| IVOD_ID |
170677 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170677 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-22 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-22T13:14:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-22T13:26:48+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:37 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7469000803f9b6aad20276212185b8e1a27d63d5dbb97eb2fc2ef105ce64f6c8d23dda6d107b523c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
13:14:11 - 13:26:48 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
（變更議程）立法院第11屆第5會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第20次全體委員會議（事由：（上午9時起）
邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院食品安全辦公室、行政院消費者保護處、經濟部、法務部、國防部及教育部就「致癌食用油成因、流向、稽查、資訊公開、風險評估、團體訴訟、求償機制，行政法律究責、未來具體改進措施及期程等事宜」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
邀請衛生福利部部長、行政院食品安全辦公室、教育部及農業部就「近期發布《農藥殘留容許量標準》(如其中蘋果芬普寧藥殘標準從0.5ppm放寬至3.0ppm等)之各項依據及修正標準」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
討論事項
一、審查行政院函送財團法人國家衛生研究院115年度工作計畫及收支預算案。
二、審查衛生福利部函送財團法人醫院評鑑暨醫療品質策進會等9家財團法人115年度預算書案。
【以上專題報告及預算案綜合詢答；預算案，僅詢答，115年7月30日下午5時截止收案】
（下午2時30分起，若上午議程尚未結束，待結束後接續召開）
三、繼續審查及審查「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」等73案。
(一)繼續審查行政院函請審議「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)繼續審查委員何欣純等17人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一及第五十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三)繼續審查委員邱鎮軍等17人擬具「國民年金法第十五條及五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(四)繼續審查委員王美惠等18人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(五)繼續審查委員劉建國等16人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
......（完整內容，詳見議事日程）
(六十四)審查委員高金素梅等18人擬具「國民年金法第三十一條、第五十三條及第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(六十五)審查委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(六十六)審查委員林宜瑾等22人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(六十七)審查委員陳菁徽等18人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
(六十八)審查委員賴士葆等25人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(六十九)審查委員廖偉翔等21人擬具「國民年金法第三十九條、第三十九條之一及第四十條條文修正草案」案。
(七十)審查委員涂權吉等18人擬具「國民年金法第五十四條之一條文修正草案」案。
(七十一)審查委員林思銘等17人擬具「國民年金法第十五條、第三十一條及第五十條條文修正草案」案。
(七十二)審查國民黨黨團擬具「國民年金法第三十九條、第三十九條之一及第四十條條文修正草案」案。
(七十三)審查委員游顥等16人擬具「國民年金法部分條文修正草案」案。
【逐條討論，不詢答】） |
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好 謝謝 謝謝主席 |
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我們請 講一下醫生 讓部長休息一下 |
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部長要休息一下 |
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來 我們國務院院長 |
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好 請司徒院長 |
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我們看立法院的預算中心幫你們整理的 |
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對於你們國務院有很多意見 |
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我一個一個給你問 |
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第一個 國務院的定位重疊 |
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技術轉移 授權 收入 績效 |
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有餘力 |
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第二個 研究資源分配跟利益衝突 |
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緩慢的機制 |
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第三個 國務院政策智庫 |
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跟急慢性傳染病防治的實質影響力 |
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來 給你講 |
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好 謝謝 謝謝委員 |
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那我想國務院從民國85年圓月成立到現在 |
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今年剛好滿30年 |
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那他的任務目標其實非常清楚 |
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就是怎麼樣來增進國人的健康跟福祉 |
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那我們有三個重要的目標 |
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第一個目標是針對國人重要的疾病 |
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我們來做深入長期而且系統性的分析 |
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來找出防治的辦法 |
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這是我們第一個目標 |
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第二個目標是用實證科學基礎 |
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來提供政府在醫藥衛生跟公共衛生 |
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施政政策的一個參考的依據 |
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127 |
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那第三個目標才是我們真正對國內的生技產業的對接跟推廣 |
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127 |
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129 |
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所以從這三大目標來看 |
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129 |
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132 |
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第一個目標跟第二個目標 |
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132 |
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135 |
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原則上它跟產業的發展 |
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135 |
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137 |
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不是賺錢為目的 |
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137 |
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139 |
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所以先跟委員報告 |
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139 |
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我們所有的預算裡面 |
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143 |
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前面的第一個目標跟第二個目標 |
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143 |
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145 |
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是以保護國人的健康為主 |
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那跟委員舉幾個重要的例子 |
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我們在20幾年前 |
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150 |
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154 |
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國人的這個抗生素濫用的這個情況 |
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154 |
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158 |
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是國務院透過系統性長期的追蹤跟分析 |
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158 |
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161 |
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找出他的分子流病的這整個機制 |
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161 |
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165 |
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然後制定抗生素使用的一個機制 |
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165 |
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169 |
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每一年可以幫國家省10到12億 |
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169 |
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171 |
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所以我們即使沒有賺錢 |
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174 |
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但是幫國人的健康把關 |
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174 |
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176 |
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你們可能要把近五年 |
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176 |
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182 |
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研究的預算對比授權收入效益的比 |
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182 |
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185 |
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那一些不符合效益的計畫 |
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185 |
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187 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
不符合效益的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
187 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
189 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
如何退場的機制 |
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189 |
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190 |
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是 |
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190 |
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192 |
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不可或是 |
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192 |
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197 |
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然後再來就是利益衝突的申報流程 |
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197 |
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201 |
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企業顧問跟持股勾擊防患 |
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201 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
205 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
經費集中過度集中專案等等 |
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205 |
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207 |
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你有另外一個說明沒有 |
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207 |
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208 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
208 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
210 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
謝謝委員的這個指導 |
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210 |
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215 |
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那我想國務院的針對我們所謂的整合性的院外計畫 |
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215 |
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218 |
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每一年的額度大概是2億4千萬左右 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
218 |
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223 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
