| IVOD_ID |
170735 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170735 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-29 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
24 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-29T10:32:16+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-29T10:43:08+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/271ed4367c1fa46495de04c84f6d2ebb33d96299fbed69daf022f95b44c761a1741abac731c48f905ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:32:16 - 10:43:08 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-29T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第24次全體委員會議(事由:審查本院委員王世堅等17人、委員呂玉玲等16人、委員葉元之等17人、委員黃健豪等18人、委員黃健豪等19人、委員賴士葆等18人、委員李彥秀等20人分別擬具「海關進口稅則部分稅則修正草案」等7案。(僅詢答)) |
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主席 請選委員 |
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謝謝主席 我們請莊部長 |
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請莊部長 |
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委員好 |
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部長好 這個請教一下部長 |
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在今年二月份的時候 |
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行政院副院長曾立軍提到說 |
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我們已經跟美方達成了 |
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台美對等貿易協定 |
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那時候也講了 |
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未來美規車的部分 |
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美規的小客車關稅會降到零 |
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保留中小貨車為一定的關稅 |
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以確保軍工韌性 |
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所以在二月份的時候就提到了 |
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未來美規的小客車關稅會降到零 |
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可是他有提到 |
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因為還要等到 |
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美方完成301調查 |
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因為後來對等關稅就有問題了 |
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然後到五月份的時候 |
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副院長又講到說 |
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這個要等到美方完成301的調查 |
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78 |
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然後確定說 |
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那時候講說大概七月底 |
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台美的ART確定取得優惠待遇之後 |
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連同MOU送國會審查 |
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那時候美國進口汽車就零關稅 |
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在ART生效後 |
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96 |
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配合相關的修法 |
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98 |
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就是我們今天講的海關稅則的法 |
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101 |
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相關的法也有可能會到零 |
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這個是到七月底 |
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103 |
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106 |
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前幾天就上個禮拜 |
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106 |
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108 |
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這是7月24號 |
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108 |
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112 |
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美國按照301條款 |
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他也調查出來了 |
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116 |
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台灣是獲得10% |
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而且不疊加MFN |
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122 |
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台灣享有豁免的清單 |
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在這個豁免清單裡面 |
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因為我們在他們調查當中 |
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有拿到的10% |
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而且不疊加MFN優惠的稅率 |
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134 |
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136 |
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我們台灣的汽車零組件 |
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138 |
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工具機等這些傳統產業 |
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138 |
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141 |
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這些稅率是比日本韓國都還要好 |
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144 |
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既然談判是這樣子 |
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有給就有拿 |
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152 |
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所以我們拿到了10%的優惠匯率 |
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155 |
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在汽車零組件、工具機等等之類的 |
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155 |
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159 |
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是不是我們也要有一個對等的承諾 |
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159 |
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163 |
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至少在汽車零組件的部分的話 |
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163 |
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165 |
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我們的關稅也要把它調成零 |
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167 |
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171 |
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委員我想這個部分是不是我們分開來談 |
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173 |
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我們跟美方之間簽的ART |
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173 |
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177 |
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是我們雙邊之間的談判的一個協定 |
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177 |
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181 |
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當時的ART是在美方的所謂的一個 |
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181 |
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183 |
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貿易法的一個法源下 |
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183 |
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185 |
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這個就所謂的國際緊急經濟權利法 |
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185 |
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187 |
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但是AIPA這個部分 |
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187 |
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189 |
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在最高法院他們已經判定 |
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189 |
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191 |
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不能做這個工具 |
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191 |
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193 |
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所以後來就開始用122條款 |
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193 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
195 |
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課10%的稅 |
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195 |
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197 |
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那12條款的臨時的課徵稅 |
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197 |
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199 |
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在7月24號戒指以後 |
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199 |
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202 |
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那接下來就是301調查出來了 |
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202 |
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也就是所謂的禁止強迫勞動產品進口 |
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208 |
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這個調查出來台灣是獲得了10%的稅率 |
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208 |
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210 |
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而且不停加 |
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210 |
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212 |
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汽車零組件嘛對不對 |
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212 |
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214 |
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汽車零組件這個細項的部分 |
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214 |
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有沒有含汽車零組件 |
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217 |
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這是我們出口的部分 |
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217 |
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你說那個10% |
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另外我們還有2000多項的產品的豁免 |
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這個部分所謂的10% |
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225 |
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228 |
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那是蘇美到美國去的一個關稅稅 |
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228 |
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231 |
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有沒有10%的部分項目 |
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231 |
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233 |
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經濟部 |
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233 |
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235 |
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有沒有含 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
235 |
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就是我們蘇美的這個部分汽車零組件 |
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蘇美的汽車零組件是適用在232條款裡面 |
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242 |
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目前是15%不疊加 |
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244 |
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246 |
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15%不疊加 |
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246 |
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248 |
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那所以這個不是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
249 |
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251 |
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10%是 |
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251 |
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253 |
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不是不在這個適用範圍內 |
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253 |
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255 |
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所以我們目前還是15% |
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255 |
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257 |
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對15%不疊加 |
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257 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
259 |
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不是10% |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
259 |
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263 |
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所以這是10%裡面沒有含這個汽車零組件 |
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263 |
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沒有 |
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266 |
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我們汽車零組件還是維持在15% |
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266 |
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268 |
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232條款以外的都不適用 |
