| IVOD_ID |
170688 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170688 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-22 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-22T16:01:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-22T16:15:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:13:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7469000803f9b6aa759e567b93e113cba27d63d5dbb97eb28f1577ec02b93ccf8773759d3bad123a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
16:01:17 - 16:15:00 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
（變更議程）立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：（上午9時起）
邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院食品安全辦公室、行政院消費者保護處、經濟部、法務部、國防部及教育部就「致癌食用油成因、流向、稽查、資訊公開、風險評估、團體訴訟、求償機制，行政法律究責、未來具體改進措施及期程等事宜」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院食品安全辦公室、教育部及農業部就「近期發布《農藥殘留容許量標準》(如其中蘋果芬普寧藥殘標準從0.5ppm放寬至3.0ppm等)之各項依據及修正標準」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
討論事項
一、審查行政院函送財團法人國家衛生研究院115年度工作計畫及收支預算案。
二、審查衛生福利部函送財團法人醫院評鑑暨醫療品質策進會等9家財團法人115年度預算書案。
【以上專題報告及預算案綜合詢答；預算案，僅詢答，115年7月30日下午5時截止收案】
（下午2時30分起，若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開）
三、繼續審查及審查「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」等73案。
(一)繼續審查行政院函請審議「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)繼續審查委員何欣純等17人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三)繼續審查委員邱鎮軍等17人擬具「國民年金法第十五條及五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(四)繼續審查委員王美惠等18人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(五)繼續審查委員劉建國等16人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
......（完整內容，詳見議事日程）
(六十四)審查委員高金素梅等18人擬具「國民年金法第三十一條、第五十三條及第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(六十五)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(六十六)審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(六十七)審查委員陳菁徽等18人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(六十八)審查委員賴士葆等25人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(六十九)審查委員廖偉翔等21人擬具「國民年金法第三十九條、第三十九條之一及第四十條條文修正草案」案。
(七十)審查委員涂權吉等18人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(七十一)審查委員林思銘等17人擬具「國民年金法第十五條、第三十一條及第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(七十二)審查國民黨黨團擬具「國民年金法第三十九條、第三十九條之一及第四十條條文修正草案」案。
(七十三)審查委員游顥等16人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
【逐條討論，不詢答】） |
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SPEAKER_00 |
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822.04596875 |
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0 |
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6.82 |
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主席有請市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].start |
6.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].end |
7.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[1].text |
市長 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].start |
7.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].end |
9 |
| transcript.whisperx[2].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].start |
9 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].end |
10.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[3].text |
有請石成良部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].start |
10.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].end |
14.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[4].text |
好 委員好 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].start |
14.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].end |
17.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[5].text |
好 部長好 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].start |
17.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].end |
23 |
| transcript.whisperx[6].text |
本篇批一級致癌物 人民天天吃下毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].start |
23 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].end |
26.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[7].text |
我想請教部長 你覺得人民擔不擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].start |
26.8 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].end |
29.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[8].text |
這個對這些致癌 當然大家都擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
29.44 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
31.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
身為父母擔不擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
31.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
32.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
當然都擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
32.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
33.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
都擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
33.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
34.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
我們大家都擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
34.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
35.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
我告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
35.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
38.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
我們的官員發明了三金句 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
38.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
40.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
真的 每天吃飯前 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
40.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
43.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
默念這三金句 就不用擔心了 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
43.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
44.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
擔心都是多餘的 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
44.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
48.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
你知道哪三個金句嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
48.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
51.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
吃飯前 默念官員三金句 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
51.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
55.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
保證百毒不侵 你知道哪三個金句嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
56.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
58.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
我來告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
58.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
60.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
沒人逼你吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
60.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
62.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
別吃炸雞排 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].start |
62.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
65.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
多喝水沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].start |
65.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].end |
67.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
聽過這三句吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
67.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
69.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
沒聽過也看過新聞吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
69.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
70.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
對 新聞上有 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
70.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
72.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
有 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
72.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
76.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
部長 當然這三金句都不是出自你口 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
76.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
79.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
可是你覺得聽在人民的耳中 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
79.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
82.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
聽這三句金句 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
82.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
83.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
你覺得聽得進去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
83.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
85.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].text |
聽得下去嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].start |
85.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
86.86 |
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是不是吃飯前 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
86.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
88.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].text |
默念這三金句 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
88.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
90.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
我們就不用害怕本便宜 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
90.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
92.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
吃太多也不用怕 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
92.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
93.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].text |
念完這三金句 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
93.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
95.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
毒品油的事情就解決了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
95.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
97.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
97.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].text |
這個油品的安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
100.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
102.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
食安都是我們的責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
102.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
我們都要去做 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
103.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
105.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
那面對這樣的事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
105.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
109.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
當然 我直接跟部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
109.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
111.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
面對毒油風暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
111.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
117.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
最不需要就是幹話 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
117.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
其中一個幹話是你們次長講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
120.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
124.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
好 接下來再請教您 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
124.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
127.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
衛福部宣布中聯今年4月到6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
127.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
生產的30批大豆沙拉油 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
131.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
有19批 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
132.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
135.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
你們確認符合食品安全標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
135.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
136.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
要重新上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
136.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
137.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
137.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
137.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
138.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
這是誰的決策 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
138.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
