| IVOD_ID |
171081 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171081 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-22,15-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T12:10:37+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T12:25:36+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:10:37 - 12:25:36 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查
(一) 委員黃仁等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(二) 委員高金素梅等24人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(四) 委員林倩綺等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(五) 委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(六) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
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杜副主任委員張梅莊 |
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杜副主任委員張梅莊 |
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0.835 |
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0 |
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2.2 |
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教委來進行詢答 |
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6.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
8.16 |
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好 謝謝主席 |
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8.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
9.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
有請 |
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10.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
11.36 |
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張亮萬尖 |
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11.92 |
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12.56 |
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鄭次 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
13.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
15.04 |
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還有元明慧 |
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15.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
17.04 |
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常務副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
17.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
18.16 |
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好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
18.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
20 |
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有請社長副主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
21.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
21.6 |
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好 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
22.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
22.72 |
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我也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
23.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
24.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
你好 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
24.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
28 |
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我們依據原住民教育法第15條規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
28 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
28.96 |
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各級政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
29 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
29.76 |
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得勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
30 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
30.64 |
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需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
31.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
34.52 |
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設立各級原住民學校或原住民的教育班 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
34.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
36.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
以利原住民學生就學 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
36.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
38.24 |
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維護其文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
38.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
39.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
就 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
39.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
40.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
前項 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
40.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
42.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
原住民學校的設立事項 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
43.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
43.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
另 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
43.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
44.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
以 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
44.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
44.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
法 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
44.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
45.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
律 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
45.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
45.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
45.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
46.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
46.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
48.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
原住民學校的一個設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
49.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
52.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
本來就應該透過專法來規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
52.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
52.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
53.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
54.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
教文排審 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
54.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
57.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
原住民族學校法的這個草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
57.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
59.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
共有六個原民委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
59.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
60.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
提案版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
60.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
61.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
除了回應 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
62.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
67.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
原住民族教育法的第15條所規定的立法要求提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
68.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
71.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
更是同時反映了一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
72.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
72.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
73.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
74.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
74.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
75.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
76.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
79.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
民族的社會教育現場 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
79.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
80.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
等不及了 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
81.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
84.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
只能先行提行法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
85.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
86.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
推動立法 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
86.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
87.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
但 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
87.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
91 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
本來就應該要最早提出整體規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
91 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
93.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
承擔行政責任的行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
94.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
96.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
反而長期的一個缺席 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
96.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
97.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
請問教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
97.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
98.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
99.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
100.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
你們在做什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
101.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
102.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
可以回答一下嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
107.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
108.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
110.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
事實上在原住民族教育上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
110.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
112.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
我們跟那個教育部是協力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
112.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
114.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
那針對文化的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
114.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
114.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
115.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
117.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
那我們事實上在整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
117.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
118.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
所以你覺得你有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
120.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
121.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
這個教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
121.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
122.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
這個學校法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
122.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
124.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
我們事實上也有做了很多的 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
125.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
127.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
研習相關委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
127.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
129.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
另外我們的準備工作也在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
129.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
所以我們最近 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
130.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
132.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
我們在我們說沒有提到說 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
132.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
134.48 |
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我們有一個2.0的原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
134.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
136 |
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學校的這個設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
136.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
137.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
那這個就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
137.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
139.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
實驗學校的2.0版 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
139.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
140.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
就是我們讓它 |
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140.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
143.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
提升到它事實上是未來原住民學校的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
143.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
示範的一個model |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
145.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
147.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
所以你有在做2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
147.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
151.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
但是你沒有立法律訂制 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
152.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
153 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
你沒有合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
153 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
我們是希望說 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
154.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
156.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我有做但不知道合法 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
156.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
157.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
157.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
159.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
如果在法律上需要怎麼樣的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
159.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
我們就要來升級這個法律 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
160.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
161 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
我跟你講 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
161 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
162.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
伍立華早晚也在對著我笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
164.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
166.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
他覺得我點破了 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
166.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
167.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
不是因為委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
168.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
170.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
我跟你講今天不同政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
170.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
172.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
但是他是為了原住民發聲 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
172.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
173.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
我就認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
174.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
175.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
設立這個法是沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
