| IVOD_ID |
170067 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170067 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-18T10:19:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-18T10:29:07+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ac5d42f4fd98837ad859a3e5b904bdf674651e55be1bd8f35dfbff722aff1dc55eb32057a8da52ca5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
魯明哲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:19:26 - 10:29:07 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－鐵道發展基金分預算。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－臺鐵局撥入資產及債務管理基金分預算。【一、本日會議僅進行詢答；二、兩基金預算提案截止收件時間為6月18日下午4時】
【6月17日及18日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席有請我們交通部武次長跟鐵道局楊局長好 請武次長跟楊局長好 謝謝兩位今天我們來複習一下功課追一下進度我們考驗鐵路地下化這真的是從我在這個市議員從市議員然後一路有緣來到我們立法院也是交通委員會等於每一年都在 |
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這個監督這個進度啊那當時我們在議員的時候其實最早聽到的聽到的大概是115年就今年啊今年我們桃園的鄉親啊就鐵路地下化享受了這樣的一個新的一個戰區 |
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那本來是15 16年當然來到立法院鐵道局之後你們原本的計畫那時候是18年到19年那當然這整個的過程我們都在我知道你們在新的一個修正計畫變成第一階段有五站在1122年預計通車 |
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然後第二階段另外三站在123年9月通車首先我再問一下這個看是次長還是局長那目前的時間的計畫有沒有什麼樣的調整麻煩說明一下 |
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跟委員報告目前還沒有調整還沒有是不是目前沒有還有有沒有信心啊我想因為修正計畫的核定會影響到這個122年的目標那我們希望修正計畫能夠盡快來核定 |
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好的 請問一下我們在桃園在桃園站文資的問題因為我們現在檢查所有的節點因為鐵路地下化一個地下軌道的工程其實只要有其中一站一站尤其主要軌道根本沒有做的話其實其他站你載好車也沒辦法通車那現在文資問題因為它正好是在地下文資問題解決進度如何說明一下好不好 |
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因為我覺得這整線通車一個非常重要的可能的延誤點我們也討論很多次有沒有最新的進度說明一下跟委員報告因為我們CJ12標就是桃園站的文資處理那挖掘計畫是已經得到通過就桃園市政文化局那所以我們現在在進行當中但是最重要的一個是移置計畫也就是要把這個相關挖掘出來的文資要做一個移置 |
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那這一部分呢文化局還沒有給我們審核通過那你們這樣去估算齁你們總是要去判斷啦好不好就是說你們因為在桃園站這樣的一個文字問題在整個桃園站區你們預估會造成多少天的延誤或者目前還在控制當中在控制當中啊 |
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我覺得要控制好我覺得這個的部分不管跟台灣市政府也好相關因為有些文資他是要外面的委員其實也不是說完全政府可以控制但是你這個進度真的真的要非常非常注意那再來就是我們看到了你現在新的計畫沒有變預計122年1月我們有五站通車可是這五站我們來看一下包含了 |
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下面有1的就是你們第一期預計第一期120年要完工的站我們看到了內地站有那框框的還沒發包的內地站還沒發包還有鳳鳴站所以第一階段我們先檢查第一階段有兩個列為第一期要完工的但他現在坦白講經費 |
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經費到底行政院長核定沒有啊還沒有現在遇到什麼困難好像送去很久了嘛之前模範委員在總諮詢的時候那時候已經是一個多月前了現在卡在哪裡還是我們這個院裡面有跟次長你們在討論什麼還是就是放在桌上 |
