| IVOD_ID |
170745 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170745 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-15-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
20 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T10:37:30+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T10:57:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:19:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/271ed4367c1fa464ef98e6d6017e68ce512edcc96882cdd163df940a37f6647d20347047a26059635ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王鴻薇 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:37:30 - 10:57:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
(變更議程)立法院第11屆第5會期內政委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請大陸委員會主任委員、內政部部長、法務部、警政署、移民署、財團法人海峽交流基金會就「國人赴陸失聯情況及政府因應作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、邀請內政部部長、警政署署長就「『萊爾校長』小編遭警突襲查水表事件，檢視警察執法標準與行政中立」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 |
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謝謝主席啊 我先請我們內政部部長以及移民署署長 |
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好 |
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好 |
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部長署長 |
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昨天在日本熊本 |
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發生了7.1級的強震 |
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所以大家非常關心 |
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現在還留在熊本的 |
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我們的台灣的民眾 |
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但是問題是 |
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交通部 |
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現在只能夠整理出 |
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就是 |
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組團到日本 |
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九州的觀光團的人數 |
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但是大家知道 |
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大家去日本旅遊絕大部分 |
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都是自由行 |
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對吧 其實參加團的人非常少 |
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所以我想請問一下 |
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76 |
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我們到目前為止 |
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我們內政部移民署有沒有掌握 |
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78 |
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我們目前還 |
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82 |
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滯留在 |
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82 |
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84 |
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這個熊本的 |
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84 |
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86 |
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台灣民眾的人數 |
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86 |
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88 |
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委員好 |
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88 |
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90 |
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這個 |
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90 |
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92 |
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我們在 |
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94 |
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發生我們熊本的7.1的地震之後 |
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94 |
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96 |
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其實 |
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96 |
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98 |
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我們有透過外交部 |
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98 |
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100 |
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去請外交部要來協助 |
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100 |
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102 |
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來協助這個 |
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102 |
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104 |
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我們國人赴日本的 |
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104 |
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106 |
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這個部分 |
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108 |
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那我們也立刻在電腦資訊系統裡面去篩率 |
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108 |
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就是說在近這一周 |
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110 |
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112 |
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裡面 |
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112 |
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114 |
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到九州地區的這個 |
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114 |
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116 |
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熊本跟富邦 |
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116 |
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118 |
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不管是旅遊或者是公務 |
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118 |
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120 |
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就是出境前往那個地方的 |
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120 |
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122 |
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大概有接近兩萬人左右以上 |
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122 |
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124 |
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接近兩萬人 |
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124 |
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126 |
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所以目前就是大概 |
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126 |
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128 |
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你們現在推估有兩萬人 |
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128 |
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130 |
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在熊本 |
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130 |
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132 |
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就是 |
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132 |
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134 |
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九州區域 |
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134 |
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136 |
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就是可能在災區附近 |
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136 |
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138 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
所以我們還是會希望 |
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138 |
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140 |
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因為他們現在可能還會 |
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140 |
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142 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
繼續有餘震 |
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142 |
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144 |
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我們還是要去掌握 |
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144 |
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146 |
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我們台灣民眾不管是基於旅遊 |
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146 |
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148 |
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觀光或者是 |
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148 |
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150 |
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他在這個商務的行程 |
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150 |
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152 |
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更不要說台積電在熊本有場 |
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152 |
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154 |
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我們能夠掌握 |
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154 |
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156 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
謝謝 |
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156 |
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158 |
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部長請回 |
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158 |
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160 |
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請那個警政署署長 |
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160 |
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162 |
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好 |
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162 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
164 |
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部長署長 |
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164 |
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166 |
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這兩天 |
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166 |
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168 |
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在 |
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168 |
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170 |
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大家討論的 |
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170 |
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172 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
就是有關於呢 |
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172 |
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174 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
這個韋淳佑 |
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174 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
176 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
這小編 |
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176 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
178 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
那麼他所製作的 |
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178 |
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180 |
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由不得你的這個影片 |
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180 |
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182 |
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那現在呢 |
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182 |
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184 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
你們已經移送給台北地檢署 |
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184 |
