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莊瑞雄 @ 第11屆第6會期第2次會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:03,000 | 有請我們行政院卓院長 |
| 00:00:03,000 | 00:00:03,500 | 麻煩 |
| 00:00:03,500 | 00:00:04,760 | 財政部 |
| 00:00:04,760 | 00:00:05,760 | 莊部長 |
| 00:00:05,760 | 00:00:06,760 | 財政部長被選 |
| 00:00:07,880 | 00:00:08,880 | 財政部 |
| 00:00:08,880 | 00:00:09,880 | 任部長 |
| 00:00:11,880 | 00:00:12,880 | 財政部長 |
| 00:00:23,920 | 00:00:24,920 | 莊委員好 |
| 00:00:25,440 | 00:00:26,560 | 院長辛苦 |
| 00:00:26,560 | 00:00:28,560 | 我想我延續剛剛 |
| 00:00:28,560 | 00:00:29,560 | 中國國民黨 |
| 00:00:29,560 | 00:00:30,560 | 福根級總召 |
| 00:00:30,560 | 00:00:31,560 | 對於 |
| 00:00:33,560 | 00:00:36,560 | 貨物稅對於行政院 |
| 00:00:36,560 | 00:00:38,560 | 這樣嚴厲的一個指責 |
| 00:00:38,560 | 00:00:40,560 | 其實話真的要講清楚 |
| 00:00:40,560 | 00:00:42,560 | 我們在去年 |
| 00:00:42,560 | 00:00:43,560 | 在八月份 |
| 00:00:43,560 | 00:00:45,560 | 其實在民生 |
| 00:00:45,560 | 00:00:47,560 | 五大民生項目的部分 |
| 00:00:47,560 | 00:00:49,560 | 行政院其實做了很多決定 |
| 00:00:49,560 | 00:00:53,560 | 從今年的2026年的1月 |
| 00:00:53,560 | 00:00:56,560 | 其實有很多民生的五大項目裡面 |
| 00:00:56,560 | 00:00:57,560 | 很多貨物稅 |
| 00:00:57,560 | 00:00:58,560 | 它是免徵 |
| 00:00:58,560 | 00:01:01,560 | 而且是關鍵的原物料 |
| 00:01:01,560 | 00:01:03,560 | 那個還是減半了 |
| 00:01:03,560 | 00:01:06,560 | 我想在這個地方要提出來就是說 |
| 00:01:06,560 | 00:01:09,560 | 跟全世界各個國家來做比較 |
| 00:01:09,560 | 00:01:11,560 | 台灣最大的問題 |
| 00:01:11,560 | 00:01:12,560 | 我們如果說要跟日本 |
| 00:01:12,560 | 00:01:14,560 | 跟韓國一樣 |
| 00:01:14,560 | 00:01:16,560 | 把所有的貨物稅 |
| 00:01:16,560 | 00:01:18,560 | 把奢侈稅這樣的一個概念 |
| 00:01:18,560 | 00:01:19,560 | 把它拿開 |
| 00:01:19,560 | 00:01:20,560 | 把它做一個廢除的話 |
| 00:01:20,560 | 00:01:22,560 | 那我相信這個稅制 |
| 00:01:22,560 | 00:01:25,560 | 它是可以大幅度的去賣盡 |
| 00:01:25,560 | 00:01:27,560 | 在國際上談判的時候 |
| 00:01:27,560 | 00:01:28,560 | 也不會被說 |
| 00:01:28,560 | 00:01:30,560 | 我們這個貨物稅的存在 |
| 00:01:30,560 | 00:01:35,560 | 就是自己去設置一個貿易的一個障礙 |
| 00:01:35,560 | 00:01:37,560 | 但是本級在這個地方 |
| 00:01:37,560 | 00:01:38,560 | 其實也要指出來了 |
| 00:01:38,560 | 00:01:40,560 | 這個狀況其實最主要是 |
| 00:01:40,560 | 00:01:41,560 | 我們台灣的稅賦 |
| 00:01:41,560 | 00:01:43,560 | 綜合所得稅 |
| 00:01:43,560 | 00:01:45,560 | 還有我們的營業稅 |
| 00:01:45,560 | 00:01:46,560 | 5% |
| 00:01:46,560 | 00:01:49,560 | 跟全世界各國來比較的話 |
| 00:01:49,560 | 00:01:50,560 | 我們又偏低 |
| 00:01:50,560 | 00:01:51,560 | 我們的營業稅5% |
| 00:01:51,560 | 00:01:53,560 | 就我們消費稅5% |
| 00:01:53,560 | 00:01:55,560 | 日本韓國10% |
| 00:01:55,560 | 00:01:57,560 | 歐盟20% |
| 00:01:57,560 | 00:01:59,560 | 我為什麼提出這個概念 |
| 00:01:59,560 | 00:02:01,560 | 也不是說把行政院 |
| 00:02:01,560 | 00:02:03,560 | 跟你們瞎挺 |
| 00:02:03,560 | 00:02:05,560 | 我認為這個議題 |
