
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 真的是高居不下
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 現在已經在翻向環了
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 毒油7月8月毒油之亂
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 確實讓全台灣的民眾人心惶惶
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 還有毒品的問題
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 所以我想先請教一下院長
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 台灣是不是一個毒品零容忍的國家
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 是 我們可以拼凡毒
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 我們一定會毒品零容忍嘛 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 是 好
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 對於現在我們看到有
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 過去主張講說
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 我們應該要仿效其他國家
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 建立社區中心
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 提供吸毒者毒品跟乾淨的針頭
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 你認同嗎
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 台北市目前的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 有34家社區藥局
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 在做這樣的工作
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 有提供毒品給人家嗎
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 有19
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 我們現在美沙東
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 提供毒品給
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 美沙東算是藥品還是毒品
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 那是二級管制藥品
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 是 藥品嘛 對
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 好啊
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 但是我現在問的是說
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 有人
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 有執政黨委員認為是說
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 應該要仿效
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 不管是哪一個社區
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 我不知道他想要指的哪一個社區
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 所以說大家也要問他嘛
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 但更重要的是
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 要提供毒品跟乾淨的針頭
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 你可以認同嗎
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 還是哪一個國家
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 現在已經有在做這樣
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 在提供針頭
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transcript.whisperx[83].text 你認不認同嘛
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 你先講認不認同說
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transcript.whisperx[85].text 提供毒品跟針頭給人家
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transcript.whisperx[86].text 這是一個減害的措施
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 全世界是有國際驗證過的
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 那台灣很多的城市
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 所以院長你認同這樣的講法囉
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 也都這樣在做
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 我們已經這樣在做啦
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 你認同這樣的講法
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 不是
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 要在社區中心提供毒品跟針頭給一般民眾
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 哇這算是反毒嗎
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 請委員要把它講精準一點
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 因為我現在都用的是執政黨委員
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 他的文章裡面的話
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 我沒有加油添醋
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 但我現在想問的是
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 這樣的主張跟這樣的立場
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 是我們現在執政黨的立場嗎
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 我們現在已經在做的事實
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 事實的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[105].text 我們就依照這個事實來解釋
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 院長你認為
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 毒癮跟什麼買模型玩具的癮一樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 跟吃美食的癮一樣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[109].text 藉癮跟減害
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transcript.whisperx[110].text 不是兩件完全相同的事情
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 所以你覺得毒癮跟買模型玩具
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 跟吃美食的癮是一樣的
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 那當然不一樣啊
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 當然不一樣啊
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 所以會講出這樣的話的人其實也蠻荒謬的
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 但是你不會到社區的藥局去吃美食啊
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 對其實也很荒謬嘛對不對
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 不會啊
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 所以我們現在想要問的是
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 到底有沒有可能
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 不管是衛福部
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 不管是法務部
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 不管是教育部
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 未來要在社區中心建立
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 可以提供毒品
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 吸毒者毒品跟乾淨的針頭
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 我們有可能會往這樣的方向來去做施政嗎
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 我已經在跟委員報告過了
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 我們會不會這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 台北市的做法
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 34處的社區藥局
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 我想就在做那種減害的政策
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transcript.whisperx[133].text 完全不敢正面回答
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 正面回答
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 泡一句現在崔上跟大家很愛講的話說
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 你完全是問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 你完全沒有在針對本席的問題回答問題
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 本席的問題
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 因為現在執政黨的委員提出來
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 還有現在是本席在問您問題
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 您負責回答
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 來院長我再請教一下
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 所以毒品跟藥品可以直接畫上等號嗎
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 你剛剛講美沙東
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 美沙東到底是毒品還是藥品
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 毒品跟藥品能不能畫上等號
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 我們請專業來做
