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賴士葆 @ 第11屆第5會期經濟、外交及國防、財政三委員會第2次聯席會議
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| 00:00:00,000 | 00:00:03,840 | 謝謝主席以及各位先進 |
| 00:00:04,360 | 00:00:07,680 | 那麼謝謝這個因為我的案子剛進來啦 |
| 00:00:07,680 | 00:00:09,200 | 所以有這個說明 |
| 00:00:09,480 | 00:00:10,760 | 其實我是兩個案子 |
| 00:00:10,760 | 00:00:12,560 | 但是中心思想是一樣的 |
| 00:00:13,060 | 00:00:16,900 | 那麼中心思想就是要讓無人載具 |
| 00:00:17,160 | 00:00:21,000 | 他的技術能夠在台灣能夠升級 |
| 00:00:21,240 | 00:00:22,280 | 理而如下 |
| 00:00:22,520 | 00:00:23,300 | 第一點 |
| 00:00:23,560 | 00:00:26,880 | 現在看到國防部提了這個特別條例 |
| 00:00:27,140 | 00:00:29,180 | 行政院提了這個要特別條例 |
| 00:00:29,640 | 00:00:33,740 | 他就是要買21萬架的無人機 |
| 00:00:34,500 | 00:00:38,860 | 還有無人艇大概上千台的 |
| 00:00:39,120 | 00:00:39,880 | 有無人艇 |
| 00:00:40,140 | 00:00:41,420 | 可是你看到 |
| 00:00:41,680 | 00:00:44,240 | 21萬架的無人機 |
| 00:00:44,500 | 00:00:47,820 | 基本上都是比較低階的 |
| 00:00:48,080 | 00:00:49,620 | 技術層次是低的 |
| 00:00:50,379 | 00:00:52,180 | 那麼現在來講的話 |
| 00:00:52,440 | 00:00:53,960 | 來講就有一個現象 |
| 00:00:54,740 | 00:00:57,040 | 這個經濟部的核遲長在這裡 |
| 00:00:57,540 | 00:00:59,080 | 在前一陣子來講 |
| 00:00:59,339 | 00:01:00,380 | 很大聲的 |
| 00:01:00,660 | 00:01:02,200 | 這個要垮垮而談 |
| 00:01:02,700 | 00:01:05,019 | 說我們無人機產業發展的多好 |
| 00:01:06,300 | 00:01:07,340 | 我們去年 |
| 00:01:07,840 | 00:01:09,880 | 有100多億的產值 |
| 00:01:10,140 | 00:01:11,660 | 是前年的2.5倍 |
| 00:01:12,180 | 00:01:13,720 | 然後行政院 |
| 00:01:13,980 | 00:01:15,260 | 剛通過了 |
| 00:01:15,760 | 00:01:17,820 | 先跑了預算先跑了 |
| 00:01:18,080 | 00:01:22,180 | 就是未來的幾年要兵了442億 |
| 00:01:22,680 | 00:01:25,500 | 來輔助這個無人機的產業 |
| 00:01:26,020 | 00:01:27,180 | 所以你可以看啦 |
| 00:01:27,380 | 00:01:29,180 | 這個政府就是行政部門 |
| 00:01:29,440 | 00:01:32,260 | 拼命的丟錢給現在我們的無人機的 |
| 00:01:32,520 | 00:01:34,300 | 產業這些廠商 |
| 00:01:34,800 | 00:01:38,400 | 廠商的幾家有267家之多 |
| 00:01:39,940 | 00:01:40,960 | 丟給他們什麼 |
| 00:01:41,480 | 00:01:42,740 | 丟給他們訂單 |
| 00:01:43,520 | 00:01:44,540 | 那這個是什麼 |
| 00:01:45,300 | 00:01:47,100 | 這個不就給差不多就好了 |
| 00:01:47,620 | 00:01:49,660 | 這不是訂單就給錢就好了 |
| 00:01:50,180 | 00:01:51,200 | 那給誰呢 |
| 00:01:51,960 | 00:01:53,760 | 那為什麼全部給這個 |
| 00:01:54,020 | 00:01:55,800 | 267家通通可以給嗎 |
| 00:01:56,119 | 00:01:57,160 | 天理善化 |
| 00:01:57,679 | 00:01:59,720 | 267家通通給嗎 |
