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鄭天財Sra Kacaw @ 第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第21次全體委員會議
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| 00:00:10,290 | 00:00:11,790 | 主席 各位委員 |
| 00:00:11,790 | 00:00:13,290 | 有請院長 |
| 00:00:13,290 | 00:00:15,290 | 好 有請院長 |
| 00:00:17,920 | 00:00:19,920 | 院長好久不見 |
| 00:00:19,920 | 00:00:20,920 | 好久不見 對 |
| 00:00:20,920 | 00:00:21,920 | 恭喜恭喜 |
| 00:00:23,350 | 00:00:26,350 | 好 這個今天中元宴的報告 |
| 00:00:26,350 | 00:00:29,350 | 這個特別要請中元宴 |
| 00:00:30,170 | 00:00:35,170 | 還有我們所有的中元所屬的相關的單位 |
| 00:00:36,570 | 00:00:38,570 | 這個中元宴很重要 |
| 00:00:39,370 | 00:00:41,370 | 我們看 我看了你的報告 |
| 00:00:41,370 | 00:00:44,370 | 也寫的非常多 很詳細 |
| 00:00:45,780 | 00:00:47,780 | 我們就看這一段 |
| 00:00:48,530 | 00:00:53,530 | 執行日治時期 台灣人類血以民族血史 |
| 00:00:53,530 | 00:00:56,530 | 這方面的一個研究 |
| 00:00:57,930 | 00:01:01,930 | 那日治時期的部分等一下我們也可以談談 |
| 00:01:02,790 | 00:01:04,789 | 那日治時期之前 |
| 00:01:06,130 | 00:01:09,130 | 台灣的原住民族 |
| 00:01:09,720 | 00:01:11,720 | 所碰到的這些很多的 |
| 00:01:13,250 | 00:01:15,250 | 這是 |
| 00:01:15,240 | 00:01:17,240 | 歷程或是歷史 |
| 00:01:18,420 | 00:01:19,420 | 那一位沒有 |
| 00:01:20,090 | 00:01:21,090 | 到目前為止 |
| 00:01:21,090 | 00:01:23,090 | 就是因為不完整 |
| 00:01:23,830 | 00:01:24,830 | 不完整 |
| 00:01:24,830 | 00:01:25,830 | 無論是中元宴 |
| 00:01:26,700 | 00:01:27,700 | 或者是博士館 |
| 00:01:29,500 | 00:01:31,500 | 就是因為對原住民族的 |
| 00:01:31,500 | 00:01:33,500 | 五十日治時期 |
| 00:01:33,840 | 00:01:35,840 | 或者是日治時期之前 |
| 00:01:36,930 | 00:01:37,930 | 不夠完整 |
| 00:01:39,210 | 00:01:41,210 | 所以 |
| 00:01:40,570 | 00:01:43,570 | 我們政府機關所建築的成立的 |
| 00:01:44,790 | 00:01:45,790 | 所以說公共電視 |
| 00:01:47,560 | 00:01:49,560 | 他 |
| 00:01:48,710 | 00:01:50,710 | 去開發一個電影 |
| 00:01:50,760 | 00:01:52,760 | 好 我們看 |
| 00:01:53,300 | 00:01:54,300 | 思考囉 |
| 00:01:55,590 | 00:01:57,590 | 公共電視 |
| 00:01:57,820 | 00:01:59,820 | 政府的錢 人民的錢 |
| 00:02:00,550 | 00:02:03,550 | 結果對原住民傷害非常非常的大 |
| 00:02:05,430 | 00:02:06,430 | 他就根據一個 |
| 00:02:07,660 | 00:02:08,660 | 編輯 |
| 00:02:09,430 | 00:02:10,430 | 導演就根據什麼 |
| 00:02:10,430 | 00:02:11,430 | 一個小說 |
| 00:02:12,360 | 00:02:14,360 | 就根據一個小說就這樣 |
| 00:02:15,770 | 00:02:17,770 | 好 |
| 00:02:16,920 | 00:02:18,920 | 就是因為我們自己 |
| 00:02:20,330 | 00:02:22,330 | 自己手沒有寫出來嘛 |
| 00:02:23,690 | 00:02:26,690 | 只有一個小說加寫的 |
| 00:02:26,690 | 00:02:27,690 | 他就根據這個 |