那這2億4千萬是完全透過公平公開的方式 |
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223 |
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229 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
針對全台灣所有的大學跟研究機構的研究人員可以來申請 |
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229 |
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232 |
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那整個過程是非常公開透明 |
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232 |
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234 |
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那他審查的機制 |
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234 |
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237 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
為了避免國內的這一些 |
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237 |
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240 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
尤其這些比較研究型的大學 |
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240 |
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243 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
他掌握的這個研發能量比較強 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
243 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
245 |
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所以我們的審查委員 |
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245 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
248 |
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每一年會聘請超過70個審查委員 |
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248 |
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252 |
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而且70%是由國外來聘請 |
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252 |
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255 |
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就是為了避免在審查的過程裡面 |
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255 |
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260 |
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有這種所謂的不同的機構之間的這些可能的衝突 |
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260 |
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265 |
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你把那些效益的報告給我好不好 |
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265 |
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271 |
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因為這個是非常用心的人提供的 |
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271 |
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274 |
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所以我要好好的來研究 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
274 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].end |
279 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].text |
那研究人員若兼任私人申請企業的顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[78].start |
279 |
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283 |
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或在私人的企業有相關的股權 |
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283 |
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286 |
| transcript.whisperx[79].text |
國衛院如何進行防範 |
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286 |
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290 |
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是 我們院裡面其實在15年前就制定了 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
290 |
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294 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].text |
我們院裡面的這個利益衝突相關的回避的辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].start |
294 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].text |
跟他的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
296 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].end |
297 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].text |
有都有在集合嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
297 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].end |
299 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].text |
有 我們第一次會做集合 |
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299 |
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301 |
| transcript.whisperx[85].text |
現在如果發生這種事情是很嚴重喔 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
301 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].end |
302 |
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是 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].start |
303 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
305 |
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那我們每一位的研究人員 |
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305 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].end |
309 |
| transcript.whisperx[88].text |
如果要擔任真的是外面業界的這個科學顧問 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].start |
309 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].end |
311 |
| transcript.whisperx[89].text |
他一定要呈報院裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].start |
311 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].end |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[90].text |
那我們會有一個專案小組來做客觀跟公平的關係 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].start |
316 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].end |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
那我們國家衛生政策的智庫定位 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
319 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].end |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].text |
跟重大防疫研發落地轉化效率怎麼樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
325 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].end |
327 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
好 跟委員報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].start |
327 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].text |
我就拿這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
328 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
333 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].text |
我們在1998年這個長病毒在台灣大流行的這個案子 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
333 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].end |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].text |
那政府決定要國人 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
336 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].end |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].text |
我們自己國家來製造這長病毒70疫情的疫苗 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
340 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].text |
那這個一開始也是由國衛院的這個荷曼的合院士 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
346 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].end |
351 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].text |
分離出來長病毒的那個致病的致死率最高的那個病毒株 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].start |
351 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].end |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[100].text |
然後初步是由當初的衛生署的這個疾病管制局 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
356 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].end |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].text |
做了初步的這個疫苗開發的工作 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
360 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
那接下來就是由國衛院接棒 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
362 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].end |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].text |
整個在PITGMP的產線 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
365 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].end |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].text |
做完所有的製程的開發 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].start |
368 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].end |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[105].text |
甚至我們了解到國內的業界 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].start |
371 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].end |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[106].text |
沒有後續做這些動物攻毒實驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].start |
374 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].end |
377 |
| transcript.whisperx[107].text |
因為他需要很多基因改造的老鼠來做測試 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].start |
378 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].end |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[108].text |
我也很關心你們在做疫苗 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].start |
381 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].end |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[109].text |
那你們做出來的量也不是沒辦法跟商業沒辦法 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].start |
388 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].end |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[110].text |
所以這點可能你也要主委一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].start |
391 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].end |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[111].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].start |
392 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].end |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[112].text |
那你請回 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].start |
394 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].end |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[113].text |
行政院食安辦公室許主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].start |
398 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].end |
399 |
| transcript.whisperx[114].text |
許主任 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].start |
399 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].end |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[115].text |