140.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
是卓文泰院長拍板的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
141.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
142.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
沒有 這個在我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
142.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
宣布預防性下架的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
145.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
149.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
那麼因為當時候中聯的資料有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
149.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
150.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
所以我們為了 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
150.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
153.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
趕快讓民眾能夠安心 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
153.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
155.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
所以我們在7月9號就宣布 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
155.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
158.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
4到6月先預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
158.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
161.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
那等我們驗完之後如果合格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
161.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
162.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
再來重新上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
162.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
165.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
所以我們後來也按照我們當時候的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
165.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
167.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
因為他們是合格的產品 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
167.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
169.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
當時候是因為沒有辦法確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
169.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
171.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
因為中聯的sample |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
171.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
173.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
他的樣本我們驗起來都合格 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
173.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].end |
177.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].text |
可是下游驗出來竟然出現資料不對接 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
177.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].end |
179.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].text |
所以我們才會擴大到4到6月 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
179.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
180.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
180.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].end |
182.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].text |
所以我們才叫做預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
182.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
184.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
你上次的說法你這一整天都在說 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
184.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].end |
184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].start |
184.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].end |
186.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
我有聽到 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
186.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].end |
187.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].text |
我想請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
187.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].end |
190.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
毒油發生的原因現在釐清了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
190.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
192.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
完全釐清了嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
192.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
195.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
我們昨天的專家進入到這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
195.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
196.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
做最後的確認 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].start |
196.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].end |
197.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
還沒釐清 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
197.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
198.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].text |
已經釐清了 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
198.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
199.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
完全釐清了 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].start |
199.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
200.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
200.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
大概 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
200.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
202.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
現在我們大概這個禮拜報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
202.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
正式報告就會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
203.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
205.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
這個禮拜正式報告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
205.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
205.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
207.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
報告出來跟大家國人報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
207.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
208.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
會 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
208.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
211.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
我要告訴我們部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
211.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
212.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
我想要請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
212.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
為什麼不等報告出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
213.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
216.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
你再開始取信於民 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
216.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
217.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
然後你再開始 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
217.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
220.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
進行所謂的重新上架的這個做法 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
220.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
221.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
我想問一下這段話誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
221.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
你記不記得 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
222.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
224.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
你知不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
224.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
226.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
要了解批號所有狀況資訊 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
226.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
228.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
真相清楚才準上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
228.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
230.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
這話誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
230.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
233.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
這個批號我們完全都掌握清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
233.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
233.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
你跟我講 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
233.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
這個禮拜報告才會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
235.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
出來的沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
236.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
237.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
不過這個每一個批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
237.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
238.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
我們都檢驗的 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
238.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
240.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
我講的不是你講這19個 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
240.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
242.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
我講的是整件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
242.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
242.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
你要告訴我 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
242.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
244.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
所以真相已經完全釐清了 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
244.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
245.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
問題由的出 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
245.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
247.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
到底是來源在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
247.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
248.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
流向在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
248.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
全部都清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
250.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
是嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
250.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
251.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
多少吃進國人肚子裡都清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
253.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
254.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
是這個意思嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
254.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
257.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
這個事件為什麼會產生 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
257.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
258.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
BAP偏高 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
258.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
這個我們大概知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
259.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
260.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
請問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
260.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
262.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
你既然說真相都清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
262.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
263.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
這個禮拜報告就能出來了 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
263.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
264.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
265.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
265.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
267.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
