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林思銘 @ 第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:02,000 | 請選擇 |
| 00:00:08,000 | 00:00:09,000 | 好 謝謝主席 |
| 00:00:09,000 | 00:00:11,000 | 有請財政部莊部長 |
| 00:00:12,000 | 00:00:13,000 | 請莊部長 |
| 00:00:17,000 | 00:00:18,000 | 委員好 |
| 00:00:18,000 | 00:00:19,000 | 部長早 部長 |
| 00:00:19,000 | 00:00:22,000 | 我先給你探討那個新清安3.0的議題 |
| 00:00:23,000 | 00:00:26,000 | 部長 新清安所得認定 |
| 00:00:26,000 | 00:00:29,000 | 個人年所得上限200萬元 |
| 00:00:29,000 | 00:00:31,000 | 採單一年度認定 |
| 00:00:31,000 | 00:00:34,000 | 這個認定我個人認為是非常的僵化 |
| 00:00:35,000 | 00:00:37,000 | 因為這樣可能會誤殺 |
| 00:00:37,000 | 00:00:39,000 | 因臨時獎金 |
| 00:00:39,000 | 00:00:43,000 | 或者分紅而短暫鈔票的業務 |
| 00:00:43,000 | 00:00:44,000 | 或受新竹 |
| 00:00:45,000 | 00:00:47,000 | 那麼而且我們民間 |
| 00:00:47,000 | 00:00:51,000 | 就是名下無房也不等於弱勢 |
| 00:00:51,000 | 00:00:53,000 | 有專家或者民間團體認為 |
| 00:00:53,000 | 00:00:55,000 | 為此有房屋者 |
| 00:00:55,000 | 00:00:57,000 | 不代表沒有資產或購買力 |
| 00:00:57,000 | 00:01:00,000 | 補助的對象若未全面檢視 |
| 00:01:00,000 | 00:01:05,000 | 家戶的總資產資源分配未必能夠精準 |
| 00:01:05,000 | 00:01:07,000 | 所以請問財政部有沒有機制 |
| 00:01:07,000 | 00:01:10,000 | 避免誤殺真正的手構組 |
| 00:01:11,000 | 00:01:13,000 | 有沒有相關的機制 |
| 00:01:13,000 | 00:01:15,000 | 我想委員我們這一次 |
| 00:01:15,000 | 00:01:17,000 | 所訂的這個清安3.0 |
| 00:01:17,000 | 00:01:21,000 | 也是在2.0執行過程當中各界的指教 |
| 00:01:21,000 | 00:01:24,000 | 然後以及大家認為有質疑的地方 |
| 00:01:24,000 | 00:01:26,000 | 所以我們訂了3.0這個部分 |
| 00:01:26,000 | 00:01:28,000 | 那我們的目的就是協助 |
| 00:01:28,000 | 00:01:31,000 | 沒有自有住宅民眾購買房屋 |
| 00:01:31,000 | 00:01:32,000 | 然後自住使用 |
| 00:01:32,000 | 00:01:33,000 | 來自住使用 |
| 00:01:33,000 | 00:01:34,000 | 來支持青年 |
| 00:01:34,000 | 00:01:36,000 | 來實現他購屋安心成家 |
| 00:01:36,000 | 00:01:40,000 | 那麼對於我們對於協助的對象 |
| 00:01:40,000 | 00:01:42,000 | 必須要做一些精準 |
| 00:01:42,000 | 00:01:44,000 | 也對高所得高知力的人 |
| 00:01:44,000 | 00:01:46,000 | 我覺得這不是我們主要 |
| 00:01:46,000 | 00:01:47,000 | 要去協助的對象 |
| 00:01:47,000 | 00:01:48,000 | 我想這個資源應該用在 |
| 00:01:48,000 | 00:01:50,000 | 需要協助的商場 |
| 00:01:50,000 | 00:01:51,000 | 我們認同 |
| 00:01:51,000 | 00:01:53,000 | 但是我剛才針對我的問題 |
| 00:01:53,000 | 00:01:54,000 | 我的問題我想部長你 |
| 00:01:54,000 | 00:01:55,000 | 我知道 |
| 00:01:55,000 | 00:01:59,000 | 因為你現在把上限設定在200萬 |
| 00:01:59,000 | 00:02:02,000 | 這是一個很僵化的一個限制 |
