| IVOD_ID |
170898 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170898 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-11 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-11T11:41:27+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-11T11:53:15+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a2ba9baf7944336153314dfe729ae28522f260bc4224891a0b49f891c216d8206eb0d0d8684cdce65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:41:27 - 11:53:15 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第2次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為監察院第六屆監察委員任期於115年7月31日屆滿。茲依據憲法增修條文第7條第2項、監察院組織法第3條之1及監察院國家人權委員會組織法第3條規定，提名陳永興、王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬、陳景峻、彭紹瑾、廖婉汝、葉宜津、林麗瑩、侯廷昌、李光章、林文程、賴鼎銘、邱駿彥、徐光蓉、邱泰源、賴振昌、莊勝榮、吳梓生、王志誠、Iban Nokan、謝政達、林佳範、許有為、趙卿惠29位為監察院第七屆監察委員，並以陳永興為院長兼任監察院國家人權委員會主任委員、王榮璋為副院長；王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬7位適用監察院組織法第3條之1第1項第7款資格，咨請同意案（本案經本院第11屆第5會期第15次會議決定，有關總統提名廖婉汝、謝政達為第七屆監察委員部分，毋庸處理，其餘交全院委員會審查）。） |
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0 |
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4.16 |
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准备后 请思路总裁向副院长提名 |
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4.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
6.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
谢谢主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
6.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
8.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
谢谢我们的副院长、背景提名人 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
8.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
10.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
王融璋委员 好久不见 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
10.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
11.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
李总理好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
11.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
14.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
今天时间有限只有十分钟 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
14.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
16.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
我想我直接破题 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
16.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
19.48 |
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不管立法院、行政院、县政机关 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
19.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
21.76 |
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都要负宪法的忠诚义务 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
21.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
23.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
所以监察院退无可退 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
23.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
26.82 |
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这是宪法赋予监察院的责任 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
26.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
29.82 |
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這是憲法賦予監察院的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
29.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
32.82 |
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同樣的面對立法院的違憲亂政 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
32.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
35.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
監察院除了要自救之外 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
35.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
37.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
不是只有自救 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
37.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
39.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
其實監察院是要救國 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
39.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
42.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
因為我們負有憲法忠誠的義務 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
42.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
43.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
我們看這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
43.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
46.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
所以所有的憲政機關平等相違 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
46.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
48.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
雖然監委的人事同意權 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
48.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
50.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
立法院行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
50.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
54.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
雖然監察院的預算是立法院監督審查 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
54.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
58.82 |
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但是並不代表立法院比較大 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
58.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
60.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
國會優位並不存在 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
60.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
62.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
這是大法官一再的揭示 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
62.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
64.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
所以我們很希望 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
64.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
66.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
未來立法院跟監察院 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
66.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
68.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
跟其他的憲政機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
68.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
70.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
真的大家平起平坐 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
70.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
72.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
互相尊重 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
72.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
73.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
73.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
76.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
我今天會聚焦在財政紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
76.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
78.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
憲法第70條 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
78.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
80.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
預算法第91條 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
80.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
82.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
才化法38-1條 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
82.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
86.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
以及財政紀律法第5條第7條 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
86.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
89.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
都是現在各級政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
89.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
91.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
包括行政院跟立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
91.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
94.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
都要看守行政的 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
94.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
96.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
財政紀律的基本原則 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
96.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
97.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
不論誰執政 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
97.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
99.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
不論藍綠誰當家 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
99.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
101.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
都要核現守法 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
101.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
104.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
而這當中的財政紀律法 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
104.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
107.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
就是當時您擔任立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
107.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
您主題 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
108.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
您也在財政委員會發揮 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
110.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
您的資深跟專業的影響力 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
112.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
完成了財政紀律法的修訂 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
115.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
118.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
也就是我們需要 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
118.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
不管我強調喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
119.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
不是只規範立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
121.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
他也規範行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
123.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
126.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
你要新增任何政府支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
126.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
你要找出裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
129.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
而且現在有財政紀律法的規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
133.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
137.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
不應當增訂固定的經費額度 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
137.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
139.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
或是比例保障 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
139.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
141.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
因為你要增加2% |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
141.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
142.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
國防增加2% |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
142.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
143.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
教育要增加3% |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
143.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
145.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
社福要增加5% |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
145.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
148.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
對於這種固定經費跟比例 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
148.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
151.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
您當時都努力的入法了 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
151.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
154.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
各級機關都要來遵守 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
154.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
156.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
156.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
160.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
所以說這就是現在2019年到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
160.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
163.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
朝野共同之時之下的財政紀律法 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
163.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
165.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
我再一次強調 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
165.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
167.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
不論誰執政都要守法 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
167.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
169.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
