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沈發惠 @ 第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第28次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:08,000 | 請教委員 |
| 00:00:08,000 | 00:00:11,000 | 主席我們請高秘書長 |
| 00:00:11,000 | 00:00:13,000 | 有請高秘書長 |
| 00:00:13,000 | 00:00:18,000 | 好秘書長早 |
| 00:00:18,000 | 00:00:20,000 | 我們今天這個排了 |
| 00:00:20,000 | 00:00:23,000 | 本委會排了這個16個法案 |
| 00:00:23,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 基本上就是一個法院組織法 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:29,000 | 跟四個專業法院的組織法 |
| 00:00:29,000 | 00:00:31,000 | 大概就是這些 |
| 00:00:31,000 | 00:00:32,000 | 那這有16個法案 |
| 00:00:32,000 | 00:00:33,000 | 但是裡面就獨缺 |
| 00:00:33,000 | 00:00:35,000 | 我們司法院的版本 |
| 00:00:35,000 | 00:00:37,000 | 我們的版本到昨天 |
| 00:00:37,000 | 00:00:39,000 | 8月3號送進來了 |
| 00:00:39,000 | 00:00:40,000 | 就8月3號嘛 |
| 00:00:40,000 | 00:00:43,000 | 就昨天送到理法院了 |
| 00:00:43,000 | 00:00:44,000 | 終於啦 |
| 00:00:44,000 | 00:00:45,000 | 這個千呼萬喚 |
| 00:00:45,000 | 00:00:46,000 | 是謝謝 |
| 00:00:46,000 | 00:00:48,000 | 那所以這個變成說 |
| 00:00:48,000 | 00:00:50,000 | 所以會變成我們今天列的案子 |
| 00:00:50,000 | 00:00:51,000 | 沒有司法院的版本 |
| 00:00:51,000 | 00:00:53,000 | 那我們希望說這個 |
| 00:00:53,000 | 00:00:54,000 | 我們程序在未來 |
| 00:00:54,000 | 00:00:56,000 | 真的進入主條討論的時候 |
| 00:00:56,000 | 00:00:58,000 | 能夠納入司法院的版本 |
| 00:00:58,000 | 00:00:59,000 | 一起一併討論 |
| 00:00:59,000 | 00:01:01,000 | 不過我看這16個案子大致上 |
| 00:01:01,000 | 00:01:03,000 | 其實大家的方向都滿一致啦 |
| 00:01:03,000 | 00:01:04,000 | 跟司法院的版本 |
| 00:01:04,000 | 00:01:07,000 | 就是有一些部分的差距 |
| 00:01:07,000 | 00:01:10,000 | 差別但是基本上的方向都很一致啦 |
| 00:01:10,000 | 00:01:12,000 | 那這次這個 |
| 00:01:12,000 | 00:01:14,000 | 這個五個法院組織法的 |
| 00:01:14,000 | 00:01:16,000 | 這個草案裡面大概 |
| 00:01:16,000 | 00:01:18,000 | 就是三個重點啦 |
| 00:01:18,000 | 00:01:20,000 | 第一個就是 |
| 00:01:20,000 | 00:01:22,000 | 剛剛大家討論很多的 |
| 00:01:22,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 就是有關於書記官的職等 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:27,000 | 跟這個見證員額的這個比例啦 |
| 00:01:27,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 提高 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:30,000 | 這是第一個重點啦 |
| 00:01:30,000 | 00:01:31,000 | 第二個就是有關於 |
| 00:01:31,000 | 00:01:33,000 | 法警的這個主管的職等 |
