| IVOD_ID |
170879 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170879 |
| 日期 |
2026-08-10 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-08-10T09:37:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-08-10T09:46:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/11f3ac9a4aee4d251e5b60bc182cda03a668c17b04757bc199ee4bfa2bac52e01932705a9722646d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:37:11 - 09:46:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-08-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆修憲委員會公聽會(第2場)（事由：討論題綱：憲法增修條文第四條第一項第二款修正案一、山地原住民、平地原住民分類是否仍具有憲法上的正當性？二、取消山地、平地分類，原住民六席在憲法中的代表原則？三、山地、平地原住民分類退出憲法後，整體法制應如何銜接？四、修憲條文之文字應如何表述？） |
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好 主席 所有的專家學者 大家平安 |
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這個殖民時期 就是清朝日治時代 就區分為 深藩 熟藩 |
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那台灣由中華民國統治到現在 都稱為三眼平眼 |
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從過去的平地三包到現在 平地原住民 |
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所以我們是不是一定要講 這樣的一個區分是殖民時期 |
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難道中華民國政府現在在台灣還是殖民時期嗎 |
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這是第一個 我們看立法明定 |
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參政前分為三地原住民及平地原住民 |
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從過去1950年4月 台灣省各縣市實施地方自治綱要 |
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就明定地方民意代表區分為三眼平眼 |
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而且還特別明定保障三地鄉一定要有三地原住民的意言 |
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另外就特別明定三地鄉的鄉長 一定要三地原住民 |
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87 |
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我們看到了立法院來制定1944年7月 省縣自治法的公佈 |
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以及1999年1月地方自治法的公佈 |
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仍然區分為地方民意代表三眼平眼 |
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還特別明定三地鄉者應有三地原住民的意言 |
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尤其是民國99年直轄市的意言之前 不分三山平山直轄市的意言 |
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民國99年修地方制度法 直轄市的意言 平地一樣區分為三眼跟平眼 |
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所以如果我們從三地鄉一樣繼續明定為縣三地鄉 |
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三地原住民才能夠擔任三地鄉的鄉長 |
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1992年11月 現在的法律所明定的威權統治時期 |
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是在1992年11月以前是叫威權統治時期 |
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1992年11月以後已經不是威權統治時期了 |
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這是民進黨執政多數的時候在第九屆所明定的 |
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1992年11月以後已經不是威權統治時期 |
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我們的地方制度法持續明定三眼跟平眼 |
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這個地方制度法的修法歷程 修了這麼多次 這麼多次 仍然明定 |
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我們看憲法徵修條文 |
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憲法徵修條文一開始 從民國80年開始 就是分三眼平眼 |
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另外尤其是這個商包證明為原住民的 |
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民國83年一樣區分為三眼平眼 |
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所有的原住民的國大代表都支持 |
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歷次修憲之後都是一樣 |
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而且都是在什麼時候 都是在威權統治時期之後所修憲 |
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所以我們看這個111年10月28號憲判至第17號 |
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當初針對這個原住民身分法也特別寫 |
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依據憲法徵修條文第四條三地原住民及平地原住民規定的用語 |
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原住民身分法的依據就是現在我們先要討論的憲法徵修條文第四條 |
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第四條如果被修正的 |
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原住民身分法就是必要跟著會有這樣的一個風險 |
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我們看這個憲判至第17號之後 |
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256 |
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所以我們才制定了什麼 平普原住民族群身分法 |
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256 |
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260 |
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當已經有平普原住民族群身分法之後 |
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268 |
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我們是不是也要考慮平普原住民相關的這些潛意或所影響的部分 |
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所以憲法徵修條文第四條 |
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277 |
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如果從現行的平地原住民及三地原住民各三人 |
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281 |
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修正為自由地區原住民六人 |
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281 |
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283 |
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雖然席次沒有減少 |
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286 |
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但是它的風險在哪裡呢 |
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它的風險就是恐造成憲法法定 |
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296 |
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在判決不應再區分為三人平原平普原住民 |
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302 |
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這樣的一個重大的風險我們必須要深深的去考量 |
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303 |
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307 |
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好 我們看到底平普原住民有多少人 |
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309 |
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根據內政部的統計 |
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309 |
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312 |
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根據內政部的統計喔 |
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312 |
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316 |
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107年是98萬1000多人 |
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320 |
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如果這是只有登記熟翻的喔 |
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320 |
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325 |
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如果加上通分的絕對是100多萬人 |
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325 |
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327 |
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絕對是100多萬人 |
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327 |
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330 |
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這就是平普原住民的部分 |
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330 |
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333 |
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好 它的影響是什麼呢 |
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333 |
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336 |
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如果我們憲法改了 |
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336 |
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338 |
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不分三人平原 |
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341 |
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我剛講有造成風險就不應該再分 |
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341 |
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343 |
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憲法法定會再判決 |
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343 |
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346 |
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那我們現在的原住民身份法 |
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346 |
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348 |
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平普原住民族群身份法 |
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348 |
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352 |
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就必須要依憲法法定的判決再修正 |
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352 |
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354 |
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就沒有分三人平原 |
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359 |
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而我們原住民保有地26萬7千多公頃 |
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359 |
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365 |
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我們看從台北市一直到屏東到台東到花蓮 |
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367 |
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369 |
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只要是有原住民身份 |
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371 |
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平普原住民身份 |
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374 |
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只要有原住民身份就可以買原住民保留地 |