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 毒品跟藥品能不能畫上等號
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 現在我再請教卓榮泰院長
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 毒品跟藥品當然不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 當然不一樣
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 所以如果說有人要講說把毒品跟藥品畫上等號的話
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 那其實是一個很荒謬的事情
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 再來正式毒品只是藥
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 在社區社區不會有人要把毒品上發給
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 所以毒品只是藥嗎
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 你要硬把它解釋成這個樣子
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 我們也是在沒有辦法
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 我們就以台北市現狀來說
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 以及社會大眾想要了解
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 為什麼會有執政黨的委員過去有這樣的主張
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 這樣的主張到底跟我們現在台灣主流民意有沒有背道而馳
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 如果有背道而馳的話
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 他其實可以改口啊
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 但是今天我們拿執政黨委員過去的文章來請教你的時候
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 你也不敢回答
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 然後正式毒品只是藥
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 我們以台北市的現狀來回答委員
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 這個是最接近現在事實的
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 跟委員說明
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 馬飛跟海洛因都是一級毒品
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 美沙東是二級毒品
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 我想非常厲害
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 這一些毒品能夠再有執政
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 然後要有規劃
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 管理下他可以當作藥品來使用
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 所以本席現在想要講的另外一個議題
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 你剛剛第一個問題沒有辦法很明確回答
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 那沒關係那再來
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 我們已經解釋了怎麼會沒有明確回答了
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 本席過去到現在也都提了
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 像我們這一次立法院在野黨委員52位
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transcript.whisperx[185].text 都已經連署通過中選會
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 要有這個所謂的邊行打擊詐騙公投
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 很遺憾被中選會沒收
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 但是當時我們要講的是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 我們要講的是其實我們希望能夠提供
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 政府一個強而有力但是
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 富有法律保障的武器
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 能夠來對付犯罪
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 降低詐騙、降低性侵、降低虐童
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 這一些只要能夠做我們都應該做
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 這不分朝野黨派
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 那因為中選會把它沒收了很遺憾
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 但是本席也負責任的
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 負責任的把本席的修法版本給提出來
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 並且本席的修法版本裡面
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 也獲得委員的連署
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 目前即將要進入到一讀會
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 好,本席再一次強調跟說明清楚
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 第一,性侵虐童詐騙以及毒品駕車後致死
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 這樣子的一個重大犯罪其實是產無人道的
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 而且是層出不窮的
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 我們不希望這樣的事情發生
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 我相信院長也好或是說在野黨委員一樣
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 大家都一致就是要對付
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 那現在有看到我們有這個行政院馬上講
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 是說有可能這樣的修法會違反兩公約
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 而給了軟墊子
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 我想先請教一下比較直接的概念
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 所以本席提出來這樣的一個修法
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 這個也參考過去在野時候民進黨委員的主張
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 甚至潘孟安、徐國勇、蔡其昌
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 現在身兼民進黨要職的秘書長
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 也都有連署這樣的一個版本
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 那本席提出來修法之後
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 法務部或行政院會不會有相對應的版本
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 首先對於這個重大惡行的犯罪加重他的刑責
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 這是大家的共識
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 行政院的方向也是朝這個方向在前進
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 但是本席連出來這個重刑
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 兩公約是要遵守的
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 我們再回顧世界上
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transcript.whisperx[226].text 目前僅有少數國家使用邊刑
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 到底邊刑它能夠產生多大的效益
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 這有待進一步的去商榷跟討論
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 本席去年一週年已經提出來
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 我們也報告說新加坡有這樣的邊刑
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 本席也提供相關的資料
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 並且本席也建議說法務部也好、外交部也好
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transcript.whisperx[233].text 可以去新加坡去了解
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 請教過去這一年有沒有去了解
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 邊刑它是向新加坡是因為直接沿系英國的做法
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 英國已經佔了最有廢詞的邊刑
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 新加坡就是說重大的這些差異
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 是不是嚴厲、是不是主張
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 我剛講的這些是不是新加坡都繼續有在邊刑
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 它那個只有限縮在50歲以下的男子才會
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 您的資料也錯誤了
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 然後對副委員、對市委員、對這個年紀的人
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 他們也炸彈的話會利用這些人來做一些等級的判斷
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 請讓院長回答
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 來,院長
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 那我也看到說民進黨委員也講
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 就是說其實也可以把貪污、立委犯罪、收入、列入邊刑
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 所以請教執政黨、護士、行政院
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 會不會把中央的版本把這些委員的提案一起納進來
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 然後變成是一個版本然後拿出來來做討論
