| IVOD_ID |
169951 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169951 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-10T17:04:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-10T17:18:44+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dee24285c0428ea5b457e4b07d2e0dbc6554716909a236dc60a1be799177807e47f90869a70d2c4b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅廷瑋 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:04:42 - 17:18:44 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-10T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查委員羅廷瑋等21人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案。
二、審查委員葛如鈞等18人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案。
【第二案如經院會復議，則不予審查】【進行詢答及逐條審查】） |
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羅廷威委員有請部長有請部長 |
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委員您好好謝謝部長許多委員提到公聽會排上午下午尋答加審查認為很倉促那也要跟大家特別報告其實過往是有案例的那我們持續來努力也感謝大家給予意見那我想部長今天想跟你提到如果你們今天提出了電子競技運動發展相關的補助辦法 |
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你們今天有提出數位科技運動項目輔導獎勵及補助辦法來取代這一次我們提出的要來做一個電子競技運動發展基本法的一個替代方案 |
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對吧這是你們今天提出的一個補助辦法是嗎公委員您報告那當然在數位科技運動項目輔導獎勵及補助辦法這個是我們希望說我想這是運動部跟各位委員所認同在電子競技運動這個項目我們來去努力的當然當然但是我要講的是補助沒有不好嘛那我們都希望要有補助嘛那但是只給錢就夠嗎我想問一下我先跟你請問剛剛你有提到說你明年要編列預算3000萬 |
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对吧其中这3000万呢有补助六都的赛事对吗六都争霸赛以及其他的如果有相关的电子竞技运动的请问一下过往有补助吗过往在电竞的六都争霸赛如果就我了解的话是有补助的有补助嘛对不对对所以过往就有做明年还要做所以明年 |
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你就要做以往在做的事情講的好像這三千萬是強心針是只要有這三千萬我們可以超越韓國我覺得這是另外一件事情我們要來探討的但是我想電競產業界看到這個答案心裡應該非常無奈啊這過往不就有了嗎補助的辦法不就是現行的機制嗎運動部本來就可以在既有的法制擴大補助啊 |
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所以擴大補助的範圍這些理所當然可以做也應該做但問題是如果把既有的補助工具重新包裝一次 |
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那到底解決了什麼問題如果今天運動部只想用辦法來替代專法本質上我們就看到也是用體育官僚的框架去限制一個新興產業的一個想像嘛那剛剛我們許多的委員都說我們要跨部會做人才的培育跨部會做產業的建置可是這就是跨部會然後你告訴我你要用辦法 |
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來告訴所有的部會我們要來處理這不就是跟大家講我們用一個沒有法律位階甚至是沒有強制的一個辦法然後來告訴跨部會我們要動起來再來 |
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我們一直在講黃仁勳去看韓國的時候特別去見T1的電競選手他一直在講沒有網咖沒有電競就不會有今天的回答所以他看到的是電競背後的晶片AI顯示卡還有伺服器遊戲直播粉絲經濟青年文化全球市場今天我們在成立運動部就是希望要把這一個最新的思維 |
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國際的趨勢把它納進去要仰賴您年輕的思維可是我們還在講電競放注補助的項目這樣子的一個狹隘思維而已所以我要問幾個問題要有請部長回答我一下今天提出電競產業相關問題有哪一個是運動部用預算 |
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用補助辦法可以解決的第一首先場館運動部報告第8頁有說食物困境是現行的法規在專業的場館設施跟基礎環境方面尚無明確的分級規範自電競場館跟一般的網咖經常被外界混淆 |
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缺乏專屬公共認證安全的標準使選手難以在一般商業場域中享有專心的安心的訓練場域請問一下這個是靠預算這個是靠補助辦法可以解決的問題嗎 |
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跟委員您報告,首先您剛剛提到的這個部分,我想這不只是電競一個項目可以來去講,我想很多項目應該都會遇到相關的問題。好,那所以我要講就是說,我們還是回過頭來,如果在既有就有的現行機制,我們已經做到場館的認證,那為什麼現在還沒有場館,場館這麼少? |
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場館沒有林立而且你還在自己的報告裡面寫說現行的確遇到困境第二個我們要問的是我們現在看到韓國T1它本身在電競主題式的網咖讓韓國把它做成戰隊品牌粉絲經濟硬體體驗賽事文化社群基地 |
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台灣不是沒有網咖文化欸但是時代已經不同了我們的政府能夠借盡整個韓國的建構新思維這個問題是運動部補助辦法能夠處理的嗎我不認為再來講到人才剛剛一直在講跨部會跨部會人才人才人才 |
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專業的體育熟悉是選手教練但電競產業更需要是賽事直播導播OBS的專業技術網路工程師甚至數據分析師這是一個整個數位內容產業鏈這個部分單靠現在的3000萬預算單靠現在的補助辦法我們可以解決嗎我認為不行所以你今天也有承認我們的確有很大的進步空間所以我不是說不要補助 |
