iVOD / 170828

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IVOD_ID 170828
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170828
日期 2026-08-05
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-15-22
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 22
會議資料.種類 委員會
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會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-08-05T09:29:48+08:00
結束時間 2026-08-05T09:41:58+08:00
影片長度 00:12:10
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 許忠信
委員發言時間 09:29:48 - 09:41:58
會議時間 2026-08-05T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議(事由:一、審查「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例」:(一)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例增訂第九十三條之四條文草案」案。(二)審查委員林楚茵等24人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第十八條之一條文修正草案」案。(三)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第六十九條條文修正草案」案。(四)審查委員李柏毅等20人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例第十八條之一條文修正草案」案。(五)審查委員李柏毅等16人擬具「臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例部分條文修正草案」案。二、審查「香港澳門關係條例」:(一)繼續審查委員張宏陸等20人擬具「香港澳門關係條例第十四條、第十四條之一及第四十七條之一條文修正草案」案。(二)審查委員李柏毅等16人擬具「香港澳門關係條例部分條文修正草案」案。【僅詢答】)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 有請 陸委會 邱主委
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 徐委員好
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 今天 我們修
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 這個 兩岸關係條例93條之4
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 所以我針對這個問題 要來
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transcript.whisperx[5].text 跟各位 探討一個
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 陸配權益保障的問題
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 所以它會比較難
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 不是要故意刁難主委 而是要讓我們的法治
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transcript.whisperx[9].text 更精進
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 我國人民登記不動產
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 現在
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 根據我國法院多數的判決
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 會是被允許的
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 但是 原住民的土地
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 如果非原住民 透過原住民
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 來建民登記 那這個 我們法院
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 法院判決是無效
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 這個多數的見解 現在是這樣
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 那我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 在兩岸關係條例69條
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 有規定
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 也就是說
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 大陸地區人民 不得取得
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 設定移轉不動產
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 以及其他投資行為
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 主委你不覺得這個其他投資行為
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 這個概念非常廣 變成
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 我現在用一個例子來請教主委
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 一個陸配嫁過來台灣三年
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 還沒有取得身份證之前
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 他去買股票
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 是不是這裡的投資行為
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 是 是嗎
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 所以這個很顯然太廣
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 那麼兩岸關係條例這樣一個
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 69條 禁止規定
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 他的效果的確
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 不是很明確說
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 他如果違反這個規定去取得不動產
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 他是否是無效
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 報委員要由我們主管機關許可
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 許可就可以 如果沒有許可的話
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 是否無效
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 我們根據民法71條
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 違反法律禁止之規定者
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 法律行為無效 是
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 根據71條其實可以得到無效的結果
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 只是不明確
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 那我們現在
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 兩岸條例94條
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 這個知識的修正案
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 修正草案
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 我們把它明確的講無效
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 本席暫同 因為本席完全接受
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 入資來炒作台灣的不動產
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 使得台灣的不動產
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 使得價格飆漲
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 也本席也完全反對
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 入資來控制我們台灣有國防安全
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 重要關鍵的土地
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 這個我都完全贊同
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 但是不能夠繳往過正
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 不能繳往過正
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 所以這個無效我同意
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 法緩 法禁 我也同意
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 但是各位看到我們94條知識的
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 修法理由
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 並沒有像你的書面報告裡面所講的
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 它的立法理由為何
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 因為為了要我國不動產市場
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 以及國家安全戰略防禦
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 造成漏洞的避免
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 為了避免對我國安全戰略
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 這是你的書面報告裡面講的
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transcript.whisperx[82].text 我贊成
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transcript.whisperx[84].text 也是武力法委員所提出的
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transcript.whisperx[87].text 並沒有您所講的這麼理由
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 這樣適否允當
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transcript.whisperx[89].text 也就是說您書面報告有啦
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 我贊同
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transcript.whisperx[91].text 但是在修法理由裡面並沒有這樣
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transcript.whisperx[92].text 那因為本席時常要出外交任務
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 國會外交任務
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transcript.whisperx[94].text 所以時常沒辦法來審法調
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transcript.whisperx[95].text 所以在這裡先跟主委報告
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transcript.whisperx[96].text 不敢
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transcript.whisperx[97].text 這個您書面報告的理由要放進去
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transcript.whisperx[98].text 也就是說要限縮
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 如果他來購買的投資的
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 就明登記的是無關重要的土地
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transcript.whisperx[101].text 我們沒必要去限制他
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transcript.whisperx[102].text 沒必要去限制他
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 所以我剛才提到
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transcript.whisperx[106].text 我們對他的限制這麼的多
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transcript.whisperx[107].text 我舉一個例子好了
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transcript.whisperx[108].text 陸配駕過來三年
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transcript.whisperx[111].text 那先生的財產不動產
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 他要繼承
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 那也根據69條
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transcript.whisperx[114].text 跟我們這94條的修法
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 他還是不能繼承
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 這個變成我們兩岸人民關係條例
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 限制了這個陸配的繼承權
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 這是我允當
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 主委您覺得呢
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 剛剛委員講修正的更加明確
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transcript.whisperx[123].text 那我們也表示贊同
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transcript.whisperx[124].text 剛剛您有提到陸配
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 還是要經過主管機關的許可
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transcript.whisperx[128].text 那如果說
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transcript.whisperx[130].text 看他有沒有取得
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 取得也是繼承
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 這樣對他們的權益保障
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 這個就是民法相關的規定
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 所以這個是我們這次修法要一起處理
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 陸配就已經可以繼承了
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 明確把它歸清成無效
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 讓它無效
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 在這一次
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 立法委員的修法裡面
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 應該要加以稍微注意
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transcript.whisperx[204].text 第二點
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transcript.whisperx[205].text 我們93條之四的修法說明
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 也就剛才我們武力法委員的修法說明
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transcript.whisperx[209].text 而主委您剛才也是用大陸人民
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 對不對
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 沒錯
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 變成我們立法院所通過的
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 這樣是否妥當
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 今天我們審武力法委員這個法案
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 他的精神在於
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 這個精神我贊同
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 來規避審查
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 不應該出現在立法說明裡面
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 提供人頭協助登記
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 不是很恐怖嗎
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 這麼的一般化
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 這是否引擋
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 是就是透過建民登記
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 陸配
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 就會用法定用語
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 但是如果這個版通過
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 就會成為本院的官方文書
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 將來我們為
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 這個研讀這方面的法律
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 就會看到中國人民這四個字
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 相當不當
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 有關文字的部分
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 我們也會跟委員來溝通
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 所以提供人頭部分
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 我的人頭可以提供
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 不能在說明裡面
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 用提供人頭
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 只要本席在立法院的時候
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 我不希望有這種法律通過
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 我會被法學界抨擊
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 我沒有盡到我法學者的職責
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 拜託主委
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transcript.whisperx[283].text 謝謝許中信