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186 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
偵辦 |
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186 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
188 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
在你們今天 |
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188 |
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190 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
的報告裡面說 |
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190 |
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192 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
他可能涉及的法條 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
192 |
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194 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
包含這個 |
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194 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
刑法偽照文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
196 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
198 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
包含刑法裡面的 |
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198 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
妨害名譽罪 |
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200 |
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202 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
包含個資法 |
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202 |
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204 |
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那我也注意到 |
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204 |
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206 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
這個我們 |
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206 |
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208 |
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部長在接受媒體訪問的時候 |
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208 |
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210 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
說這個是不能接受的 |
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210 |
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212 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
你說這不屬於言論自由 |
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212 |
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214 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
範圍 |
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214 |
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216 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
這是不能接受 |
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216 |
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218 |
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就是啊 |
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218 |
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220 |
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台灣最兩個寶貴的資產 |
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220 |
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222 |
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一個是民主一個是法治 |
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222 |
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224 |
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所以我們政府 |
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224 |
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226 |
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在採取很多的 |
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226 |
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228 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
動作執法的時候 |
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228 |
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230 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
必須要有法律 |
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230 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
232 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
預計 |
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232 |
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234 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
同不同意 |
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234 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
236 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
好那我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
236 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
238 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
在725我們的警察 |
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238 |
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240 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
到韋淳佑 |
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240 |
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242 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
家裡 |
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242 |
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244 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
是希望他能夠 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
244 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
246 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
下架影片請問一下 |
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246 |
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248 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
當時我們 |
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248 |
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250 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
的警察執法的時候 |
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250 |
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252 |
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有沒有告知韋淳佑本人 |
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252 |
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254 |
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或者是 |
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254 |
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256 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
一門的他的父親 |
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256 |
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258 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
你們是根據 |
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258 |
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260 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
什麼法律 |
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260 |
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262 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
來上門要求下架 |
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262 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
264 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
好那 |
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264 |
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266 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
因為這個案件是 |
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266 |
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268 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
檢舉完之後我們 |
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268 |
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270 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
發覺有可能就是 |
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270 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
272 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
高度的AI三維的這個狀況 |
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272 |
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274 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
這個情形 |
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274 |
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276 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
那我們 |
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276 |
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278 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
好我請問一下當時你們 |
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278 |
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280 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
登門的時候已經 |
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280 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
282 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
完成了鑑定了嗎 |
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282 |
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284 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
我們刑事局 |
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284 |
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286 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
登門的時候完成鑑定了嗎 |
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286 |
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288 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
我們刑事局有做這樣的一個判斷 |
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288 |
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290 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
當時你們完成鑑定 |
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290 |
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292 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
你們現在連時序都搞不清楚嗎 |
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292 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
這個刑事局是不是可以 |
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294 |
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296 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
刑事局來做那個 |
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296 |
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298 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
沒有你先告訴我當時你們有沒有完成鑑定 |
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298 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
你上門的時候 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
302 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
我們還原25號當天 |
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302 |
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304 |
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不要把那個 |
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304 |
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306 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
待會再問刑事局 |
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306 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
308 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
所以當天你們學長都不知道 |
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308 |
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310 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
有沒有完成鑑定 |
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310 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
312 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
只是認為這有申委的可能 |
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312 |
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314 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
然後警察去執法 |
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314 |
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316 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
警察執法 |
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316 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
318 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
有沒有告知 |
