| IVOD_ID |
169968 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169968 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-11T11:59:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-11T12:19:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:20:41 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5a3f69ccecb4f85e568b03b45291316dfb40f357bf30cd036236c77fa8ed8f59dbf88ab0c805ad9f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:59:01 - 12:19:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查
(一) 委員柯志恩等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員柯志恩等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員吳沛憶等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第二十條條文修正草案」案。
二、審查
(一) 委員王鴻薇等24人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員許宇甄等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 國民黨黨團擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員翁曉玲等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員羅明才等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員葛如鈞等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(七) 委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(八) 委員羅智強等17人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(九) 委員賴士葆等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十) 委員林倩綺等23人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十一) 委員葉元之等19人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十二) 委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十三) 委員伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe等21人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十四) 委員吳沛憶等21人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十五) 委員張雅琳等18人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十六) 委員陳培瑜等16人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
(十七) 委員吳思瑤等16人擬具「高級中等教育法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。
三、繼續審查
(一) 委員柯志恩等16人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 委員徐欣瑩等19人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員羅廷瑋等16人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案
四、審查
(一) 委員王鴻薇等25人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(二) 台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 委員葉元之等18人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 委員邱鎮軍等17人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 委員許宇甄等19人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 委員陳菁徽等16人擬具「大學法第三十五條條文修正草案」案。
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議員之委員謝謝主席 麻煩請次長麻煩請次長 |
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我也好我相信自然剛剛早上你到教育文化委員會的時候你應該看到外面有一整排的記者是我們教育文化委員會何時有那麼多記者過 |
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那為什麼呢因為現在教育的議題是全國關注的議題大家都很期待來到這邊碰到教育部長鄭英耀先生可以詢問他現在教育的狀況但是很遺憾的今天我們羅廷偉召委排有關於教育部的法案進行詢答而且大家那麼關心教育現在所面臨到的問題現在已經是全國關注但鄭英耀部長不來 |
