| IVOD_ID |
169826 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/169826 |
| 日期 |
2026-06-04 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-5-23-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
5 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第5會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2026-06-04T09:46:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2026-06-04T09:56:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:17 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1e7ee030b58e6bfefa3f3515d9536c818ee7e0de9923b3dc87431bb39d7cfed2faaab92e9403bad85ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林俊憲 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:46:29 - 09:56:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2026-06-04T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長、交通部鐵道局局長及台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長就「5月25日高鐵班次嚴重誤點事件」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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好謝謝主席本期邀請我們交通部陳部長來請陳部長 |
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這幾天大家有在關心那個獨駕的問題那交通部也有大概有表示要來修改我們的道交條例的處罰相關部分對獨駕現在民怨高漲那確實因為它造成了這個社會尤其交通安全很大的一個危害幾個數字給部長當參考 |
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我們獨駕的件數發生的件數如果是達到刑法的程度就是那個已經吸毒吸到不能安全駕駛那個會用刑法給他移送你看這個件數從最近幾年315件2619件接下來就到8659件三年內增加了到今年大概又到14000件了 |
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大概短短的三四年就增加了四十幾倍好那如果就是要按道交條例被開單這是有抓到的獨家件數有抓到的話我們來看112年2023年是910件2024年就2189件那2025年就到11000件三年內增加12倍 |
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你看911,2189,11000件然後其中我要給你注意看一個累犯的件數就是說你整體件數增加12倍那累犯的件數就是你曾經獨駕然後再次的獨駕這種累犯的件數竟然增加了18倍你吃到開車啊一而再,再而三耶 |
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獨駕累犯件數112年是163件2024471件到去年將近3000件2947件所以可見有些是獨駕的累犯這種人不能讓他再上路他沒有資格再繼續駕駛所以在未來的修法 |
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我不曉得交通部第一個除了提高罰則以外有些國外對於毒價因為這個全世界都面臨這樣的一種問題因為毒品現在不斷的變化取得吸食都更容易像這種喪屍煙彈因為你單獨的吸煙很麻煩聽說他們就混在電子煙裡面所以吸食很方便 |
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然後在年輕人之間就很普遍那前幾天不是有一個案例嗎他獨駕他開車載的是瓦斯車耶整車都載駕駛 吃凍載駕駛 你看這多危險所以除了罰金的提高以外吊銷他的駕照 或者是沒送他的車輛 |
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那請教一下部長對於未來獨駕道交條例的修法方向還有時間啊交通部目前有沒有相關的想法或者是草案向委員報告這件事其實這段時間大家都相當的在意尤其是委員們大家都非常的在意那我們交通部也加緊腳步針對這件事情我們跟法務部跟內政部 |
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還有我們交通部還有衛福部我們幾個部門大家一起合作正在做整體的這個研修包含刑罰的部分當然是法務部我們尊重法務部的權責那執法的部分是內政部警政署我們也尊重他們的權責但在監理層面就是委員剛剛所關心的部分是交通部的責任我們該做的那幾個方向委員剛剛所提到的是未來只要獨駕他的罰則我們從三萬跟一萬五提高到 |
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12萬跟9萬12萬跟9萬開車12萬啦騎機車9萬起跳那委員在講的說如果他累犯其實我目前觀察累犯的機率超過20%到30%的機率非常非常高數字是26%啦對非常非常的高累犯累犯的部分第一我們罰則無上限累加上去 |
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第二因為他只要犯了一次他必然就是無照無照繼續開車他的罰則我們也會加重不會像一般的無照駕駛他會加的更重這個部分我們會加到三萬六一般的民眾可能無照是一萬二他就是三萬六這個部分我們會強制來做那另外針對大家在關心的這個 |
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吊扣車輛的部分沒入車輛的部分我們現在也在做這方面的研議我們希望未來只要你做獨駕的動作不管你是不是車主我們的車輛直接就做沒入的動作那另外針對乘客的共同責任你明知駕駛在獨駕了你還坐著他的車你還讓他繼續獨駕那你也必須負共同責任這個部分乘客要罰一萬五 |
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那這些的修法我們會要求我們部裡面在這個月底之前我希望再更快我希望再更快在月底之前能夠送到行政院讓行政院通過之後再送交立法院好 月底啦送院會審查啦是好那我請高鐵董事長 |
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董事長好 是5月25號今天我們要討論的主題高鐵發生了大概最嚴重的一次污點事件那一天我剛好人也在車上我是6點38分台南站上車到車站的時候完全沒有不知道發生什麼事完全就正常就對了我上車坐了一半大概坐了可能到達台中吧 |
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開了車子就停了 過台東就停了然後走走停停他才廣播說車輛有異常到台北已經9點20了大概5點 原本是8點04分要到台北結果到差不多9點20幾分才到了大概5點了一個多小時 |
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但是交通的系統 當然沒有人敢保證不會出狀況不管你是陸運 空運 海運 那高鐵也是啦那重點就是 那你平常要演練 如果出了狀況 那要怎麼來處理你剛剛說你4點還沒發車以前就知道啦 對不對但是我是6點38上車的時候都還正常啊 |
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我到台北 高鐵 那個時候我就看你們的APP完全沒有寫啊你知道吧 其實很多人都是使用高鐵的T-express訂車啊它上面一直到九點 它才說部分列車延誤實際上你全部都停掉了 全部都停了啊但你這個網頁沒有改 |
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像我第一時間我是去看你這個部分你的APP寫的是部分列車延誤實際上已經完全更換班表了這個你應該要寫清楚還有就是你那個臨機的應變你看這幾天在網路上就很多使用高鐵我們的乘客罵翻天到車站很多到車站 車站也沒有告示牌車站也沒有到月台也都不知道 |
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只是後來有聽到廣播啦但實際上他現在也不知道發生什麼事情所以像這樣的應變措施啦我想高鐵這次平常有沒有在演練啦你們平常有沒有演練如果車輛搬置延誤的時候那大概要怎麼有一個緊急應變來 董事長 |
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好 謝謝委員 現在委員的這個提醒我們會繼續檢討不過我會請同仁準備好相關的資料就是我們相關APP及簡訊什麼時間推播 推播什麼內容我想這個都可以佐證不過我想特別跟委員說明事實上這個從事發的5點38分成立緊急應變中心到7點半決定8點開始改成替代班表當中其實是有經過搶修的過程這個搶修過程才能夠使得有 |
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一小時三班能夠實施如果搶修的過程沒有進度事實上是必須停止啦所以他確實是有一個當時在時間上確實是一個非常緊急急難的狀況其實特別跟委員說明不是你要讓車上的旅客大概有知道什麼事情才能採取應變嘛比如說我那一天我要主持審查預算你如果讓我知道說喔喔這個高鐵絕對會拖很久 |
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我就可以請其他委員或者是我來通知我們委員會的同仁大家看怎麼處理我也不曉得發生什麼事情因為我想我如果8點04分到9點開會也許因為我不知道可以5點多少如果我知道這麼嚴重我就可以提早來做一些應變我相信很急 |