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318 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
320 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
當事人 |
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320 |
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322 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
當事人不在家 |
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322 |
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324 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
一門的是父親他的爸爸說 |
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324 |
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326 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
我是根據什麼法條 |
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326 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
我要求或者說 |
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328 |
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330 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
希望你把影片下架 |
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330 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
這樣子就是說 |
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332 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
這個是一個沒有強制的作為 |
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334 |
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336 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
沒有強制 |
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336 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
338 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
如果有法的話就可以有強制作為 |
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338 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
所以你現在是警察上門 |
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340 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
342 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
道德勸說 |
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342 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
是不是上門道德勸說 |
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344 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
我先說明一下 |
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346 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
現在這個案是還沒有移送 |
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348 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
350 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
北檢是在做偵查當中 |
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350 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
案件沒有做移送還在偵查 |
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352 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
354 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
第一個 |
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354 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
第二個部分我們 |
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356 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
358 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
發現這個案件是一個 |
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358 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
AI申委的一個狀況 |
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360 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
那很多的這些的影片 |
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362 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
現在我們發現很多影片 |
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364 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
就是仿冒的 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
這些的一個偽的這個帳號 |
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368 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
370 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
我們要去查證 |
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370 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
372 |
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我們要去查證這個是不是有沒有 |
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372 |
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374 |
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這個帳號有沒有遭到冒用 |
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374 |
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376 |
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是一個掀起的一個查證 |
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376 |
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378 |
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的作為 |
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378 |
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380 |
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是不是屬於他來做製造 |
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380 |
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382 |
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的這種情形 |
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382 |
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384 |
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我們很多影片都是因為 |
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384 |
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386 |
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我們看到的這些 |
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386 |
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388 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
學長我問你喔 |
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388 |
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390 |
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如果有人在家中住喔 |
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390 |
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392 |
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他在看電視 |
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392 |
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394 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
或者是正在煮飯 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
394 |
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396 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
警察上門他會不會害怕 |
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396 |
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398 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
他會不會心生恐懼發生什麼事 |
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398 |
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400 |
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我們會告訴他來由不是說 |
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400 |
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402 |
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不是你一定要告訴他什麼法 |
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402 |
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404 |
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我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
404 |
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406 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
我想請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
406 |
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408 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
這個帳號 |
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408 |
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410 |
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部長我請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
410 |
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412 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
來我們聊會部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
412 |
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414 |
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在7月25號警察上門之前 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
414 |
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416 |
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請問一下部長 |
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416 |
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418 |
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有沒有打電話 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
418 |
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420 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
給警政署署長 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
或者是任何的 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
422 |
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424 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
一個內政部的下屬 |
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424 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
然後你說這個影片 |
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426 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
應該要做處理 |
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428 |
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430 |
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你有沒有打過電話 |
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430 |
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432 |
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完全沒有你完全沒有打電話 |
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432 |
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434 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
我跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
434 |
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436 |
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我是在接近7點左右 |
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436 |
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438 |
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問署長 |
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438 |
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440 |
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就是說因為現在媒體 |
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440 |
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442 |
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有出現這個部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
442 |
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444 |
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是不是請這個刑事局或者是警政署 |
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444 |
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446 |
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要發一個簡單的新聞稿 |
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446 |
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448 |
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就只有這件事情 |
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448 |
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452 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
所以當天警察上門的事情你不知道 |
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452 |
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454 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
你完全不知道 |
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454 |
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456 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
來署長請問一下 |
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456 |
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458 |
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在7月25號警察 |
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458 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
去上門 |
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460 |
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462 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
去詢問要求下降 |
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462 |
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464 |
