| IVOD_ID |
171040 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/171040 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-5-22,15-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-19T09:56:18+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-19T10:06:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
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| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:56:18 - 10:06:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化、內政委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查
(一) 委員黃仁等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(二) 委員高金素梅等24人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(四) 委員林倩綺等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(五) 委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
(六) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族學校法草案」案。
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王委員美惠 |
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王委員美惠 |
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0 |
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8.76 |
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請兩位市長副主委 |
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8.76 |
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13.2 |
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委員好 |
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13.2 |
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19.4 |
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市長跟副主委我想請問一下 |
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19.4 |
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23.32 |
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我們這個如果以今天這個法案 |
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23.32 |
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27.72 |
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我們要設立原住民族學校 |
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27.96 |
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30.16 |
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兩個部會都認同嗎 |
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30.16 |
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33.16 |
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都也要推動了嗎 |
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33.16 |
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35.08 |
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這個在105年的時候 |
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35.08 |
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37.24 |
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我們有關原住民的政策有做分工 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
37.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
39.16 |
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那我們負責的原教法部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
39.16 |
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41.8 |
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108年已經修法完畢 |
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41.8 |
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44.4 |
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那我們也認同原住民學校法 |
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44.4 |
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45.28 |
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我們也希望那個 |
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45.28 |
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47.92 |
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我們會配合原民會的規劃進程 |
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47.92 |
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49.04 |
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不管是私資培育 |
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49.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
50.52 |
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或者是其他方面的 |
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50.52 |
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52.44 |
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相關的這個原住民族教育 |
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52.44 |
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53.32 |
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知識體系建立 |
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53.32 |
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54.52 |
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我們會配合 |
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54.52 |
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56.12 |
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我知道啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
56.2 |
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58.44 |
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大家也都樂觀其成 |
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58.44 |
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60 |
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不過有幾個問題點 |
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60 |
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62.2 |
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可能要討論一下 |
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62.2 |
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66.88 |
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第一個學校 |
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66.88 |
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69.28 |
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我知道教育部還有原民會 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
69.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
72.64 |
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是要希望以既有的學校 |
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72.64 |
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75.88 |
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那我們學校如果目前盤點 |
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75.88 |
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78.88 |
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學校的數目夠嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
82.88 |
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84.68 |
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我們目前原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
84.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
87.4 |
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我們目前有一個比較具體的是 |
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87.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
90.2 |
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高雄桃園區的一個新中國校 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
90.2 |
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90.84 |
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不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
90.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
92.76 |
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但是整個盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
92.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
94.24 |
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你也都是會朝這個方向 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
94.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
96.2 |
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你們是要17組 |
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96.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
98.36 |
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17組都要 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
98.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
103.4 |
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所以你至少要有17個至20個的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
103.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
107.2 |
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你們目前有做盤點的作業了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
107.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
108.84 |
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至於盤點說哪些學校可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
108.84 |
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112.04 |
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事實上目前是還沒有完整的資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
112.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
116.96 |
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但是應該會有這些教室可以找得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
116.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
119.56 |
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因為現在少子化有很多的都 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
119.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
120.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
120.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
121.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
都有一些猜測的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
121.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
122.6 |
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不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
122.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
124.92 |
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你們的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
124.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
127.16 |
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看你們的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
127.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
129.52 |
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對我們是朝這個公辦名義 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
129.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
131.48 |
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然後是用學校的專題 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
131.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
134.72 |
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不是在既有的學校裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
134.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
136.48 |
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你們是要在既有的學校裡面嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
136.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
139.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
我們跟既有學校合作跟委員報到 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
139.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
140.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
你們是要在既有的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
140.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
143.76 |
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所以原則上會在原鄉地區 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
143.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
145.48 |
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不是獨立的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
145.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
147.08 |
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不是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
147.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
148.52 |
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那不是獨立的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
148.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
150.36 |
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跟現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
150.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
152.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
我們的新的課綱裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
152.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
157.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
其實也本來就有上原住民族的 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
157.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
161.72 |
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基礎的語言的上課了 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
161.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
164.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
那你們未來的新住民學校跟現在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
164.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
166.4 |
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是有多大的不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
166.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
169.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
好這個我請右張惠跟委員說明好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
171.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
174.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
好跟委員報告有關未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
174.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
177.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
原整個民族學校的一個想像 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
177.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
180 |
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其實陳如瑋剛才所提示的沒有錯 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
180 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
183.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
目前也有四十六所的原住民族實驗學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
183.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
185.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
那為什麼要再來設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
185.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
187 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
你講重點就好 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
187 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
不要跟我講理論 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
188.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
189.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
時間沒那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
189.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
192.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
就是說這未來的民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
192.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
195.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
我們希望它是應用我們高級中等學校 |
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195.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
198.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
委託民間辦學的這個實驗學校條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
198.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
200.6 |
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來跟地方政府合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
200.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
204.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
將我們目前在各縣市政府相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
204.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
民族實驗學校我們來把它做轉型 |
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206.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
207.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
就是未來民族學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
207.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
210.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
會是現在實驗學校的2.0版 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
210.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
212.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
對嘛是升級嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
212.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
214.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
好那再來我問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
214.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
那如果我們的原住民的小朋友 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
218.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我們念這個原住民的學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
222 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
224.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
那未來升學的管道的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
224.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