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268 |
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272 |
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那所以汽車零組件的關稅就是15%了 |
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272 |
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276 |
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然後呢這個關稅15%還會再做任何的改變嗎 |
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276 |
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280 |
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會跟這個美國的301的調查會有任何的改變嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
280 |
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283 |
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我的理解應該就是在232的範疇內 |
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283 |
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286 |
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好那其實那就更簡單啦 |
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286 |
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289 |
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就是因為本來要等到這個301的調查 |
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289 |
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293 |
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因為它有分是屬於禁止強迫勞動的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
293 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
294 |
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還有一個呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
另外一個還有這個 |
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296 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
297 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
產能過剩 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
297 |
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298 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
產能過剩 |
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298 |
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300 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
這兩個確定之後 |
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300 |
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302 |
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我本以為說這兩個確定之後呢 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
302 |
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307 |
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最後才確定說我們蘇美這一個汽車零組件的這個關稅 |
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307 |
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是不是就是在這個10% |
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309 |
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313 |
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結果現在就是用232的這個條款就是15%就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
313 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
314 |
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那更簡單啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
314 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
315 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
那我請教部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
315 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
317 |
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那所以確定這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
317 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
那這個就是拿到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
321 |
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那拿到15%其實一樣啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
321 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
324 |
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在臺灣就是說我們拿到15% |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
324 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
那我們一樣相對的對等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
326 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
332 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
對等的我們要給這個這個美國進來的這一些汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
332 |
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334 |
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我們是不是也要相對 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
334 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
335 |
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要把它減少 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
335 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
要降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
339 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
對那當然這個最後就要到ART生效 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
339 |
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341 |
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因為還要先送立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
341 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
對啊就是ART最後要送到連NWU都送到立法院嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
344 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
348 |
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所以我們拿到15%輸到美國的 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
348 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
然後美國輸進來的汽車零組件最後也是到零嘛對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
352 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
354 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
目前談判的結果是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
354 |
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356 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
對啊那所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
359 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
對啊那所以我們今天在談這個海關稅則 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
359 |
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362 |
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進口稅則這個最後有關汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
362 |
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364 |
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就是會到零了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
364 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
366 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
這個修的海關進口稅則 |
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366 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
369 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
各位委員所提的版本是全面性的降 |
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369 |
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372 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
跟美國我們是雙邊的 |
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372 |
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374 |
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是針對美國進口 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
377 |
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對我是說針對美國進口的這些零組件啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
377 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
最後會降到零了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
380 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
最後就是ART生效以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
382 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
我們隨同配合修正海關進口稅則 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
385 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
要這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
386 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
那今天這個委員所提的這個版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
並不是根據它出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
390 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
我先不管委員的版本 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
我就是說我是說因為現在是台美在談判嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
395 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那我們跟他們談判是對等的 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
397 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
互惠的 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
那所以呢我們拿到15%過去 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
400 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
然後他們進來是零%就對了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
談判的那個目前ART的那一面的是這樣的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
406 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
對啊所以這個有關汽車零組件最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
409 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
我講汽車零組件最後 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
如果ART、MOU你法院都同意了生效了 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
414 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
最後關稅就會降到零了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
那是指美國進口的 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
418 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
對是指美國進口的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
420 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
因為我們現在是跟美國談嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
422 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
我現在都講美國的啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
等下講到這個美國車關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
426 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
要降到零我也是講美國車的啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
428 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
我也是講美國製造的車啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
430 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
433 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
好那這個有確定了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
433 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
那我接下來就問啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
435 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
那現在就是大家更關心就是美國車 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
438 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
美國車進來最後關稅是不是也降到零 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
443 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
在ART談判是這樣子 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
是對美國車對 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
447 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
小客車 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
只要是這個車子是在美國製造的 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
451 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
就算他是譬如說他是雙B好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
454 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
或是說日本比較高檔的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
456 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
他只要是在美國製造的 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
在美國製造的 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
460 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
這個賣到台灣來 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
463 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
他的關稅就是零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
17.5%的關稅就是變成零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
467 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
是美國製造對 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
469 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
這就確定嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
那所以大家就在期待 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
或是在等待就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
這個美國的進口車 |
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477 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
480 |
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賣到台灣的關稅到零 |
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那就是確定的事情嘛對不對 |
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對如果等到ART經過大院審議以後 |
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484 |
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就是確定了 |
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486 |
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489 |
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那這個ART是現在已經算是 |
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489 |
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491 |
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在行政的部分 |
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491 |
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493 |
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作業的部分的話算是完成了嗎 |