| 00:01:33,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 跟法警執勤的權限 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:38,000 | 這大概是第二個方向 |
| 00:01:38,000 | 00:01:39,000 | 那第三個就是 |
| 00:01:39,000 | 00:01:41,000 | 有關違反法庭秩序的這個分級 |
| 00:01:41,000 | 00:01:43,000 | 分級的處罰機制啦 |
| 00:01:43,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 大概我看這一次大概就這三個部分 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:47,000 | 所以我就這三個部分 |
| 00:01:47,000 | 00:01:48,000 | 一個一個來請 |
| 00:01:48,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 裡面這個大方向我們都肯定啦 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:52,000 | 這個基本上這個就是 |
| 00:01:52,000 | 00:01:54,000 | 這個改革的方向是值得肯定的 |
| 00:01:54,000 | 00:01:56,000 | 而且他是 |
| 00:01:56,000 | 00:01:59,000 | 能夠希望能夠讓這個司法校能跟安全維護 |
| 00:01:59,000 | 00:02:02,000 | 這個還有這個人民的訴訟權利能夠同步提升 |
| 00:02:02,000 | 00:02:04,000 | 但是裡面有一些 |
| 00:02:04,000 | 00:02:06,000 | 有一些這個小小的問題 |
| 00:02:06,000 | 00:02:09,000 | 我想應該請這個我們司法院這邊要說 |
| 00:02:09,000 | 00:02:12,000 | 要比較說明比較清楚一點 |
| 00:02:12,000 | 00:02:14,000 | 這個我們事實上在 |
| 00:02:14,000 | 00:02:16,000 | 今年的五月四號 |
| 00:02:16,000 | 00:02:18,000 | 我們就在本委員會 |
| 00:02:18,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 在司法院的預算審查的時候 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:22,000 | 那時候本席就針對這個書記官的 |
| 00:02:22,000 | 00:02:23,000 | 包括職等調整 |
| 00:02:23,000 | 00:02:25,000 | 包括書記官的這個 |
| 00:02:25,000 | 00:02:27,000 | 這個工作壓力缺額的問題 |
| 00:02:27,000 | 00:02:28,000 | 那時候跟 |
| 00:02:28,000 | 00:02:31,000 | 跟秘書長我們有進行過討論 |
| 00:02:31,000 | 00:02:32,000 | 那這個 |
| 00:02:32,000 | 00:02:34,000 | 這個 |
| 00:02:34,000 | 00:02:35,000 | 那時候討論重點就是說 |
| 00:02:35,000 | 00:02:39,000 | 一方面我們今年有調整這個書記官的這個 |
| 00:02:39,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 這個加級啦 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:42,000 | 書記官加級的調整三層 |
| 00:02:42,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 那這個 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:46,000 | 我們目前的這個 |
| 00:02:46,000 | 00:02:47,000 | 書記官的這個 |
| 00:02:47,000 | 00:02:49,000 | 這個面對的案件 |
| 00:02:49,000 | 00:02:51,000 | 是以新北地方法院為例 |
| 00:02:51,000 | 00:02:53,000 | 這個一個平均一個法官 |
| 00:02:53,000 | 00:02:55,000 | 要面對一千三百件案子 |
| 00:02:55,000 | 00:02:57,000 | 這個實在是壓力非常大 |
| 00:02:57,000 | 00:03:00,000 | 那我那時候有就是說我們要有兩個方向 |
| 00:03:00,000 | 00:03:01,000 | 第一個就是法院組織法修法 |
| 00:03:01,000 | 00:03:02,000 | 就是我們這一次 |