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之前你知道嗎 |
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464 |
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466 |
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完全不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
所以這件事情 |
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468 |
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470 |
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是誰要求的呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
470 |
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472 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
署長這你所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
472 |
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474 |
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我第一聲就是了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
474 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
476 |
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就是部長打電話說 |
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476 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
478 |
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這個有這樣的情形你了解清楚 |
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478 |
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480 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
打給你什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
480 |
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482 |
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就是4月8號之後還是4月8號前 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
482 |
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484 |
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只有這個10點前 |
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484 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
486 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
知道 |
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486 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
488 |
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這個狀況是什麼情形 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
488 |
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490 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
可能要去了解之後 |
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490 |
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492 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
所以你有沒有打電話給台北市警察局 |
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492 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
或者是 |
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494 |
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496 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
就是分局長之類的 |
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496 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
498 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
完全沒有 |
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498 |
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500 |
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那你所了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
502 |
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這個是完全是 |
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502 |
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504 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
刑事局 |
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504 |
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506 |
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他們的 |
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506 |
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508 |
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他們的主動 |
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508 |
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510 |
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案件 |
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510 |
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512 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
另外我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
512 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
我們涉及的相關的法條 |
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514 |
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516 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
其中一個 |
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516 |
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518 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
因為剛才部長說 |
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518 |
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520 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
這是社會不能接受 |
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520 |
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522 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
因為我們在談有關於人民 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
522 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
權益的關係的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
524 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
526 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
這社會觀感是一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
526 |
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528 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
但是法是另外一件事情 |
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528 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
530 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
第一個 |
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530 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
你說偽造文書罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
532 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
這個其實包含 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
沈伯陽委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
536 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
後來在他的罪上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
538 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
他也有發文 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
540 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
也許他也不以為然 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
542 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
544 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
這件事情的行為他也不以為然 |
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544 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
546 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
但是他也講了 |
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546 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
一件事情其實就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
548 |
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550 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
這個是法律的ABC |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
也就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
偽造文書 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
第一個是冒充 |
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556 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
第二個是逐生損害 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
558 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
而且呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
560 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
562 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
是要冒充到有 |
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562 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
有誤信的可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
564 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
566 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
這我們在法條上都 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
566 |
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568 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
很清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
那這件事情他第一時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
570 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
就我是本篇筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
我們用common sense |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
有沒有任何 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
有沒有任何一位民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
看到影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
會誤以為我們賴清德總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
584 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
是本篇筆 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
有沒有可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
588 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
590 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
委員這個案件目前 |
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590 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
是不是牽涉到申委 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
592 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
演員已經在 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
爭吵當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
我們不會對這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
598 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
600 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
這樣的一個個案再去做 |
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600 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
你是不是申委 |
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602 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
你們自己都說 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
604 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
你們已經經過鑑定 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
你剛剛不是經過鑑定嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
好來請教一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
後面這位是 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
請問一下你們是什麼時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
鑑定出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
他是申委 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
618 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
就是是用AI |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
620 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
合成的聲音 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
在整個過程中我們遇到 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
我們接到這樣的檢舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
我們就會同步的了解 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
632 |
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這個帳號的使用人到底是誰 |
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632 |
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634 |
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然後也會做相關的鑑定 |
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634 |
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636 |
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所以我們剛剛委員有 |
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636 |
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638 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
委員有追詢到我們 |
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638 |
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640 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
為什麼去找這個偉兄民眾的時候 |
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640 |
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642 |
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那個時候我們要確定他 |
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642 |
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644 |