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每一個旅客在車上都有相當相同的這種心情所以說請高鐵這個未來的類似我們不敢說不會發生啦但盡量不要發生啦如果有發生應該就要有一套的應變措施好不好 |
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謝謝我想剛剛在我的報告裡面把這個資訊系統以及即時資訊的特定化尤其是你的APP啦這個是我的我們都會看你的APP是對不對你上面上面上面根本沒有寫啊好謝謝我想我還寫什麼部分列車延誤好我想我們會把這個資訊調出來謝謝好謝謝主席謝謝委員 |
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林委員俊憲 |
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謝謝主席。 |
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本席邀請交通部陳部長。 |
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主席 |
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請陳部長。 |
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陳部長世凱 |
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委員好。 |
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林委員俊憲 |
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部長好。 |
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這幾天大家都在關心毒駕的問題，交通部也表示要修改道交條例的相關處罰。 |
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對於毒駕，現在民怨高漲！ |
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林委員俊憲 |
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確實，毒駕造成社會、尤其是交通安全上一個很大的危害，幾個數字給部長參考。是。 |
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林委員俊憲 |
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毒駕發生的件數，如果是達到刑法的程度，即已經吸毒吸到不能安全駕駛者以刑法來移送，你看最近幾年的件數，從315件、2,619件，接下來就到8,659件，到今年大概會到1萬4,000件，大概短短三、四年就增加了四十幾倍。 |
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如果是按道交條例被開單的，這還是有抓到的毒駕件數，我們來看：2023（112）年是910件；2024年2,189件；2025年就到1萬1,000件，三年內增加十二倍。 |
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從910、2,189到1萬1,000件！是。 |
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林委員俊憲 |
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我要請部長注意看累犯的件數。 |
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林委員俊憲 |
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前面是整體件數增加十二倍，至於累犯的件數，也就是曾經毒駕，然後再次毒駕，這種累犯的件數竟然增加了十八倍，一而再、再而三吸毒後開車！ |
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林委員俊憲 |
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毒駕累犯件數112年是163件；2024年471件，去年將近三千件，2,947件。 |
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林委員俊憲 |
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可見當中有些是毒駕的累犯，這種人不能讓他再上路，也沒有資格再繼續駕駛！ |
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未來修法時，交通部除了提高罰責以外……國外對於毒駕，因為全世界都面臨這樣的問題，畢竟毒品不斷在變化，取得、吸食都更容易。 |
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2026-06-04T09:49:34.611000+08:00 |
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以喪屍煙彈來說，因為單獨吸食很麻煩，所以聽說就混在電子煙裡面，又因為方便吸食，在年輕人之間就變得很普遍。 |
| transcript.gazette[16].quality |
0.723 |
| transcript.gazette[17].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[17].start |
2026-06-04T09:49:36.372000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[17].end |
2026-06-04T09:49:48.302000+08:00 |
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前幾天有一個案例，駕駛毒駕，開的還是瓦斯車，而且整車都載瓦斯，吸毒後去載瓦斯，這多危險啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[17].quality |
0.615 |
| transcript.gazette[18].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[18].start |
2026-06-04T09:49:49.163000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[18].end |
2026-06-04T09:49:55.668000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[18].text |
因此，除了提高罰金以外，也要吊銷駕照、沒收車輛。 |
| transcript.gazette[18].quality |
0.65 |
| transcript.gazette[19].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[19].start |
2026-06-04T09:49:57.437000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[19].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:06.403000+08:00 |
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請教部長，針對毒駕，未來道交條例的修法方向及時間，交通部目前有沒有相關的想法或草案？ |
| transcript.gazette[19].quality |
0.895 |
| transcript.gazette[20].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[20].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:07.023000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[20].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:15.468000+08:00 |
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報告委員，這段時間大家都相當在意這件事，尤其委員們都非常在意，所以交通部也加緊腳步。 |
| transcript.gazette[20].quality |
0.816 |
| transcript.gazette[21].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[21].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:16.229000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[21].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:25.573000+08:00 |
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針對這件事情，法務部、內政部、交通部及衛福部幾個部門大家一起合作，正在做整體的研修。 |
| transcript.gazette[21].quality |
0.973 |