| 00:03:02,000 | 00:03:05,000 | 所以終於這個司法院的案子 |
| 00:03:05,000 | 00:03:06,000 | 送到立法院來 |
| 00:03:06,000 | 00:03:07,000 | 這是法院組織法才會 |
| 00:03:07,000 | 00:03:09,000 | 第二個我那時候談了一個重點就是說 |
| 00:03:09,000 | 00:03:11,000 | 除了法院組織法之外 |
| 00:03:11,000 | 00:03:13,000 | 另外在刑事訴訟法裡面 |
| 00:03:13,000 | 00:03:15,000 | 有關於減輕書記官的工作負荷 |
| 00:03:15,000 | 00:03:17,000 | 是要修訂刑事訴訟法 |
| 00:03:17,000 | 00:03:19,000 | 要修訂刑事訴訟法 |
| 00:03:19,000 | 00:03:21,000 | 有關於這個放寬這些筆錄製作方式 |
| 00:03:21,000 | 00:03:24,000 | 減輕這個書記官的這些工作負荷 |
| 00:03:24,000 | 00:03:27,000 | 那那時候這個秘書長也同意嘛 |
| 00:03:27,000 | 00:03:29,000 | 那所以在這個 |
| 00:03:29,000 | 00:03:32,000 | 我看我們在4月23號的時候 |
| 00:03:32,000 | 00:03:34,000 | 我們司法院就通過了這個 |
| 00:03:34,000 | 00:03:37,000 | 這個刑事訴訟法的相關條文的修正 |
| 00:03:37,000 | 00:03:39,000 | 那現在的進度 |
| 00:03:39,000 | 00:03:43,000 | 那個行政院會選中 |
| 00:03:43,000 | 00:03:45,000 | 那有沒有了解 |
| 00:03:45,000 | 00:03:47,000 | 為什麼我們4月送的到現在 |
| 00:03:47,000 | 00:03:49,000 | 已經8月了為什麼還在會選中 |
| 00:03:49,000 | 00:03:51,000 | 有什麼樣的 |
| 00:03:51,000 | 00:03:55,000 | 你們有去了解有什麼樣的法律爭議 |
| 00:03:55,000 | 00:03:57,000 | 我們是積極的跟他們協商 |
| 00:03:57,000 | 00:04:01,000 | 原因我們已經開會開過兩次 |
| 00:04:01,000 | 00:04:03,000 | 那原因在哪裡 |
| 00:04:03,000 | 00:04:05,000 | 他們還是沒有協商完畢 |
| 00:04:05,000 | 00:04:07,000 | 沒有什麼 |
| 00:04:07,000 | 00:04:09,000 | 就是還沒有結束啊 |
| 00:04:09,000 | 00:04:11,000 | 對啊大家有開會啦 |
| 00:04:11,000 | 00:04:15,000 | 開會過程有什麼比較重大的 |
| 00:04:15,000 | 00:04:17,000 | 其實爭執點 |
| 00:04:17,000 | 00:04:19,000 | 爭執點嗎為什麼會這麼久 |
| 00:04:19,000 | 00:04:23,000 | 就是我們這次的刑事訴訟的修法 |
| 00:04:23,000 | 00:04:27,000 | 最重要的是要減輕法官跟書記官負擔的簡化判決 |
| 00:04:27,000 | 00:04:29,000 | 對沒有錯 |
| 00:04:29,000 | 00:04:31,000 | 法務部稍微有點意見 |
| 00:04:31,000 | 00:04:33,000 | 法務部有意見是不是 |
| 00:04:33,000 | 00:04:36,000 | 好這個部分我希望說這個盡快打完溝通 |
| 00:04:36,000 | 00:04:39,000 | 因為我們今天這個法院組織法這邊 |
| 00:04:39,000 | 00:04:41,000 | 這邊如果說我們開始審查 |
| 00:04:41,000 | 00:04:43,000 | 很快的時間內我們能夠讓他通過 |
| 00:04:43,000 | 00:04:45,000 | 但是我們刑事訴訟法修正 |
| 00:04:45,000 | 00:04:47,000 | 你沒有去降低這些法官書記官的 |
| 00:04:47,000 | 00:04:49,000 | 他的工作負荷 |
| 00:04:49,000 | 00:04:51,000 | 實際這個工作負荷的話 |
| 00:04:51,000 | 00:04:53,000 | 這個可能對於現在目前 |
| 00:04:53,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 解決書記官的這些缺額問題 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:59,000 | 恐怕還是沒有辦法全面的解決 |