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這個帳號是不是他使用 |
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644 |
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646 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
然後我們沒有做任何的強制處分 |
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646 |
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648 |
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我們知道他 |
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648 |
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650 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
後來回電話給我們 |
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650 |
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652 |
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回電話給我們之後 |
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652 |
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654 |
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我們發現這個帳號是他使用 |
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654 |
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656 |
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而且是一個團隊在製作的 |
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656 |
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658 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
那表示當下也都沒有 |
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658 |
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660 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
這個直接到案的必要 |
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660 |
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662 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
所以我們就說 |
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662 |
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664 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
沒關係後續我們就會 |
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664 |
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666 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
我們同步也在做這個是不是 |
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666 |
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668 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
申委的鑑定 |
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668 |
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670 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
好那請問一下你們所謂的 |
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670 |
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672 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
申委鑑定是什麼時候完成 |
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672 |
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674 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
也是當天的下午 |
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674 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
676 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
25號下午 |
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676 |
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678 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
所以你們先上門 |
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678 |
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680 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
後完成鑑定 |
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680 |
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682 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
因為我們就要檢舉 |
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682 |
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684 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
所以你先 |
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684 |
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686 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
你在沒有完成鑑定之前 |
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686 |
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688 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
你就先上門 |
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688 |
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690 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
是這樣嗎 |
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690 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
692 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
我們就是先了解說這個帳號的使用人 |
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692 |
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694 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
到底是真的假的 |
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694 |
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696 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
如果他表示說這個帳號不是他用的 |
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696 |
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698 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
我們調查的方向又不一樣 |
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698 |
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700 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
但是同步我們是做鑑定的 |
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700 |
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702 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
同步你們做鑑定 |
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702 |
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704 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
我要講就是說 |
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704 |
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706 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
一般的老百姓當你上門的時候 |
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706 |
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708 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
你只是問他這個帳號是不是你的而已 |
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708 |
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710 |
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跟委員說 |
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710 |
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712 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
我們當時去找這位 |
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712 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
委先生說我們是跟社區官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
714 |
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716 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
你有沒有讓他下架嗎 |
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716 |
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718 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
我們沒有讓他下架 |
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718 |
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720 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
請主任帶我們去 |
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720 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
讓他進到他的家門 |
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722 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].end |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].text |
你先不要答非所問 |
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724 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].end |
726 |
| transcript.whisperx[345].text |
你們有沒有讓他下架這個影片 |
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726 |
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728 |
| transcript.whisperx[346].text |
我們是說這個影片 |
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728 |
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730 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
有沒有嗎 |
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730 |
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732 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
我們同仁有建議 |
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732 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].end |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[349].text |
他是不是要調整或是下架 |
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734 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].text |
對嗎 |
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736 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
第一個你是說你問他帳號是不是他的 |
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738 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
740 |
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然後事實上你先讓他下架 |
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740 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].end |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[353].text |
然後你又講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].start |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
事實上有沒有鑑定 |
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744 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].end |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[355].text |
是在你上門之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].start |
746 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
才完成鑑定 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
那我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].start |
750 |
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752 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
你們完成鑑定的時間 |
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752 |
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754 |
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幾個小時 |
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754 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
我們現在時間 |
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756 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
758 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
上面原則上是 |
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758 |
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760 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
最長會在四個小時 |
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760 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
762 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
會完成 最長四個小時 |
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762 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
764 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
但是現在的儀器都會很快 |
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764 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
766 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
更快 那看我們影片的 |
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766 |
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768 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
長短不一 所以我這邊要講 |
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768 |
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770 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
就是你們現在 |
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770 |
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772 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].text |
有關於是不是深圍鑑定 |
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772 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
774 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
我們其實討論到很多深圍 |
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774 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
776 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
就包含選舉的時候我們都討論 |
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776 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
778 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