| 00:02:00,240 | 00:02:01,000 | 我想不是的 |
| 00:02:01,259 | 00:02:02,539 | 你要認真講的話 |
| 00:02:03,060 | 00:02:06,120 | 無人載具的產業一定要有一個龍頭 |
| 00:02:06,380 | 00:02:08,720 | 所以應該是幾家的龍頭 |
| 00:02:08,979 | 00:02:09,720 | 比如說 |
| 00:02:09,979 | 00:02:12,280 | 我們中科院就很適合當這個龍頭 |
| 00:02:12,540 | 00:02:14,600 | 中科院就很適合來整個 |
| 00:02:14,859 | 00:02:15,660 | 來講他 |
| 00:02:15,920 | 00:02:17,720 | 來主導然後他帶著一串 |
| 00:02:19,000 | 00:02:21,800 | 這個才是一個發展無人機產業 |
| 00:02:22,060 | 00:02:23,600 | 的一個實際的情況 |
| 00:02:23,860 | 00:02:24,680 | 我再強調一遍 |
| 00:02:25,040 | 00:02:27,320 | 台灣目前無人機的廠商 |
| 00:02:27,580 | 00:02:29,000 | 所謂無人機產業 |
| 00:02:29,260 | 00:02:31,800 | 廠商有267家 |
| 00:02:32,820 | 00:02:34,600 | 267家之多 |
| 00:02:35,880 | 00:02:38,440 | 可是真正能夠整機 |
| 00:02:38,920 | 00:02:39,920 | 來handle的 |
| 00:02:40,200 | 00:02:40,960 | 沒有幾家啦 |
| 00:02:41,220 | 00:02:44,040 | 就是說可以當頭的這幾家 |
| 00:02:44,540 | 00:02:46,600 | 好了那這個結果會怎麼樣 |
| 00:02:47,120 | 00:02:48,920 | 如果按照這樣的邏輯來講的話 |
| 00:02:49,160 | 00:02:51,000 | 那就少數幾家 |
| 00:02:51,260 | 00:02:52,540 | 會拿到政府 |
| 00:02:53,019 | 00:02:54,780 | 2100億的訂單 |
| 00:02:54,780 | 00:02:56,299 | 因為他要發給其他人 |
| 00:02:56,840 | 00:02:58,140 | 所以整個來講的話 |
| 00:02:58,140 | 00:02:59,900 | 就會產生一個現象 |
| 00:03:00,160 | 00:03:03,239 | 就是當這些龍頭只有少數幾家 |
| 00:03:03,500 | 00:03:06,320 | 的時候其他的人就會講了幾個字 |
| 00:03:06,820 | 00:03:07,600 | Wanami |
| 00:03:08,100 | 00:03:09,120 | 為什麼沒有我的份 |
| 00:03:09,859 | 00:03:11,180 | 這是第一個Wanami |
| 00:03:11,940 | 00:03:12,980 | 第二個程度呢 |
| 00:03:13,480 | 00:03:15,019 | 一樣這個分下去 |
| 00:03:15,280 | 00:03:15,780 | 的時候 |
| 00:03:16,299 | 00:03:17,320 | 也是有一些吃不到 |
| 00:03:17,579 | 00:03:20,140 | 他不可能267家都吃到這個錢 |
| 00:03:21,160 | 00:03:22,440 | 一樣Wanami |
| 00:03:23,179 | 00:03:24,720 | 但在這個之外 |
| 00:03:24,720 | 00:03:26,540 | 無人機產業之外 |
| 00:03:26,859 | 00:03:28,100 | 比如說工具機業 |
| 00:03:28,620 | 00:03:31,019 | 比如說傳統的跟機器有關係的 |
| 00:03:31,380 | 00:03:33,980 | 或者跟等有自動化有關係的廠商 |
| 00:03:34,260 | 00:03:34,940 | 也會講 |
| 00:03:35,220 | 00:03:36,579 | 為什麼我沒有呢 |
| 00:03:37,079 | 00:03:37,579 | 各位 |
| 00:03:38,100 | 00:03:39,739 | 我們這一次行政部 |
| 00:03:39,739 | 00:03:42,220 | 行政院給了21億 |
| 00:03:42,980 | 00:03:43,780 | 要買 |
| 00:03:44,459 | 00:03:46,299 | 這個無人載具 |
