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盧縣一 @ 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:01,300 | 第一委員發言質詢 |
| 00:00:08,260 | 00:00:10,240 | 謝謝 此時有請副主委 |
| 00:00:16,560 | 00:00:20,500 | 針對修法的部分 我有三個問題問副主委 |
| 00:00:20,500 | 00:00:22,500 | 因為我的之前就在關心說 |
| 00:00:22,500 | 00:00:25,200 | 有一個第四條的一個規定 |
| 00:00:25,200 | 00:00:28,060 | 就是原住民生親想要收養非原住民子女 |
| 00:00:28,060 | 00:00:30,060 | 並且要讓孩子取得原住民身份 |
| 00:00:30,060 | 00:00:32,060 | 一定要滿40歲 |
| 00:00:32,060 | 00:00:34,060 | 這個部分我想說上次有討論過 |
| 00:00:34,060 | 00:00:36,060 | 那我現在想知道 |
| 00:00:36,060 | 00:00:38,060 | 我們應用會的態度 |
| 00:00:38,060 | 00:00:40,060 | 因為現在常常遇到 |
| 00:00:40,060 | 00:00:42,060 | 實際上的案例就是說 |
| 00:00:42,060 | 00:00:44,060 | 你結婚20幾歲結婚 結果到30歲還沒有 |
| 00:00:44,060 | 00:00:46,060 | 生孩子的時候你當然會想說 |
| 00:00:46,060 | 00:00:48,060 | 可能想要領養小孩 |
| 00:00:48,060 | 00:00:50,060 | 不過現在過年要40歲以上 |
| 00:00:50,060 | 00:00:52,060 | 我是覺得實在是強人所難 |
| 00:00:52,060 | 00:00:54,060 | 而且大家也都知道說 |
| 00:00:54,060 | 00:00:56,060 | 不認證大概是結婚3年以後 |
| 00:00:56,060 | 00:00:58,060 | 所以說可以領養小孩 |
| 00:00:58,060 | 00:01:00,060 | 不過現在這個規定是希望說 |
| 00:01:00,060 | 00:01:02,060 | 原本可以針對40歲 |
| 00:01:02,060 | 00:01:04,060 | 這樣的一個數字能夠做檢討 |
| 00:01:06,060 | 00:01:08,060 | 跟我們報告 |
| 00:01:08,060 | 00:01:10,060 | 當然你提那個說 |
| 00:01:10,060 | 00:01:12,060 | 3年未能自然受孕這個部分 |
| 00:01:12,060 | 00:01:14,060 | 我們是有些保留啦 |
| 00:01:14,060 | 00:01:16,060 | 因為結婚以後有沒有 |
| 00:01:16,060 | 00:01:18,060 | 那個都是感情什麼 我們不知道 |
| 00:01:18,060 | 00:01:20,060 | 但是經過醫療機構診斷為不孕 |
| 00:01:20,060 | 00:01:22,060 | 這個導致可以去 |
| 00:01:22,060 | 00:01:24,060 | 去朝這個方向去立法 |
| 00:01:24,060 | 00:01:26,060 | 好 現在我們這次的修法裡面 |
| 00:01:26,060 | 00:01:28,060 | 我想說是不是有討論到 |
| 00:01:28,060 | 00:01:30,060 | 我們恆春半島有一群排灣族 |
| 00:01:30,060 | 00:01:32,060 | 沒有原住民的身分 |
| 00:01:32,060 | 00:01:34,060 | 因為他們不想變成平埔原住民 |
| 00:01:34,060 | 00:01:36,060 | 他們確實是排灣族 |
| 00:01:36,060 | 00:01:38,060 | 就是社鼎公園上面那個 |
| 00:01:38,060 | 00:01:40,060 | 我們說Guard的部落 |
| 00:01:40,060 | 00:01:42,060 | 那他們也只想要 |
| 00:01:42,060 | 00:01:44,060 | 變成排灣族 可是這個 |
| 00:01:44,060 | 00:01:46,060 | 無法無據 這個部分這次的 |
| 00:01:46,060 | 00:01:48,060 | 修法裡面有沒有包含到他們 |
| 00:01:48,060 | 00:01:50,060 | 因為現在平埔族群 |
