iVOD / 171184

Field Value
IVOD_ID 171184
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171184
日期 2026-10-02
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-6-2
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 6
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第6會期第2次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-10-02T11:11:25+08:00
結束時間 2026-10-02T11:28:39+08:00
影片長度 00:17:14
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 莊瑞雄
委員發言時間 11:11:25 - 11:28:39
會議時間 2026-10-02T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第6會期第2次會議(事由:對行政院院長施政報告進行質詢。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 有請我們行政院卓院長
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 莊部長
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 莊委員好
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 院長辛苦
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 我想我延續剛剛
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 中國國民黨
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 福根級總召
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 對於
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 貨物稅對於行政院
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 這樣嚴厲的一個指責
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 其實話真的要講清楚
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 我們在去年
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 在八月份
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 其實在民生
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 五大民生項目的部分
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 行政院其實做了很多決定
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 從今年的2026年的1月
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 其實有很多民生的五大項目裡面
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 很多貨物稅
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 它是免徵
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 而且是關鍵的原物料
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 那個還是減半了
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 我想在這個地方要提出來就是說
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 跟全世界各個國家來做比較
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 台灣最大的問題
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 我們如果說要跟日本
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 跟韓國一樣
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 把所有的貨物稅
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 把奢侈稅這樣的一個概念
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 把它拿開
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 把它做一個廢除的話
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 那我相信這個稅制
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 它是可以大幅度的去賣盡
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 在國際上談判的時候
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 也不會被說
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 我們這個貨物稅的存在
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 就是自己去設置一個貿易的一個障礙
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 但是本級在這個地方
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 這個狀況其實最主要是
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 綜合所得稅
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 跟全世界各國來比較的話
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 我們又偏低
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 歐盟20%
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 也不是說把行政院
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 好康的都給你建議了
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 這樣一年算多少
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 等等都已經不再課增貨物稅了
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 部長請回
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transcript.whisperx[137].text 我接下來要請教卓院長
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 院長我跟你學生這樣
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 不是決議
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 沒完沒了
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 你整個國家你全部都是嚴當
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 第二個問題
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 韓院長他老婆跟卓院長老婆
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 兩個去修下午茶
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transcript.whisperx[158].text 你們這樣誰要六錢
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transcript.whisperx[159].text 你叫他們兩個在那邊消費
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 我做你的朋友很浪費
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 你做到現在一定算多大
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 你們人一般多少
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 韓院長你母出來說我們人37萬
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 卓院長你母出來說我們人0
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 公務人員法定待遇該多少
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 他就應該就是要多少
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 立法院我們給你延當350元一天
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 反而你有薪水可以領
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 做成決議以後
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 你說沒薪水
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 你回去你母不願意
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 請院長回答
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 是沒有那麼嚴重
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 我只是多做一些家事而已
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 多做一些家事
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 沒有
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 其實你這個你回家跟你老婆怎麼交代
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 那是你個人要去交代
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transcript.whisperx[203].text 但問題是
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 你涉及到整個國家的一個制度
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 你院長該多少就是多少
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 你這個官職部長該多少就是多少
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 這個預算法54條第三項裡面
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 那個是法定的法定義務的一個支出
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 你這邊要怎麼做
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 副院長來
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 你們海裡的主任院長回去老婆離家了
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 這樣對嗎
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 跟委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 這是我們國家的法定機關的法定職務
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 他的待遇都是法定經費
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 可以依法可以領取
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 所以也就是說政策
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 因為所有公務員也都是這樣子