請問到底有百分之多 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
267.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
現在到底問題有多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
268.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
你們掌握的 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
270.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
272.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
就是這個7批 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
272.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
這個7批的數量 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
274.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
275.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
我們是掌握了 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
275.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
275.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
多少多 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
275.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
279.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
然後但是8000多 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
279.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
280.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
8000多公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
280.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
283.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
然後回收的目前是2700 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
283.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
285.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
我想請教你 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
285.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
288.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
多少吃進人民的肚子裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
288.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
290.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
百分之多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
290.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
292.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
因為以現在這樣的比例而言 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
292.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
296.14 |
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大概是30%左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].start |
296.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
297.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
但是其餘的 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].start |
297.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
299.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
有些現在已經丟棄了 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
299.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
301.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
就是30%左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
301.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
303.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
大概多少公噸吃進人民肚子裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].start |
303.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
305.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
因為它是有的是以 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].start |
305.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
307.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
這個油炸的方式 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].start |
307.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].end |
309.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
油炸油的方式在使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
309.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
310.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
所以它會丟棄 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
310.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
不是全部 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].start |
311.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
312.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
你說實話 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].start |
312.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
313.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
你既然已經確定 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].start |
313.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
沒有多少公噸有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].start |
315.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
317.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
你說30%吃進人民肚子裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].start |
317.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
318.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
那不是就乘以30% |
| transcript.whisperx[163].start |
318.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].end |
320.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
你就可以算進多少公噸 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
320.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
323.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
因為它不是直接都是食用 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
323.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
324.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
因為它有的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
324.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
325.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
會棄置 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
325.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
會變成廢棄物了 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
327.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
329.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
它已經變成廢棄物了 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
329.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
331.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
所以我們沒有辦法去 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
331.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
算這個回收量 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].start |
333.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].end |
335.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].start |
335.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].end |
337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[172].text |
這些所謂的到 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].start |
337.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
341.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
這個我們商家開始調理以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].start |
341.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
343.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
就是提供人民吃了多少 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].start |
343.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
344.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
你到現在答案是告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
344.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
你也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
346.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
347.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
多少是棄置 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
347.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
348.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
多少是進到人民肚子裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
348.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
你不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
350.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
352.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
所以你不要拍胸部告訴我說 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
352.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
你所有的真相全部查清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
354.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
355.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
那我在講上游 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
355.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
356.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
你說查清楚了 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
356.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
359.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
上游的源頭到底是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
359.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
360.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
就是它的 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
360.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
362.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
我們從它的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
362.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
364.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
我們檢驗出的不合格的批次 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
364.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
366.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
去對照它整個製程 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
366.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
跟它的原料比值 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
368.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
370.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
那所以有幾批 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
370.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
372.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
它的這個原料的品質比較差 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
372.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
375.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
那幾批原料源頭又是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
375.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
376.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
那就是巴西的豆子 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
376.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
377.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
巴西的豆子 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
377.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
379.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
然後再加上它製程上 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
379.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
381.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
沒有去精煉達標 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
381.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
384.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
所以造成它最後的這個數值 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
384.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
386.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
我要告訴部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
386.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
388.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
你光跟我講的到這一段 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
388.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
391.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
說真的也沒呈現在報告裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
391.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
394.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
你說你的報告到這個禮拜才會出來 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
394.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
395.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
那我下一個就要問了 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
395.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
397.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
我剛剛講要了解批號 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
397.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
398.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
真相搞清楚才准上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
398.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
399.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
這句話誰說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
399.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
402.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
你知道誰說的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
402.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
404.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