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 因為有委員提出要用邊刑
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 所以另外有委員提出一些比較反向的思考
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 但是行政院會認為重大政策不是用反向思考來做討論跟對比的
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 我們應該衡量的是邊刑符不符合現在世界的人權的思想
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 邊刑在大多數的國家是不是被接受
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 成為人權的思想
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 全台民眾對於政府要求治安的期待
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 以及過去對於犯罪的縱容
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 這是人民想要看到政府有更強而有力積極的作為
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 這是為什麼過去有八千的民意
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 認為是邊刑打擊詐騙、虐童性侵、以及這樣只是高度民意的產權
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 如果行政院長還聽不到這樣的民意的話
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 我感到非常遺憾
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 但是人民會用實際行動告訴行政院什麼才是真正的民意
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 再來我們提高刑罰的修正已經送到大院來了
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 大院去提高刑罰的各種法律學生案
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 而且大院已經都通過那個行政大法院
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 請發到這些的假期
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 這個三級的那個法文詐欺三級
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 市長一直在干擾本席的質詢
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 我不知道說部長是想要救駕還是想要篡位
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 不然怎麼會
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 主席委員夫說了我們對行政法加重修法的努力
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 市長時間可以請暫停嗎
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 而且這是回應立法要求
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 根據立法院職權刑事法第22條精神
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 對委員之答覆,是由行政院院長答覆
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 或由質詢委員指定之有關部會首長答覆
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 委員如果沒有指定,就請部會首長不要搶答
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 市長我可以繼續嗎
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 部長,本席要求你回答的時候,請你回答
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 沒有要求你回答的時候,請不要篡位
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transcript.whisperx[283].text 來,院長,那我請教
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transcript.whisperx[284].text 現在我們也提出來,因為獨駕非常的嚴峻
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 而獨駕致死更是慘絕人寰
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 我們常常講說這就是不定期炸彈
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 那既然這樣的話,本席也已經有修法主張
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transcript.whisperx[288].text 就是如果說,獨駕致死最高應該判處死刑
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transcript.whisperx[289].text 無期徒刑或12年以上有期徒刑
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transcript.whisperx[290].text 這就是您剛剛一直強調的,說要把刑責加重
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 你說刑責加重,行政院是支持的
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 所以,本席這樣的一個修法版本
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 目前民進黨團不同意
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 那我不知道說行政部門現在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[295].text 有沒有可能有同意的機會
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transcript.whisperx[296].text 因為如果說行政部門同意的話
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transcript.whisperx[297].text 也許我們就可以直接
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transcript.whisperx[298].text 在這個禮拜五院會的時候三讀通過
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transcript.whisperx[299].text 大院裡面的修法,朝野各黨團的意見
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 我想要彼此互相的遵守
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transcript.whisperx[301].text 同時也要符合憲法的精神
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 你自己的態度
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 如果是唯一死刑,將來是不是
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transcript.whisperx[304].text 沒有唯一死刑,本席剛剛講的非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[305].text 獨駕致死我們給法官做裁量權
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 如果獨駕致死最高判處死刑
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 無期徒刑或12年以上有期徒刑
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 這是法官的裁量權,我不會去干涉
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transcript.whisperx[309].text 但是本席修法完畢之後
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transcript.whisperx[310].text 請教行政院長認不認同
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transcript.whisperx[311].text 我們已經對特殊重大的暴力犯罪
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transcript.whisperx[312].text 擬具了刑法第77條的修正草案
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transcript.whisperx[313].text 那麼明定不能安全駕駛的罹犯
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transcript.whisperx[314].text 五年內不能在安全駕駛的這幾個條款
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transcript.whisperx[315].text 故意殺人、殺人未遂
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transcript.whisperx[316].text 或是惡劣致死等重傷的
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transcript.whisperx[317].text 都會處無期徒刑或超過12年刑
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transcript.whisperx[318].text 所以你不認同處死刑
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transcript.whisperx[319].text 那目前我們的態度是如此
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transcript.whisperx[320].text 所以行政院即便到現在
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transcript.whisperx[321].text 看到那麼多犯罪猖獗
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transcript.whisperx[322].text 也不願意即便我們沒有廢死
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transcript.whisperx[323].text 我們沒有廢死
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transcript.whisperx[324].text 你也不願意求處死刑
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transcript.whisperx[325].text 把死刑列入
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transcript.whisperx[326].text 我們沒有廢死
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transcript.whisperx[327].text 沒有廢死
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transcript.whisperx[328].text 沒有廢死啊
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transcript.whisperx[329].text 但即便現在沒有廢死
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transcript.whisperx[330].text 你如果實際上講沒有廢死
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 你們行政院還是不同意處死刑
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transcript.whisperx[333].text 目前的修法的方向
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transcript.whisperx[334].text 為什麼每一次都讓我們看到
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transcript.whisperx[335].text 對於犯罪者那麼的包圍
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transcript.whisperx[336].text 目前在修正兩...
