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許忠信 @ 第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第29次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:02,600 | 國防部部長 顧部長 |
| 00:00:06,900 | 00:00:07,900 | 部長好 |
| 00:00:08,640 | 00:00:09,880 | 任次 許永豪 |
| 00:00:11,000 | 00:00:13,260 | 我今天穿這件 |
| 00:00:13,780 | 00:00:16,620 | 飛行夾克 特別帥氣 對不對 |
| 00:00:18,160 | 00:00:20,000 | 這件飛行夾克 |
| 00:00:20,740 | 00:00:21,980 | 非賣品 |
| 00:00:22,580 | 00:00:26,100 | 我做了空軍全保衛委員二十幾年 |
| 00:00:26,520 | 00:00:28,260 | 才有這個飛行夾克 |
| 00:00:29,260 | 00:00:32,600 | 各位看到那個 螢幕裡面的 |
| 00:00:32,920 | 00:00:34,700 | 金國浩戰機 |
| 00:00:35,600 | 00:00:37,040 | 我私入 |
| 00:00:37,400 | 00:00:38,560 | 駕駛艙 |
| 00:00:39,820 | 00:00:43,060 | 拍了這個相片 還在LINE裡面 |
| 00:00:43,100 | 00:00:44,240 | 做相片 |
| 00:00:44,760 | 00:00:47,860 | 接到我LINE的 都非常的羨慕我 |
| 00:00:49,220 | 00:00:51,180 | 我是不是有特權去拍 |
| 00:00:52,340 | 00:00:54,220 | 我是受到允許 |
| 00:00:54,640 | 00:00:57,000 | 我們空軍全保衛委員 |
| 00:00:57,160 | 00:00:59,840 | 才能夠被允許上去拍照 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:01,900 | 每一個委員都可以拍照 |
| 00:01:03,260 | 00:01:04,560 | 部長您有聽過 |
| 00:01:05,060 | 00:01:08,300 | 空軍前總司令劉桂麗 |
| 00:01:10,320 | 00:01:14,180 | 各位有聽過空軍前總司令劉桂麗 |
| 00:01:15,860 | 00:01:17,340 | 很多人沒有聽過 |
| 00:01:20,460 | 00:01:21,460 | 這個 |
| 00:01:23,740 | 00:01:24,740 | 林佑 |
| 00:01:25,539 | 00:01:27,899 | 是空軍前總司令 |
| 00:01:28,580 | 00:01:30,800 | 劉桂麗他們當時所做 |
| 00:01:31,339 | 00:01:34,220 | 送給我們空軍全保衛委員 |
| 00:01:34,839 | 00:01:37,839 | 那我們空軍艦額沒有這麼胖的 |
| 00:01:38,100 | 00:01:40,640 | 我懷疑他是根據我的體型做的 |
| 00:01:41,440 | 00:01:44,880 | 這件夾克應該也是根據我的體型訂做 |
| 00:01:45,140 | 00:01:47,640 | 因為我們F16的飛行員 |
| 00:01:47,640 | 00:01:49,240 | 沒有我這麼胖的 |
| 00:01:50,179 | 00:01:53,840 | 我坐在那個金國浩戰機裡面的機艙裡面 |
| 00:01:54,160 | 00:01:57,540 | 才感覺到那種飛行員的辛苦 |
| 00:01:58,400 | 00:02:00,700 | 非常的窄小而要 |
| 00:02:00,700 | 00:02:04,340 | 操縱非常複雜的儀器設備 |
| 00:02:04,340 | 00:02:06,640 | 而且要高空 |
| 00:02:06,640 | 00:02:09,940 | 急速的飛行而且要作戰 |
| 00:02:10,900 | 00:02:15,480 | 那種辛苦我特地進機艙去體驗它 |
