| IVOD_ID |
169941 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169941 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-22-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-10T14:52:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-10T15:05:17+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/dee24285c0428ea5fd2ac30be8f880b76554716909a236dc717ed7845c7e46ba2f230d750febacb15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葛如鈞 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:52:26 - 15:05:17 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-10T14:30:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期教育及文化委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查委員羅廷瑋等21人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案。
二、審查委員葛如鈞等18人擬具「電子競技運動發展基本法草案」案。
【第二案如經院會復議，則不予審查】【進行詢答及逐條審查】） |
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會開始排案請委員擔心的部分呢我們都會相對應的來處理還請委員不用擔心我們下一位質詢的委員葛如君葛委員好謝謝主席有請李洋部長有請部長 |
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委員您好部長好我想我是非常敬仰您其實我的同事林一錦委員也是我非常佩服的一位委員他又是台南市這個電競的主委其實剛剛林一錦委員的發言已經點破我們今天為什麼要有這個電競基本法他有一句話大家可以回去聽他說沒有法你們要怎麼行政 |
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所以事實上啊沒有電競基本法其實有時候行政機關希望能夠盡力的來補足來加強來協助很可能會沒有一個很明確的法規反而落入了我同樣有一塊錢啊我為什麼是給電競不是給其他的運動那今天早上 |
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我一開始也已經點出來了全世界最應該要做電競基本法的就是中華民國因為全世界有八成的電競的產品周邊顯卡made in Taiwan |
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就是我們台灣隊嘛就是我們Team Taiwan嘛那我們Team Taiwan我們不挺台灣的電競這不是很可惜嗎所以我想第一是絕對不好意思林錦瑋我剛剛已經說我非常敬仰您了好不好尊重我一下時間暫停您如果回去看重播我剛剛說您講的那句話你沒有這樣說我可以向您道歉但是事實上您就是這樣說的那我們也是一致的嘛沒有法 |
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行政機關如何行政這句話有錯嗎我們再請委員再尊重一下發言謝謝主席那我想再來關於錢也就是預算我們剛剛講的是法再來關於錢 |
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我們可以看到其實剛剛羅廷偉召委也已經說了6月11號我們就排案來做審議整個過程我想大家都是盡力努力盡速的來進行但是運動部其實成立到現在去年本來的總預算是138億 |
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後來你們提出的計劃是214億足足增加了76億部長你應該有一個概念嘛對不對對好那同時呢本來已經有進行的項目是可以沿用的新興的項目我們也在之前都抽出來讓運動部可以運作了也是好幾億對吧 |
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跟委員您補充那個我們是不是有抽出新興計畫讓你們有部分的新興計畫可以運行了對不對跟委員您補充那是8.5億然後那個全民署的那邊確實還有對嘛8.5億是不是錢是錢嘛能執行的計畫加上能用的錢加起來其實我們也幫忙算過啦已經比之前能夠執行的預算更多啦所以我想 |
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所以您可以問清楚是不是嘛是不是嘛其實就是比之前更多之前只有138億喔你們現在可動之的是大於138還是小於138您回答我就好剛委員您報告一定是大於的對嘛結果現在你說我們在講電競講說哇沒有錢了什麼都不能動了所以我們不要先來討論這個法我覺得到這裡我也很謝謝你啦也直接澄清了 |
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之前138億就是前一個年度我們這相關的體育運動競技的預算今年能動之的早就已經大於這個數字了我想大家也希望能夠回歸到法治面我們來看最後一個我們講人的問題其實我今天非常感動我想部長你也很感動今天早上公聽會 |
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我從來沒有一次工廳會我想要邀請這個產業專家第一時間所有的工廳會的代表都滿了都額滿了這代表什麼代表整個社會對於這個產業想要發聲已經等不住忍不及了 |
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所以我想所有人民熱切盼望的是我們就提供相關的法源的依據讓我們充滿了熱情充滿了專業的部會一起來推動進行有行政的空間所以我想這個我們希望回歸專業我們不要講政治口水 |
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上週有拜讀了您對羅昭偉的電競基本法的說明我們非常仔細的閱讀了就發現其實你們不是覺得電競不重要而是說已經有國民體育法已經有運動產業發展條例已經有規範所以不需要這部法案電競的法請問部長就您所知 |
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我們不管是棒球我們也要打泡菜我們電競我們也要打泡菜請問一下韓國有沒有跟我們的運產條例一樣就整體的運動產業發展的相關法規有嗎 |
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韓國有沒有跟我們類似運產條例一樣整體的運動產業發展的法規跟委員您報告我如果沒記錯你早上公聽會有說到這個電競的促進法是很好厲害了這個我們就很專業我剛剛也沒講錯運動產業振興法它這個是Sports Industry Promotion Act |
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那韓國有這種整體產業的那既然有這樣整體產業的那韓國還有電子競技促進法就您剛剛講的這個 |
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因為疫情有整體產業促進啊為什麼還要為特地的電子競技來做一個促進的法那您有認為韓國這個電競法化成天竺嗎您有覺得說我們要替韓國的其他運動產業抱屈我們這個什麼推桿啦 匹克球要不要有啊要這樣嗎所以很明顯啦電競如此 韓國的電競如此成功 |
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其中一個就是來自於該項政策的支持就是說我除了整體產業的支持我也還有獨立的電競的促進法所以其實對我們看到的對手已經這樣做了我們這樣子來討論跟前進並沒有問題啊所以現行已有規範其實真的不是理由啦部長你可以同意嗎 |
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我想跟委員您報告那當然在韓國確實是這樣做那首先我們還是要強調本部對於電子競技的發展我們肯定是支持的我剛說過了對所以當然在現有的其實已經有產業的條例了我們就不能有電競的法規嗎 |
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首先我們還是對於電子競技基本法比較好,我們當然對於電子競技是支持的。支持嘛,所以我時間有限啦,我不想讓主席困擾。想問部長,您知道運動產業發展條例第一條寫什麼嗎? |
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公委員您報告那當然我手邊沒有資料好沒關係我們來看第一條我們可以一起念一下就是為促進運動產業之發展營造運動產業良好經營環境積極提升競爭力與國際接軌並為國人建構優質運動休閒環境特制定本條例後面還有一句我留給部長部長你幫我們念一下好不好我念三分之二你念一點點可以的話 |
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當然運動產業之發展依本條例之規定其他法律規定有較本條例更有利者從其規定哇 |
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這個坑將有力啊謝謝部長所以其實啊已經非常明確了你們擔心說啊這個運動條例早就幫你們排除了運產條例你們擔心說啊這個會有這個衝突啊已經有了為什麼還要再有沒這個問題運產條例第一條就講了 |
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如果有其他法律規定比既有的條例更有利的從其規定也就是說電競的發展如果能夠有一條電競的能夠有一部電競的法案專屬的法案 |
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而且是上位的法案它比既有的产业条例更有利那它就是可以从其规定嘛所以我们今天这样的公听会的安排我们今天这样的询答非常有意义啊非常有意义啊 |
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那這個也希望這個部長啊您既然支持那我們就一起來努力不然這種照既有規定已經有的我們就不需要再額外再做那這樣既有規定本來體育署也做得很好啊我們不需要體育部運動部真的不是這個概念所以希望我們真的就是來論事啦那另外也確認一下因為很多民眾擔憂啊就說這個 |
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運動幣每年發放的方式百轉千回一下子又是有年齡限制一下子又分數不同還有金額不一樣的請問這個2027還有運動幣的規劃嗎官委員您報告目前有然後預計最近正在思考是否可以將這個運動幣轉為這個可能在 |
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走路的部分可能或加碼之前羅志強委員也有提供相關的意見希望這個發放的標準有一個客觀依據啊不然變成說到底是多少錢多少人有沒有年齡限制就變得不太確定了 |
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跟委員補充那當然去年當然是這個青春動之源那轉為運動也是因應我們現在台灣這個超高齡社會的部分然後當然希望更多人能夠參與運動的這一個全民運動的部分最後一題啦跟委員說聲抱歉時間 |
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好我們有點關注那個5月11號你們有一個特定體育團體交友的座談會啊你們發新聞稿啊說這個座談會呢是要做這個制度的討論說要做制度的討論優化協會治理規範重塑協會治理文化部長你回去看一下你們的會議記錄好不好裡面通篇啊跟這個詞啊完全搭不上關係全部在說感謝協會啊我們要給你更多錢啊 |