| 00:02:05,560 | 00:02:06,560 | 朝野之間 |
| 00:02:06,560 | 00:02:10,560 | 有很大的一個看法的落差存在 |
| 00:02:10,560 | 00:02:12,560 | 在野黨的角色是 |
| 00:02:12,560 | 00:02:14,560 | 好康的都給你建議了 |
| 00:02:14,560 | 00:02:15,560 | 這個貨物稅 |
| 00:02:15,560 | 00:02:16,560 | 我如果老百姓我也希望 |
| 00:02:16,560 | 00:02:17,560 | 我如果廠商我也希望 |
| 00:02:17,560 | 00:02:19,560 | 你貨物稅全部都零 |
| 00:02:19,560 | 00:02:20,560 | 但是這樣這個政府 |
| 00:02:20,560 | 00:02:22,560 | 你整體在執政的時候 |
| 00:02:22,560 | 00:02:24,560 | 你如果說又把這個 |
| 00:02:24,560 | 00:02:25,560 | 貨物稅全面的 |
| 00:02:25,560 | 00:02:28,560 | 你去把它給廢除掉的話 |
| 00:02:28,560 | 00:02:31,560 | 那稅績你可能不對 |
| 00:02:31,560 | 00:02:33,560 | 這樣一年算多少 |
| 00:02:33,560 | 00:02:34,560 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:02:34,560 | 00:02:35,560 | 貨物稅大概一年 |
| 00:02:35,560 | 00:02:37,560 | 收取大概是1500億 |
| 00:02:37,560 | 00:02:39,560 | 那其中10%是納入中央統籌 |
| 00:02:39,560 | 00:02:41,560 | 分配稅款給地方 |
| 00:02:41,560 | 00:02:43,560 | 那也如同委員所說的 |
| 00:02:43,560 | 00:02:44,560 | 在貨物稅的部分 |
| 00:02:44,560 | 00:02:45,560 | 其實它現在已經 |
| 00:02:45,560 | 00:02:47,560 | 跟奢侈是沒有關聯的 |
| 00:02:47,560 | 00:02:49,560 | 事實上它是跟相關的政策 |
| 00:02:49,560 | 00:02:50,560 | 去結合 |
| 00:02:50,560 | 00:02:52,560 | 包含有環保的政策 |
| 00:02:52,560 | 00:02:54,560 | 包含有健康的政策 |
| 00:02:54,560 | 00:02:56,560 | 那因此在去年秋日 |
| 00:02:56,560 | 00:02:57,560 | 就今年開始 |
| 00:02:57,560 | 00:02:58,560 | 不管是家電的 |
| 00:02:58,560 | 00:03:00,560 | 像電視機、錄影機、電商機 |
| 00:03:00,560 | 00:03:02,560 | 等等都已經不再課增貨物稅了 |
| 00:03:02,560 | 00:03:04,560 | 那對於節能減碳的 |
| 00:03:04,560 | 00:03:07,560 | 像三種冷氣機或廚師機、冰箱 |
| 00:03:07,560 | 00:03:10,560 | 我們都可以退稅2000塊的 |
| 00:03:10,560 | 00:03:12,560 | 一個就高效評的 |
| 00:03:12,560 | 00:03:14,560 | 因為我們希望用這種 |
| 00:03:14,560 | 00:03:15,560 | 節能減碳的一個電器 |
| 00:03:15,560 | 00:03:17,560 | 來鼓勵民眾買 |
| 00:03:17,560 | 00:03:18,560 | 所以在貨物稅的部分 |
| 00:03:18,560 | 00:03:20,560 | 貨物稅的部分是減增2000塊 |
| 00:03:20,560 | 00:03:22,560 | 那在電動車跟機車的部分 |
| 00:03:22,560 | 00:03:24,560 | 貨物稅也已經都沒有再徵收了 |
| 00:03:24,560 | 00:03:27,560 | 那另外就是對於像機車的部分 |
| 00:03:27,560 | 00:03:30,560 | 也都給予減增部分了 |
| 00:03:30,560 | 00:03:31,560 | 所以我想這個 |
| 00:03:31,560 | 00:03:34,560 | 基本上在持續的一些做調整 |
| 00:03:34,560 | 00:03:36,560 | 本席的意思就是說 |
| 00:03:36,560 | 00:03:37,560 | 貨員講了一半 |
| 00:03:37,560 | 00:03:39,560 | 他也不是全錯 |
| 00:03:39,560 | 00:03:40,560 | 他是只講了一半 |
| 00:03:40,560 | 00:03:42,560 | 但問題你全部去廢除的話 |
| 00:03:42,560 | 00:03:44,560 | 你政府的因應是什麼 |
| 00:03:44,560 | 00:03:46,560 | 你政府的因應的話 |
| 00:03:46,560 | 00:03:47,560 | 你這個整個營業稅 |
| 00:03:47,560 | 00:03:49,560 | 就是你這個消費你必定要去提高 |
| 00:03:49,560 | 00:03:52,560 | 不然你一年的稅金你少了1500億 |
| 00:03:52,560 | 00:03:53,560 | 那你營業稅提高 |
| 00:03:53,560 | 00:03:55,560 | 你中和首都稅你必須要去提高 |