175.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
176.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
是我們是不會反對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
176.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
我只是說在準備工作上 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
178.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
180.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
我們覺得說是不是有分階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
180.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
181.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
你沒有反對 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
181.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
182.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
你有沒有版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
183.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
184.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
184.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
185.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
186.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
187.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
因為我們現在是分階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
187.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
188.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
所以我們後面的法的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
188.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
190.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
我們事實上還沒有提出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
190.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
192.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
那就拖了這麼久 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
192.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
193.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
這就是重點 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
193.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
196.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
那教育部今天在書面報告也寫 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
196.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
197.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
原住民族的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
197.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
201.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
是以原住民族的知識體系為主 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
201.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
206.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
一民族教育哲學與目標實施的教育學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
207 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
210.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
因此原住民族的學校法的中央主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
210.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
215.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
一統一由原民會擔任主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
215.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
216.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
217.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
217.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
政次 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
219.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
220.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
所以你的這個說法 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
221.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
222.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
意思就是說原民會處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
222.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
223.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
223.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
225.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
我們一般教育當然是教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
225.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
那我們希望說原民教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
227.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
228.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
當然是希望有原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
228.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
230.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
行政院也早在2016年 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
230.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
231.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
就已經明確分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
231.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
235.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
教育部負責全面修正原住民族的教育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
235.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
235.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
已經修完 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
235.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
240.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
但是原民會研議制定原住民族的學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
240.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
241.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
所以我先問 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
242.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
246.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
教育部能不能認同訂專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
246.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
249.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
我們相當支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
250.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
252.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
但是要訂的話請原民會訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
252.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
255.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
主政機關在105年就分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
255.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
257.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
然後在原教法設立之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
257.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
258.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
第15條 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
259.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
261.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
我們本來就是也認同說 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
261.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
263.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
那個是雙軌的教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
263.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
264.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
一般教育部來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
264.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
那如果像國歌會 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
266.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
267.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
他也會設試驗導蟲 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
267.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
269.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
所以你就是輔助 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
269.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
269.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
他主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
269.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
270.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
好來謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
271.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
272.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
那請問一下原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
273.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
275.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
你有沒有認定自己是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
277.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
278.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
沒關係你正常回答就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
278.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
280.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
你不要覺得我講讓你很為難 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
280.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
282.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
你就正常你覺得是就是不是就不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
283.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
285.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
當然如果做原住民事務來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
285.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
287.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
我們能夠讓原民會來主導 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
287.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
289.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
這個所有的法案當然是責無旁貸 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
290.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
292.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
但是我們必須考慮現實的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
292.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
293.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
就是原民會現在的量能 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
293.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
294.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
有沒有辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
294.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
296.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
未來的執行上有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
296.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
299.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
所以你覺得現在不需要訂專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
299.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
299.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
300.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
302.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
目前我們是分階段來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
302.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
305.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
沒關係現在是不是不需要訂專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
305.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
307.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
先做好準備所有的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
307.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
309.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
都把它克服或是知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
309.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
問題未來怎麼解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
310.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
312.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
我們再來立這個法會比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
312.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
313.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
沒有那我幫你定義 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
314.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
316.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
就是說你認為可以先做 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
316.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
也就是你剛說的2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
317.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
但是不需要訂專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
319.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
320.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
對吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
322.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
不好意思請直接回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
324.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
325.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
是或錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
325.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
對目前是不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
326.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
328.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
328.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
330.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
最近審查電競專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
331.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
333.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
運動部很明確的告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
333.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
334.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
支持電競發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
335.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
338.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
但不支持現階段訂專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
338.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
341.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
因為現行有國民體育法 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
341.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
342.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
運動產業發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
342.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
343.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
已經有法源 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
343.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
制度不足可以補強 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
348.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
也可以透過預算的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
348.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
350.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
或者是我們的運動白皮書 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
350.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
351.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
來做協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
352.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
354.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
反觀原住民族學校法 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
354.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
356.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
原民會今天的態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
356.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
剛剛有說現階段我們可以先做 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
358.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
359.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
但不用立專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
360.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
361.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
那這樣子的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
361.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
363.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
我反而要念武力華招圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
365.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
那你這樣是強排 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
366.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
人家沒有要訂這個法 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
368.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
369.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
你怎麼強排這個執法呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
370.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