| 00:02:16,080 | 00:02:18,400 | 所以空軍全保衛委員 |
| 00:02:18,600 | 00:02:20,580 | 我當二十幾年 |
| 00:02:21,480 | 00:02:24,680 | 我穿西裝敢在這裡撒野 |
| 00:02:25,080 | 00:02:27,980 | 但是我穿這件夾克的時候 |
| 00:02:28,480 | 00:02:31,980 | 我絕對跟部長秉持一報 |
| 00:02:33,680 | 00:02:35,780 | 空軍的士氣 |
| 00:02:36,420 | 00:02:40,180 | 您今天報告裡面所講的那些內容 |
| 00:02:40,680 | 00:02:42,580 | 坦白講效用不大 |
| 00:02:43,280 | 00:02:45,220 | 我當過經理官 |
| 00:02:45,540 | 00:02:48,680 | 我知道這種課程效用不大 |
| 00:02:49,280 | 00:02:51,280 | 空軍的權益保障 |
| 00:02:51,980 | 00:02:53,480 | 能夠落實 |
| 00:02:54,280 | 00:02:56,980 | 它才是我們的心理士氣 |
| 00:02:57,280 | 00:02:59,580 | 的提升的重要的機制 |
| 00:03:01,080 | 00:03:02,280 | 所以呢 |
| 00:03:02,880 | 00:03:08,480 | 我已當過空軍全保衛委員二十幾年的經驗 |
| 00:03:09,280 | 00:03:10,280 | 為榮 |
| 00:03:10,980 | 00:03:14,880 | 而我當這個委員不是一般的教授可以有這個機會 |
| 00:03:15,880 | 00:03:17,880 | 我兩千年回國 |
| 00:03:17,880 | 00:03:20,380 | 2002年台灣加入LTO |
| 00:03:20,880 | 00:03:25,880 | 台灣所有的法律要翻譯成英文報世界貿易組織 |
| 00:03:26,380 | 00:03:28,380 | 那個英文要怎麼翻譯 |
| 00:03:28,880 | 00:03:31,380 | 我在輔大替法務部 |
| 00:03:31,880 | 00:03:34,380 | 非常用功的翻譯 |
| 00:03:34,880 | 00:03:38,880 | 法務部才跟我講說許教授 |
| 00:03:38,880 | 00:03:40,380 | 許助理教授 |
| 00:03:40,880 | 00:03:44,380 | 空軍全保衛有一位孫力委員 |
| 00:03:45,380 | 00:03:47,380 | 他沒辦法再繼續擔任 |
| 00:03:47,880 | 00:03:51,380 | 我們推薦你去空軍當全保衛委員要不要 |
| 00:03:51,880 | 00:03:53,380 | 我說當然同意 |
| 00:03:53,680 | 00:03:55,880 | 這是我最大的榮譽 |
| 00:03:56,880 | 00:03:59,380 | 我們全保衛委員開會 |
| 00:04:00,880 | 00:04:02,880 | 教授、律師 |
| 00:04:03,380 | 00:04:07,880 | 有一半是將軍、中將當主席 |
| 00:04:09,380 | 00:04:11,380 | 過了很久一段時間 |
| 00:04:11,880 | 00:04:13,880 | 審一名少將 |
| 00:04:14,380 | 00:04:15,880 | 他才能夠列席 |
| 00:04:16,380 | 00:04:17,880 | 士兵 |
| 00:04:18,380 | 00:04:19,880 | 退伍的將領 |
| 00:04:20,380 | 00:04:23,380 | 任何的權益受到有一點委屈 |
| 00:04:24,380 | 00:04:25,880 | 他就申訴 |
| 00:04:26,380 | 00:04:27,880 | 將近十顆星星 |
| 00:04:28,880 | 00:04:31,380 | 包括法律人、律師 |
| 00:04:31,880 | 00:04:34,380 | 將近二十個工作人員 |
| 00:04:34,880 | 00:04:37,380 | 聽一個士兵在那邊訴苦 |
| 00:04:37,880 | 00:04:40,380 | 他說我犯了過錯 |
| 00:04:40,380 | 00:04:41,880 | 不應該兩個過 |