| 00:03:46,780 | 00:03:48,299 | 其實倒閉的天泥 |
| 00:03:48,660 | 00:03:50,859 | 這個叫要井上天花啦 |
| 00:03:51,380 | 00:03:52,180 | 我們都知道 |
| 00:03:53,019 | 00:03:54,660 | 經濟部不斷的強調 |
| 00:03:54,980 | 00:03:55,780 | 我們現在多好 |
| 00:03:55,780 | 00:03:57,700 | 前陣子也看到自己電的新聞了 |
| 00:03:58,540 | 00:03:59,980 | 我們有廠商賣給 |
| 00:04:00,220 | 00:04:00,739 | 這個 |
| 00:04:01,140 | 00:04:02,899 | 賣給少女阿婆5000 |
| 00:04:03,220 | 00:04:04,660 | 5000叫的無人機 |
| 00:04:04,820 | 00:04:05,940 | 然後最近又 |
| 00:04:06,220 | 00:04:08,380 | 哪一家又得到什麼國外的訂單 |
| 00:04:09,019 | 00:04:10,459 | 就以我們來講 |
| 00:04:10,459 | 00:04:12,180 | 廠商都已經可以 |
| 00:04:12,500 | 00:04:13,859 | 以現在的技術 |
| 00:04:14,100 | 00:04:14,780 | 賣給 |
| 00:04:14,980 | 00:04:17,019 | 世界其他國家也有外銷 |
| 00:04:17,260 | 00:04:18,180 | 這是經濟部 |
| 00:04:18,380 | 00:04:19,820 | 一直強調的戰機 |
| 00:04:20,100 | 00:04:22,340 | 所以我們現在無人機產業發展的多好 |
| 00:04:22,380 | 00:04:23,580 | 可以變成第二座 |
| 00:04:23,820 | 00:04:25,659 | 第二座的富國神山 |
| 00:04:25,659 | 00:04:26,580 | 我們都同意 |
| 00:04:26,580 | 00:04:27,299 | 很好 |
| 00:04:27,859 | 00:04:29,979 | 那有必要再給它訂單嗎 |
| 00:04:30,260 | 00:04:31,780 | 所以現在需要什麼 |
| 00:04:32,500 | 00:04:34,340 | 現在的無人機的國內 |
| 00:04:34,340 | 00:04:35,340 | 無人機的產業 |
| 00:04:35,460 | 00:04:36,820 | 最需要的就是什麼 |
| 00:04:37,340 | 00:04:39,059 | 給它技術升級 |
| 00:04:40,059 | 00:04:41,260 | 技術升級 |
| 00:04:41,260 | 00:04:43,580 | 就是我這兩個提案的中性思想 |
| 00:04:43,979 | 00:04:45,020 | 我一個提案 |
| 00:04:45,380 | 00:04:45,940 | 就是 |
| 00:04:46,140 | 00:04:48,620 | 促進無人載具 |
| 00:04:49,419 | 00:04:51,700 | 的產業發展條例 |
| 00:04:52,340 | 00:04:54,859 | 我的基本精神就比照過去 |
| 00:04:55,380 | 00:04:56,260 | 蔡英文 |
| 00:04:56,780 | 00:04:58,179 | 還沒當總統之前 |
| 00:04:58,299 | 00:04:59,539 | 跟王金銘院長 |
| 00:04:59,820 | 00:05:01,179 | 共同推的 |
| 00:05:01,900 | 00:05:03,099 | 生物產 |
| 00:05:03,099 | 00:05:05,780 | 生技產業發展條例 |
| 00:05:05,940 | 00:05:07,739 | 裡面我的內容幾乎 |
| 00:05:07,820 | 00:05:08,460 | 都跟他 |
| 00:05:09,020 | 00:05:09,700 | 雷同 |
| 00:05:10,140 | 00:05:10,659 | 我 |
| 00:05:10,900 | 00:05:12,260 | follow他的精神 |
| 00:05:13,299 | 00:05:15,780 | 所以台灣的生技產業也發展一陣子啊 |
| 00:05:15,780 | 00:05:16,260 | 當然 |
| 00:05:16,500 | 00:05:17,580 | 生技產業到後來 |
| 00:05:17,580 | 00:05:19,299 | 最後一定要看到的成果 |
| 00:05:19,460 | 00:05:20,299 | 這個成果 |
| 00:05:20,380 | 00:05:21,500 | 好像事不如要打折 |