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這個讓大家我直接因為你皺眉頭唸給你聽未備戰亞裔最後階段這是主席結論協會如有新增培訓軍費需求請發函向我們提報計劃第二段的開頭外界對於協會運作有批評但事實上仍有許多積極推動業務這個看起來我們覺得有點兜不起來所以您回去瞭解一下該有開這個會能夠去重述 |
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協會治理的文化 優化協會治理的規範就要做不開了一個會 然後裡面通篇通篇是在 協會在洗臉體育部我看到是這樣 在洗臉運動部他說你這個怎麼沒做 你這個怎麼沒做我這個錢怎麼沒有到底誰在治理誰 我們是有點看不懂所以我想這個訊息麻煩您回去理解一下那我們下一次有機會一起來討論我想所有的運動我們一視投人 |
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所有的協會我們希望都有優良的治理重視我們選手的權益好不好那也讓台灣的不管任何一項競技運動都發揚光大好不好謝謝部長謝謝委員 |
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葛委員如鈞 |
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謝謝主席，有請李洋部長。 |
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主席 |
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有請部長。 |
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李部長洋 |
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委員，您好。 |
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1 |
| transcript.gazette[3].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
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部長好。 |
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| transcript.gazette[4].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
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我是非常敬仰你，其實我的同事林宜瑾委員也是我非常佩服的一位委員，他又是臺南市電競委員會的主委，其實剛剛林宜瑾委員的發言已經點破我們為什麼要有電競基本法，他有一句話大家可以回去聽，他說：沒有法，你們要怎麼行政？ |
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葛委員如鈞 |
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2026-06-10T14:53:45.010000+08:00 |
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事實上，沒有電競基本法，其實有時候行政機關希望能夠盡力的來補足、來加強、來協助，很可能會沒有一個很明確的法規，反而落入了同樣有一塊錢，為什麼是給電競，不是給其他的運動？ |
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1 |
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葛委員如鈞 |
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今天早上我一開始也已經點出來了，全世界最應該要做電競基本法的就是中華民國，因為全世界有八成的電競產品、周邊、顯卡是made in Taiwan，就是我們臺灣隊、就是我們Team Taiwan，我們Team Taiwan卻不挺臺灣的電競，這不是很可惜嗎？ |
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葛委員如鈞 |
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所以第一是絕對…… |
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林委員宜瑾 |
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2026-06-10T14:54:14.002000+08:00 |
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1 |
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2026-06-10T14:54:15.002000+08:00 |
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沒有人不挺啦！ |
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0 |
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葛委員如鈞 |
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2026-06-10T14:54:14.002000+08:00 |
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不好意思！ |
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葛委員如鈞 |
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2026-06-10T14:54:19.443000+08:00 |
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林宜瑾委員，我剛剛已經說我非常敬仰你了，尊重我一下。 |
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主席 |
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2026-06-10T14:54:20.463000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[11].end |
2026-06-10T14:54:20.463000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[11].text |
時間暫停。 |
| transcript.gazette[11].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[12].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[12].start |
2026-06-10T14:54:21.163000+08:00 |
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2026-06-10T14:54:34.187000+08:00 |
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你如果回去看重播，我剛剛說你講了那一句話，你沒有這樣說，我可以向你道歉，但是事實上你就是這樣說的，我們也是一致的，「沒有法，行政機關如何行政？ |
| transcript.gazette[12].quality |
0.903 |
| transcript.gazette[13].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[13].start |
2026-06-10T14:54:34.528000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[13].end |
2026-06-10T14:54:35.609000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[13].text |
」這句話有錯嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[13].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[14].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[14].start |
2026-06-10T14:54:35.609000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[14].end |
2026-06-10T14:54:37.891000+08:00 |
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我們請委員尊重一下在發言的委員，拜託！謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[14].quality |
0.579 |
| transcript.gazette[15].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[15].start |
2026-06-10T14:54:37.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[15].end |
2026-06-10T14:54:38.891000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[15].text |
時間繼續。 |
| transcript.gazette[15].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[16].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[16].start |
2026-06-10T14:54:38.813000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[16].end |
2026-06-10T14:54:38.993000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[16].text |
謝謝主席。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-06-10T14:54:43.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[17].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:03.118000+08:00 |