不對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
371.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
373.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
立法委員就是可以討論嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
374.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
374.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
374.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
377.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
可是當時我排電競法的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
377.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
379.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
徹底攻擊我 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
379.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
說我強排執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
381.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
384.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
說運動部不支持專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
384.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
385.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
所以我還要排 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
385.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
387.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
這就是故意 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
387.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
388.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
這就是強排 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
389.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
391.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
那今天我要問社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
392.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
394.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
武力華是強排嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
394.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
396.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
武力華是硬著幹嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
397.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
399.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
我不願意這樣解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
399.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
400.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
我不願意這樣解讀 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
402.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
404.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
因為武力華我看到的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
404.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
406.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
他為了原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
406.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
408.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
他必須要跟原住民講 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
408.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
409.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
我在爭取 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
409.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
我努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
410.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
所以排了詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
希望討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
413.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
414.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
有了討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
414.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
415.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
有了民主 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
415.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
416.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
有了共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
416.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
419.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
就會有新的可能跟方案出來嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
421.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
422.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
所以我今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
423.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
我希望透過這樣子的一個詢答 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
讓社會大眾知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
430.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
本來部會就會有自己的一個態度 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
430.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
432.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
他可能沒有辦法接受 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
433.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
436.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
但是立法委員會盡可能的去 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
436.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
437.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
凝聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
437.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
438.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
441.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
甚至是幫民眾發聲嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
442.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
444.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
所以今天我們也看到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
444.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
446.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
原民會自己是主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
446.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
449.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
但是他覺得現階段可以透過政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
450.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
452.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
來執行不用立專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
452.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
454.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
這不就是跟體育部的態度一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
455.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
457.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
那武力華可以排案 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
457.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
459.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
原住民相關的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
459.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
461.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
我不能排電競草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
461.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
我也希望這些側翼 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
463.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
這些不懂 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
464.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
466.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
硬要批評的 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
466.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
467.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
適可而止 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
468.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
469.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
如果今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
469.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
471.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
原民會認為不需要專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
472.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
474.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
副主委坦白說沒關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
474.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
475.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
但是現行的制度 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
475.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
477.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
我們看到的確有一些問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
478.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
我們的確看到不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
480.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
483.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
希望能夠提出更有願景 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
483.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
484.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
並且 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
484.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
能夠有實際的期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
486.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
487.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
告訴我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
487.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
你的期程能不能達到現階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
490.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
492.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
原住民族能夠同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
492.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
494.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
所以為什麼會有六個委員提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
494.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
495.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
他們認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
495.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
497.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
有必要性 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
497.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
498.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
我剛剛開宗明義就講 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
498.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
500.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
要以專法定制 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
500.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
501.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
但是你們沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
501.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
504.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
你們透過了直接行政的命令也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
504.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
505.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
政策也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
505.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
507.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
來告訴大家我們有2.0喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
507.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
510.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
可是法律就明定要有專法啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
511.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
512.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
所以這些年來 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
512.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
515.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
原住民族現場面臨的問題沒有消失 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
516.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
517.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
族群傳承 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
517.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
520.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
整個族語的傳承有斷層 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
520.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
522.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
曾經式的族語教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
522.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
524.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
需要有制度的支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
525.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
526.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
師資的培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
526.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
527.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
聘任課程 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
527.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
教材等等的制度沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
532.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
行政部門做了2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
533.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
534.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
看起來有做 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
535.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
536.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
但問題還在 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
536.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
538.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
政策的方向沒有整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
539.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
541.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
法制的研議有困難 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
542.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
543.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
我也要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
544.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
545.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
有沒有可能提出一個期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
545.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
547.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
你們什麼時候會提出專法 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
549.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
550.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
部主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
550.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
551.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
各位報告那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
551.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
原住民族教育法訴訟是各級政府是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
555.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
556.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
然後去訂這些東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
556.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
557.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
所以你覺得有些人不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
557.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
不是不是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
558.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
559.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
所以他是要另一法 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
559.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
561.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
所以這是需要就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
561.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
563.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
就必須經過我們一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
564.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
565.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
講的說我們現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
565.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
567.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
從行政上在各個法規上 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
567.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
