| IVOD_ID |
170405 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170405 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-20-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
21 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-09T10:44:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-09T10:57:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/819c86070d9120f736262ec3ff3856d0c6cfcebe9e655170142d3e502dfb7fe1b5955a0c0d9861e65ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李彥秀 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:44:20 - 10:57:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期財政委員會第21次全體委員會議（事由：邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍就「股市、通膨、匯率與房市多重風險中，中央銀行中長期因應策略與政策工具」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【7月8日及9日兩天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席我可不可以請總裁總裁喝口水辛苦了慢慢來沒關係 |
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6月18號我們央行的理監事會最後決定整個6月調整維持不變但是我要跟總裁討論一下就是說最近我也看到報導就是說我們最近的CPI連續已經高於2雖然整體大環境我覺得整體物價控制得不錯油價看起來好像 |
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最近都已經回檔但是我們都知道很多物品有它的僵固性一漲之後就已經回不來了包括我們房租、外食我最近很多國外的朋友回來就是說現在在外面吃東西感受上比過去價格高了很多所以總裁我要跟總裁討論說我們的政策工具你覺得到底足不足夠 |
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你選擇的政策工具到底足不足夠我想呢就是說政策工具是足夠的啊因為剛剛我也講了就是說如果說這個通膨的主要的來源是因為是供給面 |
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那如果說是供給面包括是油價啦還有那個進口的物價所以不用去管現在物價的物價外食族房租的漲幅越來越高你覺得不用管就讓他自由去發展我們 |
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當然它也會漲因為跟著國際情勢的變化油價的浮動前一陣子漲上去那現在好像油價回落了但是很多東西一漲上去就回不來了你很清楚一般是這樣的但是也就是說 |
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我們在project明年的時候呢也會都會考慮這一點啦所以你總裁你的意思告訴我說未來你們會考量那你們也會有政策跟工具把這個也納入考量去做調整是是是是那當然那當然好謝謝總裁你的 |
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就是說我覺得整體無論是我們打房就是說央行對於整體國家的貨幣政策也好或者是整體信用或流動性的貨幣我們是一個最終管制的機關所以你的工具政策非常重要剛才我聽到你回應其他幾個委員就是說房市過熱我可以有信用管制來打房 |
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那股市過任反而是我剛剛聽到說不會啦金管會可以管啦他有很多教育宣導讓大家不要一直全部都投下去但是我要提醒總裁其實相對的央行是整體信用跟流動性的最終管制機關 |
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其實我們政策工具還是有的為什麼我這麼說就是說我們在6月3號我們央行標售了364天的定存單標售1400億那在今年6月3號其實非常奇怪我們還有剩103億元反而流標 |
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這個是過去比較沒常看到的那特別是6月25號我們的新聞稿當中我也看到我們在第7月8月9月這一次的一年的364天定期存單我們反而減發到1200億元這個是您對外說明的這是短期的計數因素這是也代表著我們央行在貨幣政策偏向緊縮 |
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我們是偏向緊縮但是我們也要因應市場上所以你不放那麼多錢到市場上去也管制嗎所以我剛說其實你是有政策工具所以你還是有嘛我想請教總裁你第四季是不是也會持續的 |
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貨幣政策警說 朝這方向去走我們過來是第三季啦 九月份啦那接下來第四季呢第四季也一樣的 就是說我們是一季一季檢討嘛三個月的觀察期我知道 那接下來是不是都是這樣 |
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還是看股市的狀況你會再做調整對 我們會密切的注意它要做怎麼樣的一個調整所以你不要說你沒有政策工具其實你是有政策工具的有有有好 謝謝總裁那剛才 |
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剛才賴秀文說你都順順的其實你有你的性格跟風格包括那個之前我們說彭總才有他的風格在其實你是有的我把你評為說你是Mr. |
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Surprise其實你是有你個人風格的 |
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當然新的美國聯準會主席他也非常有風格Kevin Walsh他也非常有風格包括他在取消前瞻性的指引這件事情這個對全球未來市場的估計跟變化就會非常的大總裁你同意我的說法嗎他取消前瞻性你怎麼看待這件事情 |