這句話陳其邁說的 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
404.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
你現在重新上架這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
406.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
408.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
我想請問一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
408.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
409.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
中央跟地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
409.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
413.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
到底在這件事上有沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].start |
413.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
417.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
這個我們完成了這個科學的檢驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
417.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
417.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
確認了 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
417.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
419.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
你不是又開了一堆 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
419.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
421.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
會議把地方首長找上來 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
421.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
423.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
有沒有共識 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
423.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
426.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
會議當中有沒有跟地方首長溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
426.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
428.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
有沒有跟陳其邁溝通 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
429.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
430.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
434.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
當然我們現在是從我們檢驗的結果去 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
434.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
436.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
去確認哪些批次是安全的 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
436.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
437.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
你都沒 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
437.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
437.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
但是 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
437.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
438.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
您還是沒有回答我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
438.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
440.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
如果地方有它自己的考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
440.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
442.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
您還是沒有回答我的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
442.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
443.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
我要問部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
443.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
所以堅決不會撤回你重新上架的政策 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
447.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
堅決不會撤回 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
448.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
即便陳其邁這樣講 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
449.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
453.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
即便蔣萬安跟台中市長盧修諺都表達疑慮 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
453.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
455.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
人民的信心人民的安全感 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
455.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
457.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
覺得應該永遠放在第一優先順位 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
457.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
461.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
等你的所有報告全部公諸真相公佈之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
461.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
463.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
你再來讓社會大眾來決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
463.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
465.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
要不要同意你重新上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
465.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
467.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
這個政策你不會改變 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
467.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
470.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
因為這些批次我們都已經確認完成了 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
470.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
472.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
它是達標的 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
472.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
475.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
它是合格的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
475.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
477.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
我跟部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
477.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
479.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
你口口聲聲說這些都安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
479.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
483.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
都是達標的商品 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
483.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
485.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
可今天整個衛福部 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
485.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
488.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
為什麼開始讓人民覺得 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
488.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
492.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
對你們講的話已經要打上問號 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
492.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
打上問號不是直接否定你講的話不可信 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
495.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
498.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
而是我不知道該不該信 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
498.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
502.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
因為從毒油風暴發生到現在 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
502.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
503.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
503.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
505.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
20幾天 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
505.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
507.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
我們發現 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
507.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
509.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
看到我們的行政官員 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
509.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
511.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
外面看到的是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
511.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
513.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
壓力到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
513.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
515.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
就是做法到哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
515.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
518.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
我舉個例子725人民就要上 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
518.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
519.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
凱道抗議了 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
519.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
521.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
抗議什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
521.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
524.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
抗議這個食安風暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
524.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
527.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
如果沒有725人民抗議食安風暴 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
527.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
529.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
我想請問 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
529.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
534.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
今天行政院說要開始做修法工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
534.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
538.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
開記者會要來做修法 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
538.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
539.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
我很好奇 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
539.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
541.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
如果人民沒有要上凱道 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
541.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
542.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
你們會去做這件事嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
542.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
我光問一件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
544.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
546.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
省紀部多久就告訴行政部門 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
546.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
548.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
我們的整個食安有漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
548.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
省紀部什麼時候講的 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
551.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].end |
552.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
省紀部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
552.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
554.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
你看省紀部講什麼你也不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].start |
554.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].end |
555.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[274].text |
兩年前 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].start |
555.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].end |
557.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[275].text |
你作為主管機關 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].start |
557.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].end |
559.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[276].text |
省紀部兩年前就已經告訴你 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].start |
559.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].end |
562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[277].text |
自主管理有漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].start |
562.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].end |
564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[278].text |
然後你的所謂的 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].start |
564.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].end |
566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[279].text |