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請假請問一下他是有什麼重要事不來 |
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跟委員報告 因為部長早上另外有行程另外有行程 請問一下那麼多委員會134在開會 這麼多委員會其他委員會的部長 主委都可以來只有我們政要部長在全國民眾在關注教育問題希望他發表一些聲音的時候他不願意面對社會大眾 |
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這什麼重要的事啊根文報告因為早上部長到行政院院會因為有教育部的提案教育部什麼提案教育部什麼重要的提案你講一下什麼重要的提案對什麼重要的提案啊也是跟我們這一次在就學貸款相關的一個經濟措施什麼經濟措施啊那為什麼今天立法院就是在討論這個然後他不願意來勒 |
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我們現在部長因為他在行政院院會他必須去針對我們這個更委的目的場是一樣什麼目的場一樣今天雖然排的是學代雖然排的是營養午餐但是大家很希望部長針對現在的教育的問題包括教育現場失序的狀況來對社會大眾說明嘛 |
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結果用了一個他那麼重視這個東西你說學貸是不是這麼重視那我們學貸三法大家都多久了行政院有版本嗎教育部有版本嗎教育部有沒有版本嘛有沒有版本你回答有沒有版本有沒有你養午餐法有沒有版本那就是不夠嘛就是因為不夠學生團體也覺得不夠所以大家才覺得要入法嘛 |
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如果那麼重視的話你怎麼沒有立刻宣布呢你具體的精進作為是什麼為什麼學生團體選不夠呢市長啊 大家都是明眼人啊今天部長不願意來啊就是不想要面對這位大眾對於現在教育失序的質疑嘛我就問啊請問一下教育部長這幾天 這一兩個禮拜包括有高雄的國小的不幸老師的不幸事件包括一連串的教育失序的亂象部長出來講話嗎 |
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有沒有跟委員報告教育部是一體的部長有沒有出來講話那不然你來當部長好了你可以說因為教育部是一體的所以部長就不用講話他是教育部的大家長他的態度可以影響整個教育政策所以大家想要知道他的聲音 |
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今天一整天大家都在講那個鐵拳教育鐵拳教育啦對沒有錯鐵拳教育很紅也很多人Q我去看因為他們都知道我長期在關注教育議題老師的權益很多人Q我去看我也去看了可是次長你知道為什麼鐵拳教育會這麼紅嗎 |
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是因為大家很有共鳴啦大家看到了韓國他們因為很多也是真人真事他們把很多他們教育現場的失序狀況把它演出來然後他有一個英雄叫全局的督導可以去解決這些教育亂象當然這是戲劇有一些在現實生活不太可能存在可是問題是大家可以在現實上面的壓力已不滿透過戲劇的方式得到抒發所以鐵拳教育才這麼紅啊 |
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但是為什麼我們這邊都沒有共平因為台灣的教育跟韓國面臨到一樣的狀況可是我們的教權局在哪裡我們的部長在哪裡我們的任何教育部的官員可以跟我們的家長老師學生講說你們的解決方案是什麼嗎沒有教育部長躲起來我給你看一下我給你看一下這個等一下再秀這個就是那個 |
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鐵拳 你沒看過嘛 對不對這就是鐵拳教育的部長啦他說我們來建立一個不會再有老師因為投訴而死去的環境第五集啦第五集就是在演老師被爛訴啦前面還有一集是演說 |
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老師因為管教學生學生不滿啦故意營造說老師性騷擾他但是其實沒有老師也因為這樣走上絕路啦我之前就有諮詢過部長我說現在你們去看網路一堆學生在分享怎麼把討厭的老師趕走也許比較兇的老師也許管教比較奄老師怎麼趕走檢舉他性平就好因為性平很主觀 |
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這些事情都發生在我們的台灣的教育現場啊是的啊是那我們的部長在哪裡人家戲劇裡面的部長從去年開始我們就有一連串跟地方戰務跟家長最近幾天人家的人家戲劇裡面的部長面對很多教育的現場問題的時候自己站上第一線面對媒體回答問題我們的部長咧你看一下我們部長在幹嘛下一頁 |
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上一頁不是有一頁部長去雲林的嗎我剛剛我注意沒有放他去哪裡去彰化這兩天去彰化參加民進黨辦的活動跟農業部長陳俊濟去參加民進黨辦的活動就很有時間 |
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後面的你要不要直接來回答要不要要不要你直接來回答好了好不好沒有 跟委員報告其實部長部長有時間去參加民進黨辦的活動但是面對現在大家對教育眾不滿部長呢協尋部長連今天都不來張國立都在積極在處理這個那莫總不願意出來面對國會為什麼不願意出來面對媒體 |
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部長 從去年開始 我們就一直帶著我們部裡面的同仁我們針對現場遇到的問題 包含校室會議問題 老師的管教權是喔你真的自我感覺良好啦 今天大家就是要來問這個嘛媒體也是要來問這個嘛 人呢這樣的措施從今年就是不夠嘛 還是市長你覺得已經做得很好了 |
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我覺得很好了是不是如果很好了這幾天大家會炸鍋嗎教育議題本來大家關注沒那麼多就除了我們教育文化委員會我們很多委員在關注之外現在大家都在關注結果部長咧 |
