| IVOD_ID |
170062 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170062 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-18T09:24:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-18T09:36:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ac5d42f4fd98837a3b18d952732fea4d74651e55be1bd8f35dfbff722aff1dc515f464262b5c365e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:24:42 - 09:36:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－鐵道發展基金分預算。
二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－臺鐵局撥入資產及債務管理基金分預算。【一、本日會議僅進行詢答；二、兩基金預算提案截止收件時間為6月18日下午4時】
【6月17日及18日二天一次會】） |
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好 主席謝謝 不過 主席我先這個程序發言啦 建議因為主席這個腳真的有點受傷啦我們是不是請示也讓大家知道主席是不是今天就不要再站了啦 你就坐下來啦那也讓大家知道是說他不是不尊重各位而是因為確實主席他這個右腳 欸 腳有受傷啦所以我想說心疼也這個尊重好 你請坐啦請坐好 |
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來 我們再請五次長好 請五次長 |
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好 來次長剛剛那個昆城委員關心也是本席所重視就是說今天早上台鐵苗栗到竹南現在有延誤單線通車我想兩個部分因為現在新聞看到還是有點混亂您剛剛講是說12點以前會恢復通車像我剛剛看到有新聞以及台鐵這邊講是說預計上午9點就恢復正常通車9點跟12點還差3個小時啊到底 |
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哪一個比較準我跟委員報告應該還沒有因為他那個繼續要去釣沒那麼容易他正好就在西征線上是西征要釣對這個整個要釣離因為他不是在車站區他在站間沒錯所以要釣離沒那麼容易旁邊沒有道路沒錯所以這部分應該我理解的應該因為現場畫面也出來了這個因為我沒有辦法 |
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同時間秀在上面但是大家應該也都看到現場畫面他其實在橋上的這個怪手翻覆而且翻覆的有點嚴重啊他是整個這樣子傾斜好那另外還有講到也是新聞報導馬上寫說連桃園站都貼出公告列車也受影響所以其實這個影響範圍不是只有竹南苗栗到竹南喔可能是更往 |
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北上南下都有受到影響會有一些低延的效應剛講會低延的效應越延當然到後面影響會越小那主要是在苗栗竹蘭間這個部分是西正線不能通在過去當然就通但是因為這邊的影響會往那邊一直擴散掉 |
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所以本席再一次具體建議因為我們一個月前也才發生高鐵延誤的事件當時我就有說不管高鐵台鐵都是我們很重要的大眾運輸那最重要的是即時的資訊清楚確認影響的範圍有多廣以及到底什麼時間點可以完成一定要讓民眾有最清楚的了解 |
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我們寧可料敵從寬因為如果說像剛剛我看到的上午九點就恢復正常通車那很顯然的這是過於樂觀的講法那可能對於譬如說早上十一點十二點他買對號座的車輛的民眾他也許覺得說早上九點就會恢復通車了沒想到他到了現場之後才發覺不是這麼一回事延誤的更久 |
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所以未來這個資訊的掌握統一的發布以及拜託媒體朋友傳遞最正確的訊息讓民眾知道這一點應該要更加強是 謝偉的提示我想剛剛提到資訊的正確及時我想這是我們後面會努力的好 那等一下是不是也請次長要責成我們相關單位趕快跟台鐵公司再聯繫一下到底什麼時間點修復完畢 搶售完畢那還有 |
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這件事情完了之後我也拜託次長是不是能夠做一個專案的檢討很顯然的您剛講是說這是一個例行的修繕的一個工程但用怪手然後怪手到時候重心不穩而導致翻覆那就代表說施工有問題啊代表說這個工法是有問題的 |
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我跟委員報告因為他剛講旁邊沒有道路所以變成他只能在軌道上去做那因為他用樹木樹木一定要做修剪不然那個樹木未來哪一天長得太大影響到電車線其實就影響到路線市長我覺得這個部分就請 |
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交通部這邊是不是針對這個事件來做一個檢討看有沒有其他更好妥善的方式因為這個是凌晨發生的影響比較少然後也沒有車案問題沒有人員傷亡但我們不希望這樣的事情再發生好不好那這樣子一個月內你們做個檢討針對這個事件那看有沒有更好的一個改善方法好不好 |
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好來再來也是我們這個鐵道基金相關因為有跟台鐵有跟高鐵都有相關嘛那台鐵公司的金雞母台北車站一個月過去了我們一個多月前就在討論是說那個招標啊那到底是誰得標誰什麼我再一次強調台鐵公司今天有九家公司願意來招標來營運這個商場我是樂觀其成因為代表說大家對於台鐵 |
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台北車站這個門面是有信心的大家也想經營更好但是美中部族就是發生了一個憾事就是有提前洩露然後台鐵給我們的回覆現在我看到一個月前跟我們回覆說內部調查完畢找不到內鬼是誰 |
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所以報法務部廉政署請外部力量來調查那我請教一個月過去了到底找到這個洩密的管道了沒有目前還在據我了解應該目前還在還在了解這個洩密的相當相關的管道啦是 還在了解還是找不到 |
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現在目前還沒有找到這看起來已經一個月過去了其實應該嚴格講起來算兩個月那台鐵公司也跟我們講是說持續要運作那台北車站的服務不能中斷這也是我們大家都共同關心的不要因為你的到底是接下來的房客是誰誰來經營而造成說旅客消費者的權益受損但到目前為止是沒有辦法找到的 |
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那這就變羅生門啦這卸滅問題目前還在查啦那剛剛提到整個台北車站目前因為還沒有一個施政嘛所以當然依照程序繼續往下走我想這個服務台鐵公司在台北車站的這樣的服務我想不會中斷都不會中斷這個我想不會中斷是我們共同的要求嘛對不對交通部也要要求台鐵公司絕對不能 |