有沒有深圍的問題 |
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778 |
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780 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
深圍問題非常 我們真的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
780 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
782 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
非常重視 尤其比如說 |
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782 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
784 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
你有性影像 所以我們要講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
784 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
786 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
你這種所謂的冒充 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
786 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
你會不會主義讓人家誤性 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
788 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
790 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
選舉的時候 |
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790 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
或者是說有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].start |
792 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
794 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
什麼性的影像 那是更不能接受 |
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794 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
796 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
我們現在有很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
796 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
798 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
過去有很多也是 |
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798 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
800 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
政治性的 包含鄭文蔡先生 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
800 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
802 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
他這個 |
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802 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
804 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
有沒有在飯店私會女性 |
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804 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
806 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
然後這個影片 |
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806 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
808 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
鑑定超過一個月 |
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808 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
810 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
那時候全部的人 |
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810 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
812 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
通通在追 |
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812 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
814 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
現在你說四個小時其實就可以完成 |
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814 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
816 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
當時的羅志正委員 |
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816 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
818 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
也是一樣 |
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818 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
820 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
深陷這個有關於布崖影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
820 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
822 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
在瘋傳 大家也想知道 |
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822 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
當時羅志正委員他在選舉 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
824 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
我們也很怕他被栽贓 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
826 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
被誤會 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
828 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
830 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
大家也都在追 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
830 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
832 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
那時候影片鑑定也是要搞 |
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832 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
834 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
好很久 |
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834 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
836 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
所以你們的影片 |
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836 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
838 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
鑑定時間 |
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838 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
840 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
是選擇性嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
840 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
842 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
另外 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
842 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
844 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
我要特別講 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
844 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
848 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
我說其實一般老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
848 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
850 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
碰到警察 警察是 |
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850 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
852 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
保護老百姓的 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
852 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
我個人我自己很有自信 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
854 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
856 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
我從當議員到現在我都 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
856 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
858 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
非常支持基層的警察 |
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858 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
860 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
但是一般老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
860 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
862 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
碰到警察上門或警察傳訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
862 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
864 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
不說心生 |
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864 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
866 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
畏懼恐懼 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
866 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
868 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
這是不可能的 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
868 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
870 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
那我們從這幾年 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
870 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
872 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
很多 過去影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
872 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
874 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
搞了這麼多法 這些法其實 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
874 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
876 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
來講我覺得都有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
876 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
878 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
什麼 你今天什麼刑法妨害民意罪 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
878 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
880 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
老實說啦 賴總統就去告他 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
880 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
882 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
賴總統 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
882 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
884 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
就算我妨害我的民意 你就去告他 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
884 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
886 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
不用讓你們 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
886 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
888 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
大費周章 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
888 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
890 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
好 那我們一般老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
890 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
892 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
他在網路上說 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
892 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
894 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
陳菊還在嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
894 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
896 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
四個小時不到就被傳訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
896 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
898 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
然後在 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
898 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
900 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
那時候這個超吃雞蛋的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
900 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
902 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
902 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
904 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
他買到臭雞蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
904 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
906 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
放在網路上說我買到臭雞蛋了 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
906 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
908 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].text |
竟然被漏頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].start |
908 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].end |
910 |
| transcript.whisperx[436].text |
徵訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].start |
910 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].end |
912 |
| transcript.whisperx[437].text |
一般小老百姓 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].start |
912 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].end |
914 |
| transcript.whisperx[438].text |
看到臭雞蛋在網路上 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].start |
914 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].end |
916 |
