| IVOD_ID |
169876 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169876 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-08T11:32:53+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-08T11:43:47+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:54 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf4a05d5bc4f1da05ca160d4d9fd270167622fce35d9e13845bd58b8ef1d7533e8a977c2421e346e5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:32:53 - 11:43:47 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請法務部部長、內政部警政署署長、交通部、衛生福利部、海洋委員會海巡署、財政部關務署、教育部、數位發展部就「從源頭查緝到道路安全：我國毒品犯罪與毒駕防制政策」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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部長好部長獨駕零容忍你早上也講了就說這個獨駕撞到我們的派出所所長造成這個雙腿斷裂這個也是無法容忍的但本席看到新聞感覺到更加訝異為什麼這一個嫌犯所謂的私信男子警方所說他是警方列管的毒品人口過去曾經有毒品前科以及私用毒品的惡習 |
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所以已經是一個毒品前科的累犯了今天撞到所長而所長是在執勤中穿著制服來去做攔檢還被這個嫌犯倒車逃逸試圖衝撞員警造成員警的雙腿骨折結果法院居然講說因為這個嫌犯過去沒有酒駕毒駕前科啊來我想請教一下 |
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酒駕毒駕前科跟他的毒品這個列管的部分過去沒有酒駕毒駕前科說不定是根本沒有那時候我們的那個試劑還不夠也因此沒有攔檢到但不代表說他沒有濕食毒品啊那怎麼會那麼輕輕的一個縱放勒 |
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跟委員報告因為我們以我們檢警我們是嚴厲查緝嚴懲重罰這部分那個整個一個無保請回到市法院我們是申請機壓無保請回的那我們想這部分我們是不服的所以這部分我們都有抗告我們是申請羈押但到時候地院用的理由是讓他無保請回是因為他沒有酒獨駕前科但是他是警方列管的毒品人口 |
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施食毒品的前科來我先請教一下那個副署長副署長我們現在警方列管毒品能夠有多少位 |
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獵管毒品人口全國全國的部分三千多三千多所以換言之這三千多有沒有地方法院他們了不了解啊因為其實就本席來看這個案件其實非常離譜啊是因為他早就是警方的獵管人口所以警方遇到他才會特別認為是說他要重點查緝那也果不其然確實他就是毒價嘛 |
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而且跟委員報告我們移送的時候應該都會把相關的前科紀錄都會續名在這個移送報告裡面結果有前科紀錄他的前科紀錄也有毒品前科吸食毒品的惡習也有涉嫌公共危險跟傷害案件的這樣的一個嫌犯到最後居然遞願可以無保請回所以這個我們沒有辦法接受會不會太恐龍了一點我是沒辦法接受好來來部長 |
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我知道因為這個是法院的一個判決那我們現在已經有正式馬上提出一個抗告嘛對不對這個已經抗告了好甚至這個案件最離譜的地方我要求檢方一定要最快速度提起抗告是因為為什麼已經抗告了我要告訴你是因為地院這邊還有講說這個嫌犯表達願意跟員警和解啊我都不知道說這個嫌犯是要跟員警和解什麼 |
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然後昨天出來一個新聞是我們這個所長在病院 病房裡面結果這一個嫌犯的家屬拿了兩盒水果硬闖病房莫名其妙嘛這根本就是已經 我覺得已經涉嫌讓我們的執勤同仁公務人員心生畏懼啊欸 我知道你的病房在哪裡欸你被我撞傷了 然後我拿兩盒水果來給你看 |
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我覺得真的是非常離譜的事情我們也是覺得我們的看法是跟委員一樣我們一起讓獨駕零容忍但是拉回來其實剛剛部長你答詢這個委員的一個回答的時候我覺得你有進入到狀況獨駕跟酒駕最大的不同其實我也諮詢過警政署署長 |
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以前我們都認為酒駕相對比較氾濫為什麼因為有一些餐會有一些宴會但是比較大多數不敢講百分百但大多數是喝完酒之後餐會完之後他開車 |
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喝酒沒有犯法但是喝酒開車犯法所以我們要列為重點項目尤其是可能尾牙祭的時候多來做臨檢但現在獨家不一樣您剛剛有做一個動作的比喻以前我們在電影裡面看到獨品施打是什麼是用針筒 |
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是打手臂打這個血管可能相對複雜但現在新興毒品它配合電子菸的載具它變成是非常吸食方便而且邊開邊吸換言之它在開車的時候如果在吸食毒品的話 |