| 00:04:42,380 | 00:04:43,380 | 過重 |
| 00:04:43,880 | 00:04:46,880 | 我們就會聽了解他的事實 |
| 00:04:47,380 | 00:04:49,880 | 然後我們這些民間委員 |
| 00:04:50,380 | 00:04:52,380 | 就會跟這些將官報告 |
| 00:04:52,880 | 00:04:54,380 | 這個的確過重 |
| 00:04:54,880 | 00:04:56,380 | 過重的原因 |
| 00:04:56,880 | 00:05:01,880 | 只要弟兄鬧出新聞 |
| 00:05:02,380 | 00:05:04,880 | 上了報總司令就發怒 |
| 00:05:05,380 | 00:05:07,380 | 就會加重處分 |
| 00:05:07,380 | 00:05:10,380 | 然後我們就會把他降下來 |
| 00:05:10,880 | 00:05:15,380 | 很多士兵來到我們委員會申訴以後 |
| 00:05:15,880 | 00:05:17,380 | 我們撤銷原處分 |
| 00:05:17,880 | 00:05:20,380 | 另為適當的處分 |
| 00:05:20,880 | 00:05:25,380 | 很多弟兄痛哭流涕感動的離開 |
| 00:05:26,380 | 00:05:29,380 | 這是我個人覺得我一生裡面 |
| 00:05:29,880 | 00:05:31,380 | 所擔任的角色 |
| 00:05:31,880 | 00:05:34,380 | 非常讓我重視 |
| 00:05:35,380 | 00:05:37,380 | 部長您覺得 |
| 00:05:37,880 | 00:05:39,880 | 空軍權益保障 |
| 00:05:40,380 | 00:05:41,880 | 陸軍權益保障 |
| 00:05:42,380 | 00:05:44,380 | 海軍權益保障 |
| 00:05:44,880 | 00:05:45,880 | 該如何來提升 |
| 00:05:46,380 | 00:05:49,880 | 我個人認為今天部長所報告這些課程 |
| 00:05:50,380 | 00:05:53,380 | 很多費用是沒必要的 |
| 00:05:53,880 | 00:05:54,880 | 應該要遵解 |
| 00:05:55,380 | 00:05:57,380 | 把它挪過來 |
| 00:05:57,880 | 00:06:01,380 | 做這種空軍、陸軍、海軍的權益保障 |
| 00:06:01,880 | 00:06:03,380 | 這樣才是比較實際 |
| 00:06:03,880 | 00:06:05,380 | 委員報告我們的權益保障 |
| 00:06:05,880 | 00:06:07,380 | 已經有一個重大的變革 |
| 00:06:07,880 | 00:06:09,380 | 那是不是請法律師簡要說明 |
| 00:06:09,880 | 00:06:10,380 | 我知道 |
| 00:06:10,880 | 00:06:12,380 | 因為好久沒有通知我開會 |
| 00:06:12,880 | 00:06:13,380 | 不是 |
| 00:06:13,880 | 00:06:15,380 | 所以你們這個變革我當然知道 |
| 00:06:15,880 | 00:06:17,880 | 我故意不講 |
| 00:06:18,380 | 00:06:19,880 | 是不要讓你們為難 |
| 00:06:20,380 | 00:06:21,380 | 而你們卻自己講 |
| 00:06:21,880 | 00:06:23,380 | 因為好久沒有通知我開會 |
| 00:06:23,880 | 00:06:24,380 | 不是 |
| 00:06:24,880 | 00:06:27,380 | 我本來要把這個好的制度 |
| 00:06:27,880 | 00:06:29,380 | 我當時在 |
| 00:06:29,880 | 00:06:32,880 | 空軍全法會跟很多中將少將報告 |
| 00:06:33,380 | 00:06:33,880 | 我說 |
| 00:06:34,380 | 00:06:35,880 | 我們空軍的武器 |
| 00:06:36,380 | 00:06:38,880 | 不如對岸的武器 |
| 00:06:39,380 | 00:06:40,380 | 我們的F-16 |
