| IVOD_ID |
170880 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170880 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-10 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-10T10:12:41+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-10T10:20:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:22 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/11f3ac9a4aee4d2504c4075d72ee247aa668c17b04757bc199ee4bfa2bac52e00829630984fb1b6e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:12:41 - 10:20:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆修憲委員會公聽會(第2場)（事由：討論題綱：憲法增修條文第四條第一項第二款修正案一、山地原住民、平地原住民分類是否仍具有憲法上的正當性？二、取消山地、平地分類，原住民六席在憲法中的代表原則？三、山地、平地原住民分類退出憲法後，整體法制應如何銜接？四、修憲條文之文字應如何表述？） |
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來 我們有請鍾嘉斌委員做發言 |
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主席 |
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在場 |
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的學者專家代表 |
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我們的委員還有媒體的朋友 |
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所有關心 |
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議題原住民權益的各位 |
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台灣的社會的每一個分子 |
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我們來看一下我的標題很簡單 |
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修憲分類 |
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32.76 |
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選舉是純粹為了服務威權統治 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
33.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
36.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
移除3D平地回歸到原住民的權利 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
36.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
37.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
首先我們看 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
38.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
39.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
憲法徵求條文第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
39.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
43.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
他根本純粹就是一個政治考慮設置的選制 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
43.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
47.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
中華民國的徵求條文第四條他說第七屆開始立法委員113人 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
48.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
49.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
在之前有225人的 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
50.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
53.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
然後呢他在每屆任滿三個月內 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
54.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
58.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
自由地區選出平地原住民及3D原住民各3人 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
59.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
60.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
這是在 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
61.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
63.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
2005年修憲後調整名額後 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
64.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
65.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
從第七屆開始就是這個規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
66.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
70.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
為什麼他是政治考量他是純粹設置選制而且二元拆分 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
70.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
72.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
他只是要規範我們立法委員的產生方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
72.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
74.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
他根本就是個威權移去 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
74.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
77.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
他的定義的邏輯是定義選制不是定義族群 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
78.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
80.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
而且他不是原來憲法徵求條文的意旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
81.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
83.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
接下來我把結論說完了我來說他的嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
83.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
84.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
請看 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
84.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
86.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
為什麼說是威權移去 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
86.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
88.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
國民黨黨國時期分額自資 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
89.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
92.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
從動員開的時期自由地區增加中央民意代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
93.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
94.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
名額選舉辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
94.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
95.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
俗稱的真額 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
96.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
97.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
這裡面年紀較長的就知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
98.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
99.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
第一屆真額真了好幾次 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
100.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
104.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
從1972年那時候開始有真額的代表的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
104.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
106.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
那時候立法委員是怎麼規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
106.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
107.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
他說 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
107.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
109.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
三包選出者1人 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
110.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
112.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
職業團體選出者8人 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
113.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
116.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
僑居國外之國民選出者15人 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
116.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
119.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
所以我們那時候有所謂的僑選立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
119.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
120.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
有所謂的什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
120.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
121.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
農民立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
121.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
122.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
漁民立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
122.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
122.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
工業立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
122.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
123.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
工人立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
123.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
124.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
商業立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
124.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
124.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
教育立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
125.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
126.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
還有三包 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
127.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
129.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
2 4 6 7個類別 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
130.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
131.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
選出了幾個選出了9個 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
131.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
133.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
為什麼因為農民多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
133.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
134.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
工人多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
135 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
137.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
那時候有一個前花蓮縣長叫謝生山 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
137.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
138.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
他號稱是工人立委 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
139.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
141.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
家母呢是教師 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
141.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
143.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
家父是國研事業的員工 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
143.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
145.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
我記得小時候那時候他們去投票 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
146.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
147.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
欸我們住在一起啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
147.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
150.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
我爸爸領的選票跟我媽媽領的選票不一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
150.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
152 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
我父親是投給誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
152.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
154.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
他說他投給工人立委謝生山啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
154.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
156 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
那我媽媽投給誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
156.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
157.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
他投給教育團體的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
158.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
159.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
那時候有誰 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
159.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
160.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
有賴宛中啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
161.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
161.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
有當過什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
162.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
163.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
當過台北的國小校長啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
164.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
165.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
為什麼國民黨這樣設計 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
166 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
166.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
很簡單 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
166.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
169.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
國民黨共產黨系出同源往哪看 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
169.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
中國的人大政協 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
171.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
172.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
他區分成團體代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
172.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
174.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
有婦女工商青年僑胞 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
174.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
175.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
欸你看 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
176 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
177.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
國民黨一模一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
177.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
179.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
國民黨的黨章他叫全民政黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
180.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
182.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
他中央跟地方的選舉是脫鉤的 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
182.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
184.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
地方是按照區域選制的 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
184.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
187.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
所以地方選舉是區域選舉基本上是票票等值 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
187.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
189.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
但是中央政權選舉呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
189.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
191.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
他拆分成那麼多代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
191.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
193.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
然後呢來選出為什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
193.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
194.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
便於控制啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
195.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
197.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
農民團體農會給你兩席 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
197.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
199.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
工人團體你聽聽話 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
199.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
201.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
工會農工是國民黨的最怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
202.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
202.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
怎麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
202.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
204.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
國民黨就是被農工 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
204.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
206.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
農工政權推倒的嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
206.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
207.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
207.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
209.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
所以呢他就把農民跟工人搞多一點 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
209.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
211.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
原住民要不要攏絡 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
211.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
211.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
要啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
211.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
212.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
三包一席啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
213.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
214.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
花愛先生啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
215.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
215.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
215.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
217.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
到了為了鞏固社會統治 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
217.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
218.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
大陸原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
218.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
219.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
而且後來啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
219.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
222.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
還沿用了日治的三地平地二分法往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
223.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
225.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
在1972年到1975年 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
225.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
226.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
就是三包一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
227.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
228.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
到了1980年 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
228.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
229.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
分成兩分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
230.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
232.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
三地平地各一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
232.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
233.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
到了1989年 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
233.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
235.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
三地平地各兩名 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
236.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
237.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
到了1992年 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
237.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
240 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
