| IVOD_ID |
170915 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170915 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-11 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-11T17:21:35+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-11T17:32:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a2ba9baf79443361f512ee036adf5d0d22f260bc4224891a7a1313230404a1f160397b764e3c89ef5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李昆澤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:21:35 - 17:32:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第2次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為監察院第六屆監察委員任期於115年7月31日屆滿。茲依據憲法增修條文第7條第2項、監察院組織法第3條之1及監察院國家人權委員會組織法第3條規定，提名陳永興、王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬、陳景峻、彭紹瑾、廖婉汝、葉宜津、林麗瑩、侯廷昌、李光章、林文程、賴鼎銘、邱駿彥、徐光蓉、邱泰源、賴振昌、莊勝榮、吳梓生、王志誠、Iban Nokan、謝政達、林佳範、許有為、趙卿惠29位為監察院第七屆監察委員，並以陳永興為院長兼任監察院國家人權委員會主任委員、王榮璋為副院長；王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬7位適用監察院組織法第3條之1第1項第7款資格，咨請同意案（本案經本院第11屆第5會期第15次會議決定，有關總統提名廖婉汝、謝政達為第七屆監察委員部分，毋庸處理，其餘交全院委員會審查）。） |
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好 謝謝主席 請一下張貝提名人 |
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請張貝提名人備選 |
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張貝提名人您好 |
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36.3 |
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關於你過去長期在勞工運動 爭取勞工的權利 |
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36.3 |
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42.3 |
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站在第一線所付出的努力 其實大家印象都非常的深刻 |
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42.3 |
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那我們就直接要進入相關的主題 |
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我要來請教張貝提名人 |
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54.3 |
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有關於勞工的權利 不管是勞保 勞退 |
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54.3 |
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58.3 |
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或是相關的勞動檢查 以及相關的職業災害 |
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不管是相關的預防 或是重建 |
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都是勞工非常關心的議題 |
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64.3 |
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67.3 |
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那我首先要請教你 我們的勞動檢查 |
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67.3 |
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71.3 |
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除了勞動部的職安署是它的相關職權之外 |
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71.3 |
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77.3 |
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中央也委託職轄市 或者是經濟部 或者是國科會 |
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77.3 |
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80.3 |
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或是其他的代檢機構 |
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80.3 |
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84.3 |
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相關的勞動檢查相關的實際的狀況 |
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84.3 |
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87.3 |
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你認為有什麼問題嗎 |
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87.3 |
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90.3 |
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是的 謝謝委員的質詢 |
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90.3 |
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95.3 |
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勞動檢查確實是保障或是說落實 |
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95.3 |
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101.3 |
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我們的勞工法令或是勞工人權保障的最後一道防線 |
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101.3 |
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107.3 |
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所以世界上各國對於勞動檢查權的行使 |
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107.3 |
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109.3 |
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都是非常慎重的 |
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109.3 |
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112.3 |
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因為大家可以可想而知 勞檢機構 |
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112.3 |
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117.3 |
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事實上它可以直接進入一般的私人企業 |
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117.3 |
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120.3 |
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進去要求進行勞動檢查 |
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125.3 |
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我覺得這個類似一種準司法權 |
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125.3 |
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127.3 |
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所以依照國際公約 |
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132.3 |
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國際公約勞動檢查基本上都是隸屬於中央政府機構的 |
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132.3 |
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135.3 |
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像我們鄰近的日本的勞動檢查權 |
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135.3 |
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140.3 |
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完全由他們中央的勞檢署在執行 |
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140.3 |
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142.3 |
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然後各地方分署 |
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142.3 |
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144.3 |
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它是完全由中央的 |
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147.3 |
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但是台灣因為歷史上的特別因素 |
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147.3 |
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150.3 |
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我們台灣依照勞動檢查法 |
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150.3 |
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155.3 |
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我們是中央授權給目前的職轄市 |
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155.3 |
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158.3 |
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我們也有一些像經濟部、國科會 |
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158.3 |
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161.3 |
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甚至代檢機構這樣子的方式 |
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161.3 |
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162.3 |
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等於是授權出去 |
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162.3 |
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164.3 |
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那授權出去以後呢 |
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164.3 |
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168.3 |
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我覺得這會產生一個很大的問題 |
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168.3 |
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171.3 |
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就是說這些授權出去的單位 |
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171.3 |
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175.3 |
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到底有沒有秉公來處理這些勞動檢查 |
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175.3 |
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178.3 |
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會不會有濫用的問題 |
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178.3 |
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183.3 |
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我知道應該前幾天才發生 |
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183.3 |
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185.3 |
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一些歷史的勞檢員的相關事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
185.3 |
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188.3 |
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後來這些勞檢員被截職 |
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188.3 |
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191.3 |
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所以從這邊可以看出來就是說 |
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191.3 |
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194.3 |
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中央它把勞檢權授權出去 |
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194.3 |
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196.3 |
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還有就是像經濟部、國科會 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
196.3 |
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198.3 |
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到底有沒有好好落實 |
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198.3 |
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203.3 |
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我覺得勞動部在授權出去以後 |
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203.3 |
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205.3 |
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有沒有事後的考核追蹤 |
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205.3 |
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209.3 |
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然後讓這個授權出去的單位 |
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209.3 |
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211.3 |
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有沒有好好落實 |
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211.3 |
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212.3 |
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這個勞動檢查 |
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212.3 |
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216.3 |
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我覺得這是一個必須要處理 |
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216.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
219.3 |
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而且也是過去勞動部比較 |
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219.3 |
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223.3 |
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缺乏關注的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
223.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
225.3 |
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這相關的勞動檢查 |
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225.3 |
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227.3 |
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對於勞工基本安全的保障 |
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227.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
230.3 |
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是一個最重要的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
230.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
232.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
在目前的實行之上 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
232.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
236.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
還有很多的面向必須要給予落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
236.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
238.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
以及完全的完善 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
238.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
242.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
另外對於我們之前立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
242.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
246.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
通過的勞工職業災害及保險保護法 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
246.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
248.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
根據這樣一個法令 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
248.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
251.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
我們針對勞工的職業災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
251.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
253.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
有基本的規範跟保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
253.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
257.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
也成立了職業災害的相關的 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
257.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
預防及重建中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
260.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
它當然也包含職災的預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
也包含職業的重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
266.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
以及受傷之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
268.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
271.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