| 00:01:50,060 | 00:01:52,060 | 身分法已經立法了 |
| 00:01:52,060 | 00:01:54,060 | 所以他們按照現行所有的規定 |
| 00:01:54,060 | 00:01:56,060 | 他們就是要透過這個身分法來 |
| 00:01:56,060 | 00:01:58,060 | 轉換成原住民 |
| 00:01:58,060 | 00:02:00,060 | 那如果說他要回到原住民身分法 |
| 00:02:00,060 | 00:02:02,060 | 其實在法條上可能沒有辦法 |
| 00:02:02,060 | 00:02:04,060 | 支持 因為 |
| 00:02:04,060 | 00:02:06,060 | 他會混淆了很多 |
| 00:02:06,060 | 00:02:08,060 | 如果我們修了身分法以後 |
| 00:02:08,060 | 00:02:10,060 | 會造成平埔族群身分法 |
| 00:02:10,060 | 00:02:12,060 | 跟身分法之間是混淆的 |
| 00:02:12,060 | 00:02:14,060 | 事實上會在適用上會有很大的 |
| 00:02:14,060 | 00:02:16,060 | 這個憾格 |
| 00:02:16,060 | 00:02:18,060 | 好 第二個問題就是 |
| 00:02:18,060 | 00:02:20,060 | 我們講到民主議會 |
| 00:02:20,060 | 00:02:22,060 | 因為我們的回應是說法治尚未完備 |
| 00:02:22,060 | 00:02:24,060 | 那我想說是不是應該盤點 |
| 00:02:24,060 | 00:02:26,060 | 民主議會 |
| 00:02:26,060 | 00:02:28,060 | 或是類似的組織的運作現況 |
| 00:02:28,060 | 00:02:30,060 | 提出分族諮商及法治化的 |
| 00:02:30,060 | 00:02:32,060 | 一個期程 而不是一直在 |
| 00:02:32,060 | 00:02:34,060 | 看等待他們到底什麼時候可以完備 |
| 00:02:34,060 | 00:02:36,060 | 現在民主議會 |
| 00:02:36,060 | 00:02:38,060 | 事實上有幾個族群有成立 |
| 00:02:38,060 | 00:02:40,060 | 他們也在進行 |
| 00:02:40,060 | 00:02:42,060 | 那事實上我們也在收集他們在 |
| 00:02:42,060 | 00:02:44,060 | 這個過程裡面的相關的 |
| 00:02:44,060 | 00:02:46,060 | 經驗 甚至他們處理的事務 |
| 00:02:46,060 | 00:02:48,060 | 這個會 |
| 00:02:48,060 | 00:02:50,060 | 所以可以協助我們在未來我們要 |
| 00:02:50,060 | 00:02:52,060 | 在民主議會要立法的話 |
| 00:02:52,060 | 00:02:54,060 | 有一些參考依據 |
| 00:02:54,060 | 00:02:56,060 | 他的程序 他的內容 他的權責是什麼 |
| 00:02:56,060 | 00:02:58,060 | 我想都是很好的一個 |
| 00:02:58,060 | 00:03:00,060 | 經驗的借鏡 |
| 00:03:00,060 | 00:03:02,060 | 所以我才看目前特別好的就是 |
| 00:03:02,060 | 00:03:04,060 | 盧凱跟排灣嘛 那如果他們做得特別好的話 |
| 00:03:04,060 | 00:03:06,060 | 是不是可以做其他主委的一個參考 |
| 00:03:06,060 | 00:03:08,060 | 的確 |
| 00:03:08,060 | 00:03:10,060 | 像那個務台的盧凱 |
| 00:03:10,060 | 00:03:12,060 | 族群議會就非常的完整 |
| 00:03:12,060 | 00:03:14,060 | 那文化 |
| 00:03:14,060 | 00:03:16,060 | 另外一個問題就是說文化產業 |
| 00:03:16,060 | 00:03:18,060 | 法律上可以申請租稅的減免 |
| 00:03:18,060 | 00:03:20,060 | 可是不代表實際上 |
| 00:03:20,060 | 00:03:22,060 | 民主民主的這些產業 |
| 00:03:22,060 | 00:03:24,060 | 實際上可以申請得到 |
| 00:03:24,060 | 00:03:26,060 | 所以是不是原文會應該會跟文化 |
| 00:03:26,060 | 00:03:28,060 | 不才進步提出申請的建樹 |