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 就是說你政策的推動
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 你確實立法院監督機關
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 還要再看立法院的臉色
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 這哪通
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 你覺得這樣合理嗎
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 來副院長請你
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transcript.whisperx[232].text 依法可以
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transcript.whisperx[235].text 卓院長要怎麼代母交代他們的事情
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 尤其涉及到預算法54條法定義務的支出
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 制度是一致的
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 就是可以依法領取
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 依法進行
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 卓院長也不用自己領了
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 你時間到你本地就要給人家
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 不是這樣說
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 這個提撥也沒有辦法做
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 我不會讓這個例子開一個這樣的惡例
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 這會影響到其他的中央地方的行政部門的官員
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 所以這個例子不能開
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 養你吃飯你也沒錢
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 後面一半就就是那個橙色
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transcript.whisperx[344].text 一定會更多
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transcript.whisperx[345].text 那更多以後造成整個用路人
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transcript.whisperx[348].text 只要判斷這個燈號
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transcript.whisperx[349].text 甚至於對整個交通安全
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transcript.whisperx[350].text 都是一大挑戰
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transcript.whisperx[351].text 我不知道部長
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transcript.whisperx[352].text 我們有新的一個看法
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transcript.whisperx[353].text 就是說
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transcript.whisperx[356].text 來做一個接軌
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transcript.whisperx[358].text 因應這個整個
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transcript.whisperx[360].text 那這一些來對於
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transcript.whisperx[365].text 全部都給他紅色的
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transcript.whisperx[366].text 這樣我們法規上去做一個調和的話
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transcript.whisperx[372].text 有沒有對於這方面法規
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transcript.whisperx[373].text 或者因應整個汽車的零關稅
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transcript.whisperx[374].text 這樣造成交通安全的一個衝擊
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transcript.whisperx[375].text 有沒有因應之道
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transcript.whisperx[376].text 像委員報告
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transcript.whisperx[377].text 以現況來講
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transcript.whisperx[378].text 我們是比較符合UNEC的規範
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transcript.whisperx[379].text 也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[384].text 所以我們是橘黃燈以及紅燈
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transcript.whisperx[385].text 其實我們都是接受
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transcript.whisperx[386].text 現在美國的現況也大概是這個樣子
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transcript.whisperx[387].text 所以美國大概比例上接近一半
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transcript.whisperx[397].text 確實我們就會面臨到
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transcript.whisperx[398].text 可能會有比較大的比例的
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transcript.whisperx[403].text 因為台灣的交通模式
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transcript.whisperx[405].text 因為我們現在混合車流
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transcript.whisperx[407].text 所以剛剛委員所提醒的數據上面
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transcript.whisperx[408].text 車禍比例上面
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transcript.whisperx[412].text 要不要再做更強制性
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transcript.whisperx[413].text 目前我們是比較開放一點
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transcript.whisperx[417].text 如果有需要調整
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transcript.whisperx[418].text 我們都會滾動來檢討
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transcript.whisperx[419].text 所以部長本席在這個地方具體要求
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transcript.whisperx[421].text 帶來交通方面這樣的一個衝擊
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transcript.whisperx[425].text 那是不是我們加速去研議好不好
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transcript.whisperx[426].text 應該調整就調整啦
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transcript.whisperx[427].text 好
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transcript.whisperx[430].text 院長部長我想最後一分鐘的時間要來請教
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transcript.whisperx[431].text 就是說老百姓都是斤斤計較
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transcript.whisperx[432].text 以前我小時候還沒讀書的時候
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transcript.whisperx[433].text 一碗麵兩塊
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transcript.whisperx[434].text 現在一碗麵羊春麵
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transcript.whisperx[435].text 一碗都花了五十塊
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transcript.whisperx[436].text 生活開銷其實都是變大了
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transcript.whisperx[437].text 你看1989年
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transcript.whisperx[438].text 那個無可觀留運動
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transcript.whisperx[441].text 那已經關了現在做阿公了
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transcript.whisperx[442].text 他的孫子現在也是一樣
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transcript.whisperx[447].text 本席認為經過這樣幾十年過去
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transcript.whisperx[478].text 謝謝 張委員時間已到
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transcript.whisperx[479].text 好吧 如果張委員所關切的資料
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transcript.whisperx[480].text 麻煩請勞動部送張委員就是
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transcript.whisperx[481].text 謝謝 謝謝主任