| IVOD_ID |
170661 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170661 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
26 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第26次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-22T11:23:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-22T11:30:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:34 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/7469000803f9b6aa2bf54460d1b03955ac6eb55d1aff011d44a10b38cb6ea4e79b6e307be05129615ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:23:36 - 11:30:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第26次全體委員會議（事由：併案審查行政院、司法院函請審議「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」等56案。
【詳見議事日程】
【7月22日及23日兩天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 那我們請這個法務部黃次長 |
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14 |
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好 請次長 |
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15 |
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25 |
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市長好 今天是在討論我們刑法第185條之三的一個修正案 |
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25 |
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29 |
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那這個其實就是針對獨價我們要加嚴加重嘛 |
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29 |
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33 |
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來做一個處理 那我先請教一下市長 |
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33 |
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38 |
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現在關於我們在這個185條之三第七項裡面 |
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38 |
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40 |
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有沒入車輛這個新的規定嘛 是不是 |
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40 |
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42 |
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對 沒收 |
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42 |
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44 |
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沒收這個車輛的新的規定 |
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44 |
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47 |
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那現在就是說獨價抓到了 |
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47 |
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49 |
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這樣車子就把它沒收嘛 是不是 |
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49 |
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52 |
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不是 我們的條文詞是這樣講 |
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52 |
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56 |
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是不是他被告行為人所有 還是第三人所有 |
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56 |
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59 |
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而沒有正當理由提供或取得的 |
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59 |
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62 |
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這個狀況是這樣 以免波及無辜啦 |
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62 |
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65 |
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不是所有的車輛一律的義務沒收 |
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65 |
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68 |
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不是這樣 我們條文的設計不是這樣 |
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68 |
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72 |
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那可是那個道交處罰條例咧 |
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72 |
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75 |
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那一部分就是 當然我們尊重交通部 |
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75 |
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78 |
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但是它的主管法規 它有不同的一個 |
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78 |
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80 |
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對 它是說主要是獨價 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
80 |
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83 |
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那那個車子就一律沒入嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
83 |
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84 |
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查扣概念 對 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].start |
84 |
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86 |
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對 就是扣車的意思嘛 |
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86 |
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88 |
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那你們跟他們不一樣嗎 |
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88 |
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90 |
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不一樣 對 不一樣 |
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90 |
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92 |
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我們是沒收 對 |
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92 |
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94 |
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它是查扣或是沒入行政 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
94 |
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98 |
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對 它就是等於是一致保管扣車嘛 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
98 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
99 |
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跟我們報告 它的道交條例 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
99 |
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101 |
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它也有適用行政程序法 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
101 |
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104 |
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它有一些故意或過失 一些沒有一個狀況 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
104 |
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106 |
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它也可以排除 不是一律沒收啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
106 |
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108 |
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它只是說不同的 |
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108 |
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110 |
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當場就先扣車啦 對不對 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
110 |
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112 |
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那這個是執法面的問題 對 |
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112 |
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114 |
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那就你們的部分來講咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].start |
114 |
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118 |
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我們的部分的話 如果說它在第一線 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
118 |
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120 |
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它有 如果未來文法通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].start |
120 |
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124 |
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它有這個 我們訂的那個四款自由 |
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124 |
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126 |
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那第一線的員警當然去問 |
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126 |
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129 |
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你提供車輛是不是有正當理由或沒有正當理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
129 |
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132 |
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第一線的執法人員他說判斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
132 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
133 |
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他會請示檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
133 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
135 |
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因為查扣扣押權是在檢察官 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
135 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
137 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
有檢察官去決定要不要查扣這台車子 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
137 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
143 |
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好 那所以說 就你們的條文來講的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
143 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
149 |
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就是說這個當場會把這個車子把它沒入嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
149 |
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152 |
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報委 沒收最後要經過法院的判決 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
152 |
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154 |
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在檢察官階段它也先查扣 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
154 |
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157 |
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查扣之後到底要不要確定沒收 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
157 |
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160 |
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法官要依照我們如果這些條文通過的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
160 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
163 |
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按照條文內容去做沒收與否的決定 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
163 |
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166 |
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那如果這個車子不是這個車主的咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
166 |
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169 |
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所以如果是第三人所以我們條文設計上說 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
169 |
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172 |
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他有沒有正當理由去持有這台車 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
172 |
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175 |
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如果說他是租來的或是第三人提供 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
175 |
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178 |
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那個第三人根本不知道你要去做獨駕 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
178 |
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179 |
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不可以波及無辜嘛 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
179 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
180 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
所以這個狀況之下 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
180 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
181 |
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我們條文設計上這種狀況下 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
181 |
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183 |
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我們就不讓他沒收 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
183 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
就不讓他沒收 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
184 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
186 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