| 00:04:59,000 | 00:05:01,000 | 這是第一點 |
| 00:05:01,000 | 00:05:03,000 | 第二個就是我們 |
| 00:05:03,000 | 00:05:05,000 | 書記官的這些 |
| 00:05:05,000 | 00:05:07,000 | 我提另外一個小點 |
| 00:05:07,000 | 00:05:09,000 | 我們除了這個修法之外 |
| 00:05:09,000 | 00:05:11,000 | 我們另外同步的 |
| 00:05:11,000 | 00:05:15,000 | 有關於這個書記官的考試的法制 |
| 00:05:15,000 | 00:05:17,000 | 這個司法人員任用條例裡面 |
| 00:05:17,000 | 00:05:19,000 | 第18條第49條 |
| 00:05:19,000 | 00:05:21,000 | 其實他都已經跟現實都已經脫節了 |
| 00:05:21,000 | 00:05:23,000 | 這部分我覺得應該要同步的修改 |
| 00:05:23,000 | 00:05:25,000 | 像是這個我們 |
| 00:05:25,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 第18條說委任書記官 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:29,000 | 應據左列資格任用 |
| 00:05:29,000 | 00:05:31,000 | 這個他裡面的第一項 |
| 00:05:31,000 | 00:05:33,000 | 經這個普通考試 |
| 00:05:33,000 | 00:05:35,000 | 法院書記官考試及格者 |
| 00:05:35,000 | 00:05:37,000 | 現在已經沒有這個所謂普通考試 |
| 00:05:37,000 | 00:05:39,000 | 這個法院書記官考試 |
| 00:05:39,000 | 00:05:41,000 | 現在都已經是司法特考 |
| 00:05:41,000 | 00:05:43,000 | 四等禁用了 |
| 00:05:43,000 | 00:05:45,000 | 所以這部分我們這個司法人員任用條例 |
| 00:05:45,000 | 00:05:47,000 | 18條還擺在那裡都沒有去修改 |
| 00:05:47,000 | 00:05:49,000 | 這個部分第一個我希望 |
| 00:05:49,000 | 00:05:51,000 | 我覺得應該要同步修正 |
| 00:05:51,000 | 00:05:53,000 | 另外第19條 |
| 00:05:53,000 | 00:05:55,000 | 這個書記官的任用資格 |
| 00:05:55,000 | 00:05:57,000 | 有關這個 |
| 00:05:57,000 | 00:05:59,000 | 鑑任職法院書記官升任考試 |
| 00:05:59,000 | 00:06:01,000 | 現在這個都已經整併成司法行政 |
| 00:06:01,000 | 00:06:03,000 | 考試了所以這個法條 |
| 00:06:03,000 | 00:06:05,000 | 都應該要做同步的修正 |
| 00:06:05,000 | 00:06:07,000 | 這個部分我希望說 |
| 00:06:07,000 | 00:06:09,000 | 這個我們 |
| 00:06:09,000 | 00:06:11,000 | 制度的改革我們要 |
| 00:06:11,000 | 00:06:13,000 | 要全面的改 |
| 00:06:13,000 | 00:06:15,000 | 不要說留下一個任用法制 |
| 00:06:15,000 | 00:06:17,000 | 還是留在舊制 |
| 00:06:17,000 | 00:06:19,000 | 這個是希望能夠修正 |
| 00:06:19,000 | 00:06:21,000 | 初一段部分到這裡 |
| 00:06:21,000 | 00:06:23,000 | 接下來來談這個法警 |
| 00:06:23,000 | 00:06:25,000 | 法警的部分事實上我們在 |
| 00:06:25,000 | 00:06:27,000 | 也是本委員會3月30號 |
| 00:06:27,000 | 00:06:29,000 | 我們就那時候有排一個專案 |
| 00:06:29,000 | 00:06:31,000 | 報告就是有關法院 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:33,000 | 法警職權秩序的維護跟法警職權的行使 |
| 00:06:33,000 | 00:06:35,000 | 那個時候我大概就 |
| 00:06:35,000 | 00:06:37,000 | 在這裡也是跟我們 |
| 00:06:37,000 | 00:06:39,000 | 就我們的法警職權的行使 |
| 00:06:39,000 | 00:06:43,000 | 他的法制依據就在法院組織法裡面 |