225.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
你們有沒有規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
225.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
227.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
其實它現在目前整個學制 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
227.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
230.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
都跟目前的國民教育階段的學制 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
230.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
完全沒有只是它實施的課程教材 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
233.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
235.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
會跟一般108課綱 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
235.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
238.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
目前的學校不一樣而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
238.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
它的升學管道完全一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
240.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
241.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
對不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
241.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
243.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
那個課綱它裡面有不一樣嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
243.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
246.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
如何跟升學的管道的銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
246.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
其實那只是課程跟教材的設計不同 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
248.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
250.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
原住民學校希望是透過 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
250.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
252.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
他學習自己的母體文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
252.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
254.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
跟他的學科知識做整合 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
254.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
257.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
來提升到學習的成效 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
257.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
258.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
所以它基本上 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
258.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
261.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
它的整個學習的想法精神都是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
261.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
264.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
只是課程教材教法不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
264.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
265.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
教法不一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
265.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
266.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
好對 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
266.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
269.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
那你們的師資都準備好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
269.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
271.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
師資我們同步友在做培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
271.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
272.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
不不不 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
272.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
273.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
就是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
273.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
275.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
培訓是一件事嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
275.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
準備好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
277.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
279.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
這個法案如果通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
279.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
可能你就馬上要做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
280.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
283.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
其實現在段我們的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
283.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
285.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
都是用現職的教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
285.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
286.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
來做我們未來民主學校的 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
286.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
288.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
師資的最主要來源 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
288.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
291.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
那同步未來的民主學校的正式教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
291.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
他同是我們會 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
292.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
讓他來實施整個民主文化的 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
295.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
課程的培訓 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
296.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
298.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
讓他能夠同時擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
298.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
301.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
學科跟文化整合的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
302.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
304.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
聽你們這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
304.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
306.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
是有這個目標 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
306.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
308.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
其實還沒有充分準備好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
308.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
我們現在第一所的民主學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
在8月31日要開辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
311.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
314.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
就是在高雄市的新中國小 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
314.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
316.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
那是示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
317.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
317.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
這不是示範 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
317.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
319.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
這就是第一所推動的 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
319.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
321.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
我剛剛講的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
321.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
你們17組都要設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
323.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
326.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
你就要17個以上 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
326.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
都準備好了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
327.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
我們要逐年來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
329.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
330.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
不是說一次到20幾所 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
330.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
就是說我們逐年 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
332.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
依照跟縣市政府的合作 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
335.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
337.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
你怎麼可以說逐年 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
337.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
340.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
我們的法令如果通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
340.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
342.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
我們要求你馬上辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
342.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
345.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
你現在跟我講逐年的推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
347.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
349.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
法令如果過是要馬上辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
349.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
就算法令通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
350.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
351.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
我們也是沒有辦法說 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
351.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
352.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
一次全部到位 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
352.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
355.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
我們還是要依據整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
355.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
356.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
課程發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
356.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
所以我說你們17個 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
358.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
360.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
根本完全沒有準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
360.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
362.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
我們法令通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
362.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
你跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
364.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
你要逐年推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
364.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
366.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
把我們立法委員當什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
366.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
368.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
把立法院當什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
369.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
這個不是很好笑的一件事情嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
373.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
375 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
376.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
你回答我 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
377.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
378.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
378.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
我還是覺得說 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
379.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
380.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
法律只是取得一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
380.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
383.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
設這個學校的法源的依據 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
383.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
跟設置的期程 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
385.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
387.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
話不是這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
387.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
法律就是讓你 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
388.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
389.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
你要執行就執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
389.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
391.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
你不執行就不執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
391.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
393.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
這很好笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
393.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
394.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
394.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
395.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
我今天不是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
397.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
398.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
你們沒有準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
398.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
你們沒有準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
399.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
本來就是要慢慢準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
402.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
403.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我今天要跟你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
403.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
405.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
探討的問題是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
405.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
如果都還沒有這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
407.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
完全準備好 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
408.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
409.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
如果法令馬上通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
409.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
411.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
你們要怎麼辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
411.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
你們要去想這個問題而已 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
413.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
415.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
其實現階段原民會的立場上 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
415.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
我們認為說 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
417.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
418.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
現在還不需要訂到 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
418.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
420.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
法律的這個位階 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
420.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
420.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
其實都 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
420.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
423.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
透過現行的相關的法律規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
423.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