三地平地各三名 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
240.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
242.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
到了1994年要修憲了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
243.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
244.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
245.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
245.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
那時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
245.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
246.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
包括民進黨 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
246.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
249.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
包括我們在座的賴昆臣前國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
249.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
251.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
在第二屆的時候說不可以了 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
251.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
252.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
不能叫三地人 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
253.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
254.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
三包要叫什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
254.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
255.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
叫原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
256.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
258.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
可是那時候只調整成原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
258.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
260.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
有沒有把三地跟平地拿掉呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
261.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
261.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
261.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
262.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
所以在1998年 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
262.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
264.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
剛剛有幾位學者提到了 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
264.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
265.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
1998年 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
265.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
268.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
立委的席次是225席 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
269 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
270.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
所以席次成長 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
270.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
272.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
三元平元各四名 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
273.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
274.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
到了第七屆 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
275.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
276.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
2005年之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
276.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
277.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
說回來減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
278.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
279.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
國會席次減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
279.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
281.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
我還在全新樓前面被政報警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
281.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
282.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
按了警棍呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
283.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
284.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
那時候跟林立榮先生一起呼籲 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
284.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
285.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
國會減半 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
286.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
287.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
113席 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
287.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
289.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
所以第七屆開始2008年 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
289.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
291.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
三元平元各三席 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
292.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
293 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
看到了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
293.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
295.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
根本不是基於民族的理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
295.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
296.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
是基於什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
297.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
298.64 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
威權統治 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
298.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
300.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
分化各個社會團體 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
300.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
301.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
分而治之啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
302.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
302.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
303.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
304.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
304.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
306.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
你看動灘時期的真額補選方法 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
307.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
308.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
從1980年 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
308.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
309.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
第三次真額 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
309.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
310.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
三地 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
310.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
311.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
平地各一名 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
311.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
313.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
徵銷者第四次的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
313.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
314.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
1997年第二屆立法委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
315.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
316.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
三地平地各四名 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
317 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
到了第七次2008年的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
320.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
第七次休憩2005年 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
320.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
321.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
第七次的立委選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
321.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
323 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
三地平地各三名 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
323.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
沿用了什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
324.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
日治時期的戶口分類 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
326.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
327.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
有高殺生煩 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
327.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
328.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
平補守反 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
329.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
330.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
國民黨嚴實的堅持二分 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
331.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
333.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
維護他既有的選區控制 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
333.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
336.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
根本跟民主的權益沒有任何關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
336.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
336.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
往下看 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
338.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
338.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
所以呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
338.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
341.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
立法我們看修憲者的原子是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
341.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
342.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
賴 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
343.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
343.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
343.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
345.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
我也當過第三屆國大代表 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
345.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
347.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
我們那時候中華民國政策第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
347.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
348.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
基本國策第十一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
348.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
350.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
國家肯定多元文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
350.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
353.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
並積極維護發展原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
353.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
354.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
語言及文化 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
355.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
356.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
有分三元跟平原嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
357.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
359.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
要看憲法的本意 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
359.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
359.92 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
要看哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
360.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
362.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
要看我們的基本國策第十條第十一項 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
363.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
365.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
要保障原住民族的地位跟政治參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
367.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
368.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
分三元平原是誰搞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
369.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
370.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
國民黨搞的 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
370.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
371.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
所以請大家仔細看 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
372.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
373.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我們歷次的修憲 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
373.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
375.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
從一九九四年第三次 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
375.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
377.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
三包正名為原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
377.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
379.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
一九九七年第四次徵修 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
379.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
380.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
原住民擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
380.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
要正名為原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
383.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
所以呢我們主張 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
383.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
386.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
我們的政修條文沒有分二元分三元平原 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
386.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
387.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
要整體保障原住民族 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
387.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
390.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
立委的選制那是沿襲就知政治考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
390.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
391.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
該怎麼處理 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
391.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
392.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
以後去修正貨廢止 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
392.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
393.6 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
最後的結論 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
394.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
395.48 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
我們憲法政修條文這裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
395.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
396.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
我就不再贅述了 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
397.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
398.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
未來還有什麼法要修 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
398.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
399.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
原住民身份法 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
399.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
401.04 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
公職連員選舉罷免法 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
401.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
403.12 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
地方立法機關組織 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
403.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
組織準則原住民保留地 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
404.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
406.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
開發管理辦法等等等 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
407.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
410.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
把這些三地跟平地的二分法 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
410.2 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
411.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
全部的拿掉 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
411.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
413.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
回歸到憲法政修條文第十條 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
414.16 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
416.32 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
原住民族這才是偵辦 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
416.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
417.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
最後結論是 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
417.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
419.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
遵循中華民國憲法政修條文第十條的意旨 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
419.56 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
保障整體原住民族之地位與政治參與 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
421.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
422.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
透過修憲程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
422.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
424.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
廢除威權時期遺留的 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
425 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
426.84 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
三地原住民跟平地原住民二分頭 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
427.24 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
428.76 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
那立法院應該儘速通過 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
428.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
包括憲法政修條文第四條 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
431.08 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
433.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
條文修正案廢止三地原住民 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
433.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
435.96 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
平地原住民的威權二分 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
436.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
438.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
保障整體原住民族的權益 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
438.72 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
439.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
就是五立法委員版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
439.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
440.36 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
謝謝 |