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374 |
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377 |
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那我們到底會流失多少 |
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379 |
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382 |
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最重中之重 |
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382 |
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385 |
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剛剛這土地是重中之重 |
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385 |
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388 |
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第二個重中之重的是什麼 |
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388 |
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390 |
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就是我們的教育 |
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390 |
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392 |
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我們現在看 |
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392 |
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396 |
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我們近五年大專校園學生的初在協力 |
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396 |
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399 |
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從107學年度的落差是 |
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399 |
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402 |
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沿岸的落差是31.9 |
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402 |
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409 |
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現在高達113年度的落差是38.3 |
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409 |
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412 |
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這樣重大的落差 |
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412 |
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415 |
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100多萬的平普原住民 |
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415 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
417 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
在進來之後 |
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417 |
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419 |
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照說憲法法定就會說 |
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419 |
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421 |
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尤其是剛才一直提到的 |
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421 |
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426 |
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憲法徵修條文第十條第十二項 |
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426 |
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431 |
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這也是憲法判決的時候特別引用的 |
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431 |
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433 |
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平普原住民可以進來 |
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433 |
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437 |
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就是引用了第十條第十二項 |
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437 |
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442 |
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他們當然就可以適用所有的相關的潛意 |
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442 |
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445 |
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那我們要保障我們影響是多少 |
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445 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
447 |
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我們要不要去評估 |
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447 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
我們要不要去評估 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
449 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
審慎審慎的評估 |
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451 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
453 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
當然還包括就業 |
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453 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
就業 |
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455 |
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458 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
未來原住民行政特考 |
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458 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
考上的這到底是 |
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460 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
現在的三元平元 |
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462 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
還是平普原住民 |
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464 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
467 |
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未來三地鄉的鄉公所是不是都是 |
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467 |
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471 |
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是不是還是我們平元三元在那邊服務 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
471 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
475 |
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這個都必須要去審慎的評估 |
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475 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
477 |
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所以本席過去 |
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477 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
482 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
在上一屆我提了憲法徵修條文第四條 |
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482 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
485 |
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我就是依陳水扁總統的 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
原住民與台灣政府 |
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488 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
新夥伴關係文件 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
491 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
這個新夥伴關係協定是協定 |
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494 |
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498 |
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按照7A地結法協定就是7A |
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498 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
但是我們沒有落實 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
所以我上一屆有提到 |
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502 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
很遺憾沒有通過了 |
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505 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
本席這一屆提出的是 |
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510 |
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516 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
維持平元三元的一個席次 |
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516 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
那平普原住民要增累 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
518 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
增累一樣三人 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
但是一開始的時候 |
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522 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
平普原住民的人口可能還沒有那麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
會逐步的增加 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
527 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
未達30萬以上的時候 |
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529 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
每10萬人就有一個席次 |
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532 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
這樣的話我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
既然這次要修憲的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
是不是就平元三元仍然維持 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
在增累這個平普原住民的一個席次 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
這個部分是要特別 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
因為時間的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
這個我本來還很多要講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
等一下這個休息的時候再好好的討論 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
以上謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
557 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
好非常感謝鄭天才委員的發言 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
565 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
接下來我們有請東海大學 |