部長休息了 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].start |
401 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].end |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[116].text |
我還要叫他 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].start |
402 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].end |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[117].text |
好 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].start |
403 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].end |
404 |
| transcript.whisperx[118].text |
來 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].start |
405 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].end |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[119].text |
今天早上講有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].start |
408 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].end |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[120].text |
講那個榮耀講了很多 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].start |
411 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].end |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[121].text |
我請問你 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].start |
413 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].end |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[122].text |
那個分普尼上次在講分普尼 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].start |
416 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].end |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[123].text |
這個算分普林 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].start |
419 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].end |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[124].text |
部長我來拜託 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].start |
421 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].end |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[125].text |
你們這個翻譯要找那個靠地區的 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].start |
424 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].end |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[126].text |
不然找到中文系的來搭配 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].start |
427 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].end |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[127].text |
都黑白翻翻到 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].start |
429 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].end |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[128].text |
學研究都倒不起來 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].start |
431 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].end |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[129].text |
亂亂一通差太多了 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].start |
434 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].end |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[130].text |
分普尼就是在雞蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].start |
437 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].end |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[131].text |
雞舍齒頸 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].start |
439 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].end |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[132].text |
一直在斷斷的就怕有傳染病 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].start |
442 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].end |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[133].text |
所以那些東西去汙染到雞蛋 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].start |
445 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].end |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[134].text |
所以雞蛋出問題是這樣來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].start |
448 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].end |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[135].text |
這件在講的是在講分普林 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].start |
452 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].end |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[136].text |
非proprasthrin |
| transcript.whisperx[137].start |
455 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].end |
457 |
| transcript.whisperx[137].text |
這這這 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].start |
458 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].end |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[138].text |
那這一次的出問題是我們從0.5ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[139].start |
462 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].end |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[139].text |
直接調到3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].start |
464 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].end |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[140].text |
是 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].start |
465 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].end |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[141].text |
那在 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].start |
466 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].end |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[142].text |
Cortex |
| transcript.whisperx[143].start |
468 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].end |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[143].text |
Cortex |
| transcript.whisperx[144].start |
470 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].end |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[144].text |
歐洲的法典委員會是2 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].start |
473 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].end |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[145].text |
日本也是2 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].start |
475 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].end |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[146].text |
2.0ppm |
| transcript.whisperx[147].start |
477 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].end |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[147].text |
那一遍是2 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].start |
479 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].end |
481 |
| transcript.whisperx[148].text |
那韓國就3 |
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481 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].end |
485 |
| transcript.whisperx[149].text |
那我們這次從0.5一下調到3 |
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485 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].end |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[150].text |
大家都覺得是受美國的壓力 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].start |
488 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].end |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[151].text |
是不是這樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].start |
490 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].end |
492 |
| transcript.whisperx[152].text |
應該沒有這樣 |
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492 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].end |
494 |
| transcript.whisperx[153].text |
據我所知道食藥署 |
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494 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].end |
497 |
| transcript.whisperx[154].text |
韓國看起來像美國低頭 |
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497 |
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500 |
| transcript.whisperx[155].text |
美國是5啊那你乾脆調到5好了啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].start |
500 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].end |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[156].text |
不是更更更貼切 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].start |
502 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].end |
504 |
| transcript.whisperx[157].text |
有沒有這回事 |
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504 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].end |
506 |
| transcript.whisperx[158].text |
沒有應該是 |
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506 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].end |
510 |
| transcript.whisperx[159].text |
據我所知道食藥署都是經過科學評估之後 |
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510 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].end |
514 |
| transcript.whisperx[160].text |
然後採取然後經過相關委員討論之後 |
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514 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].end |
517 |
| transcript.whisperx[161].text |
才會定然後他會全盤考慮 |
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517 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].end |
519 |
| transcript.whisperx[162].text |
因為不是只有蘋果這一個項目 |
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519 |
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521 |
| transcript.whisperx[163].text |
可能還有其他的 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].start |
521 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].end |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[164].text |
作物全部要納進來看他總共的暴露量 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].start |
525 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].end |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[165].text |
蝴蝶啦蔬菜啦什麼都有嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].start |
528 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].end |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[166].text |
都要看得到 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].start |
529 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].end |
531 |
| transcript.whisperx[167].text |