| 00:06:43,000 | 00:06:45,000 | 那就是這一次我們要 |
| 00:06:45,000 | 00:06:47,000 | 修法的一個 |
| 00:06:47,000 | 00:06:49,000 | 重要的地方 |
| 00:06:49,000 | 00:06:51,000 | 那這次修法我基本上肯定 |
| 00:06:51,000 | 00:06:53,000 | 但是裡面有一個很特別的 |
| 00:06:53,000 | 00:06:55,000 | 我注意到我們司法院版本裡面 |
| 00:06:55,000 | 00:06:57,000 | 就是我們過去 |
| 00:06:57,000 | 00:06:59,000 | 有關法警執行職務的相關 |
| 00:06:59,000 | 00:07:01,000 | 法律依據是按照法院組織法 |
| 00:07:01,000 | 00:07:03,000 | 第23條原法23條第3項 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:05,000 | 其管理辦法 |
| 00:07:05,000 | 00:07:07,000 | 由司法院會同行政院定制 |
| 00:07:07,000 | 00:07:09,000 | 那這個 |
| 00:07:09,000 | 00:07:11,000 | 管理辦法授權之後 |
| 00:07:11,000 | 00:07:13,000 | 第69條這個檢察機關 |
| 00:07:13,000 | 00:07:15,000 | 的準用是第69條 |
| 00:07:15,000 | 00:07:17,000 | 那這個依據這第23條第3項 |
| 00:07:17,000 | 00:07:19,000 | 他授權的管理辦法 |
| 00:07:19,000 | 00:07:21,000 | 就是我們的法警管理辦法 |
| 00:07:21,000 | 00:07:23,000 | 法警管理辦法 |
| 00:07:23,000 | 00:07:25,000 | 之後再授權 |
| 00:07:25,000 | 00:07:27,000 | 第二條再授權 |
| 00:07:27,000 | 00:07:29,000 | 那這次我們要再訂定這台湯高檢署 |
| 00:07:29,000 | 00:07:31,000 | 還有另外這個高等法院 |
| 00:07:31,000 | 00:07:33,000 | 各級法院的這些注意事項 |
| 00:07:33,000 | 00:07:35,000 | 再授權再做注意事項 |
| 00:07:35,000 | 00:07:37,000 | 我注意到這個點 |
| 00:07:37,000 | 00:07:39,000 | 我們這次的修法有一個很重要的 |
| 00:07:39,000 | 00:07:41,000 | 就是我們把原本 |
| 00:07:41,000 | 00:07:43,000 | 現行說用23條第3項 |
| 00:07:43,000 | 00:07:45,000 | 授權那檢察機關 |
| 00:07:45,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 由69條來準用 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:49,000 | 你們這次把他改成這個 |
| 00:07:49,000 | 00:07:51,000 | 院檢分流了 |
| 00:07:51,000 | 00:07:53,000 | 就是 |
| 00:07:53,000 | 00:07:55,000 | 有關法警管理辦法 |
| 00:07:55,000 | 00:07:57,000 | 這個法院的部分 |
| 00:07:57,000 | 00:07:59,000 | 你們就還是 |
| 00:07:59,000 | 00:08:01,000 | 變成你們把原的第3項 |
| 00:08:01,000 | 00:08:03,000 | 從這個23條 |
| 00:08:03,000 | 00:08:05,000 | 之3你們把他拉出來 |
| 00:08:05,000 | 00:08:07,000 | 變成23條之4 |
| 00:08:07,000 | 00:08:09,000 | 訂了這個管理辦法原本 |
| 00:08:09,000 | 00:08:11,000 | 以前要匯同行政院定之 |
| 00:08:11,000 | 00:08:13,000 | 你把行政院拿掉了 |
| 00:08:13,000 | 00:08:15,000 | 也就是說你們法院的部分你們就司法院 |
| 00:08:15,000 | 00:08:17,000 | 自己訂對不對這23條 |
| 00:08:17,000 | 00:08:19,000 | 之4檢察 |
| 00:08:19,000 | 00:08:21,000 | 檢察機關的部分 |
| 00:08:21,000 | 00:08:23,000 | 原本用69條 |
| 00:08:23,000 | 00:08:25,000 | 準用你們現在把他 |