而且他不只規範 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
169.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
172.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
立法院不能片面修法增加政府支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
172.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
174.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
他包括也要求行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
174.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
176.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
你要增加政府的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
176.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
179.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
你也要有必要的稅事評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
179.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
181.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
你也要有裁員 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
181.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
185.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
這才是一套完整可行的財政紀律的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
185.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
187.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
我謝謝您當初在立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
187.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
189.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
我看到您的努力 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
189.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
190.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
但是呢下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
190.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
193.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
現在的困境就是立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
193.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
不做好立法院的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
195.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
198.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
立法院搶當行政院 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
198.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
200.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
對於預算權的強害 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
200.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
202.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
立法院有三害 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
202.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
第一害 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
207.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
就是嚴當二砍總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
207.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
212.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
造成民生癱瘓造成施政不順 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
212.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
213.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
第二害 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
213.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
217.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
立法委員片面的不斷去狂提肉桶法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
217.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
220.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
錢坑法案沒有裁員的評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
220.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
支出腐爛立委大家都來當凱子 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
223.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
226.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
康國家之凱這是第二害 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
226.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
預算權強害的第三害 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
228.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
231.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
就是惡修了才華法 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
231.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
236.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
把中央的合理裁員全部都搬到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
236.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
但沒有事權的統一 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
239.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
242.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
這是現在我們面對的困境下頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
242.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
245.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
所以第一害就是總預算 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
245.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
審一一四年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
247.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
250.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
史上砍最多凍結最嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
250.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
252.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
審查過程最混亂 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
252.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
257.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
而現在審查今年的預算史上脫罪久 |
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很遺憾立法院面對總預算案 |
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不是基於專業 |
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不是基於理性 |
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而只是基於政治報復跟癱瘓執政 |
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我等下會讓你統合回覆這是第一害 |
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第二害就是無限多的錢坑法案 |
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我就跳過這裡是一次性的支出 |
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無法計算經費支出都是腐爛的修法 |
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無限多的錢坑肉桶法案 |
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讓我們的財政陷入了無底洞的困境 |
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最新的就是未來帳戶條例 |
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在野黨為了割到尾 |
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沒有明定裁員還要跟中央搶功勞 |
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康國家之凱 |
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這個火速通過的未來帳戶 |
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每年會增加政府支出1900多億 |
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比行政院衡量推出的1800億還要多 |
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這就是立法委員片面增加政府支出 |
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沒有評估裁員 |
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沒有評估預算之間的合理分配 |
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下一頁 |
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325.82 |
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唯一我教育文化委員會 |
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光這一個會期 |
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331.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
藍白委員靜香的提了ABCDE |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
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這麼多個教育法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
336.82 |
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凡事要加碼 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
338.82 |
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凡事都免費 |
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341.82 |
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從營養午餐到學費減免 |
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凡事都免費 |
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| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
347.82 |
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立委當凱子可是要中央全買單 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
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350.82 |
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如果以我這個會期教育文化委員會 |
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351.82 |
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再也胡亂加碼 |
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一年至少又增加國家1638億的支出 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
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所以這是錢坑法案 |
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跟總預算的困境 |
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362.82 |
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再下一頁 |
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362.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
363.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
再下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
365.82 |
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第三害就是裁劃法 |
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裁劃法下一頁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
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一年搬走中央4165億 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
371.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
372.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
沒有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
374.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
錢下放地方中央也在做 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
可是分配不正義 |
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| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
378.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
事權不同意 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
380.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
財政沒有紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
383.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
相關法規的配套也沒有提出 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
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387.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
這些在野黨的委員只精算政治的紅利 |
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並不精算財政的紀律 |
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所以我要請您統合回答 |
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第一個也是我的要求 |
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| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
下一頁 |
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| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
398.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
審計部要獨立行使審計權 |
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398.82 |
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402.82 |
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對於裁劃法這種胡亂的中央的錢 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
大量的灌到地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
地方大撒幣卻沒有財政的紀律 |
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| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
以前監察院審計部就有很多的糾正案 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
應當嚴格來執行 |
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否則它就是一個大黑洞 |
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它就是一個無底洞 |
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所以因為財政是您的專業 |
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| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
423.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
財政紀律法是您當初用心推動 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
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我也很遺憾剛剛在場的賴世寶委員 |
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他當時也是一起力推的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
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只是換了位子換了腦袋的人 |
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432.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
應當不是王榮章 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
432.82 |
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435.82 |
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您恐怕就是現在在野黨的委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
435.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
437.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
如賴世寶們 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
438.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
所以說請您總和回答 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
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就財政紀律的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
443.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
我剛剛說的立法院的三害 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
443.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
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都會造成執政的不順暢 |
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446.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
448.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
財政的不紀律 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
448.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
451.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