美國過來草莓啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].start |
531 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].end |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[168].text |
來也有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].start |
533 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].end |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[169].text |
澎哥也有 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].start |
534 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].end |
537 |
| transcript.whisperx[170].text |
像櫻桃就比較下修這樣子 |
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537 |
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540 |
| transcript.whisperx[171].text |
那你草莓是1點多少 |
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540 |
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542 |
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2.0 |
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542 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].end |
543 |
| transcript.whisperx[173].text |
2吧 |
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543 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].end |
545 |
| transcript.whisperx[174].text |
2.0 |
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545 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].end |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[175].text |
草莓是2嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].start |
547 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].end |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[176].text |
草莓是2對 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].start |
548 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].end |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[177].text |
那你為什麼蘋果要用3 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].start |
550 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].end |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[178].text |
你怎麼說 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].start |
552 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].end |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[179].text |
你是怎麼做你去偷夢 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].start |
554 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].end |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[180].text |
跟委員這邊報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].start |
556 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].end |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[181].text |
因為每個我們會進入他農業事件 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].start |
559 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].end |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[182].text |
叫GAP裡面的農場 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].start |
561 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].end |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[183].text |
26場面有符合GAP的 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].start |
563 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].end |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[184].text |
叫Good Agricultural Practices的數據裡面可信可用的 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].start |
568 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].end |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[185].text |
才能夠進入我們的OECD的計算公式 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].start |
572 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].end |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[186].text |
套用我們國內的以實的設施量 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].start |
574 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].end |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[187].text |
去計算完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].start |
576 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].end |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[188].text |
我們申請他們是申請 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].start |
578 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].end |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[189].text |
我們覺得看完之後的數據 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].start |
580 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].end |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[190].text |
其實是在3 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].start |
581 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].end |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[191].text |
所以才會定在3 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
582 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].end |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].text |
從早上聽到現在都說專家專家專家 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].start |
586 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].end |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[193].text |
歐洲法典委員會就說2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].start |
589 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].end |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[194].text |
你就結局你就變3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].start |
591 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].end |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[195].text |
大家覺得很虛聞嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].start |
594 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].end |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[196].text |
我也覺得很虛聞 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].start |
596 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].end |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[197].text |
跟委員說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].start |
597 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].end |
599 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
有2.0也有3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
599 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].end |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].text |
因為這是非常老的藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].start |
602 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
大概是民國60幾年台灣就已經核了 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
606 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].text |
那是農藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].start |
608 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].text |
對非常老的農藥 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].start |
610 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].text |
所以很早很早就核完之後 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].start |
612 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
那我們在88年已經定在梨果類 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].start |
616 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
因為梨果類其實範圍很寬很廣 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].start |
619 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].end |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[206].text |
對於個別的以實的水果裡面 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].start |
622 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
其實為了更精準的去對每個水果裡面對應出來的 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].start |
625 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
所以才會在後續的提出申請之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].start |
628 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
經過評估調整出來的結果 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].start |
630 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].end |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[210].text |
大概簡單說 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].start |
631 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].end |
633 |
| transcript.whisperx[211].text |
所以你現在梨果類改成3 |
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633 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].end |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[212].text |
各項裡面蘋果改成是3 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].start |
638 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].end |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[213].text |
舉個例子我們這邊說明 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].start |
640 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].end |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[214].text |
蘋果是3 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].start |
641 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].end |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[215].text |
那桃子是1.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].start |
644 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].end |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[216].text |
油桃是1.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].start |
645 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].end |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[217].text |
葡萄柚是0.9 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].start |
647 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].end |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[218].text |
柳橙是2.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].start |
648 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].end |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[219].text |
所以每個都有算 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].start |
649 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].end |
651 |
| transcript.whisperx[220].text |
對於櫻桃本來是定在5的 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].start |