| 00:08:25,000 | 00:08:27,000 | 用69條第4項 |
| 00:08:27,000 | 00:08:29,000 | 要由行政院 |
| 00:08:29,000 | 00:08:31,000 | 或法務部現在兩個案子行政院 |
| 00:08:31,000 | 00:08:33,000 | 定之或法務部就是 |
| 00:08:33,000 | 00:08:35,000 | 檢察機關的你們行政體系 |
| 00:08:35,000 | 00:08:37,000 | 自己去訂法院的部分我 |
| 00:08:37,000 | 00:08:39,000 | 自己來訂有關於你們把法警 |
| 00:08:39,000 | 00:08:41,000 | 這個部分的管理 |
| 00:08:41,000 | 00:08:43,000 | 這個在院檢這樣做分流 |
| 00:08:43,000 | 00:08:45,000 | 你們的考量用意 |
| 00:08:45,000 | 00:08:47,000 | 是什麼因為他們這個植物 |
| 00:08:47,000 | 00:08:49,000 | 上面有具有相當的共通性 |
| 00:08:49,000 | 00:08:51,000 | 他的這些刑務 |
| 00:08:51,000 | 00:08:53,000 | 跟這些權益保障 |
| 00:08:53,000 | 00:08:55,000 | 是不是未來會變成不一致這個部分 |
| 00:08:55,000 | 00:08:57,000 | 你們把這個法警 |
| 00:08:57,000 | 00:08:59,000 | 管理辦法院檢分流你們考量 |
| 00:08:59,000 | 00:09:01,000 | 是什麼 |
| 00:09:01,000 | 00:09:03,000 | 福利什麼這個值得什麼 |
| 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:05,000 | 大家都一致因為這是 |
| 00:09:05,000 | 00:09:07,000 | 管理辦法 |
| 00:09:07,000 | 00:09:09,000 | 沒錯院檢 |
| 00:09:09,000 | 00:09:11,000 | 有共通性可是也有個別的 |
| 00:09:11,000 | 00:09:13,000 | 特殊性法院 |
| 00:09:13,000 | 00:09:15,000 | 是公開法庭那個 |
| 00:09:15,000 | 00:09:17,000 | 檢察署他們 |
| 00:09:17,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 偵查是不一定公開其實 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:21,000 | 光這個的差別性 |
| 00:09:21,000 | 00:09:23,000 | 其實在法警的管理 |
| 00:09:23,000 | 00:09:25,000 | 就有不一樣的地方 |
| 00:09:25,000 | 00:09:27,000 | 所以老實說因為 |
| 00:09:27,000 | 00:09:29,000 | 管理辦法是真正 |
| 00:09:29,000 | 00:09:31,000 | 實務任務的執行 |
| 00:09:31,000 | 00:09:33,000 | 由各 |
| 00:09:33,000 | 00:09:35,000 | 司法院行政院 |
| 00:09:35,000 | 00:09:37,000 | 跟法務部自行就 |
| 00:09:37,000 | 00:09:39,000 | 法警特殊狀況 |
| 00:09:39,000 | 00:09:41,000 | 在管理辦法 |
| 00:09:41,000 | 00:09:43,000 | 仔細的寫早期的 |
| 00:09:43,000 | 00:09:45,000 | 我們只寫管理辦法可是對於 |
| 00:09:45,000 | 00:09:47,000 | 法警有些是管理喔 |
| 00:09:47,000 | 00:09:49,000 | 可是不應該 |
| 00:09:49,000 | 00:09:51,000 | 這是原本的管理辦法是 |
| 00:09:51,000 | 00:09:53,000 | 檢察機關是直接準用法院的 |
| 00:09:53,000 | 00:09:55,000 | 但你們現在把它分開來了 |
| 00:09:55,000 | 00:09:57,000 | 所以我們現在只是在 |
| 00:09:57,000 | 00:09:59,000 | 法警的職權是準用 |
| 00:09:59,000 | 00:10:01,000 | 可是以前法警職權沒有規定 |
| 00:10:01,000 | 00:10:03,000 | 所以欠缺法源依據 |
| 00:10:03,000 | 00:10:05,000 | 這是把它規定清楚 |
| 00:10:05,000 | 00:10:07,000 | 再過來是法警他的管理 |