| transcript.gazette[22].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[22].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:26.713000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[22].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:32.995000+08:00 |
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其中，刑罰部分當然是法務部負責，我們尊重法務部權責；執法部分是內政部警政署，我們也尊重他們的權責。 |
| transcript.gazette[22].quality |
0.909 |
| transcript.gazette[23].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[23].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:33.876000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[23].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:37.817000+08:00 |
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至於監理層面，也就是委員剛剛所關心的部分，是交通部的責任，是我們該做的。 |
| transcript.gazette[23].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[24].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[24].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:38.897000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[24].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:51.783000+08:00 |
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目前有幾個方向，委員剛剛提到，未來只要毒駕，罰責從三萬跟一萬五，提高到十二萬跟九萬…… |
| transcript.gazette[24].quality |
0.784 |
| transcript.gazette[25].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[25].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:51.783000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[25].end |
2026-06-04T09:50:52.403000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[25].text |
開車十二萬，騎機車九萬起跳。對！ |
| transcript.gazette[25].quality |
0.692 |
| transcript.gazette[26].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[26].start |
2026-06-04T09:50:53.404000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[26].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[26].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:01.989000+08:00 |
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委員講到如果是累犯的話，以我目前的觀察來說，累犯機率超過20%，甚至到30%，機率非常、非常高…… |
| transcript.gazette[26].quality |
0.737 |
| transcript.gazette[27].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[27].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:02.109000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[27].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[27].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:02.589000+08:00 |
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我的數字是26%…… |
| transcript.gazette[27].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[28].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[28].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:06.351000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[28].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[28].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:18.518000+08:00 |
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第一，罰責無上限，累加上去；第二，因為只要犯了一次之後必然就是無照，無照繼續開車的罰責我們也會加重，不會像一般的無照駕駛，這裡會加得更重。 |
| transcript.gazette[28].quality |
0.885 |
| transcript.gazette[29].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[29].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:19.418000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[29].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:26.762000+08:00 |
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這部分我們會加到三萬六，一般民眾無照是一萬二，他就是三萬六，這部分我們會強制來做。 |
| transcript.gazette[29].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[30].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[30].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:27.142000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[30].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[30].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:35.386000+08:00 |
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另外，針對大家關心的吊扣車輛、沒入車輛的部分，我們現在也在做這方面的研議。 |
| transcript.gazette[30].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[31].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[31].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:36.006000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[31].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[31].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:42.309000+08:00 |
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未來只要是毒駕，不管是不是車主，車輛就是直接沒入。 |
| transcript.gazette[31].quality |
0.818 |
| transcript.gazette[32].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[32].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:44.130000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[32].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[32].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:49.572000+08:00 |