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再來，關於錢也就是預算，我們剛剛講的是法，關於錢，我們可以看到剛剛羅廷瑋召委也已經說了，6月11日就排案審議，整個過程大家都是盡力、努力、儘速地來進行。 |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.938 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:04.318000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:25.568000+08:00 |
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但是運動部成立到現在，去年本來的總預算是138億，後來你們提出的計畫是214億，足足增加了76億，部長，你應該有一個概念，對不對？對。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.98 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:27.029000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:37.614000+08:00 |
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同時，本來已經有進行的項目是可以沿用的，新興項目我們也在之前都抽出來讓運動部可以運作了，也是好幾億，對吧？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:39.244000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:41.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[20].text |
跟委員補充，那個…… |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:41.306000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:46.889000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[21].text |
我們是不是有抽出新興計畫，讓你們有部分的新興計畫可以運行，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:46.889000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:52.773000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[22].text |
跟委員補充，那是8.5億，全民署那邊確實還有…… |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:54.255000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:55.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[23].text |
8.5億是不是錢？ |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:55.235000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-06-10T14:55:55.595000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[24].text |
是錢嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-06-10T14:55:56.236000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-06-10T14:56:18.456000+08:00 |
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能執行的計畫加上能用的錢，其實我們也幫忙算過，加起來已經比之前能夠執行的預算更多，所以你可以問清楚是不是，其實就是比之前更多，之前只有138億，你們現在可動支的是大於138億還是小於138億？ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.912 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-06-10T14:56:19.377000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-06-10T14:56:19.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].text |
你回答我就好。 |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-10T14:56:20.497000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-06-10T14:56:23.019000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].text |
跟委員報告，一定是大於的。對嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.923 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-06-10T14:56:24.300000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-06-10T14:56:51.590000+08:00 |
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結果現在我們在講電競，你們講沒有錢了、什麼都不能動，所以我們不要先來討論這個法，到這裡我也很謝謝你，你也直接澄清了，之前的138億，就是前一個年度相關的體育運動競技預算，今年能動支的早就已經大於這個數字了，我想大家也希望能夠回歸到法制面來看。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.944 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-06-10T14:56:53.370000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[29].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-06-10T14:57:14.976000+08:00 |
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最後來講人的問題，其實我今天非常感動，我想部長也很感動，從來沒有一次公聽會像今天早上的公聽會這樣，我想要邀請產業專家，第一時間所有的公聽會代表都額滿了，這代表什麼？ |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
0.787 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-10T14:57:14.976000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-06-10T14:57:46.881000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].text |
代表整個社會對於這個產業想要發聲，已經等不及、忍不住了，所有人民熱切盼望的是提供相關的法源依據，讓我們充滿熱情、充滿專業的部會一起來推動進行，有行政的空間，所以我們希望回歸專業，不要講政治口水。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-10T14:57:49.767000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-06-10T14:58:10.595000+08:00 |
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我上週有拜讀你對羅召委電競基本法的說明，我們非常仔細的閱讀，發現其實你們不是覺得電競不重要，而是認為已經有國民體育法、已經有運動產業發展條例、已經有規範，所以不需要這一部電競法案。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.892 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-10T14:58:12.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-06-10T14:58:21.621000+08:00 |
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請問部長，就你所知，不管是棒球，我們要打泡菜；或是電競，我們也要打泡菜，請問韓國有沒有跟我們的運產條例一樣，有整體的運動產業發展相關法規，有嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.937 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-06-10T14:58:21.621000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-06-10T14:58:27.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
委員，不好意思！ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-06-10T14:58:27.963000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-06-10T14:58:34.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
我有點…… |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-06-10T14:58:34.305000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-06-10T14:58:40.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].text |
韓國有沒有類似我們的運產條例一樣，有整體的運動產業發展法規？ |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-06-10T14:58:40.892000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-06-10T14:58:45.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
跟委員報告，我如果沒記錯，早上公聽會你有說到電競促進法。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