| 00:02:28,560 | 00:02:31,560 | 就對原住民的傷害非常非常的大 |
| 00:02:33,440 | 00:02:34,440 | 當時 |
| 00:02:35,350 | 00:02:38,350 | 屏東馬家鄉良商部落的你頭目 |
| 00:02:39,740 | 00:02:40,740 | 蔡依珊 |
| 00:02:41,520 | 00:02:43,520 | 也是平中國小老師 |
| 00:02:44,650 | 00:02:45,650 | 他就做了一個 |
| 00:02:46,330 | 00:02:48,330 | 很 |
| 00:02:47,670 | 00:02:48,670 | 沉重的一個 |
| 00:02:50,060 | 00:02:51,060 | 說明 |
| 00:02:52,680 | 00:02:54,680 | 這個就是我們自己國家 |
| 00:02:55,160 | 00:02:57,160 | 有中研院有國史館 |
| 00:02:58,330 | 00:03:00,330 | 就是沒有做很到現在沒有啊 |
| 00:03:02,230 | 00:03:05,230 | 沒有針對思考囉當時事件 |
| 00:03:05,230 | 00:03:07,230 | 所發生的前因後果 |
| 00:03:07,230 | 00:03:09,230 | 或是相關的這些史實 |
| 00:03:09,870 | 00:03:10,870 | 到現在還是沒有 |
| 00:03:12,660 | 00:03:14,660 | 這個就是我們要啟明中研院 |
| 00:03:16,340 | 00:03:18,340 | 怎麼樣跟國史館共同的去 |
| 00:03:20,130 | 00:03:22,130 | 去去去推動 |
| 00:03:23,430 | 00:03:25,430 | 所以這樣的一個情形之下 |
| 00:03:25,740 | 00:03:27,740 | 我就不多說 |
| 00:03:27,740 | 00:03:29,740 | 我就講那個 |
| 00:03:29,130 | 00:03:31,130 | 被 |
| 00:03:30,060 | 00:03:32,060 | 在這個世界裡面思考了這個電影裡面 |
| 00:03:33,630 | 00:03:35,630 | 被捧的很高的 |
| 00:03:35,830 | 00:03:36,830 | 就李仙德 |
| 00:03:38,290 | 00:03:39,290 | 他是美國人 |
| 00:03:39,860 | 00:03:41,860 | 李仙 李仙德 |
| 00:03:42,060 | 00:03:43,060 | 是美國人 |
| 00:03:43,340 | 00:03:44,340 | 被捧的高高的 |
| 00:03:45,040 | 00:03:47,040 | 但是對我們原住民來講他是一個 |
| 00:03:47,040 | 00:03:49,040 | 對我們非常傷害很大 |
| 00:03:50,800 | 00:03:52,800 | 大家可能還不知道為什麼傷害很大 |
| 00:03:54,000 | 00:03:56,000 | 因為李仙德在思考囉事件 |
| 00:03:57,430 | 00:03:59,430 | 結束之後 |
| 00:03:59,080 | 00:04:01,080 | 他跑到日本 |
| 00:04:01,920 | 00:04:03,920 | 日本去推動 |
| 00:04:03,960 | 00:04:05,960 | 產生的發生了這個 |
| 00:04:06,730 | 00:04:08,730 | 牡丹式事件 |
| 00:04:08,990 | 00:04:10,990 | 牡丹式事件就是這樣 |
| 00:04:10,990 | 00:04:12,990 | 李仙德到 |
| 00:04:12,900 | 00:04:14,900 | 就認為說 |
| 00:04:14,860 | 00:04:16,860 | 他就開創了什麼呢 |
| 00:04:20,010 | 00:04:22,010 | 日本為什麼會主張升番帝為無主之地 |
| 00:04:23,670 | 00:04:25,670 | 就是李仙德 |
| 00:04:25,670 | 00:04:27,670 | 在日本去推動了 |
| 00:04:29,070 | 00:04:31,070 | 所以這個部分就是 |
| 00:04:32,820 | 00:04:34,820 | 為了特別 |
| 00:04:35,250 | 00:04:37,250 | 讓我們 |
| 00:04:36,430 | 00:04:38,430 | 院長知道 |
| 00:04:38,060 | 00:04:40,060 | 在你當副總統的時候 |
| 00:04:40,380 | 00:04:42,380 | 我們的蔡總統說 |
| 00:04:43,770 | 00:04:45,770 | 有一本書叫做《台灣通史》 |
| 00:04:46,420 | 00:04:48,420 | 他的戲演第一段提到 |
| 00:04:48,420 | 00:04:50,420 | 台灣故如史也 |
| 00:04:50,420 | 00:04:52,420 | 何人啟之正是坐之 |