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495 |
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還是還要再等美方 |
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等美方因為他的做法源依據 |
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因為他原來的那個REPA |
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500 |
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並不對最高法院接受 |
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502 |
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那所以要等美方什麼樣的 |
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507 |
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一個作業完成呢 |
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509 |
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美方完成這個法律的一個依據 |
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509 |
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511 |
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法源依據 |
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那我們有掌握大概是什麼時間嗎 |
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這個目前行政院的OTN |
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521 |
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持續跟美國保持密切的一個溝通 |
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521 |
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523 |
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跟暢通我想這個部分他們都 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
523 |
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525 |
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所掌握也會繼續的溝通 |
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525 |
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528 |
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對那所以年底有可能 |
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528 |
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530 |
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年底有可能談判完成嗎 |
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530 |
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532 |
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這個部分在時程上 |
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532 |
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534 |
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不是我方可以做確定的 |
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534 |
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536 |
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是對啦那我就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
536 |
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538 |
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那現在有遇到什麼樣的一個阻礙嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
538 |
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539 |
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還是就是說 |
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539 |
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541 |
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那反正就是談判需要花一點時間 |
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541 |
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544 |
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這個是行政院OTN那邊 |
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544 |
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是在做處理的 |
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546 |
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548 |
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那經濟部這邊有掌握到什麼訊息嗎 |
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548 |
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550 |
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報告委員沒有我這邊沒有 |
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550 |
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552 |
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這邊也沒有 |
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552 |
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555 |
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那所以呢現在我們要等這個 |
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555 |
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557 |
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確定之後 |
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557 |
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560 |
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送到行政院跟他們台灣之後 |
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560 |
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562 |
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確定然後呢這個 |
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562 |
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564 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
最後再送到立法院 |
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564 |
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566 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
立法院同意之後 |
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566 |
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568 |
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那汽車零組件是美國輸進來的 |
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570 |
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汽車零組件還有美國車 |
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570 |
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572 |
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都是零嘛關稅都是零嘛 |
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572 |
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574 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
這是確定的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
然後我們再跟著修海關進口稅者 |
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576 |
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579 |
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那所以這個也不會受到這一個 |
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579 |
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581 |
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這個美國的301調查 |
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581 |
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582 |
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這個沒有影響就對了 |
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582 |
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584 |
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最後就要看ART什麼時候 |
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584 |
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586 |
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送進立法院通過 |
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586 |
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587 |
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對所以說這部分 |
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587 |
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589 |
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就跟這個美國的301調查 |
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589 |
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591 |
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沒有關係就對了 |
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591 |
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592 |
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我想ART的部分 |
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592 |
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595 |
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剛剛談的還是就是他的法源依據的部分 |
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595 |
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597 |
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還是美方還是在尋求一個 |
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597 |
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599 |
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合適的法源依據 |
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599 |
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601 |
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對那對所以我就問說 |
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601 |
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603 |
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那跟這個美國的301的調查 |
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603 |
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604 |
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有關係嗎 |
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604 |
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606 |
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是不是有關聯我想OTN那邊 |
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606 |
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608 |
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跟美方都會持續的他們在協商過程 |
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608 |
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610 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
不是這個也會影響 |
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610 |
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612 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
所以我就問說 |
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612 |
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614 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
那你們有沒有在乎說 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
614 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
615 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
到底這兩者有沒有關係 |
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615 |
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617 |
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還是就脫鉤了汽車零組件 |
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617 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
反正就適用232 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
621 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
然後這個跟301調查就沒有關係 |
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621 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
623 |
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我想在談判過程當中 |
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623 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
也許都會提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
624 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
626 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
但是這個部分我們並不確定 |
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626 |
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628 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
因為是OTN在談判的 |
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628 |
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630 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
好那反正確定就是說 |
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630 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
632 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
只要ART確定 |
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632 |
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634 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
之後送來立法院 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
634 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
637 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
那這一個美國輸到 |
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637 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
639 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
台灣的這個汽車零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
639 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
還有美國車美國製造的車 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
那關稅就是零嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
643 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
這就是確定的事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
只是說不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
646 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
不知道哪時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
ART可以跟美國談完就對了 |
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649 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
651 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
對反正依據確認以後 |
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651 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
653 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
送大院審一通過 |
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653 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
655 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
謝謝 |