568.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
我們認為可行的 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
568.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
570.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
我們先促成這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
570.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
571.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
原住民學校的成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
571.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
572.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
成立了以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
572.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
573.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
他在執行的過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
573.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
574.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
我們會發現到什麼問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
574.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
576.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
有什麼東西我們是需要加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
576.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
578.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
未來在法的制定上才會比較完備 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
578.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
如果需要一個法來支撐的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
580.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
581.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
我們就會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
581.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
我還是回到剛剛那一題 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
582.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
583.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
所以我們是階段性的 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
583.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
各級主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
585.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
587.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
我們尊重立法委員的各個立法權 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
587.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
588.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
對嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
588.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
589.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
委員就有立法權 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
589.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
我剛剛就講了 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
590.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
委員有自己的立法權 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
592.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
594.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
部會有自己的行政權 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
594.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
597.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
部會跟各級主管機關是需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
597.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
598.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
有可能有需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
598.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
599.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
有可能不需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
599.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
601.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
可是為什麼六個委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
601.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
602.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
原民委員都提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
602.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
代表有需要嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
604.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
606.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
我們所看到的一個階段 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
606.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
608.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
跟高度不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
608.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
609.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
不代表誰對誰錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
609.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
610.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
但是這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
610.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
612.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
可以凝聚公司可以討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
612.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
613.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
可是我們看到原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
613.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
一族一民族的學校的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
616.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
618.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
期程規劃是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
618.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
620.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
目前和哪些縣市政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
620.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
621.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
有具體的協商 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
621.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
623.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
未來要串接哪些幼兒園 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
623.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
625.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
高等教育完整 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
625.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
627.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
整個原住民族的教育體系 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
628.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
631.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
我們那個報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
631.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
633.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
已經有提到我們跟那個 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
633.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
635.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
高雄市的桃園區的 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
635.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
637.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
新中國小已經有 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
637.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
638.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
就31號就要成立 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
638.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
639.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
這個原住民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
639.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
641.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
我們準備接派 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
641.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
642.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
只有高雄嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
642.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
644.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
目前初步是先設定這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
644.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
那您不覺得這個速度期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
647.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
還有廣度不夠高嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
649.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
650.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
我們是訂了一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
650.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
651.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
五年中長程計畫 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
651.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
652.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
可能會逐步 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
652.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
653.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
會有一些相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
653.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
654.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
如果今天單單 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
654.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
656.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
如果一個高雄就夠的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
656.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
658.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
相信今天原民的委員不會提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
658.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
659.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
他就是希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
659.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
661.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
既然高雄有實際的案例 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
661.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
663.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
為什麼不能擴大到各個 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
663.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
664.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
台中也有啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
664.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
我們也準備這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
665.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
666.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
讓他擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
666.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
台中我們一些原民的議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].start |
667.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
669.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
他們也在吹啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].start |
669.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].end |
670.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].start |
670.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].end |
671.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
所以這些原民的議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].start |
671.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
673.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
也告訴我們有需要性啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].start |
673.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
674.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
所以就算我自己 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].start |
674.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
677.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
我不是原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].start |
677.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
679.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
今天下午的偏鄉教育條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].start |
679.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
681.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].text |
我也有提啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].start |
681.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
682.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
所以那我要另外問嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
682.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
683.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
問題二 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].start |
683.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
684.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
684.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
687.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
我們今天下午要進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
687.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
690.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
偏鄉地區學校教育發展條例的 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
690.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
691.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
足調審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].start |
691.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
692.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
比較遺憾的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].start |
692.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
這部條例自民國106年 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].start |
694.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
695.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
三讀通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].start |
695.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
697.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
實行至今有九年 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].start |
697.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
大家都知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].start |
698.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
699.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
有些問題要改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].start |
699.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
702.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
但行政院卻沒有提出院板 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].start |
702.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
703.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
修法的草案 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].start |
703.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
705.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
這讓我感覺到就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].start |
705.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
這九年來教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].start |
706.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
都沒有系統性的盤整 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
708.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
整個偏鄉學校面臨的問題嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].start |
710.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
711.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
所以我要問 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
711.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
713.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
院板今天有出來了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
713.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].start |
714.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
715.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
但我們有建議的 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
715.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
教育部會有建議的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
718.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
720.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
會針對委員的版本提出建議版 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
720.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
722.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