| transcript.whisperx[439].text |
竟然也被漏頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].start |
916 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].end |
918 |
| transcript.whisperx[440].text |
徵訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].start |
918 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].end |
920 |
| transcript.whisperx[441].text |
那之前台大教授蘇宏達 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].start |
920 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].end |
922 |
| transcript.whisperx[442].text |
他應該是 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].start |
922 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].end |
924 |
| transcript.whisperx[443].text |
基本上他質疑這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].start |
924 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].end |
926 |
| transcript.whisperx[444].text |
故宮博物院政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].start |
926 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].end |
928 |
| transcript.whisperx[445].text |
也是一樣警察局約談 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].start |
928 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].end |
930 |
| transcript.whisperx[446].text |
所以即便是一個台大教授 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].start |
930 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].end |
932 |
| transcript.whisperx[447].text |
或一般的民眾 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
932 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
934 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].text |
我要講的是 我支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].start |
934 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].end |
936 |
| transcript.whisperx[449].text |
我們警察執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].start |
936 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].end |
938 |
| transcript.whisperx[450].text |
但是你執法要符合所有 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].start |
938 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].end |
940 |
| transcript.whisperx[451].text |
的法定的程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].start |
940 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].end |
942 |
| transcript.whisperx[452].text |
這件事情你們上門關心 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].start |
942 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].end |
944 |
| transcript.whisperx[453].text |
沒有告訴他你 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].start |
944 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].end |
946 |
| transcript.whisperx[454].text |
違反了什麼法 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].start |
946 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].end |
948 |
| transcript.whisperx[455].text |
另外其他也沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].start |
948 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].end |
950 |
| transcript.whisperx[456].text |
連傳喚通知書都沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].start |
950 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].end |
952 |
| transcript.whisperx[457].text |
那一個 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].start |
952 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].end |
954 |
| transcript.whisperx[458].text |
老爸爸在家裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].start |
954 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].end |
956 |
| transcript.whisperx[459].text |
嚇到要死 發生什麼事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].start |
956 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].end |
958 |
| transcript.whisperx[460].text |
然後怕兒子 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].start |
958 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].end |
960 |
| transcript.whisperx[461].text |
發生什麼事情了 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].start |
960 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].end |
962 |
| transcript.whisperx[462].text |
要被抓起來嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].start |
962 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].end |
964 |
| transcript.whisperx[463].text |
所以我們一直在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].start |
964 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].end |
966 |
| transcript.whisperx[464].text |
這些政治性的辦案 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].start |
966 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].end |
968 |
| transcript.whisperx[465].text |
應該把它減少到最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].start |
968 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].end |
970 |
| transcript.whisperx[466].text |
最低最低 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].start |
970 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].end |
972 |
| transcript.whisperx[467].text |
可是我們一直在講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].start |
972 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].end |
974 |
| transcript.whisperx[468].text |
台灣民主之可貴 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].start |
974 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].end |
976 |
| transcript.whisperx[469].text |
是因為我們有法制 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].start |
976 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].end |
978 |
| transcript.whisperx[470].text |
在後面做支撐 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].start |
978 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].end |
980 |
| transcript.whisperx[471].text |
否則的話如果沒有法制的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].start |
980 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].end |
982 |
| transcript.whisperx[472].text |
你們所有的執法 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].start |
982 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].end |
984 |
| transcript.whisperx[473].text |
會被外界質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].start |
984 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].end |
986 |
| transcript.whisperx[474].text |
你們所有執法會被認為 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].start |
986 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].end |
988 |
| transcript.whisperx[475].text |
違反行政中立 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].start |
988 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].end |
990 |
| transcript.whisperx[476].text |
甚至覺得對特定人士的 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].start |
990 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].end |
992 |
| transcript.whisperx[477].text |
打壓 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].start |
992 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].end |
994 |
| transcript.whisperx[478].text |
我覺得這點很重要的 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].start |
994 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].end |
996 |
| transcript.whisperx[479].text |
不要輕易 老實講我個人 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].start |
996 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].end |
998 |
| transcript.whisperx[480].text |
對於我們很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].start |
998 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].end |
1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[481].text |
司法機關法院跟檢調 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].start |
1000 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].end |
1002 |
| transcript.whisperx[482].text |
我都有很多的質疑 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].start |
1002 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].end |
1004 |
| transcript.whisperx[483].text |
但是我一直都支持基層警察 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].start |
1004 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].end |
1006 |
| transcript.whisperx[484].text |
可是今天 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].start |
1006 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].end |
1008 |
| transcript.whisperx[485].text |
基層警察在你們的 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].start |
1008 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].end |
1010 |
| transcript.whisperx[486].text |
在你們的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].start |
1010 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].end |
1012 |
| transcript.whisperx[487].text |
這個要求下 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].start |
1012 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].end |
1014 |
| transcript.whisperx[488].text |
辦成這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].start |
1014 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].end |
1016 |
| transcript.whisperx[489].text |
難道不該檢討嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].start |
1016 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].end |
1018 |
| transcript.whisperx[490].text |
那我請問一下 局長 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].start |
1018 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].end |
1020 |
| transcript.whisperx[491].text |
所以刑事局 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].start |
1020 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].end |
1022 |
| transcript.whisperx[492].text |
到他 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].start |
1022 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].end |
1024 |
| transcript.whisperx[493].text |
去他家裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].start |
1024 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].end |
1026 |
| transcript.whisperx[494].text |
去問他這些事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].start |
1026 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].end |
1028 |
| transcript.whisperx[495].text |
你事先知道嗎 我剛忘了問你這件事 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].start |
1028 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].end |
1030 |
| transcript.whisperx[496].text |
我們是同仁 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].start |
1030 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].end |
1032 |
| transcript.whisperx[497].text |
後來跟我講說 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].start |
1032 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].end |
1034 |
| transcript.whisperx[498].text |
我接到檢舉去的 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].start |
1034 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].end |
1036 |
| transcript.whisperx[499].text |
他上門之前你知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].start |
1036 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].end |
1038 |
| transcript.whisperx[500].text |
不知道 你也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].start |
1038 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].end |
1040 |
| transcript.whisperx[501].text |
你們現在是全面推給下面 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].start |
1040 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].end |
1042 |
| transcript.whisperx[502].text |
所以就是 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].start |
1042 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].end |
1044 |
| transcript.whisperx[503].text |
這些基層警察雞婆了 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].start |
1044 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].end |
1046 |
| transcript.whisperx[504].text |
我們案件進來我們會有輪值的大隊 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].start |
1046 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].end |
1048 |
| transcript.whisperx[505].text |