| 00:05:21,500 | 00:05:22,460 | 都不管怎麼樣 |
| 00:05:22,980 | 00:05:24,180 | 有一個條例在哪裡 |
| 00:05:24,700 | 00:05:25,940 | 所以我是根據 |
| 00:05:26,500 | 00:05:27,860 | 那個條例的精神 |
| 00:05:27,940 | 00:05:28,740 | 我提了 |
| 00:05:29,140 | 00:05:29,580 | 讓 |
| 00:05:29,940 | 00:05:32,100 | 無人載具產業 |
| 00:05:32,100 | 00:05:32,980 | 無人載具 |
| 00:05:33,180 | 00:05:34,260 | 不是無人機而已 |
| 00:05:34,500 | 00:05:36,140 | 無人機、無人停 |
| 00:05:36,740 | 00:05:39,220 | 還有自動駕駛車輛等等的 |
| 00:05:40,020 | 00:05:42,060 | 這些通通在我的範圍裡面 |
| 00:05:42,060 | 00:05:43,980 | 各位可以看我的條例 |
| 00:05:43,980 | 00:05:46,180 | 裡面第一條就講得非常清楚 |
| 00:05:46,300 | 00:05:47,020 | 所以一個 |
| 00:05:47,460 | 00:05:50,180 | 無人載具的產業發展條例 |
| 00:05:50,940 | 00:05:52,540 | 那就是希望 |
| 00:05:52,820 | 00:05:53,500 | 能夠 |
| 00:05:53,820 | 00:05:54,900 | 我們對於 |
| 00:05:55,820 | 00:05:56,700 | 投資 |
| 00:05:57,260 | 00:05:59,900 | 在無人載具技術 |
| 00:06:00,340 | 00:06:01,460 | 的升級方面 |
| 00:06:01,820 | 00:06:03,580 | 我們給他一些的補助 |
| 00:06:03,900 | 00:06:04,380 | 或者 |
| 00:06:04,460 | 00:06:05,900 | 比如說利息的補貼 |
| 00:06:06,140 | 00:06:08,180 | 比如說租稅的減免等等等等 |
| 00:06:08,420 | 00:06:08,820 | 這是 |
| 00:06:09,020 | 00:06:09,900 | 這是一個案子 |
| 00:06:10,260 | 00:06:11,820 | 另外一個案子一樣 |
| 00:06:11,820 | 00:06:13,860 | 他中醫師講就是要技術升級 |
| 00:06:14,420 | 00:06:15,500 | 另外一個案子就是 |
| 00:06:15,740 | 00:06:17,940 | 我們跟國外的先進國家 |
| 00:06:18,100 | 00:06:18,660 | 買 |
| 00:06:19,540 | 00:06:22,300 | 無人機、無人載具 |
| 00:06:23,420 | 00:06:24,660 | 來510 |
| 00:06:25,020 | 00:06:25,820 | 對不起 |
| 00:06:25,820 | 00:06:26,660 | 那這個 |
| 00:06:26,940 | 00:06:28,140 | 一定要有一個 |
| 00:06:28,300 | 00:06:29,420 | Offset Program |
| 00:06:29,420 | 00:06:31,180 | 就是工業合作 |
| 00:06:31,540 | 00:06:33,220 | OFFSED |
| 00:06:33,860 | 00:06:36,020 | 我們這裡面就強制規定 |
| 00:06:36,700 | 00:06:37,900 | 我可以買100塊 |
| 00:06:37,900 | 00:06:39,660 | 你要給我買40塊以上 |
| 00:06:40,060 | 00:06:41,300 | 50塊、60塊更好 |
| 00:06:41,300 | 00:06:42,020 | 什麼意思 |
| 00:06:42,180 | 00:06:44,260 | 你技術要移轉給我 |
| 00:06:44,580 | 00:06:46,500 | 要在我這裡升更 |
| 00:06:47,060 | 00:06:48,260 | 所以這兩個案子 |
| 00:06:48,420 | 00:06:50,060 | 其實我最希望的就是 |
| 00:06:50,340 | 00:06:51,780 | 台灣的無人機 |
| 00:06:52,260 | 00:06:52,940 | 產業 |
| 00:06:53,620 | 00:06:55,780 | 利用這一次的 |