| 00:03:55,560 | 00:03:56,560 | 你造成的是什麼 |
| 00:03:56,560 | 00:03:57,560 | 尤其是營業稅提高 |
| 00:03:57,560 | 00:03:59,560 | 第一個物價一定漲 |
| 00:03:59,560 | 00:04:02,560 | 你對於現在你政府對於各方面 |
| 00:04:02,560 | 00:04:03,560 | 社福也好 |
| 00:04:03,560 | 00:04:05,560 | 勞退的部分你的補補也好 |
| 00:04:05,560 | 00:04:07,560 | 或者說整個國防各方面的 |
| 00:04:07,560 | 00:04:08,560 | 一個建設也好 |
| 00:04:08,560 | 00:04:09,560 | 你一定會去減 |
| 00:04:09,560 | 00:04:12,560 | 所以當在野黨抓住一個議題 |
| 00:04:12,560 | 00:04:14,560 | 在講的時候很簡單 |
| 00:04:14,560 | 00:04:16,560 | 你說把它廢除掉未必錯 |
| 00:04:16,560 | 00:04:19,560 | 但問題是廢除掉你政府的因應 |
| 00:04:19,560 | 00:04:21,560 | 你這個就要去講清楚 |
| 00:04:21,560 | 00:04:22,560 | 剛才沒講了 |
| 00:04:22,560 | 00:04:25,560 | 所以這個問題我真的什麼都要講了 |
| 00:04:25,560 | 00:04:26,560 | 部長請回 |
| 00:04:26,560 | 00:04:28,560 | 我接下來要請教卓院長 |
| 00:04:28,560 | 00:04:31,560 | 院長我跟你學生這樣 |
| 00:04:31,560 | 00:04:33,560 | 然後超過30年 |
| 00:04:33,560 | 00:04:37,560 | 我常常去想立法院做成一個決議 |
| 00:04:37,560 | 00:04:38,560 | 不是決議 |
| 00:04:38,560 | 00:04:42,560 | 我們預算把你的薪水給刪除掉以後 |
| 00:04:42,560 | 00:04:44,560 | 我第一個想到的 |
| 00:04:44,560 | 00:04:47,560 | 都不是引起多大的一個衝擊 |
| 00:04:47,560 | 00:04:51,560 | 這個今天假設立法院 |
| 00:04:51,560 | 00:04:54,560 | 是把韓院長的薪水刪除掉 |
| 00:04:54,560 | 00:04:56,560 | 沒完沒了 |
| 00:04:56,560 | 00:04:59,560 | 因為韓院長我對他的個性的了解 |
| 00:04:59,560 | 00:05:00,560 | 他差不多一年 |
| 00:05:00,560 | 00:05:02,560 | 因為我免得給你虧 |
| 00:05:02,560 | 00:05:04,560 | 你整個國家你全部都是嚴當 |
| 00:05:04,560 | 00:05:06,560 | 這第一個問題 |
| 00:05:06,560 | 00:05:07,560 | 第二個問題 |
| 00:05:07,560 | 00:05:09,560 | 沒有第二個問題就是說 |
| 00:05:09,560 | 00:05:12,560 | 韓院長他老婆跟卓院長老婆 |
| 00:05:12,560 | 00:05:14,560 | 兩個去修下午茶 |
| 00:05:14,560 | 00:05:16,560 | 誰要六錢 |
| 00:05:16,560 | 00:05:17,560 | 你們這樣誰要六錢 |
| 00:05:17,560 | 00:05:19,560 | 你叫他們兩個在那邊消費 |
| 00:05:19,560 | 00:05:20,560 | 我覺得很浪費 |
| 00:05:20,560 | 00:05:21,560 | 我做你的朋友很浪費 |
| 00:05:21,560 | 00:05:23,560 | 你做到現在一定算多大 |
| 00:05:23,560 | 00:05:25,560 | 因為你薪水沒辦法拿回來 |
| 00:05:25,560 | 00:05:27,560 | 那如果母跟母在說 |
| 00:05:27,560 | 00:05:28,560 | 你們人一般多少 |
| 00:05:28,560 | 00:05:31,560 | 韓院長你母出來說我們人37萬 |
| 00:05:31,560 | 00:05:33,560 | 卓院長你母出來說我們人0 |
| 00:05:33,560 | 00:05:34,560 | 你就浪費了 |
| 00:05:34,560 | 00:05:36,560 | 我人一定說 |
| 00:05:36,560 | 00:05:38,560 | 做到現在一定沒路了 |
| 00:05:38,560 | 00:05:40,560 | 只有一天他們薪水都沒拿回來 |
| 00:05:40,560 | 00:05:42,560 | 我的意思就是說 |
| 00:05:42,560 | 00:05:47,560 | 這個一個國家分官設職 |
| 00:05:47,560 | 00:05:50,560 | 公務人員法定待遇該多少 |
| 00:05:50,560 | 00:05:52,560 | 他就應該就是要多少 |
| 00:05:52,560 | 00:05:55,560 | 他有什麼立法院做成一個決議 |
| 00:05:55,560 | 00:05:57,560 | 可以把國家 |
| 00:05:57,560 | 00:06:00,560 | 我們可以把國家任何的一個政策的一個施行 |
| 00:06:00,560 | 00:06:01,560 | 或者新 |
