| IVOD_ID |
170484 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170484 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-15T12:06:09+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-15T12:14:03+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f097d2073855cd22f54b4de8a18c79aea7dabc8f267c39f72137d5325ab659884a3685e9cc37c4ee5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許忠信 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:06:09 - 12:14:03 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-15T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：邀請審計部陳審計長瑞敏、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、衛生福利部石部長崇良、教育部鄭部長英耀就「政府食品安全管理機制、食安五環與校園食安預算執行及審核結果」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【7月15日及16日兩天一次會】） |
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市長市長好委員好昨天行政院長的專案報告非常的累人所以我們教育部正部長以及我們衛務部時部長今天都請假沒有他時部長在樓下八樓的委員會那麼我們現場我從一開始做到結束 |
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我只喝一杯咖啡提神真的很累人 我在學習所以本席對這個東西外行但是我要來根據我們立法委員最重要的我們五環 未環的五環一年的預算一一四年四七點多一點點一那麼一一五年也是四七點 |
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五億多我們一年這麼多錢效用何在今天是我要來跟各位報告如何來尊潔如何來增效我們用這個所謂的污染油的事件來做例子這種高風險的產品為例請問次長我們那些回收的所謂毒油做什麼用 |
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我們現在都要求他們回來,就是回收,回收之後他們後續至於他們要做什麼樣的處理,他當然不能再做食品啊?當然,我們要監督,不能再流到我們的食品的體系。以英國人的立場,英國人認為這是一個地球的資源,他不可能把它銷毀的,他會把它做燃料。 |
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加以充分的應用這就是一個有效能的政府應該做到的程度而我們很顯然政府在這裡沒有做到我們五環裡面我只提出三環出來談因為中央與地方這個合作查緝這個 |
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根據昨天的專案報告立法委員國民黨的推給中央民進黨的推給台中所以我不談啦 我不談這種東西我今天來立法院的時間很珍貴我希望把我所知道的盡量的來跟各位做報告我講話媒體不會報藍也不報 綠也不報但是我只要能夠跟你做報告我就覺得非常的值得 |
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第一環源頭管理就國內的源頭我們農委會一年花了22億做了產品履歷驗證檢驗行銷推廣但是我們農委會對地理標示權這種Geographical Interaction非常重要的提升產品的生育品質的機制 |
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卻不了解所以22億其實沒有多少效用那麼我們國外進來的源頭我們今天的沈紀長陳審紀長的報告寫得非常好把很多問題點都點出來我讀了以後非常的高興他說邊境的查驗人力不足而且人員留不住 |
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所以行政院長他昨天提到要強化源頭的檢驗那如何來達到這個做法其實在國際上這種國際貿易都用裝船潛檢查BSI就可以從源頭在外國就擋住有問題的產品而我們的政府機關卻對這種機制國際貿易上流行的機制分不清 |
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第二個我們以個人的名義分批業者以個人名義分批進口進來轉售的我們陳審計長說欠缺邊境的管理機制我們如何透過網路資訊來建立管理機制我這個能不能讓我多幾分鐘我寫了一個早上的東西讓我那個禁訴我禁訴我禁訴 |
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第二環我們的產自銷的聯我們以中聯跟泰山一個是上游一個是中游我們部分業者為落實主動的通報 |
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這個因為我們沒有善用這些產油的工會工會自律然後由工會去申請團體商標這些業者如果不自律的剔除工會沒辦法做這個貿易做這個交易這是英國人是這樣做的第二個我們通報要件跟通報的實現是行政院長認為要建立的您今天早上的報告也有提到 |
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通報如果只是公司的負責人他會演繹但是通報義務人如果是有職長的受僱人他為了自保他會去通報我們都把他稱為是吹哨子其實他不是吹哨子他是他有義務在保險法上這種公司的受僱人如果知道保險事故發生他也有告知義務 |
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所以我們行政院在這裡專業不足那麼我們現在要製程以及我們的製程方法基準以及如果製程改變要經過審核 |
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我要提醒行政院很多高技術的製程它都是Process它都是營業秘密我們在要求它建立基準以及揭露的時候不能侵害他們的營業秘密權我們前一陣子這一兩個禮拜 |
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行政院長非常的雷厲風行但是我要在這裡扮演一個輔導長的角色我們對企業的需求他們的智慧財產權的保護還是要兼顧然後我們的稽查的檢驗要建立第三方驗證我快要結束這個第三方驗證誰互惠次長您知道要誰互惠政府互惠 |
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我們現在廠商本來就要自主做檢驗這是我們依法有要求的他自己檢驗他現在是第三方驗證送外投驗證誰互惠國內有第三方檢驗機構業者互惠還是政府互惠業者互惠那業者互惠會變成受驗證的機構他有義務衝突一方面要告訴政府一方面要進到他受認人 |
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所以各位我們在這裡可以發展證明標章這個制度讓這個驗證業者他有證明標章他除了收取驗證的報酬以外他的標章權值得他去維護他就自然的會去落實他的驗證的工作驗證的機構他們都有要定期拿保護套謝謝我們就結束這個是我讀書二十幾年 |
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累積下來可以運用到本案的 |