| IVOD_ID |
169865 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169865 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-08 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-36-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-08T10:22:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-08T10:36:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:24 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/cf4a05d5bc4f1da013a5b3444c52bddd67622fce35d9e13820bf4afc9f86a24375542754bc7705995ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張雅琳 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:22:25 - 10:36:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請法務部部長、內政部警政署署長、交通部、衛生福利部、海洋委員會海巡署、財政部關務署、教育部、數位發展部就「從源頭查緝到道路安全：我國毒品犯罪與毒駕防制政策」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝那我們先請衛福部國健署好 請副組長 |
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好,那因為我們現在呢最重要是因為我們要 |
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在上個禮拜吧我們在院會的時候我們有提到說我們現在會把會修這個煙害防治法把持有電子煙這件事情納入行政法那因為我們現行其實是只有並沒有罰這個持有的部分那我想問就會有一個問題就是說現在我剛剛現在這個簡報上面的這三種要怎麼認定 |
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會有認定的問題因為第一線執法人員他要怎麼去認定這件事情那特別是說我們過去呢也沒有說不能持有嘛所以這個接下來我想第一個是認定的問題第二個是說 |
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因為過去沒有那他過去持有的那接下來該怎麼辦報告委員當然因為我們現在還要牽涉到修法系部的討論那原則上因為電子鹽本身在12年的時候鴛鴦法他就是違禁品他本來就是不該持有是沒錯但是因為當時沒有罰所以的確我們大家都非常清楚剛剛光看學生都有在持有了 |
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對 那但是因為過去沒有罰 現在要罰 這是一個問題然後另外一個就是說 到底像現在簡報上面寫的還有煙油 僅有空靈件 這些要怎麼認定嘛所以是不是可以請就這兩個部分來回答那我們靠近麥克風一點 聽得比較清楚不好意思 |
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如果是這樣的話就是基本上它如果是查獲學生手上持有的話應該是原則上應該是都是不行的如果是它僅有煙油或是空零件它應該都是算是電子煙的整個它就是它那個零件就是載具嘛那煙油煙彈它本身就是就是一個不能夠持有的整組的設備是都不應該持有的所以 |
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基本上聽起來就是我現在寫到的這個部分我們通通都罰就對了好 但是對 但是因為法律有一個不溯及既往的原則嘛對不對那該怎麼辦呢因為過去持有是不罰的嘛那你現在要罰對吧 這個我覺得這個因為我們新增人民的義務與處罰的範圍 |
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是所以這部分的話我覺得如果我們沒有去做應該這樣簡單來講就是說我們之前在槍炮彈製彈藥刀械條例的時候我們當時也有去講就是說可能模擬槍操作槍我們有給大家一點時間來去申報然後 |
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對 所以我覺得這個部分我們是不是也可以往這個方向來去研議呢因為畢竟過去真的沒有那再加上法律不溯及既往的原則我覺得這個還是要去來考量那再來第二個部分說我們個人持有跟商業持有的部分我覺得也是要來 |
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有一些配套措施啦因為個人持有相對比較簡單但是商業已經持有的部分你又該怎麼處理商業如果它涉及製造輸入當然那是已經違法嘛對不對對但是它持有的部分就它之前已經進口了一批 |