| 00:06:01,560 | 00:06:03,560 | 你如果說今天是新興資本 |
| 00:06:03,560 | 00:06:05,560 | 或者說新興計畫 |
| 00:06:05,560 | 00:06:07,560 | 你不要去做一個推動 |
| 00:06:07,560 | 00:06:09,560 | 立法院站在一個監督單位 |
| 00:06:09,560 | 00:06:11,560 | 那本來就有錢來做一個決定 |
| 00:06:11,560 | 00:06:13,560 | 但是其他你按照預算法 |
| 00:06:13,560 | 00:06:14,560 | 50%的規定 |
| 00:06:14,560 | 00:06:17,560 | 立法院我們給你延當350元一天 |
| 00:06:17,560 | 00:06:19,560 | 還要一天的出資 |
| 00:06:19,560 | 00:06:22,560 | 發現還沒通過以前 |
| 00:06:22,560 | 00:06:24,560 | 我都跟院長的薪水 |
| 00:06:24,560 | 00:06:26,560 | 還沒通過延當 |
| 00:06:26,560 | 00:06:28,560 | 反而你有薪水可以領 |
| 00:06:28,560 | 00:06:29,560 | 做成決議以後 |
| 00:06:29,560 | 00:06:31,560 | 你說沒薪水 |
| 00:06:31,560 | 00:06:32,560 | 你回去你母不願意 |
| 00:06:32,560 | 00:06:34,560 | 請院長回答 |
| 00:06:36,560 | 00:06:37,560 | 是沒有那麼嚴重 |
| 00:06:37,560 | 00:06:39,560 | 我只是多做一些家事而已 |
| 00:06:40,560 | 00:06:42,560 | 多做一些家事 |
| 00:06:42,560 | 00:06:43,560 | 沒有 |
| 00:06:43,560 | 00:06:47,560 | 其實你這個你回家跟你老婆怎麼交代 |
| 00:06:47,560 | 00:06:49,560 | 那是你個人要去交代 |
| 00:06:49,560 | 00:06:51,560 | 但問題是 |
| 00:06:51,560 | 00:06:54,560 | 你涉及到整個國家的一個制度 |
| 00:06:54,560 | 00:06:56,560 | 你院長該多少就是多少 |
| 00:06:56,560 | 00:07:00,560 | 你這個官職部長該多少就是多少 |
| 00:07:00,560 | 00:07:02,560 | 這個預算法54條第三項裡面 |
| 00:07:02,560 | 00:07:06,560 | 那個是法定的法定義務的一個支出 |
| 00:07:06,560 | 00:07:08,560 | 你這邊要怎麼做 |
| 00:07:08,560 | 00:07:10,560 | 副院長來 |
| 00:07:10,560 | 00:07:12,560 | 副院長上來 |
| 00:07:12,560 | 00:07:14,560 | 副主任 |
| 00:07:14,560 | 00:07:16,560 | 副院長請備詢 |
| 00:07:20,560 | 00:07:21,560 | 副院長 |
| 00:07:21,560 | 00:07:23,560 | 你們這不講清楚 |
| 00:07:23,560 | 00:07:25,560 | 你們海裡的主任院長回去老婆離家了 |
| 00:07:25,560 | 00:07:26,560 | 這樣對嗎 |
| 00:07:26,560 | 00:07:28,560 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:07:28,560 | 00:07:32,560 | 這是我們國家的法定機關的法定職務 |
| 00:07:32,560 | 00:07:35,560 | 他的待遇都是法定經費 |
| 00:07:35,560 | 00:07:37,560 | 可以依法可以領取 |
| 00:07:37,560 | 00:07:40,560 | 所以也就是說政策 |
| 00:07:40,560 | 00:07:42,560 | 因為所有公務員也都是這樣子 |
| 00:07:42,560 | 00:07:44,560 | 就是說你政策的推動 |
| 00:07:44,560 | 00:07:46,560 | 你確實立法院監督機關 |
| 00:07:46,560 | 00:07:48,560 | 你確實講白話就是要看立法院的臉色 |
| 00:07:48,560 | 00:07:51,560 | 但問題是公務人員的薪資 |
| 00:07:51,560 | 00:07:53,560 | 還要再看立法院的臉色 |
| 00:07:53,560 | 00:07:54,560 | 這哪通 |
| 00:07:54,560 | 00:07:55,560 | 你覺得這樣合理嗎 |
| 00:07:55,560 | 00:07:57,560 | 來副院長請你 |
| 00:07:58,560 | 00:07:59,560 | 依法可以 |
| 00:07:59,560 | 00:08:01,560 | 院長的薪資是可以領取 |
| 00:08:01,560 | 00:08:03,560 | 我的意思是說 |
| 00:08:03,560 | 00:08:06,560 | 卓院長要怎麼代母交代他們的事情 |
| 00:08:06,560 | 00:08:07,560 | 蘇聯的事情 |
| 00:08:07,560 | 00:08:09,560 | 但是涉及到國家 |
| 00:08:09,560 | 00:08:13,560 | 尤其涉及到預算法54條法定義務的支出 |
| 00:08:13,560 | 00:08:16,560 | 這個國家要向人民講清楚 |