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沒有 結果我想這部分我們會後面再來跟行政院面再來大家請教一下看有哪些還要再做修正這其實是已經送到院裡面去申核了 |
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不過送到院裡面已經好一段時間了是不是你們今天會後啊你去了解一下嘛總是要有一個原因嘛對不對你不能放在那邊一個月兩個月三個月都沒有原因都不知道那到時候大家一定是會去怪行政院嘛那行政院他是有什麼樣的因素對不對合理的部分我覺得這個部分我們需要知道那這個部分在會後能不能幫我們去了解一下 |
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好那再來因為你要整個通車我們蠻擔心的因為這幾站因為整個軌道的你們預計第一階段通車那有一些站是第二階段通車那可想而知這些站是夾在中間的所以他那些站你們預估他第二階段通車但是他主結構 |
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跟軌道是必須要可以通的不然你的車根本鑽不過去嘛也因為它的站體後續有一些上面的工程在第二階段慢慢需要多一年但是你主結構這個的部分是肯定要搶先在第一階段的時候是要全線主結構是要通車這個局長你來說明一下是不是這樣 |
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沒有錯因為我們鐵路地下化下地之後就全部通通都要走到地下的隧道所以不管是第一階段還是第二階段的這個標案或者是車站那基本上路線上的結構跟隧道跟相關的機電耗資系統全部都要完成 |
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那你說明一下好不好因為之前我們有討論過因為你個人當時兩年前的時候覺得我們內地站甚至鳳鳴站還有桃園醫院站這三個還沒發包的你們說有特別說因為他可能要的工期會比較稍微短一點他這個站比較簡單所以後面趕得上來你可以給我一個至少的時間點 |
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譬如說今年年底我都沒有發包你到底 因為這時間表不能騙人啊你說三點之後還沒發包還趕得上來我不相信啦你覺得這個極限發包的極限你們就專業的角度好不好這三站最晚最晚什麼時候發包才趕得上這個整線你們目前的計畫 |
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市長我也了解我們內地站已經做完臨時軌的切換那按照工程的順序的話臨時軌切換完當然原來的這個舊的軌道地方要做拆除拆除完之後就要執行永久軌跟地下隧道的工程 |
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所以希望在下半年要能夠繼續的希望這半年能夠發包嘛 對不對是的我們拭目以待啦真的是要期待因為你要拖的話整個工程你即使不說我們最終目標沒有改變但你這個山寨沒有如果到一定節點沒有發包的時候就算你說這個我們目標還是這樣那坦白講那也是騙人的那再來你剛剛特別提到我們在零食鬼切換的整個過程4月28號 |
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造成大堵車啦不過我也要謝謝你們在你們在反應的過程中我們看到台鐵公司 鐵道局 桃園市政府大概在三四天以內就想出了很多的計畫讓這個事情慢慢的緩解但是我要拜託因為 |
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畢竟大家要解決啦我知道交通的黑暗期市民的朋友其實都有心理準備可是我覺得有些東西你要事先溝通因為在4月28號零失軌切換後面你們說因為你們切換主要是軌道內的事情所以在道安跟地方政府沒有經過一般的程序結果沒想到周邊的交通影響這麼大那在接下來你們施工的部分 |
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看到我們在116年到123年完工總共有九個平交道 九個地下道都會陸續的封閉其中有三個會一年以上一年以上有六個月到一年有九個那我這個的部分請務必鐵道局你不管這個跟桃園市政府相關的大安匯報這個應該會要去大安匯報吧 |
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跟委員報告要按照看他的交通維持的計畫不過我們會非常嚴謹的記取這次內地戰的這個教訓所以我們一定會把這個我要特別請你注意要跟你拜託你們在封的過程中你不要臨近的要特別避免你知道嗎你封了這個他要繞旁邊的你不要一次封兩個這種臨近的沒有這樣的的不會有這樣的事吧是 |
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稍微分開一點尤其有些主要像我們中壢浦中路地下道聽說今年要封大概要封多久你知道嗎他是辦辦事工他不會整個把它封掉對啊但是車道兩道可能變成單線怎麼樣 |
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這個交通維持計畫如何繞道這個部分一定要提前兩三個月就來跟地方政府其實我們現在就在跟地方政府在討論對要公告周知什麼時候開始好不好我們希望在減少一定不方便沒辦法交通黑暗級但是我們讓民眾先知道然後繞道怎麼樣一個維持的方式也事先規劃好拜託你好不好我們一定努力來做謝謝 |