| 00:06:40,880 | 00:06:42,380 | 不如他們的 |
| 00:06:42,880 | 00:06:44,380 | 艱激的戰機 |
| 00:06:44,880 | 00:06:47,380 | 我們強的就是我們的士氣 |
| 00:06:47,880 | 00:06:50,380 | 我們替台灣打拼的心 |
| 00:06:50,880 | 00:06:52,880 | 所以權益保障非常重要 |
| 00:06:53,380 | 00:06:56,380 | 後來空軍權益保障委員他做到什麼程度 |
| 00:06:56,880 | 00:07:00,380 | 做到空軍在招募空軍機械學校 |
| 00:07:00,880 | 00:07:02,380 | 空軍官校的士兵 |
| 00:07:02,380 | 00:07:04,880 | 是用空軍權益保障委員這個機制 |
| 00:07:05,380 | 00:07:08,380 | 做招生的一個文宣品之一 |
| 00:07:08,880 | 00:07:10,880 | 這是我覺得很光榮的地方 |
| 00:07:11,380 | 00:07:12,380 | 來你請一下 |
| 00:07:12,880 | 00:07:14,380 | 是跟委員報告一下 |
| 00:07:14,880 | 00:07:16,380 | 我是國防部法律司司長 |
| 00:07:16,880 | 00:07:18,380 | 我們現在關於權益保障的制度 |
| 00:07:18,880 | 00:07:20,380 | 在委員當全包委員的期間 |
| 00:07:20,880 | 00:07:23,880 | 這是屬於我們行政規則的內部規範 |
| 00:07:24,380 | 00:07:26,880 | 那我們現在為了要讓他有法律的位階 |
| 00:07:27,380 | 00:07:28,880 | 我們在去年我們已經制定了 |
| 00:07:29,380 | 00:07:30,880 | 一個軍人權益事件處理法 |
| 00:07:30,880 | 00:07:34,380 | 把官兵的權益保障提高到法律的位階 |
| 00:07:34,880 | 00:07:36,380 | 那現在官兵的權保會是在 |
| 00:07:36,880 | 00:07:40,380 | 我們設在我們國防部的地方軍事法院 |
| 00:07:40,880 | 00:07:44,380 | 有權保委員一樣是審議官兵的權保案件 |
| 00:07:44,880 | 00:07:45,880 | 要確保官兵的權益 |
| 00:07:46,380 | 00:07:48,380 | 請問有沒有將領參與 |
| 00:07:48,880 | 00:07:52,380 | 我們現在的委員都是部外的專家學者 |
| 00:07:52,880 | 00:07:54,880 | 沒有我們自己軍方的將領參與 |
| 00:07:55,380 | 00:07:56,380 | 這個就是主要的差異 |
| 00:07:56,880 | 00:07:59,380 | 也就是說權保會委員是一半將官 |
| 00:07:59,380 | 00:08:01,880 | 一半是外部學者法律 |
| 00:08:02,380 | 00:08:04,880 | 所以我們就會意見交流 |
| 00:08:05,380 | 00:08:08,880 | 所以空軍他的權保他的內部很多機制 |
| 00:08:09,380 | 00:08:11,880 | 是我們這些民間的學者 |
| 00:08:12,380 | 00:08:14,880 | 跟中將報告跟少將報告 |
| 00:08:15,380 | 00:08:16,880 | 他們聽進去了去做了改革 |
| 00:08:17,380 | 00:08:21,880 | 而你把這個權益保障完全挪給法律人 |
| 00:08:22,380 | 00:08:25,880 | 法律人對空軍很多內部的管理 |
| 00:08:26,380 | 00:08:27,880 | 根本是員外漢 |
| 00:08:28,380 | 00:08:29,380 | 所以你們 |
| 00:08:29,880 | 00:08:31,380 | 跟委員報告一下 |
| 00:08:31,880 | 00:08:34,380 | 我們內外交流的一個機制 |
| 00:08:34,880 | 00:08:38,380 | 是我們的權保委員是包含各界的專家學者 |
| 00:08:38,880 | 00:08:40,380 | 包含全部是法律的 |