0.96 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-06-10T14:58:46.217000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-06-10T14:59:17.405000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
是，很好，厲害，這很專業，我剛剛也沒講錯，就是運動產業振興法（Sports Industry Promotion Act），韓國有針對整體產業的法規，韓國還有電子競技促進法，就是你剛剛講的，既然已經有整體產業促進，為什麼還要特地為電子競技制定促進法，你有認為韓國的電競法是畫蛇添足嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.824 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-06-10T14:59:17.566000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-06-10T14:59:26.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].text |
你有覺得我們要替韓國的其他運動產業抱屈，我們的推桿、匹克球要不要有，要這樣嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-06-10T14:59:26.772000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-06-10T14:59:40.440000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].text |
所以很明顯，韓國的電競如此成功，其中一個就是來自於該項政策的支持，除了整體產業支持，還有獨立的電競促進法。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-10T14:59:41.221000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-06-10T14:59:52.746000+08:00 |
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其實我們看到對手已經這樣做了，我們來討論及前進並沒有問題，所以現行已有規範，這其實真的不是理由啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.956 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-06-10T14:59:53.206000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-06-10T14:59:53.847000+08:00 |
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部長，你可以同意嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-06-10T14:59:56.835000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:04.525000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].text |
當然在韓國確實是這樣做，首先我們還是要強調，本部對於電子競技的發展肯定是支持的。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:05.126000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:05.386000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].text |
對，我剛剛說過了。 |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.714 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:06.167000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:07.529000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
對，所以在現有的架構…… |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.778 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:08.150000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:12.295000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
已經有產業的條例了，我們就不能有電競的法規嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:14.097000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:21.104000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
首先，我們還是對於電子競技基本法，這個基本法比較……我們當然對於電子競技是支持的。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.861 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:21.184000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:21.524000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].text |
支持嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:22.585000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:26.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
因為我時間有限，我不想讓主席困擾。 |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:26.269000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:27.410000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
請問部長，您知道運動產業發展條例第一條寫什麼嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:38.340000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-06-10T15:00:39.560000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
我手邊沒有資料。 |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-06-10T15:00:39.920000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:02.068000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
好，沒關係，我們來看第一條，我們可以一起唸一下：「為促進運動產業之發展，營造運動產業良好的經營環境，積極提升競爭力與國際接軌，並為國人建構優質運動休閒環境，特制定本條例」，後面還有一句我留給部長，部長幫我們唸一下，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
0.969 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:02.228000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:05.809000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].text |
我唸三分之二，你唸一點點，可以的話。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.867 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:06.950000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:09.337000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
當然，「運動產業之發展，依本條例之規定。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:09.557000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:14.009000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
其他法律規定有較本條例更有利者，從其規定」。哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:15.893000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:16.233000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].text |
鏗鏘有力啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[56].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:16.734000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:16.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[56].text |
謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:16.894000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:32.319000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[57].text |
所以其實已經非常明確了，這個運產條例早就幫你們排除了，你們擔心會有衝突，已經有了，為什麼還要再有？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[58].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:32.679000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-06-10T15:01:43.065000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[58].text |
