| IVOD_ID |
170580 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170580 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-20T10:26:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-20T10:34:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/09ae2675330bc1e5f3d55556546ff82233c80af58084ea9966d138d5aa97db626f4542d4ee7965655ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝龍介 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:26:00 - 10:34:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央研究院院長陳建仁列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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介龍介委員進行詢答主席的官請擔任議長來 有請院長小議員你好議長你好 先後 |
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人家說 以前人家說 神信靈 義聖靈是鋼骨啦你這樣了解?我台語沒說很好啦 你的台語又不好 慘了神信靈 就是說用義聖信人啦 義聖靈是鋼骨啦 |
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你相信你就這樣 我的記憶你擔任議長的時候 我想要把你勤頂了表示你對你一生學術的研究 要勤頂了 |
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因為下面的人替你報告不一定是真的,我剛才說是這樣的,譬如說那陣子的瑞鎮部長,跟你說所謂請問請,開兩頁我都把事情解決了,到我這陣子你才知道,原來不是這樣,開差不多幾十頁的,整頁錢都開了,到今天還要每一年要付差不多七千多萬, |
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去維修那些機械所以擔任一位領導人不那麼簡單很辛苦,但是你的經歷到副總統行政議長以及到現在中央議員議長 |
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比大總統是有個子禮物不及啦我現在請教你一個價值性的,我剛才說,學術就是要求精嘛,要求精嘛,透過課堪嘛 |
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那麼過去說過的話當然人家會把你檢視啦不過從你從政敵中來你說的一些話我可以體諒那叫做政敵汙染但你現在出來你說你理會說這個你現在又回到學術界你所說的話就不一樣了所以我現在正式請教你假如你擔任中華民國的總統如果這樣你會從意來在我面前報告 |
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我沒有可能當時是中華民國的總統對 我說這學生就是要加薪嘛加薪之後去求情嘛對不對加薪 你是中華民國的總統你會來 當建林總統會來立法院報告嗎 |
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加上一個陣地啦這個陣地就要可以勝利嘛加陣地就不可能勝利嘛所以說我就沒有辦法我們回答你的問題我說世間沒有那個不可能的啦哪有那個什麼不可能你說你最好一個公職就夠行政移調你啊今天不是再來啊我是做這是一個我剛才有回答過嘛這是一個核實研究但是這是行政支部喔行政支部行政支部所以如果要看你比較開的 |
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料敵從寬,看得冷的,不是公職,但是要看得嚴格的,也是四位公職人所以我不是跟你說,阿卡蘇你是單見林總統,依照現在憲法的報告,包括像羅總統他在選舉的時候,他也說他願意來立法院面對,但是到現在沒有,沒有是他的選舉啦 |
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如果是你,你會來嗎?我跟你說過我就不可能做總統了,除了這個家庭不成立啦先對這個食品安全,卡蘇利現在你做過了,行政議長你做過了嘛卡蘇利是行政議長,對著一個油品對專民這麼嚴肅食安這麼嚴重的問題,到今天你第二十一天,沒進食 |
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那麼在過程中你不覺得有很多要懷疑的事你不需要去批評你的同志啦就是說整個的行政定數我到上禮拜二在向行政議員請教的時候我說這個時候已經15天了我說台灣人民齁民心洪洪機台聽到你一句道歉有一個抱歉 |
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他大手氣我相信你做行政一定不會這樣對 道歉不是說 |
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直接聯合一個報復新聞嘛,是針對這個事情,讓人民吃了不會心安不安不然可能報復說,雞排也吃太多啦,什麼也吃太多啦沒意思,你怎麼知道全台灣,我請教你做研究,研究這麼多全台灣,只有鹹酥雞跟雞排在生活的家庭有多少,你怎麼知道 |
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這是有夠多的,大街商行都有看的所以你怎麼可以說,你不要吃就不要吃,那些人沒有幫人吃呢?我在說的是,在食品安全的事情,太多的問題 |
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二十一天還不算太多不可思議了到底是完了還是解定到今天沒有一個定論這個委員我可以回答一下嗎當然啦這如果是完了還是解定的問題這是科學的問題啦 |
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這也要很...我知道 你說要有時間 要表達 我跟你說 屬於輕重環節啦今天你三人檢視 貴姓檢視 跟一般平安的檢視速度是不一樣的對不對 |
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今天這個這麼重大啊怎麼可能像我這樣 像私人入土機一樣這個原料 原料也要有 當初的原料可以來檢驗 還有當初進口的那種內部的調查 你要深入 我那天 |
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當他在報告的時候 你知道嗎 他說這個中聯我們把罰款1億6千幾萬 南京罰款多少多少他說這個罰款的時候 報告喔 書名沒有喔他從頭到尾說這個中聯1億6千幾萬已經納入了我在現場聽 我聽到一個真正的聲音 |
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這麼嚴重的一個郵寵發生這個事情繳一個六千幾萬你還在這裡累輸不輸的在表揚這是台獨的問題尤其最高的行政修正所以我今天請教你就是說你做行政修正 可是今天你是行政議長當然 老總統也沒有問題不要說沒有人對這個事情有問題現在是要怎麼緊縮 |
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來把這個問題搜索,讓人民對食品的安全,回歸一層最安心,你有什麼建議?在食安五環裡面,就是溯源管制,就要找到它的源頭這在你裡面有講過的啊 |
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對 這是溯源管制 第二就是製程的管制嘛所以說這就是你剛才說的那兩點要怎麼找到污染的來源是對的第三個就是集合嘛 集合就是地方政府就要有電機的集合然後這個黑心廠商要加重處罰再來就是鼓勵這個食安的相關的全民 |
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所以說就是組織管理的這個部分呢 也希望說未來修法的時候 能夠比較嚴格人家說感傷嘛 無感不成傷 為了賺錢他敢這樣給我們按摩呢 犧牲我們的健康呢 |
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謝謝謝龍介委員的質詢 |