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transcript.whisperx[337].text 為什麼每一次都要問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[338].text A打B每一次都要問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[339].text 問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[340].text 問A打B
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transcript.whisperx[341].text 你們到底跟被害者有什麼仇
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transcript.whisperx[342].text 靈滅未滿七歲兒童自死的是處於死刑
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transcript.whisperx[343].text 那也是在野黨修法通過了
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transcript.whisperx[344].text 你們當事人去反對
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transcript.whisperx[345].text 對,但是也是衡量到整個法律的
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transcript.whisperx[346].text 他整個衡量
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transcript.whisperx[347].text 國人都了解您的態度
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transcript.whisperx[348].text 再來
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 院長
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transcript.whisperx[350].text 還剩兩個月不到就要九合一選舉
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transcript.whisperx[351].text 選舉是民主的過程
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transcript.whisperx[352].text 本席非常尊重
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 因為本席有這個權利站在這邊
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transcript.whisperx[354].text 就是透過公平公正的選舉得來
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transcript.whisperx[355].text 所以我很珍惜每一票給我的選票的承諾
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transcript.whisperx[356].text 那九合一選舉的時候
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transcript.whisperx[357].text 其實最重要的是
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transcript.whisperx[358].text 我們不要有任何外界的干擾
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transcript.whisperx[359].text 所以說我們也絕對向會選說不
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transcript.whisperx[360].text 可是現在有個情況比較特別的狀況是
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transcript.whisperx[361].text 一般民間在講是說
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transcript.whisperx[362].text 過去有些事情
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transcript.whisperx[363].text 就包括說法務部之前
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transcript.whisperx[364].text 訂出所謂三十塊的文宣小物的標準
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transcript.whisperx[365].text 現在到底還有沒有這個標準
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transcript.whisperx[366].text 以及什麼能做什麼不能做
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transcript.whisperx[367].text 我想這個是不分黨派朝野
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transcript.whisperx[368].text 大家可以凝聚一個共識
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transcript.whisperx[369].text 畫出一個很精確的紅線
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transcript.whisperx[370].text 要求所有候選人都不要違法
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transcript.whisperx[371].text 您認同嗎
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transcript.whisperx[372].text 標準只有一個
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transcript.whisperx[373].text 請法務來說明
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transcript.whisperx[374].text 標準只有一個
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transcript.whisperx[375].text 所以我們來看一下
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transcript.whisperx[376].text 請教
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transcript.whisperx[377].text 如果說在競選場合發放這樣子的一個物品
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transcript.whisperx[378].text 每個人拿到一份
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transcript.whisperx[379].text 這部分算不算違法
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transcript.whisperx[380].text 算不算會選
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transcript.whisperx[381].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[382].text 這個最高檢察署有
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transcript.whisperx[383].text 你直接回答我
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 妨害選舉刑事案件的立舉
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transcript.whisperx[385].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[386].text 直接回答我
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transcript.whisperx[387].text 第三個不構成會選的話
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transcript.whisperx[388].text 這個有編號三
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transcript.whisperx[389].text 選舉造勢活動提供參加民眾適度之茶水
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transcript.whisperx[390].text 簡便餐飲
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transcript.whisperx[391].text 不預約社會場景
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transcript.whisperx[392].text 那這部分
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transcript.whisperx[393].text 所以這個算不算
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transcript.whisperx[394].text 這個要看有沒有社會場景
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transcript.whisperx[396].text 本席就在問你有沒有社會場景
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transcript.whisperx[397].text 因為這沒有辦法講個案認定
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transcript.whisperx[398].text 因為兩個部分
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transcript.whisperx[399].text 國人現在普遍有一個認知是30塊以下
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transcript.whisperx[400].text 那這個超過30塊
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transcript.whisperx[401].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[402].text 另外一個部分
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transcript.whisperx[404].text 允許我來做一個解釋
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transcript.whisperx[405].text 30塊就是一個發動偵查的門檻
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transcript.whisperx[406].text 並不是說30塊達到3以上就一定會選
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transcript.whisperx[407].text 或者是說未達30塊就不是會選
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transcript.whisperx[408].text 所以這樣有沒有超過30塊
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transcript.whisperx[409].text 這部分
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transcript.whisperx[410].text 以現在的物價實際上是多少