| 00:10:07,000 | 00:10:09,000 | 已經不是職權了喔 |
| 00:10:09,000 | 00:10:11,000 | 原本是授權 |
| 00:10:11,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 可是因為那個授權不足 |
| 00:10:13,000 | 00:10:15,000 | 那你現在變成說 |
| 00:10:15,000 | 00:10:17,000 | 司法院自己授權 |
| 00:10:17,000 | 00:10:19,000 | 然後檢察機關 |
| 00:10:19,000 | 00:10:21,000 | 自己再授權分成兩部 |
| 00:10:21,000 | 00:10:23,000 | 管理辦法 |
| 00:10:23,000 | 00:10:25,000 | 因為法警管理絕對會有不同性 |
| 00:10:25,000 | 00:10:27,000 | 那與其讓兩院這樣 |
| 00:10:27,000 | 00:10:29,000 | 這個部分 |
| 00:10:29,000 | 00:10:31,000 | 我想是這次修法一個很重要的重點 |
| 00:10:31,000 | 00:10:33,000 | 所以我覺得要說明清楚 |
| 00:10:33,000 | 00:10:35,000 | 但是除了這個以外 |
| 00:10:35,000 | 00:10:37,000 | 你其實授權了現在檢察機關 |
| 00:10:37,000 | 00:10:39,000 | 由行政體系自己來制定 |
| 00:10:39,000 | 00:10:41,000 | 的時候也有你們司法院的 |
| 00:10:41,000 | 00:10:43,000 | 版本跟行政院版本也不一樣 |
| 00:10:43,000 | 00:10:45,000 | 司法院版本是由行政院定制 |
| 00:10:45,000 | 00:10:47,000 | 但是行政院的版本 |
| 00:10:47,000 | 00:10:49,000 | 是由法務部定制 |
| 00:10:49,000 | 00:10:51,000 | 那我們尊重 |
| 00:10:51,000 | 00:10:53,000 | 因為我們寫行政院 |
| 00:10:53,000 | 00:10:55,000 | 司法院嘛 |
| 00:10:55,000 | 00:10:57,000 | 這邊應該就寫行政院嘛 |
| 00:10:57,000 | 00:10:59,000 | 那它要改為法務部 |
| 00:10:59,000 | 00:11:01,000 | 我們尊重 |
| 00:11:01,000 | 00:11:03,000 | 那這個法 |
| 00:11:03,000 | 00:11:05,000 | 我想這個院檢 |
| 00:11:05,000 | 00:11:07,000 | 法警的規範授權 |
| 00:11:07,000 | 00:11:09,000 | 你們把它分流 |
| 00:11:09,000 | 00:11:11,000 | 這個部分我想是未來在審查的時候 |
| 00:11:11,000 | 00:11:13,000 | 為什麼 |
| 00:11:13,000 | 00:11:15,000 | 因為我們現在也還沒有 |
| 00:11:15,000 | 00:11:17,000 | 收到相關的這些 |
| 00:11:17,000 | 00:11:19,000 | 就是說到底這個分流之後 |
| 00:11:19,000 | 00:11:21,000 | 它會有什麼樣的影響 |
| 00:11:21,000 | 00:11:23,000 | 對院跟檢的這些法警他們權益上面 |
| 00:11:23,000 | 00:11:25,000 | 他們未來的這些訓練會不會有影響 |
| 00:11:25,000 | 00:11:27,000 | 好那最後 |
| 00:11:27,000 | 00:11:29,000 | 最後一個部分就是我們這次修法 |
| 00:11:29,000 | 00:11:31,000 | 第三個部分就是 |
| 00:11:31,000 | 00:11:33,000 | 有關於這個 |
| 00:11:35,000 | 00:11:37,000 | 這個妨礙法庭秩序 |
| 00:11:37,000 | 00:11:39,000 | 我們這個妨礙法庭秩序的部分 |
| 00:11:39,000 | 00:11:41,000 | 我們這次也做了修改 |
| 00:11:41,000 | 00:11:43,000 | 過去妨礙法庭秩序是 |
| 00:11:43,000 | 00:11:45,000 | 經制止不聽就直接進入刑罰 |
| 00:11:45,000 | 00:11:47,000 | 直接由刑事處罰 |
| 00:11:47,000 | 00:11:49,000 | 來進行 |
| 00:11:49,000 | 00:11:51,000 | 那現在這次修法變成 |
| 00:11:51,000 | 00:11:53,000 | 改成罰緩先行 |
| 00:11:53,000 | 00:11:55,000 | 罰緩先行就是說 |