| 00:02:02,000 | 00:02:03,000 | 是 |
| 00:02:03,000 | 00:02:05,000 | 就是說很可能就會誤殺 |
| 00:02:05,000 | 00:02:06,000 | 我們這些 |
| 00:02:06,000 | 00:02:08,000 | 因為可能一個年度 |
| 00:02:08,000 | 00:02:11,000 | 他因為獎金的議題或者分紅 |
| 00:02:11,000 | 00:02:13,000 | 剛好他這個超過200萬 |
| 00:02:13,000 | 00:02:15,000 | 那是不是你就變成說 |
| 00:02:15,000 | 00:02:17,000 | 他就沒有辦法去這個 |
| 00:02:17,000 | 00:02:19,000 | 就受到這個限制 |
| 00:02:19,000 | 00:02:20,000 | 他就沒有辦法辦理 |
| 00:02:20,000 | 00:02:22,000 | 這個清清安3.0的一個貸款 |
| 00:02:22,000 | 00:02:24,000 | 所以這個就會誤殺 |
| 00:02:24,000 | 00:02:27,000 | 因為我們是以借款人的本人 |
| 00:02:27,000 | 00:02:29,000 | 如果他們是有配偶的話 |
| 00:02:29,000 | 00:02:32,000 | 那其實他可以在兩位中一位來 |
| 00:02:32,000 | 00:02:33,000 | 那我至於您剛剛提的 |
| 00:02:33,000 | 00:02:36,000 | 因為特殊的某種特殊一次性的收入 |
| 00:02:36,000 | 00:02:39,000 | 讓他那一年的收入特別高 |
| 00:02:39,000 | 00:02:40,000 | 我想這個個案的情形 |
| 00:02:40,000 | 00:02:42,000 | 我們在執行的過程當中 |
| 00:02:42,000 | 00:02:44,000 | 也會去蒐集各方的意見 |
| 00:02:44,000 | 00:02:46,000 | 所以我想我們相關的配套還是 |
| 00:02:46,000 | 00:02:47,000 | 就是不要那麼僵化 |
| 00:02:47,000 | 00:02:48,000 | 你這樣太僵化了 |
| 00:02:48,000 | 00:02:50,000 | 如果個案真的出現這種問題 |
| 00:02:50,000 | 00:02:53,000 | 他只是這個年度有超過200萬 |
| 00:02:53,000 | 00:02:55,000 | 就剛好因為分紅的關係 |
| 00:02:55,000 | 00:02:57,000 | 是 好 我覺得委員您 |
| 00:02:57,000 | 00:02:58,000 | 當然這樣一個提醒 |
| 00:02:58,000 | 00:03:00,000 | 我們未來在因為我們的問答集 |
| 00:03:00,000 | 00:03:01,000 | QA都出來 |
| 00:03:01,000 | 00:03:02,000 | 大家都了解 |
| 00:03:02,000 | 00:03:05,000 | 那如果有在執行過程當中 |
| 00:03:05,000 | 00:03:06,000 | 有一些什麼樣的一個情況 |
| 00:03:06,000 | 00:03:08,000 | 都可以隨時我們去了解 |
| 00:03:08,000 | 00:03:10,000 | 那公國航空會反應 |
| 00:03:10,000 | 00:03:12,000 | 讓我們的相關規定更切合 |
| 00:03:12,000 | 00:03:14,000 | 相關又有一些例外的規定 |
| 00:03:14,000 | 00:03:15,000 | 就不要這麼僵化 |
| 00:03:15,000 | 00:03:17,000 | 更切合政策的目的 |
| 00:03:17,000 | 00:03:19,000 | 讓我們的真正的一個 |
| 00:03:19,000 | 00:03:21,000 | 政策可以落實 |
| 00:03:21,000 | 00:03:22,000 | 那委員您當然提到這個問題 |
| 00:03:22,000 | 00:03:24,000 | 那未來的實務發生的時候 |
| 00:03:24,000 | 00:03:25,000 | 我們再來看做一些看法 |
| 00:03:25,000 | 00:03:26,000 | 要去關注 |
| 00:03:26,000 | 00:03:27,000 | 謝謝委員 |
| 00:03:27,000 | 00:03:29,000 | 另外就第二個我剛才提到的就是說 |
| 00:03:29,000 | 00:03:31,000 | 有專家有民間團體 |
| 00:03:31,000 | 00:03:33,000 | 認為為持有防務者 |
| 00:03:33,000 | 00:03:36,000 | 不代表說他就是一個弱勢 |
