iVOD / 170716

Field Value
IVOD_ID 170716
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170716
日期 2026-07-27
會議資料.會議代碼 聯席會議-11-5-19,35,20-2
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 5
會議資料.會次 2
會議資料.種類 聯席會議
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 19
會議資料.委員會代碼[1] 35
會議資料.委員會代碼[2] 20
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 經濟委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] 外交及國防委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[2] 財政委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2026-07-27T09:09:27+08:00
結束時間 2026-07-27T09:19:28+08:00
影片長度 00:10:01
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委員名稱 賴士葆
委員發言時間 09:09:27 - 09:19:28
會議時間 2026-07-27T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議(事由:一、 繼續併案審查: (一) 行政院函請審議「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (二) 本院國民黨黨團擬具「國防自主無人載具科技發展及採購條例草案」案。 (三) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「強化國防自主暨無人機產業發展條例草案」案。 (四) 本院委員林楚茵等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 二、 併案審查: (五) 本院委員陳素月等20人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (六) 本院委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (七) 本院委員林宜瑾等26人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (八) 本院委員吳思瑤等16人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (九) 本院委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (十) 本院委員賴士葆等43人擬具「國防戰略無人載具國外採購暨技術合作特別條例草案」案。 (十一) 本院委員賴士葆等44人擬具「無人載具產業升級發展條例草案」案。 (十二) 本院委員李坤城等18人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購特別條例草案」案。 (十三) 本院委員鍾佳濱等21人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購暨產業創建特別條例草案」案。 (十四) 本院委員王定宇等17人擬具「國防自主無人載具採購暨產業創建特別條例草案」案。 (第十四案如未接獲院會交付審查之議事處來文,則不予審查)(處理))
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 那這個是什麼
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 這個不就給差不多就好了
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 這不是訂單就給錢就好了
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 那給誰呢
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 那為什麼全部給這個
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 天理善化
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 中科院就很適合來整個
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 來handle的
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 這個叫要井上天花啦
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transcript.whisperx[104].text 前陣子也看到自己電的新聞了
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transcript.whisperx[112].text 廠商都已經可以
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 這是經濟部
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transcript.whisperx[118].text 所以我們現在無人機產業發展的多好
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 可以變成第二座
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transcript.whisperx[129].text 技術升級
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 我一個提案
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transcript.whisperx[132].text 就是
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transcript.whisperx[135].text 我的基本精神就比照過去
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transcript.whisperx[136].text 蔡英文
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 共同推的
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 生物產
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 裡面我的內容幾乎
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 都跟他
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 雷同
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 所以台灣的生技產業也發展一陣子啊
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 最後一定要看到的成果
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 這個成果
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 好像事不如要打折
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 有一個條例在哪裡
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 所以我是根據
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transcript.whisperx[156].text 那個條例的精神
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 我提了
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 各位可以看我的條例
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 裡面第一條就講得非常清楚
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 那就是希望
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 能夠
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 比如說租稅的減免等等等等
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transcript.whisperx[179].text 這是
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 這是一個案子
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 另外一個案子一樣
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 他中醫師講就是要技術升級
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 另外一個案子就是
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 來510
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 對不起
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 那這個
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 一定要有一個
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transcript.whisperx[191].text Offset Program
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 就是工業合作
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 我可以買100塊
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 你要給我買40塊以上
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transcript.whisperx[197].text 50塊、60塊更好
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transcript.whisperx[199].text 你技術要移轉給我
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 要在我這裡升更
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 其實我最希望的就是
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transcript.whisperx[206].text 我們新世界整個動起來
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transcript.whisperx[207].text 產業利益整個動起來
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 我就強調就是
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 大概就將近8000億
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 扣掉名稱
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 扣掉主管單位
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transcript.whisperx[285].text 這個本來就會審計的
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transcript.whisperx[286].text 這一條也是Redundant
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transcript.whisperx[287].text 扣掉這個只有3條
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transcript.whisperx[292].text 其他委員提案
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transcript.whisperx[293].text 其實相對的都比較仔細
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transcript.whisperx[294].text 比較完整
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transcript.whisperx[296].text 我也請各位委員
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transcript.whisperx[297].text 等一下協商時候
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transcript.whisperx[298].text 能夠把這個真的要幫
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transcript.whisperx[300].text 技術升級
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transcript.whisperx[301].text 技術升級
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transcript.whisperx[302].text 技術升級
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transcript.whisperx[303].text 比什麼都重要
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transcript.whisperx[306].text 甚至於更多
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transcript.whisperx[307].text 其實我們都可以支持
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transcript.whisperx[308].text 只要能夠達到技術升級
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transcript.whisperx[309].text 謝謝
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transcript.whisperx[310].text
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transcript.whisperx[312].text 接下來我們請宗家病院委員說明提案要旨