| 00:11:55,000 | 00:11:57,000 | 你第一次就是罰緩 |
| 00:11:57,000 | 00:11:59,000 | 那在一年內再犯才進入刑罰 |
| 00:11:59,000 | 00:12:01,000 | 你們這個 |
| 00:12:01,000 | 00:12:03,000 | 修法的考量是怎麼樣 |
| 00:12:03,000 | 00:12:05,000 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:12:05,000 | 00:12:07,000 | 先行法直接進刑罰 |
| 00:12:07,000 | 00:12:09,000 | 直接去刑罰 |
| 00:12:09,000 | 00:12:11,000 | 會造成時間 |
| 00:12:11,000 | 00:12:13,000 | 這個 |
| 00:12:13,000 | 00:12:15,000 | 受制止人 |
| 00:12:15,000 | 00:12:17,000 | 又經制止不聽 |
| 00:12:17,000 | 00:12:19,000 | 當然這個可以可是因為他直接進入刑罰 |
| 00:12:19,000 | 00:12:21,000 | 他是一個冗長的程序 |
| 00:12:21,000 | 00:12:23,000 | 那現在我們改成這樣 |
| 00:12:23,000 | 00:12:25,000 | 是讓法官 |
| 00:12:25,000 | 00:12:27,000 | 他馬上可以刻意罰緩 |
| 00:12:27,000 | 00:12:29,000 | 是可以立即產生 |
| 00:12:29,000 | 00:12:31,000 | 這個一個 |
| 00:12:31,000 | 00:12:33,000 | 嚇阻效用 |
| 00:12:33,000 | 00:12:35,000 | 其實最重要的目的是來這個地方 |
| 00:12:35,000 | 00:12:37,000 | 讓法官可以當庭 |
| 00:12:37,000 | 00:12:39,000 | 當庭就可以產生法 |
| 00:12:39,000 | 00:12:41,000 | 然後他也馬上可以受到這樣 |
| 00:12:41,000 | 00:12:43,000 | 這部分我肯定啦但是這裡面會有一個問題 |
| 00:12:43,000 | 00:12:45,000 | 就是說你這個 |
| 00:12:45,000 | 00:12:47,000 | 因為你們規定要進入刑罰是要在一年 |
| 00:12:47,000 | 00:12:49,000 | 一年內再犯 |
| 00:12:49,000 | 00:12:51,000 | 那你們一年內再犯你們這些 |
| 00:12:51,000 | 00:12:53,000 | 相關的這些罰緩的裁定記錄 |
| 00:12:53,000 | 00:12:55,000 | 這個確定 |
| 00:12:55,000 | 00:12:57,000 | 以後你們有什麼機關 |
| 00:12:57,000 | 00:12:59,000 | 來建置來保存來管理讓我可以知道 |
| 00:12:59,000 | 00:13:01,000 | 你這個這次的到底是不是 |
| 00:13:01,000 | 00:13:03,000 | 再犯這個 |
| 00:13:03,000 | 00:13:05,000 | 我們一定我們會建置一個系統 |
| 00:13:05,000 | 00:13:07,000 | 這是對法官太重要了 |
| 00:13:07,000 | 00:13:09,000 | 一定要建置一個系統 |
| 00:13:09,000 | 00:13:11,000 | 讓這個被當事人 |
| 00:13:11,000 | 00:13:13,000 | 馬上呈現出來 |
| 00:13:13,000 | 00:13:15,000 | 你這個系統 |
| 00:13:15,000 | 00:13:17,000 | 要相配到的建置 |
| 00:13:17,000 | 00:13:19,000 | 要不然你會造成這個 |
| 00:13:19,000 | 00:13:21,000 | 有人被制止 |
| 00:13:21,000 | 00:13:23,000 | 有人被裁罰 |
| 00:13:23,000 | 00:13:25,000 | 他發生的小法律效果是不一樣的 |
| 00:13:25,000 | 00:13:27,000 | 一定要建置 |
| 00:13:27,000 | 00:13:29,000 | 好那其他的 |
| 00:13:29,000 | 00:13:31,000 | 更細節的部分我希望未來 |
| 00:13:31,000 | 00:13:33,000 | 我們在主題討論的時候 |
| 00:13:33,000 | 00:13:35,000 | 我剛所講幾個問題我覺得我們 |
| 00:13:35,000 | 00:13:37,000 | 這個司法院要把它說清楚了 |
| 00:13:37,000 | 00:13:39,000 | 好以上 |