覆查的覆蓋有問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].start |
566.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].end |
569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[280].text |
食安有破口 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].start |
569.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].end |
571.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[281].text |
可是這兩年到現在部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].start |
571.98 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].end |
574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[282].text |
我問省紀部的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].start |
574.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].end |
576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[283].text |
你們回去看一下好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].start |
576.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].end |
577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[284].text |
可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].start |
577.3 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].end |
577.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[285].text |
可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].start |
577.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].end |
580.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[286].text |
回去看一下吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].start |
580.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].end |
581.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[287].text |
不過 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].start |
581.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].end |
585.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[288].text |
今天分幾個層次跟部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].start |
585.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].end |
586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[289].text |
第一個層次是什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].start |
586.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].end |
588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[290].text |
第一個層次當然 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].start |
588.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].end |
591.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[291].text |
制度跟系統有漏洞 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].start |
591.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].end |
593.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[292].text |
要從制度系統去改 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].start |
593.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].end |
594.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[293].text |
沒錯吧 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].start |
594.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].end |
595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[294].text |
對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].start |
595.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].end |
597.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
補強改進對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].start |
597.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].end |
599.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
對這一定的 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].start |
599.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].end |
601.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[297].text |
但行政管理有疏失 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].start |
601.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].end |
603.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[298].text |
那就要去追究 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].start |
603.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].end |
604.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[299].text |
是不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].start |
604.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].end |
605.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[300].text |
對 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].start |
605.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].end |
606.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[301].text |
所以 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].start |
606.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].end |
609.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[302].text |
你今天看到系統的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].start |
609.5 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].end |
613.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[303].text |
兩年前省紀部就已經警示了 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].start |
613.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].end |
614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[304].text |
沒有動 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].start |
614.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].end |
618.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[305].text |
現在好都說推給是業者隱匿 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].start |
618.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].end |
620.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[306].text |
業者隱匿本來就有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].start |
620.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].end |
622.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[307].text |
在現在法治之下有沒有責任 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].start |
622.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].end |
623.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[308].text |
一樣有 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].start |
623.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].end |
625.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[309].text |
這個對這個明定在食安法裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].start |
625.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].end |
627.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
對啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
627.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
629.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
法律都在 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
629.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
但是屠法要能行 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
632.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
634.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
就是行政機關要執行 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
634.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
636.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
可今天行政機關放任 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
636.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
638.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
今天省紀部兩年前的預警 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].start |
638.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].end |
639.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[316].text |
示警 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].start |
639.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].end |
641.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[317].text |
沒有作為 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].start |
641.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].end |
644.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[318].text |
現在行政管理上 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].start |
644.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].end |
645.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[319].text |
不管怎麼講 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].start |
645.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].end |
647.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[320].text |
我就看你們很多解釋 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].start |
647.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].end |
650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[321].text |
一開始不肯公布產品流向 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].start |
650.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].end |
651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[322].text |
然後等到問題擴大 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].start |
651.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].end |
654.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[323].text |
又跟我講說20%以下的 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].start |
654.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].end |
656.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[324].text |
一樣還是准許上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].start |
656.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].end |
658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[325].text |
然後接下來再全部不能上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].start |
658.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].end |
659.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[326].text |
預防性下降 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].start |
659.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].end |
661.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[327].text |
現在重新上架 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].start |
661.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].end |
664.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[328].text |
這整個過程部長你將心比心 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].start |
664.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].end |
665.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[329].text |
你跟我位置換過來 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].start |
665.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].end |
667.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[330].text |
你今天站在父母親 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].start |
667.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].end |
669.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[331].text |
跟站在所謂的一般人民的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].start |
669.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].end |
671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[332].text |
來看的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].start |
671.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].end |
674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[333].text |
你覺得你會安心嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].start |
674.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].end |
676.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[334].text |
你覺得今天衛福部整個過程 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].start |
676.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].end |
677.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[335].text |
的做法當中 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].start |
677.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].end |
679.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[336].text |
沒有值得檢討跟改進的地方嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].start |
679.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].end |
680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[337].text |
有沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].start |
680.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].end |
683.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[338].text |
跟委員當然有值得檢討的地方 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].start |
683.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].end |
684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[339].text |
那麼但是我也 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].start |
684.62 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].end |
686.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[340].text |
來你們檢討的地方在哪裡 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].start |
686.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].end |
688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[341].text |