沒這個問題，運產條例第一條就講了，如果有其他法律規定比既有的條例更有利的，從其規定。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-10T15:01:43.246000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[59].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:01.849000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[59].text |
也就是說，電競的發展如果能夠有一部電競的法案、專屬的法案，而且是上位的法案，它比既有的產業條例更有利，那就是可以從其規定嘛！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.911 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:02.490000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:07.677000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
所以我們今天安排這樣的公聽會，我們今天這樣的詢答，非常有意義啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.586 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:08.498000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[61].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:09.159000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
非常有意義啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:11.541000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:24.330000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[62].text |
也希望部長您既然支持，我們就一起來努力，不然這種照既有規定已經有的我們就不需要額外再做，那這樣照既有規定，本來體育署也做得很好啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
0.983 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:24.670000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[63].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:30.895000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
我們不需要有運動部，真的不是這個概念，所以希望我們真的就事來論事。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.933 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:31.996000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:39.981000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
另外也確認一下，因為很多民眾擔憂，就是說運動幣每年發放的方式，哇！ |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:41.682000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:42.102000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
百轉千迴啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0.6 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:44.924000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-06-10T15:02:55.409000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
一下子又是有年齡限制，一下子又份數不同，還有金額不一樣的，請問2027年還有運動幣的規劃嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[66].quality |
0.947 |
| transcript.gazette[67].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[67].start |
2026-06-10T15:02:57.249000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[67].end |
2026-06-10T15:03:10.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[67].text |
目前有，然後最近正在思考是否可以將運動幣轉為可能在走路的部分或加碼，之前羅智強委員也有提供相關的意見。 |
| transcript.gazette[67].quality |
0.979 |
| transcript.gazette[68].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[68].start |
2026-06-10T15:03:10.938000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[68].end |
2026-06-10T15:03:20.487000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[68].text |
希望發放的標準有一個客觀依據，不然變成說到底是多少錢、多少人、有沒有年齡限制都不太確定了。 |
| transcript.gazette[68].quality |
0.976 |
| transcript.gazette[69].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[69].start |
2026-06-10T15:03:22.888000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[69].end |
2026-06-10T15:03:36.872000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[69].text |
跟委員補充，去年青春動滋券轉為運動幣也是因應現在臺灣這個超高齡社會，然後希望更多人能夠參與全民運動的部分。 |
| transcript.gazette[69].quality |
0.94 |
| transcript.gazette[70].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[70].start |
2026-06-10T15:03:37.432000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[70].end |
2026-06-10T15:03:37.912000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[70].text |
好，最後一題，再給我幾…… |
| transcript.gazette[70].quality |
0.444 |
| transcript.gazette[71].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[71].start |
2026-06-10T15:03:38.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[71].end |
2026-06-10T15:03:41.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[71].text |
跟委員說聲抱歉，因為時間……好。 |
| transcript.gazette[71].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[72].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[72].start |
2026-06-10T15:03:41.834000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[72].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:01.542000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[72].text |
我們有點關注在5月11日你們有一個特定體育團體交流的座談會，你們發新聞稿說這個座談會是要做制度的討論，優化協會治理規範，重塑協會治理文化，部長，你回去看一下你們的會議紀錄好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[72].quality |
0.95 |
| transcript.gazette[73].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[73].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:02.483000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[73].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:08.025000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[73].text |
裡面通篇跟這個詞完全搭不上關係，全部在說感謝協會啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[73].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[74].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[74].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:08.185000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[74].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:08.965000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[74].text |