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我是擔心補助三千萬夠嗎可不可以更多但是只有給錢能夠解決現在的困境嗎我曾經問過一個戰隊的經營者幫他再募集更多的經費他說不用了他要收攤了再多的經費也沒有用環境太差再來是授權 |
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電競如果沒有原廠授權你連辦職業聯賽轉播都不行運動部有任何的政策工具可以跟國際大原廠來做談判和對接的授權嗎他沒有任何的政策工具耶只靠補助辦法那我想問一下今天經濟部今天文化部我們再麻煩一下 |
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所以我想問一下我們各部會遇到原廠授權的一個問題我今天如果我是賽事想要舉辦我是產業產業來詢問第一當然我問運動部我是產業我要取得原廠授權然後將原廠的這些賽事帶來台灣那請問一下運動部有補助嗎 |
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跟委員您報告那首先我覺得還是要先明確的了解到委員您對於電子競技基本法這個電競到底屬於這個運動還是電競產業我想這兩者都有我們要明確定義的當然當然要定義所以我們用這些法規就是希望把它定義清楚嘛但我要問運動部有補助賽事授權嗎應該沒有吧應該是以選手為主吧目前就我了解到當然我們還是以選手選手為主嘛好來經濟部 |
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賽事授權是授權這個是屬於一種商業行為所以我想這個還是要看合約合約怎麼去約束經濟部目前有這樣子的補助辦法嗎目前是沒有不好意思速發部抱歉速發部謝謝運動賽事的部分 |
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想請問一下產業跟我們反映他跑速發部速發部有可能會跟他講說經濟部這個部分速發部對於我們現在產業在製作遊戲是給予高度的關心對吧那我現在問你我要舉辦賽事了那我要取得授權速發部可以幫忙嗎目前在這個賽事授權上我沒有補助對嘛 |
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所以問題就在這嘛問運動部運動部說是選手嘛經濟部說要看合約基本上是沒有這個補助嘛那速發部現在只有對我們台灣製造遊戲有給予高度的關心但是賽事的授權卻完全無能為力啊那我們要一直這些國際的賽事基本上都是國際原廠在做的 |
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我們要取得真的很困難那很多的產業都一直在說這個困境我們要把這些賽事引到台灣才可以蓬勃發展更多的賽事才會有更多的選手更多選手拿得多得佳績產業就會蓬勃發展可是回到源頭賽事授權沒有一個部會可以具體提出實際的幫忙 |
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所以我們今天才要分工啊我跟大家報告我不是鐵板一塊我不是說什麼都是我們定的一定為主一定都是最好我們希望納入廣大大家的意見今天所有坐在這邊的委員也都很認真啊也都很關心電競啊但是我拜託大家 |
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救救電競我拜託大家懇請部會不要只用一個辦法告訴我們你有辦法救電競我希望所有的委員能夠幫我們提出更好的精進方式讓整個電競能夠活絡起來我真的要懇求大家 |
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絕對不是只有我關心電競所有的委員都關心可是沒有人提出一個具體的方法實際整個部會行政體系告訴我們用辦法就能解決用補助就能解決那為什麼我們現在整個選手都在出逃為什麼整個產業都不敢蓬勃發展為什麼我們輸給韓國我好想贏韓國所以我要拜託剛剛光提到這些東西我們都沒有辦法解決了拜託大家 |
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提出更具體的政策工具告訴我怎麼解決而不是告訴我你的辦法你修的專法你處理的基本法有很多的疑慮所以我們完全不做等了10年了還在講可能要更完善等了10年了從2017我們把它納入到電子 |
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競技運動產業發展條例到現在都沒有在更進一步的有所發展剛剛還有人在講快打旋風有人奪得世界冠軍就我所知道那個時候他奪世界冠軍的時候還在說我們基本上給予很大的幫助有嗎沒有選手也在說我奪得佳績大家都知道但是這個過程有多辛苦要籌措自己的經費有多辛苦因為他沒有奧運 |
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所以我們看到韓國並不是把電競簡化成一般的遊戲管理而是在既有的遊戲產業法制之外另外以電子競技振興法建立獨立的政策架構從政府的責任地方的推動長期的人才培育還有場館的設施賽事項目 |
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產業的資源 國際的交流財源的確保到獎勵的機制都先用法律定下的基本方式 基本的方向再透過後續的制度 滾動式修正嘛所以韓國自2012年制定本法歷經2016 2018 2022 2020四次的修正 四次的修正一部法令也需要大家關切 努力讓它更好啊可是現在告訴我們 我們應該暫停我們用辦法就好 |
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那為什麼我們選手出逃所以我知道大家關心棒球籃球羽球任何一個球類運動任何一個運動我們都支持我們都希望能夠加倍的關心給予公平的關心但是我們現在看到了政策工具沒有辦法幫助電競他是一個真正看到法規的漏洞希望大家能夠搶救他我還是要再講一次現在電競是孤兒 |
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我們只是想要先確認到底誰能夠接住他連基本的接住都沒有辦法只是告訴他這邊可以幫你一點點那邊可以幫你一點點那邊可以幫你一點點跨部會結果呢剛剛光問一個遊戲授權各部會都沒有辦法 |
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所以我還是期待運動部能夠成為整個運動發展的領航者台灣多次真的多次拿到世界的冠軍我也一直在拜託我相信部長你也承諾我就是 |
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就職以後有跟很多的運動選手電競選手座談對吧我確實有這樣做對我也相信你不會騙人我相信所以我們不只一次跟產業跟運動選手溝通嘛可是問題是為什麼我一直要排這個議程就是我發現還是沒有動靜啊 |
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對不起我不是說你沒有做是我需要更大更大的一個政策工具讓整個振興起來沒有啊我看到你有關心可是產業一直在沒落關心真的不夠我們一起加油好不好謝謝委員謝謝 |