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transcript.whisperx[411].text 如果說這個是屬於高檔餐廳的
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transcript.whisperx[412].text 這個是超過30塊
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 可能幾百塊
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transcript.whisperx[414].text 那如果說路邊攤
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transcript.whisperx[415].text 我就不曉得這個是多少
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transcript.whisperx[416].text 好來下一張
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transcript.whisperx[417].text 這個有超過30塊嗎
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 這個我沒辦法去做
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transcript.whisperx[419].text 這個沒有標記
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transcript.whisperx[420].text 因為你剛剛講
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transcript.whisperx[421].text 部長現在本席可以請你回答
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transcript.whisperx[422].text 但是你剛剛講的東西很模糊
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transcript.whisperx[423].text 這也是模糊
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transcript.whisperx[424].text 這也是我們要透過質詢的時候來去查的
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transcript.whisperx[426].text 本席現在講請教是說
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transcript.whisperx[428].text 你們內部
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transcript.whisperx[429].text 因為你們一定有行前教育
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transcript.whisperx[430].text 看到現在這樣子的話
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transcript.whisperx[433].text 匯選就是以
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transcript.whisperx[434].text 他是不是可以變更影響
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transcript.whisperx[435].text 這個選舉權人的一個投票的意願
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transcript.whisperx[436].text 本席現在就講是說
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transcript.whisperx[438].text 模糊
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transcript.whisperx[439].text 不動的
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transcript.whisperx[440].text 好像大覽不辦事
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transcript.whisperx[441].text 好像針對特定政黨的候選人
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transcript.whisperx[442].text 本席想要講是說
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transcript.whisperx[443].text 才會給你機會說明
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transcript.whisperx[444].text 但是你現在這個也說明不清楚
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transcript.whisperx[445].text 這個法案刑事
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transcript.whisperx[446].text 選舉刑事案件
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transcript.whisperx[447].text 法案局裡面有一些立法
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transcript.whisperx[449].text 有些是不成立匯選嗎
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transcript.whisperx[450].text 怎麼會出來這些什麼東西
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transcript.whisperx[451].text 烤滷豬啊
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transcript.whisperx[452].text 如果說有候選人在他的宣講
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transcript.whisperx[453].text 講說要支持某某某
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transcript.whisperx[454].text 然後旁邊提供烤滷豬
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transcript.whisperx[455].text 烤滷豬這個釋加一支兩萬五起跳
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transcript.whisperx[458].text 如果說來兩百個人
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transcript.whisperx[461].text 旁邊有烤滷豬
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transcript.whisperx[462].text 然後提供給來參加民眾
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transcript.whisperx[463].text 這樣算不算
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transcript.whisperx[464].text 這可以比較好認定了吧
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transcript.whisperx[465].text 可不可以提供烤滷豬
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transcript.whisperx[466].text 這個還是用到
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transcript.whisperx[467].text 這是滷豬不行烤羊可以
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transcript.whisperx[468].text 滷豬不行烤羊可以
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transcript.whisperx[470].text 一零六年的台上自二一八九號的一個判決
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transcript.whisperx[471].text 我們要個案
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transcript.whisperx[472].text 我們要個案的判決
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transcript.whisperx[473].text 到現在我們都發生
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transcript.whisperx[474].text 這個都是實際的照片
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transcript.whisperx[475].text 我完全可以負責完全可以去求證
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transcript.whisperx[477].text 是如果說連我們在國會殿堂
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transcript.whisperx[479].text 那難怪一般民眾會覺得說
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transcript.whisperx[480].text 這一次的檢調是完全浮動的
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transcript.whisperx[481].text 有些時候送豆花不行
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transcript.whisperx[485].text 這到底標準是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[493].text 所以我跟你們報告
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transcript.whisperx[494].text 這個是有沒有對下關係
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transcript.whisperx[496].text 法當然它有個歷史
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transcript.whisperx[497].text 法這個字
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transcript.whisperx[498].text 就是不分顏色黨派
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transcript.whisperx[499].text 依法該辦就辦
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transcript.whisperx[500].text 絕對不是個案認定
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transcript.whisperx[503].text 為什麼全國人民都會說現在的標準是
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transcript.whisperx[504].text 沒有標準
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transcript.whisperx[505].text 這總要標準的
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transcript.whisperx[506].text 這個每個案件一定要收集一個情形
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transcript.whisperx[507].text 來做一個認定