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我想就是說一個工具的使用它有它的背景我就說像說 現在你簡短回答因為我其實 我有很多問題想要請問我的意思是說在本能基它用這個點陣圖的時候是有它的一個背景但是到目前的時候呢 我要許說現在可能可以不必要這些點陣圖了 |
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但是他的這個利率的點證圖預測對我們來說就有影響啊對對對 但是問題在這裡就是說因為到目前為止呢因為你的點證圖會讓人家覺得那個Fed他的一個態度就是這樣子而且會 |
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所以你是支持他基本上我是支持的你是支持好那你支持這個就尊重因為這是他的決定嘛美國聯準會的決定但是相對的就是說 |
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WASH它主導的這個芒飛的時代我們過去我們央行都是以平滑匯率的管理方法論來去做我們匯率調整因為我們跟美國的匯率對台灣的進出口影響其實都非常的大所以面對這樣子的WASH的新的政策 |
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的方式我們央行在大政策下有什麼樣的調整我跟委員報告事實上FED的點陣圖往往會跟市場的預期有些時候會不一樣 |
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那如果說是在這種情況之下呢你是指往往還是大多數還是通常都不一樣我說最近你是指最近因為最近市場最近因為不只是就是說過最近這一兩年來其實是國際情勢的變化那但是大方向上它 |
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如果沒有最近這個美伊的戰爭油價的變化其實它是一個很重要的指標我非常同意那個委員的意思對 所以它的指標還是重要的是所以我在想說這分兩塊來講國際的特殊狀況對 |
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我們應該有一個因應的方式但是依照過去我們央行對匯率政策的調整美國的聯準會的方向確實是對我們一個很重要的參考我這個我同意啦我非常同意 |
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對事實上委員您的分析是正確的只有說現在變成一個非常uncertainty的情況之下而且它的經濟情況已經到達所以你輪轉會的因應我們央行的因應是什麼這是我第一個問題我直接把我的問題都用完這是我第一個問題 |
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面對WashTown這樣子 芒飛時代的這個他拿掉前瞻點我們的新的因應政策是無論是對於國際快速的變化或過去一般的變化我們的調整是這是我第一個問題我有兩個問題那第二個問題就是說像這兩天這個美伊的戰爭那個停火協議又馬上又拿掉了所以匯率高高低低那假設兩岸的局勢的變化國際情勢的變化 |
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我們有沒有一個外匯流動的警戒值我們的壓力到底在哪裡我們警戒值的警戒值到底在哪裡我們有沒有這樣的一個警戒值 央行的介入我非常想知道另外對於上半年你看一下子匯率 |
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變化那麼大那當然最近看起來又回到32但是對於我們的出口商每個月要付錢又要訂單那個真的是每天都是膽戰心驚所以對於32塊對他是有利啊就是說 |
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妳可以回答我說現在已經回到平穩但是對於出口商 供給機械來說每個月訂單原料它其實都是膽戰心驚因為我這一批訂單的時候我能不能賺錢我都不知道過去可以賺錢同樣的數目是可以賺錢的訂單一樣多的數量可能但是這個月卻不一定可以賺錢所以面對匯率的國際情勢的大變化不可控的因素 |
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我們怎麼樣我們有沒有一個協助有沒有一個什麼樣協助或幫忙這些匯率變化包括我們的工具機我們的最重要的全產業最近有一句話除了AI之外其他所有產業都是BI所以總裁這幾個問題你可不可以具體回應第三個問題我先回答你就說像這種匯率 |
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包括我們有沒有機會像我們在疫情期間我們有一個定向融通的專案貸款機制啦這些我覺得是可以幫忙的所以我剛才講除了AI之外現在其他產業都是BI所以我覺得這個是可以思考的 |
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我說啦就是說匯率穩定對我們出口商是非常有利的啦那基本上你要看看新台幣匯率他是跟其他主要貨幣來講我們這個報告都有講啊我們都比韓元日元那個美元我還是希望你直接回應我 |
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我們在第二季沒有提高利率第一個我們也是考慮到就傳統產業對不對所以我們就說偏緊 |
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整體國際市場的變化對於這些傳產業機械工具已經是受傷你有沒有去思考過所以我才剛才提到說我覺得我問剛剛幾位委員提到的無論是房市的問題城鄉的差距各縣市的變化 |
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我覺得總裁都應該多去走動走動了解真正市場上的需求我們傳產業也是過去我們台灣靠這些傳產中小企業撐起來但是如果在這一波我們沒有對中小企業的貸款專案我們沒有一個定向融通的機制或專案的機制我覺得 |
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台灣看起來我們的經濟產業很好什麼經濟成長到9%其實很多產業其實都苦苦愛好所以我才會提出我們疫情期間事實上我們有定向融通有一個特別的綠綠來幫助這些傳產業我覺得應該去做這樣的思考 |
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謝謝 謝謝委員的建議不過我也跟委員報告事實上經濟部據我了解他對中小微的企業融資的問題他們也都有在協助 |
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包括你看主力總書才最近不是也推出了一個八年一千億有沒有中小企業的那個好謝謝總裁其實我覺得面對局勢我最後一句話面對整理局勢的變化還有新的美國人總會主席上任我覺得我們未來應該建立一套新的精準貨幣政策工具我覺得應該去思考朝這樣子的方向去做調整會好謝謝總裁謝謝 |
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謝謝燕秀委員 |