| 00:08:40,880 | 00:08:41,380 | 對 |
| 00:08:41,880 | 00:08:43,380 | 沒錯但是你們沒有將領 |
| 00:08:43,880 | 00:08:45,380 | 我們空軍權保會委員 |
| 00:08:45,880 | 00:08:47,380 | 我今天不是來質問 |
| 00:08:47,880 | 00:08:50,380 | 空軍權益保障委員會為什麼不再開的問題 |
| 00:08:50,880 | 00:08:54,380 | 我是來質詢如何提升士氣 |
| 00:08:54,880 | 00:08:57,380 | 是部長自己請你上來回答 |
| 00:08:57,880 | 00:08:59,380 | 跟各位報告這個很大的差異 |
| 00:08:59,880 | 00:09:02,380 | 當一半是少將中將 |
| 00:09:02,880 | 00:09:04,380 | 跟律師坐在一起的時候 |
| 00:09:04,880 | 00:09:08,380 | 我坦白講我到了空軍權保會 |
| 00:09:08,880 | 00:09:11,380 | 我才知道說原來空軍這麼民主 |
| 00:09:11,880 | 00:09:15,380 | 一個中將願意聽一個小兵 |
| 00:09:15,880 | 00:09:17,380 | 一個士兵在那邊訴苦 |
| 00:09:17,880 | 00:09:19,380 | 我在學界啊 |
| 00:09:19,880 | 00:09:21,380 | 我們助理教授啊 |
| 00:09:21,880 | 00:09:25,380 | 只要副教授教授 |
| 00:09:25,380 | 00:09:26,880 | 我講個笑話 |
| 00:09:27,380 | 00:09:28,880 | 印度來飛修我來一趴會 |
| 00:09:30,380 | 00:09:34,880 | 副教授教授什麼事情交代我們助理教授 |
| 00:09:35,380 | 00:09:36,880 | 我們都要做不敢吭聲 |
| 00:09:37,380 | 00:09:39,380 | 而我們空軍是做到 |
| 00:09:39,880 | 00:09:42,880 | 中將願意聽士兵來訴苦 |
| 00:09:43,380 | 00:09:44,880 | 這個才是士氣提升 |
| 00:09:45,380 | 00:09:47,880 | 這個才是士氣的提升 |
| 00:09:48,380 | 00:09:48,880 | 所以我個人認為 |
| 00:09:49,380 | 00:09:50,880 | 我不是責怪你們權保會 |
| 00:09:51,380 | 00:09:52,880 | 沒有再繼續的問題 |
| 00:09:53,380 | 00:09:54,880 | 我今天是來質詢 |
| 00:09:55,380 | 00:09:56,880 | 如何士氣提升 |
| 00:09:57,380 | 00:09:59,880 | 也就是說讓我們空軍陸軍海軍 |
| 00:10:00,380 | 00:10:01,880 | 他的權力保障 |
| 00:10:02,380 | 00:10:04,880 | 非常的充分合乎法制 |
| 00:10:05,380 | 00:10:06,880 | 每一個人心服口服 |
| 00:10:07,380 | 00:10:10,880 | 我們即使武器比較沒有對岸 |
| 00:10:11,380 | 00:10:12,880 | 那麼的數量多 |
| 00:10:13,380 | 00:10:14,880 | 或是那麼的高科技 |
| 00:10:15,380 | 00:10:18,880 | 我們仍然可以跟他批敵 |
| 00:10:19,380 | 00:10:20,880 | 這是我今天來的主要的 |
| 00:10:21,380 | 00:10:22,880 | 跟各位的訴求 |
| 00:10:22,880 | 00:10:23,380 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:10:23,880 | 00:10:26,380 | 有關我們法律的制度變革 |
| 00:10:26,880 | 00:10:28,380 | 在官兵權益保障的部分 |
| 00:10:28,880 | 00:10:30,380 | 我們再跟委員做個充分的說明 |
| 00:10:30,880 | 00:10:32,380 | 好 謝謝部長 |