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transcript.whisperx[508].text 本席今天不跟你討論什麼你手機的桌布
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transcript.whisperx[509].text 到底是什麼桌布
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transcript.whisperx[511].text 這個是我尊重
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transcript.whisperx[512].text 但是行政官員能不能用
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transcript.whisperx[513].text 人民的納稅前機關辦的活動
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transcript.whisperx[515].text 這一點就是所有政務人員
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transcript.whisperx[517].text 這個界限一定要非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[518].text 是
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transcript.whisperx[522].text 當初在台上是農田水利署的相關官員
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transcript.whisperx[523].text 限職喔
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transcript.whisperx[524].text 週五用的是農田水利署的公務預算辦的餐會
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transcript.whisperx[525].text 然後幫特定候選人喊動算
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transcript.whisperx[526].text 可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[528].text 您講的這個事情
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transcript.whisperx[529].text 他基本上就是年度的
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transcript.whisperx[531].text 預算是誰的
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transcript.whisperx[532].text 預算是我們農田水利署的預算
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transcript.whisperx[533].text 是不是公務預算
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transcript.whisperx[535].text 農田是不是有在台上喊動算
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transcript.whisperx[537].text 農田本身有非常多的想要競選這一次的前次長
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transcript.whisperx[539].text 還沒有上市的選舉的一個登記
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transcript.whisperx[540].text 只是有很多有意願的人來
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transcript.whisperx[541].text 等一下等一下
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transcript.whisperx[542].text 黃部長
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transcript.whisperx[544].text 8月的時候因為還沒有登記
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transcript.whisperx[545].text 所以他即便是民進黨提名的市長候選人
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transcript.whisperx[549].text 桃園地檢署已經立案在辦理了
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transcript.whisperx[553].text 還沒有這個案件喔
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transcript.whisperx[554].text 有這個有立案在辦
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transcript.whisperx[555].text 所以院長還是拉回來嗎
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transcript.whisperx[557].text 是沒有含扣的空間
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transcript.whisperx[558].text 但另外一點最重要的是
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transcript.whisperx[559].text 公務預算不能給候選人上台去做動算守護民主
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transcript.whisperx[560].text 連你這個界線都要非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[561].text 院長連你去每個地方六日
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transcript.whisperx[562].text 我們之前都問過嘛
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transcript.whisperx[564].text 你都說不是啊
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transcript.whisperx[572].text 我已經逾越了公務人員的界線了
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transcript.whisperx[573].text 應不應該就責
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transcript.whisperx[575].text 該就責檢調嗎
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transcript.whisperx[585].text 之前信件案件不是雙軌並行嗎
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transcript.whisperx[586].text 只要每次遇到你們標準都變了
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transcript.whisperx[587].text 沒有標準沒有變了
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transcript.whisperx[588].text 完全就是標準變了
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transcript.whisperx[589].text 所以說這是為什麼
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transcript.whisperx[602].text 去年有去參加嗎
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transcript.whisperx[607].text 現任的或想選的都會來
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transcript.whisperx[608].text 來院長
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transcript.whisperx[609].text 再來
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transcript.whisperx[612].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[617].text 但是我覺得這個是大家一起來面對
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transcript.whisperx[618].text 本席身為淡水第一選區
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transcript.whisperx[619].text 新北第一選區的立法委員
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transcript.whisperx[621].text 台北港需要加速建設本席同意
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transcript.whisperx[623].text 但另外更重要的是不能影響到
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transcript.whisperx[624].text 巴黎地區的居民
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transcript.whisperx[625].text 我來請院長看一下今天上午的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[626].text 今天上午五點半
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transcript.whisperx[628].text 排了幾百台的砂石車
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transcript.whisperx[629].text 這已經不是第一次了
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transcript.whisperx[630].text 但是這幾天特別嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[631].text 來我們秀一下幾張照片
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transcript.whisperx[632].text 下面
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transcript.whisperx[633].text 下面
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transcript.whisperx[634].text 還有嗎
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transcript.whisperx[635].text 好沒關係
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transcript.whisperx[636].text 院長
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transcript.whisperx[637].text 本期間一早就收到了我們地方的鄉親傳來的Line
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transcript.whisperx[638].text 那並且有講到是說排滿了
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transcript.whisperx[639].text OK
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transcript.whisperx[640].text 你看
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transcript.whisperx[641].text 巴黎區舊的區公所前面