| 00:03:28,060 | 00:03:30,060 | 合組入宮主要的站內 |
| 00:03:30,060 | 00:03:32,060 | 然後設這個單一的一個福島的窗口 |
| 00:03:32,060 | 00:03:34,060 | 這原先建設我們是在講 |
| 00:03:34,060 | 00:03:36,060 | 百億的基金喔 如果不設基金的話 |
| 00:03:36,060 | 00:03:38,060 | 是不是原文會應該提出同等功能 |
| 00:03:38,060 | 00:03:40,060 | 那個替代方案 |
| 00:03:40,060 | 00:03:42,060 | 各部會分散在交通 水利 通訊 |
| 00:03:42,060 | 00:03:44,060 | 環境 公共設施這些計畫整合起來 |
| 00:03:44,060 | 00:03:46,060 | 然後接著跨年度的需求 |
| 00:03:46,060 | 00:03:48,060 | 清測裁員跟追蹤的機制 |
| 00:03:48,060 | 00:03:50,060 | 然後就是說 |
| 00:03:50,060 | 00:03:52,060 | 用那個不能接受基金 |
| 00:03:52,060 | 00:03:54,060 | 這兩個字的這個來否定 |
| 00:03:54,060 | 00:03:56,060 | 我們目前想要做的這個規劃 |
| 00:03:56,060 | 00:03:58,060 | 委員提的這些草案 |
| 00:03:58,060 | 00:04:00,060 | 我們都尊重 但是裡面有一些可能 |
| 00:04:00,060 | 00:04:02,060 | 涉及到其他部會還有 |
| 00:04:02,060 | 00:04:04,060 | 裁員的部分 事實上 |
| 00:04:04,060 | 00:04:06,060 | 會裡面不能夠直接的所認為 |
| 00:04:06,060 | 00:04:08,060 | 他是可行或不可行 那另外也有這個 |
| 00:04:08,060 | 00:04:10,060 | 我們的財政收支法 |
| 00:04:10,060 | 00:04:12,060 | 或者是我們的那個 |
| 00:04:12,060 | 00:04:14,060 | 財政的條例相關的 |
| 00:04:14,060 | 00:04:16,060 | 你要在法律裡面 |
| 00:04:16,060 | 00:04:18,060 | 明定你的金額 |
| 00:04:18,060 | 00:04:20,060 | 你必須要有來源 |
| 00:04:20,060 | 00:04:22,060 | 我想這些都是相關的目的事業主管 |
| 00:04:22,060 | 00:04:24,060 | 主管的法規啦 我們尊重啦 |
| 00:04:24,060 | 00:04:26,060 | 但是待會協調看看他們的意見怎麼樣 |
| 00:04:26,060 | 00:04:28,060 | 好 最後就是講到那個 |
| 00:04:28,060 | 00:04:30,060 | 原住民的諮商的同意權的部分 |
| 00:04:30,060 | 00:04:32,060 | 因為我們12年的 |
| 00:04:32,060 | 00:04:34,060 | 最高法律的487號判決 |
| 00:04:34,060 | 00:04:36,060 | 就指出原住民傳統離根 |
| 00:04:36,060 | 00:04:38,060 | 不信公有跟私有嘛 |
| 00:04:38,060 | 00:04:40,060 | 那我想說 |
| 00:04:40,060 | 00:04:42,060 | 目前常常聽到就是 |
| 00:04:42,060 | 00:04:44,060 | 宜蘭啊 或是哪裡要開發地熱啊 |
| 00:04:44,060 | 00:04:46,060 | 或者是採礦 然後常常引起 |
| 00:04:46,060 | 00:04:48,060 | 不樂的一些紛爭 甚至 |
| 00:04:48,060 | 00:04:50,060 | 上次還產生一個罷免村長的一個 |
| 00:04:50,060 | 00:04:52,060 | 動作 我就是覺得說 |
| 00:04:52,060 | 00:04:54,060 | 你會準備何時提出私有土地開發 |
| 00:04:54,060 | 00:04:56,060 | 希望分級標準跟具體判斷 |
| 00:04:56,060 | 00:04:58,060 | 那個指標 那什麼時候來 |
| 00:04:58,060 | 00:05:00,060 | 檢討原住民土土地跟不樂範圍 |
| 00:05:00,060 | 00:05:02,060 | 土地化釋的辦法相關的 |
| 00:05:02,060 | 00:05:04,060 | 行政規章 在新的制度 |