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至於乘客的共同責任，明知駕駛在毒駕了，你還坐他的車？ |
| transcript.gazette[32].quality |
0.87 |
| transcript.gazette[33].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[33].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:49.572000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[33].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:51.013000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[33].text |
你還讓他繼續毒駕？ |
| transcript.gazette[33].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[34].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[34].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:51.313000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[34].end |
2026-06-04T09:51:54.375000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[34].text |
所以也必須負共同責任，這部分乘客要罰一萬五。 |
| transcript.gazette[34].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[35].speaker |
陳部長世凱：非常、非常高。針對累犯 |
| transcript.gazette[35].start |
2026-06-04T09:51:55.695000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[35].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[35].end |
2026-06-04T09:52:06.402000+08:00 |
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針對這些修法，我們會要求部裡面在這個月底之前……我希望能再更快，在月底之前能送到行政院，讓行政院通過之後再送交立法院。 |
| transcript.gazette[35].quality |
0.943 |
| transcript.gazette[36].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[36].start |
2026-06-04T09:52:06.982000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[36].end |
2026-06-04T09:52:09.364000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[36].text |
月底送院會審查？是。 |
| transcript.gazette[36].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[37].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[37].start |
2026-06-04T09:52:10.664000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[37].end |
2026-06-04T09:52:10.905000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[37].text |
接下來請高鐵董事長。 |
| transcript.gazette[37].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[38].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[38].start |
2026-06-04T09:52:19.050000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[38].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[38].end |
2026-06-04T09:52:28.794000+08:00 |
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董事長好，5月25號的事就是今天我們要討論的主題，高鐵發生了最嚴重的一次誤點事件！ |
| transcript.gazette[38].quality |
0.857 |
| transcript.gazette[39].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[39].start |
2026-06-04T09:52:31.215000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[39].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[39].end |
2026-06-04T09:52:55.313000+08:00 |
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那天我剛好人也在車上，我是6點38分從臺南站上車，到車站時完全正常，我上車坐了一半，大概到臺中吧，車子就停了，過臺中就停了，然後走走停停，有廣播說車輛有異常。 |
| transcript.gazette[39].quality |
0.955 |
| transcript.gazette[40].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[40].start |
2026-06-04T09:52:57.535000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[40].end |
2026-06-04T09:53:06.263000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[40].text |
到臺北已經9點20分，原本是8點4分要到臺北，結果9點20幾分才到，誤點了一個多小時。 |
| transcript.gazette[40].quality |
0.935 |
| transcript.gazette[41].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[41].start |
2026-06-04T09:53:09.966000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[41].end |
2026-06-04T09:53:18.713000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[41].text |
交通系統沒有人敢保證不會出狀況，不管陸運、空運、海運，所以高鐵也是。 |
| transcript.gazette[41].quality |
0.931 |
| transcript.gazette[42].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[42].start |
2026-06-04T09:53:19.594000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[42].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[42].end |
2026-06-04T09:53:23.978000+08:00 |
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重點在於平常要演練，看一旦出了狀況時要怎麼處理。 |
| transcript.gazette[42].quality |
0.727 |
| transcript.gazette[43].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[43].start |
2026-06-04T09:53:24.839000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[43].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[43].end |
2026-06-04T09:53:30.524000+08:00 |
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你剛剛說還沒發車以前，就是4點就知道了，對不對？ |
| transcript.gazette[43].quality |
0.8 |
| transcript.gazette[44].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[44].start |
2026-06-04T09:53:30.524000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[44].end |