| 00:04:52,420 | 00:04:54,420 | 清代吟之 |
| 00:04:54,310 | 00:04:56,310 | 這剛就是 |
| 00:04:56,310 | 00:04:58,310 | 沒有把台灣原住民放在 |
| 00:04:59,070 | 00:05:01,070 | 裡面了 |
| 00:05:00,050 | 00:05:02,050 | 所以要去處理啊 |
| 00:05:02,050 | 00:05:04,050 | 結果到現在還是沒有 |
| 00:05:04,050 | 00:05:06,050 | 我用這個來免利 |
| 00:05:07,320 | 00:05:09,320 | 我們中元宴 |
| 00:05:11,070 | 00:05:13,070 | 包括我們的南島也是一樣 |
| 00:05:14,700 | 00:05:16,700 | 南島民族 |
| 00:05:16,520 | 00:05:18,520 | 台灣是原住民 |
| 00:05:18,520 | 00:05:20,520 | 南島民族的發言地 |
| 00:05:21,700 | 00:05:23,700 | 我們現在只能一用 |
| 00:05:24,870 | 00:05:26,870 | 國外的 |
| 00:05:26,440 | 00:05:28,440 | 學者的資料 |
| 00:05:28,440 | 00:05:30,440 | 讓我們自己呢 |
| 00:05:30,660 | 00:05:32,660 | 所以這個部分 |
| 00:05:32,660 | 00:05:34,660 | 中元宴國事館 |
| 00:05:34,440 | 00:05:36,440 | 共同的來去 |
| 00:05:36,440 | 00:05:38,440 | 共同的來去整合 |
| 00:05:38,440 | 00:05:40,440 | 這些資源 |
| 00:05:40,420 | 00:05:42,420 | 可以嗎院長 |
| 00:05:42,420 | 00:05:44,420 | 其實中元宴在原住民族的 |
| 00:05:44,420 | 00:05:48,420 | 文化知識傳統的研究 |
| 00:05:48,420 | 00:05:50,420 | 也有不少 |
| 00:05:50,420 | 00:05:52,420 | 然後我們像剛才 |
| 00:05:52,420 | 00:05:54,420 | 吳釗偉在講到我們 |
| 00:05:54,420 | 00:05:56,420 | 跟這個部落的 |
| 00:05:56,420 | 00:05:58,420 | 工作的這個部分 |
| 00:05:58,420 | 00:06:00,420 | 也有在進行 |
| 00:06:00,420 | 00:06:02,420 | 當然您剛才提到 |
| 00:06:02,420 | 00:06:04,420 | 那一本書 |
| 00:06:04,420 | 00:06:06,420 | 的情況 |
| 00:06:06,420 | 00:06:08,420 | 確實是一本小說 |
| 00:06:08,420 | 00:06:10,420 | 那是我們 |
| 00:06:10,420 | 00:06:12,420 | 完整的史實的參考 |
| 00:06:12,420 | 00:06:14,420 | 那中元宴這邊來鼓勵 |
| 00:06:14,420 | 00:06:16,420 | 看我們的同仁 |
| 00:06:16,420 | 00:06:18,420 | 會不會對這一些以往的 |
| 00:06:18,420 | 00:06:20,420 | 原住民相關的史料 |
| 00:06:20,420 | 00:06:22,420 | 做更深入的來探討 |
| 00:06:22,420 | 00:06:24,420 | 要共同的去堆墮跟故事 |
| 00:06:24,420 | 00:06:26,420 | 像那個部落歷史 |
| 00:06:26,420 | 00:06:28,420 | 我過去在 |
| 00:06:28,420 | 00:06:30,420 | 業民會當副主委的時候 |
| 00:06:30,420 | 00:06:32,420 | 就協調國事館 |
| 00:06:32,420 | 00:06:34,420 | 就開始堆動 |
| 00:06:33,560 | 00:06:35,560 | 整個部落歷史 |
| 00:06:35,560 | 00:06:37,560 | 整個所有部落歷史 |
| 00:06:37,560 | 00:06:39,560 | 都完整的話 |
| 00:06:39,560 | 00:06:41,560 | 就是整個台灣原住民族的歷史 |
| 00:06:41,560 | 00:06:43,560 | 所以跟原民會 |
| 00:06:43,560 | 00:06:45,560 | 還有跟文化部 |
| 00:06:45,560 | 00:06:47,560 | 我們也會來討論 |
| 00:06:47,560 | 00:06:49,560 | 一起合作 |
| 00:06:49,560 | 00:06:51,560 | 謝謝政天才委員的指示 |