| 00:05:04,060 | 00:05:06,060 | 完成以前 如果對方政府 |
| 00:05:06,060 | 00:05:08,060 | 其實他不會收到私有土地上的 |
| 00:05:08,060 | 00:05:10,060 | 開發申請 我們要依據審慮的標準判斷 |
| 00:05:10,060 | 00:05:12,060 | 是否涉及傳統 |
| 00:05:12,060 | 00:05:14,060 | 理念哪些不樂是屬於關係 |
| 00:05:14,060 | 00:05:16,060 | 不樂 然後啟動何種 |
| 00:05:16,060 | 00:05:18,060 | 資商的程序 我是想說 |
| 00:05:18,060 | 00:05:20,060 | 應該有一個三個層級的研議 |
| 00:05:20,060 | 00:05:22,060 | 那我想說採礦啊 |
| 00:05:22,060 | 00:05:24,060 | 廢棄物處理 能源設施 |
| 00:05:24,060 | 00:05:26,060 | 大規模土地開發 重大土地 |
| 00:05:26,060 | 00:05:28,060 | 的一些高影響的案件 |
| 00:05:28,060 | 00:05:30,060 | 是不是應該就要進行 |
| 00:05:30,060 | 00:05:32,060 | 完整的資商跟不樂同意 |
| 00:05:32,060 | 00:05:34,060 | 如果是可能 只是可能影響 |
| 00:05:34,060 | 00:05:36,060 | 不樂文化 環境 傳統利用 |
| 00:05:36,060 | 00:05:38,060 | 跟生計的一些針對影響案件 |
| 00:05:38,060 | 00:05:40,060 | 是不是就完成資訊公開 |
| 00:05:40,060 | 00:05:42,060 | 實質資商參與決策 |
| 00:05:42,060 | 00:05:44,060 | 跟利益分享這些 |
| 00:05:44,060 | 00:05:46,060 | 動作就可以了 那一般 |
| 00:05:46,060 | 00:05:48,060 | 住宅的休散 小規模 |
| 00:05:48,060 | 00:05:50,060 | 的農作 或是對不樂影響 |
| 00:05:50,060 | 00:05:52,060 | 輕盈的日常使用 就我們就 |
| 00:05:52,060 | 00:05:54,060 | 簡化他的程序跟合理排除 |
| 00:05:54,060 | 00:05:56,060 | 我想說 委員會是不是 |
| 00:05:56,060 | 00:05:58,060 | 應該 應該要去 |
| 00:05:58,060 | 00:06:00,060 | 做一個類似像讓對方政府 |
| 00:06:00,060 | 00:06:02,060 | 經濟部 環境部 能源部這些 |
| 00:06:02,060 | 00:06:04,060 | 機關有所依循 而不是說 |
| 00:06:04,060 | 00:06:06,060 | 讓各個機關做各自的解讀 |
| 00:06:06,060 | 00:06:08,060 | 同樣的案件出現不同的標準 |
| 00:06:08,060 | 00:06:10,060 | 然後再又通過花很多的時間 |
| 00:06:10,060 | 00:06:12,060 | 一次一次的走進法院 |
| 00:06:12,060 | 00:06:14,060 | 才能夠爭取 本來就應該 |
| 00:06:14,060 | 00:06:16,060 | 收到一個保障 |
| 00:06:16,060 | 00:06:18,060 | 謝謝委員的提點 那剛 |
| 00:06:18,060 | 00:06:20,060 | 委員提的這麼多 我想有一個 |
| 00:06:20,060 | 00:06:22,060 | 資商同意的部分 事實上這個 |
| 00:06:22,060 | 00:06:24,060 | 辦法我們也在研修中 |
| 00:06:24,060 | 00:06:26,060 | 那也在最後的階段 |
| 00:06:26,060 | 00:06:28,060 | 那馬上就會做對外的這個公布 |
| 00:06:28,060 | 00:06:30,060 | 那另外 有關於這個土地 |
| 00:06:30,060 | 00:06:32,060 | 公司有這個涉及到 |
| 00:06:32,060 | 00:06:34,060 | 可能是法律未接的部分 我想我們尊重 |
| 00:06:34,060 | 00:06:36,060 | 大院的審議 但這裡面 |
| 00:06:36,060 | 00:06:38,060 | 也會跟憲法有一些 |
| 00:06:38,060 | 00:06:40,060 | 保障人民財產權的部分 |