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帶了一瓶因為之前也有人搬家嘛對不對各種案件的形式來把它帶進來嘛如果是從輸入端的部分當然陸海空我們跟海巡署什麼都有財政部這邊都有合作那些大概都是盡量從上游端供應端就先攔截了啦 |
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對 那另外就是剛剛謝謝委員的提醒就是其實沒有錯就是我們可能要增加所謂的宣導期對 因為有就是有一些過去就持有的部分的確是沒有被罰的對 我覺得這部分可能要考慮一下好 那好 謝謝你喔那接下來我們請教育部 |
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哈囉 誰 委員好很低一點好了 低一點好 那徐特斯嘛 對不對好 那徐特斯我想請教一下就是說因為我們現在是有講到有這個唾液快篩嘛 對不對但是因為其實大家過去在詢問的時候呢就有考 當時就其實有提出來就是用藥液篩檢面對依托明指這種半衰期比較短的其實基本上是抓不到但是當時你們的回覆是說因為呢 |
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這個因為法規上當時只有尿篩執行的規定並沒有唾液快篩的一個規定所以如果我們現在要做唾液快篩的話你們接下來是不是就要來去修法呢因為看起來你們過去在這個尿檢的部分是因為讀回防治條例嘛33條之一沒有訂定嘛所以有法源依據嘛那你們現在要如何處理校園唾液快篩的法源依據呢 |
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跟委員報告就是確實是來自獨維條例所以目前是先建議法務部要修獨維條例然後增加拖曳快篩的這樣一個管道然後我們也會在我們的執行要點也會再增加相關的一個執行的作業所以你們是會另外制定一個要點嗎因為你們現在的要點是尿液篩檢及輔導作業要點你們是要在這個要點上面去做修正還是你們要新增一個要點 |
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跟委員報告我們會在這一個要點去修正就是增加就是不限尿液那接下來請一下法務部因為剛剛有提到就是說這還是要修讀委條例啦但是我看你們現在的說法上面我下面有看到這一個板你們要修這個讀委條例所以可不可以請部長回應一下我們有沒有要修讀委條例 |
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我們現在原例可以修那個獨尾條例33條他那個尿液現在是一個只有尿液而已所以這個部分的話我想問一下所以你們現在因為之前是說會修1853嘛對不對然後現在也是會修獨尾條例嘛對不對那還有什麼條還有什麼法案會在這一次一併來修整呢 |
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就是一個獨委條例跟那個以本部來講的話獨委條例跟那個刑法就我說這兩個嘛刑法好喔好喔了解那大概現在進度作業是什麼可以跟我們講一下目前那個跟委員報告現在整個一個那個全面因為因應這個獨家這個全面提升就是一個刑法的一個刑度還有那個義務沒收等等這些我們會在我們近日會送到行政院一個一個審查 |
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近日等於是說這一兩週對不對我想在本週內本週內嘛本週是這兩個剛剛講的這兩個法會一起送嗎因為這東西要配套不然你們九月怎麼上線啊 |
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讀委條例這份修法因為這是我們會盡快來處理那因為他那個那個獨家那部分我們這一周會送行法我知道因為你們之前一直在講行法但是因為教育部說九月就要上這個唾液篩檢那九月要塞你們要上那你們的時程上面呢彼此現在是有默契嗎彼此知道嗎 |
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所以你們大概什麼時候會把毒味調劑送進來我們盡快來研修那教育部你們這邊你們自己的尿液的這個輔導作業要點呢你們大概什麼時候會修完跟委員報告我們目前已經都在進行討論了那預計會在7月以前 |
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7月以前因為現在看起來你們是要在學校裡面執行嘛這個還要跟學校溝通還要跟各縣市這樣應該說你們要跟各縣市教育局溝通各縣市教育局要再跟學校溝通你9月要上線你7月之前一定要完成不然你應該是完全來不及是 |
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那我想問一下就是說因為基本上呢我們之前在憲法這個四大法官解釋裡面釋字第五三五號當時就有去講到說警察臨檢他有一個重要原則就是國家不能不分時間地點對象任意臨檢或是隨機檢查 |
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所以呢我想是不是在這一次你們在我看你們的說明是說你們是根據尿液一樣嘛就是有特定高風險的部分你們才會去做篩檢嘛對不對好那所以如果是這樣子的原則的話剛剛又聽到說是生教老師會來生教組長會做這件事情不過因為 |
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其實對於學校來說我想大家都非常清楚知道行政工作真的非常多所以剛剛其實林倩琦委員也有關心是說我們怎麼樣給學校第一線的支持這個部分我也希望剛剛有要求你們要一個報告這份報告也要提供給我因為我也想要知道我們到底如何的來去避免學校的工作負荷過大 |