424.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
我們都可以來推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
424.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
這樣的一個學校的設置 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
425.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
427.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
所以你的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
427.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
430.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
這個法案你不用 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
430.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
431.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
現階段我們還可以再談 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
431.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
432.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
現在也不用通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
432.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
433.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
你們就可以執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
433.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
434.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
我們現在就可以再執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
434.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
435.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
通過之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
435.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
437.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
馬上要全面執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
437.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
438.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
你們做不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
438.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
439.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
440.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
440.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
442.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
我要問你的就是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
442.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
442.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
442.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
444.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
來還有一點請示意 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
444.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
445.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
不好意思 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
447.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
那個張廖市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
448.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
450.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
這個原住民學校這樣推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
450.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
452.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
452.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
454.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
457.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
我們課委會也要推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
457.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
459.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
課餘這個學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
459.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
461.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
那你們教育部 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
461.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
463.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
應付得過來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
463.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
我們有這麼多校舍 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
464.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
465.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
有這麼多師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
465.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們就看那個行政院的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
467.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
469.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
就看政府的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
469.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
471.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
如果政府政策要推動我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
471.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
473.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
當然教育部的立場就是配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
473.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
474.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
做 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
474.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
477.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
師資培育的相關課程的設立 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
477.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
479.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
人才培育要怎麼樣子來銜接 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
479.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
480.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
我們大概就配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
480.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
我們現在原民會的 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
482.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
我們現在是 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
482.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
484.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
那個一般就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
484.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
485.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
實驗學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
485.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
487.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
剛才很多委員問到 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
487.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
實驗學校現在在辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
488.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
491.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
那他怎麼樣去累積這種經驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
491.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
492.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
然後 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
492.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
494.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
各組的族羽的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
494.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
496.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
還有那些 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
496.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
一般學科的 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
497.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
498.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
沒有辦法有師資的 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
498.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
499.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
他用次專長 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
499.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
501.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
來擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
501.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
502.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
來轉任 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
502.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
502.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
502.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
503.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
有很多方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
503.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
504.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
那就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
504.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
506.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
要遵守原民會他們的規劃 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
506.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
507.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
他們也考慮到 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
507.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
509.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
整個現實的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
509.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
509.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
所以在 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
509.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
511.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
期程的規劃上可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
511.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
513.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
會認為說現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
513.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
515.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
直接推動原住民學校 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
515.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
517.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
還不是那麼成熟 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
517.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
518.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
好我知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
518.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
520.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
市長我只是要說 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
520.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
如果這個有推動過 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
522.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
524.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
我相信你們可能要準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
524.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
526.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
未來的課育 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
526.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
527.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
這個也可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
527.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
529.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
師資要培養要什麼的 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
529.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
530.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
532.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
都有可能是未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
532.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
會遇到的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
534.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
535.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
這個可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
535.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
你們也要提早準備 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
537.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
538.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
我們課綱裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
538.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
539.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
其實那個本土語言 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
539.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
540.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
裡面含怪很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
540.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
542.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
原住民族課育 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
542.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
543.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
台語 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
543.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
544.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
都都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
544.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
546.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
現在希拉亞族的師資 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
546.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
547.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
有培育了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
547.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
550.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
還沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
550.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
551.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
所以我的意思是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
551.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
553.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
這個都要很多未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
553.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
如果這樣未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
554.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
有很多事要做 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
555.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
556.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
這種語言文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
556.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
557.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
它本來就需要時間的累積 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
557.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
558.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
558.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
560.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
也要一些時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
560.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
561.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
所以我就是要說這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
563.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
我們跟原民會都有校正會 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
563.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
565.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
再做溝通聯繫 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
565.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
566.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
好啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
566.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
567.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
最主要是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
567.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
568.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
好謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
568.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
570.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
謝謝各位 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
570.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
570.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
570.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
感謝張鴻路委員執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
574.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
577.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
我們這裡有另外一位執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
580.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
582.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
好謝謝主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
582.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
586.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
有請原民會副主委 |