| 00:06:40,060 | 00:06:42,060 | 另外相關民法可能 |
| 00:06:42,060 | 00:06:44,060 | 都有需要討論的空間 |
| 00:06:44,060 | 00:06:46,060 | 那我們也尊重業務主管 |
| 00:06:46,060 | 00:06:48,060 | 請問他們的意見 以上 |
| 00:06:48,060 | 00:06:50,060 | 那還是希望那個 我們部落資商 |
| 00:06:50,060 | 00:06:52,060 | 同意能夠做分級的規劃能夠早一點進行 |
| 00:06:52,060 | 00:06:54,060 | 那請副座委 |
| 00:06:54,060 | 00:06:56,060 | 請我們馬洛斯 |
| 00:07:03,060 | 00:07:05,060 | 馬洛斯委員好 |
| 00:07:05,060 | 00:07:07,060 | 就是我針對防災安全通訊延當 |
| 00:07:07,060 | 00:07:09,060 | 六年半更合約的 |
| 00:07:09,060 | 00:07:11,060 | 管理書 是這個部分你有了解嗎 |
| 00:07:11,060 | 00:07:13,060 | 有 |
| 00:07:13,060 | 00:07:15,060 | 那我要稍微跟 |
| 00:07:15,060 | 00:07:17,060 | 委員補充就是說 其實 |
| 00:07:17,060 | 00:07:19,060 | 我們原本規劃的 |
| 00:07:19,060 | 00:07:21,060 | 37站 其實已經完成了 |
| 00:07:21,060 | 00:07:23,060 | 32站 |
| 00:07:23,060 | 00:07:25,060 | 那執行率是86% |
| 00:07:25,060 | 00:07:27,060 | 那所以在 |
| 00:07:27,060 | 00:07:29,060 | 收聽的覆蓋率 其實是 |
| 00:07:29,060 | 00:07:31,060 | 沒有問題 那現在就是 |
| 00:07:31,060 | 00:07:33,060 | 我們目前今天所要報告的是 |
| 00:07:33,060 | 00:07:35,060 | 有關於訊號源的補充 |
| 00:07:35,060 | 00:07:37,060 | 所以在收聽的部分 |
| 00:07:37,060 | 00:07:39,060 | 應該是 |
| 00:07:39,060 | 00:07:41,060 | 如期 逐漸在完成當中 |
| 00:07:41,060 | 00:07:43,060 | 想說這邊有寫說完成率 |
| 00:07:43,060 | 00:07:45,060 | 就是15%就是東河 |
| 00:07:45,060 | 00:07:47,060 | 海端跟山永嘛 |
| 00:07:47,060 | 00:07:49,060 | 那我想說這個原民會跟原委會 |
| 00:07:49,060 | 00:07:51,060 | 在長達六年半中 旅遊的差合 |
| 00:07:51,060 | 00:07:53,060 | 跟廣口的一個夜景制度 |
| 00:07:53,060 | 00:07:55,060 | 是不是有很大的缺失呢 |
| 00:07:55,060 | 00:07:57,060 | 我們也跟 |
| 00:07:57,060 | 00:07:59,060 | 主管機關有做回報 |
| 00:07:59,060 | 00:08:01,060 | 那特別是這個廠商 |
| 00:08:01,060 | 00:08:03,060 | 他一直不履約 |
| 00:08:03,060 | 00:08:05,060 | 那另外就是說還延宕 |
| 00:08:05,060 | 00:08:07,060 | 很多的行政作業 |
| 00:08:07,060 | 00:08:09,060 | 那我們也對這個廠商 |
| 00:08:09,060 | 00:08:11,060 | 即將去宣告他的 |
| 00:08:11,060 | 00:08:13,060 | 不良廠商的資料 所以在 |
| 00:08:13,060 | 00:08:15,060 | 這個部分我們會再加強進度 |
| 00:08:15,060 | 00:08:17,060 | 廖醫生 市委員的預算就是說 |
| 00:08:17,060 | 00:08:19,060 | 可能在科目的流用跟 |
| 00:08:19,060 | 00:08:21,060 | 財政紀律跟司法性的爭議 |
| 00:08:21,060 | 00:08:23,060 | 我這邊看到是不是 |
| 00:08:23,060 | 00:08:25,060 | 真正跟主委相關的是 |
| 00:08:25,060 | 00:08:27,060 | 只有10.74% |