我們要給你更多錢啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[74].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[75].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[75].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:12.607000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[75].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:22.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[75].text |
因為你皺眉頭，我把主席的結論唸給你聽：為備戰亞運最後階段，協會如有新增培訓經費需求，請發函向我們提報計畫。 |
| transcript.gazette[75].quality |
0.771 |
| transcript.gazette[76].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[76].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:22.553000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[76].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:35.220000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[76].text |
第二段的開頭是外界對於協會運作有批評，但事實上仍有許多積極推動業務的協會，這個內容讓我們覺得有點兜不起來，所以您回去瞭解一下。 |
| transcript.gazette[76].quality |
0.881 |
| transcript.gazette[77].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[77].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:36.460000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[77].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:51.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[77].text |
有開這個會，能夠去重塑協會治理的文化、優化協會治理的規範就要做，不是開了一個會，然後裡面通篇是協會在洗臉運動部，我看到的是這樣啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[77].quality |
0.831 |
| transcript.gazette[78].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[78].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:51.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[78].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:52.356000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[78].text |
在洗臉運動部啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[78].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[79].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[79].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:52.036000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[79].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:52.797000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[79].text |
它說：你這個怎麼沒做？ |
| transcript.gazette[79].quality |
0.889 |
| transcript.gazette[80].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[80].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:53.037000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[80].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:53.698000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[80].text |
你那個怎麼沒做？ |
| transcript.gazette[80].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[81].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[81].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:54.098000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[81].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:54.959000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[81].text |
我這個錢怎麼沒有？ |
| transcript.gazette[81].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[82].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[82].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:55.459000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[82].end |
2026-06-10T15:04:57.521000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[82].text |
到底是誰在治理誰，我們實在是有點看不懂啦！ |
| transcript.gazette[82].quality |
0.789 |
| transcript.gazette[83].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[83].start |
2026-06-10T15:04:58.342000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[83].end |
2026-06-10T15:05:15.659000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[83].text |
所以這個訊息麻煩您回去理解一下，我們下一次有機會一起來討論，我想所有的運動我們一視同仁，所有的協會我們希望都有優良的治理，重視選手的權益，也讓臺灣不管任何一項競技運動都發揚光大，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[83].quality |
0.977 |
| transcript.gazette[84].speaker |
葛委員如鈞 |
| transcript.gazette[84].start |
2026-06-10T15:05:15.779000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[84].end |
2026-06-10T15:05:16.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[84].text |
謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[84].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[85].speaker |
李部長洋 |
| transcript.gazette[85].start |
2026-06-10T15:05:16.500000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[85].end |
2026-06-10T15:05:16.520000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[85].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[85].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[86].start |
2026-06-10T15:05:17.020000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[86].end |
2026-06-10T15:05:21.305714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[86].text |
部長會後再回應，謝謝委員，不好意思。 |
| transcript.gazette[86].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[87].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[87].start |
2026-06-10T15:05:21.605714+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[87].end |
2026-06-10T15:05:24.462857+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[87].text |
下一位有請陳秀寳委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[87].quality |
0 |