| 00:08:16,560 | 00:08:18,560 | 制度是一致的 |
| 00:08:18,560 | 00:08:20,560 | 就是可以依法領取 |
| 00:08:20,560 | 00:08:21,560 | 依法進行 |
| 00:08:21,560 | 00:08:23,560 | 卓院長也不用自己領了 |
| 00:08:23,560 | 00:08:25,560 | 你時間到你本地就要給人家 |
| 00:08:25,560 | 00:08:26,560 | 不是這樣說 |
| 00:08:26,560 | 00:08:28,560 | 他的薪水不是我發的 |
| 00:08:28,560 | 00:08:29,560 | 薪水不是你發的 |
| 00:08:29,560 | 00:08:32,559 | 所以院長應該下個月就有薪水了 |
| 00:08:32,559 | 00:08:33,559 | 兩件事情 |
| 00:08:33,559 | 00:08:36,559 | 一個因為薪水沒有撥付下來 |
| 00:08:36,559 | 00:08:38,559 | 這個欠保費也沒有的繳 |
| 00:08:38,559 | 00:08:41,559 | 很多的公務人員必要的退休的 |
| 00:08:41,559 | 00:08:44,560 | 這個提撥也沒有辦法做 |
| 00:08:44,560 | 00:08:46,560 | 所以這個月 |
| 00:08:46,560 | 00:08:48,560 | 九月份是整個空白在這裡 |
| 00:08:48,560 | 00:08:49,560 | 但是我的想法是 |
| 00:08:49,560 | 00:08:53,560 | 我不會讓這個例子開一個這樣的惡例 |
| 00:08:53,560 | 00:08:57,560 | 這會影響到其他的中央地方的行政部門的官員 |
| 00:08:57,560 | 00:08:59,560 | 所以這個例子不能開 |
| 00:08:59,560 | 00:09:00,560 | 但是我這個月沒有領 |
| 00:09:00,560 | 00:09:02,560 | 我是尊重立法院 |
| 00:09:02,560 | 00:09:04,560 | 但是我尊重立法院 |
| 00:09:04,560 | 00:09:06,560 | 我更尊重法律 |
| 00:09:06,560 | 00:09:07,560 | 是啦這樣才對嘛 |
| 00:09:07,560 | 00:09:09,560 | 這樣的一個態度才對嘛 |
| 00:09:09,560 | 00:09:11,560 | 不然開這樣的一個惡例的話 |
| 00:09:11,560 | 00:09:13,560 | 我覺得就沒完沒了啦 |
| 00:09:13,560 | 00:09:14,560 | 尤其喔 |
| 00:09:14,560 | 00:09:15,560 | 自己比較好的人輸掉了 |
| 00:09:15,560 | 00:09:16,560 | 都不敢養你吃飯 |
| 00:09:16,560 | 00:09:17,560 | 養你吃飯你也沒錢 |
| 00:09:17,560 | 00:09:18,560 | 大家也不敢請你 |
| 00:09:18,560 | 00:09:20,560 | 那個副院長請回 |
| 00:09:20,560 | 00:09:23,560 | 另外我請交通部陳部長 |
| 00:09:23,560 | 00:09:25,560 | 麻煩請交通部長備詢 |
| 00:09:30,560 | 00:09:31,560 | 部長 |
| 00:09:31,560 | 00:09:35,560 | 最近美國美制車輛零關稅這樣的議題 |
| 00:09:35,560 | 00:09:37,560 | 在引起討論 |
| 00:09:37,560 | 00:09:40,560 | 本期這個地方要來就教就是說 |
| 00:09:40,560 | 00:09:41,560 | 美國車要進來 |
| 00:09:41,560 | 00:09:43,560 | 零關稅進來 |
| 00:09:43,560 | 00:09:44,560 | 站在老百姓的立場 |
| 00:09:44,560 | 00:09:45,560 | 他一定很開心 |
| 00:09:45,560 | 00:09:46,560 | 給很羞 |
| 00:09:46,560 | 00:09:47,560 | 但問題 |
| 00:09:47,560 | 00:09:49,560 | 除了便宜之外 |
| 00:09:49,560 | 00:09:51,560 | 本期在這個地方有一個 |
| 00:09:51,560 | 00:09:52,560 | 有一個很大的問題 |
| 00:09:52,560 | 00:09:54,560 | 就是這個車輛的車輛 |
| 00:09:54,560 | 00:09:55,560 | 在美國的車輛 |
| 00:09:55,560 | 00:09:56,560 | 在美國的車輛 |
| 00:09:56,560 | 00:09:57,560 | 在美國的車輛 |
| 00:09:57,560 | 00:09:58,560 | 除了便宜之外 |
| 00:09:58,560 | 00:10:00,560 | 本期在這個地方有一個 |
| 00:10:00,560 | 00:10:02,560 | 比較嚴肅的議題要來請教 |
| 00:10:02,560 | 00:10:04,560 | 就說美國車 |
| 00:10:04,560 | 00:10:06,560 | 他那個後方的一個方向燈 |
| 00:10:06,560 | 00:10:08,560 | 車尾燈這個地方 |
| 00:10:08,560 | 00:10:10,560 | 他們紅色的 |
| 00:10:10,560 | 00:10:14,560 | 後面一半就就是那個橙色 |