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那個量一旦是過多過猛什麼時候他自己都不行人事完全不得而知所以這才是為什麼現在認為說獨駕比酒駕更加的嚴重而且獨駕的傷害程度駕車上街之後那就是一個不定時炸彈可能是隨機攻擊你我都有可能是受害者好所以部長我們講那麼多本席希望你跟我的立場是一致的 |
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那我提出來185條之3獨駕致死的話我要求最高應該處死刑無期徒刑或10年以上有期徒刑為什麼很簡單啊 |
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因為你已經是毒蟲駕車吸毒本來就已經犯法了你吸毒之後你還開車上路還邊開邊吸不管邊開邊吸或是你怎麼樣的一個樣態但是現在很有可能他就變成是一個不特定的攻擊那你的交通工具已經不是交通工具了你是殺人利器 |
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所以我們才認為是說應該獨駕致死人死是一個事實我不管今天是什麼樣的狀況造成別人無辜的死亡是事實那我們就應該用最嚴厲的刑責來去跟他嚇阻讓他知道是說你不能做這個事情來 我請教法務部到最後版本居然是從3年到10年變成5年到12年 多增加2年 |
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這個兩年的嚇阻效果你的利基點的嚇阻效果在哪裡你的零容忍就只有兩年嗎這個毒價會發生車禍或是人死傷那這邊如果說有不確定的殺人故意就像我們實務上有起訴就是一毒價撞到人就有去那個劉姓所長的那一種的就是劉宗興所長沒錯那個很不幸很認人很可惡本席現在講的是說因為我們今天的專案一次專案一天晚上可以抓到一百件的毒價 |
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那就代表是說大家現在不痛不癢啊所以立法有兩個方式跟目的跟行為我跟部長好好探討一下就一個是真真正正告訴民眾說比例原則等等的部分但另外一個是當現在社會裡面有那麼重大的一個刑責的時候我們也要用言行峻法告訴你這件事情在台灣社會零容忍 |
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所以我們會有加重處分要 目的並不是說你來犯然後我來故意要判你 不是我是告訴你說不要做這件事情 |
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也因此本席才會提出來啊我們過去到現在所有的不管是在野執政委員其實我覺得都一樣我們沒有人是想要殺身可是我們要用這樣的一個方式告訴大家是說你不要做這件事情那我相信99.9%的人也不會去做那如果0.1%的獨駕的人他以前可能全要僥倖心理那我不要他有僥倖心理啊所以我才告訴你說你只要敢獨駕上車我第一我要沒路車輛 |
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第二如果你因為獨駕而致死的話我最高判你死刑那他可能就會思考是說那這樣子我不要開車嘛如果說吸毒吸毒畢竟也是犯罪可是他是個人行為那他選擇留在他自己的住所是不是用這樣的一個態度才是真真正正的零容忍否則的話你說從十年增加到兩年變十二年我看不出來這增加到兩年的意義在哪裡 |
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那你不要跟 加一下 加一些有啦 這不是有啦 現在是我們的台獨問題啦這個一通明子現在六月十七號要跟一通明子算了就要一級毒品嘛 一級毒品那是製毒 販毒 最高處於死刑嘛對 那C10勒 |
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西十一級獨立 西十六的話 一級的話就五年以下啊 六月以上 五年以上是啊 五年以下那但是我們現在講的是說你獨駕是所以本席看中面講 因為未來有沒有再有更多的新星的不知道因為科技在進步但本席今天就是要利用這個機會跟這個立場告訴我們國人政府跟我們是一體的就是現在大家很擔心獨駕的問題也不希望說我走在路上 |
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遵守交通規則 但突然間哪一個橫衝直撞那因為他是毒品的吸食者而造成我們的生命財產安全也因此才會說我們把刑責提高而台灣現在社會好嘛 民進黨政府過去一直講說我們沒有廢除死刑啊沒有嘛 是不是那既然沒有廢除死刑 我不知道現在死刑入法對於法務部也好 對於我們現在政府也好不是洪水猛獸吧 |
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難道獨從駕車撞死人了我們還要給他機會嗎跟委員報告我想這個還是要去做一個區分做一個區分像獨駕去不確定殺人故意去撞死人了這個就是直接到殺人的 |
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那如果說獨駕致死我們最重視我們那個法條是到無期徒刑吧你到12年因為他那個是沒有沒有前科的沒有前科的只有獨駕前科的以前的所以你還要給他第二次機會那本來就是更不能給他第二次機會當然啊所以說我們才會講說一次就不行了所以我們現在要修法把它提高就是要告訴全國國人就是不能這樣做 |
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所以車子要沒收嘛不管是誰的車子都要沒收只要是獨駕的車子都要沒收車子沒收我們有共識了嘛那現在是185-3的這個刑責的部分我們沒有共識嘛本席現在提出來是因為我在三個禮拜前已經有版本我們很多在野黨國民黨的委員也有版本就是支持185-3我們要提高獨駕致死最高判處死刑無期徒刑或十年以上有期徒刑我們希望法務部今天的質詢聽完之後回去再好好研議溝通 |
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行政院到之後爆出來的版本不要跟國人的理解 情感以及國人的認知背道而馳好不好 謝謝 |