| 00:03:36,000 | 00:03:39,000 | 所以你補助的對象 |
| 00:03:39,000 | 00:03:40,000 | 如果沒有全面的檢視 |
| 00:03:40,000 | 00:03:43,000 | 家戶的總資產資源的分配 |
| 00:03:43,000 | 00:03:45,000 | 未必能夠精準 |
| 00:03:45,000 | 00:03:47,000 | 所以財政部 |
| 00:03:47,000 | 00:03:48,000 | 你是不是要去定一個 |
| 00:03:48,000 | 00:03:52,000 | 避免誤商真正的手購族 |
| 00:03:53,000 | 00:03:55,000 | 第一個你剛才有提到就是說 |
| 00:03:55,000 | 00:03:57,000 | 如果我們只是單一的 |
| 00:03:57,000 | 00:03:58,000 | 就用兩百萬來做設定 |
| 00:03:58,000 | 00:04:01,000 | 反而家戶可能很有錢的 |
| 00:04:01,000 | 00:04:02,000 | 反而沒有那個 |
| 00:04:02,000 | 00:04:04,000 | 那跟誤殺可能就 |
| 00:04:04,000 | 00:04:07,000 | 我們這個情況下應該是誤給了 |
| 00:04:07,000 | 00:04:08,000 | 而不是誤殺 |
| 00:04:08,000 | 00:04:10,000 | 那我們其實有兩個 |
| 00:04:10,000 | 00:04:12,000 | 第一個除了本人兩百萬的 |
| 00:04:12,000 | 00:04:13,000 | 您所得的之外 |
| 00:04:13,000 | 00:04:15,000 | 還有他購買房屋的總價 |
| 00:04:15,000 | 00:04:18,000 | 也有一個上限的限制 |
| 00:04:18,000 | 00:04:19,000 | 這個目的就是說 |
| 00:04:19,000 | 00:04:22,000 | 去買高總價的一個房屋 |
| 00:04:22,000 | 00:04:24,000 | 表示他本身的資歷跟所得高 |
| 00:04:24,000 | 00:04:25,000 | 那也不是這個政策 |
| 00:04:25,000 | 00:04:27,000 | 要做一個協助的一些對象 |
| 00:04:27,000 | 00:04:29,000 | 所以在這一次裡面 |
| 00:04:29,000 | 00:04:30,000 | 我們除了所得之外 |
| 00:04:30,000 | 00:04:32,000 | 還有購買高房屋的總價 |
| 00:04:32,000 | 00:04:34,000 | 以及加上年齡等等這些 |
| 00:04:34,000 | 00:04:37,000 | 也就是說在2.0執行過程當中 |
| 00:04:37,000 | 00:04:38,000 | 各界的指教 |
| 00:04:38,000 | 00:04:41,000 | 我們都把參考進來 |
| 00:04:41,000 | 00:04:43,000 | 所以委員您剛剛提到的一些 |
| 00:04:43,000 | 00:04:45,000 | 大概在這一次我們的機制裡面 |
| 00:04:45,000 | 00:04:46,000 | 都有把它設計 |
| 00:04:46,000 | 00:04:48,000 | 那各界當然也有意見 |
| 00:04:48,000 | 00:04:50,000 | 可能就是從某一個點來說 |
| 00:04:50,000 | 00:04:51,000 | 某一個點來說 |
| 00:04:51,000 | 00:04:53,000 | 但是要從全面來看 |
| 00:04:53,000 | 00:04:55,000 | 是謝謝委員的指教 |
| 00:04:55,000 | 00:04:56,000 | 我希望說這個財務部 |
| 00:04:56,000 | 00:04:57,000 | 就是一定要針對這個問題 |
| 00:04:57,000 | 00:04:59,000 | 去做相關的一個檢討 |
| 00:04:59,000 | 00:05:02,000 | 另外就是說我們新青海3.0 |
| 00:05:02,000 | 00:05:03,000 | 如果貸款後 |
| 00:05:03,000 | 00:05:05,000 | 因為借款人的婚姻關係消滅 |
| 00:05:05,000 | 00:05:08,000 | 將停止超過新台幣1000萬元 |
| 00:05:08,000 | 00:05:10,000 | 核貸額的一個利息補貼 |
| 00:05:11,000 | 00:05:15,000 | 那這個是為了防止假結婚的一個貸款 |
| 00:05:15,000 | 00:05:19,000 | 怕假結婚後來就離婚了 |
| 00:05:19,000 | 00:05:21,000 | 所以你離婚就去認定說 |