| 00:10:14,560 | 00:10:17,560 | 就是說我們一般在開車的時候 |
| 00:10:17,560 | 00:10:19,560 | 我們如果有紅燈 |
| 00:10:19,560 | 00:10:21,560 | 他會煞車 |
| 00:10:21,560 | 00:10:23,560 | 如果要右轉的時候 |
| 00:10:23,560 | 00:10:25,560 | 我們台灣這裡就差不多橙色 |
| 00:10:25,560 | 00:10:27,560 | 美國車一個進來之後 |
| 00:10:27,560 | 00:10:28,560 | 這很麻煩 |
| 00:10:28,560 | 00:10:29,560 | 現在就是說 |
| 00:10:29,560 | 00:10:31,560 | 你車要右轉 |
| 00:10:31,560 | 00:10:32,560 | 還是要左轉 |
| 00:10:32,560 | 00:10:33,560 | 要左轉的時候 |
| 00:10:33,560 | 00:10:35,560 | 尤其是在下雨天 |
| 00:10:35,560 | 00:10:37,560 | 在台灣這個問題就很嚴肅 |
| 00:10:37,560 | 00:10:39,560 | 我們機車 汽車 |
| 00:10:39,560 | 00:10:41,560 | 我們沒有分流 |
| 00:10:41,560 | 00:10:42,560 | 都跟他交際會 |
| 00:10:42,560 | 00:10:44,560 | 你剛好暗示 |
| 00:10:44,560 | 00:10:45,560 | 你剛好下雨天 |
| 00:10:45,560 | 00:10:46,560 | 那個燈光 |
| 00:10:46,560 | 00:10:48,560 | 你確實你很難去判斷 |
| 00:10:48,560 | 00:10:49,560 | 他到底要煞車 |
| 00:10:49,560 | 00:10:51,560 | 或者到底要右轉 |
| 00:10:51,560 | 00:10:52,560 | 按照美國 |
| 00:10:52,560 | 00:10:54,560 | 你看從2008 2009 |
| 00:10:54,560 | 00:10:56,560 | 他們去做出來的一個研究 |
| 00:10:56,560 | 00:11:00,560 | 就是說如果你右方要去方向 |
| 00:11:00,560 | 00:11:01,560 | 你那個方向燈 |
| 00:11:01,560 | 00:11:03,560 | 你如果是用橙黃色的 |
| 00:11:03,560 | 00:11:05,560 | 那個兩部車的照視率 |
| 00:11:05,560 | 00:11:07,560 | 會降低到5% |
| 00:11:07,560 | 00:11:09,560 | 降低到5% |
| 00:11:09,560 | 00:11:12,560 | 那你從2008 2009 |
| 00:11:12,560 | 00:11:13,560 | 美國是這樣 |
| 00:11:13,560 | 00:11:15,560 | 在日本 在韓國 |
| 00:11:15,560 | 00:11:17,560 | 甚至在歐盟 |
| 00:11:17,560 | 00:11:20,560 | 他們的方向燈你只要要轉的 |
| 00:11:20,560 | 00:11:21,560 | 就不是什麼紅燈 |
| 00:11:21,560 | 00:11:22,560 | 跟台灣不一樣 |
| 00:11:22,560 | 00:11:23,560 | 那有沒有可能 |
| 00:11:23,560 | 00:11:28,560 | 因應這個整個汽車零關稅 |
| 00:11:28,560 | 00:11:30,560 | 你汽車便宜以後 |
| 00:11:30,560 | 00:11:31,560 | 我相信美國車 |
| 00:11:31,560 | 00:11:34,560 | 美國規格的車輛進口到台灣 |
| 00:11:34,560 | 00:11:35,560 | 一定會更多 |
| 00:11:35,560 | 00:11:39,560 | 那更多以後造成整個用路人 |
| 00:11:39,560 | 00:11:40,560 | 開車的人 |
| 00:11:40,560 | 00:11:41,560 | 你對於他來說 |
| 00:11:41,560 | 00:11:42,560 | 只要判斷這個燈號 |
| 00:11:42,560 | 00:11:44,560 | 甚至於對整個交通安全 |
| 00:11:44,560 | 00:11:47,560 | 都是一大挑戰 |
| 00:11:47,560 | 00:11:48,560 | 我不知道部長 |
| 00:11:48,560 | 00:11:51,560 | 我們有新的一個看法 |
| 00:11:51,560 | 00:11:52,560 | 就是說 |
| 00:11:52,560 | 00:11:53,560 | 我們應該 |
| 00:11:53,560 | 00:11:55,560 | 國際上來做一個接軌 |
| 00:11:55,560 | 00:11:57,560 | 來做一個接軌 |
| 00:11:57,560 | 00:11:59,560 | 你說其他先進的國家 |
| 00:11:59,560 | 00:12:01,560 | 因應這個整個 |
| 00:12:01,560 | 00:12:03,560 | 台灣的整個用路的一個情況 |
| 00:12:03,560 | 00:12:05,560 | 那這一些來對於 |
| 00:12:05,560 | 00:12:07,560 | 如果說右轉燈 |
| 00:12:07,560 | 00:12:09,560 | 我們不要全部 |