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那再來一個部分最後一個問題想請教教育部就是說如果今天學生拒絕拖曳篩檢呢學生或家長反對的話那該怎麼辦 |
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跟委員報告就是如果像之前在讀委條例的一個規範是確實是如果已經納入特定人員名冊這一類的對象是其實是不能拒絕不過在教育部的一個作為我們還是會積極溝通可能請家長然後可能請我們相關可能跟老師還有跟家長同事的溝通那看看是不是能夠藉由這樣的一個方式能夠盡量能夠來配合 |
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好我想這部分還是要一個明確的流程啦要提供給學校因為不然我覺得就會變成是學校面對家長反對家長到時候又再去找1999找政治人物明代去關心的時候大家現場的壓力很大所以我覺得一個明確的做法這樣才能夠去保障老師跟家長在溝通的時候大家彼此的分際是清楚的好不好好謝謝那最後我想要請問一下速發部 |
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在你們的書面報告裡面有看到說你們有建立一個網路平台刊登或販售違法商品下架處理聯防平台然後從113年11月到115年的5月底已經召開了7次的會議處理了至少58項部會提案 |
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也有透過各部會提供關鍵資料平台自主掃描然後看起來我們也是有採訪了相關的平台我想問一下因為現在其實大部分的交易特別是學生的交易其實透過社群平台 |
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他已經不僅是透過電商所以我想問一下是說我們現在做的這個AI巡查有沒有針對社群平台的貼文廣告公開帳號短影的內容做審查因為我想大家應該都有看到這部分是有的嗎是 報告委員我們今年會開始來做這個部分的掃描什麼時候開始7月底以後會簽字完成 |
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7月底會建制完成那我想問一下因為我們過去在這個打詐的領域呢也有開發這個詐騙樣態分析和防詐雷達那把過往的詐騙案件整理成風險樣態再用AI模型去掃描網路廣告跟電商廣告 |
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好那過去呢在打詐的領域呢也不是平台自稱有做就好而是你們其實有詐欺防治計畫風險管理機制還有查驗記錄透明度報告所以你們也是可以抽查跟要求他們提供資料所以我想問一下針對於這次的毒品我們是不是也有做類似的可能像是什麼毒品與含毒電子菸暗語啊資料庫啊因為這個暗語是一直不停在變化這部分是有做類似的 |
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報告委員那個打炸部分是因為炸防條例有相關的一個法律依據那至於毒品的部分就要看相關的規定相關的法律有沒有相規定但是本部都可以配合來協助 |
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好意思就是說如果機關主管機關有相關的法律抒發部可以來配合就對了是那是不是抒發部也可以積極的來跟主管機關溝通這件事情呢好不好因為你們在現場就看到了這樣子的問題嘛我們是不是因為既然你們也成立了這個跨部會的這個溝通的協作平台嘛是不是也可以主動的來提出這樣子的問題呢是不是也可以可以我們都可以配合 |
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我是說我現在不是說你配合我希望你可以主動的去提醒他們可以嗎可以好那另外一個部分就是說如果同一個平台反覆的出現販售喪屍煙彈含毒煙彈那平台接貨主管機關通知之後並沒有立即下架我們現在是有權利要求平台限期改善的嗎報委你就看那個作用法有沒有這樣規定 |
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作用法有沒有這樣子的規定譬如說上詐騙的話他依照詐毀條例他是一定要下架如果沒有下架會被裁罰好所以這看起來是衛福部嗎對不對是衛福部那衛福部這個應該是食藥署吧對吧這個算食藥署嗎還是電子鹽應該是國健署那國健署呢我們現在是不是有 |
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目前我們其實跟網就是像剛剛委員說的社群媒體類還有一些是電商品來電商品來因為已經實名制所以進入沒有但是現在就在社交平台對那社群媒體的比如像Meta Family就IG FB那些的部分我們現在其實有頒布一個就是善良管理人的注意事項那其實他們的下架比例也是高只要我們有掃描到大概下架比例也是高達99.7對 |
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所以你們現在是已經可以要求他們平台限期改善了是嗎對兩個工作日內所以如果他沒有改善的話呢我們的處罰是什麼沒有改善的話我們也是有罰緩也是有行政罰緩也是會有行政罰緩就對了對OK好謝謝 |