651 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].end |
654 |
| transcript.whisperx[221].text |
我們重新去計算送上來的時候 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].start |
654 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].end |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[222].text |
算起來應該是可以更嚴格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].start |
656 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].end |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[223].text |
我們就把它調下來變成3 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].start |
658 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].end |
659 |
| transcript.whisperx[224].text |
所以烏也有調成3 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].start |
659 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].end |
662 |
| transcript.whisperx[225].text |
並不是所有東西都是上調的 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].start |
662 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].end |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[226].text |
不是所有的放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].start |
664 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].end |
665 |
| transcript.whisperx[227].text |
對並不是 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].start |
665 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].end |
667 |
| transcript.whisperx[228].text |
櫻桃就是更嚴格 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].start |
667 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].end |
669 |
| transcript.whisperx[229].text |
那我們也收到一些 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].start |
669 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].end |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[230].text |
櫻桃沒有下皮啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].start |
671 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].end |
673 |
| transcript.whisperx[231].text |
你澎哥還有在下皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].start |
673 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].end |
675 |
| transcript.whisperx[232].text |
萊亞還有在下皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].start |
675 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].end |
677 |
| transcript.whisperx[233].text |
所以你的櫻桃、草莓 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].start |
677 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].end |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[234].text |
那是可怕你如果 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].start |
679 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].end |
680 |
| transcript.whisperx[235].text |
有殘影的榮耀 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].start |
680 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].end |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[236].text |
那是一架洗一洗就吃下去了 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].start |
683 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].end |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[237].text |
那個蘋果其實我們 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].start |
685 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].end |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[238].text |
去測的時候也是整顆在測的 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].start |
688 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].end |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[239].text |
不是說把它削皮 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].start |
690 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].end |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[240].text |
如果真的國人有擔心 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].start |
691 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].end |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[241].text |
沒有啦我說我們吃的習慣 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].start |
694 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].end |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[242].text |
我要說的是 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].start |
695 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].end |
697 |
| transcript.whisperx[243].text |
你只聽美國人說 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].start |
697 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].end |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[244].text |
美國人不怕死的 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].start |
698 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].end |
699 |
| transcript.whisperx[245].text |
每天放寬 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].start |
699 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].end |
701 |
| transcript.whisperx[246].text |
每天都黑白吃 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].start |
701 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].end |
703 |
| transcript.whisperx[247].text |
國人報告我吃蘋果 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].start |
703 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].end |
705 |
| transcript.whisperx[248].text |
也是都吃皮的 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].start |
705 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].end |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[249].text |
每天一顆蘋果今天忘了帶來 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].start |
708 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].end |
711 |
| transcript.whisperx[250].text |
沒有啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].start |
711 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].end |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[251].text |
嚴格的evaluation一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].start |
714 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].end |
719 |
| transcript.whisperx[252].text |
不要讓國人、百姓會擔憂 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].start |
719 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].end |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[253].text |
當然是會擔憂啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].start |
720 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].end |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[254].text |
你一下子從那麼低 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].start |
722 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].end |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[255].text |
0.5一下跳到3.0 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].start |
724 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].end |
725 |
| transcript.whisperx[256].text |
我第一個問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].start |
725 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].end |
728 |
| transcript.whisperx[257].text |
你會不會直接調5.0跟美國切齊 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].start |
728 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].end |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
那不是更好 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].start |
730 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].end |
732 |
| transcript.whisperx[259].text |
對美國有交代 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].start |
732 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].end |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[260].text |
跟委員特別報告一下 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].start |
734 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].end |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[261].text |
因為這個訂的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].start |
736 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].end |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[262].text |
是我們的管制標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].start |
738 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].end |
739 |
| transcript.whisperx[263].text |
其實在田間試驗 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].start |
739 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].end |
741 |
| transcript.whisperx[264].text |
我們邊境裡面看到的確 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].start |
741 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].end |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[265].text |
是一直都是合格的 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].start |
742 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].end |
743 |
| transcript.whisperx[266].text |
相對是更低的 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].start |
743 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].end |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[267].text |
所以我們的標準 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].start |
744 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].end |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[268].text |
並不會改變進來台灣的狀態 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].start |
748 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].end |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[269].text |
我想這部分也特別跟委員部 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].start |
750 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].end |
751 |
| transcript.whisperx[270].text |
進一步的報告 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].start |
751 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].end |
752 |
| transcript.whisperx[271].text |
好加強 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].start |
752 |
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753 |
| transcript.whisperx[272].text |
好謝謝 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].start |
756 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].end |
757 |
| transcript.whisperx[273].text |
謝謝蘇星全委的資訊 |