跟委員的感受是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].start |
688.42 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].end |
691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[342].text |
所以為了讓大家安心才會提早 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].start |
691.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].end |
695.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[343].text |
就4到6月讓它全面性的預防性下架 |
| transcript.whisperx[344].start |
695.54 |
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697.82 |
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這個對於合格的商品 |
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697.82 |
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700.02 |
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當時候我們也是讓它先下架 |
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700.02 |
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702.14 |
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因為我們後頭確認之後 |
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702.14 |
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705.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[347].text |
假如今天不是社會壓力大到一個程度 |
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705.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].end |
706.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[348].text |
你開始採取預防性下架 |
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706.54 |
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709.22 |
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你自己就先做了 |
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709.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[350].end |
710.18 |
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那我也不會說 |
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710.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].end |
712.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[351].text |
外界也不會有一個懷疑是 |
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712.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[352].end |
714.34 |
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這叫做切香腸要擠牙 |
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714.34 |
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715.34 |
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不是 跟委員報告 |
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715.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].end |
717.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[354].text |
這是因為我們調查的過程發現 |
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717.86 |
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719.86 |
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它的資料有作假 |
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719.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].end |
720.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[356].text |
所以我們才 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].start |
720.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].end |
723.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[357].text |
我最後還是跟部長說 |
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723.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].end |
725.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[358].text |
我真的拜託部長 |
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725.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].end |
726.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[359].text |
約束一下 |
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726.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].end |
729.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[360].text |
別的那些人的嘴巴你約束不了 |
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729.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].end |
730.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[361].text |
你是衛福部長 |
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730.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].end |
732.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[362].text |
你也約束不了中研院院長的嘴巴 |
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732.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].end |
734.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[363].text |
你也約束不了民進黨發言人的嘴巴 |
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734.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].end |
737.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[364].text |
你也約束不了新北市議員的嘴巴 |
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737.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].end |
740.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[365].text |
但自己衛福部的官員嘴巴約束好了 |
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740.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].end |
741.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[366].text |
提由救火 |
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741.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].end |
744.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[367].text |
不需要在這個時候講一些幹話 |
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744.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[368].end |
746.06 |
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這個今天還要每個民眾 |
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746.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].end |
748.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[369].text |
吃飯之前要默念我剛剛前面講的三金句嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].start |
748.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].end |
750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[370].text |
沒人逼我吃 |
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750.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].end |
751.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[371].text |
別吃炸雞排 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].start |
751.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].end |
752.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[372].text |
多喝水沒事 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].start |
752.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].end |
755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[373].text |
這樣念完以後本便宜 |
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755.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].end |
758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[374].text |
就沒毒了 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].start |
758.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].end |
760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[375].text |
民眾已經對這件事情上 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].start |
760.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].end |
762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[376].text |
已經不知道吃什麼東西好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].start |
762.58 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].end |
764.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[377].text |
講白了 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].start |
764.86 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].end |
767.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[378].text |
沙拉油哪個食品不用到 |
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767.18 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].end |
769.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[379].text |
毒油風暴一掀開以後 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].start |
769.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].end |
771.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[380].text |
我就講沒人逼你吃這件事情 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].start |
771.38 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].end |
774.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[381].text |
認同這句話嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].start |
774.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].end |
774.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[382].text |
認同這句話 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].start |
774.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].end |
777.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[383].text |
這句話能夠解答毒油風暴嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].start |
777.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].end |
780.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[384].text |
我們的責任就是確保這些用油都是安全 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].start |
780.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].end |
782.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[385].text |
問你認不認同 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].start |
782.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].end |
783.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[386].text |
我們的責任就是要確保 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].start |
783.78 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].end |
785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[387].text |
答對了嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].start |
785.54 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].end |
788.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[388].text |
政府如果沒有善盡責任 |
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788.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
791.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
當毒油瓶流入市面的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].start |
791.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].end |
793.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[390].text |
什麼叫沒人逼你吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].start |
793.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].end |
795.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[391].text |
民眾根本沒得選 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].start |
795.02 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].end |
797.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[392].text |
我怎麼知道A有毒 B有毒 C有毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
797.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
798.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
還是D有毒 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
798.22 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
800.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
我都不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
800.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
802.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
所以這是為什麼今天 |
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802.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
805.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
我必須要跟部長說 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
805.46 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
別的人不管 吳征你管不到 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
808.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
810.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
但是你為福不自己管好了 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
810.66 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
811.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
811.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
812.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
謝謝委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
812.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
815.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
這個我們一定會確保所有的在 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
815.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
818.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
這個架上面的油品的合格合規 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
818.74 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
820.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
好 謝謝部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
820.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
822.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
822.06 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
823.34 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
謝謝羅志強我的質詢 |