| 00:06:56,060 | 00:06:58,140 | 我們新世界整個動起來 |
| 00:06:58,539 | 00:07:00,180 | 產業利益整個動起來 |
| 00:07:00,300 | 00:07:01,099 | 我們一起來 |
| 00:07:01,260 | 00:07:04,580 | 希望台灣的無人載具產業發展 |
| 00:07:04,900 | 00:07:06,700 | 技術能夠升級 |
| 00:07:06,820 | 00:07:07,980 | 所以我再強調一遍 |
| 00:07:08,219 | 00:07:09,219 | 我就強調就是 |
| 00:07:09,420 | 00:07:10,539 | 技術升級 |
| 00:07:10,740 | 00:07:11,500 | 至於 |
| 00:07:11,780 | 00:07:13,140 | 說你要這個錢 |
| 00:07:13,219 | 00:07:14,700 | 國務部要2100億 |
| 00:07:15,060 | 00:07:15,940 | 要特別預算 |
| 00:07:15,980 | 00:07:16,940 | 我們強調的是 |
| 00:07:17,060 | 00:07:17,940 | 年度預算 |
| 00:07:18,219 | 00:07:19,820 | 國務部常常一直在講說 |
| 00:07:19,820 | 00:07:21,300 | 哎呀這個會排擠其他的 |
| 00:07:21,500 | 00:07:22,180 | 對不起 |
| 00:07:23,020 | 00:07:24,020 | 我們現在的 |
| 00:07:24,700 | 00:07:26,380 | 國防預算占GDP |
| 00:07:26,380 | 00:07:27,620 | 已經超過3% |
| 00:07:27,940 | 00:07:29,420 | 但是賴總統說 |
| 00:07:29,660 | 00:07:30,860 | 在2030年 |
| 00:07:30,860 | 00:07:31,780 | 應該沒有錯 |
| 00:07:31,980 | 00:07:33,260 | 要到達5% |
| 00:07:33,780 | 00:07:35,540 | 現在是2026年結束了 |
| 00:07:35,700 | 00:07:38,500 | 2027、2028、2029、2030 |
| 00:07:38,700 | 00:07:39,740 | 4年的時間 |
| 00:07:40,100 | 00:07:41,420 | 要增加3% |
| 00:07:41,620 | 00:07:42,940 | 3%是什麼概念 |
| 00:07:42,940 | 00:07:44,740 | 我們現在GDP大概26兆 |
| 00:07:45,060 | 00:07:47,060 | 1%就是2680 |
| 00:07:47,060 | 00:07:48,860 | 3%各位可以看 |
| 00:07:48,980 | 00:07:50,500 | 所以3%是多少 |
| 00:07:50,500 | 00:07:52,180 | 大概就將近8000億 |
| 00:07:52,540 | 00:07:54,420 | 8000億付給4年 |
| 00:07:54,540 | 00:07:55,660 | 所以一年 |
| 00:07:55,740 | 00:07:58,220 | 國防預算要增加2000億 |
| 00:07:59,540 | 00:08:01,100 | 何來排擠之所 |
| 00:08:01,820 | 00:08:03,260 | 所以這個錢 |
| 00:08:03,540 | 00:08:05,380 | 完全沒有必要放在 |
| 00:08:05,580 | 00:08:07,180 | 要特別預算 |
| 00:08:07,340 | 00:08:09,060 | 應該要回歸到 |
| 00:08:09,220 | 00:08:10,540 | 年度預算 |
| 00:08:11,140 | 00:08:12,260 | 這一部分來講 |
| 00:08:12,660 | 00:08:13,980 | 我是沒有提這個案子 |
| 00:08:14,180 | 00:08:14,700 | 但是 |
| 00:08:14,980 | 00:08:16,180 | 我再強調的是 |
| 00:08:17,580 | 00:08:19,140 | 以我個人立場來講 |
| 00:08:19,780 | 00:08:21,740 | 你要我們的國防預算 |
| 00:08:21,740 | 00:08:22,900 | 占GDP的 |
| 00:08:23,260 | 00:08:24,180 | 5% |
| 00:08:24,860 | 00:08:27,340 | 你大概有8000億的空間 |
| 00:08:27,540 | 00:08:28,460 | 未來的4年 |
