| IVOD_ID |
170893 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170893 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-11 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-11T10:48:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-11T10:58:54+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a2ba9baf794433617842df9b855b11db22f260bc4224891a0b49f891c216d8206304fc2c5abcbb3c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:48:11 - 10:58:54 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第5會期第2次全院委員會（事由：總統咨，為監察院第六屆監察委員任期於115年7月31日屆滿。茲依據憲法增修條文第7條第2項、監察院組織法第3條之1及監察院國家人權委員會組織法第3條規定，提名陳永興、王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬、陳景峻、彭紹瑾、廖婉汝、葉宜津、林麗瑩、侯廷昌、李光章、林文程、賴鼎銘、邱駿彥、徐光蓉、邱泰源、賴振昌、莊勝榮、吳梓生、王志誠、Iban Nokan、謝政達、林佳範、許有為、趙卿惠29位為監察院第七屆監察委員，並以陳永興為院長兼任監察院國家人權委員會主任委員、王榮璋為副院長；王榮璋、高天惠Eleng Tjaljimaraw、張菊芳、張烽益、林惠芳、孫一信、李麗芬7位適用監察院組織法第3條之1第1項第7款資格，咨請同意案（本案經本院第11屆第5會期第15次會議決定，有關總統提名廖婉汝、謝政達為第七屆監察委員部分，毋庸處理，其餘交全院委員會審查）。） |
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黃委員 |
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謝謝主席 |
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龍中原 |
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其實我個人對監察院的主張 |
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一直是我們民進黨從創黨以來 |
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所認為的就是要廢除監察院考試院 |
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那我現在這個看法沒有變 |
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但是既然我們體制上走到今天 |
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監察院因為要修憲才能廢 |
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這個工程浩大還沒能廢除之前 |
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那我們一樣我們執政的民進黨 |
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要負起這個責任 |
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當然就要提名監察委員 |
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監察院院長副院長 |
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讓體制正常的能夠來運行 |
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這是對的啦 |
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所以在我的看法 |
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如果我不得不要繼續維持監察院的話 |
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我認為您確實是最適合的監察委員 |
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甚至您現在要被推舉為副院長 |
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所以我以下就以副院長來對您做稱呼 |
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那個王副院長 |
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這個我很肯定你過去長年以來 |
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包括在立法院 |
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以及現在在監察院 |
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監察院兼任國家人權委員一樣 |
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就是說你長年對身障者權益 |
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對弱勢團體他們的權益的保障 |
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你確實是不遺餘力的在奔走 |
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那也看到你做到的很多成績 |
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那我今天要請教你兩個問題 |
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就是關於身心障礙者 |
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他們的人權保障 |
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如何加強身心障礙者他們的人權 |
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因為我們知道現在有許多 |
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是在法律上已經訂定 |
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對於身障者他們有保障 |
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但是實際生活上面卻是沒有真正落實的 |
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比方說 |
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比方說身心障礙者他們的自立生活 |
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這個部分我們在不管是長照的時數也好 |
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其他各方面交通的服務也好 |
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我就舉例 |
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身心障礙者自立生活 |
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他們最需要的就是就學、就業、就醫 |
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這三個部分 |
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我們並沒有增加在這一個部分 |
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應該對他們的長照的時數 |
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交通工具的時數 |
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來增加對他們的這部分權益的保障 |
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所以這個部分我希望 |
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未來你在監察院副院長的這個位置上 |
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能夠多多去推動去要求相關部會 |
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我們在身心障礙者自立生活上面 |
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給予他們這一些加強 |
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就是就學、就業、就醫 |
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讓身心障礙者 |
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226 |
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跟我們一般所有國民一樣 |
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都能夠自立生活 |
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第二點希望你能做到的 |
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就是數位化時代 |
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這個時候的身心障礙人權 |
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那麼我們知道政府的服務 |
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那快速的數位化 |
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250 |
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像線上申辦、數位、身分證 |
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250 |
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255 |
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金融服務、醫療服務、人工智慧的應用 |
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255 |
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這都越來越多 |
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這是好事 |
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但是當政府在快速數位化的時候 |
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似乎都忘了身障者他們 |
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也就是說政府在做這件事情的時候 |
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272 |
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是很快速喔 |
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273 |
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但是有很多障礙者 |
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因為他身體的障礙 |
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其實他沒有辦法去使用數位工具 |
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所以我就是希望說 |
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285 |
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那當這個快速數位化的時候 |
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那麼因為他的障礙 |
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而無法使用數位工具的人 |
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那是不是有什麼方式 |
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應該要求政府讓他們能夠取得公共服務 |
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就是在這個數位化時代的時候 |
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我們身心障礙者他們的人權 |
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309 |
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這個部分我希望你有辦法能夠把它加強 |
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這個部分王副院長你看法呢 |
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325 |
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謝謝王委員的肯定、指教 |
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325 |
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我想我非常同意就是說在身心障礙者這一個部分 |
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很多的就是需求我們在我們的國內現行的法規裡面 |
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有規定就是說要保障 |
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但是沒有辦法落實 |
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那我也非常同意您的意見 |
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344 |
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這個部分的話 |
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那很重要的一個基本的原則 |
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351 |
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怎麼樣子落實 |
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351 |
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355 |
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除了我們現有的就是說各項法律的規定 |
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355 |
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357 |
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無論在法裡面 |
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360 |
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然後或者是在我們的特教法裡面 |
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360 |
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366 |
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我們的就業相關的法規裡面的這個部分能夠落實 |
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366 |
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369 |
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更重要的一個部分是 |
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369 |
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371 |
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身心障礙者權力公約 |
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371 |
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375 |
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聯合國身心障礙者權力公約CRPD |
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375 |
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380 |
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聯合國爵士的就是說這一些的保障的內容等等 |
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380 |
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383 |
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能夠在台灣能夠落地深耕 |
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383 |
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386 |
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因為我們政府其實政府在這個部分 |
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386 |
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390 |
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數位的部分是已經越做越好越做越快 |
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390 |
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395 |
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到時候都是數位優先甚至數位唯一啦 |
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395 |
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397 |
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當數位唯一的時候 |
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404 |
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那麼這個有身障者確實他沒有辦法使用到這些數位工具 |
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404 |
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406 |
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所以王副院長我希望你這一部分 |