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中斷服務而讓旅客的權益受損但是市長您認為有信心找到這個洩密的來源嗎還是無疾而終了再過一個月沒有人關心了那這件事情就傳過水無痕了因為台鐵公司內部其實花了很多時間去查是確實是目前是沒查到所以才想說會藉由外力聯繫組那邊來協助看看那這個我們就看一下我們就等著看那個 |
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廉政署那邊的他們查的情況是怎麼樣有沒有做啊我是很希望是我們每一件事情都是做真的不是說敷衍了事這剛剛跟次長你比較沒有那麼直接關係因為畢竟是台鐵公司內部的一個狀況但是我們身為上級主管機關督導機關我們還是要善盡督導主管之責啦我只是真的很希望是說不要每一次事情都是風頭上大家關心那風頭過了好像現在普遍蔓延一個氣氛 |
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撐一撐嘛 風頭過了沒有人關心了這件事情也就這樣了我覺得這樣不好啦來最後 市長那個鐵道局局長也一起上來好不好 來我們淡江大橋5月12號通車大家也都很歡迎期待那也就講到了現在淡海 |
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交通三建淡江大橋我們現在已經在中央地方共同努力完成了淡北連外道路現在也在興建了還有最重要一個拼圖就是淡海輕軌藍海線二期那這已經呈報了十多次了我就不再贅述之前的狀況那最新新北市政府也已經在回呈報給我們鐵道局鐵道局目前是說都已經審核完畢對不對來說明一下我們現在進度 |
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跟委員報告那目前我們已經最新就是協助完成這個初餐的這個相關審查的程序 |
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好 那現在進度是什麼報行政院了還沒有還沒有報行政院因為行政院當初的這個退回來的要求是希望能夠就淡海二期的這個修正計畫先行核定之後再來報巴黎的這樣的一個輕軌不是 我現在講的是淡海輕軌 藍海先二期你講的是巴黎輕軌巴黎輕軌行政院的要求是希望我現在在問的是淡海輕軌 藍海先二期報行政院了沒已經報行政院了是嗎6月1號 |
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我還想說兩天前跟我講說報行政院的人不也是你嗎你怎麼會現在跟我講說還沒報行政院報了嘛 6月1號已經報行政院了嘛那淡海青鬼 南海縣二期你們的審查意見是什麼 |
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你們報行政院你們的審查一定有你們的主觀認定嘛你們認定這個大海清鬼 賴海仙 賀啟這一次新北市政府報過來成不成熟完不完整了解 我們的審查就是經過沒有意見才會送到院裡面是 沒有意見就代表說新北市政府這一次報出來的計畫是完整的確實的有回答過去我們所提出來的問題並且也已經補齊了問題解方所以認為是如果說現在 |
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576.247 |
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585.916 |
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通過的話馬上可以實行而且他是確實可行的對不對是的當然等待行政院最後的審議好那行政院這個就要拜託次長了 |
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587.119 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
615.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
市長淡水人已經期待太久了那藍海線二旗其實距離不長我簡單科普一下大家也都最近都去這個淡水然後淡江大橋看嘛藍海線二旗最重要就是補足最後一里路因為現在輕軌也已經綠三線 藍海線都已經在營運綠三線整個繞這個山區藍海線現在是只有三站但我們最重要藍海線二旗是從淡水捷運站 |
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616.774 |
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640.634 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
連接沿著金色水岸連接到漁人碼頭如果說未來這一段補期的話整個淡海輕軌它就變成是一個circle它就變是一個可以這個循環的那到時候民眾就可以從淡水紅樹林捷運站坐綠山線繞到漁人碼頭再坐南海線二期再回來淡水捷運站 |
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641.574 |
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662.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
這樣整個也跟淡水線的捷運都做一個完整的串聯我想這也對於整個捷運路廣是最好的不管是運輸經濟以及整個規模都是最好的好那現在既然鐵道局也專業的意見都認為說新北市政府補齊了次長能不能也幫幫忙可以我想也跟行政院這邊再督促一下 |
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663.419 |
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690.176 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
不要再卡了 趕快核定吧我跟委員報告 其實當海清軌當時大概有一個問題就是他那個路線跟當地的商家有一些不一樣的看法那個早就解決了所以這一次是因為他們已經有補期補充說他們跟當地的溝通的結果所以我們看一看 既然他已經溝通了其實溝通了五年 然後這個也本來都已經溝通完畢但是少數人的意見 |
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691.601 |
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708.791 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
有意見尊重都好事但現在新北市府都已經完成了所以送鐵道局鐵道局才會核備也認為說可以了才往行政院送嘛那現在其實就是等行政院要不要趕快核定因為最專業的鐵道局都已經認為說沒有問題了那就已經不是專業的問題了 |
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710.632 |
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720.982 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
那就不要有政治因素在裡面 競訴核定趕快來催促一下看行政院這邊能不能趕快來加速 簽核公文這樣可以嗎好 這我們來努力好 我們一起努力 謝謝 |