| IVOD_ID |
170275 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170275 |
| 日期 |
2026-07-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-35-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第25次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
25 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第25次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-07-06T09:52:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-07-06T09:59:58+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:16 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/09e0feae5cc9a38aafb6054d108b363d28d6d5ac23ac785a65f68dd013ee40a54d2da20803297bd05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳永康 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:52:42 - 09:59:58 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-07-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第25次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家安全局局長蔡明彥、內政部、法務部報告「新興毒品走私之國安情資整合與跨國緝毒協同作為」，併請海洋委員會海巡署、財政部關務署、國防部憲兵指揮部列席，並備質詢。） |
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主席有請國安局蔡局長請蔡局長謝謝主席 初仁早 局長早 |
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今天的這個討論的題目我想就從國安層級來看目前看到的影響國家安全治安公共安全的衝擊社會資源還有健保的負擔青年世代剛才你也提到了如果這種不能控制的話是變成國力的衰退是一個很嚴肅的問題 |
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那麼國境安全的壓力那我特別要從這個國內挑戰的部分來三個面向請局長做點回應在技術面法規面 |
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這個戰情整合面那我們特別看那個紅字的部分我想就請局長就這個紅字的部分您做一個說明目前我們在如何強化因為剛剛已經在整合的問題上面填到了我們的能力但是長遠看量能需要有更大的投資跟整合跨部會我想您是不是就紅色部分您做一個回應 |
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那在那個所謂技術面法規面跟戰情整合面那特別是在戰情整合面那怎麼樣除了從歷來查緝的個案當中去整理出他的犯罪的手法跟樣態這大概是國安局從國安情報的角度當中可以做一些貢獻的 |
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那另外是在整體的區域的毒品的相關的一個傳散的一個流入那各個國家他們在分析這個毒品的流入過程當中有沒有看到一些新的趨勢那這部分我們會透過國際情報交流的方式來掌握相關的動態那再反過來跟我們國內的國安情報機關特別是有司法檢察權的國安情報機關來交換相關的意見 |
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那在技術面剛剛也跟羅美玲委員有稍微說明一下科技徵收手段不管在暗網的徵收或是其他的反毒包括無人機的一個運用那這部分也是我們在努力的一個重點那大概簡要的跟委員做以上的說明 |
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提出一个补充建议因为从技术面看因为很多我们需要跟地方的医学中心做合作事实上每一个大的医学院医学中心他们有一个很好的资料库你可以了解到医院里面不同等级的 |
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主治医师主任大夫或者是甚至是护理人员他根据他的个人的安全和合定的层级他可以进到去看病例去看他的背景看资料这个部分是不是我们将来在这方面需要跟这个医学院强化一些合作因为完全仰赖我们这个警检的中心或者做调查里面对这些毒品的专业分析有些实际上是超过我们的人力负荷 |
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好,謝謝委員提醒,所以我們也來注意一下醫療中心裡面對於相關這些數據案例的整體的分析好,謝謝那下面一個是不是我們請這個調查局的連副局長請調查局副局長 |
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我還是同樣提出就是說我們在做這個反毒的情境狀況下我們有官方甚至跟對岸的有在這個反毒的上面還是要有合作的空間一方面我們又 |
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要顾虑到对方面用毒品的渗透这是一个大面向但是另外就是小面向的执法上面你又跟对方还要有合作还是要在边境在小山通你要出去做集合司法跟情资上我们有落差这个部分您可不可以做一个解释就是像我们第二条的红字部分 |
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跟委員報告,就是有關兩岸的這個情資往來部分其實我們只要有發現案件的情資有涉及到大陸的部分的話我們都會積極的就是透過我們的管道傳送到大陸去,請他們來協助來協辦 |
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那如果在管轄权跟法规上有落差那在互相的沟通过程中会不会有解读这个双方意识不能够达到一种共识这个方法那我们的发现有一些从大陆渗透小三通带这个毒品过来但是我们回应到对方时候对方没有在他启动就是说反国之前就做集合那我们是被动接招这种方法有没有强化的空间 |
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跟委員報告目前我們情資往來部分其實我們有很多情資到大陸去之後那目前大陸都沒有積極的回應所以我們也是希望透過各種管道來共同來打擊這個毒品犯罪 |
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我想在引渡或共同审判面临政治上跟法律的双重考验一方面它是否定你的存在二方面但是我们也有些情知证明它内部也有一些贩毒的问题我们也可以做一个回溯在这个方面是不是可以点强化的空间 |
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是,委員所建議的這部分,我們回去會請法務部這邊來積極的跟委員回應因為我們調查局主要是針對這個打擊毒品犯罪為主,謝謝是,我想今天的問題主要是以國安的角度,從政策面大的格局來看這個問題它並不只單止於就是說我們每年激獲多少量這個一二三等 |
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各種級的最主要就是要強化我們內部不能夠再被毒品的滲透我想在這個理念上面我們大家有共同努力合作的空間那最後是不是請局長再做一個總結就是對我們今天這個議題上面強化這個合作的空間跨部會合作的空間 |
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我想反毒的問題他已經慢慢的從這種個案的司法案件的偵辦變成是一個社會治安社會安全那再提升到國家安全的一個層級那當然到這部分他可能還有涉及到除了有一些相關樣態的掌握以外資源的投入也會非常的重要 |
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我們有一些因應那個新的一些販毒的手法跟網絡那你要有更多的資源跟更多的人力的投入才有辦法能夠形成一個我們國內的一個反毒的一個防線所以這部分我想行政院在之前也有宣布一些比較具體的措施那這部分假如有需要我們國安單位來做配合我們會全力的支援用情報來支援我們的司法的查查以及用情報來支援我們反毒系統的一個建置 |
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今天这个议题是需要我们全国同胞共同努力,不能再让这种毒品在国内消耗我们的民心士气,迫害社会团结,尤其是像这毒价造成的结果,对民心的伤害太大,我们要共同努力。 |