他們案件進來他們 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].start |
1048 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].end |
1050 |
| transcript.whisperx[506].text |
就會啟動他們的調查程序 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].start |
1050 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].end |
1052 |
| transcript.whisperx[507].text |
所以程序上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].start |
1052 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].end |
1054 |
| transcript.whisperx[508].text |
就會確定這個影片 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].start |
1054 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].end |
1056 |
| transcript.whisperx[509].text |
他的帳號到底使用人是 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].start |
1056 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].end |
1058 |
| transcript.whisperx[510].text |
真的還假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].start |
1058 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].end |
1060 |
| transcript.whisperx[511].text |
如果是假的又要啟動另外的調查機制 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].start |
1060 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].end |
1062 |
| transcript.whisperx[512].text |
這個帳號是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].start |
1062 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].end |
1064 |
| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
真的假的 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].start |
1064 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].end |
1066 |
| transcript.whisperx[514].text |
還要跑到人家家裡去問 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].start |
1066 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].end |
1068 |
| transcript.whisperx[515].text |
所以我們沒有去我們請地方的同仁去 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].start |
1068 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].end |
1070 |
| transcript.whisperx[516].text |
那不是一樣嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].start |
1070 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].end |
1072 |
| transcript.whisperx[517].text |
那不是一樣嗎你刑事局去 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].start |
1072 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].end |
1074 |
| transcript.whisperx[518].text |
跟地方的派出所去 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].start |
1074 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].end |
1076 |
| transcript.whisperx[519].text |
對民眾來講 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].start |
1076 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].end |
1078 |
| transcript.whisperx[520].text |
感受不是一樣嗎你講話真好笑 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].start |
1078 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].end |
1080 |
| transcript.whisperx[521].text |
我知道委員關心的點 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].start |
1080 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].end |
1082 |
| transcript.whisperx[522].text |
但是我們對於這個過程中 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].start |
1082 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].end |
1084 |
| transcript.whisperx[523].text |
我們也請社區的主委 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].start |
1084 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].end |
1086 |
| transcript.whisperx[524].text |
我們也請社區的主委帶我們去 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].start |
1086 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].end |
1088 |
| transcript.whisperx[525].text |
在整個態度上面我們都是 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].start |
1088 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].end |
1090 |
| transcript.whisperx[526].text |
我們沒有任何強制性 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].start |
1090 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].end |
1092 |
| transcript.whisperx[527].text |
我們沒有任何強制性 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].start |
1092 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].end |
1094 |
| transcript.whisperx[528].text |
那也沒有強迫他你這個影片一定要下來 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].start |
1094 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].end |
1096 |
| transcript.whisperx[529].text |
你不是要求人家下架嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].start |
1096 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].end |
1098 |
| transcript.whisperx[530].text |
我們是跟他講說你要不要調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].start |
1098 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].end |
1100 |
| transcript.whisperx[531].text |
你只是因為 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].start |
1100 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].end |
1102 |
| transcript.whisperx[532].text |
那你誰要求下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].start |
1102 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].end |
1104 |
| transcript.whisperx[533].text |
我們是建議他你要不要調整 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].start |
1104 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].end |
1106 |
| transcript.whisperx[534].text |
或是下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].start |
1106 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].end |
1108 |
| transcript.whisperx[535].text |
我們這麼好心 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].start |
1108 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].end |
1110 |
| transcript.whisperx[536].text |
我們當時這個時間到 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].start |
1110 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].end |
1112 |
| transcript.whisperx[537].text |
我們不要浪費太多時間 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].start |
1112 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].end |
1114 |
| transcript.whisperx[538].text |
有多少這種 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].start |
1114 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].end |
1116 |
| transcript.whisperx[539].text |
什麼製作我們各種各樣的 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].start |
1116 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].end |
1118 |
| transcript.whisperx[540].text |
還在這個在招牌上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].start |
1118 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].end |
1120 |
| transcript.whisperx[541].text |
在馬路上的 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].start |
1120 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].end |
1122 |
| transcript.whisperx[542].text |
要娃娃的臉 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].start |
1122 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].end |
1124 |
| transcript.whisperx[543].text |
然後讓我穿什麼軍服 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].start |
1124 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].end |
1126 |
| transcript.whisperx[544].text |
這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].start |
1126 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].end |
1128 |
| transcript.whisperx[545].text |
我們要求下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].start |
1128 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].end |
1130 |
| transcript.whisperx[546].text |
有嗎沒有人下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].start |
1130 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].end |
1132 |
| transcript.whisperx[547].text |
大半年那個時候 |
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1132 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].end |
1134 |
| transcript.whisperx[548].text |
大半年團體做什麼都是對的 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].start |
1134 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].end |
1136 |
| transcript.whisperx[549].text |
結果這一般 |
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1136 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].end |
1138 |
| transcript.whisperx[550].text |
的老百姓 |
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1138 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].end |
1140 |
| transcript.whisperx[551].text |
就說你就趕快做 |
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1140 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].end |
1142 |
| transcript.whisperx[552].text |
所以趕快把他下架 |
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1142 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].end |
1144 |
| transcript.whisperx[553].text |
你們這樣的執法 |
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1144 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].end |
1146 |
| transcript.whisperx[554].text |
我不希望台灣在 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].start |
1146 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].end |
1148 |
| transcript.whisperx[555].text |
落後倒退到變成是一個警察國家 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].start |
1148 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].end |
1150 |
| transcript.whisperx[556].text |
所以執法非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].start |
1150 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].end |
1152 |
| transcript.whisperx[557].text |
執法我們支持 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].start |
1152 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].end |
1154 |
| transcript.whisperx[558].text |
但是你一定要有法律上的依據 |
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1154 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].end |
1156 |
| transcript.whisperx[559].text |
在這次這樣看起來 |
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1156 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].end |
1158 |
| transcript.whisperx[560].text |
你們在第一線執法 |
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1158 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].end |
1160 |
| transcript.whisperx[561].text |
就是有問題嘛 |
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1160 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].end |
1162 |
| transcript.whisperx[562].text |
否則的話你們應該長官都說對 |
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1162 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].end |
1164 |
| transcript.whisperx[563].text |
就是我我們全部都是依法來執行 |
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1164 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].end |
1166 |
| transcript.whisperx[564].text |
現在你看你們全部都不是我 |
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1166 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].end |
1168 |
| transcript.whisperx[565].text |
這也代表說 |
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1168 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].end |
1170 |
| transcript.whisperx[566].text |
這樣的執法會引起 |
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1170 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].end |
1172 |
| transcript.whisperx[567].text |
人民對司法的 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].start |
1172 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].end |
1174 |
| transcript.whisperx[568].text |
信任好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].start |
1174 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].end |
1176 |
| transcript.whisperx[569].text |
這點非常非常重要 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].start |
1176 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].end |
1178 |
| transcript.whisperx[570].text |
尤其是這種已經是滿滿的政治性的案件 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].start |
1178 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].end |
1180 |
| transcript.whisperx[571].text |
好不好以上 |