| 00:05:21,000 | 00:05:23,000 | 這個利息就不補貼 |
| 00:05:23,000 | 00:05:27,000 | 但是如果說夫妻是真的失和而離婚 |
| 00:05:27,000 | 00:05:30,000 | 會不會就又錯殺了 |
| 00:05:30,000 | 00:05:32,000 | 他是真的婚姻發生問題了 |
| 00:05:32,000 | 00:05:34,000 | 但是你這個規定就是說 |
| 00:05:34,000 | 00:05:36,000 | 反正你離婚婚姻關係消滅 |
| 00:05:36,000 | 00:05:38,000 | 那我就把這個利息 |
| 00:05:38,000 | 00:05:39,000 | 我們就把你 |
| 00:05:39,000 | 00:05:42,000 | 就不再做利息的補貼 |
| 00:05:42,000 | 00:05:45,000 | 就不再是用青安3.0 |
| 00:05:45,000 | 00:05:46,000 | 跟委員報告 |
| 00:05:46,000 | 00:05:50,000 | 當時就是說青安貸款最高額度1000萬 |
| 00:05:50,000 | 00:05:52,000 | 然後不超過八成 |
| 00:05:52,000 | 00:05:54,000 | 那為了鼓勵婚姻 |
| 00:05:54,000 | 00:05:56,000 | 所以假設我們就先講說 |
| 00:05:56,000 | 00:05:57,000 | 有新婚夫妻的話 |
| 00:05:57,000 | 00:05:59,000 | 那他就可以最高額度 |
| 00:05:59,000 | 00:06:01,000 | 可以在1200萬 |
| 00:06:01,000 | 00:06:03,000 | 那因此我們會有6年的 |
| 00:06:03,000 | 00:06:05,000 | 相關的利息的一些協助 |
| 00:06:05,000 | 00:06:07,000 | 那在這個6年當中 |
| 00:06:07,000 | 00:06:10,000 | 如果婚姻關係比如說失和離婚 |
| 00:06:10,000 | 00:06:12,000 | 6年當中如果婚姻失和的話 |
| 00:06:12,000 | 00:06:14,000 | 那婚姻關係失和 |
| 00:06:14,000 | 00:06:15,000 | 然後婚姻關係消滅 |
| 00:06:15,000 | 00:06:18,000 | 那我們會從他們離婚之後 |
| 00:06:18,000 | 00:06:20,000 | 然後對於200萬的利息補貼 |
| 00:06:20,000 | 00:06:22,000 | 不再做補貼 |
| 00:06:22,000 | 00:06:24,000 | 只是針對那200萬的部分 |
| 00:06:24,000 | 00:06:26,000 | 那之前的不會去追溯 |
| 00:06:26,000 | 00:06:29,000 | 都是一律就是把他收回 |
| 00:06:29,000 | 00:06:31,000 | 什麼叫做假離婚還假結婚 |
| 00:06:31,000 | 00:06:32,000 | 因為你這個目的 |
| 00:06:32,000 | 00:06:33,000 | 我們看起來就是說 |
| 00:06:33,000 | 00:06:35,000 | 防止他為了去離婚 |
| 00:06:35,000 | 00:06:37,000 | 或是去結婚就會去貸款 |
| 00:06:37,000 | 00:06:39,000 | 後來那個貸了款 |
| 00:06:39,000 | 00:06:41,000 | 他就去離婚嘛 |
| 00:06:41,000 | 00:06:43,000 | 所以看起來就是假離婚 |
| 00:06:43,000 | 00:06:45,000 | 但是如果他是真正 |
| 00:06:45,000 | 00:06:46,000 | 他貸了款 |
| 00:06:46,000 | 00:06:47,000 | 但是他們是真正的婚姻 |
| 00:06:47,000 | 00:06:49,000 | 而不是假的婚姻嘛 |
| 00:06:49,000 | 00:06:51,000 | 那這時候你又給他收回 |
| 00:06:51,000 | 00:06:53,000 | 我想這個就鼓勵年輕人買房的 |
| 00:06:53,000 | 00:06:57,000 | 這個意義就喪失了 |
| 00:06:57,000 | 00:06:59,000 | 結婚是人生的大事 |
| 00:06:59,000 | 00:07:01,000 | 買房也是人生的大事 |
| 00:07:01,000 | 00:07:03,000 | 我不認為年輕人會因為那 |
| 00:07:03,000 | 00:07:05,000 | 多200萬的貸款 |
| 00:07:05,000 | 00:07:08,000 | 去做假結婚這些 |
