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IVOD_ID 170779
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170779
日期 2026-07-30
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-5-15-21
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 21
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 15
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 內政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-07-30T10:40:47+08:00
結束時間 2026-07-30T10:52:35+08:00
影片長度 00:11:48
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委員名稱 鄭天財Sra Kacaw
委員發言時間 10:40:47 - 10:52:35
會議時間 2026-07-30T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第21次全體委員會議(事由:一、邀請原住民族委員會主任委員、文化部、國家通訊傳播委員會、財團法人原住民族文化事業基金會就「『海路-南島語族航海計畫』、『國際原住民族傳統競技文化交流族語節目(世界原住民族傳統運動會)』、『原住民族廣播電臺訊源傳輸及監控系統設備建置與相關基地台設置』等重大計畫執行進度、經費運用及成果認定檢討」進行專題報告,並備質詢。二、「原住民身分法」等11案:(一)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(二)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法部分條文修正草案」案。(三)繼續審查委員郭國文等16人擬具「原住民身分法修正草案」案。(四)繼續審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「原住民身分法第十一條條文修正草案」案。(五)繼續審查委員高金素梅等17人擬具「原住民身分法刪除第十一條條文草案」案。(六)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等20人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(七)審查委員黃仁等19人擬具「原住民身分法第二條條文修正草案」案。(八)審查委員黃仁等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。(九)審查委員盧縣一等17人擬具「原住民身分法第四條條文修正草案」案。(十)審查委員陳瑩等16人擬具「原住民身分法第五條條文修正草案」案。(十一)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等18人擬具「原住民身分法第七條條文修正草案」案。三、「原住民族基本法」等15案:(一)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二條之二條文草案」案。(二)繼續審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。(三)繼續審查委員高金素梅等21人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(四)繼續審查委員黃仁等30人擬具「原住民族基本法第十九條條文修正草案」案。(五)繼續審查委員黃仁等26人擬具「原住民族基本法第十五條條文修正草案」案。(六)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等18人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第六條之一條文草案」案。(七)繼續審查委員黃仁等20人擬具「原住民族基本法增訂第二十八條之一條文草案」案。(八)繼續審查委員黃仁等22人擬具「原住民族基本法第十條條文修正草案」案。(九)繼續審查委員黃仁等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第六條條文修正草案」案。(十)繼續審查委員高金素梅等20人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十一)繼續審查委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等17人擬具「原住民族基本法第十八條條文修正草案」案。(十二)繼續審查委員盧縣一等18人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(十三)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「原住民族基本法部分條文修正草案」案。(十四)審查委員林宜瑾等18人擬具「原住民族基本法第二條條文修正草案」案。(十五)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等21人擬具「原住民族基本法第二十一條、第二十一條之一及第二十一條之二條文修正草案」案。【法案進行逐條審查】)
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transcript.whisperx[1].text 各位委員還有我們就請這個
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transcript.whisperx[2].text 梅莊副組長
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 因為副組長坐很久啦
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 委員好
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 這裡面提到這個
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 真的要去
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 可以
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 那個差距
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 這是絕對不提供給我的
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 中和發展基金的法源
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 這裡面提到我們要修正
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 返還
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 返還
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 我們曾經
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 這個是我在
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 我正好也帶了中央
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 服務
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 才有到
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 數是 淨值是
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 中國將近54億
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 那個副主委
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 106年是民進黨
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 要返還
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 因為是違法挪用
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transcript.whisperx[208].text 因為它不符合
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 18條
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 所以我們只好立法
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 如果有這個100億
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transcript.whisperx[228].text 在都會區的
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 2條的第四項
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 返還
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 本來就有原住民個人的土地
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transcript.whisperx[291].text 不符合相關的法律
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transcript.whisperx[330].text 副主委很重要
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transcript.whisperx[331].text 常務副主委更重要
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transcript.whisperx[332].text 好不好
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transcript.whisperx[333].text 謝謝委員的鼓勵