| 00:12:09,560 | 00:12:11,560 | 我們台灣現在就有一半 |
| 00:12:11,560 | 00:12:13,560 | 我們不要像美國車進來之後 |
| 00:12:13,560 | 00:12:14,560 | 全部都給他紅色的 |
| 00:12:14,560 | 00:12:18,560 | 這樣我們法規上去做一個調和的話 |
| 00:12:18,560 | 00:12:21,560 | 對於整個台灣在用路 |
| 00:12:21,560 | 00:12:22,560 | 對駕駛人 |
| 00:12:22,560 | 00:12:24,560 | 在開車的安全上 |
| 00:12:24,560 | 00:12:26,560 | 有很大的一個提升 |
| 00:12:26,560 | 00:12:28,560 | 我不曉得我們交通部 |
| 00:12:28,560 | 00:12:30,560 | 有沒有對於這方面法規 |
| 00:12:30,560 | 00:12:33,560 | 或者因應整個汽車的零關稅 |
| 00:12:33,560 | 00:12:35,560 | 這樣造成交通安全的一個衝擊 |
| 00:12:35,560 | 00:12:36,560 | 有沒有因應之道 |
| 00:12:36,560 | 00:12:38,560 | 像委員報告 |
| 00:12:38,560 | 00:12:40,560 | 以現況來講 |
| 00:12:40,560 | 00:12:42,560 | 我們是比較符合UNEC的規範 |
| 00:12:42,560 | 00:12:43,560 | 也就是說 |
| 00:12:43,560 | 00:12:46,560 | 澳洲跟日本跟歐洲 |
| 00:12:46,560 | 00:12:47,560 | 跟歐洲 |
| 00:12:47,560 | 00:12:50,560 | 他們的系統基本上是以橘黃燈為主 |
| 00:12:50,560 | 00:12:53,560 | 那台灣因為我們現在還有一些美制車會進來 |
| 00:12:53,560 | 00:12:55,560 | 所以我們是橘黃燈以及紅燈 |
| 00:12:55,560 | 00:12:56,560 | 其實我們都是接受 |
| 00:12:56,560 | 00:12:58,560 | 現在美國的現況也大概是這個樣子 |
| 00:12:58,560 | 00:13:02,560 | 所以美國大概比例上接近一半 |
| 00:13:02,560 | 00:13:03,560 | 有一些是紅燈 |
| 00:13:03,560 | 00:13:05,560 | 那有一些是橘黃燈 |
| 00:13:05,560 | 00:13:07,560 | 那我剛剛講的歐洲日本跟澳洲 |
| 00:13:07,560 | 00:13:09,560 | 他們都是以橘黃燈為主 |
| 00:13:09,560 | 00:13:11,560 | 那現在台灣有個問題就是說 |
| 00:13:11,560 | 00:13:14,560 | 我們的主要的法規的依循大部分 |
| 00:13:14,560 | 00:13:16,560 | 大部分都是依照UNEC |
| 00:13:16,560 | 00:13:20,560 | 那也就是說比較接近歐洲跟日本的系統 |
| 00:13:20,560 | 00:13:22,560 | 但現在因為美國車要進來了 |
| 00:13:22,560 | 00:13:23,560 | 確實我們就會面臨到 |
| 00:13:23,560 | 00:13:25,560 | 可能會有比較大的比例的 |
| 00:13:25,560 | 00:13:29,560 | 紅色的轉彎燈 |
| 00:13:29,560 | 00:13:32,560 | 紅色燈會比較多一些進來 |
| 00:13:32,560 | 00:13:34,560 | 那我們目前也在看看說 |
| 00:13:34,560 | 00:13:37,560 | 這個部分造成台灣的交通的模式 |
| 00:13:37,560 | 00:13:38,560 | 因為台灣的交通模式 |
| 00:13:38,560 | 00:13:40,560 | 其實跟美國不一定一樣 |
| 00:13:40,560 | 00:13:41,560 | 因為我們現在混合車流 |
| 00:13:41,560 | 00:13:43,560 | 其實相對比較複雜一點 |
| 00:13:43,560 | 00:13:46,560 | 所以剛剛委員所提醒的數據上面 |
| 00:13:46,560 | 00:13:48,560 | 車禍比例上面 |
| 00:13:48,560 | 00:13:50,560 | 我覺得台灣必須要先再做一套 |
| 00:13:50,560 | 00:13:52,560 | 那委員現在提醒說 |
| 00:13:52,560 | 00:13:53,560 | 未來法規上面 |
| 00:13:53,560 | 00:13:56,560 | 要不要再做更強制性 |
| 00:13:56,560 | 00:13:58,560 | 目前我們是比較開放一點 |
| 00:13:58,560 | 00:14:00,560 | 就是說橘黃燈可以 |
| 00:14:00,560 | 00:14:01,560 | 紅燈也可以 |
| 00:14:01,560 | 00:14:03,560 | 那未來我們看造勢的狀況 |
| 00:14:03,560 | 00:14:04,560 | 如果有需要調整 |
| 00:14:04,560 | 00:14:05,560 | 我們都會滾動來檢討 |
| 00:14:05,560 | 00:14:08,560 | 所以部長本席在這個地方具體要求 |
| 00:14:08,560 | 00:14:11,560 | 因應整個汽車的零關稅 |
| 00:14:11,560 | 00:14:15,560 | 帶來交通方面這樣的一個衝擊 |