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我還是跟委員報告部長從去年開始哎呀你是次長你當然要這樣講嘛因為他是你長官嘛但是你們跟一般的民眾跟老師跟學生跟家長的感覺差很多次長我不為難你啦作為他是你的長官你當然要說他的好話但你越說其實越幫他扣分因為你越幫他擦脂挪粉大家的感受會覺得你們怎麼自我感覺這麼良好 |
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第一個啦 爛數的問題趕快解決啦你剛剛講說那個現在的 什麼 建案的只剩兩層投訴 投訴 最後進到消息會議去調查的已經從八成二降到兩成二那這兩層之後的爛數是多少 |
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這是我們在這半年來的統計我們在七月份中旬的時候會有一個更明確的檢討分析到時候也可以跟委員做說明在下次會議一月份改革之後現在第一個 兩層還是很多 |
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第二兩層進去之後會不會兩層都是爛樹這才是最這才是關鍵的問題嗎所以你要去解決爛樹的問題不是喜滋滋的講說現在現在成案的只剩兩層不是是爛樹好這第一件事情第二件事情你看剛剛看那個一個老師被捅被學生捅屁股然後老師在寫黑板一個女老師喔 |
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紅屁股本能試著把學生推開結果老師被處分為什麼呢因為寫這個報告的人是說即使被行為人是故意戳行為人屁股就學生是故意戳行為人屁股甚至是戳中肛門但身為老師還是不應該有傷害學生的行為所以他被處分老師本能試著把學生推開自衛室結果他被處分市長你覺得OK嗎 |
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跟我們報告因為這部分我們會請宜蘭縣政府你覺得OK嗎你覺得不覺得OK嗎如果從目前我看到的訊息來看確實有重新整促的那太誇張了嘛這個就校事會議啊你們校事會議引進了很多所謂的外部專家或者是什麼家長委員這就是一個據我了解是一個家長委員寫的啦 |
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跟我們報告在校士會議的人才資料庫裡面我們也會有一些定期的我們會來檢視市長這就是一個很大的問題嘛這一種狀況非常多嘛只是因為這個有網路上的人PO出來嘛那你今天你今天校士會議為什麼變成這樣當初跟你們教育部一起推校士會議的人本基金會有沒有仇失我看到你知道他講什麼嗎他說 |
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哎呀老師們也不要因為被爛訴啊就失去了原本跟學生的關係嘛對不對校士會議調查完之後如果老師沒事也是還老師清白啊哇賽 站著講話不腰疼欸那要不要他被調查看看所有的老師雖然被調查最後還清白但是會經歷四到六個月的煎熬欸很多老師講說這個調查過程就是羞辱 |
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被扒了好幾層皮而且我們校士會一個最誇張的事情就是我之前也質詢過行政院長卓榮泰我不知道他有沒有重視他也覺得不合理但是校士會依然沒有改革就是所有的我還沒講講到卓榮泰你就急著護航是不是我還沒有問問題我要問什麼 |
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委員請說那你為什麼聽到卓榮泰你這麼緊張我是跟委員解釋說我都還沒問問題啊我還沒問我跟他講說所有的司法都是無罪推定只有校室會議是有罪推定他覺得合不合理他還覺得不合理老師被投訴之後所有老師要自己收集資料去自證自己無罪 |
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他光收集資料就好了啦最後證明無罪啦結果呢都不用備課了啦心情都受到影響了啦被扒了幾層皮之後人本基基會的講說這也是證明清白的機會啊你不要因為這樣難過嘛校日會已經成為一個非常扭曲的制度對於老師充滿了仇恨寧可錯殺一百不可放過一人所以才會造成這樣子爛樹的狀況 |
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你們教育部到底知不知道問題啊我想跟委員報告就是說您講的這些事實可能在去年12月以前在現場有可能發生但是在今年1月部裡面針對校事會議我們有做了 |
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不准立民選舉案件的分流輔導資訊的公開那甚至說調查報告出來主管機關也可以再做一些審視加強事後的監督是不是讓我們有這半你看這半年的時間有罪推定呢沒有所謂的有罪推定就是有推推進老師要自證自己無罪你是不是管國教的 |
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我是獨島高教 你不知道就不要隨便講好不好有罪推定就是有 |
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我們沒有這樣子的條文 真的你沒有這個條文 那個現行做法就是這樣嘛不要不死人間煙火教育部最大的問題就是不死人間煙火啦從你的對答就知道了啦跟你講教育現狀就是這樣你就去檢討嘛 你就改進嘛結果你一直跟我講沒有沒有 我們這半年來的收集會再提高半年來就是不夠嘛而且我跟你講有罪推定就是沒有改嘛有罪推定就是沒有改就是會造成爛數 |
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沒有有所以推定這個就是有如果有怎麼辦市長有的話怎麼辦條文沒有條文沒有但實際上就是有嘛那你要不要去了解你要不要去了解你要不要去了解現實的狀況你要不要去了解不要在那邊耍嘴皮子教育部就是一副雲淡風輕啦所以說老師面對這些困難的情況之下教育部就是說條文沒有老師隨便你啦我跟你講鐵拳教育裡面的部長講什麼 |
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鞠躬道歉跟所有老師說對不起讓所有的老師獨自面對教育的困境而我們的教育部的次長在說什麼沒有這回事啦沒有這回事條文沒有啦條文沒有啦 |