| 00:08:28,460 | 00:08:29,700 | 8000億的空間 |
| 00:08:29,780 | 00:08:32,020 | 所以一年大概平均2000億 |
| 00:08:32,340 | 00:08:33,020 | 之多 |
| 00:08:33,260 | 00:08:34,900 | 所以不會排擠 |
| 00:08:34,980 | 00:08:35,860 | 可能不夠 |
| 00:08:36,659 | 00:08:38,659 | 所以這個也請這個 |
| 00:08:39,539 | 00:08:40,900 | 特別是顧部長 |
| 00:08:41,780 | 00:08:43,299 | 好好去稍微的 |
| 00:08:44,780 | 00:08:46,540 | 腦子稍微的轉一下 |
| 00:08:46,780 | 00:08:47,939 | Reset一下 |
| 00:08:48,140 | 00:08:49,339 | 我們願意支持 |
| 00:08:50,020 | 00:08:50,860 | 你要2000億 |
| 00:08:50,860 | 00:08:52,339 | 我們當然說2400 |
| 00:08:53,260 | 00:08:54,980 | 就放在一般預算 |
| 00:08:54,980 | 00:08:55,819 | 我想這樣子 |
| 00:08:55,939 | 00:08:57,300 | 很快就會有公司 |
| 00:08:57,620 | 00:08:58,860 | 按照行政的版本 |
| 00:08:58,860 | 00:08:59,860 | 它總共只有 |
| 00:09:00,420 | 00:09:01,140 | 7條 |
| 00:09:01,660 | 00:09:03,060 | 扣掉名稱 |
| 00:09:03,380 | 00:09:04,780 | 扣掉主管單位 |
| 00:09:04,900 | 00:09:06,219 | 扣掉時事日期 |
| 00:09:06,339 | 00:09:07,219 | 只有10條 |
| 00:09:07,860 | 00:09:09,339 | 裡面再扣掉一條 |
| 00:09:09,500 | 00:09:11,020 | 所謂要審計 |
| 00:09:11,339 | 00:09:12,579 | 要定期的審計 |
| 00:09:12,699 | 00:09:14,180 | 這個本來就會審計的 |
| 00:09:14,380 | 00:09:15,939 | 這一條也是Redundant |
| 00:09:16,020 | 00:09:17,380 | 扣掉這個只有3條 |
| 00:09:17,580 | 00:09:18,540 | 3條裡面 |
| 00:09:19,020 | 00:09:20,660 | 就要了2100億 |
| 00:09:20,660 | 00:09:22,180 | 其實比較起來 |
| 00:09:22,180 | 00:09:23,580 | 其他的黨團 |
| 00:09:23,580 | 00:09:24,660 | 其他委員提案 |
| 00:09:24,780 | 00:09:26,860 | 其實相對的都比較仔細 |
| 00:09:26,940 | 00:09:27,700 | 比較完整 |
| 00:09:27,700 | 00:09:29,460 | 我想我做簡單的報告 |
| 00:09:29,740 | 00:09:31,820 | 我也請各位委員 |
| 00:09:32,100 | 00:09:33,420 | 等一下協商時候 |
| 00:09:33,540 | 00:09:35,980 | 能夠把這個真的要幫 |
| 00:09:36,180 | 00:09:38,340 | 無人載具產業 |
| 00:09:38,500 | 00:09:39,940 | 技術升級 |
| 00:09:39,940 | 00:09:41,140 | 技術升級 |
| 00:09:41,220 | 00:09:42,220 | 技術升級 |
| 00:09:42,380 | 00:09:43,700 | 比什麼都重要 |
| 00:09:43,860 | 00:09:44,860 | 2100億 |
| 00:09:44,980 | 00:09:45,900 | 2100億 |
| 00:09:45,900 | 00:09:46,940 | 甚至於更多 |
| 00:09:46,940 | 00:09:48,580 | 其實我們都可以支持 |
| 00:09:48,580 | 00:09:50,780 | 只要能夠達到技術升級 |
| 00:09:50,780 | 00:09:51,380 | 謝謝 |
| 00:09:53,260 | 00:09:53,780 | 好 |
| 00:09:53,780 | 00:09:55,860 | 我們謝謝賴時保委員 |
| 00:09:55,860 | 00:09:58,820 | 接下來我們請宗家病院委員說明提案要旨 |