| 00:08:27,060 | 00:08:29,060 | 流用的部分比如說像 |
| 00:08:29,060 | 00:08:31,060 | 活動策劃 硬體 |
| 00:08:31,060 | 00:08:33,059 | 這些國際交流跟接待 |
| 00:08:33,059 | 00:08:35,059 | 甚至是高達了89.26% |
| 00:08:35,059 | 00:08:37,059 | 我是覺得說我們這個部分 |
| 00:08:37,059 | 00:08:39,059 | 是不是應該要 |
| 00:08:39,059 | 00:08:41,059 | 提出一個合理性跟 |
| 00:08:41,059 | 00:08:43,059 | 司法性的加按調查 |
| 00:08:43,059 | 00:08:45,060 | 然後讓這個我們應該 |
| 00:08:45,060 | 00:08:47,060 | 要回歸到正常不是應該流用 |
| 00:08:47,060 | 00:08:49,060 | 應該用在語言發展的呢 |
| 00:08:49,060 | 00:08:51,060 | 卻變成 |
| 00:08:51,060 | 00:08:53,060 | 要用來做這些 |
| 00:08:53,060 | 00:08:55,060 | 大型賽事這個硬體跟接待費用 |
| 00:08:55,060 | 00:08:57,060 | 但是我覺得這個部分是不是 |
| 00:08:57,060 | 00:08:59,060 | 有跟主管機關做過溝通 |
| 00:08:59,060 | 00:09:01,060 | 是 報告委員 |
| 00:09:01,060 | 00:09:03,060 | 這個部分我們會精益求精 |
| 00:09:03,060 | 00:09:05,060 | 再去做相關 |
| 00:09:05,060 | 00:09:07,060 | 執行上的調整 |
| 00:09:07,060 | 00:09:09,060 | 那要跟委員報告的是 |
| 00:09:09,060 | 00:09:11,060 | 國語方案它很大的 |
| 00:09:11,060 | 00:09:13,060 | 一個部分是對主語的行銷 |
| 00:09:13,060 | 00:09:15,060 | 所以除了 |
| 00:09:15,060 | 00:09:17,060 | 電視的自播產製 |
| 00:09:17,060 | 00:09:19,060 | 時速之外還包括怎麼樣 |
| 00:09:19,060 | 00:09:21,060 | 行銷主語 所以在這一塊 |
| 00:09:21,060 | 00:09:23,060 | 我們也很重視 |
| 00:09:23,060 | 00:09:25,060 | 國語方案它強調的是 |
| 00:09:25,060 | 00:09:27,060 | 用新的策略去推動 |
| 00:09:27,060 | 00:09:29,060 | 主語的推廣 |
| 00:09:29,060 | 00:09:31,060 | 所以在這一塊我們會精益求精 |
| 00:09:31,060 | 00:09:33,060 | 謝謝委員 |
| 00:09:53,060 | 00:09:55,060 | 國際課票 |
| 00:10:23,060 | 00:10:25,060 | 預算海陸計畫是不是就這樣子 |
| 00:10:25,060 | 00:10:27,060 | 你覺得是付出流水呢 |
| 00:10:27,060 | 00:10:29,060 | 還是就像你們原本會 |
| 00:10:29,060 | 00:10:31,060 | 原本台所呈現的好幾千個讚的一個 |
| 00:10:31,060 | 00:10:33,060 | 得到的一個讚美呢 你怎麼 |
| 00:10:33,060 | 00:10:35,060 | 做取捨 |
| 00:10:35,060 | 00:10:37,060 | 是 謝謝委員的詢問 |
| 00:10:37,060 | 00:10:39,060 | 那我們的這個 |
| 00:10:39,060 | 00:10:41,060 | 航海計畫有一個部分很大的 |
| 00:10:41,060 | 00:10:43,060 | 預算分佈是在 |
| 00:10:43,060 | 00:10:45,060 | 詔州的部分 |
| 00:10:45,060 | 00:10:47,060 | 那我們採購的是島上 |
| 00:10:47,060 | 00:10:49,060 | 族人各個家族的數目 |
| 00:10:49,060 | 00:10:51,060 | 不是從台灣買的 |
| 00:10:51,060 | 00:10:53,060 | 所以我們讓整個利用 |
| 00:10:53,060 | 00:10:55,060 | 文化的利用 |
| 00:10:55,060 | 00:10:57,060 | 這個財產的利用 |