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transcript.whisperx[642].text 全部都是砂石車在路邊等待
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transcript.whisperx[643].text 要進台北港
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transcript.whisperx[644].text 就是從早上五點半開始
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transcript.whisperx[646].text 本席也馬上調了資料
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transcript.whisperx[647].text 說台北港過去在前幾個月
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transcript.whisperx[648].text 差不多一天一千兩百台到一千五百台的砂石車進入
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transcript.whisperx[650].text 平均一天都兩千台
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transcript.whisperx[651].text 所以造成就是去化有塞車的狀況
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transcript.whisperx[652].text 那塞車他就回堵
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transcript.whisperx[653].text 那台北港我們之前也協調
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transcript.whisperx[654].text 港共公司你要趕快開門讓他們進去
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transcript.whisperx[655].text 堵在裡面不要影響到外面民眾的一個生活
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transcript.whisperx[656].text 可是現在連外面都影響到了
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transcript.whisperx[659].text 那就變成是說帶速造成空氣污染
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transcript.whisperx[660].text 造成砂石車佔據一個車道
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transcript.whisperx[661].text 並且要再進去
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transcript.whisperx[662].text 整個讓民眾的生活完全受影響
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transcript.whisperx[664].text 你也去看了台北港台中港高雄港
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transcript.whisperx[665].text 當時你的影片
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transcript.whisperx[666].text 一直講說要收大量人收容對象
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transcript.whisperx[668].text 沒有人反對
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transcript.whisperx[669].text 只要不要破壞生態
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transcript.whisperx[670].text 可是現在這個問題要怎麼解
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transcript.whisperx[671].text 院長我先講三個原則
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transcript.whisperx[672].text 再請部長說
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transcript.whisperx[673].text 第一個台北港每年收取建築物土石方
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transcript.whisperx[674].text 量五百萬立方是固定的
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transcript.whisperx[675].text 是固定的
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transcript.whisperx[676].text 他不會隨時增加
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transcript.whisperx[677].text 第二個我們去到台北港之後
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transcript.whisperx[678].text 他本來只有一個檢查的通道
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transcript.whisperx[679].text 現在我們把它擴增為兩個
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transcript.whisperx[680].text 這些都是粉絲過去有開協調會
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transcript.whisperx[681].text 院長
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transcript.whisperx[683].text 第三個
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transcript.whisperx[684].text 第三個我們要求
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transcript.whisperx[685].text 內政部也好
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transcript.whisperx[686].text 交通部也好
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transcript.whisperx[690].text 我相信
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transcript.whisperx[691].text 您可以接受你的家人小朋友
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transcript.whisperx[692].text 一出來門口看到這樣子煞車在拍賣嗎
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transcript.whisperx[694].text 我也要要求
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transcript.whisperx[695].text 這應該不是每一天24小時
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transcript.whisperx[697].text 早上5點半到9點
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transcript.whisperx[698].text 這個比較不影響交通的時候
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transcript.whisperx[699].text 有比較大量
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transcript.whisperx[700].text 等到交通很擁塞的時候
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transcript.whisperx[701].text 或是人比較多的時候
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transcript.whisperx[702].text 所以早上就可以允許嗎
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transcript.whisperx[703].text 這個因為
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transcript.whisperx[704].text 院長不是
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transcript.whisperx[705].text 粉絲現在想聽到你的話
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transcript.whisperx[706].text 是說你就擇程交通部長
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transcript.whisperx[707].text 擇程相關單位
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transcript.whisperx[710].text 第三點就是說這個
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transcript.whisperx[711].text 第三點就是我在處理整個
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transcript.whisperx[712].text 這個解決方的問題的時候
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transcript.whisperx[718].text 現場就會看可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[719].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[721].text 可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[724].text 因為確實
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transcript.whisperx[726].text 一個禮拜內我們去現場
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transcript.whisperx[727].text 做會勘針對問題解決問題
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transcript.whisperx[728].text 可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[729].text 委員您就安排會勘
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transcript.whisperx[731].text 來部長
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transcript.whisperx[732].text 那本席再進一步的建議
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transcript.whisperx[734].text 6461也已經接上了
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transcript.whisperx[737].text 那61是我們所謂的
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transcript.whisperx[738].text 這個西濱公路