對嘛那也是一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
722.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
725.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
院板沒有電競法的版本啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
725.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
727.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
但當天有所謂的建議版嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
727.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
我們是認為在沒有修法的狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
730.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
其實偏鄉條例目前 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
732.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
733.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
中了第九年 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
733.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
734.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
但是目前遇到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
734.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
736.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
我們都可以用法規來處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
736.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
737.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
但是委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
737.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
738.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
我們也是尊重委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
738.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
739.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
立法權跟修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
739.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
741.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
如果今天法規可以處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].start |
741.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
744.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
那為什麼我們還在講偏鄉有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
744.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
745.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
我們遇到了這些 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
745.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
748.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
偏遠地區教育學校的發展的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
748.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
749.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
我們遇到了困境 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
749.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
752.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
還是有很多老師沒辦法留不住啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
752.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
754.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
那為什麼這些委員要提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
754.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
如果修法能夠解決 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
756.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
當然修法解決我們尊重嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
758.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
760.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
那如果有些修法還沒有修 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
760.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
761.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
我們透過行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
761.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
762.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
透過法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
762.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
763.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
我們一樣可以來先出 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
763.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
765.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
市長我在這邊再叫您一聲學長 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
765.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
768.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
你也擔任過委員嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
768.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
771.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
你也一定也遇過你提出的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
772.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
774.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
不會不一定有提出對應的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
774.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
775.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
775.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
778.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
但你所看到的或許來自於基層 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
778.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
不會不一定看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
780.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
但不代表不會有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
782.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
783.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
不會有在努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
783.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
785.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
我今天沒有要你承認不會有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
785.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
787.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
但是我們必須要坦白講 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
787.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
789.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
就是需要凝聚共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
789.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
把大家看不到的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
790.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
792.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
各自來做討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
793.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
那現在我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
794.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
795.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
106年立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
795.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
797.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
立法院三讀通過的片源地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
797.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
教育的發展條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
798.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
當時立法的目的就非常清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
800.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
就是要強化整個學校教育的措施 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
802.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
803.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
寬練經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
803.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
805.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
提供人事課程的整個彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
805.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
改善教師福利跟住宿的條件 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
808.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
縮小城鄉教育的落差 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
810.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
813.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
改善整個城鄉教育長期存在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
813.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
失之不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
814.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
這些問題都還存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
816.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
那您認為用整個教育行政命令 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
820.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
821.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
用整個政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
821.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
可以把教師的流動率偏高 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
823.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
偏高把它留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
825.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
827.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
可是我們沒看到有留下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
827.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
828.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
所以九年來我們確實看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
828.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
部分偏鄉學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
829.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
830.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
校舍 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
830.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
831.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
設備 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
831.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
832.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
數位學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
832.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
833.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
交通 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
833.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
住宿 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
834.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
835.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
還有硬體學校所 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
835.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
836.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
836.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
我也是絕對沒有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
838.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
839.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
絕對有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
839.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
840.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
有改善 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
840.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
842.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
但改善沒有到我們要的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
842.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
844.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
我們現在偏鄉的流動率 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
844.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
845.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
已經跟平地是差不多 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
845.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
我必須承認你有在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
847.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
851.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
但是做到沒有符合我們的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
851.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
852.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
這樣可以吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
852.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
853.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
你覺得你有符合你的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
853.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
854.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
當然覺得沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
854.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
855.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
當然那個本來就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
855.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
857.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
任何政策跟執行就可以再進進 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
857.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
所以我們看到 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
858.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
859.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
沒有百分之百的 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
859.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
861.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
整個國民黨籍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
861.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
865.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
我們地方的原住民的一些議員 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
865.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
867.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
民代地方士生 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
867.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
869.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
到現在中央的立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
869.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
871.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
在反應我們就是要來修 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
871.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
873.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
希望能夠更具體的入法 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
873.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
876.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
保障這些所有原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
876.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
878.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
他們應該有的教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
878.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
受教權 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
879.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
還有他們的相關的資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
881.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
883.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
這點我們尊重委員的提案 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
883.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
886.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
我希望今天下午我們能夠更加 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
886.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
888.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
聚焦在整個延攬培育 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
888.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
890.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
留任支持四個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
890.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
893.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
把它能夠透過下午的修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
893.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
895.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
凝聚共識把它給完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
895.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
896.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
896.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
897.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
898.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
謝謝趙偉 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
898.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
900.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
謝謝羅廷偉趙偉的資訊 |