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406 |
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410 |
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能夠積極具體的在你副院長任內 |
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410 |
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414 |
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積極的去幫身心障礙者去爭取 |
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414 |
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415 |
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去保護他們 |
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415 |
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419 |
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那我只有一項跟你是截然不同的看法 |
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419 |
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421 |
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因為你身兼國家人權委員後 |
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421 |
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424 |
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那我看到你們過去的一些成績 |
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424 |
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426 |
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其實過去的一些成績 |
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426 |
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430 |
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你任內實現職業性別評點 |
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430 |
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432 |
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在職場上的性別評點 |
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432 |
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435 |
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促進兒少人權這些都很正面 |
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435 |
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437 |
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這些都非常正面 |
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437 |
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441 |
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但是每一年你們這些報告裡面都會扯到 |
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441 |
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445 |
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就是關於廢死廢除死刑 |
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445 |
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448 |
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這一點我跟你們看法截然不同 |
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448 |
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451 |
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那我舉一兩句我認為 |
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451 |
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458 |
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這實在是你認為我們全體的人民認為這有沒有道理 |
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458 |
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464 |
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說要廢除死刑是要維護生命權與人性尊嚴 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
464 |
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470 |
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廢除死刑是要維護生命權與人性尊嚴 |
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470 |
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473 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
副院長我請教你 |
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473 |
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480 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
當被害人他的生命權被加害人剝奪了 |
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480 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
他的人性尊嚴被加害人完全摧毀了 |
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485 |
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490 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
被毀了我們還在保護加害人什麼生命權 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
492 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
什麼他的生命尊嚴 |
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492 |
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493 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
不是嗎 |
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493 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
當他剝奪了別人的生命權和生命尊嚴的時候 |
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497 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
他就不夠格 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
有生命權跟他的人性尊嚴 |
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504 |
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506 |
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就是這麼簡單 |
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511 |
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512 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
這個 |
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512 |
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513 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
抱歉 |
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513 |
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515 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
我再七個三秒鐘 |
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522 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
我們要還被害人一個公道 |
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526 |
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530 |
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這就是司法正義最重要的目標 |
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530 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
別的還不講 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
為什麼古代殺人償命 |
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536 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
這是天經地義的道理嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
539 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
不是這樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
541 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
543 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
什麼罪就什麼罰 |
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543 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
罪與罰要怎樣 |
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546 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
549 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
當這個罪與罰罪越來越加重 |
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549 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
553 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
重道罪大惡極罪無可患 |
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553 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
都已經殺人甚至毀屍強盜強奸 |
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560 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
567 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
這些惡行導致加害人受害被害人受害致死的時候 |
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568 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
569 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
這些都已經 |
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569 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
573 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
我們現在國內有37個案例 |
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573 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
已經判刑確定 |
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576 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
都已經罪證確鑿 |
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578 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
結果還拖在那裡 |
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580 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
585 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
就是因為拜這些人權團體之事 |
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585 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
這些廢死團體之事 |
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588 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
我在質問法案部長的時候 |
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591 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
595 |
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我看到他臉上那種很驚恐 |
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595 |
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597 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
很無奈的表情 |
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597 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我就知道他背後一定有這些壓力 |
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600 |
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602 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
所以副院長 |
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602 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
我希望在這一個部分 |
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604 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
您能夠好好思考思考 |
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606 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
609 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
現在百分之根據你自己的報告 |
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609 |
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611 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
你說百分之七十以上 |
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611 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
613 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我們台灣人民堅持 |
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613 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
堅決主張廢除死刑 |
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616 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
617 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
那更新的報告 |
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617 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
法案部的報告 |
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619 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
百分之九十一 |
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620 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
623 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
我們的台灣人民主張死刑 |
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623 |
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626 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
反對廢死這個部分 |
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626 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
我希望你帶回去衡量一下 |