您要怎麼樣擔任副院長之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
451.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
456.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
協助導政協助中央的地方的財政 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
456.82 |
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458.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
都能夠撥亂反正呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
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460.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
來您請快速回答 |
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| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
謝謝吳委員 |
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| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
466.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
我想您剛剛說明的這個情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
466.82 |
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469.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
然後我想作為財政紀律法 |
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469.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
471.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
在沒有行政院版本之下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
然後在各位委員的支持之下 |
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| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
476.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
通過的財政紀律法 |
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476.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
481.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
但是目前執行的情況是這樣子的情況 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
481.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
483.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
我想作為提案人 |
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483.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
485.82 |
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我想不作為監察委員 |
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485.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
488.82 |
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或者是提名人的立場 |
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| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
492.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
我個人只有無限的遺憾 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
492.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
494.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
基於憲政分立的情況 |
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| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
498.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
尤其監察員不及於立法委員的這個部分 |
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| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
502.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
我不能夠做出更詳細的評論 |
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502.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
504.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
但是我覺得是 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
504.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
508.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
我想就現在的這樣子的一個情況 |
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510.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
跟結果來講的話 |
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510.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
512.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
我想就是說 |
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517.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
審計部事實上也是在監察院裡面的獨立機關 |
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| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
520.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
我們會尊重他的獨立審計的情況 |
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520.82 |
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522.82 |
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但是要強化支持 |
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| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
528.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
就是說我們會強力支持他們獨立審計相關的權利 |
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528.82 |
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530.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
對於執行的就是說結果 |
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530.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
533.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
執行的就是說績效的這一個部分 |
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533.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
537.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
我想站在未來如果有機會的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
537.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
538.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
擔任副院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
538.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
我一定會相助院長 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
539.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
在這一個部分的話 |
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541.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
強力支持審計的這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
543.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
545.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
能夠發揮他的功能和效果 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
545.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
548.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
其實不只審計權來監督預算執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
548.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
監察院也可以就我們監督各級政府 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
551.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
553.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
如果在執行的這個部分 |
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553.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
555.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
來針對預算不紀律的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
555.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
557.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
財政不紀律可以動用 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
557.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
為所當為 |
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559.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
562.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
我最後要問我回到倒數下一頁 |
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562.82 |
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563.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
下一頁 |
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563.82 |
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564.82 |
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下一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
564.82 |
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| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
監察權有彈劾權 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
566.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
568.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
糾舉權跟糾正權 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
568.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
573.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
雖然不能夠對於民意選出的立委來行使職權 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
573.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
576.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
但是對於立法院的文官 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
576.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
579.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
是可以行使相關的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
579.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
這兩年多的立法院的違憲亂政 |
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582.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
583.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
我很遺憾的講 |
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583.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
我們在場的很多文官 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
585.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
588.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
無視與立法院相關的法規 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
588.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
590.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
其實呢大法官來下眼 |
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590.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
593.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
大法官解釋14號也很清楚 |
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| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
監察權是可以對於各所屬機關的職員來行使權利 |
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600.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
601.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
我只是要提醒 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
601.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
605.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
過去到現在對於立法院相關的案子調查 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
605.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
606.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
只有三案 |
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606.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
609.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
對於這些文官沒有憾守 |
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609.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
611.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
應當依法 |
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611.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
614.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
卻配合著立法院的 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
644.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
647.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
應當沒有憲法中的應付 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
647.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
不作為政黨鬥爭的工具 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
655.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
所以說監察權對於各級機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
655.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
659.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
公司及任何立法院的職員也是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
659.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
662.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
有任何違法失職 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
662.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
665.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
我們都要為所當為 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
665.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
667.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
而不是面對立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
670.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
就像立法院判其他部門的預算 |
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670.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
673.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
對於自己的預算一毛不懈 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
673.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
677.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
那監察權對於立法院行使的各項權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
677.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
680.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
過去到現在只有三個調查案 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
680.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
688.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
其中兩案是針對具體有不當事件利益出動的臨時刪除議案 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
688.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
691.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
對違法的公務人員 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
691.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
695.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
我們也應當監察權能夠行使 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
695.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
697.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
好 謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
697.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
700.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
謝謝吳委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
700.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
706.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
謝謝 |