2026-06-04T09:53:44.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[44].text |
但我6點38分上車時都還正常，我到臺北時有看你們的app，上面完全沒有寫，你知道嗎？ |
| transcript.gazette[44].quality |
0.771 |
| transcript.gazette[45].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[45].start |
2026-06-04T09:53:45.260000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[45].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:01.794000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[45].text |
很多人都使用高鐵的T-Express訂票，上面一直到9點才說部分列車延誤，實際上是全部都停掉了，可是網頁沒有改。 |
| transcript.gazette[45].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[46].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[46].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:04.134000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[46].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:11.957000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[46].text |
我第一時間是看這個，尤其app寫的是部分列車延誤，不過實際上班表已經完全更換了，所以這個應該要寫清楚。 |
| transcript.gazette[46].quality |
0.766 |
| transcript.gazette[47].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[47].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:13.958000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[47].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[47].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:32.386000+08:00 |
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還有，你們的臨機應變，這幾天在網路上有很多使用高鐵的乘客罵翻天，很多人到車站後發現車站沒有告示牌，即使到月臺也什麼都不知道。 |
| transcript.gazette[47].quality |
0.772 |
| transcript.gazette[48].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[48].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:34.944000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[48].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:45.231000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[48].text |
後來雖然有聽到廣播，不過實際上大家並不知道發生什麼事情，像這些應變措施，我想高鐵這次……平常有沒有在演練？ |
| transcript.gazette[48].quality |
0.83 |
| transcript.gazette[49].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[49].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:45.391000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[49].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:46.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[49].text |
你們平常有沒有演練？ |
| transcript.gazette[49].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[50].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[50].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:46.292000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[50].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:51.795000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[50].text |
如果車輛班次延誤時，大概會有一個怎麼樣的緊急應變，董事長？ |
| transcript.gazette[50].quality |
0.731 |
| transcript.gazette[51].speaker |
史董事長哲 |
| transcript.gazette[51].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:53.741000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[51].end |
2026-06-04T09:54:54.001000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[51].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[51].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[52].speaker |
史董事長哲 |
| transcript.gazette[52].start |
2026-06-04T09:54:54.162000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[52].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[52].end |
2026-06-04T09:55:04.467000+08:00 |
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委員的提醒我們會繼續檢討，我會請同仁準備好相關資料，也就是app及簡訊，包括什麼時間推播、推播什麼內容，我想這些都可以佐證。 |
| transcript.gazette[52].quality |
0.875 |
| transcript.gazette[53].speaker |
史董事長哲 |
| transcript.gazette[53].start |
2026-06-04T09:55:04.467000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[53].end |
2026-06-04T09:55:32.140000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[53].text |
不過我想特別跟委員說明，事實上，從事發的5點38分成立緊急應變中心，到7點半決定8點開始改成替代班表這個過程當中，其實是有經過搶修的過程，因為這個搶修過程才使得一小時三班能夠實施，如果搶修的過程沒有進度，事實上是必須停駛的，所以它當時在時間上確實是一個非常緊急、急難的狀況。 |
| transcript.gazette[53].quality |
0.926 |
| transcript.gazette[54].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[54].start |
2026-06-04T09:55:33.581000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[54].end |
2026-06-04T09:55:40.723000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[54].text |
不是，你要讓車上的旅客知道發生什麼事情，才能採取應變。是。 |
| transcript.gazette[54].quality |
0.88 |
| transcript.gazette[55].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[55].start |
2026-06-04T09:55:41.544000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[55].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[55].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:10.732000+08:00 |