| 00:14:15,560 | 00:14:17,560 | 畢竟美國地方大 |
| 00:14:17,560 | 00:14:19,560 | 美國用車用路的情況 |
| 00:14:19,560 | 00:14:20,560 | 跟台灣不太一樣 |
| 00:14:20,560 | 00:14:23,560 | 那是不是我們加速去研議好不好 |
| 00:14:23,560 | 00:14:25,560 | 應該調整就調整啦 |
| 00:14:25,560 | 00:14:26,560 | 好 |
| 00:14:26,560 | 00:14:28,560 | 院長請暫停請勞動部長 |
| 00:14:28,560 | 00:14:31,560 | 請勞動部長備選 |
| 00:14:42,560 | 00:14:48,560 | 院長部長我想最後一分鐘的時間要來請教 |
| 00:14:48,560 | 00:14:51,560 | 就是說老百姓都是斤斤計較 |
| 00:14:51,560 | 00:14:54,560 | 以前我小時候還沒讀書的時候 |
| 00:14:54,560 | 00:14:55,560 | 一碗麵兩塊 |
| 00:14:55,560 | 00:14:57,560 | 現在一碗麵羊春麵 |
| 00:14:57,560 | 00:14:59,560 | 一碗都花了五十塊 |
| 00:14:59,560 | 00:15:01,560 | 生活開銷其實都是變大了 |
| 00:15:01,560 | 00:15:03,560 | 你看1989年 |
| 00:15:03,560 | 00:15:06,560 | 那個無可觀留運動 |
| 00:15:06,560 | 00:15:07,560 | 就夜宿中小動路 |
| 00:15:07,560 | 00:15:08,560 | 那場合有對嗎 |
| 00:15:08,560 | 00:15:11,560 | 那已經關了現在做阿公了 |
| 00:15:11,560 | 00:15:13,560 | 他的孫子現在也是一樣 |
| 00:15:13,560 | 00:15:15,560 | 很多人還是沒有殼 |
| 00:15:15,560 | 00:15:17,560 | 我們在2005年 |
| 00:15:17,560 | 00:15:21,560 | 勞工薪資去做一個改變 |
| 00:15:21,560 | 00:15:24,560 | 那以現在的雇主提撥6% |
| 00:15:24,560 | 00:15:28,560 | 本席認為經過這樣幾十年過去 |
| 00:15:28,560 | 00:15:30,560 | 二十年過去以後 |
| 00:15:30,560 | 00:15:33,560 | 有沒有可能再去提高 |
| 00:15:33,560 | 00:15:36,560 | 連審計部都認為太少了 |
| 00:15:36,560 | 00:15:40,560 | 現在真正提撥雇主提撥的6.04 |
| 00:15:40,560 | 00:15:41,560 | 法定是6%嘛 |
| 00:15:41,560 | 00:15:44,560 | 這代表說我們這個經過 |
| 00:16:06,560 | 00:16:09,560 | 我們希望行政院尤其是勞動部 |
| 00:16:09,560 | 00:16:12,560 | 加速免疫對勞工的照顧 |
| 00:16:12,560 | 00:16:14,560 | 並進行這樣的一個制度 |
| 00:16:14,560 | 00:16:15,560 | 過了二十年 |
| 00:16:15,560 | 00:16:18,560 | 沒有去做任何的去研議 |
| 00:16:18,560 | 00:16:20,560 | 沒有去做任何的去研議 |
| 00:16:20,560 | 00:16:23,560 | 我們希望行政院尤其是勞動部 |
| 00:16:23,560 | 00:16:26,560 | 加速免疫對勞工的照顧 |
| 00:16:26,560 | 00:16:28,560 | 並進行這樣的一個制度 |
| 00:16:28,560 | 00:16:29,560 | 過了二十年 |
| 00:16:29,560 | 00:16:32,560 | 沒有去做任何的去研議 |
| 00:16:32,560 | 00:16:34,560 | 我們希望行政院尤其是勞動部 |
| 00:16:34,560 | 00:16:37,560 | 加速免疫對勞工的照顧 |
| 00:16:37,560 | 00:16:40,560 | 並進行這樣的一個制度 |
| 00:16:40,560 | 00:16:41,560 | 過了二十年 |
| 00:16:41,560 | 00:16:44,560 | 沒有去做任何的去研議 |
| 00:16:44,560 | 00:16:47,560 | 我們希望行政院尤其是勞動部 |
| 00:16:47,560 | 00:16:50,560 | 加速免疫對勞工的照顧 |
| 00:16:50,560 | 00:16:53,560 | 並進行這樣的一個制度 |
| 00:16:53,560 | 00:16:54,560 | 過了二十年 |
| 00:16:54,560 | 00:16:56,560 | 沒有去做任何的去研議 |
| 00:16:56,560 | 00:16:59,560 | 我們希望行政院尤其是勞動部 |
| 00:16:59,560 | 00:17:02,560 | 加速免疫對勞工的照顧 |
| 00:17:03,560 | 00:17:05,560 | 好 謝謝 |
| 00:17:05,560 | 00:17:08,560 | 謝謝 張委員時間已到 |
| 00:17:08,560 | 00:17:11,560 | 好吧 如果張委員所關切的資料 |
| 00:17:11,560 | 00:17:13,560 | 麻煩請勞動部送張委員就是 |
| 00:17:13,560 | 00:17:14,560 | 謝謝 謝謝主任 |