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部長不敢來 次長說條文沒有啦現實狀況教育部就是假裝沒看到啦你們這半年有做啦 做幾分嘛考試考滿分100分 你考20分一直說我考20分 人民希望你考100分你一直考個20分在那邊講 喔有啦有20分啦 有就好了啦我希望你考100分把這半年來我們 |
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改革之後的一些成果改革有成果的話現在狀況會越來越糟嗎會越來越糟嗎我再跟你講一個啦我再跟你講一個啦除了前一兩個禮拜高雄一個國小的老師發生不幸事件之外現在也還有另外一個高雄的老師在網路上也是很紅也是很有名對教育很有貢獻但是 |
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前幾天忽然發文問說請問學校的最高樓層是幾樓後來被衛生局勸去送醫這事情你知道嗎我有在社群網站看到你有看到嗎 對嘛所以有很多狀況你都知道嘛但是你還是覺得你做得很好啊好 那一年內一年內有三個老師選擇最樓然後還有老師公然在網路發問 |
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教育部覺得做得很好了都不知道發生什麼事教育部怎麼解決老師的情緒問題呢很簡單啊就去上自殺防治研習啊都上研習嘛反而上研習被罵老師更覺得莫名其妙啊他寧可休息啊然後實際上的狀況我們來看 |
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老師的日常 年度研習一大堆環境教育4小時 交通安全4小時 特殊教育6小時 自招防治3小時 情緒教育2小時教育部永遠都用研習的方式來解決問題 |
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有沒有比較具體的方法 次長跟委員報告 研習的目的不是為了研習而研習所以我也跟幾個師處我們都在講研習之後 我們期待的目的我是希望老師能夠了解甚至校園內能夠有一個種子教師能夠來協助校園內能夠落實我們這些交通安全環境教育那這部分怎麼不要造成現場第一線老師的負擔這點我們是可以再來斟酌做更好的安排 |
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那是不是我在希望委員讓我們把這半年來我們整理出來的在七月中我們是不是跟委員報告一下在今年一月校生會有改革的成果我剛剛其實要跟委員表達是這樣你的表達就是說法條沒有啊所以現實狀況怎麼樣我哪知道你態度就是這樣嘛沒關係啦大家都有看到我們的對話可受公平啦大家都有看到啦最後最後這個請教一下那個國教署長我們 |
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那個現在因為各縣市都免費營養午餐了嘛對吧現在有宣布了都免費營養午餐了但是呢這裡面有一些漏網之魚啦跟市長報告因為有一些國中他是國立的比如說我們新北市板橋區 |
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國立華僑高級中學他是國立的那在新北市免費營養午餐他就沒有被照顧到其實全國有十幾間都是國立的高中那我想問一下 |
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華僑國中的免費營養午餐怎麼處理不是啦 我現在問 |
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那怎麼處理嘛你是國立的那現在市立的人家要補助免費營養午餐那國立的你是不是就補助嘛不然的話怎麼大家都是在讀國中只是因為學校是市立國立的不同有的就免費營養午餐有的就沒有 |
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那怎麼叫教育平權呢教育平權不是你們一直在講的東西嗎那既然華僑是國立的那你就要照顧人家所以是不是國教署可以補助呢還是就讓他們成為沒有人理的一群了解 謝謝文不是啦 你要講啊所以是怎樣現在我們的了解是目前只有 |
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國立的嘉義科學時鐘的國中部沒有所以委員講的這個華僑也沒有是有 不過我們會後馬上了解華僑沒有 我跟你講沒有 我問過了嘛了解了解 我們馬上跟委員講為什麼每一個人來這裡都喜歡先否定呢不是 因為您事前有問我們 我們就先去了解了不用了解 我現在跟你講沒有嘛 那你要怎麼處理嘛 |
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如果沒有的話我們會跟當地的地方政府一起來協助大概是這樣一起協助那如果地方那一起協助什麼意思如果地方政府沒有編預算那是國教署的編預算是不是是跟委員報告在國教法裡面第九條到第十一條有提到當地的各種國中教育國小教育怎麼樣做分工我們會依據那個來執行這到底是什麼你講話我都聽不懂你到底 |
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1191.59 |
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我的問題很簡單勢力的就是比如說新北市政府他們有補助勢力的學校免費營養午餐但是因為新北市裡面也有國立的它就不是屬於新北市政府國立的就沒有免費營養午餐而且全國其實為數也不多都國立的 |
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那國教署的立場是說不理他們還是說會協調地方政府那如果地方政府不理那國教署是不是也就沒辦法還是怎麼樣還是國教署會願意編譽就這麼簡單的問題不要繞來繞去就跟剛才直接回答好嗎委員直接講直接回答啦就是我們會直接跟地方政府協調地方政府在我們協調之後通常在所有政策裡面都會一起來完成他們也會同意你確定你確定好 委員謝謝你先到了謝謝 |
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那也請署長會後將相關的資料提供沒問題好不好讓委員關心的事項能夠得到回覆那也再次跟委員特別報告下禮拜一有關相關的校園問題我們會有公聽會也邀請委員可以出席還拜託委員一起來發聲謝謝 |