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比如我那一天要主持審查預算，你如果讓我知道高鐵絕對會拖很久，我就可以請其他委員代為主持或通知委員會同仁看怎麼處理，但是我不曉得發生什麼事情，我想如果我8點4分到，9點開會，也許……但我不知道會誤點多久，如果我知道這麼嚴重，我就可以提早來做一些應變。 |
| transcript.gazette[55].quality |
0.9 |
| transcript.gazette[56].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
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2026-06-04T09:56:10.732000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[56].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:16.427000+08:00 |
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我相信很急，每個旅客在車上都有相同的心情。 |
| transcript.gazette[56].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[57].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[57].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:17.349000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[57].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:28.041000+08:00 |
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所以未來如果發生類似的……我們不敢說不會發生啦，儘量不要發生，如果有發生，高鐵應該要有一套的應變措施，好不好？ |
| transcript.gazette[57].quality |
0.833 |
| transcript.gazette[58].speaker |
史董事長哲 |
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2026-06-04T09:56:28.782000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[58].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:31.965000+08:00 |
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是，謝謝，我想剛剛在我的報告裡面提到，資訊系統及即時資訊的透明化是我的檢討重點之一。 |
| transcript.gazette[58].quality |
0.632 |
| transcript.gazette[59].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[59].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:32.645000+08:00 |
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2026-06-04T09:56:38.229000+08:00 |
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尤其是你的app啦，我們都會看你的app，可是當天上面根本沒有寫啊！ |
| transcript.gazette[59].quality |
0.71 |
| transcript.gazette[60].speaker |
史董事長哲 |
| transcript.gazette[60].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:38.790000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[60].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:39.170000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[60].text |
好，謝謝，我想我把資料…… |
| transcript.gazette[60].quality |
0.667 |
| transcript.gazette[61].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[61].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:39.550000+08:00 |
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2026-06-04T09:56:41.512000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[61].text |
還寫部分列車延誤。 |
| transcript.gazette[61].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[62].speaker |
史董事長哲 |
| transcript.gazette[62].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:41.512000+08:00 |
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| transcript.gazette[62].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:42.232000+08:00 |
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好，我想我會把這個資訊調出來，謝謝。 |
| transcript.gazette[62].quality |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[63].speaker |
林委員俊憲 |
| transcript.gazette[63].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:42.232000+08:00 |
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2026-06-04T09:56:42.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[63].text |
好，謝謝，謝謝主席，謝謝部長。 |
| transcript.gazette[63].quality |
0.636 |
| transcript.gazette[64].speaker |
陳部長世凱 |
| transcript.gazette[64].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:42.592000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].guessed |
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| transcript.gazette[64].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:42.612000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[64].text |
謝謝委員。 |
| transcript.gazette[64].quality |
0.5 |
| transcript.gazette[65].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[65].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:43.112000+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[65].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:47.683429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[65].text |
謝謝林俊憲委員，謝謝部長，謝謝董事長。 |
| transcript.gazette[65].quality |
0 |
| transcript.gazette[66].speaker |
主席 |
| transcript.gazette[66].start |
2026-06-04T09:56:47.983429+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].guessed |
1 |
| transcript.gazette[66].end |
2026-06-04T09:56:51.126286+08:00 |
| transcript.gazette[66].text |
接下來請魯明哲委員發言。 |
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0 |