職災之後的社會重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
271.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
那你認為在目前職災的 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
274.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
276.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
預防及重建中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
276.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
它的功能有沒有落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
278.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
你的觀察呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
279.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
282.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
是的,災保法立法通過以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
282.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
我覺得一個非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
284.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
287.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
就是成立重建中心這個法人 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
287.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
289.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
因為它是用行政法人處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
289.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
所以它的人事的運用就比較彈性 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
292.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
295.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
不受公務機關的限制 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
295.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
298.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
我覺得這是一個比較進步彈性的做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
298.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
302.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
但是從災保法實施以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
302.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
304.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
到現在這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
304.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
306.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
預防及重建中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
306.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
311.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
到底有沒有跟這個災保做密切的扣合 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
311.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
315.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
然後對於職災的勞工 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
315.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
317.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
他的重返職場 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
317.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
我覺得職業災害發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
319.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
323.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
其實最重要的並不是所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
323.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
325.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
所謂的精神上的補償 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
325.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
327.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
我覺得最重要就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
327.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
331.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
怎麼樣讓他這個職業的重建 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
331.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
333.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
職業能力的重建、復建 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
333.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
然後再重返職場 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
335.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
337.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
然後另外呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
337.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
在這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
339.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
341.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
因為了解這個職災發生的原因以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
341.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
343.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
是不是可以協助企業來預防 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
343.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
345.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
那個職災的再度發生 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
345.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
347.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
我覺得這個都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
347.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
349.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
當時災保法立法通過以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
349.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
353.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
負於這個法人的一個重要的任務 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
353.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
355.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
那我覺得在這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
355.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
357.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
到底有沒有辦法落實 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
357.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
359.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
有沒有落實這個東西 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
359.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
361.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
我想是大家都非常關心的 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
361.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
363.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
如果未來 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
363.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
366.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
擔任這個監察委員跟人權委員的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
366.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
368.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
一定會針對他的功能 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
368.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
370.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
有沒有落實呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
370.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
372.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
來更追蹤 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
372.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
374.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
被提名人 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
374.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
376.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
過去我們台灣的社會大眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
376.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
378.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
關心的勞工議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
378.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
380.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
不管是勞保、勞退 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
380.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
382.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
或是職業災害 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
382.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
384.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
或是相關的這樣的一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
384.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
386.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
勞工權利的種種議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
386.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
388.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
388.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
390.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
強迫勞動的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
390.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
393.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
是大家比較不熟悉的一個面向 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
393.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
395.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
那根據國際勞工組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
395.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
398.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
就是針對強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
398.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
400.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
他的定義就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
400.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
402.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
你在非自願的狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
402.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
406.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
以及受到懲罰的威脅狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
406.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
408.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
所實施的服務 |
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408.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
409.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
或者是工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
409.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
411.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
都是屬於強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
411.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
414.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
台灣在過去也碰到強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
414.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
417.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
受到國際注意的這樣一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
417.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
418.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
去年九月 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
418.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
420.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
我們有一個自行車廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
420.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
422.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
他的自行車跟他的零配件 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
422.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
424.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
就因為涉及 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
424.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
428.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
相關的強迫勞動的範圍 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
428.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
430.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
所以受到美國海關 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
430.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
433.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
受到海關的扣留 |
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433.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
另外遠洋漁業也是一個問題 |
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436.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
439.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
我們在2020年2022年2024年 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
439.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
三次被美國勞動部 |
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442.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
445.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
列為強迫勞動的名單 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
445.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
447.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
這個強迫勞動 |
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447.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
449.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
也關係到人權 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
449.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
451.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
也關係到我們勞工的 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
451.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
453.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
這樣的一個勞工權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
453.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
457.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
以及對外貿易的一個重要的基礎 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
457.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
460.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
那針對我們的強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
460.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
461.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
這樣的一個議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
461.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
463.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
要如何跟國際接軌 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