| 00:10:57,060 | 00:10:59,060 | 回到部落 那另外就是我們 |
| 00:10:59,060 | 00:11:01,060 | 划船的選手 那也從 |
| 00:11:01,060 | 00:11:03,060 | 六個部落去挑選 |
| 00:11:03,060 | 00:11:05,060 | 然後去支付他的划船的費用 |
| 00:11:05,060 | 00:11:07,060 | 所以在整體預算 |
| 00:11:07,060 | 00:11:09,060 | 上我們覺得還算是 |
| 00:11:09,060 | 00:11:11,060 | 合理而且是達到他的 |
| 00:11:11,060 | 00:11:13,060 | 效果 那我是覺得是這次應該 |
| 00:11:13,060 | 00:11:15,060 | 要檢討的就是你們可能沒有去 |
| 00:11:15,060 | 00:11:17,060 | 真正的去跟我們 |
| 00:11:17,060 | 00:11:19,060 | 海洋委員會 交通部航管局 |
| 00:11:19,060 | 00:11:21,060 | 做一些我們航行 |
| 00:11:21,060 | 00:11:23,060 | 安全的管理跟跨部會的一個 |
| 00:11:23,060 | 00:11:25,060 | 應變的機制指引 |
| 00:11:25,060 | 00:11:27,060 | 那我想說以後如果你們要再做這些的話 |
| 00:11:27,060 | 00:11:29,060 | 是不是應該要再更嚴謹一點 |
| 00:11:29,060 | 00:11:31,060 | 不要到這明明是一個很好的文化 |
| 00:11:31,060 | 00:11:33,060 | 的交流 就到這就是一這樣的 |
| 00:11:33,060 | 00:11:35,060 | 一個所謂的不是那麼 |
| 00:11:35,060 | 00:11:37,060 | 好看的一個據點 讓國有 |
| 00:11:37,060 | 00:11:39,060 | 會覺得說你們這樣的一個能力 |
| 00:11:39,060 | 00:11:41,060 | 是不是就有點白費 |
| 00:11:41,060 | 00:11:43,060 | 是 就像委員 |
| 00:11:43,060 | 00:11:45,060 | 提到的就是說氣候的 |
| 00:11:45,060 | 00:11:47,060 | 掌握可能在未來 |
| 00:11:47,060 | 00:11:49,060 | 執行這類的計畫的時候要更強調 |
| 00:11:49,060 | 00:11:51,060 | 那 |
| 00:11:51,060 | 00:11:53,060 | 也凸顯了其實 |
| 00:11:53,060 | 00:11:55,060 | 世界的氣候的暖化 |
| 00:11:55,060 | 00:11:57,060 | 跟驟變非常的 |
| 00:11:57,060 | 00:11:59,060 | 強烈 那以前我們的航海 |
| 00:11:59,060 | 00:12:01,060 | 我們的祖先祖父級 |
| 00:12:01,060 | 00:12:03,060 | 可能他的周期性的 |
| 00:12:03,060 | 00:12:05,060 | 航海那不會遇到大 |
| 00:12:05,060 | 00:12:07,060 | 強烈的西南風浪 |
| 00:12:07,060 | 00:12:09,060 | 但其實這幾年的全球性的氣候 |
| 00:12:09,060 | 00:12:11,060 | 確實有影響 那在這一塊 |
| 00:12:11,060 | 00:12:13,060 | 我們會再做講解 |
| 00:12:13,060 | 00:12:15,060 | 我覺得應該要有 第二個就是說 |
| 00:12:15,060 | 00:12:17,060 | 實際想要看到你們的文化的交流 |
| 00:12:17,060 | 00:12:19,060 | 的一個亮點在哪裡 |
| 00:12:19,060 | 00:12:21,060 | 然後現在的一個文化的一個 |
| 00:12:21,060 | 00:12:23,060 | 相同跟差異 還有理念的一個 |
| 00:12:23,060 | 00:12:25,060 | 相同跟差異 我覺得應該 |
| 00:12:25,060 | 00:12:27,060 | 也要呈現出來 只要知道說你們 |
| 00:12:27,060 | 00:12:29,060 | 這次一個活動的真正的目的是什麼 |
| 00:12:29,060 | 00:12:31,060 | 可以讓全世界的 |
| 00:12:31,060 | 00:12:33,060 | 我們原住民都看到 好不好 |
| 00:12:33,060 | 00:12:35,060 | 謝謝 |