| IVOD_ID |
170941 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170941 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
23 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-12T10:30:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-12T10:41:20+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/628bd009efdbf44b694d7180b89ca5792dd155ae7acf52ac48cc33a1c1d0158ee2e11a24dcffeb0b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王美惠 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:30:28 - 10:41:20 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第23次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長、財政部、金融監督管理委員會、中央銀行就「高房價環境下青年安心成家購屋優惠貸款3.0政策檢討：青年購屋門檻、首購資格認定、年齡限制、申貸年齡與核貸年限總合限制及政策上路對於落實居住正義、健全房市政策與配套措施」進行專題報告並備質詢。二、邀請內政部部長、國土管理署署長就「落實居住正義之困境與對策：十三萬戶社宅興辦檢討、都更社宅容獎制度失靈，暨行政院租賃市場修法三大方向(保障租期、限制漲幅、強化權益)之執行進度」進行專題報告並備質詢。） |
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主席 |
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我們這裡發進去當事長 |
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16 |
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有了喔 |
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19 |
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21 |
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當事長老早 |
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21 |
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23 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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23 |
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27 |
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你那時候當出任 |
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27 |
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31 |
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當內政部的次長 |
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31 |
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33 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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33 |
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35 |
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主要說到現在 |
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35 |
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39 |
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都是要照顧這裡的律師 |
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39 |
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42 |
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還是吃結婚的 |
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42 |
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47 |
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因為現在的地和房子都很好 |
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47 |
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50 |
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是非常貴又貴 |
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50 |
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53 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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53 |
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55 |
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我才會做 |
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55 |
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59 |
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在嘉義來台北做立法委員 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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61 |
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65 |
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嘉義市都沒有社會主宰 |
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68 |
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我覺得感謝你們的單位 |
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68 |
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70 |
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給嘉義市機會 |
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70 |
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73 |
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因為剛才我們都在說 |
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73 |
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75 |
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結果在台南問 |
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75 |
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77 |
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台南又不需要 |
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78 |
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說實在 |
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78 |
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79 |
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當事長 |
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79 |
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83 |
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在我的台南來看的時候 |
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85 |
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是非常有需要 |
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85 |
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87 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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87 |
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90 |
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我進出三位 |
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92 |
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一個友中 |
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一個保愛 |
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95 |
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一個安寮 |
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97 |
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在這個過程當中 |
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102 |
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我們已經友中十幾個 |
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102 |
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104 |
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開始要擔保了 |
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104 |
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107 |
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當事長你怎麼可以 |
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107 |
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就這個機會 |
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109 |
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112 |
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來說要怎麼才有辦法 |
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112 |
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114 |
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去申請社會主宰 |
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114 |
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117 |
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社會主宰來賓 |
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117 |
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120 |
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是我們全部要賣 |
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120 |
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122 |
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是用作的 |
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122 |
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125 |
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就是在這裡的弱勢也好 |
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125 |
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127 |
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在這裡的年輕人也好 |
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127 |
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131 |
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希望有一個地方讓他們採訪 |
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131 |
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133 |
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好 感謝你們 |
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133 |
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134 |
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我們友中老師 |
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134 |
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136 |
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應該是預計 |
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136 |
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139 |
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我們大概十月會公告招租 |
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139 |
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140 |
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十月 |
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140 |
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143 |
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今年十月會公告招租 |
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143 |
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145 |
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公告之後 |
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145 |
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148 |
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十天會開始接受申請 |
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148 |
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150 |
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十天給大家了解 |
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150 |
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152 |
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再十天開始申請 |
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152 |
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154 |
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申請的時間有一個月 |
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154 |
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156 |
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申請的地方 |
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156 |
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158 |
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我們到時候會跟管理政府 |
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158 |
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161 |
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管理政府那裡有一個服務店 |
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161 |
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163 |
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可以在那裡申請 |
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163 |
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165 |
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也可以透過透過網路 |
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165 |
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167 |
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因為我們主要透過網路 |
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167 |
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169 |
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把你的資料寫下來 |
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169 |
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170 |
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寫出來 |
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170 |
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172 |
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就完成了你的申請 |
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172 |
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175 |
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接下來我們就要用兩三個月時間 |
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175 |
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177 |
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來審查所有來申請的人 |
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177 |
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180 |
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他的資格是哪一個級別 |
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180 |
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184 |
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有沒有符合申請的資格 |
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184 |
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188 |
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審查完之後就會進入到抽籤 |
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188 |
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190 |
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抽籤我們會公開 |
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190 |
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193 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
當時你發 直接請教一下 |
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193 |
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196 |
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抽籤的時候可以做拼嗎 |
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196 |
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198 |
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不可能 |
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198 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
201 |
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都會第三公正單位來監督我們的 |
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201 |
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203 |
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現在很害 |
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203 |
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205 |
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說如果叫大聲的去 |
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205 |
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208 |
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還不用去抽 |
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208 |
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210 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我覺得這個而已 |
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210 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
213 |
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是對我們中央的認真打拼 |
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213 |
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215 |
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傷害很大 |
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215 |
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216 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
這個我們再來澄清 |
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216 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
218 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
我們再盡快來澄清 |
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218 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
219 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
跟我們報告 |
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219 |
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224 |
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因為房客要付的租金 |
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224 |
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225 |
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我們都有一定的標準 |
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225 |
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226 |
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我們的標準就是 |
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226 |
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228 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
因為我們蓋的是新房子 |
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228 |
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230 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
但是我們是用 |
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230 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
234 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
十年屋齡的房子來估市場租金 |
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234 |
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236 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
然後它會比較低 |
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236 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
然後這樣那個租金 |
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238 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
241 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
依照房客的所得標準 |
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241 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
245 |
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會有打八折 打七折 和打五折 |
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245 |
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246 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
三總折扣 |
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246 |
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248 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
所以大家付的租金 |
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248 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
250 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
其實跟房客來比 |
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250 |
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253 |
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一定是算很多 |
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253 |