| 00:07:08,000 | 00:07:09,000 | 我認為不會 |
| 00:07:09,000 | 00:07:12,000 | 而且200萬他的利息協助 |
| 00:07:12,000 | 00:07:14,000 | 其實也是 |
| 00:07:14,000 | 00:07:16,000 | 也不見得是他要考慮的範圍內 |
| 00:07:16,000 | 00:07:19,000 | 因為我們認為應該從正面的思考 |
| 00:07:19,000 | 00:07:21,000 | 但是很有可能也會發生這種事情 |
| 00:07:21,000 | 00:07:23,000 | 發生這種事情當然是很遺憾 |
| 00:07:23,000 | 00:07:25,000 | 如果說兩人母法跟同生活 |
| 00:07:25,000 | 00:07:26,000 | 離婚 |
| 00:07:26,000 | 00:07:28,000 | 你不認為是錯殺 |
| 00:07:28,000 | 00:07:29,000 | 我們在我們的 |
| 00:07:29,000 | 00:07:30,000 | 不是沒有殺 |
| 00:07:30,000 | 00:07:32,000 | 我們也沒殺他 |
| 00:07:32,000 | 00:07:34,000 | 是他失和了 |
| 00:07:34,000 | 00:07:35,000 | 離婚 |
| 00:07:35,000 | 00:07:37,000 | 那之後沒有做這樣的一席不見 |
| 00:07:37,000 | 00:07:39,000 | 也沒辦法確認和就對了 |
| 00:07:39,000 | 00:07:41,000 | 好第二個我再做一個議題 |
| 00:07:41,000 | 00:07:42,000 | 請問部長 |
| 00:07:42,000 | 00:07:44,000 | 我想我們金管會最近 |
| 00:07:44,000 | 00:07:47,000 | 就在7月17號首度召集過 |
| 00:07:47,000 | 00:07:49,000 | 本國銀行的獨立董事 |
| 00:07:49,000 | 00:07:52,000 | 把獨董推上銀行治理的第一線 |
| 00:07:52,000 | 00:07:56,000 | 主要是聚焦在獨董如何行使調查權 |
| 00:07:56,000 | 00:07:58,000 | 來協助金融監理 |
| 00:07:58,000 | 00:08:00,000 | 監理的重點包含第一 |
| 00:08:00,000 | 00:08:04,000 | 建立銀行的誠信文化與行為建立框架 |
| 00:08:04,000 | 00:08:06,000 | 第二強化獨董的職能 |
| 00:08:06,000 | 00:08:10,000 | 那金管會也訂定獨董協助及調查作業程序 |
| 00:08:10,000 | 00:08:13,000 | 以及第三推動全民金融 |
| 00:08:13,000 | 00:08:17,000 | 金管會希望透過座談把獨董從形式上的 |
| 00:08:17,000 | 00:08:19,000 | 獨立的一個席次 |
| 00:08:19,000 | 00:08:22,000 | 推向銀行治理的風險與困難的第一線 |
| 00:08:22,000 | 00:08:25,000 | 讓董事會不只看獲利 |
| 00:08:25,000 | 00:08:27,000 | 也要對誠信文化 |
| 00:08:27,000 | 00:08:30,000 | 治理品質以及社會負責任 |
| 00:08:30,000 | 00:08:33,000 | 所以請問部長你認為金管會 |
| 00:08:33,000 | 00:08:36,000 | 第一次召集我們本國銀行的獨立董事 |
| 00:08:36,000 | 00:08:40,000 | 討論關於獨立銀行 |
| 00:08:40,000 | 00:08:43,000 | 獨立董事銀行治理的責任 |
| 00:08:43,000 | 00:08:45,000 | 主要的原因是什麼 |
| 00:08:45,000 | 00:08:48,000 | 希望獨董能夠發揮這個功能 |
| 00:08:48,000 | 00:08:54,000 | 在董事會裡面能夠一起協助做這個公司治理 |
| 00:08:54,000 | 00:08:57,000 | 所以到目前所有的宮古行窟 |
| 00:08:57,000 | 00:08:59,000 | 在這三大監理議題上 |
| 00:08:59,000 | 00:09:03,000 | 獨董運作執行的狀況未來會是如何 |
| 00:09:03,000 | 00:09:04,000 | 當然 |
| 00:09:04,000 | 00:09:09,000 | 會本著金管會現在這個三個原則去做監理嗎 |
| 00:09:09,000 | 00:09:12,000 | 宮古事業當然是推薦的獨董 |
| 00:09:12,000 | 00:09:16,000 | 當然在獨董應該要符合金管會的一些要求 |