463.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
465.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
我不曉得被提名人了不了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
465.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
467.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
是的我覺得這是一個當前 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
467.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
469.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
非常重要的議題 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
469.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
471.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
因為上個月我們才 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
471.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
474.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
美國的301強迫勞動的調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
474.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
479.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
那我們因為針對強迫勞動 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
479.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
481.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
做了一些比較好的承諾 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
481.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
483.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
強迫勞動盡只做比較好 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
483.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
485.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
所以我們得到10%不疊加 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
485.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
487.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
這樣事實上比其他國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
487.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
489.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
優惠的一個關稅待遇 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
489.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
不過我這邊要注意就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
491.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
那台灣既然承諾了 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
493.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
這些強迫勞動盡只 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
495.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
未來勢必要去遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
497.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
特別是第一個我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
499.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
不能進口使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
501.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
503.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
有強迫勞動的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
503.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
另外就是說我們台灣的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
505.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
507.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
不能以強迫勞動的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
507.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
511.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
來去生產這個製造商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
511.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
513.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
我覺得這個是一個非常重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
513.3 |
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515.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
那剛剛委員提到的 |
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515.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
517.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
一個自行車的大廠 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
517.3 |
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519.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
不過我覺得這是一個 |
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519.3 |
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521.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
我們的法制面 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
521.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
523.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
跟國際的強迫勞動標準 |
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523.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
525.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
有非常大的落差 |
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525.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
527.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
造成這家廠商 |
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527.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
529.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
他引進移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
529.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
531.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
事實上完全都是在合法的狀態之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
531.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
533.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
而且合法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
533.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
535.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
使用這些移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
535.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
537.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
但是也一樣被 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
537.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
539.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
國外被認定是 |
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539.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
541.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
強迫勞動所以我覺得 |
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541.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
543.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
這個就會變成就是說 |
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543.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
545.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
我們既有的這個勞基法 |
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545.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
547.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
有關強迫勞動只有第五條的規定 |
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547.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
549.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
那第五條的這個規定 |
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549.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
事實上是1984年 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
勞基法立法的時候的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
553.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
555.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
那大家知道當時1984年 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
555.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
台灣還沒有引進半個外籍移工 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
557.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
559.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
那台灣現在外籍移工這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
559.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
561.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
而且呢在國外整個 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
561.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
563.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
國際上國際貿易 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
563.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
565.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
對強迫勞動的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
565.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
567.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
不管是歐盟還是美國 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
567.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
569.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
都已經高度重視之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
569.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
571.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
我認為這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
571.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
我覺得我們應該 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
573.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
575.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
在國內的法治上 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
575.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
就應該做趕快的 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
579.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
一個修正 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
579.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
581.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
才不會讓我們台灣的企業 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
581.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
事實上他在 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
583.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
585.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
他會宣稱說完全 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
585.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
587.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
合法的守法的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
587.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
589.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
我還是受到國際貿易的制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
589.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
591.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
特別是這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
591.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
593.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
剛才委員說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
593.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
595.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
聯合國在2014年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
595.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
597.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
通過有關11項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
597.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
599.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
這個法律的制裁 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
599.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
601.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
在2014年的時候通過有關11項的 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
601.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
603.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
強迫勞動的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
603.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
605.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
那我們是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
605.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
607.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
這一個相關的法令要參考 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
607.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
609.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
這個11項的指標 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
609.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
611.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
然後讓這一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
611.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
613.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
我們的企業能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
613.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
615.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
有比較多的法尊 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
615.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
617.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
讓他們了解這個國際趨勢 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
617.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
619.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
我覺得這是一個當務之急 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
619.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
621.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
好那也希望被提名 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
621.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
623.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
在未來如果有擔任 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
623.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
625.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
監委或是人權委員的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
625.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
627.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
針對勞工的相關權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
627.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
629.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
不管是勞保勞退 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
629.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
631.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
以及相關的權益必須要全力的 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
631.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
633.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
給予支持跟推動 |