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transcript.whisperx[742].text 那有人就在講是說
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transcript.whisperx[743].text 這些砂石車很有可能也都有
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transcript.whisperx[747].text 61直接進入到台北港
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transcript.whisperx[754].text 這樣可以嗎
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transcript.whisperx[762].text 好 貨運車
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transcript.whisperx[764].text 好 可以
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transcript.whisperx[767].text 川習會上上禮拜
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transcript.whisperx[768].text 這是世界的大問題
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transcript.whisperx[769].text 媒體就有報導
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transcript.whisperx[771].text 立法院已經正式通過7800億特別預算
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transcript.whisperx[774].text 所以現在我們錢都給你了
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transcript.whisperx[775].text 但現在140億的軍售是暫停的
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transcript.whisperx[776].text 媒體就報導四大理由
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transcript.whisperx[783].text 從上禮拜川習會之後到現在
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transcript.whisperx[786].text 國安會議
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transcript.whisperx[788].text 跟現在科技經濟合作是穩定的
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transcript.whisperx[789].text 川習會 川習二會
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transcript.whisperx[791].text 我們也認為並沒有發生我們意外的事情發生
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transcript.whisperx[792].text 至於美台之間已經發生了
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transcript.whisperx[797].text 駐美代表余大雷他接受彭博的專訪
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transcript.whisperx[798].text 他也特別講到是說
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transcript.whisperx[799].text 他直接講這是余大雷的講法
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transcript.whisperx[800].text 今天的報導彭博報導他說
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transcript.whisperx[801].text 川普即將拍板140億對台軍售
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transcript.whisperx[802].text 有這樣的一個消息嗎
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transcript.whisperx[803].text 請部長說明
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transcript.whisperx[805].text 美方表示這個仍然在審議當中
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transcript.whisperx[812].text 對我們的這個軍售的計畫沒有任何的改變
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transcript.whisperx[814].text 來適時的發表對我們的這個軍售
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transcript.whisperx[815].text 部長我都尊重說
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transcript.whisperx[816].end 1788
transcript.whisperx[816].text 站在捍衛中華民國立場我絕對都全力支持
transcript.whisperx[817].start 1788
transcript.whisperx[817].end 1791
transcript.whisperx[817].text 但是我們不能被人家當成是籌碼
transcript.whisperx[818].start 1791
transcript.whisperx[818].end 1794
transcript.whisperx[818].text 我想這個是不管誰執政都應該要捍衛的
transcript.whisperx[819].start 1794
transcript.whisperx[819].end 1798
transcript.whisperx[819].text 那現在川普他已經公開在媒體上面講是說
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transcript.whisperx[820].end 1802
transcript.whisperx[820].text 對台軍售是他跟北京交涉非常好的談判籌碼
transcript.whisperx[821].start 1802
transcript.whisperx[821].end 1807
transcript.whisperx[821].text 我想請教到這一句話出來到現在也兩三個月過去了
transcript.whisperx[822].start 1807
transcript.whisperx[822].end 1811
transcript.whisperx[822].text 我們有沒有透過任何管道向美國政府來去表達抗議
transcript.whisperx[823].start 1811
transcript.whisperx[823].end 1813
transcript.whisperx[823].text 我想我們跟美方
transcript.whisperx[824].start 1813
transcript.whisperx[824].end 1815
transcript.whisperx[824].text 這個應該是院長要回答的嘛
transcript.whisperx[825].start 1815
transcript.whisperx[825].end 1817
transcript.whisperx[825].text 我們跟美方的關係一直很穩定
transcript.whisperx[826].start 1817
transcript.whisperx[826].end 1820
transcript.whisperx[826].text 而且軍售的問題已經發生的
transcript.whisperx[827].start 1820
transcript.whisperx[827].end 1825
transcript.whisperx[827].text 或是還在川普已經講說都按照軍售是非常好的談判籌碼
transcript.whisperx[828].start 1825
transcript.whisperx[828].end 1827
transcript.whisperx[828].text 您認同這句話嗎
transcript.whisperx[829].start 1827
transcript.whisperx[829].end 1829
transcript.whisperx[829].text 這個事實並非如此嘛
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transcript.whisperx[830].end 1831
transcript.whisperx[830].text 過去六項保證
transcript.whisperx[831].start 1831
transcript.whisperx[831].end 1833
transcript.whisperx[831].text 已經發生的川習二會已經結束
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transcript.whisperx[832].end 1835
transcript.whisperx[832].text 北京來交涉對台軍售
transcript.whisperx[833].start 1835
transcript.whisperx[833].end 1836
transcript.whisperx[833].text 所以這保證
transcript.whisperx[834].start 1836
transcript.whisperx[834].end 1839
transcript.whisperx[834].text 這保證是美國對台灣
transcript.whisperx[835].start 1839
transcript.whisperx[835].end 1841
transcript.whisperx[835].text 接下來我們川習還有兩會
transcript.whisperx[836].start 1841
transcript.whisperx[836].end 1843
transcript.whisperx[836].text 包括11月的APEC
transcript.whisperx[837].start 1843
transcript.whisperx[837].end 1845
transcript.whisperx[837].text 以及包括12月的G20
transcript.whisperx[838].start 1845
transcript.whisperx[838].end 1848
transcript.whisperx[838].text 他們兩大領導人以及其他世界各國領導人怎麼樣
transcript.whisperx[839].start 1848
transcript.whisperx[839].end 1850
transcript.whisperx[839].text 我們真的很難想像
transcript.whisperx[840].start 1850
transcript.whisperx[840].end 1852
transcript.whisperx[840].text 但是我們絕不能變成籌碼
transcript.whisperx[841].start 1852
transcript.whisperx[841].end 1854
transcript.whisperx[841].text 所以說我想要問的是
transcript.whisperx[842].start 1854
transcript.whisperx[842].end 1858
transcript.whisperx[842].text 過去我們一直建議賴清德總統應該要急速召開國安會議
transcript.whisperx[843].start 1858
transcript.whisperx[843].end 1859
transcript.whisperx[843].text 國事會議
transcript.whisperx[844].start 1859
transcript.whisperx[844].end 1861
transcript.whisperx[844].text 院長你的態度是什麼
transcript.whisperx[845].start 1861
transcript.whisperx[845].end 1864
transcript.whisperx[845].text 我們透過各種形式都在每週甚至不定期的
transcript.whisperx[846].start 1864
transcript.whisperx[846].end 1867
transcript.whisperx[846].text 願意讓在野黨公眾的衛生
transcript.whisperx[847].start 1878
transcript.whisperx[847].end 1880
transcript.whisperx[847].text 好謝謝宏偉委員