所以就是把譬如說像租賃車這一種 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
186 |
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187 |
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就把它排外就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
187 |
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190 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
如果他租賃業者不知道的話 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
191 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
193 |
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他不知道你要開車進行競選 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
193 |
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195 |
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租賃業者我們假設他不知道 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
195 |
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197 |
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這個時候我們條設計上他就 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
197 |
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198 |
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這是有正當理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
198 |
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199 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
他只是一個有正當理由 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
199 |
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200 |
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所以你們也跟這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
200 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].end |
202 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].text |
道安處罰條例也是一樣的嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[73].start |
202 |
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203 |
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大致是一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[74].start |
203 |
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204 |
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大致一樣 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].start |
204 |
| transcript.whisperx[75].end |
206 |
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我是說因為現在同時留一兩步 |
| transcript.whisperx[76].start |
206 |
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208 |
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一個是刑法一個是道安 |
| transcript.whisperx[77].start |
208 |
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210 |
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因為它一個是行政法的規定 |
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210 |
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211 |
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我們就是刑法的規定 |
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211 |
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213 |
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它有不同的立法目的 |
| transcript.whisperx[80].start |
213 |
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215 |
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對阿第一個就是說 |
| transcript.whisperx[81].start |
215 |
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216 |
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車子保險罰沒收 |
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216 |
| transcript.whisperx[82].end |
219 |
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那他們是第一時間他們就可以扣車 |
| transcript.whisperx[83].start |
219 |
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220 |
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對他扣車一否 |
| transcript.whisperx[84].start |
220 |
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222 |
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他因為行政程序法有一個排除的規定 |
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222 |
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223 |
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原則上可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[86].start |
223 |
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225 |
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但是符合特殊狀況他也不可以扣 |
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225 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].end |
227 |
| transcript.whisperx[87].text |
行政程序法他有一個特別的規定 |
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227 |
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229 |
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那現在就是說好那有排除嘛 |
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229 |
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231 |
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就是說比如說像租賃業者 |
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231 |
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232 |
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對 |
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232 |
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234 |
| transcript.whisperx[91].text |
你們就會把它排除掉就對了 |
| transcript.whisperx[92].start |
234 |
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237 |
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如果符合我們先行法通過的話會 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].start |
237 |
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238 |
| transcript.whisperx[93].text |
對 |
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238 |
| transcript.whisperx[94].end |
240 |
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那可是道安處罰條例裡面的咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].start |
240 |
| transcript.whisperx[95].end |
243 |
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一樣我剛講過行政程序法 |
| transcript.whisperx[96].start |
243 |
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246 |
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它說道安處罰條例原則上 |
| transcript.whisperx[97].start |
246 |
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248 |
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原則上是要查過沒入 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].start |
248 |
| transcript.whisperx[98].end |
250 |
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但是行政程序法 |
| transcript.whisperx[99].start |
250 |
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251 |
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因為它是一個行政處分嘛 |
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251 |
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253 |
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它必須要回到行政程序法上面 |
| transcript.whisperx[101].start |
253 |
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254 |
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它有一個淡出的規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].start |
254 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].end |
256 |
| transcript.whisperx[102].text |
二十幾條裡面有一個淡出規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[103].start |
256 |
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258 |
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這個狀況對第三人的他又不可以 |
| transcript.whisperx[104].start |
258 |
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因為他除了這一個扣車之外 |
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他還有吊銷那個車牌 |
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對他還有這個相關的一些 |
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行政上面的一些 |
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行政法的一些規定 |
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對沒有錯 |
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好那就是同車的 |
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同車的人 |
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對同車的人 |
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就是說我們在酒駕的時候 |
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同車的人也有這個 |
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就是說如果他知道了 |
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然後沒有去勸阻 |
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那所以同車的人 |
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在酒駕這部分的話 |
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同車的人也會有罰款對不對 |
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現在獨駕同車的人 |
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同車的部分 |
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我們道安處罰條例 |
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他就同車他有 |
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刑法他有一個行政處罰的規定 |
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也要罰啦 |
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但是我們刑法不是這樣 |
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我們刑法它是行為人責任的概念 |
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除非你跟那個駕車人 |
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他有共犯有教唆犯有幫助犯 |
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我們刑法可以去共同處罰他 |
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如果只是單純的同駕 |
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他沒有翻譯的聯絡沒有教唆沒有幫助 |
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他不是行為人 |
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我們是行為人刑法 |
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所以不可以就這一個坐車的人 |
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他沒有這些翻譯聯絡 |
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我們就把他 |
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所以只有這個道安處罰條例的罰款就對了 |
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對對對他有特殊的行政處罰 |
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對因為我看他們這個酒駕有罰款 |
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那獨駕然後同車 |
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同車 |
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對我說同車啦 |
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酒駕同車有罰款 |
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那獨駕同車也有罰款 |
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但是呢 |
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如果要到刑事這邊的話 |
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就是你們好好看說有沒有 |
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翻譯的聯絡 |
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那就是說有沒有翻譯的聯絡 |
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有沒有去勸阻他 |
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有沒有告訴這個勸阻的一些義務在就對了 |
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他教唆他獨駕 |
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我同坐的你獨駕 |
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這個時候他是教唆犯 |
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教唆犯他就有刑責了 |
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可是我看那個道安處罰條例 |
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他不是這樣概念 |
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他是一個類似一個連帶子 |
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但是我不知道你有沒有看到 |
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他們那個獨駕跟酒駕罰錢進來是一樣的 |
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同行的人 |
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這個是他阻管法規 |
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因為我看都是6000到15000的罰款 |
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那交通阻管法規我們就尊重 |
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我覺得沒有多嚴格 |
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不是我指獨駕當然 |
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因為吸毒本身就是一個罪 |
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然後你吸毒然後再開車 |
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那當然罪會更重 |
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381 |
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他是另外一個罪 |
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對阿所以我們是在這個情況之下 |
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我們會把他弄得更重 |
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跟喝酒一樣 |
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387 |
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喝酒本身不違法 |
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389 |
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你喝酒開車就違法 |
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所以又不太一樣 |
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391 |
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393 |
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OK好謝謝 |
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395 |
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謝謝李委員 |