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257 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
因為我們在這裡本身要跟你討論的 |
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257 |
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260 |
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現在未來的就是抽 |
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260 |
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262 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
它有辦法去那裡 |
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262 |
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266 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
第二點就是它的租金 |
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266 |
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269 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
在咖哩市這個地方 |
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269 |
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272 |
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你要用租金和台北幣 |
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272 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
274 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
和客戶化的租金 |
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274 |
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277 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
這對咖哩市人 |
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277 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
278 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
我們是用在地的租金 |
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278 |
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279 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
不是台北的租金 |
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279 |
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282 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
那時候就是有人說這個 |
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282 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
287 |
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你要知道有這個問題的存在 |
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287 |
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289 |
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所以你可以 |
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289 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
293 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
地方的管理和租金 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
293 |
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297 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
說實在 如果太貴 |
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297 |
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300 |
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地方的弱勢也沒有資料 |
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300 |
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301 |
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是 |
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301 |
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304 |
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所以在這裡的過程當中 |
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304 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我要當市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
306 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
307 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
請問說 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
307 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
311 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
我們的安寮社會住宅 |
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311 |
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314 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
到現在有什麼動作嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
314 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
到現在去到怎樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
在本身我所了解的 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
一定是滿十倍的 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
322 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
我告訴你這個案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
330 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
現在就是企圖的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
330 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
還有在處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
331 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
不過現在已經跟國務處也到三個月 |
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334 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
335 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
現在已經跟國務處也到三個月 |
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335 |
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338 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
應該是慢慢的進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
現在是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
現在沒有進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
一樣說在那裡用保範蓋 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
我覺得不管是誰來 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
349 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
352 |
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用去的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
355 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
我們的中央要學會 |
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355 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
357 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
要怎麼去 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
357 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
租宿宅可以放那裡的土 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
到現在沒有資源 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
363 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
我真的無法想像 |
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365 |
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368 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
得來不易的社會住宅 |
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368 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
結果放在那裡的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
我知道東西也貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
373 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
376 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
我們的工資也難購 |
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376 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
377 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
這都是廢物 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
377 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
不過在這個過程當中 |
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380 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
我們要趕緊 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
跟他們去怎樣找 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
384 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
可以放在那裡的土 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
387 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
387 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
389 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
我覺得都沒有用 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
389 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
如果放在那裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
還要解決的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
393 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
這樣就很慘了 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
現在因為都有通案處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
因為專門台灣很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
所以都有一家一家 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
現在已經比之前好很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
這家應該回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
趕快來 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
積極的來處理這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
因為我覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
不管東地 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
410 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我相信我們沒有什麼分寸 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
412 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
這是我們的年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
還是弱勢的 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
我們的領略範圍可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
再來照顧 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
不過實在的 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我看要去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
423 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
有種在應對路還是一圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
在破壞的路兩段還是一圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
在高雄路拆一圈 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
432 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
我們看起來很高興 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
但是到目前為止 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
不知道當時要完成 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
441 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我們現在回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
趕快把這個處理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
444 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
再跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
446 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
你算趕快回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
還可以處理好嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
450 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
開會開完才可以回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
現在不能回去 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
對啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
你說我們開會之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
你要回去趕快去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
因為我知道這個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
一定存在很久了 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
所以當時本事要跟你說的就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
我們的家裔 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
我們有的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
472 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
就不會五百戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
472 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
家裔養三個娘 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
總共要五百戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
478 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
因為要五百戶 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
480 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
不是應用五百戶的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
483 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
是應用五百戶裡面的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
這是非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
所以當時本事要跟你說 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
如果我們有盤點 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
496 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
有種子的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
在日升階也有一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
像你們剛才 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
我們的署長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
503 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
跟地方如果買英國的配合 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
507 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
是這樣的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
509 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
來 董事長 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
如果地方的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
513 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
他想要去 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
513 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
要怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
515 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
516 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
這也是要來政府給我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
因為我們國家主流中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
就是政府給我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
就一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
我們就下去處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
523 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
只要說政府不支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
我們就絕對會做 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
來 這樣 署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
現在董事長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
你們如果支持他就會做了 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
在這個過程當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
說實在 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
沒有家人很感慨 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
去做的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
當時 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
處處要來我們管理也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
所以我們中央的美意 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
551 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
跟地方的政府的協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
551 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
我們應該要把這個牌子 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
做大 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
555 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
讓大家知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
有機會我們會去抽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
在這個時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
你說我們都問地方的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
跟我們在請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
跟市區地方的政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
提供什麼意見 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
575 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
這三個委員會還有想去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
575 |
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577 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
來 回答一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
如果我們認真打拚 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
我會下去 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
583 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
因為沒有家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
做家人 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
真的很辛苦 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
各位報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
地方都會提出需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
當然我自己也會去判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
593 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
我知道你已經說了 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
595 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
地方的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
我現在問自己去 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
自己去其實這方面 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
我也會去跟他們討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
605 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
看他們的需求 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
605 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
我們有一個專業的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
607 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
會給他們建議 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我也會評估地點 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
這部分我們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
611 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
613 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
你們會來協助 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
613 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
615 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
因為我覺得地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
615 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
你也要協助他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
因為實在在地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
政府的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
他找地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
很好找 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
我們也知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
八成的需求是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
627 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
所以署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
629 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
在本社交流探討 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
這裡的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
我們也跟旅行社會住宅也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
635 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
婚姻宅也好 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
會當高端 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
好好學習 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
年輕人 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
跟要結婚的人 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
有一個父母也有一個女兒 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
好 |