| 00:09:16,000 | 00:09:17,000 | 一定也要去落實的 |
| 00:09:17,000 | 00:09:18,000 | 還是會去落實的 |
| 00:09:18,000 | 00:09:19,000 | 是 |
| 00:09:19,000 | 00:09:20,000 | 另外就是說 |
| 00:09:20,000 | 00:09:24,000 | 另外就是說部長是否也贊成在所有的宮古行窟中 |
| 00:09:24,000 | 00:09:27,000 | 配合推動此一措施 |
| 00:09:27,000 | 00:09:32,000 | 是否要維持宮古行窟獨董的監理的獨立性 |
| 00:09:32,000 | 00:09:33,000 | 獨董就有獨立性 |
| 00:09:33,000 | 00:09:34,000 | 不會做要求吧 |
| 00:09:34,000 | 00:09:35,000 | 就要獨立性 |
| 00:09:35,000 | 00:09:36,000 | 是的 |
| 00:09:36,000 | 00:09:41,000 | 那金管會也希望若是銀行涉及獨董等高階主管 |
| 00:09:41,000 | 00:09:44,000 | 疑涉及不法或者不當行為 |
| 00:09:44,000 | 00:09:48,000 | 獨董均可依程序介入調查與釐清 |
| 00:09:48,000 | 00:09:53,000 | 但宮古行窟的董座總經理都是官派 |
| 00:09:53,000 | 00:09:59,000 | 財政部是否也會放手讓宮古行窟的獨董進行必要的調查 |
| 00:09:59,000 | 00:10:00,000 | 當然會 |
| 00:10:00,000 | 00:10:01,000 | 一定會 |
| 00:10:01,000 | 00:10:05,000 | 那我就問剛才賴斯柏委員也隨循了 |
| 00:10:05,000 | 00:10:09,000 | 就是財政部取得國票金的經營權 |
| 00:10:09,000 | 00:10:13,000 | 若是再來有獨立董事提出修改公司章程 |
| 00:10:13,000 | 00:10:15,000 | 廢除副董的職位 |
| 00:10:15,000 | 00:10:17,000 | 財政部是否會支持 |
| 00:10:17,000 | 00:10:20,000 | 我想這是內部公司治理的一個程序 |
| 00:10:20,000 | 00:10:23,000 | 當然是要尊重公司 |
| 00:10:23,000 | 00:10:24,000 | 部長 |
| 00:10:24,000 | 00:10:25,000 | 是的 |
| 00:10:25,000 | 00:10:26,000 | 剛賴委員也強調 |
| 00:10:26,000 | 00:10:29,000 | 財政部是我們最大的股東 |
| 00:10:29,000 | 00:10:31,000 | 國票金最大的股東 |
| 00:10:31,000 | 00:10:33,000 | 可以說就是代表 |
| 00:10:33,000 | 00:10:37,000 | 財政部就可以這個來代表這個公司 |
| 00:10:37,000 | 00:10:39,000 | 你總該有個立場吧 |
| 00:10:39,000 | 00:10:41,000 | 委員剛才不是提到嗎 |
| 00:10:41,000 | 00:10:43,000 | 獨董我們要尊重他的獨立性 |
| 00:10:43,000 | 00:10:45,000 | 所以在公司治理面董事會裡面 |
| 00:10:45,000 | 00:10:48,000 | 不是我現在講說廢除副董的職位 |
| 00:10:48,000 | 00:10:50,000 | 廢除副董職位 |
| 00:10:50,000 | 00:10:52,000 | 你是否會支持 |
| 00:10:52,000 | 00:10:54,000 | 你剛才講說要尊重公司的一個治理 |
| 00:10:54,000 | 00:10:55,000 | 是啊 |
| 00:10:55,000 | 00:10:57,000 | 但是現在你財政部你是關 |
| 00:10:57,000 | 00:11:00,000 | 這些獨董大部分都是你官派的 |
| 00:11:00,000 | 00:11:02,000 | 所以你財政部要有個立場 |
| 00:11:02,000 | 00:11:03,000 | 你的態度是什麼 |
| 00:11:03,000 | 00:11:05,000 | 我們要尊重他的獨立性 |
| 00:11:05,000 | 00:11:06,000 | 你還是尊重他的獨立性 |
| 00:11:06,000 | 00:11:07,000 | 當然尊重獨立性 |
| 00:11:07,000 | 00:11:08,000 | 是的 |
| 00:11:08,000 | 00:11:09,000 | 好以上好謝謝 |
| 00:11:09,000 | 00:11:10,000 | 謝謝委員 |